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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: aeneas77 on October 29, 2011, 09:24 pm
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Hi Guys I ordered from different vendors Amphetamine, here a really SUBJECTIVE Ranklist:
1. Dr.Amsterdam : really uncut stuff, great experience and quality very strong
2. Streetpharmacy/Speed Doctor: Great Stuff little bit weaker than Dr.A
3. Pillow Talk: more cut, but average stuff
4.Lat Batch from Jürgen: not very good, heavily cut stuff, End of the list, Hope the new Batch is better
I Have to say this is my subjective opinion and no offense to the guys above
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have not tried the other guys but Dr. Amsterdam's speed is very good.
hilly
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iam in favour of Streetpharmacy/Speed Doctor's stuff :)
but i will sample Dr.Amsterdam's stuff next week thats the only one left then i think i have tried all speed vendors :)
the worst stuff i had was from aakoven caused me and my mates serious headaches!
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1. DrAmsterdam, real clean potent stuff!!
2. Speed doctor, not as good as DRA but still nice
Others..
Juergen2001, xtcking, etc.. all cut and less potent.
Pillowtalk ...havent sampled this one yet.
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What about Der Speed Doktor?
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Oh I am rather glad I found this. This will be my first post here even though I have been lurking for about a month now.
I recently made my first ever purchase with Juergen and since I had essentially been stalking his page to view the feedback for a bit I felt ok finalizing early. I received it fine. The packaging was excellent and I couldn't wait to try it out.
Now its been a while since I have had speed(months) and the last 3gs I had were very cut and I knew it was so i was looking forward to maybe some better quality. I tried this and at first I thought maybe it was something wrong with me like my tolerance was high or something(but its been like 2 months since i last had speed) because I was having to take like a gram and a bit at a time for a proper buzz. I have a powder scale so I have been measuring it out.
I am on about 0.65 right now and though I feel something, its not much. Maybe its just a bad batch. Apart from that I am a happy customer.
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Dr.Amsterdam speed over 50% ? so 80-100mg dosage is ok ?
I have tested once uncut speed...omg 50mg was so good....
I mix pills so i´m looking only good stuff...and some ppl want mdma+speed mix.
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I've been looking into obtaining some amphetamine on here soon and was wondering which out of these vendors would be best to order from to the US?
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Not being into really potent crystal but liking a boost of real energy, I have found the "White Ice" pills from mrouid to be wonderful. Half a tab gets me going and keeps me going for most of the day. They can be crushed and snorted if you want, but I find they last much longer if you just eat them. Also, if you are going to order from him, it is well worth the extra BTC sent directly to him for the Express Post option. Takes about 3 days with this option, two weeks or more without. Canada's postal system seems to be notoriously slow.
I'm not a huge meth / speed fan, but these rock my world!
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Oh I am rather glad I found this. This will be my first post here even though I have been lurking for about a month now.
I recently made my first ever purchase with Juergen and since I had essentially been stalking his page to view the feedback for a bit I felt ok finalizing early. I received it fine. The packaging was excellent and I couldn't wait to try it out.
Now its been a while since I have had speed(months) and the last 3gs I had were very cut and I knew it was so i was looking forward to maybe some better quality. I tried this and at first I thought maybe it was something wrong with me like my tolerance was high or something(but its been like 2 months since i last had speed) because I was having to take like a gram and a bit at a time for a proper buzz. I have a powder scale so I have been measuring it out.
I am on about 0.65 right now and though I feel something, its not much. Maybe its just a bad batch. Apart from that I am a happy customer.
Agree completely. I got a couple of gees off him back in early September and it was total rubbish, not at all the speed paste he advertised but heavily cut powder. There wouldve been some good speed in there at some point (because it smelt right) but it was so heavily stepped on it didnt do much. I've just bought a couple more of his "new" batch and if it's no good I wont get anymore off him and just stick to his MDMA which was right on the money.
That pink champagne aakoven has looks pretty mint though, has anyone had any of that?
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Heh, looks like this hasn't been commented on for some time, although I couldn't find any collaborations on amphetamine and I think it would be pretty useful to everybody.
Anyway, I've had a lot of experience with amphetamine locally and so far I've ordered it once on SR so I'll just post about that:
Aakoven's "pink" speed.
I decided to give this a try, especially since the prices are very fair.
It arrived fairly quickly, in under a fortnight (I'm in Australia and some "packages" can take up to an entire month to arrive), and it was packaged in a VERY clever and disguised way.
The smell was very potent, and I know that's not any absolute indicator about its quality but it gives you some idea.
I test everything with the Marquis reagent (or Mandelin reagent if the Marquis is inconclusive), and this stuff tested very quickly to orange*.
* Orange indicates amphetamine, methamphetamine or mescaline (though mescaline is not very common and often even more expensive).
Generally it was fairly potent, although not pure, and the adulterants make it not suitable for smoking (ie. they burn/decompose).
It definitely gave me quite an energy boost :P.
I also tried an acetone wash in order to purify it which did remove most of the adulterants (somewhere around 10-30% of the total mass), and it also removed some of the pink colouring.
So if you're not just using it personally and want to keep that "pink champagne" label then don't do that.
The acetone wash did make it much more suitable for smoking however.
Anyway, it's pretty good stuff. Better than most street amphetamine (in Australia), ESPECIALLY for the price. Not made for smoking though.
It IS speed (amphetamine) and not ice (methamphetamine), which is what it's advertised as, and I'd give it extra points for the trustworthy seller (this was one of my first buys on SR), excellent packaging and the fact that it's very unlikely to be checked by customs (especially useful for international orders) ;).
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I too purchased 5grams of pink speed from aakoven a few weeks ago (around 14th Nov), not too sure if it is the same batch being sold now, but, here is my honest opinion:
- Product smelt and tasted like amphetamine, so did not feel the need to test up with the marquis testing kit.
-Weighed out 1/2 a gram for both me and my partner each and drank it in some water at around 6pm
- Took about 30/40 mins to start feeling effects.
- Hands were a little shaky and had to go to the toilet (as you normally do).
- After about an 1hr I was not getting the buzzie kind of warm feeling where your thoughts are clear and feel very positive.
- Instead it made us feel a little to very anxious, fuzzy vision and a bit drowsy with a minor headache.
- We did feel a little more awake by taking the stuff but just felt like taking a strong does of sudafed.
- By 11pm I felt like going to bed.
I fully respect this seller for putting their necks on the line and being very professional with SR but my wife and I feel they also need to know the truth too from our side of the fence.
Thank you for your understanding.
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Generally it was fairly potent, although not pure, and the adulterants make it not suitable for smoking (ie. they burn/decompose).
I'm doing lot of speed since 20 years, but never heard of someone smoking it...
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when i was living in germany at first the speed situation was great with a steady supply from a chemist that was 99% pure. one small line would give you a clean rush for 4-6 hours and keep you up for 12 easy. 5 day club runs were a breeze. he was busted though and then i had to deal with other forms of speed that were cut with one thing or another , each one worse than the last. had to deal with the inconsistent supply and was constantly having to test out new varieties that would come to market - occasionally a good batch would come along but to be honest at that point i had just resigned to quitting, which i did.
soon after though my main dealer ran into another chemist providing pure speed again and it was back on - a new love affair had begun. unfortunately though i left germany mid tryst :( this coupled with the fact that my dealer was big time and didn't want to mail me drugs out of the country.
where am i going with this? well from what i've read so far on this board re: the speed situation it reminds me a lot of the stuff i would find on the streets and had no desire to do. not to put anyone's gear down or anything but i hope a dealer comes along soon that will provide pure unadulterated speed for the sr community. please please i really do.. for now i have resigned myself to ordering meth since the quality seems to be top notch but my true love will always be speed - hopefully someone will be able to become my lover :)
keep this thread alive.
btw i used to pay 10euros a gram for the pure stuff.
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I too purchased 5grams of pink speed from aakoven a few weeks ago (around 14th Nov), not too sure if it is the same batch being sold now, but, here is my honest opinion
Hey Lordb just curious why you posted the exact same post (copy and pasted) under AA white speed, and here you are claiming it was his pink speed you tried. Not calling you a lier more full of shit! Each batch is very different so I find it hard to believe you were confused?
Interesting.......
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Anyone tried hashuk's latest stuff? I urgently need good speed for exams
I used to live in the former USSR, speed is very popular there and to be honest I've been very disappointed by what I've gotten in Western Europe so far. Hardly feel it at all except for vasoconstriction and that uncomfortable feeling in the heart. 80mg of the stuff chemistry students make in Russia will have you tweaking quite hard for 6 hours.
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I recently received an order from the speed doc and I am very disappointed to say the least. This stuff is cut so much I originally thought it was completely bunk. Marquis reagent failed to react at all in a minute (though it eventually turn slightly orange sometime later). Only the weakest barely perceptible stimulation was experienced and only after consumption of .5 of a gram. I still have not left feedback for this purchase as the thought of ruining someones perfect feedback is not something I take lightly. I was not expecting 98.7% purity but I'd guesstimate this to be far less than 5%.
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I too purchased 5grams of pink speed from aakoven a few weeks ago (around 14th Nov), not too sure if it is the same batch being sold now, but, here is my honest opinion
Hey Lordb just curious why you posted the exact same post (copy and pasted) under AA white speed, and here you are claiming it was his pink speed you tried. Not calling you a lier more full of shit! Each batch is very different so I find it hard to believe you were confused?
Interesting.......
Hey hoffa thanks for picking the inconsistancy of my post. It was the pink speed I received from aakoven and yes I did (copy and paste) so I will put my hand up for the mistake (I am only quite new to all this).
Just a word of advice though, please do not call people a liar not lier (you cant even spell) or they are full of shit without asking them if they had made a general mistake!
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Yeah each batch is different, but that is besides the point, dealers should not be trying to sell something that is not the real deal. They should be testing it before being sold to keep a good rep.
All the best FUCKWIT!!!
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I too purchased 5grams of pink speed from aakoven a few weeks ago (around 14th Nov), not too sure if it is the same batch being sold now, but, here is my honest opinion
Hey Lordb just curious why you posted the exact same post (copy and pasted) under AA white speed, and here you are claiming it was his pink speed you tried. Not calling you a lier more full of shit! Each batch is very different so I find it hard to believe you were confused?
Interesting.......
Hey hoffa thanks for picking the inconsistancy of my post. It was the pink speed I received from aakoven and yes I did (copy and paste) so I will put my hand up for the mistake (I am only quite new to all this).
Just a word of advice though, please do not call people a liar not lier (you cant even spell) or they are full of shit without asking them if they had made a general mistake!
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Yeah each batch is different, but that is besides the point, dealers should not be trying to sell something that is not the real deal. They should be testing it before being sold to keep a good rep.
All the best FUCKWIT!!!
"fuckwit" lmfao fuck of noob, I question your integrity and this is the best you come up with? Don't see too many people backing up your "claim"
Peace 8)
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Hey guys!
I recently sampled Blaatz0rs speed (claiming 53% purity) so here is my report:
Did a "average" line to start (50-60mg) because i had those purity figure in mind ^^
Not much nose burn good smell went down smooth.
Effect was euphoric the first 30 min. and after 45 i did another one.
I would say i have quite much experience with speed (its my fav. drug and doing it for almost 6 years now).
I doubt it has that claimed purity because i was missing the clear high. The more you do the more you get... how to say.. puzzled?!
Compared to other gear i bought here its not what iam after. I prefer a clear high and being awake as long as that gear takes me.
I had 1g in 18 hours and went to bed afterwards because i even felt some kind of tiredness.
All in all i would say for people aiming for euphoric feelings without clean body high this gear is okay, but it does not fit my needs i'll stick to Der Speed Doctor's gear.
Hope this reports is helpful for you :)
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Eryx2k9: Try using pure caffeine. It gives you the rush without the euphoria. (swallowing instead of snorting, cause it burns like hell in your noose)
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Hey guys!
I recently sampled Blaatz0rs speed (claiming 53% purity) so here is my report:
Did a "average" line to start (50-60mg) because i had those purity figure in mind ^^
Like I mentioned in some other thread ~70mg of Blaatz0rs speed didn't have much of effect on me (slight stimulation, no euphoria), but I'm a big guy. I gave the rest (~600mg) to a friend. He did most of it (~500mg) in medium lines during an hour or so. Said he experienced euphoria for some time, but not much high after that. Bumped with the last ~100mg in ~6 hours. Didn't sleep for ~36 hours, had work done. No hang-over after good sleep.
Stuff we get locally doesn't have such a strong smell, I think it's heavily cut with caffeine, because the rush is much stronger and there's no euphoria. Also, all previous amphetamine experiences from both me and my friend involved lots of alcohol.
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Apologies for the somewhat off topic post but it is related. I've noticed that some speed vendors weigh their product as "wet" or in paste form - not dry. When weighing wet or paste form this adds weight. I believe the product should be weighed dry. What do you think about this?
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Apologies for the somewhat off topic post but it is related. I've noticed that some speed vendors weigh their product as "wet" or in paste form - not dry. When weighing wet or paste form this adds weight. I believe the product should be weighed dry. What do you think about this?
This is considered normal, at least here in Germany. Furthermore I would say i rather get "fresh" moist / wet paste then dry gear, because it is usually but not necessarily more potent. Sometimes its also a good way for vendors to yielding more when turning gear moist or into paste even if it was dry already. I dont want to say this happens here but its common here in Germany when buying locally / from shady people :)
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That's what I thought. Buying speed is new to me but I did have this problem with a vendor that is ranked highly on SR... Surprised I am the only one who seems to take issue with this vendor and how it's weighed.
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I have used Streetpharmacies speed which actually is SpeedDoktors. It was the worst i have tried. I would say above 5%. I tried AAkovens white who claims is the shit in Holland and was indeed better but still about 5-10%. Nothing special. I used Blatzz0rs and it was indeed better than those twos but still no way 53% as he claims. I would say around 10-15% at best. But since it was better thatn the other 2 i have another one from him, now claiming 57%, sent. Still waiting for it.
Anyway the thing is that those guys dont really know any chemist or whatever they claim. Nor have measured percentage. They just find speed from street it seems and resell it.
I hope that soon someone will really find some good speed and sell it. I would pay good if it was actually 50% .
Till then i am trying to find adderall or Dexedrine or maybe test another seller....
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I too purchased 5grams of pink speed from aakoven a few weeks ago (around 14th Nov), not too sure if it is the same batch being sold now, but, here is my honest opinion
Hey Lordb just curious why you posted the exact same post (copy and pasted) under AA white speed, and here you are claiming it was his pink speed you tried. Not calling you a lier more full of shit! Each batch is very different so I find it hard to believe you were confused?
Interesting.......
Hey hoffa thanks for picking the inconsistancy of my post. It was the pink speed I received from aakoven and yes I did (copy and paste) so I will put my hand up for the mistake (I am only quite new to all this).
Just a word of advice though, please do not call people a liar not lier (you cant even spell) or they are full of shit without asking them if they had made a general mistake!
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Yeah each batch is different, but that is besides the point, dealers should not be trying to sell something that is not the real deal. They should be testing it before being sold to keep a good rep.
All the best FUCKWIT!!!
"fuckwit" lmfao fuck of noob, I question your integrity and this is the best you come up with? Don't see too many people backing up your "claim"
Peace 8)
Hello again Hoffa thanks for your reply, if you had read my response (regarding my integrity), I did put my hand up and admitted I had made a mistake with my post (which I later removed).
So I must question your integrity and ask you who YOU think sells the best speed on SR?
Or are you too gutless?
This thread is only a few weeks old so give it some time and I am sure you will see the truth come out.
And please check your spelling, you spelt noob wrong, it is spelt nob so I think I know who the nob is LOL.
I am assuming english is your second language?
Peace to you too bro 8)
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I have used Streetpharmacies speed which actually is SpeedDoktors. It was the worst i have tried. I would say above 5%. I tried AAkovens white who claims is the shit in Holland and was indeed better but still about 5-10%. Nothing special. I used Blatzz0rs and it was indeed better than those twos but still no way 53% as he claims. I would say around 10-15% at best. But since it was better thatn the other 2 i have another one from him, now claiming 57%, sent. Still waiting for it.
Anyway the thing is that those guys dont really know any chemist or whatever they claim. Nor have measured percentage. They just find speed from street it seems and resell it.
I hope that soon someone will really find some good speed and sell it. I would pay good if it was actually 50% .
Till then i am trying to find adderall or Dexedrine or maybe test another seller....
Well said Misikeli, I too tried AAkovens but the pink stuff (felt no stronger than a few sudafed) when I posted my honest coments on this thread I got questioned about my inetgrity and was asked who else was backing me up on my claim?
I get the feeling these forums are sometimes highjacked by the sellers trying to protect their integrity? Not that I am pointing the finger at AAkoven, maybe he has some good friends... or two...
I like to think some of us have some integrity and should be able to post our honest views without it being questioned.
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I too purchased 5grams of pink speed from aakoven a few weeks ago (around 14th Nov), not too sure if it is the same batch being sold now, but, here is my honest opinion
Hey Lordb just curious why you posted the exact same post (copy and pasted) under AA white speed, and here you are claiming it was his pink speed you tried. Not calling you a lier more full of shit! Each batch is very different so I find it hard to believe you were confused?
Interesting.......
Hey hoffa thanks for picking the inconsistancy of my post. It was the pink speed I received from aakoven and yes I did (copy and paste) so I will put my hand up for the mistake (I am only quite new to all this).
Just a word of advice though, please do not call people a liar not lier (you cant even spell) or they are full of shit without asking them if they had made a general mistake!
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Yeah each batch is different, but that is besides the point, dealers should not be trying to sell something that is not the real deal. They should be testing it before being sold to keep a good rep.
All the best FUCKWIT!!!
"fuckwit" lmfao fuck of noob, I question your integrity and this is the best you come up with? Don't see too many people backing up your "claim"
Peace 8)
And please check your spelling, you spelt noob wrong, it is spelt nob so I think I know who the nob is LOL.
Peace to you too bro 8)
I am begining to like you Lordb I know how to spell Nob but you are a noob......Looser! Google it then you will clearly establish what a noob is and why you look like a dickhead right now. Tooooooooo funny...
So just to summarize, you joined yesterday because you were so compelled to let the community know of your first purchase? Why would I be gutless that's nonsensical? And quite bizarre? Anyway I am thinking you potentially need to lay off the crack, it could be having an adverse effect on your neurological capacity! Still wondering if English is my first language biatchhhhhhhhh!
Peace
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Hey guys I have a speed order coming from DRAmsterdam and just wondering what everyone else thinks of his speed, I did all the mathematics on his speed but I don't know if what i'm thinking is correct as far as potency goes, if anyone could enlighten me on this, that would be awesome!. He says his speed is 35% purity, I run 1000mg x 35%, come up with 350mg. To me this seems like a pretty great amount of amphetamine for the price posted. I'm hoping these 350 miligrams will give me about the same effect as an equal portion of Adderall. All responses appreciated!!
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I too purchased 5grams of pink speed from aakoven a few weeks ago (around 14th Nov), not too sure if it is the same batch being sold now, but, here is my honest opinion
Hey Lordb just curious why you posted the exact same post (copy and pasted) under AA white speed, and here you are claiming it was his pink speed you tried. Not calling you a lier more full of shit! Each batch is very different so I find it hard to believe you were confused?
Interesting.......
Hey hoffa thanks for picking the inconsistancy of my post. It was the pink speed I received from aakoven and yes I did (copy and paste) so I will put my hand up for the mistake (I am only quite new to all this).
Just a word of advice though, please do not call people a liar not lier (you cant even spell) or they are full of shit without asking them if they had made a general mistake!
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Yeah each batch is different, but that is besides the point, dealers should not be trying to sell something that is not the real deal. They should be testing it before being sold to keep a good rep.
All the best FUCKWIT!!!
"fuckwit" lmfao fuck of noob, I question your integrity and this is the best you come up with? Don't see too many people backing up your "claim"
Peace 8)
And please check your spelling, you spelt noob wrong, it is spelt nob so I think I know who the nob is LOL.
Peace to you too bro 8)
I am begining to like you Lordb I know how to spell Nob but you are a noob......Looser! Google it then you will clearly establish what a noob is and why you look like a dickhead right now. Tooooooooo funny...
So just to summarize, you joined yesterday because you were so compelled to let the community know of your first purchase? Why would I be gutless that's nonsensical? And quite bizarre? Anyway I am thinking you potentially need to lay off the crack, it could be having an adverse effect on your neurological capacity! Still wondering if English is my first language biatchhhhhhhhh!
Peace
Whatever hoffa, I just had another toke on my crack pipe as you suggested and had this moment of clarity and realised, I can no longer respond to your childish (you are probably only about 15 years old) remarks, and your lack of using the english language does my head in.
I know when I have tried shit speed and aakvoens pink stuff was terrible.
In future pal, if you want to come onto these forums and try to put people down for trying to make an honest review, show some balls (if they have dropped yet) and let people know who you think has the best speed!!!
Have a nice day!
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FWIW.
I've tried aakoven's white and pink, and dramsterdams stuff.
The Doctors gear is amazing! felt really clean, no blocked nose and only needed tiny lines of it. 2g's has gone a long way, I still have a little bit left that I'm saving. It was kinda stickyin the bag and really smelly.
aakovens stuff was ok, dry and powdery though in comparison.
Oh, Loser is spelt with one 'O' sorta makes you sound like a dill when you argue over silly stuff like that doesn't it?
Let's stop the name calling, it's not kindergarten.
Great review Million, there seems to be people on this forum who just want try to discredit you for posting an honest opinion instead of putting in their own review. They definitely need to go somewhere else off these forums...
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CrestScope there is no way that it would be 35% . Althought i havent tested him but i will soon. Generally speed being sold here is shity from above 5% to 10% most. Thats my estimate.
So for first time i would say to 100mg. That would be like 35mg of amphetamine if is really 35% purity. So it should be more than very good. Have also in mind that speed is 50%Dextroamphetamine 50%levoamphetamine while adderall is about 75%dextroamphetamine 25%levoamphetamine. Dextroamphetamine is what the euphoria.
Now since i believe ot would be about 10% purity it may feel like a 10mg adderall at best...
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Nice job lordb very predictable response and telling to your mentality. I still don't understand you wanting me to name the best speed I have had, weird but again telling.... You have yourself a great Christmas and sincerely lay of the drugs, it's clearly messing with your head 8)
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i tried juergen2001 speed last night, i had 100mg at 5pm then another 100mg at 8pm and i was definitely feeling stimulated
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Had dr amsterdams tonight. Was fucking awesome to say the least! First time.
75mg dosage so fun partying.
Cheers Dr
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I sampled the whole gram Juergen(2001) sent me over the space of a few hours and whist it kept me awake it was nothing spectacular and was cut for sure. The packaging and price was good so I guess you get what you pay for.
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Received my 1g from juergen2001 today.
It took two weeks, I received and finalized it, because I trusted his positive feedback.
First I sniffed 0,3g and felt nothing, after an hour I sniffed all the rest and still no effect.
Then I noticed one line in his feedback list:
«1 of 5 I was going to leave a good message because it came within a week, but the quality is awful. Didn't feel anything from just over half a gram, the quality is terrible. I won't bother again. »
WTF, juergen? I'm so fucking disappointed.
btw, how can I get my refund if already finalized it?
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drop him a message, that his product is not as advertised and if he can work something out for you.
You can still change your feedback when you click on your account tab upper right on SR site.
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drop him a message, that his product is not as advertised and if he can work something out for you.
You can still change your feedback when you click on your account tab upper right on SR site.
Thanks!!
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drop him a message, that his product is not as advertised and if he can work something out for you.
You can still change your feedback when you click on your account tab upper right on SR site.
Thanks!!
np mate ;) try Dramsterdam or Der Speed Doktor if you still want amphe / speed :)
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/16189
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Never used speed before but ZZ top speed pills from mrouid are nice, i think.
1/3 part of pill (orally) gived me nice concentration. Added 2/3 after 1 or 2 hours and also got nice pleasing effect and a bit mad jaw.
Communication and packaging are perfect.
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I've heard there's meth in those ZZ Top pills and the ICE pills. I don't know for sure. Maybe it's mixed with amp too.
If you want good speed order from vortexmilkman, heisenburg, or Dopeboy (if he makes more). It's meth but nice and pure. I was up for 24 hours after my last line and felt great. 500 mg of product from them keeps me going for 3 days.
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ordered from Der Speed Doktor right before xmas, his latest / new batch is the shit, even more potent then what i got local in the "good" times
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eryx2k9 can you elaborate on dosage you took?
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eryx2k9 can you elaborate on dosage you took?
at least i can try :)
I started my binge at 11am on the 21. of december and was up for 59 hours without a break with about 1,5 to 1,7g (weighted dry).
the initial line was huge maybe 80-100 mg followed by a smaller one about 50mg 30 mins later. When tweaking i always try not to rail more then once a hour (50-60 mg i guess) but this depends on gear and own status of course, sometimes more sometimes less. After about 30 hours i usually do a kind of "break" (pause railing for 2 -3 hours or so) and restart with a big one :)
dont forget to buy a saline nasal spray! as this gear dries your nose trills very fast and remaining gear causing damage.
hope i could help you with my report and that you are able to get the meaning :)
regards eryx2k9
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Mmm. Thanks for the reply :) I think i will try again his speed and see :)
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Hi there fellow speedlovers,
I've only bought speed from AA here on SR, so can't really make a vendor-to-vendor-comparison, older speed-experiences were from streetdealers...
So here's my story on AA's white; (For those of you who think 'tl;dr' there's a small conclusion at the bottom)
Made my first order about a month ago, which was only 2gr (I thought I'd try it first). Took some on a thursday soon after and REALLY digged the stuff, so I decided to order a larger quantity.
A while back I had a real tough exam on a subject which, in my honest opinion, is boring as FUCK... so I used pretty small doses as a study-aid for 3 days... Perfect! Scored 75% on this impossible motherfcker! While there were plenty of people who've studied for weeks, and they failed... (Also IQ is a factor there of course, but the speed deff helped me!). So if you're looking for something to help you get through your homework or studying, small doses of speed are a real good idea!
But of course, speed isn't only for studying...
So we had nye comming up... And a mate and I decided to take a good party-dose of AA's speed... Can't exactly tell you how much since I don't have a scale or anything, I just measure everything out with a key and my eye... And WOW, what a nye it has been! Really amazing buzz, great feeling all night long, and during the comedown I was still feeling great, just really peaceful, calm and satisfied...
Now though AA told me he had a new batch which he claimed was even better then the old... Got my package within just a few days (EXTREMELY fast, as usual with AA). So I took a small hit this morning and while the first effects were comming up I decided to take just a little bit more... Just for fun... So now I'm on about 3/4 the dose I took on nye... And feeling A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!
Can't comment on percentages or purity or anything, since I've never known exact purity of the amphetamines I took in the past...
What I can tell you however is that this new batch is THE REAL DEAL!
Conclusion
AA's older white speed was good, his new batch, is amazing!
But again, I can't compare vendor-to-vendor yet...
Thank you AA! You make me proud to be a Dutch guy =)
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I've heard there's meth in those ZZ Top pills and the ICE pills. I don't know for sure. Maybe it's mixed with amp too.
If you want good speed order from vortexmilkman, heisenburg, or Dopeboy (if he makes more). It's meth but nice and pure. I was up for 24 hours after my last line and felt great. 500 mg of product from them keeps me going for 3 days.
I totally agree with this. If your are in the USA i suggest your order meth instead. I was a huge speed freak in germany and never really tried meth until buying some on sr when i came back to the states. The high is cleaner and very similar to the really good pure speed i used to get.
Gotta say one thing about germany - there is a lot of really really crappy speed on the street there. Thankfully i was connected with a dealer who sells to all the djs there as my supplier but even his source got hit once and it took him almost a year to find quality stuff again. The cops make it a special priority to go after the really good stuff after testing it if you get caught.
I am still not impressed with what i am hearing about the speed on sr, i might have to hit up one of the german dealers myself and set him up with my old connection. Let me have a think on that.... Either that or just stick with the meth. In the end it's not any more expensive. .5 grams keeps me up for 5 days. Just be careful if you are a first time meth user and buy a scale to keep your dosages right.
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Juergen2001 is a scammer. I bought something he claims to be "high quality speed", it arrived on nice packaging but the product seems to be nothing but baking flour cut with caffeine. What the fuck. >:(
I finalized early because im new customer.
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Hi,
i have bought some Meth to VortexMilkMan .... He's a top vendor, product good packaging, very discret ... i go to test it and i give reviews
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i have tryed Juergen2001's speed and hashuk's speed, haskuk's speed is better quality by roughly 50%
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matty797, have you tried white speed from hashuk? I sniffed 100mg of it and felt nothing.
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I highly recommend VortexMilkMan. Great packaging and a super nice clean high.
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the product seems to be nothing but baking flour cut with caffeine.
I have never used juergen so I can't speak from experience. But this "baking soda and caffeine" comment is pretty explosive especially from a self-described noob here. Has a real lab analyzed it and found it factually to be baking soda and caffeine? No? The conditional qualifier "seems" doesn't give you either credibility or protection. You have accused him of sending you baking soda and caffeine. You'd better prove it in black and white.
More importantly, do you know how to handle and use European speed paste? If you're in the U.S. and used to meth, it's nothing like that.
I have no reason to stand up for juergen but here and elsewhere I have seen noob Americans get speed paste from Europe and fuck it up so many ways I no longer am surprised that someone can come up with a new way to mishandle it. If that's not you, I apologize, but for a noob to accuse a long-time vendor of doing something as ham-fisted and amateurish as trying to pass off baking soda and caffeine as amphetamine sulfate makes me doubt at least your insight and capacity.
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I have done three small orders with Der Speed Doktor. Each transaction was top-notch in every detail.
Now he seems to have disappeared and I see a couple people are asking where is their product. He has been here so long and I have had so many solid interactions with him I doubt there is anything fishy. I'm sure there are other good non-meth speed vendors here but if a potential buyer wishes to wait for him to come back and get his current business leveled out, I'm sure that you'd be more than pleased with Der Speed Doktor.
But be cool and wait for him to come back and finish delivering the orders he has in the pipeline. I said I am sure there's nothing fishy but over and over here I have seen this typical behavior pattern: a good and long-time vendor (a) suddenly stops logging on, (b) delays or ignores many existing orders then (c) when he comes back, he's a different person and either becomes very sketchy or an outright scammer.
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matty797, have you tried white speed from hashuk? I sniffed 100mg of it and felt nothing.
isnt all speed white?
i got his most recent batch, December stuff, and 100mg had me feeling it slightly, ended up snorting 300mg and i was up all night
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juergen2001 has a new listing up
silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/17244
some one buy some and let us know if his claims are true
he did say that his old speed was good aswell, but never claimed any % of purity
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Just received 5g of AA new super speed, all I can say is WOW! This gear has blown my mind. 5th transaction and once again flawless! 4 days to Aust!
On ya AA you are a legend mate!
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Hi,
I have tried most of the speed from the vendor`s on SR and i would say that the best i have had was DRamsterdams stuff.
Now with AAkoven and Juergen2001 both having new batches available i am wondering which to choose from.I see hoffa can vouch for AA`s new stuff and i know AA is a top vendor, i have ordered speed from AA before but the quality in my opinion was not that good.
Has anybody tried Juergen2001 new 80% speed yet? It`s a bit on the expensive side but if its top quality speed i would not mind paying that sort of price.
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Think i will try AAkovens speed i have heard its alot better than his last batch and its quite a bit cheaper than Juergen2001.Until i here the reviews of Juergen2001 new speed i think the price is a bit high like bonovic says, don`t fancy paying top money for average speed.If anybody gets any of Juergen2001 speed it would be good to here a review of it.
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hey guys, i ordered juergen's 80% gear 2 days ago, should arrive tomorrow, will keep you post!
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Hope its top stuff eryx2k9 will look out for your post.
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Received mine (from the 80%) today, i´had pretty high expectations especially when i pay such a high price. . But i´m sorry to say, it´s even or worse than his last batch, which was already total shit. Took the whole gram today, and felt nearly nothing. It even looks 100% identical than his last one. Last order from this Vendor, definitely. I rather drink coffee.
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Bummer to hear so far....I will wait to read a review from a more senior user before I'm totally sad.
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wow that is so disappointing. I am looking @ maybe picking up some Speed, but it seems like its so hard to find.
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new here :) http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/134227 for speed samples :)
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Just received 5g of AA new super speed, all I can say is WOW! This gear has blown my mind. 5th transaction and once again flawless! 4 days to Aust!
On ya AA you are a legend mate!
Awesome to hear mate! I've got some on the way, hopefully it gets here before the weekend as I wouldn't mind indulging! I'm not a huge fan of it anymore since I moved from SA to Vic. All the stuff here is absolutely shit. Just keeps you awake and thirsty, not much else. Back in SA, the stuff I used to get was phenomenal! Felt like an absolute king.
How does this stuff stack up to local gear? By the way, can't believe how bloody cheap it is haha! Amazing =)
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Just received 5g of AA new super speed, all I can say is WOW! This gear has blown my mind. 5th transaction and once again flawless! 4 days to Aust!
On ya AA you are a legend mate!
Awesome to hear mate! I've got some on the way, hopefully it gets here before the weekend as I wouldn't mind indulging! I'm not a huge fan of it anymore since I moved from SA to Vic. All the stuff here is absolutely shit. Just keeps you awake and thirsty, not much else. Back in SA, the stuff I used to get was phenomenal! Felt like an absolute king.
How does this stuff stack up to local gear? By the way, can't believe how bloody cheap it is haha! Amazing =)
Well you know for us Auusies we get ripped locally for price and quality, SR has just given us the ability to say NO to the local garbage. Saying that I believe we still have some of the best weed around the world. And the local weed boys are awesome!
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Hey guys, received my 80% " purity " today from juergen2001 as already mentioned, its far away from being good gear. Its not that bad as described in former posts but thats only my humble opinion. i would guess not more then 20% if i had to.
Juergen2001 delisted this item...
greetz eryx2k9
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Bah that sucks, serves me right for not checking on here before purchasing.
Not to mention that this would be the third time now I've bought speed from Juergen and it's turned out to be shite.
The MDMA is nice, but this is the last time I'm stupid enough to buy speed off him : /
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I thought I'd repost this here so more people can see it:
I bought 3g's of speed from Blaatz0r's "XMAS Sale" and decided he was trustworthy enough to early finalize with. After 2 weeks, I asked him why my package hadn't arrived yet and he said Christmas and New Years must have slowed down my package. Fair enough. One week later and this has me suspicious especially since I have already gotten a package from another vendor in the Netherlands in less than a week. I think I have been patient in waiting over 3 weeks so far (I ordered on Dec 20). Now all he can tell me is that shipping to the states is unpredictable. I will never finalize early again and I believe it shouldn't even be allowed on this website.
All I can say is look through his feedback and see how many no arrivals and early finalize he has. I believe he is a selective scammer that decided to take advantage of the fact that I am a new user. For shame, stay VERY far away if you have to early finalize
never finalize early ! my Transaction with Baatz0r was okay beside i dont like his speed ^^ but i stayed within escrow :o
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Ok so i tried these days DrAmsterdams, Juergens and the Xmas speed that Blaatzor sells...
Blaatzor's was okay like the others times. Not real good but still better than others i have tried before. I also finalised early but i received it.
Juergens was indeed worst i have ever tried. He is actually a scammer in speed. It was indeed caffeine as someone else stated. 300mg was exackly like a monster energy. Never again from him...
As for DrAmsterdams well i have to say it was the best i have tried. I felt it cleaner although i am not sure. Also stronger than other 5 i have tried. Not 35% as he declared of course but it should be around 10-15% .
One fact. People who state that have speed above 50% are stupid or scammers. First of all most illegal manufactors just cant make cleaner than 70% because price skyrockets. Then if you see european purity of amphetamine you will see that at best you may find lets say 25%. And actully it is between 1-10% in most cases and it is getting worse year by year...
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thanks guys for posting reviews of the latest and greatest offerings from the vendors. was this close to ordering juergen's 80% pure speed but i am glad i held off. hope you guys are at least trying to get a refund of some kind...
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sure, i pm'ed him already!
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How does this stuff stack up to local gear? By the way, can't believe how bloody cheap it is haha! Amazing =)
Well if I'm honest, if you compare it to prices of local dealers here in The Netherlands it's actually still pretty expensive. (about double the price) But there is nothing wrong with that, I think we all agree that SR is a special place :-) and good vendors can make good money here.
Yeah, I hear people on here sometimes complaining about the prices, but us Aussies are pretty much jumping with joy! A gram of speed over here will cost you usually $100! Our dollar is pretty much on par with the US at the moment, so you can work out how expensive that is! You might be able to get it for cheaper, but that's what I usually get charged. Pills are usually $30 or so, and they usually contain BZP, DXM or whatever else. Only just recently has MDMA started to come back here in pills. So for the price of 2 shitty pills in Australia, on SR you can buy a gram of what would be probably the best MDMA this country has seen. So yeah, you will never see us complaining about the prices!! =)
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Generally it was fairly potent, although not pure, and the adulterants make it not suitable for smoking (ie. they burn/decompose).
I'm doing lot of speed since 20 years, but never heard of someone smoking it...
Well by 'smoking' I meant vaporizing it. Amphetamine/methamphetamine hydrochloride (and freebase forms - but freebase amphetamine/methamphetamine is an oil) can be used this way, amphetamine sulphate apparently decomposes before it can be vaporized.
It's a fairly common method of use, especially around my area.
Incidentally, does anybody know the exact adulterants used in these various batches of speed on SR?
Such information would be very useful :). The major cutters seem to be water insoluble, because after an acetone wash and a recrystallization in cold H2O the sample was essentially pure amphetamine (and it still worked out to be cheaper than acquiring 'pure' amphetamine locally ;)).
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aakhoven is BIG MAN, very fast, good stuff good talking and answering on email.
from NL to G arrived in just 2 days, stuff is strong and pure amphetamine.
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I ordered 5g last week from juergon because I am fairly new on here and when I saw hus speed listing 80% AND he has a number #1 ranking I got excited and jumped it. My product has not arrived yet but my hopes are dashed after readung the reviews.
It is impossible to get good speed. AA probably is good wont ship to usa anymore. I did get some meth from vortex that turned me on like a switch but I like speed better. Somebody else on here used the term "king" and that is SO fitting a word for good speed. Meth is tooo much, good speed just puts you up there like a King for hours and hours and hours.
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Waiting on 3g from juergon at the moment, got stuff from him back in december that was so/so in a reasonable time. Gotta check when I ordered the "80%" stuff but should be here any day if its coming.
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Speed in amphetamine powder (salt) form is amphetamine sulphate that in its purest form is 73% amphetamine and 27% sulphate with no other substances. If it has a higher purity than it's pretty much always in amphetamine base liquid form aka freebase.
Well, amphetamine hydrochloride is ~78% amphetamine/~22% hydrochloride by mass :P.
But generally people include the salt when considering the "purity". Even though it really can make a HUGE difference, especially when you move to salts with even higher molecular masses (amphetamine saccharate is only 56% amphetamine by mass, for example).
Still, even with the "purity" being a measure of the quantity of the salt w/w, 40% does seem pretty accurate at best.
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They're a lot of speed pills around here. I think they contains methamphetamine as my friend been tested positive for meth after taking them.
I like speed pills once in a while but I hate the fact that I really don't know what's in them.
Would eating Crystal meth be a good idea ? I'm thinking about a dose ( 100mg ? ) of crystal into a gelcap.
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I'm interested in the oral dosages of crystal myself but I'm currently under the impression that you'd want to look for something more around 50mg and possibly less if you have no tolerance for amphetamines. This is based off of internet word of mouth and no experience however. I'd love to get some input from experienced users.
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Nuke - your message made me lol. Just the way it read, "would it be a good idea....?"
The answer in my opion is yes, it is a good idea. I dropped about half a point 1 pt in my Diet Pepsi last week when I was having an otherwise boring day doing chores and shit like that. Fucking killer nice day with it and up for 20 hours.
Enjoy. Depending on your meth though you might want to start out with a smaller dose. I had been snorting mine a few days ago so I knew the strength. They answer though is yes, hehe it is a good idea ;)
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HEY brothers does anyone have the line on Dopey? Does he have shit?
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They're a lot of speed pills around here. I think they contains methamphetamine as my friend been tested positive for meth after taking them.
I like speed pills once in a while but I hate the fact that I really don't know what's in them.
Would eating Crystal meth be a good idea ? I'm thinking about a dose ( 100mg ? ) of crystal into a gelcap.
not really the thread for this but ....
although the effect of speed and meth are similar when snorted or taken orally the dosages are extremely different to get to the same place. I assume you've never done meth and if you are ordering off sr you're gonna get a high quality product so I would advise only taking 30-40mg tops and see how you feel after an hour.
Here is a link to the erowid meth dosage chart - if you're not familiar with erowid it's the most trusted drug resource center and a great place to use for researching your next drug.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/meth/meth_dose.shtml
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Thanks guys.
I just wanted to make sure that it could be taken orally...that's good news !!
I always start small and I've did quite a few pills in my life so I know I have to be careful.
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HI there,
first: I have to say, that this is my first post in this forum. Normally I think that a forum is for the customers to share information about products and sellers and not for me as a seller to make advertising or anything else like other sellers do here on the forum.
But since I read the article about some buyers here, I have to take position and I hope you understand that.
I seriously don't understand the guys here, especially this DR... I send him my normal MDMA, like always. It is lab tested pure and uncut. Of course it looks like different colors if you crush the crystals really good. He tells me all the time that he want's a refund but I simply don't get for what. He ordered MDMA and got the MDMA and now he wants money back. Honestly who would do that? I can tell you DR you won't get a single cent. I work with SR very close and I get always what I want, because they know that I am here to make people happy and not to hurt somebody.
second:
why the hell do people still think I am a scamer? What is wrong with you guys? I have more than 2000 successful shipments and you really think I want to loose costumers only to get 100$ extra?!?!?? This selective scaming thing is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. I talk to other sellers here on SR a lot and they always tell me the same, that some buyers take advantage of the escrow to rip people off.
For the seller it is totally stupid to scam anybody, this is why you can count on that none of the top 5 seller is a scamer. even selective scamming is absolutely unnecessary! If you understand only a little from business on the internet (I hope the guys with the scamming idea have seen a school yard before in their lives :-) you should know that you earn more with a happy customer than with a one time scam.
If we would talk about one kg of mdma, then okay I would trust you, that somebody would rip you off for that but for one, two or even 5g of MDMA NO WAY!!!!!! :-D That's just silly
We sellers here on SR are not the typical street dealer, I have a job, a wife, two children. I went to school finished my master degree two years ago and I am not a poor man and so I absolutely don't get why I should scam somebody. This here is a project to give people the opportunity to buy or share drugs without getting into a criminal scene and you all (the people with the scaming idea) behave like you are still in this scene. BUT I am not from this scene and so I am really pissed about this hole scamming blaming. Honest people don't do that
third:
The speed... I will explain everything. I tried the speed and I liked it very much (and I still do), this is why I wrote the text on my page but I had 4 or 5 customer who complained about the quality. I immediately took the product of the side, because I don't want to sell stuff that might be not the quality that I advertised. I have many customers who loved the stuff and wanted more, so I decided to bring the stuff to the lab and get it tested before selling it, because I want only the best quality for my customers. I will upload the results of the test and TO ALL PEOPLE WHO ORDERED MY 80% AMPHETAMINE, please don't be scared of getting ripped off, I never did this and will never do. If it will turn out that the batch isn't quality I will refund any customer who had complaints about the product!! Your money is not gone, like I said, I am here on SR to build longtime relationships not for a little money in my pocket... The test result can take about 10 days..
I hope you understand my situation and that I had to write this. To all my regular customers thank you for being so honest and your trust through the last 6 months..
Regards
Juergen2001
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We sellers here on SR are not the typical street dealer, I have a job, a wife, two children. I went to school finished my master degree two years ago and I am not a poor man and so I absolutely don't get why I should scam somebody. This here is a project to give people the opportunity to buy or share drugs without getting into a criminal scene
Seriously, that's dope.
If it's not too personal, do you sell drugs for a living or is it just your hobby?
Anyways, mach weiter wie bisher :D
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Your speed is no way 80% . It wont even be 20%. When the results are out please post here too. Or someone just post. If it was indeed 80% that means 60mg of your shit snorted would be overwhelming for most guys here. 30 would be nice.
As i stated i tried yours and it seemed to me the worst from a total of 6 different speed i have tried from here. But i have to say, that i tested it yesterday with ez-test. Marquis indeed went brown,simons nothing and Robadopes indeed went just a bit pink/red, a slightly but observable change. So for those that say it is only caffeine i believe it isnt.
But the thing is that 90% of the stuff is caffeine and less than 5% is amphetamine.
also, i would like to say i also tested DrAmsterdams speed with ez test. Marquis brown. Simons nothing. And robadopes, it was the first i saw turning so red. I mean i havent seen robadopes turning so red again. Well this made me thinking that he may have added something to make this change in color. but anyway it seemed good speed. and no money for lab test.
P.S. i am not one of those asking for refund. i am just stating what i have saw
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AAKoven: 4% amph, 65% caf and traces of junk(fentil something, have wrinten it down somewhere.... according to the testservice its a ingredient of making speed)
Blaatz0r: 51% amph, 30% caf, so far the best experience i got. Long euphoria and doesnt smell as bad as the others
DopeyDwarf: no test results back, also not sampled myself yet.
Juergen2001: no test results back, but the feeling i got from it its nowhere near 80(more like 10-15)
DRamsterdam/Der Speed Doktor: no small packs up for sale so not tested this guys.
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AAKoven: 4% amph, 65% caf and traces of junk(fentil something, have wrinten it down somewhere.... according to the testservice its a ingredient of making speed)
Blaatz0r: 51% amph, 30% caf, so far the best experience i got. Long euphoria and doesnt smell as bad as the others
DopeyDwarf: no test results back, also not sampled myself yet.
Juergen2001: no test results back, but the feeling i got from it its nowhere near 80(more like 10-15)
DRamsterdam/Der Speed Doktor: no small packs up for sale so not tested this guys.
Pictures, or it didn't happen :)
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What kinda pictures you want? the testservice i use (VNN @ the netherlands) dont give out papers and such. Its totally anonymous and you get the results by calling them.
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What kinda pictures you want? the testservice i use (VNN @ the netherlands) dont give out papers and such. Its totally anonymous and you get the results by calling them.
Scans of the lab produced results would have been handy for verification.
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We have a forum troll.. ;D
!also here aakoven dutch vendor, why no official drugtest percentage on speed?
under diff name... auto6893 , nice name btw... :-*
same post here for the troll..
LOL, let him.i have a troll so what ;) :P
Whois he , ..well he buy 2 gr pep, then it not come , , he is the first in, hol ,that not arrive... |
mebe is mama find it..= :o
then i send him 1 gr for free...
He then told me the pep is good..but..it was under weight..
End then i burn him like i never did to someone else.. ¨ or mebe that rus low life *
the biggest assholes , are the buyers off 2 gr pep...
Never someone who buy 10 gr mdma..are trolling..!!
I enjoy myself with people like him....they are nobody.!!!
If u life in hol..u dont buy 2 gr pep for 2 times the street price here....Donkie
Let him start selling here... welcome......... :-* :-*
AAkoven .. 8)
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What kinda pictures you want? the testservice i use (VNN @ the netherlands) dont give out papers and such. Its totally anonymous and you get the results by calling them.
Scans of the lab produced results would have been handy for verification.
They dont give out papers, and if you call them they usally only give out the result once. The number you can call is 0621557755 (VNN Groningen) and use number 1929 for AAKoven his results (shall update with the other testnumbers when i find the cards with the testnumbers back)
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We have a forum troll.. ;D
!also here aakoven dutch vendor, why no official drugtest percentage on speed?
under diff name... auto6893 , nice name btw... :-*
I'm not auto6893, as you can read this user is only reffering to my feedback. Also i told you it was underweight, and of mid quality....
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Newbie Q:
I realize this is a newbie question but why is GOOD speed so hard to acquire? I am stateside now and to tell you guys the truth Speed is just not here. Its coffee or meth, no in between. (not quite this bad but making a point.)
I am only guessing that production of really good, and by that I mean anything over 30%, speed is a super complex or super expensive process? At first I thought Americans were just lazy and they knew how to make meth so they just stick with it. Truth is they aint lazy and love drugs like the rest of us and in fact when I have shared my European speed they fucking cream their Levis for it. The problem here is speed is just not out there and no one knows how to fucking do it.
What is Noah to do? I order on here. First order last fall I get great product from Street Pharmacy. He turns over to Der Speed Dok who also has great stuff but not always available. Everything else is a crapshoot as to weather it will be good shit, bad shit, or even shit at all. "Why Why Why Why?!" is the question I ask. I know there is a strong market for it but I am guessing it must take a PHD in Chem to really cook up the good stuff. Anyone?
Noah
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So, here's a question to the amphetamine vendors out there - would it be possible for you to wash your product before sale? Somewhat like Tetravort is doing with his cola product. If done properly, this would be a product everyone on here would be grateful for.
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So, here's a question to the amphetamine vendors out there - would it be possible for you to wash your product before sale? Somewhat like Tetravort is doing with his cola product. If done properly, this would be a product everyone on here would be grateful for.
i agree, and i think it makes sense for vendors to do so, because, less product weight is easy for transportation, high price per unit is more income per a unit, well it should be.
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Fucking this. Wash your god damned speed, sell indeed something that is more than 30% and i will pay 5x the price.
And come on guys, dont bullshitting us. You may say you have family, you may say you are doing bussiness for decades or that others here are trolling you but one thing is sure. You either saying bullshit to sell crap speed or you know nothing about speed. You cant say you have 80% amphetamine. You cant say your speed is super awesome when you need 300mg snorted to just feel it....come on. a dahm 10mg adderall is way better thatn your 300mg speed.
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i tried amphe from dramsterdam, blaatz0r and aakoven. blaatz0r's speed was by far the best! good quality speed!!! dramsterdams amphetamine was acceptable, but his speed has a VERY intense smell - too intense for me.. aakovens is poor quality, has a strange smell?!
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Blaatz0r's speed must be INSANE. Tried DrAmsterdam's and found it to be fucking awesome, currently on aakoven's which I have no complaints about, but the Doc's is better.
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Just to put my opinion into the mix, I have found AAkoven to be an excellent seller, and his latest batch is even better than usual. Amazingly quick delivery to UK, good packaging, can't really fault him. Speeds strongest I've ever had too. I hear good things about Blaatz0r's speed as well though, he's next on the list to try.
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hello, boy & girls. :)
Wen i go to MY dealer end ask for good speed , i tell him , I need really good stuff ".
With other things its easy.. `U get good stuff.!
With pep, i dont know, but this market is :o .
MY last batch is ok, many people liked it ..its finest today., Now i have a new contact as i want the best pep for SR.
This is more paste..it smell so strong end this is, even better then the last batch , trust me on this.
AAkoven is going to do every thing what in his power to have good pep :P the best.
AA 8)
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AAKoven: Please know your product. Strong smell is due to the Leuckhart method of preparing speed & some remains of BMK in it. The best (smell wise) you can have is freshly harvested normal shrooms.
Currently the dutch market is so deluted that its allmost impossible to get above 20%.
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Just ordered AAkovens new batch will update on quality when it arrives.When i get more bit coins will order from DopeyDwarf to check out his speed.
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I found Blaatzor speed to be good but little to sweet flavor and a lot of white non draining cut. It was bit annoying but the wetter of the two grams was much better. The weight is where I find issue. although it is wet and some volatility is expected losses of 25% in weight in a sealed package seems a bit much. The strength was decent though. I have not yet received my first order from Dopey and Imprint never delivered and it has been three weeks now. He claims an unusually long vacation but the rush to pay should have set off the warning bells. Ahh live and learn on SR.
Hilly
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Hi everybody,
I just wanted to post my (poor) 2 cents about aakoven.
But first, to put things in context, this was my very first time trying amphetamine (if you exclude what you eventually get in some X pills) so I will not be able to compare it to anything else or be very "knowledgeable" about it.
Anyways, what I can say is that aakoven was really helpful from the start and that his product (I ordered it/got it about 2 weeks ago, so I will let you decide what batch it was) is definitely potent (for lack of other words) and I had quite a fun and loooong night using it. :-)
I had to take more that what he had advised, but I guess it is due to me taking it orally instead of snorting (which I had read somewhere on these forums that it is "better"/smoother experience), plus the fact that I unfortunately usually have quite a high tolerance to drugs. He had advised 50 to 70mg and see from there, but in the end I had to take 100mg to feel it. Then during the course of the night I took 2 bumps of 50mg and it got me to 10 am without problems :-P
To conclude, I would surely order from him again :-)
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hi, for this week i´m waiting spd from AAk, i´ve used speed for 10 years and i know well whats good quality for that. i will reply here when i receive the bag, sent on monday. can´t wait more to taste it xD.
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I let some lokal party people test AAs new batch this WE. Will report back. They are no chemists (though one studies it, lol) but they know the electro-musik/party scene really well and long. And know the flowing speed there.
Lets see how it competes.
Havnt tried my self and dont know if I will do in the next weeks. But from smell and taste it looks good. I fact I have to seal it, to get the smell away.
take care
no_pain
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Newbie Q:
I realize this is a newbie question but why is GOOD speed so hard to acquire? I am stateside now and to tell you guys the truth Speed is just not here. Its coffee or meth, no in between. (not quite this bad but making a point.)
I am only guessing that production of really good, and by that I mean anything over 30%, speed is a super complex or super expensive process? At first I thought Americans were just lazy and they knew how to make meth so they just stick with it. Truth is they aint lazy and love drugs like the rest of us and in fact when I have shared my European speed they fucking cream their Levis for it. The problem here is speed is just not out there and no one knows how to fucking do it.
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The fact of the matter is that the yield is not necessarily related to the final purity.
Some basic chemistry;
The yield is the amount of reagent that is converted to the final product (speed) regardless of anything else in the sample, whereas the purity is the amount of it in the sample regardless of how much reagent was started with.
Say for instance there's a clump of powder, but it's only ~10% pure.
Just washing it/filtering it with basic solvents like acetone, water, ethanol, ether etc... could remove any contaminants, left over reagents and unreactive materials, bumping up the purity.
An acid/base extraction could cut out most byproducts too, and a pH specific extraction would push the purity up even higher.
With fractional separation (boiling at specific temperatures and collecting/cooling the vapor), it's pretty much 90%+ pure.
If performed with clean equipment, and... in the right order, a purity of 99.5% could be very possible.
Besides, the first two things can be done in the kitchen, with legal, easily available items from your local supermarket and hardware store ;), so it's very possible for the user to turn their low purity powder into near-pure amphetamine (albeit, as a much smaller quantity) . It does take time and effort though, and it may not be very cost-effective.
In reality, those steps are almost necessary during the synthesis (it depends on the actual synthesis though), and a fairly pure product with a decent yield is made (both well above 30%).
Almost all of the extra "ingredients" in the powder that makes it onto the street are added after the product is made.
Greed plays a major part in that :'(, laziness is definitely there too (in Australia a lot of the "speed" is highly diluted methamphetamine; suppliers get two markets for the price of one).
That being said, it seems like vendors here are mostly selling their product as-is (I very much doubt that any of them are cutting their speed, especially considering the supreme quality of their other products).
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Anyway, to stay on topic, I recently received and tested AAkoven's new batch.
It arrived relatively quickly. Weight was accurate. And it's worth mentioning that AAkoven was VERY fast to respond and ship the product.
Marquis reagent turned the expected orange.
It was a bit wet and fairly caustic to begin with (some solvent remaining), but that evaporated within minutes.
I washed it with acetone using laboratory-grade filter paper, and this cut down the weight to 67.5% (32.5% was removed, most of which I suspect was caffeine).
What was left over, after drying, was some INCREDIBLY sexy, snow white, fluorescent speed :D. It was also very solid, much drier and no longer pasty in any way.
Analysis with ultraviolet (UV) light further confirmed the presence of amphetamine at a decent purity (above ~10%, anything lower would have only shown 'glowing' specks, or no response at all). However it also showed that a lot of powder was adulterants.
I tested out around 100mg of the washed powder (equal to ~148mg of what was received) and it definitely gave me a kick and managed to keep me up for hours upon hours 8). It's hard to judge without GC-MS, so I'll say that point felt like 25mg to 45mg amphetamine (16-30%).
Still, it was definitely worth the meager price it cost, and I would order again.
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thanks PlusPlus for your in depth analysis. I made my first order with aakoven and will post my review when i get it but it sounds like his stuff will be fine. i don't like that it's cut with caffeine since i stay away from that dangerous stimulant (wink) but if you have an easy way for us non-chemists to clean up our product a bit or could refer us to link with some steps that would be great. maybe we can start a different thread on this topic.
btw aakoven was by far the nicest and quickest vendor i have ever dealt with...
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Ordered some speed from aakoven.
Fast delivery!
Good packaging.
When opened I got a nice smell.
After drying it is pretty good stuff :)
Thank you
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nice comment plus plus. I would be thankful if you could post your way of cleaning speed just with aceton.
also i will try again AAkovens speed as soon as i have some more BTCs. Previous time was okay but not something extraordinary. But it was months ago.
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Heh, well thank you. I didn't think most people read my posts all the way through, they tend to be a bit... expansive (tl;dr). ;)
@ workforit69: An acetone wash would probably be one of the easiest ways to clean your product. And more importantly, it's something that can be done by anybody because the equipment is cheap, inconspicuous and very easily available. :)
+@ Mitsikeli: I'll put up a general guide here :).
****************** WASHING YOUR SPEED WITH ACETONE ******************
Speed (amphetamine sulphate) is insoluble in acetone. However, a lot of common adulterants/cutters are quite soluble in acetone, such as caffeine (At around 1g/20mL, if anybody has a specific value for this then please add it in :) ). Because of this we can clean that mess of a powder into something much purer and probably less toxic! 8)
What you need:
• Acetone. This can be found at your local hardware store as a cleaning agent, and sometimes the supermarket (Australians, check the IGA ;)). Make sure it's dry (ie. no water present) [If not, see notes below*].
WARNING: Acetone is flammable. It's also pretty toxic and volatile (B.P of 56.2°C), if you inhale too much or ingest some and start feeling somewhat intoxicated, that means something bad is about to happen to your organs but you may be too unconscious to notice. It also has a habit of removing some paints, dyes and varnish. So use it over a sink/tissue paper/outside and in a well ventilated area.
• Funnel. Plastic funnel is fine, glass is better.
• Cups. Anything ceramic, plastic or glass (or beakers, test tubes etc...). As long as the funnel fits in it and there's enough space for the volume of acetone you're using.
• Filters. Coffee filters are fine, filter paper is best. Empty porous tea-bags work. Tissue paper even works.
What to do:
• Crush up the "speed" into a fine powder and put it into a clean glass (CUP-1).
• Pour in some acetone. Anything around 20mL per gram is fine. [I usually use 30-50mL for the first gram and add 10-30mL for every gram after that, depending on the suspected purity]. Keep in mind that you may be using more acetone to rinse out the glass/re-wash the residue in the filter later. But speed has a solubility BELOW 0.1mg/1mL in 100% acetone, so the loss isn't monumental.
• Stir or mix up the "speed" in the acetone until it's cloudy. Use something non-metal if stirring.
[NOTE: I usually just add the "speed" directly into the filter, seal the glass under the funnel, with the funnel, so nothing can pass through at the time, add the acetone and stir it with a glass stirring rod, then unseal it. If you're confident with doing that and are sure the filter won't break then you can omit CUP-1].
• Add the filter to the funnel, and the funnel onto another glass (CUP-2). Make sure there are no gaps in the filter.
• Put a gap, with something, between the funnel and glass to allow air out of the glass. If the funnel completely seals the glass then eventually the filtration will just stop. [I wedge a plastic straw between them].
• Pour some acetone into the funnel so the filter sticks to it.
• Pour the contents of CUP-1 (best if they're still cloudy) into the filter!
OR Seal the gap between the glass and funnel and add in the powdered speed and acetone straight into the filter as you would in CUP-1 (as explained in the note). Unseal it after stirring/mixing and let it filter. Obviously, make sure everything is running through the filter and not around it. [I press a glass rod up to the acetone bottle, and aim the end into the filter. This stops anything from spilling].
• After filtering, the liquid in the glass (filtrate) should be clear (and maybe colored if the speed was originally colored).
If it's cloudy then some of the solution (and probably some amphetamine) may have passed around the filter, or the filter is ripped. In that case it's best to place another filter underneath the current one (especially if there's still powder on it), pour CUP-2 back into CUP-1 (or a new glass if omitted), and run it through again.
• Rinse out CUP-1 with some more acetone and pour that into the residue/filter, you can also wash the residue again by running more acetone through it. Washing it again isn't entirely necessary, and 3 times is usually enough even at a laboratory-grade level.
• Now you have your purified, but wet, powder still on the filter (the residue), and the cutters/dyes/solvents in the acetone in CUP-2 (if it's clear then you can pour that down the sink ;)).
• If you're using filter paper, coffee filters or anything that won't stick to the wet powder then you can pull out the filter (as long as it has ALL of the residue on it), place it on some tissue paper (if it's wet with acetone) and let the powder dry out in a ventilated area. It typically doesn't take long to dry. Heat is not necessary but a slow fan helps.
If you're using tissue paper as the filter it's best to scrape the wet powder off and place it onto some flat glassware or ceramic dish (anything you can move it off easily once it dries), and let it dry there.
• DONE! Enjoy your cleaner speed. If you're very lucky and all of the adulterants were acetone-soluble (and were removed), enjoy your near-pure amphetamine :D.
Some added notes:
› This method can be used to clean Ice (methamphetamine hydrochloride) too. :P
› Speed is insoluble in diethyl ether, so this can be done with diethyl ether as well, if it's available, to remove even more adulterants. Ether has a B.P of 34.6°C so it evaporates even faster. It's also a lot less toxic than acetone.
› *Dry acetone: Usually the store brand is 100% acetone, and hence not likely to be contaminated by water.
However, if there is any water in the acetone then the solubility of amphetamine becomes higher, so there's a greater loss (but it can also remove more adulterants). [Personally I wouldn't consider it an issue unless it's labelled as "Aqueous Acetone" or the bottle was left open in the rain etc...].
A simple solution for making dry acetone is magnesium sulphate, or a similar desiccant. Just pick up some "Epsom salts" (which are clear/translucent granules of magnesium sulphate heptahydrate: MgSO4.7H2O) from your local pharmacy. Pick out approximately 2g for every 10mL of acetone, heat it up in the oven/on a hot plate/on a spoon with a lighter. It will appear to bubble/sizzle and turn into an opaque white, amorphous and brittle solid (this is your anhydrous magnesium sulphate). Then just add it into the "wet" acetone. [Best to read more on this if necessary, I've never had to use it for acetone, only used it as a desiccant for storage].
(TL;DR?) If that was too comprehensive, this is a concise walkthrough:
» Crush up the speed into a cup. Add in some acetone. Swirl it around.
» Put a coffee filter into a plastic funnel. Put the funnel into another cup. Wedge a gap between the funnel and cup with a straw.
» Pour the speed (in acetone) into the filter. Let it filter and run some more acetone through the powder.
» Let the powder (left over in the filter) dry off completely. Scrape it up and enjoy your washed speed!
Anyway. Hope that helps out some people, and I always encourage people to purify anything they're putting into their bodies as much as they can.
If anybody has specific solubilities for amphetamine (or any common adulterants) then please post them up, and I might add in some common adulterants with their concentrations (from a few research articles).
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i tried amphe from dramsterdam, blaatz0r and aakoven. blaatz0r's speed was by far the best! good quality speed!!! dramsterdams amphetamine was acceptable, but his speed has a VERY intense smell - too intense for me.. aakovens is poor quality, has a strange smell?!
I would like to add to your review.
Over the past 2 months, I have tried:
- dramsterdam,
- aakoven,
- der speed dr,
- juergen
and have to agree that aakovens is poor quality and had a bad smell, but so did der speed dr and juergen, theirs was really no better.
dramsterdams was the best by far but, still has a way to go, come on guys, where is the speed from the old days? Surely one of these dealers or someone else can source their speed from cooks who use Pseudoephidrine..... and not these so called salts (what ever they are) which everyone is talking about.
Most people who buy on SR are pretty savvy and well educated on their drugs and know when a product is not good. Please stop selling this talked up crap that the speed is good on SR. You are not fooling anyone!
I put the challenge out there to any seller that can sell great speed SR.
There is a huge market gap and opportunity here on SR.
Might have to try blaatz0r's speed, I am running out of options here on SR, might have to step up to "ICE" LOL LOL LOL...
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Just consume orally. Only experience is pharm amphetamine. After letting it air out for a day or so, sampled AA's recent batch and I like the feeling. Consumed 50mg to test, with feeling more alert/awake. 1 hour later another 50mg. My feeling is 15mg of Adderall is equal to ~100mg of AA's pep....still a great deal. A friend consumed 200mg over 3-4 hours and seemed pretty high and "loved it."
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@lord_b seems interesting you have appeared again for NO good reason??? What was the point of your post Dickhead???
I am calling you out as a Vendor!
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HI there,
first: I have to say, that this is my first post in this forum. Normally I think that a forum is for the customers to share information about products and sellers and not for me as a seller to make advertising or anything else like other sellers do here on the forum.
But since I read the article about some buyers here, I have to take position and I hope you understand that.
I seriously don't understand the guys here, especially this DR... I send him my normal MDMA, like always. It is lab tested pure and uncut. Of course it looks like different colors if you crush the crystals really good. He tells me all the time that he want's a refund but I simply don't get for what. He ordered MDMA and got the MDMA and now he wants money back. Honestly who would do that? I can tell you DR you won't get a single cent. I work with SR very close and I get always what I want, because they know that I am here to make people happy and not to hurt somebody.
second:
why the hell do people still think I am a scamer? What is wrong with you guys? I have more than 2000 successful shipments and you really think I want to loose costumers only to get 100$ extra?!?!?? This selective scaming thing is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. I talk to other sellers here on SR a lot and they always tell me the same, that some buyers take advantage of the escrow to rip people off.
For the seller it is totally stupid to scam anybody, this is why you can count on that none of the top 5 seller is a scamer. even selective scamming is absolutely unnecessary! If you understand only a little from business on the internet (I hope the guys with the scamming idea have seen a school yard before in their lives :-) you should know that you earn more with a happy customer than with a one time scam.
If we would talk about one kg of mdma, then okay I would trust you, that somebody would rip you off for that but for one, two or even 5g of MDMA NO WAY!!!!!! :-D That's just silly
We sellers here on SR are not the typical street dealer, I have a job, a wife, two children. I went to school finished my master degree two years ago and I am not a poor man and so I absolutely don't get why I should scam somebody. This here is a project to give people the opportunity to buy or share drugs without getting into a criminal scene and you all (the people with the scaming idea) behave like you are still in this scene. BUT I am not from this scene and so I am really pissed about this hole scamming blaming. Honest people don't do that
third:
The speed... I will explain everything. I tried the speed and I liked it very much (and I still do), this is why I wrote the text on my page but I had 4 or 5 customer who complained about the quality. I immediately took the product of the side, because I don't want to sell stuff that might be not the quality that I advertised. I have many customers who loved the stuff and wanted more, so I decided to bring the stuff to the lab and get it tested before selling it, because I want only the best quality for my customers. I will upload the results of the test and TO ALL PEOPLE WHO ORDERED MY 80% AMPHETAMINE, please don't be scared of getting ripped off, I never did this and will never do. If it will turn out that the batch isn't quality I will refund any customer who had complaints about the product!! Your money is not gone, like I said, I am here on SR to build longtime relationships not for a little money in my pocket... The test result can take about 10 days..
I hope you understand my situation and that I had to write this. To all my regular customers thank you for being so honest and your trust through the last 6 months..
Regards
Juergen2001
Thanks Juergen2001 for being so honest with your post, it is very pleasing to see sellers explaining their views on these forums, however, with my up most respect , you may need to look at changing your lab where you get your speed tested, because it is nowhere near 80% pure.
I have been recreationaly been using speed for over 15 years and can say with absolute honesty that the speed I have tried on SR (and not just yours) is no where up to standard as what it could/should be.
Just a thought bubble, is there any way you can find a cook who makes their speed from Pseudoephidrine, because I dont think the salts work as good.
I have full respect to you for being a seller on SR and do not take it for granted, and I hope this issue can be worked out on SR
Thanks.
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@lord_b seems interesting you have appeared again for NO good reason??? What was the point of your post Dickhead???
I am calling you out as a Vendor!
Hello again hoffa, I was wondering when you might pop up again.
Yawn Yawn Yawn!!!
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Heh, well thank you. I didn't think most people read my posts all the way through, they tend to be a bit... expansive (tl;dr). ;)
Are you kidding? The first time I read a post by you, I opened up your profile and went through all of your posts in the hopes of finding more well written and thorough gems. The forums need more people like you. Keep up the good work! ;)
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PlusPlus +1000!
Many thanks man :)
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Hi,
Going to order a few gr`s of speed this week.I see a couple of vendors have new listings up so will give them a try and report back.Think i will order from dmtdoodeelsd and also dramsterdam his new stuff 60%.
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first off let me start by saying aakoven has been the friendliest and quickest vendor i've ever dealt with. he was also upfront about the quality of his product and repeatedly told me it was not like the stuff us older users or those with a good hookups used to get and that he was working his best to find a better product. his honesty sealed the deal for me and for the meager price it was well worth giving it a try.
i got the product faster than i do from vendors withing the US i order form ( i live in the states ). i had already bought my supplies to wash the product (thanks PlusPlus' for the great in depth post!) and proceeded to do so. I lost about 30% in the cleaning and dried out what was left overnight in an empty vitamin bottle with the desiccant still in it. i started with a low dose of around 50mg and let my system deal with it and then when i didn't get much from that i did another 50mg. An hour later i tried another 100mg and this time i got something but it just wasn't what i was after. This speed is very typical of street stuff I used to encounter when i first got to germany and for the casual/first time users it will suffice but i was spoiled rotten with nearly pure speed and i'm afraid i won't be ordering again until someone is able to get their hands on something a lot better.
I wish aakoven's the best on his journey to source better product and again this in no way speaks badly on him. He was honest about his product form the beginning and he's ok in my book. Was worth a try but for now I am going to stick to meth and will be checking this thread and sr for someone to pop up with something better. Until then I look forward to all of your reviews , especially PlusPlus' because well you know he has science behind his :)
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as workforit69 says this is the problem with speed. everyone has just the street speed and actually the bad one.
btw i tried dopeyworfs who send very very fast. it wasnt the best actually.
and then i tried hashuks which was better. I liked it and i had a clean feeling like it wasnt cut with caffeine or something else psycoactive. i would put it in the 10-15% range
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Also, Juergen has a listing of medical grade amphetamine phosphate. I would sure pay the price of it although a bit expensive but i woulnt do it since i didnt like his previous speed. So anyone has ordered to test?
btw 0.1gram samples would sure help ;)
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Anyone received fom this guy? I hope his product is more authentic than his feedback!
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what would th dose be with the amphet. phosphate? Say compared to 30mg of adderall
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what would th dose be with the amphet. phosphate? Say compared to 30mg of adderall
30mg Amphetamine HCl = 40 mg Amphetamine phosphate
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fyi, the doktor is back with nice listings
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/65277
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fyi, the doktor is back with nice listings
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/65277
may i correct you street ;) url is: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/65277
update to new SR url ^^
anyway glad he's back, already ordered ! will keep you post about new stuff, quality and shit.
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fyi, the doktor is back with nice listings
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/65277
may i correct you street ;) url is: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/65277
update to new SR url ^^
anyway glad he's back, already ordered ! will keep you post about new stuff, quality and shit.
lol, how could I miss that :) thanks for posting the right url
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hey, just received 5g of Der Speed Doktor's new gear, looks pretty much like his latest batch, smells strong chemical. It comes pasty but not real moist, i put about 0,3 out of bag on a mirror and chopped a bit, after 1 min it was ready to rail.
Just did my 2nd line and feels really good. will update this review when i am done binging here ;)
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dont order speed from AAKOVEN.
its cheap, so i gave it a try, but it doesnt do anything at all , and i did about 1 gram..
dont know about his other stuff, but ill def. not order from him again, its pure trash.
after i sent him a message, he just told me he will have beter stuff later,
and if i order he´ll give me 1/2 gram extra... wtf?! you serious ?... i already paid for 10g of bullshit...
peace
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I have received speed from AAkoven ... I've never had anything like shit...bad quality,and stinks ...
you know if there is a way to eliminate this awful stench? I'm planning to cook with water, and perhaps a bit of smell evaporates away...you have any ideas? recommendations? with that smell of shit , I just can not pull them in >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Ive been speeding all afternoon on aakovens stuff, i dont find it that weak, not as good as hashuks but its passable.
It does stink, so much that it should have been vacuum sealed, like all smelly drugs sold here.
Also when left out to dry it goes hard and doesn't crush up into powder, it stays solid.
Why are you complaining on the supposed low quality anyway? what you expect 80% pure shit for that price?
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Non mi aspettavo l '80%, ma le sue ultime parole furono un messaggio:
"" u will love ti this is really good stuff ""
could say, the stuff is low quality, But did not say...
However, I do not want any controversy, because AAkoven it is a good salesman, I have made many purchases by him, but this time was not correct with me, but we have already clarified....
I just want to know if there is a way to lift away the bad smell
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Hi,
I tried quite a few speed vendors on SR and for what its worth i think the latest batch from the speed Doktor is the best i have had for the price. It gives a good clean high with a bit of euphoria aswell which i dont get with the dutch speed i usually order.Jurgens speed which is a bit pricey is also good but in my opinion no better than the speed Doktors.I will order some of Dr Amsterdams ultra high quality speed this week to give it a try, just hoping its not as bad tasting as his normal speed which i find really difficult to even swallow its that nasty to taste :o
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Number 1. Blaatz0r
Really, really, really like his speed...
Great euphoric feeling!! That's what i like..
He's my number 1 vendor from now on
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hey guys
I was planning on ordering some speed in the next couple days for the first time. I was strongly considering "Der Speed Doktor" but it seems like he doesn't have any listings at the moment. What other current vendors can you guys recommend me?
It seems like DrAmsterdam would be a good choice. I would prefer Vendors within the Euro zone. Any ideas?
Thanks!!
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DubG
Very professional delivery!
I'm not an expert but crystals were clear.
Product was strong and had nice euphoria along with great all around "wanna go do some shit!" (sculpture,music, hike)
The only issue I have had is serious nausea....with insufflation it began after second line.....a big one.
Nauseated all night.
Took up tinfoil and seems to work really well.
Cheers!
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Number 1. Blaatz0r
Really, really, really like his speed...
Great euphoric feeling!! That's what i like..
He's my number 1 vendor from now on
You are not the first person to mention this , others have said the same. Well at least i hope it's really "others" :) In all my experience though i've never had good paste and it was always that type that was cut with crap that would not agree with me a lot of the times. I will order a bit when my meth runs out and if his listing is still up.
How long does it take to get speed tested? I still would be interested in buying jeurgens stuff that he says is 80% that he sent out for testing. I am not familiar with the process over there at all though. 25$ a gram in dollars is not such a bad price all considering and if it's that pure you won't need to use as much. The super high grade stuff my friend got from a german lab was as pure as you can get and you didn't need much at all to keep you gong for days. We used to take "meth" bumps with it - maybe 20-40mg. I still got it for 10euros a gram though but had to buy 10 at a time but that would last me a few months.
Gotta say i'm happy SR has great meth vendors at least... Look forward to more reviews. Everyone needs to keep complaining if the product is not good so the vendors will adapt to the marketplace.
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OK, first up I am NOT giving PLUS or MINUS points to any seller in particular
I've tried many of the more popular guys, but not all of them and i've tried
a couple of the lesser knowns too... I have had mixed results.
Quality can vary a huge amount, even with the same seller of the same batch.
Powders and pastes can be hard to mix, they have different particle sizes,
stick to eachother in different ways, things can vibrate and settle in transport,
different batches can be mixed together at lab level, there are 1,000,001
reasons why quality can vary so much
what DOES seem to be constant though, is the stuff coming out of europe is
often FAR from clean
you know if there is a way to eliminate this awful stench?
smells strong chemical
pure trash.... i already paid for 10g of bullshit...
It does stink, so much that it.......
which i find really difficult to even swallow its that nasty to taste
Acetone wash for a start, search some forums, it is a fairly easy process.
There are more advanced techniques can be read about, but acetone cleans up a lot of the garbage
A BIG shout out to PLUSPLUS for posting instructions on performing a basic acetone wash.
****************** WASHING YOUR SPEED WITH ACETONE ******************
IV guys in my area have been doing similar things forever, and it's worth it.
And for curiosity, don't just tip out your acetone if you do a wash -
Let it dry and have a look at the crap you just removed!
my humble opinion would be to buy big quantities of the cheap stuff from the more reliable people here, and wash/purify/recrystallize to your preference...
cheers
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Number 1. Blaatz0r
Really, really, really like his speed...
Great euphoric feeling!! That's what i like..
He's my number 1 vendor from now on
You are not the first person to mention this , others have said the same. Well at least i hope it's really "others" :) In all my experience though i've never had good paste and it was always that type that was cut with crap that would not agree with me a lot of the times. I will order a bit when my meth runs out and if his listing is still up.
They ask for the buyers review, I hope it's also really "others" so the reviews are more trustworthy.
In my opinion it is good stuff. I have always had the cutted stuff, but that's where you pay for I guess?
Every person is unique so everybody will have an other experience on what he/she is taking. The one will like it very much but the other will hate it. That's their experience.
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I have now 70 % pure pep... ;) hell yeah.!
And for a price that must be liked.
AAkoven have always top quality products ,the first week the price is low so for every body its affordable .!!
take care..speed freaks. :o :o
AA 8)
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hi guys, does anyone know the procedure for washing the speed with acetone?
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Which one is better:
-aakoven "NEW batch 14-2 THIS IS LAB TESTED 70 %" ($13,63 a gram)
-DRamsterdam "1 G of ultra quality speed 60% pure lab tested" ($38,31 a gram)
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Hello all,
I was never actually very involved with posting in this forum. Being a amphetamine user for 20 years straight (yeah call me an old timer :) ) i just want to let ya know that good quality speed has finally arrived on SR. Several vendors were tried in the last months, most of them being having cut product i would not even dare to sell. But something changed for the better. First change was the 60% speed of dr Amterdam (good speed, price if compared to 15 years ago high). Along that time i always had very good contact with aakoven. I love this guy because he is fast, friendly,trustable and always open to discuss some personal life things. But one thing sucked every time, his speed.... i gave him every time feedback and advice. Guess what happened...... I confirm, not shitting, all ya old schooled users.... for the moment he has the speed you all have been dreaming of, i mean it is so f* close to the stuff i bought 20 years ago. 100% soluble in water and stays that way, means no crap inside (i hate caffeine mixed in speed, i HATE it).... so snorting,bombing, iv ing ... order and enjoy at a very reasonable price..... my 2 cents! AA go for your dream man! Please share your experience :) :) :)
T.
To answer the question on previous post..... they have both good speed... taking the price in account the answer is clear :)é
Remember ..... speed does not kill you, it is the lack of sleep :) 8)
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i bought from almost every speed/amphetamine vendor on SR / i'm looking forward for aakoven's new stuff and will report back!
sounds to good to be true BUT he is a stand up guy!
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i bought from almost every speed/amphetamine vendor on SR / i'm looking forward for aakoven's new stuff and will report back!
sounds to good to be true BUT he is a stand up guy!
who in your opinion has currently the best stuff? (leaving aakoven out)
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I have now 70 % pure pep... ;) hell yeah.!
And for a price that must be liked.
AAkoven have always top quality products ,the first week the price is low so for every body its affordable .!!
take care..speed freaks. :o :o
AA 8)
This man has the best speed around here at the moment! Bought mutliple grams from him for a period of 2 months and i must say the stuff he has now is unrivalled and for a great price! My advice get your stuff from AA to get AA goodies 8)
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hi guys, does anyone know the procedure for washing the speed with acetone?
Washing it is easy... Crush it up, rinse with DRY acetone. Filter or decant. Keep the filtrate (meth) and discard the acetone. The meth will not dissolve in the acetone, many cuts and impurities will. DRY acetone ONLY. ONLY DRY ACETONE.
You MUST USE DRY ACETONE. Any water in the acetone will dissolve your meth.HCl. Even a few mils is enough. DRY IT FIRST, unless you are using anhydrous from a chemical supply place. Acetone from the hardware store is fine as long as you dry it first.
Dry the acetone by baking epsom salts in the oven a few hours at about 400F. The epsom salts will form a hard brick. Take them out, and powder up at least 10 grams worth, and add it to your container of acetone (hardware store brand is fine. Don't use nail polish remover). Shake for a minute or two and let it to settle. The epsom salts will absorb any water in the acetone. Draw the acetone up from the top without disturbing the bottom layer of epsom salt/water.
Dual solvent recrystallization, will really clean it up, but is a bit more difficult.
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I've not used speed for ages, but now I've got a friend which is completely mad 'bout needle stuff. Previously there was a possibility to have a really good powder. but years pass and so do dealers. Guys&girls, give me a recommendation which one's will go perfectly for his first time? I just want him to understand those 15 sec at the start. ;D
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this must happen in Europe actually...
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Someone some real feedback on the 80% Amph from Jurgen. 80% in solid form is just not possible, second some people like it , others don't, anyone found the lab results concerning purity. I can not state this enough, sellers selling dope, if serious should always have a test og their product. If you are for what you sell, that could not be a problem. Be informed of what your product is .... like if i see 80% pure, gives already a not so trustable feeling even it was sulphate or hell ya in hcl form, it is just not possible. It can of course but it would be a half base solution which is not easy to handle, this i know for a fact. Despite 80% how is the general feeling (short legged, long legged) Mixed with water should go witout heat and solution would have to be that od crystal clear. Someone more info?
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hi guys, does anyone know the procedure for washing the speed with acetone?
Have a look on page 9, hope it helps. ;)
And +1 to what Thco (^) said.
What's the deal with amphetamine "paste", why do people insist on advertising it, why is it so common in Europe and why would anybody deliberately cut something solid into a less efficient paste?
(Seriously, genuine question).
Freebase amphetamine is a caustic, oily mess. It's not even white.
Amphetamine sulphate is an incredibly solid powder.
In Australia, most 'speed' is really just heavily adulterated methamphetamine hydrochloride. I've seen a few batches sold as "paste" but they were mostly just wet speed, though a few of them were real amphetamine hydrochloride (and as people have pointed out, it's very hygroscopic; meaning it absorbs water readily). The difference being that even if you completely dehydrate/dry amphetamine HCl, it just re-absorbs water when left out in the open again, plus it can be smoked.
And even the amphetamine HCl was a clumpy, wet solid. Not a paste.
My point is, you would have to put in extra effort to turn pure amphetamine into a paste (level the pH at 9.8, the pKa of amphetamine, for those who speak science ;)).
It seems sort of wasteful to cut it deliberately into a paste just because it advertises well in some countries.
Anyway I know that the vendors here usually don't have much involvement in the actual synthesis, so this is me just voicing my opinion until the next order arrives. ::)
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+1 PlusPlus
I have asked myself the same question. Usual method is making sulfate salt as its pain in the ass to convert freebase to hcl salt.
And that amph paste what is usal sold in europe is wet (I think on purpose they live it semi dry) as its believed that amphetamine must be fresh and that will degrade, they kept it in the fridge and in humid enviroment.
I think and because of that and most of inactive is hygroscopic it became as a paste. If you dry it its like any other dry powder.
Its difficult to explain to people the true when rumors are strong. They will believe whatever.... many people think that paste is base form :o
What to do? How to explain? Nohow.
Myth are powerful thing among ignorance.
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Same answer bonovic, nobody care...
Market will dictate the price, and nothing we can do much about it.
But there is other people do care and who want to learn. They will use that knowledge not to became victims of myth and save a lot of cash.
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Someone some real feedback on the 80% Amph from Jurgen. 80% in solid form is just not possible, second some people like it , others don't, anyone found the lab results concerning purity. I can not state this enough, sellers selling dope, if serious should always have a test og their product. If you are for what you sell, that could not be a problem. Be informed of what your product is .... like if i see 80% pure, gives already a not so trustable feeling even it was sulphate or hell ya in hcl form, it is just not possible. It can of course but it would be a half base solution which is not easy to handle, this i know for a fact. Despite 80% how is the general feeling (short legged, long legged) Mixed with water should go witout heat and solution would have to be that od crystal clear. Someone more info?
Dissolves easily in water at room temperature, solution is indeed crystal clear. Without prior tolerance 80mg (oral) was very effective as a study aid and provided a pleasurable buzz; definitely not 80% but still decent speed.
Market will dictate the price, and nothing we can do much about it.
Exactly and in a normal consumer market it would be corrected because people would refuse to pay those ridiculous prices. Unfortunately on SR there is apparently is a group of buyers who are willing to pay crazy prices and therefor as a result creating a dysfunctional market.
Where I live, the cost of amphetamine on the street is way higher than on SR. Not to mention the availability.
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Only new vendor and competition can lower the price. We should invite more sellers as that with "force" the sellers to lower the prices and offer good quality.
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Hi , folks ..well the price , if only buy 1 , 2 gr must be high , there are cost to ship it,end the time to make it...
End don,t forget the bitc..its a pain in the ass the work with .
if u buy 10, 25 gr...then the price is decent.. :D or more...u can always mail me for a sweet deal. :-*
the stuff i sell now is 72 % uncut...u tell me what u want more..u cant find it on the street not even in Holland if u buy 2-5 -10 gr...
U have a free will Don,t like it...Don,t buy it...
AA 8)
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Thanks for extrapolating, mseller.
And LOL at the whole idea of "fresh speed" degrading, I had no idea people thought that anywhere.
All the amphetamine sulphate here will outlive everybody on SR. 8)
Seriously, it's a phenyl alkane with an amine group. You can't get a more stable alkaloid.
The only reaction I can imagine, if it's out in the open and in sunlight, is the formation of an N-oxide. But seeing as it's a primary amine it'd probably be much too unstable to form at any regular temperature.
Maybe at 48°C in Sub-Saharan Africa...
An N-hydroxy formation seems possible with heat, high humidity, out in the open and in sunlight, but it would be metabolized back into the amine so that makes no difference.
Anybody have any plausible reactions?
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The shipping costs are additional costs so that's not really an argument. I can assure you that for buyers the BTC's are an even greater pain in the ass. The prices are based on the current stock price but you can never buy bitcoins for the stock price you'll always have to pay more.
Vendors handle a lot greater amount of bitcoins then buyers and have not options like they do as its a different process. I can assure you is very hard and expensive to cash out not to mention dangerous from explaining source of money. Btc when released are less for 4,2% and converted with MtGox weighted average what is very different then current buy/sell rate.
You are def wrong on that part.
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I will just try to explain that part but generaly we both agree that we are off the topic ;)
Vendors handle more money then buyers and when withdraw from exchangers (from all around the world) and withdrawl real cash from the bank/ATM fees cost a lot. They can not just withdraw 10k in the month to the bank without explain the source of the money history. Country depend on taxes and that income carry taxes. That is what I wanted to say.
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I'm looking forward to try some from AAkoven, I hope after the weekend. As I said I have a bit of a bias regarding the price, but at least I can judge quality :). Just curious, what do you consider a fair price for a g of "standard" speed?
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Price per single gram, with BTC calculated at 3.71€:
- AAkoven: 15.8€ (min. 2g)
- Blaatz0r: 9.0€
- Dagoberg: 13.27€
- dmtdoodeelsd: 17.84€ (min. 2g)
- DopeyDwarf: 9.86€
- DRAmsterdam: 28.57€
- juergen2001: 19.53€ (min. 5g)
This comparison isn't really fair since prices per gram go down when you order higher quantities, and of course it doesn't account for variations in quality.. but it gives a rough indication of current prices. Seems like there is definitely room for some competition, especially in a market where price is such a large part of the decision to buy from vendor X or Y. Other than exceptionally good reviews, at least I only consider the item descriptions sales speak that is supposed to be taken with a grain of salt (no offence to vendors :) ). Thus, price is a very big selling point.
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After reading some seller descriptions of their "super pure amphetamine" and reading the feedback of buyers, i start to wonder if anyone here actually knows what real amphetamine is and how to recognize the real deal.
I have been synthesizing amphetamines for quite a while and i can give you a few pointers on quality amphetamine sulfate.
1 Pure stuff is completely scentless. The "smell of speed" that some people seem to associate with quality product is actually the smell of unreacted precursor and byproducts
2 Pure amphetamine sulphate is not sticky nor does it come as a "paste". It is a free flowing snow white, soft and fluffy powder with a pleasant and not very bitter taste.
3 The effects are almost non physical. No sweating, trembling, increased heart rate or elevated blood pressure. These effects are almost always caused by cuts and byproducts.
Dosage is in the 20 - 50 mg range and 1 gram of real amphetamine sulfate goes a long way...
peace
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I ordered 2 grams off blaatz0r and it arrived today. Everything is fine except he only sent me 1.6g :( I'm not trying to scam or ask for compensation and honestly I don't have too much of a problem with it as long as it's good quality (haven't tested) but I'm kinda disappointed.
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Yeah, the quality is very good. Shame about the weight. It was exactly 2g when weighed with the bag, so it was probably an honest mistake and one I'm not gonna lose sleep over
(that's what the speed's for).
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has anybody here tested Juergen2001's "medical grade amphetaminphosphate"?
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After reading some seller descriptions of their "super pure amphetamine" and reading the feedback of buyers, i start to wonder if anyone here actually knows what real amphetamine is and how to recognize the real deal.
I have been synthesizing amphetamines for quite a while and i can give you a few pointers on quality amphetamine sulfate.
1 Pure stuff is completely scentless. The "smell of speed" that some people seem to associate with quality product is actually the smell of unreacted precursor and byproducts
2 Pure amphetamine sulphate is not sticky nor does it come as a "paste". It is a free flowing snow white, soft and fluffy powder with a pleasant and not very bitter taste.
3 The effects are almost non physical. No sweating, trembling, increased heart rate or elevated blood pressure. These effects are almost always caused by cuts and byproducts.
Dosage is in the 20 - 50 mg range and 1 gram of real amphetamine sulfate goes a long way...
peace
...finally somebody elso who knows his stuff!!!...but it sometimes can have a slight yellow colour...anyways, if it stinks & it's wet, it is mostly Base & cuttings and shit ;)
.......20years of heavy amph-usage....and the good old 90's stuff is gone...only fucking, stinking Base around...sad
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If Blaatz0r's stuff is indeed good quality I might place an order, seeing how his price is excellent.
About the amphetamine paste: what is in it besides amphetamine sulphate? If it has a floral smell I guess there is phenylacetone, but other than that I have no idea. What other precursors and reagent residues might be in it? I have no experience with the actual synthesis, but if the freebase is synthesized and then turned into the sulphate, can there be residual freebase left in the mix causing the gooey consistency?
I'm of course wildly offtopic, but there seems to be knowledgeable people in this thread :)
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has anybody here tested Juergen2001's "medical grade amphetaminphosphate"?
Still waiting to receive. Will definitely review if ever arrives.
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I got Blaatz0r's speed a couple of days ago and I'm testing it right now. Having only used it once a couple of years ago, I took about 50mg (small to medium line). I'm having a nice buzz for about 45min now, similar to coke. Please note that I always drink alcohol with cocaine, so it's not that easy to compare (unfortunately I can't drink alcohol right now for a comparison of coke+alcohol vs speed+alcohol).
If I take the 3 points by digitalis:
1 Pure stuff is completely scentless. The "smell of speed" that some people seem to associate with quality product is actually the smell of unreacted precursor and byproducts
Definitely has a smell, kind of a sweet and chemical one. Don't really like it.
2 Pure amphetamine sulphate is not sticky nor does it come as a "paste". It is a free flowing snow white, soft and fluffy powder with a pleasant and not very bitter taste.
It's white powder which is easy to make fine lines out of. Although I bought the 'paste' listing, he explained in the description that he sometimes has powder. Taste is not really clear, but I just had a cup of coffee which makes it harder to taste anything. It's bitterness is nowhere near any other chemicals (like MDMA or Methylone).
3 The effects are almost non physical. No sweating, trembling, increased heart rate or elevated blood pressure. These effects are almost always caused by cuts and byproducts.
My palms are sweaty and I do feel warmer. It also gives me a slight headache. My heart rate has barely increased, though. I can't measure my blood pressure right now, so nothing on that.
Overall it's quite OK. I hoped to be able to do some more focused work, but somehow I'm not able to really do that. That's probably just me.
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If you get a shipment wich is underweigh, mail me on the main site. Probally mixed up a order since a 0.4gr difference is to much.
Currently running a sale to force prices down lower price, but with the same quality :)
Also bonovic, can you tell me why you dont trust me?
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The amphetamine phosphate from juergen appears to be good quality. I'm not well-versed in street amphetamines though so I'm not the best judge. It's pure white, dry powder, mostly fluffy with some small chunks. Smell is very feint, almost floral. Taste is slightly bitter, not too bad. Effects remind me of Adderall but a tiny bit more jittery. Adderall makes me sweat a bit, this stuff makes me sweat a bit more than adderall but it's not bad. I took approx. 50mg orally for studying, I would say that was roughly equivalent to ~30mg adderall. Come down isn't bad at all. I give it a thumbs up.
Also, thought I'd add that adderall/vyvanse suppresses my appetite pretty strongly -- this doesn't seem to suppress it as much.
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Like 4 weeks ago I've ordered 3 grams from you, you've sent me three little bags with well I don't what it was but it wasn't good speed, strange stuff. Same sort of thing happened with Dopeydwarf I don't trust him either. But you're probably going to contradict this.
edit: some typos
From the past sales i got only 3 or 4 ppl got a bad quality shipment. send me your address on the main site and i shall send you a free sample of my current batch :)
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Blaatz0r, just noticed your epic price dump (the "reselling package"). Is that from the same batch of speed as you are selling smaller quantities of?
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Says it's the same quality as noticed on the previous page
I could be wrong
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I had a strange experience with Blaatz0r's speed.
First, i snorted 50mg. Nothing. Snorted 100mg. Felt something but really weak. I have no tolerance.
I tried to purify it. I washed 1g with acetone and i was left with 0.8g. Next i wanted to recrystallise it so i dissolved in 15ml of distilled water. Now, amphetamine sulfate is really soluble in water, but only 0.1g dissolved. This means it's only about 10% pure?
I'm sure Blaatz0r is a great seller and its product is good, but maybe i've received a bad batch?
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I had a strange experience with Blaatz0r's speed.
First, i snorted 50mg. Nothing. Snorted 100mg. Felt something but really weak. I have no tolerance.
I tried to purify it. I washed 1g with acetone and i was left with 0.8g. Next i wanted to recrystallise it so i dissolved in 15ml of distilled water. Now, amphetamine sulfate is really soluble in water, but only 0.1g dissolved. This means it's only about 10% pure?
I'm sure Blaatz0r is a great seller and its product is good, but maybe i've received a bad batch?
Interesting. 8)
Just to make sure (and you may already know all this stuff), when you did the recrystallization did you wash the filter with water before and after filtration?
Or just decant the liquid?
Depending on the filter used, it's possible for dissolved amphetamine sulphate to adsorb to it. Even laboratory-grade filter paper has this effect, and I find you can lose up to 50mg-250mg (depending on the filter size and type) without a thorough wash.
Decanting with such small amounts (especially around 100mg) also causes significant loses (you can see it recrystallizing even in the tiniest droplets).
If you did go through everything thoroughly then it's possible there's even less than 10% :o. Since caffeine is a very common adulterant and is also water soluble.
Hope this gets sorted out though.
Although without GC/HPLC/LC + NMR/MS/FTIR results, it's pretty hard to judge the purity accurately.
And just as a reference for everybody:
Solubility of amphetamine sulphate in water = 50-100mg/mL at 20°C.
Solubility of caffeine in water = 16-20mg/mL at 20°C.
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I had a strange experience with Blaatz0r's speed.
First, i snorted 50mg. Nothing. Snorted 100mg. Felt something but really weak. I have no tolerance.
I tried to purify it. I washed 1g with acetone and i was left with 0.8g. Next i wanted to recrystallise it so i dissolved in 15ml of distilled water. Now, amphetamine sulfate is really soluble in water, but only 0.1g dissolved. This means it's only about 10% pure?
I'm sure Blaatz0r is a great seller and its product is good, but maybe i've received a bad batch?
Interesting. 8)
Just to make sure (and you may already know all this stuff), when you did the recrystallization did you wash the filter with water before and after filtration?
Or just decant the liquid?
Depending on the filter used, it's possible for dissolved amphetamine sulphate to adsorb to it. Even laboratory-grade filter paper has this effect, and I find you can lose up to 50mg-250mg (depending on the filter size and type) without a thorough wash.
Decanting with such small amounts (especially around 100mg) also causes significant loses (you can see it recrystallizing even in the tiniest droplets).
If you did go through everything thoroughly then it's possible there's even less than 10% :o. Since caffeine is a very common adulterant and is also water soluble.
Hope this gets sorted out though.
Although without GC/HPLC/LC + NMR/MS/FTIR results, it's pretty hard to judge the purity accurately.
And just as a reference for everybody:
Solubility of amphetamine sulphate in water = 50-100mg/mL at 20°C.
Solubility of caffeine in water = 16-20mg/mL at 20°C.
Caffeine dissolves in acetone quite easily so it's cleaned in the first wash.
I rinsed the filter (lab grade) of course. I dissolved 0.8g of acetone cleaned speed in water and filtered out the insoluble material. I cooled the solution in the freezer and while it was cooling i dried the undissolved speed and it weighted 0.7g (which means 0.1g actually dissolved).
Now it gets strange. I couldn't get it to crystallize. I've done it before, and after placing in the freezer crystals start forming in a short time. All i got was some white particles on the bottom of the solution. Judging by eye it was around 10-20mg. I was like "WTF?!?" so i evaporated the solution hoping to get some usable product. I was left with a paste. If i try to heat it up to evaporate more water, it MELTS and boil. It looks like really wet paper... If i melt it and then allow it to cool i get the same paste. Probably some hydrate? I forgot to weight it, will do tomorrow. Unfortunately i can't measure MP/BP because i broke my thermometer last week :/
The 0.7g leftover melts and boils too. It's not caffeine, i know exactly how melting/boiling caffeine looks like.
Tomorrow i'll try to evaporate the paste and condense it on a cold finger, hoping to get a crystalline product.
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It is not good to place solution on too cold place, freezer.
Crystallization is slow process and it should be done properly. Put solution on 3c-5c temp and try to induce crystallization by rubbing side of the flast.
Only then when some crystals start to form, leave it more time on 3c-5c temperature.
If no crystals start to form them some solvent must be evaporated and try to induce crystallization again.
Of course, question is how much amph is there to begin with...
I think that cleaning it is a waste of time. If speed is good then you will know it by trying it and if its weak then you already know the answer.
It is unknown what all is inside and simple washing is not enough for purity test.
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Yeah in fact when i took it out of the freezer more white particles started falling out of solution. No crystals, and it was a really small amount. Anyway probably i just got a bad batch.
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I'm a little confused as to what the amphetamine-phosphate that Juergen is selling. How does it compare to amphetamine sulfate and prescription medications like adderall and vyvanse? I've looked on the internet and can't really find anything on it. Also any reviews on the product would be greatly appreciated. I'm not really looking for anything like speed but more of a study-aid like vyvanse. Thanks!
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OK So this is a little update.
I have tried a few more speed dealers and am coming up with a review.
- Tried Juergen once more and I had the same thing happen again really. It made me more awake, but I had no real euphoria or body buzz. I was making massive lines at a time and felt like I was on a good bit of caffeine more than anything.
Mind you this was before he took his listings down and now has new things up.
- Hash UK
This came nicely packaged and didn't have a real smell to it. It kinda felt like juergan's stuff except where Jeurgan's stuff made me awake and I still had an appetite, HashUKs killed it.
-AAkoven
I ordered a gram of the Speed Paste and I had to dry it out a bit before I used it. OMG this stuff stunk to high heaven so I was REALLY excited. But I was sadly let down. It didn't last very long but it did keep me feeling awake.
I have ordered from DrAmsterdam now and have not receieved anything yet, but I am saw a review that is making me a little bit hopeful. It is the 60% quality one.
Honestly I am finding this a little fustrating because I feel like I am just insufflating weak stuff when I know what the really good stuff is like. I feel a bit spoilt now. I really hope I find a good speed dealer.
xLadyShhhx
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If you want to pay such prices for a much more extreme euphoric and energetic effect, wouldn't it be more interesting to buy some ice or crystal meth? Those two forms are generally manufactured in larger labs in Mexico and some other countries and are far more superior than the home cooked meth.
Quite frankly no. I have no interest in Meth. I mean I do, but that is what is keeping me from doing it. That and people I know who had no problems with recreational use of speed just becoming shells of themselves on meth. Pretty sad imo.
So.. not really worth it for me. As for the tolerance thing, I was having large gaps in between each try and with my first try with Jurguen's I hadn't had it for ages before I did it and I know what good speed is and feels like.
Currently I haven't had speed in 3 weeks. Been exercising, eating healthy, ect. So really would I still have a tolerance by the time DrAmsterdam's stuff gets here? I would think not? Or am I wrong?
xLadyShhhx
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ok so i finally got around to trying some of AA's speed that i purchased 1 month ago and i measured out a 60mg line at 9.08pm, its not 9.30pm and i feel nothing except maybe the sort of increased heart rate i get from drinking a cup of coffee.....i havn't done any amphetamines in 3 weeks now so i thought i should at least feel something.....
That was from my old batch :o JOKER ..the new one i have only 2 weeks.!!! :P
Its uncut so , No caffeine in , Or other shit..!!
if u dont like it...its not good ; then go see a doctor its 72 % . lab test so...What u want more...
I even had a troll...its not 70 %... i mailed him ...but no response.!! :-\
take care ...AA 8)
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;( i will buy speed now, but when i read this thread here im not sure where at this moment?
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You're totally right. I don't want to recommended people to use any type of drugs in general of course, especially (meth) amphetamines are highly addictive and can really destroy a persons life as we all know. On the other side I also believe in freedom of choice, so people (adults) should make their own decision if they want to try it.
Oh I would never stop someone else from doing it. At most I would warn thm and express concern. But as for me personally... nope.. not going down that road. And that is using my right to abstain :D
xLadyShhhx
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so i received 2 grams from blatz0r. I had left some positive comments before about his speed. But this speed was really disappointing...and i hadnt taken anything for 20 days...and i really dont have big tolerance...
i dont know but it seems that almost all vendors here are quite scamming us...i mean saying that you have 50% speed, or 70% or 80% while it is actually 5% or less seems to me like scamming....And can we trust that they dont put research chemicals? Some of them sell 4FA or 2dpmp or whatever...
Only promising looks the medical grade of juergen although i havent test it but this price is more than enormous...
Bulk Dexedrine pills from USA seems better than what market has in EU right now....
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A little update about my speed cleaning experience with Blaatz0r's speed:
I think Blaatz0r speed is actually 10%. I left my cleaned, pasty speed in air for some days and it dried. Now it looks like cotton (why? O_o) and weight 0.1g, and it's indeed pure. I dissolved 20mg in a bit of water and sprayed it up my nose. It was REALLY good. Even a bit too much.
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Can you also try the other vendors with the same method?
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***** WARNING *****
don't buy anything from blaatz0r and dopeydwarf.
these two fucktards (if they're not the same person using different accounts which is more likely) are selling almost pure mannitol and other cutting agents as speed. the stuff doesn't even contain 2% amphetamine sulphate. i'm highly surprised they haven't been banned yet.
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Can you also try the other vendors with the same method?
I'm sorry, I'm broke at the moment :( I'll do it when i get some money.
I don't think Blaatz0r sells 2% stuff. I got a 10% yield of pure amphetamine sulfate from his speed, I think it's at least 10% (more like 15% because of mechanical losses in the extraction). I took 20mg yesterday night and it really felt like 20mg of pure amphetamine sulfate.
I also don't think it's pure mannitol.
I evaporated the acetone from the first wash, and it formed needle-like crystals. That's mannitol, I'm 99% sure.
So I know it's 20% mannitol, 10-15% amphetamine sulfate. No caffeine. I'd like to know what's the other 65-70% though.
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even if his "speed" does contain 10% amphetamine sulphate (which mine sure as hell didn't) its still a major fucking ripoff. blaatz0r is just profiting from the fact that the vast majority of people on silk road are not familiar with what speed is supposed to be like.
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even if his "speed" does contain 10% amphetamine sulphate (which mine sure as hell didn't) its still a major fucking ripoff. blaatz0r is just profiting from the fact that the vast majority of people on silk road are not familiar with what speed is supposed to be like.
Agreed. 20% speed is 40€/g where i live and i paid 5€/g for Blaatz0r's speed, so i'm not really angry, but it's still a ripoff.
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The best quality speed I've had was from DrAmsterdam, it was excellent quality and I felt some euphoria and it kept me stimulated and I was productive. Juergen2001's "80%" pure speed is decent, but not quite as good as DrAmsterdam's .. DopeyDwarf's product has nothing to do with speed imo, or maybe it just has a very small amount of amphetamines in it. I did not feel anything on DopeyDwarfs speed, I simply fell asleep. I have yet to try DerSpeedDoktor.. However I have a package on the way, and will update later.
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This is my review of mrouids air jordan speed pills, I was disappointed by them - but mrouid worked with me and proved to be a very good vendor. I hope to try his Ice pills someday -as I've heard good things about them
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DopeyDwarf's product has nothing to do with speed imo, or maybe it just has a very small amount of amphetamines in it. I did not feel anything on DopeyDwarfs speed, I simply fell asleep.
dopeydwarf is a piece of shit scammer, just like blaatz0r. these two have been selling almost pure cutting agents as speed. they should be banned from silk road immediately.
this place is supposed to have better quality drugs than you can buy on the street instead of worse.
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If anything can be taken from this - DO NOT BUY THESE PILLS. I am so frustrated and left with a feeling of being robbed that I haven't been able to sleep - I had to get out of bed and write this. Apologies for the long rant.
Long stream-of-consciousness rant, check. General feeling of agitation, check. Inability to fall asleep, check. You sure those pills were rubbish? :)
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DopeyDwarf's product has nothing to do with speed imo, or maybe it just has a very small amount of amphetamines in it. I did not feel anything on DopeyDwarfs speed, I simply fell asleep.
dopeydwarf is a piece of shit scammer, just like blaatz0r. these two have been selling almost pure cutting agents as speed. they should be banned from silk road immediately.
this place is supposed to have better quality drugs than you can buy on the street instead of worse.
You have 6 posts, all blaming that DopeyDwarf and blaatz0r are scammers. Got nothing better to do?
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If anything can be taken from this - DO NOT BUY THESE PILLS. I am so frustrated and left with a feeling of being robbed that I haven't been able to sleep - I had to get out of bed and write this. Apologies for the long rant.
Long stream-of-consciousness rant, check. General feeling of agitation, check. Inability to fall asleep, check. You sure those pills were rubbish? :)
Absolutely sure, I still have some of AAkovens and its a world of difference. Like I wrote - try the pills out, you'll want your money back. Perhaps if you ask him mrouid might send you a sample(he is nice enough) and you won't have to waste your money on his minimum listed quantity of 50.
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DopeyDwarf's product has nothing to do with speed imo, or maybe it just has a very small amount of amphetamines in it. I did not feel anything on DopeyDwarfs speed, I simply fell asleep.
dopeydwarf is a piece of shit scammer, just like blaatz0r. these two have been selling almost pure cutting agents as speed. they should be banned from silk road immediately.
this place is supposed to have better quality drugs than you can buy on the street instead of worse.
You have 6 posts, all blaming that DopeyDwarf and blaatz0r are scammers. Got nothing better to do?
everyone needs to know. i wouldn't want other people to get ripped of by them like they did to me.
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Don't buy, don't get ripped of
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what is real speed nowadays? All stuff i see passing by doesnt compare to what i was used to early 90's. It keeps you awake and slight euforia.... but not wanting to eat or big euforia is nowhere to be found anymore.
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really depressive here! i have money to buy this and this...but read only speed bad quality, H bad quality, cocaine also......silk road need a change, new feedbacks rules.....
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Hi, just wanted to stick up for Blaatzor's speed a bit. Yeah its on the weak side, but it gives me a nice pleasant spacy, floating buzz by itself. Ive ordered 2 grams of his. And I've ordered Der speed doktor's 5 gram sale special back in Feb. Doktor's stuff is strong for me and has strong chemical smell, and stings a bit to snort, first time I've tried it I was up for 2 days, heh. So actually I like to mix and snort a 2 to 1 ratio of Blaatzors to Doktors stuff (like .5 gram to a quarter gram) To get that just right feeling of not too weak and not too strong. Lets face it with blaatzors prices of around $1.50 BTC a gram you are not getting the strong stuff, but it still has a nice effect to me. I'm a casual user with low tolerance and I use like once every week or 2. And lets remember guys speed effects can be somewhat subjective due to different tolerances, diets, personal chemistries, sizes, etc. of the individual. What sets one guy off to the moon, may be weak coffee to the next guy.
Also I liked mr ouid's Ice speed pills, and I know his stuff could either be reviewed in here or meth section. I ordered his 5 pills at time when he was selling small amounts. I can't really afford his 50 pills at time now, but it was good stuff, like half a pill was plenty to get buzzed for the day and still be able to sleep that night. Well thats all I wanted to review, happy tweaking guys!
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From mrouid:s profile page:
RECALL (Air Jordans): I've been informed by a couple of buyers that these were very weak. If you ordered any of theseplease get in touch with me. I will gladly replace them with some ICE pills which are have been highly rated by all buyers so far.
Has anyone knowledgeable tried the "ICE"-pills and can say whether they are amphetamine or methamphetamine?
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From mrouid:s profile page:
RECALL (Air Jordans): I've been informed by a couple of buyers that these were very weak. If you ordered any of theseplease get in touch with me. I will gladly replace them with some ICE pills which are have been highly rated by all buyers so far.
Has anyone knowledgeable tried the "ICE"-pills and can say whether they are amphetamine or methamphetamine?
mrouids ICE pills were first listed in the meth section back when only like vortex and dopeboy were selling meth. So technically I think they contain meth. I think he has them listed in speed section now because they have a more general amphetamine 'speed-like' effect(like more energy and focus without feeling that meth supercharged that you would be up for days). Like I said before half a pill does me plenty, and they have a groove in the middle to make it easier to score and cut in half.
EDIT: Also I think ICE pills were put in speed section because the meth section of SR is selling all crystal meth shard products, and the ICE is hard pressed pills.
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you're absolutely right bonovic, i can confirm this as well. until a few years ago i could always get high quality speed for around 5 euros a gram, but one contact stopped selling and the other got busted.
recently i wanted to use some again and stumbled upon silk road. but most people here are just selling low quality crap ,with the exception of dramsterdam and aakoven (his speed is not as good dramsterdam's but still decent).
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I just recieved 5 grams of speed from aakoven and it is just fine, I'm verry happy :P!
It was was my first time as a buyer, he answerd my questions instantly and it gave me good feeling of trust.
I placed the order on sunday so it took 3 day's to get here, i could'nt wish for more ;D
greets
one happy buyer
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High friends,
I'm an amphetamine addict/user since 20years, and it is pretty sad, that the stuff you get nowadays is either stinky sticky horrible cut base or very expensive also heavy cut salts.
Back in the 90's, it was like Speedheaven, Lot's of different cheap good stuff everywhere...
...but...I just popped over some nice stuff, bone dry, hard like a stone, slightly yellow. I did an acetone wash (for the first time in my life!) and ended up with a snow white light smelling bitter powder.
ratio: 2,9g before/ 2,3g after acetone wash (sounds almost too good to be true for ME).
...this would be something about 70%...wow
It give's you a nice buzz, but I also had now problem sleeping after 40h snorting
.......but smoked some badass dark brown moroccan hash the whole time, haha ;)
I don't have much left (5g) for giving away for this time besides my private batch ;)
but I will offer 2 free small samples for chosen members for quality check.
If the quality check is good, I can arrange some more,
-but no bulk, no orders more than 5g, only EU...and it won't be a bargain, from this batch there is only limited amount at one time...sorry, I have to take care and protect my family. I'm no big pusher, just a user tryin' to share goodies to nice people, since the EU speed market is some kind of resting...
For the sample: please no PM-Bombing from newbies, no offend, but free stuff only goes to trustable well known members.
Love & Peace
BockZu
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Sounds good BockZu i have ordered plenty of speed of SR.I probably wont count to get a free sample but hopefully you can arrange some good speed to sell here on SR my friend.Getting hold of god speed is so difficult now.
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Does anyone know something about DRAmsterdam?
I ordered his amphetamine like a month ago ("60%"-Batch) and it was really really awesome.
After trying this I realized what shit is selled by some other vendors and especially on the streets.
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Can anyone comment on the quality of dmtdoodeelsd's speed?
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Finally got a hold of some of Jeurgen's medical grade.......it seems medical grade. 40-50mg feels like 30mg of adderall by mouth. Very pleased.
Anyone try gotmilks "90%?" Sounds appealing, but the only reviews I see are for his narcotics. I emailed them with questions about the product and did not receive a response (Actually still has not read the PM).
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Awaiting an order from AAkoven and another one from Der Speed Doktor. Will report on quality once it arrives!
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Sounds appealing
Everything sounds appealing here right but sadly in many cases you get a fucking knife in your back when you order something ???
Anyway, if the stuff of gotmilk is amphetamine sulphate (it probably is) then it's simply false advertising because the max. purity is 73%. (please correct me if I'm wrong gotmilk)
the max. purity is 73%. your right end my stuff is 72.% ....
so ...what is there more to say , all the bull about ..5-10 years ago...how good all was then , wtf...
damn , like a buns off school girls here...
U are talking about dope...someone take for FUN ;)
AA
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Sounds appealing
Everything sounds appealing here right but sadly in many cases you get a fucking knife in your back when you order something ???
Anyway, if the stuff of gotmilk is amphetamine sulphate (it probably is) then it's simply false advertising because the max. purity is 73%. (please correct me if I'm wrong gotmilk)
I think they meant purity as a sulfate(salt) what is equivalent 73% purity as freebase amphetamine.
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My 1st SR buying experience was 5g of "80 pure amphetamine" from a vendor who is a liar & FRAUD pure and simple. The stuff was so wet to begin with that after I dried it to a stage where it could be cut into lines it was less than 4g in weight. Mathematically that remaining ~4g must have been 100% pure Amphet-base!! NO it was most likely less than 5% purity, it was possible the worst amphetamine I have had in 15yrs. Clowns like this are the biggest threat to the integrity and future prosperity of silkroad IMHO.
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My 1st SR buying experience was 5g of "80 pure amphetamine" from a vendor who is a liar & FRAUD pure and simple. The stuff was so wet to begin with that after I dried it to a stage where it could be cut into lines it was less than 4g in weight. Mathematically that remaining ~4g must have been 100% pure Amphet-base!! NO it was most likely less than 5% purity, it was possible the worst amphetamine I have had in 15yrs. Clowns like this are the biggest threat to the integrity and future prosperity of silkroad IMHO.
i would not call juergen a liar, but rather a guy with a lack of knowledge. i also ordered his "80% pure amphetamine" and it's the base he is sending, so what you call "drying" it is just evaporating the amphetamin. so i believe you when you say it does not kick in :D
he does not know what he is doing, neither do you ;)
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Sounds appealing
Everything sounds appealing here right but sadly in many cases you get a fucking knife in your back when you order something ???
Anyway, if the stuff of gotmilk is amphetamine sulphate (it probably is) then it's simply false advertising because the max. purity is 73%. (please correct me if I'm wrong gotmilk)
the max. purity is 73%. your right end my stuff is 72.% ....
so ...what is there more to say , all the bull about ..5-10 years ago...how good all was then , wtf...
damn , like a buns off school girls here...
U are talking about dope...someone take for FUN ;)
AA
sorry, but its but I think its :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_legend
here is the explanation :
type in google : amphetamine sulphate max purity
on the first site there is a explanation
or on this site :
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/law-report-2-june-1998--sentencing-guidelines-for-importation-of-amph-etamine-1162447.html
In cases concerning the importation of amphetamine, the appropriate levels of sentence should depend not on the market value of the drugs, but, subject to all other considerations, on the quantity of the amphetamine in question calculated on the basis of 100 per cent pure amphetamine base (i.e. the maximum theoretical purity of 73 per cent amphetamine base in amphetamine sulphate, the remaining 27 per cent being the sulphate).
hoping you all now will be sure there IS a 100% pure amph, consisting of sulphate and freebase.
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Finally got a hold of some of Jeurgen's medical grade.......it seems medical grade. 40-50mg feels like 30mg of adderall by mouth. Very pleased.
I'm also very pleased with this product. I use it for studying so I haven't taken over 20mg at a time but it gets the job done at this amount. More energy, motivation, concentration and slight euphoria.
Can't compare it to any of the other of the amphetamines sold on SR because I'm fairly new here but I'm pleased with this product and can recommend it.
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Guys,
you can not say purity is 66% amphetamine and 33% sulphate. That is NOT a mixture - amphetamine sulphate is one molecule, single molecular sceleton, and sulphate are bind to amphetamine base on molecular level. Its is wrong call sulphate as impurity, its not separate substance.
Its need to say that purity is calculated as base or salt and all is good.
Amphetamine is not sold as a base, its sold as a sulphate salt.
So 100mg amphetamine sulphate is equivalent of 73mg amphetamine base. If you have 73mg amphetamine base and 100mg amphetamine sulphate both has same potency and purity.
Purity is calculated on according to molar mass.
Its interesting fact that if you take orally amphetamine base in stomach will be covert by hcl acid in stomach to hydrochloride salt. And this will gain on mass for that hcl group attached to base molecule.
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@mseller correct ;)
what is a stupid idea to compare base to salt?
all drugs have similar ratio in amphetamine sulphate is 73% weight amphetamine base and 27% is weight salt...
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Thanks for the contribution psychogarden but that is mentioned before, in case you claim it's 90% pure amph. sulphate, it means that it is approx 66% amph and 33% sulphate. If one seller includes the sulphate in the purity and others don't then it's kind of confusing right? But I'm really fan of the most obvious explanation, so imho the seller just wants to overrule the purity claims of the other sellers here and is simply falsely advertising, don't be so naive people.
okay, you're right. but I think its not worth showing how much is there of base and how much of the sulphate/phosphate/hydrochloride. bases of products have different ROA (road of administration) than others. whats more important is how much is in there of inert ingredients (glucose, lactose, fiver, coffeine, RC). its like with crack - when you make it from the cocaine you get less than in the beginning, but the price is higher.
so by showing how much is in there of base is a bit overrated. we all here are looking for pure products without cuts and that is why its best to just show how pure is the product, not how much base is in it. sulphate/hydrochloride doesnt make it cutted lol
@mseller, you were faster, but we are onthe same page for sure ;)
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If seller sell amphetamine sulphate 80% purity, it mean that has 80% amphetamine sulphate and 20% some other substance.
Organic salt is a unique molecule and if seller sell 100% amphetamine sulphate that means there is no other chemicals in it.
Organic base has Molecular weight as a organic salt.
I will try to explain little better.
Yield are calculated according to MW
if organic base has MW= 300
and in salt form has MW=336,50
Then when base(300g) is covert to a salt using hcl acid, maximum yield of 100% you get 336,50g of organic hydrochloride salt.
Both (base 300g and hcl salt 336,50) from conversion has 100% purity. Hydrochloride is not separated in the mass as speparate substance, its attached to base molecule on molecular level - it became one.
1 molecule h2so4 is attached to 2 molecule of amphetamine base (after conversion to salt that group is single molecule) Impurity is some other molecule what is not attached, it is mixed within mass.
Heroin is nothing other then morphine with 2 acetyl group attached to morphine. If you have 100% pharm heroin, it can be in base form and as hcl salt - both has 100% pure.
You can not say that water(h2o) is impure oxygen, can you? lol
Sodium chloride (NaCL) salt, you can not say that its impure sodium. Or that chloride is impurity in let say 1g NaCL (100% purity)
Purity is measure only for one chemical. If you have 100mg morphine sulphate you can not say it only 75% pure - its wrong. 100mg 100% morphine sulphate mean that there is no other chemicals in that 100mg mass. Impure substance is only mixture of different chemicals.
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Hydrochloric acid is used to make methamphetamine, for amphetamine sulphate the sulphate salt is used. But anyway it's getting way to scientific at this point, we just have a difference of interpretation let's agree on that :)
Wrong, hydroiodic acid is used for reduction in methamphetamine synthesis and not hcl acid.
What salt will be is depend on which type of acid is used, I have used example of mw of any organic base or organic salt and not just for amphetamine sulphate. It can be phosphate, hydrochloride, sulphate etc etc.
We should say correct information what is based on chemistry science and not what is hearsay on the street. So its certainly useful to correct misinformations.
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mseller - you are the man :P
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You can not rely on data published on some drug forum....
Only scientific articles count as valid reference and not source like post on other forums from general public.
Let say I bought pyiridine hydrochloride (powder) from brand chemical supplier. Purity is 99,5 % Tehnical list and MSDS included. It has cas number,molecular formula, molecular weigh, density and other data. There is and pyridine (liquid)(purity %99). I would have a hard time to calculate how much base is in pyridine hydrochloride if chemical is listed as 70% purity!?
Go on sigma-aldrich and find amphetamine sulphate - purity +99%
Its simple to find correct information.
I do understand why people see it like you do but that is just wrong.
purity is one thing, equivalent of active drug between base and salt is another. Both those forms have different mol weight so according to the same mass it can not have same potency. But purity is something other and its just wrong term here. Salt is not impurity, its a part(bonded) of drug molecule.
Better term is active as drug. Drug activity. 100mg morphine sulphate has same potency as 75mg morphine base, but both are 100% pure! That is what I want to say.
p.s.
Please, I do not flame you or anything like that. Just want to explain better and hope that you will think about this perspective. My English sucks...
Good night. :)
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Wanted to say and just simple logical example.
Let say that you buy pharm amphetamine sulphate. You can not say like its 73% pure, you dont have amphetamine in base form so you can not express purity to a substance what you dont have in the first place. You have amphetamine sulphate what is 100% pure and base equivalent is 73%. Amphetamine base and amphetamine sulphate are two different molecule, have different weight, cas and formula.
You can not look at amphetamine sulphate and say it unpure because there is only 73% amph base! To have a base you need to convert amph in salt form to base.
If vendor advertise amphetamine sulphate 100% that mean that there is no other stuff other then amphetamine sulphate.
Its up to user to be informed how much equivalent in base form that really is, but vendor advertised it correctly.
Another example:
Morphine sulphate 100mg capsule (not counting other inactive in the capsule.
Equivalent morphine as a base is around 75%, but is false to call morphine sulphate as only 75$ pure - that is just pointless.
Purity in comparation is just plain wrong word, its not suitable in this. Equivalent as a base is suitable term.
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in this moment, who has the best amphetamine?
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bonovic
I do not contradict that from 100mg (100%) pure amphetamine sulphate you can get max 73%(100% pure) amphetamine in the base form.
But its wrong use term of maximum purity. You have amphetamine sulphate, not a freebase what is different molecule.
Amphetamine base is one molecule and amphetamine sulphate is another. Sulphate is not separate molecule, its chemicly bonded to amphetamine base molecule.
In amphetamine sulphate there is no base! It need to converted by chemical reaction.
100% pure amphetamine sulphate is EQUIVALENT of 73% (100% pure) amphetamine freebase.
Amphetamine base and amphetamine sulphate is not a mixture!
If I want to get a freebase from 100mg amphetamine sulphate by chemical reaction, max (best) theoretical yield would be 73mg.
Purity is not suitable term here.
Its just that 100mg 100% pure amphetamine sulphate has same potency as a 73mg (100% pure) amphetamine base.
Amphetamine hydrochloride 100mg (100% pure) has same potency (equivalent) as 87mg (100% pure) amphetamine base.
In amphetamine salt (solid) is only one chemical (molecule) and there is not freebase (oil)
Amphetamine sulphate is not contaminated with another chemical, only then it would be less pure!
Opium, has around 10% morphine. Its absurd that you call opium 10% pure morphine?! See what I mean to say.
Chemical Name: AMPHETAMINE
Molecular Formula: C10H15N
Formula Weight: 149.23
CAS No.: 22374-89-6
Chemical Name: AMPHETAMINE HYDROCHLORIDE
Molecular Formula: C9H14ClN
Formula Weight: 171.67
CAS No.: 300-62-9
Chemical Name: AMPHETAMINE SULPHATE
Molecular Formula: C10H19NO5S
Formula Weight: 265.32656
CAS No.: 60-13-9
Above it cleary state that its 3 different molecule with different formula and different molar weight.
All three can have max teorethical purity of 100%
Base and salt are bonded in single molecule and its not a mixture.
Opposite also applay;
from 73mg (100% pure) amphetamine base,conversion by use h2so4 max yield is 100mg amphetamine sulphate but 100% pure!
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in your experience, what is the seller who has the best amphetamine?
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i also would like to no what the current ranking is... ;D
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I just got Blaatzor's $6.60/gm speed in the mail. Smells like ammonia and tastes like speed.
It isn't sweet at all so I find it hard to imagine it is cut with mannitol.
I'm not really experienced with this as the only speed I've had in the past was Juergen's, which was nice, but had a much different smell (similar taste though).
I use it for studying (cheap version of adderall). With juergen's it took around 50mg+20mg boost oral or 40mg insufflated to get to the level of focus I wanted. I'lll see what Blaatzor's takes, although I'm hesitant to snort with the smell.
Soon I'll have 2gm of AAkoven's as well and I can compare all 3.
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element, which juergens did you try? the medical grade or the "80%" . I just ordered a gram of the medical grade. Too big price for amphetamine, actually it costs like cocaine! but if at least it is indeed pure thats good cause i am also using amphetamines for study...
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I used the "80%" which is probably more like 30%
the medical I'm assuming you can use much less of.
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Anyone know what's up with gotmilk? He hasn't logged on in 2 days.
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Tried Blaatzor's batch today.
Insufflated 50mg, real smooth. No burn at all, despite the sharp smell, and felt a small rush instantly. Didn't need to chase with water.
Not really enough (even for studying) so I tried another 50mg.
100mg was a decent dose for studying. I'd compare to around 30mg of Juergen's product. If I did it again I'd use probably 150mg. Or 2x90mg lines 2 hrs apart. Not bad considering Adderall is $10 a pill on here.
Disappointing it was this weak but it was more than 4 times cheaper ($6.60 per gram!) so I can't complain too much.
I might end up getting Juergen's medical grade as dosage would be easier. Divided into 40mg pills / lines would be 25 doses or $4/dose.
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NVM about my previous post. The effect wore off fairly quickly and I felt myself getting distracted easily, not even as good as 30mg of Juergen's. Next time I would probably take more than 200mg. Pretty weak stuff.
I'll see how AAkoven's is. If it really is 72% I will be pleasantly surprised. If not I'll go back to juergen's "80%" or try his medical stuff.
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Hey guys, back from a month of vacation i ordered from aakoven and was glad to see der speed doktor back with listings.
AA's gear arrived yesterday (3 business days in EU ) after my break i immediately chopped and railed some - gave me some little boost, but compared to the amount i did... very weak stuff imho so i stopped railing after about 0,3g and had no problems going to sleep 3 hours after last line.... ! !!
Today Der speed's gear arrived and as expected iam nicely tweaked after the first line :)
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How much of Der Speed Doktor's stuff did you do? It seems like everyone is giving him positive reviews.
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i was tweaked after the first line, i would say was about 50mg...
Doing my 6th line now, going to binge the whole night :)
I never got disapointed when ordered from Der speed, the only "bad" thing is he's only got limited supply at the moment...
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I've ordered from all the big speed vendors except der speed doc. So far one batch of Blaatz0rs was fairly decent, other than that the rest have smelt like that old school smell, but have been crap.
My only hope is the speed doctor otherwise i give up on SR for speed.
Thats my 2 cents
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jup, sampled pretty much everything sold here, too. except speed from uk...
if you keep der speeds gear deep frozen, it really knocks on your brain :) fresh = best ^^
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Well it doesn't seem like I will be able to give a review for DrAmsterdam's speed as it never arrived to me...
Yeah. I am kinda annoyed.
xLadyShhhx
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just ordered from aakoven and will give a review after i try it. i have had many many years of speed experience ... from the shittiest club crap all the way up to medical grade. aakoven's sounds promising and from the reviews the other vendors are either selling crap or are charging astronomical prices. i suggest people in the us order meth - heisenburgs stuff is very similar to the pure speed i used to use when living in europe.
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gotmilk can send Amphetamine from Eu i need to test this 90+ 8)
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Yeah, I'd like to hear what people say about Amsterdope too. I'd like to get some speed from him, but I'm feeling a bit skeptical.
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I have a sample coming in from Amsterdope.
Ordered some from AAkoven two weeks ago, still waiting on it.
I'll review them both when they get here
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Following..
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don't get too excited about AA's stuff. Very weak. More like 10% at best. Looking forward to trying dr speed dr's. Will report back here
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i can say iam very happy with AA.
just takes 2-3 days to arrive, always good stuff, iam amphe-user for a few years now always looking for good stuff, so when i take one line too much of AA-Amphe i will get no sleep.Last time i had enough stuff ( for 50 €) to be awake for a few days with just 20 min. sleep every 12 hours :o :o 8) 8)
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don't get too excited about AA's stuff. Very weak. More like 10% at best. Looking forward to trying dr speed dr's. Will report back here
TROLL..Alert !!!!!!
1, U never did an order from me... :-* i looked back my feedback for 3 months. Donkie....
2, 10 % well then the lab boys are stupid right..wen they told my friend is was uncut 73 % pure.. ;)
My guess this is a another vendor ...yes boys.end girls ..its not the first time i seen this.
AAkoven 8)
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don't get too excited about AA's stuff. Very weak. More like 10% at best. Looking forward to trying dr speed dr's. Will report back here
TROLL..Alert !!!!!!
1, U never did an order from me... :-* i looked back my feedback for 3 months. Donkie....
2, 10 % well then the lab boys are stupid right..wen they told my friend is was uncut 73 % pure.. ;)
My guess this is a another vendor ...yes boys.end girls ..its not the first time i seen this.
AAkoven 8)
Yeah I typically don't listen to users with 2 posts.
I have high hopes for your new batch, provided it gets here!
Been two weeks since ordering so I'm hoping it gets here soon!
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I am looking for the best speed in Europe, who the best quality currently has?
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I've only tried 3 sellers on SR, but Aakoven is my go-to guy. Nice, clean amphetamine. Comes as what looks to be a paste, but turns to dry snortable form the minute it hits the air.
No idea about percentage purity, because my tolerance is varying from week to week (by the way people, take this into account when people say something is "weak" or "strong"...sometimes it points more to the regularity they take the stuff than the stuff itself), but all I can say is that it is, relatively, very good.
Plus he's one of the most consistent, efficient sellers I've come across...and that includes sellers of legal goods! Wouldn't bother chipping in here if I wasn't so happy with the service.
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I also ordered from AA 3 weeks ago... Amphetamine never came tru, but today after talking to him he proposed sending some goodies for free.
He is a great guy , he likes to joke a lot hehe . One of the best here in SR for sure!
Thank you for your attention AA!
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i never tried another vendor than AA aka aakoven.....i ordered now about 10 times and ALWAYS letter came after 2-3 days, if u are looking for typical Speed - Turn like it used to be in the good old days just try it and be happy u ordered!!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
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AA aka aakoven - he's the man for users looking for decent amphetamine! i'm a heavy speed guy by myself and i had a lot of quality material, but the phet from aakoven is definitely one of the cleanest + purest i've ever seen! i haven't tried out any other vendor yet, but i guess i'll stick by aakoven... - exact definition of the product he's selling: "amphetamine sulphate, uncut, not wet, lab-tested 72%" - it's so super clean shit, that you can get immediately fucked up after 2x lines of 75mg., if you don't have a tolerance, haha...
just one point to complain about: not his packaging, the fact that he didn't vac. seal his product! i've received a slightly bigger order from him the last couple of weeks and i couldn't believe it, that the customs didn't recognize what was inside... you could smell the reek of the phet from one meter distance through the packaging... - that's a major security issue he immediately should close! - even i've ordered now a vac. seal. machine, but i'm just reselling some products...
so, by the way - everyone who is too afraid to get shipping from aakoven directly from the nl - can order from me! i do sell exactly the same stuff, also uncut + max. high quality!
vending profile post:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d4dd93d93d
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...exactly what I 'd like to say.AA had always good and clean stuff, but the packaging could be improved !!!
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Ive found that sulphate scent will still escape a vacuum seal. But some protection is better than none!!!
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moz30 has sent some stuff for testing and the "80%" speed of juergen2001 tested quite bad.
Don't know the actual potency of this speed when you use it but it's clear it doesn't match description.
The results were write in mg per gram
Jürgen2001´s "80%speed" was the baddest stuff, i only think tha people love it because of the Meth and the caffeine!
Amphetamine 65mg/g
Methamphetamine 66mg/g
caffeine 230mg/g
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the only thing i find surprising about this is the meth! Just felt like practically NO amphet and caffeine. I've got high hopes for dr speed doc. Never ordered from Dr amsterdam, just think the price is too high. Hopefully der speed doc will change opinion in SR speed!
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Anyone tried the speed pills from AfghanApothecary? Same as the ones seen in Canada?
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@ speeder69
have u ordered (and received) from speed dok?
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I have ordered the UK street speed deal with the 2 grams for 1BTC :) - I aint expecting the world! If a gram can perk me up a touch more than a few cups of coffee it will be worth it! Had to try that deal.
Also ordered some dexedrine - not used yet - but its speed of sorts, pure at least.
Was going to get 2 grams of some decent speed but the Afghan black 5 gram deal won me over and now brother my BTC wallet is empty and I have not got a bitcoin. ;)
Cannot wait for the post though.
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I hate weak speed more than anything else! It's like getting drunk with a 0.5% Vol beer... I'm tired of it. And the fact, that you are consuming 98% unknown shit isn't also very smart...
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You know what I was thinking? I read a few of these reviews here. One thing is certain, no one wants to do cut. Raise your hands if you don't want cut! ...... okay, that's pretty much everyone!
This idea worked for me on the streets when I was looking for good meth, amphetamine, crystal meth, etc. I always had some repore with whom ever I purchased from first. Like a cup a Joe at a quite coffee shop. And when I felt comfortable to talk to them about the product, I always said, 'I know you have to make money on this, or stash, which ever. So there are 2 ways to do that. Add cut or raise the price. Please, I only buy for personal. I am no competition to your sales. Please only give me your pure and I will pay not only the amount in weight of cut you were going to put in, but a tiny bit extra to guarantee me I get only pure."
Believe it or not, 4 out of 5 vendors would bring me the pure. It was always very expensive! But that's the deal if you want to do only pure. Pay for it! On the other hand, if you are fine with cut, I have several pounds to sell you on some beach front property on the moon! Come on people! Think about it! {snap! crackle! pop!)
Coming from a long line of 'bakers' as personal long time friends, I learned what the real deal, the pure stuff was, no matter whether meth, amphetamine, crystal meth, etc., I can't be fooled! Only 1 of those 5 dealers brought me this powdery looking bullshit and I didn't even touch it, took one look at the bag and I split.
Stay away from anyone in here or on the streets that sells items that in their picture looks like baking soda or any other 'powder'. And when they say say 50%, 60% or 80% pure - what ever, PM them and use the 'I only do pure ... what ever' and ask for it. Nicely!
When they say that is all they have, be polite and let them know, if they ever have the pure, you'll be the first to buy! Sure, it will be dry for a bit until they either go out of business not being able to sell their crap or come up with 'da kine!' But if everyone did that, there would be only pure on your table! I've had to wait around for years to get that! They are not going to give up cutting things easily.
From a chemistry point of view, these are all drugs. When you put anything with it - what ever - those are impurities and impurities hang their nasty little selves onto the molecules of the stuff you really want. That affects your high. Period! There is no way around that natural fact!
I have wrote this very message (from above) to every Euro (we're in the USA) vendor here of meth and/or amphetamine. And now we wait......
This method works!
Lastly, if you can't get the pure, if they (who ever you're buying from) can't get their people to ask for only pure with the same above method, don't buy any! Don't act like a little 'bitch/junkies' [(I've done it! It's always degrading, embarrasses and pisses you off in the end! And you don't get off any way!)] and buy their crap because you have a big weekend planned or a hot momma/man to take home and molest severely about the head and shoulders, because you just can't live with out it; stop buying cut and the cut will stop! People that sell dope can't have their product just sit there if no one bought it.
If we as community of 'go-fast' lovers hold that line, vendors that sell cut will stop cutting. If we don't make it worth their while though, why should they stop?
This method is tough! Takes strength and integrity - sacrifice! You know you are strong and you have integrity, right? And you CAN sacrifice!
Shrug? ???
And there it is there.
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^ HEAR! HEAR!
This is sound advice. I for one have taken a punt on a few vendors and only had one batch of speed from blatz0r that was around the quality in the description.
I simply won't buy off a vendor again if i feel i have been ripped off.
Got high hopes for der speed. Will write a review when i finally get to try it at some point
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Try my speed!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/24bb54ca7e
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well, maybe 10g are a bit too much for trying ;-)
what about a sample?
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I bought for ST 10g , will let you know when i receive it.. but i think its going to be super! hehe..
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Try my speed!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/24bb54ca7e
Would love to but not 10g for the first time with no reviews ;)
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Hi Guys I ordered from different vendors Amphetamine, here a really SUBJECTIVE Ranklist:
1. Dr.Amsterdam : really uncut stuff, great experience and quality very strong
2. Streetpharmacy/Speed Doctor: Great Stuff little bit weaker than Dr.A
3. Pillow Talk: more cut, but average stuff
4.Lat Batch from Jürgen: not very good, heavily cut stuff, End of the list, Hope the new Batch is better
I Have to say this is my subjective opinion and no offense to the guys above
Specifically, what type of "Speed/Amphetamine" did you purchase from them?
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You guys may want to list what type of "Speed/Amphetamines" you are referring to. There are a number of types of Amphetamines listed on Silk Road.
But, if you are referring to Methamphetamine, the best seller of Uncut Crystal Meth is, hands down and by far, DubG, and DubG is also one of, if no the best seller on the Silk Road.
His product's quality is ridiculously good, pure and free of any cuts. I'm not going to sit here and quote purity numbers like many people do, because there is no way that any of you know whether something is 99%, 96%, 90%, etc, pure, or whatever, so I'm not going to insult your intelligence.
I've seen some reports from people who say they've done as much as over half a gram of other product, or 1 gram over a short period of time, and not known if the product is good or not, or wondering if they should be feeling more, etc., and personally, I don't know how you could not know if something is good or not, but if you do .65g of DubG's product, you're gonna be flipping your shit out. If you order from DubG, pace yourself, and DO NOT TRY TO DO TOO MUCH AT ONCE! Do a few hits or small bump or whatever (under .10g) and sit and chill for a bit to see how you feel, then do a few more and WAIT FOR ABOUT 1-2 HOURS before doing any more. DubG's product is the purest, uncut product that I've ever had, and a little bit will last you a long time, and I'm talking several days for 1 g.
DubG's customer service is Top Notch, responding to emails always within 48 hours, and he's never been rude or impatient with my inquiries (and I had a lot of them). If there is ever a problem with an order, and this is rare, he is totally reasonable regarding resolution.
His packaging is crazy slick, and your mom could open up your package and not know there were illegal drugs in there. I have heard stories of sellers who don't take as much caution with shipping and packaging, and that scares me to be quite honest.
I wish we could clone DubG and have him sell every single product desired on Silk Road, because if we did, there would never be any problems with Silk Road. Some of you will doubt whether I am for real, but you will find out the first time you order from DubG and you get your product.
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Hi guys, Im here to give a ringing endorsement for her speed dokotor's speed. WARNING, long rambling post may follow! Hey what can I say, I'm high on his stuff now,and feel compelled to review, heh. I may facepalm myself later after reading this and take it down, so enjoy it while you can! (I picked my facepalm avatar for a reason!)
So umm An old friend rings up me this fine saturday morning. Wants to hang out and shoot the shit ( talk). So I have some Doktors stuff, and say to my friend hey you buy me breakfast and we can do lines of german speed afterwards (I actually don't tell my friends I use SR, they think I got a RL connection,heh). So after the meal we snort, and bang we are instantly re-enacting our favorite scenes for John Woos' movie Face off ( we actually saw this movie in the theatre together when it came out).
This stuff will make you want to strap on a pair of gold plated handguns and do slow motion gun duels with doves flying in the background, heh. The movie is so bad its good. We were shouting out Castor Troy lines like "WOOOOO!", and "I could eat a peach for hours..." LOL. Anyway jaw is going, and we are feeling fine. We plan to hit the gym and do some low impact cardio exercise machines later. Put our energy to good use ( I always wear a heart monitor and watch my intensity after exercising on a stim, don't want to give myself a stroke or heart attack, heh)
Ya know I always picture speed Doktor as the medic from the videogame TF2, and I'm the heavy saying, "Thank you doctor! You are Great!" LOL.
Ummm so Doktor's stuff is strong ( and stings so good), so I'd advise if you aren't hard core speed user to cut it somewhat with another cheaper listing in speed section on SR. Get that right blend of not too strong, not too weak.
TL;DR Doktor's stuff gets a 4 nasal blasts out of 4. Try him, you won't be disappointed! ( he has nothing listed right now I think, just look for when he does) "WOOOOOOOOO!!!! I'm Castor Troy! WOOOOOO!!! "
EDIT: sorry for all the silly goofyness of this post, but heck, at least I had a fun day ;D
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Speed tests are in!
AAkoven - bunk - 411mg/g caffeine, trace amounts of amph - http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=a2b77a8c53c0967cb3dc36e430f62a79.jpg
ADVERTISED AT 70% PURE
DRAmsterdam - 222mg / g amphetamine, 500mg/g caffeine - http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=e9d6a2d8ce255a2f1805b1e9ed40d634.jpg
Advertised at 30-35% pure
Juergen - Amphetamine 65mg/g | Methamphetamine 66mg/g | caffeine 230mg/g - http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=00a8e83fba622da92e0bf566c2c4fdc3.jpg
ADVERTISED AT 80% PURE - straight from the cook
CONTAINS METH
All credit goes to moz for testing - thanks moz
So in conclusion - AAkoven and Juergen flat out lie about their product. DRAmsterdam fudges the truth (advertises 30-35% pure lab tested, was actually 22%).
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Ummm so Doktor's stuff is strong ( and stings so good), so I'd advise if you aren't hard core speed user to cut it somewhat with another cheaper listing in speed section on SR. Get that right blend of not too strong, not too weak.
Why not... simply take a lower dose?
Well I guess its a personal preference really, but it can be a little to harsh to snort by itself, even in small amounts. I find that mixing it up makes it easier to snort(less 'soreness' and less sting) , if that makes any sense?
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@Aakoven probably should change the name of the listing of amphetamines to caffeine ROFL many noobs buy it and enjoy with this because of the ridiculously low price offered by @Aakoven and 73% lab tested was writing :D
edit: I've tested a sample of joopium's speed and I have to say it's pretty damn nice stuff in my opinion. Though I guess the '84% lab tested' should also be taken with a pinch of salt. I've mentioned before in a previous message that Dutch lab test results of amphetamine sulphate have a max. test result of about 73% because that's the maximum base equivalent when it's tested. (100mg completely pure amphetamine sulphate powder is equivalent to approx. 73mg liquid amphetamine base)
@Bonovic before this test, you said that aakoven has a very good product: xD
you need to learn to understand what these people say or write...
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and you were able to finally understand why you can not compare freebase to salt, and write that there is no amphetamine with higher purity than 73%?
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@Aakoven probably should change the name of the listing of amphetamines to caffeine ROFL many noobs buy it and enjoy with this because of the ridiculously low price offered by @Aakoven and 73% lab tested was writing :D
i bought some of aakoven's stuff in early january and that particular batch was pretty good, haven't tried the newer batches though.
i'm kind of hesitant to try new vendors because the overall quality of speed here on silk road seems to be quite low. the best i've had here so far was from dramsterdam.
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always the same shit lab tested blablabla so where is a screen showing result of this test ?vendors was cheating and it is not the only case but throws very eyes :/ I know that everyone would want to have pure uncut and in a very attractive price, but it is not possible for a good cause,smart cooker will never be sold 1g baggies ROFL, goods must pass through several hands before it goes to us.
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Great to see some actual test results.
I posted a few pages back saying that AA's stuff was SHITE. He was quick to jump on me and tell me im a troll. The results speak for themselves. I've tried both AAs and juergons and surprise surprise, they are both junk!
der speed doc is my last hope....Will write a review soon.
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I got a sample of GotMilk's 90%+ amphetamine, and I believe it's the real deal. I gave some to a friend who's a bit of speedhead and he couldn't believe it's really amphetamine, because it's so potent:)
If you're looking for pure amphetamine check out GotMilk, and, please, be careful with it!
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I received some of ST amphetamine, it looks like advertised, it has a potent smell of amphetamine and is paste.
I will update when tested, also will send some to lab-test.! Keep you updated. But so far-- so good!!
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Anyone else thoughts on medical grade amphetamine from juergen?
I tried it, it is indeed very potent but after i heared the news about meth in the 80% one ....
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Anyone else thoughts on medical grade amphetamine from juergen?
I tried it, it is indeed very potent but after i heared the news about meth in the 80% one ....
I wouldn't trust the guy, or even buy from him even if I was sure he had good product. If you knowingly lie to someone about what's in your drugs, they instantly lose all credibility to me and deserve to lose all business.
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Never received AA's speed. My guess is it was the smell in the packaging that has been mentioned. He agreed to reship 50% although I'm slightly skeptical now that I've seen the test results.
However I just got some 99.5% acetone and I'm going to try washing it, to see if all it has is really just caffeine.
I did a water wash of Blaatzors and got some very nice fluffy crystals formed from the filtrate (although I lost a lot of product)
Insufflated 100mg and it felt pretty solid. No more ammonia scent either. Will update when I've washed the crystals with acetone as well.
I got Amsterdope's in the mail (very discreet packaging) and will post as soon as I've tried it.
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Just to say there is another AA who is Afghan Apothecary - this guy has good ratings and I defended him as feedback seems good and sometimes we need a balance.
This AA has a classic deal with 2 grams of 'UK street speed' for 1 BTC. Its not bicarb! I had to go for it and it smells like the usual not that great stuff. I have not been able to test it out and given a choice of taking Ivorys MDMA or testing a speed which will likely fade after a few pints or worse - keep me up till 5.00am - it looks like the former if I have a treat this Easter.
Anyone going a report on the 2 grams for 1 BTC would be good. Feedback does have some way they were surprised at how good it was and with the recent results here of speed it would be kinda funny if this speed matched the supposed really pure ones!
I mean 76% pure speed you would expect to be unable to feel a thing off chain smoking weed! (unlike coke) and could drink as much as the biggest beer monster. Speed that pure would keep me up for 48 hrs - that was the usual weekend with the good UK street speed in the 80s. A lot was good - some of it extremely strong but we never thought to stash a kilo when it was cheap as hell considering the price commanded for pure speed now. Surely anyone with even 50% pure speed could get the solvents needed to get rid of most of the bulk in that speed. Isolating any meth would be difficult though.
For me - taking speed ought to be at least looking at an entire weekend partying. I knew guys who would work 48 hrs and that was the week done! Recovery takes a day if the speed is well made. I guess adding meth would mean you would be even more hung over. Not used meth but imagine its just like good speed only something that is taken in smaller doses.
I guess the medical grade speed seems the best but the price! I suppose if 100mg done you for a day then it may be worth it. I would also hope it had a clean comedown - not as rought as the usual stuff. Speed can really hit you hard and leave you feeling waylaid for a few days. Younger people cope easily but many over 30 will know more about the comedown off stimulants. MDMA differs. That is an amphetamine also but too much of an emotional empathic side to it for anyone to study or work a 48 hr shift in construction.
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Haha, I can only begin to imagine trying to do anything construction like on MDMA, stroking the scaffolding and tumbling nuts and bolts from one hand to the other. I spent 2008 taking low doses of speed through the week to work and it was great. never tried anything so strong that weed had no effect, but spent a good few nights drinking and it having no effect until passing clean out.
On topic, I got 5g of AAkoven's shit which i regret completely. quick delivery but its not amphetamine.
also bought 1g of AfghanApothecary's speed and waiting for that to appear. can't be any worse!
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I've just received an amphetamine from gotmilk. It suppose to be over 90% and ... I believe it!
That shit is really powerful and I needed like almost twice less stuff than normally to get really high and I'm getting good amphetamine anyway.
Gotmilk stuff is a real deal. A little to expensive for me to purchase it on standard bases but if you wanna purest amphetamine possible - It's Gotmilks.
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So whos amphetamine is real? whats the conclusion on speed doctors?
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Speed tests are in!
AAkoven - bunk - 411mg/g caffeine, trace amounts of amph - http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=a2b77a8c53c0967cb3dc36e430f62a79.jpg
ADVERTISED AT 70% PURE
Is anyone else at all skeptical of this? The only way I could possibly believe this is if the test was on the very cheap stuff he was selling a few months back (and which he admitted was crap). I regularly use the product AAkoven has been selling since the beginning of February or thereabouts. I also use caffeine daily (don't we all?). I always knew the "73%" claim was a lie, however I continue to buy his speed as as he is very efficient and reliable, and the product represents good value for money.
I can quite easily, and often do, take around 0.5g of AA's speed at a time (hence knowing the purity claim wasn't true - this wouldn't be possible otherwise), and thoroughly enjoy it. However, if I were to take getting on for 400mg of caffeine (which is what I would be doing if I took this size of dose at around the same time as I have my strong afternoon coffee), then I would NOT enjoy it. Trust me. I had to stop making my coffees so strong as they were making me anxious and giving me high blood pressure. I sometimes take caffeine pills, and 200mg is about the maximum I could take without feeling shitty.
Considering I do often take speed shortly before or after drinking strong coffee....well, the only conclusion I can come to is that this "test" is wrong.
I am not accusing the OP of lying - it could be a mix-up, a government conspiracy(!)...who knows. But I am not a "noob" to speed in any sense. And after about 15 years of daily use, I am definitely not a noob to caffeine either! AAkoven's speed is certainly not half caffeine. In a way I wish it was, as then I would realise that it was just some kind of crazy placebo effect all along and just stop taking the stuff! But it isn't. That is a fact. It is not blow-your-head off amazing either, but it contains more amphetamine-per-bitcoin than any other I have found on SR so far, and that's really all I care about.
I'm sure there must be other regular buyers who will back me up on this. All that this so-called "lab-testing" (whether by sellers or buyers) seems to do is confuse the issue. Make your own mind up!
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Do you snort the speed or take it orally? Because I'm sure snorting caffeine powder would produce a different high than drinking it.
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Did anyone try abzu's Amphetamines sulfate? Seems like its the real deal.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c8db779d49
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Do you snort the speed or take it orally? Because I'm sure snorting caffeine powder would produce a different high than drinking it.
Usually orally. Occasionally snorted. I am also very familiar with the taste and smell of both amphetamines and pure caffeine. Trust me - these "tests" (or at least this one) is bogus. I'm not even sure why I'm weighing in here...just hate misinformation.
Note that AAkoven himself isn't bothering to comment. I would imagine this is because he is too busy satisfying orders from speed-freaks and doesn't have time to argue against all the people trying to take his business! (Again, I don't know if this was the poster's intention or not, please don't take this as an accusation).
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I have the actual speed doktor paste here- I'm very satisfied with that. Also I'm no amph. noob I've difficulties in snooping out the degree of purity? Someone guesses it's about 30-40%.
My question:
the paste makes it difficult to snore that stuff. I keep the paste in the freezer and ask myself if there's a possibility to dry a portion (~ 50 mg) and then snore it? Or switching completely to oral consum? Otherwise I#M snoring more crumbs than a powder (actually)? Any tips for using the paste efficiency?
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Doesn'T the paste get "snortable" very fast as soon as you take it out?
my 70% paste does that ;)
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Hi guys, Im here to give a ringing endorsement for her speed dokotor's speed. WARNING, long rambling post may follow! Hey what can I say, I'm high on his stuff now,and feel compelled to review, heh. I may facepalm myself later after reading this and take it down, so enjoy it while you can! (I picked my facepalm avatar for a reason!)
So umm An old friend rings up me this fine saturday morning. Wants to hang out and shoot the shit ( talk). So I have some Doktors stuff, and say to my friend hey you buy me breakfast and we can do lines of german speed afterwards (I actually don't tell my friends I use SR, they think I got a RL connection,heh). So after the meal we snort, and bang we are instantly re-enacting our favorite scenes for John Woos' movie Face off ( we actually saw this movie in the theatre together when it came out).
This stuff will make you want to strap on a pair of gold plated handguns and do slow motion gun duels with doves flying in the background, heh. The movie is so bad its good. We were shouting out Castor Troy lines like "WOOOOO!", and "I could eat a peach for hours..." LOL. Anyway jaw is going, and we are feeling fine. We plan to hit the gym and do some low impact cardio exercise machines later. Put our energy to good use ( I always wear a heart monitor and watch my intensity after exercising on a stim, don't want to give myself a stroke or heart attack, heh)
Ya know I always picture speed Doktor as the medic from the videogame TF2, and I'm the heavy saying, "Thank you doctor! You are Great!" LOL.
Ummm so Doktor's stuff is strong ( and stings so good), so I'd advise if you aren't hard core speed user to cut it somewhat with another cheaper listing in speed section on SR. Get that right blend of not too strong, not too weak.
TL;DR Doktor's stuff gets a 4 nasal blasts out of 4. Try him, you won't be disappointed! ( he has nothing listed right now I think, just look for when he does) "WOOOOOOOOO!!!! I'm Castor Troy! WOOOOOO!!! "
EDIT: sorry for all the silly goofyness of this post, but heck, at least I had a fun day ;D
+1 for this! Der speed doc is the fucking man. Totally underestimated the dose and it kicked my fucking ass. Have dried some out and snorted it. Harsh burn, but definitely does the trick. Call me a troll, call me a vendor, call me whatever, take this how you want, but i can safely say this is BY FAR the best speed ive tried on SR, although in all fairness i haven't tried dr amsterdams 60%.
I don't see any point of looking else where now, he has a loyal customer!
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so i got my 5g from aakoven and i have to say it was a little disappointing after his claim of such a high purity but it was better than the stuff he previously sent me. That said, I am gonna have to side with bambpot on those test results - i used to be a heavy coffee drinker but stopped completely about 1 year ago and there is no way there is that much caffeine in aakoven's product. If it had that much caffeine I would have most definitely gotten jittery, an upset stomach, and would have had to take a massive dump right after ingesting almost 1gram in less than an hour.
On the other side of that argument though is the fact that i should not have to take nearly 1 or 2 grams of something with that high a purity to keep me up for just a night. My dealer in germany used to sell me 1 gram of pure lab amphetamine for 10euros. On 1 gram i could stay up 2 days easily so if his stuff is truly 70% pure I shouldn't need more than 1.4grams of it to stay up the same amount of time.
so where does this leave me - i think right back at the beginning almost. We still don't have a good source of speed here on sr and there is no way in hell i am paying that much for the lab grade stuff being sold. Also I am tired of hearing the excuses about how great the speed was back in the day and now it's all gone to shit - to that i say you aren't looking hard enough and need a better connection. My dealer still gets this lab stuff and sells it for $10euros a gram but the only problem is that i no longer live in germany and he won't ship here. Same goes for the coke dealers here on sr charging outrageous prices with excuses about how cartels cut product, etc.. to that i say get higher up in the food chain and stop buying shit. I can still get a gram of pure columbian champagne ( dominican term ) for $20-25 a gram.
So in conclusion i am sticking to meth. We're lucky to have a great dealer like heisenburg who has consistently great product and at reasonable prices. In all honesty I guess I won't be buying speed again until someone gets something near the quality I got when living in europe and from the looks of it I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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Also as an aside, does anyone notice that the speed listing on the side menu is always disappearing randomly from the SR site? It's been missing the entire afternoon.
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Also as an aside, does anyone notice that the speed listing on the side menu is always disappearing randomly from the SR site? It's been missing the entire afternoon.
Unclick the domestic button for listings, It gets "stuck or switched on" time to time.
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hi guys, at this moment, what is the seller who has the best amphetamine / speed to be sniffed?
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tryina decide who to order 10gs off, der speed doktor or joopium? what's their quality/service like? read through forums, joopiums paste looks nice and potent but der speed doktors got a lot more sales under his belt, so would I be better off ordering from der speed doktor? im in aus.
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Man I hate to sound like a 'kiss up", BUT I love der speed doktors stuff, And I will continue to sing his praises, That stuff is just so good. Let me tell you first time I did his stuff I overshot thinking it was weak stuff, and I was up for 2 whole days, I shit you not, A little goes a long way if you have low tolerance. I have yet to hear from anyone who bought his stuff and use it post a bad review here. That's got to count for something.
( Sorry for any rambling, actually Im high on 4-fa right now, heh RCs are fun to play with too)
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I might have to go with Der Speed Doktor then just to be safe since he's got more sales under his belt... but I'll definitely be trying Joopium when/if he gets some more feedback.
EDIT: Just decided to get 10 grams of speed from each of Der Speed Doktor, Joopium and Amsterdope. I'll test em and see what they're like and the service that I received also.
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... what about the pep from "abzu" ? he seems to have also a great service due to his amazing feedback? --- and amphetamine sulphate freebase --- also doesn't sound bad? ha? i'm gonna report on his stuff very soon, because i've got the impression that this vendor, is one who really takes professionalism seriously!
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so i got my 5g from aakoven and i have to say it was a little disappointing after his claim of such a high purity but it was better than the stuff he previously sent me. That said, I am gonna have to side with bambpot on those test results - i used to be a heavy coffee drinker but stopped completely about 1 year ago and there is no way there is that much caffeine in aakoven's product. If it had that much caffeine I would have most definitely gotten jittery, an upset stomach, and would have had to take a massive dump right after ingesting almost 1gram in less than an hour.
On the other side of that argument though is the fact that i should not have to take nearly 1 or 2 grams of something with that high a purity to keep me up for just a night. My dealer in germany used to sell me 1 gram of pure lab amphetamine for 10euros. On 1 gram i could stay up 2 days easily so if his stuff is truly 70% pure I shouldn't need more than 1.4grams of it to stay up the same amount of time.
"no way there is that much caffeine in aakoven's product" why do you think that? in almost every speed you will find a decent amount of caffeine. i tried aakovens speed several times, it was always the same: no amphetamine at all! any user who ever had some real amphetamine knows the smell/taste and consistency of it. let aakovens speed dry completely! let some real speed dry completely! you will see the difference, the speed with amphetamine will still be oily and a bit fluffy while aakovens caffeine speed gets bone-dry and you will have to crush it..
but if you like his speed i think that's great for you, just get your daily coffee/caffeine via nose
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... --- and amphetamine sulphate freebase --- also doesn't sound bad?
It should be described as amphetamine sulphate (wo freebase) and not both, because amphetamine freebase is an oily substance and amphetamine is usualy sold as sulphate salt.
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so i got my 5g from aakoven and i have to say it was a little disappointing after his claim of such a high purity but it was better than the stuff he previously sent me. That said, I am gonna have to side with bambpot on those test results - i used to be a heavy coffee drinker but stopped completely about 1 year ago and there is no way there is that much caffeine in aakoven's product. If it had that much caffeine I would have most definitely gotten jittery, an upset stomach, and would have had to take a massive dump right after ingesting almost 1gram in less than an hour.
On the other side of that argument though is the fact that i should not have to take nearly 1 or 2 grams of something with that high a purity to keep me up for just a night. My dealer in germany used to sell me 1 gram of pure lab amphetamine for 10euros. On 1 gram i could stay up 2 days easily so if his stuff is truly 70% pure I shouldn't need more than 1.4grams of it to stay up the same amount of time.
"no way there is that much caffeine in aakoven's product" why do you think that? in almost every speed you will find a decent amount of caffeine. i tried aakovens speed several times, it was always the same: no amphetamine at all! any user who ever had some real amphetamine knows the smell/taste and consistency of it. let aakovens speed dry completely! let some real speed dry completely! you will see the difference, the speed with amphetamine will still be oily and a bit fluffy while aakovens caffeine speed gets bone-dry and you will have to crush it..
but if you like his speed i think that's great for you, just get your daily coffee/caffeine via nose
Here is a guy he dont know shit...But like to ad negative comment End tell it So.!!.
There is no caffeine at all in my speed.
Test it....tale a spoon, put little in, with water make it warm..let is cool off...if u see residue there u have it.!!
many trolls, en donks here... Am sick off it every time..come here...
Only the speed freaks..make me wonder , do it effect ` the brain..? ;)
AA 8)
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Okay I gotta give a review of Amsterdope's speed.
This stuff is strong. Last week I took 50mg insufflated + 20mg oral to study. At 40% this would be about 30mg Amphetamine and I don't doubt it. Minutes after doing a line I felt incredibly live. I studied for a few hours straight with minimal lapses in focus.
70mg was actually too much for studying. I was studying hard at first but it got too intense and I became super talkative and felt very confident for some reason. Had no appetite but no problems eating either.
There is no way this is caffeine, I'm a seasoned coffee drinker and I can go to sleep anytime I want after a cup or two of coffee.
I did the 70mg as a 40mg nasal/20mg oral starter at 5pm and 10mg bump at 8pm. At 8 it hit me so hard that I felt my head buzzing, a very nice warm & invigorated feeling. (I imagine this is the dopamine that speedheads crave but I don't want to fuck up my brain too bad so I'm sticking to lower doses than that now). I smoked a few bowls with friends and went to bed at 4am. Despite having only 5 hrs sleep the night before and the weed I could not fall asleep. I knew I was tired but I wasn't sleepy. I didn't have any benzos left so I rolled around for about an hour before I fell asleep.
My one and only concern is that since I'm not experienced with stims it could actually be meth like juergen's stuff or perhaps some research chemical.
Took 60mg early today and I'm still going strong, great stuff.
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"no way there is that much caffeine in aakoven's product" why do you think that? in almost every speed you will find a decent amount of caffeine. i tried aakovens speed several times, it was always the same: no amphetamine at all! any user who ever had some real amphetamine knows the smell/taste and consistency of it. let aakovens speed dry completely! let some real speed dry completely! you will see the difference, the speed with amphetamine will still be oily and a bit fluffy while aakovens caffeine speed gets bone-dry and you will have to crush it..
but if you like his speed i think that's great for you, just get your daily coffee/caffeine via nose
This is such, utter, bullshit! If you really, honestly, think that I, and all the others who regularly buy aakoven's speed, cannot tell the difference between caffeine and amphetamines...well, no comment.
As I've said before people: I would ignore the vast majority of what is written here. Half of the people who diss someone's product are other dealers, or friends of other dealers. About half of the remainder just have sky-high tolerance and are upset they can't have the good times they used to off the same amounts. Then there are the people who are just paranoid cos they take too much of the stuff. Maybe once in every 10 posts you'll get a reliable comment...but how do we know which is which?
Personally I've just become completely skeptical of everything that's written here - I don't believe a word of it till I try the stuff myself. I suggest you all do likewise.
There's a reason it's called the RUMOUR mill! I'm outta here.
PS - notice this guy says he "tried aakovens speed several times, it was always the same: no amphetamine at all!". What kind of fool would keep ordering caffeine?! If you're gonna shill, then at least try and make it vaguely believable.
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This is such, utter, bullshit! If you really, honestly, think that I, and all the others who regularly buy aakoven's speed, cannot tell the difference between caffeine and amphetamines...well, no comment.
As I've said before people: I would ignore the vast majority of what is written here. Half of the people who diss someone's product are other dealers, or friends of other dealers. About half of the remainder just have sky-high tolerance and are upset they can't have the good times they used to off the same amounts. Then there are the people who are just paranoid cos they take too much of the stuff. Maybe once in every 10 posts you'll get a reliable comment...but how do we know which is which?
Personally I've just become completely skeptical of everything that's written here - I don't believe a word of it till I try the stuff myself. I suggest you all do likewise.
There's a reason it's called the RUMOUR mill! I'm outta here.
PS - notice this guy says he "tried aakovens speed several times, it was always the same: no amphetamine at all!". What kind of fool would keep ordering caffeine?! If you're gonna shill, then at least try and make it vaguely believable.
and why are you and aakoven running crazy because of my review now? believe it or not, i don't give a shit about your thoughts! i only want to exchange my experience (with speed from sr) and support other customers.
Personally I've just become completely skeptical of everything that's written here - I don't believe a word of it till I try the stuff myself
are you serious? you are vouching here for speed that you have never tried yourself? that's the way to do it! then come back and we will talk again.
you guys are just a bit paranoid Only the speed freaks..make me wonder , do it effect ` the brain..?
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If you read my post again, you'll see that I said I buy his stuff regularly. That's how I know that you're flat-out lying.
You are not exchanging any experience...you said you bought it "several times" and it contained "no amphetamine at all". Even if I hadn't tried it, I would be able to tell instantly that this was a blatant lie. People lying like this, for whatever motive, are just as bad as the scammers, and should be banned in my opinion. Unfortunately the admin have no way of knowing, as it's one person's word against another, and anyone can weigh in on these forums.
So instead people like you are just dragging Silk Road down to street-style turf wars...not in the spirit of the place. That's why I'm "running crazy".
Last post from me - don't think this is contributing to the discussion, so if you want to continue to argue then PM me.
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hi guys , who they are, in your experience, the top 3 sellers of amphetamine by sniffing ?
1 = ?
2 = ?
3 = ?
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I must add some info on the product I received yesterday: "ICE" speed pills purchased from MrOuid. Also available from a few other vendors in Canada.
This stuff is great and it seems like pure amphetamine or dextroamphetamine. I didn't detect any meth in it, so if there is any its an insignificant amount. Easy to snort, awesome to eat. These pills are BOMB!
To compare with my extensive pharmaceutical amp experience, I would say each pill is equal to 30-40mg of pharm-grade dextroamphetamine.
After finding these (especially since they're domestic for me) my search for a good speed supply is over!
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I must add some info on the product I received yesterday: "ICE" speed pills purchased from MrOuid. Also available from a few other vendors in Canada.
This stuff is great and it seems like pure amphetamine or dextroamphetamine. I didn't detect any meth in it, so if there is any its an insignificant amount. Easy to snort, awesome to eat. These pills are BOMB!
To compare with my extensive pharmaceutical amp experience, I would say each pill is equal to 30-40mg of pharm-grade dextroamphetamine.
After finding these (especially since they're domestic for me) my search for a good speed supply is over!
When MrOuid first started selling the ICE pills they were listed in meth section, so they do contain meth, just letting you know. And I've purchased his pills and used before ,and I agree that they are good.
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I am back with some info about Supertrips amphetamine.
My costumers loved it , ordered some more :D:D !
I the other hand I am still waiting for lab result.Will post them as soon as i know them :D Its a good analysis so it takes some time. But i think its gonna be good.
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I must say Der Speeddoktors Amphe is great! Its really strong and needs to carefully dosed!
Its a bit too wet for my choice but much better than Dry and weak! ;)
It came´s vacuum sealed and wen i opened it the whole Kitchen was filled with that great smell that let me felt in Memories of the mid. 90`s ! ;)
I think its the Money worth what he wants for it!
A returning Costumer !!! :P
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in proportion of milligrams, how would you say regular speed stacks up to adderall?
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I today got the paste from Speed Doktor and I have to agree that it's great stuff.
Detailed feedback in his seller thread.
But i have a question:
Unfortunately the inner bag burst and i had to scrape the stuff out and dried it all together.
As it dried quickly at room temperature the wet part of the paste is probably some kind of solvent. If this is the case I don't get why this is sold as a sticky paste and not just dried easy-to-handle powder (which I got after some minutes of drying.
Some people are claiming the paste is more potent if not dried... but this is bullshit isn't it? The only way it would be more potent is if it actually contains amphetamine base in addition to the sulfate salt. That's unlikely in my opinion as the base would make the mixture appear yellow and would not evaporate off so quickly at room temperature.
So... why the messy paste? Someone knows?
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Anyone tried The Flying Dutchman's phet?
Considering buying some and giving it a go since Speed Doktor's listings are gone
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When MrOuid first started selling the ICE pills they were listed in meth section, so they do contain meth, just letting you know. And I've purchased his pills and used before ,and I agree that they are good.
Thanks for the info! I do feel that it feels far more like amphetamine than meth (when comparing dex with meth; both taken orally). What would you say the proportion felt like to you?
in proportion of milligrams, how would you say regular speed stacks up to adderall?
Considering the doses that Adderall is sold under are for the pure amount of amph, if you were getting pure amphetamine (not sure what % consitutes this), it would be very close. Now the problem lies in the chemical proportion. Adderall is 75% dextroamphetamine and 25% levoamphetamine. I believe (though I'm not certain) that both isomers are equally proportioned (50% d-amph, 50% l-amph) in pure amphetamine. Of course as is the case for dex and addies, this can be modified if a chemist wanted to.
So, although I can't guarantee it, I believe that 10mg Adderall = 7-10mg "pure" amphetamine. I lowered the dose to 8mg for amph because d-amph is known to be more potent. Either way, I don't think you'll get non-pharmaceutical amph with the same proportion as Adderall.
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any user who ever had some real amphetamine knows the smell/taste and consistency of it. let aakovens speed dry completely! let some real speed dry completely! you will see the difference, the speed with amphetamine will still be oily and a bit fluffy while aakovens caffeine speed gets bone-dry and you will have to crush it..
this is just not true. the pure amphetamine i used to get in germany was rock hard and had to be crushed in order to be snorted. also i have been doing speed for about 15 years and have enough experience to differentiate caffeine from amphetamine silly poster...
also bampot in the future a good way to filter out trolls is to check how many posts a user has. rthewall only has 3 posts so i wouldn't take him too seriously. i really hope we can get this thread as informative as the meth one soon, the info is spot on there.
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Got some speed (2g base paste) from - dmtdoodeelsd
Haven't got an scales but amount looked right. Had a little test and its nice stuff,
subjectively feels strong so no reason to doubt the advertised strength.
Seller seems to be on SR daily and was responsive to my questions.
Also keeps website up to date to give general notices.
so thumbs up from me
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Just got some ICE pills from the new seller Fanny Hill and I'm impressed at their quality and how nice these fuckers look. I don't do stims a lot, but I get very amped off of half of one for several hours. I like it more than adderall and it feels pretty clean. Fanny Hill gave me extras--not to mention that his are already a better price than anyone else's. I'd recommend these for a study aid or even for getting through a long night of partying.
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I have ordered 'amphetamine' from 3 vendors on SR. In all Fairness the stuff from the dutch vendor in holland has not yet arrived. I would recommend being a little paranoid about ordering direct from holland if u live in a country with tough customs.
The other speed that I have purchased from SR was the WORST I have ever tried, both came from vendors in mainland west europe, packaging was fine and transport time was rapid. QUALITY was a joke.
If it wasn't for some of the insanely good pharmaceutical quality drugs I have received from googleyed and a few other vendors (unfortunately not amphetamine vendors) I would have sworn SilkRoad was an elaborate financial scam... I am sure there are a few decent speed vendors on this site...the majority are not.
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zxy9753 care to name them? how are we supposed to know better if you're not specific... 80% of amph vendors here, are from mainland west europe -.-
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I'm not sure how it works how ever there is a buyer rating system of some sort where your record as a customer is quantified and made available to the vendors. There are some exceptional vendors on this site who i don't want to get a bad rep with...just not of amphetamine unfortunately. In fact i would avoid the entire 'speed/amphetamine' scene on this site.
I pay upfront, immediately, I have offered to pay extra for the 'uncut' shit etc etc all to on avail. The garbage I have received has truly shocked me.... if u pulled that shit on the streets u would get knifed (.) Half the clowns on this site are 17yr pimply faced punks pulling scams. It's like diamond mining u have to shift thru mega-tonnes shit of to find a sparkler.
PM me and I will give u the names of 'speed' dealers who have personally fucked me.
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I'm not sure how it works how ever there is a buyer rating system of some sort where your record as a customer is quantified and made available to the vendors. There are some exceptional vendors on this site who i don't want to get a bad rep with...just not of amphetamine unfortunately. In fact i would avoid the entire 'speed/amphetamine' scene on this site.
I pay upfront, immediately, I have offered to pay extra for the 'uncut' shit etc etc all to on avail. The garbage I have received has truly shocked me.... if u pulled that shit on the streets u would get knifed (.) Half the clowns on this site are 17yr pimply faced punks pulling scams. It's like diamond mining u have to shift thru mega-tonnes shit of to find a sparkler.
PM me and I will give u the names of 'speed' dealers who have personally fucked me.
zxy9753
Just name and shame. If we don't have trust in vendors then we may as well buy from the street. That's what I believe SR should be about - trust.
If the vendors aren't supplying what they are advertising then tell everyone about it so no-one else can be scammed. Nobody on here minds paying a little extra for quality. What they do mind is paying extra for shit.
Kick the scammers out and let the trusted vendors make the money supplying quality product. The scammers couldn't give a shit about you, you shouldn't give a shit about them.
NM
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Just got some ICE pills from the new seller Fanny Hill and I'm impressed at their quality and how nice these fuckers look. I don't do stims a lot, but I get very amped off of half of one for several hours. I like it more than adderall and it feels pretty clean. Fanny Hill gave me extras--not to mention that his are already a better price than anyone else's. I'd recommend these for a study aid or even for getting through a long night of partying.
Although I have not purchased my ICE speed pills from Fanny Hill (They are most likely manufactured by the same supplier), I absolutely agree with your statement, and I myself much prefer them to adderall (not a fan of the d-amph:l-amph ratio), and find them to feel like dextroamphetamine with a very small amount of meth.
Regarding Fanny Hill, I chose not to purchase from him after sending a message and getting no response (although the message was read). The question was about the contents of the pills, and as a new seller he should've responded to me. I chose not to support someone with such low service standards from my experience. I also think how his listings are written primarily in Spanish and secondary in English is stupid from a business perspective. Here on SR the vast majority speak English, and I have not encountered Spanish once... Especially considering he is a Canadian vendor ???
Glad you got your shit and like it though! :D This stuff is pretty much the only hard drug I need, as it has many uses and doesn't get me "fucked" (dex is 4x as expensive dose for dose it seems).
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yeah xyz9753, if you get junk (or great product) from vendors this is the place to post it
@Regicide agreed--fanny hill wasn't on the ball regarding responses initially. i think i didn't get a response for a couple of days, but they addressed it and apologized in a message and on their vendor page. if i remember correctly they weren't quite ready and got overwhelmed by all the messages they got in their first week. you probably won't get any info regarding what is actually in the pills, i've asked two vendors and searched around pill reports as well and it seems that no one wants to give away their recipe or they don't actually know. i've heard people say caffeine, amph, and some meth...i don't think there was any meth because i've never been able to fall asleep 5 or 6 hours after taking ANY amount of meth.
they hooked me up w/some free pills though to make up for it and seem to be getting the hang of things now I think. the spanish translations are weird though and at least need to be spaced out better so they aren't jumbled in with the english.
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I today got the paste from Speed Doktor and I have to agree that it's great stuff.
Detailed feedback in his seller thread.
But i have a question:
Unfortunately the inner bag burst and i had to scrape the stuff out and dried it all together.
As it dried quickly at room temperature the wet part of the paste is probably some kind of solvent. If this is the case I don't get why this is sold as a sticky paste and not just dried easy-to-handle powder (which I got after some minutes of drying.
Some people are claiming the paste is more potent if not dried... but this is bullshit isn't it? The only way it would be more potent is if it actually contains amphetamine base in addition to the sulfate salt. That's unlikely in my opinion as the base would make the mixture appear yellow and would not evaporate off so quickly at room temperature.
So... why the messy paste? Someone knows?
Anyone got a sensible answer to this one? received second order from the doktor today and would like re-assurance that the decline in quality of my first order was purely due to increasing tolerance!
Thanks
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I today got the paste from Speed Doktor and I have to agree that it's great stuff.
Detailed feedback in his seller thread.
But i have a question:
Unfortunately the inner bag burst and i had to scrape the stuff out and dried it all together.
As it dried quickly at room temperature the wet part of the paste is probably some kind of solvent. If this is the case I don't get why this is sold as a sticky paste and not just dried easy-to-handle powder (which I got after some minutes of drying.
Some people are claiming the paste is more potent if not dried... but this is bullshit isn't it? The only way it would be more potent is if it actually contains amphetamine base in addition to the sulfate salt. That's unlikely in my opinion as the base would make the mixture appear yellow and would not evaporate off so quickly at room temperature.
So... why the messy paste? Someone knows?
Anyone got a sensible answer to this one? received second order from the doktor today and would like re-assurance that the decline in quality of my first order was purely due to increasing tolerance!
Thanks
For sensible explanations im afraid you came to the wrong place, after 25 pages im also left wondering on a couple of things myself. oh well, weird community. But, at the very least you could elaborate as you're also being overly blunt and not quite specific.
How much are you doing a week and are you doing any binges? what routes of ingestion are the most common ?
Knowing the above there could be someone that could potentially answer your question even w/o knowing the product itself since you've already indicated that your tolerance might be an issue here.
Im only saying...
peace
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Apologies for putting it a bit short, thought that pachang had already said what I wanted to say. But now I feel like you have invited me to ramble:
I generally snort speed. got 5g over a month ago, and upon sampling the still relatively wet product was very impressed by quality (hence re-ordering recently). Have some past experience with speed but not huge amount (acquired a taste for it recently though). The doktor's is certainly some of the best I've tried. I wasn't sure how best to store it, I had heard that speed sometimes degrades over time (and the fact the Doktor stores his stash in freezer seemed to confirm this), anyway freezer was not really a viable option for me. So over the course of a few days the shit dried out, until it became rock solid and brittle. am I supposed to just dry out the whole lot before taking any? (I now think the answer is yes) over the course of about two-three weeks I worked my way through the 5g - it wasn't binging in the sense of really getting on it for a few nights, more a case of frequent but steady use over a couple of weeks. I wasn't saying that the shit didn't work by the end...just that it wasn't as magical as the first few days and my logical assumption there is just tolerance (as with most substances) - except that I had these doubts about storage (sampled my second order yesterday - and magic returned). Is there a purpose for suppliers not to dry out their shit, other than cashing in on the extra weight? It doesn't bother me when the quality is good (as I think it is in this case) - except that it can be quite messy to unpack!
I'll use this opportunity to summarise my opinion of SR speed so far:
Blaatz0r - cheap so no complaints - well ahead of UK street speed I have sampled locally.
AfghanApothecary - even cheaper! seemed to be on a par with what you might get on street -slightly irritating to snort, felt some effect but not prominent enough. Again, no complaints -even if this was nothing but caffeine it was still cheaper than star-bucks! Der Speed Doktor: Right, so this is why people do speed!?! stimulating, euphoric - feeling horny as hell (anyone got a cure for stim-dick?). Joopium: awaiting arrival of order.
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arozue - thank you, this is much better, I like how you got in-depth, this is how i would have expected at least half of the replies in this particular topic to be made, unfortunately nobody really gives a fuck and you often see unfinished sentences made out of 5 words total with Zero informational value...quite irritating.
Now I would still love to know how much you dose yourself, because personally I think 5g for a month is a bit too much, I like to keep it low, twice a week, once for a tasking day at the office and one for a sweet party during the weekend, but according to my rough measurements that is still only about ~200mg give or take a few, -> that is for a week!... well, the fact remains we are all different I suppose, if it works out for you all the better :)
The wet paste thing has been bugging me for some time as well, unfortunately I have no fucking idea what purposes does it serve and why do I have to keep the stuff refrigerated and simply, why can't they ship it to me dried, oh well, as long as the amph. is good I don't care as much.
As for the stim dick, thats a good one, you either just gotta keep the dosages lower OR get your hands on some cialis and kamagra, viagra or w/e of sorts - trust me, these are the only viable options to fight the constricted blood vessels :)
bonkovic - I kinda agree that some of the vendors probably don't have the full knowledge of what process / extraction / conversion was used to produce the stuff they sell, but still you often come across recommendations such as 'to keep paste refrigerated' etc. right? now this is as i've stated above, way beyond me, as I understand it, amphetamine is a pretty stable molecule and shouldn't degrade under normal room conditions....[stressing the 'normal' here]. I would appreciate someone with a better insight to post here, clarifying some of the questions, but even taking matters into own hands could be quite rewarding, which is why I suggest heading to bluelight or drugs forum :)
Anyway, also many thanks for the input about the vendors.
I've personally only had DRamsterdam's speed once, while I complained about its smell and fluffiness of sorts, It was quite good.
Next vendor of choice is Der speed doktor, I'll try to be as objective as possible after it arrives and is tested, will definitely post it here.
First stim experiences were with meth so although comparisons may be inaccurate I generally use the "meth high" as a golden standard when comparing amphetamine experiences from SR and non-SR vendors.
My experience with amphetamines is not a long one, 6 months give or take, so I'd like to believe that my tolerance is pretty low.
I mostly use a specialized plastic acrylic bullet for dosing [i think vicious has been selling those] - estimating one 'barrel turn' to be somewhere in the 50~70mg range, please correct me if Im wrong, I do not possess a milligram scale.
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FOR ANY future poster, the more information you provide the better for the whole community, and since the feedback system sucks ass and very few people return to provide details about the goods they've ordered and tested, lets be blunt and say that it is completely useless for any purposes.
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Sorry for the excessive amount of text and thanks for all the sane and honest folks that decide to post any insightful information about amphetamine from SR vendors, you'll do yourself and all of us a great favor.
peace
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thanks for sharing your insights. I also apologize for the essay - gone from being abrupt and blunt to annoyingly elaborate in three posts...
bonovic - based on your assumptions, do you dry yours out to get rid of possible solvents? or do you keep cool for freshness?
trololooo - got me thinkin bout my dosage and realised I did binge a bit: moved house a few weeks ago and used my stash to keep me active/packing/cleaning for a few days running. apart from that it was a bit less than you presume. I ordered 5g, but split baggy messiness and then drying out means I lost over a g, and also shared a lil bit. nevertheless, I agree twas still a high dose, over short period of time (did say I recently developed a penchant for it). prior to my purchases via SR over last couple of months - my use consisted of sharing a g among friends on a night out, or in a night in with the lady...no more than once every few months - and for the most part it was never very impressive (probably accounting for my frivolous use recently. I guess havin the stuff lying around was also a bit of a novelty. I do possess milligram scales and usually weigh out first line of a new batch (30-50mg) - no such care taken with re-dosing though!
also, never done meth so can't compare. I used to think of speed as something that just keeps you awake and stops you from getting drunk or stoned. Now my opinion is that it is a more cost-effective stimulant alternative to cocaine - with a greater potential range of uses than coke.
stim-dick: thanks for suggestions - though I read that mixing Viagra and stims is very bad for the heart/blood pressure etc...so perhaps lower dose is the answer - just might not be the drug-fueled sex binge I was going for!
I had done a quick scan of bluelight prior to my initial post here but found contradictory comments there too. there seems to be some controversy over whether wet speed/base/paste is an unfinished synthesis of the sulphate or whether the paste is always just sulphate made wet by suppliers.
(perhaps someone can advise what the etiquette is for quoting/linking to another forum and then I'll amend my post accordingly):
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"...if all of the freebase is not properly reacted when converting to salt, the oil will cling to the crystals causing them to stick together in waxy clumps. Neither of these things makes the end-product any more potent than the dry salt (although freebase is more potent by weight than the salt form).
Chemically speaking, amphetamines are generally either a freebase or a salt. The term 'freebase' is widely misused in regards to amphetamines; used correctly, freebase refers to the drug in its natural (pure) form. Freebases tend to be oily liquids at room temperature and pressure, and are often quite volatile (i.e., they evaporate easily). Therefor the freebase is almost always converted to a salt."
Hence, if the wetness is leftover freebase amphetamine - it would be a bit of a waste to let it just evaporate away, and the product should be cooled.
However, some think:
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"paste amphetamine is always a salt form, just like the powder. Amphetamine salts are very stable. Base/paste is originally (powder) amphetamine sulfate which has been wetted with either water or some kind of solvent like isopropyl alcohol"
- if this is the case then drying has no effect on potency and there's no need to cool!?!
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The other possibility is what bonovic mentioned - other chems from production process that are not amphetamine (and hence I would not mind them evaporating away either).
Also, when you mentioned ammonium formate as a possible adulterant, it reminded me of the gram I got from Blaatz0r a couple months ago- the smell of which changed after a few days - it increasingly smelled of cat-piss - slightly unfortunate, being a substance I put up my nose!
which of the three options (if any) do we think Der Speed Doktor's (or any other paste vendor's) product falls into?
I'm giving the Doktor the benefit of the doubt and putting my stash in the fridge for now!
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Yeah meth gets a bad rap because well, look at the media hype over it. Sure it can be abused. If you sit in your room all day smoking it you're bound to have problems. It IS possible to get yourself good and tweaked, then carry on with your day in a productive way, with anyone none the wiser....
Hell, if you plan it right you can even get sleep that very same night. People think, "Oh my god meth users do one hit then they're up for a week!" lol Sorry kids, go back to D.A.R.E. class..
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Holy shit guys. Now I'm gonna have to write an essay of a quality report on the doktors and amsterdopes speed when it arrives. I got 10g's of each. Will report in when it comes ;)
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To comment on azorue's theories:
if the liquid in the paste were indeed amphetamine freebase, it would
1. have a yellowish color as amph freebase is yellow-orange (on product pictures it does not, product from SD is pure white as well)
2. most likely react with the water and CO2 in the atmosphere to form a carbonate salt (i know meth base does this, not 100% sure about amphetamine)
3. not evaporate in mere seconds (as the boiling point is >200°C)
So I think your theory number one is highly unlikely.
In my opinion one should dry the stuff. Nothing good can come from snorting p2p leftovers or solvents.
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It's all just left over solvent and water from production.. Just let it dry, I think it's beter if those solvents don't end up in you body ;)
I always dry the speed I buy, snorting wet speed is a pain in the ass!
To Europeans its very normal to get a wet bag of speed (amphetamine sulfate NOT meth!)
To store speed you just have to keep it out of the sunlight in a place where temperature doesn't flux up and down.
But be careful, if you want to store it for a long time it's better to let it dry first if you can't store it in a freezer.
Speed is cut heavily and some of these cutting-agents could go bad if you keep them wet&warm for a long time (molds and such)
So you can store it dried out, vacuum sealed in a grip bag out of the sunlight at a constant temperature.
or
wet/dry, vacuum sealed in a freezer.
In my opinion, you don't have to worry about storage cause you're most likely to finish the bag before it starts to degrade :p
Unless you are selling and have a lot, then I would go for the freezer method (cause you want to keep it wet if you sell, else it will loose weight.. thus money)
Either way it's probably going to be out of your hands in no time so don't worry :D
Grtz
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Yeah meth gets a bad rap because well, look at the media hype over it. Sure it can be abused. If you sit in your room all day smoking it you're bound to have problems. It IS possible to get yourself good and tweaked, then carry on with your day in a productive way, with anyone none the wiser....
Hell, if you plan it right you can even get sleep that very same night. People think, "Oh my god meth users do one hit then they're up for a week!" lol Sorry kids, go back to D.A.R.E. class..
Sure meth and all drugs are hyped up with respect to ill effects but some drugs are notoriously addictive and in the UK the amphetamine we have over here is bad enough. Meth amphetamine is just WAY stronger than plain old amphetamine or even the pharmaceutical amphetamines.
Addiction depends on your psychological state of mind. Meth is dangerous as it will make you very happy and productive no matter how down you are. Its dangerous for certain people and anyone with depression ought to give meth a wide berth until their lives pick up.
I agree you could likely use meth - go to work - then go out in the evening. But I'm guessing the high brings an equal and opposite low. At my age I don't want drugs that have a recovery period that might take up a few days. Amphetamine is bad enough but meth has to be worse right?
I have certain drugs I NEVER plan to use. Heroin is No 1 followed by crack. Meth is on the list also. I know that I have a tendency to go overboard with things and know I would love heroin for example. I have never touched it despite having access to it when it was knocking people out from just a little toot. I grew up around heroin users and only know one who has a job, women and his life together. The rest are either stealing anything they can steal or on the game (hookers) or living a life which involves social workers, kids they don't know, families who have nothing to do as the flat screen TV would go in a minute.
I realize many heroin users here work and hold down jobs. I'd sooner be given a free supply of heroin than meth. Even with pure meth its not so much the damage it does its the damaging behavior that you might indulge in. I know from my days of speed that promiscuity is an issue when you are single. :) Well its ok for guys maybe but you have a bad judgement when using. So if using for the first time on a night out have a friend act as guardian angel.
I knew guys who used speed to work 48 hours solid and get a weeks work done. Amphetamine used daily over the course of few months always leads to trouble IMO. As a treat its part of the festival menu for sure. Emergency credit. A parachute. For that use no other drug can rescue you from that drunken mess like good old speed. Meth would have the same effect I am sure but most British people would generally rather use the tried and tested amphetamine.
I have the 2 gram special from Afghan A but not used yet. His or her current batch is 2.50 BTC or so and its said to be a real nice one. I might try that also and see a crazy night coming up as soon as we can get a house to party in after the usual pub/club meanderings.
MDMA is actually a meth amphetamine also! Tweaked a little. But I can sleep 6-7 hours after using that. I wonder if any meth users feel the empathic stuff you get on MDMA or is it just the energy and more egotistical in its general effect?
I saw a documentary about gay guys who used a lot. Got to say that when high on meth some would even find sleeping with someone who had aids to be a kind of acceptable thing! It was a real big party scene drug and like I say you can get into dangerous situations sometimes. Same can be said for E and coke for sure but they wear off quickly. I'm guessing good meth would be akin to the really good amphetamine that we had in the UK in the 80s and 90s. I know dosage is different but amphetamine was strong enough to see a half gram keep you up for 24 hours with ease. That included drinking numerous beers and smoking a lot of good hash. I've binged on speed but got to say that those days are over. I'd use for emergency purposes. Miss the gig situations. I've actually seen gigs due to speed helping me crawl out of a hangover. Its good for that.
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Okay, it's been a long time in coming but I figure I should do my bit to improve the actual review element of this thread, as it is and has been generally lacking. To that end;
My experiences so far have been with: 1g HashUK paste
2.5g DrAmsterdam 60%
0.3g Juergen 'Med grade' Phosphate
1g Joopium paste.
HashUK was quite some time ago, and my first experience. It's also not super important because the guy is still on stealth mode and may not even bring anymore batches to the table. FWIW it was quite cheap, had mild/moderate burn with a different style of solvent, bit fiery/drying but no real throat troubles. Good value, est ~30%.
DrAmsterdam's stuff is, I think, honest about the %. It is hard hitting, has a different little swirl of euphoria in it, and differs a fair bit in feeling according to route of administration. While the burn and drip are not too bad, the worst part is the constriction of the throat muscles and to a lesser extent the drymouth if used for any length of time, even if magnesium supplementation is taken generously, and good diet/hydration etc. In my case the clarity of thought and presence of mind feels more clouded than I'd like to be productive, so instead I tend to waste time and stay up 36 hours, needing most of the next day to recover. This shit in particular does make me particularly horny though, don't get stimdick and can enjoy fapping for many hours on end with no danger of finishing early. Overall this is good stuff but its expensive and takes its toll, so be careful. I might be better off without more. 4/5 chainsaws.
Juergen's Phosphate is what I am using as a yardstick to compare the others claimed %'s against, as it seems safe to assume it is 90% or more. Insufflated it has far less undue side effects than its street cousins, and leaves my head a bit less muddied or distract-able, but still fell further short of dexedrine than I was hoping, especially for the cost. In my experience (though problematic, my head sucks for chemical rewards most of the time) it carries less euphoric quality than DrA's, so I have profitably mixed small quantities of each to form a hybrid. I really like vendors posting this super high quality shit, I would like to try g0tmilk & co's for reference, and the reduced damage one does for oneself justifies a bit of the extra cost, but I can't help but feel its still overpriced. 4.2 Chainsaws/5.
Joopium- This guy did a super nice job on packaging, which made me feel a lot better about having risked an unknown NL vendor on account of it being a dirt cheap sample showing promise. I've only tried this about 2 hours ago, a modest line followed by a chunk orally which was probably around a point, maybe less. This stuff has a lot of solvent smell still, so in hindsight i probably should have chopped and dried the chunk as well, I was in a hurry. I must have a little tolerance, so take it with a grain of salt, but its been 3-4 days since I last had any, and I can guarantee this is unfortunately (and unsurprisingly) nothing like the quoted 80%. I think about 40 is more accurate. Mental clarity seems better than I expected, some minor interference, but also I think a slight flattening of mental affect. I will take a little more and see where it leaves me. At this point I'm calling 3.5 chainsaws.
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Great reviews Metro! Thanks! :D
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Good SPEED makes your Penis small, and you can fuck more than +5 hours ....
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had anyone buy stuff from "Speed Doctor"? I see many buyers but no feedback here in the forum.
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Well, I have tried Flying Dutchman "Amphetamine Paste"
delivery, package, communication are OK
I will post my extended review later.. haven't tested it yet properly
but I have to say the purity is much more below 70 % for sure (dried paste).. I understand that for this price it is ok.. but why not to advertise the real purity? it is so annoying to find out proper dosage in this case..
anybody else tried it?
p.s. my background: I have never abuse amph. (last time I took it a year ago); I take no medications on regular base;
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has anybody tried Juergen's new stuff?
I was very pleased with his medial grade amphetamine but it is quite pricey so I ordered some of his "regular" 30% amphetamine to determine if the price difference is justifiable. I tried some of it yesterday but was completely stoned on mary jane the entire day so it is was difficult for me to tell how good it actually was. I will be trying again today without combining it with any other drugs. From what I could tell it seems to be an okay product but how it stacks up to his medical grade amphetamine is yet to be to determine.
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had anyone buy stuff from "Speed Doctor"? I see many buyers but no feedback here in the forum.
There's plenty of discussion about this vendor here - if you search for him you gotta spell the name right try 'doktor' with a 'k'.
Think he's highly regarded here. fairly wet paste that is pretty good quality. have ordered twice and would do again.
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has anybody tried Juergen's new stuff?
I was very pleased with his medial grade amphetamine but it is quite pricey so I ordered some of his "regular" 30% amphetamine to determine if the price difference is justifiable. I tried some of it yesterday but was completely stoned on mary jane the entire day so it is was difficult for me to tell how good it actually was. I will be trying again today without combining it with any other drugs. From what I could tell it seems to be an okay product but how it stacks up to his medical grade amphetamine is yet to be to determine.
Yeah his regular speed isn't bad but someone posted test results that it's got meth in it and barely any amphetamine sulphate
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don't wanna promote my stuff - but it's actually the best # batch i've ever received! pure amphetamine sulphate, i don't cut it with - e.g. some vendors does here (don't wanna mention names...) - i've picked up the stuff right from the lab, it's not too wet, it dries within 10-15 min. , it doesn't burn in the nose, it has an ultra strong smell! - everyone, who has received just "once" in his life "uncut" amphetamine from the netherlands, will immediately remember the smell my # batch has! actually, i haven't tested it yet, but "we" user: "moz30" and me "imprint" will do this on the next "checkit" - party in the city! the chemist told me it should be around ~ 60%, maybe a little stronger... - 2x lines á 75mg. will kick your ass for the next 3-4 hours! no shit! i had an "absence" of amphetamine for ~ month, when i first tried it... - took 2x lines á 100mg. and i've recognized after 10-15 min. that this was definitely too much of it... - people, i know the price is pretty high, maybe i'll lower it in some weeks, but this is the real shit! no shit! write @moz30 - who is testing every month a lot of shit at the "checkit" - party - i've gave him yesterday 2gr. samples of it! believe me, he'll tell you, that it will kick your ass like never before! haha... - have fun guys, nice greetings imprint :D
ps: i've attached here 2x nice pics of the "new fresh amphetamine":
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=5998502c599a9c657eb6b7e844d0d3d3.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=935175940225192a2f6a9f2841e35b5b.jpg
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Good SPEED makes your Penis small, and you can fuck more than +5 hours ....
Good speed will shrink your dick but you can still get it up and when its up its up! Before viagra speed was known for pretty much being able to give you an extended boner.
As for the 5 hours - well if your young you ought to be able to keep going for a 5 hour session with ease! I don't need drugs to get aroused and think most women prefer it when a man is naturally aroused by her! Taking Viagra is a cheat as it does not really reflect how passionate a man is.
I feel sorry for my woman when the speed doctors package touches the carpet as the postman drops it.
I actually wish there was a drug that made you come quicker! Ideally a nasal spray that 5 seconds later hit the spot! Then again that would be SO addictive! lol. And someone would mix it with coke. Orcrack?
Cannot wait for the post this week!!! 8) :o
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i buyed yesterday from AA the last 5g of his AA speed
he gave me 7g for buying all 5g i report back after arrival
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buy my phet, i've "amphetamine sulphate" too, "uncut" shit + i'll always add 10%, because i know, when u dry it outside, it will loose some weight...
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d4dd93d93d
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could somebody explain this to me as im quite confused.....
Down here in Aus, alot of us enjoy smoking our speed. I have messaged some of the european vendors asking if thier product is smokable and they have all replied no as it is methamphetamine (ice,shard) that is smokeable and not amphetamine (speed).
If this is so, then what are we smoking here in aus and how do i get some off SR. im almost certain its not methamphetamine as gram for gram speed is about a 5th of the price and definately has a different feel and taste to smoking methamphetamine. also speed (or what is sold as speed) down here is almost exclusively a fine powder where as meth even if it is crushed defintely has a different look about it.
so my questions are:
what the hell are we smoking down here?
who sells that on SR? (not meth)
what are the difference between the pastes and the sulphates being sold by the european vendors? i think sulphate means a salt right? does this mean a powder in the street sense?
thanks for any help
/rant
as a fellow australian, i can tell you that you're smoking meth. "goey" here is just cut up meth. i know a few dealers and they cut it with stuff called MSN or MSM from a supplement store. it vaporises perfectly and comes in nice little crystals. did that come as a shock to you?
personally i prefer aus speed (meth) to european speed, feels cleaner, more euphoric. but personally it's expensive at $200/g with often shit quality, and i can't bring myself to buy shard. so i just get euro amphetamine.
but yep, it's; a bit of a reality shock, i was reading on bluelight ausdd that about 90% of all australian speed is just heavily cut up meth
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look guys i'm pretty sure you're both on some non organic chemistry uneducated tip.
what you will be smoking (powdered speed) is as i understand it is a methamphetamine salt, ( ya know the aussie way a/b methalyse with solvated li electron a/b again, smoke filter evaporate and have a darrrty shot )
where as crystal methamphetamine, although produced by the same route is dissolved in a solvent and then evaporated over a long period of time to yield crystals.
i believe most of what i am saying is correct (especially all of the first part), but take it with a grain of salt i guess .
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not without derailing the thread pal.
just know methamphetamine is methamphetamine and amphetamine is amphetamine,
and what ever you are smoking in australia whether it be that paste goey from incomplete rp/i you get in qld or powder wet stuff from wa its 100% likely to be some hideous attempt by some two bob junky cunt trying to manufacture the methamphetamine molecule
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Got my first speed order from Der Doktor.
Considering I've not really done much speed before, how much should I be looking at insufflating?
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Got my first speed order from Der Doktor.
Considering I've not really done much speed before, how much should I be looking at insufflating?
take a small bump and see how you feel in 15 minutes?
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@anonaus regarding the Aussie speed-confusion:
I agree that it may well be methamphetamine hcl what you are smoking down under, however it can also be amphetamine hcl, an amphetamine salt that can be smoked effectively.
I know that before everybody just cooked meth, amphetamine hcl was popular in the US too. You should be able to tell them apart by their duration, meth lasts way longer.
The illicit labs in europe however produce almost exclusively the sulphate salt which is not smokable as you already said.
google "bluelight amphetamine faq" for more information
@pholscolloid89
best way just like ziggy said. There's no rushing anyway so no need to dose at once. The maximum starting dose to be safe would be around 50mg. I have his stuff here, you won't "overdose" with this amount. and first of all: dry it well (it buuuurns).
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I have ordered again from der Speeddoktor 2day, needed this time 2 finalize early, but thats ok, i trust this guy!
I hope its nearly the same quality then the last time! ;D
Will update when it arive!
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Who do you guys recommended for the best packaging? Im an AUS buyer so it has to be good!
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Is there anyone that received speed from DopeyDwarf in the last 3 weeks? I see only FE's but nobody updates their FB to received, just one.
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Hmmm, doesnt sounds good!
the last i get from him was yellow too
I hope that this is not the reason for the need of FE and the lower price!
I will see when it arived and update then here !
I have ordered again from der Speeddoktor 2day, needed this time 2 finalize early, but thats ok, i trust this guy!
I hope its nearly the same quality then the last time! ;D
Will update when it arive!
I've ordered 5 grams from Der Speed Doktor one time since the price dropping and I've received white speed of very bad quality this time. The previous yellow speed was very good but this stuff is crap. Maybe other people still receive the good stuff but for me seems like it's back to square one. >:(
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Just wanted to say a quick note about AAkoven. This was the first time I've ordered speed off him (previous MDMA dealings all went well).
During the 420 sale i was like .09 bitcoins short for his 2g listing because of international shipping. He let me use the EU shipping option instead so that the sale still counted towards the contest. I was expecting the weight to be a little light to compensate. I received it today (4-5 days to north america east coast... wow! perfect packaging - NO SMELL until fully opened) and it was OVER weight still.
I have zero tolerance so a few key bumps for me and I'm feeling great. Really focused, mild euphoria.
Just wanted to say thanks to AA, went above and beyond for such a small $$ transaction!
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I have also 5g of speed doktor's last batch (the yellow paste)- I like it very much and I was on the verge of ordering 10g of the new stuff a few days ago (I still had some BCs on my account). Then I saw Pfandleihers MDMA (1 g for ~ 7.5 BC) and ordered (2 days ago) 2g of that (instead of the 10g speed)- maybe that was a good decision? I will see...
In fact now I'm very glad that my actual stuff from doktor is very potent because the communication with him is not so easy (in the case of a problem) - that's a pity.
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I have 5g of the doktor's batch before the current one. I don't know much about speed, but I ate about 50mg this morning, and while I didn't feel wired or anything I could concentrate & focus better.
Then snorted 40mg about 4.5 hours ago and felt same again - more focus and mental energy, but a bit more jittery.
Make of this what you will, don't really know about dosages and stuff.
Would love to try some real high purity adderall/dexedrine to compare stuff to but it's just too expensive
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After several years of speed consum my experience is that: beside the meaurable quality of the stuff the environment where u take it is not to be sneezed at. I know people who take a big load of speed and then sitting on the couch and watch a movie or doing another "passive" thing.
I feel the whole impact of speed when I'm in "movement"- interaction with other people, dancing and so on.
Sure, you can take it, sitting around, sweat and have the heart beat of an anxious mouse - your body physically reacts in a designated way, but: is that (alone) a good feeling? Speed ("good" speed) gives me a nice shot of energy- and I have to answer with activity; otherwise I'm starting to feel a bit uncomfortable and confused because of the physical reactions.
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I was thinking of buying some paste from the SpeedDoktor but his latest reviews haven't been all that promising and I don't want to end up with 5 grams of plaster of Paris.
As a North American use to Crystal Meth I am generally a little hesitant about European speed. Does anyone out there have any recommendations? I am thinking of Imprint,Aakoven, Aspirant Cooper, and Juergen's medical phosphate. The phosphate is expensive, but I don't mind paying a higher price for a quality product. Any advice/observations?
On a closing note ... where did all those white ICE pill vendors go? Mr.Rouid had a solid reputation.. but the newer vendors seem to have poor customer relation skills and I would hesitate to buy anything off of them. They just don't instill much confidence in me as a buyer. Ain't flaming...just saying.
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New user on the forums/marketplace speaking, but quite experienced on amphetamine use. I've been browsing the forum and marketplace a bit looking for the best quality speed (obviously). Almost made a purchase with Flying Dutchman but couldn't find a lot of reviews on his speed. So I canceled the purchase.
imprint's sulphate looks awesome, but haven't ever tried anything like that so I'm not sure what to expect. Anyone already bought it?
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Hey,
If you are in the US I gotta recommend you avoid AAkoven
Read more here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=20682.0
I recommend Amsterdope (great stuff, fairly priced, stealthy packaging) -- i just ran out and ordered some more.
Juergen's was good but it had meth in it which isn't really my thing
Blaatzor's was awful.
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Thanks for the tip, I do live in Holland tho and I already have had speed send to me through the mail in fairly crap packaging so I'm not worried that it will not reach me :P
For some reason I've always had my doubts with AAkoven, not sure why.. But I thought the Doktors' speed was quite good? I'll wait for test results then I guess..
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I ordered 3 or 4 days before 420, when the price was higher. Received a package of clean white speed. Quality was awesome. I have been using speed for 10 years now, and it was one of the best for a long time.
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I ordered 3 or 4 days before 420, when the price was higher. Received a package of clean white speed. Quality was awesome. I have been using speed for 10 years now, and it was one of the best for a long time.
From the Doktor? What was the price you payed?
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I ordered 3 or 4 days before 420, when the price was higher. Received a package of clean white speed. Quality was awesome. I have been using speed for 10 years now, and it was one of the best for a long time.
From the Doktor? What was the price you payed?
I payed 76$ for 5g. As i said, perfect stuff. But i am also a bit scared to reorder now. I hope some people will post their opinion about the quality from the 420 stuff. Have ordered from the Doktor many times, no problems at all so far.
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I've paid 10 btc about 50 dollars for the last 5 grams, tried it a couple of times on different occasions to be sure but no speed-kick at all, so for me it's 50 bucks down the drain. Maybe other people still receive good quality from Der Doktor I don't know.
10 BTC for 5gr., was your order placed during the 420 sale?
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One day before, about 8 days ago. I was actually promoting his speed for like the last month or so on the forum.
I see, I ordered 5g for 10btc during the 420, just got it. Yellowish wet paste, smells like a chemical dump, can't test it now coz it's a yayo day so in the freezer it went. Seems good though. Clever packaging, no odor on the outside at all.
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Blegh, I hate the yellow stuff :P I want mine to be white :D
I wonder why sellers vary their quality so much, I mean.. wouldn't it make sense to deliver top notch quality all the time so you will have returning customers.
Sure, sometimes a source dries out but I'd do everything I can to make sure to equal the quality again.. else don't sell at all.
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Blegh, I hate the yellow stuff :P I want mine to be white :D
I wonder why sellers vary their quality so much, I mean.. wouldn't it make sense to deliver top notch quality all the time so you will have returning customers.
Sure, sometimes a source dries out but I'd do everything I can to make sure to equal the quality again.. else don't sell at all.
I just wanna chime in here and report that the Doktor also got white stuff but this is not as good as the yellowish.
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My stuff from doktor was off-white creme when wet, and went more yellow as it dried. But hell,I dont really give a damn about colors I guess, as long as the stuff gets me high, lol. And his still does 8)
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I have never done or seen Speed! I live in the USA and it just isn't here to my knowledge, and if it is it is scarce and guarded! Meth, on the other hand is plentiful. I wish there were a vendor in USA that could get speed, because I'd like to try it. I haven't ordered anything from out of country yet, so I'd be paranoid about it not getting here.
Who would you recommend that I order from?
Thanks,
Eco
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I have never done or seen Speed! I live in the USA and it just isn't here to my knowledge, and if it is it is scarce and guarded! Meth, on the other hand is plentiful. I wish there were a vendor in USA that could get speed, because I'd like to try it. I haven't ordered anything from out of country yet, so I'd be paranoid about it not getting here.
Who would you recommend that I order from?
Thanks,
Eco
I can recommend Der Speed Doktor, but if I was in the US, I would not order from the EU, to risky regarding US-customs..
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NEW batch 28-4 ;)
THIS IS LAB TESTED 55-58 :P
I pay top $$ for it, for all the P freaks here.. try it an :-X am back [ the supplier off speed are assholes. [ can some one sell me a gun ? ]
AA 8)
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I have never done or seen Speed! I live in the USA and it just isn't here to my knowledge, and if it is it is scarce and guarded! Meth, on the other hand is plentiful. I wish there were a vendor in USA that could get speed, because I'd like to try it. I haven't ordered anything from out of country yet, so I'd be paranoid about it not getting here.
Who would you recommend that I order from?
Thanks,
Eco
I can recommend Der Speed Doktor, but if I was in the US, I would not order from the EU, to risky regarding US-customs..
I'm in US and I got stuff from doktor in 3 days time. Freaking blew my mind that I got it that fast from germany.
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I got the yellowish paste. What do I do with it? How do i dry it out? I snorted some and it stings somethin fierce. This is Der Speed Doktors shit.
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I use a warm plate (glass), put a bit on it (50-100mg), chop the stuff and let i dry @ air about 1-2 hours. After that that I have a fine and white powder which is perfect for snorting.
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Hello, it(he,she) has just come to me, 3.5gr speed of flying dutchman.lo have given the orders to analyze. I will say TO YOU he(it) proved.regards
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FYI:
I have both, the yellow and the white kind. Most people seemed to prefer the yellow speed. Beginning tomorrow you can choose which one you want. just make a note when you order. Price is the same.
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FYI:
I have both, the yellow and the white kind. Most people seemed to prefer the yellow speed. Beginning tomorrow you can choose which one you want. just make a note when you order. Price is the same.
Its not here until now, couse the weekend and the 1.Mai i think.
But can u say me witch one u send me?
To cool down my nerves ::)
Is it nearly the same quality like last time or not?
mfg jaycee
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Received first order on here last night .VERY LET DOWN 20 g ord from der speed doc .Lucky if there any speed in what i got yellow and lumpy totally dry .Me and friend took almost g each with no speedy affects .
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anyone ever try the molson dry "bottle cap" pills? looks like most of the pillreports list them as being common in eastern canada but about half say they're horrible piperazine and half say they are legit speed pills...got two of them as extras from fanny hill and wondering if anyone has a clue??
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I ordered 3.5 grams of speed from The Flying Dutchman before the 420 sale. It arrived very fast and used it last weekend. I started at about 6:00 pm on saturday and went partying and drinking. The speed felt quite good but not really much euphoria (even not after .5 gram). So I partied all night long and stayed awake on sunday without taking any more. I kindoff felt bad in the morning but by the time it was noon I was feeling quite good already. I fell asleep at around 5.30 pm on sunday. I took about .7 grams of speed. My friend took 1.1 gram and drunk like 25 beers on it, then became completely paranoid and couldn't sleep until sunday 11.30 pm.
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you certainly couldnt do that on DER SPEED DOCTORS dont waste your money stuff a p... take wish i could meet him .
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has anyone tried amphetamine/speed to "abzu" ?
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Not tried but if linked with seller on topix which im sure he is stuff poor quality .How come the feckin speed doctor top seller beats me stuff pure shite .
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Received 5g from Der Speed Doktor...... Slightly damp and slightly yellow. Ordered on 420 and shipping was a bit slow. 10 days including two weekends.
Based on my (limited) experience of pharmaceutical amphetamines I'd say it is around 30-40% pure. 100mg or so gave me a similar effect to 40mg of amphetamine salt pills, but did not last as long (I think because the pills are designed to last longer).
Snorting it is much more effective when it has been dried out a bit, otherwise it just gets stuck in your nose and stays there until you pick it out! Too damp to really get it right up....
To be honest I was expecting more from some of the reviews on here but it does the job and the price is ok.
I will maybe wait and see if the reviews improve before ordering more. I would also like to know what it is cut with! Sellers on SR should know these things if we want to have a really effective community....
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Mate i wish what he sent me was like that .What i got is 20 gs of dry crumbly yellow powder.ZERO SPEED .Speed doctor as i said before is a rip off cu.. .Look at his last 100 g order guy says same as me .Where are decent speed vendors has to be someone ?
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check out aspirantcooper's amph. this is very strong, very pure stuff. I have bought it some time ago and was very pleased. even Im from poland where it is sourced from (just like 90% of amph)
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Hi there,
Have received today my Letter from der Speeddoktor!
It needed 8 Days ( with the WE and the 1. May )
Was well packed and yellow ( more intense colour then the last Batch ) !
But not that Premium Quality like the last one!!!
So my Fazit is for the lower price he sells this one its usable !
I hope the next Batch reaches the old Level again !
greets jaycee
PS.: A tip from me is to wrote in the Description that its not that Strong Like the previous Batch, so that we Customers knows it and make us not wrong hope!
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Report about a sample of amphetamine from German Express:
Got a goodie of a .1 speed sample in my coke order and have to say...real good.....had the straight comparison to the Speeddoktor....
and it is real good...strong smell....hell of a burn....but shivering good:)
he is a newcomer and we have to wait about the quality during longer time...but this batch is real good speed...really...
real plus from my side 8)
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Today received my 5g order from Amsterdope.
- Shipping is very fast
- Packaging is very good, however the powder is not in a ziplock bag
- Smell is strong
- Product is not wet
Just had 90mg + 60mg 10mins later another line. So I dosed 150mg nasally. Should make me feel pretty good no?
Half an hour later I feel awake, alert.. but little euphoria, no rushing, no hapiness... I'm a bit disappointed.
So quality is not so good.
Also had some GBL with it against jitters, I feel OK now.
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check out aspirantcooper's amph. this is very strong, very pure stuff. I have bought it some time ago and was very pleased. even Im from poland where it is sourced from (just like 90% of amph)
it looks pretty good, i'm very tempted by it.
would you say it was worth the high price? (nearly 4-5x other vendors is all that puts me off)
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hi guys...from your comments it is clear that there is a top seller of amphetamine / speed...tutti vendors have average/poor quality stuff ... this is a real shame ...
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Came on here as told vendors sell quality product .So where is quality speed without paying way over the top price for small ammount ?
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Has anyone tried speed from super trips before i see he has new batch up ?
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Has anyone tried speed from super trips before i see he has new batch up ?
I was wondering the same thing, I'm used to buying in the 65% range so this should be good.. (if he is displaying the correct percentage of course :p)
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Did a bulkorder from abzu..
Complete shit with less than 10% amp in it..
And no respond whatsoever!
So dont buy from him or kadistu/teknuttrients..
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I tried European speed for the first time with my one gram order from Imprint arriving today.
First,let me say that it is nowhere near the rocket fuel adrenaline that Meth provides.. but then again, I didn't have that expectation. I wanted a milder substitute.
I did 2 nice fat rails and was pleasantly impressed by how clean it felt. After 5 minutes I detected a distinct alertness and sharpness of intellect. I could imagine Jack Kerouac doing this kind of speed that inspired him to write his Beatnik classics.
Although I didn't do a Marquis test I detected no adulterants and found it to be a light pleasant stimulant . It won't make you all tweaked out like Meth does but it will give you to the energy you need to finally go out and get those groceries you so desperately need.
I recommend that curious North American's give Imprint's speed a try. I think that the one gram is good value for the money... but I wouldn't order pounds of it.
I am waiting for an order from AspirantCooper and will keep you all posted. Peace.
**SILKROAD: Membership has it's privileges! **
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thank you for the nice feedback! i really appreciate this!
regards, imprint
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And now they have deleted one of their CM mail that have been used
for over a year...
Such pussis >:(
Did a bulkorder from abzu..
Complete shit with less than 10% amp in it..
And no respond whatsoever!
So dont buy from him or kadistu/teknuttrients..
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Mate der soeed doctor same pmd him five or six times without single response ,quick to take bitcoin but once finalized early he not interested .THIS to me is scammer so how the feck is he top seller for phet on sr .Think gona try super trips stuff who knows MAY be ok .
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Just another observation of European speed: although Imprint's speed was a surprisingly pleasant stimulant I did get a nasty sinus headache later on in the day. Mind you I often lose track of all the drugs I snort so I can't conclude with certainty that Imprints speed was the sole cause of it. As I said earlier it was dry (not a paste) and I was able to chop up very fine lines with my library card. It was clean and my mind became razor sharp within minutes. I think I might have ADD.
I have often heard folks complain how snorting Meth 'burns' too much.. but quite frankly it doesn't fuck up my sinuses as much as rails of coke, K, or crushed morphine pills with all the adulterants and thick particles.
I find the 'burn' of snorting Meth is somewhat of a 'bonus' insofar that it is a very distinct sensation which enables you to determine whether or not it's quality product. Only recently I have developed a preference in doing lines of Meth than in smoking bowls. I know that smoking it is an enjoyable ritual insofar that it fulfills a primal need which in itself becomes an addiction. Certain drug rituals:whether it be chopping up lines to snort, or cooking and fixing H often determine what a users drug of will be. However smoking shard is def a lot more wasteful and costly.
With all the corrosive and toxic chemicals used to make Meth I don't ever intend on injecting it: I'd prefer to save those precious veins for some really good heroin.Another route I won't do with Meth is 'plugging it'. I tried that a few weeks back and my asshole felt like someone had applied a blow torch to it for 2 hours. I couldn't even sit down. I cringe just thinking about it.
At the risk of sounding a little old-fashioned here: I just think a full grown man shouldn't be putting anything up his ass: it just seems somewhat 'unnatural' imo. However, I do vigorously support the right of everybody to do whatever the fuck they want with their own bodies. So if you or anyone else wants to shove foreign objects up their butt holes (phallic objects, hamsters, or fists) then I say " You go for it girlfriend!". Just be sanitary about it..o.k.? Make sure you make a vigorous lather with soap and water before greeting me with a firm handshake.
Nonetheless, I remain impressed by Imprint's product and will continue to document any further observations/insights that I may have with the remainder of it. In all fairness I think one needs to administer a substance at least several times before they can make an accurate and fair conclusive assessment of it.
I am actually very curious about Juergen's medical grade amphetamine phosphate.. but (and I have heard this from many people) the cost is quite prohibitive. For 22 Btc's you can score a quality gram of coke which (if you've had it before) you know is guaranteed to numb your face and make you feel like the most interesting,sexy, and biggest baddest motherfucker in the world. However, if I have to snort half a gram of something super expensive just to catch a slight buzz it's very unlikely that I'll be purchasing that product again.
So Juergen if you are reading this, and you believe in the quality of your product, and no doubt as a businessman would like to increase your customer base here is a my humble suggestion:lower the price of the medical grade amphetamine phosphate for a short trial period so that us curious North American's can give it a go. Most of us on this continent are very suspicious about the whole European speed scene and all the consistently poor reviews on SR tend to reinforce this attitude. There isn't any promising,interesting or worthwhile drug that any respectable person who considers themselves a drug fiend would not give a try. Making that product more affordable will certainly facilitate more experimentation and possibly boost your sales. :)
** Remember:Users don't lose drugs!**
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Nonetheless, I remain impressed by Imprint's product and will continue to document any further observations/insights that I may have with the remainder of it. In all fairness I think one needs to administer a substance at least several times before they can make an accurate and fair conclusive assessment of it.
Haha, I can make an accurate and fair assessment of the product in question just by seeing the way you write. :)
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Mate der soeed doctor same pmd him five or six times without single response ,quick to take bitcoin but once finalized early he not interested .THIS to me is scammer so how the feck is he top seller for phet on sr .Think gona try super trips stuff who knows MAY be ok .
Are you out of your mind? How can you possibly say he's a scammer. Just take 2 seconds to look at all of his feedback. I personally know he's not a scammer as I've just recieved 10g's of his stuff a week ago.
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Speed doc is definately NOT a scammer and his last batch of speed was some of the best and cheapest speed on silkroad. However it has to be said that his latest batch of yellowish, fairly dry, powdery speed is pretty bad. Im extremely disappointed as i think he is a great seller and thought id be a life long customer.
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JUST4DRUGS 2122 obviously not you that threw away 37 bitcoin .YES look at feedback how feckin many fe ? Also look at 100 gorder buyer said same as me stuff total shit.In answer to your question no not out my mind .Certainly not on twenty g order i got from der speed doctor .ZERO PHET .
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who has da best sheeeet then? :D
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I've got a good feeling about SuperTrips' speed.
I'ma order it this week I guess (when my issues with the bank are resolved) and I'm pretty sure it will be delivered quite fast, as we're in the same country, so I can test it for y'all.
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Can someone tell me if any of this euro "speed" is injectable? From what ive seen and read, most of it is severely cut, which makes iv not possible.. Just turns to gluggy milky shit..
Thanks for your time. :)
FB
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yeh come on who has got the good fast speed base phet wat ever you call it .I got from der speed doctor .verdict .total shit .got from afghan atrophecey .verdict .shit .So come on is there good gear or not ?
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Would love to know who has the good stuff. Totally fucked off that speed docs last batch was shite, was hoping he might be able to rectify the situation as i thought he was a great seller. Supertrips does seem inteteresting. If someone came on here and sold shit hot speed at a fair price i would spend shit loads of my hard earned cash.
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gutted basically :( vendors need to step up
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gutted basically :( vendors need to step up
In my humble opinion Imprint has the best European speed. It will def appeal to North American's b/c it retains it's coke like
fine particles and you can chop up a line without it turning into complete mush. Order a small sample amount and see how it goes. I prefer this stuff to Adderall. This is a good clean stimulant.
* User's Don't Lose Drug's*
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At last speeder 69 and racidacid singin from same song sheet as me .If i gave anyone speed like i got from der speed doctor i would be the the laughin stock of mates when i asked to be paid for it .No offer of replacement or even free couple g . 37 bitcoin straight proffit as stuff so poor quality he couldnt have paid feck all for it .
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Vendors do need to step up indeed and sell proper speed, or at least display the right percentage in their info...
I don't get it, I think you'd want returning and happy customers... Ah well, who am I :P
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So 'european speed' is speed like anywhere in the world, just cut to shit? No wonder its so cheap. Fucking rip of merchants. Stop selling rubbish.. The worst thing is people from Australia are buying this crap then re selling it for over $150 /g. Losers.
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Hey guys, yesterday i got mail from amsterdope (1g speed) and 5 from Der Seed Doktor (white gear).
Iam now awake 24 hours and mainly did amsterdopes gear ( 0,5g so far) was pretty impressed, because i do not expect much from dutch gear anymore...
Gave me a nice rush initially, and after 2-3 hours (redosed 50mg each 40 min) i was nicely tweaked :)
Der Speed Doktors gear is pretty much the same gear as he had before the yelllow, which i did not sample.
Maybe a little bit weaker but idk :) Will update oncei did more or when amsterdopes gear is depleted :)
greets eryx2k9
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In my opinion, no one has speed excellent quality .... all sellers amphetamine have low quality ...
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Thanks for your feedback ecstacy..
I would be happy to pay $70-$100 per gram for pure speed. We pay upto $200 in Australia... For actual 80% though.
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Hey guys good to keep each other informed ,mite help us from bein ripped off .Headin to sort out some b coin gona place order from fanny hill and see wat these speed pills like ,have to be better than phet these guys sellin .
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Thanks for your feedback ecstacy..
I would be happy to pay $70-$100 per gram for pure speed. We pay upto $200 in Australia... For actual 80% though.
200 dollar?! :O I buy my 65% (tested) on 'the streets' here in Holland for 10 euro/gram..
I feel your pain
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All the speed thats getting sold is 'tested' apparently? I wonder if these tests are accurate?
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Yeah man.. We're fucking crazy! Haha.
But seriously, I was working with a Swedish guy when I lived in Surfers Paradise, he told me how cheap speed was there, and how out raged he was when I sold him some.. Until two days later.. Lets just say he changed his mind.. Haha, blew him away! :)
How exactly do these drug testing services work over there?
Also, anyone know what the difference in production is for sulphate is? Im familiar with meth production...
Thanks. :)
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I guess only way to tell if it's accurate is either forum reviews or you have to buy it
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How exactly do these drug testing services work over there?
You bring a sample to one of the test centers (there are like 30 spread over the country), you get a reference number and some time later you call in with that number to get the result 8) Pretty easy
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How exactly do these drug testing services work over there?
You bring a sample to one of the test centers (there are like 30 spread over the country), you get a reference number and some time later you call in with that number to get the result 8) Pretty easy
Wow.. Are they free? What can you get tested?
Can anyone use the service, or do you have to be a citizen?..
And its anonymous right, and free?
:)
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How exactly do these drug testing services work over there?
You bring a sample to one of the test centers (there are like 30 spread over the country), you get a reference number and some time later you call in with that number to get the result 8) Pretty easy
Wow.. Are they free? What can you get tested?
Can anyone use the service, or do you have to be a citizen?..
And its anonymous right, and free?
:)
Yes it is anonymous, and free... you can get everything tested there (XTC, cocaine, speed, ketamine, LSD, etc, etc). But only thing is you have to be a Dutch citizen :)
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Yes it is anonymous, and free... you can get everything tested there (XTC, cocaine, speed, ketamine, LSD, etc, etc). But only thing is you have to be a Dutch citizen :)
Do you get much stuff tested? Do you find that vendors are fairly truthful or tend to overstate it massively?
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Tbh, I have yet to make my first sale here :P But when I usually buy stuff I get it from people I've known for quite some time and I know their quality is top notch.
Will probably make my first buy this week and I'll let you know if quality advertised is quality sold..
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The latest batch from Der Speed Doktor is 'OK' according to my very unscientific assessment :). Heavy floral smell, and a little wet at first (but dries quickly). I plan on washing it with acetone, I'll post the weight before and after here.
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The latest batch from Der Speed Doktor is 'OK' according to my very unscientific assessment :). Heavy floral smell, and a little wet at first (but dries quickly). I plan on washing it with acetone, I'll post the weight before and after here.
That'd be awesome.
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Just took some of the 420 sale wet yellow speed from Der Speed Doktor out of the freezer, dried it and took 2 big sniffs, and feel................nothing. wtf!
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In my opinion, no one has speed excellent quality .... all sellers amphetamine have low quality ...
I suppose I've developed cross tolerance from Meth..but honestly folks, having tried most of the European speed 'paste' for the last 2 months here are my humble observations on stimulants:if you are socially awkward and wanna feel like a sexy motherfucker for the night stick with cocaine. If you want razor sharp intellect to pass an exam or win at Scrabble try Adderall. If you are lucky enough to buy it chew on the African herbal stimulant Khat or try some 4-MEC (synthetic) if you just wanna have a day of shits n' giggles with your buddies. Of course, if you crave intensity and don't mind living dangerously stick with Crystal Meth. IMO If you want a real effective stimulant don't bother wasting your money on 'amphetamine sulphate' from Europe or 'speed paste' b/c despite it's scientific sounding name it actually contains very little amphetamine.
Most of this European stuff is heavily cut with adulterants like caffeine and has only 15 to 40 % actual amphetamine.That's like buying a quarter once of weed with 15 to 40% being oregano!! Who would tolerate that kind of rip off unless they were a super wealthy masochist? Snorting European speed is like snorting dried toothpaste: it is truly fucking ridiculous in it's desperation. It's like something you might have tried as a teenager for a buzz: like doing lines of nutmeg, or sniffing glue. Not exactly for the more sophisticated experienced drug fiend.
Honestly, IMO Imprint had the most decent gear... so if you insist on trying any European speed buy a small sample amount and give him a try. Personally tho, I think I have wasted enough money on experimenting with this stuff. I have concluded not to waste any more time with a product that just gives me the very same buzz I can get from a can of Redbull or few cups of coffee.
However, if anyone does experience something truly mind shattering or amazing...by all means feel free to PM me. In this unlikely case I wouldn't be surprised if what you thought was speed paste actually turned out to be DMT. ha ha.
Have fun and be safe kids.
**Try and Remember:User's Don't Lose Drugs!**
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I cleaned 1020mg of the Doctors latest white batch using a regular coffee filter and around 50ml of petroleum ether (not acetone). Passed the solvent through the filter four times. After the solvent had evaporated I had 726mg of product remaining, still with a bit of a floral scent but not nearly as strong as the unwashed product. Ah, and the powder is now bone dry instead of slightly wet-ish.
I am in no way a lab tech, so please take this with a grain of salt!
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Hi guys stuff ive gettin in uk up till two months ago seemed to dry up called brain .Blew your fuckin bollocks off that good a buzz .Kept you up all night half a g proper old school base speed not like shite seems to be on here ,two hundred pounds an ounse .
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I cleaned 1020mg of the Doctors latest white batch using a regular coffee filter and around 50ml of petroleum ether (not acetone). Passed the solvent through the filter four times. After the solvent had evaporated I had 726mg of product remaining, still with a bit of a floral scent but not nearly as strong as the unwashed product. Ah, and the powder is now bone dry instead of slightly wet-ish.
I am in no way a lab tech, so please take this with a grain of salt!
So, you lost about 30% of crap. Taken that Amphetamine can have max purity of 73%, we take 30% off 73% that leaves about 50%. Dokters speed is about 50% amphetamine, thats kinda decent.. :)
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I cleaned 1020mg of the Doctors latest white batch using a regular coffee filter and around 50ml of petroleum ether (not acetone). Passed the solvent through the filter four times. After the solvent had evaporated I had 726mg of product remaining, still with a bit of a floral scent but not nearly as strong as the unwashed product. Ah, and the powder is now bone dry instead of slightly wet-ish.
I am in no way a lab tech, so please take this with a grain of salt!
I admire your determination valentinesmith.. and you are closer to a lab tech than the rest 99% of us so I commend you for undertaking this alchemical work.
What I don't understand is this: why do peeps have to go through the process of acetone washes, filtering, etc...?? Why don't these dealers just provide unadulterated amphetamine without all the cuts and filler?
To advertise something as speed when 60% of it is caffeine is just plain dishonest. Perhaps I am naive, but yes, I do think that there are 'honest' drug dealers out there. Even if I have to pay a little extra: I won't mind!! I just hate having to snort a whole bunch of cut just to get a mild amphetamine buzz. Shooting this stuff (like they did in the U.K. punk scene in the 70's) would be a very dangerous proposition.
Anyways buddy, I hope that purification process works out for you. :)
**User's Don't Lose Drugs!!**
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this thread makes for some depressing reading
has anyone tried supertrips's speed? his MDMA is good
would also love to hear opinions on aspirantcooper's
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ok have to put in my feedback. am located in the netherlands so in the enviable position of being able to test drugs for a minor fee! bought 2 grams of AAkoven about 3 weeks ago. test result: 3% amphetamine over 80% caffeine the rest who knows (seriously!)
then tried a vendor far and away "imprint" from austria. package did arrive and again to the lab. result: 5% over 80% caffeine etc.
and historically i am used to quality dope, very disappointing all in all and more disturbingly both sellers have very positive feedback!
so i dont know, watch the test results on the fora or go back to the street, maybe other products dont have this problem but amphetamine definitely does have a problem on the silk road.
be safe
-anonymous-
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I find it especially suspicious that NONE of the vendors have anything to say about this shit they are selling. I agree with what someone else said, why not sell pure at a higher price and if the people spending their money want to cut it, so be it!?
None of this makes any sense!
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I have now ordered 5g of SuperTrips and 5g of Amsterdopes Speed so that i can Test both !
I Also have asked Der Speed Doktor if he sell me a 1g Sample of the new White one he have now o replace the yellow Bullshit!
Because from him I wont at this time not by too mutch untill im not shure if its the money worth!
ordered: May 10, 2012, 9:30 pm UTC
Supertrips was the first who goes in transit, Amsterdope asked to finalize early and from der Doktor no Responze to my Question at this time !
Will update here how this experiment goes on !
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So, you lost about 30% of crap. Taken that Amphetamine can have max purity of 73%, we take 30% off 73% that leaves about 50%. Dokters speed is about 50% amphetamine, thats kinda decent.. :)
Now I have washed the rest of my stash as well; 10548mg turned into 7028mg. Probably the higher loss is due to more careful (thus more effective) mixing of the solvent and the amphetamine. The Doktors speed seems to be of decent quality at around 65-70% amphetamine sulphate. (Unless I have made any mistakes, that is.) Please don't start the old sulphate vs freebase equivalent discussion again :).
I admire your determination valentinesmith.. and you are closer to a lab tech than the rest 99% of us so I commend you for undertaking this alchemical work.
What I don't understand is this: why do peeps have to go through the process of acetone washes, filtering, etc...?? Why don't these dealers just provide unadulterated amphetamine without all the cuts and filler?
To advertise something as speed when 60% of it is caffeine is just plain dishonest. Perhaps I am naive, but yes, I do think that there are 'honest' drug dealers out there. Even if I have to pay a little extra: I won't mind!! I just hate having to snort a whole bunch of cut just to get a mild amphetamine buzz. Shooting this stuff (like they did in the U.K. punk scene in the 70's) would be a very dangerous proposition.
Anyways buddy, I hope that purification process works out for you. :)
I'm not sure why street amphetamine is of such lousy quality, maybe it is just because everyone accepts it. If you can get away with stepping on your product, I reckon most dealers will do it. Speed dealers *are* notoriously dishonest :). A lot of people shoot street amphetamine, in fact it is the most common drug to inject in a few countries. I wouldn't do it though.
Oh, and regarding the buzz you get from amphetamine.. I use it mostly for studying, same way as US students use Adderall. I would much rather use actual pharmaceuticals, but they are very uncommon in Europe compared to the US. However, when out partying I actually prefer amphetamine to cocaine. YMMV.
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Hey guys good to keep each other informed ,mite help us from bein ripped off .Headin to sort out some b coin gona place order from fanny hill and see wat these speed pills like ,have to be better than phet these guys sellin .
You might want to exercise some caution with regards to those white 'ICE' speed pills and order a small amount first. Apparently when they first came out they were reported to be very
strong stimulants (they are rumored to have methamphetamine in them). Over time though the quality went significantly downhill b/c of so many cheap imitations that followed the initial success.
When you do try them though please report back to the Forum and post a review. Cheers. :)
"When the do-gooder's come to town: head for the hills!"
William Burroughs
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I messaged FannyHill with the question how heavy those beauties were, but he hasn't gotten back to me. They do look damn fine and interesting tho.. :D
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I just snorted 46mg of my petroleum ether washed amphetamine, and got too high to study. All in all, I think ~7g of high quality amphetamine (after washing) for ฿20.04 is a pretty good deal. I give the Doktor two thumbs up!
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Apparently to clean amphetamine properly you need to do a two stage purification, one as you have already done then another by dissolving the product in distilled water. Filtering that through filter paper and then evaporating off the water to yield the cleaned speed. This step is used to clean out impurities that are not soluble in water but are soluble in the ether.
I really want to order some speed from the silkroad but if I want caffeine I would rather just have a cup of coffee. Has anyone tried juergens medical grade amphetamine phosphate, is it worth the high price?
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I just snorted 46mg of my petroleum ether washed amphetamine, and got too high to study. All in all, I think ~7g of high quality amphetamine (after washing) for ฿20.04 is a pretty good deal. I give the Doktor two thumbs up!
Thats good to hear :)
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Hey valentinesmith when did you get that batch from der doc ?Yellow i got def not even 10 percent phet ,would have been wel happy if was .
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got imprint amphetamine sulfate.. quality is very low :-\
tomorrow will try to clean it with petroleum
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I just snorted 46mg of my petroleum ether washed amphetamine, and got too high to study. All in all, I think ~7g of high quality amphetamine (after washing) for ฿20.04 is a pretty good deal. I give the Doktor two thumbs up!
Hi valentinesmith, can you provide a link to a webpage that describes how to wash amphetimine please?
Thanks
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Hi valentinesmith, can you provide a link to a webpage that describes how to wash amphetimine please?
The procedure is described earlier in this thread. I used a different solvent though.
Hey valentinesmith when did you get that batch from der doc ?Yellow i got def not even 10 percent phet ,would have been wel happy if was .
I got it a few days ago, it's from his new white batch.
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for those on the fence; I like the ICE pills that fanny hill sells. i did a review the first time i got them a few pages back on this thread, and have ordered them again since then so thought i'd share my thoughts:
i usually take half one if i just want a light buzz for a couple hours, a whole pill gets me wired for 2-5 hrs depending on how much i've been drinking. i don't know why people are buying this shit paste that everyone complains about still instead of these because fanny hill sells these things at an awesome price (currently atleast)
i've never done the speed paste that people here sell so can't compare it, but it feels around as strong as adderrall pills and a little cleaner. the ice pills are hard as FUCK but can be broken up and snorted. we were up until 7 am last saturday night, btwn 4 people we snorted maybe 3 pills only over a couple hours and were all lit pretty nicely because one pill breaks up to at least 5 fat lines. i think when i weighed them they were btwn .42-.44 grams if that matters to anyone...and I've seen them being sold for $25/pop on here which is a huge fucking rip, but Fanny has them for only 5 right now so i'd recommend them....he hooked me up once w/free pills after i canceled so i gotta give him props for that as well, i know there has been complaints about his shitty communication.
verdict: good buzz for the price, probably less than 50% speed and a lot of caffeine and fillers. no meth in these if that's what you're looking for...i've fallen asleep within an hour of my last small line and i am very sensitive to meth (can't sleep for 24 hrs off a small amt)
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Juergen has let me down twice with low quality speed, will not order again.
Imprint (uncut amphetamine sulphate)sent me 1g when I ordered 2g and the quality is shit as it is not amphetamine, probably some caffeine and something else. 50mg make me dumb as a motherfucker for 2-3 hours and then insomnia.
My best experience was from Aakoven, except that the shipping was shit and I was lucky it cleared customs.
Though the prices are low per gram, they dont represent the quality at all.
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shout out to the dutch people: test test and test again
its only 2.5 euro 4 a lab test
help this sinking ship!
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I recommend GermanExpress....very nice quality of amphetamine
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I have now ordered 5g of SuperTrips and 5g of Amsterdopes Speed so that i can Test both !
I Also have asked Der Speed Doktor if he sell me a 1g Sample of the new White one he have now o replace the yellow Bullshit!
Because from him I wont at this time not by too mutch untill im not shure if its the money worth!
ordered: May 10, 2012, 9:30 pm UTC
Supertrips was the first who goes in transit, Amsterdope asked to finalize early and from der Doktor no Responze to my Question at this time !
Will update here how this experiment goes on !
Der Speed Doktor didnt response to my PM until now for my ask if he sell me a Small Sample to proof if its worth o invest more money in it!
He didnt even read it !
But he was online in this time, so he could have !
Is not the best Way to make Buissenes , i think!
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I see that this acetone washes have been very popular :)
But keep in mind that caffine is not washed away by acetone just dextro,malto,sugar..
To remove caffine you need methanol or ether (spell?) ;)
And you get pissed off when you read about 3-5% pureity and 80% caffine...
And caffine is not solveable in water and its turn to cotton or gel/jello instead..
First you do a acetone wash then try after to solve it with pure water and if its
turn to milk/gel/cotton its caffine inside also..
Fuck theese vendors how cut there stuff almost to zero >:(
Edit:Always use 100% chemical clean products(without oil).
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I see that this acetone washes have been very popular :)
But keep in mind that caffine is not washed away by acetone just dextro,malto,sugar..
To remove caffine you need methanol or ether (spell?) ;)
And you get pissed off when you read about 3-5% pureity and 80% caffine...
And caffine is not solveable in water and its turn to cotton or gel/jello instead..
First you do a acetone wash then try after to solve it with pure water and if its
turn to milk/gel/cotton its caffine inside also..
Fuck theese vendors how cut there stuff almost to zero >:(
Edit:Always use 100% chemical clean products(without oil).
Oh, caffeine is what makes it turn to milk, then gel! Thankyou for this info. :)
Its what I have been looking for. This would be especially bad when Iv'ing.. Fuck..
Stay safe.
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So my bitcoins finally arrived, now the question rises... Which to buy?!
My preference leans towards SuperTrips' phet but I guess i'll wait for the review...
Really need new cause my stash is nearly empty :'(
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I see that this acetone washes have been very popular :)
But keep in mind that caffine is not washed away by acetone just dextro,malto,sugar..
To remove caffine you need methanol or ether (spell?) ;)
And you get pissed off when you read about 3-5% pureity and 80% caffine...
And caffine is not solveable in water and its turn to cotton or gel/jello instead..
First you do a acetone wash then try after to solve it with pure water and if its
turn to milk/gel/cotton its caffine inside also..
Fuck theese vendors how cut there stuff almost to zero >:(
Edit:Always use 100% chemical clean products(without oil).
Oh, caffeine is what makes it turn to milk, then gel! Thankyou for this info. :)
Its what I have been looking for. This would be especially bad when Iv'ing.. Fuck..
Stay safe.
Caffine can be solved in acetone but requries 40ml to 1g caffeine :o.
So if you "wash" alot it will be pretty much acetone 8)
So it can be done but much easier with methanol or ether.
Grettings
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L3ZBeD64iE
Here is an easy tutorial how to clean your speed with aceton :)
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I would recommend washing with petroleum ether instead of acetone. The product I had left after doing a thorough wash using petroleum ether is kick-ass. The solvent is dirt cheap and can be bought at most supermarkets (you use it for removing stains and whatnot). Have a look at the wikipedia article to figure out alternative brand names, in case it is not called "petroleum ether" in your language. Also, since the doesn't cost very much, you can use a fair amount to wash your product, ensuring that most adulterants/fillers are dissolved and thus washed away.
Yes, I am quite spun at the moment :). Dosage? ~100mg of washed product intranasally. Woopwoop!
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I would recommend washing with petroleum ether instead of acetone. The product I had left after doing a thorough wash using petroleum ether is kick-ass. The solvent is dirt cheap and can be bought at most supermarkets (you use it for removing stains and whatnot). Have a look at the wikipedia article to figure out alternative brand names, in case it is not called "petroleum ether" in your language. Also, since the doesn't cost very much, you can use a fair amount to wash your product, ensuring that most adulterants/fillers are dissolved and thus washed away.
Yes, I am quite spun at the moment :). Dosage? ~100mg of washed product intranasally. Woopwoop!
How's it work? Is the amphetamine insoluble in petroleum ether but most adulterants are?
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^ yep it works like acetone, it dissolves *all* the cuts and leaves the amp, the way i do it (and i use acetone, its easier to get for me) is to add, with a dropper or syringe, just enough acetone to dissolve *all* the cut and just suspend the amp that is left over - from there you carefully filter it through the best quality paper or lab filters (coffee filters work) you can get and keep what is left in the filter, the acetone that flowed through should have the majority of the cuts in it, i keep it because it can be re-used. i then take what i have on the filter, scrap it off with a razor blade onto a pyrex tray then sit it over a hot water bath (a pot full of freshly boiled water) and wait for it to evaporate, DONT GET IT ANYWHERE NEAR AN OPEN FLAME or you will blow your face off at best, acetone is crazily flammable. make sure everything is well ventilated, clean and use good quality pyrex flasks/beakers/containers if you can, otherwise glass is ok. to purify it even more you can put the cleaned amp in a pyrex container and add drops of pure alcohol to the amp until it all dissolves then refilter, this time throwing away the filter (because the amp is soluble in the alcohol and the cuts arent, therefore the cuts get caught in the filter this time not the amp, its just the reverse of the acetone wash pretty much) sit it out for a while until most of the liquid is evap'd and then move it to the fridge, freezer or a cool dry area to finish the evap, what your left with should be damn near perfect and the slower you cool it the bigger and more lovely the crystals look. i also soak the filters in alcohol before filtering so they dont absorb anymore of the amp than necessary. you will definitely loose a little product but the majority of what you loose is shit and cut that is useless anyway (unless you're a scumbag dealer who likes cuts to make profit). start of with just the acetone wash if your curious, its easy as hell and you'll soon work out your method, its also quite fun and interesting. just remember to use the best quality materials as you can get, keep the place ventilated, dont smoke or light the stove or something stupid and use your brain and take it slowly. there's plenty of better, more refined and easier to understand ways of doing and explaining on sites like bluelight and drug.com. since learning it if i get crappy speed i usually at least give it an acetone wash now, provided it is actually speed, if its 84% caffeine and the rest who knows then its not even worth it. chuck it in the bin and go grab a nice piping hot cup of coffee.
i placed an order with imprint about a week ago and have been reading some pretty awful things about his amp sulf since, some people say good but most and the most recent say its total garbage. the 84% caffeine test result has me worried. sigh.
he's taken down his listings now which either means he's sold out or has realised how crap it is and didnt want a bad rep for the sake of small profit from dud speed. im a pretty seasoned amp user so ill report back with what i think of it when it arrives, my fingers are crossed.
if this turns out to be total shit im never ordering speed from here again. its sad because most of the speed around on SR seems to be average at best, i can get really good quality stuff from a friend but its just fucking expensive and a pain to organise at times. there is decent money to be made by people on SR if they sell quality speed but if the majority of sellers are hocking shit then it gives SR speed a bad name and people just lose faith and stop buying speed so no one bothers anymore and then everything is kaput and that is a sad thing... either that or people pick up their game and actually start selling what theyre advertising. i dont mind paying a little more for something that is what is said to be and is good quality, if even just 1 or 2 sellers start selling really good stuff then they'll set a standard that other sellers will have to reach to be able to be competitve.
but lets keep the reviews coming everyone, knowledge is power! ill report back about imprints stuff asap!
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if this turns out to be total shit im never ordering speed from here again. its sad because most of the speed around on SR seems to be average at best
Hey all you speed freaks: tired of buying bogus amphetamine sulphate that is for the most part just caffeine? Here's a suggestion: JUST STOP BUYING IT!! In the meantime do yourselves (and your wallet) a favor and perhaps experiment with some of the other stimulants that have far better customer reviews. Check out Erowid and do some research into alternative stimulants: coke,Khat, Meth, prescriptions,the 'experimental' drugs, or those 'ICE' pills all of which are far more likely to give you a buzz than any of the nonsense that is sold on here as 'Speed'. Even referring to it as 'Speed' is false advertising.
How anyone in their right mind could still continue to place orders for this 'European paste' despite the hundreds of lousy reviews and contemptible drug purity tests it's received in this thread is a truly remarkable testament to the desperation and masochism of the typical drug addict .Let's all give these dealers a clear message here:stop all the B.S. guys and just GIVE US QUALITY AMPHETAMINE!! (even if it costs a little more). As long as customers continue to buy shit they advertise as 'Speed' the dealers will be more than happy to continue selling it. I can imagine them all having a good laugh at our expense.
If I lived in England I would def be chewing on that east African shrub Khat which contains organic amphetamine everyday. I am really quite fond of that stuff. It's easily available in areas with a large African (Somalian,Yemeni) population.Unfortunately,the powers that be over here in N. America have decided (on our behalf) to protect us all and thus made yet another plant illegal.Thanks again Big Brother.
O.k. that was my last rant of the day...I am off to bed now. Night night! :)
P.S. much thanks to those more scientifically inclined on this thread who take the time and effort to expose shit that is less potent than a cup of coffee. Keep up the good work: we really appreciate it.
"Those who would sacrifice liberty for a little security deserve neither" Benjamin Franklin
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Is petroleum ether the same as naptha? Think I might have to get doing this
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=22954.0
Maybe when someone sees lots of interest he/she will start selling gooood shit :D
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Totally agree with comments if buyers on here keep up comments about quality of product maybe we will get better service when there sales of SHIT QUALITY THEY ARE PUNTING go plumitting .Inotice speed doctors off top spot no fuckin wonder eh .
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Is petroleum ether the same as naptha? Think I might have to get doing this
Yes it is. I can really recommend washing, it makes a huge difference.
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Is petroleum ether the same as naptha? Think I might have to get doing this
Yes it is. I can really recommend washing, it makes a huge difference.
Cheers. Am definitely going to give it a go next time I buy.
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I got 5 gram of the yellowish speed in the 420 sale.
Rather than cry the blues here about it I have sent a PM tot he speed doktor,
I'm thunking of going for meth - I mean, the way euro paste is these days I am thinking a weeny bit of meth would make you feel really stimulated! I see Afghan Apothacary has 50mg at 6 btclikely the value of 10 dexedrine!
Not sure if the dic replies to PMs but if he does I will let you know if I was treated fairly..
I can take my 10 BTC loss or any BTC loss as its mt pay money!
Even so - I expect that the goods received are as what they were stated. Here om SR be very careful as some jive slick advertising - and pics of produce that will look nothing like what you get,
The speed doktor has a good rep. Sadly most people buy goods - give it 5 stars just for arriving - some promise to update later on quality but few do. Maybe SR could make sure buyers get an automated reminder with a link to the comments they can change and report on effect and quality.
I bought 5 gram of speed off as vendor here - ended up taking 1.5 gram in five hours. Heart was beating as if I was meditating, I fell asleep at about 1.50am. No desire to make love. The other 3.5 gran was put down the sink and tspd puy om. Maybe some cod might get a bit seedy,
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I love reviewing these threads because so much can be learned
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Hopi8less, could that also be used to extract the D-amph out of prescription ADHD meds? I have a lot of 5mg Dexamphetamine tablets
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all sellers of amphetamine, have stuff shit , no one sells high quality stuff, but then why have all the feedback to 98% 97% ? These vendors have shit stuff, should have feedback 70% 75%, so no one buys from them, you have to stop giving to all 5/5, who sells shit stuff must have 1/5 or max 2/5, guys wake up wake up, let's not get screwed by these vendors >:(
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today i received the 2 Packs from Holland!
must Say both was really fast shipping ordered on Thurthday evening after 21:00 and today it was in my mailbox!
But the First Pack i opened was that one from Supertrips and ":o whats that " I thougth, there was Christalls in it!
Nearly white Christalls witch goes over in a ligth green!
And it didnt smell like Amphe!
So i cant say much about the Quality of Supertrips Speed!
The second one was from Amsterdope!
Smells good and comes with 5,3g in good weight !
More i cant say at this time about it, need to test it, will update then!
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today i received the 2 Packs from Holland!
must Say both was really fast shipping ordered on Thurthday evening after 21:00 and today it was in my mailbox!
But the First Pack i opened was that one from Supertrips and ":o whats that " I thougth, there was Christalls in it!
Nearly white Christalls witch goes over in a ligth green!
And it didnt smell like Amphe!
So i cant say much about the Quality of Supertrips Speed!
The second one was from Amsterdope!
Smells good and comes with 5,3g in good weight !
More i cant say at this time about it, need to test it, will update then!
Please give us a report, I also ordered from Amsterdope on Thursday, but am yet to receive anything. Perhaps the crystals are meth? I have been looking to buy meth, but only found US vendors so far.
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I have a bit of real 65% speed left in paste, and I have to say that undried it looks a little bit like crystals too.. Maybe SuperTrips' stuff is genuine. And remember, real amphetamine hardly smells at all ;)
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I think it cut be the MDMA hes selling, or Ketamin he got as Christalls!
But i didnt take it, 1. who knows what it is and 2. thats not that what i want!
I want Amphe!
The Amsterdope stuff i have tested now so far, and after the second line it feels OK, so its not the best, but its useable!
Its maybe half that strong as the batch that Speed Doktor got before that yellowish something!
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I think it cut be the MDMA hes selling, or Ketamin he got as Christalls!
But i didnt take it, 1. who knows what it is and 2. thats not that what i want!
I want Amphe!
The Amsterdope stuff i have tested now so far, and after the second line it feels OK, so its not the best, but its useable!
Its maybe half that strong as the batch that Speed Doktor got before that yellowish something!
Thanks for the update. :) How much did you ingest? And what method did you use? I have not done speed in more than 6 months, so I am hoping for the best.
Does anyone know where I can get hold of crystal meth (in Europe)?
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New seller emerged, says he's selling 70% purity.. Selling for reasonable price
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I think it cut be the MDMA hes selling, or Ketamin he got as Christalls!
But i didnt take it, 1. who knows what it is and 2. thats not that what i want!
I want Amphe!
The Amsterdope stuff i have tested now so far, and after the second line it feels OK, so its not the best, but its useable!
Its maybe half that strong as the batch that Speed Doktor got before that yellowish something!
Doubt it would be cut with ket or MD - both are more expensive per gramme and less potent.
Test it out and let us know what you think. I've seen very good speed that was pretty crystally before.
New seller emerged, says he's selling 70% purity.. Selling for reasonable price
GermanExpress? He has been getting good reviews, maybe I will test some but I am starting to like the idea of Supertrips's more.
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Wish jaycee started with SuperTrips's phet cause i'm starting to get really curious :P
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im not thinking he cut it with mdma, i think he changed the orders ::)
I think someone who waits on this christalls is now very pissed on, couse he got only cheap Amphe ;D
It has a totally different smell, so i think that cant be speed and his pictures look completly different from that stuff i get here!
And as i sayed , i want speed, not MDMA or something else!
So i dont will use it!
For me its only trowing away my money!
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im not thinking he cut it with mdma, i think he changed the orders ::)
I think someone who waits on this christalls is now very pissed on, couse he got only cheap Amphe ;D
It has a totally different smell, so i think that cant be speed and his pictures look completly different from that stuff i get here!
And as i sayed , i want speed, not MDMA or something else!
So i dont will use it!
For me its only trowing away my money!
Will you upload some pics on onionpic or something so we can see?
Big favour to ask but would be hugely appreciated if you did :)
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Awrite guys think gona order from premium dutch 10 g says fifty percent which i think very acceptable considerin some shit on sr .Offered 500 mg free samp but think gona go for it.Was gona try supertrips but jaycee comment put end to that .Ta for info dude
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HELP PREMIUM DUTCH OR GERMAN EXPRESS ?
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have now received an answer from Supertrips :
Oh crap... hehe. Well 5g MDMA (6,2g apparently) is worth 250$ or so, and you ordered for 50$. So you've got your money's worth, lol. I dunno who got your speed in stead of the MDMA.
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LOL, well... i'd say sell it or have some very awesome nights with friends :D
And fast dude, I really do not know.. maybe go for the sample first, I'll contact GermanExpress to see if he can send a sample..
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Fuck me mate thats all well if that wat you wanted .
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Haha! FUCK ;D Looks like you have a load of good nights ahead of you!
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Fuck me mate thats all well if that wat you wanted .
Maybe after a few dates, hehe. ;D
But I think it's better to take it slow and make sure we get good quality, so we can start spending our money on the right stuff.
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That 10 g order from premium dutch done .fingers crossed for quality will let you all know as soon as get.Seems sound guy .
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Wow GermanExpress already got back to me.
Hey ,
sure a sample is no problem at all. Would send you a 0.5g sample free of charge in return for a honest review in my thread (link can be found on my profile page).
Just give me a delivery adress and I will send it out asap.
Have a nice evening!
Awesome, props for that.
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Wow GermanExpress already got back to me.
Hey ,
sure a sample is no problem at all. Would send you a 0.5g sample free of charge in return for a honest review in my thread (link can be found on my profile page).
Just give me a delivery adress and I will send it out asap.
Have a nice evening!
Awesome, props for that.
I didn't try his speed yet, but that guy is really AWESOME. Communication is great!
I'll receive a sample of his speed in a couple of days. Will review here or / and in his thread of course. ;)
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Wow GermanExpress already got back to me.
Hey ,
sure a sample is no problem at all. Would send you a 0.5g sample free of charge in return for a honest review in my thread (link can be found on my profile page).
Just give me a delivery adress and I will send it out asap.
Have a nice evening!
Awesome, props for that.
I didn't try his speed yet, but that guy is really AWESOME. Communication is great!
I'll receive a sample of his speed in a couple of days. Will review here or / and in his thread of course. ;)
Same here :) Can't wait to test it.
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Hey guys, I ordered 1g from AspirantCooper.
He says it's >90% pure.
First let start off saying he is super friendly, and did not require early finalization.
Second, his order came one day earlier than his stated expected delivery time.
I've never done Amphetamine before. First time I snorted ~25mg. I was in a good mood and really productive for about 6+ hours.
Second time I took 40mg. It feels like MDMA with more clear headedness and without the love-y feelings. I'm in a super good mood and I haven't been this productive in a long time.
My friends have done speed before and they said usually you don't feel much. I'm guessing this guy isn't lying about the purity but unfortunately I don't know how to tell.
If anybody is looking for a Speed dealer who has some pure stuff for a good price, buy from Aspirant Cooper.
Sorry if this sounds like a commercial but I just feel so good, I have to give thanks to the guy.
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He better damn well be selling top notch quality cause his prices are about as high as cocaine..
If I had enough money I wouldn't be hanging out in this topic discussing which fragrance of speed is the least shitty, I'd be banging them 7gram rocks :P
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One speech to rule them all ;D "I want you to gad MAD! Open your window, stick your head out and yell: I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!"
Thought instantly about this movie and Peter Finchs speech in Network (1978). Who doesn't know what i'm talking about : Check it out...after all those years there is not a single spark of actuality lost in his words..
ID: QMBZDwf9dok
Fucking love the old bastard (may he rage in heaven ^^)
And after snorting 2 G of Lactulose/Caffeine/What the fuck-Ever it was (and putting the rest to sleep through the toilette) i can tell you... I'm mad as hell...
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Has anyone from Australia ordered any decent speed from overseas?
Does anyone know of any good speed vendors from UK, Canada or USA? These countries tend to give the best postage time to Australia.
And finally what would be a recommended dosage for a person new to speed?
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Does anyone know of any good speed vendors from UK, Canada or USA? These countries tend to give the best postage time to Australia.
Someone from this topic, fast dude, has ordered from PremiumDutch who claims to have around 50% purity. I guess you should wait for results from him. Btw, despite the name PremiumDutch he sells from the UK :P
And finally what would be a recommended dosage for a person new to speed?
Well I'm a fairly experienced user and when I go to an all-night rave I bring about 250mg of speed. This stuff is ~65% so it's quite potent. I'd say start with about 50-75mg and see how you react on it, really speed is something you have to 'learn' to use.
Also remember that when you take too much speed you can't sleep ;D So for beginning user I would start at around 50mg :) See how things work out.
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Ordered 1 gram from IMPRINT (Austria).. received 0,8 grams of shit quality. I have no tolerance at the moment and 0,3 doesn't do much and same for my fiance.
Worst crap I have received so far from SR...
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Thanks for the help. PremiumDutch is selling paste, does anyone sell the powder? I'm not sure which to try as a first time user. You eat the paste and snort the powder right?
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Received the "new" white or as announced old stuff, prior to the yellow stuff from the SpeedDoctor. Its definitely not the same. Really bad stuff again, just as bad as the yellow one. Huge Disappointment. Lucky that i just bought 5G. This was definitely my last purchase from him. 1 out of 4 orders it´s real great stuff, the other times... Fuck It :-(
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I'm still happy with the quality of Der Speed Doktors product.. 50mg orally makes for a very productive day of studying. (I washed it though, see my previous posts.)
I did some of Imprints speed this weekend, and it's definitely not as good. Not even close. Don't know about the other vendors..
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so guys ordered the last weeks from three different vendors:
Speeddoktor
German Express
Imprint
Let's say a have a bit experience in knowing amphetamines:)
Imprints stuff is weak and not as advertised...very overpriced
Speeddoktors' yellow paste....hmmmmm....really not much better...but ok for the price
The best Stuff was from the new Guy German Express....you really feel the lets say jittering,shivering after a while...you know that is more potent that the other two
but guys only my honest opinion
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Thanks for the help. PremiumDutch is selling paste, does anyone sell the powder? I'm not sure which to try as a first time user. You eat the paste and snort the powder right?
The paste you dry and than you get powder :D Use CD cover/mirror/anything flat, to put the paste on, chop it up, let it dry, chop it up some more and snort it 8)
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i cant find info about amphetamine sulphate solubility in methanol someone can help me?
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Well ive got good feelin about german express sendin me as well as few others half g samples .Got good vibes that he genuine so fingers crossed .Will give feedback on premium dutch stuff wen i receive . :) :D
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Ive asked premium dutch for a sample, see how it goes. If it really is that quality id be a happy bunny and a loyal customer.
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Well ive got good feelin about german express sendin me as well as few others half g samples .Got good vibes that he genuine so fingers crossed .Will give feedback on premium dutch stuff wen i receive . :) :D
See? It's all looking very bright at the moment :D
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Fuck it. Just placed the minimum order. I'll report back. Worth a punt id say. 8)
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i cant find info about amphetamine sulphate solubility in methanol someone can help me?
From the Merck Index:
White, odorless crystalline powder with slightly bitter taste. mp above 300° (dec). Freely sol in water (1:9); slightly sol in alcohol (about 1:500). Practically insol in ether. A soln of 1 g/10 ml water has a pH 5-6. LD50 in mice, rats (mg/kg): 24.2, 55 orally (Behrendt, Deininger).
I'm guessing it's about the same as ethanol.
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Report on 'der speed doktors' yellow paste sold during the 420 sale
First off I was addicted to speed or UK amphetamine sulphate back in the early 90s. A 6 month daily dabble eventually sent me over the edge!
Stuff I used to get ranged from ok to real banging gear that would keep you up for 24 hr even if you wet the end of the little finger and dabbed it.
But enough of the 'good old days' because it was not all good! You got ripped off - people obviously put various things in speed to up the weight and often the speed batches could be a bit 'dodgy', bad chemistry I suppose.
One speed was so bad anyone who took it actually stank like a amphetamine lab!! It also done nothing apart from create tinnitus int he ears!
Anyhow - enough 'back in the day' shit - we are dealing in the here and now.
So back to this speed doktors yellow paste.
It came very damp -- lost maybe half a gram in evaporation of whatever solvent was left in it! Still this would not be an issue IF it was good speed.
So I kep the speed a few days. I let it dry out which was done in a nice 70 degrees with little humidity. I decided to test it out one evening as my woman was out of town and to be honest I needed a boost to clean the place up of the cans and pizza shit that me and the lads left around listening to music and smoking some fine bud. Just an average day really!
Anyhow the lads got off so I got out this speed - by now well dried - the yellow not as pronounced but it was still there.
I weighed 100mg - set that on a mirror and divided the lines after crushing the pile of powder into a fine fine dust. Two quick snorts and up it went.
Initial reaction was a bit of an 'ouch, that hurt'. My sinus felt a sharp twinge almost as if my body was saying 'whoaa - don't do this shit'
I then weighed out 150mg - up the nose it went in two 75mg lines. If that does not work it must be poor speed.
Half an hour later I decides 'in for a penny in for a pound' and took 500mg orally wrapped in the obligatory rolling paper.
Half an hour after that I decided that it was possible another 750mg of the speed might make me inspired enough to wash the dishes,
No joy.
All I felt was painful sinuses - plus about as far away from a good speed encounter as I could possibly get.
I felt NO energy - no inspiration. Even a decent speed - 500mg usually has me running all over the place. I have decorated the house in a day on good speed! But the speed dokters speed was just laughable really.
I had thought to wash the speed with acetone or whatever we use - but I figure that the 1.5 gram I tested leads me imagine that f I did end up with any amphetamine out of this it would be grain of crystal like a grain of salt. Even injecting it would likely do no more than raise your eyebrows.
So, my 3 grams or so - I done another wash on it which worked perfectly!! I took the yellow speed and went to my sink. I put the taps on and threw the shit down the drain. I doubt that it will do any harm to any life form it comes into contact with.
I think I paid 10 BTC or so for the 5 grams. I did PM the speed doktor - and although I have PM'd other vendors it has never been to say that their product was just absolute rubbish.
In over 30 transaction so far with over 250 BTC spent and lot more lined up - I feel like I'm a model customer! I always finalize on time! I get my package sent to another address but ring each morning anfd drive to collect it. I finalize if it look like what it ought to be. I can come back later and spill the beans to others. I rarely PM vendors! I order - and wait. I imagine vendors get a lot of silly messages. I also destroy the vendors packaging ASAP. This is important!! All it needs is one trapped hair in a sealed bag and maybe PC IQ over 100 finds it.
I will not finalize before I get a product. I order small anyhow.
Anyhow so far I have had some great products off great vendors. I have been ripped off here way less than I would in real life! And in real life, sadly, you could not let 5 grams of speed go - if you accepted being ripped up the next thing you know you would have a reputation as an easy tough. So in real life the speed doktor would not last long as a speed dealer. Nobody sells rubbish in real life without comeback.
But for me - I accept its worth being burnt to at least know who is not a good dealer.
I did put a friend onto the speed doktor - so he bitcoined himself up (he is a computer whiz) and ordered 5 or 10 grams of the yellow!. I told him he ought to wash it ay least as there seems to be batches of differing yellows. One not so long back was good unless the dok is just setting up fake buyer accounts to praise it! (sorry if I am wrong but you cannot blame any for thinking that of a vendor because some have already fucked some of us without lube I might add. We got hurt lol. Tony will have caught multiple stds anyhow. I wish I had one to pass on - but life goes on. We live and learn with falls we take!
My speed is well and truly washed down the sink!!! Maybe I ought to learn a lesson and just buy some adderal and so on - got some Ritalin to try out but 10mg of that done nothing really. That said I hoovered up a little and on the Doktors yellow speed I basically just about had the energy to lay on the sofa and scratch my balls.
On a note of conjugal matters this speed is not exactly going to make your lady feel some some superstar porn movie guy in on the set! With good speed it always makes orgasm for men a long winded affair which means more action for the ladies! The doks yellow speed had me in the classic UK sexual position of flat out on my back - snoring - and not even an army of porn stars could have roused 'little red'. So that sucks - but luckily my women was away.
The night of the 1.5 gram speed marathon extended for 5 hours from the first line to maybe 3 hours after I took the 750mg. I should have been up all night - but ended up taking 10mg of valium at about 1.am but no need really as I was tired.
The next day I felt not so good. I was not wiped out like 1.5 grams of good speed would make you. I was just dog tired and to be honest I think speed is off my festival menu now. Had I saved this 5 gram and dished it out to the lads it would have been an embarrassment.
I am convinced that if you put the 5 grams in a goldfish bowl that the goldfish would not be affected - but do not worry I LOVE Fred and Ed my goldfish and would never hurt them. They make me happy.
Anyhow I did PM the speed doktor but no reply so far.. All I expect from vendors is fair deal for my buck.
I asked the doc for a refund minus the postage. I would NEVER do this unless a product was so poor it had no effect. I've had coke that was 'not so good' but would not dream of asking for refunds. But if I ordered coke and felt nothing then I think I would be due a refund!
I guess my chance of getting a refund is just a dream! The dok himself some admitted this yellow speed was not to their liking - this is diplomatic words which actually mean some customers thought it was just so poor it could not even get a 12 yr old high enough to be a menace in the classroom. Likely put him to sleep actually.
Some my experience of the yellow speed was about as poor an experience as you could actually have. It done NOTHING for me - and I'd not taken speed for years prior to the test. I should have been up all night on the original 50mg that went up each nose. I should have written book or coded something online!
Anyhow I asked for a refund nicely or if he has some good speed then he can send me some of that IF its good speed. In my books - all this 'don't get high off your own supply' is bullshit. If selling speed I would take a few grams of the batch and go out for a few few pints with the lads. If we drink ten pints each and talk shit all night and look for an after party its good speed!
I would not sell ANY weed or hash unless I thought it was good value. If I sold 5 gram of this yellow speed to ten customers in a pub I would definitely be handing back the money before the night was out.
I know the all powders are notoriously differing in potency. Unless the chemist really knows his stuff - a lot of coke, speed and heroin - right off THE original block - needs to mixed up to pharmaceutical grade standard to ensure even potency. The reason few people OD on heroin is basically down to the original block being mixed into two or three and then every hand that gets the block is mixing it further until street heroin evens out maybe 20% if you are lucky?
A kilo of coke that is an original block could have parts which are leftover alkaloids, or other waste that they never bothered to wash out with acetone because why waste a percentage when the 'gringo' will take it anyhow.
Anyhow I have never had coke as weak as this yellow speed. If Hitler had given this to the troops in WW2 we would have won that war on day one as the vast majority of the army had to lay down and take a nap.
I have another speed to test out plus my mate is going to wash his with acetone, plus whatever we can use to get rid of whatever is there. I seriously envision him getting maybe a couple of lines of speed - the sort that will be just be a tease - as two small lines of good speed is not enough. Maybe he will get more. Maybe I somehow ended up up with the scrapings of the bag and ended up with some yellow food dye powder or something.
I guess in my life I have spent over a year worth of night under the influence of speed. A good speed - I always take it orally - roughly 100mg to test it out. Ironically - I like to lie down and rest so this way I can judge the onset. Good speed you cannot lie down. You exercise. Stretch. Get up. Clean the teeth, Take a shower. you feel alive and want to be with people or maybe you got some work you need to do and a good speed can make you get that boring must do job done with ease!
Sadly the yellow speed I got I may as well have went to the UK shops and got a packet of coffee for roughly 0.3 BTC. 6 cups of that would have left me feeling more upbeat.
I did PM the dok before I put this report up - I expect a vendor to at least reply. they are quick enough to write reports out concerning product purity. If we even had 20% pure speed - we would all know about it. Sure you may need to take more but I think 1.5 grams of speed is WAY more than enough for a tester. If that does not work then what is the point of washing the stuff? A tiny tease of the stuff you should have been sold from the off!
Too many speed vendors are offering almost bunk product but its hyped up and so far I keep reading reports in which people really have little good to say about speed which is VERY expensive.
Maybe I am unlucky but I feel it is my duty to speak out about spending 10 BTC and getting pretty much nothing in return.
I can afford the loss. Anyone who buys without not being able to afford the loss is a fool! NEVER get people to throw in with you just on the hearsay of a few reports written bu anon people.
Maybe this yellow speed was the speed doktors 'fuck up' moment of life. He sells a lot - so buys a lot of batches. Each batch of speed differs. In the UK - most speed is so awful I have not been tempted for 15 years. Coke took over the speed market - it took over as the emergency drug to keep you interested at events such as Aunt Jills 90th - Perry Como on the disco - old guys talking about 'the war' (which is cool)
Speed in the UK is kinda not really up there with drugs being sold. There must be a reason. Speed usually would sell well. Unlike MDMA it can be used each weekend. Good speed always makes you feel 'great' and makes you bond with people and talk to anyone. Makes you work 48 hr and sleep 24 hr and be pretty much recovered after good meals and drinks.
Where is the good speed these days?
Everyone says they have it but if its that good why not offer 250mg samples for sale? - that would at least make sure guys and girls like me would be only out by less than a bit coin instead of being hit for fairly high prices as speed is only sold in 1,2,5 and 20 upwards. The few selling so called 90% pure,its too expensive and its looking like getting some crank or meth would be a better bet!
I am tempted actually. I bet a touch of good meth would seem like the good old days feeling of necking 500mg of bouncing speed!! But having had an addiction to speed maybe its actually 'good luck' getting taxed for 10 BTC. Even so - most people would be fuming mad at getting ripped off. im my book - if 1.5 grams of speed has NO effect then your getting ripped off. I'm not saying it was deliberate. Maybe the speed dok had to get more supplies for the sale and lost money also (if he refunded any repeat customers) I'd liketo the think the top five vendors I use would compensate me of things went wrong. So far SR has been great and I got some top quality drugs I would not see on the street. Its gave me some great nights and more to come as we all love to get a little high now and again.
Anyhow - I'd be happy for the speed dok to send me some speed that works. Maybe he has lots of people trying to scam him - after all speed addicts would lie to anyone to get more speed! In fact people in general, if they can get something for nothing a good 20% would lie if they had to.
I'm not a scammer. My vendors know that. Anyone who looks at my record here of transactions will see I have played a straight game. I don't like thieves who steal personal property off ordinary people or even rich people. Its wrong. The world would be a better place if we we were honest.
Anyhow - that's my story and the way things went for me.
Its not been a good experience with speed but I have two more batches to test out. I got my anhydrous acetone waiting. I will also use the bleach test - as speed ought to leave a reddish kind of trail as it sinks into a glass of ordinary bleach.
Thanks for reading.
Tempting though it it to 'save' money by buying 5 or 10 grams - try asking the vendor to do a gram so you can test it out. Explain how many vendors are selling speed but many aficionados of speed report that all is not well.
I'd sooner buy 250mg - that is more than enough good speed to keep you going for a good 8-13 hours.
PS - update - I washed a gram of another yellow speed doks and got 1 gram back! Its not a off white - no yellow left - slightly bitter taste and no smell.
Not tested it as I had some good coke which was effective at a 25 mg line!
Another new vendor is not offering supposed great speed at 2.5 BTC - see the end of the posts.
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Thanks for the awesome writeup redalloverthelandguyhere (of the not so awesome product, DR you know what the right thing to do is)
So as it stands the only speed that seems in anyway good is aspirantcoopers and juergens medical grade, Both very expensive but I supposes you get what you pay for. Does anyone know some links to good reviews of these products?
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Ive asked premium dutch for a sample, see how it goes. If it really is that quality id be a happy bunny and a loyal customer.
Post back here what you think of it. I'm probably going to get a sample too, but I'm new to speed so I will probably get like 50mg.
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Great read redlover, thanks for the story.
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Redalloverthelandguyhere, great story, couldn't agree more on the Doktor's 420's sale yellow, utter crap. As most of the speed and coke that I bought here. Wanted some speed because of the good memories of it from the past, same as with coke which I did not have since 2003 or so. I'll take a couple of hits just to know what's in there to write a review about, but will wash the rest right after. Only SafeSecureAir's., Noriega's and Dutchaanbod's first batch coke were good enough to use right out of the box. Have not tried the usa and cdn sellers yet.
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A short review of Pfandleiher's speed:
Took under 0.1g (bomb) and woah! Gotta say that shits very good.
Again, 2/2 envelopes came here (Finland) in six days (weekend included). Vacuum sealed and everything just went as expected.
I don't need to do business with other than Pfandleiher because he has got everything I need, and provides excellent prices, quality and communcation.
Thank you!
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I got 5 grams from Der Speed Doktor before the 4/20 sale and I can confirm what is said above, the speed is not potent enough, I have to get many things done and this does not suffice.
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which german guy wants to resell my Speed ? ;D
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Amsterdopes stuff is not the best, but its the money worth!
Supertrips wants now send me a sample for the missmatched deal!
Pfandleihers stuff i tested allso, its not that strong as speed doktors last "good" batch but very "clean smell and taste" its a good Produkt i think!
If he can wait for me to open my seller account then im his man! 8)
I hope so!!! :-[
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Fuh, I've been off for quite a while, lots of new posts to crunch through.
A little off-top perhaps, but like I last reported, I've ordered 5g of the Der.(shit)Doctor's obvious crap over a month ago, seeing the ****load of feedback from those days up till now, im actually pretty GLAD it didn't arrive. Although my stupid ass finalized early after being promised a refund / reship at the SR resolution center, he never came to deliver either of his claims...in my eyes {fuck everybody's positive feedback} he's a scammer and will always be so, im finished with that fella.
Threw him at least 5 messages, non replied over a course of several weeks, this is a prime example how money is thrown down the drain, learn from it, seriously <-!! and to think I've actually paid 15btc [60€] fuck yeah.
Looks like It was just a matter of time before my streak of positive experience comes to an end in regards to SR.
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ok i just received my package from imprint - here is my 'product review'
shit.
haha honestly and i actually hate saying this because after chatting with imprint i came to like him/her and think he/she is a decent person but maybe has little idea of what decent speed is but the stuff is rubbish. probably the 3rd worst speed i have ever bought over the many years i have used and i am a regular user - 3-4 grams a month easily. it is definitely cut to shit with caffeine, i know this because in my idiotic uni days my friends and i would buy packets of no-doz and crush and snort them while drinking for no reason other than out of sheer desperation to mimic the drugs we couldnt afford. sad but true. so i know exactly what snorted caffeine smells, feels and tastes like (from the drip) and this 'speed' has caffeine written all over it. whoever imprint bought it off obviously knows how to scam and cut their speed because the product has a very prominent amp smell to it, if i was to be offered it to buy judging on smell alone i would definitely recognise it as amp and probably think it was far better quality than it actually is, they did a damn good job of being scumfuck drug dealers. there is amp in there, very very little and there could well be another RC amp mixed in but basically i spent 4.5 BC on caffeine. thats an expensive, shit tasting coffee.
ill do an acetone wash if i get the chance to see what happens but my guess is itll just turn into a gloppy mess and if i do actually manage to clean it i might get a crystal the size of a grain of rice or 2 from the gram.
avoid at all costs, this stuff is total horse shit. i pay many times more for the stuff i buy from a friend than i did with this stuff but 99 times out of 100 its very good quality stuff. if you guys from the states of EU want to try some decent amp try a gram from australia (however our speed is 90 times out of 100 actually cut meth, ive never seen sulfate here and had freebase a few times) or pay the money and get some of the expensive 'medical grade stuff', or buy some meth.
to be fair to imprint shipped fast and discreetly, it was .2 overweight so at least he tried and he/she/whatever communicated pretty well. i hear his mdma is some of the best around and although his speed is complete garbage i think he is a good person who probably doesnt really know too much about amp (i could be wrong but anyone who advertises this shit as quote "uncut amphetamine sulfate" is either a liar or ignorant as hell and i think he falls into the second catagory) and maybe is used to having cut shitty awful speed.
anyway the moral of the story is dont buy speed off imprint, maybe try his mdma or other products but DO NOT buy his caffeine cut with amp (thats not a grammatical error by the way haha).
ill report back if with the results of the purification if i can do it before i leave for a business trip. goodluck everyone and remember to post back your reveiws and make sure you give the seller the appropriate feedback on SR so other people dont get burned like most of us on this fucking depressing thread!
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GermanExpress kindly agreed to send some amph. samples :) will post my feedback next week
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Recieved premium dutchs today. Looks very white, smells like speed, but not really strong, but thats not always the best inicator considering speed should be odourless. Desription says paste, but bag looks pretty dry. Dabbed a tiny tiny bit and tastes like speed, but have tasted much stronger back in the day. Will probably sample some on the weekend. Watch this space. As for service and delivery, first class.
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Pfandleiher`s stuff is the best. :)
first quality speed, pure and clear effectively, just as it should be!
but whether speed, mdma, pills, hash. everything from the finest!
if someone is the best quality at the best looking award, since it just right with him!
clearly the number 1 on silkroad.
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Pfandleiher`s stuff is the best. :)
first quality speed, pure and clear effectively, just as it should be!
but whether speed, mdma, pills, hash. everything from the finest!
if someone is the best quality at the best looking award, since it just right with him!
clearly the number 1 on silkroad.
Comparing to who?
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Is there anyone that sells good speed that is smokeable. Got some speed off Juergen a little while ago, it was crap. It was funny the day after I ordered I was reading some of his reviews and people were saying it was below average speed, the next day all those reviews had disappeared
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Premium dutch stuff ,good coms ,very fast delivery .Not wat meant to be .White pasty RC .
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Yeah I have been looking at premium dutch stuff, don't think it would be smokeable though??? What is the deal with the speed being paste, other stuff I got only took less than 10mins to dry out, but I did lose about 20% in weight. Where I'm from speed is mostly dry so you can always rack up
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Have been thinkin about tryin MDVP I remember hearing about it a couple of years ago but never got any. It sounds like you only need a tiny bump, but what is too big a bump and is it that dangerous?? I just like being wired
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Is there anyone that sells good speed that is smokeable. Got some speed off Juergen a little while ago, it was crap. It was funny the day after I ordered I was reading some of his reviews and people were saying it was below average speed, the next day all those reviews had disappeared
The kind of speed we discuss in this thread (racemic amphetamine sulphate) is generally considered to be non-smokeable. There are a bunch of threads about it on Bluelight. If you want something smokeable, order methamphetamine instead.
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Even if it is not speed I will put it here..
After bad experience buying so called "european speed" on SR, I decided to try some RC (4-FMA) from Swedish vendor instead... and finally I got something that values every single bitcoin spent. :)
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Even if it is not speed I will put it here..
After bad experience buying so called "european speed" on SR, I decided to try some RC (4-FMA) from Swedish vendor instead... and finally I got something that values every single bitcoin spent. :)
Nice to hear :). In my experience 4-FMA is not anything like regular amphetamine, but still pretty enjoyable. I suppose it depends on what you use it for.
If you want a functional speed buzz using a halogenated amphetamine RC I'd recommend 2-FA (which I've used extensively) or 3-FA. Both of them have a nasty tendency to put a lot of strain on your circulatory system though.
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So I just received my package from Amsterdope. Very nice packaging!
Will open the parcel and examinate its contents and post an update.
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I just recieved 1.5g of semiquality speed. I have no open orders so I dont know who to thank. And Im also a little bit afraid that some vendor has my name and adress and are sending me either a free sample or arsenic for a bad feedback. We will find out about the arsenic in a few hours btw!
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Thats heaps better than opening a letter and it being a bill.... exept i spose if it is arsenic thats melting away your cranium
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I just received some of juergen's medical grade. I am curious as to its composition. How can I send a sample in to be tested and where? How much would that cost?
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I just received some of juergen's medical grade. I am curious as to its composition. How can I send a sample in to be tested and where? How much would that cost?
Let us know how dood it is, I got some of his paste and it was crap, I just want some good old fashioned speed where when you have a line it feels like your skeleton wants to rip out of your body, something that once you have had a line when you are ready for another you question yourself if you really need it, not this crap where you rack up nearly half a gram in one line. I don't care if it burns so much that you feel like you have to keep sniffin in case your brain starts runnin out. Just good speed that when you give a friend a line you stand back and watch them then their eyes are pinned and the tell you fuck thats good shit. Anyone know of some??
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Please let us know how good the medical grade from juergen is! It seems to be our best bet for quality speed at the moment. Be careful though, pure amphetamine is very potent!
And we need you alive to report back.....:-D
The speed situation (online and in real life) is really annoying. It's by far and away my favorite substance, and worldwide huge amounts of it are made legally and illegally. So why the hell can I not get decent stuff without paying huge amounts for a single adderall pill?! I had a decent batch of stuff from the Speed Doktor but there have been so many bad reviews since that I'm unwilling to order again.
The culture of adulteration in speed is really strange.... I have never had cocaine that is cut as badly and speed always seems to be. I would be happy with 40% purity but even that seems to be out of reach.
80% caffeine is fucking disgusting. It feels NOTHING like amphetamine and if you snort 400mg of the stuff you are gonna feel beyond terrible. If you have to cut it, just cut it with glucose for fuck's sake!
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Yeah I don't understand why it gettin so cut these days. I bought this legal stuff called DMAA powder (or something like that) it burnt like a mother fucker when you had a line, but 2 pretty big lines did the trick. It was better than most of the speed I have been coming accross and it was only$1 a gram. But it really fuckin burnt goin up, I felt like my eye was going to pop. Yeah I don't know what the last stuff I had was cut with it was almost like talcom powder, it was crap it just whent like flour and water up your nose, at least with glucose it melts up your nose once it warms up and gets wet, then you can suck it back and get that lovely taste which suprises you every time
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I just did about a 1.5 inch line of the stuff. It is a little"greasy" (doesn't powder) or wet maybe unlike coke, for example. I think all the speed I have tried is slightly "wet" like this. The line burned pretty good and it takes about 30 minutes to start feeling it. The feeling is a bit more jittier than adderall is, maybe some caffeine? I will update in an hour.
Update: After about 45 mins I am not feeling much, although I have been taking adderall and speed somewhat regular over the last few weeks. Adderall is weight-for-weight stronger than this medical grade amphetamine phosphate. I am going to weight out 30mg and take that, and will update in 45-60 mins.
After taking another 1-2 inch line (my scale is broken) I notice the feeling. It feels clean and good, a bit more recreational feeling than adderall. From my experience with uppers, I would consider this stuff to be high quality and uncut. I don't feel like there is any meth or large amounts caffeine in it. I am enjoying the feeling and it is helping me study which is why I got it. So, in conclusion, while it is not as strong as adderall, I would definitely buy this again.
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Recieved premium dutchs today. Looks very white, smells like speed, but not really strong, but thats not always the best inicator considering speed should be odourless. Desription says paste, but bag looks pretty dry. Dabbed a tiny tiny bit and tastes like speed, but have tasted much stronger back in the day. Will probably sample some on the weekend. Watch this space. As for service and delivery, first class.
Please let me know how you found the quality to be.
Premium dutch stuff ,good coms ,very fast delivery .Not wat meant to be .White pasty RC .
How sure are you of this?
I placed an order recently with PremiumDutch despite not finding a good quality review for his speed (he only recently started selling speed I think as his feedback has mostly mdma reviews and reviews from other products he has sold). He has a very good rating, was selling in the UK, so I decided to go for it. At 35.5 USD for two grams, which works out to be just over £11 for a gram, I thought the price was decent, not amazing but as it's shipped from the UK and claimed to be 50% quality (which is supposed to be pretty good if it really is 50% right?) I thought it was the best option to go for.
The order was dispatched very quickly and the packaging was good, no problems there whatsoever.
Now I have no previous Amphetamine experience but due to the lack of reviews I will give this a shot anyway.
The product is a very white paste, slightly lump and quite sticky, a strong chemical floral smell, first impression was good, it looked and smelled what I thought amphetamine would look and smell like. I didn't weigh it but it looked to be on-weight.
I bought two grams of the stuff and was extremely anxious to give this a try as I have tried a lot of drugs but for some reason never tried amphetamine (I've tried Cocaine, heroin, MDMA, LSD, and more). So I open a cd case and pour some of the sticky lumps on the inside of the cd case, get an old card out and start chopping, I didn't weigh the dose but It must of been around 100mg, that's what I was aiming for. I'm average size and height, quite slim, and usually don't need a lot to get good results from drugs. So 100mg seemed like a good amount, I wasn't going for a long powerful speed session, just wanted to spice up a boring day.
So after a bit of chopping it starts turning powdery (not a dry fine powder but a slightly sticky fine but not very fine powdery type consistency). I then start shaping it into one line which turned out to be a lot bigger than I expected so I made it into two smaller ones. Using a thin straw I snorted one of the lines, it went well, not too far, just right. I think there was a very slight tingly/burning sensation but only very mild. I didn't know the onset time although I assumed it to be a couple of minutes (which after research appears to be correct), after a couple of minutes I don't really feel anything so I take the other line, I wait some more and I can feel SOMETHING but it's extremely subtle. I haven't slept a lot and my memory isn't the best. But I remember taking several lines (about 100mg each I think, they were pretty thick and long) I was surprised at how much I needed, after a couple lines though maybe 5-7 (500-700mg) I start feeling something nice, although very subtle. I feel the speediness I feel when taking MDMA, at the time I was on my computer and couldn't stop typing, although no twitching or jaw clenching/biting. I also felt very well, not really happy like on MDMA, but satisfied, I was enjoying it a lot despite it not being anywhere near as intense as I was expecting. I think I took a couple more lines, in total it probably lasted a couple hours followed by a couple hours of mild well being.
Now, is 500mg really a standard dose for a mild amphetamine high? Taking line after line and stuffing what felt like quite large volumes of powder up my nose didn't feel right. I did the lines for a couple of hours then had a break. After about maybe twelve hours of taking the first line I decided to have another session (I had smoked some weed before my second session, don't know if that could of had an effect on my second session) and started chopping up line after line and snorting, after a while it felt like my nose was too stuffed with powder to fit any more in and I started getting quite strong burns so decided to give it up. Despite snorting several lines in the second session (500-600mg) I don't recall feeling anything apart from slightly more alert and being able to stay up the whole night without sleeping. The following day was followed by feeling quite bad, probably my fault for not drinking and eating, after drinking some water, eating something light, an Xanax, some weed and a couple hours sleep I feel a lot better now although still pretty unwell.
I really do not want to bring the reputation down of a good seller, but I also think this had to be said. To be honest, everyone on SR seems to be selling shit speed so I'm not really surprised by the experience, although disappointed. Unless my experience was actually a good one compared to others? Like I said before, I'm a complete speed noob so I don't know, I'm just being honest and hopefully experienced people can shed some light on my experience with his speed, and hopefully a couple more people can post reviews.
I haven't finalized but am considering contacting the seller for a partial/full refund and/or leaving bad feedback IF it turns out that the quality is bad, if my experience is normal here then I will be fair and leave my 5/5 rating. I don't want to cause any trouble or problems, I just wanted to enjoy some good speed which left me with a disappointing experience and a loss of my hard earned money.
"Fast dude" said it wasn't amphetamine but an RC although didn't go into details so I'm not sure how true this is. Is it possible for an RC to have the same floral smell?
So guys, was my experience normal (having to go through over half a gram for a mild/mellow high) then not being able to feel anything at all after another 0,5g+? I probably have about half a gram left. I might wait until my tolerance goes down and then do the whole thing at once instead of leaving time in between lines. Although the mild high in combination with the very uncomfortable comedown doesn't really seem worth it, I might just throw or give it away. I thought 2 grams was supposed to last a while (maybe taking 300-400mg) for a strong long euphoric high as opposed to 600mg+ for a feeble speedy feeling that faded relatively quickly although had a long period of mild well being afterwards. And I'm feeling pretty shit now which is the sort of thing I would expect from a binge lasting several days, not a one day 2 session streak.
I'm not bothered about the 8 bitcoins or whatever it was, it's more the principle. I don't want shit drugs being sent to my address even if they're free, I want quality and happy to pay for it, the option just doesn't seem to be here.
Maybe some experienced users can shed some light on my post/experience?
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Ordered 10 grams of paste from SuperTrips, 4 days EU - EU. The listing claims 60-65% pure which I can't test but I can tell you it's VERY strong and clean :D try some yourself!
Jabba
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I've just asked SuperTrips if he could provide me with a custom order for 1g of speed. There's been some good reviews and some average ones.
I used to get *proper* amphetamine sulphate direct from the biker gangs in Melbourne back in the day - where 30mg would make you horny as sin, and keep you up for 24 hours, so if this goes ahead i'll be sure to do a proper review.
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Let us know how dood it is, I got some of his paste and it was crap, I just want some good old fashioned speed where when you have a line it feels like your skeleton wants to rip out of your body, something that once you have had a line when you are ready for another you question yourself if you really need it, not this crap where you rack up nearly half a gram in one line. I don't care if it burns so much that you feel like you have to keep sniffin in case your brain starts runnin out. Just good speed that when you give a friend a line you stand back and watch them then their eyes are pinned and the tell you fuck thats good shit. Anyone know of some??
Buy 10g of average speed, wash it with one or two appropriate solvents and ta-da: proper skeleton-ripping speed. You might not get more than a few grams left after the wash though. I use first petroleum ether to get rid of crap that might be left after the initial synthesis, and then acetone to get rid of crap that the sulphate has been cut with. Admittedly it's a bit of extra work, but it's worth it.
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Let us know how dood it is, I got some of his paste and it was crap, I just want some good old fashioned speed where when you have a line it feels like your skeleton wants to rip out of your body, something that once you have had a line when you are ready for another you question yourself if you really need it, not this crap where you rack up nearly half a gram in one line. I don't care if it burns so much that you feel like you have to keep sniffin in case your brain starts runnin out. Just good speed that when you give a friend a line you stand back and watch them then their eyes are pinned and the tell you fuck thats good shit. Anyone know of some??
Buy 10g of average speed, wash it with one or two appropriate solvents and ta-da: proper skeleton-ripping speed. You might not get more than a few grams left after the wash though. I use first petroleum ether to get rid of crap that might be left after the initial synthesis, and then acetone to get rid of crap that the sulphate has been cut with. Admittedly it's a bit of extra work, but it's worth it.
Yeah I might have to look this up on how to do, I just don't find much point in doing crap. If your gona do it do it properly and the do it the best you can and in style. I remember when you made 1point into 3 lines, it sux to take drugs and then say to the person "so what did you think???"(SHIT). Just cant understand why someone can't sell good uncut stuff, obviously it would sell at a high price but it would mean you would need to buy less weight which I think is favorable going through the mail, I would rather only have 2grams in an envelope than 10
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I just want some good old fashioned speed where when you have a line it feels like your skeleton wants to rip out of your body, something that once you have had a line when you are ready for another you question yourself if you really need it, not this crap where you rack up nearly half a gram in one line. I don't care if it burns so much that you feel like you have to keep sniffin in case your brain starts runnin out. Just good speed that when you give a friend a line you stand back and watch them then their eyes are pinned and the tell you fuck thats good shit. Anyone know of some??
Yeah. It's called Crystal Meth. Best fucking Stim on the planet.
"Drug misuse is not a disease it's a decision:
Like the decision to stand in front of a moving car."
Phillip K. Dick
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So after about 6 - 8 hours of doing a rather large amount of Juergen's medical grade amphetamine phosphate (probably around 60-80mg since my scale is broken), I am still extremely hyped up. I now would not be surprised if it contains meth. I am going to get a urine testing kit tomorrow and find out the truth. Does the phosphate form of amphetamine maybe break down slower and get absorbed slower than Adderall, which would explain why I am still so high? If it does break down slower and get released slower, that would explain why ~70mg still has me feeling like I am tweaked out... I will update tomorrow.
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When you get your urine kit, please make sure it is one that includes pH, etc.
Amphetamine excretion is highly pH dependent.
Startpage/google for "amphetamine urinary pH" and you'll have more than you ever wanted. *Very* oversimplifed version - as urine pH goes down, amphetamine excretion goes up. If urine pH has increased, amphetamine excretion slows.
Before changing doses or anything else, consider that one factor. If nothing has changed at all in diet/exercise/other drugs/GI/health, fine. But urine acidity/alkalinity makes such a huge difference that... well. Leave it at: It makes a HUGE difference in how fast you clear the drug, and understanding how different ingestions will affect the acidity/alkalinity of urine is a big long discussion unto itself.
Tl;dr : there is a pretty common real-world explanation for a varying length of action with a stable dose/stable drug.
Although since you aren't even sure *how much you took,* with a broad range of possible dosing, and you've been without a scale for a while apparently, which brings up the possibility of perception 'drift' and being even less likely to 'guesstimate' accurately ... it seems like the variance in this case might be explained by other factors.
Sorry if this urinary pH issue is already covered at length elsewhere, "search" keeps telling me to try again. I'll edit a link back in later if I come across it.
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So I just received my package from Amsterdope. Very nice packaging!
Will open the parcel and examinate its contents and post an update.
So how was it?
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Recently ordered the "Dutch Speed Paste" from juergen2001 and I was really disappointed. It keeps you awake if you take a lot, but that's kinda it..
But as it looks reading through this thread this is a common problem with the speed here on the road, this is sad. I had so many great experiences with the cannabis and MDMA I got here, but the speed seems to lack this high level of quality.
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Another new vendor started selling speed.. claims 70% as well.. Gonna ask for a sample since he doesn't have any feedback at all. He only ships to EU btw..
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seems like a lot of shit going around
oh, just the sellers with little amounts.
I bought the last 30 days speed by 4 seller
Blaatz0r and dagobert: sucks bad
Der Speed Doktor and SuperTrips: good quality
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Another new vendor started selling speed.. claims 70% as well.. Gonna ask for a sample since he doesn't have any feedback at all. He only ships to EU btw..
Alright he said no free samples, but he was willing to double 1gram to 2gram for free. So I ordered 1 gram and now all I can do is wait :p
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seriously people. u cannot go on wishful thinking and a nice buzz... most of the "speed" on this silk road is just bogus and it has been proven that the feedback system is dodgy or rigged.
i am not buying here anymore.
if u want real drugs its like it always was, u have to hang out with people who do a lot of drugs and get connected. that is what it takes and the regular (read : addicted) users do know quality from shit.
i really had my hopes for this online system but its just not working. do u really wanna put stuff up your nose/vein u bought from a computerscreen without having actually met a human being?
this is my point of view and i want to share it.
and if u are buying here, try to look for somebody who has labtested a product from a vendor. i know that dutch users can go to a test service for virtually nothing and get a lab read-out of their drugs. my two tests of speed on this forum were almost pure caffeine (still better than rat-poison :-)
ok take care (and drugs)
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Need to provide a amphetamine labtest..
Iam sitting on 1kg "shit" and need proof that it is "shit" >:(
So I need help now :'(
We know thats its contain:
Dextro(sugar)
Caffine
Kreatin
Magnesium
And probebly something else that we not can detect..
Suggestion?
I can ship within EU if someone nice person
could help me..
Payment isnt any problem ;)
Grettings
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Well I just took a urine test after not being able to sleep last night. It was NEGATIVE for methamphetamine and positive for amphetamine only! It now makes sense...Juergen's medical grade is VERY high quality, so much so I mistook the strength of it for meth. Sorry for causing doubts, but Juergen's product is extremely legit!!
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Well I just took a urine test after not being able to sleep last night. It was NEGATIVE for methamphetamine and positive for amphetamine only! It now makes sense...Juergen's medical grade is VERY high quality, so much so I mistook the strength of it for meth. Sorry for causing doubts, but Juergen's product is extremely legit!!
Thats cool to hear, too bad he stopped selling it :p
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Juergen's speed has already been confirmed to contain meth when lab tested. Even if he claims to have fixed this in future products, I would still never trust the guy or buy from him - he said it was confirmed straight from the cook, and when you lie like that you lose all credibility in the future. He's just in it for the $$$....
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=00a8e83fba622da92e0bf566c2c4fdc3.jpg
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Juergen's speed has already been confirmed to contain meth when lab tested. Even if he claims to have fixed this in future products, I would still never trust the guy or buy from him - he said it was confirmed straight from the cook, and when you lie like that you lose all credibility in the future. He's just in it for the $$$....
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=00a8e83fba622da92e0bf566c2c4fdc3.jpg
You are confusing his low grade stuff with his high grade stuff (I've tried both). $15 a gram versus $100. Also I just proved it doesn't have meth. So...
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Need to provide a amphetamine labtest..
Iam sitting on 1kg "shit" and need proof that it is "shit" >:(
So I need help now :'(
We know thats its contain:
Dextro(sugar)
Caffine
Kreatin
Magnesium
And probebly something else that we not can detect..
Suggestion?
I can already see the problem it contains no amphetamine. Ouch!
I can ship within EU if someone nice person
could help me..
Payment isnt any problem ;)
Grettings
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I just want some good old fashioned speed where when you have a line it feels like your skeleton wants to rip out of your body, something that once you have had a line when you are ready for another you question yourself if you really need it, not this crap where you rack up nearly half a gram in one line. I don't care if it burns so much that you feel like you have to keep sniffin in case your brain starts runnin out. Just good speed that when you give a friend a line you stand back and watch them then their eyes are pinned and the tell you fuck thats good shit. Anyone know of some??
Yeah. It's called Crystal Meth. Best fucking Stim on the planet.
"Drug misuse is not a disease it's a decision:
Like the decision to stand in front of a moving car."
Phillip K. Dick
Yeah my favorite too, only problem is once I've got it I just guts it all til its gone, I have no problem keepin a pipe next to the bed and havin as soon as IO wake up.
Bummer Juergen's medical grade has gone it sounded like it might not be too bad, at the moment I think the best option is to crush some meth and hoover that up, just waitin for some to arrive
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Well,this vendor have good reputation here on SR.
And they dont understand me complaing >:(
Now they want to do a refund for 1/4 kg...
Wonder why..
But they can fuck them self >:(
Money isnt everything 8)
Maybee someone in NL is able to send in a
test?
Need to provide a amphetamine labtest..
Iam sitting on 1kg "shit" and need proof that it is "shit" >:(
So I need help now :'(
We know thats its contain:
Dextro(sugar)
Caffine
Kreatin
Magnesium
And probebly something else that we not can detect..
Suggestion?
I can already see the problem it contains no amphetamine. Ouch!
I can ship within EU if someone nice person
could help me..
Payment isnt any problem ;)
Grettings
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Need to provide a amphetamine labtest..
Iam sitting on 1kg "shit" and need proof that it is "shit" >:(
So I need help now :'(
We know thats its contain:
Dextro(sugar)
Caffine
Kreatin
Magnesium
And probebly something else that we not can detect..
Suggestion?
I can ship within EU if someone nice person
could help me..
Payment isnt any problem ;)
Grettings
I can see the problem where it says what it contains I find it best when the first ingredient is amphetamine. Ouch!
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Need to provide a amphetamine labtest..
Iam sitting on 1kg "shit" and need proof that it is "shit" >:(
So I need help now :'(
We know thats its contain:
Dextro(sugar)
Caffine
Kreatin
Magnesium
And probebly something else that we not can detect..
Suggestion?
I can ship within EU if someone nice person
could help me..
Payment isnt any problem ;)
Grettings
I can see the problem where it says what it contains I find it best when the first ingredient is amphetamine. Ouch!
Ok,my bad ;)
It contains amp but probebly not much :(
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Need to provide a amphetamine labtest..
Iam sitting on 1kg "shit" and need proof that it is "shit" >:(
So I need help now :'(
We know thats its contain:
Dextro(sugar)
Caffine
Kreatin
Magnesium
And probebly something else that we not can detect..
Suggestion?
I can ship within EU if someone nice person
could help me..
Payment isnt any problem ;)
Grettings
I can see the problem where it says what it contains I find it best when the first ingredient is amphetamine. Ouch!
Ok,my bad ;)
It contains amp but probebly not much :(
Just givin you a bit of crap no harm intended. Its a bummer doin the big buy and its a dud. Hope all goes well
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So I just received my package from Amsterdope. Very nice packaging!
Will open the parcel and examinate its contents and post an update.
So how was it?
It was not bad at all! Decent speed for the price and with fast shipping. Though I prefer crystal meth, but what can you do? ;)
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ANY real feedback on supertrips or german express stuff yet ?
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edit: Hah, just noticed der Doktor has taken down his listings.
Some more information on the so called "white batch" from Der Speed Doktor.
I tried dissolving some of it into room temperature saline solution. The solution became very sludgy (not due to too much amphetamine, mind you) in a way that usually indicates that there are binders and coating from crushed pills mixed with the amphetamine. I did an acetone wash (had only washed it with petroleum ether before) and my stash got about 25% lighter.
I have no idea about the adulterants solubility in acetone, so there might still be a bunch of crap in there. Just wanted to point out that my initial assessment a few pages back (~65-70%) is obviously wrong. The purity is likely to be much lower, perhaps even lower than 50%.
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Well..I just flushed the remaining grams of Imprint's and Aspirant Cooper's 'speed' down the toilet. Just got so tired trying to snort what has consistency of dried toothpaste up my nose for trying to get the same buzz I can get from a can of Red Bull.
I think I'll just stick with Meth... thanks.
"Drug misuse is not an disease it's a decision:
like the decision to stand in front of a moving car."
Phillip K, Dick
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Good work Valentine, some ether would be very useful.
I have been washing some of the speed docs yellow batch from the 420 sale - there may have been two yellow batches.
I done a acetone wash on one gram. I then dried the amphetamine in the oven as I intended to test some. Then went off that idea so I decided to grind up the washed amphetamine and wash again because you need a fine powder to get at all the crap.
Lo and behold a second wash has seen more cuts extracted.
The amphetamine has lost its yellow color also. I have take 50% of the weight so far and have 500mg of 'amphetamine' left. An ether wash is going to get at more stuff.
I have some UK speed to wash also - two batches. They are both white powder.
I don't know if anyone has ever heard back from the Doktor when complaining about quality. So far nothing I bought here was so bad that I'd want or even ask for a refund. One incident I got sent the wrong package - vendor let me keep it and sent a second wrong package. We all have bad days! Vendor refunded me in full and I got 10 grams of hash free.
Given a few people here have stated that the yellow batch was shit I think the dok ought to have compensated those of us who did complain. Some got a yellow amphetamine and seemed to like it.
So if your looking to buy amphetamine, just bear in mind that you need to invest in acetone, source some ether and read up on the process.
Amphetamine used to be always strong - you can cut good amphetamine to 30% and it would be still banging. Trouble is some cuts make the amphetamine into something else.
Maybe I was unlucky with the Speed Doktor. Maybe he spent good money on bad amphetamine. In real life - you pay for something its not easy to stroll back and reclaim the money. That is why people get 'testers' and if the Speed Dok does not use speed then he needs to just buy a few chemicals and wash the sample. Better still find a buddy who likes amphetamine. If I was buying a kilo of speed (which will never happen) I'd test it on myself. 200mg is enough. If that does not make you want to hoover the entire house and fill you with a clear pleasant energy then its rubbish.
Everything else I bought here has been great.
Amphetamine - In my view I was not sold amphetamine. I got some yellow gloop that dried out to a bright yellow solid chunks. Washed its now almost pearl color.
This wash is some a buddy bought. He got 5 grams and I had to warn him NOT to bring it to a stag night works party. If this is the good yellow batch - I will let people know if its good now its washed.
The one I got was total rubbish. Washing it would not be worth it if 1.5 grams does nothing.
1.5 grams of good amphetamine would keep me up for 48 hrs partying. Or 48 hrs work.
Well - I wanted some compensation but am not going to whinge over 10 BTC when people lost way more with recent happenings here and now this MIN story - possible bust.
I can afford to take my loss. I knew before I ordered that it was a gamble. Thing is every vendor here who sells amphetamine has buyers who are not that impressed. Even the 'pure' amphetamine is priced higher than coke :) I mean come on! FFS! lol.
I guess that shows you how bad things are with amphetamine if people can charge more than coke. No way would I taker speed over coke. Not if it was priced the same! Might as well go for coke, wash it and feel a whole lot better the next day. Speed or amphetamine is priced lower than coke (or was) because speed has a worse come down and several days recovery. People choose speed because its good for certain situations. It used to be the poor mans coke now its like coke is the poor mans speed. ;)
Sorry to sound negative! There are some good vendors here - even the Speed Dok I concede, surely he cannot be No 1 for speed and be selling rubbish. People are not that stupid. Thing is many just give a 5 for the package arriving and with amphetamine many will save it for use later on. Few go back to comment on quality. I think that SR ought to bring in a system whereby buyers get a link sent so they can see the comments they put.
Good luck out there.
I will find another vendor.
PS PLEASE listen to people who say amphetamine has NO smell!! Some here praise speed because they open a vacuum packed batch of ;paste' and the room is filled with a chemical smell.
It should have NO colour. Not pink, yellow or anything.
Cheers! :D
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It used to be the poor mans coke now its like coke is the poor mans speed. ;)
That's a brilliant observation/statement!! You might want to trademark it or use it as your signature. :)
"Drug misuse is not a disease it's a decision:
like the decision to stand in front of a moving car."
Phillip K. Dick
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Too bad the speed/coke thingy is true.. And I don't get it, if a seller here would indeed sell 70%+ purity he would get a massive, returning, client base and sell a shitload of speed.. But instead they sell this cut crap and have no returning customers.. that's stupid and shows lack of salesmanship.
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redalloverthelandguyhere: It's not "regular" ether (diethyl ether) I am using, although that would probably work even better. Technically "petroleum ether" is not an ether, it's just a common name for this particular solvent. It is often found around the cleaning products in supermarkets, and thus much easier to source.
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_ether
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Need to provide a amphetamine labtest..
Iam sitting on 1kg "shit" and need proof that it is "shit" >:(
So I need help now :'(
We know thats its contain:
Dextro(sugar)
Caffine
Kreatin
Magnesium
And probebly something else that we not can detect..
Suggestion?
I can ship within EU if someone nice person
could help me..
Payment isnt any problem ;)
Grettings
Iam about to order some amphetamine here but it seems like
every vendor just dealing crap?
Is this vendor doing buisnes here on Silkroad?
Wich vendor sell what they say here?
//libra1
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To those who are fond of amphetamine but are sick of the quality of street and SR gear:
Try meth. It has very similar effects in sensible doses, though is possibly less stimulating and more of a feel-good effect.
As long as it isn't smoked it really isn't any more fiendish than regular speed (for me at least), it lasts longer, the quality tends to be higher and is somewhat cheaper.
Got a small sample from CrystalWife and I have to say it has everything I miss about good speed! Stings like mad going up the nose but hey, we are used to that aren't we guys!
One thing I will add is that it doesn't seem as useful for getting shit done. More of a party drug.
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Whats the required dose? I see 0.2gram on sale for ~7bitcoins.. So like 0.01 gram dosage or something? Lol, I have no idea.
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The dose is around 10-30mg when insufflated. Orally I think it is slightly higher. 0.2g will be enough for 5-10 doses depending on how wired you like to be! Check Erowid or if you have a good bullshit filter Bluelight.
The doses are much smaller compared to "speed" but only because of the purity. When both drugs are pure, the dose is similar but methamphetamine is maybe 20% lower. I have taken maybe 30mg over 4 lines a couple hours ago and it is really nice. To be honest, I think I might enjoy normal amphetamine slightly more but I feel meth will be much better for partying!
The drug really has a lot of undeserved stigma. I'm sure 0.1g smoked within ten minutes feels great but you are asking for trouble.
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It was not bad at all! Decent speed for the price and with fast shipping. Though I prefer crystal meth, but what can you do? ;)
I got 5g's of Amsterdopes product on the 21st.
Had a line (approx dose 50mg)
Stayed up all night.
Next had to stay awake, dosed 125mg over the course of seven hours.
Was still awake at 2AM, smoke a joint, fell asleep.
Now, i have an OPINION(Because at the moment i can not proved it) and i have contacted Amsterdope regarding this (I'm not just here to bad mouth him)
@shitpissfuckcunt, was your product dry and clumpy?I would reference it (even after snorting) chalk like. A small amount of research made me think a few things.
I will list a few statements and thoughts here, and please remember, these are only thoughts and not a direct attack to Amsterdope.
I am a regular user of Amphetamine, Methamphetamine and MDMA, So i have a pretty respectable tolerance.
Consumed < 200mg over approx 20 hours. Stayed awake the first night, only slept the second night after smoking a half gram of Marijuana, onto third night now and not even restless. I'm incredibly fucking tired and i just cannot sleep.
On average i would consume 250-500mg's of Meth/amphetamine before going out.
Anyone have any experience with Naphyrone? Not guaranteeing that it is but it's different smell, chalky texture and ability to cause insomnia (I stopped buzzing at 11O'clock the first night, i just can't fucking sleep now) has led me to thinks this. A friend tried some and referenced to the synthetic stimulant known as Shamans Dust in Australia.
Just want to know if anyone elses orders were like this?
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Need to provide a amphetamine labtest..
Iam sitting on 1kg "shit" and need proof that it is "shit" >:(
So I need help now :'(
We know thats its contain:
Dextro(sugar)
Caffine
Kreatin
Magnesium
And probebly something else that we not can detect..
Suggestion?
I can ship within EU if someone nice person
could help me..
Payment isnt any problem ;)
Grettings
Iam about to order some amphetamine here but it seems like
every vendor just dealing crap?
Is this vendor doing buisnes here on Silkroad?
Wich vendor sell what they say here?
//libra1
Look into my profile you will see wich vendor I mean.
Sometimes it feels like the vendors guessing and dont
really know what they selling :(
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Now, i have an OPINION(Because at the moment i can not proved it) and i have contacted Amsterdope regarding this (I'm not just here to bad mouth him)
I have also bought this recently, could you let us know about the answer of amsterdope ?
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I just washed 2 grams of UK 'speed' (amphetamine). I decided to wash with water first. After all speed is very soluble and I think its 1 gram of speed in 7.5 ml water. Distilled if you can get make a little from the kettle.
So - whatever the cuts were they were water dissoluble also. Caught maybe 100mg of something in the filter.
I evaporated the filtered water in the oven at the lowest setting. When finished I noticed what looked just like coffee! It was brown. Now it may be sucrose and that got burnt a little. Speed will evaporate to a white powder and will not be destroyed if you maintain a low heat. Even better would be a slow evaporation.
So this brown gloop I have, I will scrape it and acetone wash it and see what happens. Update - just done that and its looks like it would take a liter of acetone to washout the brown coffee color. Perhaps this is just caffeine?
Its possible there is NO speed in this whatsoever or so tiny an amount that it would be a sugar grain.
This really is the pits!
Like my sig says, coke is the poor mans speed. You can spend 10BTC on speed easily - be let down badly, so its easy to think that buying a g of coke makes more sense by far, Plus no three day epic comedown off your coke. Home from the pub - some action with the wife - bed and Zzzzz.
I've been done for on every speed I bought here.
Even last night I looked at some new vendors with supposed 'great' speed but chose Afghan gold seal instead because there is no question about quality there.
Speed is so bad I honestly believe that there is no good speed here whatsoever apart from the prescription meds - and they cost more than coke!!
:)
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I have also bought this recently, could you let us know about the answer of amsterdope ?
I doubt Amsterdope's stuff is Naphyrone. I've used it several times for studying and while it is slightly euphoric it is great for concentration and not anywhere close to what I've heard about naphyrone.
From what I've heard Naphyrone produces a powerful physical high that creates heat flashes and a desire to move around, and if anything decreases attention span, as well as having a hellish hangover/comedown because it releases mostly serotonin rather than dopamine. Amsterdope's stuff keeps me wired to the point i often need a benzo but the next day I feel absolutely fine. Better than normal actually, perhaps due to some residual amphetamine that's still filtering out. Keep in mind this is with total dosages under 100mg.
The only negative effects I've had are dry mouth and an itchy scalp which are both common with adderall.
As far as I'm concerned his stuff is great for the price. I could buy 10x30mg Adderalls for $150 or 1g of speed for $20 which lasts just as long in 100mg increments.
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Redallover; I think you went wrong in washing it with water.. I've never ever seen anyone do that.. You should have stayed with acetone wash first only..
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Redallover; I think you went wrong in washing it with water.. I've never ever seen anyone do that.. You should have stayed with acetone wash first only..
Nope, washing with water works fine. Amphetamine sulphate is very soluble in water so if mixed thoroughly anything that does not dissolve in the water is likely a cut. Good for sorting out non-polar cuts that won't dissolve in water or acetone, or if careful measuring liquid, even cuts like caffeine:
Solubility of amphetamine sulphate in water = 50-100mg/mL at 20°C.
Solubility of caffeine in water = 16-20mg/mL at 20°C.
Just make sure you give the filtrate time to evaporate before washing again with acetone or you could lose product.
Also make sure after washing with water you keep and evaporate the filtrate (read LIQUID) and not the crap left in the filter.
After an acetone wash, however, you want to keep and dry the filTRAND (solids) left in the filter.
A wash with water is one of the easiest ways to purify speed, although evaporation can take a few days (unless done in the oven). It can be done before or after an acetone wash, or even by itself.
If you're not too worried about cuts though the loss of product in the filter itself might not justify purifying it.
example of people filtering with water: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.msg131716#msg131716
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I just washed 2 grams of UK 'speed' (amphetamine). I decided to wash with water first. After all speed is very soluble and I think its 1 gram of speed in 7.5 ml water. Distilled if you can get make a little from the kettle.
So - whatever the cuts were they were water dissoluble also. Caught maybe 100mg of something in the filter.
I evaporated the filtered water in the oven at the lowest setting. When finished I noticed what looked just like coffee! It was brown. Now it may be sucrose and that got burnt a little. Speed will evaporate to a white powder and will not be destroyed if you maintain a low heat. Even better would be a slow evaporation.
So this brown gloop I have, I will scrape it and acetone wash it and see what happens. Update - just done that and its looks like it would take a liter of acetone to washout the brown coffee color. Perhaps this is just caffeine?
Its possible there is NO speed in this whatsoever or so tiny an amount that it would be a sugar grain.
This really is the pits!
Like my sig says, coke is the poor mans speed. You can spend 10BTC on speed easily - be let down badly, so its easy to think that buying a g of coke makes more sense by far, Plus no three day epic comedown off your coke. Home from the pub - some action with the wife - bed and Zzzzz.
I've been done for on every speed I bought here.
Even last night I looked at some new vendors with supposed 'great' speed but chose Afghan gold seal instead because there is no question about quality there.
Speed is so bad I honestly believe that there is no good speed here whatsoever apart from the prescription meds - and they cost more than coke!!
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Nah mate, this is amphetamine for sure. I stayed awake three days before crashing. Was very focused and I also had to eat valium in order to avoid the ticks. ;)
So yeah, this is great quality speed for the price, you would not be able to get very much better speed of the street. Of course there is speed on the market which is a lot better than this, but all in all Amsterdope's speed definitely does the trick.
Though as I said in my previous post, I do prefer crystal meth. It's a shame there seems to be so damn hard to find on the European market though! :(
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Nah mate, this is amphetamine for sure. I stayed awake three days before crashing. Was very focused and I also had to eat valium in order to avoid the ticks. ;)
So yeah, this is great quality speed for the price, you would not be able to get very much better speed of the street. Of course there is speed on the market which is a lot better than this, but all in all Amsterdope's speed definitely does the trick.
Though as I said in my previous post, I do prefer crystal meth. It's a shame there seems to be so damn hard to find on the European market though! :(
You're right mate, guess i went into overdrive a little bit when my mate said it wasn't. Came up as Amp on a Marquis test too.
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Today my order from BoyMaster arrived, the packaging was sublime. Very stealthy, at first it had me puzzled and I thought that it was a joke send to me :P
Ordered 1 gram but he said he'd put in more cause I was his first customer for good feedback etc etc.. Well it came in at 1.9gram which I think is fucking awesome, really appreciated that. It looks exactly like on the picture, not pure white but a little bit beige and it doesn't smell very strong (which can be both a good thing, or a bad thing).
I will test it out this weekend and give feedback here of course :)
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Hey guys anyone received sample from german express yet ?
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I might get a sample tomorrow or on saturday. But I'm also wondering that there are still no feedbacks relating to GEs speed here or in his own thread- actually a few should have received a sample; maybe everyone is waiting for the weekend :).
I'm not sure if I can test it this weekend (unless it arrives the next 2 days) but I'll do my best to give a report asap! It's not only because of the agreement with GE but also about the "actual speed difficulties".
Many people here seem to be very confused and doubtful where to buy good speed these days- speed that contains what it promise. I'll be back 8)
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I read in GermanExpress topic that he has had some issues and been very busy, but that he send over 250gram in the last week so I think it'll arrive shortly. Even PM'ed him about it, but read the topic after that so I guess that's the problem.
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But I'm also wondering that there are still no feedbacks relating to GEs speed here or in his own thread- actually a few should have received a sample; maybe everyone is waiting for the weekend :).
Hi,
bought some from the first batch he offered 25 Days ago - quality was only mediocre, short acting and had an extreme chemical "toilet cleaner" smell/drip - i was only a few steps away from vomitting because of that :( Never had anything with a taste like that before...
@Knomo: Fingers crossed for the Boy Masters stuff - ordered from him too in search of some good speed...
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Hi,
bought some from the first batch he offered 25 Days ago - quality was only mediocre, short acting and had an extreme chemical "toilet cleaner" smell/drip - i was only a few steps away from vomitting because of that :( Never had anything with a taste like that before...
Wow I had that disgusting taste a few months ago too, not bought on the road but from a jackass kiddo vendor, it indeed tasted like nothing I've ever had before. And the quality was shit, took some the day after I used it and I had to gag, for real.. shit was so nastyyyy :-X
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Stuff from premium dutch same fuckin vile taste with not much affect .Ithink it was an rc .
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.Ithink it was an rc .
Never had an RC which tasted like that and i tried a lot of that kinda stuff - i suppose the taste is from bad synthesis or from some solvent chemicals left behind from the process..but thats just a guess..
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Done an extended wash on Der Speed Doktors yellow batch. the 5 grams is now two gram and its a beige colour now not yellow.
No idea of the purity as I am not testing until the weekend.
Will do a further wash in water also - take 15 ml or so and dissolve speed in that then filter. Not sure what temp water is best.
So the speed at most could be 40% I suspect I'll tease a few more mg of cuts if I dissolve the speed/cuts in water. Possible cuts may dissolve but we will see.
Also may do another acetone wash and could end up with a gram. That would mean 20% purity and snorting 80/% rubbish up the nose.
Real good speed you can set up two 25mg lines and be flying for 8-12 hrs.
But the speed I got from the doc was rubbish at 1.5 grams ingested - hope this is a different batch and we may have something decent.
5 grams down to 1.
Makes you laugh really. At least I avoided snorting that rubbish.
Any more suggestions for good speed vendors?
