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Quote from: kmfkewm on June 15, 2012, 02:53 am

It is pointless to argue with many of you guys , this subject shuts down your brains and makes you incapable of higher thought. Your cognitive processes become entirely dominated by emotion. You can't even make a distinction between viewing something and participating in something.Your arguments against the right to view CP are all about child molestation, like the two things are equal somehow. I really think you are mentally incapable of seeing the distinction. It is so weird, but whatever.

So you're an emotionless paedophile? Your parents must be awful proud.

Sorry bro, but last I checked humans had emotions.

Definitely do not meet the diagnosis criteria for pedophilia, maybe I am somewhat emotionally blunted compared to the average person, but I think I make up for it with extra portions of rationality.

Km, pedophiles pose a significant dilemma. I acknowledge that it is their innate sexual preference just as homo and hetero sexualities are not choices. So simple pedophiles who have never abused children do not deserve any punishment, just treatment because children, unlike adults, do not harbour the mental capacity to have a consensual sexual relationship. Giving them cp is not proper treatment for sooooooo many reasons. It  feeds a sordid industry of child rape and the pedophiles desire to ASS FUCK children. Instead, the government could fund research pursuing more effective ways to combat child molestation and help pedophiles rather than deregulating cp...

Does pornography feed your desire to ass fuck adults, or do you already desire to ass fuck adults without seeing pornography? And what child pornography industry is there? Essentially the entire commercial child pornography industry has been shut down for years. The vast majority of CP distribution consists of groups of people who only know each other by IP address putting shit up on public P2P networks for free, without even any real community aspect to speak of. The rest is anonymous people who don't even know each other by IP address trading on Freenet and Tor, or pseudonymous forum communities. The producers don't molest children simply because of the demand for CP, it is stupid to think so. The demand for CP could arguably lead to some production of CP, but it sure as hell does not lead to more child molestation. 

PS: Even if it does lead to more child molestation, I still think people have the right to view CP. Buying cocaine leads to more murders in Mexico, should you be banned from buying cocaine? What, do you support murder?!?!

Quote from: kmfkewm on June 15, 2012, 12:35 am

So let me get this straight...

On SR it is totally okay to say that we should torture and kill people who have not harmed others, simply because of a sexual preference they have no choice in having....

but we should love the police and absolutely not talk about killing them, because they are just doing their jobs (which they choose to have) by locking us up for life due to us wanting to use drugs, while harming nobody at all?

what the fuck is wrong with you people?

Your problem is you're viewing this from only one perspective, rather than from any one of ours. We can just as easily turn this around on you and say what the fuck is wrong with you?

Obviously we're at a standstill in opinions but you still won't agree to disagree, so again I say what the fuck is wrong with you?

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I believe scientific studies and the abundance of information and I think that thought crime is a horrible notion, wtf is wrong with me!  I don't think that viewing a picture results in quantum entanglement molestation, wtf is my problem.

Quote from: kmfkewm on June 14, 2012, 09:31 pm

will the scourge of people watching videos of little kids taking shits never end :-/  ? I for one will feel much better knowing that there are not anonymous people watching already recorded videos of little kids taking shits. Please also go after the people watching men stretching their anuses out, and everything else disgusting on the internet.

just because something is history doesn't make the means justified. people doing stupid shit to themselves is their own fault, having your uncle bob video tape you at 6 taking a shit isn't the same as two consenting able minded people doing whatever the hell they want.

Are you truly incapable of seeing the distinction between your uncle Bob video taping you taking a shit at the age of six, and someone ten years later watching the video on Tor?

Man I just discovered a hidden wiki full of crazy shit. Dead animal fuckers, penis mutilation, hitmen for hire, etc. The CP sites are pretty fucked up, I saw one with a pedobear logo. That's just plain fucking creepy.

Now I'm no expert, but there seems to be child pornography and women of close to legal age, "jailbait". The CP shit is just incomprehensible. There was a listing for an incest sort of child porn site and I would literally bash some sick bastard's head in with a hammer if I knew he was an incest CHOMO.

