The culture of pedophiles online, lol. The people you are talking about make up maybe 1% of CP traders on the internet and probably 1% of that 1% ever actually produce anything. The overwhelming majority of people getting CP online do so on P2P networks with absolutely no social involvement with each other. Also many of the pedophile forums are totally legal because they don't allow uploading of images or videos, but they still network with each other and convince each other that pedophilia is normal. So you are doing nothing you claim to be doing by making it illegal to view CP, and all you are doing is pissing on peoples freedom to information and pretending that there is a real reason for this oppressive behavior. Yeah a large amount of CP comes from the bl/gl people (shockingly it is not almost all snuff and torture!). They make it for free. That is pretty much what I have said all along. If you split up the groups CP comes from it would look something like: Studios in Eastern Europe, BL/GL Pedophiles, Teenagers with camera phones, sadistic incestuous fathers. Some serial killers kill people just to follow the stories on the killing in the news paper. They get off on being the center of attention and keeping the entire city in fear. Should we therefore ban newspapers from publishing stories related to serial killers, in an attempt to take away such serial killers motivation? Or would doing that be a violation of freedom of speech? Is it really the newspapers fault that the serial killer kills people, can we really hold them responsible? you can be immersed in bl/gl culture without ever sharing or viewing CP there are pedophile forums that don't allow the sharing of illegal material. Also only a tiny tiny fraction of CP offenders have jack shit at all to do with bl/gl culture. Ah the same logic used against drug users. Bust the small time users because they are likely speaking to bigger dealers who are likely speaking to bigger dealers who are likely speaking to cartel members who kill innocent people. You know, the innocent people who get beheaded by the drug cartels? Put responsibility where it belongs and stop sacrificing human lives to meet your objectives, regardless of the fact that your objective of protecting kids is good it becomes bad as soon as you are willing to sacrifice harmless peoples lives to accomplish it. Or we could just lower the age of consent to an age where people start being sexually active, and only ban having sex with kids. Close in age laws are kind of fucking stupid. If a 15 year old can consent to have sex with a 17 year old there is absolutely no reason why they cannot consent to have sex with an 18 year old or a 80 year old. Once you are capable of giving consent to somebody you are capable of giving consent to anybody, if you are incapable of giving consent to somebody you are incapable of giving consent to anybody. Consent rests on the person giving it there is no dynamic change involved based upon who they are giving it to.