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Title: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: White 0ut on April 26, 2013, 08:45 am
Directly from the man himself, we should all read this, acknowledge it, use it as a GPS to travel SR & to live our lives!
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Silk Road Charter

Silk Road is a global enterprise whose purpose is to empower people to live as free individuals. We provide systems and platforms that allow our customers to defend their basic human rights and pursue their own ends, provided those ends do not infringe on the rights of others.

Our mission is to have voluntary interaction between individuals be the foundation of human civilization.

We conduct ourselves and our enterprise from the following fundamental values that are at the heart of who we are:

Self-ownership
Individuals own their bodies, thoughts and will. Anything they create with their property or obtain without coercion is also theirs.

Responsibility
People are responsible for their actions. If one infringes on another's rights, they should be held accountable.

Equality
Property rights apply to all individuals equally, without exception.

Integrity
Honoring one's word as one's self. Word, thought, and action are aligned.

Virtue
Striving to improve one's self and the lives of others in all actions. To create value.

We promise to be true to our purpose, to accomplish our mission, to operate consistent with our values, and to run our enterprise in service of our customers.

This is who we are.

This is what you can count on.
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Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: phoboss on April 26, 2013, 02:12 pm
Is that it what utter utter BS man flipping ell my 3 year old niece could of told you this rubbish and she would've known she was fobbing you off ha ha ha ha ha WTF.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: inigo on April 26, 2013, 02:48 pm
I am so glad the captain felt it was time to share this with you guys. It's quite an inspiring document, in fact when I first saw it I lay awake for the next few nights wondering how I could more align myself with these virtues. I am so grateful to see so many others who are equally as moved by the charter as I was when I first got a glimpse of it.

On the other hand, it is just as disappointing to see the leeches who are happy to ride along for the success, but laugh at the principles that make us who we are. These users embody everything that is wrong with our little slice of heaven here. I can only hope that someone comes along who is capable of opening their self-sealed eyes.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: flaxceed on April 26, 2013, 02:58 pm
It is great to see this expression of values and to see Silk Road pushing forward with so much success.  We should all keep the flame alive in the face of difficulty.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: NW Nugz on April 26, 2013, 04:39 pm
It is so great when what you want to do matches doing what is right :-)

It is also great when supporting SR to feel like the people who run things are the good guys - even if they dress like villains ;-)
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: Jediknight on April 26, 2013, 07:04 pm
I'll pledge to this instead of my flag.

Can we get a. Official flag or seal?  And not a skull and crossbones either.  Lol
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: inigo on April 26, 2013, 10:06 pm
I'll pledge to this instead of my flag.

Can we get a. Official flag or seal?  And not a skull and crossbones either.  Lol

This is a great idea.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: Tunbear on April 26, 2013, 10:09 pm
DUE TO THE POTENTIONAL OF ME BANNHED THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT IS SAID IN JEST AND IS IN NO WAY TRUE

Hey wonder where protection of vendors fits in after one just finding out another has stored the address  he used over 9 months back and messaged him outside of SR to show that he had this in a threatening manner


Wouldn't that be crazy right ?! I mean biascallly having no sort of ramifications of such a cosmic event (if 1 from 1 9 months ago is a saved, how many other vendors, how many other customers, would also be saved?


BUT YAY FOR SILK ROAD!
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: wackmanblu on April 27, 2013, 03:00 am
At the risk of pissing in the wind - DPR and a lot of this site's users are on the verge of becoming a cult.

I am so glad the captain felt it was time to share this with you guys. It's quite an inspiring document, in fact when I first saw it I lay awake for the next few nights wondering how I could more align myself with these virtues. I am so grateful to see so many others who are equally as moved by the charter as I was when I first got a glimpse of it.

On the other hand, it is just as disappointing to see the leeches who are happy to ride along for the success, but laugh at the principles that make us who we are. These users embody everything that is wrong with our little slice of heaven here. I can only hope that someone comes along who is capable of opening their self-sealed eyes.

