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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 11:03 am »
Really what I prefer to jack off to is completely irrelevant to any argument I have made. That said please enjoy your witch hunts. Also I would not need to feel any worry if I were into CP, even the NSA would have trouble to locate someone who used spoofed mac random WiFi access points for short periods of time + Tor + avoided positioning attacks by not carrying phones or using a car. I could collect a trillion terabytes of CP without any of it being possible to link to me unless I was the target of a completely unprecedented operation close to what intelligence agencies would hope to do if they tried their best. However, I have no interest in collecting terabytes of CP.. but I think it pretty much goes to show that fear of being apprehended for CP is not why I think CP should be legal to view. FBI can't even trace hidden services who the fuck is worried about them  (<_<)


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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 10:38 am »
Quote from: Raoul Duke on August 17, 2012, 09:33 am
Quote from: kmfkewm on August 17, 2012, 09:14 am
Quote from: Raoul Duke on August 17, 2012, 09:03 am
kmf - can you give a yes or no answer to the following questions, because you dance around the subject every time it crops up, yet every time it does crop up you are one of the first replies on it. your replies are more vague than a fucking shrink:

do you personally think looking at CP is wrong?
do you personally think creating CP is wrong?

But in either case, I will  say now and for the record that I do not personally think looking at CP is wrong, and do think that creating (a lot of things people call) CP is wrong.

thank you. thats clear enough for me. i don't understand how you can think one is wrong but not the other, but that has cleared up any uncertain thoughts i had about you, and i will not bother you on the subject again.

Likewise I do not understand how you can equate looking at a picture to doing what is in a picture, thankfully I know you do not actually think this way otherwise you would be turning yourself in to the Hague to be tried for war crimes, so really I don't understand the general inconsistency in your logic. Well actually I imagine that most of it stems from propaganda infused into your brain through sensationalist media and the think of the children screams of the police agencies and other profiteers of the slave trade. 

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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 09:14 am »
Quote from: Raoul Duke on August 17, 2012, 09:03 am
kmf - can you give a yes or no answer to the following questions, because you dance around the subject every time it crops up, yet every time it does crop up you are one of the first replies on it. your replies are more vague than a fucking shrink:

do you personally think looking at CP is wrong?
do you personally think creating CP is wrong?

I am unsure if you are somehow unable to determine my views on these things despite my attempts to be very clear , or if you are putting on a sarcastic facade by demonstrating a humorous lack of awareness of my opinions as a means of emphasizing that you think I am overly persistent in making them known? But in either case, I will  say now and for the record that I do not personally think looking at CP is wrong, and do think that creating (a lot of things people call) CP is wrong.

Limetless I was not dishing out or taking anything I just thought that we must be playing some game of escalation, because otherwise your ramblings made no sense to me?

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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 08:56 am »
Quote from: Limetless on August 17, 2012, 08:39 am
Quote from: kmfkewm on August 17, 2012, 08:37 am
Quote from: qt on August 17, 2012, 08:13 am
kmfkewm you are one sick fuck. All I get from your posts is its OK to look, not touch. There is no difference.
The simple fact people look for/at CP creates a demand, and with that $ to be made. In the process of meeting that demand for photos/videos, children are being hurt.

Or is that the view of a mere simpleton.

It is clearly the view of someone who has absolutely no idea what he is talking about and has done absolutely no research into trying to have an idea, yes

And this is clearly the attitude of someone who never sets foot outside of his bedroom.

And this is clearly the attitude of someone who takes it up the ass on a regular basis?

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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 08:37 am »
Quote from: qt on August 17, 2012, 08:13 am
kmfkewm you are one sick fuck. All I get from your posts is its OK to look, not touch. There is no difference.
The simple fact people look for/at CP creates a demand, and with that $ to be made. In the process of meeting that demand for photos/videos, children are being hurt.

Or is that the view of a mere simpleton.

It is clearly the view of someone who has absolutely no idea what he is talking about and has done absolutely no research into trying to have an idea, yes

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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 07:38 am »
only impossible for the simple creatures to distinguish ;)

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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 07:06 am »
Quote from: BlarghRawr on August 17, 2012, 06:55 am
Quote from: kmfkewm on August 17, 2012, 06:48 am
Quote from: Limetless on August 17, 2012, 06:34 am
Quote from: kmfkewm on August 17, 2012, 06:28 am
Quote from: Limetless on August 17, 2012, 06:08 am
Lol that's just the bullshit pussy option, once someone uses or consumes CP in a serial fashion then they should be marked for death as soon as they are caught.

why? In the spirit of killing ? At least when I say people should be killed I have good reason.

