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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: weirdal on January 17, 2013, 03:54 pm
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The title says it all, I figured I'd see if I can actually be some help to everyone stuck in this forum since I've been here for > 1 year and have spent significant amounts of time on the forum and main site.
Ask away folks. :D
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When you leave feedback for a vendor do they know who it is from? (great idea thanks)
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As I haven't vended before I can't tell you with absolute certianty whether they can go back indefinitely and see, but if it was recent feedback they seem to know. I've seen a number of esteemed vendors comment that specific buyers have left feedback that was incorrect and explained the situation in their own terms.
there are two possibilities I can see for why this could be the case.
1 is that they can in fact see the feedback left by individuals for a short period. similar to how if you go into your account settings you can see recent feedback you've left. what you purchased, and from whom.
2 is that if they haven't gotten EXTREME amounts of orders they could deduce the person that left the feedback based on when they ordered, communications they've had, when the DCN says it arrived. how far away the customer's location is, transaction ID, or simply noticing when 1 of their orders disappeared from their 'orders' tab and when the money appeared in their account.
Did this answer your question?
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yes thank you weirdal :)
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Are you aware about pgp on mac with gpgtool??
If you do, could you check the first thread, thank you !!!
it drives me crazy.
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I am familiar with windows pgp, but i haven't worked on a mac. TBH, i think we might be able to puzzle it out between us. So you can unencrypt a message, but not encrypt one?
is gpgtool the name of the program or software you are using?
btw, I posted in the other thread, but that one is likely to get clogged up or lost, just go ahead and reply here.
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thanks,
idd gpgtools is name of the program.
i read there a good tuto : http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=96799.msg686510#msg686510
so i know how it works, but it does not. I dont understand why it only works less than half time (and maybe the first when the computer is on),
I got, like i said, this error message : " service "openpgp : "encrypt" can't be use because the application did not respond to service demand. Try to open again "(null)" or contact the editor to get an update" (encrypt or decrypt or anything else i tried..)
I already uninstall .. don't know what to do ...
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do you know if we are given an email adresse on sr or tor automatically?
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I am trying to set up claws email within tails and I am assuming I dont want to use my normal email accounts from outside tor?
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Is there a possibility that you've done any of the steps differently and didn't notice doing so in the cases where it does/doesn't work. I don't think i wrote that very clearly.. hmmm. Have you tried doing it step by step EXACTLY the same to the same person with the same public key multiple times where it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't? I still don't think that question was very clear. If necessary I can attempt to write it more simply. haha. I guess my point with this is to try it a few times exactly the same with the same public key and see if it works sometimes and not others. alternatively I can send you my public key so you can attempt to send encrypt a message to me.
The other thing i figured I'd mention is in windows you have to save the text file as "xyz.PGP" before you can import it as a key. it appears that in MAC they want you to save it as "xyz.ASC"? you might want to give that a shot both ways.
Hey, I also found on their website that these are the requirements to encrypt:
> a secret key matching the mail address you want to write from (see Mail.app >Settings > Accounts)
> the public key of the recipient
> recipients and senders mail address have to perfectly match the mail addresses in the keys being used
If one of those requirements is broken you won't be able to encrypt any mail.
If that doesn't help I'd recommend taking a second look over the info on here(additional links at bottom of page):
[CLEARNET WARNING]: http://support.gpgtools.org/kb/how-to/your-first-encrypted-mail and http://support.gpgtools.org/kb/how-to/first-steps-where-do-i-start-where-do-i-begin
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@NW Nugs: DEFINITELY do NOT use an email from the clearnet. Even hushmail and whatnot will work with law enforcement. You aren't issued one on the SR or the forums.
Set one up on Tormail.
I'll post the URL for tormail in a minute. :)
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another question:
when u register for the forum are u theoretically supposed to use your sr account name and passcode info?
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Ty, and ty for tormail link tho i can probably find it if you dont.
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why when i post in this sub forum does it bounce me out of the subforum so i have to re enter it to see replies?
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this appears to be the link to tormail:
http://jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion/
:-)
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Could you post your PGP key weirdal plz ?
Thx,
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When you post in a thread(topic) it goes back and loads the subforum(newbie discussion in this case) so you can see all the other threads there. I don't know why, but that's how it's been since the forum first came online. If you hit back(alt+<) it'll take you back to the thread you were in. If it isn't updated you might have to hit F5 to reload the page, or if it still doesn't show the changes(your post), you'll have to hit ctrl+F5 to reload the page where it will show any changes. If you computer is as dumb as mine you have to hit ctrl+F5 everytime you reload a page that you've been to before in that session.
Sorry. I'm super exhausted and I'm gonna go to sleep. Post back here if you can't find the address for tormail and when i get back online i'll find it for you. It's on the main forum in many locations.
Oh, the search function of our forums is AMAZING, but you have to make sure to be on the main 'silk road forum' page where you can see everything from silk road discussion to rumor mill to newbie discussion to search the entire forum. If you just search from the 'newbie discussion' section, it will only show results from the newbie section. I didn't figure this out for quite a while and it made me think i was going insane because i was sure i had seen a thread and then it seemingly wouldn't exist anymore. haha
Till later. God Bless.
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You CAN use your same username for the SR marketplace and the forum, but DEFINITELY use a different password. that way if 1 account becomes compromised(or the server for either one) the other account is not.
Also, make sure not to use the same username for either SR or forum that you do on the clearweb. :)
My public key is:
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)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=i0zl
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
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Who might be some good vendors or products for newbies to buy from to get their user raiting up and to achieve the minimum 5 purchases needed to start interacting and doing business with other vendors?
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TY for the responses and good advice :-) Weirdal
and sweet dreams
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Weirdal went to bed and most users of the forum who know everything cant post here as once u get out of newbie prison, you cant post here anymore. Answers to questions above that were not answered would be nice to see but I'm not expecting much today.
