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Title: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: SamGiancana on March 02, 2013, 04:08 pm
So if my luck couldn't get any worse, I just recovered from that last shit, and now theteflondon (a vendor out of the same city as me) has been doing local transactions, on the fourth one he stole my methylone, and took 7775.00 worth of bitcoins.
I have it in messages and I am contacting SR support - I see people are now FE'ing for him , definitely dont get ripped off.
Title: Re: BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K.
Post by: Kappacino on March 02, 2013, 04:22 pm
Ouch dude, that's a rough one.

You got evidence?
Title: Re: BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K.
Post by: calicojak on March 02, 2013, 04:31 pm
If you're gonna make those type of accusations than you need to post up evidence.
Title: Re: BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K.
Post by: SamGiancana on March 02, 2013, 04:36 pm
If you're gonna make those type of accusations than you need to post up evidence.

I am getting screenshots now - I use another account for purchases.
He told me he could help cash out my coins so I sent him $7775.00 worth, and we have done many transactions before so I trusted the guy.
I will post back in a moment.
Title: Re: BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K.
Post by: SamGiancana on March 02, 2013, 04:48 pm
I like how this creep was willing to get me to get fronted 2 ounces of ice for him to steal as well - to really put a target on my head.

***READ FROM BOTTOM TO TOP***

omarion2    So you stole my bitcoins and stole my 500 G methylone?
Cool man, get someone when they are already at their lowest point.
If you could find it in your heart to return the coins at least - it was all my savings left, I can't believe I am so trusting with people
please consider it man I really need them back...    29 minutes    unread
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*NOW I GAVE HIM BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND I WENT TO BED FOR THE NIGHT (MAYBE HIS PHONE DIED ETC) AND IN THE MORNING STILL HAD NO MSG*

omarion2    k can you update me on whats going on or?    13 hours    unread
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**AT THIS POINT HE TAKES THE METHYLONE FROM ME AND TELLS ME TO DRIVE SOMEWHERE, I GO THERE AND HE STOPS TEXTING ME, I HEAD HOME AND MESSAGE HIM THIS NOW**

omarion2    Yeah its in the box, you cant speed it up by giving partner the cash at the same time?
Like I said got this guy waiting westside for this transaction.
Thanks let me know.    14 hours    unread
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TheTeflonDon(100)    I'll be nearby you meet my partner as usual give him the methylone and he will come to me and I'll give him cash to bring to you.

Get ready and pack the methylone in something discreet if possible.    14 hours    read
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omarion2    So sorry whats gonna happen?
I am already responsible to pay for this 9 sack, or this guys gonna flip shit, I thought u wanted it 100 % bro sorry
I sent the bitcoins.
So are you bringing the cash now? (how much total, 7775 + 2500 for the half unit?)

Then I'll run and grab it cool?    14 hours    read
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TheTeflonDon(100)    Well it takes two business days but I'm giving you money out of my account which gets cleaned.

He can't even do two ounces to shut these guys up because half hour 45 and you both got your cash and yeah bring the methylone my partner is nearby then me and you can start meeting up personally.    14 hours    read
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TheTeflonDon(100)    Well it takes two business days but I'm giving you money out of my account which gets cleaned.

He can't even do an oz to shut these guys up and yeah bring the methylone my partner is nearby.    14 hours    read
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omarion2    Sending now - thanks man - how long approx?
Ive literally got this kid waiting on the west cause he doesnt wanna drive around heated.

Should I bring the methylone too?

Thanks.    14 hours    read
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TheTeflonDon(100)    Okay scroll down and transfer the coins to that account, I'll text you in a bit when my partner is headed your way.    14 hours    read
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omarion2    He wouldnt trust me this much to be fronted bro.
It's 9 ounces and I can give u for 10,800
if u can get me the paper for the coins this guy is waiting to do the transactions - hes gonna be pretty pissed if I dont have the money for it now, can you make it happen?    14 hours    read
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TheTeflonDon(100)    Your right and I trust you well I'll take the half key but I really really need that glass these goddamn bikers are blowing up my phone, can you get fronted it would only be for one hour then you'll get your bitcoin cash, hard and money for the glass.

