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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: Chaosforpeace on March 29, 2013, 07:57 pm
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I recently ordered a few ounces of weed from a vendor on here. I thought it was great so I went back and bought a whole pound. Now a few of my customers are telling me the shit is sprayed with either a solvent or jwh.
They say this because the weed sparkles apparently. Someone lit up a bowl in front of me and the weed actually sparkled. Is this an indicator of sprayed weed?
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idk about the sparking but i know of a vender that did this.. and i will never buy from him again..
here is the link for the stuff they put on the weed.. i used to do it long before the road when i sold mids.. would put this shit on there and it would taste different and smell
fruity.. dumb kids on here dont even know about it so when they buy some weed that is blueberry and it smells like this shit.. they think its good weed.. fucking noobs.. then the vender gets good feedback even tho hes a scumbag... here is the link
******clearnet warning****
http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/tasty-puff-tobacco-flavouring.cfm
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****GASP****
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idk about the sparking but i know of a vender that did this.. and i will never buy from him again..
here is the link for the stuff they put on the weed.. i used to do it long before the road when i sold mids.. would put this shit on there and it would taste different and smell
fruity.. dumb kids on here dont even know about it so when they buy some weed that is blueberry and it smells like this shit.. they think its good weed.. fucking noobs.. then the vender gets good feedback even tho hes a scumbag... here is the link
******clearnet warning****
http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/tasty-puff-tobacco-flavouring.cfm
Could you PM me the name of that vendor so I don't make a mistake of buying from them.
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Do tell I dont want to buy sprayed weed, bought some before from silk road and you see it all the time even in Amsterdam.
nothing but robbers
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I don't want to say the name to anyone because what if this vendor is legit?
I heard hydro outdoor sometime sparkles if not grown right towards the end.
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Sparkling could be from something as simple as not flushing properly.
What you need to do is get a 25-50x scope (ideally) and if it's sprayed you will notice glass like substance on your buds.
If it's not sprayed it will just have your normal trichomes visible which you can google for a accurate image of that.
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Wait, are you talking about sparks/sparking or sparkling? Because good weed is supposed to sparkle, due to being loaded with trichomes which are the glands containing the yummy resin that gets you high.
Sparking on the other hand is usually a sign of excess nutrients being left in the bud due to not being flushed properly towards the end of the grow cycle.
Hope this helps
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+1 This ^^^^
:)
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in the UK a few years ago there was an influx of 'sprayed' cannabis. some of it had sugar syrup on it which when dried added weight, other bud was gritty and you could feel the 'crystals' like dust. some research into the subject and it was found out that it was microscopic silica dust, blown onto the plants while growing. adding huge added weight to grows.
eventually after a few months it dissapeard. im sure its still about on some base level street dealers menu somewhere though.
END PROHIBITION.
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it makes me sick that people would do that, A few years ago a mate was in a grow house and saw them crushing glass & putting them into the flowers around week 5 so by the time when its week 8-9 (harvest time) the bud has grow over the glass
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idk about the sparking but i know of a vender that did this.. and i will never buy from him again..
here is the link for the stuff they put on the weed.. i used to do it long before the road when i sold mids.. would put this shit on there and it would taste different and smell
fruity.. dumb kids on here dont even know about it so when they buy some weed that is blueberry and it smells like this shit.. they think its good weed.. fucking noobs.. then the vender gets good feedback even tho hes a scumbag... here is the link
******clearnet warning****
http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/tasty-puff-tobacco-flavouring.cfm
Tasty Puff is a harmless flavouring and has nothing to do with sprayed weed :)
Weed is sprayed to add weight, one commercial product is called Brix Plus
http://www.amazon.com/Green-Planet-Nutrients-Specialized-Carbohydrates/dp/B0077KT47G
This stuffs bad enough, but there's similar products that contain plastics and all manner of nasty stuff.
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I had we'd that sparked and flared up. It was too much fertilizer and not flushed and also spider mite bodies and eggs. Sometime infestation of spider mites makes the weed do strange things but too much fertilizer always burns the lips when smoking it and burns fast and hot.
I would be surprised anyone would add something to weed. I mean c'mon now. It would make bad feedback and vendor rating. Who would chance it? Just for weed? I think it's something else .
