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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: schmuckboy on March 01, 2013, 07:33 pm
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Is it? ???
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If you're in the US, it's not illegal to simply view SR...if you're in a country like China or North Korea, then i'd have to say you better hope you're covering your tracks lol...as for Europe or anywhere else really, im not too sure.
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yes it's.
what do you believe, is the same if you look child porn.
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yes it's.
what do you believe, is the same if you look child porn.
Looking at child porn is illegal... reading is not...
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I think it is "highly suspicious", but not illegal. At least not in Australia. Otherwise the journalists who periodically write articles about SR would be a lot more circumspect.
Dimitry from Straya
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Maybe not illegal but with the technology available there is no reason to allow others to see your SR forum activity IRL.
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Well, all of that depends on the country you live in and their federal, state and local laws. Generally, I would say no. It is not illegal to view silkroad for that matter. What is illegal however, is how you choose to use that resource, e.g. simply going to a website which contains documents and other information that 'teaches' you how to grow your own weed, or create your own synthetic drugs, etc. viewing that information wouldn't 'technically' be illegal, (unless it's under strict protection or is only for access by authorized users; such as government files, etc.) - it all goes down on how you choose to use the information. If you choose to use that information as a basis for growing your own weed, or making your own synthetic drugs, or distributing it then yes; it becomes illegal. Therefore, viewing silkroad isn't illegal, buying drugs from the marketplace however is.
It's not the best explanation but I hope I put it in a way you could easily understand, I'm sure you can find out a lot more by using a simple Google search.
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Sure isn't. In almost any country
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no, of course not.
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While viewing SR in most countries is itself legal, if you get arrested for something else and they seize your computer, it most certainly can be used against you in court. US prosecutors routinely use Google search histories as well.
I'm not sure about this, but I wonder if evidence of using TOR could be grounds for a search warrant?
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SR has many categories of items that are perfectly legal to buy, no matter where you live.
I'm here for the books.......... ;)
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I dont beleive it is, but i could easily be wrong
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As far as my understanding of US law goes, it is illegal to visit silk road if you have the intention of using it for illegal purposes. Of course LE has to prove that you intended to use it for illegal purposes, and if you didn't actually use it - that would be pretty near impossible to prove.
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Enjoy that freedom while you can US...if the feds have it their way the internet is going to be a lot smaller place one day soon....
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No but it probably will be in the US soon.
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Why would it be illegal to view/read something??
Is it illegal to go watch/read the bottles of liquor and cigarettes in a supermarket when you're under the legal age?
The only exception I can think of is looking at child porn.
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I saw a news clip about SR and even though LEO/LEA is very aware of SR's presence on the dark net, it isn't illegal to be curious.
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SR has many categories of items that are perfectly legal to buy, no matter where you live.
I'm here for the books.......... ;)
I'm here for the sheets ;)
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No.
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Shamiroqai said it best, it's not illegal to look at beer in the store so why should it be illegal to look at drugs on the internet? Hell, you can look at online pharmacies that offer a lot of the products that are on SR and those businesses are legal.
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surely not. But if we (Americans) don't start watching our politicians and voting wisely, all our freedom will be gone before we know it. What is up with the gun control B.S.?
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surely not. But if we (Americans) don't start watching our politicians and voting wisely, all our freedom will be gone before we know it. What is up with the gun control B.S.?
I don't really think its bs considering not every citzen really needs, or should have access to, fully automatic assault rifles equipped with armor penetrating bullets. But it's probably too late for that now, and especially after this gun control law because now everyone is crowding gun stores like its a grand opening for wal-mart.
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surely not. But if we (Americans) don't start watching our politicians and voting wisely, all our freedom will be gone before we know it. What is up with the gun control B.S.?
I don't really think its bs considering not every citzen really needs, or should have access to, fully automatic assault rifles equipped with armor penetrating bullets. But it's probably too late for that now, and especially after this gun control law because now everyone is crowding gun stores like its a grand opening for wal-mart.
Really not trying to get into a political argument here, but just think about it, your right not every citizen needs a military grade weapon, but they should have access to them. The people that want these weapons with bad intentions are going to get them regardless of what the law is, this gives a disadvantage to the people who want the weapons simply to defend themselves.. Just something to think about.
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Shamiroqai said it best, it's not illegal to look at beer in the store so why should it be illegal to look at drugs on the internet? Hell, you can look at online pharmacies that offer a lot of the products that are on SR and those businesses are legal.