I hate these bikers but they're good for business..also got a buyer for the phone how much you want for it?    14 hours    read
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omarion2    You've got my word this is all thats going around as MDMA, there isnt mdma in the city anymore and if there is youd have to be charging 10 x more.
Well will you take the bitcoins (I have 7775.00 worth)
My guy is ready with it and wants to meet within the hour, but I am still strapped for cash after what happened.
Could you even take 250 G of Methylone for 1250, then with the remaining paper I have I can grab (the crystal meth) for you.

Let me know, thanks.
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TheTeflonDon(100)    Hey bro just give me a bit one of my distributors is rethinking things over because we don't want our rep ruined if we sell anything else but mdma, I would really like 12oz of meth they will be gone the hour you give it to me.
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omarion2    I dont have meth or ketamine, was relying on paper from the methylone / bitcoins to grab the meth from my guy.

Bad news about the methylone, thought I could get another 500 G todaty but buddy says he wont have it until monday.
So I only have 500 G right now.
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TheTeflonDon(100)    Okay let's get everything done.

Transfer the bitcoins you want cleaned: 13pYvbnpZM4K3JrVTbimbZuK1PvBnrstpX

Let's meet up for the key of methylone and can we get some meth or keta at the same time? Money will be back in your hands within 30 minutes.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: SamGiancana on March 02, 2013, 05:11 pm
Look at his profile:

PRE-ORDER

Diamonds High Quality Meth
High Quality MDMA Caps 170mg per

All orders shipped out Monday, order some now!

Lol, yes guys, pre-order his meth / MDMA , that he doesnt have, that he's never sold, that he was trying to steal some from me.
This dude is cashing out this weekend and you wont see him again come monday.
be fucking careful. I really hope DPR or the staff saves people thousands of their dollars and shuts down this account instantly.
Seriously.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: Snoopish on March 02, 2013, 06:47 pm
Hrrmmm...
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: Jediknight on March 02, 2013, 06:55 pm
Neve trust any human with more than $1000 at a time.   Yu should do business in chunks and repeat over.   Trusti g someone with 7775. Is waaaay too tempting to run off with.   Half a key is tempting too. .

I really feel for you.  You can track him somehow I'm sure.

Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: t0rk on March 02, 2013, 08:28 pm
You're lucky you didn't get killed both times. Maybe this game isn't for you?

I personally think you're mtljohn, I could be wrong, I just got that feeling.

You got beat for 40k + in the past couple months. You're either soft as a loaf of bread or terribly unlucky with a combination of dumb.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: SamGiancana on March 02, 2013, 08:39 pm
The only reason I trusted him so much is that we have done large transactions (9 ounces upfront at a time) etc,
we worked our way up to this trust so I didn't see this happening.........
I'm starting to agree that this game isnt for me as I am repeatedly fucked over like a retard.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: jnemonic on March 02, 2013, 08:40 pm
Damn, was actually one of the vendors i have been thinking about buying from...

Thank you for the heads up.... ;)

So TeflonDon is having a 20% off sale starting tomorrow? Buyers beware.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: SamGiancana on March 02, 2013, 09:06 pm
Can we just get the account shut down already?
The messages are there, I've reported it, I already see someone FE'd for like 14 grams and more,
stop letting legit people lose their money here and protect everyone.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: jnemonic on March 02, 2013, 09:20 pm
Why would someone FE when it clearly mentions not having to FE..? ???
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: SamGiancana on March 02, 2013, 09:38 pm
Why would someone FE when it clearly mentions not having to FE..? ???

Im assuming hes asking for it now.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: jnemonic on March 02, 2013, 09:45 pm
No i couldnt see anywhere asking anyone to FE.

Only thing is, if your order is under $400, there is no refund.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: DrSork500 on March 02, 2013, 10:23 pm
I grew up learning Canada was a  gay country now I learned it's scammers paradise.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on March 02, 2013, 10:26 pm
I'm sorry bro but you can see what's coming from a mile off in those text messages. The whole thing about "you give the 500g to my partner and he'll bring it to me, then I'll give him the cash I owe you to bring back to you", na if he owes you that cash he should hand it over at the same time as you give him the 500g. Don't trust anyone with that kind of money -it's not small change- no matter what history you've got.

