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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: indianpilldaddy on March 07, 2013, 07:42 pm
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I am just having a thought that why is the Law Enforcement(LE) so hell bent on capturing drug related criminals. What about the real criminals like rapists, murderers, serial killers, robbers, even fraudsters.
What is wrong with distributing cannnabis which is 100% natural and there have been ZERO deaths with cannabis. Its just something which is illegal but it doesn't harm anybody. It is as bad as selling a cigarette.
I think every matter should be looked upon in a very detailed manner.
Even selling prescription drugs should be looked upon differently as it is they are all legal and it is the doctors who prescribe them and start causing dependence. By the way why are prescription drugs so expensive in America when they are so cheap here in India???
It is the same stuff that's put in. I think you guys should rather arrest the REAL criminals - the owners of these pharamaceuticle companies.
Give it a thought!!
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I have only this to say: no. Natural != safe. Often natural == fucking_fatal, in fact.
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A lot of LE personnel seem to take their job way too seriously. Two officers followed a friend of mine for 30 minutes, tracking him down inside of a large hotel. The horrible crime?
Crossing the railroad tracks.
The local PD has begun stationing officers at the entrances to the parks in my area to enforce the "Parks closed after 11" rule. These officers literally sit there and do nothing, instead of patrolling.
LE apparently has severe issues with what ACTUALLY constitutes a legit crime. It is not just drugs, but every single minor, petty, nonsensical law they have.
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I'd rather the cops deal with the abusers, not the common users and white collar criminals.
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A lot of LE personnel seem to take their job way too seriously. Two officers followed a friend of mine for 30 minutes, tracking him down inside of a large hotel. The horrible crime?
Crossing the railroad tracks.
The local PD has begun stationing officers at the entrances to the parks in my area to enforce the "Parks closed after 11" rule. These officers literally sit there and do nothing, instead of patrolling.
LE apparently has severe issues with what ACTUALLY constitutes a legit crime. It is not just drugs, but every single minor, petty, nonsensical law they have.
Exactly my point mate!! There is so much of actual crime going on in the streets and the LE is busy trying to track down the simple stoned guy who is smoking pot in his apartment.
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So sadly, the majority still thinks drugs are bad.
Its the 'baby-boomers' who are still alive that are ruining it for everyone. they are from a time when pot was evil. They need to all die off before we can move forward . They are the ones making the most calls. . . the under 40 crowd is totally different.
Listen Sonny some of us old farts were smart enough not to believe the bs that was shoveled to us - I'm not ruining anything for anyone ;D
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As JediKnight said - the only reason LE spends any time at all on enforcement of soft drug laws (like cannabis) is because it is still illegal in most jurisdictions. If called upon to enforce the law they have no choice but to do so.
The real question is why we as a society allow such a distraction to take away policing resources from where they're really needed.
Having said that, I also think SelfSovereignty has a good point - just because it's natural doesn't mean its 'good'. Cyanide, arsenic and other edible poisons all exist naturally. I wouldn't eat wild mushrooms without knowing what I was doing. Of course I wouldn't outlaw them eithe
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I've been on vacation for like a week and been doing MDMA for 5 days straight, so fuckin bored of that shit, I'm not doing it again for like 3 months rathe smoke bud yo.
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I had a conversation about this with a police officer once. They frequently disagree with the laws they are made to enforce, but the soccer moms and wealthy idealists who attend city council meetings and fund the department make the rules. Complain about them.
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I had a conversation about this with a police officer once. They frequently disagree with the laws they are made to enforce, but the soccer moms and wealthy idealists who attend city council meetings and fund the department make the rules. Complain about them.
Individual police officers should still have enough imagination to apply common sense to what they do. Just because something is illegal does not mean it is wrong, and yet they seem to treat as such. Case in point, the railroad incident with my friend. Many officers also seem to either lack common sense in the first place or be in law enforcement simply to screw other people over as much as possible. One of the cities north of me is notorious for having an over staffed PD that glories in ripping apart peoples rights as much as possible.
I am reminded very strongly of many Nazi war criminals who were "just following orders" and "had no choice". Some cops are not that bad, they will let many small things go because they disagree with the silliness of many minor laws, but others...
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I've been on vacation for like a week and been doing MDMA for 5 days straight, so fuckin bored of that shit, I'm not doing it again for like 3 months rathe smoke bud yo.