I'll pledge to this instead of my flag.


This is a great idea.


I dunno, these comments seem kind of .. silly. This is a drug website, People here buy dope, of course they'll be behind anything that makes that happen. 
While I admire the site founders and their free spirit of enterprise, they are not Gods, this place should not become some kind of shrine to political ideals. It is only another place where we do what we're not suppose to do (according to law) and get away with it. Ultimately, this is just a community of people doing business.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: AllDayLong on April 27, 2013, 05:40 am
I dunno, these comments seem kind of .. silly.

I'm with you there. I can imagine dude staying awake because he was a part of the SR. But because of this document? Are you fucking kidding me? The only thing that isn't a given for most of the population is
Quote
"Virtue
Striving to improve one's self and the lives of others in all actions. To create value."
because that's impossible. But most actions sure.
I mean I love the SR. Like, I really really love the SR. I just don't see anything more than my elementary school's code here.
Inigo, I hope you were talking about scammers because otherwise if they come here to do business than who cares what they laugh at?
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: White 0ut on April 27, 2013, 06:14 am

I dunno, these comments seem kind of .. silly. This is a drug website, People here buy dope, of course they'll be behind anything that makes that happen. 
While I admire the site founders and their free spirit of enterprise, they are not Gods, this place should not become some kind of shrine to political ideals. It is only another place where we do what we're not suppose to do (according to law) and get away with it. Ultimately, this is just a community of people doing business.

I share some fairly personal bonds with the people here that frankly I wouldn't trade for anything.

You can find help for addiction here.
You can get qualified medical and legal advice.
You can learn about all types of things on computers encryption, anonymity ect..
You can get more positive vibes in the +Karma thread than you can irl.
You can learn here...
This is A LOT more than a "community of people doing business."

Not to mention,  & obviously the politics behind it work pretty fucking well considering we are all still here, and honestly I am flourishing.


Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: nuggets5 on April 27, 2013, 06:26 am
I want to post my .02 cents. I am sure some people will Neg me but whatever.

Honestly, this site is awesome, and I am very appreciative of this site being here to assist us, and yes I do agree that we should live free and be able to make choices on ourselves. If you want to do 40grams of heroin a day, or smoke 1 blunt a year then that is your choice. Some people praise DPR as being gods, this is ridiculous. I mean afterall, they believe in free will and free spirit, and just run a drug site and they are making bank, people act like they are doing this for free!!! IN FACT, they are making insane amounts of money. Only if everyone had intense knowledge of IT based occupations, IT secuirty, web based design and building blocks, security, money laundering, then anyone can make a similar site if they have the balls, just like Atlantis has done(I am still skeptical of that site)

I have made enough of this site to live comfortably for at least 3 years without a job, and for that I am grateful. I had a connect in cali that I was shipping to and from for over a year before I even heard of this site before, and honestly it was easier to mail homeboy 14k in cash for a 5 pack bc he trusted me then to get bitcoins, hope the site is up, then message to message to get what I want. I stopped because he wouldn't care if a pack ever went missing hahah.


This site is one of many for the future, I DO commend DPR staff for fighting for what they believe in, whether it be money or the act of in believe for what they believe in. That is truly amazing, they will stand up and fight no matter what happens.

Always fight in for what you believe on. Long live the road.


Always,
Nuggets5
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: White 0ut on April 27, 2013, 06:32 am
I want to post my .02 cents. I am sure some people will Neg me but whatever.

Honestly, this site is awesome, and I am very appreciative of this site being here to assist us, and yes I do agree that we should live free and be able to make choices on ourselves. If you want to do 40grams of heroin a day, or smoke 1 blunt a year then that is your choice. Some people praise DPR as being gods, this is ridiculous.

I have made enough of this site to live comfortably for at least 3 years without a job, and for that I am grateful. I had a connect in cali that I was shipping to and from for over a year before I even heard of this site before, and honestly it was easier to mail homeboy 14k in cash for a 5 pack bc he trusted me then to get bitcoins, hope the site is up, then message to message to get what I want. I stopped because he wouldn't care if a pack ever went missing hahah.