This game isn't for you mate trust me, some people just aren't suited to it - that can be a good thing it means your a trusting person who isn't cold, hard and calculating. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and move on, lesson learned! Remember, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

Oh, and lastly, I bet that "partner" you met was really him, remember that face >:(
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: TheProfessor on March 02, 2013, 10:38 pm
I'm sorry bro but you can see what's coming from a mile off in those text messages. The whole thing about "you give the 500g to my partner and he'll bring it to me, then I'll give him the cash I owe you to bring back to you", na if he owes you that cash he should hand it over at the same time as you give him the 500g. Don't trust anyone with that kind of money -it's not small change- no matter what history you've got.

This game isn't for you mate trust me, some people just aren't suited to it - that can be a good thing it means your a trusting person who isn't cold, hard and calculating. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and move on, lesson learned! Remember, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

Oh, and lastly, I bet that "partner" you met was really him, remember that face >:(


I honestly dont think the drug game is tailored for anyone... People shouldnt be exposed to such scum all the time and the paranoia is not worth any amount of money unless im the one sitting on top only making calls and sitting in an office somewhere..

People sell drugs because 1. the people they know/connection 2. Money

There are so many safer lines of work where the risk doesnt involve you being in danger, and I dont want to sound like I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth because I am far from that, but leaving the Drug Game "" was the best decision ive ever made in my life,

The quality of life goes up when you are not selling.. Regardless of the money I have focused on other areas and have made more than I EVER did selling pot/coke/e/shrooms/whatever and not to mention Legally and Safely.

Im truly apologetic to anyone who is caught up in the business even if they are blinded by the money cause in the end all it takes is one slip to truly get fucked for life and let me tell you none of it would have been worth it if you are in that shit situation
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: whowhatwhere on March 02, 2013, 11:42 pm
Wow, this is all very intense.. I'm keeping an eye on this thread.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: fredflintstone on March 03, 2013, 04:09 am
TheTeflonDon and CanadianForger are both MtlJohn IMO

CanadianForger just put up photos of his MDMA which are identical to CanadianLTD's old MDMA pics before he turned scam. The stuff he was trying to sell after he sold the methylone stuff

SamGiancana, I assume you are working out of or near MTL ?
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: fredflintstone on March 03, 2013, 04:13 am
TheTeflonDon and CanadianForger are both MtlJohn IMO

CanadianForger just put up photos of his MDMA which are identical to CanadianLTD's old MDMA pics before he turned scam. The stuff he was trying to sell after he sold the methylone stuff

SamGiancana, I assume you are working out of or near MTL ?

Appears Teflon has like 30 listings up now and is asking people for half FE's and shit.

Its gonna get messy.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: nanpa2001 on March 03, 2013, 06:22 am
TheTeflonDon and CanadianForger are both MtlJohn IMO

CanadianForger just put up photos of his MDMA which are identical to CanadianLTD's old MDMA pics before he turned scam. The stuff he was trying to sell after he sold the methylone stuff

SamGiancana, I assume you are working out of or near MTL ?

Appears Teflon has like 30 listings up now and is asking people for half FE's and shit.

Its gonna get messy.

Holy shit. This guy is like a one-man plague on SR.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: flashblock v2 on March 03, 2013, 06:32 am
Makes me sick to. hear this. I feel for you Sam.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: Smashmouth on March 03, 2013, 06:41 am
OP, why don't you describe the individuals you met in detail?

No scammer wants publicity for their physical characteristics... vehicle... general location... habits...

You get the idea. Sell him down the river.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on March 03, 2013, 05:46 pm
I'm sorry bro but you can see what's coming from a mile off in those text messages. The whole thing about "you give the 500g to my partner and he'll bring it to me, then I'll give him the cash I owe you to bring back to you", na if he owes you that cash he should hand it over at the same time as you give him the 500g. Don't trust anyone with that kind of money -it's not small change- no matter what history you've got.

This game isn't for you mate trust me, some people just aren't suited to it - that can be a good thing it means your a trusting person who isn't cold, hard and calculating. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and move on, lesson learned! Remember, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

Oh, and lastly, I bet that "partner" you met was really him, remember that face >:(


I honestly dont think the drug game is tailored for anyone... People shouldnt be exposed to such scum all the time and the paranoia is not worth any amount of money unless im the one sitting on top only making calls and sitting in an office somewhere..

People sell drugs because 1. the people they know/connection 2. Money

There are so many safer lines of work where the risk doesnt involve you being in danger, and I dont want to sound like I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth because I am far from that, but leaving the Drug Game "" was the best decision ive ever made in my life,

The quality of life goes up when you are not selling.. Regardless of the money I have focused on other areas and have made more than I EVER did selling pot/coke/e/shrooms/whatever and not to mention Legally and Safely.