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i don't know... nl based vendor djabbar has sold vast quantities of sprayed weed on here in the past. i'm not sure if he's still a vendor but he mentioned the fact it was sprayed in the listing not the title. he claimed it was not harmful and just added weight. i never bought that, literally or figuratively.
is the ash hard and black? does it not burn right? if so i'm going to say bad flush is the most innocent of explanations. sprayed or contaminated is also possible. either way it's not what it's supposed to be so you should really name the vendor unless you're still negotiating or something.
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That's a shitty thing to do..
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it makes me sick that people would do that, A few years ago a mate was in a grow house and saw them crushing glass & putting them into the flowers around week 5 so by the time when its week 8-9 (harvest time) the bud has grow over the glass
... huh? Why would anyone do this? It makes no sense, it's like saying "My friend saw some guy put razor blades in his production line of pillows so that when people bought them THEY'D BE CUT !"
Why on earth would anyone go out of their way to put crushed glass in weed?
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... huh? Why would anyone do this? It makes no sense, it's like saying "My friend saw some guy put razor blades in his production line of pillows so that when people bought them THEY'D BE CUT !"
Why on earth would anyone go out of their way to put crushed glass in weed?
Because thats how they add the weight to the buds. They crush glass really fine then spray it on.
That's why I said to check it under a loop because magnified you can see if it's sprayed or not.
Only cash cropper assholes do this by the way.
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it's just for higher profit margins and a complete disregard for health of users in an unregulated black market.
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Don't buy from that vendor again, and rate him 1/5 immediately.
It's debatable how common this is, but it definitely exists. There's a LOT of shit weed on the silk road. It works because our median age is probably ~18 and we're a VERY uninformed consumer base. Also buying sight unseen. Prohibition is an awful thing.
I want you guys to be very very skeptical of any and all things you buy on the silk road, and stop being so liberal with your 5/5s. It makes it really hard to tell who's deserving of the 5. If you give all 5/5s or all rave reviews, then your reviews and recommendations mean very little. 8)
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idk about the sparking but i know of a vender that did this.. and i will never buy from him again..
here is the link for the stuff they put on the weed.. i used to do it long before the road when i sold mids.. would put this shit on there and it would taste different and smell
fruity.. dumb kids on here dont even know about it so when they buy some weed that is blueberry and it smells like this shit.. they think its good weed.. fucking noobs.. then the vender gets good feedback even tho hes a scumbag... here is the link
******clearnet warning****
http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/tasty-puff-tobacco-flavouring.cfm
Tasty Puff is a harmless flavouring and has nothing to do with sprayed weed :)
Weed is sprayed to add weight, one commercial product is called Brix Plus
http://www.amazon.com/Green-Planet-Nutrients-Specialized-Carbohydrates/dp/B0077KT47G
This stuffs bad enough, but there's similar products that contain plastics and all manner of nasty stuff.
cool story bro..
who said it was???..
i was sharing my isolated situation with a vender and i know for a fact that is what they used..
and i never said they sprayed anything and i never said it was harmful. i said that they put shit on it so it would smell good.. EVER HAD WEED THAT HAS NO SMELL? OR IS MOLDY?
YEAH those drops work for that.. they dont add weight they just make it smell..
never had a vender do that spray shit ur talking about.. but all i know is the vender i fucked with def. put them drops on the weed cuz i know the smell and thats just dumb..
the weed was ok looking but it smelt so bad of that shit that it was unbearable...
got my money back from selling it for what i got it for and am never fuckin with dude again..
if weed does not have a smell then state so in the listing i know plenty of venders that do that and they sell it for less..
they dont fucking put fake drops on it and call it blueberry kush and claim it smells dank!! haha..
anyways .. if yall like shit tier weed with drops on it dont complain but i would rather deal with venders that got that real cali fire shit.. NO BS DROPS OR SPRAY NEEDED.. there is plenty of them so KEEP IT REAL is all im saying..
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Unfortunately without a microscope there's no way I can find out if the shit is sprayed.
I'm not fucking anyone's buisness over without being sure that its sprayed.
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Unfortunately without a microscope there's no way I can find out if the shit is sprayed.
I'm not fucking anyone's buisness over without being sure that its sprayed.