This site is one of many for the future, I DO commend DPR staff for fighting for what they believe in, whether it be money or the act of in believe for what they believe in. That is truly amazing, they will stand up and fight no matter what happens.

Always fight in for what you believe on. Long live the road.


Always,
Nuggets5

+Karma!

I don't think DPR is a god by any means, I just think the majority of the people here relate to his views, while the others just business.

Either way, I think it's safe to say that if DPR didn't have to stay anonymous, he/she would stand out in a way that most of us would consider most admirable.

We aren't enforcing the charter on the whole community fellas it's just there for people to read, like a magazine, if you don't like it, don't subscribe..

That doesn't mean your business isn't welcome, or your friendship isn't cherished, it just means you have different views.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: nuggets5 on April 27, 2013, 06:40 am
I want to post my .02 cents. I am sure some people will Neg me but whatever.

Honestly, this site is awesome, and I am very appreciative of this site being here to assist us, and yes I do agree that we should live free and be able to make choices on ourselves. If you want to do 40grams of heroin a day, or smoke 1 blunt a year then that is your choice. Some people praise DPR as being gods, this is ridiculous.

I have made enough of this site to live comfortably for at least 3 years without a job, and for that I am grateful. I had a connect in cali that I was shipping to and from for over a year before I even heard of this site before, and honestly it was easier to mail homeboy 14k in cash for a 5 pack bc he trusted me then to get bitcoins, hope the site is up, then message to message to get what I want. I stopped because he wouldn't care if a pack ever went missing hahah.


This site is one of many for the future, I DO commend DPR staff for fighting for what they believe in, whether it be money or the act of in believe for what they believe in. That is truly amazing, they will stand up and fight no matter what happens.

Always fight in for what you believe on. Long live the road.


Always,
Nuggets5

+Karma!

I don't think DPR is a god by any means, I just think the majority of the people here relate to his views, while the others just business.

Either way, I think it's safe to say that if DPR didn't have to stay anonymous, he/she would stand out in a way that most of us would consider most admirable.

We aren't enforcing the charter on the whole community fellas it's just there for people to read, like a magazine, if you don't like it, don't subscribe..

That doesn't mean your business isn't welcome, or your friendship isn't cherished, it just means you have different views.

Thanks for +karma. I totally agree with you. Everyone seems to be freaking out over the charter, and to be honest people are going WAY into depth about it. DPR simply wrote a quick summary for what they believe their motto and their driving force. If you hate it, ignore it and continue to buy drugs, if you love it, +1 to dpr and continue to buy drugs
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: NW Nugz on April 27, 2013, 07:30 am
While I admire the site founders and their free spirit of enterprise, they are not Gods, this place should not become some kind of shrine to political ideals. It is only another place where we do what we're not suppose to do (according to law) and get away with it. Ultimately, this is just a community of people doing business.

I'd say it is a "shrine to political ideals" already. If large numbers of people openly
"do what we're not suppose to do (according to law) and get away with it" long enough, the laws tend to change. That's one reason the freedom attackers are so pissed off about this site and various other uncontrollable internet and grass root "movements". This seems like much more than "just a community of people doing business" to me.

Maybe you have to have taken some good acid long ago to see the big picture the way I do? I would not be completely surprised to find out some of my beliefs/ideas are drug-induced figments of imagination? I think I'll continue to cling to them for the time being, though :-) NWN
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: inigo on April 27, 2013, 08:34 am
Well that version of the charter is actually shortened and refined a bit from the original one that I saw that inspired me so much, but still. It's obvious you guys don't share the same voluntarism ideals that I do, and because of that you'll never understand why this site is so significant in the way that those of us in the freedom movement do. You may not share my passion and you clearly don't see the historical significance of this organization, but that's okay. You can look at us as "just a drug website" all you want, but I promise you that history books will reflect my sentiments and not yours. We are dedicating every waking moment of our lives to freeing mankind from oppression, and even though we are just getting started we have already done more to alter the future of civilization then most of you could ever hope to achieve in 10 lifetimes. But go ahead, brush us off as worthless nobodies. You enjoy your slavery.