I agree as well, but also reiterate my last point. It is just highly suspicious, in the same way that a bunch of 16 year olds hang out in a liquor store would be seen as suspicious by the owner. There's nothing wrong with it, but once the owner, or in the case of SR, the "AUTHORITIES" know you are are doing it, they are more likely to be keeping an eye on you. In Australia, I reckon the feds would take a good hard look at you, and your PC and everything you do, and in the process, you could lose everything, cos not many employers will hold onto someone who is associated with SR, or employ someone known to have "drug issues"
Just my two cents.
Cheers.
Dimitry from Strays
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In the USA under Ryan Haight Online Pharmacy Act it is illegal to even be a member of an internet forum that exists for the primary purpose of breaking drug laws, so it is probably technically illegal to register to the forum. But chances of being prosecuted for this are nearly zero.
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actually correction, it doesn't make it illegal to be a member here, but does make it illegal to tell other people about this website.
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Not illegal to have a look ;)
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surely not. But if we (Americans) don't start watching our politicians and voting wisely, all our freedom will be gone before we know it. What is up with the gun control B.S.?
I've been hearing this sentiment a lot lately that things aren't looking very good for us Americans in the future as far as our freedoms go. And I have to admit there are some thins happening that causes concern. Patriot act, NDAA, now the recent push for gun control which some believe will eventually lead to gun confiscation and a gun ban. On the subject of gun control there were some pics circulating on the internet about DHS training their people to shoot gun holding civilian looking targets including the likes of pregnant ladies, children, and the elderly. Is this legit? If so, very disturbing.
My only question is what can we truly do? When learning about dictatorships in history classes while growing up I was always fascinated with how the people could have possibly let it happen. It's always this feeling of this will never happen to me, or this would never happen here, things won't get that bad etc. But the signs would be there and I guess we as humans tend to enter denial when faced with highly unpleasant things. Can't help but wonder if many of us are falling into the same trap.
I'm seriously thinking about maybe moving to another country before shit hits the fan but I'm not sure which country. How's Canada doing on the whole liberty and freedoms situation in comparison to America? Plus not sure if I want to leave all my family and love ones. It's a tough decision but if things get worse I will ponder it deeper and deeper.
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Food for thought:
I think if you want to get to the bottom of what's behind any world event or series of events, always take a look at who (which government or powerful entity) stands to benefit from it the most. Very similar to the old "follow the money" adage....
And as for our guns.....
I don't think we're in for any sweeping legislation quite yet, as even quite of the more liberal leaning folks here aren't quite comfortable with the idea of giving up guns - a lot of them just aren't being too vocal about it, for fear of not appearing liberal enough...
My take on it is that it's too late to take away guns. Even the lower quality ones are made to close enough tolerances that you could put one in a box for 500 years and when you pulled it out, it would still be functional. Maybe the ammo would fail but, my point is - guns take a lot time to disintegrate / fall apart on their own. If you take away our guns, only the criminals will have them.
If all guns would suddenly evaporate and be gone from the planet, I would be fine with that, but that's not going to happen.
And eventually, doesn't every government use weapons against it's own citizens? It's naive to think that couldn't happen here....
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no.. no.. lemon pledge
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no
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In the USA under Ryan Haight Online Pharmacy Act it is illegal to even be a member of an internet forum that exists for the primary purpose of breaking drug laws, so it is probably technically illegal to register to the forum. But chances of being prosecuted for this are nearly zero.
wtf? Freedom is going away, what I have to read here about Australia and the US makes me sad :(
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Yes. You are under arrest, please put your arms behind your back. Watch your head getting into the car.
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Yes it is illegal to look at Silk Road! If you know what you're looking at then you're an accessory. For instance say you have kids and you go into your kids room and still see Silk Road on the screen, As soon as you realise what it is, Its illegal. I don't think you could look at this sites first page and not know what it is! :D
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How can it be illegal to look at pictures of drugs?
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I don't really think its bs considering not every citzen really needs, or should have access to, fully automatic assault rifles equipped with armor penetrating bullets. But it's probably too late for that now, and especially after this gun control law because now everyone is crowding gun stores like its a grand opening for wal-mart.
It is better to have a gun and not need one, than to need a gun and not have one.
If you have your government assess firearm owners mental capacities in a thorough way, less psychopathic murderers will have access to them.
This comes from a dude in Australia, where civilian ownership of automatic and semi-automatic rifles has been outlawed. Now only the military and police have automatic and semi-automatic firearms so the government is one step ahead of any kind of protesting about anything. They try to control us like marionettes, they tell us what we want, they tell us what we can and cannot do, they tell us when we can and cannot do it.