If it sparks in the bowl, what else do you need to know? Weed doesn't spark when you light it. That, on my scale, is a pretty offensive level of poor quality.
When I get that's bad, I don't resell it to break even, I eat the loss. Bad business.
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As a medical grower/smoker of over 20 years, I can attest from personal experience that "sparkling" weed can be produced by several factors, but by far the most common two causes in my experience are
#1 Phosphorous. One of the three "macro" nutrients our beautiful ladies use to grow. If too much Phosphorous is used and not thoroughly flushed you get a very acrid flavor and a weed that can spark, Phosphorous is is used in flares too lol
#2 Insects, of which Spider Mites are the most common. A heavy spider mite infestation will cause a very sparkly effect when burned due to all the little insect bodies popping and burning. if you use a scope you can see those nasty little Borg fuckers!
There are different things people spray on to increase weight, usually sugar based solutions. You could always take a bud and water cure it and see what comes off it, that'll give you some idea and it might make it more smokeable if the problem is phosphorous!
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#2 Insects, of which Spider Mites are the most common. A heavy spider mite infestation will cause a very sparkly effect when burned due to all the little insect bodies popping and burning. if you use a scope you can see those nasty little Borg fuckers!
That sounds rather unappealing....
Does bug infested weed affect the high noticeably?
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Yeah, I lost an entire crop once to spider mites, was disgusting, they turn the entire plant from the inside out into a giant hive nest of web. The weed was nasty, I normally sell my herb for top dollar locally but that harvest i turned the entire thing into bubble hash to get rid of those fuckers. It doesn't effect the high at all, but depending on the density it will definitely effect flavor. burning heavily infested bud looks almost like those little snake puck things people get for the fourth of July that you light on fire and they grow into snakes while they burn. The bud will just sort of spark and sizzle. Very depressing to see great quality herb taken over by the Borg :(. The only thing about it that is more unappealing than smoking thousands of those little fuckers is using a 30x+ scope on the weed and watching those hideously ugly little fuckers walking around on the bud. They are just BARELY visible to the naked eye and only if you really know what to look for, although a heavy infestation you can look at what parts of the leaves were left on during trimming and possibly see damage from them there depending on the level of infestation.
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I wonder how profitable and difficult it would be to GE weed that is totally resistant to diseases and infestations without compromising the quality of the herb...
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... huh? Why would anyone do this? It makes no sense, it's like saying "My friend saw some guy put razor blades in his production line of pillows so that when people bought them THEY'D BE CUT !"
Why on earth would anyone go out of their way to put crushed glass in weed?
Because thats how they add the weight to the buds. They crush glass really fine then spray it on.
That's why I said to check it under a loop because magnified you can see if it's sprayed or not.
Only cash cropper assholes do this by the way.
This sounds pretty fuckin paranoid. If the farmer wanted to add weight to his buds he could just sell them a bit under-cured. No need to add glass. It seems that adding glass would take waaaay more effort for absolutely no real payoff.
What next ... moon landings weren't real?
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Do tell I dont want to buy sprayed weed, bought some before from silk road and you see it all the time even in Amsterdam.
nothing but robbers
I hear most commercial weed in NL is sprayed with jwh or similar.
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... huh? Why would anyone do this? It makes no sense, it's like saying "My friend saw some guy put razor blades in his production line of pillows so that when people bought them THEY'D BE CUT !"
Why on earth would anyone go out of their way to put crushed glass in weed?
Because thats how they add the weight to the buds. They crush glass really fine then spray it on.
That's why I said to check it under a loop because magnified you can see if it's sprayed or not.
Only cash cropper assholes do this by the way.
This sounds pretty fuckin paranoid. If the farmer wanted to add weight to his buds he could just sell them a bit under-cured. No need to add glass. It seems that adding glass would take waaaay more effort for absolutely no real payoff.
What next ... moon landings weren't real?
it was sand was in the u,k about 5-6 years ago was even a warning on t.v aout it Google contaminated weed uk !!