Thank you for your very related input in the thread
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Cops just do their jobs. Its the damn nieghbors, friends, family in your community who calls them to report you.
Nazi exterminators were just doing their jobs too. This is such a stupid excuse it makes me physically sick to hear it. I ensure you that when someone gets the job of killing police officers, the police are not going to say that they are just doing their job and leave them alone. Think about how fucking stupid that argument really sounds. I could hire someone to rape fucking infants for christs sake, are you going to be fine with that because they are just doing their job? It is the god damned stupidest excuse for the police in the entire world, nothing could possibly be dumber than to excuse the police or anyone else by saying they are just doing their job.
Agree on waiting for all the old people to die off. In thirty years when the people who are 60+ today are dying off in large numbers hopefully things will start to change, and we can move away from basing our lives on the violently enforced morality of a bunch of brainwashed Christian assholes.
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You are just talking about your community here mate. I am talking about on a global scale. I'll tell you something in my country cops do drive around looking for crooks to bust. You know why!! Because they intend to be e bribed,because they are not paid enough here by the government. There are much bigger screw ups here in the world. My point is - When rapists exist!! Murderers exist!! Even robbers exist! Then why is the Law Enforcement targeting the honest drug seller or buyer??!! It simply does not make sense to me mate!!
Cops just do their jobs. Its the damn nieghbors, friends, family in your community who calls them to report you.
In my community, if nobody calls, the cops never come at all. if the community lets weed be sold and bought, then the cops leave it alone. Its called community policing and they only go after what people call in.
You'd be foolish to think that cops are driving around looking for crooks to bust. They only respond to calls. Their supervisor calls them to go here and there to check this and that out in the spare time between calls.
Its the community who makes the the demands from their politicians, who then make the demands from the public services like enforcement.
So sadly, the majority still thinks drugs are bad.
Its the 'baby-boomers' who are still alive that are ruining it for everyone. they are from a time when pot was evil. They need to all die off before we can move forward . They are the ones making the most calls. . . the under 40 crowd is totally different.
Spread some good propaganda. Dispel myths and educate people. change the laws, change the system one person at a time.
Fuck the Police. Bring back armor piercing bullets!
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Cops just do their jobs. Its the damn nieghbors, friends, family in your community who calls them to report you.
Nazi exterminators were just doing their jobs too. This is such a stupid excuse it makes me physically sick to hear it. I ensure you that when someone gets the job of killing police officers, the police are not going to say that they are just doing their job and leave them alone. Think about how fucking stupid that argument really sounds. I could hire someone to rape fucking infants for christs sake, are you going to be fine with that because they are just doing their job? It is the god damned stupidest excuse for the police in the entire world, nothing could possibly be dumber than to excuse the police or anyone else by saying they are just doing their job.
Agree on waiting for all the old people to die off. In thirty years when the people who are 60+ today are dying off in large numbers hopefully things will start to change, and we can move away from basing our lives on the violently enforced morality of a bunch of brainwashed Christian assholes.
Uh ? After reading some of your comments, I thought you would be someone more reasonable...
You tell him his argument is stupid, but just read your metaphors ? Comparing LE to Nazi exterminators ? Would that add anything valuable to that discussion ?
I do think most LE couldn't care less if they are busting drug users or a robbery or anything else. It's the politics we have to blame first.
Lobbyist will push on politics to maintain weed illegal as long as they can. As a result, politics from governments requires as much busts as possible to law enforcement.
For other drugs, it's mostly because our politics are old and lived all their fucking crappy life thinking drug users needs to rot in jail. They will just continue to ask for that as long as they are alive and elected by PEOPLE. Hopefully with time, younger and more reasonable people will modify law to leave more freedom to people.
Did you ever wonder why our laws don't change if a vast majority of people wants to legalize drug X or Y ? They don't change either because :
- There is still a majority of the population of your country that thinks that drug X is dangerous for your health and that they got to ENFORCE that (even though I think that's not for anybody to decide what's good or bad for you).
- Politics are corrupted or too much used of years of prohibition. Old politics tends to be VERY VERY VERY stubborn and everything except open to new ideas.
Finally, never forget that LE budgets are defined by POLITICS. If government officials wouldn't take drug busts as important, they wouldn't give a penny to LE for it.
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Fuck the Police. Bring back armor piercing bullets!