Don't let your government take your guns, if you do, your country will go down the shitter, just like this one.
ImSoBad: You appear to have a lot of faith in the people who run and secure the country you live in. People you have never met once in your life and the only thing you likely know about these people is what you here off glitzy morning television programs. These people have literally millions of automatic weapons and if they order their subordinates to do so, they will murder you and your family without thinking twice about it.
Now you may not have a problem with this, but myself and millions of other people in this world do have a very big problem with that. We only want the same type of security that the politicians have for themselves, to be able to defend our lives and our property with equal force.
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Yes because I am sure you came here to simply view
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Guns (and any industry associated with them, including but not limited to gun shops, ranges, gun clubs, training courses, peoples careers as shooters) were wiped out here in just a few short months.
People willingly handed their guns in for money that we gave to the government in tax dollars. That's right, they bought our guns back off us with our own fucking money!
It happened because of the Port Arthur Massacre in 1996 (read up about it on the net)
Basically - the Aussie media (Kerry Packer and Rupert Murdoch) television, radio, newspapers and internet (in its infancy) all went berserk over it, one newspaper illegaly went ahead and printed the suspected gunmans face as a full size front page, BEFORE any the witnesses were interviewed by police, thereby tainting any of their testimonies that Bryant was NOT the gunman.
Then these witnesses to the massacre of 37 humans, were not called to trial to be asked their accounts of what happened?! (because bryant pleaded guilty)
Mentally handicapped Martin Bryant, with the mind of an 11 year old kid, is rotting in Tasmanias Risdon Prison, having pleaded guilty to 37 murders after being interrogated by two high ranking detectives (one named Detective Payne) for 3 months before the farce of a trial by media. Let's not forget to mention that (in 1996) the police tapes (audio and video) were alleged to be having 'technical difficulties', as a result, more than HALF of the interrogation has been lost or deleted from public record.
LIFE TIMES 37!
Media: MONSTER!!! MANIAC!!! MURDERER!!! Journalists even went to the low point of knocking on Bryants mothers kitchen windows at night to get a story about it. They couldn't get enough of all this blood.
So the aussie public believed everything they heard without question, all the morning TV shows telling them that "giving up our guns" is the right thing to do and will end all murders everywhere.
They still bring it up every year, they have a fucking anniversary of The Port Arthur Massacre, fucking rude bastards. Salt in the wound for the victims families.
I have had correspondence with a few people who were investigated by the Tasmanian Police in the aftermath of the massacre. One former gun shop owner, who was supposed to have been the one who sold Bryant the guns he supposedly used in the killings, has had his life ruined by the police for not, 'bending' to what they wanted him to do (they wanted him to lie in his statement about what happened, is all can really say).
Others who i have talked to that were involved with what happened, all have the same opinion of the Tasmanian Police Farce.
Oh! I forgot to mention how the prime minister at the time, John Winston Howard, had a 30 year embargo put on any evidence. He also had the main crime scene (Broad Arrow Cafe) demolished as a 'respect' to the victims families (wtf?!). He also illegally denied a Coronial Inquest into the matter, Australias BIGGEST mass-shooting EVER and there is no investigation by an independent party?! another WTF?!?!
Getting off topic a bit :P sorry, i'm done now. But seriously people, Think for Yourself and Question Authority!
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I often come here to just whack-off at the pretty pictures of drugs. Drug porn. Nothing illegal about that.
Heck, you can even order many perfectly legal items from the road such as the vibrating pussy or even Viagra/cialis which are legal and found on many clear net sites as well.
I know I buy with confidence.
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I hope not
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Guns (and any industry associated with them, including but not limited to gun shops, ranges, gun clubs, training courses, peoples careers as shooters) were wiped out here in just a few short months.
People willingly handed their guns in for money that we gave to the government in tax dollars. That's right, they bought our guns back off us with our own fucking money!
It happened because of the Port Arthur Massacre in 1996 (read up about it on the net)
Basically - the Aussie media (Kerry Packer and Rupert Murdoch) television, radio, newspapers and internet (in its infancy) all went berserk over it, one newspaper illegaly went ahead and printed the suspected gunmans face as a full size front page, BEFORE any the witnesses were interviewed by police, thereby tainting any of their testimonies that Bryant was NOT the gunman.
Then these witnesses to the massacre of 37 humans, were not called to trial to be asked their accounts of what happened?! (because bryant pleaded guilty)
Mentally handicapped Martin Bryant, with the mind of an 11 year old kid, is rotting in Tasmanias Risdon Prison, having pleaded guilty to 37 murders after being interrogated by two high ranking detectives (one named Detective Payne) for 3 months before the farce of a trial by media. Let's not forget to mention that (in 1996) the police tapes (audio and video) were alleged to be having 'technical difficulties', as a result, more than HALF of the interrogation has been lost or deleted from public record.