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Will do a further wash in water also - take 15 ml or so and dissolve speed in that then filter.
Is it bad idea to use coffee or tea filters for this process ? How do you get yours - from the web ?
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Promoting a clean,potent,stimulant: 4-MEC!!!
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I feel for all you dudes waiting to get some quality amphetamine product that will never arrive... it reminds me of the famous existentialist play by Samuel Beckett 'Waiting for Godot' in which Godot (aka God) never shows. These vendors got to get a clear message that you are fed up of getting bogus falsely advertised product... the way you do that is by withholding any purchases for the time being.
I have already suggested on a number of occasions of trying Meth:a small 10mg line will keep you zooming all day.My personal fave right now is the Canadian vendor MarijuanaIsMyMuse. You can buy .5 gram for about 16 BTC's. Snorting is a lot less harmful than smoking it (which erodes teeth real quick). This stuff is pure rocket fuel...no shit... but it takes a toll on the mind and body.
My most recent discovery is 4-MEC (4-Methylecathinone) which is an awesome much cleaner stim than Meth. This is the chemical that occurs in the organic East African shrub called Khat which is a popular narcotic in Somalia,Kenya, and Yemen. It is so popular amongst the men folk of Yemen that they take off the afternoons
(and stop working) so they can sit around on carpets and pillows and chew Khat. Of course this has had a detrimental effect on the economy so the government is attempting to discourage Khat use thru advertisements (at the behest of the U.S. who want's to shut down this billion dollar industry which funds Muslim extremists in the region). I have had the good fortune to actually buy bundles of Khat in the open air markets of East London (Whitechapel station). This synthetic product produces the very same effects that made me a fan of chewing Khat.
This stim promotes conversation and having snorted just a few small lines this morning instead of snorting my usual Meth I can tell you that my mind is as sharp as a razor blade and I have the confidence to go up to any woman and chat her up.It is a real confidence booster whereas confidence under the influence of Meth is translated into more aggressive behaviors such as posturing, inappropriate crossing of personal boundaries and you are aware that you are totally tweaking in public... and people do def take notice b/c you appear edgy, nervous which sends out "bad vibes". A half gram of 4-MEC goes for about 5 BTC's. The vendor I recommend for this is davidd who is an excellent business person and doesn't fuck around. He is currently in 'stealth' mode but you should be able to locate him via name or substance. 4-MEC is what I was expecting from the European paste: I love this shit. When I finally choose to quit Meth I will readily replace it with this cheaper, cleaner, stim.
I suggest anyone interested to check Erowid for more details about this 4-MEC. This is an AWESOME STIMULANT!! :)
"Drug misuse is not a disease it's a decision:
like the decision to stand in front of a moving car."
Phillip K. Dick
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+1 for that post, really informative. Thanks for that.
I will look into this substance and maybe give it a try. Perhaps it's best to quit searching for good speed at all on the Road, still have 'offline' contacts who can provide me with good shit. I'm waiting on & then testing GermanExpress's stuff and if that is crap too, I quit the search for proper speed online.
Just can't find the 4-MEC on SR, is it the same stuff as Ethylphenidate? Searching for 4-MEC gives me 1000 non related results.. ::)
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The way things are going its tempting to make some meth!
I've watched hillbilly women (no offense to white folk of a Southern American heritage) making up a batch of meth on some YouTube documentary - some 'shock horror' series on drugs in which the presenter gets a hard on when he goes to raid what turns out to be someone asleep in a bed, 2 grams of meth in a bag, plenty of 'evidence' of materials that may be connected with the production or or use of meth amphetamine.
The hillbilly women uses unhygienic methods and shows no concern for her safety. The whole process is filmed - someone handing her the ephedrine tabs (I presume not pure - but ones used for medical purposes) and she has drain cleaner, lighter fluid, lithium out of an aa battery. The container used us some old 2L cooking oil container. Its a fast method and whilst the process was done in stages this cuts it down to one container - one method. The method IS dangerous - and I'd not do this unless I was outside - plus with a face guard, gloves and protective clothing. I'd use glassware also with a pressure release.
Having seen butane extraction of hash go wrong and form a fireball 10 foot in circumference, I'm not impressed by people who take safety shortcuts when messing about with drugs!
You could also get pure versions of some of the actual ingredients for this meth. It is interesting as a chemical experiment and I guess if you succeeded then you could become a vendor!
I'd use once but got a feeling good meth amphetamine would seem like the BEST speed we used to get in the UK. The kind that made you tingle 20 mins after taking with your drink. You could drink all night and still walk a straight line.
Anyone here ever actually though about making their own meth now that the speed situation is so bad it just makes you want to have that special day/night on a (hopefully)productive high that allows you to go out in the night to the pub and maybe back to some house to drink and laugh as someone offers you a line of UK coke.
Anyhow its just a thought. Pretty bad thought really. Making your own meth because you tire of paying good BTC for bad speed or worse, rubbish speed that is no good for anyone.
Ephidine is cheap enough I guess.
But I got a bad feeling about meth. If I did get it right I'd always have the temptation to just take a 'tiny' little dabble. Not sure of potency but I'd imagine 10mg might get you going.
I would NEVER snort it though. Too corrosive. I'd cap it and use some filler that may help the comedown or come up. Grind a multivit up - add ginseng and other stuff. Maybe only use after a meak so your stomach is not hit badly. Maybe dissolving the meth dose in some fruit juice would be good for us. I'm sure using sterile equipment and doing this outdoors it would be maybe easier than cleaning that '70%' speed and getting 200mg from a gram. Even then we are chemistry laypeople we do not have a lab. Lab equpment on ebay is cheap enough. I fancied a still so i could make my own moonshine. Not sure if its legal but I'd sooner drink my moonshine than the stuff in Ireland called 'poteen' which is maybe 150 proof or something. Made from potato I think. It was the strongest drug I ever had. A K hole makes some sense - the A hole or alcohol is just a blur of movement and I did not know were I was or really who I was. Took days to recover. Actually never felt so bad ever.
Not even when I took a gram of the infamous first 1980s 'pink champagne' speed which was white speed died pink so as to stand out above the competition. I unwisely put a half gram in my beer. I'd eaten so decided it would take a while so ate the other half although I was told one was WAY enough! Took me days to just sleep again. But for a while I contemplated driving to the hospital and saying that I had been 'spiked' with speed by some guy I'd never seen before. Never felt a speed as powerful. 100mg had my mate up all night so he just went to work and said he had never done so much work!
Enough bullshit of the past. Old guys going on about 'back in the day' its boring I know.
Anyhow - so far the 2 gram of English speed turned out to be a joke. I admit I did use an oven to evaporate and whatever the cut was it burnt. I am throwing it out - down the drain it will go. That is 7 grams of speed I have put down the sink!
hope the ones I have cleaned are decent!
If not I will message the vendor but I think he is not happy with me as so far I got laughable coke I washed and speed which is so messed up that I do not think I can clean it. Out of 2 grams of speed I doubt there is actually any. I saw NO white powder when I evaporated. All brown! OK this speed did cost 1 BTC for two grams (lol) but whilst I knew it would be shit I thought that I could grab maybe 200mg of actual speed from there. I got te brown powder which I will take a photo of and meta scrub also after its wiped from camera.
Anyhow I doubt any vendor will want me as a customer! I am getting ether also and other chemicals so will be able to really see what the purity of the stuff is.
When I learn how to upload images here or anywhere anon - then I got a few now to show you on washing speed. The cuts and what we have left.
The yellow speed which was 5 grams likely a gram - and a beige color now with barely ANY smell.
The UK speed I have was 1.3 grams and is now maybe 0.6 or so. That was off Afghan Apothecary. Advertised as quality speed. Think I paid maybe 2.5 BTC in the sale. Got extra as I bought a few things off the original vendor who has passed on the business to someone he trusts. If the speed is shit I will say so.
Other vendors, I don't want free samples because we know what happens there! I get some uncut speed - praise it and the vendor uses me to make some BTC.
I don't want free gifts. ( well I do but...) I pay for my drugs here. I'd like a speed vendor to vouch to me that they will send me a really GOOD speed. Not to this user name - I could be anyone and want vendors who do deal the same product to all. Any offers i will buy a gram and wash it extensively. I will do a full report on the results of the wash (weight left) and the all important little line test. Hate snorting but a 25mg line up each nose ought to make you feel pretty motivated. Hopefully this washes speed will not irritate the nose as 90% of the crap is now removed! What remains, I hope it is amphetamine but only the snort test will find out. After that a 100mg serving wrapped in a cigarette paper ought to launch me for a night of festivity.
The only way to get good speed is for us to wash it and whilst I am not trained in chemistry its a hobby of mine!
Thanks for reading.
The search continues for the BEST speed/amphetamine on SR.
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I don't want free gifts. ( well I do but...) I pay for my drugs here. I'd like a speed vendor to vouch to me that they will send me a really GOOD speed. Not to this user name - I could be anyone and want vendors who do deal the same product to all.
Quoted for truth! I've spoken my disbelief about the horrible quality before and I still do not understand why they do it, to make some quick bucks? Like the profit margin on amphetamine is that high ::)
The search continues for the BEST speed/amphetamine on SR.
Some day, it will come.. I am certain 8)
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so could you use these cleaning methods to get the dextro out of adhd meds?
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not sure if its worth extracting from Dextro - they have no apap in there or any active fillers just the amphetamines.
I've been thinking of buying some Dexamphetamine which has 4 different amphetamines in the brand Adderall.
Here is a guide if you want to go ahead...
http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?30303-Adderall-Extraction-and-Purification
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I wrote about washing two grams of UK street speed - I dissolved in water first - but the cuts turned brown like coffee!
Since then I have washed with some iso alcohol and taken the brown colour away. Its off white now and looks like less than 100mg or so left from 2 grams of 'speed'
This makes the speed so weak that snorting it would have damaged your sinuses.
I will continue until I am left with some white crystalline powder. I will dry this off after the iso wash - then go for acetone.
If 2 grams contains 100mg of speed then its 5% purity.
Glad I paid 1 BTC for it and not something silly!
Results soon.
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Has anyone heard or received from the speed dok lately? I placed an order over the weekend, it's still in processing and he hasn't been seen for 7 days... not sure what's up
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Hi, how do you get rid of the acetone from the left over powder in the coffee filter after it's been strained? Wouldn't it be bad to snort the powder with acetone still in it?
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+1 for that post, really informative. Thanks for that.
Just can't find the 4-MEC on SR, is it the same stuff as Ethylphenidate? Searching for 4-MEC gives me 1000 non related results.. ::)
For some reason it is in the Ecstasy postings. There are 11 listings for 4-MEC. Davidd and 34tuforlunch (from Canada) are the primary vendors. Start with a .5 gram order first to see if you agree.
4-MEC is the closest thing to amphetamine I've tried (besides Meth). I am seriously impressed with this stuff. Stop snorting pancake batter folks and give this substance a try. It is a very clean and impressive stimulant and it is CHEAP.
p.s. ha ha read the comment on your avatar. It's good to see that peeps still engage in 'politically incorrect' offensive humor from time to time. +1 karma for having the balls to do that. :)
"Hide your wife, hide your kids,
and hide your husband too because
they raping everybody out here."
Antoine Dodson, Huntsville,AL.
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The way things are going its tempting to make some meth!
/quote] I am def tempted. I'd just do it outdoors with protective gear. You can buy pseudoephidrine in my country (Sudafed) but I guess just getting ephidrine from SR would save you the step of breaking down the pills (probably cheaper too).
I would just make damn sure that I wasn't high. I tend to do crazy shit when I am tweaking. ha ha. :)
"Drug misuse is not a disease it's a decision.
Like the decision to step in front of a moving car."
Phillip K. Dick
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I got some speed from PremiumDutch that arrived in 4 days to Australia (as fast as any international order will arrive). I am yet to try it. I am new to speed. I haven't kept up with the thread, has anyone tried his stuff and would 50mg or 100mg of his stuff be good for a first timer? Also it's paste so should I eat it or let it dry then snort it?
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Best leave 'base' speed to dry out. Get an a4 piece of paper and spread the speed base with a spoon till it covers most of the A4.
That way the solvents still in there will evaporate and the water also.
you will lose some weight but can help dry it faster by putting on top of a radiator or if its hot outside - get a black bag - put a small box with the A4 paper and speed inside. The hear of the sun will dry it for free.
50mgs sounds right. Two 20mg lines. Once you know the strength, you are best to wrap an amount in cigarette paper and swallow. Snorting is bad for your health.
As for washing with acetone - if you leave the washed material in a warm dry place for 24 hr the acetone will be gone. You need to really powder up the drug your washing after its washes. I use a spoon (back of a spoon) to actually crush up the crystals and boulders which will make all the acetone evaporate faster.
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4-MEC is the closest thing to amphetamine I've tried (besides Meth). I am seriously impressed with this stuff. Stop snorting pancake batter folks and give this substance a try. It is a very clean and impressive stimulant and it is CHEAP.
What else have you tried :)? Not questioning your opinion, I just find it curious that anyone would think 4-MEC and amphetamine give a similar high. By the way, 4-MEC is a synthetic cathinone derivative, so it's related to the active ingredient in khat but as far as I know it it does not occur in nature.
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Thanks for the help. Why does it have to be paper though?
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Hey there,
i'm sorry but i really have to go the way of the noob and start asking those questions, so kick me, punch me - you even can call me ingeborg if you want but... :
If if have amphetamine paste - there are 2 different kinds, right? Some shit which is soaked with base and sulfate which hasn't gone through the last steps of producing. Are those assumptions right in the first place? If i have the unfinished sulfate, there shouldn't be a problem, putting it on paper or tissue and letting the solvents evaporate. But if have the "base kind" wouldn't the base itself evaporate and leave only the "carrier"? And how much active component would be lost by heat/oxidation (again it would be necessary to distinguish between "base on a carrier" and "solvent soaked sulfate", right?). Maybe some of you could explain it noob style to me. I have a degree but not in this area of expertise ;)
Thanks a lot up front!
Cheers CT
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Amphetamine base is an oil at room temperature and to get something out of it you really have to smoke it. Its like DMT free base, it cant be snorted, it must be smoked. The stuff they sell as base speed is not base. It's a scam to make people believe its the shit. White powder that is wet(paste) and dries is just shit with a little bit of amph/meth with a solvent like acetone/water/heptane/carosene. Amph freebase do not evaporate in an hour in room temperature. You can buy amph freebase as an oil but you still need to treat it with an acid to get the salt that is snortable. And to my knowledge you get more product(more powder speed) when you add an acid and that would result in more profit. There would be no point to sell the "base oil" drenched powder when the oil is worth more as a powder. And if you can make the oil you sure as hell can get a hold of proper acids to make the powder. Can we please get a proper god damn cook to sell some semipure god damn speed around here? SR is seriously loosing good customers due to vendors selling shit. And now im not just talking speed, ive been buying alot of stuff thats not what I thought i was buying. This is a real hazzard to the buyers. Overdosing is a real threat when you think its something else.
About you "carrier": The oil just evaporates, it does not leave anything behind. But as I said, it wont simply evaporate at the rate that "speed base paste" does.
Edit: Never apologize for asking a question! If you are responded with anger/pity they are idiots you didn't want to get an answer from in the first place.
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Dry your stuff on a mirror dude, looks cooler 8)
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Got 1 gram of speed from DopeyDwarf, actual weight was 0.87, did 0.15 and felt nothing. Acetone washed the remains, got 0.22 back of "working" stuff.
Transaction with DD was the worst ever, won't go into details but will not buy again from him even if he was the last vendor standing.
I did no FE, I'm sure he would have fucked me if I had.
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hey tampy how did you take that .15?
Also does anyone smoke speed? My friend told me to
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I Tested the speed from BoyMaster, who gave me 1 gram for free to my 1gram order to try it out.
Which was very nice of him to do :)
In total I've had a go of almost 70 hours, with around 4 hours of sleep. At first I thought the stuff was weak as shit, didn't feel a thing so I took more, and more.. on the first evening I ended up taking around 200mg (125 snorted, 75 ingested) obviously I couldn't sleep Thursday night. Came through Friday with just 1 small line (like max 25mg, snorted) felt pretty good, went to a bar drank a lot of beer and when I came home at 3AM I felt pretty damn sober, almost like I couldn't sleep again. Luckily I did, but unfortunately my alarm went off at 6.45AM ;D
Worked all day Saturday without redosing and in the evening I snorted max 100mg, went on this crazy beer binge and as usual with good speed, I hardly got drunk at all. In fact, it's now 5.45AM on Sunday and I don't feel like I've been awake for this long, and had so many beers.. Being able to write this report says it all I think..
Heading to bed now, but have a feeling I can't sleep again. (sun is already set.. meh, hate that :-X)
tl;dr BoyMaster's stuff is legit, only thing 'wrong' with it is that there's not so much euphoria as I'm used to. But it just might be mine sleep deprivation causing that :P
Goodnight, or.. morning 8)
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Now thats kind of feedback been waitin on ,boymaster gona be new top man for the fast stuff ?Fingers crossed am gona sort some bcoin out ya hoo .
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@Zimco : Thx a lot, i really appreciate that :) Although i a little more confused than before ;) Let me repeat what i understood.
There's sulfat (salt, powder, hardly to get here on SR and relatively stable concerning oxidation and light) and "just shit with a little bit of amph/meth with a solvent like acetone/water/heptane/carosene" aka Paste which has basically volatile components - inactive and active.
If this has a massive loss of active component in the process of drying (and you are talking of within an hour) how can i wash the stuff with acetone and ( and here's to you Knomo :p) dry it on a mirror like boss after washing it? I don't think that all the acetone is gone in an hour and following your post, there shouldn't be much amphetamine left - or did i loose you an any point?
This is what you get, when you encourage me to ask ;D
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Now thats kind of feedback been waitin on ,boymaster gona be new top man for the fast stuff ?Fingers crossed am gona sort some bcoin out ya hoo .
He sells 1gram for 2.5btc, and maybe if you talk to him you get some free stuff too :P
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Thanks Zimco, great explanation. I'm also tired of hearing the old "base" myth repeated over and over again.
@Zimco : Thx a lot, i really appreciate that :) Although i a little more confused than before ;) Let me repeat what i understood.
There's sulfat (salt, powder, hardly to get here on SR and relatively stable concerning oxidation and light) and "just shit with a little bit of amph/meth with a solvent like acetone/water/heptane/carosene" aka Paste which has basically volatile components - inactive and active.
If this has a massive loss of active component in the process of drying (and you are talking of within an hour) how can i wash the stuff with acetone and ( and here's to you Knomo :p) dry it on a mirror like boss after washing it? I don't think that all the acetone is gone in an hour and following your post, there shouldn't be much amphetamine left - or did i loose you an any point?
This is what you get, when you encourage me to ask ;D
You can mix pure amphetamine sulphate with nothing but a solvent, giving you a very potent "paste". You can also mix pure amphetamine sulphate with shitloads of powdered cutters, giving you a very low potency powdery end product. Or combination of the above; amphetamine sulphate + solvent + cut, etc.
My point is, it doesn't matter if the drug is delivered in paste or dry form. Both can be good, and both can be shite.
You will not lose any active component in the process of drying. There are no volatile active components in street amphetamine paste! And by the way, unless you are Doing It Wrong the acetone should evaporate in much less than an hour :).
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@all you guys giving me those great explanations. Thank you so much! IF i will ever get something remotely related to "speed" as i used to know it before everything went south concerning quality 'n shit, i will be much more confident handling this stuff. One never stops learning :) I would love to have something in my hands to play a little around ^^
Cheers,
CT
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hey tampy how did you take that .15?
Also does anyone smoke speed? My friend told me to
Snorted it, in about one hour.
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Wow, many pages. Can anyone recommend a vendor selling speed with a very good cost-performance ratio? That would be awesome. Thank you.
Can't decide between http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/259282f4fa and http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/2f3a06aec6.
What do you think?
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There is a very simple answer : None. At least till i have my sample from GermanExpress to tell about it (and i hope it kicks ass). I think almost every speed here is dirt at the moment. :(
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In the past few months i have tried almost every speed seller on SR till now only one of them really delivered a true product, most of them just kept me awake and that was it!
Even had one i could sleep on(dopeydwarf) ???
Everytime paying for a too wet product, ordering 5gr and after drying ending up with 2-3gr... :S :S
If you are about to order don't waste time on the dutch sellers(overpriced caffeine) and the german ones with the fake 80% bullshit with coke prices...c'mon?!
Go for the one > Boymaster < is offering, damn 2 small lines got me right into that good feeling, bursting with controllable energy and euphoric all day!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d186a7affd
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I've currently been going strong on BoyMaster's speed since last Thursday. Hardly had any sleep at all and it is already Monday.. (please note that I have not taken over 500mg, stuff is really potent)
The sample from Discountsdrugs looks tempting, think I'm going to try it out as well..
But for now I can recommend BoyMaster :)
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Have placed an order with BoyMaster. Will let everyone know how it goes.
This forum is brilliant.... A nice community of tweakers to ensure nobody gets disappointed.
Thanks to the martyrs who have suffered for our benefit! :D
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I've also placed an order for a single with BoyMaster.
So far the communication has been great, and he's told me it's shipping this afternoon.
Will update when it arrives.
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i got premiumdutch's paste. gonna smoke about 50mg. do i need to let it dry first?
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i got premiumdutch's paste. gonna smoke about 50mg. do i need to let it dry first?
You smoke Speed Paste ?? Never heard that, i just snort it ......
How you smoke it ? On foil, chasing the dragon ??
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i got premiumdutch's paste. gonna smoke about 50mg. do i need to let it dry first?
You smoke Speed Paste ?? Never heard that, i just snort it ......
How you smoke it ? On foil, chasing the dragon ??
i think you need to let it dry first
ive actually never smoked it before, not even sure if you can, im just wondering if you can
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Hey guys a reckon looks like could be couple decent vendors for fast stuff at last . :) ;)BRING IT FUCKIN ON .
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i got premiumdutch's paste. gonna smoke about 50mg. do i need to let it dry first?
You cannot smoke European Speed Paste. Meth can be smoked, amphetamine not. This idea was discussed several times in the last few pages :) Snort it, i.v it (please don't... i really don't want to know what you would hunt down your veins) or take it orally. I don't think that there is any point in smoking it.
Cheers
CT
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Boymaster swears by his quality an seems to know his stuff.
He seems an ok guy - its 2.5 for an order - post is not much.
Worth a bash I guess so in my basket it goes!
Maybe things will pick up around here. We had too many people crying sob stories and dismal tales.
I hope to do a good review on boymasters speed and will not wash it as apparently hexane is best. I need to learn more on chemistry so bear with me!
Teach me if I get things wrong.
Lets hope this new vendor does have some class act amphetamine!
:)
Any other regulars here tried it as of yet?
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Boymaster swears by his quality an seems to know his stuff.
He seems an ok guy - its 2.5 for an order - post is not much.
Worth a bash I guess so in my basket it goes!
Maybe things will pick up around here. We had too many people crying sob stories and dismal tales.
I hope to do a good review on boymasters speed and will not wash it as apparently hexane is best. I need to learn more on chemistry so bear with me!
Teach me if I get things wrong.
Lets hope this new vendor does have some class act amphetamine!
:)
Any other regulars here tried it as of yet?
Yes I've tried BoyMaster's stuff and I have to say I'm quite surprised by it's quality.
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well shiiiiiit, finally a promising seller and they only ship inside the EU.
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I will order boymaster tomorrow and sounds like it may restore the SR crdibility when it comes to quality of drugs.
Also - see a listing "1 gram good quality speed, just what the docter ordered!" the price for this gram is 27.89 BTC.
lol.
Got to be meth right?
So I hope to use boymasters speed next week - I like to wake up early - have no work, and eat a BIG breakfast then snort a couple of limes before 12 noon.
I am kind of optimistic over this one.
As for the 27 . 89 BTC 'speed' uoi could grab a gram of good coke, a bit of hash and some Valium to ease the sleep.
I still got two speeds to test - the speed doks yellow - the 20% left from 5 grams.
Also Afghan Apothecary speed. Looks the part. Nice and white. Well cleaned. No smell and a bitter taste. I imagine snorting this washed speed will be WAY better than snorting it right out of the bag.
But this boy master stiuff - I will not wash and will accept a little sting if it has me hoovering thr entire house whilst gardening and cleaning the gutters and painting the new shed!!
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I need some help with drying my paste. So I got it about a week ago and haven't touched it yet because I'm not using it for a few days. So I went to look today and it's just flakes, but a little bit moist. So I've take it out of the bag to dry fully overnight but I'm pretty sure it's almost done. So how do I crush the flakes up to snort? Should I use a grinder?
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Just cut it as fine as possible with a razor blade or something. Let it dry, cut it more, repeat until you have a fine powdery substance.
To those who tried BoyMaster's stuff, what is your recommended starting dose? Don't want to over (or under :D) do it.....
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50mg's or so, but be careful lol. Just when you think wtf is this shit, it doesn't work.. you can't sleep for the next 24 hours ;D
Just prepared myself a nice fat 80mg line.. will probably take it in 3-4 lines.. /cheers
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I finally received a sample of germanexpress speed and gotta say it's by far the best speed I've had in years .. doubt I will be getting much sleep tonight (:
Only downside is that it is pretty wet and does lose quite a bit of weight when drying but still no complaints very well worth the price. Also took quite a long time till I received it but well it was a free sample so I don't wanna complain and apparently he had a few problems in the past week so that's alright with me .. will be ordering 10g of him and that will last me quite some time I guess.
Will post another review in his thread as requested but gotta go now and do some things .. too much energy right now ;)
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I finally received a sample of germanexpress speed and gotta say it's by far the best speed I've had in years .. doubt I will be getting much sleep tonight (:
Only downside is that it is pretty wet and does lose quite a bit of weight when drying but still no complaints very well worth the price. Also took quite a long time till I received it but well it was a free sample so I don't wanna complain and apparently he had a few problems in the past week so that's alright with me .. will be ordering 10g of him and that will last me quite some time I guess.
Will post another review in his thread as requested but gotta go now and do some things .. too much energy right now ;)
Wow that's great to hear :D Still waiting for my sample too, you've got me all excited now ;D
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I finally received a sample of germanexpress speed and gotta say it's by far the best speed I've had in years .. doubt I will be getting much sleep tonight (:
Only downside is that it is pretty wet and does lose quite a bit of weight when drying but still no complaints very well worth the price. Also took quite a long time till I received it but well it was a free sample so I don't wanna complain and apparently he had a few problems in the past week so that's alright with me .. will be ordering 10g of him and that will last me quite some time I guess.
Will post another review in his thread as requested but gotta go now and do some things .. too much energy right now ;)
Wow that's great to hear :D Still waiting for my sample too, you've got me all excited now ;D
YAY, sounds like fun. I hope my stuff arrives as quick as possible. Can't wait to test it!!
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I finally received a sample of germanexpress speed and gotta say it's by far the best speed I've had in years .. doubt I will be getting much sleep tonight (:
Only downside is that it is pretty wet and does lose quite a bit of weight when drying but still no complaints very well worth the price. Also took quite a long time till I received it but well it was a free sample so I don't wanna complain and apparently he had a few problems in the past week so that's alright with me .. will be ordering 10g of him and that will last me quite some time I guess.
Will post another review in his thread as requested but gotta go now and do some things .. too much energy right now ;)
Wow that's great to hear :D Still waiting for my sample too, you've got me all excited now ;D
YAY, sounds like fun. I hope my stuff arrives as quick as possible. Can't wait to test it!!
stop it knomo your makin me fuckin jealous ,still waitin on mine from boy master and ger express .
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There's nothing I like more than being told to "be careful" with my speed :D Thanks for the info
We seem to have two vendors selling the real deal at the moment - hopefully they can stick around!
50-100mg of speed as a good dose suggests that it is really quite pure - makes you wonder why the "medical grade" stuff was going for so much when speed really CAN be both cheap and strong.
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There's nothing I like more than being told to "be careful" with my speed :D Thanks for the info
We seem to have two vendors selling the real deal at the moment - hopefully they can stick around!
50-100mg of speed as a good dose suggests that it is really quite pure - makes you wonder why the "medical grade" stuff was going for so much when speed really CAN be both cheap and strong.
Been almost 8hours now since I started with the 80mg dose, still feeling 'high' but not hugely euphoric. That's the one thing I miss with this speed :P
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I took abou 25 as a test run. I feel very talkative, which is what I want out of this. Will probably go for 50 for a longer lasting effect
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I hate you all ;D i so much would like to try it too. But i'm glad that you held the "watch out"-sign high in the air. I would have probably (my last "normal" amount from the last really good batch of the doctors speed was about 200mg per "dose".. high tolerance isn't a party) taken 100mg to test it. Will start with about 70 think :)
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Boy master is the man 5 out of five from me top quality and brilliant packing ,keep uo the good work BOY MASTER .
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Boy master is the man 5 out of five from me top quality and brilliant packing ,keep uo the good work BOY MASTER .
Haha so you've got the package :D Now waiting for GermanExpress, his sounds promising as well
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Yeh mate packing fuckin best ive seen even threw me ,re ordered already ,catch ye again dude .
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hey~
idk how relevant this is--
more of an adderall gal, myself, which is speed AND amphetamine, but doesn't seem to be what you guys are talking about...
anyway, point is- re: vendors- I've been doing business with the vendor fitnessandherb, and it's been a great customer experience. Reasonable prices, always a little extra, and good communication. Shipping time's been pretty fast, too.
I hope this helps anyone!
if not, feel free to disregard =)
~jv
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Speed = Amphetamine ;)
Well, at least that's what it should be.. :P
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My luck!
I was planning to have a bit of a speed festival this weekend but forgot I have to visit the mother in law who is anti drugs!
I have to sneak out into the garden when the Mom in law falls alseep and always bring a batch of cannabis oil or dry sieved UK hash from the home grown. Makes ALL imported hash seem average.
But no way can I take good speed and hide it! I'd be buying a crate of lager and skinning up so fast that I's seem like a machine.
I guess it will be next Tuesday before I get to test my speed off boymaster.
Was 'in transit' very soon after ordering.
If its any good I know a crew of workers who would take speed over coke ANY day as working on coke always ends up with nothing much done. With speed you can do a weeks work in two days. I get come academic stuff to do also and speed can help you get into some epic 48 hr study session. I'd do that a week before the exam so your fresh as a daisy. But good speed ought not to knock you off balance for too long. Bad speed can really make you pay a price. One good night for three or four awful days.
Hope the come down on the boymasters is ok.
but to be fair - no speed I have taken leaves you jumping up the next day singing and dancing. Unless you redosed after breakfast ;D
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Anyone had any luck ordering anything decent to Australia?
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ok speedheads, you convinced me and I placed an order with BoyMaster. I really liked AspicantCooper's amphetamine, if BoyMaster's is as good for 5x smaller price - I'll be very impressed.
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Hey guys.
Ordered 5 wet grams of aakoven speed. I bombed 350mg wet and its a good buzz. However when dried im not sure if it will be as worth it price wise.
Can anyone recommend other speed sellers? Ive read a few posts and got some suggestions but I like a little discussion :)
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Hey guys.
Ordered 5 wet grams of aakoven speed. I bombed 350mg wet and its a good buzz. However when dried im not sure if it will be as worth it price wise.
Can anyone recommend other speed sellers? Ive read a few posts and got some suggestions but I like a little discussion :)
Well if 350mg wouldn't give you a nice buzz you're better off flushing it down the drain :P It's quite a large amount.
As for sellers I'm putting my money on BoyMaster and GermanExpress
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Got my Stuff from GermanExpress today. What can i say. IT´S THE FUCKING BOMB. Had about 25 different speed purchases in the last 8 months, but the quality of this stands far above everything else that ever has been delivered from SR. Package was a little underweight, but GermanExpress answered immediately, and took care of everything. Highly professional and very nice contact. It´s just like the premium stuff of what was sold about 6-7 years ago in Europe. 50-100 mg oral and you just wanna work, clean, talk... the whole day.
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Got my Stuff from GermanExpress today. What can i say. IT´S THE FUCKING BOMB. Had about 25 different speed purchases in the last 8 months, but the quality of this stands far above everything else that ever has been delivered from SR. Package was a little underweight, but GermanExpress answered immediately, and took care of everything. Highly professional and very nice contact. It´s just like the premium stuff of what was sold about 6-7 years ago in Europe. 50-100 mg oral and you just wanna work, clean, talk... the whole day.
Damn, I want my sample.. Now! Hehehe ;D
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Well if 350mg wouldn't give you a nice buzz you're better off flushing it down the drain :P It's quite a large amount.
As for sellers I'm putting my money on BoyMaster and GermanExpress
I did take it in two bombs an hour a apart though...But yea this paste was WET. Dry its bout 3 grams...I need to try a few other vendors methinks.
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Well if 350mg wouldn't give you a nice buzz you're better off flushing it down the drain :P It's quite a large amount.
As for sellers I'm putting my money on BoyMaster and GermanExpress
I did take it in two bombs an hour a apart though...But yea this paste was WET. Dry its bout 3 grams...I need to try a few other vendors methinks.
Better not ingest wet paste, never know what's used to make it wet.
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Better not ingest wet paste, never know what's used to make it wet.
Hmm its a tricky one that. I read online when people say "my paste is wet, what should I do?" people just say eat it anyway. Maybe the thing making it wet is whats making me feel god-awful right now, because I have no idea what it is making this comedown! ???
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Thats probably because AAkovens speed isn't the best, my guess is that it's heavily cut with caffeine. Caffeine comedowns are horrible indeed.
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Thats probably because AAkovens speed isn't the best, my guess is that it's heavily cut with caffeine. Caffeine comedowns are horrible indeed.
Maby thats it...because honestly...if every gets this comdown with speed, I cant see why they would keep doing it. Ive felt just awful over the past few hours. Like drinking nothing but spirits in an evening and waking up without drinking at water. Eating is a task and a half...I cant sleep it off...ugh.
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Sounds like Caffeine to me;)
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Thats probably because AAkovens speed isn't the best, my guess is that it's heavily cut with caffeine. Caffeine comedowns are horrible indeed.
Maby thats it...because honestly...if every gets this comdown with speed, I cant see why they would keep doing it. Ive felt just awful over the past few hours. Like drinking nothing but spirits in an evening and waking up without drinking at water. Eating is a task and a half...I cant sleep it off...ugh.
Caffeine is indeed notorious for giving a worse comedown.
I know it can be hard but do try to eat something like for example a wet potato salad or yogurt or something like that, if you have vitamin pills take one or two.
Yes that's true, dumb of me not to advice that in the first place.
Not eating will only make it worse, so try and put something down that throat of yours :P
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Caffeine is indeed notorious for giving a worse comedown.
I know it can be hard but do try to eat something like for example a wet potato salad or yogurt or something like that, if you have vitamin pills take one or two.
Sounds like Caffeine to me;)
Yea I ate a big meal during my worst part of the comedown. The effects may have been exaggerated as I havnt eaten much today and im normally a bottomless pit.
**** That is was cut with caffeine. Now what do I do with 3 dried grams of this stuff? Thanks for all suggestions and replies and stuff. Do either of you recommend me trying speed again from a different vendor, or if I didnt enjoy the comedown, its not worth me trying it again?
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You can wash the caffeine out of the speed!
I think anhydrous acetone will do this.
Do some research!
Basically you need a funnel and filter and some Epsom salts and some 99.9% pure acetone off some of the major retail websites. Ebay and so on.
Good luck!
I reduced 5 grams of weak amphetamine to one gram of as yet untested speed.
I am not an expert so ask others also before you do this.
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Is there a guide on how to do this? Extracting the speed from the cutting agent, I mean.
I just ordered a gram from DopeyDwarf, so Ill review upon completion. I was planning on getting more, but when I got to reading this thread I decided to play it safe until I figure out who has what.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L3ZBeD64iE
Really easy tutorial for an acetone wash
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Anything over 200mg of caffeine will have you feeling like absolute shit pretty quickly. Especially if there is real amphetamine in the mix as well. I am a pretty heavy coffee drinker and if I exceed 200mgs or so I really regret it. The rest of the day is effectively ruined though I don't have any trouble eating or sleeping.
Proper amphetamine has relatively few side effects compared to good effects and anything that has you nauseated and sweating with a dreadful comedown is probably full of caffeine. Force yourself to eat and drink lots of water. Eat loads of fruit and some whole wheat bread or something. Nothing too fancy as you won't enjoy it much anyway. Drink lots of juice!
I just received my gram tester from BoyMaster and will test it over the weekend. It smells something fierce! Really awful chemical smell. I'm not a veteran of street speed (have used pharms more extensively) so I can't say whether the smell is a good thing or not........
Also the packaging was really funky and interesting! I do think he put maybe TOO much effort into it especially for a small order!
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You all seem to be allergic to caffeine :).
I'm running low in the amphetamine department and need to buy some more. Wise with experience, I turn to this thread for advice. What can you guys tell me about the current situation?
I'm currently choosing between BoyMaster and GermanExpress. Does BoyMaster vacuum seal his stuff? What lawnmower writes about "TOO much effort" makes me a bit nervous. What about GermanExpress?
And, of course. How is the quality?
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No he didnt, but its a very safe package!
And i think also that its too much effort for 1g!
But im not shure with the stuff, it has a very own smell, absolutly untypicall, but it works well!
Hope somebody test it in near future!
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Got sample from discount drugs poor quality glad just sample ,have good wekend guys ;D ;)
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Got sample from discount drugs poor quality glad just sample ,have good wekend guys ;D ;)
As I expected...
Recommended sellers still are:
- BoyMaster
- GermanExpress
8)
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has anyone else tried discount drugs? i know they have a "street speed" listing and a higher quality one as well, was supposed to be getting a sample pack but if it's confirmed that they both suck I won't even bother with it.
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I bought both from Discountdrugs and will review next week.
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has anyone else tried discount drugs?
Learn to read ;)
Got sample from discount drugs, poor quality. glad just sample, have good weekend guys ;D ;)
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has anyone else tried discount drugs?
Learn to read ;)
Got sample from discount drugs, poor quality. glad just sample, have good weekend guys ;D ;)
Discountdrugs has only positive ratings. 100%. And why doesn't "fast dude" give him a bad rating if he really bought something and it really was bad???????
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Okay than buy the speed and see for yourself. Why trust someone on the forums and all that right ::)
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has anyone else tried discount drugs?
Learn to read ;)
Got sample from discount drugs, poor quality. glad just sample, have good weekend guys ;D ;)
ha, yeah I know how to read. I saw that one person (with only a handful of posts) said it wasn't great but didn't mention which quality they got or any specifics at all... that's why i asked if anyone ELSE had gotten any of his stuff. i don't really wanna totally write off a new seller because of one member's review and the two sellers everyone is loving right now don't ship outside of the eu. i'm guessing more people will have got their samples by monday though...as of now all reviews on his account say it's above average or really good but I would trust forum members w/reps much more than those.
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Okay than buy the speed and see for yourself. Why trust someone on the forums and all that right ::)
Yes, I bought the cheap and the more expensive one. We will see.
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I got the package from BoyMaster last night. It took 4 days to get to the UK.
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The speed was slightly over weight. It came as an off-white, slightly damp paste. It has very little smell. I weighed up 20mg to begin with. It tended to clump together, but with a bit of effort cut up okay with a credit card.
It burnt slightly for around 5 seconds on snorting.
For the first hour, i felt a little scattered but full of go. Doing some work outside, and had trouble concentrating. Very mind euphoria. This mellowed after an hour, and for the next two i felt completely clear headed and full of energy. Felt chatty and a little horny.
Topped up with 10mg after three hours, and felt clear headed, mildly euphoric, and full of energy for another couple of hours or so.
I can't be more objective, as i haven't washed it yet. It didn't seem to be cut with anything psychoactive - but that means exactly nothing as i have no way of properly testing.
I can say, though - this is amphetamine, and it's very good. I had 30mg weighed from 11.30 this morning, and at 21.30 i feel past the peak for sure, but don't think i'll be sleeping soon. Judging by the come up and comedown, it appears to be quite clean.
I'm 50kg, so your mileage may vary. Definitely good product, though.
edited for grammar.
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From what I've heard Naphyrone produces a powerful physical high that creates heat flashes and a desire to move around, and if anything decreases attention span, as well as having a hellish hangover/comedown
Naphyrone was actually one of my favourite sitmulants. Complete clear headedness, serious confidence boost where you feel like you can take on the world (completely without the coke arrogance), and is very socially inclinded. At no more than 10mg doses. Any more, and you see the symptoms you describe.
Not to mentrion, it REALLY doesn't synergies with tobacco - actually makes you feel really dirty and irritable. Also, you REEK of a drug lab (even worse than mepthedorne), and re-dosing makes you feel like abject shite, regardless of the dose
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I got 0.5g of the phet aspirantcooper was selling - it's very potent and I believe what he says about the purity. 40mg had me nicely alert and able to get pretty much everything I needed to do done. And also made me throw away what I had left of my 5g from Der Speed Doktor...
Have also recently received 1g off boymaster, which I will be testing soon. I will post a comparison when I do. Agreed on his packaging looking like an IED though :P
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i got the 1btc a gram off him, just to see what it was like, and it deffo is basic street speed, thers amphetamine in there, without a doubt, smells like its been cut with baby powder but for 1 btc its worth it, ill be trying the good stuff next as the guys def got real speed, and hes a pleasent easy going dude to do a deal wi, kooshty malarky !
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I have asked this before, but does anyone sell smokeable speed I don't understand why its not available, I sometimes prefer it to smokin meth cos it doesn't leave you as jittery and it gives you a nice rush, I wish someone could help me out here
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Deveany and nameless tell you what order and try for yourselves ,im not trying to put anyone off buying anything ,as for one person with a handful of posts so wat the fuck that to do with anything ,i know wat im talking about with phet belive me ive done it long enough and old school base blew you away the buzz you got .Just cause you are full member does that make your oppinion better ?As far as i can tell there are two top notch sellers on here just now BOY MASTER stuff excellent,and GERMAN EXPRESS also top notch phet .But then again wat the fuck do i know i aint a FULL FUCKIN MEMBER yet .
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Sounds like quality speed is back on the Road :)! In the end I placed an order with BoyMaster.
I have finals coming up next week, and due to the insane workload I've been using daily for around two weeks. My tolerance is higher than ever (around 200mg oral daily). It's weird, now I am actually looking forward to NOT using amphetamine for a while, haha. It really takes a toll, both physical and mental.
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I really wish vendors wouldn't put any metal into the package. The reason, metal shows up as a massive dark blob on the x-ray and if you think about it, is a pretty weird thing in a small package.
Organic matter such as plastic and drugs is generally orange, so wrapped in some sheets of A4 it will blend into one orange mass.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2140702/South-Korea-customs-officials-thousands-pills-filled-powdered-human-baby-flesh.html
Take a look at the video near the bottom to see what I mean. Put me off ordering from Boymaster.
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Revealing the packaging method of the vendor from which you've ordered and discussing the packaging strategies is perhaps not the best thing to do :P
That's a good rule of thumb, but if the packaging is particularly bad (see the thread about AAkoven for example) I think it's good to warn other potential buyers. I would have thought twice about ordering from BoyMaster had I known he packs his stuff like a tiny mail bomb.
Seriously, the best way to package small amounts of powdered drugs is no secret. Double-vacuum, a couple of folded A4:s and a businessy-looking envelope. I have yet to see a better way to pack. More exotic strategies might be good if you are shipping larger amounts, but that's a whole different ballgame anyway. I still haven't seen the actual package though, maybe it's brilliant. I'm guessing BoyMaster developed this elaborate packaging to ship large orders and then just used the same technique for smaller orders. In that case I agree discussing his methods here is double-plus-bad.
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It seems that nobody here has seen ever a (edited), they are going on and on through all europe (and the world) by mail. You can buy one on ebay or some online shop.(edited) But if you think that 1 or 10g of something organic in a plain letter isn't something strange (LOL) you'll have plain letters from now, no problem, less work for us.
Anyway if the camouflage has been revealed there's no point on continuing with it. If someone still wants a stealthy package, ask for it with your address, it'll be a new one.
Bye!!
Boymaster
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Boymaster
Makes more sense now. Continue with it because it was a good package.
If you do use plain letters please consider using window envelopes. I've never received any legit letter that wasn't in a window envelope.
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Too late my friend. Package shouldn't be ever revealed. Think a while before posting such info in a public forum. There should be a rule for that things like delete the post and ban if it's necessary... It's so stupid. You can talk about it without specifying how it's made...
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Too late my friend. Package shouldn't be ever revealed. Think a while before posting such info in a public forum. There should be a rule for that things like delete the post and ban if it's necessary... It's so stupid. You can talk about it without specifying how it's made...
Too bad it was revealed. At least now that you've explained it, your buyers know that you take packaging seriously. That's a big plus for me at least.
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GermanExpress is tha man!! His stuff is super!
Great taste, look, feel, smell and effect.. Even the burn isn't that harsh at all
I am hoping his quality will remain consistent so we can start a long-term business relationship 8)
Recommended vendor #1 for sure now ;D
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Just on the tail end of 3 days of BoyMaster's speed. Good stuff! Feel pretty goddamn terrible right about now :D
Real shame about the packaging being revealed, I thought it was great! Really funky. Keep up the good work BM!
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Personally I agree with Boy Master such discussions should be grounds for ban. I have caught others in other threads openly ruining a great package scheme and endangering everyone. Think about it that is why even on the finalize page they remind everyone not to do it. Seriously boy and girls some sense and fear is in order here. No tolerance for this kind of BS..
Peace and carry on with the good work of telling everyone who has the real goods
Hilly
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Why is that exactly not to discuss the packaging?
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Why is that exactly not to discuss the packaging?
Discussing the stealthiness by calling it good, bad, obvious or non-existing is ok, but some were giving material details making the method worthless for further use, that was plain stupid.
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there is way too much discussion on how things should or are being packaged on a few threads at the moment.
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Not carrying the subject of packin on but thought boy masters good ,threw me till i opened it ,and yeh quality fast mate keep up good work. :)
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If you do use plain letters please consider using window envelopes. I've never received any legit letter that wasn't in a window envelope.
This!
I am going to make an order with BoyMaster in the coming week for 1 or 2g. Too bad the packaging was revealed.
If you read this BoyMaster, where does the figure 70% come from? Approximations or analysis, I don't really care, the reviews have convinced me, just curious.
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Hey guys ! Ordered 2x 1g from Boymaster, first order i placed about 2 weeks ago and seems to be lost :( but my 2nd order which i placed 5 days ago arrived today :)
Just snorted a tiny line and feels pretty good, going to start a binge and see how long this gear will take me, will update in here :)
Thanks anyway Boymaster !
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Thurius: http://energycontrol.org/analisis-de-sustancias.html
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Boymaster,
any chance you'll ever ship outside the EU?
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BoyMaster's amph arrived very fast. Original packaging, good weight. Did like 30mg. few hours ago for a working day. Feels alright. Will do a full dose on Friday for going out, but I think this amph is close to what I got from AspirantCooper. Most important for me is not to get a nasty comedown, because I'm sensitive to street speed, or whatever it's cut with.
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I got a gram from AspirantCooper, and I can safely say its the best overall that I've had. Juergen's medical phosphate is a bit stronger and cleaner in my estimation, but not by a large margin, and I've had more euphoria with this. It's also only 60% of the cost, and thereby a clear winner. Unfortunately there isn't more listed right now, but not being in the EU as far as I'm concerned this is the only phet worth having! I hope he is able to continue supplying more.
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Just waiting on Boymasters speed to arrive and will be ordering GE speed as soon as my BTC drop into my account.I must say its exciting times at the moment for speed users as its been a very long time since any good quality speed as been available on SR for a reasonable price.
Read good reviews of both the new sellers and cant wait to try their product.Les just hope they can keep the quality and stock levels high,as im sure there are lots of people here on SR been waiting for good speed vendors.
Good luck to both vendors,cant wait to try their products.Will report back here on quality and effects.
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Boymaster's amph!
I love the packaging!
Wet substance, precise 1.00 gram.
Did a bit of the finest crumbs that were dry enough to snort off a fingertip, now it's an hour later and, wow, head still in the clouds!
Nothing nasty to say about this amph.
I want a kilo of this stuff! 5 kilo! Who needs coke!
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I am a first time speed user and just wanted to know what boymaster's speed tastes like and do a full dose anytime soon.
But the small dose was enough to get me high. Unfortunately it didn't affect me in any positive way. I can't sleep until now. Awake since about 34 hours. But no euphoria or anything :( And I have withdrawal feelings but seems to be normal as far as what I've heard.
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I am a first time speed user and just wanted to know what boymaster's speed tastes like and do a full dose anytime soon.
But the small dose was enough to get me high. Unfortunately it didn't affect me in any positive way. I can't sleep until now. Awake since about 34 hours. But no euphoria or anything :( And I have withdrawal feelings but seems to be normal as far as what I've heard.
Sorry to hear. Insomnia is a very common effect even at very low doses, for this reason I always keep a good sedative close when doing stimulants.
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"keep a good sedative close"
what does that mean?
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"keep a good sedative close"
what does that mean?
pop a valium or another benzo if you have problems sleeopng ;)
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Seriously I'd never combine uppers with downers, sure it's nice to sleep but come on.
You know you did Amphetamine, you know it'll keep you awake.. so take some and prepare to stay awake.
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I think the same as Knomo,its not wise to combine uppers with downers!
For what u take Amphetamin if u want sleep? :o
I think maybe u should try the caffein-speed we have discuesd a few sites earlier! ::)
greets
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Indeed, I only use speed when I'm tired and still have/want to go on for about 6-8 hours.. after that and a lot of drinks I can usually get some sleep, if not I just start doing shit that still need to be done until I'm ready to go to bed :)
Rookies always need to learn the hard way, best lesson imo
When I'm up all night I always do some in the morning, so I can get through the day without feeling miserable. In the evening (when that line in the morning has worn of) I'll go to bed early, next day I'm rested and feeling pretty OK.
Speed doesn't give me a bad hang-over, sleep deprivation does!
You just have to plan ahead with speed, as with any drugs really... If I pop a pill, I know the party is going to start and just go with it!
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I prefer to add in a side waser with my upper/downer combination. Valium is probably the safest of the benzo's (downer). My side-waser would be some washed cocaine......small amount I surprisingly have found to be relaxing.
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If I'm too wired to fall asleep I'll pop a valium or 2. Does not strike me as a dangerous combination, I never have any problems and I wake up the next day feeling great.
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Seriously I'd never combine uppers with downers, sure it's nice to sleep but come on.
You know you did Amphetamine, you know it'll keep you awake.. so take some and prepare to stay awake.
I don't see any reason not to take a downer and get a decent amount of sleep. Doesn't even have to be a benzo, in fact I prefer the antihistamines since they are not addictive. After being out the whole night, nothing sucks more than lying in your bed staring at the roof not being able to sleep.. Usually I'll feel crap enough when I wake up without adding further sleep deprivation into the mix :).
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So is everyone in agreement, that the best speed i can buy at this time would be from boymaster?
Most of the posts agree but some people were suggesting germanexpress? or something like that.
I've received too many packages of 'speed' that evena whole gram did nothing of so this time wanna make sure it will actuallly work lol :)
thanks
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Yes either GermanExpress of BoyMaster is fine.
You should really order both to test for yourself which one you prefer, because both 'feel' different :)
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i decided to go with boymaster, im a *very* occasional user so just wanted to experience some higher quality stuff than has been on SR recently, so i dont want 2 grams lying around at one time lol. I'm mainly gonna be using it for studying anyway as i have exams in a couple weeks which i should be revising for now lol :S
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i decided to go with boymaster, im a *very* occasional user so just wanted to experience some higher quality stuff than has been on SR recently, so i dont want 2 grams lying around at one time lol. I'm mainly gonna be using it for studying anyway as i have exams in a couple weeks which i should be revising for now lol :S
I feel ya man, I'm studying for my finals at the moment too ::)
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Seriously I'd never combine uppers with downers, sure it's nice to sleep but come on.
You know you did Amphetamine, you know it'll keep you awake.. so take some and prepare to stay awake.
I don't see any reason not to take a downer and get a decent amount of sleep. Doesn't even have to be a benzo, in fact I prefer the antihistamines since they are not addictive. After being out the whole night, nothing sucks more than lying in your bed staring at the roof not being able to sleep.. Usually I'll feel crap enough when I wake up without adding further sleep deprivation into the mix :).
Just NEVER start combining uppers and downers when you're not going to bed
Downers are good to go to sleep AFTER too much uppers but if you start doing uppers after that you will have a big chance of having a seizure.
This is because you will be more likely to do too much uppers after a downer, if that downer starts to wear of you'll still have TOO much uppers in your body with all the bad effects.
It's like this:
UP-->UP-->UP-->DOWN--> go to sleep
NEVER:
UP-->UP-->UP-->DOWN--> still can't go to sleep -->UP-->UP (still can't feel these???) --> UP??? --> DOWNer starts to wear of and your hart WILL go in overdrive...
My 2 cents
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I'm currently on 60 mg ritalin ER, took 30 mg orally and snorted 30 mg 2 hours later... WoW, it feel quite good :D (better than shit speed I get from the street)
It's been 5 hours since I started and it's still working it's magic
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Almost out of stock until next week! will advice
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Almost out of stock until next week! will advice
I was just about to ask what happened to the >5g listings. Thanks for keeping us updated!
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Ahh man. Just got my BTC sorted and i've noticed BoyMaster has run out of 5 and 10 g amounts. Been reading such good reports and excited to try it. Any idea when this will be restocked? Is it worth placing an order with germanexpress instead? How do they compare (i know i will have to try both). Also some reviews:
PremiumDutch: Doesn't feel like speed, think it was some other kind of RC.
dmtdoodeelsd: Despite the price tag and claims of purity...totally worthless. Very wet and basically from what i can tell contained almost no active ingredient
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GermanExpress started requiring early finalization from everyone, so I guess I'll keep buying from BoyMaster...
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Look forward to boymasters - its been a few days now but we had all these holidays in the UK so post is slow.
Also a UK to UK package is at the stage of resolve now - I hate slow post. Maybe the postal workers need some of boymasters go-fast!
Will report asap on quality. Will dry overnight first I guess. Will NOT wash as boymaster knows his chemistry and knows I am a newbie. But he thoughtfully did message me to put me right on some things.
Also re benzos. I see nothing wrong with taking maybe 10mg of REAL benzo. There are tabs here too risky. 'Blues' which might have 10mg or might have 1mg. Roche 2mg Valium suit me. 3-4 of those and its lights out.
Sometimes its ok to stay up all night but best take speed early in the day. Use it to be productive. I have some study and would do a 24 hr stint with some good speed. Or smoking hash! ;D
Actually hash or a good Indica bud is the best come down for stimulants.
A few beers is ok for speed. Cocaine and alcohol do create a poison if you use enough. In the UK its OK. Too little coke to ever produce enough poisons or toxins.
So - as the old song goes...
Mr postman look and see
If there's a letter a letter for me
Why is it taking such a long time
To hear from that boy of mine!
;)
Bring it on baby.
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BoyMasters's stuff is hardly wet at all, maybe a bit clumped together, but definitely doesn't need an overnight drying :P
Ready to go in a few mins :)
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GermanExpress started requiring early finalization from everyone, so I guess I'll keep buying from BoyMaster...
Was going to test a gram - but think he had 5 gram listings as min.
I would urge caution to anyone who has had a taste of this recent batch of speed from buying big weights and finalizing early.
No disrespect to the vendor. Speed does bring scammers. Speed addicts are good scammers so maybe this FE came after a obvious 'no shows' percentage that points to scammers lying about products not coming. If so its easy to report that in the profile.
But good customers who have ALWAYS got the delivery and always paid for it, customers who have spent 200-300 BTC ad who do not order an unusually large amount (buyer scammers will order small and then order something bigger! Addicts do this!) I wanted some of the German Express but wia PM asking for Escrow as my record is 97% due to some vendor not resending and just refunding without me even asking or allowing time for the 'package' (a lousy 3 BTC) to arrive!
After the Tony Fiasco and after losing a buddies money also on 'this great dealer from Canada' I am too wary about new vendors asking one and all to FE.
A vendor with good speed right now can pick and choose buyers. You see the stats. you know who is a risk. New buyers wanting 50 grams of speed if a vendor has a 50% refund have to be treated with caution. Buyers with good stats and spends wanting the usual 5 gram or maybe a bump up to ten gram should be trusted.
SR has to give good buyers that protection.
But as ever you pay your BTC and make your choice.
I choose to wait till the two good vendors at the moment are restocked and comments here are glowing and we get escrow.
So, do not get carried way thinking you ought to spend your rent on this great speed. It is tempting for people who have had a good time on the recent top speed here to want to risk grabbing 25 grams or something more.
I know what speed addicts are like! Used to be one! But now those days are no more. ;D
Its a kinda dirty alternative to coke. Who wants to waste grams of coke at festivals or working long shifts?
If you had a house to decorate speed is the best choice.
Coke is special.
Speed is also,
But with coke 5 times the price of speed it has to be used on special occasions.
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+1 for that Red.
I was almost ready for ordering btc to buy 10grams of GermanExpress's speed, but now with him requiring FE I too will wait a bit to see what's happening.
What I hope of course is a consistent quality, not that he made us all drool for more with sending out great samples while the real deal is cut by 50% caffeine. (not accusing GermanExpress of anything, just expressing my worries).
My stats are great too, never auto finalized or had issues, so might PM him to ask if I can stay in escrow as well..
We'll see what happens :)
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I can understand your worries but all I can say is that I'm here to stay and the speed quality will not change ;-)
Requiring FE right now has nothing to do with being worried about getting scammed by some buyers .. so far I've only had good experiences with buyers and did not really pay a lot of attention to their stats. The only reason I am doing this right now is because of the cashflow. I had to use my last cash to get some more speed and to pay for shipping out the last orders. After having sold almost 2 kilos of speed in less than 2 weeks it feels pretty bad to be borrowing money from friends just to be able to buy something to eat. My last BTC exchange went bad (exchangers fault .. but I'm sure he's going to make it right)..
Right now I just can't afford shipping out ~1kg per week while having to wait for 2 weeks until I finally get some cash.
I could have also just taken down the listings and waited for another week or so to buy some more speed but I wanted to keep this going.
If you are worried about FE and don't wanna place an order now that's ok , sooner or later I will probably do full escrow only again just right now it's pretty much impossible to satisfy everyone.
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Just placed 10g order with germanexpress. Got back to me quickly, good comms, seems like a decent guy. Order is already marked as in transit. Looking forward to seeing what all the fuss is about.
Can anyone compare with the speed docs good batch?
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BoyMasters gear just arrived here and I really liked the packaging. Took about a week total to the US. Judging by the reviews I fully expect to be very happy tomorrow when I take it out for a spin. Will check weight on analytical balance tomorrow as well but expect it is all great just my way to do things right in any case.
Peace and Great Vibes
Hilly
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Big day also received Discount Drugs package. It was packaged well and in more in the tradition i have seen from some of the NL vendors. Very well sealed and no smell. Once opened that smell is there right away. Now received a sample pack and hate to say it but only 2 out the four were labelled in any way so kind of guessing. The paste is nice and white looking while the street and super speed versions have a more yellow look to them. One of the samples the one that looked like it was marked Best paste had the bottom corner slightly in the heat seal so I tried a small line of it about 30mg. Very mild taste and burn as i prefer the nasal approach. Nice drain follows in the expected time frame and I like the jump from it. The euphoria is there even at the relatively small dose i tried. Right now 4 hours in the push is still quite nice and clean. I hope the rest of the samples are just as good. The dried base sample looks great but will save it for last. Tomorrow will be BoyMasters tasting so Will report back after more taste testing.
Hilly
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I can understand your worries but all I can say is that I'm here to stay and the speed quality will not change ;-)
Requiring FE right now has nothing to do with being worried about getting scammed by some buyers .. so far I've only had good experiences with buyers and did not really pay a lot of attention to their stats. The only reason I am doing this right now is because of the cashflow. I had to use my last cash to get some more speed and to pay for shipping out the last orders. After having sold almost 2 kilos of speed in less than 2 weeks it feels pretty bad to be borrowing money from friends just to be able to buy something to eat. My last BTC exchange went bad (exchangers fault .. but I'm sure he's going to make it right)..
Right now I just can't afford shipping out ~1kg per week while having to wait for 2 weeks until I finally get some cash.
I could have also just taken down the listings and waited for another week or so to buy some more speed but I wanted to keep this going.
If you are worried about FE and don't wanna place an order now that's ok , sooner or later I will probably do full escrow only again just right now it's pretty much impossible to satisfy everyone.
We get it GermPress. But maybe you might want to consider doing it the way Silk Road creaters made it. Slow down a bit until your coins come in bro. We don't accept FE. Period. And it does affect cash flow, but there is a reason for keeping your money in Escropw and coins. To protect it. When you finalize early you're chanceing that you just threw your cash out da door!
DON'T EVER FINALIZE EARLY. PERIOD!
Has nothing to do with trust!
MnP :) ???
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Dude relax , nobody is forcing you or anyone to FE or even order from me at all.
As soon as I got enough cash to be able to afford it I will go back to using escrow only.. until then I require FE from my customers. Easy as that ... PERIOD ;)
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Don't get discouraged GermanExpress:) for oldtimers here it's a matter of principle not to finalize to anyone.
On another topic, I'm on BoyMaster's speed for three days straight. I do a little bump in the morning, have a good productive day and after couple of joints in the evening I get a good nights sleep. Hope I won't get addicted, because I really enjoy how functional I get on speed:) [first step to addiction, right?]
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Dude relax , nobody is forcing you or anyone to FE or even order from me at all.
As soon as I got enough cash to be able to afford it I will go back to using escrow only.. until then I require FE from my customers. Easy as that ... PERIOD ;)
OK your a new vendor and smetimes IRL we spend to get some quality., here we have to work with /btc and its not easy with lots of BTC!
I will FE but I would not ?FE on anything too big.
I guess I got enough coke and speed if boy masters turns up. got 1.something of speed docs so called ok stuff. Washed also. 20% left maybe.
A good speed vendor having sent out quality samples could maybe take 1000 BTC on FE.
I may /Fe on a small amount but 10 grams no way. Too risky. I'll FE when my package arrives. I do not test. Its 5/5 until I test. I am not addicted to speed so cam wait till the vendors have enough to sell with escrow to customers who have a good record. Asking to FE for buyers wo have bo purchase is kegit, /asking poeople who always finalie on items is a bit too much for me.
Sounds like good speed. But I can get coke on escrow, that is 20+ BTC
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Big day also received Discount Drugs package. It was packaged well and in more in the tradition i have seen from some of the NL vendors. Very well sealed and no smell. Once opened that smell is there right away. Now received a sample pack and hate to say it but only 2 out the four were labelled in any way so kind of guessing. The paste is nice and white looking while the street and super speed versions have a more yellow look to them. One of the samples the one that looked like it was marked Best paste had the bottom corner slightly in the heat seal so I tried a small line of it about 30mg. Very mild taste and burn as i prefer the nasal approach. Nice drain follows in the expected time frame and I like the jump from it. The euphoria is there even at the relatively small dose i tried. Right now 4 hours in the push is still quite nice and clean. I hope the rest of the samples are just as good. The dried base sample looks great but will save it for last. Tomorrow will be BoyMasters tasting so Will report back after more taste testing.
Hilly
Strange thing. About 20 minutes after your post, you realized that you also got DiscountDrugs' package and were 4 hours on it?
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^time travel, duh
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Has anyone tried the meth from Crystall Wife? (I know this is not the meth thread, but I thought I'd ask here anyway.)
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Has anyone tried the meth from Crystall Wife? (I know this is not the meth thread, but I thought I'd ask here anyway.)
Does not belong here. See http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=9715.0
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Has anyone tried the meth from Crystall Wife? (I know this is not the meth thread, but I thought I'd ask here anyway.)
Does not belong here. See http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=9715.0
You obviously didn't read my post. I want to know if any of the "regular" amphetamine users have experience with this particular meth vendor. If I wanted to know if *anyone at all* has any experience buying from Crystall Wife, I would have asked in the thread you linked to. I still might :).
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has anybody tried boymaster´s Speed and discountdrugs Best Base?
which one is the better one?
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has anybody tried boymaster´s Speed and discountdrugs Best Base?
which one is the better one?
just ordered from boymaster think its really good stuff
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I'm on it right now, 2 lines today.. max 60mg or so.. still buzzing a bit 8)
Almost 11PM now... :P
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My order off boymaster was shipped on the 29 May but not yet arrived. All other UK'ers seem to have got theirs!
Also got another order took ten working days!
Hope tomorrow is my lucky day as I got 3 orders waiting and would really like to have them!
As would we all - lol - like you order and it gets beamed out to a USB material transporter.
I got those jittery feelings you get when EU and UK orders take ten days or so :)
And I will finlize even if its a no show as its small orders really and my perfect stats got hit by some vendor who refunded without asking.
Anyhow - any UK'ers waited a few days for boymasters stuff? He shipped a few hours after the order.
Hope it comes! ;D
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Well with the jubilee and all that, I'd give it a bit for them to catch up.. :)
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Here is a photo of der speed doks yellow batch washed the first time.
We eventually got 5 grams white but only got 1.something grams.
Not tested this as a buddy got it.
(http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/thumbs/cb33a10399f13905a1ec921edabd246a.jpg) (http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=cb33a10399f13905a1ec921edabd246a.jpg)
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Lol that looks baaddd.... ;D Good thing you washed it
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SPEED review: juergens Polish Speed Paste
I´m always looking for the best Speed here.I tried 4 different sellers here. Some say they have 70% purity (LOL)
Last week i ordered juergens new Polish Speed Paste.He says its 35% pure
It was the best and strongest SPEED i ever bought here on Silk Road in the last 5 months.From now i don´t want anything other .
I took only 0,5 gram together with a friend.I snorted only 3 little lines and i couldn´t sleep for 2 days.It´s burning in the nose.That´s a sign that´s its high uncut quality and pure.If it is mixed it wouldn't burn as much as this.(Its burning just 4 seconds a little bit, than it´s over.)
3 vendors here on SR say in their reviews that they have 70% pure quality. I ordered and tested them all.It was not bad really Speed but if i used it could eat food one hour after using it and in the evening i could go to bed to sleep. If you have really high quality uncut SPEED you definitely cant eat anything because you have no hunger and you cant sleep this day.I use this 2 symptoms for measuring the quality of SPEED (My personal Speed test).
2 grams of juergens polish paste cost 38,50 Dollar.If you buy more its cheaper.It´s absolutely worth that money.On the contrary it´s cheaper because you only have to use the half amount of dosage you normal use if you have other "standard Speed."
I promise you, if you buy juergens polish paste you never want anything other.
He also sells Dutch Speed Paste, it´s also nice and for my opinion it it´s always better than the Speed of other vendors.But his new Polish Speed is really much stronger.
The big question is, why did all other vendor say they have 70% quality Speed but in real life it is much weaker than juergens 35% polish Paste ???
On this example you can see that you cant trust sellers reviews.
juegens 35% Polish Speed Paste is 2-3 times stronger than other vendors 70% Speed.
And i really know what im saying.I tested 3 other vendors,always looking for the best quality (Aakoven,Pfandleiher,DrAmsterdam,Der Speed Doktor). The Speed was not really shit, but the difference from the quality of Speed of this 3 vendors and juergen is like "Night & Day"
I can 100% say that juergen has the best Speed on Silk Road at the moment.I hope he can provide this quality for ever.
Here are 2 listings of juergens "Polish Speed Paste":
15g-POLISH-SPEED-PASTE: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/158e6eff30
2g of POLISH-SPEED-PASTE: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/1ee99aa884
If anybody also tested juergens polish speed paste please post your experience here ... !!
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Well you tried 4 different vendors, but you did try the worst vendors :)
If you followed this topic for a bit you would have known that BoyMaster and GermanExpress sell the real deal ;)
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Well you tried 4 different vendors, but you did try the worst vendors :)
If you followed this topic for a bit you would have known that BoyMaster and GermanExpress sell the real deal ;)
GermanExpress also says that his Speed is High quality amphetamine purity ~70%
If you tested juergens Polish Speed Paste and you know that this is 35% than all other other vendors wont tell the truth if they say that they have 70% purity. If it was really 2 times stronger than you would die if you take a sniff.
Why do 3 vendors all say the exact same (70% Quality) ??? Why not 68% or 60 or 73% ?? Did they copy their info from each other ?
Maeby the quality from BoyMaster and GermanExpress is also nice, but im sure it´s no 70% purity.
If it is strong like juergens than its 35% purity.
I have no need to check any other SPEED because it cant be better than juergens.In best case its the same quality, in lowest case its weaker quality.
But if its the same quality than the other vendors make false informations because it is no 70% purity. And for telling true informations about purity juergen is my favorite guy if i want to buy Speed.In the last 20 years i had nothing stronger than juergens polish paste.
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So you haven't tried mine yet ? I'll send you a sample if you want , then you can give us an honest comparison & feedback.
I doubt that juergen's 35% paste is better than mine .. would be willing to put it to the test :)
I could not use up half a gram of my paste in 2 days without ending up in an ER probably ;-) No need to go over 100mg if you don't have a strong tolerance .. 30mg should do the trick.
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I got boymasters today. ;)
Not used as I got to dry.
Packaging was innovative.
Not sure if I will use tonight.
But will report on the boymasters but needs drying before snorting.
Tempted to clean it but the BM said not to as it did not need it.
Looking forward! ;D
And I will try that Polish also.
Funny thing is Polish in the UK seem to keep there drugs to themselves. They use for sure. All those guys and girls on long shifts, lol. But not met a Pole who hinted they could deliver some Polish speed to me.
Guess that as guests in the UK they are being diplomatic. Nice peoples. Do make a good amphetamine! Guess the strict laws in Poland keep them very coy even in the UK.
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Here is a photo of der speed doks yellow batch washed the first time.
We eventually got 5 grams white but only got 1.something grams.
Not tested this as a buddy got it.
(http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/thumbs/cb33a10399f13905a1ec921edabd246a.jpg) (http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=cb33a10399f13905a1ec921edabd246a.jpg)
You have wased 5g from the doc and became only 1 g? 4g bullshit lost?^^
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Hi guys hope boymaster not away to long seems like he just got here ,his sulf very potent has to be treated with a bit of respect .Light the touch paper and twenty mins later its like ka boom .German express stuff next on my list have a good weekend guys .
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GermanExpress' speed arrived (took a few days, but it made it here after all) which is very good timing with the footie game tonight and planning on going out. So, I've just scrubbed off a few bits of the wet'ish paste and letting it dry. In the meantime I'll take a shower and prepare some breakfast and afterwards I'll give an update on the actual quality of the speed. So far, I'm very impressed and I have to say GermanExpress is a great guy and will step out of his way to satisfy his customers. So, keep an eye on my update in a tad.
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Here's my promised update: Damn, what can I say? GE's stuff is serious. Just snorted a small dose, maybe 15-20mg tops (don't have a scale) like 15 minutes ago. Have to say I'm not a regular speed user, but from my past experiences I can say this is probably the best I've ever had. Doesn't burn immediately, but then a few seconds later it hits you for a few seconds and it tastes absolutely clean and potent. I can confidently say this stuff is the real deal and I'm not exaggerating. A sense of overall well-being and the typical sort of dry mouth, constantly thinking about when to go for another smoke. No sense of appetite at all, and very stimulated feeling, I feel like cleaning up my flat now. Energy must release a bit :)
So, if you're concerned about the quality - worry no more. You can confidently place an order from this top vendor. Thanks GE!
Edit: A word on packaging: very stealthy! Should make it to every corner of the world with no problems.
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First time buyer on SR, Going to place an order with GE, Hope its as good as everyone else says, cant wait.
Will update this as soon as I get it, with regards to quality etc.
Oh and a big hello to all on SR!
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Howdy all,
Well piss poor connections kept me off mostly the last day or so.
Yep Nameless that Base was pretty good and the purple kush i had smoke just before the post and as I was getting ready to start reviewing seemed to have been pretty damn strong. If you follow all the threads as you chastised someone else for posting about crystall wife here I also receive from someone over there too. Big day and I was so excited and trully hard to decide who to sample first. Guess that open corner on the DD base sorted it out for me. I realized as i stared at my first post and watch foreverrrr for the next post i was wanting to write it probably was easier to simply edit that first post but seemed too painful to click back and wait then edit and wait...
I sorted out all my tempting new gear and weighed on my trusty 5 place analytical. I love Mettler.
So far out of the sample pack of Discount drugs I have tasted the street, super and best base. Waiting for the nice dry looking base sample as it seemed to make to go weakest to strongest as advertised. As you will note from above broke this experimental notion early in the mission that first drooling day with some to choose from but look one is leaking ever so slightly...Do not snort that street grade.eww almost puked when the drain hit. To the vendors credit I note he has added instructions and good information on his listings. The super while having the same relative appearance and smell was much better. No that is pretty decent pick me up and the vendor does let you know it has been stepped on so no false illusions here. Good push decent drain and some euphoria. The base is much better was dried overnight and still nice drain and little burn. I must admit the few months I have playing with meth which i like to snort so for you non older school kiddies realize my comparison is jaded. Had nice three week break but some tolerance is in play. All the weights were well over except the free sample of the dried base which was pretty much on the button. My 2 gram super pack which hit the freezer was 2.88752g. This weight was using a blank baggie and not trying to scoop out the speed into weighing dish.
Boy Master s gear was sampled the next morning after that little taste I had before my last post here. Tannish to beige in color slightly damp and about 50mg was left out to dry overnight. The morning it had lightened in color to more off white and still has smell very similiar to DD above. That line tasted pretty good and drained nicely in expected range of time. The lift happens fairly quickly for me in half hour and lasts very nicely for 5-6 hours. Great energy and feeling but not a lot euphoria but accept I am tainted and back on the horse chasing that feeling. Weight was right on the button and realize I pinched that tester before weighing.
Peace
Ad Great Vibes
Hilly
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hillybilly2, so it seems you prefer DiscountDrug's base to Boy Master's or was that just due to some added tolerance?
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Anybody recommend a good UK based speed vendor? :P
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I do actually prefer the Discount drugs base. Today after some fun with a touch of shards under glass and even on the comedown, pulled a nice line of the dried base from DD and found it quite good. The best of the lot. Flying right now a couple after the line say about 40mgs. The taste while still slightly muted is much better on the drain. I still find most of the European speed either salty or chalky maybe. Assume that a cut taste personally. Shards have a completely different taste on drain. This best base dried is what I will be coming back for without question. Very strong and euphoric. The other best base is good too but more solvent taste even upon overnight drying so assume some sort of alcohol perhaps. Maybe if I leave it a desiccator under little vacuum I can dry that closer to this without heat. Have to do the cost analysis to justify the extra step.
Peace and Have a Great Weekend
Hilly
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I do actually prefer the Discount drugs base. Today after some fun with a touch of shards under glass and even on the comedown, pulled a nice line of the dried base from DD and found it quite good. The best of the lot. Flying right now a couple after the line say about 40mgs. The taste while still slightly muted is much better on the drain. I still find most of the European speed either salty or chalky maybe. Assume that a cut taste personally. Shards have a completely different taste on drain. This best base dried is what I will be coming back for without question. Very strong and euphoric. The other best base is good too but more solvent taste even upon overnight drying so assume some sort of alcohol perhaps. Maybe if I leave it a desiccator under little vacuum I can dry that closer to this without heat. Have to do the cost analysis to justify the extra step.
Peace and Have a Great Weekend
Hilly
+1 for the good reviews, gonna check of DD's best base
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hillybilly2, how much did you do with the BB?
I wanted to test the best one first, but don't know if 20-40g are/were enough?
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Anybody recommend a good UK based speed vendor? :P
I'm thinking its looking like DiscountDrugs 'DRIED BEST BASE'. May give it a try myself as BoyMaster is out of stock and its UK domestic. Not tried speed for years but I could do with losing some weight ;D
I'll post a review when I get it, probably order tomorrow as its a bit late for me to muster the motivation to be dicking around with bitcoins. :P
Edit - don't have enough BTC :o so don't hold out for a fast review.
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I'm thinking its looking like DiscountDrugs 'DRIED BEST BASE'. May give it a try myself as BoyMaster is out of stock and its UK domestic. Not tried speed for years but I could do with losing some weight ;D
I'll post a review when I get it, probably order tomorrow as its a bit late for me to muster the motivation to be dicking around with bitcoins. :P
Edit - don't have enough BTC :o so don't hold out for a fast review.
Let us know what its like, was gonna order from DD but ended up ordering from GE because of the posts in the forum saying how good his stuff was.
Should be expecting my stuff from GE by 22/6/2012 so will post a review when I get it
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I think dosage is highly dependent on your tolerance and body mass and method of consumption. If you have not done any stims or x in the last couple of weeks 20-40 would be a good start. First time on any new supply I dip out about 40-50 mg not grams lol and try that. The Best Base is damp so le that putty dry out and it will be much more pleasant to snort. DD is calling it in at 15% moisture and i have not had a real chance to check that on my own. My next order will be larger so I will have more to do the quality control check. Moisture weighting and price difference against the dried version will be the determining factor for me. I have the means to do all the fancy drying technique that do not require any heat. The 5 gram package of the BB is a good price and if truly only 15% solvent then the way to go if you take your time to dry it out right. Everyone is different and we all react differently to chemical of all kinds. A smaller sampling to start makes perfect sense to me. Try the best three out there now if you can get a gram of each the price is very reasonable in my opinion. Certainly next to outrageous prices and fd up shipping going on for meth here in the US.
Hilly
Hilly
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Ok so after many weeks i loged again and i have to ask.
Where is Juergens amphetamine phosphate medical grade? Anyone knows if it will be back? I used to take 20mg orally and studying just fine...Did we have any news about this?
Anything else compared to this these days? I just read about 30 pages in fast mode. One of the 2 guys seems to be out of stock and other guy is selling out of escrow?
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I'm thinking its looking like DiscountDrugs 'DRIED BEST BASE'. May give it a try myself as BoyMaster is out of stock and its UK domestic. Not tried speed for years but I could do with losing some weight ;D
I'll post a review when I get it, probably order tomorrow as its a bit late for me to muster the motivation to be dicking around with bitcoins. :P
Edit - don't have enough BTC :o so don't hold out for a fast review.
Let us know what its like, was gonna order from DD but ended up ordering from GE because of the posts in the forum saying how good his stuff was.
Should be expecting my stuff from GE by 22/6/2012 so will post a review when I get it
Will do skipper, about to place my order soon with DD (Fiiiinally got around to getting some BTC.) So expect a full review when i've sampled ;D I wanted to use GE to be honest but not sure I'd want more than 1g of speed lying about, i'd end up giving myself a coronary. :P
Fingers crossed its got 0 %caffeine in because even a weak instant coffee sends me running to the shitter more than any other stimulant.
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I MADE THIS ACCOUNT TO WRITE ONLY THIS :
Discount Drugs seems to me a very good scam to make money. I may be wrong. I dont have any knowledge or whatever but here is my thinking:
He is only here for 15 days. Still he has so many transactions,135? Some of the comments are puzzling too.
He claims to have what noone has. Very good speed. Perfect bait since noone sells and people just want to try. He also sells many other things. In 15 days its difficult i believe for someone to learn and process 135 orders
The FE scenario has again be played and many guys wanted got scammed. I dont remember name but someone did it with good prices of adderall ;) Again something cant easily be find.
The claim that you need early the money to buy products is bullshit. Come on now....
A member here, Knomo has like 600 messages in les than a month. This is what a scammer would do. Gain trust. Knomo says Discount Drugs is very good. But i am afraid he is the same person.
Of course i cant be sure for this. I may be totally wrong and i am sorry for both guys. I hope you wont take it personally. After all we are anonymous here.
But ffs guys. Dont FE! Especially with someone who is here 15days and says he has everything you need. As knomo's picture says... You Gonna Get Raped........
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Hello, can someone tell me honest seller of N4 H, that is profesional, and 4 operations 2 wanted me to rip. If someone can help me send me a PM or leave qui thank you all information.
Thanks.
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I MADE THIS ACCOUNT TO WRITE ONLY THIS :
Lol dude, piss off. I've never even tried DiscountDrugs's stuff or said it was good. If anything I said it wasn't to be trusted.
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I've now got an order in for DD's base (they have not actioned it yet tho); but I won't FE for anyone selling for less than a month without a reasonable amount of recent feedback... So, we'll see what happens ;)
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I've put an order in with DD in my mates account CnutFinger75, not for speed but for oral morph. I was requested to FE as I have no feedback at present.
I will make sure I leave a review on the forum as soon as I can verify their legitimacy.
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Slightly off-topic: How do you guys store the wet paste? I put it in the fridge 2-3 days ago, but noticed the smell has slightly decreased. I suppose this is normal. Anyway, any recommendations on proper storing? Am curious whether after 2-3 weeks in the fridge the amphetamine might lose some of its quality? Better to store it in the freezer maybe?
Oh, just a note on my earlier review of GE's paste. I had a blast! I took maybe 100 mg's during the course of 12 hours or so and even 36 hours later my pupils were still a bit dilated. So don't underestimate its power ;)
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There's nothing wet you want there. Just let it dry out and store it that way, in a cool dry place away from sunlight. Only people who keep it wet are middlemen that will eventually be selling it to somebody else because they don't want to lose the weight. Don't believe anybody that tells you there's freebase amphetamine in them liquids. That smell is just nasty solvents and you don't really want to ingest them.
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Well I always store my paste in the freezer.. Just a personal thing maybe, do still dry the crap out of it before I use it tho.
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I dry the hell out of it also :)
Then I use some glossy magazine and make a 'wrap'. I put the first initial of the vendor on the wrap.
Then I store in a safe or in some stashes I built.
So far I got speed off AA (washed) and a mate gave me his 5 gram of yellowish paste off Der Speed Dok - he had two batches, one was total shit the other some said was ok but they were using 200mg which WAY too much amphetamine and merely proof it is VERY unclean.
We washed the 5 gram of yellow paste to 1.4 grams of white odorless powder. Not bothered even testing as we had other things to play with ;D
Also got the boy-masters speed. That is ready to be put in a wrap so I will weight it up dried to hell! Not tested because something came up today and work had to be cancelled and shit sorted out. So no speed for me!
Also got the DD either here or on the way. That will be dried to hell and then put in a wrap for later use. I am thinking of getting some glass vials to store powders in.
So I got two verified amphetamines. I will be ruthless in my review - but if trusted members here have given it a thumbs up then its good enough for me. Vendors can say what they like - they have to say its 'great' but then someone pops up here and tells us that its actually just rubbish.
I will be ruthless because I hate seeing people lose money on drugs. I never sold drugs but know plenty who do and have sorted friends out whenever they asked for something. Anything apart from coke! I can but it cheap as shit but will not sell someone rubbish.. I would sooner bin a bad product then sell it on.
I got to be positive and say that we HAVE got some good speed back again! That is good. And having choices is good because speed differes from batch to batch.
We need a few experts to explain how to wash amphetamine. I use ether to get speed out of UK coke and I guess ether would get crap out of speed also. So would water as speed is water solubale. So if you put your speed in the recommended amount of distilled water. Anything that does not dissolve is not amphetamine. Temp of water may be an issue also but I am just learning this washing process and do not claim to be a scientist! I wash products off here and take photos of the before and after and the cut and the active material you paid for.
I am also good at weed and hash and all associated products.
Top tip! Save your good bud for coming down off the speed! Its a waste of bud when speeding! And if your actually paying 3 BTC for a gram of bud here, smoke ciggarettes instead. I like alcohol when high on speed. But speed has MANY uses unlike coke which is a one trick pony. A very good one trick pony!
So keep the reports coming on all vendors offerings in the speed/amphetamine genre.
Mine will be in this weekend. I can only test one speed at a time. No way can I start with boymasters and finish on the DD. I will use BM's first as he was fast posting it out. If my DD best base has arrived today I will come back later and talk more shit.
Speed is the thinking man or woman's alternative to UK coke. I promise you that if you use UK coke - good speed will make you feel way better and for longer! No more sneaking to the toilet every 20 mins!
One last tip -only snort product to test it out. Use a small line. 25mg is my tester line. That way you can determine pretty quickly if its good. I'd wait an hour tops before redosing. then I'd move onto a 50mg 'bomb' (powder wrapped in a rolling paper). I'd say if I took less than 250mg and was bouncing around for 12 hours plus - I'd be happy.
I like to test in the daytime. I eat a BIG meal because when high on speed most do not like to eat. Always force yourself to eat coming down. Scrambled eggs, some fruit juices, bananas and if you can make smoothies then buy cheap fruit and live healthy!
Here is hoping we get more vendors here with good amphetamine at a good price also.
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I eat a BIG meal because when high on speed most do not like to eat. Always force yourself to eat coming down. Scrambled eggs, some fruit juices, bananas and if you can make smoothies then buy cheap fruit and live healthy!
There has never been better advise. I'll assume that all of us here are pretty experienced though, and we all have our own way of dealing with really a bad comedown.
Was about to buy another batch from the boy, but it looks like he's out of stock. God damn.
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All salt based drugs are very soluble in water, they have to be to get inside your body easily
Base isn't, that's why you have to smoke it to get it inside
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I got my order from DD today - I have a few orders so wondered what it actually was! Vacuum sealed in a bag not see through. But it had a mark and I knew is was the 'best base'. So that was 3 working days as he posted on a Saturday after ordering late Friday. I like a fast vendor! Boymaster was fast also! And all who got his amphetamine learnt a lesson in sending drugs via mail. You get lots of ideas looking at how the BM gets his out to us. no talk of packaging is allowed of course.
As for the DD best base - This was wet! Took a photo of the bag.
Top marks for vacuum sealing also DD.
Now I am drying out the amphetamine and the bag also as the stuff sticks to the bag as it dries out. I simply put the speed in a small Pyrex dish on top of the radiator or covered in a black bag in the sunshine which is free!
The DD amphetamine soon becomes just hard blocks in a couple of hours. I will then grind it down with a teaspoon - press it into the Pyrex as thin as I can. A few hours later I scrape it all with a clean razor blade and chop finely, spoon it again and chop again. I ought to get a pestle and mortar.
I like to store in simple 'wraps' made out of magazine glossy paper. Storing powder in baggies you always lose some and have to lick the bag. In a paper wrap its easier to store away and in the UK this was the method used for decades by most dealers.. I place the wrap inside a small baggie and store in cool conditions after it is bone dry and chopped to a fine powder for my first tester lines. then I take it in a drink or something. Snorting speed is best just done for testing purposes. Even if you get more effect snorting its cheap enough to take orally also. I worry about damage to noses. If you get into a habit of snorting then a decade or two of that will mess you up. Even if the speed is 'pure'.
I promised boymaster (who seems to know a lot about cleaning speed) that I would NOT try to clean his speed. He says its good as is. I never weighed his gram but got to say it looks overweight. Will have to weight it and report back. If we have been given 1 gram of wet paste, we may end up with maybe less than 700mg. Boymasters was not as wet. Dried to a bone I have a fine looking gram and look forward to testing this weekend ;D
Was due to test this week in work but we had a funeral to go to. Some funerals its ok to do drugs. If I die dI'd not want morbid drinking sessions. I'd like some speed, coke, MDMA and shrooms and lots of hash and bud, oil and other forms of smoke.
As for experiences here, with speed so far it is not so good!
In fact its the only drug I bought here which I actually put down the sink. I took 1.5 grams of speed (gradually) off a guy now gone called Der Speed Doktor.
I also had the AA street speed - two grams which washed down to like two lines of some greyish powder. Think it was mostly caffeine as when I tried to evaporate the speed I got left with a brown goo! H did say 'no complaints for 1 BTC' but - if someone sold speed for 0.00001 BTC and it was shit - we have the right to complain! In hindsight I should have taken advice off here and never went for it. The vendor ought to have never sold it. I would not have touched that speed with a bargepole. With speed, it got that bad here that I guess a lot of people bought that 1 BTC per 1 gram speed. Then it was 2 grams for 1 BTC. (bitching over)
So far I have not tested the amphetamine off Boymaster or Discount Drugs. I have it here. I see other members giving a thumbs up and expect to have a real good time on both batches. Members opinion I value a lot more than the vendors! Sorry vendors! Some of you are honest about strength but we need reviews off several people to actually get to the truth of the matter. I'll openly state that I will never lie about quality even if its a free sample! Not that I had any free sample of speed.
I will report this weekend unless we can escape from work tomorrow and go to the pub and some sleazy club afterwards and maybe back to someone's home for a little bit of a comedown session. Beer, tea and coffee, fruit juice and a snack.
But with vendors on SR in general I would say I have dealt with many good ones!
Right now we got 3 people who look like they have good speed! I will order off German Express also. That way I can refer to the 3 best speeds we have seen in recent months!
There is a so called 'pure' speed sold here on SR also. Costs more than coke. I mean good speed is great but no way would I pay the same for speed as I would a gram of coke. You'd be better off buying some genuine pharms with real amphetamines in there. Extract that and you got that much sought after pure amphetamine. I mean 100% pure! 70% pure is high! DD does not have a number. GE has a different batch I guess.
So here is hoping the boymaster's speed really is good! And if your reading this, thanks for what looks like overweight. There was more than one gram of wet paste and like I say it was not as wet as this one off DD. Frreezibfg wet paste seems ok but if you dry it and freeze you will be able to snort it after a fine chop with the razor.
As for 'smell' - your amphetamine ought to be pretty odorless if dried properly. Some people go on the smell and will say 'you could smell the goodness when the bag was opened'. Not really. You can smell solvents. Its easy to replicate the smell. Many older people here will testify to having bought speed that smelt so strong you would think it must be powerful. It does not work like that. Its not like cannabis were smell means a lot. You judge hash or weed by smell but obviously have other factors to judge. The main test is using and I will be using some amphetamine soon.
Less than 100 words?
I get paid for writing shit sometimes so come here to let myself go a little radical.
And in work its understood that I need to be at the computer as guys are waiting for orders out there! lol. I got the boss some good coke. And got him some classy MDMA. So my shift is now spent trawling the SR site and forums whilst being paid for doing something else. I do that also but lucky our boss is low tech and is amazed that I can scan, print. listen to music or watch the latest movie and buy some goodies at the same time. I cannot buy through my own account so taught the guys how to get bitcoins. Some I have to do it for them. But we worked together a long time on and off and got that trust. The main thing is the guys see how much £UK it costs to but whatever. They ask me to buy the BTC via their accounts. We spoke about selling BTC and right now if we had done so a couple of months ago we would be looking at making 70p or so from each BTC. Risk also that it goes down! But if you sell BTC you take percentages. you make some coin.
So I had a lot of dealings here and its all been good. Nobody lost anything. I got one wrong order sent but told to keep it and got a refund. I been screwed by 3 vendors but had i tried to buy the wide range of goods I buy here on the streets I'd get ripped off a lot more!
So far I had 3 different speeds which were crap. Most I lost was 9 BTC on 5 grams which I went for in the sale we had recently.
I'm sure the Speed Dok is here under another guise. I think he got a bad batch and was overwhelmed. Imagine having to apologize to a few hundred people and resend something that actually is amphetamine! So if your there dok - you can throw me my 9 BTC to stop that bad Karma!
I HATE being ripped off and IRL it does not happen! I deal with people who I have known a long time. they deal only in quality. The guys who sold speed in the 80s laughed when I told them about the speed I got online. There was shit speed i in the 70s and 80s but there was a LOT of very tasty cheap and very cheerful speed. You could throw 250mg in a your pint at 7.00pm and have a fantastic night pigging out on smoking hash and drinking lots of beer. It seems 'pointless' to get to that level of excess but every once in a while it is good to have a guys night out with come cheap cheerful speed. With coke you will lose the coke high if you drink a few glasses of shots. you will lose the coke high when you smoke some strong bud or hash also. With good speed, you really can keep up on one of those insane stag nights. I like drink but drinking too much always gets me in a mess. With speed that does not happen ever.
Later for the test.
And speed dok! 9 BTC!! Otherwise I will get an Irish relative to do a curse on you! And despite you needing that money for the op to be a lady-boy - no way am I having 9 BTC worth of happy endings off you in the 'joy joy bar' in Bangkok. You ever notice gay guys always use that chat up line? a man can give the best BJ? Well - that is an opinion. My opinion is that its maybe true but only if you could suck your own dick.
Everyone's tried, right? ::)
OK - I get the hint and I am off to leave someone to do a serious review. If the mods are ok maybe we can pin a washing speed thread. I'm just learning this stuff and wish I had paid attention in chemistry lessons in school! Had they shown us how to make amphetamine we would have paid attention. Now the kids get amphetamine if they do not pay attention. Maybe we should go to the doctors and tell him we cannot pay attention and need some of that amphetamine stuff the kids have.
Later for the boy-master test - and may update this with weight of dried speed off BM and DD.
I would sooner see vendors dry their paste or base or whatever they call wet speed. Saw it in the 80s of course. But mostly the people selling it would dry mostly so they could add more bulk to it!
L8r. ;D
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received today 2g from Boymaster let the stuff right now dry report back
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Hi guy's!
A mate of mine just received 5gr speed from GermanExpress which I ordered (after only 5 days), it has a yellowish tint to it (only saw a picture)
Going to test it this weekend, not much just a little test.
(I have no real amp tolerance, use "hard" drugs only once a month or less)
So far, I really recommend GE! Communication was also superb
Will update when I get a chance to test this gear :)
Grtz
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... it has a yellowish tint to it (only saw a picture)...
Must have been the picture .. it's pretty much white I'd say ;-)
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I don't know why but that 70% pure speed from boymaster for me was relatively useless.. I even took 150mg orally (i have no tolerance and I didn't get that dopamine rsh feeling..) I got somehwat dilated pupils but I could barely feel and motivation drive or euphoria.. im not sure why this is. I haven't useed amphetamine sulfate for a while so I should have barely any tolerance.. last time I used some random street speed in north europe and it got me happy sociable and near euphoric.
I am going to try an order from DD but I feel let down by this 70% purity.. I mean 150mg of 70% pure should give something right? and on top of that I snorted like 50 for nothin but somewhat elevated heart rate. Oh well.
I'm glad im readin the forums now before ordering.
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im on the BM stuff right now,but its nowhere 70% purity more like 40% from my feeling and dosing.
i ordered 2g and have the stuff dryed and you know what? only 1,1g left lool but i can´t complain it was only 6 BTC.Packaging was really nice
Will also order from DD stuff and try it
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Wow really? That sucks :o The stuff I got was hardly wet at all and strong as steel
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yes, i mean it was not so bad wet only a bit and i don´t weight it when it was wet. i was one of the last 2g he had listed maybe he hadn´t enough to fill the order which would be not nice.... i have a mg scale that is calibrated and yeah it was a bit under a g underweight , batteries are new too so my weight has no fault
to clarify i snorted 140-150mg before i weighted the whole order so i made an error in the post above and it was 1.24. i received
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I don't know why but that 70% pure speed from boymaster for me was relatively useless.. I even took 150mg orally (i have no tolerance and I didn't get that dopamine rsh feeling..) I got somehwat dilated pupils but I could barely feel and motivation drive or euphoria.. im not sure why this is. I haven't useed amphetamine sulfate for a while so I should have barely any tolerance.. last time I used some random street speed in north europe and it got me happy sociable and near euphoric.
try to snort an 100-150 mg dosage this should make the trick atleast for me, all effects "dilated pupills,sweaty,faster heartbeat and a bit euphoric too. the speed is working if not i wouldn´t write so much ;)
but you are right not the stated 70%
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Boy Masters I never weighed after drying as it looked more than a gram!
Another vendor I lose 50% of the weight. Have messaged but not heard back.
Selling speed 'wet' - could anyone not just throw a few ml of water in with the powder and say it weighed a gram when sent?
I think speed ought to be sold dry.
Like weed!
Will be trying BMs speed tomorrow I guess. Will weigh the actual bone dry white powder. Guessing it is at least a gram.
What percentage loss would you accept with 'wet' speed?
Its just speed that is sold to the customer to actually finish off the chemistry.
I am thinking of an acetone wash also. Speed takes a lot of acetone to dissolve in so maybe we can take out some needless stuff.
Wish I was not working tonight but I think we will be in the cafe by 6.30am eating a BIG breakfast.
Me hungry.
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Ok, took a small line orally (about 50mg) just 30 minutes ago from the 5gr I got from GE (let it dry overnight and on a hot plate) and I have to say this is some very serious potent stuff!
Took it after a small breakfast, didn't have much sleep (4-5 hours) because I took a little to much ritalin yesterday... which really sucks, felt damn tired this morning!
This is the best speed I've had so far and already had some very decent stuff (from more experienced friends), speed from The Netherlands!
Note that I am not a very experienced speed user (done it about 10-20 times now)
Hands down, you're the man GermanExpress! And yes it isn't yellow tinted but plain pure white stuff
Pfff still going stronger and stronger as I'm typing this message, I'm in for a hell of a ride haha
Now let's do a ton of work, I have my final exam on monday :)
Some pictures of the pure white magic:
double vacuum sealed, no scent at all!
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=51bb6ac323c31fa4b82eaf84ca54f9dc.jpg
dried it a little bit:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=a1525a6493a3d7f99a5c2b31984fc590.jpg
after some chopping:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c0ea9e435190e83e6f429068f68c7a32.jpg
Grtzz
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Speed lovers for 30+yrs.First buy on SR from Discount Drugs. 2G tester of DD base and spanked it in a couple of days. Fast safe delivery.and pretty good quality, altho' not the best we've ever had. Bombed .5 then topped up about 4hrs later. Nice rushes and a serious bit of a tweak!!!
Reordering new arrival batch..watch this space.... ;D
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bombing 0.5, doesn't sound like good stuff...
unless you have the tolerance of an elephant :D
Grtz
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This is what I got after drying 5gr from GermanExpress:
next to a AAA-battery
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=69340ae350006c7885dfe5cf2f4b956e.jpg
Can't really estimate how much this is, must be more than 3-4 grams, will weigh it when I get my scale back
Grtz
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Oh my god, you guys have some serious awful cameras... ;-) The weekend just started for me and as it happens, I am already on GE's "pulver". Snorted two 75mg lines (150 mg). This is really good stuff. Will do another 75mg in 30 minutes. Have quite a tolerance since I took ephedrine on a regular basis for the last xx days and also Amph at the weekends.
Since photographing is one of my side-hobbies, I will take some gorgeous photos later and provide them to you guys.
Laterz!
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My DD base was so wet the bag had a few ml of liquid in there. Actually purple! I take it some solvent as the purple tint went away when dried. Photos were taken. On a good camera. Meta data scrubbed!
I ended up with just over 500mg bone dry.
I also think 500mg of amphetamine is a LOT. DD does not claim any % of purity but people like it and will reorder.
If speed was 70% and you dry and wash it. A 25mg line ought to make you fly.
Well - I will go for GE also - in for a penny in for a pound (English saying) All seem good in their own way. And lets face it - the guy who took 500mg is likely used to speed plus if he took 500mg wet then its 250mg really. Washed - who knows what might be left? Actually I will as I am going to acetone wash the speed I get. Boymaster was worried but acetone wash? I cannot see that harming speed - can anyone here advise me on this?
So - the speed may be good but this 'wet' speed or even paste, I guess we would all like it to be sold bone dry. And would pay more for it also.
I know people think its ok to bomb speed - but if its wet - the solvents might damage your stomach. This led to many people getting ulcers in the UK through using speed often.
Snorting speed is the BEST test for me. I eat a big meal - no use eating some speed for an hour but snorting it - takes effect and you will likely digest that meal fast!
I did message DD - but no answer yet. Guy may be busy. We got football! And the speed was 'cheap' and posted in good time. I'm a fan so think I was in for 10% free - so I was a bit kind of 'holy shit' when I weighed the paper wrap. Then put the bone dry powder into it. Simple maths. Anyhow - I think DD was hit with a lot of orders. Is this good speed? Yes! Is it the best ever? Not likely but if you ever got pure speed then you'd not be doing 500mg of it. Not unless you wanted a cardiovascular work-out from hell. 48 hrs of madness! And then the comedown of a few days!
Speed has always been such that a few mg here and there matters little. That is why I like it. An old school drug - tested by hundreds of millions if not billions.
I'd take speed over coke - out of politeness.
The guys in work who got DDs I will check up what loss there is. I know one took 125mg and was flying. that seems 'fair' to me. In fact lets face it if you took a gram and actually had a good night of fun and chat, beer and smoke, its a lot better than were we have been the past few months!
Anyway guys - bear in mind, if your not European, we do get 'wet' speed, but the DD I got was wettest I ever saw. Thing is IRL people who sell speed always dry it. To dry a kilo would need a filter system to stop that giveaway stink! I guess the labs are just one the move a lot - producing and letting go asap. The sale of 'paste' and now 'wet speed' is not the vendors here its the main guys.
I know there is a loss off drying speed. I accept that. but how much of a percentage do we accept as 'acceptable'? 10% - 20 - 30? I think 50% is a bit harsh but if quality is there I got no tolerance so should enjoy it. I know speed very well! You got to take it to actually have an opinion. So later guys and girls. 1 in 4 here are ladies! My wife says 'hello girls'.
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OMG I love this stuff GE!
Been buzzin all day long without jawclenching and learned a lot for my exam on monday w00p
Grtz
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I'm so sad, i didn't get to test it. Package got lost and GE fully refunded - but i really would like to test this stuff. Boymasters stuff is on his travel for more then 10 days now (EU) and i'm not sure it'll arrive. It's as if someone don't want me to (ab)use speed the way i like to.. :P
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We are on air! The amph is as dry as possible, but we'll try to dry it better.
Greets
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We are on air! The amph is as dry as possible, but we'll try to dry it better.
Greets
Ordered new from you, hope it's as good as the previous batch :)
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Just recieved my Speed from GermanExpress, The gear is very good and it weighed bang on, Only thing that bugged me was the packaging, wasnt stealthed at all. If anyone happened to open it, they would have found the contents straight away. But seeing as the package arrived I guess that isnt an issue.
Again the gear is very nice and at a really good price too, Its so hard to find good quality speed in UK now, its a joke./ Will deffo order from GE again
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Had to cancel my order with DD, I know they're very busy but I wanted the stuff for this weekend. It was still in processing after 6 days and I had to resend my address via privnote a couple of days ago; which I was not too comfortable with.
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Just wanted to say that I'm very happy with BoyMasters product! It's very potent stuff, the best I've tried in ages.
Haven't tried the new batch, but I'm sure I will once I need to restock.
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Hey there,
just got Boymasters gear. Damn..tested 50 mg (snorted). Now after 15 minutes i really feel good ^^. Best Speed i had for at least six months. It took quite a long trip to me (11 days within EU) but hey..all that matters is that is arrived. A bit overweight. Concerning the packaging all i want to say, is that the guy is a fucking artist. Really pleased (and it's getting stronger as i write...). Thank you mate!
Cheers
CT
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I don't know why but that 70% pure speed from boymaster for me was relatively useless.. I even took 150mg orally (i have no tolerance and I didn't get that dopamine rsh feeling..) I got somehwat dilated pupils but I could barely feel and motivation drive or euphoria.. im not sure why this is. I haven't used amphetamine sulfate for a while so I should have barely any tolerance.. last time I used some random street speed in north europe and it got me happy sociable and near euphoric.
I think I can clear this up. The Amph compound consists of two (mirrored) Isomers, levo- and dextro-amphetamine.I *think* that in your common speed the ratio should be 50:50, but it hardly ever is.
Now the fun part: the l-amph Isomer is thought to work more on the Noradrenaline receptors, therefore you should get a pretty clean high, you will have high energy and be very speedy in your actions, you'll experience some body-feelings like tingling and you will stay awake for hours on end.
The dextro-amph Isomer is the DOPAMINE counterpart to the levo-amph. It's what gets you in a great mood, you get really self-confident, more sociable, it's just pure fun, but when you crash you HAVE TO redose, just like coke. I used to get Speed with only the d-amph in it, it was still cut but no l-amph. This was during the time when Happy Hardcore was very popular, we proceeded to call it Happy Speed (I still do to this day. haha.). During that time I completely stopped doing Ecstasy because with dextro-amphetamine there really was no need to.
Personally I will only consider Speed REALLY AWESOME, when there is a very notable amount of dextro in it. If you want to experiment a bit with the Isomers you can try Adderall (a racemic mixture of 75% dextro and 25% levo) or even better Dexedrine which is 100% dextro-amphetamine. When (not over)doing dexedrine, you'll notice that you'll be able to fall asleep (because the levoamph is missing). I think the speed being sold on the streets or on the nets is more likely to contain higher amounts of levoamphetamine, because thats usually what party people want - raw power to stay awake as a foundation for all the other drugs :P Amph Sulfate is supposed to be a racemic mixture (meaning a mix with 1:1 ratio), which I somehow don't believe.
Btw: Meth is built the same way, two mirrored Isomers. But I have no idea what Isomer does what.
Wrote that all from memory, so please excuse some errors in the details, but please do point them out!
Quality post man, awesome. +1
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@müslix - unfortunately can't give any karma. But i really would like to thank you for that. Every gap you close in knowledge is a step forward. And you closed quite a gap there. Thx!
Cheers,
CT
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I second that - onoes makes a real insight into the chemistry and interaction of amphetamines! Real top stuff and spoke in a language we can understand! Given some Karma out!
So - your post explains a LOT as I have had a lot of experience in the past with amphetamine. Now its just occasional - I prefer a smoke of weed or related substances to any other drug but I like to dabble!
So in the past - speed differed not because of cuts but the basic chemistry (or sophisticated chemistry). Some speed was immensely euphoric - as good as coke easily which is why many people even today would take speed over coke IF we had the quality!
Some speed was more just wide awake gear. Not so much euphoria but still energetic and chatty.
The strongest speed I had was the so called 'Pink Champagne' batch of the 80s and 90s. The 80s one was just off the charts. It was dry - but not dry to the bone. Stung when snorted. I unwisely put 500mg in a pint of beer. not sleeping that night was normal - but the next night and the next? In the end - we realized it was very pure - so used a lot less! I spent the first night wondering if I ought to visit the hospital. I think I 'overdosed' but not to point I would need medical attention. I would have got a Valium or two maybe but back then we generally never cared much for Valium although ironically it would have aided in the comedown.
Anyhow - I will be judging soon on the main three speeds we have had here. Boymasters (slightly damp paste - dried out to what looks a gram at least) DD (wettest I've seen, dried out to just over 500mg.) and German Express I'll be buying Monday. I've also got some of the AA base - washed but no great losses!) plus the now gone German purveyor of sleeping potions - Der Speed Dok! Well - the guy done some top gear but ended on a finale of some yellow speed that you would not OD if you took 3 grams. I took 1.5 and felt nothing! I still have what may be the 'other yellow' he had - some said it worked in the 200mg range - so we washed it and got 5 grams of yellow down to 1.something grams - its now white.
I got a few reports off fellow workmates and associates who will test speed because they are guys and ladies who got a wealth of experience on speed. Ultimately - I think snorting 25mg up each nose or even testing the 25mg alone is fine. Eat a BIG healthy meal before you use!!! Then snorting is not an issue. I like to snort after a full meal!
And Boymaster! Thanks for offering to dry it a little more! that would great! But your speed was not 'wet' and loss was not that bad. And if you tip the price up a little for dry its fair. If you can keep it the same - its fantastic for users!
Not sure what's happening tonight - me watching Mrs Red do her cocaine. But I got choices. Speed is good as its not an emotionally difficult drug to handle in public. Speed was always VERY popular in the UK pubs before coke. Now coke is so awful that it actually will have speed in there. May as well just buy the speed and enjoy that. Its like coke without the redosing. Only difference is you might sleep easier on real coke. Its a short term stimulant. Speed is more demanding. Lasts longer so takes more of a toll than coke - but coke takes a toll and anyone who says there is none is lying!!
So I will report soon - and bring in the reports off others who don't really say a lot. I make up for that. But if you were sitting on some site, somewhere, in the middle of nowhere, would you not log onto SR and enjoy the forums? I like to contribute as I like to see people get a fair deal is all. Anyone buying off SR without reading every post in the forums relating to that drug should alter their habits and visit here often and give reviews to help determine quality.
So in a way I get paid for doing this. :D
I'm employed to work. Am I working? Sure. People in work buy also and want to know what the news is on this that and the other.
Last thing I want to do is put a friend onto something low quality. We are not used to that. We either use high quality or not use. We don't touch UK coke (for the main) but will wash a few buys of UK coke to see what we end up with. I would be wary of snorting stuff we washed with Acetone, Alcohol and maybe a water dissolve and evaporation! Could be some RC in there. We don't know! But other coke that people we know use seems to be just coke with speed added or like I say some RC. Who would even know? 90% of people buying coke are clueless! With speed its a bigger percentage as many younger people have been weaned on rubbish coke and may be trying speed for the first time. All opinions count. But someone with 1 post saying something was 'fantastic' you have to take that with caution.
Lucky we have members here who know speed and if they say something is no good then that is enough for me to avoid that batch or vendor until things are sorted out.
Laters.
Food time!
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Hey, I actually took some amphetamine tonight ;)
Well - I tried boymasters as he was first to post out and his gram looks like a gram.
He asked me not to wash this - I think he knows his chemistry and knows that some enthusiastic chemistry enthusiasts can mess things up!
Ok - I decided to snort two 25mg lines up each nostril. I weighed, put on a warm bowl I use for chopping powders. Amazing how much you can lose! Anyhow - I chopped it finely and decided to do something I have not done for 20 odd years. I snorted it! I done this as I trust other reviewers here.
So - up the nose it goes. I had a minute of WTF! - eyes a bit teary with the sting. I watched the clock - counted the seconds, paced about and a minute later the sting was fine - I was worried as you know some shitty speed can destroy your nose. Even good stuff hurts. I forgot how bad it was compared to coke. but coke is an anesthetic, speed aint. So you get a sting for a minute and eyes will water. This is on 25mg per nostril dosage.
I snorted after a BIG meal. I knew that taking it orally would not see it kick it as fast. Also I think snorting it makes it more 'direct' and absorbed a lot quicker than just swallowing a 'bomber' (cig paper wrapped with powder contained)
So I snorted at 9.23pm - not planned but Mrs Red had her coke which is nice! I had my share last night - she offered aline off about 120mg - but I said no its ok I will snort some decent speed from Germany instead.
Snort - sting - then sat down to await the effects.
Its now 9.47 and I'm buzzing my tits off - well in a manner of speaking. I got no tits but if I had a pair I'd feel like flashing them to drivers or something. I feel in a cheeky mood! A nice uplift from the speed - drip is ok - but you need a drink. I chose coffee but have got a selection of beers, wine and whiskey! Later maybe!
So - boymaster - me and you never got off to a good start, but I know i sometimes seem like a loudmouth asshole! But - with just 50mg of this speed - I feel great and up for some partying or work or something. I don't feel like eating! Speed ruins appetite so that is why I ate a giant meal.
I am glad I snorted it - as its the 'best' test for the average person. you know, with only 50mg, whether this is good or bad or indifferent. This is good speed. Not the strongest I ever had - but way stronger than the rubbish I bought off here! It IS strong either way. This would be in my top 5% I think of the speeds I had. you get one like this and its a winner.
So - at least, I broke my amphetamine virginity here! I bought one which actually works! I would reckon that if you could wash this speed - you'd end up with 10mg lines knocking you sideways.
But I will not wash it - no need - I now know the dose I need to get me going. I think 100mg would be enough for a real good 8 hours high - and the high is as good as coke - in fact - with good decent speed there is no moodiness. You feel good. Your not looking to redose every 20 mins and when we do redose its surreptitious little slip of the hand in the pub. A 100mg bomb is slipped into the mouth and hey presto.
So far I have I have let half an hour pass since using - but still feel the high getting stronger! I am typing like Mavis Beacon! I could see this making work great for our little crew of drug using alcohol consuming UK males. Would tear into work on this - and if you can work for 2 days and do a weeks worth of work, that is were speed can help.
Be great for parties also. :D
Anyhow - I may redose as 50mg is little and I'd like to see how this goes. Will report back later but initial impression is that its obviously one of the best I had here - that is not saying much because the rest was shit. But this IS a good speed and anyone who knows their speed will say so also.
Thanks Boymaster.
Boy I wish I was in Germany now drinking some German beer with you! That cannot happen sadly - we are all anon here and meeting in person to conduct deals of shake hands is out of the question. On;y a cop would want to meet you! Well - I'd like to meet a few people here but mainly because I could hang out and have a good time. On this speed - I want to hang out somewhere and may have to go the pub or call at a mates and smoke a ton of good hash and feel very little! Speed is here on SR at last!!
Other reviews coming are Discount Drugs and German Express. I have taken no other drugs today. just weed. I am drinking coffee but thinking that beer seems nice. Another 50mg bomber I think i will do. See you later. And if your waiting on BM speed then its really nice.
Looking forward to GE also those Germans sure know how to do things right! (apart from winning wars - sorry!) for the price this is well worth it. you could snort one gram of UK coke and not feel this euphoric and good about yourself and others. And I think I can get it up also - but want to get out first - so thanks BM and thanks SR for making this all possible.
Wish I would have thought of this website first!
Best one I use for shopping! ;D
I hate shopping IRL but here - I love it!
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I love your review but BoyMaster is from Spain not Germany :D
Glad to see you like his stuff too.. and very happy overall to see GOOD speed get sold instead of caffeine ;D
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Interesting posts. I can tell that this is amphetamine thread based on post lengths lol. I bet the opiate threads have half a sentence long posts.
I am almost perplexed at how we perceive the buzz so differently. I guess everyone has different brain chemistry. I for instance do not get much out of ritalin / cocaine (dopamine reuptake inhibitors). I did not get that much out of BoyMaster product either, I did feel very focused and such but I had no noticeable moodlift, but from what I read most people prefer this product so my comments should not discourage anyone. I will say packaging was best I have ever seen and a bit amusing.
Up until recently I had no idea about the differences between dextroamphetamine and amphetamine sulfate, I thought euro street speed was dextro. I have tried methamphetamine and street speed, and the one order on here.
I hope DD is more has more of the d-isomer as muslix points out this might be what I am looking for to replicate the speed I was getting a few years ago in northern Europe. I did use up 2 grams of the boymaster stuff in a couple of days, trying to chase something, testing all ROA's except injection (I will never). It did not have any type of withdrawal or health problems because of it.. (that I know of!) but I did sleep every night with aid of short acting benzo xanax (I'm not benzo dependent- I don't even drink alcohol, and don't take any sleep aids normally that would impede effects of a stimulant- didn't mix either).
Oh well, hopefully one of these sulfates will be the type for me as adderall and dexedrine is more on the pricey side per dose.
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Ok - I am alive - but just had a real bad reaction.
I did the 25mg lines - then the 50mg re-dose.
At around Midnight (I stayed in) I felt a bit hot - I opened the windows a little - but sweat started pouring. Then I began to get a pounding in my head - heart beating very fast.
I said I had not taken for years - so this 100mg of speed - I fucking overdosed!! Had I taken another 50mg I would have been in the hospital!!
The pounding in the head worried me - it felt like my head was going to explode! I made it to the bedroom and slipped under the covers. I knew I needed to lie down - because I was feeling bad all of a sudden!
Spent 3 hours in bed - sweating - head pounding like a migraine from hell.
I admit I done some work after taking the speed - only half an hour - but really pushed it. I took no beer - nor smoked any weed!
I took my speed at 9.00 - re dosed with a mere 50mg. Maybe with eating a bit meal it took the orally taken speed a long time to kick in. When it did - I think it was just too strong a speed. I ought to have stuck with the 25mg lines and left it at that.
Possible I now have some 'allergy' to speed. It happens!
Also - I had BAD pains in my stomach - real bad. I admit part of the reason I stopped using speed was the stomach pains that speed could cause me. Maybe, the better the speed the worse I might get that pain!
So - from feeling fantastic on 50mg - taken about 9.00pm - I ended up re dosing about 10.00pm. At 12 midnight (ish) I felt the heat, sweated badly, then felt my pounding in the head and a stomach that felt like it was going to burst. Its the worse experience on drugs I have had - but not saying the speed is bad (nobody else reported headaches and stomach pains) and I think it was too powerful - and I've spent about 4 hours in bed, sweating, dizzy as hell, almost vomited several times (very rare for me)
Given nobody has had a reaction like this - I guess my tolerance is way down. So please be VERY careful with this speed! If you have not used for a while - two 25mg lines may do you.
I also found i was breathing heavy - in fact I was blowing at times - breathing deeply and fast. I never slept.
I am up now at 04.23 - I feel bad but know I am over the worse. Still a throbbing head - maybe dehydration a little. I was struggling to walk when I got up to go the toilet and grab some orange juice.
Here I am now - 90mg of codeine taken to chill me - smoking a joint - looking to be in bed soon.
I am glad I stayed in! Had I gone like this at a party or house or pub an ambulance would have been called. I feel glad to be alive also - I was worried and glad my women had chosen to stay out. I thought I was dying. Right now I expect to wake up tomorrow and flush my speed because I had a reaction. Sure it may have been too much but if 100mg of speed can make me feel that bad - it does not agree with me. I'm an older guy - took speed hundreds of times in the distant past. My days with speed are over. That decision was made as I struggled to breath and waited for my stomach or head to explode.
I'm still covered in sweat.
Head throbbing.
no way I can eat.
I have had whiteys off weed but its always quick - I run to bed and it over in 5 mins. This was 4 hours of illness and I did feel like I was gonna die.
So BE CAREFUL.
The first three hours were great but another 50mg on top of that sent me into a four hour nightmare. My body is saying to me that I cannot use speed any more.
Goodnight!
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Xanax is a "short-acting" benzodiazepine, but the half life is still 11+ hours and definitely can affect next day buzz from the pep. I have noticed that. I am not sure why, but Xanax particularly seems to have the biggest dampening affect to stimulants in general. Even more so than Valium, which has a half life of 40-60 hours? I'm looking into other sleep options like ambien/lunesta, but they seems to usually not have enough to get me to sleep, so I am going to try seroquel an atypical anti-psychotic that has a half life of 6 hours for those multiple days in a row.
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@redalloverthelandguyhere : Hey mate, hope you're fine now! Your post reminded me (in parts) of a massive panic attack. Odd is the fact, that you were feeling like shit for such a long time. This is kind of a neckbreaker of my panic attack theory. All i can say is that i started taking the same speed from BM yesterday with 50 mg snorted, waited for about 45 minutes - felt great and took until 8.30 p.m. approximately 150 mg orally (in doses of 60-70) - summarized roundabout 200 mg.
I had not taken (good) speed for about 6 months, last time bunkspeed 6 weeks ago. This all happened under the worst (concerning health) circumstances possible - nothing eaten all day, drunk too less nonalcoholic stuff, and too much alcohol. But - beside the fact, that i wasn't able to get some sleep till now, i had no negative side effects whatsoever.
Get well soon!
Cheers,
CT
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Wow Red, I knew that stuff was potent but not that much :o
I have a friend who's been a (heavy) speed user for like 15 years, normally he can sleep on any kind of speed but he couldn't sleep from BoyMasters stuff either :P
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I think I can clear this up. The Amph compound consists of two (mirrored) Isomers, levo- and dextro-amphetamine.I *think* that in your common speed the ratio should be 50:50, but it hardly ever is.
The ratio is *always* 50:50 unless you have taken measures to remove one of the isomers. I guess a chemist who is separating dextro and levo to yield pure dextroamphetamine could use the leftover levoamphetamine to cut an otherwise 50:50-mixture of dl-amphetamine, but that seems exceedingly unlikely. Street amphetamine is racemic (dextro,levo)-amphetamine which by definition contains an equal amount of both isomers.
Now the fun part: the l-amph Isomer is thought to work more on the Noradrenaline receptors, therefore you should get a pretty clean high, you will have high energy and be very speedy in your actions, you'll experience some body-feelings like tingling and you will stay awake for hours on end.
The dextro-amph Isomer is the DOPAMINE counterpart to the levo-amph. It's what gets you in a great mood, you get really self-confident, more sociable, it's just pure fun, but when you crash you HAVE TO redose, just like coke. I used to get Speed with only the d-amph in it, it was still cut but no l-amph. This was during the time when Happy Hardcore was very popular, we proceeded to call it Happy Speed (I still do to this day. haha.). During that time I completely stopped doing Ecstasy because with dextro-amphetamine there really was no need to.
This is essentially correct. I vastly prefer dextroamphetamine over the racemic mixture, but that's probably because noradrenaline (actually norepinephrine) released by the levoamphetamine makes it harder to sit down and study due to excess energy.
Personally I will only consider Speed REALLY AWESOME, when there is a very notable amount of dextro in it. If you want to experiment a bit with the Isomers you can try Adderall (a racemic mixture of 75% dextro and 25% levo) or even better Dexedrine which is 100% dextro-amphetamine. When (not over)doing dexedrine, you'll notice that you'll be able to fall asleep (because the levoamph is missing). I think the speed being sold on the streets or on the nets is more likely to contain higher amounts of levoamphetamine, because thats usually what party people want - raw power to stay awake as a foundation for all the other drugs :P Amph Sulfate is supposed to be a racemic mixture (meaning a mix with 1:1 ratio), which I somehow don't believe.
As I said, street amphetamine very very seldom (if ever) contain anything but a 50:50 mixture of dextro and levo isomers. During synthesis you will get a 50:50 mixture, and the process of separating the isomers is simply not worth it for the ones producing the stuff.
Btw: Meth is built the same way, two mirrored Isomers. But I have no idea what Isomer does what.
Wrote that all from memory, so please excuse some errors in the details, but please do point them out!
Duly pointed out :). Good writeup!
If anyone feels like tweaking out at Wikipedia, I can recommend the pages about "Racemic mixture", "Levoamphetamine" and "Dextroamphetamine".
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Hello guys, here are my experiences with the vendors and their products.
I do not wish to offend anyone, these are my honest unbiased views,
Ta,
-***1gr. Amphetamine Sulphate Uncut*** (imprint) FE. Good communication with vendor, product comes vac packed, v stealthy, good effort and impression so far! Tested recently and the product is fake, whole G taken in an hour, not even the slightest of buzz. More of a kick from a can of Red Bull! 1/5
-GOOD UK STREET SPEED 1 GRAM 1 BITCOIN (AfghanApothecary) Dont waste your time nor your BTC, stay away from this bad vendor! 1/5
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Hello guys, here are my experiences with the vendors and their products.
I do not wish to offend anyone, these are my honest unbiased views,
Ta,
-***1gr. Amphetamine Sulphate Uncut*** (imprint) FE. Good communication with vendor, product comes vac packed, v stealthy, good effort and impression so far! Tested recently and the product is fake, whole G taken in an hour, not even the slightest of buzz. More of a kick from a can of Red Bull! 1/5
-GOOD UK STREET SPEED 1 GRAM 1 BITCOIN (AfghanApothecary) Dont waste your time nor your BTC, stay away from this bad vendor! 1/5
Bad luck there mate, you picked the worse 2 :P
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Glad not just me that tuought AA speed a rip off not even any likeness to a good buzz in fact fellt fuck all off it ,anyway now to the good bits ,boymasters speed very potent quite intense wired ,ge speed very good more of a up lifting buzz still both great value and both vendors i think in class of there own on here .
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Received GermanExpress's package and it weighed 1.5gram overweight :D I couldn't be more happy about this vendor..
Ladies and gentlemen, he is my god ;D
Did I mention the 4 days it took from me ordering till arrive on my doorstep? Booyaahhh
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Boy Masters speed is fucking insane!
And - as for panic attack - nope - it was not a panic attack. And I been feeling pretty good also. Life is good.
Well - I had not taken a good speed for 20 yr. In fact - the only drug I got addicted to was your good old UK speed but I was a lot younger.
I explained in my post how I took the speed at 9.00pm last night. 100mg I used. I did not get a wink of sleep and it was only 7.00am when I finally got over the worse. I have never been s messed up.
My breathing was rapid - even in bed! I was soaked in sweat - and had a headache which felt like a brain blood clot. I did not panic - but sure I was a little bit scared as my heart was racing ALL NIGHT! Well at Midnight when I had the sweats and a crippling headache start - plus a stomach also feeling like an ulcer - I KNEW it was not the speed - it was my body metabolism saying 'Oh fuck - he is back on the speed!'
I did abuse speed in the past. Speed was BIG in the UK before coke and E. It was the only stimulant really available in the local pub.
My last affair with speed ended after a binge - and a few buddies telling me I was losing the plot. I mean out every night - drink, speed, smoking hash, its not long before that lifestyle gets to you. I was also happy sitting in with speed. Writing, other stuff. But I got to say I gave it up due to bad reactions. I gave it up after maybe using half a kilo all in all. I think with ANY chemical drug - its got a window of opportunity usually in your youth! The more you use - the more likely you will build up a big tolerance and there will be some out there who will think 100mg of speed 'nothing'.
Now I am getting older - I just cannot handle speed anymore! Don't read into my post that BM's speed is not good - it is bloody good stuff! My mistake was topping up with the 50mg. I planned to go out - but come midnight I ended up facing a roller coaster horror ride! that 100mg was an overdose. I've taken enough speed to know what the basic overdose signs are. I used some of AA's 'speed' (laughable stuff) and Speed Dok - my buddy! Hey bro you owe me like 9 BTC! Give it up for the Red!
Anyhow -what I went through last night - was VERY unpleasant and I spent from midnight to 7.00am in real agony! This was not all in the mind - it was a strong amphetamine and my physical state was a racing heart - breathing all night as if i was banging the missus on the grand finale! Sweating like I was in a sauna - both hot and cold, and could not rest in one position. The headache alone - I'm being honest here - no way I can chance that EVER happening again. Had I been in company I would have had the guys and girls calling an ambulance.
So - I thank Boymaster and GE - but I confess I put my speed collection in the sink. BM. AA. Speed Doks stuff and the DD 500mg. I apologize to BM for doing that! But - each individual has his or her own reaction to speed. I'm too old for staying up all night (unless its a sex festival in the bedroom!) and my body sent me a loud and clear message. You hit a certain age and some drugs take a toll on you! Everyday someone taking meds they took for years will sicken of them.
May seem drastic throwing the speed away but Mrs Red insisted and in future if I want a stimulant - she says I'm welcome to buy some coke off here! Mrs Red has used other drugs but narrowed her choice to the very occasional puff of my joint - beer and cocaine for special occasions only.
Anyways I got up at 7.00am - smoked a little bit of reefer before going out to do a bit of work for a neighbor. So I'm ok! I popped into the pub - only had a coke - a coke drink!
So - the amphetamine was still working!
My headache died about 8.00am - I ate a little and ate a few things during the day. Told a couple of people I had drank some whiskey - tale sounds the same with speed or whiskey! Some people of course, we don't confess our after hours activities towards!
So all is well that ends well. It was a midnight ride to hell and back - 7 hours of bedridden agony! In the UK - we consider a man very unwell if he does not even want to smoke a bit of bud! And using the speed - I smoked barely any. Not that cannabis has ever made speed go badly! I knew it was quality speed so its not worth wasting decent bud or hash at that point.
Well this will be my last review of amphetamine but I will use my knowledge of amphetamine to help others. Its a drug I had a lot of good times on. Crazy times!
One simple test for speed came back to me as I looked at my shrunken dick! So shrunk it looked like a baby elephants trunk! But don't worry - once it is up its like Viagra with the rest of your body working pretty good also!
Pleae just be VERY careful with the amphetamine here. Many like me grew used to shit quality off here. But this BM amphetamine - 50mg up the nose hit me big time. Another 50mg bombed a couple of hour later or so - hit me too much! It was a bridge too far for me!
Still its a good tale for the workmates tomorrow - the old 'lol I nearly died' story! But seriiously people - I really did think I was on my way out - had visions of my funeral with the eulogy from one of my bros saying "The daft bastard died using speed! - but god forgives that shit and so do we! god bless buddy! And thanks for the bitcoin you left and the smoke for the funeral after party.
I joke - but take great care!!!
The 50 mg of speed I took orally took maybe two hours to come up. Some may have been tempted to do more only to find that they still have not felt the speed taken orally. I had a BIG meal and it took a while to come up.
This is some seriously potent speed - sucks to not be able to use but we all come to an age when some drugs are not good for us.
I took 100mg - have been up all night - nightmare from hell experience. But today although a bit spaced out - I had a smoke with a few buddies also.
Cannabis is a benign drug. Sure I have occasionally over-indulged - but the feeling of sickness soon passes and often as not I can get up again and roll another one.
Oh - I got some Valium powder also - thought about using that last night but was so fucked up I thought it best to leave it as I'd have to have used a lot to actually get asleep!
One fucking overdose for the night is enough!
I swear to one and all here I'm always honest about reviews. Not one word here is made up - this shit actually happened - and here I am at 1.00am -no sleep for 41 hours. I am about to smoke some tasty bud infused with cannabis oil. I will pop a codeine tablet or two and leave the Valium until my head is clear and I buy a real set of scales!
Look forward to some sleep!
I am so glad I only took 100mg. Had I raised the amount to 150mg or 200mg - I would have been in a world of shit! Had I gone out - as planned - with my carrier bag of booze and bag full of bud - I would have looked like one fucked up dude!
My pupils were still looking a bit large at 2.00pm today! 18 hours later! I could feel it still.
It was a nice sunny day in the UK today - I was glad to be there toking on a joint and wielding a hedge trimmer!
Thanks for anyone who expressed concern, thanks people!
Now were does Mrs Red stash her coke! ;D
Actually got to grab a gram for her - and now for me also! 100mg of coke never fucks me up. That is my limit apart from New Year when I might eat a little, wasteful though it might be - I think necking 100mg does certainly work! Some guitar player used to eat coke - never snort it! Expensive - but at £8-10 for 100mg its not bad value if you can do it on special occasions. Coke being expensive - no way could I get addicted! Speed - I've been there and got addicted!
I confess that sometimes you have a drug in the past that you got messed up on. Speed was mine! I should not have gone back to it really.
Its like former heroin addicts who join SR for a bit of hash are faced with the old temptation!
I bought speed off AA (dire) DD (50% loss when dried) and then the Speed Dok whose 5 grams seemed cheap. At least I finally found one that works! I had four hours of that old classic euphoria - the energy and so on - then I had 7 hours of a series of physical reactions to the speed. Thankfully I recovered and had the benefits of a little last speed boost as I done quite a good job today - not just a hedge - I killed the entire family with the trimmer - God told me to do it. lol - I am joking! I recovered enough to eat - but it will be tomorrow when I get my appetite back 100%.
At least I can relate my experience to you - and I know that many speed users will be thinking 'sounds great'.
Funny really - I spent a few BTC here buying speed - looking for a good one that you could feel a 25mg line with. I found it but it went wrong for me and that is just unlucky.
It worked out well in the end. At least I know for 100% sure that me and speed cannot be partners anymore! To be honest - I'm glad I had a bad experience because had I been up all night just doing the shit I used to do on speed I may have picked up a habit! Well - its a possibility! But with Mrs Red ruling my den - no way could I hide that speed dick!
I had forgotten about that! The trepidation as you go to the mans toilets and have to pull out the shrunken little fellow.
Good luck out there!
Be safe!
Watch out for that BM speed! It was a LOT stronger than I anticipated.
GE also - I know his is very good also!
DD I never tested but it was 500mg.
Speed dok - sleeping potion. 1.5 grams and nothing!
Had I used 1.5 grams of BMs speed I would be dead for sure! Unless I got to the hospital in time!
Be careful - weigh everything! I'd suggest that 15 mg of this speed up each nostril would keep you going all day. My mistake was using more - but the reaction I had was so severe - that I took the drastic measure of flushing all my speed away! The speed doks took ages to go down - BMs I think the rats will up for a week if they lick this shit.
That is some seriously potent amphetamine! At least I got a real amphetamine off here. I bought this speed to help others here - but seriously I need to stick to the occasional coke review (once a month or 6 weeks or so) and hash reviews! I could smoke hash all day and all night and review every hash here!
This is my last review of speed!
And hey! Just because I had a bad experience - don't be thinking that it will happen to you! I NEVER had a reaction on speed that bad - cannot recall feeling that fucked up apart from the Pink Champagne speed which I took 500mg of and was up for 2-3 days - first night with racing heart and chain smoking joints all to no effect.
Anyway I am here and well and will be popping off to bed once I count my bitcoins! Won't take too long to count them - ;D
Got some orders to make here - then bedtime I think. Best get that order in Sunday night as its there Monday morning and you might get lucky and get it well before the wkend.
I will lurk here from time to time!
Anyone who sold me shit speed - Karma will get you!
Still at least most of the speed I got here I could not overdose on if I tried!
But Boymasters and German Express - they seem to be the new kids on the block offering quality amphetamine. I might not be able to use speed anymore but I have used enough and had enough good times on it to let others decide for themselves if they prefer speed over coke. I would laugh at people buying UK coke - even guys with money went for speed as it does what coke does but adds 24-48 hrs onto the actual high! But now I am a 'pussy' and have to take the cowards way out with coke!
50mg of BMs coke seemed like a gram worth of coke - the euphoria was great! Well - four hours before I went to shit! How the mighty are fallen! 20 yrs ago I would have bought an oz of that BM speed - in fact - you would have made a killing as the UK was massive amphetamine market.
Stay safe! Take care with the speed sold here as some is powerful and people with low tolerance will be hammered by this stuff.
Laters! ;)
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^ That is the funniest shit ive read in awhile.... Hmmmm maybe you were under the influence when you wrote that.... Hahahah farkk
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müslix: Technical discussions are my cup of tea, no matter the subject :).
I'm not saying that the isomer separation is a highly complex problem, but the most common synthesis route (called the Leuckart method) results in racemic amphetamine.
Of course it makes perfect sense to separate them - if you are a pharmaceutical company selling dextroamphetamine. As you said, this is drug trade. The only thing that matters to illicit amphetamine manufacturers is whether the extra effort makes your profit margin go up. Removing 50% of your product is likely to lessen your profit, no matter the increase in potency. To get the same profits, you will need to cut your dextroamphetamine with something else. Then why not just leave the levoamphetamine in there?
Seeing how chemists normally can't even be asked to remove leftover solvents, I seriously doubt they'll bother removing the levoamphetamine.
About the Walter White vs China issue.. European amphetamine is not imported from China. The Heisenberg scenario is much closer to the truth, but instead if Walter White the cook is probably called Jan Kowalski :).
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Does anyone know if BoyMaster will get back into business?
Sadly, it seems he has removed his listings. I was really looking forward to his product.
GermanExpress is the current best vendor, correct? I just don't feel like buying 5g.
Any of the 1-2g vendors selling a good product?
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Does anyone know if BoyMaster will get back into business?
Sadly, it seems he has removed his listings. I was really looking forward to his product.
GermanExpress is the current best vendor, correct? I just don't feel like buying 5g.
Any of the 1-2g vendors selling a good product?
I got a message from him saying that the quality he had wasn't what he wanted to sell on the Road, so he's going to get better stuff. Should be back online next week.
GermanExpress's stuff is the best right now, I don't know about the 1-2g sellers, but why spend money on inferior products?
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Just received my 5g from GermanExpress. Very wet but looks and smells legit. I'll have to wait until it dries to test the quality! 10 days to the west coast of the US.
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Just received my 5g from GermanExpress. Very wet but looks and smells legit. I'll have to wait until it dries to test the quality! 10 days to the west coast of the US.
How wet is wet? GE was nice enough to let me snag a 2g sample. I hope I dont end up with anything less than 500mg. thx!
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Just received my 5g from GermanExpress. Very wet but looks and smells legit. I'll have to wait until it dries to test the quality! 10 days to the west coast of the US.
How wet is wet? GE was nice enough to let me snag a 2g sample. I hope I dont end up with anything less than 500mg. thx!
I recently received 10gram, turned out to be 11, and when I dried it I had 9.3 gram left over :) That's about 15% loss, or in your case 0.3gram ;)
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Does anyone know if BoyMaster will get back into business?
Sadly, it seems he has removed his listings. I was really looking forward to his product.
GermanExpress is the current best vendor, correct? I just don't feel like buying 5g.
Any of the 1-2g vendors selling a good product?
I got a message from him saying that the quality he had wasn't what he wanted to sell on the Road, so he's going to get better stuff. Should be back online next week.
GermanExpress's stuff is the best right now, I don't know about the 1-2g sellers, but why spend money on inferior products?
Thanks for the quick reply!
That's true, I'll probably wait for BoyMaster to get back into business.
And when he said that the quality he had wasn't what he wanted did he mean a new batch or the old one?
What if he starts selling 99%? ;)
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Does anyone know if BoyMaster will get back into business?
Sadly, it seems he has removed his listings. I was really looking forward to his product.
GermanExpress is the current best vendor, correct? I just don't feel like buying 5g.
Any of the 1-2g vendors selling a good product?
I got a message from him saying that the quality he had wasn't what he wanted to sell on the Road, so he's going to get better stuff. Should be back online next week.
GermanExpress's stuff is the best right now, I don't know about the 1-2g sellers, but why spend money on inferior products?
Thanks for the quick reply!
That's true, I'll probably wait for BoyMaster to get back into business.
And when he said that the quality he had wasn't what he wanted did he mean a new batch or the old one?
What if he starts selling 99%? ;)
BoyMaster already took his listings down last week, because he ran out of his batch I guess. Few days ago they went back up and I ordered, but the order got cancelled and he told me that the quality wasn't what it should be... So that would be about his fresh batch :)
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Ok so i received very fast a sample from German Express. He was very friendly and all. I havent tested the product but it isnt easily soluble in water or ethanol i think . unfortunately i dont have my ez kit.
So i wonder does anyone test the products or you just take it?
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No need to test, I've had about 150mg over the last 24hours and I'm still wide awake :) No messed up caffeine feeling or anything, just a clean buzzzz >:D
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i like that "no need to test" ...
Yes but methylone mephedrone mdpv 4fa and a shiton of others rcs can have you wide awake but arent amphetamine sulfate....
thats why i want to know before i test...
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Well you can go ahead and test it, but I'm almost 100% sure this is the real deal.
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Just received my 5g from GermanExpress. Very wet but looks and smells legit. I'll have to wait until it dries to test the quality! 10 days to the west coast of the US.
How wet is wet? GE was nice enough to let me snag a 2g sample. I hope I dont end up with anything less than 500mg. thx!
It was very wet, soaked through the first bag even. Good thing it was well sealed. It was a little under unfortunately, but the quality is really good. I might do a urine test later today to test for impurities like methamphetamine. The smell is very familiar from when I have bought amphetamines before, but very strong. Jeurgen's medical grade was the only stuff I have tried that was not as wet and pungent. I am not complaining though, GermanExpress rocks!
Also, I know this has been answered but I can't seem to find it. Why is it shipped wet? No time to dry? It smells like acetone maybe? Should I just let it air dry out? I have been pressing it into a business card before lining it up to dry it out some which I hope is fine to do...
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Ah really lol?! Thats sh**! What vendor do you recommend mate?
Hello guys, here are my experiences with the vendors and their products.
I do not wish to offend anyone, these are my honest unbiased views,
Ta,
-***1gr. Amphetamine Sulphate Uncut*** (imprint) FE. Good communication with vendor, product comes vac packed, v stealthy, good effort and impression so far! Tested recently and the product is fake, whole G taken in an hour, not even the slightest of buzz. More of a kick from a can of Red Bull! 1/5
-GOOD UK STREET SPEED 1 GRAM 1 BITCOIN (AfghanApothecary) Dont waste your time nor your BTC, stay away from this bad vendor! 1/5
Bad luck there mate, you picked the worse 2 :P
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Thanks dude! :D
Glad not just me that tuought AA speed a rip off not even any likeness to a good buzz in fact fellt fuck all off it ,anyway now to the good bits ,boymasters speed very potent quite intense wired ,ge speed very good more of a up lifting buzz still both great value and both vendors i think in class of there own on here .
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Ive just received recommendation for 'boymaster', but he has no active listings.......WTF???
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Ive just received recommendation for 'boymaster', but he has no active listings.......WTF???
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.msg297084#msg297084
:) Happy shopping
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Ilike that knomo quote happy shopping ,HAPPY FUCKIN DAYS more like .ha ;)
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Ilike that knomo quote happy shopping ,HAPPY FUCKIN DAYS more like .ha ;)
Yeah glad the whacky speed days are over 8)
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But then the question remains, why is there still speed around that does not cause this dopamine kick. Now I am assuming that a racemic mixture would at least cause some of the desired dopaminergic effects, since Adderall with 75% D-Amphetamine still manager to do this quite well. So someone has to manufacture a quite significant amount of L-Amphetamine for this phenomenon to be noticed here. Or it's the other way around, that a racemic mixture doesn't cause enough of the dopaminergic effects, that some guys add D-Amphetamine. Sadly this sounds like the more plausible scenario. :(
I'm guessing that the speed you describe is probably of poor quality and mixed with caffeine, ephedrine or something more exotic like DMAA. Since it contains very little actual amphetamine you don't get much of a dopamine kick, but since it's cut with something that increases the norepinephrine/noradrenaline release you still feel relatively strong non-dopaminergic effects. Quality racemic dl-amphetamine gives quite a rush without extra dextroamphetamine added.
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@redalloverthelandguyhere
I can't even ... ugh WHAT THE ... DUDE? BENZOS!!! You had some at hand and didn't use 'em? If you really had an overdose (not totally convinced here) and went to the ER, guess what they would have given you! Yes, that's correct! Benzos! You can't just experiment with unknown (in your case even "washed") Speed and not have emergency Benzos at hand and know how to use them. The Benzos might not be the ideal drug for your brain/body but it's definitely better than letting your body go through everything that comes with an OD. holy nothing! (atheist here)
@valentinesmith
yes, of course, profit is everyone's master. But my original argument was based on the assumption, that the amphetamine is being bought at some asian-ish greymarket. If this is not the case and there are some Heisenberg-Labs in ? Eastern Europe ? then they would certainly prefer whatever method gives the most profit in the shortest amount of time.
But then the question remains, why is there still speed around that does not cause this dopamine kick. Now I am assuming that a racemic mixture would at least cause some of the desired dopaminergic effects, since Adderall with 75% D-Amphetamine still manager to do this quite well. So someone has to manufacture a quite significant amount of L-Amphetamine for this phenomenon to be noticed here. Or it's the other way around, that a racemic mixture doesn't cause enough of the dopaminergic effects, that some guys add D-Amphetamine. Sadly this sounds like the more plausible scenario. :(
My account was 100% correct!
I'm OK now!
And I know any amphetamine dose in a hospital might usually see Valium in some IV - but I was FUBAR - I gain nothing by making this up!
The Valium I had was sadly a gram of powder - fiddly at the best of time - even more so when you really are not capable of measuring some exact dose on a set of Chinese scales! And to be honest - I've never taken Valium after using speed. I never done that ever when using speed mainly because Valium was not really a drug sold by my hash/weed dealer or anyone apart from those who dealt in prescription drugs.
So rather than complicate things with another drug I have little tolerance for, and being of no state of mind to do anything but seek the sanctuary of bed, I chose to use nothing. Could not smoke weed or even eat some hash.
I'm not making it up, sure some will do this to attention seek but I don't need to do that. I'm just being honest to members here about the strength of this boymasters speed - and I think I had a reaction and had a very low tolerance of speed.
Well this is the internet and people make all sorts of shit up. Note that I have not stated anything apart from the strength of this being too much for me! 100mg - I stated what I used and how I used it. Even began cheerful as I felt great for four hours then had 7 hours of hell. I got no sleep and spent the next day not eating a lot (unusual for me) and only ate a good meal today whilst still feeling a bit less than 100%.
People can either accept or not accept what I have written. But is it not wise to err on caution? I mean some may think that half a gram of speed is the correct dose. Not with this stuff. And other stuff here also by the sounds of GE and DD. Fairly pure amphetamine can make people ill if they take too much. I took 100mg and that was too much for me.
DD did get back to me on the loss and will recompense me though not speed! I'll buy something else.
Keep safe put there - don't ever take more than a couple of 25mg lines - in fact I think just 25mg of BMs would have been enough.
Now for some bud! ;)
Take too much of that its not a big issue.
But to each their own.
(updated for spelling)
PS - I'll be 100% tomorrow! Sticking to good old bud and hash - good food and plenty to drink (non alcoholic) exercise and might have some MDMA this wkend - funny because that is a meth amphetamine with some 'magic' worked on the chemical structure that turns what might be 48 hrs of high into 5-6 unless you redose. I never redosed on MDMA myself.
Anyway be careful - and like anything - be moderate in dosing until you know purity!
Laters
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Does anybody know something about juergens polish speed?
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nope sorry. All i can say is, the two times i ordered from him (normal speed and once his medical grade overpriced speed ) booth was crap, flushed the toilette...
Anyone else experienceing super long shipping times when ordering from Boymaster ? Iam central EU based and my 3rd order with him was placed 14 days ago, yet no sign :( my first order took also about 18 days the second came withing 4 days. Spain postal system fucked up ?
Gear is outstanding quality.
Will order from German Express next. Curious how his gear competes.
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bought 2 times from AAkhoven, his batches are 100% crap. It more seems like some dry paint.
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Hey! I have just made my first Amphetamine transaction on SR! I went with Dmtdoodeelsd. Order is still processing at the moment, but I will update when I have tried it out.
I wanted to try some of Boymasters stuff, but it seems he isn't going to have anymore listings until next week. :-\
Might have to stock up on BTC for next week!
How do you guys store your Amphetamine when you get bulk orders? Will it lose potency if you don't store it in the fridge\freezer? I saw some answers to this question somewhere else on the forums, but they seemed a bit vague.
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I no longer use ;)
But the best way to store is generally dry it to the bone first!
I have never used a freezer or fridge for safety reasons and would generally place somewhere cool and dark.
Any bulk, you might want to store well away from your fridge, home and so on. Your choice. If your just using its usually OK - but be careful and keep it out of unwanted hands!
PS many would freeze paste if they were passing it onto others. Lose weight = lose value = freezer. Personal use or for buddies then dry to the bone and freeze for that added security.
Never had it that long to test if I lost potency by storing in basic cool room conditions. OK for the UK but not good for those in warmer climes.
Hope that answers. I am certain amphetamine will break down if stored in warm/hot conditions. However Adderall is not stored in a fridge as far as I know. That must have a temp guide on it. A general guide as it were.
Stay safe! Some potent amphetamines here so careful with the dosing and give it time!
laters
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redallovertheland, I've noticed that your posts have gotten about 5 paragraphs shorter now that you've stopped using speed, coincidence?? ::)
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Had the same problems with GermanExpress shipping. But i got a full refund(Escrow). Stuff from the first and second order was extreme potent. First arrived after 3 days , second after 10 days. Third never showed up. I won´t order again before the shipping problem is handled, which is very sad, because now that he´s messing it up with shipping, and BoyMaster hasn´t any active listings, it´s dry as fuck here on the market with "GOOD" Speed.
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I finished that gram of BoyMaster's speed in less than a two weeks. I would say it wasn't as strong as the speed I got from AspirantCooper before (AspirantCooper isn't selling it anymore, at least for now, and it was mad expensive). Also, it's not very euphoric. But I quite like it. Gives me energy when I'm feeling down, and helps me socialize when I'm feeling out of it. Without redosing I have no problem sleeping after 6+ hours and smoking some indica. BTW, anyone else loves that buzz when you're coming down on speed and smoke a few joints? It feels to me that parts of my brain are shutting down, and when I listen to music with earphones with closed eyes it gets very psychedelic - rainbow colored explosive pictures, sometimes I replay best moments of the day in my mind in this asleep-but-awake state:)
The most I did in one night was around 100mg. Comedown wasn't too bad, nothing like negative effects redallovertheland had, but when I redose few times a night I can get only ~3 hours of sleep and then I wake up tired, but can't sleep anymore. I should make a rule for myself - no redosing. It doesn't seem to add much good, but feels more harmful to the body.
Too bad BoyMaster is out of stuff. Since GermanExpress doesn't offer escrow anymore I won't be ordering from anyone else. I don't want to make a habit of taking speed too, after all;)
Got some meth, but to far I'm utterly unimpressed with it and prefer uncut speed. I probably taking too little of it, or have to try different ROA, because I don't see how some people start sucking dicks for it or forget oral hygiene:)
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redallovertheland, I've noticed that your posts have gotten about 5 paragraphs shorter now that you've stopped using speed, coincidence?? ::)
lol, I love his epic speed rants, read every one word for word, really constructive too ...unlike me who just talks bollocks.
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Had the pleasure of trying some of GE's. I need to preface that I had 30mg/day of adderall for two days prior, a few drinks, and had a few-several bumps of c. The product was like wet clay, pure white and weight seemed good (Over, but probably what is advertised once dried out. Dried out and made two 60mg doses in a gel cap. Took one orally about an hour after eating and took the second a couple of hours later. Good to great euphoria, chatty, overall positive well being. No panic, anxiety. After about 6-8 hours felt alert and awake but rush is gone. Overall, the best I have found on here to date.
Once GE gets their packaging improved and I can escrow it again, I will be ordering a lot more. Also, took over two weeks to arrive........Thank you German Express for an overall successful interaction!!!!!!!!
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blergh... cant wait for boymaster to restock on that good stuff.
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Anyone you guys know wen and if boy master doin biz again ?
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Received my DD best base from discount drugs.
It was meant to be 1100mg but weighed 860mg. It was very mildly damp so I assume it perhaps dried in transit thus losing it's weight? A little frustrating, I'll have a try of some oral doses and see how it goes.
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Anyone you guys know wen and if boy master doin biz again ?
Last week he said next week.. :P So that would be this week ::)
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Is there any comments on quality from best base? I just took 60mg of this stuff orally 1.5 hours ago. Hours earlier tried 40mg orally and didn't feel it and even took a nap for an hour. No increase in heart rate, nothing. Even coffee would be 10 times more noticeable atm.. and this is stuff that has presumably been dried in shipping from 1100mg to 860mg.
I did take 1 mg of etizolam before bed yesterday but I don't take benzos normally. I haven't used speed for 2 weeks. I doubt 18 hours after 1mg of etizolam it can completely nullify good amphetamine. I will try tomorrow and see.
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Is there any comments on quality from best base? I just took 60mg of this stuff orally 1.5 hours ago. Hours earlier tried 40mg orally and didn't feel it and even took a nap for an hour. No increase in heart rate, nothing. Even coffee would be 10 times more noticeable atm.. and this is stuff that has presumably been dried in shipping from 1100mg to 860mg.
I did take 1 mg of etizolam before bed yesterday but I don't take benzos normally. I haven't used speed for 2 weeks. I doubt 18 hours after 1mg of etizolam it can completely nullify good amphetamine. I will try tomorrow and see.
The BB did not have any effect on me. Haven't tried the rest of DD's speed sorts, yet. Don't know, if I will.
Boymaster's speed is very good, but the comedown and hangover are fucking insane :(
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Is there any comments on quality from best base? I just took 60mg of this stuff orally 1.5 hours ago. Hours earlier tried 40mg orally and didn't feel it and even took a nap for an hour. No increase in heart rate, nothing. Even coffee would be 10 times more noticeable atm.. and this is stuff that has presumably been dried in shipping from 1100mg to 860mg.
I did take 1 mg of etizolam before bed yesterday but I don't take benzos normally. I haven't used speed for 2 weeks. I doubt 18 hours after 1mg of etizolam it can completely nullify good amphetamine. I will try tomorrow and see.
The BB did not have any effect on me. Haven't tried the rest of DD's speed sorts, yet. Don't know, if I will.
Boymaster's speed is very good, but the comedown and hangover are fucking insane :(
Really?? Cause I just ate another 60mg shard, swallowed it like a pill with water, empty stomach. Feeling nothing after an hour...
If this was like 50% then I'd definitely feel something. I also tried snorting a bit to no effect. There wasn't even any real burn...
is this stuff bunk or something? I have tried boy master, while it is potent there was no mood enhancement.. but at least it got me stimmed from just 50mg. This has done less than half a cup of coffee. Actually it has done nothing.. weird.
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Is there any comments on quality from best base? I just took 60mg of this stuff orally 1.5 hours ago. Hours earlier tried 40mg orally and didn't feel it and even took a nap for an hour. No increase in heart rate, nothing. Even coffee would be 10 times more noticeable atm.. and this is stuff that has presumably been dried in shipping from 1100mg to 860mg.
I did take 1 mg of etizolam before bed yesterday but I don't take benzos normally. I haven't used speed for 2 weeks. I doubt 18 hours after 1mg of etizolam it can completely nullify good amphetamine. I will try tomorrow and see.
The BB did not have any effect on me. Haven't tried the rest of DD's speed sorts, yet. Don't know, if I will.
Boymaster's speed is very good, but the comedown and hangover are fucking insane :(
Really?? Cause I just ate another 60mg shard, swallowed it like a pill with water, empty stomach. Feeling nothing after an hour...
If this was like 50% then I'd definitely feel something. I also tried snorting a bit to no effect. There wasn't even any real burn...
is this stuff bunk or something? I have tried boy master, while it is potent there was no mood enhancement.. but at least it got me stimmed from just 50mg. This has done less than half a cup of coffee. Actually it has done nothing.. weird.
Really what?
I have all the speed sorts from DD, but I doubt, the cheaper ones are better, when the BB did not affect me in any way. Could be bunk, I don't know. Maybe just cut to hell and you have to take 200mg or something.
What do you mean by the coffee thing?
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I meant coffee would give me more effect than 100mg of this stuff. Oddly it comes out as more expensive than boymaster, I think 120mg oral from there would have me feeling uncomfortably wired mild OD. I snorted a 75mg line and nothing happened at all. It lists it strength as "Red bulls".. well, a redbull would give me more effect than this.. So, if I need 200mg to just feel something this is not ok, especially as I only received 860mg. I feel a little ripped off.
I don't feel like ordering 10g of speed from German guy. I don't want to sit on 10g and end up binging. So right now there are no options for speed here. Maybe I should just order some good mdma instead and try to use modafinil for work..
Technically I doubt DD best base is bunk, as in if it was tested there would be amphetamine found. In practice I find it bunk so far because it has given me zero effects at these doses, I'd be more tweaked by a can of red bull.
Tomorrow I'll try 150mg oral then.. if I can not get effect out of it then I will consider it pure garbage. I'm not a stim head, I don't have tolerance. If it's good then my heart shouldn't be sitting at 60bpm...
Very disappointed.
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I meant coffee would give me more effect than 100mg of this stuff. Oddly it comes out as more expensive than boymaster, I think 120mg oral from there would have me feeling uncomfortably wired mild OD. I snorted a 75mg line and nothing happened at all. It lists it strength as "Red bulls".. well, a redbull would give me more effect than this.. So, if I need 200mg to just feel something this is not ok, especially as I only received 860mg. I feel a little ripped off.
Which vendor do you refer to? Don't get it.
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WHY ge gettin all bad f back ? :-[
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WHY ge gettin all bad f back ? :-[
Where does he get bad feedback?!
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'Cause he's apparently not delivering.. I asked him to reply on the forums a few days ago, but he still didn't read my message... ???
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Which vendor do you refer to? Don't get it.
DiscountDrugs
I was told it was for IV I believe.. surely if something is pure enough to be IV'd then 150mg mixed in water a drank should give you some type of effect? Alas, I feel nothing from 150mg taken orally in water.
This is the explanation from discountdrugs when I enquired about dose sizing saying none of my doses caused any effect. I don't quite understand it, maybe someone here can help explain then I don't have to pester the vendor about it.
(this is concerning DD best base)
"ok my friend,
For starters WE test against all other products available and our BB is strongest available bar 2 (both my products) Dried best Base and Crystal purified Speed.....
The lesser products Street and Super are designed for oral usage (as we have made clear) the BB is designed for IV usage (which we have made clear)
these are the only two effective ways to consume Amphetamine (a, dissolved in liquid and drunk, B, IV) after that it drops significantly in bio availability dependent on method of consumption......
Plus to add to which, i supply 90% of SR, Amphetamine have done for months my friend... they all re sell different versions of MY products..."
Right now I'm just perplexed and thinking their speed just isn't very good/potent at all. I'm surprised there's not more comments about discountdrugs speed if they supply 90% of silkroad..
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All starting to look bit bleek on here for good product ,didnt last long havin at least twoo good vendors did it . :-[
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Anyone any feedback about supertrips stuff ?
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Yes, I did finalize now and give it a straight 1/5 in feedback. I feel bad because I don't like to complain or make a fuss.
For reference I rate boymaster speed 4/5, strong potent stimulant action but devoid of mood enhancement (not looking for MDMA high, but even a good cup of coffee can give me mood enhancement- I saw someone mention they got mood enhancement while someone else didn't- YMMV).
DiscountDrugs "Best base" (undried) 1/5, I railed even 100mg total. No burn in nostril even, felt like I was railing mostly cutting agent.. I'd be surprised if this product is more than 5-10% pure. There is definitely amphetamine in the product, just not very much per gram and I never had enough to build up to some megadose to feel something. It arrived 860mg (7 days in transit so dried from 1100mg I assume). The largest dose was 300mg and nothing felt really. 100mg insufflated to no effect or sensation.
I don't know if their lower quality speed is better for oral but I bought the best they had listed at the time.
I don't think DiscountDrugs is a dishonest vendor as he never mention a % purity anywhere and the product does indeed contain some amphetamine sulfate, but it's simply not worth the money as you'd have to use half a gram or something silly orally.
Anyways I only bought a gram just in case and I'm glad I did. I will now have to wait for new vendors or old ones to re-appear.
Yes, the situation is bleak right now. Seems the only way you can get decent speed is if you wish to gamble on 10g.
From all the discussion/feedback I see aakoven and juergen2001 products are not very good (give little to no effect- I have no tried either because of all the bad feedback in thread). GermanExpress does not ship now?
BoyMaster has strong stimulant speed but it does not give me moodlift, maybe does for others.. Also he has no listings.
Haven't read much about the other current vendors stuff but I'm not seeing praise.
Everyone leaves FE early feedback then never comes back to update on quality, this is a problem.
Currently I see no options for me. I guess I could spend $100 with Amsterdope as I've not read anything about the quality. but I don't like having 10g of speed sitting around (I don't use daily and don't wish to binge) or making large first order.
So, I wait and I wait dry. If a vendor showed up with some potent amphetamine right now (and shipped 2-5g) they would have all of the market who bother reading reviews.
I'm not a troll or trying to cause a fuss, I'm a bit new but I'm just a customer and I'm offering my personal experience with the products. I don't exaggerate and I'm not being unfair just for the sake of it. I would not want other people to burn money on something that does not offer what they are looking for.
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Yeah BoyMaster and GermanExpress were the best speed around... BoyMaster will be back as soon as he has new stock and I don't know about GermanExpress... A week ago he was talking to me about jumping in the Coke business too.. Hope nothing bad happened to him, maybe he got arrested while picking up his bricks of cocaine.. :-\
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Yes, too bad redalloverthelandguy flushed everything, he should've put some minilistings for the good stuff he had :)
I've yet to try something that will allow me to type 100 paragraphs in a post (maybe boymaster but I would probably be in a narky mood).
speaking of which..
The Valium I had was sadly a gram of powder - fiddly at the best of time - even more so when you really are not capable of measuring some exact dose on a set of Chinese scales! And to be honest - I've never taken Valium after using speed. I never done that ever when using speed mainly because Valium was not really a drug sold by my hash/weed dealer or anyone apart from those who dealt in prescription drugs.
So rather than complicate things with another drug I have little tolerance for, and being of no state of mind to do anything but seek the sanctuary of bed, I chose to use nothing. Could not smoke weed or even eat some hash.
Not that there will be a next time but, even with no tolerance- 30mg of valium is easy to measure even on a cheap 0.001g scale- it wouldn't be too much of a dose when you're overstimulated and would probably have settled you down. Just for anyone reading. If it was a powder such as etizolam where it's active in 0.5-1mg doses and you only need 2-3mg to help then I can understand as most scales can't measure accurately enough for 1-3 mg. 30mg of valium powder should be easy however and would not be too much with no tolerance- would be enough to bring you down, help your bloodpressure and panicky heartrate and kill anxiety.. thus avoiding the nightmare.
Just so you know, probably wise not to use anymore at a certain age because you need good health / cardio fitness (or a young heart) to sustain strong stimulant use.. but if you do and happen to have a gram of valium powder, it is the salvation.
Still, nobody should ever use amphetamine and not have downers around for crash or potential anxiety attacks. As long as one doesn't binge and get addicted to benzos (benzo withdrawal is worse than any other withdrawal).. but takes a good 2 weeks to get benzo dependency. with etizolam and high doses however you can get a wd from just 5-7 days of high dose aid so. Don't binge! have benzos at hand and know how you react to the benzos pre-hand.
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Wow are Amphetamines on SR really this bad?! I used to get some decent Amphetamine from a friend of a friend, but the dealer didn't speak English and I can't keep asking my friend to get me the stuff all the time. Especially when he doesn't even take it himself! He has a life too. This is partly why I came to SR to get some. I also don't feel comfortable with my friend knowing how much I am buying every transaction and how often.
I am waiting on some stuff from Dmtdoodeelsd still. The stuff is priced high, but the quality seems good based on his 100% rating and all the good feedback he has on his vendor page. I have been waiting since Thursday for the stuff to arrive and it's a domestic order: UK-UK. I'm not sure if this is an unusually long time to wait. It was placed in the "In transit" status on Thursday, but I have been told this doesn't actually mean it's been shipped on that day!
Anyone else in the UK been waiting a long time for stuff to arrive? I suspect it's Royal Fail being slow, but this is my first order and I'm a little skeptical of it ever arriving. Just need experience in receiving stuff I guess and a little faith!
Anyway... When I get the stuff I shall post an honest review! Hopefully it's good. I don't fancy ordering from Aakoven or any alike. 8)
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ohnoes123, I think, your vendor ratings on SR are a bit too strict.
Do you expect same quality at a cheap price like at a high one?
You can't rate DD with 1/5. The product arrived, he isn't a scammer, his stuff is very very cheap and so on. 3/5 would be okay. I rated 5/5, though.
Boymaster definitely deserves 5/5.
It's not his fault, that it didn't affect you. His speed is superb, packaging is excellent, he's a nice guy and the product is very cheap.
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ohnoes123, I think, your vendor ratings on SR are a bit too strict.
Do you expect same quality at a cheap price like at a high one?
You can't rate DD with 1/5. The product arrived, he isn't a scammer, his stuff is very very cheap and so on. 3/5 would be okay. I rated 5/5, though.
Boymaster definitely deserves 5/5.
It's not his fault, that it didn't affect you. His speed is superb, packaging is excellent, he's a nice guy and the product is very cheap.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the quality of the speed.. not the rating he gave the vendor. (Except for the 1/5 to GermanExpress)
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Im still waiting on DD super speed ordered week ago uk to uk wish had not bothered having read this
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Yeah, give shit speed a 1 or 2/5...if people quite giving vendors 5/5 just because they got *something* in the mail (even if it's total shit) then maybe these people would stop making bank off of shitty dirt speed that you have to take 500 mg for a 2 hr buzz.
Seriously....this is why so many people got ripped off by der speed doktor for 4 months straight. Everyone who checked the forums would know his "70%" speed was maybe 5% but if you looked solely at his feedback you wouldn't have a clue. Same should happen w/coke reviews too.
You bet your ass someone selling shwag mexican brick weed as $400/oz hydro wouldn't be getting hundreds of 5/5 reviews.
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Yes, too bad redalloverthelandguy flushed everything, he should've put some minilistings for the good stuff he had :)
I've yet to try something that will allow me to type 100 paragraphs in a post (maybe boymaster but I would probably be in a narky mood).
speaking of which..
The Valium I had was sadly a gram of powder - fiddly at the best of time - even more so when you really are not capable of measuring some exact dose on a set of Chinese scales! And to be honest - I've never taken Valium after using speed. I never done that ever when using speed mainly because Valium was not really a drug sold by my hash/weed dealer or anyone apart from those who dealt in prescription drugs.
So rather than complicate things with another drug I have little tolerance for, and being of no state of mind to do anything but seek the sanctuary of bed, I chose to use nothing. Could not smoke weed or even eat some hash.
Not that there will be a next time but, even with no tolerance- 30mg of valium is easy to measure even on a cheap 0.001g scale- it wouldn't be too much of a dose when you're overstimulated and would probably have settled you down. Just for anyone reading. If it was a powder such as etizolam where it's active in 0.5-1mg doses and you only need 2-3mg to help then I can understand as most scales can't measure accurately enough for 1-3 mg. 30mg of valium powder should be easy however and would not be too much with no tolerance- would be enough to bring you down, help your bloodpressure and panicky heartrate and kill anxiety.. thus avoiding the nightmare.
Just so you know, probably wise not to use anymore at a certain age because you need good health / cardio fitness (or a young heart) to sustain strong stimulant use.. but if you do and happen to have a gram of valium powder, it is the salvation.
Still, nobody should ever use amphetamine and not have downers around for crash or potential anxiety attacks. As long as one doesn't binge and get addicted to benzos (benzo withdrawal is worse than any other withdrawal).. but takes a good 2 weeks to get benzo dependency. with etizolam and high doses however you can get a wd from just 5-7 days of high dose aid so. Don't binge! have benzos at hand and know how you react to the benzos pre-hand.
You were not there.
I was NOT in s state to weigh out 30mg, and 30mg might kill me off bro. I have been put to sleep by 2mg like i have stated.
As for flushing the speed, well, I got lots of other drugs to use.
;)
And although some doubt my account I don't really give a fuck or read it really.
Its true - so take it or leave it.
I cannot handle speed. Many people cannot handle it. And yes its more a young persons drug although many older people do use and have a good time.
Mine was 4 hours of joy followed by a nightmare followed by days of feeling like shit.
A mix of things. Dehydration may have been the real cause. Who knows?
I'm not giving more way if your poaching for age.
And I guess BM has the best. 100mg was too much for me. 500mg would have killed me.
Anyone who can always use a set of Chinese scales to measure 30mg has not been that stoned really.
I was in a mess.
But before that would have been great to have as company.
Laters!
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ohnoes123, I think, your vendor ratings on SR are a bit too strict.
Do you expect same quality at a cheap price like at a high one?
You can't rate DD with 1/5. The product arrived, he isn't a scammer, his stuff is very very cheap and so on. 3/5 would be okay. I rated 5/5, though.
Boymaster definitely deserves 5/5.
It's not his fault, that it didn't affect you. His speed is superb, packaging is excellent, he's a nice guy and the product is very cheap.
No. They're not strict.
If I receive a product, use the entire product and do not get high a single time.. How can I possibly give this more than a 1? Am I meant to give 3 /5 for effort? What are you on man.,.. irritating me. This whole site is.. people selling aboslute trash and getting good feedback cause people can't edit their finalizes... I even tried rectal 150mg and all it did was increase my heartrate by 10bpm.. no effects nothing..
So yeah I'm pretty entitled to give the product a 1/5. If it does NOTHING then it's not what I paid for. It's not good speed, it's not even bad speed it's ust.. rubbish. I'm pissed off to be frank.
What's so bad about 4/5 ffs? that is like as high as it goes. I did not enjoy BoyMasters speed but I gave it a 4/5 which is a strong rating. It's a nice stimmy speed with no moodlift, it works for some it didn't work for me.. I could've give n a 2 or a 3.. but I gave a fkn 4 out of 5.. and you're moaning at me?
Get off my case u numpty.. getting pissed of with this site now. People peddling shit and getting high feedback. Feedback system doesn't mean anything, you've got to ask 50 people before you've got an idea..
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Yes, too bad redalloverthelandguy flushed everything, he should've put some minilistings for the good stuff he had :)
I've yet to try something that will allow me to type 100 paragraphs in a post (maybe boymaster but I would probably be in a narky mood).
speaking of which..
The Valium I had was sadly a gram of powder - fiddly at the best of time - even more so when you really are not capable of measuring some exact dose on a set of Chinese scales! And to be honest - I've never taken Valium after using speed. I never done that ever when using speed mainly because Valium was not really a drug sold by my hash/weed dealer or anyone apart from those who dealt in prescription drugs.
So rather than complicate things with another drug I have little tolerance for, and being of no state of mind to do anything but seek the sanctuary of bed, I chose to use nothing. Could not smoke weed or even eat some hash.
Not that there will be a next time but, even with no tolerance- 30mg of valium is easy to measure even on a cheap 0.001g scale- it wouldn't be too much of a dose when you're overstimulated and would probably have settled you down. Just for anyone reading. If it was a powder such as etizolam where it's active in 0.5-1mg doses and you only need 2-3mg to help then I can understand as most scales can't measure accurately enough for 1-3 mg. 30mg of valium powder should be easy however and would not be too much with no tolerance- would be enough to bring you down, help your bloodpressure and panicky heartrate and kill anxiety.. thus avoiding the nightmare.
Just so you know, probably wise not to use anymore at a certain age because you need good health / cardio fitness (or a young heart) to sustain strong stimulant use.. but if you do and happen to have a gram of valium powder, it is the salvation.
Still, nobody should ever use amphetamine and not have downers around for crash or potential anxiety attacks. As long as one doesn't binge and get addicted to benzos (benzo withdrawal is worse than any other withdrawal).. but takes a good 2 weeks to get benzo dependency. with etizolam and high doses however you can get a wd from just 5-7 days of high dose aid so. Don't binge! have benzos at hand and know how you react to the benzos pre-hand.
You were not there.
I was NOT in s state to weigh out 30mg, and 30mg might kill me off bro. I have been put to sleep by 2mg like i have stated.
As for flushing the speed, well, I got lots of other drugs to use.
;)
And although some doubt my account I don't really give a fuck or read it really.
Its true - so take it or leave it.
I cannot handle speed. Many people cannot handle it. And yes its more a young persons drug although many older people do use and have a good time.
Mine was 4 hours of joy followed by a nightmare followed by days of feeling like shit.
A mix of things. Dehydration may have been the real cause. Who knows?
I'm not giving more way if your poaching for age.
And I guess BM has the best. 100mg was too much for me. 500mg would have killed me.
Anyone who can always use a set of Chinese scales to measure 30mg has not been that stoned really.
I was in a mess.
But before that would have been great to have as company.
Laters!
IF you've been around then surely you should know something as simple as setting up an easily accessible doze of benzos so I really have no sympathy for your sitatuon. Not that you were looking for it... but that was just dumb. Furthermore you could've died because you couldn't bring yourself to sit up from bed spend half a minute scaling vallies then suckin the powder down.. done.
I'm glad you didn't die.
but if you're using super potent stimulants and you don't have a downers at hand.. well, you're just asking for death, extreme panic attacks and who knows what deteriation of your cardiovascular health and days knocked off your life.
Anyways, I'll check back in when there's a new vendor. Getting too pissed at being sober after ingesting 860mg of "best base" including shhoving some in my ass for near IV bioavability.
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I am waiting on some stuff from Dmtdoodeelsd still. The stuff is priced high, but the quality seems good based on his 100% rating and all the good feedback he has on his vendor page. I have been waiting since Thursday for the stuff to arrive and it's a domestic order: UK-UK. I'm not sure if this is an unusually long time to wait. It was placed in the "In transit" status on Thursday, but I have been told this doesn't actually mean it's been shipped on that day! )
Well, again with same old problem. Most feedback is FE and nobody comes back to edit. Ther ewas one good review of it but that might be his friend buying from him eh..
Anyways, I was also looking at this as the final lower quantity option.. Please post as soon as you try it! As soon as you open, should be going in ur stomach!
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The stuff from GermanExpress is probably the best I have ever had. My nose isn't nearly as blocked as from any other stuff, no abdominal pain as well, but everything good you expect from speed.
I am doing small amounts daily around around 12 and 2 pm currently too keep on studying for my exams. In the evening its kinda hard to resist taking another dose as the mood goes clearly down. But it works and I can sleep quite well 7-8 hours
have been partying on it once so far, was pretty much dancing for 6-7 hours, drinking water - no need for alcohol or any other stuff :D, but didn't sleep that day at all.
My stuff arrived after 2 days, but it was like 3 weeks ago. Packaging wasn't stealthy at all, but I guess there is no need for it in the same country?
I think especially south european customs are kinda risky these days, as they probably check like everything for money..
Question: How do I actually edit my feedback? I found no option to edit or anything. EDIT: derp just found out
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I hope GE fixes his shit before my vacation.. >:( I need more to feed all my hungry friends.. ::)
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Man I hate reading superb review of GE's stuff, just makes me mad that I should have got it already, but probably won't ever arrive.
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ohnoes123, I think, your vendor ratings on SR are a bit too strict.
Do you expect same quality at a cheap price like at a high one?
You can't rate DD with 1/5. The product arrived, he isn't a scammer, his stuff is very very cheap and so on. 3/5 would be okay. I rated 5/5, though.
Boymaster definitely deserves 5/5.
It's not his fault, that it didn't affect you. His speed is superb, packaging is excellent, he's a nice guy and the product is very cheap.
No. They're not strict.
If I receive a product, use the entire product and do not get high a single time.. How can I possibly give this more than a 1? Am I meant to give 3 /5 for effort? What are you on man.,.. irritating me. This whole site is.. people selling aboslute trash and getting good feedback cause people can't edit their finalizes... I even tried rectal 150mg and all it did was increase my heartrate by 10bpm.. no effects nothing..
So yeah I'm pretty entitled to give the product a 1/5. If it does NOTHING then it's not what I paid for. It's not good speed, it's not even bad speed it's ust.. rubbish. I'm pissed off to be frank.
What's so bad about 4/5 ffs? that is like as high as it goes. I did not enjoy BoyMasters speed but I gave it a 4/5 which is a strong rating. It's a nice stimmy speed with no moodlift, it works for some it didn't work for me.. I could've give n a 2 or a 3.. but I gave a fkn 4 out of 5.. and you're moaning at me?
Get off my case u numpty.. getting pissed of with this site now. People peddling shit and getting high feedback. Feedback system doesn't mean anything, you've got to ask 50 people before you've got an idea..
I have to agree with you there! It is beyond irritating to get someone hyping the product that they are selling to be some super strength 120% pure Amphetamine, Tested, and then receiving something that doesn't even keep you awake.
Don't these vendors test the stuff they are planning on selling? I think it's a bullshit excuse when they say that they received a bad batch. They probably got too greedy when cutting the Amphetamine for a profit and cut it too much. Or they just don't give a fuck because they know they can bend you over and fuck you whilst you deposit more BTC into their account. Just pray to god that the lube on their vendor pages hasn't been watered down. 8)
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Received 10grm of Dmtdoodeelsd paste..took a few more days than expected to arrive.. and took weekend off to roadtest..
def the most expensive and not the strongest, but then again we do have a high tolerance and expectations having been a speed lovers for 25yrs+. We love sex on speed,so go for the horny physical rush and between Me and Mrs caned about 5grms between us(not all at once) from Sat morn to Sunday.Got us both tweaking and Partied/fucked/partied etc... for 24hrs+.... had to have a lay down for most of Monday..
3.5/5 for quality and 4/5 for fuckability..Fun time and will prob order again when my regular source is out..
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Lol 1 day with 10 grams.. Yeah sure.. great stuff :D ::)
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Didn't do the whole 10 !!!!..2 people..24hrs 2.5grms each =5. And we always bomb 0.5..It's a fuck of a rush. Not great stuff but def not shite.. :-0
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Hey guys, chill out.
I'm NOT looking for sympathy - I've moved on - and as for people informing about having Valium there in advance, bear in mind I NEVER used any benzos when I was a regular speed user in the days when good speed cost £10 a gram and a half ounce for £80.
Never used Valium because I never wanted to sleep. And Valium is not some magic bullet - and anyone who is always sober enough to weigh 2 mg from a 1000mg bag on cheap Chinese scales (only good for weighing weed really) good luck to you.
I was too fucked up to do anything apart from head to bed.
My comments about boy master will have informed people out there.
To the couple who used 5 grams in 24 hr between them, using BMs speed you would be awake for days.
I was never crying for sympathy bro. Just letting people know what happened. At least you got a laugh unlike some of the miserable comments here!
Cheer up!
One day you will take speed and think 'this is the last time'. I used hundreds of times. I got my use out of it. I can move on now. Maybe Modafinil will be good for me!
(another report coming up)
Good luck, stay safe, and dose carefully, wait a while depending on how long and how much you ate. I think I got a delayed hit off the extra 50mg I bombed on top of two 25mg lines.
The 50mg would have been enough. I DID enjoy it.
Laters.
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i did finalize early with two orders from GE. of course no reply or mail.. well, last time i FE ever again.
stuff was great so it's quite a shame.
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I want some speed. I've only done speed like, once in my life. I've got 32$. Who do you recommend? I will be using it for all sorts of shit from studying to partying.
Who has at least decent speed atm? I don't want to spend this money and realize I got caffeine and sugar.
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ordered some of aakoven's speed, and this was my first time with speed. Smells like strong chemicals and burns like hell. First time I used it I had a good "rush" but every time after that its only a buzz for about 30 minutes.
Can anyone report on aakoven's speed? Seems to me it isn't that good......
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If you only get a buzz for 30 minutes then it isn't speed.
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GE's account now not active
muthafucker >:(
Who offers speed international with no FE?
Was considering Discount Drugs , but they dont even have PGP listed on their page ::)
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GE's account now not active
muthafucker >:(
Who offers speed international with no FE?
Was considering Discount Drugs , but they dont even have PGP listed on their page ::)
I think it's starting to get established that Discount Drugs stuff (even his best base) is mediocre at best, and several have claimed it is complete garbage. There isn't anything great right now so I'd hold off unless you want to get over charged for stepped on garbage speed.
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Why the fuck is there no good speed on SR?
Like, you can find almost any drug on here, except good speed. wtf?
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Why the fuck is there no good speed on SR?
Like, you can find almost any drug on here, except good speed. wtf?
Good question! Who knows, but it's been like this since I've been here. Someone promising comes along every once in a while, they get a good rep, then after a month or less they either scam out or their product quality declines very rapidly...and the amph pill prices are fucking insae so that probably plays a factor as well.
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Vat zee hell iiz going on?
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Shit.
Shoulda opened up a vendors account and sold boymasters speed as 100% from the lab pure as the driven snow speed.
Call it super amp and sell it maybe 50mg for 2.5 BTC.
Mix it with the AA speed (awful) DD speed (smelt 'right' but never used) speed doktors 5 gram sleepy powder and I guess I had 5 grams or so all in all but boy masters WAS speed and I think a few here can confirm it.
Thing is I keep wondering is it the speed dok slipping in from time to time, as if the football is not enough.
So, maybe some pharm speed may be better, and more reliable for now.
I spent enough sampling speed that I could have got a gram of coke.
Found a great one and got hit badly after four hours of the good old days.
Not the speed, my tolerance has gone and cannot handle it any more. Took a week to recover!
Now that is speed!
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dmtdoodeelsd are ok. Speed is above average, if a little expensive (had better for less £) weights are spot on.
Most speed is a bit inconsistant if its paste, even from the same batch. It's all down to how well its been mixed up in the bath.lol. and it doesn't take long to build up a tolerance. It's been a long time since just a couple of lines hit the spot from UK speed. I'll always go for a pea sized bomb...if that doesn't work it is shit !!!
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@redalloverthelandguyhere
don't be defensive. and you're not measuring up 2mg.. I quite clearly said you need 30mg which is easy to measure on a crappy scales. You can give me negative karma all you like for offering solid advice not only to you but everyone who reads. What you did was stupid. For all your experience you seem to know little about harm reduction and safe drug use.
Benzos ARE indeed a magic bullet when you have done too much of a stim. It can slow your blood pressure and stop you from having a heart attack.
I'm simply giving harm reduction advice. Don't do stims without benzos around, it's russian roulette. For everyone to read.
Everytime I read someone sayign "amagawd I couldn't sleeep for 10 hours".... why would you not spend $10 on a few benzos? would you rather your heart use up it's predetermined heartbeats as you lay there in a crash state.. or take a pill that settles your nervous system down, saves your cardio health and allows you to sleep?
You can order benzo pills right here on SR.
the last thing I want is someone overdosing on shit they bought on SR... and authorities sniffing around wondering where the stuff came from.
I'll cheer up once people start shifting good product here and users start using shit responsibly.
I've got a lot of projects coming up, I need some damn decent speed so I can keeps up with my work! :)
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ordered some of aakoven's speed, and this was my first time with speed. Smells like strong chemicals and burns like hell. First time I used it I had a good "rush" but every time after that its only a buzz for about 30 minutes.
Can anyone report on aakoven's speed? Seems to me it isn't that good......
Everyone reports his "speed" as total shit. few pages back someone sent it for analysis and there were just trace amonts of amphetamine and like 66% caffeine..
a 30 minute buzz sounds like a caffeine buzz.. and trust me, if you have good speed it won't be a little buzz. you'll be tweaked .. your dick will shrink and your pupils might dilate a bit.
aakoven sells caffeine masqueraded as speed so he can go fuck himself for all I care. scamming twat.
NO ONE buy his crap.
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What's about DD and Amsterdope ?
Do they sell good speed / amphetamin ? ( 50+%)
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DD stuff shit ,here we are back to no good vendors .Just feel for guys ge has bumped scammin cunt .Surely some one can get good phet .
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All hope on BoyMaster now :P
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DD stuff shit ,here we are back to no good vendors .Just feel for guys ge has bumped scammin cunt .Surely some one can get good phet .
Have you tried Amsterdope's?
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Anyone try UnderGroundSyndicate?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b8cd2f124
Listed @ 22.00 a gram domestic
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Is the amphi from Aakoven and Amsterdope good quality?
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Is the amphi from Aakoven and Amsterdope good quality?
Nope. As others have said: There isn't a single listing for GOOD (or even above average) speed on SR at the present time, I would avoid buying any until the market improves.
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The thing about comparing speed is that it is almost 95% subjective; with way too many variables to make one persons opinion any more valid than another...
who knows whether you guys are all conducting your 'tests' under exactly the same control conditions.? I am betting dollar to doughnut that you are not. To be fair, it would be virtually impossible to do so...
what other drugs/alcohol has been consumed?
how much sleep you've had? when was the last time? how many hours?
have you eaten? when was the last time? what did you eat?
what mood are you in?
are you weighing the dose?
how has it been stored? (both by vendor and buyer)
how long was it is transit?
etc etc...
obviously all these things will effect the product and the affect it has on the subject, and even after that, it is STILL ALL DOWN TO OPINION..!
I can't comment on anyone elses product, but what i can say is that ours is direct from one of our favoured importers, it is stored strictly in the freezer and only gets removed to be transited to the buyer. It is double or triple bagged (with a layer to disguise smell!) and then dispatched immediately...
some buyers have even told us it was still cold upon receipt ;-)
all i can say is that we have sold enough of this and had enough feedback from people for us to reload and keep stocking this product, so one or two peoples opinions on the forums, IMO, does not override the hundreds of happy customers we have had!!
In that regard we are considering doing a sampler pack listing of our products, any suggestions..??
peace out xx 8) 8) 8) 8)
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The thing about comparing speed is that it is almost 95% subjective; with way too many variables to make one persons opinion any more valid than another...
I think the quality of speed is pretty easy to figure out, and this judgement on quality works more or less for everyone. Quite straightforward effect, unlike psychedelics. A moderate speed user always knows her dose and can make conclusions based on that.
EDIT: typo
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The thing about comparing speed is that it is almost 95% subjective; with way too many variables to make one persons opinion any more valid than another...
who knows whether you guys are all conducting your 'tests' under exactly the same control conditions.? I am betting dollar to doughnut that you are not. To be fair, it would be virtually impossible to do so...
what other drugs/alcohol has been consumed?
how much sleep you've had? when was the last time? how many hours?
have you eaten? when was the last time? what did you eat?
what mood are you in?
are you weighing the dose?
how has it been stored? (both by vendor and buyer)
how long was it is transit?
etc etc...
obviously all these things will effect the product and the affect it has on the subject, and even after that, it is STILL ALL DOWN TO OPINION..!
I can't comment on anyone elses product, but what i can say is that ours is direct from one of our favoured importers, it is stored strictly in the freezer and only gets removed to be transited to the buyer. It is double or triple bagged (with a layer to disguise smell!) and then dispatched immediately...
some buyers have even told us it was still cold upon receipt ;-)
all i can say is that we have sold enough of this and had enough feedback from people for us to reload and keep stocking this product, so one or two peoples opinions on the forums, IMO, does not override the hundreds of happy customers we have had!!
In that regard we are considering doing a sampler pack listing of our products, any suggestions..??
peace out xx 8) 8) 8) 8)
I would try you product if you sold a decent single/double dose for around 1 or 2 BTC to see if it's any good. I agree about all the factors involved, but if you do 150-200 of any real speed you should be amped up for at least a few hours, whether or not you have a tolerance or other affecting factors.
The thing about judging SR account feedback is that 95% of people just finalize early or finalize when they get the package before trying, so for me one or in-depth reviews from people who are actually active in the forums speaks louder than 50 generic 5/5 feedbacks on a sellers account. Der Speed Dok sold what was probably less than 5% speed and I was amazed at how many idiots left 5/5 for his stuff...over 90% did even in his last month when his product was probably nearly all caffeine or other junk.
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Proof is in the puddin ,why not give out 5 samples of what you call good quality to people on her who use .If your stuff good you make a killin ?
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Proof is in the puddin ,why not give out 5 samples of what you call good quality to people on her who use .If your stuff good you make a killin ?
This. And ship it worldwide!
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Proof is in the puddin ,why not give out 5 samples of what you call good quality to people on her who use .If your stuff good you make a killin ?
Well obviously no one is going to send out bunk shit in their samples, all that proves is that they have 5 samples worth of legit speed. I'm pretty sure DD's best base samples were far different then the product they started selling as soon as they got a couple good reviews.
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Mate am not thick yeh they could send out 5 good samps for feedback .Then shit wat happens there sales slow down or stop ,so to me the seller loser in the end common biz sense customer satisfaction .
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In that regard we are considering doing a sampler pack listing of our products, any suggestions..??
I'd be willing to sample the stuff and confirm the quality. Plenty of speed experience to tell if it's good or not, no matter how much I ate or slept and all that :P
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Yeh maybe newbie but still know good fast ide be up for samp ,vendor comes up with decent quality stuff so come on fuckin do it . :)
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Anyone try UnderGroundSyndicate?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b8cd2f124
Listed @ 22.00 a gram domestic
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I put an order in, I'll keep you all updated.
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Anyone try UnderGroundSyndicate?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b8cd2f124
Listed @ 22.00 a gram domestic
I have some on the way as well. Good chance I'll have it tomorrow. I'll post my review asap.
I hope it's good and that he keeps it in stock...It looks like he's sold a metric shit-ton since listing it roughly 48 hrs ago ( Was ~ 50 grams, now ~20)...
Who says there isn't a HUGE demand for domestic speed? lol
I hope this marks the end of an era for $30 Adderall pills on SR and meth as the only feasible alternative.
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i really hope that Boymaster is coming back - i had the "luck" and got somthing from GermanExpress for a while.. you guys know how good that stuff was and how that guy turned out... anyways.. anyone knows something about GermanSupplier's stuff? Sounds quite a bit sketchy to me if i compare GermanExpress and GermanySupplier but anyways...
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Anyone try UnderGroundSyndicate?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b8cd2f124
Listed @ 22.00 a gram domestic
I have some on the way as well. Good chance I'll have it tomorrow. I'll post my review asap.
I hope it's good and that he keeps it in stock...It looks like he's sold a metric shit-ton since listing it roughly 48 hrs ago ( Was ~ 50 grams, now ~20)...
Who says there isn't a HUGE demand for domestic speed? lol
I hope this marks the end of an era for $30 Adderall pills on SR and meth as the only feasible alternative.
Yeah I know right -- I spent 20 fucking dollars on 40mg of Adderall IR a week ago and I feel so fiscally dirty. I've been REALLY tempted to go ahead and pick up a gram of this just for the cost and UGS is legit with everything else and I know that it is gonna go fast (pun) but I only got a few BTC's and I need some benzos too for bedtime if the stims are top notch if you know what I mean.
Def let us know if its worth -- I mean shit 22 a gram, if it just gave you explosive diarrhea it be almost worth it.
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I mean shit 22 a gram, if it just gave you explosive diarrhea it be almost worth it.
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lol...gave me a good chuckle there.
I'm actually looking forward to a long overdue amphetamine shit. Amphetamine + high fiber diet = digestive win.
I hear you on the benzos... with adderall at least, beer (+/- weed) seems to suffice for me. Khava seems to work well too.
Nothing quite like benzos though. I've noticed more benzo powders being listed lately. Very economical if you can afford to buy in bulk. I'm hoping the trend grows. Maybe it'll even drive the prices down in the future.
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what other drugs/alcohol has been consumed?
how much sleep you've had? when was the last time? how many hours?
have you eaten? when was the last time? what did you eat?
what mood are you in?
are you weighing the dose?
how has it been stored? (both by vendor and buyer)
how long was it is transit?
etc etc...
In that regard we are considering doing a sampler pack listing of our products, any suggestions..??
peace out xx 8) 8) 8) 8)
I'm not a junkie. I live a healthy lifestyle, use multivitamins, go to the gym. I'm educated on everything that involves amphetamines. I don't consume it without having good sleep (in fact I sleep 8 hours a night) and decent meal earlier in the day before. If I use orally I don't take it for about 2 hours after eating for an empty stomach. I've used all ROA's excluding IV (I use liquid solution with oral syringe for rectal admin which is almost same bioavailibilty as IV).. but I prefer ot just take it orally, in which case I will use a bit of baking soda to increase absorption.
Trust me, I can tell shit speed from bad speed and I've had it with vendors who come up with the most ridiculous of excuses such as "it only works if you IV !!".. Mood means fuck all when you've taken 300mg of amphetamine and it doesn't have any peripheral effects whatsoever, then it's just shit speed. I could even negate most of the factors you mention and still know if it's crap.
It's amphetamine, it's not mushrooms or MDMA. I have a 0.001g scale and I measure doses precisely. Amphetamine has been around and used so often it's a pretty exact science by now. It's the most reliable drug there is IF IT'S POTENT and not cut to shit.
They give dextroamphetamine to military pilots who've been staying awake for 24 hours to go on extra sorties so sleep doesn't fucking matter to feel effects.
Put up a 1 gram listing at a fair price and stop with the cost effective bollox. You're making a profit regardless and unless you're selling garbage people will order larger quantities from you later.
If you sell rubbish then bye bye. One of the possible reasons you would say it's not cost effective is that you sell bad quality amphetamine and you won't get repeat customers so,.. you'd rather make 7.5 bc on a listing than 3.xx. Either listen to the buyer base or perish.
(if you put a gram for higher than 3.xx we know what you're all about)
You've to understand that most people who've the nous to get onto silk road are not some dumbfuck street junkies you can push crap to.
That said I might order too from this american fella or I'll wait for whoever put in an order there. If he sells good stuff then you just got outsmarted dmtdoodels.. because he put a 1gram listing (for cheaper than you sell your stuff).. if his stuff is potent then he's gonna have all of your potential business.
Done explaining shit now. I should just get back in business and do shit the right way.
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what other drugs/alcohol has been consumed?
how much sleep you've had? when was the last time? how many hours?
have you eaten? when was the last time? what did you eat?
what mood are you in?
are you weighing the dose?
how has it been stored? (both by vendor and buyer)
how long was it is transit?
etc etc...
In that regard we are considering doing a sampler pack listing of our products, any suggestions..??
peace out xx 8) 8) 8) 8)
I'm not a junkie. I live a healthy lifestyle, use multivitamins, go to the gym. I'm educated on everything that involves amphetamines. I don't consume it without having good sleep (in fact I sleep 8 hours a night) and decent meal earlier in the day before. If I use orally I don't take it for about 2 hours after eating for an empty stomach. I've used all ROA's excluding IV (I use liquid solution with oral syringe for rectal admin which is almost same bioavailibilty as IV).. but I prefer ot just take it orally, in which case I will use a bit of baking soda to increase absorption.
Trust me, I can tell shit speed from bad speed and I've had it with vendors who come up with the most ridiculous of excuses such as "it only works if you IV !!".. Mood means fuck all when you've taken 300mg of amphetamine and it doesn't have any peripheral effects whatsoever, then it's just shit speed. I could even negate most of the factors you mention and still know if it's crap.
It's amphetamine, it's not mushrooms or MDMA. I have a 0.001g scale and I measure doses precisely. Amphetamine has been around and used so often it's a pretty exact science by now. It's the most reliable drug there is IF IT'S POTENT and not cut to shit.
They give dextroamphetamine to military pilots who've been staying awake for 24 hours to go on extra sorties so sleep doesn't fucking matter to feel effects.
Put up a 1 gram listing at a fair price and stop with the cost effective bollox. You're making a profit regardless and unless you're selling garbage people will order larger quantities from you later.
If you sell rubbish then bye bye. One of the possible reasons you would say it's not cost effective is that you sell bad quality amphetamine and you won't get repeat customers so,.. you'd rather make 7.5 bc on a listing than 3.xx. Either listen to the buyer base or perish.
(if you put a gram for higher than 3.xx we know what you're all about)
You've to understand that most people who've the nous to get onto silk road are not some dumbfuck street junkies you can push crap to.
That said I might order too from this american fella or I'll wait for whoever put in an order there. If he sells good stuff then you just got outsmarted dmtdoodels.. because he put a 1gram listing (for cheaper than you sell your stuff).. if his stuff is potent then he's gonna have all of your potential business.
Done explaining shit now. I should just get back in business and do shit the right way.
haha, exactly. +1
speed experience is "subjective" about the same way that alcohol is...probably even less so. never drank a liter of vodka and not got tanked, sure as hell can't snort a few lines of good speed and not feel it because im not in the right mood or whatever. that's total bs.
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already ordered a g of speed from UGS fellas
ill report back when it arrives! fingers crossed this one will be legit
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DiscountDrugs said he'd reship half a gram of the best base saying that "it must either be my physical biology, or they had times when their speed lost potency due to sitting out /becoming destabilized.." I don't know. BOth sound like bollox but I said fine, send a 50% of my order.
This is the state of it all... These are people who have plenty of feedback- once more proving that feedback means fuck all and you've got to come to the forums and really read peoples opionion.. "5/5 HAD TO FE" .. seriously, stop being retards and giving 5/5 when you FE.
aakoven (please gtfo the speed listings already, you're a fkn scammer selling caffeine as speed and it's ridiculous. if this was the streets you'd been kneecapped)
jerugenengun did the honourable thing and fucked up with his junk
imprint and his shit speed is gone too
DiscountDrugs... <1% amphetamine because going through 860mg (which I received instead of 1100mg) when I have absolutely 0 stim tolerance and not feeling a single thing... well that speaks for itself. Whether he had a bad batch or not.. I did not get what I paid for thus I feel ripped off.
GermanExpress: sold decent speed apparantly. who knows what happens, clearly a junkie who lost his supplier and decided to scam teh fuck out of everyone for large orders then vanish... that or he got busted and went into jail.. but FE from trusted customers was dodgy so more likely gone with the scam.
Had it with these motherfuckers.. BOOSH.
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Hey guys, I really want to get my hands on some decent speed.
Has anyone tried Amsterdope's? I messaged him and he claimed, that this batch is of excellent quality.
Maybe it's worth a try?! Some feedback would be nice!
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Ordered from Amsterdope. Hoping it will be good, he has good reviews all around.
Also ordered from DMTdoodeeLSD. He's got good reviews, wants FE tho, and I'm not about to do that coz of my misadventures with GE and a month ago with Noriega. At least with GE I got my money back.
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Ordered from Amsterdope. Hoping it will be good, he has good reviews all around.
Also ordered from DMTdoodeeLSD. He's got good reviews, wants FE tho, and I'm not about to do that coz of my misadventures with GE and a month ago with Noriega. At least with GE I got my money back.
I lost about 100€ by finalizing early GE-son of a bitch.....
Last but not least, I got shitty speed from SR a few times :/
When do you expect your order, to give us a review? Coz I think about getting some BTC these days, to purchase it next week.
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Anyone try UnderGroundSyndicate?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b8cd2f124
Listed @ 22.00 a gram domestic
I wonder if the UGS listing is a resell of BoyMasters gear? UGS claims it's imported from Spain, and it's the same colour as the stuff BM was selling. In that case, congratulations people of the US :).
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Anyone try UnderGroundSyndicate?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b8cd2f124
Listed @ 22.00 a gram domestic
I wonder if the UGS listing is a resell of BoyMasters gear? UGS claims it's imported from Spain, and it's the same colour as the stuff BM was selling. In that case, congratulations people of the US :).
My thoughts exactly ;)
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ordered twice from amsterdope in spring:
first time was 1g yellowish speed, with whom I was quite satisfied with, considering the price.
second time it was 5g white speed with a strong taste, but it wasn't as potent as the yellow stuff.
So I would be interested in the color if you guys get something.
PS: I hope no one ordered from GE, because of my review :(
EDIT: Forgot to add his packaging was really back then!
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UGS only ships to USA so everyone outside will have to sit around with their dicks in their hands for a while longer :)
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Trust me, I can tell shit speed from bad speed and I've had it with vendors who come up with the most ridiculous of excuses such as "it only works if you IV !!".. Mood means fuck all when you've taken 300mg of amphetamine and it doesn't have any peripheral effects whatsoever, then it's just shit speed. I could even negate most of the factors you mention and still know if it's crap.
It's amphetamine, it's not mushrooms or MDMA. I have a 0.001g scale and I measure doses precisely. Amphetamine has been around and used so often it's a pretty exact science by now. It's the most reliable drug there is IF IT'S POTENT and not cut to shit.
+1. I've done phet drunk, and while slightly different due to being unable to weigh, it's been the same. Whenever I've done it sober, it's been the same. One of the least subjective drugs on the planet.
I don't want to be rude dmt, but that was a bit of a bollocksy post - especially the freezer part. It's been mentioned a shitload of times that any moisture is just solvent leftover. Amphetamine sulphate is a stable salt and it doesn't really matter how it's stored.
I've never tried your phet so can't weigh in. I did buy some 2cb from you once though and that was very nice :)
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OK guys (inc ohnoes123!!) i am in a profoundly altrustic mood at the moment ;-) i have decided to send out a few FREE 1g samples of our speed jus to spread abit of free love down the Road...!!
we will send out FOC samples of our speed to any ACTIVE forum users, as you guys tongues seem to be wagging enough WITHOUT any amphet TBH!!!! heheehhh
so who wants a free 1g sampler..??
Yes yes, i know ohnoes123, if you want one ,you got it mate - further to our PM man, i jus couldn't be bothered to do an unnecessary listing... (without sounding arrogant we are selling enough 2g, and we are getting even more REPEAT orders from the original 2g guys coming bk for 5 or 10 packs.. - so thanx for the ) , i'll jus sprinkle a few FOC samples to active forum members, or any genuine seeming members who seem to know what they are talking about ...
soooooo........ any takers...??!!
apply within :-* :-* :-* :-*
peas and gravy xx
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@raven
we have dispatched now bro...
please finalize upon reciept,
WE DO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR PRODUCT
Drs orders:- "take 200-300mg of this, and call me in the morning"
hmmmm.... an interesting public experiment ;-) ;-)
peace and discourse xx
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Holy crap.
There aren't any even vaguely probable speed dealers on the SR.
Don't buy UK speed. Just don't, its a total waste of time unless you know the dealer personally and can try before you buy, your getting ephedrine/caffeine/WhoKnows.
I await someone 1/2 decent turning up.
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OK guys (inc ohnoes123!!) i am in a profoundly altrustic mood at the moment ;-) i have decided to send out a few FREE 1g samples of our speed jus to spread abit of free love down the Road...!!
we will send out FOC samples of our speed to any ACTIVE forum users, as you guys tongues seem to be wagging enough WITHOUT any amphet TBH!!!! heheehhh
so who wants a free 1g sampler..??
Yes yes, i know ohnoes123, if you want one ,you got it mate - further to our PM man, i jus couldn't be bothered to do an unnecessary listing... (without sounding arrogant we are selling enough 2g, and we are getting even more REPEAT orders from the original 2g guys coming bk for 5 or 10 packs.. - so thanx for the ) , i'll jus sprinkle a few FOC samples to active forum members, or any genuine seeming members who seem to know what they are talking about ...
soooooo........ any takers...??!!
apply within :-* :-* :-* :-*
peas and gravy xx
Well if you offering! If its 1/2 decent you may well get more business as your UK.
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@raven
we have dispatched now bro...
please finalize upon reciept,
WE DO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR PRODUCT
Drs orders:- "take 200-300mg of this, and call me in the morning"
hmmmm.... an interesting public experiment ;-) ;-)
peace and discourse xx
I don't understand why you call your speed base, base is a fluid volatile oil at room temperature and your picture doesn't look this. :o
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I think acid sulfur is the common way, so you get amphetaminsulfat which is a salt. But I am far away from being a chemist ;D
And the wet part of the paste are mostly solvents and/or water I think..
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Never ordered Speed from SR yet though looking to make a first purchase.
Anyone have feedback on quality from AspirantCooper ?
Otherwise any recent experience with quality from AAKoven?
Only looking for a small amount and these vendors offer small quantities, i'm not expecting the best thing ever but just wanna make sure it is at least a little above average. ;)
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AspirantCooper's prices are insane. I never buy less than 10g and that would add up to 97.72BTC if I were to buy it from AC. I reckon I'd be better off purchasing 2-FA from googleyed at ~26BTC per 10g instead; even if AC's product is the shiznit I'm sure a decent batch of 2-FA will do the trick just as well.
Too bad googleyed ships from China. And that 2-FA messes with my circulation in an uncomfortable way. Pah! Bring back quality amphetamine at affordable prices, please.
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soooooo........ any takers...??!!
apply within :-* :-* :-* :-*
Sign me up mate, think I qualify enough :P
I really need some decent speed for the summer, my nose and friends are craving for more :D
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Otherwise any recent experience with quality from AAKoven?
Yes, I ordered. I can't say it's fake, b/c maybe there's like 0.1% amph in it (not more!), but it's definitely a waste of money. Don't buy.
I ordered from AspirantCooper! :D
This is exactly my sort of thing. I don't believe a single word of the product description (no offense AC!) but I'll be happily proven wrong and I'll report my findings.
The price is insane indeed. One of the reasons I ordered, it's so crazy it might be real. And I believe most of you don't even have the slightest idea how far off the percentages (even GE) the vendors give really are. haha. ;D
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Damn 11btc for a gram... crazy :P I'll wait for you guys to try it first ::)
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Care to elaborate a bit on the (2,3,4)-Fluor(meth)amphetamine stuff?! I haven't heard much about those and my experience with RCs isn't that great. Also that stuff should be not illegal in most of EU, so why buy here? And why the relatively unknown (2,3,4)-F(M)A and not 4-MAR (which i would buy instantly).
I don't know much about the other fluorinated amphetamines, although I have tried 4-FMA once. It has more of a serotonergic effect than 2-FA, which acts almost exclusively on dopamine. 2-FA really works like a charm for studying. In my experience it has more in common with dextroamphetamine than with regular street speed; shorter duration, more focus but less energy, etc. It's a bit heavy on the heart (due to vasoconstriction). From what I've heard, 3-FA is also very nice.
I have no experience with 4-MAR, but I too would like to try it. It's not as easily available though.
It's not illegal in the EU (as far as I know) but ordering it straight from China through googleyed costs around 30% of buying it locally. I would be willing to pay the same price per gram for 2-FA as for regular amphetamine, but I refuse to pay more than that. Perhaps some enterprising soul should order some 2-FA (or 3-FA) bulk and resell in the EU? I'm sure it would sell very well during times of amphetamine drought.
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RC's can be bought here http://www.magic-herbs.co.uk/research-chemicals.html/ but personally I leave the researching to other guys
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Ordered from Amsterdope. Hoping it will be good, he has good reviews all around.
Also ordered from DMTdoodeeLSD. He's got good reviews, wants FE tho, and I'm not about to do that coz of my misadventures with GE and a month ago with Noriega. At least with GE I got my money back.
good guy! please report back! some photos of the stuff would also be really nice. :)
I just received Amsterdope's amph. It arrived 3 days after being shipped, the weight was exactly as listed (dry).
A little backstory to know before I review.
The USER is a female teen, whose only had limited exp with speed, only AspirantCooper's stuff. Been on a 1 week t break until Wed, usually take 40mg once a day and that usually gets my heart beating fast and get that constant adrenaline for about 6-7 hours and on good days, tweak for anywhere from 8-14 hours. 50mg is already too much for me.
Don't do any other drugs with any sort of regularity except weed and then only sometimes.
Today I took the last 5mg I had leftover from AC, which got me more spun than I expected for such a little amount.
So my reference point is AspirantCooper's supposedly 98% pure speed.
-Amsterdope's packaging was really good, have read complaints before about it but I saw no problem.
-The smell was super strong and fishy like Müslix said it was supposed to be. In comparison, is AC's more odorless.
-The taste was really bad, like gross. Like fishy. In the meantime I got used to the taste of AC's which tasted more 'chemical' (I sorta like the taste of AC's now) :/
-I sniffed 35mg 4 hours ago at the time of writing. Definitely comparable to AC's in terms of effects.
-Got my heart beating fast enough, satisfied me. Made me motivated, got me in a good mood, sociable, etc.
-The only difference is that what I noticed with AC's is that usually when I stopped rushing everything and sit or lay down to relax I'd notice this nice sorta cold feeling in my lower back/spine, like a constant 6 hour adrenaline rush. While this effect is still very noticeable with Amsterdope's, it is ever so slightly less. Just a tiny amount. When the rest of my stash dried I crushed the big parts with the back of a pen and licked it afterward. That was about 5min ago. Right now, I can barely tell the only difference between Amsterdope's and AC's of slightly more euphoria and adrenaline. I recommend just taking a little more with Amsterdope's
-Nice rushing feeling, which I love. After doing AC's everyday almost the speedy rush was like noticeable, or maybe it was because I was taking too little?
-For the quality and price this is a really good deal
So I'd give Amsterdope a rating of about 9.8/10. Would definitely recommend. Unfortunately I saw this morning he doesn't have any listings anymore at the moment.
So it's up to DMTdoodeeLSD and AspirantCooper now.
I'm going to review DMT's as soon as I get it, and if I notice any difference of effects when I do Amsterdope's again tm I'll let you boys know. :3
I also want to order from AC again while I still have the chance, but I'm about a bitcoin short.
More personal comments about speed:
Again, please remember I do only have limited experience with amph. And today is just too hot for amph, I just want to stay inside all day, was sweating like crazy. I do keep the dose low and rarely if never redose, and then redose with about 10mg, and only I did less before. 50mg is too much for me, I can barely handle it with tolerance, once I did it right after a t break and I had a really bad trip, freaked out.
Someone recommended baking soda beforehand but all that does is make it mellower and last longer (which I don't like, I want speed for doing everything a million km/h) and make the digestive effects worse
Once I ate a kitkat and sniffed 5min later and the high was more intense than usual? Or one time I ate a sandwhich an hour later and then another like 5 hours later and I was spun for more than 14 hours.
But eating sandwhiches 5min before sniffing I noticed the high was less noticeable :[
Speed helps me get all the work done I'm usually too lazy for, and it puts me in a good mood. I don't want to say euphoria because it definitely doesn't make me feel as good as ecstasy or anything, but it makes my depression go away.
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Really pissed about GE going AWOL was waiting on an order for two weeks ago. Dude had even told me he had already posted it and was really nice/genuine sounding in pms.
Waited for over a year for good speed to come up on SR :'(
Hopefully boymaster can come back soon with the goods.
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Otherwise any recent experience with quality from AAKoven?
Yes, I ordered. I can't say it's fake, b/c maybe there's like 0.1% amph in it (not more!), but it's definitely a waste of money. Don't buy.
I ordered from AspirantCooper! :D
This is exactly my sort of thing. I don't believe a single word of the product description (no offense AC!) but I'll be happily proven wrong and I'll report my findings.
The price is insane indeed. One of the reasons I ordered, it's so crazy it might be real. And I believe most of you don't even have the slightest idea how far off the percentages (even GE) the vendors give really are. haha. ;D
Shit OK thanx man, perhaps i skip aakoven.
As i said i'm only after a small personal amount so maybe i just pay the price and try a half g from AspirantCooper.
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Oh yeah, ill really feel those insults when im driving my new lambo boy ;) that reply from super trips wen told him stuff not phet and should remove listing .PRICK .
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boymaster is back.. just sayin'
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boymaster is back.. just sayin'
Don't you guys DARE to order all of those 10g packages before I've had time to get some BTC into my account :)
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Guys, stay away from fluorine amphetamines. They're potentially very neurotoxic:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175262
dmtdoodeelsd, sound man. I will accept your anthrax / hitsquad ;D
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Guys, stay away from fluorine amphetamines. They're potentially very neurotoxic:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175262
dmtdoodeelsd, sound man. I will accept your anthrax / hitsquad ;D
I've followed the discussion about neurotoxicity quite closely, and my personal opinion is that the claims made in that thread are unfounded. There is an excellent thread on bluelight about the same subject.
I'm not saying fluorinated amphetamines are good for you (I suspect there might be some cardiotoxicity lurking in there) but I don't think it's neurotoxic.
edit: Here is the bluelight thread: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/606964-2-FA-3-FA-4-FA-neurotoxicity
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Yea with amsterdope's you definitely need to do an extra 10mg to get the same effects as AC's. Gonna order from boymaster later this afternoon coz apparently everybody loves him. Leave some left over for me :D
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Yea with amsterdope's you definitely need to do an extra 10mg to get the same effects as AC's. Gonna order from boymaster later this afternoon coz apparently everybody loves him. Leave some left over for me :D
While BoyMaster has super potent amphetamine it does not bring a moodlift/sociable element for a couple of us so we're still looking for other options.. but I'd take boymaster over anything else for now... I know muslix and someone else agreed.
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Ya I noticed today with amsterdope's stuff the adrenaline and mood lift is def lower than AC's but at AC's prices for even just one gram, I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to afford it. I do need a larger amount, even if the effects are slightly less pronounced, and amsterdope and boymaster seem to have good quality for a bargain.
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Welcome back BOY MASTER . ::)
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Welcome back BOY MASTER . ::)
where? post the url pls ;D
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Hey guys,
what do you think about letting this thread die and just create a new one with regularly updated infos in the first few posts just like the new coke thead (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=27925.0)?
I would basically create a new thread and all the active members in this one would create a post after my first one, which they could update, because I'm not involved enough to update daily or so.
If there were just one updated post (first one in topic), the whole thing becomes senseless, when the TO stops updating.
Because this topic is just too confusing.
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Welcome back BOY MASTER . ::)
where? post the url pls ;D
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d186a7affd
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There's a new seller from Germany.. He sells 5gram for 8btc, says it's 50%. Might give it a go since it's not that expensive.
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There's a new seller from Germany.. He sells 5gram for 8btc, says it's 50%. Might give it a go since it's not that expensive.
Can't locate him. What's his name?
GermanSupplier (95.3) is the newest speed vendor from Germany I can find.
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There's a new seller from Germany.. He sells 5gram for 8btc, says it's 50%. Might give it a go since it's not that expensive.
Can't locate him. What's his name?
GermanSupplier (95.3) is the newest speed vendor from Germany I can find.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/19b60551bc
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There's a new seller from Germany.. He sells 5gram for 8btc, says it's 50%. Might give it a go since it's not that expensive.
Can't locate him. What's his name?
GermanSupplier (95.3) is the newest speed vendor from Germany I can find.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/19b60551bc
kidding?
has been a member for 3 months
was last seen: today
ranked in the top 97% of sellers with 89.4% positive feedback from 4 transactions
has 11 fans become a fan
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GermanSupplier started listing the time when GermanExpress stopped replying to messages and orders stopped coming. Not pointing fingers, just saying.
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alberthofmann says: "This extremely good speed, not your common street speed.
This is usually cut 1:1 and then sold on the streets." - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/19b60551bc
Hmmm... What other vendor page did i see that on again...
Oh yeah! SuperTrips: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/950847603f
Is there something I'm missing?
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alberthofmann says: "This extremely good speed, not your common street speed.
This is usually cut 1:1 and then sold on the streets." - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/19b60551bc
Hmmm... What other vendor page did i see that on again...
Oh yeah! SuperTrips: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/950847603f
Is there something I'm missing?
They all have a bad rating.
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alberthofmann says: "This extremely good speed, not your common street speed.
This is usually cut 1:1 and then sold on the streets." - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/19b60551bc
Hmmm... What other vendor page did i see that on again...
Oh yeah! SuperTrips: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/950847603f
Is there something I'm missing?
They all have a bad rating.
Just saying... For anyone thinking about buying from this vendor, it seems a bit fishy. :P
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hmm..
AspirantCooper : 1g 76.7 $, purity of 90% , http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/34ddd0deb4
Boymaster : 1g 25.67 $, purity of 70%, http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/2f3a06aec6
the difference between the prices 50 $.
is the difference between 70% and 90% so huge?
is it worth $ 50 to pay more ?
Could you write a short report about those sellers and their products?
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hmm..
AspirantCooper : 1g 76.7 $, purity of 90% , http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/34ddd0deb4
Boymaster : 1g 25.67 $, purity of 70%, http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/2f3a06aec6
the difference between the prices 50 $.
is the difference between 70% and 90% so huge?
is it worth $ 50 to pay more ?
Could you write a short report about those sellers and their products?
It's not worth it, just very overpriced.
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You people need to wake the fuck up.. Actual elite and loyal vendors here dont have this kind of controversy surrounding there names in the forums!!! It blows my mind how he is still referred to as a trusted seller. Just because some idiots received there packages and enjoy getting buttfucked by AA's scams doesnt make him reputable. But i guess when you make everyone FE it is pretty easy to slide by on false accomplishments. Please smarten up people!! Putting 5/5 when you finalize early only targets you for SELECTIVE scammers such as AA, and only encourages vendors like this to make it a policy so that they can easily ship out FAKE product and act like they were none the wiser that there product is pure shitttt, and thats if they even ship your order at all.. If it doesnt arrive, 90% chance they didnt send it at all. And why would they "reship" if they didnt send it the first time. And then your trapped in their 50% Refund bullshit. How do you people explain his enormously higher rate for non received pckges than other NL vendors who use the same mailing system and have 99% delivery rate???
AA is by far the worst vendor I have ever had the misfortune of working with. It doesnt take much searching in the forums to find that AA fails to meet the standards of a Loyal vendor when it comes to PRODUCT, COMMUNICATION, RESOLUTION, or even simple RESPECT. His speed is complete garbage( maybe get 20% actual product if lucky) and his ketamine was a COMPLETE JOKE!! I did my full gram in one night just to see how bullshit it really was, and let me tell you it was pretty clear there was 0% ket in there!!! On top of scamming his costumers by sending them fake product, when confronted with this information he acts like we are high school druggies that wouldnt and couldnt know better. He treats his costumers with blatant disrespect by acting like we are uninformed and dont know anything on the drugs we choose to take. And continues to make an even bigger piece of shit of himself by pretending he doesnt have knowledge of the quality of his own products. He even admits to getting scammed by his dealers!! Which means he was in full knowledge when he passed on the scam to his buyers!!
If ever confronted on any of this nonsense his english returns to a toddler level and you will have no luck getting a reasonable or respecfull response. He is absolutely spineless and spits in all of your faces with with his deceitful bullshit.
BEWARE buyers(especially US) This one is not to be trusted!!
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I bought a 0.5 gramme of phet off AC a while back.
I can't really post a good review, but I can vouch for it's quality - 30mg eaten would have me working all day, and I used most of it for getting an absolutely shitton of studying done.
The last 70mg I snorted which was nice - euphoric sort of phet, no unpleasant comedown or anything.
I can't really say whether it was worth the price to me, but it is definitely the best amphetamine on here
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I bought a 0.5 gramme of phet off AC a while back.
I can't really post a good review, but I can vouch for it's quality - 30mg eaten would have me working all day, and I used most of it for getting an absolutely shitton of studying done.
The last 70mg I snorted which was nice - euphoric sort of phet, no unpleasant comedown or anything.
I can't really say whether it was worth the price to me, but it is definitely the best amphetamine on here
Have you tried BoyMaster's ?
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I bought a 0.5 gramme of phet off AC a while back.
I can't really post a good review, but I can vouch for it's quality - 30mg eaten would have me working all day, and I used most of it for getting an absolutely shitton of studying done.
The last 70mg I snorted which was nice - euphoric sort of phet, no unpleasant comedown or anything.
I can't really say whether it was worth the price to me, but it is definitely the best amphetamine on here
Have you tried BoyMaster's ?
I tried boymaster's. You can definitely buy from him. It's potent stuff.
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AspriantCooper is seriously taking the piss offering phet at 72USD (50 quid) a gram?
Does that have speed cocaine as a cutting agent?
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I bought a 0.5 gramme of phet off AC a while back.
I can't really post a good review, but I can vouch for it's quality - 30mg eaten would have me working all day, and I used most of it for getting an absolutely shitton of studying done.
The last 70mg I snorted which was nice - euphoric sort of phet, no unpleasant comedown or anything.
I can't really say whether it was worth the price to me, but it is definitely the best amphetamine on here
Have you tried BoyMaster's ?
I tried boymaster's. You can definitely buy from him. It's potent stuff.
Can only agree with that, BoyMasters stuff is great :)
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AspriantCooper is seriously taking the piss offering phet at 72USD (50 quid) a gram?
Does that have speed cocaine as a cutting agent?
Made me laugh :D
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Just ordered 5g from BoyMaster, will reply when package arrives even though all his ratings have been supportive.
Can anyone guess if the product is racemic or stereoselective for the dextro enantiomer?
I've heard that it is normal for meth to be d-meth but amphetamine can be either dl-amp or d-amp, I would prefer d-amp as it's stronger and cleaner. It seems very few care about the stereoselectivity or even know such a thing exists.
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Just ordered 5g from BoyMaster, will reply when package arrives even though all his ratings have been supportive.
Can anyone guess if the product is racemic or stereoselective for the dextro enantiomer?
I've heard that it is normal for meth to be d-meth but amphetamine can be either dl-amp or d-amp, I would prefer d-amp as it's stronger and cleaner. It seems very few care about the stereoselectivity or even know such a thing exists.
Speed is commonly 50:50 [and then cut (to hell)].
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hey guys just took the plunge and ordered from that new german guy http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/05a8f09d92 alberthofmann should arrive in few days, will update once arrived
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Can anyone guess if the product is racemic or stereoselective for the dextro enantiomer?
I've heard that it is normal for meth to be d-meth but amphetamine can be either dl-amp or d-amp, I would prefer d-amp as it's stronger and cleaner. It seems very few care about the stereoselectivity or even know such a thing exists.
Nice to see people picking up on the knowledge. Better educated customers identify shitty stuff more easily, good for all of us. I wouldn't consider d-amph "stronger", it is "cleaner" as some of the physical symptoms (jitteryness, insomnia, ...) are attributed to l-amph. Thus Dextro won't last as long, 1g won't keep you up for days like GE's speed did (considering it's given in the same purity).
I am pretty sure most people would prefer speed that's racemic or heavy on the d-side (like adderall) when given the choice, but we don't have that luxury. The only thing we can do is sample stuff and guesstimate what it most likely contains.
Just ordered 5g from BoyMaster, will reply when package arrives even though all his ratings have been supportive.
Can anyone guess if the product is racemic or stereoselective for the dextro enantiomer?
I've heard that it is normal for meth to be d-meth but amphetamine can be either dl-amp or d-amp, I would prefer d-amp as it's stronger and cleaner. It seems very few care about the stereoselectivity or even know such a thing exists.
Speed is commonly 50:50 [and then cut (to hell)].
I've actually heard that a few, pretty simple, industrial routes are selective for the dextro enantiomer. And the half-life between the two isn't THAT different, Wiki states "12h average for d-isomer, 13h for l-isomer". And yes, I would definitely say that d-amp is stronger than l-amp but mostly because of the higher oral bioavailability. It's sad that we can't get information on synthesis route and whether a product is racemic/stereoselective in the age of the Road, guess it will take a few years more when we can produce our drugs in bacteria. Well, carry on.
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AspirantCooper : 1g 76.7 $, purity of 90% , http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/34ddd0deb4
Boymaster : 1g 25.67 $, purity of 70%, http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/2f3a06aec6
Assuming the percentages are correct (which they are probably not, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt) you can calculate the price of a 100% pure product from each vendor. AC: ~84$/g, BM: ~33$/g. AC's prices are off the chart.
Can anyone guess if the product is racemic or stereoselective for the dextro enantiomer?
We discussed this at length a few pages back in the thread. It's almost definitely racemic, since the most common synthesis route (Leuckart reduction from phenylacetone) yields a racemic product. I agree it would be great to know for sure what route has been used in each case, but we can probably assume it's the Leuckart method. Either way, there is simply no reason for a clandestine chemist to remove the levo isomer. The difference in effects from different batches of amphetamine is most likely due to it being cut with different adulterants, some psychoactive and some not, etc.
More fun reading on amphetamine synthesis: http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/amphetamine.reduction.html
Hey guys,
what do you think about letting this thread die and just create a new one with regularly updated infos in the first few posts just like the new coke thead (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=27925.0)?
I would basically create a new thread and all the active members in this one would create a post after my first one, which they could update, because I'm not involved enough to update daily or so.
If there were just one updated post (first one in topic), the whole thing becomes senseless, when the TO stops updating.
Because this topic is just too confusing.
I quite like our rambling thread, with no structure at all and borderline amphetamine psychosis posts every now and then. Makes me feel at home. Only cokeheads would come up with a system like the one you describe! :)
I'll wait for valentinesmith's review on BoyMaster (please make one!).
Sure will!
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I've actually heard that a few, pretty simple, industrial routes are selective for the dextro enantiomer. And the half-life between the two isn't THAT different, Wiki states "12h average for d-isomer, 13h for l-isomer". And yes, I would definitely say that d-amp is stronger than l-amp but mostly because of the higher oral bioavailability. It's sad that we can't get information on synthesis route and whether a product is racemic/stereoselective in the age of the Road, guess it will take a few years more when we can produce our drugs in bacteria. Well, carry on.
Hi everyone, sorry for the delay with everything, we have been so busy, hope that you understand. There has been a lot of work and it's pretty hard to stay on air indefinitely.
Dude, I would love to know that "pretty simple" route lol, every syntheses give the dl-amphetamine racemic mixture. I only know how to separate the two enantiomers from the racemic mixture but it's definitely not worth it, at least for me. Of course the effects are similar but not identical and think that the price of the product would be double, for almost the same effects.
Also I will say that our 70% (ranging 70-80%) purity was stated because it's the highest purity that (we think) has ever reached silk road at a "steady rate", it has nothing to do with business or money, it isn't a secret, I've seen a lot of people overdose because of lack of experience with pure stuff, it's way harder to scale and measure so small amounts of powder and the pure stuff hurts a lot when snorted. The other 30% is an inert and water soluble diluent just like those used in pharmaceutical industry. So the number has similarities because it was stated by us based on the existent market, we do control exactly the purity of the product because we have it pure.
Hope that your questions and thoughts have been resolved, I accept all kind of recommendations, observations and critics.
The listings will not be up for much time because we have a serious lack of product and the demand is so high. But I promise, that we are working on that very hard and in a matter of 2-3 weeks there will be so much that it shouldn't ever end ;D everything is getting scaled up, from the beginning to the end.
My best regards.
BM
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Ahhh I'ma better order quickly :D
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hey,
if we are talking about purity, my product (AC) is 99% pure (checked with TLC). everyone who has access to a lab check please do. I will try to get the details of the lab results but cant guarantee I will so it would be great if someone who is reputable around here can do that kind of test. I am not lying and I am willing to put everything in the gamble that this is the BEST amphetamine sulphate that has ever been here. there is not much of it in my stock, so for those that still have doubts I would advise to check my listings and get some. I dont know if I will be able to get that purity soon or ever. someone should do lab check with boymaster's amph as well. that is the best way to check the product. checking on your own as a lab rat isnt way to go (I am seeing so much lies about products here on the road that my hair get stuned!) this is why I am providing the best product and service for possibly best prices I can. when I see people buying so much caffeine from AA at this price I am getting pissed off >:( people, you can trust only your own judgement or simply lab reults. if someone is selling a lot that doesnt mean his product is a quality one (at least thats how it is on the road :( )
I will repeat that : I AM CONFIDENT THAT MY PRODUCT IS 99% PURE (other products the same), NOT AFFRAID OF THE LAB CHECKS!
so a tip for those that bought from me : please be aware that someone who has big tolerance for amph/meph needed only 60mg to get high, so the mg scale is NEEDED!
thanks,
<AC>
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Yeah but the price is 300% higher... :o
I can sell a pure gram at 5btc on request as I said in my previous post, but I'm pretty sure that the user experience would be worse on the pure stuff.
Best regards
BM 8)
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I know that price is high but its for this quality. I know you will stand your ground and I will stand mine. so someone reputable with lab access should make the tests and take the doubts and child-talks away. I am over 40's now and seen many things before. I am not here to assult you, so please dont make the judgement without a prove ( people loved jurgens stuff while it was cut with meth :o )
I never had and never will lie my customers. those that would be catched on a lie should be banned or sent to siberia with one way ticket ;)
Yeah but the price is 300% higher... :o
I can sell a pure gram at 5btc on request as I said in my previous post, but I'm pretty sure that the user experience would be worse on the pure stuff.
Best regards
BM 8)
why would the experience be worse on the pure stuff :o holy shit, am I the only one who sees some inert booster in your product ? :o
thanks,
<AC>
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Sorry but I don't want to argue with you, the superior quality would be if it was 98-99% d-amphetamine, but that what you sell is almost the same, so overpriced.
It would be nice if someone would be willing to do that analysis and post it (come on, it's free). There should be a "professional checker" ;D looking for the quality of the products.
Best regards
BM
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It seems you are both taking you business seriously. Very nice to see on this part of the road!
BM: If you don't mind me asking, what "inert and water soluble diluent" is it that you use?
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I don't mind, customers should know what they take, the diluent is lactose.
We will post pure amphetamine listings too for the next batch.
My best regards
BM
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I've actually heard that a few, pretty simple, industrial routes are selective for the dextro enantiomer. And the half-life between the two isn't THAT different, Wiki states "12h average for d-isomer, 13h for l-isomer". And yes, I would definitely say that d-amp is stronger than l-amp but mostly because of the higher oral bioavailability. It's sad that we can't get information on synthesis route and whether a product is racemic/stereoselective in the age of the Road, guess it will take a few years more when we can produce our drugs in bacteria. Well, carry on.
Hi everyone, sorry for the delay with everything, we have been so busy, hope that you understand. There has been a lot of work and it's pretty hard to stay on air indefinitely.
Dude, I would love to know that "pretty simple" route lol, every syntheses give the dl-amphetamine racemic mixture. I only know how to separate the two enantiomers from the racemic mixture but it's definitely not worth it, at least for me. Of course the effects are similar but not identical and think that the price of the product would be double, for almost the same effects.
Also I will say that our 70% (ranging 70-80%) purity was stated because it's the highest purity that (we think) has ever reached silk road at a "steady rate", it has nothing to do with business or money, it isn't a secret, I've seen a lot of people overdose because of lack of experience with pure stuff, it's way harder to scale and measure so small amounts of powder and the pure stuff hurts a lot when snorted. The other 30% is an inert and water soluble diluent just like those used in pharmaceutical industry. So the number has similarities because it was stated by us based on the existent market, we do control exactly the purity of the product because we have it pure.
Hope that your questions and thoughts have been resolved, I accept all kind of recommendations, observations and critics.
The listings will not be up for much time because we have a serious lack of product and the demand is so high. But I promise, that we are working on that very hard and in a matter of 2-3 weeks there will be so much that it shouldn't ever end ;D everything is getting scaled up, from the beginning to the end.
My best regards.
BM
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I think I'm in love with you, we need more people like you on the Road!
It isn't something I know of, sadly. Just something I heard through the grapevine.
Btw, you wrote that the dilutent is lactose, I don't mind but some people are intolerant to it.
Might not matter in the low amounts but might be a good idea to change it to something that is better tolerated in the future.
I agree that there is no point in separating the enantiomer, but thanks a lot for informing us that it is indeed the racemic mixture.
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Yeah there's some people intolerant to lactose, but if you look inside, nearly all the medicine pills are diluted with lactose. The quantities are so small that they do no effect.
We have no plans on changing it but maybe if we find something better, anyway the next time you'll be able to buy the pure stuff directly, so you can decide what you want.
Best regards
BM
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Hmm.. think I'll wait till next batch and try the pure stuff :D
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Like I said, as much as I would like AC's really really good stuff, I'm on a budget now. Can't wait to get some of Boymaster's stuff though.
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I wish i would understand something about your stuff boymaster (the stuff is outstanding - no question). While it keeps me working like a train all day long, the "euphoria" is pretty limited. When is take about 90 mg and after half an hour another 80mg (i think one could say i have developed a tiny tolerance ^^) then it hits me and i start noticing the really good mood. But i had much weaker speed and it was much more euphoric.
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Sorry Ct2012 but I don't have a short reply for that question.
The "euphoria" is a very subjective thing, keep in mind that the peak effect begins after 20-30min of snorting. The tolerance also plays a serious role in that effect.
What we call euphoria is the sudden stimulation of a massive number of dopamine receptors, tolerance is the symptom of lost dopamine receptors. The receptors number decrease when there's too much dopamine, and it takes some time of "normal and healthy life" to restore them. If that number is smaller the euphoria will be smaller too because there's less "effective stimulation" in your brain, but, the other effects will be the same both the mild positive and negative. And with increasing the tolerance, the negative effects become bigger and bigger than the positive.
It's way more evident with mdma because serotonin receptor number decrease faster, the first time you take mdma it's incredible, but if you redose or take 1 or 2 days later, there's no euphoria at all, at least not like the first time, but if you wait some weeks, everything restores and you can experience all the euphoria almost like the first time.
Well it's my "easy" explanation for that, nothing special, I can be wrong.
Müslix, I understand your worries but the product will be always the same, never less than 70% and in some weeks a completely pure option. If you look at our prices, they have gone up because of the supply and demand dynamics but the thing hasn't been cut down. There's no point on cutting it if people like it as it is, I prefer the actual status, everyone is happy with the service and I feel welcome here on SR and don't want to lose it. We are here to stay, at least that's the idea.
Best regards
BM
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@Boymaster
Thank you very much for your answer (your English has improved by factor 10 by the way, lol. But i guess you just have found a partner). This explanation is something that i had in mind myself. The thing is, that there have been discussions about d/l-phet and the different effects these two have on body and mind. Those discussions are hard to follow for somebody who doesn't have a certain level of chemical knowledge. That's why i said that i wish i'd understand this. But all those discussions are more or less null when you say, that your product is a racedemic mixture (such easy things i can google and understand ;) ) and there should be the effects someone is used to (including the euphoria). But nevertheless, where transmitters are used and you don't give your body the possibility to rebuild them - there can't be an effect caused by those transmitters - Maybe it's time for a break ^^ (Nah..get it on :D )
Thanks again,
have a nice one.
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I wish i would understand something about your stuff boymaster (the stuff is outstanding - no question). While it keeps me working like a train all day long, the "euphoria" is pretty limited. When is take about 90 mg and after half an hour another 80mg (i think one could say i have developed a tiny tolerance ^^) then it hits me and i start noticing the really good mood. But i had much weaker speed and it was much more euphoric.
tip : someone who has huge tolerance for amph and meph did my amph. 2x30mg made him VERY speedy :) if you took 170 mg then its not 70% for sure. normal recreational dose is 30-50mg of this product (you be extra high). yea, now I can see the point. thanks for saying the dosing, that should made people think about the purity. normally, 200mg of the pure product may cause OD for someone with no tolerance! so everyone, please be look out with my product!
thanks
<AC>
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Hello fellow road runners. Billy isnt my choice of sunshine, but after 2 other purchases my third purchase is outstanding in comparison.
Detail:
dmtdoodeelsd BASE - Speed/Amphet PASTE - 2 GRAMS Fantastically, quick and legit product and service. Looks incrediable. This vendor is one of the rare 'good guys', so deserves the credit!
So my recommendations to the road are......great vendor, good service, fantastic looking, smelling and slightly tried product.....although i haven't fully tested as of yet. Watch the space.
Ta,
_TT
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I have tried both AgentCooper's and BoyMaster's previous batches - AC's speed felt more potent and euphoric than BM's speed. I can't afford to buy at AC's prices, so I'm sticking with BM - his speed is good enough for me and unlike steed speed/speed cut with caffeine it doesn't give me nasty comedowns. So yea, I believe AC's purity claims, but it's too expensive..:/
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the last charge of juergen ´s durch amphetamin paste was very nice
long high, 9 hours with 1g and maby it was subjektiv but i had a pleasent comedown
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Just to be clear about the dose (although i might look like a speedaddict .. lol, fuck it, i am a speedaddict). I've been taking the stuff for about 2 weeks everyday now. On the first 2 days 60 mg made me change into lenny (from over the hedge). I just seem to build up a pretty high tolerance really quick. (And i've been using ephedrine in high doses for about 10 years, everyday, until couple of months - i'm sure there is a cross-tolerance). No - i don't want to think about my heart and stuff ^^ Just wanted to emphasize that i love BMs stuff, less euphoria but energy without end. And i'd love to test your stuff AC.. but i unfortunately can't afford it.
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Is sudo ephedrine still used as active ingredient in phet or is there replacement being used now ?
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"Is sudo ephedrine still used as active ingredient in phet or is there replacement being used now ?"
My god I hope it's not pseudo...the thought of pseudo makes me sick. But so do the other potential candidates out there if I think about it...
By the way... for any potential vendors out there than *can* provide pure speed but *choose* not to...You are completely missing out on an untapped precursor market: Meth is quite easy to make from pure speed (formaldehyde and zinc dust...nearly 100% yield, and due to the methyl group, you end up with more meth by weight than amphetamine precursor).
If you can offer truly pure speed at a respectable price (especially d-amp, but even racemic amp will do!)...you've just tapped into a WHOLE NEW MARKET of buyers who would buy bulk and personal amounts for that purpose (it's one of the easiest synths, amphet being the only difficult ingredient to obtain)... Not mention total domination of the speed market.
If that isn't incentive to start providing top quality stuff, I don't know what is...
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Just thought I'd add a review for my first purchase.
dmtdoodeelsd, 2g, base speed paste. delivery next day, awesome.
Dried it out, evaporating almost 0.5g, and chopped up a matchstick sized line, probably around 50-60mg (my 0.01 scales seem to suck at this weight), to give it a test. It's dried into nice big white chunks, and chops into reasonably fine powder, a bit clumpy and sticky. Thinking I might do 1-2 lines and go to bed before 2am, it's just a test. Product test was complete after line 1, feels nice, burned a little but as expected, nice buzz, and after 5 minutes I'm totally sure this is good quality stuff.
Now decide it's a good idea to test out "I wonder how high I can get", who needs sleep anyway ???
Weighing what I have left, I had snorted 470mg total by 2am. This test was also successful, I had a good buzz going. I don't take any more after this.
By about 6am, I am still as high, or higher, certainly fucked. There has been no come down. I decide to have a bath, and attempt a "pretend" sleep to refresh for the next day. Getting up and walking about, I realise I am totally buzzing off my tits more than I thought (I was just chilling out and playing trance/house loud). Enter bathroom, pupils massive, dick still tiny, can't piss now ouch. Manage a few hours of pretend sleep, which is more of a trance of repeating thoughts, and definitely no sleep, surprisingly 3 hours go by quite quickly. 11am, I'm off into town, I had stuff to do, may as well get on with it. Felt kinda fine, paranoia minimal, still high. Had a walk, sauna and a quick sunbed, that outta make me feel fine. Got an hour sleep at 6pm, went out at 8pm until 1am, wasn't tired at all felt great.
All in all, pretty good quality. I have done UK "base" a load of times, not much recently though. Years ago, and the quality was always pretty solid, this seems just the same, if not better, than the best I've had. I'm sure the effects would be massively amplified if I had been doing anything a bit more involving (dancing, partying, socialising).
I'm not really a one line a day helps get things done person, I was always more of a bomb 1g base (sometimes split in 2 doses) and maybe a few pills and dance / party until morning type. If that helps put things in context.
It's nice to find this place, and useful for me that such forums exist, so I like to contribute what I can.
Keep safe and have fun guys!
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Nice review! +1
And for the low weight on your scale, put a small piece of paper on it so it registers a weight and than add the speed on top of it works just fine :)
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..... of lack of experience with pure stuff, it's way harder to scale and measure so small amounts of powder and the pure stuff hurts a lot when snorted. The other 30% is an inert and water soluble diluent just like those used in pharmaceutical industry.
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This is fine and generally sensible keeping powder to a strength that casually measurable doses can be snorted without putting whoevers snorting them into orbit.
I refer people to MXE, MDPV and the king of the castle, Phenazepam, active at 500 micrograms, 5 times the strength of diazepam, yet available by the gram!
I challenge anyone to eyeball a sensible line.
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Anyone try UnderGroundSyndicate?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b8cd2f124
Listed @ 22.00 a gram domestic
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I put an order in, I'll keep you all updated.
Just received my 10g from UGS. It was dry and looks legit, slightly light brown. After about 4-6 large lines I am feeling good so its not extremely potent, definitely not as potent or euphoric as GermanExpress's stuff but its not bad. Plus being domestic and arriving so fast, I have no complaints!
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"Just received my 10g from UGS. It was dry and looks legit, slightly light brown. After about 4-6 large lines I am feeling good so its not extremely potent, definitely not as potent or euphoric as GermanExpress's stuff but its not bad. Plus being domestic and arriving so fast, I have no complaints!"
Good to hear you got yours. I've been expecting mine since Friday...and I ordered minutes after it went up early last week. Hopefully tomorrow is the day.
Just curious how many mg you believe it took to do the trick. Is your tolerance high?
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"Just received my 10g from UGS. It was dry and looks legit, slightly light brown. After about 4-6 large lines I am feeling good so its not extremely potent, definitely not as potent or euphoric as GermanExpress's stuff but its not bad. Plus being domestic and arriving so fast, I have no complaints!"
Good to hear you got yours. I've been expecting mine since Friday...and I ordered minutes after it went up early last week. Hopefully tomorrow is the day.
Just curious how many mg you believe it took to do the trick. Is your tolerance high?
I had to do about four 3-4 inch lines to feel it and it wasn't extremely strong like I have had before. I have a moderate tolerance but am not a daily user, just some Adderall on and off for the last few weeks and a couple Gs of speed as well. The way this stuff is dried out and doesn't smell strong gives me the feeling it has been stamped on. But again, I am not complaining! Just letting everyone know.
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Hey guys,
Has anyone tried GermanSupplier and his stuff? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/6b4bda9cfe
He offers two different sorts, purple and white. It's pretty low priced - the ratings in his vendor profile are okay - but we all know how realistic they can be..
Cheers,
ct
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"Just received my 10g from UGS. It was dry and looks legit, slightly light brown. After about 4-6 large lines I am feeling good so its not extremely potent, definitely not as potent or euphoric as GermanExpress's stuff but its not bad. Plus being domestic and arriving so fast, I have no complaints!"
Good to hear you got yours. I've been expecting mine since Friday...and I ordered minutes after it went up early last week. Hopefully tomorrow is the day.
Just curious how many mg you believe it took to do the trick. Is your tolerance high?
I had to do about four 3-4 inch lines to feel it and it wasn't extremely strong like I have had before. I have a moderate tolerance but am not a daily user, just some Adderall on and off for the last few weeks and a couple Gs of speed as well. The way this stuff is dried out and doesn't smell strong gives me the feeling it has been stamped on. But again, I am not complaining! Just letting everyone know.
Lol.. 4 3-4inch lines to feel it.. Sounds pretty bunk to me :P
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I had to do about four 3-4 inch lines to feel it and it wasn't extremely strong like I have had before. I have a moderate tolerance but am not a daily user, just some Adderall on and off for the last few weeks and a couple Gs of speed as well. The way this stuff is dried out and doesn't smell strong gives me the feeling it has been stamped on. But again, I am not complaining! Just letting everyone know.
Pure amphetamine sulphate is a "white, odorless crystalline powder with slightly bitter taste" (quote from the Merck Index). If the powder is wet and has a strong smell, it's usually a sign that there are leftover solvents and/or liquid cuts in there.
There are of course fairly potent wet powders (even paste) and there are crap-a-delic dry white powders. My point is, you can't really use look and smell to accurately judge potency.
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Sorry Ct2012 but I don't have a short reply for that question.
The "euphoria" is a very subjective thing, keep in mind that the peak effect begins after 20-30min of snorting. The tolerance also plays a serious role in that effect.
What we call euphoria is the sudden stimulation of a massive number of dopamine receptors, tolerance is the symptom of lost dopamine receptors. The receptors number decrease when there's too much dopamine, and it takes some time of "normal and healthy life" to restore them. If that number is smaller the euphoria will be smaller too because there's less "effective stimulation" in your brain, but, the other effects will be the same both the mild positive and negative. And with increasing the tolerance, the negative effects become bigger and bigger than the positive.
This is correct, but there is not necessarily any decrease in the number of receptors (aka receptor density) but the actual phenomena is called desensitization, downregulation or tachyphylaxis. And how it works is pretty self explanatory at the layman's level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyphylaxis
The best example of this are psychedelics, 5-HT2A agonists for example (most prototypical psychedelics hit this receptor) can take up to two weeks after a single administration before it becomes as potent as it were the first time.
Also, BoyMaster, my order has been "processing" since the night between Sunday and Monday, how long does it usually take to ship out the packages? (I wrote you a message on the actual Road, just reply that you've answered here if you do)
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Also, BoyMaster, my order has been "processing" since the night between Sunday and Monday, how long does it usually take to ship out the packages? (I wrote you a message on the actual Road, just reply that you've answered here if you do)
yeah i´m curious too,had need it this weekend for an festival...last time it needed 2 days to switch in transit
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Sorry for the delay but yesterday was a local holiday about wich I knew nothing, all the orders are being shipped now.
Regards
BM
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Sorry for the delay but yesterday was a local holiday about wich I knew nothing, all the orders are being shipped now.
Regards
BM
You got my order right? I don't want to be impatient, I'm just excited
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Ordered last night, 5G from Boymaster. I will keep you all informed. :)
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Curious for the new batch cause the last one was outstanding :)
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That mine in transit from BOY MASTER ,can almost taste it already ,ha .TOP MAN
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"Just received my 10g from UGS. It was dry and looks legit, slightly light brown. After about 4-6 large lines I am feeling good so its not extremely potent, definitely not as potent or euphoric as GermanExpress's stuff but its not bad. Plus being domestic and arriving so fast, I have no complaints!"
Good to hear you got yours. I've been expecting mine since Friday...and I ordered minutes after it went up early last week. Hopefully tomorrow is the day.
Just curious how many mg you believe it took to do the trick. Is your tolerance high?
I had to do about four 3-4 inch lines to feel it and it wasn't extremely strong like I have had before. I have a moderate tolerance but am not a daily user, just some Adderall on and off for the last few weeks and a couple Gs of speed as well. The way this stuff is dried out and doesn't smell strong gives me the feeling it has been stamped on. But again, I am not complaining! Just letting everyone know.
Lol.. 4 3-4inch lines to feel it.. Sounds pretty bunk to me :P
I would agree. It is nothing like GermanExpress' stuff from a few weeks ago but it looks overweight and was domestic so sometimes you gotta make a trade off. Who do you usually prefer buying from? It always seems so sporadic with amph on SR.
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Mate dont think any arguement boy master top man for phet at moment,ge was good as well but turned scammer . For cost and quality BM the man .
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It's interesting how people's opinions of whatever product can differ so wildly on here at times. Not accusing anyone of foul play, but just interesting...
Anyway, I've tried the following sellers thank i would rank so far in order of potency in effects... That I have tried, anyway. My ROA has always been insufflation once air dried and powdered (if a paste) to the best of my ability.
TheMangledOne2012 - the best speed (UK 'base')) I've ever had from here, very euphoric feeling to it with a less physical effect and more mental euphoria, confidence, amazing mental drive and ability to find even the most repetitive things great fun.. confidence levels completely through the roof. Unfortunately he isn't listing anything these days, however if he was he'd be my 1st choice easily.
dmtdoodeelsd - slightly disappointed with this stuff, mostly due to the fact my expectations were really high considering their claims of it being the best they've come across home and abroad. Noticed fairly moderate physical effects, increased heartrate and general physical energy levels, mental focus and euphoria felt pretty lacking although slight. Not awful shit. But certainly nothing special.
DiscountDrugs - I found their Dried Best Base to be fairly strong, good stuff, I'd say it was what I described for TheMangledOne2012's base, but just a little less effective in all aspects, but based on who I've tried so far their Dried Best Base is the best available for vendors that are still actually listing. Their Amphetimine Sulphate base (non-dried) is about equal dmt's, if not slightly more euphoric.
PremiumDutch - A seller who doesn't seem to be listing anymore. I found this base to be around the weakest of the lot, probably a little worse than dmt's in all aspects. Wouldn't have re-ordered.
The general consensus seems to be that AC and Boymaster are about the best available at the moment. As most do I find AC so be simply too expensive to consider making an order. Will be placing an order with BoyMaster fairly soon and am expecting some pretty good things.
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It's interesting how people's opinions of whatever product can differ so wildly on here at times. Not accusing anyone of foul play, but just interesting...
Anyway, I've tried the following sellers thank i would rank so far in order of potency in effects... That I have tried, anyway. My ROA has always been insufflation once air dried and powdered (if a paste) to the best of my ability.
TheMangledOne2012 - the best speed (UK 'base')) I've ever had from here, very euphoric feeling to it with a less physical effect and more mental euphoria, confidence, amazing mental drive and ability to find even the most repetitive things great fun.. confidence levels completely through the roof. Unfortunately he isn't listing anything these days, however if he was he'd be my 1st choice easily.
dmtdoodeelsd - slightly disappointed with this stuff, mostly due to the fact my expectations were really high considering their claims of it being the best they've come across home and abroad. Noticed fairly moderate physical effects, increased heartrate and general physical energy levels, mental focus and euphoria felt pretty lacking although slight. Not awful shit. But certainly nothing special.
DiscountDrugs - I found their Dried Best Base to be fairly strong, good stuff, I'd say it was what I described for TheMangledOne2012's base, but just a little less effective in all aspects, but based on who I've tried so far their Dried Best Base is the best available for vendors that are still actually listing. Their Amphetimine Sulphate base (non-dried) is about equal dmt's, if not slightly more euphoric.
PremiumDutch - A seller who doesn't seem to be listing anymore. I found this base to be around the weakest of the lot, probably a little worse than dmt's in all aspects. Wouldn't have re-ordered.
The general consensus seems to be that AC and Boymaster are about the best available at the moment. As most do I find AC so be simply too expensive to consider making an order. Will be placing an order with BoyMaster fairly soon and am expecting some pretty good things.
If Boymaster only shipped international :(
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Hi everyone!!
We do ship WORLDWIDE from this moment, no order has been caught abroad europe, so, why not?
Enjoy!!
My best regards
BM
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Curious for the new batch cause the last one was outstanding :)
Yeah that's also what you said about GE... ::) ::)
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Hi everyone!!
We do ship WORLDWIDE from this moment, no order has been caught abroad europe, so, why not?
Enjoy!!
My best regards
BM
very nice.........I look forward to working with you in the future.
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I bought a 0.5 gramme of phet off AC a while back.
I can't really post a good review, but I can vouch for it's quality - 30mg eaten would have me working all day, and I used most of it for getting an absolutely shitton of studying done.
The last 70mg I snorted which was nice - euphoric sort of phet, no unpleasant comedown or anything.
I can't really say whether it was worth the price to me, but it is definitely the best amphetamine on here
Have you tried BoyMaster's ?
Yeah, I bought 1g of it when he first listed and then 5g the day it arrived. I've been through about 1g so far.
It's also very good - I didn't feel it was as good but I think the 70% figure is believable. I didn't really notice any differences in the euphoria.
I like that he's been quite communicative in this thread, even telling people the cutting agent.
Will look out for when he lists uncut grammes.
Both vendors are very good & communicative, AC's is imo better, but like many have said there is a gulf between the pricing of the 2
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It's interesting how people's opinions of whatever product can differ so wildly on here at times. Not accusing anyone of foul play, but just interesting...
Anyway, I've tried the following sellers thank i would rank so far in order of potency in effects... That I have tried, anyway. My ROA has always been insufflation once air dried and powdered (if a paste) to the best of my ability.
TheMangledOne2012 - the best speed (UK 'base')) I've ever had from here, very euphoric feeling to it with a less physical effect and more mental euphoria, confidence, amazing mental drive and ability to find even the most repetitive things great fun.. confidence levels completely through the roof. Unfortunately he isn't listing anything these days, however if he was he'd be my 1st choice easily.
dmtdoodeelsd - slightly disappointed with this stuff, mostly due to the fact my expectations were really high considering their claims of it being the best they've come across home and abroad. Noticed fairly moderate physical effects, increased heartrate and general physical energy levels, mental focus and euphoria felt pretty lacking although slight. Not awful shit. But certainly nothing special.
DiscountDrugs - I found their Dried Best Base to be fairly strong, good stuff, I'd say it was what I described for TheMangledOne2012's base, but just a little less effective in all aspects, but based on who I've tried so far their Dried Best Base is the best available for vendors that are still actually listing. Their Amphetimine Sulphate base (non-dried) is about equal dmt's, if not slightly more euphoric.
PremiumDutch - A seller who doesn't seem to be listing anymore. I found this base to be around the weakest of the lot, probably a little worse than dmt's in all aspects. Wouldn't have re-ordered.
The general consensus seems to be that AC and Boymaster are about the best available at the moment. As most do I find AC so be simply too expensive to consider making an order. Will be placing an order with BoyMaster fairly soon and am expecting some pretty good things.
If Boymaster only shipped international :(
hey DD, how are you doing? ;)
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Received my 3 g from UGS today. Really pleasant vendor, quick turnaround, discreet. Considering the texture of the vac seal, I was relieved to see it was nicely overweight (compensating for that which was stuck to the sides).
It looks exactly as pictured/described. A consistent light pink powder/small rock clumps.
I tasted a bit and could definitely taste amphetamine, but it seemed like there was something else in there as well.
20 mg bump. Felt some light stimulation. At 15 mintues I could tell it had amphetamine for sure, but it didn't feel like 70%.
I capped 40 mg and swallowed it. By an hour I had a light but stronger buzz, but also I've had a brutal headache since yesterday afternoon.
The headache finally subsided over the next 2 hours while the light stimulation persisted. I put 20 mg in a tissue this time and swallowed it. This hit me much more distinctly than the capsule did earlier. This got me talkative.
Still an enjoyable but light buzz, so I did a 30 mg bump, followed by another 50mg in tissue over the next hour.
Finally feeling it now. Visceral sensations/tingly rush, mood elevation, and euphoria, still building as I type.
A hint of jitteryness, but no more than I'd get from adderall.
Overall, this is on par what JackintheRox had to say about it a couple pages back, and as others have speculated, this sounds very much like Boymaster's speed.
The euphoria is however more pronounced than I anticipated. After 160 mg, it feels similar to 30-40 mg adderall (which after years of use is ideal for me). It certainly does not feel like 70% IME (which I don't blame UGS for, in fact, for this price I'd order more). Whatever else might be in it seems to be inert so far.
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Hi everyone!!
We do ship WORLDWIDE from this moment, no order has been caught abroad europe, so, why not?
Enjoy!!
My best regards
BM
don't see an international shipping option, just a few for EU priority, EU registered, etc...anyone make an out of continent order yet?? I figure BM will be out of stock pretty quickly and need some actually decent amph to get me through a week of moving, patching holes, and repainting my trashed apartment.
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Received my 3 g from UGS today. Really pleasant vendor, quick turnaround, discreet. Considering the texture of the vac seal, I was relieved to see it was nicely overweight (compensating for that which was stuck to the sides).
It looks exactly as pictured/described. A consistent light pink powder/small rock clumps.
I tasted a bit and could definitely taste amphetamine, but it seemed like there was something else in there as well.
20 mg bump. Felt some light stimulation. At 15 mintues I could tell it had amphetamine for sure, but it didn't feel like 70%.
I capped 40 mg and swallowed it. By an hour I had a light but stronger buzz, but also I've had a brutal headache since yesterday afternoon.
The headache finally subsided over the next 2 hours while the light stimulation persisted. I put 20 mg in a tissue this time and swallowed it. This hit me much more distinctly than the capsule did earlier. This got me talkative.
Still an enjoyable but light buzz, so I did a 30 mg bump, followed by another 50mg in tissue over the next hour.
Finally feeling it now. Visceral sensations/tingly rush, mood elevation, and euphoria, still building as I type.
A hint of jitteryness, but no more than I'd get from adderall.
Overall, this is on par what JackintheRox had to say about it a couple pages back, and as others have speculated, this sounds very much like Boymaster's speed.
The euphoria is however more pronounced than I anticipated. After 160 mg, it feels similar to 30-40 mg adderall (which after years of use is ideal for me). It certainly does not feel like 70% IME (which I don't blame UGS for, in fact, for this price I'd order more). Whatever else might be in it seems to be inert so far.
Exactly. It was overweight so that makes up for the quality. It doesn't taste very strong so it must have been stepped on somewhat with something dull. Anyways glad to hear you are enjoying it as well, too bad my 5g will fly by at this rate! Also, are you saying that Boymaster's stuff is the same type as this?
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Hey BoyMaster never received my 5grams from GE :@ and log in today after putting bitcoins in my account to buy 5 grams from you to see the listing is gone :o
Hombre, can I still order 5 grams or are you only doing 2 gram listing.
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Anyways glad to hear you are enjoying it as well, too bad my 5g will fly by at this rate! Also, are you saying that Boymaster's stuff is the same type as this?
No, I've no idea (haven't tried BMs stuff). I mentioned that because a couple thread pages back, a members stated that it looks/sounds like BM stuff being resold, especially given that it's from Spain. If compared to BMs reviews, I'd say it's consistent overall.
I hear you though, my 3 g is going faster than I hoped too.
Seems to be a universal problem when it comes to drugs :) Enjoy your holiday.
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Experiences with speed vendors so far:
Imprint: Starting off with his "Uncut Amphetamine Sulfate" cause it was beyond horrendous. What the fuck was that stuff? I will never know. What I do know is that parachuting 1.5g's of that stuff DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Amsterdope: Wet as balls, was alright I guess, never really got a rush from any dosage but the high was noticeable when trying to study.
DD: 1/ Super - per profile advice, dissolved it in a bottle of water, drank 1/2 of the mixture, for someone with a fairly high tolerance like me, it was a subtle euphoria/rush enough to be satisfying for the day but doesn't hold a candle to the putty.
2/ Best Base - Came wet; once dried, parachuted ~.25g, definitely more of a body/euphoric high than a mind/focus high. Better than Super by far.
3/ Formular Putty - Holy Balls Batman, fucking awesome shit. Came wet like the best base did, but unlike the best base, it did not dry into white pieces. Rather, it maintained a "putty" consistency like grainy white-playdoh. It was a little more inconvenient to dose because the putty is quite sticky (finger-licking good though!). Great fucking euphoric high, brought me back to my first days trying addy when my mouth would be drier than pamela anderson's snatch and the only way I could get solid foods in my stomach was by chewing them into bits then chugging them down with water. Damn haha, haven't fucking rushed that hard in years.
UGS: Came nice and dry, parachuted ~.2g, mega-fucking focus. Ripped through the day's eye-gougingly boring lectures/tasks with ease with a resulting feeling of having retained and learned everything, rather than any feeling of brain-fog regarding what the fuck I had just done/learned. Overall, focus on par/slightly better than the putty but def. less euphoric.
boymaster: N/A; will update after
alberthofman: N/A; will update after
[(Fanny Hill): ICE Speed Pills - quite mediocre IMO, terrible for trying to learn something but great for socializing] -> brackets because it's only semi-related
Overall, so far, DD's Formular Putty & UGS are my favorites. Personally, I have to give the edge right now to the putty, mainly because I thought I would never again experience that type of rush. I do however, realize my experiences are subjective, so these are just my two-cents so far. I will keep all the above updated and expand on it when new experiences/events arise.
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@müslix i think he is referring to undergroundsyndicate. And the "WWII"- stuff is hilarious...brilliant, reading this made my day. About the facts behind the story, i have noting to add to müslix.
And to your review@ alreadytaken. I honestly don't get it why 80% of the reviews of DDs stuff say that it's rubbish (i mean like "i'd rather snort baking soda") and 20% pray that it's gonna rain the stuff. Don't get me wrong..i don't say that you are faking or something in this way, but i'm really curious about the reasons of these (assumed) spreading effects.
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Amphetamine pills are still used in militaries today. In World War II, Germany used Meth pills, Pervitin, like you said, and the British, specifically the RAF used Methedrine. Both brands are Meth. German amph use is said to have helped the success of the Blitzkrieg, while British amph use is said to have helped the win the Battle of Britain. Americans use amph pills I think, even today, and the ,,Tarnak Farm Incident" was blamed on amphetamine use (source Wikipedia).
Hitler wasn't the only one who was addicted to drugs. Göring was shot in the leg and groin in the Hitler Putsch of 1923. He was addicted to morphine and other painkillers until he died. Maybe amph/meth psychosis was part of a reason of the atrocites that were not only so unimaginably cruel, but also incredibly systematic and organized?
Vor ein paar Tagen war ich bei die Ruinen von Hitlers Berghof. Es war sehr informierend, aber ich bin ein bischen beschämt, dass ich eine Droge regelmäßig rein schmeisse, die vermutlich so eine unmenschliche Regierung geholfen hat.
Also got DMTdodeeLSD's stuff. Will review when it dries.
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Hehe.. well the entire World War 1 was 'based' on cocaine use, you don't feel guilty using cocaine because it prolonged the Great War too, do you? :P
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Known fact hitler speed user and meth read all about used to feed to ss and other infantry to keep them marching for days on end and focused .Bet he never had trouble we sometimes have gettin good gear .HA :o
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[(Fanny Hill): ICE Speed Pills - quite mediocre IMO, terrible for trying to learn something but great for socializing] -> brackets because it's only semi-related
Have you tried meth? I suspect many of the canadian speed pills available contain methamphetamine, simply because it's more easily available than regular amphetamine.
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Hehe.. well the entire World War 1 was 'based' on cocaine use, you don't feel guilty using cocaine because it prolonged the Great War too, do you? :P
Nope, but think about it. Nazis were crazy to begin with, but what if meth made them crazier/more paranoid, and able to do everything so organized? What if they only hated Jews to begin with, but meth made them so crazy they built a bunch of camps to kill them? Scares me, but I only use amph for good.
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Personally sitting on both Boy Masters last treasured little bit from my 2g i bought last month. I have been winding and mixing and matching trashing my tolerances all month. After lots of trials and doses I haveto say that Boy Masters gear still is the bomb. Nice and dry it does not seem quite as hydrophilic as Discount drugs gear. Now much to my disappointment I got 2g of the super which flat out sucked for my purposes of snorting even after a nice dry acetone wash that only lost 10% weight and removed the aweful taste. It ewas so quick to ball up and grab the humid air and disappear under any kid of heat stress. His bases were really good but long gone wish I had tried the new base. BoyMasters gear is a hard driver and consistant day after day. Bought a g from UGS and it is nicely dry and over weight and domestic for me. I would say that I do not belive it to be Boy Masters gear. The flavor is totally flat and different in my nose. I have BoyMaster gears very dry but the flavor and rain are totally different to my palette. I also find the UGS gear a bit weaker but more euphroic somehow while BM is more driving.
Just my two cents and I am disappointed to see some many bad reviews of DD gear now after I had a pretty good sampler from them makes you wonder about the flow over there. Was it a bait and switch or bad stability?
Hilly
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[(Fanny Hill): ICE Speed Pills - quite mediocre IMO, terrible for trying to learn something but great for socializing] -> brackets because it's only semi-related
Have you tried meth? I suspect many of the canadian speed pills available contain methamphetamine, simply because it's more easily available than regular amphetamine.
I know there are copycat ICE pills but am almost certain the legit ICE pills are only amphetamines and not meth. I read they only named them "ICE" because they wanted to copy Dentyne Ice chewing gum, not because ice refers to crystal meth. :o
I also find the UGS gear a bit weaker but more euphroic somehow while BM is more driving.
UGS is more euphoric than BM's? Even after large doses (due to low purity) of UGS' I never felt any euphoria, only that consistent dull/boring/adderall-like amphetamine high. This somehow dissuades me from trying BM's. Ugh. Ohhhh the decisions in life! :-\
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Hi, yeah the shipping options are not updated but they'll be soon, but the prices are almost the same so don't mind. Anyway thanks for the note.
Also I'm proud to inform everyone that all orders will be vacuum sealed from this moment (today's orders too).
Best regards
BM
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Mate i thought your last packagin fuckin genius look forward to receiving order in transit ,when do you expect to put up listings for larger orders again ?
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Has anyone already received Boymaster's second batch and can say if quality is the same, better or worse?
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Priority don't have to be signed, and, obviously registered needs to be signed on delivery and is more controlled, a tracking number, etc.. look at wikipedia for more info...
@fast dude, the next BIG batch will be ready in two-three weeks, we are working hard to have it as soon as possible.
Greets
BM
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I don't know which drugs, but I do know the food which refill your dopamine.
It's mostly normal food, like fish, meat, cheese, eggs, milk, nuts & seeds.
There are also supplements, but they are expensive and the food should be enough :)
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@müslix: Dopamine depletion is very unlikely to be an issue if you have not used any dopamine releasing/reuptake inhibiting drugs for a month. You might still have a tolerance though, due to dopamine receptor downregulation. In my case, it can take months for my amphetamine tolerance to go down after a period of moderate daily doses.
Some say the tolerance can be reversed with selegiline, but personally I think that's due to the MAOI action of selegiline potentiating the amphetamine rather than actual upregulation taking place. Concurrent use of selegiline and amphetamine will give you a much stronger buzz for a much smaller dosage, but will probably lead to further downregulation of the dopamine receptors and is generally not recommended.
As usual there are relevant threads on Bluelight :)
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/577851-Amphetamine-Neurotoxicity-and-Tolerance-Reduction-Prevention/
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/555765-Potentiate-Amphetamines-and-Ritalin-300-500-with-Selegiline
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Muslix mate best recovery for me protein shakes fast acting way to replenish what you need to put back in to your system ,im bodybuilder and speed takes urge away for shit food and good for focus . :-*
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nope, misunderstanding here :) haven't done Adderall for a month when I got GE's speed, then Wife's meth, where I first started to notice some lack of dopaminergic effects and I figured it must have been a bad batch. But now that I am experiencing something similar with AC's gear (though mood-lifting properties were there for sure, the real euphoria I hoped for wasn't) I wanna rule out it being me, since part of the effects are actually there just not as intense as I hoped for.
The rush I got from GE was really awesome, although it could have been more euphoric.
Thanks for the bluelight links! will read after lunch!
Ah, I see. Dopamine doesn't usually take very long to replenish, but if you want to speed it up a bit more you can try l-tyrosine (a precursor to dopamine). I don't have any experience with it myself, so I can't vouch for its' efficacy.
About having a separate user-thread for all these discussions.. I think it adds to the review-thread to be able to read what people reviewing the products have written about other things. If someone new is reading the thread to find the best place to order amphetamine at the moment, it's easy to just post the question and let us regulars answer it.
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My review on DMTdoodeeLSD's base.
Pre-review note: been taking 80mg a day of Amsterdope's stuff. 80mg of Amsterdope's = about 45mg of AC's I noticed.
Anyway, got it yesterday and dried it out through the night. Dried it weighed about 1.49g (ordered 2.5), but it's still a sticky pasty mass. Difficult to cut/keep organized.
Took 50mg of it an hour ago. I would say quality is definitely good, but since you're not supposed to snort paste, the come up took a bit longer (I snorted it anyway though). Didn't feel full effects until 45min later coz of digestion obviously. As soon as I snorted it, I felt an euphoria almost, happiness that actually happened to be stronger than AC's, but the initial rush was only about 10min long before it decreased to 40mg AC's/80mg Amsterdope's levels. My heart is beating super fast though, as fast as it does on 50mg of AC's.
The taste is closer to AC's, but tastes a little worse? Def something in there that I really don't like the taste of. Smell is barely noticeable, almost nothing, but my nose is fucked (I've never been able to smell very well... :/ ).
Dunno. Quality is definitely good, you decide if you want to spend 8 bitcoins on 1.5.g of higher end stuff. Seems good quality.
In comparison, while AC's is def the best, the price is high; with Amsterdope's you have to take double the amount but with that doubled dose, the quality is still pretty good and you get the full weight; and DMT's the quality is def on the higher end and idk about the price but I guess it's an okay deal. Just wish I could be in powder form.
I'm lucky that I've never had any "bad" speed, because I try to inform myself about who the good dealers are, and all product I had so far has been satisfying. My only complaint is the effects of Amsterdope's wears off in like 5hours unlike I redose or take a lot or don't eat at all, and I feel like I'm wasting it.
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Hey guys, today my order from alberthofmann http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/05a8f09d92 5g of speed paste, arrived.
Packing was okay but should be improved.
I am really concerned about the stuff he sent me, its wet / oily as fuck, yellowish gear, with almost no scent (has a little smell that reminds me on mdma)
Dried it and prepared some lines, was hard to dry and gear turned into white salty stuff but no real powder.
I finally snorted one tiny line because i feared it might be some real fuck.
Did not feel much if anything oO so i snorted 2 more lines and finally nodded on my couch while watching tv... so, THIS IS NO SPEED !
just woke up and iam pissed!
uploaded a pic of the gear i received: http://4eiruntyxxbgfv7o.onion/imgzapr/upload/alberthoffmann.jpg
be aware of this guy, hope this gets solved !
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@eryx2k9 that could actually be the real base, in case you have access to sulfur acid try this http://www.scribd.com/doc/29100750/Amphetamine-Sulphate-Synthesis (scroll down) - otherwise dump that stuff! He has taken the speed offline as it seems, as what did he advertise it?
@raven you can snort the paste easily just elapse the amount you wanna take on a mirror and wait 5 minutes, - the solvents dry out quickly - then pulverize the stuff, might lose some potency though, but you get the kick :P
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uploaded a pic of the gear i received: http://4eiruntyxxbgfv7o.onion/imgzapr/upload/alberthoffmann.jpg
be aware of this guy, hope this gets solved !
Wow WTF is that!? I'd throw it away if I were you, doesn't look good AT all...
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@eryx2k9 that could actually be the real base, in case you have access to sulfur acid try this http://www.scribd.com/doc/29100750/Amphetamine-Sulphate-Synthesis (scroll down) - otherwise dump that stuff! He has taken the speed offline as it seems, as what did he advertise it?
I've seen stuff like that on the street. It's probably cut with some liquid crap, possibly water. You can try heating a dinner plate in a microwave oven for 2 minutes and then put the content of the bag on the plate. While whatever liquid is in there evaporates, work it over with a credit card or similar. Once it's *completely* dry, I recommend you do an acetone wash. Don't attempt doing an acetone wash on the wet compound, as the amphetamine might be dissolved in water and pass right through your coffee filter together with the acetone.
Not sure it'll work, but it's my best recommendation.
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@eryx2k9 that could actually be the real base, in case you have access to sulfur acid try this http://www.scribd.com/doc/29100750/Amphetamine-Sulphate-Synthesis (scroll down) - otherwise dump that stuff! He has taken the speed offline as it seems, as what did he advertise it?
@raven you can snort the paste easily just elapse the amount you wanna take on a mirror and wait 5 minutes, - the solvents dry out quickly - then pulverize the stuff, might lose some potency though, but you get the kick :P
he advertised it as pure gear direct from producer but cutted 50:50 if i remember right, another guy who bought from him and finalized already gave hime 1/5 as well, iam glad i did not finalize yet !
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@eryx2k9 that could actually be the real base, in case you have access to sulfur acid try this http://www.scribd.com/doc/29100750/Amphetamine-Sulphate-Synthesis (scroll down) - otherwise dump that stuff! He has taken the speed offline as it seems, as what did he advertise it?
I've seen stuff like that on the street. It's probably cut with some liquid crap, possibly water. You can try heating a dinner plate in a microwave oven for 2 minutes and then put the content of the bag on the plate. While whatever liquid is in there evaporates, work it over with a credit card or similar. Once it's *completely* dry, I recommend you do an acetone wash. Don't attempt doing an acetone wash on the wet compound, as the amphetamine might be dissolved in water and pass right through your coffee filter together with the acetone.
Not sure it'll work, but it's my best recommendation.
thanks for your recommendation, already did an aceton wash, 45% gone so far... but i doubt whats left is amphe.. maybe some other shit he is listing mixed together, or something went wrong when producing... who knows! sent him two pm's curious what / if he will reply.
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ERYX mate ive had uk base or other name BRAIN ,very strong base speed yellow colour but nothing like that.Ide take knomo advice and flush it down loo . :(
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Oh yeah by the way what DiscountDrugs is selling isn't amphetamine base but DD uses base as a slang word for speed I think everyone understands that right?
(edit: not to be a smart ass or anything but imho referring to regular speed as base is kind of bs)
I realized that but I don't understand it :P both UK vendors do it actually^^
PS: I wouldn't buy any speed from juergen2001 until someone lab-tested his "new" stuff, as the last contained meth.. I don't follow this forum that long and found that recently: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15749.0 - for potential new guys/girls
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ERYX mate ive had uk base or other name BRAIN ,very strong base speed yellow colour but nothing like that.Ide take knomo advice and flush it down loo . :(
yeah done that... order from germansupplier 1g lets see how this goes :)
have some of boymasters gear enroute as well, unfortunately my btc came too late so all the bigger listings were gone ^^ but 1g is better then none :P
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(sry for my bad english )
@eryx2k9
i recived today the same stuff from alberthofmann, finalize after incoming mail -.-
i take 1.5g oral, nasal it was feel like napalm in my nose for over 40 minuetes
after this stupid junkydoing i guess this stuff have max. 2-4% amphetamin.
and i think it was mixed with glasspowder, little crystalls inthere cant crush it on the mirror
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(sry for my bad english )
@eryx2k9
i recived today the same stuff from alberthofmann, finalize after incoming mail -.-
i take 1.5g oral, nasal it was feel like napalm in my nose for over 40 minuetes
after this stupid junkydoing i guess this stuff have max. 2-4% amphetamin.
and i think it was mixed with glasspowder, little crystalls inthere cant crush it on the mirror
That's disturbing. I would be pissed as hell if I ordered a bunch of speed and ended up with crap like that. Good thing we seem to have at least to vendors at the moment who really deliver on quality.
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Yeh tour right mate ,imade mistake two weeks ago trying stuff from super trips .It is worst ive had i would say zero amph .And by reply from his pm to me he doesnt give a fuck >:(
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I think I just received my order from BoyMaster. I don't think I am expecting anything else, so it has to be it. Dude if thats really from you, you definitely take the cake for package creativity.
Haha I know right ;D Had me puzzled the first time :P 'Wtf is this? I didn't order anything like this..... oh wait..' 8)
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Would anyone be interested in hooking up to buy 5+ gram from AC? price would be 9.75BTC per gram. I'd reship priority for free (crystal wife style). I am pretty sure I can get 3. If interested please post or pm me. eu only please and i am not in it for the profit, i'd only do this to lower the price for myself. if you don't trust me, just ignore this.
good idea, pm'd you
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i think i received today my speed order from Boymaster... he is the best man! tripled my order o.O
love ya man
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Yes that is why 'snortable' amphetamine can't be over 72/73% (somewhere in that range) in purity, because the base needs at least ~25% salt to not be a liquid.
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Mircowaving or putting paste in the sun to dry is a bad idea coz heat breaks down amph, I think. I'm fine with the paste, but I actually prefer Amsterdope's, even though it's less pure.
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Paste can be dried very easy on a CD case or anything like that.. Smack some paste on, chop it up and it'll be dry within a few minutes.. Chop up some more and taadaaa
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I too got my package from BoyMaster today, here is my review.
As expected, the packaging was brilliant. Not vac-sealed, but stealthy as fuck. (BM apparently vac-seals his bags from now on.) The product weighted in at a nice 10288mg without the bag.
The powder looks like his previous batch; a bit yellow/orangeish with with some lumps and some finer powder. I smell a very very faint floral hint but must really concentrate to smell it and it might just be my imagination. I don't remember what substance it is that gives some amphetamine batches that flower smell, but whatever it is there is not much in there.
I haven't tried this speed yet, but it seems identical to the first batch and I have no reason to believe it is of lesser potency.
I also received 1078mg of BM:s pure amphetamine sulphate. It looks very similar to the regular product, but instead of lumps and powder the pure sulphate is all rocks. They are not very easy to crush into powder as they tend to just change shape when you apply pressure. Smell is similar to the regular product.
I weighted 16mg of the pure stuff - one medium sized pebble - and made it into a tiny line as well as I could. It hurts a bit when snorted. Not that bad, but definitely unpleasant for a few seconds. I have never had pure amphetamine, so I don't really know what to compare the effects to, but I got a nice buzz going from those 16mg. Maybe even a little too much for studying.
Conclusion: Most potent amphetamine I've ever had. Kudos to the Master. Now I gotta go chain-smoke a pack of cigarettes.
edit: Later I tried some of the regular stuff. The lumps in there behave the exact same way as the ones in the pure product when you try to crush them. Hurts about the same to snort. My guess is that BoyMaster doesn't completely pulverise the sulphate before mixing it with lactose. Care to confirm, BM?
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BoyMaster's stuff is incredible, and the packaging was so fucking clever. I can't imagine that any other vendor on the road puts down so much effort in his packaging. I'm convinced that customs wouldn't find the product even if they opened the package. Pretty clever return address label too.
And I wouldn't doubt the 70% purity for a second, BoyMaster really is the master!
Would probably be great for studying/intense work at dosages 5-15mg.
(Note: As have been said before, pure speed burns and so does 70%. Dilute it with dextrose or something similar if you are planning to insufflate, the best option would probably be myo-Inositol)
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@valentinesmith did you ask for the pure stuff or did i just miss it while he still was active? (it's a shame that he is out of it again - hope he'll return quite soon).
I jumped the bacon and tried the stuff of Germansupplier (white "paste")
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/6b4bda9cfe
It's as he describes it - pretty dry and not too strong and cheap. But to be honest, i got much worse for a lot of money from other vendors on the road. It has a disgusting chemical smell and i choose not do snort it. Just for fun i did an acetone wash (jeah... don't do it ^^). Out of 120 mg (my first test) i got 50mg after a 2x wash. The 50mg had a nice white color and almost no smell at all. This i snorted and found it quite nice in effect (looking at the amount).
Cheers,
ct
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Mircowaving or putting paste in the sun to dry is a bad idea coz heat breaks down amph, I think. I'm fine with the paste, but I actually prefer Amsterdope's, even though it's less pure.
While this is probably technically correct, I don't think that the sun in a western european country would produce enough heat to break it down. We are talking about 40-50°C in the sun vs. way over 500°C of a cigarette lighter when trying to be smoked. The average lighter uses butan(?) which burns extremely hot, over 1000°C iirc. Could be wrong though. I don't store my amph in the open sun ;D
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Ordered last night, 5G from Boymaster. I will keep you all informed. :)
As promised earlier... I just find the package in the mailbox! So ordered 3 Juli and received on 6 July (Netherlands)
I opened the envelop and there was an A4 paper folded 2 times, the size of the envelop. Unwrapped it and there was a nice small bag in it. On the back side there was a retour address. The stuff in the smaill bag has a beige color and seems dry powder with a couple of rocks.
I took some with my key and cut it into fine powder with a debit card into a fine line. Snorted it into both nose holes with a 10 euro bill. Line was about 3 cm long ( always take a very small line at the beginning just to test )
For 5 minuts long it burned like a motherfucker and my eyes are tearing. Waited ten minuts and then had to take a dump.... lol
Now i'm typing this message on the couch while my head and arm skin is tinteling. From some speed i get a big bodyweight for an hour or so because it's cut with cafeine but not from this powder :D This was just a small snort to test, tomorrow i'll take some more/ bigger line(s).
So conclusion:
Ordered 5 gram Amphetamine sulfate from Boymaster, received it in 3 days.
There was some powder felling out of the envelop, when i looked closer there was a little hole in the bag
It doesn't smell VERY strong but the stuff seems great.
It's powder, not paste ( but that's not a bad thing, maybe it even should be with sulfate )
I bought from Boymaster because of the very good reviews and he's making those promises true.
( my first order was from GermanExpress because of the good reviews but package never arrived and sellers seems to be gone ) so i was a little bit nervous about this order.
Overal: If Boymaster has some sellings, ORDER! 5 out of 5 points!!! I know i will do!!
ps. one very great thing i liked: i didn't had to Finalize Early like at some other sellers, as buyer always be safe and keep it in escrow, don't FE!!!
ps2. I don't get anything from BM, i'm just a happy customer. Credit where credit belongs.
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Hi
MDDude, it was a mistake...we had 40+ orders in two days, and the 1g quantity 3 order of other buyer took us to this poor mistake... I think that someone will receive 1g instead of 3g...
"My guess is that BoyMaster doesn't completely pulverise the sulphate before mixing it with lactose. Care to confirm, BM?"
Yeah, the grinder broke in middle of the work, and yes, it's "clumpy" or "waxy" caused by a little of freebase remaining with the sulfate. The problem has been worked out and solved.
müslix, the sorry was written by the "shipment-boy" cause (I think) he was unable to send it as priority or something similar.
Best regards
BM
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@müslix, ct2012: I ordered it. Very well spent 5 BTC :). BM said a while back that he'd sell his speed uncut on request and I jumped on it.
@somebody12345: Try to avoid talking in detail about how vendors package their stuff. By the way, that packaging sounds dodgy. Not exactly BM:s normal method.
@boymaster: Not really a problem for me, I was just curious. Keep up the good work!
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Hi
MDDude, it was a mistake...we had 40+ orders in two days, and the 1g quantity 3 order of other buyer took us to this poor mistake... I think that someone will receive 1g instead of 3g...
"My guess is that BoyMaster doesn't completely pulverise the sulphate before mixing it with lactose. Care to confirm, BM?"
Yeah, the grinder broke in middle of the work, and yes, it's "clumpy" or "waxy" caused by a little of freebase remaining with the sulfate. The problem has been worked out and solved.
müslix, the sorry was written by the "shipment-boy" cause (I think) he was unable to send it as priority or something similar.
Best regards
BM
When is your next batch on the road ?
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Hi
MDDude, it was a mistake...we had 40+ orders in two days, and the 1g quantity 3 order of other buyer took us to this poor mistake... I think that someone will receive 1g instead of 3g...
"My guess is that BoyMaster doesn't completely pulverise the sulphate before mixing it with lactose. Care to confirm, BM?"
Yeah, the grinder broke in middle of the work, and yes, it's "clumpy" or "waxy" caused by a little of freebase remaining with the sulfate. The problem has been worked out and solved.
müslix, the sorry was written by the "shipment-boy" cause (I think) he was unable to send it as priority or something similar.
Best regards
BM
When is your next batch on the road ?
@boymaster: Haha, maybe you should start taking preorders :)? Just put out fifty or so 1 BTC listings for item "Be in my huge preorder queue". Description? "Either buy this and get a place in my preorder queue, or you will never have time to buy any speed before the batch is all sold. Sincerely, Boymaster". You could change the whole buyer-seller dynamic. Or maybe I'm just too stoned for this.
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Just signed up to jump on the BoyMaster bandwagon.
Butter my arse, this is some tasty fucking speed..! And an extra gram for free. What a legend.
That is all. ;D
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hands down, boymaster is the "go to" guy for amphe on this site.
awesome stuff, superfast within europe, packaging (i think outstanding)
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Mircowaving or putting paste in the sun to dry is a bad idea coz heat breaks down amph, I think. I'm fine with the paste, but I actually prefer Amsterdope's, even though it's less pure.
While this is probably technically correct, I don't think that the sun in a western european country would produce enough heat to break it down. We are talking about 40-50°C in the sun vs. way over 500°C of a cigarette lighter when trying to be smoked. The average lighter uses butan(?) which burns extremely hot, over 1000°C iirc. Could be wrong though. I don't store my amph in the open sun ;D
In terms of the sun, the temperature wouldn't be a problem, but UV-light might be a problem, since it is the start of many reactions in chemistry - forming of free radicals and shit^^
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And soon we gonna see people selling their place in the queue and reselling BM's gear cut down to 1% amp. Might not be the best idea after all ;)
I was stoned and wrote it as a joke :). It was hilarious at the time!
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2 new vendors selling speed.. Interesting.
Only 1 is double in price as the other.. and too bad they start at 2.5g or 5g.. Would like to try some, but not buy a lot all at once, who knows.. it might be bunk.
And grats on the 100 posts muslix 8)
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ive ordered amph from aspirant cooper 2x , second batch is much more potent from first i love this speed so much i need to buy more :)
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I got boymaster's stuff today. I also live in Germany, but idk, it seemed really really really fucking stealthy. Like how would they even recognize it on an X-ray? It's so creative like wow
I'm happy with a daily dose of 80mg of Amsterdope's, which gives me that everything-seems-to-move-really-fast feeling while my heart is pumping out of my chest and I'm thinking about and doing a thousand things in a few minutes. My complaint is that it's pretty much over after those 6-7 hours and then I get hungry. :[
I also noticed it's starting to get harder to control my hunger. idk if it's amsterdope's or coz I've been doing speed everyday for 2 weeks now.
Did 20mg of boymaster's. Everybody else's description of the texture is spot on. Larger rocks are pretty solid and you have to actually try to break them, and when I cut lines on my mirror, the smaller rocks are a bit sticky. No complaints tho, got a good kick and I'm feeling really good and speedy.
Gonna see tomorrow what the right daily dose for me is and how the effects are through the course of the day.
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Oh and I also noticed that when I smoke weed or drink when I'm tweaking I get eye wobbles like on MDMA. Also right now, even though I'm only on amph, but I took kind of a lot.
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My 1g sample from Germansupplier arrived today, took 2 days, smells and looks like it should, will update once tested. Sadly not this weekend.
Also i received a PM from alberthofmann with excuses, promised me to make up for that.
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I also received BMs stuff today. Damn near perfect - slightly over, strong as the last batch and the paintings inside made me smile from the heart. I am really satisfied (and buzzing right now .. how could i not be? ^^). I sure as hell hope that he'll be back soon. For me, BM reminds me a little of Pfandleiher when he first entered the road with his mandy. Nice in communication, fast and selling superior material. I'm really looking forward his next batch and the pure stuff.
Cheers,
ct
EDIT: Woah, what a night. Took about 240 mg during the last couple of hours. Still rotating like Clark Kent in a phone booth. Honestly, this is the best speed i had for like "i even don't remember". It smashed my tolerance like Klitschko smashed Thompson last night. Awesome. Gonna try to sleep now - lol, who am i kidding.
a smooth sunday to you,
ct2012
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What should a very low dose of BMs cause?
I did it this morning and just felt sick. Is that normal?
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Awrite guys not so lucky as some of you my order from still in transit ,any way received 2 g order f jurgens polish speed .Very nice totally different texture an taste from bm stuff ,nice clean buzz happy days . ;)
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What should a very low dose of BMs cause?
I did it this morning and just felt sick. Is that normal?
How much have you tried? Have you had some issues with lactose intolerance in your past (as the cutting agent is reported to be lactose)? What were the symptoms of your sickness?
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What should a very low dose of BMs cause?
I did it this morning and just felt sick. Is that normal?
How much have you tried? Have you had some issues with lactose intolerance in your past (as the cutting agent is reported to be lactose)? What were the symptoms of your sickness?
I guess about 10mg. Could be the case, I don't know, but BM mentioned that there is so little lactose in his speed and it shouldn't matter if you're intolerant to it.
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Check it out guys! We have new speed vendors:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/db71c13ee1
did that guy beat me at the idea of reselling BM's speed? Apparently not, because it's *dutch* speed. why is everyone adding "dutch" as property to their products. when I read that I immediately think BUNK.
And http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/347fb3804d
dunno, somehow reminds me of GE. Is it you GE? We still like you, please come back! :)
Pretty fucked up prejudices built in only a month. lol. You taught me well, SR! Anyone wanna try? I personally do not :P
Lonely Kamel is cheaper and I have had his K and it was really good so I am very tempted...
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Damn it i was way too slow getting my shit together in time to order from BM.
Guess next best is AC, though price is high. Anyone got any other recommendations ? Juergen's 'polish speed paste' worth it ?
Or do i just not bother right now and sit tight for something better to come along ................. hmmmm :o ???
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Personally I wouldn't recommend to buy from Juergen, he lied once about his product when he said he convinced his mdma-cook to make pure amphetamine, which a user had lab-tested for meth, caffeine and some speed..
sceeny: http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=78aa5d91a334ae5526d0104f3aae7f80.jpg
topic: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15749.0
But its been awhile, maybe he has a real product now.
@müslix the whole euphoria talk is strange indeed, I know euphoria on speed only from dancing and fucking :D. Well you get in a better mood and so on, but that's no euphoria. I hope I get BM's by Monday or Tuesday, then I can "compare" with GE's.
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Please guys, read my last post about AC vs BM. I know it's long and I often post BS, but this post doesn't get more on topic and I really need your input. If I turn out to be correct this is not only a shady scam but more important potentially dangerous. Please read these 2 posts!
After a whopping 3 hrs of sleep that 3mg Alprazolam gave me, I am now searching for pictures of actual amp-sulphate. After searching for a while it becomes evident that a high percentage of amp-sulfate looks just like BM's speed. While the number of pictures of amp-sulfate that looks like AC's is Zero. Even the chinese labs show pictures that aren't even close to the degree of fineness AC's speed has.
Then all of a sudden, I come across this totally unrelated picture: http://www.globlead.com/images/2012/06/23/22298/mephedrone-ketamine-mdpv-a-pvp-a-ppp-amphetamine-bath-salts-xanax-alprazolam-methylone-am-2201_1.jpg
The powder looks pretty much exactly like the stuff from AC. Very fine, powdered crystals (?) that reflect sunlight when put on a table as a line. It looks like there's glitter in there. Also I found 3 vendors that claim to sell Amp wholesale. lol.
Now doing a image search on mephedrone, there of course are some differences BUT the consistency of some really looks like my "amp". Now there it is in offwhite. BINGO, looks exactly like mine. Checking erowid, the suggested dosages for meph line up with what AC said about how to dose. My "OD" experience is mentioned and people write about MDMA like euphoria, which needs the Serotonin. The mountain of evidence, that this is not Amp just got a couple of km taller. Reading the effects on erowid, this could easily pass as euphoric speed. I'd probably would have loved it also, if they euphoria kicked in which luckily it didnt. What I also experienced was heavy pupil dilation, which was very noticeable, but I rarely ever have those on speed. Never did, very slightly maybe. All my "OD" symptoms are listed also. Shitload of coincidences if you ask me.
And the million dollar question: Guess who sells Meph on SR?! OMG, it's AC!! What a surprise.
Now it could be that I maybe just got the wrong package, but considering the previous reviews all pointing out the euphoria, when most people can't even tell d-amp and racemic amp apart, I highly doubt it. IF I am correct this is a very very shady scam which really deserves a ban. As soon as I find a qualitative method to test for meph, I'll confirm. Didn't AC say he pays for reviews? Now here you got an in depth one. I demand my money!
@valentinesmith: could you make a picture of BM's pure stuff and post or PM it to me. Would be really great.
TL;DR: The Amp I got from AC doesn't seem to be Amp, but Mephedrone or another RC. Stay away until I confirmed this!
edit: All the detective work was brought to you by BoyMaster's proper speed!
helo there,
I will post a pic of meph and amph both side by side as soon as I have camera by my hand. also don't judge anything when it's not confirmed. please send it to the lab and be sure, because I AM CONFIDENT and sure of what I sell. I could mix up them as I keep both at the same place but its highly unlikely. if I did a mix up, then I am sorry. you said it was white, right ? my meph is slighty yelowish with funky smell (chem like) amph is white, some people compare its strange smell to a rat, because of how specific it is. I am feeling that we need to wait for more reviews to come. I am not here to stand my ground or pushing something. yea, I know. it's hard to believe that someone is paying for a honest review, right ? ;) anyway back to the point. don't cut the tree while it's healthy, man
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What müslix said, Boymaster's is as good as AC's. I don't know about if AC's is not Amph, everything else I've tried compared to AC's in terms of effects.
Took 40mg today. Great kick, and I feel good, so I don't see any euphoria problems. Also last night I should've waited until today, couldn't sleep when I should have.
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Personally I wouldn't recommend to buy from Juergen, he lied once about his product when he said he convinced his mdma-cook to make pure amphetamine, which a user had lab-tested for meth, caffeine and some speed..
sceeny: http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=78aa5d91a334ae5526d0104f3aae7f80.jpg
topic: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15749.0
But its been awhile, maybe he has a real product now.
@müslix the whole euphoria talk is strange indeed, I know euphoria on speed only from dancing and fucking :D. Well you get in a better mood and so on, but that's no euphoria. I hope I get BM's by Monday or Tuesday, then I can "compare" with GE's.
Thanx 4 the heads up on that dude, appreciated :D Will look elsewhere now
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Is Meph much cheaper than Amph? Only then it would make any sense.
If you got a yellowish substance, it's pretty likely Meph as AC said and a mixup is probably the case.
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@muslix please buy marquis reagent or make gc/ms test ... shaman methods for identifing substances are funny ;)
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yep, that is mephedrone. I am sorry, that is my fault. had like 20 or more orders that day and probably I mixed your order as I am going few km to pack it. try some higher dose like 100mg and if there is nice euphoria for like 1,5h, then its mephedrone (and small speedy feeling)
please contact me on the market, I will hapily resend you your goods :)
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pheew, lucky me ;D I really appreciate when vendors admit their mistakes and fix them and don't just try to blame it on the customer. thanks.
I'll edit my reviews so people know that I was reviewing the wrong product.
btw maybe the vendors should put a sticker or write some abbreviation on the bag. I really had no way of knowing that I got the meph. I only got lucky when figuring it out. If Law enforcement opens it, I think some letters or a sticker that hint to the contents will be the least of your worries.
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pheew, lucky me ;D I really appreciate when vendors admit their mistakes and fix them and don't just try to blame it on the customer. thanks.
I'll edit my reviews so people know that I was reviewing the wrong product.
btw maybe the vendors should put a sticker or write some abbreviation on the bag. I really had no way of knowing that I got the meph. I only got lucky when figuring it out. If Law enforcement opens it, I think some letters or a sticker that hint to the contents will be the least of your worries.
no luck, I would say a fair thing to do ;) some people would rather want to take a hit on their rank than resend, but thats not me. I want to be clear with clients and always go above everything to reach this goal
thanks
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Why the hell did I order from a vendor called DISCOUNT DRUGS. Lol.
The "best base" speed was complete rubbish and didn't do shit even in mega doses of like 300mg. and I only received 860mg out of 1100mg.
He offered to reship 50% claiming it had gone unstable and 150mg sample of the dried best base (a week ago).
Then ignores messages (busy of course), then responds saying he could ship a line of coke and didn't he already reship me 2g of his street speed product? The fuck? no. I once more give my address as he asks for the 2nd or 3rd time but now ignores reading my messages for 3 days (despite logging in every day).
Who knows, maybe heee issss super busy but this is a totally bad way of treating customers. Still it feels odd complaining about drug dealers, a lot of them are scummy since it's all illegal stuffs. Who knows, maybe Discountdrugs will come through and I'll re-evaulate my opinion slightly (even if I do receive a real product reship the amount of time taken just to communicate and have it shipped is not cool)
Oh well sick of waiting around, need some amph to do work. guess I'll go order 5g of boymaster or something and buy some crystal mdma.. throw a few shards in to get euphoric eh.
Toodles.
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Why the hell did I order from a vendor called DISCOUNT DRUGS. Lol.
The "best base" speed was complete rubbish and didn't do shit even in mega doses of like 300mg. and I only received 860mg out of 1100mg.
He offered to reship 50% claiming it had gone unstable and 150mg sample of the dried best base (a week ago).
Then ignores messages (busy of course), then responds saying he could ship a line of coke and didn't he already reship me 2g of his street speed product? The fuck? no. I once more give my address as he asks for the 2nd or 3rd time but now ignores reading my messages for 3 days (despite logging in every day).
Who knows, maybe heee issss super busy but this is a totally bad way of treating customers. Still it feels odd complaining about drug dealers, a lot of them are scummy since it's all illegal stuffs. Who knows, maybe Discountdrugs will come through and I'll re-evaulate my opinion slightly (even if I do receive a real product reship the amount of time taken just to communicate and have it shipped is not cool)
Oh well sick of waiting around, need some amph to do work. guess I'll go order 5g of boymaster or something and buy some crystal mdma.. throw a few shards in to get euphoric eh.
Toodles.
Welcome to the club ;) DiscountDrugs offers absolutely bunk speed.
MDMA, Meth, Speed, Coke would be the way to go, despite the fact that Meth shouldn't be tried.
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+1 for you AgentCooper, that's way things should be handled ;)
I will probably receive the speed from NATURE ALCHEMIST this week and I'll be sure to report back here.
Glad everyone is enjoying BoyMasters new batch as well, I have not gotten 1 single complaint about it IRL either. A friend of mine who's been using for like 15 years, and usually sleeps like a baby on almost every drug, had trouble sleeping on BoyMasters gear almost 24hours after he used it O0.
When BoyMaster has made his new batch I'll order some of the pure stuff to test it :D
Still can't believe GermanExpress bailed on us just like that, that guy worked his way to the top so quick and had great potential.... A shame :(
On the DiscountDrugs subject, I had ordered a small amount of the Nazi stuff he is selling but not through the escrow system. We agreed on a 50% pay in advance and the other 50% when the product arrived. Although the amount of bitcoins was not that big, I had ordered it almost 2 weeks ago and still hasn't arrived. My hopes on it ever arriving shrink every time I check my mailbox :P Oh well... ::)
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^Just curious, what was the motivation to not use escrow when DD already had a sellers account?? I've seen a lot of talk of selective scamming in his thread lately.
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^Just curious, what was the motivation to not use escrow when DD already had a sellers account?? I've seen a lot of talk of selective scamming in his thread lately.
Was only for a small amount and didn't want to bother him with making a custom listing just for a bit. Yeah, I know..
But I've talked a lot with him via PM and figured I could trust the guy, since I did him a small favor first.
Who knows, might end up in my mailbox anyway.
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Wow, German Express, could be the speed dok ;)
The guy is still here, my bat senses are up - so be a good guy and refund me my 9 BTC!
The only good speed I bought off here was boymaster.
I bought 9-10 grams - not even a speed fan but got into one of those 'must have' missions and got boymasters and those who read my post will know I was knocked over sideways on 50mg then was slightly overdosed on 100mg as my tolerance was way down.
Any older people looking to revisit memory lane need to take care. If BM offers a purer version of the batch that I got then I'd seriously consider testing 20mg - see how powerful things are.
50mg for me snorted (14 stone) was fantastic. Had a ball until the 50mg bomber I consumed hit me.
People think I was making it up or working for BM!
I no longer use speed as its a youngsters game really. You can recover aged 21 but hit your thirties and pop goes the weasel.
Similar to someone here I had a 50% loss in wet speed, was promised a taste of coke!Its UK coke so I will pass anyhow and out the small loss down to experience. I got trusted vendors who are always spot on. For speed I'd wait for BM. Speed is the WORSE drug to buy here. Not sure why. Used to be common. Maybe the chemicals are more controlled I guess. Also, in the 70s and 80s it was common for chemists working in labs to do a bit of overtime. I knew a guy got busted for doing that. Too much temptation working in a place with every chemical you need and hi tech lab equipment so that you could measure whatever they measure to ascertain purity.
On a note of common sense, be careful how much speed you use. I lost the plot way back with speed. No other drug seemed to ever do what speed done. Not so much addiction more just a weekend ritual which kind of crept up.
And one last thing, EVERY good speed I had always shriveled my dick.
But it soon grows if treated nice - like Viagra once its up sometimes.
Not that I need that ;)
Good luck, stay safe and try to get new vendors to send out 250mg, 500mg, coek dealers are doing this and speed is expensive now. I spent maybe 20+ BTC just to find a GOOD speed. Iam being honest here so people are not ripped off. Vendors metioned here, some of them, not answering PMs, short-changing buyers and promising to make it right - that is BAD business.
I'd wait for BM, and I would go for some pharm speed, the prescribed amphetamine, unless that is minus the euphoric speed effect.
Speed without the euphoria is like pizza with no cheese.
I was euphoric on BMs but like I say, the extra 50mg on top of a mere 50mg was just too much for the Red to handle.
And I did have issues with speed in the past. Older you get worse the comedown. That is why there are not many speed users aged over 35+. Good coke has little comedown. Less than MDMA or alcohol. IF used seldom that is. Use enough coke in a night and you will be more messed up than speed users who may snort a line or two but most (I assume) will take orally. A few will put it elsewhere. :D To each their own.
So later. Night shift. Work is slow. Guys asleep, other watching some youtube funny vids. Me sitting in a makeshift office along with some young guy who we have been winding up after he got caught not sharing a joint. We call him 'Bogart' and he does not know why.
Americans will know.
;D
So, the speed situation is same old same old.
Should have kept my gram of BMs and called it Super Speed and sold it for 1 BTC for 50mg. 19 BTC and people would have praised it apart from real users who would feel it but likely be tickled and want another 150mg at least and maybe doing a 3 day speed jig on 5 grams.
Used to be me!
Luck.
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Thanks for the heads up Red. Based on your advice I started out with aprox. 30mg.
We'll see how the day goes. :)
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Priority mail from Boymaster really means priority, I went to the dropbox knowing it would be there, and of course it was. :)
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Ok. I am fucking happy that someone else also wrote about Aspirant Cooper. More than a month before i bought for 12 bitcoins 1 gram of supposed 90% amphetamine sulfate. I asked only to be amphetamie. It is the only thing i care. I know that purities are bad here.
So it waspotent (not 90%) cause i felt easily i think 50mg but that was no way amphetamine. BTW 15mg of 100% racemic amphetamine is enough for me. And 50mg is party time. It was unpleasant buzz and in no way clear headed etc. Made me unable to sleep for 2 days and depressed as fuck. No way that was amphetamine. I actually throw it...
Bu i couldnt be sure because i was sick those days and i thought it may be that. I even tested with reagents and it was the first time i saw a strange color but my reagents were old and quite messed up so i wasnt sure.
I told him that it isnt 90% as he states and that even reagents showed something but i wasnt sure. Anyway he agreed at 50% refund and i give him positive point for refunding after finalize has happened.
Now that someone else also said that i am SURE it was something else. Probably mephedrone because he also sells? I didnt left comment on site because i wasnt sure but i will send for sure now 1/5.
Now for me that is worst than a scammer. Even by mistake which i am sure it wasnt it shouldnt be passed like this. It isnt the money. Anyone can also sell cheap legal chemicals and make money. But i am not a damn murderer. For fuck sake for 500 and 1000 and whatever euros are you ready to kill someone? When u say amphetamine it MUST be amphetamine.
Well excuses will be heard for sure. But truth is most sellers here sell crap that cost 1 euro and not 20 per gram. But at least let it be amphetamine please.
P.S. I have ordered a gram from Boymaster. Havent got it yet. I hope it good amphetamine be as you people say.
P.S. It is obvious that sellers just change names...
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Ok. I am fucking happy that someone else also wrote about Aspirant Cooper. More than a month before i bought for 12 bitcoins 1 gram of supposed 90% amphetamine sulfate. I asked only to be amphetamie. It is the only thing i care. I know that purities are bad here.
So it waspotent (not 90%) cause i felt easily i think 50mg but that was no way amphetamine. BTW 15mg of 100% racemic amphetamine is enough for me. And 50mg is party time. It was unpleasant buzz and in no way clear headed etc. Made me unable to sleep for 2 days and depressed as fuck. No way that was amphetamine. I actually throw it...
Bu i couldnt be sure because i was sick those days and i thought it may be that. I even tested with reagents and it was the first time i saw a strange color but my reagents were old and quite messed up so i wasnt sure.
I told him that it isnt 90% as he states and that even reagents showed something but i wasnt sure. Anyway he agreed at 50% refund and i give him positive point for refunding after finalize has happened.
Now that someone else also said that i am SURE it was something else. Probably mephedrone because he also sells? I didnt left comment on site because i wasnt sure but i will send for sure now 1/5.
Now for me that is worst than a scammer. Even by mistake which i am sure it wasnt it shouldnt be passed like this. It isnt the money. Anyone can also sell cheap legal chemicals and make money. But i am not a damn murderer. For fuck sake for 500 and 1000 and whatever euros are you ready to kill someone? When u say amphetamine it MUST be amphetamine.
Well excuses will be heard for sure. But truth is most sellers here sell crap that cost 1 euro and not 20 per gram. But at least let it be amphetamine please.
P.S. I have ordered a gram from Boymaster. Havent got it yet. I hope it good amphetamine be as you people say.
P.S. It is obvious that sellers just change names...
hey,
it si impssible that you received mephedrone because I havent got it when you ordered. yea, now that I made a mistake once, you are telling me I am a liar ? ??? nice attitude, really. if you didn't want the 50% refund you shouldn't want itand now you are telling its not about the money - right ;) what you received was for sure amphetamine sulphate, nothing else. if there is anything else I could do to satisy you, please contact me on the market. I don't want to be threated as a scammer because I am not! I know, only someone who is guilty is explaining himself this is why it's up to you. you'll do what you think is right and fair
thanks
<AC>
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http://www.anonmgur.com/up/5fcd8ad0f8ab19cbd9237ca694a20e6c.jpg (copy/paste into TorBrowser to view picture)
As you can see Boymaster likes me. ;)
Colour is slight offwhite.
There's a lot of hard crystals, so to chop it properly you ideally need a safety razor blade and a mirror. With a knife and CD cover it's difficult (stupid idea of mine, the CD cover is "bouncy". A mirror or similar is the way to go), with a credit card it would probably be impossible to cut the crystals for snorting (perhaps someone knows what effect you get if you just snort the crystals whole. I assume that for the purpose of snorting or ingesting orally you'd just get a slower reaction when the crystals are not finely chopped?).
It smells nice, and gives a pleasant short lasting sting. I gather the pleasant smell and stinging is probably a typical Pavlovs dog reaction, you recognise the smell and stinging, and you start drooling. ;)
I dosed 3*30mg now over a period of 2 hours through snorting, and I have a slight tingling sensation and feel talkative (as you can see by the lenght of this post).
As per müslix comment, I can say that I weigh some what over 100kg and have no tolerance as I have not done speed for a few years. I think for me, 125mg is probably a good starting dose. But really, people and purety are different. If you start to low you can always go up to the correct dose, if you start to high you're fucked.
IMHO your mood also plays a role as well. Usually I need a lower dose if I am with friends, some good music and a beer. If I am alone I often need more before anything happends, I've tried taking a too large dose under such circumstances as it kinda come sneaking up on you.
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I know what you mean about sharing müslix. When you're in a good mood you always want to share your mood with people. I'm trying to lure some mates over just now, bit difficult on a monday. :P
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Sumasumarum.
Boymasters speed is good quality. I chose priority mail, and it arrived promptly. Good communication, I was slightly stressed about having ordered 2*1g as I figured that the postage would be incorrect, but Boymaster didn't have any problems just combining it into one letter. (I was in a rush to fill out the order form because of the quickly dwindling stock, thus realised after wards that I hadn't done the postage correctly).
I tried DiscountDrugs "streetspeed". Delivery arrived without problems, packaging was good. I'll consider that as a test purchase, as based on the price I didn't expect anything special (it is just 1coin per gram), and frankly it was basicly just a runny nose. Based on the successfull delivery I'd purchase from DD again. So if anyone can comment on DDs other pricier products I'd be interested, anyone tried the nazi stuff yet?
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On dosage, the 120mg I personally feel is the right amount for me from Boymaster is right from the package, ie. not washed. I think the dosages Red is refering to is after he washed it to increase the purity.
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anyone ordered this?
PACKAGE 20 SPEED PILLS HIGH QUALITY 50% REDUCTION
for 5 BTC from someone arigolo
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/282b209a85
I am a bit disappointed with the over-concise description. Blah-blah-blah best speed pills. No pic, no description. Not even a "confirmation" that "these are 90% amphetamine pills, yeah!".
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anyone ordered this?
PACKAGE 20 SPEED PILLS HIGH QUALITY 50% REDUCTION
for 5 BTC from someone arigolo
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/282b209a85
I am a bit disappointed with the over-concise description. Blah-blah-blah best speed pills. No pic, no description. Not even a "confirmation" that "these are 90% amphetamine pills, yeah!".
There is another posting on this in another subforum and they are meth pills, not amphetamine supposedly. So be careful.
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I guess it's pretty hard to get a real homogenous mixture with that kind of starting material. So it possibly might happen that some orders turn out to be slightly different in potency. I don't know how BM could avoid that, could also be the reason a lot of orders a overweight or BM is just an awesome guy 8)
He might just have weighted the amphetamine and the lactose separately, although that would mean twice as much weighting. You got a point there, though, which I haven't thought about. Just received my package from BM today and I guess I will homogenize everything as good as possible before consuming anything, so I have consistent potency in my own "mini-batch".
Actually can't wait to try it. My amphtamine-buying experiences on SR have been very disappointing so far with juergen and imprint selling really expensive caffeine (although I'm still assuming both didn't sell crap on purpose).
I can't confirm any of what you said about 30+ users, only that it's popularity among those really drops by a lot. Its just not the kind of drug that goes well with a decent job and family. That's also my experience, when they do speed it's well planned and they are very disciplined. They know when to call it quits and they keep to that, they never just let it run it's course. What I am doing almost always when on non-therapeutic dosages.
I'm beyond 30 as well and I agree. Most of the people I know who do chemical drugs are doing cocaine (which is probably easier to handle while living a "regular" life) and really dislike speed. I for one find cocaine alright, but it's not a drug I would buy myself. Speed on the other hand I do buy, and when I take it (which is every few months - a reason why I never ordered with GE, those 5g would have rotten here), it's to get things done more quickly and concentrated than otherwise. A good part of BMs speed is probably going to be used for plain fun, though. :)
But it's definitely good to know that this is really potent stuff. Without a tolerance and slightly below average weight, I guess I would have taken too much.
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Well, when I ordered from discountdrugs I saw no negative feedback, only positive stuff.,.. but let it be known here and now, the guy is a scammer or selective scammer. He is now ignoring me completely.
DO NOT ORDER FROM DISCOUNTDRUGS . I don't care if he has other shit that works, don't order from someone who scams in any aspect. The whole "a line of coke" bs and didn't I already reship?
This guy is definitely using too much of his own supply and sending out OR COMPLETELY NEGATING TO crap. Maybe cause he's high and forgetful and scummy I don't know. Just don't give him any more BTC at all.
Fuck that wanker. He sold me some kind of fkn solvent or 1% speed with caffeine. The valium I don't even know, I took 30mg didn't feel anything particular.
Maybe when I have a clear head and not bad stuff going on I will feel euphoria from boymaster so I'll order there again.
It's a fkn state that there's only one vendor on here selling actual amphetamine that works.
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Gave it a shot with MrFireUk http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/e62b656dca
At least after that another seller can be counted as hot or not. I'll update when i got it.
Cheers
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Please please post when it arrives, preferably with picture :) Didn't even notice that guy, doesn't ship to me, but probably could be convinced.
Will do :) i could check it with marquis too, but i don't think that it would make much sense. I think even at 1% active ingredient it would bring the wanted reaction..or am i mistaken?
I checked out this kronos guy (native speaker)... hmm, prices are really nice but the payment methods suck. I'm not that long in the "scene" to know every vendor and his reputation - maybe someone "knows" him and can comment? But i think (as the comments in the thread also show) that maybe it's not a good idea to order ^^.
Cheers
ct
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Received Boymasters package today, am yet to sample but so far everything looks good and very quick delivery. A++++ 5*
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Avoid direct drugs he is a selective scammer!!!
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Damn skinny out here now cant wait for BoyMaster to re list. I am sure we will all pounce hard once that happens. DD went to shit hell did not last long after the big sample good shit sell terrible stuff.... T p be honest you should give up your meth should not be tried attitude. Tiny lines of 20mg of good shard tastes so much better in the nose and the effects are incredible. Long lasting and so much more euphoric. I like good amph and racemic amph a lot but the taste of snorting what it takes to get the right effect for me is daunting sometimes here on the road. Too much cut and sugars of some sort or another. Even a bit salty if you ask me. BM stuff is the best in a long time on here for my tastes but I am anxious to try his uncut version
Hilly
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If boymaster sells uncut speed, buy some Valium for stand by!
His last batch battered me so much I ended speed consumption there and then!
I mean it was VERY strong - my tolerance is not there any more, so I was taken out by 100mg and only had a gram bag of Valium and was way too fucked up to weigh a gram of weed let alone 2mg of powder.
;D
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Still waiting on BM's stuff to arrive
alberthofman's stuff arrived today though, it looks like some yellow goop/paste
I just looked at his feedback, he hasn't been on in 3 days and his feedback % is 38.6
And I scrolled down and 1 of his feedbacks say that the yellow paste has glass shards and there's another 1/5 German paragraph long rant..
anyone have any info about this? feel little too sketched out to try this stuff
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I also got BM's order recently. Just wanted to say here's one very pleasant customer too! :) Earlier product reviews tell everything about the great stuff and I absolutely agree. Just nice we got a fair vendor delivering high quality and seriously potent speed again. Some weeks ago it seemed that it wasn't clever to order from anyone who had active listings at the moment then. Whether they lack trust or product is just poor quality. (Like the pic couple pages backwards: Someone had received kinda... interesting looking amphetamine paste that looked like nasty yellow dirty wet mess, definitely not very appetizing ;D)
Anyway... personally I don't need to hesitate when choosing a vendor to my next order... Hope the patch 3 will be ready for sales soon.
And apologizes for grammatical mistakes and pointless or otherwise incoherent text... Seems that 48 hour buzzing period almost completed, with BM's stuff of course ;D
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NATURE ALCHEMIST appears to be possibly legit, but what gets to me is him selling Super Skunk. There just was a german vendor FORMAT13 or 17 or however he was called, who sold that and turned out to be a Scammer. And in the scam-thread one guy was like "I should have known it when I read Super Skunk! [...] it just couldn't be legit" or something along those lines. Was convinced by the argument, although I cant remember it :) Stuck with me and I get suspicious every time I read it.
NOOO, not again no speed. :(
hi there, i´m not german. about my speed, the first orders are on his way so you can read soon the feedbacks.
edit: the super skunk listing, for now is down. maybe in future gets up again. i´m not a scammer, you will see. and if everyone have any dude just ask!
Greets, NA
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thanks mus
smells off too & no vac sealing? the fuck. flushed.
bm's stuff sounds like it'll make up for it though
anyone know when he's going to reload?
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I recieved BM order. Nothing but probs for this guy!!
I snorted yesterday a little bit on a party and now about 12 hours later I'm still feeling a bit euphoric.
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Another happy Boymaster customer here!
He even drew a little smiley face on the bag! I don't have my scales with me so I can't comment on weight but to me it feels a bit heavy. How heavy is a gram anyway? :o
Twice as heavy as half a gram I suppose.
Last order I got from BM I already had a pretty huge tolerance from meth so I ran myself into the ground chasing the buzz for a week straight and ended up a bit disappointed..... Now I'm recovered and fresh as a daisy I can safely say this is great speed! It's gonna be a pleasant day.
Though I will say the stuff has a funny waxy texture and definitely needs the right tools to prepare it for snorting - as someone mentioned earlier you really need a razor blade.
Why oh why does anyone buy the bullshit 1BTC/gram speed/caffeine on here when BM's is ~5BTC/gram and it is guaranteed to kick your ass? For an occasional user that gram will last a loooong time.
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Hey still waiting for my BM order :) but going to order from that new vendor MrFireUK as i need some gear fast, due to a festival this weekend! Hope it arrives in time :P
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@eryx2k9: I've got the same problem like you and did also order yesterday from MrFireUK, because I need it for a festival in germany this weekend.
maybe it's the same festival :D when did you order from BM? I've got already a bad feeling about costums.
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I did a bit DMTdoodeeLSD's stuff again yesterday. It's dry now and an half the weight, and the quality is meh. :/
I doesn't really get you going like Amsterdope's or Boymaster's, it wears off quickly, its pretty tame. For the price it's not worth it, for that price you can get like 5grams of amsterdope's which lasts a bit longer and feels better, even tho you have to redose at the 6 hour mark.
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If any of you boys and girls are into manufacturing your own speed then I have just stocked P2MP and can offer it in bulk and wholesale amounts.
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P2MP?what is it?I've never heard of this...maybe you mean P2NP(Phenyl-2-nitropropene)?It's possible reduction to amphetamine directly but you need some knowledge and good chemistry skills...If you want to get decent yield.
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Hey there, working on a review of MrFireUKs gear which arrived today. This is just a little heads up. This may take a while since i'm kind of jumpy at the moment :o :P ;D
Short: i really like it, different than BMs - more of a head load, less body reaction like a train. I'm satisfied for sure. I have pictures and a marquis-reaction (i just hope i'll get along, never used an onion hoster..gotta find one ...hey, wait an airplane..
cu soon
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P2MP?what is it?I've never heard of this...maybe you mean P2NP(Phenyl-2-nitropropene)?It's possible reduction to amphetamine directly but you need some knowledge and good chemistry skills...If you want to get decent yield.
Indeed, it's on offer though for those that want to. :)
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Hey there, working on a review of MrFireUKs gear which arrived today. This is just a little heads up. This may take a while since i'm kind of jumpy at the moment :o :P ;D
Short: i really like it, different than BMs - more of a head load, less body reaction like a train. I'm satisfied for sure. I have pictures and a marquis-reaction (i just hope i'll get along, never used an onion hoster..gotta find one ...hey, wait an airplane..
cu soon
Interesting.. Sucks tho he only ship UK-UK and Ger-Ger... :(
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Well, now that I've run out of GE's stuff (which was very, very good), I decided to place an order with MrFireUK. Should hopefully get here by Friday or Saturday. I'll post a review on the weekend. I have high expectations and in comparison to GE's stuff, I am anxious whether MrFireUK's gear can keep up.
Too bad that BM currently isn't listing any of his stuff. I have yet to try it! Will definitely place an order once his listings are back up.
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Interesting.. Sucks tho he only ship UK-UK and Ger-Ger... :(
Yep sucks, makes me dependent on a German to reship if I don't want to put the vendor at additional risk by using a public reship service. And I am less than 150km from the german border, which makes this so ridiculous. :P
Still not 100% convinced, but I predicted that. Have my Shaman powers enabled again :) Get it while it's hot though.
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Interesting.. Sucks tho he only ship UK-UK and Ger-Ger... :(
Yep sucks, makes me dependent on a German to reship if I don't want to put the vendor at additional risk by using a public reship service. And I am less than 150km from the german border, which makes this so ridiculous. :P
Still not 100% convinced, but I predicted that. Have my Shaman powers enabled again :) Get it while it's hot though.
My distance is less than 150km as well.. :P Maybe we can ask GermanExpress to reship for us ;D
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got mrfire uk wizz and jeurgens polish paste on order and will post a head to head review as soon as the fuckin gpo get their shit together
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Hey there - i think my brain is beginning to shut down, let's make this quick :P (Please be gentle and ignore all those bad mistakes which will be there - i know it, i just don't see them anymore :o.)
I'd like to tell you about my experiences with MrFireUk and his dried amphetamine paste. Right upfront i need to say that i'm on BMs gear for about 2 weeks without a break. Tachyphylaxis is taking it's toll and i take about 200-300 mg of his gear in a period of 6-7 hours. Because of this i may not be someone to tell "how much one should do". Okay it's noticed :) On the other hand - if i feel it, there has to be a certain level of phet in it :D
I ordered 2 days ago (just a small amount of 2 G and honestly didn't expect much - i mean, we all are know about the phet on the road).
As said it arrived today. Fast - i like it :)
I have to say that the packaging needs a bit improving. It was easy to see that there was some kind of item in it. Nothing too obvious (short cylindric form, clearly to be noticed when touching). There was no smell at all - it was vacsealed nicely.
Inside the dried paste (dried to the bone..i couldn't find any moisture left), strong smell and taste, slightly overweight. Liked it :)
Here we go with the first picture, this was inside the baggy.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=dd977a23b1752f122c6d1c48e28322fd.jpg
Even though it looks kind of difficult to chop, it just needed a gentle press. After 5 minutes of chopping (i really enjoy this, i think it could have been done in 1 ;D) i had -really- fine powder - almost as flour. As far as i can say (the perception of "white" tends to differ) it was shining white, nothing else.
There goes the second picture - chopped to the max (pic quality sucks..sorry)
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=94ef27bd11dc68e2c16529f00c5431d6.jpg
Okay, because i am a greedy speed addict and was 5 minutes before hitting the ground (as said, tired as hell) and it smelled, tasted and looked legit
i took 90 mg (the amount you see on the pic) and snorted it. Only a bit of a burning sensation, nothing against BMs - lol, there i need a tissue every time.
I was ready for action in about 10 minutes, felt as it should :) I would say, that it hasn't the quality/purity of BM - his stuff is dynamite
and i would take a bath in it if i could. It has this strong body reaction - elevated heartbeat/ you feel your circulatory system doing more than it should, you know what i mean.:) MrFireUks speed isn't that "exhausting". There is an enhanced mood for sure (i mentioned the tolerance, i think my dopaminergic system has lowered it's reaction - so maybe you will "feel more euphoric"). I really liked it.
Feeling in the mood to play ;D :P :o i took a sample and my marquis-reagent. The result is to be seen on the third pic.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c9fb4eb8e307db52d4bb1123a367e28f.jpg
Nice and fast reaction within approximately 30 seconds. Started after 2 secs and after one minute there was no more change.
Okay, this was about 3 o'clock in the afternoon. Now we have (here) about 15 to midnight. In this time i took overall 350 mg. I've mentioned the tolerance - please don't take this as a guideline, i have no feeling for "normal" dosage anymore. I think without good quality amphetamine
(and i call MrFireUks gear a fine amphetamine) my body would have shut down hours ago. I have to say that i'm getting (body)tired (food still is a disgusting idea,though). I'm sure i just could take another hit and go on, but i call it a night (getting at least a "kind of sleep").
...should you try it? Yes, for sure. If MrFireUk can hold this level of speed (and puts a little more effort in packaging :) ) i have another go to guy.
This is my experience. Sample it if you want, there isn't that much to choose out of...
Cheers,
CT
EDIT: Argh.. reading it again hurts. Fuck it, "i foreigner, i not speak English".
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Thanks for your report and the pictures - much appreciated!
Also nice to see that you've done marquis tests (not that I know anything about it, but still).
Now I really can't wait to test this stuff! :)
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There are such mixed reviews here; can anyone tell me who has gas on the same level as GermanExpress, or perhaps even better? Thanks.
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There are such mixed reviews here; can anyone tell me who has gas on the same level as GermanExpress, or perhaps even better? Thanks.
That's how it is. GE's stuff was really good. But there are so many adulterants and different amphetamines that the possibilities of what you can get are endless.
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BM's stuff is pretty goddamn good.
Only knock on it is that my fluidity/clarity of thought in social situations were notably diminished. Kept getting tongue-tied in what I wanted to say/what I said. Could very well have to do with the only half-night of sleep I had before dosing, but i'll give it another go in a few days and report back.
