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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: Dopamin on January 29, 2013, 11:41 am

Title: dealing via SR
Post by: Dopamin on January 29, 2013, 11:41 am
Hey guys,

I thought about being the middle-man between Silk Road and people who do not have the technical knowledge, time and reason to use SR themselves. I would choose the vendor and product for them, do the security stuff and make a little profit.

Any hint or idea is warmly welcome.
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: Jediknight on January 29, 2013, 12:28 pm
I thought of this too.  The profit margins are too slim.  The prices here are too high.  You'd have to buy bulk. 
It's to compete with street prices . 
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: Jediknight on January 29, 2013, 12:32 pm
I thought about printing up all the listings into a catalog and presenting the catalog of products for sale.  I'd put put my marked up prices beside the listings instead of the regular prices.

This could work if people don't mind waiting for orders.  Or you'd buy a stock of all the products to have on hand.  Stock up when you run low on something.   
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: talawtam on January 29, 2013, 12:34 pm
Generally speaking, I'd say prices on SR are to high to make any real profit. I too have thought about doing this myself (i do buy an oz of weed, sell gram bags and smoke the rest for free).

Are you planning on buying the product with your own money and sell it to them when it arrives/have the vendor delivery to their address? Or will you be taking the money first? Think about this for a moment... which ever way you decide to do it... what if it doesn't arrive? Or what if you have the vendor send it directly to them and they say it didn't arrive etc. For me, its just way too much hassle.

I'd say buy in bulk and shift it to make a profit. There's no point in trying to make a little profit off a single order every now and then.

My friends ask me to to buy stuff for them and give me money but i wont do it. I insist on teaching them to use tails, pgp, bitcoins etc etc and do it themselves.

Hope that helps
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: Jediknight on January 29, 2013, 12:35 pm
Yor angle would be variety and election and quality. This would be different than most dealers.
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: ramrugger on January 29, 2013, 10:35 pm
I thought about printing up all the listings into a catalog and presenting the catalog of products for sale.  I'd put put my marked up prices beside the listings instead of the regular prices.

so put all the vendors at risk by having their usernames and products and potentially their vendor pages printed on paper, as physical evidence of them? yeah, I don't think any vendor's going to be down with that, and now that you've put it out there, you've already exposed yourself to them.

This could work if people don't mind waiting for orders.  Or you'd buy a stock of all the products to have on hand.  Stock up when you run low on something.

so deal drugs, basically? buy bulk on SR and deal in semi-bulk to street dealers? that exists already. it's called "drug dealing."
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: Slicksuit on January 30, 2013, 12:02 am
You would make more money buying in bulk and just becoming a street dealer - keep SR a secret, or your customers could end up here and you will not be making any money.

Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: kesser on January 30, 2013, 03:50 am
It would be much better to bulk order then sell from that, but it completely depends on what the prices are around your area and how safe it is to have bulk orders delivered.
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: Blerbadoo on January 30, 2013, 06:26 am
Man this is up there with The Drugstore Cowboys post...

Dear SR, how do I deal drugs?  :o

1. Buy drugs
2. Find people who want drugs
3. Sell them drugs (Extra super good tip I'd normally charge for but I like you, make sure you know they aren't cops)
4. Profit


These kinds of posts are making me think of the SR Vendor Exposure thread.... I completely missed this aspect of SR being flooded with children.
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: The Drugstore Cowboy on January 30, 2013, 08:03 am
Man this is up there with The Drugstore Cowboys post...

Dear SR, how do I deal drugs?  :o

1. Buy drugs
2. Find people who want drugs
3. Sell them drugs (Extra super good tip I'd normally charge for but I like you, make sure you know they aren't cops)
4. Profit


These kinds of posts are making me think of the SR Vendor Exposure thread.... I completely missed this aspect of SR being flooded with children.

Heh. Case closed Blerbadoo, case closed. You'll say anything. Arrogant and condescending. You miss need to sort your shit out.
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: Dopamin on January 30, 2013, 08:49 am
Nothing against some fun, now back on topic.

Yor angle would be variety and election and quality. This would be different than most dealers.


You hit the nail on the head. LSD, MDMA, 2C-B, K, I got all those off of the SR so I have no idea about the quality you get in real life. I once hooked up a friend with a hit of molly and he is still like wiping my ass every time he sees me... seems like MDMA in that quality is not available in my region.

Deducing from my drug-habits I think people would pay the price for top-notch stuff or things that are not commonly available.

Never having physical contact with the drugs is a mayor plus point. What do you think would happen if one of my customers get busted and tells the cops he talked to me and a week later he had a nice package in his mailbox?
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: Jediknight on January 31, 2013, 12:30 am
There a better careers to get Into to you know.
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: human5 on January 31, 2013, 08:58 am
been doing this for about 4 months.... when I sell out my product at my regular rates I will be at least +10k USD from before
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: modziw on February 01, 2013, 02:18 am
been doing this for about 4 months.... when I sell out my product at my regular rates I will be at least +10k USD from before

Out of curiosity, what products do you sell?