LIFE TIMES 37!
Media: MONSTER!!! MANIAC!!! MURDERER!!! Journalists even went to the low point of knocking on Bryants mothers kitchen windows at night to get a story about it. They couldn't get enough of all this blood.
So the aussie public believed everything they heard without question, all the morning TV shows telling them that "giving up our guns" is the right thing to do and will end all murders everywhere.
They still bring it up every year, they have a fucking anniversary of The Port Arthur Massacre, fucking rude bastards. Salt in the wound for the victims families.
I have had correspondence with a few people who were investigated by the Tasmanian Police in the aftermath of the massacre. One former gun shop owner, who was supposed to have been the one who sold Bryant the guns he supposedly used in the killings, has had his life ruined by the police for not, 'bending' to what they wanted him to do (they wanted him to lie in his statement about what happened, is all can really say).
Others who i have talked to that were involved with what happened, all have the same opinion of the Tasmanian Police Farce.
Oh! I forgot to mention how the prime minister at the time, John Winston Howard, had a 30 year embargo put on any evidence. He also had the main crime scene (Broad Arrow Cafe) demolished as a 'respect' to the victims families (wtf?!). He also illegally denied a Coronial Inquest into the matter, Australias BIGGEST mass-shooting EVER and there is no investigation by an independent party?! another WTF?!?!
Getting off topic a bit :P sorry, i'm done now. But seriously people, Think for Yourself and Question Authority!
Very informative post. Was not aware of this.
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Don't take my word for it, read it all for yourself, it's all available on the internet.
At least until 'they' ban the free exchange of information.
Which is not too far away.
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No. Information should never become illegal
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Guns (and any industry associated with them, including but not limited to gun shops, ranges, gun clubs, training courses, peoples careers as shooters) were wiped out here in just a few short months.
People willingly handed their guns in for money that we gave to the government in tax dollars. That's right, they bought our guns back off us with our own fucking money!
It happened because of the Port Arthur Massacre in 1996 (read up about it on the net)
Basically - the Aussie media (Kerry Packer and Rupert Murdoch) television, radio, newspapers and internet (in its infancy) all went berserk over it, one newspaper illegaly went ahead and printed the suspected gunmans face as a full size front page, BEFORE any the witnesses were interviewed by police, thereby tainting any of their testimonies that Bryant was NOT the gunman.
Then these witnesses to the massacre of 37 humans, were not called to trial to be asked their accounts of what happened?! (because bryant pleaded guilty)
Mentally handicapped Martin Bryant, with the mind of an 11 year old kid, is rotting in Tasmanias Risdon Prison, having pleaded guilty to 37 murders after being interrogated by two high ranking detectives (one named Detective Payne) for 3 months before the farce of a trial by media. Let's not forget to mention that (in 1996) the police tapes (audio and video) were alleged to be having 'technical difficulties', as a result, more than HALF of the interrogation has been lost or deleted from public record.
LIFE TIMES 37!
Media: MONSTER!!! MANIAC!!! MURDERER!!! Journalists even went to the low point of knocking on Bryants mothers kitchen windows at night to get a story about it. They couldn't get enough of all this blood.
So the aussie public believed everything they heard without question, all the morning TV shows telling them that "giving up our guns" is the right thing to do and will end all murders everywhere.
They still bring it up every year, they have a fucking anniversary of The Port Arthur Massacre, fucking rude bastards. Salt in the wound for the victims families.
I have had correspondence with a few people who were investigated by the Tasmanian Police in the aftermath of the massacre. One former gun shop owner, who was supposed to have been the one who sold Bryant the guns he supposedly used in the killings, has had his life ruined by the police for not, 'bending' to what they wanted him to do (they wanted him to lie in his statement about what happened, is all can really say).
Others who i have talked to that were involved with what happened, all have the same opinion of the Tasmanian Police Farce.
Oh! I forgot to mention how the prime minister at the time, John Winston Howard, had a 30 year embargo put on any evidence. He also had the main crime scene (Broad Arrow Cafe) demolished as a 'respect' to the victims families (wtf?!). He also illegally denied a Coronial Inquest into the matter, Australias BIGGEST mass-shooting EVER and there is no investigation by an independent party?! another WTF?!?!
Getting off topic a bit :P sorry, i'm done now. But seriously people, Think for Yourself and Question Authority!