Im truly apologetic to anyone who is caught up in the business even if they are blinded by the money cause in the end all it takes is one slip to truly get fucked for life and let me tell you none of it would have been worth it if you are in that shit situation

I just see the Drug Game"" the same as any business practice except with less control, business practice taken to it ultimate conclusion per se.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: SamGiancana on March 03, 2013, 05:55 pm
The only reason I was so dumb to do this was we had done multiple transactions before requiring 1 person to make the first move, and for amounts this large.
I didn't forsee him valuing my future business with him at 10 K as I am pretty sure he's already made more just in dealing with me legit in that profit wise.
Hes a chug / hawaiian looking guy, and I know what he drives and he will be dealt with if I ever see him again.
You cant trust anyone, I am too trusting a person.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: clownbaby on March 03, 2013, 10:35 pm
So wait...I shouldn't FE for a .5 of blow tonight I guess eh? Lol
The FE was in exchange for free shipping.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: edar on March 03, 2013, 10:40 pm
Avoid this seller  >:(
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: CanadianForger on March 03, 2013, 11:38 pm
TheTeflonDon and CanadianForger are both MtlJohn IMO

CanadianForger just put up photos of his MDMA which are identical to CanadianLTD's old MDMA pics before he turned scam. The stuff he was trying to sell after he sold the methylone stuff

SamGiancana, I assume you are working out of or near MTL ?

I thought we should address this, we usually don't get involved in rumors or heresay, but since our name was mentioned we feel we should. I'm not sure what your issue with us is Luciiano but you've made a few comments about our product now, starting with our first batch of powdered MDMA. We have had no issues with you and even commended your product. We have no idea who "MTLJOHN" is but we find your reasoning for accusing us of being this scammer pretty suspect. Let's summarize:

Your "evidence"
1) Our new MDMA looks like pictures he posted

Ours:

1) We started off providing a different batch then the current one
2) We don't ask users to FE on our orders
3) We have 100% feedback on 62 transactions

Please provide more information, because right now it just looks like your slandering a fellow vendor while you're laying low. There's plenty of customers to go around. I think you should be more concerned with your controlled deliveries on multiple customers, rather than making false accusations on baseless evidence such as "similar pictures".

- CF
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on March 04, 2013, 12:31 am
Any of the LEO's lurking around here willing to track this guy's phone number? If this actually happened that sucks man, I hope things look up. Was about to place an order with TheTeflonDon, I'll wait and see what comes of this.

I'm starting to think there's only like two people in Canada, Lucky and a scammer with a shit load of identities.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: LEFTY on March 04, 2013, 02:15 am
I'm starting to think there's only like two people in Canada, Lucky and a scammer with a shit load of identities.

It's all that Poutine they eat... makes em crazy!
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: edar on March 04, 2013, 10:31 am
Any of the LEO's lurking around here willing to track this guy's phone number? If this actually happened that sucks man, I hope things look up. Was about to place an order with TheTeflonDon, I'll wait and see what comes of this.

I'm starting to think there's only like two people in Canada, Lucky and a scammer with a shit load of identities.
Its Easy money getiing newbies to F.e ....  KEEP AWAY   >:(
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: AussieMitch on March 04, 2013, 11:30 am
Reading this thread made me a little sad. SamGiancana you sound like a nice guy who keeps getting fucked over in bad situations every time he tries to pick himself back up. You don't deserve this shit, but you can definitely avoid it happening to you again if you change the way you operate.

Firstly a piece of advice: always start SMALL with new people and work up the size of the deals so that if they fuck you over you still come out ahead, and make it not in their best interests to fuck you over.

I'll give you an example, when I first started dealing with Limitless, I saw that he required FE, so I structured my deals with him the following way:

Order 1: 10 grams FE (Because I could easily afford to lose the BTC)
Order 2: 3 x 10 gram packages FE (Using the profit from the first 10 grams)
Order 3: 2 x 20 gram packages & 1x 10 gram package FE (Using the profit from the second order)
Order 4: 3 x 25 gram packages FE (Using the profit from the third order)
Order 5 and onwards: 3 x 50 gram packages

As you can see, at any point if he had fucked me over I still came out ahead financially, and the longer I dealt with him the better off I was. He did eventually fuck me over for 150grams, but only after I had already got more than 700grams off him, so on the whole the entire operation with him was worth it. Now he's the one worse off, because now I've started the same deal with a different Mephedrone vendor and he has lost all my future business.