What you mean the rants you have that make SR look shit when really your pseudo-anarchic bullshit just smacks of wanting free reign to jack off to pics of little Petey getting fisted for his 5th birthday?

I can barely parse that, would you like to try again?
"What, you mean the rants you have that make SR look like shit? When really, your pseudo-anarchic bullshit just smacks of wanting free reign to jack off to pics of (cp)?"

I believe that should help.

Ah that helps somewhat. I did not realize that my opinions were so synonymous with SR , or that they reflected on SR in anyway actually. In fact I am sure there are plenty of individuals here who would love to speak on behalf of the community in telling me that I am completely fucking insane , and that my opinions are radically different from the opinions in the consensuses they have taken.

That said I am not particularly interested in pictures of Petey getting fisted, but if someone else is I certainly do not see that as reason to harm them , or even as a particularly big deal all , although in an academic sense it is rather interesting I guess 0_0 . Huh I wonder why someone could get off to pictures of a 5 year old being fisted. I sure don't see the attraction there! But so fucking what as long as they are not fisting five year olds it is really none of my business I guess :/

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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 06:48 am »
Quote from: Limetless on August 17, 2012, 06:34 am
Quote from: kmfkewm on August 17, 2012, 06:28 am
Quote from: Limetless on August 17, 2012, 06:08 am
Lol that's just the bullshit pussy option, once someone uses or consumes CP in a serial fashion then they should be marked for death as soon as they are caught.

why? In the spirit of killing ? At least when I say people should be killed I have good reason.

What you mean the rants you have that make SR look shit when really your pseudo-anarchic bullshit just smacks of wanting free reign to jack off to pics of little Petey getting fisted for his 5th birthday?

I can barely parse that, would you like to try again?

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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 06:28 am »
Quote from: Limetless on August 17, 2012, 06:08 am
Lol that's just the bullshit pussy option, once someone uses or consumes CP in a serial fashion then they should be marked for death as soon as they are caught.

why? In the spirit of killing ? At least when I say people should be killed I have good reason.

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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 06:02 am »
Quote from: OzFreelancer on August 17, 2012, 05:37 am
Quote from: Guru on August 17, 2012, 05:29 am
Quote from: Flyhigh on August 15, 2012, 01:01 am
If the Feds are concerned about SR they have another thing  to worry about other than drugs....searching through Tor. there are sites dealing with all kinds of shit. the worst is those sick fuck pedophiles.

An glad the armory is gone too...But the news reported SR was selling drugs....big fucking deal!  how come they didn't profile the pedophiles...Why because the reporter needed something to fill the slot..they can kiss my ass. personally i don't care what type of drug you do.. but messing with kids is sick.. 

The reason that reporters almost never deal with the pedos on the net is that they want to keep their asses out of jail.  Any reporter who attempts to do any independent research for a story, risks going to jail. In 1999, NPR reporter Larry Matthews was convicted and sentenced to 18 months in jail for allegedly possessing child porn. Mr. Matthews was forbidden by the judge from using the fact that he was a reporter in his defence. He was forbidden by the judge from introducing into evidence that he had a long-standing track record of working on such stories. The jury never got to hear this.

Quote from: Flyhigh on August 15, 2012, 01:01 am
anyway, just needed to vent. The US spends more time fucking with peaceful drug users. They don't need to worry about SR, but really,  Look at the big picture, there is a lot of crazy stuff in deep web. we may be an easy target but, we are the least of the Governments problem. Just be careful and say not to Kids..

I wish we could have a site just for weed and shrooms and LSD. It would make my world wonderful... ::) ;D

Part of the reason that Silk Road is getting so much media attention is that it is NOT illegal for a reporter to visit this site, register and look around. It is NOT illegal for images of weed, shrooms, or other contraband goods to appear on their monitors. The same cannot be said for the child abuse images on the darknet.  As soon as a child abuse image appears on a reporter's monitor, they are guilty of a criminal offence, and can be prosecuted, convicted and jailed, just as Larry Matthews was. That stuff is literally too hot to handle -- they risk going to prison -- is it any wonder they back off?

Guru

All this is true to a certain extent, but on the other had, believe me, most journalists would not want to look at CP sites, even if it was legal.  And of course, an article based on hearsay doesn't carry as much weight as an article based on first-person research.

