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This thread would have been locked by now but it is obvious the moderators have folded into peer pressure and let the the rhetoric rants run their due course
HEATFan is a very respected member here and has established a lot of credibility amongst other community members. You used to be quite a respected member as well, Razorspyne, but you have lost a huge amount of that - along with your credibility - in recent times due to your glaring inability to employ reason and logic, and engaging in a campaign of personal attacks of people who spend up to 18 hours a day here helping this community.
Your childish attempt at discrediting HEATFan is not doing your credibility any favours at all.
Libertas
This is TOTALLY uncalled for and totally WRONG. You are just a mod...get off your high horse. Don't act like the forums are the road! And you saying he has lost respect or credibility in the recent times....LOL..you mean the recent time she has called you out?? And talking about calling the Kettle black??? Personal attacks!! And saying he USED to be a respected member WTF...HE IS STILL A RESPECTED MEMBER!! And has not lost a HUGE amount of anything...and who is their person spending 18 hours?? YOU? How you even dragged Heatfan into this and try and pit them against each other is ludicrous. And I am sorry Heat...as I wish I was not even saying your name...an I am by no means saying ANYTHING about you...but this was so out of line. I know that forums mods are not shit...I also know that Heatfan REALLY WANTS TO BE ONE!!! I think he should get his chance..when you resign..you clearly have LOST it and you have shown you can not be impartial. This was so uncalled for..and actually flat out wrong. Who other then you,heatfan(assuming) and scout..that actually said he is totally embarrassed but at the same time has your back...so oth r then you 3....who is everyone he lost his cred with??? Name names if you are going to make a stupid statement! He has not lost any with me! And I have all the CRED in the world on the big boy site! You know...the real site that every single person here is a part of..but less then 10% of them are a part of this!!
Lets be honest...the forums have 120 people on average... and the main site has 1200+ vendors..and 10000 active members!! Including all of us..and the real cred...the real deal..is over there NOT here!! That is a fact. This only exists for Silk Road. NOTHING ELSE. And for you to say something that is your personal opinion and has no weight at all and NOTHING TO back it up...is HORSE SHIT! And as I am the first to say most things...you need to quit! You can not do your job. And you are taking it way too serious. Locking threads..making statements that are not true...and going around acting as if you ave not made a mistake. Yet you locked threads because the OP asked you to!!!
I agree with scout...this is EMBARRASSING. And I also 100% agree with Princess HIGH. And I would like to know the password to the secret place where all you big timers inhere meet and talk about who is in and who is out.
It is so sad it came to this..and the forums should be locked! BY DPR,
First, i guess i want to say that i came here looking for medicine for my wife.
We accomplished what we set out to do. As some of you know my wife has passed recently,
She grew to talk about alot of you before she passed.
Amazing person she was. I was born in 1935, i met my wife at the rivers swimming hole when we were 12,
we've been together ever since...oh that's neither here nor there.
My wife left me a msg in her dresser drawer, asking me to help these people named in the letter.
Now that i am doing that, i feel pulled towards the Road.
Since my Wife has been gone, you all Have Become my Family.
Some more than others LOL
But all in all Every one of you (Hugs)
I'm on a Mission set before me by my Wife. See ya'll on the Road, Fam!!
Peace & Hugs,
ChemCat
You really, really are, and I sincerely hope that you remain an active poster with us for many years to come!You said I lost my credibility.... yeah sorry, that is personal. You are not here to give your opinion of who is "respected" or not respected, and you have evidently no freaking clue on that score as rape is not considered not respectable.
Libertas I do not understand what is going on here, you lock Raz's thread because of personal attacks then you have posted a personal attack on Raz, which may I add is very unprofessional and undiplomatic, not moderator qualities, a moderator is supposed to remain neutral, all you have done is ganged up with HeatFAN on a forum member who I and I am sure many other members still respect, if not even more so now because he has stood up for issues he believes in and allowed for a debate which you swiftly denied. I am with RxKing locking threads left, right and center is wrong and goes against the 'freedom of speech' which is supposed to be at the heart of what this forum stands for. What's wrong with the points Raz has raised? They are perfectly valid, why not stop trying to discredit him and do your job and investigate the issues at hand.
This thread has CLEARLY gotten out of control! MAC Ruined Christmas and Kunis's asshole. There is talk of octerpuss cock. There is a huge rift between members for absolutely no reason for over something as ridiculous and innocuous as Mac Ruining Christmas, Scout not returning PMs, Heatfan not having a high enough thread count, razorspyne is getting attacked for no reason really, RxKing is quit as usual, P2P is 100% correct! and JacknOff as usual is flirting with Lim and so is scout!
I know with out a shadow of a doubt...that you LOB...want this fucking thread G O N E!!!! and if this was 4 days ago this would be like Alcatraz...LOCKED 100% and I think you would actually get support to lock this thread!! that's the funny part.