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Does the captcha go away after you are a newbie? It is driving me nuts, I keep getting them wrong!
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Does the captcha go away after you are a newbie? It is driving me nuts, I keep getting them wrong!
I don't think so. But hey, same thing often happens to me and never fails to make me feel like an idiot. Although I've definitely seen sites with far more tricky captures.
Also; maybe some of the vendors with low post count who also got stuck here can answer this question: do vendors have the option to make their product prices 'hedged'? Like.. set a dollar value for their product and let SR auto adjust the BTC price to the current dollar value or something like that? Sometimes I see minor fluctuations in prices, but with other vendors prices stay exactly the same.
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No, I am 99% sure the captcha does not go away after you have reached 50 posts! I think its a great tool to help weed out the spammers, among im sure other things. They really are not hard to read they just contain letters, it would probably be better if they used letters and numbers, not sure though. It is an extra step but very benificial!
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Its been 17 days domestic(14 since transit) should i contact SR Admin for resolution for refund?
Vendor has seldom communication and others are having the same issue. This is a vendor with
97 and ~150+ trans.
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??? ::) :P
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Its been 17 days domestic(14 since transit) should i contact SR Admin for resolution for refund?
Vendor has seldom communication and others are having the same issue. This is a vendor with
97 and ~150+ trans.
I don't know where you live of course but I'm pretty sure that no country has domestic delivey times like that. Which means it's probably not going to arrive anymore and you can take your order into the resolution centre, especially if the vendor is not replying to you. If there's others having the same issues as you say I think that might even increase your chances of getting a full refund.
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windmillz: It depends on what products you're interested in. lemme know what products you are looking for and I can better advise you. Other than that, you can purchase ebooks, usually for < $3.00 to get your transaction count up, just keep in mind that it also shows how much you've spent so the higher money/transaction ratio you have the better it will look on your stats. I made the mistake of purchasing 10 ebooks when i first started so it took a LONG time to get that ratio back down. haha
NW Nugs: No problemo! glad i could help.
lass: I've never had to enter a captcha before when posting outside this forum. my gut tells me it will go away, but I can't guarantee that till i try it and haven't logged in to my main. I'll let you know. :)
CAPTCHA PROBLEM: If you keep getting the captcha's wrong, make sure you're only trying to enter LETTERS. I kept trying to enter a 9 when I saw a weird or distorted g and then i read the instructions: "Type the LETTERS shown in the picture" Doh! that confused me for a bit too!
vxn: Yes, the vendors have the ability to hedge their purchases or not. Most vendors hedge them so they don't lose money because if someone doesn't finalize for 17 days that's a long time in a very volatile currency. However, with the way btc have been going in the past day or two they would have stood to make a lot of money had they not hedged it. :)
Windmillz(x2): Ha, you just mentioned what i did about the captchas. haha didn't read that.
SadUare: It depends. If you're in germany, that wouldn't surprise me that it's taking so long. I could see it taking that long in the UK too since the recent postal strike. Honestly, I'd check the vendor page and see how long the estimated delivery time is. Then contact the vendor IN A VERY POLITE FASHION and see what their thoughts are on the matter. They probably have delivery confirmation on it if it's for very much money and they'll be able to confirm or not that it's arrived.
One way or another PUT THAT ORDER IN THE RESOLUTION CENTER. The resolution center isn't just for getting a refund. It's there to protect you in a number of ways. If you don't put it in the resolution center it will AF(Auto Finalize) and that will automatically give your funds to the vendor, but it will also but a black scar on your purchasing history. You have two options in the resolution center: Request a Refund, and Extend Due date. Depending on you circumstances and what the vendor says, I'd definitely put it in the resolution center now(in case you can't log on in a day or two) and extend the due date. Then clearly and concisely explain the circumstances AGAIN in the resolution center communications.
TBH, that's a LONG time to wait domestic and I'd ask for a reship. a FULL reship if they don't have dcn to prove whether it showed up. You CAN take a refund, but that will also put a black scar on your purchasing history and that'll be hard to overcome with a newer account and fewer purchases. Unfortunately a number of vendors take the opportunity to scam new accounts because they can get away with it and just say that the account was some random scammer who's been here before and opened a new account for the purpose of scamming. Sorry for the run on sentance.
I'll be on for a bit, any other questions?
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:P
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Do u know any newbie friendly vendor ?... im about to make my first transaction but alot of vendors don't sell or offer resends/support to ppl with no transactions. Im a little afraid to FE because alot of ppl and guides says to use the escrow system like it was ment to be. I surely understand why vendors are trying to protect their business from scammers.
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It really depends on what products you are interested in. If you let me know, I can better inform you. :)
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If someone sends you btc in your SR account, will it show their btc address to send the funds back?
I just want to make sure so I pay them back.
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Do u know any newbie friendly vendor ?... im about to make my first transaction but alot of vendors don't sell or offer resends/support to ppl with no transactions. Im a little afraid to FE because alot of ppl and guides says to use the escrow system like it was ment to be. I surely understand why vendors are trying to protect their business from scammers.
My 1st 2 transactions, both said to FE, I messaged them 1st, it was a small order, they both told me not to bother, and wait till it came, so sometimes, its just a matter of simply talking to the vendor 1st.
I have FE'd ONCE...and guess what? I was scammed. Unless you are trying to get something with only 1 vendor, you should be able to find someone willing to take a chance.
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If someone sends you btc in your SR account, will it show their btc address to send the funds back?
I just want to make sure so I pay them back.
If there is a way I have not seen it, I have sent out 4/5 payments in the spare coin thread, I havent asked for any, but at the same time, no one paid me back either. oh well. I hope its there if I need it one day
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Maybe its wise to private message each other BTC address on the SR forum so we can pay them back????