As it happens, people who have legitimate reasons to access such sites (e.g. special units of law enforcement and academics) can apply to be allowed to do so under strict guidelines.  Apparently many people who have to do this research need psychological counseling for a long time afterwards.

I hope that anyone who needs psychological counseling after seeing pictures of naked kids gets it.....

but seriously some CP is fucking horrible and other is barely even on my giving a fuck at all scale , of course though it doesn't make much of a difference since CP is CP. Anybody who looks at a porn site that allows image uploading is going to see CP and in many cases not even know it (and LE generally will not give a fuck) , but if someone goes to a site that has the same images and is named pedo.com then they will get raided and be fucked.  Look at all these people here who have seen CP on 4chan or anywhere else, every one of them is guilty under the law for having CP in their web caches or having seen it and they still think that they are somehow special and that these laws are good?

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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 05:06 am »
Quote from: JSB on August 17, 2012, 04:30 am
Quote from: kmfkewm on August 17, 2012, 04:22 am
Quote from: JSB on August 17, 2012, 04:05 am
  kmf, I don't really want to argue but don't you think that your argument from the technical perspective of computers is extremely pointless and pedantic?  If that type of argument is valid I could argue that murder shouldn't be illegal because what's really happening is an uncountable number of atoms are moving in a way that according to quantum physics is not entirely understood by modern science and if just one of those atoms decided to do something different the entire universe might have been changed and the reality that we saw when that person was murdered could be different.

  I don't really have an opinion that is set in stone on this, but your argument just seems to ignore the other posters points, they're saying that if it portrays cp then it should be banned, it's as simple as that, and the number play behind displaying images on a screen are completely irrelevant to that in the end.  your argument from a technical perspective doesn't seem like an actual response, it just shows that it would be difficult to enforce such a rule.

  Your assertion that all of the people that disagree with you here are simply listening to government propaganda and aren't actually interested in seeing less children raped or molested is pretty groundless as well, I think that they'd all disagree.

edit:  In the end someone was probably permanently psychologically scarred in those videos, that's my problem with them, I find your other arguments more convincing as, we portray murder constantly etc even though murder is illegal, as I said I don't really have a set opinion and try to keep an open mind on things.

The technical argument just shows that you want to make numbers illegal, and that you are not even sure exactly which numbers you want to be illegal, or how much I can add or subtract to an illegal number before it becomes legal. What if I multiply two illegal numbers together, is the resulting number illegal?? In a way you are trying to enforce something that can not even be defined. I actually hope that someone encodes a CP image into a sequence of English characters and publishes it as a book ! Then they can want to burn the books and that is a more fitting image of their mentality.

That's what I disagree about though, saying that a technical aspect of cp is what they want to illegalize is wrong, that's like saying they want to illegalize computer screens because that's what they used to show the images or if you want to go further we may as well start talking about the bad apples in the table of elements, only what those numbers are portraying matters in the end, if you multiplied those numbers together and they didn't show cp then no one would care, if you added 1 to one of the numbers and it showed a blank screen no one would care, if they continued to show cp then people would care.

edit: to ozfreelancer, I couldn't care less if they jack off to pictures of kids at the beach, it's just the psychological scarring of children involved in the videos that we're actually talking about here that I find abhorrent.  In the end though it's a complex issue and I really have no idea what's right so I'll just quit posting now.

I personally agree I think everyone with /dev/urandom should be arrested if they keep getting output from it long enough ;)

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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 04:49 am »
Quote from: Flyhigh on August 17, 2012, 04:25 am
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Quote from: kmfkewm on August 17, 2012, 03:47 am

I would certainly be a lot more angry at the person who molested my child, than at the people who saw pictures of it afterwards. Their act of seeing pictures makes my child no more or less molested , in fact it is not possible for it to have any additional effect on the child that was not caused already by the molester taking the pictures/videos and releasing them to the internet in the first place, unless the child takes an interest in being notified every time someone downloads a picture or video of them.

