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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: swishersweet on March 28, 2013, 05:36 pm
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Seems like the people on this forum would be knowledgeable on this topic, so any info? Especially in regards to THC in a Lab Test.
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passing a weed test is hard. THC stays in your system for weeks depending on your personal metabolism. Generally the fatter you are, low metabolism, the longer the THC stays in your system, possibly more than 4 to 6 weeks. I've heard of drinking lots of water and peeing a lot. I doubt that works since THC is fat soluble, meaning water does nothing to THC. One effective method to increase your metabolism is to exercise. This will increase your metabolism so your body can burn through the THC stored in your fat. And you get healthy at the same time. But of course exercise is not a solution if you just smoked and have a piss test tomorrow morning. So I suggest all potheads to work out like a monster and have 5% body fat so that THC will pass right through your body. I find smoking and swimming to be very fun. Everyone should try it.
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I bought some of this but have never had to use it. I can't guarantee that it'll work but I suppose it's at least worth looking at and discussing:
(clearnet) http://www.quickfixurine.com/
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What i have seen first hand from my brother (i have never tried it) two days before the scheduled test he buys 2 packs of water (the ones with 24-28 bottles in each) he drinks one case the first day and the second case on the 2nd day and he always passed idk how because i was always told that water doesn't do shit to clean your system but my brother has done this constantly with 2-3 different jobs and he's never failed the test...
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here's an idea for you. buy a camelback, the water containers that is a backpack. put it on underneath a coat so no one can see you have a camelpack underneath your coat. have a clean friend pee into the camelback. run the tube of the camelback through your sleeve. go into the bathroom and shoot your friend's clean piss from the camelback into the cup. fucking genius!
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THC stays with fat, so hard core exercise sweating and lots of water
that is hard for stoners but always worked for me when i was smoking
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I'm gonna focus specifically on urine testing...
There are two main types of urine tests used to identify THC metabolites in the system. The first is the classic "dipstick" style test and the second is a much more involved and significantly more expensive Gas Chromatography. Companies that rely on drug testing for the workplace, Parole tests etc, will use both. The cheaper dipstick style test is commonly used to "prescreen" samples, and if the sample shows positive, it is then subjected to a Gas Chromatography to determine exactly how much. Dip stick style tests will generally require 3 to 4 times the amount of metabolites to return a positive than a Gas Chromatography. Obviously, the test must be passed at the dipstick level.
There are two methods, and only two methods, that work to pass a urine test for THC. One is foolproof. The other is risky. I will outline both.
1. The risky method. Dilution. The goal here is to dilute your urine so much that the metabolites are lowered below the threshold the dipstick will trigger a positive result on. This method has several problems. The testee must drink serious quanitities of water, with the quantities required increasing substantially based on consumption. Drinking 1 gallon+ water in the hours leading up to your test will cause your urine to be clear, which many professional testing organizations will treat as a positive. Many testers will also check the Specific Gravity of your urine, which will tell them you are diluting in an attempt to pass the test. The only way to protect against this is to take massive multi-vitamins the day of the test. Don't overdo the Vitamin C as your urine will turn too yellow, but take 300-500% daily allowance of B vitamins and C, this will give your diluted urine the proper color to not arouse suspicion. This does not solve the issue of specific gravity, the only way to increase that is to take a large dose of Creatine every day for the three days leading up to the test. This will raise the specific gravity enough that it won't arouse suspicions in its diluted state. This method is ENTIRELY dependent on passing at the dipstick stage, if they send it to Gas Chromatography you're fucked because they'll notice the jacked up levels of creatine and vitamins in your urine. This method is what all of your pre-canned "pass the test" style drinks rely on to pass... diluting the urine while giving high doses of vitamins and supplements to maintain creatine and color. Very risky, not one I'd recommend when there is a 100% sure way to pass.
2. The guaranteed method. Quick Fix artificial urine. This is a lab created urine that is used to calibrate Gas Chromatagraphs in labs across the country. Fake urine is aboslutely undetectable from healthy regular urine. Using fake urine will handily beat both types of tests with no risk. The key here is to heat it per instructions in the microwave to appropriate temperature, then tape it or secure it in your underwear right at taint level. If you are on probation or parole you may have to test with someone watching you, in which case you may need a version complete with fake appendage to use. Many brands but the only one I’ve ever used is Quick Fix.