You really think mods PM'ing shit about me isn't going to get back to me? Are you an embecile? And you really think 24 hours of you talking crap on the forums is going to change what I have done to this community over the past 7 months is not going to be vaporized over some hatred of yours? Grow up.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Let me guess, you're going to lock this thread now?
Well from your last post Lib, you seem like you have really lost it. The personal attacks are indicative that you can't think of something intelligent to say or moderate effectively, it is a shame you have changed since the first day. Embarassing? Reason I was asking if I intimidated you was that, as soon as something intelligent is brought up you lock the thread. It seems I have gotten a few knickers in a twist with my logic and you can't deal with it so you lock it. Why do you have to make things personal and vitriolic? I am a respected member despite your opinions, and have helped out more than most. If you can refer to me as a madman than perhaps you are not as capable of assessing forum members as you seem to think. In fact, what are you even doing on this thread?
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
This whole thing has spun out of control over mods being personal and not doing their jobs. This has just got petty, and nasty, and if mods are going to victimise innocent forum member than their mod positions should be stripped and their accounts banned.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
You are not an innocent forum member. You have been attacking the mods on a personal level, constantly spewing your hatred for the last few days. I even PMed you about this, asking you to basically do the same thing Libertas just said in less words. Grow up dude. No mods are going around giving you 18 negs for their fun and pleasure. You think they are enjoying having to constantly come here and defend themselves against you? Do you think that gets them off or something?
Jesus fucking christ man, drop it. YOU ARE WRONG!!! That cannot be stressed enough. Fucking unbelievable that this is still going on and I hope you know I am not the only person losing respect for you.
Um, sorry but you are not a respected forum member HEATFan, last time I checked you were condoning rape and you say you don't respect me? Work on your post count, and try to help out the newbies and othe forum members like I have. Oh, and didn;t you just troll someone in the tech section?
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Do you mods do anything besides hurling personal insults and refusing to answer questions? Do I intimidate you?
I would like to know why you were selected to mod. I haven't actually seen anything from you yet except abuse and personal attacks. Why are you even ON this forum?
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
I applaud your values, it is some time since we have have a mod that actually answers questions regardless of who asked them. (+K). In fact, I am sure that this post will either be deleted for simply posting something that is actually from the perspective of a long time vet (no, I did NOT join in December by the way, some of us gave been here longer than the registration date.) I have tried to help out as much as I can, but sometimes helping out can threaten people. (I have a lot of sympathy for microRNA (former mod), they, and a lot of others, had the same issue.) To be honest I try to avoid any trouble on the forums by placing people in Iggy where I am absolutely forced to, but it is sometimes not so easy.
I wish you well in your moderating and hope that you are given some respect here on the forums as, unlike others around here, from your posts you are an overdue breath of fresh air, and actually deserve some respect for your efforts..
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
so yeah.. I mean if I was interested in growing (i know there are dedicated places like rollitup etc) how helpful would the community be to discussing set up and method of growing? what about manufacture of substances? any chemists on here LOL
Basically I'm wondering how open and friendly the community is to discussing these things and putting the info out there.
@ Jack N Hoff: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=162935.0
samesame locked it on a very weak reasoning, I'll let you be the judge. Not that you helped yourself InfiniteSource with what you said, still though, how can anything be discussed if mods are locking threads left, right and centre. Every single thread I posted on today -- up to a point -- was locked with extremely weak reasoning I just didn't buy.
@ InfinateSource: Why have admin and the mods become so personal lately? Those messages are just personal and not professionally neutral at all. I am not sure why they have become unfriendly as of late.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
I agree 100%.
If you want to battle misinformation you do not do it by locking threads. Discussion is key and the truth will come out in the wash. Every time I see a locked thread I get a little more saddened about the direction these forums are headed.
I do not believe DPR has given the mods strict guidelines as to what they can and can't lock/remove. Who is steering the ship if everyone gets to have their hand on the helm?
Those messages from support were not professional at all. Very disheartening. Clearly they weren't written by DPR - he/she would never speak that way.
Thank you for raising a pertinent point (+K)
These are the threads that were locked as soon as I posted:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=160934.0 The Score On Negging on Silk Road forums
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=166679.0 Negative Karma? -14 Karma's overnight? What did I say?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=165534.0 negative Karma
The reasoning for all three were baseless and weak. This was locked recently with comparative weak reasoning from samesame:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=162935.0 People who FE'd for InfiniteSource look here
I don’t know what Libertas is going on about what a free forum this is when all four threads were locked on personal reasons. The reasoning for all four is weak, and not very convincing. It is not up for mods to lock a thread where they have taken exception to, wait 5 minutes to think of something half convincing, post it to have the final say in the matter, and then re-lock it. I can understand if it were for tech section, but this is just personal feelings brought into moderating and it is very very derisive for the community to see them acting this way.
samesame made himself look like an idiot in the first thread. Thread was locked. (He also derailed the thread, made personal attacks, I called him for it, and he couldn’t handle my replies b/c he said his “head hurt”. The thread was locked with a bullshit reason by Libertas.)
