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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: demodulate on March 14, 2013, 04:24 am

Title: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: demodulate on March 14, 2013, 04:24 am
I was just wondering if you are in fact getting a controlled delivery and simply don't answer the door what happens?

Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: Tony 76 on March 14, 2013, 04:28 am
They keep knocking and ringing. Flush it all before they decide to break in.
Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: starship on March 14, 2013, 04:31 am
Won't they get you at your mail box?
Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: Bline on March 14, 2013, 04:42 am
If you are stupid enough to order a shitload of drugs to your front door, a controlled delivery is the last of your worries.
Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: demodulate on March 14, 2013, 05:36 am
so they can legally kick in your door for not accepting a package in america.. that is nuts..
Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: Jediknight on March 14, 2013, 05:44 am
I think The controlled delivery is often just a means of seeing if the recipient is home.   Often, warrants require the person to be identified before the door goes down .   Warrant is in hand already or soon to come , based on the package smell alone.' Hell, mother just pretend to smell pot and they got the warrant.  It's that easy for them. 

I got my car searched with a warrant because the passenger had a record and looked nervous.'  I hate the fuzz.
Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: kpnitreal1 on March 14, 2013, 05:52 am
DENY TIL YOU DIE!

They knock, you answer.

"Oh thats strange, I wasn't expecting a package.  Return to sender please"

Close the door and flush your stash/paraphernalia.

Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: JackJillHill on March 14, 2013, 06:24 am
I got a controlled delivery. Fucking idiots at customs held my package for about 3 weeks then tried to deliver it. So it was obvious. I just made sure I was gone all day when it was supposed to be delivered. When I get the the spot there was a note on the door that said," Please call this number to pick up your package." Lol. God LE is stupid.

If I had picked it up I would probably be doing 20 years. So just know your shit.
Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: tyrone1337 on March 14, 2013, 06:29 am
I think The controlled delivery is often just a means of seeing if the recipient is home.   Often, warrants require the person to be identified before the door goes down .   Warrant is in hand already or soon to come , based on the package smell alone.' Hell, mother just pretend to smell pot and they got the warrant.  It's that easy for them. 

I got my car searched with a warrant because the passenger had a record and looked nervous.'  I hate the fuzz.
Listen to this guy. You're not gonna get arrested on the spot when they do a controlled deliver unless they have a ton of evidence on you already, at that point you're already screwed.

Think about it this way. What if you sent a package to a hated enemy. They do a controlled delivery on him, he signs and takes the package. Does he end up in jail because he signed for some random package? Highly unlikely they could convince a judge to convict you based on that alone. Now if they get a warrant after he signs and search his found and find more illegal stuff it's a different story.

Go with your gut. Keep your senses up. Don't let them rush you or push you into doing something. If something happens shut up and ask for an attorney. Chances are you'll get out of it one way or another.
Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: 808 Distance on March 14, 2013, 06:41 am
Just simply don't answer the door and don't sign for anything, ever.
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Post by: Palmergbl on March 14, 2013, 07:24 pm
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Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: Cynosure on March 14, 2013, 07:33 pm
Just simply don't answer the door and don't sign for anything, ever.

People always say this.. but, honestly, what's the harm in signing?  Is it due to the signing meaning you've officially received the package (therefore you are now in possession of X amount of Y)?  Could you still not deny after signing?

If a package came for me that I literally did not order, I'd still sign for it if my name and address were on it.  I sure as hell wouldn't send it back without seeing what's inside first.  I'm not sure I understand why people say this?  It would seem to be more sketch if you were like "Uhm.. no, I'm not signing for this".
Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: Ojizzle on March 14, 2013, 10:20 pm
Not signing isn't necessarily going to save your ass, but law enforcement prefers to have you sign for a package. It makes their case that much stronger.
Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: LEFTY on March 14, 2013, 10:49 pm
DENY TIL YOU DIE!

They knock, you answer.

"Oh thats strange, I wasn't expecting a package.  Return to sender please"

Close the door and flush your stash/paraphernalia.