Notes
*The tests don't test for THC. They test for the metabolites that are left as a result of your body's processing of THC, so the fat solubility of THC is irrelevant
**Always give urine from mid stream if doing option #1 and NEVER give first urine of the day.
***Most testing places will test for temperature of the urine, beware of this... too hot or too cold and it'll get refused. always make it extra hot and then let it cool before pouring it in the specimen cup. Quick Fix comes with a temp tab on the container and a heating pack you can rubber band to it to keep it above 98 until you need it, just remove the heat pack, wait for it to fall to 98, then pour in the specimen cup.
Sorry, rambling. I'm high. peace and good luck!
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I'll add to demosthenes dilution method with some things I've read and had friends try. Never had to use these methods personally, but its worked for other people I know and the reasoning is sound.
First off, drink lots of water. Up to a gallon in the 24hours preceding your test is a good goal, like demosthenes said. Avoid any strenuous exercise for the day or two before your test. THC metabolites are stored in your fats and strenuous exercise will cause these to be released during exercise and for a while afterwards. If your piss is super diluted, that raises a red flag and will likely have them either make you retest or forward the sample on for a GCMS lab test. Both of those are obviously bad. So, now that your piss is diluted, you need to make it look like its not diluted. 1-2 hours before your test, you should mix up a drink containing water, sugar, and creatine. Also like demosthenes said, take B and C vitamins but not a shit load. This will make your piss yellow, but if you take too much it will be crazy bright yellow and arouse suspicion.
Ok, so you want this pre-test drink to have sugar, and a bunch of it. Like 50g or so. This will cause your body to release a large amount of insulin to maintain your blood sugar levels. Insulin prevents your body from releasing fats into the blood stream, which means no THC metabolites released into your blood for a couple hours, and all that extra water should have flushed all everything out of your blood stream by now.
Finally, creatine. Its the stuff that bodybuilders and other athletes use. You can get it at Walmart, GNC, etc. Creatine will help make your piss seem like it is not diluted. Creatine is naturally in a lot of foods we eat, and is broken down into creatinine then removed from the body if our urine. All this extra water you have been drinking will have flushed all the creatinine out of your bloodstream. If they can't detect any creatinine in your piss, it will raise suspicions. Exactly how much creatine to take is not an exact science, I would say about 2.5g will probably be right. Too much creatine will raise your creatinine levels way above normal. If your creatinine levels are too high, they might ask you about it. If this happens, tell them you work out and have been taking creatine supplements.
Simplified:
1. Drink a shit ton of water to flush THC metabolites out of your blood.
2. A few hours before your test, make and drink a mixture of water, sugar, creatine, B and C vitamins
-sugar creates insulin which stops more THC from getting into your blood
-creatine, B and C vitamins make your piss looks like its not super diluted
3. PISS
4. If they ask about creatine, tell them you take it because you work out
5. FUCKIN PASSED
Also the fake piss works great, but this works great if you can't get fake piss in time and there is no risk of getting the temperature wrong or having them see your fake piss.
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I still like my idea of strapping on your friends pee and pulling it through your sleeve with a camelback.
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Some places will give you a rudimentary pat down, some will give a thorough pat down, some will not pat down at all... a camelback is pretty hard to hide with any kind of patdown... also hard to keep at 98.6 degrees +/- a degree.
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Also
that would ruin your camelback...
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a little pee in the camelback never hurt nobody. obviously you've never been camping with my friends.
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I'm gonna focus specifically on urine testing...
There are two main types of urine tests used to identify THC metabolites in the system. The first is the classic "dipstick" style test and the second is a much more involved and significantly more expensive Gas Chromatography. Companies that rely on drug testing for the workplace, Parole tests etc, will use both. The cheaper dipstick style test is commonly used to "prescreen" samples, and if the sample shows positive, it is then subjected to a Gas Chromatography to determine exactly how much. Dip stick style tests will generally require 3 to 4 times the amount of metabolites to return a positive than a Gas Chromatography. Obviously, the test must be passed at the dipstick level.
There are two methods, and only two methods, that work to pass a urine test for THC. One is foolproof. The other is risky. I will outline both.