But then I have heard them say, just do the same unto someone else that needs it.
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I paid some forward before the thread got started and we PMd to set it up. Didn't care about getting any back though because I couldn't buy anything but ebooks.
Kept to PM because my usernames here and SR are different.
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Barbie: It depends on whether they send it directly from their SR account to yours, or from a separate bitcoin address to the address in your account. If it was someone on the forums chances are they sent it directly from their account to yours via entering your account name. You can view the history of this by clicking the 'account' link on the top of the page and then clicking the 'account history' on the right side of the page. you can see what transfers were made into your account and from whom. If it's from a btc address you can send it back by copying the address into the space for that in the 'account' page or if it's a direct transfer, just select their username and paste that into the corresponding box in the account page. keep in mind when you are selecting a quantity or amount to send it is in btc so 1.0 btc would currently send ~$15.60.
skulldrag is correct, DO NOT finalize early. I have only once and I DID receive my product, however within the weeks that followed the vendor that I FE'd for scammed more than $100,000 from members here. That scared the living crap out of me and I've refused to FE ever since. It's also worth mentioning that even SR staff says they will not help you get your money back if you finalize before receiving your product and verifying it.
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The title says it all, I figured I'd see if I can actually be some help to everyone stuck in this forum since I've been here for > 1 year and have spent significant amounts of time on the forum and main site.
Ask away folks. :D
Hi, newbie here, signed up several days ago. I have some questions. First, I must disclose that I'm not a techie by any stretch, so....If you can answer any of my questions, please give me the _______for dummies version.
1. when I finally get logged onto SR, (takes forever) I don't see a direct link to the forums but eventually get there by clicking other links. Is there an easier way to access forums and discussion?
2. I have no knowledge of how encryption works and not even sure if I should be encrypting this message. Should I be encrypting this message?
3. What are the pros and cons of using a library computer? My local library has a tech center with 80 computers than run on 2002 windows XP. I have no problem downloading and using the TOR browser and accessing SR. Since I have to use my library card # and a PIN to use the computer, would this be considered unsafe? note: there are surveillance cameras too.
Thanks,
maxieB
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1) One of the easiest ways is copy and paste this url(http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion) in the address bar, then click and hold on the tab that opens. Drag it to the spot right next to the 'Are you using tor?' button on your toolbar right under the address bar and let go. When you want to come to the forums, click that link.
2) Don't bother encrypting messages that don't contain sensitive data. A good way to determine sensitive data other than your address and whatnot is to ask yourself before you post if any of the information could be used to profile you or narrow you down out of the general populace. There are a number of great threads around on using pgp encryption. I would advise you to navigate to the security subforum located here(http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?board=3.0) and then use the search bar on the top right corner of the page to locate some guides. It will be good practice for you.
As a rule you should search the forums before asking questions, but if you're really stumped it's better to ask than to risk security breaches. In this case I offered to answer questions so I'm not in the least concerned. The only reason I mention it is the incredible amount of questions asked over and over since nobody takes the time to try and search first.
If you still have issues post again and I'll help you out.
3) I'd say there honestly aren't many pros. maybe if you don't have your own computer? The cons are numerous. You aren't supposed to load any software on the library computers, I don't know how you would run your encryption software, People would see what you're doing, You're on camera, many library's have the ability to monitor what you're doing on the computers, the library account you would be using would be linked to you, etc.
I'd seriously recommend looking into getting a secure thumbdrive and loading on that on your computer or you friend's if you don't have one. once again you can find tutorials in the security subforum using the search function. Make sure to be in the security forum when you search as the search only looks in the area of the forum you are already in.
Once again if you have issues with this post again and I'll give you more direct .
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Anyone know how to scub metadata from pictures?
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if you're using windows there's a program called the 'exif tag remover'.
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Hey guys, so I just hit 50 posts, but don't worry, I'll make another account to keep answering questions. :)
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why do people give negative karma? ive only been here 10 mins and already got some!
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post.
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I love your music. I am one of your most average fans.
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Is it true that vendors can remove/cancel listings in order to erase negative feedback?
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SilkRider: Some people are just in a bad mood, some people don't agree with what your saying, some people think that you should think more about what you're posting. Once you reach 100 posts you can give karma. The buttons actually say thank(for positive) and discourage(for negative).
fonskizzle: Getting your post count up. :)
Raichu67: Thanks man, my music was a talent given by God so he deserves the credit. ;)
BoyToyJoy: They can change the quantity of an item to 0 so it's not visible with their other listings. I believe that the feedback would not be visible on their vendor page either if they did that. Not 100% sure. I can find out for you if you'd really like to know.
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Maybe its wise to private message each other BTC address on the SR forum so we can pay them back????
But then I have heard them say, just do the same unto someone else that needs it.
I never expected to be paid back, just just a matter of respect, if you post that you will, then you dont, we WILL leave feedback, so never expect it again
at the same time im fine with someone asking for .2 or w/e and being like yo im short, if I have it I give away, I figure its better then giving it to the bum in front of work...regardless, if you use the bitcoin thread, post your intentions and follow up on them, dont want to get on bad lists, as they do exist apprently, since vemdors have their own forums....
anyway, I give back, just because well, a small amount does nothing for me, and if I can help someone else have a good weekend for such a small amount, then fuck it, good times!! I just hope it comes around if I ever need it, or anyone for that matter, its what makes this place great!
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new question...
What generally happens when a domestic package is seized?
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Hi,
I am a newbie, my first post, and I do have some questions for you. Thank-you ahead of time for your offer to answer questions. I have spent a small portion each day learning about TOR,SR, Bitcoins etc. And now I have learned I need to use a gpg program. Does everyone who does business on SR use a gpg program even though TOR tumbles addresses and Bitcoin exchanges protect anonymity? I think SR is a great website to cater to those who resent government rules. In the past they have stopped packages crossing the border and I never received the meds I ordered, just a nasty letter. and it scared the crap out of me, that was about 3 years ago and I am only going to order in the USA so nothing has to go through customs. So I am very glad to have found this site, and am hoping it is very secure.