Great comment Fallknived....People in Amerika need to wake up soon...the Obamanation has taken more liberties with the constitution than the last 44 presidents combined. and they're not even attempting to hide it anymore!
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surely not. But if we (Americans) don't start watching our politicians and voting wisely, all our freedom will be gone before we know it. What is up with the gun control B.S.?
I've been hearing this sentiment a lot lately that things aren't looking very good for us Americans in the future as far as our freedoms go. And I have to admit there are some thins happening that causes concern. Patriot act, NDAA, now the recent push for gun control which some believe will eventually lead to gun confiscation and a gun ban. On the subject of gun control there were some pics circulating on the internet about DHS training their people to shoot gun holding civilian looking targets including the likes of pregnant ladies, children, and the elderly. Is this legit? If so, very disturbing.
My only question is what can we truly do? When learning about dictatorships in history classes while growing up I was always fascinated with how the people could have possibly let it happen. It's always this feeling of this will never happen to me, or this would never happen here, things won't get that bad etc. But the signs would be there and I guess we as humans tend to enter denial when faced with highly unpleasant things. Can't help but wonder if many of us are falling into the same trap.
I'm seriously thinking about maybe moving to another country before shit hits the fan but I'm not sure which country. How's Canada doing on the whole liberty and freedoms situation in comparison to America? Plus not sure if I want to leave all my family and love ones. It's a tough decision but if things get worse I will ponder it deeper and deeper.
whooooaa bro.... shit just got deep in the SR forums!
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Don't think so, probably though ahhaha
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NOPE
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Australian police said in an article "NO, it's not!", but buying can be illegal. And a lot of compounds are not illegal even that are sold on silkroad, although they will fall under general medicine law.
Good luck buying.
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No, Its Not
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once the man is on your trail, everything you say or do, will be classified as illegal, until you prove, in a court of law, that all your tests and research are mere innocent curiosity, fully protected by the US constitution. as always, it will cost you $$$$ plenty!
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but its not illegal though. the onus is on them to prove, as the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt as it's crim case. you are innocent until proven guilty. i know im suppoesd tos hut my mouth but i had to reply to your reply. it's legal.
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surely not. But if we (Americans) don't start watching our politicians and voting wisely, all our freedom will be gone before we know it. What is up with the gun control B.S.?
I've been hearing this sentiment a lot lately that things aren't looking very good for us Americans in the future as far as our freedoms go. And I have to admit there are some thins happening that causes concern. Patriot act, NDAA, now the recent push for gun control which some believe will eventually lead to gun confiscation and a gun ban. On the subject of gun control there were some pics circulating on the internet about DHS training their people to shoot gun holding civilian looking targets including the likes of pregnant ladies, children, and the elderly. Is this legit? If so, very disturbing.
My only question is what can we truly do? When learning about dictatorships in history classes while growing up I was always fascinated with how the people could have possibly let it happen. It's always this feeling of this will never happen to me, or this would never happen here, things won't get that bad etc. But the signs would be there and I guess we as humans tend to enter denial when faced with highly unpleasant things. Can't help but wonder if many of us are falling into the same trap.
I'm seriously thinking about maybe moving to another country before shit hits the fan but I'm not sure which country. How's Canada doing on the whole liberty and freedoms situation in comparison to America? Plus not sure if I want to leave all my family and love ones. It's a tough decision but if things get worse I will ponder it deeper and deeper.
Check out infowars.com. There is a clear agenda to disarm the people.Look at the restrictions Obama is attempting to implement.
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surely not. But if we (Americans) don't start watching our politicians and voting wisely, all our freedom will be gone before we know it. What is up with the gun control B.S.?
I don't really think its bs considering not every citzen really needs, or should have access to, fully automatic assault rifles equipped with armor penetrating bullets. But it's probably too late for that now, and especially after this gun control law because now everyone is crowding gun stores like its a grand opening for wal-mart.
Really not trying to get into a political argument here, but just think about it, your right not every citizen needs a military grade weapon, but they should have access to them. The people that want these weapons with bad intentions are going to get them regardless of what the law is, this gives a disadvantage to the people who want the weapons simply to defend themselves.. Just something to think about.
Fully automatic weapons are already illegal for private citizens in the US without the appropriate tax stamp...
And I find it ironic that the very government trying to disarm US citizens is stocking up on weapons at the same time, recently purchasing thousands of fully automatic weapons, billions of bullets and thousands of armored vehicles via Department of Homeland Security. Which only operates within the US.
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GREAT TOPIC
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no