I implement this sort of strategy with everyone have to FE for on Silk Road, so no matter what happens, I come out ahead financially. I also use a similar structure with my customers in real life. I start off a little more expensive doing smaller deals, and I work up over time so that at any point if someone goes to jail or gets robbed while holding my product, I have still made money from them. I also don't deal with anyone who's address and friendship network I don't know (so I can track them down if necessary), and I don't front product to anyone if I'm not close enough to them that I've had dinner with their parents. You made a monumental miscalculation trusting someone online based only on their word and reputation, with no system in place to protect yourself if something went bad. Please don't repeat this mistake.

I only went to the effort writing all this because, like I said earlier, you do seem like a genuinely nice guy, and if you run your business a bit smarter I'm sure you will do ok here.

Best wishes and good luck mate.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: whowhatwhere on March 04, 2013, 09:12 pm
Reading this thread made me a little sad. SamGiancana you sound like a nice guy who keeps getting fucked over in bad situations every time he tries to pick himself back up. You don't deserve this shit, but you can definitely avoid it happening to you again if you change the way you operate.

Firstly a piece of advice: always start SMALL with new people and work up the size of the deals so that if they fuck you over you still come out ahead, and make it not in their best interests to fuck you over.

I'll give you an example, when I first started dealing with Limitless, I saw that he required FE, so I structured my deals with him the following way:

Order 1: 10 grams FE (Because I could easily afford to lose the BTC)
Order 2: 3 x 10 gram packages FE (Using the profit from the first 10 grams)
Order 3: 2 x 20 gram packages & 1x 10 gram package FE (Using the profit from the second order)
Order 4: 3 x 25 gram packages FE (Using the profit from the third order)
Order 5 and onwards: 3 x 50 gram packages

As you can see, at any point if he had fucked me over I still came out ahead financially, and the longer I dealt with him the better off I was. He did eventually fuck me over for 150grams, but only after I had already got more than 700grams off him, so on the whole the entire operation with him was worth it. Now he's the one worse off, because now I've started the same deal with a different Mephedrone vendor and he has lost all my future business.

I implement this sort of strategy with everyone have to FE for on Silk Road, so no matter what happens, I come out ahead financially. I also use a similar structure with my customers in real life. I start off a little more expensive doing smaller deals, and I work up over time so that at any point if someone goes to jail or gets robbed while holding my product, I have still made money from them. I also don't deal with anyone who's address and friendship network I don't know (so I can track them down if necessary), and I don't front product to anyone if I'm not close enough to them that I've had dinner with their parents. You made a monumental miscalculation trusting someone online based only on their word and reputation, with no system in place to protect yourself if something went bad. Please don't repeat this mistake.

I only went to the effort writing all this because, like I said earlier, you do seem like a genuinely nice guy, and if you run your business a bit smarter I'm sure you will do ok here.

Best wishes and good luck mate.
+1, good post and good advice.  You work it like I used to.  One thing though, Limetless scammed you??  Really?  That's crazy to hear, he's always seemed like such a legit vendor.  I'm sorry to hear that happened.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: Jediknight on March 05, 2013, 06:08 pm
He's got tons of new listings at insane low prices. . . FE FE FE FE FE   

I was almost tempted to place an order :-)    They are so low. .

Anyway, he's setting up for a run.  That's pretty obvious.  He's got a special on 20% off everything if ordered this week...

Damn, I wish they would sell their account instead of run like this ....  giving us Canadians a band name.

Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: whowhatwhere on March 05, 2013, 08:51 pm
He's got tons of new listings at insane low prices. . . FE FE FE FE FE   

I was almost tempted to place an order :-)    They are so low. .

Anyway, he's setting up for a run.  That's pretty obvious.  He's got a special on 20% off everything if ordered this week...

Damn, I wish they would sell their account instead of run like this ....  giving us Canadians a band name.