I will add, that I completely understand the sycophancy toward DPR may be a little off-putting to a lot of you. But that's just a manifestation of how passionate we are about our beliefs, and how important it is to us to see change in our lifetimes. Many of us were the same way with Ron Paul, and will continue to give "god-worthy praise" to anyone who can bring the world closer to the free utopia we dream of. Once we get there, hopefully you will finally understand why we were so passionate about Silk Road.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: oldcactushand on April 27, 2013, 09:19 am
I love the Silk Road and think DPR and crew are doing an awesome thing, and they're doing it incredibly well. That said, I'm no believer in libertarianism (sorry guys!). I have different ideas about how this site will effect society, and they are probably more modest and perhaps disappointing to DPR and those who understand his philosophy. But whatever, I think it will change things for the better, even if I don't think it will lead to the radical change I'd like to see (or the radical change DPR would like to see).

One 'worry' (I don't actually worry about this) I have is that I think many will read the charter and find it to be simple "common sense" and will not really see the radicalism in it. This is not at all a criticism of the charter, just a hunch really. I would have been interested to read the full version, but oh well.

@indigo - I agree it is more than people simply "doing business", there is a great community here with people quite selflessly helping one another on a regular basis. Do you and/or DPR (and/or whoever else might be involved) think SR is likely to lead to some sort of social/political movement? And if you're not snowed under with work, feel free to elaborate! Not trying to be combative, just genuinely interested in your views.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: wackmanblu on April 27, 2013, 01:36 pm
Well that version of the charter is actually shortened and refined a bit from the original one that I saw that inspired me so much, but still. It's obvious you guys don't share the same voluntarism ideals that I do, and because of that you'll never understand why this site is so significant in the way that those of us in the freedom movement do. You may not share my passion and you clearly don't see the historical significance of this organization, but that's okay. You can look at us as "just a drug website" all you want, but I promise you that history books will reflect my sentiments and not yours. We are dedicating every waking moment of our lives to freeing mankind from oppression, and even though we are just getting started we have already done more to alter the future of civilization then most of you could ever hope to achieve in 10 lifetimes. But go ahead, brush us off as worthless nobodies. You enjoy your slavery.

I guess I just don't see the significance inigo does. What I see are people becoming overly excited by what amounts to a few statements of principle and equating it to the Magna Carta or the US Declaration of Independence. But to lose sleep, claim the future of civilization will be changed, free humankind from oppression ... really? This is how radicalization starts. unbending adherence to some statements that will supposedly make everything in the world "good" 

I'm glad that DPR has clearly stated the beliefs of the site. I mostly agree with them, they seem self evident.The fact is though we are not deeply oppressed in the western world, for the most part we live freely, we are more privileged than any people at any time in history. We live better than kings before us. We have 50 different choices of toothpaste. If we want to tweak society and move it more into line with our beliefs this is entirely possible without a revolution. 
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: boosties on April 27, 2013, 02:06 pm
LOVE IT! ive always governed myself by these same principles. thats why i LOVE SR!!!
DPR's passion and the community of sr is awesome! IMO none of the other sites can hold a
candle to it!! LONG LIVE SR!! the best market in the world!
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 27, 2013, 02:25 pm
Well that version of the charter is actually shortened and refined a bit from the original one that I saw that inspired me so much, but still. It's obvious you guys don't share the same voluntarism ideals that I do, and because of that you'll never understand why this site is so significant in the way that those of us in the freedom movement do. You may not share my passion and you clearly don't see the historical significance of this organization, but that's okay. You can look at us as "just a drug website" all you want, but I promise you that history books will reflect my sentiments and not yours. We are dedicating every waking moment of our lives to freeing mankind from oppression, and even though we are just getting started we have already done more to alter the future of civilization then most of you could ever hope to achieve in 10 lifetimes. But go ahead, brush us off as worthless nobodies. You enjoy your slavery.