So I understand this much so far about gpg's= plain text-encrypted text-cypher text-decrypted text-plain text. I learned that by reading the Gp4win information. I downloaded their Gp4win2.1.1Beta software. And I am supposed to test it at their site which I still need to do, I don't really understand how to. I don't see how SR uses it when you just put what you want into your shopping cart, then finalize payment with Bitcoins? Can you give me a simple explanation? And maybe explain where gpg's come into play? It maybe a day before I reply back as reading everything and trying to understand is a bit overwhelming. thank-you again
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GPG is a way of covering your tracks. Do you have to use it? Well ... do you want to put your privacy in the hands of someone else, or do you want to take responsibility for your own privacy? If everyone does their bit and takes responsibility for their own privacy, then we are half way there to keeping ourselves and others half way secure :)
Download GPG tools. Im not an expert on the topic, i learned all i need to know through the posts on the main part of the forums.
this ... http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=131.0
this... http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html
this ... https://www.gpgtools.org/
this ... http://support.gpgtools.org/discussions/everything/4164-help-sending-my-first-encrypted-email
and a very important one is this ... http://support.gpgtools.org/discussions/everything/3267-creating-pastable-encrypted-text
Encryption is invaluable, learn it and use it!
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PGP is mostly useful here for info that can be directly linked to your IRL person: Your name and address for deliveries.
Everything else is relying on the good faith of your sellers and you as the buyer outside of technical concerns.
good luck!
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Hi weirdal.
What's with the email address required to make a key pair with gpg4win? I used a public disposable one for the first test pair I made but yeah, can you enlighten us on what that's all about if you please?
Thanks a lot.
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pathseeker -- you just make a tormail email address.
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Whats the record for the longest delivery for something bought on the road?
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Skulldrag: That's super cool of you. +1.
MumboJumbo: I don't think domestic packages are seized very often. I suppose if it was something stinky like bud and not vacuum sealed or packaged very well it'd could stand a decent chance of being detected. I think that most of our vendors are very competent though and that it shouldn't be a very high concern when considering an order.
If a package was seized I can think of 2 possibilities. Depending on what in particular was in the package and what quantity you'd likely either get a love letter(from the govt), a controlled delivery, or MAYBE if it's just a gram of bud or something the package will just just be disposed of.
Gardener: Np. I'm glad you've spent your time researching. that shows you want to go about this in a manner that's shrewd and cautious. I applaud that. I also appreciate doing your own research before asking for help. :) Read through MumboJumbo's links. :) Most people use pgp encryption. It is definitely a necessity in my opinion. The difference is that even using btc and tumbles them, unless the person in question is a big player vending a lot of product, and even then, it's probably not worth the governments effort to try and discover who that person(s) identities. The cost in resources would be enourmous.
However, SR is still high on the govt's radar and if the server were ever to be compromised if you didn't uncrypt your address when you sent it to the vendor and they hadn't marked the order in transit, they'd be able to see your address. make sense?
Also, the longer you're here you'll see that not everybody share's your sentiments about the SR. In some peoples eye's it's just a place to score droogs. other's have the same ideals as DPR, some have radically different ideas still. Just like great nations and communities in the world, we're made up of all different kinds of people. :)
I've actually had great success ordering from overseas to the US. Never had a single order go missing. Did have to wait quite a while for one though.
gpg4win is good software. It's the software that is used to encrypt text communication. The way it works is that when you place an order with your vendor, you pay them in btc, but you also have to put your address in so they can send you your order. You don't just want to send it plain text because if the server ever was compromised it could be read. You enter the software, type your address in the clipboard, click encrypt, select your vendor's public key, and click ok. Then you copy the encrypted message into the address field. Only the person with the private key attached to that code and who knows the password for said code is able decrypt the message.
I'd also search the security subforum for some more in depth tutorials for it and read the buyer's guide located here: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/buyers_guide
If you still struggle with it ask again and I'll clarify.
PathSeeker: The email address serves a couple purposes. It's a secondary identifier and when using tormail or another secure email service it's also a business card as it were. Many people put in fake email addresses. sometimes vendor's put their tormail account in there so in case the SR goes down their customers can contact them.
The longest I've heard of from a reputable member that's been here a while was 5X days. I don't remember exactly. I've heard unsubstantiated claims of 60+ days from Germany or the netherlands.
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Thanks for the info, I can digest the process a little easier now. One short question- When you encrypt your address and select the vendors public key, is that when they get the private key to decrypt your message? What an awesome way to keep things private ! Have a great day. ;)
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When you open the software click on 'keys'->'new key' and enter the desired information. Don't use your real name, use a handle or your username on SR, and set up a tormail email address and enter that. When you're done you'll have your own key set. That is, a private and a public key. Don't give ANYONE your private key or post it anywhere. You'll need a password for it, but it's what you'll use to decrypt any messages to you. The key you give out(and the key you get from a vendor) is a public key. it's the half that allows someone to encrypt a message to you.
Does that clarify enough?
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Is it usually to go to other country and order domestic and then somehow get the stuff back where you live for real, or do people just find abandoned houses or what? I mean, is it even possible
to order stuff to say like homeaway address in Netherlands, Germany, Belgia etc...?
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Thats the purpose here. It's shipped to you so you don't have to go somewhere else. DON'T try to smuggle it yourself. That has a much higher possibility of getting caught.
If you don't want to order overseas there are many vendors that have ordered international(importing it) and resell it domestically.
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hi OP. my question is what pin does it want when i'm trying to place an order? i can't place an order without this pin apparently.