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Hello everyone :),
As a grower for over 25 years and a vender here on SR,,,,,I will give you my thoughts on this issue. It all comes down to "what do you really want to do"/ Growing Indoor Dank....is not easy....not at all....my room is
'clean green certified".....Gets inspected and re-certified every year.....the program i am in requires the grower to keep very accurate records as what is used to grow, pick from a approved list of OMRI approved products,
it the Marijuana's version of organic.....since the word "organic" is owned by the federal government...and requires very specific guidelines to become a 'certified organic farmer"..you have to pay a large fee and then pass all
inspections of soil....tissue samples of existing plants and all nutrients used in growing....the cost to be a "organic grower" is huge.....since Marijuana is not a federally approved plant "it can never be deemed organic....so the program "clean green certified" was born by a group of "organic USDA inspectors" for the medical marijuana market......currently there are less than 100 growers in the program.....for more information "Google clean green marijuana".........any way.........no synthetic nutrients are allowed....of any kind....no sprays that are not OMRI certified .....none of that stuff that .makes you weed spark......it's a program where the grower takes great care in growing
the safest medical marijuana that can be grown......the learning curve is huge......and the yield is lower......but when dialed in....the best Marijuana in the world.
For me the biggest problem.......people are only concerned with price....quality is second.........and there are lots of growers that will spray....very harmful chemicals on their crop to fight bugs.......I was hired last season to consult with some real big farms....i personally saw crops being sprayed with "a bleach solution" & DDT......they men were in the white space suits....I ran over and asked what are you spraying this for....and they said "we are not going to smoke it"....so we do not care....... :-[........I could not believe it.
All I can say is....."you get what you pay for".....if you want cheap weed...be aware.......if you want high quality...be prepared to pay top dollar for it......
It's a easy choice for me.....i want the best....and I want to grow the best for my customers........
my 02. cents
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I would never sell weed to anyone real-life, when it comes to weed for me it's just so important that my product is the best there is, so fuck off if you put glass in it - would you smoke that urself? So greedy, making this fantastic beast plant into glassballs or something toxic and nasty, just no, do this with heroine instead or whatever :p
-JUR 8)
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Don't buy from that vendor again, and rate him 1/5 immediately.
It's debatable how common this is, but it definitely exists. There's a LOT of shit weed on the silk road. It works because our median age is probably ~18 and we're a VERY uninformed consumer base. Also buying sight unseen. Prohibition is an awful thing.
I want you guys to be very very skeptical of any and all things you buy on the silk road, and stop being so liberal with your 5/5s. It makes it really hard to tell who's deserving of the 5. If you give all 5/5s or all rave reviews, then your reviews and recommendations mean very little. 8)
No, no, no. I disagree with that. Vendor rating is not for product review. You buys yo shit, you gets yo, shit. 5/5. That's really all there is too it. I just want to know if the vendor ships consistently what's ordered. For you to use the vendor rating as a product review makes no sense and encourages buyers to finalize well after they test out the stuff. You finalize on delivery.
And you wonder why vendors have become so hard ass these days wanting even some veteran buyers to finalize early.
Then after you have time to test it out, give it a good run, roll it around. THEN YOU COME TO THE FORUM and post a review, ask questions, debate quality. Fuck the over excited newbs who fail to do research on the forum before buying. There's so much info on vendors and their products here that most disappointment can be avoided if one spends some time and reads up.
Otherwise, ignorant newbs thinking they know something, will be doling out 1/5s because they didn't like the way the box looked. Nevermind that they got what they paid for and quickly too.
DEAR NEWBS: 5/5 if you receive what you bought even if a few days late. 1/5 if you didn't. You get yo shit, look at it, count it or weigh it, then finalize. You don't wait until you try it out to finalize. What? If you don't like it or its not what you expected you think leaving a 1/5 or less than 5/5 is going to make the vendor bend over to please you? Only new vendors might because they worry about their rating. But then that's called rating blackmail. And it's a dick thing to do. Veteran vendors will tell you to fuck off.
And you know what else a vendor can do? They can stealth the listing that you left your 1/5 review on and then no one sees it. You wasted your fucking time. The vendor can start a new listing in place of the one he stealthed. But on the forum, the vendor has no power to redact or delete what you took time to post. HE either has to face it or ignore it.
But, if you come to the community and speak up about a vendor's product, all of a sudden a bunch of buyers will come out of the woodwork agreeing or disagreeing with you and we can all as a community get to the bottom of things and even recommend better vendors that you might have missed or overlooked. That's the beauty of the forums.
