I agree! Oh you said deftly I thought you said daftly, never mind. I don't understand why you think humans, with our great intellects, should base our social structures on fucking apes, lol. I think when you first became a libertarian it was after reading the fountain head, and now you have just read Tarzan and changed your mind. Seriously, apes fling their shit around and have sex with infants, do you really think we should use them as a basis of how to arrange our social structures? There is no legitimacy at all to the claim "Apes are not organized as libertarians, and therefore humans should not be!" , and using that as your arguement just seems absurd.