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Thats the purpose here. It's shipped to you so you don't have to go somewhere else. DON'T try to smuggle it yourself. That has a much higher possibility of getting caught.
If you don't want to order overseas there are many vendors that have ordered international(importing it) and resell it domestically.
I don't know about that, there are may at most five domestic vendors where I live and they are are asking like 5 euros for 1mg xanax, or 25 euros for gram of bud, also the mdma is about 120, so not much to celebrate in here.. I was wondering about ordering some empty house, but if the house is too ransacked would that be a red flag, also if I would have to order it in some other person name of course.. I love the domestic, but Scandinavia just sucks ass for that.
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I'm sorry to hear that. :/ I still would not under any circumstances attempt to smuggle anything yourself. Read through the buyers guide. I posted the url earlier in this thread.
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in your experience on the road, have you ever FE'd?
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prior to the introduction of hedging, especially when BTC was montetized at low levels there were fairly substantial (percentage wise) swings in BTC value. You might place your order Sunday and by Wednesday BTC value might have swung up or down 30%-50%. This made it difficult for vendors to plan and price ther products effectively. With hedging, for a fixed fee, the transaction maintains a constant price in USD from order to finalize. This takes a significant cost of doing business consideration off of the vendors which helps them price their wares with more stability. I haven't payed much attention to BTC valuations bit I seem to remember a crash a year or more ago where BTC went down to $2 or so (and sometime prior to that it was up to $30). Now it is back to $15.
So lately, there is not too much reason to finalize early since BTC valuation is fairly stable and hedging is available. In the past I have not worried too much about doing FE for trusted vendors. In recent times most of the trusted vendors don't even request FE unless you a newbie on SR. The escrow system is really what makes SR work and provides needed protection for the buyers. Without escrow who would try out new vendors?
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the pin you need when you make a purchase is the pin you created when you signed up for SR. If you dont remember it you might have to make another account. Or msg support.
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will fe usually end in a scam?
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Hey, I'd like to ask you a question:
Why cant I log in to the silk road?
My post in another thread:
Hey Guys,
Im new to Tor, to Silk Road and to Silk Road forums.
Anyway, I really liked the idea, so I purchased 9 BTC via localbitcoins, created account on http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion and sent my 9BTC there.
After I hour I could see it online.
Today I wanted to log in and purchase something, but even though im 100pct sure about the username and password I cant log in.
Have I been scammed? What shall I do?
Thanks for help!
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weirdal:
You already gave tips about not using the same nick here as on other forums, but you use your REAL NAME????
PS: Big fan
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TryptaManiac: Yep, back in the days of Tony76. Do a search for him and you'll see why I'll NEVER FE again.
1byday43 & mumbojumbo47895: Thanks...
kukpikk: I don't know, I've heard many people saying stuff has come without issue and they haven't been scammed when they've FE. However, if you don't FE you CAN'T be scammed. I like my chances a whole lot better that way. If something goes wrong and I receive a partial refund, I still only lost SOME of the money, if I get scammed, I lose all of it.
my_tor_username: That's pretty weird.. I'd make a new account and message SR Support. Let them know what happened. Sometime's I can't log on either. The site has issues from time to time but you just end up working around them.
kukpikk: There are a number of reasons. Obviously I wouldn't be dumb enough to put use my real name, so I obviously can't be Weird Al. However, since I knew you would know I can't use my real name, I still could have used it without worry of discovery. :) Alternatively My name is currently WeirdAl1. This could mean that I am not actually Al, but rather an avid fan that wanted to be as close to weird al as possible so instead of affixing a suffix of 2 at the end of the name, I put 1 implying that I actually am Weird Al.
It is INCONCEIVABLE that I could be Vicini, a Sicilian participating in a battle of wits. If that were the case, while my current display of intellect is quite dizzying, just wait till I get going!!! ;)
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PathSeeker: The email address serves a couple purposes. It's a secondary identifier and when using tormail or another secure email service it's also a business card as it were. Many people put in fake email addresses. sometimes vendor's put their tormail account in there so in case the SR goes down their customers can contact them.
Thanks a lot. I tend to do better with more info (too much LSD as a kid?).
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Can you buy sacred animals on SR?
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1. What is the ratio of threads about successes with FE compared to failures with FE?
2. What is the total number of threads pertaining to the subject "should i FE?"
3. Should I FE? ;)
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On my first purchase of any significant quantity i was asked to FE. I did it as i had been following the vendor for a while and they had flawless stats. I could see why he wanted me to FE - for all he knew i could be a fellow vendor trying to sabotage his ratings. I was anxious about FEing, still did it anyway as the stats spoke for themselves. My fears were put to rest when i opened the mailbox the next day ;)
My advice on FEing is RESEARCH! Research the vendor and make a judgement yourself.
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Question ...
Real or fake name when ordering???
Thoughts ... ?
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How do you do this?
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Eh do we need 50 posts? Waste of bandwidth. Just asking .
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:(Dear Weird Al, I just posted PLEASE READ SOMEONE PLEASE HELP. Could you please take a look at what I posted and give me your input? I really appreciate the info u have shared :) I am a little freaked out as you will see in what I posted. Just want to stay safe and secure.
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1) One of the easiest ways is copy and paste this url(http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion) in the address bar, then click and hold on the tab that opens. Drag it to the spot right next to the 'Are you using tor?' button on your toolbar right under the address bar and let go. When you want to come to the forums, click that link.
2) Don't bother encrypting messages that don't contain sensitive data. A good way to determine sensitive data other than your address and whatnot is to ask yourself before you post if any of the information could be used to profile you or narrow you down out of the general populace. There are a number of great threads around on using pgp encryption. I would advise you to navigate to the security subforum located here(http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?board=3.0) and then use the search bar on the top right corner of the page to locate some guides. It will be good practice for you.