Remember, you buy it, it comes, about the quantity or weight advertized - 5/5. It doesn't come, 1/5. 4/5, 3/5, 2/5 those are for professional use only. And I've been here about 18 months or so and never once left one of those. Using those makes you look like a nit-picking ninny prissy bitch. True story.
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Nicely put...... :)
Don't buy from that vendor again, and rate him 1/5 immediately.
It's debatable how common this is, but it definitely exists. There's a LOT of shit weed on the silk road. It works because our median age is probably ~18 and we're a VERY uninformed consumer base. Also buying sight unseen. Prohibition is an awful thing.
I want you guys to be very very skeptical of any and all things you buy on the silk road, and stop being so liberal with your 5/5s. It makes it really hard to tell who's deserving of the 5. If you give all 5/5s or all rave reviews, then your reviews and recommendations mean very little. 8)
No, no, no. I disagree with that. Vendor rating is not for product review. You buys yo shit, you gets yo, shit. 5/5. That's really all there is too it. I just want to know if the vendor ships consistently what's ordered. For you to use the vendor rating as a product review makes no sense and encourages buyers to finalize well after they test out the stuff. You finalize on delivery.
And you wonder why vendors have become so hard ass these days wanting even some veteran buyers to finalize early.
Then after you have time to test it out, give it a good run, roll it around. THEN YOU COME TO THE FORUM and post a review, ask questions, debate quality. Fuck the over excited newbs who fail to do research on the forum before buying. There's so much info on vendors and their products here that most disappointment can be avoided if one spends some time and reads up.
Otherwise, ignorant newbs thinking they know something, will be doling out 1/5s because they didn't like the way the box looked. Nevermind that they got what they paid for and quickly too.
DEAR NEWBS: 5/5 if you receive what you bought even if a few days late. 1/5 if you didn't. You get yo shit, look at it, count it or weigh it, then finalize. You don't wait until you try it out to finalize. What? If you don't like it or its not what you expected you think leaving a 1/5 or less than 5/5 is going to make the vendor bend over to please you? Only new vendors might because they worry about their rating. But then that's called rating blackmail. And it's a dick thing to do. Veteran vendors will tell you to fuck off.
And you know what else a vendor can do? They can stealth the listing that you left your 1/5 review on and then no one sees it. You wasted your fucking time. The vendor can start a new listing in place of the one he stealthed. But on the forum, the vendor has no power to redact or delete what you took time to post. HE either has to face it or ignore it.
But, if you come to the community and speak up about a vendor's product, all of a sudden a bunch of buyers will come out of the woodwork agreeing or disagreeing with you and we can all as a community get to the bottom of things and even recommend better vendors that you might have missed or overlooked. That's the beauty of the forums.
Remember, you buy it, it comes, about the quantity or weight advertized - 5/5. It doesn't come, 1/5. 4/5, 3/5, 2/5 those are for professional use only. And I've been here about 18 months or so and never once left one of those. Using those makes you look like a nit-picking ninny prissy bitch. True story.
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+1, I wish more buyers realized this.
Don't buy from that vendor again, and rate him 1/5 immediately.
It's debatable how common this is, but it definitely exists. There's a LOT of shit weed on the silk road. It works because our median age is probably ~18 and we're a VERY uninformed consumer base. Also buying sight unseen. Prohibition is an awful thing.
I want you guys to be very very skeptical of any and all things you buy on the silk road, and stop being so liberal with your 5/5s. It makes it really hard to tell who's deserving of the 5. If you give all 5/5s or all rave reviews, then your reviews and recommendations mean very little. 8)
No, no, no. I disagree with that. Vendor rating is not for product review. You buys yo shit, you gets yo, shit. 5/5. That's really all there is too it. I just want to know if the vendor ships consistently what's ordered. For you to use the vendor rating as a product review makes no sense and encourages buyers to finalize well after they test out the stuff. You finalize on delivery.
And you wonder why vendors have become so hard ass these days wanting even some veteran buyers to finalize early.
Then after you have time to test it out, give it a good run, roll it around. THEN YOU COME TO THE FORUM and post a review, ask questions, debate quality. Fuck the over excited newbs who fail to do research on the forum before buying. There's so much info on vendors and their products here that most disappointment can be avoided if one spends some time and reads up.
