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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: jonsito44 on April 01, 2013, 08:29 pm

Title: Under Surveillance?
Post by: jonsito44 on April 01, 2013, 08:29 pm
If a person is only a buyer of small amount of drugs for personal use, can you still be a target to be under surveillance?
A friend of mine doesn't want to get out of her house because she knows she's being watched but she needs to buy btc with her cash so she can get her drug since she's an addict.

Any opinions/suggestions will be considered thank you
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: Kinetic on April 01, 2013, 08:34 pm
I suspect that this depends greatly upon which country you live in...
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: zener on April 01, 2013, 08:36 pm
if your under surveillance its certainly not for purchasing drugs. sounds like paranoia to me.
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: jonsito44 on April 01, 2013, 08:43 pm
United States

She knew she was under surveillance because of cars stopping in front of her house and other cars watching her house with bionculars from couple streets away.

Is purchasing okay then?
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: jonsito44 on April 01, 2013, 08:53 pm
Is this person REALLY sure she is being watched or is she just smoking too much JWH?    shit i used to always think i was being watched when i smoked that shit lol

lol

But she really is sure, 100%, i have witnessed them also and so has the whole neighborhood.
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: wwizard on April 01, 2013, 08:56 pm
If you guys aren't doing meth or any other drug like that then maybe she's being watched.. But what would she have done? If her addiction is to meth then she's probably being paranoid.
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: Mr Shakur on April 01, 2013, 08:58 pm
If a person is only a buyer of small amount of drugs for personal use, can you still be a target to be under surveillance?
A friend of mine doesn't want to get out of her house because she knows she's being watched but she needs to buy btc with her cash so she can get her drug since she's an addict.

Any opinions/suggestions will be considered thank you

Dear Hermano,
Fear not this is most likely paranoia, unless your friend is living life with scenes of mass delivery of some high classing drugs I strongly doubt that you are being watched. Mainly because it will cost thousands to do this type of surveillance, it will then take thousands to go to court, then a lot more thousands in Jail Times, all to get a convictions of an Addict get her fix to stay well................ It wont happen, even if it did the Media would fucking love that story to further show the War on Drugs should in itself be FUCKING ILLEGAL.
Anyway to prove it was you who ordered Illicit goods is also adding to the thousands, making the state pot 100k+ to get a conviction for hundreds. Anyway you can either take my advice or not, I could be wrong, I am not your Legal Adviser. But good luck.
Peace     
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: jonsito44 on April 01, 2013, 09:22 pm
Thank you everyone for your opinions, I will print this out and show this to her so her paranoia goes down.

I will also tell her to do the Box trick also
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: jentyb on April 01, 2013, 09:24 pm
Lmao troll thread or you two are highly paranoid how is she seeing people watching her from two streets away with binoculars lol. Bottom line is she isn't being watched and if she is she's not being watched for drugs
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: nameviolated on April 01, 2013, 09:46 pm
Have to agree that I seriously doubt she is on the radar unless she has ordered bulk or deals on the side to feed her habit.  If their watching her they would also be watching her mail IMO.
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on April 01, 2013, 09:53 pm
United States

She knew she was under surveillance because of cars stopping in front of her house and other cars watching her house with bionculars from couple streets away.

Is purchasing okay then?

You are asking is it ok to buy drugs when you have the police outside your house watching you with binoculars right?

Really?

This is a troll thread yeah?
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: Icon on April 01, 2013, 10:55 pm
The fundamental flaw with paranoia is that you never know what events were transpiring before that person became paranoid. Know what I mean???

For example, lets say you have an older cell phone (like not a smart phone) and every once in awhile when you dial someone after there is a click sound. Before being paranoid you don't even pay attention to it. After you become paranoid you think that little click sound could be when a program from your cell provider has now started recording your calls. Then you being to think that they are recoding your calls because you used certain keywords that a program would recognize and then grouped you into "record this person's calls because they could be a potential law breaker."

(Side Note) On you tube there are presentations from the hacking convention in Las Vegas. Where a software engineer who helped to develop these key word type programs talks about how they are used. Really interesting stuff. Basically they do collect a lot of information, but depending on the cell provider you have the rules for how police get this information is different for each carrier.

If this person sees people sitting in police like cars watching her house, you should totally verify this. Don't just take his/her word for it. Paranoia distorts everything, you think the whole world is paying attention to you. If you do visit this person and you don't see anything out of the ordinary then your dealing with a nut. If you do see police types in unmarked cars then this person should just flush everything, end of story. I would also put distance between myself and this person because they might compromise yourself.
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: nuggets5 on April 01, 2013, 11:00 pm
SO she is under surveillance for small personal amounts of drugs??

