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I would sure love to see a citation for that 30 gram law because it sounds like bullshit to me. No customs agency would be restricted in such a way for fucks sake people could risk free import all kinds of shit like plastic explosives etc just by keeping it under 30 grams and refusing to let customs look at it.

edit: huh you already gave a citation...

I think Czech Republic has the best method of dealing with pedophiles; harsh penalties for child abuse, legalized CP possession but not distribution or production, 15 year age of consent. The standard libertarian position seems to be that distribution should be legal as well as possession, with only production outlawed. I can entirely see their logic in that position and could probably be converted to it, but I see distribution as being much more grey area than production (clearly not moral) and posession (clearly not immoral). Certainly paying for production should be illegal, and maybe it is unfair regulation to prevent sites that host CP from charging for bandwidth fees or hosting advertisements, but I think the risk of creating a finanical market in child abuse via distributors as a sort of financial middle man, is substantial. There are also issues with violation of privacy which I think are far better founded in cases of distribution versus simple possession. But I can totally understand the libertarian argument (only production and directly paying for production should be outlawed) on a logical level, and unfortunately  I am probably falling victim to emotional reasoning :/.


Right now I am certain that the war on CP is largely just another scheme to fill up prison beds, there is no proven correlation between CP possession and child molestation and there are multiple studies claiming both ways. Considering there are numerous examples of fraud from one side of the debate, I tend to automatically discredit their studies when there is any lack of consensus. Pedophilia is simply a chronic mental disorder it is really strange to me when I see people who are so violent and hateful of them. People are not hateful of people with schizophrenia or bi polar disorder are they? As long as pedophiles don't create victims who cares, same way not every heroin user is going to shoot up a gas station for his next fix. They should be allowed to do anything they want that doesn't create victims, and the only even half decent argument against legalized CP possession is violation of privacy, but unfortunately nobody should think that they have a realistic chance of privacy when their photo goes on the internet, and it is the fault of the people who put it on the internet (at least the original poster, possibly secondary as well as per my earlier argument) not the fault of the people who look at it after it is available.

CP makes it easy to find pedophiles via traffic analysis, people hate pedophiles from media scare mongering and propaganda that doesn't reflect reality, people want pedophiles to be sent to prison so they feel safer, LE create databases of millions of pedophiles via traffic analysis and then get ever increasing budgets to be able to put larger and larger %s of them in prison. LE budgets increase, new prisons are built, more law enforcement are hired, more parole and probation officers are hired, software companies get massive contracts / benefits for making counter CP tools for investigators, rehabilitation centers get money, government gets an excuse to monitor us all even closer, tons of completely harmless people go to prison to get a few bad ones. It's such a familiar story.

Interpol already has a cyber narcotics division, but they primarily manage international operations against online pharmacies that pull in millions of dollars and compete with the pharmaceutical industry by disregarding intellectual property laws and FDA regulations. They generally are a major source of botnet funding / activity too, considering the massive amounts of spam they are behind.

The FBI has done some major international operations against for profit CP sites, that are similar to adult porn sites but charge a membership fee. Reading about the security of these sites is always fun, they tend to use pretty shitty tactics but some are mildly impressive. The last really interesting one I read about used reverse proxies and money mule networks but the operators still were located and pwnt, I think they pulled in a few million in membership fees. When LE pwns one of these sites they tend to first covertly pwn the operators and then they gather customer intelligence for a period of months, followed by a massive internationally (usually interpol/europol) coordinated raid that pull in thousands or tens of thousands of buyers simultaneously. In the grand scheme of things the people using these sites almost never are pwnt with much CP compared to the trade groups, and they very rarely are part of distribution, but it doesn't stop LE from arresting them even if they bought a single picture.

I guess it might not be a perfect analogy since CP is CP and drugs are drugs, but in for profit CP cases they do indeed carry out massive international operations that target even small time personal use customers. Part of me recognizes the difference between the two things, and part of me recognizes that mirror imaging is a common mistake in intelligence analysis, and that DEA agents may very well have a mentality that drug dealers and users are no better than CP purchasers. In my mind I can see a clear moral distinction, but it is probably not good to assume that the moral compass of the average DEA agent will mirror mine. Not to mention it is usually FBI pwning these CP sites and DEA has the *job* of pwning sites like SR, why should I think they will carry out their job to a lesser extent than the FBI carries out theirs?