I will add, that I completely understand the sycophancy toward DPR may be a little off-putting to a lot of you. But that's just a manifestation of how passionate we are about our beliefs, and how important it is to us to see change in our lifetimes. Many of us were the same way with Ron Paul, and will continue to give "god-worthy praise" to anyone who can bring the world closer to the free utopia we dream of. Once we get there, hopefully you will finally understand why we were so passionate about Silk Road.
I have said it before. We are privy to be part of such an amazing piece of history. The Silk Road changes the game. Ripping the shackles off.

Yes in a way DPR is like a god because he brought such freedom to us. Ridicule me for praising this genius, but it is only in your short sighted stupidity.

Long live the road and all that it stands for,

You and I inigo are in the same boat with the people who think past the imprisonments of the world.
Chaos
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: DanDanTheIceCreamMan on April 27, 2013, 05:25 pm
I'm a part of history and all I wanted to do was take mushrooms and eat icecream!  8) One more step towards freedom. DPR and crew are true revolutionaries.
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: Bungee54 on April 27, 2013, 08:33 pm

I dunno, these comments seem kind of .. silly. This is a drug website, People here buy dope, of course they'll be behind anything that makes that happen. 
While I admire the site founders and their free spirit of enterprise, they are not Gods, this place should not become some kind of shrine to political ideals. It is only another place where we do what we're not suppose to do (according to law) and get away with it. Ultimately, this is just a community of people doing business.

I share some fairly personal bonds with the people here that frankly I wouldn't trade for anything.

You can find help for addiction here.
You can get qualified medical and legal advice.
You can learn about all types of things on computers encryption, anonymity ect..
You can get more positive vibes in the +Karma thread than you can irl.
You can learn here...
This is A LOT more than a "community of people doing business."

Not to mention,  & obviously the politics behind it work pretty fucking well considering we are all still here, and honestly I am flourishing.

2nd this !  Long live the Road & Free Enterprise !
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on April 27, 2013, 10:51 pm
Well that version of the charter is actually shortened and refined a bit from the original one that I saw that inspired me so much, but still. It's obvious you guys don't share the same voluntarism ideals that I do, and because of that you'll never understand why this site is so significant in the way that those of us in the freedom movement do. You may not share my passion and you clearly don't see the historical significance of this organization, but that's okay. You can look at us as "just a drug website" all you want, but I promise you that history books will reflect my sentiments and not yours. We are dedicating every waking moment of our lives to freeing mankind from oppression, and even though we are just getting started we have already done more to alter the future of civilization then most of you could ever hope to achieve in 10 lifetimes. But go ahead, brush us off as worthless nobodies. You enjoy your slavery.

I guess I just don't see the significance inigo does. What I see are people becoming overly excited by what amounts to a few statements of principle and equating it to the Magna Carta or the US Declaration of Independence. But to lose sleep, claim the future of civilization will be changed, free humankind from oppression ... really? This is how radicalization starts. unbending adherence to some statements that will supposedly make everything in the world "good" 

I'm glad that DPR has clearly stated the beliefs of the site. I mostly agree with them, they seem self evident.The fact is though we are not deeply oppressed in the western world, for the most part we live freely, we are more privileged than any people at any time in history. We live better than kings before us. We have 50 different choices of toothpaste. If we want to tweak society and move it more into line with our beliefs this is entirely possible without a revolution.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: nitpi950 on April 27, 2013, 10:55 pm
all good except for the self-ownership bullshit. People are not property
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: AllDayLong on April 28, 2013, 12:57 am
Well that version of the charter is actually shortened and refined a bit from the original one that I saw that inspired me so much, but still. It's obvious you guys don't share the same voluntarism ideals that I do, and because of that you'll never understand why this site is so significant in the way that those of us in the freedom movement do. You may not share my passion and you clearly don't see the historical significance of this organization, but that's okay. You can look at us as "just a drug website" all you want, but I promise you that history books will reflect my sentiments and not yours. We are dedicating every waking moment of our lives to freeing mankind from oppression, and even though we are just getting started we have already done more to alter the future of civilization then most of you could ever hope to achieve in 10 lifetimes. But go ahead, brush us off as worthless nobodies. You enjoy your slavery.