1. The risky method. Dilution. The goal here is to dilute your urine so much that the metabolites are lowered below the threshold the dipstick will trigger a positive result on. This method has several problems. The testee must drink serious quanitities of water, with the quantities required increasing substantially based on consumption. Drinking 1 gallon+ water in the hours leading up to your test will cause your urine to be clear, which many professional testing organizations will treat as a positive. Many testers will also check the Specific Gravity of your urine, which will tell them you are diluting in an attempt to pass the test. The only way to protect against this is to take massive multi-vitamins the day of the test. Don't overdo the Vitamin C as your urine will turn too yellow, but take 300-500% daily allowance of B vitamins and C, this will give your diluted urine the proper color to not arouse suspicion. This does not solve the issue of specific gravity, the only way to increase that is to take a large dose of Creatine every day for the three days leading up to the test. This will raise the specific gravity enough that it won't arouse suspicions in its diluted state. This method is ENTIRELY dependent on passing at the dipstick stage, if they send it to Gas Chromatography you're fucked because they'll notice the jacked up levels of creatine and vitamins in your urine. This method is what all of your pre-canned "pass the test" style drinks rely on to pass... diluting the urine while giving high doses of vitamins and supplements to maintain creatine and color. Very risky, not one I'd recommend when there is a 100% sure way to pass.
2. The guaranteed method. Quick Fix artificial urine. This is a lab created urine that is used to calibrate Gas Chromatagraphs in labs across the country. Fake urine is aboslutely undetectable from healthy regular urine. Using fake urine will handily beat both types of tests with no risk. The key here is to heat it per instructions in the microwave to appropriate temperature, then tape it or secure it in your underwear right at taint level. If you are on probation or parole you may have to test with someone watching you, in which case you may need a version complete with fake appendage to use. Many brands but the only one I’ve ever used is Quick Fix.
Notes
*The tests don't test for THC. They test for the metabolites that are left as a result of your body's processing of THC, so the fat solubility of THC is irrelevant
**Always give urine from mid stream if doing option #1 and NEVER give first urine of the day.
***Most testing places will test for temperature of the urine, beware of this... too hot or too cold and it'll get refused. always make it extra hot and then let it cool before pouring it in the specimen cup. Quick Fix comes with a temp tab on the container and a heating pack you can rubber band to it to keep it above 98 until you need it, just remove the heat pack, wait for it to fall to 98, then pour in the specimen cup.
Sorry, rambling. I'm high. peace and good luck!
WOW thank you for all the info!,truly man, thank you.
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a little pee in the camelback never hurt nobody. obviously you've never been camping with my friends.
LOL you must be trolling me on that one, I love your username though.
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I have passed a test using the dilution method with B Vitamins to keep my piss yellow and creatine so as they test for creatine amounts to see if you have diluted or not.
It worked fine but there is always a risk, don't worry about drinking 24 hours before the test, start drinking water 4 hours before the test, you will be pissing every ten minutes but its just part of the deal. There are some good guides on exactly what times to do what etc on the clearnet.
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i got a fuckin effective way mot to fail a drug test, its worked 4 out of 4 times.........
go to bank
get five hundred dollar bills
put them in yo pockett
go to work
go to drug test
hand three bills to test dude and tell him to piss in yo cup
watch him seal it all up legit
give em the other two
BAM GODDAM! I've fuckin pulled this off FOUR TIMES, same guy three times last one scared me tho bc it was a new guy but apparently the old guy told him whatsup and he gave me this look when i told him my name haha and it all worked out
COCAINE!! :)
you know this is actually true. people don't believe it until they try it, but Mr Franklin will get you out of many jams in your life.
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Use a drug similar to what you're looking for that isn't tested for! Totally possible with SR. I know that's not always a good enough answer but there are a lot of plus sides to trying it out - you might find some really interesting things out.
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Synthetic weed?
FUCK NO!
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Synthetic weed?
FUCK NO!
Agreed, nasty shit. Anyway if you aren't going to use fake piss, practice practice practice. Get your plan down, don't make the first time you try this when your shit is on the line. Like the others said, if you are stay very active and have low body fat, you can get clean super quick, as in like have your mother fuckin cake and eat it too. Plus then you are sexy and healthy and exercise is a hell of a drug.
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i got a fuckin effective way mot to fail a drug test, its worked 4 out of 4 times.........
go to bank
get five hundred dollar bills
put them in yo pockett
go to work
go to drug test
hand three bills to test dude and tell him to piss in yo cup
watch him seal it all up legit
give em the other two
Well, out of all the things I've read on the SR, *this one* is probably the most effective way to get around a test.
Of course, you're assuming that the guy at the testing facility will be clean, that the person will be the same sex you are and so there won't be any aberrancies (hCG+ males are always awkward), and that they don't send two people in with you or switch staff (they've done this to me.)