Lol then I feel sorry for your children if you ever have any. :)
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I feel sorry for my hypothetical children as well, they will grow up in a world controlled by and filled with stupid people.  A child would be lucky to live in a world that respects freedom so much as to allow people to look at images of molestation as long as they do not engage in molestation themselves.
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Interesting, I completely understand your point of view and i can agree that the Looking at a picture does not make you guilty of what the picture is about. But, if we the majority of like minded people don't set the limits then there would be no limits. not allowing people to view something is not wrong. Its like not letting your child look at crazy shit when their minds are still developing. the same goes with sick fucks whose minds are twisted and will act on or mimic an act, based on a picture they saw. Our freedom gives us the freedom to not allow some things in this world not to be shared or freely seen. Some cant handle it, some can and will act on it. hurting those around them...developing pedo's  who can easily get photos, over time will act out those images. If we could stop that we secure our freedom...

with that said, one can say that my point could be used in all bad vices man has...and this is true..but...! We as a society have developed limits, some are still way out there like looking at picture of torture,  murder, beatings, doing drugs, drinking, etc etc..These may be frowned upon and perhaps you will be criticized by others and maybe even locked up  but that doesn't cross the line like CP....

So i guess your ok to lift the rating system on movies, so young kids can go see rough sex porn and thinks that's fine. if we didn't sensor some things in this world our kids would grow up morally distorted
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young kids can already see rough porn (and CP actually) online so I think rating systems are entirely pointless. That stuff is better enforced in family not by government or external society. Also there is a lot of scientific evidence that shows pedophiles with access to CP are less likely to molest children, for every paper you can cite that leans one way I can cite another going the other. I guess at that point you just need to look at the credentials of the people publishing.

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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 04:22 am »
Quote from: JSB on August 17, 2012, 04:05 am
  kmf, I don't really want to argue but don't you think that your argument from the technical perspective of computers is extremely pointless and pedantic?  If that type of argument is valid I could argue that murder shouldn't be illegal because what's really happening is an uncountable number of atoms are moving in a way that according to quantum physics is not entirely understood by modern science and if just one of those atoms decided to do something different the entire universe might have been changed and the reality that we saw when that person was murdered could be different.

  I don't really have an opinion that is set in stone on this, but your argument just seems to ignore the other posters points, they're saying that if it portrays cp then it should be banned, it's as simple as that, and the number play behind displaying images on a screen are completely irrelevant to that in the end.  your argument from a technical perspective doesn't seem like an actual response, it just shows that it would be difficult to enforce such a rule.

  Your assertion that all of the people that disagree with you here are simply listening to government propaganda and aren't actually interested in seeing less children raped or molested is pretty groundless as well, I think that they'd all disagree.

edit:  In the end someone was probably permanently psychologically scarred in those videos, that's my problem with them, I find your other arguments more convincing as, we portray murder constantly etc even though murder is illegal, as I said I don't really have a set opinion and try to keep an open mind on things.

The technical argument just shows that you want to make numbers illegal, and that you are not even sure exactly which numbers you want to be illegal, or how much I can add or subtract to an illegal number before it becomes legal. What if I multiply two illegal numbers together, is the resulting number illegal?? In a way you are trying to enforce something that can not even be defined. I actually hope that someone encodes a CP image into a sequence of English characters and publishes it as a book ! Then they can want to burn the books and that is a more fitting image of their mentality.

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Off topic / Re: SR is the least of our Troubles
« on: August 17, 2012, 03:47 am »
Quote from: Limetless on August 17, 2012, 03:44 am
Quote from: kmfkewm on August 17, 2012, 03:26 am
Quote from: Limetless on August 17, 2012, 03:13 am
Be interesting to see what you thought if your children were molested Kmf, what would you say then? Would you be happy for the videos and/or images of Kmf Jnr being violated being thrown around the web for any sick fuck to jack off to? I'm not sure you'd be dancing to the same rhythm then or then again maybe there would be other reasons for this. Who knows?

I would certainly be a lot more angry at the person who molested my child, than at the people who saw pictures of it afterwards. Their act of seeing pictures makes my child no more or less molested , in fact it is not possible for it to have any additional effect on the child that was not caused already by the molester taking the pictures/videos and releasing them to the internet in the first place, unless the child takes an interest in being notified every time someone downloads a picture or video of them.

Lol then I feel sorry for your children if you ever have any. :)

I feel sorry for my hypothetical children as well, they will grow up in a world controlled by and filled with stupid people.  A child would be lucky to live in a world that respects freedom so much as to allow people to look at images of molestation as long as they do not engage in molestation themselves.

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Security / Re: Fingerprints
« on: August 17, 2012, 03:45 am »
not to be a douchebag but why the fuck would you send packages and leave fingerprints on them lol

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