I will add, that I completely understand the sycophancy toward DPR may be a little off-putting to a lot of you. But that's just a manifestation of how passionate we are about our beliefs, and how important it is to us to see change in our lifetimes. Many of us were the same way with Ron Paul, and will continue to give "god-worthy praise" to anyone who can bring the world closer to the free utopia we dream of. Once we get there, hopefully you will finally understand why we were so passionate about Silk Road.

Interesting reposnse, and I didn't mean to come off like a dick. I'm not sure what voluntarism is so I guess I probably don't share those ideals. I guess I also don't share your passion but I mean, very few do as much as you and DPR so hey.

With that said, it makes me very happy that you guys believe in this so strongly and it's not just about money. I really hope I can live to see much more freedom, but we'll see!
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: itsthecops on April 28, 2013, 01:38 am
C'mon guys . . . A little fanaticism is fun don't you think. ?
Lets have fun with it if you can't take it seriously. Either way, we should have a mission statement so we refer t
The document during hard times.  It will guide

People are afraid to share ideals or proudly state them i guess .  I'm a patriot
It's not a ducking scripture relax. 

Now when the media comes , we can direct them to this document.  It's a good and handy document to have on file here.   

Besides., this is a war and we are all soldiers in it.  We are not here to make friends and share family photos!  We are here because we share a common set of ideals. 
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 28, 2013, 01:39 am
C'mon guys . . . A little fanaticism is fun don't you think. ?
Lets have fun with it if you can't take it seriously. Either way, we should have a mission statement so we refer t
The document during hard times.  It will guide

People are afraid to share ideals or proudly state them i guess .  I'm a patriot
It's not a ducking scripture relax. 

Now when the media comes , we can direct them to this document.  It's a good and handy document to have on file here.   

Besides., this is a war and we are all soldiers in it.  We are not here to make friends and share family photos!  We are here because we share a common set of ideals.
I'd bet you wrote that on an iPhone.

Chaos
Title: Re: Dread Pirate Roberts: Silk Road Charter
Post by: pakchoi23 on April 28, 2013, 11:09 pm
Well that version of the charter is actually shortened and refined a bit from the original one that I saw that inspired me so much, but still. It's obvious you guys don't share the same voluntarism ideals that I do, and because of that you'll never understand why this site is so significant in the way that those of us in the freedom movement do. You may not share my passion and you clearly don't see the historical significance of this organization, but that's okay. You can look at us as "just a drug website" all you want, but I promise you that history books will reflect my sentiments and not yours. We are dedicating every waking moment of our lives to freeing mankind from oppression, and even though we are just getting started we have already done more to alter the future of civilization then most of you could ever hope to achieve in 10 lifetimes. But go ahead, brush us off as worthless nobodies. You enjoy your slavery.

I will add, that I completely understand the sycophancy toward DPR may be a little off-putting to a lot of you. But that's just a manifestation of how passionate we are about our beliefs, and how important it is to us to see change in our lifetimes. Many of us were the same way with Ron Paul, and will continue to give "god-worthy praise" to anyone who can bring the world closer to the free utopia we dream of. Once we get there, hopefully you will finally understand why we were so passionate about Silk Road.

+1


I guess it all comes down to why you take drugs and how you view the status quo that is society. Anything that runs underground and enhances peoples chances of taking good drugs is AOK by me.

But then I'm probably just a big old hippy who had some of that good acid...