Either way, BM's stuff is legit, and it's the shit - it's the vintage Don Perignon of speed
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Easy there tiger, you just posted your request like 8 hours ago. Wait with your rage till at least after office hours, cause you know.. maybe some peeps willing to ship your stuff are at work and all that? ;)
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hello,
just wanted to let everyong know that I am going to post pics of the products both at on pic. will buy a ez test too and will upload pics with test results. waiting for the packs with testers to be sent. the pictures will be uploaded tomorrow when I have my camera.
thanks
<AC>
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I honestly think about suggesting to forget the pm i just wrote you, but since i'm sure you are talking about a certain fragment of our society which can be found in any nation, i won't take that personally.
You got pm :)
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Muslix, don't give up on this forum.... Have you even been to the other "drug discussion" forums on the internet? They are awful places....
If this will restore some confidence - if I was living in DE I would happily help out. SR in general needs to be based on a strong community I believe, and in a lot of ways it already is.
And to anyone wondering who to order off..... Either wait till Boymaster has more or get some meth. Vendors like him need as much support as possible!
Drugs FTW
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@müslix: I'm one of those German Piefke's. And I'd STILL help you out... Couldn't care less what you think of Germans, but it sure as hell is funny. ;)
I'd suggest you exercise some patience until I've received my gear, sampled it, and then we can talk. But seems someone beat me to it already. Now step out of your victimhood-like behaviour and keep posting more of your crap. ;)
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Oh, and don't take me too seriously. 8)
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BM's stuff is pretty goddamn good.
Only knock on it is that my fluidity/clarity of thought in social situations were notably diminished. Kept getting tongue-tied in what I wanted to say/what I said. Could very well have to do with the only half-night of sleep I had before dosing, but i'll give it another go in a few days and report back.
Either way, BM's stuff is legit, and it's the shit - it's the vintage Don Perignon of speed
Alright guys.Now I'm getting quite jealous.. Keep reading all these good reports on BM's speed.Where's he gone....WANT SOME!!!
Have just about finished dmtdodeals purchase.. OK, but only if taken in quantity .5 bombs minimum last 4 or 5hrs before re-dose and tolerance build up is really fast (probably 'cause I'm a greedy speed lover) and far too expensive for the quality.
.Fed up with people claiming to have the best/ purest etc etc. Been doing it too long not to know what a phet buzz should be! Saving my BTC in hope for BM.....
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Fact is a lot of speed here has been shit. Reviews can be found and I apologise for not reviewing but speed is the most difficult drug on SR to obtain. Not sure why but buy small when a new vendor pops up and beware of 5 gram listings and higher off vendors who bait and switch.
Also, I have used speed a lot longer than most and know my speed.
Everything I got here apart from BMs was total shit.
The worse was UK street speed - a coffee would be better!
And why do not more people buy the med speed? Prescription amphetamines seem to be a safe bet but people seem to prefer the speed made outside of Roche labs.
Any reason why? Are the meds not as euphoric?
I did say BM's was my last speed, that is true as I cannot handle powerful speed anymore! Sad but plenty of other shit out there.
So any calls here on med speed? I see no reviews.
And good luck.
PS Germans are ok people - just that we had scamming Germans, might even not be a German but do not judge anyone from any nation.
Assholes come in all nationalities, colour, creed and race.
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From merck:
Properties: White, odorless crystalline powder with slightly bitter taste. mp above 300° (dec). Freely sol in water (1:9); slightly sol in alcohol (about 1:500). A soln of 1 g/10 ml water has a pH 5-6. LD50 in mice, rats (mg/kg): 24.2, 55 orally (Behrendt, Deininger).
The pH-meter was poorly calibrated and the product ended with a pH of 6.6 and that's why it had some freebase in it. It has nothing to do with the mixer. And as I said it has been worked out and will never repeat.
If you think that it's a lie, dissolve it in water and check the pH, or buy an EZ...are you clever enough?
"BoyMaster said that pure amphetamine sulphate burns very much in your nose, this is complete bullshit but I know some other stuff that burns like hell...mephedrone!"
You should know that the pH of your nostrils is slightly alkaline (pH >7), the difference in the pH of them and the sulfate (5-6) is what hurts.
The rest of your post are only speculations without any proof or valid argument, only bullshit.
"I'm actually already convinced myself it is mephedrone."
Also I'm convinced that God exist and animals doesn't evolve, do you believe me?
Bye
BM
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muslix wats goin on ive totally missed wat goin on with mrfire uk vendor ?
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[...all the shit I got from people here after posting a warning in MrFireUK's thread. After all I was trying to protect exactly those people ...
What? Either i'm loosing it completely or i'm just too stupid to understand your post. Don't get me wrong - i just want to understand what you've written. You were mad about ...what? Then you wrote a warning in the MrFireUk-Thread that he's a ... (what..a scammer, selling shit? Concealing impurities in his gear that i didn't see? ) I don't ask this to attack you but to get lost of the feeling "what the fuck did i miss? Am i killing myself by taking this stuff and by reordering as planned?
And about the German Thing - fuck it ;D
I'd really appreciate your answer.
Cheers
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@muslix have you got proper stuff from AC?can you make photos with amph inside baggie?its hard to see diffrence when compare this amph with meph from AC when both are inside the baggies.
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I just killed my last EZ-Marquis for this. I saved some of BMs stuff and put it in the freezer. Now, that i had taken it out for the test - i couldn't resist to take 100 mg in a separate very special place...it's called a mirror...
In the meantime take a look at the pics (i hate that have to compress them..but tor is so slow..) They are taken max 10 minutes ago.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=5b1b5f958971d9068175ff75f39e36f7.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=94e4f2fdc167bf50fb9fd2f5a62a4ccf.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=30c89e7ccfd3d4deed18a010fcc1b287.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=b355335c6e575f98b463a712fec9c78d.jpg
The best scale i've found in the hurry..
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=112af959e3002ba6f97a79e250743b1d.png
See you,
ct
Everyone who knows what this reagent does can see what this mean. I have to say this was an insanely quick reaction. After 4 seconds the fun was over. I think it's on the far upper end of the scale :p
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@ct2012
I meant, that people were messaging me a lot of shit because of the post I made. Some pretty hateful and stupid stuff. Just went ahead and deleted it, because I was so pissed off.
@muslix have you got proper stuff from AC?can you make photos with amph inside baggie?its hard to see diffrence when compare this amph with meph from AC when both are inside the baggies.
Interesting that you mention this. Left the meph with a friend, now I cant compare it to anything. My mobile cam sucks ass at bad lighting condition, ie now, so making a picture could produce all kinds of colors which will confuse you even more. I had the same thought after opening it though. How do the textures of the powder compare and the taste?
edit: I should probably, start using, comas correctly but I, dont, know, how, this works, in English ;D
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@ct2012
I meant, that people were messaging me a lot of shit because of the post I made. Some pretty hateful and stupid stuff. Just went ahead and deleted it, because I was so pissed off
This was the part i understood :) But what have been your concerns? What kind of possible problems did you try to talk about? For fucks sake - repost the things that you deleted ;D The situation is, that i wanted to order something more from MrFireUK (who hasn't spoken for himself the day his first ratings came in ..hm..well) but now you are talking about something you posted in his thread. That you wanted to warn the people and then you were verbally attacked and you deleted it. I may be speaking solely for myself, but i want to take the things you said into consideration.
Pm is fine too (there is a pm waiting to be answered anyway - or did you delete it with the shitstorm?
Cheers :)
CT
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I just killed my last EZ-Marquis for this. I saved some of BMs stuff and put it in the freezer. Now, that i had taken it out for the test - i couldn't resist to take 100 mg in a separate very special place...it's called a mirror...
In the meantime take a look at the pics (i hate that have to compress them..but tor is so slow..) They are taken max 10 minutes ago.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=5b1b5f958971d9068175ff75f39e36f7.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=94e4f2fdc167bf50fb9fd2f5a62a4ccf.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=30c89e7ccfd3d4deed18a010fcc1b287.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=b355335c6e575f98b463a712fec9c78d.jpg
The best scale i've found in the hurry..
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=112af959e3002ba6f97a79e250743b1d.png
See you,
ct
Everyone who knows what this reagent does can see what this mean. I have to say this was an insanely quick reaction. After 4 seconds the fun was over. I think it's on the far upper end of the scale :p
Thank you ct2012, you deserve a bonus in your next order ;) for the unnecessary Markis sacrifice :P
Now the court is waiting for bonovic's proof 8)
Best regards
BM
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Thank you ct2012, you deserve a bonus in your next order ;) for the unnecessary Markis sacrifice :P
Now the court is waiting for bonovic's proof 8)
Best regards
BM
You are very welcome. And i am really interested in bonovic's results - this isn't mean in a mocking way!
Cheers
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;D
I made my verdict BM - and you know I don't buy speed anymore as yours was a bridge too far and insane stuff.
So I'm not kissing ass for a freebie.
I got to say, had BM been here 6 months ago I would have saved 20 BTC!
Your speed shriveled my dick for 24 hr.
Gave the Mrs Red a break ;D
Anyhow thanks for selling legit speed!
Wish you luck even though I was FUBAR from your speed, so much so that I flushed ALL my speed.
Less is more. Be careful with BMs stuff.
25mg up each nostril burnt for a min then settled into a good old speed session. 50mg more was too much for me. 14 stone. Borderline OD job.
I done lots of speed in the day - BMs was kind of like the good stuff we always got 9 times out of 10 in the 80s and 90s.
Anyone going down memory lane and taking speed after a decade or more of non use then be VERY careful.
Common sense really but we have had speed here that 2 grams would be nothing to take. In the 90s we saw 500mg being the average dose for the night. Taken in the pub at 8.00pm we would be up all night often as not. Not even top grade hash causes a dent with speed.
Finally, get some Valium in also.I had powder, get the pills! If you feel like your too fucked up take 5mg of Valium or amounts you are used to.
Good luck with the speed hunting. For me, I found the tiger!
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when ive got alone amph inside the baggie its like meph rofl when ive got 2 and can compare I can see diffrence wtf
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Nice review CT2012. You had MrFireUK's German stock yeah? I wonder if MrFire can confirm if his products are the same batch from UK and GER?
I am expecting Fire's UK speed to arrive before the weekend, so I'm gonna review that and hopefully upload a picture. There's something funky about being a lab rat, I like it :-) I had dmtdoodee's speed just a week or two ago. My tolerance will be baseline again, so it will be a good comparison.
Having one person compare 2 or more products side by side is really useful. Reading this thread, it's difficult to choose a vendor. Some people might think that posting their own review is pointless, after all, they have already got it. By doing good reviews, maybe we can make it less tempting for vendors to send out poor quality goods. Keep it up folks! Eventually, all the vendors will have top quality.
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hey,
here is nice vid I found :
http://ocrlwkklxt3ud64u.onion/files/1342128554.avi
on the left its mephedrone, on right amph. as you can see there is not much difference in the texture (both are fine stuff). meph is more yellow than amph (if this can be called yellow, I would say some gray) in mephedrone can be seen crystals when you look under light it shines. in amph there are some shinny spots but not as much as in the meph, only a few maybe. thats the big difference between hcl and sulphate. I know, both products look quite similar but there is difference noticalble. will look for some photos tomorrow
thanks
<AC>
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Can anyone tell me what dose is a good one to start without a tolerance with BMs speed and after how many hours it's okay to take a second one without any danger of OD?
Thx for the help
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Snake123, for recreational purposes you should start with 30-50mg, don't take more than 100mg in 24h and you should be safe.
Bonovic deleting posts is very ugly! no no no! it leads to incoherence...
Best regards
BM
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Nice review CT2012. You had MrFireUK's German stock yeah? I wonder if MrFire can confirm if his products are the same batch from UK and GER?
Jup :) It was the German stock and i'm interested in your experiences as well. A test from a person with a rather low tolerance would be quite important.
I thought about the meph-idea. Please correct me if i'm wrong. Amphetamine releases really not that much serotonin, right? It works primarily on dopamin as far as i know. Meph on the other side releases dopamin as well as serotonin.
Let's say i have the chemical reaction of the marquis reagent. It works on a quantitative basis and allows no real statements about what and how much of what (what?lol) is in there. It gives you the possibility to say "the substance i have in my baggie contains XX or it doesn't contain it"
I'm sure it's possible to fuck this test. Only experienced users and those with a certain chemical background would be able to see the differences in reaction/time/ small deviation in color, which would be produced by mixing the drug with ..hm..meph..? Meph shows (according to my short research) a light yellow, which could look like the beginning of the range of amphetamine on the marquis scale.
Empirically deduced, one could say: "the speed is mixed with meph and the light yellow is covered by the amphetamine which is in there too." Those two reactions are happening so fast and are overlaying each other, you would have to watch really close.
Okay..i couldn't say from the reaction for sure that there is no meph in it (at least not with certainty). But i have my brain and it knows exactly how dopamin and serotonin feels. And it knows how the combination feels (unfortunately...damn neurotoxic mixture..). And, to end my consideration, i may have a problem with my dopaminergic system but my serotonergic system is healthy as fuck. The last time Mandy was about 3 months ago... damn speed, lol, all i wanted to say, is that i'm quite sure that i would have noticed a depletion of serotonin in my brain.
Is this reasonable by any means or am i just fucked up beyond repair (no, i don't want to say how much i've taken tonight.. ::) :o )
Cheers
ct
EDIT:
Bonovic deleting posts is very ugly! no no no! it leads to incoherence..
:o muhahaha
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@snake
You won't OD if you do small doses. Do not inject, or eat it. Snort small lines/bumps. The main worry is your fear, you get high, get scared, and that can spiral into panic, fast heart rate, possible heart attack, more panic. I've seen it, people don't actually die, they just freak out, it's not an actual OD, it's in their head. If only they trusted everything would be okay, they would probably have loved it. You will not OD, you will come down eventually, you will not lose your mind, the paranoia will go away, do not run down the street naked yelling that they are after you :-) If the worst comes to the worst, hide under the duvet, I've had to do this on mushrooms before, LOL.
So chop up about 0.1g or whatever, make 4 lines the same size, do one, put it away and do something you wanna do. By setting it up first, you know how much you've done. If you just keep redosing from a big bag, you have no idea until it's too late. Leave at least 45 minutes to an hour to see if you want another. Do the same size dose each time, don't keep doing bigger ones, it lasts hours, so it's building up each time in your body. To be honest, if you feel each dose gives you a boost, doing 2 or 3 doses for the "night" is a good idea. Dragging it out over a 12 hour session is just a huge comedown waiting to happen, keep it short.
When you're high, accept that you are high and enjoy yourself, do something, dance, music, talk rubbish real fast if your friends don't mind, let out the energy :-) Sniffing lines and chopping lines can get to be obsessive, don't get caught up chopping up a new line as soon as you've done one. It may seem like you've waited, but time flies when your flying!
Set yourself a time limit, after 3 hours of dosing, it's probably time to put it away. The fun wears off, you're better off keeping it for another session. Find something to do for 12-24 hours, then drink some booze OR drop a valium, and get some sleep.
Having said ALL that... holy shit I'm not even high.. always do small doses, have some fun, respect it and respect your body. You will be fine. :-)
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Okay..i couldn't say from the reaction for sure that there is no meph in it (at least not with certainty). But i have my brain and it knows exactly how dopamin and serotonin feels. And it knows how the combination feels (unfortunately...damn neurotoxic mixture..). And, to end my consideration, i may have a problem with my dopaminergic system but my serotonergic system is healthy as fuck. The last time Mandy was about 3 months ago... damn speed, lol, all i wanted to say, is that i'm quite sure that i would have noticed a depletion of serotonin in my brain.
Is this reasonable by any means or am i just fucked up beyond repair (no, i don't want to say how much i've taken tonight.. ::) :o )
LOL hahaha. Well, it ain't glucose you've got there. I didn't know much about meph until recently, and didn't expect speed to be cut with it, but it's an interesting idea. I'm not sure if I'd actually like it cut with meph or not.
I don't think the reagent test could differentiate between speed, and speed+meph. Maybe it would go more orange, but I wouldn't like to bet on it. Maybe, if you tested different speed a lot, and actually knew what was in them, you could make some conclusions about the reaction. I think the only conclusion you can make is that it has some amphetamine in it.
Someone on SR is selling street speed cut with pink mdma (as advertised). I mean, WTF?
Anyway I can't be sure from your post, are you saying subjectively that mrfireuk's speed *is not* cut with meph? Because you didn't feel a serotonin buzz? I will investigate LOL.
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Hey guys,
did not read all the posts now but just wanna quickly confirm that the german stock is exactly the same batch as the UK one.
I can also guarantee you that there is NO meth in there. I fucking hate that stuff and would not touch it with a pole .. and I know how it affects you and can say with absolute certainty that my gear does not contain any traces of meth.
Gotta go to work now , will be back online in about 8-9 hours ..
Cheers
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@snake
You won't OD if you do small doses. Do not inject, or eat it. Snort small lines/bumps.
Just wondering why not to eat? Snorting/injecting kicks in more strongly and faster of course, but doesn't the effects last longer if eaten? I've always preferred to eat my speed/amphetamine rather than snort, I'm not sure why. But actually is there any reasons why eating would be better than snorting?
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Just wondering why not to eat?
It's not about the method, but about the dose. By doing small lines you can find your level safely without too much trial and error.
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hey,
here they are :
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=ac42d5c87697279cbc98663763be22f6.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=d80362669a351b1de9751e06fc9aa480.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=229d8315f16767ad8f7ea347488ef7a7.jpg
those are posted in my profile on the market too. check them first, dont be scammer :)
thanks
<AC>
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hey,
here are just my two cents to BM.
My package arrived only 6 days from ordering to a country in the EU.
As stated before the packaging was bomb!
I'm not a experienced speed user so I dosed only 30mg oraly on sunday and was nearly to high to get my shit done! (wanted to study)
Was in a good mood, wanted to text everyone, was chatty and nearly coudnt hold still. doesed at 4pm and it was hard to sleep all night. Was not prepared for this. :D
Definetly some very potent stuff! would order again!
Will try it soon for partying. Very excited!
regards
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Anyway I can't be sure from your post, are you saying subjectively that mrfireuk's speed *is not* cut with meph? Because you didn't feel a serotonin buzz? I will investigate LOL.
Omg... Sorry for that. Kids..don't do drugs :o :P I shouldn't have had these six beer additionally.
Okay, but yes as far i can understand "him" today, this is what "he" was trying to express. ;D
@BOYMASTER (sorry for yelling, but it catches the eye)
Do you have any - approximate - idea, when it's gonna start raining your devils dust again :P ?
Cheers,
Ct
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So I could finally test BM's stuff as well.
I am doing GE's stuff for 3-4 weeks now 100-150mg/day, so I expected my tolerance to be quite high. I weight like 70kg.
I started yesterday morning around 8:00 with 40mg of BE - good feeling, still "low" pulse, perfect condition for studying.
I took another 40mg at 11:00 - my heart starts bumping now, but everything else is still fine and I can continue studying.
I had the desire to take more -bad mistake-, so I took another line of 60mg at 14:00, became horny as hell, but my dick is nowhere to find, my heart is about to leave my chest - no way to continue studying, so I turned the music loud and started playing some PC game.
Around 20:00 I feel miserable and exhausted and go for the couch watching a movie.
Went to bed around 22:00, I think I finally fell asleep around 23:30 but woke up again around 2:00 and fell asleep again around 3:00 until the alarm was ringing at 6:30.
Definitely potent stuff, wasn't expecting it, as I considered GE's stuff as already good. It hurts a little more in the nose, but I have always saline solution at hand, so no problem. And what comes down the throat is actually tasting better as common speed :P.
Will order again, but it will take some time to use it up^^
Thumbs up BoyMaster
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Received my 2g order of Jeurgens polish paste , well more of an emulsion than a paste, after scraping what i could retrieve from with the double sealed pack (had leached into the outer pack) once dried the 2g shrank to about 770mg.
The powder is super fine like flour and smell is somewhere between marzipan and fresh household paint, its really white in color. The initial line of 100mg stung quite bad but nothing like 2c b stings and the burn faded pretty quick, I have to say its pretty good but my tolerance is non existent as the last wizz I took was pharmaceutical dextro-amphetamine over 3 years ago.
The usual Friday scrap at the supermarket was much more entertaining, and this gear made me super confident and cheeky as fuck. Now home and after a couple of vodkas I am feeling nice but with zero physical load or elevated pulse, so basically its good but pricey.
I also received MrFires 1 gram offering, that came dry and over-weight, this has a far more traditional smell like the wizz i used to get in the 80s, its slightly off white and more granular. will be slamming 100mg shortly so will update.
bye
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2x 200mg BM-capsule rofl
100% pure amph probably can kill almost everyone in this thread...@muslix probably this was little OD your experience ...
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With respect muslix, I usually can't really figure out what you are on about, or exactly who's product you say to avoid. You took a bucket load of gear, and crazy shit happened, that is not a surprise. I've dropped in the region of 2g of base speed paste in a night, and after 5-6 hours, all sorts of crazy paranoid shit starts happening. You then draw an absolute conclusion, when it is impossible. You can only suspect something at best.
After all you said on the forums, bad mouthing vendors instead of *politely* working with them in private message, I wouldn't ingest any reship. It's like complaining your burger is cold, and calling the chef an incompetent cock sucker, and then eating the replacement burger. You'll be lucky if it's only spit that's "extra".
Good luck and take care though buddy, I do hope you can find a happier place soon.
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----------------------------------- LONLEY KAMEL SPEED/AMPHETAMIN REVIEW--------------------------------------------------------
Hey Guys :) ,
yesterday i receive the speed-sample from lonley kamel and now i will tell you a little about the quality, feeling, and comedown.
First the packaging: Very nice, vacuum and nothing suspicious to see from outside. --- 5/5
the stuff:
It was a little bit wet, but i dry it and i can assure you definitely lost nothing (nor really not much) when you dry it!
I snort about 25-35mg and after 4minutes i take a bomb with ~40mg.
The rush comes in about 15-25 minutes and i get very high, absolutely no heart racing! :)
After ~3 1/2 hours i get slowly less and less active and i snort again 40mg, that really kicks instantly! :D
I was again about 2-3hours really awake and i really need to dance! ;D
I must say i was smoking weed the full night and that really confuse you ;) , but it was really a nice night!
I was feeling the music very intensive and it was fucking awesome to shake to the beat!! :D :D
After around 3hours after the last line i smoke a joint and go into bed, in about an 3/4-1hour i was sleeping well! :)
The day after was absolutely o.k, really nothing like an head hurting or so, just everything alright ;) .
Today i make again Party with some friends, they also tell me that the speed is very nice!
At the last i can say that i really get no hurt by snorting, so it don´t hurts your nose! That´s sure a sign for good quality!
I can´t weight it because i have no scale here, but it was sure about 2,5-3grams that i get from him for free! A really nice guy!
You can buy his speed, i go and buy it as fast as i have new coins! Maybe the best speed on the road atm!
greetings to lonely kamel and all you guys! ;) ,
Jump3r
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Review of MrFireUK's delivery. Thank you sir!
I can't test products until tomorrow night though:-( This is just a pre-review of basic details, and pictures. So far, so good though.
Packaging: Perfectly fine for UK-UK. Hand written, but says he's set up his printer now. Looked like any other eBay crap I buy though. Didn't smell.
Weight: Ordered 3x 1g speed. Got 3.16g. I tared off using an empty baggie. This is totally DRY and overweight. This is good. Nobody wants to pay for the shit that evaporates.
Smells and looks like the base speed paste I got from dmtdoodeelsd after 25% of it evaporated. Purity can be anywhere though, so we'll see tomorrow.
I also ordered one of his 120mg MDMA pills, with the instructions "I don't really want a pill, I just want to persuade you to send a sample of coke." (I have crystal mdma if I wanna roll). I got a pill, and 0.1g of what I assume is coke. Thanks.
I will test the products on my lab rat tomorrow, he is excited. Here are some pictures:
Speed
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=33896953559919ea8bf93fe00631b0d3.jpg
Pill
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=5a2e78d2462d6b4beb9dd43575269389.jpg
Coke sample
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=5ff449425e5cb1c37013838ea8dbbcc0.jpg
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REVIEW OF BOYMASTERS 2ND BATCH
So after waiting around for about a year for decent speed to come up on the road(I honestly don't understand why people don't read the forums and buy bunk speed from other sellers on here). I finally got a delivery from BoyMaster. I thought I had finally gotten lucky when ordering 5g's from GermanExpress, unfortunately I was a little too late and it seems he went missing just after I ordered. I do not believe GE went scammer as I had offered to finalize early with him (via pm, in which he was always courteous and polite ) and he said not to as his cash flow problems were sorted, if he had planned on scamming I am sure he would have asked me to finalize early and I hope everything is alright with him in his life and he is not in any trouble.
On to the BoyMaster, after waiting two and a half weeks for GE's and getting a refund from SR I ordered ASAP from BoyMaster because I knew he would be sold out quickly. At the time he only had 1 and 2g listings on the road in public and I pm'ed him telling him about what had happened with GE and to my delight he made a custom 5g listing for me (straight away bonus points for someone who cares about his customers). There was no mention of finalize early and tbh even with all his positive reviews on the forum I would still be wary of FE after my near miss with GE (not anymore as it arrived without any problems) not to mention IMO legit vendors should never ask for FE without specific reasons.
BoyMasters order got here with 5 working days, it was vacuum sealed and between a piece of paper in a regular envelope (mods please remove if too much info divulged here). I was really looking forward to the ingenious postage methods mentioned earlier in the thread (with the talk of so much work going into it) I suppose now that he has the vacuum sealer he is not using his super stealth postage method, no biggie anyway the package got delivered fine so that's all I care about. I don't have a scale so haven't weighed the 5 grams but have no reason to doubt its all there. The product seems 95% dry however there may be a little bit of moisture as the large clumps of powder are hard to break up for snorting and seem a bit clumpy. I took an unknown quantity (roughly .75 - 1gram based on total amount of powder in the bag) and crushed it between two smooth pieces of metal, after a while of doing this most of what was there was ground down to a fine powder, still a few chunks bigger than powder sized pieces but good enough for me. Another reason why I think there is a bit of moisture is when I had grounded it to a fine powder when I compressed the bag I was keeping it in between my fingers it stuck together and needed to be rolled between the fingers to turn back into a powder.
My background experience with amphetamines (and drugs in general) is quite minimal. I have done methamphetamine once, mdma roughly 20 times, acid roughly 5 times, shrooms twice (had a bad experience and have been completely afraid of psychedelics for the last two years*), cocaine twice, opium once and am a regular marijuana smoker (roughly 3.5 grams per month, so not a huge amount but was a grower in the past). I have had amphetamine twice before now, once was when a friend gave me a line of good speed while I was taking mdma and I remember it being the most amazing rush of my life. Another was a time in central Europe when I bought 1g of speed and took the whole thing in one night looking for that mystical first experience (it turns out the quality of this stuff was similar to what most of the low quality sellers on SR sell). I had no problem falling asleep that night and was sure I was sold bunk, oh well.
Due to my relative inexperience with amphetamine and the reports of BM's stuff being incredibly strong here plus the fact I don't have a scale I started very easy on the stuff. The day it arrived (a work day and I had arrived home from work with work the next day) I took a line about 1/3 the length of a matchstick and the same thickness. This produced a very mild/placebo effect for roughly 2 hours and I had a good time practicing the guitar on it. That was 5 days ago now. Tonight I wanted to take a bit more (but by no means overdo it, I was with the misses who knew nothing about this whole affair ;) ). In total I took 3 lines each matching the dimensions of a matchstick (any guesstimates on mg amount of this would be much appreciated) over the space of 2 to 2-1/2 hours. I got a good 'rush' about 5 minutes after taking each line and definitely notice alertness, conciseness of thoughts and a general feeling of well being. The euphoria is nothing compared to mdma but it is also nice to have coherent thoughts while under the influence of drugs (I cant wait to listen to some techno and write some code while taking this stuff).
Tonight was really an experiment too gauge the strength and effectiveness of BM's speed, I have drank 6 bottles of beer(corona) and 2 bottles of weiss beer throughout the experience starting from about two hours prior to the first line (unfortunately I am dry of grass at the moment but am sure a joint would be absolutely beautiful right now), I have a few valium and a xanax standing by for when I want to crash (I will probably need it at this stage :D and am going to be extra careful with the alcohol and limit myself to one pill, will probably use one valium to save the xanax for when they are more needed). As you can probably guess from the length off this post the effects are pretty good and exactly what I thought speed on its own should do. Hopefully I didn't come off as rambling (LOL I know I did but I was also trying to be subjective).
Overall I can't rate BoyMaster highly enough, delivery time was spot on, the product seems good and he was responsive to pms, 5 stars and a similar experience I had with 3jane on SR (my recommended mdma vendor). I am sure there is a few things I managed to forget that I was planning to write here but that now slip my mind. Any feedback on recommended does, again I don't have a scale and I know eyeball measurements are useless(but better than nothing). I am sure this 5g's is going to last me a few months as I am only an occasional/experimental user but I would definitely go straight to BM if I wanted to order amphetamine again from SR.
I am planning to do an acetone wash on roughly 1/2 of the quality I was sent (and if this is successful perform a wash on the entire amount) BoyMaster has mentioned that he cuts the amphetamine with lactose and as I do drugs solely as experimentation and not as a habit I figure I may as well have the purest substance I can. I have read conflicting reports on acetone and naphtha being better to wash amphetamine, also anyway who has done a two stage wash with dissolving the amphetamine in water, filtering and evaporating and has any input would be very much appreciated. Kids science kit FTW.
Well I am not going to proofread this again as each time I do I add another paragraph (typical amphetamine effects I assume ;) )
Thanks again BoyMaster you have made me very happy :
*added for context
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I would say 3 matches are around 75mg, but that's just a guess, I did 2x50mg today which seems perfect for me. and eh why would you do an acetone wash with BM's stuff? He clearly only added lactose to make it snort-able at all :P
@müslix chill out man, I bet 95% of the people who read your post where thinking you did an OD, still I would like to know what was the reason. And you don't know if the stuff form your friend was the reason at all.. perhaps it wasn't dextro-amphe but meth or whatever..
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Yo muslix just went back and read your posts and well... couldn't make much sense from them. Man take a few day to chill, eat well, no drugs! get back to yourself and then come here and write about your experience.
Thanks for the feedback stoney1980 always much appreciated :D
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----------------------------------- LONLEY KAMEL SPEED/AMPHETAMIN REVIEW--------------------------------------------------------
Hey Guys :) ,
yesterday i receive the speed-sample from lonley kamel and now i will tell you a little about the quality, feeling, and comedown.
First the packaging: Very nice, vacuum and nothing suspicious to see from outside. --- 5/5
the stuff:
It was a little bit wet, but i dry it and i can assure you definitely lost nothing (nor really not much) when you dry it!
I snort about 25-35mg and after 4minutes i take a bomb with ~40mg.
The rush comes in about 15-25 minutes and i get very high, absolutely no heart racing! :)
After ~3 1/2 hours i get slowly less and less active and i snort again 40mg, that really kicks instantly! :D
I was again about 2-3hours really awake and i really need to dance! ;D
I must say i was smoking weed the full night and that really confuse you ;) , but it was really a nice night!
I was feeling the music very intensive and it was fucking awesome to shake to the beat!! :D :D
After around 3hours after the last line i smoke a joint and go into bed, in about an 3/4-1hour i was sleeping well! :)
The day after was absolutely o.k, really nothing like an head hurting or so, just everything alright ;) .
Today i make again Party with some friends, they also tell me that the speed is very nice!
At the last i can say that i really get no hurt by snorting, so it don´t hurts your nose! That´s sure a sign for good quality!
I can´t weight it because i have no scale here, but it was sure about 2,5-3grams that i get from him for free! A really nice guy!
You can buy his speed, i go and buy it as fast as i have new coins! Maybe the best speed on the road atm!
greetings to lonely kamel and all you guys! ;) ,
Jump3r
I hope this is legit. Lonely Kamel definitely did not let me down with K, so I would hope the same for amph. This might make me make an order....but with only 3 posts this user's intentions could be just that. Sorry, SR has turned me into a doubtful person. Anyone else tried LK's amph and can vouch? Otherwise I will wait for BM to reup.
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Top review tummy bug - glad you found a decent speed. And sure the euphoria of speed is nothing compared to MDMA, E is a different class but speed has its uses. Coding, music, its all good but take acare to take breaks. Easy to get a habit for this but I think you seem sensible and will not be speeding for months at a time!
Unless its for the music.
How are the come downs?
Easy when young to cope with. Older not so!
Good post gave you karma.
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Hey guys bm stuff just as good as last batch,mind warp fast phet fuckin flyin .That sums his speed up my experience with it HAPPY DAYS
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Meant to add to last comment muslix dude take a big chill pill and calm the fuck down man ,your mind is scarin me . :D
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@muslix you never heard of Stimulant psychosis?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulant_psychosis
please read this ;)
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Hey guys bm stuff just as good as last batch,mind warp fast phet fuckin flyin .That sums his speed up my experience with it HAPPY DAYS
After...hm...let's say, another extended test last night ::) i tend to claim that it's even better than the last one, not that this is possible in huge steps anymore, but it seems to be slightly more "mood lifting". The situation at the moment, anticipating Boymasters return and MrFireUks delicious stuff, that's the way i like it ;D (Knock on wood that it stays this way....at least for a while).
Cheers
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**********BOYMASTER's REVIEW**********
Product: Second batch of 70%+ pure amphetamine sulphate.
Price: || 4/5 || Could be a bit lower.
Comm.: || 5/5 || Asked for a favor/custom order. He obliged, but in the end wasn't able to help me:/ Fast, friendly, professional replies.
Shipp.: || 5/5 || I rarely give less for vendors on this aspect. BM shipped my order the next day and arrived fast. Perfect.
Packg.: || 5/5 || Not as inventive as when he did the first round of selling, but completely within SR standards.
Product: || 5/5 || Drier than the first round. Rocky, clumpy off-white powder. Smells like amph. Same day this arrived, a friend came back from Netherland with a big bag of green goodness. Needless to say I got seriously high on weed and then snorted ~50mg. of the amph. powder. Strange feeling, heavy on the brain, but I think I like this. Stoned and speedy for the most of the night. I shared (I promised myself I won't do that. Hah! you can't even trust yourself, Bob) 100mg. between two petite teen girls. For the rest of the night I had to listen to their chatter. About their childhood experiences and how awesome Johnny Depp is. No more amph for them, not until my flat is in need some cleaning. ;) Thing is, when i asked them if they could feel anything they just weren't sure. I could tell they were, but I guess they, like me, didn't euphoria, dopamine rush. All of us did some methylone 2 days back, maybe that's to blame? 100mg. oral last evening (I'm on the tail end 8 hours later, but still no ZzzZZ's. Etizomal taken) for me. I'm stimulated, but not much of being happy or feeling good about yourself. Worries of my life is still present, maybe even more so than when I'm sober. What can I say, it seems about the same potency as the first batch, and this is to say - it's good.
Overall: || 4.8/10 || First time around price was better, it went up a bit instead of going down. Packaging isn't as impressive. All that said, it's still (one of the) best quality amphetamine sold at this time on SR. The lack of stronger positive effects might be my blame. I would buy BoyMaster again and also I would recommend his services to a friend (if I had one).
Question to know-it-alls:
Could it be, that doing methylone/mdma few days before amphetamine session removes (diminishes) that confidentiality and happiness from speed-trip?
Does taking 2 tea-spoons of baking soda 1.5-2 hours before oral dosing amphetamine (or mdma) really make a roll significantly longer?
Thanks for reading. I hope this review will be useful for somebody, and maybe my questions will get answered too;)
Good evening,
Bob Arctor on speed
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Hallucinations are normal with large doses of stimulants especially taken by a few days or even large doses can sometimes even at low doses taken under medical supervision.Try 50-100mg AC stuff and will be no problems, this amph is strong watch out guys...
also some amph metabolism to hallucinogen PMA ...but only few %...
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Bob, in the past month and a half I haven't done any mdma, speed, etc (nothing but weed and booze a couple times a week) and didn't get any euphoria or anything off of BM's gear either. Definitely felt my heart speed up and my mind was racing a bit after the first 50mg line (only did two in all so maybe that's why) but I wasn't any kind of "fucked up" as I sometimes get off of good amp. Not bad mouthing the stuff and I'd probably buy it again, it just seemed kind of one dimensional to me and was lacking some of the speed effects that I usually enjoy.
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Received MrFireUK's gear today! Quick delivery and standard packaging (vac-sealed). I have a feeling it might be slightly underweight, although I don't have a scale, so I can't say for sure. Nonetheless the stuff seems to be very legit, it came in a bit clumpy, but it's very easy to process into fine, white powder. Only took like a minute to prepare. It's too early to judge about the quality, so I'll write a more detailed review tomorrow. First impressions (appearance, consistency, smell, taste) are great, that's all I can say for now.
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First, please note that I'm not actually reviewing product right now.
After reading replies earlier just noticed I am maybe overdosing too. I've taken BM's stuff about 1,0-1,5g since this week Tuesday, quite similar dosages every day. I've started to get unwanted effects after doses and this has happen couple times now. Dizziness, nausea, headache, serious difficulties fall in sleep etc. Anyway these don't irritate me that much. The thing really makes me uncomfortable is that I scare every little scratch or move around me. And I also feel kinda confused. Hard to explain, but my thinking goes too fussy and it's hard to focus when talking to someone.
But I'm not sure are those effects due to overdose. My pupils aren't dilated, maybe even smaller than normal. I wonder have I just increased tolerance and same doses don't work anymore? Actually I'm not sure would I try to take more as I didn't get a good high, or did I overdose already? Today I've remembered to drink and eat something, also slept 12 hours last night.
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@Frosty - Taking speed every day for 4 or 5 days is going to make you a bit paranoid and jumpy and have difficulty sleeping, even with small dose levels. Didn't you read the "side effects" on the side of the box? :-)
I recommend a week off speed and chill out. There are other drugs if you don't want to be sober :) Then after that, you'll enjoy the speed a lot better.
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Boymasters stuff is LUSH
nice strong and decent up the nose (first line always burns like a bitch thou!)
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Here is my review of MrFireUK's speed. Order came just in time :) Planed a bender for tonight! Did not expect the order to arrive today, as i ordered Wednesday and the order was marked transit yesterday morning ( MrFireUK's german shipping guy took a day off , to make up for that delay i received some + gear :) thanks ! ) so all in all it took 24h to arrive ! Awesome fast !
Package was ok, but could be improved ( vac sealing was not proper, had some leak ).
Unpacked, weighted (+ weight), smell and first look were promising.
Started my binge 13 hours ago with an average line around 30-40 mg.
already had 2 beer in my system so i felt a nice rush / euphoria.
So far i have done around 200-300mg, like 1 line / hour. iam in a very good mood right now :)
Will update once i finished my binge, so i can tell about potency regarding staying awake. For now i have no worries it wont keep me up going and enjoying my binge !
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This is a review reguarding aakoven's "DUTCH AMPHETAMINE" speed listing for 2g. I mentioned earlier that I got it and wasn't really feeling much after a line or so. Everyone agreed it is somewhat poor quality. Today, however, I decided to give it another shot because it was just laying around. I had about .5 gram left so I put them in capsules (did not weigh them), but id say about 100-110mg in each one. SWIM was supposed to go to a party and popped 2 capsules of Methylone about 150mg each. The said party got cancelled/busted so SWIM popped a speed capsule of aakoven's speed/took it orally. Couldn't really feel the effects right away but with the methylone it was more of an energetic roll. The speed also seemed to hit SWIM and SWIM's friend about 2 hours after we took it, seems like kind of a long time, but it did work pretty well!
The M1 SWIM took kind of wore off but now SWIM has alot of energy and can't really sit still. Its nearly 4 in the morning! It almost worked too well!
For all those out there who might be just sitting on some speed: Take it orally! I found it works better for me that way.
Cheers
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This is a review reguarding aakoven's "DUTCH AMPHETAMINE" speed listing for 2g. I mentioned earlier that I got it and wasn't really feeling much after a line or so. Everyone agreed it is somewhat poor quality. Today, however, I decided to give it another shot because it was just laying around. I had about .5 gram left so I put them in capsules (did not weigh them), but id say about 100-110mg in each one. SWIM was supposed to go to a party and popped 2 capsules of Methylone about 150mg each. The said party got cancelled/busted so SWIM popped a speed capsule of aakoven's speed/took it orally. Couldn't really feel the effects right away but with the methylone it was more of an energetic roll. The speed also seemed to hit SWIM and SWIM's friend about 2 hours after we took it, seems like kind of a long time, but it did work pretty well!
The M1 SWIM took kind of wore off but now SWIM has alot of energy and can't really sit still. Its nearly 4 in the morning! It almost worked too well!
For all those out there who might be just sitting on some speed: Take it orally! I found it works better for me that way.
Cheers
I have taken a sleeping pill, so I apologize if this just makes it more convoluted and I sound like a dick. So what I got from this review is this 13 post SWIM person had speed laying around (Which I have not found any positive reports on), with no scale, mixed it with methylone, now can't sleep and is calling this a success/good product. Besides the taking it orally, which I totally agree, am I missing something? I think I am just pissed that after the year I have been on here there has only been a couple of actual decent batches (Can't even go as far as to say vendors) of proper amphetamine........what the fuck over.
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AC probably dosnt restock AMPH ... good job noobs :/ and enjoy with coffeine hahahahahaha
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This is a review reguarding aakoven's "DUTCH AMPHETAMINE" speed listing for 2g. I mentioned earlier that I got it and wasn't really feeling much after a line or so. Everyone agreed it is somewhat poor quality. Today, however, I decided to give it another shot because it was just laying around. I had about .5 gram left so I put them in capsules (did not weigh them), but id say about 100-110mg in each one. SWIM was supposed to go to a party and popped 2 capsules of Methylone about 150mg each. The said party got cancelled/busted so SWIM popped a speed capsule of aakoven's speed/took it orally. Couldn't really feel the effects right away but with the methylone it was more of an energetic roll. The speed also seemed to hit SWIM and SWIM's friend about 2 hours after we took it, seems like kind of a long time, but it did work pretty well!
The M1 SWIM took kind of wore off but now SWIM has alot of energy and can't really sit still. Its nearly 4 in the morning! It almost worked too well!
For all those out there who might be just sitting on some speed: Take it orally! I found it works better for me that way.
Cheers
I have taken a sleeping pill, so I apologize if this just makes it more convoluted and I sound like a dick. So what I got from this review is this 13 post SWIM person had speed laying around (Which I have not found any positive reports on), with no scale, mixed it with methylone, now can't sleep and is calling this a success/good product. Besides the taking it orally, which I totally agree, am I missing something? I think I am just pissed that after the year I have been on here there has only been a couple of actual decent batches (Can't even go as far as to say vendors) of proper amphetamine........what the fuck over.
As with a lot of the "speed" on SR, the weaker stuff works better when taken orally because you can ingest more. For most of the shitty stuff sold as speed has at least some amph in it, eating it would get you noticeably higher than the insufflation ROA, at least in my experience.
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This is a review reguarding aakoven's "DUTCH AMPHETAMINE" speed listing for 2g. I mentioned earlier that I got it and wasn't really feeling much after a line or so. Everyone agreed it is somewhat poor quality. Today, however, I decided to give it another shot because it was just laying around. I had about .5 gram left so I put them in capsules (did not weigh them), but id say about 100-110mg in each one. SWIM was supposed to go to a party and popped 2 capsules of Methylone about 150mg each. The said party got cancelled/busted so SWIM popped a speed capsule of aakoven's speed/took it orally. Couldn't really feel the effects right away but with the methylone it was more of an energetic roll. The speed also seemed to hit SWIM and SWIM's friend about 2 hours after we took it, seems like kind of a long time, but it did work pretty well!
The M1 SWIM took kind of wore off but now SWIM has alot of energy and can't really sit still. Its nearly 4 in the morning! It almost worked too well!
For all those out there who might be just sitting on some speed: Take it orally! I found it works better for me that way.
Cheers
And please..."SWIM"? No need for that here. We are all on TOR already!
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On to a more detailed review of MrFireUK's gear...
Skip ahead to the end if you can't be bothered to read all this, but for the ones really interested I thought it's time to give something back to this lovely community. I have been closely following this (and mostly only this) thread for the past weeks.
Putting things into context:
I'm not a very experienced speed user. I just occasionally snorted some lines every few months with a few friends, but I never really had speed lying around in my apartment for a more of a regular use. Well, this changed when I placed my first order here on SR with GE and I was one of the lucky ones who actually received their product. Suffice to say, I was a bit disappointed when my stack of GE's finest was slowly diminishing. GE had made a 2g custom listing (his smallest order back then were 5g) and I have to say I couldn't believe how good his stuff was. Very small lines of 25-30mg kept me going for hours (sidenote: I'm pretty slim and quite healthy, zero tolerance). I had to be careful not to overdo it, as I didn't want to make a habit out of this, so I always took my days off and tried to recover as much as possible - except one time when I was doing maybe 150-200mg during the course of 12 hours or so, which kept me up for 3 days straight. This was just crazy and I even started to hallucinate because of the lack of sleep. Anyway, I guess you can say I'm a responsible user (if such a thing exists). I took MDMA once and besides that I was doing weed regularly but that was years ago. The main reason behind all this was that I was looking for ways to get more work done, even when I was feeling tired or lazy (I'm a coder and have exams in about 2 weeks - still lots of work/studying to be done until then).
Now with the context out of the way, let's get to the product review:
Product arrived yesterday (quick domestic delivery as I had already noted in a previous post) and around 6-7 pm I was finally able to snort my first line after working for 5-6 hours straight. At the time I felt a bit lazy and was about to go out within the next 2-3 hours (had already made plans with a friend). I started out with approx. 30mg and much to my surprise, after waiting for about 30-40 minutes, I didn't really feel any positive effects. I expected my mood to go up and was eagerly waiting for the body load / rush I had been getting from GE's stuff. I concluded that I had probably developed a small tolerance during the past 5 weeks (which is how long my 2g actually lasted).
So after my first line (~30mg) I waited and waited, but nothing really happened. I decided to take another line, this time slightly bigger - around 50mg. I already felt a bit let down, because I knew it would be very difficult to live up to GE's stuff. You can imagine how I felt. Seeking the same experience I previously had off of GE's gear. Anyway, I re-dosed and waited some more... It tasted much like amphetamine, but the effects were very mild. No body rush (which I really like if it's not too edgy and jittery) and almost no euphoria or mood enhancement. By now another 30-40 minutes had passed and I started to get a bit nervous about this stuff, because I knew I couldn't afford another 1-2g's of speed for the next 2 weeks or so because of some financial difficulties. I decided to really put this stuff to the test and chopped up another 2 lines of 40mg or so each. Now I could feel something. But still no body load. Instead there was more of an edge to it. I kept getting a bit jittery and nervous. I wasn't at ease at all with myself. My hands were a bit shaky as well. This really let me down and I was even about to call my friend to cancel our plans. I told him I'd call back in an hour to see whether I was feeling better (told him I wasn't so well, he doesn't know about my little speed habit). Well, during the next hour I re-dosed *again*, so we're talking maybe 250mg or so within 2,5 hours.
To make it short: No body load, no typical speed rush (where you just have to move, listen to some music, feeling "zoned" in, euphoria, etc.). There was a general feeling of jitteriness and unease. My mood went up slightly, just enough to call my friend, telling him I'd meet up with him soon. So I left the house and now I noticed that I was pretty much feeling disappointed from the stuff. I was awake of course, but nothing like I had anticipated. I didn't bring any more of this speed with me and decided instead to have a few beers (actually I had some Radler's which is half lemonade and half beer). After a few of those I felt more relaxed and could more or less enjoy the rest of the night. But I was sure that this gear wasn't half as potent as my last stack.
I went to sleep at around 6am with no problems at all and woke up around noon, feeling quite rested and awake. I noticed that my pupils are still a bit dilated, but I'm just glad I feel better today, much more at ease and calm.
Conclusion:
MrFireUK seems legit, his shipping is quite fast and I think overall he's a person of integrity. But his product, in my own personal opinion, isn't nearly as good as GE's stuff. Unfortunately I can't compare it to any other speed from here. I have yet to sample BM's stuff (cant' wait!). So, be your own judge and maybe order a 1g sample and see for yourself. I'm really anxious to read more reviews on it. I'd love to know if anyone else has had similar experiences with his gear.
Maybe I just wasn't feeling right and it wasn't the right time to do speed? I can't be sure. I'll make sure to keep you guys posted in case the rest (still have around 0.75g, so there's still some room for a reevaluation) of MrFireUK's product turns around this not-so-positive review.
Hope this helps someone. :)
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SWIM got BM's stuff today. What SWIM didn't know was the fact that it was speed. SWIM took a bit of it which made SWIM really chatty and feel good. SWIM's friend also likes it very much, even more than SWIM. SWIM is about to get some more grams of it because SWIM really appreciates the effects.
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Have seen people getting BM's phet delivered with excellent feedback but never see any listings to buy ...Am i missing something??
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Have seen people getting BM's phet delivered with excellent feedback but never see any listings to buy ...Am i missing something??
Yeah, they're all hallucinating ;)
He's currently and often out of stock.
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Ahhh that'll be the problem then ...bugger...!
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Jesus fuck stop with the SWIM already, you're on fucking TOR.
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Jesus fuck stop with the SWIM already, you're on fucking TOR.
Sarcasm.
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Does adderall apply to this section?
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Jesus fuck stop with the SWIM already, you're on fucking TOR.
What the hell is SWIM ??!
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Jesus fuck stop with the SWIM already, you're on fucking TOR.
What the hell is SWIM ??!
Someone Who Isn't Me. Used on clearnet websites that are about drugs, by users who don't want to incriminate themselves by saying 'I used XXX' but 'SWIM used XXX'. Kinda lame and all that.
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Someone Who Isn't Me. Used on clearnet websites that are about drugs, by users who don't want to incriminate themselves by saying 'I used XXX' but 'SWIM used XXX'. Kinda lame and all that.
Jeah, it important to protect SWIY (someone who isn't you ^^).
btw: there is a clearnet?
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SWIM wants to shoot SWIY in the face ::)
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I joined one of those drug forums once but quit in anger after about 7 minutes of reading things like 'SWIM would like to know...' or stuff like 'my pet gorillas best mates uncles cats brothers tapeworm says....'
offers about as much protection from LE as screwing a hooker with a piece of toilet tissue over your bellend does from catching the clap. Not to mention that its more irritating than having a shoal of ravenous piranha inserted into your anus ::)
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anyone ordered this?
PACKAGE 20 SPEED PILLS HIGH QUALITY 50% REDUCTION
for 5 BTC from someone arigolo
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/282b209a85
I am a bit disappointed with the over-concise description. Blah-blah-blah best speed pills. No pic, no description. Not even a "confirmation" that "these are 90% amphetamine pills, yeah!".
I ordered that, seller supposedly shipped last Thursday, will provide a review if/when they come in.
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anyone ordered this?
PACKAGE 20 SPEED PILLS HIGH QUALITY 50% REDUCTION
for 5 BTC from someone arigolo
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/282b209a85
I am a bit disappointed with the over-concise description. Blah-blah-blah best speed pills. No pic, no description. Not even a "confirmation" that "these are 90% amphetamine pills, yeah!".
There is another posting on this in another subforum and they are meth pills, not amphetamine supposedly. So be careful.
lol? Meth is just another type of amphetamine. The effect is very similar when taken orally. You could argue that meth is more potent per dollar spent, but YMMV, depends on the pressing/dosage obviously.
IMO meth pills > regular amphs (including brand-name adderall)
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Not..enough... fresh... speeed.....
That's what's going on! :o
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anyone try lonelykamel's stuff yet? what exactly is "good quality dutch speed"?
too jaded from sketchy claims to even begin to decipher a term so open as "good"
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Nope, hasn't offered to let anyone test it or anything.. Just sits there :P
There is this 1 'review' by a user with just 3 posts, kinda suspicious if you ask me.
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who wants to take one for the team & report back?
nose goes
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Alright I just received from NATURE ALCHEMIST. It looks and smells really nice, packaging could have been better.. It was just the speed vacuum packed not in a ziplock baggie or something like that. Kinda annoying trying to get everything out :P
Anyway, I have just been busy chopping everything up. It was semi-wet, so didn't lose a lot of weight.
Just made myself a 50mg line, it's laying there staring at me.. ;D
Hmmmmnn.. The burn is OK could be worse. Now wait ^-^
Ahh yes this feels like good stuff :D Already feeling it woopwoop 8)
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mmmh this whole speed market seems to be a bit inconsistent .....
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whats supertrips like? or who has the best on here!! just wana know ahha
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c241a4a073
Lol, advertise as *WHITE PASTE* and display picture of orange clay. ::)
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anyone got a review of AspirantCooper? his looks strong apparantly? im in it for the strength btw
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AC review on the way, quite possibly today
@knomo tempt me why do you. nature alch want to start shipping worldwide buddy? or at least to 1 more continent ::)
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Hi all. Tall me pls who of the sellers have good staff. I was thinking to buy 5 grams a "Lonely Camel", please tell a couple of best sellers?
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lol? Meth is just another type of amphetamine. The effect is very similar when taken orally.
O'rly?! :o mda is also an amphetamine, effects are not like amp. just proven your theory false. qed.
(it's also a PEA...)
if you want meth why not buy meth in the first place? better deal for sure.
Anyone else notice this recent shift from interesting and informative towards a patronizing and ignorant paired with arrogant attitude in this thread?! Or is it just me being sober? ;D
I just think that meth-in-a-pill gets a bad rap for little to no valid reason. Apologies for sounding like a dick.
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I just think that meth-in-a-pill gets a bad rap for little to no valid reason. Apologies for sounding like a dick.
Apologies, but that sounds more like you are retarded ???
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Good talk.
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I got MrFireUK's speed last week and tried it on Saturday.
I can't be very accurate because I had 0.1g of his coke beforehand. Unfortunately I under dosed the coke over too long a period. While it was "okay" compared to coke I've had in the past, I think I should have just railed 2 x 50mg lines around 10 minutes apart, then I've had a better idea of the quality of it. I finished with a 30mg line, and it felt good.
Then I went onto speed around 11pm, and would do lines of more like 50mg. Quality was as good as I'd expect. But since this is dried, you get a lot more for your money, plus it was slightly overweight. I took around 600 or 700mg in all, and was pretty much all over the place LOL. I put 300mg in a drink to help things along. Nice "hair standing on end" feeling, was digging the music. Didn't sleep at all obviously. I did another 70mg or so at 10am to see me through until come down time which is Sunday night. Felt pretty good Sunday, not too bad a come down, quite pleasant really.
My natural tolerance has always been high on uppers. I'm usually pretty laid back, while friends on the same dose go completely through the roof and tell everyone their entire life story, so your mileage may vary. Anyway big thumbs up for MrFireUK's UK speed, I will buy it next time I need some.
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from bluelight:
not meph! has no reaction w/ marquis!
MDPV, MDPPP, Methylone, Butylone:
Marquis - yellow
Mecke - red-brown
Mandellin - clear
Methedrone (DANGER! BAD STUFF!)
Marquis - yellow-orange
Mecke - orange
Mandellin - orange
tbh looks from the picture more like Methedrone. would explain the weird interaction with real Amph.
It is a triple reuptake/release/reversible MAO inhibitor. It is closely related to para-methoxymethamphetamine (PMMA), methylone and mephedrone
(i quadruple checked that i got the right stuff and tests are correct)
!!!PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM AC'S AMPH. SERIOUS HEALTH RISKS!!!
wtf...
"Bis einer heult!" ---> "Til someone cries!"
unfuckingbelivable, this is exactly the reason why I dont buy speed for RL friends.
First of all they dont know how fucking strong ampf can be. They would just take the gram and make their usual 1/10 to 1/6 gram line. If it is pure... well .....
Then I hear THIS crap here, come on this is not funny at all.
PLEASE PLEASE IF YOU VEND TRY NOT TO POISON US; PLEEEEEAAAAASSEEE!!!
take care!
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Nice work Muslix +1
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Hey mueslix,
I guess everyone appreciates your work on here 8)
I did send you a message on the main page... you might be getting some real amphetamine soon and I'd be happy if you would post some reagent test results on here as well :)
Cheers
*edit* All sorted ;)
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sorry for the spam, one final post (maybe I'll compile it later into 1 post).
SOURCES / PROOF:
Marquis:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=790db0222e27096c7fbefb61ec68be2c.jpg
Mandelin (right is GE - real Amph. you need to watch the change in color also during first 2 min. went from bright green to this dark green):
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=132b128b0a5795db265a5cc8d9b8b627.jpg
Bluelight RC comparison thread:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/512598-Marquis-Mecke-Mandellin-results-for-stim-empathogen-2C-X-RC-s-amp-more
did you buy your marquis test or did you build it at home?
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@müslix THX a lot! I am glad you and your mates survived that shit.
@SuperCake I read that speed + coke are a bad combo because speed sends out noradrenalin and dopamine while coke blocks the resumption of these which results in hypertension and shit. But I guess you know what you are doing :)
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didn't know where to get h2so4, so I bought from ez-test directly (cheapest I could find). If you have access to the ingredients I suggest you mix it up yourself, fraction of the costs.
I saw some marquis on SR. 5 marquis-test = 40 $ ( expensive ? )
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It isn't worth. I go to the testing center ( drug ) earlier and it's free :)
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FWIW, I got arigolo's package today, exactly a week after ordering. Nice packaging. I railed half of one pill about an hour ago and they appear to be regular, non-meth pills. They have that distinctive speed smell and flavor. Dosage seems pretty decent - good stuff so far! (Afraid that my reagent testing kit is still in a box somewhere since I moved a couple weeks ago, but I'll share the results once I find the kit.)
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Can anyone give a review of SuperTrips speed?
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FWIW, I got arigolo's package today, exactly a week after ordering. Nice packaging. I railed half of one pill about an hour ago and they appear to be regular, non-meth pills. They have that distinctive speed smell and flavor. Dosage seems pretty decent - good stuff so far! (Afraid that my reagent testing kit is still in a box somewhere since I moved a couple weeks ago, but I'll share the results once I find the kit.)
To expand on my initial impressions - I railed another half pill 90 mins or so later. Come up was pretty quick and intense and I was jawing like crazy for about 45 minutes. Then it settles in and is a nice, typical speedy high that makes you wanna get shit done.
Neither logo shows up on pillreports (i have a mix of "Excel" gum and "Baja" boats) and the pills are soft and crumbly.
I have quite a bit of experience with speed that's produced in the same region, and these are up to par. Nothing spectacular, but definitely solid value even at the post-promo prices. Will probably buy again.
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guess it's time to compile a list of shills/noobs who claimed this was good amph.
Put me on there then - when I bought it it was noticeable at 50mg levels, and the feeling was the same as BM's amphetamine.
I stand by what I bought being good amphetamine, but it ran out so I can't do any tests. Shame on him if he switched.
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guess it's time to compile a list of shills/noobs who claimed this was good amph.
Put me on there then - when I bought it it was noticeable at 50mg levels, and the feeling was the same as BM's amphetamine.
I stand by what I bought being good amphetamine, but it ran out so I can't do any tests. Shame on him if he switched.
But you had his first batch, right? Judging from the dates of your posts and since I was one of the first who received the second batch... This doesn't match up. Also I have no idea how experienced you are, but I guess it can be mistaken for real amp.
Anyway, no offense to you really, but you are some stranger who says he got good stuff once. And I provided proof that what he sells now is not Amphetamine. Everyone can make up his/her own mind on that. That's just the facts, no way around them.
edit: we already have a winner here, by far: bm. now check what reviews that generated and then compare that to AC's gear. First and second batch. Just statistically speaking, one might find something strange when looking through those and especially the amount of reviews on each side.
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Yeah but BoyMaster is a class on his own :) Can't wait for him to restock and try the pure stuff.
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Yeah but BoyMaster is a class on his own :) Can't wait for him to restock and try the pure stuff.
Yeah, and he is the undeniable king here. If my guess where he sources this stuff is right, then he will stay unbeatable for a while. Haha and I was thinking that cutting his gear was a bad idea. We would have needed a direct connection from SR to an ER :)
I'm witing for some FireUK stuff to see how it holds up. But I guess I'll switch to valentinesmith's tactic. Buy enough BM so it lasts until his next batch :)
Again: AC vs BM: Just check out what an incredible rep BM built up since his last batch. Compare that with AC.
edit: about BM... I was also very skeptical about his gear, some trusted users recommended at least gicing it a chance, what I eventually did and I turned my opinion 180deg. Now I am one of his greatest fans.
edit2: some smartass said I'm badmouthing vendors, that's technically not correct. I am badmouthing the product, I tested. Nothing else. It's now the vendors responsibility to provide a valid explanation and handle this properly. If he doesn't then it's up to the reader to form an opinion on that vendor. For me personally such a warning is way more important than some BTC refund. But I guess different people have different values. If less people would do those silent agreements with vendors, we would discover this stuff much quicker.
edit2: I only talk shit about a product if it really deserves it, then I basically never talk about it again to avoid giving it attention. I do try to hype the good stuff tho. After all this is a review thread so it's exactly the right place.
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Too bad I won't have access to the FireUK stuff.. When summer holidays are over I must try someone in the UK/Ger to send some my way ;)
As for BoyMaster.. I had the honor to be his first customer.. I think I'll probably also be his last :D Absolutely love his gear, funny how a lot of people were sceptical about it. Even in real life, people who I gave the BM stuff were like.. Wtf this isn't white this is crap ??? But after 30minutes they all wanted more 8)
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Hmm... it was really in the beginning when he had discount prices to start up too.. I wouldn't know for sure.. about 2.5-3btc/gram?
Well I sure hope that prices won't be as high now.. with them insane BTC rates. 5 BTC would be almost 50$ now.. That's AC prices :P
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Yeah I think so too, hope his fame won't rise to his head like we've seen happen too often! :(
Decided to put NATURE ALCHEMIST's speed to the real test (and not just a small tester line :P) A little over 200mg down the drain (nose) so far and I say this stuff is pretty decent/average.. In my opinion not worth the money because it's quite expensive. 18$/gram if you buy 10, 24$/gram for 2.5.
My advice to NATURE ALCHEMIST, lower your price.. The gear itself is not bad.. but certainly not worth this much :)
Still thank you for letting me buy a smaller amount, but if you really want to make a name here you've got to lower it.
I'm quite curious for the test results you're getting from the lab.. I hope you don't boost them too much ;)
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Hello buddies!!
We'll be up in the game again pretty soon! I guess that in the first week of august will take place the beginning of a never-ending flow of speed!
As for the prices, they are adjusted to Euros so it doesn't matter if btc goes up or down. They will be the same but adjusted to the quality offered.
Thanks to all our buddies and happy customers for your support and understanding. Greets!
BM
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Thanks Knomo, good to know! I didn't order from NATURE ALCHEMIST because I thought his gear was way overpriced. I kind of hoped he might have been a reappearance of GE. ;)
@BM: Awesome! 8)
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Thanks Knomo, good to know! I didn't order from NATURE ALCHEMIST because I thought his gear was way overpriced. I kind of hoped he might have been a reappearance of GE. ;)
It's definitely not GE's stuff, there's a big difference.. You notice it right away when taking it, different smell etc :)
But like I said, the stuff is not bad. If you're looking for some stuff you can give everyone without having to watch over them not to take too much, this is the right gear :)
If he would lower his price, that would be perfect.
And for BoyMaster, great! Can you give any indication of the pure amphetamine price/gram?
Also, why don't you apply for Silk Road vendor status? I think if you send a PM to DPR he'll fix you right up :) You deserve it really.
I've been +1'ing you as much as I can, but BoyMaster deserves a much higher karma level then the one he has now.. So everyone who can give karma, throw some at him! :P
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@mueslix
Wtf, thank you for that. I'm really interested in an explanation for selling shit dangerous as fuck to us. I guess it has become a basic necessity to test the gear you buy.
Speaking of those little glassy advisors: This is to you MrFireUK :)
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=93cb5e307a9b63cb4bef1809359f54b3.jpg
And yes - i need to buy a better cam 8)
@BM: ;D :P
Cheers,
CT
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I've no btc atm but want to get a move on on getting some so I can jump on boymaster's gear when he restocks. What prices am I looking at, just to know how much btc to buy?
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tried AC's stuff for the 2nd day today, as my first experience yesterday was so fucking bizarre I couldn't make heads or tails of it.
I wrote out exp reports for both days now but I decided to hold off posting it. I will try it again tomorrow and see if I'm just being a compete idiot but all I can say is that it's been beyond fucking bizarre so far, not what I was expecting.
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I just wanna apologize to Boymaster for claiming that his speed was mephedrone or a mix with some sort of mephedrone-like designer drug.
In all the months I've been here on Silk Road there was and still is so much scamming going on, one of the downsides is that it has made me perhaps far too skeptical in a way that it starts to effect your judgement.
In hindsight, it was not fair of me to do that and it was based on speculations so I'm really sorry about that BM.
Regards,
bonovic
(yes this is a ghost account)
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Just home from foreign parts wiped with jet lag....MrFireUK order waiting on the mat so had to sample..Can't find my scales so took a 'pea' bomb about 0.3 i guess, as I''m used to paste..dozed off until.40min later....MORNING WORLD!!
Nice!!!! maybe just another dab......2hrs later.. unpacked, house cleaned, paperwork sorted...ooh look shiny.........!
...Best UK speed so far...
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You are welcome bonovic, don't worry ;)
Cheers
BM
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@BM
is it really mephedrone. im have not that much expierience with speed but it feels good for me. And all your rewievs are good.
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?! Can't you read?
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Hi SR community!! Newbe with serious interest in Amph here.
Would like to ask question to the "Routiniers"
background: bought speed BASE PASTE from vendor on SR but I think I fucked up because I let it dry in room temperature 24hrs. When taken - almost no effect though supposed to be strong (that what they all say isn't it :) )
My Question: What is the ideal way to treat this form of Speed after receiving? Freezer? Processing? I really would appreciate your help. I know its a little off topic, but this is such a good thread with many experienced people...
Please forgive that I do not disclose vendor for now because I think lack of effect is my mistake
@BM: any update? can't wait to order from you :)
Cheers
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Let me guess, you ordered from DiscountDrugs?
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Speed doesn't go 'inactive' after so many hours of drying.. If it doesn't work when dried it's just bunk.
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How many days, months (years ?) can I keep speed ?
In the freezer or on a cold dark place ?
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I usually buy enough speed for ~3months and keep it in the freezer.. Don't notice any loss in potency over those 3 months.
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Thx Knomo and Müslix! So I did no mistake.
@ Knomo no mate i did not buy it from DD. I have ordered Marquis but it has not arrived yet, will keep you updated.
aside BM who seems out of stock, who is your fav vendor now?
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Thx Knomo and Müslix! So I did no mistake.
@ Knomo no mate i did not buy it from DD. I have ordered Marquis but it has not arrived yet, will keep you updated.
aside BM who seems out of stock, who is your fav vendor now?
In the first days of august BM will be back.
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As a person who can get Dexadrine 15mg 12 hour extended release legally, I was wondering how much these goods would be able to get here. at the end of last year costs of these drugs skyrocketed because of some sort of quota that the US has made. It started at $40 bucks for a bottle of 30 pills. then jumped up to 60.. then 100. Now the cost of generic is $240s last time I priced it. I was wondering what the average price of such drugs would be here. If anyone could please give me a idea.. drop me a note here.
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Who of the vendors do you guys recommend if i want to buy speed around 30-50 grams. I want at least something that doesnt require half a gram dosage to give decent effect. As i have understood from reading earlier posts is that BoyMaster seems to have the better quality and i should stay away from DiscountDrugs stuff. But does Boymaster sell quantities of 30/50 grams? I have not been on here so long so i have missed him out when he has had stock but i guess he will be back sometime again. After reading through the last 20 pages of this thread it seems like he is the only one with good quality.
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Who of the vendors do you guys recommend if i want to buy speed around 30-50 grams. I want at least something that doesnt require half a gram dosage to give decent effect. As i have understood from reading earlier posts is that BoyMaster seems to have the better quality and i should stay away from DiscountDrugs stuff. But does Boymaster sell quantities of 30/50 grams? I have not been on here so long so i have missed him out when he has had stock but i guess he will be back sometime again. After reading through the last 20 pages of this thread it seems like he is the only one with good quality.
If you come from UK or GE, you could probably try MrFireUK's stuff.
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Today is the 15th day of my epic study marathon, fuelled by BMs speed, multivitamins and proper food. Tolerance is through the roof (I take single oral doses of ~200mg two times a day) but I'm working through weeks of hard-to-learn material in only days. As far as I can tell, the material I'm producing is pretty high quality stuff.
It's starting to take a toll on my body though, even though I've been trying to eat OK I've lost around 1-2kg. I definitely don't enjoy waking up. Due to an unforeseen shortage of effective sedatives (all I have is lorazepam) my circadian rhythm is a bit fucked. I'm sleeping around 03:00-12:00, so at least I'm getting a full "nights" sleep. Will be going to the pharmacy today though, to get me something non-benzo to sleep on.
I have 15 days left until deadline and a very tight day-to-day schedule. Any tips on harm reduction for the remaining days? :)
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Whoa I am studying on speed for 4 weeks now and I am doing like 2x60mg of BM's speed nasally per day. I usually start around 9-10 am, second dose between 2-4 pm, going to bed around 0 am without any sedatives, 2-3 beer perhaps ;D. Effective working 7-8 hours I guess. Mostly eating bananas, sushi or thai food, drinking like 3 liter water/day.
Apart from that I am taking a St John's wort medicament called Felis 650 a mild antidepressant to raise mood in general, apart from that I have read that people use it to recover from excessive mdma consume, getting first time highs afterwards - we will see about that^^
I would have finished my studies long ago, if I had started like this from the beginning..
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Whoa I am studying on speed for 4 weeks now and I am doing like 2x60mg of BM's speed nasally per day. I usually start around 9-10 am, second dose between 2-4 pm, going to bed around 0 am without any sedatives, 2-3 beer perhaps ;D. Effective working 7-8 hours I guess. Mostly eating bananas, sushi or thai food, drinking like 3 liter water/day.
Apart from that I am taking a St John's wort medicament called Felis 650 a mild antidepressant to raise mood in general, apart from that I have read that people use it to recover from excessive mdma consume, getting first time highs afterwards - we will see about that^^
I would have finished my studies long ago, if I had started like this from the beginning..
How is it possible for you to sleep at 0 am without any sedatives? I can only sleep 12-18 hours after the last dose.
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How is it possible for you to sleep at 0 am without any sedatives? I can only sleep 12-18 hours after the last dose.
I can confirm what stoney1980 said, it depends on tolerance and dosage of course. When I do stuff like that, I usually take dexedrine and my rule of thumb is: no later than 3pm for sleep w/o benzos.
and btw: alcohol is a sedative ;)
Okay, you're right.
My rule also. I feel like shit the next day when doing speed late. Otherwise I feel pretty good the next day and the days after.
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edit2: TIL Johanniskraut == St John's worth. I always thought St John's is some sort of med that contains the J-kraut and is used synonymously. Like Aspirin and ASS.
no idea had to use a dictionary to even find out its called St John's wort ^^
How is it possible for you to sleep at 0 am without any sedatives? I can only sleep 12-18 hours after the last dose.
what müslix said and for me personally it has to be dark outside for me to sleep on speed. When I return from a party,where I did speed, in daylight I don't even try to sleep anymore. And actually I never did any sedatives in my whole life, well weed and alcohol^^
Apart from that it simply differs from person to person. I know a guy who claims to do speed for 12 years in a row like daily.. that guy could sleep 2 hours after he took a line in a fucking train..
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I use chewing gums to care for my teeth (+mouthwash and brushing) since most dental problems from amphetamine use are due to dry mouth and bruxism. Chewing gums take care of both :). I like the idea of getting a proper medical mouthwash though!
Another thing I do is I set a couple of alarms on my phone, so that I remember to eat and drink something like every two hours. Fruit, protein shake, or real food.
Benzos are not very good at inducing sleep in me. They make me relax but I need to take a lot to actually get tired. Also they are not something I like to take regularly due to the accumulative effect and decrease in sleep quality müslix mentioned. Then there is the obvious risk of physical dependence.
I went to the pharmacy to pick up some propiomazine that I have a prescription for. For me it's a real gem, it's an antihistamine that absolutely knocks me out even if I've taken amphetamine only a few hours earlier. Doesn't mess up your REM sleep or give you a lot of morning after-groggyness. Antihistamines doesn't work for everyone, but if they do they are relatively benign compared to the alternatives and very easy to get a prescription for. Just don't use the OTC crap :).
Don't know why my tolerance has gone up so quickly, I guess it might be an individual trait. I normally don't snort (when studying) since I think it gives a more uneven buzz that doesn't last as long, but on the other hand it requires lower doses. Could be that I'm studying 12+hrs a day and the fatigue takes higher dosages to fight off.
Well, despite the length of this post I have yet to take anything today :). Keep the good ideas coming!
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Why do you take high doses like 2 x 50 mg per day to study. Why don't you get up at 6 am, eat something , showering etc.. and start learning with amphetamine at 7.30 am - 8 am with a dose of 50mg ( it might lasts 6-10 hours )? then it's 18pm, the buzz / flash / concentration is over, eat some dinner and watch tv for example, after all that you go to bed at 22 - 23pm (enough sleep for studying).
I think when you use it like that you don't have to take some benzos ( addictive stuff right? )
Just my 2 cents.
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Flyerz: I intend to get my sleep schedule back on track starting tonight :). It got messed up because I forgot to fill my regular (non-benzo) prescription and just took what I had lying around to sleep.
With my current tolerance 50mg doesn't really do anything. I think 200mg now is about the same as 50mg when my tolerance is at baseline. Also, for me the effects last for 3-5 hours rather than 6-10 hours (even without tolerance).
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I feel ya Valentine, spend the last ~5 weeks studying my ass off too.
Had help from GermanExpress's gear so pretty obvious that I passed everything like a baws 8)
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Am new to the speed market..but i have decent speed for a good price.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/da8e0d2abf
PD ;)
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Can anyone remember the vague sort of prices BM charged per gramme (in euros)?
Very much looking forward to his restock
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Am new to the speed market..but i have decent speed for a good price.
PD ;)
joy.. so you sell the same bunk quality as aakoven right?
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Hey guys, boymaster speed will be back at start of august?
is there any vendor selling now? has anyone tried the.. french guy who sells white speed paste that in the picture is orange?.. lol wtf.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/97aa0965a7
the only "pastes" ive gotten from SR have been pure shit/bunk....
man bitcoin prices gone from fkn $5 to $8.8!? crazy. are vendors adjusting prices?
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I find lorazepam to be about as hypnotic as alprazolam, but it's still my favourite all-around benzo. It gives me a very mellow buzz without making me feel sedated (unless I overdo it) and it's longer lasting than alprazolam.
I've had some experience with the Z-analogues (at least zolpidem and zaleplone) and they don't make me sleep either. Quite the opposite; most times I end up smoking a joint and staying up late instead of going to bed.. it's actually very enjoyable. That being said, I'm pretty sure the z-drugs have at least the same potential for addiction as regular benzos, maybe even more. If you want to try one I recommend zolpidem, as it's the most common (= cheapest) of the three.
By the way, the half life of propiomazine is around 8 hours.
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is there any vendor selling now? has anyone tried the.. french guy who sells white speed paste that in the picture is orange?.. lol wtf.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/97aa0965a7
isn't it more logic that it's at least partly also a lighting problem? I can hardly believe the paste is really that orange as it looks on the photo.
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yes it's a problem with the white-balance of course. but what does this picture tell you about the professionalism and the effort put into this? i get it right with my cell phone.
still hoping it's not bunk, still not believing it's not bunk.
Yeah, on the other hand it might be the blue (or is this white, too?) underground that shifts the color a bit. And last but not least - the vendor said that it's white. And it's good. And it's the same as AA .. but in like.."good". Lolwut.
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I'd stay away from all the vendors who look like they could possibly be connected to aa (not because I dislike him, but because he sells bunk). Personally I wouldn't order speed from NL here at all. I guess most other stuff is fine, but amp from nl is a big no-go for me.
Yeah but I think it was also mentioned before somewhere in this topic that it's really a seller issue not a product issue, I know for a fact that nl speed can be very good/excellent quality. Amsterdope's stuff is pretty decent but lacks kind of in the euphoric department probably because the purity is on the low side.
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i agree,
vendors can you please adjust your prices due to the bitcoin spike
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There's a couple of new small articles on saferparty.ch (german only), one is called 'Amphetamine Paste - Facts and Myths'. Good read, compiles info of drugtests in CH. There's nothing in there that hasn't been mentioned here and repeated over and over again.
link: http://saferparty.ch/warnungen.html (german)
TL;DR:
- there's no amp (free)base being sold. it doesn't make sense and test results prove it.
- there's no real paste being sold. paste in it's chemical sense being freebase mixed with salt(s).
every single paste analyzed, was just an amp-salt cut with a solvent.
- the word 'paste' is used to create the impression of good, clean, fresh speed. Not the case.
- avg. purity is 18.9% (of amp-salt)
Nice info, I will also put that freebase/sulphate post online again this week. (still have to edit it but I've saved a pre-version of it on my disk)
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Don't knock on Amsterdope's stuff. Sure you have to take twice the amount of good stuff like Boymaster's and yea it's pretty much over after 6 hours, but it gets your adrenaline going, heart pounding, happy and ready to do stuff, so pretty much speeding really nicely. Also it doesn't clump so that's convenient.
It's better than DMTdoodeeLSD's for sure. Not gonna buy that ever again. Whenever I have to buy again and am not able to get 5g from BM, I'd just buy 10g from Amsterdope for the same price.
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Nice info, I will also put that freebase/sulphate post online again this week. (still have to edit it but I've saved a pre-version of it on my disk)
There's another one that might be interesting. it lists the most common diluents/extenders (Streckmittel, what's the correct translation?) used in speed. doesn't really need a translation, just look at the pie chart. First bullet point "ohne" means "without", but I think they actually mean without any psychoactive diluents/extenders (like lactose, etc).
http://saferparty.ch/tl_files/images/download/file/Warnungen_PDF_2012/Amphetamin_Streckmittel_2011.pdf
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Not a great deal of reviews on MrFireUk's speed on the forums but there seems to be plenty of good feedback on SR and the few here on the forums are positive. :)
@ müslix and/or Knomo, any of you guys placed an order with him?
Think I am going place a small order now to test it out, will post the results here ;)
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Ok good info. I wish aakoven and discountdrugs were banned from selling "speed". Can't comment on the others. Don't know who mrfireuk is.
Seems like no sellers make adjustments for bitcoins basically doubling in value :/ The prescription section is hilarious.. it's like average joe has gone onto any of your major pharm sites, ordered a bit then listed them on SR for 3-4x the cost. What a joke! I'll never buy script meds on SR the prices are just ludicrous and it's easy enough to get elsewhere. I mean wtf, $22 usd for 10mg etizolam?? they're like 5-6usd for 20mg and etizolam isn't even scheduled. Jesus.
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Thanks müslix +1
You and Knomo are like this forums amphetamine barometer. 8)
@ohnoes123 I buy diazepam on here because I find those online pharmacies to be a pain in the arse, here I can get them shipped within my own country by someone reliable like Black Tuna Gang or UKsales and I can order small amounts as I only use them rarely. I don't know why all sellers don't hedge their prices though, perhaps there is some cost implication I am not aware of. :)
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Want to start by saying hello to everyone :)
I've read all the pages in this thread. And concluded that Boymaster is the one I want to buy from.
He aches to have run out of his right now. Who has the second best dope = (Speed) here at SR?
Thought buy 20-25 g, if price is right and just as important that it is not meth or crap.
Need your help!
ONLY YOU WHO MADE ORDERS.
sorry for my English.
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Tjacksugen; if I were you I'd wait till BoyMaster has a new batch (which should be in about 1-2 weeks) and then buy :)
@ müslix and/or Knomo, any of you guys placed an order with him?
Nope, he doesn't deliver to my country! Too bad, because his reviews are promising :D
Thanks müslix +1
You and Knomo are like this forums amphetamine barometer. 8)
Well I sort of feel obliged to share my knowledge about this substance and educate the masses as good as possible, because we don't want to be fooled by AAKoven who happens to be on the nr1 spot for selling amphetamine because the sheeps buy from him.
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@Tjacksugen - If you are in the range of MrFireuk, try him. His stuff definitely does the trick.
@Müslix - thx a lot for those links, really informative, enjoyed the one about "urban myth paste" the most. :)
I'm about to receive another order from MrFireUk, let's see if quality stays consistent (although i think it will). Right now, FireUk is my to go guy. I really hope that he and BM (when he comes back from the kitchen ^^) will hold onto their quality standards.
Cheers,
CT
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1st order with aakoven, 10g speed, did not show up, after about 3-4 weeks offerred a 50% refund (which is good but fucked my perfect stats)
Think jurgen will be my next try, if i can just find one damn half decent (always in stock supplier - non NL) they would get a fuck load of business - it was supposed to be GE but he pulled a lovely cunts act now didnt he ::)
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i liked juergens speed. yes, a bit too wet so it looses weight, but still good for the price. sold some of it to my friends and they loved it. altough i live in a country where speed costs 50€ per gram on streets and most of it does not even work. seriously, people sell shit that you can take up to 1 gram and only have a slight buzz.
already ordered some from lonelycamel as well, should arrive soon. will post review once i get it.
also, where is speeddoktor? he had pretty decent stuff from time to time but i have not seen him in few months?
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edit2: shit, while writing this I didn't realize that I drank 2/3 of my glass of water. toilette here I come again :X
Take an antiemetic! You mentioned you have hydroxyzine at home, that might do the trick. It works wonders for opiate mediated nausea at least. There's nothing like solving one drug problem with another drug :).
Check out the wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiemetic
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Wow muslix mate that sucks :o
Let us know what you find after washing it
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WTF? Müslix - i'm so sorry to hear this. How much have you taken of that stuff in a row that you went through such a shitstorm?
I'm don't use caffeine that much in the last months and take about 1 G of FireUks gear every evening for about 2 weeks. I never had to experience this kind of reaction. I sure as hell don't write this do depreciate your post. I actually don't get it - i've taken a lot of speed during the last months (incl. BM just to show, that i know how speed has to feel) - and the amount of caffeine that i would need to feel the nasty side-affects of it should be pretty low..i should have noticed the same OD.
Today i received the third order from FireUk..and i'm not happy as fuck as i used to be after the last times. It was slightly underweight (9,8 - scratched the baggy to have an exact number), not as dry as it was the last times (took about 0.5 G and dried it to the bone - result were 0.4 G, i.e. a "loss" of about 20%, calculating with 10G Order we are talking about 2 G..well, okay). I'll test the stuff during this evening and tell you about tomorrow.
And to you müslix (you know why..) i'd like to emphasize again, that i'm really sorry.. :-[
regards,
ct
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@müslix That really sucks. How much put you through that?? Do you drink coffee or tea regularly or do you have no tolerance to caffeine?
I am also wondering if anyone with some experience has tried Lonely Kamel's speed or this new seller BrainDeal's speed and can give me a review. I am definitely going to wait for BM but in the meantime are any of those cheap alternatives worth it? I have a feeling its not going to be that great at such low prices but I haven't seen any reviews. Thanks.
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Been talking to Amsterdope and seems like hes my goal atm.
Going for 25 G from Amsterdope , so can any one say its ok to go? hes trusted vendor?
Going to place a order tomorrow :)
Couse Germany is close to Sweden,
my plan is to sell 25 and order 50 sell it and order 100-200 in small shipments.
If he do well ofc.
been doing my speed for 11 years now and i know good speed. Gona test it, clean it and make photo here.
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Shit, müslix. Sounds terrible!
Seems after all I wasn't the only one here who hasn't had the best experience with his speed. I gave it another try the other night and it didn't really uplift me nor give me any body high or some sort of a rush. Maybe my 1g order had been cut with lots of coffeeine as well, who knows. And maybe that's why it didn't have any positive effects on me. I'm a regular coffee drinker tho, so I assume it should have nothing to do with it. I flushed the rest I had down the toilet after my weird experience with it. In retrospect, I should have washed it... Another time. :) Have yet to learn how to do it properly.
Well, either way, my hopes currently are on BrainDead - who was kind enough to let me sample his speed (waiting for his delivery right now) - and of course, the return of the BMaster.
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I really start to wonder why i'm not affected in a negative way by his gear. I mean, i clearly notice the effect (and it's not the caffeine). Marquis turned out positive (okay..doesn't say anything about proportion of ingredients), there are several positive reactions here in the thread. I know that i'm not faking it.. unfortunately i just have marquis... with meckes and co i could look closer..
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Shit, müslix. Sounds terrible!
Seems after all I wasn't the only one here who hasn't had the best experience with his speed. I gave it another try the other night and it didn't really uplift me nor give me any body high or some sort of a rush. Maybe my 1g order had been cut with lots of coffeeine as well, who knows. And maybe that's why it didn't have any positive effects on me. I'm a regular coffee drinker tho, so I assume it should have nothing to do with it. I flushed the rest I had down the toilet after my weird experience with it. In retrospect, I should have washed it... Another time. :) Have yet to learn how to do it properly.
Well, either way, my hopes currently are on BrainDead - who was kind enough to let me sample his speed (waiting for his delivery right now) - and of course, the return of the BMaster.
Do you mean BrainDeal? Keep us updated on the quality, as well as someone who has tried LK's.
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Hey guys ,
to ct2012:
I'm sorry about this. I will give you a 20% refund for the missing weight.
to all :
After reading this thread I talked to my supplier .. he says he uses both caffeine and lactose to cut it but assured me that 1g of his product would never contain more than 200mg of caffeine... so even if you're snorting 1g at once the caffeine would not do you any harm , even if you're not used to caffeine. Maybe for someone like mueslix who seems to be highly sensitive to caffeine this was already too much.
My supplier also offered me to sell me the completely uncut product instead but of course the price would be a lot higher then but I told him that I'm interested... but for now I'll continue selling what's left. So far pretty much everyone was very pleased with the product.
Only 3 customers so far who were not : peterpan , mueslix and another guy who bought 10g and told me the product was weak - I offered him a 50% refund but will not continue to do business with him.
Cheers
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wow.. update on AC's stuff
Pure-As-Fuck
I finally realized why I was feeling so messed up/off the whole time, cause I was taking it with ddbestbase.
Took ac's stuff today (~50mg) by itself, got me going and 10 hours later, no sharp crash, definitely coming down but i'm still full of mental energy
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looks like more speed pills (Including my favorite amphetamine "ICE") are coming out of Canada again. Anyone think any will be pure dextroamphetamine or other non meth salt? I often wonder if the repeat branded pills are ever as good as the original? Thanks in advance for anyone's thoughts on the topic.
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Take an antiemetic! You mentioned you have hydroxyzine at home, that might do the trick. It works wonders for opiate mediated nausea at least. There's nothing like solving one drug problem with another drug :).
Check out the wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiemetic
:o Great find! I totally missed that property of Antihistamines.
did 1x25mg and it worked! Also provided me with solid 9hrs of uninterrupted sleep :)
+1 for sherlocksmith. 8)
As for my tolerance: it's really low, the only caffeine drink I use semi-regular is green tea which is a brand low on caffeine and I brew it in a way that should minimize caffeine even further. Tea is also more like Coffee XR, doesn't produce the immediate rush. So I am over-sensitive to it and I have not much of a tolerance. Bad combo.
To put it in to numbers: an average adult should start vomiting at dosages >1000mg. I start getting nausea at >400mg. I could work on my tolerance more, but I don't really like the caffeine effects that much, so I don't. 200mg-300mg caffeine per gram speed is unfortunately pretty common (according to checkIt!). Personally I don't like the idea of cutting a psychoactive substance with another psychoactive substance, it will very likely temper with the effects somehow. For me it can potentially ruin the initial rush since caffeine usually kicks in first. But after the amp kicks in most side effects disappear and I can surpass my 400mg limit easily. Or maybe the amp decreases the half-life of the caffeine. Amphetamines being another one of those miracle drugs ;)
As I posted earlier, it took unusually long to kick in, so maybe I had something in my system that caused a delay or potentiated the caff effects. Don't know what it might have been though, did extensive visual study on stomach contents. At the end I got inpatient and had 3 bumps within an hour, because the previous bumps hadn't kicked in by then. I think that's really what pushed me over the edge. My experience could have been improved by drinking electrolytes, which would have rehydrated me, the water had pretty much the opposite effect and the amp kept me up all night :) Instead of googling how to mix up some proper drink, I googled my symptoms and found out that I have either MS and/or a brain-tumor. According to google I have lots of brain-tumors already, not sure if there's room for one more ;D
The problem with the caffeine-OD (it really was just the beginning of an od) is that once I notice that I had too much, it's usually too late. I notice the caffeine pretty early - very rapid and uneven heartbeat. But once the amp takes over it gets smooth again. So the whole experience was strange and unusual. I'll clean the rest and use that, gonna post my opinion on that. I had it worse already and the amp made it less horrible than it might sound. I just hate that gag reflex so much, when your stomach is already empty. ugh.
wow.. update on AC's stuff
Pure-As-Fuck
Took ac's stuff today (~50mg) by itself, got me going and 10 hours later, no sharp crash, definitely coming down but i'm still full of mental energy
Could you please post a marquis (and mandelin/mecke) reagent test? they are not very expensive, marquis can be homemade if you are able to get formaldehyd. It's just another one of those oneliners, that doesn't give much insight. You could be reviewing 100s of substances.
ddshit, while probably very evil, should still be wiped out by Amphetamine Sulphate. BM, although twice the dose I would have taken normally, nuked any trace of the effects I got from AC.
tempting; 29 pounds though for eztests of mandelin/marquis... the opportunity cost is the only thing holding me back
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Müslix, sorry you had such a bad time. But are you sure it was the caffeine? like you said almost all speed is cut with huge amounts of caffeine and you never had such a bad experience before. An amphetamine overdose is not pretty either. Could it be that you just had too much amph? Didnt you write you had only four bumps, this can hardly be enough caffeine to overdose, can it?
Anyway, if you still have some speed left I can tell you what I did to get better speed:
caffeine solubility in h2o is 20mg/ml
amph sulfate solubility in h2o is 114mg/ml
Calculate the amount of water you need if the speed was pure. So if you have 1g use about 9ml distilled water (room temperature) and drop it on the speed. stir it until most has dissolved. Now filter off the stuff that did not dissolve. for small amounts the easiest way is to draw it into a syringe with a filter, for big amounts coffee filter is fine. Put the solution on a dish in the sun and let it dry.
I got beautiful fluffy needle crystals that are very potent. There is of course still caffeine in it but I prefer it this way. It feels way cleaner.
Before you do this you can also an acetone wash to remove cuts. However this has never worked for me. None of the cuts that are in the street speed I got are acetone soluble.
(and drying acetone is no hassle: in every pharmacy you can buy epsom salt ("Bittersalz" in German) MgSO4 7H2O, bake it in the oven until it is completely dry, let it cool, then throw it into the acetone, let it settle for some hours, you can leave it in.)
The advanced method is to do an A/B extraction, this is only worthwhile with bigger amounts but has the advantage that you can get the caffeine out almost completely..
You can even convert your amph to a different salt, some claim the phosphate is gentler and more powerful (it's used in adderall for example) and phosphoric acid is easy to get.
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buy online, reliable and the cheapest ez-test you'll find. combo-packs have best value: http://eztest.com/discount-combo-packs/
I am still searching for someone who can provide all in glass bottles with an eyedropper.
You've pretty much encouraged me to get tests after the whole AC thing. I can imagine they'd be very useful for people buying ketamine too (to identify MXE)
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http://beesafe.goshopper.net/i/18284/marquis-reagent-1milliliter.htm
Marquis Reagent 5 milliliters
Marquis reagent, used in the testing of unknown samples to indicate the presence of MDxx compounds, amphetamine type compounds as well as opiates and other phenethylamines. This is enough for well over 100 tests.
Price : $10.00
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Review of: Lonely Kamel
I ordered 5gr and it arrived in about 7 days. Product had a very, very strong musky scent--I have only ordered from UGS before and his was no where near this strong-smelling. Product is a bit rocky, breaks into hard chunks. I weighed out 75mg and dosed this morning. Definitely feel the effects, but not hugely so..Definitely get more geeked out on a 30mg Adderall (The only thing I have to compare street speed to). Took 75mg to work and redosed 1 1/2 hours later..Chopped up the phet nice and fine with a razor, and railed two 37mg lines..This BURNS!! Seriously, almost as bad as 2C-B. Had me sneezing, eyes red, etc.. Looked like I just got done with a good cry by the time I was finished sneezing. I've finished a ton of paperwork at work and reorganized my warehouse, so there is definitely phet in this...Just not sure how much. I generally use speed to get my day started in the morning and it fulfilled that requirement. For the price, it should last me through the month of August. I will probably be ordering a gram from BM anyway for the real deal experience.
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You can even convert your amph to a different salt, some claim the phosphate is gentler and more powerful (it's used in adderall for example) and phosphoric acid is easy to get.
I am going to have to disagree with this unforunately. Straight from wiki: Adderall is a combination drug composed of amphetamine aspartate monohydrate, amphetamine sulfate, dextroamphetamine saccharide, and dextroamphetamine sulfate.
So best-case: you forgot some important step(?). Worst case: you still end up with a amp-caffeine-(lactose)-water solution, though hopefully with less caffeine. Point of using Acetone in this case would be that caffeine is soluble in it, whereas amp isn't. So unless I misunderstood something here (feel free to point out) Acetone, even with 99.x%, should be far superior for cleaning out caffeine.
I agree with this. Both caffeine and amphet are soluble in water, so pachang's method of dissolving and filtering will result in the same caff/amph mix as before with POSSIBLY less caffeine due to the less solubility of caffeine...however there will still be caffeine depending upon how much its adulterated with. The point of a wash is allowing one of the ingredients to be soluble and the other one not, successfully removing one compound from the mixture.
@unknown79: Thank you very much for your review. His prices were low and I was considering a buy, but I think I will wait for BM because it sounds pretty adulterated (even UGS's shitty speed didn't make my sinus react like that), although I am curious to the more experienced users here whether pure amph should burn like that?
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Review of: Lonely Kamel
I ordered 5gr and it arrived in about 7 days. Product had a very, very strong musky scent--I have only ordered from UGS before and his was no where near this strong-smelling. Product is a bit rocky, breaks into hard chunks. I weighed out 75mg and dosed this morning. Definitely feel the effects, but not hugely so..Definitely get more geeked out on a 30mg Adderall (The only thing I have to compare street speed to). Took 75mg to work and redosed 1 1/2 hours later..Chopped up the phet nice and fine with a razor, and railed two 37mg lines..This BURNS!! Seriously, almost as bad as 2C-B. Had me sneezing, eyes red, etc.. Looked like I just got done with a good cry by the time I was finished sneezing. I've finished a ton of paperwork at work and reorganized my warehouse, so there is definitely phet in this...Just not sure how much. I generally use speed to get my day started in the morning and it fulfilled that requirement. For the price, it should last me through the month of August. I will probably be ordering a gram from BM anyway for the real deal experience.
Does it burn for just a few seconds or is it ten minutes of agony 2C-B style? BMs uncut sulphate burns quite a lot but only for a very short while. Even his lactose-amph makes my eyes water when snorted.
Funny that LK is shipping from Spain. All the speed I've encountered in Spain has burned like hell when snorted, much more than the stuff I'm used at least. Don't know if it's due to high(er) amphetamine content or if it's caused by something they mix it with.
müslix: Cheers :). Glad it helped!
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Sorry to read your story müslix. :( Just waiting on my 1g from MrFire but I'm fairly caffeine sensitive, 2 shots of coffee will usually give me nausea, shortness of breath, irregular heart beat and diarrhea. I'll proceed with caution.
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Ordered twice from mrfireuk so far .. both times quick delivery and good packaging and pleased with the product .. pretty much the best deal for speed i've had on sr so far .. fair price and good gear.
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Of course washing with acetone is superior to recrystallizing to water if caffeine is indeed soluble in it. If found no data on this unfortunately.
Because the acetone wash removed nothing from the heavily cut speed I had I assumed that caffeine is insoluble in acetone. But perhaps my speed was just cut with something else.
about dissolving in water: caffeine is an organic base while amphetamine is dissolved as the salt. It's my understanding that the amount of base that stays in solution when a salt is dissolved is negligible. Proteins are salted out like this from an aqueous solution. There will be some caffeine in the solution of course (I never claimed differently). To know how much you have to calculate the solubility equilibrium and I have no idea how to do this for two substances at once.
You can even convert your amph to a different salt, some claim the phosphate is gentler and more powerful (it's used in adderall for example) and phosphoric acid is easy to get.
I am going to have to disagree with this unfortunately. Straight from wiki: Adderall is a combination drug composed of amphetamine aspartate monohydrate, amphetamine sulfate, dextroamphetamine saccharide, and dextroamphetamine sulfate.
Oops sorry. that happens if you write something from memory. I actually read about the phophate in the patent; by a German scientist who claims that it's superior to the sulphate in pharms. Then again he "invented" it so perhaps he's just bragging.
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Sorry to read your story müslix. :( Just waiting on my 1g from MrFire but I'm fairly caffeine sensitive, 2 shots of coffee will usually give me nausea, shortness of breath, irregular heart beat and diarrhea. I'll proceed with caution.
Any chance you can wash your stuff before you try it mate and give us the results please? i want to try his stuff too and it will be interesting
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Sorry to read your story müslix. :( Just waiting on my 1g from MrFire but I'm fairly caffeine sensitive, 2 shots of coffee will usually give me nausea, shortness of breath, irregular heart beat and diarrhea. I'll proceed with caution.
If it helps: the first gram didn't cause any nasty caffeine side-effects. Make sure you completely dry it first tho. The solvent that was used to mix it all up isn't the most pleasant thing either.
disclaimer: put an 'approx' before every number mentioned below :) I left it out for readability. I did my best but I don't have a lab.
I didn't have any aceton, so I did a 96% alc wash on 1.2x gram.
I took approx 1.47 gram, made it as fine as humanly possible and let it dry for 8 hrs. I scraped off as much as I could and I ended up with 1.26 gram.
I then used 25ml of alc at 60°C. This should dissolve 50mg AmpSO4 or 1000mg of caffeine (according to Merck). Won't dissolve Lactose.
I carefully mixed, filtered, let it dry over night. The smell/taste of the solvent is gone.
Weighed it again and I am now looking at 0.58 gram (so 680mg of 'stuff' was solved in the alcohol). Best-case: I'm now looking at Amp+Lactose+(small amounts of caffeine) mixed 1:1. Worst-case: I misread something or got it wrong and it's pure adulterant now :) I want that Marquis-bottle.
this should be pachang's method on steroids. No re-crystalization happening tho.
I ordered Acetone today, if I did everything right further washing of this sample with Acetone shouldn't do much. For the rest I'll use the Acetone method tho.
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I didn't have any aceton, so I did a 96% alc wash on 1.2x gram.
You're loosing a bit amp in the 4% water. Get acetone and dry it!!
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@muslix how old are you?sorry for my question but im really want to know , you can +(x) years add more to not disclose personal information about their data becouse i have some suspicion ...
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~ Review Amsterdope ~
I've ordered 5 gram of Amsterdope's speed and the purity has changed just recently from 40% to 30% in the description so I guess it's a new batch, did a Marquis reagent test and took some photo's this time. The Marquis test turned orange/brown very fast indicating amphetamine or methamphetamine, I will just assume it's not meth. The reagent test result is only an indication, it doesn't provide information about the purity or exact composition of the sample.
speed pic 1 http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=7f0b80c0b45308ccbc2674df72375962.jpg
speed pic 2 http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=8a93fc720fbe6f7e7a06a1b25d0ed3ee.jpg (powder is about just as white as on this pic)
eztest pic 1 http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=79e63112f3599ae980254f6d0bbfa83d.jpg
eztest pic 2 http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=9eeb9ed9c6efe1f7d2db462f37ddaf3b.jpg
[bummer, seems that my pics have been removed from the server]
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note: Amsterdope describes the purity at this moment as 30% (max. 72%) amphetamine base equivalence but other vendors and BoyMaster 70% description refers to the purity of the 100% dry amphetamine powder form with the sulphate salt part of about 27% included. You can compare the actual potency with one of two simple calculations. [1] Subtracting the sulphate part from BoyMaster 70% test result, 70 x 0,73 x 100% = 51% freebase equivalent this means that 100mg of BM's 70% amphetamine sulphate is equal to 51mg pure liquid freebase in potency and Amsterdope's 30% is equal to 30mg of the freebase in potency. [2] Adding the sulphate salt part to Amsterdope's 30% freebase equivalent test result, 100 x 30 / 73 = 41% amphetamine sulphate powder versus the 70% of BM both including the salt part now.
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First of all, I consider Amsterdope a legit and trusted vendor that's definitely something to take in account when you want to place an order on Silk Road. Packaging and delivery are both always good. The 5 gram was a bit overweight so that's nice to begin with and the white powder is dry and voluminous. Normally with good quality speed you have to feel the effects relatively fast and good within about 5-15 minutes after the first line in my experience. The last time I've used speed was over two weeks ago so I think tolerance is not a big factor. With this speed I had to use a pretty large nasal start dosage of approximately 100-200mg and it also took much longer to kick in especially compared to BoyMaster's stuff. After the slow diesel train start up it actually works well for generating a pleasant speed rush but I just have to use much higher doses. This is not an advise of course, for safety always start with a low dose of about 50mg or less dry powder.
To be honest I have my doubts about the purity, I mean based on my own experience with the average quality on the local Dutch market and using some common sense. A nasal dose of let's say 100mg of this speed should basically give a similar effect as about 50mg of BoyMaster 70%* speed and the stuff simply isn't that potent imho. But only a lab test can give exact results about the purity and composition of the powder, at least for psycho-active substances. The speed doesn't burn in your nose at all not even a tiny bit, it also hasn't got a real distinctive smell. As usual it makes you wonder what the other big part is although it's not unlikely that a fair amount is caffeine but that's pure speculation at this point. As a daily coffee drinker I already have a caffeine tolerance but I did notice excessive sweating and based on the statistics it's by far the most used cutting agent for speed in Europe.
The overall value of this speed also heavily depends on the quality and prices offered by the other vendors but it obviously can't compete with BM's superior price/quality* ratio when the new speed listings are up. Amsterdope in case you read this. I mean this in a friendly way :) really not to disrespect you but isn't it maybe a good time to increase the quality and value of your product instead of decreasing it? We can't see into the future but it seems there's a wind of change going on in the speed section.
To end this review with a positive twist, the quality is not what I personally consider 'good' but it's also definitely not bunk. Fair chance that you won't feel that much after only one 50mg line, most people probably have to take a nasal starting dose of about 100-200mg to generate a nice speed rush. Given the fact the price is good, I think in spite of the lower potency it still could be an attractive product for many people in the world, especially in places where the street quality is awful.
(*THE BATCHES AND PRICES HAVE CHANGED IN THE MEANTIME, THIS REVIEW ONLY REPRESENTS THE QUALITY AT THE MOMENT IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN BY ME, I HAVE BOUGHT SPEED FROM AMSTERDOPE SEVERAL TIMES MORE LATER ON AND THE QUALITY OF THOSE NEWER BATCHES IS REALLY MUCH BETTER!)
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Thanks for the earlier reply müslix, helpful as always. +1 for you now that Ive got my karma abilities back.
Been honking on MrFire's speed this evening sitting here doing some techy stuff on my computers. I have logged a review and mini trip report that I will post shortly. I've been treading very carefully with pussy doses due to my caffeine intolerance/aging heart but thankfully I've had no adverse effects. Keeping it to 120mg tonight :) I didn't wash it because I don't have the chems to do so at the moment.
Hope you're feeling better dude :)
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This is my review/mini-trip report of MrFireUK's amphetamine.
Speed arrived in a couple of days UK>UK, nice and quick. It came properly vacuum sealed in a baggy. Packaging was nice and stealthy. The speed was white, in small clumps, on cutting the speed into a fine powder it turns out that the clumps were quite dry. There was a chemical smell, like washing powder you get from the cooking process, so I let the powder sit on a warm plate for a couple of hours. After this I weighed the product at 1.1g on my not so precise, cheap arse Chinese scales. I have a 1g calibration weight so I can definitely say weight was over, even after the small bits I lost from chopping it up, sticking to the plate etc.
Here's a little trip report, skip to the tl;dr if you can't be arsed :)
About me and this report. I've not used speed for about 16 years or any stimulants for a couple of months. I've experienced lots of different speed in the past from OMG amazing to powdered laxative that caused me to shit my pants at a busy house party. ::) I occasionally use drugs nowdays and am not on any meds. My measurements should be considered highly inaccurate! My starting blood pressure is 120/80 pulse 80. I am feeling ok and in good health.
1804 - I started by weighing out about 50mg on a mirror. Took about 10-12 mg amphetamine (Mr play-it-safe; its been a long time and I ain't gotten any younger), over the last 15 minutes licking up the powder that had stuck to the plate and blade. Dabbed the bulk on my gums and snorted a very tiny bit. No burn going up the old snout but wouldn't expect so from such a small amount. Tasted like fanny, as expected.
1855 - Got sidetracked so forgot to re-dose, not feeling much, perhaps mild stimulation, hard to tell. Did another 10mg approx on my gums before I had a small dinner.
1910 - Gently railed 10mg, no burn. I use snuff so maybe my nose is just hard as nails.
1935 - Railed about 10mg. Feeling stimulation, albeit very light.
1950 - Railed 10mg.
2005 - Put out another 70mg on a mirror. . Total consumed so far about 50mg.
2005-2030 - Railed 30mg used 10mg on gums. Skin feels warmer, sweating lightly, subtle feeling of jaw tension. Feel clear headed, a bit more motivated, a tiny bit of euphoria perhaps, fairly subtle so far but nice.
2045 - 15mg bump. Need the toilet, stimulants always stimulate my bowels :( think I'll squeeze it in and log onto SR forums.
2050 - Now finished about 120mg so far. Based on that I'd say the price is right, would even say its fairly decent value for money. I feel nicely stimulated but not wired, I feel slight euphoria after railing a line but it doesn't stick around, euphoria is always subjective imo, my motivation is increased and I'm feeling a bit more talkative. My final blood pressure is 141/82 pulse 87.
tl;dr... Pretty decent stuff with no adverse effects for me at a total dose of approximately 120mg over a few hours, no burn when snorting, no banging racy heart, just a slightly noticeable increased heartrate. Nice high, motivated but not too wired, good price for strength. Next time my personal recreational dose of this batch will be 80-100mg at once, followed by top-ups of about 20-40mg. In the context of my local drug scene, people sell speed half as potent calling it cocaine for twice this price, they just add a bit of lidocaine. Overall rating of 4.5/5.
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FWIW, I got arigolo's package today, exactly a week after ordering. Nice packaging. I railed half of one pill about an hour ago and they appear to be regular, non-meth pills. They have that distinctive speed smell and flavor. Dosage seems pretty decent - good stuff so far! (Afraid that my reagent testing kit is still in a box somewhere since I moved a couple weeks ago, but I'll share the results once I find the kit.)
To expand on my initial impressions - I railed another half pill 90 mins or so later. Come up was pretty quick and intense and I was jawing like crazy for about 45 minutes. Then it settles in and is a nice, typical speedy high that makes you wanna get shit done.
Neither logo shows up on pillreports (i have a mix of "Excel" gum and "Baja" boats) and the pills are soft and crumbly.
I have quite a bit of experience with speed that's produced in the same region, and these are up to par. Nothing spectacular, but definitely solid value even at the post-promo prices. Will probably buy again.
I ordered a sample from him got way more than what he told me he was sampling me ... 20 instead of 3 . Im def gon repay him by buying alot.. this stuff feels good . so it can def be meth base or a mix .. and HOW DO you know there from that region.. (apparantley im from that region too so many speed pills over here lol.) .. good quality pills , sold them as e at a club and everyone loved me lololol.
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Wtf is that lol...
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Haha, looks like BrainDead is literally taking the piss out of his customers.. and then sells it back to them.
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From my review in MrFireUK's thread of his speed and heroin.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=30341.30
Speed review:
Paid £10 for a gram which means it cost the same as if I bought it on the street, that was nice as SR is normally more expensive. Can't comment on weight as I don't have scales but it certainly looked like a gram, maybe a little over, and was bone dry. The speed was white dried up paste in little rocks, doesn't appear to be too cut. So as I said I got home hungover and sleep deprived which seemed like a good time for a bit of speed. It crushed up easily and I cut a skinny line about 5cm long (probably just under 100mg). The speed hit in a couple of minutes and came on very quickly, normal effects like 10 cups of coffee with a little euphoria, it completely removed the tiredness and I was a lot more focused. Bear in mind that I have quite a high tolerance and would need about 250mg of normal street stuff for those same effects. I can't say I noticed any caffeine as people have mentioned earlier on, it seemed very clean.
Overall I'd give it 9/10, only reason it's not 10 is because I once had stronger stuff, but really it was almost perfect.
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Seriously.. there should be a cross moderator between the forum and Silk Road who checks up on these kind of things... Ban/warn those fuckers straight away!
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update on BrainDead/AAkoven:
Drying this shit currently, it has a consistency like butter. really weird and the smell is gross, a bit like egg-ish (sulfur, but wtf?!) . Also did a marquis test.
About the marquis test: first thing: it will turn brown even with very low amounts of amp present. I tested speed that had less than 2% amp and it reacted. Also the brown-ish color is dominant. This means you only need a little amp to cover up every shitty RC that you put in there. So brown only means that there is some meth/amphetamine present. Not more, not less. For further research more reagent-tests or full chromatography should be used. /disclaimer
Now, I've done some Marquis-tests in my time, and I can safely say that this was one of the weirdest I saw so far.
Marquis: yellow to yellow/green-ish (1-2sec max) to brown with slight hints of green/yellow still present.
So it's cut with an unknown RC and there is not enough Amp in it to mask the RC. Quite an Accomplishment. Will keep it until next labtest opportunity.
I can still see the slight yellow/green-ish hint 15min in.
Pictures (needs sunlight to show properly on low-qual cam):
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=83f166227c4d683f9a927dc6f9c9675a.jpg
BETTER:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=f9d0a843a0db21d1a6826d47f86de618.jpg
THANKS FOR TRYING TO POISON US BRAINDEAD/AAKOVEN!!
I hope it's not AMT :)
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IMPORTANT NOTICE TO ALL CUSTOMERS ESPECIALLY SPEEDHEADS :
All this talk about Boymasters speed and him being the undisputed king of amphetamine on the road got me thinking - and being a very competitive person it also got me jealous I must admit. So I had another talk to my amphetamine supplier and sealed the deal - after the current batch is sold he will be supplying me with uncut amphetamine straight from the lab. I'm not someone who makes outrageous claims but I tell you this is pretty much as pure as it gets (well apart from pharmaceutical grade) and I'm sure the road has never seen speed as good as this and certainly nothing better (sorry BM , no offense ;) ). Of course I'm here to make money but I also care about my reputation and I just like being on top so I'll climb that speed throne.
I'm going to continue selling it as dry white powder - no paste and no 50% weight loss after the solvents evaporated. Of course I will have to raise the prices then especially for the larger amounts but it will still be the best deal you can get on here. I came to the conclusion that SR users choose quality over quantity - and the guys who buy large bulk amounts to sell it will still be better off buying my stuff at a higher price because in the end everyone gets more amphetamine for their bucks.. it's up to them to then cut it to whatever degree they like but 50:50 will still be top notch gear.
This is also a reminder to be careful with the new stuff - a line of 100mg will most likely lead to an overdose if you don't have build up some tolerance yet.
To show you guys that I'm not just all talk I already bought a small amount of it to be able to dispatch a few samples .. and also to enjoy this amazing stuff myself ;)
It seems like knomo and mueslix are both considered to be speed experts so those two will be the first ones that I'm offering a free sample. Both live in countries that I usually don't ship to but I will make an exception here (shipping can be done from either Germany or the UK).
If there's anyone who feels that he's in a position to give some feedback that other users will trust just send me a message.. but please UK or Germany only. Right now I still do not consider shipping internationally but if there's someone who would like to resell my stuff here on SR I might be interested in supplying bulk amounts to that person.. just let me know.
If knomo or another reputable member would be willing to get the speed analyzed in a proper lab I will gladly cover the expenses - yes I am that confident in this product ;)
I just want to be known as the vendor who sells the best quality he can get at a fair price - besides making a shitload of cash obviously.
Sometimes that might mean higher prices than the competition but still a better deal in the end. This is also the reason why I still haven't put up a cocaine listing yet as I'm just not fully satisfied with the quality and to be honest I did try some of the fresh cocaine that's being sold by two UK vendors with a good reputation and I gotta admit that they've got some awesome blow .. a bit pricey but in my opinion very well worth it and better than anything that I can get locally right now... honour where honour is due ;)
To get the ball rolling and being able to start selling the new amphetamine batch as soon as possible I will lower the prices for the current batch. Everyone who has already put in an order that has not been processed yet will get extra weight to even it out.
Already let a friend sample some of the MDMA I'll start selling next week and I can say without a doubt that this is some very good MDMA for sure ..up there with the best and the price will be very good too :)
One german customer complained about the weed being too wet(still good though) so I told my buddy to let it dry for another day .. so from now on I'll always make sure that the weed will be crispy dry before it's being sold.
Some feedback for the #3 H is slowly coming in and is very positive so far .. so everyone who likes smack give it a try and don't let the higher prices fool you - it's a good deal :)
Will be back on Sunday night to process all outstanding UK orders (sorry for the delay once more but I still have a lot of other shit going on in my life .. won't be like this every weekend though).
Will soon be putting up a few new listings , still got some surprises left so keep an eye out ;)
Cheers and thanks for reading this lengthy post (yeah I did have some of that new speed about an hour ago.. will smoke some smack soon to calm me down a bit ;) )
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IMPORTANT NOTICE TO ALL CUSTOMERS ESPECIALLY SPEEDHEADS :
All this talk about Boymasters speed and him being the undisputed king of amphetamine on the road got me thinking - and being a very competitive person it also got me jealous I must admit. So I had another talk to my amphetamine supplier and sealed the deal - after the current batch is sold he will be supplying me with uncut amphetamine straight from the lab. I'm not someone who makes outrageous claims but I tell you this is pretty much as pure as it gets (well apart from pharmaceutical grade) and I'm sure the road has never seen speed as good as this and certainly nothing better (sorry BM , no offense ;) ). Of course I'm here to make money but I also care about my reputation and I just like being on top so I'll climb that speed throne.
I'm going to continue selling it as dry white powder - no paste and no 50% weight loss after the solvents evaporated. Of course I will have to raise the prices then especially for the larger amounts but it will still be the best deal you can get on here. I came to the conclusion that SR users choose quality over quantity - and the guys who buy large bulk amounts to sell it will still be better off buying my stuff at a higher price because in the end everyone gets more amphetamine for their bucks.. it's up to them to then cut it to whatever degree they like but 50:50 will still be top notch gear.
This is also a reminder to be careful with the new stuff - a line of 100mg will most likely lead to an overdose if you don't have build up some tolerance yet.
To show you guys that I'm not just all talk I already bought a small amount of it to be able to dispatch a few samples .. and also to enjoy this amazing stuff myself ;)
It seems like knomo and mueslix are both considered to be speed experts so those two will be the first ones that I'm offering a free sample. Both live in countries that I usually don't ship to but I will make an exception here (shipping can be done from either Germany or the UK).
If there's anyone who feels that he's in a position to give some feedback that other users will trust just send me a message.. but please UK or Germany only. Right now I still do not consider shipping internationally but if there's someone who would like to resell my stuff here on SR I might be interested in supplying bulk amounts to that person.. just let me know.
If knomo or another reputable member would be willing to get the speed analyzed in a proper lab I will gladly cover the expenses - yes I am that confident in this product ;)
I just want to be known as the vendor who sells the best quality he can get at a fair price - besides making a shitload of cash obviously.
Sometimes that might mean higher prices than the competition but still a better deal in the end. This is also the reason why I still haven't put up a cocaine listing yet as I'm just not fully satisfied with the quality and to be honest I did try some of the fresh cocaine that's being sold by two UK vendors with a good reputation and I gotta admit that they've got some awesome blow .. a bit pricey but in my opinion very well worth it and better than anything that I can get locally right now... honour where honour is due ;)
To get the ball rolling and being able to start selling the new amphetamine batch as soon as possible I will lower the prices for the current batch. Everyone who has already put in an order that has not been processed yet will get extra weight to even it out.
Already let a friend sample some of the MDMA I'll start selling next week and I can say without a doubt that this is some very good MDMA for sure ..up there with the best and the price will be very good too :)
One german customer complained about the weed being too wet(still good though) so I told my buddy to let it dry for another day .. so from now on I'll always make sure that the weed will be crispy dry before it's being sold.
Some feedback for the #3 H is slowly coming in and is very positive so far .. so everyone who likes smack give it a try and don't let the higher prices fool you - it's a good deal :)
Will be back on Sunday night to process all outstanding UK orders (sorry for the delay once more but I still have a lot of other shit going on in my life .. won't be like this every weekend though).
Will soon be putting up a few new listings , still got some surprises left so keep an eye out ;)
Cheers and thanks for reading this lengthy post (yeah I did have some of that new speed about an hour ago.. will smoke some smack soon to calm me down a bit ;) )
I like your gumption
Going to be watching how this pans out and hope for a US ship
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Nice to hear that there's a new competitor, it's always interesting ::)
The dispute with Germanexpress and AC led us to a lot of improvements in our scheme, so it has to continue!
May the best one win, good luck.
Greets
BM
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Good too see that you did not get offended by my post - your reaction shows good character 8)
As I said right now you're the king of the hill but I would not mind to take the pole position ;)
I guess there are enough customers on here anyway but yeah a little competition never hurts - especially the customer will profit in the end (well not saying that we as the vendor do not profit from SR .. not at all ;) )
From what I understand you deliver worldwide or at least to all EU countries - I honestly don't know right now where you're based but that's just because I don't buy speed on SR ;) - so you've got a potentially bigger customer base anyway. I like the way it is right now not having to worry about custom seizures or customers claiming they did not receive anything .. long delivery times .. all that stuff.
Cheers and good business to ya!
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+1 for both of you -- just awesome. I hope the US gets some of this new love! I'll have my coins waiting ;D
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ONE BTC for whomever (or something divvied between those most helpful) to read this post and sort me out,
Alright, I'm a total newb when it comes to speed - I've done at least an hour of searches (erowid, bluelight and other clearnet, as well as variations on these forums).
All I've found is conflicting information (on all searches). First, I bought some of Supertrips / Supertrip's / ST / ST's speed paste. Pancaked a layer, air dried for half an hour, tried ~30mgs snorted (erowid suggested 10-30mg for common). Felt a touch of euphoria, awake, focusing and zoning in on some things but nothing hardcore; however the does and effects don't seem that similar to caffeine (from drink, not powder). Mind you, I'm not interested right now in pushing speed to its extremes, just to use it as a tool, but to know it is speed that I'm using!
The conflicts:
-To let it dry first (losing some potency), to do it moist (but supposedly that's only solvents you don't want).
-The methos to dry it, and the time period, and the supposed benefits or drawbacks?
-However, you want to store it moist?
I've done both speed and meth IRL a couple of times each, but I can't say that knowledge applies to the product available on SR. Anyone want to link, pm me, or speak of some general guidelines that amphetamine is suppose to be? (Its fine if it needs to be compared to Meth, but I'm not interested in that)
(erowid doesn't seem to differentiate between the two, clearnet is mostly USA kids trying to find out the differences between 'base' 'paste' etc. that Europe goes by)
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Lovely to see both BM and MrFireUK being motivated to deliver top quality. I think they will both have excellent stats and a successful time on SR and can both make a ton (there's room for many *if* the quality is very good).
MrFireUK will let me sample his new batch, thanks for that! I will most definitely report back asap and let you guys know about the level of quality. 8)
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Alright, I'm a total newb when it comes to speed - I've done at least an hour of searches (erowid, bluelight and other clearnet, as well as variations on these forums).
I think personal experience is key. I'd just wait for BM to restock or try some of MrFireUK's new gear (not confirmed yet to be top quality, but there is a good chance). Both vendors have received nothing but great reviews with very few exceptions. Once you've tried you will know what the effects *should* be like. With regards the other questions, I'm no expert, but if you have lots of paste lying around, I'd store it in the freezer (or dry it all at once). On the other hand, if it's already very dry, I'd just store it in a cool and dark place. Drying amph shouldn't have any effects on its potency.
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MrFireUK will let me sample his new batch, thanks for that! I will most definitely report back asap and let you guys know about the level of quality. 8)
same here! will see how good it is compared to BM's stuff.
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@muslix AC led us to sell the next batch pure, so he did something for you at all :)
Best regards
BM
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+1 for both of you -- just awesome. I hope the US gets some of this new love! I'll have my coins waiting ;D
I guess BM will remain king since his royal reach is further....Beverly Hills that is. I understand the pain in the ass dealing with sending your stuff across the pond, but couldn't you work with some of us North America folk that have been a member over a year and ..........not publishing that part, but you get my drift. Well, coin (a computer full) ready for what ever competitor is first to offer top notch product at a reasonable price.
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his results are shitty. I will have a few comments coming in soon.
beware : Muslix is just a kid who doesnt know what real gear is!
thats all in the matter.
thanks
<AC>
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AC sells an RC as Amp :( very disappointed.
Care to elaborate?
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his results are shitty. I will have a few comments coming in soon.
beware : Muslix is just a kid who doesnt know what real gear is!
thats all in the matter.
thanks
<AC>
From what I've seen muslix knows quality ampehtamine well... and you're just another scammer. you even post like a scammer.
if he doesn't know what real gear is how come he likes boymaster stuff?
just another scammer...
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@muslix AC led us to sell the next batch pure, so he did something for you at all :)
Best regards
BM
hope it is ready soon, first week of august?
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AC sells an RC as Amp :( very disappointed.
Care to elaborate?
Read back a few pages, highly detailed explanation with picture proof and everything ;)
As for the MrFireUK sample, I'm honored hehe. Whats the time frame we're looking at here? Because I'll be going on a 3 week holiday pretty soon.
I could do the testing in a testcenter, in Holland it's completely free of charge :)
The center is actually pretty close to my house as well.
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mr ukfire whats the point in giving it large and all this bravado if you only send to germany and the uk mr small time you should be called theres a world out there
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his results are shitty. I will have a few comments coming in soon.
While you're at it, any chance you can enlighten us with a good explanation and arguments why you charge about 5x as much as BM and MrFireUK??
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Sigh, another UK paste vendor selling caffeine and solvent I assume?..
"HIGH QUALITY UK AMPHETAMINE BASE PASTE 1G
seller: NBOME"
His first and only review types exactly the same as he does in his product description.
Whenever someone puts "base" and "paste" in alarm bells ring now.
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I would like to introduce myself as I already seem to be getting shit on here. I'm offering 4 x 500mg samples to those who have a decent history on here. My product is high quality and clean amphetamines. Not the caffeine and cathinone shite that is doing the rounds. I wouldn't buy it otherwise. I'll put up a listing and if you think you want a sample send me a message and let me know your credentials. I won't send to sample hunters.
I have been a member on this site since Feb 2011 . I have an original vending account which I didn't even have to pay for, in short, I only come on here when I have quality to sell because I don't need the hassle and bitching over poor quality product. I have strong, clean amphetamines, if you want them then buy some.
Please check out my products:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/8401b1a9bb - 1gm
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/bc74740233 - Samples for trusted reviewers
Thanks
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For god sake, why would some idiot try to buy up all 4 free samples, retard, do you really think I am going to send it???
please serious reviewers not jokers
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Thats funny but all too typical of the SR community at large. Lots of punk scammers and kids greedy to the core . ther are plenty of good righteous folks but a high percentage of lcowns who feel the need to get over on people. Emboldened by the anonymous nature here. At least at the Dead shows and festivals if you have skill and the talent to read people you can sift out the chaff. On here it is simply hard to control. Personally I am hopeful to find another good source of the great lost art of now European amp. Her in the US it is all simply over run and dominated by meth. So much in fact no one here remebers or takes the time or energy to produce the great amp.
Peace and Good Vibes
Hilly
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NBOME
I went to get your free sample, but I can't seem to find your public key? I know someone who has been around that long has one, I guess I am blind. Thanks for posting it or giving reference. Thanks
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NBOME
I went to get your free sample, but I can't seem to find your public key? I know someone who has been around that long has one, I guess I am blind. Thanks for posting it or giving reference. Thanks
Sorry, just uploaded it now, was in a hurry and I fooking hate pgp :-)
I would prefer people only encrypted info if they really feel they have to or if it is particularly sensitive info. When you have to deal with a load of emails it can be a nightmare!
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NBOME
I went to get your free sample, but I can't seem to find your public key? I know someone who has been around that long has one, I guess I am blind. Thanks for posting it or giving reference. Thanks
Sorry, just uploaded it now, was in a hurry and I fooking hate pgp :-)
I would prefer people only encrypted info if they really feel they have to or if it is particularly sensitive info. When you have to deal with a load of emails it can be a nightmare!
Shipping a little steep in price (About what I pay for a gram), but if it is premo stuff I will probably order a lot more that will iron out the ship price. Sent, thanks! :)
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anybody know if BM has mentioned an ETA for re-stock?
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yes I know.
would you mind elaborating bud? (possibly via PM)
thanks
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yes I know.
:P
He said probably first week in August :)
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Description ### update : as some people are saying I am making a regular mistakes with sending meph instead of amph, I will post pictures with comparison of both, meph and amph in one place. say no more to scam! ###
This sounds more like AspirantBLOOPER.. regular mistakes I mean really??
just wanted to let everyong know that I am going to post pics of the products both at on pic. will buy a ez test too and will upload pics with test results. waiting for the packs with testers to be sent. the pictures will be uploaded tomorrow when I have my camera.
Nice try how stupid do you think we are? :P Okay right very stupid indeed for buying drugs here of course but frankly I didn't had room for all those braincells anyway so it's kind of nice to have some ventilation up there.
Dread Pirate Roberts emphasized how important integrity is on Silk Road but in reality the so called strict demands for sellers are a total joke. Vendors like for example AAkoven and juergen2001 are scamming their ass of for months and months now.. still high ranked sellers here. If GermanExpress's account was closed so fast then SR support should totally assimilate those other accounts too right? You can't talk about integrity and at the same time just keep facilitating for sellers who clearly aren't playing by the rules.
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Well the problem is all these uneducated fuckheads who just FE on whatever they receive in the mail.
You could send them mustardpowder (like Pfandleiher did allegedly) and there would still be feedback saying that " package was fast and product is awesome!! Just didn't test yet, will edit." (which of course, they never do). GermanExpress got banned so fast because he didn't send anything. I frankly still think something happened to that guy.
That's why I think a 'super-moderator/admin' or something like that should be implemented to keep track between forum and Silk Road. Cause the knowledge is here, but the masses are out there.
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his results are shitty. I will have a few comments coming in soon.
beware : Muslix is just a kid who doesnt know what real gear is!
My results are shitty? You claim Marquis & Mandelin Reagent Tests produce wrong results?
Or are you accusing me of faking the results? Of all 10 or so, I faked only yours? Why would I do that? I have no reason. You on the other hand have every reason to make false claims.
And I am a kid who doesn't know real amphetamine, yes? Now I heard that before. Ah yes, your fellow countryman implied that on multiple occasions. The only one who keeps claiming your stuff is real Amphetamine. I told him to let it go. For a reason. You want me to change my mind? He seemed to silently agree.
Ok, so let's stick to the facts for a second, shall we?
I ordered your Amphetamine. I received, gave it a try, was not convinced. I decided to make a break from all drugs and test again. No one ever got this much goodwill from me.
Further testing from convinced me that this is not Amphetamine. I guessed it was actually Mephedrone.
YOU said you sent the wrong product. I haven't asked for a refund nor a reship. YOU said it was YOUR mistake and you send it again. As another sign of goodwill I deleted parts of my initial findings (which btw were all correct) and added a disclaimer that it was all a mistake. I really wanted to believe you.
In the meantime I actually tried to organize a bigger order from you here on the forum.
The reship arrived. I had a VERY bad experience with it. I had direct comparison with 2 other Speed-Products, which I am 100% sure were legit. One was labtested, the other one was BM.
At that point your fellow countryman showed up again and made all sorts op weird accusations from Amphetamine-OD (which I treated with BM's speed - logic not his strong suit) to Stimulant-Psychosis, which again according to him disappeared after I used large amounts of BM's speed (the logic...).
Again goodwill FROM ME (third time now, this is extremely generous, the only one I ever did that for (once!) was GE) as I deleted my trip report stating the obvious and waiting on the Marquis/Mandelin Test to arrive.
So the Tests came and I tested. I made sure I got the right sample as shown on your pictures. To make sure I tested both samples of course, with similar results. I chose to post the one which YOU claim to be Amphetamine (not that it would have mattered). I tested way more than is shown here. Yours was the only sample that was 100% not what it claims to be.
Marquis:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=790db0222e27096c7fbefb61ec68be2c.jpg
Mandelin (right is GE - went from bright green to this dark green, left is AC):
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=132b128b0a5795db265a5cc8d9b8b627.jpg
So these are the shitty tests I did? Keep in mind that whatever you are selling is not Amphetamine for sure and may be potentially harmful for your customers. Is this the kind of vendor you want to be?
At this point I still did not call you a scammer. I did not (yet) post the results all over your review thread. I did not ask for a refund (my opinion can not be bought). I did not ask for a reship.
What I did was warn people that this *may* cause health risks and it is not Amphetamine. As I told you on SR, NO ONE can silence me on such warnings. Bad quality/bunk is one thing, selling something completely different is another.
I thought you are a respectable seller with some integrity. So I let it be, waiting for your response on my post. My warning was out, that's what matters to me, as I told you. Also I am not your quality assurance, YOU are. It is your responsibility to make sure you sell good Speed. It shouldn't be the customer who proves the vendor wrong. But you didn't care about all of this, just kept on selling. Now everyone here with > 2 braincells left can at this point already make up his/her own mind.
I am deeply disappointed by you as person and as vendor. How you handle this shows what kind of vendor you are. You put yourself on the same level as AAkoven. Your rating at SR reflects that fact also.
I did EVERYTHING more than right by you. I gave you way more chances than you deserved. You had enough time to prove yourself and you failed. And all you can come up with are empty phrases and empty promises. You and your friend calling me a kid with no clue and my results shitty.
Well then, tell me this: YOU promised Marquis Tests also, but you never delivered. Why?
Why can people who post reviews like "AC amp good" afford 1g of your stuff, but when it comes to 3 Euro for a Marquis Test to prove their claims, NO ONE is up to it? Not even you.
hello,
just wanted to let everyong know that I am going to post pics of the products both at on pic. will buy a ez test too and will upload pics with test results. waiting for the packs with testers to be sent. the pictures will be uploaded tomorrow when I have my camera.
thanks
<AC>
WHERE IS IT?!
My last words for you, same as for AAkoven: you, your friends and your possible fake accounts stay the hell away from me. And get a dictionary and look up INTEGRITY.
Since you have the audacity to shit on me after all the trust and goodwill I showed for you, you will be the first vendor I'll happily report as scammer. You're welcome.
Holy shit nice work mus
I am happy you have shared this information! Fuck these shitty vendors
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hello Im posting a quick review on a sample I bought from arigolo :http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/3e52ecfb60
He sells very nice cheap meth based pills just popping 3 of these pills is considered a high dose so this is good quality and very clean I HAD NO COMEDOWN AT ALL after preloading my vitamins eating a full meal before and hydrating myself , and I was still capable of feeling the euphoria goodness . 1 pill is a good dosage if you have no tolerance you will feel ALOT of euphoria and be high for 5-8 hours , very tweaked and stimulated ofc this is perfect in public or with friends . he ships from Canada but his packaging is excellent . anyone thats need a simple way of getting high or an alternative to ritalin or addmeds is THIS! also I had initially asked for 2 pills to be ordered instead to my grand suprise there was 20! so I was able to enjoy these for some time and I still have some left :)
heres his vendor page he has 100% feedback rate :
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/3e52ecfb60
if anyone who has a regent marquis test I would like to know the results , im 100% these are amphetamine based pills im not so sure if its meth like it claims but either way it gives good euphoria nad makes me tweaked and happy/talktative.
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hello Im posting a quick review on a sample I bought from arigolo :http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/3e52ecfb60
He sells very nice cheap meth based pills just popping 3 of these pills is considered a high dose so this is good quality and very clean I HAD NO COMEDOWN AT ALL after preloading my vitamins eating a full meal before and hydrating myself , and I was still capable of feeling the euphoria goodness . 1 pill is a good dosage if you have no tolerance you will feel ALOT of euphoria and be high for 5-8 hours , very tweaked and stimulated ofc this is perfect in public or with friends . he ships from Canada but his packaging is excellent . anyone thats need a simple way of getting high or an alternative to ritalin or addmeds is THIS! also I had initially asked for 2 pills to be ordered instead to my grand suprise there was 20! so I was able to enjoy these for some time and I still have some left :)
heres his vendor page he has 100% feedback rate :
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/3e52ecfb60
if anyone who has a regent marquis test I would like to know the results , im 100% these are amphetamine based pills im not so sure if its meth like it claims but either way it gives good euphoria nad makes me tweaked and happy/talktative.
thank you very much for your feedback.
3 pills is way too much. 1 or 2 pills is enough for very good buzz.
Also, I am not certain the reagent on my pills. This is normal. I am a big buyer, i buy in wholesales and resell in pack of 1k usually here. In my country/province, Speed pills are known very much. I was never asked for reagent. Anyone in my province know that my speed pills are the best quality of all canada.
I never had any complain from anyone that buy pills from me.
Is it meth? Amphetamines? I don't know. From my SR customer comments it would appear that this is NOT meth as I though but amphetamines instead.
We will soon remove the pack of 20 pills to make pack of 50 pills the minimum order.
Thank you for reading, to our customer thank you for purshase.
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I would like to introduce myself as I already seem to be getting shit on here. I'm offering 4 x 500mg samples to those who have a decent history on here. My product is high quality and clean amphetamines. Not the caffeine and cathinone shite that is doing the rounds. I wouldn't buy it otherwise. I'll put up a listing and if you think you want a sample send me a message and let me know your credentials. I won't send to sample hunters.
I have been a member on this site since Feb 2011 . I have an original vending account which I didn't even have to pay for, in short, I only come on here when I have quality to sell because I don't need the hassle and bitching over poor quality product. I have strong, clean amphetamines, if you want them then buy some.
Please check out my products:
Thanks
You're typing words that mean nothing.. you only come here when you have quality product? dude you have a forum account with 4 posts and no one has heard of you... I'd love for someone to show up with super wet fkn amphetamine paste that is good but it never is. Why the hell do you sell it wet? oh right to increase the weight.. and when it's dried you lose what, 50% of weight?
No one has sold "paste" on here that has been good. 90% of the speed being sold here is bunk/scam (actually the number is higher than 90%)
Predominately, it's the "paste" that is the worst shite. I'm not wasting any more coins on uncomfirmed sellers. Your first rating is pretty much typed EXACTLY as your product description which is dodgy as fuck. You didn't address that at all did you.
Fucking sick of all these dodgy cunts. I guess you need to be a complete junkie to be able to tolerate all these druggies trying to make some coin for their opiate habits.
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Is it meth? Amphetamines? I don't know. From my SR customer comments it would appear that this is NOT meth as I though but amphetamines instead.
I actually never considered buying from you, until recently.
In some jurisdictions 20 pills can get you a much higher penalty than the equivalent amount of amphetamine powder. If you're really unlucky the prosecutor will argue that the pills are meant to be sold as ecstasy and presume an intent to distribute. You might be able to prove him wrong, but it's a shitty starting point defence-wise.
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Müslix I don't know what you mean when you are calling out the ,,fellow countrymen" of AC, and I hope you're not talking about Germans. I know last time it was supposed to sort of a joke but now that things are heating up, please remember that although with speed there have been lots of bad experiences with Germans but a lot of us are good!! If you're not talking about Germans just ignore all this lol! XP
The first batch of AC I did was really good. But that was the also the first time I did speed. Even though I think the effects were typical of speed now that I've also done speed from BM, Amsterdope and DMTdoodeeLSD. But I'm going to trust you since you do seem to be well educated and experienced.
And I had such a good feeling about AC too. Sucks that I was wrong about him.
I also think that GermanExpress got caught. He refunded some orders so maybe a skeleton crew? It wouldn't be very smart to build up such a good reputation and then just fuck everybody over, but unfortunately I've seen it many times myself so yeah there's a big chance he was a scammer but I just want to have faith.
About speed paste. Like müslix and others said, it's a huge red flag whenever someone says speed paste, or if it's freebase or whatever. Amphetamine is gaseous at room temperature when it's freebase. It is converted to sulfate salt, sacharate salt or some other salt to be consumed. For example, the American ADHD medication Adderall is d-amph sulfate, d-amp sacharate, l-amp sulfate and l-amp sacharate in certain proportions. Boymaster's is [I'm assuming] racemic (both d- and l-amp) amphetamine sulfate in unknown proportions, cut with lactose (he stated that himself, I have no problem with it, it's high purity).
Speed should not be wet. Ever.
I also prefer racemic amphetamine over dextroamphetamine, because I like feeling tweaked and super hyper and going really fast.
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I would like to introduce myself as I already seem to be getting shit on here. I'm offering 4 x 500mg samples to those who have a decent history on here. My product is high quality and clean amphetamines. Not the caffeine and cathinone shite that is doing the rounds. I wouldn't buy it otherwise. I'll put up a listing and if you think you want a sample send me a message and let me know your credentials. I won't send to sample hunters.
I have been a member on this site since Feb 2011 . I have an original vending account which I didn't even have to pay for, in short, I only come on here when I have quality to sell because I don't need the hassle and bitching over poor quality product. I have strong, clean amphetamines, if you want them then buy some.
Please check out my products:
Thanks
You're typing words that mean nothing.. you only come here when you have quality product? dude you have a forum account with 4 posts and no one has heard of you... I'd love for someone to show up with super wet fkn amphetamine paste that is good but it never is. Why the hell do you sell it wet? oh right to increase the weight.. and when it's dried you lose what, 50% of weight?
No one has sold "paste" on here that has been good. 90% of the speed being sold here is bunk/scam (actually the number is higher than 90%)
Predominately, it's the "paste" that is the worst shite. I'm not wasting any more coins on uncomfirmed sellers. Your first rating is pretty much typed EXACTLY as your product description which is dodgy as fuck. You didn't address that at all did you.
Fucking sick of all these dodgy cunts. I guess you need to be a complete junkie to be able to tolerate all these druggies trying to make some coin for their opiate habits.
if you would like to try my speed pills , you may order pack of 20 and pm me on SR to have discount on shipping
I guarente you that my speed are not junk or scam thats being sold over here. My speed pills are the best quality of all canada, and in my province those speed pills are very much known.
I would love to have you as customer you would see what is good speed if you took my pills. I am 100% certain that you NEVER had as good as my speed.
People liked the old ICE speed pills, but the ICE was complete total shit compare to my speed pills.
Hopefully will see you as customer for some real speed not junk ;)
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Is it meth? Amphetamines? I don't know. From my SR customer comments it would appear that this is NOT meth as I though but amphetamines instead.
From what itweaker says, no way this is meth. But I am judging from only these few lines of text.
I actually never considered buying from you, until recently. I read an article about a Serbian (yes Europe) Amphetamine lab bust some time back. They created different(!!) amp-salts and pressed pills. This is pretty much unheard of in EU-market. It turned out they didn't sell a single pill in EU, but shipped it overseas. They supposedly were the creators of the original "excel pills", never heard about that. Maybe you can explain.
Does your packaging survive EU-customs? I would have to put a mailbox in jeopardy and I would be very unhappy if it gets compromised.
Please give samples to a regular Adderall user. Those guys should be able to tell how they compare quality and more importantly strength-wise. There seem to be 3 types of canadian pills around atm and no one puts up a quality picture. Big turn off for me. I don't care if you have a big bag of some pills, I want to see what I will get if I decided to buy.
The laboratory that created those pills are living in montreal, canada. I have seen their factory with my eyes. This is no way related with some serbian lab. Not to mention that a close friend to the factory is from bosnia, and he really really dislike serbian people so I really, really doubt that he would accept to sell serbian pills considering when he see serbian down here he look at them like he wanted to kill them.
There is 100% no way that my laboratory/factory is reselling serbian pills.
If you were living in canada I would be more than happy to give you free sample.
I have customer in UK and he has received his pack of 20 pills.
I already shipped 15 packages I will surely not give any free sample at this stade of my development. I offered pack of 20 before for 50% discount with free shipping. If you wanted to order a pack of 20 you are welcome depending on your location I will make you discount on shipping.
My pills are the best, and I do not doubt it. There is no way anyone have same high quality pills. ( i do not talk worldwide but in canada and usa ).
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Is it meth? Amphetamines? I don't know. From my SR customer comments it would appear that this is NOT meth as I though but amphetamines instead.
I actually never considered buying from you, until recently.
In some jurisdictions 20 pills can get you a much higher penalty than the equivalent amount of amphetamine powder. If you're really unlucky the prosecutor will argue that the pills are meant to be sold as ecstasy and presume an intent to distribute. You might be able to prove him wrong, but it's a shitty starting point defence-wise.
There is no way that my pills can be counted as ecstasy. They would do reagent test and definetly see ingredient is no where near ecstasy. Even if they are, if they are all in same bag they will know its for personal use. Same as powder, you can't say comment like this. they test the reagent. If they see its X than you get problem for X and not for Y. If you have the pills on seperate bags you will 100% get accuse for redistribution. If they are all on same bag, its personal use.
Like any drug, if you have small quantity with 5-10 doses all on same bag, there very low amount of chance that you will get 'redistribution' charge. If they are all on separate bags, than you are done.
If what retain you from buying pills is that you fear having bigger problem than having powder, my guess is you should stop doing drugs.
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Just a quick note, as I promised to update upon sampling BrainDeal's amph. However, after seeing müslix' screenshots of his "product", I will not sample his stuff, even if it gets here some day (he didn't bother to reply to my messages on the forum). So, right now I'm waiting for MrFireUK's new batch - looking forward to it very much I must say.
Btw, there's a new listing: []== SPEED PASTE!!! 55-60% [][] 10g [][] ==[] from AfterHour (german seller). Price is acceptable, but 10g is just way too much for me personally. If anyone cares to sample it, let us know how it goes!
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Is it meth? Amphetamines? I don't know. From my SR customer comments it would appear that this is NOT meth as I though but amphetamines instead.
I'm worried about the fact that you don't know exactly what it is that you're selling to your customers. :o
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Is it meth? Amphetamines? I don't know. From my SR customer comments it would appear that this is NOT meth as I though but amphetamines instead.
I'm worried about the fact that you don't know exactly what it is that you're selling to your customers. :o
I understand your concern.
The thing is, in canada/montreal the speed pills are very much known. Everyone try to sell those, very few amount of people have good quality. The factory will NEVER ever tell whats inside his pills for obvious reason of those pills are known to be the best here. They goes by name of "SPEED" when we talk about those speed, everyone here know the pill buzz. Everyone know how to take a pills, the important here is that the pills are good and the buzz gets good. The factory will NEVER disclose the information about those pills, its like a secret for them because they are the #1 quality of canada, if people were to know exactly what was their pills, than they would start making similar to them therefor they would have competitor on the rank of #1.
I offer discount on shipping, 60$ for 20 pills is nothing I think, for this quality of pills.
Maybe some of you want to know reagent, I understand. But, I will never have reagent for those pills, and If i were to ask my factory he would morelikely stop selling to me. All our customer said those were the best pills they took, those are very very good stuff. I Don't know what you want more.
Would you order more because u knew the reagent? if yes than make order for 20 pills and you will test them yourself, with discoutned shipping.
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The factory will NEVER disclose the information about those pills, its like a secret for them because they are the #1 quality of canada
Lol what piece of bullshit is that, it's not some kind of secret prize winning German bratwurst recipe.
What you North-Americans call speed is most likely methamphetamine.
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The factory will NEVER disclose the information about those pills, its like a secret for them because they are the #1 quality of canada
Lol what piece of bullshit is that, it's not some kind of secret prize winning German bratwurst recipe.
What you North-Americans call speed is most likely methamphetamine.
Why would I tell bullshit? I already shipped over 10 packages, what would be the point in telling bullshit.
Those pills are very good speed, and anywhere in the world they are good. Why would i tell crap. All my customer are VERY happy, canada, usa, uk. Everyone said those are very good pills and 2 of my customer said they were not meth but amphetamines because of the good smooth buzz and the fact there is no fuckup of your body on downfall.
I am not here to tell crap, like you may think.
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Is it meth? Amphetamines? I don't know. From my SR customer comments it would appear that this is NOT meth as I though but amphetamines instead.
I actually never considered buying from you, until recently.
In some jurisdictions 20 pills can get you a much higher penalty than the equivalent amount of amphetamine powder. If you're really unlucky the prosecutor will argue that the pills are meant to be sold as ecstasy and presume an intent to distribute. You might be able to prove him wrong, but it's a shitty starting point defence-wise.
There is no way that my pills can be counted as ecstasy. They would do reagent test and definetly see ingredient is no where near ecstasy. Even if they are, if they are all in same bag they will know its for personal use. Same as powder, you can't say comment like this. they test the reagent. If they see its X than you get problem for X and not for Y. If you have the pills on seperate bags you will 100% get accuse for redistribution. If they are all on same bag, its personal use.
Like any drug, if you have small quantity with 5-10 doses all on same bag, there very low amount of chance that you will get 'redistribution' charge. If they are all on separate bags, than you are done.
If what retain you from buying pills is that you fear having bigger problem than having powder, my guess is you should stop doing drugs.
I'm sorry, maybe I was unclear.
What I mean is not that they'll think the pills contain MDMA, since obviously they will analyse them. The actual content is, however, not always a decisive factor when deciding on punishment. In parts of Scandinavia it's enough that the drug in question could be passed off as ecstasy to an unsuspecting customer. This is because they believe drugs in pill form are more appealing to kids and teenagers than drugs in powder form, which according to them that makes it a more severe crime to possess them.. but I digress.
If customs find 20 ecstasy-looking pills in my mail, the police/prosecutor will assume they are for distribution (as E). They will then prioritize their investigation of my case according to that assumption. This means a higher likelihood of police searching my house, a higher likelihood of them tapping my phone, etc. Even before the thing goes to trial, I'll be worse off due to the extra police resources directed at me. On top of that, the burden of proof is on me to show that the pills are in fact not meant to be passed off as E. This could be pretty hard since speed pills are basically unheard of here.
Now don't get me wrong, I think speed pills sound great. I would have ordered some from mrouid long ago if he didn't charge such ridiculous shipping rates. I will quite likely give your product a shot. But I'm aware of the additional risk and can take precautions to counter it. So I'm in now way trying to scare people into not buying your product, but I think those affected should be aware of the applicable local law.
tl;dr The authorities in some countries really really really don't like E and the legal systems in those countries reflect that fact. This affects people living there even if what they order is not MDMA/ecstasy at all.
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Is it meth? Amphetamines? I don't know. From my SR customer comments it would appear that this is NOT meth as I though but amphetamines instead.
I actually never considered buying from you, until recently.
In some jurisdictions 20 pills can get you a much higher penalty than the equivalent amount of amphetamine powder. If you're really unlucky the prosecutor will argue that the pills are meant to be sold as ecstasy and presume an intent to distribute. You might be able to prove him wrong, but it's a shitty starting point defence-wise.
There is no way that my pills can be counted as ecstasy. They would do reagent test and definetly see ingredient is no where near ecstasy. Even if they are, if they are all in same bag they will know its for personal use. Same as powder, you can't say comment like this. they test the reagent. If they see its X than you get problem for X and not for Y. If you have the pills on seperate bags you will 100% get accuse for redistribution. If they are all on same bag, its personal use.
Like any drug, if you have small quantity with 5-10 doses all on same bag, there very low amount of chance that you will get 'redistribution' charge. If they are all on separate bags, than you are done.
If what retain you from buying pills is that you fear having bigger problem than having powder, my guess is you should stop doing drugs.
I'm sorry, maybe I was unclear.
What I mean is not that they'll think the pills contain MDMA, since obviously they will analyse them. The actual content is, however, not always a decisive factor when deciding on punishment. In parts of Scandinavia it's enough that the drug in question could be passed off as ecstasy to an unsuspecting customer. This is because they believe drugs in pill form are more appealing to kids and teenagers than drugs in powder form, which according to them that makes it a more severe crime to possess them.. but I digress.
If customs find 20 ecstasy-looking pills in my mail, the police/prosecutor will assume they are for distribution (as E). They will then prioritize their investigation of my case according to that assumption. This means a higher likelihood of police searching my house, a higher likelihood of them tapping my phone, etc. Even before the thing goes to trial, I'll be worse off due to the extra police resources directed at me. On top of that, the burden of proof is on me to show that the pills are in fact not meant to be passed off as E. This could be pretty hard since speed pills are basically unheard of here.
Now don't get me wrong, I think speed pills sound great. I would have ordered some from mrouid long ago if he didn't charge such ridiculous shipping rates. I will quite likely give your product a shot. But I'm aware of the additional risk and can take precautions to counter it. So I'm in now way trying to scare people into not buying your product, but I think those affected should be aware of the applicable local law.
tl;dr The authorities in some countries really really really don't like E and the legal systems in those countries reflect that fact. This affects people living there even if what they order is not MDMA/ecstasy at all.
I understand more your point now.
In my coutnry they are fighting powder, not necessary amphetamines, but they are fighting powder drugs because they are too much around.
Maybe in some other country its the pills. But as I said, if they pills are in one bag they will consider it as personal dose. if they are separate bag , you are done.
In canada and USA thats how it work for any small quantity of any drug. If its one bag its personal take, but if its different bag its for resell.
I will give you very good discount on shipping just drop me pm on SR before order with your country and i will make you something for shipping.
On side note, I suggest you never order on your house because thats drug. either 1g of powder of 1kg of powder, or 1speed or 1000 speeds, its still drug. I suggest you never take risk to receive that on your home residence.
I hope see you soon as customer! :) You will definetly prefer my pills are any other speed you take.
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rigolo: I'll take you up on that offer as soon as I find an address where I can receive it :)
To everyone else: A very easy way of testing if powder/pills contain a significant amount of methamphetamine is to try to smoke it. If you get high, there's probably meth in there. You may call this the Valentine Reagent Test.
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rigolo: I'll take you up on that offer as soon as I find an address where I can receive it :)
To everyone else: A very easy way of testing if powder/pills contain a significant amount of methamphetamine is to try to smoke it. If you get high, there's probably meth in there. You may call this the Valentine Reagent Test.
i really strongly advise you to not smoke those pills lol people take themwith nose sometime, or like normal pill, but not smoke ...
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if someone tries nbome's pep, please share your review here.
I'm not taking anymore leaps of faith, especially after that yellow oily goop that hofman was peddling a while ago
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yeah, ill second that. Very interested in hearing a trip reports on nbomes stuff
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i really strongly advise you to not smoke those pills lol people take themwith nose sometime, or like normal pill, but not smoke ...
Haha, I don't mean anyone should make a habit out of inhaling pill-binder laced smoke :). I'd filter out binders that are not soluble in water, wash it with acetone and/or ether, and then smoke whatever is left. For science!
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i really strongly advise you to not smoke those pills lol people take themwith nose sometime, or like normal pill, but not smoke ...
Haha, I don't mean anyone should make a habit out of inhaling pill-binder laced smoke :). I'd filter out binders that are not soluble in water, wash it with acetone and/or ether, and then smoke whatever is left. For science!
i really doubt this would work. . . no one ever talked or though about smoking those in here. . . unless people smoke them but hide to not look stupid? Nan! I really dont think people smoke those lol!!
If it was Meth i think peope would smokes it.
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also, fellow amp enthusiasts,
can we all agree on no more "will update on quality later" feedbacks that never do?
it would be especially helpful against these newer pep vendors that spring up shop, take btc, then disappear
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Hi All,
Just wanted to update about Discount Drug's Nazi Speed paste that no-one seems to review.
It IS cut highly, and is no where near the quality of say German Express's . However its probably still above the street quality that you can buy here.
Realisticly for the price - its an okay buy.
Recieved to Australia within 2 weeks - the packaging nothing the write home about , but obviously got through customs.
I would probably give the gear a 6.5 out of 10.
I have a order from Juergen on its way so I will update
Is there any other vendors people think i should try? I just want to buy 100g of something that is worth having that much of :)
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Is there any other vendors people think i should try?
dunno if you already tryed speed pills, but if you did not, I would be happy to have you as customer :) My pills are very high quality, the topnotch quality. You can pm me on SR with you shipping country so i can give you shipping discount.
I am new to SR but I am not new in town.
Hopefully will see you as customer :) Thanks
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I tried the last batch Amsterdope had, (I mean it was 40% or so). And that was for sure, some really proper speed. Me, and 2 friends did about one gram, from 22.00 to 07.00 (24h). And damn it was nice with some quality speed again. Havn't tried the new batch he have..
Last time was a 10g order with ST, and we snorted about one gram each that night. It was not even close to the feeling and euphoria i got with Amsterdope.
Taught i would share my exp with speed :)
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I tried the last batch Amsterdope had, (I mean it was 40% or so). And that was for sure, some really proper speed. Me, and 2 friends did about one gram, from 22.00 to 07.00 (24h). And damn it was nice with some quality speed again. Havn't tried the new batch he have..
Last time was a 10g order with ST, and we snorted about one gram each that night. It was not even close to the feeling and euphoria i got with Amsterdope.
Taught i would share my exp with speed :)
all feedback is helpful, especially with all the sketchy ass vendors that have been passing through. have you gotten to try BM's stuff yet?
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i´m awaiting an speed sample from NBOME, i will update how good it is after arrival, i hope it comes tomorrow already or atleast Thursday
i hope its good then i will buy from him alot of speed if BM stock is out
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I am also waiting for the sample of speed from NBOME. if I will get it will describe the quality in detail after the weekend. C U ;)
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Would really be helpful if someone volunteers to sum up the vendor's and their goods quality, every couple of pages or days, w/e...just some system in all this mess. I have a small demand, which means I couldn't possibly have an objective view on the matter, so it would have to be someone unbiased, regular visitor / user, etc. How does this sound?
Most vendors come and go, good or bad, the ones I've dealt with at the very least, but my *list* would go on like this:
1. boymaster - [gone?] in short, as we all know, nice rather clean amph
2. drAmsterdam - [gone!] pretty ok amph, remember the prevalent floral smell, heh
3. derSpeedDoctor - [gone!] utter rubbish, i don't even wanna know what went down my nose,
additionally, if I have to speculate, I believe anyone should stay as far away from all the amph. the following vendor(s) provide [up to date on 1st Aug.]:
- aakoven [damn sure actually]
The thing is, whenever a person comes the listings and the feedback system has absolutely no informational value and provide zero guarantee, that the product is going to be even half decent.
This is the case with all the new folk as well as returning customers like me. The forum is quite easy to find, and even though this particular topic has over 100pages [had like 40 the last time i was here aprox. 1 month ago] would not be hard for anyone to check at least 10~20 random pages, which I often do, and come across a simple or comprehensive summary of what could possibly be expected from which vendor with listings on.
In fact, currently I have this very dilemma, who should I order from. As Boymaster's gone or has no listings, GermanExpress I've had no chance to try, AspirantCooper has this ongoing debacle - meaning thats a good indication to keep my hands off, and the others I don't even know.
Would someone assist please?
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Müslix I don't know what you mean when you are calling out the ,,fellow countrymen" of AC, and I hope you're not talking about Germans. I know last time it was supposed to sort of a joke but now that things are heating up, please remember that although with speed there have been lots of bad experiences with Germans but a lot of us are good!! If you're not talking about Germans just ignore all this lol! XP
The first batch of AC I did was really good. But that was the also the first time I did speed. Even though I think the effects were typical of speed now that I've also done speed from BM, Amsterdope and DMTdoodeeLSD. But I'm going to trust you since you do seem to be well educated and experienced.
And I had such a good feeling about AC too. Sucks that I was wrong about him.
If I wanted to point out a german, I would not use "fellow countryman" because that wouldn't narrow it down by much, lol. He is from that country where you guys claim all your stolen cars go :D (that's actually a real german statistic, should be findable via wiki). Not many people around from that place and even less that give their location away. It was the most obvious connection between those two.
Since my NL experience I don't give much about countries reputations anymore. I'd consider Germany one of the more solid countries though (due to their export volume and my personal online-shopping experience ;) ). Their citizens tend to get easily offended though, but yet DE is the one country who has 'beef' with pretty much all it's neighbors. lol.
No offense to you really, but how can you be sure it was real amp if you never tried it? Everyone who seems to claim it being good strikes me as someone who is not extremely experienced (again no offense meant, everyone was new at some point. I don't have a problem with that at all, just with those guys who refuse to learn or to accept 'scientific' arguments and then claim to know it all. I get that a lot, people saying I don't know my stuff cause last week they had some Sulphate Base Paste Dextro-Amp and they were high for a week. Shit like that, this thread is full of it).
I previously thought: ok, his first batch was awesome but he got ripped off on this batch. Couple of problems with this thesis. The most obvious one is the lack of reviews. Compare the amount and the 'intensity' of the trip-reports/reviews that just one batch of BM's speed generated here with the reports created by ALL of AC's 'stuff', all batches, everything, incl AC asked for reviews with pay, BM didn't. All that ever surfaced was oneliners. By now I am pretty convinced he never had good amp to begin with, mainly due to how he handled the whole situation. Calling me a clueless kid instead of just providing proof that he's right.
I said that on one of my first posts regarding AC, when I was just suspecting all of this and I still stand by my opinion: In my mind this is the shadiest scam possible. I don't even want to know what kind of damage this can or has caused by now.
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You forgot to mention DiscountDrugs which is an utter joke. He will send you erratic responses then ignore you and is a selective scammer with his other products. The diazepam I received from him was complete bunk (1-2mg at most) compared to other generics such as MSJ which were like 5 times stronger despite being generic. The "best base" arrived way underweight (like half a gram short) and 300mg didn't do ANYTHING. He made some excuse about unstable this and that then said he already reshipped some other stuff and a line of coke or something.. well, he didn't. Don't go near that vendor. AFter promising a reship and asking for my address (pretending to care) like twice he simply started ignoring my msgs, off to scam another day. Can't believe that guy still has listings along with AA koven they're the two biggest frauds on here. If I ran SR I would ban them from the speed section at least. I guess you can just come here, sell caffeine+solvent+0.00000000000001g amphetamine to no repercussions. If it was face to face sales they'd been battered by now.
Also there was the dmtdoodelsd or something like that. He came in here offering free samples then disappeared- did not send anyone samples. I asked when he was going to.. (I was pming him and he just sent rude responses and excuses in line with what a drug addict would send.. his product was tested by someone to be pretty much shit). Don't know if he still lists his speed after insisting that it was top quality.. can't be bothered wading through all the bullshit right now.
Due to this situation I have been clean for weeks! which isn't bad, the first guy to come around with some good quality gear will blow my mind.
I would say it's more like 95%+ scam/shit/caffeine.
Right now I am holding all my bitcoins for BoyMaster. I am prepared to try these speed pills but I don't want to give even 60+shipping to another potential scammer. I'd buy 10 or so if they're good then I'd buy a lot as it would be nice to have more than 1 vendor. MrFireUK don't ship to a neighboring country so can't try that...
I've tried pretty much EVERY RC stimulant, I was one of the first people to sample mephedrone in early 2004. I've also tried good quality meth so I'd know if there was something beyond amphetamine in them. By principle I don't feel like spending more than $30-40 right now on experimenting. Anyways I'll PM rigolo and we'll see what's what.
By the way, bitcoin prices soared now, highest I've seen 9.45 or something crazy. Any vendor who thinks this gives them an excuse to sell amphetamine or other product at twice the cost of last month can go suck it.
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Forgot them, the shit I read was far beyond ridiculous. Vendors, if you don't know your shit, then STFU. There's no case in all of humanity were bragging about shit you have no idea about did you any good. "Wenn man keine Ahnung hat, einfach mal Fresse halten."
If I ran SR I would ban them from the speed section at least. I guess you can just come here, sell caffeine+solvent+0.00000000000001g amphetamine to no repercussions. If it was face to face sales they'd been battered by now.
That, besides the obvious FE flaw, is a major problem here. The FE-requiring scammers, like AAkoven and his other accounts and affiliates (dude, this shit is so fuckin' obvious, but it amazes me how SR buyers can be fooled), still generate profit for SR. And I guess they are pretty high up on the list of money-generators. They get paid always, meaning SR gets it's commission always, no resolution center, nothing. The forum is the only thing that keeps that whole place from imploding. I can't count the times anymore that I've been called a troll or downvoted for pointing this out. It got to the point, were I really changed my mind: if you FE here, you deserve to be scammed. No legit vendor needs FE, none of my favs does, in every category. It's that simple. FE, you will get scammed, you deserve it.
This speed is made from BMK oil it's paste and perfectly to mix.
It is wet and store in the freezer now, but I dry it before I sent. This because of losing a little bit of weight. Unless you want it in paste.
It make no sense for me to sell less quality. Why? Because I'm new here and I want earn only positive feedbacks.
I like OldAmsterdam, he already apologizes for shitty speed in the description, lol :D
Btw. BMK = P2P = most common precursor to amp. He tries to make himself look smart by stating BMK and then tells us it's all paste. lol. nice try AA.
edit: I'm just poking fun at the vendor. Don't take it too seriously, but tbh I believe he's just another shitty nl-vendor. Feel free to prove me wrong (I always say that and no one ever does, sadly :( )
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All seems rather dire again. Last lot i tried was GermanExpress and although it was half decent there was defo some kind of rc cut. Felt like MDPV got me into a crazy paranoid state which i have never felt before on great phet. Might take a punt on mrfire. Worth it?
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Lonely kamel is probably a selective scammer who steals half of every third/something customers money. Gives 50% refund but i bet he never actually sends anything i bet >:( vac sealed and even a 5g of non vac sealed (also from spain) speed orders have arrived inside EU in a week...i ordered speed from lonely kamel and now almost 30 days from shipping and not even a customs seizure letter.
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I tried the last batch Amsterdope had, (I mean it was 40% or so). And that was for sure, some really proper speed. Me, and 2 friends did about one gram, from 22.00 to 07.00 (24h). And damn it was nice with some quality speed again. Havn't tried the new batch he have..
Last time was a 10g order with ST, and we snorted about one gram each that night. It was not even close to the feeling and euphoria i got with Amsterdope.
Taught i would share my exp with speed :)
all feedback is helpful, especially with all the sketchy ass vendors that have been passing through. have you gotten to try BM's stuff yet?
BoyMaster? No.. I've added him as my fav, and hoping soon to try it. If he comes back :)
Have someone tried Amsterdopes's new batch?
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I hope that you guys will soon consider me "Trusted" vendor.
My speed pills give you the same effects as amphetamines powder, the only difference is that my pills least longer and you need less to have the same effect as the powder.
From my past customers, they last for hour's with perfect buzz just for one pill.
20 pills sample is only 60$ + shipping , but I offer big discount on shipping if you pm me on SR asking for discount from forum.
I am here to be a wholeseller of those pills, They do not have good speed pills in europe, I would really love to take that market. I beleive my price are better than any other pills speed seller ( 10$ for 1 ice pillsfrom another vendor, when my pills are same quality if not better )
Pm me for bigger package! :)
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for my first order in a while, i'm sampling arigolo's speed pills - will post up with a review once I've tried 'em.
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Damn i wonder how you guys haven't switched to meth yet. From this thread it looks like SR speed market is seriously fucked up.
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So glad I managed to snag 5g of boymasters speed a month ago(still have about 4g's left :P), market looks to be gone to total shit again.
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I agree with all of you about the generally low quality of the speed here, but I have to say it's not much different than what I am used to from street-speed here in Germany .
I can't get better speed anywhere here (only meth which is not cut so heavily). About 14 years ago I bought speed for the first time and it was the same bad quality (it was not a paste though), and only cost 8DM/g (4EUR) then.
The consumers here are used to this product, they want a cheap powder they can put up their nose in huge lines. If you gave them pure amphetamine they would overdose horribly but they would not buy it in the first place they want it cheap.
So I understand your frustration with the speed on SR but in my humble opinion the SR market is just reflecting the street speed market. We should not insult the vendors (besides scammers of course) but talk to them and tell them we want clean product - not some caffeine-sugar-phet-concoction some dealer peed on to make it a "base paste".
Most of them are selling bulk and are therefore either cutting it themselves or are at least in a position to talk to their supplier about it.
Like Müslix said, many are ignorant of the basic chemistry (selling "base" or "fresh paste" etc) so they are not telling nonsense out of evil intentions.
MrFireUK already promised to make a deal with his supplier to get better stuff... let's see how that goes...
And one thing more: Where can I get Marquis or Mandelin reagent? I don't want crazy expensive one-use eztests but a dropper bottle if possible. The former is just some formaldehyde and sulfuric acid, what kind of rip-off artist asks 6EUR for less than a milliliter for this...
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The speed dok will still be on here in another guise. How he got to No 1 in the listings? Had to be baiting with good speed and shill accounts with selective scamming also. But in the drugs world this happens. At least on SR getting burnt does not mean getting the shit kicked out of you and muggings.
Guy owes me for the 5 grams of sleeping powder I got.
Boymasters speed was insane. That was my last use of speed - 100mg wiped me out in the end, it was too much!
DD never made good with me either and I also got a promise of 'some coke for you'. Not that I would touch UK coke with a bargepole.
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+1 for Julia Set :)
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thx! ;D
as for quality of speed being terrible on here, I thought mrouid's ICE pills were great. if arigolo's are better, hurray for us!
and as for 'switching to meth'.... yuck.
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Well, ive put a small order in with mrfire. Not sure what to expect, but ill report back
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hello Im posting a quick review on a sample I bought from arigolo :http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/3e52ecfb60
He sells very nice cheap meth based pills just popping 3 of these pills is considered a high dose so this is good quality and very clean I HAD NO COMEDOWN AT ALL after preloading my vitamins eating a full meal before and hydrating myself , and I was still capable of feeling the euphoria goodness . 1 pill is a good dosage if you have no tolerance you will feel ALOT of euphoria and be high for 5-8 hours , very tweaked and stimulated ofc this is perfect in public or with friends . he ships from Canada but his packaging is excellent . anyone thats need a simple way of getting high or an alternative to ritalin or addmeds is THIS! also I had initially asked for 2 pills to be ordered instead to my grand suprise there was 20! so I was able to enjoy these for some time and I still have some left :)
heres his vendor page he has 100% feedback rate :
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/3e52ecfb60
if anyone who has a regent marquis test I would like to know the results , im 100% these are amphetamine based pills im not so sure if its meth like it claims but either way it gives good euphoria nad makes me tweaked and happy/talktative.
thank you very much for your feedback.
3 pills is way too much. 1 or 2 pills is enough for very good buzz.
Also, I am not certain the reagent on my pills. This is normal. I am a big buyer, i buy in wholesales and resell in pack of 1k usually here. In my country/province, Speed pills are known very much. I was never asked for reagent. Anyone in my province know that my speed pills are the best quality of all canada.
I never had any complain from anyone that buy pills from me.
Is it meth? Amphetamines? I don't know. From my SR customer comments it would appear that this is NOT meth as I though but amphetamines instead.
We will soon remove the pack of 20 pills to make pack of 50 pills the minimum order.
Thank you for reading, to our customer thank you for purshase.
No problem man , honestly you guys should listen to him , I used to live in the same area for a while couple of years and most speed pills there are known to be either AMPHETAMINE OR METHAMPHETAMINE(main ingreident cut with some bull shit that results in shitty dirty comedown aka crap bunk pills) , but this is much better and cleaner , dont doubt him order and see for yourself. Like he claims his factory pills are good clean excel pills.
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I hope that you guys will soon consider me "Trusted" vendor.
My speed pills give you the same effects as amphetamines powder, the only difference is that my pills least longer and you need less to have the same effect as the powder.
From my past customers, they last for hour's with perfect buzz just for one pill.
20 pills sample is only 60$ + shipping , but I offer big discount on shipping if you pm me on SR asking for discount from forum.
I am here to be a wholeseller of those pills, They do not have good speed pills in europe, I would really love to take that market. I beleive my price are better than any other pills speed seller ( 10$ for 1 ice pillsfrom another vendor, when my pills are same quality if not better )
Pm me for bigger package! :)
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EDIT: THIS MESSAGE IS ONLY MEANT AS A PRECAUTION, IT SEEMS THAT MANY BUYERS LIKE THE SPEED PILLS OF RIGOLO
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Come on guys don't lower your guard on this one!
The chance that these are real clean amphetamine sulphate pills is very slim imo. Fact is most of these type of pills in Canada are either fake, contain all kind of different substances like mdxx but perhaps most important as knomo said and based on statistics often methamphetamine.
The whole story of rigolo especially claiming that these pills are definitely the best in Canada but at the same time doesn't know anything specific about the content is well at least to say very unconvincing. Provided the review of itweaker is genuine I highly doubt he can "feel" that it's not meth but amphetamine.
Maybe I'm wrong but this looks like a typical red flag situation if you ask me.
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=region_home®ion=1&sub_region=6
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2159#
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I hope that you guys will soon consider me "Trusted" vendor.
My speed pills give you the same effects as amphetamines powder, the only difference is that my pills least longer and you need less to have the same effect as the powder.
From my past customers, they last for hour's with perfect buzz just for one pill.
20 pills sample is only 60$ + shipping , but I offer big discount on shipping if you pm me on SR asking for discount from forum.
I am here to be a wholeseller of those pills, They do not have good speed pills in europe, I would really love to take that market. I beleive my price are better than any other pills speed seller ( 10$ for 1 ice pillsfrom another vendor, when my pills are same quality if not better )
Pm me for bigger package! :)
Come on guys don't lower your guard on this one!
The chance that these are real clean amphetamine sulphate pills is very slim imo. Fact is most of these type of pills in Canada are either fake, contain all kind of different substances like mdxx but perhaps most important as knome said and based on statistics often methamphetamine.
The whole story of rigolo especially claiming that these pills are definitely the best in Canada but at the same time doesn't know anything specific about the content is well at least to say very unconvincing. Provided the review of itweaker is genuine I highly doubt he can "feel" that it's not meth but amphetamine.
Maybe I'm wrong but this looks like a typical red flag situation if you ask me.
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=region_home®ion=1&sub_region=6
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2159#
edit: @rigolo, it's very nice that sellers post here to communicate or explain things and I totally support that but this is NOT an advertising topic.
I post here to thank people and yes communicate and explain things.
I find it funny people like you come here saying shit about my pills or even in my pm's when in fact you don't know how pills business work around here.
I bet you a grand that if you buy in big quantity around here, good pills, you will never know whats inside. Those pills are very known in here, and people do not want to know whats inside the pills but instead want to know if those pills give good & long feeling and not big downfall side effect. When they have good pills,they don't ask what inside.
All they want is the pills quality not whats inside the pills.
SPEED PILLS are as much known as weed in here, you can't just ask your supplier for what's inside your pills he will laugh at you.
I buy in big quantity ( many tens of thousands every time i buy ) I buy from same factory, for many years. I always been know to have the best quality of my city, and my city is the only one that has good pills in the whole canada. So yea, I have best pills.
After buying for many years from same factory, I have very good relation with the person. He always sold me very HQ product, I always been very much know for havin this HQ product. No one ever ask whats inside the pills. Those are speed pills. That's all there to know. Those pills are to replace amphetamines powder, and they already replaced this powder for many years in my province. People prefer those pills because effect are longer and cost less than the value of powder. Effect is as good, if not more.
Maybe some of you are living in place where SPEED PILLS are not known, I am sorry for that, and I understand that you want to know what's inside the pills but it ain't gonna happen. Those are speed pills, everyone like its feeling, no one has big downfall, no one complain, everyone's happy. When speed pills are junk, there lot of side effect, bad feeling, big downfall, and lot of complain. I don't have any of those.
If you feel like you need to trash my pills because you are not able to order a 60$ sample to be able to see the quality, It's no problem I understand. But if you could buy before trash, it would be really nice so that you can trash with the actual knowledge of what the fuck you talking about.
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If you feel like you need to trash my pills because you are not able to order a 60$ sample to be able to see the quality, It's no problem I understand. But if you could buy before trash, it would be really nice so that you can trash with the actual knowledge of what the fuck you talking about.
I am not trashing your pills and also have not claimed the pills are bad in my previous message. You are right I don't know your pills specifically but before people start pulling out their wallets like a revolver in a western movie it's very good to be suspicious here and not to take every claim for granted.
Nothing personal but it's proven time after time that Silk Road is a very tricky place for buying drugs, if the pills really are good they will sell themselves so you don't have to brag about it in this topic.
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Compared to boymaster your prices are shit. You have no description on duration of effect from 1 pill. It's just.. so random. You get upset that people are sceptical, are you really that fkn clueless? don't you realize that 95% of people here are scammers and you show up with some random pill which you don't even know what's in them. it could be fucking 4-fmp for all I know which is a highly neurotoxic research chem. I'm not going near your pills and I advice anyone to just wait for BoyMaster.
Make your own vendor thread and stop spamming about how good your completely unknown pills are that you only sell in high amounts. Don't insult me by saying I can't afford your fucking wholesale bullshit. I said sell me a few, i will send them for testing and if it's not full of shit I will buy minimum 100..
Sick of drug people, soo sick of drug people.
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Compared to boymaster your prices are shit. You have no description on duration of effect from 1 pill. It's just.. so random. You get upset that people are sceptical, are you really that fkn clueless? don't you realize that 95% of people here are scammers and you show up with some random pill which you don't even know what's in them. it could be fucking 4-fmp for all I know which is a highly neurotoxic research chem. I'm not going near your pills and I advice anyone to just wait for BoyMaster.
Make your own vendor thread and stop spamming about how good your completely unknown pills are that you only sell in high amounts. Don't insult me by saying I can't afford your fucking wholesale bullshit. I said sell me a few, i will send them for testing and if it's not full of shit I will buy minimum 100..
Sick of drug people, soo sick of drug people.
I offred you very good discount on shipping, for you to do this test. my package of 20 pills are already packed and ready to ship.
What is it 10 more pills? I paid 150$ to be able to sell on this site why would i rip you off of 10 pills seriously.
You keep saying me to stop posting on this thread but yet you continue saying bad things about me without trying the product
6 of my first order was received and no one complained, everyone were happy why would you say shit about me like this over a 30$ difference?
My order are already alll packed and ready to have their address for shipping on them. I opened my sales with 50% discount on the pack of 20pills, why you did not order those packs ??? IT was free shipping!!
I would really love to be able to prove you my saying, But I do not know. And I will not pack up 10 pills just for you. If you asked for discount instead to order a pack of 20 pills I would have said yes but you ask me to repack pills when i said that my pack of 20 are all packed.
If you wanna post bad things agaisnt me again you are welcome in my pm, no need insult me in here. and everyone who tried my pills are very happy & like them alot.
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woot muslix is back
keeping me in check from making shitty impulse buys ::)
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Thanks guys. Some actually looked like they could be good.
Noone mentioned Jurgen01 or Supertrips though, anyone?
Damn i wonder how you guys haven't switched to meth yet. From this thread it looks like SR speed market is seriously fucked up.
Yes, as most of us frustrated enough have mentioned, the fact is over 90% of times the situation is sick, especially with the amph market...though I do have a local source of meth, meth that is nice and potent, its just wayyyy tooo damaging for a body to use it, except in *emergency* situations :) Which is why I love to stay at the level of less toll-taking substances as amph.
So glad I managed to snag 5g of boymasters speed a month ago(still have about 4g's left :P), market looks to be gone to total shit again.
So had a lot of us, "the 5g that will last me forever" I actually remember telling myself. But then the summer vac's came, and "some" of us actually had to feed a few more hungry nose holes :-/
Damn those worthless friends and 'fateful' Zrće beach parties!
@ Rigolo,
Indeed, you should make your own vendor thread. People here are right, noone is saying shit about your pills. Its one thing you're out of reach, its a second that you don't know whats in them...as the majority of US market is usually meth, it worries a lot of us probably. Etc etc. im late for work =)
peace
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Jurgen outed himself as a scammer long ago..
He told us in his product description, that he convinced his mdma cook bla bla bla - to make this uber speed:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=78aa5d91a334ae5526d0104f3aae7f80.jpg well 6,5% amp might be still considered good :o
Supertrips: I cannot remember to have read anything positive about his speed.. but there is a search function in the upper right corner!
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Does anyone here have experience with meth (esp. Crystall Wife) (s)he wants to share? Interested in the opinion of speed users.
yes. I had CWs meth twice.
smokes up nicely.
just kidding :)
I found the effects quite subtle... never expected this to be a "subtle" drug to be honest. Only smoked (~70mg) it gave me a nice body rush,... Do you know those head massage things? The ones that are a bunch of wires that you put on your head and push down? It gave me that feeling on my whole head and running down my spine. amazing. But shortly later I felt somehow uneasy and like I had not slept for 20 hours.
Snorted it was much more balanced but no rush. I took very little several times (30-50mg) and was awake and alert 7+ hours. It is hard to notice the effect sometimes (but thats not different with amphetamine for me) because you're just feeling fine and awake. Can not understand at all how people get psychologically dependent on this stuff.
I had total of 1.5g and I blasted through the first g as if it was regular amp. Figured bad batch, gave it another shot and wasn't convinced again. No dopamine rush, I was expecting some über d-amp, but it was nothing like that. I even got bored,
Wow 1g in one session? I had 1 g total, it lasted me two month and I still have 0.3 left. Never more than 100mg at once.
The bored feeling is quite typical for me when I take stimulants in a nonsocial situation. With meth I was awake but calm at the same time. If you are at home alone this can feel a bit boring, but going out it's great.
It's also very hard to find a proper review, only stuff like 'smokes up nicely'. And the established guys like jpinkman are all US-based, so no opinion there.
Yes that's a problem with meth reviews in general. Or with meth in general. Have you ever found reliable information about meth ANYWHERE on the internet? One of the most popular drugs worldwide now and erowid has about 200 words of information. The only thing you find is scaremongering by the press/LE or tweaked out freaks ranting over 500 pages discussing questions like "can meth contain bug eggs because I swear there are little worms crawling out of my pores?!?!"... yuck....
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My experience on meth (that I received from a personal acquaintance who lives in an American meth capital)
The stuff was very powerful, snorting about 50-75mg bumps.
It came in pretty much unbroken glass shards.. I had a gram which lasted a long time but, it was just too powerful. More powerful than any speed I ever did. My acquaintance claimed it was produced in a high output lab in Mexico rather than a trailer somewhere and he is no liar.
The reason I don't want to use meth is because unlike amphetamine sulfate it is way more neurotoxic, I'm no expert but I believe it has more serotonergic action which amphetamine sulfate has no to little off? I preferred railing it rather than bombing (i would not smoke or iv) but both methods worked with differences. It did cause a bit more bodyload than regular amph. Meth is definitely more inbetween MDMA and amphetamine... but I could not use it to perform any work tasks, I would be too buzzed and start doing weird stuff instead.
This is why I prefer good amphetamine sulfate. I think with boymaster stuff I was having some GABA issues (like xanax would carry over and null the next day, I've seen someone mention that despite short half-lifethat were ruining the speed experience after a while.)
Then obviously I've tried the scamstuff from other sellers here and realize that BM stuff is the most legit speed.
Question:
has anyone tried MrFireUK he came in here claiming some new uncut batch and I see a new product listing by him.
also we've got another new Amsterdam seller, selling 5g of wet paste for suspiciously low price (but hey, if he's selling like 5% speed then at least that's better than the other scammers). In his description he says he does not want to dry it because it will lose it's potency!
Anyone wanna try this? :)
muslix:
i still haven't figured out how to give people upboats etc I don't see the button.
rigolo:
just make a vendor thread please. It's good you admit you don't know what's in your pills but it's bad that you don't... at least put in the description: duration of effects, types of effects etc. how many pills for an experience, is it possible to WORK and study on these pills or are they party pills (which would be indicative of meth).
If I tried them i would easily distinguish meth from sulfate anyhow... but I don't want to put that poison in my brain. Good old amphetamine sulfate is tried and tested over the years. Meth.. well.. yeah.
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Hello fellow speed-travelers,
I just received a sample of MrFireUK's new batch!
It came nicely sealed in a small bag, weighting roughly half a gram. The amph was mostly chunks which were very easy to process into a fine powdery form. I let it sit on my glas table for about 2 hours and used a credit card to make it as slender as possible. Worked like a charm. The smell of the amph is pretty strong and it's the typical smell of amphetamine. Although you can't simply go by the smell of it, because MrFireUK's current batch smells very strong as well, it's still remarkable. I can't take any pictures right now unfortunately, but there isn't really anything to show for. It looks similar to this: http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=8a93fc720fbe6f7e7a06a1b25d0ed3ee.jpg (picture taken a few pages back from cleveland steamer).
My first bump was about 25mg around 5 hours ago (damn, time is flying...). It burns quite strong for a few seconds but it's really not that bad altogether. My eyes became slightly watery for a minute or so. Not a bad sign. I could instantly tell that the amph is potent. I went outside half an hour later to attend a short lecture and felt very good. Clear headed, very alert and no edgy body load. I was able to focus on whatever I wanted and was quite "zoned in". I came back home around 2 hours after my first bump and decided to add some more fuel into my system. Again I went for around 25mg and clearly felt the effects a few minutes later. Had to go for a smoke immediately (I smoke like a train when on decent amph) and had to put on some good, loud music as well. Euphoric!
Now an hour later I'm sitting here, taking the time to compose a proper review. Now, I've had MrFireUK's first batch and flushed it down the toilet after 3-4 big lines. It couldn't keep up with GE's stuff so I decided to pause for a while until I would get my hands on some more decent speed. Am glad I did so, because it's very enjoyable to come back after a break to something this potent. I'm very impressed, and my gratitude is directed towards MrFireUK who is very easy and professional to deal with. I'm sure with this product he will be a total success here on SR, even if BM restocks anytime soon. I said this before, but there is room for more than one top vendor! And a little competition here on the speed market is definitely desirable. In the end, the consumers will profit from this.
I have no idea how pure the amph really is, I would guess around 60% +-5, but that's only a wild guess. For me personally, this is something I will go for when it comes to my personal stash. Am looking to buy 5g to get me through the summer. For a long time I was 100% sure that I'll go for BM when he restocks, but now I wouldn't hesitate to go with MrFireUK instead. This stuff is exactly what I'm looking for.
I will get back here some time during the weekend, when I've had some more time to "experiment" with this stuff. ;)
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Ah finally some feedback on the new batch ... and positive too , as expected 8)
Good to hear you're happy with the stuff - after all you've been one of the very few customers who were not satisfied with the current batch so I guess you're hard to please... even better to hear that you like it.
About a week to go , by then most/all of the old batch should be sold I guess.
Cheers
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Why didn't you like his first batch? And what is the smell like? Compared to the old batch?
I had been going on GE's stuff for weeks before I ran out, and MrFireUK's "old" batch was the next best stuff I could get my hands on (BM was already out of stock by the time, and we all know that GE disappeared).
Maybe I was spoiled and my tolerance had built up, I'm not sure. It just didn't work for me at all. It gave me a very edgy feeling, e.g. my hands were pretty shaky and I felt very uneasy. I didn't experience any signs of euphoria or a sense of well-being. I tried it on two different occasions with the exact same results. Maybe I was in bad shape overall, I'm not sure. I felt so weird after 3 big lines that I decided to take a break and get rid of the stuff.
I suppose it was either a) tolerance and thus maybe needing much more of it than I was used to from GE's stuff, or b) there was some cutting agent in there that made me feel very uneasy or c) my judgement at the time was impaired. Either way, I'm very happy how things went. Took a break afterwards and had some important exams which are just finished now, so now is a perfect time to enjoy some time off with decent, clean amph. 8)
Did you try MrFireUK's new batch already, müslix? If I remember correctly, you were one of the few guys that samples were sent out to.
Edit: Some more information on the taste/smell, as requested by müslix: The smell may be compared to something that is a bit rotten. Maybe fish, but not that extreme. It's a mixture of the chemical amphetamine smell mixed with a bit of rottenness. I hope that's sufficient (I can't do any better than this). 8) As for the taste, I don't have much to add. All I remember is that it's not disgusting or weird, it's very similar to GE's stuff. My capability to discern the finest nuances in taste isn't really that advanced.
As for comparing to BM's stuff, you're right, I have yet to try his stuff! Maybe I had a typo somewhere, because I compared stuff I've sampled to GE's amph. But judging from all the excellent reviews on BM's speed, I don't have the slightest doubt that his stuff is extremely potent. Let me know if you have any further questions. ;)
Edit2: @müslix: There is no "Waschmittel-Geruch" (for the non-german speaking fellows, this means something like laundry detergent) as far as I can tell. :D
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Maybe I was spoiled and my tolerance had built up, I'm not sure. It just didn't work for me at all. It gave me a very edgy feeling, e.g. my hands were pretty shaky and I felt very uneasy. I didn't experience any signs of euphoria or a sense of well-being. I tried it on two different occasions with the exact same results. Maybe I was in bad shape overall, I'm not sure. I felt so weird after 3 big lines that I decided to take a break and get rid of the stuff.
I suppose it was either a) tolerance and thus maybe needing much more of it than I was used to from GE's stuff, or b) there was some cutting agent in there that made me feel very uneasy or c) my judgement at the time was impaired. Either way, I'm very happy how things went. Took a break afterwards and had some important exams which are just finished now, so now is a perfect time to enjoy some time off with decent, clean amph. 8)
Did you try MrFireUK's new batch already, müslix? If I remember correctly, you were one of the few guys that samples were sent out to.
Edit: Oh, I forgot to comment on the smell/taste. Well, give me a minute (time for another cigarette) and I'll try my best to describe what it smells and tastes like. 8)
My experience was the same. That's why I took more than I should've which then caused my weird reaction ;) My bet would be on b).
Deutsch? ist der Waschmittel-geruch weg? CT weiß was ich meine :) @CT: probier du mal vor ;D
edit: I'm confused, is this the new listing? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/e9c4f1cb8f and the correct price for batch #2 ?
edit2: I've read about the sample, but that's all I know. I didn't think the new batch would be here that fast. I'm still confused what's new batch and what's old. Gonna wait 'til this has cleared up.
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edit: I'm confused, is this the new listing? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/e9c4f1cb8f and the correct price for batch #2 ?
That's the listing for his current batch. I believe he will continue to sell this until it's gone and then starts selling the new batch. As for the price, I think MrFireUK mentioned it might increase a bit with his new batch.
On his profile page it says 1,5kg left of his current batch. I guess it won't take longer than a week or two until he starts selling the real deal. :)
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hey ppl,
MrFireUKs stuff also got to me today. Let me first say that I think you need to have big nerves to send out stuff to unknown ppl who you never know do you get feedback or not.
Thanks MrFireUK
I'll try my best to review the stuff the best i can:
Packaging: nothing bad to say about the packaging. machine written address, vakuum sealed, everything you need. really now complains here.
Product: Product itself came in the usual zip-bag around 0,5g. the product is very white. really no other color here. i didn's smell a thing (like peterpan did) but that's probably my fault cause i'm a little sick for almost a week or so.
Using: i weighted out around 30mg, chopped it in one line (was very easy, when you know BMs stuff, its a pain in the ass ;) ) and gave it a try. no waiting for hours or something just right out of the bag. it did hurt but not very much - no tears.
Feeling: stuff tastes definitely like speed - you know the taste when it goes down your throat - i really like it. after a while you know you have taken something - good body feeling, little bit sweaty but fine. overall i have a very clear head and feel quite chatty and communicative. like peterpan earlier said, i'm also able to focus on specific tasks. its fun stuff.
i did had GE and BM stuff, If you ask me MrFireUKs stuff is quite good in my honest opinion but i would give for now (!) following result:
BM>GE>MrFireUK if BM doesn't have anything in stock its a no-brainer, go to the UK guy!
i will use some more over the evening - will update later, maybe rewriting completely or parts of my current review.
cheers and thanks again
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edit: I'm confused, is this the new listing? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/e9c4f1cb8f and the correct price for batch #2 ?
That's the listing for his current batch. I believe he will continue to sell this until it's gone and then starts selling the new batch. As for the price, I think MrFireUK mentioned it might increase a bit with his new batch.
On his profile page it says 1,5kg left of his current batch. I guess it won't take longer than a week or two until he starts selling the real deal. :)
"yeah you're right it will be about double the price." is what I am hearing
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Thanks for your review emilio !
Looking forward to some more :)
And yeah the price for the new stuff will not just be a bit higher but more like twice as high but that's still not certain .. depending on how much money I can get together I might be able to buy a really large amount and get a good discount.
You'll find out when I change the listings and start selling it ;)
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I have no idea how pure the amph really is, I would guess around 60% +-5, but that's only a wild guess.
What would you guess for GE's speed?! (I have a somewhat solid guess for GE myself :) )
Thanks for the reviews, I have a decent first impression now. My skepticism mode is also back on and in full force. I'll shut up though for now until I can compare myself.
I have to say though, and I don't mean any offense to anyone, based on your reviews I wouldn't make my decision. Mostly because I can't put your experiences in to context, I just can't relate to you guys. My advice: compare more. XYmg dosages say nothing. Say something like: I used 10mg from X, would have needed 30mg from Y. That's the reason I don't put dosages in my posts, creates wrong expectations and can never be transferred to another person anyway. emilio's rating is kinda useful.
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So I just ordered 2g of MrUkFire lets see if it fits my needs.
I normaly stay away from stims bc of my past. (cant handle the speed binge I get...)
Looking forward to review the old batch of him.
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What would you guess for GE's speed?! (I have a somewhat solid guess for GE myself :) )
Hmm, tough to say. Maybe the same range...
Btw, I took one more bump around 6 hours after my first (3x 25mg). Now - hours later - I still feel pretty alert and sharp. At the same time the body feels very relaxed and calm. I'd say it feels a bit nicer than GE's come down if you may call it that. Another thing I noticed is that time was miraculously flying today... Tomorrow I'm putting it to another test on a night out. Am very positive that it'll be a blast (combined with a few, and hopefully not too many, beers). 8)
Thanks for the reviews, I have a decent first impression now. My skepticism mode is also back on and in full force. I'll shut up though for now until I can compare myself.
I'd be careful as well until I've sampled it myself. So I understand your skepticism, especially around this speed market. ;)
As for the dosages, I've tried to put it into context (also in an earlier posting) but I do agree that it's extremely difficult to judge by someone else's impression. The tolerance to the substance, factors such as general physical and mental health, the relationship to drugs in general, experience, diet and many more factors are just way too complex. The endless factors are just one thing, another thing is the person's judgement. Might be blown out of proportion or the person could even be lying for whatever reason.
So, I'd say for anyone interested in this new batch, go ahead and buy a small amount. Especially before ordering bulk amounts. Sample it yourself and, of course, share your impressions with us.
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Hello I am new on this forum but I am following it for 3 months.
My purchases are.
5 gr from German Express it never arrived. You al know the story.
5 gr from Boymaster good stuff but not pure. Today I brought a sample to a Dutch testcentre.
Today I received a sample from OldAmsterdam 1 gr. My girlfriend took 100 mg and there is amp in it. More then in normal streetspeed is her opnion
Also from this stuff I brought a sample to a Dutch testcentre.
10 gr from AAkoven. Results from the testcentre (21april 2012) 5% amp 31% cafeine , fenylaceton and some other stuff.
I sent him a mail about the results and I got an other 5 gr from him. This stuff was better but no more then 10% amp.
Next Friday 10 august I get the results and will post it here.
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Uhm, I just cleaned up my apartment for the last 5 hours. I even rolled up my wardrobe and ditched some old clothes. Something is wrong with me, because I hate cleaning up. Or maybe it's the amph?
I also noticed that I haven't eaten anything all day except a snack for breakfast and small pieces of apples in between cigarettes. My pupils are quite dilated as well. Looks like this will be an all-nighter. Wasn't planned at all but what can I do?
Sorry for this slightly off-topic rant. I thought it might be somewhat related to my review of MrFire's new gear.
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Too bad mrFireUk doesn't ship elsewhere. Is your policy on that gonna change at all mrFireUK?
Or would perhaps anyone consider passing approx. 5~10g of his own stash to *someone* in central EU at a higher price, y know *for the trouble*? - I know, unlikely! im trying to be realistic, but so many things going on in the upcoming next 2 weekends, it would SUCK so bad to be on shitty alcohol or paranoia/schizo inducing and super-neurotoxic meth.
Damn, I've got like a quarter of a crushed MDMA pill from ages ago [Skyy's stuff], won't do shit at this dosage =/ Besides MDMA is for different occasions, nice empathogen but the mental clarity isn't quite there, can't even drive well on that substance, unlike on amph's granting fine-tuned senses/abilities aaah.
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01.08.2012
Due to high demand and my german buddy looking for some more action we now offer worldwide shipping from Germany. Special conditions apply to all international customers - you have to agree to these terms if you want to order :
International customers order at their own risk - 50% refund if you provide proof (customs letter) , NO refund otherwise & FE is required.
All international orders will be vacuum-sealed twice and will be packed as stealthy as possible. Everything will be done to make sure that the product gets to you without any problems - there is still no guarantee though. Not receiving your order is NOT a reason to leave a bad rating because my mate will do his best but he can't control everything.
Nice of him to make the option available, but I will not be buying anything if I have to FE :(
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Nice of him to make the option available, but I will not be buying anything if I have to FE :(
I second that. I hope they are able to evolve quickly. :'(
On another note. I took half of ND's ICE pill this AM on an empty stomach. Hadn't had any stims for about a week, last was adderall. Drank a full glass of water only. Hit pretty hard at one hour. Not really any shakiness like I can get with adderall. Felt warm, alert, focused, horny, couldn't stop chatting, and more motivated to get shit done (More than normally with adderall). It was just the right amount to start, any more and it may have been a bit much for me. For the next four hours had very steady effects. At that time the euphoria dropped off a bit so I took the other half with a light lunch. Felt a little impulsive so I had a couple of bumps of some fine washed charlie, which was fabuloso, and a redbull to take the energy up a bit with B - vitamins/caffeine.
Even though I have no experience with meth, I would say the effects were pretty similar to amphetamine. They were slightly more broad and intense, so there may be something else beyond just some form of amphetamine salt. I do not suspect caffeine in the pill, as the redbull addition would have immediately clued me in, and well I am a bit of a caffeine expert :o No anxiety, irritability, tremor, or distorted thoughts.
For the people that got mrouid's ice pills a while back, they look and feel exactly the same. ND's packaging was very creative (Rhetorical--how did you do that?) and almost as good as mrouid's and it was nice not having to sign for the package. Arrived quickly. I have Arigolo's pep pill version up next, which may steal the show with proclaimed quality and price, but I would not think twice about making a large order (Probably will) with this fine vendor named Northern Dancer ;D. Thank you for a very enjoyable day. After about 12 hours from start or 8 after last half I feel like I could sleep in an hour or two. Will update if I feel like shit, but I don't feel like I will since I am having a lovely decent back to earth presently.
I give this vendor 5/5 in all categories. Shit even put his money where his keyboard is and let the product speak in a serious way by sending a half dozen for free.
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For us Aussies it's pretty rare to get quality amphetamine sulphate. Often vendors/dealers cut meth freebase goo with some powder, be it cornflour or talcum or worse and sell it as amphetamine sulphate or "dutch amphetamine." One particular vendor springs to mind but have not seen him online for a while. When I do come across amphetamine sulphate it is usually in generic tablet form (medication) and I have not seen it on domestic aussie SR. This is the best shit if you can find it but only comes in 10mg-20mg (Adderall tablets which are racemic dex. and amphet. sulphate). Price is also stupid, both Adderall and freebase goo, so if anyone out there wants to flood the Aussie market with good quality amphetamine sulphate then there will be many happy SR travelers willing to pay top $ for good shit. Just thought I'd give you the perspective of a country half way around the globe with almost stupidly severe drug laws (no one gets executed here at least, unlike Thailand etc). Cheers!
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Hey there - for fucks sake, can't log in with my regular account, no idea why. I sure as hell hope,this is just a temporary solution. If my old account should be gone for good, i'll verify myself through SR - gladly this account is still alive.
First things first, @müslix - no, it isn't gone, still smells like sticking your head into a bucket of persil :D But i actually start to like it, the human species is disgusting - if it makes you feel good, it doesn't matter if it stinks or taste like..nah, too much information ^^
Alright - i got FireUks sample today. Perfectly packed and about half a gram. I couldn't test it, yet. It's gonna be a hell of a test ;) I didn't sleep at all this night, munched about 1 Gramm of Fires "old" batch yesterday night and feel like i've been hit by a train. When i have managed to get some food into my system i will open the baggy, make some pics (this time i'm gonna focus ^^) and test it this evening.Unfortunately i don't have any marquis left but i think it'll be possible to tell if there something odd.
Allright, gonna head to the kitchen.. fuck, i'm so not hungry :p
Cheers and (hopefully with my old negative-karma-charged account) till this evening (about 8 hrs i guess).
CT
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Hey there - for fucks sake, can't log in with my regular account, no idea why. I sure as hell hope,this is just a temporary solution. If my old account should be gone for good, i'll verify myself through SR - gladly this account is still alive.
same here. suxx. want me account back.
Technical support thread: dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33848
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Dread Pirate Roberts emphasized how important integrity is on Silk Road but in reality the so called strict demands for sellers are a total joke. Vendors like for example AAkoven and juergen2001 are scamming their ass of for months and months now.. still high ranked sellers here. If GermanExpress's account was closed so fast then SR support should totally assimilate those other accounts too right? You can't talk about integrity and at the same time just keep facilitating for sellers who clearly aren't playing by the rules.
OMG, how did I miss that. +Infinity for that.
Those (selective) scammers still generate (a lot of) profit for SR, therefore they seem to be tolerated. That fact should be pointed out way more often.
How does it come that most of the time I hear of "selective scammers". I never was the person that has been scammed?! Maybe I have to rethink my personal definition of a selective scammer.
Never had the slightest complain with one of the mentioned.
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First things first, @müslix - no, it isn't gone, still smells like sticking your head into a bucket of persil :D But i actually start to like it, the human species is disgusting - if it makes you feel good, it doesn't matter if it stinks or taste like..nah, too much information ^^
I know that feeling, the brain associates the smell to the speed high. For me it's now associated to puking ;D
Make sure you dry it first and keep it at fresh air until the solvent is gone. It's not the healthiest thing for sure.
Waschmittel ist nicht so falsch, das ist schon ein Lösungungsmittel aus der Reinigungsindustrie imho. Was natürlich bedeutet, dass es weiterhin mit irgendwas (hoffentlich weniger und nicht was anderes - will's nicht verschreien :X) gestreckt ist.
How does it come that most of the time I hear of "selective scammers". I never was the person that has been scammed?! Maybe I have to rethink my personal definition of a selective scammer.
Here's my definition:
- Rip-off: (aka bunk) everything that has less than 10% amp (therefore barely noticeable, enough to fool marquis) and is being sold as Speed. unless it's stated (haha).
- Scam: deliberately trying to fool your customers into thinking they get something different or way better than is being sold.
- Selective Scam: a) selling some customers good stuff and others bad stuff or b) part of your inventory is sold good, other parts (mostly speed) sold bad (very popular here)
AAkoven fits in all 3.
And yea, by any definition a selective scammer won't scam all of his customers, just selected groups to keep the cash cow going as long as possible. People who never got scammed will defend the scammer, making it the hardest to point out.
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How much will 1g cost from BM's new batch ?
I only got 21 $. I won't deposite more cash, it's hard work :P
Edit : Where's my old account ?!
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@flyers that's going to cutting it pretty damn close, keep your fingers crossed
@muslix 2.0, do you have the skinny on NBOME's stuff?
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Hi Guys,
I've noticed this is one of the more active posts, hmm I wonder why lol.
I have snt out a lot of international samples and a few domestic orders so hopefully we'll have reviews up soon.
I have had a load of interest from Aus/Scandinavia for obvious reasons so I have decided to do a special listing for these countries. I am confident about packaging but I will be asking bulk orders to finalise half of their order, at least for the time being until I can be more sure of the delivery routes. Hope this isn't a problem for people and hopefully if we have good success rates I'll be able to offer full Escrow for all
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/355648e789
Please check out my page, I am looking to restock this weekend. Maybe a couple of different batches, I'll see how the tests go.
Thanks for your interest guys
stay posted
NBOME
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Nice of him to make the option available, but I will not be buying anything if I have to FE :(
I third that. And it cannot be stressed enough.
Make some rule who has to FE and who hasn't, like new buyers or ... I tried to figure something out, but none of my fav vendors requires this.
@caffeine_me: where are you from? EU? 'Murrica? Can you make pictures of the pills? I saw the ICE pill, for everything else it's guesswork.
Proud to be a Murrican.....fuck yea! :-\
I could wait for it to come out in my poop or take another to give me enough motivation to figure out my shitty camera, but this seems to look exactly the same http://www.pillreports.com/images/fullsize/29499.jpg Mrouid's pic is pretty good too (Sorry ND, but better pic and price (#50)....but I think ND will be flexible on a larger quantity order and I don't have to get someone to sign for the fucking thing)
I took half of Mruoid's old ice today, granted tolerance but it seems to be same or slightly less (particularly body high/euphoria) of the same....tolerance though (Well and wine and more coke....just a taste ;) ). I did have to take 5mg of valium and 1.5mg of lunesta to fall asleep with ease 12 hours after the second half? Felt slightly somnolent first part of the day, but still like I felt some of the amphetamine?
better pic\
http://www.pillreports.com/images/fullsize/16094.jpg
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Hey, I'm new here. I've been surfing through SR forum quite a long time now. I'm basically here for a good speed. I found this thread really interesting. Actually it's been quite a trip to read this..
Thanks to Müslix & other speed scientists for great analytics! I would like to share my experiences here also.
@ MrFireUK & Boymaster: Great to see this kind of fair business in this unfair world.
Little bit about myself: I've been doing speed about ten years now. I'm not a heavy user, but I like to speed thing up every now and then ;) I like to snort it first for testing and then I prefer mix it with a drink. The thing is, here where I live, the quality of speed has been very poor lately, and that’s why I came here.
As soon as I'm pretty damn sure about my security, I'll place my first order. I think my credits go to MrFireUK, because BM is still out of stock.
I'll keep you updated. Thanks for your help and all best,
~Q~
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Well, I am diving in and trying this OldAmsterdam 1g sample. Truth be told that sounds like an opening to selective scamming too, but hey if I can get the good stuff before it starts going down..
I don't know who speedie is but if his gf took 100mg and said it was better than street speed.. surely it's not fkn 72%+ purity? Wouldn't that give a FEMALE pretty much an overdose. My biggest single doses of boymaster stuff were like 60mg (I think I've taken like 150mg over a day) and I couldn't imagine myself taking 100mg.
Also when we talk about AA koven etc.. PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO MENTION vendor: DISCOUNTDRUGS. This guy is all of the things aa koven is.......Even the diazepam he sent me were dogshit of 1-2mg max (maybe NOTHING)- sold as 10mg).. After I tried the MSJ's which are just generic diazepam I could tell the difference between legitimate generic. His communication is so shady and erratic too. It's like he's got multiple personality disorder or severe brain damage. Either way, stay the hell away from him too. His speed did absolutely nothing.
speedie has 1 post and says who took stuff to be labtested.. hopefully it's not a shill for oldamsterdam but it wouldn't make sense.. for him to say 100mg dose bit better than street speed- then label it at 72% purity. Then again, people who scam on SR aren't supergenius- they're just superassholes.
AND COEM OOOOON BOYMASTA!! it's august! ahhh.. see, I'm getting so impatient I ordered a little PASTE FROM AMSTERDAM! Oh well still holding most my moneys for this new batch.
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Oh and here's something that might seem a little OT but it's not that much:
Have any speed users tried modafinil or the related compounds? I'm not looking for a recreational high from this stuff. I want opinion from someone who's tried speed not some guy who's only had a cup of tea once in his life. Does it help with keeping focus?
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Anyone able/willing to write down BM's speeds effects with no tolerance differentiated by doses?
Like:
10mg: Slightly mood rising, no side effects, could sleep after x hours
20mg: Good mood rising, couldn't sleep x hours after last dose
30mg: ...
Would be really appreciated.
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Oh and here's something that might seem a little OT but it's not that much:
Have any speed users tried modafinil or the related compounds? I'm not looking for a recreational high from this stuff. I want opinion from someone who's tried speed not some guy who's only had a cup of tea once in his life. Does it help with keeping focus?
In my experience it does increase you ability to focus, but not very much. It can't be compared to amphetamines or methylphenidate. Also it's fairly anxiogenic, so if you are predisposed towards those kind of feelings the net effect is likely to be less focus instead of more.
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Hey there,
hkmay - ct2012 is dead, my he rest in peace. I don't have an idea why this happened - but since it seems, that i'm not the only one, it might be interesting to look into it.. (already got my tinfoil hat nearby)
Okay - tested MRFireUKs uncut sample yesterday. Unfortunately no marquis and (i don't think that it's important to do this - it looks like the one he is offering now).
First - i was really a walking dead yesterday, snorting and snacking Fire's stuff like i have a deathwish for the last weeks. I was really exhausted and was even considering a raincheck. But who was i kidding - so i started with 50mg. The speed is whiter than white and can be made into powder pretty easy - i didn't notice any moisture. It smells good. Lol - no, i mean it, it's just a slight tone of solvents and a subtle floral aroma - i like it - it's not the washing detergent smell his actual batch has (but on the other hand i like the smell of this too - so my skills in this direction might be a little off).
I snorted the 50mg and noticed on the spot, that it was much cleaner than the other. This "dusty" feeling you have when there is caffeine and other stuff inside was almost completely gone. It burned a little, two up to three tears of joy ran down my ..sorry - but this was gone in a couple of seconds. I noticed the effects 8-10 Minutes later. It was a (phet-based) feeling of clarity with euphoric traces.
I don't know - but when someone - who is me (lol,sorry, couldn't resist) kills about 1-2 G of his actual stuff within 3-6 hours and takes about 250-300 mg as a single dose, notices the effect of 50 mg..hm, i sure as hell can't give any numbers concerning purity, but i was impressed. An what is the appropriate measure if you are impressed - you come back for more. So after an hour i took another 80 mg - nice and clear, no shaking hands, no jitters from caffeine, i simply enjoyed this. 2 hours later i decided to take another 110 mg. Those numbers might imply that it isn't that good, but i think that tolerance can be a bitch and someone else might have a problem with this dose. I don't want to say what a big and tough guy i am - quite the opposite - i just want to advise you to test it with the a respect for amphetamine which got lost over the last years over tons of shit mixed into grams of phet.
To come to an end - in my opinion this stuff is at least 2 times stronger. It gives a clean and euphoric "let's get done with whatever crap there is to be done" mood. Will i buy the stuff if he post it on his profile? Fuck yeah..
Thank you mate, it was a pleasure to try this stuff.
Cheers,
ct
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Thanks for your review mate - always make me happy to read stuff like that and know that people are enjoying the stuff I sell 8)
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Oh and here's something that might seem a little OT but it's not that much:
Have any speed users tried modafinil or the related compounds? I'm not looking for a recreational high from this stuff. I want opinion from someone who's tried speed not some guy who's only had a cup of tea once in his life. Does it help with keeping focus?
As a relatively seasoned pep user, I've tried modalert/modafinil before (varying dosages between 200-600mg) - it subtly helped with focus but there was no euphoria/real body high -- much more of a functional high rather than a recreational one IMO.
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Used to get great speed pills.(Blues?) in late 70's/early 80's.Strong euphoric rush. Any old school chemical heads have any idea what they were? Noticed 'Ice pills' from Canada and wondered if they might be similar.Anybody tried them?
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Used to get great speed pills.(Blues?) in late 70's/early 80's.Strong euphoric rush. Any old school chemical heads have any idea what they were? Noticed 'Ice pills' from Canada and wondered if they might be similar.Anybody tried them?
Meth (also called Ice) or Phenmetrazine?
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Is that the blues too ? Ok,Googled, Sorry stupid head ..Drinamyl a mix of amphetamine and barbs....any home chemists out there?
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Is that the blues too ?
Don't know. Just an idea.
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Hey guys!
Please take the time to check out my listing for pure amphetamine sulphate.
I'm starting out by listing 1 gram quantities only. Bigger quantities will be up in a few weeks.
I'd like to offer a few free samples to established forum members(muslix, caffeine_me, peter pan?) so please PM me for more details.
I know that i am quite far from most of you so you may have to wait a few days longer than when you order from european vendors but i can offer you excellent quality speed at very good prices so that should more than make up for it!
Thanks for your time
CC
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@CapeC
I'm going to be waiting for muslix's review first then. There have been far too many alberthofman-type pep vendors popping up, collecting everyone's coins and vanishing/scamming.
Hate to sound so pessimistic, but sadly that pessimism is a learned response from all the bs that has been flowing through.
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Just put in for a UK sample..got to be better than we have ??? 8) ...look forward giving a review from a long time amp lover..yes this is a ghost name
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@CapeC
I'm going to be waiting for muslix's review first then. There have been far too many alberthofman-type pep vendors popping up, collecting everyone's coins and vanishing/scamming.
Hate to sound so pessimistic, but sadly that pessimism is a learned response from all the bs that has been flowing through.
No problem at all. That's why i will only be listing 1 gram quantities until i have a nice amount of solid reviews. I don't want to come across as one of these new vendors popping up and offering huge quantities of an unknown product for sale.
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No problem at all. That's why i will only be listing 1 gram quantities until i have a nice amount of solid reviews. I don't want to come across as one of these new vendors popping up and offering huge quantities of an unknown product for sale.
Woah, you're shipping from South Africa?
What is your meaning of "pure"? 30-50mg doses?
Do you have an estimation of your purity?
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No problem at all. That's why i will only be listing 1 gram quantities until i have a nice amount of solid reviews. I don't want to come across as one of these new vendors popping up and offering huge quantities of an unknown product for sale.
Woah, you're shipping from South Africa?
What is your meaning of "pure"? 30-50mg doses?
Do you have an estimation of your purity?
That's correct. I ship from South Africa.
"Pure" as in completely unadulterated. It hasn't been cut. It is not a paste so there's no solvent to add extra weight. 1 gram will be 1 gram of dry amphetamine sulphate powder. Nothing else. A 30-50mg dose would hit a non tolerant user hard. I wouldn't advise a non tolerant user to go over 50mg( or even 30mg).
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First note: Imprint (Austria) got caught. That guy is 25, not the smartest and appeared to me as pretty insecure regarding this whole SR/encryption thing. The guy is 25 and facing prison and has a big mouth, I think he will give up everything he has to make some sort of deal with LE.
How do you know this? Has it been in the news or something? My address is safe but I'm curious.
Offtopic: Deal-making with LE = seen too many US films/television shows. It's not a big part of European jurisprudence and in many countries it's considered to be in conflict with the right to a fair trial (for very good reasons I might add). Have a look at wiki for "plea bargain".
edit: "What happened to imprint?" : http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=34006.0
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Hey guys!
Please take the time to check out my listing for pure amphetamine sulphate.
I'm starting out by listing 1 gram quantities only. Bigger quantities will be up in a few weeks.
I'd like to offer a few free samples to established forum members(muslix, caffeine_me, peter pan?) so please PM me for more details.
I know that i am quite far from most of you so you may have to wait a few days longer than when you order from european vendors but i can offer you excellent quality speed at very good prices so that should more than make up for it!
Thanks for your time
CC
I will PM you :).
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@muslix: Given your reputable reputation i will happily send you a full gram. Yes i have read back through the forums and i know what AC is all about. his pricing is just insane!
@H4L101: Got it!
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@muslix: Given your reputable reputation i will happily send you a full gram. Yes i have read back through the forums and i know what AC is all about. his pricing is just insane!
@H4L101: Got it!
Happily ordered a sample :) hopefully all goes well I will write a review once received. Thanks CC!
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Hey,
I am looking forward to buy some speed. I tried juergen and mrfire uk. both didn't really make me happy. maybe a bad batch?
has anybody a recommendation atm? i prefer a german seller (ger->ger)
best regards
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müslix, you're probably absolutely right, please don't think what I say is me being critical of you. I def trust you.
I know I shouldn't say AC's first batch was good since I didn't have any experience before that, but the reason for why I said that is that I can compare it to the effects of the speed I take now (DMTdoodeeLSD, BM, Amsterdope) and the effects weren't different, just more intense? But not really. Boymaster's is also really intense.
If you say that AC's wasn't Amphetamine, I'm going to trust you on that.
Good thing to hear that MrFireUK has really good stuff too, I really like Amsterdope's stuff, but I don't want to spend another €80 on stuff that isn't super pure like Boymaster's. Esp since I've been spending way too much money on clothes and stuff :S
My stash has lasted quite a while. I still have most of BM's, so I might not actually have to buy till Sept-Oct.
Also snorting Boymaster's HURTS LIKE HELL. Which is kind of inconvenient in the rare times I want to redose in the day coz I'll cry and have to reapply my makeup. But that's actually pretty rare, I wasn't expecting it with my tolerance, but Boymaster's kept me going and going and going for 12+ hours. Once I bumped a bit of AD's and a friend gave me a caffeine pill, I was tweaked like FUCK.
For anyone who doesn't want to read the whole thread, I've been following it for a while and in a nutshell the quality of dealers (not mentioning inactive dealers):
Boymaster (best) > MrFireUK (Competing for best) > [in my opinion] Amsterdope (Not the best purity, but better than mojority of shit on SR)
Rigolo, NBOME and CapeCrusaders have said they have good product, but need proper reviews.
TO AVOID: aakoven (the worst), juergen, discountdrugs (however I read one good review on Nazi putty, idk about that tho), DMTdoodeeLSD (his stuff his bullshit), AspirantCooper (lots of evidence of a scam).
The rest either still need proper reviews [and haven't posted in the forums, I think], or aren't worth it.
Anyway, I thought about doing meth, but then I didn't think it was worth it. I've never done it but I've read up on it. First off, well made and pure CRYSTAL meth, should be d-methamphetamine, which means NO l-methamphetamine. A racemic mixture of d-meth and l-meth would result in a powder regardless of how pure it is. Apparently, d-methamphetamine, like d-amphetamine, produces smoother, less tweakier results.
From what I've read, meth in general is a smoother high, which I also don't want. I remember this one scene in the movie Spun, where this blonde girl was dropping off her dog by the vet, and she was just talking a million miles an hour and couldn't keep still and kept fumbling around and moved around like she was in huge rush. That movie is actually about meth, but they were making it themselves so they probably had really low purity racemic stuff.
But that's kind of the high I'd want, not some subtle stuff, and even if I was freaking out like that girl in the movie, in that kind of situation I'd still control myself (I know what its like being that wired, but I have to keep calm in public to not seem suspicious).
I have this coworker who had been hanging out with this one stoner girl from a store nearby a lot, and eventually yeah we were talking and they admitted they smoked weed all the time and liked to do other stuff as well, and were trying to get me to admit to my use as well. I didn't coz I already a close call when I said the wrong thing to the wrong person and got a call from the boss, so now I'm super careful about what I say to who (meaning I don't say anything to anyone, ever). But I said yeah, there were certain things I do, didn't say anything further.
So like a week later this coworker comes to me and asks where I can find speed. I got so paranoid, sometimes I get really scared that people can tell I'm spun.
I mean, weed is one thing, but he has to mention speed of all things. He said some other guy offered a gram of homemade speed (probably meth and in no way amph, and German street speed is super low purity anyway) for €20 and if I could find some better shit.
So fucking weird, my conscious was screaming not to do it, I had a really bad feeling in my gut. Something felt really "off", it felt wrong, even if the guy seemed super trustworthy. I've had my close calls, but never landed in any real trouble. The whole time I felt like I was a few words away from all the randoms on the street whipping out their badges and busting me.
We talked for a bit, but in the end I told him I just couldn't do it. Which kind of sucks, coz I could have cut him a pretty good deal for some pretty pure stuff, and still make a pretty good profit myself. But there is just no way I'm betting my life on that.
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definetly mrfireuk
good quality.......after sold out he will list real uncut stuff pronounced in the forum thread of his
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Amsterdope (Not the best purity, but better than mojority of shit on SR)
Yeah that's basically my review in a nutshell. I tried to formulate everything as honest as possible without harming his business you know, it's very easy to write things like "this stuff sucks" etc. I still think especially in places where the street quality is awful and far too expensive like Australia Amsterdope's speed is a very good alternative.
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Hey guys!
Please take the time to check out my listing for pure amphetamine sulphate.
I'm starting out by listing 1 gram quantities only. Bigger quantities will be up in a few weeks.
I'd like to offer a few free samples to established forum members(muslix, caffeine_me, peter pan?) so please PM me for more details.
I know that i am quite far from most of you so you may have to wait a few days longer than when you order from european vendors but i can offer you excellent quality speed at very good prices so that should more than make up for it!
Thanks for your time
CC
I feel honored by the mention and I will probably kick myself later, but to be honest I have so many different samples to try I am afraid I would not give you the proper review it deserves. I hope another will from North America, and I will be able to just order a whole bunch later. You and your product does sound very promising. Welcome.
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müslix, you're probably absolutely right, please don't think what I say is me being critical of you. I def trust you.
I know I shouldn't say AC's first batch was good since I didn't have any experience before that, but the reason for why I said that is that I can compare it to the effects of the speed I take now (DMTdoodeeLSD, BM, Amsterdope) and the effects weren't different, just more intense? But not really. Boymaster's is also really intense.
If you say that AC's wasn't Amphetamine, I'm going to trust you on that.
Good thing to hear that MrFireUK has really good stuff too, I really like Amsterdope's stuff, but I don't want to spend another €80 on stuff that isn't super pure like Boymaster's. Esp since I've been spending way too much money on clothes and stuff :S
My stash has lasted quite a while. I still have most of BM's, so I might not actually have to buy till Sept-Oct.
Also snorting Boymaster's HURTS LIKE HELL. Which is kind of inconvenient in the rare times I want to redose in the day coz I'll cry and have to reapply my makeup. But that's actually pretty rare, I wasn't expecting it with my tolerance, but Boymaster's kept me going and going and going for 12+ hours. Once I bumped a bit of AD's and a friend gave me a caffeine pill, I was tweaked like FUCK.
For anyone who doesn't want to read the whole thread, I've been following it for a while and in a nutshell the quality of dealers (not mentioning inactive dealers):
Boymaster (best) > MrFireUK (Competing for best) > [in my opinion] Amsterdope (Not the best purity, but better than mojority of shit on SR)
Rigolo, NBOME and CapeCrusaders have said they have good product, but need proper reviews.
TO AVOID: aakoven (the worst), juergen, discountdrugs (however I read one good review on Nazi putty, idk about that tho), DMTdoodeeLSD (his stuff his bullshit), AspirantCooper (lots of evidence of a scam).
The rest either still need proper reviews [and haven't posted in the forums, I think], or aren't worth it.
Anyway, I thought about doing meth, but then I didn't think it was worth it. I've never done it but I've read up on it. First off, well made and pure CRYSTAL meth, should be d-methamphetamine, which means NO l-methamphetamine. A racemic mixture of d-meth and l-meth would result in a powder regardless of how pure it is. Apparently, d-methamphetamine, like d-amphetamine, produces smoother, less tweakier results.
From what I've read, meth in general is a smoother high, which I also don't want. I remember this one scene in the movie Spun, where this blonde girl was dropping off her dog by the vet, and she was just talking a million miles an hour and couldn't keep still and kept fumbling around and moved around like she was in huge rush. That movie is actually about meth, but they were making it themselves so they probably had really low purity racemic stuff.
But that's kind of the high I'd want, not some subtle stuff, and even if I was freaking out like that girl in the movie, in that kind of situation I'd still control myself (I know what its like being that wired, but I have to keep calm in public to not seem suspicious).
I have this coworker who had been hanging out with this one stoner girl from a store nearby a lot, and eventually yeah we were talking and they admitted they smoked weed all the time and liked to do other stuff as well, and were trying to get me to admit to my use as well. I didn't coz I already a close call when I said the wrong thing to the wrong person and got a call from the boss, so now I'm super careful about what I say to who (meaning I don't say anything to anyone, ever). But I said yeah, there were certain things I do, didn't say anything further.
So like a week later this coworker comes to me and asks where I can find speed. I got so paranoid, sometimes I get really scared that people can tell I'm spun.
I mean, weed is one thing, but he has to mention speed of all things. He said some other guy offered a gram of homemade speed (probably meth and in no way amph, and German street speed is super low purity anyway) for €20 and if I could find some better shit.
So fucking weird, my conscious was screaming not to do it, I had a really bad feeling in my gut. Something felt really "off", it felt wrong, even if the guy seemed super trustworthy. I've had my close calls, but never landed in any real trouble. The whole time I felt like I was a few words away from all the randoms on the street whipping out their badges and busting me.
We talked for a bit, but in the end I told him I just couldn't do it. Which kind of sucks, coz I could have cut him a pretty good deal for some pretty pure stuff, and still make a pretty good profit myself. But there is just no way I'm betting my life on that.
Wise move..No such thing as too careful..if your head says no then listen... x
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No problem at all. That's why i will only be listing 1 gram quantities until i have a nice amount of solid reviews. I don't want to come across as one of these new vendors popping up and offering huge quantities of an unknown product for sale.
The Grand Wizard has taken the plunge and ordered a gram of amps from Cape Crusader. I'm already a great fan of Durban's herb: here's hoping I find some nice Cape Town Marching Powder too.
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No problem at all. That's why i will only be listing 1 gram quantities until i have a nice amount of solid reviews. I don't want to come across as one of these new vendors popping up and offering huge quantities of an unknown product for sale.
Woah, you're shipping from South Africa?
What is your meaning of "pure"? 30-50mg doses?
Do you have an estimation of your purity?
That's correct. I ship from South Africa.
"Pure" as in completely unadulterated. It hasn't been cut. It is not a paste so there's no solvent to add extra weight. 1 gram will be 1 gram of dry amphetamine sulphate powder. Nothing else. A 30-50mg dose would hit a non tolerant user hard. I wouldn't advise a non tolerant user to go over 50mg( or even 30mg).
How long does shipping take from SA? maybe I'll check it out. Gettign a little sick of waiting for BM :) Who knows, maybe you south africans know some process to make super euphoric shit. I have no tolerance so I'm looking for a product in 30-50mg range obv.
Even a quarter gram sample would suffice for me to make up my mind since I've no tolerance but I guess I wait until muslix tries it.
Although I have a feeling BM will pop around soon so it's a race now :)
As for crystal... It's just, too hardcore. If we have sellers here who can provide the purest type amphetamine sulfate I don't think anyone should do meth. If you want some recreational euphoria, have some mdma once in a while but meth.. woahs. I did some lurid shit on that......... It felt as if I was just knocking years off my life while stirring up my brain- and knocking heartbeats off my clock.
As for BM speed burning.. haha I loved that part.. although it was nothing compared to snorting the crystal. It made my eyes tear all the way down.. but it burns so good yo usee.. the thing with crystal is it made my whole next and arteries rush so hard with blood I could barely turn my head. It's just way too hardcore for me. if I had only a few months to live then sure, I'd do meth ...
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How long does shipping take from SA? maybe I'll check it out. Gettign a little sick of waiting for BM :) Who knows, maybe you south africans know some process to make super euphoric shit. I have no tolerance so I'm looking for a product in 30-50mg range obv.
I bought some incredibly cheap weed from a SA seller which took 10 days to arrive. Most people seem to get it a little faster, a few had to wait longer though, it seems quite unpredictable. Skim the feedback of revenantchild (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/e4f447f64a) and swazibud888 (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/98cb0077f3) if you're interested.
Unless the boymaster returns, or mrfire starts selling his new batch, within the next hour or two then I'll soon be waiting for a package from South Africa again.
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which took 10 days to arrive.
10 days to where? Murrica or EU?
England. However I won't be buying any of South Africa's finest tonight as I just spent all my bitcoin on other fun things.
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Below is a Marquis test from Lonely Kamel's speed....Amphetamine is present it looks like, that's great news! My first test since I have purchased this testing agent.
http://i.imgur.com/9ahQP.jpg
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I like Adderall a lot, but the prices on SR on ridiculous. I bought some meth and have used very low oral doses trying to approximate the same effect as Adderall.
I take stimulants for the sensation but also to knock out shitloads of work. I don't like to feel too fucked up--just a good functional buzz with euphoria and concentration. With Adderall I'll take 20-30 mg a day, split in two doses. I have to take last dose no later than an hour after lunch to get decent sleep.
With the crystal I've tried 10-25mg doses and settled on 15mg as the best with the batch I'm working on. The peak is better than the Adderall but it almost lasts too long. I have to take it very, very early in day to get decent sleep--a couple hours before lunch.
Obviously I take lots of days/weeks off so the doses above remain effective. Don't worry--I'm not sober on those days, I just don't touch any stimulant other than coffee.
The meth isn't bad, and I am saving a ton of money over Adderall. I have a hard time explaining why I don't like it as much, but it seems shittier for my body even though I'm taking lower doses. This could simply be placebo effect since I don't "know" it is pure. It seems like it fucks w/ my heart rate/blood pressure more, even at low doses.
If anyone has recommendations for a specific product or vendor that I'd be happier with I'm all ears. I know I could simply buy Adderall, but the cost is prohibitive for me. SR prices are just nuts and I don't have an irl hookup. Thanks.
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Did anyone order that sample from OldAmsterdam? That guy has no PGP key?! because he uses android? Doesn't sound very legit :(
Took me less than a minute: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thialfihar.android.apg
Yes I have ordered a sample it probably will arrive today. Broke my own rule to always use PGP but what the heck I'm not that paranoid and I don't exactly expect a swat team to burst into my home or shit like that. I also don't expect too much of the sample though but who knows.
I have new intel on imprint-bust :) I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy ... and it is being said that imprint was part of a bigger bust, 5 dealers in total, and they were busted because two of them were faking an H-addiction to get Morphine (substitol) from a doctor and were selling it irl. Imprint pointed to his med-selling buddy on his sr-profile page, pretty sure he sold substitol. 40 customers were also 'busted' (they probably have to pay a fine or something).
source: http://ooe.orf.at/news/stories/2544146/
Makes you wonder, there were a couple of vendors that have vanished into thin air like hashuk for example. He was nr. 1 vendor for a while before his account went in stealth mode without any given reason. It's likely that he also was busted something like a half year ago.
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I ordered sample from OldAmsterdam. I will see where it gets me. He insisted on 72% purity. We shall see since I've used 2 grams of BM's 70% purity.. :)
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See you guys were discussing Meth a few pages pack, quite surprised to see some of you were pretty underwhelmed with it's potency considering I'd always just known it to be a FAR stronger than amphetamine's effects per amount, as well as euphoric. As someone mentioned, kind of like a batshit potent amphetamine with added Euphoria. Would you say it has something to do with perhaps the availability and quality on SR is lacking a little right now or just my preconceptions of the drug were way off?
Really tempted to try Crystal Meth regardless, and Crystall Wife being the only EU seller at this point I'd probably shoot for, but considering (as of now) 0.2g is around double the price of 1g of MrFireUK's product, which can easily keep me going for a couple of days, using heavily at that (for my level of tolerance anyway), not sure how well it really stacks up in terms of bang for buck.
Of course we're talking different drugs so I'm aware your paying for varying experiences in terms of effects and potency, but in terms of pure usage how long do would you regular amp users get out 0.2g of CW's Crystal? If you guys were getting through that easily in say a day without even being regular Meth users, I'm really not sure I'd consider it worth it really, unless it was just that fucking good which as you guys mentioned before you were in fact underwhelmed for the most part. Interested what you might have to say regardless.
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Oh, and something I wanted to check on in case of me misunderstanding. If the meth is actually in Crystal Shard Form? You know, Crystal Meth. That means it is in fact d-meth, correct? or it couldn't be in Crystal form. Whereas powered shit is likely racemic?
And yes if I do make a purchase with CW I'll be sure to post a review from the perspective of myself being a semi-regular amp user.
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It was me and pachang talking about CW's meth. We were indeed both underwhelmed, my issue with this is, that my last meth experiences are quite a few years back. So the almost non-existent euphoria and generally not-speedy feeling was somewhat of a surprise for me.
I can't say if it's me, bad meth or meth really underwhelms me (maybe due to high speed usage, I have no idea). I figured it has to be me, since CW has this awesome rep and lots of buyers and all.
But every now and then you can see stuff like this in CW's feedback: "4 of 5 nice & professional shipping, but the quality was not best, in my opinion too expensive for that kind of meth". Makes me wonder if those feedbacks are actually coming from people who really have a clue about meth. If you check out the speed-vendor feedbacks you'll find lots of 5/5 "FE" or "It arrived and it smells, not tried yet", the usual stuff. But every now and then there is users who claim the speed to be shit (quite a few times it's me ;D), so it really could be that CW's meth is not the most potent. I'd love to do a labtest, but I don't want to waste more money on it, since I really don't like it that much.
I find it quite strange how some people are underwhelmed, whilst others are posting saying Crystal is literally too strong to handle, I think someone further up described it such an rush of blood flow through the arteries of their neck that that could barely turn their head, haha, kind of funny. As you say it's likely CW's is slightly under par if anything. But I'm convinced I'll make an order anyway and post my experience.
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Oh, and something I wanted to check on in case of me misunderstanding. If the meth is actually in Crystal Shard Form? You know, Crystal Meth. That means it is in fact d-meth, correct? or it couldn't be in Crystal form. Whereas powered shit is likely racemic?
Yes that's true, but it being in crystal/shard form does not mean it's pure.
So it doesn't necessarily mean it's pure, but it cannot contain l-meth? If so what else is it likely to contain? Just your generic cutting agents used during production? Which I suppose maybe why experience seem to be varying wildly. Perhaps the guy with the rushing neck arteries just had topnotch Breaking Bad level shit, whilst CW's is perhaps fairly weak.
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ok I try to write a quick review or better how I feel now because I just tested the product of MrUKfire.
begun with 50mg and an other 50mg half an hour later. Now its exactly a hour as I write this.
I feel great and this is so absolute the real deal. I mean it feels exactly as it should be.
We both tested 2 batches of lokal "good speed... bla bla please be careful bla bla..." And none of the both where amphetamine sulphat.
Slowly I believe müslix with the RC bullshit in this pseudo paste pep thing. The last 2 days I hat dream like psychedelic experiences that I would put in the phenethylamine or cathinon corner.
Mr.UkFire's stuff is not the strongest speed I tested in the last 20+ years but it is def. the real deal.
...going to do some stuff now ...
take care
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So it doesn't necessarily mean it's pure, but it cannot contain l-meth? If so what else is it likely to contain? Just your generic cutting agents used during production?
Yes, no l-meth, you were correct racemic (d + l) meth = powder. What it could be cut with, honestly no idea. Not caffeine as I think this would color the crystals white. But I guess there is enough shit that can be mixed into it before it's being crystallized and which doesn't change the appearance. I read that on a coke-washing tutorial, where you do two washes and let it recrystallize after the first wash, but some adulterants will also form crystals, so the second wash was needed to get rid of those. (search for 'coke acetone wash' if you are interested, I can't really remember which adulterants were mentioned)
YES! order for rigolo is out, I really don't have any idea what to expect from those pills. I mean how much amp has to be in there to give me a good buzz (with my tolerance)? We'll see. Jannis order is also out, finally! (LSD vendor, he's like all the knowledgeable speed-freaks here combined, but for LSD. Really knows his shit (about how many vendors can that be said?), hoping for some good acid 8))
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I msged OldAmsterdam, he has problems with the whole PGP stuff. So he seems to really be a new guy. And he's not aakoven, he answered in one sentence but it didn't have 20 grammatical mistakes in it :D I offered to help with the PGP (for android), I hope he takes me up on it, then we'll have a public key pretty fast.
Waiting for BTC... I'm gonna place a test order with rigolo for the speed pills, I'm just too curious :) I'll report with pics and reagent-tests and everything. And OldAmsterdam if the PGP issue gets fixed soon. That's gonna be it for tests for this months. Unless someone shows up and throws samples at me.
In 3 weeks I have a chance to do free lab-tests. This time it's pretty close to me, no car needed, it's in a nightclub and I know most of the securities (free entry :P). If anyone wants something tested, let me know. But I can't go in there with 20 samples, so keep it reasonable ;) Results will be handed out 60 mins later.
I'll test rigolo's pills, and maybe BM and CapeCrusader, if they get here until then. Still haven't heard anything from CC :(
I'd like my product tested. Very Interested!
Thanks
CC
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thanks muslix for doing test with me.
My pills are made for nightclub. If you tested few of them on people in a night club they would say this is the most nice pills they used ;)
They least few hours, and mixed with alchool you feel even better.
I will ship it today or tomorow, along with all my other orders.
Thanks!
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I described the crystal meth as rushing through my neck etc. Also extreme horniness and way too sexual behaviour.
The ice I got was not from SR, it was from a friend of mine as I mentioned who lives stateside and acquired from a high quality lab rather than some trailer.
Compared to boymaster speed it was "stronger". I doubt crystal wife sells meth close to that in quality.. I don't know if they have the production as well nailed down in Germany as they do across the pond.
I can't say it's 2x or 3x more potent per dose because the effects differ somewhat from ampehtamine sulfate.. but I preferred to snort no more than 75mg and this would be plenty for me at no tolerance. bumps only at 50mg. Although I don't think I was in great shape when I used BM stuff as I had withdrawn from GABA agonists just a week previously.. but yes amphetamine sulfate is more clear- it makes you feel like you're in the zone all the time. You're functioning at 100% in every aspect (except penis size). The crystal meth is more like, you feel like you're a demi-god/super-human.. personally not something I am interested in. At least at full doses..
I think everyone who does meth as well will end up donig some sexual acitvity due to the extreme dopamine rush- and when you do sexual stuff it increases the reward system. Plus on meth you can fuck/watch porn for hours and and hours. Meanwhile you're running your heart into the ground and from my limited knowledge dopamine+serotonin extended = neurotoxic. As I mentioned, meth comes with the serotonergic bonus/fuckup.
Someone mentioned using it instead of adderall but why? Just use amphetamine sulfate then- it's a safer drug that has been around and used for ages without people turning into the living dead.. it's what I'm doing. If muslix says meth was underwhelming from crystalwife compared to all the speed (I think his best so far here has been Boymaster and good crystal blows it away) then i would not buy it at all, sounds like weak meth then plain and simple. or who knows, maybe you need to take 2 points (200mg) to get full meth effects from hers I don't know. Maybe I did have top shelf crystal. I had a gram for little over 100 usd.
Also with meth, route of ingestion makes the effects vary quite a bunch vs amph. I preferred railing it, had to crush it up for a while cause of the shards- let me tell you this, it burns about twice as much as boymaster amph which burns quite nicely too.. The shit bunk stuff I got from DiscountDrugs- I could not feel or taste anything going into my nose so- and just instantly knew it was a ripoff/scam. Although what would worry the hell out of me is if something burnt my nose and I didn't get high from it lol.
I think I could easily identify that meth rush if I tried the speed pills... If you touch your genitals and there's like an electric charge, hey that's meth. lol but not just that...
I am curious about rigolos pills, fact of the matter is they could be any type of amphetamine mixture.. I would not mind a party pill per say but as long as it's not strong meth.. that's not for partying, that is for becoming some type of deviant sex mutant. If you watch this docu it pretty much nails the effects:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE5sCv901L4
(I really recommend this documentary, it is probably the best drug related documentary I have ever seen- and shows precisely how a drug transformed a community- specifically the gay community in this.)
.. now, I am looking for something that puts me in the zone, makes me an ace socially, helps me enjoy sex more- but not until my johnson falls off. Being in the zone is nice, because you're still you. Being a super human is not sustainable, every moment you're superhuman is a moment you lose from your actual life as a human being- and eventually you transform into a superzombie...
So, current legit and posibly legit vendors of interest and potential:
Note that NONE OF THESE ARE FRICKEN PASTES OR REFERRED TO AS "BASE".
Waiting for
BoyMaster alleged new uncut batch (higher than 70%)
MrFireUK new uncut batch (someone with high tolerance guesstimated it at 65% )
Current batch is legitimate but has caffeine in it? no thanks, I am mildly caffeine allergic
CapeCrusader uncut powder.. looks good but who knows what these south africans are up to :) waiting for reviews although I have a good feeling that it will be decent product.
rigolo's unknown canadian speed pills (these things need to be labtested but they're most likely some type of amphetamine/s)
I did order a sample from OldAmsterdam but it is described as a wet paste, although there was one person mentioning that 100mg gave girl decent rush compared to street speed (which isn't saying much since street speed is what 5-20%). Doubt it's 72% purity if a girl takes 100mg but who knows her tolerance.. but he put up samples so it is probably decent but I doubt it will compete with other aforementioned dry powder.
In 2 weeks I think things should be a lot clearer on who's got the best shit. Also some stuff might be subjective so maybe some will prefer the mystery pills over the powders.
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See you guys were discussing Meth a few pages pack, quite surprised to see some of you were pretty underwhelmed with it's potency considering I'd always just known it to be a FAR stronger than amphetamine's effects per amount, as well as euphoric. As someone mentioned, kind of like a batshit potent amphetamine with added Euphoria. Would you say it has something to do with perhaps the availability and quality on SR is lacking a little right now or just my preconceptions of the drug were way off?
Really tempted to try Crystal Meth regardless, and Crystall Wife being the only EU seller at this point I'd probably shoot for, but considering (as of now) 0.2g is around double the price of 1g of MrFireUK's product, which can easily keep me going for a couple of days, using heavily at that (for my level of tolerance anyway), not sure how well it really stacks up in terms of bang for buck.
Of course we're talking different drugs so I'm aware your paying for varying experiences in terms of effects and potency, but in terms of pure usage how long do would you regular amp users get out 0.2g of CW's Crystal? If you guys were getting through that easily in say a day without even being regular Meth users, I'm really not sure I'd consider it worth it really, unless it was just that fucking good which as you guys mentioned before you were in fact underwhelmed for the most part. Interested what you might have to say regardless.
(Disclaimer: The Grand Wizard is a lover, not a chemist or a physician. All corrections welcome).
IIRC, pure methamphetamine is twice as potent as pure amphetamine and crosses the blood-brain barrier a bit more quickly and thus gives a slightly better rush.
Amphetamine and methamphetamine both have two isomers -- left-facing (levo) and right-facing (dextro). If you're getting racemic amphetamine you're getting a 50/50 combo of levoamphetamine and dextroamphetamine. The dextro- is the good stuff -- that's why "dexedrine" is twice as strong mg for mg as "benzedrine" or racemic amphetamine pills .
Today's crystal meth is mostly brewed from pseudoephedrine, which produces dextromethamphetamine. Levomethamphetamine is found in nasal inhalers and is pretty much inactive. That means that it's at least twice as strong as the old "bathtub crank" recipes which produced racemic methamphetamine -- and four times as strong as the amphetamine being sold in Europe.
Of course, this equation doesn't take into account the purity of the actual substance at hand. I have no idea how much the average packet of European speed has been cut or what percentage of a shard consists of methamphetamine. It also doesn't take into account that crystal meth can be smoked or that some people consider the high to be qualitatively different from and superior to amphetamine. But if you're using the same means of ingestion for the two and you're getting high-quality amps, it's not surprising that you might find meth pleasant but not mind-blowing.
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received yet NBOME speed sample, will upload an pic from it and then try some
hmm the nice one is he said he shipped 0.5g but at the end i became 1g,
its completely oily and smell like nothing
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=7881dbfafab34ffe8fc7b3d87bae331c.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=eaa29df896769ad1fa2653ac46082849.jpg
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OldAmsterdam's stuff arrived, initial thoughts are that SEVERE improvements to the packaging need to be made, immediately.
Much of the contents had leaked out, saturated the contents of the mail, and on the outside of the mail there were visible dried-paste marks - doesn't get much more sketchy than that..
Of the 1g sample, it looks like there is MAYBE .2g left that hasn't leaked out.
I'm going to let this dry out before trying, but so far I am not optimistic about the 72% claims.
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A documentary mentioned that meth is 3 times stronger than coke.
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@Müslix ordered from Jannis aswell, the guy seems very legit, got the lsd for some time, but just didn't had the time to try it yet.. will probably try tomorrow *freu* 8)
@MDDude the shit looks disgusting, well there is that very small chance that its amphbase, but more likely its solvents mixed with shit and some amph..
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OldAmsterdam's stuff arrived, initial thoughts are that SEVERE improvements to the packaging need to be made, immediately.
Much of the contents had leaked out, saturated the contents of the mail, and on the outside of the mail there were visible dried-paste marks - doesn't get much more sketchy than that..
Of the 1g sample, it looks like there is MAYBE .2g left that hasn't leaked out.
I'm going to let this dry out before trying, but so far I am not optimistic about the 72% claims.
Wow. Where are you based? I am interested to know how this got past customs. I'm currently putting alot of effort into my packaging to avoid this exact thing. Maybe too much since these kinds of packages get through?
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A simple windowed business envelope, product vacuum sealed or heat sealed metal bag and pressed flat with a believable covering letter seems to me to be the perfect way to send powders!
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@Müslix ordered from Jannis aswell, the guy seems very legit, got the lsd for some time, but just didn't had the time to try it yet.. will probably try tomorrow *freu* 8)
@MDDude the shit looks disgusting, well there is that very small chance that its amphbase, but more likely its solvents mixed with shit and some amph..
yeah i never saw such a oily base, he also advitest in the listening that its white and not yellow wet/oily that i became,
could the oily one the base and the rest "trägermaterial"
bm´s base was wet but not oily and smelled like amphetamine,this one smells like "oil?" no amphe smell....i will dry 10 mg and see if the oily one goes away...anybody also reveived nbome speed meanwhile that look like mine and tryed it ? honestly im anixious to try that shit out but lets dry a bit maybe it will turn white.pls share your expirience with me
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Sorry guys, the picture isn't great and obviously the product sweats when in a small bag. If people aren't happy I will have a look at drying it out
Apologies if people think I have been misleading in my listing but I state the product is not as pictured and is an off white paste. I will upload a proper picture tomorrow to my listing.
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Sorry guys, the picture isn't great and obviously the product sweats when in a small bag. If people aren't happy I will have a look at drying it out
Apologies if people think I have been misleading in my listing but I state the product is not as pictured and is an off white paste. I will upload a proper picture tomorrow to my listing.
yeah but its yellow not white as stated and i would not say its wet it feels oily and it have no smell that makes me nervous
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Sorry guys, the picture isn't great and obviously the product sweats when in a small bag. If people aren't happy I will have a look at drying it out
Apologies if people think I have been misleading in my listing but I state the product is not as pictured and is an off white paste. I will upload a proper picture tomorrow to my listing.
yeah but its yellow not white as stated and i would not say its wet it feels oily and it have no smell that makes me nervous
The amphetamine itself is odourless, so that's no reason to be nervous. I'd be more worried about what it's mixed with.
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OldAmsterdam's stuff arrived, initial thoughts are that SEVERE improvements to the packaging need to be made, immediately.
Much of the contents had leaked out, saturated the contents of the mail, and on the outside of the mail there were visible dried-paste marks - doesn't get much more sketchy than that..
Of the 1g sample, it looks like there is MAYBE .2g left that hasn't leaked out.
I'm going to let this dry out before trying, but so far I am not optimistic about the 72% claims.
Wow. Where are you based? I am interested to know how this got past customs. I'm currently putting alot of effort into my packaging to avoid this exact thing. Maybe too much since these kinds of packages get through?
USA. I'm curious as well, sketchiest mail I have ever seen by far.
HOWEVER, the ~50mg I tried seems to be fairly solid in quality, noticeable albeit subtle plateau but overall, it has been a smooth, enjoyable ride.
Until the vendor asserts some sort of guarantee of an initiative in overhauling his packaging, I will stay away. The status quo of the packaging is simply too sketchy to order, especially since I'm sure we are all anticipating BM's re-stock.
@muslix, got a question for you since you seem really knowledgeable regarding pep, what are your thoughts on up-regulation/replenishment of dopamine in between pep usages?
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Depends on which country you are in I suppose and where you receive it from. I have received about 250 different packages over the past 7 years to the same location. Once from pharmacy that was a fairly large order of ritalin (which is scheduled same as cocaine here without script), clonazepam, tramadol, xanax, temazepam (which is the highest scheduled benzo with rohypnol here) and other good stuff I can't remember. The box was rattling like a rattle snake. Yet was untouched.
but I ordered from OldAmsterdam it makes me nervous that he has a leaky package, one of the feedbacks also said the packaging was awful... also that 0.8g of the product would be "lost".. wtf is it.. 80% liquid weight?
As I mentioned, it's impossible for this to be 72% purity.. the way he described it was 72% purity to me was just a jumblefuck of an explanation.
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Wow. Where are you based? I am interested to know how this got past customs. I'm currently putting alot of effort into my packaging to avoid this exact thing. Maybe too much since these kinds of packages get through?
One can never be too discreet with packaging. As a vendor, you not only have to get the package past customs: you've got to make sure your customer feels safe receiving it. Just because OldAmsterdam got lucky once doesn't mean you should lower your standards.
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Boymaster packaging is so good it even fools you which makes you extra inclined to order from him.
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I have also received the sample of OldAmsterdam,
Was expecting the worst after reading the leakage issue but it has arrived completely intact with no obvious smell or visible traces on the outside. The seal itself actually doesn't seem particularly bad in my case at least as far as I can see that is. My order was a domestic shipping no need to say that with international shipping the overall security risk is considerably higher. To avoid dripping and possible leakage next time a logical advice would be to always double seal it and send the paste sufficiently dried.
Anyway nuff said about that moving on the quality briefly. Only sampled about 80mg for now and without going into detail about the item description, I agree with generationlost that it seems fairly solid quality. It feels genuine imo and kicked in quickly within minutes just as it should after using one average sized line of decent amphetamine/speed powder.
To wrap it up.. we need more feedback but as far as I'm concerned the quality seems good so far.
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UK vendor comparison.
I ordered speed base from dmtdoodlsd? 4 weeks ago, and from MrFireUK 3 weeks ago. Having come back to try their speed this week (stashed some), in similar situations with less heroic doses. I can compare better, a night of snorting around 150mg of each (days not close together, good rest between).
I prefer MrFireUK's speed. The strength seems good and on par, but being dry you get much more with MrFireUK and the quality of the high is nicer (speedier, happier, better enjoyment of music).
Has anyone tried MrFireUK and another vendor and can also comment? I think I will reorder from him.
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Right, I have sorted out the picture and I am in the process of changing them on my listings.
Here it is:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=120d2b47a5c7eb0b81e8dab4d7e8afa9.jpeg
As you can see it is as described, off white,The pic was the closest I could find until I worked out how to scrub metadata. I probably should have callled it beige. It does have oily residue and becomes slightly oily when it sweats in the bags during transit. I recommend storing in the freezer or laying on some paper for a few hours and it will remove the oily residue, it will dry completely. I always ship extra to cover for this.
I have repeat orders and I know the quality of my product is good, if you doubt it, just try some, you will be surprised.
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I ordered speed base from dmtdoodlsd? 4 weeks ago, and from MrFireUK 3 weeks ago. Having come back to try their speed this week (stashed some), in similar situations with less heroic doses. I can compare better, a night of snorting around 150mg of each (days not close together, good rest between).
I wouldn't order any speed from dmtdoodelsd.. better vendors now and his gear is most likely in the lower echelons. Also he's erratic, comes into thread trying to talk his shit up, offers samples to certain people then fucks off- is rude in pm.
I'd avoid- now there should be at least 4 better options at better prices so.
Guideline: If no one is talking a lot about someone's stuff in thread it's probably not the best shiz... At least it doesn't seem to be bunk but why buy average when there are better options.
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Hi guys, i'm sorry for the bad packages. I already bought new equipment to vacuum seal everything. So from now on everything will be perfect, no leaking packages.
And about losing weight; it's normal when you get paste. The liquid pure 100% speed (AA oil) will be mixed up with methanol and cafeine. From that on you'll get 72% maximum grade,and that's paste!
When it is 'wet' it's perfectly to mix it up with cafeine. The quality i have can easily mix 1 on 1.
If you want it dry? You'll get it dry, but then it's not so easy to mix up wth cafeine when it's paste.
Regards, OldAmsterdam
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Hi guys, i'm sorry for the bad packages. I already bought new equipment to vacuum seal everything. So from now on everything will be perfect, no leaking packages.
And about losing weight; it's normal when you get paste. The liquid pure 100% speed (AA oil) will be mixed up with methanol and cafeine. From that on you'll get 72% maximum grade,and that's paste!
When it is 'wet' it's perfectly to mix it up with cafeine. The quality i have can easily mix 1 on 1.
If you want it dry? You'll get it dry, but then it's not so easy to mix up wth cafeine when it's paste.
Regards, OldAmsterdam
With all due respect. This is completely untrue. The paste is obtained by adding Sulphuric acid to the amphetamine freebase and not allowing it to dry out properly. If you let it dry and chopped it up you would obtain amphetamine sulphate powder..
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Agree with CapeCrusader, amphetamine freebase is an oil (oh dear once you've smell (meth)amph freebase, you remember it for life!!) and you just turn it to a salt (mostly sulfate for amph because less hygroscopic than HCL salt).
Your "paste" is just wet amph salt...which pretty much sucks....and the less caffeine, the better. No caffeine => best!!
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Hi guys, i'm sorry for the bad packages. I already bought new equipment to vacuum seal everything. So from now on everything will be perfect, no leaking packages.
And about losing weight; it's normal when you get paste. The liquid pure 100% speed (AA oil) will be mixed up with methanol and cafeine. From that on you'll get 72% maximum grade,and that's paste!
When it is 'wet' it's perfectly to mix it up with cafeine. The quality i have can easily mix 1 on 1.
If you want it dry? You'll get it dry, but then it's not so easy to mix up wth cafeine when it's paste.
Regards, OldAmsterdam
I thought your description said no caffeine. As I mentioned, I can react very poorly to caffeine. I hate when people mix caffeine with amphetamine sulfate. It's an absolute pisstake, caffeine peak lasts like 20% of amphetamine. It creates a pretty bad dependency and it's completely own withdrawal. I have no desire to stimulate my adrenal glands while I'm already taking amphetamine. People who mix caffeine into their product are bastards/don't know what they're doing.
MDPV is crap yes, it is quite hard to dose, short duration and you never get to where you want to be.
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Just a heads up there's a new seller in speed section selling product callded "polish speedway"
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/fba91eab83
I messaged asking
"Hi.. is this amphetamine sulfate?
Is it dry powder and uncut?
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polq1234
yes it's dry powder but it's not amphetamine but alternative substance lots people in domestic market say it's stronger than amphetamine
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..... alternative substance? what the fuck? I know pretty much every substance RC and illegal. A huge portion of the speed section is such a massive pisstake. I guess it's polish AspirantCooper, at least this guy is honest though.. but totally wrong and misleading to put some UNKNOWN SUBSTANCE in speed section and call it "speedway".
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Has anyone tried MrFireUK and another vendor and can also comment? I think I will reorder from him.
I've ordered from MrFireUK on 3-4 occasions. As far as Silkroad Goes I'd say he's about as faultless as a vendor I've ever delt with. Quality product, packaging, communication and quick dispatch (UK>UK).
He's also stated that he's changing to a new completely uncut batch as soon as his current stock has run out, which seems to be selling pretty well. So if you like his current batch you might want to re-order whilst it's still there, as I'd imagine the newer and stronger batch will be a fair bit more expensive.
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Here in in Holland we call it AA oil.. And indeed i forgot to say mixed with sulfuric acid (mixed with water), methanol, cafeine.. That's the way how it goes here in holland. That's why we call it dutch speed...
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AA oil is a local term here in Holland for freebase amphetamine, or we call it 'wet speed'. But it's all the same.. It's made from BMK oil.
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OldAmsterdam: With all due respect. That sounds fucking disgusting. I want real amph sulphate. Dry, clean and nice shiny white that rips my head off. (You know what i mean ::) )
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@muslix you are funny kid... do you know how you should upload proper photo?
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Here in in Holland we call it AA oil.. And indeed i forgot to say mixed with sulfuric acid (mixed with water), methanol, cafeine.. That's the way how it goes here in holland. That's why we call it dutch speed...
Sulphuric acid mixed with water? Given the high solubility amphetamine has in water you would be losing a great percentage of your product by adding sulphuric acid mixed with water to it..
You have now openly admitted that your product is mixed with methanol. Methanol? Are you kidding me? I urge anybody who is considering purchasing this product to read up on the toxicity of methanol..
CC
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lol müslix, actually the pure chemical amphetamine is a liquid. However, amphetamine evaporates quickly at room temperature, so freebase is almost always a gas. It is impossible to consume that way, and almost impossible to handle. That's the reason why it's converted to a salt, like bernardo29 said, using sulfuric acid, creating amphetamine sulfate! Yay! Now we have our lovely powder that should NOT be wet or gaseous, that is ready to be consumed.
If OldAmsterdam really does get a bunch of closed glass beakers with amphetamine in them, and adds sulfuric acid to them and gives us pure amphetamine sulfate, that'd be pretty neat, but I agree with müslix, and really really doubt he gets base amphetamine, and not amphetamine sulfate cut with some liquid to make it wet and seem authentic. Plus why add water? I'm not sure but that sounds like it could mess up the sulfuric acid and the assumed pure amphetamine. Plus the water would just evaporate later. And yes, ew, methanol, stop it.
Saying it's dutch doesn't mean anything with speed. Ecstasy pills then yeah maybe, but with speed no. I only trust Amsterdope, but he also cuts it with caffeine. I'm sticking to Boymaster, or MrFireUK if he doesn't show up soon.
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Don't know if it's just me, but BMs speed does not work as expected.
I tried 20mg without tolerance and felt pretty good for max an hour. Then I was just coming down from the high.
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Also, you'd think that a drug's dealers would be smart enough to not try to rip off the people who spend their free time googling the drug itself for hours, and talking about the drug.
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Here in in Holland we call it AA oil.. And indeed i forgot to say mixed with sulfuric acid (mixed with water), methanol, cafeine.. That's the way how it goes here in holland. That's why we call it dutch speed...
Sulphuric acid mixed with water? Given the high solubility amphetamine has in water you would be losing a great percentage of your product by adding sulphuric acid mixed with water to it..
You have now openly admitted that your product is mixed with methanol. Methanol? Are you kidding me? I urge anybody who is considering purchasing this product to read up on the toxicity of methanol..
CC
You must mix the sulphuric acid with water 24hours before use. Otherwise the sulphuric acid is way to strong...
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Sigh, from the description on OldAmsterdam product page I believed there would be no caffeine mixed into it... and then methanol?
Amphetamine, caffeine and poison? I don't understand this at all. Can't you just mix it with dextrose instead of this caffeine shit. Addition of caffeine is something I absolutely loathe and it ruins speed. It just causes jitters & edginess. Caffeine effects last short and afterwards there's jitters/anxiety.. Some people have caffeine allergy too while they can tolerate amphetamine just fine. To the point where a pure caffeine crash is several times worse than an amphetamine crash.
If it's sub 10mg caffeine per 100mg then it'd be tolerable but.. now to guesstimate the amounts of fuckerage caffeine will cause when it's impossible to know the purity (72% does not seem believable- since I had BM stuff at 70% then i should be able to tell at least which is stronger and more likely 70%).
I recommend against anyone to purchase speed with caffeine in it unless you've got a caffeine dependency and you're fine with it. You only need a few days of caffeine usage to cause a little irritating WD of mental fatigue, to top that off with amphetamine no thanks.
Please, amphetamine vendors: STOP CUTTING WITH CAFFEINE PERIOD. If you're gonna cut do it with dextrose or something that has zero effect.
Me and most of who I know do not wish to use speed with caffeine in it.
Hope there's absolutely no caffeine in MrFireUK new batch and none in others.
numbering:
20mg? that's barely a threshhold dose at 70%(stated) although it didn't exactly blow me out of the water but my GABA levels were a little out of whack i think.
I heard through the grapevine stock will be in a few days.
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I love this place. It seems to really be promoting/directing the production of quality, safer product. I hope vendors don't take offense to this thread, because really it is a blueprint on how to be a very successful/professional vendor. Step one have a pure product and have quality controls in place to insure people get what you advertise. To get this you need to know all the workings of what you sale or know someone that does and trust them (This forum can help). Step two, know your customers. The amphetamine business really is a tough market because your customer base (particularly on here) are often very motivated intellectual types that have a brain that is analytical by nature......that is why we like stimulants. The plus side for the vendor is a higher rate of customers will have the funds to purchase your products and and have the capability to be a long time customer.
Why wouldn't you want to send pure product? Less weight to ship and you will have a higher success with delivery. Yes, your prices may have to be higher, but as with anything the smart people with good funding will be your customers.....isn't that what you want?
Thank you to all the funny, smart reviewers on here. Lately it has been my favorite thread to follow. Keep it up.
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You must mix the sulphuric acid with water 24hours before use. Otherwise the sulphuric acid is way to strong...
Would you mind elaborating a little on this procedure? I'm not 100% on the specifics of clandestine amphetamine manufacture, but I imagine the freebase->salt conversion goes something like "mix sulphuric acid with amphetamine freebase until pH reaches appropriate level, wash formed sulphate with appropriate solvent". At least that's my kitchen chemist-level understanding of it :). The method you describe is obviously different, so I'm curious about your rationale. Does adding water and methanol serve any purpose other than the obvious?
Perhaps BM can summon his chemist personality (I'm guessing it's the one with a hint of spanish in his writing) to weigh in on this?
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Here in in Holland we call it AA oil.. And indeed i forgot to say mixed with sulfuric acid (mixed with water), methanol, cafeine.. That's the way how it goes here in holland. That's why we call it dutch speed...
Sulphuric acid mixed with water? Given the high solubility amphetamine has in water you would be losing a great percentage of your product by adding sulphuric acid mixed with water to it..
You have now openly admitted that your product is mixed with methanol. Methanol? Are you kidding me? I urge anybody who is considering purchasing this product to read up on the toxicity of methanol..
CC
You must mix the sulphuric acid with water 24hours before use. Otherwise the sulphuric acid is way to strong...
Or just mix it with something like anhydrous isopropyl alcohol. This would serve you much better..
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You must mix the sulphuric acid with water 24hours before use. Otherwise the sulphuric acid is way to strong...
Would you mind elaborating a little on this procedure? I'm not 100% on the specifics of clandestine amphetamine manufacture, but I imagine the freebase->salt conversion goes something like "mix sulphuric acid with amphetamine freebase until pH reaches appropriate level, wash formed sulphate with appropriate solvent". At least that's my kitchen chemist-level understanding of it :). The method you describe is obviously different, so I'm curious about your rationale. Does adding water and methanol serve any purpose other than the obvious?
Perhaps BM can summon his chemist personality (I'm guessing it's the one with a hint of spanish in his writing) to weigh in on this?
Yes you are correct. You would have to make a solution of sulphuric acid in anhydrous IPA then dissolve the freebase amphetamine in some anhydrous IPA. Then slowly acidify the freebase solution by adding the sulphuric acid solution until it reaches an ideal PH. You can then wash it with some anhydrous acetone.. Using a sulphuric acid/water solution makes no sense whatsoever since amphetamine sulphate is so soluble in water so you would lose a great deal of product when filtering..
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Caffeine sucks in speed we all agree on that but I'm afraid it's just pretty hard to avoid on the European speed market. The Dutch market and test centers are monitored by DIMS (Drugs Information and Monitoring System) based on the latest statistics of all the lab tested speed samples the average purity is about 30% (I think base equivalent) and the average percentage caffeine is about 40%.
When looking at the EMCDDA statistical bulletin 2012 it's fairly realistic to assume that it's not much better in the rest of Europe, in fact probably worse.
http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/stats12#display:/stats12/ppptab8a
Off-topic: other interesting info maybe for people who like it,
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29100750/Amphetamine-Sulphate-Synthesis (basic summary of a P2NP route)
http://www.monzir-pal.net/Poisons%20and%20Drugs/Lecture%20Presentation/Amphetamine%20and%20Related%20Drugs%20P8.pdf
http://www.monzir-pal.net/Poisons%20and%20Drugs/Lecture%20material/amphetamine%20and%20related%20compounds.pdf
http://www.monzir-pal.net/Poisons%20and%20Drugs/Lectures%20and%20Study%20Material.htm
http://toxicology.ws/Greenberg/Chapter%2066%20-%20Clandestine%20Drug%20Laboratories.pdf
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Caffeine sucks in speed we all agree on that but I'm afraid it's just pretty hard to avoid on the European speed market. The Dutch market and test centers are monitored by DIMS (Drugs Information and Monitoring System) based on the latest statistics of all the lab tested speed samples the average purity is about 30% (I think base equivalent) and the average percentage caffeine is about 40%.
According to http://www.md.rcm.upr.edu/publications/sidney_kaye/toxicology-of-caffeine.htm , that translates to 1 gram of "speed" equaling 4 cups of coffee.
That doesn't seem like that big of a deal. I have some of MrFireUKs old batch on the way, so maybe I'll change my mind on that subject. But I doubt it since I drink 3 litres of cola light a day, so I probably have quite a caffeine dependency/tolerance.
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WE ARE BACK! With the best quality and the same great service as always!!!
The listings will be up on Monday. Only PURE amphetamine sulfate >96% guaranteed. SO TAKE CARE WITH DOSAGES.
The prices have been adjusted in consequence with the increase in purity but the price per gram of amphetamine is still the same.
You must mix the sulphuric acid with water 24hours before use. Otherwise the sulphuric acid is way to strong...
Would you mind elaborating a little on this procedure? I'm not 100% on the specifics of clandestine amphetamine manufacture, but I imagine the freebase->salt conversion goes something like "mix sulphuric acid with amphetamine freebase until pH reaches appropriate level, wash formed sulphate with appropriate solvent". At least that's my kitchen chemist-level understanding of it :). The method you describe is obviously different, so I'm curious about your rationale. Does adding water and methanol serve any purpose other than the obvious?
Perhaps BM can summon his chemist personality (I'm guessing it's the one with a hint of spanish in his writing) to weigh in on this?
-It's more complex than that but that's the essence, the amphetamine freebase molecules have to get in contact with the acid in an homogenous medium (solvent) to react it in the proper conditions. After that the solvent has to be removed by vacuum filtration, distillation or just evaporation and the product washed with other solvent (less polar) and vacuum filtered another time. Obviously the solvent has to be completely discarded and the amphetamine should end completely dry. There's no reason to leave any solvent in it.
It's the same process in a clandestine lab, a legal one, pharm industry, etc...
The 24h advice is bullshit, one can mix it with a diluent (water or alcohol) just before use, 24h or one month before... it's irrelevant as long as the solution doesn't get too hot.
Best regards
BM
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Yes you are correct. You would have to make a solution of sulphuric acid in anhydrous IPA then dissolve the freebase amphetamine in some anhydrous IPA. Then slowly acidify the freebase solution by adding the sulphuric acid solution until it reaches an ideal PH. You can then wash it with some anhydrous acetone.. Using a sulphuric acid/water solution makes no sense whatsoever since amphetamine sulphate is so soluble in water so you would lose a great deal of product when filtering..
-It's more complex than that but that's the essence, the amphetamine freebase molecules have to get in contact with the acid in an homogenous medium (solvent) to react it in the proper conditions. After that the solvent has to be removed by vacuum filtration, distillation or just evaporation and the product washed with other solvent (less polar) and vacuum filtered another time. Obviously the solvent has to be completely discarded and the amphetamine should end completely dry. There's no reason to leave any solvent in it.
It's the same process in a clandestine lab, a legal one, pharm industry, etc...
The 24h advice is bullshit, one can mix it with a diluent (water or alcohol) just before use, 24h or one month before... it's irrelevant as long as the solution doesn't get too hot.
Thanks to both of you, and sorry CapeCrusader for not directing the question to you too.
NOTE TO (other) VENDORS: This is what you compete against. Be honest about your product.
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Woohoo Great news BoyMaster thanks for the heads up...You are the man!!
These other vendors do need to step up their game. This bullshit story telling is just that. Too much real information about amp out there if you really care to find it. The worldwide web made it far too easy shit I am an old Hillbilly I know how to find actual original journals and read those. I know kind goes against some of that hillbilly concept but what the hell. Do actual reading that does not have pictures or comics associated once in a while kiddies. Turn off the evil computer and go old school. Seriously caffeine tastes and smells like hell the way these jokers are mixing it in. First thing I detect in any of the attempts made with famed Amsterdam vendors on here. Not to mention what the hell solvents are these guys using? All of UK vendors i have tried also have either a dreadful acetate or other shitty aromatic solvent and the shit is soaked. plus the load of caffeine is unreal. I have not tried wither NBOME or obviously FireUK since he wont ship here.
Peace
Hilly
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WE ARE BACK! With the best quality and the same great service as always!!!
The listings will be up on Monday. Only PURE amphetamine sulfate >96% guaranteed. SO TAKE CARE WITH DOSAGES.
The prices have been adjusted in consequence with the increase in purity but the price per gram of amphetamine is still the same.
You must mix the sulphuric acid with water 24hours before use. Otherwise the sulphuric acid is way to strong...
Would you mind elaborating a little on this procedure? I'm not 100% on the specifics of clandestine amphetamine manufacture, but I imagine the freebase->salt conversion goes something like "mix sulphuric acid with amphetamine freebase until pH reaches appropriate level, wash formed sulphate with appropriate solvent". At least that's my kitchen chemist-level understanding of it :). The method you describe is obviously different, so I'm curious about your rationale. Does adding water and methanol serve any purpose other than the obvious?
Perhaps BM can summon his chemist personality (I'm guessing it's the one with a hint of spanish in his writing) to weigh in on this?
-It's more complex than that but that's the essence, the amphetamine freebase molecules have to get in contact with the acid in an homogenous medium (solvent) to react it in the proper conditions. After that the solvent has to be removed by vacuum filtration, distillation or just evaporation and the product washed with other solvent (less polar) and vacuum filtered another time. Obviously the solvent has to be completely discarded and the amphetamine should end completely dry. There's no reason to leave any solvent in it.
It's the same process in a clandestine lab, a legal one, pharm industry, etc...
The 24h advice is bullshit, one can mix it with a diluent (water or alcohol) just before use, 24h or one month before... it's irrelevant as long as the solution doesn't get too hot.
Best regards
BM
let me apologize now for the following does-not-contribute-anything-useful post:
heeeellllllllll yeeeessssssssss!
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im trying speed for the first time next week <3
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As I mentioned further up, I have finally placed an order with Crystall Wife and will post up a review of the product once received. How do you regtular amp users take Meth? I'm assuming crushing up into a powder then insufflating is the most common way? Think I'll also try a 50mg oral does to see how that'll go. A little trouble understanding he vendor page. Seems to indicated to me that if you chose the standard shipping option and the order's less tha 5g then you aren't required to FE. I do prefer to use Escrow however, but find her paae a little tricky to make out, anyone else know?
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Oh Boy, the Master is back. 8)
@BM: Do you mind sharing your prices for smaller quantities (up to 10g)?
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As I mentioned further up, I have finally placed an order with Crystall Wife and will post up a review of the product once received. How do you regtular amp users take Meth? I'm assuming crushing up into a powder then insufflating is the most common way? Think I'll also try a 50mg oral does to see how that'll go. A little trouble understanding he vendor page. Seems to indicated to me that if you chose the standard shipping option and the order's less tha 5g then you aren't required to FE. I do prefer to use Escrow however, but find her paae a little tricky to make out, anyone else know?
I have placed a few orders with CW and never had to FE. Standard shipping option, less than 5g per order.
I got a nice buzz from 30mg of Crystall Wife's meth (oral). It gave me more of a mood lift with increased energy than laser sharp focus, which could very well be an inherent quality of meth itself. If not it was probably because my tolerance to serotonin mediated effects (as in mood lift) was not as high as my dopamine tolerance. Either way I think 50mg oral is a rather high starting dose even for someone with a tolerance.
CW's product is slightly moist (but by no means a paste) so you probably want to dry it before trying to chop up lines. When put on a heated dinner plate the powder dries in only a few seconds.
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BM
Please safe some for me. I will get btc's by tuesday.
Btw, what will prices be like in btc??
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@BM: Do you mind sharing your prices for smaller quantities (up to 10g)?
and 10g and up, please!
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BM
Please safe some for me. I will get btc's by tuesday.
Btw, what will prices be like in btc??
Yea save some for me too!! Luckily I can get BTC right away tho. BTC exchange rate is fucking crazy right now, but I'm first of all not gonna pass up the chance to buy pure from the best, and second even tho I still have like half of my stash still, I'm gonna buy it sooner or later. No point in always worrying about if the time when my stash runs out will sync up with the time BTC is at an alright price and Boymaster is around. Besides, his old batch gets me flying for hours and hours and hours and... well you get the point. Pure for a good price? Fuck I'm not missing out on that.
I know I'm a junkie. Don't care. I can't take any for a big part of early Sept, and late Oct, anyway. It's just comforting knowing that I have enough sitting around in my fridge for months.
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I'll probably repeat myself but I'll say it once more - the BTC exchange rate does not have any influence on the prices here on SR as most vendors use the option to automatically adjust the BTC price according to the current rate. This option is set by default , a vendor would have to turn it off and I don't see why anyone would do this .. makes no sense at all to me.
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I will try the boymaster stuff monday, if he's doing bulk items (10,20,50) 8)
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No I'm not refering to hedged/unhedged listings although I also don't really know why some vendors put up unhedged listings .. of course you can be lucky and make some extra profit but with a lot of customers taking up to 17 days to finalize their orders you might also end up losing some money.. and although the BTC rate is on the rise at the moment it's just not a good way to do proper business I think - you need some sort of stability to be able to calculate your profits and plan ahead.
If you want to make profit from changing exchange rates then become a daytrader .. if you want to make profit as a drug-dealer then use fixed prices and make sure you'll actually get paid what you had in mind when putting the listing up.
What I was refering to is the option 'automatically adjust BTC prices to exchange rate' .. or something like that. That option becomes available in the settings section after upgrading to a vendor account. This is on by default (not like the option to always hedge listings .. that is turned off by default although it says it's recommended to turn it on). If you put up a listing for a product and set the initial price to 1BTC and the BTC exchange rate is 1 GBP at that particular moment and the next day the exchange rate goes up to 2 GBP then the BTC price of your listing will be adjusted to 0.5 BTC.
Cheers
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Wow, BM is back and MrFireUK will start soon to sell his new batch. Looks like we'll have some party soon...
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The new prices are:
1g-----2,85 btc--------32,43 USD-------25,42 EUR
2g-----5,10 btc--------58,04 USD-------45,49 EUR
5g-----11,30 btc------128,59 USD------100,80 EUR
10g----20,30 btc------231,01 USD-----181,08 EUR
25g----44,00 btc------500,72 USD-----392,48 EUR
50g----76,00 btc------864,88 USD-----677,92 EUR
100g---124,00 btc----1411,12 USD---1106,08 EUR
Edit:
@numbering: As you wish your majesty ;)
Our best regards
BM
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The new prices are:
1g-----2,85 btc
2g-----5,10 btc
5g-----11,30 btc
10g----20,30 btc
25g----44,00 btc
50g----76,00 btc
100g---124,00 btc
Our best regards
BM
You're joking, right? Prices in USD please.
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Current exchange rate for BTC right now is about 11.30$ .. not hard to figure that one out , especially if you've already bought some BTC ;)
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Because it's just plain stupid to give out BTC prices because the're changing all the time and especially till monday. If he didn't set up his items at the time of writing his post, it doesn't make sense at all.
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Just got a fair offer for the remaining UK stock of the old speed batch so I took down the UK listings until Monday when I'll finally start selling the new batch :)
About 120 - 130g left in Germany.. should be gone by then too , I'll try to have some of the new batch over in Germany no later than Wednesday.
And yeah my mate just told me that he's still got like 7-8 grams left of the new uncut batch of speed from when I sent him some so he could dispatch a few samples... as he ain't a speed user I thought some of you guys might be interested to get an early taste of that new kickass stuff.
So if you're interested in a 500mg sample of some of the purest speed available just send me a message here or on SR .. available to customers worldwide :) Will charge you a small fee to cover expenses and for the work that's involved and I expect you to write a short review.
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Don't be a dickhead numbering. Really did it occur to you that BM might in fact not consider the USD as the global standard. WE are in fact on a site that requires BTC for purchases. Perhaps since these prices are looking extremely attractive to me even if that 12USD price for BTC were to hold. Shit ti could crash tomorrow for all any of us know if you have been around any time at all. Personally I bought mine at about 4.25USD each so I will poised and waiting.
Peace
Hilly
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I'll finally be able to get some work done a week from now. OldAmsterdam's stuff arrived, I will test it tomorrow and write about it. (very stinky solventy and super sticky, vaccuum sealed)
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Did my first order here @ SR today. :D MrFireUK's old batch. Next week I will definitely try BM's new batch. I'm excited to get some good quality speed.
~Q~
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just received my 10g from MrFireUK, weight on spot, did two lines so far, all good :)
product has very little "moist" smeared it on mirror and chopped, was ready to snort immediately. Giving nice euphoria and energy :)
besides BM, MrFireUK is my vendor of choice regarding speed right now. Really recommend him.
Anyway, saved some coins for BM ;)
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Almost €200 for 10g. Holy fuck man, you're killing me! :[
Ah well what can I do. I give in.
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Well I found out how I can get bitcoins pretty much instantly with euros, so as soon as Monday rolls around, I'll prolly have the order in that night. Hopefully it's not gonna be all gone by then. Last time it was up for about 4 days I think? Not sure, didn't really keep track.
I was hoping I'd be able to keep what I give out in the €80 range. I still have a lot of his old batch, and a little of Amsterdope's. I think all that will actually last till November since I have to take a break like I said. 10g of pure will probably last me for a LOOOOOOOOOONG time.
I'm just thinking of it as an investment. €200 for almost a year's supply is pretty good.
And only 10g? How much do you really get? You must go through it really fast or...?
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Right, I have sorted out the picture and I am in the process of changing them on my listings.
Here it is:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=120d2b47a5c7eb0b81e8dab4d7e8afa9.jpeg
As you can see it is as described, off white,The pic was the closest I could find until I worked out how to scrub metadata. I probably should have callled it beige. It does have oily residue and becomes slightly oily when it sweats in the bags during transit. I recommend storing in the freezer or laying on some paper for a few hours and it will remove the oily residue, it will dry completely. I always ship extra to cover for this.
I have repeat orders and I know the quality of my product is good, if you doubt it, just try some, you will be surprised.
I received my 500mg sample from NBOME today and it was actually 1g! It is exactly as described, beige oily paste. I have not dealt with this oily type too much so I will update after drying and trying. Excellent packaging. Thus, so far, NBOME has delivered!
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As I mentioned further up, I have finally placed an order with Crystall Wife and will post up a review of the product once received. How do you regtular amp users take Meth? I'm assuming crushing up into a powder then insufflating is the most common way? Think I'll also try a 50mg oral does to see how that'll go. A little trouble understanding he vendor page. Seems to indicated to me that if you chose the standard shipping option and the order's less tha 5g then you aren't required to FE. I do prefer to use Escrow however, but find her paae a little tricky to make out, anyone else know?
I have placed a few orders with CW and never had to FE. Standard shipping option, less than 5g per order.
I got a nice buzz from 30mg of Crystall Wife's meth (oral). It gave me more of a mood lift with increased energy than laser sharp focus, which could very well be an inherent quality of meth itself. If not it was probably because my tolerance to serotonin mediated effects (as in mood lift) was not as high as my dopamine tolerance. Either way I think 50mg oral is a rather high starting dose even for someone with a tolerance.
CW's product is slightly moist (but by no means a paste) so you probably want to dry it before trying to chop up lines. When put on a heated dinner plate the powder dries in only a few seconds.
Slightly weird experience with CW. Messaged her asking whether I had to FE or not (couldn't understand her vendor page very well, and I didn't want my shit just sitting there in case I had to). Got a message back saying I had to FE and something to the effect of she'd lost my address o.0, tad odd. So I FE'd as requested and re-sent my address and asked to be informed when the product was in transit. Still waiting to be confirmed via a message back. Her English seems to be very bad so communication is kind of awkward for me, but if it gets here and it's good stuff I wont complain.
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Slightly weird experience with CW. Messaged her asking whether I had to FE or not (couldn't understand her vendor page very well, and I didn't want my shit just sitting there in case I had to). Got a message back saying I had to FE and something to the effect of she'd lost my address o.0, tad odd. So I FE'd as requested and re-sent my address and asked to be informed when the product was in transit. Still waiting to be confirmed via a message back. Her English seems to be very bad so communication is kind of awkward for me, but if it gets here and it's good stuff I wont complain.
Yeah, communicating with CW can be.. interesting. Last time I placed an order with her she sent me a message saying she had a problem reading my address and wanted me to resend it unencrypted via privnote. I didn't do it, so she cancelled the order. The weird thing was that the order had been marked "in transit" for two days already, and the package actually arrived a few days later. Freaked me out a little to be honest :).
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Almost €200 for 10g. Holy fuck man, you're killing me! :[
Ah well what can I do. I give in.
Well.. the previous 70% listing was something like 5g for €60 euro and 10g for about €100 from what I remember and so I was expecting or hoping that the new price would be something like €130-140 for 10g
just received my 10g from MrFireUK, weight on spot, did two lines so far, all good :)
product has very little "moist" smeared it on mirror and chopped, was ready to snort immediately. Giving nice euphoria and energy :)
besides BM, MrFireUK is my vendor of choice regarding speed right now. Really recommend him.
I've received a few grams from MrFireUK a couple of days ago. A lot of people seem to like it so I was prepared for some action but after like 2 x 50mg... waited a good while for it to kick in, but it didn't really. Have to check it some more because I had thrown it aside for the time but it looks very much like caffeine with some amph.
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MrfireUK http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/e9c4f1cb8f (old/current batch)
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http://www.anonmgur.com/up/db7e754f75a564d3241d6d9c02efa488.jpg (copy/paste picture into browser to view)
This is the old/current batch. Mrfireuk has a new uncut batch on the way (I have a sample in the mail, but couldn't wait. ;) )
The letter was posted wednesday/thursday, and arrived this saturday, very fast for international postage. The letter had a clever return address, and the speed itself was vacumpacked.
Product is easy to cut, has a soft feel to it. It doesn't really sting in the nose.
After dosing aprox. 0.15 grams with low tolerance I feel good, talkative, relaxed (that's why I suddenly felt like doing a review, though I hadn't planned to do one till the sample of the new batch arrives :P ). It's not incredible potent, but since it's not cut with anything that disagrees with me, it's just a question of adjusting dosage.
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The drink in the picture I purchased at the pharmacy. It's designed for people with lack of appetite, and if you wanted to you could live of them. I can recommend it over the crap you purchase in a supermarket. Not relevant, but hey, why waste a picture. ;)
@cleveland steamer.
Hmm, I'll try going up to 0.25 and see what happends. But yeah, it's not very potent.
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MrfireUK http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/e9c4f1cb8f (old/current batch)
http://www.anonmgur.com/up/db7e754f75a564d3241d6d9c02efa488.jpg (copy/paste picture into browser to view)
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@cleveland steamer.
Hmm, I'll try going up to 0.25 and see what happends. But yeah, it's not very potent.
Yeah the overall feedback is pretty good and the 1 of 5 rating is not mine by the way.
I don't give a bad rating that quickly especially with such a presumption so take it with a grain of salt.
Will try another lower dose first and a higher dose later..
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Just received CapeCrusader delivery safe and sound..only i'm in Foreign parts and my lady is home with the goodies..looking forward to trying it.....better be some left to sample !!
Still waiting on MrfireUk..should have waited for new batch but then I'm a greedy impetuous speed head....
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I would like to update on NBOME's sample I received. After realizing that you can't insufflate base, I put it in the freezer to preserve it. So after a day of "drying off" (evaporating the base / weakening the product I now realize) before freezing it, I consumed between .1 and .2g and am a feeling the great effects of clean phet (unlike much other stuff I have had from SR). NBOME's stuff is legit, just make sure you know what the difference between base and phosphate/suflate ROAs are!
Thanks NBOME
Edit: see below, evaporation may not be exactly what had happened -- regardless it was still good clean phet
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Hi
I have purchased speed from, OldAmsterdam
the packaging was good and discreet.
the quality is good, my clients find it all good no complaints so fare
I can recommend this seller if you are looking for good speed.
trumps for you m8 5/5
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Hey guys anyone tried PremiumDutch or GermanSupplier ?
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I have purchased phet from MrFireUK to Germany.
Arrived after 1 day.
Today I took a little ''rock'' ( maybe 10mg), but I didn't feel much.
Package was good and descreet.
It was my first time on phet. Should I take a larger dose?
How pure is MrFireUK German Stuff?
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Hi New member here as you can see. Been using phet on and off for about 2 years, just to perk me up. I usually bomb it, and I like to stay focused
I've tried 5 vendors including aakoven, Nbome, DiscountDrugs and a couple others.
Recently, I tried the sample listing from OldAmsterdam and I have to say, this stuff has legs, its last for ages and I took maybe 0.4g!
I highly recommend this guy, he vac seals the bags (zero smell) an the postage was quick (2 days to UK)
A close second place to Nbome, A big thank you to both these guys. Judge for yourself though, you have to pay a little extra, but its quality not quantity!
Big respect!
I'll start to post more now I've seen how active and lush with activity this place is.
Greetings to all and thanks for reading
NumNuts
I also appreciated Nbomes stuff but my favourite vendor is definitely OldAmsterdam
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I've just placed an order with polq1234 for this "SPEEDWAY" gear. It was cheap enough and they didnt demand FE.
I'll update on how this goes, although i've got a mixed gut feeling about this one. I'll report back when and if it comes
NumNuts
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I would like to update on NBOME's sample I received. After realizing that you can't insufflate base, I put it in the freezer to preserve it. So after a day of "drying off" (evaporating the base / weakening the product I now realize) before freezing it, I consumed between .1 and .2g and am a feeling the great effects of clean phet (unlike much other stuff I have had from SR). NBOME's stuff is legit, just make sure you know what the difference between base and phosphate/suflate ROAs are!
To back up müslix, in the UK/AUS the term 'base' is also used as a slang word for speed. Realistically speaking you can assume there is no liquid amphetamine base in the sulphate salt form. That's just a common misconception.
quote from the bluelight amphetamine FAQ, http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/197113-Amphetamine-FAQ
"Sometimes amphetamines are sold as a pasty or waxy substance. There are a few reasons this can happen; a common misconception is that pasty or damp amphetamine samples are 'stronger' than dry powder. Damp of pasty speed can result from leaving it out in the open, especially in a moisture rich environment, because certain chemicals absorb water from the air (explained below). Moreover, if all of the freebase is not properly reacted when converting to salt, the oil will cling to the crystals causing them to stick together in waxy clumps. Neither of these things makes the end-product any more potent than the dry salt (although freebase is more potent by weight than the salt form)."
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sounds legit.
Just to clear this posting up: It's meant ironically:)
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I've just placed an order with polq1234 for this "SPEEDWAY" gear. It was cheap enough and they didnt demand FE.
I'll update on how this goes, although i've got a mixed gut feeling about this one. I'll report back when and if it comes
NumNuts
Afaik that's not phet but an RC.
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That 1/5 looks like an FE to me. Mine look pretty similar. I don't know why ppl give 5/5 if they have to FE. You basically gave your money away for no product (yet) and say best possible transaction. That whole system is somewhat flawed.
You can still change your feedback/rating if you're not happy afterwards ... if everyone who finalizes early (if required or not) would give 1/5 the sellers rating would probably drop down from like 99-100% to 80% in a matter of days ... someone like c63amg who is a good seller but requires a lot of his customers to FE would constantly have a rating probably about 20-30% lower than his current rating although that would not be justified ... so one could say why would you give the worst possible rating before giving the vendor some time to do his job ?
But I agree that the rating system is flawed and could use some changes..
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Hey everyone!
Just tried out Arigolo's speed pills and I'm happy to report that they are very good quality. This will be my go-to product so long as this vendor is around and quality is persistent. You can read my review in the sellers thread here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33319.0
Cheers.
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thank you regicide, I am glad to see one more happy customer.
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sounds legit.
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@MrFireUK
How pure is your stuff?
How much mg's should I take ? ( I haven't a tolerance )
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That 1/5 looks like an FE to me. Mine look pretty similar. I don't know why ppl give 5/5 if they have to FE. You basically gave your money away for no product (yet) and say best possible transaction. That whole system is somewhat flawed.
Big concern here is that the whole rating system is unreliable because vendors can fake it in a way commonly known as sock puppet but let's not go there in this thread, it's much discussed in other threads at the forum. On the other side there are probably only a few vendors who are doing that and we all know who right.
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You can still change your feedback/rating if you're not happy afterwards ... if everyone who finalizes early (if required or not) would give 1/5 the sellers rating would probably drop down from like 99-100% to 80% in a matter of days ... someone like c63amg who is a good seller but requires a lot of his customers to FE would constantly have a rating probably about 20-30% lower than his current rating although that would not be justified ... so one could say why would you give the worst possible rating before giving the vendor some time to do his job ?
But I agree that the rating system is flawed and could use some changes..
A vendor can also boost his rating quite a bit by using FE without having earned it (yet). The argument really goes both ways. That's why I usually give 3/5 ;) if I have to FE.
But I can also understand ppl who give 1/5 to counteract the other 5/5 FE-guys. It really needs some rework.
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Why does vendor actually do FE in first place? I never understood this part of the system.
Why would a vendor FE the order without even shipping the item?!
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Coins are released from escrow once you press "finalize, there is no need to leave feedback at the same time. Why don't more users wait until they receive/don't receive the product?
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I would like to update on NBOME's sample I received. After realizing that you can't insufflate base, I put it in the freezer to preserve it. So after a day of "drying off" (evaporating the base / weakening the product I now realize) before freezing it, I consumed between .1 and .2g and am a feeling the great effects of clean phet (unlike much other stuff I have had from SR). NBOME's stuff is legit, just make sure you know what the difference between base and phosphate/suflate ROAs are!
To back up müslix, in the UK/AUS the term 'base' is also used as a slang word for speed. Realistically speaking you can assume there is no liquid amphetamine base in the sulphate salt form. That's just a common misconception.
quote from the bluelight amphetamine FAQ, http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/197113-Amphetamine-FAQ
"Sometimes amphetamines are sold as a pasty or waxy substance. There are a few reasons this can happen; a common misconception is that pasty or damp amphetamine samples are 'stronger' than dry powder. Damp of pasty speed can result from leaving it out in the open, especially in a moisture rich environment, because certain chemicals absorb water from the air (explained below). Moreover, if all of the freebase is not properly reacted when converting to salt, the oil will cling to the crystals causing them to stick together in waxy clumps. Neither of these things makes the end-product any more potent than the dry salt (although freebase is more potent by weight than the salt form)."
It was definitely oil mixed with a powder, and when I let it dry out the oil left. Is that what base would be? I understand it would not be pure base as that would be pure oil. Sorry I am no chemist here but am confused as to what you guys are saying -- no vendor here sells pure base but actually half sulfphate/phosphate and some leftover base clung to it? Why would insufflating not work but consuming orally work?
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I would like to update on NBOME's sample I received. After realizing that you can't insufflate base, I put it in the freezer to preserve it. So after a day of "drying off" (evaporating the base / weakening the product I now realize) before freezing it, I consumed between .1 and .2g and am a feeling the great effects of clean phet (unlike much other stuff I have had from SR). NBOME's stuff is legit, just make sure you know what the difference between base and phosphate/suflate ROAs are!
To back up müslix, in the UK/AUS the term 'base' is also used as a slang word for speed. Realistically speaking you can assume there is no liquid amphetamine base in the sulphate salt form. That's just a common misconception.
quote from the bluelight amphetamine FAQ, http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/197113-Amphetamine-FAQ
"Sometimes amphetamines are sold as a pasty or waxy substance. There are a few reasons this can happen; a common misconception is that pasty or damp amphetamine samples are 'stronger' than dry powder. Damp of pasty speed can result from leaving it out in the open, especially in a moisture rich environment, because certain chemicals absorb water from the air (explained below). Moreover, if all of the freebase is not properly reacted when converting to salt, the oil will cling to the crystals causing them to stick together in waxy clumps. Neither of these things makes the end-product any more potent than the dry salt (although freebase is more potent by weight than the salt form)."
It was definitely oil mixed with a powder, and when I let it dry out the oil left. Is that what base would be? I understand it would not be pure base as that would be pure oil. Sorry I am no chemist here but am confused as to what you guys are saying -- no vendor here sells pure base but actually half sulfphate/phosphate and some leftover base clung to it? Why would insufflating not work but consuming orally work?
Amphetamine freebase will not just "leave" or evaporate. It will react with carbon dioxide in the air to form the solid amphetamine carbonate. If the oil/liquid evaporated or "left" as you say then it can't be the freebase.. The paste that alot of these vendors sell is simply wet amphetamine sulphate(usually mixed with some kind of solvent and who knows what other adulterants). It can be insufflated by allowing it to dry and chopping it into a fine powder..
Thanks
CC
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Happy New BM-Batch Day everyone! :P
Amphetamine freebase will not just "leave" or evaporate. It will react with carbon dioxide in the air to form the solid amphetamine carbonate.
And how would that look like? If you were to keep it with contact to air at room temp. I also assumed it would evaporate somehow, but doing a quick search on it most sources indeed just use 'volatile at room temperature'.
Der Speed Doktor(82) is back?! I'm too rookie-ish in the online speed/scam-market to have bought from him. Anyone can give some insight on his product?!
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With the SpeedDoktor, it´s alwas some sort of a gambling game. I always received my order, also very fast(domestic). But 5 out of 10 orders its really good speed for a perfect price, the other 5 it´s complete bullshit which you will flush down the toilet. A friend of mine and i ordered on the same day, each one got a different product, as above described.
What´s up with BM, are his listings already gone or hasn´t he put it up until now, i´m kinda nervous.
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I've just placed an order with polq1234 for this "SPEEDWAY" gear. It was cheap enough and they didnt demand FE.
I'll update on how this goes, although i've got a mixed gut feeling about this one. I'll report back when and if it comes
NumNuts
Afaik that's not phet but an RC.
I just received mine, it definitely doesn´t look (consistence is very fluffy) or taste/smell like Speed. Where did you got the information that it is an RC and which one is it. What the hell did i just snort(5 minutes ago)?
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hello speed freaks..
I have now , 60 % pure stuff . :o
Read my terms plz..before u order . ;)
PD
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My review of mrfires new batch...same post like in his thread - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=30341.105
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Hey guys
This is my review about MrFire's 0,5g sample of his new uncut speed batch!!
First sorry for my bad english - I'm a German, right ;)
Packaging and Delivery-time:
I received the sample today (ordered on friday evening), delivery time was quick as always and packaging was super stealth.
I just can say that the packaging was much better in comparison to the first few orders i got from mrfire
(don't wanna say that the old packaging was bad)
Weight and Appearance:
The stuff weights between 0.6-0.7g, can't say it exactly because my scale just have an accuracy of 0.1.
This means around 30% overweight - okay it's just a sample but this is like he handle all his orders :).
It came in little bricks of completly white and dry powder.
Potency:
Started with a line of approximately 30-40mg, I'm a regular speed user with a middle-low tolerance (I'm not sure, had a 8day break behind me?!).
5minutes later i felt the rush, clean amphetamine buzz, without any sign of caffeine or other crap.
Nice euphoria, very awake and i'm very focused of what i'm doing. I never felt such a "strong" effect from such a low dosage.
I'm very impressed! I think, taking just a small dosage is the best way to say something about the potency of speed,
because just strong speed will give you a kick in those dosages.
Due to the effects and my tolerance i would say the purity is 75%+ (this is a very subjective assessment!!).
Snorted a second line of ~30mg a few minute ago, I think this will keep me up for the next few hours yeah ;).
Conclusion:
I'm very overwhelmed of your new batch mrfire!
Changed my plan to spend my bitcoins on bms stuff, now i'll wait for your new batch!!
Happy to see that BM isn't the only seller of high quality speed on the road.
I hope you will stay in business for a long time. This is the deal guys, make your own experience!
Edit: I would suggest you, be careful with this stuff! It's easy to overdose, prefer snorting two or three small lines than one big.
I think my dosage of ~60-70mg is maybe too much for people with no or low tolerance.
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Edit2: The tested batch isn't the same one he's selling atm.
Right now he's offering a first hand batch and the specified dosage of 90%+ seems correct
due to my estimation of the old (3:1 cutted) batch with 75%.
Seems like a dream come true :-)
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Regarding Der Speed Doktor, I tried his "white batch" back in may.
I washed it first with petroleum ether and later with acetone, I think the final yield was something like 50% of what I started out with. Even after washing, it clearly had some adulterants left in it. When mixed with water, the powder would form cotton-like crystals, which in my experience is indicative of microcrystalline cellulose and magnesium stearate (both popular excipients in vitamin supplements, caffeine pills, etc) being present. I should probably have done a water filtration too, but I was too lazy :). The purity was likely sub-50%, but I don't know by how much.
After snorting it I used to get a strange pain in the back of my throat that could last for hours, I don't know if it was due to the water-insoluble adulterants or some other reason though.
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With the SpeedDoktor, it´s alwas some sort of a gambling game. I always received my order, also very fast(domestic). But 5 out of 10 orders its really good speed for a perfect price, the other 5 it´s complete bullshit which you will flush down the toilet. A friend of mine and i ordered on the same day, each one got a different product, as above described.
Since it's been asked a couple of times now, this is a pretty good explanation of the term 'selective scam'. Thanks for the warning :)
What´s up with BM, are his listings already gone or hasn´t he put it up until now, i´m kinda nervous.
Patience I guess, although to be honest my patience is running low also. I had no decent speed since BM's last batch. I hope he waits a bit with the big (50+) listings, so we all get a shot ;)
I washed it first with petroleum ether and later with acetone, I think the final yield was something like 50% of what I started out with. Even after washing, it clearly had some adulterants left in it. When mixed with water, the powder would form cotton-like crystals, which in my experience is indicative of microcrystalline cellulose and magnesium stearate (both popular excipients in vitamin supplements, caffeine pills, etc) being present. I should probably have done a water filtration too, but I was too lazy :). The purity was likely sub-50%, but I don't know by how much.
Interesting :) FireUK's first batch also created cotton-like (thx for the term, really fits) crystals after a wash with distilled water. has to be sub-50 if you washed that much out, but I doubt that it was even close to 50. The avg. purity (given from test-centers) for CH is about 25%, DE a bit below that and NL a bit above. So this is about what one should expect from 'commercial' speed that seems to pop up right now. Usually that stuff is cut right in the lab, then goes to wholesale, where it might be cut again and (bestcase) then to the retailer/sr-vendor who probably cuts it again. At least that's what I have heard ;) Cleveland steamer posted some links that give more info about how this works, including the workshops for cooks and spreading of labs which surprisingly matched most of my own info. Hate the washing though, totally annoying, I pay good € for this and then I have to clean it first :( With 4MA there's another RC with increasing popularity as adulterant for speed.
hello speed freaks..
I have now , 60 % pure stuff . :o
Read my terms plz..before u order . ;)
Look it's my 2nd favorite vendor, lol :P It could really be the case, as mention above, that there is more commercial product available (that's actually >2% amp), so most of these vendors would sell similar stuff. I do have some trust issues regarding PD though, so I am not gonna take the plunge.
If I am correct and there is a new source it's really up to who is the most trustworthy vendor for that product, i.e. who's the one who doesn't add even more caffeine/RCs.
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I've just placed an order with polq1234 for this "SPEEDWAY" gear. It was cheap enough and they didnt demand FE.
I'll update on how this goes, although i've got a mixed gut feeling about this one. I'll report back when and if it comes
NumNuts
Afaik that's not phet but an RC.
I just received mine, it definitely doesn´t look (consistence is very fluffy) or taste/smell like Speed. Where did you got the information that it is an RC and which one is it. What the hell did i just snort(5 minutes ago)?
here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.msg395871;topicseen#msg395871
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What an asshole. Just tried 80mg, and now my pulse is near 130 my temperature at about 39 Degrees, and im feeling real bad. He really should get banned immediately. Thanks for your info.
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Hi, the listings are still not up, we had a one day delay. They'll be up tomorrow, tuesday 14 at 20:00 (european hour).
You should be patient because there will be enough for 2 weeks or so. Take it easy.
Greetings
BM
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@fonziegrinder
wtf?! doesn't sound good. Please be so kind and inform other users by writing a feedback to his product...
And request him to declare his product correctly!
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I can´t write no feedback, as i luckily haven´t finalized until now. I wrote the seller as well as the SRSupport about this problem. It´s not about the money, it´s because it´s fucking dangerous. I won´t imagine what could happen if someone is dropping a 400 mg bomb or something like that, because he thinks it´s average speed...
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I guess he changed the product description? At least he is not pretending to sell amph right now.
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The last order I got was one of the most creative I've seen so far on SR. I don't think they lost your address, but they deleted it already. So if you are lucky you might receive 2 letters. :)
Yeah looking back I think that's what may of happened there. In fact, I'd tried clearing things up by sending her another message explaining things, yet that didn't seem to work either. She proceeded to just offer another re-send ;D so I think I'll just leave it for now until I receive what's likely already been sent haha
Business must be going well right now I guess. Default response to every PM regardless of content: GIVE ME ADDRESS I SEND METH!!
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Alright guys just a quick update ..
Went to meet my supplier today and instead of just selling me the stuff I wanted he told me that he is going to take it easy for a while due to things going on in his life - told me he'd be willing to introduce me to the guys he gets all his stuff from for a share of my profits. Agreed to that and now I'm straight at the source - yes I'm getting the stuff first hand , right where it's being produced. My (ex) supplier also told me that even the stuff he was selling as 'uncut' (the stuff that I did get a small amount like two weeks back) was still cut a little with lactose (3:1) but since almost nobody gets his hands on pure stuff anyway nobody would doubt it's "pure"... well to make a long story short I now have access to a source that produces amphetamine of the highest quality. Needless to say I did buy some of it (and no I'm pretty much broke again :-\ ). They can also supply me with pure MDMA crystals but unfortunately they've already used up the whole last batch to press some pills so instead of just waiting for another week I'll decided to buy some pills as well - will still get some MDMA crystals but probably not before the pills are gone or at least I've got some cash again in a couple of weeks.
They also offered me LSD sheets .. blotters of 150mcg clean LSD each. Would have had to buy at least a 1000 blotters though and although the price was amazing I just did not have any cash for that left but I'll come back for sure .. maybe I'll get enough together by the weekend.
That was just a quick update .. I'm just letting the speed dry right now and won't be back in the UK before tmw evening so I won't be dispatching any orders till then (thought I might as well pay my mate in Germany a little visit ;) )
I already did put up some new listings and yes the price of the speed did go up but it's actually still cheaper if you just think of it in terms of actual amphetamine and not just product. I am sure everyone will be amazed by the quality of this stuff - it's not just at least 3 times stronger than my last batch but also quite a fair bit stronger than the last amphetamine samples I did send out - I'm pretty sure some guys will still ignore my warnings and just IV 200mg rightaway or drop a 400mg bomb of it .. well good luck with that.
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Sounds nice and about $7 cheaper compared to BM.
Have you tested it yourself MrFireUK?
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'course I have - how the hell would I still be awake now after a few fucking sleepless nights (not due to the speed , just had too much stuff to do .. the speed just helps me now , although I would not mind getting some sleep now .. but soon will) ;) 8)
Best I've ever had!
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I'm just letting the speed dry right now and won't be back in the UK before tmw evening so I won't be dispatching any orders till then
Does this mean there are UK->UK listings on the way, or have I missed them already? I don't mind ordering from Germany if I have to, but obviously its better to avoid customs if I can.
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Why are vendors selling 90% speed while 90% purity doesn't even exist.. :(
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I have gathered objective data for two vendors that have sent product.
First to receive: NBOME "HIGH QUALITY UK AMPHETAMINE BASE PASTE 1G" sent 1 gram, thank you!
Shipping: mail took forever, not vendor's fault and they were very responsive.
Packaging 5/5 perfect for that amount.
Product: Same previously noted menthol smell and slight yellow appearance. Oily consistency that after of leaving the bag open for an hour 80% had dried to a soft, sticky powder.
Reagent Testing: 1)Marquis: had several clumps of powder that required mixing/chopping (Stayed clumped for at least a minute) with reagent drop that did ultimately produce a very solid thick orange color. My impression phetamine like substance.
2)Simons: clumps immediately dissolved. No color reaction. My impression amphetamine.
Second to receive: arigolo "Speed pills ~ The best canadian quality ~ excel press"
Shipping: vendor cautious about sending too many to the US, so slow receiving time. Although they kept me informed the whole time and even offered express shipping.
Packaging: 4.5/5. Don't want to get into details. More than enough for Ca to US
Product: Nice press with good detail on the excel logo. Pressed semi-hard.
Reagent Testing: 1)Marquis: Shavings had a 50/50 dispersion of bright orange color, dissolved completely. My impression phetamine like substance.
2)Simons: Immediately dissolved with a strong cobalt blue, very thick solid color with a few shavings. My impression Methamphetamine
I used prescription Lisdexamfetamine for control, which produced results typical of amphetamine.
Subjective review will be added once completed.
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Happy New BM-Batch Day 2.0 everyone!! 8)
My (ex) supplier also told me that even the stuff he was selling as 'uncut' (the stuff that I did get a small amount like two weeks back) was still cut a little with lactose (3:1) but since almost nobody gets his hands on pure stuff anyway nobody would doubt it's "pure"... well to make a long story short I now have access to a source that produces amphetamine of the highest quality. Needless to say I did buy some of it (and no I'm pretty much broke again :-\ ).
Well it's like the TV-Show House in this business: everyone lies :P Of course there are some exceptions and hopefully we found a couple of them here. I'll take the plunge and order a small sample in the evening. The steady rise of BTC should have earned me enough money by now. Oh and great timing btw ;)
They also offered me LSD sheets .. blotters of 150mcg clean LSD each. Would have had to buy at least a 1000 blotters though and although the price was amazing I just did not have any cash for that left but I'll come back for sure .. maybe I'll get enough together by the weekend.
Can you find out what crystal was used? 1000 blotters are 'only' two sheets if I am not mistaken, you should be able to sell it rather quickly if it is good. LSD also has (or had, still trying to find out) a somewhat weird dynamic to it: the best LSD was also the cheapest I ever had and the worst the most expensive.
The LSD market on here is about as shitty (if not worse) as the speed market :) There seems to be one honest/legit vendor here from what I can tell, some competition would be great ;D It's really hard to estimate the real demand of anything on here, due to complete lack of transparency.
Why are vendors selling 90% speed while 90% purity doesn't even exist.. :(
Why shouldn't it? define speed and define purity. I'd guess you are referring to the difference in base and salt 'purity', but then again your statement is way too fuzzy.
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I wrote the seller as well as the SRSupport about this problem. It´s not about the money, it´s because it´s fucking dangerous. I won´t imagine what could happen if someone is dropping a 400 mg bomb or something like that, because he thinks it´s average speed...
this is very likely the same stuff that AC is selling. Be careful guys and do not(!!) mix it with other drugs.
SR Support doesn't give a shit, I tried with the same complaints and a very detailed report and they didn't care much. Sadly it's all about the money, yo.
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Road testing CapeCrusader amp. Genius packaging..Very safe !
07.30am after a hard nights work
Cut out a couple of lines..about 0.2 to play safe..Satisfying sting, a small tear and a familiar trickle in my throat Echhhh !!
07.35whoa!! pretty much an instant hit.
07.40 Fuck..Haven't come up this quick on so little!!!. Seriously tweaking, Heart rate is up to 110. Really nice euphoric buzz.
This is very very nice Amp.Pure,uncut as far as i can tell..The real deal. Haven't tried BM yet but this is the best I've had for a long time..normally get this kind of hit from a .5 bomb. !0/10 Handle with care. will update later...
just to clarify dosage was just under 1/4gm cut into 2 lines and i have quite a high tolerance.
09.00 levelled out after initial rush.Heart rate is down to 95 Very smooth, no edginess with a strong physical buzz.Tweaking like fuck .
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Road testing CapeCrusader amp. Genius packaging..Very safe !
07.30am after a hard nights work
Cut out a couple of lines..about 0.2 to play safe..Satisfying sting, a small tear and a familiar trickle in my throat Echhhh !!
07.35whoa!! pretty much an instant hit.
07.40 Fuck..Haven't come up this quick on so little!!!. Seriously tweaking, Heart rate is up to 110. Really nice euphoric buzz.
This is very very nice Amp.Pure,uncut as far as i can tell..The real deal. Haven't tried BM yet but this is the best I've had for a long time..normally get this kind of hit from a .5 bomb. !0/10 Handle with care. will update later...
I had to read this twice, but you are saying you took about 200mg? Could you please make a statement about your tolerance?
Please guys, if you have to mention dosages put them into context, it's not only useless but could potentially be dangerous for completely new users.
That being said: sounds great, can't wait til mine gets here 8)
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Road testing CapeCrusader amp. Genius packaging..Very safe !
07.30am after a hard nights work
Cut out a couple of lines..about 0.2 to play safe..Satisfying sting, a small tear and a familiar trickle in my throat Echhhh !!
07.35whoa!! pretty much an instant hit.
07.40 Fuck..Haven't come up this quick on so little!!!. Seriously tweaking, Heart rate is up to 110. Really nice euphoric buzz.
This is very very nice Amp.Pure,uncut as far as i can tell..The real deal. Haven't tried BM yet but this is the best I've had for a long time..normally get this kind of hit from a .5 bomb. !0/10 Handle with care. will update later...
I had to read this twice, but you are saying you took about 200mg? Could you please make a statement about your tolerance?
Please guys, if you have to mention dosages put them into context, it's not only useless but could potentially be dangerous for completely new users.
That being said: sounds great, can't wait til mine gets here 8)
Lol yeah i must agree with muslix. you kinda overdid it there with 200mg.. If you check my feedback on my vendor page you will see that another order just arrived. This customer only took 30 mg to get a good buzz. Remember this is pure stuff.. so please be careful guys..
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Road testing CapeCrusader amp. Genius packaging..Very safe !
07.30am after a hard nights work
Cut out a couple of lines..about 0.2 to play safe..Satisfying sting, a small tear and a familiar trickle in my throat Echhhh !!
07.35whoa!! pretty much an instant hit.
07.40 Fuck..Haven't come up this quick on so little!!!. Seriously tweaking, Heart rate is up to 110. Really nice euphoric buzz.
This is very very nice Amp.Pure,uncut as far as i can tell..The real deal. Haven't tried BM yet but this is the best I've had for a long time..normally get this kind of hit from a .5 bomb. !0/10 Handle with care. will update later...
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I had to read this twice, but you are saying you took about 200mg? Could you please make a statement about your tolerance?
Please guys, if you have to mention dosages put them into context, it's not only useless but could potentially be dangerous for completely new users.
That being said: sounds great, can't wait til mine gets here 8)
Lol yeah i must agree with muslix. you kinda overdid it there with 200mg.. If you check my feedback on my vendor page you will see that another order just arrived. This customer only took 30 mg to get a good buzz. Remember this is pure stuff.. so please be careful guys..
] .2 Just under 1/4grm.And yes I do have a pretty high tolerance..been a speed lover for 25+ yrs,
.normally do .5 but that is the normal 'base' around in Uk.but haven't had any type of stimulant for the last 7 days...Still buzzing nicely by the way. My lady just confiscated the rest till she can try some Damn...
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nothing arrived again, not pleased: http://imgur.com/tXVIH
at least I got my weed ;D
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Road testing CapeCrusader amp. Genius packaging..Very safe !
07.30am after a hard nights work
Cut out a couple of lines..about 0.2 to play safe..Satisfying sting, a small tear and a familiar trickle in my throat Echhhh !!
07.35whoa!! pretty much an instant hit.
07.40 Fuck..Haven't come up this quick on so little!!!. Seriously tweaking, Heart rate is up to 110. Really nice euphoric buzz.
This is very very nice Amp.Pure,uncut as far as i can tell..The real deal. Haven't tried BM yet but this is the best I've had for a long time..normally get this kind of hit from a .5 bomb. !0/10 Handle with care. will update later...
just to clarify dosage was just under 1/4gm cut into 2 lines and i have quite a high tolerance.
09.00 levelled out after initial rush.Heart rate is down to 95 Very smooth, no edginess with a strong physical buzz.Tweaking like fuck .
10.00 Definately levelled out now but still buzzing nicely...heart rate still 95. Would normally consider another small bump if my lady hadn't stashed it! but with this amp NOT as much as the first 2 lines LOL...
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nothing arrived again, not pleased: http://imgur.com/tXVIH
at least I got my weed ;D
Opposite problem here..i got the speed but run out of weed....
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Got my order from dmtdoodeelsd and now i want my money back :(
It was nicely packaged but it gave no effect at all. Someone posted on feedback that the speed was lab tested - 5% amph 44% caffeine. That does not surprise me at all.
Dried over night in room temperature, next day i snorted 2 grams within a hour feeling nothing but nasal pain. The funny thing is that i am a first time user.
Should have read the forums first before choosing vendor.
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Got my order from dmtdoodeelsd and now i want my money back :(
It was nicely packaged but it gave no effect at all. Someone posted on feedback that the speed was lab tested - 5% amph 44% caffeine. That does not surprise me at all.
Dried over night in room temperature, next day i snorted 2 grams within a hour feeling nothing but nasal pain. The funny thing is that i am a first time user.
Should have read the forums first before choosing vendor.
holy shit, you should at least feel like shit from the amount of caffeine in it - 2g nasally is really crazy..
I still have 1,25/3g of BM's gear left after 4 weeks and I took it like every second day^^
btw haven't touched GE's stuff a single time since I got BM's ;D
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Got my order from dmtdoodeelsd and now i want my money back :(
It was nicely packaged but it gave no effect at all. Someone posted on feedback that the speed was lab tested - 5% amph 44% caffeine. That does not surprise me at all.
Dried over night in room temperature, next day i snorted 2 grams within a hour feeling nothing but nasal pain. The funny thing is that i am a first time user.
Should have read the forums first before choosing vendor.
holy shit, you should at least feel like shit from the amount of caffeine in it - 2g nasally is really crazy..
I still have 1,25/3g of BM's gear left after 4 weeks and I took it like every second day^^
btw haven't touched GE's stuff a single time since I got BM's ;D
actually no, even that did not work haha
Edit: Feel a littlr bit buzzed after 4 grams, but nothing more.
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OLDAnsterdam, very good product without cutting, highly recommended seller. in 4 days I came from Holland to Spain ... :) :) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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very good seller ... good productol, high quality. fast shipping 4 days to Spain ... thanks and keep it up oldamsterdan :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Road testing CapeCrusader amp. Genius packaging..Very safe !
07.30am after a hard nights work
Cut out a couple of lines..about 0.2 to play safe..Satisfying sting, a small tear and a familiar trickle in my throat Echhhh !!
07.35whoa!! pretty much an instant hit.
07.40 Fuck..Haven't come up this quick on so little!!!. Seriously tweaking, Heart rate is up to 110. Really nice euphoric buzz.
This is very very nice Amp.Pure,uncut as far as i can tell..The real deal. Haven't tried BM yet but this is the best I've had for a long time..normally get this kind of hit from a .5 bomb. !0/10 Handle with care. will update later...
just to clarify dosage was just under 1/4gm cut into 2 lines and i have quite a high tolerance.
09.00 levelled out after initial rush.Heart rate is down to 95 Very smooth, no edginess with a strong physical buzz.Tweaking like fuck .
10.00 Definately levelled out now but still buzzing nicely...heart rate still 95. Would normally consider another small bump if my lady hadn't stashed it! but with this amp NOT as much as the first 2 lines LOL...
4pm..Now I'm truly impressed! almost 9 hrs since i sampled a couple of lines. levelled out and then stayed there all day.
Heart rate still around 95-100.Still buzzing and feeling great. Glad i didn't top up this morning.. Definitely would have been a line too far. would have been up all night into tomorrow! .Stunned by the quality. Been rushing all day and had to stop myself talking bollocks to people thinking i was being interesting more than once.
No sign of coming down yet. I think i may have get some more of this. Be very careful if you're new to amp this is primo..Ok I'll shut up now .
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OldAmsterdam stuff gave me 120bpm while seated... attributed to caffeine. I dont get that kinda heartrate unless caffeine is involved. otherwise around 100. It is definitely NOT 72% purity, maybe half that at most and the caffeine gave me much jitters n shit. Its not a bunk product but I cant say I would buy it again with the caffeine in it. Also when I dried the "1 gram" supposed it turned into about 600mg which didnt last very long
Anyone who tried MrFireuk sample, can you give me oral dosage for recreational effects for low to no tolerance thanks.
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OldAmsterdam stuff gave me 120bpm while seated... attributed to caffeine. I dont get that kinda heartrate unless caffeine is involved. otherwise around 100. It is definitely NOT 72% purity, maybe half that at most and the caffeine gave me much jitters n shit. Its not a bunk product but I cant say I would buy it again with the caffeine in it. Also when I dried the "1 gram" supposed it turned into about 600mg which didnt last very long
Anyone who tried MrFireuk sample, can you give me oral dosage for recreational effects for low to no tolerance thanks.
I don't think OldAmsterdam's listings turn a lot of heads, fortunately.
Which mrFireUk's amph [sample] you've had in mind?... the new one, currently being offered?
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BoyMaster mentioned the listings should be "ON" by tonight, its already 23:35 GMT+1 and no pie :-/ Weren't they supposed to "appear" by 20:00? :) or maybe I just missed something? he he
I have an itchy finger on a couple of tens of bitcoins...surely want to try the new amph. from mrFireUK [new munchies], the old ones I've got a couple of days back didn't quite impress all that much. More like - were "OK":
oral ~ 100mg gave a slight buzz but I smelled like a chem lab afterwards, oh well, sure as hell hope the new is much more potent
nasal ~ 60mg gave me the same as oral above, but had to re-dose more often to maintain the focus, etc. [without the 'chem lab' body-smell this time]
The OLD stock he was offering was a good stuff as it was, but there's a ton of room for improvement.
So yea, wanna grab some Fire's new batch + a lot of BM's new stock...if these two get a QC check and turn out to be GOOOOD, and if AT least these two guys/groups can maintain a foothold here without various glitches for a long time... then hell fuck yeah im done for [speed heaven for months] :D and the other amph vendors can kiss their ass good bye
interesting times!
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OldAmsterdam stuff gave me 120bpm while seated... attributed to caffeine. I dont get that kinda heartrate unless caffeine is involved. otherwise around 100. It is definitely NOT 72% purity, maybe half that at most and the caffeine gave me much jitters n shit. Its not a bunk product but I cant say I would buy it again with the caffeine in it. Also when I dried the "1 gram" supposed it turned into about 600mg which didnt last very long
Anyone who tried MrFireuk sample, can you give me oral dosage for recreational effects for low to no tolerance thanks.
I don't think OldAmsterdam's listings turn a lot of heads, fortunately.
Which mrFireUk's amph [sample] you've had in mind?... the new one, currently being offered?
Off-top:
BoyMaster mentioned the listings should be "ON" by tonight, its already 23:35 GMT+1 and no pie :-/ Weren't they supposed to "appear" by 20:00? :) or maybe I just missed something? he he
I have an itchy finger on a couple of tens of bitcoins...surely want to try the new amph. from mrFireUK [new munchies], the old ones I've got a couple of days back didn't quite impress all that much. More like - were "OK":
oral ~ 100mg gave a slight buzz but I smelled like a chem lab afterwards, oh well, sure as hell hope the new is much more potent
nasal ~ 60mg gave me the same as oral above, but had to re-dose more often to maintain the focus, etc. [without the 'chem lab' body-smell this time]
The OLD stock he was offering was a good stuff as it was, but there's a ton of room for improvement.
So yea, wanna grab some Fire's new batch + a lot of BM's new stock...if these two get a QC check and turn out to be GOOOOD, and if AT least these two guys/groups can maintain a foothold here without various glitches for a long time... then hell fuck yeah im done for [speed heaven for months] :D and the other amph vendors can kiss their ass good bye
interesting times!
No disrespect to any of you but I am a long term user of speed and have tried bashed down speed to really high grade stuff and to be honest having recently sampled OldAmsterdam's stuff I can assure you that his speed is fire (I haven't had speed like this in a long time). I've been waiting for a good vendor of speed to arise on SR some sellers sell 'OK' speed but OldAmsterdam certainly does come to the top of the list in my opinion on this. In my opinion this seller is going to go far and best of luck to him because he deserves it.. the sample he sent was outstanding and well packaged so I have no doubts that he will rise to the top 10% of sellers quickly.. I will also try his MDMA soon and hopefully that quality will also have the same quality as the speed.
I've recently placed a 20 gram order with him and I couldn't ask for better communication, he's been very prompt with replies and has dealt with me in an extremely professional manor. Can't wait for this order to land on my doormat. I recommend everyone who is seeking the pure speed product to shop with OldAmsterdam my experience with him so far really is 100/100.
Peace
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OldAmsterdam stuff gave me 120bpm while seated... attributed to caffeine. I dont get that kinda heartrate unless caffeine is involved. otherwise around 100. It is definitely NOT 72% purity, maybe half that at most and the caffeine gave me much jitters n shit. Its not a bunk product but I cant say I would buy it again with the caffeine in it. Also when I dried the "1 gram" supposed it turned into about 600mg which didnt last very long
Anyone who tried MrFireuk sample, can you give me oral dosage for recreational effects for low to no tolerance thanks.
I don't think OldAmsterdam's listings turn a lot of heads, fortunately.
Which mrFireUk's amph [sample] you've had in mind?... the new one, currently being offered?
Off-top:
BoyMaster mentioned the listings should be "ON" by tonight, its already 23:35 GMT+1 and no pie :-/ Weren't they supposed to "appear" by 20:00? :) or maybe I just missed something? he he
I have an itchy finger on a couple of tens of bitcoins...surely want to try the new amph. from mrFireUK [new munchies], the old ones I've got a couple of days back didn't quite impress all that much. More like - were "OK":
oral ~ 100mg gave a slight buzz but I smelled like a chem lab afterwards, oh well, sure as hell hope the new is much more potent
nasal ~ 60mg gave me the same as oral above, but had to re-dose more often to maintain the focus, etc. [without the 'chem lab' body-smell this time]
The OLD stock he was offering was a good stuff as it was, but there's a ton of room for improvement.
So yea, wanna grab some Fire's new batch + a lot of BM's new stock...if these two get a QC check and turn out to be GOOOOD, and if AT least these two guys/groups can maintain a foothold here without various glitches for a long time... then hell fuck yeah im done for [speed heaven for months] :D and the other amph vendors can kiss their ass good bye
interesting times!
No disrespect to any of you but I am a long term user of speed and have tried bashed down speed to really high grade stuff and to be honest having recently sampled OldAmsterdam's stuff I can assure you that his speed is fire (I haven't had speed like this in a long time). I've been waiting for a good vendor of speed to arise on SR some sellers sell 'OK' speed but OldAmsterdam certainly does come to the top of the list in my opinion on this. In my opinion this seller is going to go far and best of luck to him because he deserves it.. the sample he sent was outstanding and well packaged so I have no doubts that he will rise to the top 10% of sellers quickly.. I will also try his MDMA soon and hopefully that quality will also have the same quality as the speed.
