Hm didn't know any regular illegal forums that went back prior to 2004. I thought SL was pretty much the first forum since Hive and RCML. I heard about one forum that was operated by a very skilled chemist, but they didn't use the forum for much other than voting on what rare drug he should synth for them. Every six months they had a vote and he synthed a small batch of whatever rare drug people asked him to and sent out doses to everyone. I was never on that forum but I think it went back to before 2004. I left off a lot of forums for sure, pretty much the entire pharmaceutical oriented forums like CHFC OPR and all the other ones related to those hell I cannot even remember their names now. Of course there was also Farmers Market which is now busted, you should read about their history as well oz they go back many years as well. Was also BB but I cannot remember where that one fits in now. I don't think it matters if I spout off all the old market places I knew about or was a member on, but I can understand not wanting to. The thing is, all the forums I am talking about are so far gone that even if the DEA learns their names and histories they are not going to be able to do shit against them without a time machine. I specifically neglected to mention any forum that is currently running out of respect for their security. Also I have been using anonymity measures consistently for a lot of years now, and have changed my pseudonym and regular contacts so many times that even I cannot remember my old names anymore lol. If they can bust me because of something I have said they would have busted me a long time ago . Not to mention that I am now hardly involved with anything illegal at all, have a perfectly spotless house more often than not and am only a small time drug user now. Plz feel free to raid me feds, you will find only several thousand lines of source code on my computer . I determined quite a while ago that I am more valuable to the scene out of jail than in, and have acted accordingly since. Cannot get much better security than not breaking the law .