The jailbait didn't seem all that bad, but still it's pretty fucked up in a creepy Dad wanting to fuck his daughter's friend sort of way. Some US states have different ages of consent, so in some states one could legally fuck a 14-17 year old.

There's some dark shit on Tor.

*I don't like any sort of CP and was not advocating jailbait, just an opinion*

whew I thought you were going to forgo the mandatory disclaimer but you just put it at the end

It's mostly Russian organised crime Oscar.

And yeah Kap it'd be good if we could just line them up against them all. I'd never get fucking bored putting one through their skulls.

lolwut?? Their CPU and a PRNG is providing them with .onion addresses, and why would Russian organized crime want to distribute CP free of charge? It is mostly fanatical pedophiles who call themselves boy or girl lovers and think that they are being oppressed and that pedophilia will be seen as perfectly acceptable in ten or twenty years. They see themselves as freedom fighters in much the same way that SR sees himself (and is seen by others here). Most of them are extremely delusional and actually think having sex with children is good for them. Some of the others are quite psychopathic and are essentially the child sexual abuse version of serial killers. These people are quite dangerous, as many of the former are producers with many victims and many of the latter are the worst sort of human possible to imagine.

It is a shame that Tor protects child molesters and abusive psychopaths, but I think it is good that it protects peoples right to access information, including CP.

<quote>Pedophiles are born pedophiles, and if they don't harm others I don't have anything against them. </quote>

WTF kmfkewm, every time it comes to this CP thing. You jump on the wagon and give this provocative arguments. I am not so firm as you in these studies you mentioned, nor am I informed in the whole CP scene. But this statement is just false.

How can someone be a born Pedophile? If you are born as an innocent child you are just a child and we humans need some time to develop to grown humans. We are helpless and have an extended childhood. Unlike an animal that have to have skills to survive.
And I dont think someone that fixed on CP is a normal human. No way, man, no fucking way. Tell this someone who was in this situation as a child and now with all the problems of the shaken confidence and unable to love someone.....

Oh my god! Really?! I love you security posts, really but I have to stay away from this CP threads. I could cry just from reading this bullshit.

And on a side note, if someone consumes Adult porn with violence it can easily lead into a change of erotic feelings and a "new picture" in their heads.

The point I was trying to make is that pedophiles do not choose to be pedophiles anymore than a homosexual chooses to be a homosexual, I believe the 'I was born this way' (ie: had no choice) slogan was popularized by the homosexual movement, but it applies equally to pretty much any sexual preference.

I really can only theoretically understand the thinking pattern that you (and many others) are using, but I personally find it highly illogical, to the point that it is actually kind of confusing for me.

Tell this someone who was in this situation as a child and now with all the problems of the shaken confidence and unable to love someone.....

Has to do with MOLESTATION. The inability for people to distinguish between pedophilia and child molestation is as strange as it is common, I blame propaganda and media sensationalism for this phenomenon. People sometimes talk about child porn consumption directly causing some mystical voodoo process known as "revictimization" but there is absolutely no basis for this, it is essentially the same as asking me to believe that stabbing pins in a voodoo doll caricature of me will cause me to feel pain. Some people argue that access to child pornography increases a pedophiles risk of offending, but just as many studies say that it decreases the risk. Who knows what to believe in this world full of intense information warfare. So fall back to a morality stance, and increased probability of a pedophile molesting a child is not reason enough in my eyes to criminalize the behavior, that is pre-crime and pre-crime is bullshit. Some people argue that the commercial market or certain distribution structures result in the demand for child pornography causing production, but commercial child pornography is essentially non-existent in recent times, and at best this is an argument against certain distribution structures. I remain entirely unconvinced that viewing child porn is a particularly bad thing, although I am personally not turned on by children so avoid it .

he should have taken the lives of three cops and got one life sentence (which is equal to a thousand)