I've recently placed a 20 gram order with him and I couldn't ask for better communication, he's been very prompt with replies and has dealt with me in an extremely professional manor. Can't wait for this order to land on my doormat. I recommend everyone who is seeking the pure speed product to shop with OldAmsterdam my experience with him so far really is 100/100.
Peace
... have you ever used boymaster or mrfireuk new stuff?
do you honestly think this is 72% purity? respectufully, then you don't now jack shit. do you really enjoy speed with caffeine in it?
boymaster speed did at 50mg jitterfree what oldamsterdam did at shorter duration with huge jitter/more anxiety worse crash at twice the dose.. and boymaster old stuff was liisted 70%. So for you to call it "fire" I have no idea. Maybe you're used purely to street speed that is 10-20% purity and mixed with a ton of caffeine.
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Got my order from dmtdoodeelsd and now i want my money back :(
It was nicely packaged but it gave no effect at all. Someone posted on feedback that the speed was lab tested - 5% amph 44% caffeine. That does not surprise me at all.
Dried over night in room temperature, next day i snorted 2 grams within a hour feeling nothing but nasal pain. The funny thing is that i am a first time user.
Should have read the forums first before choosing vendor.
holy shit, you should at least feel like shit from the amount of caffeine in it - 2g nasally is really crazy..
I still have 1,25/3g of BM's gear left after 4 weeks and I took it like every second day^^
btw haven't touched GE's stuff a single time since I got BM's ;D
actually no, even that did not work haha
Edit: Feel a littlr bit buzzed after 4 grams, but nothing more.
OK thanks , it is what it is... i personally challenge anyone to bomb .2g for lunch and fall asleep by nighttime - this ain't the brain's people - it is exactly as listed !!! It's been tested - i challenge the customer "who is obviously not a dutch-based jealous vendor!!) to prove the allegation of 5% amphet and 44% caffeine!!!!!!!
try it and see - if you pm and mention the word 'squirrel', for the first 10 people i'll send u a free sample - like i say ; "i personally challenge anyone to bomb .2g for lunch and fall asleep by nighttime!!"
p.s. please if you are reading this, and asking for a free sample then make sure you are at least to pay for postage!!!!!!
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aaww, cum on guys!
A second time good speed this summer can't be too much to ask. I won't be having this much free time forever. end of summer is approaching rapidly, no lsd, no speed :'( :'( :'(
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Road testing CapeCrusader amp. Genius packaging..Very safe !
07.30am after a hard nights work
Cut out a couple of lines..about 0.2 to play safe..Satisfying sting, a small tear and a familiar trickle in my throat Echhhh !!
07.35whoa!! pretty much an instant hit.
07.40 Fuck..Haven't come up this quick on so little!!!. Seriously tweaking, Heart rate is up to 110. Really nice euphoric buzz.
This is very very nice Amp.Pure,uncut as far as i can tell..The real deal. Haven't tried BM yet but this is the best I've had for a long time..normally get this kind of hit from a .5 bomb. !0/10 Handle with care. will update later...
just to clarify dosage was just under 1/4gm cut into 2 lines and i have quite a high tolerance.
09.00 levelled out after initial rush.Heart rate is down to 95 Very smooth, no edginess with a strong physical buzz.Tweaking like fuck .
10.00 Definately levelled out now but still buzzing nicely...heart rate still 95. Would normally consider another small bump if my lady hadn't stashed it! but with this amp NOT as much as the first 2 lines LOL...
4pm..Now I'm truly impressed! almost 9 hrs since i sampled a couple of lines. levelled out and then stayed there all day.
Heart rate still around 95-100.Still buzzing and feeling great. Glad i didn't top up this morning.. Definitely would have been a line too far. would have been up all night into tomorrow! .Stunned by the quality. Been rushing all day and had to stop myself talking bollocks to people thinking i was being interesting more than once.
No sign of coming down yet. I think i may have get some more of this. Be very careful if you're new to amp this is primo..Ok I'll shut up now .
Final word..9am today. Had to eventually resort to a couple of 10mg valium at 3am this morning to have a chance of sleep, which worked for about 4hrs.
No come-down apart from lack of sleep..and can still feel a little Amp tickle hanging on !!
Over 20hrs of amp filled fun on under 1/4 gram, Thanks CC .Love it!
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Listings are up!
Happy shopping ;)
Greets
BM
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Listings are up!
Happy shopping ;)
Greets
BM
Awesome timing! :)
But they are not 'public' or 'active' yet.
I can only see them on your vendor page under 'Featured listings'. But cannot access them:
edit: works! wooohoooo ;D
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Boom this is great news lol, just returned from vacation and now this :D
I was gonna ask how speed sales/vendors have been developing last 2 weeks, but I guess there is no need for that anymore 8)
But wow... those prices, come on BM :( That's mean.. I know it's good shit (we all do) but it's a bit too high for my likings :-\
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Got my order from dmtdoodeelsd and now i want my money back :(
It was nicely packaged but it gave no effect at all. Someone posted on feedback that the speed was lab tested - 5% amph 44% caffeine. That does not surprise me at all.
Dried over night in room temperature, next day i snorted 2 grams within a hour feeling nothing but nasal pain. The funny thing is that i am a first time user.
Should have read the forums first before choosing vendor.
holy shit, you should at least feel like shit from the amount of caffeine in it - 2g nasally is really crazy..
I still have 1,25/3g of BM's gear left after 4 weeks and I took it like every second day^^
btw haven't touched GE's stuff a single time since I got BM's ;D
actually no, even that did not work haha
Edit: Feel a littlr bit buzzed after 4 grams, but nothing more.
OK thanks , it is what it is... i personally challenge anyone to bomb .2g for lunch and fall asleep by nighttime - this ain't the brain's people - it is exactly as listed !!! It's been tested - i challenge the customer "who is obviously not a dutch-based jealous vendor!!) to prove the allegation of 5% amphet and 44% caffeine!!!!!!!
try it and see - if you pm and mention the word 'squirrel', for the first 10 people i'll send u a free sample - like i say ; "i personally challenge anyone to bomb .2g for lunch and fall asleep by nighttime!!"
p.s. please if you are reading this, and asking for a free sample then make sure you are at least to pay for postage!!!!!!
You already came in here, offering from samples talking your product up and didn't send a single sample to anyone. Then you acted like a dickhead.
If it's 5% amphet and 44% caffeine then yes, peopel WILL stay up all night because caffeine is a stimulant that makes it hard to fucking sleep you................... I could post the entire transcript of our PM's here if everyone wants to see how unreliable you are. I am very INCLINED to blieve that shit is packed with caffeine. I'm not touching shit that's cut with caffeine.
Anyone who cuts amph with caffeine can go suck a fuck.
Why would anyone order from you now, you have admitted yourself SR isn't that important to you and you have work, family bla bla to take care of.
Right now BM is out, MrfireUK stuff is out, CapeCrusader got good gear. you're out.
Anyone who would order from your is thick, when they can get 90-96% purity.
Saynora.
Also I received mrfireuk sample in just a few days from germany, qucik shipping.
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But wow... those prices, come on BM :( That's mean.. I know it's good shit (we all do) but it's a bit too high for my likings :-\
You realize these are uncut listings?
I have to slightly agree though, wasn't the first mentioned pricing at like 180€/10g, now it's at 200€ already.
Still ordered. patience running on extremely low already. Let's hope it's really worth it.
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Ah right I missed that part, still.. 20€/gram that's quite high.
BM, is from this batch on the unlimited supply thingy you were talking about earlier? So I have some time to scrape some money together :P Vacation hit my bank account pretty hard
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I was gonna ask how speed sales/vendors have been developing last 2 weeks, but I guess there is no need for that anymore 8)
But there has been quite some action, let me summarize:
We have two new entries: CapeCrusader and OldAmsterdam. And a re-entry: Der Speed Doktor.
A lot of new speed listings have been popping up last few days claiming to sell speed made from BMK, so this sounds like some commercial source(s) are at work here.
Can be bought at: Speed Doktor, After Hour, OldAmsterdam, PremiumDouche. OldAmsterdam being our new guy who still hasn't managed to get a PGP key, which for me is a total turn-off. Imagine how secure the rest of his setup must be :-X
FireUK now offers a new new listing, which is more pure than the just new listing which was just pure. How pure it really is has yet to be proven, i.e. tested by myself or by a lab (the only two sources I fully trust ;)). Gonna sample asap.
CapeCrusader being our second new guy, also selling pure stuff, only small amounts so far. Got a sample coming but it's from ZA and that's far far away. Been semi-proven to be good by a report here.
And BM is back after delaying a bit. Prices are kinda high-ish, but then again it's pure. Oh and BTC is currently sky-rocketing, which makes this somewhat worse.
I still got no decent speed yet, no LSD either, but loads of weed :P So you see, lots of action going on, but nothing really happened ;) (as in I finally got some speed)
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Road testing CapeCrusader amp. Genius packaging..Very safe !
07.30am after a hard nights work
Cut out a couple of lines..about 0.2 to play safe..Satisfying sting, a small tear and a familiar trickle in my throat Echhhh !!
07.35whoa!! pretty much an instant hit.
07.40 Fuck..Haven't come up this quick on so little!!!. Seriously tweaking, Heart rate is up to 110. Really nice euphoric buzz.
This is very very nice Amp.Pure,uncut as far as i can tell..The real deal. Haven't tried BM yet but this is the best I've had for a long time..normally get this kind of hit from a .5 bomb. !0/10 Handle with care. will update later...
just to clarify dosage was just under 1/4gm cut into 2 lines and i have quite a high tolerance.
09.00 levelled out after initial rush.Heart rate is down to 95 Very smooth, no edginess with a strong physical buzz.Tweaking like fuck .
10.00 Definately levelled out now but still buzzing nicely...heart rate still 95. Would normally consider another small bump if my lady hadn't stashed it! but with this amp NOT as much as the first 2 lines LOL...
4pm..Now I'm truly impressed! almost 9 hrs since i sampled a couple of lines. levelled out and then stayed there all day.
Heart rate still around 95-100.Still buzzing and feeling great. Glad i didn't top up this morning.. Definitely would have been a line too far. would have been up all night into tomorrow! .Stunned by the quality. Been rushing all day and had to stop myself talking bollocks to people thinking i was being interesting more than once.
No sign of coming down yet. I think i may have get some more of this. Be very careful if you're new to amp this is primo..Ok I'll shut up now .
Final word..9am today. Had to eventually resort to a couple of 10mg valium at 3am this morning to have a chance of sleep, which worked for about 4hrs.
No come-down apart from lack of sleep..and can still feel a little Amp tickle hanging on !!
Over 20hrs of amp filled fun on under 1/4 gram, Thanks CC .Love it!
Lol thanks for the great review mate.. It's somehow being overlooked though thanks to the re emergence of boymaster.. But i will take a back seat.. for now.. ;)
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Just received a gram of amphetamine sulfate from Cape Crusader. Before I begin this review, I should note that I am an American who has had little experience with amphetamine: I did my share of "bathtub crank" (racemic methamphetamine) as an apprentice Wizard, and have tinkered a bit with some RC stimulants, but have only taken oral amphetamines a couple times and still haven't snorted the stuff. So I'm not a stimulant expert, just a psychonaut who has a lot of things to get done.
Cape Crusader's package arrived from South Africa within 9 days, which is about the standard for packages from the region. It was well-packaged and more than adequately discreet. The powder was rather firmly caked, but crumbled quickly enough on handling. For my opening event I decided to go with 40mg plugged. Said dosage was weighed out, dissolved in approximately 2ml of water and squirted up the ol' Cadbury Trail approximately 45 minutes ago. I figured that if this was pure amphetamine sulfate that would be about 20mg of dexedrine - a nice but not outrageous dosage.
(Note to the haters: rectal use of drugs doesn't make you gay, having homosexual sex makes you gay. While the Grand Wizard's orientation is none of your business, I've got no problems with using a method which helps me bypass the nausea of oral, the sinus pain of insufflation, and the various hazards of needles while giving me bioavailability and speed of onset comparable to an IM shot sans abscess risk).
Within a few minutes after turning the Cadbury Trail into the Colon Speedway, I was noticing a definite glow. 15 minutes afterwards I noted the slightly elevated heart rate and mild headache which I always get with stims. But I also noticed the distinct lack of jitteryness, racing heart and sweats which I get with most RCs. This is crystalline clear stimulation. It could definitely be recreational in the right setting but it can also be useful for getting things accomplished. 40mg was, if anything, more than I needed: I suspect that I'll be taking Xanax around midnight to get to sleep and will probably do about 20mg next time.
Overall, I give the Cape Crusader's amphetamine the highest marks. It appears to be clean, pure and energizing - just what I look for in a stimulant. He delivered exactly what he promised in a reasonable time frame. This one is going to last me a while, but I hope Cape Crusader sticks around: I definitely want to keep more of this stuff around the house. As Borat would say, "Very nice. I like."
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aaww, cum on guys!
A second time good speed this summer can't be too much to ask. I won't be having this much free time forever. end of summer is approaching rapidly, no lsd, no speed :'( :'( :'(
Albion has FIRE lsd up right now (although only 110ug, it is legit)
Good price, I'd grab it now before it is gone.
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I bought a sample from OldAmsterdam. I am happy with the quality, packaging and delivery time.
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I bought a sample from OldAmsterdam. I am happy with the quality, packaging and delivery time.
I'd be happy too if I were a new user with just one post.
I don't know. MrFireUK or BM?
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I can recommend Mr Fire...I received a gram and was very happy...top product...the best I've tried since the early nineties...he seems like a top bloke as well. He's just got a new batch in which is supposedly even stronger than the previous batch...I've ordered 2 grams already. He ships from the UK and Germany. Very quick delivery and stealthily packaged.
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I bought a sample from OldAmsterdam. I am happy with the quality, packaging and delivery time.
I'd be happy to if I were a new user with just one post.
I don't know. MrFireUK or BM?
Same here.
The difference is 6% purity and $70. What do the pro's mean ?
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I bought a sample from OldAmsterdam. I am happy with the quality, packaging and delivery time.
I'd be happy to if I were a new user with just one post.
I don't know. MrFireUK or BM?
Same here.
The difference is 6% purity and $70. What do the pro's mean ?
I'd choose MrFire if the purity was proven :( Difficult decision.
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I bought a sample from OldAmsterdam. I am happy with the quality, packaging and delivery time.
I'd be happy to if I were a new user with just one post.
I don't know. MrFireUK or BM?
Same here.
The difference is 6% purity and $70. What do the pro's mean ?
I'd choose MrFire if the purity was proven :( Difficult decision.
First, I want read some good feedbacks about his >90% stuff.
His old batch hasn't got an effect on me ( +- 65mg ). I'm a bit scared that his new batch also hasn't an effect on me.
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I'll be able to sample/test out vendors in ~2.5 weeks, still spending holidays with my parents/friends/family etc now soo.. can't really take the chances of delivering it to my parents house ::)
I will order BoyMasters stuff and definitely gonna check out MrFireUK as well.
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on fireuk SAMPLE not current 90% listing
I got MrFireUK's sample in the fastest delivery time I have received as of yet.
Good packaging. Completely dry product. It didn't smell too far off from OldAmsterdam gear but way less solventy. It just had that amph sulfate smell. It does rove OldAmsterdam doesn't sell bunk but it's nowhere near 72% (perhaps half of that) and the caffeine makes it bad for me and perhaps others.
This is supposedely 20% less purity than the stuff listed now.
After having a comparison to Oamsterdam stuff with caffeine in it (which I don't tolerate well) I could tell immediately that this was caffeine free. Notably in heart rate staying below 100 and tachycardia levels. It was very smooth and made me very sociable, outgoing and funny without seeming like I was on something. I definitely I preferred this to BoyMasters _OLD_ batch of 72%. it was perhaps slightly less in purity, I'd say 65% but that's so subjective it's irrelevant. I never got that extreme "crashy depression" feeling which I think is attributed mainly to speed that is mixed with caffeine to me. I used oral dosages of around ¬50mg, I did start off snorting 30mg but amph usually works better for me when I take it orally. Although it was incredibly easy to chop into powder as it was bone dry. It did burn well no tears:) although I've snorted mephedrone and meth and that brings the tear drop. This is close but I don't expect tears from amph sulfate, just a nice clean burn! I mean heck, the stuff works orally why screw with your nose.
The peak wasn't super long like it would be on meth per say but I suppose on par with what a sulfate peak should be like- to me though this is a good thing. I don't want to stress my body for hours on end from a single dose.. however, you can redose just make sure you stopwatch your doses and don't redose too quick too soon.
I use an app called chronology on iPhone which allows you to name and run multiple stopwatches. Then you can time doses perfectly.
if the 90% listing is better than this sample of the new stuff then I think it's a must buy from anyone who uses amph as a life tool. I think you can get recreational with it but it's also excellent for creativity and efficiency.
I'm no doubt putting a few orders in for this although I'm definitely going to use this product with a bit of caution. I might bulk purchase to share with friends but otherwise it's probably best I don't keep too much around! In my profession this puts me into the zone like nothing else and that can be quite empowering.
I've no idea what BM's new stuff will be like but I'm getting the effects from the mini version of the supposed 90% already so I'll stick to this for now. Hopefully it'll be around for a while.
It'll be interesting to see if I'll get to bed without GABA agonist aid (which I do have around as always).
TL;DR
MrFireUK:
(the sample that is not even as strong as the main listing)
LEGIT PRODUCT
CAFFEINE FREE
GOOD COMMUNICATION
INCREDIBLY FAST DISPATCHES
GREAT PRICES
Looks like we're alive and kicking with legitimate products once more. Hopefully put the undesirables out of their thieving business in the Speed section!
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Just received a gram of amphetamine sulfate from Cape Crusader. Before I begin this review, I should note that I am an American who has had little experience with amphetamine: I did my share of "bathtub crank" (racemic methamphetamine) as an apprentice Wizard, and have tinkered a bit with some RC stimulants, but have only taken oral amphetamines a couple times and still haven't snorted the stuff. So I'm not a stimulant expert, just a psychonaut who has a lot of things to get done.
Cape Crusader's package arrived from South Africa within 9 days, which is about the standard for packages from the region. It was well-packaged and more than adequately discreet. The powder was rather firmly caked, but crumbled quickly enough on handling. For my opening event I decided to go with 40mg plugged. Said dosage was weighed out, dissolved in approximately 2ml of water and squirted up the ol' Cadbury Trail approximately 45 minutes ago. I figured that if this was pure amphetamine sulfate that would be about 20mg of dexedrine - a nice but not outrageous dosage.
(Note to the haters: rectal use of drugs doesn't make you gay, having homosexual sex makes you gay. While the Grand Wizard's orientation is none of your business, I've got no problems with using a method which helps me bypass the nausea of oral, the sinus pain of insufflation, and the various hazards of needles while giving me bioavailability and speed of onset comparable to an IM shot sans abscess risk).
Within a few minutes after turning the Cadbury Trail into the Colon Speedway, I was noticing a definite glow. 15 minutes afterwards I noted the slightly elevated heart rate and mild headache which I always get with stims. But I also noticed the distinct lack of jitteryness, racing heart and sweats which I get with most RCs. This is crystalline clear stimulation. It could definitely be recreational in the right setting but it can also be useful for getting things accomplished. 40mg was, if anything, more than I needed: I suspect that I'll be taking Xanax around midnight to get to sleep and will probably do about 20mg next time.
Overall, I give the Cape Crusader's amphetamine the highest marks. It appears to be clean, pure and energizing - just what I look for in a stimulant. He delivered exactly what he promised in a reasonable time frame. This one is going to last me a while, but I hope Cape Crusader sticks around: I definitely want to keep more of this stuff around the house. As Borat would say, "Very nice. I like."
Following through on this at 11:15 or so my time. I'm still wide awake, much laundry has been done, and a writing project is finally getting completed. Thank you, Cape Crusader, for giving me back my productivity, even if it is costing me some shut-eye.
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@cape
GWiz , I'm interested now ;D
Is your listing stealthed?
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Albion has FIRE lsd up right now (although only 110ug, it is legit)
Good price, I'd grab it now before it is gone.
Thanks mate! Just got up, gonna look into it right away :)
In LSD-Community, you don't find good Trips. Good Trips find you! ;D (actually true irl)
Thanks at GrandWizard (I'm REALLY looking forward to mine now 8)) and ohnoes for the reviews.
I'll gonna order some of FireUK's new new batch hopefully today, then I can compare. Also think BM's prices are slightly over the top. why didn't he stick to the first prices:
180€/10g (BM) vs ~158€/10g (FireUK) sounds much more reasonable to me. If both are equally potent. We don't know that yet. I have the feeling CC will have a word here too. I'm really getting excited by now, CC could arrive any day now 8)
Sales will show... Buying BM ain't the no-brainer it used to be though.
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It looks like supply and demand is finally going our way here for buyers with all these promising legit vendors. NBOME lowered his prices and the slight menthol smell and oily "base" approach is novel for me. Rare to have a speed vendor with 100%. His stuff has checked out with reagents and I have dried it out. Will be sampling tomorrow and will for sure review.
So far NBOME been a real pleasure to work with. Great customer service.
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It looks like supply and demand is finally going our way here for buyers with all these promising legit vendors.
Yea, something is definitely up :) To me it looks like there's a spike in supply in almost all drug categories. Even starts to (finally) hit LSD market. Maybe some guys are back from summer break. Good for us indeed 8)
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@generationlost: No my listings are not on stealth. I'm currently waiting on some more stock. My chemist is not a large scale cook. I have however explained to him that there will be a huge demand for the product and he will be able to supply much bigger quantities from next month onwards so bigger listings are still a few weeks away. You patience will be rewarded however. You'll be looking at about US140/EUR115 for 10 gram packs of uncut amphetamine...
@muslix: I only managed to ship out samples last week wednesday evening as i made sure my actual orders were shipped out first. And with Thursday being a national holiday your sample probably only left the country on Friday( possible Monday so you may have to hang on a few more days..
and @Thegrandwizard: Thanks for the great review. I'm glad you're happy. As a new vendor this type of reviews really help..
Thanks everybody
CC
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I can recommend Mr Fire...I received a gram and was very happy...top product...the best I've tried since the early nineties...he seems like a top bloke as well. He's just got a new batch in which is supposedly even stronger than the previous batch...I've ordered 2 grams already. He ships from the UK and Germany. Very quick delivery and stealthily packaged.
Yeh, but he won't send to USA without FE. Anyone who does that (FE) must be desperate! Mr.Fire's a good bloke, but finalizing early is just dumb and paints a sign around your neck that say, "JUNKIE"
But that's just my 1.4 cents worth!
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Just received my sample from MrFireUK - 500mg of the older batch I think. Packaging was great, amongst the best I've had on SR. Nothing special, but just good, flat, vacuum-sealed, unsuspicious packaging. Delivery took 3 days from DE, though where I live the mail tends to take anything from 1 to 5 days longer than everywhere else in Europe. Especially in summer - maybe everyone at the mail office has gone to Spain? Anyway, the speed smells right (a good clean amp-sulphate smell, nothing too solvent-like) and it is a nice dry white powder.
It is probably good to mention that I have somewhat of a tolerance at the moment, as over the last month or two I have probably consumed a gram or so of meth and a gram or two of amp. Last week I smoked a quarter gram of meth but haven't taken anything in a week.
I snorted around 50mg to start, but realized quickly that I would need more. So in total I snorted 80 to 100mg. Also the burn is not so bad - when amp-sulphate is pure it burns to holy hell. So this fact and the required dosage suggests to me maybe a purity of 50% or 60%. Not quite as strong as advertised but totally respectable all the same, and the new batch is supposed to be stronger!
Got a nice clean buzz going right now, there's no caffeine in there. After my morning pint of espresso any more caffeine would probably have killed me . 8)
Of all the generic white powders available WHY do people cut speed with caffeine? Any white substance like dextrose or lactose has gotta be cheaper and at least it won't completely fuck up the dopamine/epinephrine balance. Caffeine easily tips amp from being clean and chilled to tweaky and sweaty especially in those who aren't regular caffeine users. To me, paying 20 euro for a gram of uncut speed is really not so bad.
So for those of you who are currently amphetamine-free (read: got better things to do than read my post) here is a summary:
Packaging: 5/5
Speed: 4/5 (Could be stronger, though this is an old batch so not sure how relevant this is)
Real nice speed! Thanks MrFireUK!
We now have at least 3 good amp vendors (BM, MrFireUK, CapeCrusader). THREE!
Now it is time for me to go and undo the last weeks procrastination :P
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I previously reviewed Northern Dancer's "ICE" speed pills back a few pages, but wanted to update now that I have used a reagent testing kit. Very similar reaction to the Excels. The ICE pills also contain methamphetamine ::). They may be a combination, but unable to determine amphetamine is also present when there is meth.
Fun Canadian pills, just be aware there is methamphetamine in the two main ones I have tested. I tend to be a purist, just like to mix them all myself. With the amphetamine market heating up with some quality, no more attempts trying to find a good old fashion speed pill (With just amphetamine).
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What a surprise ::)
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i just got my sample order from rigolo, sneak peak:
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triforce for size-comparison
pills are 12x4mm, packaging needs some improvement. and yea, they are meth + amp, that's at least what I know/have been told. have an appointment for lunch, gonna test them afterwards.
edit: agreed @caffeine_me, funny how quick the market went from nothing to almost saturated (<10 days). still gonna have them tested, I don't mind meth as long as it isn't being sold as amp.
How long do you guys wait, til you declare an order as not arrived? I placed 2 orders last Monday (10 days ago), one from Germany other one from Canada, the latter has arrived, the one from Germany is still MIA. :'(
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Listings are up!
Happy shopping ;)
Greets
BM
Welcome back! Did you get the pH right this time? :)
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@valentinesmith would you mind posting a small review of the latest BM-Batch? I assume you'll place at least a small order :) iirc you tested all batches so far? I (and I guess a lot of others) would be very interested in your findings. the higher the purity the lower my experience with it ;)
took 1 excel half an hour ago (they taste like CW's meth, fugly), after some great italian food. lots of vegetables.
BTC is completely going crazy atm. A friend of mine who studied 'economics' (german: BWL) for a couple of semesters, started to 'invest' in BTC when I started to buy speed here. his investment is at +400% now, I spent all on drugs. Anyway, chatted with him a bit and we both agree: this won't go up forever (d'oh), the closer it assembles an exponential function the more dangerous it gets. No one knows when it crashes and how it crashes (fast deep crash or slowly fading like last year), but it will. So be careful! Personally I am buying BTC and spending instantly, waiting til this spike is over, although it could keep going on for a while.
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Cafeine, please tell me how is the quality compare to ICE pills, I am almost certain you will like mine as much or even more.
I never sold those as AMP because I was unsure. I said i did not know whats inside.
From the review I had, people said this was much more amphetamines than meth, so thats why i said that But it was based on review.
Methamphetamines is present on 100% of pills being sold here. That's how are SPEED PILLS now, maybe 10 years ago it was not that way, but now, all factory are only having methamphetamine + amphetamines pills. mine contains both for sure, I do not know which of both is more present.
I can tell you, that I am very happy that the ICE pills have meth also on them, now everyone that tryed ICE pills will see that mine are same ( or close ) for a much cheaper price.
Waiting for you both to post, if you want, some review about physical test. I am certain you will be happy of those pills effect.
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Did anybody buy off amsterdope?
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given allowances for being a new seller (i've given him tips cos his speed is awesome)
I can honestly say this guy has some mega strong speed, with a little improvements to packaging he should be up there with all the others selling top quality speed (cos not all of them deserve their place in the top ranks,mentioning no names.)
If your'e like me, I like to sample this market places quality products. And speed is my drug of choice.
Aloha, and thanks for reading!
PS. NBOME's packaging is easily the best. top marks to this man
PPS. I'm dying to try some amphet sulphate. What happened to "capecrusaders" listing? I almost jizzed when I saw it, but thenit diassappeared! Ive read a few reports thats its pukka? any word appreciated! (is he a member of the forums)
Regards, NumNuts (sorry for my noobishness)
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I seek 10 guys her from this Review, to sample my speed. I think it one of the best her on the Road.
Pm me.
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Lonely camel scammer dont sent any order...AND write only smiles..Dont refund..Good scammer. Don use his servise!
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I seek 10 guys her from this Review, to sample my speed. I think it one of the best her on the Road.
Pm me.
I´d love to do that. Have been a regular Amphetamine User for about 10 years now, and can give you a nice description and it´s effects.Also have testet nearly every Speed that was offered here in the last 6 monhs, So.i can compare your product with every other from here.
If you want me to test it , write PM. But only if it is not shipped from USA/CANADA/ASIA
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New Batch froim Mr. FireUK is fucking great. I didn´t like his first one very much, not more than average street speed.
But the actual one is really awesome. Nice euphoria, real clear thinking, and of course power and energy, defintely no caffeine,
or any other shit in it. I tried 50mg oral, and i´m having real good time for the last 3 hour, altough i built up a high tolerance from cotinously taking speed in last 3 months.. BTW My appartment, no is spotless clean.
Thanks for that MrFireUK
I hope you will stay here on SR for a very long time.
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PPS. I'm dying to try some amphet sulphate. What happened to "capecrusaders" listing? I almost jizzed when I saw it, but thenit diassappeared! Ive read a few reports thats its pukka? any word appreciated! (is he a member of the forums)
Regards, NumNuts (sorry for my noobishness)
I am hoping Cape Crusader returns: my second day's experiments with his amph have been every bit as successful as the first. I'm finding 20mg in the early a.m. followed by 30mg about 4 hours later appears to be the perfect way to ensure your morning is a productive one. As a comparative newbie to amphetamine, I may not be the best judge of what is or is not good speed. But I can assure you there is no caffeine in this stuff -- I drank my usual 500ml of strong coffee this morning an hour after the first dose and could definitely feel the difference between the two chems. (Didn't need the java to stay awake, but needed my morning brew to avoid the caffeine withdrawal headache). And after hearing descriptions of some of the slop sold on SR, I feel confident in saying it would meet the needs of any discerning amphetamine gourmand.
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Cafeine, please tell me how is the quality compare to ICE pills, I am almost certain you will like mine as much or even more.
I never sold those as AMP because I was unsure. I said i did not know whats inside.
From the review I had, people said this was much more amphetamines than meth, so thats why i said that But it was based on review.
Methamphetamines is present on 100% of pills being sold here. That's how are SPEED PILLS now, maybe 10 years ago it was not that way, but now, all factory are only having methamphetamine + amphetamines pills. mine contains both for sure, I do not know which of both is more present.
I can tell you, that I am very happy that the ICE pills have meth also on them, now everyone that tryed ICE pills will see that mine are same ( or close ) for a much cheaper price.
Waiting for you both to post, if you want, some review about physical test. I am certain you will be happy of those pills effect.
On another note. I took half of ND's ICE pill this AM on an empty stomach. Hadn't had any stims for about a week, last was adderall. Drank a full glass of water only. Hit pretty hard at one hour. Not really any shakiness like I can get with adderall. Felt warm, alert, focused, horny, couldn't stop chatting, and more motivated to get shit done (More than normally with adderall). It was just the right amount to start, any more and it may have been a bit much for me. For the next four hours had very steady effects. At that time the euphoria dropped off a bit so I took the other half with a light lunch. Felt a little impulsive so I had a couple of bumps of some fine washed charlie, which was fabuloso, and a redbull to take the energy up a bit with B - vitamins/caffeine.
Even though I have no experience with meth, I would say the effects were pretty similar to amphetamine. They were slightly more broad and intense, so there may be something else beyond just some form of amphetamine salt. I do not suspect caffeine in the pill, as the redbull addition would have immediately clued me in, and well I am a bit of a caffeine expert :o No anxiety, irritability, tremor, or distorted thoughts.
For the people that got mrouid's ice pills a while back, they look and feel exactly the same. ND's packaging was very creative (Rhetorical--how did you do that?) and almost as good as mrouid's and it was nice not having to sign for the package. Arrived quickly. I have Arigolo's pep pill version up next, which may steal the show with proclaimed quality and price, but I would not think twice about making a large order (Probably will) with this fine vendor named Northern Dancer ;D. Thank you for a very enjoyable day. After about 12 hours from start or 8 after last half I feel like I could sleep in an hour or two. Will update if I feel like shit, but I don't feel like I will since I am having a lovely decent back to earth presently.
I give this vendor 5/5 in all categories. Shit even put his money where his keyboard is and let the product speak in a serious way by sending a half dozen for free.
copy of my ND ICE subjective review
The reagents looked the same for the ice and excel as well as total weight. I will sample your excel at some point, but trying NBOME's amphetamine today. So if yours is the same or stronger than the ice it will be a much better deal because of price. Although I will not be purchasing any because as nice as the meth is in the pill.......no offense to anyone (You have a choice to put whatever you want in your body) but I think meth is the scourge of the earth. I don't care how little amount is in it, 1mg is too much for me. My friend that had one a day of the ice for four days felt terrible physically/emotionally. Benefit vs. cost of health is not worth it to me. It is good to have variety though and competition, and I have respect for both vendors they are were both very professional. I would buy from either Ca vendor in a second if they are able to produce amphetamine only pills.
You could send them to http://www.ecstasydata.org/send_sample.php with 40 USD and then we would know at least the pills do have amphetamine in them. If you are selling that many, it would be good to know your product....in spite of what the norm is in your home town.
NBOME pep: started with 40mg, felt alert at 45 minutes. Took another 40mg oral gain and felt euphoria and more energy. took another 21mg a few minutes ago with a little coffee and I am feeling very good......definitely in the pocket. With his price adjustment, I think we have a very good competition going on here. Very nice work nbome! After letting the stuff dry over night, it is very dry and easy broken into a fine dust that doesn't stick to baggy's side. Kept its off white yellow color with no smell.
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I go for MrFire and will report in the mid of next week.
Is it 100 % sure that BMs last batch didn't contain ANY caffeine? The high was a bit unclean for me.
Just tried 85mg of DiscountDrugs' DriedBestBase ($30 per gram) about an hour ago (had a sample from 2 months ago) and don't feel ANYTHING and no dilated pupils! He's a fucking scammer. I bet you would have a 90% rating if you would just sell sugar. He definitely doesn't deserve his 94%.
Edit // To be fair: Slightly dilated pupils, very light mood lift. I think it's cut down to about 5% amphetamine.
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I go for MrFire and will report in the mid of next week.
Is it 100 % sure that BMs last batch didn't contain ANY caffeine? The high was a bit unclean for me.
Just tried 85mg of DiscountDrugs' DriedBestBase ($30 per gram) about an hour ago (had a sample from 2 months ago) and don't feel ANYTHING and no dilated pupils! He's a fucking scammer. I bet you would have a 90% rating if you would just sell sugar. He definitely doesn't deserve his 94%.
Congrats for your 100. post.
He's newest batch is 96% pure. I don't think there's much caffeine in it.
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I go for MrFire and will report in the mid of next week.
Is it 100 % sure that BMs last batch didn't contain ANY caffeine? The high was a bit unclean for me.
Just tried 85mg of DiscountDrugs' DriedBestBase ($30 per gram) about an hour ago (had a sample from 2 months ago) and don't feel ANYTHING and no dilated pupils! He's a fucking scammer. I bet you would have a 90% rating if you would just sell sugar. He definitely doesn't deserve his 94%.
Congrats for your 100. post.
He's newest batch is 96% pure. I don't think there's much caffeine in it.
Thanks :)
I was referring to hist last, not latest batch. But will try MrFireUk first. Maybe it's enough to fit my needs.
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thanks caffeine, If i may add , about your friend that felt bad, thats what happen with pills that are made with lot of shit things. Lot of people are cooking shit pills but using a good name . The ICE is perfect exemple, they cook total shit pills, and stamble a very good brand on it, that is already made.. and people buy those!
My pills are 'unknown' on the internet. They make their own name ( so far, only happy people )
Those pills , i never heard of someone feeling bad with them, except if they take more than 2 at once, they are very strong its not recommend to take 3 at once.
I would really like , if your friend that took one ice and felt bad for 3 days, if you could hook him up with one pills. I am pretty sure he would like them much more, and would not feel bad ( if he take one only )
Thanks again for buying from me.
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thanks caffeine, If i may add , about your friend that felt bad, thats what happen with pills that are made with lot of shit things. Lot of people are cooking shit pills but using a good name . The ICE is perfect exemple, they cook total shit pills, and stamble a very good brand on it, that is already made.. and people buy those!
My pills are 'unknown' on the internet. They make their own name ( so far, only happy people )
Those pills , i never heard of someone feeling bad with them, except if they take more than 2 at once, they are very strong its not recommend to take 3 at once.
I would really like , if your friend that took one ice and felt bad for 3 days, if you could hook him up with one pills. I am pretty sure he would like them much more, and would not feel bad ( if he take one only )
Thanks again for buying from me.
So how can it be that you don't know what's in the pills? Just ask your supplier who can then ask his supplier who then asks his chemist?
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Some cool stuff is currently on its way:
a) MrFire's new batch
b) CapeCrusader's sample
c) BoyMaster's new batch
I should be getting MrFire's stuff first (hopefully tomorrow or Saturday) and will definitely keep you guys posted. I'm also looking forward to CapeCrusader's stuff - but I believe shipping might still take a few days. From what I read so far, it seems to be very clean and potent.
Of course I also had to order some of BM's new batch. But looks like he hasn't processed my order yet (ordered yesterday afternoon), so this might still take a week or so.
I really like how the speed market here has come to life. And this thread is simply the best. 8)
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I bought some speed from BM last batch ( 5gram) I liked it and it was definitely good speed.
But I brought also a sample to a dutch lab and the result was 43 % speed from a max of 72%. There was no cafeine in it or other chemicals.
I am wondering why there are no more guys or girls bringing a sample to a testcentre here in Holland because its free anonymous and there are plenty off them. I guess about fifteen so most off you don't have too travel very far.
You ohnly have to bring about 100 mg.
The result from AAkoven his stuff ( 3 months ago ) was 5% speed 31% cafeine, Fenylaceton and some other stuff.
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I bought some speed from BM last batch ( 5gram) I liked it and it was definitely good speed.
But I brought also a sample to a dutch lab and the result was 43 % speed from a max of 72%. There was no cafeine in it or other chemicals.
I am wondering why there are no more guys or girls bringing a sample to a testcentre here in Holland because its free anonymous and there are plenty off them. I guess about fifteen so most off you don't have too travel very far.
You ohnly have to bring about 100 mg.
The result from AAkoven his stuff ( 3 months ago ) was 5% speed 31% cafeine, Fenylaceton and some other stuff.
So that's 60% pureness. BM said 70%, but that's still okay if there are no other psychoactive substances in it and just cut with 'sugar'.
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I bought some speed from BM last batch ( 5gram) I liked it and it was definitely good speed.
But I brought also a sample to a dutch lab and the result was 43 % speed from a max of 72%. There was no cafeine in it or other chemicals.
I am wondering why there are no more guys or girls bringing a sample to a testcentre here in Holland because its free anonymous and there are plenty off them. I guess about fifteen so most off you don't have too travel very far.
You ohnly have to bring about 100 mg.
The result from AAkoven his stuff ( 3 months ago ) was 5% speed 31% cafeine, Fenylaceton and some other stuff.
So that's 60% pureness. BM said 70%, but that's still okay if there are no other psychoactive substances in it and just cut with 'sugar'.
How is the maximum purity of 72% calculated? I get 58%, using the molar mass of sulphate as 96 g/mol and amphetamine's as 135 g/mol
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I bought some speed from BM last batch ( 5gram) I liked it and it was definitely good speed.
But I brought also a sample to a dutch lab and the result was 43 % speed from a max of 72%. There was no cafeine in it or other chemicals.
I am wondering why there are no more guys or girls bringing a sample to a testcentre here in Holland because its free anonymous and there are plenty off them. I guess about fifteen so most off you don't have too travel very far.
You ohnly have to bring about 100 mg.
The result from AAkoven his stuff ( 3 months ago ) was 5% speed 31% cafeine, Fenylaceton and some other stuff.
So that's 60% pureness. BM said 70%, but that's still okay if there are no other psychoactive substances in it and just cut with 'sugar'.
How is the maximum purity of 72% calculated? I get 58%, using the molar mass of sulphate as 96 g/mol and amphetamine's as 135 g/mol
96:136 = 96/136 = 72%.
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I bought some speed from BM last batch ( 5gram) I liked it and it was definitely good speed.
But I brought also a sample to a dutch lab and the result was 43 % speed from a max of 72%. There was no cafeine in it or other chemicals.
I am wondering why there are no more guys or girls bringing a sample to a testcentre here in Holland because its free anonymous and there are plenty off them. I guess about fifteen so most off you don't have too travel very far.
You ohnly have to bring about 100 mg.
The result from AAkoven his stuff ( 3 months ago ) was 5% speed 31% cafeine, Fenylaceton and some other stuff.
So that's 60% pureness. BM said 70%, but that's still okay if there are no other psychoactive substances in it and just cut with 'sugar'.
How is the maximum purity of 72% calculated? I get 58%, using the molar mass of sulphate as 96 g/mol and amphetamine's as 135 g/mol
96:136 = 96/136 = 72%.
Still don't really see it - I'd thought the maximum purity was the maximum amount of amphetamine molecule present, so for straight amphetamine sulphate which would have a molar mass of 231 g/mol, the maximum amount of amphetamine would be 135/231 = 58%.
But obviously I'm wrong if it's meant to be 72% :P
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So how can it be that you don't know what's in the pills? Just ask your supplier who can then ask his supplier who then asks his chemist?
I am directly with the supplier that is the main person selling for the chemist.
He will not tell me what's inside the pills. and it's not something I can ask. No one that cook pills will tell whats inside their pills, all i can tell, is my pills are very good.
I will not fight on this thread anymore, if you want u can post on my own thread. I explained over and over same thing here, now its enough.
Everyone that tryed those pills are happy.
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Still don't really see it - I'd thought the maximum purity was the maximum amount of amphetamine molecule present, so for straight amphetamine sulphate which would have a molar mass of 231 g/mol, the maximum amount of amphetamine would be 135/231 = 58%.
But obviously I'm wrong if it's meant to be 72% :P
I\ve smoked way to much, but shouldnt this be
2Amp + H2SO4 => AmpSO4
2 * 135 + 98 = x
x now contains 2 mol amp, so x/2 should give the molecular mass of ampSO4 per mol
amp = 135g/mol
ratio of base in sulphate could therefore maybe be: 135/(x*0.5) = 135 / (135 + 98/2) = hopefully 72-73% ;D
Something like that. please correct were wrong
edit: and stop posting puzzles, I can never resist :P
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Still don't really see it - I'd thought the maximum purity was the maximum amount of amphetamine molecule present, so for straight amphetamine sulphate which would have a molar mass of 231 g/mol, the maximum amount of amphetamine would be 135/231 = 58%.
But obviously I'm wrong if it's meant to be 72% :P
I\ve smoked way to much, but shouldnt this be
2Amp + H2SO4 => AmpSO4
2 * 135 + 98 = x
x now contains 2 mol amp, so x/2 should give the molecular mass of ampSO4 per mol
amp = 135g/mol
ratio of base in sulphate could therefore maybe be: 135/(x*0.5) = 135 / (135 + 98/2) = hopefully 72-73% ;D
Something like that. please correct were wrong
edit: and stop posting puzzles, I can never resist :P
I'm not sure I see where you get 2 amph molecules joined to a sulphate from, but it seems to give a figure around 73-74%.
Any of the chemists/wired-people-who-fancy-learning care to explain this one? :P
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If one sells amphetamine sulfate, one must inform about the concentration of that salt, not the freebase. The higher purity of amphetamine sulfate you can obtain is 99%, there can't exist 100% pure nothing on earth, SO 99% OF AMPHETAMINE SULFATE. Obviously that amphetamine sulfate contains the sulfate salt witch weights 98g/mole and is absolutely necessary for the use of the drug + 2 mole of amphetamine freebase. So in fact that 99% amphetamine sulfate would contain 73% of amphetamine freebase.
Nobody would buy that "pure amphetamine" if it's an amber oil with a horrible smell, a boiling point of around 230ºC and a density of 0.919g/cm^3 witch can't be used by humans in any way. So people should measure the purity of the sulfate/phosphate form and not the freebase...The pharm industry measures the dosages of drugs taking in account that they're in a high bioavailability form i.e: salt form.
Greets
BM
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Amphetamine freebase= 135.20 Molecular Weight, Formula (C9H13N) (considered as one amph molecule)
Amphetamine sulphate = 368.49 Molecular Weight, Formula (C18H26N2 · H2SO4 )
So 2 amphetamine molecule is attached to 1 molecule h2so4 (to hydrogen)
Sulphate has 2 hydrogen so it will always attached to 2 amphetamine molecules.
Hydrochloride (HCL) has 1 hydrogen so it has only 1 site to attach on 1 amphetamine molecule to form amphetamine hydrochloride e.g. C9H13N.HCL)
Now is easy to calculate ratio amphetamine base molecule when in salt forms.
Please start to use term Equivalent instead of purity. All those salts (hydrochloride, sulphate, phosphate) can be almost 100% pure but Equivalent of amphetamine (or other base drug) can be different depended on which salt it is.
Amphetamine in ANY salt form is not a mixture! Its one unique chemical substance. Amphetamine sulfate can be max 100% pure(there is no other coumpound in it) When coverted to amphetamine freebase it will yield 73% (but in 100% pure base form).
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If one sells amphetamine sulfate, one must inform about the concentration of that salt, not the freebase. The higher purity of amphetamine sulfate you can obtain is 99%, there can't exist 100% pure nothing on earth, SO 99% OF AMPHETAMINE SULFATE. Obviously that amphetamine sulfate contains the sulfate salt witch weights 98g/mole and is absolutely necessary for the use of the drug + 2 mole of amphetamine freebase. So in fact that 99% amphetamine sulfate would contain 73% of amphetamine freebase.
Nobody would buy that "pure amphetamine" if it's an amber oil with a horrible smell, a boiling point of around 230ºC and a density of 0.919g/cm^3 witch can't be used by humans in any way. So people should measure the purity of the sulfate/phosphate form and not the freebase...The pharm industry measures the dosages of drugs taking in account that they're in a high bioavailability form i.e: salt form.
Greets
BM
So for the sulphate salt there would be 2 amphetamine molecules per sulphate molecule?
This seems to clear it up, thanks. Muslix was bang on the money it seems :)
Thanks for your contribution BM, and all other vendors who come in here answering buyer questions - phet market has improved so much thanks to (what seems like at least) transparency from certain vendors.
More testing from the dutch would be a great improvement also
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I bought some speed from BM last batch ( 5gram) I liked it and it was definitely good speed.
But I brought also a sample to a dutch lab and the result was 43 % speed from a max of 72%. There was no cafeine in it or other chemicals.
I am wondering why there are no more guys or girls bringing a sample to a testcentre here in Holland because its free anonymous and there are plenty off them. I guess about fifteen so most off you don't have too travel very far.
You ohnly have to bring about 100 mg.
The result from AAkoven his stuff ( 3 months ago ) was 5% speed 31% cafeine, Fenylaceton and some other stuff.
So that's 60% pureness. BM said 70%, but that's still okay if there are no other psychoactive substances in it and just cut with 'sugar'.
I think it matters, if he brought more of the the clumpy or the powdery parts of BM's last batch to the lab, because the whitish (lactose) is mostly in the powdery parts. So 70% might still be possible^^. Whatever I am glad the stuff was amph for real :)
THX for testing the stuff speedie, I would actually consider spending some money for you dutch guys to bring more samples to a lab.
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BTC is completely going crazy atm. A friend of mine who studied 'economics' (german: BWL) for a couple of semesters, started to 'invest' in BTC when I started to buy speed here. his investment is at +400% now, I spent all on drugs. Anyway, chatted with him a bit and we both agree: this won't go up forever (d'oh), the closer it assembles an exponential function the more dangerous it gets. No one knows when it crashes and how it crashes (fast deep crash or slowly fading like last year), but it will. So be careful! Personally I am buying BTC and spending instantly, waiting til this spike is over, although it could keep going on for a while.
I think silkroad itself is mostly responsible for this. The amount of offers on silkroad has doubled in the last 5 months, which probably means there are like 20x more transactions! The moment silkroad shuts down Bitcoins will become pretty much worthless I fear :(
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BTC is completely going crazy atm. A friend of mine who studied 'economics' (german: BWL) for a couple of semesters, started to 'invest' in BTC when I started to buy speed here. his investment is at +400% now, I spent all on drugs. Anyway, chatted with him a bit and we both agree: this won't go up forever (d'oh), the closer it assembles an exponential function the more dangerous it gets. No one knows when it crashes and how it crashes (fast deep crash or slowly fading like last year), but it will. So be careful! Personally I am buying BTC and spending instantly, waiting til this spike is over, although it could keep going on for a while.
I think silkroad itself is mostly responsible for this. The amount of offers on silkroad has doubled in the last 5 months, which probably means there are like 20x more transactions! The moment silkroad shuts down Bitcoins will become pretty much worthless I fear :(
True, a lot of transaction volume comes from SR, but that doesn't necessarily mean Bitcoin relies on it mostly... For instance, I sell legit goods and the supply has been relatively steady [though adjusting the pricing these times is a real pain, doing it manually], also a lot of other people walk in similar shoes. Besides, there are advantages to be dealing in btc. [check it out folks]
@ Muslix,
The last year scenario shouldn't occur, and even if it does, the ramifications and the decline won't be as severe, etc. Think your friend might just have outdone it with his thoughts about the btc economy. Im not saying that I or the other people sharing these views are correct, but making it sound like another bubble, and that the crash is imminent or its just a matter of time - but WILL eventually happen, just ain't right one tiny bit.
Anyway's, thats a topic for a different thread...suggest we discontinue debating 'that' issue here.
peace :-*
BTW ;D
i'e got my 10g of mrFireUk's old batch [advertised 60%-+] somewhere last week, I'd rather not go in dept, since its not being offered anymore. Lets simply say - it did not impress. Works ~ok~ at large dosages, including both oral/nasal routes, but its pretty avarage [tried 100~120mg's nasal and 150~170mg oral] which is just a bit too much "volume", considering that my convenience zone of "stuff up my nose" is somewhere around 50~70mg. After that much, I have to clean my nose pretty often, much insufflated powder leaves too much residue... QQ.
- DID however order 5g of his new batch [advertised 90%] - will wait and compare to both BM's old [70% stuff] mrFireUk's old stock as well as BM's [96% stuff]
- goes w/o saying that I've ordered 5g of BM's new [96% amph] as well, yay!
Once all gets here, will be busy comparing, really to no avail I know, but curiosity drives me hard :)
Akooven & der speed doktor GTFO!
[I don't hate the other seemingly shitty vendors , although most have bad rep. in this thread - NOT including the new arrivals]
cheers!
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I believe cryptocurrency will eventually take over the world's trade. Fiat currency will be hyperinflated; people will only trust a currency based on pure mathematics. What's fascinating is that the war on drugs is really catalyzing the whole transition. And drugs aren't going to be legalised any time soon! I've been thinking about starting up an Australian exchange myself. Keep in mind we're only seeing the first wave; if SR and BTC fail (or lose "market share"), newer improved versions will take over.
I'm looking forward to trying out DiscountDrugs' street speed; should be a good alternative to coffee!
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Received sample from MrFireUK it is a nice white dry powder with a slight smell of ethyl alcohol. will weight and fully test tomorrow and report back here. Point to make is that shipping was incredibly fast and well packaged. I also ordered his new better grade as well. Looking forward to the sudden bonanza of amp coming my way.
Hilly
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thanks caffeine, If i may add , about your friend that felt bad, thats what happen with pills that are made with lot of shit things. Lot of people are cooking shit pills but using a good name . The ICE is perfect exemple, they cook total shit pills, and stamble a very good brand on it, that is already made.. and people buy those!
My pills are 'unknown' on the internet. They make their own name ( so far, only happy people )
Those pills , i never heard of someone feeling bad with them, except if they take more than 2 at once, they are very strong its not recommend to take 3 at once.
I would really like , if your friend that took one ice and felt bad for 3 days, if you could hook him up with one pills. I am pretty sure he would like them much more, and would not feel bad ( if he take one only )
Thanks again for buying from me.
I did give him some......since he does not want to buy anything with meth in it. No one I know does.
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I think silkroad itself is mostly responsible for this. The amount of offers on silkroad has doubled in the last 5 months, which probably means there are like 20x more transactions! The moment silkroad shuts down Bitcoins will become pretty much worthless I fear :(
I think so too and that's why it will fall like last year :) The question is just what scale the new cycle will be. It went down and up again in a year, next cycle could be 2 years, or 6 months. Self similar patterns (fractals) just like in the stock market (see: Elliot Wave Pattern).
@ Muslix,
The last year scenario shouldn't occur, and even if it does, the ramifications and the decline won't be as severe, etc. Think your friend might just have outdone it with his thoughts about the btc economy. Im not saying that I or the other people sharing these views are correct, but making it sound like another bubble, and that the crash is imminent or its just a matter of time - but WILL eventually happen, just ain't right one tiny bit.
Why shouldn't it? :) And yes, it will eventually happen, maybe not as severe as last year, but the rapid deflation will come to a halt one way or another.
My theory goes like this: BTC can't rise forever, I guess everyone can agree on this. So at one point it will go down again. If this inflation period is long enough, vendors will start trading their BTC back quickly b/c they will lose money otherwise. Buyers will do the same. This will result in a downward spiral until BTC has stabilized again. Doesn't matter what market you use or what goods you trade, this always applies. No one wants to watch his BTC losing money as quick as it gains value now.
edit: this is all just my prediction, I could be totally wrong of course. Don't have a time-machine either :)
It's fascinating to watch since everything happens so quickly, with a real currency this would take decades.
sorry for offtopic.
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So people should measure the purity of the sulfate/phosphate form and not the freebase...
Agreed.
But Dutch test centers apparently give out test results as a ratio of freebase/salt to make different salts better comparable (I think, or is there another reason?). No idea why they do that, they also seem to be the only ones doing this. It obviously confuses the shit out of people ;D
btw, that's what I used to puzzle it together:
http://books.google.de/books?id=JsMdeVqMp_MC&lpg=PA384&ots=bbrmRSL8xE&hl=de&pg=PA384#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Received MrFireUK new batch. Very fast and stealth shipping. Just had the time to rail like 15-20mg. Quick effect of real amph!!! Oh yeah!! Lots better than the old batch, better than GE batch. Didn't have the chance to try BM but this is gooooood!!!
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More testing from the dutch would be a great improvement also
True, the testing service is obviously a great feature in the Netherlands. But the nearest center, which is only a 30 min travel for me, is only open once every 2 weeks on thursday evening between 18:00-19:00. Quite an annoying time, and then you can call after a week on friday between 15:30 - 16:30 for the results. Also an annoying time.
But I'm glad we have test centrums.
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MrFireUK review
Product: Amphetamine (cut 3:1 with lactose, according to MrFireUK, he currently sells uncut speed).
Communication : friendly, fast.
Shipping: shipped within 24h. after ordering, arrived in 4 days from GER to EU.
Packaging: nothing fancy, but everything up to SR standard.
Weight: 0.5g. sample. My scales show 0.49g.
Looks: white waxy substance, similar to BoyMaster's second batch. Has a typical amph smell, but nowhere close to the stench of dutch amphetamine paste.
"Field test":
Tolerance: haven't taken amphetamine in 2 weeks. Went through 1.5g. of very good quality cocaine, last dose 4 days ago. Also small single doses of 2C-P and 5-meo-mipt days before (not sure about possible cross tolerances).
Dosage: 40mg. +40mg.
Effects: Snorted 40mg. dose. Could feel it, but decided I can handle more and 10 mins. later snorted another 40mg. Feels like a clean amphetamine (no caffeine). Clearheaded high, positive thoughts, it's nice to communicate with people. Very similar effects to second BoyMaster's batch, Maybe a little more euphoric feel, but I'm not sure. Now it's T+6:00H and I still feel some stimulation. No negative comedown so far, and I plan to re-dose for the evening out.
Overall: I'm happy with this transaction. MrFireUK sells even better quality speed now and cheaper than BoyMaster's new uncut batch, so I'm considering choosing him as my new speed supplier:)
Update: its been almost 24 hours since the first line. I re-dosed 4 times during the night, last dosage was ~5 hours ago. Just weighted what is left, and it comes to 130mg. That means I did about ~370mg. in 24 hours. That's a lot of amphetamine. I never went over 150mg. in one session with BMs stuff (first and second batches tested). Does it mean MrFireUK's speed is weaker? No idea. As I wrote I was binging on cocaine quite a lot few days ago, and quick google search says cross-tolerance is very possible. Also, I can safely say last (two?) re-dosing(s) wasn't a good idea. Not much of a positive effect, just got into this tired-awake mode and my heart feels achy:) I had a great night, but I feel irresponsible. Now gotta smoke some mad weed and try to get some rest now.
Thanks,
Bob A.
p.s. upcoming: OldAmsterdam's speed test/review.
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Thanks for the good review bob, I'm looking forward to see your next review from the product of OldAmsterdam.
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any idea if this is arigolo's excel pill:
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=30112
Some guy there thinks MDxx contents?
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I'm x-posting this because I feel this one might interest you all as much as it does me.
Just learned about it recently.
Phenmetrazine (aka Preludin, aka "Prellies").
Better than d-amp & meth.
Even Beatles loved it.
"..in the 1950s, phenmetrazine was preferred to amphetamine and methamphetamine by users...phenmetrazine is described as the most euphoric and pro-sexual of the stimulants...Eventually amphetamine became the dominant stimulant of abuse because of its greater availability [during the 1960's]."
I started a thread for this stuff in the product request forum (more info on it there). If you're interested in getting this on SR check it out and express your interest there too. It doesn't sound hard to get this stuff synthed.
*I'm looking at you Boymaster :)*
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=36605.0
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i'm with you. would be great if some vendor could deliver this stuff
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Some nice info on amphetamines from bluelight, many might know already.. didn't knew that page at all 8 weeks back^^
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/577851-Amphetamine-Neurotoxicity-and-Tolerance-Reduction-Prevention
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/609051-Amphetamine-Neurotoxicity-and-Tolerance-Reduction-Prevention-II
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i'm with you. would be great if some vendor could deliver this stuff
Then please bump the linked thread.
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Today I've received my first of 3 pending orders: 0.5g of MrFireUK's new uncut batch.
Shipping was quick as usual and overall it's always a breeze to order from this vendor. If all vendors were this professional and easy to deal with, there would be much less stress on the Road.
Anyways, I've done a quick bump (~20mg) an hour ago and it feels very clean. I noticed the burn is slightly more heavy and lasts a bit longer than what I experienced from his older batches. Consistency and smell is the same in comparison to his older batches (specifically the cut-with-lactose-sample). It was very easy to chop up a line. Right now, an hour into the rush, I feel very clear-headed and alert. I had been binging on too much weed the past week and hadn't been doing any amph either for about a week. So my tolerance is pretty low right now (am afraid this will change for the worse once I receive my other 2 pending orders from BM and CapeCrusader). This small bump definitely has me going now and I welcome this change in energy (was a bit worn down and tired from the weed).
I'll be posting again on the weekend once I can truly assess the potency and quality of this batch. Thus far, it's worth the price...
Cheers and have a nice weekend you guys! 8)
P.S: Looks like BM has dispatched my order as well - lovely! Really looking forward to his stuff as well. Anyone received already?
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any idea if this is arigolo's excel pill:
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=30112
Some guy there thinks MDxx contents?
I think that's indeed my pills. No one else made those excel. My factory is the only one.
I however have no more excel, its a new kind now, but its ALWAYS same reagent for every kind, just different logo ( to not attract too much attention ) As I said the other day to someone, I always have new kind. Now its new one.
I sold excel for over 3 month. It took 3 month to appear on pills report. My new kind will most likely appear only in 3 month. But as I said, All my pills are same except the logo.
EDIT: I don't think there is mdxx on those pills, but i am not 100% certain. perhaps caffein or muslix can answer this question they both tested my pill
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I'm x-posting this because I feel this one might interest you all as much as it does me.
Just learned about it recently.
Phenmetrazine (aka Preludin, aka "Prellies").
Better than d-amp & meth.
Even Beatles loved it.
"..in the 1950s, phenmetrazine was preferred to amphetamine and methamphetamine by users...phenmetrazine is described as the most euphoric and pro-sexual of the stimulants...Eventually amphetamine became the dominant stimulant of abuse because of its greater availability [during the 1960's]."
I started a thread for this stuff in the product request forum (more info on it there). If you're interested in getting this on SR check it out and express your interest there too. It doesn't sound hard to get this stuff synthed.
*I'm looking at you Boymaster :)*
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=36605.0
I hate to curb your enthusiasm, but this doesn't sound like a good idea to me. I for one wouldn't even consider buying it. If I wanted a substance that's similar to speed, but is not speed, I'd go for one of the many speed-like RCs. That's just my opinion though, that results from lots of bad experiences with RCs I had. All those substances are not new and there's a reason why they never became that widespread: there were better alternatives. Of course there might be exceptions to that, like 4MAR which I think got banned very quickly by the DEA once they realized how fast it spread and what an epidemic it could become.
I own a copy of Shulgin's PIHKAL and I got extremely excited once those PEAs became widely available. Of course I wanted to try Shulgin's magical half-dozen (by now the only one I still want to take is Mescaline), but I was disappointed pretty quickly. Shulgin was and probably still is a dedicated researcher, he synthesized a shitload of PEAs and published a scientific work on the best of those. The best of the best eventually became widely popular (eg. MDMA, 2CB), the rest didn't make it although probably still decent drugs. This is what I realized once I started to try some of them, the best of those became popular, the other stuff just wasn't good enough. Not one RC so far that I think would be worse doing again. When these drugs die out, it's usually not just because they are made illegal, but the demand goes down or shifts to something more interesting. This is of course very subjective because so far even the most promising RCs didn't deliver. If I couldn't take one single ug of that stuff anymore during the rest of my life, I wouldn't shed one tear.
Now to the more factual stuff: I read the wiki article about that and checked some of the linked sources and imho this is a kinda misrepresented/hyped representation. As far as I have read, Phenmetrazine became widely popular mostly in Sweden which at the time had a history of amp abuse. So Sweden made amp illegal and yea Phenmetrazine became more popular (imho this is a misquote of the referenced article on wikipedia, taken out of context). After all it was the next best thing and it came from pharmaceutical companies (Boehringer - Germany at it again! Temmler with Meth during WWII and amp & mdma were also first synthesized in Germany, way to go! :)) . Sweden made Phenmetrazine illegal also, but since it was produced by all it's neighbors it was still easily available, hence it's popularity. But eventually it died out and amphetamine survived. It's being said to be something between amphetamine and amfepramone (NRA - totally blows), in my experience those drugs that claim to be part this part that, suck the most because they can't achieve either.
Also you need to be aware of what you ask here :) It's not like a new recipe I can give my mom and demand to be cooked next time I come visit ;) That needs looking into research-papers, you might be reading recipes for all kinds of stuff on forums but I guess it's fair to assume that a real chemist doesn't figure this out by some anonymous forum posts (I never saw Walter White reading online forums!). So this takes time, then you need precursors that need to be obtained ($$$) and maybe additional lab supply and the time the actual manufacture takes. If you summarize this all in a € amount, I doubt this will be worth anyone's effort. Of course there is always (especially among chemists) the guys who do it because they believe in the cause (LSD-scene being a great example) but then again I doubt someone who will look into this will believe in a cause of spreading love and peace to humanity.
Just my 0.02BTC. Be careful, could be worth $1Mio by next year ;D
I also want to state, since this often gets misinterpreted, after seeing a couple of docus about Sasha and Ann Shulgin I believe these two were the perfect guys for this line of work, i.e. people who believed in the cause. And it's a good thing that Shulgin published PIHKAL and TIHKAL although they seem like a curse at the moment. Without them most of this stuff would have been synthesized anyway and would have popped up slowly over time as designer-drugs creating total havoc. Like what is happening now.
that was my weekend rant, have a nice one :)
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EDIT: I don't think there is mdxx on those pills, but i am not 100% certain. perhaps caffein or muslix can answer this question they both tested my pill
I only tested 2 so far on Thursday, no MDxx for sure. I need to test a bit more to give a valid review.
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Müslix, there was/is a patent on preludin. That's pretty much the reason for it not being produced/manufactured. It probably would if the recipe was available.
Apart from that the RC comparison is not valid. Preludin is much better in many ways than amphetamine.
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I'll drop the topic after this but here is what I have to say in response:
Müslix, the beauty of Preludin is it's relative safer profile (compared to amp and methamp), even in children, and the superior recreational value. It seems to be very much in reach. Here's what a membor (and vendor) had to say about it over in the methamp review forum (p. 183, top):
you must be young. Perludin IS THE STRONGEST, LONGEST LASTING, BEST SPEED EVER MADE
BI 62 were just awesome. a candy coating that blistered off easily with a lighter and a waxy center that was easily cooked to release the magic
the strongest, longest heat rush ever and a FULL 12 hours of fast paced bliss
I got a "vein on" just remembering
it's been 30 years since the crackdown
Did you read the entire article?
This isn't a wacky designer drug/RC that should be dismissed. This seems to truly be a real gem that was lost in history.
And unlike 4-MAR, it isn't linked to irreversible pulmonary hypertension.
Preludin is made essentially with the same precursors as amphetamine. That's one of the reasons I posted here.
Boymaster is already making racemic speed with what I believe are similar precursors.
Limitless offers these precursors.
It's not a huge leap for someone to translate the german patent and make a small batch of this stuff to test the waters...especially when it's very likely to snag a huge portion of both the amp and methamp markets.
I'm anything but a naive RC kiddie and I'm telling you, this shit is a gold mine and very much possible to synth.
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le botbahn, ask yourself the following: If it really IS a gold mine, then WHY THE FUCK hasn't anyone synthesized it, yet if it was possible?
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le botbahn, ask yourself the following: If it really IS a gold mine, then WHY THE FUCK hasn't anyone synthesized it, yet if it was possible?
You could ask the same about a dietary supplement named methylenedioxypyrovalerone. That patent languished in obscurity for years until a chemist mixed up a batch of MDPV for the RC market - and the rest is history.
I'm not saying that preludin would become as popular as MDPV and have no idea what is involved in the synthesis. If Le Botbahn (or anyone else) is interested they should get the patent translated and/or talk to a chemist about synthesizing it. It's always hard to tell what's going to be a big hit on the RC market or black market but given the track record with the various "bath salts," there definitely seems to be a demand for novel stimulants.
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No harm in seeing if anyone is willing to whip up a batch anyway, at least to satisfy curiosity's sake. Probably best discussed elsewhere though? Rather than cluttering up this thread. It's difficult enough for a noob to sort through for actual reviews an' that atm I think. I'd definitely be interested though.
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Müslix, there was/is a patent on preludin. That's pretty much the reason for it not being produced/manufactured. It probably would if the recipe was available.
Apart from that the RC comparison is not valid. Preludin is much better in many ways than amphetamine.
German patents last max 20 years, so it's out in the wild by now. And yes it should contain the instructions, there's a scribd link which starts out with PPA/norephedrine. I doubt you will get far with that. I don't claim to understand that paper, but I can read it. It's way out of my league though.
Why shouldn't the RC comparison be valid? All RCs I ever took had more information readily available than Phenmetrazine. It has been off the market for pretty much 60 years, so no research other than the initial obesity stuff. How can this be considered a better/safe alternative to (dextro)amphetamine? The latter has been sold in the US for eons, so they did extensive research on humans. Besides it's being compared to Amfepramone, so before you judge that drug, get your self some Regenon from Temmler Pharma (obesity med) and test it. Every step away from amphetamine towards Amfepramone is one step too much :)
And where do you guys get your info from? Wikipedia? This is not a valid resource.You are not allowed to reference wikipedia in an academic paper, for a reason. Unless it's about wikipedia, I guess then it's ok. To me this reads like there isn't a single fact that would make me want to try it, quite the opposite actually. I also doubt that there has been any longterm study on safety. Why would you want to trade (dextro)amphetamine for an appetite suppressant anyway? Phentermine (adipex) is also related to Amphetamine and totally blows as well :) From what I read it sounds like you are taking an NDRA (amp) and adding more NRA (amf) to it, I don't see how this is a good idea. What makes you think that this is possibly better than (d-)amphetamine?!
Besides all of that, what's the problem with the prodrug? I know probably hard to get, but before thinking about manufacturing I'd extensively test that one first. It's scheduled though. If you are satisfied (and pardon my skepticism, I highly doubt it. It's an appetite suppressant for a reason and no ADHD med) and maybe are able to convince some more guys and show that there will be demand, then you will have a way easier time to find a chemist who might help you out.
I did read the entire article and some references. I did not read some 40 year old experiences though. I don't care what drugs the beatles did or if a guy claims to have had it (how can he be sure it even was that stuff?!). Sorry but this won't beat my skepticism.
As far as I am aware current amp is made mainly from P2P via Leuckhart reaction (thx valentinesmith) or reduced from P2NP, PPA/noreheprine seems to be hardly used. (feel free to correct me, or not :) )
I am not trying to convince you not to peruse this goal. I am barely showing you the other rather big side of the coin. You should ask yourself, what don't you like about amphetamine that this stuff doesn't have or will do better. Imho if you find enough/important reasons, get the prodrug, it won't be exactly the same, but it will give you a hint. If it still convinces you, get in contact with a chemist, get a small amount done and try the real deal. If you survived that long :) and are still convinced you should take the plunge, buy bulk and try to sell it. That's what I would do. You are trying to sell a completely unknown product to most.
I really don't see how this could be a potential goldmine. I mean yes, in theory it could, but you have way too little info on Phenmetrazine. Wikipedia is not enough. It is not even considered a valid resource in academia, for all we know a 10yr old wrote that.
I am not trying to put any of you down or discourage you, if you know more than you currently are/can disclose then go for it. Just trying to add some realism to this discussion. I have tried pretty much every amphetamine-like medication I could get my hands on during my IOP days. The only 2 that convinced me were Adderall and Dexedrine (and maybe Ritalin, but it's not amp-like).
MDPV is a perfect example of what I meant with 'the effects are between two drugs'. In this case it's between Coke and Methylphenidat. Never ever reaches the potential of either and just hangs around in the middle making you twice as disappointed. I flushed >75% down the toilet. Last RC I bought and hopefully last RC I ever took. What's wrong with Amp, MDMA, LSD, Weed, Shrooms (maybe MDA and 2CB, not my favs though)? I'm more than fine with that and unless something can compete in that league it ain't worth checking out.
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I suppose it's popular in Korea because it's a shitty drug then. Just like 4-MAR is popular in SE asia because it's such a shitty drug. Just like it was big in the US prior to crystal meth surpassed it due availability of precursors.
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*JON_snow_da_bastard. FTFY, sorry just couldn't resist :)
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Lol, thanks :)
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Hello.
I´m SR User for over 3 months now. That´s my first Post here in Forum.
I got tested the most of all Speed Venors on the Road.
I get many shit. But the last times the quality here raise up quick.
Quality is for me. After 100mg pushing PUSH like a coffine overdose. No need to eat. But you can eat if you must. On Bad Speed every snack is hard to swallow. Good Feeling in Body and Soul. Happynes.
No need Line for Line for a sleepless night. If you got a sleepless night,or two, and you snort nothing after. Then comes the fuckin body downing. Abfuck. You feel shit.
With very good Speed you can have a sleepless night and feel good tomorrow after. No need to use more speed. Thats with the mainthing of my personal quality ability.
Everone feels other. Thats my Quality Checklist.
The very best Speed on the Road have MRFIRE. The old Batch was very good too. But the ne uncut Stuff is the Heaven on Earth. I use Speed for over 10years and this is das non plus ultra :o FANTASTIC.
I like to pay 20€/g for this Quality. I don´t write a test Day now or somewhat else with mg dose. It´s the very speed i´ve ever had in my life. Handle with care!! NO FE
The Second place got OLDAMSTERDAM. He´s got straight powerful speed on oil Base. It´s getting yellow after drying. The Purity with 72% is alright. The different to MrFire is the price. It´s cheap for that great quality.
OldAmserdam got also the best quality/price ratio. NO FE
I´m tested from:
Amsterdope (Good - noFE)
AAkoven (this asshole sends me a fake that gets me a horortrip direct in the hospital)
Supertrips (Standard - FE)
Discount Drugs (Fake Produkt)
Albert Hoffmann (Fake Produkt)
Lonely Kamel (Good - noFE)
German supplier (Good - noFE)
GermanExpress (very Good like OldAmsterdam on Sulphat Base no - FE. He´s shut down SR buisness)
Jürgen (Ok FE Dutch-Batch)
and the canadian Speed pills from arigolo. I have to say it´s not my thing. But my friend says they really good.
I do not care if other user have to comment on my post here.
I will not give an answer.
I hope I could help a little.
Greetings Schnneschieber
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Thank you very much for the pretty detailed review, but please write your post in German the next time ;) Very hard to understand.
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Thank you very much for the pretty detailed review, but please write your post in Germany the next time ;) Very hard to understand.
Es war noch härter den Post zu schreiben da mein Schulenglisch ein bisschen her ist aber ich werde es übersetzen.
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Hello.
I´m SR User for over 3 months now. That´s my first Post here in Forum.
I got tested the most of all Speed Venors on the Road.
I get many shit. But the last times the quality here raise up quick.
Quality is for me. After 100mg pushing PUSH like a coffine overdose. No need to eat. But you can eat if you must. On Bad Speed every snack is hard to swallow. Good Feeling in Body and Soul. Happynes.
No need Line for Line for a sleepless night. If you got a sleepless night,or two, and you snort nothing after. Then comes the fuckin body downing. Abfuck. You feel shit.
With very good Speed you can have a sleepless night and feel good tomorrow after. No need to use more speed. Thats with the mainthing of my personal quality ability.
Everone feels other. Thats my Quality Checklist.
The very best Speed on the Road have MRFIRE. The old Batch was very good too. But the ne uncut Stuff is the Heaven on Earth. I use Speed for over 10years and this is das non plus ultra :o FANTASTIC.
I like to pay 20€/g for this Quality. I don´t write a test Day now or somewhat else with mg dose. It´s the very speed i´ve ever had in my life. Handle with care!! NO FE
The Second place got OLDAMSTERDAM. He´s got straight powerful speed on oil Base. It´s getting yellow after drying. The Purity with 72% is alright. The different to MrFire is the price. It´s cheap for that great quality.
OldAmserdam got also the best quality/price ratio. NO FE
I´m tested from:
Amsterdope (Good - noFE)
AAkoven (this asshole sends me a fake that gets me a horortrip direct in the hospital)
Supertrips (Standard - FE)
Discount Drugs (Fake Produkt)
Albert Hoffmann (Fake Produkt)
Lonely Kamel (Good - noFE)
German supplier (Good - noFE)
GermanExpress (very Good like OldAmsterdam on Sulphat Base no - FE. He´s shut down SR buisness)
Jürgen (Ok FE Dutch-Batch)
and the canadian Speed pills from arigolo. I have to say it´s not my thing. But my friend says they really good.
I do not care if other user have to comment on my post here.
I will not give an answer.
I hope I could help a little.
Greetings Schnneschieber
hey, thanks for the report bud. all the one's that you reviewed that I have tried, I definitely agree on with you across the board (alberthofman's yellow oily goop that was supposed to be pep..the fuck right?)
more importantly, have you tried BoyMaster's stuff yet? I'd like to get others opinions on how it holds up to MrFire's new stuff (muslix?)
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Thank you very much for the pretty detailed review, but please write your post in German the next time ;) Very hard to understand.
It's one of those translation that kept the German grammar :) I understand most of it, but it is indeed hard to read. I wonder if the non-german guys can read this.
Is the keeping of your native language's grammar a thing Germans like to do, or do I just notice it because I'm a german native speaker? Maybe aakoven's Gibberish makes sense to dutch people? ;D
@Schneeschieber: Danke für die Zusammenfassung, stimmt so ziemlich mit dem überein was auch hier berichtet wird. Abgesehen von SpuerTrips und Lonely Kamel die, soweit ich weiß, nicht sonderlich konstant in der Qualität sind. Boymaster wär noch eine Empfehlung, sollte an FireUK rankommen oder sogar besser sein. Die ersten Bestellungen aus dem aktuellen Batch gingen Freitag raus.
Und jo, schreib Deutsch :) nicht bös gemeint, aber wenn jemand die Grundstruktur der deutschen Grammatik im Englischen beibehält versteht das außer Deutschen keiner ;) Ich opfer mich gerne für Übersetzungen.
@generationlost: It was shipped out on Friday, predicting transit times is kinda hard atm since I'm experiencing weird delays, mostly from Germany. No idea if this is some local issue (e.g. our Airport) or a problem with the Deutsche Post. We'll see - I'm guessing Wednesday or later.
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Just like 4-MAR is popular in SE asia because it's such a shitty drug.
Do you have any experience with it? I've read a couple of articles where it was praised as the UBER-drug, makes you smart, gives euphoria, lasts forever, although addictive. Then there are the erowid reports, which seem to indicate the exact opposite :) Judging from those reviews it sounds like something between d-amp and d-meth.
I take back that I'd be interested in trying it :P Prefer some solid Dexedrine :)
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Nagut.
Ich wollte in meiner Beurteilung nicht mit meinem Finger auf Händler zeigen und rufen dein Zeug ist Mist. Die Quali von Supertrips und Loney Kamel sind sehr viel schlechter als die von Amsterdope oder German Supplier.
Das sollte aber nicht der Kontext meiner Aussage sein. Ich wollte lediglich die von mir getesteten Sorten bewerten und habe letztenlich MrFire und OldAmsterdam hervorgehoben.
Es tut mir leid wenn ich die anderen Hänler, mehr oder weniger, in eine Schublade gesteckt habe.
Nein Die Hänlder BoyMaster und Nature Alchemist habe ich noch nicht versucht.
3 Coins /g ist ein strammer Preis das mich abgehalten hat zu ordern.
Aber wie heisst es doch so schön: Qualität hat eben ihren Preis.
@müslix. Für eine umschrift in "ecgtes" Englisch wäre ich dir sehr dankbar
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Nagut.
Ich wollte in meiner Beurteilung nicht mit meinem Finger auf Händler zeigen und rufen dein Zeug ist Mist. Die Quali von Supertrips und Loney Kamel sind sehr viel schlechter als die von Amsterdope oder German Supplier.
Das sollte aber nicht der Kontext meiner Aussage sein. Ich wollte lediglich die von mir getesteten Sorten bewerten und habe letztenlich MrFire und OldAmsterdam hervorgehoben.
Es tut mir leid wenn ich die anderen Hänler, mehr oder weniger, in eine Schublade gesteckt habe.
Nein Die Hänlder BoyMaster und Nature Alchemist habe ich noch nicht versucht.
3 Coins /g ist ein strammer Preis das mich abgehalten hat zu ordern.
Aber wie heisst es doch so schön: Qualität hat eben ihren Preis.
@müslix. Für eine umschrift in "ecgtes" Englisch wäre ich dir sehr dankbar
Translation:
Alright then.
I didn't want to call anybody out about or say their product was lame in my review. The quality of SuperTrips and Lonely Kamel are a lot worse than Amsterdope or Germansupplier.
But that's not what you should take away from my review. I honestly just wanted to review the different products which I tested myself. Lastly I wanted to bring attention to MrFireUK and OldAmsterdam in terms of quality. I apologize if I just pushed pretty much every other dealer out of the picture.
But I haven't tried BoyMaster or NatureAlchemist yet. 3BTC is a bit much for me, and has kept me from ordering. But like they say, quality has its price.
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Du hast gesagt, du hast schon seit 10 Jahren speed genommen? Du hast dann bestimmt auch öfters sehr gutes Zeug gezogen. Ich war schwer beeindruckt von Boymaster. Amsterdope war auch ganz oke, aber wie es schon erwähnt war, caffein als Streckmittel ist eigentlich nicht wünschenswert.
Das meiste hier ist schon viel besser als was man an die Straße kauft. Aber ich würde viel lieber €20 für einen 30 Prozent reinen gram kaufen, als €20 weg schmeissen, für einen gram, der weniger als 10 Prozent Amfetamin Inhalt hat. Die Sache ist halt, es gibt so viele bessere möglichkeiten hier am Netz. Auf diesem Grund warten wir alle sehr gespannt, bis super Händler wie Boymaster oder MrFireUK gelegentlich vorbei kommen und uns sehr reines Zeug für einen ziemlich guten Preis verkaufen.
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Alright then.
I didn't want to call anybody out about or say their product was lame in my review. The quality of SuperTrips and Lonely Kamel are a lot worse than Amsterdope or Germansupplier.
As I see it, that is what this thread is for. Telling good AND bad experiences (unfortunately there's way more of the latter). If a vendor doesn't like that, he should sell quality product. It's as simple as that. Amount of bad reviews for Boymaster so far: none. I think he's also the guy with the most reviews.
Think about it this way: If you get bad product, would you order from that vendor again (maybe he sells other stuff, that might be really good)? If you are sure you will never buy again (with the same account ;D) then rant away. Shitty vendors deserve shitty reviews. But there's also a way of not liking a product in a review without pissing the vendor off, but that's just not my style :) In any case: if you had to FE and want a refund, do all negotiations about that before posting the review. Everyone has his own rules how to handle that, some already said they would never post a negative review because it makes the vendor look bad and they won't get money back (kinda reduces their trustworthiness to 0). I also have some rules, most prominent: I don't give a shit about most vendors' reputation (if he wants a good rep, he should sell good product, as simple as that) and my most important rule: once there is something in the speed that could be a health hazard all rules become invalid :)
If no one would speak out about the shit being sold here, the current rise in quality would probably never have happened. This thread is a vital part of quality control, without it I would probably give up. Actually this thread IS the quality control.
But that's not what you should take away from my review. I honestly just wanted to review the different products which I tested myself. Lastly I wanted to bring attention to MrFireUK and OldAmsterdam in terms of quality. I apologize if I just pushed pretty much every other dealer out of the picture.
You made a rating based on your experience. Such postings are perfectly fine and very welcomed. I do have to say though that ordering all that by yourself shows a tendency towards masochism :P
@raven: the stuff being sold in the real world can't be compared to this. You usually have the whole drug-management you have to deal with. Even if you work your way up, it is extremely unlikely that you'll get 50 to 60+% speed. The manufacturing is very well hidden from the costumers if it's local. Imagine what a smart chemist would do once he met the customers who actually buy his stuff after it went through 5 dealers. I leave out the dextro source of my early days since I was extremely lucky to find a guy like that. I guess the best I ever bought locally was max. 60% unadulterated. I usually had steady supplies with 20-30%. Also has it advantages: cheaper and available pretty much 24/7.
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Du hast gesagt, du hast schon seit 10 Jahren speed genommen? Du hast dann bestimmt auch öfters sehr gutes Zeug gezogen. Ich war schwer beeindruckt von Boymaster. Amsterdope war auch ganz oke, aber wie es schon erwähnt war, caffein als Streckmittel ist eigentlich nicht wünschenswert.
Das meiste hier ist schon viel besser als was man an die Straße kauft. Aber ich würde viel lieber €20 für einen 30 Prozent reinen gram kaufen, als €20 weg schmeissen, für einen gram, der weniger als 10 Prozent Amfetamin Inhalt hat. Die Sache ist halt, es gibt so viele bessere möglichkeiten hier am Netz. Auf diesem Grund warten wir alle sehr gespannt, bis super Händler wie Boymaster oder MrFireUK gelegentlich vorbei kommen und uns sehr reines Zeug für einen ziemlich guten Preis verkaufen.
Ich lebe in einer Stadt mit 100000 Einwohnern. Die nächste Großstadt ist ca.200km entfernt. Das Zeug was hier ankommt ging durch 1000 Hände.Jeder will dann ein Stück vom Kuchen haben. Dementsprechend ist die Qualität...
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@valentinesmith would you mind posting a small review of the latest BM-Batch? I assume you'll place at least a small order :) iirc you tested all batches so far? I (and I guess a lot of others) would be very interested in your findings. the higher the purity the lower my experience with it ;)
I helped a friend make an order with BM, so I'll probably get to sample it once it arrives. No extensive testing though, since it's not mine :).
Thank you very much for the pretty detailed review, but please write your post in German the next time ;) Very hard to understand.
Fuck that shit! If you want to talk speed in german, you should start a new thread. I think it's really bad form to write in a language many of the thread's followers don't understand.
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any idea if this is arigolo's excel pill:
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=30112
Some guy there thinks MDxx contents?
I think that's indeed my pills. No one else made those excel. My factory is the only one.
I however have no more excel, its a new kind now, but its ALWAYS same reagent for every kind, just different logo ( to not attract too much attention ) As I said the other day to someone, I always have new kind. Now its new one.
I sold excel for over 3 month. It took 3 month to appear on pills report. My new kind will most likely appear only in 3 month. But as I said, All my pills are same except the logo.
EDIT: I don't think there is mdxx on those pills, but i am not 100% certain. perhaps caffein or muslix can answer this question they both tested my pill
Based on my reagent testing I would say it does not have MD** in it. If they did just the simon's reagent, the cobalt blue looks the same as MDMA, because of the meth, that is why you need to do the Marquis Reagent and/or Mecke Reagent first. The Marquis for the excel and ice pills were an obvious (meth)amphetamine substance. The meth may also be perceived by an inexperienced user as MDMA with speed because of the serotonin stimulation coupled with dopamine agonist action.
As a side note, arigolo's speed pills have been sampled and they are stronger with less side effects than the ICE pills. Alert, clear head, productive and one pill taken in two halves spread across a couple of hours lasted a good 10 hours. So if you are okay the meth additive, the lesser cost makes it a good buy. I may send one into ecstacydata.org to see the ratio of meth/amphetamine and what exactly is in it, although with such high quality pure amphetamine available it may be a while.
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Fuck that shit! If you want to talk speed in german, you should start a new thread. I think it's really bad form to write in a language many of the thread's followers don't understand.
chill bro :) the point was that if Schneeschieber has problems with putting up his review in English, he should just post it in German and one of us native speakers will translate it to the best of our ability. This would make it easier for everyone.
Almost all of the german stuff is here in English also, I do agree though that it is confusing as shit, so it would be nice to just delete the german once it has been translated. I also dislike multi-language spam on English forums, if someone wants to start a german thread for domestic users, I'll likely join, but I keep this one as the primary speed-thread, as it should be.
To add some value: should get some money tomorrow, gonna finally place that testorder with FireUK to see how it compares. No more FE in EU which is great. Likely to sample a few of those X-File pills also.
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yeah.. can't wait for the order to come in. I'd take 50mg orally with the sample product. So 35mg should do the job with this new 90% stuff yes?
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A small update for everyone who is curious about MrFire's new batch:
It's some SERIOUS amph - that's for sure. As I have already posted previously, I snorted a small line (~25 mg) on Saturday afternoon which lasted for hours, and then I took another bump (~30 mg) around evening which had me going all night. Seriously, I was up until 7am the next morning and had a very hard time to fall asleep - even with the help of 50mg Seroquel (which I had lying around fortunately). After all I was able to sleep for 6-7 hours straight, and when I got up, my pupils were still dilated... I felt a bit worn out today, but that's most likely because I had a few beers during the course of the night and smoked cigarettes like a steam train.
All I can say is: be careful with dosages! ;)
Next up for a review is BM's new batch and CapeCrusader's sample (should hopefully get in some time next week).
Has anyone tried supplementing Melatonin as a sleeping aid for speed induced insomnia? Am considering to try it out, just need to find some shop on the clearnet (unfortunately one needs a subscription for it here). What are the recommended dosages?
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A small update for everyone who is curious about MrFire's new batch:
It's some SERIOUS amph - that's for sure. As I have already posted previously, I snorted a small line (~25 mg) on Saturday afternoon which lasted for hours, and then I took another bump (~30 mg) around evening which had me going all night. Seriously, I was up until 7am the next morning and had a very hard time to fall asleep - even with the help of 50mg Seroquel (which I had lying around fortunately). After all I was able to sleep for 6-7 hours straight, and when I got up, my pupils were still dilated... I felt a bit worn out today, but that's most likely because I had a few beers during the course of the night and smoked cigarettes like a steam train.
All I can say is: be careful with dosages! ;)
Next up for a review is BM's new batch and CapeCrusader's sample (should hopefully get in some time next week).
Has anyone tried supplementing Melatonin as a sleeping aid for speed induced insomnia? Am considering to try it out, just need to find some shop on the clearnet (unfortunately one needs a subscription for it here). What are the recommended dosages?
Couldn't agree more, his new batch is the fucking shit!! Anyways, melatonin doesn't work for me at all, if anything it made my pep insomnia worse (even in upwards of 35mg doses).
HOWEVER, diphenhydramine (benadryl ultratabs/generic) work amazingly. Take 25-50mg, just go about your business as usual, you'll know it's working when you get hit by a TRAIN of sleepiness, the loopiness is also is kinda trippy in it's own but I take it to sleep - just lay down and you'll be lights out asleep almost instantly. You might wake up a lil groggy, but it's damn worth it to not have insomnia.
Good luck
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As a side note, arigolo's speed pills have been sampled and they are stronger with less side effects than the ICE pills. Alert, clear head, productive and one pill taken in two halves spread across a couple of hours lasted a good 10 hours. So if you are okay the meth additive, the lesser cost makes it a good buy. I may send one into ecstacydata.org to see the ratio of meth/amphetamine and what exactly is in it, although with such high quality pure amphetamine available it may be a while.
thank you very much for ordering from me and testing my pills. I appreciate alot that people take time to post comments on their order, I even appreciate more when its positive comments.
Thanks!
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The Second place got OLDAMSTERDAM. He´s got straight powerful speed on oil Base. It´s getting yellow after drying. The Purity with 72% is alright. The different to MrFire is the price. It´s cheap for that great quality.
OldAmserdam got also the best quality/price ratio.
Thanks for the review.
MrFire's is apparently dry already, but OldAmsterdam's feedback says his needs to be dried, though, right? 10g -> ~5.6g, apparently...
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Dicount drugs is a selective scammer with at best caffine powder no speed
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who said there won't be a btc crash? :)
http://btc.kurs24.com/eur/?q=1 :)
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Couldn't agree more, his new batch is the fucking shit!! Anyways, melatonin doesn't work for me at all, if anything it made my pep insomnia worse (even in upwards of 35mg doses).
HOWEVER, diphenhydramine (benadryl ultratabs/generic) work amazingly. Take 25-50mg, just go about your business as usual, you'll know it's working when you get hit by a TRAIN of sleepiness, the loopiness is also is kinda trippy in it's own but I take it to sleep - just lay down and you'll be lights out asleep almost instantly. You might wake up a lil groggy, but it's damn worth it to not have insomnia.
Thanks a lot for your suggestion! Someone else (I think it was valentinesmith) has mentioned antihistamines before. I've done some research and believe it's definitely worth a try. I'll drop by a local pharmacy today and see if I can get a hold of this stuff. I'll report back in a few days on whether this works for me.
Any other input regarding antihistamines and melatonin (or other sleeping aids for that matter) is highly appreciated. :)
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I'll drop by a local pharmacy today and see if I can get a hold of this stuff. I'll report back in a few days on whether this works for me.
Any other input regarding antihistamines and melatonin (or other sleeping aids for that matter) is highly appreciated. :)
He also said that the prsecription free/OTC stuff most likely sucks iirc. You should be able to get a prescription rather easily though.
Not much to say about Melatonin: short half-life, makes you tired, doubt it can counteract speed, but are said to help Dopamine recovery. I think it used to be illegal or scheduled for some weird reason, which later turned out to be BS. Smells like a pharma-stunt (they did the same with 5HTP when prozac became popular). Mine are from biovea.
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He also said that the prsecription free/OTC stuff most likely sucks iirc. You should be able to get a prescription rather easily though.
Not much to say about Melatonin: short half-life, makes you tired, doubt it can counteract speed, but are said to help Dopamine recovery. I think it used to be illegal or scheduled for some weird reason, which later turned out to be BS. Smells like a pharma-stunt (they did the same with 5HTP when prozac became popular). Mine are from biovea.
Ya, it seems some antihistamines require a prescription here. I really hate going to my Doc, although he is very helpful. I think I've only seen him 2 or 3 times during the last 3-4 years. I don't want to lie to him, telling him I need some help with speed induced insomnia. ??? He gave me a prescription for beta-blockers once which were very helpful with my (ex) public speaking anxiety.
Anyways, I'll see what my local pharmacy can tell me about antihistamines. I was looking at biovea.com as well. Seems like a good place to order from.
Thanks for your input! ;)
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these are mine: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/6f2f8b951d price being WAY over the top as always on SR.
ah, UCB still seems to hold the patent for Atarax, explaining the high price. did a quick search on my sources (Indian meds with EU reshipping), realistic prices are 90x25mg for 48€, 360x25mg for 150€
didn't know that they it potentiate opiates though, but I also didn't know they helped with nausea (really effectively also!). quite useful med to have around. valentine's stuff looked much more promising though.
You can always tell your dr. you have trouble sleeping, but make sure you mention heat isn't the cause. If he's for benzos or a Z-drug benzoderivate, tell him you don't like those because addictive and all, but usually it shouldn't be the first thing they suggest. No need to lie, just leave out some details :)
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I looked into it a bit more, this is what I am trying next: Promethazine (Phenergan) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promethazine
strong sedative, used for pre-op, weak antiemic, anti-psychotic effects. Half-Life: 10-19 hours. Moderate affinity on some 5HT and D2 receptors - acts as an antagonist. On paper this sounds awesome.
Only found one source so far where it's priced at 20, 45, 65 for 30, 60, 90 pills respectively (Indian generics). Sounds kinda expensive, might go visit the doctor instead :)
edit: as a purely hypothetical, does anyone know what would happen if one were to combine a dopamine releasing Agent used to treat Parkinson's Disease with Amphetamine? Like the ergoline-based Pergolide, or any other from that family? Possibly dangerous, I know, but technically speaking what would happen? Potentiated effects?
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CAPE CRUSADER ARRIVED!!
This is not my review, just my first impression.
The packaging is pretty much as good as this type of packaging can get. Raises no suspicion at all. No way to tell what is inside without opening. There's a computer printed date on the envelope (something about get your own po box) no idea were this was printed (it is printed over the stamp), but if this is the date it entered the postage system it was amazingly fast.
When I opened it, it looked a bit like the stuff from AC so I was a little shocked at first. This quickly disappeared once I opened the ziplocks, checked the consistency and the smell. I was pretty convinced right there. It is very very slightly moist, if you now CW's meth, this would be dripping wet compared to CC's amp. If you put it in a 'small letter' (Brief(chen) in German, folded from a piece of approx 10cm by 10cm paper) and put pressure on it, it will form clump(s), which will then collapse again to fine powder. Don't know if anyone understood this, but back in the day this used to indicate good product. Mixing stuff in your bathtub with solvents wasn't that popular back then.
I was told I'd get an older batch as well which was supposed to be yellowish. So I saw to bags, but with the same stuff. Another AC-Flashback later, I held it up into the sun and indeed one was much whiter than the other. But if you put both bags on a piece of white paper this is barely, if at all noticeable. So I now have two bags, one new batch (500mg) and the old 'yellow' batch (1000mg).
I've been up way too long over the weekend, no quality sleep, not the best physical prerequisites. I couldn't resist though, after further inspection this stuff looks so awesome, so I just HAD to try it. Made a line of new batch and one of old batch. First old batch: not exactly pleasant, pretty intense actually but not very long lasting, just shed a small tear ;) 2 hours later the new batch, I thought it was even a bit more intense and the effects were slightly stronger, but it was also the second line, so this is highly subjective. First line was 11 hrs ago. Due to my weekend I am not buzzing like crazy, but I am awake, focused, concentrated and it all feels incredibly clean and nice. Yes, I have said that before. I was stupid and didn't know shit :P This stuff is REALLY clean. No jittery-ness, no heart racing, no nervousness, everything that I usually attribute to caffeine is gone.
No final verdict yet, but I am surprised that that small amount is still keeping me going even after a somewhat weird weekend. My guess based on this sample would be that it will be up there with BM's new batch. Unless this turns out to be a weird RC I never heard of and the first one I actually like, but I doubt it. If it's really pure I can't say, it looks very homogenous like nothing I have seen here before. It has the speed smell and taste (once in mouth / nose), but is still mostly odorless. I don't want to give recommendations based on two lines, I still want to find out if there is a difference between old and new. From the looks of it I'd say no. What I can say so far is that this is the most promising test order I ever had (also the best sample ever, but also the first that I accepted. I usually don't ask for this). What I like most is those small lines you can insufflate, hurts for a tiny while, maybe nasty at the throat, but then it's gone and all that is left are the effects. Think about what all the shit you usually get does to your stomach. By now I get frequent nausea and stomach cramps, with this: nothing. Feeling perfectly fine.
TL:DR; CC sample here. no final verdict yet. so far, me likes :)
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Damn sounding like good days over here for amp. Would love some CC gear.
Just received the new batch from MRFIREUK. Just like the first 0.5g sample this shipped to me very fast in US. I did like the 0.5 g samplw which did remind me in taste much like Boymaster gear. That lactose flavor is very easy to spot now for me but good amp and nice buzz. That one had a bit of a ethanol smell really. The newest batch packaged well and as soon as you cut that vac seal the smell of cinnamon hits strong. It is still a powder from and dry. Once the baggie is open that lovely smell develops into more benzaldehyde type flavor. Could not resist had to try a little poke and it is great. Love the flavor and to be honest not much of a burn but i like meth so you haters can go on about it. No tear from here I rather like this amp and I will be gathering coins for much more. Strong euphoria and push.
WOW highly recommend. Tiny bump 4 hrs ago and i am praying i sleep but not too hard since it is so enjoyable to keep surfing
Hilly
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Quick review of MrFireUK’s old batch (currently sells uncut speed).
DELIVERY: 5 days in EU (priority)
PACKAGE: Professional in every way. You can give it to you mother and she wouldn’t be suspicious ;) Even if she had a dog.
COMMUNICATION: Fast and friendly
PRODUCT: (Said to be 60 %) First impression – Not that much but still better than average street speed. Clumpy (slighty wet), nice smell. Doesn’t hurt much when snorting.
I have no tolerance at all. I did two lines (matchstick size, is it something like 25mg?). After 20 minutes I feel it, but nothing special. So after 50 min I have to grab a beer, put music on and do some more ;)
After one hour and 5 matchstick lines (125mg?) I feel OK, would like to chill out, listen to music and drink beer. I don’t have any need to clean my house or whatsoever.
I’ve ordered BM’s uncut and will also try MrFireUK’s new batch.
I need more music and more beer.
~Q~
EDIT: Now after experience of BoyMaster's pure stuff, I can say that this MrFireUK's stuff had lots caffeine in it, because I got horrible heartbeats. With BM's stuff there were no such things. I did 0,7g of Fire's in 5 hours. Same with BM's--> could be fatal.
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i will receive the next days from afterhour an speed sample,i will report back about quality after arrival
thanks so far for the sample AH!
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MrFireUk new batch arrived..smells reassuringly like cat piss..and I'm tempted to try. Have the feeling I won't be very subjective due to a weekend of over indulgent festival abuse..then again ......just a little..Still waiting on BM..Laters..
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I received my gram of the new uncut stuff from MRFIREUK today, 3 working days after ordering in a discrete and professional looking envelope, an vacuum sealed.
It was quite waxy and very clumpy inside the bag and had quite a strong odour, slightly sweet maybe a little floral, just smelled like speed really lol.
Had to dry it under a lamp for 5 mins and chop it quite a bit before it became a snortable powder. I divided up slightly less than 50mg into 2 lines and snorted them. 1st one was pretty painless but the second burned very strongly for a good minute before dying down - it brought tears to my eyes, but i often get that from speed.
Anyway the effects took about 10 minutes to fully kick in, and it feels quite strong, not at all overwhelming but has made me focused, motivated and surprisingly quite calm too, no jitters or uneasiness. Heartrate hasnt elevated much at all, at 70bpm right now 30 mins after snorting it. I dont have a huge amount of experience with speed but this does feel stronger per amount than BMs stuff 2 months ago. But i think the purity may be slightly lower than 90% as that would mean ive had 40mg of pure which i would have expected to be a far more intense experience, as i have almost no tolerance. But either way im very happy with the product as ive only used around £1.50 worth of stuff.
Sorry if this post is a little rambling, but i thought i should post my experience with his stuff as ive used this thread multiple times myself :)
thanks MRFIREUK!
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Hey guys!
Please take the time to check out my listing for pure amphetamine sulphate.
I'm starting out by listing 1 gram quantities only. Bigger quantities will be up in a few weeks.
I'd like to offer a few free samples to established forum members(muslix, caffeine_me, peter pan?) so please PM me for more details.
I know that i am quite far from most of you so you may have to wait a few days longer than when you order from european vendors but i can offer you excellent quality speed at very good prices so that should more than make up for it!
Thanks for your time
CC
He sells some very good quality amphetamine, tried it and love it! :)
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I received my gram of the new uncut stuff from MRFIREUK today, 3 working days after ordering in a discrete and professional looking envelope, an vacuum sealed.
It was quite waxy and very clumpy inside the bag and had quite a strong odour, slightly sweet maybe a little floral, just smelled like speed really lol.
Had to dry it under a lamp for 5 mins and chop it quite a bit before it became a snortable powder. I divided up slightly less than 50mg into 2 lines and snorted them. 1st one was pretty painless but the second burned very strongly for a good minute before dying down - it brought tears to my eyes, but i often get that from speed.
Anyway the effects took about 10 minutes to fully kick in, and it feels quite strong, not at all overwhelming but has made me focused, motivated and surprisingly quite calm too, no jitters or uneasiness. Heartrate hasnt elevated much at all, at 70bpm right now 30 mins after snorting it. I dont have a huge amount of experience with speed but this does feel stronger per amount than BMs stuff 2 months ago. But i think the purity may be slightly lower than 90% as that would mean ive had 40mg of pure which i would have expected to be a far more intense experience, as i have almost no tolerance. But either way im very happy with the product as ive only used around £1.50 worth of stuff.
Sorry if this post is a little rambling, but i thought i should post my experience with his stuff as ive used this thread multiple times myself :)
thanks MRFIREUK!
What did you expect then? Ever tried meth or C and had very high expectations? I think so, because how high do you want to get when MrFireUK's speed has about 90% purity?
And what about just trying to do 20 mg on top? Then you definitely have 100% and I guess you're not happy either.
I'll try his gear on friday and am very curious about it. Will report.
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I received 2 grams of Mr Fire's new batch of speed today and I think it's fucking awesome. I tried his last batch and I definitely think this batch is better. Before this I hadn't done speed in years...the best speed Ive ever done was the famous pink champagne from about 1991 bitd...while its not as strong as that its still fucking great stuff...hits the spot and I've only done a couple of lines. Took about four or five days to get here...but it was well worth the wait. Well packaged and he seems like a really decent guy as well. Nice one Mr Fire....I'll be ordering some more. :D
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OldAmsterdam
Product: Amphetamine ('1gram Dutch Speed (sample sale) high grade 72%')
Communication: no PGP key. I saw a couple of feedbacks saying order was way underweight after drying, so I wrote to OldAmsterdam asking to make sure my gram order weights at least 0.8g. after drying. OldAmsterdam replied fast saying he would dry it for me. Cool. Seems like a friendly and patient vendor.
Shipping: order was shipped withing 24 hours and arrived in 5 days (NL to EU).
Packaging: handwritten address! Everything else up to SR standard. I was disappointed to see amphetamine paste is very wet. Did OldAmsterdam forgot to dry it?
Weight: 1g. sample. After drying my scales show 0.88g.
Looks: slightly yellowish, wet paste. Left a baggie open for a day and it dried up fine. Has a strong chemical smell (like all dutch speed paste I got from SR).
Tolerance: living fast these past two months, I'm sure I have some tolerance by now. Went through 0.5g. of Mr.FireUK amphetamine (not the current batch; review in this thread) within 72 hours. After that no drugs taken for 48 hours. Got lots of sleep, ate lots of healthy food, multivitamins, 5-htp to recover. I'm feeling rested.
Trip report:
-T1h30m 1 teaspoon of soda bicarbonate taken in half glass of water (soda bicarbonate is said to help oral absorption of amphetamines and prolong postive euphoric effects).
-T0h40m 1 teaspoon of soda bicarbonate taken in half glass of water.
+T0h00m 100mg. taken orally with a glass of water. Tastes quite bad.
+T0h30m first signs, but feels weak, and I'm thinking about redosing. Decide to wait a little bit more.
+T0h50m coming up pretty strong now, it's getting hard to sit in one place. Mood is getting better, but not much of euphoria. Hands are shaking a bit. I feel inspired to write this report;)
+T1h20m 1 teaspoon of soda bicarbonate taken in half glass of water. I feel my heart beating strong. Pulse is 80BPM. Lack of euphoria is disappointing, but I'm feeling alert and concentrated.
+T1h30m I feel irresponsible, but decide to snort 50mg. more before going out. Speed is still damp and I spend some time trying to chop it. Burn is not as strong as previous batches of BoyMaster or MrFireUK.
+T1h40m I notice it's hard to stand in one place. Feeling ready to go out and have some fun at the bar. Pulse 72BPM. I'm out.
OK, this was quite underwhelming. The whole time I felt that I should have taken more. I expect from speed to eliminate my social anxiety and give that feeling of well-being, but I didn't enjoy talking to the people too much, and I didn't have fun like I'm used on speed.
+T5h30m 80mg. snorted out of desperation to get high.
+T9h00m redose felt like a waste. First hour was alright, but then I started feeling 'not in a mood' to socialize. Now I'm feeling tired and disappointed with this evening. Pulse is 90BMP. I think the reviewer who said this amphetamine is cut with caffeine was right - usually I feel this way when I take amph with caffeine. Seems like quite a few shitty hours is ahead of me:/ (no benzos).
Total dosage taken over 5 and a half hours - 230mg.
Overall: there is a chance that my tolerance is high and my brain is out of 'happy', but I don't believe this speed to be 72% pure. And i believe it's cut with caffeine, which I hate. This gram cost me ~10$ shipped, but I wouldn't buy speed at all if it always felt this way for me. Just like before I got that sample from AspirantCooper's first batch, which changed my opinion about amphetamine. To be fair, this speed felt stronger than average local street speed or couple of dutch amphetamine pastes I got from SR before. No PGP key, handwritten address, not the purity given in description (my opinion based on experience) and no warning about caffeine - 4/5.
Wish me luck coming down from this!
Bob A.
Upcoming: CapeCrusader and AfterHour amphetamine reviews (not sure if they have sent the samples or if they will at all after this not-very-positive review ;)).
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Has anyone tried supplementing Melatonin as a sleeping aid for speed induced insomnia? Am considering to try it out, just need to find some shop on the clearnet (unfortunately one needs a subscription for it here). What are the recommended dosages?
Melatonin should be taken in 3~5mg dosages...anything over that is counter-efficient. Actually read some studies about that, if you want I can look up the sources for you.
Have done a variety of dosages from 1.5~5 mg occasionally and I'd say the effect is noticeable, but it won't make you fall asleep if you consumed amph. a couple of hours prior to your deserved resting period, don't expect miracles, its an aid, works best for shift workers and such...not for speeders like us, he he.
who said there won't be a btc crash? :)
http://btc.kurs24.com/eur/?q=1 :)
Doesn't that look more like a correction ? Ain't see no crash :/ Too bad cuz I wanted to buy cheap.
Fuck we're offtop again -.- aah.
I just wanted to check the results for BM's new speed from new sources here...always end up replying to non-related stuff.
**** BTW, but I was wondering if people measure the VALUED CONTENT of their arriving packages at all. ****
Some obviously do...seen some references to that in this thread... but do you????
OK, granted, my miligram scale isn't one of the TOP notch models used in pharma industries or labs, but im reluctant to believe that I always get a weight deviation from the advertised/ordered amounts. WTF
Not even once have I got speed that was accurately measured, be it the dutch, german, spanish, or uk vendors. Its understandable if its from fuckers with shit stuff that scam ppl [most notable one was der speed dok.] but why does it happen in case of good & trusted, well established vendors with exceptionally good speed around here?
Im not going to name them, as the last thing I'd wanna do is to hurt their rep. out in the public... but please if you do read this, get your measurements right. Its just fucking frustrating! to see the fucking scale show ~1.2grams less in a 10g package or ~200mg less in a 5g package.
*yes I did calibrate and tared it*
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Took about 200 - 300 mg of MrFireUK's speed today (my scales are cheap shit designed mostly for weighing out grams of weed). I'm very impressed. I feel highly stimulated, no jitters at all. I think I perhaps dosed a little too high though because I can feel a bit of a body load - it's not unpleasant or worrying in any way, i'm just aware of it that's all. I'm also getting waves or rushes every few minutes which are absolutely lovely, but my intention was to just take enough to pep me up, rather than to get euphoric effects, but no matter, i have nothing important to do today! I try to use speed in a "medicinal" fashion, or like a cup of coffee rather than a recreational substance to get fucked up on, as I sometimes have difficulty with focus and seeing projects and ideas through to the end. A little tiny kick up the arse (perhaps it's more of a pat on the bum, lol) from some good phet makes my whole life run 100% smoother. I can tell once I find my ideal dosage this bag is going to last me bloody AGES!
Give this stuff some serious respect and always dose low and work up until you know where you are with it. Thanks a million MrFire!
You know how dealers love to tell stories about where they get thier shit or how uncut it is in order to big up their gear and all - I've heard a million of them, and I'm sure the rest of you have as well - well I'm inclined to 100% believe everything MrFire said earlier in this thread about his supply, just based on the quality of his product.
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Cross post from MrFireUkthread:
Hello guys,
I received my amphetamine order today. The delivery took 3 business days from Germany to the Netherlands. The packaging was good, the vacuum sealing was done very well. I was not able to smell anything.
I don't use speed very often so I decided to start off with 50mg. After 5 minutes I feel active, sharp, clear and cheerful, I want to undertake action.
I also feel a little bit euphoric. My heart rate went from 68 to 84, might be interesting for some people.
The communication was fast and friendly, this was my first order and MrFireUk helped me out with some things.
Since I live in the Netherlands I have the opportunity to let it test at a test service. And I am going to take that opportunity. I will bring it to a test service on August the 30th, I'll have the test results 8 days later on September the 7th.
I'm very excited for the test results.
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Took about 200 - 300 mg of MrFireUK's speed today (my scales are cheap shit designed mostly for weighing out grams of weed). I'm very impressed. I feel highly stimulated, no jitters at all. I think I perhaps dosed a little too high though because I can feel a bit of a body load - it's not unpleasant or worrying in any way, i'm just aware of it that's all. I'm also getting waves or rushes every few minutes which are absolutely lovely, but my intention was to just take enough to pep me up, rather than to get euphoric effects, but no matter, i have nothing important to do today! I try to use speed in a "medicinal" fashion, or like a cup of coffee rather than a recreational substance to get fucked up on, as I sometimes have difficulty with focus and seeing projects and ideas through to the end. A little tiny kick up the arse (perhaps it's more of a pat on the bum, lol) from some good phet makes my whole life run 100% smoother. I can tell once I find my ideal dosage this bag is going to last me bloody AGES!
200-300mg is really a lot for this quality. For a subtle effect I'd take as little as 20-30mg.
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@trololooo: Actually it was a ponzi scheme that imploded. There are a lot of guys offering investments in BTC, often scams. If you search btc-news sources you'll find it. And it wasn't long enough to start inflation, only a quick crash. What I am talking about is basically the opposite of what happened from spring to now, like last year. This is not based on any economics or market knowledge, it's based on (crowd) psychology.
MrFireUk new batch arrived..smells reassuringly like cat piss..and I'm tempted to try. Have the feeling I won't be very subjective due to a weekend of over indulgent festival abuse..then again ......just a little..Still waiting on BM..Laters..
Please make a comparison to CC's amp.
to add some info on Rigolo & CC:
the day before I was testing CC I took some of rigolo's speed pills, no doubt in my mind that this is meth. I don't seem to react well to meth, see a couple of pages earlier (discussion with pachang). I found that there's more people who apparently are incompatible with meth. Including me and pachang (I just assume he is one of those since he had the same experience) there's five people on this board alone who reported this. Funny enough all CW customers, but since I tried rigolo's speed pills I'm rather sure it's not CW, but the meth.
On the excel-pills I first got very physically active, not unpleasant, wanted to do something, couldn't sit still, but no speed-ish euphoria. This lasted for an hour, then I had the same feeling of boredom that I had with CW's meth. 2 hours in it started to change into a more speed-ish high. Now that I liked. But it was not strong enough to be fun. I remember a warning not to use more than 2 a day or something. To be safe I stuck to that, for the first 3 hours. Then it went out of the window. I didn't/don't know if the pills are just meth (I read the body splits it up into meth + amp) or meth & some amphetamine. So I took some more to the point were my stomach was getting slightly upset. At that point I hit the emergency button with an Antiemic and benzos.
These are probably fun pills if you like meth, due to the body high they are probably also good for workout. But it's not really my deal, as I said clean amp is what I like. I gave my pills to a friend for further testing. I also can't tell what other adulterants might have been used, the meth/amp is strong enough to cover most of it up.
On the next day (no sleep) I received CC. I was barely able to stay awake, all the other stuff was still active, but after lunch I hit it anyway. I didn't expect much, but it completely took over, I was wide awake again and my head was completely clear. This lasted for over 16hrs, with small bumps here and there. The fact that it even got me out of this meth (sic!) is quite an accomplishment. But then keeping me going for so long is really nice. I am sobering up now, because that wasn't a good starting point for evaluation/comparison. I also managed to hit the amphetamine plateau, it's when you are awake for a while and bumping new speed just doesn't do anything anymore. First time with stuff from here. Had that more often in my early party days, but now I never let it come that far (most of the time). Remember that dear readers who accuse me of having had too much amp when I say it's the adulterants.
I am running dangerously low on CC though. I kept some for analysis, gave some to a friend and now I am left with what doesn't look like much :( I hope BM comes through soon, can't wait to see how it compares. FireUK won't make it before next week.
Where is CC? I'd like to order a bit more to do direct comparison. Until FireUK's gear arrives the stuff from CC will most likely be gone ;D
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Got Speed Sample from OldAmsterdam, competent Vendor. Quality is very good, it´s wet but let it dry well.
It is very good to sniff
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If taken bicarb will neutralise excess of stomach acid, which in fact turn freebase to salt form, or in the other words turn unsouble base in water soluble.
But amphetamine is in salt form already (h2so4) so "lack of stomach acid(hcl)" or neutralisation by bicarb does not have any influance on it and does not serve any good.
If stomach ph is neutral it my prolong drug to kick in, to absorb and to reach full active, but that may depend on other factors too (drug lipophilic properties).
Amphetamine is very lipophilic and pass cell membrane fast and easy regardless of stomach acidity (ph values).
But.... ;) renal excretion half life (12-14 hrs) has a key role in this prolong effects with D-amphetamine.
I did heard that bicarb can prolong effect with dextro-amphetamine, which more then half is eliminated unchanged in the urine. Making stomach ph more alkaline with bicarb and thus alkaline urine bladder, may prolong that excretion half life and give amphetamine more time to reach full potential. Speed (typical amphetamine) is a mixture of levo and dextro amphetamines. I am not sure does this count for racemic amphetamine (DL) as well or only to dextro isomer. But if within mixture is half of dextro-amphetamine isomer then I do not see why not, for sure at least for a half of the total amphetamine mass, bicarb should give enhanced effect.
Just my 2c :)
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MrFireUK gave me good service on a gram of the latest (stronger) batch. It arrived quickly and quietly, and was good fun, nice and smooth. It didn't smack me in the face as much as I was expecting, but it was nice.
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You can add Muslix's taste test with my first examination of product and see new player to the field is not fucking around........I'll follow up with my subjective once sampled (I hope soon!)
I also received an order from Cape Crusader, about 7 days total to US once shipped (A couple of extra days before shipped). Packaging is very good, to expect any more would be to nit picky. It was ~100mg over the 5G's (I'm kicking myself for not ordering 10 now) ordered. CC's amp had a very faint "speed smell" that really is only noticed with nose next to bag. Slightly off white moderately dry powder. There is evidence of wetter product stuck to the bag, but everything left is not sticking and is easily crushed to fine powder.
I did a Marquis & Simon's Reagent test, which looked as good as my Vyvanse control test. Brilliant orange on the Marq. and almost no reaction to the Simon's which indicates no methamphetamine.
Muslix: Any rough idea on dosages and I am assuming in was trans nasal insuflation? I will probably be taking orally, all this powder dose look very sniff-able.
CC: If this is as good as I think it will be, I would love to get a lot more. Hope the manufacturing is going well. Thanks again!!!!
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Anyone received from BM yet?
@caffeine_me: all nasal, yes. I always do it that way when testing new stuff, bombing it could have unpleasant effects. But I prefer orally also once I know it's good. Next time will definitely by a capsule about the dosage helhazz took. I can't really suggest a dosage, since I don't know your tolerance. But I suggest bumping the first time you try it, prepare multiple capsules/bombs and drop them every 2hrs or so. I often do a line for instant effects and a bomb/capsule for more buzz.
If you know how many Adderall you can take at once you can roughly calculate it from there.
The friend I gave something is really enjoying it as well. Wish I would have kept it all to myself, now he's high and I'm not :P
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Haven't ordered, little low on money at the moment.. :( Checking out MrFireUK's gear tho, still waiting on my coins (fuck you Intersango)
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Anyone received from BM yet?
no :/
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My review on new batch for MrFireUK.
I decided to go for MrFireUK's since BM's is a little out of my price range. First time ordering from him.
Tolerance background: I've taken 70-90mg every morning 5am of BM's old batch (the 70% pure stuff with lactose), and 50-70mg in the afternoon around 3 or 4 o'clock for the recent few weeks. Young, female, but have taken speed for a longerish time now.
Large domestic order arrived after 2 days. Not too stealthy, but it was there. Still have to weigh the total.
Package and contents looked a lot like the stuff I used to have from Amsterdope, even had the same smell: sorta fishy-chemical-ish. Same color and texture. Pure white with clumps. I remember someone saying his had to be dried a little. It looked kind of wet, but it was actually dry. Like müslix said, the clumps form, but break apart with zero effort.
It is a super soft powder. Super easy to cut, unlike BM's old lactose batch.
Took 70mg. Didn't burn at all, but now I'm used to worse, I didn't even cry.
Hit me immediately. I felt a little weird because I think I developed this pavlovian reaction that whenever I snort something, it'll hurt like for a motherfucker and then I'll immediately get a kick.
Not this time. No pain, just smooth dive into a very speedy and energetic rush. And it's a very happy high. I thought BM's old batch was the most euphoric, but this is really really good. Usually the good mood goes away pretty quickly for me, but this seems to be lasting a while.
I would say 70mg of this is stronger than 90mg of Boymaster's old batch. Someone do the math, I suck at math.
The high is also very "clean." When I do speed and do everything a million miles an hour like I want to, I sweat coz it's just so much. Fuck I'll sweat if I'm coming up and I'm sitting still and the weather isn't right. Did everything a million miles an hour and I didn't. Maybe it's because I left the window open, but usually I do sweat a little. This time not even a drop.
I do feel really jittery, but unlike when I take really really high doses of any other product, my heart is NOT beating so hard to the point of being uncomfortable. No bodyload.
Had to go the bathroom like right after the kick... :S
Anyway, SUPER product. I would say it's definitely the >90% that it's advertised at. Someone get a lab test just to be sure tho.
Want to say it's the best speed I've had yet, but Boymaster's old batch is also really good. I wouldn't think it would be fair. MrFireUK's is just purer, obvi, and maybe there's more dextro- than levo- in it? I wouldn't know.
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A very untrustworthy review...Don't try this at home kids
Not sure how objective i can be...Tried and loved CC then took off to a festival with CC's remaining 3/4grm (all for me!) and 10g of MrFire's old batch (not all for me)..Back after 5 days of serious partying, with an extremely high tolerance.of anything with amph in it's name.!
Home to find MrFire's new batch waiting.... Thought about being sensible and leaving it,.. probably would be a waste..but it was there and welll...had to try a little, and it won't be as strong as CC will it......?
Cut out a couple of generous lines, not sure how big, but probably just under 1/4g ...Smells like chemical cat piss and.hurt like fuck,.but.in a nice way..
10min later it cut through the weekend. Came up with a euphoric rush and I was up speeding my tits off for another night..dammit.... fucking amazing considering...and
very very close to CC, although i need to take a week out to really compare them.....and maybe just a little more of CC's' to be sure....Thanks MrFire..How amp should be
. Love it lots. Where's the valium...'nuff said..
Still no BM.....
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Still no BM. It's been 6 days but waiting patiently!
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I received CC's sample today ill be testing it tomorrow and will be sure to write a review on here :)!
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Wewt MrFireUK's looks so yummy, can't wait for it to arrive.. Got my coins and ordered this afternoon
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Still no BM. It's been 6 days but waiting patiently!
Still no BM. It's been 7 days but waiting unpatiently!
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Does anyone know when CapeCrusader is back in business? Because I don't see any active listings.
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Anyone wish SR offered more speed pills? Only ones I have seen are "ICE" ones in America.
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About MrFireUKs new batch:
The high is also very "clean." When I do speed and do everything a million miles an hour like I want to, I sweat coz it's just so much. Fuck I'll sweat if I'm coming up and I'm sitting still and the weather isn't right. Did everything a million miles an hour and I didn't. Maybe it's because I left the window open, but usually I do sweat a little. This time not even a drop.
this.
I had exactly the same reaction. Street speed ALWAYS makes me sweat a lot ~10 minutes after snorting it.
This effect was so strong sometimes, that I was literally drenched in sweat and had to change clothes... very annoying
with MrFire's new batch this does not happen at all.
I am really amazed because with this stuff I dont get any of the negative side effects (uncomfortably strong heart beating, sweating, jitters) I always had attributed to amphetamine.
They were probably due to some active cuts like caffeine or ephedrine.
I don't seem to react well to meth, see a couple of pages earlier (discussion with pachang). I found that there's more people who apparently are incompatible with meth. Including me and pachang (I just assume he is one of those since he had the same experience) there's five people on this board alone who reported this.
I don't remember if we discussed ROA then, but I had only smoked the meth before. And like I mentioned it was a mediocre effect that quickly turned into a horrible hangover. In the meantime I snorted a bit of CWs meth and it was much more pleasant. I was awake and in a good mood for the whole day and while there was still the distinct and uncomfortable hangover (including slight leg cramps) it was more tolerable.
Müslix, do you already have an opinion about MrFireUKs new batch? I think I have not seen an opinion from you and I would be really interested.
My completely subjective opinion is, that there is no caffeine in it. So I think you'll like it...
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BM has arrived....oh yes... Never thought I'd have so many choices of good Amp. Like a kid in a candy store... I suppose I'd better do a 'little' tester then....=:-o
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BM has arrived....oh yes... Never thought I'd have so many choices of good Amp. Like a kid in a candy store... I suppose I'd better do a 'little' tester then....=:-o
Nice one! Right on time for the weekend.
Did you leave the feedback "Arrived safely plus a bonus.Excellent !!"? Wondering if that's two confirmed deliveries or just one.
How long was it in transit?
I ordered five days ago and I'm waiting impatiently like müslix. I cling to hope it arrives tomorrow because modafinil and lsd just isn't as much fun! At least the BTG valium arrived :)
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I always thought Amp makes you sweat loads due rushing about like a hyper 10yr old, dancing like a maniac or getting into hours of amp fuelled fucking..It's speed breath i'd like to lose... Any suggestions apart from the obvious.(.gum, mints..etc) ,
About MrFireUKs new batch:
The high is also very "clean." When I do speed and do everything a million miles an hour like I want to, I sweat coz it's just so much. Fuck I'll sweat if I'm coming up and I'm sitting still and the weather isn't right. Did everything a million miles an hour and I didn't. Maybe it's because I left the window open, but usually I do sweat a little. This time not even a drop.
this.
I had exactly the same reaction. Street speed ALWAYS makes me sweat a lot ~10 minutes after snorting it.
This effect was so strong sometimes, that I was literally drenched in sweat and had to change clothes... very annoying
with MrFire's new batch this does not happen at all.
I am really amazed because with this stuff I dont get any of the negative side effects (uncomfortably strong heart beating, sweating, jitters) I always had attributed to amphetamine.
They were probably due to some active cuts like caffeine or ephedrine.
I don't seem to react well to meth, see a couple of pages earlier (discussion with pachang). I found that there's more people who apparently are incompatible with meth. Including me and pachang (I just assume he is one of those since he had the same experience) there's five people on this board alone who reported this.
I don't remember if we discussed ROA then, but I had only smoked the meth before. And like I mentioned it was a mediocre effect that quickly turned into a horrible hangover. In the meantime I snorted a bit of CWs meth and it was much more pleasant. I was awake and in a good mood for the whole day and while there was still the distinct and uncomfortable hangover (including slight leg cramps) it was more tolerable.
Müslix, do you already have an opinion about MrFireUKs new batch? I think I have not seen an opinion from you and I would be really interested.
My completely subjective opinion is, that there is no caffeine in it. So I think you'll like it...
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BM has arrived....oh yes... Never thought I'd have so many choices of good Amp. Like a kid in a candy store... I suppose I'd better do a 'little' tester then....=:-o
Nice one! Right on time for the weekend.
Did you leave the feedback "Arrived safely plus a bonus.Excellent !!"? Wondering if that's two confirmed deliveries or just one.
Also, how long was it in transit?
I ordered five days ago amnd I'm waiting impatiently like müslix, I really hope it arrives tomorrow because modafinil and lsd just isn't as much fun! At least the BTG valium arrived :)
Yes my feedback. Not sure exactly when i ordered but it was as soon as BM posted...14th or 15th i think. Date stamped on letter says 22Aug, so pretty quick delivery once in the system.
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This can't be real amph. MrFireUk is a really nice guy and I hate to say it, but:
I am not affected by serotonergic drugs like LSD, MDMA and so on. It's a real pity.
Boymaster's stuff got me feeling good, awake and so on, but MrFireUK's doesn't do anything to me. That's fucking sad, but it has to be a serotonergic RC or something.
I tried 20mg + 10mg half an hour later + 10mg 2 hours later + 25mg 8 hours later. Real amph should be active at low doses like 10-20mg with no tolerance (last "speed" use (DiscountDrugs) is 8 days ago, a trip on BM's gear 14 days ago.)
Anyone lab or marquis tested it, yet?
Or anyone who isn't affected by serotonergic drugs like me and tested MrFireUK's?
It's really strange that all the negative effects which are normally related to speed do not kick in. Many of you said that.
It just feels like pure MDMA for me. Barely anything.
The only thing I can relate to speed is smell and taste, but it's much stronger than BM's. Maybe fake speed like Pfandleiher sold fake coke, a really good fake.
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Not sure exactly when i ordered but it was as soon as BM posted...14th or 15th i think. Date stamped on letter says 22Aug, so pretty quick delivery once in the system.
So did I. Chose priority shipping also to make sure it gets here this week. On Friday I kindly asked to ship out my order as I would need it in a week (today). I have never asked a favor of a vendor before and I think shipping my order from Wednesday out on a Friday is not that much of an unreasonable 'favor' to ask. All orders were shipped out on that day, or so it was told. 22nd is a fucking Wednesday, a full week after ordering. All the delays, announcing 180€/10g, delaying again, then list for 200€/10g. Then another delay with shipping. I really hope mine was also shipped on the 22nd or it's already lost. Spain to me is fast, I had a very good IOP there and it never took more then 3 days.
I'm sorry to say, but I'm pretty disappointed by now. The amp needs to be 200% pure to make up for all that. Stop announcing stuff and then not delivering. One time - ok, shit happens. Twice - ah, well ok, but over and over again. This sucks. That's not exactly the customer service of a top seller, that's what I'd expect from vendors like aakoven. I'm missing out on a party tonight (the one with drug-testing), because I don't have speed (again) and I don't have most of the samples I actually wanted to test. Sorry for not delivering on the CapeCrusader-sample (yet), I am keeping it for the next opportunity. This time I'll keep quiet when and where.
If any other vendor did this he would go down in flames here. I don't have no reputation to lose, so I'm really just saying what a lot of people think. I relied on this would get shipped in a timely fashion. Again got disappointed. It's the summer-time that is lost, that can't be made up with money or additional product. Global warming ain't that fast. And it shows with the other regular users as well, quite a few already stated they won't buy at all. As much as I liked the previous product and even if this batch is the bomb, I'll definitely think twice next time. With FireUK and CC (his shipping is faster) there is serious competition now.
Well. I learned my lesson. No more hyping vendors. Gets to their heads. :'(
Just my unhedged 0.02BTC
Müslix, do you already have an opinion about MrFireUKs new batch? I think I have not seen an opinion from you and I would be really interested.
My completely subjective opinion is, that there is no caffeine in it. So I think you'll like it...
Nope, but an order is on it's way to me already :) should be here early next week.
The only positive thing is vitacat's mayas. that's how it's done. ordered thursday afternoon, stamped on friday, in my hands tuesday 0800am. If I wasn't in such a bad mood I'd be trippin on +200ug now.
/rant, probably gonna lock me away with my weed for a couple of days.
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Sorry to hear müslix!
I'm also a bit irritated with regards shipping times. My order from BM was marked in transit last Friday as well (actually ordered on Wednesday, too). I certainly didn't expect it to take more than 3-4 business days.
Maybe there are some local delays with the postal system in Spain. If this is so, then there isn't anything BM can do about it. A few people have received their order it seems, so I'm not too worried right now.
Let's see if it gets here tomorrow...
@numbering: Are you taking any SSRI medication or why aren't you affected by MDMA and the like? Sounds really strange that MrFire's amph doesn't do anything for you. Personally took a very small amount a few hours ago and I can still (clearly) feel the effects.
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Anyone lab or marquis tested it, yet?
Or anyone who isn't affected by serotonergic drugs like me and tested MrFireUK's?
It's really strange that all the negative effects which are normally related to speed do not kick in. Many of you said that.
It just feels like pure MDMA for me. Barely anything.
If this is why I think it is, then numbering is a very good detector for serotogenic components and this should be taken seriously.
Will definitely follow up on that. I know people who are temporarily 'immune' also.
A lot of 'negative' effects are not speed at all though, they are caused by high doses of caffeine/other adulterants and are by now so common that people think it's the speed.
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Anyone lab or marquis tested it, yet?
Or anyone who isn't affected by serotonergic drugs like me and tested MrFireUK's?
It's really strange that all the negative effects which are normally related to speed do not kick in. Many of you said that.
It just feels like pure MDMA for me. Barely anything.
If this is why I think it is, then numbering is a very good detector for serotogenic components and this should be taken seriously.
Will definitely follow up on that. I know people who are temporarily 'immune' also.
A lot of 'negative' effects are not speed at all though, they are caused by high doses of caffeine/other adulterants and are by now so common that people think it's the speed.
I do not take an SSRI, which does not affect me as well. Simply all substances based on serotonine do not work for me.
The point regarding the negative effects seems to be plausible, yes. But it's still strange altogether.
I don't know what I'd like to be the truth in the end.
MrFireUK's gear being real and pure amphetamine and me not being affected by it in any way or MrFireUK's speed being just meph. Probably the latter.
If I snort it, there is a taste present which I've never experienced before, don't really know how to describe it, not a chemical taste.
It's nothing bad, just new to me, anybody an idea what it is? Is this taste probably masked in normal cut speed?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=30341.msg426996#msg426996
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It could be 4MA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Methylamphetamine
These studies showed that 4-methylamphetamine is much more potent at elevating serotonin (~18 x baseline) relative to dopamine (~5 x baseline)
WARNING: pure speculation.
Drug testing centers are currently warning that this substance is found more frequently in speed samples.
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It could be 4MA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Methylamphetamine
These studies showed that 4-methylamphetamine is much more potent at elevating serotonin (~18 x baseline) relative to dopamine (~5 x baseline)
WARNING: pure speculation.
Drug testing centers are currently warning that this substance is found more frequently in speed samples.
Achtung! 4-Methylamphetamin in Speed-Proben!
Beim letzten Drug Checking Einsatz haben wir vier Proben analysiert, die als „Speed“ abgegeben wurden und unter anderem das Phenethylamin 4-Methylamphetamin (4-MA) enthielten. In Zusammenhang mit 4-Methylamphetamin (4-MA) ist es bereits vergangenes Jahr zu Vergiftungen bzw. ungeklärten Todesfällen in den Niederlanden, Belgien und Großbritannien gekommen. Aus Belgien wurden soeben zwei weitere Todesfälle im Zusammenhang mit dem Konsum von 4-Methylamphetamin (4-MA) gemeldet. Die Substanz wurde von uns aktuell zum ersten Mal in vier Proben identifiziert. Eine Probe enthielt neben 4-Methylamphetamin (24 mg/g) auch noch Amphetamin (95 mg/g), Koffein (65 mg/g) und Ephedrin (16 mg/g). Die restlichen drei Proben werden derzeit nachanalysiert – das genaue Ergebnis folgt in kürze.
4-MA ist eine bis dato sehr unerforschte Substanz über die es kaum Informationen gibt. Daher ist schwer abzuschätzen, wie giftig die Substanz ist und in welcher Dosierung sie ein ernst zu nehmendes Gesundheitsrisiko darstellt. Aus diesem Grund raten wir dringend vom Konsum von 4-MA ab!
Attention! 4-methylamphetamine in speed trials!
The last drug checking application we have analyzed four samples which were submitted as "Speed" and including the phenethylamine 4-methylamphetamine (4-MA) abstained. In conjunction with 4-methylamphetamine (4-MA) is installed last year came to poisoning or unattended deaths in the Netherlands, Belgium and Great Britain. From Belgium just two more deaths were associated with the consumption of 4-methylamphetamine reported (4-MA). The substance was identified by us currently for the first time in four samples. One sample contained in addition 4-methyl amphetamine (24 mg / g) also amphetamine (95 mg / g), caffeine (65 mg / g) and ephedrine (16 mg / g). The remaining three samples are currently nachanalysiert - the exact result will follow soon.
4-MA is a hitherto unexplored very substance on which there is little information. Therefore is difficult to see how toxic the substance and in what dosage it is a serious health risk. For this reason, we strongly recommend against the use of 4-MA!
http://www.checkyourdrugs.at/aktuelles/achtung-4-methylamphetamin-in-speed-proben/
Warnung: 4-Methylamphetamin in Speed Proben
In den vergangenen 2 Wochen wurden sowohl im DIZ, als auch bei einem mobilen Drug Checking mehrere Speed Proben abgegeben die 4-Methylamphetamin enthalten.
4-Methylamphetamin / 4-MA ist eine Stimulanz, die eine Ausschüttung von Monaminen Neurotransmittern bewirkt. Ähnlich wie bei MDMA sind es auch hier Dopamin, Noradrenalin und Serotonin. In Tierversuchen hat sich gezeigt, dass diese Botenstoffe in noch höherem Masse ausgeschüttet werden als bei MDMA. Die Wirkung soll relativ euphorisch sein und wird gerne mit MDMA verglichen. Dabei kommt es jedoch zu erhöhter Stimulation, eher vergleichbar mit Amphetamin. 4-MA wirkt vermutlich schon in sehr geringen Dosen, ein Nachlegen soll sehr negative Effekte, bis hin zum Serotoninsyndrom, bewirken. Es wird vermutet, dass 4-MA stark neurotoxisch ist. 4-MA ist eine noch unerforschte Substanz und es gibt kaum Informationen darüber. Aus diesem Grund raten wir dringend vom Konsum ab!
Warning: 4-methylamphetamine in speed samples
In the past 2 weeks, both in the DIZ, as well as a mobile drug checking, several speed samples submitted included the 4-methylamphetamine.
4-methylamphetamine / 4-MA is a stimulant that causes a release of neurotransmitters Mona mines. Similar to MDMA are also dopamine, noradrenaline and serotonin. In animal studies it has been shown that these mediators are released to an even greater degree than MDMA. The effect should be relatively upbeat and is often compared to MDMA. But this results in increased stimulation, more comparable to amphetamine. 4-MA is thought to act at very low doses, a reloading is very negative effects, causing up to serotonin syndrome. It is believed that 4-MA is highly neurotoxic. 4-MA is an unexplored substance and there is little information about it. For this reason, we strongly discourage the consumption!
http://www.eve-rave.ch/drugchecking-news/337-warnung-4-methylamphetamin-in-speed-proben
Englisch texts translated by Google.
Wow! Nobody should use this substance daily until it's been tested to be amphetamine! You all know: MDMA only once a month and this stuff is much more potent than MDMA!
Status: I am very tired though taken 25mg of MrFireUk's 1.5 hours ago. I am curious about how I can get to sleep this night. I bet I fall asleep like a baby. Couldn't sleep on BM's stuff and was awake all the time. Damn.
Raven for example mentioned the very strong mood lift and she thought the stuff to be more d-amph than l-.
That's pretty much typical for MDMA/Meph or just 4-MA as mentioned above. You feel just GREAT in terms of happiness (euphoria) on serotonergic drugs.
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the extremely dangerous thing is, if someone like numbering or someone on a SSRI (who should be totally fine with amphetamine) takes this, gets only low dopamine effects and redoses until a possibly fatal serotonin syndrome.
But let's not panic just yet, just be more cautious than usual, experienced users should be able to tell it apart (I hope). Do some experimenting with reagent-tests.
http://eztest.com/4-methyl-amphetamine/
It is not clear how this adulterant came onto the market. It could be that the precursor that is used to produce regular speed (BMK) had 4-methylBMK in it.
It's been said that BMK is very hard to obtain lately. So the commercial sources could just switch to 4-methylBMK
Again: pure speculation, I don't even have it yet.
I'm out for couple days, stay safe, don't die :P
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@müslix So sorry to hear about your disappointment but there are some serious logistics problems when you have to ship 40+ orders in one day. Yeah I did read your message and told the shipment boy to send your package as soon as possible but maybe he missed it or something. So I'm not able to tell you if the package was shipped on Friday or Monday.
Hope that you all understand that it's pretty hard to do everything perfect in this business as communication is reduced to a minimum, it must go through a safe way and every movement has to be studied to not raise suspicion. I've suffered delays buying at ebay, amazon or even Dell...perfection doesn't exist...come on.
Anyway, sorry for the delays.
Best regards
BM
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I know what ecstasy feels like. I'm not a complete baby to drugs, just an infant in comparison when it comes to speed.
I order pure MDMA pills from chemicalbrothers, and I have taken them a lot of times. I've taken them a lot before I was ever a speed junkie. I take half coz they're just so strong, so don't think I don't know what low doses feel like.
Euphoria for MDMA when not having taken anything else is PURE HAPPINESS. Just unending waves of I love everything and everybody and I want the world to know that and I want to hug and kiss everybody who talks to me. MDMA with a speed tolerance, after speed is still OMG GUISE I LOOOOVE YOU HUUUUG but it's just not as stimmed.
The difference between taking MDMA now with a tolerance to amph, and to before is that now MDMA gives me a really chill high.
There is no comparison to the happiness levels of speed and MDMA. That's why I refuse to call the feel-good effect of speed "euphoria." At best, even at zero tolerance for me, it's a mood lift.
Also MDMA has it's own peripheral effects like severe gurning for me, memory loss, this really unique depersonalization effect that makes MDMA my favorite drug, actual love and sympathy, and a sorta hazy perception at the peak. Most if not all of these are present no matter what dose I take.
I can say for a fact that MrFireUK's stuff is not MDMA. I took a dose equal to a street pill, and I felt only the typical effects of speed, and none TYPICAL for MDMA.
The only difference is that the "uncomfortable" effects were not as pronounced, or even present at all. This is typical for dextroamphetamine, but I'm not the one to ask about that.
I don't know if it's a very similar RC, but it's not MDMA.
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This can't be real amph. MrFireUk is a really nice guy and I hate to say it, but:
I am not affected by serotonergic drugs like LSD, MDMA and so on. It's a real pity.
Boymaster's stuff got me feeling good, awake and so on, but MrFireUK's doesn't do anything to me. That's fucking sad, but it has to be a serotonergic RC or something.
I tried 20mg + 10mg half an hour later + 10mg 2 hours later + 25mg 8 hours later. Real amph should be active at low doses like 10-20mg with no tolerance (last "speed" use (DiscountDrugs) is 8 days ago, a trip on BM's gear 14 days ago.)
Anyone lab or marquis tested it, yet?
Or anyone who isn't affected by serotonergic drugs like me and tested MrFireUK's?
It's really strange that all the negative effects which are normally related to speed do not kick in. Many of you said that.
It just feels like pure MDMA for me. Barely anything.
The only thing I can relate to speed is smell and taste, but it's much stronger than BM's. Maybe fake speed like Pfandleiher sold fake coke, a really good fake.
I will bring MrFireUk's amphetamine to a test service in the Netherlands on august the 30th, I will have the results on the friday 8 days later. They'll tell me the percentage of amphetamine, and if it contains other stuff like caffeine, 4-ma etc.
But i'm 100% sure that what I got from mrfireuk is top of the notch amphetamine. I've used 4-fa, methylone, 6-apb, 5-apd, mephedrone, mdma, dextro amphetamine and racemic amphetamine. And I can tell you, this is amphetamine, I think it is racemic amphetamine. And in my opinion your dosage is quite low, with small steps and over a long time. I recommend you snort 70mg in one time, then report here again :D
edit: did you use his latest, so said uncut batch? Or his 3:1 cut batch? Because if you used his 3:1 batch it wouldn't surprise me if you felt nothing with the dosages you took.
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Intended to review BM's new delivery but due to my still high tolerance it wouldn't be a fair judgement.....So my lady has kindly offered herself to try..Having quite a low tolerance and no amp for the last7 days.,
She took a.200gbomb about 30 mins ago, went to take a bath and has just started tweaking. First impression... l quote 'mmmm that's nice,bit strong isn't it?' .... It's going to be an long night...:-)...
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Okay, what do I get wrong here?
Caps Lock suggests to try 70mg, helhazz' GIRL friend used even 200mg of pure stuff. WTF! Pure amphetamine is active at about 10-20mg. Why do you take that much?
Found this and many other recommendations like that on the net:
Low: 10-15 mg (Increased focus, confidence, no pronounced euphoria) Nearly no side effects
Mild: 20-35mg (Increased focus, confidence, euphoria, "speediness") Minimal side effects, may be some insomnia
High:40-55mg (increased focus, confidence, pronounced euphoria, "speediness") Dry mouth, suppressed appetite, insomnia, possible stomach cramps
Very High: 60mg and above, from here side effects would just make things more uncomfortable and the pleasurable effects would level off
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We've always taken speed in bombs of around 1/4 gm up to 1/2 depending on quality. Any less.in our opinion .just wouldn't give the strong physical buzz.,heightened pleasure sensations. extremely horny tweaks, loss of inhibitions and a complete lack of morals . .. It's a Sex and party thing .We've never had any unpleasant side effects.Apart from being totally fucked for the next day or so,.due to partying all night. The effects you quoted sound like they're from someone that's never taken speed..Even when first doing Amp in 80's 1/4g was the normal initial dose.
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We've always taken speed in bombs of around 1/4 gm up to 1/2 depending on quality. Any less.in our opinion .just wouldn't give the strong physical buzz.,heightened pleasure sensations. extremely horny tweaks, loss of inhibitions and a complete lack of morals . .. It's a Sex and party thing .We've never had any unpleasant side effects.Apart from being totally fucked for the next day or so,.due to partying all night. The effects you quoted sound like they're from someone that's never taken speed..Even when first doing Amp in 80's 1/4g was the normal initial dose.
Okay, but the quality/purity varies very much. Street speed has about 10% amphetamine. MrFireUK and BM offer >90%. I don't think 200mg is a recommended dose for 90% pure speed.
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It's feeling pretty damn good to me & my lady just now.... :o
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Okay, what do I get wrong here?
Caps Lock suggests to try 70mg, helhazz' GIRL friend used even 200mg of pure stuff. WTF! Pure amphetamine is active at about 10-20mg. Why do you take that much?
Found this and many other recommendations like that on the net:
Low: 10-15 mg (Increased focus, confidence, no pronounced euphoria) Nearly no side effects
Mild: 20-35mg (Increased focus, confidence, euphoria, "speediness") Minimal side effects, may be some insomnia
High:40-55mg (increased focus, confidence, pronounced euphoria, "speediness") Dry mouth, suppressed appetite, insomnia, possible stomach cramps
Very High: 60mg and above, from here side effects would just make things more uncomfortable and the pleasurable effects would level off
Helhazz mentioned BMs in his post though so I think he and his GF is using BMs stuff not MrFireUKs.
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I notice some reports here stating amphetamine potent at 20mg. That is a fact! I was berated by a few when I took 50mg of BMs speed and pretty much was uncomfortable as someone else reported. Slight OD and I dumped my speed - I was just so messed up for days afterwards that I thought might as well take some coke which is kinder, a pussy drug maybe, but kind on people a bit older.
So - I am here to ask if anyone here has bought/used/liked or disliked dexafetamine sulphate tablets, 5mg, Auden McKenzie pharm company.
Though I swore not to use speed again, these are 5mg and pharm and actual prescription not some generic copy.
5mg seems like it would be ok to pop one, or two? Would it supplement a bit of coke also?
I know its good with beer. Either way beer will be taken. I like a drink. I like some drugs.
That 42 inch flat-screen I saw today for a bargain price in the pub is also tempting.
NOT stolen from a house I must add. Its legitimate. Stolen from a shop or something. In the box. We looked to check it was not few bags of sand!
;D
BM still around?
Bastard shriveled my dick for a week.
;)
So, any ideas on the dex shit I got?
:D
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Hey guys ,
just read the rumor about my speed being an RC or something .. numbering I'm really sorry about your experience and to be honest can't explain it but I would bet my balls that this is nothing but amphetamine - two dutch customers are going to send it to a testing lab and will post the results - if there is ANY other chemical in it I will stop vending on here - yes I am that certain.
I have used different reagent tests and they only proved what I already knew - no MDMA , just good ol' amphetamine. As I said I don't know how you came to this conclusion but please stop spreading false rumors. Please get a reagent test yourself and check it out. I'm really looking forward to those lab tests and those will show that your assumption is completely off mate.
I'm sure mueslix is going to use reagent tests as well and as I said I would bet my balls and cock (and they are quite important to me 8) ) that the only substance present in my product is amphetamine.
Cheers !
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Okay, what do I get wrong here?
Caps Lock suggests to try 70mg, helhazz' GIRL friend used even 200mg of pure stuff. WTF! Pure amphetamine is active at about 10-20mg. Why do you take that much?
Found this and many other recommendations like that on the net:
Low: 10-15 mg (Increased focus, confidence, no pronounced euphoria) Nearly no side effects
Mild: 20-35mg (Increased focus, confidence, euphoria, "speediness") Minimal side effects, may be some insomnia
High:40-55mg (increased focus, confidence, pronounced euphoria, "speediness") Dry mouth, suppressed appetite, insomnia, possible stomach cramps
Very High: 60mg and above, from here side effects would just make things more uncomfortable and the pleasurable effects would level off
I wouldn't believe in a million years that MrFireUK's 90% batch is actually 90%, and take 20mg as recommended for the low end of a "Mild" buzz on pure Adderall, knowing you're still 10% short of that. Your dose guide above is just from some forum dude, and is for Adderall which is 100% pure amphetamine salts (63% amphetamine, due to a mixture of 4 salts), and even he suggests 35mg to start with, on pure Adderall. while he suggests 35mg will only "may be some insomnia".
When MrFire says 90%, he is *guessing* that someone has cut it with 10% of some filler. I'm sure this is way too optimistic. Anyone with a kilo of pure, isn't going to bother adding 100g, it just doesn't make sense, all that trouble cutting it and mixing it for 10% extra, it isn't worth the time. I tend to believe him when he says it's better than the old batch, and better than most speed, but that's about it.
numbering, if your test had no effect, perhaps it's true to say it isn't 100% pure speed, but the RC and MDMA claims are just pure speculation, and misinformation. Easy to see that in your post, however rumors can start like this, based on nothing at all.
So it was no good at 20mg etc, so try starting on 40mg, snorted, and maybe do 10mg more every 5 to 10 minutes until you feel something (obviously stop at 150mg or whatever! :-) ), then you can give a subjective account of whatever effects there are, and how much it took. I am interested in your next test, please. The 70mg suggestion was for sniffing, and the 200mg was oral. There is a big difference that you missed there, your ROA is very important.
Sorry, I had around 200mg of MrFireUK's old batch tonight, and that is the reason I am going on and on and on, like a crazy OCD person. I have edited this post a load of times, and it is quite entertaining with this in the background music [ http://www.mixcloud.com/Sassanix/trance-voices-2/ ] :-)
Hey, it's MrFireUK. How about stocking some speed in the UK for some domestic? I don't like TOO many international deliveries. I need some more speed.
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Hey guys ,
just read the rumor about my speed being an RC or something .. numbering I'm really sorry about your experience and to be honest can't explain it but I would bet my balls that this is nothing but amphetamine - two dutch customers are going to send it to a testing lab and will post the results - if there is ANY other chemical in it I will stop vending on here - yes I am that certain.
I have used different reagent tests and they only proved what I already knew - no MDMA , just good ol' amphetamine. As I said I don't know how you came to this conclusion but please stop spreading false rumors. Please get a reagent test yourself and check it out. I'm really looking forward to those lab tests and those will show that your assumption is completely off mate.
I'm sure mueslix is going to use reagent tests as well and as I said I would bet my balls and cock (and they are quite important to me 8) ) that the only substance present in my product is amphetamine.
Cheers !
Hi
I've had a couple of doses of your speed, 30mg and 60mg on 2 separate occasions and didn't feel much. I put this down to not being that experienced with speed and hammering coke over the past week.
When I get a chance I will post reagents pictures tomorrow and guzzle a 100mg dose
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Well I have been enjoying the new batch from MrFireUK Super fast shipping and well packaged. Loved every part of it except not buying enough the first time. Definitely not MDMA or RC at lest that I have tried. They make me generally sick in some way except MDA or MDMA although too much can bring some nausea for me. I would think that the light burn and stuffy nose part does indicate some cut and the drain taste also indicates lactose or other similiar sugar type cut perhaps. Not so much salty as alot of European speed. Still I like the buzz quality and duration and overall the taswte is much better then I have had. I do tend to sensitivity to amp and relatives for a fat dude. I still do nice fat 40 -50 mg lines since I want to get the effects I want. If after a hour I am not where I want to be I bump in 20 mg more or if it is not even close do a bump on both sides for even drains...lol. Sick if you are think too deep but weirdly enjoyable nonetheless.
Still waiting for BoyMasters new batch but getting up my fnnds before the big holiday push.
Peace and Great Vibes Be safe and have some fun its the Weekend
Hilly
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Okay, I'll try a lot more next time and will report, BUT BM's got me tweaking with 30mg. Something is very strange here.
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Hey guys ,
just read the rumor about my speed being an RC or something .. numbering I'm really sorry about your experience and to be honest can't explain it but I would bet my balls that this is nothing but amphetamine - two dutch customers are going to send it to a testing lab and will post the results - if there is ANY other chemical in it I will stop vending on here - yes I am that certain.
I have used different reagent tests and they only proved what I already knew - no MDMA , just good ol' amphetamine. As I said I don't know how you came to this conclusion but please stop spreading false rumors. Please get a reagent test yourself and check it out. I'm really looking forward to those lab tests and those will show that your assumption is completely off mate.
I'm sure mueslix is going to use reagent tests as well and as I said I would bet my balls and cock (and they are quite important to me 8) ) that the only substance present in my product is amphetamine.
Cheers !
I been eyeing your coke - thinking its pricey but its also UK to UK and you seem pretty sure of quality and purity of prodfucts.
I like that froma vendor, in fact, I kind of expect it but Mr FureUK promising to cut off his dick is a sign that maybe I ought to grab a gram of the coke!
Thanks man.
Too many bastards in RL messing with drugs - we want the drug WE want - not some added extra RC shit.On SR vendors who sell RCs for coke or speed are not going to last long. Too many experienced users who spend a lot of money on their little wkend chill out.
I actually threw away the washed coke off some UK vendor - about 160mg or so - washed with alcohol also - but I never trusted that coke and the vendor, the coke was a disgrace as the wash almost made it disappeared. Ripped off. The vendor I never named and I am not bitching because I bought coke labelled as 'good uk street coke' which translates as 'shit coke'.
Anyhow Mr Fire, I do not do speed anymore but if you stand by the quality of the coke like you do the speed then maybe its time to swoop next week!
Laters.
Red.
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Err... hate to do that, but my findings kinda fall in line with the experiences of mrFireUk's new batch posted here...those less stellar ones. For something that was supposed to be at least twice as strong as the original old batch, not to mention 3x as strong IIRC was advertised, this ain't anything better than lets say a mild improvement, if I'd have to GUESS, maybe 30~50% more powerful.
Not saying it isn't amph. -> that I leave to the testing guys with regent kits and labs/test centers nearby...but I've went as far as to push its consumption onto some of my friends who speed extremely infrequently and here are the results:
- the fat dude [160kg] I've personally measured him 200mg for oral consumption...he popped the cap at 8PM - just asked him and he's still having some effects 2AM [increased drive, energy, socializing needs, decreased fatigue, wants to party hard lol] typical for speed yeah, but the dosage was pretty huge...he approves though ~ personal rating *7 out of 10* but newbs such as him can't tell better, gotta take his opinion with a grain of salt...if he would have had something clean in his life before, im sure the outcome of his rating would be different now
*NOTE: he had pretty much almost the same effects on the same dosage of mrFireUk's old batch...though maybe slightly lower on intensity
- the other dude [90kg] I also precisely measured 100mg for a nasal shot as well as for myself, cut it up, made two lines, we both snorted it, burnt slightly...had some fun shortly after ~ his rating *4 out of 10* but I KNOW his nose craved for crystal ...sucker has some experience, and meth being in his top charts as #1 to compare to
*NOTE: I wanted to screw this dude by measuring him a nasty high dosage - knowing that I have some tolerance, he shouldn't have any, as his substance use is kept to minimum ...wanted to see him tweaked hard, AND tell him shortly after that the stuff I carry around ain't crap...seeing him unimpressed I refrained from trying to brag... heh
I, as a relatively frequent user, am also unimpressed...but the tolerance, although very mild, is definitely there... so my judgement carries little weight.
Interestingly enough, knowing that the package has arrived home, I've had the last stone of BM's old stock... which I always had close to me...crushed up and snorted, somewhere around 11AM @work...that was superb, just like I remembered it, the rush was so much more intense and carried me onward with zero unwanted effects. Its weight was no more than 80mg, and for whatever reason burnt as fuckk.
So, back to mrFireUk's new batch, I wouldn't rate it more than *5 out of 10* either, and I think im being kind cuz I like this vendor dude...the improvement compared to the old stock is obviously there, by exactly how much? I have no idea...but the fact is, Im personally having problems getting anything out of it, that would be worth the - super advertisement, and the increased price...Had much better stuff before, and its hard to get anywhere lower on the quality scale anymore...too bad BM's new batch has all those logistics problems [in transit for over a week?]...hasn't arrived yet and Im dying to try it and compare it to everything so far!
*note: im not closing the chapter just yet, I want to put mrFireUk's arrived new batch and the BM's currently in transit new batch, up to a subjective but extensive testing session with as much folks I can get, hope they won't munch away much :D will be back
Thanks!
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Wow, I'm loving this thread........to the onlooker I'd say there is some good speed going around with the novel length posts. Well, I have sampled CC's today, received MrFire's new batch, and recently had NBOME's I can recap. Also, Don't ask me how but I have a bit of interest in neurotransmitters and particularly our dopamine & serotonin friends.
@numbering: When you mentioned SSRI's/psychotropics haven't worked for you, I am assuming you took them for depression (common symptom for gene mutation methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase (MTHFR)). If that is true you may have a genetic variant that afflicts 10-15% of the general population that lacks the right enzyme (metabolize folic acid more efficiently) that converts folic acid we eat into levomefolic acid, which plays a key role in producing new neurotransmitters. Your symptoms sound plausible, particularly if psychotropic drugs 'don't work for you.' I posted some literature a while back describing my findings, but nobody read it......no offense taken. There is hope for you though, you just need to take the active metabolite that is already converted (levomefolic or also known as l methylfolate) instead of the pro-drug folic acid or also called folate.
Some drug companies (And druggies :o) are doing some really good research into it and of course they offer the expensive, but proven to work, version like "Deplin." Hopefully you don't live in the US where we have the worst health care system in the world and you live in any other industrialized country in the entire world.....you can probably get it prescribed without going bankrupt. They have patients that have tried all of the SSRI's with zero effects and then start them on this Deplin and the SSRI's work perfectly. Of course I have taken all this info and turned it into my own drug regimen/recreation. Give it a try, it appears to be the safest drug/supplement on the planet so nothing to lose. If it works, let me know and since I'm in the US you will have to pay me 1000 USD an hour....but I have evolved and only take BTC now ;)
easy read reference *clearnet* http://www.deplin.com/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Levomefolic_acid&printable=yes
Also, do you take benzo's regularly? They definitely effect psychotropics and have very long half lives........maybe look at any other drug to interaction. ::)
If your name is numbering and you just skipped the last paragraph, go back ???
As you can see from my post CC's shit is really only described by the cliche ---> fire! I previously posted all my objective findings on CC's product; they all showed high quality amphetamine----same or slightly less good as MrFire's today. Finally got to sample it today. Took Muslix's advice and railed 30mg about 8 hours ago and within 5 minutes I felt immediately awake/alert/elevated mood, but not euphoric. Side note it burned a bit and the drip tasted horrible (I'd describe as 60 year old vagina juice). I remember why I don't snort amp. Waited about 30 minutes and then decided what the hell and took another 50mg orally on an empty stomach and drank with a whole glass of water. At a normal time for me to feel adderall, I felt/feel very happy, IQ up 20-30 points, and intermittently very euphoric. No anxiety, sweaty palms, shakiness (I get with caffeine) but my brain was spinning out a bit too fast. I probably would have been better suited with just 50-60mg total oral only for the day. To give a comparison, it felt similar to 130mg of German Express' amp or 40mg of adderall (like cc's better) ;D 80mg of CC's is similar to 110-120 of NBOME's, which is also very clean and apparently I wasn't supposed to dry it out all the way before taking. Could I actually lose potency?
I received MrFire's new speed today. Obviously don't want to cross contaminate, so I will have to wait to taste. The shipping time was a little slow, but everything has been for a few months now. Packaging was stealth, but not what I personally would have done. Although, I'd feel safe to order again and it is good to mix it up with a variety of packaging types. As soon as I removed the vac seal I got a big whiff of "speed like" odor, but it quickly dissipated and now can only smell with my nose to the bag. The dry-moist not wet or sticky white homogenous powder is what I was expecting.
Immediately weighed it out, twice actually because it was short, and the weight was 1.5% short....not a big deal. Sometimes that is a good sign because whoever put it in there wanted to conserve the "gold."
Performed Marquis reagent first. Best reaction yet (Even compared to my Vyvanse and CC's yesterday and NBOME's) immediate strong bright/dark mix of orange ------> ****phetamine like substance ;D
Second did a Simon's reagent and did not get any color----------->amphetamine. If it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, tastes like a duck and reagents like a duck then it is Amphetamine. I will eat my words if I try it tomorrow (yea, tolerance but can't wait!) and it is not amazing.
I thought it was a beautiful site when I had nothing but 100% rating on my orders list and they were all amphetamine vendors......didn't think I'd see it ever. Word to the vendors.........now is not the time to be slow or dick around, because people are getting multiple orders from various vendors and you want your product to utilize their fresh dopamine receptors first.....I predict "quality" reports to go down as we ride this fucking 90's Deutchland like speed bender. :P :P :P
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F*ck me! BoyMaster and CapeCrusader just arrived. Exciting times 8)
Packaging on both items was pretty average. Strong smell on BM's stuff... Can't really tell how it smells exactly (my nose is blocked) but there is a strong smell, that's one thing I noticed. More details will follow.
I'll report back later -- still need some recovery time before I'll take these babies for a test drive.
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I've ordered amph two times from FireUk and been happy with it.
It is definitely not MDMA, wtf? It might be a RC i'm not aware of... if it is, then god damn! It's definitely worth the money because it's been the best speed I've had on the SR yet.
I remember starting with 60-70mg orally and it worked great! I never really liked snorting speed. It just doesn't hit me the right way and doesn't last very long. To the people who didn't get any effects from FireUks speed should try and dose orally. I personally find this ROA more effective.
I dosed almost daily for some heavy duty study sessions and was up to 120mg. Remember that tolerance builds very quickly with amphetamines.
Also remember that vendor's claims of 90% purity is probably false, although Fire's speed is definitely one of the purest around. Just something to keep in mind when trying to figure out the correct dosages. (Probably the reason why people haven't been getting any effects off of 20-30mg)
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who came up with the this MDMA thing ? its a nonsense...who in his right mind would cut amph with mdma, LOL...the margins are insanely better right where MDMA is used so I don't understand why would anyone cut speed with it, besides obtaining sassafras oil is much more difficult than speed precursors...
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Nobody said the stuff could be MDMA. That's ridiculous. But there are various RCs which have very similar effects like speed but are based on serotonine. Serotonergic drugs do not work for me and that was the reason for my posts.
But it's probably just my fucked up brain chemistry.
caffeine_me, thank you very much for those advises. Will test them :)
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I'm just wondering if helhazz ended up in the hospital with his lady. Definitely I wouldn't sleep for two days with such a high dose...
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Hi guys,
I have taken SSRIs the last 3.5 years, currently I am tapering off Effexor (Venlafaxine). Just like numbering I am not (or very weirdly) reacting to any kind of Serotonin-based drug. I tried a red defqon (mdma, supposedly about 200mg) from here in June, I had some mdma-like visuals, got very hot, but no euphoria or love that I remember from 10 years ago. Doing a fair amount of Modafinil, which works great combined with SSRIs, drink a shitload of coffee and do amphetamine whenever I can, which is not really that often. Venlafaxine is also a PhenylEthylAmine (like Amphetamines) and could up my tolerance regarding speed (actually I am pretty sure it does).
müslix was kind enough to forward me some of his sample from CapeCrusader. I have picked it up yesterday and decided to give it a try today. I am mostly lurking here, just don't have the time to get involved much. He asked to post my opinion. I got the plastic baggy with a tiny amount of off-white powder. At first I thought it was some kind of joke, but once decompressed (using a credit card to make as fine a powder as possible) it had 4 times the volume. My scale is broken so I couldn't weigh anything and decided to just bomb all at once as I knew how much it was in total. Been about 90min ago and I am buzzing really nice by now, didn't expect that. It hit after about 30min, I got a bit sweaty and physically active, running in circles in my apartment. Now I have a very dry mouth, am very concentrated and have the usual restless leg syndrome. Accompanied by a pretty nice mood lift, I hardly ever get euphoric on Speed, could be because of the SNRI or it's not enough yet. Really enjoying this right now. I am just noticing that my hands are very steady, not shaking and I get these very nice goose-bump-waves when the music hits the right note. müslix asked not to post dosages, so I won't but given my reaction to that amount I would place an order for sure.
Usually if Serotonin-based substances are involved I get some unpleasant side-effects, I already had some unfunny experiences with speed being sold here, so I am rather careful when it comes to picking a vendor and I let my lab-rat müslix pre-test first ;D we have the same 'taste' in speed, everything he really liked I did too and it produced no serotonin side-effects. CapeCrusader's sample doesn't create any of those side-effect also and I would characterize it as a rather clean experience too, just as advertised. I have not tested MrFireUK's previous batches, but I'm willing to give it a try if müslix forwards me something. I am fairly certain I will notice any serotogenic component in there, if there is any.
We've always taken speed in bombs of around 1/4 gm up to 1/2 depending on quality. Any less.in our opinion .just wouldn't give the strong physical buzz.,heightened pleasure sensations. extremely horny tweaks, loss of inhibitions and a complete lack of morals . .. It's a Sex and party thing .We've never had any unpleasant side effects.Apart from being totally fucked for the next day or so,.due to partying all night. The effects you quoted sound like they're from someone that's never taken speed..Even when first doing Amp in 80's 1/4g was the normal initial dose.
Stone me if you want, but I agree. For me there's 2 speed-usecases: first is the low-dose, working, getting-things-done usecase and second is exactly what helhazz mentioned, the party & sex usecase 8) Especially if you are on an SSRI the right dose of speed helps to completely restore your sex drive, which is totally awesome if you know how much the medication induced sexual dysfunction sucks.
@müslix So sorry to hear about your disappointment but there are some serious logistics problems when you have to ship 40+ orders in one day. Yeah I did read your message and told the shipment boy to send your package as soon as possible but maybe he missed it or something. So I'm not able to tell you if the package was shipped on Friday or Monday.
Hope that you all understand that it's pretty hard to do everything perfect in this business as communication is reduced to a minimum, it must go through a safe way and every movement has to be studied to not raise suspicion. I've suffered delays buying at ebay, amazon or even Dell...perfection doesn't exist...come on.
I've known müslix for quite a while and, if your speed is as good as the last one, his disappointment will end about 20min after his first line :) Chatted with him on Thursday and he was pretty pissed, looks like he had a couple of orders 'failing' and had to reorganize it last minute. He put a lot of faith in you and frankly so do I. I am only gonna order if he tells me it's good and I think there's a couple of more people that rely on him.
Don't take it personally, but take the objective criticism (which is: improve your logistics and your ETAs), it looks like no one else is willing to give you some. I know this from work: if you repeatedly miss your announced release-dates, or promise/agree to something and then don't deliver people will get disappointed, that's a natural reaction. You can't out-argue that. Plus if I'd do that at work I probably get fired haha, but then again it's not exactly the same line of work :)
@MrFireUK: I am the one who figured out what was wrong with the encrypted message, I can explain in depth if interested but the quickfix if this error happens again: Change or leave out the character in the *original* message at the position mentioned in the errormsg and encrypt again. Or tell the other guy to only use English chars.
In this particular case problem was an Umlaut ÄÖÜ which your program tried to decrypt from ASCII to Unicode (UTF8), hence the UTF-error. Shouldn't be a problem if the locales are correct, but since you appear to be from uk that's whats messed it up. In a nutshell.
Fuck me, by now I am really digging this stuff. Thanks CapeCrusader! I really hope Boymaster's speed is as good or even better 8) I'm starting to get excited!
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So - I am here to ask if anyone here has bought/used/liked or disliked dexafetamine sulphate tablets, 5mg, Auden McKenzie pharm company.
Though I swore not to use speed again, these are 5mg and pharm and actual prescription not some generic copy.
5mg seems like it would be ok to pop one, or two? Would it supplement a bit of coke also?
Is it those in the white-green box? I know them. I'd take them all but that's just me. 5mg seems low to me, usually they come in 10mg, no? And dex is different, needs less. Ask one of the professors!
No Coke! Ruins speed and vice versa. Speed and coke are the only two drugs I (can) do.
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I got 2g of BM’s new batch today ;D
Ordered on the Wednesday with Express delivery, it was marked in transit on the Friday, but my package also had a stamp on it saying the 22nd, there was no other kind of stamp on it so I do think it was only posted then.
The packaging was the normal good quality vacuum sealed style I have seen with other SR vendors, so happy with that.
I didn’t take it out of the baggie to weigh it and it came in at 2.4g. Not sure how much weight the bag can add, but I would think it’s at least on weight, probably a little over?
It crumbles into a powder easily and has a strong chemical smell (could smell it as soon as I took it out of the vac seal) and is off white/cream in colour.
I have no tolerance currently so did a small line (eyeballed but definitely under 50mg) with very little burn :)
I had LSD last night and didn’t get the most restful sleep in the world, but after that line I’m feeling energetic and focused, though not feeling the euphoria. I will do another small line in a bit to see how things change.
The only other speed I have had from SR is MrFireUK’s old batch so unfortunately can’t compare to either his new batch or BM’s old batch, however this is definitely stronger than MrFireUK's old batch and I am impressed with it, it is a shame the delivery wasn’t fast but given the demand for the new batch I think it’s quite understandable.
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I'm just wondering if helhazz ended up in the hospital with his lady. Definitely I wouldn't sleep for two days with such a high dose...
Not a chance. Both still alive and well...Up all night partying
And... I think we got the dosage spot on for our taste... 8)
We had to have a couple more bumps to get through Saturday and used MrFire by mistake, so no chance to compare them now....
Only Just starting to come down after 28hrs and still tweaking !! No unpleasant comedowns though, just feeling slightly fucked...not unexpected
Got to take a couple of weeks off now to get my tolerance back down to something like a normal level.
Sampling 3 different amps over the last week may be unhealthy and a little excessive, but It's been lots of phet filled fun.....And in my seriously impaired judgement, Cape Crusader gets the Gold Star....no idea who came second....i blame the drugs... :o....Fuck, still wide awake
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I tried for Fire Uks´s new Speed for the last 4 days, and to be honest i am a bit dissapointed. It´s better than his last batch. But i still need to take about 350g oral, about 2- 3 times a day, although i have a little bit tolerance. I´m awake and having no bad side effects, but no euphoria or feeling really active. To me it seems heavily cut , but the main substance is definitely Speed, no RC or anything like that. Not nearly as good as BM last batch.
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Maybe his shipping guy is a selective scammer? Something is very strange here.
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Maybe his shipping guy is a selective scammer? Something is very strange here.
I honestly don't know why a few customers (a very small minority though) are not really satisfied with the product while most others simply love it but I trust my 'shipping guy' .. he's way more than that. We've known each other for a long time and I know that he would never do this .. it also would not make any sense at all to steal a few grams here and there .. he's getting paid very well.
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anyone do a head to head comparison w/boymaster and fireuk?? also wondering about amphetamine degradation--double bagged and tin foil in the freezer wouldn't lose much potency over a year or so would it??
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Well when its hot it is hot and on. I am loving it what a good weekend. OLdAmsterdam and BoyMaster bringing it fast. Well OldAmsterdam had a great sample offering I just could not resist. It was wet and thank god it was vacuum sealed since it leaked a bit. Had that same lovely smell I am liking. Hard to say about weight but will check when i can.
BoyMaster Muy Bien Mucho Gracias From the post mark impressive arrive time to US. Dry and that lovely smell as soon as you pierce the vac bag. I think of it as more essence then solvent or chemical. The weight looks pretty fat and the amp dry. Very tasty on both end of the chubby trial line I can not reliably review at this point since I am so polluted by so many flavors now over the last few days. Really flying from the line though. Love the taste of the drain. Well tolerance is insane so a hard landing will be coming for me the next week or so. But clutching some prize gear and rounding up BTC before the run ends.
Peace, Be Safe, and Have Fun
Hilly
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Maybe his shipping guy is a selective scammer? Something is very strange here.
I honestly don't know why a few customers (a very small minority though) are not really satisfied with the product while most others simply love it but I trust my 'shipping guy' .. he's way more than that. We've known each other for a long time and I know that he would never do this .. it also would not make any sense at all to steal a few grams here and there .. he's getting paid very well.
dunno... but aren't the UK to UK shipments handled from UK and the rest of the world covered by shipments from Germany? you've got 2 identical listings up for each item, based on which region is the customer from...right? is the source of the amph. in both cases the same? etc.
somethings not quite right for me either, just like numbering suggested, but hey... I can be wrong...never had these kinds of problems with classy clean amphs from various sources, SR or not...
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I think MrFireUK has been an excellent vendor to deal with. I haven't read the thread for a while as I was happy with the product.. although I am requiring now 70mg doses or so orally and I only use every 3 days or so. Railing I don't enjoy much as it messes my nose up (even if I snort some water to claer it out later) and the effects just seem a bit random then. I did think that the new batch seemed exactly the same as the sample batch, but that could be in my head of course.
I do redose quite a bit/frequently.. but I don't stay up and binge at all. It seems for me before I start losing the positive frame of mind it takes about 2.5 hours.
I was suspecting that perhaps it's not 90%. I have not tried BM's new stuff just been sticking to FireUK. Even if it's lower than 90% (I suspect it is, now that everyone else perhaps says so)
I can pretty much guarantee it's not some kind of RC cut or something. I have tried a wide range of RC stimulants and I would recognize it. If it's cut it's jut with dextrose I guess or something that doesn't cause any effects.
I really enjoy it and it has helped me a lot socially.
Although one thing I have noticed is that there is no dick shrinkage, and I've yet to feel particularly horny but the aspects I truly look for are there.. Sometimes I have slightly dilated pupils, other times not..
However, if this is not amphetamine sulfate in whatever purity I'd be fucking amazed.
Here's a fun suggestion:
How about MrFire / BM sample each others batches :)
or at least if someone has had both let me know!
Anyhow I can definitely recommend MrFIREUK stuff with 5/5. The only other decent speed I had was BM's _OLD BATCH_ 72% and it seemed just a tad little weaker than this but I couldn't quite catch the same moodlift.
I could try BM's new batch but Fire's stuff is working so I don't have a reason to switch up yet. I would be intereste to see lab reports and reviews from people (muslix?) who've had both of the new batches.
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It could be 4MA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Methylamphetamine
These studies showed that 4-methylamphetamine is much more potent at elevating serotonin (~18 x baseline) relative to dopamine (~5 x baseline)
WARNING: pure speculation.
Drug testing centers are currently warning that this substance is found more frequently in speed samples.
Well, allow me to rebut that speculation. There's no 4-methylamphetamine in this. I don't believe it is 90%, I just can't but I do believe it's purely amphetamine sulfate as the active substance (or at least some desirable amphetamine racemic- however it is low on the horniness factor). I feel absolutely no serotonergic activity. I have tried the 4-fma 4-fa's etc and it's nothing like those.
It would blow my mind if I am wrong. I look forward to your assessment of BM's and MrFIRE's stuff though.
Someone else mentioned they don't get crazy heart jitter etc and I agree, it is much more gentle on the cardiovascular system- I think it's clean as can be no caffeine/ephedrine shit at all. I tried the OldAmsterdam stuff which had caffeine in it and that would make me quite anxious due to the caffeine. This does not make me anxious at all, but rather acts more of an anxiolytic and then I come down- feel a tiny little bummed out but also sleepy- but I do take a sleep aid of diazepam. Tonight I will try to use phenibut as a sleep aid instead, see if that works too (despite there being some strange dopaminergic activity on phenibut- it is a gaba-b agonist that gives me super crazy sleep REM and restful sleep. Might be smart to cycle the GABA-A and B agonists every now and then. Although with phenibut it is a way quicker onset of dependency so I would not use it more than once week (feels heavy on kidneys too). Then again I haven't tried it's efficiency, i will now.
I did take phenibut pre- using BM's OLD BATCH and it seemed to kind of mute the effects so I doubt it's quite unresearched dopaminergic activity will cause pro-longed inability to sleep.
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The Second place got OLDAMSTERDAM. He´s got straight powerful speed on oil Base. It´s getting yellow after drying. The Purity with 72% is alright. The different to MrFire is the price. It´s cheap for that great quality.
OldAmserdam got also the best quality/price ratio.
Thanks for the review.
MrFire's is apparently dry already, but OldAmsterdam's feedback says his needs to be dried, though, right? 10g -> ~5.6g, apparently...
Oh yes that´s right. This Feedback of 10g was mine.
I ordered 100G with with the condition he send 100g dry out or 130 Wet.
He gave me the choise an i want the 100dry Sure.
The Problems start. Package arrives very fast an stealth. But is was the same Wet Paste. I asked him whats going on. he answers maybe i switched the envelopes "I put 112g DRY in your Bag.
Okay. I dryed them out and the final weight was about 50-50g. This oil Base Stuff needs ultra long time for drying and lost ans lost weight.. Fuck. After many message Traffic. He do make a reship about the loss weight. Hope they arrived soon as possible. The Quality is very strong. Nothing for Noobs
He should be drying all. I gave 5/5 for my 5,6/10g order. The Quality make the compensation. Order guys gets scream and cry about 8/5/10g and gave 1/5
Greeting
Old Amsterdam is a very friendly and helpful Vendor.
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I am still up and running from that CapeCrusader bomb at about 2pm. I don't use benzos anymore and I won't touch them ever again, so I might be up for quite a while. chamomile tea did not help! what goes up must come down, might as well take it like a man.
@ohnoes123: I believe müslix posted that because the warning is currently everywhere. I am only a casual speed user, mostly do coke, but even I have seen it multiple times now (newsletter, homepages, clubs, facebook, everywhere).
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Yes and it will be good to know for sure from a labtest but I unless 4-Methylamphetamine is near identical to amphetamine sulfate or racemics then there's no way this has any of that in it.
It has no serotonergic properties that I CAN IDENTIFY (subjective). Anything sertonergic will make me unable to orgasm. On this things function as normal. I don't feel that serotonin burnout either the day after or the heavier crash it gives.
appreciate the warning though.
I imagine aakoven, discountdrugs, aspirantcooper et al would sell that kind of shit.. actually DD would probably not bother.. since all he ships is some crappy caffeine powder/dextrose bathed in solvent. Scamming cunts.
I WOULD love to try BM's new batch and CapeCrusader stuff to compare.
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@ohnoes123: yes I understood :) no need to scream at me :) müslix has not received his order yet, he was only speculating, as stated. he kindly forwarded me a small amount of CapeCrusader's Speed which was and still is very nice! I hope he let's me test the other two as well, I take an SNRI and will very likely detect any Serotonin activity. But I can only test on weekends.
He should be drying all. I gave 5/5 for my 5,6/10g order. The Quality make the compensation.
I am no Speed Expert, but this sounds like no good deal to me. Ordering 100g and getting 50g in the end, very strange. Prof Speed told me that wet speed = bad speed, because the wet stuff is used to cut the Speed and add weight, nothing else. Have not compared prices, but doesn't sound good to me. I'm also the kind of person who spends extra bucks for more quality. From my experience, in the end this is always the better option.
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You have to try the Speed pills from arigolo (Canada)
Very good for the price. I buy 20 ones. that about 3€/pill.
Very very long time effect. But not so strong unlike you snort very good speed.
I eat one of them on the Breakfast and the day is beautiful.
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He should be drying all. I gave 5/5 for my 5,6/10g order. The Quality make the compensation.
I am no Speed Expert, but this sounds like no good deal to me. Ordering 100g and getting 50g in the end, very strange. Prof Speed told me that wet speed = bad speed, because the wet stuff is used to cut the Speed and add weight, nothing else. Have not compared prices, but doesn't sound good to me. I'm also the kind of person who spends extra bucks for more quality. From my experience, in the end this is always the better option.
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I´m not a chemical but i think every speed (oil base or sulphat base) is wet at first. If the Vendor fix this problem and only send dry stuff out then we got a Vendor with the best Quality/price ratio.
He send the rest after. But the time for the email transfer, plus the stress I could blasting.
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Quick review of MrFireUK’s old batch (currently sells uncut speed).
DELIVERY: 5 days in EU (priority)
PACKAGE: Professional in every way. You can give it to you mother and she wouldn’t be suspicious ;) Even if she had a dog.
COMMUNICATION: Fast and friendly
PRODUCT: (Said to be 60 %) First impression – Not that much but still better than average street speed. Clumpy (slighty wet), nice smell. Doesn’t hurt much when snorting.
I have no tolerance at all. I did two lines (matchstick size, is it something like 25mg?). After 20 minutes I feel it, but nothing special. So after 50 min I have to grab a beer, put music on and do some more ;)
After one hour and 5 matchstick lines (125mg?) I feel OK, would like to chill out, listen to music and drink beer. I don’t have any need to clean my house or whatsoever.
I’ve ordered BM’s uncut and will also try MrFireUK’s new batch.
I need more music and more beer.
~Q~
I got 20 lines from 2g, so my matchsticks are quite big.. ;) All gone. Hopefully BM's stuff will arrive soon.
~Q~
EDIT: Now after experience of BoyMaster's pure stuff, I can say that this MrFireUK's stuff had lots caffeine in it, because I got horrible heartbeats. With BM's stuff there were no such things. I did 0,7g of Fire's in 5 hours. Same with BM's--> could be fatal.
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I have been reading this thread for a while and my god people, we're repeating ourselves. müslix was so kind to be very smart and to inform us about a lot of things about speed.
PURE Amphetamine at room temperature is a liquid that WILL evaporate very quickly AND REACT with the air. The ONLY way humans can even CONSUME amphetamine is when it is converted to a salt - amphetamine sulfate. The MOST pure thing you will ever stuff up your nose is amphetamine sulfate. IF it is WET, you got RIPPED OFF.
I'm gonna go ahead and back up MrFireUK's new batch. I do not agree with all the negative reviews I've read now. First of all shipping is super fast.
SECOND, I DO believe very strongly that it's around 90%. BM's old batch was 70%. My regular does of his old batch is 90mg, which would be around 62mg if it was pure. That makes sense with my tolerance and the dose I would take with 98% pure speed.
NOTE: My dose with no tolerance and pure speed was 40mg to get me anywhere. 50mg was a lot for with no tolerance. Now with a STRONG tolerance 60mg is okay, but also kind of a lot.
PER MILLIGRAM is MrFireUK's A LOT PURER. That doesn't mean that the effects are going to be more pronounced or stronger or that you'll be higher from a lower dose.
BM's old batch was cut with lactose. That doesn't have any psychoactive effects. That means any peripheral effects were from amphetamine. If you removed the lactose from BM's old batch you'd have the SAME THING as MrFireUK's NEW batch.
The ONLY difference in effects between the two is that MrFireUK's seems cleaner, and again, I would GUESS it because it's slightly more dextroamphetamine. Still racemic, just a higher ratio of the dex in it.
NOTE: That DOESN'T mean it isn't speed. It is.
The theory that it was MDMA was by numbering, quickly disproved by ME because I mean really? Do I really have to give a reason for this? Just read my old post, I already said everything about that there. Besides no one else thought it was MDMA either.
Also I noticed that the first few lines of MrFireUK's are painless. It's paradise. But after a few fat lines, you'd get a similar stuffy nose like with BM's old batch. That's the 10% building up.
Friday night was pretty cool. I still have a bit of BM's old batch. I took 90mg at 5am, then 90mg at 4pm, then a few bumps around 5pm, then 50mg around 9pm. I needed it, hadn't slept a second, and I SLEEP A LOT even on speed. Had a few friends over at around 10. We had MrFireUK's new stuff. I had a tiny line I didn't weigh and licked the powder out of the baggie it came in. At around 10pm my friends were there and they wanted to get fuuucked up. To them speed is a party drug. They kept cutting lines that I thought were pretty big given the purity: about the size of a toothpick. They kept giving me some coz they thought it was nice that I was giving them speed, and it was my house anyway.
We were doing those size lines until about 2.30am in the night. By then I had a lot of fucking speed in my body. I'm used to it tho.
I went to sleep around 3am but my friends stayed up. Apparently Saturday my one friend said he had done so much he was completely unfocused and so high he couldn't think straight. My other friend was okay until around noon Saturday, and we planned to meet again Saturday night. They came over again and she was having a HORRIBLE crash, like I've never seen anything like it, I've never crashed that hard. My first friend was so fucking high I could not talk to him about anything serious.
(I feel fine tho don't worry about me)
SO FAIR WARNING: Don't try this. Don't underestimate the strength MrFireUK's stuff just coz it feels smoother, especially when you don't have a crazy junkie doing-speed-everyday-to-feel-normal tolerance like me.
In comparison to BM's old batch (10/10 for me, 70% for the right price) I'd ALSO give MrFireUK's new batch a 10/10. I wouldn't ask for better.
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I am 13 hours into MrFire's new speed with a full day of getting shit down including a great work out; heart rate was very easy to control. It is very good, so good (And tolerance from cc's yesterday) I was in rare form by re-dosing (20mg three times?) Started the day with 60mg oral then ~hour later 20mg, even better but not quite there and another repeat 20 two hours later that kept me in the pocket for an additional 4 hours steady. At first sign of a descent I took a last dose of 20mg six hours ago and now winding down. Took half of a lunesta type and it will be more than enough to sleep in an hour or so. No apparent side-effects.
I should have waited a couple of days to really give these a comparison, but I have had taken adderall and vyvanse regularly in the past so I know what to expect/asses physiologically for me. One way to look at this is dosing-purity & price to see who wins in my book.
My top vendor list goes like this (These are very close)
1. Cape Crusader: the 20mg nasal and immediate 60mg oral with no tolerance probably had something to do with him being top dog. Closest pharm equivalent would be adderall.
2. MrFire: I'm not sure how many people have tried Adderall and Vyvanse and Dexedrine, but I like each of them for similarities but more important their differences. MrFire's is closest related to vyvanse, which is my most functional amphetamine. Clear mined, easy to interact with others, calm, and with higher doses get the euphoria.
3. NBOME: I still have to try the oily version, since drying it out all the way isn't best from what I am being told. Even totally dry (took 24 hours) I ended up taking 120mg on two separate occasions and got the same good, clean, cognitive high and lasted a little less time than the previous to vendors.
I know I have a big hole in my list, but I'm in the same boat as many........hopefully soon I will be able to correct it.
Everyone's tolerance and dosing schedule is very different. For safety sake and to try to prevent an overdose because of some bad math and too pure of product I'm going to try and do a simplified equivalency chart. I am open to constructive criticism. Since I'm sure someone has tried at least one of these products. ****this doesn't replace being safe and when getting a new batch start low and go slow*****
***caffeine's subjective equivalency chart*** Usually always take orally.
My gold standard: Straight from pharmacy Adderall 1mg = 1mg (A)
Jeurgen's medical amphet-phosphate: 0.7mg (A)
CC's first batch: 0.6mg (A)
MrF's new "90%": 0.5mg (A)
NBOME's oil/base: 0.4mg (A)
German express' last batch: 0.4mg (A)
AA's (Last "best batch" I gave to the toilet): 0.001mg (A)
So if I like 30mg of adderall then I would have to, for example, take 50mg of CC's or 60mg of MrFire's (Math: vendor amount / desired adderall dose = powder pep amount to take.
Now that I have some shaky quantitative (pun intended) data, here is prices + International shipping correlated with dosage
***caffeine's price analysis for currant amphetamine vendors****
Gold Standard: reports of 1USD/1mg of adderall $30/30mg IR pill; we will call it $30/30mg IR Adderall (A)
$1.25 (A) CC's $25/1 gram or 0.025USD/milligram
no higher listed weights.....hopefully we will see those with improved price.
$2.04 (A) MrF $33.96/1 gram or 0.03396/mg
$1.23 (A) $204.70/10grams or 0.02047USD/mg
$2.18 (A) NBOME $29/1gram or 0.029/mg
$1.31 (A) $245/14 grams or 0.0175/mg
$4.93 (A) Jeurg Med ~$115/1gram or 0.115/mg
*****(A) Boy $39.85/1 gram (Priority)
$257.05/10 grams (Priority)
hope to update later
Currently with MrFire with some weight and ready to ship, I currently am giving him a buy recommend......but this is dependent on your particular needs. Really except for the over priced pharma, and jeurgen's medical I don't think you could go wrong with any of the above.
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The Sample offer is now ->
0.5g cocaine +2g MDMA +2g Hash + 1 g Speed for 70$ !
Come get it ! We need more honest reviews !
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I did a Marquis & Simon's Reagent test, which looked as good as my Vyvanse control test. Brilliant orange on the Marq. and almost no reaction to the Simon's which indicates no methamphetamine.
Short break from break to report awesome findings :D
I just did Marquis and Mandelin on CC's amp, holy shit. I have not yet seen a reaction like that. You had Vyvanse, I only had cut speed to compare. Real chemists correct me if I'm wrong please, but H2SO4 should turn brown when mixed with organic compounds (lactose, sugar,..). So most Marquis-results here indicating speed, are actually not indicating good speed. It always turned out dark-red-brownish. BM2.0 was a bit more on the red side. But CC... too bad I only have still pictures, the reaction didn't go to dark-red/brown but very quick and strong to bright, fiery orange red. The picture is already a couple min in, so it starts turning brown already.
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Mandelin the same, but much quicker, went from initial yellow to a very bright green to olive green. It already turned to olive:
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Hah, the pictures I used for comparison were not that correct after all :) Not even the instruction videos show such bright colors. Awesome shit! Pretty much exactly as printed on the leaflet.
If BM3.0 arrives tomorrow I try to make a video, I bet most guys never saw real amp tested (neither did I until a couple minutes ago). It's really cool 8)
Current Rating:
CC >>>>>>>>> BM2.0 >>>> GE >>>> FireUK1.0 >> {all the other crap}
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It could be 4MA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Methylamphetamine
WARNING: pure speculation.
Well, allow me to rebut that speculation. There's no 4-methylamphetamine in this. I don't believe it is 90%, I just can't but I do believe it's purely amphetamine sulfate as the active substance (or at least some desirable amphetamine racemic- however it is low on the horniness factor). I feel absolutely no serotonergic activity. I have tried the 4-fma 4-fa's etc and it's nothing like those.
It would blow my mind if I am wrong. I look forward to your assessment of BM's and MrFIRE's stuff though.
I just quickly read over this, but to make this clear: I don't have FireUK's speed yet. I responded to what it could be IF serotonergic activity was involved. The warning from the test-centers immediately came to mind. I don't have a personal opinion yet. :)
The Sample offer is now ->
0.5g cocaine +2g MDMA +2g Hash + 1 g Speed for 70$ !
Come get it ! We need more honest reviews !
Aehm, what's the deal with your speed? Can you give some more info on what this is, besides "TOP QUALITY"? What's so top about it that it costs that much?!
edit: +1 for helhazz, that's the spirit! show the newbs how it's done 8) Srsly though not recommended for not very experienced users, but I think I'm gonna do one real party-binge also :P
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The Sample offer is now ->
0.5g cocaine +2g MDMA +2g Hash + 1 g Speed for 70$ !
Come get it ! We need more honest reviews !
who (in your opinion) is a trusted member? i've read this in your description - and before asking you this in a PM - i ask you in public, because i think other members are also interested in this info
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So, today is the day... The day I finally get to sample CapeCrusader's amph. 8)
After yesterday's arrival of BM's new batch and CC's sample, I was very much content. It's nice to know that I've got enough good amph in the house that will last for quite a while. A bit over 3 grams in total, I'm guessing it will last at least 6 weeks or so. I don't usually binge so I just take smaller amounts during the course of the day and also my tolerance really isn't that high. I'd like to keep it this way, too. Proper rest and taking days off is very important to me. When I overdo it, I usually feel like shit a day or two later.
After taking some of MrFire's speed on Friday and getting a bit fucked up in the evening (too much alcohol am afraid), I really needed some proper rest yesterday. In fact, I was feeling quite ill with a blocked nose and some signs of a cold. However, today - after resting properly and getting 8+ hours of sleep, I got up quite early and was looking forward to sampling CC's stuff.
I started 3 hours ago with an oral dose of 40mg (stirred in a glas of water). I decided I've had enough of doing lines. I've always felt a bit weird about it, almost like a junkie. On top of that, my nose in general is pretty much chronically blocked, so it might not have been the best way to take speed anyway. I feel much better now taking it orally, although I don't have much experience with this way of administering. I had bombed a few times before but that was always after doing a few lines as well. So I could never feel the real and pure effects of taking speed orally.
So, after around 30 minutes after drowning my glass of speed-mixed-water, I could start to feel some subtle effects. In comparison to insufflating, the effects are building up slowly and nicely. I like it a lot. A few minutes later I knew I was on a very clean substance. A mild euphoria and mood-lifting feeling was slowly but surely building up. Around an hour into the experience I felt the urge to smoke. Anyway, that's very usual for me. I also put on some music and I now feel very good. No worries at all and quite "zoned in", simply enjoying what I was doing. I was finishing a boring task that I had postponed for weeks and it was very easy to get done with it.
When that was done, I started calling some friends and chatted for about an hour on the phone. I felt very talkative and very empathetic at the same time. That's another tendency when I'm on speed -- after the "euphoria" is slowing down a bit, I get very empathetic with people, it's like I want to bond more or become more "understanding". But enough of that. ;)
After 2 hours or so I decided to take it up a notch and bombed another 30mg. Half an hour later I could feel a mild euphoria building up again. By now I feel quite active and standing up and walking around feels pretty nice. I can also feel the hair on my skull stand up a bit, it's like a tingling sensation. I don't get this very often on speed (anymore), but this sure feels very good. I go outside again for a smoke and make some plans for the day.
I decided to share the experience I've had thus far, I also owe it to CapeCrusader -- after all he's looking for reviews of his product and I'm glad he "chose" me to sample his stuff, because it's a blast really. I think all of his reviews so far have been extremely positive. 8) I really hope he will stick around for a while and maybe up his stash a bit so that more people can experience what his potent, clean amphetamine feels like. I don't remember his prices, but I think it was pretty cheap compared to MrFire's and BM's stuff.
Oh, before I forget, the stuff has an interesting smell to it. Nothing like I've ever had. It smells a bit foul and not half as strong as BM's amph. It's not the typical chemical smell that I've gotten to know from MrFire's stuff. The consistency is slightly off-white and there are many small chunks that easily crush into a fine powder. The gram doesn't look like much, but when it's crushed up it gains some volume. I'll make sure to not binge on this stuff, I want it to last for a bit. :P
Another thing I noticed is that there isn't much of a need (or urge) to re-dose. Maybe this has to do with the form of administration and not so much with the amph itself.
Alright, that's about it for now. Maybe I'll sum up the experience later tonight when I've thoroughly reviewed and assessed this speed. Proper samples deserve proper reviews after all. :)
The Sample offer is now ->
0.5g cocaine +2g MDMA +2g Hash + 1 g Speed for 70$ !
Come get it ! We need more honest reviews !
No offense, but you really need to step it up a notch if you want to convince anyone here of your product. The current competition is stiff and people really don't need "just another speed vendor" -- there are too many crap products out there already. Also the price for your 2g listing is pretty horrendous (60$ equals almost 50€ which makes it 25€ per gram). Almost looks like you checked what other vendors are charging and decided to adjust your price to that. If this is so, you forgot that those products on the top-end of the price range are all top notch and nothing like you can find on the street.
The fact that you just stormed this thread, not even offering any purely speed samples (not that I want any samples, but I'm sure you'll find some people here who'd be willing to review your product), speaks quite some volumes. Do it like CC, MrFire and BM have done it. Offer some samples and in return receive proper reviews. But beware, people here are spoiled with very good speed, so you might not even want an honest review from some of the respected contributors, unless of course your product is in another league. :-X
Edit: Kudos for posting your test results, müslix! Always very interesting to see and informative as well.
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If BM3.0 arrives tomorrow I try to make a video, I bet most guys never saw real amp tested (neither did I until a couple minutes ago). It's really cool 8)
Current Rating:
CC >>>>>>>>> BM2.0 >>>> GE >>>> FireUK1.0 >> {all the other crap}
please update us with your findings ;) how is BM3.01785647382 :P
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Yes and it will be good to know for sure from a labtest but I unless 4-Methylamphetamine is near identical to amphetamine sulfate or racemics then there's no way this has any of that in it.
It has no serotonergic properties that I CAN IDENTIFY (subjective). Anything sertonergic will make me unable to orgasm. On this things function as normal. I don't feel that serotonin burnout either the day after or the heavier crash it gives.
appreciate the warning though.
I imagine aakoven, discountdrugs, aspirantcooper et al would sell that kind of shit.. actually DD would probably not bother.. since all he ships is some crappy caffeine powder/dextrose bathed in solvent. Scamming cunts.
I WOULD love to try BM's new batch and CapeCrusader stuff to compare.
I have to apologize for my "don't scream" reply, I just realized I completely misread your post :-[
4-MA has strong serotogenic effects and on the warning sheets it was mentioned that it's likely neurotoxic. So it shouldn't get past an experienced user unnoticed. The orgasm thing I can test :) Because of the medication I have sexual dysfunction, which only coke, speed and ritalin can fix. And maybe more dopaminergic drugs, but I stick to the ones that have proven to work.
I don't feel much of a come-down from CapeCrusader's Speed, it fades out smoothly and I am getting really tired now.
Current Rating:
CC >>>>>>>>> BM2.0 >>>> GE >>>> FireUK1.0 >> {all the other crap}
please update us with your findings ;) how is BM3.01785647382 :P
I don't compute. If anything, it should be 3.141592654, but I guess what you do not realize is that these are version numbers, so the next logical step has to be BM3.0 for his third batch. I mean no offense to you in any way shape or form, but generally speaking I find the lack of computer literacy on this forum very disturbing.
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who (in your opinion) is a trusted member? i've read this in your description - and before asking you this in a PM - i ask you in public, because i think other members are also interested in this info
Aehm, what's the deal with your speed? Can you give some more info on what this is, besides "TOP QUALITY"? What's so top about it that it costs that much?!
Thanks for your questions.
0.5g cocaine +2g MDMA +2g Hash + 1 g Speed for 70$ !
sorry if we did not make that clear ...the whole package of those 4 drugs is for 70 $ ! not only the speed!
our business is only picking up slowly so we thought we do offer some kind of "special deal" 8)
With "Trusted Members" we meant members who already bought quite some products and know how to make a review, or at least can leave more than a short comment.
We want honest reviews and older members mostly do pretty thorough reviews as this is what samples are there for.
of course your welcome to check it out if you have a buying history.
Just please all those thinking about getting a "free" ride stay away :P
What additional Information about the speed may we provide for you?
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No offense, but you really need to step it up a notch if you want to convince anyone here of your product. The current competition is stiff and people really don't need "just another speed vendor" -- there are too many crap products out there already. Also the price for your 2g listing is pretty horrendous (60$ equals almost 50€ which makes it 25€ per gram). Almost looks like you checked what other vendors are charging and decided to adjust your price to that. If this is so, you forgot that those products on the top-end of the price range are all top notch and nothing like you can find on the street.
The fact that you just stormed this thread, not even offering any purely speed samples (not that I want any samples, but I'm sure you'll find some people here who'd be willing to review your product), speaks quite some volumes. Do it like CC, MrFire and BM have done it. Offer some samples and in return receive proper reviews. But beware, people here are spoiled with very good speed, so you might not even want an honest review from some of the respected contributors, unless of course your product is in another league. :-X
No offense taken ;)
And yes we adjusted the price to what other vendors are offering. But here is also our promise that we never ever worked the street level. This is a wholesale product.So we are pretty sure we can play in the "high-end" level.
You may be right ..we "stormed the thread"...and we decided to offer "pure" Speed samples.
2g for 30$ !
Thank you for your input & your warning 8)
Cheers!
The Bungee54 Team
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Okay...im either missing smth or what, but since when are we talking about 3 batches from boymaster ?...there were only 2 IIRC -> one [the first] quite a long time ago that was sold out, and then only recently a second one...I don't remember being kidnapped by aliens and returned to earth, with time I cannot account for lol -.-
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I'll go to the testing-center in 2 days, so stop talking about RC's here.
On friday, we will know the truth ! I guess MrFireUK's phet is as good as described.
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#2000 !
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Double posting to get 2000 is just annoying. I'd give bad karma if I could.
And noo I wasn't screaming at anyone lol.
Muslix, mrfireuk stuff now is pure amphetamine for sure... but what racemic I don't know. Someone mentioned it's similar to vyanse, very sociable making you efficient and... in higher dosages euphoric? I completely agree. It does that but does not make me horny at all. I was actually in a gentlemans club playing some poker with all kinds of lingeried women coming over to me and I had absolutely zero interest.. some speed would make warm in the pants instantly. They probably thought I was gay and just there for the poker!
Anyways this is very good sociable drug. There's no anxiety at all. WIth BM old batch I could get some anxiety. So we're talking about purities and such.. 2 amphetamine sulfates which are not mixed with any other active chemical but have slightly different effects (at least for me). Obviously they will be different from different labs. I guess you just have to find the one that suits you... but I think my plan is to get the multiple clean ones and use the ones I need for flavour. For instance if I am pussyhunting then I'd like something that makes me more horny. I suspect that arigolos speed pills (supposedly have a bit of meth) in them would do this.
As a professional poker player (Which requires a really high level of thinking, attention to details and thousands of decisions per hour FireUK stuff is perfect) I'm able to comfortably play 12-14 tables instead of my usual 9 and I do it better .
But I really need to try BM new batch and CapeCrusaders stuff.
as for numbering and his criticism, I don't know what his issues are but the suggestions eh made about mrfireuk are just so outlandish and far from the MY experience that from now on I can't take anything he says seriously. I don't think he's making stuff up, we all react differently to drugs but... to go as far as sugesting it's serotonergic when ti has absolutely no such activity- I find odd/suspect. So for me his posts have no relation to anything I'll experience.
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What additional Information about the speed may we provide for you?
What is it exactly your are selling? Amphetaminesulphate, or another salt? And are you claiming that this is pure? Or of what purity is it? And is this pharma-grade Amphetamine or from clandestine manufacture?
Just a description like "top speed" and a picture that could be anything doesn't really convince me, as we have vendors here who can deliver really high grade stuff (+95%) for the same price or less.
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And noo I wasn't screaming at anyone lol.
Ignore TurnItOffAndOnAgain (and you say I have a stupid username :P), he was probably awake too long. He's working at a computer all day, so everything thats in CAPS is a threat to him. Thanks for posting though, TurnItOffAndOnAgain! It's always a pain in the ass to post how others did. And how did you get +5 karma? you cheated didn't you?!
Muslix, mrfireuk stuff now is pure amphetamine for sure... but what racemic I don't know. Someone mentioned it's similar to vyanse, very sociable making you efficient and... in higher dosages euphoric? I completely agree. It does that but does not make me horny at all. I was actually in a gentlemans club playing some poker with all kinds of lingeried women coming over to me and I had absolutely zero interest.. some speed would make warm in the pants instantly. They probably thought I was gay and just there for the poker!
I've read that speed often does not turn out exactly racemic, but a bit heavy on the levo or dextro side (citation needed). So I think this could very well be the case. What I find weird is the not being horny, this kinda always happens to me once the dosage is right. CC was no exception there. So this is kinda weird to me, but I need to test for myself. By now it's a feedback-overload and I don't know what to believe anymore, but it already has some strange 'karma' around it, hopefully it will all be gone once tested. TBH I don't think that this will reach the purity of BM (still no solid reviews?!) or especially CC. I couldn't tell 70% from 100% amp apart, really who could? but I believe CC is very high up there.
Anyways this is very good sociable drug. There's no anxiety at all. WIth BM old batch I could get some anxiety. So we're talking about purities and such.. 2 amphetamine sulfates which are not mixed with any other active chemical but have slightly different effects (at least for me). Obviously they will be different from different labs. I guess you just have to find the one that suits you..
There's this one difference: the clandestine products are probably made from P2NP, whereas the commercial speed is most likely manufactured from BMK. I don't know if this is somehow noticeable in the final product, but it could be (I guess, always wanted to find out).
@rigolo's pills: I am no big fan, as they are in my opinion mostly meth and this just isn't for me. I have tested it a couple of times now and I give up, no more wasting money in meth. If I had 1g meth and a nice dextro line, I'd choose the dextro line every single time ;)
but I think my plan is to get the multiple clean ones and use the ones I need for flavour. For instance if I am pussyhunting then I'd like something that makes me more horny.
But from my experience one good speed should do, you usually just need the right dosage for the right occasion.
But I really need to try BM new batch and CapeCrusaders stuff.
I highly suggest so, I have not read much about the new BM stuff, but I hope to get mine tomorrow. CC's gear is definitely worth checking out. I hope he can keep the quality up, haven't seen him around lately, maybe they are cooking .. dinner for us all :)
as for numbering and his criticism, I don't know what his issues are but the suggestions eh made about mrfireuk are just so outlandish and far from the MY experience that from now on I can't take anything he says seriously. I don't think he's making stuff up, we all react differently to drugs but... to go as far as sugesting it's serotonergic when ti has absolutely no such activity- I find odd/suspect. So for me his posts have no relation to anything I'll experience.
We'll see, flyerz1934 is bringing it to the DIZ if I caught that correctly, so there will be no doubt what it is anyway. No point in worrying about it right now.
Oh, before I forget, the stuff has an interesting smell to it. Nothing like I've ever had. It smells a bit foul and not half as strong as BM's amph. It's not the typical chemical smell that I've gotten to know from MrFire's stuff.
What you are smelling there is the smell of speed. This is it for real, I recognized it instantly. Everything else I recognize as solvent or 'Waschmittel', but not this. Smelled exactly right and if I am not mistaken BM's 2nd batch had a similar smell. Get used to it and ban the solvents from your brain ;)
Okay...im either missing smth or what, but since when are we talking about 3 batches from boymaster ?...there were only 2 IIRC -> one [the first] quite a long time ago that was sold out, and then only recently a second one...I don't remember being kidnapped by aliens and returned to earth, with time I cannot account for lol -.-
There were 3. I didn't have anything from the first one, that was the batch RED od'd on ;D Second batch was in early July I think, that one was sold out really quick and this is now the 3rd.
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Here is my account of trying MrFireUK's current batch.
WARNING: I am a new user with no personal experience of speed, therefore I don't expect this review to be useful to many people - skip it unless particularly interested in a new users impressions. It is more of a 'trip report' than a review since I can't really evaluate the product's quality. If this is inappropriate for this thread, let it be deleted.
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BACKGROUND
New to this drug. Have done Ritalin (methylphenidate) briefly in the past (to improve cognitive function and concentration). SSRI veteran - came off venlafaxine at the beginning of the year and taking nothing now. When I tried ethylphenidate (a legal RC) I experienced horrible side effects - severe headache, fever, nausea for several hours - and felt like I was going to die. This may just have been due to taking too much.
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THE REPORT
The first thing I noticed was the very strong smell of this drug (which has already been well documented here). I do not own a milligram scale, so I put the powder on a flat surface and divided it up by eye. I did this until I (theoretically) had a 75mg pile in front of me. However, looking at the bags of powder now I don't think I did a spectacular job - different-sized clusters of powder made it difficult to estimate volume. The powder is so fine and dry that it scatters easily too, so it's probable that the dose in front of me was significantly less than 75mg. Basically I made a bit of a hash of it and need to get some decent equipment.
I took half (~30mg or perhaps less) at 10am and the other half at about 2pm, both via insufflation.
There was absolutely no burn. I could taste the drip a little about 10 minutes later, and it was not unpleasant. Coming up was so smooth and steady I barely noticed it, I just noticed that after half an hour I felt a little spaced-out. I got a couple of boring computer-based tasks done and read for a while on the internet - while my brain was more active than usual, I felt unfocused (unlike Ritalin which allowed me to channel all my energy into a single task and gave me the motivation to progress). I didn't notice much of a mood effect, except perhaps feeling more detached from things which would normally make me worry/feel bad. The only unsolicited side-effect was a dry mouth.
I re-dosed after four hours as I could feel myself coming down a little. The itch to re-dose was strong. I then had to hold a group conversation for about 6 hours - I felt like my brain was making more connections and working faster than normal (I never ran out of things to say, could make jokes etc). The drug killed my appetite but didn't make me nauseous, so I could still eat.
I had no physical comedown symptoms but I did feel despondent/melancholy and felt strongly that I didn't like myself. Even after I could no longer feel the effects of the drug, I ended up staying awake until 4am.
The next day I got up at about 8.30am and went through the same dosing routine - everything has been the same except my mood has been quite low all day and I feel completely detached from other people.
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SUMMARY
No burn, no nasty side effects, no jitters, no anxiety/paranoia.
The drug made me think more quickly but in a rather unfocused way - it made me feel quite detached and I lacked motivation to channel my energy into anything productive.
I didn't feel any euphoria, but didn't expect to since my dose was quite low.
Killed the appetite and the comedown wasn't bad at all.
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What additional Information about the speed may we provide for you?
What is it exactly your are selling? Amphetaminesulphate, or another salt? And are you claiming that this is pure? Or of what purity is it? And is this pharma-grade Amphetamine or from clandestine manufacture?
Just a description like "top speed" and a picture that could be anything doesn't really convince me, as we have vendors here who can deliver really high grade stuff (+95%) for the same price or less.
Partly answered in our review thread.
thx!
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Best amphetamine sulfate (speed) (whizz) (fast) ????? :o
Bought some off Boymaster in Spain - very very impressed with the quality , only had a wet finger dab x 2 and was whizzing my tits off for 7-9hrs !!!
If you familiar with the adverse effects on the male ( whizz dick) as known where I live , -- My cock was poking out my ass , the reaction to the speed was that good !
But I looking for the 90's speed buzz that I have yet to find on SR - no offence Boymaster (As still will be using him )
any suggestions of a top quality vendor in the UK that has 90's type quality speed at a fair price .?
cheers guys
dendrix
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I am very curious about the lab results for MrFireUK's stuff.
The strange thing is: BM's last batch DID work for me. It also made me horny, feel good, cool rush, mood lift and so on.
Will try 80mg soon and report then.
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A friend got his package from BM on Friday, just in time for the weekend 8). I haven't had the opportunity to sample it yet but I hope (and have no reason to doubt) that BM continues to deliver quality stuff.
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What you are smelling there is the smell of speed. This is it for real, I recognized it instantly. Everything else I recognize as solvent or 'Waschmittel', but not this. Smelled exactly right and if I am not mistaken BM's 2nd batch had a similar smell. Get used to it and ban the solvents from your brain ;)
Amphetamine sulphate has no smell.
Also: Enought with the "I don't know if it's racemic or not" crap. Apart from pharmaceuticals, d-amphetamine is so exceedingly rare that any vendor who decides to go through the extra trouble of removing the levo-isomer from his product would make it very very clear in the product description. (And the price per gram would be at least double, too).
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Alright, time for a quick recap on CapeCrusader's sample (see previous page for more details).
It's extremely good amphetamine! The whole experience has been nothing but enjoyable and clean. When I say clean I mean that I barely noticed any side effects, e.g. shakiness or elevated heart rate (just slightly) or discomfort in general. I haven't eaten all day except a small breakfast before my first dose and another thing I noticed is that I had a pretty dry mouth throughout the whole day, but that really didn't bother me too much.
The effects were slowly fading away 5-6 hours after my second and final dose. I had a small urge to re-dose when I noticed the subtle come-down, but I have shown discipline, mostly because I want to get some proper rest tonight before taking on BM's speed tomorrow. 8)
Still need to sort me out some antihistamines... Really handy to have some sleeping aid just in case. Benzos I don't want to start with, because it might become a habit and habits are hard to get rid of. :-\
Thus far I can only draw a comparison to MrFire's stuff. I have to say it's a very close draw. Both products are very clean and have very similar effects on me. If I had to chose between the two, I really wouldn't know... Nice to have such a "problem". ;D
Am extremely excited to finally indulge in some of BM's stuff. It's my first time with him and considering all the hype in the past I have high expectations. Will be interesting to see whether it's in its own league altogether or whether it's on par with CC's and MrFire's amph. Expect a review either tomorrow or the day after...
Let's hear some proper feedback on BM's new batch already, you guys! ;)
Edit: @Bungee54: Well done! Hope you'll receive some proper feedback like the other vendors have.
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@valentinesmith: Did you recover from your study-marathon? Am curious how that went and what you did to recover properly... Also, can you give me some hints with regards which antihistamines I should go for? I might go to my Doctor's to get a subscription if I can't get it any other way. I just don't want to waste money on OTC stuff. Thanks :)
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Here is my account of trying MrFireUK's current batch.
WARNING: I am a new user with no personal experience of speed, therefore I don't expect this review to be useful to many people - skip it unless particularly interested in a new users impressions. It is more of a 'trip report' than a review since I can't really evaluate the product's quality. If this is inappropriate for this thread, let it be deleted.
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BACKGROUND
New to this drug. Have done Ritalin (methylphenidate) briefly in the past (to improve cognitive function and concentration). SSRI veteran - came off venlafaxine at the beginning of the year and taking nothing now. When I tried ethylphenidate (a legal RC) I experienced horrible side effects - severe headache, fever, nausea for several hours - and felt like I was going to die. This may just have been due to taking too much.
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THE REPORT
The first thing I noticed was the very strong smell of this drug (which has already been well documented here). I do not own a milligram scale, so I put the powder on a flat surface and divided it up by eye. I did this until I (theoretically) had a 75mg pile in front of me. However, looking at the bags of powder now I don't think I did a spectacular job - different-sized clusters of powder made it difficult to estimate volume. The powder is so fine and dry that it scatters easily too, so it's probable that the dose in front of me was significantly less than 75mg. Basically I made a bit of a hash of it and need to get some decent equipment.
I took half (~30mg or perhaps less) at 10am and the other half at about 2pm, both via insufflation.
There was absolutely no burn. I could taste the drip a little about 10 minutes later, and it was not unpleasant. Coming up was so smooth and steady I barely noticed it, I just noticed that after half an hour I felt a little spaced-out. I got a couple of boring computer-based tasks done and read for a while on the internet - while my brain was more active than usual, I felt unfocused (unlike Ritalin which allowed me to channel all my energy into a single task and gave me the motivation to progress). I didn't notice much of a mood effect, except perhaps feeling more detached from things which would normally make me worry/feel bad. The only unsolicited side-effect was a dry mouth.
I re-dosed after four hours as I could feel myself coming down a little. The itch to re-dose was strong. I then had to hold a group conversation for about 6 hours - I felt like my brain was making more connections and working faster than normal (I never ran out of things to say, could make jokes etc). The drug killed my appetite but didn't make me nauseous, so I could still eat.
I had no physical comedown symptoms but I did feel despondent/melancholy and felt strongly that I didn't like myself. Even after I could no longer feel the effects of the drug, I ended up staying awake until 4am.
The next day I got up at about 8.30am and went through the same dosing routine - everything has been the same except my mood has been quite low all day and I feel completely detached from other people.
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SUMMARY
No burn, no nasty side effects, no jitters, no anxiety/paranoia.
The drug made me think more quickly but in a rather unfocused way - it made me feel quite detached and I lacked motivation to channel my energy into anything productive.
I didn't feel any euphoria, but didn't expect to since my dose was quite low.
Killed the appetite and the comedown wasn't bad at all.
The post was well structured, detailed and typical of someone with a good amphetamine. I would definitely get a .001gram scale and try taking it orally only. I bet you will be happier. karma for the effort!
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Is sub lingual administration of speed less effective than swallowing it?
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Amphetamine sulphate has no smell.
Also: Enought with the "I don't know if it's racemic or not" crap. Apart from pharmaceuticals, d-amphetamine is so exceedingly rare that any vendor who decides to go through the extra trouble of removing the levo-isomer from his product would make it very very clear in the product description. (And the price per gram would be at least double, too).
I guess it shouldn't have a smell :) I am further guessing that this faint smell I am talking about (it's not like GE's gear that was smellable through two vac-sealed bags) is left from manufacture somehow and if you were to completely dry it out, CC's also has these very small waxy clumps in it, the smell would disappear. You really have to stick your nose in the bag to smell it. It's nothing like the usual street/SR speed.
Reading your statement again, yea it's not the Amphetamine sulphate that produces this smell (or Adderall would also smell like that) but the same leftovers that give it this waxy consistency. You have now reached the end of my Amphetamine chemistry knowledge :)
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Is sub lingual administration of speed less effective than swallowing it?
personally I don't think so, I did that a lot with Adderall and Ritalin. I bit on them and then let the crushed parts melt under my tongue. My worry always was that this could be bad for my teeth though. I got somewhat paranoid with the mouth wash :)
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As predicted, BM arrived 8)
Came with a small extra, haven't weighed it yet, but I think it will totally make up for the price spike. Not gonna spoil it, but the sticker made me smile :)
Consistency is similar to CC, but it's not white, it's more yellow-ish/beige. When I opened it, I got hit by another wave of familiar 'speed-smell' again different then CC, but I also associate this to speed. I just looked up 'Waschmittel" -> Laundry detergent, or washing powder on wikipedia and now I am totally confused what is what ;D Now that it's been at the air it smells different again, slightly UHU-ish. Similar consistency as CC's amp, builds these chunks when compressed and can be cut with a credit card to powder again. CC's does look cleaner, pretty much like what was shown on the picture. Never judge a book by it's cover though.
First things first, I bombed a 'tiny' amount and will report findings.
For the guys with blocked noses, you should wash it every now and then with water and table/rock salt (NaCl). Usually snorting water or chlorine water is very unpleasant, but after adding NaCl this stingy feeling disappears. I do this a lot when I have a cold, cleans and frees the nose.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasensp%C3%BClung
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_douche
You don't need any special instrument, just a plastic pot, stick your face in and breath the water through the nose. I know it sounds ugly, but with saltwater it isn't.
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I usually just refill a nasal spay container with self-made saline solution (Himalaya salt + volvic + heat^^). And I always use the right hole of my nose, in case its blocked I just lay down on the left side couple of minutes and I can snort again :). Personally I prefer nasal consumption, as I get a little unpleasant feeling in my stomach from oral consumption.. and its cheaper :P
Apart from that I guess BM's stuff has arrived by now, but it took too long and I am now on holiday, so he has to wait to get his money another week.
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As predicted, BM arrived 8)
Came with a small extra, haven't weighed it yet, but I think it will totally make up for the price spike. Not gonna spoil it, but the sticker made me smile :)
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First things first, I bombed a 'tiny' amount and will report findings.
Cool. :) How does it feel thus far? After sampling CC's amph yesterday I went to bed quite late (as expected) but much to my surprise I fell asleep within a few minutes. Unfortunately the sleep didn't last too long -- 3 hours later I found myself wide awake, feeling my heart beating fast and I just couldn't manage to fall asleep anymore. So I got up extremely early and made myself some breakfast.
I had already made plans to try BM's speed today for the first time. So, an hour after breakfast, I had my speed-enriched glas of water and minutes later it hit me like a truck already. I was completely amped up and started to clean the apartment and bustled about like a maniac. This strong urge to *do* something lasted for maybe 30-45 minutes. Afterwards I sat down and browsed the net. The strong initial effects were now slowly fading away, but I was content nonetheless -- elevated mood. Considering I had only gotten 3 hours of sleep I felt pretty refreshed and awake. Approx. 2 hours after the initial rush I re-dosed (~40mg), but that didn't have the same strong effects that it had on me initially.
I think I should have taken a break for a day or two before speeding again. The whole experience is distorted due to the lack of sleep and due to having taken very clean amphetamine the day before. I also noticed that I still had dilated pupils after I got up this morning. Clearly, I was still under the influence of CC's speed. :P
Anyways, right now I'm feeling very relaxed and content. I had planned on working at home today, but my mind and body say otherwise. Looks like I'll be going outside and catch some sunshine.
I'll be taking a break for a few days and then I'll come back and reassess BM's speed -- this time under proper conditions. Am looking forward to reading more reviews though. ;)
For the guys with blocked noses, you should wash it every now and then with water and table/rock salt (NaCl). Usually snorting water or chlorine water is very unpleasant, but after adding NaCl this stingy feeling disappears. I do this a lot when I have a cold, cleans and frees the nose.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasensp%C3%BClung
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_douche
You don't need any special instrument, just a plastic pot, stick your face in and breath the water through the nose. I know it sounds ugly, but with saltwater it isn't.
@müslix: Ya, actually I was reading up on this procedure as well and even wanted to try it out, but I couldn't find any NaCl around here. Maybe I'll grab some today. The thought of a "fresh nose" is very appealing. However, I think the days of snorting are over for me, give or take a few exceptions. 8)
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I am about 2hrs in by now. Very clean coming up, no caffeine-ish side effects at all, very pleasant. I just made it through a full plate of vegetable rice, it was a pretty tough endeavor but I made it all the way through! I was bombing on an almost empty stomach, I had a very slight sense of stomach irritation, nothing I'd usually worry about, but I better stock up on my antacids. Now that I've eaten I feel much better. I was not blown away (yet) because I chose the same dosage I started last time with CC to make it comparable.
The high feels more physical to me than CC's, but not necessarily stronger (this could also be set/setting, placebo or just my mood). I already can't feel my feet, I have goose-bumby-ish sensations, had slight initial euphoria which transformed into a solid moodlift, so I am pretty happy by now. I also feel very social, most of my friends are working, so I post in 3 online-social-somethings at once 8) I also have the recently often mentioned dick-shrinkage (is this the scientific/medical term? ;D ) with a bit of increase in hornyness. Usually if I do non-working kind of dosages, once a dose hits peak and it's not where I want it to be yet, I get this almost automatic urge to redose which I have to overcome. Didn't happen here. I am not over the top high, but it's pretty pleasant and I don't feel like redosing at all. I had this with CC, but I always have this when I think I might run out soon, so it's partly psychological. I am slightly sweaty, heartbeat is in range and I have the usual restless leg syndrome.
So far very enjoyable! I think it has better mood-lifting properties than CC's, but that could also be because my starting mood was better to begin with. The effects are slightly different though, I am sure both are high-quality amp, it's hard to put in words but CC felt physically cleaner/lighter. But I do really like BM's gear, I was 'craving' that stuff for almost 2 months now, so I am totally loving it. I don't know what to attribute those changes to, but I don't think it's all Placebo. I remember reading in one of those forensic papers cleveland steamer posted (I think it was there, I'll have a look later), that depending on the manufacture the amphetamine might not always be exactly racemic (50:50), but can be off a little, but I don't know by how much. Maybe this can be at play here, but I am totally speculating. BM, CC, valentinesmith ... can anyone verify or refute this thesis?
@peterpan: you realize NaCl = Koch-/Speisesalz? (cooking salt) :) If you really don't have any, I suggest taking a walk, there's a lot of restaurants with street side gardens, where one can 'borrow' such things 8)
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The high feels more physical to me than CC's, but not necessarily stronger (this could also be set/setting, placebo or just my mood).
This is exactly my experience also. Of course this is a highly subjective feeling. I'll see whether this still holds true for me when I take BM's stuff for another spin towards the end of the week.
I have a feeling that one's general mood and mental/physical condition, before taking speed (and various other drugs for that matter), has more to do with the impact of the effects than one might be aware of. It's easy to get disappointed when one feels like shit and thinks speed will miraculously bring about waves of euphoria. Imo, there are better drugs for seeking sensations of happiness.
@peterpan: you realize NaCl = Koch-/Speisesalz? (cooking salt) :) If you really don't have any, I suggest taking a walk, there's a lot of restaurants with street side gardens, where one can 'borrow' such things 8)
Actually, from what I read, saline solution is being used if I'm not mistaken. But anyways, I'll go to my pharmacy now and see what they have to offer. I wanted to check for antihistamines anyway.
On another note: I just checked the time and I wonder what the hell I've been doing for the past 5 or so hours. :P Time flies by...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saline_solution
In medicine, saline (also saline solution) is a general phrase referring to a sterile solution of sodium chloride (NaCl, more commonly known as salt) in water. -> rock salt + water :) (although probably not sterile)
but I was also wondering what saline meant. If you still go to the pharmacy, it might be a good idea to get one of those nasal inhalers. My method of snorting saltwater is effective but a bit cumbersome.
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Oh my... Don't try this at home! :P
I think this saline (whatever) stuff came pouring out all over the place except the other nostril. Must have looked hilarious. ;D
This is what I bought: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-_yEqweQ-o
Pumping the saline solution up my nostril felt really strange at first and didn't work well at all. I must have been too stupid to do it right. But the second run actually worked well, although it's a very odd feeling I tell ya. At some point it was running down my throat as well, bah... I prefer the taste of amphetamine dripping down my throat rather than this salty solution. :)
Anyways, to get back on topic... BM's stuff is really nice I have to say. I don't really feel a come-down yet at all. My mood is still as elevated as it was when I started this session. But again, for a proper evaluation and cross-comparison I need to start over again in a few days with a "clean sheet" and proper rest. So far I'm really impressed. Looks like BM has once again raised the bar. ;)
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Hi guys!
I've read the reports about the Vendor " oldamsterdam ".
He has no PGPKey - what can this mean? it should be no problem to create a key with android.
is he a fake or maybe from the police? or just a good reputable seller?
It all sounds so good, very cheap samples for try, 100 % Refund if the quality was not convincing.
I'm a little irritated, because i want order speed & mdma, But then I read the reports here that the quality is not as high as described,
which he has no pgp key. what do you think? serious or dangerous?
His prices are very good. Does anyone have good experiences made with larger quantities
thanx for your posts!
best regards,
pete
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ajajjaaa surprise surprise... the first day in almost 2 weeks I did not made a phonecall back home as to whether a package arrived... guess what, da man comes home and a spaaaanish package is awaiting him luxuriously on the table hohohoo...today wasn't a bad day at all, but this has made me even happier :) thanks BM, Im by no means gay but im starting to adore you hahahah
- aaa almost forgot, NOT to mention the small kiddie bonus with the very snobbish sticker, I mean i know the price was high ::) but surely nobody expected that...nice touch, appreciate it highly!
At first, I did not have even the slightest intentions to as much as spit on SR forums today, but fuck me, after the first line...half of it blown away by my damn sneeze...and 10 minutes of preparation to "get out somewhere" I suddenly just want to post! Nobody really gives a fuck, since the BM's newest batch reports are popping up or will start to... like mushrooms after a rain, but hey, why not...after all, I do it because I can 8)
Today's morning started off with a oral administration of 100mg mrFireUk's amph. around 9:30AM and it carried me along till approx 1~2PM afternoon, and I swear I was clean during the weekend! So even tough today's amph dosage has been exceeded, I just couldn't resist BM's package and its contents!!!!
So, i'll edit later I guess heheh, unless I end up being too horny and fucking the night away, just like I did a week ago ::)...
****Summary and characteristics:****
~weight:::: 80kg
~conditions:::: well rested, properly fed and nourished, have not had phet for 2.8 days unless you count today morning, in which case its a straight 2
~others:::: young, energetic, generally healthy, no undesirable mental conditions, simply put -> still full of life :P
~phet. looks and feel:::: soft, almost un-noticeably humid chunks of powder with a slightly yellowish tint, strange how every package or batch I get... no matter if same vendor or not, has its distinctive and unique smell, haven't had 2 with identical aromas uuuuuuuu :-*
T+ 00:00 (dose: 40~42mg insuff.) - after everything measured and checked out with the contents, not aware about any deviations from the claimed weight just yet, I left the packs open and will RE-measure in a day. I chose the most sympathetic chunks [not yet rocks]...and the display shows 70mg...am cutting the hell away from them, like a mad man for a gooood while, formed a line and then comes the sneeze ....THE CARPET ATE ~30mg :'( fuck it, maybe better this way, re-measuring shows 40~42mg left, oh well... rolling the euro into a pipe and bang, wtf almost no burn!? Gotta miss that from the previous batch.
T+ 00:15 - clearly up to something, feel the motivation struck me but not too aggressively, i'll be late just a little bit, everybody can wait can't they? ;D...I gotta write this!
T+ 00:30 (dose: + 40mg insuff.) - wrote that much...should suffice heheh...but first things first, I gotta make up for the peoples depressed mood I figure...I am late and guessing some won't be happy. A perfect way to do that, is to be creative and cheerful, funny, outgoing, you know...lets maximize the effect ;D choosing some more chunks of phet. adding them onto the scale, attempting to settle for a 40mg once more...done, quickly cut, cut, cut the shit yaay... rolling the moneyz....bang! im done, cyaz later :D
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noooooo.
my penis has shrunk????
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@valentinesmith: Did you recover from your study-marathon? Am curious how that went and what you did to recover properly... Also, can you give me some hints with regards which antihistamines I should go for? I might go to my Doctor's to get a subscription if I can't get it any other way. I just don't want to waste money on OTC stuff. Thanks :)
I didn't experience much of a comedown other than a few days of slight fatigue, so in that sense I had a very speedy (HAH!) recovery. The only significant downside is that I now have a ridiculously high amphetamine tolerance that will probably take months or longer to return to normal, even though I'm not taking any, but I can live with that.
I'm by no means an expert on antihistamines, but I'm a big fan of propiomazine. Unfortunately it's not very common and might not be available in your country. If you can't get propiomazine I'd recommend asking for promethazine instead. It's actually OTC in many countries (according to wikipedia). By the way, the sedative action of all antihistamines I've tried is greatly potentiated by GABA-ergic drugs -- I prefer a glass of nice red wine :).
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Any aussies had any luck lately?
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Checking back in for a moment.
BM's Batch III (-> the return of the king? /cheesy movie reference) has some serious strength. Very noticeable physical effects, a lot of socializing and a high boost in motivation to get shit done. In my opinion it's stronger than CC's, which lacked the intensity of the physical effects, so maybe BM only appears stronger, but it does a damn good job at it. Don't get me wrong, I really liked CC's amp because it was so clean and less physically 'demanding'. But there's definitely a difference between those two. I'd compare it to indica vs. sativa, both THC but still feel different. No idea where this comes from, but I doubt that changing the levo:dextro ratio by a few percent points would do that. Guess it comes down to personal preference, I now agree with ohnoes (I think it was him) to get both and use the one that's currently more appropriate.
edit: please read above paragraph carefully. I am not saying either one is better or pure (I am no lab :) ), just that they act differently. BM's physical effects > CC's, but CC is much cleaner, very easy to focus on. Comedown from CC wasn't all that unpleasant, after that physical BM ride I expect quite some crash. More details will follow. Rmember I was high as fuck when writing this haha ;D
I'm extremely curious what is causing this, I have always noticed slight variations in effects and attributed those to the manufacturing type and the precursor being used. I usually mentioned those as 'slightly heavy on the dextro/levo side', as I know dextroamphetamine/dexedrine and I have read about a not exact d:l ratio before (I hope it wasn't just some weird forum post ;D ) and again somewhere in c-steamers links. Would be kinda embarrassing if I had this wrong the whole time, lol :P But now we have some nicely isolated examples, so I'll try to do some research in the name of science! and try to disprove myself. or not. we'll see.
first I have some tweaking to do, bbl 8)
edit: new or low-tolerance users be careful with those two. I'm guessing BM could do some more harm due to the physical effects, don't underestimate either of those products. I gave a small line to a pretty new user and while it was funny to watch her and she became way less annoying, I think I dosed it borderline enjoyable. Funny sidenote: instead of a simple 'thanks' I initially got a 'that doesn't look/smell/feel like speed, are you sure this is speed?' in return. 30mins later she was convinced, think that girl was never that high on speed before :P
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I'm by no means an expert on antihistamines, but I'm a big fan of propiomazine. Unfortunately it's not very common and might not be available in your country. If you can't get propiomazine I'd recommend asking for promethazine instead. It's actually OTC in many countries (according to wikipedia). By the way, the sedative action of all antihistamines I've tried is greatly potentiated by GABA-ergic drugs -- I prefer a glass of nice red wine :).
Thanks for the answer. :) Ya, propiomazine isn't available here at all from what I understand. Promethazine won't be easy to get either, unless I get a prescription for it. But I found two other antihistamines, one of them is Benadryl and another one sold by Kirkland Signature. Both contain 25mg of Diphenhydramin HCI. I might try one of them just to see if it helps.
I gather that frequent use isn't exactly healthy, so I'll be very careful with this stuff. I'll remember your recommendation to add a glass of red wine to the mix. ;)
No speed for me today. ::)
@müslix: Keep us posted on your findings!
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It could be 4MA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Methylamphetamine
WARNING: pure speculation.
Well, allow me to rebut that speculation. There's no 4-methylamphetamine in this. I don't believe it is 90%, I just can't but I do believe it's purely amphetamine sulfate as the active substance (or at least some desirable amphetamine racemic- however it is low on the horniness factor). I feel absolutely no serotonergic activity. I have tried the 4-fma 4-fa's etc and it's nothing like those.
It would blow my mind if I am wrong. I look forward to your assessment of BM's and MrFIRE's stuff though.
I just quickly read over this, but to make this clear: I don't have FireUK's speed yet. I responded to what it could be IF serotonergic activity was involved. The warning from the test-centers immediately came to mind. I don't have a personal opinion yet. :)
The Sample offer is now ->
0.5g cocaine +2g MDMA +2g Hash + 1 g Speed for 70$ !
Come get it ! We need more honest reviews !
Aehm, what's the deal with your speed? Can you give some more info on what this is, besides "TOP QUALITY"? What's so top about it that it costs that much?!
edit: +1 for helhazz, that's the spirit! show the newbs how it's done 8) Srsly though not recommended for not very experienced users, but I think I'm gonna do one real party-binge also :P
Thanx muslix, Lot's of fun and I recommend the party binge with a willing immoral playmate. (NEWBS, DO NOT TRY THIS)...If you're going to do it, do it properly . ;D Really got to leave it alone now though, just wasting good amp chasing the buzz....i think I've become immune dammit.
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I'm extremely curious what is causing this, I have always noticed slight variations in effects and attributed those to the manufacturing type and the precursor being used. I usually mentioned those as 'slightly heavy on the dextro/levo side', as I know dextroamphetamine/dexedrine and I have read about a not exact d:l ratio before (I hope it wasn't just some weird forum post ;D ) and again somewhere in c-steamers links. Would be kinda embarrassing if I had this wrong the whole time, lol :P But now we have some nicely isolated examples, so I'll try to do some research in the name of science! and try to disprove myself. or not. we'll see.
findings have been found. I was thinking in mathematical terms, apparently chemists know real maths only from afar, so they can state that a compound with a d/l isomer ratio of 0.9 (1.0 would be d and l in exact same amounts) is still racemic. The clearest explanation I was able to find was in [1] a paper on Analytical Toxicology from the Oxford Journals. It's stated in the abstract already, but I suggest if interested to look at the results and conclusion section (Table 1), not much to read. The paper is about the treatment of amp-addicts with dexedrine, to check up on them they tested their urine and analyzed it's l/d isomer ratio. If they used street speed it obviously changes since l-amp is added. At the end they analyzed 17 street speed samples that were used, the mean purity is 21.4% and the standard deviation is 19.4% (guess aakoven provided some samples there :P).
Most important part, the l/d isomer ratio of the analyzed (illicit!) powders: ratio has a mean of 0.892 (89.2%) and a standard deviation of 0.051 (5.1%)! So I was correct about speed being heavy on either isomer side and it's much more than I initially thought.
This means one speed sample could have a l/d ratio of 0.85, therefore being 15% off from a true racemic compound (in the l direction) and the next sample could be also 15% off in the d-direction. Resulting in an absolute difference of 0.3 (30%)!! in the worstcase scenario. So unless someone finds an error, I pick up my old, now kinda proven, theory and make weird claims with it as usual 8)
Forensic Science is pretty fascinating, a lot of info from EU drugtrade and manufacturing to amphetamine synthesis and how they can tell from the impurities not only what precursor was used, but also what route was used and therefore generating something like a fingerprint for a batch/chemist. CSI Silkroad, totally awesome. I don't want to repeat some of the things I read, as to not start rumors, so if you want to look into it, search with keywords: amphetamine, sulphate, racemic, chiral, isomer, ratio. Then just go forward using the most interesting references as usual.
That was kinda fun :)
[1] http://jat.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/223.full.pdf
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I went to the testingcenter today, I brought them his latest batch and his older one. I'll get the results on friday. I post the results with a If it's possible to upload a photo, I'll do it. ( don't know the uploadsite ).
8)
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I went to the testingcenter today, I brought them his latest batch and his older one. I'll get the results on friday. I post the results with a If it's possible to upload a photo, I'll do it. ( don't know the uploadsite ).
Onion Image Uploader: http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/
Are you testing at the DIZ? I am in one of your neighboring countries, but I read on their homepage that they are rather strict regarding their tests. Like one sample per person, mandatory drug counseling and max once per xy weeks.
Got FireUK today, didn't touch it yet, need some sleep. Smells awful. Yet another smell that's new :) CC got by far the most pleasant smell and appearance. As in: this is what I would have expected from AmpSO4.
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I went to the testingcenter today, I brought them his latest batch and his older one. I'll get the results on friday. I post the results with a If it's possible to upload a photo, I'll do it. ( don't know the uploadsite ).
Onion Image Uploader: http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/
Are you testing at the DIZ? I am in one of your neighboring countries, but I read on their homepage that they are rather strict regarding their tests. Like one sample per person, mandatory drug counseling and max once per xy weeks.
Got FireUK today, didn't touch it yet, need some sleep. Smells awful. Yet another smell that's new :) CC got by far the most pleasant smell and appearance. As in: this is what I would have expected from AmpSO4.
Would be nice if you could test it tomorrow? :)
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hello, I just wanted let everyone know that we are back from 'vacantion'
Had issues with factory supplier.
Now we are back, with exact same quality speed pills, different logo but very high same quality.
Thank you.
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BM's Batch III (-> the return of the king? /cheesy movie reference) has some serious strength. Very noticeable physical effects, a lot of socializing and a high boost in motivation to get shit done. In my opinion it's stronger than CC's, which lacked the intensity of the physical effects, so maybe BM only appears stronger, but it does a damn good job at it. Don't get me wrong, I really liked CC's amp because it was so clean and less physically 'demanding'. But there's definitely a difference between those two. I'd compare it to indica vs. sativa, both THC but still feel different. No idea where this comes from, but I doubt that changing the levo:dextro ratio by a few percent points would do that. Guess it comes down to personal preference, I now agree with ohnoes (I think it was him) to get both and use the one that's currently more appropriate.
guize, please. I was high. I was on quite some amount of BM when I wrote that. Something like 3-4x of what I initially took of CC. I was doing party dosages from BM's speed, because I have enough. The comparison regarding strength was about the physical effects. Yes, BM is stronger there no doubt. Has it's up and downsides. (more to come)
Thanks for your attention.
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I went to the testingcenter today, I brought them his latest batch and his older one. I'll get the results on friday. I post the results with a If it's possible to upload a photo, I'll do it. ( don't know the uploadsite ).
Onion Image Uploader: http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/
Are you testing at the DIZ? I am in one of your neighboring countries, but I read on their homepage that they are rather strict regarding their tests. Like one sample per person, mandatory drug counseling and max once per xy weeks.
Got FireUK today, didn't touch it yet, need some sleep. Smells awful. Yet another smell that's new :) CC got by far the most pleasant smell and appearance. As in: this is what I would have expected from AmpSO4.
Thanks.
Yes I did. I went there with a friend.. One sample per person but it's allowed every week. We were so fucking nervous, because we were definitely the youngest people who walked in to the office.
The vacuumsealer burned a bit plastic away from the zipper I think, that's the reason why it smells like this.
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Yesterday I experienced the downside of the strong physical BM effects, I had those muscle twitches you usually get when you are stretching and hit peak-stretch level. And I had this pain/cramps/muscular tension in my lower abdomen which makes it hard to pee. Not so pleasant anymore, With CC I had none of that.
Does anyone know what to do about that? I remember Mg could help, lots of fluids, but the only thing that really always effectively helps are small amounts of benzos.
Have some slight business-ish things to worry about today, so I'll do a more normal dose of BM, should give a good comparison regarding CC. party dosages VS. everyday dosages don't compare.
Gonna mail our test-center about that d/l-isomer ratio thing and the perceived differences in speed. Dunno why I didn't come up with that earlier, they should be able to confirm if those diffs are really because of the ratio.
Did anyone test FireUK with Marquis yet?! What were the results? Thanks.
edit: does anyone know what happened to ct2012/13 and cleveland steamer? I know they could be on vacation, but I talked to both a bit in private and they just disappeared :X
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As someone asked about orders being underweight: I actually almost never repack them. So I guesstimate the baggy weight and judge from there: CC-Sample was generously overweight, BM was pretty much spot on, maybe +/- some 10mg, but not much and not noteworthy. FireUK definitely underweight (if you're reading this, I honestly don't care about a few mg, just mentioning it since I also thought it's interesting to follow up on).
Some more observations about appearance:
CC: I did look into what AmpSO4 should look like and it's pretty much like that. It's snowwhite, but still has a bit of this waxy consistency, that makes it easy to compress and 'explodes' in volume once you cut it up again with a card.
BM: pretty similar to CC and the last batch. It's way more off-white/beige and it's overall much coarser than CC.
FireUK: not like the above, more crystal-ish, didn't notice any of the waxyness, smells really gross, not like the cleaning powder solvent from the last batch, this is unlike anything I've ever smelled. Can't stick my nose in there for too long.
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Based on personal experience, who would you guys recommend as the best speed, quality, rather then price. I've heard that Aakoven is worth skipping. I recall hearing that OldAmsterdam is good and was looking at his potentially but would like to hear more personal anecdotes
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Vendor :OldAmsterdam
Drugs:5gram Dutch SPEED **High grade 72+%**
Quality:Very good
shipping:Fast & Steahlty
Very good vendor, with perfect quality product
used it at a party and didn't get drunk :)
sniffed a few times from my bullet and i like it. ( friends also )
when i use little sniffs, with a lot of alcohol, i can get to sleep, but when i snore a few big ones i'm awake and full of energy ....
My favorite vendor
see you next time when i need new .
greetz
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Based on personal experience, who would you guys recommend as the best speed, quality, rather then price. I've heard that Aakoven is worth skipping. I recall hearing that OldAmsterdam is good and was looking at his potentially but would like to hear more personal anecdotes
If you read the last few pages, you will see the top quality are: BoyMaster, MrFireUK, and CapeCrusader (currently out of stock).
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@ jackintherox: I have more stock.. Listings go up tomorrow or Friday..
Thanks
CC
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Awesome, I will be placing an order! I love the variety we have on SR right now. It seems it comes in waves on here, I am loving riding this current wave!
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I will, too ;D 8)
Based on my sample I'd highly recommend it especially to the people who bought BM and want to check out what these speed differences are that were mentioned earlier. Multiple theories emerging by now :)
One might think that all those physical effects sound awesome (and they are for partying - CC has yet to be consumed in partying dosages), but it takes a noticeable strain on your body. Right now I'd switch to that clean speed in a heartbeat. BM's makes me currently more 'confused', starting doing things, start the next, start the next,... put my phone in the fridge for no reason. CCs cleaned out all the fog in my brain and let me focus.
I can imagine that one might prefer CC or BM for subjective reasons, I personally want both (don't know how a nice binge will feel with CC, with BM it's pretty awesome) and would probably switch between them.
From my experience so far, I believe CC will do better if you need to concentrate/work/study BMs could be a bit too distracting. BM's gives a nice body high with lots of goose bumps and nice euphoria when doing party dosages. With CC I still need to try that.
It's safe to say, based on the products I received, that CC & BM have the best speed on SR or anywhere I could buy some. I am sorry to say, but there's nothing that gets close to those. (FireUK seems to be again subjectively liked or not. even though there might be variations in effects, if someone likes Amphetamine he will like CC & BM, maybe prefer one over the other. But since there's already people who like Amphetamine and dislike FireUK's batches, it can't be as good.)
This is my personal subjective opinion based on the last batches of each vendor I received. Imho: if you want best possible quality then you have to check them out.
wohoo, stayed on topic for the whole post :P
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Today I received the MrFireUK package I ordered, little underweight but not that big of a deal for me.
Tested it and have to say I am not *really* that impressed, my last speed use was 5 days ago so tolerance shouldn't be too high either.
It's not bad stuff of course, but just expected more of it :)
Good to see CC going online with more stuff, I missed out on the initial sale (or samples) but reading back the thread it looks very yummy yummy indeed. Going to order from him to test it out :D
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Today I received the MrFireUK package I ordered, little underweight but not that big of a deal for me.
Tested it and have to say I am not *really* that impressed, my last speed use was 5 days ago so tolerance shouldn't be too high either.
It's not bad stuff of course, but just expected more of it :)
Good to see CC going online with more stuff, I missed out on the initial sale (or samples) but reading back the thread it looks very yummy yummy indeed. Going to order from him to test it out :D
Don't want to quote your post in MrFireUK's thread, but.......
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But?
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But?
My 5g speed arrived :) Within 4 days after in transit. It was a little underweight tho, but not by a lot. (4.6g instead of 5)
What I can tell from this cheeky line I just did it's really good gear :D
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Hiya! Long time lurker... I read this thread most days just generally had nothing tho say.
Just got a 2g bag from MrFireUK
been burniing candle at both ends
will update properly after a sleep
greets to all who frequent this thread! :}
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But?
My 5g speed arrived :) Within 4 days after in transit. It was a little underweight tho, but not by a lot. (4.6g instead of 5)
What I can tell from this cheeky line I just did it's really good gear :D
Ah lol yes, well the MrFireUK thread comment was posted like 3min after I snorted it and the comment here was posted a little while later when it turned out not to be *that* good..
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Speed from OldAmsterdam(99) is very nice.... High quality....and pretty fast delivery. Recommended vendor.
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Not sure what to think of all these newbies posting about OldAmsterdam... ::)
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Boymaster's stuff is definitely a real deal. Just tested it. Any idea why it is so brown-ish? And uh, quite a strong smell.
Thumbs up! This is good.
~Q~
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Boymaster's stuff is definitely a real deal. Just tested it. Any idea why it is so brown-ish? And uh, quite a strong smell.
Thumbs up! This is good.
~Q~
Depends on the synthesis used I guess. The color of BM's last batch (orange-like) was pretty much fitting the colors shown
here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/29100750/Amphetamine-Sulphate-Synthesis
and here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/59694589/Amphetamine-Synthese
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There are quite a lot of information on scripd regarding amph in case someone is bored :) study's and shit:
this title sounds interesting for müslix, haven't read it though^^ http://www.scribd.com/doc/59750733/Stereospecific-synthesis-of-amphetamines
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Not sure what to think of all these newbies posting about OldAmsterdam... ::)
It seems really sketchy to me, and it happens almost daily. Should we report this? I mean, no other vendor has newbies reporting positive reviews everyday...something is clearly fishy with this...
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BM-update: Two days BM party-dosageing, pretty amazing for parties. Next day workday-dosageing, turned out about 2x that. 4th day now, I am physically exhausted.Was a lot of fun, but gonna end it per today with some weed, few benzos and a nice AH stack. Gonna take a couple days off now, then test workday-dosage again. This really is some serious shit. New users: be careful when dosing this and everyone be careful when giving lines away, I almost let a test-dummy OD (at least that was what she looked like). Everything fine after 20-30mins, she was high as fuck. But I was really worried there for 15 mins, euphoria was kicking in petty soon. After like 45mins she started loving it. Not the most responsible thing I ever did, learn from the shit I do and give only to those who know about their tolerance, else be overly cautious. My lessons learned.
Good to see CC going online with more stuff, I missed out on the initial sale (or samples) but reading back the thread it looks very yummy yummy indeed. Going to order from him to test it out :D
I'm getting some more also, I'm really interested in your experience esp. regarding the mostly clean effects. Just read a PM from another dutch buyer who also used 'clean' to describe it You might know who, but not gonna give away more. He will or will not post his experience himself. But this is not a psychological or Placebo thing from me, it's really present. A lot of users are puzzled as to why this is, so am I of course. It also had the very best Marquis and Mandelin reacions I ever saw.
Gonna stop now with the comparisons and wait until I have new CC amp, gonna do the same thing I did with BM Monday and Tuesday (party-dosageing). I was very high and dosed, redosing whenever the fuck I wanted and how much I wanted. Didn't do that with CC's because it was 'just' a sample. Did only daytime dosages, where I could sleep on at night (though I used some benzos).
Any idea why it is so brown-ish? And uh, quite a strong smell.
I believe ti's cut with smack, hence the brown :P Seriously: I read yesterday in paper that color/consistency can be used as an indicator of pureness when testing AmpSO4. white - best, yellow - medium, brown - mediocre. Something like that. Keep in mind though that all are still up in the 90+%.
Not sure what to think of all these newbies posting about OldAmsterdam... ::)
He's been doing this, since he started here. I doubt reporting would do any good. Just ignore, that would probably hurt this approach. Posting good review of high quality stuff and no one giving a single fuck, just downboating, should add a pretty shady feel to it.
Some more rent: He is now trying for a full month to get a PGP key. States he uses Android, so I sent him a link to a nice user-friendly app, that's even free. Took me like 5min to figure out, import a test key and encrypt a sample message. Really not much too it, I even offered help in case of troubles regarding PGP. He still doesn't get it done. Also states that because of using Android he can't upload pictures. That's some serious bullshit. Watching his reviews on SR you find every 3rd or 4th sounding really generic. Think about that what you want, I for one am not gonna order there, might confider with PGP, but as it is now, there's too much 'weird' surrounding this guy. YMMV
Where is flyer19xx? Very impatiently waiting on the results.
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Müslix, CC > BM or from whom should I order? Since I wasted some money on FireUK, I just wanna buy from ONE vendor.
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Where is flyer19xx? Very impatiently waiting on the results.
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I'm happy that you missed me, but sadly u forget my name 8).
They send me the results tomorrow between 16-18 o'clock.
At the moment, my feeling is very good.
If the results are as expected, I'll definitely order again :).
Have a nice day!
Flyerz1934 8)
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Just got my drop from BoyMaster. It's slightly yellow and smells quite strongly of 'speed'. It's a different batch from the first he had, but its' potency is on par.
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BM vs MrFireUK?
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CapeCrusader
Product: Amphetamine (sample, from what I understand different batch than early samples)
Communication: Only couple of PMs exchanged, seems like a nice person to deal with. PGP and all.
Shipping: Sent August 15th, arrived to EU August 27th. As expected.
Packaging: Looks secure, everything up to SR standard.
Weight: My scales show 0.512g. Very generous sample, makes me think orders from him will be over rather than short;)
Looks: Off-white powder. Dry. Has 'amphetamine' smell, but it's milder than MrFireUK's current 'uncut' batch.
Tolerance: living fast these past two months, I'm sure I have some tolerance by now. Around 80 hours since last amphetamine/MDMA dosage. I feel rested.
Trip report (skip three paragraphs for short version):
+T0h00m Ahh. The last experiment with oral dosing and sodium bicarbonate wasn't succesful, and I seem to prefer fast comeup, so I weight 35mg. divide it in two lines and down my nose it goes. It burns, but I'm not sure anymore how that compares to other amphetamine I tested lately. It's tolerable.
+T0h10m Nice, clean comeup. I'm feeling focused and clear-headed. This seems like a good 'work' dosage of this stuff. 35mg. only, definetely uncut.
+T0h30m I'm still good with current dose, but it's a long day ahead (and I curious), so I weight another 35mg. *SNOOOORT* Feels good man. :) Will update when I get the chance, time to do shit.
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Update 4 days later:
I had one of the best amphetamine 'trips' that day. i suspect that quality of amphetamine effects depends on mood when it's taken and how much you enjoy the things you do on it. All went well for about 8 hours, then I got stupid and instead of taking a rest tried to have some more fun. Looking back, last three re-doses were waste of amphetamine and my health. Over all I did around 250mg. of CC speed. Yeah. Unlike when I overdosed on OldAmsterdam's speed paste, my heart rate never felt uncomfortably high, but I couldn't sleep, felt dead tired and at around T30h00m I got this massive head ache.
I slept for around 10 hours after that and woke up with runny nose (probably got cold during the night), but otherwise felt pretty good. Hung around the house for a few hours and then decided I can't stop till the end of summer and my holiday. Different approach this time. Oral administration seems to last longer time (at least that's the general opinion), so once again I 'pre-loaded' with sodium bicarbonate and took 80mg. in the glass of water (yuck). I hate to wait till the effects of oral administration start, so 10minutes later snorted 20mg. and went out. Very little euphoria this time, but I did feel more sociable and awake. 3 hours later got back and smoked a joint with a friend. That felt sooooo great. Snorted another 30mg. and went out again. The high was very euphoric, I had fun socializing, listening to music and jumping around:) This lasted for 5 hours and then a gradual come-down started. Energy went away, but I still enjoyed myself and company, so I spent the rest of the night having a nice conversation. Now it's around +T12h, I think I could sleep, but browsing internet, writing this report and listening to music is very enjoyable. No physical discomfort. Shops are opening very soon, so I'll go grab some light food, juice and cigarettes and then will try to sleep and rest for this night:) 130mg. of amphetamine taken, only single re-dose 3 hours in - this works well for a full night out. NOTE TO SELF: ONE RE-DOSE PER SESSION MAX!!!
Summary: CapeCrusader's amphetamine feels clean, doesn't give jitters, heart palpitations on comedown even when overdosed. It's potent, but my tolerance is high so I won't try to compare it to the other sampled batches. I still have to try MrFireUk's current uncut batch (have a gram ready), but for now CapeCrusader is my vendor of choice. I won't be checking out BoyMaster's uncut, because of the price and looking at other reviews (thanks, guys!) I'm not missing anything magical.
Thanks for reading, hopefully this review is helpful (I admit, typing shit is fun on its own). Oh, and thanks, CapeCrusader to you, for sending me this sample.
5/5, my recommended amphetamine vendor.
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I'm needed in real life, so not much time ;D
Müslix, CC > BM or from whom should I order?
This is really a tough one, I can't answer that for myself just yet. So I'd say both :P
If you liked BM's last batch and don't want anymore 'experiments' and this is the type of amp you are looking for, then go for it. It won't last forever.
I need to test a bit more to be completely certain. I don't think you can go wrong with either one.
BobArctor does a good job summarizing (very nice review!) it.
Speculating: If you do a lot of work on speed regularly, like valentinesmith did in his marathon-session, then CC's clean amp could be the better choice due to less body-load.
Sorry for not being very helpful, but I don't really have a favorite myself yet.
BM vs MrFireUK?
That's not even a question for me. Without judging effects: BM is here now with current batch. FireUK has a pretty steady supply. If money isn't an issue, then this is a nobrainer for me.
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Ladies and Gentlemen...
Here's my awesome report about MrFireUK.
Old Batch:
It was my first time using Amphetamine. I can't say it was good or bad, everything I can say is: It's different than his new batch ( chunkier, little crystals.. ). So I went to the testing-center and today I finally received the Results. His OLD Batch isn't the same as described, maybe his ''postman'' scammed me because of my first order. whatever.. It contents 11.0% Amphetamine and 65.2% Caffeine and some other non-psychedelic-matters. I was really disappointed about that..
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=7807598fd7c0df16aa97dc89658de0a3.jpg
Latest Batch:
This time I ordered a sample of 250mg. Much better than the old batch ! It smells like pure chemistry ( it is ). Took one line which weighted about 30mg. Very nice effect. Didn't snort such good speed in my whole life ( lil joke ). I brought this sample to center too. The test-result was like a slap in your face. 92.6% pure amphetamine. Second best amphetamine they ever tested !.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=3c5894155633da952378ba6d00772c3b.jpg
Flyerz1934 8)
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I don't fucking believe that.
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Thank you flyerz :), I get my results back on next Friday, should be around 0.926 x 0.73 = 68%
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Latest Batch:
This time I ordered a sample of 250mg. Much better than the old batch ! It smells like pure chemistry ( it is ). Took one line which weighted about 30mg. Very nice effect. Didn't snort such good speed in my whole life ( lil joke ). I brought this sample to center too. The test-result was like a slap in your face. 92.6% pure amphetamine. Second best amphetamine they ever tested !.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=3c5894155633da952378ba6d00772c3b.jpg
Interesting, thanks for testing!
Now the freebase equivalent would be awesome ;) who volunteers to calculate?
I have to say tho, that this doesn't match my findings. I did a Marquis recently which wasn't nearly as good as with CC's and left green strains behind. Didn't give me nearly as good results as either BM or CC. It interacted strangely with BM, I don't recommend combining them, and gave me quite some headache. I was far from an ideal condition tho, so it can be of course *very* distorted. All of this, just because it's Hydrochloride (or was it converted to HCl or is it the equivalent to HCl, it's no Sulphate for sure)? Also: Sample.
Don't want to put anything or anyone down, just stating facts. Based on this result I'll do some further testing. Most important thing to me is that it's safe.
the 650mg/g of Caffeine sound about right, straight to OD land, I took quite some more than I usually could have taken. Also matches what I was able to wash out.
To be honest, didn't expect that at all. Need to do some reading on AmpHCl (btw comparing dosages to AmpSO4 will be BS).
edit: according to wiki.de this should be smokeable... Anyone got a meth pipe? :P
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Latest Batch:
This time I ordered a sample of 250mg. Much better than the old batch ! It smells like pure chemistry ( it is ). Took one line which weighted about 30mg. Very nice effect. Didn't snort such good speed in my whole life ( lil joke ). I brought this sample to center too. The test-result was like a slap in your face. 92.6% pure amphetamine. Second best amphetamine they ever tested !.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=3c5894155633da952378ba6d00772c3b.jpg
Interesting, thanks for testing!
Now the freebase equivalent would be awesome ;) who volunteers to calculate?
I have to say tho, that this doesn't match my findings. I did a Marquis recently which wasn't nearly as good as with CC's and left green strains behind. Didn't give me nearly as good results as either BM or CC. It interacted strangely with BM, I don't recommend combining them, and gave me quite some headache. I was far from an ideal condition tho, so it can be of course *very* distorted. All of this, just because it's Hydrochloride (or was it converted to HCl or is it the equivalent to HCl, it's no Sulphate for sure)? Also: Sample.
Don't want to put anything or anyone down, just stating facts. Based on this result I'll do some further testing. Most important thing to me is that it's safe.
the 650mg/g of Caffeine sound about right, straight to OD land, I took quite some more than I usually could have taken. Also matches what I was able to wash out.
To be honest, didn't expect that at all. Need to do some reading on AmpHCl (btw comparing dosages to AmpSO4 will be BS).
edit: according to wiki.de this should be smokeable... Anyone got a meth pipe? :P
His latest batch hasn't Caffeine in there!. ( Just a information )
It's AmpHCl I think, but I'm not sure.
Don't smoke amp it is toxic ( I read that somewhere ).
Btw: I got a fucking hater. -1 Karma -.-
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Thank you flyerz :), I get my results back on next Friday, should be around 0.926 x 0.73 = 68%
Didn't I calculate that recently? I vaguely remember something, 68% likely to be wrong, formula is for AmpSo4, not AmpHCl.
My mind is pretty much blown by this, unless the base equ. turns out to be significantly lower. New believe system needs to sink in.
My findings were all combined with AmpSO4, where it didn't do a good job at all, could be because of HCl. Felt like it would neutralize BM instead of adding to it. Only diff I can see is the HCl, so don't combine. ymml
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Don't smoke amp it is toxic ( I read that somewhere ).
Btw: I got a fucking hater. -1 Karma -.-
Don't smoke AmpSO4. AmpHCl, wiki.de says, is smokeable (as is freebase). Didn't know that either.
I gave you +1, let the haters hate :P
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Don't smoke amp it is toxic ( I read that somewhere ).
Btw: I got a fucking hater. -1 Karma -.-
Don't smoke AmpSO4. AmpHCl, wiki.de says, is smokeable (as is freebase). Didn't know that either.
I gave you +1, let the haters hate :P
Snort it and you don't die :D.
Thanks, again -1. haters suck
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Re-post from my feedback thread :
Hey mate,
thanks a lot for posting this analysis.
I think that will give some credit to my story about my suppliers - I actually deal with the guys who run the lab that produces this amphetamine.
It's also a confirmation that they told me the truth when they said they were going to supply me with pure & untouched amphetamine - good to know that.
Now it's just weird that there are a few customers (just about 1% .. the other 99% were all satisfied) who did not like it - I think it might be due to previous experiences and individual preference.
My suppliers actually told me that some of the guys they sell to explicitly asked them to use some cutting agent because their customers were not too satisfied with the pure stuff.
The high it produces was too 'clean' they said .. does not fuck them up in the head but that's what they wanted... so I guess some people just don't like the clear and productive amphetamine high.
Same with cocaine ... when I used to sell IRL some of my customers were not happy when I got a new batch that was actually a lot more pure - because they were missing the speedy effects of average street cocaine... and when there was no benzocaine/lidocaine in it some of them always thought it was not as good because the numbing was not as strong ..
Well anyway I'm happy about the outcome of the analysis and next time I'm getting asked for a refund because the stuff I sold was 'no amphetamine' or just some RC I'll show 'em the analysis and tell 'em they are not going to get anything...
I'd like to reward you for your services (although I never asked you to do this or anything) ... anything that would make you happy ? ;)
Cheers
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I'll try to find some information on the conversion of amph hcl to base .. otherwise I can always ask my suppliers , they would know for sure... but I don't think it's going to be a lot different from sulphate... to be honest I did not even know that this was HCL , I did not ask them , just assumed it was sulphate because they were always using the term 'salt' and the most common is sulphate ..
Cheers
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Some things I found out:
Amphetamine % in Amp.SO4 = ~73.4%
Amphetamine % in Amp.HCL = ~78.8%
Amp.HCL is hygroscopic, that means it's absorbing moisture from the atmosphere.
Amp.HCL is ~7.4% more potent than Amp.SO4 because: 78.8% / 73.4% x 100% = 107.357 %
Amphetamine = 135.2g/mol
Amp.HCL=171,68 g/mol 135.2/171,68 x 100% = ~78,75%
Amp.Sulphate=368,50 g/mol (135.2 x 2)/368.5 x 100% = ~73,38%
AmpSO4: (amphetamine)2.H2SO4
Hydrochloride: (amphetamine).HCl
Note: could be wrong; I found some things on the internet, I did the calculating and I ain't a chemist.
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Thanks mate! You were quicker :)
So amphetamine-HCL actually contains MORE amphetamine than amph-sulphate .. this evening is getting better and better .. not even the 60+ messages I still have to read and reply to can change that ;)
Cheers
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I'm glad that I could help you. ;D
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Thanks mate! You were quicker :)
So amphetamine-HCL actually contains MORE amphetamine than amph-sulphate .. this evening is getting better and better .. not even the 60+ messages I still have to read and reply to can change that ;)
Cheers
As I mentioned, there is no possible way this could've been an RC. Whoever had that strange reaction should probably lay off drugs for a while. It's too bad that my latest order has been so delayed :(
I dread going to a "thing" tomorrow now.
If this report is indeed legitimate, and muslix (anyone else?) finds BM and CC to have much stronger stuff then what purity would theirs be?... and then it's not at all a matter of purity but just different types. So, for once then.. SR speed is like Pokemon, gotta catch(BUY) em all!! one type of amphetamine for every occasion.
(For the record, I don't know what kind of idiots want their speed cut with anything lol. Awesome clean high is the best. It's like that movie Limitless....)
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Who fucking called it?! I knew MrFireUk's was good shit!! <3 <3 <3 <3
Honestly some of what some other people said kind of got to me, so then I ended up thinking it was maybe 80-90%, but fuck yea, turns out I was right all along!! XP
What with people saying it was MDMA or an RC, whatever. I'm just fucking glad to have some really pure for a really good price. I'm glad to have some speed that it feels really clean too. With Boy's I noticed that with big doses later in a long day, I just wasn't able to really function much anymore. Too much weirdness, nervousness, sweating, jittering, paranoia, acting kind of "off," etc. but that was also his old stuff
I can rail lines of FireUK's all day, and I'll still be in control of myself and still be super happy to talk to everybody.
MrFireUK if you read this, I'm begging you, PLEASE PLEASE don't ever stop doing what you are. Keep the price and the purity, I don't even care if it never gets purer, just stick around, I'll always want
Ignore all the haterzs, like I said, I wouldn't ask for a better deal. People are just insecure coz Boy was king before, and they're not used to the clean high of high purity.
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Bombed 70mg of MrFireUK's speed 1.5 hours ago with no tolerance.
It smells exactly like the BestBase from DD.
I have to say that I'm noticeable high and I pretty much like it though no rush hit me at all.
Medium body load, fast heart beat, low mood lift, no dilated pupils but I kinda appreciate the (positive) effects.
What I am noticing with this speed as it was the same last week: I'm feeling pretty cold, my hands, my feet and so on. Edgy or part of the high?
Maybe I'm getting this wrong and you don't recognize a pure amphetamine high that much because you're so clear headed?
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Now, 2.5 hours after I feel pretty tired and already coming down :D
Maybe I have a natural or very fast building up tolerance? Doing speed weekly with a break of 7 days or more should avoid amphetamine tolerance or am I wrong?
Maybe I'll try to put in a longer break if I manage to be that patient :)
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Half an hour after the last edit I feel pretty good again :P
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Two hours after my last edit:
Have to revise my impression of MrFireUK's stuff. Till now I'm still feeling pretty good and am pleased by it.
Would rate it with 7/10 due to the high dose of 70mg.
What made me feel uncomfortable was the pretty high body load. This has gone away.
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The effects you notice mainly when you are doing productive stuff or socialize with people. I do however not find it to cause sexual improvement as certain speed... You don't feel a straight up rush from it like you would from crystal meth. Which is why I prefer it. Crystal meth just make me too crazy to be outdoors with people (I train boxing and I will just start fights, while on clean amph I will just be nicey nice and social)- and not a single person will notice that I am high. That is the best attribute, you can appear perfectly normal on great clean speed.
To me it's the most versatile drug there is. You can take it, and enjoy yourself in a recreational / social setting, simple things such as challenging multiplayer video games.. or advanced high stakes poker.
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@ jackintherox: I have more stock.. Listings go up tomorrow or Friday..
Thanks
CC
Don't know where you live, but Friday is over in all countries of the world.
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is CapeCrusader in stealth mode?
can someone please give me his SR-link?
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A few nonths back I bought samples of 'speed' off all the main vendors plus a few domestic UK vendors who are still selling what I consider to be total garbage for speed!
Mr Fire, was not here in my shopping spree! Women go to the supermarket, men find SR and shopping becomes a fucking great experience! Sitting here, cup of tea, nice joint, its so relaxing. No pressure. No crowds of mad shoppers and women with a glare in their eyes.
So, it looks like the speed situation is a whole lot better now even on a domestic level. Not tried Mr Fires and don't use speed/amphetamine anymore unless its prescription such as dexamfetamine. This leads to my addition to the discussion here and I assume that its OK to talk about prescription meds that are amphetamine based.
So, I finally caught up with comeoneileen, UK vendor, small vendor and not someone with a vast list of prescription drugs. He/She has only one drug listed and its dexamfetamine sulphate, 5mg tabs, Auden McKenzie Pharma division LTD. Tabs are small white round. You can see the photo of he strips on comeoneileens vendoir page. ( http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/db18475873 ) No listing as of yet. Holiday.
So the report?
I spent a weekend having a few drinks, and partook of some top coke but small amount really. 100mg or so both Friday and Saturday. Sunday morning at 11.00am I decided to open up the strip and take a look at these 5mg tablets. I broke one in half. 2.5mg of dex, seems a tiny amount of 'speed' but after 20 mins on a half empty stomach, I felt that distinctive buzz of a stimulant.
Having already partied for two night I decided to tidy up the house. As anyone here who has used speed will know, speed or any stimulant in that field can make you tidy up a house like a madman or women.
I took the other half of the dex about two hours later -(1.00pm) and was at a level were I was high but at a very comfortable level. I made sure to drink plenty of water, and took some coffee which seemed to go well with the dex I had taken.
Now, I realize 5mg is maybe a laughable amount to some, but I don't need a lot of any stimulant so I will try again and use for a party situation instead of coke. Mixing the two would not be a good idea. To party (I drink alcohol at social occasions) I would guess that 20mg would be enough for me but I would use in 2.5mg doses, that way its easy to either stop using and come down easier or take more and know it won't give you a heart attack.
Also, there is no doubt as with speed made illegally as to what dosage is correct.
People may recall that 50mg of boymasters speed made me give up using speed. It was too strong for me. I had Valium but in powder form and was wary of using that. I now know that 25mg of Valium would have 'saved me' from a night of hell!
I got ripped off with speed until boymaster came along. Then I got speed so powerful it made me decide to give it up. Irony! Now we seem to have great speed all over. I guess speed is best used when you are aged under 30. Easy to recover and lets not deny speed is a hard hitting drug. For each high a low! People use coke because they know Monday morning, 8.00am, being hung over from speed is not a good thing! I used to enjoy amphetamine but now need something milder and more predictable. This is why dexamfetamine sulphate seems a good thing for me.
So, anyone else like to use dex or other prescription stimulants?
I did enjoy, even on a tiny amount like 2.5mg. Price is right also. We have several vendors doing soem dex but this is legit stuff, UK prescribed, so I assume I got the 'real thing' or 'the true one' as some coke vendoir calls his coke!
PS I thought Ritalin was pretty poor, and Modafinil,never thought much of that but may be useful for studying quietly. No good for pubs and crowds.
Laters.
Red.
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is CapeCrusader in stealth mode?
can someone please give me his SR-link?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/c5e6d57e98
What's a suggested dose for a girl weighing about 110lbs and never done drugs or drinks alcohol?
She doesn't want to lose control over her mind and what she's saying and how she's behaving.
Just want to know how she is affected by the stuff.
Referring to MrFireUK's latest or BM's last batch.
30mg or is more still acceptable in order to keep control over herself?
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@ jackintherox: I have more stock.. Listings go up tomorrow or Friday..
Thanks
CC
Don't know where you live, but Friday is over in all countries of the world.
Sorry about that.. I have decided to put up the listings on Monday.. It wouldn't make much sense to put them up on Friday since i do not ship orders over the weekend and would probably be sitting with a major backlog of orders from the weekend.. I will put them up Monday evening 20:00 Western European time..
Thank you for your patience..
CC
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is CapeCrusader in stealth mode?
can someone please give me his SR-link?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/c5e6d57e98
What's a suggested dose for a girl weighing about 110lbs and never done drugs or drinks alcohol?
She doesn't want to lose control over her mind and what she's saying and how she's behaving.
Just want to know how she is affected by the stuff.
Referring to MrFireUK's latest or BM's last batch.
30mg or is more still acceptable in order to keep control over herself?
I'm about 120lb. girl. With no tolerance, pure should make the effects noticeable, without it being too much. Just want to warn you now, taking too much is a lot worse when you don't have a tolerance. A lot easier to get psychosis, and you're a lot more sensitive to small differences in milligrams. For example, if you gave her 50mg instead of 40mg, she'll have a bad time. And psychosis is not fun.
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is CapeCrusader in stealth mode?
can someone please give me his SR-link?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/c5e6d57e98
What's a suggested dose for a girl weighing about 110lbs and never done drugs or drinks alcohol?
She doesn't want to lose control over her mind and what she's saying and how she's behaving.
Just want to know how she is affected by the stuff.
Referring to MrFireUK's latest or BM's last batch.
30mg or is more still acceptable in order to keep control over herself?
I'm about 120lb. girl. With no tolerance, pure should make the effects noticeable, without it being too much. Just want to warn you now, taking too much is a lot worse when you don't have a tolerance. A lot easier to get psychosis, and you're a lot more sensitive to small differences in milligrams. For example, if you gave her 50mg instead of 40mg, she'll have a bad time. And psychosis is not fun.
Thank you but are you serious? I took 70mg of FireUK's with no tolerance and am nowhere near an OD. But I think, 30mg is okay ;)
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Got a small amount of MrFire (1g)...As not a regular user of amphetamine, I'm going pretty good off a minute amount of it (I don't have a mg scale, unfortunately), but after I crushed it up and chopped it down it was maybe a half-inch line? bump? Not sure, but fairly small and I'm good to go... /thumbsup
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Ooohhh with so much choice it's hard to choose! And now Red says Dex is the 'true one' haha! My prejudice doesn't trust 5mgs though lol even though I'm sure medical grade stuff is top quality. I prefer Red's review of BM's speed though, saying it was so strong you won't take it again is like a brilliant review.
Btw in MrFire's order page it automatically says BTC 0 for 2nd Postage. Does that mean people who have ordered before get free postage? In the drop down list there is normal postage for BTC 0.34 but I don't know why that doesn't come up automatically?
Does anyone also know how much Cape's gram will be on Monday please? I feel like ordering from MrFire just now because his grams are $10 less than BM's and the purity is 92% vs 96% which is not much. But the reviews of Cape's gear is so good I might wait if his prices are closer to MrFire's.
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Ooohhh with so much choice it's hard to choose! And now Red says Dex is the 'true one' haha! My prejudice doesn't trust 5mgs though lol even though I'm sure medical grade stuff is top quality. I prefer Red's review of BM's speed though, saying it was so strong you won't take it again is like a brilliant review.
Btw in MrFire's order page it automatically says BTC 0 for 2nd Postage. Does that mean people who have ordered before get free postage? In the drop down list there is normal postage for BTC 0.34 but I don't know why that doesn't come up automatically?
Does anyone also know how much Cape's gram will be on Monday please? I feel like ordering from MrFire just now because his grams are $10 less than BM's and the purity is 92% vs 96% which is not much. But the reviews of Cape's gear is so good I might wait if his prices are closer to MrFire's.
Hi
The price for 1 gram will be $25US and 2 grams will be $45US.. Everything pure ofcourse..
Regards
CC
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From about 8:00pm regarding FireUK, couldn't get on here, update with dosages after that. Not gonna take any more.
I also gave it a second try today. Did a small line of BM first, just to feel the effects, when I felt like redosing I bombed the HCL.
I got extremely tired again at first, I remember a similar effect when doing ritalin after a night awake. I first get tired, then it hits me and I am wide awake.
Then it hit me like a baseball bat and again, I felt sober. All the nice effects gone. Don't combine with BM, that's just cruel masochism. Actually felt kinda depressing, taking that nice mood lift away.
I have combined different speeds many many times over the years, tends to run out early on Sunday morning when you need it the most. Never seen anything like that. It feels much more like an appetite suppressant to me. Just without suppressing the appetite.
I am sure I am not placebo-ing this. You can only placebo so much. Like imagining you are getting high on mdma for 20-30 min and then realizing, oops, doesn't work yet. Doing that the other way around is much harder. Try imagining the effects are not there while you're heavily tweaking on BM, or while on good MDMA or some 150ug LSD trip. Won't work.
I took a few more bombs, drank some stomach-pH-fixing MagnesiumSomething. Last dose really took me over the edge. Felt tired again, but this time it was too much. Fell asleep. I also had dinner already. At enough pure Amp that should have me heavily tweaking until Monday. Kinda odd.
After dinner I decided to do 2 more bombs (because wth), after the first I started to feel slightly better. I got kinda agitated, had to move, but my legs still hurt. Not very exciting, so next bomb.
More of the same, now my legs start to feel better. I am slightly physical tweaking, again feels like I have to move, but I am to lazy to act on it. Now I also get some bodyload, not like that pleasant goose-bumpy feeling BM/CC produce, but just a strange bodyload. Restless leg is starting to show up, but lazyness is still on top. Yes, I am still awake but I already got my AH stack ready.
Again I just cant help but notice that the effects are much more like an NRI (appetite suppresants like Regenon, Adipex) than a DRI/NDRI. Dopamine is missing. By now I am a fair bit over 1g like about 1200mg in 8-10hrs(!), this is kinda ridiculous for 92% amp. I do have some tolerance, but nothing like that. If I did that with either BM or CC, besides that I probably couldn't because I would be too spaced out, I am sure it wouldn't end well. If I dropped that at once, I am not sure if I'd make it to the ER in time. With the HCL I could take it, might get some small rush after all. Sorry to say, but something is wrong here.
After reading the results yesterday and some messaging, I decided to leave it alone, went out, emptied my serotonin :) (everything regarding Serotonin will likely go past me unnoticed), came home in the early morning and slept long in the day.
Got some hopes up yesterday when reading the results, but unfortunately they still don't match any of my findings. Not very impressed.
I have to say that I'm noticeable high and I pretty much like it though no rush hit me at all.
Medium body load, fast heart beat, low mood lift, no dilated pupils but I kinda appreciate the (positive) effects.
What I am noticing with this speed as it was the same last week: I'm feeling pretty cold, my hands, my feet and so on. Edgy or part of the high?
Maybe I'm getting this wrong and you don't recognize a pure amphetamine high that much because you're so clear headed?
Second that. especially: fast heart beat. strange. dilated pupils from BM went back to needlepoint size. I felt sober and focused, don't want to use 'clean' since CC didn't feel like that at all. And the cold hands and feet! I was/am freezing!
Yeah, maybe when we get to 100% (freebase cocktails) all effects are gone :P
I do however not find it to cause sexual improvement as certain speed...
thisss. Another distinct feature of amp that was missing. Started to feel slight effects after initial BM line, disappeared with the HCL. Not. enough. Dopamine.
Not sure what to think about this. All that because of HCL use instead of Sulphate? Hard to believe. And why HCL at all? Did some reading and found it pretty much has only disadvantages. Using a different salt, can possibly change effects (slightly). This is often done with generic meds. They then have to be re-tested and re-evaluated (see those Norvatis slides). Most weird/puzzling product on SR yet. I am almost certain that those of you with euphoric effects get this from some Serotonin involvement. I could be wrong though, but pretty much everything points to that. Amp still would be able to cause this (?!) see wiki: "Amphetamine exerts its behavioral effects by modulating several key neurotransmitters in the brain, including dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine.", but I never experienced it. No offense to anyone :)
Nothing really changed, still consider BM and CC in a completely different league. I'd rate this right below GE :)
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Thanks for the reply Cape.
Thanks very much for the detailed review muslix. I think I will order from CC or BM this week and then maybe MrFire again next week so I can compare. As you say, a gram of quality speed should have you chasing your tail like a jack russel lol definitely not falling asleep!
BM is certainly getting rave reviews, in fact I don't think I've read a bad one yet. But CC's is great for studying? I could really do with something like that. Lol it's almost become like a fine wine club xD
Thanks again guys for the replies, I know what to buy now ;)
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Is there an easy way to convert the HCL to Sulfate?
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Is there an easy way to convert the HCL to Sulfate?
Depends what your definition of "easy" is? You can basify it with NaOH (sodium hydroxide) to form the freebase. Once the said freebase is isolated you can convert it to the sulphate salt.. Ofcourse this is just a brief description.. It is a bit more complex..
Be safe
CC
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Love you work muslix!
Can anyone suggest a good IV dose for BM and Mrfires gear please?
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BM's latest off white/pinky batch (or is that just the bag!) - Meh. Pleasant but not rocket fuel by any means.
I need to sample Fire's to see what all the fuss is about.
NM
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Is there an easy way to convert the HCL to Sulfate?
If you have Amphetamine HCL 90% and Amphetamine Sulphate. Actually should both have the same strenght, but HCL is stronger than sulphate. It is scientifically proven.
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BM's latest off white/pinky batch (or is that just the bag!) - Meh. Pleasant but not rocket fuel by any means.
I need to sample Fire's to see what all the fuss is about.
NM
What dosing?
MrFire's could pretty likely be just Methylphenidate in powder form. What do you guys think? I got tired from Ritalin as well as I got from this stuff.
And Methylphenidate COULD trigger a lab test on amph, but not very probable.
What I find pretty interesting: Without redosing, after about 4 hours the positive effects where much more noticeable, like it kicked in another time. Just like the XR pills.
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BM's latest off white/pinky batch (or is that just the bag!) - Meh. Pleasant but not rocket fuel by any means.
I need to sample Fire's to see what all the fuss is about.
NM
What dosing?
MrFire's could pretty likely be just Methylphenidate in powder form. What do you guys think? I got tired from Ritalin as well as I got from this stuff.
And Methylphenidate COULD trigger a lab test on amph, but not very probable.
What I find pretty interesting: Without redosing, after about 4 hours the positive effects where much more noticeable, like it kicked in another time. Just like the XR pills.
Dude can you please just stop?
The fkn drugs you keep thinking that MrFireUK's stuff is not even REMOTELY CLOSE to the effects of what you're speculating on...
Just stop. It's getting annoying. Ritalin is fkn nothing like this stuff. Not even remotely close... First MDMA then RITALIN? This is NOTHING like a DRI.
Stop using drugs. Seriously. Your brain is either broken or you're spewing out annoying bullcrap for some strange reason.
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BM's latest off white/pinky batch (or is that just the bag!) - Meh. Pleasant but not rocket fuel by any means.
I need to sample Fire's to see what all the fuss is about.
NM
What dosing?
MrFire's could pretty likely be just Methylphenidate in powder form. What do you guys think? I got tired from Ritalin as well as I got from this stuff.
And Methylphenidate COULD trigger a lab test on amph, but not very probable.
What I find pretty interesting: Without redosing, after about 4 hours the positive effects where much more noticeable, like it kicked in another time. Just like the XR pills.
Dude can you please just stop?
The fkn drugs you keep thinking that MrFireUK's stuff is not even REMOTELY CLOSE to the effects of what you're speculating on...
Just stop. It's getting annoying. Ritalin is fkn nothing like this stuff. Not even remotely close... First MDMA then RITALIN? This is NOTHING like a DRI.
Stop using drugs. Seriously. Your brain is either broken or you're spewing out annoying bullcrap for some strange reason.
Are you a little dumb or something like that?
I've done all of those drugs and am only writing down my experiences so far and AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS STRANGE EFFECTS ON FIREUK'S STUFF, so STFU!
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Heading into troll range if you ask me numbering. numb is more the case. serious your brain chemistry is serious fucked up. Please take a long break. I have been enjoying both MrFireUK and BoyMasters gear for a week now. Love them both and while different all the better to mix and match and switch and hit to play the tolerance dance. The fact is I have been going on small dose for weeks now on various sourced amp and even the devil shard as after all I am in the states. Sometimes you just plain run yourself to ground and have to take time to recover and gt back to enjoying it. Take the hit and break so your body can get back to sort of right. Once you reach this place that you are describing, as I have seen over many many years in myself and others, you simply have to recoup and quit chasing that buzz.
As the guy before said so well Ritalin works completely different for me as does MDMA and honestly the lab should be the authority around here. They will not fuck up in such a simple manner. The testing used there will be chromatography of some sort and the responses for different drugs are very different and easy to determine. The lab would have specifically label as methylphenidate had that been the case. Trust me it is not unknown to them. Or for that matter a wide range od RCs and other bullshit as well.. We are not taking a spot test that relies on color change or other simple mechanism for identification but most likely GC Mass spec the most exacting procedure available. Thia I speak about with great knowledge and experience.
Last point in my rant, usually when many like something and only you are having a problem...you are the problem . Just old hillbilly wisdom. And by the way I am the supplier of your last negative karma just os you know the straight shooter that I am. I will come straight in and punch you in the mouth not some other pussy bullshit.
Peace
Hilly
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Heading into troll range if you ask me numbering. numb is more the case. serious you brain chemistry is serious fucked up. Please take a long break. I have been enjoying both MrFireUK and BoyMasters gear for a week now. Love them both and while different all the better to mix and match and switch and hit to play the tolerance dance. The fact is I have been going on small dose for weeks now on various sourced amp and even the devil shard as after all I am in the states. Sometimes you just plain run yourself to ground and have to take time to recover and gt back to enjoying it. Take the hit and break so your body can get back to sort of right. Once you reach this place that you are describing, as I have seen over many many years in myself and others, you simply have to recoup and quit chasing that buzz.
As the guy before said so well tritalin works completely different for me as does MDMA and honestly the lab should be the authority around here. They will not fuck up in such a simple manner. The testing used there will be chromatography of some sort and the responses for different drugs are very different and easy to determine. The would have specifically label as methylphenidate had that been the case. Trust me it is not unknown to them. Or for that matter a wide range od RCs and other bullshit as well.. We are not taking a spot test that relies on color change or other simple mechanism for identification but most likely GC Mass spec the most exacting procedure available. Thia I speak about with great knowledge and experience.
Last point in my rant, usually when many like something and only you are having a problem...you are the problem . Just old hillbilly wisdom. And by the way I am the supplier of your last negative karma just os you know the straight shooter that I am. I will come straight in and punch you in the mouth not some other pussy bullshit.
Peace
Hilly
So, you're basically saying that müslix' brain chemistry is fucked up as well? Strange that BM's stuff works like a charm and MrFireUK's fucking quits the effects!
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lol thaat was too easy thans for my negative pay bak..HAHa feel better now.. Well since it is nicely a gorgeous morning here and a holiday weekend let me go load up that sweet fat line of MRFireUK amp and start enjying it. May be a nice candyflip day for me.
Now numbering I hope your pussy hurts good and you can enjoy yourself as well.....so pick on me who could care less and my business is completely unaffected by your little pussy vitrol.
Too all you other tweakers be safe and have fun
Too much fun so early
let that hillybilly piss run off your head boy..
we can that mountain dew here in my part of the mountains...
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hmm ok since you are so quick to play and got that in before I finally left this sorry ass discussion of hurt pussys...Muslix for all the posing and his long winded bs posts that all us old dogs laugh at is a silly punk ass kid like yourself. Sorry to say yall have provide much entertainment to those of us who have already sought out and learned our information long before the worldwide web of misinformation and that lovely uncle fester of fucked up synthesis almost there but just enough fucked up that you can not reproduce his claims. I like the actual scientific articles and white technical papers and patent claims. But that knowledge will confuse your little mind thinking about a hillbilly that reads and understands the likes of which I speak. Another free lesson in life youngster, dont ever under estimate people you do not really know.
Well I have better things to do like live my life then waste any more breathe on punks.
Hilly
PS perception is a powerful thing if you think it will not work it will not work. you have heaqrd of the placebo effect right? that is why it is every good study ever made in a real scientific world.
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What dosing?
MrFire's could pretty likely be just Methylphenidate in powder form. What do you guys think? I got tired from Ritalin as well as I got from this stuff.
And Methylphenidate COULD trigger a lab test on amph, but not very probable.
What I find pretty interesting: Without redosing, after about 4 hours the positive effects where much more noticeable, like it kicked in another time. Just like the XR pills.
Dude can you please just stop?
The fkn drugs you keep thinking that MrFireUK's stuff is not even REMOTELY CLOSE to the effects of what you're speculating on...
Just stop. It's getting annoying. Ritalin is fkn nothing like this stuff. Not even remotely close... First MDMA then RITALIN? This is NOTHING like a DRI.
Stop using drugs. Seriously. Your brain is either broken or you're spewing out annoying bullcrap for some strange reason.
Are you a little dumb or something like that?
I've done all of those drugs and am only writing down my experiences so far and AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS STRANGE EFFECTS ON FIREUK'S STUFF, so STFU!
You're the one who needs to STFU, LISTEN and stop giving out bad karma.. Seriously, The only negative karma I have comes from you spamming. Strange effects?
First you call it MDMA, then an RC, then RITALIN.
So, we go from a serotonin releaser to an unknown quantity RC, to a dopamine reuptake inhibitor. All which have WILDLY different effects stated by you.. and NONE of which have the effects that MrFireUK's speed actually provides.
DO YOU NOT REALIZE HOW INSANE THIS IS? You're looking at a colour going oh, it's brown.. no wait it's blue, oh nooo no no it's probably grey when ti's white all along and everyone is telling you so. Is it so hard to deduct that maybe there's something wrong with you? Don't you think it's strange that pretty much everyone who uses his stuff thinks it's pure amphetamine. Don't you think it's strange that the lab test showed it was amphetamine HCL?
Don't you think you should look yourself in the damn mirror and question whether you should be doing these drugs, for your own safety. Instead of being a petulant little shit no the forums making all kinds of claims and then -negative karmaing people when they totally debunk your drivel?
I doubt you will actually answer these questions sensibly, I wish I could simply ignore you but it's really difficult when you're such a consistently bad poster.
They should revoke your ability to give out karma. You've provided ZERO quality posts to ANYWHERE. You only use it in a fashion it's not meant to be used.
You're an annoying inadvertent troll at this point.
And since you decided to drag muslix into this- muslix, can you confirm that this speed is indeed not only MDMA but also Ritalin and a neurotoxic RC?
Also, muslix probably needs to slow down a bit! I use fireuk stuff in 6-8 hour stretches, with plenty of food. Days inbetween, I think muslix goes a few days without sleep mixing different amps.. but I trust and agree with the opinion that that while it's different from what a lot of people can seek from speed conventionally (the sexual buzz and stronger body high)- there's no doubt in my mind that this is amphetamine as advertised and nothing else, but when you throw it into the mix with other super high potency "amphetamine sulfate" products from different labs, not having enough sleep- ones mileage may vary...
Chances are I might personally like CC or BM's stuff (for partying) better too but, I like FireUK's stuff better than anything I could use so far and I've tried pretty much every stim there is from novel&exotic RC's to crystal meth. I say this as I like it for my purposes better, if I wanted to go on some crazy sex marathon then yeah, crystal meth- wee great.. but, a stimulant with relatively low body load cheap price and extremely potent cognitive enhancement. perfect for me. I can see how it could be better, so I will order some of CC's stuff.
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Latest Batch:
This time I ordered a sample of 250mg. Much better than the old batch ! It smells like pure chemistry ( it is ). Took one line which weighted about 30mg. Very nice effect. Didn't snort such good speed in my whole life ( lil joke ). I brought this sample to center too. The test-result was like a slap in your face. 92.6% pure amphetamine. Second best amphetamine they ever tested !.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=3c5894155633da952378ba6d00772c3b.jpg
It is not HCl.
from the msds for Amphetamine Hydrochloride (available at http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/fluka/94777 ):
"hygroscopic, Store under inert gas."
if it were HCl it would turn into a slush if exposed to air. but it does not.
you can only gc/ms substances that vaporize, they probably do an A/B extraction on the sample and cant differentiate between hydrochloride and sulfate because of this:
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"All samples should be in solution in an organic solvent. Often, this will involve extraction, via acid-base extraction, from an aqueous solvent into an organic one. It is much better to use the free acid or free base form of an organic compound in solution rather than the salt form.
The salts decompose in the GC injector, which is heated to around 250 C, so the retention time and mass spectrum will be of the free acid or base form anyway."
--------------------- source:http://www.dsbscience.com/freepubs/forensic_intern/node103.html
of course they could test for the chloride anion in another way (e.g. silver nitrate test) but the DIZ who made this analysis just calls anything "hcl" ... in their substance list they dont even list any other salts of the drugs they test for. My understanding is that they measure the free base content and give the approximate percentages as if it were the HCL salt.
I have to say tho, that this doesn't match my findings. I did a Marquis recently which wasn't nearly as good as with CC's and left green strains behind. Didn't give me nearly as
A minor impurity could cause the "green strains". 99.9% amphetamine sulfate can still have this reaction.
you cant really tell how "good" some amphetamine is by a subjective interpretation of the marquis reaction.
to quote dr.shulgin: "As the test is extremely sensitive, no estimate can be easily made as to the quantity of alkaloid present"
(see http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/marquis.htm)
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omg! I bet you're all snorting like 100mg or more. I'd have the expected effects as well with those doses. But it should be active at much lower doses like BM's speed is.
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pachang well done response above. However you are a bit excessive in some claims. First claim, I know for a fact that this will love to adsorb moisture and loves water. It will not simply turn to mush in short order. It can tend to clump and steady under open storage continue to absorb moisture until it is quite wet. . The fact that there is a bit of other impurities as well a clear indication of lactose will help inhibit that effect. The salt anions are very easy to determine and while GC MS makes perfect sense there is no reason to believe equally viable to HPLC or even simple thin layer for determinations as well. In case of HPLC the anion is very simple determine by retention time. Really split column and or switching carrier solutions and it is a one sample run. Ask me how I know..it should be obvious by my statements actually.
Peace
Hilly
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ahh the weak protests of the clobbered numbering... sorry sweety I assure you i prefer a nice fat 40-50 mg line split into tow for each nostril. To feel the equal drain and pain..I am as fat dude as you meet even here in the land of the fatties and this gets me flying pretty good for at least 4-6 hrs before an small bump re dosing is required. Depends on my sense of how wound up I really want to be. But each of us is very different in body chemistry and any does claims should always be viewed as relative. I actually tend to sensitivity compared to my friends irl to be perfectly honest. I normally will use up to 1 pt a day over the whole day under heavy stress and work load other wise 50-75 is the normal i want to be happily high and motivated. Please take a break from your obsessing it is more helpful and restful.
Peace and Great Vibes
Hilly
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One time, I did synthesize the HCl salt for experimentation purposes. It was extremely hard to dry, I mean you can't just evaporate the water with heat. You must let it dry in desiccator, a closed box or a big jar full of a drying agent like silica gel or magnesium sulfate or even vacuum and spend some days drying it.
After drying, if you leave the amphetamine hydrochloride at open air it catches moisture from air and converts to a transparent gel or jelly and it's a pretty fast process, can take 1 or 2 days maximum. Same as Alpha-gpc, if anybody knows Alpha will know what I'm talking about.
Best regards
BM
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Boymaster is correct. Amphetamine HCL is extremely hygroscopic(absorbs water).. If you want an idea you can experiment with sodium hydroxide which is quite easy to obtain and also very hygroscopic.. Leave it out in the open and it will turn into a liquid(sodium hydroxide solution).. There is a reason amphetamine HCL is so rarely produced and this is because it is so unstable..
Thanks
CC
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Then MrFireUk's amphetamine is not HCL, because yesterday I put 200mg on my desk and left it overnight. It still was in powder form, it wasn't even more moist. Then I breathe out a couple of times on the amphetamine and nothing happened.
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Gonna start off by saying I don't want to offend anyone, but müslix isn't the most reliable person around. He's got his resources, and he's pretty knowledgeable, and he's got quite a fair share of experience. I don't want to blame him for saying anything wrong, I believe him if he says he feels weird. But I don't think his body is very subjective (not that anybody's is, but still). Like that time he freaked out from that caffeine cut BS someone sold him that got him sent to the ER. That's not a fun thing, but idk if that much caffeine would sent someone like me, for example, to the ER.
Same thing with numbering, I wouldn't hold it against him if he said he felt any weird effects that didn't line up with his expectations of pure. He's just a bit more "assertive."
So, in a nutshell, they're just don't know what to think of a really clean high.
One thing I'd like to add tho, is that the both of you need to lay off being so fucking aggressive. MrFireUK's was PROVEN pure. I know the whole story about how AspirantCooper started selling an RC as amph, and you called him out on it, and we all make an effort to weed out the shitty dealers anyway. But I HATE false accusations. I KNOW BoyMaster is good, and I believe everyone who says CC is amazing. But I stand by my belief that AC's first batch was 98% PURE. I let that go coz he DID turn into a POS scammer.
But I bothers me when a stand up guy like MrFireUK gets blasted coz some people aren't prepared to have a clean high.
I, for one, DO NOT want to see him get negative reviews, or have him leave, or having him starting cutting his amazing pure shit and making it less pure coz some people didn't like how actual pure felt. I believe anyone who says CC or BMaster is pure, and purer. BUT THE LAST THING I NEED IS SOME GOOD CLEAN AMP getting bad reviews, coz BMaster might be fine to party, but I NEED TO WORK AND NEED TO BE FUNCTIONAL.
I LIKE having something I can keep banging lines of, until I may have even take way too much, but still be physically fine. That I don't have to worry about overheating or getting a seizure and dieing or getting psychosis or whatever. I don't need that shit in my life. My rent and food and drugs don't pay themselves!!
So please don't take this the wrong way, but if your body is weird, and don't like the clean high of MrFireUK, okay, that's prefectly fine! Just don't buy it! :]
BUT DON'T START saying it might not be shit! Just leave it alone, some people need this clean pure.
Again, no offense meant. I just like having some clean amp where I don't have to worry about uncomfortable side effects.
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That being said, I WILL immediately take back anything I said if there is any of HARD PROOF, and apologize. But I've only had good experiences with MrFireUK.
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pachang well done response above. However you are a bit excessive in some claims. First claim, I know for a fact that this will love to adsorb moisture and loves water. It will not simply turn to mush in short order. It can tend to clump and steady under open storage continue to absorb moisture until it is quite wet. . The fact that there is a bit of other impurities as well a clear indication of lactose will help inhibit that effect.
are you sure you don't mean meth*hcl which is slightly hygroscopic and ok to handle as a power. I read that amphetamine*hcl however is so hygroscopic it's becomes a goo quickly if exposed to air (cant find a reliable source unfortunately). that's why the sulfate is produced all the time.
<10% of some cut won't stop that and the test does not state there is lactose in it. its just some generic blabla about inactive fillers.
The salt anions are very easy to determine and while GC MS makes perfect sense there is no reason to believe equally viable to HPLC or even simple thin layer for determinations as well. In case of HPLC the anion is very simple determine by retention time.
you are right they use hplc (they say so on their site) and they certainly could determine the anions. however I am sure they don't and generally slap a hcl everywhere because their reference sample was hcl...
Actually, I don't even have to speculate how they came to their results because I have MrFireUKs new batch in front of me and it:
1. is not hygroscopic at all
2. does not melt&evaporate but instead pyrolizes completely to a blackish/brown lump. And its not only some cut that burns but all of it.
this is enough to convince me
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HCL or Sulphate.. nevermind. It is good that's the point.
@numbering
Can't you read ? I posted the results with a picture and you said that's ritalin wtf ?!
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Hello all, I've tried BoyMaster and Lonely Kamel's speed now.. Marquis test for both of them.
Boymaster: (clearnet url) http://i.imgur.com/xIiLM.jpg Obviously very dark orange marquis, highly pure. 30-40mg and I'm spun so nicely for several hours.. I can go drinking or I can write a paper or I can slay it on the 360...It works for all of it. Highly recommended and rated.
Lonely Kamel: (clearnet url) http://i.imgur.com/wiGhX.jpg Obviously very shitty, hardly any amphetamine in it..150mg for a jittery high. Not recommended.
I'll be ordering some of CapeCrusader's to see how it reacts against BM's, hard to imagine it getting much better :D
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I want to share my opinion about BM's stuff. I did a _huge_ amount of it (for partying & lots of alcohol too) in two days. Buzz is okay/really good, depending how much and how often you're re-dosing. With this stuff you really should do a schedule, this is not the stuff you want to snort/eat/drink in every 15 minutes. :D
I really liked it, clean high and ---> MOST OF ALL = When coming down, there's no million heartbeats in a second, no any type of paranoia or no signs of depression. That's a really good sign of the pureness of the product.
But it definitely keep you up for hours and hours...
Thanks BM! Good stuff (folks, remember take it easy)
~Q~
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I gotta try some of BM's stuff, looks awesome! for <5g is it shipped as lettermail or a package?
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Not sure what to think of all these newbies posting about OldAmsterdam... ::)
It seems really sketchy to me, and it happens almost daily. Should we report this? I mean, no other vendor has newbies reporting positive reviews everyday...something is clearly fishy with this...
I've ordered a couple of times from OldAmsterdam and he just asks (politely) if you want to write something positive on the forum if you like the speed but okay those short (newie) messages aren't really considered as convincing of course.
It doesn't by definition matter if someone is new right but at least give some additional info and maybe equally important try to show some own personality as far as that's possible in this virtual pile of bits and bytes.
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ok guys, let me be honest with all you guys. Im not speed connesiuer. In fact this is my first time taking speed. Its OldAmsterdam. I took it orally, not really sure about the weight but I guess, good enough to take it orally. Well, Im not really sure wheter it is placebo or real thing, but I finish, house chores, watched 1 khan academy organic chemistry video and i guess i digest it well (well, im not college student or something, but i think i have good general chemistry knowledge), and I try listen to some punk shit and i think i get some sort of good feeling from it. Overall, i think its just good, not really "GREAT" (because i dont really know how actually the level of great of speed high) So, i dont think my review can be taken as complete guide to buy OldAmsterdam.
So, i guess thats a fair review huh? I also have bought MrFireUk speed and it not arrived yet. I will give my humble review once i try it.
Btw, i dont think it is good trying to disprove others review because there's no way we really can assure it is the really right thing. My little piece of advice is, let each one of us just give the review and be honest to yourself and others. Thats better !
Peace!
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where is muslix? he likes arguments,right? talking to him in private regularly. obious throw away dont want to ruin my account lol think username fits
MrFireUK's was PROVEN pure.
No ma'm the opposite is the case,let me show you afictional example:
MrFire asks to get his Speed tested,selects unexpierenxed users to test and sends them a 0.25GRAMM example. Users want to earn reputation and test it as best as they can,turns out good. So what has been sent to them was good,but NO evidence that he is selling that. for all we know he sent them Boymasters speed. Could be anything. You will see why the first result is believable and the second isnt. In my fictional example 1 was bought off him but 2 wasnt. He added 800PERCENT of active ingridient,with small pricebump exactly wrhen boymaster arrived. not suspicious.
TESTERS!!!
always post WHAT you tested (bought yourself? how much? when? received for purpose of testing?)
what you PAID if anything
HOW IT LOOKED (PICTURES for users to compare if they have the right stuff)
otherwise these RESULTS are MEANINGLESS. could be anything.
mrfire is trouble. but love his stories, two guys in a lab creating KILOGRAMM amounts, like that show right haha Read back on stories - find all the lies. funny,no?
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@raven, he oded on MrFires first batch. tested at nearly 70PERCENT CAFFEINE (VERY irresponsible to sell). EVERYONE try ingesting 2-3 GRAMMS of caffeine,setup a webcam and show us how you NOT od. Good Luck! No reason to put him down when disagreeing, this is how the flame wars start. Stick to the facts (see you were missing a couple of them?) and no flame war. ez.
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Love you Boymaster, just came home from holiday to find your shipment in my mailbox with an actual big present in in it :).
And of course I just took a line, after a 2 week break and its great - better then expected. Seems like the pH problem you mentioned in your last batch is under control, since its burning less even though its purer. 8)
THX
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@raven, he oded on MrFires first batch. tested at nearly 70PERCENT CAFFEINE (VERY irresponsible to sell). EVERYONE try ingesting 2-3 GRAMMS of caffeine,setup a webcam and show us how you NOT od. Good Luck! No reason to put him down when disagreeing, this is how the flame wars start. Stick to the facts (see you were missing a couple of them?) and no flame war. ez.
If you have been following this thread you will see that MrFireUK had plenty of complaints from his first batch and talked to his supplier about improving for future batches, hence you see the change in test results. I highly doubt that a vendor as reliable and legitimate as MrFire would go to such great lengths to falsify the testing of his product. His second batch clearly did not have the caffeine the first one did. You just sound ridiculous making these outrageous claims.
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I will also add to the noise about BM. I was able to try his today and it is so potent and clean, I love it! Thanks BoyMaster for supplying us with such purity!
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I don't want to start arguments with anyone or be hostile, so sorry if I sound[ed] rude.
But why would you even take 2-3 grams even if it was totally pure? That's asking for trouble one way or the other.
And I have no idea what Fire's first batch was like, I am leaving that batch completely out of the picture. But I'm pretty sure that there's 0% caffeine in his new batch. And again, I think IT IS what it is advertised at, because the effects DO NOT differ at all from Boymaster's old 70% pure batch that was cut with lactose.
And I would very gladly see proof if it's not as pure as it it is supposed to be. I don't like being lied to.
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/c5e6d57e98
CapeCrusader's speed is only, but US$27.50 instead of US$25 like he mentioned.
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/c5e6d57e98
CapeCrusader's speed is only, but US$27.50 instead of US$25 like he mentioned.
Hi
I listed it at $25 but the SR commission pushed it up to $27.5..
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I don't want to start arguments with anyone or be hostile, so sorry if I sound[ed] rude.
But why would you even take 2-3 grams even if it was totally pure? That's asking for trouble one way or the other.
And I have no idea what Fire's first batch was like, I am leaving that batch completely out of the picture. But I'm pretty sure that there's 0% caffeine in his new batch. And again, I think IT IS what it is advertised at, because the effects DO NOT differ at all from Boymaster's old 70% pure batch that was cut with lactose.
And I would very gladly see proof if it's not as pure as it it is supposed to be. I don't like being lied to.
Okay you're happy with the new batch right but I think you also agree that the experience and effects are very subjective. Dozens and dozens of buyers are or were enthusiastic about the previous FireUK caffeine batch and as result the feedback of 2 months ago till the new speed batch is mostly 5/5 with reactions like how good and pure the speed was perceived by many. Let's keep it on that MrFireUk imho doesn't know what he's selling to his customers OR he's acting and ignorant. Mentioning things like "my supplier said this and that" is completely unverifiable and category chupacabra for me personally.
Reagent tests only provide a rough indication nothing more and most people including me are too much used to the average less pure (caffeine) speed on the market somewhere in the 10-30% or 40% range, together with factors like tolerance it's not a good base for determining the purity of 90-100% pure amph/speed powder. :-\
Overall fact is FireUk basically has profit mainly because apparently many buyers are just terrible in judging the speed quality, things he has previously stated on the forum are contradicting with the 65% caff /11% amp lab test result. You wont find real hard proof here in this anonymous place but common sense is a good adviser for predicting the possible positive or negative scenario(s) what's actually going on.
Anyway, personally not so optimistic after paying the money and then actually buying about 3g of caffeine from MRNescafé
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Okay you're happy with the new batch right but I think you also agree that the experience and effects are very subjective. Dozens and dozens of buyers are or were enthusiastic about the previous FireUK caffeine batch and as result the feedback of 2 months ago till the new speed batch is mostly 5/5 with reactions like how good and pure the speed was perceived by many. Let's keep it on that MrFireUk imho doesn't know what he's selling to his customers OR he's acting and ignorant. Mentioning things like "my supplier said this and that" is completely unverifiable and category chupacabra for me personally.
Reagent tests only provide a rough indication nothing more and most people including me are too much used to the average less pure (caffeine) speed on the market somewhere in the 10-30% or 40% range, together with factors like tolerance it's not a good base for determining the purity of 90-100% pure amph/speed powder. :-\
Overall fact is FireUk basically has profit mainly because apparently many buyers are just terrible in judging the speed quality, things he has previously stated on the forum are contradicting with the 65% caff /11% amp lab test result. You wont find real hard proof here in this anonymous place but common sense is a good adviser for predicting the possible positive or negative scenario(s) what's actually going on.
Anyway, personally not so optimistic after paying the money and then actually buying about 3g of caffeine from MRNescafé
Mate honestly now how many of the vendors on here do you think get their stuff actually lab tested before selling it ? Almost none... so pretty much all of them rely on what their suppliers tell them.
The current batch has been lab tested at 92.6% and there is no caffeine in there... if you want to be sure about what you're using the only way is get your stuff analysed at a drug testing lab yourself.
I don't think you can call me ignorant .. at least I'm trying everything I can to make sure that the products I sell are of the highest quality. I actually offered to send out free samples of ALL of my products to trusted members on here to get them tested .. and I also offered to pay them money for this service. I don't see a lot of other vendors do this to be honest...
I also learn from my mistakes .. like when I sold the hoffmann blotters and I've been told they were around 150mcg of LSD - turned out they actually are more in the 50mcg range. I offered compensation to all of my customers who bought them because they were falsely advertised and it was my fault to not make sure how strong they are before selling them so this time I'm waiting for a few reviews to come in before I put up my listings for the new shiva blotters I got .. all while sitting on thousands of those while I could have already sold them all.
I'd say I'm offering a pretty damn good service to my customers and most of the time products of very high quality (my MDMA is pretty much as good as it gets , same goes for my new batch of speed , the cocaine is at least from what I can tell right now very high in purity and no nasty cutting agents used ...) and when I know that the product I'm offering is of low quality like the bush weed I'm selling right now I clearly state this in the listings.
Well I still got dozens of messages to reply to so I better get back to that .. as actually care about answering all questions my customers might have in a timely manner.
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So last night at about 10pm I first took about 30-40mg of BM's stuff and was feeling good off it, although it lacked a certain euphoria. I dosed another round a few hours later and stayed up the whole night. I dosed again in the morning, and one last time several hours ago. I have been hallucinating very drastically since that last line...what is in this stuff? It is extremely strong, but I used to use crystal meth regularly and only after staying up 6 or 7 days would I hallucinate this badly...
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relevant username is back.
Mate honestly now how many of the vendors on here do you think get their stuff actually lab tested before selling it ?
Not much,you didnt either. stop lying.
The current batch has been lab tested at 92.6% and there is no caffeine in there...
WRONG again. sample you sent to testers was 90%, SHIT U SELL IS NOT.
mate,you made the mistake to send ur crap to people doing real 95% the whole week. haha u think we not gonna realize. its not even remotely close. you lied so often,why should anyone believe you.
like when I sold the hoffmann blotters and I've been told they were around 150mcg of LSD - turned out they actually are more in the 50mcg range. I offered compensation to all of my customers who bought them
ALL u did was OFFER AND TALK,nothing else. u a con-man.
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Prices have been adjusted..
$25 for 1 gram of pure and $45 for 2 grams of pure.. These prices now INCLUDE the SR commission..
Thanks
CC
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And by the way I am the supplier of your last negative karma just os you know the straight shooter that I am. I will come straight in and punch you in the mouth not some other pussy bullshit.
I only skipped through your rant, was this directed at me? You seem to have some knowledge but are a much better person than the rest of us, so you don't share? That right? Sounds like a very non-academic and somewhat "American" attitude. Says more about you than me.
Anyway +1 for you to rebalance the force. Sorry I didn't read it.
I have been hallucinating very drastically since that last line...what is in this stuff? It is extremely strong, but I used to use crystal meth regularly and only after staying up 6 or 7 days would I hallucinate this badly...
It's called Amphetamine. Very rarely appears in Speed here on SR. Well known side effect, be careful. Don't take same dosages as from other vendors!
Dont trust me, taken from like 5th hit on google "Amphetamine hallucinations" http://www.narconon.ca/speed.htm
- Sniff a lot in a short space of time and expect hallucinations.
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I know this is probably the wrong place but it has pretty much got the most active Chem heads.. Has anyone tried Ya Ba pills.Normal dose/effect and best way to take em...Just seen them listed and have always been a little curious
DD
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relevant username is back.
Not much,you didnt either. stop lying.
WRONG again. sample you sent to testers was 90%, SHIT U SELL IS NOT.
mate,you made the mistake to send ur crap to people doing real 95% the whole week. haha u think we not gonna realize. its not even remotely close. you lied so often,why should anyone believe you.
ALL u did was OFFER AND TALK,nothing else. u a con-man.
You clearly are a troll.
My offer still stands - and by the way I refunded every single customer that came up to me about the LSD. I send out thousands of $ in refunds .. and that's nothing but the truth matey.
Sorry but now I really gotta stop feeding you :-*
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I didn't get a refund, nor did I even know you are giving them out.
edit: Regarding the test noriega2012 is right, history repeats itself here. This wasn't an independent test from a user buying and then without further notice go to a test-center. He listed what is needed to make it more legit, as long as this is missing it's just a sheet of paper. Just stating facts really.
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I didn't get a refund, nor did I even know you are giving them out.
And I did not even know you bought some of the LSD...
I put an update about this on my vendor page as well as I posted this in both the LSD thread and my feedback thread and probably 3-4 pages in my thread are just going on about this.
Out of security reasons I don't store any data from orders - both mine and the customer's security. So there was no way of contacting every single customer that had ordered some of it - but now you know - send me a message on SR and you will get your refund.
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I've tested fireUK's stuff and it was great - orally active at 50mg doses.
I don't see how it got so many bad reviews, I'll be back for more. 8)
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Then MrFireUk's amphetamine is not HCL, because yesterday I put 200mg on my desk and left it overnight. It still was in powder form, it wasn't even more moist. Then I breathe out a couple of times on the amphetamine and nothing happened.
can anyone verify this to be true?
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Then MrFireUk's amphetamine is not HCL, because yesterday I put 200mg on my desk and left it overnight. It still was in powder form, it wasn't even more moist. Then I breathe out a couple of times on the amphetamine and nothing happened.
can anyone verify this to be true?
I can. Left the whole bag open on my dinner table over night. Window open, slightly raining outside. Nothing changed. Maybe they use HCL equivalent on their result sheets? Don't know, don't really care either. As I don't really like it.
But some confirmation from FireUK would be nice.
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I've tested fireUK's stuff and it was great - orally active at 50mg doses.
I don't see how it got so many bad reviews, I'll be back for more. 8)
Thanks mate !
If you compare the few negative reviews to the vast majority of positive reviews then it's not really a lot. My amphetamine is probably the best selling speed right now and I honestly don't get a lof of complaints on the main page... well but afterall drnarcos cocaine is also the best seller in the coke section so that is probably not a valid point :D
Anyway it's good speed at a good price and I my customer service is second to none, my customers know that and that's all that matters.
I also think that trolls like noriega are not to be taken seriously. I probably must've hurt his feelings (or sales ?) somehow and now he's on a mission or something creating fake accounts to to talk shit ..
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I don't think that my amphetamine is really hygroscopic and to be honest I got no idea if it actually is amphetamine HCL .. and I don't how hygroscopic it is supposed to be either. I thought it was amphetamine sulphate up to that analysis result - I just changed the description afterwards but you might be right , maybe they use the amph-HCL as reference point or whatever..
I will however ask my suppliers about this the next time I talk to them - they will know for sure.
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BM's latest off white/pinky batch (or is that just the bag!) - Meh. Pleasant but not rocket fuel by any means.
I've tested fireUK's stuff and it was great - orally active at 50mg doses.
I will however ask my suppliers about this the next time I talk to them - they will know for sure.
nyone wind similarities?! hahaha ur just not clever enough sorry matey
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So last night at about 10pm I first took about 30-40mg of BM's stuff and was feeling good off it, although it lacked a certain euphoria. I dosed another round a few hours later and stayed up the whole night. I dosed again in the morning, and one last time several hours ago. I have been hallucinating very drastically since that last line...what is in this stuff? It is extremely strong, but I used to use crystal meth regularly and only after staying up 6 or 7 days would I hallucinate this badly...
I did pretty much the same, I snorted around 5 x 40mg over the last 24 hours, but I am still feeling good - listening to psytrance all the time. Could even sleep 90 minutes ;D. This gear is definitely fuckn strong.
But we discussed this earlier speed seems to affect people quite differently, like for me it is pretty much impossible to get high on mdma when I do speed regularly, even when I haven't taken speed in the last 24h..
What concerns me personally is the fact, that I felt way more addicted during my break the last 2 weeks. Doing speed for like 6 years now. I never thought that often about speed before. But well I managed to quit smoking weed and cigarettes, I guess I will be fine.
@Noriega do you mean the "-" I use it a lot as well, but who knows :P.
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BM's latest off white/pinky batch (or is that just the bag!) - Meh. Pleasant but not rocket fuel by any means.
I've tested fireUK's stuff and it was great - orally active at 50mg doses.
I will however ask my suppliers about this the next time I talk to them - they will know for sure.
nyone wind similarities?! hahaha ur just not clever enough sorry matey
And you my friend are suffering from paranoia - try to get some help - seriously - :D
I'm not someone who has to create fake accounts and use them to post false feedback about other vendors .. I've got plenty of business anyway.
Both those members have SR accounts with quite some proper buyer stats - I'm sure I own those accounts as well huh ?
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I know this is probably the wrong place but it has pretty much got the most active Chem heads.. Has anyone tried Ya Ba pills.Normal dose/effect and best way to take em...Just seen them listed and have always been a little curious
DD
Surly someone must have tried Ya Ba.Not much help on meth forum either...
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;D
Here is my latest works....
(link to photo of the Dex tabs and proof of actual purchase!)
<a href="http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=aa16f844ec97cb8dfbf89030f9fb19ae.jpg">The Image</a>
Mr Fire, you are correct. I used speed for a few years back in the day. It is subjective. We all take the same speed and some might not think much others are buzzing like bees.
And to the 'Ya Ba' pills, origin of Thailand and other nations, I seen them, I saw them being used, I turned it down. They seemed to be strong stuff. People awake for 2 days.
And yes, Demarcos coke - top of the charts! Not to point out the obvious but who is buying that low grade coke? I bet a wash would see it reduced 50% then alcohol to get the speed and water to get some other things. Maybe more complicated processes. I'd sooner pay top dolar for coke than grab a bargain gram.
Every bargain gram on here has been shit.
My opinion.
But back to the Dex, anyone else used?
Does it belong in here?
Mr Fire getting any stock of this soon?
;)
Any chance of an oz sample?
(answer: :D Fuck Off)
;D
Laters.
May pop half a Dex.
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Yaba pills come in many different colors. can be smoked. very strong. All I remember atm. Lots of docus on youtube.
RED, I tried the dex. It's the best shit you can get. Pharma grade d-amp. Enjoy while your tolerance is low (me jealous). No one will stock these here. Nice blunt. Just bought new bong 8) Gonna have a smoke now ;D
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I don't think that my amphetamine is really hygroscopic and to be honest I got no idea if it actually is amphetamine HCL .. and I don't how hygroscopic it is supposed to be either. I thought it was amphetamine sulphate up to that analysis result - I just changed the description afterwards but you might be right , maybe they use the amph-HCL as reference point or whatever..
I will however ask my suppliers about this the next time I talk to them - they will know for sure.
I ask them and they said that they write only HCL on the paper. Nevermind if it is Sulphate. Sorry for the confusion.
Why do some people still think he paid me or I posted a fake result etc...
Guys I want the best for everybody.
It is as pure as you can read on the photo and it DOESN'T contain any caffeine or psychedelic stuff.
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noone says you post fake results
can you post picture of sample you tested? how does it look? color,consistency...?
VERY important that people can check and compare if they really have the same shit like you
u know what im sayin? question is not if test is true question is if people really have the same as you got for testing
more information on your sample is needed
I ask them and they said that they write only HCL on the paper. Nevermind if it is Sulphate. Sorry for the confusion.
Why do some people still think he paid me or I posted a fake result etc...
Guys I want the best for everybody.
It is as pure as you can read on the photo and it DOESN'T contain any caffeine or psychedelic stuff.
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This is getting kinda ridiculous.
Is this noriega the same noriega coke dealer who disappeared after he took all the early finalizations he got from the 420 sale? If he is, he needs to get his day ruined, and I'm usually a pretty peaceful girl. If not, well he still needs to be have some sense shaken into him. But since this is getting to be a problem, his idea isn't bad.
People, in the future, DON'T announce you will have it tested, ESPECIALLY when you don't have the gear yet. And taking pictures is a plus, but that's usually not good indicator, plus how many of us can say they have a HD camera?
And yea, someone mentioned that being used to low purity, caffeine cut stuff makes it hard to determine purity based on personal experience. But I'm not used to caffeine cut stuff, even tho I have had it before. I don't like it coz usually it's weak as all hell and I crash after 4 hours and I get hungry and I'm jittery. I've got some serious tolerance going on right now too, but when I get pure I know it. I know coz when even just 50mg gets me going for hours and hours.
Not so important, but I've had hallucinations from speed too, doesn't matter who I've bought from, but only if I've been awake for a long time, and then I wouldn't really call them hallucinations. They're like the really weak visuals you get from LSD when you smoke the weed the next day. Not a big deal. I get audio hallucinations a lot tho, sometimes I think someone said something when they didn't, or that I hear my name being said when I'm in crowds.
I read up on amphetamine psychosis a bit. Wiki says it's not such a change in thinking as it's paranoia and repetitive OCD like behaviour. I feel like I'm being followed by the police, or that everyone is staring at me, or my phone is vibrating all the time, or that my landlord is knocking at the door, the usual stuff.
Any weird stuff coz amphetamine is like the least important thing to me. I have no serious mental disorder like schizophrenia, and I have a VERY strong grounding in reality. I know what's real and what isn't, so if I hear something weird, or see a car parked somewhere too long, or feel paranoid in public transportation, I KNOW I'm imagining shit. Public transportation is still not as fun as it used to be tho. I just always think, if you know everything is cool, and act like everything is cool, everything WILL be cool, and no one will be any smarter to your use.
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Any weird stuff coz amphetamine is like the least important thing to me.
Huh? You're addicted to speed, raven. Or am I getting anything wrong here?
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noone says you post fake results
can you post picture of sample you tested? how does it look? color,consistency...?
VERY important that people can check and compare if they really have the same shit like you
u know what im sayin? question is not if test is true question is if people really have the same as you got for testing
more information on your sample is needed
I ask them and they said that they write only HCL on the paper. Nevermind if it is Sulphate. Sorry for the confusion.
Why do some people still think he paid me or I posted a fake result etc...
Guys I want the best for everybody.
It is as pure as you can read on the photo and it DOESN'T contain any caffeine or psychedelic stuff.
It looks white and clean as it is. The smell is very chemical like amphetamine. It is a dry powder but not bone dry or wet.
The amphetamine looks like the photo on SR from his amph. My friends told me: "I've never taken such good amph before!", and they know what they talk.
The description is 100% true.
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/39b143090b
Buy as long as you can. This is a fucking hot deal.
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Can someone explain to me why i'm receiving no orders? Is there something up with SR?
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Can someone explain to me why i'm receiving no orders? Is there something up with SR?