Modzi
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: dbz4u on February 01, 2013, 03:19 am
If you live in the USA, sell molly. That's all you need. If you buy bulk from euro vendors, the profit margins are ridiculous. Here in the states a gram of molly is generally 100-150. If you buy a 10g sack from one of the NL or german sellers, you pay around 30-40 a gram. That's like 200-300% profit right there.
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: SouthSquareBiz on February 10, 2013, 03:53 am
Hey guys,

I thought about being the middle-man between Silk Road and people who do not have the technical knowledge, time and reason to use SR themselves. I would choose the vendor and product for them, do the security stuff and make a little profit.

Any hint or idea is warmly welcome.
:oDopamin, you're late to the party! That is the ONLY reason I sought SR out in the first place.

Face to face, IRL distribution, and running a mail order, all made easier with a community forum to learn about security and a rating system to guarantee product quality.

SR, slowly but surely, puts whatever business one is running on steroids, and guess what, SR sells them too. ;D.

I was one of the main complainers/advocates about vendors coming on to retail and having more venders step up to wholesale. I don't think I had much to do with it, but after a year on here, I am starting to find pricing that I can live with, without a doubt.
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: SouthSquareBiz on February 10, 2013, 03:56 am
Yor angle would be variety and election and quality. This would be different than most dealers.

Bingo.

Entire new streams of clientele have been created on drugs that are not commonly used by social circles.

If it were not for SR, a regular dealer would have no idea these alternative streams exist, with less risk, less exposure, and MORE MARGIN due to availability.

Good case and point, as someone else mentioned in this thread, you grab 1 gram of molly from across the pond, and you are dealing with pure profit from day ONE! At a bare MINIMUM, you can triple your money without even trying or having a clue what to do.

Trust me. 8)
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: Cali4niaLove on February 10, 2013, 04:53 am
Dealing IRL is far more dangerous than dealing on SR but if that's a game you want to play, more power to you.

I would say that if you are dealing with close friends and friends of friends, i.e. no strangers; and you're dealing in small amounts, you can probably do it for years and get away with it.

A lot of people are recommending Molly, which again, if it's small amounts and close friends, by all means go for it. But make sure you know who you are dealing with because if it gets in the hands of some dumb 16 year old girl who overdoses, you better believe the police will turn up every rock trying to find the source.

Taking custom orders via strain for cannabis is a major pain in the ass unless you are getting money up front. In my experience, there are three types of cannabis smokers:
1) People who don't know very much about weed and will smoke whatever as long as it gets them high
2) People who have slight preferences (indica/sativa) but other than that, are pretty happy with whatever
3) People who have very specific tastes and seek out bud like winos seek out certain wines

Catering to people's individual needs is only beneficial if your customers are type 3. Types 1 and 2 will smoke whatever you give them as long as it isn't garbage.

The money isn't in eighths if you are buying them as eighths off of SR. I can't even imagine how you would make money doing that, eighths are $40-$60 on SR, what do they go for in your town? Instead, buy an ounce from a reputable vendor ($200-$300), break it up into eighths, sell them for $50 each, and bam you just doubled your money.

Good luck!
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: The Advocate on February 10, 2013, 05:55 am
Bright minds in this thread, to be sure.
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: SorryMario on February 10, 2013, 06:27 am
I thought about being the middle-man between Silk Road and people who do not have the technical knowledge, time and reason to use SR themselves. I would choose the vendor and product for them, do the security stuff and make a little profit.
Good luck finding buyers willing to front you the necessary money and then wait a week (or maybe longer...) before come back with their drugs. How will you explain the long turn-around time? What would your plan be if a package didn't arrive?

Will they know you're ordering it off the internet???  No one IRL should ever know you get drugs delivered through the mail. That's a security risk that will get you ripped-off or busted in no time.

I thought about printing up all the listings into a catalog and presenting the catalog of products for sale.  I'd put put my marked up prices beside the listings instead of the regular prices.

so put all the vendors at risk by having their usernames and products and potentially their vendor pages printed on paper, as physical evidence of them? yeah, I don't think any vendor's going to be down with that, and now that you've put it out there, you've already exposed yourself to them.

The only one he'd be jeopardizing is himself. Anyone (even cops) can access SR and see the pseudonymous vendor names with their products. Printing it out on paper won't be evidence of anything other than the person who printed it.
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: ramrugger on February 10, 2013, 02:51 pm
That's true, of course, Mario. I just meant more along the lines of "wow, more proof of you using SR oh and here are all the vendors you're using too."

But your point remains entirely correct - this idea is ill-conceived from start to finish no matter how you cut it.
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: human5 on February 10, 2013, 06:33 pm
been doing this for about 4 months.... when I sell out my product at my regular rates I will be at least +10k USD from before

Out of curiosity, what products do you sell?

Modzi
Mostly MDMA as the post after yours said. Some LSD, some shrooms, some weed, but MDMA is the big one in the US. Tried selling coke but it's just not working out + the customers are far too sketchy/annoying
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: XXXotica on February 10, 2013, 06:56 pm

 I completely missed this aspect of SR being flooded with children.

+1
Title: Re: dealing via SR
Post by: The Advocate on February 11, 2013, 10:58 am
been doing this for about 4 months.... when I sell out my product at my regular rates I will be at least +10k USD from before

Out of curiosity, what products do you sell?

Modzi
Mostly MDMA as the post after yours said. Some LSD, some shrooms, some weed, but MDMA is the big one in the US. Tried selling coke but it's just not working out + the customers are far too sketchy/annoying

So you buy bulk on the road and sell user amounts on the road.  What's the profit margin?  I sent you a PM.