To be fair, he isn't demanding that anyone FE.. he just states that shipping will be free if you do FE.  This is also the second 20% off sale he's had, the first one was a few weeks back.  There hasn't been a single person whose said that they haven't received an order from him, in fact I was sent ~200mg of cocaine for free to give a review on it and it was fantastic stuff.  I'm not saying that there isn't the possibility that he is a scammer or that he won't run with your money if you FE but aside from what Sam wrote in this thread, there is no other evidence that he is a scammer.  He can't scam you though if you leave your money in escrow like everyone should be doing anyway!
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: fredflintstone on March 05, 2013, 08:56 pm
I have no horse in this race. He doesnt sell MDMA, I am not currently working and he is not competition.

But the fact he has clearly ripped off Sam Giancana this past week and now holds an Express shipping sale ( which everyone would need to sign for dont forget even if he did ship it ) makes no sense.

XpressPost to the USA is $30 minimum and include signature on delivery, so that comes FREE on a $60 and $69 gram ?!?!

You have to be kidding me guys, do the math
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: jnemonic on March 05, 2013, 09:17 pm
I dont think he is scamming. I sent him a message about it, he said i'm to stay in escrow and not to finalize till i receive the package.

But after everything and the warnings i received, i decided not to order. If this is a vendor war between you vendors, i'm far from impressed for i was about to order charlie for the first time! :P
Ha ha, anyway, Don seems really nice, heres Dons reply to me.

JneMonic,

I'm not going rogue I plan to be here till this site dies out..or I retire. But I wouldn't cash out when I retire, I treat this industry like any other business.

Regards,

The Don

So guys i dont think he is scamming...did he ask for FE on the last 20% off sale...?
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on March 05, 2013, 09:28 pm
He's got tons of new listings at insane low prices. . . FE FE FE FE FE   

I was almost tempted to place an order :-)    They are so low. .

Anyway, he's setting up for a run.  That's pretty obvious.  He's got a special on 20% off everything if ordered this week...

Damn, I wish they would sell their account instead of run like this ....  giving us Canadians a band name.

When will people learn! this has RED FLAG written all over it and on the face of it is text book FE scam exit strategy.

If it's too good to be true (price) then it is.

Sudden increase in FE screams AVOID!

I don't care who the vendor is, if you see this type of activity happening you should exercise caution and use your common sense.

Nice PM's and reassuring posts don't count for shit I'm afraid jnemonic, any vendor playing the game would employ these tactics.

You have been warned people.

Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: jnemonic on March 05, 2013, 09:46 pm
Yeah i know ssbd, even not having to FE, i'd still have to pay 35% or whatever it is.
Just read a  review and an aussie just received, so who knows. But advice taken...lets just see what happens...
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: edar on March 06, 2013, 12:32 am
Well you have been warned  :(  from hero member too  ;) Dont come crying when he takes your btc...seen it all before   loads of times

DONT F.E ..  EVER
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: jnemonic on March 06, 2013, 12:46 am
Well you have been warned  :(  from hero member too  ;) Dont come crying when he takes your btc...seen it all before   loads of times

DONT F.E ..  EVER

I didnt order Edgar, but nearly did. Ordered from someone else. ;)
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: dittoa12b3c on March 06, 2013, 09:58 am
i don't know about this myself it seem's a bit suss... But it doesn't make any sense, i made a purchase with teflon before all this bs came about and I got mine express, tracking and all I don't think he's a scammer, it smells like competition trying to roll him if you ask me... anyway i have this thread subscribed so if I get my package (hopefully its not an empty parcel) i'll report back....
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: fredflintstone on March 06, 2013, 10:22 am
The people warning people to watch out arent his competition.

He doesnt sell what me or Sam Giacana does

And how does he reply to the message logs Sam posted ? He doesnt.

I dont care if you guys buy his stuff, I am just telling you watch out. Same way I have on others ...

Peace
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: White 0ut on March 06, 2013, 10:33 am
Just because OP gets took 3 times a week it's not our problem as a community. Your RL shit, whether it was with a vendor or not doesn't have shit to do with SR. I can see where your pissed about the BTC part but fuck man I would trust someone who is known in the community as a pro money launderer or badass computer whiz that really knows their shit & has reviews.
 NOT A METH DEALER<<<<

So what we have learned here is.....
1. Get a gun FOR FUCK SAKE, if you move this much "weight" but can't even stay strapped up? Get a concealed carry. But in reality some home defense weapons.
2. Just quit, Im not saying you don't make a lot of money, Im not saying your an idiot, I am saying clearly this is NOT working out for you. Count your fucking losses, be grateful your even alive. If you do want to continue, tone it down a notch or two until you recover!
3. If you don't know who a vendor is for a fucking FACT don't go calling out their shit on here because a picture of MDMA looks like another picture of you guessed it MDMA!!!
People have a rep to establish and uphold so lets try to respect that! I think we should leave a vendors rep to be determined by their forum reviews from their product. Not a comparison with another bad vendors picture.