I am running low on coin,but when I get some more expect an order within a week. It could be because most people that don't read the forums are hesitant to buy from a South African dealer who doesn't yet have a rating (that's their loss!). Give me a few days to get some more coin and I will be ordering 2g.
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Not so important, but I've had hallucinations from speed too, doesn't matter who I've bought from, but only if I've been awake for a long time, and then I wouldn't really call them hallucinations. They're like the really weak visuals you get from LSD when you smoke the weed the next day. Not a big deal. I get audio hallucinations a lot tho, sometimes I think someone said something when they didn't, or that I hear my name being said when I'm in crowds.
I read up on amphetamine psychosis a bit. Wiki says it's not such a change in thinking as it's paranoia and repetitive OCD like behaviour. I feel like I'm being followed by the police, or that everyone is staring at me, or my phone is vibrating all the time, or that my landlord is knocking at the door, the usual stuff.
Any weird stuff coz amphetamine is like the least important thing to me. I have no serious mental disorder like schizophrenia, and I have a VERY strong grounding in reality. I know what's real and what isn't, so if I hear something weird, or see a car parked somewhere too long, or feel paranoid in public transportation, I KNOW I'm imagining shit. Public transportation is still not as fun as it used to be tho. I just always think, if you know everything is cool, and act like everything is cool, everything WILL be cool, and no one will be any smarter to your use.
This. It was very intense visuals and very jumpy and jittery. I guess this is what pure phet does, but its not like any others I had. It honestly is like the shadow visuals and I got easily startled. I took some xanax and valium and am feeling much better. It honestly reminds me of being on a psychedelic or being overly tired, but in the way crystal would make me "tweak out." I just haven't had an experience like this from any of the phet I have ever done before -- but again, if BM's stuff is really 95+% pure with no adulterants, then I would believe it could effect me like this; it just feels so similar to meth. It is just the fact that only after a few doses did it start happening, I wouldn't have expected it so soon. I will be receiving MrFire's new batch soon and I am very interested in the differences -- I will keep you all updated.
I don't think that my amphetamine is really hygroscopic and to be honest I got no idea if it actually is amphetamine HCL .. and I don't how hygroscopic it is supposed to be either. I thought it was amphetamine sulphate up to that analysis result - I just changed the description afterwards but you might be right , maybe they use the amph-HCL as reference point or whatever..
I will however ask my suppliers about this the next time I talk to them - they will know for sure.
I ask them and they said that they write only HCL on the paper. Nevermind if it is Sulphate. Sorry for the confusion.
Why do some people still think he paid me or I posted a fake result etc...
Guys I want the best for everybody.
It is as pure as you can read on the photo and it DOESN'T contain any caffeine or psychedelic stuff.
Is there any easy way me in America can get easy access to a testing service or would I have to send it out to ecstacydata.org or some Dutch testing site for a hefy fee?
Anyways sorry for the long post, I just wanted to clear up my previous statement. It's too bad the US is so against safe drug use that they don't offer testing services!
Ok I'll shut up now, maybe its time for a small more bump to see what happens :) .
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Can someone explain to me why i'm receiving no orders? Is there something up with SR?
As soon as I get some coins out of escrow (why does it take 3 more days to release coins after autofinalize anyway?) I shall certainly be purchasing some more of your Cape Town Marching Powder.
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Why are so many people doubting the validity of the test of MRFireUK's speed?
Instead of fighting about this I would appreciate if you gave reasons.
I don't want to read page-long accusations and fighting. That makes it really hard to get a good overview of what's really going on.
1. Did Flyerz tell him he was going to test it BEFORE ordering the sample?
2. Did you test it yourself and did not like it, so you doubt the test for that reason?
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Anyone commenting about hallucinating or being delisuional from speed use, here is the reason:
-An extreme case would be considered acute psychosis, which I've experienced and you just don't feel yourself, paranoid, hallucinating audio and visual. Among these symptoms you can lose sense of what is right and wrong, yet be aware of your misjudgment.. It's scary shit. This is caused by an overload of dopamine in the brain. Anti-psychotics prescribed for various mental ailments such as schizophrenia are treated with medication that reduces dopamine levels in your brain.
-A milder case as was described as getting hallucinations (esp. auditory or peripheral vision hallucinations), this is simply sleep deprivation being masked to a degree by stimulant use, or just taking a bit too much at once. Basically if you feel this you need sleep or need to lower your consumption. So if you're well rested and experience this it is likely because you OD'd on the stimulant (assuming what you took was in fact speed or meth, or another non psychadelic stim).
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This is a follow up to my previous reviews/comparisons of NBOME, MrFire, cape crusader...I have now had ample time to test out BoyMaster's gear. It is very good, I would say it is slightly more d-amphetamine'ish than CC's. . As mentioned before, all of their amp looked good per the simon's and marq. reagents.
After taking a few days off the great amp I already had so I could properly test BM's I started with 60mg orally. Great euphoria, mood elevation, energy (A little too much--good), chatty, great social) a little all over the place, re-dosed 20mg a few hours later and could have gone for 8 hours if I had not needed to take a sleeping pill.
As I see it there is a tie for my favorite party amphetamine between BM (All other things equal, maybe a slight edge) and CC. BM did add an extra gram to my ten so that did bring down the price, but his packaging was not nearly as good as CC's. So considering pricing, packaging, and delivery time BM's slight quality preference is not enough to take my top spot. Cape Crusader is my number one party (Overall favorite) amphetamine.
Just as important to me (I have ADD and study a lot) is a stimulant that helps with focus, energy, alertness, productiveness. Mr. Fire's is hands down the amphetamine for me. NBOME's is also good, just need a little more and it is a little more expensive. No mood swings, no strong crave for more, no shakiness, minimal insomnia (If given at least 8 hours), and no real come down or hang over. Also, in my 5 day binge I found it to be a really nice addition to either BM's or CC's.
Overall I would recommend to have all three in your medicine bag. They are great to rotate. A big thank you to each of the above vendors for bringing such high quality items that until recently has been a dead deal. ;D
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I don't think you can call me ignorant .. at least I'm trying everything I can to make sure that the products I sell are of the highest quality. I actually offered to send out free samples of ALL of my products to trusted members on here to get them tested .. and I also offered to pay them money for this service. I don't see a lot of other vendors do this to be honest...
I also learn from my mistakes ..
Okay one last question then, I was specifically aiming at the situation with the old batch.
Look at it from my side, the speed was advertised as very good quality. Feedback is good and you have also mentioned on the forum that it was something around 50% pure and the new pure batch would be about 2x as strong. With pretty high expectations I'd ordered a couple of grams shipped from GER and it turned out to be more similar as caffeine and not really potent. I also mentioned that briefly on the forum, some time after that the stuff was tested 65% caff / 11% amp. Have you got a good explanation for this??
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So waiting on three orders to Aus.
Boymaster, CC and Mrfire.
Hope to make a comprehensive comparison side by side..
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Can someone explain to me why i'm receiving no orders? Is there something up with SR?
As soon as I get some coins out of escrow (why does it take 3 more days to release coins after autofinalize anyway?) I shall certainly be purchasing some more of your Cape Town Marching Powder.
Autofinalize has autofinalized. A gram of CC's amp sulfate has been ordered and within a few days the Grand Wizard is going to be shouting "DANS DANS DANS IK WILL FOOKIN FOOKIN DANS!!!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yWeMIALolY
Hoos Ja!
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Why are so many people doubting the validity of the test of MRFireUK's speed?
Instead of fighting about this I would appreciate if you gave reasons.
I don't want to read page-long accusations and fighting. That makes it really hard to get a good overview of what's really going on.
1. Did Flyerz tell him he was going to test it BEFORE ordering the sample?
2. Did you test it yourself and did not like it, so you doubt the test for that reason?
Sticking to the facts again.
FUK's gear is just not up2par compared to BM & CC. Three irl friends came to the same conclusion, without knowing any of this. Result was unanimous. those are really the only people I trust when it comes to an opinion on speed. We have combined >50 (?) years of experience, can fool one of us but never all of us.
1. he got the sample specifically for testing. MFUK asked who can test and then sent samples to those guys for labtesting. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure. The only info we got regarding sample is a description that fits 50% of the stuff being sold here. No offense Flyerz, it needs as least a high res-pic to convince me.
2. yes tested myself, had all three side by side. Just looking at all 3 was enough for my friends (who again didn't know anything about this) or me to get suspicious.
and yes, as stated above, incl. me 4 people irl doubt those results (and a shitload of people online, judging my PMs), 3 of those never knew about anything before they came to the conclusion. Needed to rule myself out as influencing factor.
As I said before: I don't really care, I don't like the speed, I'm not buying. For above reasons. I made up my mind, no sheet of (suspicious) paper will change it. Even if it's totally correct, it is in my opinion still not in the same league as BM & CC.
I only have very little time this week, this should cover 99% over private questions, no offense to anyone, but you can now stop asking me. I suggest everyone buy 1g from all vendors and make up your own mind. If you haven't tested all 3, you should shut up when comparing. Think for yourself and find your favorite. Again really just stating the facts or my opinion wherever it is marked as such. (My subjective rating thus far: 1. ex aequo: BM & CC, long nothing 6.GE 7.FUK - judging from exactly the bags I got, not yours, nothing else. YMMV This matches btw the general consensus from sample-reviewers of 2nd batch. Everyone forget at apparently)
@raven: I think you got the reference. Dig a lil deeper. I know who this is, obviously not Noriega the coke guy. Imho he's doing this to get you guys thinking. Also IMHO it doesn't work. As (I think it was) aakoven said: "people are begging to get ripped off". After 4 months on here buying speed, I finally agree. This is not a statement regarding FUK but about this speed buying thing here as a whole. That's also why I'll soon "retire" from this account, reincarnate myself and stay the hell away from this thread. :)
I wish more people here would think for themselves and stop following me or some advertisement like sheep.
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I didn't get a refund, nor did I even know you are giving them out.
And I did not even know you bought some of the LSD...
You have a pretty bad memory then.
Another thing: I have no "beef" regarding this with anyone, FireUK stated in his last batch are max. 200mg caffeine. It was more than 3x the amount.
Still most dealers don't know what they actually sell, so I am still pretty neutral or I would have never bought again.
I really don't have the time atm to care much about any of this.
IMHO FUK didn't do himself a favor with this test (or better: how this test was implemented, everyone who is into "practical statistics" (weird translation, sorry) will agree) , everything OK or not, judging from subjective point of view, there's more people now suspicious than ever before. Just stating what I read really.
Sorry for not answering privately to everyone who wants to discuss/talk about somethong that cannot be answered with these two posts. Will do asap.
edit:just to make that clear, I do appreciate all the sincere *discussions* in private and I also appreciate people who disagree with me as long as they do it in a somewhat scientific way and don't attack me personal. Thanks for your attention I am out again.
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Why are so many people doubting the validity of the test of MRFireUK's speed?
Instead of fighting about this I would appreciate if you gave reasons.
I don't want to read page-long accusations and fighting. That makes it really hard to get a good overview of what's really going on.
1. Did Flyerz tell him he was going to test it BEFORE ordering the sample?
2. Did you test it yourself and did not like it, so you doubt the test for that reason?
I asked for a sample of his batch. I posted a reply to this forum after it was sent to me.
Another thing: I have no "beef" regarding this with anyone, FireUK stated in his last batch are max. 200mg caffeine. It was more than 3x the amount.
Still most dealers don't know what they actually sell, so I am still pretty neutral or I would have never bought again.
I really don't have the time atm to care much about any of this.
He bought his old batch from a dealer who bought it from the lab. The dealer cutted it with 650mg caffeine per gram and sold it as good amphetamine ( everybody knows that sentence ). That's his old amphetamine, but NOW ( his latest batch ) is 92.6% pure. That's the truth. I swear !
I'll edit in a photo when I'm done with learning.
Here you are : http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3004/y8lghfof_jpg.htm
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Any weird stuff coz amphetamine is like the least important thing to me.
Huh? You're addicted to speed, raven. Or am I getting anything wrong here?
No, I am definitely am. What I meant is that I usually ignore any weird ideas I get when I'm on speed (which is always).
Sometimes I try to write stuff down as fast as it's going through my head, sorry.
I only had a really bad psychosis once, when I was just starting out. Sorta of a mildly bad LSD trip. It happened coz I didn't eat or drink enough, wasn't well rested, and wasn't used to speed in higher doses. I made myself eat a sandwich and lie down and shut my eyes until I felt better.
It's pretty important for chronic users to force themselves to have a normal diet and schedule. Sleeping less than 4 hours a day is pretty exhausting, I make sure to get my beauty sleep. I also noticed a diet with slightly more dairy than what you would normally eat is healthy for speed users. Milk has L-tyrosine, which has the advantage of being digested easily by the body as food, but restores dopamine and noradrenaline so you won't be turning your neurotransmitters to slush as quickly. L-tyrosine vitamin pills are a bad idea tho, esp. for frequent users. When used to close to the time as speed, it can dangerously potentiate negative effects, as well as actually increasing tolerance due to up regulation. I wouldn't recommend it for anybody except weekend users.
Having a tolerance actually helps the body better deal with potential dangers of speed use like over heating, stroke, and psychosis.
Proof (clearnet!): http://www.acnp.org/g4/GN401000166/CH162.htm#SSAT
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Thank you all for replying about my hallucinations. Lack of sleep, plus the usage of BM created a psychosis exactly as described. I am an experienced user, but I was just shocked that after such a small amount of BMs stuff I entered such a strong state of psychosis, one that I had only experienced with binges on methamphetamine combined with no sleep. BM's stuff is by far the most pure speed I have ever encountered. The amount I did over that day relative to my many other experiences was so small, I am again amazed how strong this stuff is. As everyone has said before, if any new users are reading this, start small (which I thought I was doing)!
Also, my MrFireUK order just arrived. It's slightly more wet that BMs (looks like juergen's medical phosphate did) and smells just like BMs, but is whiter in color. I am not sure if I want to try it while still on BMs so they don't mix. I will keep you all updated when I try it.
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I think I replied to that yesterday. Auditory and visual hallucinations are fairly common, for me a sign that I should soon stop. Was kinda surprised it's the first time you have experienced this. Not necessarily a psychosis.
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I think I replied to that yesterday. Auditory and visual hallucinations are fairly common, for me a sign that I should soon stop. Was kinda surprised it's the first time you have experienced this. Not necessarily a psychosis.
Well like I said, I had never experienced such strong visuals from any amphetamine alone. It was just like LSD. I wouldn't have posted about them if I felt like I had done too much. I had only done around 80mg - 100mg over a whole day (my guess). I am well rested now after taking a day break and just insufflated about 40-50mg and I now again noticing the visualizations, this time not as prominent, but it is definitely there. I feel fine, the dose was not too much, so I am still curious what the hell is causing this (not that it is uncomfortable). I am curious if MrFire's will do the same thing.
Also, I have noticed that taking a benzo like xanax or valium greatly helps me out when this happens.
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Well like I said, I had never experienced such strong visuals from any amphetamine alone. It was just like LSD. I wouldn't have posted about them if I felt like I had done too much.
Totally get it, points to good speed. Can be very scary if they just come out of nowhere. But not really like LSD :) Try Vitacat's Maya (currently in stock) 250ug :) It's quite different 8)
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I have plenty of 3Jane's sitting around waiting for the proper day :). It of course is different because lsd is the most amazing psychedelic (that and mescaline). Like when I look at my keyboard right now, each key appears to be growing in size where the shadows around them are lol. Anyways, that is good to know it is normal and from legit speed.
Out of curiosity, is there a way for us in the USA to get our substances professionally tested (GC/MS) like was done here? I know Europe has the better drug safety laws and allows this, but I wouldn't want to send my products overseas. I know ecstacydata will take stuff, but they charge a hefty fee. Is my reagent kit my best bet?
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It's very noticeable in the dark, it's like your brain inserts some weird shapes that your eyes can't see anymore. Auditory I can't remember having that strong either. You here some far away voices, that you usually can't understand but your brain interprets them somehow so you actually can make out words. That's my way of thinking about that..
3jane? 8) wanna trade? I have some FireUK if you want :)
I only know that ecstasydata is slightly overpriced. You can always ask the DEA ;D
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It's very noticeable in the dark, it's like your brain inserts some weird shapes that your eyes can't see anymore. Auditory I can't remember having that strong either. You here some far away voices, that you usually can't understand but your brain interprets them somehow so you actually can make out words. That's my way of thinking about that..
3jane? 8) wanna trade? I have some FireUK if you want :)
I only know that ecstasydata is slightly overpriced. You can always ask the DEA ;D
It is right now because it is mellow, but two days ago I was seeing things in clear daylight haha.
But I am down to trade, however I didn't hear many great things about MrFire's haha. What do you suggest?
Maybe there are some testing places in Canada? I'll have to look into it.
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It is right now because it is mellow, but two days ago I was seeing things in clear daylight haha.
But I am down to trade, however I didn't hear many great things about MrFire's haha. What do you suggest?
well, i was promised 5.5, received 4.9, had about: 1, my friends had max 0.3-0.5, so 3.5 should be left that no one wants :-[
how much is that in 3janes? :) half? lol
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I ordered 2g from BM recently, and it showed up this morning looking professionally packed and sealed. :-)
The last batch I had was the first FireUK batch was my last batch, and I finished with a 1g blast of a night. To be fair, this felt quite good. I have a high caffeine tolerance with coffee intake, so maybe this helps if it was cut with that. Although at the end of the binge, at around 8am, I was dis-coordinated, head-rushy when standing, but after 1g, and no sleep, all sorts of shit can happen.
Caffeine is so often a cut, that perhaps even I expect it, and it's side effects.
I hope BMs speed shows me the light. I don't think I can review it for a week though, I need a break. :-)
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Message me on the road, it's more secure. My name is the same here but without the last period. We can figure something out, but I am not exactly sure what you mean by 5.5, 4.9, etc. I assume you mean 5.5 tabs?
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He bought his old batch from a dealer who bought it from the lab. The dealer cutted it with 650mg caffeine per gram and sold it as good amphetamine ( everybody knows that sentence ). That's his old amphetamine, but NOW ( his latest batch ) is 92.6% pure. That's the truth. I swear !
first: thank you, that was very helpful!
how do you know that latest batch is really what you tested? dont just trust anyone, lots of scammers on here
let me explain:
Here you are : http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3004/y8lghfof_jpg.htm
THIS looks like amphetamine SULPHATE
if you order from boymaster you will receive shit that looks like this but is more brown
(saw pictures showing capes shit in bag,looks VERY similar)
if you order from mrfire,stuff you will receive DOESNT LOOK LIKE THIS
its more grainy,more coarse,not so smooth at all
im sorry to tell you flyerz,he is abusing your results to sell bad speed. thats very sad
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here you can see MrFire lying to muslix about the amount of caffeine in first batch:
After reading this thread I talked to my supplier .. he says he uses both caffeine and lactose to cut it but assured me that 1g of his product would never contain more than 200mg of caffeine...
muslix says he get nausea/vomiting with >400MG so it is safe to take 2GRAMM? according to mrfire it is!
now we know it has 650MG PER GRAMM, that makes 1300MG for 2GRAMM
while muslix thought it is safe to do 2GRAMM, Mrfire says its only 400MG MAX!!, in reality he did 1300MG!!
so here you can see Mrfire lying will result in health damage of his customer! VERY IRRESPONSIBLE!!
dont believe everything Mrfire says!!
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Why has CC got so little feedback on his vendor page?
Seems like quite a few people have tried his gear on the forums, but has fuck all feed back?
When i first listed i had very little stock.. Most of my stock i sent out as samples and not actual orders thats why i only have feedback for like 9 transactions..
Thanks
CC
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Message me on the road, it's more secure. My name is the same here but without the last period. We can figure something out, but I am not exactly sure what you mean by 5.5, 4.9, etc. I assume you mean 5.5 tabs?
Grams maybe?
I highly doubt he is talking about 5.5 grams of LSD, that's like 55,000 doses. Ohh, maybe müslix was referring to MrFire's phet. I was confused because MrFireUK had some LSD recently that müslix said he had bought.
@noriega2012 Man you are really pissed off! Did you buy a really large quantity off him or something? I just received 2g of MrFire's phet and will be trying it later and I hope I don't end up feeling like you do :-/
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Here you are : http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3004/y8lghfof_jpg.htm
THIS looks like amphetamine SULPHATE
if you order from boymaster you will receive shit that looks like this but is more brown
(saw pictures showing capes shit in bag,looks VERY similar)
if you order from mrfire,stuff you will receive DOESNT LOOK LIKE THIS
its more grainy,more coarse,not so smooth at all
im sorry to tell you flyerz,he is abusing your results to sell bad speed. thats very sad
FWIW, when I ordered jeurgen's medical grade amphetamine phosphate a few months ago it was a slightly wet and very fine white powder. It was good speed (of course nothing compared to BM), so looks don't really tell you much about the composition of a powdered substance...
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cant sleep thanks to bm.
@noriega2012 Man you are really pissed off! Did you buy a really large quantity off him or something? I just received 2g of MrFire's phet and will be trying it later and I hope I don't end up feeling like you do :-/
not pissed no. made my peace with it,lost money to a scammer again,like i did with the original noriega coke scam about six months ago
im just tryin to make people think and not believe everything a scumbag drugdealer tells them
not going well so far as muslix pointed out :(
its very obvious now that the sample that was tested is not the actual currently sold batch,thanks to Flyerz1934 (thanks for your honesty bro!)
FWIW, when I ordered jeurgen's medical grade amphetamine phosphate a few months ago it was a slightly wet and very fine white powder. It was good speed (of course nothing compared to BM), so looks don't really tell you much about the composition of a powdered substance...
Thats correct of course,but wasnt the point here
mrfire claims that what flyerz1934 tested at 92% is exactly what he sells
flyerz1934 posted a picture of what he tested
now everyone can compare if the stuff they received looks like what flyerz1934 tested at 92%,if not like mine its all just a scam to make buyers believe they are buying 92%
you think people would notice that? a few do,most dont
problem comes when people know they can take 500mg of mrfire 92% speed thinking it is real 92%
now they try same amount from bm and end up in hospital,its not just extreme crapy thing to do,but also very dangerous
besides me and muslix noone cares about that,very sad :-[
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Why has CC got so little feedback on his vendor page?
Seems like quite a few people have tried his gear on the forums, but has fuck all feed back?
When i first listed i had very little stock.. Most of my stock i sent out as samples and not actual orders thats why i only have feedback for like 9 transactions..
Thanks
CC
And me buying all of it up stealth......yum, yum.
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I leave you kids alone in the thread for a while, and you add eight pages while I'm gone!? GTFO! When am I supposed to find the time to read through all that? I'll need to schedule a speed binge just to catch up. How about you all stay quiet until, say, monday next week?
Show some respect for the subnormals!
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Why has CC got so little feedback on his vendor page?
Seems like quite a few people have tried his gear on the forums, but has fuck all feed back?
When i first listed i had very little stock.. Most of my stock i sent out as samples and not actual orders thats why i only have feedback for like 9 transactions..
Thanks
CC
And me buying all of it up stealth......yum, yum.
Lol yes i could probably turn a decent profit by going into stealth and only supplying you ;D
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Not if I can get in first !
I've tried MrFire and Boymaster ,both are excellent, but CapeCrusader's Amp is definitely out in front and quite possibly the best I've ever tried in the last 25+years..(if the quality stays the same as the original sample)
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Not if I can get in first !
I've tried MrFire and Boymaster ,both are excellent, but CapeCrusader's Amp is definitely out in front and quite possibly the best I've ever tried in the last 25+years..(if the quality stays the same as the original sample)
I believe it will.
Very interesting to see such extremely mixed FUK results. did you know first batch only had 10% amp? pretty much the rest was caffeine...
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and until my wee little order arives from BM and is safely inside my bloodstream, I'm saying whats in transit from BM is only 10% too :D
I bet 3.5G of FUK's speed, that the very moment it actually hits your bloodstream it will jump to >95% haha hope you are prepared bro :)
When it's over and you survived, then we can talk FUK ;D
edit: feel free to speak your mind though, I'd appreciate it if someone did that for once
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reagent test? I can make that right away. But it's the sort of speed that doesn't need a reagent. Once it hits your bloodstream, and it will hit, you will know. No reagent needed. The first hit will tell you everything.
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its very obvious now that the sample that was tested is not the actual currently sold batch,thanks to Flyerz1934 (thanks for your honesty bro!)
mrfire claims that what flyerz1934 tested at 92% is exactly what he sells
flyerz1934 posted a picture of what he tested
now everyone can compare if the stuff they received looks like what flyerz1934 tested at 92%,if not like mine its all just a scam to make buyers believe they are buying 92%
Can a few people do this?; compare their MrFireUk's last batch to the picture of Flyerz1934? I did, and my speed looks the same as Flyerz1934 tested speed. Flyerz1934 pic: http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3004/y8lghfof_jpg.htm
Question for Flyerz1934: did mrFUK know that you were going to test your speed before your speed order arrived?
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VERY curious about what CC's feels like. Hopefully arriving soon :)
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its very obvious now that the sample that was tested is not the actual currently sold batch,thanks to Flyerz1934 (thanks for your honesty bro!)
mrfire claims that what flyerz1934 tested at 92% is exactly what he sells
flyerz1934 posted a picture of what he tested
now everyone can compare if the stuff they received looks like what flyerz1934 tested at 92%,if not like mine its all just a scam to make buyers believe they are buying 92%
Can a few people do this?; compare their MrFireUk's last batch to the picture of Flyerz1934? I did, and my speed looks the same as Flyerz1934 tested speed.
Mine is not a powder at all like on flyerz pic (http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3004/y8lghfof_jpg.htm).
Will make a pic.
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Can a few people do this?; compare their MrFireUk's last batch to the picture of Flyerz1934? I did, and my speed looks the same as Flyerz1934 tested speed.
Mine is not like flyerz1934 at all either. As I said previously, if you have BM and/or CC next to it, it will be very easy to tell the difference.
Can you post a pic of yours please?
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Here's the pic of MrFireUK's speed I got:
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/tv6ci
Please do all compare who has got MrFireUK's last batch. Is it more like mine or more like flyerz?
Maybe - as I mentioned before - a selective scam.
What I've noticed apart from that: The smell is stronger each time I sniff. VERY fishy.
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Can you post a pic of yours please?
8======o
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Question for Flyerz1934: did mrFUK know that you were going to test your speed before your speed order arrived?
My guess: all 250mg samples were 92%, especially those that went to .ch or .nl. Who gives out 250mg samples?! I got 1g for free with my BM order.
here's mine (ordered 5G about two weeks ago):
this is what flyerz1934 tested
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=bd7b0270fc5490549e312ee1d5094a58.jpg
this is mine, has been in the drawer for 1.5 weeks, untouched (I left something near the window overnight, this is not included here)
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=bc4251eb33fa6c22f294f9b09f63205c.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=7b33f06693d8bf253c1b0c0934b2f2b5.jpg
MOAR pics!!
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Can you post a pic of yours please?
8======o
What does that mean?
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Can you post a pic of yours please?
8======o
Did BM arrive? ;D
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Can a few people do this?; compare their MrFireUk's last batch to the picture of Flyerz1934? I did, and my speed looks the same as Flyerz1934 tested speed.
Mine is not like flyerz1934 at all either. As I said previously, if you have BM and/or CC next to it, it will be very easy to tell the difference.
Can you post a pic of yours please?
Sure;
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ewuoo
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/ewuoo.jpg
The quality isn't even that bad for a 3.2mp telephone camera (:
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Can a few people do this?; compare their MrFireUk's last batch to the picture of Flyerz1934? I did, and my speed looks the same as Flyerz1934 tested speed.
Mine is not like flyerz1934 at all either. As I said previously, if you have BM and/or CC next to it, it will be very easy to tell the difference.
Can you post a pic of yours please?
Sure;
woops, will update in 5 mins
The quality isn't even that bad for a 3.2mp telephone camera (:
where?
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Here's the pic of MrFireUK's speed I got:
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/tv6ci
Please do all compare who has got MrFireUK's last batch. Is it more like mine or more like flyerz?
Maybe - as I mentioned before - a selective scam.
What I've noticed apart from that: The smell is stronger each time I sniff. VERY fishy.
this is mine, has been in the drawer for 1.5 weeks, untouched (I left something near the window overnight, this is not included here)
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=bc4251eb33fa6c22f294f9b09f63205c.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=7b33f06693d8bf253c1b0c0934b2f2b5.jpg
MOAR pics!!
To muslix and numbering: I got to admit; it definitely looks different then my speed, mine is clear white fine powder without clumpy little speed balls. And numbering's speed seems to be a little yellow.
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Flyerz' sample seems to be really dry and powdery and is tested for almost maximum purity of normal Amph sulfate, so there shouldn't be much Amphetamine freebase left in there that can evaporate, if any at all.
I guess crushing Fire's other speed (the more rocky kind posted here) with mortar and pestle, and letting it sit on a radiator for some time should be doing the trick (don't forget to weight it before/after and post results).
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http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ewuoo
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/ewuoo.jpg
The quality isn't even that bad for a 3.2mp telephone camera (:
yea, it kinda is :P mine is a phone cam also, like 2.5yrs old. :)
Flyerz' sample seems to be really dry and powdery and is tested for almost maximum purity of normal Amph sulfate, so there shouldn't be much Amphetamine freebase left in there that can evaporate, if any at all.
I guess crushing Fire's other speed (the more rocky kind posted here) with mortar and pestle, and letting it sit on a radiator for some time should be doing the trick (don't forget to weight it before/after and post results).
It'll look different, but how does this help me? :)
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As soon as amphetamine is manufactured it will be a very wet paste.. If you let it dry just like that it will dry into one solid rock/chunk. If you break it up as it dries it becomes finer. However to get it into a very fine powder you would have to chop it up with a credit card or some other tool. With this latest batch of mine i did not have the time to chop everything up into a very fine powder so you will still find a few soft chunks or rocks that can be easily crushed into a powder with your fingers or credit card or something else.. It doesn't mean that the quality or purity is poorer.. You just have to take a few minutes to chop it up :)
Hope this info helps..
Thanks
CC
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Can a few people do this?; compare their MrFireUk's last batch to the picture of Flyerz1934? I did, and my speed looks the same as Flyerz1934 tested speed.
Mine is not like flyerz1934 at all either. As I said previously, if you have BM and/or CC next to it, it will be very easy to tell the difference.
Can you post a pic of yours please?
Sure;
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ewuoo
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/ewuoo.jpg
The quality isn't even that bad for a 3.2mp telephone camera (:
Wow, that's really a different gear.
He or his partner definitely sent out two sorts of speed.
I would be interested in raven's type.
And please all give me karma now because I was right from the beginning with my statements that this speed is low quality!
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Two days ago I received my order from MrFireuk. 25Gr
It was well packed and I got my 10% bonus because of FE.
Me and my girlfriend used it immediately but we were not convinced about the purity.
Personal I think It is no more then 20 or 30 % but we will see next friday
I used about 1 gr in 24 hours and she did 0.5 gr in 24 hours and that is too much for a purity of 92 %.
So today I went to a test centre in Groningen with a sample.
I will post the results next friday.
The results until now are.
AAkoven 5 % speed 31 % cafeine and some fenylaceton 3months ago.
Boymaster second batch two months ago 41% speed no cafeine.
OldAmsterdam two samples 6 and 4 weeks ago.The first sample 49 % speed and no cafeine and the second sample 27% speed and 46% cafeine.
You can divide these results by 0.73 because in the Netherlands they have a maximum of 72/73 %.
Regards speedie
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My recent order of MrFire's is extremely white and damp powder with a few lumps. The only other speed I have seen that is this white was jeurgen's medical grade. I feel like the best speed is usually never completely white (GE's, BM's, etc). I will update in a couple hours when I dose myself with the same amount that I did with BM. If they are similar in purity, I will be able to tell.
Awesome pics everyone, its amazing how much each order differed in color and texture!
@speedie: if you can't get 100% amphetamine, then why would you divide by 72? The test results should account for that, right?
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Well, back from vacation and school starting again next week, so I got time again to discuss on the board 8)
@speedie: if you can't get 100% amphetamine, then why would you divide by 72? The test results should account for that, right?
There is no snortable 100% pure amphetamine.
When you have 100% pure amphetamine it's a free base and it will be in a oil-form. There has to be at least 27% salt to make the free base a powder (and thus snortable).
That is why test results can be maximum 73% amphetamine purity, because the other 27% is a salt :)
Also base amphetamine is apolar (talking molecular level here) which makes it hydrophobic and thus it will dissolve rather bad inside your body.. making it useless.
When it's a salt the amphetamine is polar and it will dissolve better inside you.
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I'm not sure those pictures of MrFireUK prove anything. Mine looked like the a slightly yellow solid paste when I took pieces out of the bag it cutup to a powder pretty easily. I would think if I left it out of the bag to dry up completely overnight it would be easy to crush it up to a powder like in the original sample. Like CapeCrusader said as it dries it goes from a paste to some powder to being able to be crushed/cut into all powder.
I've given it to three other people two liked it because it was really clean without to much rush/addrenalin one didn't because there wasn't enough rush. I'm interested in Speedies though to see if it's different from the sample tested. I think it's a bit far fetched to be calling scam just because you don't like someones product that clearly a lot of people do.
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Im getting fully suss on mrfire at this point, my mind wont be changed until his package turns up or some has some conclusive test results, seems like there is only one person talking his shit up.....
Let me know how it goes man, I'm in the same boat but ordered just last night.
Review on your other speed orders to AUS would be good, looking to get the best I can in.
Cheers.
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Two days ago I received my order from MrFireuk. 25Gr
It was well packed and I got my 10% bonus because of FE.
Me and my girlfriend used it immediately but we were not convinced about the purity.
Personal I think It is no more then 20 or 30 % but we will see next friday
I used about 1 gr in 24 hours and she did 0.5 gr in 24 hours and that is too much for a purity of 92 %.
AAkoven 5 % speed 31 % cafeine and some fenylaceton 3months ago.
Boymaster second batch two months ago 41% speed no cafeine.
OldAmsterdam two samples 6 and 4 weeks ago.The first sample 49 % speed and no cafeine and the second sample 27% speed and 46% cafeine.
You can divide these results by 0.73 because in the Netherlands they have a maximum of 72/73 %.
Just logged in for +1 and to say thank you.
Totally agree with you on FireUK. I also had 1g on an evening/a night. I guesstimated it at 30-40% max :) Please keep it up and report back with results for FireUK.
These are probably the most legit numbers ever posted in this thread. It just fits. Do dutch guys estimate purity in base equivalent also? :)
read a bit back, yes I read all 4 posts:
I am wondering why there are no more guys or girls bringing a sample to a testcentre here in Holland because its free anonymous and there are plenty off them. I guess about fifteen so most off you don't have too travel very far.
That my friend is a VERY good question 8) ;D ;D aren't here one or two guys from that country? looks like they're hiding ;D Maybe we should start a reward system, testing once gets you 1g of BM or CC at random. We would have test results on everything very quick ;D
@MSRMYL: why oh why?! you seem to know this thread :( Hope you didn't order much. speedie did a good job summarizing how FUK's current batch really is.
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Im getting fully suss on mrfire at this point, my mind wont be changed until his package turns up or some has some conclusive test results, seems like there is only one person talking his shit up.....
Let me know how it goes man, I'm in the same boat but ordered just last night.
Review on your other speed orders to AUS would be good, looking to get the best I can in.
Cheers.
No problems..
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Do dutch guys estimate purity in base equivalent also? :)
No mate, in sulfate :)
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Alright just ordered 2g from CapeCrusader.. let's see how good this stuff really is :D
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Well, back from vacation and school starting again next week, so I got time again to discuss on the board 8)
@speedie: if you can't get 100% amphetamine, then why would you divide by 72? The test results should account for that, right?
There is no snortable 100% pure amphetamine.
When you have 100% pure amphetamine it's a free base and it will be in a oil-form. There has to be at least 27% salt to make the free base a powder (and thus snortable).
That is why test results can be maximum 73% amphetamine purity, because the other 27% is a salt :)
Also base amphetamine is apolar (talking molecular level here) which makes it hydrophobic and thus it will dissolve rather bad inside your body.. making it useless.
When it's a salt the amphetamine is polar and it will dissolve better inside you.
I see what you mean. But none of his results showed anything higher than 72% that he just listed. Plus the tests were showing percentages for amphetamine HCL/sulfate/whatever which could be 100% pure if the stuff was never adulterated and made flawlessly. For example, the test result for MrFire's batch, IIRC, showed ~92% purity because they were referring to the concentration of amphetamine salt in the mixture, which can reach up to 100% in theory.
It reminds me of the whole "MDMA can only be 84% pure" saying people love repeating. No one buys freebase MDMA that I know of, so it is ridiculous to talk about pure molly as "really only being 84% pure max" because you need the salt bonded to it in order to ingest the drug. True "84% pure MDMA" is 100% pure MDMA salt, which is what everyone ingests, so lets leave it at that.
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Yes I agree that the 73% (or 72, whatever) actually 'is' 100% pure, but that's just the way they test here in Holland :)
And IMO it's the only correct way, because from your 100mg 'pure amphetamine' there can be only 73mg actual phet..
I just explained it because I am not sure if everyone understood this.. Some might think that what they are snorting is actually 90+% amphetamine 8)
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I'm not sure those pictures of MrFireUK prove anything. Mine looked like the a slightly yellow solid paste when I took pieces out of the bag it cutup to a powder pretty easily. I would think if I left it out of the bag to dry up completely overnight it would be easy to crush it up to a powder like in the original sample. Like CapeCrusader said as it dries it goes from a paste to some powder to being able to be crushed/cut into all powder.
I've given it to three other people two liked it because it was really clean without to much rush/addrenalin one didn't because there wasn't enough rush. I'm interested in Speedies though to see if it's different from the sample tested. I think it's a bit far fetched to be calling scam just because you don't like someones product that clearly a lot of people do.
I was referring to my product specifically.. I cannot speak for other vendors on here.. Remember that same paste can be cut with just about anything so it would still dry out to a chunky powder but still contain all sorts of crap..
Thanks
CC
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Here's my pics, mine looks closest to müslix's.
The clumps crumble easily. My stuff is pure white, and arrived the way it it pictured. It wasn't wet, and drying it out anymore didn't change anything.
And yes, the fact that only me and caffeineme and flyerz are the only ones having good experiences and reporting it actively is a bit worrying.
I refilled into my own baggies. Euro for size comparison: <a href="http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=e37acea5bb9878881146b0185a74227c.jpg">The Image</a>
When portioned onto my mirror, clumps are clearly seperate from extreme powdery parts: <a href="http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c949ad7bc89031070f07e349f567110b.jpg">The Image</a>
When chopped: <a href="http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c917a526220ba86257d8b402190f2db1.jpg">The Image</a>
Morning and noon daily med: <a href="http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=efa29bb59cc7b2d84f8e7ba9a72b37a7.jpg">The Image</a>
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I might be retarded. To view my pics, just copy & paste the stuff inside the quotation marks.
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So who's the king of the speed realm now?
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Yay! finally got my test results back:
MrFireUK's amphetamine so-said uncut batch is: 68% amphetamine which is 92,6% amphetamine sulphate (68 / 73.4 x 100%)
I do not have any proof because I got the test results by calling the test center.
I'm excited about speedie's test results, so we can see if MrFireUK or his 2nd man are selective scammers.
Here's some information if you're confused about the 68% amphetamine base to the 92.6% amphetamine sulphate calculating.
Some things I found out:
AmpSO4: (amphetamine)2.H2SO4
Amphetamine = 135.2g/mol
Amp.Sulphate=368,50 g/mol
(135.2 x 2)/368.5 x 100% = ~73,38%
Amphetamine % in Amp.SO4 = ~73.4%
So pure amphetamine sulphate(100%) contains:
- 73.4% amphetamine freebase
- 26.6% sulphate(SO4)
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Yay! finally got my test results back:
MrFireUK's amphetamine so-said uncut batch is: 68% amphetamine which is 92,6% amphetamine sulphate (68 / 73.4 x 100%)
I do not have any proof because I got the test results by calling the test center.
I'm excited about speedie's test results, so we can see if MrFireUK or his 2nd man are selective scammers.
Just for the record:
Can you provide some insight on what exactly you tested? An order you placed? Or a sample received? How much did you receive 0.25, 1.0, 5.0, ...? Pictures are always nice too.
Makes the case stronger.
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And IMO it's the only correct way, because from your 100mg 'pure amphetamine' there can be only 73mg actual phet..
the only correct way for what? for whom?
the most scientific way is this: AmphSulphat 123mg/g - untouched raw data
if you want to compare different salts go calculate your own relative values
but i guess we agree that the worst thing to do is letting every country chose its own standard lol
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Yay! finally got my test results back:
MrFireUK's amphetamine so-said uncut batch is: 68% amphetamine which is 92,6% amphetamine sulphate (68 / 73.4 x 100%)
I do not have any proof because I got the test results by calling the test center.
I'm excited about speedie's test results, so we can see if MrFireUK or his 2nd man are selective scammers.
Just for the record:
Can you provide some insight on what exactly you tested? An order you placed? Or a sample received? How much did you receive 0.25, 1.0, 5.0, ...? Pictures are always nice too.
Makes the case stronger.
I ordered 1gram of amphetamine about three weeks ago, no sample. I didn't announce that I was going to test the amphetamine at a dutch test center. Here's the picture I posted earlier(small, bad quality): http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/ewuoo.jpg
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Those who think they got crap from FUK could actually send it to our nice dutch guys for testing, I would actually provide my last 0,42 BC for postage.
So who's the king of the speed realm now?
The title is currently divided between Boymaster and CapeCrusader.
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Hi
Ordered from old amsterdam.
Quality : Nice stuff, best I've had on SR.
Smell : smell like hell stuff ! pass trough the vaccum sealed plastic
Package : could get another fur :) the smell when it arrived was too strong
Weight : ok but I found it a bit wet , but after 15 mintes spread on the plate, no probleme to get clean powder.
Price is really good compare to some seller saying it's pharma stuff, but no way, just some cuted shity speed !!!
Here you get some real good speed
I don't use so much, and after 4 days of festival, with like 3 tiny line per day , got really mad ^^
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BM's latest off white/pinky batch (or is that just the bag!) - Meh. Pleasant but not rocket fuel by any means.
I need to sample Fire's to see what all the fuss is about.
NM
Just a quick update on BM's latest batch after a week sorting myself out!
I measured out 20mg this afternoon and am still happily pootling along - be careful with this stuff people please - I was boshing 80-100mg at a time at one point and I probably took a few years off my life in doing so. Watch your tolerance levels and keep an eye on how much you're doing. BM's gear is for real so beware!
Ah well, at least I'm still alive to compare and contrast Fire's batch when it reaches me.
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BM's gear is top quality, took a few years off my life too ;)
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I say BM's stuff actually adds a few years to your life (productivity-wise) at least up to a point. If I was really tweaked out I'd make a "net loss of time alive" formula to calculate the optimal amount of amphetamine to do during a lifetime.
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BM's gear is top quality, took a few years off my life too ;)
What's meant by that?
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Got sum of MrFires speed and its really good, sum of the best stuff Ive ever had.
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stuff I had from FireUK was just white and didn't really clump like that. Might be noteworthy to point out that I keep some silica gel in the same container I store stuff in but I doubt it makes a difference.
The stuff I see in some of the pics looks different from what I had.. it was never "fluffy looking" and shit, that looks very bizarre and different. You should get that tested.
I liked the effects better than BM's older batch (the one claimed 70%) but I must say at similar dosages BM's stuff caused a lot more tachycardia in contrast to FuK stuff. It also gave me shrimp dick and big pupils. FuK has yet to do that. I stay in 50-70mg range.
Right now I'm waiting for an order from there and I'm making a CC order when my BTC arrives. I haven't had amph for like 2 weeks now.... Which sucks, I have no physical dependency but I definitely now have a strong psychological affinity for amphetamine.. not having it around makes me feel like the guy in Limitless when he ran out of his wonderdrug ahhh. I haven't done any work for 1.5 weeks.
a half gram order I did with FuK simply did not turn up but he gave a reship.
This concerns me because 1. I have been buying shit online since 2004-2005 to this location.. I don't even know , I mean must've been 500+ orders of all types of gear. Only once did something go wrong when 5g of methylone didn't show up (because the vendor put the wrong digit for my st address). Insisted that it had been shipped (this was off the books order) I dno what his guy in Germany is up to but.. there's no way that half gram was shipped to me in that type of packaging. it must've been forgotten so this pissed me off because I lost 2 weekends of amph enhanced socialising:)
I should really have zero tolerance but I did that before.
I'm really just interested in CC's stuff (it's the only stuff that has consistently good reviews- I've only had good experiences with FUK gear but I'm intrigued by this CC stuff), there's something missing from FIREUk's stuff but it served me well regardless. BM's stuff seems to give everyone lots of bodyload which I don't like. Or at least me.. I need more balanced speed, but still could use more magic than FUK. I want the sexual drive to walk up to females in the club. on FUK I had to make myself walk up to them but once there I was socially on point. Good for work though.
If CC is better than FUK I am going to BUY all of it so screw you guys. I am going to stockpile amphetamine for personal use in case of an apocalypse.
OldAmsterdam stuff is just bleh. It was the speed I tried last before FuK and FuK was better in all aspects (but I react badly to caffeine so if something is not cut with caffeine it's already miles ahead)
Still, I feel that I shouldn't need 50-70mg with little to no tolerance on first doses if it's this fabled 92%. I always said it must be less than 80% but uncut because i'd get a super clean high from it. If the stuff I HAVE tried is less than 50% i'd be surprised.
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We have opened the right path. Now the rest can only try to follow us. 8)
Greets
BM
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Hello :)
my english is too bad to understand what is written here, help me please and write me where i have to order.
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I like your style CapeCrusader and I respect you. I was talking about the new vendors witch muslix mentioned.
Cheers
BM
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Hello :)
my english is too bad to understand what is written here, help me please and write me where i have to order.
Boymaster or CapeCrusader. There are currently just those two vendors who are good.
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I like your style CapeCrusader and I respect you. I was talking about the new vendors witch muslix mentioned.
Cheers
BM
Likewise my friend.. It's good to have another vendor on here selling exactly what they advertise..
Best regards
CC
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What about Mr Fire UK? Surely he'd make the top speed vendors
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and some sites before is someone written mrfireuk=selektive scammer and now top vendor, hm?!
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Oh boy, I was two days so high on BM's speed. Too high, I would say. I didn't except that because I already did that stuff few days ago while partying (lots of it!) and it was smoother... There's a big difference if you're doing it with or without booze.
I did only ONE (party-) dosage orally in the morning and after 20 hours I was still up and writing some memos what I should do next in my life. Even if I took some benzos, I didn't sleep at all, so after 24 hours I had to take more (rest of the stuff!) to get some things done... And again, it hit me like a train.
My lesson learned. Don't trust yourself (So how you can trust people here?). How it will hit you, definitely depends on your mood. Always start easy.
~Q~
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Im getting fully suss on mrfire at this point, my mind wont be changed until his package turns up or some has some conclusive test results, seems like there is only one person talking his shit up.....
Let me know how it goes man, I'm in the same boat but ordered just last night.
Review on your other speed orders to AUS would be good, looking to get the best I can in.
Cheers.
No problems..
I didn't check this thread before ordering it, it seemed like a good deal haha. I got it for someone else as well, I guess we will see how it goes.
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Following the many glowing reports on BM's speed, i'll place an order on monday.
Does anybody have an estimated transit time to UK for him//?
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BoyMaster rules the roost no question in my mind. i have sampled many now and even love the MrFireUK speed I got both times. But a the finish line and with three different sets of speed to pick form over the last couple of weeks I know whos I treasured and kept to the very last line. BOYMASTER very strong and well if you do try to regulate yourself at all...low doses work great until you blow your tolerance up too far. I am really wanting to get Cape Crusaders gear and will wiht my next run of BTC and ordering . My focus will by more BM gear and CC gear. Respect and appreciate both of your presence on this thread. It is obvious your knowledge an experience in your quiet but knowledgeable posting style. I definitely like your not over the top style of doing business.
Kudos and thanks for bringing back the joy of real amphetamine to this place
Hilly
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Kudos and thanks for bringing back the joy of real amphetamine to this place
Hilly
i second that much love going to homies with phat whizz
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Finally waiting to try BM's "new" batch. I did try the uncut stuff back in may, but at the time my tolerance was crazy high so all it did was allowing me to lower my dosage somewhat. Now I haven't used for about a month so hopefully my body will do the product justice. Woopa silkroad style!
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Im getting fully suss on mrfire at this point, my mind wont be changed until his package turns up or some has some conclusive test results, seems like there is only one person talking his shit up.....
Let me know how it goes man, I'm in the same boat but ordered just last night.
Review on your other speed orders to AUS would be good, looking to get the best I can in.
Cheers.
No problems..
I didn't check this thread before ordering it, it seemed like a good deal haha. I got it for someone else as well, I guess we will see how it goes.
Im still waiting :(
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Im getting fully suss on mrfire at this point, my mind wont be changed until his package turns up or some has some conclusive test results, seems like there is only one person talking his shit up.....
Let me know how it goes man, I'm in the same boat but ordered just last night.
Review on your other speed orders to AUS would be good, looking to get the best I can in.
Cheers.
No problems..
I didn't check this thread before ordering it, it seemed like a good deal haha. I got it for someone else as well, I guess we will see how it goes.
Im still waiting :(
Hahah yeah that's the worst part. When did you order from MrFire? Hoping mine turns up next week.
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upboat for everyone because I'm in a good mood, although I have a lot of shit to do.
Got mail from Africa today 8)
It's a bit more coarse, as CC said, but looks like the snow white stuff from the sample. Not much smell at all. Gonna try some appropriate bomb right away :)
Alright just ordered 2g from CapeCrusader.. let's see how good this stuff really is :D
I (mis)read that like you were saying you received already. Had me puzzled for a while. haha
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upboat for everyone because I'm in a good mood, although I have a lot of shit to do.
Got mail from Africa today 8)
It's a bit more coarse, as CC said, but looks like the snow white stuff from the sample. Not much smell at all. Gonna try some appropriate bomb right away :)
Alright just ordered 2g from CapeCrusader.. let's see how good this stuff really is :D
I (mis)read that like you were saying you received already. Had me puzzled for a while. haha
Lol you are in such a good mood that you even forgot to finalize your order.. ;D
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I know. I can't connect. again. need to go now. will do first thing when I am back. 2hrs.
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Im getting fully suss on mrfire at this point, my mind wont be changed until his package turns up or some has some conclusive test results, seems like there is only one person talking his shit up.....
Let me know how it goes man, I'm in the same boat but ordered just last night.
Review on your other speed orders to AUS would be good, looking to get the best I can in.
Cheers.
No problems..
I didn't check this thread before ordering it, it seemed like a good deal haha. I got it for someone else as well, I guess we will see how it goes.
Im still waiting :(
Hahah yeah that's the worst part. When did you order from MrFire? Hoping mine turns up next week.
definetly the worst part ! I ordered last monday. He sent it on tuesday. Hoping mine turns up tomorrow :D
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Im getting fully suss on mrfire at this point, my mind wont be changed until his package turns up or some has some conclusive test results, seems like there is only one person talking his shit up.....
Let me know how it goes man, I'm in the same boat but ordered just last night.
Review on your other speed orders to AUS would be good, looking to get the best I can in.
Cheers.
No problems..
I didn't check this thread before ordering it, it seemed like a good deal haha. I got it for someone else as well, I guess we will see how it goes.
Im still waiting :(
Hahah yeah that's the worst part. When did you order from MrFire? Hoping mine turns up next week.
definetly the worst part ! I ordered last monday. He sent it on tuesday. Hoping mine turns up tomorrow :D
I have an order from all the big three CC , BM, FUK, hurry up postman!!!!!
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I know. I can't connect. again. need to go now. will do first thing when I am back. 2hrs.
Quality report?
Please an thank you/.
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Three times with BoyMaster, and of these 3, the first and the third are incredible.... this last time i stay with 0,3g, 40hours without sleep, in the job, in my house, with my friends....Awesome stuff.
Cheeers!
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Hmm CC's order was only put in transit today.. :( Gonna have to wait a little longer!
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I haven't felt the familiar derp-where-is-my-package feeling for a while. Had almost forgotten how torturous it is to wait!
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I've to kill the postman, if he doesn't bring my orders to me tomorrow. My friends and me want this awesome stuff !
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guize! guize! our thread, it's falling!
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guize! guize! our thread, it's falling!
I know right...
10 posts in 2 days, fuck..
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What's there to discuss? Speed section is flourishing..
Prices could be lowered.. but that's just a supply/demand thing, nothing to do about it.
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I am not really expert in speed, I don't like it so much.. in any case just tried from Bungee54, it was really clear and great smell, absolutely great customer service
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Why did you order from Bungee? Did you try it? How's the quality..? Was it paste or powder? Did it lose much weight when drying?
More infos plx
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Why did you order from Bungee? Did you try it? How's the quality..? Was it paste or powder? Did it lose much weight when drying?
More infos plx
I bought drug sample pack, 70 usd including 2 grams of hash, 1 gram of speed, 2 grams of mdma and 1/2 gram of coke, if interested in details of all tomorrow I will post all on his forum thread.
Speed is white, no powder but rocks (I don't know if this is the correct term, English is not my language), unfortunately for me I don't like it so much, the smell it's too strong for me.. I don't know about weight, actually broken scale, but appears legit..
I really appreciated the mdma, really strong trip with about less 100mg, no powder but big crystal.. I wrote something in about on MDMA forum.
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Why did you order from Bungee? Did you try it? How's the quality..? Was it paste or powder? Did it lose much weight when drying?
More infos plx
I bought drug sample pack, 70 usd including 2 grams of hash, 1 gram of speed, 2 grams of mdma and 1/2 gram of coke, if interested in details of all tomorrow I will post all on his forum thread.
Speed is white, no powder but rocks (I don't know if this is the correct term, English is not my language), unfortunately for me I don't like it so much, the smell it's too strong for me.. I don't know about weight, actually broken scale, but appears legit..
I really appreciated the mdma, really strong trip with about less 100mg, no powder but big crystal.. I wrote something in about on MDMA forum.
That seems ridiculously cheap...
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Why did you order from Bungee? Did you try it? How's the quality..? Was it paste or powder? Did it lose much weight when drying?
More infos plx
I bought drug sample pack, 70 usd including 2 grams of hash, 1 gram of speed, 2 grams of mdma and 1/2 gram of coke, if interested in details of all tomorrow I will post all on his forum thread.
Speed is white, no powder but rocks (I don't know if this is the correct term, English is not my language), unfortunately for me I don't like it so much, the smell it's too strong for me.. I don't know about weight, actually broken scale, but appears legit..
I really appreciated the mdma, really strong trip with about less 100mg, no powder but big crystal.. I wrote something in about on MDMA forum.
That seems ridiculously cheap...
It's amazing price, it's true.. but is not bad idea... you can try all him/her products and stay cheap, he/her doesn't send free sample but earn few moneys...
In any case, if you are interested, tomorrow I will able to post all details in about.. I'd need to improve my English... :-)
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MrFireUK's gear is pretty good, it just gives me a massive runny nose.. After just 2 cheeky lines my nose acts like I have snorted away 3 grams or something.. ::)
Annoying
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I actually haven't checked speed listings in a while and there are some funny new entries! ;D
I like how everyone adjusts their prices to what BM. Haha good luck with that guys! Guess it doesn't matter, before that it was all "72% DUTCH speed", now everyone has "pure" stuff.
My favorite is alpacino though:
Speed è unique blend of natural ingredients that will give you effect very similar to cocaine but in absolutely legit and safe manner. Perfect solution for the people who ever wanted to experience the famous Snowman Effect but newer did it because it is illegal, dangerous, addictive etc… Improved formula now contain PEA (Phenethylamine), Hordenine and natural Caffeine. Non-addictive and very powerful legal drug without any known side-effect but with very pleasure Coke Effect.
:o
At least he doesn't claim it's real speed!
"I Can't Believe It's Not Cocaine!"
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Can't wait to get onto boymaster when my BTC come in. After being severely disappointed the first few times i purchased amp i have awaiting the return of boymaster. Cannot wait, anyone know what the rough shipping times to AUS are?
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I tried BM's phet mixed with my coffee this morning and it was an amazing euphoric experience. From now on I will no longer be insufflating it, for bombing it works extremely well. All hail BM!
Edit: grammar
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MrFireUK review 2
Product: Amphetamine ("1g Amphetamine/Speed >90% pure").
Communication : none was needed this time.
Shipping: shipped within 24h. after ordering, arrived in 5 days from GER to EU.
Packaging: nothing fancy, but everything up to SR standard.
Weight: 1g., forgot to check the weight.
Looks: White, dry, fine powder with some 'pebbles'. Has a typical amph smell, but nowhere close to the stench of dutch amphetamine paste.
Tolerance: doing quite a lot of amphetamine and other stimulants lately.
Dosage: 50mg.
Duration: ~4h+.
T+0h00m A capsule with 50mg. of amphetamine taken first thing in the morning, on empty stomatch.
T+0h30m Subtle mood lift, not feeling sleepy anymore, music sounds great.
T+1h00m Arrived at the office, enjoy chatting with people, feel calm and motivated.
T+2h00m Effects are at the same level. Good for work enviroment. Still haven't eaten and cigarette breaks are often.
T+4h00m Gradually coming down. No negative effects whatsoverer. I feel ready to get some food in me.
Extensions and commentary: I find this dosage good for work\mood lift. I have already taken around ~800mg. of this speed over the last week or two. I find the purity claims believable. No idea why somebody says it's "like 30%", because I find current MrFireUK amphetamine around the same level as CapeCrusader's or BoyMaster's. I have been awake on it for 48h+ and didn't get any bad side effects I get from street quality stuff. 5/5
Based on my experience I recommend and would by again from:
CapeCrusader
BoyMaster
MrFireUK
Negative experiences:
OldAmsterdam (nasty side effects, probably from caffeine).
Upcoming test/review: Bungee54
I hope this is helpful, and thanks for reading:)
Bob Arctor
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Nice one Bob! +1
I'm currently awake almost 40 hours on MrFireUk's stuff and I too don't notice any negative side effects :)
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MrFireUK's gear is pretty good, it just gives me a massive runny nose.. After just 2 cheeky lines my nose acts like I have snorted away 3 grams or something.. ::)
Annoying
I feel ya man. It hasn't stopped running and I only snorted a point last week!
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MrFireUK's gear is pretty good, it just gives me a massive runny nose.. After just 2 cheeky lines my nose acts like I have snorted away 3 grams or something.. ::)
Annoying
I feel ya man. It hasn't stopped running and I only snorted a point last week!
Yeah.. I might consider that a negative side effect, but it has nothing to do with my 'mental' state, just my nose ::)
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After hearing all the testimony on here, I'm going to test out BoyM. I'm not the hugest speedfreak, In fact I'm a downer guy by temperament. Love heroin, benzos and I'm on methadone but can't resist GOOD uppers. The euphoria is second to none. Eagerly await the chance to add my myself to the growing list of satisfied customers
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Hey guys, my second BM order arrived although I ordered a lot for friends this time. Shipping was spot on and packaging was improved also. The first one I received had the vac-bag still bouncing inside, now it's all reinforced and more fixed to the paper. I am totally fine with that now for EU. Might not be the most beautiful, put who cares, did the job as expected.
I asked him to split up the zips and the vac-sealing because I want to store something, he kindly did that, so all the stuff I am going to store is still vac-sealed. 8)
Now the question: Where to put it? :) Freezer? metal-box inside my drawer? Where do you guys store emergency speed? :) I usually follow the no-store tactic :P
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Freezer is the best AFAIK, especially for long term storage (several months or more) since amp can loose some potency at higher temperatures. But dont think there would be any noticeable loss of potency if you keep it a few weeks in room temperature.
Anyone here tried washing the speed with solvents like acetone or alcohol? They seem to do it alot over in the coke thread to get a grasp of the quality and to get a cleaner product, but cant remember reading about it here.
Seems unfortuneatley like you loose some of the active substances in the process, but would be a pretty easy method to compare differences between different vendors products if we measure amount of solvent used, amount of product used and how much is left.
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No idea why somebody says it's "like 30%"
No one says yours is 30% ???
Don't just assume everyone got what you did, couple pages back a few users posted pictures of what the received.
I'm currently awake almost 40 hours on MrFireUk's stuff and I too don't notice any negative side effects :)
I'm honestly happy for you that you received good stuff. How much did you order?
But I can't help but thinking of the age old philosophy wisdom that came out of some aakoven thread:
Guys, who received good staff, are you OK with this (selective) scamming, when quantitative more bad speed went out?
Or, simplified: Is selective scamming OK, if you yourself got never ripped off.?
Maybe knomo even remembers that thread. haha that was fun, good old times ;)
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Got my package from BM. Happy times!
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My package didn't turn up today .. :(
Everyone wrote they can be awake for 40+ hours, but if I snort a 50mg line of very pure amphetamine, I can't be awake for this long time. Another example: I snorted a line and after that I do something in front of the computer, I get tired as hell !
Can u please tell me how you do?
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I received my FireUK order now. It looks white and powdery like the other orders.
Flyerz, I doubt they did 1 line of 50mg staying up for 40 hours! :)
Personally I have not stayed up past my bedtime. I know I am psychologically addicted to this stuff so I try to keep it as healthy as possible. Only take it after dinner and I go to sleep at a normal hour... but hey, if you've got to crunch a project or something I guess it's good to know you won't die from a 40h stint.
Bob Arctor review is pretty in line with what I think of FireUK stuff.
I don't know about selective scamming, I guess I haven't been a lucky contestant yet. I will dose in a while and see if this works well for me too. I haven't done amphetamine in like 2.5 weeks now! (waiting game is a pain in the butt..) I guess I start with a smaller oral dose.
Waiting for it when you really need it is the worst. Every night I dream about checking my mail at least 3 times finding nothing, waking up in distress that it did not arrive.. go to check actual mail and it's not there+ go back to bed in a FKN BS!!! hump... then it arrives and you remember what christmas felt like.
upboat for everyone because I'm in a good mood
reddit much? lol
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Ordered 5g Muslix :)
And yeah I remember.. AAkoven is a bloody retard and it's a disgrace he is still in the 'top' vendors of the speed section.. Or any section for that matter ::)
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My package didn't turn up today .. :(
Everyone wrote they can be awake for 40+ hours, but if I snort a 50mg line of very pure amphetamine, I can't be awake for this long time. Another example: I snorted a line and after that I do something in front of the computer, I get tired as hell !
Can u please tell me how you do?
Yeah, I get that, too. MrFire's, right? I am tired as hell.
The people who stay awake 40+ hours, redose SEVERAL times ;)
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Ordered 5g Muslix :)
And yeah I remember.. AAkoven is a bloody retard and it's a disgrace he is still in the 'top' vendors of the speed section.. Or any section for that matter ::)
Yeah, especially with all the warnings ITT. I think SR should put a recommendation for users to browse the Rumor Mill threads before purchasing... Or at least divide the ratings for each section. I mean you can go and sell hats for good rating then sell bunk drugs...
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My package didn't turn up today .. :(
Everyone wrote they can be awake for 40+ hours, but if I snort a 50mg line of very pure amphetamine, I can't be awake for this long time. Another example: I snorted a line and after that I do something in front of the computer, I get tired as hell !
Can u please tell me how you do?
Yeah, I get that, too. MrFire's, right? I am tired as hell.
The people who stay awake 40+ hours, redose SEVERAL times ;)
How many times? 5, 8 or 10 as example
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Think I redosed around 4 times
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Freezer is the best AFAIK, especially for long term storage (several months or more) since amp can loose some potency at higher temperatures. But dont think there would be any noticeable loss of potency if you keep it a few weeks in room temperature.
Anyone here tried washing the speed with solvents like acetone or alcohol? They seem to do it alot over in the coke thread to get a grasp of the quality and to get a cleaner product, but cant remember reading about it here.
Seems unfortuneatley like you loose some of the active substances in the process, but would be a pretty easy method to compare differences between different vendors products if we measure amount of solvent used, amount of product used and how much is left.
Is this MrsFireUK? ;D I think you missed the point of an acetone wash. :)
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Think I redosed around 4 times
4x1g ? :)
I am up 60+ hours and I took Antihistamin already.
Haha yeah I'ma use up all my stash in 1 binge :P Nah I guess 50-60mg redoses..
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Strange thing: MrFire's now affects me in the same way like BM's does. But I tool 20mg of BM and 60mg of Fire.
What I notice: After half an hour of oral administration, I get a nice rush, I feel pretty happy and confident. But that's fading out pretty quickly after another half an hour. Is it just me or do you feel the same? I hate it, because I'd like to have a constant euphoria/mood lift or as an alternative just a light mood lift but lasting the whole tweak time.
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Current Mrfireuk stuff I'm using now..
The effects feel similar the stuff I got before.. a little weaker hm- but there's barely any burn compared to then.. I don't know- hard to put me finger on. Took 40mg oral (I had a big spagetti meatball 2 hours prior though) then 2.5 hours later snorted 40mg. Just feel it mildly, but there's no push to go do "work" but it removed the lethargy... Granted I needed like 70-80mg oral at the end of using last time but that was 17 days ago. Eh, I figured tolerance would've reset. I'm not 100% though might be it too, I think I have a barely noticable mild diazepam WD.
I used like 400mg in 1.5 weeks. Just felt mildish lethargy in the past 10 days of not taking any but nothing serious... and I only used it for 1.5 weeks although a decent amount.
I'll take a 50mg oral dose now and call it quits after that for the day.. but this means I've used 130mg in the space of 4 hours (contrasting to Knomo above who stayed up for 40h on 200-240mg) - after not using speed for almost 3 weeks, only last active substance i took was diazepam 9 days ago- sure it's got long halflife but come on- 1.5 weeks of use won't do much.
Might still be recovering my GABA system and it's stifling the effects. That or the stuff is weaker but too early to tell. Won't use any tomorrow, going out on Friday then I'll have a clearer picture. I'll bomb 70mg or so but I think I should be getting more mileage out of it.
I can't believe you guys doing 40-60h runs yikes you go hard!.. I guess it's nothing compared to the meth heads who stay awake into psychosis.
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Two days ago I received my order from MrFireuk. 25Gr
It was well packed and I got my 10% bonus because of FE.
Me and my girlfriend used it immediately but we were not convinced about the purity.
Personal I think It is no more then 20 or 30 % but we will see next friday
I used about 1 gr in 24 hours and she did 0.5 gr in 24 hours and that is too much for a purity of 92 %.
So today I went to a test centre in Groningen with a sample.
I will post the results next friday.
Regards speedie
Can't wait till the test results. 25gr is a large order, it better be good quality.
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I have been gone for a couple of days. Finally got around to inspect a second 10gram order of MrFire's 92% quickly. I have not tasted or reagent tested it, but what I am noticing is it is a darker yellow color and appears wet (Although it may be dry and not noticed until it is opened). This looks very different the brilliant white 10grams received a week or two.....both supposed high purity batch? I have read through the thread and there does seem to be some conflicting reports. The white, which I have sampled on multiple occasions is a product I really do like....high function with little to no side effects. Does the stark difference in color mean anything, what was the color of the lab tested stuff?
Thanks for the follow up. I am not saying MrFire has done me any wrong and I do have a PM sent off to him for further explanation, but just doing my do diligence.
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BM to Aus in 14 days, stealth def could be worked on..
Will update on quality later....
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Thanks for that SpiceyT. I live in the Australasia region, so that's a good indicator for me. Any of you whizz-fanatics inject? I always shoot cocaine and heroin for the rush, but the last time I had plain ol whizz was when I was 15 and I didn't shoot much back then. Meth has taken over the stimulant scene here and so that's where the money is for the dealers.
Anyway, I wanted to hear about some experience with IVing BM's go and if someone could recommend me their dose or a good starting dose. I'm not expecting a definitive answer really, I'll test it out myself.
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BM to Aus in 14 days, stealth def could be worked on..
Will update on quality later....
Looking forwards to hearing about it, enjoy ;)
Good to know it got in though, how big was the order?
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No one says yours is 30% ???
Don't just assume everyone got what you did, couple pages back a few users posted pictures of what the received.
Ahh, well, I'm lucky, then. It was single gram order, ordered in the end of August (is there a way to see detailed order history on SR?). In the future I'll try to add a photo of the product with a review:)
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Thanks for that SpiceyT. I live in the Australasia region, so that's a good indicator for me. Any of you whizz-fanatics inject? I always shoot cocaine and heroin for the rush, but the last time I had plain ol whizz was when I was 15 and I didn't shoot much back then. Meth has taken over the stimulant scene here and so that's where the money is for the dealers.
Anyway, I wanted to hear about some experience with IVing BM's go and if someone could recommend me their dose or a good starting dose. I'm not expecting a definitive answer really, I'll test it out myself.
Yeah IV is my choice of ROA.
My mate had two shots of 50 mg each of BM's gear this afternoon, says its was probably a bit too much, was so saying there was alot of body load as well. I dont think the rush is the same as with ice, ill give a personal experience report tomorrow morning.
Also can anyone advise me on dissolving the sulphate into liquid, it didnt seem to mix very easily, would heat be advisable or citric acid or both??
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BM to Aus in 14 days, stealth def could be worked on..
Will update on quality later....
Looking forwards to hearing about it, enjoy ;)
Good to know it got in though, how big was the order?
Under a kilo ;)
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I have been gone for a couple of days. Finally got around to inspect a second 10gram order of MrFire's 92% quickly. I have not tasted or reagent tested it, but what I am noticing is it is a darker yellow color and appears wet (Although it may be dry and not noticed until it is opened).
That sounds like BM's gear to me. :)
Anyway, I wanted to hear about some experience with IVing BM's go and if someone could recommend me their dose or a good starting dose. I'm not expecting a definitive answer really, I'll test it out myself.
Nasal bioavailability is around 75%, intravenous is of course 100%. A rough dosage estimate would be "iv dose = nasal dose * 0.75". If you have a bit of a tolerance (cross-tolerance etc) then 25-35mg is probably a good start.
Also can anyone advise me on dissolving the sulphate into liquid, it didnt seem to mix very easily, would heat be advisable or citric acid or both??
Heat the water in your microwave oven (shot glass works great), mix with amphetamine while hot, let the solution cool down to room temperature.
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I have been gone for a couple of days. Finally got around to inspect a second 10gram order of MrFire's 92% quickly. I have not tasted or reagent tested it, but what I am noticing is it is a darker yellow color and appears wet (Although it may be dry and not noticed until it is opened). This looks very different the brilliant white 10grams received a week or two.....both supposed high purity batch? I have read through the thread and there does seem to be some conflicting reports. The white, which I have sampled on multiple occasions is a product I really do like....high function with little to no side effects. Does the stark difference in color mean anything, what was the color of the lab tested stuff?
Thanks for the follow up. I am not saying MrFire has done me any wrong and I do have a PM sent off to him for further explanation, but just doing my do diligence.
please update if and when you hear a response
ty
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I have been gone for a couple of days. Finally got around to inspect a second 10gram order of MrFire's 92% quickly. I have not tasted or reagent tested it, but what I am noticing is it is a darker yellow color and appears wet (Although it may be dry and not noticed until it is opened).
That sounds like BM's gear to me. :)
Anyway, I wanted to hear about some experience with IVing BM's go and if someone could recommend me their dose or a good starting dose. I'm not expecting a definitive answer really, I'll test it out myself.
Nasal bioavailability is around 75%, intravenous is of course 100%. A rough dosage estimate would be "iv dose = nasal dose * 0.75". If you have a bit of a tolerance (cross-tolerance etc) then 25-35mg is probably a good start.
Also can anyone advise me on dissolving the sulphate into liquid, it didnt seem to mix very easily, would heat be advisable or citric acid or both??
Heat the water in your microwave oven (shot glass works great), mix with amphetamine while hot, let the solution cool down to room temperature.
Thanks
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It should really mix in easily. Amphetamine sulphate is soluble in water, so anything that's gelling or clogging up would be cut, unless it's just lumps of Amph that haven't had water mixed all the way through, kind of like when you add water or milk to a bowl of flour.
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I am 4 hours into 250mg of boymaster's gear. Looks and smells beautiful. (I have cross tolerance and I am a little bit overweight for reference) Great amph! I haven't got a lot of mental euphoria from it (that could be me) but plenty of wonderful body feelings even tingles up the back of my neck and rubbing my head feels fantastic definitely huge body load to it. I don't know if this makes sense but it feels clear and clean and then it doesn't and it has waves is the best way I can describe. I am ready to take on the world but not at the same time. I start doing something and the heart rate goes ballistic and the sweats come on. Then I can sit down to have a smoke and get lost reading and thinking, then tingles up the back of my neck start again and go through my whole body and my legs tell my brain to get up and do something. Does that make sense? I could go paint a room or just as easily as I could sit and read. I would like to IV it but am trying to avoid needles and just drank it instead. (I snorted about 25mg first but that drip was very bad tasting)
It mixed ok in room temperature water some parts of the rocky bits took a bit of extra effort but seemed ok. I only water mixed it to get the rest out of the bag (and to see how well it mixed up just incase maybe I feel like a little IV taster) and used an oral syringe to draw it up and squirt it into my drink so more like 300mg I've had now maybe lol. I put some aside for the next few days and then saved some in another bag. I put it inside a ziploc and removed all air and rolled it up and taped it and put that inside another bag with some rice as a dessicant (is that the right word?) and then rolled that up and folded it into some foil and then put it in the freezer. Is that a good enough way to store it?
And just as a I finish typing all of that i just got a really huge surge of wonderful tingles through my entire body. I might go for a shower because I do smell from all the sweating and the water on my body would probably feel amazing. Sorry for rambling on and thanks boymaster, packaging could be improved but it made it through fine so no complaints. Please try to keep this excellent quality supply available to this wonderful thing that is Silk Road. Also I haven't had any invasive thoughts or weird thought pattterns like I would get on meth. Very happy all around. This is going to be a fun few days. I wonder how bad the comedown will be but am not really concerned with that at this time. Greetz and peace to all, the master in your user name is a worthy title.
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Still impatiently waiting for CC's :( Ordered 10 days ago.
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Still impatiently waiting for CC's :( Ordered 10 days ago.
I have ordered from three different vendors from South Africa, it usually takes ~14 days for letter to arrive to EU. Unless you're somewhere closer - don't worry too much:)
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I have been gone for a couple of days. Finally got around to inspect a second 10gram order of MrFire's 92% quickly. I have not tasted or reagent tested it, but what I am noticing is it is a darker yellow color and appears wet (Although it may be dry and not noticed until it is opened).
That sounds like BM's gear to me. :)
Every batch of amphetamine can be snow white, slightly yellowish or a little pink/purple. BM's manufacturer isn't the only one who manufacture yellowish ( no offense )
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Ok so yesterday I did about 130mg of my recent order from mrfireuk.
Now, I was at the tailend of a very mild short term diazepam wd which may have effected results. It didn't feel much like the other two orders I had. The duration of positive effects was shorter, way too short with a LONG residual stimulation. I got like max 1 hour out of an oral dose. Snorted barely.
Most noticeable was that my pupils were very dilated and I could not focus my vision at all. The other orders I received I did not get any pupil dilation at all. This I find incredibly odd..........
I will try it again tomorrow with a clearer head and see if I get these questionable effects. I did not have a single experience like this going through 2g of two sepearate orders previous.
Still I'm undecided because I was definitely not feeling 100% before I took it.
The funny thing is I took phenibut for comedown (gaba-b agonist) and I got way more dopaminergic effects from that than the amphetamine... (this was 7-8 hours past final dose).
I'll report back on how the weekend goes. Something is not right, it's either me or the product and it's a coinflip at this juncture.
Also, the stuff I received is white like the other orders but it's a bit more clumpy which I find odd. Also find it odd that someone received yellow stuff. Perhaps there are inconsistencies the vendor is not aware of...
FYI had not used any stimulant or drug for 17 days.
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I have been gone for a couple of days. Finally got around to inspect a second 10gram order of MrFire's 92% quickly. I have not tasted or reagent tested it, but what I am noticing is it is a darker yellow color and appears wet (Although it may be dry and not noticed until it is opened).
That sounds like BM's gear to me. :)
Every batch of amphetamine can be snow white, slightly yellowish or a little pink/purple. BM's manufacturer isn't the only one who manufacture yellowish ( no offense )
My stuff from BM looks more like RAL 1015 and he is actually his own manufacturer. ;D
http://media.tbs-aachen.de/images/RAL1015.jpg
Apart from that whats the point in staying awake for days? I guess without sleep and food your dopamine storage will be depleted pretty fast, so you are nothing but awake. I mean you can continue after you got some rest and food. I am pretty sure that's really bad for your health, because your body will take what he needs from less important parts of your body, like teeth..
Personally I would never skip more then 1 night of sleep.
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I have been gone for a couple of days. Finally got around to inspect a second 10gram order of MrFire's 92% quickly. I have not tasted or reagent tested it, but what I am noticing is it is a darker yellow color and appears wet (Although it may be dry and not noticed until it is opened).
That sounds like BM's gear to me. :)
Every batch of amphetamine can be snow white, slightly yellowish or a little pink/purple. BM's manufacturer isn't the only one who manufacture yellowish ( no offense )
My stuff from BM looks more like RAL 1015 and he is actually his own manufacturer. ;D
http://media.tbs-aachen.de/images/RAL1015.jpg
Apart from that whats the point in staying awake for days? I guess without sleep and food your dopamine storage will be depleted pretty fast, so you are nothing but awake. I mean you can continue after you got some rest and food. I am pretty sure that's really bad for your health, because your body will take what he needs from less important parts of your body, like teeth..
Personally I would never skip more then 1 night of sleep.
I don't want to stay awake for 40+ hours, but one night as example ( 10.00am: get up, next evening: fall asleep ).
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After hearing all the testimony on here, I'm going to test out BoyM. I'm not the hugest speedfreak, In fact I'm a downer guy by temperament. Love heroin, benzos and I'm on methadone but can't resist GOOD uppers. The euphoria is second to none. Eagerly await the chance to add my myself to the growing list of satisfied customers
if you love the downers my friend you are not worthy of BM's goooooodness
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CrystalBurns is listing again.
for those interested
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BM's latest off white/pinky batch (or is that just the bag!) - Meh. Pleasant but not rocket fuel by any means.
I need to sample Fire's to see what all the fuss is about.
NM
Just a quick update on BM's latest batch after a week sorting myself out!
I measured out 20mg this afternoon and am still happily pootling along - be careful with this stuff people please - I was boshing 80-100mg at a time at one point and I probably took a few years off my life in doing so. Watch your tolerance levels and keep an eye on how much you're doing. BM's gear is for real so beware!
Ah well, at least I'm still alive to compare and contrast Fire's batch when it reaches me.
Mr Fire Uk's stuff reached me at the beginning of the week.
Packaging was fantastic - double vac sealed and arrived quickly from Germany.
Tried 30mg just to see how it compared with BM's stuff - tolerance pretty low at the moment.
Did it have ANY effect?
I'm not entirely sure it did.
Had a day or two off just to see if the tolerance levels were playing tricks with me. I could have waited a day or two more but was knackered.
Tried 50mg this time just to make sure the first test wasn't a one-off.
I'm not sure what all the others who have reviewed this stuff have received but it wasn't what I've received.
When it first arrived it had that phetty smell about it but that seems to have faded.
No amphetamine effects, no caffeine effects, possibly ephedrine? Taurine?
This is just my experience of the item I received and the items received by others may be different batches.
Over and out
NM
PS Why is this thread no longer pinned????????
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Apart from that whats the point in staying awake for days? I guess without sleep and food your dopamine storage will be depleted pretty fast, so you are nothing but awake. I mean you can continue after you got some rest and food. I am pretty sure that's really bad for your health, because your body will take what he needs from less important parts of your body, like teeth..
Personally I would never skip more then 1 night of sleep.
I never plan on staying awake that long. I take lots of Vitamin and Mineral supplements and I eat, so as long as I don't feel bad I just let it run it's course. I used to interrupt it with benzos, but that adds a new dimension of possible problems. You are right though, the "only skip one night" rule sounds pretty reasonable to me.
Tried 30mg just to see how it compared with BM's stuff - tolerance pretty low at the moment.
Did it have ANY effect?
I'm not entirely sure it did.
welcome to the club!
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Does that make sense?
Yes, makes perfect sense. Very well written review. +1
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After hearing all the testimony on here, I'm going to test out BoyM. I'm not the hugest speedfreak, In fact I'm a downer guy by temperament. Love heroin, benzos and I'm on methadone but can't resist GOOD uppers. The euphoria is second to none. Eagerly await the chance to add my myself to the growing list of satisfied customers
if you love the downers my friend you are not worthy of BM's goooooodness
hahaha, we'll see. You don't have to enjoy being wired to like shooting stimulants
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Upcoming test/review: Bungee54
I hope this is helpful, and thanks for reading:)
Bob Arctor
we look forward to your review sir!
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Has someone else noticed that BM's new batch is much less painful to snort? In fact it even hurts less than the old 70% amphetamine + lactose mix. Weird, but the good kind of weird. :)
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Yes, it's LESS painful :) It's still miles away from being pleasant ;) Have you tasted it? I suggest to do a thumbprint, i.e. lick thumb, stick it in powder, lick powder off thumb. This will ensure you enjoy the full spectrum of agony it has to offer 8)
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BM's latest off white/pinky batch (or is that just the bag!) - Meh. Pleasant but not rocket fuel by any means.
I need to sample Fire's to see what all the fuss is about.
NM
Just a quick update on BM's latest batch after a week sorting myself out!
I measured out 20mg this afternoon and am still happily pootling along - be careful with this stuff people please - I was boshing 80-100mg at a time at one point and I probably took a few years off my life in doing so. Watch your tolerance levels and keep an eye on how much you're doing. BM's gear is for real so beware!
Ah well, at least I'm still alive to compare and contrast Fire's batch when it reaches me.
Mr Fire Uk's stuff reached me at the beginning of the week.
Packaging was fantastic - double vac sealed and arrived quickly from Germany.
Tried 30mg just to see how it compared with BM's stuff - tolerance pretty low at the moment.
Did it have ANY effect?
I'm not entirely sure it did.
Had a day or two off just to see if the tolerance levels were playing tricks with me. I could have waited a day or two more but was knackered.
Tried 50mg this time just to make sure the first test wasn't a one-off.
I'm not sure what all the others who have reviewed this stuff have received but it wasn't what I've received.
When it first arrived it had that phetty smell about it but that seems to have faded.
No amphetamine effects, no caffeine effects, possibly ephedrine? Taurine?
This is just my experience of the item I received and the items received by others may be different batches.
Over and out
NM
PS Why is this thread no longer pinned????????
This is exactly my experience with the 1g I just received...
I ate 80mg over 2 hours and felt very little effects at all, mild stimulation.
Anyone suggest why this could be?
I'm not a big guy, 10 stone.
how much are others doing to get SO high?
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This is exactly my experience with the 1g I just received...
I ate 80mg over 2 hours and felt very little effects at all, mild stimulation.
Anyone suggest why this could be?
It is because there's some selective scamming going on, meaning you got unlucky and received crap. Me and many others before you did as well.
I suggest to you and everyone else who received this shit to ask politely for a FULL refund. If you are happy with the resolution - enjoy. If not please at least adjust rating to reflect the quality of what you have received.
Totally puzzles me why he's doing this, I guess he just can't afford the 90%, but why send a real 90% sample out for testing and advertise with it? why not make decent speed for everyone, 50-60% should give very good product. Instead he's ripping half his customers off. Pretty sad. If he just tried to beat BM then it's stupid, sorry a guy like FUK can't beat vendors like BM in quality, it's not possible for obvious reasons. weidweirdweird.
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Ideas for the best cures for a speed comedown?
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Ideas for the best cures for a speed comedown?
more speed? :) the most effective: benzos (not recommended though), modafinil helps some, the stuff ohnoes mentioned in his last post (phenibut), weed works for some, maybe the GABA analogues like gabapentin (never tried though).
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Has someone else noticed that BM's new batch is much less painful to snort? In fact it even hurts less than the old 70% amphetamine + lactose mix. Weird, but the good kind of weird. :)
I noticed and mentioned it a while ago^^. BM wrote his explanation for this in an earlier post.
The pH-meter was poorly calibrated and the product ended with a pH of 6.6 and that's why it had some freebase in it. It has nothing to do with the mixer. And as I said it has been worked out and will never repeat.
If you think that it's a lie, dissolve it in water and check the pH, or buy an EZ...are you clever enough?
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I have been gone for a couple of days. Finally got around to inspect a second 10gram order of MrFire's 92% quickly. I have not tasted or reagent tested it, but what I am noticing is it is a darker yellow color and appears wet (Although it may be dry and not noticed until it is opened). This looks very different the brilliant white 10grams received a week or two.....both supposed high purity batch? I have read through the thread and there does seem to be some conflicting reports. The white, which I have sampled on multiple occasions is a product I really do like....high function with little to no side effects. Does the stark difference in color mean anything, what was the color of the lab tested stuff?
Thanks for the follow up. I am not saying MrFire has done me any wrong and I do have a PM sent off to him for further explanation, but just doing my do diligence.
Have you tried your second 10gr order yet? If so please post your thoughts. And did he pmed you back already?
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Three weeks ago the first rumors spread that you're a selective scammer, and the past few days there are more and more people saying they got not good amphetamine at all. Now at least 8 different people. You can see their posts at the at the amphetamine thread.
First I thought this might be a move from other speed vendors to turn down their concurrent.
You thought the competition posted negative reviews about FireUK? Seriously? He said that, right?
That's a very shady technique only a hand full of vendors would use.
Are you new or is only your account new?
Be more skeptic, don't believe everything you are told. There are some obvious fake reviews here, but most (or all?) promote a certain product. If you have doubts, point it out, ask questions, background check the user. Sorry I had to laugh a bit :)
I'd be more worried about the fanboys that blindly defend a vendor without ever questioning anything. It's those guys who cry first in the "Vendor XY has gone scammer" threads. History repeats itself, very quickly here on SR.
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Three weeks ago the first rumors spread that you're a selective scammer, and the past few days there are more and more people saying they got not good amphetamine at all. Now at least 8 different people. You can see their posts at the at the amphetamine thread.
First I thought this might be a move from other speed vendors to turn down their concurrent.
You thought the competition posted negative reviews about FireUK? Seriously? He said that, right?
That's a very shady technique only a hand full of vendors would use.
Are you new or is only your account new?
Be more skeptic, don't believe everything you are told. There are some obvious fake reviews here, but most (or all?) promote a certain product. If you have doubts, point it out, ask questions, background check the user. Sorry I had to laugh a bit :)
I'd be more worried about the fanboys that blindly defend a vendor without ever questioning anything. It's those guys who cry first in the "Vendor XY has gone scammer" threads. History repeats itself, very quickly here on SR.
Yes that's what I thought, and I'm still not sure because most of the negative reviews are from people with very low post count. And your posts/review are not exactly helping me, because you seem a paranoid mad man who is obsessed to discredit mrFUK. How many negative posts did you exactly write about MrFUK? about 30?
And no, I came up with the theory myself. And I'm skeptical, that's exactly why I don't believe the selective scamming accusation immediately. That's why I asked MrFUK for an explanation, which I doubt I will get an answer on soon because the last time he's been on his forum account is a week ago.
No problem about the laughing. Sorry that I called you a paranoid mad man with an obsession ::)
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The problem with the argument is a) it's just not true and b) it's just another statement that comes straight from FUK's thread. I don't mind criticism, just don't make it up or repeat stuff without thinking. I don't know what you consider negative. If facts that FUK doesn't like count as negative, maybe but I still doubt it. You realize I have always done that? Since I came here. I hyped good products and I ridiculed vendors who ripped me off. The names have changed over time, but that stayed the same. If anything it reduced in intensity. Now should I make an exception for FUK? Why? And what would you do if you paid and received shitty speed and shitty LSD, then get told everyone was offered a refund, when you clearly didn't, ask for one and get ignored? Would you still praise FUK?
With the same reasoning you are shilling fanboy. You ever heard anyone being accused of that? I didn't. No other vendor does that. Whenever something "negative" is posted, it's always the other vendors discrediting him. No one did that before FUK started vending here, look it up :) No other vendor ever accused anyone of posting fake shit, besides FUK. If you don't believe me, look it up.
Why do low post counts mean anything? You also have a low post-count. And no one claims your test results are fake. You need to find another property to distinguish fake from real reviews.
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Ideas for the best cures for a speed comedown?
The best cure I've found is 150-200mg of instant release tramadol, it always gets me back on my feet within an hour or so. In case you haven't eaten in a while you should take it with a light meal (a protein drink will do) or you might get nausea. Also, for obvious reasons, you shouldn't take it too often.
The rest you already know; water, food, vitamins, yada yada :)
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Ideas for the best cures for a speed comedown?
A shot of heroin, a benzo and a meal will sort you out. I find a high sodium and saturated fat meal does me best. Some potassium too, like from a banana. The meal will help you from feeling all faint and give you a bit of energy back and the banana or bananas will help with muscle pain and cramps you get after a stim run. Add some 5-HTTP in there and a sleep and you'll be right as rain.
Seriously I recommend this to everyone doing stimulants, whether it's ritalin, meth, amph, dexedrine whatever.
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Well, I think I've got an odd order of fireuk. it's nothing like the other orders I received. I've defended it because me and loads of people had the good stuff, that gave clean alert high with no bodyload. I'm not 100% sure this is largely different, it's way clumpier though.
Tried it twice now, tonight. just got back home. First did 60mg oral and it didnt really have any speed effect other than raising my heartrate (the other stuff would not push my heartrate past 100, but this instant 110-120bpm seated). Took 30-40mg booster after 1.5 hours and it did nothing either. I was incredibly disinterested in social interaction and everything basically, again difficult to focus my vision.
Nothing like the previous and my tolerance should be baseline again. I did not want to redose or dose higher.
I wont test it again for a week now. Took phenibut and a small bit of diazepam to come down (wasn't crashing but I not gonna be able to sleep with even mild tachycardia). Don't wanna mess around with GABA agonists for a week at least now so.
Still, can't say anything for sure yet. There might some credence to this selective scamming. As it's grown from 2 people complaining to several more now. I can't say for sure because my GABA is a little out of order, just needs to be a little in a bad way to have a large negative effect on stimulants. I'll report back in a week.
Comedown:
GABA Agonists..
Nothing beats benzos (GABA-A) really. They'll eliminate any crash and knock you into sleep. Downside is you gotta be disciplined with using them. Benzo wd's are terrible. Long halflife benzos etc might make it so you can't get full effects out of speed if you plan on using the next day too.
Phenibut is a gaba-b agonist which has strange dopaminergic activity. It will not really knock you to sleep but it will rub out a crash and settle stimulation. This creates tolerance an dependency way quicker than benzos though. Upshot is that it's legal and you can buy the shit on ebay. Problem is that it takes 2-3 hours to take effect. halflifel isted at 5 hours but really effects linger for a long time. You can only take phenibut once a week to be safe.
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Ideas for the best cures for a speed comedown?
I prefer the non-pharma route for comedowns. An apple or two gets me back up to fighting fit usually. Try it, i swear by it.
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All these recent posts about MrFireUK aren't looking too good, I guess I'll just have to wait and see when it hopefully gets here.
Who has the best product at the moment?
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Everyone seems to agree it's BM, boymaster
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The best cure I've found is 150-200mg of instant release tramadol, it always gets me back on my feet within an hour or so. In case you haven't eaten in a while you should take it with a light meal (a protein drink will do) or you might get nausea. Also, for obvious reasons, you shouldn't take it too often.
The rest you already know; water, food, vitamins, yada yada :)
:o tramadol? I might still have some 50mg somewhere. I only ever took 2 when my wisdom teeth caused some unstoppable pain. Worked, wasn't prescribed, didn't care, got nausea since not eaten in days. Preferred it over pain though.
I prefer the non-pharma route for comedowns. An apple or two gets me back up to fighting fit usually. Try it, i swear by it.
I probably need to eat a full tree by now :) but I agree, add some weed to the mix and you'll be fine. Low dose Antihistamines might work also, gotta be careful though to not dose it too high ;)
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Hey guys, just wondering if any of you has ordered from BM with both priority and his regular, cheaper option. I opted for the latter and am wondering how much faster it'll be. So amped to see what all the fuss is about with this stuff.
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Ideas for the best cures for a speed comedown?
more speed? :) the most effective: benzos (not recommended though), modafinil helps some, the stuff ohnoes mentioned in his last post (phenibut), weed works for some, maybe the GABA analogues like gabapentin (never tried though).
I swear by my b complex mix with vitamine C, and folate (Needed for new neurotransmitter production). Also scheduled tylenol and ibuprofen are a surprising huge help for me.
I did a closer inspection of MFR's second package received one week later from first brilliant white that was decent, most functional, clean speed. It is more dark tan to brown and uniform in color. Dry/spongy moist clumps?, harder to crunch (But still slightingly wet) 1-4mm crumbs with a very strong chemical smell. His white was difficult to smell unless nose in bag. CC's and MrF's v1 looks very similar. Did 50mg of CC's 9 hours after 30mg of vyvanse and had 50mg of BM's yesterday....I talked my ass off today and had great cognitive function. BM's had a lot more euphoria yesterday, but I hadn't had any stim's for 5-6 days and no benzo's.....great stuff.
Much darker than BM's.
The Marquis looked great dark red/orange color with quick dissolve. Odd thing was the small chunks wouldn't dissolve with the Simon's reagent? Although no color reaction so it appears to be no meth.
I decided to try a new shipment of CC's first today (Looks exactly like the last), made up two 50mg oral doses of MRF's for tomorrow to try. If the purity is on par then I don't care what color it is, but when I have this much quality around me.....there is no where to hide for poor quality.
I messaged him two days ago and never clicked on my message. I sent another today.
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Regarding the surprisingly low potency of the bag which I received from MrFireUK after ordering his 90% Amphetamine, I messaged him to query it.
This is the conversation between myself and MrFireUK over the past two days:
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ME:
Hi, thanks for the fast and discreet delivery service, however the quality of the product is nowhere near as good as advertised.
90%+ no way.
I really hate to complain, but I'm considering editing my feedback and downgrading the score as it's just not fair on other buyers.
What happened? Is there someway this could have been cut at some point of the supply?
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ME (2nd message after no response):
Hey, Sent you a message yesterday,
I realize you're probably busy so may not have seen it, but I'd like to reiterate my concern with the product I have received.
I'm certain that this is a weak bag, I don't know how or why this should be, but after messaging you and receiving no reply I voiced my concerns on the forum and others have expressed the same concerns with some of their bags.
There is rising speculation of selective scamming taking place.
Now, I'm sure you are a stand up guy and some unknown factor may be at play here but what I have received is not pure amphetamine sulphate, not even close.
I am willing to put it down to an honest mistake and forget all about it, but I'd like a full refund of my initial payment please.
I've already lowered my initial feedback rating, sorry about that and it does not reflect the service provided which was excellent, it has to do with the low quality of the product I received.
Hope we can work something out,
look forward to your response.
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MrFireUK:
Hey mate,
sorry for the late reply , yeah was indeed fairly busy.
I'm sorry to hear that you're not satisfied with the product you've received. As much as I would like to I simply can't get every batch tested at a lab ... if I was living in a place like Holland I'd certainly do it no matter how much money or effort it would cost me but as I'm not living there I'll have to trust my suppliers. So far only a very small minority of my customers was not satisfied but all this talk about selective scamming really gets to me. I'm trying really hard to please my customers and I have never scammed anyone. When the Hofmann blotters I sold turned out to be a lot weaker than advertised I compensated my customers for that in a fair way although it did cost me a lot of money. I've given out refunds for all kind of bullshit reasons , I've been scammed out of a lot of money ... I have to deal with a whole lot of bullshit every day basically all while putting my freedom at risk.
I do get new batches all the time as I'm selling a few kilos of speed every week and 98% of my customers (which is probably around 700 customers) are very satisfied with what I deliver. I do not touch the speed in any way and then there are people who claim that it's not amphetamine but some RC or ephedrine or whatever .. it just does not make sense to me to be honest and I just don't want to deal with all the accusations anymore at least not right now when I've got some private IRL issues to deal with that are far more important to me than selling drugs or making cash to be honest. I will take down the listings for the amphetamine as soon as the current batch is sold off which will probably be in about a week. I've simply had enough.
As for a refund I don't think that a full refund would be fair in any way here.
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ME:
Thanks for the quick response,
I realize that managing logistics to the scale of which you describe must be taxing to say the least, but that is your choice.
And I'm sorry to hear you have RL issues too, must be a drain both mentally and physically.
Pulling all your phet listings seems like a drastic measure to say the least though, especially if your are confident in the quality of your supply.
I have to be honest, this could raise suspicion even more that you were aware of a potential issue in the supply chain.
Unfortunately, a vendor is only as good as his reputation, the quality of his product, and the service he provides.
The fact is, currently, your service is excellent, along with your reputation, this product however was not.
So my issue is, what to do with this essentially useless small bag containing roughly 0.8g of an unidentified and relatively inactive white substance?
Throw it away basically, and move on.
You've seen my purchase stats, and this was just a 1g purchase, a couple of coins...
If you think I'm trying to scam you for a couple of coins then you are grossly mistaken, I was in fact seeking a gesture from you to ascertain whether or not you were genuine...
A commodity which is rare, and vastly more valuable than any quantity of coins, especially to the community.
Keep the coins if you feel that you need them more than me, they are yours now regardless...
however, if you would like to make some kind of amends, let me know.
I'm thinking I should share this conversation with the community, unless you have any great desire to keep it private?
And no, I'm not trying to apply pressure, just like to keep the community informed of current affairs, it's how buyers and vendors stay safe, you're smart, you know this.
Best of luck
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It's a good thing that you shared the conversation with the community, since he isn't active on the forums. It seems that the quality of his amphetamine just isn't consistent. Maybe it isn't a bad idea for him to quit his amphetamine sale :-\, he seems busy anyways.
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Damnit, I'm guessing I have this lacking in quality speed too then and it's not because I had a mildish GABA wd.. It's not inactive because it knocked my heart rate up (which the other stuff DIDN'T do) but did not give me any type of amphetamine effects or anythign at all really.
Can someone tell me if it's possible to take BoyMaster stuff and do work shit? Everyone says there's a bit of bodyload (like very spiking tachycardia... i liked the other orders from fireuk because it was a clean cogent high with no tachycardia, felt less unhealthy)
BM's 70% stuff would give similar effects. I really want to get CapeCrusaders stuff but I can't wait 2 weeks now (well, I'll order that too)
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Damnit, I'm guessing I have this lacking in quality speed too then and it's not because I had a mildish GABA wd.. It's not inactive because it knocked my heart rate up (which the other stuff DIDN'T do) but did not give me any type of amphetamine effects or anythign at all really.
Can someone tell me if it's possible to take BoyMaster stuff and do work shit? Everyone says there's a bit of bodyload (like very spiking tachycardia... i liked the other orders from fireuk because it was a clean cogent high with no tachycardia, felt less unhealthy)
BM's 70% stuff would give similar effects. I really want to get CapeCrusaders stuff but I can't wait 2 weeks now (well, I'll order that too)
You have only 2 choices ;)
BM or CC. So you have to stick to BM if you don't want to wait that long ;)
CC has less body load compared to BM as mentioned several times.
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Hey guys, just wondering if any of you has ordered from BM with both priority and his regular, cheaper option. I opted for the latter and am wondering how much faster it'll be. So amped to see what all the fuss is about with this stuff.
How are your experiences about those two different offered sending methods?
Is it really that faster? And how much difference lies between these two options?
Cant´t believe that the priority option is slower than the regular way of shipping.
Or did I misunderstood anything here?
Thx a lot 4 your opinions.
And, of course - have a nice and funny weekend!
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Damnit, I'm guessing I have this lacking in quality speed too then and it's not because I had a mildish GABA wd.. It's not inactive because it knocked my heart rate up (which the other stuff DIDN'T do) but did not give me any type of amphetamine effects or anythign at all really.
Can someone tell me if it's possible to take BoyMaster stuff and do work shit? Everyone says there's a bit of bodyload (like very spiking tachycardia... i liked the other orders from fireuk because it was a clean cogent high with no tachycardia, felt less unhealthy)
BM's 70% stuff would give similar effects. I really want to get CapeCrusaders stuff but I can't wait 2 weeks now (well, I'll order that too)
I studied 3-4 weeks in a row on his last batch. Took like 3x25mg/day nasally about every 3 hours, with a body weight of less then 70 kg. Was taking a St John's wort drug aswell, which is some "natural" antidepressant. Probably had some tolerance when I started, was doing the same with GE's speed before^^. I guess around 70kg the maximum is 50mg/day, but probably a good idea to start lower..
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I'm sorry to hear that you're not satisfied with the product you've received. As much as I would like to I simply can't get every batch tested at a lab ... if I was living in a place like Holland I'd certainly do it no matter how much money or effort it would cost me but as I'm not living there I'll have to trust my suppliers. So far only a very small minority of my customers was not satisfied but all this talk about selective scamming really gets to me. I'm trying really hard to please my customers and I have never scammed anyone. When the Hofmann blotters I sold turned out to be a lot weaker than advertised I compensated my customers for that in a fair way although it did cost me a lot of money. I've given out refunds for all kind of bullshit reasons , I've been scammed out of a lot of money ... I have to deal with a whole lot of bullshit every day basically all while putting my freedom at risk.
I do get new batches all the time as I'm selling a few kilos of speed every week and 98% of my customers (which is probably around 700 customers) are very satisfied with what I deliver. I do not touch the speed in any way and then there are people who claim that it's not amphetamine but some RC or ephedrine or whatever .. it just does not make sense to me to be honest and I just don't want to deal with all the accusations anymore at least not right now when I've got some private IRL issues to deal with that are far more important to me than selling drugs or making cash to be honest. I will take down the listings for the amphetamine as soon as the current batch is sold off which will probably be in about a week. I've simply had enough.
He had enough money, I guess. Now it's blowing all up. Who would have guessed?!
He's still responsible for what he sells. 98% satisfied still doesn't justify ripping 2% off.
What a load of BS. I'm very sorry for all he has to go through. Thanks for doing this for us! Kappacino put it very well (it just fits so perfectly):
Fucking hell man, calm the fuck down. You sell drugs, and you spend a lot of time doing it. Selling drugs is risky. We fucking get it.
But selling drugs on sr is about 10000x less risky than selling them irl (with many vendors having done so before or continuing to do so).. Yet I've never, fucking ever, heard anyone come out with this sorry ass [...] line of shit. [...] As your customers, we don't owe you anything more than the cash we give you, and the adherence to the rules of service that you ask of us. Once we've done that, and you've held up your end, that's the whole fucking relationship complete. And hell a formal "Thanks!" probably wouldn't hurt either.
But why are you in this game..? For an image of being a "hard working vendor" and to be thanked endlessly..? Or for the money?
Stop with this moral blackmail. I don't give a fuck if you spend all day doing it, you chose this line of work, no-one forced you into it. And to be honest I know people on here that make a fucking killing and are happy to work such long hours. Almost all the other vendors here don't come out with this bollocks, they just get on with the job they chose to do, knowing the risks of same.
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Can someone tell me if it's possible to take BoyMaster stuff and do work shit? Everyone says there's a bit of bodyload (like very spiking tachycardia... i liked the other orders from fireuk because it was a clean cogent high with no tachycardia, felt less unhealthy)
BM's 70% stuff would give similar effects. I really want to get CapeCrusaders stuff but I can't wait 2 weeks now (well, I'll order that too)
Of course it is. Intense bodyload will come with intense dosage :) valentinesmith also worked on BM's gear. CC's will have less bodyload. Personally I don't mind the physical effects from BM at all, I actually really like it. I'd suggest to try both and pick your favorite. I agree that BM's feels more unhealthy, but speed is unhealthy.
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Just had some further chat from MrFireUK, and I actually think he is a good guy, he seems genuine to me.
Anyway, have a read and make up you own mind's:
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MrFireUK:
Hey mate ,
it seems like no matter what I do some people will always think the worst of me.
All I can say is that every customer gets the same stuff and I never cut it. I sell it as I get it - I keep getting new batches all the time and while I certainly can't get every new batch tested at a lab (would be useless anyway as by the time the results would be available the batch would be gone) I always make sure that the quality is good by testing it myself.
I'm obviously only human and while I do have a fair bit of experience when it comes to drugs I can't tell the difference between 70% purity or 90% purity just by using some of it and I doubt anyone can but what I can certainly do is tell if it's good speed or some "unidentified and relatively inactive white substance" and I honestly don't know why some customers (a small minority though) are not satisfied with the product or even barely feel anything at all.
I do care about my reputation and my customers - maybe even more than I should. I've given out refunds for all sorts of reasons - some justified and some were absolutely not. All this talk about me being a selective scammer or what not really gets to me and right now I just can't take all that shit anymore. I'm just a vendor who is really trying his best to supply his customers with quality products and keep them satisfied. If taking down the listings now looks suspicious to you then so be it but leaving them up while all those rumors (no matter if they are true or not) are getting started is not an option for me right now. So as soon as this batch is sold off I'll take the listings down and then I'll decide where to go from there. Maybe that will make some of the guys that are claiming some bullshit like it's not amphetamine but ephedrine or some RC happy because they will be able to sell some of their stuff again...
If you think I care about a couple of coins then you're mistaken - the reason why I did not want to give you that refund was not because I'm a greedy motherfucker or I don't have a couple of coins to spare but simply the fact that I'm of the opinion that the speed I'm selling is of high quality and that any complaints are not justified. Maybe I'm wrong , you seem like an honest guy with a few transactions under your belt and what you've received was for whatever reason not as good as it should have been. I've sent you that refund now.
Please post this conversation in my feedback thread - I don't want it to be private. In fact I haven't visited the forums for a few days now mainly because of all those rumors that are spreading (well and lack of time). There is still about 900g of speed left , 400g of MDMA and 200g of weed .. as soon as that is sold off I will take a break for a couple of weeks , sort out the IRL issues , re-think my business strategies and then come back relaxed and determined and get back to making people happy all around the world ... while making a decent living out of it.
Thanks for your message & have a good one!
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Me:
Hey,
I don't think people are thinking the worst, it's just that If there are inconsistencies between batches, then advertising as 90% and linking to corresponding test results is somewhat misleading.
However I am in no way advising how anyone conducts their own business, I am just a buyer and as such can only feedback on my experience as such.
I appreciate your openness, I will post this up for others to see as it certainly proves to me that you are genuine vendor, with morals and high standards.
I hope any issues you are having resolve themselves quickly.
Thanks again,
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I ordered a gram of MrFire's amphetamine Thursday Sept 6 and received it the following Thursday(Sept 13). From Germany to Canada in a week! Faster than some domestic Canadian vendors I've dealt with.
I took about 20-25mg orally about an hour ago and right now I'm flying. Can barely sit down to type this, just keep cleaning the house. My only other amp experience is dexedrine, one 5 mg dose, and 15mg on another day. So far this is crushing the 15mg dose. The powder I received is extremely white, dry, with lots of tiny clumps that that break apart rather easily.
I really hope he keeps selling this stuff, so much better value than scripts.
MrFire with due respect this is what several are talking about....there is a brilliant white batch (That is the best l-amphetamine isomer heavy pep on the market) and then there is the other stuff that gets sent randomly. I ordered two 10 g bags within a few days of each first is the white and the second is this sub par amphetamine with obvious cuts. I don't care what the color really is, unless everyone that doesn't get the white complains. It is a no brainer, provide what you advertise and what your customers want and you will have a lot more time to enjoy life and not do damage control. Shit happens, people will know if you are sincere, but just take care of your shit. I was ready to buy a whole load of your unique product, but now without trust you will not see another coin from me. Threaten to take the product down, your choice but you will have the same problems with whatever you decide to sell....because it isn't the product but the business model.
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I ordered two 10 g bags within a few days of each first is the white and the second is this sub par amphetamine with obvious cuts. I don't care what the color really is, unless everyone that doesn't get the white complains. It is a no brainer, provide what you advertise and what your customers want and you will have a lot more time to enjoy life and not do damage control. Shit happens, people will know if you are sincere, but just take care of your shit. I was ready to buy a whole load of your unique product, but now without trust you will not see another coin from me. Threaten to take the product down, your choice but you will have the same problems with whatever you decide to sell....because it isn't the product but the business model.
I'm totally with caffeine_me. The "business model" isn't the most solid. Most people probably don't even notice they got shitty speed. So why not sell 30% speed, everyone loved the caffeine batch. All that this fake advertising does is rip off people who know their speed and give them a slap in their face. (newbs don't notice anything, but technically they are still ripped off. I'm guessing it's sent out 50:50 at best, judging from this thread it's even less.)
Just had some further chat from MrFireUK, and I actually think he is a good guy, he seems genuine to me.
Anyway, have a read and make up you own mind's:
well played Backflip, well played! :)
Always plays the victim card. He cares about his customers but hides once people get suspicious. He doesn't have time but can put up huge walls of text in every reply. He is sure his speed is perfect but it's impossible to really check and take a look because you know it's so much and not his problem. He has given out lots of refunds but not to anyone I know except Backflip because he's a dirty liar and its good speed but it's also good publicity. He is fully convinced that it's all 90% speed but he admits Backflip received shit for "whatever reason".
seems legit.
But please don't post this shit here anymore, put it all in his vendor thread. He just gets too much airtime. Either we are fair and give every vendor that much ad-space or FUK packs his things and whores attention in his own thread. I'm for the latter.
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The whole FUK hype is getting fucking annoying.
We have only 2 legit speed vendors by now. So let's just stick to them. BM and CC!
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You know what, how are you all such experts on CC when he's only got 8 transactions?
also "onlinefreak" I don't know if english is your second language or what but you totally misread what I posted. I was asking a question, not making a statement. I was asking about priority
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You know what, how are you all such experts on CC when he's only got 8 transactions?
There's lots of people who received for the second time already. I think me, helhazz and caffeine_me received twice already. Still not claiming to be an expert and I don't see anyone who does?! calm down :)
edit: the samples won't show of course. doh
Hey guys, just wondering if any of you has ordered from BM with both priority and his regular, cheaper option. I opted for the latter and am wondering how much faster it'll be. So amped to see what all the fuss is about with this stuff.
Since you are complaining already and expect everyone to know where you live, you probably are from Murica. No offense, but Muricans are the only ones doing that. (same for "domestic" - no country then its US ;D ).
I always chose priority. I was told my very first order was not Priority, but I received very fast, I think I was among the first to receive. I never saw the blue priority sticker, so I can't say for sure if it was sent priority or not. First order took 3, the others 4 days. I already received from Spain in 2 working days, sent on Friday received on Monday. They always had a blue Sticker, but could have been Airmail, can't remember.
Our local post office says 3-7 days for Priority and 10-20 days for regular, to the USA. So it should matter quite a bit. You're welcome.
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I didn't mean that to come across aggressively and it wasn't for you to interpret it that way, hard to convey tone on the net properly. I was genuinely perplexed how it could be common knowledge he was amongst the best when there were only 8 transactions from him. One must assume that a decent portion of those transactions were people who don't even use the forums, I've heard many people saying he was in the top two, so I put it together and brought it up.
It's pretty funny to me how wrong you've got me though. Especially thinking I'm American, now that is funny. I'm so far from American it's quite humorous how you made that guess and how did you interpret me asking how much faster priority is the regular as complaining. Projecting much?
In fact, where did i say I wanted to know how long it would take. I just wanted to know how much faster priority was. Seems like you're the one with ants in his pants, with the passive aggressive "you're welcome" at the end.
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Imho your post had a slightly aggressive undertone. it still does. just as your next one.
Regarding CC, it's a valid question so I answered it. Don't think many people outside this thread ordered from him, he introduced himself here and the listing wasn't up that long.
I wanted to know what your statement was about. "don't know if english is your second language or what" sounds aggressive to me, just as "projecting much", saw your question and was amused by the fact you didn't mention your location at all. Murrican is a fair assumption, because they do that a lot and given the time it's mostly Muricans posting now. The distance to the destination is quite important here. Without it one can only guess. How much faster it is, is exactly what I answered with the USA example. But it still depends where you are. The You're welcome isn't passive aggressive, it's missing a :) though. I meant it exactly as I wrote it, no hidden aggression there, sorry :) I did the, at least to me, fairly easy lookup for you. So you're welcome :)
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At the time i released my first listing/samples i honestly wasn't ready to do so.. I didn't have much stock but with BM and FUK readying their pure batches i felt i had to act or fall behind.. On top of that i got tons of requests for samples hence the majority of my first small batch went out as samples and not actual orders that's why i could only manage 8 transactions.. And by the way 5 of those 8 customers were were in fact forum members..
@Methadonia: When was the last time you actually checked my vendor page? My transactions have since doubled to 16 and i still have a 100% rating.. In about 2 weeks there should be well over 50 transactions.. Why am i even an issue here? I've done nothing wrong.. This is about FUK and his wrong doings so keep it that way until you have any evidence of foul play from my side..
Cheers
CC
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At the time i released my first listing/samples i honestly wasn't ready to do so.. I didn't have much stock but with BM and FUK readying their pure batches i felt i had to act or fall behind.. On top of that i got tons of requests for samples hence the majority of my first small batch went out as samples and not actual orders that's why i could only manage 8 transactions.. And by the way 5 of those 8 customers were were in fact forum members..
@Methadonia: When was the last time you actually checked my vendor page? My transactions have since doubled to 16 and i still have a 100% rating.. In about 2 weeks there should be well over 50 transactions.. Why am i even an issue here? I've done nothing wrong.. This is about FUK and his wrong doings so keep it that way until you have any evidence of foul play from my side..
Cheers
CC
Its all good big buddy, no ones cranky with you seesee
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Is it not a fair question to ask, that if someone misundestands the entire point of a question and instead reads it as a statement when it's written quite plainly that possibly they may have had trouble reading it? I don't know how you interpreted me asking whether or not he had trouble reading it as aggressive. The same as how I wanted to know how different priority was and also whether people speaking highly of CC had actually ordered from him. That's three questions with no aggressive context or undertone you misconstrued. If you got slight aggression from my follow up post and this one too, it's because I'm exasperated having to justify and explain myself when no one else seemed to think so.
look, I'm not trying to start some meaningless online spat here and there was never any negativity or nastiness in my posts. I'm just trying to clarify. Sorry I misunderstood your tone, pretty easy once you've got a preconceived notion in your head about someone though. I didn't figure my location had any bearing in the matter. If you're from America, Europe, Belgium or even Timbuktu and have experienced priority and regular, just say that and I'll make the translation into my own region. I didn't want to know how long it would take to get to me in my region with priority, I wanted to know how much quicker it was in comparison. I didn't address is before but I don't understand how you could think I was "complaining already when I said I was excited to try it. This is really the last I want to say on that matter, I don't want to clog up this thread needlessly anymore then we already have.
Thanks for taking the time to help regarding that question anyway,
Edit: CC, I merely saw that your transaction history was out of proportion to the people who spoke about your gear in a familiar term, I just brought this up in a neutral manner. This has nothing to do with who's better or who's on the chopping block. I just wanted to know if people were recommending out of their personal experience or what they'd read. Also this is the amphetamine in general thread, so its about whoever sells amphetamines. I'm not trying to besmirch you.
ffff so much misunderstandings.
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Atmosphere in the mdma-thread is a bit less agressive and more friendly. Why am I not surprised?
I'm curious how it's like in the coke-thread. :D
However.
I ordered some stuff from Boymaster. Will report when it arrives.
Good night! ;)
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I have had two orders from CC at 15g's total, which at 50mg a dose....hmmmm yea a lot of heavy testing going on in my neck of the woods. I notice at least the first order review never showed up on his vendor page. I believe the custom orders he did for me (Thanks CC) do not show up. Both took 11 days from day of "transit" to US, although I suspect the time will be faster from here on out.
My first and second batch from him seem exactly the same...........amazing. Has my Best value for quality and price.. I shouldn't say all these nice things, then he'll raise the price on me and sell out too fast. I want it all for me damnit! >:(
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^ hahaha I totally know that feeling. Saw these real rare sedatives on here and for SO cheap, but I couldn't get coins on my acc for a bit. Said nothing to anyone til I could buy them all.
Next speed order I do, Definitely going to be CC, I think. From the feedback at first, i always thought BM was tops, but from what I hear people say cc has less body load to it
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I got all of your points. I thought it was a bit aggressive, so I answered in an attempt to stop a possible escalation. This can go pretty quick and is often based on misunderstandings. I do realize that you wanted to know if the priority upgrade is worth the money. I posted my experience as I actually used both, at least that's what I thought since I can't read the stamp anymore. But I quickly noticed that my experience won't help you, so I guessed your country and posted what my local postal service says. The shipping time is inaccurate of course as I am not from Spain, but the difference should be relevant though.
Have an upvote and let's call it settled.
I just wanted to know if people were recommending out of their personal experience or what they'd read. Also this is the amphetamine in general thread, so its about whoever sells amphetamines.
Relevant again. I agree that it's a fair question if you don't follow this thread excessively (does anyone read everything really? :) ) and it's hard to find with all that FireUK spam. I also agree that this is a general thread, so let's please stop to post everything that FireUK says and stick to discussion. If one is interested in the adventures of FUK and his mate, you can read his memoirs in his thread, it doesn't need to be mirrored here. That's just shameless advertising imho. No other vendor "abuses" this thread like he does.
Back to the point: I received my order but have no definite opinion yet, currently trying to get rid of every chemical that's still lurking in my body and to get Dopamine levels back up. My local friends who tested it all really liked it so far and the general consensus seems to be that it's potent, clean speed with little bodyload. Personally I really enjoy the physical stimulation (tingling, goose bumps when listening to music, etc.), the muscle twitches and cramps that come with it can be avoided with Magnesium. At least for me that works.
I'd really appreciate if some more people post their experiences about it, I am genuinely interested how other users perceive this. I never had FUK's good stuff and the cut gear acted totally weird, so I can't really compare. So far I am assuming that the cut shit also contains the same amphetamine sulphate, just way less of it.
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I wouldnt say he "abuses" the thread, Implying hes trying to get all this publicity. I'm fairly certain he is not interested in having you all talk about him, but he was being flamed pretty hard. Im not saying it wasnt justified, but dont blame him for the thread having a couple pages dedicated to talking about if his gear is good/bad.
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Was bored and played with Marquis. I was trying to make a video, but I screwed it up, need two more arms for that :-\
Left is BM, this was done first, needed only very little powder and pivoting, turned to a nice bright red and stayed like this.
Right is FUK, done like 20 sec later, had to pivot a lot to get a good reaction, it turned to some bright orange with yellow or light green strains to brown very quickly. It seemed like it wouldn't dissolve properly, so I had to move it a lot which destroyed most of the yellow/green spots (could appear green because it mixed with the orange), still visible at the top and side tho.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=023d96ab3d788c49b155517e3a2a5b8c.jpg
but im going to have 250 Generic self made adderall made with 3 very pure different amph sulphates. It works better than adderall for me but ill send out samples so you wont have to take my word for it.
I wonder what the ingredients could be. To me this sounds pretty lame, selling it as generic Adderall. Also not the best idea to mix the 3, I'll let you figure out why.
SR - where greed knows no boundaries.
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Here are the test results of a sample from MrFireUk that brought to a Dutch centre at 6 September.
There was 30% of speed in that sample and no cafeine.
30% of a maximum of 73% will give an absolutely purity of 41% and no 92%.
I bought 25 gram of that stuff so I feel me a litltle ????
I can buy this stuff on the street for 5 or 6 euro's a gram.
Just what I thought when I used the stuff this purity is never 92%.
Read my post from 6 september.
Regards speedie
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Wow what a surprise I just found in my mailbox, in transit on 11 sept and already in Holland all the way from South Africa, the package from CapeCrusader :D
Have not tried it yet, will do tomorrow but it smells not like amphetamine. In fact there's hardly any smell at all :P I'm really curious how this will work out.
Packaging was on par with stealth standards as set by Silk Road and weight is spot on :)
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Thank you speedie!
You should contact FireUK, show him the results and demand a refund.
Here are the test results of a sample from MrFireUk that brought to a Dutch centre at 6 September.
There was 30% of speed in that sample and no cafeine.
30% of a maximum of 73% will give an absolutely purity of 41% and no 92%.
I guessed 30-40%. Win!!
At least we have proof now.
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Here are the test results of a sample from MrFireUk that brought to a Dutch centre at 6 September.
There was 30% of speed in that sample and no cafeine.
30% of a maximum of 73% will give an absolutely purity of 41% and no 92%.
I bought 25 gram of that stuff so I feel me a litltle ????
I can buy this stuff on the street for 5 or 6 euro's a gram.
Just what I thought when I used the stuff this purity is never 92%.
Read my post from 6 september.
Regards speedie
I was waiting on this post since Friday. Thanks for bringing it to a test center and posting it on the forums :). You should definitely post this on MrFUK's feedback thread, and ask for an refund since the quality sucks.
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he's probably gone :( I'd post it, no problem haha but speedie really deserves the refund, he did the testing. And with 25g the rip-off gets pretty noticeable.
I nailed the % though 8) yess!!! ;D
edit: actually everyone deserves the refund, speedie just a bit more then the rest. I am looking forward to the unprovable excuse that will be made up. Pretty fucked up. Why not sell 50-60% to everyone and be honest about it? That would be very good speed.
SR - where greed knows no boundaries.
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Was bored and played with Marquis. I was trying to make a video, but I screwed it up, need two more arms for that :-\
Left is BM, this was done first, needed only very little powder and pivoting, turned to a nice bright red and stayed like this.
Right is FUK, done like 20 sec later, had to pivot a lot to get a good reaction, it turned to some bright orange with yellow or light green strains to brown very quickly. It seemed like it wouldn't dissolve properly, so I had to move it a lot which destroyed most of the yellow/green spots (could appear green because it mixed with the orange), still visible at the top and side tho.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=023d96ab3d788c49b155517e3a2a5b8c.jpg
but im going to have 250 Generic self made adderall made with 3 very pure different amph sulphates. It works better than adderall for me but ill send out samples so you wont have to take my word for it.
I wonder what the ingredients could be. To me this sounds pretty lame, selling it as generic Adderall. Also not the best idea to mix the 3, I'll let you figure out why.
SR - where greed knows no boundaries.
Oh? Theres a huge demand for adderall, and the people of SR want a cheaper alternative. Ill be lucky to get this going, i was just seeing if people were interested, and they are. I dont see the problem with the mix, i do it all the time. Adderall is 4 different amphetamines. Enlighten me, oh great sage.
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There is a huge demand for REAL adderall, because you can be sure it's 100% clean pharmaceutical amphetamine.
If you mix your own shit together, nobody can be sure if it's pure. So you have just another speed product filled in pills.
It would clearly be scamming, if you sell this as adderall.
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I never said it was adderall, Im showing it as an adderall like product. Deathb4dishonor dosent have any trouble with this, and i know all my speed is pure.
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I never said it was adderall, Im showing it as an adderall like product.
You said it was selfmade adderall.
And it's clearly not.
You can't just mix 3 random amphetamine sulfates together and call it selfmade adderall.
and i know all my speed is pure.
Do you produce it yourself?
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I never said it was adderall, Im showing it as an adderall like product.
You said it was selfmade adderall.
And it's clearly not.
You can't just mix 3 random amphetamine sulfates together and call it selfmade adderall.
and i know all my speed is pure.
Do you produce it yourself?
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Adderall is just 2 sulphates and 2 other amph salts mixed.
I wont even be putting the listing up that way, Itll be listed almost exactly this way
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/e2c3329578
Ill just be lowering the price quite a bit, since i know my chemist.
Not even a vendor yet, already being flamed. Gotta love the speed thread.
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Sorry for that.
It just sounded to me as if you wanted to sell it as adderall.
I probably misunderstood you.
However, I wouldn't expect high demand.
Because it's just another speed product.
Maybe a good one, or maybe not. Nobody knows. (And that's the key difference to real adderall)
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Not just you, and i intend on selling it in the adderall section.
My 35 mg cap is almost just as, if not more potent than a 30mg adderall. Sadly my chemist cant synth USP grade amph illegaly.
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Adderall is 4 different amphetamines.
That's just so wrong. But would be a fun mix :o
You can't just mix 3 random amphetamine sulfates together and call it selfmade adderall.
Better :) And he said he sells it as 'generic adderall'.
Adderall is just 2 sulphates and 2 other amph salts mixed.
That's something else completely than you mentioned in your first post. I think it's correct, but misses the point of adderall. You have a chemist that makes 3 different amp sulphates?
I'm not gonna do the work for you because I really don't care that much, your customers might care though. All I was saying is if you are buying 3 illicit amp sulphates (from vendors here), mix them together (still bad idea) and sell them as Adderall, then that would be really lame in my opinion.
I'm not gonna buy from you and neither is anyone I know, so do whatever you must do. But please no more spam, everyone is waiting for the final act of the FUK drama. It's like watching a really bad soap on TV.
Oh and I did help you obviously, although I didn't intend to. You're still welcome :)
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Adderall is 4 different amphetamines.
That's just so wrong. But would be a fun mix :o
You can't just mix 3 random amphetamine sulfates together and call it selfmade adderall.
Better :) And he said he sells it as 'generic adderall'.
Adderall is just 2 sulphates and 2 other amph salts mixed.
That's something else completely than you mentioned in your first post. I think it's correct, but misses the point of adderall. You have a chemist that makes 3 different amp sulphates?
I'm not gonna do the work for you because I really don't care that much, your customers might care though. All I was saying is if you are buying 3 illicit amp sulphates (from vendors here), mix them together (still bad idea) and sell them as Adderall, then that would be really lame in my opinion.
I'm not gonna buy from you and neither is anyone I know, so do whatever you must do. But please no more spam, everyone is waiting for the final act of the FUK drama. It's like watching a really bad soap on TV.
Oh and I did help you obviously, although I didn't intend to. You're still welcome :)
It is 4 different amphetamine salts, Oh great sage you still have yet to inform me of why mixing amphs is a bad thing. The only amph i was even considering adding was going to be from here, because one of the 3 i use is harder to get to from sulphate. Figured i could just add a sulphate if they are pure as you say, oh great sage.
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By the while...our prices for 1, 2 and 5g have gone down.
The orders for 1 and 2g will be shipped by ordinary mail only.
And there will be a nice surprise for those who like the dextro enantiomer of Amphetamine...soon :)
Greets
BM
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weeeeee 8) very nice. Did you really separate the enantiomers?
I might have to order one more time ;D
edit: that was awesome timing btw everyone looking for adderall replacement should wait for the surprise 8) ;D
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Guess I ordered a bit to early. lol
Nevertheless, very nice.
Looking forward to test your gear. :)
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weeeeee 8) very nice. Did you really separate the enantiomers?
I might have to order one more time ;D
edit: that was awesome timing btw everyone looking for adderall replacement should wait for the surprise 8) ;D
I wasnt going to be doing this for weeks anyhow. You really like pushing out vendors huh?
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So CC came through in 10 days to Aus.
Packaging is a bit better than BM's, not by much though..
Super impressed by how quickly it came, BM was around 14 days , still waiting on MRFUKers letter at 17 days, had to extend , sounds likes its probably going to be crap anyway, dont know if i can be bothered disputing it(sorry Muslix).
CC's gear is alot whiter than BM's , BM's being more of a light orange/brown colour, also smells just as stanky but its definitely different, smells more like the phet smell im used to.
Will update on strength...
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I wasnt going to be doing this for weeks anyhow. You really like pushing out vendors huh?
I don't push anyone anywhere. I point out problematic products. And I also point out good products. This is how SR works. The feedback system is broken. People come here to get real opinions from real buyers. So I tell them. That's what this forum is for. You started all this, I mentioned it once and would have never thought about it again. In two days it would have been buried here with no one ever seeing it again.
If you take it personal and escalate it, why do you complain? I already said I think it's a bad idea. You think you can change my mind by provoking me? What do you expect? I even helped you. If you care so much for my approval, then figure out what's wrong and fix it. Remember, what you were promising didn't match what you were offering. I pointed that out. If you don't like me pointing it out, then don't do it. I always did that, not gonna make an exception for you. Why should I? If you want me to like it, offer a solid product, don't make false claims and don't rip anyone off. That's really all it takes. I'm sorry that I can't do all the work for you.
Oh the irony in quoting me :) You don't even offer anything yet, if you think my criticism was valid you could go fix it before selling it. Or you could take it personal, start whining and make a drama.
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sounds likes its probably going to be crap anyway, dont know if i can be bothered disputing it(sorry Muslix).
you mean FUKs? I hope for you that you get the good stuff and not the 40% thing I have. That would be such a problematic product haha :) Fine with me if you like it, you can have mine too if you want.
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Calling it generic adderall was a bit of a mistake. Should've said capsules of amphetamine. If you do samples I'll give em a try otherwise I think I'll probably pass. But will be keeping an eye out for reviews.
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Currently waiting on an order from both BM and MFK that was shipped about a week ago. Will update on quality and testing results when received. :)
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Summary of the last 3 pages, you can safely skip them now :) Just don't want to get it lost. was all that spam really necessary?
Mcstimulate, if you get pissed every time someone criticizes your product, you'll have a hard time selling here. Once you figured out what I was talking about, you might want to review your last post :)
Now that I am downvoted daily since I posted the truth on FireUK's thread (wonder who could be behind that), I might as well do something to deserve it: Anyone notice there's 2-4 guys who finalized Sunday night within an hour with pretty much the same feedback: "great products top seller!!!" "top seller!!! "fast delivery top seller!". I think that's totally cool from those guys, taking the time to do that so late. Respect to you. 8) Every now and then I check, lots of awesome feedback there. Never disappoints. Thumbs up.
TEST RESULTS FIREUK (courtesy of speedie):
Here are the test results of a sample from MrFireUk that brought to a Dutch centre at 6 September.
There was 30% of speed in that sample and no cafeine.
30% of a maximum of 73% will give an absolutely purity of 41% and no 92%.
I bought 25 gram of that stuff so I feel me a litltle ????
I can buy this stuff on the street for 5 or 6 euro's a gram.
Just what I thought when I used the stuff this purity is never 92%.
Read my post from 6 september.
Regards speedie
BM's ANNOUNCEMENT:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.msg469091#msg469091
my circadian rhythm is completely screwed up :( Anyone know an efficient way to fix it? valentinesmith?:)
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Go to bed early and waking up at a set time, say 8PM for 2 days, does the trick for me usually :)
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I bet there are lots of students who use Adderall while studying and don't think of it as "doing drugs". Many of them would not consider amphetamine powder an option since in their mind it is associated with whatever negative things they've picked up from anti-drug propaganda etc. Adderall has few or none of those negative associations, it's just a pill that you take when you need to cram for 12 hours straight. Some of their friends even take it every day for ADHD, so how dangerous can it be?
That, rather than the pharma grade quality, is why I think they pay a premium for Adderall or its' generics. It gets the job done and it's presented in a way that doesn't make them uncomfortable. If Mcstimulante's caps give more or less the same effects, manages to piggyback on the positive Adderall brand and is significantly less expensive (students are poor!) I think he might have that market segment nailed. Most people in this thread probably wouldn't buy it, but we're not in the target demographic.
The product name and description should of course reflect the fact that the caps are indeed homemade amphetamine caps and not generic Adderall. As long as there can be no misunderstandings about that I don't think it would be unreasonable to list them in the Adderall category. After all that's where his potential buyers would look.
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There already is a vendor selling 'generic' Adderall
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/32fee0ebc1
I don't know what price range McStimulate was thinking about but this vendor is selling them for ~5$ a pop.
Of course what you're saying is completely true Valentine, most people don't see Adderall (or Ritalin for that matter) as doing drugs. I get asked often enough if I have some Ritalin around exam periods because they heard "it helps them concentrate"..
Now I don't use Ritalin or Adderall during exam periods, but amphetamine instead. But I'm pretty sure when I offer them 0.5g of speed they wont want it and see me as this junky :P
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Right so I have bombed CapeCrusader's phet about 2 hours ago. I dosed out 100mg (yeah I have quite a large tolerance) and filled a rolling paper with it. Not snorting it since my nose is still messed up by MFUK's stuff (seriously what's in there?)
It was on an empty stomach so the onset was rather quick, peaked in like 30minutes and still cruising with a nice and very clean high. No noticeable heart rate increase and it makes me feel like I want to do stuff. I just did the most obvious thing to do, clean my apartment 8)
As for the smell.. it smells really 'sourish' never had anything that smelled like this at all, but it gets the job done so I'm not complaining :)
Have not eaten anything today yet, but my appetite is completely gone.
I would place this amphetamine in the top I've ever had, really nice gear :D
Gonna wait till BM has his new batch ready and order that too
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Go to bed early and waking up at a set time, say 8PM for 2 days, does the trick for me usually :)
Problem is that I wake up at 2-3 am, can't sleep, post shit here, go to bed again at 5 am. But changing the pattern and just do it for a couple of days could help. I'll give it a try. :)
That, rather than the pharma grade quality, is why I think they pay a premium for Adderall or its' generics. It gets the job done and it's presented in a way that doesn't make them uncomfortable. If Mcstimulante's caps give more or less the same effects, manages to piggyback on the positive Adderall brand and is significantly less expensive (students are poor!) I think he might have that market segment nailed. Most people in this thread probably wouldn't buy it, but we're not in the target demographic.
Fully agree with all of your points, but if you check bluelight, some guys can tell the difference between various generics. So telling them it's just the same as Adderall is false advertising. BM's announcement would serve the market much better than a mix of 3 amphetamine sulphates, that's asking for trouble. I got so used to the adderall effects, although I never was a heavy user that by now I notice everything that's just slightly off. So far this worked surprisingly well. But I also can't fully enjoy stuff that gives slightly different effects.
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Fully agree with all of your points, but if you check bluelight, some guys can tell the difference between various generics. So telling them it's just the same as Adderall is false advertising. BM's announcement would serve the market much better than a mix of 3 amphetamine sulphates, that's asking for trouble. I got so used to the adderall effects, although I never was a heavy user that by now I notice everything that's just slightly off. So far this worked surprisingly well. But I also can't fully enjoy stuff that gives slightly different effects.
I imagine most people with a bit of experience can tell the difference between Adderall (a roughly 75:25 mixture of different dextro- and levoamphetamine salts) and the presumably racemic amphetamine sulphate that Mcstimulant is suggesting. Hinting at our outright saying that the caps are exactly the same as the real thing (as opposed to a cheaper alternative with similar effects) would of course be incorrect, bad for one's karma, etc, but then again the description might change before the listing goes online. Kumbaya and all that. :)
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You can't make your own "generic" Adderall by just putting amphetamine sulphate in pill form. You're not going to get near the same effect unless you somehow obtain some dextroamphetamine powder and blend it in (and I've never seen anyone sell that here). And even then, Adderall still uses two other forms of the molecule in the mixture...
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@valentinesmith:
Now you ruined it :P
To paraphrase a lady on here: It's not hard to look it up, I could do it for you but I am not sure if the lazy bird should get a worm?
deathb4dishonor(98) lists it as Amphet Sulfate Capsules in Speed category, mentions something about Adderall but makes it very clear it's racemic. Doesn't sell well. Dextro is better though for working, at least from my experience. It's also much easier to handle. Much more inconspicuous than lines of powder.
Nothing going on... boring!
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@Letgoofyourego: my point exactly. You might see some dextro sulphate here, soon, maybe. It's a surprise!
And it's gonna cut my lines in half, best part haha :) Definitely gonna check it out
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I point out problematic products. And I also point out good products. This is how SR works. The feedback system is broken. People come here to get real opinions from real buyers. So I tell them. That's what this forum is for.
What a statement!
Keep on doing that like everyone should do so. Real opinions from real buyers.
As you act, you get an reaction. That´s in my eyes a pretty good system, the combination of SR with this forum, where feedback is given, positive and negative, exactly how the vendor and his product deserves it.
For s.o. who is new @ SR this is not only a good way to get informed, no - it´s definitely his only way before buying s.th. from a vendor he/ she doesn´t know yet and only reads description.
Hopefully more people would point out good products the same as problematic products honestly.
Well done, müslix!
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Hi Muslix, it's great that people like you take the time out to provide relevant information for buyers, especially noobs like myself. You were proven right with regards of Fire's gear so I don't understand why people would query your judgement. Personally I bought some of Fire's gear about 6 weeks ago, it was yellowish and I liked it. But I ordered from CC because of the good reviews and I shall try it out in a couple of days, I can't wait because it it's twice as strong as Fire's then I'm in for some fun times. I would order from BM but the price difference just now makes me think I'll wait and order again from CC if it's great stuff.
Just wanted to say thanks but the main reason I'm posting is in relation to your insomnia problem. I've heard some reports that magnesium citrate can be great for people having trouble sleeping but I haven't tried it myself. I have asked in the Drug Safety forum if anyone has used it to combat the side effects of amp use. I don't want to buy it if it's not really up to much.
So maybe you could have a read up on that and see if it could help you ;)
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For s.o. who is new @ SR this is not only a good way to get informed, no - it´s definitely his only way before buying s.th. from a vendor he/ she doesn´t know yet and only reads description.
If only more new buyers checked out the forum BEFORE making a sale.. ::)
Btw, I'm happy to see that AAKoven is finally off his nr1 spot and also his rating is down to 91.
More new buyers checking forum = lower AAKoven :)
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Go to bed early and waking up at a set time, say 8PM for 2 days, does the trick for me usually :)
Problem is that I wake up at 2-3 am, can't sleep, post shit here, go to bed again at 5 am. But changing the pattern and just do it for a couple of days could help. I'll give it a try. :)
Try going to bed at 2-3am and take speed in the morning.... A bottle of red and couple of valium seems to work in emergencies 8)
That, rather than the pharma grade quality, is why I think they pay a premium for Adderall or its' generics. It gets the job done and it's presented in a way that doesn't make them uncomfortable. If Mcstimulante's caps give more or less the same effects, manages to piggyback on the positive Adderall brand and is significantly less expensive (students are poor!) I think he might have that market segment nailed. Most people in this thread probably wouldn't buy it, but we're not in the target demographic.
Fully agree with all of your points, but if you check bluelight, some guys can tell the difference between various generics. So telling them it's just the same as Adderall is false advertising. BM's announcement would serve the market much better than a mix of 3 amphetamine sulphates, that's asking for trouble. I got so used to the adderall effects, although I never was a heavy user that by now I notice everything that's just slightly off. So far this worked surprisingly well. But I also can't fully enjoy stuff that gives slightly different effects.
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@helhazz: not exactly what I was looking for ;) but I agree it'll work 8)
You were proven right with regards of Fire's gear so I don't understand why people would query your judgement. Personally I bought some of Fire's gear about 6 weeks ago, it was yellowish and I liked it.
I'm proven right a lot, it's starting to get creepy. I don't mind if anyone disagrees with me, if you liked the speed, even if it was the 40% batch, that's good for you. You got more value for your money than I did. I am spoiled by lots of pharma grade amph(/similar speed) and years of (ab)use. Judging purity is hard for me as well, but with FUKs it was very easy, just looking at it revealed that it's cut and I guessed the purity with BM as reference. The latter was at least twice as strong. Not that hard anymore. BM's gear is imho pretty much spot on effect-wise, exactly how I remember it, makes a good reference. People not believing that there's an obvious difference between FUK and BM is kinda weird, but expected.
I've heard some reports that magnesium citrate can be great for people having trouble sleeping but I haven't tried it myself. I have asked in the Drug Safety forum if anyone has used it to combat the side effects of amp use. I don't want to buy it if it's not really up to much.
I am actually using Magnesium Citrate. It helps against muscle twitches and cramps. And it makes my stomach feel better, sometimes. I was under the impression that Mg is used as an antacid, but not all salts are mostly the Hydroxide is used. Citrate still helps me when my stomach is upset, no idea why, maybe Placebo. I don't think it can help against insomnia, at least I never fell asleep after drinking it :) Maybe dose dependent. I wasn't really looking for sleep aids, but how to get my circadian rhythm back in order more quickly. It unfucks itself eventually, but would be nice if I can speed it up a little. Knomo's tip regarding sleep hygiene sounds reasonable. I'll start tomorrow :P
Btw, I'm happy to see that AAKoven is finally off his nr1 spot and also his rating is down to 91.
How do you figure that out? If I sort by seller rank, #1 is supertrips, lol.
best selling was indeed aakoven for a while, but if you check the listing only a few people bought it recently. Looks like an accumulated value, like some alltime highscore. pointless. but maybe I'm missing something.
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I've been taking Magnesium Citrate 150mg capsules (1-3/day) for the past 2 months after hearig its potential to reduce amphetamine tolerance and decrease elimination rate of amphetamines (through the alkalization of urine; similar to baking soda in that respect). It can also relieve some nervous symptoms of speed use, and it's notable to mention that a high percentage of North Americans are deficient in magnesium, which can cause anything from insomnia to depression.
People that find relief of their insomnia through a magnesium supplement are likely making up for their dietary shortcomings of magnesium.
If you're buying magnesium supplement STAY AWAY from 'MAGNESIUM OXIDE', as it has very low bioavailability (~1%), and is quite inexpensive, which is why it is added to many supplements even as filler for other magnesium compounds.
[Note: Start off slow with magnesium as too much can cause diarrhea. This usually occurs in doses in excess of 400mg, although certain individuals may be considerably more sensitive.]
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Thanks for that Magnesium Citrate tip, I'll look into that.. Do you notice anything from taking it?
Btw, I really underestimated CapeCrusaders speed, bombed 100mg over 16 hours ago and still can't sleep.. It's 5.30AM here atm ::)
Just re-dosed with 50mg and making a big breakfast to get me through the day
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Here are the test results of a sample from MrFireUk that brought to a Dutch centre at 6 September.
There was 30% of speed in that sample and no cafeine.
30% of a maximum of 73% will give an absolutely purity of 41% and no 92%.
I bought 25 gram of that stuff so I feel me a litltle ????
I can buy this stuff on the street for 5 or 6 euro's a gram.
Just what I thought when I used the stuff this purity is never 92%.
Read my post from 6 september.
Regards speedie
Respect dude really nice of you to test so many samples.
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agree with steamer, he really deserves some sort of reward and especially a fund from FUK. I'm guessing he does it mostly to know himself, but it's still pretty awesome.
it's notable to mention that a high percentage of North Americans are deficient in magnesium, which can cause anything from insomnia to depression. .
If you're buying magnesium supplement STAY AWAY from 'MAGNESIUM OXIDE', as it has very low bioavailability (~1%), and is quite inexpensive, which is why it is added to many supplements even as filler for other magnesium compounds.
what's the reason Americans have an Mg-deficit?
About the Oxide: If it's mentioned on a product that you are supposed to drink, like some tabs or powder, it's likely that there is also Citric Acid in it (the oxide is almost unsalable in water). Mg Oxide and the citric acid will react to Mg Citrate when dissolved in water. I am using a granulate that does exactly that. I mostly use supplements that have be dissolved in water, so I have to drink something as well.
Here's one reason why the feedback system sucks:
5 of 5 definitely not 90% as advertised, but still okay stuff. good packaging and arrived quickly. 8 hours
best possible rating? for 40%? it's only half the amph sulphate you were promised. ???
but I also suggest to do that if you plan on asking for refund, FireUK seems to just ignore people who gave him an honest rating.
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So ive noticed that CC's gear dissolves MUCH easier than BM's in water, any ideas on why?
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Could be because it's freebase amphet (base) and not a sulphate?
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probably because it's cut with smack to get us all addicted. j/k
could be that there are still some tiny leftovers from the base which is not soluble in water. could also explain the color. but i am only guessing.
valentine smith was right, Amphetamine sulphate is vastly more soluble in hot water than cold.
do both fully dissolve?
edit Methadonia beat me to it by 23 minutes, tor is totally awesome today ;D
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hehehe, in with a grin! Perhaps adding a tiny bit of a weak acid like citric or absorbic acid might help as it does with #3 or crack cocaine. Will test this when my BM order arrives. Should be soon
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hehehe, in with a grin! Perhaps adding a tiny bit of a weak acid like citric or absorbic acid might help as it does with #3 or crack cocaine. Will test this when my BM order arrives. Should be soon
In related news, I just had some #1 amphetamine and now I need to go do #2.
OnT: Has anyone published lab tests of BM's and/or CC's current batches? It would be interesting to see and I'm sure whoever has the highest purity wouldn't mind the bragging rights. :)
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So ive noticed that CC's gear dissolves MUCH easier than BM's in water, any ideas on why?
Any sign of MrFire's gear yet Spice?
Looking like I'll have to extend.
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OnT: Has anyone published lab tests of BM's and/or CC's current batches? It would be interesting to see and I'm sure whoever has the highest purity wouldn't mind the bragging rights. :)
Nope, but it would indeed be interesting. I can only test about 1x per month at a party. Lots of people, long waiting and $$$ entry fee don't help the motivation :)
Maybe speedie is up to it? :) I could provide sample
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So ive noticed that CC's gear dissolves MUCH easier than BM's in water, any ideas on why?
Any sign of MrFire's gear yet Spice?
Looking like I'll have to extend.
No show, finalized anyway, not too disappointed , sounded like it was probably weak anyway .
Hopefully mine doesn't turn out the same. Not bothered by losing $30 or so, more concerned about it not getting through/drop possibly being flagged.
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Slim chance, but maybe.. Does anyone have access to an ebook version of this:
D. BARCELOUX - Medical Toxicology of Drug Abuse: Synthesized Chemicals and Psychoactive Plants (Wiley 2012)
amazon.com/dp/0471727601
does someone maybe have full 0day access? :)
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Slim chance, but maybe.. Does anyone have access to an ebook version of this:
D. BARCELOUX - Medical Toxicology of Drug Abuse: Synthesized Chemicals and Psychoactive Plants (Wiley 2012)
amazon.com/dp/0471727601
does someone maybe have full 0day access? :)
no, but it is like almost every reference books viewable on books.google in a "preview", which means pages are not shown randomly, but most of these pages are created randomly, so every time you reload the book, while using a new identity in tor, different pages will be skipped. 8)
http://books.google.com/books?id=9JLiJcjdqkcC&printsec=frontcover
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Go to bed early and waking up at a set time, say 8PM for 2 days, does the trick for me usually :)
Problem is that I wake up at 2-3 am, can't sleep, post shit here, go to bed again at 5 am. But changing the pattern and just do it for a couple of days could help. I'll give it a try. :)
Your circadian rythm is largely based around when you eat your first/last meal. Soemthign to google and keep in mind. It is the main factor for mine.
On MRFIREUK stuff:
What I have now, I don't know if it's even 42%... I just snorted like 85 mg and I could go for a fucking nap right now.
The previous orders I received were good stuff, I only needed like 40mg to become highly motivated, active. Good clean speed effects.
This stuff I have now, it looks similar to the other stuff but it's pretty much useless.
I don't know why the fuck you would tamper with what was a uniquely good amphetamine product. It was clean and great for work with no nasty/unhealthy bodyload.
muslix btw, saw you mention you enjoy the bodyload a few times? this refers to high blood pressure and tachycardia etc. Basically bad stuff, why do you enjoy it? I like the bodyrush and electric feeling/sensation of stimulants but hate the bodyload.
I made an order from BoyMaster and I will order from CC too. Spent 4 weeks now without experiencing dopamine efficiency.
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I went to a legally test lab with the speed from MrFireUK, It was the same lab where Flyerz1934 did the test.
The result was 40.7 %. Don't understand me wrong, I like his amphetamine but it's not the promised strength :'(
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CapeCrusader's amphetamine arrived yesterday :) really quick delivery, about one week to middle europe.
Didn't try it yet, but it has a really weird smell, a bit sour ??? never had stuff with this smell.
I went to test lab today and will have the results on friday evening.
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Yesterday I placed an order by BM and bring this to the test center at 27 September. That's my first opportunity because I don't think It will be at my home this thursday .
I will have the results at 5 october so in the meantime BM certainly will have another batch.
That is and will always be the problem with testing.
It only give us an idea how honest the vendors are on this moment and nothing more.
When I have new bitcoins and no speed anymore I will place an order by CC.
This can take a while because I have still a lot of MrFireUk's stuff
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Didn't try it yet, but it has a really weird smell, a bit sour ??? never had stuff with this smell.
I know right? Really weird smell, but it's good gear :D
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I went to a legally test lab with the speed from MrFireUK, It was the same lab where Flyerz1934 did the test.
The result was 40.7 %. Don't understand me wrong, I like his amphetamine but it's not the promised strength :'(
I think the problem is that he ended up with both cut and uncut stuff because he's apparently not the one doing the buying and packaging. 30mg of the stuff he sent out a few weeks ago gets me going more than 150mg from a dutch vendor.
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Damn, still waiting for CC's :( 14 days now.
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muslix btw, saw you mention you enjoy the bodyload a few times? this refers to high blood pressure and tachycardia etc. Basically bad stuff, why do you enjoy it? I like the bodyrush and electric feeling/sensation of stimulants but hate the bodyload.
I made an order from BoyMaster and I will order from CC too. Spent 4 weeks now without experiencing dopamine efficiency.
hm, no I don't enjoy high blood pressure or tachycardia. who would enjoy that?
Just googled it: Bodyload = unpleasant, body rush = body high = pleasant. was under the impression body load is neutral and can be good/bad. ooops :-[ :-[ :-[ Sorry for the confusion!!
Should be clear from the context though? I had no proper word for it, in German we made one up so no one would understand it. I often add physical stim. (tinging/goose bumps) to better describe it. Had no idea there was unique word for it.
You are the first to notice.
BM GIVES NICE BODY HIGH not body load. :-X
Thanks for pointing out. :) Sounds indeed much better now. Awkward mistake. I blame the language barrier. Me speak english not so good. :-[
edit: he nails it - dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.msg463555#msg463555
yea heart rate can go up, but it never got unpleasant. The only unpleasant thing I experienced was muscle twitches and cramps, but only once so far and Mg fixed it, only on high doses.,
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muslix btw, saw you mention you enjoy the bodyload a few times? this refers to high blood pressure and tachycardia etc. Basically bad stuff, why do you enjoy it? I like the bodyrush and electric feeling/sensation of stimulants but hate the bodyload.
I made an order from BoyMaster and I will order from CC too. Spent 4 weeks now without experiencing dopamine efficiency.
hm, no I don't enjoy high blood pressure or tachycardia. who would enjoy that?
Just googled it: Bodyload = unpleasant, body rush = body high = pleasant. was under the impression body load is neutral and can be good/bad. ooops :-[ :-[ :-[ Sorry for the confusion!!
Should be clear from the context though? I had no proper word for it, in German we made one up so no one would understand it. I often add physical stim. (tinging/goose bumps) to better describe it. Had no idea there was unique word for it.
You are the first to notice.
BM GIVES NICE BODY HIGH not body load. :-X
Thanks for pointing out. :) Sounds indeed much better now. Awkward mistake. I blame the language barrier. Me speak english not so good. :-[
He's not the first who noticed. This was a good reason for not buying from BM because I hate body load ;)
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If you mean unpleasant heart rate/high blood pressure with body load, what exactly do you mean with 'clean' ?!
Only stuff that gave me ugly body load per this definition is FireUK's speed.
no, but it is like almost every reference books viewable on books.google in a "preview", which means pages are not shown randomly, but most of these pages are created randomly, so every time you reload the book, while using a new identity in tor, different pages will be skipped. 8)
http://books.google.com/books?id=9JLiJcjdqkcC&printsec=frontcover
excactly were I found it ;) didn't know they were random though, need to try that. Thanks! :)
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On MRFIREUK stuff:
What I have now, I don't know if it's even 42%... I just snorted like 85 mg and I could go for a fucking nap right now.
This stuff I have now, it looks similar to the other stuff but it's pretty much useless.
wtf is going on here with him and his offered high-qualtity-gear??
I can´t believe it, and I just figured him out - as I´m new @ SR - to be the guy I´ll give a try,
can´t believe what is going on here now.
There are much more reliable and more honest people here, I think.
FUK, I´m sorry, but I can buy cutted substance here on the street for 10 eur a gram...lol
The truth will always be telled, that´s a very positive and helpful feature here.
Thanks to everybody for beeing honest, in EVERY way, even if it hurts....!
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If you mean unpleasant heart rate/high blood pressure with body load, what exactly do you mean with 'clean' ?!
Only stuff that gave me ugly body load per this definition is FireUK's speed.
Meant me?
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He's not the first who noticed. This was a good reason for not buying from BM because I hate body load ;)
But the first to mention it. I am so used to another English-sounding word, that makes no sense and I am trying hard not to use it :)
Sorry again for the confusion. Please someone define 'clean' though.
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He's not the first who noticed. This was a good reason for not buying from BM because I hate body load ;)
But the first to mention it. I am so used to another English-sounding word, that makes no sense and I am trying hard not to use it :)
Sorry again for the confusion. Please someone define 'clean' though.
Guessing that "clean" just stands for gear having only very little side effects.
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It's also for a part subjective of course, on Dutch forums the effects of (reasonably) pure speed is often described as 'cleaner' when it's compared to speed with a relatively large amount of caffeine in it, which is said to generate more physical effects like higher body load and/or blood pressure/heart rate and for example sweating. I've also experienced blurred vision after a certain time and other side effects but I guess it's hard to say what specifically has caused those things because od'ing or slightly od'ing on amphetamine also can cause a wide range of side effects.
As a daily coffee drinker I'm not really bothered that much if the speed contains a certain amount of caffeine, some people like some more body load but I guess if you use it for studying it's probably better if it's as clean as possible. On the other hand I can't really imagine that studying after snorting a big line of pure speed is really let's say productive but maybe for some people it is :)
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So I was right after all, together with numbering. I kept saying that no matter which fUK batch, it was weak. Now, If the test results about fUK speed weren't posted, I'd still be getting spit into my face for posting BS...riiiiight. Suddenly everybody agrees....hypocrites.
In any case Im not touching any amph. here, except maybe BM's...untill he has some dex on the market!
Btw, since when is so much shit being posted? omfg...like 90% of posts carry 0 info-value.
peace
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but that's very subjective again. amphetamine has side effects in party dosages. even pharma grade gear, if you take enough.
I meant with clean a smoother, less physical demanding experience and less insane tweaking. I really took both from LSD-world, so for LSD users: clean = nice white (or needlepoint) xtal, very smooth visually and physically, everything feels and looks very polished.
so let's repeat:
BM: has very nice BODY HIGH/RUSH.
CC: less BODY HIGH, feels smoother, not as physical as BM.
FUK: nothing - then unpleasant body load - no euphoria. sucks. totally get why people mistake this for an RC.
BM's physical stimulation might get unpleasant for some if they do too much. You get very tweaky, and physical stim will get intense. But that's speed. Don't do too much. It has all the good effects and all the bad effects in the book. The full spectrum. Just how it should be imho. YMMV ofc
my apologies again, if this caused any confusion.
by nice body load, I actually mean pleasant physical stimulation (aka body high/rush), just like in the review I posted (he also says body load, but it should be clear from the context that it's pleasant).
I still recommend what I always did: don't be cheap, buy both, make up your own mind.
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^ From the moment I tested it and posted my review, I said it sucks. And not everyone got the cut speed. Or not as much cut.
Suddenly everybody agrees....hypocrites.
Btw, since when is so much shit being posted? omfg...like 90% of posts carry 0 info-value.
Oh the irony, haha :)
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Suddenly everybody agrees....hypocrites.
Btw, since when is so much shit being posted? omfg...like 90% of posts carry 0 info-value.
Oh the irony, haha :)
Ya...therefore might as well join the club.
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So I was right after all, together with numbering. I kept saying that no matter which fUK batch, it was weak. Now, If the test results about fUK speed weren't posted, I'd still be getting spit into my face for posting BS...riiiiight. Suddenly everybody agrees....hypocrites.
In any case Im not touching any amph. here, except maybe BM's...untill he has some dex on the market!
Btw, since when is so much shit being posted? omfg...like 90% of posts carry 0 info-value.
peace
Yeah, and I was repeatedly being down voted for being honest. LOL!
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Didn't try it yet, but it has a really weird smell, a bit sour ??? never had stuff with this smell.
I know right? Really weird smell, but it's good gear :D
The speed may be good but it shouldn't have a "sour" smell.. I am not sure what could be causing this.. We have been manufacturing in very small batches(10-15 grams at a time) as their was a delay in our equipment that we needed in order to scale up. Since Knomo and Raoul dukes orders were posted on the same day it is quite obvious that they both received the one small batch that somehow acquired this strange smell.. This has never happened before from the hundreds of batches we have manufactured before.. If this had been picked up before it was shipped the entire batch would have been discarded.. From here on we will be scaling up production to bigger batches so this kind of problem will be picked up much easier in the future should it ever occur again which i doubt it will..
I am really looking forward to the test results.. We do no have this type of testing facilities available here so i am excited to know what the exact purity is..
Best Regards
CC
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So I was right after all, together with numbering. I kept saying that no matter which fUK batch, it was weak. Now, If the test results about fUK speed weren't posted, I'd still be getting spit into my face for posting BS...riiiiight. Suddenly everybody agrees....hypocrites.
In any case Im not touching any amph. here, except maybe BM's...untill he has some dex on the market!
Btw, since when is so much shit being posted? omfg...like 90% of posts carry 0 info-value.
peace
Maybe you should refrain from the childish told you so and consider some things first (well, namely the definition of the word hypocrite).
I went through 2 seperate orders, and 2grams of really good speed that I received from FireUK and so did all the people who disagreed with you.. A majority were receiving good product hence he was in the topsellers with positive feedback. The top sellers thing is messed up but he still had like 99.100 with a lot of feedback that weren't just "FE" but rather "great quality" none of the regular crowd speed scammers (aakoven jeurgen etc) had that.
The speed was very clean, I thought it was around 80% per dosage range compared to BM's 70% stuff. It made me highly motivated and created just about zero bodyload which was a revelation to me. A good stimulant that does not create any tachycardia is welcome.
I was going to buy it in bulk but made a smaller 2g order instead that came just a week ago (the reason is I found some thigns suspect, a non-delivery for instance. the 92.5% claim, whlie it was the best speed I had it felt more around 80% at tops compared to BM's 70% and general dosage guides). Several weeks after my other orders. Now it seems his shipping lackey has been sending out random quality shit.
This 2g I received now basically gives me no positive effects. It just creates bodyload, I get dilated pupils. This is an immediate indicator to me that it's not the same. The other orders I received were the best speed I have ever tried in my life (much better than BM's 70%).
So in closing the majority of users who disagreed with you did so based on the product they had.. and most people were getting good product until now it seems. The vendor seemed honest, wrote detailed helpful, long and quick replies.
Who knows, maybe he doesn't know that some of the speed being sent out is shit now. He's not the one in charge of the shipping and handling I see. He can't make any denials now with concrete evidence and when loyal costumers who received good stuff are now receiving lower quality to effectively bunk.
I was posting that there was something off with this order before speedie posted his 42% results. In fact, the stuff I have now, I don't even know if it's 42% because then using the amounts I have with little to no tolerance should've produced some kinda decent effects.
In fact, I wonder how the hell this is giving me bodyload when the other orders did not- while being mentally stimulating while this isn't. It's making me feel faded is all.
It is just this recent order me and other people have been receiving it.
Someone else mentioned they got it back at 40.7%? Sounds like it's being cut on the spot all willy nilly like. I wish my stuff was 40%! more like <10%. I don't wish to try to snort more than 100mg (which at no tolerance should be plenty enough at 40%) because of the silly bodyload (It is odd.. because it doesn't happen until an hour later. it's silly because I get no positive effects)... and if it was 40% amphetamine then I should already be getting nice effects anyhow.
I bet if I got the stuff I have tested it'd be lower than that. I
You've no reason to be so smug, me and all the other people who said the product was good did so because it bloody was the best speed they ever had and I think most had tried BM's 70% previous too. Now those very same people saying the orders they receive now are no longer good. This doesn't make anyone a hypocrite it just makes people sorry they're not receiving good speed, and a bit perplexed why someone would ruin a good product when he was making money off it.. For someone who uses the abbreviation omfg I don't expect much though. Personally I'm glad I only ordered 2g instead of 25-50g.
So yes, I recommend AGAINST MrFireUK speed now. Not only on the basis of 2 new lab results, multitude of negative feedback but my personal experience. It has become hugely inconsistent thus the massive spike in negative feedback only 3-4 weeks ago it was all gravy. Thus the collective opinion has changed. Muslix said he must be a selective scammer. I guess he went from being very selective and sneaky to now custom mass scamming. Like 42% cut for speedie 25g.. even higher cut for lower amount orders.
If you have ordered it, received bad goods- and yoru feedback left was "FE" or something on good will from before.. Don't forget to change your feedback rating and message the vendor.
Fact of the matter is people are still leaving 5/5 feedback saying "top quality" in huge numbers. So saying that you were right all along while everyone was wrong is a bit curious. 2/3 of my orders have been great quality speed near advertised potency. From the looks of it even at this point on feedback not everyone is getting shit stuff even now. It's no an RC or any other product. It's just strange rubbish.
So I was right after all, together with numbering. I kept saying that no matter which fUK batch, it was weak. Now, If the test results about fUK speed weren't posted, I'd still be getting spit into my face for posting BS...riiiiight. Suddenly everybody agrees....hypocrites.
In any case Im not touching any amph. here, except maybe BM's...untill he has some dex on the market!
Btw, since when is so much shit being posted? omfg...like 90% of posts carry 0 info-value.
peace
Yeah, and I was repeatedly being down voted for being honest. LOL!
numbering don't complain abuot downvotes. You downvoted me twice for disputing that it was MDMA, an RC and Ritalin. You were in fact wrong. I didn't downvote you because I can't downvote (I don't post a bunch of one liners to get my postcount up) so I doubt your downvotes came from people disputing your claim.
Me and others were receiving quality stuff and we were a huge majority. DOn't complain about fucking downvotes please, you're responsible for 66% of mine for saying you were wrong about what a product was when you were in fact wrong. Contrast that to muslix who turned out to be right simply claiming it was low potency shit- and he had a good reference point with BM and CC's gear.. You were probably one of the unlucky first few to receive a cock order.. At this point there are still people receiving good orders scanning through the non FE feedback. Review by Bob arctor just a few days ago is spot on with my previous shit, knome also said his stuff is fine... but what I have doesn't come near it. You and muslix were the onyl ones I saw who complained about it while everyone else said it was good. You made some erratic false claims on the substance so I discounted your opinion. muslix made a case but he'd also been using 2 other products simultaneously but with 2 people it could've been order malfunction.
I don't think 42% speed qualifies as either MDMA, ritalin or an RC. My experience with the 1 out of 3 dud order is that it's some weak shit, even weaker than 42% and 40%. I would've accepted that because then I could've just increased my dosage by 85% rather than going through a gram without noticing any psychoactive effects.
TLDR;
Mrfireuk sends amazing great clean speed to a lot of people. one labtest with 92%.
Then some orders start becoming shit but positive reports are still trickling in.
Selective scammer? Probable but bizarre. Why risk it when you have a good product to start with and most of the users are getting it.
He does not ship the product himself, it's shipped by someone from a different country. Are they cutting it randomly? probable.
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muslix:
yeah lol a communication error. it was the bodyload comment which was why I was tentative about BM's new stuff.
I ordered a some now, I'm not sure if it was in another thread I saw you mention it and then figured we had a different understanding of the word. English isn't my first language either so I know some very drug specific terms can mean one thing or the other. Bodyload isn't exactly something used in regular conversation hehe, shit even errors on auto-correct.
It's why i didn't like meth either, way too much bodyload. I think there's an intersection where a drug is not worth knocking years off your cardiovascular health. There was a science article I read I think where the heart has a predetermined amount of heartbeats before it expires. So I definitely don't feel like using a drug that keeps my heartrate at sprint speed.
Bodyrush is welcome enough. Although it can lead to way too much porno accumulating. It's why I enjoyed MrFireUK before he's started ripping everyone off just now. It gave me no bodyload and very little to no physical stimulation so I could focus on doing work and stuff without being distracted. Either way I think lower doses of BM might do the same then.
It's part of the reason why cardio workouts are beneficial for your heart. If you're fit your resting heartrate/baseline heartrate becomes considerably lower and it drops quicker after straining giving you faster recovery times.
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Damn, still waiting for CC's :( 14 days now.
I'm sure it will arrive this week.. There are still orders that havn't arrived from the same day that i shipped yours.. It sucks when the postal system is this slow..
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Massive double take on the main page when I logged in, clicked away before I noticed it and when I went back it was gone. Anyone else see it?
Someone offering 28g of speed for 269btc. Hehe. Wow. That some sort of weapons grade speed?
Can I have a free sample?
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Massive double take on the main page when I logged in, clicked away before I noticed it and when I went back it was gone. Anyone else see it?
Someone offering 28g of speed for 269btc. Hehe. Wow. That some sort of weapons grade speed?
Can I have a free sample?
AspirantCooper sold some weapons grade shit for stupid price. DiscountDrugs sold / sells Best Dried Base Drug Bestest Best Speed Amphetamine Pure best shit ever for a stupid low price. (edit, forgot to point out that neither sold anything remotely amphetamine like)
Hey, if you're gonna scam, then scam once for lots of money or very little money so people don't care so much!
and besides, as is evident.. you might be sent a 98% pure sample and then make a bulk order of stuff that doesn't even rival a shit cup of Nescafe. I nearly fucking did...
OH wait, 269 btc?
That's obscene.
NO one will fucking buy that whether it's a scam or a miraculous 100% pure.. What a moron. You don't need to be smart to scan people, you just need to be devoid of any fucking moral or human decency (or really high). Shit, you could even name your shop "DiscountDrugs", even I fell for that trick. To be fair to myself I did search through the whole thread then and there were no negative reviews and no other vendors were selling that hadn't been discredited... still, why did I send money to "discountdrugs" expecting anything but solvent and caffeine powder. Holy shit. Well, it's up to BM and CC to keep offering good products and not do a MrFireUK (that shit still baffles me, if you can attain 92% in the first place which NO other scammers on the forum have done- why would you start selectiev scamming including smaller orders... I personally think he has a rat in his shipping department- but then again he supplies illegal drugs. We're not buying from mother Theresa.
Still, I specifically pointed out the the guy that I was giong to buy a larger bulk order.. so why did he send me shit speed on 2g's if I was going to buy fifty, he'd already sent me one sample and 1 gram of strong stuff. 2g more of the good stuff and i could've gone hook line sinker zzz. oh well thanks I guess.. Nothing makes any sense other than his shipping department having developed a speed habit/money scam habit and cutting the product while taking pure for themselves... or someone planning on not selling speed again and doesn't care about burning bridges . Weird. If I was selling speed and people suddenly had proof that quality was being dropped while someone else was shipping it for me from the same batch, well I'd be quick to the machete. Even family do fucked up shit to eachother so I don't know how he's got such huge trust for someone that runs a critical end of shit. If he was in fact not in on this then the two conflicting lab results should be pretty damning and he should damn well sort it out- or stop accepting orders.
Nobody gives a rats ass about a vendors personal life. It's business. If you can't run it then stop trying to, especially when it's costing other people.
I still find the whole thing highly confusing, if you have 92% pure speed- a low risk medium and a huge customer base.. That is an endless supply of dough rolling in. Why on earth would you start tampering with some orders when you've got cashflow?
Quite bizarre.
edit: never mind, the most likely theory is-even if he's selling 40%/42% purity the people who receive this as a first order.. with no reference point other than shit street speed which is 10-20% + caffeine- they will call it top quality speed. Therefor he gets a ton of quality detail reviews even if he sold them less than half advertised purity.. now considering 90% of all the speed vendors sell you caffeine powder or some fucked up concoction of 99% bullshit with 1% taurine they call speed but write isn't "nice coke high!". Still, I did not get no damn 40% pure amphetamine. my shit is nutlow, it just dilated my pupils and makes my heart beat faster.
There's only a few of us who have tried higher purity stuff such as BM and recently CC and have a reference point.. and even fewer who have an ability to labtest it. Maybe this is a guide on how to rip people off slowly... but it still requires you to have a 92% pure product in the first place. Hope I don't give BM and CC any ideas :)
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Received 1g of MFK's 40+ hours ago. There's no way in hell this is the advertised purity.
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Received 1g of MFK's 40+ hours ago. There's no way in hell this is the advertised purity.
Then you should go change the feedback you left to 1/5 and describe this. Also contact the vendor with the issue, if you think the response is fishy then post it here. Can't do anything else but at least do that.
All I see is my 1/5 rating (I would've given 3/5 if it was even 40%) and then a ton of 5/5. Rating system is broken as long as people don't know how to use it and never amend their ratings.
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Received 1g of MFK's 40+ hours ago. There's no way in hell this is the advertised purity.
Then you should go change the feedback you left to 1/5 and describe this. Also contact the vendor with the issue, if you think the response is fishy then post it here. Can't do anything else but at least do that.
All I see is my 1/5 rating (I would've given 3/5 if it was even 40%) and then a ton of 5/5. Rating system is broken as long as people don't know how to use it and never amend their ratings.
Just edited my feedback. :p
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Thanks CapeCrusader for replying, I'm really curious as to what this sour smell could be
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It doesn't matter if he himself cuts the speed or not. He is unable to offer consistent quality and he is aware of it. Yet he still advertises it as 92% pure.
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Selling inconsistent quality is of course also tricky for the whole discussion about quality here on the forum. I mean one part maybe have received very good stuff and are jumping for joy, another part have received much less or bad stuff and are obviously a bit mad about that. This probably also creates a certain tension on the forum. We definitely should be aware as a group of buyers here that the strategy of first offering good samples/batch or similar type actions and after that start selling less quality is a widely used strategy in the drug dealing business.
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So basically buy while the buying's good and when things start heading south, jump ship and never look back? Maintaining consistently good quality can be tough and I'm sure everyone here understands that from batch to batch there are going to be some differences, but there is also a point when the variance becomes unacceptable. I'm with DEA when it comes to ditching anyone who misrepresents their gear regardless of what happened and who's fault it is. I bought expecting x potency of stuff and if that's not met, what does it matter if it was their brother's cousin's shipper's fault. Getting shot for pushing a product that isn't what was advertised is a widely used strategy in the biz too. Not that I'm condoning that behaviour... I may have misunderstood what you're trying to say though cleveland....
Edit, after re-reading the post, I'm fairly certain I misunderstood. Are you talking about the vendor cheerleading from the posters on FUK's gear a while back?
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Well I didn't meant to make a very strong point actually but I guess it also applies to the situation with FireUk. There is just no room for naivete here, we always have to expect that those things might happen with any vendor at any point in time as far as I'm concerned. Quality can differ from batch to batch I get that and it's not something that you can always blame on the seller.
In fact speedie's test results, (at least if they're accurate trust is a pain in the ass here :P) show that the quality of vendors changes also of OldAmsterdam but I'm still happy with it, at least with my 4 orders from him up til now. I personally think Oldie deserves some more appreciation on the forum in spite of the fact he maybe doesn't offer full pgp support the quality of his product is still pretty solid imo, hope it stays that way. Sure you can say the advertising is false or misleading but let's face it in the end I think on Silk Road it's more a matter of, do you like the product and do you want to pay the price for it.
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I'm in the middle of taking a week out from any amp.Been a little excessive over the last week or two and become immune..which leads me to consider all the talk about purity/strength of the speed available at the moment.Perhaps It's starting to get a little difficult to make any objective decisions due to a 'collective tolerance ' in all the regular users.
Before SR started providing good speed I used to get a decent buzz from the average wet Brit speed, but had to take it in greater quantities and definitely not as regularly. Quality has been rising but so has use..My first buy was MrFireUk,which was an improvement on anything previously available. Then CC and BM..raising the bar again. CC's first sample was excellent then BM arrived along with my CC order..(which was still very good but with a lower 'tweak' and clearer high than the sample??)I've been like a hippy in a drug store! Unless somebody has remarkable restraint and leaves at least a week between each it's difficult to make a fare comparrison....But I'll keep trying .
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I'm in the middle of taking a week out from any amp.Been a little excessive over the last week or two and become immune..which leads me to consider all the talk about purity/strength of the speed available at the moment.Perhaps It's starting to get a little difficult to make any objective decisions due to a 'collective tolerance ' in all the regular users.
Before SR started providing good speed I used to get a decent buzz from the average wet Brit speed, but had to take it in greater quantities and definitely not as regularly. Quality has been rising but so has use..My first buy was MrFireUk,which was an improvement on anything previously available. Then CC and BM..raising the bar again. CC's first sample was excellent then BM arrived along with my CC order..(which was still very good but with a lower 'tweak' and clearer high than the sample??)I've been like a hippy in a drug store! Unless somebody has remarkable restraint and leaves at least a week between each it's difficult to make a fare comparrison....But I'll keep trying .
You are the second person to report a cleaner high than what you got from the very first batch.. As said before there is no difference between the batches with regards to the way it was manufactured so it is the exact same uncut quality.. I am anxiously awaiting the test results from raoul duke.. Perhaps there is a small amount of a specific impurity causing this "cleaner" high.. Regardless we are tweaking our purification process.. In other words we are purifying the hell out of the new batch.. The test results will also hopefully help us eliminate any specific impurities that were picked up.. Which brings me to my next question.. How are the test results displayed? Do they only give the amount of amphetamine? Or will they also display which impurities are present? I am not sure how these testing centres work but based on all previous tests it only picked up caffeine and actual amphetamine..
Any comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated..
Best Regards
CC
Edit: It would be great if somebody could point out which methods of testing they use..
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@CapeCrusader, I've contacted a couple of test centers in nl in the past and they said they only test for psychoactive substances, generally the result is completely pure or an amphetamine/caffeine ratio. If a sample contains non psychoactive stuff/sugars like mannitol they won't specify that in the result, so if a random sample is tested 40% amph 30% caffeine you still don't know what the other 30% non psycho-active stuff is.
As mentioned before in nl* they use base equivalent test results, 100mg of completely pure uncut amphetamine sulphate is equal to approx. 73mg of liquid amphetamine base in potency. After performing an acid/base extraction of the freebase 2 amphetamine cations (+) are bound to 1 sulphate anion (−) which produces amphetamine sulphate. This means when comparing liquid amphetamine freebase to amphetamine sulphate there is about 27% sulphate involved in the equation, when a lab test result is based on a base equivalence they generally say about 73% is the maximum purity by mass. As far as I know high-performance liquid chromatography (HPLC) or reversed phase HPLC are generally the most frequently used testing methods.
I assume you already know much of this stuff but just to be clear I've put that basic info in the message. If speedie or other people can give some additional info please do.
Edit: *It just hit me that your sample is actually being tested in another place as nl. (Zurich?)
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@CapeCrusader, I've contacted a couple of test centers in nl in the past and they said they only test for psycho-active substances, generally the result is completely pure or an amphetamine/caffeine ratio. If a sample contains non psycho-active stuff/sugars like mannitol they won't specify that in the result, so if a random sample is tested 40% amph 30 caffeine you still don't know what the other 30% non psycho-active stuff is.
As mentioned before in nl* they use base equivalent test results, 100mg of completely pure uncut amphetamine sulphate is equal to approx. 73mg of liquid amphetamine base in potency. After performing an acid/base extraction of the freebase 2 amphetamine cations (+) are bound to 1 sulphate anion (−) which produces amphetamine sulphate. This means when comparing liquid amphetamine freebase to amphetamine sulphate there is about 27% sulphate involved in the equation, when a lab test result is based on a base equivalence they generally say about 73% is the maximum purity by mass. As far as I know high-performance liquid chromatography (HPLC) or reversed phase HPLC are generally the most frequently used testing methods.
I assume you already know much of this stuff but just to be clear I've put that basic info in the message. If speedie or other people can give some additional info please do.
Edit: *It just hit me that your sample is actually being tested in another place as nl (Zurich?)
Thanks for the reply cleve.. You've basically outlined everything i wished to know.. Raoul duke has taken a sample of my recently sold out batch to a testing centre.. I am not too sure where he is based though.. Let's hope he replies soon..
Edit: As mentioned before the recent batch is actually several small batches.. Not one big batch..
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Raoul duke has taken a sample of my recently sold out batch to a testing centre..
no i haven't mate, i have no interest in speed
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Raoul duke has taken a sample of my recently sold out batch to a testing centre..
no i haven't mate, i have no interest in speed
There is another raoul duke on the forum :)
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I'm in the middle of taking a week out from any amp.Been a little excessive over the last week or two and become immune..which leads me to consider all the talk about purity/strength of the speed available at the moment.Perhaps It's starting to get a little difficult to make any objective decisions due to a 'collective tolerance ' in all the regular users.
Before SR started providing good speed I used to get a decent buzz from the average wet Brit speed, but had to take it in greater quantities and definitely not as regularly. Quality has been rising but so has use..My first buy was MrFireUk,which was an improvement on anything previously available. Then CC and BM..raising the bar again. CC's first sample was excellent then BM arrived along with my CC order..(which was still very good but with a lower 'tweak' and clearer high than the sample??)I've been like a hippy in a drug store! Unless somebody has remarkable restraint and leaves at least a week between each it's difficult to make a fare comparrison....But I'll keep trying .
Well, I currently put in breaks of about 5-9 days between each amph use, so my reviews are pretty solid.
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Has anybody ordered from AfterHour before?
Is the quality as described?
How fast and safe is his packaging?
His prices and the described quality looks pretty good. I think my friend would be very interested if it's good.
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@CapeCrusader, I've contacted a couple of test centers in nl in the past and they said they only test for psychoactive substances, generally the result is completely pure or an amphetamine/caffeine ratio. If a sample contains non psychoactive stuff/sugars like mannitol they won't specify that in the result, so if a random sample is tested 40% amph 30% caffeine you still don't know what the other 30% non psycho-active stuff is.
You're right about everything but your last sentence; 'so if a random sample is tested at 40% amp and 30% caffeine you still dont know what the other 30% non psychoactive stuff is'
Like you said; in the Netherlands they test the base equivalent so the 40% amp base means (100x40:73) = 54.8% amphetamine sulphate. Which leaves us at 100 - (54.8 + 30) = 15.2% non psycho active stuff.
So the sentence should be 'so if a random sample is tested at 40% amp and 30% caffeine you still don't know what the other 15.2% non psychoactive stuff is'
You were right about the rest. 8)
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I'm going to buy a few grams of CapeCrusader's amphetamine soon!
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So, I ordered BM's stuff, and being a complete amphetamine virgin (haven't tried cocaine either, or any other dopaminergic drug for that matter) I started out with 20mg, snorted. Felt weak effects, and then proceeded to redose time after time during a 7-hour period. I've probably taken over 200mg by now, and the desire to redose is insane, I can't believe that it's this addictive! Too addictive for me. Thank God I don't know any speed dealers, I suspect I would be homeless by now.
Well, I've got work in 15 hours. Am I completely screwed?
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Well you're not going to be able to sleep before you have to work work, that's for sure. It might be a smart idea to take a day off, depends on the job.
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So, I ordered BM's stuff, and being a complete amphetamine virgin (haven't tried cocaine either, or any other dopaminergic drug for that matter) I started out with 20mg, snorted. Felt weak effects, and then proceeded to redose time after time during a 7-hour period. I've probably taken over 200mg by now, and the desire to redose is insane, I can't believe that it's this addictive! Too addictive for me. Thank God I don't know any speed dealers, I suspect I would be homeless by now.
Well, I've got work in 15 hours. Am I completely screwed?
Speed's way too cheap to become homeless with just being addicted to it :P
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Why would you become homeless from being addicted to expensive drugs?
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So, I ordered BM's stuff, and being a complete amphetamine virgin (haven't tried cocaine either, or any other dopaminergic drug for that matter) I started out with 20mg, snorted. Felt weak effects, and then proceeded to redose time after time during a 7-hour period. I've probably taken over 200mg by now, and the desire to redose is insane, I can't believe that it's this addictive! Too addictive for me. Thank God I don't know any speed dealers, I suspect I would be homeless by now.
Well, I've got work in 15 hours. Am I completely screwed?
Speed's way too cheap to become homeless with just being addicted to it :P
Yeah, it is cheap, but I imagine tolerance would skyrocket after a couple of weeks of use. Also, because I can't control myself, I imagine I would have to call in sick quite often...
Some observations: 1) Writing stuff, preferably convoluted and intricate observations, is great, 2) music is absolutely essential, 3) making lists is great too, 4) urinating is hard, like on MDMA, 5) food is OK, a little dry and hard to chew, but otherwise not a problem, much like MDMA once again, 6) moving your legs is divine, 7) you're pretty much 'yourself', but a lot more talkative, although the conversations tend to be about quite mundane things, 8 ) did James Joyce use speed?, 9) doing boring things becomes shockingly engaging, 10) smoking cigarettes raises my heart beat tremendously, on the verge of fearing I'll have a heart attack; when sitting down it's completely normal, I think, 11) the half-life is impressive, which is why I'll probably miss work tomorrow, 12) pupils are abnormally large, eyes are sketchy looking, nothing like MDMA though, 13) a little sweating, 14) no nystagmus (eye twitching), 15) bruxism (jaw clenching) is managable, 16) if you don't feel the burn in one or either nostril, you're probably coming down, 17) you're not really, jackass, you're just setting yourself up for a day of lost income.
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So, I ordered BM's stuff, and being a complete amphetamine virgin (haven't tried cocaine either, or any other dopaminergic drug for that matter) I started out with 20mg, snorted. Felt weak effects, and then proceeded to redose time after time during a 7-hour period. I've probably taken over 200mg by now, and the desire to redose is insane, I can't believe that it's this addictive! Too addictive for me. Thank God I don't know any speed dealers, I suspect I would be homeless by now.
Well, I've got work in 15 hours. Am I completely screwed?
Speed's way too cheap to become homeless with just being addicted to it :P
Yeah, it is cheap, but I imagine tolerance would skyrocket after a couple of weeks of use. Also, because I can't control myself, I imagine I would have to call in sick quite often...
Some observations: 1) Writing stuff, preferably convoluted and intricate observations, is great, 2) music is absolutely essential, 3) making lists is great too, 4) urinating is hard, like on MDMA, 5) food is OK, a little dry and hard to chew, but otherwise not a problem, much like MDMA once again, 6) moving your legs is divine, 7) you're pretty much 'yourself', but a lot more talkative, although the conversations tend to be about quite mundane things, 8 ) did James Joyce use speed?, 9) doing boring things becomes shockingly engaging, 10) smoking cigarettes raises my heart beat tremendously, on the verge of fearing I'll have a heart attack; when sitting down it's completely normal, I think, 11) the half-life is impressive, which is why I'll probably miss work tomorrow, 12) pupils are abnormally large, eyes are sketchy looking, nothing like MDMA though, 13) a little sweating, 14) no nystagmus (eye twitching), 15) bruxism (jaw clenching) is managable, 16) if you don't feel the burn in one or either nostril, you're probably coming down, 17) you're not really, jackass, you're just setting yourself up for a day of lost income.
Haha, excellent list. Sounds like you are definitely speeding.
I'm new to speed as well, going to order a gram of BM's stuff. Is this stuff ok to sprinkle in with gatorade and drink? What's the bioavailability this way? I work long days and just need a boost sometimes. Won't have time or privacy to toot this stuff.
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@BlackKnightHalberd
you should be able to sleep 8-10 hours after your last dosage, definitely eat something - like a real meal before you try - even when you are not hungry. Maybe get some beer and watch a boring movie^^, otherwise get some downers..
Daily consumption like you just did, doesn't really work. Similarly to mdma you used up most of your dopamine storage and you wont be able to get as high as today even when you would use the double amount of amph. But daily consumption for studying purposes works well, but requires a lot of self-control.. Same goes for redosing, you cant get more dopamine out of your brain then available^^
Personally I set myself limits like: redosing only every 3 hours, setting the time I want to sleep - therefore no consumption 8 hours before set time. This usually works - not always though ::)
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any clue on when boymaster's dextro sales start? also curious to how long amph stores for, seems adderall doesn't lose any noticeable potency for at least many months when stored properly. anyone care to enlighten me??
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You're right about everything but your last sentence; 'so if a random sample is tested at 40% amp and 30% caffeine you still dont know what the other 30% non psychoactive stuff is'
Like you said; in the Netherlands they test the base equivalent so the 40% amp base means (100x40:73) = 54.8% amphetamine sulphate. Which leaves us at 100 - (54.8 + 30) = 15.2% non psycho active stuff.
Nit picking, but if amphetamine is given in base equivalent, then maybe caffeine is given in some equivalent form as well. (Flyerz Testresult mentioned: CaffeineHCL) That's why giving results out like that is a bad idea, it only creates confusion. If you really need some equivalent you can calculate it yourself. 99.99% of people testing stuff don't need this anyway.
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So, I ordered BM's stuff, and being a complete amphetamine virgin (haven't tried cocaine either, or any other dopaminergic drug for that matter) I started out with 20mg, snorted. Felt weak effects, and then proceeded to redose time after time during a 7-hour period. I've probably taken over 200mg by now, and the desire to redose is insane, I can't believe that it's this addictive! Too addictive for me. Thank God I don't know any speed dealers, I suspect I would be homeless by now.
Well, I've got work in 15 hours. Am I completely screwed?
I'd love to be a newbie with BM's gear, haha has to be awesome! Why not go to work? If it's boring, the speed will make it fun. Tell coworkers you had too much caffeine. Make something up, friends took you out, you're not sure if they mixed something in your drink, something, anything. Non drug people will only notice you are hyperactive. Not that you are on drugs. If you don't do it every day, no one will care.
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4) urinating is hard, like on MDMA, 5) food is OK, a little dry and hard to chew, but otherwise not a problem, much like MDMA once again, 9) doing boring things becomes shockingly engaging, 10) smoking cigarettes raises my heart beat tremendously, on the verge of fearing I'll have a heart attack; when sitting down it's completely normal, I think, 12) pupils are abnormally large, eyes are sketchy looking, nothing like MDMA though, 13) a little sweating
4) try Magnesium
5) only eat stuff that doesn't need extra liquids, like bread. eat fruits, yoghurt, stuff that provides liquids.
9) that's why it's great for most workplaces :)
10) nicotine is a stimulant, adding it to another one will have these results.
12) SUNlight will fix this, it needs to cover certain range of wavelengths to shrink it I guess.
13) take a shower, seriously.
Is this stuff ok to sprinkle in with gatorade and drink? What's the bioavailability this way? I work long days and just need a boost sometimes. Won't have time or privacy to toot this stuff.
Taste it first. It'll work of course, but it will be the worst gatorade you ever had. I'd prepare caps or maybe use some strong citric tasting liquid to cover some of the taste. Bio-availability, I'm guessing 50-60%, can be increased by basifying your stomach.
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Thanks CapeCrusader for your response about the sour smell, should get the results this evening :)
The test method of the lab ist HPLC (High Performance Liquid Chromatographie). I only get information about psychoactive/danger substances. So the amount in % about amphetamine and other things they somethimes find like coffein, methamphetamine, amitriptylin, 4-Methylamphetamin, 4-FA, Levamisole, Phenacetin, Hydroxyzin, Tetracain, Procain, Buflomedil, Diltiazem, Piracetam, Dimethylterephthalate ???
May some of this diluent are more often found in cocaine than in speed tests.
@ the other (first) Raoul_Duke: Sorry for stealing your name...didn't know that I already exist ::)
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Yeah a gum during the day helps with disguising the clenching as well as keeping your mouth moisturized :)
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4) urinating is hard, like on MDMA, 5) food is OK, a little dry and hard to chew, but otherwise not a problem, much like MDMA once again, 9) doing boring things becomes shockingly engaging, 10) smoking cigarettes raises my heart beat tremendously, on the verge of fearing I'll have a heart attack; when sitting down it's completely normal, I think, 12) pupils are abnormally large, eyes are sketchy looking, nothing like MDMA though, 13) a little sweating
4) try Magnesium
5) only eat stuff that doesn't need extra liquids, like bread. eat fruits, yoghurt, stuff that provides liquids.
9) that's why it's great for most workplaces :)
10) nicotine is a stimulant, adding it to another one will have these results.
12) SUNlight will fix this, it needs to cover certain range of wavelengths to shrink it I guess.
13) take a shower, seriously.
Is this stuff ok to sprinkle in with gatorade and drink? What's the bioavailability this way? I work long days and just need a boost sometimes. Won't have time or privacy to toot this stuff.
Taste it first. It'll work of course, but it will be the worst gatorade you ever had. I'd prepare caps or maybe use some strong citric tasting liquid to cover some of the taste. Bio-availability, I'm guessing 50-60%, can be increased by basifying your stomach.
14) Get some Gum or mints...Speed Breath is not a pleasant side effect and helps stop gurning (not a good look)
15) Only have sex after 13&14 :-) Great coming up, not so good on the way down (for men that is)
16) Don't forget to drink water...
And always be aware you might be talking complete bollocks.........
Speed....you either love it or you hate it...
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14) Get some Gum or mints...Speed Breath is not a pleasant side effect and helps stop gurning (not a good look)
I highly recommend a medical mouthwash. Not the stuff you can pickup at every supermarket, the stuff your dentist uses. From a pharmacy. And brush your teeth. You'll be forgetting it, set a reminder and force yourself if needed.
16) Don't forget to drink water...
You might want to throw in a effervescent (fizzy) tablet containing Vitamins and Minerals. Your body will need those in much higher amounts than usual, combining liquids with Vitamins works well for me and is one thing less to worry about.
Speed....you either love it or you hate it...
For most people it's both =)
Thanks CapeCrusader for your response about the sour smell, should get the results this evening :)
The test method of the lab ist HPLC (High Performance Liquid Chromatographie). I only get information about psychoactive/danger substances. So the amount in % about amphetamine and other things they somethimes find like coffein, methamphetamine, amitriptylin, 4-Methylamphetamin, 4-FA, Levamisole, Phenacetin, Hydroxyzin, Tetracain, Procain, Buflomedil, Diltiazem, Piracetam, Dimethylterephthalate ???
today already? very nice :)
An HPLC test produces a chromatogram (example: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Chromatogramm.png ), which could help, as a trained eye could identify much more (traces of) ingredients that they usually don't mention. Maybe they give it out when asked for it, I never tried, but they do have it. Especially saferparty.ch, as they continuously create reports of what Speed and Coke is usually cut with. I only have access to on-site testing were time can be an important issue as well, so they might take some shortcuts to speed up analysis.
I'm really looking forward to the results. Are they handed out to you in person? If they are (or even if not) and you get a result like "xy% Amphetamine HCL" and xy is not 100 (almost certain), then you might want to ask what the rest is exactly. And if this means someone cut it or not. That would force them to explain impurities :).
Thanks for doing this, it's really appreciated. +1 if I can already (only every 3 days).
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Ok call me weird but i just had to make sure. Just bombed (about1/4 gm) of MrFireUK's amp...found in a pocket from his second batch (about 4 wks ago) Nicely surprised !! .Coming up,feeling good and .getting a strong, tweaky body rush..Curious after all the recent negative feedback...? Perhaps I'm a lightweight....=:-)
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Maybe you got lucky and have the real deal. Mine is easily identifiable when looking at it, it's very obvious that it's a mix of two powder-ish substances. If it's just Placebo, then that's awesome, wish it would still work for me. But given your history on here I kinda doubt it hehe 8)
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It's the night of day 8 here, so tomorrow will be the ninth day in transit and I have a feeling that I may have something waiting in the post box. So far everything else has been proper quick with this string of orders. CW had it in transit the same day and here in 6 business / working days. Procain had his to me in 4 days total and NZFImports had it so quick, the site wouldn't allow me to finalise yet
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Wow I just snorted a bit of CC's phet and DAMN that stuff burns... :o I had not snorted it yet since it has this really weird smell 'sourish' as I would describe it., But holy crap, maybe there's something wrong with the pH value of the batch?
I don't dare to give this stuff to my friends :P
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today already? very nice :)
An HPLC test produces a chromatogram (example: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Chromatogramm.png ), which could help, as a trained eye could identify much more (traces of) ingredients that they usually don't mention. Maybe they give it out when asked for it, I never tried, but they do have it. Especially saferparty.ch, as they continuously create reports of what Speed and Coke is usually cut with. I only have access to on-site testing were time can be an important issue as well, so they might take some shortcuts to speed up analysis.
I'm really looking forward to the results. Are they handed out to you in person? If they are (or even if not) and you get a result like "xy% Amphetamine HCL" and xy is not 100 (almost certain), then you might want to ask what the rest is exactly. And if this means someone cut it or not. That would force them to explain impurities :).
Thanks for doing this, it's really appreciated. +1 if I can already (only every 3 days).
Thanks müslix for +1...my first I think ;D
They will send me an e-mail with the results. I don't think that they will hand out the chromatogram, but I will look what I can do when I get the result. The problem maybe is that I don't get it directly from people who work in the lab...it's more like an ocounseling center where you can go and the send it to the lab. Then they get the results and send it to me...so I have no direct contact to the test lab.
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They will send me an e-mail with the results. I don't think that they will hand out the chromatogram, but I will look what I can do when I get the result. The problem maybe is that I don't get it directly from people who work in the lab...it's more like an ocounseling center where you can go and the send it to the lab. Then they get the results and send it to me...so I have no direct contact to the test lab.
Yea, that's what I was thinking as well. And it's the same for me, you can go to the drug checking office daily, but they only do the testing directly at parties and only then there'll be chemists present. I would probably have a shitload of questions ;D So they probably won't have time for me. The counseling dudes are usually nice and helpful social workers, with a good understanding about party drugs, but don't necessarily know much about the chemistry. They also might have an agreement with the police to not aid in manufacture, if so they won't give out chromatograms for sure ;)
I couldn't even find one single commercial testlab that would do that. I realize it could be due to legal issues. But if you have an unknown substance, you should be able to mail it for identification purposes. That should be some sort of a grey zone legally. But then again I only know the very basics of how such a test works, maybe they need some a priori info regarding the sample for some configuration, idk.
really weird smell 'sourish' as I would describe it., But holy crap, maybe there's something wrong with the pH value of the batch?
steamer used "sour" for smell also. I know sour gummy bears, they taste sour like a lemon. But they don't smell sour?! Please elaborate..
pH would be interesting, I wanted to do that with BM and CC since one guy said CC's dissolves easier in water, just a hunch though. You can get pH-strips in any pharmacy, just put them in the water and check the color.
Should be the same as with the water-douche for your nose, you add rock salt to tap water until the pH-Value is right, then you can use it to wash your nose. Won't hurt a bit.
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Wow I just snorted a bit of CC's phet and DAMN that stuff burns... :o I had not snorted it yet since it has this really weird smell 'sourish' as I would describe it., But holy crap, maybe there's something wrong with the pH value of the batch?
I don't dare to give this stuff to my friends :P
I know how you feel.Had to give snorting up a couple of weeks ago. I think i gave my nose and throat chemical burns...not nice...!
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Thanks müslix for +1...my first I think ;D
I already gave you one in the past 72hrs, but you'll get another one for the new results :) since I now received my 9th downboat (started with posting honest feedback in FUKs thread lol), it's free upboat time! but I probably upboated everyone already haha. Wonder who could be so obsessed?!?
I know how you feel.Had to give snorting up a couple of weeks ago. I think i gave my nose and throat chemical burns...not nice...!
I know that as well, couldn't use my nose for two weeks after 5g of BM's last batch, so I went straight to parachuting ;)
I hear plugging is best for bio-availability, it's just not my kinda deal. Anyone tried? ;D ;D
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I could get a pH-kit, think I'ma try and get a hold of one this weekend.
Also a few months back there was this fiery debate over whether plugging was gay or not ::)
Bioavailability may be higher, but I'm not at all into stuffing things up my arse, so it's really a no go area for me :P
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Hey guys
Firstly no there in nothing wrong with the PH.. We keep the PH as close to neutral as possible(6.5-7). As mentioned before we have been manufacturing LOTS of small batches so we could not calibrate the PH meter for every little batch so the PH could be SLIGHTLY lower or higher but not by much.. From here on we will be manufacturing much much bigger batches at a time so the PH of every batch will be extremely accurate..
With regards to plugging.. ::)
The Grand Wizard uses this method of administration.. He posted a review on the forum on my speed and used this method.. He only used 20mg and he was flying.. Somebody should PM him.. He seems to be an expert on the matter..
Does anybody know what time we can expect the test results from raoul to be posted on the forum?
Cheers
CC
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You're right about everything but your last sentence; 'so if a random sample is tested at 40% amp and 30% caffeine you still dont know what the other 30% non psychoactive stuff is'
Like you said; in the Netherlands they test the base equivalent so the 40% amp base means (100x40:73) = 54.8% amphetamine sulphate. Which leaves us at 100 - (54.8 + 30) = 15.2% non psycho active stuff. So the sentence should be 'so if a random sample is tested at 40% amp and 30% caffeine you still don't know what the other 15.2% non psychoactive stuff is'
You were right about the rest. 8) I'm going to buy a few grams of CapeCrusader's amphetamine soon!
Oh yeah you're right too, well I guess as an example it's still clear but thanks for pointing that out.
really weird smell 'sourish' as I would describe it., But holy crap, maybe there's something wrong with the pH value of the batch?
steamer used "sour" for smell also. I know sour gummy bears, they taste sour like a lemon. But they don't smell sour?! Please elaborate..
pH would be interesting, I wanted to do that with BM and CC since one guy said CC's dissolves easier in water, just a hunch though. You can get pH-strips in any pharmacy, just put them in the water and check the color.
Maybe it's cut with a candy stick :) (yes I know I'm very funny) It was also the first speed for me with such a distinctive sour-like taste especially when the stuff runs in your mouth and throat.
edit: typo
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Hey guys
Firstly no there in nothing wrong with the PH.. We keep the PH as close to neutral as possible(6.5-7). As mentioned before we have been manufacturing LOTS of small batches so we could not calibrate the PH meter for every little batch so the PH could be SLIGHTLY lower or higher but not by much.. From here on we will be manufacturing much much bigger batches at a time so the PH of every batch will be extremely accurate..
With regards to plugging.. ::)
The Grand Wizard uses this method of administration.. He posted a review on the forum on my speed and used this method.. He only used 20mg and he was flying.. Somebody should PM him.. He seems to be an expert on the matter..
Does anybody know what time we can expect the test results from raoul to be posted on the forum?
Cheers
CC
Funny you should mention that. I just received my package from Cape Crusader about an hour ago. I just plugged approximately 20mg and snorted about 20mg. At first I thought this batch was weaker than my prior order, but oh was I wrong. This amphetamine definitely is "cleaner" than the last batch: there's not as much body load but the mental stimulation and alertness is definitely there. Right now I'm feeling like Motorhead could do the soundtrack to my life. This is excellent, excellent stuff: my only regret is that I didn't order more.
WRT plugging: rectal insertion gives you about the same bioavailability and come-up time as intramuscular injection without the risk of abscesses and other complications. It's far safer than IV or IM -- your colon is designed to filter out waste, whereas your circulatory and lymphatic systems really aren't. And it's definitely something to consider instead of snorting if you have sinus or adenoid issues. Honestly, though, I'd say this amphetamine is best used orally: I like starting my day with 30-40mg in my coffee and a pick me up around noontime. Plugging gives you a nice instant rush but oral use gives a longer duration and a smoother high.
The "plugging is gay" thing is juvenile, IMO. If you don't like putting things in your ass don't plug them: if you don't like putting things up your nose don't snort them. But if you can't tell the difference between a penis and a syringe I feel sorry for your girlfriend. ;)
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Right now I'm feeling like Motorhead could do the soundtrack to my life.
lol... Now I have "ace of spades" stuck in my head! I know what you mean though, I have had similar feelings off of oral adderol.
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OT: BM's stuff is just so much fun.. take 2 weeks off of this stuff and do a small line..
just awesome!
sorry for the commercial
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@Thegrandwizard: Thanks for that.. Your posts always seem to crack me up.. ;D
@Clevelandsteamer: With regards to the taste.. Would you describe it as sour or rather bitter? Because bitter i can understand..
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Maybe it's cut with a candy stick :) (yes I know I'm very funny) It was also the first speed for me with such a distinctive sour-like taste especially when the stuff runs in your mount and throat.
I think we interpret sour different. It's definitely really unpleasant and different than most other stuff, I agree on that. But sour wouldn't be my first choice. or my second. but it's indeed hard to define and I don't want to test it again ;)
WRT plugging: rectal insertion gives you about the same bioavailability and come-up time as intramuscular injection without the risk of abscesses and other complications. It's far safer than IV or IM -- your colon is designed to filter out waste, whereas your circulatory and lymphatic systems really aren't. And it's definitely something to consider instead of snorting if you have sinus or adenoid issues. Honestly, though, I'd say this amphetamine is best used orally: I like starting my day with 30-40mg in my coffee and a pick me up around noontime. Plugging gives you a nice instant rush but oral use gives a longer duration and a smoother high.
I just read it on bluelight, were one guy was like "if you're concerned about bio-availability, take half a cap(sule) and plug it!", then I had to google "plugging it" :)
I'm more curios than convinced, had no idea that this ROA would work so well. Does it really hit as fast as snorting it? Would you plug the amount you would use for a line or for a parachute? I bomb much more than I'd snort. And does a capsule really dissolve?!
I'm kinda surprised that this is actually done a lot(?) with speed, seems to work rather well and I still haven't heard or read much about it. I'd prefer that over IV'ing.
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@CapeCrusader Do you have any idea when bigger listings will be up? And maybe you should make a personal review/feedback thread because, if I'm not mistaken, you don't have one yet :D
edit: thanks for testing Raoul Duke, it's a good result.
I wonder what the 'sour' smell is. Does it smell a little bit like apples?
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So I get the results of CC's amp with the sour smell. I'm a bit disappointed, because they couldn't tell me why it has this sour smell in the nose.
The result is 74.8 % amphetamine, and they didn't tell me any other substance. So the rest has to be an non psychoactive substance.
And here some general information from the test lab if somebody interested:
- The average of tested amphetamine at this labratory ist 22.7%
- The weakest speed had 0.2 % amphetamine, the best 95.7 %
Here you can find the result i get:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=467875f31b4b6f544b56d4017d8565ff.jpg
Have a nice weekend!
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Utterly utterly dissapointed with this result.. I am not sure if it was just this particular batch with the sour smell but i won't dispute the result.. I can say that it wasn't cut but instead has alot of impurities that we failed to illuminate.. Everybody who ordered from this second batch will have the appropriate bonus added to their next order to make up for this lower than expected puirty.. My apologies to everybody but i didn't come here to sell this mediocre product.. If the next batch is tested to have this low purity again i will stop vending here..
CC
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WRT plugging: rectal insertion gives you about the same bioavailability and come-up time as intramuscular injection without the risk of abscesses and other complications. It's far safer than IV or IM -- your colon is designed to filter out waste, whereas your circulatory and lymphatic systems really aren't. And it's definitely something to consider instead of snorting if you have sinus or adenoid issues. Honestly, though, I'd say this amphetamine is best used orally: I like starting my day with 30-40mg in my coffee and a pick me up around noontime. Plugging gives you a nice instant rush but oral use gives a longer duration and a smoother high.
I just read it on bluelight, were one guy was like "if you're concerned about bio-availability, take half a cap(sule) and plug it!", then I had to google "plugging it" :)
I'm more curios than convinced, had no idea that this ROA would work so well. Does it really hit as fast as snorting it? Would you plug the amount you would use for a line or for a parachute? I bomb much more than I'd snort. And does a capsule really dissolve?!
I'm kinda surprised that this is actually done a lot(?) with speed, seems to work rather well and I still haven't heard or read much about it. I'd prefer that over IV'ing.
It hits about as fast as snorting and a little bit harder, IME: the doses I would use for plugging are usually the same or slightly smaller as snorting doses. I have never tried using a capsule: I just dissolve the amp in a small quantity of water and use an oral syringe to deliver the goods. I think a capsule would complicate matters and could even cause you some problems: I'm thinking of a sizeable quantity of amphetamine powder sitting on a mucous membrane as the capsule dissolves and seeing abdominal cramping in someone's future.
If you're using CC's latest batch, be conservative no matter how you do it. I got back from a walk and was feeling great -- no tachycardia, speed sweats, etc. So I got the bright idea to plug 40mg to see if that would send me into orbit. I definitely got higher than giraffe balls, don't get me wrong. But I also spent 15 minutes or so hugging a toilet and dry-heaving whilst sweating like a pig. This is a very potent batch. Because it doesn't give you a lot of the bodily side effects, it's easy to think you need a little bit more -- only to find that things add up.
(When I see people talking about bombing 250mg of speed and saying "I guess it was good, because I got pretty high" I am shaking my head. If I took 250mg of this stuff orally I might well wind up in the hospital: I almost certainly would be dealing with a nice juicy case of amp psychosis for a few days and a couple days more without sleep).
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@CapeCrusader Do you have any idea when bigger listings will be up? And maybe you should make a personal review/feedback thread because, if I'm not mistaken, you don't have one yet :D
edit: thanks for testing Raoul Duke, it's a good result.
I wonder what the 'sour' smell is. Does it smell a little bit like apples?
I will probably only have the new and bigger listing up next month some time.. 74.8% is just poor to be quite blunt.. The new batch will only be released when i am sure that the purity is around the 95%+ mark..
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Utterly utterly dissapointed with this result.. I am not sure if it was just this particular batch with the sour smell but i won't dispute the result.. I can say that it wasn't cut but instead has alot of impurities that we failed to illuminate.. Everybody who ordered from this second batch will have the appropriate bonus added to their next order to make up for this lower than expected puirty.. My apologies to everybody but i didn't come here to sell this mediocre product.. If the next batch is tested to have this low purity again i will stop vending here..
CC
I can understand that you're a little disappointed but quitting!? NO WAY don't do that, many people like your 75% amphetamine and your price is great! You're acting like 75% amphetamine is bad, but it is not, a consistent 75%+ amphetamine supply is what we need on SR! :)
And did you know that if you make bigger batches, the higher the yield and purity gets.
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Appreciate your rigor CC.
I've got a package due any day now, can't wait. Fingers crossed it won't smell funky but I'm happy to see you're focused on quality either way.
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Thanks!
That equals 80.28 % or 802.8mg/g Amphetamine Sulphate.
(Or for the Dutch: 59% of possible 72% Amphetamine Base equivalent)
For future reference (that's purity calculation only):
%HCL x 0.78756 = %AmphBase (=> HCL can 'bind' up to 78,75% freebase)
%SO4 x 0.73381 = %AmphBase (=>SO4 can 'bind' up to 73,38% freebase)
I have it in full on paper if anyone's interested, but it's really not that hard :) chemists forgive the shitty syntax/phrasing.
So I get the results of CC's amp with the sour smell. I'm a bit disappointed, because they couldn't tell me why it has this sour smell in the nose.
The result is 74.8 % amphetamine, and they didn't tell me any other substance. So the rest has to be an non psychoactive substance.
And here some general information from the test lab if somebody interested:
- The average of tested amphetamine at this labratory ist 22.7%
- The weakest speed had 0.2 % amphetamine, the best 95.7 %
Here you can find the result i get:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=467875f31b4b6f544b56d4017d8565ff.jpg
Have a nice weekend!
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Ooh, actually CCs was waiting for me in the mailbox. Haven't tried the stuff yet, and I never put amphetamine up my nose, but just sniffing the product didn't give me a fright or anything, mild if anything at all, not "sour". I've had paste from SR with much stronger odors escaping from the packaging. This is totally fine. I do hope none of the impurities are dangerous but this looks to be good stuff.
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Ooh, actually CCs was waiting for me in the mailbox. Haven't tried the stuff yet, and I never put amphetamine up my nose, but just sniffing the product didn't give me a fright or anything, mild if anything at all. I've had paste from SR with much stronger odors escaping from the packaging. This is totally fine. I do hope none of the impurities are dangerous but this looks to be good stuff.
The impurities won't be dangerous.. I am sure the testing centre would have picked it up if it were and nobody has had any ill effects from my speed so you should be good..
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That makes sense. Hope you get whatever issues sorted and list more, and larger quantities. Pains my heart to do the math on the number of purchases I see and realize such a legit vendor isn't making the big bucks sticking your neck out like that should deserve.
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That makes sense. Hope you get whatever issues sorted and list more, and larger quantities. Pains my heart to do the math on the number of purchases I see and realize such a legit vendor isn't making the big bucks sticking your neck out like that should deserve.
Well i was still relatively new on here when i released the second batch so i can understand not receiving as much orders.. And FUK also hurt my sales a bit with his scam but with that cleared up now and alot of more good reviews added to my page i should do much better when releasing the 3rd batch.. Oh and be careful with this stuff.. It wasn't tested at the desired purity i wanted but that doesn't mean that its not potent.. 80% is still very high purity so dont overdo it..
Be safe
CC
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I think we interpret sour different. It's definitely really unpleasant and different than most other stuff, I agree on that. But sour wouldn't be my first choice. or my second. but it's indeed hard to define and I don't want to test it again ;)
@Clevelandsteamer: With regards to the taste.. Would you describe it as sour or rather bitter? Because bitter i can understand..
I've ordered 2g of the first batch about 1 month ago. In the feedback I've described it as a somewhat bitter sour-like taste. I wrote sour-like in my previous message but it wasn't apple/lemon sour, much more like bitter with a slightly sour aftertaste as far as I can recall. @CC, most vendors sell 0-40% speed here so 75% is still really very good mate and the other part is non psychoactive, that's probably also a pretty good explanation for the cleaner effect.
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I parachuted 35mg, will see what happens. I'm keeping in mind I'm probably used to 15-25%, though haven't had anything in my system for a month. 75% is laudable and AWESOME on its own right. If you think you can do better in the future, holy moly!
Do you have any kind of knowledge/suspicions on the levo/d-amph ratios?
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I parachuted 35mg, will see what happens. I'm keeping in mind I'm probably used to 15-25%, though haven't had anything in my system for a month. 75% is laudable and AWESOME on its own right. If you think you can do better in the future, holy moly!
Do you have any kind of knowledge/suspicions on the levo/d-amph ratios?
Just to clear something up.. The test centre in Zurich converts their results to the HCL equivalent.. So the results state that it is 75% HCL which actually means that my current batch is 80% pure amphetamine sulphate as muslix pointed out.. And no i cant say what the ratio of the enantiomers are..
Best regards
CC
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@CC, just wondering do you also have a possibility to send it with priority mail or is about 9 days the fastest delivery time to west-europe and nl?
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@CC, just wondering do you also have a possibility to send it with priority mail or is about 9 days the fastest delivery time to west-europe and nl?
I will be looking into a priority shipping option for the 3rd batch.. There is one but its very expensive(about US$30) that i am aware of.. When ordering 10 grams some customers might opt for this but i don't think many will.. I will see what else is available though..
Thanks
CC
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Just an update, this is very good stuff. Subjectively, easily 3x-4x as pure as "der speed doktors" best batches (then they got bad, then he disappeared) after drying from quite a while back. Sorry I have nothing more recent to compare to. I use this stuff sparingly, I only just now finished off some 6mo old speed. Hope I can order a large amount in the future for studying as needed. Thanks CC! What a deal.
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So, I ordered BM's stuff, and being a complete amphetamine virgin (haven't tried cocaine either, or any other dopaminergic drug for that matter) I started out with 20mg, snorted. Felt weak effects, and then proceeded to redose time after time during a 7-hour period. I've probably taken over 200mg by now, and the desire to redose is insane, I can't believe that it's this addictive! Too addictive for me. Thank God I don't know any speed dealers, I suspect I would be homeless by now.
Well, I've got work in 15 hours. Am I completely screwed?
So what happened? I went to bed and thought "I can do this!" Turns out, I couldn't. Parts of my body began twitching, like my left eyelid and pinky, in unison with my breaths. Very weird. My breathing wouldn't function automatically; if it did, it would stop on the exhale. What is that all about? My jaw is very tense and seems to have some kind of relationship with my breathing. Deep breaths meant a huge increase in heart rate, and shallow breaths are unbearable. What I realized laying there in my bed for 5 hours, practically motionless and employing all my knowledge to conquer the beast is that the real magic of this substance lies in its psychedelic effects, which are presented inside the mind of the user in sensory deprivation circumstances, like a dark and quiet room. It was truly astounding, easily on par with LSD, DMT and psilocybin closed-eye visuals; furthermore, they were generated from me, from what I touch and what I interact with, and they are intricate associations flung across an enormous mental map. Everyone has probably experienced hypnagogia (the state between wakefulness and sleep), but this is something altogether different. Is it you peeking into the processing of data in your own brain? Does it have a name, colloquial or otherwise (I'm really interested actually)?
Well, I couldn't stand more of it so I consumed 12mg of bromazepam, which after 5 minutes completely and utterly relaxed my whole body and every muscle and plunged me into a comfortable semi-sleep which lasted a little over 2 hours. After work I decided to try the speed again, 150mg in about 10 minutes. Effects were noticeably weaker and lasted a shorter amount of time. Probably not a good idea to take amphetamine two days in a row if you're after euphoria, am I right?
On another note, what dose would you recommend for the i.v. route with BM's stuff? 30mg? 40mg? How long does the high last?
Oh yeah, because of my slight sleep deprivation my curtains are waving back and forth and I see shadows or silhouettes of people in my peripheral vision. How can some amphetamine users really stay up for much longer than that? Must be a very freaky world to live in.
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It was truly astounding, easily on par with LSD, DMT and psilocybin closed-eye visuals; furthermore, they were generated from me, from what I touch and what I interact with, and they are intricate associations flung across an enormous mental map. Everyone has probably experienced hypnagogia (the state between wakefulness and sleep), but this is something altogether different. Is it you peeking into the processing of data in your own brain? Does it have a name, colloquial or otherwise (I'm really interested actually)?
Danger, Will Robinson! You were experiencing classic dopamine/stimulant psychosis. Took too much, stayed up too long, and weren't taking care of yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulant_psychosis
When you experience this stuff, you need to take a break. Really. Eat some food and sleep. Use benzos if you have to. Now isn't the time to be figuring out how to IV the shit. You're gonna give yourself fucking schizophrenia.
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Don't always be so quick to diagnose a Psychosis. His brain was/is over-stimulated. First signs of too much Amphetamine are hallucinations, auditory and visually. But those are not sufficient to diagnose a psychosis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis#Signs_and_symptoms
I've seen acute cases of Psychosis (might have been drug induced, no idea) and he wouldn't write like that. A Psychosis is more than just Hallucinations.
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It was truly astounding, easily on par with LSD, DMT and psilocybin closed-eye visuals; furthermore, they were generated from me, from what I touch and what I interact with, and they are intricate associations flung across an enormous mental map. Everyone has probably experienced hypnagogia (the state between wakefulness and sleep), but this is something altogether different. Is it you peeking into the processing of data in your own brain? Does it have a name, colloquial or otherwise (I'm really interested actually)?
Danger, Will Robinson! You were experiencing classic dopamine/stimulant psychosis. Took too much, stayed up too long, and weren't taking care of yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulant_psychosis
When you experience this stuff, you need to take a break. Really. Eat some food and sleep. Use benzos if you have to. Now isn't the time to be figuring out how to IV the shit. You're gonna give yourself fucking schizophrenia.
Well said and brought it to the point.
BlackKnightHalberd, limit yourself. You seem to be about to overdo it ;)
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Everyone who says that 75-80% is still awesome: yes, it is, but he sells pure amphetamine and I'd like to have the pure stuff and not 75-80% purity.
Thank you CC.
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Everyone who says that 75-80% is still awesome: yes, it is, but he sells pure amphetamine and I'd like to have the pure stuff and not 75-80% purity.
Thank you CC.
Yes you are correct.. 80% isn't satisfactory when i am advertising pure speed.. When asked what i meant by pure i stated that it is completely unadulterated.. It is unadulterated.. i kept my word with regards to that.. After sending out my very first samples i got such rave reviews which lead me to believe that my current purification techniques were sufficient.. It is now clear that it is not.. With the 3rd batch we will tweak our purification process to afford the desired higher purity.. And you along with everybody else will receive the appropriate bonus with your next order to make up for the lower than expected purity.. Even with this 80% pure batch i still have the best value for money on here.. Once again i apologize for this error.. I will make right where wrong was done..
Best regards
CC
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Thank you CC. You're just perfect ;)
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It was truly astounding, easily on par with LSD, DMT and psilocybin closed-eye visuals; furthermore, they were generated from me, from what I touch and what I interact with, and they are intricate associations flung across an enormous mental map. Everyone has probably experienced hypnagogia (the state between wakefulness and sleep), but this is something altogether different. Is it you peeking into the processing of data in your own brain? Does it have a name, colloquial or otherwise (I'm really interested actually)?
Danger, Will Robinson! You were experiencing classic dopamine/stimulant psychosis. Took too much, stayed up too long, and weren't taking care of yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulant_psychosis
When you experience this stuff, you need to take a break. Really. Eat some food and sleep. Use benzos if you have to. Now isn't the time to be figuring out how to IV the shit. You're gonna give yourself fucking schizophrenia.
I probably took too much for a first timer yes, but I was in bed at 4am, and tried to fall asleep even though I was still very stimulated. Actually, I thought it was known that this happens when someone on amphetamines tries to go to sleep and lies perfectly still, so that instead of the black and white flashes of mundane images most people experience before going to sleep (hypnagogia) someone on amphetamine will be presented with this high-speed, morphing, multi-colored, multi-textured, comical, cartooney, transforming, highly intricate and associative phantasmagoria of images. I thought it was utterly fascinating but too complex a scene to allow one to drift into sleep. But maybe that was really a psychotic episode. I prefer my hypothesis. :D
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Well, I couldn't stand more of it so I consumed 12mg of bromazepam, which after 5 minutes completely and utterly relaxed my whole body and every muscle and plunged me into a comfortable semi-sleep which lasted a little over 2 hours. After work I decided to try the speed again, 150mg in about 10 minutes. Effects were noticeably weaker and lasted a shorter amount of time. Probably not a good idea to take amphetamine two days in a row if you're after euphoria, am I right?
I disagree again with everyone who thinks you are psychotic :) You just had too much speed. The problem is you took a decent dose of benzos. They counteract the speed and you feel 'sober', but in your brain both substances are still at work. When you were trying again, you were still on benzos. So you'd need to actually counteract the benzos and then some to get your euphoria. This is a very dangerous upper/downer cycle. Will almost inevitably result in addiction (to benzos). So be careful with that. Unless you experience this over-stimulation symptoms, try to stay away from benzos. If I do them, then on the last day, to ease out the come down. In your case it was probably a good choice, but don't overdo it. People often fall in to this trap, the way out ain't easy.
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I thought it was known that this happens when someone on amphetamines tries to go to sleep and lies perfectly still, so that instead of the black and white flashes of mundane images most people experience before going to sleep (hypnagogia) someone on amphetamine will be presented with this high-speed, morphing, multi-colored, multi-textured, comical, cartooney, transforming, highly intricate and associative phantasmagoria of images.
Once you lay down, you can't physically act it out anymore so the focus goes to mental stimulation. You'll see whatever your brain can make up. I rarely do that anymore, but I did it in the beginning just like you. The hallucinations are pretty unique for Amphetamines, MDMA can generate something pretty similar. For me it often manifests by visualizing my interpretation of what I see. For example, my brain seems to complete incomplete shapes and I will see it. The shape might be incomplete because it physically really misses a part, but more often when it's dark ant I can't recognize an object, I can see just what fits best. Might not even be close to the real object.
Fun stuff to play with :) Especially on MDMA with someone else, then you can describe what you are seeing, and the other person will see it as well. Works on LSD too, but is more fun on Amphetamines. If you had too much, you might as well have fun with it ;)
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Ooh, actually CCs was waiting for me in the mailbox. Haven't tried the stuff yet, and I never put amphetamine up my nose, but just sniffing the product didn't give me a fright or anything, mild if anything at all. I've had paste from SR with much stronger odors escaping from the packaging. This is totally fine. I do hope none of the impurities are dangerous but this looks to be good stuff.
The impurities won't be dangerous.. I am sure the testing centre would have picked it up if it were and nobody has had any ill effects from my speed so you should be good..
Yes, the impurities won't be dangerous. If there would be any dangerous substances at CC's Speed, the test lab would find it and tell me.
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Utterly utterly dissapointed with this result.. I am not sure if it was just this particular batch with the sour smell but i won't dispute the result.. I can say that it wasn't cut but instead has alot of impurities that we failed to illuminate.. Everybody who ordered from this second batch will have the appropriate bonus added to their next order to make up for this lower than expected puirty.. My apologies to everybody but i didn't come here to sell this mediocre product.. If the next batch is tested to have this low purity again i will stop vending here..
CC
You kidding buddy? Theres huge support for you here, and .75 grams of 100% pure amph for 22 dollars is a GREAT deal. If you stopped selling id be sad, and i havent even got to try your product yet.
@CC, just wondering do you also have a possibility to send it with priority mail or is about 9 days the fastest delivery time to west-europe and nl?
I will be looking into a priority shipping option for the 3rd batch.. There is one but its very expensive(about US$30) that i am aware of.. When ordering 10 grams some customers might opt for this but i don't think many will.. I will see what else is available though..
Thanks
CC
If your product is good, I plan on buying alot, and i would be very interested in a priority option.
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After a bit of a break I received a tasty big bag of CC speed. ;D
A friend who is used to "amazing German amphetamine" was about to snort a good 150-200mg in one line - managed to stop him just in time.... So gave him around 60mg and another 50mg bomb for later and then he left to go do stuff. Next time I saw him he was grinning ear to ear and sweating quite profusely..... Noob ;D He came round again after midnight looking for some valium ::)
The speed is really nice. It does hurt your nose a bit but less than the last batch I had from BM and nothing like as bad as meth. I also noticed it doesn't dissolve so easily in water, which I thought as a salt it should do? It takes quite a bit of stirring, though maybe that's due to the lumpy texture.
I'm pretty sure I won't order speed from anyone else now. No point even bothering with meth when I can get 75%+ amph for so cheap....
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This is my 2 cent for you from an old Amphetamine User (responsible since 16 years ;) of my experience on SR with different vendors (I wrote review only for those still around today).
Please be aware, from some vendors I've ordered stuff and I was not satisfied, so I didn't place any other order. that does not means now they got a new batch with good stuff.
Jürgen (DE): He had the Medical Grade Amph. Sulphate, that was a really nice thing. Dirty expensive but was really impressive. Now he offers the "polish speed". A really good speed imo, clean cut, long leasting, and good stable rush. Only drawback is you have to dry the paste and you will loose 1/3 - 1/2 of weight, still price/g is really good for this. Package amazing, fast delivery.
FireUK: Quality comparable to Jürgen. Already dried. Some users reported FireUk got always different batch, but I was twice happy with him. Package is good, safe enough for EU for sure.
Boymaster: it's a really good amphetamine, but cut with something odd (taste is horrible), and physical rush is very high (much coffeine?). Package must be improved, though.
AspirantCooper: also a good amphetamine, but overprice. Package need also improvement.
dmtdoodeelsd: OK, but not hi-score
aakoven: I was not happy, but I ordered long time a go. Package was extremely unsecure
I would like still to try CapeCrusuader stuff when available, since many are saying good thing about him.
What about other DE vendor currently selling? Any feedback? (jalapeno, Bungee54, MDMAte)
Stay safe ;)
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Following up on my Cape Crusader review: most of last night was spent in that uneasy amp-charged state between sleep and waking. This stuff has some serious hangtime. On a positive note I had some impressively weird dreams, including one where I was riding around South Africa desert with CC in a Land Rover, carrying a power siphon and stealing petrol from gas stations we passed along the way. (Don't ask me, folks: I don't understand it either).
This morning started slowly, as you might guess. But 25mg of CC's amp in my coffee and I'm wide awake and ready to greet the new day with a smile on my face and a song in my heart. This batch is definitely stronger than my first order: I could easily get away with a 10-15mg dose and an equal bump around noon. For the price, this stuff is one of the best deals: a $22 gram could easily take me through a month of heightened alertness and energy.
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This is my 2 cent for you from an old Amphetamine User (responsible since 16 years ;) of my experience on SR with different vendors (I wrote review only for those still around today).
Please be aware, from some vendors I've ordered stuff and I was not satisfied, so I didn't place any other order. that does not means now they got a new batch with good stuff.
can you maybe add dates (month/year) to the reviews, otherwise no one will be able to interpret them.
AspirinCooper wasn't Amphetamine at all, unless you ordered from his very first batch, which could possibly have been real, although I doubt it.
Jürgen was selling Phosphate, wasn't he? Should change the Amph slightly, due to changes in solubility and bio-availability. Could be fun :)
Agree on Boymaster, really horrible ... taste. I still think it's cut with smack and maybe a FireUK Antagonist. Labtest will show!
edit: no idea if the AmphPO4 is a lot of work, but maybe if some of the chemists is bored, I'd totally try some (small amount?). Should 'use up' less freebase I think, would be really interesting. Shire (Adderall) probably mixed them for a reason and the guy who first synthesized it, really liked it [1] 8)
[1] http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/amphetamine.phosphate.html
While my salt is more. effective, dose for dose, than the dibasic sulfate, insofar as the desired stimulation of the central nervous system is concerned, it produces less undesirable side-effects attributable to stimulation of the sympathetic nervous system. This may be due to the fact that it contains less of the amphetamine base. However, that does not explain why the desired therapeutic effects are not similarly diminished, but rather substantially enhanced. It appears that the undesirable side-effects are distinct from the desired effects of these salts, insofar as dosage is concerned, and it is probable that the desired effects are favorably influenced by the presence of phosphoric acid.
Sounds awesome :)
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Has anyone ordered from AfterHour? He sells 60% speed at a very good price. I might order if there is a recommend reviewer who already tested it.
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Tried BM's Speed yesterday...i agree with müslix and hellwind, taste ist horrible! But it's really good, just took two small lines.
Later in bed I was thinking about some a valium or xanax to get some sleep. But worked without at the end, just took some time ::)
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Ok, I ordered from BM's last batch to have express shipping as an option and it arrived yesterday after ~7 working days. Now, before I go on and post a ton of photos and go into detail I wanted to know what is ok to show when it comes to the packaging? I haven't taken any photos of the container because I assume that's a no-no but I did take pictures of the contents and of course the product itself.
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Was Jurgens phosphate dextro or racemic?
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very likely racemic. never saw d-amphetamine on here (yet), besides Dexedrine. One of the main points seems to be that it's monobasic:
It is distinguished from the dibasic (monohydrogen) and tribasic (fully neutralized) forms, since these contain two and three mots, respectively, of amphetamine for each mol of phosphoric acid.
Speculating that di- and tribasic would result in less amphetamine (base equivalent), not quite sure why this can happen and why it doesn't with the Sulphate? More guesswork: with H2SO4 only dibasic is possible. maybe? ;D
That's actually the real patent: http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/amphetamine.phosphate.html
Could be worth a shot ???
It sounds really nice, more CNS-stim with less physical side effects (jittering, ...). But it's a patent, so there's possibly some advertising going on, still pretty interesting. The neutralization part sounds kinda hard though.
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Well if it is genuine medical grade then it could have been diverted from the pharmaceutical industry and in that case it could be dextro.. Was it pills or powder?
The phosphate isn't that much harder than the sulphate.. Just create the salt with phosphoric acid instead of sulphuric acid..
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It was powder and no mention of d- or dl-amphetamine. so I am guessing the latter. But both seem to be common. But iirc it was like 0.7g or something like that and really expensive. I guess d-amph would be worth mentioning though.
The hard part seems to be to only create the monobasic phosphate or you'll end up with all three variants mixed together with some base.
Dunno, I'm no chemist ;D The phosphate properties seem to make sense. There's a paper that covers this "Change the salt, change the drug", don't have access though.
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Ok, I ordered from BM's last batch to have express shipping as an option and it arrived yesterday after ~7 working days. Now, before I go on and post a ton of photos and go into detail I wanted to know what is ok to show when it comes to the packaging? I haven't taken any photos of the container because I assume that's a no-no but I did take pictures of the contents and of course the product itself.
I'm relieved to hear that. I'm waiting 7 days right now for my stuff to arrive. But I didn't order express shipping. So it will hopefully arrive next week.
You can post any picture that doesn't reveal something about the packaging. Go ahead! :)
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@müslix: don't have exact dates, but j., boymaster and fireuk last 3 weeks.
Cooper > 3 months a go (there are reports he sent mephedrone instead of amph, but I guarantee mine wasn't meph.
Aakoven/dmt > 4 months a go
@Raoul_Duke: got for Dormicum if need to sleep after amph. Short acting benzos, you will fall asleep within 20 min, and after 3h is not more effective, then you sleep by your own. Fresh in the morning without classical benzos after effect
@CC: Hope to see your offers soon again, i'm really curious to have a try. Anyway if was racemic. I managed to find pure dextro last year, but the difference of effect was definitely noticable. Dextro is a really clear-mind opener, but more usefull for work or tasks than party/recreative use.
Nice to see on the forum there are good reviewers with good knowledge..SR rating system is really not pointing anywhere ;)
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Having issues uploading photos. So when the letter arrived, first thing I noticed was that it could use some better security. Obviously works well enough to get through customs but just shaking things around a little I could see the vac bag. There was no smell on the letter and only a slight chem smell on the baggy itself. Powder clumps up a little bit which is great since it makes it easier for me to put exact dosages in the little capsules I use but the clumps break apart easily for those ingesting otherwise. It's beige or on the tanner side of beige in color. When taking orally, I usually have to wait for 45 min to 1 hour to start getting any good speedy effects but after 15 or 20 min the body rush from the 50mg I took kicked me in the teeth. Completely caught me off guard and it was beautiful. I'm don't have a tolerance right now and I'm not sure if taking on an empty stomach had anything to do with how fast the effects started coming on, but either way I really dig this gear. On just the one dose, I managed to get 7 hours out of it before I started to feel a heavy body load coming down and only got 2 hours of sleep later at night because my mind was still active even though physically I was exhausted. I'll post the pictures up later when I can get them to work.
As far as the taste the rest of you are talking about, is it just really bitter? Because that's what I've always associated with speed taste.
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@ToleranceBreak: Nice to hear the stuff is good as expected. About the taste - I actually like the "bitter speed taste" (at the end you get used and you start liking it..like for a wine sommelier haha), but this kind of taste it's really odd compared to other speeds. It reminds me some bad cut of cocaine taste, I can't say what's giving this taste.
That's why as you did - I took BM speed normally orally. 0.3g capsule do a very effective job ;)
@Muslix: ok, thanks for the info, i'll need to remove him from the guarantee seller list ;)
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I'm dumb, didn't realize each of the original photos were more than double the allowed size limit. :P Also, since I didn't wanna go through and edit every single photo for size etc, I just edited 3 that give the gist.
Vac sealed - http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=06bb232f043505b0e779b405335f5b39.jpg
The gear - http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=59a029761b87173848606bbea098888d.jpg
A clump ouside of the baggie to view better - http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=a76acf1d836197de8611406bbc77dee7.jpg
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was the phosphate stuff of juergen ever lab-tested?
I mean you are praising the product of someone who sold this as pure amph :o
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=78aa5d91a334ae5526d0104f3aae7f80.jpg
I would actually bet that his polish speed paste includes meth as well, meth is pretty common in eastern Europe.. and he only accepts FE..
PS: I like the taste of BM's as well ::)
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dont think it was tested, but doesn't matter :P I have never bought from jürgen and I probably never will.
Ah moz30's legacy I see :)
I don't praise his product, I think the phosphate is good based on the description in the patent from the guy who came up with it. If it works, less Amp will be needed, for same CNS-stim, while reducing unpleasant physical side-effects and possibly help with comedown. I am not suggesting to move every production resource to Phosphate, just want to test it :)
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That's why as you did - I took BM speed normally orally. 0.3g capsule do a very effective job ;)
0.3g, seriously? :o
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Just a heads up.. I am disabling PMs on my forum profile.. If you need to PM me then do so on the main site!
Thanks
CC
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Two days ago I received Boymasters stuff. First impression was good stuff with a high purity.
I will bring this to the lab next thursday so in two weeks I will post the results on this forum.
Jalapeno offered me a sample for free and I accepted that of course . I hope I receive this before thursday then they can do a test on this stuff to.
I come back here when I have some news.
Speedie
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Thanks once again speedie! good job mentioning the sample, should avoid possible confusion. Looking forward to see the potential of jalapeno's gear (GE resurrection? ;D )
BM... well the listings claim 96 iirc, but can we trust him?! :o Or will he rip us off with 93%? 8)
color shouldn't account for much (1%), so far it was noticeable if there was room upwards. But here... don't think I ever had gear that was noticeable better, though one... think it's 95+ though
> my guess: 97.2% AmphSO4 per weight
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Thanks for testing all the amphetamine from different vendors Speedie. I'd +1 karma you if I could :)
My guess is 93.1% amphetamine salt.
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Finally got to try some of CC's stuff. Gotta say, it's probably the best I've ever had. The come on is amazingly smooth.
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Hey
Does anybody know speedies username on SR? I need something tested.. Or if there's anybody else reliable from the Netherlands who can test something for me please PM me on the main site.. In return you will receive a gram of my new 90%+ batch for free..
Thanks
CC
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Finally got to try some of CC's stuff. Gotta say, it's probably the best I've ever had. The come on is amazingly smooth.
Glad to see you're happy.. The next batch will be even better 8)
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why is there no speed in the states? would love to see a NLD/euro reshipper on here please! i don't want fucking meth over speed but i may be forced to go that way cus i don't deal with international
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Hey
Does anybody know speedies username on SR? I need something tested.. Or if there's anybody else reliable from the Netherlands who can test something for me please PM me on the main site.. In return you will receive a gram of my new 90%+ batch for free..
Thanks
CC
I can bring it to a test center in Holland if you'd like :)
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Hey
Does anybody know speedies username on SR? I need something tested.. Or if there's anybody else reliable from the Netherlands who can test something for me please PM me on the main site.. In return you will receive a gram of my new 90%+ batch for free..
Thanks
CC
I can bring it to a test center in Holland if you'd like :)
PM me ;) I'd like to post it in this week some time.. Oh and before i get flamed for sending out a sample that i know is going to be tested.. The result is for my personal use only :)
Cheers
CC
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Capecrusader
I just sent you a PM with my adress.
Let me know if and when you sent me a sample.
Speedie
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Capecrusader
I just sent you a PM with my adress.
Let me know if and when you sent me a sample.
Speedie
Hey speedie.. Thanks for the reply.. I've opted to send the sample to Knomo.. Please bare in mind that this is only for my personal use to see exactly how successful our updated purification techniques are.. Once the 3rd batch is released i encourage you and as much other people to randomly order and test my product to prove that the quality is consistent with the sample tested by Knomo..
Best Regards
CC
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latest order from CC arrived. Not sure which batch this is...Haven't used much of the last yet, not to mention what's left of Mr F,and BM. Now my local supply is back with quality.....Arrrrrgh..WTF is going on, too much good speed.
Would you all please stop and let me catch up a bit before my teeth fall out..Thanks DD
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latest order from CC arrived...Haven't used much of the last yet, not to mention what's left of Mr F,and BM. Now my local supply is back with quality.....A,rrrrrgh too much good speed.
Would you all please stop and let me catch up a bit before my teeth fall out..Thanks DD
If i may ask.. What are the prices from your local supply like?
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latest order from CC arrived...Haven't used much of the last yet, not to mention what's left of Mr F,and BM. Now my local supply is back with quality.....A,rrrrrgh too much good speed.
Would you all please stop and let me catch up a bit before my teeth fall out..Thanks DD
If i may ask.. What are the prices from your local supply like?
Pointless question without knowing the purity ;) 40% could be considered quality speed ;)
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latest order from CC arrived...Haven't used much of the last yet, not to mention what's left of Mr F,and BM. Now my local supply is back with quality.....A,rrrrrgh too much good speed.
Would you all please stop and let me catch up a bit before my teeth fall out..Thanks DD
If i may ask.. What are the prices from your local supply like?
Pointless question without knowing the purity ;) 40% could be considered quality speed ;)
Yeah i figured as much.. Just wanted to know how much street "base" goes for.. From the research i've done it is max 50% pure but i am not sure how things work in the UK..
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If i may ask.. What are the prices from your local supply like?
I live in the Netherlands and the amphetamine market is pretty bad. Here are some test results and prices:
- 5 euro a gram; 26% amphetamine salt and 33% caffeine
- 15 euro a gram; 56% amphetamine salt, no caffeine but 4% 4-ma which is dangerous, I still used it and liked it
- 70 euro for 10 grams; 69% amphetamine salt, no caffeine, no 4-ma
And every time they guarantee it's top of the notch speed. These test results were from the past 5 months. The last one was 2 months ago.
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I can bring it to a test center in Holland if you'd like :)
Look, how quick he can react when asked for testing hehe :P
btw offtopic, but has anyone of you Dutch Guys heard of the Dutch green club?
why is there no speed in the states? would love to see a NLD/euro reshipper on here please! i don't want fucking meth over speed but i may be forced to go that way cus i don't deal with international
you mean NL -> EU -> US ? I'm sure some EU guy would help you with this, but I don't really see the point in ordering from NL atm (OldAmsterdam maybe). So why would you need a reshipper?
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I can bring it to a test center in Holland if you'd like :)
Look, how quick he can react when asked for testing hehe :P
Hehe, I've offered to bring a sample from FUK to a test center too, but that was before he went on 'vacation'.
But yeah, I know, it's a dirty job; but someones gotta do it ;)
And what do you mean with quick reply btw? Have I ever not replied to you quickly? 0:)
btw offtopic, but has anyone of you Dutch Guys heard of the Dutch green club?
Have not heard about that, but name to me sounds like it has something to do with weed. And I'm like totally not into that :P
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CC, you're stuff is amazing! More "fun-feeling" than BoyMaster's. Don't get me wrong, BM's stuff is extremely potent but I find it best for focusing/studying. I love having both CC and BM at hand, both fantastic products. The smooth euphoria from CC's batch is just awesome. Thanks CC!
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@Raoul_Duke: got for Dormicum if need to sleep after amph. Short acting benzos, you will fall asleep within 20 min, and after 3h is not more effective, then you sleep by your own. Fresh in the morning without classical benzos after effect
Nice to see on the forum there are good reviewers with good knowledge..SR rating system is really not pointing anywhere ;)
Thanks for the hint, heard about it but never tried. Usually I take stilnox (zolipedem). The effect look similar to dormicum, also with a short effect time. Usually I fall asleep after 15-30 min.
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Have I missed something?
Is BM's current batch not what it should be? I want some Speed for personal use and for next week. The purest amphetamine (sulphate) possible. CC has no listings and Mr.Fire, too. So stays BM's pep, right?
And I want to give some to the local pep-heads with the words "hey its is triple the price of yours but try it it is ten times better" ;-)
So any LabTests of BM's batch I missed?
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latest order from CC arrived...Haven't used much of the last yet, not to mention what's left of Mr F,and BM. Now my local supply is back with quality.....A,rrrrrgh too much good speed.
Would you all please stop and let me catch up a bit before my teeth fall out..Thanks DD
If i may ask.. What are the prices from your local supply like?
The local paste i get normally sells for about £10gm or £50 for 7gms and a lot better than 'normal' street speed..Probably about one or two sellers away from the lab. Not a clue to the purity.and no way to find out here.
.I only use amp to party and initially do a small pea sized bomb (probably !/2gm when wet )at around 5pm on Friday,with bumps after about 8hrs over 36hr period Gives a strong euphoria and a very strong horny tweak..especially in women, causing insatiable and amazingly immoral behaviour. :o....and spend next day recovering. Don't seem to get much comedown apart from sleep loss ,which is probably due to having the 'Keith Richards party gene' and 25+yrs of use. 8)... ..I'm told it's uncut paste bur quality varies a lot, even from the supposed same batch....
Sorry about the rmble,.couldn't resist a little tester of new CC...came up while replying
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Bungee54 amphetamine review
Product: Amphetamine ("Speed / Amphetamine TOP QUALITY").
Communication : Very good, Bungee54 hangs around the forums and tries to be helpful too.
Shipping: shipped within 24h. after ordering, arrived in 5 days to EU.
Packaging: nothing fancy, but everything up to SR standard.
Weight: 1g. sample, I think it was a bit over.
Looks: yellow, dry, powder with 'pebbles'. Very strong smell.
Tolerance: doing quite a lot of amphetamine and other stimulants lately.
Dosages: ~700mg. over 20hrs to stay awake and get the job done. 130mg. couple days later.
Evening before I did a dose of MDMA+4FA and only had a few hours of sleep. So I wasn't in the best form, but I had to do some work on PC. Started with 80mg. oral, didn't feel much, so 30mins later snorted around the same amount. Smell was really nasty, but the burn was minimal when snorted. This made me awake, but not much of euphoria or energy. Re-dosed every few hours to keep me going. At the end of the session had some chest pain, but it was minimal, so I believe there was no caffeine/other active crap in amph.
Couple of days later weighted out what was left (130mg.), and snorted it in two lines. Got some positive effects, but after 4 hours and a few joints went to sleep no problem.
Extensions and commentary: Well, I guess it could be described as 'TOP QUALITY' street speed, but I don't think it's more than 30% pure. No bad side effects even in long sessions, so that's a plus. I see it's currently sold for 40$/2g. and that's way too much looking and current SR speed market.
YMMV.
Current status: on tolerance break (6 days), waiting for order from CC to arrive:)
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Have I missed something?
Is BM's current batch not what it should be? I want some Speed for personal use and for next week. The purest amphetamine (sulphate) possible. CC has no listings and Mr.Fire, too. So stays BM's pep, right?
And I want to give some to the local pep-heads with the words "hey its is triple the price of yours but try it it is ten times better" ;-)
So any LabTests of BM's batch I missed?
BM's current batch is exactly what it should be, it can get quite intense though if you underestimate it. It gives a really awesome body rush when using at appropriate dosages.
I believe the purest is BM (test is still on it's way), followed by CC (80+%, looks like a mistake/error in production CC said, he'll fix it and will list again once fixed) and last but least: FireUK's speed lottery, you'll win something between 40 and 90%. The lower ones being more likely,. (he just cut it calling everyone who pointed it out a liar).
If you liked BM's last batch, you will LOVE this one.
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BM's current batch is exactly what it should be, it can get quite intense though if you underestimate it. It gives a really awesome body rush when using at appropriate dosages.
I believe the purest is BM (test is still on it's way), followed by CC (80+%, looks like a mistake/error in production CC said, he'll fix it and will list again once fixed) and last but least: FireUK's speed lottery, you'll win something between 40 and 90%. The lower ones being more likely,. (he just cut it calling everyone who pointed it out a liar).
If you liked BM's last batch, you will LOVE this one.
The problem is already sorted.. It just required a more advanced purification technique.. But the new batch is still weeks away from being released.. so if you really cannot wait then pay the premium and go with BM..
Cheers
CC
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Unintentional Review on CC.
Tolerance-Quite high after weekend. So i thought..
New scales arrived..old ones not accurate enough for present SR Amp quality. Checked them out with CC new arrival and weighed out 0.150g
....and since it was already weighed out, may as well have a taste....as it was just a dab..
Completely taken by surprise again..Stronger than my last from CC...should know better by now.. Came on after 15mins with a clear euphoric rush and a very nice physical tweak.Am now much higher than I intended or expected to be, Dammit !!... ..Words fail....Outstanding speed...
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Unintentional Review on CC.
Tolerance-Quite high after weekend. So i thought..
New scales arrived..old ones not accurate enough for present SR Amp quality. Checked them out with CC new arrival and weighed out 0.150g
....and since it was already weighed out, may as well have a taste....as it was just a dab..
Completely taken by surprise again..Stronger than my last from CC...should know better by now.. Came on after 15mins with a clear euphoric rush and a very nice physical tweak.Am now much higher than I intended or expected to be, Dammit !!... ..Words fail....Outstanding speed...
Lol we may just have a new method of testing the speed on SR.. If hellhazz has more than 5 posts/edits within a few hours you know the speed is good.. ;)
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Bungee54 amphetamine review
Product: Amphetamine ("Speed / Amphetamine TOP QUALITY").
Communication : Very good, Bungee54 hangs around the forums and tries to be helpful too.
Shipping: shipped within 24h. after ordering, arrived in 5 days to EU.
Packaging: nothing fancy, but everything up to SR standard.
Weight: 1g. sample, I think it was a bit over.
Looks: yellow, dry, powder with 'pebbles'. Very strong smell.
Tolerance: doing quite a lot of amphetamine and other stimulants lately.
Dosages: ~700mg. over 20hrs to stay awake and get the job done. 130mg. couple days later.
Evening before I did a dose of MDMA+4FA and only had a few hours of sleep. So I wasn't in the best form, but I had to do some work on PC. Started with 80mg. oral, didn't feel much, so 30mins later snorted around the same amount. Smell was really nasty, but the burn was minimal when snorted. This made me awake, but not much of euphoria or energy. Re-dosed every few hours to keep me going. At the end of the session had some chest pain, but it was minimal, so I believe there was no caffeine/other active crap in amph.
Couple of days later weighted out what was left (130mg.), and snorted it in two lines. Got some positive effects, but after 4 hours and a few joints went to sleep no problem.
Extensions and commentary: Well, I guess it could be described as 'TOP QUALITY' street speed, but I don't think it's more than 30% pure. No bad side effects even in long sessions, so that's a plus. I see it's currently sold for 40$/2g. and that's way too much looking and current SR speed market.
YMMV.
Current status: on tolerance break (6 days), waiting for order from CC to arrive:)
Please see our answer in our thread.
Cheers!
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Vendor: MrFireUK
product: 2 grms of speed
Experience: 5 out of 5
Despite negative reviews in the forum, my order from this vendor was superb. Ordered on a Monday night, he let me know Tuesday morning it was on its way and Saturday in the mail I got it. Europe to eastern US. Very nice.
The package was stealth defined.
And the product?
Well...just let me say it is probably wise not to do a little under 1/4 gram of speed at 10:00 at night. Unless you WANT to not sleep or eat for 36+ hours. And that was fine with me--I didn't have to go anywhere on Sunday. I am saying his speed does everything speed should (no jitters however, you are just AWAKE). It is Monday afternoon now and after a good nights sleep last night feel quite right. I am very happy with this vendor and would love to get more.
Note to self: however much it resembles coke DO NOT rub excess from lines on gum.
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Have I missed something?
Is BM's current batch not what it should be? I want some Speed for personal use and for next week. The purest amphetamine (sulphate) possible. CC has no listings and Mr.Fire, too. So stays BM's pep, right?
And I want to give some to the local pep-heads with the words "hey its is triple the price of yours but try it it is ten times better" ;-)
So any LabTests of BM's batch I missed?
BM's current batch is exactly what it should be, it can get quite intense though if you underestimate it. It gives a really awesome body rush when using at appropriate dosages.
I believe the purest is BM (test is still on it's way), followed by CC (80+%, looks like a mistake/error in production CC said, he'll fix it and will list again once fixed) and last but least: FireUK's speed lottery, you'll win something between 40 and 90%. The lower ones being more likely,. (he just cut it calling everyone who pointed it out a liar).
If you liked BM's last batch, you will LOVE this one.
thanks for this detailed and well written answer to my question. I will buy the CC batch then.
@CapeCrusader: I will try yours, too but you have none to order right now.
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Note to self: however much it resembles coke DO NOT rub excess from lines on gum.
Haha, classic :D
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had mr.fire stuff, not bad at all.
gonna test boymaster this week. ill let you know
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2nd batch of Mr. Fire's turned out to be just as good as my original sample.
I'd have to rate CC's as #1 all time speed I've had. BM's and Mr. Fire's tied for 2nd.
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My order from BoyMaster finally came today, 13 days after being marked in transit. Packaging was good, nice and subtle. Vac sealed. Everything you need basically. I'd ordered two grams which thankfully were separate. They smelled strongly and I must admit, I was actually a little scared to test. I haven't done phet in years and nothing this strong. The bags were comprised of lots of little pebbles and rocks and powder. I got my kit out and using a scalpel, slit open the vac seal bags and used the blades tip to take a little bit of the gear and dump it into my spoon. I squirted about a quarter of a ml of warm water over it and added a little heat. Sometimes I get a little anticipation anxiety before injecting stimulants so I popped a halcion and a seroquel and slammed it home. The shit is strong, I literally used less then a match head sized rock, only a tiny bit of dust really and I can feel it.
I'm holding off doing a big slam of the stuff until I have some heroin on hand to mix with it.
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your treatment sounds more like you had an anticipation panic attack with multiple seizures ;D ;D
Sounds pretty extreme to me and reasonable cautious at the same time. Nice mix :) Take care though, a bit too much and the gear will turn on you making it pretty unpleasant. Makes the H look reasonable cautious again haha :)
If you get dosage right, it must be one hell of a high. Still wouldn't do it. Too afraid of needles :P
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Okay round two of the reviewing.(posted this on BoyMasters review thread too)
I've now done a bit of extensive testing myself and I'm quite impressed by it. I went to my heroin dealers house, because him and his friends love meth and amphetamines too. When I got there, we mixed up a shot of heroin and a bit of the speed, then split it in half. I did mine first and must say, the hit from injecting speed isn't like most other stimulants i,e injecting cocaine, ritalin or meth. It's just not as euphoric nor is there much of a rush or flash. Though after buying some heroin and heading home, I mixed up a wrap of heroin with a bit of the speed (remember I don't have scales so I'm eyeballing doses) and the amount in this one was the largest so far. As soon as I'd injected it I got some horripilation on the back of my neck. and I certainly felt it but there's not much of a rush or anything for it.
I then set about with some things I needed to do. cutting out squares of paper out of the corner of a magazine with a scalpel to make the wraps I'm putting one of my grams into. I got quite into the work really. The phet certainly helped me do it better and I was quicker then I normally may have been, not to mention I relished in the physical activities. Cutting the paper, folding it straight and cutting it again. Then I putt the rest of the gram I'd been dosing from, as well as packaging for retail and put it onto a sort of plastic dish type thing. It's hard to describe but it's great for chopping / cutting rocky powders without them going everywhere. I just took to it with the blade from inside a stanley knife until it was all fluffy an fine. Ran it through a sieve and then put the main stash in a bag while I write this and do some other bits and bobs. At this point I'm really sweating and can feel my jaw kinda feeling stiff. I start thinking maybe there had been too little heroin in my mixed shot and take four 250mcg halcion, which seem to have calmed me down significantly.
I take it some of you in this thread had resold some of this speed to friends and acquaintances right? Some friends I know are okay to have it as it is, in it's pure state. But there are a couple of friends who I'd prefer to mix it with a little bit of something first, to save them from themselves. Everyone else, I've sold / given gear to got it at 100% original strength. Just some young ones I don't want them overestimating their ability to handle. So what would be good to water it down slightly? I was thinking possibly icing sugar, bicarbonate soda or possibly some glucose if I could get it. Just need to know what would be best, considering they may inject it and I don't want something like baking soda that might possibly change the solutions PH stopping any getting in the shot.
Tomorrow, I'm going to eat a small pebble of it after I get my morning methadone dose too and will report that.
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For cutting Inositol or manitol I've heard from friends that sell speed. Inositol gets taken orally in doses up to two gramms or more a day and is naturally occurring in the body
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Received some CC gear a day or two ago, total 9 working days since order. I've taken some pictures but haven't had any yet because I wanted to wait a week to make sure my tolerance is back down. All in the name of fair comparison. This stuff is definitely chunkier and whiter than BM's gear but breaks up just as easy. Kinda had a different smell than I expected, only thing I can compare the smell to is alka-seltzer tablets. Not sure if that's what was going around earlier or if this is a different batch (since CC mentioned they're all small batches). Hopefully I'll make it to the weekend without dipping into this.
In the vac baggy - http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=33e58805e57fb10ba8c7f205f7fb74aa.jpg
Closer pic of gear in bag - http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c329e2c4071af747870e54782c08e68c.jpg
Colour & texture comparison between CC & BM (in respective bags):
- http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=f7d88829b2f7abb79f27d864eeba7f1e.jpg
- http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=49fbb181427095250dc411db70a42083.jpg
PS. Is there a way to get thumbnails to work in these forums? Every time I try, it just posts the code but never puts up a pic.
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Thanks Trolley. I ended up just making those square sealing wraps and putting in about 50mgs worth roughly
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PS. Is there a way to get thumbnails to work in these forums? Every time I try, it just posts the code but never puts up a pic.
No there isn't :)
Imagine the board loading speed if it was filled with images ;) It's slow enough as it is :P
Nice pics btw, good job on the tolerance building as well, I never get around to do that ::)
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This thread has gone so quiet, everyone taking a break from the gear atm ?
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Okay round two of the reviewing.(posted this on BoyMasters review thread too)
I've now done a bit of extensive testing myself and I'm quite impressed by it. I went to my heroin dealers house, because him and his friends love meth and amphetamines too. When I got there, we mixed up a shot of heroin and a bit of the speed, then split it in half. I did mine first and must say, the hit from injecting speed isn't like most other stimulants i,e injecting cocaine, ritalin or meth. It's just not as euphoric nor is there much of a rush or flash. Though after buying some heroin and heading home, I mixed up a wrap of heroin with a bit of the speed (remember I don't have scales so I'm eyeballing doses) and the amount in this one was the largest so far. As soon as I'd injected it I got some horripilation on the back of my neck. and I certainly felt it but there's not much of a rush or anything for it.
I then set about with some things I needed to do. cutting out squares of paper out of the corner of a magazine with a scalpel to make the wraps I'm putting one of my grams into. I got quite into the work really. The phet certainly helped me do it better and I was quicker then I normally may have been, not to mention I relished in the physical activities. Cutting the paper, folding it straight and cutting it again. Then I putt the rest of the gram I'd been dosing from, as well as packaging for retail and put it onto a sort of plastic dish type thing. It's hard to describe but it's great for chopping / cutting rocky powders without them going everywhere. I just took to it with the blade from inside a stanley knife until it was all fluffy an fine. Ran it through a sieve and then put the main stash in a bag while I write this and do some other bits and bobs. At this point I'm really sweating and can feel my jaw kinda feeling stiff. I start thinking maybe there had been too little heroin in my mixed shot and take four 250mcg halcion, which seem to have calmed me down significantly.
I take it some of you in this thread had resold some of this speed to friends and acquaintances right? Some friends I know are okay to have it as it is, in it's pure state. But there are a couple of friends who I'd prefer to mix it with a little bit of something first, to save them from themselves. Everyone else, I've sold / given gear to got it at 100% original strength. Just some young ones I don't want them overestimating their ability to handle. So what would be good to water it down slightly? I was thinking possibly icing sugar, bicarbonate soda or possibly some glucose if I could get it. Just need to know what would be best, considering they may inject it and I don't want something like baking soda that might possibly change the solutions PH stopping any getting in the shot.
Tomorrow, I'm going to eat a small pebble of it after I get my morning methadone dose too and will report that.
Vitamin B12.
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Anyone tried jalapeno's speed already? Also Mrfire is back with his listings... he updated his description which I like a lot. Damn but jalapeno is cheap as fuck... cant decide where to spend my money lol
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So MrFireUK comes back after selling a lot of people poor quality/questionable rc shit, and now he wants FE and no more refunds given no matter what? I MIGHT have tried his new batch out, but not a chance now...getting some more from BM today and another order when he puts out the dextro in a few.
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i received BoyMasters gear (2g's) in 4 days to eastern us
un realll speed (pun intended)
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BM needs some more WEEKS to release the dextro batch.
Am pretty excited.
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Has BM released the prices for his dextro? I could release some as well but not quite sure if it would be feasible.. Will see how it goes when BM releases..
CC
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i received BoyMasters gear (2g's) in 4 days to eastern us
un realll speed (pun intended)
Same here. Haven't sampled it yet, but if his product is as speedy as his shipping I'm going to be making paper clip sculptures for weeks.
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BM needs some more WEEKS to release the dextro batch.
Am pretty excited.
Ha, yup I meant a few weeks not a few days if you were referring to my post. Cannot wait either, hope it's not too expensive...I'm not spending any more btc on here until then....hopefully...gotta stay strong.
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Wait, you guys are telling me BM is going to be releasing powdered dexamphet? Wowsers, now that's neat. To be honest, I didn't enjoy the amphetamine as much as I anticipated I might. I prefer meth over it. Though I can see it has it's usefulness and place. I've still got some of the few grams I got off bm left but don't think I'll do it.
It reminds me of the tail end of certain batches of meth where the euphoria is about done with and what you've got left is the stimulation. Like it's good for doing my writing. Grinding on rpgs and getting work done.
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Has BM released the prices for his dextro? I could release some as well but not quite sure if it would be feasible.. Will see how it goes when BM releases..
CC
Maybe I missed something, but all I read from BM re: dextro was something along the lines of "there will be a surprise for all of you who like the dextro isomer". I asked him for details in a PM a while ago but he hasn't answered yet.
If selling dextro is not economically viable I'd happily buy a mix of 50% dextro and 50% regular racemic amphetamine. There's a bunch of studies saying that such a mix is superior to dextro alone at least for treating ADD/ADHD (faster onset, longer lasting effect).
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Maybe I missed something, but all I read from BM re: dextro was something along the lines of "there will be a surprise for all of you who like the dextro isomer". I asked him for details in a PM a while ago but he hasn't answered yet.
If selling dextro is not economically viable I'd happily buy a mix of 50% dextro and 50% regular racemic amphetamine. There's a bunch of studies saying that such a mix is superior to dextro alone at least for treating ADD/ADHD (faster onset, longer lasting effect).
For the most part you are correct.. You see if people actually understood the chemistry behind it they would understand.. Performing a chiral resolution to seperate the enantiomers is no walk in the park.. The yield will not be 100%.. To obtain the dextro enantiomer with a very high optical purity you will lose quite a bit of your original racemic mixture.. I have experimented and have lost an average of about 20%-40%.. So we could assume that the price for 1 gram of dextro powder will be more than twice as much as a gram of racemic.. I would estimate a ball park figure of about at least US$80+.. Now the question i pose is.. If you could get a gram of dextro for about $80 or 4 grams of racemic for the same amount what would you choose? You will be getting twice the amount of dextro when choosing the racemic for the same amount of money.. I would like to hear peoples thoughts on this matter..
Thanks
CC
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Received Mr. Fires amphe two weeks ago. Its definitely a sort of speed with good quality, but i personally dont really like it. Its a very clear high without any euphoria nor whats called bodyload here in the forums. You're simply awake, no feeling of a rush at all. I guess its what some people are looking for, but i'm more the guy who wants to have more 'pressure'.
Overall communication with this vendor was professional and the package came fast and stealthy. Placed an order at BM and will give feedback too.
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Is there a difference in high between dex amph and amph sulfate?
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Received Mr. Fires amphe two weeks ago. Its definitely a sort of speed with good quality, but i personally dont really like it. Its a very clear high without any euphoria nor whats called bodyload here in the forums. You're simply awake, no feeling of a rush at all. I guess its what some people are looking for, but i'm more the guy who wants to have more 'pressure'.
Overall communication with this vendor was professional and the package came fast and stealthy. Placed an order at BM and will give feedback too.
Pretty much would sum up my thoughts as well.
I have also tried BM's stuff and it is by far a supieror product of MrFireUK's so called 90% batch ???
What kinda annoys me is the fact it seems MrFire has not even address the many issues brought up about his speed. Has anyone seen anything posted by him acknowledging anything ?
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Received Mr. Fires amphe two weeks ago. Its definitely a sort of speed with good quality, but i personally dont really like it. Its a very clear high without any euphoria nor whats called bodyload here in the forums. You're simply awake, no feeling of a rush at all. I guess its what some people are looking for, but i'm more the guy who wants to have more 'pressure'.
Overall communication with this vendor was professional and the package came fast and stealthy. Placed an order at BM and will give feedback too.
Pretty much would sum up my thoughts as well.
I have also tried BM's stuff and it is by far a supieror product of MrFireUK's so called 90% batch ???
What kinda annoys me is the fact it seems MrFire has not even address the many issues brought up about his speed. Has anyone seen anything posted by him acknowledging anything ?
Hate to confirm all that but yeah :( Hopefully "it's just me".
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Maybe I missed something, but all I read from BM re: dextro was something along the lines of "there will be a surprise for all of you who like the dextro isomer". I asked him for details in a PM a while ago but he hasn't answered yet.
If selling dextro is not economically viable I'd happily buy a mix of 50% dextro and 50% regular racemic amphetamine. There's a bunch of studies saying that such a mix is superior to dextro alone at least for treating ADD/ADHD (faster onset, longer lasting effect).
For the most part you are correct.. You see if people actually understood the chemistry behind it they would understand.. Performing a chiral resolution to seperate the enantiomers is no walk in the park.. The yield will not be 100%.. To obtain the dextro enantiomer with a very high optical purity you will lose quite a bit of your original racemic mixture.. I have experimented and have lost an average of about 20%-40%.. So we could assume that the price for 1 gram of dextro powder will be more than twice as much as a gram of racemic.. I would estimate a ball park figure of about at least US$80+.. Now the question i pose is.. If you could get a gram of dextro for about $80 or 4 grams of racemic for the same amount what would you choose? You will be getting twice the amount of dextro when choosing the racemic for the same amount of money.. I would like to hear peoples thoughts on this matter..
Thanks
CC
I'd definitely choose the 4g of racemic amphetamine over 1(!) gram of d,-amphetamine.
I have also tried BM's stuff and it is by far a supieror product of MrFireUK's so called 90% batch ???
What kinda annoys me is the fact it seems MrFire has not even address the many issues brought up about his speed. Has anyone seen anything posted by him acknowledging anything ?
He posted the following quote a day ago on his amphetamine listings.
Some analysis results showed 40% purity , others >90% purity so all I'm going to say on this matter is that this is some very good speed and I don't cut it - if you think you can get a better deal somewhere else then go for it but this is a good deal for sure.
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Maybe I missed something, but all I read from BM re: dextro was something along the lines of "there will be a surprise for all of you who like the dextro isomer". I asked him for details in a PM a while ago but he hasn't answered yet.
If selling dextro is not economically viable I'd happily buy a mix of 50% dextro and 50% regular racemic amphetamine. There's a bunch of studies saying that such a mix is superior to dextro alone at least for treating ADD/ADHD (faster onset, longer lasting effect).
For the most part you are correct.. You see if people actually understood the chemistry behind it they would understand.. Performing a chiral resolution to seperate the enantiomers is no walk in the park.. The yield will not be 100%.. To obtain the dextro enantiomer with a very high optical purity you will lose quite a bit of your original racemic mixture.. I have experimented and have lost an average of about 20%-40%.. So we could assume that the price for 1 gram of dextro powder will be more than twice as much as a gram of racemic.. I would estimate a ball park figure of about at least US$80+.. Now the question i pose is.. If you could get a gram of dextro for about $80 or 4 grams of racemic for the same amount what would you choose? You will be getting twice the amount of dextro when choosing the racemic for the same amount of money.. I would like to hear peoples thoughts on this matter..
Thanks
CC
I'd definitely choose the 4g of racemic amphetamine over 1(!) gram of d,-amphetamine.
Yes, $80 is just ridiculous. I would choose meth or coke over d-amph then though I'd really like to have a try but not for that price. $60 would be my limit.
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Got my order from BoyMaster today :D
Package: OK stealth, pro letter, he should consider double vacuum in stead of just one.
Product: Strong stuff, smells a lot when opened. Color off white and powder/pebbles, spot on weight. Not too hard on the nose. Did three micro lines, and effect is good. Legit stuff imo!
Shipping: Arrived in 5 working days in within Europe.
Total: 5/5
Stand up guy - no worries with BM!
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after tasting both mrfireuk's stuff and boymaster
boymaster takes the cake man. snorting both (spaced 4 days apart) boymaster has immediate results, mfuk, barely anything
now after taking 50-60mg of each orally, again, separate occasions, holy fuck does boymasters shine even more so
and considering i have been receiving his product to eastern US, on 2 different order times in 4 days ON BOTH ORDERS...i have no choice but to not only stick with him, but not bother looking to another vendor.
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Today I received a sample from jalapeno for free.
It's a dry clumpy powder in a bag that's vacuum sealed.
I have not tried yet but Thursday I bring it to a test centre together with Boymaster's stuff.
I will post the results here in two weeks.
Speedie
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Today I received a sample from jalapeno for free.
It's a dry clumpy powder in a bag that's vacuum sealed.
I have not tried yet but Thursday I bring it to a test centre together with Boymaster's stuff.
I will post the results here in two weeks.
Speedie
testing analyzes are always welcome,
we are really interessted to get a direct comparison of both - and get the precise difference posted.
really nice work you are doing, roll on - and have a nice weekend!
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Got my order from BoyMaster today :D
Package: OK stealth, pro letter, he should consider double vacuum in stead of just one.
Product: Strong stuff, smells a lot when opened. Color off white and powder/pebbles, spot on weight. Not too hard on the nose. Did three micro lines, and effect is good. Legit stuff imo!
Shipping: Arrived in 5 working days in within Europe.
Total: 5/5
Stand up guy - no worries with BM!
Tried 20mg of Boymaster's speed today. It's got a very strong smell - MAYBE slightly smellier than CC's - and 20mg nasal provided a nice warm alert high. Honestly, in a blind taste-testing I'd have a hard time telling the two apart. They are both very clean and pack a great punch: either will keep me awake, alert and productive - or, with a bit too much, cleaning tiles with a toothbrush.
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.So I was able to actually wait until Friday before jumping in to CC's speed which I didn't think I was gonna be able to do. As I mentioned in my previous post, this gear is bright white and clumpy and it looks oh so delicious. 50mg orally and 45 or so minutes later I start feeling the rush. This speed is a cleaner high for sure. There is euphoria but it's not coupled with the physical pump that BM's gear has. What I mean is that you can actually stay seated and do shit that requires fine motor control on this gear without losing your shit. Just like BM's stuff, the main euphoria is gone by about 1.5 hours in or so but still leaves you amped up with energy and ready to do what needs to be done. 5-6 hours go by from the original dosing and it's all done. It doesn't have a bodyload on comedown like BM's gear so you can keep going after you're done speeding. Did get insomnia just like with BM's and slept around 2 hours and did end up staying up 24+ hours. On both occasions it was due mostly to not going to sleep when I was tired and once my second wind hit me there was no way in hell I could sleep. I did notice though, that CC's stuff lets you speed and be social without feeling like you've got a loaded gun in your pants. Didn't feel the need to jump anyone but was ready to go if the situation arose. Overall really good stuff and I hope both are here to stay. I will definetly be back for more
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Maybe I missed something, but all I read from BM re: dextro was something along the lines of "there will be a surprise for all of you who like the dextro isomer". I asked him for details in a PM a while ago but he hasn't answered yet.
If selling dextro is not economically viable I'd happily buy a mix of 50% dextro and 50% regular racemic amphetamine. There's a bunch of studies saying that such a mix is superior to dextro alone at least for treating ADD/ADHD (faster onset, longer lasting effect).
For the most part you are correct.. You see if people actually understood the chemistry behind it they would understand.. Performing a chiral resolution to seperate the enantiomers is no walk in the park.. The yield will not be 100%.. To obtain the dextro enantiomer with a very high optical purity you will lose quite a bit of your original racemic mixture.. I have experimented and have lost an average of about 20%-40%.. So we could assume that the price for 1 gram of dextro powder will be more than twice as much as a gram of racemic.. I would estimate a ball park figure of about at least US$80+.. Now the question i pose is.. If you could get a gram of dextro for about $80 or 4 grams of racemic for the same amount what would you choose? You will be getting twice the amount of dextro when choosing the racemic for the same amount of money.. I would like to hear peoples thoughts on this matter..
Thanks
CC
I would definitely buy some of that stuff, but would only use it on special occasions. Well, once I am actually earning money, I wouldn't care about the price and probably always go for it ::).
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Maybe I missed something, but all I read from BM re: dextro was something along the lines of "there will be a surprise for all of you who like the dextro isomer". I asked him for details in a PM a while ago but he hasn't answered yet.
If selling dextro is not economically viable I'd happily buy a mix of 50% dextro and 50% regular racemic amphetamine. There's a bunch of studies saying that such a mix is superior to dextro alone at least for treating ADD/ADHD (faster onset, longer lasting effect).
For the most part you are correct.. You see if people actually understood the chemistry behind it they would understand.. Performing a chiral resolution to seperate the enantiomers is no walk in the park.. The yield will not be 100%.. To obtain the dextro enantiomer with a very high optical purity you will lose quite a bit of your original racemic mixture.. I have experimented and have lost an average of about 20%-40%.. So we could assume that the price for 1 gram of dextro powder will be more than twice as much as a gram of racemic.. I would estimate a ball park figure of about at least US$80+.. Now the question i pose is.. If you could get a gram of dextro for about $80 or 4 grams of racemic for the same amount what would you choose? You will be getting twice the amount of dextro when choosing the racemic for the same amount of money.. I would like to hear peoples thoughts on this matter..
Thanks
CC
I think a 3-4x increase of the price per gram would be reasonable, considering the higher potency per mg.
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boymasters gear is great dude
i have tried it now for 3 days at around 50mg oral with a 10-20mg bump 3 hrs later, smoooth as shit euphoria for the first 1-2 hrs followed by solid ass energy, no crash, but i always contribute that to eating healthy, taking smart supplements and drinking plenty of fluid
good stuff my man, real good stuff
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I've been wondering about these supplements that come up occasionally in the thread. Magnesium was mentioned earlier, but what others are there? And do you take these to be able to take shorter tolerance breaks? Or is it just to make sure you don't go bad on the phet diet? Until becoming a part of SR my knowledge of staying healthy on Annie was to just eat small meals every 2-3 hours even if not hungry, keep hydrated and make sure to sleep. If there are other things I can do to 1. stay healthy and 2. take shorter tolerance breaks, please let me know! ;D
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I've been wondering about these supplements that come up occasionally in the thread. Magnesium was mentioned earlier, but what others are there? And do you take these to be able to take shorter tolerance breaks? Or is it just to make sure you don't go bad on the phet diet? Until becoming a part of SR my knowledge of staying healthy on Annie was to just eat small meals every 2-3 hours even if not hungry, keep hydrated and make sure to sleep. If there are other things I can do to 1. stay healthy and 2. take shorter tolerance breaks, please let me know! ;D
Vitamin C before , during and after really seems to work for me. Also vegetable juice really seems to make the come down much smoother.
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Maybe I missed something, but all I read from BM re: dextro was something along the lines of "there will be a surprise for all of you who like the dextro isomer". I asked him for details in a PM a while ago but he hasn't answered yet.
If selling dextro is not economically viable I'd happily buy a mix of 50% dextro and 50% regular racemic amphetamine. There's a bunch of studies saying that such a mix is superior to dextro alone at least for treating ADD/ADHD (faster onset, longer lasting effect).
For the most part you are correct.. You see if people actually understood the chemistry behind it they would understand.. Performing a chiral resolution to seperate the enantiomers is no walk in the park.. The yield will not be 100%.. To obtain the dextro enantiomer with a very high optical purity you will lose quite a bit of your original racemic mixture.. I have experimented and have lost an average of about 20%-40%.. So we could assume that the price for 1 gram of dextro powder will be more than twice as much as a gram of racemic.. I would estimate a ball park figure of about at least US$80+.. Now the question i pose is.. If you could get a gram of dextro for about $80 or 4 grams of racemic for the same amount what would you choose? You will be getting twice the amount of dextro when choosing the racemic for the same amount of money.. I would like to hear peoples thoughts on this matter..
Thanks
CC
I think a 3-4x increase of the price per gram would be reasonable, considering the higher potency per mg.
Huh? 3-4x the price would mean 100-130 for 1g of Boymaster's Dex.
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Boymaster's order came to me in 5 business days today (East coast USA)!! I didn't get to it until around 2 pm local, as I got off work early. I had already taken 3 mg xanax today to get me in a nice chill mood....but racked up two small lines (eyeballed at ~40 mg total) and railed them. Nasty little drip but not too bad. 20 minutes later I was having a long ass fucking conversation with my neighbor who i've never said more than five words to!!
I realized what was going on and headed inside quickly, lol. I'm gonna pick up some gatorades that i can sprinkle some of this stuff in for work for the rest of the week....needless to say as soon as my next bitcoins come in i'll be placing another order.
top marks BoyMaster!! Muy bien hecho!!
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I've been wondering about these supplements that come up occasionally in the thread. ... If there are other things I can do to 1. stay healthy and 2. take shorter tolerance breaks, please let me know! ;D
I know personally that when I've taken too high of a dose that Niacinamide really helps to calm down the symptoms. It helps moderate how your brain uses ampheatamines. From what I've read, 300mg seems to be the minimum you would want to take. They conveniently make it in 500mg tablet form, so that's what I keep around. It's an over-the-counter vitamin. I know GNC stocks it for sure if you're looking for a local source. Niacinamide also acts as an anti-anxiety medication, interestingly enough. Google that shit if you wanna read some interesting studies and user reports.
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I did notice though, that CC's stuff lets you speed and be social without feeling like you've got a loaded gun in your pants. Didn't feel the need to jump anyone but was ready to go if the situation arose.
That's exactly how I feel about the effects of CC's vs. other speed's I've used. I took some of BM's stuff 4-5 hours ago, and while it's great for staying awake and concentrating and getting shit done...I have a problem with getting my thoughts out of my head (typing or speaking). I actually have this problem normally, but on other speed it seems to be a bit amplified. It's like I'm almost too concentrated on making sure I'm understood by whoever I'm trying to communicate with, so I make a bunch of mistakes. With CC's, everything just flows out so naturally it's amazing. I can finally "be the person who's in my head" is maybe a good way of saying it? While at the same time getting the other benefits of being on speed.
It would be really interesting to see a lab analysis of it. I've never tried Adderall or dextroamphetamine, and speed was for me a cheaper way of trying out the effects of ADD medication. So I do wonder if this has d-amphetamine (as someone else has said in this thread) in it, or something different.
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boymasters gear is great dude
i have tried it now for 3 days at around 50mg oral with a 10-20mg bump 3 hrs later, smoooth as shit euphoria for the first 1-2 hrs followed by solid ass energy, no crash, but i always contribute that to eating healthy, taking smart supplements and drinking plenty of fluid
good stuff my man, real good stuff
Yeah man I agree. I look forward to trying this at work tomorrow. I bumped up some before i went to wal mart tonight though and felt like fucking anything with tits in there. I hope that dissipates some with an oral dose....because i can't be horn doggin at work, lol.
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For what it's worth, as I am quite a noob on the "amphetamine scene", I just wanted to thank BoyMaster for his great professionalism and helpfulness. I just received my 5g order in less than 6 days to Central Europe (including a WE and 1 day Holiday), so that was fast. As far as the product is concerned, it does look just like on the pictures :). I'll eventually update once I try it if anybody is interested in my "very novice opinion" (I tried amphetamines just once before from aakoven some 6 months ago, so I guess that's not really a "recommendation" from what I read here on the forums)...
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CC - I would absolutely purchase dextro at a reasonable price.
I would also still grab the straight d/l-amp as well.
It'd be great to have both on hand as separate mixtures to use individually or together as deemed appropriate.
Hope to see it offered soon!
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well, it's two weeks since my order from CC was dispatched and mail-woman once again left me disappointed. damn women, they always the same..;D
So this tolerance break is longer than expected and my productivity is suffering a lot..
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well, it's two weeks since my order from CC was dispatched and mail-woman once again left me disappointed. damn women, they always the same..;D
So this tolerance break is longer than expected and my productivity is suffering a lot..
If it makes you feel any better, which I know it won't, I've been without amps for 8 days now - so I'm in the same boat.
Sucks having to rely on them to be productive, but when you're stocked up, you're a hell of a lot more productive than when you're not. So it's an even payoff as far as I'm concerned.
Now only if I could find that infinite supply...
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Well I'm back. I took a time away from amphetamine after being severely pissed off, You could probably tell by my recent posts.
If anyone got offended or annoyed by my essay typing then I'm sorry but I was quite fucking pissed off. I had gone 2-3 weeks without any speed, I finally receive what was the best speed (subjectively, bodyload free- hyperfocused rather than hypersexed) and it was complete shit that didn't do anything for me.
Anyways I received a gram from BM's stuff. i was tentative of ordering from him because his 70% stuff gave me quite the bodyload.
I tried this 90% stuff for the first time yesterday and it indeed gave me bodyload, 120-130 bpm resting heartrate.
The stuff is potent for sure and gives you speed effects but I become a little too worried when I get palpitations every 15 minutes..I'm in my late 20s and have a resting heartrate of 55-60. I'm fit enough. Anyhow I have a bunch of xanax, and only needed 0.5mg to go to sleep 3-4 hours after dosign.
My plan was actually to order from CapeCrusader since I heard his stuff gives less bodyload and Bm is more of a party speed (i need to be able to work and conversate on this rather than just partying..) Although I would not be able to dance on BM stuff because I would spike up to 170-180bpm and then you're sticking your heart into the red zone. I can't speak of the crash since I took a xanax.
I'm not bashing BM stuff, it is subjective- some of you guys might not have the bodyload.
Now, the Last batch of fireuk I received, I sent to my friend in holland to test it and it came out at <32-33%. Fine, but Taking double dose or triple did not give me similar effects to the 2 previous batches (who I would guesstimate were actually around 80% but very clean).
Does anyone else get this bodyload on BM or is it just some kinda reaction I have.
In contrast, the GOOD NON SCAM fireuk stuff (while not giving you that shrink dick super sketch high pupil gain wanna fuck everything)
Gave me a cool 80 bpm resting (anything above 100 at resting is tachycardia) and 110 if I was dancing at most. which is fine. Never had heart palpitations either.
Now, ordering from FireUK again is not on my agenda.. unless he came up with the original stuff but I sure wouldn't buy bulk there.
I do see people in his thread saying it's good gear, but as I mentioned before, most of those people don't have a reference point.
I think I had a VERY good reference point because, I had used BM's 70% batch, I had also used Fireuk's 2 previous batches which were something like 70-80%.. but I must point out that they are different in effect where his was more of a cleaner high. I'm sorry to those who just received shit from him from day one. That was no the same product, it wasn't just cut it was just some other bad speed.
I haven't tried CC stuff but I imagine CC might have like, the stronger clean speed of fireuk untampered with.
I guess the upshot to all of this is I have been completely clean of drugs, uppers / downers and even coffee( not that I drink it) for almost a month.
I mean 0.5mg of xanax was enough to put me to bed after using BM last night. Normally I'd need a good 1-2mg.
TLDR +Questions:
I do not advocate anyone buying from FireUk. he did not respond to my long message of "friendly" advice ( I never requested refunds)
If he wants to rebuild his rep then he better get his product back that was good and then I want to hear from people who have experience .. People who have used BM & CC stuff.. not random streeet walkers who aer used to 10% speed with 90% caffeine.
WHEN IS CAPECRUSADER BACK WITH MORE PRODUCT? I deposited to order from him but went BM as he was the only legitimate seller left. Also I see BM bumped his prices due to no competition.
What are you guyses resting heartrates on BM stuff?
Good luck everyone and happy hunting.
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BM needs some more WEEKS to release the dextro batch.
Am pretty excited.
I'm going have to agree with you there. Hopefully it has less bodyload than his sulfate. I've been really interesting in trying legitimate amphetamine ADHD meds such as dexedrine/vyansee/adderall.. but the prices on here are just absolutely ludicrous. It’s what, 12 for a fkn cap of adderall? That’s just robbery.
Even the benzo prices are horrific so don’t buy benzos on here, they’re not dangerously illicit. I get my benzos shipped from UK and they are 5-10x cheaper- ships instantly, come with tracking number free shipping. To buy any pharms on silk roads is like throwing money in the pond.
If anyone needs good quality benzos (please, stop wasting $12 on 10x10mg valiums on here) I can recommend a source (I’m not a seller or affiliated, I just don’t like seeing people getting ROBBED by these asshole benzo vendors on here). Too bad he doesn't sell amph racemics but he'd get some heat for that I guess.
Sometimes it's tempting to just buy a bulk of benzos, sell em here and undercut every single damn benzo ripoff on SR (they all are, the prices are a fucking joke) by 50% but I don’t need the job……
hold on, posting a write up on downers in general.
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For what it's worth, as I am quite a noob on the "amphetamine scene", I just wanted to thank BoyMaster for his great professionalism and helpfulness. I just received my 5g order in less than 6 days to Central Europe (including a WE and 1 day Holiday), so that was fast. As far as the product is concerned, it does look just like on the pictures :). I'll eventually update once I try it if anybody is interested in my "very novice opinion" (I tried amphetamines just once before from aakoven some 6 months ago, so I guess that's not really a "recommendation" from what I read here on the forums)...
be cautious - it is probably 5-20 times stronger then the crap you got from aakoven.
@ohnoes123: I haven't tried CC's yet, so I cannot compare... But I studied like 4 weeks on BM's last batch, and do his current batch 1-2 times a week just for the fun (multiple lines around 50 mg). Increased heartbeat for sure, but I don't get palpitations unless I smoke or even worse smoke a joint, the latter feels like its killing me (have to lay down).
How much did you take anyway? Maybe it was just too much after a break ::).
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ohnoes123, yes, BM's gives me pretty huge body load :( It's like I've been running a marathon or like I'm fearing anything or like the feeling when you're holding your breath for a few seconds - just feels not healthy or natural and ruins the positive effects :( BUT, too much body load on CC's either. I'm beginning to somehow dislike speed. Thought the positive effects were much more pronounced on pure amphetamine, but it's not worth the side effects for me. But there's still d-amph to be tested.
I would indeed be very interested in cheap Xanax. Could you please write me a PM or post it on here? Thank you very much.
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Alright here's some of my advice for all of you who value SLEEP and would like to lessen the unhealthy effects of speed - which you should, because you can still remain relatively healthy while using amphetamine- and sleep is one of the key points.. The best thing to do would be not to use amphetamines… but amphetamine has helped me so much in my life I simply have to use it. I am addicted? Yes but willingly so. Could I quit any time I wanted to? No. I was able to meet the love of my life because it allowed me to be conversational. I EXCELLED at my “profession” and I guess it’s a paradox that drug use has actually led someone to wealth (No not in a dealer way, I have no criminal affiliations).
PLAN FOR SLEEPING AND NEVER CRASHING.
Living with amphetamine-
This is mainly my experiences with high purity amphetamine sulphate & Dexedrine. I have tried methamphetamine, it was a crazy high but I recognized immediately that it’s not an enabling drug you can look to use to improve your life… and mainly recreational and damn dangerous. It’s a drug that will wreck 95% of its addicts or more (nonfactual guestimate). This guide can however apply to meth as well- but I haven’t tried it with meth. Perhaps even to other stimulants, but the regular amphetamines have been tried and tested for so long.
DISCLAIMER: This should only be tested by people who have DISCIPLINE. If you use GABA-agonists too frequently you're in for hell. If you use them responsibly you are going to be able to live with your speed "addiction" in a much healthier manner. I'm not saying taking an extra drug is healthier but it is less unhealthy than crashing for hours and doing long binges- with high blood pressure and heart rate. If you have previous GABA agonist addiction problems, don’t read. If you have a current addiction problem due to your stimulant use then this might help ramp it down a little.
Also, I’m not an expert... but who really is when it comes to this? Don’t take my words as fact, but try to take some positives out of it and form your own opinion. Hopefully there’s something to your benefit in the following text.
This is all based on my experience and what works for me. I’m not telling anyone they should try it but I’m simply offering something that did work for me. If you do decide to test this then ask yourself if you have the fortitude to just QUIT if you’re spiralling or starting to feel rapid tolerance and urges to take no rest days. Anyways I’ve a little trick I use for this I’ll mention later.
If you do amphetamine, you should have thienodiazepine /benzodiazepines around. You can also buy Phenibut on eBay which is legal. To do stimulants and not have CNS depressants around (if you can use them responsibly) is like speeding without a seatbelt.
NOW WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN,
so own to the downers.
Etizolam on here is like what, something stupid; like $15 for 10x 1mg?
Etizolam is a LEGAL thienodiazepine drug. It's very similar to Xanax in fact... except that it is completely legal you can get 100 for 30-35 quid.... compare that to the prices here. Joke.
Anyways here’s my advice on how to use GABA-agonists efficiently:
Phenibut is a GABA-B agonist with a small and peculiar dopamine action. GBL/GHB/Alcohol are also GABA-B agonists but they work very differently.
I have found Phenibut EXCELLENT for speed comedowns and promote great deep refreshing sleep. What else is its mild & odd dopaminergic effects completely nullify and shutout any residual speed effects. It’s quite astonishing, it’s like it just completely overrides things.
The problem with Phenibut as opposed GABA-A agonists (Xanax/Valium) is that if you use it for 3-4 days in a row you'll have a mildly agitating WD from it for a few days, or you might not. Meanwhile most people can use benzos for a few days longer before experiencing dependency. Some people don't. I've used it for 10-12 days in a row and just felt lethargic for a bit but enough to put me out of commission. It has a similar WD to benzos in general albeit milder.
Phenibut does take 2-3 hours to take effect though so you got to time it for when you want to crash and sleep. Personally I've taken it to comedown from the speed and felt rather nice- completely restores your appetite to the point where you could eat a lasagne.
ALSO IT'S COMPLETELY LEGAL. You can buy it on EBAY.
If you want to know more Google Phenibut. In fact, Google every substance I mention and read up on them before you try. Stay smart. Gather opinions, this is what works for me. Therefor it’s subjective but I am confident it will work for *MOST* people.
Here's the real point though:
Phenibut is not cross tolerant with GABA-A agonists (benzodiazepines, your Valium, Xanax’s). It is speculated in super high doses Phenibut has some mild GABA-A agonist action but I've never noticed and you don't need super high doses to go to sleep.
In fact I've gotten addicted to Phenibut a few times ( short term 2-4 weeks) while I was using nothing else.. and I'd just take a benzo for 3-4 days to completely nullify the WD- as you know 3-4 days of benzo use won’t cause dependency so I was scotch clear. I’m a person who’s VERY aware of the timings of GABA-agonists and the horrors of WDing from them. I only know myself and how frequently I can use without suffering any ill after effects. Something I learnt through trial and error, but also reading and seeing many horror stories on it.
Anyhow, If you're like me and you don't particularly feel like doing 48+++ hour speed binges because "you can't sleep" but is afraid of benzo addiction (which is fucking hell). When I use speed I only use it for 6-8 hour stretches. This means I have half a day or more to do stuff beneficial to my health such as working out, EATING HEALTHILY before it starts and not masturbating for hours (not that I do that frequently but it has happened on occasion… dopamine- come on!) Also, it helps keep your tolerance down. There should be no problem turning into a skeleton just because you just amphetamines. No need to take them from morning until bed. Cardio exercise (running/cycling) will do wonders for your heart… but you can’t do any of that while ON speed unless you’re gunning for a heart attack. SO get it in during the day and let the fun commence in the evening.
So, the trick is to GAMEPLAN your amphetamine use. Say you use amphetamine 6 days a week which is a bit heavy but, if you sleep and look after yourself fine then you can get away with it. Personally I use 2 days on 1 day off 2 days on 1 day off.
SUMMARY of the GABA-agonists (CNS depressants)
GABA-A
Etizolam- similar to Xanax in its half-life and effects (My estimation from experience is that 1mg Etizolam = 0.7mg Xanax)- it does create a certain euphoria too that I never felt with anything but rohypnol/flunitrazepam. It's a thienodiazepine drug which is a benzodiazepine relative, but there's really not much difference *I have found I experienced milder WD’s from Etizolam than regular benzos- but they still suck and you shouldn’t go there.
This has short half-life which is what you want from a benzo with speed use. You don’t want to wake up the next day with a depressant in your system if you're going to use speed again.
IT IS A LEGAL SUBSTANCE RIGHT NOW. So that's a big upside not having to worry about more illicit substances. In fact I keep one in my wallet just in case someone needs it, or I need it. Emergency ETI I call it.
The price is around 30gbp/50 USD for 100x 1mg. I'm sure you've seen Etizolam listings here on SR... Don't buy a legal substance on SR on here it's like TWICE+ the price. Again, downers on SR= RIPOFF prices.
Scheduled pharms, easily obtainable outside of SR at low risk. At least in Europe LE / customs don’t really go bananas on personal use amounts of prescription drugs:
Alprazolam (Xanax) -
The weapon of choice, comes on very quickly especially if dissolved under tongue. Etizolam takes about an hour for full effects, bit quicker on empty stomach but Xanax kicks in twice as fast.
I have read about people who say it has dulled their speed effects the day after, I don’t find this the case for me but
Diazepam (Valium)
I believe they treat stimulant overdoses with this as first action IV'd. I however think this is a bad benzo to use if you’re not overdosing like a dummy (unless emergency). The half-life is ridiculously long which you don't really want because the drug accumulates in your system.
If you did happen to OD and can't get to an ER quickly then you should chew some of these up for sure... but if you're the type to OD on shit then you're probably not reading harm reduction at all and you should quit using AMPHETAMINE!
Of course there’s a plethora of other benzodiazepines that might be even better suited, I just mentioned to two most popular ones along with
Then there are Z-drugs they effect GABA too but I don't think they're as efficient and wear off very quickly and don’t do much for potential anxiety.. I would only use them if I had nothing else.
GABA-B:
Phenibut is incredibly cheap as well, you can buy a tub of 100g for next to nothign on ebay, really depending on your tolerances - 800mg-1.2g is enough to nullify a speed crash and let you sleep.
Phenibut: Again, this is completely legal so no worries about LE and you can buy it cheap as shit on eBay. Keep in mind that this IS cross tolerant with Alcohol. Promotes deep long refreshing sleep. and has an odd mild dopaminergic action which cancels/overrides amphetamine's dopamine activity. Which is a plus.
Phenibut addiction does however catch on quicker than benzo addiction. You could take a normal amount of benzos every day for 5 days and not suffer WD but you just shouldn't play with that fire. GABA-A /B withdrawals can be a lot worse than heroin WD's. The trick is to juggle it.
Alcohol? no. It's just dirty and won't give you a good night sleep. Might compel you to just do more speed. The GHB’s and GBL’s are much too heavy to be used so I won’t touch on those.
MY ROUTINE:
I don't start using amphetamine until I've had my breakfast, lunch workout and dinner. Then I've got 6-8 hours of limitless :) Unless it's a Saturday in which case, party on. Just don’t do a two in a row please.
I use a good multivitamin and omega 3 every day such as NOW Foods or *Animal Pak (except the milk thistle pills- they protect the liver but kind of bounces the drugs out. Don’t buy the garbage centrum/centra multivitamins. Buy a good strong multivitamin. Animal pak is a bit expensive and designed for weight training but I have never been sick while on it. NOW foods offer great cheap multivitamin packed of high amounts compared to the regular scam multis that give you 100% rda which is less than what is required for certain vitamins to have a true benefit.
Arguably the most important vitamin is Vitamin D3. 2000-4000ui. usually you get it from sunlight believe it or not but this is something most people are deficient in. helps with so many functions.
Just Google these, check their ingredients and amounts of vitamins. But for spaghetti meatball monster’s sake get on a good multivitamin and omega 3. Also look into magnesium- this is very helpful for your blood pressure. Speculatively it also keeps amphetamine tolerance down but I haven’t read into it.
MY SCHEDULE:
Day 1: speed + 1mg Xanax takes the crash out
Day 2: 1.5g of Phenibut (You’ll have to find out your Phenibut dose on your own it varies differently person from person. 1.5g might make some people sick but I have tolerance to it, despite having no dependency)- keep in mind to time it so you take it about 2.5 hours before you crash- it takes long to kick in but also lasts long- which gives you beautiful sleep and a nice feeling on waking.
Day 3: REST DAY – From active substances. I usually feel pretty great waking up here because I get an afterglow effect from the phenibut and a deep 8 hours of sleep. So I’m able to carry on the day quite well drug free.
+ supplements: l- tyrosine l-theanine (to be honest I’m not sure whether I prefer DL-phenylalanine to l-tyrosine.. and I can’t vouche for their efficiency. My layman understand is L-tyrosine converts into the stuff amphetamine blows out. I’m not well studied in this area maybe someone else can chip in.
Day 4: speed + 1.5mg etizolam for sleep at a normal time :)
Day 5: speed + 1.5g phenibut
Day 6: rest phenylalanine and l-theanine for sleep. (again might be unnecessary, I’m not a 100% on these.. the “science” is that tyrosine n phenylalanine gets converted to dopamine eventually, which you want if you’re using dopaminergic substances . I can’t speak for the benefits truly though.
Day 7: speed + 1mg Xanax.
As you can see I separate the GABA-A and B agonists. At this level of use I avoid dependency and tolerance gain. You could just use the Xanax or Etizolam (if you want to keep ur pharm use legal, unless you have a legitimate benzo script but then you’re probably already dependant on benzos so scratch the phenibut)
THIS IS ALL A VERY FINE SUBJECTIVE LINE THOUGH. This is what works for me. I don’t do this week in week out- but I have done it for 3 weeks in a row once and well, I ran out of product… After this I had absolutely no withdrawals and could carry on find. Took a few weeks then went back on. But you should definitely consider taking weeks off. Maintain discipline, it’s easy to spiral out with drugs. Most people do, but most people don’t THINK. If you’ve read this far then you probably think about your use enough to consider how you could be more responsible with it.
Some people could stretch this; others will have to reduce the days. I have no medical background. I am just very experienced in using these drugs while being a health-nut. I know. IF I was a true health nut I wouldn’t use speed… but the benefits of my amphetamine use FAR outweighs the negatives by so much. I would be a loser without but I’m probably a rare case where amphetamine helps rather than destroys. I should point out also that I’m not a pure recreational user. I mean, I do feel quite good and motivated using. On the 1 day of the weekend I go out to party I am recreational for sure! But without amphetamine I would be constantly depressed and lonely because it opened my social life to a whole new level and turned me from an sinking into introversion and to an extrovert (except on my rest days, nothing wrong with being an introvert as long as you don’t box yourself in!)
I can say this is a lot better than taking a benzos every time for sleep after speed if you’re a frequent user. Forget about the amphetamine addiction – GABA AGONIST WITHDRAWAL IS HELL. Never use Phenibut more than twice a week, preferably once a week at most. Also you MIND that god damned benzodiazepine use because it’s walking a tight rope. I can’t stress this enough.
Also, Phenibut works differently in different people. It is a wonder drug for me- used responsibly. 2 days a week I can use for however long I want without suffering any ill effects / WD.
You should try the drugs independently first to see how you react. And of course, do NOT take the downers at the SAME time as your uppers. It’s not necessarily dangerous but you’re just counter acting the effects. This is strictly crash and BINGE prevention.
Problem with unhealthy speed use is NOT sleeping.
Furthermore, your appetite should return as soon as the downers kick in, HAVE ADECENT MEAL BEFORE YOU FALL ASLEEP or a few bananas and a protein shake.
DISCLAIMER AGAIN:
Use your own damn judgement. Don’t just listen to some random guy a forum. Every person is different. If you do something similar as to what I’m doing it could go HORRIBLY wrong or it might just work. In fact I shouldn’t call this advice. More of a detail on how I treat my use to live well relative to me. Feel free to criticize and question anything. Also, if you’re an amphetamine user you should definitely get cardiovascular health check-ups.
Also, I’m interested if there’s any more measures besides the supplements I take to help with potential toxicity of amphetamine use.
IF you’re currently just a weekend warrior or, only tried speed once or twice… please don’t follow my regiment blindly. It might lead you into a shitty hole you can’t get out of (mainly in reference to the GABA-agonists). I can do this because I know myself, I’m in my late 20s healthy and have never had an out of control addiction. What I do confess is that I will use amphetamines (NOT METH EVER)
to a degree for most of my remaining life or until the day when I’ve accomplished my life goals and simply don’t need the assistance this drug gives me.
(I guess you can tell I ate 40mg of BM speed just now).........
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ohnoes123,
Your info is much appreciated. I am also a novice wanting to use amp occasionally but I tend to lose a whole day just recovering from one evenings indulgence. I will find some of the phenibut that you mention and give it a try along with some more vitamins. I also sampled some of BM's speed, about 75mgs total taken in three 25mg doses each a couple hours apart. I most certainly enjoyed myself but the next day was a complete loss. I like the speed but the recovery price seems high. Also would like to say that BM was a pleasure to deal with and shipping was impressively fast.
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I just wanted to add a word of thanks to all that are sharing their knowledge and experience in this thread in helping determine safe dosing amounts and the attributes of the various vendors. This seems to me of utmost importance and makes this SilkRoad experince unique.
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ohnoes, thank you so much for that post, really good information, def going to get some phenibut.
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The speed is strong with this one!
Alright here's some of my advice for all of you who value SLEEP
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(I guess you can tell I ate 40mg of BM speed just now).........
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I am also a novice wanting to use amp occasionally but I tend to lose a whole day just recovering from one evenings indulgence.
Nature's build in prevention of addiction :)
The speed is strong with this one!
You could say that again! ;D
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Anyone else had any experience with phenibut?
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I hear it gives a really nasty hangover and tolerance builds up really quick..
No personal experience tho
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Oh shit that was much longer than I thought lol.
Strangely I don't enjoy snorting BM's stuff ( burn is nothing, I like it when it burns!)
but I just get odd effects and heavier bodyload than when I use even a bigger dose orally. Today I have less bodyload than yesterday anyhow.. but I'd really like an amphetamine where I can stay below 100 bpm. Gah why did fireuk have mess that good shit up.
At least I got some real speed this time but I don't fancy going out dancing on this.
Tolerance does indeed build up rather quickly on phenibut. Russian cosmonauts have it onboard hehe, when they need a tranquilizer that doesn't make them too drowsy, even though phenibut does promote very good sleep.
I have never experienced a nasty hangover from phenibut except when the first few times I used it and took way too much (like 2.5 g with little tolerance, I didn't throw up but I felt sick and had to lay in bed- kinda like drinking too much).
What I do experience is a very nice afterglow with it. They say the half-life is short but I really think the residual effects last quite a while. You can wake up after taking it in the evening and feel happy nice and calm- and I'm a horrible morning person. Pretty much all benzos give me a bit of a rough waking up and phenibut is the only thing that has me sleeping for 8 hours solid without waking up.
I think people who write abuot "nasty hangovers" are rare reactions or people who just take too muh because "meh it's just a supplement / natural herb!" .. well it's not, it's a drug.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenibut
"In chemical structure, phenibut is a phenyl derivative of GABA. Although the calming action is similar to other GABA agonists, phenibut binds the GABAB metabotropic receptor, the same site responsible for the sedative effects of baclofen (the para-chloro derivative of phenibut) and γ-hydroxybutyrate (GHB), although GHB also acts at the GHB receptor.[5] There is dispute in the literature about whether or not Phenibut binds to the GABAA ionotropic receptor, which is responsible for the actions of the benzodiazepines, barbiturates, z-drugs, and for some of the effects of ethanol. According to Allikmetz and Ryage (1983) and Shulgina (1986) phenibut does bind to the GABAA receptor,[2] but according to Lapin (2001) it does not.[1] In the case of the former, it is argued that the GABAA binding only occurs at higher concentrations.[2]
The literature that supports the nootropic effects of phenibut also suggest it elicits tranquilizing effects,[1] reduction of stress and anxiety, improvement of impaired sleep, and the potentiation of the effects of tranquilizers, narcotics, and neuroleptics. It is also suggested to have an anticonvulsant effect,"
"Furthermore, phenibut has been shown to enhance levels of dopamine.[1]"
I used to take it just without anything else because the effects made me more productiev and pleasant feeling. Also i was able to run for a lot longer without getting tired and lift heavier weights. Strange. It relaxes the mind puts you in a good mood... but that feeling goes away if you use it for more than a few days and then tolerance rises but as I mentioned... do not take phenibut moer than once or twice spaced out per week
I'm sure there are lots of "horror" stories on google with dumbfucks buying a "herbal natural sleep aid!" or someone who was using a weight training recovery supplement for months and getting addicted to it.
Originally I tried to use it to see if it potentiated a batch of speed I had but it just dulled it / nullified it pretty much, although I felt better than baseline I wasn't speeding anymore... so I got the idea to just use it for comedowns. I know how long I can use it without catching a WD and I never had any health problems with it. What's dumb is a lot of the big jars you can buy on amazon and ebay (yes you can buy a GABA-B agonist with dopamine effect on fucking amazon lol).. is that they say in small print "take for a maximum of 5 days in a row with a 2 day washout period". Maybe if it's your first time using it you can get away with 5 days in a row (keeping it at smaller dosage ranges) but I bet there'd be a minor WD, barely noticable perhaps nothing but mild irritability for a few days.. but every time you WD from a gaba agonist there's like a permanent effect where in the future your wd's will get worse and worse. once or twice a week (spaced out) keeps you safe from WD always I think.
I can say this for a fact is that I have never "lost a day" to amphetamine. Everyone is different but I've read loads of other people who get this type of afterglow from phenibut.. I don't know what it's from, perhaps it's the crazy deep sleep or something.. but yeah I really needed a solution because taking benzos every damn day you've taken speed is reallllllyyy a ticket to one of the most notoriously horrible addictions you can have. It's ironic because benzos offer no real recreational effects (hehe maybe roofies). Yet benzo WD from long term use is worse and more dangerous than heroin withdrawal.
To me benzos and phenibut are my magical little fixers though. I have experienced mild WD's from both and that was enough to give me discipline to not fuck around with them. They are perfectly safe and there's no better for eliminating a crash or anxiety. You can use xanax for like a week in normal doses and be alright but I'd rather just alternate.
If I didn't have xanax/etizolam and phenibut I wouldn't use stimulants plain and simple.. shit I keep benzos around during periods I don't use speed too.. If I feel stressed and need to calm the fk down. Fuck emotions, I'm not some woman! :)
Oh god damnit, HOW DO I TYPE SUCH LONG posts, I've only been at the keyboard for like 2 minutes.
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anyone tried out jalapeno speed listing?
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ohnoes123, is it true that phenibut needs about 2 hours to become active?
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I just want to chime in and again praise Arigolo's Canadian speed. When taken orally the meth that it contains is not going to be as adictive as smoking it or IVing it. I think the fact that meth is commonly taken by these quick-acting methods is the reason for it's much higher addiction rates in comparison to the widely available conventional L- a D-amphetamines.
Now I use both meth- and dextro-amphetamine, with a preference for dex. I prefer dex because the hangover if I binge for 3 days is almost nothing, whereas for meth, the after effects are a bit more irritating. IMO/IME I think that dex > meth > Adderall > racemic (assuming all are orally or nasally ingested). I still buy 0.5-1g of meth for myself every 2-3 months because it's a bit cheaper and more recreational as has been said. Another benefit of meth is it's lack of bodyload (also another contributor to it's higher incidence of addiction, along with quick dosing methods and stronger seretonergic activity).
My current amphetamine habit usually has me taking amphetamiens 1 week every month for studying, and throughout that week I'll take 3 high doses for euphoria. I also take etizolam during these weeks to help me sleep, with my goal to not skip more than 1 night of sleep in a row. From most commonly used to least this is the form of amph that I take: Dextroamphetamine spansules (I absolutely love the steady plasma levels this offers, amph/m-amph pills (Arigolo is my preferred vendor), and lastly Vyvanse and meth. Both occasionally because of their price and addiction potential, respectively. Vyvanse is great for studying and not very good or cost-efficient for euphoria for more than 2 days of constant use (even with sleep). The meth is cheap and when moderated and dosed orally or nasally, I have not craved it that much. In fact I crave dex spansules twice as much as meth, on a day of my use.
YMMV. This is my subjective amphetamine use/result for both studying and recreation. I make sure not to order enough to last for more than 10 days, and take at least 2 weeks off after that period to lower my tolerance which makes amphetamine far less enjoyable. This wash-out period is also helpful to stop benzo use, which I was addicted to in the past (~100mg Valium/day for about 2 years). That was a horrible addiction and I don't want to repeat that cycle; benzo's have their practical use and that's what I use them for. I always have hundreds of doses of benzos around with no interest in them except to counter stim use.
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That's reasonable since you don't use it very frequently. one of the big nono's for me with meth (at the rate I would use it) is that it also has synergistic action.. Some please correct me if I'm from but serotonin + dopamine release is one of the things that makes it more neurotoxic right? I only skimmed read trough on what things cause neurotoxicity, So I'm not sure, I do know it created bad bodyload... which i didn't pay attention to once the fkn masturbation marathon started.
HAha it'salso why I don't use it, sexual en devours become way too compelling for me on meth. A
I would love to have a good source for dextro-amphetamine (boymaster in the grapevine) as I've only tried it once. Vyvansee would also be intersted but I refuse to give me money to the price jackers on silk road.
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ohnoes123, is it true that phenibut needs about 2 hours to become active?
If you have an empty stomach you can feel it maybe mildly after 1-1.5 hours but 2-3 hours to reach a peak.
For me it is oddly helpful that it takes a while because I tend to do a last little line at the same time I take the phenibut. In some bizarre way it helps me, it's strangely pleasing to think "ok just one last bump".. and that actually being the last bump of the night.
I rarely snort since I find insufulation a bit random and harsh in effects personally. The ROA doesn't work very consistently for me, since it's shorter duration
I suggest buying some, it's cheap as fuck anyhow. Just make sure it's ONLY phenibut and not some ridiculous herbal mix with valerian root n shit that has a trivial effect on gaba-a.
Hopefully it's not against rules to link to amazon.
cheap 100g tub... you gotta weight but it's not exactly a huge shore since you're only taking one dose once or twice a week.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=phenibut+xr
Still I prefer Phenibut XT, it's capsuled (the less powder/crystal form shit I'e to deal with the betteR), costs almost twice as for twice as little. much for 90x 500mg capsules.. but hey that lasts ong. if it doesn't last long it's because you get addicted :)
http://www.amazon.com/Serious-Nutrition-Solutions-Phenibut-capsules/dp/B004JZLRCW/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1349313692&sr=8-3-fkmr1&keywords=phenibut+xr
also you can buy non brand stuff probably cheaper on ebay that is same quality but meh, it's only 18 dollars
again, use phenibut at your own peril. I can't fucking stresss it enough, DO NOT EXCEED 1-2 days per week proper spacing. I know there are rare cases of people taking ot for a yearr every day and suffer minute wd's.. perhaps some can get away with 3+ times a week... but why? I've had several short term phen wd's and just 2-4 weeks of use made me feel very unpleasant and highly agitated/ bored for almost a week.
Tbh this isn't just a speed comedown assistance. The reason I got addicted to it before is beacuse it made me more outgoing, STRONGER, more motivated and thanks to the odd dopamine activity u cant place your fingers on, it gave me some insane libido and ability to become horny... anyways, you can accomplish this shit without becoming addicted to a soviet union drug tehy send into space and treat brain damages with.
Why the fuck can't I ever type short messages. I type 110 words per minute but come on... boymaster.
Bodyload wasn't so bad today (blood presure seemed normal and no heart palpitations.. but i did have the same tachycardiai so.. whenver CApecrusader comes back or BM starts serving dexedrine at reasonable prices (unlike the other jokes)/.. I will order both.
I want to live long-ish, i know drugs can shorten lifespans with accumulative damgage but whatt the hell, imagine 50 years from now what crazy drugs there will be to try:) how abuot an amphetamine with zero side effects!
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That's reasonable since you don't use it very frequently. one of the big nono's for me with meth (at the rate I would use it) is that it also has synergistic action.. Some please correct me if I'm from but serotonin + dopamine release is one of the things that makes it more neurotoxic right? I only skimmed read trough on what things cause neurotoxicity, So I'm not sure, I do know it created bad bodyload... which i didn't pay attention to once the fkn masturbation marathon started.
HAha it'salso why I don't use it, sexual en devours become way too compelling for me on meth. A
I would love to have a good source for dextro-amphetamine (boymaster in the grapevine) as I've only tried it once. Vyvansee would also be intersted but I refuse to give me money to the price jackers on silk road.
Somehow dex causes more sexual desire than meth for me. Serotonin has always gave me problem with impotence/low libido, when on SSRI's or MDMA (except the dopamine release in MDMA doesn't completely nullify my sexual desire). Yes the neurotoxicity is definitely of concern with meth. This effect is more pronounced when binging occurs; resulting in many nights of not sleeping (this will occur with regular amphetamine as well, tho not nearly as bad). Also acute, high doses of meth cause neurotoxicity as well, as does amph, albeit with less of an effect. With meth, I don't get a body load at all. I only get bodyload from Adderall, racemic amphetamine, and adulterated speed pills. I would expect poorly made meth or adulterated meth would cause bodyload; possibly severely. That's why I liek the road. You would not see me buying meth from a street dealer because I know you can cut it with shit to mark-up profits by hundreds of %'s and still have an acceptable product. (MIMM is my source).
Vyvanse prices are insane on the road. Ibuy bulk for steep discounts, or otherwise I wouldn't buy any. Many vendors of it do not realize that out of whatever weight the pill is only x*0.3 (x= dose) dextrroamphetamine (so the dose of lisdexamphetamine is approximately only 30% dex), and the rest is lysine. This means that you should do the standard pharmaceutical speed pricing which is $0.75-1 for 1mg of dex. so a 70mg Vyvanse capsule should sell for no more than $20. I buy bulk for $15/ea+ shipping on the 70s. If you're interested, SuperFocus prefers bulk and is great with negotiating (as am I :P). He also has some adderall at the moment I believe.
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For what our opinion is worth.. BoyMaster's stuff is niiiiiice. My other half bought 2 grams which arrived very quickly to the US, within one week. It was vac sealed with professional looking labels. It's whitish/tan or even kind of peach, dry/rocky, with a pretty strong smell. He bought it as an adderall replacement and has been working on homework and other activities all day on just ~12mg oral and a ~4mg bump about 1 hour later. He's very pleased w/ his ability to focus and motivation to work.
Since my super awesome coke didn't arrive today, I decided to snort ~14 mg and ate ~5mg an hour later. I'm craving for more but am happy doing little tasks like writing this review. The high is nice and not jittery at all (I know these are small doses.) I have the urge to chat with my roommates while trolling the forums. I think another 10mg would be really fun but don't want to ruin our "little taste". I'm actually very pleased with the results of such a small amount b/c we've been using meth about once every 1-2 weeks and were worried amphs wouldn't be enough for us. Hope this was helpful to someone.
TbirdSpoon
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anyone tried out jalapeno speed listing?
speedie got a sample from jalapeno (directly) and is getting it tested. I'm kinda interested as well. But as long as BM or CC are available, he needs a really good offer to get me to buy elsewhere. :P
btw if I soak my floor in marquis reagent it will probably transform into a very tripy pattern with red circles :D
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I just want to chime in and again praise Arigolo's Canadian speed. When taken orally the meth that it contains is not going to be as adictive as smoking it or IVing it. I think the fact that meth is commonly taken by these quick-acting methods is the reason for it's much higher addiction rates in comparison to the widely available conventional L- a D-amphetamines.
Now I use both meth- and dextro-amphetamine, with a preference for dex. I prefer dex because the hangover if I binge for 3 days is almost nothing, whereas for meth, the after effects are a bit more irritating. IMO/IME I think that dex > meth > Adderall > racemic (assuming all are orally or nasally ingested). I still buy 0.5-1g of meth for myself every 2-3 months because it's a bit cheaper and more recreational as has been said. Another benefit of meth is it's lack of bodyload (also another contributor to it's higher incidence of addiction, along with quick dosing methods and stronger seretonergic activity).
My current amphetamine habit usually has me taking amphetamiens 1 week every month for studying, and throughout that week I'll take 3 high doses for euphoria. I also take etizolam during these weeks to help me sleep, with my goal to not skip more than 1 night of sleep in a row. From most commonly used to least this is the form of amph that I take: Dextroamphetamine spansules (I absolutely love the steady plasma levels this offers, amph/m-amph pills (Arigolo is my preferred vendor), and lastly Vyvanse and meth. Both occasionally because of their price and addiction potential, respectively. Vyvanse is great for studying and not very good or cost-efficient for euphoria for more than 2 days of constant use (even with sleep). The meth is cheap and when moderated and dosed orally or nasally, I have not craved it that much. In fact I crave dex spansules twice as much as meth, on a day of my use.
YMMV. This is my subjective amphetamine use/result for both studying and recreation. I make sure not to order enough to last for more than 10 days, and take at least 2 weeks off after that period to lower my tolerance which makes amphetamine far less enjoyable. This wash-out period is also helpful to stop benzo use, which I was addicted to in the past (~100mg Valium/day for about 2 years). That was a horrible addiction and I don't want to repeat that cycle; benzo's have their practical use and that's what I use them for. I always have hundreds of doses of benzos around with no interest in them except to counter stim use.
Thanks for explaining a little bit more about meth. And I am very happy that I am your favorite vendor of Meth+Amp pills.
I'd also like to remind you guys that in 3 days I am leaving for a 2 weeks travel into Paris. If you want to have pills you need to order within 2-3 days otherwise I will not ship order until 2 weeks.
During my travel, I will continue to take orders, but none will be shipped until I get back on october 21.
And regicide, thanks alot again.
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Would anybody be interested in racemic methamphetamine?
CC
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PM sent, CC!
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Would anybody be interested in racemic methamphetamine?
CC
There's another thread for meth ;) Not that much people in here are interested in meth. But pure Meth is more available than pure amph.
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Would anybody be interested in racemic methamphetamine?
CC
There's another thread for meth ;) Not that much people in here are interested in meth. But pure Meth is more available than pure amph.
Does the meth on SR every actually get tested? Pure properly synthesized racemic meth would probably blow dextroamphetamine away.. And it would be cheaper.. Just saying..
CC
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I got a sample from Mr jalapeno for free for testing.
Me and my girlfriend did test it by ourselves and we were both not very impressed.
So I sent him a mail about our findings and the result was that I get a new sample.
His words were that he had changed the kitchen.
So when I receive it in time I will bring it to the lab next week together with some stuff of boymaster which is definitely good but I and I think we all are curious of an objective test result from a lab.
speedie
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+1 everything speedie. once again, thanks for testing! :)
I am anxiously awaiting BM's results 8)
@CC: meth? tested? on SR? doubt it.
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Would anybody be interested in racemic methamphetamine?
CC
Did you happen to find some methylamine lying around? :)
I'd buy some racemic, it would be interesting to see how big the difference is from dextromethamphetamine (adjusted for dose of course).
edit: 100 posts! 8)
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Happy 100!!!
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Does the meth on SR every actually get tested? Pure properly synthesized racemic meth would probably blow dextroamphetamine away.. And it would be cheaper.. Just saying..
CC
isn't racemic meth so called biker meth, which from what I read is very jittery and lacks the euphoria and cleanness of traditional meth?
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Does the meth on SR every actually get tested? Pure properly synthesized racemic meth would probably blow dextroamphetamine away.. And it would be cheaper.. Just saying..
CC
isn't racemic meth so called biker meth, which from what I read is very jittery and lacks the euphoria and cleanness of traditional meth?
Racemic means 50% less dextromethamphetamine, which would probably result in less euphoria per unit of weight. If you adjust the dose (take twice the amount) you'll get the same euphoric effect as with regular non-racemic meth, but you'll also get a bunch of levomethamphetamine in your system. This is great news if you have a sinus cold, bad news if you don't like increased vasoconstriction and increased norepinephrine release (jitteryness).
I'm not overly familiar with the levo enantiomer of methamphetamine though, perhaps it's less of a PITA than its' non-methylated counterpart.
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2g. from CC finally arrived! took 17 days, but I'm very happy it finally made it. Also got a gram of polish speed from . I don't think he was mentioned here before. Reviews for both coming in next few days:)
Also I'm waiting for a stack of vitamins/supplements that are supposed to reduce harm from amphetamine use. Will make a thread about that too..
Have a nice weekend, guys!
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Was at the test center and gave some of BM' s speed. Should get the result this evening, so I'm really excited about the result.
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Was at the test center and gave some of BM' s speed. Should get the result this evening, so I'm really excited about the result.
I am still a bit confused about interpreting the test results from the center in Zurich.. When FUKs good batch was tested in Zurich it came in at 92.6% HCL.. and when it was tested in the Netherlands it was exactly the same at 92.6% SULPHATE.. This leads me to believe that the center in Zurich does not actually convert the results to the HCL equivalent but instead they just put HCL on the paper.. Does anybody else have any thoughts on this? Muslix?
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I believe it really is a HCL equivalent, just like the base-equivalent from the Dutch centers. Reasons to believe this: I have seen HCL equivalent used a couple of times, looks like some sort of (EU) standard. They wouldn't write AmphetamineHCL on the result sheet if it wasn't. The HCL would be redundant, it would be extremely confusing - just doesn't make sense and most important scientifically speaking: It is just not correct.
Where is the second dutch testresult?
I'm not overly familiar with the levo enantiomer of methamphetamine though, perhaps it's less of a PITA than its' non-methylated counterpart.
it really is the 'biker meth'. the l-meth enantiomer is legal, available OTC in the states. Only the separated enantoimers (or at least d-meth) form crystals. Racemic meth is probably some crystal-ish(?) powder. end of knowledge.
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!!Urgente!!
BM's current 10g listing used to be 20€/g, so 200€ total. Right?
Because now... some prices were lowered, but the 10g are at 220€, what the..?
IIRC it was announced at 180€, then sold at 200€ (ok, price spike in BTC, I let it slide :P), but now with 220€ it's 40€ more than the original price.
Do. not. like.
edit, me was right as usual:
> 10g----20,30 btc------231,01 USD-----181,08 EUR
That's a 22% increase in price and it can't be blamed on btc spike. Is the stock running out? By now you can buy 20g 50% speed and save a few bucks. Not happy about that. :(
Anyone else with a similar issue? msg me please :)
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it really is the 'biker meth'. the l-meth enantiomer is legal, available OTC in the states. Only the separated enantoimers (or at least d-meth) form crystals. Racemic meth is probably some crystal-ish(?) powder. end of knowledge.
This is correct.. Racemic meth cannot form nice big shards like d-meth can.. It is a powder..
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Where is the second dutch testresult?
The first test was done by flyerzXXXX and the second was done by Caps Lock..
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That's a 22% increase in price and it can't be blamed on btc spike. Is the stock running out? By now you can buy 20g 50% speed and save a few bucks. Not happy about that. :(
Anyone else with a similar issue? msg me please :)
I think it's because there is no competition for BM right now.. FUK has been proven to be a scam or should i rather say he provides a product with inconsistent purity and i have no listings up so who can compete with BM? If you want high quality you have to go to him right now..
The bitcoin fluctuation has nothing to do with it as BMs prices seem to be pegged to the US dollar..
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I am pretty sure it has something to do with that ;) But it sucks if you do calculations on last price, come back and it is +10%. :-[
The prices for 10g and 5g are pretty much the same. A $10 drop or something. It only gets lower at 25g. Strange.
The bitcoin fluctuation has nothing to do with it as BMs prices seem to be pegged to the US dollar..
He initially announced the prices only in BTC. currency prices spiked, one week later he posted the listings with the same BTC he had announced. By then, the 10g were not 180€ anymore, but due to the raise in btc prices it was 200€.
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I was heartbroken that mrfire went sour. that amph was so champagne! pure class.
by the sounds of it BoyM is the way to go.
any tests done on BM gear? is he consistent?
any reg's of BM wanna vouch for them at the moment?
cheers 8)
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Howdy all,
Having hellish comp issues these days. Time for a new one. Received nice 2 grams from CC. Weird how little smell he manages to get after drying so nicely. Almost a little sour smelling maybe think that is the acidity but not that loud cinnamonaldehyde or benzaldehyde smell. Nice clean in the nose and nice draining. I really like it. When will you restock CC? Have any more scraps laying around? I would be interested in the racemic meth version as well. What kind pricing you have in mind? Would you prefer an PM?