The Camelbak/jerry-rigged quasi-whizzinator was a neat idea too.
Fake urine is aboslutely undetectable from healthy regular urine. Using fake urine will handily beat both types of tests with no risk.
***It's NOT absolutely undetectable, to my understanding. It's pretty damn good, but it's not absolute.*** If there's a workplace injury or it's a forensic sample, it'll get screened. Otherwise it's still rare, although not as rare as the below abstract (which is two years old.) If 2% of their samples were synthetics, screening's going to get more aggressive if it hasn't already.
It'll pass a quick dip, it will not pass micro, will not pass UA/Cr ratio (I would imagine this last has been fixed?), as I understand things. Most urine doesn't pass a standard UA (non-tox) dip as a perfect calibration.
Unless the brand you name has upped its game, it did not foam and was super clear, the last time I looked at it - about a year ago when a friend bought some. I'll try to get some more.
When someone looks at 200 jars of urine in a day, you notice subtle variance - techs know when something's amiss. They often just don't give a rat's ass.
Forensic/injury cases are a little different.
From the SOFT-TOX 2011 abstracts --
P187
Detection of Synthetic Urine in Workplace Drug Testing Specimens
Carl A. Linden
Diagnostic Laboratory Services, Inc., HI, 96701, USA
Objectives: From the beginning of drug testing, substance abusers tried to avoid detection, presenting challenges to laboratory specimen collectors and analysts. Submission of synthetic rather than authentic urine became, at least in some geographical areas, far more prevalent than usage of adulterant additives. This presentation summarizes our laboratory’s initial physical identification of suspected synthetic urine from daily workplace drug testing samples. Suspicious samples were analyzed for low level uric acid and normalized to creatinine to obtain a ratio identifying synthetic urine specimens.
Materials and Methods: Initially, samples suspected of being synthetic were identified by unusual color, clarity and absence of foaming when shaken. These samples were analyzed for creatinine, urea and uric acid. The most common missing component in these samples was uric acid. Subsequently, 250 pre-employment and random forensic workplace urine drug testing samples were analyzed for uric acid and creatinine on an Olympus AU680 analyzer to establish an average population uric acid / creatinine ratio (UA/CR). An invalid-specimen threshold UA/CR ratio was established at 30% below the lowest observed population ratio.
Quantification of uric acid was performed on 0.5 mL aliquots of random human urine utilizing a spectrophotometric analysis developed by Beckman Coulter (modification of the Fossati method) for the Olympus (now Beckman-Coulter) AU 680 automated chemistry analyzer. Creatinine was also measured spectrophotometrically on the same instrument, and aliquot, utilizing a Siemens modified Jaffe reaction.
Results: The average random population (n=254) tested had an average Uric Acid / Creatinine ratio of 0.43, Median of 0.41, Std. Dev. 0.15, Range 0.15 – 1.23. The discriminated UA/CR ratio was established at < 0.10 to identify synthetic urine. In the absence of a confirmatory method, these specimens were reported as Invalid, in the context of the definition from the Dept. of Health and Human Services Mandatory Guidelines for Federal Workplace Drug Testing Programs (2004). The synthetic urine population (n=319) had an average creatinine value of 76.5 mg/dL and uric acid level of 0.3 mg/dL, resulting in an average UA/CR ratio less than 0.004.
Conclusion: In approximately 10,000 forensic urine workplace drug tests collected in the Hawaiian Islands, Guam and Saipan and analyzed from Oct 1, 2010 to March 31, 2011, nearly 2% were synthetic urine. To the best of our knowledge, we believe only our laboratory and at two Oregon laboratories are testing for synthetic urine in the U.S. If this percentage of synthetic urine was extrapolated to the entire country, then there is a high probability that a large number of individuals are “beating the drug test.” This potentially is a problem far exceeding that caused by any urine adulteration product currently being tested in U.S. drug testing laboratories.
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That information does not prove that what they are finding is actually synthetic urine, simply urine that is "out of whack" as far as uric acid, which could very easily be caused by the dilution method and would also account for the off-color of many of the samples, was labelled as "fake".
Nothing talks about their methodology to determine that fake urine has low uric acid, or what brands of fake urine they are testing for. They simply state that based on the ASSUMPTION that fake urine will have low uric acid to creatinine ratios that a bunch of samples were faked. What was their control group? What brands of fake urine did they test to determine that they ratio's outside of the norm?