Don't open the door UNTIL the stash is gone. A couple of years ago my neighbor (psycho old lady) called the police on me because she thought I had too much traffic in and out of my house. Thought it was a crack house I guess even though it's in a 700k a house average neighborhood. So cops arrive and after I answer the door they push their way in saying they smelled cannabis. The cops proceeded to look around my house looking in every corner but not opening drawers or anything. My house was clean and they then told me the neighbor called and they have to check up on every call like this they get.  See no search warrant needed after the door is open.
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Post by: jkbliss on March 14, 2013, 10:52 pm
What a bitch for a neighbor
Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: Litescape on March 14, 2013, 11:03 pm
Just simply don't answer the door and don't sign for anything, ever.

People always say this.. but, honestly, what's the harm in signing?  Is it due to the signing meaning you've officially received the package (therefore you are now in possession of X amount of Y)?  Could you still not deny after signing?

If a package came for me that I literally did not order, I'd still sign for it if my name and address were on it.  I sure as hell wouldn't send it back without seeing what's inside first.  I'm not sure I understand why people say this?  It would seem to be more sketch if you were like "Uhm.. no, I'm not signing for this".


Signing basically confirms the fact that you were in fact expecting the package. Which is why you should never sign for a package, not only are sellers not supposed to require it, but by signing you are accepting ownership of the package.
Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: kittiesandpuppies on March 15, 2013, 02:54 am
Just simply don't answer the door and don't sign for anything, ever.

People always say this.. but, honestly, what's the harm in signing?  Is it due to the signing meaning you've officially received the package (therefore you are now in possession of X amount of Y)?  Could you still not deny after signing?

If a package came for me that I literally did not order, I'd still sign for it if my name and address were on it.  I sure as hell wouldn't send it back without seeing what's inside first.  I'm not sure I understand why people say this?  It would seem to be more sketch if you were like "Uhm.. no, I'm not signing for this".


For domestic US, I would tend to think the same thing.  I mean, in this day and age, its basically common to receive packages I may not be explicitly expecting, especially with companies sending samples and spam, a couple of companies I do business with will send out a small trinket of something every couple months, stuff like that.  When I get a package I am not expecting, my first instinct is to grab it, rip it open, and see whats in it, not refuse and deny the package.  I would never find it strange or odd to show up at the post office to pick up a package.  In fact, i would think the EXACT opposite - there must be something weird with that package if they are refusing to sign for it, if they have refused to come pick it up.

However, from a LEGAL stand point, one would not sign for a package unless they are expecting it, because essentially you are signing a contract.  Signing for the package LEGALLY says that you were expecting the package, and accepted the package, and you now have responsibility for the contents of the package.  Now, in general, that does not necessarily prove (nor does lack of a signature disprove) that you knew what was in it and you ordered it, but its kind of like giving cops permission to search your car on a traffic stop, rather than demanding probable cause for a search.  They already know whats in the package, but when you sign the CONTRACT stating you accept the package and responsibility for its contents, you gave the cops probable cause, instead of making them find it on their own, as you just signed a contract accepting responsibility for the contents of the package.  Also considering that traditionally, you would only receive a signed package in a situation where you were sending certified mail or cod or something like that, I would say the slow to change gov has not quite realized that people get signed and tracked packages all the time that they may not be expecting or know exactly whats in it.
Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: JackJillHill on March 15, 2013, 10:57 am
Honestly I don't know the legal ramifications but I do know that when they knocked at the drop house and nobody answered the door he just stood there and kept knowing and wringing the doorbell. Finally they said fuck it and put a note on the door with the ASK-USPS number blacked out and it said please call some local number instead. Lol. I'm not a fucking fool. So I later that night I went and got the note, took if off of the door and said peace out! Noway if fuck was I gonna answer that note, dumbass LE. So I went on my merry way and nothing ever happened. They never called,  followed me or a damn thing. This was a Kilo of a schedule 4 narcotic so it wasn't ice cream. But screw it. They couldn't prove I ordered a damn thing and so they couldn't do shit. That;s the key. Don't be or act suspicious and stay the hell away from that package!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

Title: Re: Controlled Delivery - Simply dont answer the door?
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 15, 2013, 11:25 am
i was forced into signing for a package once...i marked it return address and left it by the back door with my other outgoing mail for almost 24hours...i told the seller NEVER again. and well its been gravy since.