Peace and Great Vibes
Hilly
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Hi guys. Feel free to ridicule me to your heart's content if this is a stupid question, but have any of you successfully used speed as a study drug? Adderal/Vyvanse is so damn expensive these days
-Schmuck
^EDIT: I would also be combining with piracetam and choline, if that makes any difference at all
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Hi guys. Feel free to ridicule me to your heart's content if this is a stupid question, but have any of you successfully used speed as a study drug? Adderal/Vyvanse is so damn expensive these days
-Schmuck
^EDIT: I would also be combining with piracetam and choline, if that makes any difference at all
Speed for studying and getting things done is the most common usage. So, yes, many do use it for that matter.
As for BM's prices. Holy shit. It was $33 and he lowered it a few weeks ago to $29. When MrF's and CC's listings disappeared, he adjusted the price to $39. Fuck that. He becomes more and more unsympathetically. And his rating runs down. As for now 97.5%.
He informed us as he lowered the prices but not as he increased them. Yes, demand and supply but still annoying.
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Hey guys just wanna know if anyone has smoked the speed ordered from the likes of BoyMaster or MrFireUK ? I haven't as i usually don't but curious to know if it smokes well ?
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first we were complaining about the very poor speed quality on SR
now we are complaining about the prices (even when they are a bit high) for awesome quality.
if we see it from the economics point of view this is just as normal as it gets. if you have "almost" no other vendor which is selling as good product - you almost have a monopole. BM is telling the price.
of course BM could sell cheaper but he is probably in much more danger as we are.. (cooking product, getting stuff for cooking. , getting coins into cash, etc)
but you should not forget, you get what the fuck you pay for. it wasn't like that in the past. it's a human thing. you are never statisfied
when i first came to this site i was paying around 10 EUR/G and was very happy with that (poor quality). now i pay whatever i need for the best quality speed i ever had in my live. i honestly don't give a fuck. i'm not rich or something. i have a normal 40h/week job and it pays for getting high on the weekends and living etc. which is quite enough.
cheers.
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Hi guys. Feel free to ridicule me to your heart's content if this is a stupid question, but have any of you successfully used speed as a study drug? Adderal/Vyvanse is so damn expensive these days
^EDIT: I would also be combining with piracetam and choline, if that makes any difference at all
It's a very popular study drug and works like a charm if you don't abuse it. Actually, it works pretty well even if you do abuse it :). If you are used to Adderall or Vyvanse you'll probably notice more physical side-effects, but you should be able to substitute them with amphetamine without much of a problem.
Hey guys just wanna know if anyone has smoked the speed ordered from the likes of BoyMaster or MrFireUK ? I haven't as i usually don't but curious to know if it smokes well ?
Smoking amphetamine sulphate is not easy. It's covered under "INHALATION" in the Bluelight Amphetamine FAQ:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/197113-Amphetamine-FAQ
first we were complaining about the very poor speed quality on SR
now we are complaining about the prices (even when they are a bit high) for awesome quality.
if we see it from the economics point of view this is just as normal as it gets. if you have "almost" no other vendor which is selling as good product - you almost have a monopole. BM is telling the price.
of course BM could sell cheaper but he is probably in much more danger as we are.. (cooking product, getting stuff for cooking. , getting coins into cash, etc)
but you should not forget, you get what the fuck you pay for. it wasn't like that in the past. it's a human thing. you are never statisfied
when i first came to this site i was paying around 10 EUR/G and was very happy with that (poor quality). now i pay whatever i need for the best quality speed i ever had in my live. i honestly don't give a fuck. i'm not rich or something. i have a normal 40h/week job and it pays for getting high on the weekends and living etc. which is quite enough.
cheers.
This. I think the current prices are very reasonable considering the level of quality.
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Howdy all,
Having hellish comp issues these days. Time for a new one. Received nice 2 grams from CC. Weird how little smell he manages to get after drying so nicely. Almost a little sour smelling maybe think that is the acidity but not that loud cinnamonaldehyde or benzaldehyde smell. Nice clean in the nose and nice draining. I really like it. When will you restock CC? Have any more scraps laying around? I would be interested in the racemic meth version as well. What kind pricing you have in mind? Would you prefer an PM?
Peace and Great Vibes
Hilly
PM me ;)
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first we were complaining about the very poor speed quality on SR
now we are complaining about the prices (even when they are a bit high) for awesome quality.
I am not complaining (yet :P). I just pointed out that it looks to me like the prices are jumping up and down. That's weird. for every vendor. I never saw him changing prices like that. He used a pricing scheme, where at every listing the gram-price dropped a certain %. Now this is somewhat ruined. This was my point:
I am pretty sure it has something to do with that ;) But it sucks if you do calculations on last price, come back and it is +10%. :-[
The prices for 10g and 5g are pretty much the same. A $10 drop or something. It only gets lower at 25g. Strange.
5 and 10g being almost identical at price/g is strange, he never did that before (afaik). I didn't follow it very closely either.
It looks a bit like a rushed change, so I assumed that maybe it's not BM changing prices at random because he can, but that there might be a reason for that. Which could mean, that it will be reverted if it's just temporary, or the other ones will be adjusted to fit the pricing scheme again. All my previous buys had exactly the price tag I was expecting. Now for the first time it was different, valid enough reason to ask what's going on.
The 10g listing is only very slightly affected, still acceptable, but as I said from it's first appearance to today's price it went up by 40€. That's pretty noteworthy to me. Now I can't be sure that the price stays like this. I agree, it's not all that dramatic but the trend-line points in the drama direction. Some transparency wouldn't hurt, but then again I have not (yet?) asked him directly.
if we see it from the economics point of view this is just as normal as it gets. if you have "almost" no other vendor which is selling as good product - you almost have a monopole. BM is telling the price.
of course BM could sell cheaper but he is probably in much more danger as we are.. (cooking product, getting stuff for cooking. , getting coins into cash, etc)
but you should not forget, you get what the fuck you pay for. it wasn't like that in the past. it's a human thing. you are never statisfied
you are really just looking at one side of the coin. One example: just recently bought gd family acid on here, supposedly it's (one of) the best acid you can get anywhere on the world. It was definitely priced among the cheapest acid on here. So I didn't get what I paid for. Could go into detail about that (fascinating topic, just read another article about it two days ago), but since I am not complaining I won't :P I will though once/if I start complaining. :P
What you said is true only for "old" business models, which were based on greed.
To add some value: HA HA @valentinesmith, you got -1 :P not from me though. 8)
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Price is the best instrument for controlling the amount of sales.
Have you seen our new feedback? it's all caused by small orders (1g and 2g), I lowered the prices weeks ago and so much people started ordering them, but then, let's say that from 100 letters 2 or 3 didn't arrive and buyers evaluated us with 1/5 or 2/5 and it ruined our feedback. Pushing up prices for small orders has reduced their amount drastically.
As about the monopole, our speed market share during the past week was of about 23,2% so we are very far from controlling the market prices. In this market the demand is pretty inelastic so if we push prices up the customers go to another vendor except, of course, our most loyal and beloved customers.
So as you can see, everything in life is cause and effect.
Greets
BM
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Yes, I seem to have been "discouraged"!
I get why those of you living in countries where a gram is 5€ think these prices are crazy.
To me the prices make more sense. When buying 10g from BM the price is around 22€ per gram. Add something like 5-15% in fees (exchanges, mixers, etc) and we end up with around 26€ per gram. This is more or less what I pay for cut-to-shit speed locally. If I adjust the prices to reflect product purity, SR is by far the cheapest option for me.
So I'm not complaining. At all. ;D
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Price is the best instrument for controlling the amount of sales.
Have you seen our new feedback? it's all caused by small orders (1g and 2g), I lowered the prices weeks ago and so much people started ordering them, but then, let's say that from 100 letters 2 or 3 didn't arrive and buyers evaluated us with 1/5 or 2/5 and it ruined our feedback. Pushing up prices for small orders has reduced their amount drastically.
As about the monopole, our speed market share during the past week was of about 23,2% so we are very far from controlling the market prices. In this market the demand is pretty inelastic so if we push prices up the customers go to another vendor except, of course, our most loyal and beloved customers.
So as you can see, everything in life is cause and effect.
Greets
BM
^^This.. When my 1 gram listings were $27.5 i hardly received any orders.. Well i was still new with little feedback so this is understandable.. As soon as i lowered it to $22 i was flooded with orders.. If people could actually look at the actual amount of amphetamine they are getting they would see that paying over $30 for a gram is actually a very very good deal.. My next batch i am preparing is 95%< pure.. I honestly don't see how i could offer such a product for as cheap as most of these other vendors.. Given the mentality of most of the buyers here who opt for a low price rather than the quality i would be better off just cutting the product down to 70% and selling it at $20 a gram.. I won't do this ofcourse.. I am just saying..
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Or maybe separate the company into volkswagen and audi, what do you prefer quality or price? The two are from the same owner but prepared for different customers.
I thought people would appreciate the quality, but reality shows us that the first thing that 60% of customers see is price... Not clever enough to see that 30$ for 95% purity is way cheaper than 10$ for 10%... This will never change.
Greets
BM
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My next batch i am preparing is 95%< pure.. I honestly don't see how i could offer such a product for as cheap as most of these other vendors.. Given the mentality of most of the buyers here who opt for a low price rather than the quality i would be better off just cutting the product down to 70% and selling it at $20 a gram.. I won't do this ofcourse.. I am just saying..
Sell it as pure speed and cut it down randomly. When you get too many complaints, eventually add a small sentence that some testing-results showed a purity of only 40%. But keep advertising it as >90% pure. ;)
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Hey BoyMaster, if you're still about:
Quick question, the latest speed is a kinda light brown almost slightly tan colour.
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Don't get me wrong it smells potent, and I'm sure the potency will be as good as ever.
it's just I'd of thought it would be whiter...? Like the photo's on the listing.
Just curious.
Cheers, B/F
:)
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Sell it as pure speed and cut it down randomly. When you get too many complaints, eventually add a small sentence that some testing-results showed a purity of only 40%. But keep advertising it as >90% pure. ;)
Haha i see what you did there ;)
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The photo from the listing looks so white cause of the camera flash, but it's the first slightly yellow amphetamine.
It's pretty difficult to achieve a perfect white amphetamine on bulk scale if you lack of the necessary equipment (apparatus or solvents), that's because white is the absence of color, so if you have 0,01% of the brown substance in the amphetamine, it will look beige. No matter that it's a so so small quantity, it's just as paint dye.
The difference in color is tricky, we have different 500g bags from the same batch, but when you purify it, some sort of sedimentation occurs so the cleaner speed remains down. If you take the upper layers first and put them into a bag you'll have different color speed.
BM
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Thanks for the info, it's hardly colored at all really, just looks a little like when DMT oxidises.
I just wondered why batches differ and You've explained perfectly.
Looking forward to trying it out actually... Like I said, smells awesome!
Cheers...
B/F
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Price is the best instrument for controlling the amount of sales.
Have you seen our new feedback? it's all caused by small orders (1g and 2g), I lowered the prices weeks ago and so much people started ordering them, but then, let's say that from 100 letters 2 or 3 didn't arrive and buyers evaluated us with 1/5 or 2/5 and it ruined our feedback. Pushing up prices for small orders has reduced their amount drastically.
That was my first guess but I couldn't figure out why you would want to slow down sales. Too much load didn't occur to me :-X
The feedbacks look indeed strange, I checked back until my last feedback and I only found 4 non5s. That's all what is needed to go from 100 to 97.5? I'm aware that everything but 5/5 counts as negative. 3-4 dubious feedbacks are enough to cause such a dent?
2 of 5 I have not gotten my stuff yet :( I ordered it 1 september. Do you know whats wrong?
3 of 5 Package never arrived. 50% refund.
1 of 5 not yet arrived after 2 weeks in EU. (waiting for) Update: never arrived and no refund. bad seller
1 of 5 this is not good clean speed. it has something nasty added to it. steer clear. be warned
#2 is fine, #1 and #3 seems to have waited 4 and 2 weeks respectively, then finalized saying they received nothing. I just don't want to believe that people are really that stupid. #4 is almost funny, strange enough it came right before #3. 3 & 4 are just too crazy, fake maybe? probably.
I always said that about the speed market: it's like there are really 2 markets, one for the masses and another one for enthusiasts. The mass of people will always buy from the cheapest, they don't seem to care and they don't seem to notice it anyway. If one wants to tap in to that, cut the speed town to barely recognizable and sell cheap. But get ready for a shitload of 1g orders with feedbacks like the above. It would indeed be stupid to sell those people +90% gear. Complete waste of product and an immense health risk for mass buyers (there's where you will see the ODs). I don't fully disagree with FireUK o that point: those people can't tell caffeine from amphetamine apart. Not the best idea to give them really pure stuff. FireUK wanted to please everyone, thought no one would notice (+speed +coke = crazy). I don't really see a reason why a (small) legit vendor would get in to that mass market. More money maybe, but no more time to spend it. No one lasts there. Pf, skyy, aa, they all failed sooner or later.
@CC: I just saw that test result from Caps Lock, you are right. That's very weird, why did no one catch that earlier? The saferparty.ch stuff shoult really be HCL-equivalent, flyerz was told that he had the 2nd best sample ever tested, if it was 92.x it wouldn't be 2nd.
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I always said that about the speed market: it's like there are really 2 markets, one for the masses and another one for enthusiasts. The mass of people will always buy from the cheapest, they don't seem to care and they don't seem to notice it anyway. If one wants to tap in to that, cut the speed town to barely recognizable and sell cheap. But get ready for a shitload of 1g orders with feedbacks like the above. It would indeed be stupid to sell those people +90% gear. Complete waste of product and an immense health risk for mass buyers (there's where you will see the ODs). I don't fully disagree with FireUK o that point: those people can't tell caffeine from amphetamine apart. Not the best idea to give them really pure stuff. FireUK wanted to please everyone, thought no one would notice (+speed +coke = crazy). I don't really see a reason why a (small) legit vendor would get in to that mass market. More money maybe, but no more time to spend it. No one lasts there. Pf, skyy, aa, they all failed sooner or later.
So in other words.. Cutting the speed down to 50-60%, selling it at $18 a gram and just advertising it as "top quality" would serve one much better than going through the trouble of producing a highly pure product and selling it in this pure form.. If only people could educate themselves on the drugs they consume.. It is for their own good in the long run..
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I always said that about the speed market: it's like there are really 2 markets, one for the masses and another one for enthusiasts. The mass of people will always buy from the cheapest, they don't seem to care and they don't seem to notice it anyway. If one wants to tap in to that, cut the speed town to barely recognizable and sell cheap. But get ready for a shitload of 1g orders with feedbacks like the above. It would indeed be stupid to sell those people +90% gear. Complete waste of product and an immense health risk for mass buyers (there's where you will see the ODs). I don't fully disagree with FireUK o that point: those people can't tell caffeine from amphetamine apart. Not the best idea to give them really pure stuff. FireUK wanted to please everyone, thought no one would notice (+speed +coke = crazy). I don't really see a reason why a (small) legit vendor would get in to that mass market. More money maybe, but no more time to spend it. No one lasts there. Pf, skyy, aa, they all failed sooner or later.
So in other words.. Cutting the speed down to 50-60%, selling it at $18 a gram and just advertising it as "top quality" would serve one much better than going through the trouble of producing a highly pure product and selling it in this pure form.. If only people could educate themselves on the drugs they consume.. It is for their own good..
What about cutting it for the "street speed community" (e.g. 50% for $15) and offering the pure one for "us"? ;)
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I think number of 'educated' people is constantly increasing because of this thread. I know I learn a lot about drugs from these forums :)
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Heheh and I'm the sucker who mostly buy the pricey Big Pharma products for a competent chemist to produce with a standard of quality. At the moment its above my means to pay for the "legal by prescription", but for me it's investment for school, since I'm saving ym money for college this year and self-studying til December.. and I'm a quick learner without speed =D
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So in other words.. Cutting the speed down to 50-60%, selling it at $18 a gram and just advertising it as "top quality" would serve one much better than going through the trouble of producing a highly pure product and selling it in this pure form.. If only people could educate themselves on the drugs they consume.. It is for their own good in the long run..
I'm instinctively against the idea of cutting your product, even if you are straight about it and don't try to hide it. No matter how much economic sense it makes, it just feels wrong to adjust yourself in that way to better fit a messed up market segmet.
And remember.. in the end you are still competing against ignorants, liars and/or scammers. If you want to stay honest, you don't have access to the same means of competition as they do. Stay above the bullshit, let the "street market" customers come to you when they've researched enough to understand how and why yours is a superior product.
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I doubt he will and I am pretty confident there would still be high-end speed available. But if you want to get something out of the speed mass market, this is what you have to do. A legit, unadulterated product will never get the biggest marketshare imho. That's not how people think, I don't know how many people read the forums, like less than 30% (??) and the rest makes his decisions based on seller rank, the last couple of feedacks, the picture and order of appearance in a list.
@CC 50-60% is way too much, more like 25-30%.
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Sorry about delay...I didn't get the results of BM's till now. They had some technical problems at the lab :-\
So the need some more time. I should get the results at the next days, but don't know exactly when.
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No problem. We are very thankful that you do this. :)
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Personally I have been enjoying some of CCs gear the three days now with very little let up in power and all of the qualities that are and have been so rare on here. The burn then sweet drain of no plugged nose is so much better. I am impatient and while in my youth would have simply made caps and ingested, I would rather get eh euphoria from snorting great speed. I am willing to pay the premium to have my gear this clean and uncut. I have been enjoying both BoyMaster and Cape Crusaders presence and input on this thread immensely. Both have a great manner and calm informed way about them. KUDOS for bringing this category to the wonderful heights you have both achieved. Now people who miss this thread and the forums in general are only hurting themselves. Perhaps tha damn scammer in the UK cant even remember his id now that had claimed multiple levels of purity and pricing based on such was actually genius on the marketing side of this adventure. Personally I would always opt for the higher purity and simply use less then add nose plugging crap on purpose. And I find lactose quite unsavory to my palette. While i am no rich man I do realize good value and what I want is worth the extra coin if you will. Hate to pay any more then necessary but also understand the goal here and am willing to accept reasonable price increases in the spirit of maintaining the highest quality and profit margin required to serve both the needs of the seller and the buyer and mostly myself. Even as I thought the same thing as Muslix, when I actually thought the BM had not tied his product pricing to the dollar. I also realized his quality justified soaking in a bit of extra margin benefiting from the BTC swing. Certainly if it encourages BM and CC to both continue provide such awesome product. Still hugely cheaper then meth and much more pleasant overall..
Peace and Keep up the good psoting all,
Hilly
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hey guys
gotta restock my speed stash. Is BM's stuff still the best stuff around? Feel free to send me a private message if you don't want to post here :)
thanks
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hey guys
gotta restock my speed stash. Is BM's stuff still the best stuff around? Feel free to send me a private message if you don't want to post here :)
thanks
Yep, BoyMaster and CapeCrusader (out of stock ATM) are the kings of speed:)
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hey guys
gotta restock my speed stash. Is BM's stuff still the best stuff around? Feel free to send me a private message if you don't want to post here :)
thanks
Yep, BoyMaster and CapeCrusader (out of stock ATM) are the kings of speed:)
thanks broseph
CapeCrusader? He must be new... what country does he send from?
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thanks broseph
CapeCrusader? He must be new... what country does he send from?
You're welcome!:)
He's around since August and he sends from South Africa.
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Price is the best instrument for controlling the amount of sales.
Have you seen our new feedback? it's all caused by small orders (1g and 2g), I lowered the prices weeks ago and so much people started ordering them, but then, let's say that from 100 letters 2 or 3 didn't arrive and buyers evaluated us with 1/5 or 2/5 and it ruined our feedback. Pushing up prices for small orders has reduced their amount drastically.
As about the monopole, our speed market share during the past week was of about 23,2% so we are very far from controlling the market prices. In this market the demand is pretty inelastic so if we push prices up the customers go to another vendor except, of course, our most loyal and beloved customers.
So as you can see, everything in life is cause and effect.
Greets
BM
Here is my suggestion on small amount prices:
Give your regular customers who have bought multiple small orders received them in time 5/5 a discount on smaller orders then.
It's pretty simple :) I'd like to order again, I don't like buying bulk because when I run out of my 1-2g orders this (despite rest days while using) this gives me a recovery period... and I can still reap the rewards of the productivity I had while I was using the speed. Every-time I have ordered from you it has arrived within 5-6 days and I finalize before I even open the package.
SO, is a discount something you could consider for repeat customers who have previous successful orders on smaller amounts? This seems like the fair solution. It might even be a marketing incentive for your vendor page "successful repeat customer = discount".
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On the topic of cutting speed down so people don't OD? Please no. I love the fact that there are two options for the first time ever that have high purity stuff. I can wrap it into little balls, hide doses in my stash lighter (Once I used it to give a police officer a light! although I live in a country where police are friendly). Also, you could make people confirm that they understand that it is high potency and not to be done in Tony Montana lines like they do with their average street shit. Furthermore I simply cannot wrap my head around folk who use stimulants and do not have benzodiazipines in case of emergency. It's like sky diving with an umbrella vs a parachute.
I just went through my BM stuff which at first made me a little weary beacuse for me at least it caused a fair bit of bodyload, but that subsided after a few tries. I don't know what it is but it seems that snorting speed never quite works for me. It used to.. Might just be something messed up with my nose (I don't make a habit of snorting things). Although I do for some reason love snorting stuff. I only snort 1 dose. I snorted 60mg the other day (tolerance had gone up despite the fact that I have rest days).
I got the yellowey tan stuff BM sent out. I received it very quickly. In contrast, I have not received an LSD order from FartBomber yet.
I really want to try CapeCrusaders gear now. While BM stuff is good and consistent and clearly makes me type and thinkg 200 words per minute (I am currently having a rest day, I didn't use it ALL up, I have like 80mg left so I figured it save it as an emergency dose. My tolerance spiiked from 40-50mg oral to needing like 80 anyhow)
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Price is the best instrument for controlling the amount of sales.
Have you seen our new feedback? it's all caused by small orders (1g and 2g), I lowered the prices weeks ago and so much people started ordering them, but then, let's say that from 100 letters 2 or 3 didn't arrive and buyers evaluated us with 1/5 or 2/5 and it ruined our feedback. Pushing up prices for small orders has reduced their amount drastically.
As about the monopole, our speed market share during the past week was of about 23,2% so we are very far from controlling the market prices. In this market the demand is pretty inelastic so if we push prices up the customers go to another vendor except, of course, our most loyal and beloved customers.
So as you can see, everything in life is cause and effect.
Greets
BM
Here is my suggestion on small amount prices:
Give your regular customers who have bought multiple small orders received them in time 5/5 a discount on smaller orders then.
It's pretty simple :) I'd like to order again, I don't like buying bulk because when I run out of my 1-2g orders this (despite rest days while using) this gives me a recovery period... and I can still reap the rewards of the productivity I had while I was using the speed. Every-time I have ordered from you it has arrived within 5-6 days and I finalize before I even open the package.
SO, is a discount something you could consider for repeat customers who have previous successful orders on smaller amounts? This seems like the fair solution. It might even be a marketing incentive for your vendor page "successful repeat customer = discount".
Yeah I would do that if I had some option to make a list of buyers here in silk road, but I'm not going to store your usernames in my computer...
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There's no way around that? Oh well. Personally I left 5/5 rating for this and the old 70% batch (which I found to be similar really) but I don't see myself purchasing this batch again. Dexedrine I'll be interested.
For whatever reason it didn't help so much with my productivity and strangely I do not get much of a mood lift / motivational boost. I do feel "sped up" and can become focused on task but I just can't get into it at all. If I got the effects I seek (basically the ones others get) then I'd have no problem with the price really. I tried low to high doses
The first two orders I got from MrFireUK were excellent and I felt liek I could accomplish anything (and did in fact have some of the best results I've ever had in my so called profession) while causing no bodyload- while... of course order 3 was some shit that tested at 33% when I sent it in but I doubt if I had taken 2.5x dosage it would've had the same effect. I don't even think that was the same batch that had been cut, just some completely different shit batch because increasing dosage did not produce effects beyond tachycardia.
I think it's because there is no competition for BM right now.. FUK has been proven to be a scam or should i rather say he provides a product with inconsistent purity and i have no listings up so who can compete with BM? If you want high quality you have to go to him right now..
Right now it seems my only option is to wait for your listings, in addition to the actual transit time I'll be helping Santa out of the chimney by that time :)
BM is high purity indeed but unfortunately I don't get that motivational drive everyone else ITT seems to get (I saw maybe one or two mention they didn't get it either).
The utterly bizarre thing is MFUK had such a good fucking product, zero bodyload and barely any apetite supression so I could take it during the day before I had my dinner. Strange how they all have such profoundly different effects. I doubt the quality MFUK's stuff that I got was ever actually 90%>- but it just clicked with my brain and lots others.... Why the hell would you provide such a great clean product, get a huge customer base and just shit it all up...
Alas, I am now completely without a source or a good option.. to the point where I'm actually thinking about ordering fireuk stuff again and just hope by some weird fucking chance I get what I had before. The positive thing to think would be that I get to be "clean" but I don't abuse amphetamines so it's agitating. Especially as I have some tournaments at the end of the month through the next. It's ridiculous how much certain amphetamines improve my abilities.
I'm starting to consider ordering from fireuk (he said he had a new batch.......... but I have a feeling that new batch was the shit I received last time). Shit, even if you just have it at arms-length you feel more confident to deal with stuff that comes up. Then again I avoid bulk buys because while I find myself disciplined and never really gotten addicted to anything (despite trying most)- if i had 50g around I think my routine would eventually break and i'd start using daily....
But god damnit I need amphetamine nOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on Cape! Come on other chefs. I need my damn brain spinach.
Btw has anyone tried nordicsupply? (99).. 1g is more expensive than 1g from BM and purity claim of 55-70% but the street speed I got whe nI was visiting the country he ships from always hit the spot.
hmm... maybe I will try it... or actually no, Ships from sweden claims "good quality dutch speed"... to me that means "caffeinated shit".
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Hey, what's happening here? I've been away couple of weeks. Everybody's alive and rocking?
Just let you know..... CC's stuff is absolutely one of the best "working/motivation/social" drugs I've tried for years. It's really strong but it feels somehow really "smooth". I can't explain it. Maybe it's called "nice high" :0)) I think speed was meant to be like this. Keeps you going, gives you nice buzz and whole lotta motivation! Now I'm talking about smaller working doses. Have to wait for the next batch to party hard.
With CC's stuff, bombing is the way! Takes 30-40 min to kick in but it will last hours. There is no such a pressure on your body like BM's stuff (which is also goooood&strong).
~Q~
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bm's stuff made me jittery and confused most of the time. oldamsterdams was the shittest stuff i ve had in a long time, fireuk wasnt that strong and didnt live up to the hype
in fact, only nbomes first batch was up to standard. i wont talk about aakovens. we know
i'm waiting for the new phet prince of sr, cape crusader to shut down all pretenders.
come on cc, lol
i guess good things come to those who wait, but seriously i cannot wait to try this stuff.
good amphet, devoid of adulterants is just about the best thing ever. and i know good speed
we need somebody to demonstrate that cutting speed is a sin, and sinners go to hell
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waiting sucks :)
and i know good speed
I'm convinced.
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I am really sorry about making you guys wait so long but the good news is that by December i should have enough stock every month to have my listings up permanently :)
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Will there be smaller batches before that time?
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Will there be smaller batches before that time?
Yes what i meant was i will release the next batch in about 3-4 weeks.. After this batch is sold my listings will go down again for a few weeks.. But when my listings go up for a 4th time (December/January) it should be permanent.. The batch that will be released in a 3-4 weeks time will include the bigger 5 and 10 gram listings..
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Yes what i meant was i will release the next batch in about 3-4 weeks.. After this batch is sold my listings will go down again for a few weeks.. But when my listings go up for a 4th time (December/January) it should be permanent.. The batch that will be released in a 3-4 weeks time will include the bigger 5 and 10 gram listings..
In the mean time, can you please whoop up a batch of methaqualone for us?
Since you're a clandestine chemist (CC!) operating out of South Africa, I bet you're familiar with the synthesis. :)
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In the mean time, can you please whoop up a batch of methaqualone for us?
I'd pay some good money for some 'ludes, that's for sure.
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I took ~50mg of FUK's 92.6% amphetamine yesterday. I don't know how pure his latest batch is but mine was lab tested. Back to the story.. Took it at 14.00 and I felt immediately effects. Before snorting I was pretty tired after that I "woke up". Ready to go out with the dog, clear mind and my motivation got higher.. I played FIFA 13 for a couple of hours. After 8 hours without drinking I had a headache (my fault..). The awakeness lasted for about 14hours and that gear didn't contain any meth or RC's.
It was my first real experience with amphetamine - previously I felt nothing (same gear).
So if he'd permanently sell 92.6%, he'd be a really good seller of amphetamine.
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bm's stuff made me jittery and confused most of the time. oldamsterdams was the shittest stuff i ve had in a long time, fireuk wasnt that strong and didnt live up to the hype
in fact, only nbomes first batch was up to standard. i wont talk about aakovens. we know
i'm waiting for the new phet prince of sr, cape crusader to shut down all pretenders.
come on cc, lol
good amphet, devoid of adulterants is just about the best thing ever. and i know good speed
we need somebody to demonstrate that cutting speed is a sin, and sinners go to hell
Yeah exactly my sentiments about BoyMaster stuff. I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't seem to get the super duper effects from it everyone else gets. I can't really move around or go out on it.. The bodyload is just very heavy while not providing great mental stimulation for me. .OldAmsterdam stuff I tried also and yes it was fucking shit cut with caffeine. big surprise. Anything related to holland seeems to be automatically crap in terms of amphetamine.
I took ~50mg of FUK's 92.6% amphetamine yesterday. I played FIFA 13 for a couple of hours.
So if he'd permanently sell 92.6%, he'd be a really good seller of amphetamine.
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Yes I had his good stuff too and it was excellent which is why I bought there again when CC had his last listing up because if it's not broken why fi..... and I never lost a single game of fifa!
I just drank a cup of coffee to feel ... awake. I realize it jut makes me feel shitty and crashy, this is pretty much what dutch speed feels like. Incidentally exactly what that joker discountdrugs sold me. Glad he's gone at least... but new people keep popping up with shit speed.
Do these idiot vendors even try their own product at all? do they PAY money for this fucking shit or do they actually receive half decent speed and then decide to make it pure shit.
The street speed in Northern europe when I lived there was 10 times better than 90%+ of vendors shit here on SR.
Now, has ANYONE ITT tried the Speed from the new vendor "northernsupply" .. has 100 rating so far. a few good feedbacks, some in Swedish which I can understand saying it's good. I know quality of speed always gave me good effects in Sweden.. still it says it's dutch speed... anyways at least it's a new vendor with no bad feedback.. yet. AT this point I have coem to realize that purity doesn't matter too much (as long as it's 50%+ or so). Just what type of sulfate it is and it's cut with other stimulants especially caffeine that makes or breaks things.I can accept if say, 100mg of 50% pure is cut with only 15mg caffeine. but people go overboard with caffeine and thigns become nasty because caffeine now adds adrenaline drainage and you're raping ur body even moer (not that most dealers care)
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Yes I had his good stuff too and it was excellent which is why I bought there again when CC had his last listing up because if it's not broken why fi..... and I never lost a single game of fifa!
I just drank a cup of coffee to feel ... awake. I realize it jut makes me feel shitty and crashy, this is pretty much what dutch speed feels like. Incidentally exactly what that joker discountdrugs sold me. Glad he's gone at least... but new people keep popping up with shit speed.
Do these idiot vendors even try their own product at all? do they PAY money for this fucking shit or do they actually receive half decent speed and then decide to make it pure shit.
The street speed in Northern europe when I lived there was 10 times better than 90%+ of vendors shit here on SR.
Money.. Most people just want to gain much much money.
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This is indeed true, and of course a lot of drug dealers aren't geniuses who can't see the bigger picture. Good consistent quality = customer loyalty, customer base grows = profit.
Everyone who reads this thread knows that there are only two consistent high quality sellers. BM and CC.
maybe one of the people who read the thread about nordicsupply could comment on his speed since is a (100) for the time being
This is why at the top of the speed category on SR there MUST be a link to this thread..
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This is indeed true, and of course a lot of drug dealers aren't geniuses who can't see the bigger picture. Good consistent quality = customer loyalty, customer base grows = profit.
Everyone who reads this thread knows that there are only two consistent high quality sellers. BM and CC.
maybe one of the people who read the thread about nordicsupply could comment on his speed since is a (100) for the time being
This is why at the top of the speed category on SR there MUST be a link to this thread..
I haven't taken BM's or CC's yet. The prices are a bit to high in my opinion. Where's the guy who received a sample of jalapeno's amphetamine?
I don't understand why vendors want to have the purest product.. Then their product gets lab tested and comes out as 70% pure.
Why don't they sell 70% speed/30% lactose? The buyer gets what he paid for and is happy with the product. (no offense)
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This is indeed true, and of course a lot of drug dealers aren't geniuses who can't see the bigger picture. Good consistent quality = customer loyalty, customer base grows = profit.
Everyone who reads this thread knows that there are only two consistent high quality sellers. BM and CC.
maybe one of the people who read the thread about nordicsupply could comment on his speed since is a (100) for the time being
This is why at the top of the speed category on SR there MUST be a link to this thread..
I haven't taken BM's or CC's yet. The prices are a bit to high in my opinion. Where's the guy who received a sample of jalapeno's amphetamine?
I don't understand why vendors want to have the purest product.. Then their product gets lab tested and comes out as 70% pure.
Why don't they sell 70% speed/30% lactose? The buyer gets what he paid for and is happy with the product. (no offense)
Thats it folks, Just synth 100% pure amph and cut it 30%. Its just as easy as what your doing now!
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I haven't taken BM's or CC's yet. The prices are a bit to high in my opinion.
This is strange since a gram of my speed was going for $22 which at the time was cheaper than FUKs yet you were still raving over his speed..
Thats it folks, Just synth 100% pure amph and cut it 30%. Its just as easy as what your doing now!
This brings me back to the point of customers educating themselves.. Why would you want the price and purity dropped? You get the same amount of amphetamine(if not more) with the uncut product and you don't have to put other adulterants up your nose..
It seems that by producing the purest product possible i am only satisfying a small minority of the SR community..
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A loyal minority, at that one.
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I'd just like to thank vendors like BM & CC who put effort into selling the best quality product that they can. I wish that the market only rewarded vendors who sold the highest-quality product, but this is the illicit drug market we're talking about, so we all know that's not usually the case.
In the meantime, I and other quality-minded buyers can only vote with our dollars, and hope that our support makes it lucrative enough for these vendors to stick around, and that their pride in their work doesn't allow them to comprimise on quality.
BoyMaster & CapeCrusader, just remember that it's lonely at the top, but that we all need someone to look up to. And sell us drugs. Good drugs. Reeeeealllly good drugs, in your case.
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It seems that by producing the purest product possible i am only satisfying a small minority of the SR community..
i respect your views cape. its reassuring to know that there are vendors like you who are on the proper wavelength. fuck all those who want to buy crap cut just to save a few dollars.
the ability to get high purity should not be taken for granted. rest assured CC and BM, vendors like you will get many customers through good karma as cheesy as it sounds.
i had one success with mfuk, was revitalised about the speed scene but then the next ones went awol. but it seems it happened to many ppl.
since then, ive been eyeing CC & BM for a new avenue for gentleman speed.
look forward to getting to know u two.
peace out
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Got some bulk BM on its way 8)
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Got some bulk BM on its way 8)
=[ me still waiting... (to order :'()
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I haven't taken BM's or CC's yet. The prices are a bit to high in my opinion.
This is strange since a gram of my speed was going for $22 which at the time was cheaper than FUKs yet you were still raving over his speed..
Thats it folks, Just synth 100% pure amph and cut it 30%. Its just as easy as what your doing now!
This brings me back to the point of customers educating themselves.. Why would you want the price and purity dropped? You get the same amount of amphetamine(if not more) with the uncut product and you don't have to put other adulterants up your nose..
It seems that by producing the purest product possible i am only satisfying a small minority of the SR community..
I think it's more of a fact that these other speed vendors, sell multiple products also. So you get guys who buy passsable mdma/lsd/weed from the guy then buy their crap speed.
If you're satisfying a small minority of intelligent people chances are, they have the money. This is a business. My strategy was perhaps a bit naive where i figured I'd buy a gram or two at a time because I didn't want to sit around on a bunch. FireUK sent me two great orders, I made another small 1.5-2 g order and was planning on buying bulk after that just in case the product vanished. Instead I got the shit, but I guess I was lucky then. Then again I'm sure BM has many customers now with his high purity stuff (even though I personally don't like that particular synth).
Might also be the distance, I think if you cut your product you would get even less business. If peope want to buy cut product hey, there's that guy selling 5g of WET speed for 60 or something and it'll take a few days shippping in europe! GOD knows what the fuck is in it... he probably bought some BM/CC speed, a bunch of dextrose + caffeine powder and then had his cat piss on it.
I guses most drug users are dumb, you'd think the process getting onto SR and using bitcoins would filter some of the numnuts out... but I guess peopel are so quick to buy into all this "BEST DUTCH SPEED EVER ITS SO WHAT ANDS MELLY WOOHOO!!" shit.
I guess I easily set myself up to get scammed here but the next product I buy that really hits the spot, I am instantly buying a big fucking llifetime supply, to put in a safe and giving the key to my personal assistant.
BM's 1g price is rather expensive but that's subjective for me, I'd buy it if I really liked it (I'd buy in bulk).
but if CC is as clean as everyone says (the general opinion is more focused type work amp than BM's speedyfuck stuff )
then $22 is cheap as chips. With it's supposed purity that's like 5 times cheaper than street prices or more for a product that's uncut.
Anyways, satisfying the educated minority is probably more profitable indeed than sending shit to a bunch nimwits.. because that minority will know that this type of purity is rare and will buy large and buy quickly. Funny thing is, if I have great motivational speed..
and on that subject CC please check SR non forum pm thank you.
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Good info on the Modafinil thread brother .
You're welcome! :)
If you happen to come across a valid Armodafinil (Waklert/Sun) source with safe shipping to EU (no India, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, etc..) feel free to msg me! I'd like to give them a try.
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I'll be picking up some of CCs based on these recommendations when you/he (depending on who's reading) is back in stock. Before that, I was thinking of BM. Is it safe to go for a larger quantity? I generally don't like wasting money on shipping on smaller orders, so I was thinking of the 25g size.
And someone earlier was talking about using for a study drug. That's my main purpose. I'm a research scientist and I have been using adderall from local sources, but it's expensive because it comes in the easy-to-administer pill form. I figured that if I get a larger amount, I'd be able to get things done for a much better value.
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Anyone here got any first hand experience with Bungee54's speed?
Seems like a good vendor and has a pretty positive review thread though any of you more educated speed peeps got much info on Bungee ?
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Price is the best instrument for controlling the amount of sales.
Have you seen our new feedback? it's all caused by small orders (1g and 2g), I lowered the prices weeks ago and so much people started ordering them, but then, let's say that from 100 letters 2 or 3 didn't arrive and buyers evaluated us with 1/5 or 2/5 and it ruined our feedback. Pushing up prices for small orders has reduced their amount drastically.
As about the monopole, our speed market share during the past week was of about 23,2% so we are very far from controlling the market prices. In this market the demand is pretty inelastic so if we push prices up the customers go to another vendor except, of course, our most loyal and beloved customers.
So as you can see, everything in life is cause and effect.
Greets
BM
^^This.. When my 1 gram listings were $27.5 i hardly received any orders.. Well i was still new with little feedback so this is understandable.. As soon as i lowered it to $22 i was flooded with orders.. If people could actually look at the actual amount of amphetamine they are getting they would see that paying over $30 for a gram is actually a very very good deal.. My next batch i am preparing is 95%< pure.. I honestly don't see how i could offer such a product for as cheap as most of these other vendors.. Given the mentality of most of the buyers here who opt for a low price rather than the quality i would be better off just cutting the product down to 70% and selling it at $20 a gram.. I won't do this ofcourse.. I am just saying..
What was the purity of CapeCrusader's last batch?
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thanks broseph
CapeCrusader? He must be new... what country does he send from?
You're welcome!:)
He's around since August and he sends from South Africa.
is South Africa a flagged country? How safe is it to ship to the USA?
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I haven't taken BM's or CC's yet. The prices are a bit to high in my opinion.
This is strange since a gram of my speed was going for $22 which at the time was cheaper than FUKs yet you were still raving over his speed..
Thats it folks, Just synth 100% pure amph and cut it 30%. Its just as easy as what your doing now!
This brings me back to the point of customers educating themselves.. Why would you want the price and purity dropped? You get the same amount of amphetamine(if not more) with the uncut product and you don't have to put other adulterants up your nose..
It seems that by producing the purest product possible i am only satisfying a small minority of the SR community..
I didn't mean you (CC) and BM with my post. I wrote about the other thousand speed vendors out there.
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is South Africa a flagged country? How safe is it to ship to the USA?
The USA imho is one of the easiest countries to ship to.. I don't know what the big fuss is about.. There has even been reports of sloppy vendors mailing envelopes with substances leaking out and it still got through.. There is no way my stealthy letters are getting seized by the USA customs.. I think the USA just has so much mail to deal with that they probably don't even bother scrutinizing small letters..
Best Regards
CC
Edit: All of my USA orders have arrived safely..
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is South Africa a flagged country?
yes, they have a flag: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg
tick tack tick tack tick tack.... waiting still sucks :P
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is South Africa a flagged country? How safe is it to ship to the USA?
The USA imho is one of the easiest countries to ship to.. I don't know what the big fuss is about.. There has even been reports of sloppy vendors mailing envelopes with substances leaking out and it still got through.. There is no way my stealthy letters are getting seized by the USA customs.. I think the USA just has so much mail to deal with that they probably don't even bother scrutinizing small letters..
Best Regards
CC
Edit: All of my USA orders have arrived safely..
we 2nd this..we never lost a US order.
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is South Africa a flagged country?
tick tack tick tack tick tack.... waiting still sucks :P
Tell me about it ::)
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This is indeed true, and of course a lot of drug dealers aren't geniuses who can't see the bigger picture. Good consistent quality = customer loyalty, customer base grows = profit.
Thats what we also live by and we hope we can rival the pros in the future 8)
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Today I received "amphetamine" from FUK.. (I thought he scammed me.. package needed over a month to a neighbour-country.)
The vac sealed bag smelled very bad. The "amphetamine" was wet and yellowish and smells like the bag.
It's definitely not 92.6% pure. Has any1 received the same?
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The testing took longer than expected >:(
But I got the results of BM's last batch...89.6 % :)
Like everytime they write the result in HCL, but I don't know if they calculate anything from sulfate to HCL.
I try the talk with someone from the lab at the next party test station, because then the people from the lab are there and you get the results after 20min.
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The testing took longer than expected >:(
But I got the results of BM's last batch...89.6 % :)
Like everytime they write the result in HCL, but I don't know if they calculate anything from sulfate to HCL.
I try the talk with someone from the lab at the next party test station, because then the people from the lab are there and you get the results after 20min.
Hey Raoul.. I would really appreciate if you could find out if they do convert it to the HCL equivalent.. I don't think they do as the result from the Netherlands testing lab from FUKs sample is identical at 92.6%.. But a confirmation would clear things up once and for all..
Big ups to BM.. This is a very good result..
CC
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The testing took longer than expected >:(
But I got the results of BM's last batch...89.6 % :)
Like everytime they write the result in HCL, but I don't know if they calculate anything from sulfate to HCL.
I try the talk with someone from the lab at the next party test station, because then the people from the lab are there and you get the results after 20min.
Hey Raoul.. I would really appreciate if you could find out if they do convert it to the HCL equivalent.. I don't think they do as the result from the Netherlands testing lab from FUKs sample is identical at 92.6%.. But a confirmation would clear things up once and for all..
Big ups to BM.. This is a very good result..
CC
I'm the man who tested the FUK sample. It is the same testing lab, but his latest batch isn't nearly 92.6% pure..
@CC
My posts a few hours ago about 70% amphetamine 30% lactose wasn't an offense against you and BM. Sorry for that..
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I'm the man who tested the FUK sample. It is the same testing lab, but his latest batch isn't nearly 92.6% pure..
@CC
My posts a few hours ago about 70% amphetamine 30% lactose wasn't an offense against you and BM. Sorry for that..
Don't worry about it.. No offense was taken..
With regards to the test results.. We know FUKs amphetamine isn't 92.6%.. What we're trying to figure out is if the testing lab actually converts the results to the HCL equivalent or if they just put HCL on the paper.. FUK sent the same sample you received to a guy in the Netherlands and the result was identical to yours (92.6%).. This leads us to believe that they do not convert it to the HCL equivalent but instead they just put HCL on the paper..
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Today I received "amphetamine" from FUK.. (I thought he scammed me.. package needed over a month to a neighbour-country.)
The vac sealed bag smelled very bad. The "amphetamine" was wet and yellowish and smells like the bag.
It's definitely not 92.6% pure. Has any1 received the same?
Well, I just ordered again from him but I requested he sent from the UK and his "personal" stuff because it should arrive quicker and then I'll know for sure if it's a Goblin in germany who is randomly pissing on his amphetamine... or just Mr Fire.
Last time I received 33% (Sorry can't comment on whether HCL stuff- my friend just told me 33% on the phone), I will know just by testing whether it's the same... He said that he got a new batch.. but you know, the 33% I received looked very similar to the high quality (dry & white). Wet speed has never been a good sign on SR. The colour seems irrelevant, I mean BM's stuff looked like snot sealed in. The good fireuk stuff was pure white, bad fireuk looked exactly the same. So who knows. I'm also ordering this northern stuff but the vendor ignored my simple question whether his product was cut with caffeine.
If I'm able to get a hold of CC stuff then I think it's time for me to just finally make some 50g+ order because I feel responsible enough not to binge after all the diff vendors I tried now. (that said, I have only received TWO orders I enjoyed and was subsequently sent bunk- BM is ok but does not sparkle with me).
SO it's down to the crusader and until that stuff arrives I'll just have to make do making little orders here and there for dirty speed and rate it accordingly.
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Today I received "amphetamine" from FUK.. (I thought he scammed me.. package needed over a month to a neighbour-country.)
The vac sealed bag smelled very bad. The "amphetamine" was wet and yellowish and smells like the bag.
It's definitely not 92.6% pure. Has any1 received the same?
Well, I just ordered again from him but I requested he sent from the UK and his "personal" stuff because it should arrive quicker and then I'll know for sure if it's a Goblin in germany who is randomly pissing on his amphetamine... or just Mr Fire.
Last time I received 33% (Sorry can't comment on whether HCL stuff- my friend just told me 33% on the phone), I will know just by testing whether it's the same... He said that he got a new batch.. but you know, the 33% I received looked very similar to the high quality (dry & white). Wet speed has never been a good sign on SR. The colour seems irrelevant, I mean BM's stuff looked like snot sealed in. The good fireuk stuff was pure white, bad fireuk looked exactly the same. So who knows. I'm also ordering this northern stuff but the vendor ignored my simple question whether his product was cut with caffeine.
Yeah it's difficult I know. It was slightly yellowish, but dry it is white. I crushed it to powder on a paper and after that the paper was a bit softened and the smell is sooooooooo bad. Smells like burned plastic.. What the fuck is this? I might upload a picture to compare later.
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Well, I just ordered again from him but I requested he sent from the UK and his "personal" stuff because it should arrive quicker and then I'll know for sure if it's a Goblin in germany who is randomly pissing on his amphetamine... or just Mr Fire.
If you receive brilliant speed from FUK this time round it won't prove anything.. You made a special request that he send from his personal stuff.. I am sure this sent up a few red flags.. He will know that something is up and i honestly feel that he will go out of his way to send to you and only you the best possible speed that he can..
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It is ahame that the whole MRFilreUK thing went like that. My two orders from him was quite good but clearly had some qunatity of lactose by taste anyways. The nose plugging part is a clear indication.
OK a week in and I will say hands down CapeCrusader you are the man. I like BM 's gear but the isomer ratio or some other subtle thing about CCs gear are really working for me. The dryness and after that expected little drip experience right around drain time he clear nose high euphoria talkative buzz is hard to not like. Still have not worked my way thru 0.75g yet. I will most excited and hopeful you can repeat that quality and purity. So clean and easy to roll with. Still kicking long and strong. I have to admit that the gel cap I tried yesterday worked very well sand I might consider thast ROA more often.
As to the whole lab testing results in HCl. While I have no proof my thought would be that it is simple material of convention to report it converted to the HCl salt. Odds are if as reported by Flyer this is done by HPLC. I think it would occur to the operator//technician//chemist that any calibration of any multiple analyte method would best performed using the same salt. Since most other form of popular stimulants are in fact as HCl based salts typically mt sulfates. Why would you add complexity with mixed salts if you did nto have to? I would run meth and amp, in my mind, ,on very same column and detection system using he same dilution scheme and eluent.
This cause me to prepare a standard containing both compounds to pick off the proper retention times. I know for a fact I would prefer they were both the same salt from in any QC verification etc..
Highed up and thinking a bit too hard about it maybe.
Hilly
Peace
Hilly
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8) 8) Hi Everyone I'm Sunny, 8) 8)
I've been around for a couple months now, made a couple comments, been scammed,(that was before I found the forums) DUH! Now I'm on here everyday, as this is my forum, of choice! ;) And I have to keep up with the latest and greatest!
I've bought the Canadian speed from arigolo. The amphetamine pills from Death before Dishonor, and Speed from CC, BM and BRPower.
Just a couple of comments, CC's rocks, at least for the high I like, BM's is just a strong but it is heavy on the body. BRPower just ok not bad. I've heard a few folks talking about price and there is only two things I have to say about that. 1) You pay for what you get, would you rather drink a six pack of Budweiser, or a six pack of New Castle. and THE single reason I shall not and will not complain about prices, because for the love of god people I can order what ever I want from my comfy chair, and it gets delivered right to my door!!! If anyone has any questions about the vendors I mentioned or anything else, especially newbies, I defo learned the hard way on thibgs!! :)
Peace out Everyone.......O' and CC we want more!!
~Sunny
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Yes, I'm starting to think BM stuff is very unhealthy because it increases blood pressure and tachycardia quite a lot.
Bottomline is, it's strong potent speed with heavy bodyload imo... but just because speed is potent doesn't mean it has to have heavy bodyload as proven before fireuk went "rogue" so to speak but I'm inteested to see what he sends frmo his personal Uk stash. again, it gave better effect than BM while keeping my cardiovascular health fairly normal.
fireuk good stuff had barely any bodyload and I think CC will have less bodyload as well from rreading multiple different comments.
Spending a week with 120bpm and high blood pressure while I'm a fit young male is just silly and not worth it. I hope BM looks into what iti s that makes his speed cause such heavy bodyload while others don't.
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Anyone tried amsterdrope's product? I'm expecting some and would be keen to know in advance thanks!
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If BM's speed tested at 89% HCl, what could be causing the body load? Isn't amphetamine pretty much the same? Does his have more of a specific isomer?
I could understand if it was laced with a ton of caffeine but it doesn't look like there's a ton of room for cuts
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Yes, I'm starting to think BM stuff is very unhealthy because it increases blood pressure and tachycardia quite a lot.
Bottomline is, it's strong potent speed with heavy bodyload imo... but just because speed is potent doesn't mean it has to have heavy bodyload as proven before fireuk went "rogue" so to speak but I'm inteested to see what he sends frmo his personal Uk stash. again, it gave better effect than BM while keeping my cardiovascular health fairly normal.
fireuk good stuff had barely any bodyload and I think CC will have less bodyload as well from rreading multiple different comments.
Spending a week with 120bpm and high blood pressure while I'm a fit young male is just silly and not worth it. I hope BM looks into what iti s that makes his speed cause such heavy bodyload while others don't.
If you do 50mg of 89,6% amphetamine (BM) you are going to get more bodyload than if you do 50mg of 75-80% (CC).
There could of course be other factors at play (psychoactive impurities, differing isomer ratios, placebo) but don't disregard the dose-response curve when comparing BM and CC.
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By the way.. This is from June (old!) and perhaps müslix has already posted it. Anyway, a nice non-technical read for the amphetamine enthusiast: https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/emcdda-europol-joint-publications-amphetamine-a-european-union-perspective-in-the-global-context.pdf
Regarding the pricing here at SR: (from the PDF)
Mean retail price of amphetamine: ranges from EUR 8 to EUR 42 per gram. Since 2004, with the exception
of the Netherlands, prices have declined or remained stable in all countries where data are available.
Mean purity of amphetamine: from 1 % to 29 % in most countries. Purity has declined since 2004 in all
reporting countries, except Luxembourg, where it increased.
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The testing took longer than expected >:(
But I got the results of BM's last batch...89.6 % :)
Like everytime they write the result in HCL, but I don't know if they calculate anything from sulfate to HCL.
I try the talk with someone from the lab at the next party test station, because then the people from the lab are there and you get the results after 20min.
Thanks a lot! I do believe they give out the HCL equivalent.
> In that case it would be 96.16% Amph.SO4 per weight or 961.6mg/g.
Or: I win the guessing competition by 1%, again!! :P
Hey Raoul.. I would really appreciate if you could find out if they do convert it to the HCL equivalent.. I don't think they do as the result from the Netherlands testing lab from FUKs sample is identical at 92.6%.. But a confirmation would clear things up once and for all..
Big ups to BM.. This is a very good result..
I'll ask (in german) and try to clear this up, but speedie should show up with a freebase equivalent result very soon. Using HCL equivalent makes sense though, probably someone at some point showed up with *real* HCL, that was 95.7% (the maximum they have ever tested). That would be 102% in Sulphate, not very scientific. It's either HCL or base equivalent, or purity per weight. imho.
Caps Lock didn't order a sample for testing. Imho he just got lucky with the 92%.
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As to the whole lab testing results in HCl. While I have no proof my thought would be that it is simple material of convention to report it converted to the HCl salt. Odds are if as reported by Flyer this is done by HPLC. I think it would occur to the operator//technician//chemist that any calibration of any multiple analyte method would best performed using the same salt. Since most other form of popular stimulants are in fact as HCl based salts typically mt sulfates. Why would you add complexity with mixed salts if you did nto have to? I would run meth and amp, in my mind, ,on very same column and detection system using he same dilution scheme and eluent.
This cause me to prepare a standard containing both compounds to pick off the proper retention times. I know for a fact I would prefer they were both the same salt from in any QC verification etc..
Highed up and thinking a bit too hard about it maybe.
Didn't understand it all (:P) but I agree, it seems to be some kind of norm/convention they are following (not the first time I find this phenomenon). Unlike the NL and AT labs, the CH guys seem to send this to a lab that's not a dedicated drug-checking-lab, so they don't have the enduser in mind when reporting the results. They just follow convention and report their findings.
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I don't know enough about lab technique (or indeed chemistry at all) to comment on the sulphate-hydrochloride-freebase discussion.. So I'll stay out of it.
BUT (there is always a but): I'd like to reiterate what I said in my last post; If BM's gear is 96% and CC's is 80%, then perhaps the extra bodyload reported with BM's gear is just a symptom of overdose? Have those of you comparing the two been taking the same dosages of both as if they were interchangeable?
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Hi silk road and especially hi speed community!
I've been reading this forum quite a while now and was (with your help) able to make the educated decision to order 2 g of Boymaster's speed.
Arrived today after 4 days in transit within EU (priority mail).
Stuff looks good and smells good.
Weight was 1.989 g, but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with my cheap scale. :D
The stealth was ok. I would say standardish.
I just tried what my scale considered 28mg orally and ~45min later I'm feeling really awake and good.
Thx.
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I have given out some of my new batch to a few locals and it still doesn't have a heavy body load.. An overdose can't be blamed here when comparing BMs to mine.. If mine were like 40% then yes it could be.. But 80%? It is just too high.. There are guys here such as hellhazz who has bombed 250mg of mine and the same with BMs and FUKs good batch.. With such high doses and such high tolerances a 16% difference in purity won't make much of a difference with regards to a heavy body load.. Also FUKs 92.6% batch was also reported to have little body load and that batch was the purest ever tested on SR..
I am still uncertain with regards to the whole HCL conversion thing.. How would you explain the identical 92.6% test result in the Netherlands?
Thanks
CC
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coincidence. or it was "adjusted" to match the other sample. both more likely than a forensic analytical lab making such a mistake multiple times.
just wait for speedie's result, he'll prove me right ;D
btw did I mention that waiting sucks? =[
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I am still uncertain with regards to the whole HCL conversion thing.. How would you explain the identical 92.6% test result in the Netherlands?
Yeah I'd like to know this as well. And then the other thing, amphetamine.HCL should be hygroscopic. But that was not the case at mrFUK's amphetamine. Me and I think muslix and maybe even another one tested it and it did not absorb/distract water from the air.
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Sorry guy's I don't have been to a test center because till now I didn't receive the new sample from mister Jalapeno.
When I receive this I go with his sample together with one from Boymaster to the center.
Due my work this can take 1 or 2 weeks before I have a chance to go and beside that the center were I go is only open once a week.
Be patient I know it's difficult but that's live.
Speedie
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Just wanted to post another positive experience with BM's gear. I ordered 1g last Friday, and it arrived today. That's better than the average for EU vendors, and his was the first of a few European orders placed at the same time to arrive. Stealth was average, but for a 1g order from a non 'drug-producing' country, I don't think that much is necessary.
I'm not a super-experienced amphetamine user, but I'm not new to the party either. I can safely say that this is some VERY high quality product. I insufflated ~10mg, and swallowed ~20mg, and am experiencing mild euphoria, and the awesome productivity surge that comes with an amphetamine high. As others have noted, there is a strong physical component to BM's speed. My heart rate is around 90bpm, which is high, but something I'm comfortable with. With my tolerance, I wouldn't take more than this while trying to appear 'normal' in public. Lower doses would definitely be viable for a more productive, less 'fun' experience. I can't help myself the day the drugs arrive, though. It's like Christmas!
I also ordered 2g of MFUK's speed. I know that quality has decreased, but past orders have given me a more 'cerebral' (less physically 'speedy', but still focused and motivated) high, and I wanted to compare the effects at roughly equivalent doses. I'm also harboring a crazy dream in which MFUK comes to his senses and starts selling that fire gear again. Who knows? I'm an optimist. I'll report back with the (probably disappointing) results.
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Yes, I'm starting to think BM stuff is very unhealthy because it increases blood pressure and tachycardia quite a lot.
Bottomline is, it's strong potent speed with heavy bodyload imo... but just because speed is potent doesn't mean it has to have heavy bodyload as proven before fireuk went "rogue" so to speak but I'm inteested to see what he sends frmo his personal Uk stash. again, it gave better effect than BM while keeping my cardiovascular health fairly normal.
fireuk good stuff had barely any bodyload and I think CC will have less bodyload as well from rreading multiple different comments.
Spending a week with 120bpm and high blood pressure while I'm a fit young male is just silly and not worth it. I hope BM looks into what iti s that makes his speed cause such heavy bodyload while others don't.
If you do 50mg of 89,6% amphetamine (BM) you are going to get more bodyload than if you do 50mg of 75-80% (CC).
There could of course be other factors at play (psychoactive impurities, differing isomer ratios, placebo) but don't disregard the dose-response curve when comparing BM and CC.
... I'm not that stupid ??? lol
Even BM's old 70% batch gave heavier bodyload than the 92% rated fireuk stuff I had. I could take 60-70mg of it and experience only mild heart rate increase. Meanwhile 30-50mg of BM seems to be very straining.
I have never overdosed on speed since I never eyeball doses and always use scales while starting off at low test doses so this would not be the case either. I don't think having 120bpm qualifies as an OD.. I mean most meth heads run at 130-150bpm and don't give a shit. Personally I have used many diff stimulants that while, raise my heartrate don't cause tachycardia (100bpm +). So I stick to that.....
Now lets say BM's stuff gae me some heavenly euphoria I would probably overlook the bodyload but it does not work well for me and I tried most dosage ranges without going crazy.
It's not terrible however, terrible would be heart palpitations (skipped heart beats / arrhythmia etc then you are entering into dangerous grounds)... As far as I know obese people walk around with
Of course OldAmsterdam trash gave the heaviest bodyload due to it being cut with caffeine. Is why I avoid this dutch speed like the plague.
BM's stuff is certainly pure but it's all in the chemistry I suppose... and as much as I wish I could placebo my cardiovascular strain to that extent I am not in control of thijs system :)
This is why CapeCrusader's stuff is the only option to me because from all the opinions I've culled his stuff gives less bodyload than BM while giving different effects (which I seek since BM does not do the trick for me)
(besides the original fireuk stuff... because the poor quality stuff I received also gave heavier bodyload and different effects at equivelant doses indicating to me that it was not even the same speed... or the cutting agent causes an unhealthy reaction)
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I will say /i find the batch i received from CC was more euphoric and way cleaner feeling and hangover /body load i guess. Being a old school snorter even kinder on my nose. I do like BM s gear no question his is good but it is different and does have that residual reek.
OK my high ed up explanation of the reporting convention was a tough read if you are unfamiliar with ruining a HPLC. Since i have already showed a lot of my hand already, let me say, I know that not all labs will do this testing the same or report the results in the same format unless they are required to follow specific methods called for by a FDA or USDA pharma method. The same for the European Governing Standard on pharma. In fact some of the new rules for things labeled in Europe as feed or nutrition grades have their own complete set of rules for reporting values and storage etc..
To add confusion each country has its own set of guidelines and methodology. Not all the specifics are shared between labs unless there are laws requiring the use of a specific method. US labs have different standards then German lab and Swiss labs and NL labs. They could use the same exact equipment but use different methods as it relates to calibration of the instrument, Quality control, second source standard verification, and I will not really get into detail as this much is not the normal conversation for most people.
Realize chemistry is like every other science and discipline or type of specialization. They use their own language to confuse people who are not in that business., You control the data and information reported. In simple term my hillbilly favorite way. You keep the stupid stupid by creating the sense of expertise by speaking in terms the layman does not understand or can not relate to.
To be perfectly honest in could be completely random which salt they express the result in but more likely related to the salt they use to calibrate the HPLC or other instrument they use. The fact that the HCl form is hygroscopic is of little concern to a real lab. I think nothing of working with even more sensitive reagents in a properly outfitted lab. Once a condition is identified and moisture is easily controlled in this environment In fact the solubility and ionic strength difference could make it a preferred standard to work with. this is speculation on my part I do not run these type of tests for these compounds but do know how industrial and environmental labs handle it. Again any lab that is doing these tests for free will be extremely cost sensitive and testing for multiple drugs in one method and run.
That would mean calibrating with a standard containing the drugs being tested for. Even checking a series of runs would require a "check
standard to be sure the equipment is functioning properly.
OK that was gibberish to most people so I will quit.
But to add another question to comparing the results from different labs. Let me say, most labs fear the so called round robin demonstration of capability test. This is creating one standard for a few different concentration levels and splitting up them and giving to each lab marked so they are unknown concentrations of the the drug or chemical to the lab testing it. Mark em a,b,c,etc.. and even mix the order for each lab which of course means one person checks all of the labs results so he can sort them out. They compare the difference that every lab reports compared to the other labs. Let me say doing this really shows you how bad it really is. If they agree within 10% of each other that would incredible actual variation is closer 20 to 25% in the industrial world. Most methods of this type allow 10% deviation for the check sample of known concentration. To make it simple you make sure it is all working by running this standard of say 40%. The tests are considered good if this standard comes in any where from 36-44 percent. See what happens there? Remember someone takes that little bit of dope without quite really knowing what it is.. They weigh up a tiny portion and then they dilute it in some solvent or even water not sure just know it depends on exactly the equipment and method. They mix it up and then only really test a small portion of that. All of the errors of doing this start to add up.
I will quit with this jewel. Comparing NL labs to Swiss labs one lab gets 92.6 and the other 96.2. This is actually for all practical sense of it the same number potentially. Now 80-92 those are different just trying to give an idea that these tests really are only so good. It is the deep dark secret of this work.
Try not to beat me down too bad. I am a little tired but still zippin too well to sleep. But realize I do not climb on this cliff simply to spout bullshit. this is a very real story and if my exact numbers are off , it is not any huge exaggeration. If you know anyone who does quality work of any kind in the real world they will confirm this story to some degree or another.
My point is you should not get hung up on this guys gear is 96.2 and the other guys is 92 or even 89% These are not that different. I think other things cause the differences in buzz and body reactions. It is much more complicated then that. That is why every batch varies so much. Depending on how the cook gets there, different competing reactions are taking place. There exist at least l and d isomers plus many other impurities. Making amp is not a simple mixture operation. Check erowid or google it and see the amount of work and the impossible long list of things they find testing "street lab" produced amphetamine. It is pretty impressive and scary.
Well enjoy your buzz and if you survived after the first couple of lines go smoke another one it is the weekend. Scary but that was the easy read version lol. Hope I did not bore you too much
Peace
Hilly
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WALL OF TEXT
Excellent explanation, thanks for that. From now on I'll take the test lab percentages with a -- wait for it -- grain of SALT. 8)
There exist at least l and d isomers plus many other impurities.
What impurities could that be? How many candidates could there be that are both pharmacologically active at milligram dosages and also likely to result from whatever synthesis route BM uses? If it's impurities causing the bodyload, and those impurities could be identified, perhaps one could wash them out using an appropriate extraction method.
If the problem is with the l:d ratio, then what does that tell us about BM's synthesis? What mistakes at what stage in the process would skew the ratio towards l-amphetamine?
Perhaps there are no easy answers to those questions, but hey, I'm just a layman trying to break the sense of expertise you guys create with your technical terms and whatnot :).
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Hey Raoul.. I would really appreciate if you could find out if they do convert it to the HCL equivalent.. I don't think they do as the result from the Netherlands testing lab from FUKs sample is identical at 92.6%.. But a confirmation would clear things up once and for all..
Big ups to BM.. This is a very good result..
CC
Hey CC...try to find it out.
But it could take a while, because i have no idea when the next testing at a party is. There only about 10 in a year.
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WALL OF TEXT
Excellent explanation, thanks for that. From now on I'll take the test lab percentages with a -- wait for it -- grain of SALT. 8)
There exist at least l and d isomers plus many other impurities.
What impurities could that be? How many candidates could there be that are both pharmacologically active at milligram dosages and also likely to result from whatever synthesis route BM uses? If it's impurities causing the bodyload, and those impurities could be identified, perhaps one could wash them out using an appropriate extraction method.
If the problem is with the l:d ratio, then what does that tell us about BM's synthesis? What mistakes at what stage in the process would skew the ratio towards l-amphetamine?
Perhaps there are no easy answers to those questions, but hey, I'm just a layman trying to break the sense of expertise you guys create with your technical terms and whatnot :).
I guess there is room for various substances, you cannot expect all ingredients to react at 100%. like in this synthesis they use Quicksilverdichlorid, probably not so healthy ::) http://de.scribd.com/doc/41010414/Amphetamine-Synthesis-IceCool
for the l/d ratio - from my limited chemistry knowledge, I think only temperature and pressure are important and I doubt anyone is working outside atmospheric pressure.
Well, I suck at chemistry ;D.
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Basically, anything that is 65%+ in purity and does not contain caffeine for me I will try, I know this l-diddy stuff is what makes the difference whether it works well for me or not.
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What impurities could that be? How many candidates could there be that are both pharmacologically active at milligram dosages and also likely to result from whatever synthesis route BM uses? If it's impurities causing the bodyload, and those impurities could be identified, perhaps one could wash them out using an appropriate extraction method.
Expect up to 20 (or more) different impurities per route of synthesis. And unless all the precursors involved are 100% pure they can introduce new impurities. All of this is well researched, you'll find at least 50+ academic publications on the topic (search: impurities, impurity profiling). What is not researched is the pharmacological profile of 99% of these impurities. I've read a couple of times that they could easily be amplified by or use amphetamine as a (warning, probably bad syntax, I'm no MD) carrier to pass the BBB more easily. So they don't necessarily need to be active in those low dosage ranges. It's all pretty much unknown (and unresearched) with no intent of future research because of it's legal status.
One can start research here: www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/meth.impurities3.html
But keep in mind the 20-something listed are those known 23 years ago, with a change in precursor(-production) comes a change in impurities, which may or may not add to the pharmacological profile of the end product.
I had your thought exactly, but trust me :) it's not that easy. The closer they get to 100% though, the closer the effects should be (in theory, as the pure end-product should be the same racemic amphetamine sulphate no matter what route was used).
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What impurities could that be? How many candidates could there be that are both pharmacologically active at milligram dosages and also likely to result from whatever synthesis route BM uses? If it's impurities causing the bodyload, and those impurities could be identified, perhaps one could wash them out using an appropriate extraction method.
Expect up to 20 (or more) different impurities per route of synthesis. And unless all the precursors involved are 100% pure they can introduce new impurities. All of this is well researched, you'll find at least 50+ academic publications on the topic (search: impurities, impurity profiling). What is not researched is the pharmacological profile of 99% of these impurities. I've read a couple of times that they could easily be amplified by or use amphetamine as a (warning, probably bad syntax, I'm no MD) carrier to pass the BBB more easily. So they don't necessarily need to be active in those low dosage ranges. It's all pretty much unknown (and unresearched) with no intent of future research because of it's legal status.
One can start research here: www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/meth.impurities3.html
But keep in mind the 20-something listed are those known 23 years ago, with a change in precursor(-production) comes a change in impurities, which may or may not add to the pharmacological profile of the end product.
I had your thought exactly, but trust me :) it's not that easy. The closer they get to 100% though, the closer the effects should be (in theory, as the pure end-product should be the same racemic amphetamine sulphate no matter what route was used).
I guessed there could be synergistic action between some impurities and the actual amphetamine, so the active-at-milligram-doses is probably not a valid criterion. With that many impurities likely to be present I guess an extraction is out of the question? (I would really appreciate CC's input here, as you are obviously well versed in the synthesis itself.)
To any reader following this thread for advise on who to buy speed from: I hope this discussion doesn't reflect too badly on BM's product. In my opinion it's still great speed, and I actually placed an order with him only a few days ago.
I would love to see a full GC/MS (or equivalent) analysis of his product (and CC's!). Perhaps some enterprising researcher can write an article in something like the Journal of Analytical Toxicology, "Emerging trends in high-purity amphetamine sold directly to consumers over the Internet - Concerns over optical purity and pharmacological action of present impurities". :)
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Hey guys,
I'd like to ask you how long the effects of amphetamine and especially boymaster's stuff last for you?
I had the feeling that 30 mg of boymaster's stuff brought through the whole day. It's hard to tell how long the effects last because they slowly fade out. But I can tell that I felt very strong effects for at least 6 hours and even after 14 hours I was not tired at all.
I'm not surprised about the intensity since I have pretty much no tolerance at the moment, but I am kind of surprised how long the effects last.
Afaik adderall ir is considered to last 4-6 hours and adderall xr should last 8-10 hours.
With that in mind I'm really happy with my low cost alternative. :)
What are your experiences?
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Well said Muslix and Valentinesmith...I think the problem with impurities and such is the plain lack of information and study. Now since the only people who have a vested interest in paying this work in big Pharma it will never happen or be fully reported. There are possible interactions and even allergic reactions that are not fully understood.
Kudos Muslix for the links I am simply too lazy to chase and post those.
I believe that a lot of the effects are variable to situation and very personal..Same with does while there are good starting guidelines everyone has to fish into their zone. My posts are not to discourage or bash any individual vendor unless they have ripped me off. I am being honest in my reviews but must admit sometimes my high fresh speed powered enthusiasm can be misread. I love tis place and have been daddling quite a bit so please let give a disclaimer We are all different people of different ages and body chemistry so only use my excited reviews with that thought in mind.
Please do not misread my intent. I am convinced of BoyMaster's top shelf quality does not disappoint. It is strong, clean and exactly the right gear to buy. I like to keep a couple different vendors gear on hand if there is that chance. Since there are variation I can fight my huge tolerance switching and mixing and matching. Like an alchemist of old. He is a great and patient vendor who contributes on this thread quite well. CapeCrusdaer is also pretty impressive and you should order his gear as well. To be honest without these two vendors there would be nothing to talk about all high ed up on amp. We would still be bitching about how piss poor our choice are.
BoyMaster set a whole new standard here and The CapeCrusader came in only a bit later and took exactly the approach i can admire.
Peace Everyone Get out have some fun
Hilly
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Howdy Most Wanted,
Your experience echos mine. I find BoyMasters gear to have very good lasting power. Remember everyone is different and environment can change things. Also remember that adderall is pharma attempt to still sell amp and tailor it so all the people worried that people are feeling too good are not upset. It is a combination of salts that have different levels of adsorption and activity levels.
I think of Boymasters gear much more like the old black beauties of my youth. Nice fast hard hitting amphetamine. Now if you control your dosing and frequency of use please ive right by eating and sleeping in a scheduled manner. I have run a couple weeks on a couple grams of Boymasters gear without any real drop off in these durations. How you prefer to take your speed also impacts it too. I like the first 4-6 hrs and might add a small bump after that. I am very careful to stop early in my day so i can get to bed and sleeping in normal rythym without the use of sedatives which simply kill me. One valium and I am under water for days...
Enjoy your new found source and fun and push as i think of it. Screw the insane prices for the adderall
Hilly
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Yeah, I don't use enough to get any tolerance so a couple 25 mg lines of BM's gear in the morning will give me a nice light amping for 6-8 hours then I get my appetite back and feel pretty normal. I'm back to baseline within 10 hours and can fall asleep after that.
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Was there not talk of someone releasing dexx powder?
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BM needs some more WEEKS to release the dextro batch.
Am pretty excited.
Has BM released the prices for his dextro? I could release some as well but not quite sure if it would be feasible.. Will see how it goes when BM releases..
CC
Is there anymore news on this?
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I've only recently gone to straight Amph. Started out on Ritalin 2 yrs ago. Last spring was switched to Adderall, 30mg 2X a day. - still was running out. Tried Deathb4Dishonor home made "generic adderall, which helped me through the scrip wait. Then I ordered them again the next month (Aug I think) - 2nd batch felt like pure Amph!
Then he was sold out, so last month I tried BoyMaster, and boy was I feeling great!
I got more this month, and will continue to deal with BM.
I just wondered. I've read the last 10 pages of this forum, and I don't understand why those of you who like to do speed, don't like the "speediness" of it. Screw that dextro shit. I'll take Adderall over Dexedrine anyday. And purest ampjh I can find. - I do take the occasional Valium or Xanax, that I bought on SR, just to have on hand. You have to always search for deals. The prices change on benzos so much. I got 100 10mg Roche Valium for $89, and 100 0.5 Xanax for $86.
I find if I take a few too many benzos at night, it screws with my tolerance. Takes more to get me up and around. I've used the BoyMaster speed when I had no benzos too. I don't know what my pulse and heartrate are, as long as their HIGH!!
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I think I built up too high a tolerance, maybe that's why there's no such thing as "too much" for me.
To each their own. - Just wanted to give my take on it all.
- Best wishes - jagfug
PS Both of Boymaster orders arrived in small upstate NY town, in less than a week!
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I think I've gotten selectively scammed by Amsterdope. I had purchased 10 grams from them before, mediocre gear...but it's cheap and it works. Placed two orders for their 20mg speed listing 3 days apart, which should have made them mail it in two shipments. Shipped to the USA, their new terms made me FE (I know, I know...but supposedly reputable vendor).
A month later neither shipments have arrived. Messaged Amsterdope to ask maybe if it had been shipped late. No reply, but they have read the message. Their rating has also dropped from 98 to 96 in the time I've been waiting for my order.
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To summarize: Amsterdope has mediocre gear, but you still placed 2x 20g orders again. From NL to US the route with the highest %age of lost orders with all vendors. And it didn't arrive. Now you blame Amsterdope.
I am not saying he is or he isn't selectively scamming anyone. But honestly... that wasn't the smartest move on your part. It could be just as well be seized by your customs. Unless proven by some US bill/law/whatever that US-customs have to inform you when they take your illegal import of illicit drugs, I claim they don't need to and just make it disappear.
I am saying: I'm sick of these "I ordered from NL although only a tiny %age come through. Mine didn't come through so all NL are scammers" posts. Not sorry for you, your own fault.
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Have you tried LetGoOfYourEgo? He's domestic in the states. Has some of the most creative packaging i have seen.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/b2863d3072
I highly reccomend this vendor because they are polite, ship fast, and they price their product fairly.
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Alright I need to make some emergency orders from at least 2 diff vendors (While waiting for CapeCrusader) since I'm starting to psychologically become rather agitated from not having speed that hits the spot for a while now.
I have a 1g order from MFUK shipped on saturday but everyone is reporting non deliveries and such so... I'm not certain on that.
There are some new vendors (note that ratings influenced also by non speed sales)
HAS ANYONE ORDERED AND TRIED THEIR PRODUCTS? Please comment.
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BrPower(97)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/c80292d9c8 .. yes it's dutch speed so most likely caffeinated but who knows. I messaged vendor and he said he does not cut it but does not know since he buys by the kilos
Maxhavelaar(99)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/2bfd9b5e94 ... purity claims of 50% and such but pricing is quite bad compared to Boymaster who's confirme 89+% . I asked if there was caffeine in cut and vendor said he is awaiting labtest to arrive next week. Now I'd order if it hit the spot. Once again dutch , and ddutch speed is notoriously cut with caffeine as we all know.
Bungee54(99)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/fe046f0db8 ... good reviews, completely unknown product with sporadic / few feedbacks. German vendor so maybe he's got the decency to just cut with dextrose or something that doesn't bodyload your ass.
Then again, the vendor did NOT reply to my message asking if it was cut with caffeine. Furthermore the vendor page says bulk speed has been delisted due to quality issues... yet he's got a 2g listing he's happy to sell?
I gotta buy. Pronto, delonso. Fuck. Too bad BM's doesn't hit the spot like it does everybody else. With a miracle I get good stuff from MFUK within a few days. I have absolutely zero physical addiction but the psychological addiction is a bit irritating. I don't do speed every day but if I just have it around then I feel calm even when I don't use because.. I know I can turn into Superman instantly with a sniff here or a bomb there.
After these emergency purchases if CC stuff comes through and is as customized to my sensitivities as I believe it may be then I'm buying a boat load. Fuck being dry, the world needs me, Superman.. not fucking mr procrastination socialtard.
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Bungee seems like a good vendor in general, not sure about his speed quality though.
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Bungee seems like a good vendor in general, not sure about his speed quality though.
I reviewed his speed from august somewhere in this thread. In short: not on CC/BM level, but I have had worse. It didn't feel caffeinated to me.
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Ok thanks for the response.. I went against my instincts and disdain for Dutch Speed in general and ordered from both dutch vendors. I expect wet stuff that'll be half weight or something but as long as I can get some motivation going and whatever the fk it is, to keep my sanity until CC gear arrives :) Hopefully, if it is cut with caffeine there'll be LITTLE of it and not amounts that have you shaking and puking... and hopefully it's better than OldAmsterdam which was so bad (50% less weight dried) I barely remember if it did anything but make my heart race (the way a big dose of caffeine would).
Oh well, at least I'll be able to contribute two reviews on what I expect to be average, but average is better than nothing. Maybe if I receive MFUK and combine all the three together I will make some kind of fucked up super speed concoction (in my dreams) and it will all be dandy.
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Today I realized I need 110mg. of CC amph to reach the same productive level I used to get from 50mg. of good MrFUK batch back in September. I actually hope I got weaker batch, and my tolerance didn't increase that much:/ I even had almost two week long break, and I'm taking supplements that are supposed to bring tolerance down..
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Being an Aussie, I want to get some old school speed, not Ice, just good ol' amphetamine sulphate.
I dont wanna buy from Holland, any suggestions on some good stealthy packing from a non redflag country.
I keep going back to BM, what about bungee54, Ive read all about FUK, why so cheap compared to here man, SUCH a difference..
any suggestions?
thanx
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Being an Aussie, I want to get some old school speed, not Ice, just good ol' amphetamine sulphate.
I dont wanna buy from Holland, any suggestions on some good stealthy packing from a non redflag country.
I keep going back to BM, what about bungee54, Ive read all about FUK, why so cheap compared to here man, SUCH a difference..
any suggestions?
thanx
I haven't heard of ANY Aussies having luck with FUKer, including me.
BM seems pretty reliable .
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Have you tried LetGoOfYourEgo? He's domestic in the states. Has some of the most creative packaging i have seen.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/b2863d3072
Can't see his listing, but there was another US domestic vendor as well. I believe what we see here is some guys reselling BM and CC's gear. Would be one hell of a coincidence that awesome speed just didn't exist on here and now it's even in Murrica. The other guy is an even better example, can't remember the name.
@ohnoes: It's funny cause FUK's speed is pretty much the only one that "didn't hit the spot" for me. Said it before: just felt like an appetite suppressant. My reference is generic Adderall and BM's is closest imho. But everyone reacts differently.
You can always try FUK, my suggestion: Buy only small amount. No big amount was ever reported to be good. Stay in escrow. If speed is not 90% as promised, go in to resolution center and collect 100% refund.
You can also do that with bigger amounts actually, but it's much more likely that you just get a bigger amount of crap for free. Needs a bit of patience though, since it can take a while.
Yes, yes, scamming can backfire on a vendor and here's how. :)
Yeah I discussed MFUK before. His first two orders I received were the best speed I've tried, much cleaner and motivating than both batches of BM I tried. The third order I received (1.5g) was total rubbish and clearly not the same product or cut with something that created lots of bodyload and no dopamine effect at all.
I now ordered 1g and asked for his personal UK stash. Hopefully the product is as the original two orders because those are the only really good speed orders I've received here on SR so far.
So, I did the two dutch impulse buys now just to cover my ass if FUK does not deliver good stuff again.
Anyways, not ordering from across the pond at this moment because I need speedy deliveries.. because I'm fiending despite not being physically addicted. Just haven't used any for a week+.
My last dose of speed was 70mg or something orally of BM which had pretty much zero effect as opposed to the very docile better than nothing effects I'd get from 40mg first dose. So tolerance rampup was quite quick indeed from just 5 days use with 2 day split...
Got to be careful with half-lives of gaba agonists as well as they'll dull out stuff next day. I should probably just stick to ambien since that stuff seems to last only an hour for me. Anyways, my GABA-agonist collection is now vast in preparation for the speed.
I've got xanax, phenibut, zopiclone but no speed! argh. lol. I have finally found after nearly 30 years the one drug that truly gives me a psychological addiction (still I am able to take several day to week long breaks without binging).
Anyways, God-speed... speed.
I now have 4 separate vendor scheduled shipments inbound. Lets see who makes it and in what condition. Feels like I'm at an amphetamine casino playing speed slot machines, quad bars/cherries please. I just need to get out of this demotivated, lethargic state for a day or two to kickstart my shit again. Fulltiltpoker is back in 22 days and I need to be ready to grind 10 hours sessions.
@aussies-
I'd hate to be you guyses. Seems like everything gets nabbed or takes eons.
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what two dutch vendors did you order from?
Low price $30 and expect average product 2g from BrPower (apparanrlty wet and loses half it's weight).. but these are emergencies. I have a busy schedule coming up.
Overpriced $20 0.5g from Max.. something (99) apparanrlty also wet and loses some weight for description but decent feedback. He wrote a cogent response and I argued that I will be willing to pay $20 for half a gram for now and maybe in the future he can adjust his listings at larger amountts accordingly vs the big guns BM(not for me but for everyone else) /CC (confident this wil hit my spot)...... too bad fireuk went a bit off the initial qualities else he'd be right up there in the mix.
Anywys these 3 orders should hopefully hold me until I can receive some of CC grade new batch. If they're of half decent quality they will since I don't blow through shit with binges.. I do have quite a rampant toeklrance decrease but still, with 3.5g of mixed speed at my disposal I should be good for 2-3 weeks at pace.
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Correspondence between me and Maxha.. something (99)
ohnoes123 Hi, is your amphetamine caffeine free?
I am intolerant to caffeine mixed with amphetamine sulfate. Answer honestly, I know the majority of Dutch speed is moronically cut with caffeine and I test all speed for caffeine that I order-. It only creates unhealthy side effects.
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wait till friday next week and i have the lab results in. i know its very strong (i'm a seasoned user and the smell blew me away) but i have no lab results ready. i know about the caffeine and cannot give a guarantee that there is no caffeine in there, but i will have this info with certainty friday next week. i actually just put the listing up as a market experiment (i do have the product) and was suprised to see the responses to it. i will message you as soon as i have the results in, cheers, max
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I am Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde in reverse. Without my amphetamine medicine I become Mr Hyde.... With it I am Dr Jekyll. Hate being mr Hyde but he is a necessity, if he was not there he would not have me appreciate the magic of certain amphetamines and the extreme benefits I can use them for. Once upon a time a half gram of Northern street speed had me play a poker casino session of 2500 euro profit due to extreme focus. So this shit is invaluable to me... First two orders of FireUK stuff also provided profit beyond the cost.
Anyways time to pop an ambien and see if there's anything inbound from the UK tomorrow. Todays mail was just vitamins. Tomorrow with shipping time I should receive fireuk.. thursday at the latest. hopefully the oranjes can get theri stuff to me before the weekend.. else it's gonna be a long weekend... still, I've had quick delivery success from NL to my location within this timeframe. I'd be disappointed if not at least one of them made it before friday.
I will be back then with with my thoughts.
Predictions:
BrPower will be average portentially cut with caffeine but doubt as bad as OldAmsterdam.
MaxH will probably be better quality and less likely cut with caffeine. He has the audicity to lab test his stuff so I've a little bit more confidence here.
MFUK: It will be brilliant, it will be bad, it will not show up at all.
I expect at least 2/3 of these to arrive. Then I have my full faith on capecrusader.
Mabye I will be abe to buy BM again one day and combine it at certain ratios with CC or others to get the effects I want. Who knows, just get my shit so I can start earning fat stacks at poker again, while earning fat tits in the clubs too. I got no game sober. I got no game on alcohol... but speed dick's aim is true every time I go out. Just the pure confidence and suave harvests many fine ladies phone numbers. After first impressions are done I have no problem meeting them with confidence day 2. Speed for first impressions. Always. Never fails to impress. Wonder drug... as long as you control the shit out of it. If you don't, good look to you boyoh.....
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I too purchased 5grams of pink speed from aakoven a few weeks ago (around 14th Nov), not too sure if it is the same batch being sold now, but, here is my honest opinion:
- Product smelt and tasted like amphetamine, so did not feel the need to test up with the marquis testing kit.
-Weighed out 1/2 a gram for both me and my partner each and drank it in some water at around 6pm
- Took about 30/40 mins to start feeling effects.
- Hands were a little shaky and had to go to the toilet (as you normally do).
- After about an 1hr I was not getting the buzzie kind of warm feeling where your thoughts are clear and feel very positive.
- Instead it made us feel a little to very anxious, fuzzy vision and a bit drowsy with a minor headache.
- We did feel a little more awake by taking the stuff but just felt like taking a strong does of sudafed.
- By 11pm I felt like going to bed.
I fully respect this seller for putting their necks on the line and being very professional with SR but my wife and I feel they also need to know the truth too from our side of the fence.
Thank you for your understanding.
Glad I aint the only to feel negative effects on speed. I picked up locally. theres some serious peng whizz in Manchester right now. It burns my tongue, the guy said gotta be careful with it! its dynamite, sticky oily yumyum.
Keep up the good work guys, your reports make my life better! I'm waiting on CapeCrusader to cook up something special too. God speed to that man
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Bungee54(99)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/fe046f0db8 ... good reviews, completely unknown product with sporadic / few feedbacks. German vendor so maybe he's got the decency to just cut with dextrose or something that doesn't bodyload your ass.
Then again, the vendor did NOT reply to my message asking if it was cut with caffeine. Furthermore the vendor page says bulk speed has been delisted due to quality issues... yet he's got a 2g listing he's happy to sell?
Hi!
We absolutely DO NOT CUT any of our products..we get our Speed & Mdma from the same chemist.
We are very sorry if we really did not answer your message. But we make sure we answer each and every message.
So please double check it.
Especially a message asking if we cut our Products.
We would have told you with delight , that also the scammer would answer NO and that we are not the ones who you should ask that.
But that we have principles and you could check out our reviews from customers.
The thing with our delisting was that our packagin dude guy wanted to open up the last bulk pack as he smelled something strange. Not the usual smell.Until we cannot clearly state that this is good quality we wont send it out and we think this clearly speaks for our business ethics.
We finished all open orders from quality we know is good and refunded (+ extra for the inconvinience) the 3-4 we could not send out.
If you buy bulk it can happen sometimes something is not in order. But we have the luxury of simply giving it back..
Thank you for the wink on the 2g listings ! Somehow we hadn't delisted them..but it is now offline.
We look forward to serve you sometimes in the future ! Cheers
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With that many impurities likely to be present I guess an extraction is out of the question? (I would really appreciate CC's input here, as you are obviously well versed in the synthesis itself.)
You are quite right.. A simple extraction is not sufficient.. Producing a chemically pure product is not as simple as finding a synthesis online and following the steps.. This is not baking a cake.. This is chemistry.. You must know how to control a reaction and how to apply the work up correctly.. With this latest batch i have used advanced and time consuming techniques to produce a chemically pure product.. It is pure snow white and completely odorless.. I cannot wait to share this product with the rest of you.. I just hope that everybody can appreciate this product i am sharing with you and not complain about things like price.. This is the closest you will come to pharmaceutical grade..
Best Regards
CC
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Bungee54(99)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/fe046f0db8 ... good reviews, completely unknown product with sporadic / few feedbacks. German vendor so maybe he's got the decency to just cut with dextrose or something that doesn't bodyload your ass.
Then again, the vendor did NOT reply to my message asking if it was cut with caffeine. Furthermore the vendor page says bulk speed has been delisted due to quality issues... yet he's got a 2g listing he's happy to sell?
Hi!
We absolutely DO NOT CUT any of our products..we get our Speed & Mdma from the same chemist.
We are very sorry if we really did not answer your message. But we make sure we answer each and every message.
So please double check it.
Especially a message asking if we cut our Products.
We would have told you with delight , that also the scammer would answer NO and that we are not the ones who you should ask that.
But that we have principles and you could check out our reviews from customers.
I double checked and you did not respond. I don't care if people cut their speed. This is the norm, I have absolutely no problem if people cut speed with dextrose and such. I mean I love eating dextrose tablets, they're tasty and do fuck all.
It's just people who cut with caffeine because they try ot increase the speedy effects (first of all caffeine has much shorter duration than amphetamine, so you will experience a caffeine crash thus causing jitteriness, anxiety while you would still be fine on the amphetamine). In addition to this, caffeine releases adrenaline and this somethign you really don't need in addition to the dopamine activity of ampehtamine. Cardiovascular health gets fucked by this combo.
It's good that you held shipping back on it due to the smell and you seem like a decent vendor. I would suggest you would have your amphetamine labtested if you are buying it in large quantities and have no hand in the production of it.
Or at least have a good experienced user (who has used high potency speed, can detect bad cutting agents such as caffeine) test it out for you... rather than just having some guy smell your product. Heck, order some of CC or BM and you will know two different forms of high potency uncut speed :) or just send ur shit to a lab.
This is why I am concerned and I am strongly against caffeinated amphetamine sulfate. It is just plain stupid and does not help in any way shape or form yet so many stoned dutch vendors think it's a good idea. The only people who can tolerate this type of speed are people who are not caffeine sensitive or have caffeine tolerance from being coffee / tea drinkers regularly.
As of not BrPower has shiped his 2g wet dutch speed which I'm pretty sure will be with caffeine so I will only use it in tiny amounts. If FireUK stuff arrives (I feel sceptical considering all his threads right now are people FEing and not receiving) I might mix them up to avoid too much caffeine.
My order from maxh* whatever I'm being asked for FE because I'm in Ireland and he says customs have intercepted two of his packages. I think this is a load of bullshit because I have order plenty of powders and speeds from Holland no problem and I know a guy who works irish customs. They have very very limited resources and their dogs only really look for cannabis and illegal tobacco. They don't really xray envelopes. If you vacuum seal speed then it is perfectly fine.
So i am refusing to FE for this reason (his product is already overpriced at $20 for 0.5g excl shipping when we have BM and CC with double the potencies and less than half the prices)... because none of his feedback mentions non receivals on his speed. He sells maroc hash which stinks and may have been intercepted by dogs either in holland already or in ireland due to poor packaging.
He also mentions that he uses something superior to vacuum sealing
Oh well, thanks to CapeCrusader my saviour I will hopefully receive some magical speed before my heavy schedule begins in early november. You can tell that the best sellers (CC and BM) know their shit, and everyone else are just reselling kilos of whatever the fuck which they don't even bother to have tested.
Until then I will use phenibut here and there. It's a GABA-B agonist but not purely, since it has dopaminergic effects it can hold off my speed craving decently enough. Only problem is you can only use phenibut 1-2 twice a week tops. Else it stops functioning, you blow out your dopamine- screw your gaba and enter a world of shit :)
Again, phenibut is excellent compound to have if you are a speed user. It can act as withdrawal aid if you been week binging, or comedown aid. It also legal and you can buy like 50g for $11 or something on ebay (doses range from 1-2g)
So there you have it, if I receive BrPower or FireUK this week I'll finally be able to go out and hit the casino and poker games, then pick up some ladies :).. y aknow, unless it's shit product then I'll just sit at home and beat my dick like it owes me money.
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With that many impurities likely to be present I guess an extraction is out of the question? (I would really appreciate CC's input here, as you are obviously well versed in the synthesis itself.)
You are quite right.. A simple extraction is not sufficient.. Producing a chemically pure product is not as simple as finding a synthesis online and following the steps.. This is not baking a cake.. This is chemistry.. You must know how to control a reaction and how to apply the work up correctly.. With this latest batch i have used advanced and time consuming techniques to produce a chemically pure product.. It is pure snow white and completely odorless.. I cannot wait to share this product with the rest of you.. I just hope that everybody can appreciate this product i am sharing with you and not complain about things like price.. This is the closest you will come to pharmaceutical grade..
Best Regards
CC
This post made my day, thank you CC, you're a wizard.
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Yo im a long time lurker of amphetamine thread so I thought i would post my 2 cents.
This is for all those aussies that are hesitant because of our customs...
Ordered 2g off BM 13 days ago including weekends, got here today. Packaging is ingenious so there is no need to worry about it sending off alerts.
It was EXACTLY on weight, most honest and reliable vendor i've ever purchased off.
This whiz is better than anything you will find in aus, maybe the world. Bombed .05 and i am going 1000kms an hour.
Lets really get behind guys like BM, CC and show them our full support as they are producing the goods day in day out. We need to keep them around for as long as possible!!!
/End of pointless post
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With that many impurities likely to be present I guess an extraction is out of the question? (I would really appreciate CC's input here, as you are obviously well versed in the synthesis itself.)
You are quite right.. A simple extraction is not sufficient.. Producing a chemically pure product is not as simple as finding a synthesis online and following the steps.. This is not baking a cake.. This is chemistry.. You must know how to control a reaction and how to apply the work up correctly.. With this latest batch i have used advanced and time consuming techniques to produce a chemically pure product.. It is pure snow white and completely odorless.. I cannot wait to share this product with the rest of you.. I just hope that everybody can appreciate this product i am sharing with you and not complain about things like price.. This is the closest you will come to pharmaceutical grade..
Best Regards
CC
I didn't mean to imply that what you're doing is easy, in fact I applaud your tenacity. :)
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Anyone know what's up with BM?
Is he running low on stock?
Should I buy 10g to get anything at all?
Or should I wait til my PM gets read?
Will he switch to selling only 1g orders at $50?
Are all orders with BM an adventure?
I hate doing that, but using this thread seems to be the only way to get some attention here. And there is still a tiny chance to get some speed by the end of next week.
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Anyone know what's up with BM?
Is he running low on stock?
Should I buy 10g to get anything at all?
Or should I wait til my PM gets read?
Will he switch to selling only 1g orders at $50?
Are all orders with BM an adventure?
I hate doing that, but using this thread seems to be the only way to get some attention here. And there is still a tiny chance to get some speed by the end of next week.
I'm guessing he's busy-busy making money, top 5% and 322 fans.. It took him a few days to read my last PM, but he did solve my issue immediately after reading it. I hate waiting as much as the next guy, but saying it's an adventure ordering from him is just hyperbolic.
It will be interesting to see how CC handles the inevitable flood of new orders once he has his constant supply going and starts climbing on the "Bestselling" list. Let's hope he is already prepared with a customer service department, Indian call centre and everything. :)
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I'm guessing he's busy-busy making money, top 5% and 322 fans.. It took him a few days to read my last PM, but he did solve my issue immediately after reading it. I hate waiting as much as the next guy, but saying it's an adventure ordering from him is just hyperbolic.
Just as I deleted my rant, as I really have no reason to be pissed with all the sunshine I received from the west coast and apologized for my rant, there's new speed showing up. Seems that karma thing works after all =]
So my apologies again, here too, for the rant that took this place earlier. Should have eaten the sunshine instead.
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Hi all,
I just received 2g from BM, 7 days from purchase to my nose. Packaging is stealth enough so no worry on this side. Tested 0.03 / 0.04 3 hours ago and it transformed my low-ass day to a very energic one! Did all the late work and boss will be happy. A bit stronger than last order from MrFireUK (the good batch) and definitely woth a shot!! Don't feel any special body load, and i' am VERY talkative (a bit too much for the workplace...)
Thanks BM!!
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Hey guys, did anybody getting speed from Afterhour? Can you tell me you're experience, especially quality?
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Since FUK turned out to be a scammer. I';m down a count. While waiiting for CC ieend someting for next week and I'm not super trusting thsi dutch shit to do me.
I got $23 inym
account from a cancelled order. any trust worth soul wanna sell me some gear or that?
ack, hopefullthis BrPower guy arrives tomorrow and holds me over the weeekend,
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I am so fucking pissed off. Are really all dutch speed vendors complete morons? I did not receive anything. I make 3 emergency orders so that I don't have to go this week and then next again without shit.
BrPower listed as in transit on Tuesday.. Now I received LSD from FartBomber (In holland too) on wednesday, it was shipped on monday.
I msgd this BrPower guy early whether he shipped and what or not and he ignored my message despite logging in both today and yesterday.
Obviously FireUK sscammed me, for the second time. Firsst time at least I got some kinda piece of shit powder. Now I just got nothing so that fucker, I hope he overdoses asap. Obviously the third maxh something I'm not gonna FE on his overpriced untested 50% claimed 0.5g for $20... idiot, now he doesn't have listings. Probably dodged the bullet there.
FUCKING CUNTS. How hard is it to buy speed I like... It's so hard I have to buy it from the southest point of motherfucking AFRICA.
ANGRY AS HELL. So many junkie cunt vendors, SR staff needs to do better.
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I am so fucking pissed off. Are really all dutch speed vendors complete morons? I did not receive anything. I make 3 emergency orders so that I don't have to go this week and then next again without shit.
I can tell you that the only people I trust to buy speed from on here at the moment is BM. And CC, whenever he puts his amazing stuff back up for sale.
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I can tell you that the only people I trust to buy speed from on here at the moment is BM. And CC, whenever he puts his amazing stuff back up for sale.
This.
I will never buy speed cut with caffeine and other shit again as long as these two vendors exist.
Long live the road and long live BM and CC!
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I'm waiting on some coins to order 2 grams from BM. I'll order from CC when he has listings back too.
Anyone tried Jalepano's speed? 25grams for I think $150. Surely can't be 90%, but is it worth doing?
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I keep forgetting how strong BM is -- I'm so used to the bad quality speed over the years. Orally ingesting BM's stuff is the strongest ROA, IMO. Just one small pinch in my coffee gets me flying the whole day, almost too much. I hope BM stays forever!!
Edit: and CC too! Can't wait for his next batch!
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i have about 2g of 3 remaining.
its mostly boy master ....any recommendations on amount to take, how to take it and when for avg 9-5 work productivity?
it seems i have had pretty bad sleep and just losing focus while on it....its almost doing the reverse of what i want it to do. find myself second guessing shit and not being able to talk right! hahaha
also i barely eat at all...so, idk...crazy
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I'd suggest 20-30mg upon waking up, and another 20-30mg redose if needed, no later than noon if it's affecting your sleep.
For some reason, I can redose speed as late as 5-6pm and still sleep at midnight. Preworkout stuff with 1,3dmaa keeps me up all night if I take it at noon though. Different stims affect people alot differently I guess.
Larger doses of speed feel great for me, but focus is shot at work. I just want to talk and walk around or read shit on the internet all day. Can be fun though. :)
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Stickafinger, I'm pretty sure I've seen your posts in the Meth review thread, so I'm guessing that you've got at least a small amount of tolerance. BM's gear has a pretty strong physical component, and I've found it not totally optimal for things like studying. It's good for motivating for house-cleaning, partying and such, but a little too 'speedy' for keeping focus at work and such.
I'd suggest smaller (<20mg) doses for work-related things. I find that 15mg first thing in the morning, followed by 10-15mg 4-5 hours later is pretty good. You'll miss the euphoria, and it won't be quite as 'fun', but the increase in focus is noticable, and there's still the possibility of getting a decent night's rest.
It can be difficult to get sleep at night after a day on the BM gear, so I suggest taking it earlier in the day, and making sure that you've got 8 hours or so between your last dose and bedtime. Taking it early in the day, and then quitting, will also help with the temptation to binge and make a night of it, which is pretty easy with Amph as strong as this. Personally, I find myself much more likely to go on a multi-day binge on Amph because it doesn't tweak me out as much as meth. I can still look and act like a normal person after an all-nighter on speed. After a night of meth, I look like a fucking tweaker, so I've got to be careful of what I'm supposed to do the next day.
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thanks bro. yeah i guess im just gonna get a script on adderals ....i thought this pure amph shit was gonna be a great cheap alternative
im over the meth game. was really bogus in all seriousness. it was a game of russian roulette with my well being. fuck that noise...of the many purchases i did, i got like 2 good sessions and the rest was catastrophic tolls on my mental and physical self. not worth it. at all.
adderal via health insurance for 10 bucks is a mighty good deal. fuck it. maybe ill open a sellers page on SR and make some real money!
haha....im being serious too :)
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Im noticing a significant hike in price compared to mr FUK. Is he really worth it?
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Serion, I assume you're speaking of BM. Considering that FUK only had mediocre product in the weeks before he turned scammer, I don't think it's fair to compare current selection to his offerings.
BoyMaster is currently the only Amph vendor reliably selling high-quality (90%+) product. His price is high compared to the low-quality vendors, but it's reasonable when compared to Adderall prices. Considering that he's currently got the market cornered, the price seems fair. There's a market for what he's offering, and I wouldn't look for prices to come down when CC gets back on the scene, either. It's worth it if you care about taking high-quality drugs. If you're just looking to get the cheap stuff, feel free to roll the dice with one of the dutch speed vendors. You get what you pay for. I'll gladly pay a premium for quality.
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Everyone else noticed how much posting has slowed down? lol..... with it now basically becoming 1 guy with 1 type of speed.. unless you want caffeine powder.
I wouldn't have a problem with BM's prices if it was speed which my brain agreed upon (and I've done doses orally and nasally from 10 to 100mg : ( please don't take 100mg. unless you've developed tolerance or want your heart to explode). Still lingering in the annoyance of finding the perfect speed for my receptors, only for the guy to end up scamming me but happy he didn't wait one more purchase for me to make a bulk order. So I simply don't order. I would buy if it was like half the price it is now... or if I got the effects everyoen else gets then i'd pay same.
I am waiting for BrPower order to come through. Which should've been here last friday. If it's not here today I will start punching walls.
I even ordered 2 tabs of "speed" pills from TambourineMan in canada...
I imagine (hope) these will have amphetamine sulfate... and meth... and no other shit in them. since there are no reviews. Of course
$17 for two "tabs of speed" pills is probably crazy price but what the fuck. I got to make sure I get some god damned stimulant at some stage.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/b4f73b2a8b
I hope they're something like arigolo or whatever who got good reviews... but I think the prices of these tabs are nutty but whatever.
*rageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee************
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No UK speed vendors atm ;-(
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Who is this vendor CC? :)
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CC's vendor account was suspended/closed wasn't it? Or did we BM the wrong link?
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No CC's account isn't closed, but no listenings up
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/c5e6d57e98
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You guys give great feedback on CC's product, yet he has very few reviews on his SR profile, why is this?
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Who was the guy with japaleno's gear?
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Everyone else noticed how much posting has slowed down?
Yeah that's because nothing really happens.. Most good vendors either gone rogue or are out of stock and there's only 1 legit seller (for now) left.
AAkovens rating is still dropping, that's a good thing I guess ;D
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You guys give great feedback on CC's product, yet he has very few reviews on his SR profile, why is this?
He did samples at first which of course left no feedback, then had only two runs where he was selling as he was a new seller. BM has had considerably more product ready to go during the last month. During each of those times, his product was extremely good. It seems after someone released testing results showing around his product at around 70-75% purity (I can't find the exact percent, but still extremely good, but compared to BM which got a test result of 89.6%), he is now currently improving his formula to increase purity, IIRC. He will be back in December with more product. Although it was tested slightly weaker, his had considerably less body-load than BM's speed and some people prefer that which is why BM and CC are the best currently, they both offer top notch sulfate that are at different ends of the speed spectrum. Personally, I use BM for getting work done and CC for more enjoyment.
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Man BM is now down to 7g's of 1g listing; I knew I should have got another 10 for safe keeping. Glad I at least followed my mantra, when it is good--buy a lot. I love to go back and forth between CC's and BM's gear, even MrF's (Fucker). I was doing 60-120mg of their stuff when I first got it, but have learned quickly you can get similar desired effects with a lot less ~30mg with a lot less side effects. It has just taken some discipline, breaks, nutrition, exercise, and a good balance of B vitamins, folate, and caffeine.
Boymaster, I am optimistically assuming you are are selling what you have left before going to market with your new dex batch? ??? ??? ??? :-\ :-\ :-\
CC, I know you will be ready in a few weeks; thanks for the communication! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
I guess we should sample some other vendors at this point just to have a back up plan?
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No CC's account isn't closed, but no listenings up
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/c5e6997e98
Yes, our mistake. We bookmark wrong vendor - there was another vendor with almost same name.
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I guess we should sample some other vendors at this point just to have a back up plan?
Our choices now:
juergen2001 • His polish speed is currently bestselling in the section. 2g-$28 (14/g) GERMAN
jalapeno • Has anyone ever tested this? 25g-$167 (6.8/g) GERMAN
CrystalMethCat • Never read anything about this either, reviews talk about very wet gear.. 1g-$22 GERMAN
maxhavelaar • Only sells 0.5g, says over 50% purity but no reviews to back it up. 0.5g/$20 (40/g) DUTCH
fcuk REALITY • Only sells in 10g, 1 review saying it's great.. ::) 10g/$136 (13.6/g) DUTCH
nordicsupply • Same old, only 10g and expensive. No reviews tho. 10g/$269.50 (26.9/g) SWEDISH
Anyone ordered anything from any of these vendors? I'm inclined to ask maxhavelaar for a sample, got a gut feeling this could be 'decent'. If he really wants to sell shit he obviously has to lower his price, cause it's higher than BoyMaster's :P
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that feeling when you buy BM's final gramme
it's a nice one
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Ok thanks for the response.. I went against my instincts and disdain for Dutch Speed in general and ordered from both dutch vendors. I expect wet stuff that'll be half weight or something but as long as I can get some motivation going and whatever the fk it is, to keep my sanity until CC gear arrives :) Hopefully, if it is cut with caffeine there'll be LITTLE of it and not amounts that have you shaking and puking... and hopefully it's better than OldAmsterdam which was so bad (50% less weight dried) I barely remember if it did anything but make my heart race (the way a big dose of caffeine would).
Mhh.. my latest order from OldAmsterdam was like 5-6 weeks ago and together with the first couple of it was pretty good though the latest batch already was somewhat less quality than the first. One 5g order was very wet but after I've contacted him about that he resolved it nicely by sending a couple of g for free. If the recent quality is as bad as you say than Oldie is out the picture now I guess, dammit I really liked the one day domestic shipping. Maybe I will place a small order with BrPower and cross my fingers but I have to get/read some more info first.
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Mhh.. my latest order from OldAmsterdam was like 5-6 weeks ago and together with the first couple of it was pretty good though the latest batch already was somewhat less quality than the first. One 5g order was very wet but after I've contacted him about that he resolved it nicely by sending a couple of g for free. If the recent quality is as bad as you say than Oldie is out the picture now I guess, dammit I really liked the one day domestic shipping. Maybe I will place a small order with BrPower and cross my fingers but I have to get/read some more info first.
I got some speed from OA back when he started selling, that was the only time that I got sick from speed (racing heart, dizziness...). I guess most people aren't as sensitive to caffeine as me and ohnoes;D I avoid 'dutch' and 'paste' in general when it comes to speed, it never felt good to me.
I have only one dose of CC gear left :'( I bet there will be lots of irritated speed addicts now, when SR quality speed dried up :P
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WTF NO FCKIN SPEED
arghh
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Mhh.. my latest order from OldAmsterdam was like 5-6 weeks ago and together with the first couple of it was pretty good though the latest batch already was somewhat less quality than the first. One 5g order was very wet but after I've contacted him about that he resolved it nicely by sending a couple of g for free. If the recent quality is as bad as you say than Oldie is out the picture now I guess, dammit I really liked the one day domestic shipping. Maybe I will place a small order with BrPower and cross my fingers but I have to get/read some more info first.
I got some speed from OA back when he started selling, that was the only time that I got sick from speed (racing heart, dizziness...). I guess most people aren't as sensitive to caffeine as me and ohnoes;D I avoid 'dutch' and 'paste' in general when it comes to speed, it never felt good to me.
Yeah I've read that before here,
All I can say is that as a daily coffee drinker I personally don't have issues with a certain amount of caffeine in the speed and I've never heard any of my buddies or other people e.g. at dance parties complain about it.
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BTW, did anyone buy that 'lab grade dextoamphetamine powder' ? Listing was on only for a day (?), I wonder what's up with that...
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My OldAmsterdam experience was also with the initial 1g sample sales. It just gave me a bunch of bodyload.
Well, when you add caffeine you're doubling up on stimulants and has CNS stim effects on areas that amp do not touch on. Of course, people have different reactions to caffeine... there's even Caffeine allergy. So it is highly irritating that it's used to cut, downright stupid cause some put so much caffeine in it it you can end up with caffeine like OD as muslix... I guess the idea is that cutters think it'll maintain the effects while they cut down the purity. Even if you don't notice the bodyload, you could still have mild tachycardia vs no caffeine cut where you'd have no tachycardia. I avoid caffeine/coffee in general because it just fucking drains you and it's a shitty addiction. If I'm going to use stimulants then I use proper ones such as amphetamine :)
http://www.livestrong.com/article/290683-signs-symptoms-of-caffeine-allergy/
http://www.energyfiend.com/caffeine-allergy-top-20-symptoms
In fact I believe I have caffeine allergy because I will get most of these symptoms just from drinking coffee/taking caffeine... added in significant amount with speed then I absolutely need to take a benzo because things start going haywire. a large dose of caffeine gives me heavier bodyload then good pure speed but not even 1% as good effects so..
I received my BrPower 2g yesterday. I'm not testing it until Thursday-Friday when I get my order of downers. It was impressively sealed.. haven't seen seal like that but the fact is that IT NEEDS IT.. because it is SUPER WET and stinks like hell, dutch speed indeed... I bet it will lose half almost weight and turn into 1g dry. The inside of the vacuum plastic is wet (and outside of the ziplock)
Something to keep in mind when you buy these "wet speeds".. you're paying double per Gram than what you think you're paying.
I will experiment with some more different downers. I've only tried, etizolam, xanax, valium and phenibut to induce sleep/comedown so far. Trying to find the best downer for me at least, to avoid that day after where half-life could lessen the speed effects.
Bought (not on SR, I bet if I bought this on SR it would've added up to $1000 or something ridic lol)
20 tabs Dormicum 15mg (zopiclone 15mg)
20 tabs Ambien-10mg Blister (Zolpidem 10mg)
20 tabs Ativan 2 mg( lorazepam 2 mg)
20 tabs Rivotryl-2mg Blister (Clonazepam 2mg)
20 tabs Mogadon 10mg (Nitrazepam) Blister
10 tabs Xanax 5mg Blister
I'll see which one is best (obv I already know about the xanax, just bought it because I've never seen 5mg xanax's before and it's dependable! obviously doubt I'd take an entire 5mg). The z-drugs might be better but who knows! I do know zolpidem has super short effects for me so it wouldn't carry into next day.
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I will experiment with some more different downers. [...]
20 tabs Dormicum 15mg (zopiclone 15mg)
20 tabs Ambien-10mg Blister (Zolpidem 10mg)
20 tabs Ativan 2 mg( lorazepam 2 mg)
20 tabs Rivotryl-2mg Blister (Clonazepam 2mg)
20 tabs Mogadon 10mg (Nitrazepam) Blister
10 tabs Xanax 5mg Blister
Dormicum is not zopiclone, it's Roche brand midazolam.
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I was going to try out Jalapeno, but he will only do FE for international orders, no guarantee delivery. And will no do samples/orders under 25 grams. I'm not risking $160+ for what's likely wet dutch speed. He was quick at answering messages though.
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I was going to try out Jalapeno, but he will only do FE for international orders, no guarantee delivery. And will no do samples/orders under 25 grams. I'm not risking $160+ for what's likely wet dutch speed. He was quick at answering messages though.
Amph is cutted with caffeine (the best way) and it is a rock (not wet), he told me.
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"the best way"? is that your words or his?
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I will experiment with some more different downers. [...]
20 tabs Dormicum 15mg (zopiclone 15mg)
20 tabs Ambien-10mg Blister (Zolpidem 10mg)
20 tabs Ativan 2 mg( lorazepam 2 mg)
20 tabs Rivotryl-2mg Blister (Clonazepam 2mg)
20 tabs Mogadon 10mg (Nitrazepam) Blister
10 tabs Xanax 5mg Blister
Dormicum is not zopiclone, it's Roche brand midazolam.
Hm just copied and pasted from the list. I have no idea if I'm getting midazolam or zopiclone then :) I'm guessing it's zopiclone by dosage and cost however and calling it Dormicum is an error. I was intending to get zopiclone but midazolam would be fine too, as long as it's different.
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"the best way"? is that your words or his?
Definitely not mine 8). His words
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Mhh.. my latest order from OldAmsterdam was like 5-6 weeks ago and together with the first couple of it was pretty good though the latest batch already was somewhat less quality than the first. One 5g order was very wet but after I've contacted him about that he resolved it nicely by sending a couple of g for free. If the recent quality is as bad as you say than Oldie is out the picture now I guess, dammit I really liked the one day domestic shipping. Maybe I will place a small order with BrPower and cross my fingers but I have to get/read some more info first.
I got some speed from OA back when he started selling, that was the only time that I got sick from speed (racing heart, dizziness...). I guess most people aren't as sensitive to caffeine as me and ohnoes;D I avoid 'dutch' and 'paste' in general when it comes to speed, it never felt good to me.
Yeah I've read that before here,
All I can say is that as a daily coffee drinker I personally don't have issues with a certain amount of caffeine in the speed and I've never heard any of my buddies or other people e.g. at dance parties complain about it.
I drink 1-12 cups of coffee every day, and combine it with all sorts of amphetamines without a second thought. That said, if it's actually IN the amphetamines and I can't control the dosage of it, it will definitely twist things toward a paranoid unhappy time with only a tiny amount too much.
If you have no tolerance for amp and a high tolerance for caffeine, sure, why would speed cut with large amounts of caffeine bother you? Single cup of coffee can have 200mg if it's a good strong one. If you have a tolerance for amp and either no tolerance for caffeine or even a very high one, you're going to need so much speed to get the feel of the amphetamines that you'll probably be way over on the caffeine and have a bad time (not to mention feel like shit -- take 5 caffeine pills at the same time and you'll know exactly what speed cut with caffeine feels like for somebody who ingests amphetamines more than rarely).
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I dried the 2g I received from BrPower.
I lost precisely 910mg of weight so pretty much half of it gone just from drying. Oh well, I expected as much.
Actually it's not even bone dry yet. It's still a bit moist..
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Today I realized I need 110mg. of CC amph to reach the same productive level I used to get from 50mg. of good MrFUK batch back in September. I actually hope I got weaker batch, and my tolerance didn't increase that much:/ I even had almost two week long break, and I'm taking supplements that are supposed to bring tolerance down..
...and today I realized that it was 5-htp messing up with my drug receptors. I noticed the weakening effect has on mdma/methylone before, but it seems it's the same for amphetamines. I stopped taking 5-htp, and now 70mg. of CC amph gets me going alright.
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Serotonin supplements lower your dopamine levels while raising serotonin. It may weaken your mdma/bk-mdma experiences as well because they do act on dopamine in fact you wouldn't get that high they didn't- even tho they blow out serotonin primarily.
So yeah, don't take 5-htp... basically.
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Interesting..I was taking 5-htp as well after too many days of use of mdma/speed. It helps cleaning out the mind. Also noticed 5-htp AT THE SAME time with amphetamines use is reducing as explained the effect.
I'm also taking, during my days/weeks of break, Vitamin B Complex and L-Tyrosine.Nice supplements working together with 5-htp.
What can be used to reintegrate Dopamine?
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Any word on Boy Master? Is he done? Or just down for a bit........
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do not ever dare thinking it's done..it just CAN'T be so :(
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BM will be back, be patient and just take a tolerance break. ;)
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so whos the current top speedy suppliers? looking for clean and pure and in EU.
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so whos the current top speedy suppliers? looking for clean and pure and in EU.
with those parameters... nobody.
I may even start looking into this myself. just do UK to UK based amphetamine freebase.
I know a guy who knows a guy that cooks the stuff. Straight from the lab, oily stinking amphetamine. Best i've ever had. had me up for 7 days...
But selling does require some patience and starting up costs. Not sure about that
I dont trust anybody selling speed on SR except CapeCrusader, and he's freelance chemist
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Do it NumNuts!
I'd love a UK to UK supplier of good quality amp. There's barely any decent at the moment even international
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this is where you can find our pills.
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So far we only have positive comments.
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Boohhh NumNuts :P
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I know a guy who knows a guy that cooks the stuff. Straight from the lab, oily stinking amphetamine. Best i've ever had. had me up for 7 days...
What a coincidence I know a guy on a forum who knows a guy who knows a guy that cooks the stuff too ;)
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Interesting..I was taking 5-htp as well after too many days of use of mdma/speed. It helps cleaning out the mind. Also noticed 5-htp AT THE SAME time with amphetamines use is reducing as explained the effect.
I'm also taking, during my days/weeks of break, Vitamin B Complex and L-Tyrosine.Nice supplements working together with 5-htp.
What can be used to reintegrate Dopamine?
Everyone who's into amphetamines should check out this thread on BL:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/609051-Amphetamine-Neurotoxicity-and-Tolerance-Reduction-Prevention-II
The Basic Stack.
- ~250mg elemental magnesium at bed. Why: magnesium deficiency is extremely common and known to worsen neurotoxic measures in mouse models. May also help with bruxism (jaw clenching)
- ~1-5mg sublingual melatonin 3 hours before bed. Why: helps regulate sleep cycle, potent antioxidant, several neuroprotective mechanisms.
- Stay hydrated, preferably with high quality fruit juices (such as 100% blueberry) Why: do I really need to explain this?
- Eat a balanced diet rich in dark fruits and vegetables. Why: Why: do I really need to explain this? Make sure you eat period.
- Avoid overheating. Why: Elevated body temperature has been linked to increased neurotoxicity in mouse models
- Coenzyme Q10 at 100mg/day in a softgel or oil based formulation (preferably taken with food). Why: extremely long half life antioxidant, various beneficial effects on mitochondrial function.
- Avoid sleep deprivation. Why: your body needs sleep whether you want to or not.
- A good multivitamin, or at the very least vitamins A,C,E, and D as well as selenium at a significant portion of the RDA value. Malnutrition is a very real concern with amphetamine use,
-Low dose ASA ~81mg/day, anti-inflammatory drugs have shown to reduce neurotoxic measures in several models, also might give your cardiovascular system a break.
- Keep your dose as low as possible.
I'm already following this regiment for almost two weeks. Can't say if these supplements help much, but I'm still alive and well:)
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I was going to try out Jalapeno, but he will only do FE for international orders, no guarantee delivery. And will no do samples/orders under 25 grams. I'm not risking $160+ for what's likely wet dutch speed. He was quick at answering messages though.
Amph is cutted with caffeine (the best way) and it is a rock (not wet), he told me.
no samples because the charge is changed all 10 day ... the sample arrieves i have a new batch here also pointless
no orders under 25 grams at MOMENT because i have to many orders at moment ! and meanwhile its a fucking fulltime job !
outside the EU finnland and sweden FE first! i do my best but u have no warranty/ NOT ALL INTERNATIONAL ORDERS !
which is only because I refuse to sour the speed to stretch with milk powder
He has not bought from me
I consistently positive reviews
I've been 10 years in the business speed i know what I'm doing!
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I just wrote down what you told me a few hours ago. It's allowed to write something about every vendor's gear. Don't rage..
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I was going to try out Jalapeno, but he will only do FE for international orders, no guarantee delivery. And will no do samples/orders under 25 grams. I'm not risking $160+ for what's likely wet dutch speed. He was quick at answering messages though.
Amph is cutted with caffeine (the best way) and it is a rock (not wet), he told me.
no samples because the charge is changed all 10 day ... the sample arrieves i have a new batch here also pointless
no orders under 25 grams at MOMENT because i have to many orders at moment ! and meanwhile its a fucking fulltime job !
outside the EU finnland and sweden FE first! i do my best but u have no warranty/ NOT ALL INTERNATIONAL ORDERS !
which is only because I refuse to sour the speed to stretch with milk powder
He has not bought from me
I consistently positive reviews
I've been 10 years in the business speed i know what I'm doing!
Sorry about my wet dutch speed comment. I believe I was referring to reviews from another vendor. For me, 25 grams is beyond my comfort level to import, 5-10 at a time would be ideal. I look forward to trying out your product.
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I just wrote down what you told me a few hours ago. It's allowed to write something about every vendor's gear. Don't rage..
no problem ... but I also have the right to ask the right
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I just wrote down what you told me a few hours ago. It's allowed to write something about every vendor's gear. Don't rage..
no problem ... but I also have the right to ask the right
Of course you have ;)
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Interesting..I was taking 5-htp as well after too many days of use of mdma/speed. It helps cleaning out the mind. Also noticed 5-htp AT THE SAME time with amphetamines use is reducing as explained the effect.
I'm also taking, during my days/weeks of break, Vitamin B Complex and L-Tyrosine.Nice supplements working together with 5-htp.
What can be used to reintegrate Dopamine?
Everyone who's into amphetamines should check out this thread on BL:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/609051-Amphetamine-Neurotoxicity-and-Tolerance-Reduction-Prevention-II
The Basic Stack.
- ~250mg elemental magnesium at bed. Why: magnesium deficiency is extremely common and known to worsen neurotoxic measures in mouse models. May also help with bruxism (jaw clenching)
- ~1-5mg sublingual melatonin 3 hours before bed. Why: helps regulate sleep cycle, potent antioxidant, several neuroprotective mechanisms.
- Stay hydrated, preferably with high quality fruit juices (such as 100% blueberry) Why: do I really need to explain this?
- Eat a balanced diet rich in dark fruits and vegetables. Why: Why: do I really need to explain this? Make sure you eat period.
- Avoid overheating. Why: Elevated body temperature has been linked to increased neurotoxicity in mouse models
- Coenzyme Q10 at 100mg/day in a softgel or oil based formulation (preferably taken with food). Why: extremely long half life antioxidant, various beneficial effects on mitochondrial function.
- Avoid sleep deprivation. Why: your body needs sleep whether you want to or not.
- A good multivitamin, or at the very least vitamins A,C,E, and D as well as selenium at a significant portion of the RDA value. Malnutrition is a very real concern with amphetamine use,
-Low dose ASA ~81mg/day, anti-inflammatory drugs have shown to reduce neurotoxic measures in several models, also might give your cardiovascular system a break.
- Keep your dose as low as possible.
I'm already following this regiment for almost two weeks. Can't say if these supplements help much, but I'm still alive and well:)
melatonin.... 3 HOURS BEFORE BED? wut. Makes no sense.
as for the rest of it I take that already. I don't know why he doesn't mention Omega 3 fish oil. That should be a granted in any stack for brain and cardio health!
heck most people don't eat fish at all as it is.
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which is only because I refuse to sour the speed to stretch with milk powder
He has not bought from me
I consistently positive reviews
I've been 10 years in the business speed i know what I'm doing!
then please stop cutting with caffeine. it is awful. If I want caffeine I go buy caffeine not amphetamine. caffeine gives bad bodyload in combo with amphetamine unless you got a caffeine tolerance. if you don't then it's not nice to add a caffeine addiction on top of amph addiction.
so yea, stop cutting with caffeine for fucks sake. it's so god damn idiotic, no offense.. but yes, it's stupid and just makes people crash harder.
I will never touch your speed until you stupid cutting with caffeine and I advise anyone who does not have caffeine tolerance to avoid.
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Who wants to see a review in the review thread?
Received a 1g order from Evilution today. $15/g plus pp(.0.44bitcoins-EU).
Due to price and lack of reviews here, I had relatively low expectations. I ordered on the weekend as I grew impatient when BoyMaster took a few days to process my order (but thank goodness I got in there in time, expect arrival in next couple of days).
Seller: Was friendly and sent me a courtesy message. Delivery was very fast - sent out Monday and arrived on Wednesday (EU). Packaging was clever. Not sure if it is 100% smell proof but definitely good decoy - think reputable sellers of legal highs.
weighed product: 990mg
put 85mg on scale and left out in open. after half hour she weighed in at 76mg.
looks: four clumps of speed paste. lumps are quite wet and I assume that's how I lost 10mg. There isn't any liquid floating round the baggy but the paste is pretty moist.
smell: smells of speed. not the most pungent of smells, but it does waft of that speedy weirdness that sort of turns you on despite vaguely reminding you of cat-piss (it's OK, I checked the baggy and there were no lies inside).
texture: spreads out nicely on my book of 'self-realisation' making for quick drying. cuts up quite nicely once left for a few minutes (No I haven't read the book, I just use it for drugs. So don't bother asking for a review)
taste: hints of chemical. the chemically disgustingness does come through but it is a fairly mild taste overall.
the nose: slight burn in the nostril. fades very quickly.
40mg line followed by 30mg line
Effect: its early days yet, I only took that shit a couple of hours ago! Nevertheless, I'd say it's in line with the smell and taste - there's definitely some speed in there but it certainly isn't the strongest. I sort of get the impression that the cutting agent could be something relatively inert (probs a good thing!). I will try to update after some more time has passed and some more product has been sampled. Overall, don't expect this to be anywhere close to BM or MFUK's good shit, but then at this price point Evilution isn't competing with them. considering the price I have to be satisfied with my purchase. it's a street level price but its above street-level quality (afterall, I believe that there is actual speed in this thing!). As the effects trickle through, there is an urge to re-dose in order to get closer to that premium quality feeling. A little bump won't hurt. fuck the scales, we'll eyeball from now on.
Update (morning after): So the way things turned out, I probably took a total of around 130mg (give or take). and I reached a very pleasant plateau speedy horniness and mild yet euphoric waves of pleasure. got some sleep at 5am and got up at 9am for work. no problem. very pleasurable.
Conclusion: I think this product is honest. The price seems to be a just indicator of the quality. Thanks to Evilution for providing me some speed at such great speed. I think I will enjoy it, even though I will likely get through it a fair bit quicker than with the premium quality stuff which is (sometimes) available here.
On a side note: last week I lost my last g of MFUK's good quality speed. Now as someone who likes to get high I expect to lose some drugs every now and then...but I expect to lose them whilst I'm high. Not whilst sober!! Can I please get some sympathy?
Speed review history:
Blaatz0r (February?) - cheap so no complaints - well ahead of UK street speed I have sampled.
Good for: Cheapskates!
AfghanApothecary (April)- even cheaper! seemed to be on a par with what you might get on street -slightly irritating to snort, felt some effect but not prominent enough. Again, no complaints -even if this was nothing but caffeine it was still cheaper than star-bucks!
Good for: proper fucking cheapskates!
Der Speed Doktor (Jan-March: Right, so this is why people do speed!?! stimulating, euphoric - feeling horny as hell (anyone got a cure for stim-dick?).
Good for: anyone who doesn't mind the wetness.
Joopium (May?): I don't remember the details but I'm pretty sure I was satisfied - close to the premium speed vendors.
Good for: Anyone?
BoyMaster (June-July)- well don't really have to say much. took that shit on holiday and had a blast! excellent for fucking.
Good for: Cock-hungry ladies, and nearby cocks!
MrFireUK (August): Got the goodness back in August I think. Very Nice. Unfortunately lost my last bit. but the other day I dipped my finger into an old empty stash bag and this tiny bit on my tongue picked me right up!
Good for: working or fucking. or both!
Evilution (October): decent quality for price. Doesn't seem to be too many nasties in there. would recommend to people with average expectations on a budget.
Good for: casual addicts waiting for arrival of BM's shit. or anyone else looking to spend $15...
Now I realise, that half or more of these vendors aren't around now, but I thought including this would give some of you a point of reference for my opinions. I also, may have missed out a vendor or two - so clearly your shit wasn't memorable enough! damn you...whoever, you may be!!
Evilution: Thanks for your service. As soon a I can log back into my SR account I will finalise and give you 5/5. I hope you find my review honest and fair.
On a side note (2): Am I the only one who doesn't have too much trouble sleeping on speed? Don't get me wrong, I can easily do a two day bender on it, but if I want I can also get a bit of kip when needed (as long as I don't let myself get distracted by my dick!).
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Elevated body temperature has been linked to increased neurotoxicity in mouse models
Sheesh. Now I"ve heard everything! They have mouse models now!?!? :o How do they make them stay still for photos?? ;D Are they more shapely than regular mice?? Ok, I couldn't help myself.
For the guy asking about "reintegrating dopamine" Tyrosine is a dopamine precursor. The body and brain turns it into dopamine in a few steps. If you guys want something that the body turns to DA in one step there's a supplement made from "velvet bean" Velvet bean actually contains about 15% L-Dopa They use L-Dopa in parksinsons patients to increase DA levels. That's chemical though, in velvet bean it occurs naturally. I bought some stuff called "Mucana"
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because of the lousy ripp's MRfireUK I renounce to the customer to take the fear on FE
now new rules
no FE! at me for orders
outside the EU finland and sweden! i do my best but u have no warrenty
u can stay in escrow!
No refunds or re-sends
my condolences to all who have been ripped!
SR 4 ever!
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Elevated body temperature has been linked to increased neurotoxicity in mouse models
Sheesh. Now I"ve heard everything! They have mouse models now!?!? :o How do they make them stay still for photos?? ;D Are they more shapely than regular mice?? Ok, I couldn't help myself.
I'll second the hyperthermia thing (not hypo-, hyper-). Elevated body temperature does appear to be a substantial factor in amphetamine neurotoxicity. I read a research journal article that stated lowering the ambient temperature reduced neurotoxicity when compared to the control group. This was years ago, and I have no idea if they lowered it to 0 celsius or just down by 2-5 degrees, but if you're on amphetamines, consider it a high priority to avoid heat (or at least get a fan). Especially if you do 2+ day runs, as I've read articles that say the largest factor in neurotoxicity is the length of time amphetamines are abused for (as in the duration it's in your blood is actually a bigger factor -- not by a ton, but a bit -- than how much is in your blood).
Keeping cool certainly won't hurt, and it may mitigate a sizable amount of damage.
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Who wants to see a review in the review thread?
Received a 1g order from Evilution today. $15/g plus pp(.0.44bitcoins-EU).
Due to price and lack of reviews here, I had relatively low expectations. I ordered on the weekend as I grew impatient when BoyMaster took a few days to process my order (but thank goodness I got in there in time, expect arrival in next couple of days).
Seller: Was friendly and sent me a courtesy message. Delivery was very fast - sent out Monday and arrived on Wednesday (EU). Packaging was clever. Not sure if it is 100% smell proof but definitely good decoy - think reputable sellers of legal highs.
weighed product: 990mg
put 85mg on scale and left out in open. after half hour she weighed in at 76mg.
looks: four clumps of speed paste. lumps are quite wet and I assume that's how I lost 10mg. There isn't any liquid floating round the baggy but the paste is pretty moist.
smell: smells of speed. not the most pungent of smells, but it does waft of that speedy weirdness that sort of turns you on despite vaguely reminding you of cat-piss (it's OK, I checked the baggy and there were no lies inside).
texture: spreads out nicely on my book of 'self-realisation' making for quick drying. cuts up quite nicely once left for a few minutes (No I haven't read the book, I just use it for drugs. So don't bother asking for a review)
taste: hints of chemical. the chemically disgustingness does come through but it is a fairly mild taste overall.
the nose: slight burn in the nostril. fades very quickly.
40mg line followed by 30mg line
Effect: its early days yet, I only took that shit a couple of hours ago! Nevertheless, I'd say it's in line with the smell and taste - there's definitely some speed in there but it certainly isn't the strongest. I sort of get the impression that the cutting agent could be something relatively inert (probs a good thing!). I will try to update after some more time has passed and some more product has been sampled. Overall, don't expect this to be anywhere close to BM or MFUK's good shit, but then at this price point Evilution isn't competing with them. considering the price I have to be satisfied with my purchase. it's a street level price but its above street-level quality (afterall, I believe that there is actual speed in this thing!). As the effects trickle through, there is an urge to re-dose in order to get closer to that premium quality feeling. A little bump won't hurt. fuck the scales, we'll eyeball from now on.
Conclusion: I think this product is honest. The price seems to be a just indicator of the quality. Thanks to Evilution for providing me some speed at such great speed. I think I will enjoy it, even though I will likely get through it a fair bit quicker than with the premium quality stuff which is (sometimes) available here.
On a side note: last week I lost my last g of MFUK's good quality speed. Now as someone who likes to get high I expect to lose some drugs every now and then...but I expect to lose them whilst I'm high. Not whilst sober!! Can I please get some sympathy?
A++ review, would peruse again.
Goddammit. Was hoping to pop my SR cherry with BoyMaster's produce.
Any other recommendations from the Aussies up in this bitch?
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Just wanted to mention in this thread how much I enjoyed ComeOnEileen's dexedrine. The dex just felt to me like a very clean, clear, energetic high. I'm just a amphetamine novice trying out a few different types of speed for recreational purposes and I haven't compared prices but I thought I would mention this vendor here. The communication was a pleasure, the shipping was fast (a week to the US) although vendor page doesn't say ships to the US, when I pm'd the vendor did not have a problem with it. Anyway just thought I'd throw my $0.01 worth out there and mention a good vendor with good dexedrine.
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Just received my package from Kush411:
Shipping Speed: Amazing! Got to me in two days.
Stealth: I would literally feel comfortable opening in front of a DEA agent. Amazing stealth!
Product Purity/Potency: Seemed very strong, but my scale needs new batteries (I suck at eyeballing) so I'll update purity later, but it was very strong indeed.
Communication: Answered my messages within a few hours, very professional.
Overall, its been my best SR experience yet.
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Bulk BM came through.
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Ok thanks for the response.. I went against my instincts and disdain for Dutch Speed in general and ordered from both dutch vendors. I expect wet stuff that'll be half weight or something but as long as I can get some motivation going and whatever the fk it is, to keep my sanity until CC gear arrives :) Hopefully, if it is cut with caffeine there'll be LITTLE of it and not amounts that have you shaking and puking... and hopefully it's better than OldAmsterdam which was so bad (50% less weight dried) I barely remember if it did anything but make my heart race (the way a big dose of caffeine would).
Mhh.. my latest order from OldAmsterdam was like 5-6 weeks ago and together with the first couple of it was pretty good though the latest batch already was somewhat less quality than the first. One 5g order was very wet but after I've contacted him about that he resolved it nicely by sending a couple of g for free. If the recent quality is as bad as you say than Oldie is out the picture now I guess, dammit I really liked the one day domestic shipping. Maybe I will place a small order with BrPower and cross my fingers but I have to get/read some more info first.
So I placed a 2g order with BrPower on Tuesday, status still on processing and no communication so far,
Because of my own good experience with OldAmsterdam I also placed a 2g order on Wednesday, status still on processing, also not responding the last couple of days,
Seems like they're both into hibernation mode or whatever, for domestic shipping this is far too long imo will probably cancel both orders today and tomorrow.
EDIT: canceled both orders, don't know what's going on but kind of disappointing. Anyhow shit happens and just saving my btc's for BM's next batch seems a nice idea at this moment.
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Well, the thread seems to have grinded to a halt,.....
With regards to my previous post and the current state of the supply lines within the UK, I'm looking into doing some trading in this market.
I have 2 suppliers that I've bought samples from and they arent bashed and decent quality.
However both samples are amphetamine freebase paste. Very oily and quite potent in its current form. I was advised by a knowledgable guy you dont dry this stuff out before consumption as the majority of the amphetamine is in the oil itself. Drying it out effectively obliterates the power and makes it little more than inert powder when dry. (ive had dried up paste in the past and it had little effect on me, if at all)
I would therefore strongly recommend, if I go through with becoming a vondor, that you store freebase in the freezer to retain the potency (I confirm it is more potent than the usual, stepped on mixtures people sell, it's uncut and free from adulterants.... I wouldn't sell what I refuse to take myself, and I have very high standards when it comes to speed) SR deserves an honourable reliable vendor and I've personally been disapointed, like many, by the prices and most notably the quality of what i've been sent from various ssubstandard vendors. Amateurs, dishonest cash cropping bastards should fuck off back to whatever hole they crawled from. (sorry to be so blunt)
Before i go deep into details, I'll continue to thrash out it's feasabilty and relative support. Confirm the quality of my sources and whether I have enough capital to successfully become a respectable vendor without any notable hiccups.
Any support, questions, comments is very welcome.
Sorry if this post seems scatty my head is buzzing, i'll eek it out on paper to add clarification to the planning process
One love
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Well, the thread seems to have grinded to a halt,.....
With regards to my previous post and the current state of the supply lines within the UK, I'm looking into doing some trading in this market.
I have 2 suppliers that I've bought samples from and they arent bashed and decent quality.
However both samples are amphetamine freebase paste. Very oily and quite potent in its current form. I was advised by a knowledgable guy you dont dry this stuff out before consumption as the majority of the amphetamine is in the oil itself. Drying it out effectively obliterates the power and makes it little more than inert powder when dry. (ive had dried up paste in the past and it had little effect on me, if at all)
I would therefore strongly recommend, if I go through with becoming a vondor, that you store freebase in the freezer to retain the potency (I confirm it is more potent than the usual, stepped on mixtures people sell, it's uncut and free from adulterants.... I wouldn't sell what I refuse to take myself, and I have very high standards when it comes to speed) SR deserves an honourable reliable vendor and I've personally been disapointed, like many, by the prices and most notably the quality of what i've been sent from various ssubstandard vendors. Amateurs, dishonest cash cropping bastards should fuck off back to whatever hole they crawled from. (sorry to be so blunt)
Before i go deep into details, I'll continue to thrash out it's feasabilty and relative support. Confirm the quality of my sources and whether I have enough capital to successfully become a respectable vendor without any notable hiccups.
Any support, questions, comments is very welcome.
Sorry if this post seems scatty my head is buzzing, i'll eek it out on paper to add clarification to the planning process
One love
Disclaimer: not a chemist, don't produce amphetamines in my kitchen, don't work for Pfizer or anything like that, you get the point... but amphetamine paste is not pure or unadulterated. Amphetamine paste is amphetamine with some unnecessary pastey junk that's adding weight to the product and little else. If amp freebase is soluble in said liquid, as the liquid evaporates, amp freebase should be left behind. Freebase amp isn't all that spectacular. Your body's pretty good at filtering it out before it gets into you.
If the amphetamine *is* the oil, then what's the other stuff and why pay for it? If it's *in* the oil, then why are people paying for the weight of the oil and the other stuff? Not to attack your business before you're even started or anything, but pure amphetamine sulfate (and HCl) is -- as far as I know -- a generally white or off-white, odorless powder. Anything else is filler or just wasn't removed post-reaction.
Somehow paste got a reputation for being highly pure. Hell if I know how or why. I'm always happy to be corrected when wrong, though.
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OK. Just going off what I believe are facts, and thats been backed up by personal experience too.
I'm confident in saying what I did, although I cannot account for the overall accuracy of the statement, I may well have it wrong.
Amphetamine sulphate is a very hard substance to aquire around my parts, but I have seen some and its solid, unlike high standard (i used the phrase loosely, as it often varies in quality) amphet freebase which is more like liquid goo, ranging to a pastey white clump. Its appearance and texture varies depending on source, this I have here is gooey white sticky almost, and wet and oily, theres not much in the way of solids in this, and I have to say its the best speed ive had my hands on for quite some time.
I thought at first, judging by the look of it that it would indeed, be pants. But it's impressed me and that rarely happens. It easily Beats the sulphate supposedly 91% pure i got from SR recently, that didnt impress me at all and caused some mild unpleasant effects.
Speaking candidly, Its notable I've not experienced any negative effects aside from very mild amplification of anxiety I already had, but its more than countered by the solid robust high its given me. I've been up all night and this is why i'd be willing to take a chance with it, buy a little more and distribute what I have to a lucky few ppl out there. :)
I would virtually guarantee anybody wont be disappointed, but I've said what I've said because everybody I know stores it in the freezer prior to consumption, and thats a fair few people. It's just common practice among the locals here who use it. I'll guess its cos youre eating what you would have let evaporate. That makes perfect sense to me, but I guess the divide may well remain on the dry/freeze topic.
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Well, it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong. My chemistry knowledge is really best described as amateur hobbyist than anything else. You're welcome to your opinion of it, and you don't sound very insincere, so I'll take your word for it. Here in the states, there's no speed. I mean essentially literally none, only pharmies (adderall. dexedrine, vyvanse, sometimes desoxyn, that sort). I can only speak based on my limited understanding of how the amphetamine molecule ends up as part of a given solution, and one or two "European speed paste is mistakenly thought to be pure, but really is this-and-that-and..." (which I read God knows when and only half remember).
Regardless, as long as it's amphetamine and the rest of it is inert, the worst that could happen is somebody pays for more than they end up with. Better than a bunch of caffeine or ephedrine or whatever else being in there too :) Apologies if I jumped on you there. Been awake and restless for awhile myself.
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all this has been discussed multiple times in this thread.
you can be 99,99% certain, that you didn't got amphetamine-freebase, but amphetamine mixed with solvents and whatever. :o
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Guize! Guize! Look a new DE -> DE vendor! here: dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=53301.0
Is it a bird? A plane? No! It's MrRocketGER ;D haha ;D
To summarize the german feedback: it's good speed but dripping wet, looses up to 50%. One guy ordered 250mg sample (this sounds slightly familiar, just can't point to it) and had 90mg left after drying. lol :P
But good news for the guys who liked FUK's particular type of speed! I believe they could have a similar source. You should look for friends in DE to reship and stay away from the larger amounts.
Anyone recognizes this Aussie speed ? ;D
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/a04e40d30b
While I have no problem with that in genreal, I have to say ... the reduced price ... DUDE! wtf? 155 per g? srsly? I can eyeball the amount shown and can guess what was paid. Imho that's begging for bad karma. At least it's pretty obvious where it's from, gonna give you that.
But what I wanted to say:
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To the guy who said the max purity of amphetamine sulphate is 74 percent... I don't know where you are pulling this number. If you are counting the sulphate ion as an impurity, which you shouldnt, then the max purity would be roughly 58 percent. When I say 96 percent pure, I mean that 96 percent of the molecules by weight are amphetamine sulphate molecules.. Send me a message if you can explain to me how you arrived at this max74percent conclusion.
Actually you are wrong and the guy pretty much nailed it with "sulphates maximum purity is 74%". He didn't count it as impurity, he counted it as Not-Amphetamine. This is a very (or even most) common convention from dutch test-centers, used to make different salts comparable. I actually agree on the mg/g convention, but I wouldn't tell anyone what he should use. All of the 3 common convey the same information. And he pulled the number from doing the calculation correctly ;D haha :P Syntax matters. Can't be said often enough.
@SelfSovereignty
If it's wet it's cut. period. By at least the weight of the solvent and that of whatever adulterants was used.
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Does anyone have some recent intel on BM/CC? Without them it looks pretty empty in the speed section ;D
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Guize! Guize! Look a new DE -> DE vendor! here: dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=53301.0
Is it a bird? A plane? No! It's MrRocketGER ;D haha ;D
To summarize the german feedback: it's good speed but dripping wet, looses up to 50%. One guy ordered 250mg sample (this sounds slightly familiar, just can't point to it) and had 90mg left after drying. lol :P
But good news for the guys who liked FUK's particular type of speed! I believe they could have a similar source. You should look for friends in DE to reship and stay away from the larger amounts.
Anyone recognizes this Aussie speed ? ;D
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/a04e40d30b
While I have no problem with that in genreal, I have to say ... the reduced price ... DUDE! wtf? 155 per g? srsly? I can eyeball the amount shown and can guess what was paid. Imho that's begging for bad karma. At least it's pretty obvious where it's from, gonna give you that.
But what I wanted to say:
*edit*
To the guy who said the max purity of amphetamine sulphate is 74 percent... I don't know where you are pulling this number. If you are counting the sulphate ion as an impurity, which you shouldnt, then the max purity would be roughly 58 percent. When I say 96 percent pure, I mean that 96 percent of the molecules by weight are amphetamine sulphate molecules.. Send me a message if you can explain to me how you arrived at this max74percent conclusion.
Actually you are wrong and the guy pretty much nailed it with "sulphates maximum purity is 74%". He didn't count it as impurity, he counted it as Not-Amphetamine. This is a very (or even most) common convention from dutch test-centers, used to make different salts comparable. I actually agree on the mg/g convention, but I wouldn't tell anyone what he should use. All of the 3 common convey the same information. And he pulled the number from doing the calculation correctly ;D haha :P Syntax matters. Can't be said often enough.
@SelfSovereignty
If it's wet it's cut. period. By at least the weight of the solvent and that of whatever adulterants was used.
Hmmmm i have a very similar looking package in my possession . Wonder who it could be from???
But muslix 150 a gram is cheap here...
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Does anyone have some recent intel on BM/CC? Without them it looks pretty empty in the speed section ;D
I haven't heard a peep, I sent a PM to CC to see how things were coming along two weeks ago and nada!!! :( WWaaaaahhhhhh
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praying to the speed gods that
CC/BM will appear
%*@#*%&#&%#)@ Sorry guys, just going nuts cause I finished my last order of BM (and by finished I mean I licked the fucking bag for crumbs too... jesus
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agreed BM should be there for sure! Hope BM back soon also try dagobert(96) use the international postage well worth it
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+1
Waiting patiently for the goodies to come back. BM stuff was just excellent, i can't go back no more!!
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bit of a star is the master. he knows how it's done ;)
Anytime x
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Another new guy from Germany (GE is that you?! :) ), looks kinda decent actually:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/6945ec8cd5
Percentages probably way too high, but good price. Someone please buy the 95% 5g stuff and test. :)
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Another new guy from Germany (GE is that you?! :) ), looks kinda decent actually:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/6945ec8cd5
Percentages probably way too high, but good price. Someone please buy the 95% 5g stuff and test. :)
I wrote the guy some days ago asking what his 'speed paste' contains, the answer was:
Hi
it was 95% BMK "oel! the rest coffein!
it is very wett but dont panic u loose 50 gramms from wett to dry by 1kg. ! really !
I'm not sure if I want to test this personally, but if someone feels like it I'm also interested in review.. ::)
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I'd just like to gloat mildly that my BM order just arrived! ;)
I'll make it last.. probably
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Another new guy from Germany (GE is that you?! :) ), looks kinda decent actually:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/6945ec8cd5
Percentages probably way too high, but good price. Someone please buy the 95% 5g stuff and test. :)
I wrote the guy some days ago asking what his 'speed paste' contains, the answer was:
Hi
it was 95% BMK "oel! the rest coffein!
it is very wett but dont panic u loose 50 gramms from wett to dry by 1kg. ! really !
I'm not sure if I want to test this personally, but if someone feels like it I'm also interested in review.. ::)
I think BMK oil is used to manufacture some MDMA. Fail x)
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Does anyone have some recent intel on BM/CC? Without them it looks pretty empty in the speed section ;D
I haven't heard a peep, I sent a PM to CC to see how things were coming along two weeks ago and nada!!! :( WWaaaaahhhhhh
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I spoke to CC very recently (like within the last 3-4 days), and he said his plans are still the same and that he should have his listings up in 3 weeks. I don't know about BM; I haven't spoken to him for like a month. (not like I'm all buddy-buddy with the guys, lol... just happened to have a conversation or two with them both)
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Another new guy from Germany (GE is that you?! :) ), looks kinda decent actually:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/6945ec8cd5
Percentages probably way too high, but good price. Someone please buy the 95% 5g stuff and test. :)
I wrote the guy some days ago asking what his 'speed paste' contains, the answer was:
Hi
it was 95% BMK "oel! the rest coffein!
it is very wett but dont panic u loose 50 gramms from wett to dry by 1kg. ! really !
I'm not sure if I want to test this personally, but if someone feels like it I'm also interested in review.. ::)
I think BMK oil is used to manufacture some MDMA. Fail x)
BMK is another name for phenylacetone (another is "P2P") which is the main precursor used to make amphetamine. So he's saying his product is 95% precursor and 5% caffeine; I'm guessing he thinks he said something else.
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Another new guy from Germany (GE is that you?! :) ), looks kinda decent actually:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/6945ec8cd5
Percentages probably way too high, but good price. Someone please buy the 95% 5g stuff and test. :)
I wrote the guy some days ago asking what his 'speed paste' contains, the answer was:
Hi
it was 95% BMK "oel! the rest coffein!
it is very wett but dont panic u loose 50 gramms from wett to dry by 1kg. ! really !
I'm not sure if I want to test this personally, but if someone feels like it I'm also interested in review.. ::)
I think BMK oil is used to manufacture some MDMA. Fail x)
BMK is another name for phenylacetone (another is "P2P") which is the main precursor used to make amphetamine. So he's saying his product is 95% precursor and 5% caffeine; I'm guessing he thinks he said something else.
Oh, benzyl methyl ketone? Wow... that's hilarious :)
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BMK is another name for phenylacetone (another is "P2P") which is the main precursor used to make amphetamine. So he's saying his product is 95% precursor and 5% caffeine; I'm guessing he thinks he said something else.
damn you beat me to it :P (used to be?) one of the most common precursors according to Rhodium.
So he meant 95% amph from p2p, but what's up with the caffeine?! I'd say the 25g stuff is avg street speed the 5g is one of those, but less cut. ;D Worth testing imho (not by me tho :P someone with the tolerance of a mortal).
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/22fc76f852
25g for 95$? lol..
And he has a 5g sample for sale at 60$ ::)
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damn you beat me to it :P (used to be?) one of the most common precursors according to Rhodium.
So he meant 95% amph from p2p, but what's up with the caffeine?! I'd say the 25g stuff is avg street speed the 5g is one of those, but less cut. ;D Worth testing imho (not by me tho :P someone with the tolerance of a mortal).
Meth made from P2P produces 50/50 d,l if memory serves (yes? No? Anybody?), so assuming it's the same for amphetamine... 95% amp, 5% caffeine = 5mg caffeine for every 95mg amp. Adjusting for the enantiomer I'm interested in, that's 47.5mg d-amp per 5mg caffeine. Cut that by 2/3 because BM and CC are the only trustworthy speed dealers I've ever seen, and you get about 15mg d-amp for every 5mg caffeine. Yeah, that's not bad. Don't think I'll be testing it out, but if that's really what it is, I don't think I'd have a problem with it as long as I avoided coffee.
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/22fc76f852
25g for 95$? lol..
And he has a 5g sample for sale at 60$ ::)
I think you have to pick up a shipping option that is worth another half of the whole sum :D I've seen other vendors do that. Someone should write and ask to be sure..
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There's only free shipping option, I will order it and see what happens.. :P
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Does anyone have some recent intel on BM/CC? Without them it looks pretty empty in the speed section ;D
BM: "two weeks or so" / that was his answer two days ago ;)
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so where to buy now since the master of the speed universe is gone producing? :(
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Is someone (speedie and maybe another guy) still awaiting test results? I forgot.
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Finished my batch of MrFireUK's speed the other day and expected to be able to order another batch of his, then I saw that he'd become a scammer. Wow. Are there any vendors at the moment that I can get some decent speed from, it looks like right now there is nothing decent out there. It doesn't have to be top gear, just something half good and from a decent vendor really! I guess to keep me going until BM returns.
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Finished my batch of MrFireUK's speed the other day and expected to be able to order another batch of his, then I saw that he'd become a scammer. Wow. Are there any vendors at the moment that I can get some decent speed from, it looks like right now there is nothing decent out there. It doesn't have to be top gear, just something half good and from a decent vendor really! I guess to keep me going until BM returns.
Not that I know of, personally. Sorry bro: I know what it's like to be out. If it's worth the extra price to you to just have some get-up-and-go, could order some meth to keep you going until BM or CC come back. Doesn't feel the same... more of a high than plain amp. Less stimulating/exciting, IMHO, but it's the same powerful molecule -- just with a different twist.
Hammertime's got good stuff for the best price right now if you decide two weeks is too long to wait.
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@Branflakes92
I Suggest you to stick with Jurgen polish paste. IMHO it's very similar to the (very good) batch of FireUK I got more or less 2 months a go.
The only drawback, be ready to loose 1/3 of weight if not more. And also very unpractical to open and dry it out from the bags you will receive. But even with so much loss, you have a good quality product with a still acceptable price.
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Is someone (speedie and maybe another guy) still awaiting test results? I forgot.
I am not awaiting test results but I am awaiting for a sample from Jalapeno to test but I don't think it will come. After his first sample he offered me a second (better quality ) sample but it didn't arrived.
So I wrote him an mail and he would sent it again but that was 2 weeks ago and still nothing.
At this moment I only have some stuff from BM and that is definitely good. When I have some results I will let you know.
Speedie
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I'd like to hear a report of Jalepeno's stuff still.
Although I think I'm losing interest in speed as time without it goes by. I haven't had any in about 2-3 weeks. The first week I was going crazy watching this thread. But now, I think I'll wait for a consistent vendor. If one doesn't come, I think I'll be okay with it. Just thinking out loud here I guess.
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I'd like to hear a report of Jalepeno's stuff still.
Although I think I'm losing interest in speed as time without it goes by. I haven't had any in about 2-3 weeks. The first week I was going crazy watching this thread. But now, I think I'll wait for a consistent vendor. If one doesn't come, I think I'll be okay with it. Just thinking out loud here I guess.
Totally the opposite for me. First 2-3 days, I do almost nothing but sleep every 2-4 hours, eat a lot, and lay there like a lump. Then I'm kind of normal for a day... then I stop being able to sleep and I get restless. More and more by the day. I mean unbelievably restless; like it's painful. After a week I really start losing my mind; pacing, constant aggravation and anxiety... it actually really, really sucks. I don't like to say it, but it's very hard for me.
Never hurts to step back and ask yourself if you're really getting what you want out of things. Sounds like you may wanna take a longer break. Personally I know what my answer is -- same thing it's always been, "yes, yes, this is still worth it. No, it shouldn't be, but fuck it: it is. Now where's that fucking sack..." :)
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Guys, whats the best way to store amph long term? Water proof container in the freezer?
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@Branflakes92
I Suggest you to stick with Jurgen polish paste. IMHO it's very similar to the (very good) batch of FireUK I got more or less 2 months a go.
The only drawback, be ready to loose 1/3 of weight if not more. And also very unpractical to open and dry it out from the bags you will receive. But even with so much loss, you have a good quality product with a still acceptable price.
Would like to order it if it's good but J screwed me and many other buyers over with bogus stuff some time ago. Honesty I find it hard to believe that he has changed now, still a (selective) scammer in my book just like aakoven at least in the speed section don't know about mdma and other stuff.
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When did you bought stuff from Jurgen?
I made one of my first order from him and akoven almost 10 months a go.
And both they sent terrible stuff ;)
But I gave Jurgen more one try when he posted the medical grade amph (that was fucking too much expensive, but was really quality stuff).
In the last 3 months I ordered 3 times the polish paste and it's always the same product, and as I said a good one.
The only problem I have with Jurgen is communication. He rarely reply, but normally deliver is done fast and package always very stealth.
But if he does a mistake (and trust me, he does), then expect a long long long discussion and repeated messages to fix the issue
For example, if you order 2x 2g, PUT a big warning line for him on the address box that you bought 2 TIMES this item, or you will most likely receive only one ;)
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When did you bought stuff from Jurgen?
I made one of my first order from him and akoven almost 10 months a go.
And both they sent terrible stuff ;)
Since the feedback cleanup we can't look that much back anymore sadly so I have to dig in my memory but I think it was roughly about 7 months ago.
But I gave Jurgen more one try when he posted the medical grade amph (that was fucking too much expensive, but was really quality stuff).
Yeah the price always flabbergasted me, paying $120 for a gram speed/amphetamine phosphate is ridiculous no matter how good it is. In fact nobody knows if it even was phosphate, could just as well have been high purity amph. sulphate. I think he probably made huge profits with selling that stuff.
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I suggest you to have a try with the polish speed paste. You can order 2g, no big loss. The problem is he was offering 15g package (that was perfect, more or less 10g dried)..now I don't see this on the articles anymore, only the 25g..this is way too much, because he's sending in 5 times..even if on different days, it looks suspicious 5 letters looking like exactly the same. Asked to re-list 15g but of course no reply ;)
It's really sad that is so hard to find a trusted source on SR for amphetamines. Other drugs are so easy to find out good sources =>
I see AfterHour is back as well with his speed paste..never ordered from him, feedback anyone?
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BrPower speed review:
This is amphetamine sulfate at a dutch level. i would say it's above average compared to street speed. It gives decent effects at an unacceptable cost.
The first issue is:
You order 2g, and it's so damn wet even after days of drying it is still moist. Dried you lose 50% of the weight and you're left with 1g dried.
Second issue:
It is cut with all kinds of shit. One snort of 35mg yielded half decent effects until THE CAFFEINE WORE OFF.. because this is definitely cut with caffeine.
Third issue:
Due to the caffeine cut this has super heavy bodyload. Heart beating like mad. In fact the day after my chest inside rib muscles were sore.
This also causes a premature crash.. because caffeine as a drug does not last as long as amphetamine at all. So the negative caffeine crash sttarts after 2 hours... at which point you start feeling shitty. Personally I did not redose because I did not want to subject my cardio to any more strain (110-120bpm tachycardia WHILE SITTING is not ok.
If you have caffeine tolerance and you're used to this kind of dutch speed cut with caffeine then go ahead, it works ok but makes you crash harder than other clean stuff. Cost wise it is too expensive. People took issue to BM raising his prices to 38 a gram.. Well this is 30 for 2 grams which is actually 1 gram dried and still not as potent as BM.
I have no idea truly to know what cut this was but it was nasty smelling. Stinks. I know the purest amphetamines don't smell at all barely smell at all.
I can say that it's not "bunk". it is simply a higher purity dutch street speed (cut to fuck with solvents/caffeine .. lactose? makes it unsnortable because your nose gets clogged).. if you snort this you HAVE to snort water to clear your sinuses but even so it kinda fucks your nose up... it burns like hell too. Gave me teardrop and watery eye, which I don't mind but I don't think pure TOP quality speed does that at all.
If you drink coffee every day and have tolerance and you're not caffeine sensitive then it could be a solution until CC & BM put their listings up. With CC creating a new batch of higher purity stuff and being known for causing less bodyload i suggest waiting for his listings and just... take some time off using amphetamine.
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Why do I KEEP forgetting how strong BM is =D !? Just the smallest pinch in coffee is still too powerful for me even with a tolerance. I guess it's time to start weighing doses out again...
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For the time being I have ordered 4g of jurgen2001's 'Polish speed'. It's fairly cheap and from the reviews it seems pretty okay.. guess this is stuff to feed my friends :P
Cancelled the 25g for 95$ because I needed the money for something better ;D
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I've come into possession of some very nice amphetamine freebase. But only half an oz while my finances improve.
I want to test the feasability of selling this pastey, oily and wet compound over the road, and if its worth everyones while. Or will it turn out to be a load of hassle and not worth the bother.
For anybody looking to buy some stuff in the UK this could be your chance. I'm going to do 2-3 samples for some experienced users preferably, you know , somebody who knows their speed, and get some feedback on it.
I find this speed very strong, it lasts all day and its nice and clean. There have been very little side effects and no dreaded hangover type comedown. I'm impressed with it and there could be a supply line appearing to me. The only thing is this is freebase, my worry is it evaporates and leaves buyers disappointed
Let me know, feedback please :)
NumNuts
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I've come into possession of some very nice amphetamine freebase. But only half an oz while my finances improve.
I want to test the feasability of selling this pastey, oily and wet compound over the road, and if its worth everyones while. Or will it turn out to be a load of hassle and not worth the bother.
For anybody looking to buy some stuff in the UK this could be your chance. I'm going to do 2-3 samples for some experienced users preferably, you know , somebody who knows their speed, and get some feedback on it.
I find this speed very strong, it lasts all day and its nice and clean. There have been very little side effects and no dreaded hangover type comedown. I'm impressed with it and there could be a supply line appearing to me.
The only thing is this is freebase, my worry is it during postage it evaporates/dries out and leaves buyers disappointed
Let me know, feedback please :)
NumNuts
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I would like to point out that freebase amphetamine is fairly irritating in your mouth/throat. once it gets to your stomach the hydrochloric acid converts it to its salt form and it's fine so I recommend capping it.
Numnuts would you ever consider converting the freebase to the salt form? It's easier to ship and a fairly simple process
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I've come into possession of some very nice amphetamine freebase.
No, you haven't. I believe there's actually an explanation why from something like chemists in here. If common sense doesn't suffice.
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I've come into possession of some very nice amphetamine freebase.
No, you haven't. I believe there's actually an explanation why from something like chemists in here. If common sense doesn't suffice.
I agree. Your "pastey, oily and wet compound" does not sound enticing, especially when we have proper sulfate product being sold regularly. Why exactly do you have supposed freebase amphetamine and not an easier-to-use and manage salt form?
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I've come into possession of some very nice amphetamine freebase.
No, you haven't. I believe there's actually an explanation why from something like chemists in here. If common sense doesn't suffice.
I agree. Your "pastey, oily and wet compound" does not sound enticing, especially when we have proper sulfate product being sold regularly. Why exactly do you have supposed freebase amphetamine and not an easier-to-use and manage salt form?
He simply doesn't have freebase ;D, we had this discussion with an uk vendor already. What brits describe/sell as freebase is nothing else then amphetamines swimming in solvents with other crap ::).
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I've come into possession of some very nice amphetamine freebase.
No, you haven't. I believe there's actually an explanation why from something like chemists in here. If common sense doesn't suffice.
I was kinda bored :P
If one sells amphetamine sulfate, one must inform about the concentration of that salt, not the freebase. The higher purity of amphetamine sulfate you can obtain is 99%, there can't exist 100% pure nothing on earth, SO 99% OF AMPHETAMINE SULFATE. Obviously that amphetamine sulfate contains the sulfate salt witch weights 98g/mole and is absolutely necessary for the use of the drug + 2 mole of amphetamine freebase. So in fact that 99% amphetamine sulfate would contain 73% of amphetamine freebase.
Nobody would buy that "pure amphetamine" if it's an amber oil with a horrible smell, a boiling point of around 230ºC and a density of 0.919g/cm^3 witch can't be used by humans in any way. So people should measure the purity of the sulfate/phosphate form and not the freebase...The pharm industry measures the dosages of drugs taking in account that they're in a high bioavailability form i.e: salt form.
Greets
BM
-It's more complex than that but that's the essence, the amphetamine freebase molecules have to get in contact with the acid in an homogenous medium (solvent) to react it in the proper conditions. After that the solvent has to be removed by vacuum filtration, distillation or just evaporation and the product washed with other solvent (less polar) and vacuum filtered another time. Obviously the solvent has to be completely discarded and the amphetamine should end completely dry. There's no reason to leave any solvent in it.
It's the same process in a clandestine lab, a legal one, pharm industry, etc...
The 24h advice is bullshit, one can mix it with a diluent (water or alcohol) just before use, 24h or one month before... it's irrelevant as long as the solution doesn't get too hot.
Best regards
BM
Amphetamine freebase will not just "leave" or evaporate. It will react with carbon dioxide in the air to form the solid amphetamine carbonate. If the oil/liquid evaporated or "left" as you say then it can't be the freebase.. The paste that alot of these vendors sell is simply wet amphetamine sulphate(usually mixed with some kind of solvent and who knows what other adulterants). It can be insufflated by allowing it to dry and chopping it into a fine powder..
Thanks
CC
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Can we sticky this ^ somehow :) . Thanks stoney, that sums up so much important information.
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I got a 3 pm's asking why my listing disapeard and if i stop selling...
I did not login for three days due to some issues with one of my VPN.
It automaticly put myself on vacantion, I am so sorry for this.
Here is my 50 pills package ( the smallest package i currently offer )
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/a11636494e
Here is my 100 pills pack
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/18bb63836e
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hello i dunno what is wrong with my SR but again today I was set on vacantion while I am definetly not.
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BM order got cancelled more than a week after it was accepted :-( of course he gave me all btc's, but I need some good stuff right now... immense work load incoming
CC's still isnt up...
It is down to Dagobert, DMDdoodeeLSD and juergen... anyone has a take ??
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I was kinda bored :P
Bookmarked, well done :)
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Choke, there's not much happening right now if you're into good speed. This thread is basically just all of us going, "BM, CC, Come back!" ten times a day. However, there's plenty of good quality meth floating around. It's far more 'recreational' than good amph, but it'll get the job done as long as you take it early and keep your dose low.
Taking a tolerance break is probably the best bet. It's certainly not fun, but it's good for the body. Builds character, too.
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I'm already on the meth wagon :-) Shifting back and forth bw meth and amph for half a year. So since you brought up meth, who can you recommend within the European sphere atm? I had CW as fav vendor for some time, but I have been catching some distressed signals lately. CMC is on the radar. But it looks like the best are working from the US right now, but that wont be an option for me.
I will go for a break as soon as my dissertation is out of this world.
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Hello,
I've followed this thread for some time without actively participating, and at first wanted to thank you all for putting so much effort into this. All this product testing you do is really awesome, without that vendors like aakoven who scam the shit out of people would still be number one in this section.
Since I followed this thread for the last months, I bought 2g of BM's amphetamine because of the awesome reputation. You must know that I'm not that experienced with amphetamine, I had my first experiences with Juergen's medical grade amphetamin phosphate in march this year. I know that he is not the most trustable seller here, since many people were selectively scammed by him. So I was one of the lucky ones, who recieved the product. I didn't get anything for about 2 weeks, already thought I got scammed, but then the order finally arrived. He contacted me and offered me some free sample, since it took so long. He really hold what he promised and sent me another 0,3g for free. Seems like I had luck with him. So the experiences I had with this stuff where just overhelming. I always used it orally, instead of 2 times I IV'ed it. Nasally it didn't seem to work for me. I used it to many occations, eg for sport competitions, to boost myself after sleepless nights or just for fun. Everytime I used it, it needed about 30mg to turn my into a completely different person. I was 100% focused and awake, I could do one thing for hours. There was absolutely no anxiety anymore when it hit me, even if I had been anxious before. The ego boost I got was just overhelming, I felt like I could do anything and was a complete badass. I don't have to mention I was horny as fuck all the time and got what we call "Laberflash" in Germany (don't know to word, maybe Müslix can help). It just brought my into a really clean, focused, very euphoric state of mind for about 5 hours, with oral doses of just about 30-50mg. I really felt the dopamine releasing in my brain, I know it sounds stupid and I don't want to do any commercials, but I really had some of the most awesome days I ever had with that stuff. Overall it felt just like I had imagined D- Meth must feel like. There was nearly no stimulation of the peripheral nervous system, blood pressure remained normal in pulse rate increased to 70/min from usual 60/min. So there was absolutely no bodyload, just this awesome ZNS stimulation.
Now the problem is, that I'm not able to achieve any of these effects with BM's Amp, no matter what dose or what route of ingestion I use. I tried out every dose, from 5mg up to 80mg, orally, nasally, hell even plugging :D But the only thing I experience with this stuff is nervousness, anxiety, heavy negative associated body load caused by peripheral noradrenaline release. Psychologically, that stuff doesn't even do much for me besides making me feel very confused and distracted. All this awesome effects I thought would be caused by the dopamine release are completely missing for me. No ego boost, no ephoria, nothing except of anxiety and nervousness. I just feel like I had imagined ephedrine must feel like. Don't get me wrong guys especially Boymaster, I'm convinced that this stuff is very pure amphetamine, since here are so many much more experienced users like Müslix who can tell much better than me what good amp must feel like. I also consider BM to be one of the most honest and trustable sellers here on Sl, I'm sure this stuff is awesome speed, but it just doesn't seem to work for me.
Now what I wanted to ask is if maybe some guy here has had the medical grade phosphate of juergen as well as BM's sulfat, and has experienced similar differences. The only thing I can imagine is that it has something to do with the ratio of the two isomers, or the "medical grade" stuff simply wasn't only amp. But who knows? Anyways, I hope one of you guys can help me, because it's really bothering me for some time now that I can't achieve the same awesome effects with BM's stuff that 99% of you guys here get.
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Now what I wanted to ask is if maybe some guy here has had the medical grade phosphate of juergen as well as BM's sulfat, and has experienced similar differences. The only thing I can imagine is that it has something to do with the ratio of the two isomers, or the "medical grade" stuff simply wasn't only amp. But who knows? Anyways, I hope one of you guys can help me, because it's really bothering me for some time now that I can't achieve the same awesome effects with BM's stuff that 99% of you guys here get.
I really have no explanation for it, but I agree with you regarding BoyMaster's product. It doesn't really do it for me; I've seen a number of other people say this as well. I think it really depends on whether you want to feel amped, or want a clear and focused mind. There are times when adderall and dexedrine don't let me focus and think clearly though, so I don't really know what to say about it. Some days with amphetamines I swear my mind is crystal clear and I can focus for hours and hours on something fascinating... I just see every logical consequence of a theory and analyzing its validity is like child's play.
Then other days with amphetamines I can't think worth a damn and can't do much except play video games non-stop. I mean even with pharmaceutical amphetamines. I just don't know why. Biorhythms, I suppose.
As for int'l meth, try MarijuanaIsMyMuse. A lot of people swear by him the past month. I didn't care for his stuff, personally, but I think I'm literally the only one, so I chalk it up to a fluke.
If you're really desperate and need to self medicate, I guess you could try out 2-fluoromethamphetamine (2-fma). It's around here pretty regularly. I've seen people say they actually favor it over adderall. I don't know wtf they're talking about, personally, but hey, whatever works. It's not exactly "fun," so don't expect to have a good time abusing it. I also have serious concerns regarding damage it may do to the kidneys... almost everybody seems to say they have kidney pain the day following their use of it. That just can't be good.
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I have tried both juergen's medical grade phosphate as well as BM's gear. Juergen's functioned more like adderall and had significantly less body load than BM's gear. I only orally consume BM's gear now for it is more efficient and effects me the strongest. There is a big difference, however, between the two. I have never had such a strong body effect as BM gives me. Juergen's was nice however the price was not (this was several months ago). I am no chemist so I am not sure what causes the difference, but there is something to BM's gear that is rather heavy and extremely potent feeling, something I don't get off an adderall pill.
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Drought is over for me - d-amphetamine from CookieClub (he signs as CC, but we already have CC, so I propose we call him/her/them Cookie;D ) arrived this morning. Snorted a few small lines (no scales ATM, but should be ~50-60mg. worth) and I'm feeling real nice. Pulse is up to 90bmp, but I don't feel anything unpleasant, just really focused, fast, and in a good mood. I never had pure dextero-amph before, so I can't say it's genuine, but whatever it is - I like it. Full review coming soon!
Update: 3+ hours in. still feeling good. Still haven't eaten breakfast, so I'm getting a bit irritable because of hunger (this always happens to me), and I noticed I'm sweating a bit (I don't on my usual amph doses).
Wooooooooooooh!
Update2: 8+ hours in. I'm having a comedown I don't usually get from amphetamine without multiple redoses. I have a headache (bearable, but unpleasant, and I feel generally tired). Can't blame it on amph after one dose, though. Tomorrow I'll use scales and use this amph orally. Will update..
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Greetings. I have been a lurker here for some time.
Made my first SR order several weeks ago from BoyMaster - 1g of speed. Having never tried speed before it completely blew my socks off. I stayed awake for the whole weekend. Really really intense in a good way.
I gave the rest of it to my friend who's a long time user who after taking said it was the best stuff he'd done in years and years. Not surprising really, as the deals around here are so impure.
Eagerly awaiting BM's return like many others are I'm sure.
Peace.
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Anyone heard any news of BM or CC?
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Anyone heard any news of BM or CC?
I heard last from CC 10 days ago: "New listings are about 3 weeks away [...]"
And emilio said he heard last from BM 11 days ago: "two weeks or so".
BM: "two weeks or so" / that was his answer two days ago ;)
So I guess things should get back on track by the next week.
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Drought is over for me - d-amphetamine from CookieClub (he signs as CC, but we already have CC, so I propose we call him/her/them Cookie;D ) arrived this morning. Snorted a few small lines (no scales ATM, but should be ~50-60mg. worth) and I'm feeling real nice.
More info on that, been following cookieclub for a while, mainly because of his lsd. Never saw speed from him. How much did you buy/how much did it cost? Where's the listing gone?
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I had a fantastic experience with MrFireUK before he apparently became a scammer. Great quality. Worked out to be about $30 / gram, and was of a higher quality than the stuff off the street in Australia for $300+ / gram. But MrFire is gone now, so I need a new vendor.
Has anyone used AfterHour for speed recently?
What is the quality like? I'm thinking of getting an order from him. I don't expect the quality to be as good as BoyMaster, but AfterHour's speed is sooooooo much cheaper IMO I'd rather just get the cheaper stuff and use a bit more of it. Because the cost per dose would be lower, if that makes sense...
Jorg
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Drought is over for me - d-amphetamine from CookieClub (he signs as CC, but we already have CC, so I propose we call him/her/them Cookie;D ) arrived this morning. Snorted a few small lines (no scales ATM, but should be ~50-60mg. worth) and I'm feeling real nice.
More info on that, been following cookieclub for a while, mainly because of his lsd. Never saw speed from him. How much did you buy/how much did it cost? Where's the listing gone?
Cookie had a small test batch on sale, but the listing was gone before I had the chance to order. I asked him about restock, and he was nice enough to send me a gram 'from him personal stash'. It cost me around 40$ incl. shipping. I was very impressed by his service (little things, like the way drugs were packaged looked 'elegant' and convenient). I already asked him if he plans to bring more of dextero, hopefully he will and without price increase..
BTW, do you, or anyone else, know what are the 'tells' of d-amphetamine? What are main differences in effects from racemic amph?
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Drought is over for me - d-amphetamine from CookieClub (he signs as CC, but we already have CC, so I propose we call him/her/them Cookie;D ) arrived this morning. Snorted a few small lines (no scales ATM, but should be ~50-60mg. worth) and I'm feeling real nice.
Out of interest, did sniffing it sting more or less then usual?
I've got no answers to your question about how to tell d-amp from racemic stuff btw.
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BTW, do you, or anyone else, know what are the 'tells' of d-amphetamine? What are main differences in effects from racemic amph?
Hard to be precise, since we're talking about things that are going to vary from person to person (and since it's almost impossible to be 100% certain what molecules you've just ingested). In general, dextroamphetamine (i.e. d-amphetamine, two ways of saying the same thing) is more psychologically acting and produces less peripheral stimulation. Less jittery, less compulsive (jaw grinding/clenching, fidgeting, ticks, etc.). Which isn't to say it lacks such effects -- it certainly causes all of those as well. But in general, it provides more mental stimulation and less physical/peripheral stimulation, whereas levoamphetamine (the other isomer, i.e. l-amphetamine) is the opposite.
It's interesting to note that levoMETHamphetamine is different. Supposedly l-methamphetamine has almost no noticeable mental stimulation at all and only very minor peripheral stimulation (as in it's less powerful than caffeine). D-methamphetamine is crystal meth (well, the part of crystal meth that's actually useful, at least).
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Drought is over for me - d-amphetamine from CookieClub ..
Out of interest, did sniffing it sting more or less then usual?
Sting was noticeable. Stronger than latest batch I had from CC, but in the past I have had 'regular' amphetamine that really burned the nose. I think it has to do with pH levels and doesn't mean much. (?)
Hard to be precise, since we're talking about things that are going to vary from person to person (and since it's almost impossible to be 100% certain what molecules you've just ingested). In general, dextroamphetamine (i.e. d-amphetamine, two ways of saying the same thing) is more psychologically acting and produces less peripheral stimulation. Less jittery, less compulsive (jaw grinding/clenching, fidgeting, ticks, etc.). Which isn't to say it lacks such effects -- it certainly causes all of those as well. But in general, it provides more mental stimulation and less physical/peripheral stimulation, whereas levoamphetamine (the other isomer, i.e. l-amphetamine) is the opposite.
Good info. d-amphetamine is more potent per same weight too, right? Also, it's supposed to be shorter-acting?
Cookie replied that they are working on restock, and that it will take some time. No info on pricing yet.
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Also did Jurgens medical grade stuff a few months ago. It was very very good, bit overpriced though and it probably was partly meth which at first outraged me - there was someone who did a test of it in Austria I think, it was 10-10-80 (amph-meth-caff) or something. But today I'm rather grateful for this, it was topnotch. It opened my eyes. Meth is pretty safe at dosages below 0,5 mg/kg daily even. Just 0,2-0,3 mg/kg can do wonders and add to that some quality amph and productivity is crazy.
Ordered from DB4D which never appeared, but got 70 % back so it was probably just a glitch. Still would like to try it.
BM and MrUK at the same time thrice. At first I preferred MrUK, also very fast delivery, since I had the body load problem from BM's. But the second time it changed and I was all about BM from then. Luckily I wasnt around to get fucked by MrUK.
Right now, I chose to go with Juergens Polish stuff :-) seems cheap enough if 40 %.
Looking forward to the return of BM and I am also anticipating CC.
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Drought is over for me - d-amphetamine from CookieClub ..
Out of interest, did sniffing it sting more or less then usual?
Sting was noticeable. Stronger than latest batch I had from CC, but in the past I have had 'regular' amphetamine that really burned the nose. I think it has to do with pH levels and doesn't mean much. (?)
Yeh, the burn varies and it probably means nothing. I only asked because they sell 4-FA as well, apparently it feels like d-amp and it burns like 'fucking hell that's not going up my nose again'. My scam sensor was flickering - it's unlikely to be d-amp and 4-FA seemed plausible.
Call me cynical but it's probably just good speed. There's nothing wrong with that though - got any spare?
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Yeh, the burn varies and it probably means nothing. I only asked because they sell 4-FA as well, apparently it feels like d-amp and it burns like 'fucking hell that's not going up my nose again'. My scam sensor was flickering - it's unlikely to be d-amp and 4-FA seemed plausible.
Nah, I don't think it's 4-FA. I went through a gram of 4-fa couple of months back. I never snorted it, but the I did oral dosages 100mg+ and it felt weaker/different than todays experience.
I'm having a headache now:/ I need another go or two to blame it on d-amphetamine though..
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I only asked because they sell 4-FA as well, apparently it feels like d-amp and it burns like 'fucking hell that's not going up my nose again'. My scam sensor was flickering - it's unlikely to be d-amp and 4-FA seemed plausible.
I've never tried the 4- and 3- variants of the fluorine substituted phenethylamines (erm, not a chemist, but I think I got that right, heh), but I've usually seen them compared to the more psychedelic amphetamines (that are almost nothing like speed/meth -- MDMA/ecstasy, MDA; those kinds). 2-FA and 2-FMA are the only ones I've seen compared to speed. This is just second-hand anecdotal stuff, but I'd think the difference would be pretty apparent to anybody that's tried real/decent speed. I don't think somebody could get away with selling 2-, 3-, or 4-F(M)A as d-amp. Suppose that wouldn't stop the occasional person from trying anyway, though...
Enough amphetamines -- no matter what quality they are -- will give you a headache sometimes. I had to take a couple tylenol for one earlier myself :)
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Also did Juergens medical grade stuff a few months ago. It was pretty good, bit overpriced though and it probably was partly meth which at first outraged me - there was someone who did a test of it in Austria I think it was 10-10-80 (amph-meth-caff). But today I'm rather grateful for this. It opened my eyes. Meth is pretty safe at dosages below 0,5 mg/kg daily even. Just 0,2-0,3 mg/kg can do wonders and add to that some quality amph and productivity is crazy.
I did a test myself after I tried his medical phosphate -- there was no meth in it.The day after ingesting some I took a urine test which came back negative for methamphetamine. Although this was from a batch a few months ago as I said.
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Cookie had a small test batch on sale, but the listing was gone before I had the chance to order. I asked him about restock, and he was nice enough to send me a gram 'from him personal stash'. It cost me around 40$ incl. shipping. I was very impressed by his service (little things, like the way drugs were packaged looked 'elegant' and convenient). I already asked him if he plans to bring more of dextero, hopefully he will and without price increase..
BTW, do you, or anyone else, know what are the 'tells' of d-amphetamine? What are main differences in effects from racemic amph?
I messaged him right away maybe I get lucky and grab one as well (not very hopeful).
Differences will be subjective of course, but in a nutshell: d-amp acts more on the bran/CNS, l-amp will act more on the body. I don't remember much from dexedrine, but I believe I still had a nice body high. Much more calm (from) the outside. But it's been a while, direct comparison would be awesome.
d-amp I believe (taken from d-meth) should be able to form crystals unlike racemic amp. not sure. that's all been a while.
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did anyone try abzu or crystalmethcat? the latter might have some meth in the speed :P
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I see at the public labtest results all the time...
I did CC on CW comedown. made my mind sharp and clear like a razor. wouldn't do it again though. not exactly a fan of meth.
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New seller in town, Powerade. Selling at $8.85/gram that's not a lot :P
Saying it's from Holland and wet..
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did anyone try abzu or crystalmethcat? the latter might have some meth in the speed :P
Has that every been the case in your experience muesli?
Meth being more expensive, would seem strange to cut a less expensive product with it.
Anyone ever actually ever tried the two together?
I would think much more negative bodyload for not much more of a high?
Unless I'm in hibernation/survival mode -- which happens whenever I'm almost out -- my average day involves some adderall or dexedrine, caffeine, swallowed or vaped meth (i.e. smoked, I just hate calling it that since if heated enough to be smoking instead of just vaporizing, you're losing product), and for the past month or two I occasionally throw in a bit from my dwindling sack of BM's amp and a bump of 2-FMA if I'm in the mood to get tweaked out of my skull. Combining every stim you can get your hands on is a lot less productive than you might think... infact, I end up sitting here refreshing the forum every 20 mins while I tinker with some half-useless little project off and on hour after hour. Not much in the way of productive accomplishment... bleh.
I've been told by others that for them, meth is more suited to times when they need to calmly focus on a mental task, but for me it doesn't work that way. Meth is a little too much of a "high" for me to really get anything truly productive from it. Combining it with adderall or dexedrine or whatever else doesn't change the fact that I never seem to feel motivated or fascinated intellectually on meth. I just kind of... well, get tweaked, feel more high than when I'm only on d-amp, and kind of do nothing useful yet have a pretty good time all the same.
Meth and 2-FMA pull me out of my thoughts and in to the world around me... I feel extremely "present," on both of them. That word really describes 2-FMA in particular. Just totally in the moment and firmly anchored to the world around me. With adderall or dexedrine, it's the opposite: they pull me deeper into my thoughts and I forget the world outside my mind even exists sometimes let alone pay attention to it. Get a lot more done with pharmies (and enjoy the act of being productive in itself as well).
Hope that answers your question. Pardon me if I missed what you were after -- this afternoon was a "get tweaked out of my skull," thing and I'm still a little... spacy. A whole lot spacy, actually. Almost forgot what specifically I was trying to answer, lol... <--- that last sentence is a perfect example of how much it enhances the intellect to combine stims (it's better to stick to a heavy dose of one for that I find)
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New seller in town, Powerade. Selling at $8.85/gram that's not a lot :P
Saying it's from Holland and wet..
already ordered. Is this you GE? :D
At one point it has to be him with good speed :P
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Ahhh GE, fairly good speed for a reasonable price :D We'll know once it lands in the mailbox :P
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New seller in town, Powerade. Selling at $8.85/gram that's not a lot :P
Saying it's from Holland and wet..
already ordered. Is this you GE? :D
At one point it has to be him with good speed :P
I hope it is GE just for the fact I enjoyed his amphetamine and price. 1+ to my German speaking friend muslix. Thanks for ordering. I liked it when there were 3 vendors providing top quality pep (capitalistic competition).; I hope one of these new comers turns out great stuff. This low priced mid-low quality seems great and all, but I don't want to ship and potentially have a problem with that much wasted non-amphetamine cut/weight. 85% and above for me only. Proline is advertising 95%, I may have to sample that; I have a message sent to him. I have a ton left over from the big three (Well, actually BM's is running lowest), but it still makes me nervous not having my two favorite offering my favorite:(
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Finally, they fixed the bug that were setting most vendor on vacation.
here my 50 pills pack http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/a11636494e
Thanks everyone, and I am happy that they finally fixed the bug!! my listing are visible again!
Good day everyone.
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Dude seriously STOP posting your pills, make a thread of your own and post your updates there.
I'm getting a bit itchy seeing your link on every fucking page in the thread.
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I messaged him right away maybe I get lucky and grab one as well (not very hopeful).
Differences will be subjective of course, but in a nutshell: d-amp acts more on the bran/CNS, l-amp will act more on the body. I don't remember much from dexedrine, but I believe I still had a nice body high. Much more calm (from) the outside. But it's been a while, direct comparison would be awesome.
d-amp I believe (taken from d-meth) should be able to form crystals unlike racemic amp. not sure. that's all been a while.
I couldn't sleep last night from that single dose in the morning. This never happened to me before. Dosed again this morning to get through the day, feeling crappy by now:/
So for me Cookie's d-amp compared to regular amp:
- sweating
- comedown with headache
- can't sleep long time after dosing
- I feel more talkative/social on it
- makes me very concentrated on what I do, didn't even take cigarette break yesterday.
Thanks to 5032 I'm having doubts if this is really d-amp. The high was great yesterday, but there was a price to pay. I will take couple days off to recuperate.
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Dude seriously STOP posting your pills, make a thread of your own and post your updates there.
I'm getting a bit itchy seeing your link on every fucking page in the thread.
I received like 4 pm's from people asking if i disapeard and scammed people because my link disapeard.
I posted my link here, but it wasnt working because of vacation bug.. i got 2 more pm's asking why my link not working.
Now that its fixed, to notice all people that sent me pm and probly much more that though the same but without sending pm, i posted here.
I'm sorry if you 'do not like' that but, i think that its fair for me to notice people that my vacation bug was fixed when i received few pm's asking wtf was going on.
Thank you.
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Make. Your. Own. Topic.
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I couldn't sleep last night from that single dose in the morning. This never happened to me before. Dosed again this morning to get through the day, feeling crappy by now:/
Interesting. D-amp should have a shorter half-life than DL. I remember that from dexedrine, I had an event horizon, beyond which I wouldn't allow myself to take more, or else I had troubles falling asleep and needed benzos. Switch to Adderall and I had to move it back a few hours, I think it ended up at 1400.
btw do we have any extremely helpful UK people in here that could help me with a small shipping problem? Or at least some advice?
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considering trying out this new vendor's amphetamine
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/3644ecda60
anybody have any info?
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Well it's too cheap not to try.. I mean, 3.50$ for 0.5 is next to nothing.. I have ordered and it is already in transit, we'll see I guess ;)
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I will do the same once my damn BTCs get here
cheers
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I'm still waiting on a couple more coins from earlier today, but I think I will try 5grams from Powerade once I get them.
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So we are back at square 1!? Just with a inhuman tolerance that makes average speed useless. haha. :)
Pears are an awesome fruit to eat while on speed!
Everyone who suffers from annoying vasoconstriction can use a vasodialator! That is for example: THC and PDE5-Inhibitors (low dose for minimum side-effects recommended).
Where's CC? I wrote such a nice message to him... Now he's awol ?!
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We indeed are at 1^2 again! Could mean good things also after all. History really repeats itself, you can watch it live on SR! hehe
And about Powerade: Got a slight hunch that he will turn things around here. Prediction: Price/Value will be unbeatable. He will be #1 speed vendor in a month from now. Mark. my. words.
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There are two new Germany Vendors - "Powerade" and "Proline".
i don´t know, but i´m thinking one of them both is "MrFireUK". The discribtion is identity :)
why are here so many abfucker Vendors? They can make a lot of money here on SR and then they fucked the people and nobody will buy from them. And then comes a new account and started again.
in the moment for me is the best quality from "Rocketman" I hope it´ll be for a long time. the only negative is the weight - it´s wet and when it´s dry it lost over 30%!
so far
pete
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Ordered 5g from the new vendor Powerade.
Will update once received and tested. :)
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How many vendors ship stealthily recently?
The customs where I live has become a _major_ issue but I doubt they'd catch packages with stealthiness in the degree of BoyMaster (which now seems inactive)
Anyone knows anything about when/if he will return btw? Did he ever get around to sell his 99% stuff? I got about 0.5-1g left of his old 70% purity product that was cheap as fuck ($55:ish for 5g), truly a god amongst phet vendors if you ask me.
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I decided to do my part and will sample/test Proline's Ultra Pure (95%).............will follow up.
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Quick question: I have ordered my first and only two orders from BM over the last few weeks, and can say that I couldn't have been more pleased. I have experience with meth in the past, but BM's speed was great, a small amount insufflated before work in the morning ~40 mgs had me in a euphoric state for 1-2 hours, then productive another 6-8 hours after that!
Anyways, my friend, who has used adderall for quite some time wants to try it, so i capsulated 40 mg's for him (he doesn't snort). I did some research on the breakdown of adderall ingredients, and only a quarter of it is an amp sulfate.
Does anybody know firsthand how adderall and amphetamine sulfate differ? What should I recommend to him as a dose?
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Kind fellows,
can't wait to read about the experiences with proline and powerade here.
I will have my bitcoins ready by friday or saturday to get my order in line for a full week of holidays. Gonna keep the order domestic and want to give one of the 2 new sellers a try.
Keep us updated please 8)
Greetings !
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Heh, I see that without BM and CC even wet dutch speed paste started sounding good to everyone :D
I still haven't had a normal sleep since Monday. Sucks that there are no testing centers around my parts, I'm so curious what this d-amp I got from Cookie really is. Well, or a proof that it's really that. d-amp should have slightly shorter half-life, and yet I can't sleep at night when I dose in the morning. Managed to sleep 9 hours since Monday, the rest is spent doing whatever on internet.
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+1 for caffeine_me for taking the plunge on proline. I believe the 25g listings are just the equivalent of the 5g + adulterants.
There are two new Germany Vendors - "Powerade" and "Proline".
i don´t know, but i´m thinking one of them both is "MrFireUK". The discribtion is identity :)
why are here so many abfucker Vendors? They can make a lot of money here on SR and then they fucked the people and nobody will buy from them. And then comes a new account and started again.
in the moment for me is the best quality from "Rocketman" I hope it´ll be for a long time. the only negative is the weight - it´s wet and when it´s dry it lost over 30%!
Neither of your options is FireUK, but he's back I'm pretty sure. Most people are fooled so easily here, it's unbelievable. If you figured out some of his fake forum accounts, then you should know that he is not that bad at hiding his tracks. But not great either. I could make sure but that would involve me ordering and I don't see that happening any time soon. As long as FUK stays legit, who cares if he has a new account? My theory is that he got overwhelmed by a shitload of orders and went insane or something like that.
About Powerade: I think I know him, or at least his source (not personally, but I believe I already had some of this). Prices were similar and quality was pretty decent, my guess was around 40% back then. I agree that it looks slightly like FUK, but I doubt he is. FUK needs to hide his tracks for a while, so he wouldn't do something as obvious as this. Just check their writing styles, doesn't match. Details matter.
Won't give away any of my theories and especially not how I got to the conclusion. People who got themselves ripped off towards the end of FUK, well... it's their own fault, there was never a case with more warnings than this. So even if I would tell everyone, people wouldn't believe me. I put my money on Powerade. Price to Value ratio should be extremely good if it really is from the source I hope it is :)
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I really dont know where to buy since BM disappeared. I hope he come back in the next week.
Made a purchase from dagobert (6g of speed) and will buy the 5g 95% listing of proline. Will update on package/quality after that, even though i cant believe it is great quality for the cheap price (60USD).
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Anyone messaged BM for an ETA?
Or CC? Don't want to flood them.
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Well, received Powerrade's stuff, pretty damn quick.. can't even finalize yet :P
At least he's being honest about amount lost when drying it, I worked the math and it dried 29% for me :)
Quality is pretty decent, especially when compared to the price. I think I'm gonna buy more cause this is perfect stuff to give to friends :P
Gonna do some more testing on this stuff, but first results are pretty nice.
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Well, received Powerrade's stuff, pretty damn quick.. can't even finalize yet :P
At least he's being honest about amount lost when drying it, I worked the math and it dried 29% for me :)
Quality is pretty decent, especially when compared to the price. I think I'm gonna buy more cause this is perfect stuff to give to friends :P
Gonna do some more testing on this stuff, but first results are pretty nice.
Assuming that you would only pass good stuff to your friends, this sounds good. Can't wait to get my hands on my bitcoins and then on the stuff from the new domestic vendors to celebrate my holidays...
8)
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Nah it's more like semi-decent stuff to give mooching friends who never get anything for themselves :P
Not gonna hand out BoyMaster's stuff at 20€/gram 8)
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Heard from BM........No time estimate could be given :( :( :( :( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Nah it's more like semi-decent stuff to give mooching friends who never get anything for themselves :P
Not gonna hand out BoyMaster's stuff at 20€/gram 8)
Although i've got some couch mooching friends too and would easily get rid of it, i think i'm gonna try prolines hq advertised stuff for my personal stash then. 8)
don't think it's as pure as advertised (>90 when i rember correctly) but for that small money i'll give it a try.
thanks mate !
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Has anyone tried Afterhour's stuff. I'd like to hear about it.
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Nah it's more like semi-decent stuff to give mooching friends who never get anything for themselves :P
Not gonna hand out BoyMaster's stuff at 20€/gram 8)
don't think it's as pure as advertised (>90 when i rember correctly) but for that small money i'll give it a try.
It's advertised as 50%+
But my experience today after 250mg leads me to believe that it's about 1/5th the strength of CC's gear..
Assuming CC's is 90%+ pure I would guess this gear around 20% amphetamine level..
Bit low, and if I remember he says it's cut with lactose so a acetone wash is pretty useless to clear it (right?)
But with a price at 4-5€/gram... oh well just take a bit more :P
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Heard from BM........No time estimate could be given :( :( :( :( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I actually prefer that over: it's done in two weeks and then delaying over and over again. BM, if you read this, use something like "not before the end of November" for example, that way no one gets his hopes up and gets disappointed.
Don't forget CC, he will be back soon as well with a new batch. But he is a bit of a perfectionist (that's good and bad), so there could be slight delays until it's "perfect". =)
btw. I found a quick way from CC to us in EU, but I need to ask CC what he thinks about it. Could speed up things quite a bit.
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Hmm.. CC is pretty fast in my opinion.. Just 7 days last time from South-Africa to Holland.. :o
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I couldn't sleep last night from that single dose in the morning. This never happened to me before. Dosed again this morning to get through the day, feeling crappy by now:/
Interesting. D-amp should have a shorter half-life than DL. I remember that from dexedrine, I had an event horizon, beyond which I wouldn't allow myself to take more, or else I had troubles falling asleep and needed benzos. Switch to Adderall and I had to move it back a few hours, I think it ended up at 1400.
That isn't actually a property of d-amp vs. l-amp as far as I know (not saying it isn't, just that I know nothing that says it is). Adderall lasts longer because it's a combination of four different amphetamine salts, each with a slightly different rate of absorption and bioavailability. Dexedrine is pure dextroamphetamine hydrochloride; adderall is dextroamphetamine sulfate, dextroamphetamine saccharrate, amphetamine sulfate, and amphetamine aspartate. BTW, the saccharate and aspartate have nothing to do with it tasting like artificial sweetener (no relation to saccharine or aspartame): some of them taste semi-sweet because Barr, one of the major manufacturers, puts sugar in the pill to make it taste better (theirs are ovals, most others I've seen are circles). A little questionable given that it's notorious for being prescribed to children, but hey, big pharma does what it likes I guess.
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Hmm.. CC is pretty fast in my opinion.. Just 7 days last time from South-Africa to Holland.. :o
12 - 14 days for me. I guess you have the more direct route to CC.
So here's a mini review of Powerade (this has to be taken with a huge rock of salt):
With my tolerance one of the bigger bumps might actually kill a newbie. lol
The speed was wet, but not dripping wet. My baggy had a small hole at the bottom so it leaked into the vac-seal plastic. No big deal, that's (partly) what the seal-bag is for. But I wasn't able to get a weight of the wet product.
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The solvent is ethanol based I believe. Safes me the alcohol wash, thx. Need acetone tho. I cut everything open and let it dry for a bit. It weighed in at -27%, considering I definitely lost some product along the way this ain't that bad.
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First things first and I took about 1/3 of my order (keep in mind I was BM-contaminated, had Antihistamines in my body and took small amount of Xanax after lunch). I quickly; made a Marquis-Test (straight to orange - slow fade to brown - all good), next did a Mandelin (went straight to a really nice green - fade to grey - also all good). Waste of my 2 last tests.
Marquis: xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=1b43e0005271a472047645cfb3fae742.jpg
Mandelin: xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=8da2bbd0034ff6fc5c3089a2ec64fdb0.jpg
After that I fell asleep (that was maybe 30 min in, before the speed kicked in). Woke up 2.5hrs later, wide awake covered in sweat. But no speed high, so I decided to drop the rest 15mins ago. My first impression would be, that it's definitely cut, d'oh! but not with extreme amounts of caffeine.
Will update this post, once it kicks in. But due to my contamination I rely more on you guys, so post!
edit: @guys here: Is anyone of you currently in need of Benzos? Maybe I buy from Eastern EU, no Asian generics, either original brand or high quality European generics. kobrivoje and italiano sell what I can get as well, my prices are not as ridiculous though. My problem is the minimum order (low on cash). Example: join me with $50, get 85x1mg Ksalol (great Xanax generic) or 65x1mg Xanax or 100x2.5mg Ativan (Lorazepam). Prices are for minimum orders on each. More is always possible (cheaper). One time offer, not gonna do that again, I rather start vending them and make a fortune. PM if interested.
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I also just dosed on some of powerade's speed.
I took 40mg orally, about as much as I would take of BM's speed. I know I will probably have to redose but for comparison purposes I thought I would keep the dose equal.
about 20 minutes into it, I feel slight stimulation and bit feverish (??) comparable to a coffee buzz
this guy ships fast btw, took a bit over 24 hours! That's a big plus in my books
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def reccommend boymaster from spain :) speed sulphate, awsome stealth & quick delivery doesnt require fe..top vendour i cant wait to order more
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Has anyone tried Afterhour's stuff. I'd like to hear about it.
+1
I'd also like to hear something solid about it, searched dozens of pages for a decent impression of it but didn't really find sth. useful.
but lemme give sth. back first, cause i also got some of powerades speed. since i am also currently highly tolerant, i am not sure how good of a judge i am, anyways:
product arrived safe&sound. upon opening and smelling i also directly noticed that there was not the usual chemical smell (acetone?). it smelled like isopropyl-alcohol or ethanol, i agree with mueslix. also had leakage inside the outer bag, not really an issue though. however, i put a lighter next to the still wet outer baggy and lit what was remaining of the fluid inside. it directly ignited (i wanted to proof my theory that it is indeed ethanol/isopropyl, unfortunately i don't know if acetone is also that easy igniteable.
when drying and cutting/hacking the stuff, i noticed that i ended up with a snow-white, very fine powder. my first thought was: this is definitely cut and i was assuming it is quite heavily cut. i have never had such a "white" speed before, for me this felt quite unnatural. and it is a very fine powder (when properly grinded), which is also more rather the exception than the rule when it comes to my experience with this stuff. don't get me wrong, of course you can grind anything to fine powder, however with this stuff i can do it in about a minute for a gram, it grinds down very quickly.
a big plus is that it looks really clean though, didnt spot any impurities, it has got a very uniform texture.
effect:
did some lines yesterday evening and got quite talkative, but that was after about 0.5g (maybe it was 1g) I guess. remember, i have a high tolerance, so 100-200mg just don't cut it for me right now. i was under the impression that my heart-rate increased like it would when having too much caffeine. however, i also have a high caffeine tolerance right now (damn me), so i am not sure. all in all this still seems pretty decent, especially considering the price.
i am planning to not sleep tonight aided by powerades stuff. i shall see if powerades stuff is potent enough to keep me awake all night and how much i need to take to achieve this.
the price per g ratio though is currently unmatched and i will decide this weekend if i'm going to order more of his speed or if i will order some more of rocketmans. i can clearly say though, that rocketmans stuff is more potent, however i am not able to tell yet if the great prices of powerades make up for it.
considering service, product-quality and price i would give powerades speed a 8 out of 10 right now.
i will report back when the sun rises again...
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Any news on CC or BM?
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Acetone is incredibly flammable. Like actually rather dangerously so, FYI.
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Has anyone tried Afterhour's stuff. I'd like to hear about it.
i am planning to not sleep tonight aided by powerades stuff. i shall see if powerades stuff is potent enough to keep me awake all night and how much i need to take to achieve this.
the price per g ratio though is currently unmatched and i will decide this weekend if i'm going to order more of his speed or if i will order some more of rocketmans. i can clearly say though, that rocketmans stuff is more potent, however i am not able to tell yet if the great prices of powerades make up for it.
considering service, product-quality and price i would give powerades speed a 8 out of 10 right now.
i will report back when the sun rises again...
I continued dosing on Powerade's speed last night, taking in about 20mg lines every half our so but never really got to the point that I wanted to be. Today I will take a much larger dose.
I was able to sleep with no problems 3 hours after my last dose last night. This would have been impossible on BM's speed. I have a difficult time getting any sleep even 12(!) hours after my last dose of BMs stuff. That is the only thing I dislike about his speed, although it it is great, over time it will turn me into a sleepless Zombie.
I should be getting some of Rocketman's stuff today. It will be interesting to compare it to Powerade's product
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Amphetamine is a substance that belongs to a group called Weckamines. Old German term, basically means Amines that wake you up/keep you awake. It is meant to stimulate the brain so you don't fall asleep. That's a bit like saying: I really like Vicodin, but I dislike that my leg goes numb.
Thanks everyone for letting us know how it compares to BM's! I almost thought their products are equal. :P
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Well I've been AWOL dealing with some stuff. Anyone else got a thing where snorting doesn't seem to work as well as just taking it orally?
I mean it works but never seems to give me quite as good effects. I've tried snorting in all manners of different ways I suppose it's just how my nasal passage is. I clear with snorting water also... When I'm doing speed I always take it orally usually just dumped in water when I'm lazily redosing or in a cap/rizla.
I found this unique info on BD (mainly to avoid getting as much powder into your nose as possible.. I'm not sure I fully understand it. Maybe I'll try it next time)
" Inhale. You don't have to breathe in deeply, just a normal lungful will do.
Close off your throat, i.e. start holding your breath. This will separate your lungs from your mouth and sinuses, which will be filled with airborne powder in a few seconds.
Close your mouth, getting all of the air out.
With your lips closed, snort your powder as you usually do, using your (initially empty) mouth to create suction by moving your jaw down and your tongue down and back (like when you yawn). In other words, suck air into your mouth through your nose. This part will take a little getting used to, since you're creating suction with your mouth rather than your diaphragm.
Seal off your sinuses from your (now full) mouth and empty it through your lips.
Repeat steps 4 & 5 until holding your breath starts to become uncomfortable.
Seal off your sinuses from your mouth again, open your lips, and exhale. Your lungs will now be connected to the atmosphere through your mouth, which you just blew all of the powder out of.
Inhale through your mouth only.
Repeat steps 2 – 8 as necessary.
Close off your lips and exhale through your nose. (Optional: exhale half a lungful of air through each nostril by shutting one with your finger and blowing through the other one.)
That's it. The job will be done, and not a speck of powder will end up in your lungs.
On a personal note, I used to snort with my lungs and always had a chronic low-grade cough. Since switching to this method, that cough has disappeared completely. "
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Well I've been AWOL dealing with some stuff. Anyone else got a thing where snorting doesn't seem to work as well as just taking it orally?
Yeah, completely agree. Adderall, dexedrine, BM's speed, even meth -- none of them do a whole lot for me if I put them up my nose. Don't really care for the feeling that way either.
Ritalin (methylphenidate) is actually the only thing I really ever loved to snort. Better than blow, if you ask me. No clue why, but for me it is.
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To my fellow members of this wonderful community.
I know the quality of my latest batch has not been the best. But believe AA when he says he can now sort either
, powder
washback crystal
wet dutch stuff
Try AfghanApothecary
loves amp himself.
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To my fellow members of this wonderful community.
I know the quality of my latest batch has not been the best. But believe AA when he says he can now sort either
, powder
washback crystal
wet dutch stuff
Try AfghanApothecary
loves amp himself.
Sorry man, I know English may not be your first language, but I just don't understand that...? The only thing I can think of is that you mean sort in the British sense, as in "sort it out?" So you can offer those three is what you mean? ... also, wuzza washback crystal?
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I have here, test tube full of crystals look prettier than meth, like white mdma, i would say this is speed crystal, cut with caffeine but it cannot be smoked. i \am sure i removed allot of cut, i only have a gram or so, but it is cool
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I'm really glad to hear that there are other people here who also don't get awesome effects by doing BM's stuff. Maybe it's really about the isomeric ratio, maybe BM's stuff is really strong on the levo- site. But who knows, I'm not a chemist. What just confuses me, is that BM's amp completely lacks of dopamine for me. If these effects were there, the strong bodyload wouldn't bother me much.
Anyways, how did you guys experience CC's stuff? I heard that it doesn't have these strong body effects, so is it more like Juergen's medcial grade? I'd love to get some amp like that again... :)
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Re: Snorting vs eating
BM's sulphate goes great in a cup of tea, I prefer rooibos since it has no caffeine. Snorting is for kids and posers!
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I'm really glad to hear that there are other people here who also don't get awesome effects by doing BM's stuff. Maybe it's really about the isomeric ratio, maybe BM's stuff is really strong on the levo- site. But who knows, I'm not a chemist. What just confuses me, is that BM's amp completely lacks of dopamine for me. If these effects were there, the strong bodyload wouldn't bother me much.
Anyways, how did you guys experience CC's stuff? I heard that it doesn't have these strong body effects, so is it more like Juergen's medcial grade? I'd love to get some amp like that again... :)
have you tried dosing orally? Most amphetamine doesn't effect me very much when I snort it. The only time I really get the effects I desire is when I dose orally, same applies to BM's speed. The only speed I was able to insulfate successfully was FireUK's speed a couple months back
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I'm really glad to hear that there are other people here who also don't get awesome effects by doing BM's stuff. Maybe it's really about the isomeric ratio, maybe BM's stuff is really strong on the levo- site. But who knows, I'm not a chemist. What just confuses me, is that BM's amp completely lacks of dopamine for me. If these effects were there, the strong bodyload wouldn't bother me much.
Anyways, how did you guys experience CC's stuff? I heard that it doesn't have these strong body effects, so is it more like Juergen's medcial grade? I'd love to get some amp like that again... :)
have you tried dosing orally? Most amphetamine doesn't effect me very much when I snort it. The only time I really get the effects I desire is when I dose orally, same applies to BM's speed. The only speed I was able to insulfate successfully was FireUK's speed a couple months back
Yes I have, many times, in many different doses. I tried putting it into water as I did with Juergen's medical grade, I put it into capsules, but I always got the same results. I didn't even try snorting it, because I came to the same conclusion some time ago that snorting amp does not work for me at all. With Juergen's stuff, I always got the effects I desired, no matter in what situation. I always used it orally, besides shooting it up a few times.
By now, I can honestly say that BM's stuff just don't do it for me, but I really have no logical explanation. The only other stimulant that effected me in this way before was CW's Meth, from the batch about 7 months ago. Unpleasant, nervous stimulation, where i can't really concentrate on anything, can't sit still for 10 seconds and feeling just uncomfortable. Juergen's stuff did about the opposite to me.
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BM's sulphate goes great in a cup of tea, I prefer rooibos since it has no caffeine. Snorting is for kids and posers!
It might go great in the tea, but then the tea won't go great through my mouth in my stomach. It tastes pretty horrible.
With CC being AWOL and BM having a break, what to do now? Powerade is promising, but the sample didn't do much for me, my tolerance is too high for normal speed :P Knomo's estimate of 20-ish percent sounds about right tho. Hm, sucks. Still got some of BM left, but I do take BM's ETAs with a grain of salt by now and use my resources sparingly.
CC to the rescue!!
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28 bitcoins lay in wait for an almighty session, just waiting for the site to emerge from the abyss, or whatever.
I'm watching this thread closely for indications that at least one vendor is genuine and sells uncut speed. Many thanks to you guys for posting up your reports. :)
Nothing upsets me more than being in possession of once superior amphetamine thats been combined with adulterants.
Total waste of money, time, effort etc And it happens far too much. On the street and on the net :(
I think it maybe because dealers decide its too strong for a regular customers, and therefore cut it up.
Or maybe the majority of these people have £$ signs in their eyes and dont give a fuck how their buyers feel about it
There was one vendor that cut it up, but advertised it as street speed, and sold uncut speed alongside it < this is acceptable to me
It's deception, earning a little extra cash at the expense of the consumers trust. it's very common.
Theres only a few exceptions. Humans that become respected and trusted servants to an otherwise corrupt market.
After a couple of conversations with CapeCrusader I know, I feel, that this guy isn't going to rush producing a quality amphetamine, so he can rake in the cash. Nor will he cut something he's spent years accumulating the wealth of knowledge and expertise, to then decimate it by adding adulterants.
If he follows this then naturally, money will flow like water. And a loyal customer customer base is established, the flow will turn into a torrent. its about authenticity
"trust no one" was advice given to me many years ago when I was a youth, I'm like "is it really that bad?"
After years of being let down, I found people block their feelings out and go to any lengths to accumulate money, to the detriment of their spiritual self, slowly dying.
Capitalist are about having more money and ascending to a higher status, using and abusing people along the way, and wanting more. This does not lead to happiness or fulfillment, it's a steady decline to a miserable existance.
Thats what is going on here, everywhere.
We're made of energy, everything is. and this is where the real wealth is. If youre more valuable as a person, you get more, on many levels.
So many people are frightened because they dont know the truth, supress it and deny it. build walls around them and "live" in total isolation from humanity. Soul destroying at its finest.
Luckily people are waking up to this, and they cant get away from being exposed on the internet, no matter how much dishonest people lie to themselves about how their scheming will succeed. It's not their fault, their doing their best and unaware that there is a far superior way to conduct themselves, without cheating those they come into contact with.
I have no idea why speed is so often degraded. It's a relatively low cost drug, albeit, a total bitch to produce
I apologise for the rant, maybe it will stir some affinity though.
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On another note, I've been scouring the internet for alternatives and found two that fit the bill. One is called Noopept, that is a very strong nootropic, that also indicates Neurogenesis, meaning it wont rot your brain like many drugs do, instead having lasting effects that remain even after the drug has left the system. It can be used for 5/7 days... possibly useful for allowing amphetamine tolerance reduction?
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=239103 < is a user account
It's relatively cheap too, I even found vendors on eBay!
The other is phenylpiracetam (supposedly 1000x times stronger than the original piracetam, but probably an exaggeration) that is also a nootropic (cognitive and neurological enhancer, for those unaware) this stuff is reported to enhance focus, provide stimulation and endurance. Tolerance builds up fast apparently, but its powerful stuff. The price is bordering on extortionate, although a brand called Demiurge is much cheaper than the original russian brand, 60 caps for £30 ($46), approx 30 days supply, discounting tolerance breaks. Other brands of this nootropic retail for around £5 a pill, putting people off
Decent user account here: http://supplementreviews.com/antaeus-labs/demiurge
Out of the two Noopept seems significantly more popular.
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Also, still seriously considering vending. I can get top notch "straight from the lab" freebase, this stuff is potent, but i get it through a middle man, making it unfeasable at this time, wouldn't be worth my while.
I doubt I'l buy any speed until CapeCrusader completes his possibly even more spectacular batch next month.
Rock on! May you prosper with everlasting etheric light, within and beyond :)
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guizee!! ;D
looks like we got a new d- & dl-amph vendor here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=70685.0
Offering free 100mg samples (a bit sketchy, CC gave away 1g samples) of his/her 72% (I assume that's the Dutch way of indicating purity) amph. Can anyone who tried the other high purity offers safely judge the quality from 100mg? I can't.
I'll wait until there's some real listings, but go forth non-newbs and sample!
@NumNuts: TLDR for the most part, just the lines above my post. How should I put it? Please do not sell speed! You still believe in the freebase fairy tale. Educate yourself first, if you don't know your shit you will get ripped off.
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I even ordered 2 tabs of "speed" pills from TambourineMan in canada...
I imagine (hope) these will have amphetamine sulfate... and meth... and no other shit in them. since there are no reviews. Of course
Quite curious to see how this went. Any update?
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Those pills are still meth no matter who sells them.
I am slightly annoyed by this whole situation (SR down, no vendor around). need some decent speed :-\
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Also, still seriously considering vending. I can get top notch "straight from the lab" freebase, this stuff is potent, but i get it through a middle man, making it unfeasable at this time, wouldn't be worth my while.
I doubt I'l buy any speed until CapeCrusader completes his possibly even more spectacular batch next month.
Rock on! May you prosper with everlasting etheric light, within and beyond :)
Wait, wait... freebase amphetamine right from the lab? Jesus, even I could turn that into whatever salt you want and my chemistry knowledge is a fucking joke.
As they say, go on. I'm listening.
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It might go great in the tea, but then the tea won't go great through my mouth in my stomach. It tastes pretty horrible.
Do you mean tea in general or specifically tea laced with amphetamine? Because IMHO they both taste great :)
Wait, wait... freebase amphetamine right from the lab?
It's very unlikely that anyone would be selling amphetamine freebase oil, straight from the lab or not. If you search the thread for 'freebase' you'll find some discussions about it.
Check out stoney1980's summary: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.msg563009#msg563009
No offence NumNuts, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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Those pills are still meth no matter who sells them.
I am slightly annoyed by this whole situation (SR down, no vendor around). need some decent speed :-\
What should i say ? I placed my orders on friday just a little bit too late so that the vendors couldn't process it before the whole shit went down. Now i'm sitting here, one whole week holidays, coke stash only lasting for 1-2 hours, speed stash empty and the local speed market is as dry as it was never before...
To say it with the wise words of Murphy:
Anything that can possibly go wrong, does.
;)
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Hmmm. I possibly stand corrected!
Thinking about it, I asked what it was a few years back and informed that it was freebase... that gear was oily, stunk and was very strong. 0.6g lasted all day. The guy I bought it from said "The power is in the oil, keep it in the freezer"
And its similar gear to what I get now. it sticks to everything
Unsure about vending, maybe more trouble than its worth. I'm fussy about amphetamine, and I expect customers to be too (or delighted?)
Hassle is something I could be without :)
Thanks for setting me straight on this. It's better to not know, than believe bullshit
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I have a question about cutting with caffeine. I agree that it's lame, and cutting sucks. What I don't get is people here seem to also get such very negative effects from it.
But, really, if you are taking say 100mg of amp, even if it was actually 100% caffeine cut, you are still only ingesting 100mg of caffeine. This is a very normal amount of caffeine, even for a non-regular user. Most coffee is anywhere from 50-200mg caffeine, redbull is 88mg caffeine, monster is around 160mg caffeine. I'm a semi-regular caffeine user, but it still takes me 400-500mg before I start to feel discomfort close to what gets reported on the forums.
So, are people here just mistaking crappy/tainted/low quality amphetamine with caffeine-cut? Or do we just have a lot of forum member with abnormally low caffeine tolerances?
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I have a question about cutting with caffeine. I agree that it's lame, and cutting sucks. What I don't get is people here seem to also get such very negative effects from it.
But, really, if you are taking say 100mg of amp, even if it was actually 100% caffeine cut, you are still only ingesting 100mg of caffeine. This is a very normal amount of caffeine, even for a non-regular user. Most coffee is anywhere from 50-200mg caffeine, redbull is 88mg caffeine, monster is around 160mg caffeine. I'm a semi-regular caffeine user, but it still takes me 400-500mg before I start to feel discomfort close to what gets reported on the forums.
So, are people here just mistaking crappy/tainted/low quality amphetamine with caffeine-cut? Or do we just have a lot of forum member with abnormally low caffeine tolerances?
If it was 100% caffeine cut, it would be 100% caffeine, not amp + caffeine. You mean 50% caffeine I assume. On a run, I sometimes hit 3-4g in 2-5 days. That means I'd have to be taking 3-4g of caffeine in 2-5 days. Have you ever taken a gram of caffeine in a day? It does not feel good.
There's also the fact that caffeine and amphetamine have different durations. By cutting with caffeine, you're depriving me of the option to customize my caffeine/amphetamine ingestion for my own physiology. I know how to do that very well. There's no one size fits all. It's just... aggravating on the face of it. If I want more caffeine, I'll have some. I don't want it forced on me in my speed.
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I have a question about cutting with caffeine. I agree that it's lame, and cutting sucks. What I don't get is people here seem to also get such very negative effects from it.
But, really, if you are taking say 100mg of amp, even if it was actually 100% caffeine cut, you are still only ingesting 100mg of caffeine. This is a very normal amount of caffeine, even for a non-regular user. Most coffee is anywhere from 50-200mg caffeine, redbull is 88mg caffeine, monster is around 160mg caffeine. I'm a semi-regular caffeine user, but it still takes me 400-500mg before I start to feel discomfort close to what gets reported on the forums.
So, are people here just mistaking crappy/tainted/low quality amphetamine with caffeine-cut? Or do we just have a lot of forum member with abnormally low caffeine tolerances?
If it was 100% caffeine cut, it would be 100% caffeine, not amp + caffeine. You mean 50% caffeine I assume. On a run, I sometimes hit 3-4g in 2-5 days. That means I'd have to be taking 3-4g of caffeine in 2-5 days. Have you ever taken a gram of caffeine in a day? It does not feel good.
There's also the fact that caffeine and amphetamine have different durations. By cutting with caffeine, you're depriving me of the option to customize my caffeine/amphetamine ingestion for my own physiology. I know how to do that very well. There's no one size fits all. It's just... aggravating on the face of it. If I want more caffeine, I'll have some. I don't want it forced on me in my speed.
In Australia, speed / meth is sold in "points" (0.1g) and is high quality and costs $30+ / point. It may be cut slightly, but not much. And even if it were cut, there can't be more than 100mg of caffeine in it because that's how much is bought at a time. In Europe, I understand speed is a low quality and sold in grams, so there could be alot of caffeine in there.
I have had 1 gram of caffeine in a day before. Not pleasant. I was very jittery, my heart was racing and it felt like crap.
Why can't dealers just keep the product as pure and raise the price...?
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Hmmm. I'm learning about purifying speed atm. I spent about £200 on speed this last 2 weeks (ripped off on some of it) and one bag was unfit for consumption... fuck knows what was in it but it had a comedown and really fucked with my emotions. Luckily I'm well versed spiritually and kept a lid on it. 14g's of mind bending junk
Anyway, its relatively easy to do, and quite inexpensive. Acetone,coffee filter paper, glass beaker is all you need.
Theres a dual method involving isopropyl and an oven and a petri dish which assures top notch purity if done right.
Might be worth posting up the whole thing on here seeing as there are so many pissed off speed lovers, although few would bother i guess.
Type "purifying speed" in youtube, theres a german dude thats has put a video up showing it.
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If it was 100% caffeine cut, it would be 100% caffeine, not amp + caffeine. You mean 50% caffeine I assume. On a run, I sometimes hit 3-4g in 2-5 days. That means I'd have to be taking 3-4g of caffeine in 2-5 days. Have you ever taken a gram of caffeine in a day? It does not feel good.
There's also the fact that caffeine and amphetamine have different durations. By cutting with caffeine, you're depriving me of the option to customize my caffeine/amphetamine ingestion for my own physiology. I know how to do that very well. There's no one size fits all. It's just... aggravating on the face of it. If I want more caffeine, I'll have some. I don't want it forced on me in my speed.
I just meant worst case, someone gave you a bag of caffeine instead of speed. But, point taken. It could be a lot of caffeine if you were binging on it.
I'm with you though, I'd just rather have uncut. I was just wondering about all the concerns of caffeine.
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This is a request for BoyMaster and CapeCrusader. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
As a contingency back up plan. Will you please post or email me a tormail or other email address that is good for you. Per both of your public key emails are fictional and useless. Do not erase your current keys, as they are the only ones I will use to communicate with you.
Mine is CaffeineMe@tormail.net
I hope to do some more business soon.
Cheers,
caffeine
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Anyone getting deliveries of orders placed just before the blackout? I ordered small amounts from a few different vendors, beginning Monday prior to the shutdown. I made about 6 separate orders. A few based on forum talk from a lot of you guys. I thought for sure Tuesday (day after Veterans Day-no mail) I'd see something. Hoping for at least one delivery Wednesday morning (NYC).
Contingency plans sound like a good idea. Anyone got one??- jagfug@tormail - no pgp please.
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I'd just like to say that I'm not bitching about speed being cut with *something*. That's fine -- I mean I don't give a fuck if you want to sell me 10% amp and 90% lactose or something, if you tell me it's 10% amphetamine and cut the price proportionately I'll buy a goddamn kilo of it.
Also, caffeine and amphetamine are generally soluble in the same things, so it's very difficult to separate the two molecules. It's not like you can just do a dry acetone wash and have clean speed again. I know of no way, but I'm not a chemist, so I don't doubt there is one.
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I'd just like to say that I'm not bitching about speed being cut with *something*. That's fine -- I mean I don't give a fuck if you want to sell me 10% amp and 90% lactose or something, if you tell me it's 10% amphetamine and cut the price proportionately I'll buy a goddamn kilo of it.
Also, caffeine and amphetamine are generally soluble in the same things, so it's very difficult to separate the two molecules. It's not like you can just do a dry acetone wash and have clean speed again. I know of no way, but I'm not a chemist, so I don't doubt there is one.
Right yea I feel ya man lol it's like people in these threads talk like we can just pull over on the side of the goddam freeway and do a fucking acetone wash for God's sake
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LOGIN PAGE WORKING ! ! ! - For vendors only, for now !!! FYI!
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Right yea I feel ya man lol it's like people in these threads talk like we can just pull over on the side of the goddam freeway and do a fucking acetone wash for God's sake
What's stopping you? Washing speed is about as hard as brewing a pot of coffee.
Put filter on top of glass container, put speed in filter, pour solvent through filter a few times, put speed on flat glass surface, wait until solvent evaporates. Ta-da!
If you're picky you can repeat with a different solvent (that does not dissolve amphetamine sulphate) to get rid of adulterants that do not dissolve in whatever solvent you used the first time. Where I live both acetone and petroleum ether (not actually an 'ether') are available in supermarkets, so I tend to use those two.
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Xylene and VM&P Naphtha (stands for Varnishers, M-something, and Painter's) work very nicely for meth and pseudoephedrine when extracting or to clean & crystallize the meth freebase. Or is it toluene and not xylene... no, I think it was xylene that worked so well. Yeah. Mix them and heat (real carefully, don't get cavalier or you'll end up with a huge fireball and no smoking around them either) with pseudo, stir for 10-15 minutes, and... there was a third one. Oh, nobody cares anyway, whatever.
What I clicked "reply" to say is this: I don't know of any single solvent that amphetamine is soluble in but caffeine is not, or vice versa. So you can clean and purify all you want, you're going to end up with very clean amphetamine mixed with very clean caffeine. Also, acetone that you buy commercially has enough H2O to leech a saddeningly large amount of amphetamine off with it if you use it for washes. Look up drying acetone with baked magnesium sulfate, and you'll lose a bit less, but still enough to make you sad.
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Interesting reading through the last 150-200 posts, how come the purity of speed is so low? It's not a drug I'm particularly familiar with although the few times I've tried it (always just ingesting, rubbing on gums off mates at parties) I've enjoyed it.
Someone mentioned about 20 posts back that the quality of speed in Australia is a lot higher, is that right? Even still, I can't see this justifying the 10x price hike we cop in Oz as opposed to Europe, where Coke and MDMA are typically about 4-5x higher in price.
In any case cause it's so cheap and I've got some bitcoins to kill I'm going to get 2 grams of powerades sent out.
What exactly does the process of drying the speed involve? I'm obviously gonna do a google search but would like to see what the good folk here have to say as well.
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Citizen; as simple as leaving the little baggie open in a dry preferably warm (70+ f degrees) area. I left my gram open for an hour and dished a bit out to stand alone, which dried in minutes. Baggie was dry in about an hour. (left next to stereo between two CD cases with breathing room in between). Good luck! Go slow! It's decent shit!
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Can anyone provide any feedback with regard to quality of amp currently being supplied by local aussie vendors eg aussiepride
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/3e18c3e8ea/
1stopOz
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/4c042bbcfa
I can't seem to find anything definitive.
Alternatively, any suggestions for O/S vendors.
Thanks in advance,
mb
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I don't know of any single solvent that amphetamine is soluble in but caffeine is not, or vice versa.
Have you tried chloroform? It seems to have the right properties (dissolves caffeine but not amph sulphate).
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alcohol?! 1:515 vs 1:22 good enough.
www.quickmeme.com/meme/3rsha8/
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SR might be back, but CC isn't :(
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connecting to SR is still a pain in the ass :\
edit: have to correct myself - it's pretty fucking impossible to connect.
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yep, too bad :(
just want to login for checking status of my order, still waiting for products of dagoberto and proline, so sign of package. bm has to come back or cc, pleeeeeease :'( ;)
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Since it's pretty unsure when, or even if BM or CC will provide their excellent product again, I'm looking for an alternative.
So I hope you can help me and the others in same situation.
I consider to check the German-sellers, because it's a domestic order for me. Unless you tell me that another vendor has way better product.
Would you recommend rocketman's, powerade's or AH's amp?
Any idea on what isomer side their products are?
Thanks in advance!
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powerade is a new vendor who got a few of good reviews lately.
rocketman seems to be solid, only ships to germany, he has a thread with fairly good reviews (in deutsch)
jalapeno's stuff seems to be cut heavily with caffeine but is very cheap
dagoberto has good prices but slow packaging (still waiting), proline hasnt responded yet to any msg or email, maybe a scammer but its too soon to say right now.
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Just some words of advice for vendors like BM and CC, that seemingly rely on this community (and yes, for my own benefit):
You guys should think about handing out some contact info (to selected members or get the info from selected members), problems like this will happen again. More often. If it's really traffic related, then what will happen during Christmas time? Vendors can put as much care into their products as they want, it won't do much good if the customer base is gone.
Just sayin'...
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Just some words of advice for vendors like BM and CC, that seemingly rely on this community (and yes, for my own benefit):
You guys should think about handing out some contact info (to selected members or get the info from selected members), problems like this will happen again. More often. If it's really traffic related, then what will happen during Christmas time? Vendors can put as much care into their products as they want, it won't do much good if the customer base is gone.
Just sayin'...
Spoken like a man who does not have a fat BM stash to last until His kingdom cometh :)
But seriously, +1 on contact info. If you want to make it easy for yourselves, create a new PGP keypair with a proper e-mail address (tormail or similar) and then sign the new key with your old key. No trust issues, and instant e-mail info to everyone who has your PGP key.
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Hey
Don't worry. CC is still here :)
I will put up my public listing in the week of the 26th November. But i will do customs/stealth listings for some people who want 10 gram packs next week. Hopefully SR will be fully functional by then. Sorry about the long wait.
In addition i will be setting up a tormail address and a new pgp key as muslix and valentinesmith suggested as a backup in case SR blacks out again.
Take Care
CC
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Hey
Don't worry. CC is still here :)
I will put up my public listing in the week of the 26th November. But i will do customs/stealth listings for some people who want 10 gram packs next week. Hopefully SR will be fully functional by then. Sorry about the long wait.
In addition i will be setting up a tormail address and a new pgp key as muslix and valentinesmith suggested as a backup in case SR blacks out again.
Take Care
CC
Nice ;)
How pure is it that time ? Price table would be nice.
Does your package make it trough customs at the christmas time? (they have an eye on every package thougth.)
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Yesss CC :D
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Hey
Don't worry. CC is still here :)
I will put up my public listing in the week of the 26th November. But i will do customs/stealth listings for some people who want 10 gram packs next week. Hopefully SR will be fully functional by then. Sorry about the long wait.
In addition i will be setting up a tormail address and a new pgp key as muslix and valentinesmith suggested as a backup in case SR blacks out again.
Take Care
CC
Hey CC my man :) I'm abstaining and sourcing locally, washing that shit with acetone until you get back. 10g sounds spot on, considering the potency of your product obliterates the competition that degrade this fine chemical, long live CC
Godspeed to you sir (no pun) :)
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Holy Shit, CC back up in it? Looks like I'll have to go change my underpants. I guess I got a little too excited.
Looks Like Christmas is coming early!
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CC Back? Where? Who? Are you joking isn't? ;) Still no lists on him.
So the Powerade stuff worth to buy or not at the end? I mean it's not a problem if price raised for me, but the last review was that the user was able to sleep 3 hours after taking the last line..it's not inspiring me so much ;:D
I'd prefer to stick with J polish paste in that case, at it does its job even if it's not a very clean product, but seems not extremely cut with coffeine at least.
EDIT
Somebody tried the POLISH SPEEDWAY 0.3G ?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/fba91eab83
it's listed since long time, but never heard review on that. I'll give it a shot in case nobody knows.
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Looks like I am having a break :) December is closer than I thought. And December = insane delays in transit times. My BM-"stash" is locked down for now, I hope I am wrong but I don't expect a refill this year anymore. No offense to anyone, statistics told me that :P and I am guessing BM has some life as well. CC wont arrive before 1st week of December, if it comes in before Christmas traffic. Unfortunately I know xmas delays just too well. :-X Try to order your stuff now (besides speed obviously) to avoid pre-christmas traffic. You can thank me later.
meh. not amused by the lack of quality speed. CC has to save Christmas!
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Running a little low on BM and sourced locally. Big mistake :(
Trying Powerade, will report back.
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Also ordered some more Powerade. It kinda hurts though at the current price tag. Considering that 20-25% are just solvent that evaporates and from the rest 20-25% are hopefully amphetamine, you would be better off with CC. And even BM (at my quantities at least ;D)
But Powerade is available and the others are not. I just wish it was as good as I remember it :'( If speedie is still up to it, I'll get something to him for lab testing. Unless it turns out to be better than I thought, then I'll go test it myself.
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would love an info about the 10g packs from capecrusader - next week.
hook me up! ;)
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hi!
i'm going to make my first speed purchase, so i wanted to ask which vendor you could recommend. read a lot about capecrusader seems like he had nice stuff time ago ?! can anyone tell about the dutch vendors oldamsterdam or premiumdutch?? or what about fcuk reality - what he tells about his stuff sounds nice but seems like no one wants to tell about....
would be very pleased by your help!
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I'm also giving Powerade a shot. I've messaged him checking out his integrity, i'm almost sure he sells it as he gets it.
Oldamsterdams speed is the worst speed you'll ever get. take it from me, the guy is bent.
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I'm also giving Powerade a shot. I've messaged him checking out his integrity, i'm almost sure he sells it as he gets it.
Oldamsterdams speed is the worst speed you'll ever get. take it from me, the guy is bent.
Damn! Ordered 2g of his Speed to try it ... has good reviews and his speed was twice lab tested (first batch around 50% and second around 30 or something). If it has real 30-40% it is okay for this price as I don't think that at the moment vendors sell Speed with higher purity than this (CC and BM don't sell at the moment, but never tried their stuff as I'm relatively new to SR).
Just received 0,5g from Powerade, will try it in the coming week. At least he has reasonable prices and if it's about 20-30% pure that's okay.
Maybe CC will offer high quality speed soon, let's see. Not sure why there are so many high quality offers for MDMA but so few for good Speed. Why everybody is cutting it, don't understand it as there would be enough people here spending more money for better quality.
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But i will do customs/stealth listings for some people who want 10 gram packs next week.
I can has?
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I've tried the polish speedway 0.3. It's powdered sulphate, comes in vials (like single shots) - Quality - standard. Didn't detect anything nasty in it, although I had 3 different types of speed from 3 guys at that point, so take my testimony with a pinch of salt. I think its safe though (and the vials come in handy:)) Bonus.
As for Old Amsterdam, several users have reported savage comedowns from it. I personally had to go to the docs and get some meds. I suggest buying some xanax or valium, if you want to put the shit he sells inside you. Its not the potency thats the problem, it's being a nervous wreck afterwards. Several levels below feeling a bit depressed and drained... which doesn't even occur with the local speed I get.
I'm saving up for a lump of amphetamine the size of my head anyway, the grapevine has enlightened me to a possible import, saying no more but each of the guys that handle this, along the supply line, don't mess with it at all. I'll get it cheap enough (friend of the family type situation) and possibly set up a vendor account. Just got to wait until he gets back from where its sourced, could be weeks could be days.... So how does uncut almost dry paste sound to you guys?
I have personal issues at the moment, but thats all that could prevent me in the short term. Fuck these guys all about the £ching$. The real wealth comes from within. I'd rather be on cloud nine and skint, than rich and miserable pretending i'm not cos of all the money I have.
And kit needed:
The label printing, and vac sealing. This gear always absolutely stinks. It has to be double bagged. I live 5 minutes from the post office and could to 2 drops a day without breaking sweat.
I'll do some research, maybe somebody here knows of a cheap and effective way to get the vac sealing equipment?
NumNuts
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CC Back? Where? Who? Are you joking isn't? ;) Still no lists on him.
So the Powerade stuff worth to buy or not at the end? I mean it's not a problem if price raised for me, but the last review was that the user was able to sleep 3 hours after taking the last line..it's not inspiring me so much ;:D
I'd prefer to stick with J polish paste in that case, at it does its job even if it's not a very clean product, but seems not extremely cut with coffeine at least.
EDIT
Somebody tried the POLISH SPEEDWAY 0.3G ?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/fba91eab83
it's listed since long time, but never heard review on that. I'll give it a shot in case nobody knows.
Huh, isn;t polish speed way the guy who admitted it;s not actually amphetamine? i messaged and asked. or it was some other polish seller who put some shit in speed section
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Been researching the last few days on alternative stimulants due to the piss poor vendor situation.
The one that stuck out is the vastly under-rated/unknown 4-FA (4 flouroamphetamine) an analogue of you know what. A few vendors stock it on SR.
Its active at doses of 50mg - recomended dose is 100-120mgs. Have empathogenic qualities along with amphetamine like stimulation, and lasts 8 - 12 hours, depending on quality on synthesis
On the legal side, two weight lifting/ pre workout supplements:
Axon
Craze
None are cheap, but thats probably a good thing in my eyes.
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But i will do customs/stealth listings for some people who want 10 gram packs next week.
I can has?
http://i.qkme.me/3r5kpw.jpg ;D ;D gotta love grumpy cat! ;D Everyone will get some, as long as I get it first 8)
I've tried the polish speedway 0.3. It's powdered sulphate
yea, just NOT AMPHETAMINE sulphate. I hate to discourage people but for the sake of your buyers and the love of grumpy cat, please do not sell speed! Ever.
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so, has anyone received any samples from this vendor yet? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/867d33d2f6
he has some interesting listings... very tempted to place an order
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I'm getting some, expect earliest feedback on Wednesday.
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Somebody tried the POLISH SPEEDWAY 0.3G ?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/fba91eab83
it's listed since long time, but never heard review on that. I'll give it a shot in case nobody knows.
Does anybody know what the fuck this stuff actually is? Seller claims its a mix of random chems, even when I queried him about the mix, he completely ignores my questions about it. It gives me this really weird-ass high, maybe someone can help me out as to wtf this is. The powder is pure white, no smell, very bitter. It holds its shape if you squeeze it together, kind of like cornstarch. Tastes kind of like caffeine tablets, at first I thought maybe I was scammed and the shit was just anhydrous caffeine, but no.
Basically, effects kick in around 25-30 mins after insufflation and last for 3-4 hours.
First effect is your heart just goes apeshit. It beats unrealistically hard and variates pace often. Then you feel mildly alert, but not much. Very twitchy mentally, cant focus on work or movies or anything. Feels like an espresso, nothing special mentally. You sweat an insane amount, get this crazy dry throat, and all the muscles in your body shiver like crazy, in pulses. Cold fingers/toes, some vasoconstriction, twitches in vision, lots of teeth grinding, enlarged pupils.
Any ideas people? I just want to know what this is so I can add it to my "done" list. I know most of the effects are generic "stimulant", but there is very very little head high. No euphoria, no focus. 90% of the high is body effects, basically heart gone wild, and fuckloads of shivers/tremors. Also after the comedown there are very mild breathing issues, and limbs are quite clammy.
Thinking this could be 'drone or something. No fish smell though, doesn't smell like anything It's really strange guys.
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so, has anyone received any samples from this vendor yet? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/867d33d2f6
he has some interesting listings... very tempted to place an order
Maybe looks promising and tempting I agree (though the price is too high imo) but it all depends on if iisthisisi is a reliable vendor and that counts for all vendors here.
I've been hanging around on SR and the speed section for almost a year now and A LOT of promising stuff have passed by which turned out to be not so promising after all.
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I'm getting some, expect earliest feedback on Wednesday.
what exactly are you getting? I'm particularly interested in the dex and dl-amphetamine
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Funny thing is that speed isn't supposed to smell. The freebase smells like fish, yes. But once one adds the sulfuric acid. The freebase is converted to it's salt. Since salts have a very low vapor pressure, it's very unlikely to have a smell. I think this is one of the biggest misconceptions around. I've met a lot of people whom's speed smelled like a sewer. They say it's the best thing in the world because it smells like hell.
Most times the speed smells a bit fishy, but this is mostly due to some freebase hasn't reacted with the acid. This is kinda normal. But dealer sometimes spray P2P in methanol over their speed to give it one hell of a smell.
I've had 2 kinds of speed. First one was made by the Leuckart method. This gives a lot of byproducts. Smells a bit like fish after acidification.
Second one is the same way meth is made, the HI/P reduction of norephedrine. This gives virtually no byproducts and has no smell of whatsoever.
And there is the misconception of keeping speed in the fridge. I never keep my speed in the fridge and it hasn't lost any activity.. Even after a year.
I think the reason most dealer advise this is because of the low temperature the smell will evaporate more slowly and thus keeping the speed "good". Because if the speed has no smell, it's rubbish and people will have to buy new one.
Getting back to the salt story, if it would evaporate, wouldn't it be all gone after a month? Yes, the P2P will evaporate, but the amph salt will still be there.
Somebody tried the POLISH SPEEDWAY 0.3G ?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/fba91eab83
it's listed since long time, but never heard review on that. I'll give it a shot in case nobody knows.
Does anybody know what the fuck this stuff actually is? Seller claims its a mix of random chems, even when I queried him about the mix, he completely ignores my questions about it. It gives me this really weird-ass high, maybe someone can help me out as to wtf this is. The powder is pure white, no smell, very bitter. It holds its shape if you squeeze it together, kind of like cornstarch. Tastes kind of like caffeine tablets, at first I thought maybe I was scammed and the shit was just anhydrous caffeine, but no.
Basically, effects kick in around 25-30 mins after insufflation and last for 3-4 hours.
First effect is your heart just goes apeshit. It beats unrealistically hard and variates pace often. Then you feel mildly alert, but not much. Very twitchy mentally, cant focus on work or movies or anything. Feels like an espresso, nothing special mentally. You sweat an insane amount, get this crazy dry throat, and all the muscles in your body shiver like crazy, in pulses. Cold fingers/toes, some vasoconstriction, twitches in vision, lots of teeth grinding, enlarged pupils.
Any ideas people? I just want to know what this is so I can add it to my "done" list. I know most of the effects are generic "stimulant", but there is very very little head high. No euphoria, no focus. 90% of the high is body effects, basically heart gone wild, and fuckloads of shivers/tremors. Also after the comedown there are very mild breathing issues, and limbs are quite clammy.
Thinking this could be 'drone or something. No fish smell though, doesn't smell like anything It's really strange guys.
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Funny thing is that speed isn't supposed to smell. The freebase smells like fish, yes. But once one adds the sulfuric acid. The freebase is converted to it's salt. Since salts have a very low vapor pressure, it's very unlikely to have a smell. I think this is one of the biggest misconceptions around. I've met a lot of people whom's speed smelled like a sewer. They say it's the best thing in the world because it smells like hell.
Most times the speed smells a bit fishy, but this is mostly due to some freebase hasn't reacted with the acid. This is kinda normal. But dealer sometimes spray P2P in methanol over their speed to give it one hell of a smell.
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And there is the misconception of keeping speed in the fridge. I never keep my speed in the fridge and it hasn't lost any activity.. Even after a year.
I think the reason most dealer advise this is because of the low temperature the smell will evaporate more slowly and thus keeping the speed "good". Because if the speed has no smell, it's rubbish and people will have to buy new one.
I think in general it's more a weight issue, a lot of vendors also buy the speed in paste form and keeping it in the fridge/freezer prevents it from becoming too dry. If they let the paste dry first into a powder then it will loose weight and weight=money.
You're right about the smell, sadly in the feedback buyers still keep writing things like "it smells like good stuff" etc. though what they actually smell are probably solvents and cutting agents most of the time.
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Yeah, that's also true. That's why it is better to sell dry powder. Much better for the customer.
Unfortunately almost everyone sells their speed as paste.
I do not understand why everyone cuts their speed with caffeine. It has absolutely no recreational value in my opinion. It only makes me very nervous :P And it also worsens the hangover..
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Been researching the last few days on alternative stimulants due to the piss poor vendor situation.
The one that stuck out is the vastly under-rated/unknown 4-FA (4 flouroamphetamine) an analogue of you know what. A few vendors stock it on SR.
Its active at doses of 50mg - recomended dose is 100-120mgs. Have empathogenic qualities along with amphetamine like stimulation, and lasts 8 - 12 hours, depending on quality on synthesis
On the legal side, two weight lifting/ pre workout supplements:
Axon
Craze
None are cheap, but thats probably a good thing in my eyes.
I have some experience with halogenated amphetamines, especially 2-FA. I found it to be particularly well suited for studying but absolutely lousy as a recreational drug. Since then I've come to the conclusion that I rather abstain from using stimulants than gamble further with analogues of relatively unknown toxicity. It's hard enough to rationally justify the long term health risks of doing good old well-researched dl-amphetamine.
Craze contains DMAA, which is a decent ephedrine replacement; Axon I don't know anything about. If you want to try DMAA you can get it for cheap on ebay, no need to pay insane PWO prices.
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I have experience with 4-FA and must say this is a lovely compound. Beginning is a bit euphoric and a couple of hours in the experience there is a more speedy feeling.
I never took more then 125 mg. Also took a line of it once, all the horrorstories about immense pain are true :P
DMAA I find just a little stimulating. It focuses me more, no real speedy feeling. Afterwards there is a small crash.
Last year the FDA no longer allowed it in sportsupplements because of the possible side effects. But don't we all know this story with Ephedra. Those 300 kg women taking it to lose weight. Taking 10 pills at the time and die from a stroke ???
Nevertheless, I think 4-FA is combination between a low dosage of MDMA followed by some speed.
I personally don't think it is a great substitute for both of them.
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Well I ordered the 95% from Proline, but sat in processing for over a week.....at least 4 or so days after SR came back online. No communication, although I didn't bother. That product still has zero reviews. I wonder if he saw my stats and new I wouldn't FE?
I canceled. It was a bit of a stretch for me to order from a noob for speed and the long delay is not worth my time. Hopefully someone domestic with them can have some better luck and give a proper review.
Sorry ladies and gents :(
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I was hoping to get a bit more feedback for LetGoOfYourEgo's speed.
Does anyone have any experience? His price is a bit high ($30 USD/gram) but his quality appears to be pretty good as well (advertises +/- 30%). Not much activity on his 1gram listing, though. I was never looking for speed in the "BM and CC days" so could anyone tell me how much some their speed was going for (1-5gram range)? I'm wondering if I should get in line for CC's new batch or go with what's cheap and hot (I'm looking at you powerade).
Thanks.
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Well I ordered the 95% from Proline, but sat in processing for over a week.....at least 4 or so days after SR came back online. No communication, although I didn't bother. That product still has zero reviews. I wonder if he saw my stats and new I wouldn't FE?
I canceled. It was a bit of a stretch for me to order from a noob for speed and the long delay is not worth my time. Hopefully someone domestic with them can have some better luck and give a proper review.
Sorry ladies and gents :(
Same situation here. Canceled my order with pl because of the exact same reasons. Now I'm feared because I gave my address out 4free. Fuck it.
Expecting orders from dago and powerade in 1-2 days will update. Because sr was done and I was too long unsure where to buys since bm and cc were gone I was 'forced' to buy some C in my local area... and this remembered why I like good Amphetamine waaay more than C. :D Can't wait for the speed, although honestly I only trust bm and cc quality-wise.
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@muslix, seriously now, you seem rather passionate about me not selling speed... I'm curious, whats motivating you to oppose this pursuit??
Or is it reverse psychology?? wink ;)
I ordered the Craze, but I found it to be a bit tame and overdosing results in vomitting, a lot.
also ordered the Axon, which sounds like cocaine if you read about its mechanism of action, only longer lasting
Theres another one, which, strength wise, is probably the most potent of these stimulant supplements. at £47.95 its the most expensive. Phenylpiracetam, a variant on the original nootropic, with some seriously amped up effects. What put me off this, is the rapid onset of tolerance, 5 days only until the effects fade out to zero. It may be one for the emergency cupboard... as it sounds useful.
Personally, i'm in the middle of transforming my self.
I'm going to have a large stash of very high quality speed on hand (all going well), and sharing it out, setting the standard in this area of the market on SR, somewhat financing my usage seems like a very good idea, killing (or seriously injuring) several birds in the process...
I have ordered some 4FA I will see how it compares to good speed. Had my eyes on this compound for a while, it sounds all right!
Also @ CapeCrusader, If theres any room left on your list for 10g's samples/stealth, I am interested! been a fan of your work for a short while now and would love to assist you with your work, with feedback or whatever you need :)
I didn't realise that speedway stuff was shite. my apologies for the worthless review... thanks muslix for the heads up. I can't figure you out, are you my guardian angel? haha
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Maybe I missed something, but all I read from BM re: dextro was something along the lines of "there will be a surprise for all of you who like the dextro isomer". I asked him for details in a PM a while ago but he hasn't answered yet.
If selling dextro is not economically viable I'd happily buy a mix of 50% dextro and 50% regular racemic amphetamine. There's a bunch of studies saying that such a mix is superior to dextro alone at least for treating ADD/ADHD (faster onset, longer lasting effect).
For the most part you are correct.. You see if people actually understood the chemistry behind it they would understand.. Performing a chiral resolution to seperate the enantiomers is no walk in the park.. The yield will not be 100%.. To obtain the dextro enantiomer with a very high optical purity you will lose quite a bit of your original racemic mixture.. I have experimented and have lost an average of about 20%-40%.. So we could assume that the price for 1 gram of dextro powder will be more than twice as much as a gram of racemic.. I would estimate a ball park figure of about at least US$80+.. Now the question i pose is.. If you could get a gram of dextro for about $80 or 4 grams of racemic for the same amount what would you choose? You will be getting twice the amount of dextro when choosing the racemic for the same amount of money.. I would like to hear peoples thoughts on this matter..
Thanks
CC
For people spending in bulk, at best, $.367/mg of Adderall or $.50/g of Dexedrine, $80 for a gram of mostly pure d-amp is a huge savings and very desirable. I would certainly pay more than that. If it is cheaper to make it more like adderall, even better for some (I have no experience with pure Dex, and might not understand the above properly, but hope you get what I'm saying -- I shy away from anything called "speed" because it's just too much of an unknown for me, a crapshoot -- but give me pure lab-verified dex and I will give up buying pills and will spend a fraction of the savings on a nice scale :) ). I would guess that the market for the prescription versions is larger than the market for "plain old speed", but I don't really know..
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btw, our speed is tested for be over 70% pure last batch was at 72%....
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just a quick followup -- is there a FAQ on speed that someone could point me to, within the context of drugs like Adderall? I'm confused.. I know that amphetamine is a chiral molecule and the components are d-amp and l-amp, but can someone break down what is in adderall for me:
" 1/4 dextro-amphetamine saccharate
1/4 dextro-amphetamine sulfate
1/4 (racemic amphetamine) aspartate monohydrate
1/4 (racemic amphetamine) sulfate
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OK, so if the vendors here are selling amphetamine sulphate, does that mean they are selling the racemic amphetamine sulfate? And what do these other words mean, "saccharate", "aspartate monohydrate", and what are the ramifications of their inclusion in this formula? Perhaps I'm not searching in the right place, but I am coming up short on this kind of information. I just want to know if what I order will be comparable to that with which I am familiar (adderall), and if so, how comparable? Thanks, and I apologize if this is often asked..
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Oops, I created a vendor thread for DoctorDex, but maybe should have just asked here -- Has anyone purchased his Adderall before? He has 5 feedback entries, so am wary of using FE on a large custom order. Thank you!
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Does anyone know if CC is gonna be up be the end of the month? For some reason I'm blocked to sending him a pm on here (perhaps cause I'm a new member on here?) His local to me hence I'd prefer a package being sent domestically.
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btw, our speed is tested for be over 70% pure last batch was at 72%....
70% what? amphetamine sulphate per weight? amphetamine freebase equivalent? caffeine?
no offense, but anecdotal evidence suggests nothing even close to that.
you give a 100% money-back guarantee? if not at least 70% (+/- some% measuring error)?
I'm getting some, expect earliest feedback on Wednesday.
I'm particularly interested in the dex and dl-amphetamine
So am I.
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just a quick followup -- is there a FAQ on speed that someone could point me to, within the context of drugs like Adderall? I'm confused.. I know that amphetamine is a chiral molecule and the components are d-amp and l-amp, but can someone break down what is in adderall for me:
" 1/4 dextro-amphetamine saccharate
1/4 dextro-amphetamine sulfate
1/4 (racemic amphetamine) aspartate monohydrate
1/4 (racemic amphetamine) sulfate
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OK, so if the vendors here are selling amphetamine sulphate, does that mean they are selling the racemic amphetamine sulfate? And what do these other words mean, "saccharate", "aspartate monohydrate", and what are the ramifications of their inclusion in this formula? Perhaps I'm not searching in the right place, but I am coming up short on this kind of information. I just want to know if what I order will be comparable to that with which I am familiar (adderall), and if so, how comparable? Thanks, and I apologize if this is often asked..
If someone's selling speed (in EU) or amphetamine sulphate it's 99.9% of the time racemic amphetamine sulphate. Everything else will be mentioned explicitly as it would result in a price increase.
Amphetamine in it's pure form is a liquid base (often referred to as freebase), that doesn't like air and has a distinct Amine-smell (Ammonia-ish to fishy). To get it in to a form suitable for selling (ie a powder) you need to neutralize the base with an acid to form the salt of the specific acid. If you neutralize freebase with sulfuric acid (H2SO4) you will get the amphetamine *sulphate*, if you use hydrochloric acid you will get amphetamine HCl, if you use phosphoric acid (H3PO4) you'll end up with amphetamine phosphate, and so on..
So the words behind amphetamine specify the salt of an acid that was used to neutralize the freebase and put it in powder form. Depending on the salt it's properties can vary a little, it might get absorbed quicker through the stomach, salt X might bind more amphetamine freebase than salt Y, but the most likely reason those salts were chosen for adderall are patents.
Now Adderall is 75% Dextro-amphetamine, racemic sulphate is 50% dextro, dextro amph is 100% ofc. No one can judge for you what will be closest to your experience. And no one can tell you exactly how the salts used in adderall change the overall effects of amphetamine. Best thing is to try yourself.
edit: personally I believe that the d/l enantiomer ratio will change the experience a lot more than a change of salt. As the most likely effect of a different salt will be slight changes in side-effects and the time of onset, i.e. how hard it hits you.
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thanks for the explanation. I see how they come to the 75% number now.. Well, it would be nice to see some pure d-amp so that I could play around with the ratios myself.
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thanks for the explanation. I see how they come to the 75% number now.. Well, it would be nice to see some pure d-amp so that I could play around with the ratios myself.
iisthisisi offers some D-Amp with high purity, I also think about trying it. L-Amp is reported to be rather useless compared to D-Amp.
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thanks for the explanation. I see how they come to the 75% number now.. Well, it would be nice to see some pure d-amp so that I could play around with the ratios myself.
Word, to continue on Adderall I never have used the pills meself and it's a bit pricey compared to average speed powder/paste but I'm curious how potent a for example a 30mg Adderall pill is in real life and how long it lasts. It's not so well known in the eu as in the us of course. As far as I know it isn't being prescribed in my country for adhd, they generally use Ritalin or maybe also Strattera/Concerta not sure about that.
I've read that some people like the more euphoric feeling of d-amph though if you're used to racemic dl amph I can imagine you could or will miss the stimulating adrenalin aka 'fight or flight' reaction of the l-enantiomer part. If people have interesting experiences with different dl ratio's or salts then this is also the topic to share it...
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thanks for the explanation. I see how they come to the 75% number now.. Well, it would be nice to see some pure d-amp so that I could play around with the ratios myself.
Word, to continue on Adderall I never have used the pills meself and it's a bit pricey compared to average speed powder/paste but I'm curious how potent a for example a 30mg Adderall pill is in real life and how long it lasts. It's not so well known in the eu as in the us of course. As far as I know it isn't being prescribed in my country for adhd, they generally use Ritalin or maybe also Strattera/Concerta not sure about that.
I've read that some people like the more euphoric feeling of d-amph though if you're used to racemic dl amph I can imagine you could or will miss the stimulating adrenalin aka 'fight or flight' reaction of the l-enantiomer part. If people have interesting experiences with different dl ratio's or salts then this is also the topic to share it...
You can seriously skip almost this entire post if you don't find my drivel as amusing as it is for me to subject you to it. Honest. Nothing important, just skip half way down and smile and nod and let me ramble like I do.
The problem is that we can never be certain what mix of chemicals we're taking, so every report you hear will be largely anecdotal and almost certainly at least partially misleading and mistaken. I'm too afraid to check, but I really think half of my posts are just amphetamine-fueled ramblings about -- well, how much I adore the molecule, basically. You guys have to forgive me, this place is my outlet -- I've got years of pent up amphetamine dependence I can't breath a word of to anyone in my life, you see. So sure, why not -- what's one more post...
Pharmaceutical amphetamines, both adderall and dexedrine, enhance my capacity to think and focus and direct my attention where I choose much better than any alternative I've ever found. Ever. Really clean meth works almost as well if I swallow it, but it's just not the same. Adderall in particular I'll spend 48-56 hours straight just banging away at the same task, and love every second of it. And make enormous progress, too. I become so powerfully focused on whatever's fascinating to me at the time that I can't even stop to go to the bathroom once I'm 6-10+ hours into a run. I sometimes sit there until my bladder feels as though it's going to burst, and even then I only do something about it because I don't want it backing up into my kidneys or something and I know that I'll feel better once I get it out of the way.
BM's speed definitely gets me "tweaked," but it doesn't take me to the place I love amphetamines for bringing me to. Palms get sweaty, I feel particularly jittery and confused, my capacity to deal with unexpected problems is noticeably diminished (I've had emergencies break out on BM's speed and I was totally incompetent instead of cool, rational, and all business -- was kind of humiliating actually). Doesn't enhance me. Does feel good if I'm without anything else though. And l-amp is a very fragile thing... it very easily goes from a great "amped," feeling to just being rather unpleasant and bothersome. Also, BM's speed I took way too much of the first time. Didn't feel good. I've never taken too much adderall. I mean that. I have never found a dose of adderall that was just too strong or too much. Though I generally enforce dosage rules on myself. I'll redose 15 minutes later sometimes, but never more than 60-80mg at a time. For whatever reason, I'm unable to control myself if I take more than that at once. I've gone through a bottle of 120 20mg instant release adderall in 30 hours. Only once, but once was enough to teach me I lose my grip if I take too much at once.
I should point out that too much adderall and I'm totally twaked. I mean I'll end up fucking with a pencil for two straight hours, which doesn't do much good, sure -- but god damn, it just... I don't know man, it had to be done. It was a moral imperative, I tell you. And I was the one that had to do it, that's all there was to it! ::)
Meth can take me to the place I love sometimes. As in help me think so well I forget everything else. Adderall basically always does. If CC's speed is a suitable replacement for that, I will make him a slightly wealthy man and be destitute. And I will love him for giving me the chance to do it :) I will also never stop learning for more than the 74.9 minute naps my body forces me to take with my face buried in some textbook. During which I shall continue to absorb ideas via the delusion of osmosis, naturally. And though I may die younger than I otherwise would, I shall die overflowing with knowledge and understanding and the concepts of such beautiful, beautiful things -- and it shall be good.
... yep. Just as I thought. Yet another pointless collection of words. Jesus I'm predictable sometimes.
So, let the amphetamine FAQ commence...!!
The facts you wanted but that I failed to provide until now: 30mg of adderall will likely be noticeably more potent than 30mg of speed or meth that's been *accurately* measured (big catch there). It's much cleaner. I don't know how else to describe it. It enhances, instead of confuses. Usually. Not always.
Adderall and dexedrine do not last as long as meth. Same basic duration as speed, give or take. Meth does not last as much longer as people seem to think though. Meth, for me, lasts 1-3 hours longer than amphetamine. It's completely dependent on dosage though. Like getting blackout drunk, then waking up still kind of drunk the next day. Your body takes time to clean these poisons away. More you take, longer it lasts. I sometimes stop and let myself "crash" (though I don't really crash anymore, for some reason), pass out 6-12 hours later, wake up 8-12 hours after that and can still feel the amphetamine molecules doing their magic half of that day.
As for a crash course to chemistry and amphetamines specifically... it's so much simpler than it's being made to sound. Sulfate, hydrochloride, etc. are *nothing* but a well-bonding little base "salt" (which are themselves just another molecule, essentially) that the amphetamine molecule is latched on to and shares a molecular bond with. Amphetamine freebase is almost totally destroyed by your digestive defenses before being absorbed, but when coupled to a salt, it can get through quite nicely. Hydrochloride can be smoked, snorted, shot, whatever you want. Sulfate can be snorted or swallowed, and I suppose shot. Smoke it and you'll destroy the amphetamine before you get more than a fraction of it in your blood though, so don't bother trying to.
Racemic isn't 50/50, it's just a mix of the dextro- and levo- isomers as far as I know. Your right hand and left hand are like the levo- and dextro- isomers of amphetamine. Almost identical, but you can't put your right hand in your left glove very well. So it is with amphetamine and your physiology. They're literally mirror images of each other on a molecular scale.
Dextroamphetamine is the dextro- isomer of the amphetamine molecule. Same thing, two different ways of putting it. Dextromethamphetamine is the methylated dextro- isomer of the amphetamine molecule. Don't worry about methylated. It just changes it slightly. Like ephedrine and pseudoephedrine, very similar but a small structural change can mean a huge biological difference when it comes to molecules. For methamphetamine vs. amphetamine, it feels a bit different but it's the same basic thing.
What one prefers is purely a matter of taste, but generally speaking, most prefer the dextro. Many like racemic mixtures. However, levomethamphetamine (the methylated levo- isomer of the amphetamine molecule) does very little. I mean it's very, very weak. It's the ingredient in vicks nasal inhalers. For real, straight up levo- methamphetamine. That's how useless it is. Levoamphetamine, the non-methylated form, is more active and has a definite effect on people. Just FYI.
It really is pretty simple once you get past the terminology, but when you know as much as some of these guys do, it's really hard to separate the useful information from the overly-confusing information, ya know. I do not have that problem in chemistry. My chemistry knowledge is a pathetic joke. I studied physics, not chemistry -- which I later learned was to be one of the great ironies of my life, heh.
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And though I may die younger than I otherwise would, I shall die overflowing with knowledge and understanding and the concepts of such beautiful, beautiful things -- and it shall be good.
What a beautiful quote man. 8)
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thanks for the explanation. I see how they come to the 75% number now.. Well, it would be nice to see some pure d-amp so that I could play around with the ratios myself.
Word, to continue on Adderall I never have used the pills meself and it's a bit pricey compared to average speed powder/paste but I'm curious how potent a for example a 30mg Adderall pill is in real life and how long it lasts. It's not so well known in the eu as in the us of course. As far as I know it isn't being prescribed in my country for adhd, they generally use Ritalin or maybe also Strattera/Concerta not sure about that.
I've read that some people like the more euphoric feeling of d-amph though if you're used to racemic dl amph I can imagine you could or will miss the stimulating adrenalin aka 'fight or flight' reaction of the l-enantiomer part. If people have interesting experiences with different dl ratio's or salts then this is also the topic to share it...
You can seriously skip almost this entire post if you don't find my drivel as amusing as it is for me to subject you to it. Honest. Nothing important, just skip half way down and smile and nod and let me ramble like I do.
The problem is that we can never be certain what mix of chemicals we're taking, so every report you hear will be largely anecdotal and almost certainly at least partially misleading and mistaken. I'm too afraid to check, but I really think half of my posts are just amphetamine-fueled ramblings about -- well, how much I adore the molecule, basically. You guys have to forgive me, this place is my outlet -- I've got years of pent up amphetamine dependence I can't breath a word of to anyone in my life, you see. So sure, why not -- what's one more post...
Pharmaceutical amphetamines, both adderall and dexedrine, enhance my capacity to think and focus and direct my attention where I choose much better than any alternative I've ever found. Ever. Really clean meth works almost as well if I swallow it, but it's just not the same. Adderall in particular I'll spend 48-56 hours straight just banging away at the same task, and love every second of it. And make enormous progress, too. I become so powerfully focused on whatever's fascinating to me at the time that I can't even stop to go to the bathroom once I'm 6-10+ hours into a run. I sometimes sit there until my bladder feels as though it's going to burst, and even then I only do something about it because I don't want it backing up into my kidneys or something and I know that I'll feel better once I get it out of the way.
BM's speed definitely gets me "tweaked," but it doesn't take me to the place I love amphetamines for bringing me to. Palms get sweaty, I feel particularly jittery and confused, my capacity to deal with unexpected problems is noticeably diminished (I've had emergencies break out on BM's speed and I was totally incompetent instead of cool, rational, and all business -- was kind of humiliating actually). Doesn't enhance me. Does feel good if I'm without anything else though. And l-amp is a very fragile thing... it very easily goes from a great "amped," feeling to just being rather unpleasant and bothersome. Also, BM's speed I took way too much of the first time. Didn't feel good. I've never taken too much adderall. I mean that. I have never found a dose of adderall that was just too strong or too much. Though I generally enforce dosage rules on myself. I'll redose 15 minutes later sometimes, but never more than 60-80mg at a time. For whatever reason, I'm unable to control myself if I take more than that at once. I've gone through a bottle of 120 20mg instant release adderall in 30 hours. Only once, but once was enough to teach me I lose my grip if I take too much at once.
I should point out that too much adderall and I'm totally twaked. I mean I'll end up fucking with a pencil for two straight hours, which doesn't do much good, sure -- but god damn, it just... I don't know man, it had to be done. It was a moral imperative, I tell you. And I was the one that had to do it, that's all there was to it! ::)
Meth can take me to the place I love sometimes. As in help me think so well I forget everything else. Adderall basically always does. If CC's speed is a suitable replacement for that, I will make him a slightly wealthy man and be destitute. And I will love him for giving me the chance to do it :) I will also never stop learning for more than the 74.9 minute naps my body forces me to take with my face buried in some textbook. During which I shall continue to absorb ideas via the delusion of osmosis, naturally. And though I may die younger than I otherwise would, I shall die overflowing with knowledge and understanding and the concepts of such beautiful, beautiful things -- and it shall be good.
... yep. Just as I thought. Yet another pointless collection of words. Jesus I'm predictable sometimes.
So, let the amphetamine FAQ commence...!!
The facts you wanted but that I failed to provide until now: 30mg of adderall will likely be noticeably more potent than 30mg of speed or meth that's been *accurately* measured (big catch there). It's much cleaner. I don't know how else to describe it. It enhances, instead of confuses. Usually. Not always.
Adderall and dexedrine do not last as long as meth. Same basic duration as speed, give or take. Meth does not last as much longer as people seem to think though. Meth, for me, lasts 1-3 hours longer than amphetamine. It's completely dependent on dosage though. Like getting blackout drunk, then waking up still kind of drunk the next day. Your body takes time to clean these poisons away. More you take, longer it lasts. I sometimes stop and let myself "crash" (though I don't really crash anymore, for some reason), pass out 6-12 hours later, wake up 8-12 hours after that and can still feel the amphetamine molecules doing their magic half of that day.
As for a crash course to chemistry and amphetamines specifically... it's so much simpler than it's being made to sound. Sulfate, hydrochloride, etc. are *nothing* but a well-bonding little base "salt" (which are themselves just another molecule, essentially) that the amphetamine molecule is latched on to and shares a molecular bond with. Amphetamine freebase is almost totally destroyed by your digestive defenses before being absorbed, but when coupled to a salt, it can get through quite nicely. Hydrochloride can be smoked, snorted, shot, whatever you want. Sulfate can be snorted or swallowed, and I suppose shot. Smoke it and you'll destroy the amphetamine before you get more than a fraction of it in your blood though, so don't bother trying to.
Racemic isn't 50/50, it's just a mix of the dextro- and levo- isomers as far as I know. Your right hand and left hand are like the levo- and dextro- isomers of amphetamine. Almost identical, but you can't put your right hand in your left glove very well. So it is with amphetamine and your physiology. They're literally mirror images of each other on a molecular scale.
Dextroamphetamine is the dextro- isomer of the amphetamine molecule. Same thing, two different ways of putting it. Dextromethamphetamine is the methylated dextro- isomer of the amphetamine molecule. Don't worry about methylated. It just changes it slightly. Like ephedrine and pseudoephedrine, very similar but a small structural change can mean a huge biological difference when it comes to molecules. For methamphetamine vs. amphetamine, it feels a bit different but it's the same basic thing.
What one prefers is purely a matter of taste, but generally speaking, most prefer the dextro. Many like racemic mixtures. However, levomethamphetamine (the methylated levo- isomer of the amphetamine molecule) does very little. I mean it's very, very weak. It's the ingredient in vicks nasal inhalers. For real, straight up levo- methamphetamine. That's how useless it is. Levoamphetamine, the non-methylated form, is more active and has a definite effect on people. Just FYI.
It really is pretty simple once you get past the terminology, but when you know as much as some of these guys do, it's really hard to separate the useful information from the overly-confusing information, ya know. I do not have that problem in chemistry. My chemistry knowledge is a pathetic joke. I studied physics, not chemistry -- which I later learned was to be one of the great ironies of my life, heh.
Nice post SS ;) ;)
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The problem is that we can never be certain what mix of chemicals we're taking.
Racemic isn't 50/50.
It really is pretty simple once you get past the terminology, but when you know as much as some of these guys do, it's really hard to separate the useful information from the overly-confusing information, ya know. I do not have that problem in chemistry. My chemistry knowledge is a pathetic joke. I studied physics, not chemistry -- which I later learned was to be one of the great ironies of my life, heh.
Actually, yes we can!
Racemic - pointing out the one thing that hurt the most (out of many, sorry dude):
> A racemic mixture is denoted by the prefix (±)- or dl- (for sugars the prefix dl- may be used), indicating an equal (1:1) mixture of dextro and levo isomers. [wiki fucking pedia]
Also calling BS on you studied physics, watching big bang theory doesn't count. You wouldn't get past the first semester if you were that sloppy with definitions and syntax.
I agree for the most part on the adderall comparison, but you also mix up meth and amph as if it's the same thing. Might be to you, for me it's galaxies apart. I don't even particularly enjoy being on meth.
Thanks for repeating all the facts on here and adding a sentence regarding the question being answered.
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maybe a better question would be, does the process of creating amphetamines always result in a racemic mixture (plus the unconverted freebase and solvents, depending on how far you are along) -- or is it possible for one to be more than the other? Thanks for the replies
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freaks, guys and girls - here I got an advice for you, based on own experience:
Mr. Dagobert is selling quite an awsome kind od amph,
as I wanted 2 give his stuff a try I´m really pleased and even a little bit surprised.
ok, delivery-time could be hardly improved, but the quality is the main-point, which I try 2 describe here 4 U:
it´s not powder, and there are no rocks in it, as his sold substance is pure base, really fresh and strong smelling,
the gear itself is very creamy, nearly wet, and you have to dry it.
but when it came to a first try I, I realized immediately that it´s such an high and really (nearly) pure quality, damn.
a little bit expensive, but I enjoy such high-graded qualities very much.
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This meth and amphetamine isomer explanation has been discussed countless times in this thread...lets see how many times we can beat a dead horse
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WTF.Finally back after days/months deprived of BTC's to find everything's gone to shit.Any decent amp around...?
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@Muslix, im curious (again) what would have you strongly oppose me distributing speed on an otherwise flat/unimpressive freetrade market like SR?
@SS quality ramblings! nice one
iisthisisis - is he selling? if so apparently good shit. dextro :)
dagobert - written by dagobert himself, joke.... there may be some authenticity to it. High grade, with a price that matches
powerade?? competitive listings, prophessed genuine dude, accurate potency/descriptions.... nothing added (by him, possibly)
we're all waiting for snail mail to bring us stuff....
Anybody got theirs?
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maybe a better question would be, does the process of creating amphetamines always result in a racemic mixture (plus the unconverted freebase and solvents, depending on how far you are along) -- or is it possible for one to be more than the other? Thanks for the replies
This depends on the precursor and the route of synthesis being used. There's at least 2 scientific papers looking at the isomer-distribution of illicit samples. Some methods almost inevitably result in a (almost) racemic mixture (this is mentioned on rhodium as well). So yes, it is possible. The higher the purity though, the less likely it becomes. 100% (dl-)amphetamine is always perfectly racemic, because amph is a racemic compound.
WTF.Finally back after days/months deprived of BTC's to find everything's gone to shit.Any decent amp around...?
For you... no :P iisthisisi maybe, should have my samples by tomorrow, hopefully. will report asap. CC wanted to start handing out speed to me (or everyone?) this week, we'll see. BM is AWOL.
MrRocketDE now sends EU-wide, right in time for xmas, what a surprise!
@NumNuts: I just don't like vendors who don't know shit about their products, we need less of those, not more.
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Haven't checked SR for a bit because I've been busy with.. who knows what.
What the hell happened, where is the speed? i see nothing just bunch of shit mephedrone. hardly any listings :(
edit, nm. idiot self had domestic only checked.
freaks, guys and girls - here I got an advice for you, based on own experience:
Mr. Dagobert is selling quite an awsome kind od amph,
as I wanted 2 give his stuff a try I´m really pleased and even a little bit surprised.
ok, delivery-time could be hardly improved, but the quality is the main-point, which I try 2 describe here 4 U:
it´s not powder, and there are no rocks in it, as his sold substance is pure base, really fresh and strong smelling,
the gear itself is very creamy, nearly wet, and you have to dry it.
but when it came to a first try I, I realized immediately that it´s such an high and really (nearly) pure quality, damn.
a little bit expensive, but I enjoy such high-graded qualities very much.
"wet" .. ."pure base"... PURE? strong smelling? what?
pure fkn amph shouldnt be strong smelling and wet of fkn solvents.
I've never had high grade quality amphetamine on here that was wet. all the wet stuff I received was caffeinated shit that lost 50% of it's weight when dried.. in fact it was entirely unsnortable too. If I got effects they would last maybe 2 hours and then hard hitting terrible crash (prob from caffeine or just bad synth).
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freaks, guys and girls - here I got an advice for you, based on own experience:
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it´s not powder, and there are no rocks in it, as his sold substance is pure base, really fresh and strong smelling,
the gear itself is very creamy, nearly wet, and you have to dry it.
but when it came to a first try I, I realized immediately that it´s such an high and really (nearly) pure quality, damn.
Okay we also have some advise, if you wanna be taken serious here get your ass back to amph school first mate.
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This meth and amphetamine isomer explanation has been discussed countless times in this thread...lets see how many times we can beat a dead horse
This thread needs a FAQ :)
Still, kudos to those who take the time to explain the basic concepts over and over again, I think it benefits the whole community.
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marquis test for my speed
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Still waiting on my powerade order but was dispatched same day.
Anyone tried anything else recently?
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Received my new, bigger sample from Powerade today, the shipping is really quick, two workdays in transit. You could almost think it's shipped express from Germany. ;D
I dried the baggy (yes, that's wet as well), dry baggy + contents = sold weight
let's see how this bigger sample works for me.
CC were are thou?
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Received my new, bigger sample from Powerade today, the shipping is really quick, two workdays in transit. You could almost think it's shipped express from Germany. ;D
I dried the baggy (yes, that's wet as well), dry baggy + contents = sold weight
let's see how this bigger sample works for me.
CC were are thou?
My PA order just arrived. Also 2 workdays in transit to EU
To dry, is opening the bag and putting in a warm cupboard ok?
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maybe a better question would be, does the process of creating amphetamines always result in a racemic mixture (plus the unconverted freebase and solvents, depending on how far you are along) -- or is it possible for one to be more than the other? Thanks for the replies
This depends on the precursor and the route of synthesis being used. There's at least 2 scientific papers looking at the isomer-distribution of illicit samples. Some methods almost inevitably result in a (almost) racemic mixture (this is mentioned on rhodium as well). So yes, it is possible. The higher the purity though, the less likely it becomes. 100% (dl-)amphetamine is always perfectly racemic, because amph is a racemic compound.
WTF.Finally back after days/months deprived of BTC's to find everything's gone to shit.Any decent amp around...?
For you... no :P iisthisisi maybe, should have my samples by tomorrow, hopefully. will report asap. CC wanted to start handing out speed to me (or everyone?) this week, we'll see. BM is AWOL.
Thanks,.I'll just have to wait for the reports and the return of CC or BM.
MrRocketDE now sends EU-wide, right in time for xmas, what a surprise!
@NumNuts: I just don't like vendors who don't know shit about their products, we need less of those, not more.
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I dried the baggy (yes, that's wet as well), dry baggy + contents = sold weight
let's see how this bigger sample works for me.
Same here. Dried weight is the weight I paid for. Happens not quite often with Speed paste, so for now I'm quite happy. Let's see how it works.
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that's not what I said.
To dry, is opening the bag and putting in a warm cupboard ok?
I cut two sides of the bag open, fold it open and put on a warm place. Solvent is an alcohol that evaporates pretty quickly.
If you have some thin medical one-way latex gloves, put them on, the alcohol goes into the pores of your skin and with it the speed.
Should have dried in about 30min.
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OK, stardate:20-11.1255UTC+1 Captain's log: I just bombed an amount so far unheard of... from Powerade's gear. To honor this specific amount, it was submitted to the Système international d'unités (SI) and is currently under review. The proposed name for this new insane unit of bombing speed will be HH, after it's inventor HelHazz who first pushed the boundaries of bombing crazy amounts.
Thank you everyone for witnessing this glorious moment in speed history!
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that's not what I said.
To dry, is opening the bag and putting in a warm cupboard ok?
I cut two sides of the bag open, fold it open and put on a warm place. Solvent is an alcohol that evaporates pretty quickly.
If you have some thin medical one-way latex gloves, put them on, the alcohol goes into the pores of your skin and with it the speed.
Should have dried in about 30min.
Thx
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I'm honored to have unit of abuse (UOA) named after me HH=about 1/2g..wet ..and I still have most of my own teeth..
I, in no way advise anybody to try this without practice..
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That's why I didn't mention how much it really is ;D Anyway I actually took a double HH. :P
New users, before you start throwing stones at me: The gear was initially estimated at 20% by Knomo. I have mentioned previously that I already had that gear (or at least I strongly believe so) and back then I guesstimated it at 25%. My tolerance since then (must have been at least 6 months ago) has probably gone up ever so slightly, ie I need 3x as much as back then.
1.5 hrs in, I'd say the estimate is still good: around 25% with no ugly adulterants added (or only in extremely low dosages). Got slight euphoria and a noticeable nice tingly body high. I think it's roughly the same as 6 months ago. If you are new here, give this gear a try. It should get you a feel of what speed is like without much danger (of OD or adulterants).
Conclusion: This could very well be the same gear as the one I had 6 months ago, just my tolerance has gone up a tiny bit (thanks CC & BM!). Good speed imho, liked it then, like it now. Drying took away 1/3 of the product :( (-100mg max b/c of sloppy handling, I really don't care if there's a tiny bit left somewhere)
There's some of this on it's way to speedie for labtesting as well (thanks bro!). Without testing MrRocketGER's, I think Powerade (how should we call him? PE?) is the better deal. Still waiting for Rocket-reviews though (someone please make some pics of this).
Extremely high hopes for CC's gear, can't wait to get my hands on it. iisthisisi looks very promising, I hope I receive my sample tomorrow, will let y'all know.
Disclaimer: I can only ever judge the stuff I receive, ie the exact contents in the bag in front of me. Keep in mind that vendors could send better or worse quality to different people, which could skew the results by quite a bit. This has been done in the past and will be done in the future as well. If you experience huge quality differences, let's try to figure this out together and don't start fights who is right about the purity of a certain gear. Don't be a fanboy. Not saying any vendor is currently doing this.
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Hi guys,
I need to get back to the technique described here to be able to snort without getting parts the substance into my lungs.
As I already suffer from a chronic lung disease I don't want to get additional toxic substances into my lungs. This is from a posting a few pages back:
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Inhale. You don't have to breathe in deeply, just a normal lungful will do.
Close off your throat, i.e. start holding your breath. This will separate your lungs from your mouth and sinuses, which will be filled with airborne powder in a few seconds.
Close your mouth, getting all of the air out.
With your lips closed, snort your powder as you usually do, using your (initially empty) mouth to create suction by moving your jaw down and your tongue down and back (like when you yawn). In other words, suck air into your mouth through your nose. This part will take a little getting used to, since you're creating suction with your mouth rather than your diaphragm.
Seal off your sinuses from your (now full) mouth and empty it through your lips.
Repeat steps 4 & 5 until holding your breath starts to become uncomfortable.
Seal off your sinuses from your mouth again, open your lips, and exhale. Your lungs will now be connected to the atmosphere through your mouth, which you just blew all of the powder out of.
Inhale through your mouth only.
Repeat steps 2 – 8 as necessary.
Close off your lips and exhale through your nose. (Optional: exhale half a lungful of air through each nostril by shutting one with your finger and blowing through the other one.)
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For some reason I don't really seem to be able to do that. It is totally unclear to me how you can actually suck through your nose without breathing in. I was hoping someone might be able to explain it in different words or
present another technique on how to do so. The best I can currently achieve is that i only leave a small gap open in my throat. This seems to already improve the situation but I'm sure I'm still inhaling at least parts of it.
So guys, help me out here... I want to be able to snort without inhaling stuff into my lungs.
How to get better at this?
Thanks a lot in advance and best regards...
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That's why I didn't mention how much it really is ;D Anyway I actually took a double HH. :P
New users, before you start throwing stones at me: The gear was initially estimated at 20% by Knomo. I have mentioned previously that I already had that gear (or at least I strongly believe so) and back then I guesstimated it at 25%. My tolerance since then (must have been at least 6 months ago) has probably gone up ever so slightly, ie I need 3x as much as back then.
1.5 hrs in, I'd say the estimate is still good: around 25% with no ugly adulterants added (or only in extremely low dosages). Got slight euphoria and a noticeable nice tingly body high. I think it's roughly the same as 6 months ago. If you are new here, give this gear a try. It should get you a feel of what speed is like without much danger (of OD or adulterants).
Conclusion: This could very well be the same gear as the one I had 6 months ago, just my tolerance has gone up a tiny bit (thanks CC & BM!). Good speed imho, liked it then, like it now. Drying took away 1/3 of the product :( (-100mg max b/c of sloppy handling, I really don't care if there's a tiny bit left somewhere)
There's some of this on it's way to speedie for labtesting as well (thanks bro!). Without testing MrRocketGER's, I think Powerade (how should we call him? PE?) is the better deal. Still waiting for Rocket-reviews though (someone please make some pics of this).
Extremely high hopes for CC's gear, can't wait to get my hands on it. iisthisisi looks very promising, I hope I receive my sample tomorrow, will let y'all know.
Disclaimer: I can only ever judge the stuff I receive, ie the exact contents in the bag in front of me. Keep in mind that vendors could send better or worse quality to different people, which could skew the results by quite a bit. This has been done in the past and will be done in the future as well. If you experience huge quality differences, let's try to figure this out together and don't start fights who is right about the purity of a certain gear. Don't be a fanboy. Not saying any vendor is currently doing this.
I can't stand spilling even a tiny amount! But I'm a girl so I'm neat :P
müslix sorry for another question, feel free to ignore. Have you used daily for 6 months? I don't use daily or binge but I have only ever used very good quality. Last week I tried some "local" stuff and after 1g over 2 hours felt absolutely nothing. BMs stuff still hits me every time though. Any rough guidance on how fast tolerance builds?
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No I don't use daily. Couldn't afford that and would run into supply problems. I usually do "party amounts" (guess that's somewhere between work-amounts and binge-amounts, closer to the latter though) on the weekends or whenever I have the time. My "weekends" very often end up being in the middle of a week. I try not to go longer than 4 days and sleep once every 48hrs. After that I recover at least for 4 days again. Unless something urgent comes up, then I downgrade to "work amounts" (this works really well if you hit the right dosage and sleep & eat daily).
So if I do speed for x days, I make a break for at least x days. Usually. In the summer my breaks were way longer than that, because of the lack of supply. The last two months often shorter due to abundance of good speed.
Afaik the longer you keep going (without sleep and food) the more it will affect your tolerance. If everything feels like coming down already, but you push it with more quality speed (unfortunately this works extremely well with BM) you can get back to a state were you feel like you just got out of bed. This is very bad for tolerance :) If you do speed only on weekends and recover during the week, you should only build up minimal tolerance. I used to do that when I went out clubbing a lot and I never changed source because of quality issues (unless it went straight to bunk).
What sucks though is that the easily built up tolerance takes forever to reverse again. Between late June (?) and BM's second batch and mid-late August and BM's pure batch, I had basically no speed at all and my tolerance didn't change much. But may I refer you to dr. valentinesmith phd., he can probably provide us with more scientific data regarding this interesting phenomenon. I believe he did study it intensely for a month after the release of BM2.0 ;)
btw: I can't do local stuff either anymore. I probably OD first on caffeine or whatever RC it's currently cut with, before I get any amphetamine effects. I think local average is 10-15%, which means I would have to take at least 1.5g for some sort of party buzz, better 2g. I hate being among (mostly younger) local speed users who usually try to impress me with their gear. I always reject offers for a line (wonder how that is perceived lol) as it's a total waste. If BM and CC retire tomorrow, I'd probably retire with them, never going back to that insanely cut crap. (btw PE's gear still works well :) )
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freaks, guys and girls - here I got an advice for you, based on own experience:
[...]
it´s not powder, and there are no rocks in it, as his sold substance is pure base, really fresh and strong smelling,
the gear itself is very creamy, nearly wet, and you have to dry it.
but when it came to a first try I, I realized immediately that it´s such an high and really (nearly) pure quality, damn.
Okay we also have some advise, if you wanna be taken serious here get your ass back to amph school first mate.
however, one thing I know for sure is that the pure amph-base right after the cooking is original liquid.
His actual stuff as already mentioned is not wet, it´s more creamy, and dries very quick and easily as it should be.
I´m satisfied with his gear. Enjoy, too - or nor. Should have only be my opinion, and no laboratory-test-analyses-result, lol...
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and thanks a lot for my first 2 negative-karmas,
won´t inform about actual tested gears and delivered products no more,
as I only wanted to add my opinion.
Really very fair, but I don´t start wining nor stop consuming my high-graded-stuff now.
No more reviews from me in this thread.
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Okay, we will sincerely miss your input.
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CC and BM please come back , or give us an update.....
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Can anyone enlighten me on what CC's prices were? Ballpark figure on price/gram or what he was selling a few grams for would be greatly appreciated..want to have some coin ready if he comes back in the next couple of weeks.
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20$/gram
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and thanks a lot for my first 2 negative-karmas,
won´t inform about actual tested gears and delivered products no more,
as I only wanted to add my opinion.
Really very fair, but I don´t start wining nor stop consuming my high-graded-stuff now.
No more reviews from me in this thread.
Don't worry about that karma bullshit, because it is just that. Hero Status, Jr member. It's all base on how many times you post. You could post "Blah, Blah, Blah!" (literally), 100 times, and move up the so-called "status" ladder. I've been enjoying this thread, and it has helped me immensely in my quest for good speed. Your tests, and/or experiences, are what I need to see, and I believe others seek as well.
I only recently achieved "Jr Member" because during the outtage we were all huddled in here, in the "stuck elevator" (my analogy) of SR, and went back and forth quite a bit. I usually only add something, when I think it's relative, being brought up with the old saying, "if you haven't got something good to say, don't say anything". A month ago I still showed up as "newbie" even though I've been a buyer with excellent stats since April.
Then again, there are those times I'm speeding away, and get on here to give a review that reads more like a term paper! "*)
So keep up those reviews and screw that rating system to your left. It's more of a guide. This forum format is about as old as the internet itself. I treat it like real life. Worrying about +/- karma, is like worrying what people think about you. While we all do to some extent, the more we do, the less we think of ourselves. If it's all positive, then we tend to think too highly of ourselves. So just try and keep everything in perspective.
As I read this back, I just got to the point of thinking, "WTF am I talking about?" -
Anyway here's a quick recent rundown of my expereince as it relates to this thread.
PE = awesome above average speed, A+ shipping, communication, and stealth.
BM = had 2 gs last 2 mos he was on here - superior to anything I've had in recent memory (50 yrs old here)
DB = tried his coke-was always very speedy, ordered his speed a week before outtage-never marked "in transit" even 4 days after SR was up. Cancelled and went w/PE
prior to that I was a simple adderall head, and loved DB4DH's amph caps, they too seemed to have trouble coming back after the outtage, though I think they were close to the storm damage in US without trying to give anything away.
I do believe the storm damage contributed greatly to the outtage situation. Just my opinion, based on previous work experience installing servers in NY.
Let the karma fly.
Thanks to those, who dare to compare! - We need more like you!
As for me, just went through a 3 day withdraw, sleeping 12 hours at a time, trying to binge on food, but stomach is so shrunken! - Hoping my next PE del comes tomorrow!!
Checked the mail this morning, - Nothing !!!-- went back to sleep -- lol. What a way to start my week off.
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I need to get back to the technique described here to be able to snort without getting parts the substance into my lungs.
As I already suffer from a chronic lung disease I don't want to get additional toxic substances into my lungs. This is from a posting a few pages back:
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Inhale. You don't have to breathe in deeply, just a normal lungful will do.
Close off your throat, i.e. start holding your breath. This will separate your lungs from your mouth and sinuses, which will be filled with airborne powder in a few seconds.
Close your mouth, getting all of the air out.
With your lips closed, snort your powder as you usually do, using your (initially empty) mouth to create suction by moving your jaw down and your tongue down and back (like when you yawn). In other words, suck air into your mouth through your nose. This part will take a little getting used to, since you're creating suction with your mouth rather than your diaphragm.
Seal off your sinuses from your (now full) mouth and empty it through your lips.
Repeat steps 4 & 5 until holding your breath starts to become uncomfortable.
Seal off your sinuses from your mouth again, open your lips, and exhale. Your lungs will now be connected to the atmosphere through your mouth, which you just blew all of the powder out of.
Inhale through your mouth only.
Repeat steps 2 – 8 as necessary.
Close off your lips and exhale through your nose. (Optional: exhale half a lungful of air through each nostril by shutting one with your finger and blowing through the other one.)
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For some reason I don't really seem to be able to do that. It is totally unclear to me how you can actually suck through your nose without breathing in. I was hoping someone might be able to explain it in different words or
present another technique on how to do so. The best I can currently achieve is that i only leave a small gap open in my throat. This seems to already improve the situation but I'm sure I'm still inhaling at least parts of it.
So guys, help me out here... I want to be able to snort without inhaling stuff into my lungs.
How to get better at this?
Never really thought about the powder actually getting into the lungs, guess it would be interesting to know if that is a real danger especially for regular users.
I don't have an answer to your question but when I first started snorting speed I was thinking more like the harder you snort the better that's not true obviously. The hard 'vacuum cleaner' technique will increase the chance that the powder shoots to the back of your throat and runs down with the saliva to the stomach. Nothing is really wasted in that way but you want the powder to get and stay in the nasal mucous membranes where the absorption into your body takes place right. In the meantime I've learned to inhale/snort not so hard but like a slow breath which works much better, if the powder is fine and dry it will improve absorption by the mucous membranes.
Using some sort of saline solution spray is also recommended to clean out and flush your nose, this is also mentioned before somewhere in this thread by müslix if I'm correct or maybe others too. You can easily make it yourself by mixing 4,5 grams of salt (a good teaspoonful) without iodine with 0,5 liter of water, it's better to boil the water first or use distilled water.
edit: some dumb typos
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CC and BM please come back , or give us an update.....
CC = Cape Crusader?
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addition to PE's gear: I do feel like shit after a day. Maybe not as clean as I thought. A small line of CC would fix this...
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checking SR:
http://i.qkme.me/3rv9rb.jpg
Christmas scams! Christmas scams everywhere!
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@müslix: thanks for the PE update. So we are really into a dead end at the moment?
A few posts a go someone mentioned iisthisisis , his items on sale seems actually legit, but they are for real? Since you are a living database, can you tell me something about him?
I really need to place an order in the next days, I'd like to buy something that is not totally crap. I'm not pretending CC or BM quality, but at least a clean product without too many physical side effects.
thanks
Edit: Yesterday iisthisisis had items for sale, today is not coming out on when doing a search anymore :/
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Dammit I hate this situation.. ::)
Why can't good vendors stick around? And why does only speed seem to have problems like this, you know.. with pure stuff and all.
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@ Hellwind
I think you mention the dextro amph. I'm sorry but this product was sold out before I even knew..
I still have the normal dl amph for sale.
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@ Hellwind
I think you mention the dextro amph. I'm sorry but this product was sold out before I even knew..
I still have the normal dl amph for sale.
When will you get new D-Amph?
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I do not know when I will get the powder again.
But one of these days I will get some pharmaceutical grade dex amph.
This is not powder, but comes in pills of 5 mg. 30 pills per container.
This is really good stuff :)
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addition to PE's gear: I do feel like shit after a day. Maybe not as clean as I thought. A small line of CC would fix this...
hmmm.... i wouldn't overrate this. i mean you feeling like shit 1 day after PE-gear. it's not that big of a surprise if you decide to bomb 1g at once. in fact you should anticipate an increased rate in side effects.
also i think that by now it has more than been established, that CC's and BM's gear are the best out there. sorry, i'm just starting to get tired on all the praise and hype that is going on around these two vendors. no need to read every second post how good it is, when will they come back, and jerking off intellectually about their product, blablabla. one guy was asking about an update from thee vendors.
guys, think! the more time they spend with "not-concentrating-on-getting-the-next-batch-out-asap" the longer it will take to see some listings. be patient, fellas, it will be offered when it will be offered. just make sure to check these vendors regularly.
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"Furthermore using some sort of saline solution spray is also definitely recommended for regular users to clean up your nose etc. müslix also has mentioned that before in this thread. You can easily make it yourself by mixing 4,5 grams of salt (a good teaspoonful) without iodine with 0,5 liter of water, it's better to cook the water first or use distilled water for the saline."
good advice, i have actually been doing this since "the beginning", i always buy 10x10ml NaCl-Solution from the pharmacy, which i use to refill my nose-spray-bottle. after doing a few lines i always rinse the whole sinus-section thoroughly. also, i tend to snort very slowly to make sure only as little as possible ends up in the lungs, before i snort i often use the saline solution as well, to hydrate everything in order to mke the powder stick better to the nose/etc. ...
about PE:
the gear is deffo worth its money. it is not the strongest, but it's really clean and looks like GMP (good manufacturing practices). i can only encourage everybody to try it out.
BUT:
rocketmans gear is definitely stronger. therefore it is more expensive (about 2.5x so).
best regards,
me.
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So I took the plunge and tried IVing phet sulfate. Unfortunately there went the rest of my BM stash. This method really allows you to see how clean it is when you add water. The feeling from IV is much better than any other ROA in my opinion -- less physically intense than mixing with coffee and cleaner feeling than when insufflating. I would say rectal administration comes the closest to IV in terms of the effects.
On that note, I have a bad feeling that BM is not coming back (such a shame after he teased us with a lab test at nearly 90% pure), but I will keep praying. Has CC said anything about his new batch? Did he manage to get a few more percents on the purity scale? CC's last batch was amazing regardless, so I can't wait for his next!
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we reached 200 sites then, great :P
@iisthisisi: thanks for the offer, but not in need for dl-amph right now :(
@UnbekannterAffe: thanks for the review. I'll have a try of rocketman gears then
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No I don't use daily. Couldn't afford that and would run into supply problems. I usually do "party amounts" (guess that's somewhere between work-amounts and binge-amounts, closer to the latter though) on the weekends or whenever I have the time. My "weekends" very often end up being in the middle of a week. I try not to go longer than 4 days and sleep once every 48hrs. After that I recover at least for 4 days again. Unless something urgent comes up, then I downgrade to "work amounts" (this works really well if you hit the right dosage and sleep & eat daily).
So if I do speed for x days, I make a break for at least x days. Usually. In the summer my breaks were way longer than that, because of the lack of supply. The last two months often shorter due to abundance of good speed.
Afaik the longer you keep going (without sleep and food) the more it will affect your tolerance. If everything feels like coming down already, but you push it with more quality speed (unfortunately this works extremely well with BM) you can get back to a state were you feel like you just got out of bed. This is very bad for tolerance :) If you do speed only on weekends and recover during the week, you should only build up minimal tolerance. I used to do that when I went out clubbing a lot and I never changed source because of quality issues (unless it went straight to bunk).
What sucks though is that the easily built up tolerance takes forever to reverse again. Between late June (?) and BM's second batch and mid-late August and BM's pure batch, I had basically no speed at all and my tolerance didn't change much. But may I refer you to dr. valentinesmith phd., he can probably provide us with more scientific data regarding this interesting phenomenon. I believe he did study it intensely for a month after the release of BM2.0 ;)
btw: I can't do local stuff either anymore. I probably OD first on caffeine or whatever RC it's currently cut with, before I get any amphetamine effects. I think local average is 10-15%, which means I would have to take at least 1.5g for some sort of party buzz, better 2g. I hate being among (mostly younger) local speed users who usually try to impress me with their gear. I always reject offers for a line (wonder how that is perceived lol) as it's a total waste. If BM and CC retire tomorrow, I'd probably retire with them, never going back to that insanely cut crap. (btw PE's gear still works well :) )
Thx a lot. My 2g from PA dried to 1.3g, I'll try tomorrow.
I've gone without sleep loads of times but never 2 nights in a row. The next morning I normally have coffee and a bump of BMs and I'm sorted for the day. Other than that I use "working" amount only.
Totally echo your comment on local stuff. 1g and feeling absolutely nothing while people around me think I'm mental. A tiny bump of BMs still does it for me though so my tolerance is minimal but real. I'll sample PEs tomorrow.
Giving CC till mid dec to come through then I'm also retiring.
Thx :D
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New Entry or I missed it on my search?
From germany, CaliKartell, claims 75% pure past..
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b511733278
Update: I ordered 1 g sample, i'll keep you updated.
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I'm having me and myself an order from Powerade... let's see how this goes ::)
Had Juergens paste ... stuff was okay, 20-30 % ... would order again
Looking forward to deja vu with BM ... and not to forget CC
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Very interested in seeing more reviews on PE's product. I just ordered a gram and a half myself the other day. What would you guys say is a good dosing range of his product? :D
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Furthermore using some sort of saline solution spray is also definitely recommended for regular users to clean up your nose etc. müslix also has mentioned that before in this thread. You can easily make it yourself by mixing 4,5 grams of salt (a good teaspoonful) without iodine with 0,5 liter of water, it's better to cook the water first or use distilled water for the saline.
good advice, i have actually been doing this since "the beginning", i always buy 10x10ml NaCl-Solution from the pharmacy, which i use to refill my nose-spray-bottle. after doing a few lines i always rinse the whole sinus-section thoroughly. also, i tend to snort very slowly to make sure only as little as possible ends up in the lungs, before i snort i often use the saline solution as well, to hydrate everything in order to mke the powder stick better to the nose/etc. ...
Handy indeed, have bought a couple of small nasal spray bottles myself too which can be properly refilled. The above homemade saline solution is similar or practically the same as most drugstores and pharmacists are selling. Noticed a few sloppy stupid typos in my message, should be clean out instead of up and water is boiled not cooked.. shame on me :P
Anyway received my 1g of Powerade today too, after drying it's 0,65g on my scale so it fits the item description well. Will probably try it sometime later this week(end) already have some pretty good stuff imho of Amsterdope atm.
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Powerade's are the best things that can be obtained on SR in my opinion because you get everything really awesome from a single power keep it up
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addition to PE's gear: I do feel like shit after a day. Maybe not as clean as I thought. A small line of CC would fix this...
hmmm.... i wouldn't overrate this. i mean you feeling like shit 1 day after PE-gear. it's not that big of a surprise if you decide to bomb 1g at once. in fact you should anticipate an increased rate in side effects.
also i think that by now it has more than been established, that CC's and BM's gear are the best out there. sorry, i'm just starting to get tired on all the praise and hype that is going on around these two vendors. no need to read every second post how good it is, when will they come back, and jerking off intellectually about their product, blablabla. one guy was asking about an update from thee vendors.
regarding side-effects: true ofc, although it has been claimed to be cut with inactive stuff only. But we all know that's BS, 10 times out of 10. It did take me by surprise though how crappy you can feel after only one day.
Lesson learned. I'll never buy speed again that contains unknown adulterants. Ever. Risk of poisoning is just too high. So I basically quit 'speed' and stick to amphetamine or reasonable mixtures thereof that are as close to the source as the pure amph (eg BM2.0 for the sake of tolerance). I am literally sick of this shit. If I ever get caught not following this I buy you something big and awesome, like a pony. High purity speed sold from a drug dealer is a myth anyway. All the high purity gear I ever had (in more than a decade) came from within a distance of [0, 1] to the manufacturer.
If I catch someone deliberately selling fake (pure) amphetamine to me or anyone else like FUK did with his labtest, I'll do something more nasty than just making sure you get banned. Giving sensitive information away for example, like "calikartell == jalapeno" just not as incredibly obvious as this. Pretty much every currently active speed vendor is connected to another one or a previous one. Madness! That pattern recognition class really stuck with me ;) I am also not gonna expose any more scammers, people just don't want to hear that they will be scammed. Sad but true, I'm thinking about a blackmail scheme instead (anyone wanna help?).
Oh and FYI: that was not the usual praise about CC's gear, it actually was a reference to my first line of his amph that 'fixed' a weekend of meth pretty easily. More of an "insider comment".
Thank God for Marijuana! The best anti-emetic the pharma industry never created.
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Part2: it's almost my 6 months anniversary! (I know no one gives a shit, but I need those two posts as timestamped proof)
If anyone cares: I registered this account almost 6 months ago to buy speed on here. My first order was a scam of course, but my second order was (at the time) pretty decent speed. Came from a vendor called "GermanExpress", some may remember him. That one successful purchase 6 months ago came back to my mind just recently and it really made me think. I actually do feel as clever as Faust, a change in pattern is long overdue so I am adopting the more relaxed (and way more wise) vsmith™ model of buying (I've split my money for different orders when BM2.0 arrived and after the first line I was like "ahh @#$%! should have done the same as vs" lol). No more buying sample amounts and reviewing/poisoning myself unless it's pure, was fun for a while but it's really getting old and repetitive by now. I could have saved a ton of money or I could have the equivalent of decent gear now. (If you bothered to read this and don't really get it, read again in 6 months, you will understand then).
Fun fact: SR offers the incredible opportunity for drug chemists to work completely independent from all organized crime. Selling straight to the end-user without middlemen. Requirements: successfully 2 items sold on eBay and common sense. After 6 months, well let's say the yield could be better. I realize I have no clue where or what the bottlenecks are, but BM+CC+a logistics guy and they could play Monopoly on SR (don't get the German mate, I hear he isn't reliable).
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Boymasters page does say. "last seen today". so you never know! Might be getting ready to list! - Thinking positive!
Come on Boymaster. You gonna male a Christmas miracle happen ??? : ))
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Furthermore using some sort of saline solution spray is also definitely recommended for regular users to clean up your nose etc. müslix also has mentioned that before in this thread. You can easily make it yourself by mixing 4,5 grams of salt (a good teaspoonful) without iodine with 0,5 liter of water, it's better to cook the water first or use distilled water for the saline.
good advice, i have actually been doing this since "the beginning", i always buy 10x10ml NaCl-Solution from the pharmacy, which i use to refill my nose-spray-bottle. after doing a few lines i always rinse the whole sinus-section thoroughly. also, i tend to snort very slowly to make sure only as little as possible ends up in the lungs, before i snort i often use the saline solution as well, to hydrate everything in order to mke the powder stick better to the nose/etc. ...
Why don't you just dissolve some amph into your saline solution?
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Dammit I hate this situation.. ::)
Why can't good vendors stick around? And why does only speed seem to have problems like this, you know.. with pure stuff and all.
my tip for today....i have been watching Premiumdutch for a while.....these guys are doing a good job...been here for ages...and are steadyly rising.....no fuss...gooed produckts.. and fast delivery......
my 2 cents..or dollars...lol
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If anyone cares: I registered this account almost 6 months ago to buy speed on here. My first order was a scam of course, but my second order was (at the time) pretty decent speed. Came from a vendor called "GermanExpress", some may remember him. That one successful purchase 6 months ago came back to my mind just recently and it really made me think. I actually do feel as clever as Faust, a change in pattern is long overdue so I am adopting the more relaxed (and way more wise) vsmith™ model of buying (I've split my money for different orders when BM2.0 arrived and after the first line I was like "ahh @#$%! should have done the same as vs" lol). No more buying sample amounts and reviewing/poisoning myself unless it's pure, was fun for a while but it's really getting old and repetitive by now. I could have saved a ton of money or I could have the equivalent of decent gear now. (If you bothered to read this and don't really get it, read again in 6 months, you will understand then).
Ok, so in your opinion there's no good amph available at the moment?
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Rocketman vs. Powerade
Who will win in your opinion?
Additionally considering the different prices they have.
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Rocketman vs. Powerade
Who will win in your opinion?
Additionally considering the different prices they have.
Rocketmans stuff should be stronger regarding the reviews, but if you take in mind that you pay about double the price maybe it doesn't matter because then you can also take more of PEs stuff with the same effect.
Tested PEs sample yesterday. Quality is okay, not the strongest speed but it works and as already mentioned it seems that is not heavily cut with Caffeine etc.
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received iisthisisi's samples today. Unfortunately the dextro sold out before I even got to test it. You bastards! Anyway, I have some of all. The dextro looks really nice, I was playing around with the bag for like 15 minutes, kinda hypnotic. Not sure if I should frame it and put it on a wall or test it :) 72 is slightly moist, similar or maybe a bit more than CC's first sample. The PEA cut stuff is interesting. forms some clumps as it probably binds the moistness. Looked up PEA on PIHKAL and (correct me if I am wrong) it's a base like amph, reacts to the carbonate salt when in contact with air. I figured it's not cut with PEA freebase, but some salt, HCL maybe? Also it occurs in mammals and chocolate. Has a very short half-life (10 min) and is said to be pretty much inactive (shulgin) or a NDRA (wiki). Closely related to amph of course.
Was slightly skeptical as the first thing I saw on wiki was stimulant, cns, yada yada. But this sounds like one of the better choices for an adulterant.
Anyone want pics? Might be the last ones in a long time :P
my tip for today....i have been watching Premiumdutch for a while.....these guys are doing a good job...been here for ages...and are steadyly rising.....no fuss...gooed produckts.. and fast delivery......
disagree. his other account never did well and only ever sold shit. anyone wanna guess? lol
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Yes Mus, pics of the stuff please :D I'm curious what you have gotten
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Bombed 0.3g of Powerades stuff an hour ago on an empty stomach. Not feeling much.. :-\
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Furthermore using some sort of saline solution spray is also definitely recommended for regular users to clean up your nose etc. müslix also has mentioned that before in this thread. You can easily make it yourself by mixing 4,5 grams of salt (a good teaspoonful) without iodine with 0,5 liter of water, it's better to cook the water first or use distilled water for the saline.
good advice, i have actually been doing this since "the beginning", i always buy 10x10ml NaCl-Solution from the pharmacy, which i use to refill my nose-spray-bottle. after doing a few lines i always rinse the whole sinus-section thoroughly. also, i tend to snort very slowly to make sure only as little as possible ends up in the lungs, before i snort i often use the saline solution as well, to hydrate everything in order to mke the powder stick better to the nose/etc. ...
Why don't you just dissolve some amph into your saline solution?
Right also an option, in the category 'creative with amph' you could put the amph in pretty much every food/drink source. (and yeah even into your butt hole right)
I often mix small amounts in a drink but not actually into the nasal spray. Guess I like snorting it the old fashion way too much, occasionally with some speed bombs not really large amounts.
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Can please someone do a Zusammenfassung (recapitulation :P) of German Speed Seller?
Jürgen: wet paste, loosing 25% of weight, I think it's around 30%, but working nice for me. Boost of mood and physical rush (coffeine cutted probably) but least for long.
Powerade: wet paste, loosing 25% of weight, Low % amphetamines but clean and cheap product
Rocketman: wet paste, loosing 25% of weight, stronger than Powerade even if costing almost 2x
CaliKartell: ? (just ordered a sample yesterday, will update)
jalapeno: ? (still scamming?)
proline: ? (recent feedback anyone?)
Dagobert: We had one review saying it's strong, but not from very professional reviewer. Anyway Dagobert it's around since long and didn't hear complains.
CrystalMethCat: was disappointed from his/her Meth, but Speed could be better? Anyone?
SuperTrips: he's back and selling 20g package. I would order it if someone can tell me it's a good product and was not scammed..I don't want to receive such a big bag if crap ;)
Thanks.
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My experiences with vendors from Germany are (collected through more than a year):
Jürgen2001: high and constant quality, in my opinion the best speed you can get from germany at the moment
Powerade: poor quality but very cheap, its odd that I can sleep short after taking it (even after pretty big amounts)
Rocketman: better quality than Powerade but also not very good, pretty expensive for this - but I had better and other (consistency) speed from him than he ships now just a few weeks ago
Dagobert: ordered several times from him during the last months, there were huge differences in quality - from very poor to very good
Dr.Speed/streetpharmacy also was a good vendor who shipped fast and had constant good quality, but I haven't seen him for a long time :(
Proline has some very cheap offers, 25g for 8 BTC... I doubt you can get good speed for this price
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hey müslix, could you please say something about the quality especially of the 72% "normal" stuff from iisthisisi. i also got mine today but i can't test it today.. i'm very excited to be honest..
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I will post a first impression tomorrow, need some more sleep. Pics also tomorrow, I need sunlight for quality pics with lowquality cam.
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Has anyone tried the Speed of OldAmsterdam? Still waiting for my 2g order. He says it has a purity about 72%+, of course it will has less, but he offers 100% refund in case the quality doesn't match the clients needs?
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Powerade's speed is a bit strange, left me with bit of a numb feeling in the jaw which I only had with meth before. It does not give me the same energizing feeling.
Packaging and speed of deliverance was perfect. And product dirt cheap, maybe that's why ... :-)
Will try again in a few days.
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Hi !!!
I need know a seller that send Amphetamine without Caffeine. I am hipersensible to caffeine.
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Tried Dagoberts, it has a mild effect from swallowing 1 point, but that fades after an hour or so 2 points is okay but not at all a good speedy wack that even street gives you so I remain unimpressed for the money. BM is still the best bang for buck so far out of the three I have tried.
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My experiences with vendors from Germany are (collected through more than a year):
Jürgen2001: high and constant quality, in my opinion the best speed you can get from germany at the moment
Powerade: poor quality but very cheap, its odd that I can sleep short after taking it (even after pretty big amounts)
Rocketman: better quality than Powerade but also not very good, pretty expensive for this - but I had better and other (consistency) speed from him than he ships now just a few weeks ago
Dagobert: ordered several times from him during the last months, there were huge differences in quality - from very poor to very good
Dr.Speed/streetpharmacy also was a good vendor who shipped fast and had constant good quality, but I haven't seen him for a long time :(
Proline has some very cheap offers, 25g for 8 BTC... I doubt you can get good speed for this price
That's a pretty fine summary and is sadly consistent with my experiences.
The enormous added moisture is also very annoying.
I will for now refrain from further orders.
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Little update of my post.
Jürgen: wet paste, loosing 35-40% of weight, I think it's around 30%, but working nice for me. Boost of mood and physical rush (coffeine cutted probably) but least for long. Generally his speed quality is always OK, shame he sells now only 2g package (dried is 1.5 or even less)
Powerade: wet paste, loosing 25% of weight, Low % amphetamines but clean and cheap product. Some people find it odd (possible to sleep even on pretty high dosage, feeling crappy the next day), some others are happy with it.
Rocketman: wet paste, loosing 25% of weight, stronger than Powerade even if costing almost 2x. Still, cannot be compared to CC or BM. Last batch seems less powerful.
CaliKartell: ? (just ordered a sample, will update)
jalapeno: ? (still scamming?)
proline: extremely cheap price (9bc for 25g) is probably and index of low quality speed, but still waiting for other feedbacks.
Dagobert: Sometimes very poor quality, sometimes very good. It's like a lottery ;)
CrystalMethCat: was disappointed from his/her Meth, but Speed could be better? Anyone?
SuperTrips: he's back and selling 20g package. I would order it if someone can tell me it's a good product and was not scammed..I don't want to receive such a big bag if crap ;)
Thanks.
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PS: Can someone suggest a good EU Meth seller until good amph will be around again? I used to buy from CW from time to time but she/he is not available yet.
I bought 2 months a go from CMC but was not very happy about, may be his new batch are better?
thanks for the info
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hey müslix, could you please say something about the quality especially of the 72% "normal" stuff from iisthisisi. i also got mine today but i can't test it today.. i'm very excited to be honest..
Took some 20 minutes ago. What does this smell like? I recognized it but I can't put my finger on it. It's a pretty distinct chemical smell, not the "normal speed smell". It's also a bit more moist than it looked through the bag, not that sticky gooey type of moisture.
Have an appointment in 2 hours and I'm pretty lazy/tired, let's hope this gear kicks some ass.
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I ended up taking 1/2 a g of Powerades yesterday and got tired waiting for anything to happen. I had an "event" to attend to so I was forced to revert to a bump of quality stuff and so ended in a nice evening.
No idea about %s but this is fairly low imo. Is it not advertised as >50%?
I was considering trying his coke but probably won't now.
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Very sad that almost every feedback is telling, that it's good stuff and in the end it's not good at all.
I think our last hope to get some real stuff is iisthisisi, right?
müslix or anybody else who got his sample/order...... could you inform us about the quality?
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hi guys...
well, powerades gear is average. it cant be that bad because it helped me during my workdays this week although i was not getting more than 4-5 hours sleep per night. can't be that bad as some people say. of course you might have to take a bit more. the last mornings i snorted about 300-400 mg before leaving the house and then every 2 hours another 200-300mg. helped me to not get sleepy. in my opinion it is worth its money, but you need to be clear you need to up your dosage in order to feel similar effects than what you are used to.
last time i ordered with juergen i was totally UNPLEASED. not only did my baggy look as if EXTRA liquid has been added, but the stuff was so hard to get to a powdery-form where I could snort it. this stuff was like a a mixture of bubble-gum and toothpaste, so fuckin sticky!!! it was a nightmare and the worst consistency i have ever had. that was when I decided I am not gonna order from juergen anymore. took a few hours to get it ready for snorting and still i was not satisfied with it. every other gear i had only took fragments of the time to prepare.
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I can't snort speed, it's too unpleasant.
Does swallowing give a net reduction in how much amph is ultimately absorbed into the blood?
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Took some 20 minutes ago. What does this smell like? I recognized it but I can't put my finger on it. It's a pretty distinct chemical smell, not the "normal speed smell". It's also a bit more moist than it looked through the bag, not that sticky gooey type of moisture.
Have an appointment in 2 hours and I'm pretty lazy/tired, let's hope this gear kicks some ass.
So what's your verdict?
On the topic of iisthisisi, why would anyone buy l-methamphetamine? Honest question!
I can't snort speed, it's too unpleasant.
Does swallowing give a net reduction in how much amph is ultimately absorbed into the blood?
Yes. The exact difference varies with stomach content and acidity, snorting technique, etc. Myself I still prefer the oral route, mostly to avoid hurting my nose but also because of the smoother onset.
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@UnbekannterAffe: I agree Jurgen stuff is a nightmare to open, unpack and get it dried. But stuff itself is good. Normally I just open with with a scissors, get it with a spoon and then just flattering it on some clean paper sheets and wait 30 mins. Product get dried quiet fast in this way.
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Has anyone tried the Speed of OldAmsterdam? Still waiting for my 2g order. He says it has a purity about 72%+, of course it will has less, but he offers 100% refund in case the quality doesn't match the clients needs?
Can't someone with the facility try to wash it or even A/B it and see what comes back?
Maybe I can order once I get some spare coin and if it's under 72% I can get my full refund :D
Peace
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so nobody tried Supertrips minimum 20g package?
May be he got really good gears and we are not aware since everybody thinks it could be a scam and don't want to waste money? :D
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I can't snort speed, it's too unpleasant.
Does swallowing give a net reduction in how much amph is ultimately absorbed into the blood?
Yes. The exact difference varies with stomach content and acidity, snorting technique, etc. Myself I still prefer the oral route, mostly to avoid hurting my nose but also because of the smoother onset.
Thanks. Actually I stopped snorting after 1 very unpleasant experience and never went back. Also, like tonight when out with the girls, I'll generally make some capsules and swallow them whenever needed. Going to the toilet to snort is horrible (and means I sniff and sneeze a lot) especially when with friends who don't do drugs.
Taking 1g of PA out tonight. I hope I get something from it as I'm already exhausted :)
Afternoon all
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What does this smell like? I recognized it but I can't put my finger on it. It's a pretty distinct chemical smell, not the "normal speed smell".
It's the same what i've recognized. for myself i would describe the smell in a relation with a cat toilet. sounds odd but it somehow does smell similar
anyways: for me it's the best speed available on SR right now - i wouldn't even bother comparing it to the in Germany based sellers at the moment.
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Looks like Powerade has got himself some "premium" speed.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=66540.135;topicseen
He says that the price is going to rise accordingly. For some reason Silk Road is being a bit weird for me, and I can't check the price right now. What I do know is that PA is a good vendor to work with (have purchased other products). It'll be interesting to see how the new Billy is!
Btw, another vote for the, ahem, speedy return of Cape Crusader!
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There we are- Powerade's new speed is being advertised as >50% purity. 5 grams for 4 bitcoins, 10 grams for 7 coins.
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Hey this is a great new. Will buy and see..I love the fact of an amount of % amph but a clean (hopefully) quality,.
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I can't snort speed, it's too unpleasant.
Does swallowing give a net reduction in how much amph is ultimately absorbed into the blood?
I think so. Most drugs are partially destroyed at the first-pass through the liver. The bioavailability is much higher, also IV injections are more powerful than snorting. So I would say oral < nasal < IV (effect/dosage).
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Oral does indeed suffer a decrease in bioavailability due to first-pass metabolism. However, stomach alkalinity and urine alkalinity can increase absorption. Taking some tums before, or even with your amphet will help you absorb it more completely. Taking something like Pepcid (AC/Complete) or Zantac can reduce acid in your stomach further.
I'm not into IV, snorting hurts, and can be bad for your nose/sinuses, oral has the bioavaliability hit (and takes a while), and smoking isn't possible. What's left for a quick buzz? Rectal. Dissolve some amphet and a pinch of baking soda, put it in a oral or needle-less syringe, and shove it up the pooper. The rush comes on quick. This is especially good if you've got a partner that you're having sexytimes with. inb4 "u like it in the butt, faggot!" Your mom likes it in the butt, and that's all I have to say about that.
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Oral does indeed suffer a decrease in bioavailability due to first-pass metabolism. However, stomach alkalinity and urine alkalinity can increase absorption. Taking some tums before, or even with your amphet will help you absorb it more completely. Taking something like Pepcid (AC/Complete) or Zantac can reduce acid in your stomach further.
I'm not into IV, snorting hurts, and can be bad for your nose/sinuses, oral has the bioavaliability hit (and takes a while), and smoking isn't possible. What's left for a quick buzz? Rectal. Dissolve some amphet and a pinch of baking soda, put it in a oral or needle-less syringe, and shove it up the pooper. The rush comes on quick. This is especially good if you've got a partner that you're having sexytimes with. inb4 "u like it in the butt, faggot!" Your mom likes it in the butt, and that's all I have to say about that.
Could be working with capsules too, couldn't it?
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so nobody tried Supertrips minimum 20g package?
May be he got really good gears and we are not aware since everybody thinks it could be a scam and don't want to waste money? :D
Believe it or not, after more than 2 months of waiting I received a full refund from Supertrips of $2550, and the money went straight back into his account for 100 grams of Speed and 100 grams of MDMA.
Crazy? Lets hope not haha, I honestly respect the bloke for coming back and making things right with all of us and want to support his business.
But yeah, I'll certainly let you guys know what the quality is like as soon as I receive it.
In the meantime though, I *apparently* have 25 grams of "very strong" speed from Jalapeno coming in the mail. It has been over 20 days and I still haven't received anything. Before I placed my order I ensured that we were both happy to keep my funds in escrow until I receive my product. I didn't receive the product in the appropriate time frame and it was about to auto-finalise, so I apply for an extension, and what does he do? He declines it. What a joke. His rating has gone down significantly since I placed my order with him and some claim he is a selective scammer. Time will tell I suppose, but so far I am not happy with the service I'm receiving from him and the horrible communication on his part. People have complained about his horrible stealth method, and being in Australia, this isn't a good sign.
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Long time no see. And hello to all new folks! I'm here only for (quality) speed. Just placed an order for Powerade (just b4 SR went down again) while waiting the glorious return of BM & CC.
Here at SR, I've done speed of
* MrFireUK - was mediocre stuff /w LOTS of caffeine. Also turned out to be a scammer.
* Juergen - Mediocre stuff, maybe caffeine cutted.
* Boymaster - Holy shit, kick ass stuff! Tolerance goes up fast with this I think. First day 0.1g will do the thing, second day 0.4g & some booze = just sober… :/ (Or maybe it's because I took some benzos to get some sleep..)