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THOSE AND AM NOT GOING TO LOAD A YOUTUBE VIDEO BUT I KNOW AT LEAST A FEW PLACES SELL ATM CARDS THAT CAN BE LOADED WITH BITCOIN AT THE COMPANIES CURRENT EXCHANGE RATE THAT LET YOU CASH OUT AT ATMS, SOME OF THEM REQUIRE IDENTIFICATION AND SUCH BUT YOU CAN USE FORGERIES AND SKILLZ TO GET THEM ANONYMOUSLY, AND SOME OF THEM ARE PROVIDED BY UNDERGROUND COMPANIES THAT ONLY MAKE YOU GIVE A SHIPPING ADDRESS. I KNOW A FEW VENDORS WHO CASH OUT THIS WAY TO ADD ANOTHER LEVEL OF ANONYMITY TO THEIR BITCOINS. YOU CAN ALSO GET THESE FOR TRADITIONAL ECURRENCY LIKE PECUNIX AND LIBERTY RESERVE, AND CASH BITCOIN OUT TO ONE OF THOSE CURRENCIES AND LOAD THE CARD WITH THEM. I HIGHLY SUGGEST USING ANONYMOUS ATM CARDS FOR CASHING OUT EVEN IF YOU MIX YOUR BITCOINS.

Sobriety is pretty boring. Drugs enhance reality. At least my favorite ones do, like LSD. Of course they also distort it to an extent. MDMA is a nice social drug. Smoking weed is kind of shallow as far as the high goes, but it is a nice way to not be bored. Amphetamine can come in handy for studying. The novelty of trying new research chemicals is pretty cool. I like having religious experiences and can't really have them without psychedelics. I like to hack my brain. Even drugs like coke and heroin are fun to experiment with. I actually think heroin would be excellent to try if I get depressed, although that could be dangerous. When I tried heroin I felt orgasmic though and any cares or concerns I had were gone. I can see how that could be addictive though.

Largely I would compare some drug use to playing video games though. It is entertaining, it is fun, it kills time, it feels good. Others are like I imagine church must be for some people, or going to therapy or a museum or a reading a good book. Spiritually cleansing, emotionally healing, aesthetically pleasing and intellectually stimulating. It really just depends on the specific drug. If I summed it up in two words for all drugs in general, it would have to be "reality enhancing" though, although the interpretation of that changes with the substance .

I got pulled over leaving my dealers house and the police found an 8th of weed on me and were going to arrest me but I was like LOL I DIDN'T SIGN FOR THAT so they let me go. Last week I was going through customs and they found an 8th of weed on me but were all like lol personal use so they just shook their finger at me and let me on my way.

Discuss.

Ok guys..

1. The DEA does not care about people doing drugs. So they are not going 2 bust this site for some noble cause. The war on drugs is NOT a war whose purpose is to prevent drug use.

The purpose of the war on drugs is to provide jobs and protect established corporate and religious interests. Think of all the LE and prison guards who would be out of  job if drugs were legalized. Think about all the parole and probation officers. Think about all the people who work at rehabilitation facilities. Think of all the judges and DA's. Think of the people who train drug dogs. Think of the people who make drug tests. Think of the pharmaceutical industry. Think of all of the drug money that the federal government seizes. The war on drugs is directly responsible for *a lot* of peoples jobs and to prevent competition to established corporate interests. And religious people just think it is satanic. So today, largely the war on drugs is about money and religion. It still has a large discriminatory aspect to it as well, but I would argue less so today than in the past. And of course it gives the government more powers.

The primary reason we avoid the DEA is because the DEA doesnt want us or is already working on us. If the DEA wants SR it will have it.

DEA has publicly announced that it has an on going investigation into SR. You don't have high rankin government officials write letters to the head of the DEA asking them to shut down SR as soon as possible, without having some operation come out of it. There is a 0% chance that some people on SR will not be arrested for their participation on SR, and imo most of them will be customers simply because how are they going to get a vendor who follows proper security protocols?

A great secondary factor is that drug quantities sold, at least in public are small amounts. However, the first lets say 10 SR sellers would be worth the DEAs time.

The majority of people in prison over drugs are in prison for personal use amounts. Their incarceration is quite profitable for the government.

The DEA are crazy law breaking men with no ethics that are allowed to do almost anything they want for any amount of drugs. But no other countries drug police are like the US DEA. No other drug unit in the world would really want to go after SR and honestly the DEA would end up either getting minimal support or paying for their assistance.

Interpol has been the agency that focuses on internet related drug crime for a long time. It is quite naive to assume that the DEA will need to jump through many hoops to get the full support of Interpol and all of its member countries. Although of course USA is the country with the most major hard on for SR.

The most at danger are top ranked US vendors.

Maybe, but they should also be the most secure. It is also possible that the most at danger are those most easily pwnt, and that is more likely to be customers than vendors, since customers need to give a shipping address.

6. The same day people on this site piss off the right person, DEA agent, FBI, president, whoever has enough powder and is bored....we will see action taken.

I think we will see action soon enough. Targeted operations are generally run for fairly standardized amounts of time, 3 months, 6 months, 12 months, 18 months, 24 months, etc, before they simultaneously move in on the identified targets. The other type of operation they do is dragnet, in those cases they tend to be more reactive, ie; they move in on the target when they randomly intercept a package addressed to the target after doing dragnet mail screening.