First of all I will admit that I responded too harshly to you, mainly I am irritated at the wanker known as Limetless (whose name is somewhat of an oxymoron as it is not spelled correctly), I should not have snapped at you. In fact, your proposed system is not that bad at all. Mainly I hyper focused on one particular statement of yours I disagree with this. First of all I took it to imply that you consider drug users to be in trouble, although this may have been reading into what you said. However I also disagree with discouraging drug use, you seem to be of the opinion that drug use is inherently bad and I highly disagree with this. We should not discourage drug use, rather we should encourage responsible drug use. I suggested that you go to rehab not because I think you are a drug addict, but because you are a drug user who advocated discouraging drug use, thus making yourself somewhat of a hypocrite. Actually according to the professional IQ testing I have taken my short term memory is in the 99th percentile, so nope short term memory has not already forgotten that part. Your argument in your second post is that one reason for drugs to remain illegal is because children will use them, my counter argument was that children are already using drugs. You particularly named methamphetamine as a drug that children will use if it is legalized, I countered this by saying the fact of the matter is that when I was a child I and my peers already had ready access to methamphetamine. Fortunately for me I never became addicted to meth despite trying it some dozen or so times at a young age, although indeed I do have quite a lot of druggie friends! However none of my friends have fed meth to their children, although some of them were fed drugs by their parents as young children . The thing is, whether or not you want to admit it, children who want to use meth are going to use it regardless of what the law is. Trust me, I know this. I remember being young and although I knew plenty of people who didn't want to use meth, I cannot recall a single person who said 'Well I would love to use meth guys, but it is illegal so I better not!" , and in my opinion you are living in somewhat of a fantasy if you think this is at all a common occurrence. You say that we should not give unlimited access without any education, but that is exactly what you are arguing for. See, there already is unlimited access. Anyone can get hard drugs, even young children can without challenge. By making the drugs illegal you are clearly not stopping children from having access to them, but you are ensuring their exposure to the criminal world, you are ensuring that they are not properly educated and you are ensuring that there is a lack of quality control. The only thing you are failing to do is prevent children from gaining access to drugs. Do you seriously think that the only reason meth has not been tried by as many people as alcohol is because meth is illegal? Maybe in your world people give half a fuck about the law, but in my experiences things being illegal does not prevent people from trying them. Also your hypocrisy continues to show by accusing me and my friends of being druggies, because although this is true you are obviously a druggie yourself. I mean, you have admitted to using MDMA multiple times as well as DMT, four drug experiences in a year comes down to once every three months (assuming that this is all you have done), and in the eyes of mainstream society this enough to qualify you as a druggie. Also, I have experimented with heroin meth and cocaine and I do not feel as if my life is much worse from it. Meth I tried at the young age of 14, I didn't keep track of how many times I used it but I would say under two dozen. Cocaine I tried multiple times over a few months when I was 17, and heroin I partook in several times over the course of two weeks when I was 22. I did not become addicted to any of these substances, I did not resort to stealing to fund my 'habit' , pretty much nothing bad happened to me. Now I do know that bad things can happen to users of these drugs, just a few days ago a friend of mine overdosed and died from heroin. You know what I blame for this? I blame the fact that he was fresh out of prison for a failed piss test and he had no tolerance. I blame the fact that end users never know the purity of the heroin they are taking and he couldn't have known the exact dose he was taking. Maybe he would still have died if heroin was legal, I guess nobody really knows, but I think that if heroin was legal and pure and not cut that he would probably still be alive today. I also know plenty of people who have become addicted to meth and heroin and coke and turned into thieves to support their habits, of course I believe that if these drugs were legal they would be more affordable and people would be less likely to turn to crime to support their habits. Cigarettes are quite addictive, alcohol is quite addictive, and I do not see people stealing to support their alcohol and cigarette habits. Aha now I see the type of person you are. It makes sense to me that you would be one of the liberals who are quite concerned with the lives of all others, simply because you feel some need to 'help' drug users. See I do not think there should be any taxation or social safety nets, so there is no worry about unemployment or health care of drug users being paid for by society. Now I know that socialist liberals are really at odds with drug legalization because they want to steal money from everyone and use it to fund things like health care and unemployment, but if you stop supporting thievery and start supporting total freedom you will see that these things are actually not issues at all. Additionally, yes I have a great many druggie friends, some of them are even pretty bad people unfortunately. A lot of them are not though. A lot of them have been to prison simply because of the fact that they have been arrested with drugs, and indeed after this happens they tend to become more and more a part of the criminal world. That is one of the side effects of drugs being illegal after all, children are not prevented from using drugs but they are forced to associate with criminals, they become part of the criminal world when they go to jail for drug charges, and then eventually they overdose on impure heroin and die. Of course I have to put the blame on them, but really the blame falls just as much on the prohibitionists. See you really have me entirely misunderstood, but it is nice to see your prejudice against drug users and people who have been incarcerated for drug crimes, it really makes me feel less bad about earlier calling you a hypocrite, and once again I feel the need to ask; why the fuck are you here instead of at rehab?