Firstly I am not talking about an IRL business owner, but am giving this as a thought experiment. However, if CP distribution was only legal via PIR, I do believe that business owners wishing to distribute CP would do so via PIR. Beg the question much? Me: "What if we had a system for distribution of CP where it is impossible for anyone to determine the demand" You: "No, I am against CP possession because the increased demand drives content creation!!" Me: "Yes yes but what if we make it absolutely impossible for anyone to determine the demand??" You: head explodes Also, no, pedophiles don't try to justify their behavior in such a way. They generally fall into one of two camps, the first camp being "Society is oppressing me just like they oppressed homosexuals (gay porn used to be illegal) and I am absolutely doing nothing wrong by viewing/possessing/distributing/producing CP and someday society will realize that we are just like gay people and accept us!" and the second camp being "I have little to no capacity to feel emotion and thus have no ability to empathize with the children I view being molested / molest, and additionally am incapable of feeling guilty for my actions, so why would I justify them". There is absolutely no denying the fact that digital child pornography files are nothing more or less than very large numbers. It is a simple fact. Very large numbers are subject to the rules of mathematics, and therefor it is completely correct to say that objectively speaking child pornography files are essentially widgets in a mathematical formula. Although it is not my best argument, I do like to point out that you essentially want to make it illegal for people to count too high. Also, you want to outlaw all numbers, because there is a mathematical formula for turning any given number into a CP file. You probably also think that random number generators should be outlawed because they can produce any possible CP file if they run for long enough, and additionally probably think that PI should be illegal because it probably contains a CP file somewhere in it if you go out far enough. btw: I am mostly kidding about the last few things I said you probably believe, although in a way I also am not kidding. Your original claim was that CP is not a widget in a math exercise, and I merely refuted your claim by saying that in all actuality CP files really are nothing more than widgets in a math exercise. I am against people paying for the production of child pornography because this action is intrinsically linked to paying for a child to be molested, which should be illegal. I am not against people paying for CP that has already been produced. I think producers of CP are criminals and should be treated harshly. Nope I have never run into trouble with the law, and I doubt that I ever do, particularly for CP, partially because of the fact that I am not interested in viewing any pornography that LE gives a fuck about, but primarily because I am quite skilled with computer security and anonymity. If the feds apprehend me for doing anything with a computer, it will be a ground breaking operation requiring much more sophisticated measures than they have ever demonstrated a capability of utilizing. And in the extremely unlikely even that they manage to locate me, they will have a hell of a time obtaining any incriminating evidence from me, or proving shit in court for that matter. Additionally, I stay pretty well posted on federal operations and their capabilities, so if they do start doing anything impressive I will be one of the first to know .