Otherwise, ignorant newbs thinking they know something, will be doling out 1/5s because they didn't like the way the box looked. Nevermind that they got what they paid for and quickly too.
DEAR NEWBS: 5/5 if you receive what you bought even if a few days late. 1/5 if you didn't. You get yo shit, look at it, count it or weigh it, then finalize. You don't wait until you try it out to finalize. What? If you don't like it or its not what you expected you think leaving a 1/5 or less than 5/5 is going to make the vendor bend over to please you? Only new vendors might because they worry about their rating. But then that's called rating blackmail. And it's a dick thing to do. Veteran vendors will tell you to fuck off.
And you know what else a vendor can do? They can stealth the listing that you left your 1/5 review on and then no one sees it. You wasted your fucking time. The vendor can start a new listing in place of the one he stealthed. But on the forum, the vendor has no power to redact or delete what you took time to post. HE either has to face it or ignore it.
But, if you come to the community and speak up about a vendor's product, all of a sudden a bunch of buyers will come out of the woodwork agreeing or disagreeing with you and we can all as a community get to the bottom of things and even recommend better vendors that you might have missed or overlooked. That's the beauty of the forums.
Remember, you buy it, it comes, about the quantity or weight advertized - 5/5. It doesn't come, 1/5. 4/5, 3/5, 2/5 those are for professional use only. And I've been here about 18 months or so and never once left one of those. Using those makes you look like a nit-picking ninny prissy bitch. True story.
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NAME AND SHAME THIS JOKER!
I have had a slab of hash once that was a 110g and when you looked at it you would think it was a much smaller like an ounce or more, this is due to all the crap they add, it was not even soap bar, just third grade maroc, BASTARDS!
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i disagree so ur telling me that if a vender is advertizing some dank weed and u get bunk shit u should give them 5/5 just cuz they sent some product?
i agree with finalizing right when u get it but i dont see ANYTHING wrong with changing ur rating after u tried it.. u should all change it if its bunk..
reason being is what if the vender has been selective scamming?? then what? puting the rating lower and stating why after u try might help someone who just is looking through the feedback..
cuz lets face it venders sometimes scam newbs.. and whos gunna believe them on here?
so.. LEAVE BAD FEEDBACK.. THATS JUST HOW IT HAS TO BE.. BUT FINALIZE WHEN U GET IT AND STATE U WILL UPDATE IF ITS BUNK OR NOT.. a lot of people already do this.. ur tripping bro saying u should leave 5/5 so the vedners rep is perfect even tho they are scaming or selling BULLSHIT.. GTFO BRO
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Yeah giving a 5/5 just because someone sent you something is rediculous. I should give a vendor 5/5 for sending me some drywall instead of the stated fishscale? No one should have to sift through review threads that are hundreds of pages long to be able to tell if someone is a decent vendor is absurd!
If people are scamming vendors, then the vendors should have scammer review threads in their forums to track those people... I bet they already do!
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25% more product $$$
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I have never heard this interpretation of the feedback system before, that it is purely based on the efficiency of the shipping process. Is this official SR policy? So if someone sends me a liquorice allsort instead of my hash, but it comes promptly in a stealthy manner what should I do?
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I have never heard this interpretation of the feedback system before, that it is purely based on the efficiency of the shipping process. Is this official SR policy? So if someone sends me a liquorice allsort instead of my hash, but it comes promptly in a stealthy manner what should I do?
Don't you know? That's how we do it. For example all of the top vendors on here don't actually sell drugs, they just ship empty packages. They just send them quick hence all the 5/5's.
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what exactly is in the flavored tobacco spray?
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yeah idk what the fuck that guy is talking about.. if someone send ur ass drugs finalize but if u know right off the bat that its trash.. then leave bad feedback.. if u dont then state u will report back. then change it..
ben is trippn ..
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Nah I kind of get what he's saying; that the feedback should not be influenced by subjective judgements like "I found this weed to be harsh and more of a body load than the mental high I was promised 3/5". I get that. But if there is something properly wrong with the product such that it is not as advertised, then I would have thought the feedback was the appropriate place to mention this? Not everyone reads the review forums and there's a fair bit of shilling goes on there anyway.