Just my 2 BTC. I'm really not even trying to be negative man but this is some real shit happening to you man & it could have been much worse!
-W0
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: kingpinirl on March 06, 2013, 10:21 pm
I agree with White Out - Get out of this business.  The drug game is a small market regardless of where you live.  There are only so many players in any given area and WORD GETS OUT!  I'd be willing to bet there are 20 small/mid level dealers in your area that know you just got jacked.  I've seen it personally - this will continue to happen to you.  By now, so many people probably know about it that even if you were to do something about it (ie all of the gun references), you would be arrested because of your retaliatory actions.   

Once your reputation has been stepped on it's pretty much over.  You seem like a good guy - a nice guy.  It is very hard to be in this business with that attitude.  Unless you are selling on SR 100% (and only have one source), you run the risk of being jacked.  The only way I could suggest you continue in this business is if you move to the US, import large quantities of coke/mdma/etc from the Netherlands, and resell at a mark-up on SR like UGS does.  Local dealing doesn't seem like it is a fit for ya brother.

Hang in there.  Count this all as a life lesson.  Find other ways to get by.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: edar on March 06, 2013, 10:55 pm
The people warning people to watch out arent his competition.

He doesnt sell what me or Sam Giacana does

And how does he reply to the message logs Sam posted ? He doesnt.

I dont care if you guys buy his stuff, I am just telling you watch out. Same way I have on others ...

Peace

Some folk dont listen bud..greed  thats how they get them,the old ponsy scam  the buyer thinks hes getting a bargain or something we all aint ..I dunno what pycology is used but it works (i.e Advert on t.v )  how many scams we seen now mate ???  & yet no one listens coz the greed(im getting a bargain) outways the logic....lucky im a buyer and a good guy coz how easy would  be to be a seller and  steal the newbies btc... too easy... thats why they the  scammer come back on Sr , they just sit on their fat arses stealing money & making all the promises then excuses in the world ...it was sent ,50% refund etc etc etc
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: obiwanjabroni on March 07, 2013, 04:24 pm
Hey guys, like you I felt bad for SamGiancan's horrible luck first getting home invaded and then his aparent robbery by TeflonDon. I recently purchased some of sam's coke and it arrived March 3rd Not only was it the worst coke I have ever done, I seriously question if there was any coke in the package at all. I was so disapointed as I believed Sam and actually felt bad for his "run of bad luck" I tried for 4 days asking him if he sent me something else by mistake, did a partner of his send it and if he personally tested the coke before sending it to me. I figured that way I would know if he was a liar as no good vendor would have let that shit in the mailbox. Regardless, after asking him to make it right and he responded the coke is high quality and I am the only custy to complain. I asked him if I could send it back to him but he has now told me to find a new vendor.
The coke left so much shit in the spoon, seriously the worst coke I have ever had the coke was completely undetectable and clogged up the rig, never felt a thing. So now I have ordered off TeflonDon as I think I may have jumped to conclusions listening to Sam. So that's my dealings with SamGianca and I will let you know how my dealings with TeflonDon. Nothing worse than being excited about getting your coke only to open it and realize this aint coke! I've been had! signed a little more wiser buyer who will think twice the next time I hear such a sad story, I shoulda known this is the dope game, there's no room for sympathy only keeping your word and being straight up-obi
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: edar on March 08, 2013, 11:44 pm
yeh dunno If I believe all the shit from both of them I was just pointing out that if any the 2 ask for F.e  then they aint (both ) no good, my mate said the meth from sam was ok to good  but he didnt f.e
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on March 12, 2013, 08:01 pm
This vendors SR page is now pages and pages of FE!!!

RED FLAG - SCAM IN PROGRESS!!