As a rule you should search the forums before asking questions, but if you're really stumped it's better to ask than to risk security breaches. In this case I offered to answer questions so I'm not in the least concerned. The only reason I mention it is the incredible amount of questions asked over and over since nobody takes the time to try and search first.
If you still have issues post again and I'll help you out.
3) I'd say there honestly aren't many pros. maybe if you don't have your own computer? The cons are numerous. You aren't supposed to load any software on the library computers, I don't know how you would run your encryption software, People would see what you're doing, You're on camera, many library's have the ability to monitor what you're doing on the computers, the library account you would be using would be linked to you, etc.
I'd seriously recommend looking into getting a secure thumbdrive and loading on that on your computer or you friend's if you don't have one. once again you can find tutorials in the security subforum using the search function. Make sure to be in the security forum when you search as the search only looks in the area of the forum you are already in.
Once again if you have issues with this post again and I'll give you more direct .
Ok, Thanks. BTW....is a thumbdrive the same as a flashdrive? like what you plug into the USB port
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:(Dear Weird Al, I just posted PLEASE READ SOMEONE PLEASE HELP. Could you please take a look at what I posted and give me your input? I really appreciate the info u have shared :) I am a little freaked out as you will see in what I posted. Just want to stay safe and secure.
Link it?
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Noci: I haven't seen any sacred animals.
MaoZedong: I'm not the best source for statistics. I haven't categorized every FE thread. Short answer: I don't know. Use the search function. I will always recommend against FE.
MumboJumbo: Thanks for your input. :)
There are obviously 2 theories or schools of thought about your real-vs-fake name when ordering. The SR recommends you use a fake name. See the buyers guide for further guidelines. Most vendors advise/require you use your real name since that's what your postman would be used to seeing among other reasons. I personally recommend using your real name because I don't believe it would add much plausible deniability if a package of narcotics showed up in someone else's name.
Noci(x2): How do i do what? put up with rediculous time wasting questions like this one that are mixed in with genuine questions? I really don't know. God must've given me extra patience for these. ;)
JediKnight: You don't NEED 50 posts. They are required however, to post in the other subforums. :) looks like you've aready cleared 50...
gardener: I'm sorry, I don't see the thread you referenced. Could you cross post it here?
MaxieB: Glad I could be of assistance! :D Yep the term flashdrive is interchangeable(synonymous with) thumbdrive. Both are terms for flash storage in a small device that communicates via USB protocol.
p.s. Sorry I haven't had time to reply to individual posts or questions 1 at a time. I've been rather busy IRL. I'll try to make sure to log on and answer questions at least once a day. :)
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what u reckon of vendors selling bitc via sr or private=? magicpearl x
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There has been problems with the pins lately for newcomers. How long does it tkae themto reset them actually
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bumping this cause it has valuable info
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anyone have experience using the address of an empty house/apartment for shipping?
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According to Shulgin, a dose of MDMA is supposed to be 120mg. Who knows what MMM's "sample" dose is supposed to be. You would think a sample dose would be a proper correct dose (i.e. 120mg) otherwise how the hell are you supposed to really sample it?
The MDMA in the pic looks quite chunky. I imagine if you crush it it will fluff out and look bigger. So im going to say that it is likely that there could be two proper 120mg doses there. But then i'm not familiar with US money so its hard to say.
One way to find out if its any good - split it in half and eat one half. If you get that full on MDMA euphoria then its legit. If you dont, well it could still be legit but the vendor hasnt given you a correct dose and is therefore prob not worth dealing with in the future anyway. So my advice is eat it, its win win.
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Wisj I had been with this thread since the beginning kinda hard to go back and cover all these pages of questions but from here on I will answer aqll questions put forward in this thread accurately.
And to the first question Yes the vendors can see who leaves what feedback up to at least 3 months or longer.
X)
nomad
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Cross-posting from here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108659.msg753655#msg753655
How crucial is it to boot from USB? I bought a brand new netbook and USB drive solely for SR-ing after lurking and researching for several months; however, I apparently got the lowest possible model and it doesn't even have a CD/DVD drive, which (if I am understanding correctly, looking at this thread for example - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=101603.0) will prevent me from getting TAILS running on my USB.
Are there any workarounds for this, or can I have your input into the necessity of booting from USB if I am otherwise doing the following:
- Access SR only on via Tor Bundle on public wifi
- Use Netbook ONLY for SR and other TOR-related stuff (i.e. no mixing of ANY personal or clearnet info - no Amazon, gmail, etc)
- Communicate with vendors ONLY using PGP
- PGP keys saved to TrueCrypt volume on (non-booting) USB drive
Where does the virtual machine factor into all of this - also needed? I have VirtualBox from Oracle installed but have not fully dived in.
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Does anyone know how much more of a risk it is to order things from over seas? I really want to get The White Skulls but they're only in Germany and I've read that over seas shipment adds a very very high risk of it getting found and even higher chance of them busting straight into your house.
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Why do newbies like myself now need to post 50 times before they are allowed to post on main forum topics? I had 10 posts on the main forum and then was told I could not post anymore till i got to 50 posts!!
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How many people will be here till 2015 ?
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MaxieB: Glad I could be of assistance! :D Yep the term flashdrive is interchangeable(synonymous with) thumbdrive. Both are terms for flash storage in a small device that communicates via USB protocol.
Thanks again Al. Sorry to bother you again. Just in case there are other not so tech savvy members out there, like me, I found a great website that explains tech terminology/nomenclature in an easy to understand and sometimes humorous way. It's called techterms.com It's an A to Z reference guide to all things tech and computer related with categories for software, hardware, internet and technical.
