Sure there are plenty of idiots who are willing to pay for things they can get for free. The world is a large place and it would be foolish for me to think that there will not be thousands of people in it who are willing to pay for CP. I still maintain that they should not be treated as criminal unless it can be proven that they have knowingly and directly funded a child molester for the purpose of producing new child pornography. I also still maintain that with the rise of P2P, commercial CP distribution is going to be less valuable to those interested in obtaining CP. I guess what it really comes down to is I do not feel like we are responsible for the children of others, but I do feel that we have no right to dictate to others how they will raise their children, short of preventing them from abusing their children. I do not think that religious indoctrination is an abuse of such magnitude that it would justify external intervention. Even today there are groups that largely indoctrinate their children and cut off their access to external information, the Amish is one such population, however I do not believe that we must force the Amish to modernize themselves or to teach their children things that are at odds with their traditional faith. Does that mean that you now suspect me of being a closeted Amish person? Also for the record again, I would like to clarify for everyone that I am indeed not a religious person, and I am quite openly a doubtful agnostic. Yeah you did vastly overestimate the probability of the Christian beliefs mapping to reality, it approaches zero so closely that I could fill the screen up with zeros prior to putting a 1. It seems we do not disagree on this, rather we disagree on if we have the right to force others to teach their children the things that have the highest probability of being true or not. Certainly it has come to light on rare occasions, however you are naive to think that schools do not routinely expose the children they teach to religion. I have had teachers at public schools who knew of my lack of faith tell me that they think it is insane I risk my eternal soul. Indeed, I had one tell me while looking down his nose at me, that it is "too bad" that I am not a Christian. Although they did not try to teach me intelligent design. I cannot recall if in our daily pledge of allegiance to the state if we said "one nation under God", but I assume that we did as it is part of the pledge. Also, the founders made no mentions of Ak-47s either, but it is widely believed that we have the constitutional right to own these weapons. Likewise the constitution promises us freedom of speech and of the press. Admittedly there have been restrictions placed on freedom of speech, as well as the firearms that we are allowed to own. It makes sense that we cannot falsely yell fire in a crowded room, at least it makes sense so long as we live in a society that doesn't respect the rights of property owners enough to let them decide the rules of their own property. The courts have held that freedom of speech can be violated when there is a compelling reason to do so, with a clear societal benefit in doing so. I would maintain that this is not the case for child pornography possession in particular, as numerous studies have shown that there is no true correlation between child pornography possession and sex crimes against children. I would also extend this to distribution, although of course not production short of non coerced self production. In fact I would argue that there is a compelling reason with a clear societal benefit in legalizing the possession and distribution of child pornography, as numerous studies have concluded that the access to child pornography in an area strongly negatively correlates with the rate of child sex abuse in said area. Thus the courts ban of child pornography possession not only does not meet the criteria required for restricting our right to freedom of speech, but it actually does the exact opposite of what they intended. This is what happens when uninformed and emotionally charged people are given power, they make decisions that seem to be correct to them but are incorrect due to their lack of knowledge and inability to reason. Additionally our constitutional right to freedom of and from religion is also routinely violated. People in the church of Santo Daime are given an exception to the controlled substance act that allows them to consume DMT, Native Americans of certain religious backgrounds are given exceptions to the controlled substance act allowing them to use mescaline and additionally Catholic children are given exceptions to alcohol laws in order for them to be allowed to take their communion. These are all clear violations of the constitution. In short, essentially every single part of the constitution has been and continues to be violated by the government. It is essentially a worthless document and it is used more for propaganda and as a political talking point than anything. None of the major political parties in the United States actually want to follow the constitution, and they don't. Libertarians are the only ones who actually like the majority of the constitution of the USA.