@12345 - so you don't think people are born to grow up with a specific sexual preference? i can't help being attracted to women - no one taught me that, it's just my preference, like gay guys can't help being attracted to other men - i don't have anything against gays - if you don't hurt anybody do what the fuck you like as far as i'm concerned, each to their own and all that, but you KNOW that gay guys dads did NOT want them growing up that way because they wouldn't be able to carry on the family name etc (honestly - is there any man out there who would NOT be secretly disappointed if their ONLY son turned out to be gay?). did their dads manage to 'teach' them to be straight? most likely if they tried too hard they'd end up with an estranged son who is still gay. so what makes you think pedos aren't born to grow up with bad wiring in their brain? it's not an illness - thats just a copout. like when people say obesity is an illness - fair enough some people do have a thyroid problem or whatever, but not fucking half the population, or whatever the stats are for obesity - bollocks is it, you've just got no self control when it comes to pies.
i'm not at all putting gays in the same basket as pedos, but it's the best example i could think of to get across what i'm trying to say
I like to think of pedophilia as a deviant sexual preference and separately as a mental illness, with the sexual preference not necessarily being coupled with mental illness but with the mental illness being mutually inclusive with pedophilia. The mental illness of pedophilia is characterized by extremely delusional thinking. Many pedophiles realize that it is bad to have sex with children, and they entirely avoid it. I do not see them as particularly mentally ill, although they certainly are not normal. However, some pedophiles do not think anything is wrong with pedophilia. They think that children are better off being molested by them, and that there is a conspiracy to keep the act of sexual interaction with children illegal and demonized. Some of them are even more extremely delusional, and think that actually sexually hurting children is an expression of love. They are very convinced that they are the good guys and see themselves as freedom fighters, or mentors/teachers or as helping impoverished children by paying them for sex acts etc, while in reality they are viciously abusing children. I think that when there is this significant of a disconnect from reality, that it is much more characteristic of a mental illness than of a deviant sexual preference. However in some cases it is fairly consistent with psychopathy, so there is probably a distinction to be made between 'psychopathic pedophilia' and 'delusional pedophilia'. These two sorts of pedophile are the vast majority of actual child molesters but are not even a majority of those who consume child pornography.
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