This is Mtljohn, I posted a warning re this a week ago, DO NOT FE!!
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: wraithe on March 12, 2013, 08:37 pm
SR should have a way to disable FE, or fe with admin aproval on suspect cases.  maybe an auto system when so many FEs are initiated that are above the average of FEs that vendor normally gets

or maybe a front page when you log in for warnings when people are on "the watch" list
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on March 12, 2013, 08:51 pm
SR should have a way to disable FE, or fe with admin aproval on suspect cases.  maybe an auto system when so many FEs are initiated that are above the average of FEs that vendor normally gets

or maybe a front page when you log in for warnings when people are on "the watch" list

A sudden increase in FE transactions should always be considered highly suspicious by buyers, even those who do not frequent the forums often should be able to spot a scam unfolding and exercise caution. Of course not FE as per the buyers guide instructions and using the protection of escrow will also prevent you from being scammed.

DO NOT FE.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: whowhatwhere on March 12, 2013, 09:23 pm
Has anyone noticed that SamGiancana (the creator of this thread) is no longer a vendor?  Interesting...
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on March 12, 2013, 09:31 pm
Has anyone noticed that SamGiancana (the creator of this thread) is no longer a vendor?  Interesting...

After recent events I'm not surprised really, whatever is going on re TheTeflonDon we will all know soon enough I guess. The best advice as always is do not FE no matter who the vendor is though, especially one listing too good to be true prices then asking people to go OOE and FE. If it really is the sale of the century and everyone gets their HQ coke at discounted prices after FE I will eat humble pie but for now use your head people and exercise caution and common sense please.

Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: Marlon Brando on March 12, 2013, 09:34 pm
Yah right now I am not saying anything I am just pissed at the shitty sales tactic, even if all the sales do go through.

to discontinue a free shipping option and replace it with a FREE shipping option but needing to FE just makes me angry, I don't want to pay $30-40 for shipping when I know the rough location of the vendor and express isn't needed.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: jnemonic on March 12, 2013, 09:41 pm
I've only seen one person say they have received, actually 2, thats not many out of how many orders....someone on dons review thread have mentioned they havent received, but that could be anything, customs, dogs, etc..

But the price alone rings alarm bells...makes no sense to sell top notch coke for that price and offer free tracked shipping... ???
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on March 12, 2013, 09:51 pm
I've only seen one person say they have received, actually 2, thats not many out of how many orders....someone on dons review thread have mentioned they havent received, but that could be anything, customs, dogs, etc..

But the price alone rings alarm bells...makes no sense to sell top notch coke for that price and offer free tracked shipping... ???

PRECISELY!!

I cannot understand why so many people are beguiled by offers like this and take leave of their senses.

Wow the nice vendor scammed me! but they seemed like such a nice drug dealer via PM over the anonymous darknet when they asked me to release my funds.

C'mon get a grip please.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: TeflonDon on March 12, 2013, 10:09 pm
Please read carefully before accusing someone. I do not ask anyone to finalize early it is simply an OPTION that you may choose if you wish, choose it and you'll be entitled for free shipping this is a simple marketing gimmick which not only helps generate sales/rep but also gives me time for the orders that were delivered but the clients aren't finalizing when supposed to (I have receipts confirming delivery).

Again it is simple an OPTION to choose to finalize you DO NOT have to finalize early..read carefully next time.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on March 13, 2013, 04:21 am
Please read carefully before accusing someone. I do not ask anyone to finalize early it is simply an OPTION that you may choose if you wish, choose it and you'll be entitled for free shipping this is a simple marketing gimmick which not only helps generate sales/rep but also gives me time for the orders that were delivered but the clients aren't finalizing when supposed to (I have receipts confirming delivery).

Again it is simple an OPTION to choose to finalize you DO NOT have to finalize early..read carefully next time.

So where is your vendor account then mate? SCAM!!

Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: scout on March 13, 2013, 04:30 am
Scammer.  Stay away.  Glad to see the staff has removed his vendor privileges.
Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on March 13, 2013, 04:34 am
Have been calling this for over a week posting across multiple threads trying to warn people yet hoards of buyers still FE, I just do not get it.

Title: Re: █ BUYERS BEWARE - THETEFLONDON IS NOW SCAMMING - FOURTH TRANSACTION STOLE 10 K █
Post by: jnemonic on March 13, 2013, 04:44 am
Damn the ball has dropped, thank you to everyone who gave me the heads up, much appreciated. ;)