Guy certainly has some mental issues, and given that he solicited for a child to be abducted he probably is not just fantasizer. There is actually some evidence that people with the sickest fantasies are the least likely to act on them, and there are several examples of cases sort of similar to this where people were discussing very sick shit as well, and even talking about things they had done like this, and it turned out that none of them had actually done shit and it was all fantasy. That is actually a pretty common theme with the most sick sounding people, the people who say they butchered and ate kids are very unlikely to actually have done so. Of course, if they actually solicit for a kid to be kidnapped and butchered etc, it might be a different story. I don't know, I don't justify what this guy did at all, but it is true that they find the most sick sounding people are often in fantasy and not actually planning to do things. But at the same time once he solicited a child to be kidnapped, he crossed the line as a child could really be kidnapped at his request. This guy is a bit extreme too, he actually built a dungeon and solicited someone to kidnap a child for him, so in his case it was probably not just fantasy, which is extremely disturbing. Pretty fucking disturbed individual without doubt, and that CP they were trading sounds like the worst ever. Even most of the extreme CP would not reach that level, it is not at all common and what they had is pretty certainly the worst of the worst. I think this is probably linked to the Violent Desires hidden service that got taken down by the Dutch police. I think it was considered the worst of all of the CP sites ever to exist, in terms of the violence depicted and the conversations of the people. I think this was first Tor hidden service related to CP to be busted, with pedoforum after it and then all the FH ones. Violent Desires was probably the worst of all. Really this guy obviously deserves to go to jail for the rest of his life considering he solicited help in abducting a child. I am shocked they are only trying to get him 27 years! He almost certainly had enough CP to get a life sentence, since every picture can be its own charge, and any jury would put this guy away. But I still do not think it is the pictures he had that should put him away, but his solicitation of a child. It is hard to argue for the freedom of people to look at such images, they are the worst images you could imagine. People looking at jailbait it doesn't bother me at all (nor would it bother me in many cases if they actually had sex with young teenagers), even people looking at a lot of younger CP doesn't really bother me (though they should not have sex with young children). CP like this actually causes an emotional reaction in me, and I have to wonder if somebody is into this are they really sane enough to be trusted outside of prison? But I still look past this emotional response, and use my sense of morality and logic. A picture of a severely abused child is not a severely abused child, many people who are into such images can keep their fantasies compartmentalized, there is no proof that people looking at such pictures causes children to be harmed, and it is magical thinking to think that viewing the picture causes the depicted child to be harmed again. I still do not think such image should be censored, because we need to have freedom of information we cannot have censorship no matter how disturbing the things some people enjoy looking at are. The same reason why I think it should be legal to look at jailbait or look at holocaust picture it holds for all information, and I cannot let an emotional feeling blind me to the immorality of censorship and prevent me from thinking in a rational way. Part of me can see the difference between someone who looks at an image like these guys were looking at and the people looking at other types of legal/illegal porn. Maybe something is much more wrong with this person than is wrong with someone who looks at softcore CP or jailbait, or even hardcore CP but not to such a totally extreme degree that it becomes cannibalistic snuff child porn. I am not sure. But maybe still people cannot control what they find sexually attractive, but can control themselves. Maybe these guys would have murdered a kid and ate the kid, but instead viewed images? I don't know. I do think it is fucked up FH admin going to prison for 100 years for hosting CP sites, and this guy is only facing under 30 years for trying to get somebody to kidnap a kid for him to eat. I think it is fucked up that CP laws put a person who looks at naked 15 year olds, something that is not really even an abnormal desire, in the same category as someone who looks at pictures of dead kids being cut into slabs of meat. But that is just at an emotional level. At a logical level, there is still a voice in my head telling me a picture is a picture, a picture of severe child abuse is not severe child abuse, a fantasy is not an action. But this person took it beyond a fantasy when he tried to get someone to kidnap a kid. So why is he only going to prison 27 years, when FH admin only hosted a site and did not try to get a child kidnapped to be murdered and eaten, and FH admin faces 100 years? This is the result of the emotional thinking, illogical laws. A person who solicits for a child to be killed so he can eat the child faces less time in prison than a person who hosted 1,000,000 or so CP images, because in the eyes of the emotional people the person who let 1000 people see 1,000,000 images of child abuse abused a child 1,000,000,000 times, and the person who tried to get a child to eat only planned to abuse one.