~maxieB
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MagicPearl: I think if you were gonna buy btc from SR I'd probably use RxKing if he's still doing that. I wouldn't purchase btc from a private party NOT on the road.
suavee: 1 week.
mumbojumbo47895: Vacant houses or apartments have been discussed at length in the forums and it's been the general consensus that this would be a very bad idea.
shmitty102: Did you get the sample from MMM or MiMM(Marijuana is My Muse)? I can't guess how much that is because different batches of MDMA have different densities in crystals so they can look considerably different. If you were GIVEN two sample hits they're probably not over. likely underweight. I'd probably start with 1/2(eyeballed) and then take the second half after 45-90 minutes.
NorthSouthEastWest: I'd say thumbdrive booting is pretty important for most users. Basic users only buying small personal amounts of drugs have the lowest risk and so could more easily justify using a basic setup. a usb would be a great option. However if you don't have a cd/dvd drive(no netbook has these) you'll have an issue. If you can use a friend's computer to burn the image to the disk for the setup you will still be able to do it. alternatively there are a couple programs that will allow you to 'burn' an image to a usb stick so you'd be able to install it that way. google them.
The steps you posted were alright. I'd definitely consider encrypting the entire HDD if it was me. Also, if you're not sending sensitive information, it's probably best not to encrypt it. Tor is slow anyways and loading messages and replying to them already takes forever for any vendor that gets many messages daily. Add to that decrypting non sensitive questions and it becomes an overwhelming task and unnecessary aswell. ;)
Kupla420: I've NEVER had an issue ordering overseas. Germany may take a while(Their post has been terribly slow for most of last year) but it's not a 'high risk country' for customs and I've had 6+ decent sized orders from there and a few from the NL without any issues. Also, XTC-Express is a good option, but if you're gonna order more than $1,000 I'd go with SuperTrips and get his 'White Speakers'. DON'T take more than 1/2 to start with! Seriously.
futura: I'm sorry man. A lot of people are in your position. Here's the thing though: This new policy of having to post 50 times DOES make it A LOT easier on the mods keeping spam out of the rest of the forum. The majority of the users are over 50 posts so it doesn't effect them. Also, I can ALMOST guarantee any questions you have have already been answered in the rest of the forum and you can still read and search there. Maybe take this opportunity to teach some other members things you have learned?
DrugsAndCash: I have no idea. If i find out I'll let you know. ;)
maxieB: Thanks much for the input. :) You might wanna post [clearnet warning] or something like that immediatey before the link just to give them a heads up. Some people are to dumb(or high) to notice before copying and pasting and you're not obligated to look out for them but it's certainy a nice gesture. :D
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The title says it all, I figured I'd see if I can actually be some help to everyone stuck in this forum since I've been here for > 1 year and have spent significant amounts of time on the forum and main site.
zombai spy lab has been giving out good advice and answering questions. He can answer your questions if I don't respond fast enough. :)
Ask away folks. :D
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can you direct me to a reputable bud source?
looking for domestic top shelf only.
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MagicPearl: I think if you were gonna buy btc from SR I'd probably use RxKing if he's still doing that. I wouldn't purchase btc from a private party NOT on the road.
suavee: 1 week.
mumbojumbo47895: Vacant houses or apartments have been discussed at length in the forums and it's been the general consensus that this would be a very bad idea.
shmitty102: Did you get the sample from MMM or MiMM(Marijuana is My Muse)? I can't guess how much that is because different batches of MDMA have different densities in crystals so they can look considerably different. If you were GIVEN two sample hits they're probably not over. likely underweight. I'd probably start with 1/2(eyeballed) and then take the second half after 45-90 minutes.
NorthSouthEastWest: I'd say thumbdrive booting is pretty important for most users. Basic users only buying small personal amounts of drugs have the lowest risk and so could more easily justify using a basic setup. a usb would be a great option. However if you don't have a cd/dvd drive(no netbook has these) you'll have an issue. If you can use a friend's computer to burn the image to the disk for the setup you will still be able to do it. alternatively there are a couple programs that will allow you to 'burn' an image to a usb stick so you'd be able to install it that way. google them.
The steps you posted were alright. I'd definitely consider encrypting the entire HDD if it was me. Also, if you're not sending sensitive information, it's probably best not to encrypt it. Tor is slow anyways and loading messages and replying to them already takes forever for any vendor that gets many messages daily. Add to that decrypting non sensitive questions and it becomes an overwhelming task and unnecessary aswell. ;)
Kupla420: I've NEVER had an issue ordering overseas. Germany may take a while(Their post has been terribly slow for most of last year) but it's not a 'high risk country' for customs and I've had 6+ decent sized orders from there and a few from the NL without any issues. Also, XTC-Express is a good option, but if you're gonna order more than $1,000 I'd go with SuperTrips and get his 'White Speakers'. DON'T take more than 1/2 to start with! Seriously.
futura: I'm sorry man. A lot of people are in your position. Here's the thing though: This new policy of having to post 50 times DOES make it A LOT easier on the mods keeping spam out of the rest of the forum. The majority of the users are over 50 posts so it doesn't effect them. Also, I can ALMOST guarantee any questions you have have already been answered in the rest of the forum and you can still read and search there. Maybe take this opportunity to teach some other members things you have learned?
DrugsAndCash: I have no idea. If i find out I'll let you know. ;)
maxieB: Thanks much for the input. :) You might wanna post [clearnet warning] or something like that immediatey before the link just to give them a heads up. Some people are to dumb(or high) to notice before copying and pasting and you're not obligated to look out for them but it's certainy a nice gesture. :D
What exactly do you mean by a [clearnet warning] ? If folks are reading my post on SR, they are on the Tor network, right? So if they copy/paste that link in the address bar, what exactly am I warning them against? ???