The second and third links were threads locked for a mod’s personal feelings on the issue, without leaving me an opportunity to respond, and the fourth was InfiniteSource’s thread that was locked when StExo asked a pertinent question they didn’t like. The reason by samesame was that it “simply didn’t to be up anymore”, which simply dumb.
I’ve also noticed that every single person who replied with something to do with free speech on the forums, or mods locking every thread in sight, has been negged. I have been watching this thread unfold and PrincessHIGH, RxKing, and farmer1 have been negged as soon as they posted. Hmm. Let me guess, you are going to once again chalk that up to “wild coincidence” just like the time PrincessHIGH was negged 18 times immediately after posting on my thread, 14 times in 30 seconds and then 4 more times within the hour.
Explain to me how this is a free forum when every time something is written a mod has personal issues over, the thread is locked with them having the last say, and the poster getting negged? And no more bullshit replies about FUD and disinformation, b/c I have had a stomach full this week of samesame’s hidden and unstoppable Illuminati shill army from one freaking account, sorry it is embarrassing when you think about.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
So that's means there will NEVER be a locked thread..because I have never seen a valid pressing reason fro doing so. And can you please unlock the thread about negging?AS CLEARLY there was never a valid pressing reason to lock it?
And can you please give us...the community... an example of a valid pressing reason for doing so?
I am locking this thread as it is no longer discussing "The Score On Negging on Silk Road forums"; instead it has devolved into personal attacks and childish insults from all parties and has been sent completely off topic as a result. This is causing a massive rift in this community, setting users against each other and slowly eating away at the bonds that we've all built with each other. We're all on the same damn side here. We need to stop fighting amongst ourselves and start directing our vitriol where it is most deserved and most needed.
If any of you have an issue with my locking this, you are of course free to PM me about it.
Libertas
Your a fucking liar. FIND THAT POST! Post it! Come on libatard! Do it! And don't you dare post anything I said AFTER I was banned.
I am being railroaded! By you! You are in constant contact with the mod team over at the main site. Do you fucking job and make sure justice is done! Put aside personal feelings for a second god damn it, I am a innocent man! This is a communist market! HEIL LIBATARD! HEIL DPR
Lib...your defense of everything gives the impression that I am against you...I am not..I am just against locking ANY THREAD. As DPR has never locked a thread unless it is completely outdated... And I guess we will wait for his opinion and see if after he chimes in if you will still have your "scout and i can lock any thread we want if we think it needs to be" I HIGHLY doubt that is going to be a true statement in the next 24 hours..
But my post is not against you or scout at all...and I do not want it to look like that. I am deleting it.. I hate this us against you mentality...I was a mod...and I know you have a tough job. And I was not trying to call you out though it looks like that.
I am only against LIARS and SCAMMERS!!! PERIOD>NOT MODS!
Quick question. All evidence supposedly was in a privnote. How did ANYONE see the evidence? What would have stopped a scamming user from making the note themselves? You took them on their word? Privnote is destroyed on first click. I demand to see cold hard facts instead of rude, personal insults. I had a 100% rating with 77 sales the day I was banned. Not one complaint until two addicts decided they needed free product. Told you I sent a privnot saying I was going to set up a bust, and you took them on that? Never even fucking asked me?
Im telling you right now, I have never threaten anyone with police force. I sent personal details via priv note and that is all. I was taken advantage of and you all helped.
Its apparent I was suspended by someone that allowed personal feelings to help decided my fate. I demand a review by a impartial, competent person without emotional attachment.
InfiniteSource / MindBlower, you admitted to me that you threatened the member in question, stating that you didn't mean what you said and only did it to scare them. PrivNote "evidence" was not needed.
Libertas
False. Go back. I said I was going to call the manager of that postal office and speak to him about a misplaced package. Mention of LE was NEVER brought up.
Wait, wait, wait. I was banned because of your misunderstanding? I never once said I was going to contact the police. I was simply going to ask about a package. In reality I never would have, but it made the buyer fess and and claim they had "just found" the package. I demand to be reinstated immediately. Am I a asshole? Can't deny it. I'm also a damn good vendor who was wrongfully suspended.
Quick question. All evidence supposedly was in a privnote. How did ANYONE see the evidence? What would have stopped a scamming user from making the note themselves? You took them on their word? Privnote is destroyed on first click. I demand to see cold hard facts instead of rude, personal insults. I had a 100% rating with 77 sales the day I was banned. Not one complaint until two addicts decided they needed free product. Told you I sent a privnot saying I was going to set up a bust, and you took them on that? Never even fucking asked me?
Im telling you right now, I have never threaten anyone with police force. I sent personal details via priv note and that is all. I was taken advantage of and you all helped.
Its apparent I was suspended by someone that allowed personal feelings to help decided my fate. I demand a review by a impartial, competent person without emotional attachment.