This is why god made lathes and mills and arbor presses. Just sayin...
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Cops just do their jobs. Its the damn nieghbors, friends, family in your community who calls them to report you.
Nazi exterminators were just doing their jobs too. This is such a stupid excuse it makes me physically sick to hear it. I ensure you that when someone gets the job of killing police officers, the police are not going to say that they are just doing their job and leave them alone. Think about how fucking stupid that argument really sounds. I could hire someone to rape fucking infants for christs sake, are you going to be fine with that because they are just doing their job? It is the god damned stupidest excuse for the police in the entire world, nothing could possibly be dumber than to excuse the police or anyone else by saying they are just doing their job.
Agree on waiting for all the old people to die off. In thirty years when the people who are 60+ today are dying off in large numbers hopefully things will start to change, and we can move away from basing our lives on the violently enforced morality of a bunch of brainwashed Christian assholes.
Uh ? After reading some of your comments, I thought you would be someone more reasonable...
You tell him his argument is stupid, but just read your metaphors ? Comparing LE to Nazi exterminators ? Would that add anything valuable to that discussion ?
I do think most LE couldn't care less if they are busting drug users or a robbery or anything else. It's the politics we have to blame first.
Lobbyist will push on politics to maintain weed illegal as long as they can. As a result, politics from governments requires as much busts as possible to law enforcement.
For other drugs, it's mostly because our politics are old and lived all their fucking crappy life thinking drug users needs to rot in jail. They will just continue to ask for that as long as they are alive and elected by PEOPLE. Hopefully with time, younger and more reasonable people will modify law to leave more freedom to people.
Did you ever wonder why our laws don't change if a vast majority of people wants to legalize drug X or Y ? They don't change either because :
- There is still a majority of the population of your country that thinks that drug X is dangerous for your health and that they got to ENFORCE that (even though I think that's not for anybody to decide what's good or bad for you).
- Politics are corrupted or too much used of years of prohibition. Old politics tends to be VERY VERY VERY stubborn and everything except open to new ideas.
Finally, never forget that LE budgets are defined by POLITICS. If government officials wouldn't take drug busts as important, they wouldn't give a penny to LE for it.
My experience with kmfkewm is mixed. I think he's somewhat intelligent if not very naive. He throws around a lot of grown-up words like 'Nazi' as if he has actually lived under a true fascist regime. Funny though - he really believes that any form of government is evil, (calls believers in government 'statists') but thinks that somehow we can magically live amongst each other without any laws at all. If we need protection from each other we'll just hire security agencies to enforce our own beliefs over everyone else (although what happens when the security companies collaborate and demand 'protection' money from us all). He hates any form of Law Enforcement (LE), in fact he calls for their execution upon the realization of a libertarian society. Basically he's the kind of dude who has has been living in a bubble of extreme idealist isolation. Pol Pot, Stalin and Mad Max would all agree with his radical reasoning.
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I mean, you have to think about what kind of person would want to be a cop to begin with. Once you think about it for about 5 seconds you then realize why theyre the way they are.
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I gave you a +1 karma for that mate! So true!! I mean if you really cannot do anything else with your life and are so low on self esteem.You become a cop so that you can bully everybody else, like you have been for your entire past life!
I mean, you have to think about what kind of person would want to be a cop to begin with. Once you think about it for about 5 seconds you then realize why theyre the way they are.
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I mean, you have to think about what kind of person would want to be a cop to begin with. Once you think about it for about 5 seconds you then realize why theyre the way they are.
For real, dog.. I am getting to the age where a good portion of my local police force is younger then I am. It's strange getting cuffed by some baby faced 25 year old kid.
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Welcome to Silk Road
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On the whole "police are just doing their job thing": Sure, nazi exterminators were just doing their job, but that is an unfair comparison. They were likely facing something more consequential than simply losing their job, which is what the cops are facing at worst. The thing that makes them "just doing their job" sicken me is that they are choosing to sell out their morals (if they have any) just so that they wouldn't be unemployed for a stretch. C'mon. Money corrupts when people choose it over moral values.
I mean, you have to think about what kind of person would want to be a cop to begin with. Once you think about it for about 5 seconds you then realize why theyre the way they are.
This is so true. Which kind of makes my last point moot, seeing as those ego inflated authority addicts are totally devoid of any sort of morality or ability to see outside of their own perspective.