Two things to consider
1. I have personally used synthetic urine to pass urine tests administered both by DLS and Quest Diagnostics, both leading companies in the drug testing market place. Passed both with flying colors, one was the night after bonging much bubble hash.
2. This company DLS, is one of the kingpin's of the drug testing marketplace. Of course they are going to assure their clients they can catch anything and everything. They'd lose millions, if not billions if they didn't.
Again, as I said in the post, passing the test at the dipstick stage is what is needed, and a good quality synthetic urine will do that.
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here's an idea for you. buy a camelback, the water containers that is a backpack. put it on underneath a coat so no one can see you have a camelpack underneath your coat. have a clean friend pee into the camelback. run the tube of the camelback through your sleeve. go into the bathroom and shoot your friend's clean piss from the camelback into the cup. fucking genius!
FOR THE RECORD:
I've tried this one. It works. Mine is home made and the hose goes down my pants and into my undies. I twist the hose open when I pee . It's all on camera each week too. The camera screen is on a small computer monitor. And they can't see up close at all. Keep moving around so they can't zoom in easily .
Works each week.
Works.
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Demosthenes420, you make outstanding points - thank you. I do wonder how much of the online coverage is the lab marketing itself to drum up business, although SOFT-TOX abstracts are fairly well reviewed. I'm not aware of any sexy new advances in uric acid screening, so I don't think they're pushing it from that angle.
Looking for the poster and information on controls, etc., at present, as well as any updates, will add in line here or just make an alternate thread. Looking for the abstracts - someone should have compared products by now, there are a lot of people who need papers to publish (and if they haven't on this topic, then, well, it's time someone did. Anyone? Bueller?....) That said, I have seen Labcorp's medical confirm/MS panels detect substituted urine, and validity testing (pH, creatinine, nitrites, SG when creatinine is low) is standard even with their dip/cup. I know Mayo/sendout/confirmation will also show a "substituted" or nonphysiologic urine for medical panels.
At least one manufacturer says they add in uric acid and adjust Cr up, but... manufacturers say a lot of things. I don't know if they're foxish enough to change up pH, creatinine, specific gravity, and other values just a little bit with each batch.
It's very useful to know approximately where/when specific synthetics have worked - thanks. These were standard cup/dip tests, without further confirmation, as I read you.
As far as what I remember of the prior quickfix, which is not, as far as I know, the new one: The color itself is pretty good, there's a lot of variance in urine color - it's the turbidity/clarity and then the foaming or absence thereof. I recall an absence of foaming but it's been at least a year; the news clips from the HI lab say both that synthetic urine foams too much and that it doesn't foam enough, although the stories are far enough apart in time that I suppose it could have been a change in formulation.
After reading way too much on this, I would be curious about the urine listed in this article, AU-Siriraj, and if it's available as a commercial/repackaged product... but I don't know much about artificial urines. This is a nice fit, though... :
Systematic comparisons of artificial urine formulas for in vitro cellular study (cleartext link, low traffic: hxxp://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.ab.2010.03.031) and see table 1 and supplemental tables 1 & 2.
I do agree that synthetic's better than a lot of other options. It's generally going to beat a standard tox panel, not a full screen, if temp can be maintained appropriately. For most initial workplace screening, that's what's needed, you are fine as long as you can avoid reflex confirmation. Most employers aren't motivated to pay for secondary confirmation for all employees or even random spot checks. It's also powdered and relatively easy to store/transport, and probably not accidentally contaminated with something someone forgot to mention.
I am still not sure if I would count on it if a standard UA dipstick were run as well, I don't have enough to support it if I know there will be full confirmation/validity testing, and I'd be concerned in a higher-intensity testing situation. I wouldn't bet my job on it, or, were I on it, my methadone maintenance.
I admit that I do not know what percentage of workplace tests/initial employment screens/random workplace screens also check for Cr, uric acid, pH, or perform a standard urinalysis. I don't believe microscopy is standard in a workplace setting. I do know that in a medical context, creatinine, specific gravity, pH are common in drug screening/monitoring, a standard urinalysis dip is common, with micro often reflex.
I'm frequently talking to people who are being monitored for chronic controlled substances, for pain management, ADD, methadone maintenance, so I'm thinking about the clinical setting as well as the workplace setting.
Clean human (or similar mammal) is the safest testing bet still, even though it's not reliably / conveniently available.