* CapeCrusader - Just great! It's been 10 years when I got this kind of stuff. Really nice clean high and when coming down, it's nice smoooooth experience. And that's rare!
* Powerade - Let's see…….
How about this iisthisi you're talking about. Worth of trying?
~Q~
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Thank you for the update Sinner.
I update my "Sticky" reports of sellers based on your feedbacks as well. I think it could be useful to keep it every 1-2 pages so new people can have a reference.
GERMAN SELLERS
Jürgen : POLISH-SPEED: wet paste, loosing 35-40% of weight. IMO is OK (but cutted with coffeine). Juergen used to sell bad stuff at the beginning (except the medical grade was nice), in the last 5 months I received always the same product ordering polish speed, but some users reports he's a random scammer.
Powerade: wet paste, loosing 25% of weight, Old batch: Low % amphetamines but clean and cheap product // New Batch: increased quality (23.11.12), just placed an order, will update.
Rocketman: wet paste, loosing 25% of weight, stronger than Powerade even if costing almost 2x. Still, cannot be compared to CC or BM. Last batch seems less powerful.
CaliKartell: ? (just ordered a sample, will update)
jalapeno: Until further feedback, flagged as Scammer.
proline: 20 % amphetamin and a lot of caffein, bad communication, not suggested until further feedbacks arrives.
Dagobert: Sometimes very poor quality, sometimes very good. It's like a lottery ;)
CrystalMethCat: was disappointed from his/her Meth, but Speed could be better? Anyone?
SuperTrips: A member did not received a big amount and got a full refund. Supertrips is a serious seller, still no feedback on his speed.
NON-German Sellers:
iisthisisi: currently offering meth, dl-amph and 30ish% speed. He looks like a legit seller. Feedbacks (müslix?) are welcome
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proline: extremely cheap price (9bc for 25g) is probably and index of low quality speed, but still waiting for other feedbacks.
After reading this I just had to do some investigating and came across this feedback on his profile:
we had a labtest for this product, it contained arround 20 % amphetamin and a lot of caffein. the vendor wasnt ready to communicate with us, until we got to the resolution center. he finally accepted a 80% refund, as the product only contained 1/5 of the advertised strengh. this vendor is not honest. dont buy from him.
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Thanks Sinner! I updated my post with your info.
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Every time I read something positive about Juergen, I feel the urgent desire to remind people that his speed is the worst ever lab-tested on SR. ;)
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=78aa5d91a334ae5526d0104f3aae7f80.jpg
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stoney1980: which one exactly? I am talking about the polish speed. The dutch speed he got was really bad I agree ;)
If this test refers to the polish paste, then I agree it's a bad speed, but now it's clear to me why it least so long with meth inside as well..I thought it was the coffeine heeh
If you confirm me this i'll update my post
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The lab-test was from April. The description of the speed he was selling at that time included a nice story about how he convinced his mdma-cook to make pure amphetamine..
for me Juergen is in the same league as Aakhoven - never bought from him and never will ;D
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I received bad speed from J. at the beginning it's true, but since 5 months or so he is selling the polish paste and I always received the same stuff that was OK (I said ok, not WO-WOO ;)
Anyway i'll edit my post to add this info. thanks!
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Kinda funny that you mention this, because there actually people who like the effect. I tried it myself last weekend and it SUCKED! Gave me high blood pressure and just the slightest form of euphoria. Nothing compared to the dextro form.
At least in my opinion. Other people may think different, I have been going through some reports and apparently some people like it.
Since I had the stuff laying around, why not put it on sale.
About the amph, I know for 100% sure it isn't cut. Muslix mentioned it was just the slightest wet, so I put in an extra amount and let the rest dry out.
So to match the listing title on SR more, the stuff is now really dry.
Took some 20 minutes ago. What does this smell like? I recognized it but I can't put my finger on it. It's a pretty distinct chemical smell, not the "normal speed smell". It's also a bit more moist than it looked through the bag, not that sticky gooey type of moisture.
Have an appointment in 2 hours and I'm pretty lazy/tired, let's hope this gear kicks some ass.
So what's your verdict?
On the topic of iisthisisi, why would anyone buy l-methamphetamine? Honest question!
I can't snort speed, it's too unpleasant.
Does swallowing give a net reduction in how much amph is ultimately absorbed into the blood?
Yes. The exact difference varies with stomach content and acidity, snorting technique, etc. Myself I still prefer the oral route, mostly to avoid hurting my nose but also because of the smoother onset.
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The lab-test was from April. The description of the speed he was selling at that time included a nice story about how he convinced his mdma-cook to make pure amphetamine..
for me Juergen is in the same league as Aakhoven - never bought from him and never will ;D
HEY STONY1980 your BUSTED...
ERVERY ONE should read all your posts....your 200% BoyMaster ...or boymaster clone....spammer...
YOUR PULLING EVERY ONE DOWN.!!!!......I DONT KNOW JURGENs..but hey...he is a bigggg vendor here...and big trees catch a lot of wind......my friend..
your a prick !!!
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The lab-test was from April. The description of the speed he was selling at that time included a nice story about how he convinced his mdma-cook to make pure amphetamine..
for me Juergen is in the same league as Aakhoven - never bought from him and never will ;D
HEY STONY1980 your BUSTED...
ERVERY ONE should read all your posts....your 200% BoyMaster ...or boymaster clone....spammer...
YOUR PULLING EVERY ONE DOWN.!!!!......I DONT KNOW JURGENs..but hey...he is a bigggg vendor here...and big trees catch a lot of wind......my friend..
your a prick !!!
actually you're
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HEY STONY1980 your BUSTED...
ERVERY ONE should read all your posts....your 200% BoyMaster ...or boymaster clone....spammer...
YOUR PULLING EVERY ONE DOWN.!!!!......I DONT KNOW JURGENs..but hey...he is a bigggg vendor here...and big trees catch a lot of wind......my friend..
your a prick !!!
hi juergen! :D
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Has anyone bought speed from AfterHour?
I'm after some decent quality speed for a good price.
I was thinking proline, but the fedback hasn't been the best.
Now I"m tossing up between Powerade & AfterHour.
AfterHour's communication has been very poor, but the prices are low...
Can someone help me out?
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Has anyone bought speed from AfterHour?
I'm after some decent quality speed for a good price.
as small side note:
you want decent quality for a good price. i really doubt that you get what you are planning to buy.
let me get this straight - i don't blackmail or anything like that but when you use your brain something on here can't be right.
expl. SPEED PASTE!!! 55-60% 100g around $345
if the quality is as declared i would buy the hole stock but that sounds highly unlikely to me.
of course ppl on here are invited to show me that i'm wrong
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Has anyone bought speed from AfterHour?
I'm after some decent quality speed for a good price.
as small side note:
you want decent quality for a good price. i really doubt that you get what you are planning to buy.
let me get this straight - i don't blackmail or anything like that but when you use your brain something on here can't be right.
expl. SPEED PASTE!!! 55-60% 100g around $345
if the quality is as declared i would buy the hole stock but that sounds highly unlikely to me.
of course ppl on here are invited to show me that i'm wrong
Yes, that's why I want to know peoples experiences with these particular vendors...
Why can't there be some better speed vendors on here?!
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We are all asking this question jorg796 :D It's simply so incredible that you can find good vendors for almost every other substance on SR except speed :D
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We are all asking this question jorg796 :D It's simply so incredible that you can find good vendors for almost every other substance on SR except speed :D
good point...so we need a speed specialist vendor with more qualities speed and the price tags that go with it....
a hole in the sr road market?
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The lab-test was from April. The description of the speed he was selling at that time included a nice story about how he convinced his mdma-cook to make pure amphetamine..
for me Juergen is in the same league as Aakhoven - never bought from him and never will ;D
HEY STONY1980 your BUSTED...
ERVERY ONE should read all your posts....your 200% BoyMaster ...or boymaster clone....spammer...
YOUR PULLING EVERY ONE DOWN.!!!!......I DONT KNOW JURGENs..but hey...he is a bigggg vendor here...and big trees catch a lot of wind......my friend..
your a prick !!!
hehe in 4 weeks I am probably all about CapeCrusader ;D
LOVE
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Well I'm not interested in everything on offer. Mainly MDMA / Speed / coke.
Weed comes from an IRL supplier.
There are alot of good MDMA vendors selling at good prices.
The coke I've bought has all been good quality. Not exceptional, but nothing to complain about.
The speed I got from MrFire was great. I know alot of people had problems with MrFire though...
But there is a lack of reliable vendors for speed :-(
Although I will be trying Powerade next week :D
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Am I correct in that iisthisisi is pretty much sold out? And all the amphetamine is currently unavailable?
Sorry, but I am not gonna bother with further testing and writing a review then. The guys who bought more should post reviews, it's a fair bit easier to judge speed after 10g than it is after 0.5g. I am a regular customer, I paid for the speed, so I am just gonna get high (as fuck) with what is left, mixing 3 different gears. So I won't be able to tell what speed did what after such a session. :) At least my weekend plans are decided.
HEY STONY1980 your BUSTED...
ERVERY ONE should read all your posts....your 200% BoyMaster ...or boymaster clone....spammer...
your a prick !!!
actually you're
lol, nice catch!
And I thought I am BM/BM's employee/BM's shill, guess I can stop waiting for my paychecks now.
I am free for CC now! BM's speed sucks, worst speed I ever tried. There's probably not even caffeine in it!!11
edit: I am sorry to paint even blacker, but -> CC was last seen: 19 days ago. Expect transit times *[1.5, 2.0]. Sharing the bad feeling about BM a few mentioned here. New promising vendor sells out in 2 days. Pretty depressing. The speed market is back to where it was 6 months ago - nowhere.
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@ müslix
I only have 2 grams left. But expected to get a new batch of the same quality somewhere next week.
In general, I hear a lot of people complain about caffeine in their speed. So most people wash with acetone. However you need to drie the acetone first, otherwise you're gonna lose a lot.
So for everyone who wants the caffeine out of their speed. I designed the following tech:
Requirements:
Speed
Dichloromethane
Water
First you dissolve the speed in water. If there are insoluble particles, you can filter them because they contain only garbage. Next you add app 1/10 the amount of dichloromethane to the water layer and shake very hard. Dichloromethane is heavier then waterand will sink to the bottom. Repeat this twice and all the caffeine will be gone. Next you boil the water away and this leaves you with caffeine free speed.
Care must be taken as dichloromethane is a possible carcinogen.
The idea behind this is that caffeine is 9 times more soluble in dichloromethane. Whereas the sulfate of speed is not.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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OK, so review of iisthisisi's dl-amph:
I took a bit over 0.5 from the dl-amph and divided it in 3 dosages. First thing I took was one of those, didn't feel much after an hour. Wasn't sure what's going on, absorption, due to it still being wet, no idea.
Decided I need to mix with some other gear, first choice the 30% of course. Worked pretty well and felt really clean, side-effect-wise. No nausea, no headache, no jitter.
Knowing they mix well (as advertised) I kept taking them interleaved until early morning hours. Once I arrived at my appointment all bumps where working. Not much Euphoria, maybe due to this strangely delayed onset, but noticeable change in mood, tiredness was wiped out, surprisingly little body-load, but also only little body-high. My mind got slightly tweaking, went grocery shopping after the appointment, bought at least 5 times as much as I wanted to and ran over a shopping clerk in the search for cookies. Helped her picking her stuff back up, told her I was sorry and didn't pay attention due to all the drugs. She laughed (at me probably) moved on and I went for more cookies. I noticed some distinct pro-sexual properties. Buying shit was more important though.
At my subway drive home I sat across a really hot early 20s girl. Not model-anorexic hot, more pornstar hot. She stared at me while I was trying to untangle my headphones and ended up helping me and I congratulated her on the awesome job she did with her hands. Luckily she thought that was funny, we talked a couple more minutes until she hopped off the train and vanished. Could have easily written a ton of scripts for new porn movies after that encounter ;D I definitely got a good increase in sex drive from this gear and had generally lots of fun on it. @helhazz, this could possibly be a nice gear for you as well ;)
and dextro:
I took one line of dextro, it didn't do what I hoped it would (up my motivation), it did what I remembered my last generic dexedrine pills did: kinda canceled out pretty much all physical effects (from the levo), therefore making me feel like I would come down. I can feel my body again and I feel pretty tired physically. Right now I can still focus well, but I am not motivated to go out or anything at all. I switched from those generic DX-10 tabs to Adderall as that dextro was so clean I couldn't achieve a good high when abusing them. Adderall fixed this, probably what it's made for. Had completely forgotten about that.
TL;DR:
dl-amph resulted in a nice, friendly/social and fun high, was low on body-load and other unwanted side-effects (headache, nausea, jitter). Compared to PE I noticed I had to pee way less, indicating possible caffeine in PEs. It's not like BMs and not like CCs gear, probably needs it's own category as well.
Is it amph? I think so. marquis gave orange to firey red. Is purity correct? Could be, need more to make a solid estimate. Definitely way closer to BM & CC, than shit from *. How does it compare? Can't really say yet, enjoyed it enough to order some more for further investigation.
is dextro real? could very well be. purity? no clue, had one line. how does it feel? like it's missing levo. liked it? not really, because I had DL first and this results in a too clean high for my taste. Need to take them the other way around. It really felt like it would counteract some of the dL-effects. Writing this was way less fun than the amount written may suggest.
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Thanks a lot for the accurate feedback müslix - mix ;)
l-amph could be a good alternative used for social activities or party (even if as you said the physical boost is low, could be raise with something else like happy caps of azarius)
I wonder if you could be focused if you need to to precision job or study. well, definitely worth a try.
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I wanted to give props to Powerade for purifying the speed further. I have good feelings about this vendor. If they can get 85%+, PA will rule as it looks now.
Currently I do agree with Muslix, reality is we are right back where we where six months ago, but at least we have good possibilities on the horizon.
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I wanted to give props to Powerade for purifying the speed further. I have good feelings about this vendor. If they can get 85%+, PA will rule as it looks now.
Currently I do agree with Muslix, reality is we are right back where we where six months ago, but at least we have good possibilities on the horizon.
the max purity of speed is 73.98%,.......claiming 85% is bananas...
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I wanted to give props to Powerade for purifying the speed further. I have good feelings about this vendor.
same feelings ere. im hoping to hear that powerades is quite close to that nice d-amph that was goin around from CC/BM/ Mrfire-pre-awol
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OK, so review of iisthisisi's dl-amph:
I took a bit over 0.5 from the dl-amph and divided it in 3 dosages. First thing I took was one of those, didn't feel much after an hour. Wasn't sure what's going on, absorption, due to it still being wet, no idea.
Decided I need to mix with some other gear, first choice the 30% of course. Worked pretty well and felt really clean, side-effect-wise. No nausea, no headache, no jitter.
Knowing they mix well (as advertised) I kept taking them interleaved until early morning hours. Once I arrived at my appointment all bumps where working. Not much Euphoria, maybe due to this strangely delayed onset, but noticeable change in mood, tiredness was wiped out, surprisingly little body-load, but also only little body-high. My mind got slightly tweaking, went grocery shopping after the appointment, bought at least 5 times as much as I wanted to and ran over a shopping clerk in the search for cookies. Helped her picking her stuff back up, told her I was sorry and didn't pay attention due to all the drugs. She laughed (at me probably) moved on and I went for more cookies. I noticed some distinct pro-sexual properties. Buying shit was more important though.
At my subway drive home I sat across a really hot early 20s girl. Not model-anorexic hot, more pornstar hot. She stared at me while I was trying to untangle my headphones and ended up helping me and I congratulated her on the awesome job she did with her hands. Luckily she thought that was funny, we talked a couple more minutes until she hopped off the train and vanished. Could have easily written a ton of scripts for new porn movies after that encounter ;D I definitely got a good increase in sex drive from this gear and had generally lots of fun on it. @helhazz, this could possibly be a nice gear for you as well ;)
and dextro:
I took one line of dextro, it didn't do what I hoped it would (up my motivation), it did what I remembered my last generic dexedrine pills did: kinda canceled out pretty much all physical effects (from the levo), therefore making me feel like I would come down. I can feel my body again and I feel pretty tired physically. Right now I can still focus well, but I am not motivated to go out or anything at all. I switched from those generic DX-10 tabs to Adderall as that dextro was so clean I couldn't achieve a good high when abusing them. Adderall fixed this, probably what it's made for. Had completely forgotten about that.
TL;DR:
dl-amph resulted in a nice, friendly/social and fun high, was low on body-load and other unwanted side-effects (headache, nausea, jitter). Compared to PE I noticed I had to pee way less, indicating possible caffeine in PEs. It's not like BMs and not like CCs gear, probably needs it's own category as well.
Is it amph? I think so. marquis gave orange to firey red. Is purity correct? Could be, need more to make a solid estimate. Definitely way closer to BM & CC, than shit from *. How does it compare? Can't really say yet, enjoyed it enough to order some more for further investigation.
is dextro real? could very well be. purity? no clue, had one line. how does it feel? like it's missing levo. liked it? not really, because I had DL first and this results in a too clean high for my taste. Need to take them the other way around. It really felt like it would counteract some of the dL-effects. Writing this was way less fun than the amount written may suggest.
Home to find i got mail. Damn.. and I got more of the dextro...It's the dextro first, then bump up with dl?...Haven't been following the thread..what was the 30% you mixed in?...ignore that.
.Just looked at iisthisi site
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Roadtest of iisthisisi dextro
.Over 7 days clear of any stims. Just bombed .25 each with Mrs helhazz....and wait.... 8)
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the max purity of speed is 73.98%,.......claiming 85% is bananas...
That's just a matter of definition and has been discussed so many times in this thread..
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And wait... ???
1hr after bomb. Not quite there..
Heart rate up to 96.Feeling slight body tweak with gentle euphoric rush.Mrs HH getting hot flushes ...
and I'm wittering away on here, so must be working.
Another .2 bump will probably hit the spot making about .5 (or 1HH) total .
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the max purity of speed is 73.98%,.......claiming 85% is bananas...
That statement is BS. If this were true, what are the other 26% of one speed then? caffeine? Or why did they stop at 74% speed? Maybe it's because after drying of one speed, you can have maximum 0.74 speed left?
Give back the 26% of missing speeds!!
Also, those OCD...dots...I..have...seen...before...too..lazy...to.....look....up...though.
@helhazz: nothing on 250 dextro?! You realize it should be twice as potent, in theory. In practice you won't notice because the levo part is missing, meaning no tingling, no goosebumps, no restless leg syndrome. Not sure about sex drive though as this could come with either DA or the increased tactile sensibility from NA. Probably is a mix of both.
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try maybe mixing 1:1 with racemic, should give 75:25...poor man's adderall.
edit: you should get solid euphoria though, should hit you right in the dopamine.
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I've ordered 2g from Powerad's Speed ... It was really nice, really smooth. Havn't feel any pain in my stomach or any headhache.
~35% underweight ( Had to let it dry ) but, really for 8-9$ a 0.6/0.7 g ... It's fucking great.
Also, Shipment is 5/5 ( 2 days ) and nice package.
Maybe it isn't the strongest speed sold here, but it does the job ! Will buy again really soon :)
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try maybe mixing 1:1 with racemic, should give 75:25...poor man's adderall.
edit: you should get solid euphoria though, should hit you right in the dopamine.
Nearly 2hrs after bomb. Def buzzing now with euphoric rushes and serious tweaking and surprise tingling.Mrs HH very slight nausea and, quote; a 'phwoar' rush right up her dopamine..
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Re. powerades
Snorted 2-300mg before I went out. Not a huge effect but definitely arrived at the bar in a good lively mood.
Some alcohol and chatting with friends, nipped to the toilet and snorted 200mg more.
Within 30 mins or so I was wide awake, the center of the conversation and had a mild euphoric feeling.
Lasted about 2 hours and within 4 hours I was in bed and asleep.
Btw, snorting was actually very pleasant compared to my previous awful experience of it, and it takes effect way quicker. So I'd describe PAs amp as smooth on the nose.
Considering ordering more as service is 5/5
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the max purity of speed is 73.98%,.......claiming 85% is bananas...
That statement is BS. If this were true, what are the other 26% of one speed then? caffeine? Or why did they stop at 74% speed? Maybe it's because after drying of one speed, you can have maximum 0.74 speed left?
Give back the 26% of missing speeds!!
EDUCATION TIME...I will explain myself...
Speed in powderform is a salt...amfetaminesulfaat......max purity is 73.98%.....because max73.98% can be amfetamine and the other 26.02% is sulfaat.
if the sample is pure...there are no other substances in the sample...
At The Dutch testcenters for drugs we find...in powders anything between 1% and 73.98% amphetamine in speedpowder......you commen street/speed in holland is 30/32%amph in speedpowder.
claiming there can be 85% ampfetamine in speedpowder ....is bananas......beacuse its chemistery...
all in % ampfetamine in speedpowder
10-20% bad bad bad speed find another middleman !!
20-30% nice product
40-50% excellent speed be proud of it.
50-60% very good quality speed lucky bastard
60-70% very strong speed this is the shit, i want your email.
70-73% the ultimate speed .... there is no better in this form, is your dad a amfettie producer ?
have a nice day...
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I like your speed chart haha
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Oh God we've had this discussion so many times :P
85% purity IS possible if you count 85% of max 74% purity.. :)
85/74 equals to 63% amphetamine
Hope you can follow my logic, cause I really don't wanna go and re-type it
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Oh God we've had this discussion so many times :P
85% purity IS possible if you count 85% of max 74% purity.. :)
85/74 equals to 63% amphetamine
Hope you can follow my logic, cause I really don't wanna go and re-type it
sure i can...but in holland anyone can have their speed testet for free....
and we get % like i explaned from out testvcentre......and charted...
your % makes it look better ...its inflated.....dunno how a lab can find your 85%....lab test will show then...63%amph in the sample
normally in holland is often added 1/1 With caffeine...so we have often...70%....35%...17%...but hey.... any thing inbetween is possible ofcoarse.......
so....claiming there can be 85% ampfetamine in speedpowder ....is bananas......beacuse its chemistery...and the sulfhaat wont vanish into thin air .....it reamains in the powder.....what ppl sometimes think......do your own math...and dont let figures fool you......
sorry Knomo...i really cant follow you...you from holland as well.....you know beter........you abuse the percentagen and the definition of purity of amp in speedpowder...
Obama claims 8% unemployment rate....the reality is thats usa has like spain 25%...its just messing figuers....if you do your math..........come on we know what messing with inflating figuers are for.......thays why oam glad we have a test center inholland that any user can have his shit tested for free....
maybe i will set up a sr shop...holland testcenter...lol....so every one can send me samples.....lolololol.....boy.... im going to be in for some vendor hate mail......lol....lmao.......good hole in the market...lol.....
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What the hell is wrong with me??
I tried PE's speed again. And once again my jaw started to feel numb a few hours later from ear to ear. PE is the the guy to go to atm it seems and it's pretty shitty I cant get the same effects :-( it feels heavy on me
Will try with even longer break... to bad...
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I got some of iisthisisi's dex and asked for a dl sample, which he kindly threw in. I'll try the dex next week, as I went straight to the dl over the weekend. It's fucking strong.
Packaging was indiscreet and it arrived in 3-4 days within Europe. I've only tried BM's and not CC's, so I guess that'll be my comparison. Friday I snorted about 40gm, I think (my scales is shit, it turns out), and it hit me like a rocket within 15 minutes. The euphoria's evident enough here and it the urgency hits you like a kick in the pants, which is a particular requirement for some people. My heart got going quick enough, but nothing insane, and felt fine enough throughout the usage period. The bodyload's significantly less, and, wonderfully, there were no back pains to speak of. BM's is a good, physical type, but had little euphoria and a lot of distracting bodyload (pissing, back aches).
After about 1.5 hours the euphoria dims and but you're still talking a physical, tweaking scenario. Jumpy hands territory, but the good, "MOVE NOW!", type. That lasts about another 4 and at the end there's some emotional comedown/anxiety, but I guess that's to be expected with any euphoric drug. It's manageable, which is the important part.
The day after is fine enough. Once I got up (without dosing), there was just the usual hunger and I felt fine. I feel like it's more balanced than BM's and I prefer it. Maybe it's just my body type? It's slightly cheaper than BM's, too.
I worry this might be MFUK or someone else, but if it stays at this level, then I recommend it.
If you're reading this, you have a golden opportunity to plug a very big hole with a very, very good product. Everyone benefits. So keep it up, eh? And thanks!
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The problem is that we can never be certain what mix of chemicals we're taking.
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My chemistry knowledge is a pathetic joke. I studied physics, not chemistry -- which I later learned was to be one of the great ironies of my life, heh.
Actually, yes we can!
Racemic - pointing out the one thing that hurt the most (out of many, sorry dude):
> A racemic mixture is denoted by the prefix (±)- or dl- (for sugars the prefix dl- may be used), indicating an equal (1:1) mixture of dextro and levo isomers. [wiki fucking pedia]
Also calling BS on you studied physics, watching big bang theory doesn't count. You wouldn't get past the first semester if you were that sloppy with definitions and syntax.
Thanks for repeating all the facts on here and adding a sentence regarding the question being answered.
My apologies for bumping something that happened 5 days ago, but I feel compelled to respond for whatever reason and haven't been around. Pardon me this once, please.
You're absolutely right, racemic specifically refers to equal parts. I was wrong. Kind of interesting how you left off the "... as far as I know," part though. Well, either way, you're right and I was wrong. Thank you -- I was a little too amped up to stop and pick up a dictionary, as it were. Like I said, my chemistry knowledge is pretty pathetic, so every little bit counts.
You made a statement about my being wrong as far as not knowing exactly what we take, but then didn't point out how we can be sure exactly what molecules we're ingesting. I'd love to know how: it would take a lot of the guess work out of evaluating drug quality.
I did not major in physics; I was able to choose a biology, chemistry, or physics lab science sequence. I chose physics. I did quite well, actually, misdefinitions and all ;)
Sorry for the interruption. Carry on :)
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try maybe mixing 1:1 with racemic, should give 75:25...poor man's adderall.
edit: you should get solid euphoria though, should hit you right in the dopamine.
Nearly 2hrs after bomb. Def buzzing now with euphoric rushes and serious tweaking and surprise tingling.Mrs HH very slight nausea and, quote; a 'phwoar' rush right up her dopamine..
Very quick next day review....Very strong, full on physical high and extremly heightened sensitivity...Old school speed at it's best and haven't had anything like it for a very very long time ..Took a couple of hours to come up fully and .2 dose is pushing the max to bomb in one go-Thanks Muslix for the timely warning! I wouldn't recommend Newbies to go for this but I love it ,although next day there is a Dexy comedown, which i had forgotton about.Would def.love to have more..
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Oh God we've had this discussion so many times :P
85% purity IS possible if you count 85% of max 74% purity.. :)
85/74 equals to 63% amphetamine
Hope you can follow my logic, cause I really don't wanna go and re-type it
sure i can...but in holland anyone can have their speed testet for free....
and we get % like i explaned from out testvcentre......and charted...
your % makes it look better ...its inflated.....dunno how a lab can find your 85%....lab test will show then...63%amph in the sample
normally in holland is often added 1/1 With caffeine...so we have often...70%....35%...17%...but hey.... any thing inbetween is possible ofcoarse.......
so....claiming there can be 85% ampfetamine in speedpowder ....is bananas......beacuse its chemistery...and the sulfhaat wont vanish into thin air .....it reamains in the powder.....what ppl sometimes think......do your own math...and dont let figures fool you......
sorry Knomo...i really cant follow you...you from holland as well.....you know beter........you abuse the percentagen and the definition of purity of amp in speedpowder...
Obama claims 8% unemployment rate....the reality is thats usa has like spain 25%...its just messing figuers....if you do your math..........come on we know what messing with inflating figuers are for.......thays why oam glad we have a test center inholland that any user can have his shit tested for free....
maybe i will set up a sr shop...holland testcenter...lol....so every one can send me samples.....lolololol.....boy.... im going to be in for some vendor hate mail......lol....lmao.......good hole in the market...lol.....
Well, amphetamine in salt form can be even 100% pure amphetamine salt example: sulphate - why? Because amph sulphate its one unique molecule and not an mixture.There is no other ingridient in it - only amphetamine sulphate. Suitable term is base equivalent and not purity (that two different things )!
Using purity when speaking about amphetamine base equivalent is wrong practise what only confuse people.
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Sorry if this is old news but PA has a new batch as of 23rd Nov and it's "stronger and cleaner" as we've been requesting.
I've been so-so about the last batch but I've stuck in an order for batch2.
w.
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Any news on CapeCrusader?
I'm growing impatient :(... Think I'll take the risk with powerade.. Anyone tried his new batch?
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Powerade's new batch arrived today. As I was not impressed by the first one, I was a bit skeptical. But the new one is definitely stronger.
I'm male 70kg and have decent experience with amph over the last few years.
I let it dry prior to snorting an approximate 40mg line. I don't have a scale right now, but it looked like that. I was pretty satisfied with the effects, because as I mentioned the first batch wasn't really good. Can't tell you much about possible adulterants or caffeine in it, SINCE I didn't want to dose that much...... got a lot of work to do. My heart-rate increased a bit, but I'm still feeling comfortable.
Maybe some of the "pro's" here order some and make a detailed review, but there's no doubt that the second batch is much stronger.
Just my two cents :)
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I'm receiving a sample from Powerade, it should be here by tomorrow.
Also ordered 2g from Proline.. it's in transit for a few days now, so it should be here any day now as well :P
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Intravenous use of amphetamines is the only proper way to do it ,other methods just wast too much of the product (unless you use it rectally ;) ).
I also think that most high % in sr are bullshit, those propably are at best 30% pure...
Clean amph is so powerful drug that most very very experienced users dont even have a clue (and od themselves to death if they find it) no matter what they say.
I wonder is there any sellers that would like me to evaluate their product by sending free sample (0.5g will do)? :D
Btw.i havent ordered anything from sr yet but will do so later, im in a need for a GOOD quality amphetamine provider (powder is what i prefer).
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What's a good starting dose with powerade's first batch of speed? Zero tolerance. I know the two are not directly comparable but I'm looking for the equivalent effects of maybe 15-20mg of adderall, which for me would get me quite sped.
Thanks folks.
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What's a good starting dose with powerade's first batch of speed? Zero tolerance. I know the two are not directly comparable but I'm looking for the equivalent effects of maybe 15-20mg of adderall, which for me would get my quite sped.
Thanks folks.
Unless you're talking about a time-crunch kind of situation where you need it to work right within an hour, I'd say start at 15-20mg if you can measure with accuracy. Do remember it may not have the same enhancing effect as you're used to getting from adderall, and may just make you jittery and a little confused. If 15-20mg doesn't do it for you and you're liking what it's doing, go with another 15-20mg and see how that does it.
Even if others have received a specific level of purity, that doesn't guarantee yours will follow suit -- so personally I think any other way of dosing in your situation would make it too easy to overdo it accidentally or otherwise end up with the opposite of what you wanted.
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Unless you're talking about a time-crunch kind of situation where you need it to work right within an hour, I'd say start at 15-20mg if you can measure with accuracy. Do remember it may not have the same enhancing effect as you're used to getting from adderall, and may just make you jittery and a little confused. If 15-20mg doesn't do it for you and you're liking what it's doing, go with another 15-20mg and see how that does it.
Even if others have received a specific level of purity, that doesn't guarantee yours will follow suit -- so personally I think any other way of dosing in your situation would make it too easy to overdo it accidentally or otherwise end up with the opposite of what you wanted.
Thanks SelfSovereignty. I wouldn't have expected such a small dose recommendation- are you assuming this to be insufflated? Would the amount required change much if I were to take it orally? I understand it to take longer for the effect but also that it will last a bit longer this way. I understand there are too many variables to provide any concrete answers so I appreciate the help.
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Intravenous use of amphetamines is the only proper way to do it ,other methods just wast too much of the product (unless you use it rectally ;) ).
I also think that most high % in sr are bullshit, those propably are at best 30% pure...
Clean amph is so powerful drug that most very very experienced users dont even have a clue (and od themselves to death if they find it) no matter what they say.
I wonder is there any sellers that would like me to evaluate their product by sending free sample (0.5g will do)? :D
Btw.i havent ordered anything from sr yet but will do so later, im in a need for a GOOD quality amphetamine provider (powder is what i prefer).
At the moment it looks kinda bad for your request of quality amphetamine, but there is hope as we wait for the return of Boymaster and CapeCrusader, both are/were cooks selling uncut amphetamines lab-tested at 90% and 80%. Additionally it is rumored that iisthisisi is offering some quality gear, but no lab-test yet.
And yes most % descriptions on sr are bs, its more likely the descriptions fit the caffeine content XD
After 6 months of practice with BM's gear I still manage to od myself, not necessarily resulting in death :).
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For the benefit of others
I have been using speed for years, read 15, so have a fairly good grasp of what is good and what is not.
I recently placed an order with Jalapeno for 25g. Upon testing I can confirm that it is the worst speed I have ever experienced, to be honest I do not even think it was speed.
None of the usual speed symptoms were present only a horrific MDMA / MXE feel, although it may not have been either.
I have contacted the vendor but have not had a reply, and have also noticed that his/her feedback rating has crashed from 98 when I ordered to around 78.
This vendor should be banned, not only are buyers not getting what they are paying for but could also be being put at danger, given the substance is not speed! - I have circa 23g remaining and if anyone would like some to test I am willing to provide for free, as I will not be taking any of it.
Avoid Jalapeno at all costs
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Usual "Sticky" updates.
Thanks to everyone for helping to flag scammers and rate good vendors.
GERMAN SELLERS
Jürgen : POLISH-SPEED: wet paste, loosing 35-40% of weight. IMO is OK (but cutted with coffeine). Juergen used to sell bad stuff at the beginning (except the medical grade was nice), in the last 5 months I received always the same product ordering polish speed, but some users reports he's a random scammer.
Powerade: wet paste, loosing 25% of weight, Old batch: Low % amphetamines but clean and cheap product // New Batch: increased quality (23.11.12), first feedbacks are very positive.
Rocketman: wet paste, loosing 25% of weight, stronger than Powerade even if costing almost 2x. Still, cannot be compared to CC or BM. Last batch seems less powerful. At the moment Out of Stock.
CaliKartell: New seller, ordered a sample, i'll update
jalapeno <<SCAMMER>> : Until further feedback, flagged as Scammer.
Proline: 20 % amphetamin and a lot of caffein, bad communication, not suggested until further feedbacks arrives.
Dagobert: Sometimes very poor quality, sometimes very good. It's like a lottery ;)
CrystalMethCat: was disappointed from his/her Meth, but Speed could be better? Anyone?
SuperTrips: A member did not received a big amount and got a full refund. Supertrips is a serious seller, still no feedback on his speed.
NON-German Sellers:
iisthisisi: currently offering meth, dl-amph and 30ish% speed. He is a legit seller.
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Thanks SelfSovereignty. I wouldn't have expected such a small dose recommendation- are you assuming this to be insufflated? Would the amount required change much if I were to take it orally? I understand it to take longer for the effect but also that it will last a bit longer this way. I understand there are too many variables to provide any concrete answers so I appreciate the help.
Start small and titrate your dose until you find one that fits you. I think 20mg (oral) sounds like a good starting point, it will probably be too weak a dose but better take too little than too much.
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mhm, sounds not good the speed situation in general.
I'm planning to order AH's 25g Amph....do you think it's an good idea?
Ive had some speed from AH and haven't had a bad feeling at all. The only thing to complain that the paste looses nearly 40%...
Anybody here who wouldn't buy from AH at this time?
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I wouldn't buy from AH if I were you.
Best luck is probably with Proline's new stronger batch.
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i ordered 30% amph 1g from iisthisisi . anyone had experience with him? second day it still says processing.
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I wouldn't buy from AH if I were you.
Best luck is probably with Proline's new stronger batch.
why wouldn't you buy from AH if you were me?
I thought about ordering from Powerade if AH isn't an good idea...
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I have some bad news. Anybody checked BoyMaster's feedback lately? It's... very not good. Personally, I don't think he's coming back and unless he shows up with his usual stellar reviews, I don't think I'll be buying anything from him even if he does come back. Just to keep everybody updated and prevent possible false hope and all -- check it out: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d186a7affd
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BM was definitely not correct with the last buyers it seems.
If he was not able to SEND because out of stock, it's a non sense he didn't give a 100% refund.
Future is still in the hands of CC.
Though, it seems powerade new batch is quiet OK for now, even if not such purity of CC.
@grdr: it seems you are the first with 30ish speed, though iisthisisi is a legit seller, therefore no need to worry. Let us know about quality when it will arrive
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BM was definitely not correct with the last buyers it seems.
If he was not able to SEND because out of stock, it's a non sense he didn't give a 100% refund.
Future is still in the hands of CC.
Though, it seems powerade new batch is quiet OK for now, even if not such purity of CC.
@grdr: it seems you are the first with 30ish speed, though iisthisisi is a legit seller, therefore no need to worry. Let us know about quality when it will arrive
I'm not big into amphs and i don't have scales but I'll try to do my best. I also IV amphet and take it basically for the rush from time to time.
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I tried iisthisisi's 30%, but I mixed it with the 72%. I'd say it really is as advertised, cut with PEA and nothing else. Comedown was really smooth compared to the latest adulterated stuff I had. I had one line and it kinda clogged my nose, but after a while it cleared completely. Could also be me having a slight cold. :)
Latest news: received mail from iisthisisi again. packaging improved, now at fartbomber-level(!). For those guys knowing his methods. If you don't, I consider it the best on SR. Ordered on weekend, received Wednesday morning. Very happy so far :)
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Just ordered some grams of PowerAde's new batch. If it arrives friday or saturday ( domestic ) i'm gonna test a bit and write a short review about it !
Greetings !
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Need to catch up some more, did anyone test the new PE gear yet?
Very quick next day review....Very strong, full on physical high and extremly heightened sensitivity...Old school speed at it's best and haven't had anything like it for a very very long time ..Took a couple of hours to come up fully and .2 dose is pushing the max to bomb in one go-Thanks Muslix for the timely warning! I wouldn't recommend Newbies to go for this but I love it ,although next day there is a Dexy comedown, which i had forgotton about.Would def.love to have more..
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I fully agree so far, especially with the heightened sensitivity! It's coming on really smooth and clean, don't mistake that for it not working! My advice would be: Make a break like helhazz for at least a week and bomb it (keep in mind though: twice as strong!). Should give you a Holy Fuck! kinda experience (quite literally as well ;D)
I got some of iisthisisi's dex and asked for a dl sample, which he kindly threw in. I'll try the dex next week, as I went straight to the dl over the weekend. It's fucking strong.
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The day after is fine enough. Once I got up (without dosing), there was just the usual hunger and I felt fine. I feel like it's more balanced than BM's and I prefer it. Maybe it's just my body type? It's slightly cheaper than BM's, too.
I worry this might be MFUK or someone else, but if it stays at this level, then I recommend it.
I actually agree with new guy! smooth comedown and well balanced (actually the exact word I used in private) effects. And it's not MFUK, luckily.
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An update on the dex. After a having an extremely pleasant day and possibly a little too much,It's 3days after and I've had the worst comedown ever from anything. I'm still not feeling quite right neither is mrs H, who has developed an allergic rash. Don't know what else is in there but I don't like. The really nice high just isn't worth the payback. Be careful. I won't be doing it again! :-\
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Rash is a common symptom of too much amphetamine though.
First paragraph:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a601234.html
Stay sober, maybe use light cortisone cream. I had this once, but went away after a few days of being sober.
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Pretty disappointed to see the way BoyMaster has blatantly lied/scammed people. Damn shame that vendor's have to go out like that :'(
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I tried iisthisisi's 30%, but I mixed it with the 72%. I'd say it really is as advertised, cut with PEA and nothing else. Comedown was really smooth compared to the latest adulterated stuff I had. I had one line and it kinda clogged my nose, but after a while it cleared completely. Could also be me having a slight cold. :)
Latest news: received mail from iisthisisi again. packaging improved, now at fartbomber-level(!). For those guys knowing his methods. If you don't, I consider it the best on SR. Ordered on weekend, received Wednesday morning. Very happy so far :)
where do you live ? where does he ship from? what is PEA ? and will I be ok with 1/10th of a gram IV ? I don't do speed often.
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Need to catch up some more, did anyone test the new PE gear yet?
Very quick next day review....Very strong, full on physical high and extremly heightened sensitivity...Old school speed at it's best and haven't had anything like it for a very very long time ..Took a couple of hours to come up fully and .2 dose is pushing the max to bomb in one go-Thanks Muslix for the timely warning! I wouldn't recommend Newbies to go for this but I love it ,although next day there is a Dexy comedown, which i had forgotton about.Would def.love to have more..
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I fully agree so far, especially with the heightened sensitivity! It's coming on really smooth and clean, don't mistake that for it not working! My advice would be: Make a break like helhazz for at least a week and bomb it (keep in mind though: twice as strong!). Should give you a Holy Fuck! kinda experience (quite literally as well ;D)
I got some of iisthisisi's dex and asked for a dl sample, which he kindly threw in. I'll try the dex next week, as I went straight to the dl over the weekend. It's fucking strong.
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The day after is fine enough. Once I got up (without dosing), there was just the usual hunger and I felt fine. I feel like it's more balanced than BM's and I prefer it. Maybe it's just my body type? It's slightly cheaper than BM's, too.
I worry this might be MFUK or someone else, but if it stays at this level, then I recommend it.
I actually agree with new guy! smooth comedown and well balanced (actually the exact word I used in private) effects. And it's not MFUK, luckily.
do you guys know what exactly is 30% amphetamine from ii ? and what is dexo ? and dl-amphetamine?
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I have some bad news. Anybody checked BoyMaster's feedback lately? It's... very not good. Personally, I don't think he's coming back and unless he shows up with his usual stellar reviews, I don't think I'll be buying anything from him even if he does come back. Just to keep everybody updated and prevent possible false hope and all -- check it out: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d186a7affd
You're the first one to bring it up, I was wondering how long it would take. Been following this for a while, indeed doesn't look good. Combined with the 0 information policy (i.e. not saying anything at all) it looks even worse.
It would be a shame to see him go. My only explanation: he underestimated the flood of people ordering after FUK was gone. Most vendors do. Let's hope he comes back, or at least keeps selling to me ;D, he has a money making machine after all. My paranoia ordering large amounts as at least tripled by now :'(
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Shortened versions of usernames are not very useful to new users... I would appreciate if full username is used or even coupled with a link to users profile.
Thank you in advance.
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Received the sample from Powerade, very generous so thanks for that :)
Dried it, lost about 25% weight, so little less than last batch and tried a cheeky line from scraping the bag out. Wasn't more than 30mg.
I can tell that this is definitely stronger than his last batch which is great :D
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Great news Knomo. So I did well for one time to follow my istinct and place various orders for other people. I shall receive it anytime soon as well.
I've received the KaliCartell sample too. Package was not surprising nor stealthy. White, dry powder, strong (but odd) smell, will try within this weekend and report.
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Going to try out Powerade and order 2 grams as soon as I can get back on SR. Any idea on shipping times to Canada guys?
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Received the sample from Powerade, very generous so thanks for that :)
Dried it, lost about 25% weight, so little less than last batch and tried a cheeky line from scraping the bag out. Wasn't more than 30mg.
I can tell that this is definitely stronger than his last batch which is great :D
I'll order some. i was tentative because it said paste and every paste i've tried it has lost half it's weight.
If you say it loseso nly 25% weight then I might be decent. ... but then again I have little trust for "sample" reviews at this point...
but probably way better than the other dutch stuff i ordered and the price is good if 25% weight loss only. hopefully this doesn't mean there's just more caffeine powder in there instead of the solvent shit.
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I have some bad news. Anybody checked BoyMaster's feedback lately? It's... very not good....
My only explanation: he underestimated the flood of people ordering after FUK was gone. Most vendors do. Let's hope he comes back, or at least keeps selling to me ;D, he has a money making machine after all. My paranoia ordering large amounts as at least tripled by now :'(
I got a response of 'I cannot give a specific time' when I inquired as to his return. His stuff is made of legend around here.
With regards to his feed back, I believe it is more likely that all the good feedback came first, leaving the bad feedback last. So now you have a few feedback pages of 'not received, scammer' etc. Which, sure does look bad. You have to bear in mind like Muslix said, there must have been a HUGE rush to get to him after MrFireUK went rogue. That, and we don't know whether he's a lone guy or a team, English clearly isn't his first language either so translation may take some time as-well as his own personal RL issues he must contend with... All of these factors and many more would negatively impact his performance and make him look like a bad guy.
If for example he was in constant production instead of 'waves', the bad feedback would be mingled in with the good, in which case it would be rare to see any bad feedback at all. He has given 50% refunds as-well. I don't think he's cut and run at all, What I think he's doing (Or what I would be doing in his situation) is clearing the negative fallout before starting up again. Out with the old, in with the new.
EDIT: I also felt a bit of sadness when One review I saw, a play on his name, suggested he was sitting around masturbating.
I appreciate you lost some money, but please, act like an adult if you're going to do drugs.
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Fingers crossed for the return of CC... he said he was going to have some listings up this week
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Fingers crossed for the return of CC... he said he was going to have some listings up this week
I heard CapeCrusader is on par to BM? How does his product come? As paste or powder? Some nice sulphate would be lovely, I'm not a fan of this paste.
I might just have to hold on to some BTC.
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The lab-test was from April. The description of the speed he was selling at that time included a nice story about how he convinced his mdma-cook to make pure amphetamine..
for me Juergen is in the same league as Aakhoven - never bought from him and never will ;D
march.. moz and i lab tested some stuff from sr and made them public on the forum - but that was more than 8 months ago!! i think no vendor on sr is able to offer the same quality of speed for almost a year, batches are different all the time. for example i ordered speed from aa long time ago and it was very bad quality (lab test proves that). last month i ordered speed from him again and it was TOP quality. nice white/yellowish paste, fresh and a bit wet, just some real decent speed. one of the best speed i received from sr.. maybe i can get it lab tested again.
it's really hard to find a speed vendor on sr with steady good quality, i had some in the past but either they stopped selling or just selling shit anymore. u need to sample speed from different vendors and test it yourself, if you like the stuff you received be fast and order bulk asap because if you wait some weeks or months i am sure you won't receive the same quality again.
i can get some of your stuff lab tested if you want to, but i think you will just be disappointed by the results.. :P
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What country does cc ship from?
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So that's, not promising... just checked his vendor page, and it doesn't even say anymore. I think CapeCrusader ships from the U.S., but I didn't catch him in time to get anything from him so I may be wrong.
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I liked CC's better than BM's stuff :)
And CapeCrusader ships from South Africa
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march.. moz and i lab tested some stuff from sr and made them public on the forum - but that was more than 8 months ago!! i think no vendor on sr is able to offer the same quality of speed for almost a year, batches are different all the time. for example i ordered speed from aa long time ago and it was very bad quality (lab test proves that). last month i ordered speed from him again and it was TOP quality. nice white/yellowish paste, fresh and a bit wet, just some real decent speed. one of the best speed i received from sr.. maybe i can get it lab tested again.
it's really hard to find a speed vendor on sr with steady good quality, i had some in the past but either they stopped selling or just selling shit anymore. u need to sample speed from different vendors and test it yourself, if you like the stuff you received be fast and order bulk asap because if you wait some weeks or months i am sure you won't receive the same quality again.
i can get some of your stuff lab tested if you want to, but i think you will just be disappointed by the results.. :P
lol, aakoven has no good speed. that's just impossible. the whole universe would come to an end if that were to happen. Maybe you are used to local stuff and think it's good now? As a fellow checkit-visitor I can assure you that this is not the case, your speed still sucks. You managed to avoid 8 months during which the best speed (pure, lab-tested) was sold on here. from a speed pov you missed the whole party!
+1 for being old school tho and writing SR history! noriega 999! ;D
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BM said he'd be back in 2013.
Probably when the money runs out ;)
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march.. moz and i lab tested some stuff from sr and made them public on the forum - but that was more than 8 months ago!! i think no vendor on sr is able to offer the same quality of speed for almost a year, batches are different all the time. for example i ordered speed from aa long time ago and it was very bad quality (lab test proves that). last month i ordered speed from him again and it was TOP quality. nice white/yellowish paste, fresh and a bit wet, just some real decent speed. one of the best speed i received from sr.. maybe i can get it lab tested again.
it's really hard to find a speed vendor on sr with steady good quality, i had some in the past but either they stopped selling or just selling shit anymore. u need to sample speed from different vendors and test it yourself, if you like the stuff you received be fast and order bulk asap because if you wait some weeks or months i am sure you won't receive the same quality again.
i can get some of your stuff lab tested if you want to, but i think you will just be disappointed by the results.. :P
lol, aakoven has no good speed. that's just impossible. the whole universe would come to an end if that were to happen. Maybe you are used to local stuff and think it's good now? As a fellow checkit-visitor I can assure you that this is not the case, your speed still sucks. You managed to avoid 8 months during which the best speed (pure, lab-tested) was sold on here. from a speed pov you missed the whole party!
+1 for being old school tho and writing SR history! noriega 999! ;D
ahmm.. what's exactly your problem?!^^ as i said i received high quality speed from aakoven last time, why can't you accept that? did you order speed from him recently or do you just say what others experienced? look at our last lab test we made public (which you claim to), i gave aa's sample to moz for testing and result was very bad. i knew that already before testing because i am very experienced with amphetamine, and know whats quality amphe and whats a wet caffeine mix;) after we make results public i get a lot of mad pm's from aa customers: that was not aa's speed .... aakovens speed is the best on sr and not cutted at all .... you tested some shit so you can bash aa now, and so on.. now, after i received speed from him again after a long time (hes not my guy for amphe, but for pills and that's why i sampled some of his speed last time) i was satisfied by the quality and just want to share my experience. so whats your problem? i know you don't like aa, u don't have to buy from him, but please accept serious reviews!
"Maybe you are used to local stuff and think it's good now?" deffo no! as said i am very experienced with amphetamines, and know whats good quality;) if you can't source decent speed locally it's your problem, i have local sellers which also offer high quality for much less than most vendors are charging on sr - mid eu;) but like i said, batches always differ, so if one is bad i will sample stuff from sr vendors to find decent stuff!
that was just my latest experience with aa's speed, and i want to share it with you because i know aa's speed was very disappointing in the past, so maybe you should give him a try if you want to.
"You managed to avoid 8 months during which the best speed (pure, lab-tested) was sold on here. from a speed pov you missed the whole party!" XD sry for having a live outside sr. i still know whats going on here, and also whats going on outside sr ;) where are those lab tests of the "pure" speed? if there are any, how old are these?
why don't you get your speed lab tested yourself?? please let me know which seller you think has the best quality ATM, i could talk to moz and maybe we will do some big lab testing again, just for the sr community :)
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Feedback on dagobert:
Very stealth package(!), 7days domestic, yellow speed paste. Heavy amphetamine smell. Paste is thick and does not look like it was drowned in liquid unlike pe's stuff. Decent speed, I got better effects from it than pe's product. 200mg is way enough for bombing, but I have not a very high tolerance (more than average though).
Feedback on pe:
FAST shipment, decent stealth. Underweight, liquid drips everywhere when you unlock the baggy. I think its cut with a lot of caffeine but it's ok to bomb. But I think at the moment dago's product is more potent, but havent tried the new batch though.
When I compare dago and pe, I would go with dago again IF its the same stuff. Willl buy some of pe new batch and will report again.
On a sidenote, anyone got a few tipps how to reduce sweating after taking stimulants? My armpits sometimes are dripping wet, changing tshirts 2-3 times a days can happen often when consuming. I think caffeine makes it worse, I try not to mix up coffee and amph, but sometimes I just forget about it.
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On a sidenote, anyone got a few tipps how to reduce sweating after taking stimulants? My armpits sometimes are dripping wet, changing tshirts 2-3 times a days can happen often when consuming. I think caffeine makes it worse, I try not to mix up coffee and amph, but sometimes I just forget about it.
i cant give you a good advice for the sweating problem, but its nothing to worry about. stimulants increase body temperature -> sweating. i know it can be annoying, but if you are in a club with +40°C air temp, where people dance to good music u wont be the only one sweating like crazy for sure. what is a party without sweating!? ;D dont mixing it with caffeine or other stimulant is a good idea, but also pretty hard to manage considering most of the speed out there is cut with caffeine. maybe a small dose of benzos could help, but it will also damp the amphetamine effects a bit.
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I agree on the sweating issue. It's like asking if there's anyway to stop smiling on good LSD. (lol)
I get really annoyed when speed is cut w/caffeine. I'm sure I've gotten good speed and it had a small percentage of caffeine, just not enough to notice and/or bother me.
Caffeine is in abundance at your local quickie-mart, so it's totally unnecessary. If us stimulant users were happy with caffeine we wouldn't be buying amphetamine.
I like PE's speed, and it has gotten a lot better with the new batch.
He's also got impeccable communications, and shipping stats.
It's amazing that PE can ship so many orders, and still be able to answer PM's without complaining that he gets too many.
As soon as I see "don't message me about stupid things, or things already on my profile, I don't have the time for that" - or something along those lines. I decide to go somewhere else.
That shows me you're a dick right off the bat. Some vendors and dealers in real life, get this "holier than thou" big head about themselves. It is a big turn off.
Also those initial shipments of PE that seemed like solvent leaked out. I believe he put rubbing alcohol in the shrink wrap, after sealing the baggie, for scent killing purposes. My first two orders seemed to be floating inside the shrink wrap. Maybe that was a way of deterring sniff dogs.
Dagoberts coke seemed full of speed, so I would imagine his speed is good.
I too was here for the last two months of Boymaster and his awesome speed. I believe that was August and September. Two very nice months
Keep up the sharing of info on speed dealers people. It's our only shopping guide. Can't go by feedback alone!
Thanks to all who participate here.
(edited to correct spelling errors+and add extra thoughts) - had to run my kid up to school.
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ahmm.. what's exactly your problem?!^^
wtf dude? you on coke or something? why so aggressive? I even gave you +1 lol
- aakoven's speed is shit, long established scam.
- has been lab-tested at 5% amphetamine (result in this thread, search!). worst speed on here.
- you are the first one on here saying his speed is good. There is no one else.
- aa admitted himself, when asked about his acid, that he doesn't care about quality. It's all about the $$$.
After that reply I gotta say you sound like a shill. I mentioned Noriega, aa was connected to Noriega on this forum, you provided the test result for Noriega. Holy coincidence! Is that what triggered the weird response?! :o
You are seriously advertising good ol' scam-AA as one of the best products on the road, when BM just sold (lab-tested at) 96% amphetamine sulphate? Are you kidding? You are stuck at 8 months ago.
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ahmm.. what's exactly your problem?!^^
wtf dude? you on coke or something? why so aggressive? I even gave you +1 lol
- aakoven's speed is shit, long established scam.
- has been lab-tested at 5% amphetamine (result in this thread, search!). worst speed on here.
- you are the first one on here saying his speed is good. There is no one else.
- aa admitted himself, when asked about his acid, that he doesn't care about quality. It's all about the $$$.
After that reply I gotta say you sound like a shill. I mentioned Noriega, aa was connected to Noriega on this forum, you provided the test result for Noriega. Holy coincidence! Is that what triggered the weird response?! :o
You are seriously advertising good ol' scam-AA as one of the best products on the road, when BM just sold (lab-tested at) 96% amphetamine sulphate? Are you kidding? You are stuck at 8 months ago.
aggressive..^^ why do you answer when you don't even read or understand my posts? what you wanna hear? "aakoven's speed is shit" yeah 99% agree, aa speed WAS shit for long time but the stuff i received this time was real quality amphetamine. sry man if you misunderstood my postings, i really don't wanna flame you but i don't get it why you cant accept my review of aakovens speed. please explain me why? can you proof his speed is still bad quality? i don't think so, because you didn't ordered from him recently..
i see you have a personal problem with aa, which i can understand if you received shitty stuff from him or got scammed or what ever. but that has nothing to do with the speed he is selling atm!!!!! so please accept my review. nobody says you have to buy from him, but maybe some other user are interested in this - thats a community for users sharing their experience with sr vendors. that was just mine, and believe it or not - maybe its better YOU don't because it doesnt seems you are interested in quality.
i already asked you before: where is the current lab test from your highly praised "pure" speed??
"I mentioned Noriega, aa was connected to Noriega on this forum, you provided the test result for Noriega" nice to see you read all my post, but whats the problem? as you can read in the thread the samples i gave moz for testing were from aakoven, dr.amsterdam and min. but for sure not from noriega, i didn't even know noriega and aa were connected!? but people like you are the problem: we did this tests and make them public to help sr customers to find decent stuff/vendors and keep them off from risking their health because of dangerous ingredients. many users appreciate that, but you are just a naysayer calling me a liar..
"You are seriously advertising good ol' scam-AA as one of the best products on the road, when BM just sold (lab-tested at) 96% amphetamine sulphate? Are you kidding? You are stuck at 8 months ago." WHERE are the lab tests? how old are these, any proof? why i am stuck at 8 months ago? as said, i have a live outside sr forum and sr is only one way i am doing business.
no more to say
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Lets try and be civil here guys! We're all in this together. Opinions aren't facts, and everyone is entitled to their own. Testing reports is another story, and even then, it is only "a story". You can put whatever stock in that posters story, by how much you trust them or not. I can understand if you feel someone is purposely putting up false info to help a vendor-friend, or could be the vendor himself!
Bottom line, take what advice you think is wise, ignore the rest. It is good to call out a phony if you're certain. Though once it goes past 4 posts of back and forth bickering, it becomes spam. You got that much of a beef with someone. Take it outside. ie: PM the person.
Less drama and more constructive reviews please! - (just a request-not telling anyone what to do) ;)
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Would just like to commend Powerade on another very speedy transaction, 2 working days EU. I will be sampling soon.
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"I mentioned Noriega, aa was connected to Noriega on this forum, you provided the test result for Noriega" nice to see you read all my post, but whats the problem? as you can read in the thread the samples i gave moz for testing were from aakoven, dr.amsterdam and min. but for sure not from noriega, i didn't even know noriega and aa were connected!? but people like you are the problem: we did this tests and make them public to help sr customers to find decent stuff/vendors and keep them off from risking their health because of dangerous ingredients. many users appreciate that, but you are just a naysayer calling me a liar..
"You are seriously advertising good ol' scam-AA as one of the best products on the road, when BM just sold (lab-tested at) 96% amphetamine sulphate? Are you kidding? You are stuck at 8 months ago." WHERE are the lab tests? how old are these, any proof? why i am stuck at 8 months ago? as said, i have a live outside sr forum and sr is only one way i am doing business.
no more to say
Why am I the problem? lol stop trolling please. You were not here. You have no idea who BM is. You don't know who where or when tested anything. You missed the last 6-8 months(?). 8 months ago 20% speed would have been the best speed in the history of SR. NOW you need 97% amphetamine sulphate to claim that. The 20% gear that was awesome 8 months ago, would be average to ok now. Is this really so hard to understand? If you didn't get any of the stuff being sold during late summer (the best by far in the history of SR) your definition of "good speed" will be skewed.
It's very kind of you to send moz30 to test for us. The problem is he won't have any opportunity this year anymore. On-site testing is sub-optimal anyway, way better are the stationary possibilities the Dutch, Swiss and Spanish guys have. You seem to assume that everything stopped here after the last lab-tests from moz30 and you are our savior bringing them back. Just not the case.
Regarding AA, what's your problem with me stating he is a scammer, he was temporarily banned already for it and his speed was always crap? AA has probably the worst rep anyone can possibly have regarding speed. You again just ignore the last 6 months (hence you are stuck 8 months ago, get it?) when his rep went down the toilette. The burden of proof is on you here, you claim his speed is "TOP quality" (that's not a review, that's advertising), but you can't even give a solid comparison to anything that has been sold on here recently. This is boring, you are annoying and I'm gonna end this. Just stop demanding proof like someone owes anything to you. No one will read the last 6 months of forum to you. No one will use the search function for you. Being lazy and just demanding shit is ... well annoying.
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anyone else finds PE new batch smelling a bit weird? Don't know how to describe it.....
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Dagoberts coke seemed full of speed, so I would imagine his speed is good.
Love the logic :)
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Received PE gears today. Very wet, lost more than 25% (from 5g to 3.4). I did a small line to test and effects are definitely noticeable. I confirm is stronger than previous batch. Compared to the price, I've absolutely no complains even if I lost more than 25% as expected. Fast shipping and stealthy.
Btw, we got a new seller from Slovenia : http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/5c9ae90d3c
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can somebody tell me what's the use of sending this wet shit? bm sent dry stuff , (and it worked quite well as we all know)- why them others not able to do same? :'(
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I suppose it's less time consuming for the seller (well, he could also let it dry a bit, but with all the running orders.. ^^)
Also paste is better for long-time conservation in freezer (ok, i doubt buyers intend to store it for over a year :P)
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Maybe a billion 1g orders were a bit too much to handle for BM's shipping boy?!
I propose: only sell 5 and up (;D), people will get inventive and organize 5 packs. Not all but no one needs all.
Every now and then, prepackage 100x1g, list them, watch them sell out in a day, ship next day, ask for FE or something. Quick (1g price = 35USD? *100) = 3.5k USD.
Mailing out a shitload of 1g as it was done before, is probably a pain in the ass and without a really good cover an additional security risk.
Everyone's happy. Problem solved. Don't sell straight ti the mass market, no one survived this yet. Or at least make a second account, so the regular buyers can still order ;D Formula probably needs some tweaking once active. Without access to any statistics: it should work.
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+1 for müslix formula.
1g is good to proove you got good gears. Then every speed-user knows 1g is (never) enough, 5g does the job and you have enough, both if you are a big consumer or casual ;)
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Hi dear friends. I've been following this 3d for a long time. I have been lucky to receive the first Mrk batch deep and clear.
I have also received mutch deeper power (immersion) of BM, so I decided to try iisthisisi. The shipping was very fast and i
took both 30 and 72. After read Muslix comments about, i decided to be very prudent. I took 10mg, and after 10 minutes the
cotton flakes did the magic. The day before i slept only for 4 hours, and the night after i slept only 2 hours, i woke up
at 4 am with an exceptional charge i went to work with another 5mg. concentration, precision and contest clear. All around
me was stable and ordinate. I walk 2 km under the rain without going wet. ...obviously i forgot the umbrella.
the best i have tried.
thanks mate.!
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anyone else finds PE new batch smelling a bit weird? Don't know how to describe it.....
Have you let the moisture or liquid evaporate? Can be done by just leaving the bag open in room temp for a while.
I taught it had a very mild and clean amphetamine taste and smell (after it had dried) compared to most other stuff ive tried. Similar to MFUK good batch, but that was stronger in taste, smell and noseburn.
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agreed, the taste is very gentle ;) I normally spread the paste over some clean A4 paper sheets for a few minutes and it get dried in 5 mins
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"I mentioned Noriega, aa was connected to Noriega on this forum, you provided the test result for Noriega" nice to see you read all my post, but whats the problem? as you can read in the thread the samples i gave moz for testing were from aakoven, dr.amsterdam and min. but for sure not from noriega, i didn't even know noriega and aa were connected!? but people like you are the problem: we did this tests and make them public to help sr customers to find decent stuff/vendors and keep them off from risking their health because of dangerous ingredients. many users appreciate that, but you are just a naysayer calling me a liar..
"You are seriously advertising good ol' scam-AA as one of the best products on the road, when BM just sold (lab-tested at) 96% amphetamine sulphate? Are you kidding? You are stuck at 8 months ago." WHERE are the lab tests? how old are these, any proof? why i am stuck at 8 months ago? as said, i have a live outside sr forum and sr is only one way i am doing business.
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Why am I the problem? lol stop trolling please. You were not here. You have no idea who BM is. You don't know who where or when tested anything. You missed the last 6-8 months(?). 8 months ago 20% speed would have been the best speed in the history of SR. NOW you need 97% amphetamine sulphate to claim that. The 20% gear that was awesome 8 months ago, would be average to ok now. Is this really so hard to understand? If you didn't get any of the stuff being sold during late summer (the best by far in the history of SR) your definition of "good speed" will be skewed.
It's very kind of you to send moz30 to test for us. The problem is he won't have any opportunity this year anymore. On-site testing is sub-optimal anyway, way better are the stationary possibilities the Dutch, Swiss and Spanish guys have. You seem to assume that everything stopped here after the last lab-tests from moz30 and you are our savior bringing them back. Just not the case.
Regarding AA, what's your problem with me stating he is a scammer, he was temporarily banned already for it and his speed was always crap? AA has probably the worst rep anyone can possibly have regarding speed. You again just ignore the last 6 months (hence you are stuck 8 months ago, get it?) when his rep went down the toilette. The burden of proof is on you here, you claim his speed is "TOP quality" (that's not a review, that's advertising), but you can't even give a solid comparison to anything that has been sold on here recently. This is boring, you are annoying and I'm gonna end this. Just stop demanding proof like someone owes anything to you. No one will read the last 6 months of forum to you. No one will use the search function for you. Being lazy and just demanding shit is ... well annoying.
first: as jagfug said let us be more civil here ;) i think we are all looking for the same: quality! what you mean with i was not here or dont know bm and my definition of "good speed" will be skewed? that are just lies. only because i didn't post that much last months? i was still here, talking to other users/vendors and doing some business. i am really not that dependent on sr like you seem to, i can also source good speed locally, because i am in middle europe there is pretty good stuff available most times. "Is this really so hard to understand?" yeah, because you always refer to the old lab tests made by moz which already become irrelevant because they are 8 months old and batches differ almost every time. just to say it again, i was on sr the whole time, and i know what was going on with aa ( checked his feedback from time to time). but i already said that in my previous posts.. how can you say 20% was the max back then? maybe some well-known vendors offered shitty stuff and a lot of their customers were pissed, but back then there were also many small nl vendors with a small customer stock offering top quality. you might just never heard of them because most have already left sr.
"You seem to assume that everything stopped here after the last lab-tests from moz30 and you are our savior bringing them back. Just not the case." that only makes me laugh.. be honest: whats your problem with me? what have I done to offend you that bad? you are saying that i assume that everything stopped here after last tests, but whats the idea behind your statements? i never said that, quite the contrary i said these tests are too old and wont prove anything. there are many new vendors since then and i also sampled speed of different vendors since then ::) it seems you don't read my posts and just wanna ask for trouble.
but lets drop the whole discussion, i cant see it going anywhere good. back to topic: do you know more than me, or why you say that moz wont have any opportunity to do lab test this year? it could be possible theres no drug checking event anymore this year, but i was confident there will be one at end of the year. where you got those infos? as for moz, i dont think he will doing these tests again respectively making them public here..
where are you located? is it possible for you to get drugs lab tested, if yes where? nl, swiss, check-it,..? i would love to do some lab testing again, maybe only speed?! for me its no problem to make these lab tests, uploading and posting the results shouldn't be that hard^^ i already have 3 speed vendors on sr i wanna test next time, but if you or any legit sr user are willing to spend some of their stuff for testing we will have a great overview of the quality sr vendors selling recently. i would also be open to spend small amounts of speed to some other legit user who could do this test. i just want a nice comparison of speed vendors here again (proved by lab test!) what do you think about that?
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The lab-test was from April. The description of the speed he was selling at that time included a nice story about how he convinced his mdma-cook to make pure amphetamine..
for me Juergen is in the same league as Aakhoven - never bought from him and never will ;D
march.. moz and i lab tested some stuff from sr and made them public on the forum - but that was more than 8 months ago!! i think no vendor on sr is able to offer the same quality of speed for almost a year, batches are different all the time. for example i ordered speed from aa long time ago and it was very bad quality (lab test proves that). last month i ordered speed from him again and it was TOP quality. nice white/yellowish paste, fresh and a bit wet, just some real decent speed. one of the best speed i received from sr.. maybe i can get it lab tested again.
it's really hard to find a speed vendor on sr with steady good quality, i had some in the past but either they stopped selling or just selling shit anymore. u need to sample speed from different vendors and test it yourself, if you like the stuff you received be fast and order bulk asap because if you wait some weeks or months i am sure you won't receive the same quality again.
i can get some of your stuff lab tested if you want to, but i think you will just be disappointed by the results.. :P
Never claimed the lab-test was made recently. For me meth is a no go drug like crack, if he would have said his speed contains meth I wouldn't have a problem with Juergen apart from him requesting everyone to FE and being a selective scammer ::).
TOP quality - nice white/yellowish paste, fresh and a bit wet.. this just a contradiction ;D
we love lab-test, the more the better!
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I suppose it's less time consuming for the seller (well, he could also let it dry a bit, but with all the running orders.. ^^)
Also paste is better for long-time conservation in freezer (ok, i doubt buyers intend to store it for over a year :P)
ehhhhhh, the vendors actually make amphetamines wet with solvents and add other crap to make more profit.. pure amphetamine like BM and CC were selling is a dry power - a salt to be precise, which can probably be stored in a dark and dry place for 100 years without losing potency.
About paste, I am not sure if it wouldn't be better to dry the solvents out as soon as possible..
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Also those initial shipments of PE that seemed like solvent leaked out. I believe he put rubbing alcohol in the shrink wrap, after sealing the baggie, for scent killing purposes. My first two orders seemed to be floating inside the shrink wrap. Maybe that was a way of deterring sniff dogs.
My package leaked heavily, after drying the outside of my baggie and inside the vacuum seal bag were coated in speed. I licked it all up, I hope yours didn't go in the bin.
I messaged Powerade in case they hadn't heard about it that morning about a dozen times already. They said the baggies were being squashed and leaking during the vacuum sealing process and they were trying to think of a solution. Are the new batches arriving intact?
Dagoberts coke seemed full of speed, so I would imagine his speed is good.
:D Well, it convinced me!
Keep up the sharing of info on speed dealers people. It's our only shopping guide. Can't go by feedback alone!
Quoted for truth.
On that note there's a new UK vendor "ruthenium" selling the holy dextro. Could someone with more money than suspicion do a review? I'd volunteer myself but I'm too poor and full of doubt.
Ruthenium: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f145e7325a.
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This ruthenium guy looks really promising. Would be a sick great deal, if the product was as advertised. Let's hope the best.
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How have Australian buyers gone getting stuff from powerade?
Been two weeks now, coming up to resolve/auto-finalise... I'll probably just finalised anyway. It's only 20 bucks and I can't really be fucked going through any further process or hurting my buyer stats....
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Been two weeks now, coming up to resolve/auto-finalise... I'll probably just finalised anyway. It's only 20 bucks and I can't really be fucked going through any further process or hurting my buyer stats....
Click resolve, select extension, enter how many extra days you would like to wait. This won't affect your stats, you can always finalize..
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How have Australian buyers gone getting stuff from powerade?
Been two weeks now, coming up to resolve/auto-finalise... I'll probably just finalised anyway. It's only 20 bucks and I can't really be fucked going through any further process or hurting my buyer stats....
2 weeks isn't that late. My 1st order to US came in a week. The 2nd took a little over 2 weeks, with two weekends inbetween. He's so far been great. I even had a 2g ord get lost, then my 5g one came. I told him, he got right back to me, and said "please let me know whether it comes or not, and we'll work something out.
I'd say, if it's not there Saturday (assuming there is Saturday mail delivery "down under", drop him a line, be friendly, like "so it's been over 2 weeks, think it's lost?" - So far Powerade has shown nothing but the best vendor qualities in SR. Communication excellent and friendly. Even though I have a 2g missing, I already put in an order for more. Actually, the quality and overweight 5.5 gram order, I would have paid the price of both orders, just for that one.
Now he has even better strength speed. I'll keep ordering. I even told him, if it's lost it's lost. If he want's to split it 50/50, through an extra gram in my next order.
Hang in there, and don't be bashful about contacting him. One of the most polite gentleman vendors on SR.
The biggest turn of is a Vendor who takes their time answering messages. OR one who states on their profile that they don't want unnecessary messages. If you feel it's necessary, then it is.
This may be a black market site, but customer service is the name of the game. Talk to Powerade. He'll see to it that you don't go away dissatisfied. - I stake my name it!
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I'm still waiting on two powerade orders to aus after 21 days.
I ordered two separate letters at the same time. As i haven't received either i suspect it's simply a hold up in the mail.
Can anyone comment on the quality of PE's early packaging?
I don't suspect anything is amiss with PE, he has been excellent to deal with and all his other feedback is good.
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Bought some of Powerade's speed (2nd batch) on Sunday night, it arrived in 3 days to the UK. Packaging was good, you would have to unpack the whole envelope to find anything.
It's my first time with speed and I purchased for studying purposes + some all nighters, the price was much more attractive than adderall or some other prescription
I got 0.5g and laid it out to dry, took 5 minutes at most, and the made a bomb from about 1/7th of the powder (I didn't weigh it due to having no scales)
Had the bomb and am now feeling incredibly productive, a little bit twitchy and full of energy but it's totally manageable.
I have no other experiences to compare this with but so far this speed seems to be doing the job fantastically.
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Powerade also has his own forum page, which he seems to go on on daily. Check that, and his profile which he updates every few days. Unlike some Vendors, that have "Special deal for October" still on their page.
Also, it seems Australia has been very pro-active in screening suspected SR orders. Wasn't there a lot of news stories in the past year? I saw one on youtube.
I hope it gets to you guys. I also recommend to all Vendors, to use Christmas themes on all packages/parcels/letters. - You know, like "Do not open till Christmas"
Merry Christmas from Germany! Etc. This time of year, all post offices around the world are inundated with Christmas deliveries. I say if it's shipped that way, they wont even bother. If you have 40 letters/parcels with Christmas stickers on them, and one that looks very plain, the very plain looking one will stand out.
Take advantage of the season ! ! !
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Also, it seems Australia has been very pro-active in screening suspected SR orders. Wasn't there a lot of news stories in the past year? I saw one on youtube.
potentially... i'm not too experienced in the whole thing but looking at it there seemed to be a bit of an increase in confiscations early to mid year this one, but i think a lot of dickhead ozzies took advantage of that situation to try and scam sellers. there's quite a few who won't sell to australia now (dutchanbod).... seems like a bit of combination of customs and dickheads.
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Just ordered 1g
Dextroamphetamine Sulphate, >96.7%
from ruthenium.
Will keep you updated.
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I'm a first time buyer/user of speed and also of SR.
I ordered 5g from PE to Canada and took 6 days to get here.
It's speed, it gets you high, there are plenty of reviews on him if you care.
I'd like to share my fuck ups with you newcomers so you don't have to go through the stress i did.
1. DOUBLE TRIPLE QUADRUPLE check the address before you hit order!
I forgot to add the room number to the apartment complex I was having it shipped to and I might have got into serious trouble if it fell into the wrong hands with my name on it. Lucky, I bought some Val about 35 mins later, and while I was writing the address down (properly) I had an anti Déja-Vu moment. Some how I knew right away what i missed and message PE and he answered in less then a minute and said that the package was being shipped at that moment but he manage to save my dumb ass and fix it before being delivered. <3 PE
2. THE SOLVENT MAKES YOU THROW-UP?? or skip the horrible written boring story to help me out.
SIX days later i got the package and opened it like a little boy on Christmas morning. The paste wasn't exactly what i thought it would be like, (i imagined more clay like), but i continued to cut the bags open and scraped in onto a glass plate like Ive read to do so many times before. I had no concept of time as I sat there trying to get every ug (micro gram) of slop, morphing powder, onto the plate as if it would be ruined drying in the bag. It was about 8 on weekday, and I knew that if i tried it out I wouldn't sleep well, but when some suddenly fell on my fingers I got the impulses to snort it up and continued on. About 5 minutes later, I felt a buzz coming, 10 minutes later I started to feel some slight nausea. No big deal, I thought I read somewhere that its common. It got worse and I soon found myself throwing up in a bucket that I left sitting in my room for 7 hours, cause I felt it would be weird to be seen emptying a bucket of puke 15 minutes after having a normal conversation with someone. As much as this is meant to be a warning story/lesson, I myself don't know what caused the sickness so I cant tell you what to avoid doing. My best guess is I inhaled the to much of the solvent (googling.........) sulfate (or should it be sulfite)? All i know is there is nothing wrong with the dried powder. Working like a charm ;)
IF YOU HAVE EVER HEARD A SIMILAR STORY RESPOND
Short version:
Got super sick while unpackaging and drying PE's speed. Tried a tiny bit at the time, but Ive had four 5mg-ish doses (water) since, so i doubt it the drug. any info helps THX
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Re: Buyers Review on Speed/Amphetamine Vendors esp.Quality
« Reply #3149 on: November 30, 2012, 12:49 PM »
Bought some of Powerade's speed (2nd batch) on Sunday night, it arrived in 3 days to the UK. Packaging was good, you would have to unpack the whole envelope to find anything.
It's my first time with speed and I purchased for studying purposes + some all nighters, the price was much more attractive than adderall or some other prescription
I got 0.5g and laid it out to dry, took 5 minutes at most, and the made a bomb from about 1/7th of the powder (I didn't weigh it due to having no scales)
Had the bomb and am now feeling incredibly productive, a little bit twitchy and full of energy but it's totally manageable.
I have no other experiences to compare this with but so far this speed seems to be doing the job fantastically.
Hi dear.
If you must study, try this product. d-l.72% silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/58fc25324c
I'm a professional student. I tried many products ,among wich the first batch of PD. If you use it for study i think it's the best [dextro]. ;)
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Received the first batch from Powerade. Packaging and shipping time great. The liquid did bleed out, but had a vac seal that worked thank goodness. It would be helpful to ship/receive less worthless weight, lost 40% (I really dried it out) fluid weight and would estimate ~30% purity. Took x3 what I would normally take for BM, MrF, and CC and kind of got there. Felt great euphoria, good mental acuity, effective social interaction and wakefulness for 8 hours. No shakes or anxiety, which I can get with BM/CC on occasion; probably because of the high does.
Simon and Marquis Reagents checked out for amphetamine. No methamphetamine.
Sounds like PA is already purifying his stock, which is promising. Good old dry, pure amphetamine is all I am interested in. Seems like he has depth to his stock, not cutting with shitty active drugs, has great feeling amphetamine, and is a really nice vendor in general to talk too. I will definitely order again if the purity is increased. I would much rather get 5 grams of dried pure amphetamine sent in the mail versus 30% pure 25 grams wet......especially with the risk of being found goes up with the size/weight of the package. Just my .02btc. ;D ;D ;D
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I'm a professional student.
lol ;D I am too! I even study when I don't have to!
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Joy is..
when a friend of you goes to holiday and he drops in your mailbox 1g of BM stuff because he doesn't need it during the vacation :D :D :D
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MFUK
haha that account still makes me laugh. It (unintentionally?) made everything obvious. Failson!
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dl-amp review. Better known as Benzedrine I think,and the original speed.After the unpleasant time on a 2 day comedown from the dex-amp was a bit cautious with the dl.
Took Muslix lead and cut 2.5g into three.
Bombed first and after 2hrs felt a slight buzz with increased attention but no body load.
Bombed second after about 3hrs which came on slowly after another couple of hours and followed with third as didn't think it was quite there......
Taken about 7-8hrs didn't notice coming up and was taken by surprise to be 'speeding of my tits' but without the rushing about and house cleaning effect of amp ,very alert,feeling edgy and not sure if I like the buzz....like really good Amp without the body rush.
24hrs after first bomb still wide awake..no euphoria or tweak just awake !!
Great for study..not so good to party
Think I'll stick to Amp in future
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Just ordered 1g
Dextroamphetamine Sulphate, >96.7%
from ruthenium.
Will keep you updated.
Great _0_ That stuff looks really awesome, it's just so damn expensive :(
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Took Muslix lead and cut 2.5g into three.
You cut 2.5g into 3? :) That would be quite something even for your standards. ;D
Take some extra days for the next gear, sounds like the dex has had quite some impact on DA. Let the DA recover fully for best effects.
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Hi its me, im back from my 2 month break if anybody remembers me. its still kinda soon for me, i shouldnt actually be doing speed... its just so dirty and i dont want to destroy my body, but i just cant help myself sometimes. im def not gonna be doing it every day, even twice a week is already too much i think, i really need to cut down.
anyway, i heard mrfireuk turned into a scammer which is a shame coz his gear is really comfortable. i dont know what happened to boymaster but his ratings plummetted and hes got only bad reviews idk whats up with him and i never see any listings up for capecrusader who i still havent bought from.
whats going on? wheres the dealers selling >95% pure gear?
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whats going on? wheres the dealers selling >95% pure gear?
We're currently in limbo waiting for a vendor with good gear to surface. Powerade seems like he may become that vendor if he keeps getting higher quality stuff. I should get some from him this week and I can't wait.
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Welcome Back Raven. Good choice, i'm doing the same more or less ;)
Out of luck for now. but here an update for you:
GERMAN SELLERS
Jürgen : POLISH-SPEED: wet paste, loosing 35-40% of weight. IMO is OK (but cutted with coffeine). Juergen used to sell bad stuff at the beginning (except the medical grade was nice), in the last 5 months I received always the same product ordering polish speed, but some users reports he's a random scammer.
Powerade: wet paste, loosing 25% of weight, Old batch: Low % amphetamines but clean and cheap product // New Batch: increased quality (23.11.12), first feedbacks are very positive.
Rocketman: wet paste, loosing 25% of weight, stronger than Powerade even if costing almost 2x. Still, cannot be compared to CC or BM. Last batch seems less powerful. At the moment Out of Stock.
CaliKartell: Received the sample, smells strange. tried 150mg, nothing special. Will update again later..
jalapeno <<SCAMMER>> : Until further feedback, flagged as Scammer.
Proline: 20 % amphetamin and a lot of caffein, bad communication, not suggested until further feedbacks arrives.
Dagobert: Sometimes very poor quality, sometimes very good. It's like a lottery ;)
CrystalMethCat: was disappointed from his/her Meth, but Speed could be better? Anyone?
SuperTrips: A member did not received a big amount and got a full refund. Supertrips is a serious seller, still no feedback on his speed.
NON-German Sellers:
iisthisisi: currently offering meth, dl-amph 72% and 30ish% speed. He is a legit seller.
ruthenium: 96.7 dextro. I've ordered 1g, will update
The way to go now is Powerede if you want clean/decent gears and a good price.
iisthisisi very communicative and trusted seller, but no amph sulphate with the % you are looking for.
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NON-German Sellers:
iisthisisi: currently offering meth, dl-amph 72% and 30ish% speed. He is a legit seller.
ruthenium: 96.7 dextro. I've ordered 1g, will update
couple questions please anyone:
Do I have shit mixed up, or doesn't dl-amph just mean racemic mix - which would be normal amphetamine? so when talking of amphetamine isn't it already the assumption that you're talking about dl-amph? Did I miss the part of the thread when iisthisisi first put up the listing? Sorry.
Do people generally agree with the summary from hellwind that Powerade's is best bet, better than 72% iisthisisi
Just interested - I've already placed my bets.
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could someone explain how does dl-amph differ from regular speed?
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dl-amph is regular speed. The dl stands for dextro levo. These terms represent the rotation of the chiral carbon in the molecule.
This product is almost always made from phenyl-2-propanone. This yields the racemic molecule.
For further details about chiral carbons and stuff, visit Wiki.
Or acs.pubs if you have access to them.
Dextro is made from the HI/P reduction of pseudonorephedrine.
Because this substance does already have the chiral carbon in the right rotation, all you need to do is kick that bloody OH on the alpha carbon and you have the dextro.
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dl-amph is regular speed. The dl stands for dextro levo. These terms represent the rotation of the chiral carbon in the molecule.
This product is almost always made from phenyl-2-propanone. This yields the racemic molecule.
For further details about chiral carbons and stuff, visit Wiki.
Or acs.pubs if you have access to them.
Dextro is made from the HI/P reduction of pseudonorephedrine.
Because this substance does already have the chiral carbon in the right rotation, all you need to do is kick that bloody OH on the alpha carbon and you have the dextro.
I sense an opportunity for a lesson: why exactly does the pseudonorephedrine have only the one and not the other, when I'd expect any process that reduced (whatever it was) to pseudonorephedrine would leave you with 50/50 -- statistical probabilities and all? I mean what drives the imbalance toward one side? Or is it just a matter of separating post-reduction? (unless it's made via synth... but, that wouldn't make financial sense... yes? No?)
C'mon, Muslix. You too. I know you've got a touch of patience I can squeeze out of you, don't you? ;)
Edit: please do bear in mind that a good teacher is invaluable -- Google and all that are the pinnacle of human civilization, but someone that can really convey knowledge well is invaluable -- hence my questioning of someone who apparently can. I don't mean to try and make you do my learning for me, please don't take it that way.
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Hopefully you all enjoyed the weekend?
Pls tell me, from which country does Powerade send, and how long do his shippings usually take?
thx4info.
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Hi buddies
I have been away for more than two months so I didn't had the possibility to even login into SR. I want to apologize for the problems with the last batch of orders which didn't arrive, or directly were not even shipped. I left a responsible person for that work, but obviously, he was unable to manage the situation... :-[
I'm sorry to communicate you that there won't be good amph in SR before christmas. After that, everything will come back to normality, as always.
;D
Cheers
BM
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I left a responsible person for that work, but obviously, he was unable to manage the situation... :-[
Welcome back!
I hope you're in the process of sorting out 100% refunds for those packages that were never sent.
I'm not affected myself but it seems like the decent thing to do.
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Recieved from PE to Aus after 25 days.
Postage times seem hit and miss as some feedback say 7-8 business days to Aus.
Stealth was sufficient, however as others have said the speed did leak out of the baggie into the vac seal. This is an issue for longer postage times.
Overall pleased with the purchase and the vendor - product seems decent, priced well and I think PE is willing to learn/improve. Will order again.
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OMG Breaking news!!! :D
Welcome back BM, we miss you (and your gears :P) so much. Shame that i'm going to take a break with the new year for a few months, but i'll definitely order a big package to store in the freezer for later use.. :D
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Hopefully you all enjoyed the weekend?
Pls tell me, from which country does Powerade send, and how long do his shippings usually take?
thx4info.
He sends from Germany in really unsuspicios regular envelope. shipping-time depends on where you live. My domestic order made it in one day!
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ordered 1 g from ruthenium, cashmachine, evilution and afghanapothecary. will update
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Hopefully you all enjoyed the weekend?
Pls tell me, from which country does Powerade send, and how long do his shippings usually take?
thx4info.
He sends from Germany in really unsuspicios regular envelope. shipping-time depends on where you live. My domestic order made it in one day!
soundz great, mate - thx4ThatInfo!
And you are satisfied with his stuff so far?
I´m asking because maybe I want to give his gear a try...
Is his offer really exactly what it promises?
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I left a responsible person for that work, but obviously, he was unable to manage the situation... :-[
I hope you're in the process of sorting out 100% refunds for those packages that were never sent.
I'm not affected myself but it seems like the decent thing to do.
It would be the decent thing to do indeed. But who sorts out the people who took advantage of the situation and claimed it didn't arrive?
How should I put it? http://i.qkme.me/3r5kpw.jpg ;D ;D
I hate to be THAT guy, but since I wasn't affected either... 8) I still would prefer some EMS shipping for Europe with tracking'n shit to help with my paranoia :P
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dl-amph is regular speed. The dl stands for dextro levo. These terms represent the rotation of the chiral carbon in the molecule.
This product is almost always made from phenyl-2-propanone. This yields the racemic molecule.
For further details about chiral carbons and stuff, visit Wiki.
Or acs.pubs if you have access to them.
Dextro is made from the HI/P reduction of pseudonorephedrine.
Because this substance does already have the chiral carbon in the right rotation, all you need to do is kick that bloody OH on the alpha carbon and you have the dextro.
Thank you for the explanation - it is as I thought. I assume then that the only reason you labelled your 72% batch like that is to differentiate it from the dextro listing you had up previously.
Look forward to receiving my order!
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i come back and complain once and suddenly boymaster comes back too. i must be magic or smthng...
im kinda tired of always having to research on the forums. i think ill just buy bulk this time and stock up. hopefully itll last me a looooong time (this time for REAL!) by really cutting down on my use. lets see those 98%-pure-for-a-fair-price-listings again bmaster! :3
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what was the purity and price of BM's last batch?
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Hopefully you all enjoyed the weekend?
Pls tell me, from which country does Powerade send, and how long do his shippings usually take?
thx4info.
He sends from Germany in really unsuspicios regular envelope. shipping-time depends on where you live. My domestic order made it in one day!
soundz great, mate - thx4ThatInfo!
And you are satisfied with his stuff so far?
I´m asking because maybe I want to give his gear a try...
Is his offer really exactly what it promises?
I think it is. I'm satisfied, especially the quality/price ratio is good. The second batch is much stronger than the previous one.
Go ahead order some, you won't be disappointed at all =)
Cheers!
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1st of all, he's on vacation until the 5th (Wednesday), secondly, please don't give away any details about how a vendor packages their orders! I believe Powerade posted that very info on his profile, which I advised he take down. I wouldn't even tell someone in a PM how it was packaged. That buyer could very well be LE. -
Powerade is an awesome vendor. I hope to prolong that standing. One way we can all help to keep good sellers like him, is to remember some of these points. Never disclose how package came.
Not bitching, or trying to put anyone down. Just giving some experienced advice that will keep this road smooth, and pothole free, if you know what I mean.,
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So with Powerade on vacation. Anybody know a good alternate if one wants to order tonight?? (this morning for some of you). - Preferably one that ships to US. Preferably not from the NL.
Nothing against NL. Most of them already know, the mail between NL+US is heavily scrutinized, and usually there's no seizure letter, so it looks as if one side is being dishonest, meanwhile it's most likely a postal worker on NL or US side, that loves to steal our shit. Either way, NL to US is not advisable, and you'll find many a NL speed Vendor that has (No shipping to USA)..
I went through it with FM, and he shipped a 2nd order, which didn't make it. I just let it go, and kept both of our stats good, because it was obvious he's an honest Vendor.
So again I ask. Any good speed for us Yanks???
Let's get some good leads up on this forum. That is what the topic is after all.
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I ordered 2 grams from Powerade on Wed Nov 26 mid day, and my order arrived in Canada today. So 5 days to Canada INCLUDING a weekend. Damn!
My package had the same problem as others, with the ziplock bag leaking into the vac seal. None leaked out at all. I cut up the baggie and scraped everything onto a piece of paper and let it dry. Didn't take much time at all. Smells like speed, looks clean. In fact it looks and smells just like the last order from MFUK. I only ended up getting 1.10grams after drying though. There may be another 50-75mg to scrape out of the bag though.
I will be trying it first thing in the am! I'm a little disappointed I only got 1.1grams from it, but it was very cheap, and got here fucking quick. I'll update tomorrow when I take it. Probably 30-50mg and another dose in my pocket.
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I received a 200mg sample of amphetamine paste from MaxHavelaar who is located in Germany. The shipping took about 10 days to arrive here in the U.S.
This was an amphetamine paste sample, but Max had already dried it out and it was an appropriate consistency for insufflation. The 200 mg were split between me and a friend with a starting dose of about 25mg. Ultimately, we ended up re dosing throughout the night until the sample disappeared.
Regarding the quality: The euphoria was exceptional. At times, I could feel rushes throughout my body....We also cleaned the whole house :) Wasn't able to sleep until the next night.
I would order more of this paste from Maxhavelaar again.
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I received a 200mg sample of amphetamine paste from MaxHavelaar who is located in Germany. The shipping took about 10 days to arrive here in the U.S.
This was an amphetamine paste sample, but Max had already dried it out and it was an appropriate consistency for insufflation. The 200 mg were split between me and a friend with a starting dose of about 25mg. Ultimately, we ended up re dosing throughout the night until the sample disappeared.
Regarding the quality: The euphoria was exceptional. At times, I could feel rushes throughout my body....We also cleaned the whole house :) Wasn't able to sleep until the next night.
I would order more of this paste from Maxhavelaar again.
I was all exited about Maxhavelaar then I saw on his profile he does NOT ship frop Germany, he ships from NL (Netherlands). - Also he has little faith in shipping to America or Australia for that matter.
Most likely it's the NL-US connection. US customs sees anything from NL, and they think "What is the Netherlands famous for? Dope. Drugs, you name it". Amsterdam etc.
I'll double check with the Vendor, but it says right on his listings "Ships from Netherlands"
I don't know where you got Germany from. Anyone else have a suggestion for good speed shipped to US from other than NL?
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Also ordered 2g from maxhavelaar. He seems to make a point of being right (as in proper sorted) :) and his speed sounds yummilicious
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Powerade is an awesome vendor. I hope to prolong that standing. One way we can all help to keep good sellers like him, is to remember some of these points. Never disclose how package came.
Not bitching, or trying to put anyone down. Just giving some experienced advice that will keep this road smooth, and pothole free, if you know what I mean.,
Thanks for the advice mate! But don't worry he is not going anywhere anytime soon. (;D)
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I just received Powerade's gear yesterday, I ordered 3 grams and in came in two(?) baggies, so I'm not sure if I got all three grams..But after drying it out, I was left with 1.7 grams, which is not bad considering the price. I have to take a bit more than BM's speed, but it burns a lot less and is a lot more white (Whereas BM's was almost a bit orange/tan). The Marquis reaction is not as strong as BM's either, but tested positive for Amphetamine none-the-less.
I took a picture of the Marquis test (On the left) and the Simon's test (No reaction, on the right). Hope someone finds this useful.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=a982ff4aac90f55ef80f1f5d8f0c7aab.gif
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any speed manufacturers i would need your help if you can please PM me.
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Hi there, first time buyer/poster here.
I got 5gr from PremiumDutch witch should be 60% pure. Product arrived one day after shipment and is pretty wet on arrival. I brought a sample to a lab for testing so I will report back when I get the results (should be about two weeks).
One thing that amazes me, it seems that everyone seems to be okay with getting wet speed and ending up with half the weight in dry product. What's up with that? I've been away from the speed game for years and just made my second buy (first on SR) but I used to buy my speed dry a couple years back. Selling wet speed is just a weight scam, no?
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Hi! I have been reading this forum for a while, but this is my first post.
I live in the UK. I'm 100% sure I have ADHD, but the diagnosis process is so frustrating (the NHS way is taking forever, the private way is way too expensive for my budget), and also amphetamine-besed medications are not available (or very difficult/expensive to get).
So, I have decided, that I am gonna walk my own way. Buying Adderall/Dexedrine from SR is just ridiculously expensive, so I am thinking about making my 5mg dextroamphetamine caps, if rhodium's gear is legit. Or, obviously if there is a vendor with very high potency 'regular speed' I am willing to use that. The key is the purity, so I can measure my own sh*t kinda properly.
I know that currently no one has a listing with proven 90%+ purity, but I am patient, I can wait. However, I have some questions regarding my evil self-medication plan.
I am willing to buy 'bulk' from something that is good enough and make my supply for a long time ahead... That would mean 5 - 30 mg caps depending on the amph. type/purity, but... How can I properly measure this weight and put them in caps? I did some google search and some ppl say it's advisable to invest in a £200+ 0,001 measure for accuracy... Is that true? Or can I go with a cheaper one? Also, how can I fill 100+ caps with the same amount other, than one-by-one?
I saw some forums recommending water solution for some steroids... Is that possible with amph? How would you do that if so?
Please keep in mind, that I want to use this strictly for medical purposes. I don't want to chase a high, or develop tolerance or fuck myself up, so I really want to stick to the medically approved dosage.
What are your thoughts on this? In general? Is there anyone doing something similar? Any thoughts/advice would be highly appreciated.
Thank you.
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what was the purity and price of BM's last batch?
anyone?
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Just received a batch of speed paste from AfghanApothecary. Was going cheap, had a bit of left over BTC, so why not? Took just on 10 working days to get to southern hemishepere. Was not vacuum sealed.... just in 2 baggies. Product is a tan colour with a pink-ish tinge, but not visually 'wet'. Haven't tried it, but I'm erring to not bother drying it out and just mixing it in my drinks next time I go out.
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anyone tried six6one?
I'm 100% sure I have ADHD
me too. I have every medical condition that needs to be treated with speed ;D
what was the purity and price of BM's last batch?
anyone?
purity = pure, price = high.
hth
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jjshield- you can get a pill capper but I just use a mg scale and cap them individually.
I weigh out how much I want on the scale, scrape it up with 1 end of the capsule, and cap it. +- 1mg of amphetamine will make no difference. Takes no more than 20 seconds per cap. If you do a whole weeks supply it would only take a minute.
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Hi there, first time buyer/poster here.
I got 5gr from PremiumDutch witch should be 60% pure. Product arrived one day after shipment and is pretty wet on arrival. I brought a sample to a lab for testing so I will report back when I get the results (should be about two weeks).
One thing that amazes me, it seems that everyone seems to be okay with getting wet speed and ending up with half the weight in dry product. What's up with that? I've been away from the speed game for years and just made my second buy (first on SR) but I used to buy my speed dry a couple years back. Selling wet speed is just a weight scam, no?
I'm not positive of the "why" when it comes to shipping still wet, I've thought that it was just faster than waiting, once the processing was done. Also, when the Vendor tells you flat out, that it's arriving wet and will dry out to 30% less, that's pretty, "non-scammy" if you ask me.
PE baggie seems like it's got Isopropyl (rubbingg( alchohol) between layers, to through off the doggies. That's just a hunch.
A lot of times the already dried out shit seems easier to "cut" to me. Then again I don't weight and test everything like the weights and standards division of SR here. Just poking a joke there, I "should" get a scale, and "should" buy a test kit every now and then. I'm 50, and have a pretty good test kit in my nose.
Just an old fart drug addict I guess. - Acutally thought I hated speed, till a doctor gave mer adderall for depression that hadn't responded to 20 different SSRI's in the past 10 years, and "IT WORKED!!"
Keep the good reports coming. Check out Evilution. I'm putting in a 1g order to try out. Already a 5 on communication. Has great stats.
OK, later people!
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anyone tried six6one?
I got some on the way :)
Also.... Look what I just saw.... :D
CapeCrusader
send a message
has been a member for 4 months
was last seen: today
has 100% positive feedback
Is it the return? 8)
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anyone tried six6one?
I got some on the way :)
Also.... Look what I just saw.... :D
CapeCrusader
send a message
has been a member for 4 months
was last seen: today
has 100% positive feedback
Is it the return? 8)
my loins are rather frothy at the thought of CC's return
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Just received a batch of speed paste from AfghanApothecary. Was going cheap, had a bit of left over BTC, so why not? Took just on 10 working days to get to southern hemishepere. Was not vacuum sealed.... just in 2 baggies. Product is a tan colour with a pink-ish tinge, but not visually 'wet'. Haven't tried it, but I'm erring to not bother drying it out and just mixing it in my drinks next time I go out.
AA is a lovely person but honestly the order I got from him was very very low quality. Not only that, it was cut with something that made snorting nothing short of painful. It was yellow, and had an acidic smell. I'll leave it at that.
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Would just like to put in a quick word for Powerades second batch. as I had commented somewhat negatively on the first.
Huge improvement here, higher potency, fairly easy on the nose (though I tend to swallow capsules). Extremely fast shipping again (2 working days EU-EU) and packaging acceptable.
First bomb took me a bit by surprise and I was reaching for the xanax 10 hours later at bed time.
Would happily order again.
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Is it the return? 8)
Please let this be true. I'm already getting coins into SR just to be prepared.
I only have three 20mg caps filled with BM's stuff left. Waiting for a 50mg dextro sample from ruthenium.
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Hi there, first time buyer/poster here.
I got 5gr from PremiumDutch witch should be 60% pure. Product arrived one day after shipment and is pretty wet on arrival. I brought a sample to a lab for testing so I will report back when I get the results (should be about two weeks).
One thing that amazes me, it seems that everyone seems to be okay with getting wet speed and ending up with half the weight in dry product. What's up with that? I've been away from the speed game for years and just made my second buy (first on SR) but I used to buy my speed dry a couple years back. Selling wet speed is just a weight scam, no?
Too many are OK with that, if you ask me. We should boycott that crap actually. Even worse many buyers are actually in the false believe that wet speed is a sign of purity..
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Hi! I have been reading this forum for a while, but this is my first post.
I live in the UK. I'm 100% sure I have ADHD, but the diagnosis process is so frustrating (the NHS way is taking forever, the private way is way too expensive for my budget), and also amphetamine-besed medications are not available (or very difficult/expensive to get).
So, I have decided, that I am gonna walk my own way. Buying Adderall/Dexedrine from SR is just ridiculously expensive, so I am thinking about making my 5mg dextroamphetamine caps, if rhodium's gear is legit. Or, obviously if there is a vendor with very high potency 'regular speed' I am willing to use that. The key is the purity, so I can measure my own sh*t kinda properly.
I know that currently no one has a listing with proven 90%+ purity, but I am patient, I can wait. However, I have some questions regarding my evil self-medication plan.
I am willing to buy 'bulk' from something that is good enough and make my supply for a long time ahead... That would mean 5 - 30 mg caps depending on the amph. type/purity, but... How can I properly measure this weight and put them in caps? I did some google search and some ppl say it's advisable to invest in a £200+ 0,001 measure for accuracy... Is that true? Or can I go with a cheaper one? Also, how can I fill 100+ caps with the same amount other, than one-by-one?
I saw some forums recommending water solution for some steroids... Is that possible with amph? How would you do that if so?
Please keep in mind, that I want to use this strictly for medical purposes. I don't want to chase a high, or develop tolerance or fuck myself up, so I really want to stick to the medically approved dosage.
What are your thoughts on this? In general? Is there anyone doing something similar? Any thoughts/advice would be highly appreciated.
Thank you.
Go with dextroamphetamine.
Scales are expensive, a 200GBP milligram scale is not the cheapest you can find but it's unlikely to be lab grade either. Mine cost around half that but is wildly inaccurate when trying to weigh anything less than 10mg.
Good luck :)
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Hi there, first time buyer/poster here.
I got 5gr from PremiumDutch witch should be 60% pure. Product arrived one day after shipment and is pretty wet on arrival. I brought a sample to a lab for testing so I will report back when I get the results (should be about two weeks).
One thing that amazes me, it seems that everyone seems to be okay with getting wet speed and ending up with half the weight in dry product. What's up with that? I've been away from the speed game for years and just made my second buy (first on SR) but I used to buy my speed dry a couple years back. Selling wet speed is just a weight scam, no?
Too many are OK with that, if you ask me. We should boycott that crap actually. Even worse many buyers are actually in the false believe that wet speed is a sign of purity..
IMO its really a weight scam when they add water, alcohol or any other liquid. when sellers offer "paste" or "base" i am always curious, because whats is it? nobody really knows that exactly, for sure pure speed can be moist but either its amphetine sulphate/hcl or pure freebase. paste or base is mostly cutted amphetamine sulphate with water or alcohol added to improve weight and let it look like paste or base (what doesn't mean it's any good)
but it's also possible you got very pure speed thats a bit moist, because the freebase of amphetamine is an oil, which is turned into salt form by adding sulfuric acid. now it depends on the ph they adjust, low ph results in dry powder/crystals and at a basic high ph you will get a "oily" powder. the oily,yellowish consistency comes from the freebase (oil) wich has not reacted with the sulfuric acid bacause of the high ph.
i dont know it's true but i heard that amphetamince hydrochloride will absorb a lot of water from the air what will make the substance moist, look like paste.
anyway i think most of that wet stuff is just amphetamine sulphate with cutting ingredients and liquid added, especially when its really wet! if its just a bit moist or oily it can be pretty good stuff!
for sure buying dry powder would be the best as you won't have weight loss. but some of that wet stuff going around atm is very high quality, but as said before, most of the stuff available will just be cut..
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but it's also possible you got very pure speed thats a bit moist, because the freebase of amphetamine is an oil, which is turned into salt form by adding sulfuric acid. now it depends on the ph they adjust, low ph results in dry powder/crystals and at a basic high ph you will get a "oily" powder. the oily,yellowish consistency comes from the freebase (oil) wich has not reacted with the sulfuric acid bacause of the high ph.
BM's second batch had that issue, he explained why it happened, check his posts from July, August, if you like. But it wasn't oily - more clumsy, but still easy to handle. Vendors selling freebase is still a myth ;D.
i dont know it's true but i heard that amphetamince hydrochloride will absorb a lot of water from the air what will make the substance moist, look like paste.
That has been kinda confirmed by BM and CC, when MrFUK was rumored to sell amph-hcl, I think that was around September.
Sry I am too lazy to look for the posts myself right now - sandman is waiting ;D
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Would just like to put in a quick word for Powerades second batch. as I had commented somewhat negatively on the first.
Huge improvement here, higher potency, fairly easy on the nose (though I tend to swallow capsules). Extremely fast shipping again (2 working days EU-EU) and packaging acceptable.
First bomb took me a bit by surprise and I was reaching for the xanax 10 hours later at bed time.
Would happily order again.
This is my opinion, too - after ordering just a gram to check it out I placed a bigger order as I was confident with the quality.
Still not the best, but for this price definitely the way to go and a big difference to the old stuff.
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i dont know it's true but i heard that amphetamince hydrochloride will absorb a lot of water from the air what will make the substance moist, look like paste.
That has been kinda confirmed by BM and CC, when MrFUK was rumored to sell amph-hcl, I think that was around September.
Fun fact: It's not very hygroscopic after all. Source: chemist, the ones with the long white shirts and safety-goggles 'n shit.
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but it's also possible you got very pure speed thats a bit moist, because the freebase of amphetamine is an oil, which is turned into salt form by adding sulfuric acid. now it depends on the ph they adjust, low ph results in dry powder/crystals and at a basic high ph you will get a "oily" powder. the oily,yellowish consistency comes from the freebase (oil) wich has not reacted with the sulfuric acid bacause of the high ph.
BM's second batch had that issue, he explained why it happened, check his posts from July, August, if you like. But it wasn't oily - more clumsy, but still easy to handle. Vendors selling freebase is still a myth ;D.
i dont know it's true but i heard that amphetamince hydrochloride will absorb a lot of water from the air what will make the substance moist, look like paste.
That has been kinda confirmed by BM and CC, when MrFUK was rumored to sell amph-hcl, I think that was around September.
Sry I am too lazy to look for the posts myself right now - sandman is waiting ;D
"But it wasn't oily - more clumsy, but still easy to handle." yeah, that sounds like it should be. its hard to get amphetamine sulfate or hcl completely dry, and most don't care because of the weight gain. too bad i missed that hcl-stuff mrfuk was selling, but it's pretty rare to get pure hydrochloride form..
müslix: fan fact or absurd fact!? we are talking about amphetamine hydrochloride;) just ask one of the chemists, the ones with long white shirts and safety goggles, about that, maybe he can clear you up..
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müslix: fan fact or absurd fact!? we are talking about amphetamine hydrochloride;) just ask one of the chemists, the ones with long white shirts and safety goggles, about that, maybe he can clear you up..
I did. And the answer was, that they didn't notice any hygroscopic features at all. It didn't get sticky, neither did it gain weight in a lab-environment. It's used as a reference to test illicit speed samples. FUK never sold HCl.
edit: GHB (can't remember what salt) is a wonderful example of a hygroscopic substance: goes from powder -> clumpy -> sticky -> mud -> liquid. Everyone seemed to think Amph HCl behaves the same way (sucks up liquid quickly). I was told it doesn't. Or the lab couldn't handle it for their analysis.
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Is it the return? 8)
Well, hope dies last.
Is there any feedback on ruthenium(100) ? All I read is "better then expected" "stuff is ok", wtf this is supposed to be pure dextro...?!
edit: where is all the dextro coming from all of a sudden? Santa brought it? My Spidey-senses are going insane.
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I'm waiting for a sample from ruthenium. We'll probably know more tomorrow.
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i dont know it's true but i heard that amphetamince hydrochloride will absorb a lot of water from the air what will make the substance moist, look like paste.
That has been kinda confirmed by BM and CC, when MrFUK was rumored to sell amph-hcl, I think that was around September.
Fun fact: It's not very hygroscopic after all. Source: chemist, the ones with the long white shirts and safety-goggles 'n shit.
lol, well either BM and CC are bad chemists, were trying to sabotage MrFUK's reputation or your chemist has no clue :P
One time, I did synthesize the HCl salt for experimentation purposes. It was extremely hard to dry, I mean you can't just evaporate the water with heat. You must let it dry in desiccator, a closed box or a big jar full of a drying agent like silica gel or magnesium sulfate or even vacuum and spend some days drying it.
After drying, if you leave the amphetamine hydrochloride at open air it catches moisture from air and converts to a transparent gel or jelly and it's a pretty fast process, can take 1 or 2 days maximum. Same as Alpha-gpc, if anybody knows Alpha will know what I'm talking about.
Best regards
BM
Boymaster is correct. Amphetamine HCL is extremely hygroscopic(absorbs water).. If you want an idea you can experiment with sodium hydroxide which is quite easy to obtain and also very hygroscopic.. Leave it out in the open and it will turn into a liquid(sodium hydroxide solution).. There is a reason amphetamine HCL is so rarely produced and this is because it is so unstable..
Thanks
CC
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i dont know it's true but i heard that amphetamince hydrochloride will absorb a lot of water from the air what will make the substance moist, look like paste.
That has been kinda confirmed by BM and CC, when MrFUK was rumored to sell amph-hcl, I think that was around September.
Fun fact: It's not very hygroscopic after all. Source: chemist, the ones with the long white shirts and safety-goggles 'n shit.
lol, well either BM and CC are bad chemists, were trying to sabotage MrFUK's reputation or your chemist has no clue :P
One time, I did synthesize the HCl salt for experimentation purposes. It was extremely hard to dry, I mean you can't just evaporate the water with heat. You must let it dry in desiccator, a closed box or a big jar full of a drying agent like silica gel or magnesium sulfate or even vacuum and spend some days drying it.
After drying, if you leave the amphetamine hydrochloride at open air it catches moisture from air and converts to a transparent gel or jelly and it's a pretty fast process, can take 1 or 2 days maximum. Same as Alpha-gpc, if anybody knows Alpha will know what I'm talking about.
Best regards
BM
Boymaster is correct. Amphetamine HCL is extremely hygroscopic(absorbs water).. If you want an idea you can experiment with sodium hydroxide which is quite easy to obtain and also very hygroscopic.. Leave it out in the open and it will turn into a liquid(sodium hydroxide solution).. There is a reason amphetamine HCL is so rarely produced and this is because it is so unstable..
Thanks
CC
thanks for quoting this, thats exactly what i meant. it seems bm and cc have some pretty good knowledge about amph synthesis! other than many other vendors/buyers here.. ::)
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ruthenium gears shall be there tomorrow morning as well.
UK delivers really slow to DE for me. iisthisisi gears arrived in 2 days! :D Will give it a try on the weekend and leave my feedback.
Ah, I managed to test better CaliKartell stuff. Really NOT impressed. Cutted with something I really can't define (really odd taste/smell), low on coffeine AND amphetamine. Just a slightly buzz, awake, no special mental/physical rush, no special Euphoria.
Definitely a NO-GO from my side, go with Powerede stuff, a lot better in quality AND price.
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Just received a batch of speed paste from AfghanApothecary. Was going cheap, had a bit of left over BTC, so why not? Took just on 10 working days to get to southern hemishepere. Was not vacuum sealed.... just in 2 baggies. Product is a tan colour with a pink-ish tinge, but not visually 'wet'. Haven't tried it, but I'm erring to not bother drying it out and just mixing it in my drinks next time I go out.
AA is a lovely person but honestly the order I got from him was very very low quality. Not only that, it was cut with something that made snorting nothing short of painful. It was yellow, and had an acidic smell. I'll leave it at that.
The stuff I got is definitely not yellow, but I hate snorting speed anyways.
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Recieved my sample from Ruthenium yesterday. Ordered sunday came thursday, coul dbe faster but it aint that poor of a performance.
Packaging sufficient, it made it through!
The stuff, I have to say is nothing like any speed i've had before, powdered, bone dry, smells different, tastes different... in a new way, not yet encountered type of different~)
The effects have lasted all day. No crash, no burn. just rock solid focus and drive.
I began with approx 0.1g, went and played football and it developed into a very clear minded, articulate energised state of mind.
In comparison to the very best paste ive had in the past, this tips the balance in favour of this. Easily better than FireUK's batches, this is evidently purer, speaking as objectively as possible. I redosed 0.1g (even though it wasnt neccessary) and I've been steamin' all day and night long. :)
I'm getting stuck into a few tasks that have been on hold for weeks. Progress!
At £40 a gram, this is top end of the market, but at £4 a go (my tolerance is higher than average, your dosage may differ) it's great value for money...
On another note, I recieved a 2g sample from AfghanApothecary two days previous, top service, next day arrival after order was placed... but I consumed all 2g (At a cost of £15) in 12hrs, and I suspect this was cut with something, as I vomited and felt quite ill afterwards. The slept for around 18hrs! It may appear cheap, but it was genuinely shit speed, albeit far from the shittest bag I've been sent off of SR, this guy isnt on my christmas card list.
£15 a day is diabolical value, the ad is misleading. Avoid. Very fucking disappointing.
Back to the bright side....
I think our prayers have been answered. I highly recommend Ruthenium's clean potent amphetamine. I havent sampled CapeCrusaders yet, but I really want to compare these side by side! Eagerly.
Hallelujah! :)
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lol, well either BM and CC are bad chemists, were trying to sabotage MrFUK's reputation or your chemist has no clue :P
It's not "my" chemist. It's the chemist who does the analysis. I was as surprised as you. but that's what he said. I doubt he has no clue. As I said, they use this in the lab as a reference. They actually work with this compound, unlike 99.9% in this thread. Everything the American guy (sry, can't remember his name) said on here about the HCl equivalency was correct btw.
edit: that's no secret source or anything, you can ask yourself if you don't believe me.
edit2: what the lab chemist said isn't conflicting with what BM said. Labs generally don't leave their compounds out in the open when they don't need it. Nor are they located in open-air facilities.
@taller: remember a couple of days ago when you were trolling here, demanding proof that their gear was pure?! how quickly things change. you have a very presumptuous writing style, dunno what to think about that...
sooo... anyone BUT numnuts tested the dextro? Where is everyone? And who are all these new ppl?! lol Christmas time I guess...
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müslix, dextro is out only since 1 week or so, give it time to arrive in our mailbox! ;)
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It's not "my" chemist. It's the chemist who does the analysis. I was as surprised as you. but that's what he said. I doubt he has no clue. As I said, they use this in the lab as a reference. They actually work with this compound, unlike 99.9% in this thread. Everything the American guy (sry, can't remember his name) said on here about the HCl equivalency was correct btw.
my knowledge in chemistry should actually be good enough to find it out myself, but ehh I am too lazy.. ::), anyway I have no reason to not believe you, your input in this thread is always appreciated.
haven't ordered anything since august - totally broke -, but I have to order pretty soon, study time starts in January..
that Ruthenium guy looks very promising, but he has no active speed listings atm :(
so either iisthisisi or waiting for CC..
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@taller: remember a couple of days ago when you were trolling here, demanding proof that their gear was pure?! how quickly things change. you have a very presumptuous writing style, dunno what to think about that...
i still don't know whats your problem with me!? i said aakovens speed i rceived was good quality - since then on you are railing about me and calling me a liar.. you are the only one who have a presumptuous writing style, i just wanna share my knowledge and experience here with other users. if you have a problem with aakoven that's your problem, but when i say the stuff i received was good you have respect that. there are so many good reviews about shitty speed sold sr because most have no clue about amphetamines..
"how quickly things change" what changed? i am experienced with speed and tested many diff batches and from what i can tell you, consistency of speed tells you nothing about the quality! i had dry powder lab tested with a purity of about 60+% but also tested a lot of dry stuff that was bad cut or just average (up to 20%), when i did lab test with paste/oily/wet stuff it was almost the same, best was 72% i think but as with the dried powder most was just average or really bad.
what you wanna hear? when i first answered to one of your post i asked you about the lab-test that was made with i think 99% purity you said, wheres that? i just want to discuss about the quality socially but it seems you are not interested in that. but if you are, it will be great to discuss about the speed here - but PLEASE without all that bashing!
one thing to mention is that most of the speed going around is cut and not the highest purity! most speed sold these days contains about 5-10% amphe and rest are cuttings. what do you think would happen when suddenly all of the speed is completely pure? ...^^ for me, speed with about 30-40% purity (without any shitty ingredient) is all i want for consuming, but even that is not common.
if you just want purest stuff, you will need someone who synthesize amphetamine and ask him for some freebase;) but thats not what most people here are looking for, they are looking for speed which can be taken/snorted easily without the risk of overdosing and having a good time.
to hcl: believe it or not! it is hygroscopic, BUT that doesn't mean you can't dry it!! if thats what you are talking about.. sulfate is also hygroscopic, just much less.
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It seems unproductive to devalue people based upon inaccurate knowledge and understanding
"share knowledge and eradicate ignorance" anon
The aim of such scrutiny is to create ranking? "who's the fucking boss" mentality? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
Apparently, I haven't the worth to successfully sell speed, which amused me. I almost got defensive about it. But I ain't insecure any more.
To form a judgement on somebody after a handful of posts is a lack of respect and serves only to provide a false sense of importance.
I'm not having a go, all I say is learn to love yourself, and big up your bad self! Know it, and evolve through it. just be awesome, we can all be winners :)
btw... I was a moderator for 4 years on a console forum, does that make me special?
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also interested to see what others say about rutheniums dynamite gear.
what you say the listings have gone?
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Going to place an order for iisthisisi's d-amp today.. Curious :) Price/quality for Powerades speed seems good, going to have a try for that too..
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Received order from Proline today.. Took a bit long, over 2 weeks.
Ordered 2g but received only 1.65g, have to say it's not wet, so no weight-loss from chopping it up but gonna contact him about it.
It looks nice, and doesn't stink too much either.. I'm curious :P
Gonna try 75mg, see how it goes 8)
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Anyone tried Mercury31's amphetamine yet? I placed an order for his supposedly very good cocaine but I couldn't find any reviews on his amphetamine so I didn't really feel like taking the gamble and order 5g (smallest listing) of it at once. He's also got new years packs now with 1g speed and 1g MDMA but unfortunately I'm not really in need of MDMA.
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NOUUU powerade out of stock ;)
6six1 seems to have an additional speed items for sale (polish paste..dang 20$/g!)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/fc2b67cae1
it worth a try it seems..may bags are full right now, anybody gonna order?
Here is also my review on dextro from Ruthenium.
Snorted this morning tryout safe dosage of 10mg.
+20mg 45 mins later
Definitely dextro. On dextro, no clues if it's only me, but the colors appear a lot more vivid. I was completely on alert status the next few hours, with an amazing clear mind and no stressful effect at all. I managed to work with a great performance.
Absolutely no rush physically and mentally (well, this is something I like but also don't like about dextro..amazing to work, but not really for party).
least for 6-7 hours, with no up'n'down effects. Comedown very easy as well.
All dextro lovers should definitely order from him ;)
Tomorrow i'll have a try of iisthisisi 72% amph.
Greetz
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I ran out of speed. Did you ever notice that EVERYTHING sucks. :(
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Not only is Powerade out of stock, his profile also says that he has decided to only supply the German market for now. I finally ordered a sample after reading all his positive reviews here and it shipped just before he went out of stock. Now I get to try it, maybe think that it's great and then I won't be able to order again because I don't live in Germany :(
Good news however: I noticed that my order with mercury31 hadn't shipped yet so I asked him if he could include a small amphetamine sample and he said he would. Will post my findings when it gets here!
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It's not so terrible, iisthisisi and Ruthenium are there for premium stuff.
if you feel lucky, jurgen or dagobert could be still a decent quality/price.
6six1 could be hopefully some alternatives..but waiting for feedback.
And don't remember BM said he'll come back after x-mas ;)
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Received order from Proline today.. Took a bit long, over 2 weeks.
Ordered 2g but received only 1.65g, have to say it's not wet, so no weight-loss from chopping it up but gonna contact him about it.
It looks nice, and doesn't stink too much either.. I'm curious :P
Gonna try 75mg, see how it goes 8)
It's well over 6 hours ago and I can still feel it, this is semi-decent stuff.. :)
When snorted it doesn't burn that much however the drip is horrible :P
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Tomorrow i'll have a try of iisthisisi 72% amph.
i already tried it. :P. I am taking the amph everyday since 4 months. ahahah
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It's not so terrible, iisthisisi and Ruthenium are there for premium stuff.
if you feel lucky, jurgen or dagobert could be still a decent quality/price.
6six1 could be hopefully some alternatives..but waiting for feedback.
And don't remember BM said he'll come back after x-mas ;)
I know, no need to panic, I think I can manage till after christmas :)
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Tomorrow i'll have a try of iisthisisi 72% amph.
No matter how good this product is, it's overpriced. Pure (73%) amphetamine shouldn't cost more than €10/gram where I live.
My hope is the lab results of the http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/a764d5df8a (http://Premiumdutch speed). If that comes out OK I think we have a sweet spot price/quality wise.
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received 1g each of iisthisisi (72%) and Ruthenium (dextro) this week.
Senses:
72%-dl = dry, shiny white. pressed together for packaging. easy to break up and cut up. A modest aroma is emitted, its gentle diffusion making it a highly enjoyable and attractive attribute, lending it a more feminine character, like the subtle pheromones of your dearly beloved. It retains recognisably speedy notes but does not use, nor need to use hints of cat-piss to attract us speed-bees towards its nectar.
dextro = fine, dry, fluffy, angelic white powder. The smell is similarly gentle, but deviates further away from any of the signature speedy undertones. Ruthenium's packaging was a little awkward. And what I retrieved ended up being nearly 200mg light (surely, only partially attributable to my clumsiness?). Anyway, didn't stay mad for long - the fluffy texture makes it look as though I have more than my scales are telling me.
Both seem to be a little easier on the nose than BM's last batch (which is mildly irritating in one nostril - problem? been moving towards oral administration but still like to know how well a new batch navigates its way through the sinus cavity)
I'm really impressed with both items - unfortunately I can't review effects properly yet as my intake so far has been too mixed to isolate the sources - although the already mentioned distinctions between dl-amph and dextro were still noticeable to an extent, I didn't start from a clean baseline and then switched between these two to achieve a good productivity boost when required as well as recreational horny bliss when desired...
despite the muddle I believe that both are good quality (whilst admitting to limited experience on the dextro)- I intend to order both of them again asap before they disappear...Ah - too late already for one of them...
dosage:
over the course of a three day 'productivity binge' approximately the following amounts have been consumed:
BM's tan coloured batch: 25mg
iisthisisi's 72% dl: 120mg
Ruthenium's dextro: 60mg
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Tomorrow i'll have a try of iisthisisi 72% amph.
No matter how good this product is, it's overpriced. Pure (73%) amphetamine shouldn't cost more than €10/gram where I live.
My hope is the lab results of the http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/a764d5df8a (http://Premiumdutch speed). If that comes out OK I think we have a sweet spot price/quality wise.
I envy those prices. HQ speed here is $400 / gram.
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no decent UK vendors that sell speed?
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Tomorrow i'll have a try of iisthisisi 72% amph.
No matter how good this product is, it's overpriced. Pure (73%) amphetamine shouldn't cost more than €10/gram where I live.
My hope is the lab results of the http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/a764d5df8a (http://Premiumdutch speed). If that comes out OK I think we have a sweet spot price/quality wise.
Considering that there are usually 5-20% amphetamines in paste and you never get what you pay for due to weight loss, the prize is OK.
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@tango. rutheniums dextro is the strongest speed ive had off SR. seems pricey buts its ruthless. i have notable tolerance, and 0.1g / or 100 mgs had me in the flow zone for hours on end. 2 days later i'm still awake, cheerful, and only physical fatigue plights my pursuit, unrelated.
maxhavelaar from NL has good gear, got it this morning and it tasted fine, dry and tasted slightly more concentrated than street speed, about £25 for two grams, came in 3 days.
I'll update on maxhavelaar when rutheniums finally wears off. 18hrs! ffs. This is real amphet, Its in a league of its own, until the big boys get back serving.
UK speed is wank, has been for years
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It seems unproductive to devalue people based upon inaccurate knowledge and understanding
"share knowledge and eradicate ignorance" anon
The aim of such scrutiny is to create ranking? "who's the fucking boss" mentality? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
Apparently, I haven't the worth to successfully sell speed, which amused me. I almost got defensive about it. But I ain't insecure any more.
To form a judgement on somebody after a handful of posts is a lack of respect and serves only to provide a false sense of importance.
disagree. It's selling ignorance as facts that hurts. If you state something like "tomorrow I will get pure freebase!" and no one points out that this is BS, how would you learn? You also spread misinformation among new users, how is this any good? Asking is one thing, but claiming some BS = true with a ton of confidence is another (American) thing.
This has nothing to do with "who's the boss", BM (is) was the king. That's not how knowledge works. I have answered a metric shitton of questions in here already, but I got tired of it, now I only pick the funny ones, i.e. you.
Don't take it personally, but what do you expect? You think you can go to a chess club and start telling everyone that you need to beat the queen to win, without anyone speaking up? I am just poking fun at you, pointing out that you need some more knowledge or at least stop preaching false Truths. It looks like you are recovering from the deep emotional scars I have left fairly quick, I guess you can take it. And I can have a laugh every now and then. You are somehow funny or else I would have forgotten about you by now. Or at least you take some troll assaults in a funny manner, that amuses me. ;D Keep doing your thing!
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1 gramma lähes puhdasta (>96 %) d-amfetamiinia $161.57
Sounds awesome! I want that, whatever it means. Sounds a bit like the german word for toothpaste, just not for tooth :) with a hint of furniture. I want to know that language, but I don't want to learn it :P just like Hungarian :(
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Here are test results from Powerade previous batch I received about 2,5 weeks ago.
Amphetamine 17% and cafeine 35%. This is 17% from a max of 73% and the rest is a Salt. Yes I live in the Netherlands
So 17% of 73% is about 25% absolutely and not the advertised > 50%.
I lost 25% off the weight during drying so actually only 18.75% off the weight was amphetamine.
Two days ago I received 25 grams off the second batch.
I was A little disappointed about the weight after drying, Only 15 gr left from the 25 gr.
There is a very stinky aggressive solvent in it.
I had a spill on the table from this solvent and immediately the varnish disappeared and the surface was rough.
Not tested yet by myself or someone else.
I bring this to the lab on 20 December.
Speedie
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Here are test results from Powerade previous batch I received about 2,5 weeks ago.
Amphetamine 17% and cafeine 35%. This is 17% from a max of 73% and the rest is a Salt. Yes I live in the Netherlands
So 17% of 73% is about 25% absolutely and not the advertised > 50%.
I lost 25% off the weight during drying so actually only 18.75% off the weight was amphetamine.
Two days ago I received 25 grams off the second batch.
I was A little disappointed about the weight after drying, Only 15 gr left from the 25 gr.
There is a very stinky aggressive solvent in it.
I had a spill on the table from this solvent and immediately the varnish disappeared and the surface was rough.
Not tested yet by myself or someone else.
I bring this to the lab on 20 December.
Speedie
Another buyer reported he had to vomit while drying the stuff out.. http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.msg637539#msg637539
Haven't you brought some of BM's to the lab aswell? :)
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Here are test results from Powerade previous batch I received about 2,5 weeks ago.
Amphetamine 17% and cafeine 35%. This is 17% from a max of 73% and the rest is a Salt. Yes I live in the Netherlands
So 17% of 73% is about 25% absolutely and not the advertised > 50%.
I lost 25% off the weight during drying so actually only 18.75% off the weight was amphetamine.
Speedie
+1, you just saved me some coin...sounds pretty nasty if the smell of it drying out has caused people to get nauseous just form being in the same room.
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HI guys!!
well my name says it all.....lol
m looking for 3 or 4 guys who are willing to discreetly test every now and then... a free sample of HQ dutch speed...
m looking for guys with lots of topic posts and expertise of course with speed
plss apply in pm......ill look in my box later this week...oke...so pls be patient...i wont reply no more in this topic..
thanks in advance...
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Hello,
someone remember the prices for Afterhours 50/100g SPEED listings?
thank you
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looking for 5 people who want to test my amphetamine
for review on this topic
looking for people that have more then 100posts(1 sample per country)
pm me here and i will decide who will get a free sample of amph
regards,mercury31
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@tango. rutheniums dextro is the strongest speed ive had off SR. seems pricey buts its ruthless. i have notable tolerance, and 0.1g / or 100 mgs had me in the flow zone for hours on end. 2 days later i'm still awake, cheerful, and only physical fatigue plights my pursuit, unrelated.
maxhavelaar from NL has good gear, got it this morning and it tasted fine, dry and tasted slightly more concentrated than street speed, about £25 for two grams, came in 3 days.
I'll update on maxhavelaar when rutheniums finally wears off. 18hrs! ffs. This is real amphet, Its in a league of its own, until the big boys get back serving.
UK speed is wank, has been for years
yeah only reason im asking about UK, is its easier to get into aus than germany or NL
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Here are test results from Powerade previous batch I received about 2,5 weeks ago.
Amphetamine 17% and cafeine 35%. This is 17% from a max of 73% and the rest is a Salt. Yes I live in the Netherlands
So 17% of 73% is about 25% absolutely and not the advertised > 50%.
My guess was:
1.5 hrs in, I'd say the estimate is still good: around 25% with no ugly adulterants added
the nausea from caffeine kicked in late, but it did :( very ugly. 35% caffeine sounds right.
We can stop lab testing now, I am accurate enough ;D nailed it again!
Two days ago I received 25 grams off the second batch.
I was A little disappointed about the weight after drying, Only 15 gr left from the 25 gr.
That's 40% loss, so it's now cut with more solvent instead. sucks.
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HI guys!!
well my name says it all.....lol
m looking for 3 or 4 guys who are willing to discreetly test every now and then... a free sample of HQ dutch speed...
m looking for euro guys with lots of topic posts and expertise of course with speed
plss apply in pm......ill look in my box later this week...oke...so pls be patient...i wont reply no more in this topic..
thanks in advance...
Knomo maybe... he has access I believe ;)
What you say Knomo , I dunno how much time he got on his hands tho ?!
But I do have a hunch he might be interested...
;D 8)
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Haven't you brought some of BM's to the lab aswell? :)
Don't think he did, there was a result from a CH guy though. Came out at 96% sulphate per weight (my guess was: 97%).
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AA is a lovely person but honestly the order I got from him was very very low quality.
I know what you mean and it's an interesting quote if you think about it. In the past I've had a nice conversation with another AA we know as aakoven... after that end result was he has sold bad stuff to me and to a lot of other people for a long time. (
Are they "lovely" or just clever enough to know that to scam potential buyers effectively it's better to communicate like a sympathetic reliable person? ;)
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so is there no real decent speed vendors at the moment?
most reports seem to say quite average
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Hello, what's the latest news? I read boymaster went rogue?
Seems standard for vendors who have good product to do this.... they can always come back in disguise right?..
Did CC abandon his venture?
I ordered 1g of powerade. Also tried one of the speed/ ice pills from tambourineman... They were kinda weak really, I think you need to take like 1.5 of them or something to get good effects. Super overpriced imo and first order didn't arrive, so he had to reship and it took a month before I received anything. (europe).
These canadian speed/ice pills defo work but I don't like not knowing what's in them and that maybe there's meth in there.
Stupidily used 2g CC stuff for a month straight and then a gram of some dutch speed. The wd was 6 days of some lethargy and LOTS OF sleeping.
Easiest damn WD I ever seen tbh, compared ot benzo's / gaba-b agonists. I did lose a lot of damn weight though. After 1-2 weeks I looked really shredded and ripped haha, looked good. Then I started losing muscle mass and it was not fun and I was not going to the gym.
ALso ended up using mixed benzos/z-drugs for 35 days that I somehow escaped not having WD from. I think mixing diff ones somehow while using amph and then a mini taper covered by phenibut stopped it.
I would like to order a big amount but I can't keep it around. Amphetamine is the first time I've been psychologically addicted to something... and I've used eevery drug there is . Benzos I have no affinity to use... but amph is so damn hard to not take when you have it around... makes me too damn much of a superbrain. Think I need to make a friend who I order large quantity to then he can dispense amphetamine in smaller doses and timeframes to me lol. Until then I have to order small I guess :(
Damnit, wish I had read the 17% amphetamine and 35% caffeine thing about powerade.... the previous stuff I read said it was good. Oh well, only 19 dollars but I can't take the caffeinated shit. no surprise people vomit...
Damn, I was reading good reviews about it. 50%... sure he admitted it was wet but people said it only lost 25% weight vs all the other wet shit I've ordered that lose more than 50% weight and have super heavy bodyload (thx to caffeine). I figured maybe there was no caffeine but... fk.
I can't use caffeine shit.
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Hello, what's the latest news? I read boymaster went rogue?
Seems standard for vendors who have good product to do this.... they can always come back in disguise right?..
Did CC abandon his venture?
No one knows what really happened, a bunch of guys didn't receive from BM. Anything could have happened (in theory) but I will order express/registered next time ;D He said he will be back after Christmas. He can't go completely off rail, his product would give at away, it was still the best gear that was sold in quantities on here.
CC, tbh it looks like it. It's weird since I chatted a lot with him in the beginning and it appeared that this next batch will come for sure. Rumor is that there were users receiving small amounts of, I think this new batch already.
Too bad was looking forward to it.
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HI guys!!
well my name says it all.....lol
m looking for 3 or 4 guys who are willing to discreetly test every now and then... a free sample of HQ dutch speed...
m looking for guys with lots of topic posts and expertise of course with speed
plss apply in pm......ill look in my box later this week...oke...so pls be patient...i wont reply no more in this topic..
thanks in advance...
Hi Guys !!
sorry to bother you again
ik slightly adjustet the tekst...testers from all the world are invited...not only euro zone...and....1.5 gram or so...is that good?
have a good night !
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Here are test results from Powerade previous batch I received about 2,5 weeks ago.
Amphetamine 17% and cafeine 35%. This is 17% from a max of 73% and the rest is a Salt. Yes I live in the Netherlands
So 17% of 73% is about 25% absolutely and not the advertised > 50%.
Well, looks like my guess was pretty accurate 8)
HI guys!!
well my name says it all.....lol
m looking for 3 or 4 guys who are willing to discreetly test every now and then... a free sample of HQ dutch speed...
m looking for euro guys with lots of topic posts and expertise of course with speed
plss apply in pm......ill look in my box later this week...oke...so pls be patient...i wont reply no more in this topic..
thanks in advance...
Knomo maybe... he has access I believe ;)
What you say Knomo , I dunno how much time he got on his hands tho ?!
But I do have a hunch he might be interested...
;D 8)
I'm always up for some guinea-pigging >:D
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Out of curiosity, why is high-quality amphetamine sulfate so hard to come by? I mean we can find pure coke, pharm vials of ketamine, bomb herb, pure #4 H, etc. but when it comes to the active ingredient in adderall (which is way mass-produced) it seems so hard to find. It also sucks that apparently its hard to wash/clean impure product.... As this thread shows there definitely is a strong demand for the product -- for comparison, there is a lot more discussion here than the ketamine thread. I guess I will just have to continue very night saying my prayers in hopes of CC or BM returning :( What's the deal?
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Out of curiosity, why is high-quality amphetamine sulfate so hard to come by? I mean we can find pure coke, pharm vials of ketamine, bomb herb, pure #4 H, etc. but when it comes to the active ingredient in adderall (which is way mass-produced) it seems so hard to find. It also sucks that apparently its hard to wash/clean impure product.... As this thread shows there definitely is a strong demand for the product -- for comparison, there is a lot more discussion here than the ketamine thread. I guess I will just have to continue very night saying my prayers in hopes of CC or BM returning :( What's the deal?
Good question.. I always wonder the same thing.
And vendors who DO sell good stuff always go AWOL :-\
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so is there no real decent speed vendors at the moment?
most reports seem to say quite average
Give me a coulpe of days. I'll have the lab results of PremiumDutch's "60%" on friday. Let's hope for the best.
And for the people who want to get rid of the caffeine...try washing it with acetone. Works great and gets rid of all the nasty solvents as well.
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Is it wort buying from iisthisisi? Or what vendor has the best stuff for the best price? Is it really 72% pure?
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Out of curiosity, why is high-quality amphetamine sulfate so hard to come by? I mean we can find pure coke, pharm vials of ketamine, bomb herb, pure #4 H, etc. but when it comes to the active ingredient in adderall (which is way mass-produced) it seems so hard to find. It also sucks that apparently its hard to wash/clean impure product.... As this thread shows there definitely is a strong demand for the product -- for comparison, there is a lot more discussion here than the ketamine thread. I guess I will just have to continue very night saying my prayers in hopes of CC or BM returning :( What's the deal?
I'd say the common speedhead is an ignorant uninformed prick, which makes it easy for dealers to sell overpriced/cut trash to us. And we were all common speedheads once, buying every paste/base whatever we could lay our hands on, putting in the fridge so it won't lose potency.. This was all the "knowledge" we had, most likely provided by our own dealer ;D.
Having a look at dmtdoodeelsd(100), who is still having that rank after selling this product "BASE - Speed/Amphet PASTE" for 6 months just proves me right :P.
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hmm...really interesting what we can read here about Powerade´s stuff....
I (and some of you also?) thought that it´s high-quality offered amph, but now it isn´t?
Just wanted to give his gear a try, so pls inform about your experiences with his offer. Thx.
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In your opinion .
Which vendor offers real HQ-speed atm, as I´m looking for some pretty pure amph, but there seems to be only average stuff around...?
Thx4info.
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Im waiting for Afterhours, he said listing is up maybe wednesday
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Ordered me a g from maxhavelaar, should arrive before the weekend we'll see....
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CC new batch was some quality stuff. I hope nothing happened to him.... He's from South Africa which is a super violent country with a brutal police force. I think any criminal involvement over there is probably short lived.
I saw my heart rate jump up to 180bpm temporarily turning on some err sexual content on my computer with these canadian "ICE" pills while seated. I mean i've counted 170 before while dancing in a club on boymasters- comparatively to FireUK when he wasn't scamming and send good stuff my resting heartrate would be 90 (100+ is regarded as tachycardia) while dancing it'd go to 120 max which is fine. I have about 140 when I'm jogging sober for an hour so... I didn't really have any good effects from them but it was day after having a strong LSD experience. I popped 1mg of xanax and it went down to 120 or so but 180bpm is notttttttt good. Hate bodyload shit, good thing I'm fit and in my late 20s... At least there was no arrhythmia (caffeine usually would be the cause of skipped heart beats . Those canadian pills definitely have methamphetamine in them or some other shit... but I'm not so sure about these ones from tambourineman because I didn't get dilated pupils/. Meth gave me super big pupils.
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AA is a lovely person but honestly the order I got from him was very very low quality.
I know what you mean and it's an interesting quote if you think about it. In the past I've had a nice conversation with another AA we know as aakoven... after that end result was he has sold bad stuff to me and to a lot of other people for a long time. (
Are they "lovely" or just clever enough to know that to scam potential buyers effectively it's better to communicate like a sympathetic reliable person? ;)
me and MrFireUK had long PM dialogues and in the end he ripped me off first with a bad batch (after receiving two excellent ones) and then with no order received.
It really means nothing. A lot of speed vendors use their own product as well (probably before cutting the hell out if it)- this makes it rather easy for them to engage in conversation as you can imagine..
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CC new batch was some quality stuff. I hope nothing happened to him.... He's from South Africa which is a super violent country with a brutal police force. I think any criminal involvement over there is probably short lived.
I saw my heart rate jump up to 180bpm temporarily turning on some err sexual content on my computer with these canadian "ICE" pills while seated. I mean i've counted 170 before while dancing in a club on boymasters- comparatively to FireUK when he wasn't scamming and send good stuff my resting heartrate would be 90 (100+ is regarded as tachycardia) while dancing it'd go to 120 max which is fine. I have about 140 when I'm jogging sober for an hour so... I didn't really have any good effects from them but it was day after having a strong LSD experience. I popped 1mg of xanax and it went down to 120 or so but 180bpm is notttttttt good. Hate bodyload shit, good thing I'm fit and in my late 20s... At least there was no arrhythmia (caffeine usually would be the cause of skipped heart beats . Those canadian pills definitely have methamphetamine in them or some other shit... but I'm not so sure about these ones from tambourineman because I didn't get dilated pupils/. Meth gave me super big pupils.
If it was an "Ice pill," or course it was methamphetamine.
Ice is a slang term for meth, although normal for the purest stuff. So the pill contained ice / meth...
That's pretty obvious really.
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If it was an "Ice pill," or course it was methamphetamine.
Ice is a slang term for meth, although normal for the purest stuff. So the pill contained ice / meth...
That's pretty obvious really.
Um yeah I know ice is slang for meth... but
I digress. Calling them ICE pills and labelling them as such can easily just be a marketing ploy for selling some weak shit. I could press caffeine tablets and label them 100% PURE AMP and that doesn't make it a fact does it?. i've used meth before and it always makes my pupils hugely dilated, as I mentioned these didn't do anything to my pupils and it didn't feel like meth. Arigolo states that his simillar "ICE" pills are a combintion of meth and amphetamine sulfate which seems to be the norm in Canada (tambourineman is canadian)
It is possible that these are too but the only meth like effects I felt was the heavier bodyload. As mentioned I did use a strong LSD experience the previous day which may have reduced the effects. I still recommend against them though. $17 excl shipping I think for two pills of unknown product... I just bought em to see what this Canadian stuff was about and I was unimpressed. Even average caffeinated wet paste dutch shit gives me stronger effects and pupil dilation.
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Out of curiosity, why is high-quality amphetamine sulfate so hard to come by? I mean we can find pure coke, pharm vials of ketamine, bomb herb, pure #4 H, etc. but when it comes to the active ingredient in adderall (which is way mass-produced) it seems so hard to find. It also sucks that apparently its hard to wash/clean impure product.... As this thread shows there definitely is a strong demand for the product -- for comparison, there is a lot more discussion here than the ketamine thread. I guess I will just have to continue very night saying my prayers in hopes of CC or BM returning :( What's the deal?
I'd say the common speedhead is an ignorant uninformed prick, which makes it easy for dealers to sell overpriced/cut trash to us. And we were all common speedheads once, buying every paste/base whatever we could lay our hands on, putting in the fridge so it won't lose potency.. This was all the "knowledge" we had, most likely provided by our own dealer ;D.
Having a look at dmtdoodeelsd(100), who is still having that rank after selling this product "BASE - Speed/Amphet PASTE" for 6 months just proves me right :P.
Well, that rating system is broken. He gets his high rating for selling other products as well so he gets away with selling his shit speed. The rating should be seperate for each product category imo. It's a very infantile feedback system on SR really.
Also the guy is a moron and a trickster, he came on here offering samples before to people as to act as if his product was so good.
At the end of the day he made every retarded excuse in the book of not actually sending samples to ANYONE at all and was quite rude about it. STuff like "I have a job and real life, I don't care about SR it's just a hobby I don't have time to send samples" kind of thing,, then don't come in here posturing like you've got such good speed you're ready to send samples. I don't give a fuck about your personal life. This is a business transaction. SR is a business site not a fucking hobby.
DO NOT BUY AMPEHTAMINE from dmtdood. He's full of shit and his amph is shit. It's so shit he couldn't even do a mrfireuk (who did send samples of good stuff, then started cutting it to shit and eventually taking orders, not sending anything and disappearing with everyone's btc).
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Is it wort buying from iisthisisi? Or what vendor has the best stuff for the best price? Is it really 72% pure?
yes. it is very strong!!
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AA is a lovely person but honestly the order I got from him was very very low quality.
I know what you mean and it's an interesting quote if you think about it. In the past I've had a nice conversation with another AA we know as aakoven... after that end result was he has sold bad stuff to me and to a lot of other people for a long time. (
Are they "lovely" or just clever enough to know that to scam potential buyers effectively it's better to communicate like a sympathetic reliable person? ;)
me and MrFireUK had long PM dialogues and in the end he ripped me off first with a bad batch (after receiving two excellent ones) and then with no order received.
It really means nothing. A lot of speed vendors use their own product as well (probably before cutting the hell out if it)- this makes it rather easy for them to engage in conversation as you can imagine..
It doesn't apply to all vendors obviously but come on in many cases it's just a deliberate action, these and some other particular vendors know damn well that they're selling bad quality don't you agree?
edit: with deliberate action I mean the sweet talk thing to be clear
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If it was an "Ice pill," or course it was methamphetamine.
Ice is a slang term for meth, although normal for the purest stuff. So the pill contained ice / meth...
That's pretty obvious really.
Um yeah I know ice is slang for meth... but
I digress. Calling them ICE pills and labelling them as such can easily just be a marketing ploy for selling some weak shit. I could press caffeine tablets and label them 100% PURE AMP and that doesn't make it a fact does it?. i've used meth before and it always makes my pupils hugely dilated, as I mentioned these didn't do anything to my pupils and it didn't feel like meth. Arigolo states that his simillar "ICE" pills are a combintion of meth and amphetamine sulfate which seems to be the norm in Canada (tambourineman is canadian)
It is possible that these are too but the only meth like effects I felt was the heavier bodyload. As mentioned I did use a strong LSD experience the previous day which may have reduced the effects. I still recommend against them though. $17 excl shipping I think for two pills of unknown product... I just bought em to see what this Canadian stuff was about and I was unimpressed. Even average caffeinated wet paste dutch shit gives me stronger effects and pupil dilation.
Well obviously it was advertised correctly anyway.
You're the one that bought them. You have no one to blame but yourself.
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Is it wort buying from iisthisisi? Or what vendor has the best stuff for the best price? Is it really 72% pure?
yes. it is very strong!!
any idea from where he ships?
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If it was an "Ice pill," or course it was methamphetamine.
Ice is a slang term for meth, although normal for the purest stuff. So the pill contained ice / meth...
That's pretty obvious really.
Um yeah I know ice is slang for meth... but
I digress. Calling them ICE pills and labelling them as such can easily just be a marketing ploy for selling some weak shit. I could press caffeine tablets and label them 100% PURE AMP and that doesn't make it a fact does it?. i've used meth before and it always makes my pupils hugely dilated, as I mentioned these didn't do anything to my pupils and it didn't feel like meth. Arigolo states that his simillar "ICE" pills are a combintion of meth and amphetamine sulfate which seems to be the norm in Canada (tambourineman is canadian)
It is possible that these are too but the only meth like effects I felt was the heavier bodyload. As mentioned I did use a strong LSD experience the previous day which may have reduced the effects. I still recommend against them though. $17 excl shipping I think for two pills of unknown product... I just bought em to see what this Canadian stuff was about and I was unimpressed. Even average caffeinated wet paste dutch shit gives me stronger effects and pupil dilation.
Well obviously it was advertised correctly anyway.
You're the one that bought them. You have no one to blame but yourself.
Obviously what? Seriously, stop using that word. Makes you look like a know it all tit when you have zero reading comprehension.
They weren't advertised as anything but speed. It just said speed pills and they were listed in the speed section. Arigolo is a different fucking vendor. If it's advertised in speed section then I expect amphetamine.
and if it WAS amphetamine sulfate mixed with meth then I would've been happy enough as meth is more costly on SR. As it was they were just some weak strange pills. Tambourineman has removed the listing for them now. In fact he removed the listing today from what I notice after my criticism of their poor quality in terms of being a speed product.
I am here reviewing speed products. That's what this thread is about, now that should be obvious to you.. I took a chance to see if they weere any good so I could review them here for other people's benefit. Not for some non contributing poster to respond like an absolute dickhead. Learn to read and don't be rude to someone who is contributing to the thread.
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AA is a lovely person but honestly the order I got from him was very very low quality.
I know what you mean and it's an interesting quote if you think about it. In the past I've had a nice conversation with another AA we know as aakoven... after that end result was he has sold bad stuff to me and to a lot of other people for a long time. (
Are they "lovely" or just clever enough to know that to scam potential buyers effectively it's better to communicate like a sympathetic reliable person? ;)
me and MrFireUK had long PM dialogues and in the end he ripped me off first with a bad batch (after receiving two excellent ones) and then with no order received.
It really means nothing. A lot of speed vendors use their own product as well (probably before cutting the hell out if it)- this makes it rather easy for them to engage in conversation as you can imagine..
It doesn't apply to all vendors obviously but come on in many cases it's just a deliberate action, these and some other particular vendors know damn well that they're selling bad quality don't you agree?
edit: with deliberate action I mean the sweet talk thing to be clear
Come on? Well that's what I'm saying. We are purchasing illegal narcotics from criminals. Committing criminal acts ourselves. I don't trust any vendor. I also talked with BoyMaster and he turned into a scammer as also. BrPower who sold shitty dutch speed disappeared as well, he got all worked up and angry in PM when I told him 2 weeks is way too long for an order to be received within Europe. When I said I'm sick of being scammed and I'm sick of bad cut amphetamine, he said "I'm not a scammer and I hate being called one", wrote long angry message... Then he went rogue, started scamming and didn't ship to several people if you look at his feedback.
It seems that the amphetamine section has the highest amount of scammers.. Highest amount of good vendors who go bad.
It has lots of vendors who sell ok products in other sections but sell bunk shit speed. It's like they're all getting high of their own supply then they run out, have amp withdrawal and just start ripping people off. So all we can do is be pro-active enough in the thread. If someone takes your BTC and runs there's nothing you can do but warn others.
It's a pity because amphetamine is my drug of choice. I've bought weed and LSD here and had no problems finding reliable products and vendors... but amp, even people with good rep turn sour quick enough.
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Is it wort buying from iisthisisi? Or what vendor has the best stuff for the best price? Is it really 72% pure?
If he means 72% base equivalent so 100% amphetamine sulphate powder..don't count on it.
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I received some polish amphetamine from polq1234. will post review later. first impression is that I didn't even realize how much I missed simple amphetamine, after doing d-amph and meth for the past month..
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actually I´m giving 2 vendors a try by testing their stuff with a trial-order:
Maxhavelaar and Powerade.
Of course, I will update here details and facts after receiving the shippments,
maybe even through a test.
Our community should be provided with true details after and about offered stuff,
also if receiving negative karma therefore, lol.
Maybe also some positive karma comes along due to honest reviews,
however - I just share my experiences.
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If it was an "Ice pill," or course it was methamphetamine.
Ice is a slang term for meth, although normal for the purest stuff. So the pill contained ice / meth...
That's pretty obvious really.
Um yeah I know ice is slang for meth... but
I digress. Calling them ICE pills and labelling them as such can easily just be a marketing ploy for selling some weak shit. I could press caffeine tablets and label them 100% PURE AMP and that doesn't make it a fact does it?. i've used meth before and it always makes my pupils hugely dilated, as I mentioned these didn't do anything to my pupils and it didn't feel like meth. Arigolo states that his simillar "ICE" pills are a combintion of meth and amphetamine sulfate which seems to be the norm in Canada (tambourineman is canadian)
It is possible that these are too but the only meth like effects I felt was the heavier bodyload. As mentioned I did use a strong LSD experience the previous day which may have reduced the effects. I still recommend against them though. $17 excl shipping I think for two pills of unknown product... I just bought em to see what this Canadian stuff was about and I was unimpressed. Even average caffeinated wet paste dutch shit gives me stronger effects and pupil dilation.
Well obviously it was advertised correctly anyway.
You're the one that bought them. You have no one to blame but yourself.
Obviously what? Seriously, stop using that word. Makes you look like a know it all tit when you have zero reading comprehension.
They weren't advertised as anything but speed. It just said speed pills and they were listed in the speed section. Arigolo is a different fucking vendor. If it's advertised in speed section then I expect amphetamine.
and if it WAS amphetamine sulfate mixed with meth then I would've been happy enough as meth is more costly on SR. As it was they were just some weak strange pills. Tambourineman has removed the listing for them now. In fact he removed the listing today from what I notice after my criticism of their poor quality in terms of being a speed product.
I am here reviewing speed products. That's what this thread is about, now that should be obvious to you.. I took a chance to see if they weere any good so I could review them here for other people's benefit. Not for some non contributing poster to respond like an absolute dickhead. Learn to read and don't be rude to someone who is contributing to the thread.
Well sorry if I offended you, but you don't have to get so worked up.
I'm just saying that it would be clear to most people than the word "ice" would mean meth.
It seems alot of speed on SR contains meth and / or other adulterants.
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Well, that rating system is broken. He gets his high rating for selling other products as well so he gets away with selling his shit speed. The rating should be seperate for each product category imo. It's a very infantile feedback system on SR really.
That idea is not even half-bad, vendors boost their rank by doing lotteries; getting 50 (or so) 5/5 transactions to boost their stats so they can get away with a crap product.
Also, I think Maxhavelaar currently sells the most reliable stuff. A score of 31% (on Dutch scale; that's 40%'ish 'international') purity for a fair price.
Hardly a coincidence that the 'Max Havelaar'-label was the world's first Fairtrade Certificate :P
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Well, it seems that the amfetamine market still sucks. I expected to find some decent quality on SR, since I can't find anything above 25% amfetamine-base on the streets. Perhaps that some vendors can supply 60% amfetamine-base, but not for a reasonable price. If I decide to try something, I'll keep everyone posted with some decent lab tests of what is in the speed.
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so is there no real decent speed vendors at the moment?
most reports seem to say quite average
Give me a coulpe of days. I'll have the lab results of PremiumDutch's "60%" on friday. Let's hope for the best.
And for the people who want to get rid of the caffeine...try washing it with acetone. Works great and gets rid of all the nasty solvents as well.
I'm looking forward to the test results! How much weight was left after drying?
I don't like to buy some grams and after drying only 60% is left. I agree with you that it's total bullshit that wet speed is better quality, or will maintain the quality better. It's a bullshit story, just like storing your speed in the freezer. Are ADHD medications like adderal and so on stored in the freezer? No. Are they solved in some liquid? No. They contain dry amfetamines and you can store them for months/years.
When my speed stinks, I always wash it with acetone. After a wash, my speed is perfectly white, almost odorless and a very fine crystalline powder. That is the speed I'm looking for.
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About Powerade´s service: I don´t wanna advertise him, of course, but maybe he offered a previous gear which disappointed totally, just have read analyses and opinions about poor-quality-stuff, high caffeine content and other shit,
but what Powerade actually writes to describe his offer looks like that things have changed now:
"The new speed batch is certainly the best I've sold on here so far. It's white and very strong while there are no nasty/unwanted side-effects with this stuff .. just clean and very good speed. I'm sure every customer will be very satisfied with the new batch. It is slightly more expensive than before but also drier already so you will be left with more actual amphetamine and get more bang for your buck in the end."
What do you think about this? Sounds pretty nice so far, now hopefully it can be proofed by facts.
So I gave his offer a try, just to check out the real truth about his gear, and also his honesty, as already mentioned.
I´m pretty curious about that - hopefully he does not disappoint me, as trust were given str8 to him by me.
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actually I´m giving 2 vendors a try by testing their stuff with a trial-order:
Maxhavelaar and Powerade.
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Our community should be provided with true details after and about offered stuff,
also if receiving negative karma therefore, lol.
Maybe also some positive karma comes along due to honest reviews,
however - I just share my experiences.
I also don't think you deserve bad karma per se but no offense if you keep whining about it people will give it to you ;) My amph school comment wasn't meant that unfriendly by the way but you started the message with advice in the headline and then mentioned that the speed you've received was pure base.. do you know now why that is not right?
Anyway moving on Powerade only will send stuff to Germany now for unknown reasons. Personally I have a gut feeling with this domestic shipping only policy mainly because previous scammers like GermanExpress and MrFireUK also have used it probably for no other reason than to boost their rating as quickly as possible so they could scam more effectively after that. But still, would like to try some if it's that much of an improvement over the first 17% stuff he sold before.
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About Powerade´s service: I don´t wanna advertise him, of course, but maybe he offered a previous gear which disappointed totally, just have read analyses and opinions about poor-quality-stuff, high caffeine content and other shit,
but what Powerade actually writes to describe his offer looks like that things have changed now:
"The new speed batch is certainly the best I've sold on here so far. It's white and very strong while there are no nasty/unwanted side-effects with this stuff .. just clean and very good speed. I'm sure every customer will be very satisfied with the new batch. It is slightly more expensive than before but also drier already so you will be left with more actual amphetamine and get more bang for your buck in the end."
What do you think about this? Sounds pretty nice so far, now hopefully it can be proofed by facts.
So I gave his offer a try, just to check out the real truth about his gear, and also his honesty, as already mentioned.
I´m pretty curious about that - hopefully he does not disappoint me, as trust were given str8 to him by me.
Lol, the latest batch is the strongest he ever had of course. But then in the same product description he also claims: "I get this stuff from NL always from the same source for a long time now , always the same consistent high quality."
ok, makes sense....
::)
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Personally I think iisthisisi gears is MORE than good right now, i don't understand why everyone is complaining about the speed marked being so bad (2 months a go.. it was REALLY bad!)
I'm very happy with this seller, fast and stealth shipping, and quality is really good.
Ok, may be we are not talking about pure (or-somewhat-close) amph sulphate like CC or BM, but anyway it kicks ass, and it's not cutted with bad solvents or coffeine either.
If the price is a concern, then it's another point of discussion, but for the quality itself, iisthisisi is really a legit seller with great communication and fast shipping.
Powerade as you read, he's shipping only LOCAL to Germany.
Sellers, other than MaxHavelaar, who COULD (NOT personally tested yet!!!) be interesting for quality/price are polq1234 and Six6One, so we are waiting for more feedbacks to arrive.
at the moment I am happy with the powereade, iisthisisi and rotherium dex i have here on stock, so I'm not going to investigate further.
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oh, btw, if someone can understand Finland language..
1 gramma lähes puhdasta (>96 %) d-amfetamiinia
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/8682e9ad34
for 160$ :D
either it's a scam, or it's really the REAL thing (and fucking overpriced anyway..more than the Jürgen medical grade!)
Sorry but won't risk without buying a sample before..if you really dare..let us know eheh
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My amph school comment wasn't meant that unfriendly by the way...
No problem, cause it´s already forgotten by myself -
now only my account reminds me every time I´m online about how bad I must be to get hardly bombed with bad karma,
only for sharing my toughts here...lol
But damn, it was definitely as good as I posted, wet as many others offers - so it had to be dried out before,
but it lasted really long while needing only very little of it, compared with others.
So maybe I only posted a wrong single word. But surely therefore I deserve that bombing...
anyway, np4me
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oh, btw, if someone can understand Finland language..
1 gramma lähes puhdasta (>96 %) d-amfetamiinia
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/8682e9ad34
for 160$ :D
either it's a scam, or it's really the REAL thing (and fucking overpriced anyway..more than the Jürgen medical grade!)
Sorry but won't risk without buying a sample before..if you really dare..let us know eheh
That is an insane price, there are more vendors around at SR selling the real thing for a more reasonable price.
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there are more vendors around at SR selling the real thing for a more reasonable price.
which vendors sell the real thing atm - In your opinion??
Any opinions and experiences are always welcome here, of course.
But your posting is very general. Pls let us know about whom you are talking or thinking about,
when shouting out such infos, so that facts can be discussed, or experiences are just shared.
Thx in advance...
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Is it wort buying from iisthisisi? Or what vendor has the best stuff for the best price? Is it really 72% pure?
If he means 72% base equivalent so 100% amphetamine sulphate powder..don't count on it.
so you have ttied or haven't tried?
can someone who has tried IISTHISISI please comment on potency/quality of product?
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@commodore64, I tried it, even if low dosages it works like a charme.
Not burning at all, I slept only 2h the night before, and with 80mg I was able to work for many hours, very nice euphoric boost, mood increase, and pyhsical energy.
I'm very sensible to coffeine, and didn't had any problems, therefore I can say there should be no traces of coffeine inside (as he also told me while discussing).
Also other 2 users tried it and left a good feedback (scroll backwards to forum)
@physicsdude @oNLiN3fR3aK
If we are talking about dextro, rotherium stuff is a lot cheaper and I tried it as well, I confirm is dextro with a very high purity.
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@hellwind, thx4info, mate, nice fact provided by you here so far ;-)
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Personally I think iisthisisi gears is MORE than good right now, i don't understand why everyone is complaining about the speed marked being so bad (2 months a go.. it was REALLY bad!)
I'm very happy with this seller, fast and stealth shipping, and quality is really good.
Ok, may be we are not talking about pure (or-somewhat-close) amph sulphate like CC or BM, but anyway it kicks ass, and it's not cutted with bad solvents or coffeine either.
If the price is a concern, then it's another point of discussion, but for the quality itself, iisthisisi is really a legit seller with great communication and fast shipping.
I am happy so far as well. I liked the 30% (41% per weight) too, see review. I also tried the new 72% batch, which I assume is sold out by now. I'll add a review in a bit. For everyone who knows my creepily accurate skill of estimating purity, I think I made up my mind by now. I am too lazy to do it now.
A more general note: maybe think a bit about a vendors capacity and what load he can/wants to handle, before hyping him/her. If you push a vendor in to the "mainstream" you pretty much kill him. No one ever survived there. A lot of people don't appreciate the gear they get anyway. BM could have sent out 30% gear to most people and no one would have noticed (see PUK). I am guilty of hyping BM too much, hence me mentioning it now. We saw where it ended. :'( If a vendor has great gear and wants the spot in the limelight, I'll help (after I received my last order) but I won't start it on my own anymore. And I did hype him as much as his gear deserved it (that's quite a bit). Learn from my mistake and avoid it. The way to the "#1 vendor" spot looks more like a kamikaze mission to me.
Not saying hide good vendors, that won't help anyone either, but don't spoon feed it to every newbie out there who couldn't care less (or even notice) if he has 30% amph or 30% caffeine. There's currently no chemist afaik that sells his own gear. But that spot will be filled again because the demand exists now.
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Hey müslix,
well I suppose you are right. Even if not every seller is the same..if somebody is working REALLY well he will just hire some helpers and be sure the quality remain AT THE TOP to not jump to a big flop..at the end, also the seller would like a continuous, happy business in time for both sides. But I agree there are so many variables..and everything can just blow up (turning into a scammer, new batch total shitty, cutting stuff to satisfy in time all orders,..)
Therefore I'll follow your advices ;) I'll post my future review without hyping too much ;)
At the end we are always the same group of speed freaks here, except the newbie and casual users from time to time :D
(Ps: the dl-amph list is still up and running. I thought you tried the d-amph batch in your review? may be I got confused :D)
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good thought, müslix, I´ll keep your advice in mind from now on.
Anyway, your posting told me that we still learn and should over-think things from time to time.
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I do not agree, I think it would be enough, when those who actually sell quality speed would refrain from selling small amounts. I doubt many noobs would buy 5g for 150$, no matter how hyped it is, when they could get 15g of crap for the same price :).
Although not hyping good gear might lead to an overall lower quality in the long term..
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Yeah once established, vendors should start selling min 5 or 10g.
At least I would if I were to vend here.. Those 1g orders must be a huge PITA, taking up loads of time.
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yup, this seems a good compromise, and how it should actually work ;)
a good quantity of a good quality, when it's established :D
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Do not agree, if I want to try some speed of not so established and/or new vendors like e.g. Powerade (and there are a lot of vendors that come and go) I personally don't want to be obligated to buy a minimum of 5-10g with what I consider high risk transactions. Or at least provide an option for sampling stuff which can be ordered one time only.
Though I have to say much has improved in the meantime compared to 8-12 months ago. If maxhavelaar sends nice stuff and turns out to be a reliable vendor than I have imo three accessible sources for buying decent speed online now together with Amsterdope and iisthisisi. When reading the complains here, I can assure you back in the early days :) things were much worse..
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But the best days are behind us as well (late summer). I suggested prepackaging like 100x 1g orders for minimum effort, selling them off all at once which should give enough people the opportunity to test the gear and the vendor gets some quick money. win:win. It's not like we can puzzle our own frankenstein-vendor together anyway, vendors will have their own view on things. And that's most likely maximize profit. That's why every vendor is in this "game" - money. Maybe there is one or two that have another primary "value" they are doing this for, like love of chemistry. But let's be honest: money is everyone's #1
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I have a great review for Maxhavelaar . I'm happy to report. In fact I'll just copy+paste the FB I just left.
6 days to East Coast, small town, during busy mail season!
5/5- Stealth (Best I've seen out of 20 orders!)
5/5 Communication.
5/5 Quality - above average.
The guy is allright in my book. We had the "usual" discussion in PM's about NL-US and the whole "Post workers with sticky fingers" - We agreed to give it a go anyway. He was hesitant about doing escrow, even thought I have what I consider to be excellent stats;
Total transactions: 38
Total spent: $2271.86
Refund rate: 0%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 8 months
Though I can't blame a Vendor who has been burned by scam buyers.
All in all, a nice speed for the money. I went through a 4 day withdraw, so I'm a little more positive. - I don't test. Other than on myself. Not yet anyway, perhaps I'll buy a kit one of these days.
Overall, a nice clean speed high. Not overly speedy, not caffeieney.
Did 2 small lines an hour ago.
Gonna go weigh it at my friends house. I'll bet it weighs over, or it's at least an even gram, even after my 2 lines. Will let you all know for sure.
So maxhavelaar is A-OK for this buyer. - Could have just as easily gotten lost, I know.
I just wanted to add to the forum.
It's great to see so many people giving reviews on Vendors again.
Seems like this thread gets stuck in "off-topic" or too much drama.
Thanks to all who keep it what it should be.
Speed ya later!
- Jacko (Jagfug)
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Do not agree, if I want to try some speed of not so established and/or new vendors like e.g. Powerade (and there are a lot of vendors that come and go) I personally don't want to be obligated to buy a minimum of 5-10g with what I consider high risk transactions. Or at least provide an option for sampling stuff which can be ordered one time only.
That's why I suggested to stop selling <5g orders when the vendor is ESTABLISHED :P
Of course you, or me, are not going to buy 5 or 10g from a new vendor.. That's crazy 8)
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Give me a coulpe of days. I'll have the lab results of PremiumDutch's "60%" on friday. Let's hope for the best.
And for the people who want to get rid of the caffeine...try washing it with acetone. Works great and gets rid of all the nasty solvents as well.
I'm looking forward to the test results! How much weight was left after drying?
Got three grams dry speed of the 5 grams I bought. I confronted him with this and got a reship, witch is great service if you ask me. Could be the sign of a honest vendor but we'll know for sure on Friday ;)
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@müslix & knomo, word I didn't read your suggestion knomo, probably missed more things in this thread lately but I'm currently very much in 'customer protection mode' and the both of you too looking at your overall messages. Still too much big time aftersales problems/scamming going on and I really don't like a lot of vendors anyway many are assholes or will be assholes sometime in the future :P
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Give me a coulpe of days. I'll have the lab results of PremiumDutch's "60%" on friday. Let's hope for the best.
And for the people who want to get rid of the caffeine...try washing it with acetone. Works great and gets rid of all the nasty solvents as well.
I'm looking forward to the test results! How much weight was left after drying?
Got three grams dry speed of the 5 grams I bought. I confronted him with this and got a reship, witch is great service if you ask me. Could be the sign of a honest vendor but we'll know for sure on Friday ;)
Sounds very good indeed! I'm now testing a new dutch vendor as well (mercury31). He seems a very honest vendor in the C & M business and is just starting selling speed. Got a nice conversation with him and is advertising with quality over 60% up to 73%. Ofcourse only a labresult will tell the truth. I hope I can give a result before the beginning of 2013!
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I know most of you aren't in the US but a new domestic-only vendor started selling 30mg caps. From HiroProtagonist's product page:
Lab-made, pharmacuetical-grade racemic amphetamine sulphate (50/50 blend of dextroamphetamine and levoamphetamine). Equivalent to 30mg Adderall IR.
Right now I have 600 of these in stock available for immediate shipping.
Buy 5 and get 1 free (6 total).
Buy 10 and get 3 free (13 total).
Buy 20 and get 10 free (30 total)!
Looks promising and I don't suspect anyone has purchased them yet, but thought I'd just throw it out there and hopefully get some feedback/thoughts. As of now, the vendor has 9 transactions with other products over 18 days.
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@müslix & knomo, word I didn't read your suggestion knomo, probably missed more things in this thread lately but I'm currently very much in 'customer protection mode' and the both of you too looking at your overall messages. Still too much big time aftersales problems/scamming going on and I really don't like a lot of vendors anyway many are assholes or will be assholes sometime in the future :P
I do what I always did: compared characteristics from vendors I liked and created a profile of vendors I will buy from in the future, cutting down on the overall number of possibilities by quite a lot. May sound hard, in reality it isn't, I somewhat stole it from someone else as well. (yes, I love criminal minds :P).
always time for a smile, new vendor Eric Cartman:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/32b023d196
Description
We create our own speed, so we know how pure it is, and we can tell you:
This is the most pure speed paste you will ever see.
It has a slight pink color, smells very strong.
Well... where should I start? >:D >:D >:D Ah yes, in the last row, student NumNuts... What could be wrong here? ;D 8)
If I think about it, it probably would be the best paste I ever ingested, can't remember doing that before.
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Hey guys!
I have a short question about amphetamine itself.
A few minutes ago I made huge mistake. I put the 10g from Powerade on a mirror and put the mirror on a hotplate. I wanted to heat it slowly to dry it a bit faster than under normal conditions. Well, I got a phone call and totally forgot about my gear. As I walked into the kitchen the speed steamed and turned brownish. Immediately I put the speed on my desk.
So.... I know how stupid I am, but can you tell me how much worse the speed became through the heating? Is it more toxic, cancerogen or what ever? Some advice would be very nice. I'm so fucking disappointed.... Could slap myself to death.
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@müslix & knomo, word I didn't read your suggestion knomo, probably missed more things in this thread lately but I'm currently very much in 'customer protection mode' and the both of you too looking at your overall messages. Still too much big time aftersales problems/scamming going on and I really don't like a lot of vendors anyway many are assholes or will be assholes sometime in the future :P
I do what I always did: compared characteristics from vendors I liked and created a profile of vendors I will buy from in the future, cutting down on the overall number of possibilities by quite a lot. May sound hard, in reality it isn't, I somewhat stole it from someone else as well. (yes, I love criminal minds :P).
always time for a smile, new vendor Eric Cartman:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/32b023d196
Description
We create our own speed, so we know how pure it is, and we can tell you:
This is the most pure speed paste you will ever see.
It has a slight pink color, smells very strong.
Well... where should I start? >:D >:D >:D Ah yes, in the last row, student NumNuts... What could be wrong here? ;D 8)
If I think about it, it probably would be the best paste I ever ingested, can't remember doing that before.
LOL müslix, actually i don't see a single LEGIT line in the description :D
this is the biggest bull$hit even read on a vendor desc :D
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You should read the vendor page, talking as if they've sold here for over 15 years already ;D The vendors name really fits.. ::)
-Ratings given lower then 5/5 can't order again.
-We don't have a PGP key, instead you can use a privnote.com if you like
For security reasons we will not answer private messages.
Riiight.
What's funny here is; they won't answer PM's for security reasons, but advise on using privnote.. "if you like" :D
Q:I ordered with tracking, can I have the tracking code?
A:Only in resolution center if it hasn't arrived by then.
C:-)
I can hear Muslix' spidey-sense rambling all the way over here already :P
Also they be all secretive about their location and all, but based on the way they write I say they are probably Dutch.
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Hey guys!
I have a short question about amphetamine itself.
A few minutes ago I made huge mistake. I put the 10g from Powerade on a mirror and put the mirror on a hotplate. I wanted to heat it slowly to dry it a bit faster than under normal conditions. Well, I got a phone call and totally forgot about my gear. As I walked into the kitchen the speed steamed and turned brownish. Immediately I put the speed on my desk.
So.... I know how stupid I am, but can you tell me how much worse the speed became through the heating? Is it more toxic, cancerogen or what ever? Some advice would be very nice. I'm so fucking disappointed.... Could slap myself to death.
I am only guessing: Potency has most likely decreased, since some of the molecules might have broken up. We don't know the cutting agents, so no clue how it will affect your health, one guy had to vomit from drying the stuff.. In case you have money to buy new stuff - flush it. Otherwise make an acetone wash idk :(
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Hey guys!
I have a short question about amphetamine itself.
A few minutes ago I made huge mistake. I put the 10g from Powerade on a mirror and put the mirror on a hotplate. I wanted to heat it slowly to dry it a bit faster than under normal conditions. Well, I got a phone call and totally forgot about my gear. As I walked into the kitchen the speed steamed and turned brownish. Immediately I put the speed on my desk.
So.... I know how stupid I am, but can you tell me how much worse the speed became through the heating? Is it more toxic, cancerogen or what ever? Some advice would be very nice. I'm so fucking disappointed.... Could slap myself to death.
Do you have any idea how hot the plate has gotten? Amphetamine has a melting point of 200C, might just have been the cutting agents burning up..
Like Stoney said, either buy new or give it a acetone wash
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i can recommend that 72% speed which iisthisisi is selling.. took a 100mg capsule about 13 hours ago, still buzzing :D best speed i've had in quite a while
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Hey guys!
I have a short question about amphetamine itself.
A few minutes ago I made huge mistake. I put the 10g from Powerade on a mirror and put the mirror on a hotplate. I wanted to heat it slowly to dry it a bit faster than under normal conditions. Well, I got a phone call and totally forgot about my gear. As I walked into the kitchen the speed steamed and turned brownish. Immediately I put the speed on my desk.
So.... I know how stupid I am, but can you tell me how much worse the speed became through the heating? Is it more toxic, cancerogen or what ever? Some advice would be very nice. I'm so fucking disappointed.... Could slap myself to death.
Tough one, I know I've had a similar thing a couple of years ago when I've put my small mirror on top of the stove, as you wrote it turned from white to brownish but it didn't really bothered me at that time. (maybe it should have) I just tried some and it was still potent but the exact temperature where speed has been exposed to is a big factor. Try a small quantity and if you're still alive after a certain time report back.. ;) if you don't want to take the risk it's your call..
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hi guys,
i have never used speed before and got 1g of powerades second batch (the one that he sold around a week ago). i read up around 20 pages of this thread before and he seemed to be a good vendor with weak, but fine speed.
now in the meantime someone wrote that he had to vomit from unpacking and testing a little and another one "There is a very stinky aggressive solvent in it.
I had a spill on the table from this solvent and immediately the varnish disappeared and the surface was rough.".
so is this normal and save to use after drying or should i throw it away? i opened the package yesterday and let it dry and yes it smells very chemical (didnt get sick or anything of the smell so) and just looked at the forum now before i wanted to try it to make sure its save and now i read all this....
arent there any expierienced useres that tested it? im fine with coffeine (take 200-400mg daily since years) but now afraid of that solvents and dont want to get poisend. money is no issue. i intended to snort it.
thx in advance
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just make sure all you let it sit for a good while so that all the solvent has evaporated and you should be right
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/32b023d196
Description
We create our own speed, so we know how pure it is, and we can tell you:
This is the most pure speed paste you will ever see.
It has a slight pink color, smells very strong.
wtf, pink colour ::) ???
omg - what went wrong here? ;D
has anybody ever seen amph with or in pink colour before?
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actually, many years a go, at least here in DE and Switzerland, if you managed to get the pink or green speed (so-called-apfel-speed), it was a guarantee you had the most amazing speed around :D
I think it was just like a "watermark" of a really good amf producer.
I remember i had a line of this pinkie speed 9 years a go, i had to run out and go dancing like a crazy, it was incredible powerful stuff and least many many hours ;)
So nowdays they are trying this trick..if it's colored, it's da bomb, lol
But now I grown up and old, and I won't surely judge a speed only from the color =D
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i can recommend that 72% speed which iisthisisi is selling.. took a 100mg capsule about 13 hours ago, still buzzing :D best speed i've had in quite a while
thanks, i been looking for hours for a good speed vendor for OS and they all sound shit, ill try iisthisisi and see how it goes
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actually, many years a go, at least here in DE and Switzerland, if you managed to get the pink or green speed (so-called-apfel-speed), it was a guarantee you had the most amazing speed around :D
I think it was just like a "watermark" of a really good amf producer.
Same in NL hehe :)
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i can recommend that 72% speed which iisthisisi is selling.. took a 100mg capsule about 13 hours ago, still buzzing :D best speed i've had in quite a while
thanks, i been looking for hours for a good speed vendor for OS and they all sound shit, ill try iisthisisi and see how it goes
Damn, he doesn't post to Aus
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Hey guys!
I have a short question about amphetamine itself.
A few minutes ago I made huge mistake. I put the 10g from Powerade on a mirror and put the mirror on a hotplate. I wanted to heat it slowly to dry it a bit faster than under normal conditions. Well, I got a phone call and totally forgot about my gear. As I walked into the kitchen the speed steamed and turned brownish. Immediately I put the speed on my desk.
So.... I know how stupid I am, but can you tell me how much worse the speed became through the heating? Is it more toxic, cancerogen or what ever? Some advice would be very nice. I'm so fucking disappointed.... Could slap myself to death.
Tough one, I know I've had a similar thing a couple of years ago when I've put my small mirror on top of the stove, as you wrote it turned from white to brownish but it didn't really bothered me at that time. (maybe it should have) I just tried some and it was still potent but the exact temperature where speed has been exposed to is a big factor. Try a small quantity and if you're still alive after a certain time report back.. ;) if you don't want to take the risk it's your call..
Thanks for all the advice!
Yesterday night I had a plan to rock my study paper, which I have to finish until next Friday. After the mentioned disaster, I was like "Well you have to be sure, if it's lost all its potency or not, so take more than you would take usually" ---> mistake :)
I took me to a place, I didn't want to be, because of the work I got to do. Too heavy buzz, didn't manage it to read a complicated sentence, without forgetting what the previous one was about.
Conclusion: It's still working, but the colour is awful. The potency has decreased for sure, but no idea how much in percentage terms.
Into the bargain my apartment had stunk like a chinese chemistry factory. I think all the fumes that have evaporated were a bit harmful, too.
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i can recommend that 72% speed which iisthisisi is selling.. took a 100mg capsule about 13 hours ago, still buzzing :D best speed i've had in quite a while
pannekoek = pancake = pfannkuchen? Gotta love the Dutch language. Don't know much, but my favorite slurf = "nose" of an elephant. haha awesome if you German.
ITI's speed is good indeed. This latest batch took me a bit to get used too, but by now I do like it. Kick in the butt, lets get shit done kinda high. Reminds me of Powerade's Caffeine. Afaik this batch has sold out, with delay til reup. :( I hate that smell though. Makes me wanna puke. Maybe it's some pavlov's dog sorta reflex, I picked up with all the caffeine-gear on here. Prefer parachuting anyway.
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i can recommend that 72% speed which iisthisisi is selling.. took a 100mg capsule about 13 hours ago, still buzzing :D best speed i've had in quite a while
Is it just me, or does 13 hours sound way too fucking long for 100mg of amphetamine to keep you up there? I know I dose like a fool and my tolerance is higher than most, but I can't see 100mg lasting 13 hours unless it was an extended release formulation, or methamphetamine and not amphetamine?
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actually, many years a go, at least here in DE and Switzerland, if you managed to get the pink or green speed (so-called-apfel-speed), it was a guarantee you had the most amazing speed around :D
I think it was just like a "watermark" of a really good amf producer.
Same in NL hehe :)
Apparently there's pink amphetamine around in NL at the moment. Haven't tried it myself but people who did said that it wasn't very strong.
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Received 1g speedpaste from Powerade today to short the transit time for rutheniums d-amp.
I took 60 mg orally this morning and would estimate it to be something like 30% amp after drying and a bit of coffeine (but not much). But it's probably worth to mention that I have slight tolerance for coffeine.
It's obv not comparable with BM's, which I was on for two month or something, but I think it's worth the small price considering the short transit time within Germany.
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juergen is offering the phosphate again, but ~90 €/g is too much for a poor student :(
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/70cfd19974
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good news..if it's not a random scam ;)
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actually, many years a go, at least here in DE and Switzerland, if you managed to get the pink or green speed (so-called-apfel-speed), it was a guarantee you had the most amazing speed around :D
I think it was just like a "watermark" of a really good amf producer.
Same in NL hehe :)
Apparently there's pink amphetamine around in NL at the moment. Haven't tried it myself but people who did said that it wasn't very strong.
That's because of what hellwind said; it's used nowadays to make speed look like it's the bomb, while in fact it's crap just dyed pink :-\
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hi guys,
i have never used speed before and got 1g of powerades second batch (the one that he sold around a week ago). i read up around 20 pages of this thread before and he seemed to be a good vendor with weak, but fine speed.
now in the meantime someone wrote that he had to vomit from unpacking and testing a little and another one "There is a very stinky aggressive solvent in it.
I had a spill on the table from this solvent and immediately the varnish disappeared and the surface was rough.".
so is this normal and save to use after drying or should i throw it away? i opened the package yesterday and let it dry and yes it smells very chemical (didnt get sick or anything of the smell so) and just looked at the forum now before i wanted to try it to make sure its save and now i read all this....
arent there any expierienced useres that tested it? im fine with coffeine (take 200-400mg daily since years) but now afraid of that solvents and dont want to get poisend. money is no issue. i intended to snort it.
thx in advance
The speed paste you received most likely contains acetone, which yes, will strip paint of varnish off something.
Dry the paste completely (open the bag and leave it in the sun for an hour or so).
If you've never tried speed before, I would personally recommend eating it, instead of snorting it.
Speed is very powerful and it may be too strong for a new user if you snorted it. Just my opinion anyway. It wouldn't be a nice feeling trying speed for the first time and having too much. It hits pretty hard. That's my opinion anyway - it's completely up to you and others might say otherwise.
I'd recommend starting out with 50mg first and waiting 45 minutes to let it kick in fully. Consume more if you want to. I don't know the strength of purity of the speed, so it's hard to determine a good dose.
I'm sure you'll enjoy the speed anyway :-)
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Give me a coulpe of days. I'll have the lab results of PremiumDutch's "60%" on friday. Let's hope for the best.
Aw shit! Test results have been delayed for another week. I guess I can't complain as the government pays for all of this but waiting for the test results for 3 weeks really tests my patience.
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Review-Time this time, here we go...
I had 2 amph-orders about a week ago, the first from Powerade, the second from MaxHavelaar.
Powerade´s gear-review: That´s what I call wet. The stuff is really wet, as even liquid ran out of the bag after opening it.
But after drying it very smoothly, it became nice stuff, imo exactly as described and aspected. Order arrived quick, only a few days between ordering and delivery, and communication was professional, too. Shipping-method could be improved. but for domestic, it´s ok.
Btw. stuff for a nice price.
Respect, Powerade!
MaxHavelaar´s gear-review: also only positive facts here, fast shipping, professional communication, and shipping-method is really perfect!!
His stuff comes directly to consume, no drying needed. Definitively worth it´s price, as it is (nearly or absolutely?) pure, without any cutting imo. Big respect, Max!
I´m very satisfied with both orders to have my amph re-stocked for this year,
no need to order anything more. wonderful, with these qualities.
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I have to add an forgotten, but important fact about Powerade´s amph.
it has lost over 50% after drying, and only less than half stays very little.
But I don´t whine here about it, because I knew that sth like that will happen here.
Btw. the very lille amount that stays was definitely worth a try,
as the quality satisfies me really.
The amph from Max came totally dried in, really nice produced.
Both are high-graded and very strong, and it seems that both have no caffeine or other cutting-shit mixed within.
Let the weekend begin!
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I have to add an forgotten, but important fact about Powerade´s amph.
it has lost over 50% after drying, and only less than half stays very little.
But I don´t whine here about it, because I knew that sth like that will happen here.
Btw. the very lille amount that stays was definitely worth a try,
as the quality satisfies me really.
The amph from Max came totally dried in, really nice produced.
Both are high-graded and very strong, and it seems that both have no caffeine or other cutting-shit mixed within.
Let the weekend begin!
Well, I'm happy you're satisfied with your product. I wouldn't tolerate a 50% weight loss after drying my speed. The amph from MH is tested at 31% amfetamine purity (that's 42% purity for the entire product). The other 58% has to come from something. I guess it's caffeine, since all Dutch speed is mixed with caffeine (unfortunately). 31% is actually an above average product and therefore I think you don't notice the caffeine.
I'm still looking for an honest 60/70% amphetamine vendor, but that seems to be really difficult these days (while I'm seeing a lot of labresults around 70% at some popular Dutch forums lately, so hopefully some new vendors will come soon).
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Got an order from Evilution and Juergen (medical grade amphetamine phosphate) on the way.
Will review both - hopefully I can give back to the community after lurking this thread for 3 months and now understanding a bit better good amphetamine is - I've gone through 2g orders from Boymaster and Powerade.
Postage times are rather long to my country so may be awhile :P
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MaxHavelaar´s gear-review: also only positive facts here, fast shipping, professional communication, and shipping-method is really perfect!!
His stuff comes directly to consume, no drying needed. Definitively worth it´s price, as it is (nearly or absolutely?) pure, without any cutting imo. Big respect, Max!
Good to see that Max doesn't scam you with the wet stuff. How did you test the purity, if I may ask?
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His stuff comes directly to consume, no drying needed. Definitively worth it´s price, as it is (nearly or absolutely?) pure, without any cutting imo. Big respect, Max!
Can't access SR atm, but iirc Max Havelaar(sic!) doesn't even offer pure speed. Wasn't the listing something like 30% ?
edit: where is iisthisisi (ITI)? was talking to him, but now he's gone (?).
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His stuff comes directly to consume, no drying needed. Definitively worth it´s price, as it is (nearly or absolutely?) pure, without any cutting imo. Big respect, Max!
Can't access SR atm, but iirc Max Havelaar(sic!) doesn't even offer pure speed. Wasn't the listing something like 30% ?
edit: where is iisthisisi (ITI)? was talking to him, but now he's gone (?).
he is still there....??!?! :-\ :-\ :-\
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Anyone tried Evilutions speed lately?
Seems to have mostly good reviews on the product pages.
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Today I ordered 10 gram from Eric Cartman's purest pink speed.
For the first ten buyers he would double the amount ordered.
So next week I will receive 20 gram of the purest speed or a lot of caffeine with aceton,water or something else.
I hope it will be the first of course.
I bring this to the lab next Thursday I hope and keep you all informed.
Speedie
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Any new infos about BM and/or CC? Did they stop vending?
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Anyone feedback from the Poland sellers?
Now with powerade only local DE, MaxHavelaar and iisthisisi not on list anymore (out of stock?) we certainly need some other alternatives.. ;)
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Anyone feedback from the Poland sellers?
Now with powerade only local DE, MaxHavelaar and iisthisisi not on list anymore (out of stock?) we certainly need some other alternatives.. ;)
yea powerade change to local delivery only ... that sucks :'(
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did anyone tested my amphetamine allready?
regards,mercury31
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I think mine might be here sometime next week hopefully, will post as soon as it comes.
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I've been unable to get on here and check up for the last week or so. Last batch I got from Powerade was great other than losing almost 50%. I see he no longer ships international. Any new vendor pop up yet?
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Anyone feedback from the Poland sellers?
Now with powerade only local DE, MaxHavelaar and iisthisisi not on list anymore (out of stock?) we certainly need some other alternatives.. ;)
That's s great question and one I hope to at least attempt a contributing answer.
First off, I've only been into this "speed thing" since my shrink went into hospice (dying), and I had been getting supplemental Adderall on here last spring.
I say that just to let you know I'm certainly no expert or seasoned veteran on here, just because I ordered a lot of shit, or posted a billion posts.
So that brings us to, WHERE CAN I GET SOME HALFWAY DECENT SPEED???????????????
That question, burns in all of us, and will always be a changing. Just like the weather. As speed dealers we praised, and kissed the asses of, suddenly decide not to sell, or to only sell to their country of origin. (which seems redundant, because if you can get it, chances are your fellow countrymen can). - - - One mans opinion.
The last speed that I just ran out of (causing me to go nuts). was from Maxhavelaar- safe bet IMHO- while he has no active listings, since he's out of product (as any sensible Vendor should do, put in"vacation mode")
He did let me know he's restocking soon. - For my money, it was above average, in fact here is the FB that I left
6 days to East Coast, small town, during busy mail season!
5/5- Stealth (Best I've seen out of 20 orders!)
5/5 Communication.
5/5 Quality - above average.
I have a 1 gram order set to arrive any day now from Evilution - who looks very promising, will let you know. I'm praying for Monday, but with good old Christmas and the lazy UNION POSTAL WORKERS, - I'm making sure not to get my hopes up too high. (sense a little anger there???)
Dagobert is always good for speed and coke btw. I have a 2g pending for him, and if it's as decent as last time, I'm dropping another order in as soon as my next dose of speed arrives.
Yes, Powerade had us all lovey dovey with him/them. - - Let the conspiracy theories fly~! Don't think all that shit doesn't go through my mind too!. - Some Dutch bastards, who keep changing accounts every few months? Then laugh their way all the way to the bank, or bitcoin exchange or whatever. - That's all hyperbole. Yes. I know. - It's also "highly probable"~ See what I did there?
Please people, keep the latest good speed vendors coming. This is the best thread on the forum IMHO, though we do go off the rails.
Hey! We're only human, after all.
Or, maybe they're are aliens among us??? -
Yes, I definitely need a dose. Alcohol and caffeine just aint cutting it tonight (today) whatever!!!
Let us all get a nice package of speed in our stocking this Christmas !!!!
I'm allowed to fantasize, am I not ???
Peace my brothers and sisters.
Jagfug
PS On Poland Vendors, I have had excellent experiences with a few on the "benzos" front. Sometimes they (new vendors) just need a little advice as to how to improve, if you can tell them in a delicate non condescending way. - Poland is OK with me!
PPS Can we stop talking about POWERADE already??? Jesus Christ !!!!- Unless you live in "Ze Fathaland" that is "Deutschland" - (that Germany for those of you in southern California)
Powerade is DEAD to the rest of us. You can supply? You die! - (figuratively of course).
In fact, if he comes back on with International listings, I say we punish him "THEM" with at least a 10 day refusal to order. - See how many fiends can comply...lol (not holding my breath)
***Edit- also wanted to say I have another gram "test order" in with CrystalMethCat, after researching "they" might just be another "good" vendor on the ever expanding horizon of the Silk Road
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did anyone tested my amphetamine allready?
regards,mercury31
I'd be happy to! Send me a gram for $20 USD - put in "custom order for Jagfug69" I got like 21.50 USD left, and good 'ol SR, never lets you use all of your btc. - For some reason you have to deduct at least .01 btc. (for profit, I know).
Anyway, great picture of Freddy baby. - Turning 51 recently, you KNOW I was raised on Queen!
I don't care what he did in his private life, the dude was a musician whose qualities, we don't see anymore.
Seeing Alicia Keyes the other night at the Garden, (Madison Square), made me think of Freddy baby. I didn't know who she was until my kid told me.
The sound at that concert was amazing. I've gone there at least 100 times, 121212 had the best sound system ever.
Still wondering why the Stones only did 2 songs. - Sorry, "Off Topic" I know. - Maybe those shrinks were right about my adult ADD????
Peace out!
Jagfug69
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I've been unable to get on here and check up for the last week or so. Last batch I got from Powerade was great other than losing almost 50%. I see he no longer ships international. Any new vendor pop up yet?
I hate quoting myself, but it seems there isn't another go to vendor yet. I've still bought some coins to stock away for when another vendor pops up though.
My last purchase was from Powerade, I think it was his second re-up he was shipping. I lost more than I'd like after drying(2grams reduced to about 1.1grams) but it was very close to the better stuff MrFire was selling. The only difference I noted was a higher body load at higher doses. I ended up taking ~150mg(2x75mg doses within 4 hours of eachother. 1 oral, 1 nasal) on a weekend day and it was quite uncomfortable. Headache, very hard to socialize and talk to people. Weed/hash helped immensely though. Needed some benzo help to sleep. Staying under 100mg a day, and doing no more than two days in a row feels great though.
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he is still there....??!?! :-\ :-\ :-\
you mean ITI?! why wouldn't he? no comprende..˙ :( Couldn't login to SR for days now.
ah wht the fck
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Today I ordered 10 gram from Eric Cartman's purest pink speed.
For the first ten buyers he would double the amount ordered.
So next week I will receive 20 gram of the purest speed or a lot of caffeine with aceton,water or something else.
I hope it will be the first of course.
I bring this to the lab next Thursday I hope and keep you all informed.
Speedie
Eric Cartman looks very suspicious, i doubt u get anything from him.
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Eric Cartman looks very suspicious, i doubt u get anything from him.
agree that he looks suspicious. but it could very well be that the first few orders are good. just don't leave escrow until tried
If cartman doesn't send out anything, he won't get the money from escrow, so he has to send something as speedie said...
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dramstadam is back! just in time for christmas scams! I'd love to buy 100g from one of those guys, bring it to a lab and get all the money back from escrow. just for the fun of it.
price for jürgen's phosphate is f'in ridiculous.
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100g should leave you with at least 10g of good amphetamine once cleaned, so well worth the effort ;D
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did anyone tested my amphetamine allready?
Yeah I have consumed 150mg now and the quality is not _that_ great.. Think there's in it caffeine as well :(
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I just placed an order for some of BM's gear.. from my stash box in the bedroom. Moahahaha.
Instant delivery by girlfriend, yeah baby.
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shame on you valentinesmith, making us drug addicts jealous ;D.
Just received my order of iisthisisi 30% stuff. Snorted ~120 mg 5 minutes ago, which should be roughly the same as 50 mg of BM's (my usual nasal dose). Unexpected intense burning, my nose feels somewhat deaf and is a little swollen - never had that before.
But feeling is great so far moving myself to a Hackler & Kuch set.
EDIT: Actual review
The gear came in completely dry with very few clumsy parts, according to my shitty scale 20 mg were missing - so the weight was probably correct.
Its quite entertaining, maybe a little clearer and less horny than BM's gear, probably better for studying. Did not feel the need to re-dose after 3 hours.
Body-load is so far comparable to BM's gear (I wrote down my bpm one day - average was 98 bpm), I am having 100 bpm right now.
Price might look expensive with 15-17 €/g, but due to weight-loss and lower potency, probably cheaper than all the pastes being sold here right now.
Packaging was OK, but there is room for improvement.
The swollen-nose effect was quite intense, I guess I am allergic to something in this stuff, I doubt its lactose as I went though 3 g of BM's second batch, which was cut with lactose. I snorted everything trough my right nose-hole and it was swelling so much, that my nose was leaning to the left ;D, but it was mostly gone after an hour. I will snort again to make sure it wasn't just an spontaneous reaction. Also I will pm him asking, if he knows the cutting agent.
Conclusion: Too bad its out atm would buy more, but preferably the uncut stuff.
PS: Sorry I could only compare to BM, but I didn't touch anything else in the last 6 months ::).
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Who is BM?
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BabyMama
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So I've tested my 1g of maxhavelaar this weekend and I'm quit happy with it.
Received about 0.9g of snort ready speed powder, obviously I couldn't resist to take a small line on Thursday and it pulled me easily in a nice euphoric active speed rush for a couple of hours. For this to happen it must be at least in a decent amph purity range so my best guess is that the advertized purity of 31% is probably accurate. Because of my high caffeine tolerance it's hard for me to judge the amount of caffeine but I did notice some heart pounding when I was lying in bed after being awake for a couple of days. Don't know what caused it but obviously amphetamine also has its effects on the cardiovascular system so it could very well have been caused by that.
Especially for the price it's very okay stuff, I don't like that some vendors sell their speed very overpriced on sr but as a dutch guy myself I'm also used to the relatively low market price here.
edit:typos
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Did you stay awake using only MaxHavelaar's stuff? If so, how much is left of the 1gram? :P
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Did you stay awake using only MaxHavelaar's stuff? If so, how much is left of the 1gram? :P
Only used the 1 gram of MaxHavelaar, nothing is left but I'm not a heavy user in the sense that I take very large amounts at once I'd rather take frequent small 50mg lines.
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keep an eye out for this topic big vendor lottery :http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=94236.0
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Who is BM?
BoyMaster he is a Spanish chemist, who sold pure uncut amphetamines here, he has no active listings.. but might return next year.
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Did you stay awake using only MaxHavelaar's stuff? If so, how much is left of the 1gram? :P
Only used the 1 gram of MaxHavelaar, nothing is left but I'm not a heavy user in the sense that I take very large amounts at once I'd rather take frequent small 50mg lines.
Alright, will order 2g for myself to check it out - when my coins arrive, that is.
Hope I'll get it before the weekend, could really use it. Have confidence that it will happen because it's only a domestic order >:D
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ok guys got my iisthisis order today, only tested a small amount maybe 50--60mg. It was the 72% stuff and I didn't feel much and I don't really have much of an amp tolerance. How can I tell if I got the 30% stuff instead? :'(
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ok guys got my iisthisis order today, only tested a small amount maybe 50--60mg. It was the 72% stuff and I didn't feel much and I don't really have much of an amp tolerance. How can I tell if I got the 30% stuff instead? :'(
I think you just answered your own question, brother. Sorry.
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I'm having to resort to overpriced adderall which is no fun :( Any news from CC?
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Powerade is shipping again to EU! And adding 10% of product to each order.
well..for me the loss is 40% to 50% usually..but at least it's still a good price over quality.
So welcome back Powerade ;)
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For reminders, here's a test of PE's 1st batch:
Here are test results from Powerade previous batch I received about 2,5 weeks ago.
Amphetamine 17% and cafeine 35%. This is 17% from a max of 73% and the rest is a Salt. Yes I live in the Netherlands
So 17% of 73% is about 25% absolutely and not the advertised > 50%.
I lost 25% off the weight during drying so actually only 18.75% off the weight was amphetamine.
Two days ago I received 25 grams off the second batch.
I was A little disappointed about the weight after drying, Only 15 gr left from the 25 gr.
There is a very stinky aggressive solvent in it.
I had a spill on the table from this solvent and immediately the varnish disappeared and the surface was rough.
Not tested yet by myself or someone else.
I bring this to the lab on 20 December.
Speedie
I guess the second may be about 30/72%, although I really don't like how people keep recounting corrosive substances inside. Varnish remover?!
It's fucking crazy, first iisthis... runs out, then maxhavelaar. I guess it's either PE^ or you wait until the new year. I guess it's almost holiday time anyway.
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Just received my order of iisthisisi 30% stuff. Snorted ~120 mg 5 minutes ago, which should be roughly the same as 50 mg of BM's (my usual nasal dose). Unexpected intense burning, my nose feels somewhat deaf and is a little swollen - never had that before.
But feeling is great so far moving myself to a Hackler & Kuch set.
EDIT: Actual review
The gear came in completely dry with very few clumsy parts, according to my shitty scale 20 mg were missing - so the weight was probably correct.
Its quite entertaining, maybe a little clearer and less horny than BM's gear, probably better for studying. Did not feel the need to re-dose after 3 hours.
Body-load is so far comparable to BM's gear (I wrote down my bpm one day - average was 98 bpm), I am having 100 bpm right now.
Price might look expensive with 15-17 €/g, but due to weight-loss and lower potency, probably cheaper than all the pastes being sold here right now.
Packaging was OK, but there is room for improvement.
The swollen-nose effect was quite intense, I guess I am allergic to something in this stuff, I doubt its lactose as I went though 3 g of BM's second batch, which was cut with lactose. I snorted everything trough my right nose-hole and it was swelling so much, that my nose was leaning to the left ;D, but it was mostly gone after an hour. I will snort again to make sure it wasn't just an spontaneous reaction. Also I will pm him asking, if he knows the cutting agent.
Just wanted to add to the swollen nose thing, i also got my order of iisthisisi's 30% speed, and it really hurts like a bitch, my eyes start tearing up extremely much but it passes so no permanent damage yet. About the speed i don't really have much to say since i'm a first timer, don't have anything to compare to (how do you know if the speed is good?), but i can say that ive been going for 13 hours on 450mg spread out without tolerance then.
And how is it landing with some nice indica hash? Any tips for a first timer? :)
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Just received my order of iisthisisi 30% stuff. Snorted ~120 mg 5 minutes ago, which should be roughly the same as 50 mg of BM's (my usual nasal dose). Unexpected intense burning, my nose feels somewhat deaf and is a little swollen - never had that before.
But feeling is great so far moving myself to a Hackler & Kuch set.
EDIT: Actual review
The gear came in completely dry with very few clumsy parts, according to my shitty scale 20 mg were missing - so the weight was probably correct.
Its quite entertaining, maybe a little clearer and less horny than BM's gear, probably better for studying. Did not feel the need to re-dose after 3 hours.
Body-load is so far comparable to BM's gear (I wrote down my bpm one day - average was 98 bpm), I am having 100 bpm right now.
Price might look expensive with 15-17 €/g, but due to weight-loss and lower potency, probably cheaper than all the pastes being sold here right now.
Packaging was OK, but there is room for improvement.
The swollen-nose effect was quite intense, I guess I am allergic to something in this stuff, I doubt its lactose as I went though 3 g of BM's second batch, which was cut with lactose. I snorted everything trough my right nose-hole and it was swelling so much, that my nose was leaning to the left ;D, but it was mostly gone after an hour. I will snort again to make sure it wasn't just an spontaneous reaction. Also I will pm him asking, if he knows the cutting agent.
Just wanted to add to the swollen nose thing, i also got my order of iisthisisi's 30% speed, and it really hurts like a bitch, my eyes start tearing up extremely much but it passes so no permanent damage yet. About the speed i don't really have much to say since i'm a first timer, don't have anything to compare to (how do you know if the speed is good?), but i can say that ive been going for 13 hours on 450mg spread out without tolerance then.
And how is it landing with some nice indica hash? Any tips for a first timer? :)
Ye, second time I snorted it my nose did not swell - no clue what happened at the first time.. The taste is really disgusting btw.
Personally I really dislike smoking weed on speed, it gives me massive bodyload for 30 - 60 minutes. Especially combined with alcohol it fucks up your ability to think straight ("verschallert" as we say in germany), kinda liked it when I was younger though^^, but probably really unhealthy. 450 mg is quite a lot actually, I took 350 mg in 24 hours and could only sleep 4 hours last night.
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Just wanted to add to the swollen nose thing, i also got my order of iisthisisi's 30% speed, and it really hurts like a bitch, my eyes start tearing up extremely much but it passes so no permanent damage yet.
Cannot confirm this. Only tried once, as I don't snort non-pure stuff. Snorting speed sucks, always. This isn't even close to the worst.
I got over my snort this disgusting stuff paranoia on the last batch of pure ITI dl-amph and it hurt a bit. not too much. that batch really was fire. At least +85% per weight would be my guess.
so, that's it, optimistic as I am regarding speed, there won't be any more for me this year, so it's AWARD TIME!!
GEAR OF THE YEAR:
1) BM's first shipment of 3rd batch, 10g of pure 96% awesomeness: http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=a9ae7ced17be0a56fe4b4e9c7f3851f0.jpg
2) ITI's pure eph-batch (took me abit to get used to, but oh boy... f'in awesome)
3) CC's only batch - the non-sour version
FAIL/DISAPPOINTMENT OF THE YEAR:
1) CC's 2nd batch
2) everything FUK
3) BM's 4th batch (but expected)
WORST GEAR OF THE YEAR (FAKE/SCAM/RIPOFF):
1) PUK 1st batch (he has to win something)
2) AspirinCooper(sic!)'s 2nd batch
3) SuperTrips tied with AA/PD
Happy holidays/new year to everyone, this was no q-dance event, see you next year. maybe.
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Did anyone get an order of speed in from AfterHour before he went on break?? I've ordered from him regularly for MDMA and his quality has always been great, but I've never ordered speed through him. I just used the last of my BM batch two weeks ago and I'm dying for some good phet. Iisthisisi won't ship to the state so I'm SOL :'(
Crazy question.... If I transfer someone some coins could they ship me (in the states) some of iisthisisi good batch?? I'll transfer extra coins for the trouble.
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Hmm for gear of the year I'm going for this top 3:
1: CapeCrusader; any batch - even the sour one - was just awesomeness
2: BoyMaster; liked first batch best, 6-7 months ago, but all batches were great
3: GermanExpress; went through 20g or so of his stuff and I was really pleased with it. What he offered at that price was good
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1: CapeCrusader; any batch - even the sour one - was just awesomeness
2: BoyMaster; liked first batch best, 6-7 months ago, but all batches were great
3: GermanExpress; went through 20g or so of his stuff and I was really pleased with it. What he offered at that price was good
I think I placed the first order of batch 3 from BM, only minutes (or seconds :P) after he announced it ;D from the appearance alone (check pic) it was different than later shipments and in direct comparison didn't leave CC a chance (sorry CC, just keepin' it real - see original "train" review). CC could have taken #1 with the new batch and the promised 10g packs, hence the disappointment.. GE was nice and all, but considering ITI's last batch of fire although I didn't have all that much, there's no room for GE (or similar :P) among the top3.
BM-Fanboy til the end! :'(
Make gear that hits you like a train while you still are on/come down from top3 gear (cc) and you deserve #1.
edit: GE was only good at the time. In direct comparison it wouldn't stand a chance, not even with the price-tag. But at the time it was good indeed. The others were still better (even at their time (and the increased tolerance)).
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I'm for :)
1° - iisthisisi dl-amph 72% [ i haven't been sleeping since two days ] 8)
2° MrFUK the first start batch [ other batch Disgusting Thing!]
3° Boymaster [But , i boiled the speed in the anhydrous acetone] ;)
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Did anyone get an order of speed in from AfterHour before he went on break?? I've ordered from him regularly for MDMA and his quality has always been great, but I've never ordered speed through him. I just used the last of my BM batch two weeks ago and I'm dying for some good phet. Iisthisisi won't ship to the state so I'm SOL :'(
Crazy question.... If I transfer someone some coins could they ship me (in the states) some of iisthisisi good batch?? I'll transfer extra coins for the trouble.
I can see how the overseas market is not that good at the moment but even with that taken into consideration I wouldn't put my money on AfterHour. His prices are really low and so is the quality of his product probably. (Would love to see lab results on his stuff though :D)
Also; having someone forward your order to the states is asking to be scammed in my opinion. I think mail forwarding services excist but I really doubt you'll be able to do business with them without giving out your personal details.
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I'm for :)
1° - iisthisisi dl-amph 72% [ i haven't been sleeping since two days ] 8)
2° MrFUK the first start batch [ other batch Disgusting Thing!]
3° Boymaster [But , i boiled the speed in the anhydrous acetone] ;)
When did you get your iisthisisi stuff? How much do you use per dose? What is your tolerance like?
Tried 100mg and 150mg dosing of iisthisisi stuff and I was maybe buzzing for 4 hours maximum
Really disappointed, maybe I got the 30% stuff by mistake?
Going to try 200mg in one go tomorrow morning, see how that is. But if this was the 72% that would be dangerous?
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i can recommend that 72% speed which iisthisisi is selling.. took a 100mg capsule about 13 hours ago, still buzzing :D best speed i've had in quite a while
Is it just me, or does 13 hours sound way too fucking long for 100mg of amphetamine to keep you up there? I know I dose like a fool and my tolerance is higher than most, but I can't see 100mg lasting 13 hours unless it was an extended release formulation, or methamphetamine and not amphetamine?
i have to admit i was surprised too, especially since i have a huge tolerance (i pretty much use on a daily base) and bought it out of curiousity.. the first capsule i took really got me going for 12/13 hours, allthough i did snort a line of the speed i got here in holland.. i kept the rest of the 72% stuff for special occasion but for some reason it didnt work at all.. could be my tolerance for speed, but other stuff did work.. not trying to put iisthisisi in a position, dont get me wrong, ive had alot of fun just taking that 100mg so i dont know what in earth could be wrong..
how on earth is it so hard to find 65% speed these days? i bought a 100 (offline) grams last week and it smells/tastes like 70% dexamphetamine i used to have stored in my freezer.. nowadays all i can find is caffeine cutted or whatsoever :( from the 54 left im going to bring a sample to the lab tomorrow, friend of mine does the same for another probable supplier. really hoping for something good coming, i dont understand why people choose money and sell cutted-up crap. I can understand they are dealers but what about users like us?
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i can recommend that 72% speed which iisthisisi is selling.. took a 100mg capsule about 13 hours ago, still buzzing :D best speed i've had in quite a while
pannekoek = pancake = pfannkuchen? Gotta love the Dutch language. Don't know much, but my favorite slurf = "nose" of an elephant. haha awesome if you German.
ITI's speed is good indeed. This latest batch took me a bit to get used too, but by now I do like it. Kick in the butt, lets get shit done kinda high. Reminds me of Powerade's Caffeine. Afaik this batch has sold out, with delay til reup. :( I hate that smell though. Makes me wanna puke. Maybe it's some pavlov's dog sorta reflex, I picked up with all the caffeine-gear on here. Prefer parachuting anyway.
pancake it is hahaha :) dont know why i ever choose that nickname..
i've had some of powerade's final batch (before he stopped doing foreign orders) too and it looked a bit yellow at first..I lost alot of weight and i took it with me to a party with another package of speed and the taste/smell was horrible.. doesnt say anything about the speed in the end but it wasnt a great product to snort.. too bad i can only bring one sample to the lab, more curious what that 55 gram i've got left is all about tbh :p
weird thing about that bulk of speed i got, it loses alot of weight (as usual) and while it doesnt weigh shit you keep so much speed.. anyone seen that before? previous ounce i bought also had alot of weightloss but also didnt seem to be alot when it was completely dry..
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When most of you who mention " I did 10mg" and such other incremental amounts. . Are you actually measuring on a scale when you're doing the speed, or just "eyeballing" (estimating by eye)?
I''m too impatient (lazy) for that. I just scoop some out with my stiletto blade, and make a line. I have a scale, but it just seems so tedious, especially if I get bingey, which happens a lot.
Although you guys are giving me a good idea. My stash might last longer, if I start measuring out 50mg amounts, and putting them in capsules or something, as a way of conserving speed. Giving me a way to keep track. Then I'd realize, "Holy shit! I did 500mg in one day???" (it happens, not bragging about my stupidity)
On my 4th day with no speed. Sucks to be me right now ;(
Waiting on a Dagobert, a Crystalmethcat and an Evilution order. Hopefully tomorrow is the day one of those comes! And hopefully Powerade starts shipping to US (or at least to us "preferred customers overseas" as I was promised in a PM before he closed shop)
10 more hours till mailman comes . . . tic .. tic.. tic..
:?
Maxhavelaar was the last I had, and it was decent. Better than Powerade, IMHO. No test equipment here.
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2° MrFUK the first start batch
disqualified.
no offense, but before everyone and his mom starts making rankings, here some rules (if you want to be taken seriously :P):
1) objectively, the best were: BM, CC, ITI, GE. Either they are/were/will be labtested, Or they had the best (outstanding) SR-gear at the time.
2) Naming FUK in the top3 disqualifies you, unless you tried all of the above because of 3). (exception: Flyerz1934)
3) You should have gone through at least 30g (or tolerance equivalent) of at least 3 gears named in 1), or you just don't have a comparison.
You can't vote on the Oscars if you watched only half the movies. Or only the first 30 minutes.
4) If you MUST rate anyway, at least clearly state what you have tried or what top-gear you didn't try (so everyone can judge your n00b-factor :P).
"wenn jeder und seine Mudder rappt dann geht das nicht mehr klar" ~ bo, das
Thanks. The Speed Committee.
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1; - Boymaster (tried every batch of him, all in all together about 35g, maybe the best or 2nd best i had in my 10 year speed carrer)
2; - German Express (i´ve had only 5g , but awesome stuff)
3; - not sure, maybe CC, only tried 1g of his first sample and 2 g of the first official Batch. Great Stuff but i´d definitely choose BM´s stuff, cause it´s effects are more what i prefer.
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Best speed:
1. MrFUK (that good batch)
2. CC both batched I tried)
3. BM
Worst speed:
1. OldAmsterdam
Best vendor:
CC (until he went AWOL)
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When most of you who mention " I did 10mg" and such other incremental amounts. .
Then they are newbs. No offense, but what regular user gets any buzz off 10mg? half an adderall tab?
When did you get your iisthisisi stuff? How much do you use per dose? What is your tolerance like?
Tried 100mg and 150mg dosing of iisthisisi stuff and I was maybe buzzing for 4 hours maximum
Really disappointed, maybe I got the 30% stuff by mistake?
Going to try 200mg in one go tomorrow morning, see how that is. But if this was the 72% that would be dangerous?
when did you get yours? I had all. Tolerance: high. Why don't you bump once the buzzing stops? No amph gets you buzzing for 24hrs straight. You buzz, buzz fades, you are on speed. With clean gear it's a bit weird at first.
Example: CC's only batch (there was only one btw, I received a second non-sour sample) was so clean, I did 150-200, buzzed a bit for 3-5hrs, took 200 again, buzzed a bit, more, more (hm, why no buzz, all so clean?), all within first 20hrs, no more bumps and suddenly it's 80hrs later...
edit: wanna buzz for 10+ hours straight, then you need BM. There's not a second where you'll question of you are on speed. The body high is the best reminder.
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Best vendor:
CC (until he went AWOL)
Why?
I mean, yes for me at least, I got a nice sample, two versions, custom orders way ahead of regular listings, good prices. Reliable vendor and fun/informative to chat with. Nice guy overall.
For me it would be almost a tie with ***** ;D as the above is true for ***** as well, but ***** wins because ***** saved the day when everyone was gone. ***** also had the better ordering process, by far.
Still hoping for CC's 2nd batch, but I ran low on hope by now, same for BM. I think there will either be new vendors or it's gonna suck for the next 0.5 years again.
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*smart-ass-mode* August was BM's third and so far last batch, so no you did not spot him early *cough* :P
I fear I am kinda disqualified for the voting, because 3 g of BM's second and 6 g of BM's third batch lasted 6 months for me, didn't took anything else, actually I "gave" the remaining 2 g of GE to a friend, which I currently regret..
before that I had 6? g from amsterdope, which was "OK", meaning still far from good..
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When most of you who mention " I did 10mg" and such other incremental amounts. . Are you actually measuring on a scale when you're doing the speed, or just "eyeballing" (estimating by eye)?
absolutely..
but some speed is heavier in weight then other speed..So 1 full capsule of SPeed A could weigh much more/less then a full capsule of Speed B
but i dont care about the weight, i want quality :))
brought a sample to the testcenter here in holland (still got 45 grams left so in doubt if i should renew) but apperantly the lab doesnt test all of the speed.. so i have to wait till Januari and hopefully ill have more info.. in doubt if i should buy another 100 without knowing whats in it..
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I can't wait for the new year, I hope we get some new vendors and also would be nice to have some come back. I regret not getting any BM or CC stuff. I've also learned to order more than 1 or 2 grams when a decent vendor comes along. Going to set aside some coins for more quantity next time.
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I concur. I hope CC comes back in the new year.
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The very first batch of BM was shortly after I regged this account. I only remember 1 review: red OD'ing on 50mg. hehe, fun times.
The 30g was maybe a bit high and at a 2nd thought it was not even possible to get 10g from every vendor for everyone, so adjust for your tolerance. 3-5g should be enough. I also had only 5g of BM's 2nd batch which was also pure fire at the time. Just wanted to avoid tons of 1) FUK 2) jurgen 3) AAkoven b/c haven't tried any others kind of posts ;)
*smart-ass-mode* August was BM's third and so far last batch, so no you did not spot him early *cough* :P
I fear I am kinda disqualified for the voting, because 3 g of BM's second and 6 g of BM's third batch lasted 6 months for me, didn't took anything else, actually I "gave" the remaining 2 g of GE to a friend, which I currently regret..
before that I had 6? g from amsterdope, which was "OK", meaning still far from good..
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To add something useful:
For speed comedown... if you have these sorta sleep attacks and sleep binges, where you are tired as hell, which almost feels like narcolepsy... I found modafinil to help a bit, what's even better is Armodafinil (Nuvigil/Waklert - basically the d-amph of modafinil). I need to take quite a bit, as there seems to be a cross-tolerance with amph, but I need less than I would need with modafinil and it seems to be smoother overall. For me this works so well, that one hour after taking enough (dosage will vary individually by a lot ofc) I almost don't notice anything from comedown/wd.
This also stimulates Dopamine-Receptors a little bit (but it ain't a DRA like amph., IIRC), so it's not a good idea if you are planning to fully restore Dopamine quickly. If you wanna do that you have to suffer, no way around it :P One more IMPORTANT NOTICE: do not mix with benzos, as it may increase the benzo level in your blood. Or at least be aware of this and cut down on dosage. They also don't work to come down from (Ar)modafinil, for that you need a Dopamine-Antagonist, some Antihistamines work very well like Promethazine.
I tested this only on myself (= it works for *me*), no animals were harmed in the process (yet) and I have to say it works surprisingly well. Don't do it every day, only when I need to be fit. AHs also help with sleeping through the whole night. AHs also potentate benzos, so if used to come down from (Ar)modafinil, you should be at least 3x as cautious regarding dosage.
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*smart-ass-mode* August was BM's third and so far last batch, so no you did not spot him early *cough* :P
Smart ass mode??? - Am I the only one who doesn't get that??? Was that a posters name??
Anyway, in hindsight (checked my feedback left for BM) - I was lucky if I got his shit as early as September. Boymaster really fucked up though. Great speed, but check his feedback for the last month or two. How could orders still be finalizing? Well like 2 out of 20 that actually were shipped/delivered. It also says "was last seen today" So he's lurking. Who knows? Maybe his DOC got him all fucked up after making a killing on Silk Road?
I don't get it how any of you would even consider ordering from him again. Looks like he went "scamo", most likely just went "wacko" on whatever shit gets him off.
I mean with a name like "BoyMaster" - I wonder if he realizes how that name is perceived by people in English speaking countries? To me it sounds like the new "Twink Pimp" at the prison! LMAO!
Anyway, fuck him and his scary great speed.
I'm still out. Bummed out. Cranky. Don't know if I should fuck around with some more lines of Nuvigil. - Shit had me uncomfortably speedy yesterday. Got me out of "this" feeling, so I guess I'll indulge. Weird shit that Nuvigil. It's like if there was a beer that just made you stupid without all the good buzz of getting drunk. Or weed that just made you paranoid, and no buzz. I think that shit is still in my system from yesterday, and I've just had a 5 hour sleep!
Hoping mailman brings Evilution's order. Been 14 days (I'm in US Evilution is in Belgium). Someone else said "an even 14 days to East Coast USA" so I'm hoping that's about right. Will update y'all if I get it, and what I think, based on my limited expertise with this drug. I think getting old (50) is what made me love speed. You get sluggish, tired, all that old age crap. Amphetamine is like a fountain of youth! - I was 245 lbs (6' 2") Now I'm a healthy 170 lbs. BP is normal, used to be high, cholesterol was high, now it's normal. When I told the doctor it was adderall, I got the big lecture, "That's not for weight loss". - The proof is in the pudding! How can a doctor argue with results? All the maladies of middle age, taken care of with one drug? - To me that's a success story. Never would've done it on my own. Didn't care. Was fat, dumb and lazy. - I'm still dumb, just not as much... ;-)*
Sorry for the mental diarrhea.
Oh, yeah. anybody know anything about CrystalMethCat ?? - I ordered 1g speed to test. Then I get a PM saying "Your order is in transit, please FE" Huh??? No way honey.
Pretty sure it's a chick. Writes like a chick anyway. Here's a paragraph from the listing page for the 1g;
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Heres ma listing for 1g of my new Speed Paste.
Dont know about purity but i usually have
several types of SpeedPaste in Stock so u
wont be disappointed .
And if ordering more than a gram, ill create a
pack of my different batches.
No FE required ! 30% Refund, more isnt possible at the moment.
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ma lisitng?? - is that a mistake or is that some cutesy girl talk shit, like I've seen on fakebook. God how I loathe that site !
Anyway, I hope I get to try one of her "batches". Sounds like Speed Roulette to me. Gee will I get the shiitty batch, or the mediocre one???
Don't worry, I'm not going to FE. It says right in the add, she doesn't require it. WTF???
Also just above that she put this "update" - though there's no "DATE!!!" - pet peeve of mine. Vendors who write ***Update*** - then don't put a DATE !!!
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UPDATE : Because of the growing number of "dissapeared" Shippments, customers from following countries unfortunately have to FE before i ship and wont get any refund anymore !
RUSSIA, FINLAND, AUSTRALIA, SUISSE !!!!!
RUSSIA, FINLAND, AUSTRALIA, SUISSE !!!!!
All orders will be shipped of course, but only at your own risk !
I handle every order the same and never didnt ship any order so no need to not giving a 5/5 !!!! Customers who order from me agree to this and will be blacklisted after any negative feedback ! Im sorry but i have to do this !
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No you don't HAVE to do anything. You choose to do this.
And what's with all the weird capitalization's, and "text shorthand"?? On a SR ad???
I wish I had noticed these red flags back when I ordered. I get so caught up in price, shipping, feedback, etc, that I don't see the overall "big picture".
I hope I'm wrong and it's just the "out of speed blues" making me suspicious.
Time will tell.
Well, some vendors just have to learn the hard way. From us on the forums!!!
Gee blacklisted! Wow, then I can't buy from you? I'm terrified!
I'm just killing time bitching. Sorry I'll stop now.
Mail comes in about 2 1/2 hours.
Keep you posted - jagfug
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@Jagfug
-The problem with the last orders has been explained, it will be solved as soon as possible with either reship or refund. No one has been scamming here, it was an unfortunate mistake. Anyway, 24 orders from 1214 didn't arrive, most of them in the last incident. I gives us a success rate of 98,023% which I think is good enough considering the problems that this business face.
-The name was set by a non-english speaking person. Now it can't be changed, so it will remain as it is. Like it or not, it's not my problem.
If you don't want to buy from us, nice, just fuck off and stop writing bullshit and messing up things.
Greets
BM
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Eyy BM :D Good to hear something from you.
My Christmas wish is the return of CC so there will be 2 superior speed vendors, because it turns out trying to manage the section alone is kinda impossible :)
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Past seller speed top ten, monologues and flames..surely ppl is a hell busy near xmas I see :D
Glat to read you BM, really hope Santa will stay at home this xmas and prepare a lot of bags for us. Don't worry if delivery is after xmas! ;)
I'll just burn your last 0.7 of the last batch i still have here tomorrow, since the world didn't end today.
A white-sniffy-happy xmas to all SR Speed forum members.
PS: Any news from Eric Cartman and polish speed sellers meantime?
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I got the lab results from the product advertised as 60% amphetamine from PremiumDutch http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/da8e0d2abf His shop is closed til January 2nd so no products are listed @ the moment. The lab results are 40% amphetamine, 37% caffeine. Not bad but not the 60% as advertised.
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First post here from a longtime lurker. I hesitated a loooooooong time to order something on SR cuz I thought it was all one big scam, even the forums lol. Paranoia sucks I guess.
Anyway, here's a quick review of 5 grams >50% speed paste from POWERADE (according to seller's listing) for what it's worth. I'm a speed n00b and the only testing kit I have is my nose. I don't even have an accurate scale (wifey is buying me a shiny one as one of my Xmas presents).
Again, keep in mind, I only recently started doing speed (first time was in august) so I don't have a lot to compare with nor do I have a high tolerance. I think this is only the 3rd time I've bought speed by myself. The other times it was always a "present" from friends and I'm not at all a regular user. This might change though, since I now trust SR lol. Let's hope I don't turn into a junk. It's waaaay too easy to get stuff :D.
The review:
1.Ordering and shipping:
Just clicked order without knowing what to expect, didn't communicate with seller since I didn't feel the need to. Even though I have very, VERY low buyer stats, the seller seemed to be ok with escrow, or maybe he didn't check or care.
I placed the order on sunday 16 december very late at night or even monday morning very early and it arrived this morning, friday 21 december. Shipping was inside EU obviously. Very acceptable in my book.
2. Packaging and opening:
Package was pretty stealthy and sneaky. Since I didn't expect it to arrive today already, I was like wtf is this now when I found it in my mailbox. Then I realized what it probably was and hurried back inside.
The paste was still very wet and since I have no experience with paste, it was quite a mess to get it out and I probably lost some of the product already in the process. (if anyone knows a good method, please lemme know).
Very strong, typical chemical speed smell. The smell was mostly gone after drying.
3. Nose test:
After finally getting most of it out on a plate I heated in the microwave I started chopping it up to dry and left it after that to dry some more. Since my scale is not accurate at all I can't tell too much about the weight wet and dry but it seemed not too bad. Once dry I ended up with about 3.5 grams of beautiful snow-white powder. The scale only goes by .5 grams so it can be anything between 3.5 and 3.9 grams. Next week I get a better scale for Christmas, like I said. All in all the loss was acceptable, especially since I probably lost some of it with the getting-it-out-of-the-baggie fiasco
Around 1 pm I decided it was time for a test round. I layed out 2 toothpick sized lines. Started with only the first one cuz I don't know how strong this stuff is. The burning in my nose was pretty intense the first 30 seconds or so and my eyes were tearing but then went away completely. The first few minutes my nose seemed to feel a little bit numb, this always and only happens when I snort speed. Maybe some product they use for cutting?
Effects kicked in nicely after 5-10 minutes and it gives a nice speed buzz. Made me euphoric, chill and very talkative but not hyperactive. My heartbeat is happy too it seems. I've had speed before that made my heart start pounding like I'm running a marathon or something. With this product everything seems to be under control so far.
Around 5.50pm I snorted down the 2nd line just for the hell of it and now I feel pretty tight, a bit too tight for my liking but I'm sure the experienced speeders amongst us can appreciate this feeling.
Conclusion: All in all I'm pretty happy with POWERADE's latest stuff from batch 10/12/12. It's not top of the line stuff (no idea if it's really >50%) but still very good for a decent price, fast shipping and an enjoyable speed-rush that can get you thru the day or night or even both. I'm ordering more of this stuff, that's for sure! Still waiting for Evilution speed and iisthisisi 30% stuff to arrive though. Time will tell.
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I would order with a seller like BM who has over 98% shipping receiving rate and the best speed any day. This is the Silk Road -- most sellers do not have such great qualities (fake advertising, selective scamming, etc). Glad to see you're still around BM...my coins are waiting! You've become a legend among my mates here, I know we all are anxiously waiting your return to the market!
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I had also had a question regarding amphetamine sulfate that I know someone like BM would be able to answer due to his chemistry skills. Why is it that when I orally ingest BM's sulfate, it requires a very very small amount to get me extremely amped -- high body load and extreme rush, but when I IV BM's sulfate I can easily inject several times more and I don't get the same body load (a good thing), but shouldn't IV be more powerful and use less? I am guessing it has to do with injecting bypassing first pass metabolism (or something like that)...
Also, why has the US never had any amphetamine on the drug market? Heck, I can't even call the stuff speed as people think I mean meth. Is it because adderall has taken over the market? I feel like if people here could taste good quality amphetamine sulfate there would be a huge demand on par with evil meth (I say that having experience).
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I got the lab results from the product advertised as 60% amphetamine from PremiumDutch http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/da8e0d2abf His shop is closed til January 2nd so no products are listed @ the moment. The lab results are 40% amphetamine, 37% caffeine. Not bad but not the 60% as advertised.
40% purity as a freebase but actual purity is 54,7% as a sulphate salt. Remember that vendor sell amphetamine in salt form (not as a base) and purity should be advertised (shown) as salt. Why should vendors show purity measured as a freebase when they sell amphetamine in the salt form!?
Vendors should state purity x% measured as a sulphate or freebase.
Freebase/salt equlent is always the same!
Its wrong to call salt part as impurity. Actually, h2so4 bonded to the amphetamine base molecule is a acid not an salt. Whole thing is an salt, whole molecule e.g. (amphetamine base + H2SO4 -> Amphetamine salt) when bonded together by ionic bonds gives organic salt.
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Your first question relates more to pharmacology than chemistry, I don't know if a chemist would know the answer to it or not. I certainly don't.(which isn't saying much!)
As for your second question, amphetamine is much harder to synthesize en mass than its methylated brother, the precursors are harder to obtain, information regarding the synth technique is not as widely accessible, and the duration is much less.. I'd say that most people looking to make money from drugs would be much more inclined to synth meth than amph. To be honest, until I started using SR, I had always identified "Speed" as essentially meth that wasn't big shards. Thats the association almost everyone in Australia has with the word 'speed' and how its taught in drug ed. in school etc.
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40% purity as a freebase but actual purity is 54,7% as a sulphate salt. Remember that vendor sell amphetamine in salt form (not as a base) and purity should be advertised (shown) as salt. Why should vendors show purity measured as a freebase when they sell amphetamine in the salt form!?
Vendors should state purity x% measured as a sulphate or freebase.
Freebase/salt equlent is always the same!
Its wrong to call salt part as impurity. Actually, h2so4 bonded to the amphetamine base molecule is a acid not an salt. Whole thing is an salt, whole molecule e.g. (amphetamine base + H2SO4 -> Amphetamine salt) when bonded together by ionic bonds gives organic salt.
Not all vendors find this subject so interesting that they even know the difference I'm sure, but please let's avoid to discuss this over and over again because this thread is kinda stuck in a loop sometimes ;)
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Thats the association almost everyone in Australia has with the word 'speed' and how its taught in drug ed. in school etc.
Speak for yourself dude, some of us were actually born in the 50's 60's and 70's, we are not all teenaged self-centered facebook socialisers.
I grew up with old fashioned amphetamines, white powdered "speed" also came in a paste form.
A lot of skinheads used to sell it, as it was linked to Hitlers own personal use and the administration to the SS troops.
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I got the lab results from the product advertised as 60% amphetamine from PremiumDutch http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/da8e0d2abf His shop is closed til January 2nd so no products are listed @ the moment. The lab results are 40% amphetamine, 37% caffeine. Not bad but not the 60% as advertised.
40% purity as a freebase but actual purity is 54,7% as a sulphate salt. Remember that vendor sell amphetamine in salt form (not as a base) and purity should be advertised (shown) as salt. Why should vendors show purity measured as a freebase when they sell amphetamine in the salt form!?
Vendors should state purity x% measured as a sulphate or freebase.
Freebase/salt equlent is always the same!
Its wrong to call salt part as impurity. Actually, h2so4 bonded to the amphetamine base molecule is a acid not an salt. Whole thing is an salt, whole molecule e.g. (amphetamine base + H2SO4 -> Amphetamine salt) when bonded together by ionic bonds gives organic salt.
Not all vendors find this subject so interesting that they even know the difference I'm sure, but please let's avoid to discuss this over and over again because this thread is kinda stuck in a loop sometimes ;)
Just wanted to point out of acutal purity of 54,7% of particular vendor is pretty close to advertised 60%, nothing else :)
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The lab results are 40% amphetamine, 37% caffeine. Not bad but not the 60% as advertised.
If dutch and not specifically pointed out % per volume/weight/wtfever it's the freebase equivalent.
Why would someone mix amph almost 1:1 with caffeine? Ruining a decent product!? I don't get that, it may kick in faster and bridge the gap until the amph kicks in, but that amount just ruins it. It's like washing all your white shirts with a color bleeding red sock. AA, that's just st00pid. Even if he gets good gear you can't buy it, because it's still fucked up lol.
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As for your second question, amphetamine is much harder to synthesize en mass than its methylated brother, the precursors are harder to obtain, information regarding the synth technique is not as widely accessible, and the duration is much less..
disagree. how hard it is should depend on the precursor alone. If you look at the literature you'll find meth(amph) routes of synthesis and their precursor are very often similar (P2P/BMK, p2np "nitropropane", eph should all work for both) and grouped together as if they are the same. Precursors are therefore as easy/hard to obtain as for amph. Amph is just more popular in Europe. I think that's a "cultural" thing. If by duration you mean half-life then it's dl-amph > meth, so the other way around. Literature about synthesis is easily available, it's the internet after all. Understanding it is the tricky part. For a lot of routes you can even find patents or original research papers.
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Yeah, I agree Muslix.
I would rather to have amph mixed with some inactive then to have caffeine or some other active drug what have major influence on overall effect.
Caffeine is bitch to remove and I am too lazy to do it anyway :/
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@Jagfug
-The problem with the last orders has been explained, it will be solved as soon as possible with either reship or refund. No one has been scamming here, it was an unfortunate mistake. Anyway, 24 orders from 1214 didn't arrive, most of them in the last incident. I gives us a success rate of 98,023% which I think is good enough considering the problems that this business face.
-The name was set by a non-english speaking person. Now it can't be changed, so it will remain as it is. Like it or not, it's not my problem.
If you don't want to buy from us, nice, just fuck off and stop writing bullshit and messing up things.
Greets
BM
Boymaster !!! - Welcome back to the forums!! - Sorry, but I knew I'd bring you out of hiding with that! - It was all a rouse to get your attention. (Psych major 1st year of University)
I'm glad you ended it with "greets". Show's no hard feelings. - I'm just like the rest that LOVED your speed, prices, and delivery time and stealth.
I'm not fucking things up. I hope you realize that. I just wanted to "bring you out" here, and I succeeded. I hope my fellow amph forum people appreaciate that.
They've been dying to hear from you, as if you were a Rock Star, that hasn't put out an album in a year!!!
I'm not joking! Read back in the posts. You are still considered #1, by the majority of the Veterans on here.
I'm just a little wise ass kid (51) from NYC ! You know how us New Yorkers are. - at least back in the day. Now I don't even recognize the place. So clean and sanitized.
So thanks for coming out of the woodwork, and defending your honor Boymaster. - and sorry for attacking the name. - I mean look at my name!!! - Kinda wide open for jokes there.
Jagfug is an old nick name given to me by my older sisters boy friends who were all tripping their faces off during the early 70's.
It's a variation of Jack+Fuck, and this guy wrote a comic strip for the HS newspaper, and called it "The adventures of jagfug" and it was purely for stoners and trippers.
We thought he'd be famous, but I found the guy sleeping in back of a dumpster by a beer distriubutor, during the late 80's "rehab" craze. Where even I got straight for 7 years.
Had to get that Quaaylude addiction out of my system somehow!!
Anyway, no hard feelings.
I just wanted to challenge you to come on here.
We'll all be back, including myself, as soon as you announce your return !!!
Do it under another name if you want! Just tell us! - There's so much negative feedback on that name now, It's really pointless, unless you know you can rely on those on here that are faithful customers.
Either way. Feliz Navidad Boymaster. - Sorry for the Comedy Roast. - But I'm glad you made it to the Holiday Party !!!
Everyone!! Raise your glass, bong, foil, needle, vaporizor, pill vial, whatever, to BOYMASTER !!!
Never got my Evilution order today. Did get some nice Valium from alphabet1 - good dealer. I did some Nuvigil, and with the Valium and beer, I'm kinda just allright tonight.
Tomorrow (Saturday) is another mail delivery day, so I'll let you know if it comes then. - Had to extend the date in resolution, but it's to be expected this time of year.
Happy Christmas Everyone !!!
No hard feelings Boymaster !!! - I still love you too !!!
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As for your second question, amphetamine is much harder to synthesize en mass than its methylated brother, the precursors are harder to obtain, information regarding the synth technique is not as widely accessible, and the duration is much less..
disagree. how hard it is should depend on the precursor alone. If you look at the literature you'll find meth(amph) routes of synthesis and their precursor are very often similar (P2P/BMK, p2np "nitropropane", eph should all work for both) and grouped together as if they are the same. Precursors are therefore as easy/hard to obtain as for amph. Amph is just more popular in Europe. I think that's a "cultural" thing. If by duration you mean half-life then it's dl-amph > meth, so the other way around. Literature about synthesis is easily available, it's the internet after all. Understanding it is the tricky part. For a lot of routes you can even find patents or original research papers.
Sure, in today's environment, with the drug trade being large enough to support manufacture of whatever synthesis is most efficient, you are right. However a drugs rise to popularity will generally be dependant on availability and effect. There was simply a lot more meth available due to the documentation of synths.
Everything you said is absolutely true however. It is a cultural thing, my reply was more of an explanation to what started the cultural bias towards amph/meth, It was posted about 10 hours after dosing though so wasn't the clearest interpretation :(.
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Man am I glad you Chemistry geeks are on here. No offense. I just sucked at it. In NY in the 70's, If you were going for a "Regents Diploma", meaning you intended on college, (college was very optional in those days, not forced on 99% of the kids, 70% of which will fail by merely going)
This was the way it was.
10the Grade Biology Regents. - I got a 90 ! - Remarkable for an ADHD kid before they "made up" the disease. Also had bike accidents. Head injuries, etc. - all ignored. We weren't catered to with every sniffle and whimper we exhibited
11th grade, Chemistry. - Everything was totally abstract to me. Boron was a cool word. Nothing really applied to my life. Though I tried. I got a 64 !!! on the Regents. Chasing a lot of LI girl ass, good smoke, good drugs in general. This was 1978 kiddies, in Levittown, like the worst school district for drugs, and the highest paid UNION teachers, who even went on strike, giving us a summer vacation that ended on December 1st. Many kids died during that time, because had there been school nights they would not have been out partying. Once again-greedy unions ruining our lives.
Oh, before I move on to 12th grade, you gotta hear this one. I got my Chemistry regents grade, and ran up three flights of stairs to my Chemistry teacher. Mr Gouya. Grabbed him by the neck, and put him against the blackboard. "One fuckin point?!?!? That's what you did to hold me back??? You couldn't round that up one fucking point???- Luckily a gentle friend happened to walk on and diffused it all.
So, I went on to take Earth Science which was a total pot head class for those that failed Chemistry. Cool teacher though. Took us on field trips every month. The Sunken Forest on Fire Island, a "protected" place, where no papers or cans were allowed on your person from the moment the ferry docks.
To Eisenhower Park (Formerly Salisbury Park), for Senior Picnic, where our Earth Science Teacher, smoked a bowl whilst standing on a picnic table with my friend and I.
I then switched my Regents into Music Theory and composition. Had it not been for all the drugs the Gambinos and others were supplying our neighborhood (see Goodfellas) I actually met a few of those guys. - I might be a retired Rock Star by now
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Well it's Friday night in NY. Almost 11pm local time. I imagine you Euro spending people are falling off to sleep, because this is when the SR gets super fast for us here in the states.
Just like you guys, I bitch around 3am to 4am CST or London time. - When all of you are supposedly waking up. - I'm always up now, when you're sleeping, so I can run multiple windows. I even figured out how to have two accounts open at the same time. (Tails are needed).
Well that’s all for me.
Tomorrow is mail day (Saturday). Hope I finally get my speed !!!! Come on Evilution!!!!
So remember, If you’re out tonight, and you’re on your bike. Wear white! - Evening all!!!
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Yeah, I agree Muslix.
I would rather to have amph mixed with some inactive then to have caffeine or some other active drug what have major influence on overall effect.
Caffeine is bitch to remove and I am too lazy to do it anyway :/
Really? It's so easy and well worth the little effort if you ask me. I'll definitely be washing the 37% caffeine out of my speed to get a nice, clean product 8)
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Just wanted to point out of acutal purity of 54,7% of particular vendor is pretty close to advertised 60%, nothing else :)
I'm sorry to drag this discussion on but I just don't agree. If product is advertised as 60% it should be 60% amphetamine, 27% sulphate and 13% whatever. Honest vendors like that almost don't exist but if one does pop up, he or she could be making a LOT of money.
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Yeah, I agree Muslix.
I would rather to have amph mixed with some inactive then to have caffeine or some other active drug what have major influence on overall effect.
Caffeine is bitch to remove and I am too lazy to do it anyway :/
Really? It's so easy and well worth the little effort if you ask me. I'll definitely be washing the 37% caffeine out of my speed to get a nice, clean product 8)
Since it's so easy and little effort, please offer it as a service with guaranteed amph%(in whatever unit you wish) and no caffeine. I'll gladly pay you a few bucks for your cleaning efforts. You'll be a busy and rich man soon.
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Just wanted to point out of acutal purity of 54,7% of particular vendor is pretty close to advertised 60%, nothing else :)
I'm sorry to drag this discussion on but I just don't agree. If product is advertised as 60% it should be 60% amphetamine, 27% sulphate and 13% whatever. Honest vendors like that almost don't exist but if one does pop up, he or she could be making a LOT of money.
Sulphate "part" does not exist. Amphetamine sulfate is one unique molecule in salt form, not a mixture of few substances, like caffeine which are different molecules.
H2SO4 is acid and not sulphate. Whole amph molecule is a salt, there is no part of molecule what can be called salt part. Vendor sell amphetamine sulphate and purity should be advertised as such(max 100%). If vendor sell amphetamine in base form, then you would be right.
Re-read my first reply to you where I explained it in more detail so you can understund a difference. :)
I am also sorry to bring this up but time to time we should repeat this issue to educate others who are confused by this misconception.
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Welcome,
We want to offer 6 samples from the new batch so you can see what's coming up in the new year!!
500mg each for the first six forum users with +100 posts who send us their encrypted address by pm (only European).
The samples will be sent on Monday (or asap)
Hope you like it ;)
BM
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Welcome,
We want to offer 6 samples from the new batch so you can see what's coming up in the new year!!
500mg each for the first six forum users with +100 posts who send us their encrypted address by pm (only European).
The samples will be sent on Monday (or asap)
Hope you like it ;)
BM
I think you have earned the privilege of no samples needed. If you told me it is was 110% pure I will believe you and order 25 grams today. I sent a pm anyway, but once again the North American folks are fucked with scourge of the earth meth. Well, not all of us since I have smartly rationed your fabulous pure platinum.
Happy Holidays! Looking forward to the new year.
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Consider it a Christmas present ;)
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Damn, I should have spammed the forums more ;D.
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Consider it a Christmas present ;)
[/quoteAAAArrgh that's just being mean...
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Damn, good to see Boymaster back with some product! I haven't bought from him before, but based on the love for his stuff here, I'll buy as soon as it is posted. I'm not in EU anyway, but I don't think samples are even need from you man!
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I'm not in EU ahhhhhh! You lucky ones that receive a sample you better let us know how amazing it is!
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Welcome,
We want to offer 6 samples from the new batch so you can see what's coming up in the new year!!
500mg each for the first six forum users with +100 posts who send us their encrypted address by pm (only European).
The samples will be sent on Monday (or asap)
Hope you like it ;)
BM
I have not been member for long so i dont have 100+ posts in these forums, infact ia have not even ordered anything from SR yet because i have been surveying vendors, their products and feedback of others (thanks to many ofu, u have been very helpful).
But im a perfect tester for your product since when i take amph with my friends they have much better high than i have, it is because of my high tolerance (used a lot) and ADHD, so these days i need Meth or some really great amph to be satisfied.
If i think your product is great it is then better than any amph i have encountered in northern europe for over 10 years of using amph and adhd meds.
:)
edit: im trying my luck and send a message (lets see if i even can properly use pgp).
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Guys, I have a gram of iisthisisthis dextroamp
What is a the ideal dosage for someone who is medium build with turkey in da tummy?
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Guys, I have a gram of iisthisisthis dextroamp
What is a the ideal dosage for someone who is medium build with turkey in da tummy?
How u take it?
Bioavailability nasal 75%; rectal 95–99%; intravenous 100% (nasal seems to have a bit high bioavailability in my opinion).
You can test it with a very small dose and take more after u feel how strong effect it has, u dont loose anything by that way (amph has a very long duration).
Of course some want that first initial high to be as high as possible but my opinion is that they are using wrong drug and od when they have strong amph.
Try 50mg or less nasally or 25 iv if u have low tolerance (i would iv 50mg if it is claimed to be pure, it has good margin to be on the good side of high for me personally, but i have some tolerance).
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Any idea when you will start listing them BM? I'm pretty keen after the reviews of your previous stuff.
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I'am excited too :D
My reserves will last till after new years eve.
It would be nice if you a ready to ship in January 2013!
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It's not about you jagfug... Europeans have a chance to receive the sample before the new year.
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I don't think there is any negativity being thrown towards the US (Except maybe by its own citizens....what the fuck? why do we always sound so obnoxious?).
It seems like a no brainier smart business move to me. He has new product that he would like tested and does not want to wait the extra time for the samples to all go over the pond and have a higher risk of something getting lost before getting the rave reviews he knows he is going to get....particularly since there was a little trip up at the end of the last run. I would want it to run absolutely perfect.
The B-Master has always been a stand up vendor to us unpredictable (I'm a proud American) citizens. Many of us her in the states have strong roots in the mother land and will always be there when either of us are in need.
Lets all just form a line over here.............wait your turn (Behind me of course ;)). There will be enough heaven on earth for all of us ;D ;D ;D
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speedy xmas everyone, guys !
hopefully you will all enjoy the forthcoming visit of santa clause.
Just offer him at least one line of your best speed, before he continues his trip,
so that he is well prepared not to fall asleep while making everyone happy...
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I don't think there is any negativity being thrown towards the US (Except maybe by its own citizens....what the fuck? why do we always sound so obnoxious?).
It seems like a no brainier smart business move to me. He has new product that he would like tested and does not want to wait the extra time for the samples to all go over the pond and have a higher risk of something getting lost before getting the rave reviews he knows he is going to get....particularly since there was a little trip up at the end of the last run. I would want it to run absolutely perfect.
The B-Master has always been a stand up vendor to us unpredictable (I'm a proud American) citizens. Many of us her in the states have strong roots in the mother land and will always be there when either of us are in need.
Lets all just form a line over here.............wait your turn (Behind me of course ;)). There will be enough heaven on earth for all of us ;D ;D ;D
I'm down with that. - Good diplomatic way to put it caffeine_me, and a 1 karma to you. Merry Christmas.
I too love my brothers and sisters across the pond and beyond. Having grown up in Levittown Long Island, NY in the 60's+70's, we were all what we called "European mutts" - One house was Irish, one German, One Italian, One Jewish, One mixed, Italian and Irish. Lot's of Irish and German, , myself, I'm Irish, Germain, British, and French. My wife is 100% Italian.
It's like WWII at my house sometimes!!! LOL!
Merry Christmas to you as well !
Been a week without speed! Come on Santa !!!!! My Evilution order should be here Monday !!! Then I got a dagobert, and a CrystalMethCat coming.
And this toothache!!!
Going to bed. Goodnight yall
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It's not about you jagfug... Europeans have a chance to receive the sample before the new year.
Thanks for the reassurance man. I appreciate it.
Have a great holiday !!!
I'm just cranky, you'll have to excuse me please.
Going to bed. Been up all night. It's about 5:30 am here.
Goodnight, and Merry Christmas!
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;) ;
There, I just removed those two posts. What a fucking whiny bitch I sounded like. Sorry guys!
Those hydros and Valiums , and Tylenol #4 are hitting me now. I'm off to sleepyland.
Good night and Good day to all of you
- jagfug
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i'm really happy that BM will be back in business in the new year!
can not wait actually :))
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Welcome,
We want to offer 6 samples from the new batch so you can see what's coming up in the new year!!
500mg each for the first six forum users with +100 posts who send us their encrypted address by pm (only European).
The samples will be sent on Monday (or asap)
Hope you like it ;)
BM
I sent you a PM over the shop system. If not too late ,-)
Anyways I wish you a great Christmas time!
take care
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Guys, I have a gram of iisthisisthis dextroamp
What is a the ideal dosage for someone who is medium build with turkey in da tummy?
How u take it?
Bioavailability nasal 75%; rectal 95–99%; intravenous 100% (nasal seems to have a bit high bioavailability in my opinion).
You can test it with a very small dose and take more after u feel how strong effect it has, u dont loose anything by that way (amph has a very long duration).
Of course some want that first initial high to be as high as possible but my opinion is that they are using wrong drug and od when they have strong amph.
Try 50mg or less nasally or 25 iv if u have low tolerance (i would iv 50mg if it is claimed to be pure, it has good margin to be on the good side of high for me personally, but i have some tolerance).
Going to put it in my drink
Using really for study so will probably start of with 25mg at first
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Guys, I have a gram of iisthisisthis dextroamp
What is a the ideal dosage for someone who is medium build with turkey in da tummy?
How u take it?
Bioavailability nasal 75%; rectal 95–99%; intravenous 100% (nasal seems to have a bit high bioavailability in my opinion).
You can test it with a very small dose and take more after u feel how strong effect it has, u dont loose anything by that way (amph has a very long duration).
Of course some want that first initial high to be as high as possible but my opinion is that they are using wrong drug and od when they have strong amph.
Try 50mg or less nasally or 25 iv if u have low tolerance (i would iv 50mg if it is claimed to be pure, it has good margin to be on the good side of high for me personally, but i have some tolerance).
Going to put it in my drink
Using really for study so will probably start of with 25mg at first
Unless you have fairly high tolerance, 25mg of BM's stuff would be a bit much to study with. Just my opinion anyway, but I'd be taking around 10mg.
I've noticed if I take a little too much speed when I'm studying, I can't stand to sit down and I want to do fun things, not studying. But in smaller doses, I'm not as restless and find it easy to concentrate.
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How do i find this isthisisthis dextroamph? I would love to try dexedrine. I don't take speed to run around naked masturbating in the streets or rob banks (not anymore anyways!!!) ;D. I take it to play poker so prefer the cerebral- with minimal bodyload stuff. It's usually enough to help engage stimulating convo as well.
I can't wait for the new year, I hope we get some new vendors and also would be nice to have some come back. I regret not getting any BM or CC stuff. I've also learned to order more than 1 or 2 grams when a decent vendor comes along. Going to set aside some coins for more quantity next time.
My problem is that if I order too much there is no reset for the wicked.
Amphetamine withdrawal is no big deal for me... the problem is potentially associated benzodiazipine withdrawal with concurrent use.
Benzos are ok for 1.5 weeks for me. Any longer use and shit goes bad. So I order 1.5 weeks worth of amph at a time usually, depending on quality... although I seem to have a naturally high tolerance and rapid tolerance build up. Of course a benzo halflife can effect the next day use so only short half-life ones. ALthough I prefer Zolpidem (ambien) the most unless I need to calm my nervous system down.. but unless it's dirty speed with heavy bodyload it's not a problem. Some people have bad reaction to using zolpidem and z-drugs in general butb for me they're the best for sleep after speed and have the shortest half-life so does not effect the following day.
I had a good way to cycle the usage to avoid dependence but it didn't last because the psychological addiction to amph became too strong... as I'm a completely different person professionally. I can make a lot of money very quickly on amph but it costs me my health if I stay awake for 40-45 hours.. I can go long without eating because I have a lot of muscle mass from working... although lost a lot of weight and strength lately. Haven't done speed for 48 hours or so of whcih I spent 24 hours just sleeping, with aid of phenibut amph wd is a non issue. but I liek to keep fit and obviously stimulants are the worst drugs for your physical health... but they don't have to be at certain doses/ types.
Now, time to make a purchase... but I see nothing but pastes n regular crap :(
Btw whether it's caffeine or PEA it's increasing the cardiotoxicity & bodyload for speed.. why can't people just cut with something inactive like dextrose.
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Thats the association almost everyone in Australia has with the word 'speed' and how its taught in drug ed. in school etc.
Speak for yourself dude, some of us were actually born in the 50's 60's and 70's, we are not all teenaged self-centered facebook socialisers.
I grew up with old fashioned amphetamines, white powdered "speed" also came in a paste form.
A lot of skinheads used to sell it, as it was linked to Hitlers own personal use and the administration to the SS troops.
Making you old does not make you wise. Some of the dumbest, most ignorant and misinformed people I've come across are older as they're not acquainted with the habit of fact finding, multiple source comparison and checkups.
Hitler did not use "old fashioned white powdered speed"
He used METHAMPEHTAMINE, IV... It wasn't administered to the SS troops. It was branded Pervitin that was issued to most soldiers.
The allies also used meth in the airforce until it was replaced by dextroamphetamine because meth is more likely to FUCK YOUR SHIT UP. In fact it was more famous by Japanese Kamikaze pilots using it... probably because you know, the japanese discovered the shit- I'm not gonna say meth is the reason someone would sign up as a kamikaze pilot. Japanese have enjoyed killing themselves for honour a long time before meth appeared. Give me enough meth and put me in a zero (not sure if You'd know what a zeke/zero is since you weren't born in the 20s 30s etc) though I'd have no problems crashing it into a CV or a destroyer.
Info like this is readily available thanks to this crazy internet thing. so why carry around a misconception in your head based on a memory from half a fucking century ago. Why spread misinformation? We're no longer in your era of "hey I heard if u put banana peels in the oven n eat em u get totally high doood"
What the hell is old fashioned speed anyways? It's pretty common knowledge that speed refers to different substances depending on locale... but unless you're the average junkie numpty then you'll be referring to drugs by their chemical name or short hand rather than some dumb street names. Methamphetamine can appear in white powder form and has been around since before you were ever born- so wtf are you on about. Stop thinking you know better because you're older than others.. age doesn't effect your intellectual capacity. Well, other than deterioration..
- some other self centered facebook socialiser born in the 80s but probably spends more time learning about history & FACTS than you do. The only thing worse than ignorant young people are ignorant old people, as they've had plenty longer to learn shit.. but then again plenty longer to contract some type of degenerative brain disease.
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iisthisisi has answered my pm a few days ago, I guess it will be OK if I post it here:
"Hi,
The cutting agent is phenylethylamine.
I hope to get some new one very soon, this will all be uncut. And dry again ofcourse.
Happy holidays
Cheers"
I didn't had experience with PEA before, but so far I'd say comedown and bodyload are smoother than caffeinated stuff, but quite a bit rougher than pure stuff, also the taste is just gross. The fact alone that he knows the cutting agent makes him more reliable (for me) than 90% of the other vendors here.
"CapeCrusader
has been a member for 5 months
was last seen: today"
If we are really lucky, we might have 3 or more vendors selling uncut stuff in the new year and if we are even more lucky we might see prices drop a little - a man can have hope can't he ;D.
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Out of Australian speed vendors which one would be a good bet. Thinking of going 1stop.
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I didn't had experience with PEA before, but so far I'd say comedown and bodyload are smoother than caffeinated stuff, but quite a bit rougher than pure stuff, also the taste is just gross. The fact alone that he knows the cutting agent makes him more reliable (for me) than 90% of the other vendors here.
I can second this. I was pretty skeptical at first as well, but out of ignorance as it turned out. After reading into it, i think it might be an almost ideal cutting agent.
Starting point: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylethylamine
Keep in mind it is a or better the PEA all other PEAs are derived from (amph, meth, mdma, mda, etcpp), it's half life is 5-10 minutes, it is very quickly metabolized, it was tested by Alexander Shulgin (or his colleagues, the book never says who actually tested it) with the result: No Effects. At up to 1600mg.
Further reading: www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal142.shtml
The only thing I'd disagree on is the rougher comedown, but then again I barely use caffeine-speed.
@CC:
Maybe, he had issues connecting to SR (hi CC! this can be worked around) like me. I was barely able to connect to SR 10-14 days ahead of X-Mas. That would make selling on here pretty much impossible. Pure Speculation though. He still could have sent me something :P (he didn't)
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I thought I may as well post here and see if anybody else has come across my issue.
I recently purchased some of SuperTrip's speed paste and noticed it's amazing stuff when you snort it, but when IV'ing it, it has a funny way of hardening up and going a weird grey colour which you can't really inject. Any idea why it may be doing this or how to fix it?
Either way I'm happy with it but I would appreciate some clarification.
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It took a whopping 2,5 weeks for my domestic order from Mercury31 to arrive (first shipment never showed up, reship took quite a while but finally arrived. A bit odd, but maybe just caused by the whole christmas mail frenzy). Anyway; I'm saving my ordered cocaine for christmas but I couldn't resist trying the amphetamine sample that came with it since it was weekend.
I've been using amphetamine every now and then for a little under a year so I'm no expert and I don't have high tolerance. tried quite a few products though so I should be able to compare a little bit.
Based on the one person that reviewed mercury's amphetamine before and said that it was not that great I decided to start by snorting 100mg (and yes, I know that snorting anything but pure stuff is not the best way to go, but my stomach gets upset pretty easily and I prefer the more powerfull rush that snorting gives me). I can't say that it was very mild on the nose, but it wasn't very bad either so let's say 'medium noseburn'. About 5 minutes in I started to feel a little jittery and my hands became a little sweaty. Another 5 minutes later a mild rush feeling came up. I felt like listening to some upbeat music but unfortunately didn't really have the increased motivation to do pretty much anything like I have encoutered with other products. My heart was beating a little faster than usual but nothing too wild. The mild rush-feeling subsided quite quickly so I snorted another 100mg line about 2 hours later. That made me feel more speedy so I decided to go shopping (lots of fun on amphetamine in my opinion but I wouldn't really recommend it to anyone as I usually waste loads of money along the way). Again the buzz subsided rather quickly and I even noticed that I was able to patiently wait in line for the cash desk (other times while shopping on amphetamines that made me pretty much literally bounce on my feet, wanting to move on to the next undoubtely awesome purchase). Returned home a little over two hours later and noticed that my pupils looked normal size whereas they usually are the size of tea biscuits for hours on end, even after the initial rush has subsided. Not sure if that is of any significance though. Also; I think I'm not overly sensitive to caffeine so I can't say much about that.
Conclusion: not the best experience I've had so far. Again, I'm no expert but I'd say it's less pure than the advertised 60/70%. Close to Powerades previous batch I'd say, but this is more expensive.
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I got Dexedrine on Xmas Eve
On Xmas Eve
I got Dexedrine on Xmas Eve
On Xmas Eve in the Mail.
Thank you, Ruthenium, for a sweet batch of dextroamphetamine sulfate. You may want to do something about the packaging -- it's stealthy enough but a careless buyer could easily wind up losing a large portion of their product opening it. (I don't want to be more specific than that, but I trust R. knows what I am talking about). That quibble aside, this is some seriously potent stuff. 25-30mg plugged had me dry-heaving and retching on the come-up and currently has me whizzing along merrily in the stratosphere. Next time I'm going to start with 10 mg as that should be more than sufficient for my needs.
Overall, a very fine transaction and I hope to do business with Ruthenium again in the future. Not the very near future, as this should last a while. Be careful with this: it's got a kick :)
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Wow so many good vendors potentially coming back! I'm moving some money around so I have some coins ready!
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After MrFire left us i searched after a new German seller.
dagobert --> waited 2 weeks --> nothing and no replys
Powerade --> waiting for 4 days now, we´ll see how it goes...
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I'm also anticipating Rutheniums restocking. That speed turned me into a bit of a snob, so reluctantly...
Going to order from powerade as I've got coins stacked up, doing nothing, waiting for some lovely dex to show up....
With the dextro, its definately a case of demand out stripping supply... :) there ain't enough to go around?
God speed to all of you legit honest vendors with tight supply lines of high quality chems. Bring it on for 2013!
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What was the price/gram for Rutheniums dex?
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/32de1fe1d2 - Ultimate raffle guys!
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CC contacted me saying he had some setbacks that wouldn't let him get listings up until the new year. Let's hope that means several days!
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Hi jackintherox, thanks for the update!
It seems our summons for BM and CC has become finally effective.. ;)
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What was the price/gram for Rutheniums dex?
Roughly 4.5 btc per gram (roughly $55 usd).
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With Ruthenium's Dex, There was a notable price break at 10g/ costing 3.1btc/gram.
Thanks for the update on CC's progress.
Forgive my ignorance :) I'm eagerly soaking up what everybody has to say....
Can anybody tell us if the Amphet Sulphate that CapeCrusader makes is racemic or dextro?
-I doubt Batman actually makes High quality amphetamine, my imagination loves that shit though.
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Forgive my ignorance :) I'm eagerly soaking up what everybody has to say....
Can anybody tell us if the Amphet Sulphate that CapeCrusader makes is racemic or dextro?
-I doubt Batman actually makes High quality amphetamine, my imagination loves that shit though.
Batman?! Who? me? ;D I just realized that BM is an acronym for BatMan as well haha, but I use it as "personal text" because of a totally unrelated issue. Too bad ROBIN!! hasn't followed suit.
Regarding your question: dl for sure, dextro is possible, if we are lucky we get different salts as well (like amph phosphate).
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Hahaha. Theres something funky going on here. Subconscious harmonising?
My initial experiences with Dextro are likened with using Cillit Bang for the first time. Simply marvelous. Gotta have me some more of dat shit. :) Especially when cillit bang is on offer, it's like my birthday and christmas. Theres no going back, im fooking hucked
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did anyone tested my amphetamine allready?
regards,mercury31
I think there was one review already, saying it wasn't too good. My sample was waiting for me when I got back from holiday so it took a couple weeks, thought I'd throw in my two cents:
It was wet and smelled like lotion or something fragrance-y. Let it dry for a couple hours then did 90 mg when it was dried (2 g dried to 1.4 or so). Still had a baby powder-ish odor to it so I mixed it up in some warm water instead of railing it. Didn't dissolve too easily.
I wasn't expecting much or any effects but I was quite amped up for about 5 hours. I'd say it was equivalent to 30-40 mg of Boymaster's last good batch that I got. I don't have any tolerance, haven't done BM's for a few weeks so 30 mg of good amp has always got me going. So far I have redosed twice (with appx 70 mg each time) in the past 8 hours and feel very good still. It's cut with some caffeine and other shit probably, but no headache or anything yet that I get w/high dosages of caffeine, so I was happy with the ratio.
Would be a nice alternative for us if you could sell the stuff for a good price, Mercury31. Definitely better than the shit paste I've gotten stuck buying on here before.
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Don't forget to thank jagfug for badgering BM enough so he finally came out of the woodwork!
I'd like to think I played some role. At least the role of an annoying guy from Long Island that wouldn't shut the fuck up!!! LOL!
Happy Days are here again.
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IN OTHER NEWS . . . . .
I finally got one of the 3 different speed orders I placed before Christmas, and that was the 1g from Evilution.
1 gram, wet paste, I LOVE IT !!! - No test kit here. I don't even know what the fuck you guys mean by "BODY LOAD"!?!?! Feel free to inform me.
But it's such good shit, that I only had to dry out a few lines for my buddy and me. Lets say around 150 -300 mgs, and we didn't need nor desire anymore for the rest of the day!
Was a nice clean head. I must admit I had almost a 7 day tolerance built up (meaning lack of speed not the other way around)
Took 20 days from Belgium, but consider the Christmas mailing season, and I think all orders will start flowing regularly again.
Thinking about a nite cap. Also thinking about sleep. Very unusual for a guy like me, who's been on the rag all week about not having any.
Maybe this is that "clean high" everyone's always talking about.
I'll tell you one thing. No caffeine. If there was, I'd be irritable right now. I'm not.
So "Cheers to Evilution " and may you all buy from Evilution.
Makes me think of The Beatles when John sings "You tell me that it's evolution" Though he pronounces it more like Evilution ! Pretty cool huh?
Well I'm 51 so, that's what people my age think.
Oh yeah, and now the lower half of the bag has a slight pink hue to it.
Can any of you chemistry geeks tell me anything about that???
Weight was over, and it was wet, Like 250mg over, so that was cool too.
Well, jagfug is finally happy again !!
Getting a wicked snowstorm right now, gotta run out and buy milk and bread and all that shit.
Better do a bump first! LMAO !!!! 8)
Seeee Yaaaaa!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love this time of night. 10pm. -In Europe it's 3-4-4-5am, so the road is lightning fast!
I know a lot of you "Euros" bitch when the sun rises over America.
Everything is cyclical.
Cheers Mates !
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Very happy to hear that review regarding evilution's gear is decent. I'm planning on using it as a substitute for medication so it'd be annoying if it was bunk :P
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Very happy to hear that review regarding evilution's gear is decent. I'm planning on using it as a substitute for medication so it'd be annoying if it was bunk :P
It really is decent! I would even give it a "decent+1" - I slept from like 10 pm to 3am! That's unheard of for me, the same day I got speed in the mail, and had been out of it almost a week!
I got up, did a small amt. Two pinster lines, and I've been giving advice on the forums. Getting wash done, but not in a frantic way. No ramblings, or huge term paper posts as I've done in the past.
So really all in all? Evilution ranks up there with a lot of the "Oscar" contenders of 2012.
I could live off this stuff, and never use another seller, but we all know that world doesn't exist. Why just me posting a positive review, could likely wipe out their stock, or whatever, but I feel it is my Silk Road duty to give a good review when I have one to give. Even if it means I have to "share". . . lol
It's a little on the strong smelling side, if I had to say anything negative. Like whatever agent is used near that final process, the acetone I think? Seems to be just a tad too lingering, but, I have left the baggie open all night and had the heat cranking in my room (nice balmy 75f degrees! 8) ) Fucking nice dumping of snow we got overnight, like 8-10 inches. Supposed to get another 6-10 today! :)
I love this shit. You walk outside, and it's so quiet! - Like the snow is this big insulating blanket from a recording studio. Also the snow keeps most of the "earthlings" in their caves!!! ::)
Evilution - OK now BM and CC and the others got some competition. That's good for all of us!
One more thing. Anyone know why some of it turned pink?????
It's almost 6am here, gonna take a nice hot shower, and put on 4 or 5 layers of clothes. We're going sledding !!! - Perfect week to have off from work! ;D
See yas all later! - I still have a 2g Dagobert speed order coming, and another from CrystalMethCat, and will give a review when I get it. - Happy New Year everyone !!!!
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Received 1 gram of Evilutions speed yesterday.
Was a nice yellowish paste, but very strong smell. After letting it dry and chopping it up I used a toothpick-size amount. It gave me a nice buzz for +/- 4hrs even though I probably had some tolerance from using Powerades gear every day over the past few days. Was able to sleep very well at night.
Definitely very decent stuff!!
EDIT: Might as well add a review of iisthisisi's 30% stuff and polq1234 test sample I received somewhere last week.
I can be short: personally, I didn't like any of them.
The polq1234 test sample didn't do anything at all. No buzz, no high, nothing. No idea what was in there, but not too much amph imo.
The iishtisisi 30% dry powder wasn't very good stuff either, but I kinda expected that. However, it did give me somewhat of a clear head and took away my sleepyness so all in all, it was just ok.
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My first thought was that pink tinge could be due to improper separation of red phos. But I can't think of any synth's off the top of my head for amphetamine that uses red P...
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Has BoyMaster sent his samples to those lucky ones?
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~My Speed Odyssey~
After MrFire left us i searched after a new German Speed seller.
dagobert --> waited 2 weeks --> nothing and no replys, so i cancelled
Powerade --> waited 1 week --> Powerade cancelled !but apologized!
proline --> ordered 26th, processing and i´m waiting
Yeah i love this Christmas + my domestic German sellers here x.X ^^
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Thanks for the review on Evilution's stuff Jagfug and Shamiroqai! I'm jumping on 5 grams right now. What were shipping times like for you?
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Powerade cancelled on me too. Merry fucking christmas. Do not pass/go, you little bastard!
I'm currently stripping out my old PC for parts, on some level, this is money that will be channeled into buying more drugs. It's love!
So I thought fuck it. Everything happens for a reason. I've ordered 10g from Amsterdope. Which is good, cos non of you grade 1 fucks have reviewed it. (I'm genuinely a nice guy, just testing your boundaries ) :)
Also! My dex prayers may have been answered. I checked the prescription stim section and theres 30mg Dexedrine individual listings. 1.50 a pop. Sellers name is Avon. 5x ordered
If my calculations are right, that's me steeeeemin all day
It's also notable that this pharma grade costs way more than powdered dex. But I have to try. Explore etc
All of my love. NumNuts
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Thanks for the review on Evilution's stuff Jagfug and Shamiroqai! I'm jumping on 5 grams right now. What were shipping times like for you?
10 days domestic. Normally it would have been faster of course, but I didn't notice Evilution messaging me, so I failed to respond in time. A few messages back and forth cleared everything up though.
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Got from Powerade today ;D
Stuff is wet and he should pack better as my package almost leaked.
But dried 30min under fan and its dry.
Pretty hard on the nose this stuff, but very nice effect. Smooth and nice high on small dose (25 - 35 mg)
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about dmtdoodeelsd...
I have just made a small order with dmtdoodeelsd, for speed and K. There are so few posts about him on the forums I thought I'd ask you guys... as soon I'll probably be asked to FE.
He has been as member for a year, had a FE policy for what looks like 8 or 9 months, has still 100% feedback, and I can't find a single negative post or feedback. So it should be okay to FE right?
I did have a a nice transaction with him a long time ago, which builds some trust but it scares me, one day it seems FE vendors just disappear, as happened to me with MrFire.
Anyone had any good transactions with him lately?
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I lost almost 50% after Powerade's dried. Quality overall I found lower than MrFire's better batches. It was good, but over 150mg in a day felt like hell. Sat on my own couch for 5 hours while a party was going on. Didn't even want to talk. With doses under 100mg a day was good though.
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any info on six6one?
i checked his vendor page today and he still only has 3 transactions (all positive)
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about dmtdoodeelsd...
I have just made a small order with dmtdoodeelsd, for speed and K. There are so few posts about him on the forums I thought I'd ask you guys... as soon I'll probably be asked to FE.
He has been as member for a year, had a FE policy for what looks like 8 or 9 months, has still 100% feedback, and I can't find a single negative post or feedback. So it should be okay to FE right?
I did have a a nice transaction with him a long time ago, which builds some trust but it scares me, one day it seems FE vendors just disappear, as happened to me with MrFire.
Anyone had any good transactions with him lately?
I found it quite odd also. He's had his listings up the longest. I simply wont pay the prices this person charges, and I suspect that most SR buyers might feel the same.
He is however, consistant and seems to be high up in the rankings due to longevity, duration of service and lack of choice. Also changes in the market will be felt his end, when rival suppliers disappear or run out, his inbox will begin flashing and orders will come in, buyers
This is why I want to vend. 60 fucking billion people in the UK... the maths blow my mind.
I'll keep digging and hoping my personal circumstances change.
To the poster; I'd personally trust this guy, but seriously, what the fuck? I want to give you a back hand slap for being willing to pay those prices.
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Thanks for the review on Evilution's stuff Jagfug and Shamiroqai! I'm jumping on 5 grams right now. What were shipping times like for you?
For me Evilution was 20 days. That's during the highest point of the Christmas season.
I have to say, stinky became almost fumes! - I guess it was just very wet.
So I dumped it out onto an empty DVD case inside circle, as a safety in case I knocked into it.
Did two skinny lines, prior. This is my morning. - We got over a foot of snow here in the Hudson Valley.
I had put the open pile down on a box, having it sit about a foot from the baseboard heat, which runs all day. I just turn it past 90. (free heat in this place ;D )
Went out and shoveled snow for myself and 3 neighbors. Then I shoveled out a parking spot, before realizing, my car is in the shop for like the next 3 days!! LOL!
Let an old lady have it.
Came back in to feed the dog, and check my speed. It was all dry "looking", I dumped it on a big mirror, and figured I'd start chopping it up. (looked like shattered plaster with a pastel lilac color)
Once I chopped into the bigger chunks that SMELL! came out again. WHEW! . I mean it smelled like if I lit a match, something was going to flame up!
That being said. This shit is EXCELLENT speed! - I never understood those few connoisseurs who were looking for amphetamine that wasn't too speedy. - NOW I DO
I used to think, that's like looking for LSD, but not too much visuals! - I see the point. I get the lift, but I don't become an annoying chatterbox, I want to do stuff, but organized, pace myself, etc.
This is a whole new world for me. If you don't mind the stink, and I think it's just taking time to dry out, I will check right now. (9:30pm EST)
Tried getting a few lines from the finer bits, lots of large flakes, like shattered plaster.
I took pics. - Never uploaded here. I will try in a min. Whooosh! Those two lines are giving me a great head!. Not over-euphoric (not that I'd complain). This is the most different speed I've tried, next to the Detathb4dishonor capsules.
Running over to the deli to grab a 24oz beer before they close at 10! BRB!
Anyone can shoot me a short link to upload some pics of this shit when I get back, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise, I'm sure I can figure it out.
OK 10 minutes!! BRB!
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Sounds like what I like from speed! I don't mind being a chatty fuck, but it feels like everyone around me knows something is up if I'm talking a bunch. 8)
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Sounds like what I like from speed! I don't mind being a chatty fuck, but it feels like everyone around me knows something is up if I'm talking a bunch. 8)
;D
Karma +1 For making me laugh tonight. I think I "overdid" the shoveling. Popping an 800mg Ibuprofen now. That's right, I'm badass!!
Next payday, I'm checking Craigslist for a used snow-blower. 8)
OK, so of course my - see ya in 10 mins, turned into over an hour.
Working on the pics, so stand by!
I'm hoping a real chemical expert reads some of my posts and would know why it's taking almost a day and a half to get rid of that solvent smell. I used to like it! Because it was just for an hour at most. Though I did leave the baggie sealed overnight, so that didn't help matters. I'm also opting for taking a small dose orally. Like 1/4 teaspoon-level dry measuring kind, not the one for your cereal. That solvent is just a little too much.
OK, onto pics. I'm aiming for 12 midnight East Coast US time. See you b4 that hopefully.
As far as chatty and them "knowing something is up"" - My one kid (16) says, "How come you seem nicer than you've been all week?" - I said - "I got my medicine filled today". Well it's true!
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The pink tinge could indicate a couple of things really but if it is not simply dyed, there are reports that using nickel chloride instead of mercuric chloride in the aluminum amal synthesis yields a slight pink.
I was on vacation and when I returned I found my sample from Mercury. Well packaged but quite wet. I dried in the open overnight which took care f the bulk of the alcohol used to wet it. Either methanol or ethanol hard to say with residual bmk odor. Still a very generous sample and I snort a couple 50mg lines. Not much burn really but I do snort meth which is like snorting live coals sometimes. Had a nice smooth come up and lasted nicely for an energetic 4+5 hours. Better then the other NL vendors are carrying for sure .and his gear as found its way to me without fail. CC and BM both had the edge in power and concentration but this gear is respectable/ I found his coke very good by the way. I just wish the cooks r higher distributors of speed from NL did not feel so compelled to use that alcohol to wet the gear down.
Peace
Hilly
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The pink tinge could indicate a couple of things really but if it is not simply dyed, there are reports that using nickel chloride instead of mercuric chloride in the aluminum amal synthesis yields a slight pink.
I was on vacation and when I returned I found my sample from Mercury. Well packaged but quite wet. I dried in the open overnight which took care f the bulk of the alcohol used to wet it. Either methanol or ethanol hard to say with residual bmk odor. Still a very generous sample and I snort a couple 50mg lines. Not much burn really but I do snort meth which is like snorting live coals sometimes. Had a nice smooth come up and lasted nicely for an energetic 4+5 hours. Better then the other NL vendors are carrying for sure .and his gear as found its way to me without fail. CC and BM both had the edge in power and concentration but this gear is respectable/ I found his coke very good by the way. I just wish the cooks r higher distributors of speed from NL did not feel so compelled to use that alcohol to wet the gear down.
Peace
Hilly
Thanks Hilly. Merc's always asking, "When is someone gonna review my shit?" LoL! - I hope he's satisfied.
You are a well written individual, especially one using the moniker of hillybilly2!
I don't mind the alcohol, because at least that evaporates super fast. This shit stinks! - Sorry for the lack of eloquence, but there's no better way to put it. Again, I stress that the smell is the only negative.
I was just crunching some up again. - I fell asleep before when I said "I'll have the pic up by midnight. LOL.
Anyway, here's the thumbnail, and something tells me this won't work, but I'll try. The second link will be the pic. Unretouched. No photo editing software. Using a 5mp camera phone. I find the flash brought out the color as it appears to the eye, better than ambient light.
Here ya go !
Thumbnail
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Link to pic;
<a href="http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=e03b34c3d65c75b798fac07847d630f0.jpg">The Image</a>
Let me know what you think. I wish we had "Smellavision" so I could show you that. **Edit-skip to link at bottom of this post-thanks+sorry**
A video would be interesting. Hmm. I was just using one of those long razor blades that go in utility knives, and it's like crunching up "Honey bunches of Oats" cereal ! LOL!
Still, it's fun stuff to play with, and well worth the Christmas 20 day mailing wait. (easy for me to say now that it's in my bloodstream! ;D )
So tell me people, whaddya think? Anybody not able to view it? I know that Onion Image Uploader makes it super HUGE. I guess that's a good thing. - You can also "save image as" and then view it as a smaller framed shot. FYI.
- Peace + Karma back at ya!
- jag
**EDIT - copy this link and paste it in new window, or "open in new window" - sorry for the confusion. **
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=e03b34c3d65c75b798fac07847d630f0.jpg.
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About dmtdoodeelsd...I don't know if something has changed, but the 5g I ordered 6 months a go just went in the trashcan. It was everything except speed. Oh yeah may be 3%? Totally uneffective for me, I didn't even waste my time to snort this pasty powder.
But I hope for the people who ordered from him to get decent stuff now!
Polish seller: polq1234 has been reviewed as nothing good, but still no words on six6one. I think this seller seems quite legit..but need feedback ;)
He's still alive the guy that ordered from Eric Cartman? I'm really curious to see if it was a scam or not.
Powerade again out of business...damn, CC and BM I hope you are almost ready...so finally we have again a stable situation. And as müslix said..don't overwork yourselves. You sent sample. We know we can trust you. so 5+g lists is more than ok for most of us, and a lot less stress for you.
Greetz
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any info on six6one?
i checked his vendor page today and he still only has 3 transactions (all positive)
Nice contact, sends from slovenia. Stuff is quite good for the price. Yellowish good smelling paste, not to wet.
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I think there was one review already, saying it wasn't too good. My sample was waiting for me when I got back from holiday so it took a couple weeks, thought I'd throw in my two cents:
It was wet and smelled like lotion or something fragrance-y. Let it dry for a couple hours then did 90 mg when it was dried (2 g dried to 1.4 or so). Still had a baby powder-ish odor to it so I mixed it up in some warm water instead of railing it. Didn't dissolve too easily.
I wasn't expecting much or any effects but I was quite amped up for about 5 hours. I'd say it was equivalent to 30-40 mg of Boymaster's last good batch that I got. I don't have any tolerance, haven't done BM's for a few weeks so 30 mg of good amp has always got me going. So far I have redosed twice (with appx 70 mg each time) in the past 8 hours and feel very good still. It's cut with some caffeine and other shit probably, but no headache or anything yet that I get w/high dosages of caffeine, so I was happy with the ratio.
Would be a nice alternative for us if you could sell the stuff for a good price, Mercury31. Definitely better than the shit paste I've gotten stuck buying on here before.
Surprising to read that others have better experiences with Mercury31's gear. I definitely agree with hillybilly2 that his coke is very strong but I guess I should have an other go with his amphetamine as my experience wasn't that great.
I wonder if Knomo could elaborate on his experience as he also said that it wasn't thát good?
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I received iisthissisi 72% dl-amphetamine injected it and can't seem to get a hard on even? do amphetamines does that or is it only when you shoot?
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HEY! Nobody commented on the pic I put up of the speed I was drying out all day yesterday from Evilution. - Very clean speed feeling, with a little amount. - Usually not my thing, kinda like Dexedrine, I'm more adderall. Though this is like a mix of amphetamine and the L side whatever thingy? - I hated chemistry. I never knew it would be this important in my future. But the Louisiana purchase, boy does that come in handy everyday!!!! ::)
Check out this pic, I had already chopped the shit out of it. Notice the almost lilac pastel color. It's my first time using this picture uploader. I had it before, hopefully one of you can see it. I though you cut off right before the "http" and at the end you chop off after "jpg." Can't get it to appear !!!- HELP!
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I received iisthissisi 72% dl-amphetamine injected it and can't seem to get a hard on even? do amphetamines does that or is it only when you shoot?
I have noticed the very same phenomenon.which no one has thoroughly explained. I can IV 80-100mg of BM and feel focused and concentrated, but when I orally consume BM's product I get an overwhelming body-high and require way much less weight-wise. Since IV is 100% uptake, it must have to do with passing the first level of metabolism which prevents the stronger and more overwhelming effects. Personally, although it uses a bit more, I prefer the IV high to the oral ROA.Being overwhelmingly sped out with intense body-highs is not something I really enjoy.
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I received iisthissisi 72% dl-amphetamine injected it and can't seem to get a hard on even? do amphetamines does that or is it only when you shoot?
You're supposed to shoot it in your dick!! LMAO!!! --- Sorry man. I can't be the only one who's going to have fun with this one!!
Seriously though? What you have is called 'speed dick'. What's weird is when I first started taking adderall, I would get really horny, almost dangerously so. Got overly assertive with women whom I was always "just friends" with. That usually goes away after a day, and then you won't get another hard on until you run out of speed.
That's the way it works for me anyway. I'm 51, and I basically killed my libido from abusing opiates for many years. A doctor put me on Ritalin to help get off MS Contin, and it really helped. No effect on
sex drive. It wasn't until I switched shrinks and got adderall that I got that horny episode. It happened again, after I ran out a few days early and it went out of my system, but it was just the first day of the
script.
With straight speed? I only snort or swallow. Do you do something to 'clean' the impurities?? I wouldn't IV the shit you buy off here. Man, the stuff I got now, smells like the glue you put down for vinyl
kitchen floors.
Be careful man. Most stimulants act as a "dick softner" FYI. - I remember the cocaine days of the 80's on Long Island + NYC, it worked great to get the women in bed, but it killed my boner. Or as we say in
LI, My bonah! LOL!
Though you could always try some internet porn, if the best clips that usually get you off don't have any effect? You have speed dick. Go shovel some snow, or take apart a radio. LOL.
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The only speed I trust to IV is BM currently, and maybe CC's next batch.
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jagfug your posts are a hoot to read. Are you always speeding when posting in this thread? haha cheers
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I think there was one review already, saying it wasn't too good. My sample was waiting for me when I got back from holiday so it took a couple weeks, thought I'd throw in my two cents:
It was wet and smelled like lotion or something fragrance-y. Let it dry for a couple hours then did 90 mg when it was dried (2 g dried to 1.4 or so). Still had a baby powder-ish odor to it so I mixed it up in some warm water instead of railing it. Didn't dissolve too easily.
I wasn't expecting much or any effects but I was quite amped up for about 5 hours. I'd say it was equivalent to 30-40 mg of Boymaster's last good batch that I got. I don't have any tolerance, haven't done BM's for a few weeks so 30 mg of good amp has always got me going. So far I have redosed twice (with appx 70 mg each time) in the past 8 hours and feel very good still. It's cut with some caffeine and other shit probably, but no headache or anything yet that I get w/high dosages of caffeine, so I was happy with the ratio.
Would be a nice alternative for us if you could sell the stuff for a good price, Mercury31. Definitely better than the shit paste I've gotten stuck buying on here before.
Surprising to read that others have better experiences with Mercury31's gear. I definitely agree with hillybilly2 that his coke is very strong but I guess I should have an other go with his amphetamine as my experience wasn't that great.
I wonder if Knomo could elaborate on his experience as he also said that it wasn't thát good?
Yep it wasn't that great.. not too bad tho. After using 2g of the stuff I think it's not cut to crap but not very strong either :)
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I received iisthissisi 72% dl-amphetamine injected it and can't seem to get a hard on even? do amphetamines does that or is it only when you shoot?
You're supposed to shoot it in your dick!! LMAO!!! --- Sorry man. I can't be the only one who's going to have fun with this one!!
Seriously though? What you have is called 'speed dick'. What's weird is when I first started taking adderall, I would get really horny, almost dangerously so. Got overly assertive with women whom I was always "just friends" with. That usually goes away after a day, and then you won't get another hard on until you run out of speed.
That's the way it works for me anyway. I'm 51, and I basically killed my libido from abusing opiates for many years. A doctor put me on Ritalin to help get off MS Contin, and it really helped. No effect on
sex drive. It wasn't until I switched shrinks and got adderall that I got that horny episode. It happened again, after I ran out a few days early and it went out of my system, but it was just the first day of the
script.
With straight speed? I only snort or swallow. Do you do something to 'clean' the impurities?? I wouldn't IV the shit you buy off here. Man, the stuff I got now, smells like the glue you put down for vinyl
kitchen floors.
Be careful man. Most stimulants act as a "dick softner" FYI. - I remember the cocaine days of the 80's on Long Island + NYC, it worked great to get the women in bed, but it killed my boner. Or as we say in
LI, My bonah! LOL!
Though you could always try some internet porn, if the best clips that usually get you off don't have any effect? You have speed dick. Go shovel some snow, or take apart a radio. LOL.
I was just interested because man i can get better hard on on heroin even if its not so hard but big atleast and everyone said that sex on amphetamines is awesome. But maybe methamphetamine? Do they differ alot? Also when sober I'm a porn/sex fiend so thats interesting now I'm not interested.
I trust iisthisisi speed he has a lab and is chemist the speed smells like chemicals doesn't seem to be added cuts and is white powder a bit pressed from vacuum. I trust him to make clean desomorphine when he gets codeine so i def trust with speed. I got 30% earlier now this 72% but this time "dissolving" was problematic. It was a bit pressed I addded a bunch to spoon added water as far as i know amp should be water soluble but these pressed powder did not dissolve and since it says 72% i heated it till it started to evaporate. then sucked up injected the rush was clean doesn't feel like there some other active cuts. then after a while added more water to that spoon and left for 10-15mins came back sucked up solution injected got another good hit. Then after a while added more water sucked up got another decent hit. And the fourth time added water and crushed up that powder and let it sit then suckedd up and injected fourth time got one more decent hit. Anyways i think I did too much but taken long acting benzo yesterday evening so I think that helps. After laying on bed for a while I got that similar noise in my ears when you inject coke although i never got that before. I also have little hallucination like things are moving abit never had that before. Also at times i felt like throwing up that happens after good hit of amphetamines. Im just worried and a bit afraid to get some crazy panic attack or something like that people are talking about when you do too much amphetamines and I definetely feel like i did too much.
I still have that bag of 72% dl-amphetamine experienced users what ROA you would advise to use ? Except from IV cause I think i should experience other ways to get high on speed. I never tried any ROA besides IV.
Edit:
I experienced diziness too very strange never had that before definetely overdid this time. Just dissolved medazepam 10mg under tongue to not experience something crazy while my mother is home.
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RE:HiroProtagonist - Ordered the go-fast, thus far have emptied the caps and sucked up my nose. Verdict = meh.... He does recommend oral ingestion, so that may produce better result. It's not god awful, but I was hoping for better. Can't wait to try the oxy which is supposed to be avail after Jan 1.
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Yep it wasn't that great.. not too bad tho. After using 2g of the stuff I think it's not cut to crap but not very strong either :)
Ok, so I guess we're all somewhat on the same level and it's just a matter of 'the cup is half empty' versus 'the cup is half full' :)
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He's still alive the guy that ordered from Eric Cartman? I'm really curious to see if it was a scam or not.
That's me and yes I am still alive. :D
I like Cartman's speed much better then the stuff from POWERADE.
Yesterday I have been to a dutch test center with this stuff together with the 72% amp from iisthisisi's.
This time it will take two weeks before I get the results.
Speedie new year everybody
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He's still alive the guy that ordered from Eric Cartman? I'm really curious to see if it was a scam or not.
That's me and yes I am still alive. :D
I like Cartman's speed much better then the stuff from POWERADE.
Yesterday I have been to a dutch test center with this stuff together with the 72% amp from iisthisisi's.
This time it will take two weeks before I get the results.
Speedie new year everybody
where does eric cartman send from? don't tell me Colorado :p
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I was just interested because man i can get better hard on on heroin even if its not so hard but big atleast and everyone said that sex on amphetamines is awesome. But maybe methamphetamine? Do they differ alot? Also when sober I'm a porn/sex fiend so thats interesting now I'm not interested.
Amphetamines can definitely provoke the desire and make for steamier sex because it makes you feel less inhibited/more talkative etc. but yes, there's always the physical problems that come with it ;) I think I read somewhere that it's not safe to take viagra at the same time but I'd be interested to hear if someone here has experience with safer alternatives for that.
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Review: 30% amphetamine. Dry powder from iisthisisi
Well, my scales tell me i've done over a gram in one sitting. I didnt expect too much from this, I'm mildly surprised.
It tastes odd but I cant lay my finger on the oddity
It took a while to come on, Since then I' ve stripped an iPhone 3gs that i've sold on eBay ready to rebuild it to expert spec. Lots of fiddling and close contact. I don't have the focus if I haven't had a dab. It's going to be spot on.
Vibing with music (drum n bass)
however I do feel a little tense, but not in the way like it's been loaded with adulterants or caffeine. I think its residual emotional energy present in me, and racemic amphet usually brings this out. Half decent speed also amps up my sense of well being, which this has done. Cancelling it out, in effect, while stimulation is in abundance. I love speed. No bullshit medicine :)
I won't buy this again, it was the only one he had left.
I'm curious to try his other stuff seeing as, was stated below, he makes it himself. Which I like, no middlemen, or reason to decimate it with other crap. It feels purer than some of the stuff ive bought and tried from the SR.
Next, I've got some acetone and filters, I'm going to wash it to see if it stands up to the 30% claim.
I'll post a pic, for those interested in this practice. It sounds scarier than it actually is, and I recommend having acetone and filters around for when you have nasty speed you want to clean up.
Pure amphet is left in the filter and all the acetone disolves most of the crap used to cut it. Perfect
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Hammertime - awesome product, fast delivery, great vendor. Quality is superb, like I used to help Granny whip up back in the day.
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Review: 30% amphetamine. Dry powder from iisthisisi
Well, my scales tell me i've done over a gram in one sitting. I didnt expect too much from this, I'm mildly surprised.
It tastes odd but I cant lay my finger on the oddity
It took a while to come on, Since then I' ve stripped an iPhone 3gs that i've sold on eBay ready to rebuild it to expert spec. Lots of fiddling and close contact. I don't have the focus if I haven't had a dab. It's going to be spot on.
Vibing with music (drum n bass)
however I do feel a little tense, but not in the way like it's been loaded with adulterants or caffeine. I think its residual emotional energy present in me, and racemic amphet usually brings this out. Half decent speed also amps up my sense of well being, which this has done. Cancelling it out, in effect, while stimulation is in abundance. I love speed. No bullshit medicine :)
I won't buy this again, it was the only one he had left.
I'm curious to try his other stuff seeing as, was stated below, he makes it himself. Which I like, no middlemen, or reason to decimate it with other crap. It feels purer than some of the stuff ive bought and tried from the SR.
Next, I've got some acetone and filters, I'm going to wash it to see if it stands up to the 30% claim.
I'll post a pic, for those interested in this practice. It sounds scarier than it actually is, and I recommend having acetone and filters around for when you have nasty speed you want to clean up.
Pure amphet is left in the filter and all the acetone disolves most of the crap used to cut it. Perfect
I'd be interested to hear about your findings with the acetone wash, and also about the practice itself. I've done it twice myself but I'm pretty sure my method isn't perfect as the percentage of product loss was pretty big -as it should be with about 30% pure stuff-, but the end product didn't seem to be much purer somehow. Also; I used regular household coffee filters and the amphetamine was sticking to the paper quite badly, even when fully dried. Probably because of the pretty rough texture of the paper. I tried to gently scrape it off with a razorblade but then I ended up with tiny coffee filter particles in my amphetamine (probably one of the least harmfull substances that I ever put up my nose, but still.. not very pretty :) ).
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I already posted, that the cutting agent is PEA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylethylamine, which is very close to amphetamine. I wouldn't be surprised, if the acetone wash wouldn't work at all and you just waste some product.
EDIT: posted PMA instead of PEA..
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seller: polq1234
item: AMPHETAMINE 1G NEED TRY !!!!
quantity: 1
shipping: EU
postage: $2.45
total price: $18.59
ordered: December 2, 2012, 2:11 pm UTC
shipped: December 3, 2012, 6:19 pm UTC
actually shipped (stamp): December 6, 2012
actual weight: 0.981g.
communication: none required
packaging: all good, except return address handwritten with marker
first impressions: dry white, some fine powder, some hard rocks
dosage: 100-150mg.
effects: all good for the first 4 hours, head-ache and jitterness/general annoyance with everything (caffeine?). Last day I got some pain in left side of lower back.
Overall - it works, but because of the side effects I got, I personally won't be buying any more of it.
seller seems to be selling different batch right now, so this review might be outdated..
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To spare my nose a bit, today I decided to try and mix some Evilution speed with a bit of water and drink it. I know, I know, it's extremely bad for your teeth but since I'm at home I can brush, floss and use mouthwash which I did, I don't want my teeth fucked up. 36 is way too young to be teethless.
Dosage: my usual amount, toothpick sized line + an extra tiny bit. Dumped it in some water, stirred not shaken and bottoms up! Tastes disgusting!!!
After about 30 minutes the speed starts to kick in and after about 1,5 hour I'm going faster than a rocket!! I like this feeling much better than nasal, so I might go oral from now on. I felt super clearheaded and focused, even euphoric! Kinda like my first time again. I like it. Downside is there is nothing at all to do in the house so I'm walking from here to there and back lol. Might fire up Guild Wars 2 again to see what changed in the past month or even renew my WoW account and check out the Panda's!
Conclusion: Evilution's stuff is even better mixed in a drink.
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To spare my nose a bit, today I decided to try and mix some Evilution speed with a bit of water and drink it. I know, I know, it's extremely bad for your teeth but since I'm at home I can brush, floss and use mouthwash which I did, I don't want my teeth fucked up. 36 is way too young to be teethless.
Dosage: my usual amount, toothpick sized line + an extra tiny bit. Dumped it in some water, stirred not shaken and bottoms up! Tastes disgusting!!!
After about 30 minutes the speed starts to kick in and after about 1,5 hour I'm going faster than a rocket!! I like this feeling much better than nasal, so I might go oral from now on. I felt super clearheaded and focused, even euphoric! Kinda like my first time again. I like it. Downside is there is nothing at all to do in the house so I'm walking from here to there and back lol. Might fire up Guild Wars 2 again to see what changed in the past month or even renew my WoW account and check out the Panda's!
Conclusion: Evilution's stuff is even better mixed in a drink.
i only take my amphetamine orally, it's much smoother and effective imo. Snorting it is just too unpredictable , bumpy, and usually results in a shitty and early comedown. I don't think it is too bad for your teeth unless you swoosh the mixture around in your mouth... but who does that? I think the main problem causing tooth decay in speed users is the resulting dry mouth and bad oral hygiene. Keep a tall glass of water around, chew sugar free gum and brush your teeth 3 times a day and you should be fine. Correct me if I'm wrong!
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About the topic on my 72% amph. My last batch was different from the first one because a whole different route for the synthesis was taken. I already discussed this with Muslix, but I think it's wise to explain it here as well.
The first batch was made with the all famous Leuckart method starting from phenyl-2-propanone. This is the "normal" route to amph. It has been used for decades and has become the 'standard" for this synthesis.
My second batch was made with dl-norephedrine. This synthesis employes the same chemicals and reaction conditions as for meth. The HI/P reduction, or in my case, the H2PO3/I2 reduction system.
The product is afterwards purified with steamdistillation and vacuum distillation.
Impurities are checked with NMR. After two steps purity is mostly above 97%. This is on the freebase. When adding the sulfate the active amph drops to around 73%.
Getting back to the oldskool method, with the Leuckart method, a lot of byproducts are formed.
When vacuum distilling amph freebase, with a decent vacuum source, the amph freebase comes over at around 90 degrees at 10 mm Hg. But, when keeping an eye on the thermometer, there is only a small amount of time this exact temp is displayed. It climbs to 95-100 relatively quickly. If there was a pure product, the temp should remain the same over the entire course. Since this isn't the case, byproducts are also distilled with the amph freebase. One way to overcome this is to add a vigreux to the distillation setup. I've never tried it, but I think yields will be substantially lower, and the yield already sucks at 60%.
These byproducts are formed with the high temp of the reaction. I added a source with common found impurities in amph made by the Leuckart method.
The HI/P reduction however, produces from itself a very clean product. Most people just take the product from the reaction, neutralize with acid and let it crystallize. Because, purification is time and time is money.
So, in my opinion, and this may sound strange to a lot of people including myself, we've been getting so used to the impurities, that we consider this normal. The first time I took the second batch 72% it also felt very different.
However, when compared to the dex amph (also HI/P) there were several similarities with the second batch. Also when taken with pharma dex, similarities are very noticeable.
I'm not trying to put my products on the top of the list, I'm just trying to find an explanation.
I'm open to all suggestions and would love to hear other peoples opinion.
The ref is was talking about:
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/meth.impurities3.html
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Review of jalapeno's "very strong speed".
I bought 25g a few weeks ago, it is really cheap, too cheap, but I thought it might be useable but just weak. Unfortunately it is so bad it is not useable for snorting because it's so bad I got zero high before my nose was blocked up - I can't snort a gram at once! I got a 50% refund from escrow. This guy should have his account deleted IMO I can't believe he's still trying to shift this crap.
Rather than throw the junk in the bin, I have eventually got around to actually trying to use it.
It's a kind of matt white, dirty, rock. If I want some I have to cut a chunk off with a blade (I don't want some).
I can dissolve say 1 to 2 grams in 20ml of hot water, sometimes it all dissolves if the water is boiling, sometimes it's really cloudy and clumpy. On leaving to cool, I get a really thick gunky white toothpaste looking paste, with some clear water. This is a lot of water, I don't know what can be so insoluble at room temp... Then I'll kinda filter off the water and put it in a drink. Taking 2 grams or 1 gram in one "hit". After having 3g in a day, I do notice some mild amphetamine effects, but also some pretty horrible side effects. I can't put my finger on it, just feeling "tense" and "ill" and "dizzy", but more importantly, not really get any good effects at all.
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jagfug your posts are a hoot to read. Are you always speeding when posting in this thread? haha cheers
Thannks Gsharpp! - (was always an Aphlat guy myself)
Not always speeding. In fact go back a few pages to before Dec 26 when we were all waiting for our mail. Although even then I did manage to find and snort some Nuvigil. I know, pretty low. Well I AM a drug addict!!!
I'm trying to make that last 4 lines of Evilution speed last. Just tried the "Drink Method" as described Shamiroqai. Had to do a little pinster line w/it just to get the ball rolling.
Gonna put on some old Stones music and clean my apartment! Snowing again in the Hudson River Valley!
Nice day to stay in and clean! (and SPEED!!)
+1 Karma to you Gsharpp! - Hopefully I'll be a Cmaj7 in an hour!!!!
-jagfug
PS Still waiting for Dagobert's 2G order. also 1g from CrystalMethCat. Wasn't in the Saturday mail. Ho-Hum.
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Review of jalapeno's "very strong speed".
I bought 25g a few weeks ago, it is really cheap, too cheap, but I thought it might be useable but just weak. Unfortunately it is so bad it is not useable for snorting because it's so bad I got zero high before my nose was blocked up - I can't snort a gram at once! I got a 50% refund from escrow. This guy should have his account deleted IMO I can't believe he's still trying to shift this crap.
Rather than throw the junk in the bin, I have eventually got around to actually trying to use it.
It's a kind of matt white, dirty, rock. If I want some I have to cut a chunk off with a blade (I don't want some).
I can dissolve say 1 to 2 grams in 20ml of hot water, sometimes it all dissolves if the water is boiling, sometimes it's really cloudy and clumpy. On leaving to cool, I get a really thick gunky white toothpaste looking paste, with some clear water. This is a lot of water, I don't know what can be so insoluble at room temp... Then I'll kinda filter off the water and put it in a drink. Taking 2 grams or 1 gram in one "hit". After having 3g in a day, I do notice some mild amphetamine effects, but also some pretty horrible side effects. I can't put my finger on it, just feeling "tense" and "ill" and "dizzy", but more importantly, not really get any good effects at all.
I'm not surprised. I am surprised you didn't research jalepeno better.
I did a search of his name on the forums, and that was that. I see his name when looking for something? I skip over it. - known to be shitty vendor. I don't like labeling every seller that isn't up to snuff a "Scammer" - I think in his case, he's just a shitty vendor. Sells shit, and is just shitty.
Holy shit! Did I use the word "shit" enough in this shitty post!
Same shit - different day.
Have a good one! I hope you get some better "shit" soon!
+1 Karma for contributing a review to the forum. Thank you.
- jagfug
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About the topic on my 72% amph. My last batch was different from the first one because a whole different route for the synthesis was taken. I already discussed this with Muslix, but I think it's wise to explain it here as well.
The first batch was made with the all famous Leuckart method starting from phenyl-2-propanone. This is the "normal" route to amph. It has been used for decades and has become the 'standard" for this synthesis.
My second batch was made with dl-norephedrine. This synthesis employes the same chemicals and reaction conditions as for meth. The HI/P reduction, or in my case, the H2PO3/I2 reduction system.
The product is afterwards purified with steamdistillation and vacuum distillation.
Impurities are checked with NMR. After two steps purity is mostly above 97%. This is on the freebase. When adding the sulfate the active amph drops to around 73%.
Getting back to the oldskool method, with the Leuckart method, a lot of byproducts are formed.
When vacuum distilling amph freebase, with a decent vacuum source, the amph freebase comes over at around 90 degrees at 10 mm Hg. But, when keeping an eye on the thermometer, there is only a small amount of time this exact temp is displayed. It climbs to 95-100 relatively quickly. If there was a pure product, the temp should remain the same over the entire course. Since this isn't the case, byproducts are also distilled with the amph freebase. One way to overcome this is to add a vigreux to the distillation setup. I've never tried it, but I think yields will be substantially lower, and the yield already sucks at 60%.
These byproducts are formed with the high temp of the reaction. I added a source with common found impurities in amph made by the Leuckart method.
The HI/P reduction however, produces from itself a very clean product. Most people just take the product from the reaction, neutralize with acid and let it crystallize. Because, purification is time and time is money.
So, in my opinion, and this may sound strange to a lot of people including myself, we've been getting so used to the impurities, that we consider this normal. The first time I took the second batch 72% it also felt very different.
However, when compared to the dex amph (also HI/P) there were several similarities with the second batch. Also when taken with pharma dex, similarities are very noticeable.
I'm not trying to put my products on the top of the list, I'm just trying to find an explanation.
I'm open to all suggestions and would love to hear other peoples opinion.
The ref is was talking about:
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/meth.impurities3.html
A vigreux column doesn't really have a huge impact on yield in my experience, however if you are already getting 97% purity at freebase then its completely unneeded tbh. 3% byproducts is better than 60% cutting agents which is the alternative(which will still probably contain trace amounts of formahide etc.).
Mechanical loss is a bitch, sure, but I assume this isn't your first beat around the speedy bushes. When I first started synthing, I was getting in excess of 50% loss. Over time, as I got more experienced and comfortable with the steps involved, I managed to cut that down to about 20%(Different product, different reaction so numbers wont match amph synth)
Efficiency is key, less phase changes will usually be a good thing. The less washes you can do without having too much of a negative impact on the purity of the product will have a beneficial effect on yield. I don't mind if the amph is 95% rather than 97% for a 10% reduction in price, and I'm sure I'd be one of the very few here that would be able to tell the difference.
I'm actually very excited to read your post, it's not often that I get to see proof of a vendor actually knowing their shit regarding the products they sell. Please let me know asap when your listings are up, I'll definitely be making a purchase.
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Anyone order from dagobert lately? For those that don't know, he's exclusively a FE Vendor. I bought a few grams of coke over the summer, (1 gram each time) and it was always decent- speedy but decent. So I figured he'd have good speed.
Well I just did a search on here and someone posted "dagobert speed is fake" - and another came forward to agree, here's a link to the post
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=94127.msg664823#msg664823
I'm waiting now 2 weeks for a 2 gram order. I know, Christmas slows it down, but I got my evilution order on the 26th, and ordered it the same day.
It took days for dagobert to mark "in transit" so I could finalize, and when I did, I messaged him, and the whole German/English language barrier confused it all for a few more days. He must've finally had someone read our back and forth messages, and determined, "this guy just wanted to let you know he finalized" - because the next day, he messaged, "packaged shipped-thanks"
Now I'm worried, because my best friend just ordered 3g's from him.
I guess the lesson here is, just because you trust a vendor, doesn't mean you can "trust a vendor"
We must be ever vigilant in doing searches on forums for any new info on the Vendor, before placing the order.
What's going on with Boymaster ? Anyone? He was back, good things said about his samples. He wouldn't ship samples to USA for some unknown reason about the Holidays. As if we all stop everything for the Holidays??- It's one day the mail doesn't come, that's it. Unless some European countries close down for the whole week, I don't know.
Well anyway, I'm more interested in the latest dagobert stories. - Thanks
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Hammertime - awesome product, fast delivery, great vendor. Quality is superb, like I used to help Granny whip up back in the day.
I believe this is the Speed/Amphetamine thread. Not the Crystal Meth thread. FYI
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Where is everyone?? I mean I know it's the middle of the night for a lot of you, but there's a lot of US buyers, and don't speed freaks stay up late? ;)
I feel like I'm hogging the board here, so I'll cut to the chase.
Can I get like a top 5 list of good vendors of speed? They have to ship to the USA. I'm about ready to tell my friend to cancel dagoberts 3g order. He's also got one into him for hash.
This way I can get him hooked up with a better deal. Hopefully one with good communications. Well you know, "overall good"- +ships to US
Thanks in advance. Any and all responses are appreciated.
jagfug
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Experiment of the day: Amphetamine Nasal Spray
Opened and emptied an Otrivine (a pita to open those things) nasal spray, rinsed it, dumped 10ml of boiled water in it (after it cooled down to room temp), dumped some Powerade speed in there (eyeballed, not measured, my guess is 200-300mg), added a tiny bit of grade A salt. Shake, shake, shake until it was all dissolved.
2 sprays in each nosehole gives a nice focus and clearheaded state but not too speedy. Perfect for using at work.
Tonight i'm gonna try and make a party-spray with double the dose of speed and see how that works out.
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Experiment of the day: Amphetamine Nasal Spray
Opened and emptied an Otrivine (a pita to open those things) nasal spray, rinsed it, dumped 10ml of boiled water in it (after it cooled down to room temp), dumped some Powerade speed in there (eyeballed, not measured, my guess is 200-300mg), added a tiny bit of grade A salt. Shake, shake, shake until it was all dissolved.
2 sprays in each nosehole gives a nice focus and clearheaded state but not too speedy. Perfect for using at work.
Tonight i'm gonna try and make a party-spray with double the dose of speed and see how that works out.
What an ingenious idea! - Would help me, especially when I get those "unexplained allergy attacks", which usually follows a smiley return from the mailbox!!! ;D +1 Karma to you for that one.
PS - Why salt? - Thought maybe a pinch of baking soda might help to maintain the body ph. and the saline you're perhaps after?
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Review: 30% amphetamine. Dry powder from iisthisisi
Well, my scales tell me i've done over a gram in one sitting. I didnt expect too much from this, I'm mildly surprised.
It tastes odd but I cant lay my finger on the oddity
I was on the 30% for +48 hrs, was a bit disappointed at the beginning, thought it was weak. But once I found the right bump-size and esp. after we hit the 2nd pack it felt normal again. Dunno, could easily have been me.
I made an interesting observation with this gear: I was slowly drifting to psycho-land, started hallucinating, visual and auditory, feeling spiderwebs on my skin, the usual stuff. I decided 2 more bumps, then some sleep. For whatever reason (srsly can't remember why) I did the bumps less than an hour apart. With the effect that I had some decent bodyload, blood shot into my head, ears were ringing/"rushing", couldn't hear/see for a couple moments. Lasted like 15-20 minutes, then: silence. All psycho symptoms were gone, no more whispering hidden in wind-noises, no more moving shadows, all gone. Speed-high was still there though. I quit a couple hours after that and went to bed.
Could the PEA have caused that? (Only explanation I have)
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Review: 30% amphetamine. Dry powder from iisthisisi
Well, my scales tell me i've done over a gram in one sitting. I didnt expect too much from this, I'm mildly surprised.
It tastes odd but I cant lay my finger on the oddity
I was on the 30% for +48 hrs, was a bit disappointed at the beginning, thought it was weak. But once I found the right bump-size and esp. after we hit the 2nd pack it felt normal again. Dunno, could easily have been me.
I made an interesting observation with this gear: I was slowly drifting to psycho-land, started hallucinating, visual and auditory, feeling spiderwebs on my skin, the usual stuff. I decided 2 more bumps, then some sleep. For whatever reason (srsly can't remember why) I did the bumps less than an hour apart. With the effect that I had some decent bodyload, blood shot into my head, ears were ringing/"rushing", couldn't hear/see for a couple moments. Lasted like 15-20 minutes, then: silence. All psycho symptoms were gone, no more whispering hidden in wind-noises, no more moving shadows, all gone. Speed-high was still there though. I quit a couple hours after that and went to bed.
Could the PEA have caused that? (Only explanation I have)
You're getting all of that from amphetamine? I know you're focusing on the cut as a possible contributor to the effects, but MAN! I only feel better. No auditory/visual stuff, and I did a LOT of acid back in the 70's +80's. I think I know the feelings, because when I first discovered amphetamine was the "fountain of youth" for old age (at 49), I kept taking more and more adderall, and of course reached a point where I was starting to feel those trippy days returning. I think the medical term is "amphetamine psychosis". Hearing whispers???- Last time that happened to me was in my 30's going through a bad benzo withdrawal, and a dead girlfriend kept whispering, "It's OK, it's OK". Thinking about securing some LSD soon, just to have around for that one last trip before they blow the world to shit. Or my heart can't take it anymore. Though since starting stim-meds for adult-ADHD-Pi, and depression, naturally turning to speed from SR, I've improved my health! - No more High Blood Pressure, No more high-cholesterol, resting pulse of a 20 year old. It's all good.
I guess my only complaint here is, why doesn't this guy ship to the United States????? lol - interesting read, between you two. You lose me on some of the chemistry jargon, but I try to keep up+google what I don't understand.
-peace
-jagfug
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I was bored and felt like trying something new, so I placed and order with six6one. It's like playing the lottery only you get high instead of rich!
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I'd be interested to hear about your findings with the acetone wash, and also about the practice itself. I've done it twice myself but I'm pretty sure my method isn't perfect as the percentage of product loss was pretty big -as it should be with about 30% pure stuff-, but the end product didn't seem to be much purer somehow. Also; I used regular household coffee filters and the amphetamine was sticking to the paper quite badly, even when fully dried. Probably because of the pretty rough texture of the paper. I tried to gently scrape it off with a razorblade but then I ended up with tiny coffee filter particles in my amphetamine (probably one of the least harmfull substances that I ever put up my nose, but still.. not very pretty :) ).
If the yield you got was very low, then the speed you bought was heavily cut. I've done it twice also, with some dynamite paste I got locally, and the yield was over 50%. I let the amphetamine completely dry before I removed it. turned the filter inside while holding it over a tray, there were molecules of amphetamine left on the filter, but not very much. But I dont like waste, so I put the dried filter into a coffee, after cutting it down with scissors so it fit ok into a cup. Water will do the job also. Stir, and drink. This way nothing is lost.
Also, be sure to use acetone without water in it. Most retail acetone has 1% water in it, which dissolves a fair amount of the precious chemicals you want keep! eBay has this stuff. Might be called anhydous acetone (CBA checking)
Someone once said to me, its pointless unless you have a quarter oz (7grams) but I tend to disagree, if it's giving you bad side effects, then acetone wash is the only way to go. I've almost cried while putting bunk speed in the bin, with my last 20 quid spent on it. But I use better sources these days. Much higher quality speed, from oldtimers and neighbourhood legends. who know it puts punters off. It's all about money for some dick heads at the end of the day. These people are amateurs and dont last long. The local dealer who did stuff like this got his windows put through regularly, possibly unrelated, but it was obvious seeing as 100 meters down the street was another guy that sold it raw, his windows were always intact :)
If I ever vend, I'll sell Damp, Dried, and Washed at very reasonable prices, I know i'll clean up this place if I get some networking done, and establish a buying relationship with an importer or reputable street vendor. But the supply line is rocky and unpredictable, but the quality is always top of the line. I wouldn't buy anything less.
Anyhow, I'm testing ethylphenidate and aMT today so it took a back seat.
The beauty of this place is that buyer can communicate and share their experiences, while also biggin up vendors with dynamite shit. Like I did with ruthenium, but fuck knows what happened to them/he.
Personally, didnt like BM's speed. but CC's looks promising and this message is carried to new members. Word of mouth is a powerful marketing tool. Theyre getting kudos despite months passing, theyre in the hall of fame
Powerade did well. Less potent but devoid of crap, making it quality average speed....
I'm waiting for amsterdope 10g listing (dry). Based on the reports, it should be professional. These are the guys that do well, based on volume of orders, and return customers. Simple.
You dont see RC websites selling watered down chemicals, this is a street speed/drug practice and it's very common, because they can get away with it most of the time. But not on the internet. strangers talk to strangers on here :D
I'll try fit the acetone wash in tonight.
@jagfug. I like you! and your ramblings!
Last time I heard voices was with alcohol withdrawal. I too heard my girlfriend, in my bed "come to bed, come to bed" 6 days without sleep. Long gone, 3 years sober.
I'm not convinced amphetamine psychosis is down to just amphetamine. Like I said, Some people will fuck you up in ways you wouldn't even imagine, with things you don't even know about. Leaving you none the wiser, and depleted spiritual health.
I went 7 days with no sleep on amphetamine, although keeping your metabolism high, exercising/activity and presence of mind (mindfulness/staying in the moment)were factors in this, and the results were fucking spectacular. My body expelled so much waste, real stinky toxic shit, my gut cleared out. and my mind cleared. My mood was elevated to another level. I dont recommend doing this unless you're clear on the do's and don'ts
Staying active eating small and often is a must(I used whey protein). 12 hour wankathons are a no-no. My identity splice was most notable. I become free of ego (false negative self) and integrated spiritually. I felt more complete.
I will do it again, but in the forest/woods. miles away from anything. Life is in the way at the moment! I'm camping out for a week and taking a lot of drugs with me, and food supplies and equipment (even a foldaway trowel to bury my poo!) haha :) I love this place
@muslix. nothing out of the ordinary so far, just brought up slightly more than usual fidgeting and low level anxiety, which I'll have until this camping detox trip in the woods. So just me and the fairies! and maybe a badger :)
The PEA won't do shit. It's practically inert. I bought a bottle of 240 capsules, and went through 7 or 8 one time to catch a buzz. Nothing. It's legal and safe, and not very useful unless you're a chemist. Some of the amines its related to produce a variety of effects though, so it's probably significant on some level, just not for getting high.
Maybe it was that time of the night/day. About 5am I get visited by fucking creatures of the night. Walls tapping, shit falling off shelves, cold chills. Cant see em, but they're there. But these are weak entities and don't concern me at all. Man, I've got some stories about my experiences with the underworld.
You might have clairvoyance abilities, don't get the medical journal out, that just tells you how much of a fucked up species we've become. It might freak you out a bit, but take a deep breath and just watch. Don't jump to conclusions. If you're quiet enough, long enough, a picture forms, like the matrix.
I've got lot's to say, but no fucker is listening. So, I keep it simple and truck on, acting naive helps. They don't know I know.
I think you had a conscious shift. It's up and down all day. If you were tired your vibration is low, leaving to receptive to entities of a similar vibration. I find it fascinating, and I'm curious about it to some degree, but I'm going up, not down. No matter how much I'm dragged, consumed and beaten I will get up, dust myself off, learn from it and keep going.
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+1 Karma to NumNuts !
Thanks for the compliment. - Got a reassuring PM from dagobert , also his profile is updated explaining Christmas/post delays, etc. So I'm comfortable with him again. Even used an online translator to wish him a Happy New Year in German. Also "patience is a virtue", and I'll wait. (do I have a choice ???)
So that's that for me. Waiting on that 2g, and another 1g from CrystalMethCat (another FE) - I know, I know. Hell, $20 bucks USD is a low price to test a new vendor. You get burned, that's the price of research!
Mail delivery about 5 hours away. (almost 4am here in the states). Had one line of Evilution speed left, and slept all day, woke at 5:30pm, it was a 1 hour tease. Now I'm at that mailbox headgames point as
per usual. If there's nothing in the mail, Jan 1st is a Holiday (no mail), so it'll be just like last week. We'll live! Happy New Year all ! ! !
PS. Camping in the woods in January?? Hmm . . . . Hopefully you're closer to the equator than I am! It's like Siberia here suddenly!
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WHO HAVE AT THIS MOMENT THE BEST Speed IN EUROPE, PLEASE? :)
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Experiment of the day: Amphetamine Nasal Spray
Opened and emptied an Otrivine (a pita to open those things) nasal spray, rinsed it, dumped 10ml of boiled water in it (after it cooled down to room temp), dumped some Powerade speed in there (eyeballed, not measured, my guess is 200-300mg), added a tiny bit of grade A salt. Shake, shake, shake until it was all dissolved.
2 sprays in each nosehole gives a nice focus and clearheaded state but not too speedy. Perfect for using at work.
Tonight i'm gonna try and make a party-spray with double the dose of speed and see how that works out.
Man.... I talked about this on IRC a few months ago... Bummed I didn't get to be the first one to try it but elated that it seems to have worked as well as I hoped. Nice job shamiroqai!
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Just thought I'd repost / quote my message to see if anybody has any advice or info:
I thought I may as well post here and see if anybody else has come across my issue.
I recently purchased some of SuperTrip's speed paste and noticed it's amazing stuff when you snort it, but when IV'ing it, it has a funny way of hardening up and going a weird grey colour which you can't really inject. Any idea why it may be doing this or how to fix it?
I think it's quite odd how it does this. I saw it myself for the first time the other day and I've heard it from many, many people. It becomes a gunky consistency and turns a beige / creamy colour. :/
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And I've already messaged him about the issue before anybody says anything, but playing the waiting game isn't much fun, especially when I was about to place an order for 1 kilo of this stuff.
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WHO HAVE AT THIS MOMENT THE BEST Speed IN EUROPE, PLEASE? :)
no one right now :-[. PremiumDutch http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/da8e0d2abf has the best lab-tested stuff right now I think with ~55% amph and ~45% caffeine.. http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.msg675044#msg675044
Personally I am waiting for one of these vendors to sell again, all of them are selling self-made uncut stuff:
ruthenium
iisthisisi
CapeCrusader
BoyMaster
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Thank you Stoney1980 (+1Karma for u) 8) - I needed that info as well.
Preferably ones that ship to USA. I know 2 of those don't.
I know Boymaster said he'll be shipping here , when he comes back officially.
Do you recall if CapeCrusader shipped to USA?
What about Amsterdope ? Any reason that vendor seems to not be talked about on this forum ??? ? Lately anyway.
Thanks again and Happy New Year from North America!
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You're getting all of that from amphetamine? I know you're focusing on the cut as a possible contributor to the effects, but MAN! I only feel better. No auditory/visual stuff, and I did a LOT of acid back in the 70's +80's. I think I know the feelings
Everyone gets that from amphetamine, eventually. Just stay up 3 days. You don't even need amph for it. I am not focusing on PEA as a cause at all. I know these symptoms in and out. They are caused by amphetamine + sleep deprivation. I was wondering what made them go away. It's nothing like acid, not comparable at all.
PEA is said to be inactive (any solid medical researches done on that?), but what about combinations with other drugs? Impurities are said to be all inactive as well, but it's also said that because of the amph they can more easily cross the BBB. So are they still inactive in combination? No one knows. Not even NumNuts ;D
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You're getting all of that from amphetamine? I know you're focusing on the cut as a possible contributor to the effects, but MAN! I only feel better. No auditory/visual stuff, and I did a LOT of acid back in the 70's +80's. I think I know the feelings
Everyone gets that from amphetamine, eventually. Just stay up 3 days. You don't even need amph for it. I am not focusing on PEA as a cause at all. I know these symptoms in and out. They are caused by amphetamine + sleep deprivation. I was wondering what made them go away. It's nothing like acid, not comparable at all.
PEA is said to be inactive (any solid medical researches done on that?), but what about combinations with other drugs? Impurities are said to be all inactive as well, but it's also said that because of the amph they can more easily cross the BBB. So are they still inactive in combination? No one knows. Not even NumNuts ;D
More Karma for you. Happy New Year ;)
Thanks, I get what you mean, now. I've done that come to think of it. I just barely remember, because it's like a dream. You start getting what day it is today, mixed up, when talking to people. Esp those closest to you. I do recall seeing things out of the corner of my eye. Though the building I live in is known to be haunted. Goes back to the revolutionary war, and was a saloon/brothel. My kids when they were little saw a woman a few times. I even saw a little girl one morning, and yelled for her to get ready for school, since she was in her nightie. I thought is was my daughter, who turned out to be downstairs already! :o
How about this weird effect, and it could just be alcoholism. When I come off of a period of anywhere from 4-20 days of daily speed use. Whether it be adderall or in a baggie, and I get the expected "drag ass" and a bit of depression. If I drink to feel better, I become a very angry drunk. Never in my life was I like that. - I was always the happy stupid, "Just go to sleep asshole!" type of drunk.
