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It is also worth noting that someone who orders kilo of cocaine probably has a lot of money that the feds can seize once they bust him, so even if they do not get the escrow money back, they will likely more than be able to cover the loss.

I like the idea of GPS assisted dead drops for moving bulk, or for doing local deliveries of small amounts in a small area. Mail is still pretty safe though, I might actually trust the mail to move a kilo of coke more than I trust some random fuck on a .onion site. In any case the buyer should not give the drop off point or else they could be LE and bust the delivery person, delivery person should pick the drop off point in an area close to where the buyer suggests (by close I mean within sixty miles or so). Biggest risk is that mostly LE will sign up for the long distance transporting service, to bust customers, who are all going to be bulk dealers. For localized dead drops, where vendors deliver inside a local region (probably big cities would be best), I think the idea is pretty solid though. It avoids the need for mail transportation which drops seizure risk substantially, keeps anonymity for the vendor (really it increases it as they can drop product off literally at countless locations) and increases anonymity some for the customer (picking up from a random location the vendor picks is probably even a bit safer than using a fake ID box).

Maybe I'm a bit paranoid and have nothing to worry about but...it freaked me out...I'm really not happy with the vendor either about this...although the tear was not there fault why wouldn't they tape the sides like every other fucking weed vendor?

Probably because taped sides are a flag.

Some of the complaints in this thread seem somewhat unfounded to me. Standard stealth shipping has always been printed labels, flat as possible / small as possible container, vacuum sealed product (sometimes in two or three bags). I am sure it can be improved upon some, most notably with less permeable vacuum seal bags, but if you are complaining about getting a few grams of powder shipped to you vacuum sealed between two sheets of paper in a priority mail envelope, you are really setting a higher standard than has ever been the the case. I have gotten international packages that consisted of powder dumped into heavily taped cardboard envelopes , that sounded like baby rattles when shaken , from the  powder bouncing around all over the damn place. That is horrible shipping. Vacuum sealed flat in an inconspicuous envelope between two sheets of paper? What more could you really ask for other than that better bags are used perhaps?

I note someone in this thread mentioned he thinks his package was seized because it was express shipped. This is very possible, in my experience I have seen far more express packages intercepted than anything else. Especially international overnight shipped packages are inspected in high percentages I think. Fast shipping is also a known flag for drug packages, the faster the shipping method is the more likely LE are to think the package is suspect and inspect it. Slower shipping has problems as well, like being in the mail system for longer, but I am actually pretty positive that slower shipping is less likely to lead to an interception. Maybe somewhere in the middle is best , but overnight definitely is the worst.

Moisture barrier bags look like they all have metal foil on them. In general I would avoid shipping anything with metal foil on it if it can be avoided, I suspect packages containing metal are more likely to be inspected actually. I will need to read the thread about vacuum sealed bags first I suppose, but my initial thought is certainly that something creating a vacuum is far less likely to have scent permeate it than something without a vacuum. I also recall there was another vacuum sealing thread where someone with a drug dog tested several packages with different sorts of drugs, and the time spans for detectable permeation ranged from many hours to days, increasing substantially with each added layer of vacuum bag. Another technique I have heard people suggest is vacuum sealing the product in one bag, filling another vacuum seal bag with activated charcoal and then vacuum sealing it around the first bag. I have no idea if this is effective at preventing scent from permeating through all the layers or not, but I am positive it is effective at making the package weigh more. The more a package weighs the more likely it is to be inspected, weight is actually one of the most likely things to get a package selected for inspection. They are more interested in stopping big shipments of drugs than personal use amounts, and big shipments of drugs weigh more so of course they are going to be more likely to inspect a package if it weighs more. This makes me apprehensive about doing anything that will substantially increase the weight of a package, unless it is already quite heavy I suppose. Also, I have read in several profiling papers on drug dealers that the most sophisticated dealers vacuum seal their packages to prevent detection, it seems that if the most elite drug trafficking groups are using vacuum sealing that it is a legitimate technique, I have never heard of them using foil bags but I do have citations that they utilize mathematical / physics formulas to determine how long it will take for the scent to permeate their bags, to make sure their product is undetectable for the entire time it is in transit.

So pretty much I think we should take the utmost caution when it comes to changing standard procedure for packaging things. Is there room for improvement? Certainly. There are all kinds of cool techniques as well, for example making pottery out of ketamine and then smashing it to bits and extracting it on the other end. People have done this with coke and they were busted because dogs could smell it , but for ketamine it may be a great way to move bulk. Vendors should really take care to change up their shipping methods somewhat as well, because they want to avoid being profiled. It is also really important for bothvendor and customer to understand the intelligence risk of checking tracking with proxy services, and weigh it against the benefits, and think of solutions that will work for them (checking tracking from home without a proxy is generally a BAD idea, but imo it is generally a bad idea to get shit sent to your house in the first place. Checking tracking with Tor from home on a package that is being sent to your home, is quite likely more dangerous than checking tracking without Tor on a package that is being sent to your home). Also a worry is that vendors use tracking stickers with sequential labels, and that an intercept of a single package sent out could lead to sequential serial numbers being flagged as well.

there is absolutely no reason to open that outside of Tor and actually it is horrible for your security if you open clearnet links here outside of Tor.

Do tell I dont want to buy sprayed weed, bought some before from silk road and you see it all the time even in Amsterdam.
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I hear most commercial weed in NL is sprayed with jwh or similar.

I personally see the drug laws within the United States relaxing in the upcoming years. We are in serious debt,no longer can we afford to lock up individuals for drug related crimes;attitudes are changing. Drugs are a personal choice, I believe there should be age restrictions, but other than that, you should be free to do what you want to your body.

As time passes and more and more old people die and more and more young people are allowed to vote, there could be some serious change in the drug laws. Old people are mostly irreparably  indoctrinated , young people are mostly wise to bullshit and lies (probably largely thanks to the internet!). It is too bad that we don't have upper age limits on voting as well, since we have lower age limits. Although I favor anarchy, I also favor revoking peoples right to vote when they turn , I dunno, 60? People start to get really out of touch. I listened to some old people a while ago and they pretty much said "Praise the good Lord Jesus, may he save us from the coloreds, the homosexual agenda and the druggies!." Once the majority of people like that are confined largely to the history books, maybe we will have a chance at living in a somewhat freer society. Chances are it will also be quite socialist though, which sucks, but given the choice between libertarian-socialism (freedom of life, financial slavery to the collective) and fascist theocracy (no freedom at all, Biblical laws) it really is a pretty obvious choice.

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by which I mean, there are more effects out there than you can get from traditional psychedelics. By a lot. I don't know about these new chemicals , as I have sworn off taking untested drugs long ago now (well, sort of long ago), but the old school research chemicals are not really trying to replace traditional psychedelics. They are adding to the list of psychedelic experiences. If you want to limit yourself to the traditional psychedelics, more power to you I guess. But it is naive to say that only the traditional psychedelics are any good. They do tend to be some of the best (LSD IS the best), and they are pretty much all the safest, but they simply do not cover the same range of effects and time durations as the research chemicals do. None of the traditional psychedelics give cartooning or tracers like 2c-b does, for one out of thousands of examples. None of the traditional psychedelics give the same auditory distortions as DIPT or 5-meo-DIPT. There is a full world of psychedelics out there and saying they are all LSD knock offs for stupid kids who can't get LSD is just stupid.