$500 is a pretty good bet if you trust the bribee to provide a clean sample. I don't trust people that much, on reflection.
If I were in a bind for a planned workplace screening or announced random UA, with concern for what might show up and no significant warning, and I didn't know if the test was going to be a dip or MS/QTOF/something else beyond an immunoassay/MAB screen*, I'd maybe try this: dilute my own urine to the maximal degree (50/50, maybe, though I'm still looking for the synthetic Cr/SG numbers by brand - hard to find, apparently I'm going to need to do this myself) with the synthetic stuff; test-dip it at home for temperature, drugs, UCr, and SG, and hope that worked again the next day. Ideally the home-blend would give just enough abnormality to show good, with enough dilution to not tip the drug thresholds, enough macromols to foam appropriately, and enough turbidity to look right.
Maybe that's too complex, but it kind of covers both strategies - dilution and substitution, ideally without giving me the huge Red Flag of Flagginess, a low creatinine (high association with positive drug screens, fairly consistently, can be enough to trigger a sendout in some systems. Like my workplace.)
I might trust the synthetic alone if I thought it was just going to be a standard cup, I'd check for a brand that at least described awareness of the uric acid issue and had been updated in the past year or two... especially in HI, OR, and WA, and if I knew my facility was sending out to to those states.
If I were up for medical screening, such as opioid monitoring, in the same situation, I'd probably try diluting with the synthetic, I would not rely on the synthetic alone, and I'd try to make it a 'dirty catch' sample to get some cells, etc., in there. Uric acid: might not come back right away, but if something else looks odd, it'll get thrown under micro. May as well look good.
Forensic: There are probably implications to substituting synthetic urine on a forensic screen, I don't know what those are but I'm guessing there are serious adverse consequences, like, uh, return to prison. Now, I can justify drinking too much water, a ton of acidifying agents, and the 19 exotic prescriptions I just started, including an abrupt need for an antimalarial, all of which are documented false positives on immunoassay but just might come up negative on confirmation if I take an interfering agent (which they'll also possibly test for in a forensic setting.) But it's *pretty hard* to explain an overt substitution or the presence of a urine filled container. "I fell on it" won't go over so well. So I'd be very motivated to acquire known clean (probably human) urine, test it as above before I went - people forget, people lie... dogs don't usually lie, but it's tricky to get them to pee in the cup - and then practice a lot with my sleight of hand skills and a mirror and/or a very good friend. I'd keep enough for two samples, as I've known POs who will have someone wait for an hour or so after their first sample to give a second one, to see if the temp changed.
And, of course, there are hCG+ men, as I discussed with someone in chat; men do intentionally ingest it.
The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of using the substitution / synthetic urine as a 'reconcentrating' agent, because, srsly, dilute urines are just highly, highly correlated, unsurprisingly, with positive UADS results, so much that a low creatinine is a shiny button that says "push me" for anyone who is screening lab results for sendout/confirmations that aren't based on lines alone. And, as far as I can tell, everyone drinks more before their drug screen, even people who are not using drugs... I mean really, really dilute urines, the kind of values that I think "risk for electrolyte disturbance."
Also, I am lking the camelbak idea more and more. Except, effective today, it just became difficult to wear long sleeves during urine testing for a significant percent of the population; 'they' read this forum too...
I'm done overthinking this for a little bit now, I'll add anything relevant that turns up.
Thanks again -good comments on a poorly outlined abstract.
--thyme
*As far as what kind of screening they'll be doing, it's amazing how often the workplace lab will just tell you if you call and ask. So will the union, if you have one.
The overexplained version: "Hi. I just stopped taking Zoloft 3 days ago, and I don't want to list it on my current meds because I don't want to talk to my boss about taking an antidepressant. But I called my doctor, she said it could cross react with benzodiazepines, and I should ask what kind of urine test you're doing to see if she needs to write a note. She said to ask if it was an immunoassay screen or a confirmation, because the confirmation would be fine but the immunoassay might cross-react. She also said it would matter what brand it was because I guess they don't all cross-react. I really don't want to talk to my new boss about my mental health stuff, my doc knows that, and she's trying to wok with me on this. If it's a 'confirmation' screen, she said she doesn't need to write me a letter, but if I need to get a note from her, I need to call her by early afternoon."
Will there be some skepticism on the part of the lab/test site? Probably, but they'll most likely be polite. Is it credible? Completely. Are people sympathetic? Yes.