And she is so addicted she has to have more? She needs help my friend, and tell her to get out the house, that just looks sketch someone just not leaving. gee troll
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: Jediknight on April 01, 2013, 11:32 pm
Why waste everyone's time ?

Get your lazy ass out there and score some dope for yur friend !   
Why don't yo do it for her ?  She can't type?  Fingers cut off from not paying her drug tab?   Too high to type herself?

Why would you order drugs to a house being watched ? C'mon .  Are you that slow or just a little 'tarded?

Nobody is watching anybody.  She is lonely and wants to there with her and to help her buy drugs for her.   What do to get out of the deal?  Risk of getting caught?  A BJ?  A toke of her drugs?

A Real friend would go out and Score on the street for her you lazy ass.


I love this.  It's good exercise for my typing on a phone. 
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: Tabletter on April 02, 2013, 03:32 am
I would lay low for a bit... They may be watching...... better put on a tin foil hat and bar the windows.
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 02, 2013, 03:47 am
If they are watching your house they are going through your mail.
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: Green Haze on April 02, 2013, 04:20 am
If there is still a question of "should I still buy", then the addiction has taken hold. Which in turn tells me that paranoia has also taken hold. If it was me, and someone was watching me from outside my house, I would be very polite, knock on their car window, and say this " I and my community have noticed you here for a while and it is starting to feel like an invasion of my privacy and safety. " Make them aware that you are aware and not someone they can bully around. If it persists, just tip your hat at them and wave. They will get tired of watching someone that is producing no results. Which I should hope you aren't giving them. 8)
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: lemongrabber on April 02, 2013, 07:16 am
I don't mean to sound like a dick, but I shouldn't have to remind everyone that purchasing through SR is a federal offense do to the transportation of illicit substances through the mail... I don't think that people making small purchases should be as worried compared to those buying bulk, but this is pretty big shit either way you look at it... The way I look at it... If I am being watched.... I've already made multiple purchases... I've been a member for 6months so far and it's definitely more than what could legally be considered for "personal" use.... I'm already fucked and its too late to go back... We're all adults (I assume) and we've all made this decision ourselves... Take you're weight, or don't take at all...
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: demiliumm on April 02, 2013, 08:08 am
I don't mean to sound like a dick, but I shouldn't have to remind everyone that purchasing through SR is a federal offense do to the transportation of illicit substances through the mail... I don't think that people making small purchases should be as worried compared to those buying bulk, but this is pretty big shit either way you look at it... The way I look at it... If I am being watched.... I've already made multiple purchases... I've been a member for 6months so far and it's definitely more than what could legally be considered for "personal" use.... I'm already fucked and its too late to go back... We're all adults (I assume) and we've all made this decision ourselves... Take you're weight, or don't take at all...

this. is the probably the best post i've seen on the road yet. couldnt of put it better myself. kudos.
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: lemongrabber on April 02, 2013, 08:48 pm
I don't mean to sound like a dick, but I shouldn't have to remind everyone that purchasing through SR is a federal offense do to the transportation of illicit substances through the mail... I don't think that people making small purchases should be as worried compared to those buying bulk, but this is pretty big shit either way you look at it... The way I look at it... If I am being watched.... I've already made multiple purchases... I've been a member for 6months so far and it's definitely more than what could legally be considered for "personal" use.... I'm already fucked and its too late to go back... We're all adults (I assume) and we've all made this decision ourselves... Take you're weight, or don't take at all...

this. is the probably the best post i've seen on the road yet. couldnt of put it better myself. kudos.

Thanks bud... Sometimes people don't understand the law only sees black and white...
Title: Re: Under Surveillance?
Post by: CRWHITLOCK on April 02, 2013, 09:10 pm
Saying "she knows she's being watched" sounds very suspect to me. The whole point of LE surveillance is so the subject of investigation doesn't know that LE are watching them. Care to share any insight into how she "knows" she is being watched?  The likelihood that your friend is under LE surveillance as a small time "user" is very slim. If she is dealing to support her habit, that's a whole different story. If she receives a lot of packages in the mail that have drawn suspicion, they would probably just get a warrant to open one of the packs and then either seize it or set up a controlled delivery. If the amounts she's ordering are small, personal usage numbers, it's very unlikely LE would waste their time on her. That being said, you didn't provide enough details for anyone to give you a very accurate opinion on what's going on. I would suggest your friend is either paranoid, or selling to pay for her habit. To think she is under active surveillance for strictly "using illegal substances" is not rational.