~maxieB
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martin322: Tbh, I don't purchase any bud on SR and I don't tend to read threads about it so I can't offer any personal insight in that case. I can however suggest checking the rumor mill for information. Also, 1 of the stickied threads in the rumor mill should be a list of links to vendor discussion organized by substance. That would be a great place to start.
maxieB: A lot of people don't want to go to clearnet sites via their tor browser or even have a clearnet browser running while using tor.
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Wouldn't having a regular browser open at the same time as TOR browser be essentially the same thing as having any other computer connected to your router while using TOR?
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sonofanarchy: I'm pretty sure not. I'm not a security expert. I know that the things mentioned are considered bad ideas by the experts in the community.
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Wouldn't having a regular browser open at the same time as TOR browser be essentially the same thing as having any other computer connected to your router while using TOR?
no because it would be the same MAC address even if the ip has been mask by a proxy
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There's no risk using another browser while on tor.
Just make sure that you open the links you find in here inside tor !
In any other case you are fine browsing clearnet and darknet at the same time.
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ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?!? Don't lie to people and give them terrible advice on MY thread! This is for HARM REDUCTION, not for TEH LULZ. Dumbass.
Please don't listen to 'acider' or take such risks. Idiot's like this are the one's that give drug users a bad stigma.
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ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?!? Don't lie to people and give them terrible advice on MY thread! This is for HARM REDUCTION, not for TEH LULZ. Dumbass.
Please don't listen to 'acider' or take such risks. Idiot's like this are the one's that give drug users a bad stigma.
You shouldn't accuse people about things you have no idea about. Being a noob is fine, being a dick is not.
I am waiting for an explanation why you shouldn't use another browser. But I m sure if you had one you would have already posted it ;)
There are two small risks I know about involved in browsing while tor, both avoidable if you re not an idiot.
First is using a link that you found here, could be a setup especially if it links to a low activity site or specific page.
The second one I ve read about involves an onion request from clearnet DNS, for example you writing silkroad.onion address on chrome instead of tbb. In that case you won't get the page of course but someone suggested the DNS could be capturing these requests, at least for known hidden services. You just have to keep clearnet/darknet activities seperated.
You might learn some more if you are not such a dick.
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Bro, my reaction was justified by you giving bad advice. Read through Pine's threads. I don't know if you have been around that long. She covered it pretty well as did guru. I stated I'm not a security expert, but you aren't well versed in it either, obviously.
The fact that you've admitted there ARE reasons why a person should not do so nullifies your argument. Especially since we're in the Newbie Discussion subforum and I made this thread TO HELP THE NEWBIES. Why would you tell them that without even making them aware of the security risks. I didn't go into detail because it would needlessly complicate and elongate this thread which you have accomplished making it difficult for them to find their answers. The other reason I didn't give them the exact reason but told them to search for it was to make them independent in their searching so they rely on others less. So i suppose I don't mind you acting the fool and clogging up this thread as it will also help them learn to use the search function.
The first risk you mentioned is part of the reason I gave advice to maxieB earlier in this thread to use a *clearnet warning* which sparked this discussion. The second is possible. I'd think it wouldn't be terribly probable though as some systems are setup to automatically route any request for darknet domains through a tor2web service.
If you'd gone back through and read the thread I've been around for a while. I was admittedly one of the first gawker wave, but my User ID on the road was < 10,000. You probably don't remember being able to see who registered in what order on the market. You also probably don't remember the days when every account had the ability to sell Items. And the only reason an account changed to a vendor account was if the person listed an item for sale. this was before the fee to become a vendor. This was EVEN before the idea to AUCTION off vendor accounts; LONG before THIS forum existed in any small inkling of it's current form. So back the fuck down and don't question your elder, boy
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post.
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Thanks for bumping my thread. ;) You sure you don't have any questions so you can benefit by your time here?
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I don't have any questions. I just wanna bump ya!
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I don't have any questions. I just wanna bump ya!
I appreciate it. :) MAD Props to you man. I see you're from my generation with the user id # to prove it! ;)
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Hi mate!
I wish to know how to edit your message after "FE"
Thanks!
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Sure thing!
Personally I wouldn't leave any feedback after FE. It doesn't serve any purpose and keeps people from seeing true feedback without looking through more pages(takes FOREVER via TOR). You can click 'finalize' and then not type anything in and submit it Just navigate away from the 'orders' page.
If however you've already left FE feedback click on Account->View Feedback(on right side of page). From there you can view all the feedback you've left in the past 3 months and edit it if you so choose. :)
God Bless!
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Thanks mate I appreciate your time.
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@BuscaLuz: NP man! :D
In Zombai Spy Labs' thread this question was asked by oheesawteewaya . I don't want to overstep my bounds by posting on his thread so I figured I'd answer it here.
I haven't made any purchases yet, but I was wondering if it is best to order domestic here in North America and stay away from international? It seems customs would be
a problem?
Also would it be better to use a p.o. box rather than have it shipped to home address?
Thanks for all the help!
On to your answer. Many different people are in different circumstances. Some don't mind receiving international orders. Most personal users DO mind it though I think. The funny thing is that it's only people buying for personal use that aren't at much risk for a customs seizure.
Honestly I've been on the road for well over a year. I've had over 5 dozen orders and over 80% of those orders were international to the US. I've never LOST a pack. I made one VERY SMALL order that didn't show. It was a sample from a new vendor who got his account banned after a couple weeks when nobody's pack turned up. Most people who say stuff didn't show up are just scamming the vendors.
I personally wouldn't hesitate to purchase from overseas. Just do your research and be aware it may take 4 days or a month to arrive. Also, I'd verify with the vendor(if it isn't stated on their profile) whether they require a signature.
As far as a delivery point, most people are of the opinion that it's better to use an address, but some people aren't in the position to do that. I've never used a po box but if my circumstances changed and I needed to I'd feel comfortable doing so if I set it up using a fake name.