Any experience there? - also any experience with Amsterdope? Seems "persona non grata" on this forum. ???
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Just thought I'd repost / quote my message to see if anybody has any advice or info:
I thought I may as well post here and see if anybody else has come across my issue.
I recently purchased some of SuperTrip's speed paste and noticed it's amazing stuff when you snort it, but when IV'ing it, it has a funny way of hardening up and going a weird grey colour which you can't really inject. Any idea why it may be doing this or how to fix it?
I think it's quite odd how it does this. I saw it myself for the first time the other day and I've heard it from many, many people. It becomes a gunky consistency and turns a beige / creamy colour. :/
Sounds like what you get when the speed is cut with certain brands of pills (crushed of course). The speed I got from Der Speed Doktor many months ago behaved in this way, and apparently it's not unheard of on the street either.
Does the entire solution harden up, or do you get cotton-like crystals inside the solution?
Couldn't find any decent picture of the phenomenon I have in mind, this will have to do: https://i1.ytimg.com/vi/hCM-iYZXFRs/mqdefault.jpg
There's an entire video about it on youtube, voiced in glorious hurdy-gurdy, but you've got to login to see it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCM-iYZXFRs
Needless to say (lulz needles) you shouldn't IV a "solution" containing significant amounts of insoluble particles.
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Sounds like what you get when the speed is cut with certain brands of pills (crushed of course). The speed I got from Der Speed Doktor many months ago behaved in this way, and apparently it's not unheard of on the street either.
Does the entire solution harden up, or do you get cotton-like crystals inside the solution?
Couldn't find any decent picture of the phenomenon I have in mind, this will have to do: https://i1.ytimg.com/vi/hCM-iYZXFRs/mqdefault.jpg
There's an entire video about it on youtube, voiced in glorious hurdy-gurdy, but you've got to login to see it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCM-iYZXFRs
Needless to say (lulz needles) you shouldn't IV a "solution" containing significant amounts of insoluble particles.
Cheers for your response. +1 karma when I can lol
Hmmm, definitely some food for thought. I definitely won't be getting a kilo of this stuff unless we can get this matter sorted. Basically, get some yeast, add a few drops of water and stir it and that's EXACTLY what this stuff looks like. Gunky, thick creamy disgusting consistency which you definitely can't and shouldn't be injecting.
Either way, hopefully me and SuperTrips can solve the issue for my next order as I definitely do not want to be buying this stuff again.
Also, for the vid, engrish plz lol
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Cheers for your response. +1 karma when I can lol
I karma'd for you. You're welcome :)
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about dmtdoodeelsd...
I have just made a small order with dmtdoodeelsd, for speed and K. There are so few posts about him on the forums I thought I'd ask you guys... as soon I'll probably be asked to FE.
He has been as member for a year, had a FE policy for what looks like 8 or 9 months, has still 100% feedback, and I can't find a single negative post or feedback. So it should be okay to FE right?
I did have a a nice transaction with him a long time ago, which builds some trust but it scares me, one day it seems FE vendors just disappear, as happened to me with MrFire.
I
Anyone had any good transactions with him lately?
]'ve ordered a few times with dmtdoodeelsds for 1 grams of Mephedrone and he's always delivered very good product. I've always had to finalise, however that doesn't bother me. If you were ordering from Amazon you would have to finalise early - LOL and so I'm not too bothered about finalising for small amounts. I haven't tried his speed paste yet however the photo does make it look tempting.
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I received iisthissisi 72% dl-amphetamine injected it and can't seem to get a hard on even? do amphetamines does that or is it only when you shoot?
I've never been able to get a hard on on amphetamine and I always snort it or dab it on the tongue. Interestingly enough if you take a tiny amount of decent amphetamine you can get a tremendous hard-on, however anything more than 10 to 20mg and I find it just shrivels up. I had some of iisthissisi' 30% stuff and it was very bad on the nose, I had bloody bits stuck to the side !
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To spare my nose a bit, today I decided to try and mix some Evilution speed with a bit of water and drink it. I know, I know, it's extremely bad for your teeth but since I'm at home I can brush, floss and use mouthwash which I did, I don't want my teeth fucked up. 36 is way too young to be teethless.
Dosage: my usual amount, toothpick sized line + an extra tiny bit. Dumped it in some water, stirred not shaken and bottoms up! Tastes disgusting!!!
After about 30 minutes the speed starts to kick in and after about 1,5 hour I'm going faster than a rocket!! I like this feeling much better than nasal, so I might go oral from now on. I felt super clearheaded and focused, even euphoric! Kinda like my first time again. I like it. Downside is there is nothing at all to do in the house so I'm walking from here to there and back lol. Might fire up Guild Wars 2 again to see what changed in the past month or even renew my WoW account and check out the Panda's!
Conclusion: Evilution's stuff is even better mixed in a drink.
i only take my amphetamine orally, it's much smoother and effective imo. Snorting it is just too unpredictable , bumpy, and usually results in a shitty and early comedown. I don't think it is too bad for your teeth unless you swoosh the mixture around in your mouth... but who does that? I think the main problem causing tooth decay in speed users is the resulting dry mouth and bad oral hygiene. Keep a tall glass of water around, chew sugar free gum and brush your teeth 3 times a day and you should be fine. Correct me if I'm wrong!
It's interesting to read the two perspectives. I always used to take my amphetamine orally until I found out that only about 50% gets processed and 50% gets taken out by the liver. I tend to snort it now always ensuring that I blow my nose every couple of hours just to make sure that it doesn't get bunged up. I had an interesting experience with Pure Gush's speed (he's not selling any at the moment). I snorted a few 30mg lines and there was no euphoria at all and then i decided to dab it, not with any water, but just placed into the mouth. The come up was almost immediate and it was like rocket fuel.
Regarding dental hygiene the worst offender for that is Methamphetamine. I can honestly say that the few times I've taken that there is visibly bad stuff going on in the mouth after a 12 hour binge of that stuff. Those photos of meth addicts that you see in the papers with badly rotten teeth - I can honestly believe that is possible after my limited experiences. Amphetamine isn't as bad as methamphetamine, however mephedrone is better still in terms of not giving you too much headache in the teeth department.
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Well the "mail Gods" saw to it that we be fucked again on this useless day between Sunday and a Holiday. Same shit last week.
Yeah I'm miserable, I'm in East Bumfuck, NY , and only have alcohol to get me through to Jan 2. I couldn't care less about New Years Eve or any of that happy horseshit.
I want my fucking drugs. All the idiots out partying tonight, are amateur wannabees. Falling into line, doing what their corporate masters tell them they should be doing.
Let "The Powers That Be" have a horrible accident in their family. Tonight my whole life seems like one big tragic accident.
I told you I become a miserable drunk when I run out of speed, and have to rely on "legal drugs".
OK, I feel better now. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. No Dagobert "3 weeks and counting", No CrystalMethCat, but with a name like that, "WHAT WAS I THINKING?"
That's all..
Peace
and Happy Fucking New Year!
Big deal! A number changed on the calendar! WOW!
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Damn Jag, sorry to hear nothing showed for you today. I've got no speed either. No celebrating for me, never been into the New Years shit. I also can't drink anymore, so it's not much fun anyway. Got some alprazolam in today, so I'll be getting chill with that and some hash oils.
Stay positive my man!
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Rockin' New Year to everybody!
I just placed an order for BM.
Let's see how it goes. I have high hopes.
Ace of Spades,
~Q~
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Ahhh I need coins!!!
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I just noticed BM's new listings. I only had enough coins left for 1g but I'm happy with that. I can't wait!
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BTC's for 1g of BM's are on their way. 8)
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Did BM ever have 25g listings?
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Just thought I'd repost / quote my message to see if anybody has any advice or info:
I thought I may as well post here and see if anybody else has come across my issue.
I recently purchased some of SuperTrip's speed paste and noticed it's amazing stuff when you snort it, but when IV'ing it, it has a funny way of hardening up and going a weird grey colour which you can't really inject. Any idea why it may be doing this or how to fix it?
I think it's quite odd how it does this. I saw it myself for the first time the other day and I've heard it from many, many people. It becomes a gunky consistency and turns a beige / creamy colour. :/
Sounds like what you get when the speed is cut with certain brands of pills (crushed of course). The speed I got from Der Speed Doktor many months ago behaved in this way, and apparently it's not unheard of on the street either.
Does the entire solution harden up, or do you get cotton-like crystals inside the solution?
Couldn't find any decent picture of the phenomenon I have in mind, this will have to do: https://i1.ytimg.com/vi/hCM-iYZXFRs/mqdefault.jpg
There's an entire video about it on youtube, voiced in glorious hurdy-gurdy, but you've got to login to see it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCM-iYZXFRs
Needless to say (lulz needles) you shouldn't IV a "solution" containing significant amounts of insoluble particles.
What you guys are talking about sounds remarkably similar to methyl cellulose. If you have any left, do an acetone wash, then an IPA wash, and let us know what the results are.
Alternatively, if you have access to wheel filters, dissolve the amphetamine in ethanol, and filter through a 20-40 micron wheel filter.
I believe a lot of pseudoephedrine tablets these days are compounded with methyl cellulose due to their use in meth production.
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I just noticed BM's new listings. I only had enough coins left for 1g but I'm happy with that. I can't wait!
Two grams of Boymaster's amp will be making their way to my house soon... hopefully about the time Ruthenium's dex runs out. :)
Glad to see good amphetamine returning to SR and looking forward to a very productive 2013.
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WHO HAVE AT THIS MOMENT THE BEST Speed IN EUROPE, PLEASE? :)
no one right now :-[. PremiumDutch http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/da8e0d2abf has the best lab-tested stuff right now I think with ~55% amph and ~45% caffeine.. http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.msg675044#msg675044
Personally I am waiting for one of these vendors to sell again, all of them are selling self-made uncut stuff:
ruthenium
iisthisisi
CapeCrusader
BoyMaster
Thank you for the info, this vendors have closed only cause it is christmas time?
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so much wisdom in the previous post ;)
Yes, hold more a while, they are coming back..
I burned the last BM gears I kept for the new year. And started very well!
Happy new year to all the amph thread posters.
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OMG BM IS BACK! :D
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I'm with jagfug, happy fucking new year too haha
I've got a good feeling about 2013, fresh start for me. 2012 was a bit of a rotten year. And the best stimulant I could get my hands on was Methiopropamine. A relative of methamphetamine (So i read on a forum). I keep some around for when I haven't got speed.
I've got an AMSTERDOPE order on its way, and you know thats getting analysed to fuck when it arrives on my, oh, I need a doormat... er anyhow :)
No vendor is safe, we're an army of tweaked out fuck ups, hell bent on finding THAT gear (maybe I speak for myself there hehe)
And if we don't like your shit, we'll hunt you down, steal your TV and burn down your house. Got it? (Only joking not really a pyromaniac, but I might cry, curse you, and share my opinion, but that doesn't sound tough or scary hehe)
@Muslix You cheeky fucker! :) You should getting to know by now I'm the grand master, font of all knowledge, and thou shalt respect thee. Now, Kiss ma toes hehehehe. No seriously, love ya. The cosmos may shine a light.
No seriously, I learn a lot from all of you and take authentic knowledge very seriously. I should put knowledge, and self knowledge in my sig. Encyclopedia's should be given to all kids IMO
On the dental hygeine, I read someplace that amphetamine doesn't rot your teeth, it's the saliva that becomes more acidic as a result of taking amphetamine, regular brushing and checking a good brand of gum helps combat this. I imagine health salts make an impact?? It's one worth reading up on. I ain't losing my teeth. It's not about dentures and gappy grins lol. Oh my daze!
Happy whizz hunting. Come on CC, Ruthenium and Iisthisisi (how the fuck you pronounce that?) Bring it on for the 13. And Jesus too, when you come back to obliterate foolishness, I hope you sell rocket fuel dextro. Massive love. NumNuts
PS. Going to leave the acetone wash, the gear I've got doesn't warrant it... But I will make a tutorial very soon, my gift to speed lovers everywhere
PPS. When does Karma giving become an option? jagfugs making me jealous haha.
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Did BM ever have 25g listings?
yes, he did, still cant connect dammit.
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Did BM ever have 25g listings?
yes, he did, still cant connect dammit.
Ah, I hope that doesn't mean that he has a lower supply amount this time around :/
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Ruthenium indicated theres a possibilty of him (or her for that matter) having a new batch within the next couple of week. I'm refilling my account as we speak, and waiting patiently :)
Seems were going to be spoilt for choice if the rumours turn out to be true. YAY!
I may even send some to my mum....
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BoyMaster is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm with jagfug, happy fucking new year too haha
I've got a good feeling about 2013, fresh start for me. 2012 was a bit of a rotten year. And the best stimulant I could get my hands on was Methiopropamine. A relative of methamphetamine (So i read on a forum). I keep some around for when I haven't got speed.
I've got an AMSTERDOPE order on its way, and you know thats getting analysed to fuck when it arrives on my, oh, I need a doormat... er anyhow :)
No vendor is safe, we're an army of tweaked out fuck ups, hell bent on finding THAT gear (maybe I speak for myself there hehe)
And if we don't like your shit, we'll hunt you down, steal your TV and burn down your house. Got it? (Only joking not really a pyromaniac, but I might cry, curse you, and share my opinion, but that doesn't sound tough or scary hehe)
@Muslix You cheeky fucker! :) You should getting to know by now I'm the grand master, font of all knowledge, and thou shalt respect thee. Now, Kiss ma toes hehehehe. No seriously, love ya. The cosmos may shine a light.
No seriously, I learn a lot from all of you and take authentic knowledge very seriously. I should put knowledge, and self knowledge in my sig. Encyclopedia's should be given to all kids IMO
On the dental hygeine, I read someplace that amphetamine doesn't rot your teeth, it's the saliva that becomes more acidic as a result of taking amphetamine, regular brushing and checking a good brand of gum helps combat this. I imagine health salts make an impact?? It's one worth reading up on. I ain't losing my teeth. It's not about dentures and gappy grins lol. Oh my daze!
Happy whizz hunting. Come on CC, Ruthenium and Iisthisisi (how the fuck you pronounce that?) Bring it on for the 13. And Jesus too, when you come back to obliterate foolishness, I hope you sell rocket fuel dextro. Massive love. NumNuts
PS. Going to leave the acetone wash, the gear I've got doesn't warrant it... But I will make a tutorial very soon, my gift to speed lovers everywhere
PPS. When does Karma giving become an option? jagfugs making me jealous haha.
When you hit 100 posts, you're granted that magical power. You could be on the "dungeons and dragons" thread. Or type "blah, blah, blah" 100 times. Then you have this meaningless power. Although I think it encourages this discourse here on forums, and for that, it works for me.
Waiting for mail in the morning. Really 9 hours away for this EST SR'er
Made it through the 4 day depression. Hoping for a happy mail delivery. Although, I'm not getting them too high.
Expect nothing, and you're never let down.
peace
a sober jagfug
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BM's prizes for those unable to connect - unchanged? Anyone got his sample by now?
1g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿2.96 $39.46
10g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿21.44 $285.37
5g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿11.98 $159.45
2g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿5.28 $70.30
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six6one asked me to FE, which of course I didn't agree to do, and now BM is back. Excellent timing!
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~My Speed Odyssey~
After MrFire left us i searched after a new German Speed seller.
dagobert --> waited 2 weeks --> nothing and no replys, so i cancelled
Powerade --> waited 1 week --> Powerade cancelled !but apologized!
proline --> ordered 26th, processing and i´m waiting
Yeah i love this Christmas + my domestic German sellers here x.X ^^
proline --> ordered 26th, waiting 1 week now, nothing appeared today...
I´m waiting now a whole month for fucking speed -.-
4 Wochen und einige BTC verloren durch diesen Mist, gibt es keine normalen Deutschen Verkäufer mehr auf die man sich verlassen kann?!
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Expect nothing, and you're never let down.
This. :)
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ooh glad BM is back. Too bad he increased his prices quite a bit (or am I mistaking?)
also too bad that I spent all my coins already... damn. Looking forward to reading the reviews while I wait for my coins :)
rutheium is coming back too? That is great! I wasn't very impressed with his dex at first but I really love it now. It is odd really, i like his product much more when I take smaller doses. Around 20-30 mg three times daily usually does the trick. When I dosed 80mg+ I couldn't get any pleasure or productivity out of it, and massive vascular constriction to go along with it. I remember playing guitar and my strumming hand turning blue... probably because it is bend over the body of the guitar while playing, but still... I don't usually get that with other amphetamine products.
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If the yield you got was very low, then the speed you bought was heavily cut. I've done it twice also, with some dynamite paste I got locally, and the yield was over 50%. I let the amphetamine completely dry before I removed it. turned the filter inside while holding it over a tray, there were molecules of amphetamine left on the filter, but not very much. But I dont like waste, so I put the dried filter into a coffee, after cutting it down with scissors so it fit ok into a cup. Water will do the job also. Stir, and drink. This way nothing is lost.
Also, be sure to use acetone without water in it. Most retail acetone has 1% water in it, which dissolves a fair amount of the precious chemicals you want keep! eBay has this stuff. Might be called anhydous acetone (CBA checking)
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Thanks for the reply! I knew that water is pretty much the enemy when washing your amphetamine but I didn't know that most retail acetone had 1% water in it. I bought a bottle at the drug store and the only thing on the ingredients-list on the label was acetone, but then again, maybe if it's just water and the percentage is that low, company's are not obliged to put it on the label or something. Might give Ebay a try but for now I'll just try to avoid the bad quality street stuff all together I guess :)
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Placed an order with BM to check out his famous gear for myself by the way. I wonder what happened to his sample reviews though? Or maybe I'm just impatient.
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It's amazing that there isn't anyone who can deliver pure amphetamine sulfate constantly.
This Silk Road is an ideal place for a group to set up an operation that is much safer than old fashion face 2 face operations.
In here they can get rid of middleman and get a much better price for the product even when selling at much lower price than some thugs would sell it on street.
WHY THIS IS NOT HAPPENING!!!
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It's amazing that there isn't anyone who can deliver pure amphetamine sulfate constantly.
This Silk Road is an ideal place for a group to set up an operation that is much safer than old fashion face 2 face operations.
In here they can get rid of middleman and get a much better price for the product even when selling at much lower price than some thugs would sell it on street.
WHY THIS IS NOT HAPPENING!!!
This has been happening.
But look what happens when you get chemists cutting out the middlemen, distribution falls apart.
Making the gear and putting it up for sale is just part of the business.
And if your gear is good, you're going to be swamped with business.
We've seen quite a few examples of producers just not being able to cut it (heh) with the distribution and management, and falling apart at the seams.
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BM's prizes for those unable to connect - unchanged? Anyone got his sample by now?
1g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿2.96 $39.46
10g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿21.44 $285.37
5g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿11.98 $159.45
2g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿5.28 $70.30
30€ for 1g. Not sure if want.
But i will try.
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BM's prizes for those unable to connect - unchanged? Anyone got his sample by now?
1g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿2.96 $39.46
10g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿21.44 $285.37
5g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿11.98 $159.45
2g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿5.28 $70.30
30€ for 1g. Not sure if want.
http://i.imgur.com/YOUfP.jpg
But i will try.
It only seems expensive, I know I could get 1g speed for 5€ here - in bulk actually for 4,20€- , but these won't have more then 10% for sure and will be wet. The only people able to compete with BM's prizes are those who manufacture themself. I hope for competition soonish, but until then BM is 50 - 100 % cheaper than every other vendor on SR.
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Hi all, remember me? So I finally caved after months of waiting for BMs gear to be back up and after doing a bit of catching up on the forums ordered from Evilution but now BM is back and I would have liked to just put all my coins into that but oh well I guess. His prices did go up but it's good shit so I don't mind. Hopefully we won't see another multi-month break between this and his next batch. Did Evilution's gear ever get lab tested?
Also, NumNuts, the dental decay thing is actually more about having less saliva in your mouth, which causes the gums to dry out and get damaged leading eventually to tooth loss. Browning and blackening of teeth also has to do with decreased saliva but mostly to do with the fact that we usually don't bother cleaning and flossing when getting right fucked by good gear like a $2 whore at a 1920s tent revival.
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Good day and Happy new year to everybody
My listings will go up on Monday.
Prices:
1 gram: $29.7
2 grams: $55
5 grams: $121
Cheers
CC
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Welcome back CC! Damn! I chose the absolute worst time to go cave in and buy non-primo gear.
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Goodness, BM and CC back. I was really getting used to Powerades stuff and may stick with it.
Any reviews on BMs latest batch?
I love how BM has nothing but his PGP on his vendor page and lets the product speak for itself, classy
HNY all :-*
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Proline´s Amphe is here yeah!
8days domestic but i think it´s ok because of the christmas/new year shitstorm crap at the poststation.
Nice and dry, tried 40mg and it feels normal&good
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<3 Welcome back CC and BM! I really picked up a bad time to take my break. But I'll just buy and store in the fridge (not mine, or I doubt I will just leave it there :P) for future usage.. ;)
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already ordered from BM as a returning customer 8)
Same on CC....will def order
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Regarding the teeth when on speed; some tips:
- Sip water often
- Brush teeth 3 times a day (if your teeth become sensitive, use a brush with a soft head. This also helps with bleeding gums. You should run your brush over your gums and tongue every time you brush too)
- Use a tongue scrapper. Takes 2 seconds extra each time you brush. Amph users have stinking breath!
- Use a mouthwash every time you brush. Sometimes mouthwash can actually give you bad breath, especially when used after your night time brush. I think this is because the alcohol in mouthwash dries your mouth out. There are now mouthwashes on the market that have no alcohol in them and are just as effective (eg. Listerine Zero).
- I read somewhere that speed can reduce your calcium levels. Whether this is true or not, a daily calcium supplement can't be a bad idea. My daily multi-vitamin contains 100% calcium RDA
- Be aware that when on speed you can grind your teeth and cletch your jaw. Grinding your teeth damages them
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It's amazing that there isn't anyone who can deliver pure amphetamine sulfate constantly.
This Silk Road is an ideal place for a group to set up an operation that is much safer than old fashion face 2 face operations.
In here they can get rid of middleman and get a much better price for the product even when selling at much lower price than some thugs would sell it on street.
WHY THIS IS NOT HAPPENING!!!
This has been happening.
But look what happens when you get chemists cutting out the middlemen, distribution falls apart.
Making the gear and putting it up for sale is just part of the business.
And if your gear is good, you're going to be swamped with business.
We've seen quite a few examples of producers just not being able to cut it (heh) with the distribution and management, and falling apart at the seams.
The problem is that chemists who make and sell 90%+ speed generally use cost-inefficient methods of synthesis. Sure, they still only spend about $2/g for precursors, but they are usually using standard 1000ml/500ml distillation kits so they only synth 100-200 grams at a time.
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It's amazing that there isn't anyone who can deliver pure amphetamine sulfate constantly.
This Silk Road is an ideal place for a group to set up an operation that is much safer than old fashion face 2 face operations.
In here they can get rid of middleman and get a much better price for the product even when selling at much lower price than some thugs would sell it on street.
WHY THIS IS NOT HAPPENING!!!
This has been happening.
But look what happens when you get chemists cutting out the middlemen, distribution falls apart.
Making the gear and putting it up for sale is just part of the business.
And if your gear is good, you're going to be swamped with business.
We've seen quite a few examples of producers just not being able to cut it (heh) with the distribution and management, and falling apart at the seams.
The problem is that chemists who make and sell 90%+ speed generally use cost-inefficient methods of synthesis. Sure, they still only spend about $2/g for precursors, but they are usually using standard 1000ml/500ml distillation kits so they only synth 100-200 grams at a time.
Yeah I am working with my CHEM C2000 kit: http://www.toptenreviews.com/i/rev/misc/articles/4231/top-ten-chemist-8.jpg
Muahahah ;D
It's not as easy as buying precursors and some glass. You've to be much much more sophisticated.
Lol... A batch of 200g wouldn't last more than one or two days on SR...
Cheers
BM
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The problem is that chemists who make and sell 90%+ speed generally use cost-inefficient methods of synthesis. Sure, they still only spend about $2/g for precursors, but they are usually using standard 1000ml/500ml distillation kits so they only synth 100-200 grams at a time.
On a related note, I'd rather do business with and support a relatively small scale producer than some crime syndicate with a body count. In a business as shady as the drug trade I reckon "bigger" usually equals "more unpleasant", which of course is not an absolute truth but probably a good rule of thumb.
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CC ??? ??? ??? Did I already miss the listings? I have kept a stash of coin just for you and I guess I still missed you. Well, nice to see you back.
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Now CC is back?! I think I'll only be able to get a gram but that is still sweet! I'll have a gram of BM, CC and 5 of Evilution soon!
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Hi,
Is it possible to study on BM/CC's gear or is it too strong?
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Hi,
Is it possible to study on BM/CC's gear or is it too strong?
Take small dose.
Cutting agents do not make amphetamine more suitable for studying.
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CC ??? ??? ??? Did I already miss the listings? I have kept a stash of coin just for you and I guess I still missed you. Well, nice to see you back.
No he said he's listing them Monday.
Welcome back CC!
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Quote from: nomnom1 on December 13, 2012, 07:31 AM
hi guys,
i have never used speed before and got 1g of powerades second batch (the one that he sold around a week ago). i read up around 20 pages of this thread before and he seemed to be a good vendor with weak, but fine speed.
now in the meantime someone wrote that he had to vomit from unpacking and testing a little and another one "There is a very stinky aggressive solvent in it.
I had a spill on the table from this solvent and immediately the varnish disappeared and the surface was rough.".
so is this normal and save to use after drying or should i throw it away? i opened the package yesterday and let it dry and yes it smells very chemical (didnt get sick or anything of the smell so) and just looked at the forum now before i wanted to try it to make sure its save and now i read all this....
arent there any expierienced useres that tested it? im fine with coffeine (take 200-400mg daily since years) but now afraid of that solvents and dont want to get poisend. money is no issue. i intended to snort it.
thx in advance
The speed paste you received most likely contains acetone, which yes, will strip paint of varnish off something.
Dry the paste completely (open the bag and leave it in the sun for an hour or so).
If you've never tried speed before, I would personally recommend eating it, instead of snorting it.
Speed is very powerful and it may be too strong for a new user if you snorted it. Just my opinion anyway. It wouldn't be a nice feeling trying speed for the first time and having too much. It hits pretty hard. That's my opinion anyway - it's completely up to you and others might say otherwise.
I'd recommend starting out with 50mg first and waiting 45 minutes to let it kick in fully. Consume more if you want to. I don't know the strength of purity of the speed, so it's hard to determine a good dose.
I'm sure you'll enjoy the speed anyway :-)
just a quick summary. so i snorted one line when on alk/weed just to test if toxic etc or whatever. no problem and not feeling anything, maybe like sober taking a coffee.
so when i finally used it i snorted 3/4 of it in one session (around 48h). i really liked it, i guess its a kind of drug i can use to substitute some of my bad alcoholism (i tried that with weed but no chance. thats just not my drug). so i felt good and focused during that time and drinking on it seemed even contra productive (you just dont get drunk and neither have demand for it). im sure i will order some more when it is available again, so i think this is also the ideal way to get rid of some overweight i got (eating on alk and weed is just great......). as far as concerning coffein there has to be very less in it or even nothing. i needed my coffein tablet on the second day to get rid of a upcoming "coffein withdraw headache"(im used to 200-300mg per day = few espresso/coffee) while still snorting. there also was no problem to sleep after finishing (it was kinda take again a line or fall to coma).
worst thing is that snorting of course, i think my nose does not like that very much (gets a little bleedy/dirty...still days after. so never blood dropped out but when you blow the nose their was some blood in).
so as powerade atm is out of stock i also orderded sth from bm. lets see how that shit goes :D
kind regards. i really like these forums here with all that experience you can suck up. exchange will ad to progress.
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Just ordered 2g of BoyMasters stuff after reading all the praising comments on here. Since I'm pretty much still an Amphetamine n00b I want to know what REAL, pure stuff feels like.
I'm gonna add that I'm gonna have to be WAY more careful with this drug, or I'm gonna end up in the emergency room or worse. New Years eve I think I overdid it a bit in combination with the nasal spray test, the mixing in my drink and the snorting all night on top of all this. When I went to bed in the morning my heartbeat was going berserk and my hands and feet were tingling from the vascular construction this drug causes when you use it without thinking (according to my wife's co-worker, a doctor). I've been dizzy and totally fucked up for 3 days straight. Thanks to a lot of rest, vitamines and workout I feel normal again now. Thank God!! So from now on, I'm saving this drug for special occasions. Lesson learned.
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CC is love you. Is that weird?
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Planning on buying 2g of pure amph from CC, BM, and ruth when he gets his next batch up, and doing a comparitive purity test on each. Won't be able to get any sort of lab grade accuracy, but I think I should be able to get it within +/- 5%.
Will post here with results.
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phew, I'm at the end of my benzo wd. it wasn't a really bad one, but prohibited me from using any speed. been 2 weeks since I last had amph.
I learnt my lesson to not use amph ERRY DAMN DAY, cause that means I pop a pill to sleep. Waiting for some of Evilution stuff.
I sampled mercury's speed. it was only a little wet and lost 20% weight or so. Quality was above average but I had tolerance and benzo dependence.
I would say it's legitimate speed that doesn't lose too much weight but I'm really unable to speculate as to the quality. It didn't blow me away, no.
Is BM's new stuff same synth as before? i.e bit of the bodyloads?
CC's stuff was very good, little bodyload but I would take either of them than the caffeinated shit I used for 2 months. Less adulterant, less need for cns depressant.
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so much gear and I still don't have any (ordered).
Has anyone received BM's sample yet?
I had some ISP breakage/fixage and now the whole SR shebang seems to be a bit more accessible (i.e. I actually can connect again), anyone else noticed some improvements or was this really caused by my provider (they hardly improve anything, ever)?
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so much gear and I still don't have any (ordered).
Has anyone received BM's sample yet?
I had some ISP breakage/fixage and now the whole SR shebang seems to be a bit more accessible (i.e. I actually can connect again), anyone else noticed some improvements or was this really caused by my provider (they hardly improve anything, ever)?
I noticed much better connections when I switched to using a newer Tor version than the one that came with the browser bundle until recently. They've since updated the one bundled into it -- if you updated, that may be the cause. If not... then yes, it seems your ISP actually improved how they handle traffic on their network.
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CC how long do you think your listings will be up for? I will need a few days to acquire coins and want to buy bulk.
BM, same question, if it is possible to estimate.
Also, either one of you planning on some bulk listings?
I just worry that since we have created celebrities out of you two that you might sell out rather quickly.
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Woot, this is awesome news :D
Btw, to CC and BM: Why do you keep selling the 1 and 2g packages? Isn't it too much hassle for such small amounts? I mean.. you've both clearly build up a great reputation so it's not needed to attract new customers. If you'd sell only 5g+ packages it would be way easier for you to handle :) Or am I missing something here? Maybe higher profit margin on the smaller orders? Is it worth the trouble?
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Woot, this is awesome news :D
Btw, to CC and BM: Why do you keep selling the 1 and 2g packages? Isn't it too much hassle for such small amounts? I mean.. you've both clearly build up a great reputation so it's not needed to attract new customers. If you'd sell only 5g+ packages it would be way easier for you to handle :) Or am I missing something here? Maybe higher profit margin on the smaller orders? Is it worth the trouble?
agreed. I want to see these guys around for a while and not burn out on 1 gram orders. They should at least make the 1 & 2 g's much more worth it (CC anyway).
.02btc
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Welcome,
CC how long do you think your listings will be up for? I will need a few days to acquire coins and want to buy bulk.
BM, same question, if it is possible to estimate.
Also, either one of you planning on some bulk listings?
I just worry that since we have created celebrities out of you two that you might sell out rather quickly.
It's hard to estimate, but it should last at least a few days ;) maybe more than a month.
Woot, this is awesome news :D
Btw, to CC and BM: Why do you keep selling the 1 and 2g packages? Isn't it too much hassle for such small amounts? I mean.. you've both clearly build up a great reputation so it's not needed to attract new customers. If you'd sell only 5g+ packages it would be way easier for you to handle :) Or am I missing something here? Maybe higher profit margin on the smaller orders? Is it worth the trouble?
I would like to explain that things but I really can't speak too much about our strategies. But there are good reasons to keep selling them.
Cheers
BM
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Thanks for the response, I hope its the second answer! :) I bet the strategy is that 1g and 2g increase profits to the max!
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Ordered 1g from Boymaster. He has marked it as in transit already. Hope there will be a extra g for free ;)
I'll post a review after receiving and testing.
Cheers BM & the others 8)
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Just was away a few days, not online, and so I didn´t follow everything here.
So my question now only is: Has BM taken up business again? Are orders already possible, or do we still have to wait?
thx4info.
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Just was away a few days, not online, and so I didn´t follow everything here.
So my question now only is: Has BM taken up business again? Are orders already possible, or do we still have to wait?
thx4info.
BM has taken up business again and is already sending out. CC starts selling again on Monday.
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I would like to explain that things but I really can't speak too much about our strategies. But there are good reasons to keep selling them.
Cheers
BM
You can always PM me 0:)
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@Boymaster
I'm not a big user myself, so I really appreciate the 1G listings. It gives everyone a chance to taste some awesome speed. :) Thanks
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@Boymaster
I'm not a big user myself, so I really appreciate the 1G listings. It gives everyone a chance to taste some awesome speed. :) Thanks
Same here. I use speed to study, so I need usually 50 maybe max 100mg a week. One gram can last several months. I appreciate the smaller listings!
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I appreciate the 1g listings because I'm broke most of the time. :'(
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Same here, I really appreciate the 1g listings because I'm not a big user. I'd rather spend a little more money on ordering small amounts every once in a while than having 10g sitting in my freezer for all eternity.
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OK, I'm no "noob" but I am a little late to the speed party. (started enjoying adderall very much at age 50) -
So 2 questions for someone experienced more than I.
1. WTF is "bodyload". I hear a lot of people referring to it.
2. What is the advantage of putting speed in the freezer? - I failed chemistry, but I could swear I read somewhere that speed does not go stale.
Thanks in advance for the shared knowledge.
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OK, I'm no "noob" but I am a little late to the speed party. (started enjoying adderall very much at age 50) -
So 2 questions for someone experienced more than I.
1. WTF is "bodyload". I hear a lot of people referring to it.
2. What is the advantage of putting speed in the freezer? - I failed chemistry, but I could swear I read somewhere that speed does not go stale.
Thanks in advance for the shared knowledge.
Briefly: body load is the more physical side of speed. Generally considered to be from the levo- isomer of amphetamine. The dextro- isomer is 75% of adderall and 100% of dexedrine. That's the one people are generally after. Some think a racemic (50/50 dextro/levo) product makes you hornier. I've never noticed a strong enough correlation to say either way, but there are those who believe it.
Some people like racemic stuff because they enjoy the physical side of it. Some don't. Basically body load is just the non-psychological aspects. The tweaky stuff. Tapping your leg non-stop. Feeling tense and realizing you've been grinding your jaw for two hours. Tightness in the chest, rapid heart beat. That sort of stuff. It's not a scientific definition or anything.
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Can anyone in the US tell, in their experience, how fast BM's priority shipping is? Or just how fast it has taken generally.
I live in the northeast and am getting excited.
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OK, I'm no "noob" but I am a little late to the speed party. (started enjoying adderall very much at age 50) -
So 2 questions for someone experienced more than I.
1. WTF is "bodyload". I hear a lot of people referring to it.
2. What is the advantage of putting speed in the freezer? - I failed chemistry, but I could swear I read somewhere that speed does not go stale.
Thanks in advance for the shared knowledge.
1. What SS said.
2. There isn't really one, its part of the myth, that "fresh" paste is something special, while it is actually crap. The stuff you will be getting from BM or CC should be stored dry and dark, it will probably last for years that way without losing potency.
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There isn't really one, its part of the myth, that "fresh" paste is something special, while it is actually crap. The stuff you will be getting from BM or CC should be stored dry and dark, it will probably last for years that way without losing potency.
I think you're wrong. Amphetamine last for a month without losing potency. If it's inside of the freezer, it lasts for years.
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heavy bodyload is a negative term. Obviously, speed that makes you super tweaked out is generally gonna have a bit of bodyload (tachycardia mainly and blood pressure increase probable).
I prefer as little bodyload as possible but I never aim to get super twonked.
I don't remember if it's a theory or more factual, but I read something abuot every heart having a predesignated amount of heartbeats it can manage per lifetime. (among animals and humans)... Obviously if you are very fit and exercise a lot your resting heart rate becomes lower, so that helps your hearts durability and life expectancy.
You take heavy bodyload speed and binge out weeks on end with double resting heartrate etc you are pretty much lowering your life expectancy 2x (taking 2 days off your heart when only 1 day has passed, is it worth it?) . Obviously you could have an amazingly healthy cardiovascular system then get cancer but that's life !! At least look after the stuff you can control.
To new users:
Get a 0.001g digital scale on ebay or something, it costs nothing. Don't eyeball potent stuff like BM n CC. You take too much it's gonna be like there's an alien in your chest. :>
I've seen posts here of ppl going "i took maybe 150-300mg" eyeballing lines n snorting. that be suicidal with BM stuff :) know your dosages down to the mg's... know your limits else things can get uncomfortable quickly.
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Some people like racemic stuff because they enjoy the physical side of it. Some don't. Basically body load is just the non-psychological aspects. The tweaky stuff. Tapping your leg non-stop. Feeling tense and realizing you've been grinding your jaw for two hours. Tightness in the chest, rapid heart beat. That sort of stuff. It's not a scientific definition or anything.
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Thank you SelfSovereignty, and Stoney1984 as well, +1 Karma to you both. - and I can attest to BM's speed (delivery time speed). I just looked back at the FB I left, one I state "Under a week" another "8 days to East Coast of USA-outstanding!"
So hopefully that stays the same! Getting my BTC's tomorrow!
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heavy bodyload is a negative term. Obviously, speed that makes you super tweaked out is generally gonna have a bit of bodyload (tachycardia mainly and blood pressure increase probable).
I prefer as little bodyload as possible but I never aim to get super twonked.
I don't remember if it's a theory or more factual, but I read something abuot every heart having a predesignated amount of heartbeats it can manage per lifetime. (among animals and humans)... Obviously if you are very fit and exercise a lot your resting heart rate becomes lower, so that helps your hearts durability and life expectancy.
You take heavy bodyload speed and binge out weeks on end with double resting heartrate etc you are pretty much lowering your life expectancy 2x. Obviously you could have an amazingly healthy cardiovascular system then get cancer but that's life !! At least look after the stuff you can control.
Karma up for you too ohnoes123! Thanks.
Amazingly my body reacts very positively to amphetamine. Well adderall in particular. 1st off, I went from 245lbs to 170lbs in a year. Which made my previous High Blood Pressure-normal again. Lowered my cholesterol to "normal" limits, that had been high. Even my resting pulse was like that of a 20 year old, or so the doctor told me. He didn't know I was taking adderall, (my shrink prescribed it), and I went in for my checkup while on Boymaster's speed! LoL!
He said, "whatever you're doing, keep doing it". I had a grin like the cat that ate the canary!
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There isn't really one, its part of the myth, that "fresh" paste is something special, while it is actually crap. The stuff you will be getting from BM or CC should be stored dry and dark, it will probably last for years that way without losing potency.
I think you're wrong. Amphetamine last for a month without losing potency. If it's inside of the freezer, it lasts for years.
While I was browsing the internet to prove you wrong, I found this which proves you right ;D: http://www.chemicalbook.com/ProductChemicalPropertiesCB1496956_EN.htm , well but is says stable as well which means in my understanding it won't react at room temperature...
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To new users:
Get a 0.001g digital scale on ebay or something, it costs nothing. Don't eyeball potent stuff like BM n CC. You take too much it's gonna be like there's an alien in your chest. :>
I've seen posts here of ppl going "i took maybe 150-300mg" eyeballing lines n snorting. that be suicidal with BM stuff :) know your dosages down to the mg's... know your limits else things can get uncomfortable quickly.
I got my digital scale on Deal Extreme for a ridiculously low price (compared to what a 0.001g scale would cost in a store here in my country). Got it to accurately determine 4-fa dosages but now I use it for pretty much everything. With amphetamines I noticed that there's quite a big difference in volume between different products so I'd say it's definitely worth using a scale as a 100mg line from vendor A might look much less than a 100mg line from vendor B's product.
Here's my scale: http://dx.com/p/digital-precision-scale-20g-max-0-001g-resolution-10515
It's more like 0.002 or 0.003 acurate actually but for this price I'd say that is still pretty good.
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There isn't really one, its part of the myth, that "fresh" paste is something special, while it is actually crap. The stuff you will be getting from BM or CC should be stored dry and dark, it will probably last for years that way without losing potency.
I think you're wrong. Amphetamine last for a month without losing potency. If it's inside of the freezer, it lasts for years.
While I was browsing the internet to prove you wrong, I found this which proves you right ;D: http://www.chemicalbook.com/ProductChemicalPropertiesCB1496956_EN.htm , well but is says stable as well which means in my understanding it won't react at room temperature...
We split our fame, ok? ;D
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heavy bodyload is a negative term. Obviously, speed that makes you super tweaked out is generally gonna have a bit of bodyload (tachycardia mainly and blood pressure increase probable).
I prefer as little bodyload as possible but I never aim to get super twonked.
I don't remember if it's a theory or more factual, but I read something abuot every heart having a predesignated amount of heartbeats it can manage per lifetime. (among animals and humans)... Obviously if you are very fit and exercise a lot your resting heart rate becomes lower, so that helps your hearts durability and life expectancy.
You take heavy bodyload speed and binge out weeks on end with double resting heartrate etc you are pretty much lowering your life expectancy 2x (taking 2 days off your heart when only 1 day has passed, is it worth it?) . Obviously you could have an amazingly healthy cardiovascular system then get cancer but that's life !! At least look after the stuff you can control.
To new users:
Get a 0.001g digital scale on ebay or something, it costs nothing. Don't eyeball potent stuff like BM n CC. You take too much it's gonna be like there's an alien in your chest. :>
I've seen posts here of ppl going "i took maybe 150-300mg" eyeballing lines n snorting. that be suicidal with BM stuff :) know your dosages down to the mg's... know your limits else things can get uncomfortable quickly.
+1
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Looks like this question might be answered in the last couple of posts but what are the most common short/long term negative effects from amp use?
I used iisthisis stuff for like 10 days straight, average 250mg a day, got sleep every night although which helped. The only negative pat was as a dose was wearing off I would notice that my heart was beating really aggressively. Also, I think I felt a pain in my left hand/shoulder but this could be entirely psychosomatic as I tend to be a bit of a hypochondriac.
Stopped taking this stuff about 3 or 4 days ago and was expecting really bad comedown but didn't get anything noticeable, no nightmares, depression loss of libido etc. Maybe I should have waited another week before taking some more this afternoon :cheeky:
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has no one received samples from BM?
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I used iisthisis stuff for like 10 days straight, average 250mg a day, got sleep every night although which helped. The only negative pat was as a dose was wearing off I would notice that my heart was beating really aggressively. Also, I think I felt a pain in my left hand/shoulder but this could be entirely psychosomatic as I tend to be a bit of a hypochondriac.
I had 1g "30%" from iisthisis and only felt bad once, when i overdosed (but still under 100mg) in combination with alcohol (very unhealthy combination).
Apart from that, less till no bodyload, clean high.
has no one received samples from BM?
Good question. I would like to read some reviews respective to bodyload, before ordering.
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Just was away a few days, not online, and so I didn´t follow everything here.
So my question now only is: Has BM taken up business again? Are orders already possible, or do we still have to wait?
thx4info.
BM has taken up business again and is already sending out. CC starts selling again on Monday.
thx4info, mate - that´s what I call nice news...
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just checked BM´s vendor-profile.
well, prices are high compared to others selling amph, but I´m sure, it´s worth every cent after all what I´ve read here about his stuff.
Maybe I´ll give his service a try.
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has no one received samples from BM?
nope, sadly nothing so far.
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I used iisthisis stuff for like 10 days straight, average 250mg a day, got sleep every night although which helped. The only negative pat was as a dose was wearing off I would notice that my heart was beating really aggressively.
Probably more that the euphoria wore off and you only just started noticing how fast your heart was beating
Also, I think I felt a pain in my left hand/shoulder but this could be entirely psychosomatic as I tend to be a bit of a hypochondriac.
heh, stop fapping.
Stopped taking this stuff about 3 or 4 days ago and was expecting really bad comedown but didn't get anything noticeable, no nightmares, depression loss of libido etc. Maybe I should have waited another week before taking some more this afternoon :cheeky:
Sometimes I get real bad headaches, sometimes I get nothing from ceasation, it seems somewhat random.
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Looks like this question might be answered in the last couple of posts but what are the most common short/long term negative effects from amp use?
I used iisthisis stuff for like 10 days straight, average 250mg a day, got sleep every night although which helped. The only negative pat was as a dose was wearing off I would notice that my heart was beating really aggressively. Also, I think I felt a pain in my left hand/shoulder but this could be entirely psychosomatic as I tend to be a bit of a hypochondriac.
Stopped taking this stuff about 3 or 4 days ago and was expecting really bad comedown but didn't get anything noticeable, no nightmares, depression loss of libido etc. Maybe I should have waited another week before taking some more this afternoon :cheeky:
I don't know how long you have to take daily doses, but if you stay at 250mg/day (and it really is 250mg of amphetamine, not cut), you'll almost definitely experience withdrawal after stopping cold. Personally I get extremely sleepy. I mean I can't stay awake for more than like, 3 hours at a time. I feel unbelievably weak for the first day or two. As in getting up and walking across the room makes my chest feel like I haven't eaten for days. Hard to describe. It all goes away within 3-4 days though, unless you've been using for years... but that's different.
I've heard at least two others talk about this as well, one just from clinical doses of adderall, so all that "not physically addictive" shit you see? Yeah, that'd be bullshit. But unfortunately, the physical addiction is the easy part. It's the psychological addiction that gets you. I mean don't smoke a cigarette for 3 days, and you're done -- physical addiction's gone, basically, right. So why the fuck do I still want a cigarette years after quitting? ::)
Amphetamines can cause severe psychological dependency in some people. I mean really severe sometimes. That's the worst risk, frankly. They're also supposed to cause some neuronal damage at high and repeated doses, stress the heart and all that... but I can't really comment on it, myself.
Edit: I just realized I sound as though I'm saying you'll get *my* symptoms at 250mg/day. You most likely won't get anything quite that bad. I'm retarded, quite frankly. I take a lot more than 250mg a day.
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has no one received samples from BM?
nope, sadly nothing so far.
Wait. Nobody got their samples from BM?!? Nobody ??? I hope it's just the Holiday mail backup. I've read on other threads where even vendors are scratching their heads that stuff is not showing up that was mailed like Christmas Eve. It does make sense now. I had a gift shipped domestically that used priority 2day, sent the Friday b4 Xmas, and didn't reach me until 4 days after~!
It's probably still getting unclogged. This week things should start moving along better. (Let's hope!) ???
Peace
jagfug
+1 karma to SS - Thanks. Guess I was getting way too comfy in here. :-[
Whoops! Out of Karma. - I owe you one! 8)
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Erm, you probably want to edit that, brother jagfug... do you really want your location to that level of accuracy going down in history? :)
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heavy bodyload is a negative term. Obviously, speed that makes you super tweaked out is generally gonna have a bit of bodyload (tachycardia mainly and blood pressure increase probable).
To complete the re-iteration: some people use the term "bodyload" to refer to all physical symptoms, others use it to refer to only the negative ones. If someone's enjoying bodyload, (s)he is probably not talking about unpleasant rapid heartbeat and high blood pressure. Common sense and context sensitivity always help.
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Wait. Nobody got their samples from BM?!? Nobody ???
O_O
anyone??
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heavy bodyload is a negative term. Obviously, speed that makes you super tweaked out is generally gonna have a bit of bodyload (tachycardia mainly and blood pressure increase probable).
To complete the re-iteration: some people use the term "bodyload" to refer to all physical symptoms, others use it to refer to only the negative ones. If someone's enjoying bodyload, (s)he is probably not talking about unpleasant rapid heartbeat and high blood pressure. Common sense and context sensitivity always help.
That makes the most sense to me. Thank you. Most likely why I had trouble assuming what it meant. It's a rather grandiose term for "side effects".
Either way, I"m STILL waiting for a Dagobert 2g order, 28 days tomorrow. Had a good week without speed. Now I'm ready to have it!
Also CrystalMethCat, though I don't hold out much hope there. Time will tell. That was a 1g "test" order. Dec was a bad month to "test" anything. Live and learn. If SR is still here next Dec, I will order accordingly ahead of time. Then log on occasionally to see people not understand why packages are taking so long. lol.
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Looking forward to testing CC's product, when I researched a little into amphets last year, it seemed as if his stuff was the 'right' kind for me.
Will be placing an order as soon as it appears on the SR :)
On a side note, do any of you guys take anything to prevent amphet tolerance?
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Looking forward to testing CC's product, when I researched a little into amphets last year, it seemed as if his stuff was the 'right' kind for me.
Will be placing an order as soon as it appears on the SR :)
On a side note, do any of you guys take anything to prevent amphet tolerance?
Magnesium, n-acetyl L-tyrosine, and 5-htp are supplements to look into. I've had all of these things for months and have yet to take them regularly though. I think I've read that l-tyrosine and 5-htp are good for withdrawal and keeping your "happy" brain hormones in check so you're less likely to feel a need to... overdo it when taking amphetamines.
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Tolerance and healthy routines have come up in the thread before, and if I remember correctly, this pretty much emcompases it all. Now, keep in mind that this is the "gold standard" of how to cope and maintain good health with long term amp (ab)use. Very few of us actually manage to maintain (or even attempt) to follow all this regularly, but if you really wanna stay in the best shape you can, this would be what to do.
The Basic Stack.
- ~250mg elemental magnesium at bed. Why: magnesium deficiency is extremely common and known to worsen neurotoxic measures in mouse models. May also help with bruxism (jaw clenching)
- ~1-5mg sublingual melatonin 3 hours before bed. Why: helps regulate sleep cycle, potent antioxidant, several neuroprotective mechanisms.
- Stay hydrated, preferably with high quality fruit juices (such as 100% blueberry) Why: do I really need to explain this?
- Eat a balanced diet rich in dark fruits and vegetables. Why: Why: do I really need to explain this? Make sure you eat period.
- Avoid overheating. Why: Elevated body temperature has been linked to increased neurotoxicity in mouse models
- Coenzyme Q10 at 100mg/day in a softgel or oil based formulation (preferably taken with food). Why: extremely long half life antioxidant, various beneficial effects on mitochondrial function.
- Avoid sleep deprivation. Why: your body needs sleep whether you want to or not.
- A good multivitamin, or at the very least vitamins A,C,E, and D as well as selenium at a significant portion of the RDA value. Malnutrition is a very real concern with amphetamine use,
-Low dose ASA ~81mg/day, anti-inflammatory drugs have shown to reduce neurotoxic measures in several models, also might give your cardiovascular system a break.
- Keep your dose as low as possible.
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though consuming breaks also counteract the tolerance-building, of course.
This might sound easy and wise now, but it´s definitely the best way to have phases that are speedy, followed by phases which are clean,
so regeneration and also non-tolerance-tendencies are guaranteed - naturally and without any extra-costs ;-).
But, of course, feel free for whatever you want and do whatever you like, the mentioned fact is just my own experience with amph.
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So I have 5grams from Evilution on the way, and 1gram from BM. I think I have the BTC for 5gram of CC's I can order tomorrow, or another 5grams from BM. What would you guys go with?
Seems after fees I'd be short for both. CC's is cheaper so I may lean towards it. I'm trying like crazy to get some more coins today so I can order tomorrow before it's all gone.
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Since you're already getting some BM on the way, I would suggest you at least get a few gs of CC. Especially if you've never had his gear before. It's been my experience (and has been echoed by others ITT) that CC's stuff is business getting done in powder form. Clean and smooth. When you wanna party and feel the gear kick you in the guts but also don't mind a bit of bodyload, then BM is there helping you nail that shit down. Those two are like the ying and yang of speed. Can you tell I'm exited about getting this shit? :D
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heavy bodyload is a negative term. Obviously, speed that makes you super tweaked out is generally gonna have a bit of bodyload (tachycardia mainly and blood pressure increase probable).
To complete the re-iteration: some people use the term "bodyload" to refer to all physical symptoms, others use it to refer to only the negative ones. If someone's enjoying bodyload, (s)he is probably not talking about unpleasant rapid heartbeat and high blood pressure. Common sense and context sensitivity always help.
I'm probably getting a bit pedantic now but
To be clear mate the word "load" is not a positive/pleasant thing and I've never seen it used in a positive manner on any forum. To make it clearer, it means body overload. Which I don't think ever refers to any pleasant effects.
If you want to talk about pleasant physical effects then nice body sensation/high is a better descriptive. Bodyload is generally just a negative term, it's not about common sense or context sensitivity. If you would apply common sense to it then body over load as I explain is the descriptive thing. not good.
I think the word you're thinking about frequently is body high or body rush. not bodyload :) fyi
I also waiting for evilution stuff shipped on 28th, thought it would be here today hopefully tomorrow. depositing and ordering some BM and CC now.
I'll order 5g powerade, uh.. maybe a gram of BM if I want to porn out for 24 hours... Definitely getting some CC stuff. Ah, I'm gonna start stock piling bulk ordering I think.. I keep having paranoid dreams that SR will disappear forever and I won't have any good amphet sources for lifeeee. Before SR I hadn't done amphetamine sulfate for like 3-4 years! Once you quit education/college it's so hard to find drug sources lol.
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The point wasn't what the correct term is, but what people mean when using it. Keep in mind most users here are not native speakers. If someone *enjoys* bodyload, common sense should tell you what he actually means. Doesn't matter if the term is used correctly or not.
You are correct ofc, as I said 50-100 pages ago.
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So we got the semantics and vocabulary lesson over ;D
There is but one lingering question.
Who among us has gotten gear, samples, new orders, anything from Boymaster, since his alleged "rebirth" ???
I don't know about you, but I'm waiting for one of you suckers to go first. :-\
Feedback virtually unchanged for past month. I could read back to where I badmouthed him to get him to come out of hiding. But I'm tired of watching the green wheel spin around.
I've had his speed. It was good. Still, all this blind faith, from users more experienced than I, astounds me! Have a look at his FB! Is he going to right the wrongs, and try to get them to change their FB???
Or just skip over that bump in the road? ???
Peace
jagfug
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Negatory on samples.. and yes I'm not ordering from BM for the time being. I'll just have me some wet speed and wait for CC. I've been clean for 16 days now, I think any speed will work rather than non deliveries...
Yes I understand. I don't think bodyload is a common term for native speakers either so everyone probably wonders. I think it was just coined and used online on various drug forums (BL/DF etc).
Apropos, I remember someone labtested powerade's stuff and it was 25% purity with lots of caffeine. He said he got a new batch and was sending 5g of that to the same guy who labtested the old. Any update on this situation? I did try the new batch, while it was wet it only lost 25% weight as opposed to 50% (that most vendors lose). There was definitely still a caffeine cut but it was gentler than all other wet speeds I've tried & least bodyload.
I couldn't find CC listings, I assume they will be up this month sometime? I think I need a key or something!..
Amphetamine is definitely the most psychologically addictive substancec I've used (I'm no opiate user though).
Definitely has a physical withdrawal but it's essentially a non factor. I say that subjectively as I guess nothing compares to benzo WD for me. Sleeping a lot is a good thing :D
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Negatory on samples.. and yes I'm not ordering from BM for the time being. I'll just have me some wet speed and wait for CC. I've been clean for 16 days now, I think any speed will work rather than non deliveries...
Yes I understand. I don't think bodyload is a common term for native speakers either so everyone probably wonders. I think it was just coined and used online on various drug forums (BL/DF etc).
Apropos, I remember someone labtested powerade's stuff and it was 25% purity with lots of caffeine. He said he got a new batch and was sending 5g of that to the same guy who labtested the old. Any update on this situation? I did try the new batch, while it was wet it only lost 25% weight as opposed to 50% (that most vendors lose). There was definitely still a caffeine cut but it was gentler than all other wet speeds I've tried & least bodyload.
I couldn't find CC listings, I assume they will be up this month sometime? I think I need a key or something!..
Amphetamine is definitely the most psychologically addictive substancec I've used (I'm no opiate user though).
Definitely has a physical withdrawal but it's essentially a non factor. I say that subjectively as I guess nothing compares to benzo WD for me. Sleeping a lot is a good thing :D
Benzo withdrawals are the worst, they say. Though my last bad withdraw was from Opiates MSContin 240mg a day, for 4 years. Then the Suboxone, caused me to experience 2 more withdraws from that garbage, which I truly believe caused some CNS damage. - That's for another board, or PM me and I'll tell ya why. I'm about 10 days w/o speed. No biggie. Just the depression, gets me the most.
Yeah, so I'm glad I'm not the only one erring on the side of caution. Maybe I am an experienced SR'r now! ;D "They love me! They really really love me" :o LoL
Well I used to think it was a curse to be outside PE's shipping circle, after that shakeup in their administration. I read on another board, that the guy we all spoke to on the boards, and in PM's, was in a car accident, and that the shipping to US will resume. Something like he knew English the best. Not sure how much of that was conjecture, but it would explain the whole "shut down" - open up. 1st Germany only, then "OK the rest of EU". The last message I got from the smooth talking gentleman, was "There's really no good exchange here for USD" - That made no sense.
Geez! Imagine that? Sketchy speed dealers?!?!? Who ever thought there could be such a thing ???
Still waiting for dagobert >:( Coming up on 30 days. The Monday morning mail is due here in about an hour. Crystalmethcat also overdo- towards the 3 week mark. >:(
Either you wont hear from me again for another 20 hours, out of disgust at an empty mailbox,
or I'll be back as soon as I tear into that package and shove some of that glorious shit up my snot maker !!!! :o
Peace
jagfug
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Anybody ever notice AfterHour ??
His lowest amount is 10g for $71.28 - Has that pinkish hue I was going on about with Evilution , when I dried it out!
Have a look! Good FB 96% rating w/over 300 transactions. Member for 9 mos.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e17b30d590
How did we miss this one??
Peace
jagfug
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dagobert, crystalmethcat, AH, jurgen, ... all noticed. all ignored, no ones that desperate. play lottery or burn your money, both are more fun.
Negatory on samples.. and yes I'm not ordering from BM for the time being. I'll just have me some wet speed and wait for CC.
Happy waiting then... :-[
Taking the plunge and placed a small order with BM, will report once/if arrived ;D imho the only real option currently. CC still has 7hrs to go :P but if we learned anything from this thread then that all ETAs except "now" were incorrect. If he comes through, it's still a 2 week wait.
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Taking the plunge and placed a small order with BM, will report once/if arrived ;D imho the only real option currently. CC still has 7hrs to go :P but if we learned anything from this thread then that all ETAs except "now" were incorrect. If he comes through, it's still a 2 week wait.
I was looking through old feedback and saw CC delivered within 7 days to me.. so no where near 2 weeks :P
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dagobert, crystalmethcat, AH, jurgen, ... all noticed. all ignored, no ones that desperate. play lottery or burn your money, both are more fun.
lol, what a statement. ;D
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I was looking through old feedback and saw CC delivered within 7 days to me.. so no where near 2 weeks :P
I believe my friend, you are on a road more traveled ;D, i.e. you have a much more direct route to ZA then I do. It could very well travel to you and from there to me.
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Absolut professionell, ca. 14 Tage Lieferzeit
2nd feedback from the top: Absolutely professional, about 14 days in transit
I'd say 14days is pretty close to 2 weeks ;D
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I'm experiencing some connectivity problems. It seems to be my ISPs fault. As soon as i can connect i will put up the listings.
Regards
CC
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its like super slow today.. sometimes it helps to close and start tor again, that way you might get a faster tor connection (I think it's pretty much random which proxys you are directed too), which is able to connect to SR before the timeout ::).
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hey guys I've tried methamphetamine for the first time a few days ago (and every day since then) mostly orally and some of it I snorted.
It just seems superior to any amphetamine I have bought on SR in every way
-mild body load if any
-mild sweating
-focus/rush/euphoria more intense
-last longer
why don't more of you guys use it? higher neurotoxicity and greater potential for addiction? (seems like most of the regulars on here are already addicted to amph anyway :)
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hey guys I've tried methamphetamine for the first time a few days ago (and every day since then) mostly orally and some of it I snorted.
It just seems superior to any amphetamine I have bought on SR in every way
-mild body load if any
-mild sweating
-focus/rush/euphoria more intense
-last longer
why don't more of you guys use it? higher neurotoxicity and greater potential for addiction? (seems like most of the regulars on here are already addicted to amph anyway :)
Well, I still have hope for a bright future with a lucrative not time-intensive job, a lovely woman and children. When I realize this is not gonna happen I will give meth, crack, heroin, etc. a try, but until then its on the never-try-list. 8)
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I'm experiencing some connectivity problems. It seems to be my ISPs fault. As soon as i can connect i will put up the listings.
Regards
CC
Restarting Vidalia almost always seems to fix my login issues :)
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hey guys I've tried methamphetamine for the first time a few days ago (and every day since then) mostly orally and some of it I snorted.
It just seems superior to any amphetamine I have bought on SR in every way
-mild body load if any
-mild sweating
-focus/rush/euphoria more intense
-last longer
why don't more of you guys use it? higher neurotoxicity and greater potential for addiction? (seems like most of the regulars on here are already addicted to amph anyway :)
I think it´s also a question of the price, and the fact, that it is even much more harder and therefore more aggressive than "usual" amph.
Imo - just compare it with fruit-juice: The normal one you drink regularly for thirst has 20-30% pureness, and the concentrated and pure one nectar has 100%, (which I rarely buy, but when it´s bought then it´s always mixed up with water) Anyone agrees?
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Alright guys, I just acquired a baggy of Dexedrine spanules. Around 85mg apparently, but I'm unsure on exact amount so I need your help.
Does 1 spanule bead = 1mg?
Is crushing them really necessary to get high? (I will be taking them orally)
Thanks :-)
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Hi guys, is anyone familiar with BoyMaster's shipping services? Is there a difference between Normal and Priority mail to the EU? Does Priority have to be signed for?
Thanks for a great thread everyone, the reviews are much appreciated and especially the regular contributors taking time to post important advice making recreational use much safer and less hassle. Karma to the entertainers for the laughs. I don't know how to give +1 or even if I can but I'm feeling it big time for you all :-*
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Just start with one stimulant, oh cautious one. . If that doesn't get your rocks off try another and another, till you get where you want to be. Being dexedrine, the "wine cooler" of stimulants, I don't think you're in any danger.
Dexedrine is mellower than caffeine for this speed freak. But I know, you gotta worry about body load , at the gym, and make sure you take your amino acids, and Vitamin C twice a day.
Maybe you need a visit with Mama to get it right.
The pussification of the world male ( I used to just think it was the American male, but the far reaching feminazii's never ceases to amaze me.)
You've been beaten back by feminism.
Grow some ballls, and do what comes naturally to you.
Take a vacation from social media, and the internet in general.
That's just a personal feeling and not any general consensus.
Do what you want, but entertain my advice, if but for one fleeting moment.
Peace
jagfug.
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Hi guys, is anyone familiar with BoyMaster's shipping services? Is there a difference between Normal and Priority mail to the EU? Does Priority have to be signed for?
Thanks for a great thread everyone, the reviews are much appreciated and especially the regular contributors taking time to post important advice making recreational use much safer and less hassle. Karma to the entertainers for the laughs. I don't know how to give +1 or even if I can but I'm feeling it big time for you all :-*
We're familiar with the OLD Boymaster. No one has any idea of the trustworthiness of this "born again" Boymaster. If someone can alleviate my fears, please step up to the podium.
This guy has no samples delivered or vouched for. Has shitty feedback for the past 3 months. Shows no willingness to correct the mistakes of whatever, no explanation fuck overs that happened to recent purchase.
And I don't care if BM himself comes on and forbids me an order. It was just good speed. You can't be all that desperate. Or can you?
Who knows whose running that account?? Just like Powerade, they sell the vendor account like a PayPal account.There is no "HE" or "HIM" or HER or THEM
No way to know what fucked up association gets us our drugs., but one thing is for certain. Without us, there would be no them. So you best treat us right Vendors. We are your worst nightmare.
That's Queens NY talking. You got something better??? Bring it!!!
jagfug
= wide open......give me your best
( For the rest of you, nothing will come of this, because they really don't give a shit. You might as well be dealing with niggers in an alley way in NYC. )
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hey jagfug, try to relax a little bit. 8)
nobody is trying to kill you man
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Mhh yeah wouldn't recommend buying from BM until you see some feedback :'(. Seems like none of the samples he wanted to send out on Christmas have arrived yet, neither any of the regular orders (maybe 1), which are online for a week as well. Mustn't be his fault though, Spain is deep into depression, maybe post office guys check every letter for valuables^^, or simply feds.. personally not ordering anything from SR to the address I used to use..
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Mhh yeah wouldn't recommend buying from BM until you see some feedback :'(. Seems like none of the samples he wanted to send out on Christmas have arrived yet, neither any of the regular orders (maybe 1), which are online for a week as well. Mustn't be his fault though, Spain is deep into depression, maybe post office guys check every letter for valuables^^, or simply feds.. personally not ordering anything from SR to the address I used to use..
The samples were sent by ordinary mail and only 6 business days ago, I think that they will show up before the weekend.
The rest of the orders have been shipped the past Friday, with two days of delay so I expect the first orders arriving on this Friday.
Take it easy, everything will work as fine as always.
Cheers
BM
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@jagfuq
Chill dude
@gsharpp
Methamphetamine is more addictive and neurotoxic.
While in small doses meth acts just like amphetamine, and is even prescribed for ADHD (desoxyn)
it also has a greater potential for abuse.
Caffeine is legal because it's really hard to overdo it with caffeine. You don't get greater and greater effects the more coffee you take, there is a sweet spot. With amphetamine you can push the limits a little farther, but too much speed also causes headaches. With meth, you can easily get to a level of euphoria and tweakiness that is beyond safe. When you're on a speed binge at a certain point you get headaches and bodyload and such, with meth you can get much farther without those problems, and experience levels of euphoria impossible on speed. This makes it not only more addictive but more harmful to dopamine receptors and such.
Sort of like the gradient with opiates where from least addictive to most addictive it goes like: codeine, vicodin, oxycontin, IV morphine, IV heroin.
Heroin has the most powerful effects, so you might say, "why don't people buy heroin instead of pharm pills, considering it's much cheaper for the same effect?" same argument as with meth vs amphetamine. You can still get addicted to vicodin, it's just not as hard to break or as easy to OD as with heroin.
Just my 2 cents.
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Hmmmm BM, don't mean to sound impatient but you made two posts since my query, just want to make sure I don't have to sign for anything. Will it mess with your stealth if you divulge? If so then no problem.
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@jagfuq
Chill dude
@gsharpp
Methamphetamine is more addictive and neurotoxic.
While in small doses meth acts just like amphetamine, and is even prescribed for ADHD (desoxyn)
it also has a greater potential for abuse.
Caffeine is legal because it's really hard to overdo it with caffeine. You don't get greater and greater effects the more coffee you take, there is a sweet spot. With amphetamine you can push the limits a little farther, but too much speed also causes headaches. With meth, you can easily get to a level of euphoria and tweakiness that is beyond safe. When you're on a speed binge at a certain point you get headaches and bodyload and such, with meth you can get much farther without those problems, and experience levels of euphoria impossible on speed. This makes it not only more addictive but more harmful to dopamine receptors and such.
Sort of like the gradient with opiates where from least addictive to most addictive it goes like: codeine, vicodin, oxycontin, IV morphine, IV heroin.
Heroin has the most powerful effects, so you might say, "why don't people buy heroin instead of pharm pills, considering it's much cheaper for the same effect?" same argument as with meth vs amphetamine. You can still get addicted to vicodin, it's just not as hard to break or as easy to OD as with heroin.
Just my 2 cents.
Interestingly enough, I tend to agree. I say "interestingly enough," because I've never really heard this stated anywhere. It's been my experience though, in a nutshell; I mean it's not precisely how it's been for me, but the basic premise is true. If you don't have a problem with speed though, I don't see why you'd have a problem with orally dosed meth.
On another note... jagfug, I like you when you aren't drinking man. But damn, you get awfully nasty when you're drunk. Don't get me wrong, I used to drink too much and get mean one out of every four times myself (I don't drink anymore, actually); still, that doesn't really change the facts.
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On another note... jagfug, I like you when you aren't drinking man. But damn, you get awfully nasty when you're drunk. Don't get me wrong, I used to drink too much and get mean one out of every four times myself (I don't drink anymore, actually); still, that doesn't really change the facts.
Agreed. I wish I could send you a gram or two of BM's stuff to calm your nerves. Well and maybe some MDMA too. Having lived a fair amount in foreign (non-US) countries I have learned many people do not get the tough love dry humor. I hear what your saying, just don't agree.
Order from BM, you will be fine ;). The reward greatly outweighs the risk :P. Unless BM gave away his PGP keys too, it is still the same old BM I have grown to lov :'(e.
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So last month Eric Cartman said that he'd send out some samples of his amphetamine and I volunteered to test it. 18 days after he told me he shipped (and on New Year's eve) I received a package from him.
In terms of packaging - it got to me looking like your average piece of business mail - which is good. It was also double bagged, stealthed and then vac sealed, which is also good. However, after 18 days in the mail the permeable layer of vac seal material leaked and as soon as I opened the envelope you could smell it. Shipping would be great in the EU - outside of the EU I'd recommend either a double vac seal or a mylar bag to help contain the smell.
This was also probably the largest sample I've ever received. After 18 days of travel most of the liquid had leaked out and the paste was mostly dry, to the consistency of a really thick putty. Total weight of the product was just over 8 grams. Which means he probably sent me a 10 gram sample, which was really unexpected and totally cool of him.
Marquis test came back orange-brown, which means it contained amphetamine. No mandelin test available. Product is a light pink and smells very strongly, Kind of hard to pin it down, somewhat sweet and floral. Dried about a gram on a plate for a day then gave a 40 mg sample to my younger brother (who was going clubbing that night) and snorted about 80 mgs for myself.
My brother, who's used to taking adderall for his ADHD, loved it. Gave him a bit of euphoria, energy to dance most of the night, he took it orally around 9 PM and could still feel it coursing through him at around 7 PM. Asked me to give him more later, which I will.
For me, 80 mg was too much. I was expecting this to be maybe 50% amphetamine, but it's a lot stronger than that. 80 mgs had me going initially with a bit of euphoria and a nice focused drive, which I used to start cleaning my house. After a while though, I got overwhelmed with dizziness and nausea which normally happens when I take too much. Next time, I'll probably stick to about 40-50 mgs of it, and that should put me in a good place. And considering I have a about 6 grams left in the sample, at that rate that should last me quite a bit.
Nothing but positives when it comes to Eric Cartman. If you're looking for good speed in the EU, give him a shot.
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hey guys I've tried methamphetamine for the first time a few days ago (and every day since then) mostly orally and some of it I snorted.
It just seems superior to any amphetamine I have bought on SR in every way
-mild body load if any
-mild sweating
-focus/rush/euphoria more intense
-last longer
why don't more of you guys use it? higher neurotoxicity and greater potential for addiction? (seems like most of the regulars on here are already addicted to amph anyway :)
HEY METH BOY - - - FUCK OFF!!!
THIS IS THE AMPHETAMINE/ SPEED THREAD.!!!!!!!!!!!
WE WANT NOTHINGTO DO WITH YOU!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE THE CRACK TO OUR COCAINE.
OKAY??? YOU GET IT??????????????????
No meth vendors or buyers welcome here. Try to organize your brain damaged souls, and come up with your own thread!!
So now "FUCK OFF" like the good little niggers that you are.
You are either just being an ass/troll or you're just ignorant.
In Sweden meth isn't widespread, the only amphetamine abuse that exists is with standard Amp. Meth has simply been the drug of misuse in the US since it boomed because of some cheap synthesis pathways from pseudoephedrine. Sure, in higher dosages it's more neurotoxic and has a greater potential for abuse, but it is cleaner and likely more effective in therapeutic doses.
If you want a good stimulant, that isn't neurotoxic and doesn't have the annoying serotonergic side that amp has, try Methylphenidate. Concerta is a great XR pill that lasts 12hrs. It's expensive, but IMO really worth it if one only has one of those need-to-get-shit-done days every other week.
As it is so expensive, I recently went back here to check the status of BoyMaster, I've bought 5g of his previous batch that I'm greatly satisfied with and have a lot left of but I'd like a purer product, and I remember him telling there would be one. I'm awaiting further updates to see how peoples deals with him goes. Keep me updated.
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I'm experiencing some connectivity problems. It seems to be my ISPs fault. As soon as i can connect i will put up the listings.
Regards
CC
Restarting Vidalia almost always seems to fix my login issues :)
You my friend are again on a road more traveled ;D I think your close proximity to some major IX (combined they're the fastest in the world) helps your connectivity slightly :P
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hey guys I've tried methamphetamine for the first time a few days ago (and every day since then) mostly orally and some of it I snorted.
It just seems superior to any amphetamine I have bought on SR in every way
-mild body load if any
-mild sweating
-focus/rush/euphoria more intense
-last longer
why don't more of you guys use it? higher neurotoxicity and greater potential for addiction? (seems like most of the regulars on here are already addicted to amph anyway :)
Sorry gsharpp - I was drunk, you guys DO know me. Took 1 too many Valium. and drank. Bad combo as you all know. At least that came in the mail today. So I still hold out hope for the dagobert and the crystalmethcat orderr
I know why the meth statement got me angry. I was associating it with someone who occasionally spams this thread promoting meth sales.
Confession: I would try meth in a heartbeat, just to see how it feels. I'm probably more afraid I'd love it. I mean it's even prescribed to children in the US by the brand name Desoxyn
Sorry for the tirade. I'm depressed beacause another day without speed. I thought SR could replace going and finding a new shrink after mine retired. Guess I should find a new one.
And Boymaster, you can't blame be for being cautious. That's the main reason we're on here. Look at the situation from a buyers standpoint.
All apologies here, for my bitchiness.
Just another member of this dysfunctional family I guess.
I love you all ! :)
Peace
jagfug
PS Trust is earned, and when broken, is even harder to earn back. We all want a good amph dealer. That's the whole idea.
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Hi guys, is anyone familiar with BoyMaster's shipping services? Is there a difference between Normal and Priority mail to the EU? Does Priority have to be signed for?
yes, priority is faster. It's usually well worth the extra € if you are in EU and it's not domestic and the country shipped from doesn't have a whacky postal service.
registered = signed for. priority alone = not signed for.
This is what a PRIORITY letter has to look for fastest transport: http://i.imgur.com/Jdnfj.jpg (courtesy of Deutsche Post)
The blue sticker is mandatory, it tells the other countries that the letter is priority. They don't check the stamps if you paid enough in your country. They don't give a fuck. This sticker missing = not sent priority (except maybe in the country of origin). If all of this layout is kept intact, the letter will be machine-readable. Meaning it will go through sorting machines very fast and requires as little human interaction as possible.
Within the core of EU (Germany and all it's neighbors + HU, IT, maybe Scandinavia) such letters are delivered very quickly (thanks to Germany I guess). Usually if shipped out on (business) day1 it will be received on (business) day3.
This is first hand information, confirmed by mailmen, po workers, online research and plain testing.
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Looks like we have great times ahead of us.
I'm experiencing some connectivity problems. It seems to be my ISPs fault. As soon as i can connect i will put up the listings.
Route your way around the problems then. as a vendor you should do this anyway for added security.
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Hi Speed Crew, I was away a few days.
EDIT:
Nevermind just saw now the post updates :D
Waiting for CC listening to come back then, together with BM gears already on the way home.
Thanks.
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Mhh yeah wouldn't recommend buying from BM until you see some feedback :'(. Seems like none of the samples he wanted to send out on Christmas have arrived yet, neither any of the regular orders (maybe 1), which are online for a week as well. Mustn't be his fault though, Spain is deep into depression, maybe post office guys check every letter for valuables^^, or simply feds.. personally not ordering anything from SR to the address I used to use..
The samples were sent by ordinary mail and only 6 business days ago, I think that they will show up before the weekend.
The rest of the orders have been shipped the past Friday, with two days of delay so I expect the first orders arriving on this Friday.
Take it easy, everything will work as fine as always.
Cheers
BM
That's nice - love you and your gear. Maybe you should post about shipment times more regularly, not to precisely of course, to avoid such talk. Haven't had speed since Christmas, so I am kinda itchy ;D. Are you actually still planning on selling dextro?
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If the mail cooperates it's gonna be a speedy weekend for me, I'm awaiting 10g Powerade, 5g Evilution, 5g Amsterdope and 2g Boymaster. I don't really need that much but I decided to build a nice stash just in case World War 3 or Zombie Apocalyps is happening or SR down.
Any other reliable vendors I'm missing in my stashbox? (preferred EU based)
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So last month Eric Cartman said that he'd send out some samples of his amphetamine and I volunteered to test it. 18 days after he told me he shipped (and on New Year's eve) I received a package from him.
In terms of packaging - it got to me looking like your average piece of business mail - which is good. It was also double bagged, stealthed and then vac sealed, which is also good. However, after 18 days in the mail the permeable layer of vac seal material leaked and as soon as I opened the envelope you could smell it. Shipping would be great in the EU - outside of the EU I'd recommend either a double vac seal or a mylar bag to help contain the smell.
Nothing but positives when it comes to Eric Cartman. If you're looking for good speed in the EU, give him a shot.
Good to hear that heseems to be legit. Ive ordered from Cartman international. Listed as in the post a couple of days ago. He's gone escrow which is good but your post on stealth doesnt give me much confidence about it getting through. Its a bit of a risk from my side too because I am trying to build my stats as pretty new. Still, hopeful it will come through and also hopeful he will honour: 'The first 10 buyers will get double the amount they order.(except kg orders)' Will repost on this thread on outcome.
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any news on CC? Will he have 1g listing?
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Hi guys, is anyone familiar with BoyMaster's shipping services? Is there a difference between Normal and Priority mail to the EU? Does Priority have to be signed for?
yes, priority is faster. It's usually well worth the extra € if you are in EU and it's not domestic and the country shipped from doesn't have a whacky postal service.
registered = signed for. priority alone = not signed for.
This is what a PRIORITY letter has to look for fastest transport: http://i.imgur.com/Jdnfj.jpg (courtesy of Deutsche Post)
The blue sticker is mandatory, it tells the other countries that the letter is priority. They don't check the stamps if you paid enough in your country. They don't give a fuck. This sticker missing = not sent priority (except maybe in the country of origin). If all of this layout is kept intact, the letter will be machine-readable. Meaning it will go through sorting machines very fast and requires as little human interaction as possible.
Within the core of EU (Germany and all it's neighbors + HU, IT, maybe Scandinavia) such letters are delivered very quickly (thanks to Germany I guess). Usually if shipped out on (business) day1 it will be received on (business) day3.
This is first hand information, confirmed by mailmen, po workers, online research and plain testing.
Thanks for that info. I've had many similar mailings both from SR, and a few friends I have on your side of the pond.
Man I'm in such a better mood. I took some Caffeine using this Herbalife Tea Concentrate powder. Really lifted my mood.
Even if the mail contains no speed today, I'm not drinking. :-[ I don't think I have to explain that decision :-[
Today feels like a good day (so far). Going to keep the old "chin up" as they say.
Peace
jagfug
PS. Herbalife is a diet program. Not sure if you have it in EU. Just wanted to clarify that.
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Mustn't be his fault though, Spain is deep into depression, maybe post office guys check every letter for valuables^^, or simply feds.. personally not ordering anything from SR to the address I used to use..
Spain is going through rough times, so postal workers check for valuables and Feds do overtime? Doesn't make sense to me, if both are run by government both will work less. Postal employees will probably steal valuable items. Heck, I would.
I'm in EU as well and I can confirm everything Muslix said regarding shipping. There are no more delays from Christmas, everything back to normal. I think Spain has one of those "whacky postal services" Muslix referred to.
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Mustn't be his fault though, Spain is deep into depression, maybe post office guys check every letter for valuables^^, or simply feds.. personally not ordering anything from SR to the address I used to use..
Spain is going through rough times, so postal workers check for valuables and Feds do overtime? Doesn't make sense to me, if both are run by government both will work less. Postal employees will probably steal valuable items. Heck, I would.
I'm in EU as well and I can confirm everything Muslix said regarding shipping. There are no more delays from Christmas, everything back to normal. I think Spain has one of those "whacky postal services" Muslix referred to.
Was just an idea.. German mail is actually privatized since 1995, like pretty much everything in Germany :-X.
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You are either just being an ass/troll or you're just ignorant.
In Sweden meth isn't widespread, the only amphetamine abuse that exists is with standard Amp. Meth has simply been the drug of misuse in the US since it boomed because of some cheap synthesis pathways from pseudoephedrine. Sure, in higher dosages it's more neurotoxic and has a greater potential for abuse, but it is cleaner and likely more effective in therapeutic doses.
If you want a good stimulant, that isn't neurotoxic and doesn't have the annoying serotonergic side that amp has, try Methylphenidate. Concerta is a great XR pill that lasts 12hrs. It's expensive, but IMO really worth it if one only has one of those need-to-get-shit-done days every other week.
As it is so expensive, I recently went back here to check the status of BoyMaster, I've bought 5g of his previous batch that I'm greatly satisfied with and have a lot left of but I'd like a purer product, and I remember him telling there would be one. I'm awaiting further updates to see how peoples deals with him goes. Keep me updated.
Might be slightly off topic but I feel I have to correct you about the meth in sweden. Crystal Meth isn't as common as in the states and there's a tradition of "standard amp" use in sweden but there have been lots of meth from poland and balticum the last decade. Here's some stats of meth seizures up to 2009: http://www.svt.se/nyheter/sverige/efter-tio-ars-okning-nu-avtar-trenden-mindre-metamfetamin-i-sverige . Aftonbladet also have a article about it where they mention a synthesis based on something called "BMK" instead of pseudoeph which might be why the meth here seem quite dirty compared to the clean crystals in the states. Here http://citcan.constructit.se/sv/Tidskriften-AoN/Pa-aterbesok-i-Methland--temanummer-om-metamfetamin/Mer-metamfetamin-i-Sverige/ they say out of the 12 ppl in sthlm they tested who thaught they had used regular amp also were positive on meth. You can also read many stories on flashback forum where ppl test positive for both amp and meth because dealers make big profit in adding 5-10% meth to a 5-20% street amp blend (probably calling it 50% amp or something like that). I also believe theres many users who are used to alittle meth in their speed so theyd get quite disappointed if they get clean amp without the meth rush. Also Helsinki have become quite a meth capitol. Lets just hope that dirty trend doesn't reach SR. They'd prob wouldnt last long anyways because of the wonderful ppl here sharing their experiences with rating, reviewing and bringing to test centers.
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There's a bit of a difference though if users take meth because dealers cut it with (probably dl-)meth and the intended use of (d-)meth. More dealers using meth to bathtub-mix their paste doesn't mean it's demand is higher.
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PS. Herbalife is a diet program. Not sure if you have it in EU. Just wanted to clarify that.
good decision, as I can confirm that "Herbalife" has really good products for your health.
In EU you can import it without any problems, but I think prices could be a little bit less,
as there are alternative products which are equally to theirs.
Wishin´ you all the best, jagfug!
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Alright guys, I just acquired a baggy of Dexedrine spanules. Around 85mg apparently, but I'm unsure on exact amount so I need your help.
Does 1 spanule bead = 1mg?
Is crushing them really necessary to get high? (I will be taking them orally)
Thanks :-)
One bead equals a lot less than 1mg. Is it a baggy of Dexedrine pills that you have, or is it a baggy of just the beads?
I hope it's the actual pills that you were sold, although it doesn't sound likely, since they'd have to be 5mg pills for you to end up with a total of 85mg, & I'd be shocked if 5mg Dexedrine Spansules actually exist. However, if you do in fact have actual pills, then everything's really easy. You can just swallow the capsules with the beads still inside; crushing up those beads just isn't worth it unless you're set on snorting them, which you're obviously not. I'd definitely recommend starting with a dosage of 20mg (UNLESS you do crush the beads, in which case you'd want to take 10mg instead). Assuming nobody fucked with the pills, you definitely shouldn't need more than that. & if you're aiming to use the pills for something like studying -- as opposed to getting high -- you might want to start with 15mg instead & see if that works well enough for you.
If you only have the beads, then your situation is much more complicated, since you don't really have much of an idea as to what dosage you'll be taking when you take it. If I were you, I'd first do some research with google or whatever to see if you can try & find a way to determine the dosage you're taking with only the beads. If that doesn't get you anywhere, you could either crush up the beads & keep taking conservative amounts every 20-30 minutes or so, but considering Dexedrine only lasts a couple of hours when the beads are crushed (3.5 hours, approx) taking things that slowly could end up just being a waste. Your other option would be to just take the guy at his word of there being about 85mg & take what looks like about one fifth of the beads (or one tenth, if crushed).
By the way, you might want to have a conversation with the guy who gave you that shit. There's absolutely no reason for somebody to take the time to empty the beads out of the capsules unless they're planning on ripping you off by charging you for more than they're giving you.
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I think I'm having yet another Déjà vu ;D
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I've ordered 1g of DopeDistributor his dried speed. It was marked in transit today and I will be sure to let you guys know what it's like. I sure hope that it's decent, but anyway I'm already happy that it comes dried because then you actually receive 1 gram
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Anyone experienced delays receiving from Evilution in EU?
Shipped on 28th, still not gotten here.. I mean, even if it was shipped on the 2nd of Jan when postal service resumed it should've been here today (Wednesday ship from NL/DE usually arrives on Mondays/tuesdays). Damnitttttttttttttttttttttt. have to wait all the way to Monday... had a little shopping spree buying ecsstasy hash n diff speeds... but I need stuffsss for weekend gah!
Does anyone else have dreams about amphetamine when they haven't used for a while? every night when I'm anticipating a delivery I dream that I'm snortin lines or bombing stuff and getting spun. Then I wake up, run to check if there's any mail.. when there's not I mope around the house or go online and order more shit excessively lol. Oh well, I'm gonna have a fun & productive second half of January!!!
Clean and bored for 18 days, benzos 11.
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Happy Wednesday: today 2 orders arrived (Evilution and Amsterdope). Hopefully tomorrow or friday BoyMaster stuff.
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Happy Wednesday: today 2 orders arrived (Evilution and Amsterdope). Hopefully tomorrow or friday BoyMaster stuff.
When was your Evilution stuff shipped?
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hey guys I've tried methamphetamine for the first time a few days ago (and every day since then) mostly orally and some of it I snorted.
It just seems superior to any amphetamine I have bought on SR in every way
-mild body load if any
-mild sweating
-focus/rush/euphoria more intense
-last longer
why don't more of you guys use it? higher neurotoxicity and greater potential for addiction? (seems like most of the regulars on here are already addicted to amph anyway :)
I've found methamphetamine to be far superior as a recreational drug, but with daily or near-daily use its' side effects are more pronounced than those of plain old amphetamine.
Also, since meth is more fun, I tend to overdo it more often than with amphetamine. Since I'm usually not trying to get high (in the off-my-tits sense of the word) it's actually a good thing for me that amphetamine is less recreational.
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CC is up.
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Ordered 2g of CC stuff, thrilled to see what all the fuzz is a bout :D
Happy Wednesday: today 2 orders arrived (Evilution and Amsterdope). Hopefully tomorrow or friday BoyMaster stuff.
When was your Evilution stuff shipped?
Monday 7 january (domestic)
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cc be back indeed. only see 5g listing, but have no coins here anyway. now all the guys hyping it can finally try it haha ;D SCNR just wait til caffeine_me sees it ;D
man this year starts weird, I can't decide what to buy, too much wants. when did that ever happen?
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Just lowerd the price of my speed listing and the quality 50%
Speed 50 Grams of Amphetamine Paste (Speed) $575.00 Worldwide Netherlands
Speed 30 Grams of Amphetamine Paste (Speed) $360.00 Worldwide Netherlands
Speed 10 Grams of Amphetamine Paste (Speed) $128.00 Worldwide Netherlands
Speed 5g Amphetamine Paste (Speed) $65.00 Worldwide Netherlands
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/0959809f11
highest price 13usd a gram
lowest price 11.50usd a gram
regards,mercury31
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25g of speed (only CC and BM of courseand plenty of benzos/ambien on the way to sustain sleep (anyone else notice how well ambien puts you to actual sleep compared to benzos in general, esp on amph?? love that). Looks like a bright future ahead!!
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Transferring coins for 5g of CC's delightful phet :D
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omg omg omg CC!!!
I've just spammed him with a couple of orders :D all the ppl i knew just flooded me with requests of this GOD's gear ;)
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Amazing. I put a 5g listing in my cart, notice that there are 16 available, get up and go shower while I wait for the coin transaction to post to my account... come back not completely dry yet, and there are 12 5g listings available. I really hope we aren't killing your spirit to vend here, CC.
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25g of speed (only CC and BM of courseand plenty of benzos/ambien on the way to sustain sleep (anyone else notice how well ambien puts you to actual sleep compared to benzos in general, esp on amph?? love that). Looks like a bright future ahead!!
ambien = zolpidem = benzo-derivate with very short half-life. how long do you sleep on how much ambien?
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Amazing. I put a 5g listing in my cart, notice that there are 16 available, get up and go shower while I wait for the coin transaction to post to my account... come back not completely dry yet, and there are 12 5g listings available. I really hope we aren't killing your spirit to vend here, CC.
Probably started at 20, now it's 11, 50g in an hour. not too bad. and the americans are yet to come. this might not last very long ;D
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CC Listings up
How safe is it to order from Africa?
Meh, yesterday i was impatience and ordered from BM and and some domestic "wet vendors".
Are these BM samples arrived meanwhile?
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Amazing. I put a 5g listing in my cart, notice that there are 16 available, get up and go shower while I wait for the coin transaction to post to my account... come back not completely dry yet, and there are 12 5g listings available. I really hope we aren't killing your spirit to vend here, CC.
Probably started at 20, now it's 11, 50g in an hour. not too bad. and the americans are yet to come. this might not last very long ;D
Lol I miscalculated and now I'm waiting for 1BTC to transfer.... ::)
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CC Listings up
How safe is it to order from Africa?
safe enough for these amounts and your location.
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CC Listings up
How safe is it to order from Africa?
Meh, yesterday i was impatience and ordered from BM and and some domestic "wet vendors".
Are these BM samples arrived meanwhile?
Very safe. I have ordered multiple times from SA, not just CC, and always received the package so far, maybe 10 packages so far. There seems to not be much screening to the US from SA.
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25g of speed (only CC and BM of courseand plenty of benzos/ambien on the way to sustain sleep (anyone else notice how well ambien puts you to actual sleep compared to benzos in general, esp on amph?? love that). Looks like a bright future ahead!!
ambien = zolpidem = benzo-derivate with very short half-life. how long do you sleep on how much ambien?
I get a full 7-8 hours sleep off 10-20 mg (If I have used any recently I might take 20mg). When I awake I feel much more refreshed when I wakeup than from alprazolam, for example, which makes me feel so groggy.
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I got 10g of BM's stuff on the way. Now I'm considering to order 2g of CC's additionally. Is it worth to try both, as they are different and to take the risk to order from SA to GER? Is CC's more on the dextro side? Advises are much appreciated :)
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I got 10g of BM's stuff on the way. Now I'm considering to order 2g of CC's additionally. Is it worth to try both, as they are different and to take the risk to order from SA to GER? Is CC's more on the dextro side? Advises are much appreciated :)
People seemed to experience more physical effects from BM's last batch than the one from CC, but whether that was due to differences in levo-dextro ratio or something else, even placebo, is not entirely clear. Assuming it wasn't placebo it's impossible to say if that is still the case with their new batches since nobody on here has tried either (as far as I know)
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I got 10g of BM's stuff on the way. Now I'm considering to order 2g of CC's additionally. Is it worth to try both, as they are different and to take the risk to order from SA to GER? Is CC's more on the dextro side? Advises are much appreciated :)
People seemed to experience more physical effects from BM's last batch than the one from CC, but whether that was due to differences in levo-dextro ratio or something else, even placebo, is not entirely clear. Assuming it wasn't placebo it's impossible to say if that is still the case with their new batches since nobody on here has tried either (as far as I know)
thanks valentine!
Am I the only one who's a bit nervous about that there are no shows of BM's stuff until now? Please don't feel offended BM, I'm just wondering :)
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Perhaps it is so strong that each recipient immediately got a heart attack.
(;; °-°)
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Perhaps it is so strong that each recipient immediately got a heart attack.
(;; °-°)
Sounds good to me, if it's true. Can't await it anymore :)
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@roqii
No offense...we are worried too...the postal service is usually slow but this time it's exceeding all records.
Damn, I thought the delays due to Xmas are over now. So shipping time > 10 days within the EU?
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Nope, the orders have been shipped on Friday, it's 4 days for the moment.
The samples maybe have been messed up or something due to christmas...I really don't know whats happening
Edit: A tracked order just arrived to it's destination country. They're near!
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Okay, I think I misunderstood you or somebody else, that the samples were sent between Xmas and NYE, but didn't show up until now.
I mean it's just three business days, maybe delayed but not that much though. Priority mail should make it in the next two days hopefully :)
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Damn, I thought the delays due to Xmas are over now. So shipping time > 10 days within the EU?
Well, southern EU at the moment is mostly fucked up. (Sorry folks, i never voted for Merkel.)
The bitch was recently chosen as world's #1 politician....
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I get a full 7-8 hours sleep off 10-20 mg (If I have used any recently I might take 20mg). When I awake I feel much more refreshed when I wakeup than from alprazolam, for example, which makes me feel so groggy.
This is because of the short half life of ambien/zolpidem
The half lives of diazepam and alprazolam are much longer (~10 hrs) so when you wake up you still have some in your system
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Damn, I thought the delays due to Xmas are over now. So shipping time > 10 days within the EU?
Well, southern EU at the moment is mostly fucked up. (Sorry folks, i never voted for Merkel.)
im also ger and the inside eu shipping times are really strange. i had a packet from sweden that took around 30(!) days (that was also over xmas and nye and we had to extend the auto-finalize), a packet from uk that took arround 16, a packet from hungary that took only 3 days and a packet from chechz that also only took 3 days. (all orders during this and the last month). so the range/difference is totally confusing.
i also ordered from boymaster last friday and didnt get it yet(wednesday). so i dont check my mail each day but when i got it and there are no ones who have received i will write it (i guess i check my mail saturday again).
edit: to also write sth on thread topic, the order i ordered and received this week (2 days domestic) from powerade was much less wet like the one around 3 weeks ago (and so also did smell less when opening and drying etc). it is more like chewing gum and dried over night really fast (leaving the bag open and the part i did on a paper yesterday and crushed was ready to use). its dried definitely more than what i got first time and i think it feels stronger (but i cant say that for sure because last time i had drunk some alcohol and now im still sober). i can only compare to his first order because i have not tried any different speed vendor yet and to that one its an improvement.
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Nope, the orders have been shipped on Friday, it's 4 days for the moment.
The samples maybe have been messed up or something due to christmas...I really don't know whats happening
Edit: A tracked order just arrived to it's destination country. They're near!
I too have a feeling the EU ones are about to arrive today or tomorrow. Keeping fingers crossed.
On a side note: I've got a few question about this so called "pure" stuff from BM and CC.
Me being still a speed n00b I haven't tried 73% speed yet (at least not that I know of), so what is the difference in feeling between cut stuff and pure stuff? Or does it only matter for dosing purposes?
And about that dosing, at this moment I'm used to 250mg average quality speed spread out over 12-16hrs, using small half-toothpick sized lines every few hours or so. This gives me a nice buzz/boost through the day or night whenever I need it.
For recreational purposes I use the same amount but in a shorter time thus bigger lines.
Btw: I finally purchased a 0,001 scale so my doses are perfect now. It's just something I like, not really needed, gives me some sort of peace of mind for some reason. Also this avoids the New Years eve fiasco in the future which fucked me up a bit too much for my likings in -negative- body load terms.
Anyway, my question is how to dose pure stuff like BM's or CC's when you keep what I wrote right up here in mind?
Too long (like really??) didn't read version:
1. Is there a difference in high from pure or cut stuff?
2. What's a good dose for a beginner, but not total beginner, but I'd rather keep it as safe as possible when using strong amph.
Thanks in advance.
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I get a full 7-8 hours sleep off 10-20 mg (If I have used any recently I might take 20mg). When I awake I feel much more refreshed when I wakeup than from alprazolam, for example, which makes me feel so groggy.
This is because of the short half life of ambien/zolpidem
The half lives of diazepam and alprazolam are much longer (~10 hrs) so when you wake up you still have some in your system
I thought ambien also caused the body to get REM sleep, or am I mistaken? I thought it was somehow better for sleep than any benzo?
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Nope, the orders have been shipped on Friday, it's 4 days for the moment.
The samples maybe have been messed up or something due to christmas...I really don't know whats happening
Edit: A tracked order just arrived to it's destination country. They're near!
I too have a feeling the EU ones are about to arrive today or tomorrow. Keeping fingers crossed.
On a side note: I've got a few question about this so called "pure" stuff from BM and CC.
Me being still a speed n00b I haven't tried 73% speed yet (at least not that I know of), so what is the difference in feeling between cut stuff and pure stuff? Or does it only matter for dosing purposes?
And about that dosing, at this moment I'm used to 250mg average quality speed spread out over 12-16hrs, using small half-toothpick sized lines every few hours or so. This gives me a nice buzz/boost through the day or night whenever I need it.
For recreational purposes I use the same amount but in a shorter time thus bigger lines.
Btw: I finally purchased a 0,001 scale so my doses are perfect now. It's just something I like, not really needed, gives me some sort of peace of mind for some reason. Also this avoids the New Years eve fiasco in the future which fucked me up a bit too much for my likings in -negative- body load terms.
Anyway, my question is how to dose pure stuff like BM's or CC's when you keep what I wrote right up here in mind?
Too long (like really??) didn't read version:
1. Is there a difference in high from pure or cut stuff?
2. What's a good dose for a beginner, but not total beginner, but I'd rather keep it as safe as possible when using strong amph.
Thanks in advance.
Your question is impossible to answer, quite frankly. I've used and abused (both) amphetamines for years and years, and even with "guaranteed" American pharmaceuticals they can feel different from day to day or dose to dose. I really don't understand why but have always searched for the likely cause, and my best answer at this point is the unsatisfying "biorhythms." The human body and brain are incredibly complex and nobody really knows exactly how we work -- keep in mind all the "facts" about why a drug makes us feel something aren't really facts, they're just the currently believed theories held by those in the field. Can't really prove any of it until we actually understand how our brains cause our subjective sensations, ya know.
I have an exceedingly high tolerance to amphetamines because I hate breaks and take them as rarely as I possibly can (read: I'm fucking retarded), and I accidentally took too much of Boymaster's first batch my first dose (I didn't have a "bad" time, per se, but I felt very uncomfortably jittery and didn't mean to take as much as I did). I dose orally though, so your mileage may vary, but I'd suggest starting at 50-80mg and going from there. It's enough to not feel like you wasted a tiny bit to get nothing from it, you can bump it up if it isn't enough for you & make use of the starter dose before it washes out of your blood; but it's not so much that if you really haven't ever had pure speed and you misjudge your tolerance, you'll still be able to function comfortably & all.
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If you are not a regular speed user and do not have a high tolerance to it, please for you own safety if you are taking BM or CC's product start with 10-20mg. You can always redose higher if you need to.
I am a regular speed user of both pure and Rx based forms. When I first tried BM's pure speed I railed 10mg and it hit me hard. After getting used to it and switching to taking it orally, I dosed at 20-25mg and sometimes dosing twice a day.
Safety of your body should be your first priority. Start low then redose if needed.
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If you are not a regular speed user and do not have a high tolerance to it, please for you own safety if you are taking BM or CC's product start with 10-20mg. You can always redose higher if you need to.
I am a regular speed user of both pure and Rx based forms. When I first tried BM's pure speed I railed 10mg and it hit me hard. After getting used to it and switching to taking it orally, I dosed at 20-25mg and sometimes dosing twice a day.
Safety of your body should be your first priority. Start low then redose if needed.
This is always good advice; I'm just not usually that patient, personally. I'm picturing what a half-toothpick-sized line would be though... and I think I advised you to start too big. Try 50mg tops. 25-30mg would be good IMHO. Sorry about the sketchy advice.
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cc be back indeed. only see 5g listing, but have no coins here anyway. now all the guys hyping it can finally try it haha ;D SCNR just wait til caffeine_me sees it ;D
man this year starts weird, I can't decide what to buy, too much wants. when did that ever happen?
It is like saying "I wonder if the sun will be up tomorrow? ;D ;D ;D" "The sun will come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar..." only seven 5 g's left. It is taking a lot of self control (Well and the gram or three I have left of his last batches) to not use all my SR accounts and receiving addresses and buy them all. Good luck to all!!!! 8) 8) 8)
My favorite Dutchland (Not sure, but do occasionally see German text :-X) Man gets another +1 karma, you make me laugh often.
Too long (like really??) didn't read version:
1. Is there a difference in high from pure or cut stuff?
2. What's a good dose for a beginner, but not total beginner, but I'd rather keep it as safe as possible when using strong amph.
Shit SS! 50-80 grams to start? Are you trying to scare/kill away the competition ??? ??? j/k
It is very difficult to recommend any standard dose. I agree with SS on variability of Adderall and other pharma from pill to pill. The explanation I have found is that the FDA allows a 20% +/- variability in availability. So you technically have a 40% potential difference in dosage from one pill to the next. That is fucking huge.
Keeping that in mind. To answer the question I will refer back to my post I made way last year, with some updates:
***caffeine's subjective equivalency chart*** Usually always take orally[/b :)].
My gold standard: Straight from pharmacy Adderall 1mg = 1mg (A)
CC's first batch(s): 0.75mg (A)
BM's last 2 batches: 0.85mg (A)
Jeurgen's medical amphet-phosphate: 0.6mg (A)
MrF's new "90%": 0.5mg (A)
German express' last batch: 0.4mg (A)
AA's (Last "best batch" I gave to the toilet): 0.001mg (A)
So if I like 30mg of adderall then I would have to, for example, take 38mg of CC's or 36mg of BM's (Math: vendor amount / desired adderall dose = powder pep amount to tak)e.
Now that I have some shaky quantitative (pun intended) data, here is prices + International shipping correlated with dosage
;) ;) ;)***Caffeine's price analysis for currant amphetamine vendors I have tried**** ;) ;) ;)
Gold Standard: reports of 1USD/1mg of adderall $30/30mg IR pill;
I will call it $30/30mg IR Adderall (A)
$1.35 (A) CC's $36/1 gram or 0.036USD/milligram
I would say the average of his last batche(s) is %75 of (A) strength (30mg of Adderall = 37.5mg of CC)
*a little more dextro than levo-amphetamine for me
$1.14 (A) $63 /2 grams
$1.01 (A) $135/5 grams
$1.48(A) BM's $43/1 gram
I would say the average of his last batche(s) is %85 of (A) strength (30mg of Adderall = 34.5mg of BM)
*a little more levo than dextro-amphetamine for me
$1.22(A) $73/2 grams
$1.11(A) $163/5 grams
$0.98(A) $283/10 grams
$4.83 (A) Jeurg Med ~$115/1gram or 0.115/mg (60% of (A)) ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
$2.04 (A) MrFuck(Fire) $33.96/1 gram or 0.03396/mg (60% of (A))
$1.23 (A) $204.70/10grams or 0.02047USD/mg >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
So my recommendation if you are a noob to pure amphetamine (Especially since I think both of their batches will be the strongest yet) I would treat it equivalent to Adderall. Adderall comes in 5mg, 10mg, 15mg, 20mg, 30mg most common to give you an idea.
I would start with lowest recommended dose (5-15mg) and titrate every 60 minutes (with 10mg) until you reach desired effect. The faster/higher you push it, the faster you get to levels that produce more adverse side effects. Yes, also a good idea to have ambien, valium, ativan around in case you over do it. There is a shorter acting valium I can not remember, but that is great. Avoid Xanax, as it is the main contributor to benzo withdrawals.
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Hi CC, if you read the forum before SR, please hold my orders, there is an Address needed to be changed due security issue. Thanks
(sorry guys for PM on thread, but CC got PM blocked ;)
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when do you guys think you get around the full impact when snorting (so where you can add your next line relative safely if you want to go higher, not talking about sustaining lvl)? i would say around 15-45 min but im a newb but thats how i do/did it with powerades stuff (im not afraid of a small overdose but i dont want to get some sudden fucking overdose that would sustain over hours). i know i have to be more carefull with the high potent ones caus i also did not weight the amount.
for safety purposes i also have much benzos or booze but i dont know if that would really help in such a case (just read it somewhere that benzos are good for that).
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That's a really interesting breakdown, caffeine_me. I didn't catch that the first time around -- thanks for reposting :)
For what it's worth, there is one manufacturer of adderall that *seems* to get complaints most often: Corepharma. Also, I believe the 20% variation allowed by the FDA is outdated information (but the facts about this, for some reason, are very hard to track down). I think it's actually a 5% variation now.
I have actually seen a warning letter sent by the FDA to Corepharma, stating that they'll be fined if they don't improve their quality control. Apparently they were testing based on batches and as long as a batch had the right purity, they said the pills were good or something like that. The FDA said that wasn't good enough. The take away I got from it is that "it's good enough for my peace of mind, but not scientifically sound." I never really noticed much difference with Corepharma pills though, myself.
And it was a short letter without details, and this was like, a year or two ago (and the letter was already a year or two old). Anyway, the point is that either even pharmaceutical companies can't get their standardized doses correct enough to always feel basically the same (so no way small-to-mid-level clandestine manufacturers can be relied upon to do it), or the human body does stuff sometimes that makes it irrelevant and you have to expect doses and your reaction to them to vary at least a little bit.
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Interesting info on the variations in effects. If I'm on a measured daily dose for say a week, I do get variation in effects within that time, even though it's all from the same batch.
I take orally only now via capsule, so how empty my stomach is has an effect on how long it takes to kick in. Beyond that though, I can't explain the differences. Sometimes I will need a bump to "get there" after an hour, sometimes I'll be well and truly there within 40mins.
:-*
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P.S. 5g CC ordered ;D ;D
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If you are not a regular speed user and do not have a high tolerance to it, please for you own safety if you are taking BM or CC's product start with 10-20mg. You can always redose higher if you need to.
I am a regular speed user of both pure and Rx based forms. When I first tried BM's pure speed I railed 10mg and it hit me hard. After getting used to it and switching to taking it orally, I dosed at 20-25mg and sometimes dosing twice a day.
Safety of your body should be your first priority. Start low then redose if needed.
+1. First time I took BMs I snorted 20mg and the next morning I was still awake ha ha. It's better to have scales so you know exactly how much you're taking. Make sure you have benzos around! :-*
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I get a full 7-8 hours sleep off 10-20 mg (If I have used any recently I might take 20mg). When I awake I feel much more refreshed when I wakeup than from alprazolam, for example, which makes me feel so groggy.
This is because of the short half life of ambien/zolpidem
The half lives of diazepam and alprazolam are much longer (~10 hrs) so when you wake up you still have some in your system
I thought ambien also caused the body to get REM sleep, or am I mistaken? I thought it was somehow better for sleep than any benzo?
Ambien is used to treat insomnia and is more effective at doing so that diazepam. The half life of ambien is 2-3 hours so you're unlikely to still have effects in the morning. The half live of Xanax/Alprazolam is also very short and it works very quickly. Valium/diazepam can have an extremely long half life, you may feel as though you haven't woken up for the remainder of the following day.
Always keep benzo dose as low and infrequent as possible as addiction and subsequent withdrawal is the worst withdrawal you could ever experience. It's potentially lethal and worse than heroin withdrawal.
Lastly, you should always know the rough half life of any drug you take. Different medical bodies always debate half lifes but by doing some reading from various websites, you'll at least get a rough idea.
Edit to add clearlnet link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-drugs
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Geez this thread has been active.
So I finally received my stuff from Evilution incl a bit of hash. Of course the idiot I am, I used up my last .25mg xanax and 5mg zolpidem yesterday cause I was bored n angry of not sleeping + I was expecting 50mg of etizolam to arrive today anyhow.. but I spose that arrives tomorrow instead.
So uh, now I'm gonna be sitting on a bunch of speed but I guess I will order from BM and CC anyhow and take those rides later.
Need to go about my daaaay and then later this evening WHOOOSHIIIIi,, Finlly gonna get to do speed for first time in 19 days. Then I'll come back here and read the posts and write some 2 page long in coherent rant.
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When did you order from evilution if you don't mind me asking ohnoes123?
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Thanks Ohnoes123 for making me laugh this morning (+1)
I’m 2 weeks speed free, dagoberts 2g over a month late, Crystalmethcat approaching a month
The only speed I received from December’s ordering, was Evilution. I think they got theirs out a lot faster
Perhaps anticipating the Christmas rush, or they’re just diligent vendors.
It’s another “wait for the mailman, and prepare to be disappointed” morning for me.
Anyone know of CC’s success rate to US? I’m about to order from him and BM. I already know BM has a
Great turnaournd time for delivery to my destination anyway.
One more point about how amp hits you. I remember learning with Adderall to drink ½ teaspoon of bicarb (Baking Soda) in like an 8oz glass of water, either prior to, or while ingesting it.
It made a huge difference in potency for me. So if you were snorting amp, wouldn’t the same apply?
I’m not saying to snort baking soda and water, but maybe have a glass. Or dump a teaspoon in the water bottle you should be carrying around. Overall proper body ph? – Think that’s a factor with snorting as well?? Any thoughts??|
Also about Core pharma, add Sandoz to that list. Shittiest adderall generics. Barr is the only way to go. They in fact make the only Shire branded Adderall left. (The ER capsules). So basically Barr is brand name Adderall. It is for this speed freak anyway.
Peace
jagfug
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The baking soda thing is pretty well known, and pretty effective. Anything that raises the PH of your blood will be good for amphetamine use. Also it's generally healthier overall. :)
Lemon juice(Counter intuitive, I know!) works too.
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The baking soda thing is pretty well known, and pretty effective. Anything that raises the PH of your blood will be good for amphetamine use. Also it's generally healthier overall. :)
Lemon juice(Counter intuitive, I know!) works too.
I've never noticed a difference. I mean not a small one, not a tiny one, not a goddamn mother fucking smidgeon -- even went out of my way to try and bump it up like that and I just decided it's total bullshit or something. As always, your mileage may vary, but for me it makes no difference at all... shrug.
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The baking soda thing is pretty well known, and pretty effective. Anything that raises the PH of your blood will be good for amphetamine use. Also it's generally healthier overall. :)
Lemon juice(Counter intuitive, I know!) works too.
I've never noticed a difference. I mean not a small one, not a tiny one, not a goddamn mother fucking smidgeon -- even went out of my way to try and bump it up like that and I just decided it's total bullshit or something. As always, your mileage may vary, but for me it makes no difference at all... shrug.
To bad we can't all meet up someday. You know one of us would turn out to be LE. LoL
SS- I'd love to test out on you like, you're clean of any amph for 1 week. - I get a few 30 mg adderall. - Day 1, You drink a glass of Tropicana Orange juice, then you take a half pill (15mg) addy with a cup of coffee.
Meanwhile I take mine with the bicarbonate or tums whatever (Baking soda and water works 100% for me)
We see who starts getting annoyingly chatty, and has the desire to "do something". Let's clean the oven!!! LOL!
Next day, you try my way, again with 15mg Adderall, but take the baking soda + water 30 mins before consuming your dose. Follow that dose with a little more of that bicarb, and I'd bet you 5 btcs you feel a difference!!
Just how strongly I feel. Then again, I am an acidy guy. - No pun there. I used to have ulcers and take Zantac + Prilosec. - Then I discovered speed, lost weight, eat sensibly now. So not being a fat fuck
helps with the unnecessary stomach acid!!! ;)
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The half lives of diazepam and alprazolam are much longer (~10 hrs) so when you wake up you still have some in your system
The active metabolite of Diazepam can stay in your system for way over one week. That's slightly more than 10hrs and the reason it's so addictive. Facts here:
http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha01.htm#5
Anything that raises the PH of your blood will be good for amphetamine use.
*stomach, not blood. Just use a common antacid.
I thought ambien also caused the body to get REM sleep, or am I mistaken? I thought it was somehow better for sleep than any benzo?
Ambien is used to treat insomnia and is more effective at doing so that diazepam. The half life of ambien is 2-3 hours so you're unlikely to still have effects in the morning. The half live of Xanax/Alprazolam is also very short and it works very quickly. Valium/diazepam can have an extremely long half life, you may feel as though you haven't woken up for the remainder of the following day.
Always keep benzo dose as low and infrequent as possible as addiction and subsequent withdrawal is the worst withdrawal you could ever experience. It's potentially lethal and worse than heroin withdrawal.
Lastly, you should always know the rough half life of any drug you take. Different medical bodies always debate half lifes but by doing some reading from various websites, you'll at least get a rough idea.
+1 everything waterstruck said. AFAIK all benzos (including the Z-drugs) decrease REM sleep and mess with your sleep cycles in general. What's surprising is that you can sleep more than 2-3 hrs on Zolpidem.
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I'm done waiting on CrystalMethCat. for my lousy 1g speed.
Just changed my feedback to a "1" here's a copy+paste of my FB. After all this is a review thread.
"Marked shipped Dec 14, then asks to FE on the 24th!!!- I agree-even though I'm in US, not on her "FE" countries list. Jan 10 2013- still no package. If not a scammer, than just a shitty vendor, that doesn't know what the fuck their doing. Probably shoddy stealth/packaging, that's why so many don't make it. Either that, or selective scammer. Lesson learned. She can make it right with a re-ship, and this FB disappears, and becomes a "5". I have impeccable stats, so no scammer on my end. Just wanted a lousy gram of shitty German speed.
Am I wrong here or what?
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It's very aggressive.
You've assumed the packaging is shit and that the vendor's a scammer. You have no evidence. It could just be a factor beyond both of your control...
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I'm done waiting on CrystalMethCat. for my lousy 1g speed.
Just changed my feedback to a "1" here's a copy+paste of my FB. After all this is a review thread.
"Marked shipped Dec 14, then asks to FE on the 24th!!!- I agree-even though I'm in US, not on her "FE" countries list. Jan 10 2013- still no package. If not a scammer, than just a shitty vendor, that doesn't know what the fuck their doing. Probably shoddy stealth/packaging, that's why so many don't make it. Either that, or selective scammer. Lesson learned. She can make it right with a re-ship, and this FB disappears, and becomes a "5". I have impeccable stats, so no scammer on my end. Just wanted a lousy gram of shitty German speed.
Am I wrong here or what?
Nothing wrong with warning other costumers, according to me. But I'm guessing you've been in contact with the vendor before changing your feedback and gotten no or bad response? If not, you should try to resolve it with CMC. There is always the risk that the letter has been stolen.
Personally, I've received meth from CMC (ordered 0,2 gram just before christmas, got 0,5 gram. Very generous) and there was nothing wrong with the packaging. Pretty normal stealth, SR standard. It got through Scandinavian customs so.
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TLDR; pre-post:
Zolpidem has varying effects depending on users. Try it while sober to see how well it works.
Zolpidem (ambien) effects only 1 of the 5 GABA-A subunits, valium + xanax etc effect all subunits. Zolpidem has shorter half-life and effect than all of them. Therefor if you're able to sleep well on zolpidem alone then stick to it- as you are not effecting all GABA-a subunits and it won't effect you the next day.
Keep diazepam around if you need something to calm your nervous system down, it's best at this but forget about using speed next day. Xanax & etizolam are much better at combating pure anxiety but not as efficient at relaxing the body but doesn't stick around to impede you next day... still they last longer than zolpidem.
Also try to get phenibut (supplement status, available on ebay). It is not cross tolerant with z-drugs or benzos but is helpful for sleep and amphetamine withdrawal (it has a mild dopaminergic action).
DO NOT GET ADDICTED TO EITHER, track all you doses & time of ingestion. Easiest way is to use a stopwatch app/timer that lets you label them such as Chronology for iPhone. Might be others haven't looked.
Amphetamine withdrawal is a cakewalk compared to benzodiazipine and phenibut withdrawal. or anything that effects GABA.
Know your limits. Know your downers half-lifes, know when you need to take a break to avoid dependency.
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My 2 cents on the issue of benzos and z-drugs. As I mentioned before I acquired a big variet of them. Zopiclone, Zolpidem (zdrugs) nitrazepam, diazepam, xanax, ativan, etizolam, clonazepam.
I used a large amount over 2 months which would've prompted a bad WD.. I was fortunate not to get a particularly bad benzo WD, assisted by using phenibut and, I did take a 2 day break twice during the 2 months (during this break I smoked weed and used phenibut).
For me, physical addiction to amphetamine is a non-issue. The problem is indeed the concurrent GABA-A agonist use, this is known to cause worse dependency and withdrawal symptoms than HEROIN and other opiates.
At the same time you can't bunch z-drugs and benzos together entirely.
First of all, zopiclone- which to me was rather useless.. it has a longer half-life than zolpidem (ambien).
I think the use of zolpidem is entirely subjective, for some it works wonders, others not- I've read people getting bad reactions from it. I think if you haven't tried zolpidem then it is a smart idea to try it. After my trials I found it the most efficient for getting sleep. People say you don't get REM sleep on it but zolpidem only lasts for 1-2 hours and I have no problem staying asleep once I've fallen asleep thus getting REM sleep.
I discount zopiclone because 1. It EFFECTS more GABA-A Subunits than zolpidem, it also lacks the heavy hypnotic action that'll knock you out. Zolpidem is exclusive to GABA-A subunit a1 (there are 5 subunits I believe), which makes it a pure hypnotic. Stuff like valium(diazepam) effects pretty much all subunits thus making it a relaxant, sedative & anxiolytic.
In my experience it is best to have a variety of benzos and z-drugs. It is best to cycle them and HAVE OFF DAYS from amphetamine every 3 days.
Right now I keep diazepam around in case of emergency, as I find it's the best muscle relaxant. I think xanax and etizolam are quite close in terms of anti anxiety.. but they are not as good as relaxing physical stimulation as diazepam. Still, I prefer those two for coming down because they hit harder. quicker and have shorter half-life.. If I've taken too much amphetamine then I will take a small dose of the more anxiolytic quick action xanax/etizolam in addition to diazepam to calm my nervous system & body down better. Fortunately this does not happen because... dun dun dun
I USE DIGITAL SCALES & A stop watch app on my iPhone. I think it's called chronology, basically what it does is lets you NAME and RUN 20 stopwatches at the same time. So I input every time I dose, what dose size and start the stop watch. For all drugs. So I know exactly how much I dosed, how long ago.
I recommend you take note of your doses, if you can get some kind of nameable stopwatch application on your smartphone it's a big help. This way you will know how long you should wait before using benzos again to avoid dependency, how much amphetamine you've used to avoid doing too much.
BUT, it does not stop at GABA-A agonists. You can use PHENIBUT to aid with sleep and comedowns, it is NOT cross tolerant with benzos/z-drugs. It effects GABA-B and has some strange dopaminergic action. So I have this at hand as well... but I do not use it for comedowns (I have before). I use it for days OFF amphetamine (once a week or twice maximum as it develops tolerance and dependence quicker than benzos). The reason for this is because it is mildly dopaminergic somehow and completely quells the desire to take amphetamine for me. It also produces incredibly deep refreshing REM sleep for me.
When did you order from evilution if you don't mind me asking ohnoes123?
The 28th of December it was shipped. Of course there was the New years postage service break, but postal service resumed on 2nd of January I believe and was active at least where I am- during a few days before NYE. I was getting worried because I received other packages That were shipped on 2nd of Jan already last monday.
I took 50mg orally of Evilution and I only feel it very mildly but it wasn't bonedry. 19 days clean so I shouldn't have much tolerance but I think I have naturally high tolerance.. or unnaturally. I wrote a somewhat long post but I could really go for a nap right now. I'm guessing I'll need 75-100mg or so orally to get into a productive & motivated state. Then again taking 50mg and expecting to fly of a wet speed (although it wasn't very wet as I received it) and expecting to fly is a bit rich I suppose.
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(sorry for long double posts, I'm not even amped more than what a cup of coffee would give, I'm just an OCPD 120wpm typer)
I guess now that CC has his new listings up I can post about the quality of this batch.
I was allowed to make a sample purchase of 2g of what I believe is his current batch in November or so.
To me it's the best speed (along with MrFIREUK before he started cutting it then subsequently scammed and ran) I have used for my purposes.
The 2 grams lasted forever for me, I used mostly threshhold doses although the last dose I took was 100mg when my tolerance was sky high. The bodyload was pretty much low non existent. No tachycardia, very cerebral and good for productivity and conversation.
What I do is very mentally taxing and basically, CC's stuff enhanced my mental endurance and concentration 8x. The results was factual in my profits and hours. It was also gentle on the body and brain I found.
My personal opinion now is that CapeCrusader has the best speed available on SR if you're producitvity / efficiency oriented. With my brain I don't seem to get as much out of BM's speed as everyone else does and I find the bodyload compromising my experience.
Anyhow, it's a subjective topic, at least BM's latest batch of %90~ something is probably better if you want to be a pornstar and you're not susceptible to the bodyload. I'm not saying it's bad though- although I have no idea what his new batch is and neither does anyone else yet.
I will still rank BM as the second best speed (for my purposes) on Silk Road.
So, get shit done:
CC no 1 (please don't buy all of his stock k thx)
Get spun and obsessively have sex for a long time:
BM no 1
Overall I rate both of their speed as the best purest speed that you could possibly get regardless:
1. CC (CapeCrusader)
2. BM (BoyMaster)
Street speed:
92393423059340593453 (yea we are lucky to have access to this pure stuff, street speed is a joke in comparison and you don't have to worry about fucking random research chems, or whatever shit it's cut with!... long live SR)
One more point about how amp hits you. I remember learning with Adderall to drink ½ teaspoon of bicarb (Baking Soda) in like an 8oz glass of water, either prior to, or while ingesting it.
It made a huge difference in potency for me. So if you were snorting amp, wouldn’t the same apply?
I’m not saying to snort baking soda and water, but maybe have a glass. Or dump a teaspoon in the water bottle you should be carrying around. Overall proper body ph? – Think that’s a factor with snorting as well?? Any thoughts??|
lol well my wait is over I guess, now I just have to remain disciplined in the amounts and frequency. I have ordered too much because I was expecting this evilution gear not to arrive...
I've tried this bicarbonate method using antacid (gaviscon, like american tums I guess). It has sodium bicarbonate and calcium bicarbonate. The idea is to lower your pH making your blood more alkaline and reducing your body acidity (which eliminates amphetamine quicker).. So like, mixing your amphetamine into something highly acidic such as juice or a soft drink is bad.
It's not a potentiator but rather is meant to keep you high for longer... My experiment with it just made it nullify ruin the effects of amphetamine though so I haven't dabbled in it again.
Maybe it works for some people but for me it just made me unable to feel the effects properly. I've read mixed feedback about this trick so can't it doesn't or does work. ALl I know is it made 150mg of powerade speed do fuck all when 100mg dry did just fine the previous day (had tolerance but I'm certain it was the gaviscon that ruined it). Haven't tried with just pure baking powder though but I'd rather not mess with my bodys ability to eliminate amphetamine.
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I'm with all of you on this whole make-your-body-more-alkaline bandwagon. 8) Shit, to make sure I squeeze the most out of every mg of phetties I do 2 shots of bleach before dosing. 8) When you gotta up the speed make sure to also pump up the base 8) 8)
It may have already been posted, but I might have missed it, is Evilution's gear supposed to be around 30% or what is his purity at? And I can assume it's cut with caffeine yes?
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Am I wrong here or what?
i dont know that vendor but to be honest its a whole different thing if you order inside like the eu and there normally are no customs (except some random special operation) or if you have customs caus its to another country/continent. i think if they would have scanned each of the orders i got like with your backpack/handbag when you enter an airplane, than i guess not one would have arrived (i never ordered anything from outside eu so far). of course customs cant check all that masses (like the handbags at the airport) and when one is willing to sell intercontinental they should deal with that mess and do whats stated on the vendor page to be done in case of not arriving. for proxys seeming overcrwoded to silkroad atm i cant load the page and look what here conditions are, but i think splitting the loss would be best. i would be careful with accepting a resend caus as it seems its risky to order from her/him to usa for both sides.
edit: i just red her vendor page. man i wouldnt have orderd anything with that shitty conditions on there. feel free to give a really negativ feedback if you dont get half refund.
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Quick tip that I don't see many people use for snorting:
When you snort, put 3 middle fingers on your snorting side eyebrow (just above the hair) and press it up, this will help open your sinuses.
So, if snorting with left nostril, index, middle and ring finger evenly spread on the upper edge of eyebrow; index finger above left edge of eyebrow). middle and ring finger just normal distance (don't spread fingers). Then pinky spread press up a bit near inside of eye.
Close right nostril with right hand and thumb while holding straw with right index and and middle finger.
I'm sure some of you know this but in the words of biggie, if you don't knoooow then now you knoow nigga!
I never snort without doing this as it insures I hit the right spot and get proper airflow. You can try pressing up on eyebrow/above without snorting and you should be able to tell the difference in breathing.
(personally I will only snort once per day at most or as a small top up)
I realize this is the vendor review thread but I think our thread here is more than a simple review thread and a better discussion of How to get the most out of the stuff you order here. Should probably be retitled to Amphetamine Discussion & Vendor Review Thread.
I'm with all of you on this whole make-your-body-more-alkaline bandwagon. 8) Shit, to make sure I squeeze the most out of every mg of phetties I do 2 shots of bleach before dosing. 8) When you gotta up the speed make sure to also pump up the base 8) 8)
It may have already been posted, but I might have missed it, is Evilution's gear supposed to be around 30% or what is his purity at? And I can assume it's cut with caffeine yes?
Evilution speed is undoubtedly cut with caffeine but I don't think it's a huge amount. From Belgium so I assume it's sourced from Holland, and we all know Holland is the capital for wet caffeinated speed... It's a fair assumption to say that 99% of wet speed from that region is cut with caffeine. If you're unable to get BM or CC stuff (like I was cause they were out) then it's matter of finding the best "paste/wet" speed.. the best will have the lowest amount of caffeine ratio because caffeine is a garbage.
I drank 50mg and just snorted 50mg and I don't feel particularly spun up with low tolerance. This amount of CC would've split my brain into 3 seperate mega super computers capable of performing tasks. Or with BM's stuff made me rampantly beat my dick like it owed me money for 8 hours.
I don't wanna guestimate the quality, did someone indeed labtest Evilution's gear? For me it feels around 30-40%ish I guess. I don't feel much bodyload at all right now which caffeine would contribute to but I don't feel strongly amped either. I will revisit the question once I try 100-150mg orally since 50oral + 50 snorted hasn't gotten me where I want in terms of cognitive enhancement. I will be able to tell if the caffeine cut is there for sure & how detrimental it is then. Better than street speeds that run at 10-20% anyhow.
hehe this is what I wanted to do too when I was running out.. Don't know if you are joking abuot the bleach but I'm fairly certain drinking bleach is probably not a good habit lol. Just.. um spend money on more speed instead of bleach!
Perhaps I took too much sodium bicarbonate but all it did was make me feel a bit odd and nullify my last 150mg (which would've been a large enough dose to get comfortable). Might've been cause the only contents in my stomach was Gaviscon (antacid) it just stopped the amp from absorbing since it reduces stomach acids.
I think I need to work on getting my points across in shorter posts... Either way I'm out, gonna eat dinner since my appetite is normal then try larger doses and do some work.
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It's very aggressive.
You've assumed the packaging is shit and that the vendor's a scammer. You have no evidence. It could just be a factor beyond both of your control...
Well, Newbie with 6 posts, I'm basing my assumption upon other spotty feedback, and a profile that never gets cleaned up. Says at the bottom (that's the oldest part), I don't require FE, then further up, they list 3 or 4 countries that must FE because of too many "missing packages".
Like I said, she/he can make it right. Just respond to my emails/PM's. Currently there is no "update", and anytime they put an "update" they don't put the DATE !! A sign of someone who is not very conscientious.
That's a big thing with me. Above all other vendor qualities, the most important one is conscientiousness. Not sure if there's a Finnish or German word for that.
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You still don't know that the packaging was bad or that they're a scammer. 'chk' even posted evidence to the contrary above.
Also, it's strange and silly you'd jump on my post count, as if it indicates someone's intelligence level...
Am I wrong here or what?
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Or with BM's stuff made me rampantly beat my dick like it owed me money for 8 hours.
This is the best quote ever. This is EXACTLY what I have experienced every single time I've done BM's gear (2nd batch).
I will revisit the question once I try 100-150mg orally since 50oral + 50 snorted hasn't gotten me where I want in terms of cognitive enhancement. I will be able to tell if the caffeine cut is there for sure & how detrimental it is then.
hehe this is what I wanted to do too when I was running out.. Don't know if you are joking abuot the bleach but I'm fairly certain drinking bleach is probably not a good habit lol. Just.. um spend money on more speed instead of bleach!
Hmm, I use roughly 300mg+ of caffeine on a daily basis so I have a bit of a tolerance, but I'm just worried that if I overdo it with Evilution's stuff since the purity is not as high as BM or CC that I'll end up getting all vomity and shit all over the place like I do when I take too much caffeine too quickly.
And yes, I was joking about the bleach. ;)
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Man this thread is active! Thanks ohnoes and everyone who replied, +1 to all! That is great info and makes much sense. Since zolipdem works for me I'm going to stick with it. I also have some midazolam coming which has a short half life (and its water soluble!so I'm sticking with the shorter half-life ones.
My CC order is marked as shipped; my BM one should be here anyday now. Ill update if it arrives!
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Quick tip that I don't see many people use for snorting:
When you snort, put 3 middle fingers on your snorting side eyebrow (just above the hair) and press it up, this will help open your sinuses
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Slightly offtopic, more body-hacks:
http://imgur.com/1MWoT
if your nose is clogged, do #5. Really works.
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Deepmoves, the forums get hit with quite a few "people" that defend or highly rate a vendor and usually end up being the vendor themselves trying to improve their rep. They are all accounts with low post counts. Don't take it personally.
Also, remember that the ratings are an opinion. We've all been here seeing Jagfug's updates as he has continued to not get his shit and it's totally ok for him to complain as nicely or as viciously as he wants to and rate accordingly. He is, after all, just reflecting his own experience.
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Also about Core pharma, add Sandoz to that list. Shittiest adderall generics.
I didn't really follow all that, because it's pretty much impossible. Dunno about America, but Sandoz produces some of the best generic meds there are, in EU. If it really is Sandoz Switzerland (bought by Norvartis afaik) who produces them.
@Everyone: All this general info about benzos'n shit repeats over again and as sorry as I am (not :P) I don't read it, it's just too much. I think it's safe to say I'm not the only one. Why not put it in a separate thread and link to it? Doesn't clog up this thread and can be reused. It's valuable info after all that just gets lost this way.
Oh boy, you can forget this thread once the orders actually arrive haha.
@jackintherox: midazolam is on of the "hardest" benzos, it can even be snorted (sold as nasal inhaler). Please report on the amph+midazolam combo!
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Anything that raises the PH of your blood will be good for amphetamine use.
*stomach, not blood. Just use a common antacid.
*urine, not stomach
Lowering your urine pH leads to faster excretion of amphetamine, raising it makes the speed stay in your system for longer.
"The data demonstrated that amphetamine excretion increases with increasing urine flow and decreasing urine pH."
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9788523)
Drinking lemon juice = bad unless you want to come down quicker [edit: might be wrong about this, see below!]
Drinking baking soda with water = good
Antacids (like omeprazol) = Not sure
Read this and let me know what you think. It is a quote from Robert Young, Alkaline diet advocate.
It is often said that "acidic" fruits like lemons, limes and low sugar grapefruits are acidic and will acidify the fluids of the body. In fact, the citric, lactic, and other acids in such fruits exist primarily in their anionic form, especially as their Na+ and K+ salts (e.g., potassium citrate or calcium ascorbate).
Following absorption, these anions are metabolized to bicarbonate (HCO3) and therefore will alkalize -- not acidify -- the blood and tissues. Alkalinization occurs even though the fruits pH in vitro is typically low (4 pH), because the free protons are more than offset by the generate bicarbonate -- electrons. For example, a liter of diluted lemon juice (1 part lemon to 10 parts distilled water) with a pH of 4 has only 0.1 mmol (i.e., 10 to the minus 4 moles) of free protons. As long as the quality of organic anions exceeds this small number, which it does, a net alkalinization will occur.
I hope this gives many of you clarity concerning the alkalinization of low sugar fruits in vivo.
I never noticed much of a difference though.
And about the benzo discussions.. I honestly don't mind. Speed and benzos go hand in hand for a lot of people, so we probably have some pretty knowledgeable people in here. The only problem I see is that it makes it harder for newcomers to get a decent picture of the current market, but as long as we make sure to answer speed related questions I don't really see the harm in going offtopic every once in a while. :)
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Anything that raises the PH of your blood will be good for amphetamine use.
*stomach, not blood. Just use a common antacid.
*urine, not stomach
*gastric acid actually, the urine has to come from somewhere :)
The problem with baking soda (imho) is that it reacts with acid and creates CO2, which blows you up and makes you burp a lot. Which I don't like. I use mainly products with Mg/Ca/NaCO3. Omeprazol is a PPI, which as to the best ow my knowledge is very effective in inhibiting the production of gastric acid, but unlike antacids not so effective for the treatment of "environmental" pH-changes.
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"The data demonstrated that amphetamine excretion increases with increasing urine flow and decreasing urine pH."
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9788523)
In other words: Drinking a lot (eg of water) will increase urine flow which will in turn flush the amph out of your system. Who would have thought 8) ;D Where can I apply for these studies? ;D ;D
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Yes yes, I suppose lowering stomach acidity is how you lower urine acidity, I'll give you that. My point was that it's the acidity of the urine that *directly* affects the rate of excretion. Just nitpicking, sorry about that. :)
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Had only ฿2.57 left in my account.
CC's 1g listing is ฿2.56 w/ shipping must be fate 8)
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Just a post to appear on page 250 of speed thread :P
(yes I'm bored, sober since 10 days)
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Yes yes, I suppose lowering stomach acidity is how you lower urine acidity, I'll give you that. My point was that it's the acidity of the urine that *directly* affects the rate of excretion. Just nitpicking, sorry about that. :)
And I thought the low-pH urine is a byproduct... Anyway, doesn't really matter as they are obviously connected.
I don't mind the re-iteration of knowledge either per se, I just skip it as I have read and wrote tons of it on amph/gaba/etc. myself. But I do think it's lost knowledge, while everyone's typing happy on speed, wouldn't it be nicer to make some e.g. wiki? And work on that. It could be refined and refined with new knowledge, instead of textwalls and it would be useful and easy to find. just sayin'... Maybe I'll start that once BM arrives :P
Keep the knowledge coming though! 8)
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You've confused me: baking powders and antacids are bases, so would lower blood/urine pH, correct? But the information quoted says lowering pH is bad, because you excrete the amphetamine quicker. So, baking powders/antacids = bad, not good, contrary to popular belief?
Deepmoves, the forums get hit with quite a few "people" that defend or highly rate a vendor and usually end up being the vendor themselves trying to improve their rep. They are all accounts with low post counts. Don't take it personally.
Also, remember that the ratings are an opinion. We've all been here seeing Jagfug's updates as he has continued to not get his shit and it's totally ok for him to complain as nicely or as viciously as he wants to and rate accordingly. He is, after all, just reflecting his own experience.
Noted, thanks. I just think it's poor form to talk shit about people unless you're reasonably sure. Anyway...
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I USE DIGITAL SCALES & A stop watch app on my iPhone. I think it's called chronology, basically what it does is lets you NAME and RUN 20 stopwatches at the same time. So I input every time I dose, what dose size and start the stop watch. For all drugs. So I know exactly how much I dosed, how long ago.
I recommend you take note of your doses, if you can get some kind of nameable stopwatch application on your smartphone it's a big help. This way you will know how long you should wait before using benzos again to avoid dependency, how much amphetamine you've used to avoid doing too much.
1+ for this, sir.
Only difference I use "oldschool" pen and paper and write down every mg I ingest and who (if we are more then just me).
The thing with Benzos and their characteristics of forgetting things alone would force me to do this. And it helps if you like to mix drugs ,-)
stay safe,
take care
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Still no BM in the mail today :-(
And with the mail folks not working on sat/sun it's gonna be a wait for Monday.
Lucky I received all my other orders this week so I'm sitting comfortably on 20g. Actually 12,45g because I washed out the caffeine with waterfree aceton.
I have Powerade, Amsterdope and Evilution and decided to wash out the caffeine with waterfree aceton this time cuz I don't really like too much caffeine it seems.
I repeated the washing process 3 times. Here are the results:
Amsterdope (5g):
Arrived kinda wet: 5,56g (including baggie)
After drying: 4,15 (without baggie)
After 3x washing: 3,02 (without baggie)
Evilution (5g)
Arrived moist: 5,45g (including baggie)
After drying: 4,11 (without baggie)
After 3x washing: 2,86 (without baggie)
Powerade (10g + 2g extra for the long wait)
Arrived extremely wet, almost liquid: 13,56g (including baggie)
After drying: 8,17 (without baggie)
After 3x washing: 6,57 (without baggie)
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Figured it was worth jumping on CC's 2g listing while he's still around, so I've got some BTC on their way to my account. I shall update upon its arrival!
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Is the postal service in Europe still slow since Christmas? Few people have gotten from BM which seems weird (only two arrivals according to his feedback).
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I suppose beter to paste wiki explanation regarding sodium bicarbonate, rather then trying to write something on my bad english :)
On average, about one half of a given dose is eliminated unchanged in the urine, while the other half is broken down into various metabolites (mostly benzoic acid). However, the drug's half-life is highly variable because the rate of excretion is very sensitive to urinary pH. Under alkaline conditions, direct excretion is negligible and 95%+ of the dose is metabolized. Having an alkaline stomach will cause the drug to be absorbed faster through the stomach resulting in a higher blood level concentration of amphetamine. Having an alkaline bladder causes dextroamphetamine to be excreted more slowly from the blood and into the urine. Alkalinization of the urine can decrease the renal elimination of amphetamines, both potentiating the strength and prolonging the mechanism of action, especially when ingested with sodium bicarbonate.
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Is the postal service in Europe still slow since Christmas? Few people have gotten from BM which seems weird (only two arrivals according to his feedback).
Yes, nothing arrived today. (Since last friday in transit). inside EU, regular speed
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Is the postal service in Europe still slow since Christmas? Few people have gotten from BM which seems weird (only two arrivals according to his feedback).
I am also waiting for the BM order(shipped last friday), and 2 other orders from UK to Central EU over 10 days now. If it ain´t no cospiracy then i hope
it´s just the postal service :-D
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Is the postal service in Europe still slow since Christmas? Few people have gotten from BM which seems weird (only two arrivals according to his feedback).
central EU: back to business as usual. I actually received a letter on 24th (took an extra day) and one on the 31st (3 business days as usual).
I talked to a mailman just the other day and he semi-confirmed my theory, that Germany is to "blame" here. The core-axis of central EU (Germany and it's neighbors) has lightning fast delivery speeds.
rest of Europe: dunno what they are doing :P probably still drunk from Christmas :P
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Fast delivery from ireland, greece and netherlands but sloooowww from BM.
Makes me wonder...
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Amphetamine solubilities:
base sulfate
water slightly soluble soluble
ethanol soluble slightly soluble
ether soluble insoluble
chloroform soluble insoluble
mol fraction caffeine solubility
consider that water solubility is 1g/50ml very similar to acetone
The mole fraction solubility x of caffeine in water, ethyl acetate, ethanol, methanol, chloroform,
Mole Fraction Solubility of caffeine in Solvents at 323 K
solvent 10^3x (higher value has better solubility))
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water 10.151
methanol 5.859
ethanol 5.512
acetone 12.322
dichlormetane 50.548
chloroform 94.032
ethyl acetate 9.946
Still have some speed so I will try to wash first with chloroform to remove caffeine then with ether. Amph is insouble in chloroform and ether.
Will post result when I finish.
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Is the postal service in Europe still slow since Christmas? Few people have gotten from BM which seems weird (only two arrivals according to his feedback).
central EU: back to business as usual. I actually received a letter on 24th (took an extra day) and one on the 31st (3 business days as usual).
I talked to a mailman just the other day and he semi-confirmed my theory, that Germany is to "blame" here. The core-axis of central EU (Germany and it's neighbors) has lightning fast delivery speeds.
rest of Europe: dunno what they are doing :P probably still drunk from Christmas :P
Just received weed delivery..8 days domestic(Stoner dispatch!!) So I don't expect BM and CC to arrive before next week.... Tomorrow would be good tho'..
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Man this thread is active! Thanks ohnoes and everyone who replied, +1 to all! That is great info and makes much sense. Since zolipdem works for me I'm going to stick with it. I also have some midazolam coming which has a short half life (and its water soluble!so I'm sticking with the shorter half-life ones.
My CC order is marked as shipped; my BM one should be here anyday now. Ill update if it arrives!
I think I placed my CC order within two or three hours after his listings went up but it is stil processing :/ Not that it réally matters considering that the shipping time is going to be long anyway, but I'm kinda eager to see for myself what has made the guy pretty much a legend here on the forums.
Also; stil no sight of my BM order (to western Europe), like the others.
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What did you guys choose as shipping option? I ordered priority and it was sent on Monday, but no show until now....
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Is the postal service in Europe still slow since Christmas? Few people have gotten from BM which seems weird (only two arrivals according to his feedback).
central EU: back to business as usual. I actually received a letter on 24th (took an extra day) and one on the 31st (3 business days as usual).
I talked to a mailman just the other day and he semi-confirmed my theory, that Germany is to "blame" here. The core-axis of central EU (Germany and it's neighbors) has lightning fast delivery speeds.
rest of Europe: dunno what they are doing :P probably still drunk from Christmas :P
Confirmed. I received my 5g from powerade today, it was shipped on Wednesday and I'm not even in central Europe.
Lightning speed that 2 days... TOO BAD MY BENZOS DIDN'T ARRIVE GRRR.
I was able to sleep using a combo of phenibut and 25mg doxylamine however.
My evilution stuff didn't lose much weight for wet speed. I had 2g and it's now 1.85 bone dry which is good.. not much wet solvent or I received overweight wet. 25% loss with powerade. 50% loss with the really average pastes.
Obviously I would like to buy some of CapeCrusader speed pronto. When you buy from him you have the unique experience of buying directly from the cook... so there are no uncertainties when dealing directly with Walter White aka Heisenberg!
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I think I placed my CC order within two or three hours after his listings went up but it is stil processing :/
My CC order was Jan 9 and marked shipped Jan 10. Maybe just not updated yet because silkroad sysadmin asleep again or the ISP issues CC mentioned, have a word with CC if it's not marked in transit soon.
What did you guys choose as shipping option? I ordered priority and it was sent on Monday, but no show until now....
Standard postage, marked in transit last Friday, no show in the UK. To my relief there is a single confirmation of delivery among the FE's on his vendor page today. It's not as reassuring as a forum post but enough to give me a bit of hope for the Saturday post.
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Thanks for the concise review Shamiroqai
Also DeepMoves I appreciate your candor in finding my report a bit abrasive. In hindsight, I see it as such as well, however it will stand, unless of course that vendor responds to my PM's.
If that happens, I will revert back to a "5" and congratulate her (them whatever) for doing the right thing.
müslix thank you once again for helping to explain that. I don't think I would have been able to do that with the same clarity you have.
also in the Sandoz, I know what you mean, I know they are a great company, in fact I think I knew someone who worked for them ages ago.
it's just their Adderall, that seemed to barely work. This was also before I started taking it with bicarbonate.
BTW, I broke down and ordered a 5 pack of Adderall 30 ER's - took two days US domestic. So I'm feeling much better again
Karma up to all three of you. Nice to have such diverse opinions on here. This really seems like the best thread on here.
Also you valentinesmith, for your input, and that great retro avatar of the dude with the pipe. Makes me smile everytime!! ;D Karma +1
Peace
jagfug
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Had only ฿2.57 left in my account.
CC's 1g listing is ฿2.56 w/ shipping must be fate 8)
Karma +1 to you. Welcome to the best board on the SR Forum ! 8)
Peace
jagfug
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I do apologize if some orders take so long to process. It is a painfully slow task trying to process 40+ orders everyday when the main site is so slow. No idea why but it's only the main site. I can connect to the forum or any other site on Tor in a few seconds. I shipped most orders out late on Thursday which means they will have entered the postal system on Friday and probably only leave the country on Monday so please take into consideration working days when calculating the shipping time as our postal system is offline on weekends. One again i do apologize for the slow processing time. All remaining order will be shipped first thing Monday morning. From Monday onwards all orders will be shipped within 24 hours as the initial rush of orders should have slowed down a bit.
Best regards
CC
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I do apologize if some orders take so long to process. It is a painfully slow task trying to process 40+ orders everyday when the main site is so slow. No idea why but it's only the main site. I can connect to the forum or any other site on Tor in a few seconds. I shipped most orders out late on Thursday which means they will have entered the postal system on Friday and probably only leave the country on Monday so please take into consideration working days when calculating the shipping time as our postal system is offline on weekends. One again i do apologize for the slow processing time. All remaining order will be shipped first thing Monday morning. From Monday onwards all orders will be shipped within 24 hours as the initial rush of orders should have slowed down a bit.
Best regards
CC
Thanks for the update! I can see how the order in which orders came in gets easily messed up with that amount of orders and half of the pages not loading or taking forever but from what I've read here your product is well worth the wait so no problem :)
For me the site seems to be at it's very slowest when it's late afternoon/evening in Europe by the way. I have no idea if most SR users are based in Europe or if it's just a coincidence though.
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You've confused me: baking powders and antacids are bases, so would lower blood/urine pH, correct? But the information quoted says lowering pH is bad, because you excrete the amphetamine quicker. So, baking powders/antacids = bad, not good, contrary to popular belief?
pH lower than 7 = acid
pH higher than 7 = basic/alkaline
Taking an antacid raises your pH, which slows the rate of amphetamine excretion through urine (= stays in your system for longer). As an added bonus, there is apparently all kinds of effects on absorption speed and whatnot.
In other words, popular belief is correct :)
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Oh my shitting christ, somehow I've gone 10+ years thinking that school taught me -7 = base and 7+ = acid. Holy fuck.
Sorry!
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lol
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hi Ladies and gents
allow me to introduce myself..HollandOnline...was working before at PremiumDutch with much pleasure.
have a great HQ batch SPEED and a couple of free tester samples thrown in om my Profile...
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/f107f66e89
hope you find it interesting to take a look at
Good weekend !
Sincerely Yours
HollandOnline
SR
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b27491ec56
SR Forum Topic Rumor mill
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95571.msg678344#msg678344
SR Forum Topic Product Offers
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95723.0
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I am looking to order speed and was wondering what selected forum members meant?
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Today i received 1g from Powerade.
+ Fast domestic delivery (tuesday->today)
+ Quality OK
+ not dripping wet
- not fully dried
0,805g after drying 9 hours on my good old CRT-Monitor.
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Amphetamine solubilities:
base sulfate
water slightly soluble soluble
ethanol soluble slightly soluble
ether soluble insoluble
chloroform soluble insoluble
mol fraction caffeine solubility
consider that water solubility is 1g/50ml very similar to acetone
The mole fraction solubility x of caffeine in water, ethyl acetate, ethanol, methanol, chloroform,
Mole Fraction Solubility of caffeine in Solvents at 323 K
solvent 10^3x (higher value has better solubility))
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water 10.151
methanol 5.859
ethanol 5.512
acetone 12.322
dichlormetane 50.548
chloroform 94.032
ethyl acetate 9.946
Still have some speed so I will try to wash first with chloroform to remove caffeine then with ether. Amph is insouble in chloroform and ether.
Will post result when I finish.
This post is gold. But I was under the impression that caffeine is *not* soluble in acetone, and an acetone wash will *not* remove caffeine (except for the miniscule amounts the trace H2O in the acetone picks up). Is this really correct? I mean am *I* really correct.
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This post is gold. But I was under the impression that caffeine is *not* soluble in acetone, and an acetone wash will *not* remove caffeine (except for the miniscule amounts the trace H2O in the acetone picks up). Is this really correct? I mean am *I* really correct.
Yep, caffeïne is totally soluble in acetone (about 1g/50ml, as mseller already said). Just use google if you want some hard science to back that up :) In fact, I think it's the main reason why most people wash their amphetamine with acetone.
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BM review:
Had 20 mg yesterday: didnt feel much, no problem sleeping 5 hours later.
50 mg this morning: So far, it's extremely strong on the body. I'm literally freezing even though the room is heated, I even have to put on gloves and another sweater.
But I am bit disappointed about the 'head feeling'. I can still feel some 'tiredness' in there and the mental fog has only lifted marginally.
I am prolly gonna wait a few days and then return. My experience is that it might take some days to get adjusted to new speed. Promising nevertheless.
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BM sample and order arrived..Happy as a hippy in a head shop..Update later =:-)
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You've confused me: baking powders and antacids are bases, so would lower blood/urine pH, correct? But the information quoted says lowering pH is bad, because you excrete the amphetamine quicker. So, baking powders/antacids = bad, not good, contrary to popular belief?
pH lower than 7 = acid
pH higher than 7 = basic/alkaline
Taking an antacid raises your pH, which slows the rate of amphetamine excretion through urine (= stays in your system for longer). As an added bonus, there is apparently all kinds of effects on absorption speed and whatnot.
In other words, popular belief is correct :)
hmm so this means also that taking ascorbic acid (vitamin c) etc would be not so good? i was taking huge amounts of multivitamin pills (with also calcium, magnesium etc) while using the speed (like 5-6 of the normal daily recommendation and around 5 liters of water in 24h).
is this a serious effect or is it less compared to like if you take 500mg or 600mg of powerades stuff in a 24h session (than of course i just would stick to the vitamin pills for security reasons). i know from my massive caffeine consumption that i tend to get cramps in the food when using much/not eating and staying awake too long which i can reduce with magnesium.
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The results from iisthisisi 72% d/l amphetamine is 68% amphetamine and no caffeine measured on the Dutch way.
So 68/73*100 gives a result more then 93% amphetamine and no other nasty things.
Very good speed is the conclusion.
It's a pity that he doesn't sell amphetamine at the moment.
I will post the results from Eric Cartmann next week. Something went wrong in the lab.
Speedie
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Hi guys, is anyone familiar with BoyMaster's shipping services? Is there a difference between Normal and Priority mail to the EU? Does Priority have to be signed for?
yes, priority is faster. It's usually well worth the extra € if you are in EU and it's not domestic and the country shipped from doesn't have a whacky postal service.
registered = signed for. priority alone = not signed for.
Hi Muslix, I'm sorry for not thanking you earlier but I've not been on here for a while. Thanks very much for the relevant information, it's exactly what I needed to know. 8)
When I can figure out how to activate Karma I will +1 you.
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Order from BMya hoo hit the f....n spot ,excellent sulph .
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The results from iisthisisi 72% d/l amphetamine is 68% amphetamine and no caffeine measured on the Dutch way.
So 68/73*100 gives a result more then 93% amphetamine and no other nasty things.
Very good speed is the conclusion.
It's a pity that he doesn't sell amphetamine at the moment.
I will post the results from Eric Cartmann next week. Something went wrong in the lab.
Speedie
Thanks for posting this. I was curious about it since the sample I got was like a freight train hitting me.
Out of curiosity, would meth have shown up in the test if there was any?
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The method for quantification used by the Dutch labs is GCMS. This method is used because of it's excellent ability to separate organic compounds.
Amph and meth differ only one methyl group from eachother.
When the labs encounter it, they will most certainly notify you. Since meth is a rare substance in the Netherlands, the labs will make note of it.
Couple of months ago there was amph on the market cut with 4-methylamph. Even <1% was mentioned in the test results.
Also, I wanna thank speedie for the test results. Nevertheless, still curious what the other 6-7% is..
Probably some other amines closely related to amph.
New batch of amph is expected somewhere this week.
Will be giving some free samples from this batch, so please keep an eye on this thread!
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Great news iisthisisi, I've been checking your profile every day! :D
And 68% damn that's freaking awesome.
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Boymaster's new batch is here and Saturday post is a great thing.
First impressions: It's yellower and not as dry as the last batch. It's not wet just not quite dry - almost damp and quite sticky. His last batch was powdery when I got it and poured out easily, this one needed to be scraped. However I did order it the day it was listed and the last batch I bought had been finished for a while. Anyway I'd rather have sticky Boymaster speed which arrives today than a dry powder which arrives next week :)
No complaints at all, very happy in fact! It dried out before I finished this message and finalised, the yellow shade faded to not quite white and it's time to titrate some up my nose.
Update: I doubt anyone will be surprised to hear it's as strong as the last batch. My low tolerance means 40mg works fine and is enough for this afternoon, trying not to try more till tonight and tomorrow morning...
Can't wait for CC's to arrive. Will get some from iisthisisis when it's listed. The 30% stuff was good and exactly as described, wanted your uncut amp for a while so this is excellent news, thanks for the annoucement - I'll have coins ready this time! Out of interest, does iisthisisi have any meaning? Hope it's not inappropriate to ask, I'm just curious...
Well, I can't remember having this much choice of quality amphetamine. The only vendor I think is missing is ruthenium. Has anyone heard if he's coming back?
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Out of curiosity, would meth have shown up in the test if there was any?
YES. fo shizzle! Anything psychoactive that is out of the ordinary will show up, that is what these tests are for - safety, not dicksize :)
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It does really mean something.
Depends on how you write/say it.
I is this is I.
Or in other words, hello everyone, it's me 8)
Was looking for a nickname and this just crossed my mind.
Nevertheless, I should edit my listing to 68%. as this would make a more accurate listing.
Still wondering what the other 4% is..
I'm sending out 5 samples of 100 mg each from this new batch. If you're interested please send me a pm, or reply to this topic.
Some people have already been preselected.
Also on this amph, bone dry and if you put it in front of the fan you'll have a sandstorm in you room 8)
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Sure, I would love to try it, your last batch was gone before I could make a purchase :)
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CapeCrusader is on'vacation mode' - that's when you see in RED
"THIS USER HAS NO ACTIVE LISTINGS"
I guess it was because he was overwhelemed, and had ISP problems. - OF course when I'm about to get BTC's
Well thank God for Boymaster. - Lucky for me he doesn't hold a grudge for me being tough on him. :-[
I never really said anything bad, I was just being suspicious, and that's the whole point of the boards. You never know when someone's going to fly the coop!
Now if I can just make these adderall last !!!! ??? :'(
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iisthisisi, I would love to try a sample, but do you ship to US?
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No I'm sorry, shipping is limited to EU only.
Knomo, I'll send you the sample as soon as I have the gear.
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CapeCrusader is on'vacation mode' - that's when you see in RED
"THIS USER HAS NO ACTIVE LISTINGS"
I'm just taking a one day break to get through the backlog of orders because the main site is so slow on my side. I will put the listings back up on Monday.
Regards
CC
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CapeCrusader is on'vacation mode' - that's when you see in RED
"THIS USER HAS NO ACTIVE LISTINGS"
I guess it was because he was overwhelemed, and had ISP problems. - OF course when I'm about to get BTC's
Well thank God for Boymaster. - Lucky for me he doesn't hold a grudge for me being tough on him. :-[
I never really said anything bad, I was just being suspicious, and that's the whole point of the boards. You never know when someone's going to fly the coop!
Why did you stop being suspicious now? I also think it's odd that all of a sudden the listings were shut down again.
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What's the best way to store some of BM/CC speed so it doesn't lose potency?
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Boymaster's new batch is here and Saturday post is a great thing.
First impressions: It's yellower and not as dry as the last batch. It's not wet just not quite dry - almost damp and quite sticky. His last batch was powdery when I got it and poured out easily, this one needed to be scraped. However I did order it the day it was listed and the last batch I bought had been finished for a while. Anyway I'd rather have sticky Boymaster speed which arrives today than a dry powder which arrives next week :)
No complaints at all, very happy in fact! It dried out before I finished this message and finalised, the yellow shade faded to not quite white and it's time to titrate some up my nose.
Update: I doubt anyone will be surprised to hear it's as strong as the last batch. My low tolerance means 40mg works fine and is enough for this afternoon, trying not to try more till tonight and tomorrow morning...
Mine came in today as well.
5032 said the same things as I thought. 100% signed
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What's the best way to store some of BM/CC speed so it doesn't lose potency?
In airtight bag which has air removed and in a freezer.
Less oxygen means less harmful reactions and lower the temperature means slower reaction times = molecules last longer in their original state.
If product is not completely dry then it is good to dry it first to get rid of all water (paste is good to store as it is because it's liquid is mostly some solvent and not water).
ps. dont take it out and open it and then put it back, keep what u use in a separate bag = store it in multiple bags.
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How quickly is speed likely to lose potency? I've gotten the impression so far that it's pretty stable, but didn't someone upthread mention that it actually does store better in the fridge/freezer or something? I'd usually go investigate, but I'm tired as all get out and this thread can be a bit... meandering :P
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Amphetamine sulphate is very stable, but some products have lots of other chemicals in it which can create all sorts of problems for it to stay intact.
But in all cases storing to a dark, cool and dry place like freezer is the best option, but the product should be free of water (at least thats what i have understood ).
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Amphetamine sulphate is very stable, but some products have lots of other chemicals in it which can create all sorts of problems for it to stay intact.
But in all cases storing to a dark, cool and dry place like freezer is the best option, but the product should be free of water (at least thats what i have understood ).
I think the formation of ice crystals can destroy some of the molecules on occasion. I mean I'm picturing a water with amphetamine sulfate floating around in there freezing, and water expands, which means it's going to put some small crushing pressure on some of the amphetamine sulfate -- which could translate to some of the molecules breaking apart. I mean I doubt it would be many, but I suppose it would happen to some extent. Naturally an actual chemist can correct me if I'm mistaken.
Honestly, I don't think that if the speed is pure, you need to worry about freezing it. Just keep it at 60ish (15C) degrees or so. You know, cool room temperature and out of sunlight. But do whatever. Unless you're planning on storing it for a year I don't think it makes much difference.
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The results from iisthisisi 72% d/l amphetamine is 68% amphetamine and no caffeine measured on the Dutch way.
So 68/73*100 gives a result more then 93% amphetamine and no other nasty things.
Very good speed is the conclusion.
It's a pity that he doesn't sell amphetamine at the moment.
As I pointed out previously (;D) this batch was pure fire. Second only to BM, but not by much.
To everyone who ignored my recommendation: http://i.imgur.com/pDrVQ.jpg
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- received 5g from powerade that i ordered thursday on saturday (domestic)
- nothing from boymaster yet (was shipped on friday 4th) with normal shipping. so when you want it fast to germany you should use his priority shipping i guess, or did anyone from germany receive it yet?
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It does really mean something.
Depends on how you write/say it.
I is this is I.
Or in other words, hello everyone, it's me 8)
Was looking for a nickname and this just crossed my mind.
Nevertheless, I should edit my listing to 68%. as this would make a more accurate listing.
Still wondering what the other 4% is..
I'm sending out 5 samples of 100 mg each from this new batch. If you're interested please send me a pm, or reply to this topic.
Some people have already been preselected.
Also on this amph, bone dry and if you put it in front of the fan you'll have a sandstorm in you room 8)
I want to give you props for bringing such a high quality, clean product to the market. I am looking for you, but I am sure others may wonder the same thing. Do you ship to the US? Thanks again for "cleaning up" SR's speed market.
update: sorry, missed your response until now. No worries, let us know if things change in the future.
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What's the best way to store some of BM/CC speed so it doesn't lose potency?
My favorite place to store it is in my belly.
Seriously though, I have often wondered that. What got me thinking about it is I still take ibuprofen that is 4 years past "expiration date" and it works the same. I am currently subjectively testing some of BM's and CC's stuff by vacuum sealing some and storing for a year-ish and keeping some in a simple baggy. I have had BM's and CC's stuff for over 6 months just sitting in a dark dry environment and neither seems to have changed in potency. I actually use less now then 6 months ago because I have discovered for my body I get all the positives out of the substance at lower doses and less of the negative ones. Plus I can take it regular without having to take as many breaks because my tolerance doesn't change.
Shit, starting to ramble. Basically, I think it will last for years without really any noticeable loss in potency by storing it like you would for most medications.
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- received 5g from powerade that i ordered thursday on saturday (domestic)
- nothing from boymaster yet (was shipped on friday 4th) with normal shipping. so when you want it fast to germany you should use his priority shipping i guess, or did anyone from germany receive it yet?
Mine was sent on Monday with priority, but I didn't receive it yet. I think tomorrow....
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- received 5g from powerade that i ordered thursday on saturday (domestic)
- nothing from boymaster yet (was shipped on friday 4th) with normal shipping. so when you want it fast to germany you should use his priority shipping i guess, or did anyone from germany receive it yet?
I live in the country right next to you and ordered from BM with priority mail (order and transit fri, januari 4th) and nothing yet. I'm hoping for tomorrow..
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How quickly is speed likely to lose potency? I've gotten the impression so far that it's pretty stable, but didn't someone upthread mention that it actually does store better in the fridge/freezer or something? I'd usually go investigate, but I'm tired as all get out and this thread can be a bit... meandering :P
I always store my speed in a ziplock bag inside a small stash box, no freezer or anything fancy like that. It's not uncommon for the speed to be there for a few months before it's all gone, I still have some of BM's last batch (from august/september I think) and it's as good as ever.
I've never noticed any kind of speed losing any potency during storage, but I guess YMMV.
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So I decided to skip on CC's batch and opt for HollandOnline's 'HQ batch' instead as they are also offering cheap ketamine. I shall update with my experience!
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Guys, the question about storage methods has been asked and answered before. Even the chemists themselves responded, I think it was CC or maybe BM. He said as long as you don't store it at hot temperatures (the point at which amphetamine starts to break down is a few hundred degrees), it will last for years. It is a stable molecule at room temp. That is the gyst of what was said.
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- received 5g from powerade that i ordered thursday on saturday (domestic)
- nothing from boymaster yet (was shipped on friday 4th) with normal shipping. so when you want it fast to germany you should use his priority shipping i guess, or did anyone from germany receive it yet?
I live in the country right next to you and ordered from BM with priority mail (order and transit fri, januari 4th) and nothing yet. I'm hoping for tomorrow..
I'm across a small channel not far from there. Ordered Thurs, in transit Friday, post stamped Tuesday and arrived Saturday(See pg 244 - mentions two days delay after posting). This means I should get some sleep and you should get some mail today :)
Anyone else see BM's prices for the smaller amounts have changed a lot and the larger amounts not so much? Bitcoin exchange rate changes do the opposite and high prices change most. I paid extra and I'm impressed, it's good business strategy and looks like chemistry isn't the only thing BM are good at.
Note: I have no idea what a good business strategy is until I've handed over money because of one.
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so the consensus is BM speed still as good as the dry orange stuff pre vacation?
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I tried 10mg of BM speed (no tolerance) and I was able to study for 5 hours straight on a single dose 8)
The high was very clean and pleasant, and I could sleep right afterwards.
10/10
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Woohoo, BM order came in the mail today!!
About storing the amph... can I just store the paste in the freezer and take some out every time? Or first dry it and then store it in the freezer?
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Im sorry but BM's stuff doesnt do it for me this time. It's just too much body and not enough head. I mean there is no relief in the head just 'heavyness'. I am still dead tired mentally hours after doing 20-20-10 mg, but with freezing hands and feet. 95-100 bpm. It's like the amph goes to the body instead of the head.
Strangest ever. Batch back in September was solid, but this one feels weak for the head and is too strong for the body. Anyone knows what could be doing this? What is different from the new batch and sep-batch?
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Woohoo, BM order came in the mail today!!
About storing the amph... can I just store the paste in the freezer and take some out every time? Or first dry it and then store it in the freezer?
I feel like giving you negative karma but I'll refrain. Have you not read any of the past posts from the last day or two?? Amphetamine sulfate is a very stable molecule. If you keep it at room temperatures and don't let it get hot (no sun, etc), then you will be fine for at least several years. The freezer is unnecessary, and might even be detrimental to it. Do you keep your adderall in the freezer because it is made of amph. sulfate too? Separate your stuff into a several different stashes and work from one while keeping the others stored.
Im sorry but BM's stuff doesnt do it for me this time. It's just too much body and not enough head. I mean there is no relief in the head just 'heavyness'. I am still dead tired mentally hours after doing 20-20-10 mg, but with freezing hands and feet. 95-100 bpm. It's like the amph goes to the body instead of the head.
Strangest ever. Batch back in September was solid, but this one feels weak for the head and is too strong for the body. Anyone knows what could be doing this? What is different from the new batch and sep-batch?
I would be interested to hear what BM has to say, chemically, why his amphetamine is so body-load strong. We haven't gotten an answer other than the possible guess of D or L amphetamine ratios, maybe that is it? Out of curiosity, what ROA did you use? I find that orally ingesting it gives the most body load, followed by insufflation, and lastly IV.
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ROA is rectal.
Insufflation the other day with same effects.
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If u take half a cup of strong coffee and u have no tolerance u will feel all kinds of negative effects of the cofeine.
But in time when u grow some tolerance u can enjoy it's stimulating effect, but moderation is required which people often lack.
That same applies to all stimulants..
But then again my first experience with amphetamine was with a very pure and potent product and i didnt feel any bodyload (i swallowed it and it was very moderate dose), but i have ADHD..
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Received sample from BoyMaster today.
The amp is dry as usual (edit, upon further inspection it is not completely dry as the other batches- it is indeed a bit damp and odd looking but still, I regard this as DRY,considering most of the speed on SR comes floating in solvent that leaves a stench- noticable months after removed from a container) Has no solvent smell or stink at all, have to get real close to smell the catpiss type smell. In appearance and smell it is night and day from the mountain of wet shit I'm sitting on.
I can't report on effects as I'm still waiting for two damn benzo deliveries. I'm not doing this high powered stuff without benzos at hand. I'm not kamikaze enough for that :)
It's a bit of an irritation factor, all my different amph orders arrived. So now a nice stash (I'll try this new BM stuff as soon as benzos come- which they should've... last week) but I've no downers or anti anx meds. Doxylamine I really don't like, makes me mind fogged for the entire day after and doesn't necessarily help me sleep. Phenibut can be a bit unpredictable and I've taken it for 3 days in a row so cutting that out before I get a dependency on it.
Anyways, all good to go on BoyMaster I suppose... now where are those friggin sedatives :(
Im sorry but BM's stuff doesnt do it for me this time. It's just too much body and not enough head. I mean there is no relief in the head just 'heavyness'. I am still dead tired mentally hours after doing 20-20-10 mg, but with freezing hands and feet. 95-100 bpm. It's like the amph goes to the body instead of the head.
Strangest ever. Batch back in September was solid, but this one feels weak for the head and is too strong for the body. Anyone knows what could be doing this? What is different from the new batch and sep-batch?
To be honest this is pretty much what I experienced with the previous 2 orders from 2 diff batches I've tried. Except 110-120bpm resting.
Whereas with CC stuff I had no bodyload.
I tried the "getting used to it" route that everyone mentions... well, i was taking and tolerating 70-80mg doses without getting that super cerebral push I look for. Who knows, maybe if you got effects out of the previous batches I will get (my desirable)effects out of this one :)
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Im sorry but BM's stuff doesnt do it for me this time. It's just too much body and not enough head. I mean there is no relief in the head just 'heavyness'. I am still dead tired mentally hours after doing 20-20-10 mg, but with freezing hands and feet. 95-100 bpm. It's like the amph goes to the body instead of the head.
Strangest ever. Batch back in September was solid, but this one feels weak for the head and is too strong for the body. Anyone knows what could be doing this? What is different from the new batch and sep-batch?
Sounds a little bit like mdpv.
How was the come down and the morning after?
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I'm quite disappointed by BM's Amph. Its smell is disgusting and it looks
like rancid fat. I don't even want to try this.
I wish I had ordered less of it.
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I'm quite disappointed by BM's Amph. Its smell is disgusting and it looks
like rancid fat. I don't even want to try this.
I wish I had ordered less of it.
Do you prefer the white, cut to hell, swimming in nasty solvents kinda speed than? Order from Aakoven
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BM's sample and the regular order finally arrived - review comes later.
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I'm quite disappointed by BM's Amph. Its smell is disgusting and it looks
like rancid fat. I don't even want to try this.
I wish I had ordered less of it.
Nice try, MrFireUK. (kidding).
How much did you order? I am sure you can sell it off easily here.
Received today as well, both sample and my order :) Looks like BM reshipped the samples?! Can't comment on quality yet, it has a yellow-ish color though, that almost disappears when you chop it up. A bit sticky, just like the late last batch and the CC sample.
Looks good so far.
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Can anybody tell me about the speed Calikartell and proline offer?? Both german sellers..
thanks in advance.
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I'm quite disappointed by BM's Amph. Its smell is disgusting and it looks
like rancid fat. I don't even want to try this.
I wish I had ordered less of it.
errr.. what?
If you want something that smells nice and looks tasty perhaps you should buy chocolate :) Can I ask what your experience with illicit amphetamine is?
This isn't pot either, you don't have to spend 5 minutes smoking it and tasting it. You take a tiny bit and swallow it then get amped for 5-8 hours. If that's not what you expect from amphetamine then I think you're purchasing the wrong drug. Anyhow regardless, your perception of the "smell" and "look" is ill informed.
Do you realize that this batch of BoyMaster doesn't smell much at all compared to 99+% of illicit speed (because it's cut to fuck with solvent and dripping wet..). This batch is semi damp at worst, most of shit you can order here and find on the streets is a bag of wet solvent puddle with cutting genents, lactose, caffeine... and you can smell it from miles away. I have to put my nose right at this stuff to smell it. I can smell the average cut crap from across the room.
So to dismiss the product you paid for and received when it is better than anything you can find on the streets- based on it not smelling like perfume. Well, to be frank it's difficult to tell if your post is genuine or just dmtdoodels / aakoven shill hating other vendors for actually supplying real amphetamine.
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Can anybody tell me about the speed Calikartell and proline offer?? Both german sellers..
thanks in advance.
to deal with proline is a game of luck, one time you get good quality and the next time he sends out pure coffein crap. he is also very unsafe, he don't use encryption etc. stay away.
with ck I don't have experience, but I've heard rumors that's the same guy who sells under jalapeno?!
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with ck I don't have experience, but I've heard rumors that's the same guy who sells under jalapeno?!
awwww. Lets hope not. He tried to rip me off for an ounce. He's the reason my refund rate is fucked :/
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Can anybody tell me about the speed Calikartell and proline offer?? Both german sellers..
thanks in advance.
Until proven otherwise you may safely assume it's caffeine cut wet solvent amphetamine. As is the majority of German & Dutch speed.
Your best bet is to message the vendor and ask whether it's a paste / wet speed. If it is then it's most likely going to be your average stuff with which your mileage may vary.. I STRONGLY recommend against purchasing the cut speed while we have 3 vendors who are supplying uncut, dry speed.
It's not a case of just "buying more" of the cut product and using larger dosages- fact is that you will get worse effects due to the cut and chemistry. Less positives duration+intensity while causing more negatives, and speaking of negatives in drugs- it's shit that you pay for with your personal well being.
The locale may seem convenient but the value of waiting just a couple of extra days for quality is unmeasurable.
Speaking of which:
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Decided to try just 20mg oral of BM.
Personal conclusion:
Better than 100mg dried Evilution stuff, also the powerade gear but I react poorly to caffeine so, those who don't won't experience the same problem.. I'm a bit muddy from phen hangover so I can't get a complete feel for it yet other than saying it's active. BM has product at the time being regardless of recent feedbacks. I'll be able to try my more standard 50mg oral later in the week. I stopped snorting after Evilution's stuff gave me nosebleeds for the first time ever (one hour after snorting)- it was my fault not saying it is acid speed or anything. I was snorting a bunch of small lines over a timespan and didn't clear my nose snorting with water. Normally never do more than 1 line as a booster to oral doses.
Still, it was somewhat disconcerting as my nose just started leaking like a faucet out of the blue. I haven't snorted a lot of stuff in my lifetime so not like I'm running my nose ragged. I prefer oral smoothness of effect and duration anyhow. Snorting was just a bit of a novelty for me, the burn so good a teardrop trickles down your cheek.
What I can say is that after snorting the cut amph sporadically my breathing through my nasal passage has improved. I couldn't breathe very well through my right nostril before. I guess the shit must've burnt open my nasal passage or something lol so I can breathe properly through my nose. I guess it's a win and time to call it quits. Only down the hatch from now.
Geez, this 20mg has me typing quickly in an outmost pedantic fashion.
I can definitely recommend the product. Even at $40 per 1g it is still lots more value for money than buying say 5g (that dry into 3.5 or so) of wet speeds available from most vendors for $70, possibly twice. We are talking $2 per 50mg nice oral dose (can take half that for strong productivity aid). vs $4-5 per dose of something that doesn't provide as good effects- while causing more unpleasant side effects due to caffeine cut.
To me one negative remains however:
the heavy bodyload. I think this could be subjective and ppl will react differently. for me it can become a bit of a botheration as I prefer stuff that doesn't cause me much; I wouldn't be able to go dancing or walking around in town on this. my HR would probably spike into anxious levels if moving around too long.
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Im sorry but BM's stuff doesnt do it for me this time. It's just too much body and not enough head. I mean there is no relief in the head just 'heavyness'. I am still dead tired mentally hours after doing 20-20-10 mg, but with freezing hands and feet. 95-100 bpm. It's like the amph goes to the body instead of the head.
Strangest ever. Batch back in September was solid, but this one feels weak for the head and is too strong for the body. Anyone knows what could be doing this? What is different from the new batch and sep-batch?
Sounds a little bit like mdpv.
How was the come down and the morning after?
Come downs are very rare in my book so I usually don't pick up on them. But I did experience something strange as I ate 15-20 mg this morning. One hour later I felt I was about to throw up and I was very tired w headaches. It lasted for 2-3 hours, like an intense flu or something. Now everything is fine again. I know I am a bit sensitive to the oral route because of reflux, but this was very strange indeed.
I absolutely do not hope that it is mdpv as another NDRI (methylphenidate) works like poison in my body and is lethal to me. But why should it...
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I'd like to start out by saying this is regarding Boymasters very first batch. I did not order any of his recent stuff (opted for CC instead), but I'll say this: I was very disappointed in BMs speed. I mean I ended up deciding it really was very good pure amphetamine sulfate, but something just didn't do it for me. It really was almost like it was all body load and no psychological stimulation. Like 25% dextro and 75% levo or something, as unlikely as that may be.
The recent description by stronk, frankly, mirrors my own experience. Infact I at first thought it was cut heavily with ephedrine because of my experience, but I deferred to him and the rest of you who didn't seem to think so at all. I'm not saying I was right, I'm simply trying to point out for balance that there really does seem to be a very subjective aspect to even very good quality, virtually pure amphetamine sulfate. Some reacts beautifully with me. Some reacts so poorly I almost don't even like it let alone take it for fun or getting stuff done.
So bear that in mind; it's entirely possible something about BM's speed just reacts poorly with me. If it can happen to me, it's possible it may happen to others. But it's still high quality amphetamine sulfate and worth giving a try -- if it works for you, great, order a fucking kilo or something. If it doesn't... just report your experience in the interests of an accurate average to all the reviews, and let things fall where they may. That's my philosophy, anyway.
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Sorry, it's possible I didn't make enough of a point about how unlikely "25% dextro and 75% levo" really is. I was just trying to describe my subjective experience, I was not trying to imply I suspected that your product really does have that ratio. If I was misleading then I apologize, I didn't mean to be.
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Im sorry but BM's stuff doesnt do it for me this time. It's just too much body and not enough head. I mean there is no relief in the head just 'heavyness'. I am still dead tired mentally hours after doing 20-20-10 mg, but with freezing hands and feet. 95-100 bpm. It's like the amph goes to the body instead of the head.
Strangest ever. Batch back in September was solid, but this one feels weak for the head and is too strong for the body. Anyone knows what could be doing this? What is different from the new batch and sep-batch?
Seems the same to me. 40mg of this batch had the same effect on me as 40mg of BM's last batch and 40 mg of the CC batch. My scales are too cheap to find any slight differences between BM and CC - or iisthisisi's uncut stuff when I get some.
I think I get a similar bodyload from whatever speed and not that much until I overdo it. No idea why other people get others negatives than me. I always have the same mental effect no matter what speed it is (even the local stuff if I take enough). Dose, tolerance, how long I've been redosing and how much sleep can make it feel different. Other drugs too of course - you already knew this though :)
I believe you so why on earth isn't it working for you... Are your scales reliable? Do you have a calibration weight to double check? Maybe some tolerance or neuron depletion? How much amp/adderall/mdma/meth/etc have you had and how recently? Did anyone tell you who has the best meth on the SR?
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also the powerade gear but I react poorly to caffeine so, those who don't won't experience the same problem..
there is really a serious amount of caffeine in it. im a caffeine addict for many years (200mg-300mg daily, mostly instant as tablets in the morning) and the last days when i used(binged) powerades speed i did not take any extra caffeine (i normally get withdraw headache pretty fast if i dont take any.). this is really important to note if you want to take a large amount and are not used to much caffeine, i guess you can get strong heart bumping, sickness, shaking etc especially in combination with the amphetamine.
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also the powerade gear but I react poorly to caffeine so, those who don't won't experience the same problem..
there is really a serious amount of caffeine in it. im a caffeine addict for many years (200mg-300mg daily, mostly instant as tablets in the morning) and the last days when i used(binged) powerades speed i did not take any extra caffeine (i normally get withdraw headache pretty fast if i dont take any.). this is really important to note if you want to take a large amount and are not used to much caffeine, i guess you can get strong heart bumping, sickness, shaking etc especially in combination with the amphetamine.
I was recently educated by the fine folks here: caffeine is quite soluble in acetone. As well as many other things that amphetamine sulfate is not. You can clean your speed of caffeine with a simple dry acetone wash, and you're good to go. Of course the large proportion of caffeine will mean you lose a lot of weight... but you're losing caffeine weight, which you don't really want anyway, right.
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i received my gramm from boymaster today and was a bit negatively surprised that it was yellow and not completely dry this time. however it wasn't wet either, just a bit sticky as someone else noted.
after drying, it now looks like the last order i got from boymaster and i'm also happy to tell that
after trying, it now works like the last order i got from boymaster. (note the sick stylistic devices)
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Received my 2g order from BoyMaster. It was yellowish and smelled of solvent but it gets the job done -- 75mg later and I'm well and truly awake and ready to get things accomplished. Thanks, BoyMaster: hope you stick around for a while as I'd like to stock up on this.
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I also got my 2 g BM order, in the US. Everything great, can't wait to order from CC and compare.
There has been discussion on bodyload and comparing CC and BM... I was wondering if anyone notices a difference in cigarette cravings? I'm prescribed both adderall XR and IR, and it seems like I get less cig cravings with IR sometimes. Sorry if this was already talked about.
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We can analyze the % of amphetamine, the % of enantiomers and even the spin of the electrons if you want, but it'll not change the extremely low accuracy of human subjective opinion.
low only on average, very true none the less. expectation, tolerance and an adjusting body are further shifting the perception. imo this batch is really light on the body.
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Glad to hear so many positive reviews of Boymaster - As you know I was suspicious, but then you have to be.
I have a 2g order marked in transit today!, We'll see how long it takes to get to Obamaland ! !! !
Evilution speed has a different solvent than you're used to. I'm very sensitive to most, sot it struck me most. Check back this board in mid to late December.
The trick was letting the solvent evaporate. I took enough for a few lines out, but on a dark piece of glass with a Gro-Lux Bulb pointed at it, like the sun. 10 mins later, had 4 great lines, a little stinky from solvent, but enough to let me wait till later.
We got a ton of snow, so I went out like a shoveling maniac in a T-thirt, Sunglasses, and Bluetooth headphones hooked up to my phone tunes.
I spread the rest on a hot heater I can leave on all day at no cost to me. - Dried out that solvent smell good. - Took a 2nd chopping up, and another eveporation period, before it chopped up like regular speed.
A nice purple pink hue to it.
That stuff got voluminous . After the second chopping and grinding (mortar +_ razor) The yield looked more like 2 grams than 1. - I had no scale but that was a fun 4 days for myself by friend, and his kids!!!
Waiting for Boymaser. Just shipped, so hopefully the priority helps it along. I've gotten in under a week previously from him. I expect nothing short of the best.
I'll let Dagobert off the hook. My 2g's are gone. I've had like 7 perfect transactions, and he's a FE guy, and the chips fall where they may.
I would buy from Dagobert again. I blame post office
Also have a few domestic (US) adderall headed my way, to help me make it through the wait!! 8)
Peace
jagfug
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Glad to hear so many positive reviews of Boymaster - As you know I was suspicious, but then you have to be.
I have a 2g order marked in transit today!, We'll see how long it takes to get to Obamaland ! !! !
Waiting for Boymaser. Just shipped, so hopefully the priority helps it along. I've gotten in under a week previously from him. I expect nothing short of the best.
Also have a few domestic (US) adderall headed my way, to help me make it through the wait!! 8)
Peace
jagfug
I ordered from boymaster on the 3rd and it went in transit later that day. I think it may have started shipping the next day, so took 10-11 days to get to the northeast, sent priority. It sounds like their postal service was behind though.
Who'd you order adderall from? I was anticipating bm's package so much last week that I forgot I could get my script filled. That was a good day. :)
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resolved
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quit speeding 2 days ago, again
one thing, i got the fucking itches, like creepy crawly crawling on me need to itch that shit quick, skin is turning red, doesn't happen all the time but if i ignore it the tingling gets pretty intense :-[
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I also got my 2 g BM order, in the US. Everything great, can't wait to order from CC and compare.
There has been discussion on bodyload and comparing CC and BM... I was wondering if anyone notices a difference in cigarette cravings? I'm prescribed both adderall XR and IR, and it seems like I get less cig cravings with IR sometimes. Sorry if this was already talked about.
Although I quit smoking regularly, I have found that heavy body-load amph like BM does not make me crave cigs which is a good thing. Adderall made me crave cigs more, but then again that is dextro. I don't think it is a very big difference though, if you crave cigs off adderall chances are you will off any kind of amphetamine.
@unique: is it bad to post that detailed description of packaging? I thought SR advised against doing that. You gave pretty detailed information there: exactly what envelope, what's inside, and where it was from. I suggest removing that asap for the sake of the vendor who obviously made a mistake.
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Hi guys just my rundown of sulphate purcahses from the road. Been a used of speed since 1993. Not constantly, but use it for weight loss or cycle training... these days. Was raver back in the 90s and would 3.5g a night! Those days are long gone.
Remember this is jsut my views.
Evilution - dries to a nice yellow/pink hue and reminds me off the "pink champagne" speed we used to get in the UK in the 90s. I found the buzz to be clean, no heart palpitations, and really goes well with a beer - then 30mg valium 8 hours later. Liked it so much ive ordered more.
Crystal Meth Cat - Done a runner. Product never received. No response to messages. constant bad feedback.
AAKoven - I always dry my speed. My girlfriend doesnt. She ate a teaspoon full and ended up in hospital for 3 days! Fuck knows what solvent was in it but she was in a bad way - but dried its a nice speed - but has a slight "mental" edge to it. Made me aggressive. would buy again AND DRY IT OUT FIRST if I was desperate.
Poweerade - Low phet content imo. cut with baking soda or caffine. cant quite tell but doesnt have the RAAAAAA factor I've had from Evilutions or AAKovens. Its not a rubbish product and if its all you can afford it will do you.
Polq1234 - Rubbish. Did very little. cant tell what the cut was. just not very strong at all.
juergen2001 - The best speed on the road I've ever bought. Shame he doesnt do it anymore. Incredibly clean buzz.
I've not bought from BoyMaster yet although I'd like to give it a go.
Remember folks - pure Amphetamine Sulfate has no smell at all. If it stinks its solvents or left ofers from Synthasis.
ALWAYS DRY YOUR SPEED FIRST.
Anyway thats just my take on it.
There is a UK source I found too that was expensive and the glucose content was so high it was like eating sweets.
Summary:
prefered:
jurgen2001, Evilution
will settle for:
Powerade
wont use:
AAKoven, Crystal Meth Cat, polq1234
Would like to try:
BoyMaster
CapeCrusader
Amsterdope
Modoki
dagobert
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Received my BM package today. I haven't done much today, maybe 50mg in total, even so my legs are aching pretty much. Did you experience the same? I also realized that this stuff burns extremely in my nose! I think I've read anywhere that this is caused by the different ph-level of the nasal mucosa and the amphetamine. Any ideas?
Another point that surprised me, was the gear itself. It's kinda sticky. First I thought, it's not dried 100% but it doesn't lose any mentionable weight after lying around for six hours. Any one knows (maybe you Mr. BM) why this stuff has this consistency?
Thanks ;-)
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quit speeding 2 days ago, again
one thing, i got the fucking itches, like creepy crawly crawling on me need to itch that shit quick, skin is turning red, doesn't happen all the time but if i ignore it the tingling gets pretty intense :-[
hi,
is this a withdraw symptom or do you mean you quit because you got that during on amphetamine?
get well.
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@roqii
Don't even seem to be talking bad about BM's speed, the "pros" in this thread will cover you in negative karma :D
I mean it's common sense that its quite hard for a substance advertised with >96% to be sticky
like that - it should be a dry powder, nothing else.
For the disgusting smell tho it could be a very minimal amount of sth causing it.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and everyone reacts differently to different speed. Since this latest batch has not been tested we can't assume it is the same as the previous batches (although it looks to be the same stuff from what people are saying, my shipment has not arrived yet). I find that if you are having negative reactions from BM's speed then you're probably doing too much. From my friends and my experience, you will eventually get used to it, but at first it is easy to overdo it.
One question, why can't high purity product be slightly "damp"? The solvent that is left behind doesn't change purity since it is not a solid and evaporates out over time...
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Received 1g of AfghanApothecary's phet listing today; really well packaged and stinks once you open it up. Going to dry it and see what it looks like, currently seems a little damp. Anyone tried this new batch?
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Im sorry but BM's stuff doesnt do it for me this time. It's just too much body and not enough head. I mean there is no relief in the head just 'heavyness'. I am still dead tired mentally hours after doing 20-20-10 mg, but with freezing hands and feet. 95-100 bpm. It's like the amph goes to the body instead of the head.
Strangest ever. Batch back in September was solid, but this one feels weak for the head and is too strong for the body. Anyone knows what could be doing this? What is different from the new batch and sep-batch?
Seems the same to me. 40mg of this batch had the same effect on me as 40mg of BM's last batch and 40 mg of the CC batch. My scales are too cheap to find any slight differences between BM and CC - or iisthisisi's uncut stuff when I get some.
I think I get a similar bodyload from whatever speed and not that much until I overdo it. No idea why other people get others negatives than me. I always have the same mental effect no matter what speed it is (even the local stuff if I take enough). Dose, tolerance, how long I've been redosing and how much sleep can make it feel different. Other drugs too of course - you already knew this though :)
I believe you so why on earth isn't it working for you... Are your scales reliable? Do you have a calibration weight to double check? Maybe some tolerance or neuron depletion? How much amp/adderall/mdma/meth/etc have you had and how recently? Did anyone tell you who has the best meth on the SR?
Normally speed is also speed. Falling into an interval of potency of course where you have stronger speed and weaker speed. And I do think that adderall has more of a whole body experience to it than just pure dextroamphetamine. I do like the semi-intense rush of blood going through the body which is why I prefer adderall to dextro, racemic to dextro. Scale is calibrated and I battle neuron depletion and tolerance with all kind of different supplements.
I also noticed that I had a subtle depressed-like feeling all yesterday evening. It was very strange as I usually never go there and get to experience these sad feelings / emotions.
Today I wanted to test BM's stuff again. So this morning as I had a project to attend I went for some of iisthisi's prime stuff which I still have left. 30 mg (insufflation) and it worked perfectly. Good hours went by and then around noon, I snorted 10 mg of BM and then 5 mg more ½ hour later. Since then mental tiredness increased and i've got cold hands and feet once again. I just tried to take a nap and even though I feel tired in my head the body just rejects to fall asleep. It is very puzzling to me. The good feeling that came with iisthisis speed is fading and instead a hangover-like shitty semi-depressed wave of emotions is taking over.
As I am n=1, I know next step would be to blind test it or take a longer break and what not, but seriously something is going on. I have tried all the different kinds of speed possible and to me speed was pretty much always the same coming from a spectrum where it could be either stronger or weaker and have a body element to it or not. But speed must be valued for whether it serves its main purpose. And this does not do to me what I expect of speed, which is clearing the mental fog and beating the tiredness for the time being. And even worse, it actually seems to worsen my state leaving me with utter frustration since it seems that everyone is raving over this amazing product.
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My 1g BM order arrived through standard mail: Jan 3rd - Jan 14th (8 working days, southern Europe).
The weight seems fine (you people scrape everything out just to weigh the bag?) and as with everyone else, very yellow, slightly moist and a strong smell to it.
Dose: 70mg in my coffee (my scales has +/- 10mg accuracy) and I'm fully awake and very "on". I haven't used for about a month, but I've spent some time in a Germanic country, so my tolerance is slightly high, I think.
I'm pretty happy with this batch so far. I found the previous one was very high in body load and I had some back pain, nausea, constant urinating, but I understand that it was quite pure. This one still feels very physical, but with less of the negative effects (so far). There's still a bit of mental fog, which I'd prefer wasn't there.
The effects of the different vendors' products seem to be subjective and depend on your body chemistry, so trying each one to find "your fit" seems like a good idea. I'm waiting on my very first CC order and IIS's batch blew my socks off and took me back to my first times using. I'm excited!
(note to BM: the bag I received had a hole in the side, but it's no big deal since it was vacuum packed)
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Im sorry but BM's stuff doesnt do it for me this time. It's just too much body and not enough head. I mean there is no relief in the head just 'heavyness'. I am still dead tired mentally hours after doing 20-20-10 mg, but with freezing hands and feet. 95-100 bpm. It's like the amph goes to the body instead of the head.
Strangest ever. Batch back in September was solid, but this one feels weak for the head and is too strong for the body. Anyone knows what could be doing this? What is different from the new batch and sep-batch?
Only thing I can think of that would cause that is the product not being synthed correctly. (Too much levroamphetamine)
Instead of a 50-50 levro/dextro ratio like a-phet sulphate should be - it might be more levro, the a-phet that causes the body high.
I have absolutely no idea how that can be done, though.
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I received a 500mg. sample from BoyMaster yesterday as well.
First of all, thanks, BoyMaster, i appreciate this:)
Letter had a Jan 08 stamp, and arrived to some EU country Jan 14th. Packaging is alright, around SR average.
Product indeed is a bit damp, has a strong smell, but the person who said s/he doesn't even want to take this amph because of how it smells, probably never bought speed before;)
First thing in the morning I took 30mg. capsule of BM's speed, prepared another one the same size just in case, and I'm off to work. I noticed that the first high of the bag always feels best for me (anyone else?:) ), probably has to do with anticipation, so usually I write reviews after few days to be more objective.
I haven't had good speed in a long while, and today's experience puts all the samples of 'speed paste' I tried the past few months into different perspective:) 30mg. of current BM batch felt stronger/made me more productive than 100-150mg. caps of amph I got from Polq1234 or Mercury31 (I still owe him a review, will try and write it today). 4 hours after taking I was feeling good, but decided 'what the hell, I'll just take another 30mg.'.
Now it's 2 hours after redose, and I feel a bit tense (body load that many reports with this product?), but it doesn't bother me. I'm in a good mood, communicative, motivated...
For some reason taking more of the cut speed isn't equal to a dose of pure amphetamine. I was starting to think that I don't like amph anymore, but no, I just don't like commercial speed.
Now I have to see how I'll come down from this.
Edit: on 30+30mg. oral - 85BPM resting, sweating, some muscle tension.
TL;DR
◄ I have tolerance, but I wouldn't take more than 60mg. of current BoyMaster's batch for productivity;
◄ I get body load, but it doesn't bother me yet;
◄ Motivation, elevated mood, productivity, talkativeness;
◄ I still put BM in top tear of amphetamine vendors :)
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(note to BM: the bag I received had a hole in the side, but it's no big deal since it was vacuum packed)
Same! Maybe it's there to dry up speed while in transit?
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Im sorry but BM's stuff doesnt do it for me this time. It's just too much body and not enough head. I mean there is no relief in the head just 'heavyness'. I am still dead tired mentally hours after doing 20-20-10 mg, but with freezing hands and feet. 95-100 bpm. It's like the amph goes to the body instead of the head.
Strangest ever. Batch back in September was solid, but this one feels weak for the head and is too strong for the body. Anyone knows what could be doing this? What is different from the new batch and sep-batch?
Only thing I can think of that would cause that is the product not being synthed correctly. (Too much levroamphetamine)
Instead of a 50-50 levro/dextro ratio like a-phet sulphate should be - it might be more levro, the a-phet that causes the body high.
I have absolutely no idea how that can be done, though.
There are many ways to cook Amphe! Some of them produce more levro and some near 50/50.
For example:
If you used sodium hydroxide you would get 65% R,R and 35% R,S isomers but if you used triethylamine as the catylist you would then get 80% R,S and 20% RR isomers.
(sorry for my bad english)
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(note to BM: the bag I received had a hole in the side, but it's no big deal since it was vacuum packed)
Same! Maybe it's there to dry up speed while in transit?
My BM order finally came in with todays mail (was sent fri 4th, non priority to west EU) and it also had a hole in the bag. It looked to me as if it was deliberately cut. My first thought was also that it was related to the not completely dry consistency of the product but on second thought it might also be because of the vacuum seal. I do remember thinking that this was the most air-free sealed product that I have ever received from SR before I tore open the package :)
Also; my CC order was shipped out yesterday as he said he would. He also left me a message on the main site, apologizing for the delay and explaining the situation again (although I already knew from his reply here). I like that he doesn't just go by his reputation and actually seems to be concerned with all of his customers.
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My review on BM's 4. batch:
Shipment was stealthy enough. The sample and the regular order had different return addresses, which is good. The baggy had a hole as mentioned before, but I had this blue piece of paper over that hole, which probably was there to capture moisture. The solvents took some color from the paper as you can see on the picture: https://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/foto0094j.jpg/
The stuff was kinda wet, drying wasn't as easy as drying paste, took quite some time and is still a little wet. I had 5,165g out of 5,5g left, some is lost on the mirror some on the floor, so approximately 200-300mg vaporized which is roughly 5%. Doesn't really bother me since BM gave me 1,5g for free already ;D. The color is different from the last 2 batches, which where kinda beige/brown - this one is yellowish. Maybe he changed something in the synthesis?
Dried: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/foto0095td.jpg/
Weight: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/foto0096j.jpg/ baggy weights 0,69g and 0,075g already snorted
I went binge mode and snorted ~75mg right away around 13 o'clock and another ~75mg around 18 o'clock, which was way too much after 3 weeks break. I was planning to sleep around 3-4 o'clock, I tried at 8.30 and gave up at 9.30 - still awake :P. I checked my pulse only one time 1 hour after the first line, which was at 92 bpm. I bombed a little to get through the day at 10 o'clock and snorted a small line at 15 o'clock, maybe 50mg combined - current pulse is 108 bpm, which is quite high for doing nothing. I had much fun until the comedown, which was kinda rough, but comparable to binge mode comedown from last batch, although I was so distracted that I forgot to eat.. I don't really see a difference in the effects so far between the last and the current batch - still the bomb!
PS: I know my english sucks^^
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30mg. capsule of BM's speed, prepared another one the same size just in case, and I'm off to work
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4 hours after taking I was feeling good, but decided 'what the hell, I'll just take another 30mg.'.
Now it's 2 hours after redose, and I feel a bit tense (body load that many reports with this product?), but it doesn't bother me. I'm in a good mood, communicative, motivated...
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Edit: on 30+30mg. oral - 85BPM resting, sweating, some muscle tension.
TL;DR
◄ I have tolerance, but I wouldn't take more than 60mg. of current BoyMaster's batch for productivity
Yeah, I'm fine but 70mg might have been a bit adventurous to start with. A bit tense.
Maybe 40-50mg for starters, then a slight redose later, if need be.
It is hard to resist the urge though. Don't we all know...
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10mg doses really blew me away, please be careful people.
The saying "less is more" really is true.
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All sounds good!! My 2g BM ordrer shipped out yesterday, w/priority. Should have it by Saturday. Monday the latest. You guys are getting me very excited !!!
I hope to be getting some extra cash this week, will definitely be stocking up. On BM's + CC's and doing a few "test orders" with some new vendors like AfterHour and HollandOnline
CrystalMethCat turned out SCAMMER as suspected - so I took one for the team there. Check her FB, going down like the Hindenburg. - Dagobert 2g order from Dec 6th is a no show, but I've had so many
perfect transactions, that I'll let it go. I'd even try another order, if he'll throw in something extra for my loss. Either lost in the mail, or stolen by mail workers for personal use.
Has anyone over considered making their own Amph? - There's dealers selling all the chemicals needed, (other than the ones you can usually pick up at the store.
I've watched a few videos, or step by step guides with pictures.
Seems to me, a little studying up on it, and I'd be able to pull it off.
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Normally speed is also speed. Falling into an interval of potency of course where you have stronger speed and weaker speed. And I do think that adderall has more of a whole body experience to it than just pure dextroamphetamine. I do like the semi-intense rush of blood going through the body which is why I prefer adderall to dextro, racemic to dextro. Scale is calibrated and I battle neuron depletion and tolerance with all kind of different supplements.
You know what you're doing and take even more care than me. I had to reply because at the time so few people had received it and it was working well for me but very much not for you. I listed any unlikely possibility just in case but I really thought tolerance/recent meth. So if it's not that then what is it? I do not know and the more details you give the less I know.
Have you, or anyone else, tried n-acetylcysteine(NAC)? Only heard of it recently and not tried it yet, isn't mentioned as often as most supplements but you can find a few good reports on pubmed + bluelight.
I really want to know if it makes meth or speed feel different mentally? An important question but they never ask the mice and it will decide whether I take it before or after to protect or recover!
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The stuff was kinda wet, drying wasn't as easy as drying paste, took quite some time and is still a little wet. I had 5,165g out of 5,5g left, some is lost on the mirror some on the floor, so approximately 200-300mg vaporized which is roughly 5%. Doesn't really bother me since BM gave me 1,5g for free already ;D. The color is different from the last 2 batches, which where kinda beige/brown - this one is yellowish. Maybe he changed something in the synthesis?
How long did it take for your stuff to dry? I put my 2g on a large plate of glass half a day ago (chopping it with a razor blade every now and then) and although it seems quite a bit dryer it still has the curious waxy texture which makes it a bit sticky. Not sure if that texture is even supposed to go away though. Anyone got this stuff to be bone-dry?
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The stuff was kinda wet, drying wasn't as easy as drying paste, took quite some time and is still a little wet. I had 5,165g out of 5,5g left, some is lost on the mirror some on the floor, so approximately 200-300mg vaporized which is roughly 5%. Doesn't really bother me since BM gave me 1,5g for free already ;D. The color is different from the last 2 batches, which where kinda beige/brown - this one is yellowish. Maybe he changed something in the synthesis?
How long did it take for your stuff to dry? I put my 2g on a large plate of glass half a day ago (chopping it with a razor blade every now and then) and although it seems quite a bit dryer it still has the curious waxy texture which makes it a bit sticky. Not sure if that texture is even supposed to go away though. Anyone got this stuff to be bone-dry?
I did not put too much effort into it, just chopped it a few times during an hour and put it back in the open baggy. BM's last batch came pretty much bone dry though and his 2nd batch had few very hard clumps, maybe he will give us an explanation.
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quit speeding 2 days ago, again
one thing, i got the fucking itches, like creepy crawly crawling on me need to itch that shit quick, skin is turning red, doesn't happen all the time but if i ignore it the tingling gets pretty intense :-[
hi,
is this a withdraw symptom or do you mean you quit because you got that during on amphetamine?
get well.
Yeah, itching from withdrawal. After I stop amphetamine, 2 days later I got the itches, still got them
arghh!
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Dried: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/foto0095td.jpg/
Holy cow, imageshack sucks, loads half the web before showing the picture.
Use imgur.com
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The stuff was kinda wet, drying wasn't as easy as drying paste, took quite some time and is still a little wet. I had 5,165g out of 5,5g left, some is lost on the mirror some on the floor, so approximately 200-300mg vaporized which is roughly 5%. Doesn't really bother me since BM gave me 1,5g for free already ;D. The color is different from the last 2 batches, which where kinda beige/brown - this one is yellowish. Maybe he changed something in the synthesis?
How long did it take for your stuff to dry? I put my 2g on a large plate of glass half a day ago (chopping it with a razor blade every now and then) and although it seems quite a bit dryer it still has the curious waxy texture which makes it a bit sticky. Not sure if that texture is even supposed to go away though. Anyone got this stuff to be bone-dry?
colorless = pure Amphetamine Base (liquid)
white = Amphetaminehydrochlorid (salt)
yellow = Amphetaminesulfat (salt. the color comes from the elementary reduced sulfur)
pink = Amphetaminephosphat (salt. pink because excessive phosphorus not washed)
green = Amphetamine-HCL /-SO4 /- PO4 (green because metal residues (catalyst))
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So I received my BM order today. Looks damp as expected from a fresh batch, but it is, in my opinion, exactly like last time. What is strange though, after the last batch dried out, sucking it up left the cotton completely encased in a yellow powder that didn't dissolve in the water. This time, it completely dissolves, so it maybe has less adulterant? The feeling is exactly the same. It is amazing how much more I can handle when I inject it, must be because it is skipping the first metabolism you get from orally ingesting it. BM does it again!
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no one has received from CC yet? ???
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I hope to be getting some extra cash this week, will definitely be stocking up. On BM's + CC's and doing a few "test orders" with some new vendors like AfterHour and HollandOnline
hi Jagflug
please come to our Sr mail please...we will make you a good deal... if you like...
but no..we are not the kinda seller who is buying good stats with free samples.....we are not in that league.....as some have found out already in communications with us on Sr mail...
We seek regular customers small and bigger...we will exclude all other....we don't wanna be the biggest vendor here...we would like to be among the best...
Thank you for reading and your time.
Sincerely yours,
HollandOnline
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Hoping my order from HollandOnline arrives tomorrow, got AfghanApothecary's today in the mail; dried it out and looking forward to testing it on Saturday.
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no one has received from CC yet? ???
CC started shipping last week IIRC, so I don't expect anyone to receive until the end of this week. My order went out Thursday of last week but seeing as my last orders took 8 and 11 days I don't expect anything until this weekend. I have some other stuff that was sent from SA and it is still not here over a week later. My BM order took over a week, despite being priority. It seems the mail is slow these days.
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Got some dexedrine from ComeOnEileen yesterday as have some exams looming. Really good clean stuff. Have two 14 hour days put down in the library so far. Would suggest it to anyone looking for that kind of stuff in europe.
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If he/she is selling dexedrine pills/tablets, its pretty difficult for it not to be clean given it comes from a pharmacy :P
Still waiting on orders from CC and Evilution. Hopefully they will come in soon.
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Seven days and still nothing from BM :( Keeping my fingers crossed that it'll arrive before the weekend.
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Seven days and still nothing from BM :( Keeping my fingers crossed that it'll arrive before the weekend.
Out of curiosity, did you choose Priority' Shipping? Are you located in the US? When was it sent out? I wouldn't worry before 10 days. After that point, every day it doesn't arrive is more and more unfortunate that it might not arrive. However, don't lose faith. If you are in the US, the shipping is just so slow that I wouldn't worry about it. He has very discrete shipping and was surprised when the small envelope I had received perfectly concealed 10g! If you are in Europe and still haven't received it then I would wait a few more days before doing anything. Once you finally get the product it is well worth the wait :).
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BM's speed kicked my ass, and I only did ~100mg. so far.
Two things:
♦fuck pulling allnighters for no reason
♦fuck snorting speed. I only snorted like 20mg. and now my nose is leaking liquid non-stop.
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Seven days and still nothing from BM :( Keeping my fingers crossed that it'll arrive before the weekend.
Out of curiosity, did you choose Priority' Shipping? Are you located in the US? When was it sent out? I wouldn't worry before 10 days. After that point, every day it doesn't arrive is more and more unfortunate that it might not arrive. However, don't lose faith. If you are in the US, the shipping is just so slow that I wouldn't worry about it. He has very discrete shipping and was surprised when the small envelope I had received perfectly concealed 10g! If you are in Europe and still haven't received it then I would wait a few more days before doing anything. Once you finally get the product it is well worth the wait :).
I'm in Europe, and didn't choose priority shipping. The postal service have been kind of slow lately, so that's probably the reason :)
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Strange.
While i ordered there wasn't a option for priority shipping.
M's speed kicked my ass, and I only did ~100mg. so far.
Two things:
♦fuck pulling allnighters for no reason
♦fuck snorting speed. I only snorted like 20mg. and now my nose is leaking liquid non-stop.
How was bodyload and come down for you? Everything fine?
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Yeah this fresh batch has a very potent smell. The smell is EXACTLY how speed should smell -- I hadn't smelled it in a while and it brought back nostalgia lol. It is also very acidic as the taste from the solvent is really really bitter and definitely hard on the nose. I suggest another ROA -- IV is so great with this stuff its so hard for me to use it any other way :-/
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Seven days and still nothing from BM :( Keeping my fingers crossed that it'll arrive before the weekend.
Out of curiosity, did you choose Priority' Shipping? Are you located in the US? When was it sent out? I wouldn't worry before 10 days. After that point, every day it doesn't arrive is more and more unfortunate that it might not arrive. However, don't lose faith. If you are in the US, the shipping is just so slow that I wouldn't worry about it. He has very discrete shipping and was surprised when the small envelope I had received perfectly concealed 10g! If you are in Europe and still haven't received it then I would wait a few more days before doing anything. Once you finally get the product it is well worth the wait :).
I'm in Europe, and didn't choose priority shipping. The postal service have been kind of slow lately, so that's probably the reason :)
Don't panic, my non priority order to western EU was shipped on friday the 4th and took a whopping 11 days to arrive.
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Seven days and still nothing from BM :( Keeping my fingers crossed that it'll arrive before the weekend.
Out of curiosity, did you choose Priority' Shipping? Are you located in the US? When was it sent out? I wouldn't worry before 10 days. After that point, every day it doesn't arrive is more and more unfortunate that it might not arrive. However, don't lose faith. If you are in the US, the shipping is just so slow that I wouldn't worry about it. He has very discrete shipping and was surprised when the small envelope I had received perfectly concealed 10g! If you are in Europe and still haven't received it then I would wait a few more days before doing anything. Once you finally get the product it is well worth the wait :).
I'm in Europe, and didn't choose priority shipping. The postal service have been kind of slow lately, so that's probably the reason :)
Don't panic, my non priority order to western EU was shipped on friday the 4th and took a whopping 11 days to arrive.
Thanks your answer, as you say: no need to panic yet :)
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How was bodyload and come down for you? Everything fine?
No problems with body load. I was sweating and my pulse was 185 after first redose, didn't notice much of that later. I've been awake for ~36 hours now, so not feeling too great. Comedown yesterday evening wasn't bad, but for god-knows-what reason I decided to take some more amph..
I still don't have anything bad to say about BM current batch, just a bit disappointed with myself ;/
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It is also very acidic as the taste from the solvent is really really bitter and definitely hard on the nose. I suggest another ROA -- IV is so great with this stuff its so hard for me to use it any other way :-/
Yesterday, when I rubbed some under my tongue, I could swear the area went numb for a minute. I'd love to hear what the people who plug it (read: stick it up their ass) have to say...
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I have preformed amphetamine wash what I got from one SR vendor like I told I will. Have itentions to get caffeine free speed. I wont name vendor because I am a vendor too and think that is uwise.
As in my earlier post; caffeine is 8 times more soluble in chloroform then in aceton and I have acces to to dry chloroform and ether. Caffeine solubility in acetone is 1g/50ml vs 1g/6ml solubility in the chloroform.
I need to dry amphetamine completly before washing.
Weight after drying:500 mg
After chloroform wash: 370 mg
After ether wash: 310 mg
I am using ether to clean it even more with ether soluble chemicals (amphetamine sulfate is not ether soluble).
Consider the fact that chloroform and ether cleaned and other chemicals which are soluble in both solvent.
If I had biger amount at this point would be best to preform acid-base extraction and get a lot cleaner product, almost pure. But with this small sample, AB extraction would be pointless. If you wonder why not preform AB extraction in the first place, without need of washing? - its because caffeine is alkaloid what undergo same freebase<->salt conversion as amphetamine, so that is why caffeine must be removed first by solubility manipulations. There is other methods but it may be complicated now to explain. This is for caffeine clean up.
If you do a wash amphetamine sulfate with dry acetone and want to clean, let say 10g amphetamine, do not use less then 250ml of acetone and stir solution for longer time (30min or more), wash more then once is preferable.
Remember, use dry solvents (acetone,chloroform, ether) because amphetamine sulfate is water soluble.
Alcohols are not suitable for caffeine cleanup!
Distinctive speed smell disapeared and its white powder, maybe slightly off and yellowish (I am sure that if I washed it more then once would resulted white odorless powder).Slightly yellowish color can be result of amine oxidation and this is trivial issue. Amphetamine effects are way better then before, no bodyload and feel euphoria and sutisfaction in the head:) Even I am used to large daily amounts of caffeine, speed cuted with caffeine give me unpleasant feeling,nausea, maybe due caffeine ROA (caffeine snorting compared with oral consumption)? Dont know why caffeine affect differently.
Anyway, will spread good karma to all of you nice people :)
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It looks like BM didn't arrive this time within EU. Damn :/
At least I got Powerade's liquid, so I eat that for the stll-no-BM-depression.
Hopefully CC will make it over here.
~Q~
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im gagging for my cc order
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That is very interesting about the wash results in terms of the change in effects on the body. After washing the euphoria returns? I don't get much euphoria off BM which is why I like to have CC around, but I wonder if washing BM will change its effects?
I have another order from BM sent non-priority and can only imagine that it will take 11 days to arrive, ugh. Also, the other orders from SA I made have not arrived yet, that is 9 days, so I am assuming CCs will take 10-11 days total.
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4 grams ordered from Cape Crusader. Here's hoping my morning coffee can have a little taste of South Africa soon.
Further observations about BoyMaster's new batch: this is one of the most powerful appetite suppressants I've ever come across. It doesn't just take away hunger, it makes me retch at the very idea of eating. Since the Grand Wizard could stand to lose a few pounds this isn't entirely a bad thing, but I may pick up some Ensure shakes until this bag runs out. The Wiz is whizzing very nicely, and can give BM's speed the highest (if not hungriest) marks.
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A lot of people mix speed into their coffee on this thread I've noticed..
Coffee is acidic and the previous discussions a couple pages back makes me think it's definitely worthwhile to raise your body's pH while ingesting amphetamines to get the best bang for your buck, right (w/a spoonful of sodium dicarbonate or something similar)? I can't recall the increase in absorption, but it is not a negligible amount from what I remember.
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Received from our beloved BoyMaster.....Yes, boy he mastered the art of amphetamine sulphate.
Double reagent approved. I wouldn't argue with someone saying it is 99%+ pure amphetamine sulphate.
Looks and tastes to be more pure than some of the generic amphetamine pharmaceutical companies here in the US.
Post mark date was around 5 days after he had marked it shipped in SR. Took about 7 days to jump the pond.
Very nice packaging. The only thing that could ever be a problem is if it doesn't get changed often (Really only slight changes like return address, size, ). Much better than years past packaging from him.
I wasn't a big fan of receiving wet product. Took a bit of work to scrape off the container and had me obsessively drying and weighing. After about 4 hours of drying and the majority a fine off white yellow ting was left. The fumes gave me a mild headache.
Weight was right at 10grams with the "500mg" free sample he sent, so I would have been a little annoyed if I hadn't had the extra to make up for the light 10. Either way I am not complaining just trying to find some place for improvement on an otherwise perfect transaction.
Sampled 25mg orally on an empty stomach. Had been two days since having anything other than coffee and bud. Great euphoria after 45 minutes, very talkative. A little edgy around the house mate...probably still too high of a starting dose. I have been taking amphetamine (Mostly pharm) on and off for 10 years.
All this "body load" stuff, I suspect you guys are having a hard time getting past your mental number for the dosage you need. This shit is ridiculously pure. "Less is more" certainly applies IMHO.
Noobs, proceed with caution. Very high purity. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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So how do I "clean" and dry BM's amph? I would like to snort it but consistency and smell make me not want to.
I dissolved it in water and it made the water white-ish but it fully dissolved. this was the most horrible shot I ever drank. it works as advertised though...wouldnt recommend putting it in coffee if you like the taste of coffee.
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So how do I "clean" and dry BM's amph? I would like to snort it but consistency and smell make me not want to.
I dissolved it in water and it made the water white-ish but it fully dissolved. this was the most horrible shot I ever drank. it works as advertised though...wouldnt recommend putting it in coffee if you like the taste of coffee.
Just spread out on a surface you can scrape at the end. Recommend a well ventilated space. About every 30 minutes while sitting out in the air I periodically chop it up. Slowly you will make big clumps into a fine dry white-yellow powder. 10 grams took a while, and is still not as dry as some of my older stuff.
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Just wasted over an hour posting bullshit on the newbie forum to get my 50 posts and now I forgot what I wanted to ask initially.
Something else then...
I believe somebody mentioned it in here before but is there a way to get the waxy texture out of the BM stuff? It's been a few days now of chopping and drying but I can't seem to get rid of that wax texture and it makes my nostrils stick together like glue lol.
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Just wasted over an hour posting bullshit on the newbie forum to get my 50 posts and now I forgot what I wanted to ask initially.
Something else then...
I believe somebody mentioned it in here before but is there a way to get the waxy texture out of the BM stuff? It's been a few days now of chopping and drying but I can't seem to get rid of that wax texture and it makes my nostrils stick together like glue lol.
Don't have the answer, but why do you snort it? Have you tried oral ROA? I find amphetamine so much better taken orally:)
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Received from our beloved BoyMaster.....
Post mark date was around 5 days after he had marked it shipped in SR. Took about 7 days to jump the pond.
That's most disappointing. Was that priority do you recall? Here I am, hoping for "by Saturday" as it was marked in transit Monday 14th. It may work differently in that country, but one would assume
a "postmark" is universal, as proof of the day the letter/parcel was given to the post office. .... :Psighs.... The things we put up with for speed.
My previous transactions with BM a few months back took sometimes less than 7 days. Though his "crew" may have changed.
Just another impatient speed lover here. :-\
After being flat out ripped off by CrystalMethCat for 1g, then to have Dagobert 2g order never make it. I lowered myself to some overpriced (as usual) Adderall from the college kids on SR.
That bought me about 4-5 days of normalcy. Now it's back to feeling blue. Life sucks without speed.
I'm going to put in an order with CC whenever my settlement check gets here. Something else to wait for in the mail! :-\
I don't know why it takes certain vendors so long, while others super fast. I can get benzos from Hungary in less than a week to US. Shit, he's done it in 4 days! - How can he do it but others cant??
That postmark 5 days after marking in transit really makes me sad. :(
In a few weeks, I should have about 100 btc to play with. I will be ordering for long term supply. Still I will spread out my orders, for two reasons.
1.) I like getting things in the mail - kind of a whole other addiction ???
2.) You never know when you're favorite vendor is going to go AWOL
Just some random thoughts on a depressing chilly January morning. - Looks like 5 hour energy and some coffee for me today. Ho- Hum - Get some beer, I have some benzos, Go jam with an old bandmate of mine, just get downed out, and play some sloppy drunk blues.
Enjoy your speed, and use it sparingly! - Remember how I feel right now~! LoL - Pretty sad. :-\
Peace - as always
jagfug
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I think BM said there was a shipping delay due to a Postal Strike in Spain? It's possible now that his shipments are getting out of the country much quicker.
I thought Canada had great ICE pills? I'm amazed that North America doesn't have a great amp supplier.
It'll be there soon Jagfug! Remember that when you're singing the Postman blues 8)
Edit: Come to think of it, your shit day sounds absolutely amazing hahaa I was feeling real heartbreak for you too. Beer and friends making music, that's what people look forward toooo!!!!! ahahah talk about pushing the envelope the wrong way! Oh wait, sorry :P ;D
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Don't have the answer, but why do you snort it? Have you tried oral ROA? I find amphetamine so much better taken orally:)
I completely agree, and lots of times I take the amph orally but I also like to snort from time to time. It's just something I enjoy, weird enough I like the feeling in my nose, and the whole ritual around it.
Also, I try to take small doses (I'm terrified to take too much at once and get freaky when I'm around other people) and then re-dose with little key bumps if I don't like the effect yet. So depending on the location it's not always convenient to use it orally.
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I think BM said there was a shipping delay due to a Postal Strike in Spain? It's possible now that his shipments are getting out of the country much quicker.
I thought Canada had great ICE pills? I'm amazed that North America doesn't have a great amp supplier.
It'll be there soon Jagfug! Remember that when you're singing the Postman blues 8)
Edit: Come to think of it, your shit day sounds absolutely amazing hahaa I was feeling real heartbreak for you too. Beer and friends making music, that's what people look forward toooo!!!!! ahahah talk about pushing the envelope the wrong way! Oh wait, sorry :P ;D
+1 Karma for helping me see the light! :)
Those Canadian Ice Pills seem to be horded be a select few Vendors, probably a motorcycle gang . Believe it or not, there are Canadian motorcycle gangs...lol -
Also they are super expensive~! - Might as well buy Adderall from these college kids - some are getting $20+ USD for a 30MG IR Pill !!! - Ridiculous. If I wanted to bust my hump, go find a new shrink, get adderall prescribed. - I'd get 60 30mg Adderall and my copay would be $2.60 on Medicare. I really should go find a new shrink. My last one got sick and is in hospice. So hard to find a new one.
Anyway, thanks for helping me realize it ain't so bad.
Peace
jagfug
PS Shamiroqai - I'm the same way. - I like the "ritual de lo habitual" of snorting. - and for me, the baking soda and water 1/2 hour before dosing is a night and day difference. Could be because I take a lot of Vitamin C, especially with this flu going around. I take 1000mg Emergence-C 3X a day. - Whether snorting or swallowing, your body's ph makes all the difference. It does for this hombre anyway! :o
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So my BM sample arrived today. It arrived 2 days after my priority shipped order came that I placed after samples were sent. The priority to west coast of the US was 8 days, so the sample must have taken much longer. My order from SA (not CC) arrived today too, so shipping from SA to US is currently taking about 10 days which is normal.
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come on postman bring me fucking CC order please god :-X
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i already got the new BM stuff (it's real fire) and CCs coming in the next days...
when it arrives the following weekend will be quite sleepless ;)
CAN NOT WAIT
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Oh shit! It actually was my second BM order and not a sample! No priority this time and it arrived in the exact same time, 8 days to west coast US. Go figure.
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Also ordered from BM and CC yesterday. Ordered 2 weeks ago from six6one but order seems to be lost :( but six6one was very nice gave me instant refund without me asking for that. Will update once anything turns up.
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Ordered one gram speed from Evilution. I cannot ellaborate on shipment time because I simply forgot when it arrived. If I have to guess it took about one week to Western Europe. Seller contact was easy, quick and polite. Seller responded a few hours after order placement. Had to FE to meet the sellers requirements.
The content was packaged neat and appropriate. The plastics containing the goods weight in at about 1180mg. The speed was not wet but slightly moist and had a chunky consistency. It had an intense smell and faint pink glow to it. Emptying and scraping the plastics for every last bit resulted in a weight of 750mg which is 250mg short. One rinse with acetone resulted in a weight of 440mg odourless white fluffy powder.
I have no remarks on quality since it is my first time using speed. Also I am not intended to use it recreationally but only functional. Dosage will be kept low. Since I received 250mg short I have notified the seller. The seller neatly responded within 2 or 3 hours, apologized, gave a probable reason and offered an appropriate solution. I am not really worried about the short. I only gave some feedback so the seller has something to work with and maybe can improve his service. All in all a pleasurable transaction with this seller.
I really would like to try some CC or BM gear, but damn those fees are interesting to say the least! ;)
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Today I just got no effect on BM, shouldnt have much tolerance still :/ oral 40mg, then snorted 20mg as I wasn't feeling any rush or head high just a mild bump in heartrate.. 1 hour after that i snorted 50mg to really fucking get something going but niiet.
Last night I took etizolam to sleep but it had been 12 hours since that dose n etizolam is short half life. Still, I wonder if it has some kinda hangover cancelling effect i dno.. even if it did it shouldn't stop a total of 110 mg in space of 3-4 hours.
sigh my brain is broken i guess.. didnt get talkative at all which was a bummer since I talked to a girl and i just didn't have the fluency even cup of coffee would giev me (for 30 minutes until i caffeine crash n turn into a wreck)
Probably need another 1 week of being clean.. best order some cc gear too,
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Today I just got no effect on BM, shouldnt have much tolerance still :/ oral 40mg, then snorted 20mg as I wasn't feeling any rush or head high just a mild bump in heartrate.. 1 hour after that i snorted 50mg to really fucking get something going but niiet.
Last night I took etizolam to sleep but it had been 12 hours since that dose n etizolam is short half life. Still, I wonder if it has some kinda hangover cancelling effect i dno.. even if it did it shouldn't stop a total of 110 mg in space of 3-4 hours.
sigh my brain is broken i guess.. didnt get talkative at all which was a bummer since I talked to a girl and i just didn't have the fluency even cup of coffee would giev me (for 30 minutes until i caffeine crash n turn into a wreck)
Probably need another 1 week of being clean.. best order some cc gear too,
You're probably right. - I've only had 3-4 30 mg adderall in the past 3 weeks to keep me sane, there were 5 but I had to share them with a "friend" who gets too fucked up on benzos So I had to "bring him up to speed". :-*
I remember my 2nd order from BM in September, and asking what changed. He said "Nothing except your tolerance" - I was an inexperienced user, and still to this day, I never measure any dose. - I do measure received amount, and have a digital scale,. But once I got "the shit" I aint measuring no pussy 30mg's. I'm cutting a line and snorting it.
Though my smarter alter ego tells me to measure and put in caps. At least I take the baking soda and water prior to snorting or swallowing.
Tolerance got you down?? - Try Baking Soda - 1/4 teaspoon in a juice glass of water. Empty stomach. - 12 hours minimum. Swallow that baking soda and water, and if you're snorting, take two fingers and dip it in the water and snort it to get your sinuses at the right ph. - I'm telling you, it renews your tolerance. (not really, it just means you're an acidy guy like me)
Anyway, I hope it helps- Imagine being me? - No speed on hand! Just a few beers and a few Xanax. I feel way too normal. - It's scary!!!
Peace
jagfug 8)
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Rant: this newbe-thing post count thing really sucks a golfball through a gardenhose ._. I can see how it's usefull because it's harder for vendors to make fake accounts and write positive reviews about themselves now but there's also a lot of users who don't post a lot, but who do have some usefull information to share. Like the guy (sorry, forgot your username..) here who only posts lab results every now and then. Or vendors for one.
On topic: Amphetamine seems to dehydrate me quite a lot. Last time I lost a little over 2kgs of weight (out of 65kg normal body weight) in 1,5 days of speeding and I ended up with a major headache despite drinking loads and loads of water all the time and eating small meals regularly. I don't do weird shit like dance for hours on end or something like that either so I'm not sure where the problem lies. It's as if all the water passes straight through me, along with some extra.
Anyway; I was thinking of drinking sports drinks or rehydratation salts mixed with water this weekend; see if that makes a difference. I know the rehydration salts work very well for me when I'm sober (I once got very dehydrated when I was seriously ill) so I suspect that it will work but on the other hand I don't want it to kill my roll of course. Which is probably not the case, but all the recent talk about body PH and stuff got me wondering. I lack the biology knowledge myself and I can't seem to find anything about it on google so.. any thoughts on this anyone?
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Still nothing from BM. Non-priority mail within EU. Sent 7th january, so 9 days (excluding the weekend). I'm guessing customs got mine. Consequence: I now have a very clean house, no contraband at all. "Just in case...". I'm still hopeful it will turn up though :) Just wanted to share if someone was curious. Cheers.
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Still nothing from BM. Non-priority mail within EU. Sent 7th january, so 9 days (excluding the weekend). I'm guessing customs got mine. Consequence: I now have a very clean house, no contraband at all. "Just in case...". I'm still hopeful it will turn up though :) Just wanted to share if someone was curious. Cheers.
Well I'm in the same boat, and being that mine was marked "in transit" Monday Jan 14, I had hopes of by this weekend to US East Coast! - I have faith it will come, but MAN!! - After CrystalMethCat went scammer- or just had a lot of "lost orders" - then dagobert - whom I've done 4 or 5 great orders with, my friend also, never showed up - 2g speed. - I am losing faith in all of Silk Road.
My friend ordered from Dagobert on Dec 29th - Nothing yet. - Not sure what's going on, but the Silk Road sucks for us lately. - Time to go ask dagobert what's up. -
I wonder if because of all the media attention in different countries the past year, has made postal workers more "nosy". Not necessarily customs. Just workers looking for drugs for themselves. My money is on that scenario. They could even be customers, who work near the vendors they order from, and know how their envelopes look.
I figured out what post office one of my orders came from, by another german vendor, from the postmark.
Whatever it is, I can hypothesize on and on. I still have no speed. Not an adderall, Guess I'll go take some herbalife caffeine and gurana mix. This depression sucks.
Winter blues. .. . :'(
Peace
jagfug
PS. Don't forget Chocolate MLK day! Another day off for the already overpaid US Postal Workers Union !! >:( >:( >:( >:( Think the "N" word will be said a lot that day.
Not for any true racist reasons. I mean if the guy was a ginger, red headed dude, I'd be cursing "Fuckin Carrot Top headed bastard"!! ;D >:( ;D >:( :( :-\ :'(
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One thing that kept bothering me after washing speed with aceton is how ultra fine and dry the powder becomes. It's almost impossible to snort it without half of it going straight to the throat and right to the lungs.
Now, even though I am a smoker I don't wanna do even more harm to my lungs and I can't imagine breathing in amphetamine dust is a very healthy thing to do. Plus it makes you cough like hell. Not pleasant at all.
So at first the only possibility was to use the washed amphetamine for oral use only, be it in capsules or mixing in a drink and keep the snorting for BM/CC stuff and amph I don't wash. That's fine for me but since I like snorting too I was looking around on the internet about this matter and I came across a very interesting way to snort powdery things with minimal to no damage to the lungs. Yet it's a very simple method and I don't know why I didn't think of this myself.
Anyway, here's the method:
You take one of those cocktail straws you can bend on one side and cut them to a size comfortable for you.
You fill it up with the stuff you laid out on your mirror, plate or whatever you use. You dump it all in the straw (this works best with a piece of paper rolled in a cone).
One end in your mouth, other in your nose, blow in the straw and voilà, shoots straight up the nose and stays in the nose!! Of course you still have the drip in your throat but nothing in the lungs.
pure genius!!
EDIT: @ Jagfug: are there no speed vendors on SR operating from the USA at all?
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One thing that kept bothering me after washing speed with aceton is how ultra fine and dry the powder becomes. It's almost impossible to snort it without half of it going straight to the throat and right to the lungs.
Now, even though I am a smoker I don't wanna do even more harm to my lungs and I can't imagine breathing in amphetamine dust is a very healthy thing to do. Plus it makes you cough like hell. Not pleasant at all.
So at first the only possibility was to use the washed amphetamine for oral use only, be it in capsules or mixing in a drink and keep the snorting for BM/CC stuff and amph I don't wash. That's fine for me but since I like snorting too I was looking around on the internet about this matter and I came across a very interesting way to snort powdery things with minimal to no damage to the lungs. Yet it's a very simple method and I don't know why I didn't think of this myself.
Anyway, here's the method:
You take one of those cocktail straws you can bend on one side and cut them to a size comfortable for you.
You fill it up with the stuff you laid out on your mirror, plate or whatever you use. You dump it all in the straw (this works best with a piece of paper rolled in a cone).
One end in your mouth, other in your nose, blow in the straw and voilà, shoots straight up the nose and stays in the nose!! Of course you still have the drip in your throat but nothing in the lungs.
pure genius!!
EDIT: @ Jagfug: are there no speed vendors on SR operating from the USA at all?
Not that I know of. If there is, "Let him speak now!" - LOL
I read an even easier way to do what you want, and that is to take an empty nasal spray bottle, and make a mixture up + put it in there. Could even use saline solution to keep the ph karma going.
I forget who to thank for that one, and I'm too lazy to look back a few weeks ago, but you know who you are. - Send me some speed and I'll look it up. Now? The dishes in the sink seem like an impossibility.
There was one speed vendor/scammer named "LetGoOfYourEgo" who was stupid enough to use the same forum name on here "before" becoming a vendor. It was around the height of the first Boymaster wave. He even said, I'm gonna try out that boymaster stuff, I found all of the forum stuff later. He obviously bought from BM, stepped on it like 90%. . It had the slight taste of BM stuff with a dirty socks smell to the rest. God only knows what I was snorting. Felt a slight pick up, then nothing. BM's stuff came the next day, and I threw away over half a gram of garbage.
Then I read a lot of FB after me about how it was bunk, and stepped to shit. - So that's been my one and only experience with a US speed vendor. Thankfully it looks like he never broke even, as far as vendor fee, commission, vs orders sold. He was from New Hampshire, US.
All summer long and into the fall, I had nothing but good luck with Coke from dagobert, speed from BM and PE (who no longer ships to US :'( )
Like my friend says. "It's all a crapshoot."
The only "Speed" you can buy US to US is adderall, and it's weaker cousin dexedrine - All WAAAYY OVERPRICED!!!! --- Sorry, I had to yell. Most of that is High School and College kids, selling shit their parents insurance or medicaid pays for, and they sell it to support their weed habit. Dirty little fuckers. 1 30mg Adderall for $20 American??? It's getting as bad as Oxycontin. Thank God I got off that shit! Might as well buy coke or heroin. More bang for the buck!
If you come across one, any of you. Please let old jagfug know!- Otherwise, it's the land of my fathers that will be supplying my speed! 8)
Peace
jagfug
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I read an even easier way to do what you want, and that is to take an empty nasal spray bottle, and make a mixture up + put it in there. Could even use saline solution to keep the ph karma going.
I forget who to thank for that one, and I'm too lazy to look back a few weeks ago, but you know who you are. - Send me some speed and I'll look it up. Now?
No need to look it up, it was me lol.
Once, when I was still adventurous I decided to take a year off and traveled to the US where I met this nice girl, got married and spend something like 10 years of my life living in Chicago.
Then things started to go downhill, divorce, blablabla and now I'm back home in good 'ole Europe living a peaceful life with my girl and my lovely baby daughters (yea, yea, using drugs is bad parenting) but I remember when we lived there basically ALL drugs were fucking expensive, even for something as common as weed, the prices were outrageous (for low quality shit on top of it all) and the sellers were always very shady people.
On a side note: it kind of worries me that already after 1,5 month of using amph on a regular base (not daily though) my tolerance is increasing by alot. Few weeks ago 1 toothpick size line was enough to keep me going for hours and today I snorted a 100mg line of Evilution (looks like a GIGANTIC line in comparison to the toothpick) to get me buzzing after I already dumped some in my my coffee this morning.
On another side note: I've tried some BM stuff earlier this week and also didn't feel clearheaded/euphoric at all (tried many doses, up to 80mg, wont go over that cuz my heart was racing) but VERY awake though! So I'm gonna use BM for getting things done and the other stuff for recreational use.
I don't know why I'm typing all this or what's the point of it but ok. I guess I feel your pain about the availability of good stuff.
EDIT: Typing this make my mind wandering, I rarely think back at that period, but those 10 years were amazing. I remember I used to hate Americans with a passion, from what I saw on TV they were all dumb and fake but oh boy, quickly I found out how warm and welcoming and open you guys and girls are (well, most of you lol). My ex-father-in-law treated me like his own son from the first day, helped me getting a supernice job and I've made so many friends and had such a good time. Too bad it all watered down when time passed by but I'm not complaining or regretting anything. When things were over with, it was all on good terms and no sadness, shitty stuff and all that crap was involved like it usually goes when two people split up. Living in the USA changed me in a good way and definitely made me into the person I am now.
Buzzing real nice now, my thoughts are racing so enough with the typing :D
One last edit: Since nowadays the only English I use is on forums and never using it "live" anymore, I notice my grammar and vocabulary is back down to high school level and especially on speed it's getting difficult to construct readable sentences.
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I read an even easier way to do what you want, and that is to take an empty nasal spray bottle, and make a mixture up + put it in there. Could even use saline solution to keep the ph karma going.
I forget who to thank for that one, and I'm too lazy to look back a few weeks ago, but you know who you are. - Send me some speed and I'll look it up. Now?
No need to look it up, it was me lol.
Once, when I was still adventurous I decided to take a year off and traveled to the US where I met this nice girl, got married and spend something like 10 years of my life living in Chicago.
Then things started to go downhill, divorce, blablabla and now I'm back home in good 'ole Europe living a peaceful life with my girl and my lovely baby daughters (yea, yea, using drugs is bad parenting) but I remember when we lived there basically ALL drugs were fucking expensive, even for something as common as weed, the prices were outrageous (for low quality shit on top of it all) and the sellers were always very shady people.
On a side note: it kind of worries me that already after 1,5 month of using amph on a regular base (not daily though) my tolerance is increasing by alot. Few weeks ago 1 toothpick size line was enough to keep me going for hours and today I snorted a 100mg line of Evilution (looks like a GIGANTIC line in comparison to the toothpick) to get me buzzing after I already dumped some in my my coffee this morning.
On another side note: I've tried some BM stuff earlier this week and also didn't feel clearheaded/euphoric at all (tried many doses, up to 80mg, wont go over that cuz my heart was racing) but VERY awake though! So I'm gonna use BM for getting things done and the other stuff for recreational use.
I don't know why I'm typing all this or what's the point of it but ok. I guess I feel your pain about the availability of good stuff.
LMAO - it WAS you!!!! - I thought, wait a minute, wasn't it him? - (self doubt-sign of depression-speed withdrawal)-- Then I thought, "No, if it was him, why would he be thinking of this crazy straw shit going in his nose and out his ear" - or whatever it was.
Sounds like you're speeding pretty good to me!
You're so used to it, you don't even realize you're on it !!!
I miss that. - The only positive with me is, the longer I abstain, the better those first few days will be.
Then it's back to super fast tolerance. You are not alone. - I thought benzos were bad, then I thought opiates were.
Then I discovered speed/amph, after adderall, at the ripe age of 49! - My tolerance grew on a daily basis.
I went from being prescirbed 2 -10mg IR/s a day, went back two weeks later after I ran out of them, He then gave me 60 30mg IR's - to take half every 6 hours, until I reach the right dose.
I went through those 60 in two weeks. - Then I found Silk Road. - The rest is history.
Fastest tolerance build of any drug, and I've tried them all, except that RC crap that started after my generation. Even MDMA sucks, I really don't get it. Have these kids never had good drugs?? - What an awful feeling. - I guess if you have nothing and are bored to tears, yeah then OK. I even did that a few weeks ago when I was out of speed and first going nuts, I had one X pill someone threw in as a sample. - It broke up the boredom, and wasn't terrible, but I don't desire it again.
BTW I just thanked you (+1) ;) lol
Peace
jagfug
PS. Forums acting weird lately, anyone else notice? Smileys gone one minute, back the next. - I can't even upload an avatar that I put down to 25 pixels! - Oh well. At least we can still communicate!
Still, any glitch gives me that slight paranoia that "somebody's messing with the site".
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You're probably right. - I've only had 3-4 30 mg adderall in the past 3 weeks to keep me sane, there were 5 but I had to share them with a "friend" who gets too fucked up on benzos So I had to "bring him up to speed". :-*
I remember my 2nd order from BM in September, and asking what changed. He said "Nothing except your tolerance" - I was an inexperienced user, and still to this day, I never measure any dose. - I do measure received amount, and have a digital scale,. But once I got "the shit" I aint measuring no pussy 30mg's. I'm cutting a line and snorting it.
Though my smarter alter ego tells me to measure and put in caps. At least I take the baking soda and water prior to snorting or swallowing.
Tolerance got you down?? - Try Baking Soda - 1/4 teaspoon in a juice glass of water. Empty stomach. - 12 hours minimum. Swallow that baking soda and water, and if you're snorting, take two fingers and dip it in the water and snort it to get your sinuses at the right ph. - I'm telling you, it renews your tolerance. (not really, it just means you're an acidy guy like me)
Anyway, I hope it helps- Imagine being me? - No speed on hand! Just a few beers and a few Xanax. I feel way too normal. - It's scary!!!
Peace
jagfug 8)
Yea you should definitely measure your doses there. Makes you aware of your tolerance gain and lets you tweak your doses just right- and lets you know when it's time to take a break. (right now I'm figuring the only doses that'll do me are gonna be too high so lay off time- i haven't been using long continually, only a few days though.. :))
The reason is probably a minor phenibut WD but should be normal in a day since I didn't use it long, but it does effect dopamine.. Still though shouldn't have that much impact.
I do have a type of mild ADD (both my cousins have ADHD) that perhaps causes me to respond differently to certain sulfates (as per my different non response to BM and just enough good from CC)
Still, i would expect some kind of dopaminergic effect- I took 140mg evilution orally 5 hours ago, there wasn't much other than what felt like caffeine stimulation. In 140mg there's quite possibly a cup of coffee equivelant amount and I don't have caffeine tolerance. I felt the nasty caffeine crash after only 2 hours. My blood pressure is below normal as usual (117/74). Got that insignificant tachycardia of 112 bpm.. but to what worth when I'm not even amped.
How much does everyone else need of Evil's gear to feel it? cause I read positive reviews of it. No way am I snorting it since it caused nosebleed last time..
I'll take a few days until I'm totally fine but, regardless I will not be able to take this caffeine stuff.
If only I had waited few days for CC listings to come up.. but I hadn't done speed for like 20 days and was really itching for some. I also have a big bag of powerade but someone said that has even more caffeine in it so I'm reluctant to go there before I learn how to wash it.
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jaguk and shamiroqai you both have used powerade and evilution right?
Which one has the best amph and least amount caffeine?
I read shamiroqai post where Powerade aceton wash of dry 8.17g lost 1.6g weight while Evilution 4.11g lost 1.25g weight meaning evilution lost almost twice the waste.. but it doesn't necessarily make it all caffeine.. what do you think? still, makes me wonder what that 25% of weight is.... right now I'm having mild visual distortions, It's not from sleep deprivation as I only woke up 6 hours ago, I've had a full meal (no problem eating 4 hours after)..but objects at an armslength away are breathing, morphing (it's only feint 6 hours after 140mg oral.
Right now I am looking at an empty glass and it is definitely morphing , a box is breathing (increasing in size by 10% then shrinking... Quite strange as I don't have dilated pupils... oh now on a tube of toothpaste the design of flakes are floating around.. so I'm having definite minor deleriant type hallucinations. Mentally I feel near normal really. Just fucking odd. I doubt it will escalate but I have benzos around so it doesn't matter. I'll jst hit the quit button if this shit gets any weirder....... Must say I am never buying wets again, even if it's the only thing available.. unless I learn how to wash it. The only time I've seen distortions such as these have been on high dose antihistamines and zolpidem so I'm not quite fond of my first and only dose causing this...
Might be that my eyes are tired somehow but I don't know.. I've been awake (no drugs involved) for 50 hours before and not experienced visual distortions.
My vitals are ok, 113/68 (which is a low bp, but my normal bp is 100/65 or so) with 99 bpm....
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There was some discussion earlier about solvent and solubility; can someone summarize the best way to wash amphetamine? Which solvents are best?
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so still no cc orders?
:'(
Still waiting for mine, luckily I have just cracked open a bag of iisthisis dextro
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SCAM
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So here is what I recently have been doing: 80mg BM mixed with 5-10mg midazolam IV. Great combination, the midazolam instantly takes the intense body load away. I think I have found the best benzo, no more painful alprazolam-infused propolene glycol injections like I was doing.
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jaguk and shamiroqai you both have used powerade and evilution right?
Which one has the best amph and least amount caffeine?
I read shamiroqai post where Powerade aceton wash of dry 8.17g lost 1.6g weight while Evilution 4.11g lost 1.25g weight meaning evilution lost almost twice the waste.. but it doesn't necessarily make it all caffeine.. what do you think? still, makes me wonder what that 25% of weight is.... right now I'm having mild visual distortions, It's not from sleep deprivation as I only woke up 6 hours ago, I've had a full meal (no problem eating 4 hours after)..but objects at an armslength away are breathing, morphing (it's only feint 6 hours after 140mg oral.
Right now I am looking at an empty glass and it is definitely morphing , a box is breathing (increasing in size by 10% then shrinking... Quite strange as I don't have dilated pupils... oh now on a tube of toothpaste the design of flakes are floating around.. so I'm having definite minor deleriant type hallucinations. Mentally I feel near normal really. Just fucking odd. I doubt it will escalate but I have benzos around so it doesn't matter. I'll jst hit the quit button if this shit gets any weirder....... Must say I am never buying wets again, even if it's the only thing available.. unless I learn how to wash it. The only time I've seen distortions such as these have been on high dose antihistamines and zolpidem so I'm not quite fond of my first and only dose causing this...
Might be that my eyes are tired somehow but I don't know.. I've been awake (no drugs involved) for 50 hours before and not experienced visual distortions.
My vitals are ok, 113/68 (which is a low bp, but my normal bp is 100/65 or so) with 99 bpm....
Regarding your last two posts. The last decent speed I had was Evilution so it's hard to complain. Though I visited a friend tonight that got his dagobert order after 20 days. (NY's Eve)- That's about right.
I never do the "acetone rinse" and really haven't looked into it, though I'm curious. I know not to get the acetone with 1% water if I ever attempt it. Would I just rinse it like in a coffee filter (or 2 or 3) in a strainer??- Is this just to remove any adulterants??
I had the "old" Powerade gear. I liked what I was getting. That was before the Nov SR blackout. Which was followed by a shakeup at PE headquarters. - I doubt the speed is the same as when I got it, not just based on that one "test". Who did that btw, and was there any way to substantiate the facts? - My bad if it was a trusted and true member.
Anyway, dagobert has very similar smelling speed to what Evilution has. The overall feeling from dagobert today, was very little caffeine. No crash. - In fact if you read my posts from earlier today, I actually had taken some caffeine herbal supplement just to get out of the "no speed" blues.
Those "visuals" you talk about almost sound like they could be caffeine induced. I've worked double and triple shifts in the past, and taken caffeine pills, with Cola, and Coffee, and gotten some of those visuals. - I also think it depends upon whether you've ever tripped on LSD before. - Ever since my LSD experiences of the 70's and 80's, caffeine overdose, combined with sleep deprivation, have given me very similar "visuals" or hallucinations, which is really what you mean. (IMHO of course~!) ;D
I'm just very elated I got some sort of speed in me, knowing that orders are still taking more time than usual.
So I hope I've helped answer any questions.
@ jackintherox - I too have recently tried etizolam which from what I hear is not far from midazolam, though I don't know. I liked the etizolam. Weird enough etizolam is not a controlled substance in the US
as of yet. Imaging that? You could get stopped, and have 5000 pills of etizolam strapped into your passenger seat, and there is nothing they can do about it!
I guess after more posts like this, that will change, but I can't be the only one to realize this.
Either way. I'm happy as a clam tonight. My buddy gave me 1 gram to take home, and I haven't touched it, other than to let it air out a little. It wasn't wet, not even moist. Just fumey.
None of that pink purple-ish hue of Evilution. Though that didn't bother me. See AfterHour vendor page, it has that same hue, I'm giving them a shot when I "go shopping" in a week or two. - Of course CC is priority #1 now that I've got a BM order coming.
Glad to hear everyone has a little something!
Peace
jagfug
PS here's the link to AfterHour
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/065073bbcb
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I have no tolerance to caffeine and the visual distortion has carried on without increasing or decreasing.. Might be the caffeine indeed....
it was Speedie who labtests most stuff and he's trustworthy and in the ballpark. powerade had 17% amph out of 72% and 30% caffeine which is disgusting. He was meant to test the new batch...
anyways i decided to take 85mg powerade in rizla bombed 4.5 hours ago. (it was half ok effects, clouded by caffeine added bodyload for an hour only then hard crash... I could definitely feel a much stronger caffeine effecthan Evilution. I also become very hungry as the caffeine crash hits for me and that's how I know..Started feeling kinda rough n sick.. 30% caffeine is probably still in it. It's a stupid amount and whoever decided to cut that much of the shit in should just wander off naked during a cold night and not stop walking until they're an ice statue.
On etizolam, I popped a mg 3 hours ago because I was feeling uncomfortable due to the caffeine crash (for me caffeine lasts only an hour or so before I crash hard from it.. Etizolam is not really my favourite downer for amph, it will cause dependency and wd in half the time of regular benzos for me (just a week). On it's own it's probably my most favourite benzo due to euphoric effects. Still, it's better than nothing but fortunately I got xanax and diazepam on its way (diazepam is best for muscle relaxation n calming body down, xanax for quick fire anxiety and KO effect).
Anyways be careful not to take etizolam for longer than a few days, it also the only benz for me that causes eyelid twitches after a while, Blepharospasms, if you feel eyelid starts twitchin then its time to stop taking etizolam. Those kinda disorders can become permanent afaik,
which is so stupid because amphetamine lasts way longer so it ruins the amp duration and you become jittery n anxious). i also experienced a few skipped beats (or actually it's when the heart beats twice rapidly but it feels like it skips beat) for first time on amp but it was just a few times so no worries but still... all this horrid caffeine. I hate this shit drug like the plague. Just a cup of coffee on its own leaves me feeling like total shit. I'm gonna have to update feedback and warn about high caffeine content. Evilution definitely has less caffeine than powerade but still a considerable amount that I felt at 140mg oral (but that may have been a large dose).
Then stupidy due to the hunger I drank my protein shake which is NOT good for conjunction with stim use due to the glutamine n all kinds of bcaas that just make me sicko. Will have to buy a gainer shake instead without glutamine.
So, answered by being a test dummy and powerade has considerable amounts of caffeine still. not touching that until I get some aceton. What kind do i have to use? I'm looking on ebay and it's cheap .. like
Pure Acetone industrial solvent 100ml ??
POssible to use the nail polish remover type?
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so still no cc orders?
:'(
Still waiting for mine, luckily I have just cracked open a bag of iisthisis dextro
Here the same and BMs stuff, even after many days of drying, smells so nasty that i still dispute to test it.
Seems iisthisi is the current best way to go.
[spoiler]negative rating incoming :D[/spoiler]
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What kind do i have to use? I'm looking on ebay and it's cheap .. like
Pure Acetone industrial solvent 100ml ??
POssible to use the nail polish remover type?
No! I do believe nail polish remover is not only cut with water, but fragrance and artificial color.
100% is the one thing I do remember gleaning from this board.
@ Tempo
I'm having a difficult time enjoying that smell myself. Dagobert speed has it, the same way Evilution did. - WTF is that solvent???- In all the speed I've tried these past 10 months, I don't recall such a strong fume, almost like Nail Polish remover!! - Is it acetone? Whatever it is, it's annoyingly close. I had three sisters, so I know the nauseating smell all too well. I say had because I killed them all!
Couldn't take the smell!! LoL!
Seriously though, WTF is that??? I'm tempted to hold a lighter above it just to see if it ignites!!! :o :o :o :o
Peace
jagfug
PS. If anyone is bored, or speeding, or just want's some great entertainment. You simply must read this thread. It's about 5 pages, and I rarely even read that many on here. Funny ass shit.
Please comment here or there if you do read it, I'd love to get your reactions, since I know you guys the best.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=105998.0
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@Ohnoes:
If I look at the numbers, Evilution indeed has the biggest amount of "other stuff" in it. It's impossible, for me at least, to know exactly what. I can imagine caffeine is not the only aceton solulable product.
After the aceton wash I liked the Evilution gear the best, but that doesn't necessarily mean it has the least amount of caffeine left. At most I should say it has the least amount of stuff I react to in a negative way added to it.
Powerades previous batch was ok, his latest one gave me severe muscle tensions, that's what made me look into the washing technique. Call me an idiot but a few days ago, I dumped the two together in one bag cuz I was sick of having all those baggies laying around.
About the visuals, I experienced something like that last night, but I thought it was caused from being exhausted from sleeping only for a few hours over the past 2-3 days in combination with a bit too much speed yesterday. Usually I take about 50-80mg, but yesterday I was like, fuck it, I deserve a little extra after such a hectic week and I snorted 100mg (also my tolerance is building up) after 50mg in my coffee a few hours earlier. Then later on I shoveled another 80mg up my nose plus some leftovers off the plate. Also took a few hits from the joint my wife was smoking.
After a while I started feeling nauseous and the text on my screen started to become blurry when I scrolled down pages and everything was slow motioned and "trailed" when I looked around the room. This kinda freaked me out so I popped a Diazepam and I started to feel better really quick and fell asleep in the couch shortly after. This morning everything feels ok again. No idea what happened. My very first thought was I accidentally snorted a bit of 2C-B left on the plate but that was probably not the case.
About the acetone: do NOT use nail polish!!
1. It contains water so you'll lose a good amount of amph.
2. It contains perfumes and there's no way you get that smell out if you use it.
Just go to a store like Home Depot or Menards or something like that. They should have waterfree pure acetone.
I got mine at a store that sells stuff for the yard and paint and all that. It's very cheap (1liter for 2,99€)
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@ohnoes: I have experienced intense visuals, exactly as you describe, after 2 days straight IVing (a lot of) BM with no real sleep. By the end of the second day I was almost worried for I have never seen such prominent visuals.
@jagfug: etizolam is nice, but the powder i got was so hard to measure i overdid it. from what i can remember it was not bad. however since it is a benzo analog, it is illegal to possess under the Federal Analog Act.
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Any1 tried AfghanApothecary's pink speed ? i looked through alot of post but can't find anything about this vendor or product ?
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Any1 tried AfghanApothecary's pink speed ? i looked through alot of post but can't find anything about this vendor or product ?
I bought speed from AA a few months back and I felt absolutely nothing. I took a bit, waited, took a bit more, you know, like when you're not sure how strong a drug will be. You have to "learn" how to use each different drug and from each different source. I finished a whole gram in 1 night and was still waiting.
It was cheap and just me taking a gamble for a laugh but 1 whole gram, I figured I'd drop him a msg about it explaining this was very very low on amph %. I wasn't convinced there was any in it at all. He responds quickly, and my impression was he is a super nice guy. He offered me 2grams if I bought another 1 because he said the new batch he had in was WAY better and he acknowledged that his older batch was poor. I took a gamble, because he sounded really friendly and it was very cheap.
Unfortunately, the second batch had no effect on me either. The color was slightly different but it was still extremely weak. After a huge dose and no effect an hour later, I decided to cut it with some other decent stuff.
AA has an excellent reputation for customer service. He WILL use PGP if you ask (at the time I bought he didn't display his key on his vendor page) but I'm afraid I cannot recommend his speed in the slightest.
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AA has an excellent reputation for customer service.
Really? To me it seems AA has pretty much the worst reputation of all vendors on SR.
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AfghanApothecary
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I (mis)understood AA = AAkoven. Sorry!
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AfghanApothecry is very bad, don't even consider buying there. Might as well send the coins straight to me, since you'll be throwing them away anyway.
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Is BoyMaster's speed wet or dry?
Anyone tried Amsterdope's? ( http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/adde5b179c )
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Is BoyMaster's speed wet or dry?
Anyone tried Amsterdope's? ( http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/adde5b179c )
BoyMaster's speed arrived far from wet but it's not powder either, more like a waxy clay. If you leave the baggie open for 10 minutes it's already usable (in my case anyway).
Amsterdope's stuff is just ok, not great, not shitty but I doubt it was >60% pure as advertised when I placed my order.
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Quote from: caffeine_me on January 17, 2013, 07:44 am
Received from our beloved BoyMaster.....
Post mark date was around 5 days after he had marked it shipped in SR. Took about 7 days to jump the pond.
That's most disappointing. Was that priority do you recall? Here I am, hoping for "by Saturday" as it was marked in transit Monday 14th. It may work differently in that country, but one would assume
a "postmark" is universal, as proof of the day the letter/parcel was given to the post office. .... :Psighs.... The things we put up with for speed.
Standard shipping. No priority.
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Quote from: caffeine_me on January 17, 2013, 07:44 am
Received from our beloved BoyMaster.....
Post mark date was around 5 days after he had marked it shipped in SR. Took about 7 days to jump the pond.
That's most disappointing. Was that priority do you recall? Here I am, hoping for "by Saturday" as it was marked in transit Monday 14th. It may work differently in that country, but one would assume
a "postmark" is universal, as proof of the day the letter/parcel was given to the post office. .... :Psighs.... The things we put up with for speed.
Standard shipping. No priority.
Thanks well I did priority so who knows? Tomorrow is another freakin Holiday for the Postal Workers Union, so I'm hoping for Tuesday, but will try not to get my hopes up. That Dagobert speed is ok in the meantime, but feels like half caffeine. Evilution was more tolerable.
@Shamiroqai
Did you just get your BM order today? Are you or did already write a review of this latest batch?
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OK, just tested BMs stuff and it seems to be fine. (apart from the very nasty smell)
Very awake and until now not much bodyload. (30-60mg)
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So, question guys. I'll admit I don't know my stuff when it comes to Speed at all tbh. I recently tried some of SuperTrips Speed, I rocked up at my mates place at 530 in the morning after being up all night and was yawning on the way there. I got there, and over the course of 3-5 hours I snorted 2 points of Speed myself and he snorted I think 3 points. I managed to literally stay awake until 11pm that night with ease. This was my first time trying Speed, so I don't have a tolerance to it, but I'd imagine it's relatively decent stuff either way because even if you did have a tolerance you wouldn't need much more.
One thing though, IT BURNED LIKE AN ABSOLUTE MOTHER FUCKING CUNT TO SNORT! My eye was literally tearing for 20 or 30 minutes afterwards and not even drinking water was helping with the burn as it dripped down my throat. It was fucking shocking. Is there any particular reason as to why it may burn so much? And any idea on whether 2 points is a decent dose to be staying awake that much?
Cheers and +1 for any info guys.
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I hope the smell in BM's speed isn't the same I had with Evilution, and recently Dagobert. Prior to Evilution , I never smelled that specific solvent. It is a very solvent type smell, and the fact that dagoberts smelled the same, but just a tad lighter, tells me his "cut" (I suspect caffeine) absorbed the solvent, so you end up snorting the solvent even if you dry it out for a day.
I will be disappointed if BM's has that same smell. It would show that they've all come from the same place, and were "treated" differently. I remember the old PE speed (prior to cutting off the US sales) had to be dried out, but the slight solvent smell, would almost disappear after drying, leaving a faint, almost likeable "fume" to it.
I always hear of people doing an acetone wash. Does that get rid of that smell?
I wonder. because it smells very close to acetone, and maybe it's something in the laboratory final phase that the acetone or other solvent doesn't completely evaporate, and perhaps adheres to the "cut" mixed into the amphetamine, to step on the speed, and basically be greedy, at the cost of our bodies.
My nose would like it's lining back!!!
Peace
jagfug
PS Keeping m fingers crossed that BM's is as good as last, and smells completely different from the last two vendors speed I've had. Will post review when I get it.
@Sinner - that burn sounds like this new 'solvent' smell that's in the current batches of speed. You said you have like 0 tolerance, but even with that said, assuming "a point" is 10mgs, that's good shit, unfortunately some different chemical has been used, and the fact that so many dealers speed has the same smell lately, tells you it all comes from the same lab.
I hope whatever it is, they clear it up. - Anyone with CC's gear have any complaints of a strong fume vapor smell? Then I'd be surprised, because you know it's from a different place
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@Sinner - that burn sounds like this new 'solvent' smell that's in the current batches of speed. You said you have like 0 tolerance, but even with that said, assuming "a point" is 10mgs, that's good shit, unfortunately some different chemical has been used, and the fact that so many dealers speed has the same smell lately, tells you it all comes from the same lab.
Mmmm, interesting. Wouldn't have a clue what solvent that may be, but SuperTrips has admitted to me that the speed has been cut with Caffeine and Ethanol.
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Is BoyMaster's speed wet or dry?
Anyone tried Amsterdope's? ( http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/adde5b179c )
I tried a couple batches of Amsterdope's speed last year. They didn't burn and were fairly honest about amphetamine content, although the content isn't very high. Can't say anything about his new batch. I'm going with CC this time but I definitely enjoyed Amsterdope's.
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@Sinner - that burn sounds like this new 'solvent' smell that's in the current batches of speed. You said you have like 0 tolerance, but even with that said, assuming "a point" is 10mgs, that's good shit, unfortunately some different chemical has been used, and the fact that so many dealers speed has the same smell lately, tells you it all comes from the same lab.
Mmmm, interesting. Wouldn't have a clue what solvent that may be, but SuperTrips has admitted to me that the speed has been cut with Caffeine and Ethanol.
First of all, I don't remember where, but somebody a page or two back mentioned that BM's latest offerings smell the way speed is supposed to smell. In case anybody saw that and didn't realize, it's very mistaken. If amphetamine sulfate is pure, it's virtually odorless to a human nose. Any smell is additive and not necessary (or desirable). Period. Now whether cleaning the product after it's "finished" is too costly or something, I can't say, but it's not the speed that smells is my point.
A solvent shouldn't burn that badly. They're generally irritating to mucous membranes, but it isn't sulfuric acid or something. Amphetamine sulfate never bothered my nose -- now meth, on the other hand, I can barely stand to snort at all. The tips of my ears (not the part attached to my face, all the way to the actual top of my ear) end up in pain because the burn is so severe it shoots through the entire side of my head like a goddamn soldering iron. I spent a lot of time snorting things when I was younger though, and nobody else seems to think it's quite that bad... so I assume it's only me. But again, amphetamine sulfate doesn't bother me much; it's only meth that does. All good meth does, not just some.
Don't get me wrong, amp isn't painless for me, but it's not nearly as painful as meth or as you seemed to experience. I have no idea why speed would have burned the way you describe; I mean unless there's sodium hydroxide (lye) that wasn't neutralized or some insane thing (this is totally a hypothetical example -- I only know about typical ways of producing methamphetamine hydrochloride, not amphetamine sulfate, and I have no idea what the common speed production methods involve).
As an aside: why in the world would a vendor be bulking the weight with ethanol? Is there really no other easily available liquid with a similar evaporation profile...? Now if he's *using* ethanol in the process, fine, who cares. Go right ahead, do what you gotta do -- but don't fucking bulk up the weight with it...
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Thanks for the informative post SS!
As an aside: why in the world would a vendor be bulking the weight with ethanol? Is there really no other easily available liquid with a similar evaporation profile...? Now if he's *using* ethanol in the process, fine, who cares. Go right ahead, do what you gotta do -- but don't fucking bulk up the weight with it...
That's EXACTLY what I've been told by people in real life who know what they're talking about when I tell them. They wouldn't touch it with a 20 foot pole, but I suppose as soon as it's dried out it shouldn't be an issue as all the ethanol will just have dissolved? Either way this stuff is INCREDIBLY odorous, and not necessarily in a good way. Smells very chemically.
Just to make things clear though, this is not an attempt at bashing the product, I actually think it provided a rather desirable effect, it's just a few things aren't quite right with it....
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...assuming "a point" is 10mgs...
A point is 100mg, or one tenth of a gram; as in .1 of a gram -- easier to remember if you think of it as the smallest "point" measurable by an inaccurate scale (or one that's cheap & does large weights only, like an average dealer would use).
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As an aside: why in the world would a vendor be bulking the weight with ethanol?
because they don't know any better. it's not like most drug dealers chose that job over bright academic future.
It's cheap and easily available. it's not like most of their buyers know any better.
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Good day everybody
I had a little chat with a lady at the post office earlier and she said that the mail can sometimes be a little slow in the beginning of January as they are usually clearing a huge backlog of mail from the holiday season so please don't be surprised or worried if your order takes a little longer than usual to arrive this month. This is completely out of my control.
Best regards
CC
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Someone left 1/5 feedback for Eric Cartman. They weren't happy having to dry out 20 grams of speed paste (of which half was free).
There's no pleasing some people.
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. @Shamiroqai
Did you just get your BM order today? Are you or did already write a review of this latest batch?
No, I received my package on January 14th (order was placed the 4th).
I didn't really review it yet except for a few remarks here and there if I recall correctly. Might as well type down a few more thoughts about it since I'm here anyway.
First of all, I can't compare with his earlier batch. I wasn't a Silk Road member yet back then.
I don't really know what to think of it, I've used it a few times now and almost every time with different effects. The least I can say it's strong shit!
When it arrived it was a yellow paste. It kinda smells like that smell you get right after you've lit a match. That's the closest thing that comes to my mind. Not at all like Evilution/Powerade gear.
It was a slightly moist paste, with a waxy texture.
After letting it dry and chopping it up it'd still waxy and it looks EXACTLY like rasped Parmesan cheese, even the texture is the same.
I had to chop it up with a cutter blade, a credit card wouldn't do the job, after a few chops everything was on the card, and nothing on the plate lol. It never really got powdery dry like every other speed I've had, even now it's still a bit waxy.
The sulphide (?) smell never really evaporated and it even has a very mild sweet odor added to it now. It tastes very, very bitter and burns like hell. I had burning rash on the soft tissue of my palate the next day from eating that tiny little bit. Wasn't the smartest thing to do guess.
The first few times I tried the stuff I couldn't understand why everybody was so ecstatic about BM's gear. The body load was pretty bad and I felt a bit grumpy from using it. I consumed the stuff in every possible way (except anally). Somewhere last week all of a sudden I DID get the nice speedy, focused feeling. No euphoria though due to my tolerance level. I have no idea what could have suddenly changed. I think it's just a matter of finding your sweet spot with dosing. I dunno.
Then came yesterday morning... .
Last week I accurately weighted amounts between 40-50mg and mixed it with my coffee a few times with nice effects. I've never been more awake and it just felt good.
So yesterday morning, still sleepy headed and too lazy to get the scale out, I eyeballed what I thought was 50mg and dumped it in my coffee.
I know now that eyeballing this stuff is NOT a good idea with stuff this strong. About one hour later I was going out of my mind from speedyness.
Every muscle was super tight and I was trembling all over, having the fastest heart rate I've ever felt in my life. For a moment I was convinced I was not gonna survive this final mistake I made and was prepared to call medical help. I forced myself to breath calmly and move around very slowly (no way I was able to sit down) and I eventually felt a bit better and knew I was not gonna die. I popped 5mg of Diazepam under my tongue and 20-30 or so minutes later I felt all right again. I couldn't believe I've been this reckless again just 2 days after being a bit careless and got nauseous from Powerade/Evilution/Amsterdope stuff and not even a month after my New Years eve escapades. Yesterdays experience was a big ego-crash and made me show respect towards the Amph. It will get you eventually!!
Today I feel completely normal again except for some muscle pains here and there and just only the thought of laying out a small line to wake up already makes me shiver so I'm gonna refrain for a bit to spare my heart.
Last night I measured out 50mg to check what it is supposed to look like, and my guess is I must have dumped at least 100mg in my coffee, so eyeballing is not my strongest side, especially in the morning.
So here you go, it didn't end up being a real to-the-point review of BM's gear but one thing is certain: It's very potent and it's great stuff once you get used to it and if you can live with the smell.
Laterz,
Sham
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Any1 tried AfghanApothecary's pink speed ? i looked through alot of post but can't find anything about this vendor or product ?
I bought speed from AA a few months back and I felt absolutely nothing. I took a bit, waited, took a bit more, you know, like when you're not sure how strong a drug will be. You have to "learn" how to use each different drug and from each different source. I finished a whole gram in 1 night and was still waiting.
It was cheap and just me taking a gamble for a laugh but 1 whole gram, I figured I'd drop him a msg about it explaining this was very very low on amph %. I wasn't convinced there was any in it at all. He responds quickly, and my impression was he is a super nice guy. He offered me 2grams if I bought another 1 because he said the new batch he had in was WAY better and he acknowledged that his older batch was poor. I took a gamble, because he sounded really friendly and it was very cheap.
Unfortunately, the second batch had no effect on me either. The color was slightly different but it was still extremely weak. After a huge dose and no effect an hour later, I decided to cut it with some other decent stuff.
AA has an excellent reputation for customer service. He WILL use PGP if you ask (at the time I bought he didn't display his key on his vendor page) but I'm afraid I cannot recommend his speed in the slightest.
Ty alot for the review, i believe you just saved me from spending my money on some ***'
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Good day everybody
I had a little chat with a lady at the post office earlier and she said that the mail can sometimes be a little slow in the beginning of January as they are usually clearing a huge backlog of mail from the holiday season so please don't be surprised or worried if your order takes a little longer than usual to arrive this month. This is completely out of my control.
Best regards
CC
Thanks for the info, still sucks tho :(
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When it arrived it was a yellow paste. It kinda smells like that smell you get right after you've lit a match. That's the closest thing that comes to my mind. Not at all like Evilution/Powerade gear.
It was a slightly moist paste, with a waxy texture.
After letting it dry and chopping it up it'd still waxy and it looks EXACTLY like rasped Parmesan cheese, even the texture is the same.
I had to chop it up with a cutter blade, a credit card wouldn't do the job, after a few chops everything was on the card, and nothing on the plate lol. It never really got powdery dry like every other speed I've had, even now it's still a bit waxy.
Kind of sounds like he didn't bother with a dessicant (if I have my terms right, they add it to pure powder to prevent clumping like what you're seeing). On the bright side, if that's the case, it would mean it's even more pure than before. Whether that makes up for any awkwardness involved with its form is another matter entirely, but still -- the whole "focus on the bright side," and all that, right? :)
Sometimes I probably sound like I manufacture this stuff. I do not and I am not a chemist, just an avid drug user & science lover. Don't take my comments on chemistry (at least not these comments) to be from a reliable authority or anything.
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It is really a shame that most countries do not offer some sort of testing facility. Eduction about what citizens are using goes a lot further than simply ignoring usage of chemicals and keeping your citizens uneducated. It also improves monitoring of possible dangerous substances, so proper action can be taken. Responsibility cannot be forced upon by ignorance. Unfortunately Evilutions product reduced by almost 50% after an acetone wash so testing would result in (to) little left. If vendors would like to test their products by a professional facility, please ring a bell.
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received my parmesan speed from BM today. Right on time too. Ran out of rutheiums dex last night. Anybody know if he will be selling again?
anyway... BM's speed smells like Satan's asshole but it works great. Took 20mg with some baking soda and I feel productive, confident and happy. I have to mention that I did take about .70mg of Xanax 2-3 hours prior to that.
cheers
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A small update: Finally got my non-priority order from BM (sent 7th january) to Scandinavia. Weight around 1,97 g (of 2) which is close enough :) Tried a couple of small doses (started at around 20 mg and worked my way upwards), and this is some potent stuff. The product was well worth the wait! Happy speeding people!
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Got my 2gms from BM in 8 days to western EU. Weighted a bit less after a bit of drying. (last time was dry but this batch needs a litlle drying)
No bodyload whatsoever, and great high. This is good amph :)
Waiting for CC's to come and we shall compare.
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Received 2g from HollandOnline, 4 or 5 working days to the UK. It's paste, so I'm currently drying it before I give it a go. I've got some from AfghanApothecary as well, however now that it's dry some of it [very little, TBF] has a pink colour to it, and I'm hesitant to put red phosphorous in my body... Anyone know if it's particularly harmful?
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Any1 tried AfghanApothecary's pink speed ? i looked through alot of post but can't find anything about this vendor or product ?
I bought speed from AA a few months back and I felt absolutely nothing. I took a bit, waited, took a bit more, you know, like when you're not sure how strong a drug will be. You have to "learn" how to use each different drug and from each different source. I finished a whole gram in 1 night and was still waiting.
It was cheap and just me taking a gamble for a laugh but 1 whole gram, I figured I'd drop him a msg about it explaining this was very very low on amph %. I wasn't convinced there was any in it at all. He responds quickly, and my impression was he is a super nice guy. He offered me 2grams if I bought another 1 because he said the new batch he had in was WAY better and he acknowledged that his older batch was poor. I took a gamble, because he sounded really friendly and it was very cheap.
Unfortunately, the second batch had no effect on me either. The color was slightly different but it was still extremely weak. After a huge dose and no effect an hour later, I decided to cut it with some other decent stuff.
AA has an excellent reputation for customer service. He WILL use PGP if you ask (at the time I bought he didn't display his key on his vendor page) but I'm afraid I cannot recommend his speed in the slightest.
Ty alot for the review, i believe you just saved me from spending my money on some ***'
I've got 1g of his new batch, I'll update on quality.
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Received 2g from HollandOnline, 4 or 5 working days to the UK. It's paste, so I'm currently drying it before I give it a go. I've got some from AfghanApothecary as well, however now that it's dry some of it [very little, TBF] has a pink colour to it, and I'm hesitant to put red phosphorous in my body... Anyone know if it's particularly harmful?
I doubt the pink color is from red phosphorous. I certainly hope not, anyway: red phosphorous has a habit of turning into white phosphorous when stored, and white phosphorous is extremely volatile, nasty stuff. The kind of thing that frightens me to have sitting around -- spontaneous ignition upon exposure to room temperature air kind of stuff if I recall correctly.
If you're thinking it's from the common red phosphorous + I2 meth recipe, I'm not sure that's a pragmatic way to make amphetamine sulfate... basically it's used to reduce pseudoephedrine to methamphetamine, which involves stripping off a hydroxyl group (I hope I'm recalling that correctly). So it would usually produce meth, not amphetamine sulfate, unless the precursor started without that hydroxyl group & reduced to amphetamine for some other reason than meth is produced from pfed. Again though, I'm not a chemist; take it with a grain of salt.
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For those who already bought the waxy amphetamine and want to get rid of the little impurity can just rinse the product with acetone, ethanol or IPA, then filter it with a coffee filter paper and let it dry.
We are so sorry for the hassle.
Great, because I just bought some Ethanol thanks to an anonymous tip I received (;D).
Shame on you! :P
btw everyone in close proximity to Germany I recommend to buy this kinda stuff online, pharmacies tend to get really annoying when buying these substances. If you get asked what you wanna do with ethaonl/weingeist the correct answer is: vinyl and high end cartridges.Random online example: http://www.shopssl.de/epages/es115692.sf/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es115692_Spirituosen_und_Anderes/Products/10001
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Received 2g from HollandOnline, 4 or 5 working days to the UK. It's paste, so I'm currently drying it before I give it a go. I've got some from AfghanApothecary as well, however now that it's dry some of it [very little, TBF] has a pink colour to it, and I'm hesitant to put red phosphorous in my body... Anyone know if it's particularly harmful?
I doubt the pink color is from red phosphorous. I certainly hope not, anyway: red phosphorous has a habit of turning into white phosphorous when stored, and white phosphorous is extremely volatile, nasty stuff. The kind of thing that frightens me to have sitting around -- spontaneous ignition upon exposure to room temperature air kind of stuff if I recall correctly.
If you're thinking it's from the common red phosphorous + I2 meth recipe, I'm not sure that's a pragmatic way to make amphetamine sulfate... basically it's used to reduce pseudoephedrine to methamphetamine, which involves stripping off a hydroxyl group (I hope I'm recalling that correctly). So it would usually produce meth, not amphetamine sulfate, unless the precursor started without that hydroxyl group & reduced to amphetamine for some other reason than meth is produced from pfed. Again though, I'm not a chemist; take it with a grain of salt.
Oh right, I thought the red stuff was left over phosphorous from the synthesis. What would the pink colouring be then?
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any advice for a new buyer, a very good speed to EU?
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any advice for a new buyer, a very good speed to EU?
BoyMaster is the way to go. If you're willing to go outside of EU then CapeCrusader is also very very good.
Give ithssie a try.
The only one since weeks, who delivers fast and fully dried speed (and without disgusting smell at high price).
iisthisisi has no listings for non-meth amphetamine up at the moment, and hasn't had any for quite a while.
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@remoulade
The pink tinge could indicate a couple of things really but if it is not simply dyed, there are reports that using nickel chloride instead of mercuric chloride in the aluminum amal synthesis yields a slight pink.
Hilly
Evilution has the same kind, and it's the last good speed I've had in two months. If you don't want to take a chance, send me some, and I'll tell you if it's safe! ;)
Also check the vendor AfterHour - there you'll see pics of speed they sell with the same hue. No doubt all originally came from one laboratory and then were further tampered with. Just my assumption.
If it's the same as Evilution? You got some good speed sitting in front of you. Chop out a toothpick line, and give her a go.
That's what I would do.
If you're still unsure. My first offer still stands.
Hoping my first BM order of 2013 comes tomorrow (Tues). Today was MLK day in US so no mail :'( - If it doesn't I should get 2 adderall samples I ordered just in case (again).
Had some dagobert speed and it smells like Evilution , only stepped on, with a waxy yellowish appearance. Very rough come down, loaded with caffeine. I'd take Evilution speed again anytime.
I could've asked my friend for more (his dagobert order came, mine never did), but I decided to let this shit go out of my system.
Slept for almost 12 hours, waking up around 1pm today. Had vivid dreams, I was hanging out in NYC, and ran into Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood. Me and Ronnie were copping speed off a guy in Union Square park. Next thing I remember we're on the Amtrak Train to Quebec! Doing lines, looking out the window as we crossed over Niagara Falls! Then we saw a flood, and were going up a mountain, relieved that we were above the flood waters!
1st time in a long time that I remember dreaming. Especially one that vividly. So today it's just Herbal supplement Caffeine and Guarana drink. Some proper eating, and drinking (no alcohol 5 days now!)
Hope my EU friends sleep well, and have a great week!
Please Mr Postman! Bring me my speed! ::)
Peace
Jagfug
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Give ithssie a try.
The only one since weeks, who delivers fast and fully dried speed (and without disgusting smell at high price).
btw everyone in close proximity to Germany I recommend to buy this kinda stuff online, pharmacies tend to get really annoying when buying these substances.
Some days ago, i buyed 400ml Isopropanol (4-5€, german pharmacys are very overpriced) for cleaning a notebook keyboard without problems at local pharmacy.
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Anyone tried AAs new batch?
Or know where he's gone? Hasn't read messages in 24h
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@remoulade
The pink tinge could indicate a couple of things really but if it is not simply dyed, there are reports that using nickel chloride instead of mercuric chloride in the aluminum amal synthesis yields a slight pink.
Hilly
Evilution has the same kind, and it's the last good speed I've had in two months. If you don't want to take a chance, send me some, and I'll tell you if it's safe! ;)
Also check the vendor AfterHour - there you'll see pics of speed they sell with the same hue. No doubt all originally came from one laboratory and then were further tampered with. Just my assumption.
If it's the same as Evilution? You got some good speed sitting in front of you. Chop out a toothpick line, and give her a go.
That's what I would do.
If you're still unsure. My first offer still stands.
Jagfug
Sorry, man, going to have to keep this all to myself. ;)
Thanks for the reassurance, I'm definitely looking forward to sampling it now, really want to do a line... Just had a few mg etizolam though, so won't be tonight!
Going for a rave on Wednesday, so I can compare HollandOnline's and Afghan Apothecary's speed.
Anyone tried AAs new batch?
Or know where he's gone? Hasn't read messages in 24h
I have 1g, I'll update once I have tested it!
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+1 Karma to remoulade - :)
Do a line in my favor!
-jealous jagfug :P
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any advice for a new buyer, a very good speed to EU?
BoyMaster is the way to go. If you're willing to go outside of EU then CapeCrusader is also very very good.
Give ithssie a try.
The only one since weeks, who delivers fast and fully dried speed (and without disgusting smell at high price).
iisthisisi has no listings for non-meth amphetamine up at the moment, and hasn't had any for quite a while.
Thanks, i'll take a look :)
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+1 Karma to remoulade - :)
Do a line in my favor!
-jealous jagfug :P
Tomorrow morning I shall start my day with some yoghurt and a line of phet, so I can give a verdict in the AM [GMT], in your favour and honour, squire!
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There was some discussion earlier about solvent and solubility; can someone summarize the best way to wash amphetamine? Which solvents are best?
I've spent the night (11p-now3:30a) researching it, since no one want's to "speak up" about it. The one that seemed in the best layman's terms, was from bluelight, so thanks to them. I'm sure the guy is on here if he knows his shit this well. - Again, this is a direct rip, copy and paste, whatever. So I'm sharing it, not claiming to know it.
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There are a few different methods for purifying amphetamine, but one of the simplest and best ways to do this is with a dual solvent re-crystallisation. If you plan to do this however, be prepared for a LARGE reduction in volume. Keep in mind however the stuff you separate out isn't really any good to you anyway. Consider the fact that most street speed is less than 15% pure, which means the gram you just bought has about less than 150mg of active content. If done extremely carefully you won't lose much of the actual speed.
Re-crystallisation is based on the different saturation levels of hot and cold solvent. A saturated solution is one which has the maximum amount of solute dissolved in it. The saturation level of any given solvent rises and falls with the temperature. Put simply, when a solvent is heated it can dissolve a larger volume of solute, and as it cools and the saturation level drops, excess solute will form into crystals and sink to the bottom.
A simple purification can be done using a single solvent. Add hot solvent to the amphetamine in small amounts until it is all dissolved. Anything that will not dissolve is adulterant and should be filtered out using coffee filters or filter paper (mositen filters first to prevent them soaking up solution). Next, allow the solution to cool slowly to room temperature, then place it in the fridge and allow it to cool further. Once it has cooled in the fridge filter the crystals out and allow them to dry.
It is worth noting that some adulterant may also be soluble and form its own crystals in the process, so what you have at the end may not necessarily be pure amphetamine. This is why a dual solvent re-crystallisation is preferred.
A dual solvent re-crystallisation works by using a second solvent to dissolve many of the impurities, but that the drug itself is not soluble in. The second solvent also acts as a cleaning agent for the new crystals being formed.
In the case of amphetamines the 2 best liquids to use are acetone and alcohol. Acetone is a component of paint thinner (and nail polish remover) and can be bought from hardware stores or art supply stores. Alcohol can be obtained from hardware stores or liquor stores. Acetone is used as the 'mother' liquid, amphetamine is insoluble in acetone but most of the crap used to cut it is.
So the procedure: Put your speed into a flask, beaker or some other container you can heat on a stove (note: use a stove without a naked flame, as these volatile organic chemicals produce explosive vapours). Pour acetone into the container so that the speed is completely submerged in it with a centimetre or 2 of excess liquid and swish it around to dissolve any soluble impurities. Next gently heat the acetone until it boils, and then take it off the heat. Now slowly add (with an eyedropper or pipette) just enough alcohol for all the speed to dissolve - stirring gently until the speed dissolves. If you add too much alcohol you won't get as high a yield as possible so don't add too much. Anything that doesn't dissolve is adulterant and should be separated out by filtration: use 2 coffee filters in a funnel to filter the solution, then cover it so a little air can escape and leave to cool to room temperature. Once it has cooled down you should notice crystals starting to form. Put the container in the fridge, and then the freezer to encourage more crystals to form (i.e., increasing the yield). The slower the solution cools, the larger the dry crystals will be. Once the solution has been freezer cooled, filter the crystals out with some coffee filters, then wash the filtered out solid in the funnel with a few drops of alcohol and allow to dry. Voila, you have pure speed. Save the acetone, it can be reused.
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So there it is. The only thing I would emphasize is the flammability of acetone. I used to work in a beauty supply warehouse. Trust me, that shit is high octane !!! :o
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CC is here (jumps up and down and dances a bit) Yeeaa!!
Managed to blag a cheeky 1/2g sample from HollandOnline.
Arrived within 4 days in very good safe packaging. Pure white paste with reassuringly bad taste and fairly strong smell.
No tolerance and bombed 1/4g. Came on after about 1/2 hour with a very strong euphoric body rush with extreme tweak!!
Buzzing for 12hr+ with no unpleasant body load or comedown . .I'll def be back for more
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For those who already bought the waxy amphetamine and want to get rid of the little impurity can just rinse the product with acetone, ethanol or IPA, then filter it with a coffee filter paper and let it dry.
We are so sorry for the hassle.
Great, because I just bought some Ethanol thanks to an anonymous tip I received (;D).
Works just fine. Still needs more drying but the core of my BM + yellow + ethanol blob is shiny white.
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Managed to blag a cheeky 1/2g sample from HollandOnline.
Arrived within 4 days in very good safe packaging. Pure white paste with reassuringly bad taste and fairly strong smell.
No tolerance and bombed 1/4g. Came on after about 1/2 hour with a very strong euphoric body rush with extreme tweak!!
Buzzing for 12hr+ with no unpleasant body load or comedown . .I'll def be back for more
Me too and i can confirm your experience.
No caffeine withdrawal headache the day after! (i don't drink coffee/cola)
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For those who already bought the waxy amphetamine and want to get rid of the little impurity can just rinse the product with acetone, ethanol or IPA, then filter it with a coffee filter paper and let it dry.
We are so sorry for the hassle.
Great, because I just bought some Ethanol thanks to an anonymous tip I received (;D).
Works just fine. Still needs more drying but the core of my BM + yellow + ethanol blob is shiny white.
Keep us posted! I don't think I'll try my first "experiment" with my BM order (praying to the speed Gods it gets here today!)
Though I'd be interested to know what the difference after is. Weight etc.
I'd trust any leftover 'impurities' in his speed, which from description, don't sound nearly as bad as the 'paint thinner' I've had to contend with for the past two months+ :'(
hellhazz sounds happy! :D
Tempo too ~! ;D
Hope I can join y'all on the Crazy Train later! Mail comes in about 2 hours. Another "tic ..tic .. tic" morning, yesterday being a mail holiday in US, that mailman anxiety is back up there again.
Too many fucking Holidays!!! >:(
OK going to pace around a little now.... :o
Peace
jagfug
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Hello everyone! Started my experiments with AfghanApothecary's new batch, and so far I am very pleased! I've been taking it very slowly, small bumps in a glass of liquid. I'm very impressed by how clean this stuff feels, though that may be down to my low dosing. About to take some more, so I'll be back later with more to tell! Also, I left the bag open to dry overnight and the what-I-thought-was-the-phet-smell has disappeared! Having done more reading it seems like this is a good thing...
Currently drying out HollandOnline's batch, it looks very nice. It stinks like what I would usually (previously?) associate with phet, so I'm not worried. Honestly cannot wait to try it vs. AA's!
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Got 2 grams of CC in the mail today.
Packaging was good, nothing very special or sneaky, everything safe and tight. Not suspicious or odors coming through.
Date on the stamp says 17/01, so in my book, that's a pretty fast delivery to western EU.
At first sight it looked like a moist paste but when I rubbed the baggie between my fingers, the content almost completely fell apart. So I'd say it was close to being dry and only needed a tiny treatment with a credit card.
Color is yellowish without any strong chemical smells coming off. Is this the real amphetamine smell people here talk about?
Weight was pretty much spot on. 1,912gr but there was still a bit left sticking on the sides, cracks and corners of the baggie and I didn't really scrape off the chopping plate so no complaints here.
No personal test results yet since I'm giving my body a break from amph for a while (that's the plan at least).
My significant other however, who had no sleep at all last night (kids both being ill AGAIN) so she was pretty tired, snorted a 20mg line and was completely awake afterwards and now. 6hrs later, still is. Speed doesn't ever give her euphoric feelings so can't comment on that. I guess her ADD has something to do with it.
Looking forward to give it a test run myself. For my own sake (I'm exhausted from fighting exhaustion with speed) I hope I can keep the boat off until at least Friday or Saturday. Longer if possible.
Back to work now,
Sham
P.S: awaiting an order from HollandOnline too, should arrive tomorrow or the day after.
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So just to be absolutely sure, I looked up the actual Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for amphetamine sulphate. Sulfate, sulphate, both are correct... like gray and grey, just FYI. Sulfate seems to be a EU thing, but that's just what I've noticed, I could be totally wrong.
It's not virtually odorless the way I remembered it as being. It is TRULY ODORLESS. It has no smell whatsoever to a human being, so sayeth Big Pharma. Any smell is a byproduct. Always. Forever. Every time.
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Got 2 grams of CC in the mail today.
Packaging was good, nothing very special or sneaky, everything safe and tight. Not suspicious or odors coming through.
Date on the stamp says 17/01, so in my book, that's a pretty fast delivery to western EU.
Brilliant, I ordered the 18, went to In Transit the following day, hope it comes as quickly. :) Haven't had any speed since the end of the summer, can't wait.
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Hello everyone! Started my experiments with AfghanApothecary's new batch, and so far I am very pleased! I've been taking it very slowly, small bumps in a glass of liquid. I'm very impressed by how clean this stuff feels, though that may be down to my low dosing. About to take some more, so I'll be back later with more to tell! Also, I left the bag open to dry overnight and the what-I-thought-was-the-phet-smell has disappeared! Having done more reading it seems like this is a good thing...
Currently drying out HollandOnline's batch, it looks very nice. It stinks like what I would usually (previously?) associate with phet, so I'm not worried. Honestly cannot wait to try it vs. AA's!
Actually in that same bluelight piece where I lifted the rinse method, it said that a quick way to remove some impurities, is to drop that dose in a glass of water, stir, and enjoy! So your 'better' reaction could be that you're doing that. It says to just not "finish it to the bottom" like, let some of the other shit that isn't completely soluble stay at the bottom of the glass. Don't be 'good to the last drop' type of deal.
+1 Sham for review
+1 SS too
I didn't get BM ord yet, but I did get those 2 20mg Adderall I ordered 'just in case', so you know I took one already with baking soda + water. That mostly applies to Adderall BTW. The antacid. I know the urine excretion etc etc, but if you were to take Adderall with Orange Juice for instance, you'd have trouble getting any efffects, let alone benefits, as the citric acid would be fighting the mixed salts of amph.
According to that same site, "swallowing" Amph Sulphate is LESS effective than snorting or plugging "EW" I know. That last one is still a "yet" for me :-[
At the same time I believe swallowing Adderall is more effective than snorting. I know the binders and crap in the pills really clog up your nose. Still you get the rush, but it's much more potent swallowed.
@Sham - Jan 17th? (why do you blokes have to write the date backwards too??? ;) ) - That's how long the 2 addys took to get from midwest to East Coast USA!! You're damn right that's good!
Right? Wouldn't that be akin to me getting something from Chile South America up to NE US in that amount of time? Geographically speaking. I know politically/demographically - being an English speaking, oh lets face it, South Africa wouldn't be where it is today if it had not 1st been under English rule. - Oops! (I think the adderall is kicking in!) jag tiptoes backwards out of room.......... ;D
@SS Yes sulphate - exactly! So you could call Adderall - Amphetamine Sodium. Geez! I didn't have to fail Chemistry after all! - I just had to pay attention! ;) That same bluelight piece states Amph Sulph is odorless in it's purest form, actually it's an oil in it's base, ie;100%. - I think I'm really learning something. I'm going to try making my own soon! (not too obviously overconfident!)
Have a great day guys! - Gonna be harder than hell to resist that 2nd adderall! Have all of you regulars (EU guys) tried Adderall at least once? I have to say it feels awesome. At least you know what you're getting. (has to be Barr brand IMHO)
Good luck Sham at holding off dosing the next time you wake up!
I do think the 'running out' withdraw, depression, etc. Is good for us. (sure he's just saying that cause he feels the adderall!) Damn voices! STOPP!!!!! :P
Peace
jagfug
PS. Notice the forums are timing out much the way SR was a while back? - Server overload! Sure keep telling the newbies the forums is the place to be. You know that shits gonna stop soon! (jk)
PPS. Welcome Syme - You've found the best forum on SR. These guys are the cats pajamas! - Hell, they put up with me!
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+1 karma for remoulade !!
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Received my CC order today!! Hooo-fucking-ray! Unfortunately I'm not going to test tonight and will try to lay of the speed for a few days
My stuff is a strange light brownie colour, maybe could even be considered "pink"
Anyway, thought it was worth quoting the post below for anyone else who has received today and is looking for "trip" reports
(sorry for long double posts, I'm not even amped more than what a cup of coffee would give, I'm just an OCPD 120wpm typer)
I guess now that CC has his new listings up I can post about the quality of this batch.
I was allowed to make a sample purchase of 2g of what I believe is his current batch in November or so.
To me it's the best speed (along with MrFIREUK before he started cutting it then subsequently scammed and ran) I have used for my purposes.
The 2 grams lasted forever for me, I used mostly threshhold doses although the last dose I took was 100mg when my tolerance was sky high. The bodyload was pretty much low non existent. No tachycardia, very cerebral and good for productivity and conversation.
What I do is very mentally taxing and basically, CC's stuff enhanced my mental endurance and concentration 8x. The results was factual in my profits and hours. It was also gentle on the body and brain I found.
My personal opinion now is that CapeCrusader has the best speed available on SR if you're producitvity / efficiency oriented. With my brain I don't seem to get as much out of BM's speed as everyone else does and I find the bodyload compromising my experience.
Anyhow, it's a subjective topic, at least BM's latest batch of %90~ something is probably better if you want to be a pornstar and you're not susceptible to the bodyload. I'm not saying it's bad though- although I have no idea what his new batch is and neither does anyone else yet.
I will still rank BM as the second best speed (for my purposes) on Silk Road.
So, get shit done:
CC no 1 (please don't buy all of his stock k thx)
Get spun and obsessively have sex for a long time:
BM no 1
Overall I rate both of their speed as the best purest speed that you could possibly get regardless:
1. CC (CapeCrusader)
2. BM (BoyMaster)
Street speed:
92393423059340593453 (yea we are lucky to have access to this pure stuff, street speed is a joke in comparison and you don't have to worry about fucking random research chems, or whatever shit it's cut with!... long live SR)
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Got 2 grams of CC in the mail today.
Packaging was good, nothing very special or sneaky, everything safe and tight. Not suspicious or odors coming through.
Date on the stamp says 17/01, so in my book, that's a pretty fast delivery to western EU.
Brilliant, I ordered the 18, went to In Transit the following day, hope it comes as quickly. :) Haven't had any speed since the end of the summer, can't wait.
Don't get too happy yet, I was just looking at my buyers list and:
ordered: January 9, 2013, 4:58 pm UTC
shipped: January 10, 2013, 3:37 pm UTC
So since the date on the stamp says 17/01 that means either it wasn't shipped on the 10th or it actually was shipped the 10th and the stamp is from some place else (maybe a central mail depot or airmail date?) which took 7 days.
I don't really mind though, 12 days from CC-country to EU still wouldn't be too bad taking into account it's not really right next door.
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HELLO :)
Who in Europe have the best speed quality, please?
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Got 2 grams of CC in the mail today.
Packaging was good, nothing very special or sneaky, everything safe and tight. Not suspicious or odors coming through.
Date on the stamp says 17/01, so in my book, that's a pretty fast delivery to western EU.
Brilliant, I ordered the 18, went to In Transit the following day, hope it comes as quickly. :) Haven't had any speed since the end of the summer, can't wait.
Don't get too happy yet, I was just looking at my buyers list and:
ordered: January 9, 2013, 4:58 pm UTC
shipped: January 10, 2013, 3:37 pm UTC
So since the date on the stamp says 17/01 that means either it wasn't shipped on the 10th or it actually was shipped the 10th and the stamp is from some place else (maybe a central mail depot or airmail date?) which took 7 days.
I don't really mind though, 12 days from CC-country to EU still wouldn't be too bad taking into account it's not really right next door.
Ah well, I'm home with the 'rents til next week anyway. It'll come when it comes.
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Hey guys ! My order from Boymaster arrived today, took like 4 days within EU. Gear looks a bit yellowish and seems to be a bit harder to dry. Did about 3-4 tiny lines so far (started 5 h ago ) really great stuff, as far as i can tell by now =) just decided to binge this night, so i will update later :)
Oh and i dont know if Boymaster was mistaking my order or if i received some extra ;) THX anyway :P
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Anyone else notice that new gerrity listing for "Mixed salt amphetamine powder x1 g"? I'm very curious, a real, quality UK phet source would be amazing. Has he had anything like that before?
Also, Richthofen has a listing for "1 gr. of 95+% pure Amphetamine Sulphate". More BTCs next Friday, so may very well bite the bullet on both of those listings.
@jagfug - thanks for the information! In the past I used to always snort, but have since discovered that my nose isn't built for it, especially after my MDMA abuse a few years back. Oops.
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Hello.. been having an unhappy time with the amphs I've had..... powerade now today (dried) first dose 146mg oral... nothing but some bodyload.. then 6hours later I took 200mg dose. and nothing but heavier bodyload.. juts feels like i had a ton off caffeine with little to no dopaminergic stimulation.
I will never buy wet speed again but even so if I aceton wash this, the fact remains there was no dopaminergic stim for me on this so...
Didn't get anything out of Evilution either. I guess I'm only responsive to a very small range of amphets.. too bad my btc purchase is taking ages . I am in dire need of CC's gear. Hopefully I can have some iisthisis stuff too and it's good smooth shit that gives me a kick
I've been getting nothing done trying to chase that amphetamine push but all I get is caffeine demotivation and disappointment.
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Just got my 2gr order from HollandOnline. This guy seems to have his shit together when it comes to fast shipping. Took about 3-4 days from ordering to mailbox.
It's a very white paste and has that very typical chemical smell.
Damn, with all that speed laying around the house it's getting difficult to keep my promise to myself to not use for a while.
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@ohnoes123: Quick understanding question so bear with me; so are you saying that you now feel like you cannot reach the levels you were once capable of anymore in general, or that Powerade and Evilution is causing these new feelings? How much Evilution do you take when you dose? How often do you consume Powerade and Evilution on a daily and weekly shedule? Also, do you have BM? What does his make you feel?
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Hello.. been having an unhappy time with the amphs I've had..... powerade now today (dried) first dose 146mg oral... nothing but some bodyload.. then 6hours later I took 200mg dose. and nothing but heavier bodyload.. juts feels like i had a ton off caffeine with little to no dopaminergic stimulation.
First of all I'm gonna say I'm not exactly a connoisseur when it comes to amphetamine, but I learn everyday. Be it here or other places, I try to read a lot about stuff I put into my body.
So with this is mind and don't take this the wrong way but are you sure your tolerance isn't much higher then you think it is? The human brain can be weird. When I see those dosages (146mg/200mg) that really seems like a lot to me, especially if taken oral. I think I wouldn't survive doses like that and I thought my tolerance was getting a bit on the high side.
To be honest, the only times I felt an AWESOME dopaminergic stimulation was the very first two times I did phet (given by a friend, and just regular dutch street speed). After that I didn't touch the stuff for months until I found out about SR. My first orders were Evilution and Powerade gear.
They did give me a very nice feeling but never the same like those 2 first times. Ever since, that feeling I'm chasing is getting more and more difficult to reach.
It's hard for me to find a good dose, it's either not enough for my liking or too much. But when I increase the dose by too much I often feel shitty/nauseous or the bodyload makes me anxious. This is only when I try to get the phet-high. (no matter if it's BM, Powerade, Evilution,...)
For staying awake and focussed it seems I never need more then a small amount. Usually 50mg a day does the job. This never changed over time and it doesn't depend on quality of the stuff either. It's weird.
So maybe it's just impossible after a while to still get high on amph, I dunno, I'm not an expert and not a doctor. Unless maybe you quit altogether for 6 months or so.
Just my 2 cents for what it's worth. Maybe the real experts on here can shine a brighter light on this matter.
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Also, Richthofen has a listing for "1 gr. of 95+% pure Amphetamine Sulphate". More BTCs next Friday, so may very well bite the bullet on both of those listings.
I dunno about this vendor, his picture displays meth.. ::)
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any advice for a new buyer, a very good speed to EU?
BoyMaster is the way to go. If you're willing to go outside of EU then CapeCrusader is also very very good.
As i read the BM's reviews page (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=40826.msg564145#msg564145), i don't think it's the best choice ATM. Thanks anyway.
Any other advice ?
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When me and the gang joined SR, we went on a mission forr 'good apeed' mostly out of nostalgia as most of us had used 20 yr ago!
So the searcg began - UK speed was shit - we got scammed by some German and of 7 or so buys alll were shit!
Then I got gram off boymaster - I snorted two 25mg limnes and was high as a kite! Hovvered the emtire house up, then though about the pib!
But I bombed another 50mg - thatwas the mistake - it was too much plus I think I was a little dehydrated also.
Lost my appettite for speed now but BM was the best for sure.
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for those that have tried both boymasters and capecrusaders amp...
would it be fair to say BM's is stronger but CC's is better quality?
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I ordered BM's speed.
I figured out he's not on the forum. Thanks for the tips.
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@ohnoes123: Quick understanding question so bear with me; so are you saying that you now feel like you cannot reach the levels you were once capable of anymore in general, or that Powerade and Evilution is causing these new feelings? How much Evilution do you take when you dose? How often do you consume Powerade and Evilution on a daily and weekly shedule? Also, do you have BM? What does his make you feel?
I had not used amphetamine for at 18 days. Felt nothing special... meanwhile I used CapeCrusader speed for 3 weeks straight once and everytime same good motivation and factor.
BM is slightly better but as everyone knows me and others don't respond to his speed the same.
capeCrusader stuff and the stuff MrfireUK had before he went cunt worked as expected tolerance or no tolerance.. I got nothing out of this speed after an 18 day break.
Hello.. been having an unhappy time with the amphs I've had..... powerade now today (dried) first dose 146mg oral... nothing but some bodyload.. then 6hours later I took 200mg dose. and nothing but heavier bodyload.. juts feels like i had a ton off caffeine with little to no dopaminergic stimulation.
First of all I'm gonna say I'm not exactly a connoisseur when it comes to amphetamine, but I learn everyday. Be it here or other places, I try to read a lot about stuff I put into my body.
So with this is mind and don't take this the wrong way but are you sure your tolerance isn't much higher then you think it is? The human brain can be weird. When I see those dosages (146mg/200mg) that really seems like a lot to me, especially if taken oral. I think I wouldn't survive doses like that and I thought my tolerance was getting a bit on the high side.
To be honest, the only times I felt an AWESOME dopaminergic stimulation was the very first two times I did phet (given by a friend, and just regular dutch street speed). After that I didn't touch the stuff for months until I found out about SR. My first orders were Evilution and Powerade gear.
They did give me a very nice feeling but never the same like those 2 first times. Ever since, that feeling I'm chasing is getting more and more difficult to reach.
It's hard for me to find a good dose, it's either not enough for my liking or too much. But when I increase the dose by too much I often feel shitty/nauseous or the bodyload makes me anxious. This is only when I try to get the phet-high. (no matter if it's BM, Powerade, Evilution,...)
For staying awake and focussed it seems I never need more then a small amount. Usually 50mg a day does the job. This never changed over time and it doesn't depend on quality of the stuff either. It's weird.
So maybe it's just impossible after a while to still get high on amph, I dunno, I'm not an expert and not a doctor. Unless maybe you quit altogether for 6 months or so.
Just my 2 cents for what it's worth. Maybe the real experts on here can shine a brighter light on this matter.
I didn't need t o quit 6 months with capecrusader stuff.
I thin kI siplpy dont react to caffeinated garbage and certain types of synths.. I mean how was I able to sue mrfireuk and cc stuff daily with barely any necessity for icnreasig dosage.
Granted, I have used power ade and evilution for 7 days straight but that's hardly super junkie time, espcially as I have been getting sleep nd not staying awake.. I don't know. It's just not for me I guess.
Shame.. but I am going to see a shrink here that is known to prescribe dexedrine so if CC goes away at least I'm covered..
To put things in perspective, I took 80mg of evilution liek 3 hours ago and Icould fall asleep now despite only being awake 10 hours... its a caffeine type crash but, I was never at one point motivated or driven to do stuff as Cc shit does.
To me theres no point speculating about it since there's no way to find an answer. I'll just refrain from using it..... Obtain as much cc stuff as I can. I mea I used 2g of it in 3 weeks with no change in great positive effects.. and previous to that ive gone through amphetaminen before, it's not liek it was my first time at the circsus.. sorry for typos.. too dejected to type properly.. since I got to test CC stuff in early december I have not had any good amph.
It should be noted that I do with all likelihood have ADD as I passed the questionnaire to get an appointment with a doctor who prescribes dexedrien. Also my two cousins and father have it so... different brains different reactios.; but I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Who knows perhaps it's the caffeine that is actually the culprit and somehow fucks the amph up to the extent that i can feel nothing but my heartrate nincreasing and then having a subsequent familiar caffine crash.
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any advice for a new buyer, a very good speed to EU?
BoyMaster is the way to go. If you're willing to go outside of EU then CapeCrusader is also very very good.
As i read the BM's reviews page (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=40826.msg564145#msg564145), i don't think it's the best choice ATM. Thanks anyway.
Any other advice ?
I'd recommend placing a couple of small orders with several vendors to get an idea of the market situation.
By the way, the information in that thread is outdated (last post is from nov 19th).
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Meh, still waiting for CC's letter to central Europe.
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Hi guys, this thread is damn active again since when CC and BM are around. So the good stuff is effective :D
I got both CC and BM, but I can't try them yet since i'm taking a break.
I've hear BM is still pretty wet or there is still solvent inside. So my question is: shall I leave it as is (vacuum sealed), and then make it dry in 2 months when my time comes, or it's better to dry it asap and store again for future usage?
thanks for info.
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Oh yeah CC & BM have arrived ;D
A little annoyed BM is wet this time so will have to attempt to dry. Haven't done it before so hopefully all goes well.
Then who do i try first ! Maybe CC as this is the first time i have had his stuff.
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Where are you located and when has CC's stuff gone into transit?
I'm getting impatient.. need it before the weekend... only 2 days left :o
Haven't had any good speed in well over a month, should hit me like a freight train that's for sure ;D
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I've hear BM is still pretty wet or there is still solvent inside. So my question is: shall I leave it as is (vacuum sealed), and then make it dry in 2 months when my time comes, or it's better to dry it asap and store again for future usage?
thanks for info.
I had it dried for 5-6 days without improvement. It's still pasty and waxed.
If you like to snort it, you have to wash it with aceton or isopropanol first.
Because the unpurity and the high price policy in the first week, i can't recommend BM at the moment.
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I didn't wash BM's stuff and thought I could get away with snorting it for a couple of days. One of the heaviest nosebleeds ever followed as a result. Not a recommended ROA.
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Where are you located and when has CC's stuff gone into transit?
I'm getting impatient.. need it before the weekend... only 2 days left :o
Haven't had any good speed in well over a month, should hit me like a freight train that's for sure ;D
Just wanted to take a minute to let you know that I haven't gotten anything from CC and I ordered the day he put his listings back up. I'm in the US -- not comfortable saying anything more than that, but for what it's worth, you aren't alone. Don't misunderstand, I'm not holding this against CC or anything, I'm just saying "it isn't just you."
I've hear BM is still pretty wet or there is still solvent inside. So my question is: shall I leave it as is (vacuum sealed), and then make it dry in 2 months when my time comes, or it's better to dry it asap and store again for future usage?
thanks for info.
I had it dried for 5-6 days without improvement. It's still pasty and waxed.
If you like to snort it, you have to wash it with aceton or isopropanol first.
Because the unpurity and the high price policy in the first week, i can't recommend BM at the moment.
I don't know if I really agree with that. He posted saying that he's solved the situation, apologized to early orderers and made a point of saying that future product will not have the same problem. Also, with the choices for quality amphetamine being as slim as they are, I think even if he was still sending out the same wet/waxy product it's still worth it for a portion of people. I mean if it's your drug of choice, there aren't a lot of good options and his stuff is high potency -- just doesn't work for everybody to get what they want out of it (such as myself).
And don't go telling me the speed market's better than ever, I know that, but it still sucks by comparison -- I mean for meth right now we have like, more cheap quality vendors than we know what to do with practically. That's all I meant by the comment.
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I had it dried for 5-6 days without improvement. It's still pasty and waxed.
If you like to snort it, you have to wash it with aceton or isopropanol first.
Because the unpurity and the high price policy in the first week, i can't recommend BM at the moment.
To be fair, afaik the prices for lower amounts have dropped as well. I am never sure as I never buy those. BM recommended washing with Ethanol, Aceiton, IPA, and said that all upcoming orders will be dry again. The priority issue should be solved as well very soon, hopefully.
So BM is currently the only one I would recommend. CC only sells 1 and 2g, sorry pal but I don't bother for that and there's no trustworthy review as of yet.
BM is objectively the best choice atm. I rest my case.
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So BM is currently the only one I would recommend. CC only sells 1 and 2g, sorry pal but I don't bother for that and there's no trustworthy review as of yet.
BM is objectively the best choice atm. I rest my case.
LOL... don't get me wrong, I'm in the same boat with amounts (all for personal use), but what's stopping you from putting 5 2g listings in your cart? True, bulk pricing kind of goes out the window, but hopefully he'd be mindful enough to realize you wanted 10g and to just send you 10g, ya know. He's always struck me as a mindful sort like that. But then, I've never even ordered from him until recently and still haven't gotten anything, so don't take it as too informed an appraisal.
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Going to make m first order for speed. Never even tried speed before because bad effects of similar drugs. So just some quick questions. Since i'm going to order from CC, do I have to dry it? If so, for about how long and is it just to put it on a newspaper?
How much should I try snort as a first try in mg's?
Do i have to "wash" the powder/paste before I use it?
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Also, Richthofen has a listing for "1 gr. of 95+% pure Amphetamine Sulphate". More BTCs next Friday, so may very well bite the bullet on both of those listings.
I dunno about this vendor, his picture displays meth.. ::)
Just like last time. BM/CC sell and suddenly there's 3 new vendors offering pure product as well. One even asks for FE. haha. If you buy there don't come here and complain, I'll only have that for you: http://i.imgur.com/pDrVQ.jpg
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So BM is currently the only one I would recommend. CC only sells 1 and 2g, sorry pal but I don't bother for that and there's no trustworthy review as of yet.
BM is objectively the best choice atm. I rest my case.
LOL... don't get me wrong, I'm in the same boat with amounts (all for personal use), but what's stopping you from putting 5 2g listings in your cart?
The price it is indeed. There's just more profit in selling 1 + 2g than doing "bulk" 10g listings. And there are no solid reviews yet from ppl I trust, although quite a few ppl seem to have received. I am sure it's good gear and all, but with iisi on the horizon and bm in my pocket, no reason for me to buy 5x2g. and seeing how even knomo is still waiting, it would take 14+ days. if iisi is back in stock within 10days, it would arrive faster. just saying, if you put all that together, objectively BM is the better choice (for Europe).
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To be fair mine was only send last week Monday, that is when the package went into transit.. Only last time it took 7 days and until now it's 10 days in transit (8 business days).
I'm pretty sure that it will get here and CC said there was a huge backlog due to Christmas and whatnot :)
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So HollandOnline's phet is strong. Not else needs to be said really... I'm a fan! It's definitely better than AfghanApothecary's; there's a lot more euphoria. I came up in the middle of a DJ set and started sweating all over the mixer! Good stuff, that's for sure. Felt very similar to normal Adderall or the stuff ruthenium had a while back. I hope you can all tell that I'm very pleased.
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The reason for me only selling 1 and 2 gram listings is not profit. It is to improve my visibility. I have even lowered my prices on those listings. I dont have much stock left and by only selling the remaining stock in small quantities my 2 gram listing will be high up on the first page by the time it is all sold out. As for the transit times of my packages well that is something that is completely out of my control. The Swiss orders have already arrived which means that the Netherlands shouldn't be waiting much longer. I could say a few more things but wouldn't want to hurt anybodies feelings. If you were to purchase 5 of my 2 gram listings it would still work out cheaper than a certain other vendors 10 grams packs so you really have no argument there. Lets rather leave it at that.
Regards
CC
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So BM is currently the only one I would recommend. CC only sells 1 and 2g, sorry pal but I don't bother for that and there's no trustworthy review as of yet.
BM is objectively the best choice atm. I rest my case.
LOL... don't get me wrong, I'm in the same boat with amounts (all for personal use), but what's stopping you from putting 5 2g listings in your cart?
The price it is indeed. There's just more profit in selling 1 + 2g than doing "bulk" 10g listings. And there are no solid reviews yet from ppl I trust, although quite a few ppl seem to have received. I am sure it's good gear and all, but with iisi on the horizon and bm in my pocket, no reason for me to buy 5x2g. and seeing how even knomo is still waiting, it would take 14+ days. if iisi is back in stock within 10days, it would arrive faster. just saying, if you put all that together, objectively BM is the better choice (for Europe).
I can't really give an accurate review because I recently finished my iisthisis order including the dextro but 70mg of CC had me feeling good. Was glued to a screen at work so no interaction with humans but I certainly was productive in front of the computer. Definitely agree with the earlier comments from ohnoes about "bodyload", felt little no aggressive heart pounding even when effects had worn off
Probably going to place an order with BM now too see if it is stronger than CC
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Going to make m first order for speed. Never even tried speed before because bad effects of similar drugs. So just some quick questions. Since i'm going to order from CC, do I have to dry it? If so, for about how long and is it just to put it on a newspaper?
How much should I try snort as a first try in mg's?
Do i have to "wash" the powder/paste before I use it?
It is not a paste. You do not have to wash it before use. It does not have to be dried. Just remove it from the baggy and chop it up a bit as it will be caked up as a result of being vacuum sealed for days.
Best regards
CC
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Also, Richthofen has a listing for "1 gr. of 95+% pure Amphetamine Sulphate". More BTCs next Friday, so may very well bite the bullet on both of those listings.
I dunno about this vendor, his picture displays meth.. ::)
Just like last time. BM/CC sell and suddenly there's 3 new vendors offering pure product as well. One even asks for FE. haha. If you buy there don't come here and complain, I'll only have that for you: http://i.imgur.com/pDrVQ.jpg
I have since decided against it, I've got enough speed to last me a few months at least. I'm just curious and greedy like that... ::)
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So CC hasn't arrived yet since being shipping 14 days ago. No worries. I just washed my BM with anhydrous acetone and it now looks completely different. It is a white odorless powder with no chunks whatsoever. I highly recommend doing this to your BM order if it is waxy.
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How much is a high dose of "pure" speed?
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Buy a special accuracy weighing machine and start with 10-15mg, afterwards increase to 20-30mg and so on. (especially without tolerance)
If you are afraid buy some benzos too. (in case you overdose accidentally)
BM recommended washing with Ethanol, Aceiton, IPA, and said that all upcoming orders will be dry again.
Well, i just was a little frustrated after all this hype about him.
Maybe i give him another try, at the time when some reviews of his new batch appear here.
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Where are you located and when has CC's stuff gone into transit?
I'm getting impatient.. need it before the weekend... only 2 days left :o
Haven't had any good speed in well over a month, should hit me like a freight train that's for sure ;D
AUS and delivery time was pretty damn quick. Nice simple and effect steath. Impressed.
Will have a test of the product tomorrow :D
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Well whaddayaknow, CC's gear has arrived :) 11 days all in all, that's not too bad. Packaging was the same as always, very discreet.
And.. no more sour smell! ;D
Product will be tested extensively this weekend, but I'm pretty sure it'll live up to the standard set last time, maybe even better 8)
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How much is a high dose of "pure" speed?
'High dose' all depends on quality, the effect you want and tolerance. Working dose is generally up to 1/4g (average paste) and good for mental stuff, a 'party' dose can be anything between 1/4 and 1/2g of average paste which gives a very physical body rush and tweak. NOT to be tried with BM or CC..top end is about .2(couple of matchstick lines) which is a much clearer head high and personally not so physical.Tolerance builds up quickly over a few days and you may have to up the dose for the same buzz. Too much speed can be very unpleasant so always start low and keep the next day free to chill down. 8)
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My CC order arrived as well, will test it tomorrow..
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How much is a high dose of "pure" speed?
'High dose' all depends on quality, the effect you want and tolerance. Working dose is generally up to 1/4g (average paste) and good for mental stuff, a 'party' dose can be anything between 1/4 and 1/2g of average paste which gives a very physical body rush and tweak. NOT to be tried with BM or CC..top end is about .2(couple of matchstick lines) which is a much clearer head high and personally not so physical.Tolerance builds up quickly over a few days and you may have to up the dose for the same buzz. Too much speed can be very unpleasant so always start low and keep the next day free to chill down. 8)
...and a high dose can lose hours talking bollocks on forums :o
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Couldn't resist so made a cheeky 15mg line of CC's white gold and what can I say... Quality is awesome, as expected :)
My dorm is clean again, hehe ;D
Oh and before I forget, Mr CapeCrusader lived up to his promise to make up for the sour batch I had in the next order I would make :D
Way to go for making customers that are already happy, even happier.
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Gotta run but will be back later, just had to chime in.
Got BM delivery today! Just over 10 days to USA East Coast. Count in the weekend and Monday was a holiday (no mail) here. Not bad at all!
Yes waxy, but just as potent if not more than I remember. - TTYL! Thanks BoyMaster ! Now this is REAL Speed !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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The reason for me only selling 1 and 2 gram listings is not profit. It is to improve my visibility. I have even lowered my prices on those listings. I dont have much stock left and by only selling the remaining stock in small quantities my 2 gram listing will be high up on the first page by the time it is all sold out. As for the transit times of my packages well that is something that is completely out of my control. The Swiss orders have already arrived which means that the Netherlands shouldn't be waiting much longer. I could say a few more things but wouldn't want to hurt anybodies feelings. If you were to purchase 5 of my 2 gram listings it would still work out cheaper than a certain other vendors 10 grams packs so you really have no argument there. Lets rather leave it at that.
What I posted was a mere comparison (checklist) leaving all personal preferences aside, hence my claim of it being objective. I never claimed to know your reasons, only mentioned the most obvious one. The transit time is a minor factor (to me), but still a comparable one. I do like my gear to arrive in my mailbox 2days after it's been posted. So given 2 very similar sources, I'll use the faster one, which in turn comes with less risk of seizure.
From a buyers view, the factors you can compare by are: {quality, price, shipping, customer service, (personal preference)} whereas price can outweigh some downsides. If I would include personal preference, my recommendation would have painted a different picture as I put quality and service above all else. The "my stuff is cheap, so no bulk listings/discounts" is a naive fallacy imo, especially if you claim your reason to be visibility. No one knows the real algorithms for anything-sr, but it's fair to assume that it's pretty whacky (anyone remember how long aakoven was #1 although he got 1FB per month?) and you could still do the grocery shop discounts, like: 9+1free. If I would do a group buy, share 25 from a certain other vendor with another user your price argument doesn't even hold true anymore. So I do have (multiple) arguments here.
It's nothing personal CC, you should know that I wouldn't bother with these amounts. It's also just a recommendation (based on facts) for the point in time it was given at. I don't decide who gets market share. All I can provide is attention, most people buy speed even if I tell them it's overpriced crap (hi FireUK!). After all you are among the 3-4 vendors on here I would consider to buy from.
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So CC hasn't arrived yet since being shipping 14 days ago. No worries. I just washed my BM with anhydrous acetone and it now looks completely different. It is a white odorless powder with no chunks whatsoever. I highly recommend doing this to your BM order if it is waxy.
How much acetone did you use if I may ask? I can do the math for extracting caffeine with acetone but I'm not sure what to do with this.
It's been said before, but I can confirm that snorting this stuff (waxy and unwashed) is indeed a bad idea. I took only two tiny lines over the course of a day last weekend and yet my nose was wrecked. And even worse: so was the back of my palete, which I've never had before with insufflation as ROA. I could still feel a slight burning sensation when eating salty food two days after.
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depends on the amount. And how many washes you wanna do. AmphS04 is not soluble in acetone anyway, so you can't overdo it. From my experience using ethanol: I used roughly 10ml/g, I just went by the saturation of the ethanol solution.
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depends on the amount. And how many washes you wanna do. AmphS04 is not soluble in acetone anyway, so you can't overdo it. From my experience using ethanol: I used roughly 10ml/g, I just went by the saturation of the ethanol solution.
I have no idea how many washes I want since I have no idea what the substance is that I'm trying to wash out. I don't want to go into the whole acetone discussion again (I think that came up quite a few times before), but from what I've read 100% pure acetone is near impossible and it will be more likely 99.5% - 99.8% pure. Which leaves me with a tiny bit of water to steal my precious amphetamines, so I would prefer to use as little acetone as possible :)
The 'white odorless powder with no chunks whatsoever' that jackinthebox got sounds perfect so I hope he can enlighten me on his procedure.
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depends on the amount. And how many washes you wanna do. AmphS04 is not soluble in acetone anyway, so you can't overdo it. From my experience using ethanol: I used roughly 10ml/g, I just went by the saturation of the ethanol solution.
I have no idea how many washes I want since I have no idea what the substance is that I'm trying to wash out. I don't want to go into the whole acetone discussion again (I think that came up quite a few times before), but from what I've read 100% pure acetone is near impossible and it will be more likely 99.5% - 99.8% pure. Which leaves me with a tiny bit of water to steal my precious amphetamines, so I would prefer to use as little acetone as possible :)
The 'white odorless powder with no chunks whatsoever' that jackinthebox got sounds perfect so I hope he can enlighten me on his procedure.
I've read somewhere that you can put your acetone in the freezer before using it, but i have no idea if it works
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depends on the amount. And how many washes you wanna do. AmphS04 is not soluble in acetone anyway, so you can't overdo it. From my experience using ethanol: I used roughly 10ml/g, I just went by the saturation of the ethanol solution.
I have no idea how many washes I want since I have no idea what the substance is that I'm trying to wash out. I don't want to go into the whole acetone discussion again (I think that came up quite a few times before), but from what I've read 100% pure acetone is near impossible and it will be more likely 99.5% - 99.8% pure. Which leaves me with a tiny bit of water to steal my precious amphetamines, so I would prefer to use as little acetone as possible :)
The 'white odorless powder with no chunks whatsoever' that jackinthebox got sounds perfect so I hope he can enlighten me on his procedure.
I've read somewhere that you can put your acetone in the freezer before using it, but i have no idea if it works
Exactly right, there are H2O impurities in any acetone that you'll find at a store. You actually want it hot, not cold, so don't put it in the freezer -- as a solvent's temperature rises, so does its potency as a solvent (the amount that will dissolve in it increases). Do remember how incredibly, unbelievably flammable acetone (including the vapor) is though; I'm sure room temperature will be fine if you don't want to play with fire.
Usually for a truly clean product, people wash once with one solvent (acetone here), then once more with another solvent that whatever their drug isn't soluble in. Then if they want it to be the purest of pure, once more with a third solvent or one of the ones already used just to be sure. The idea behind three different ones is that each one hopefully dissolves another byproduct or impurity that the other two didn't pull out.
One wash should get nearly everything you don't want out. Two will make it very, very clean. Three will probably waste more product than you want.
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Since I only wanted to get rid of whatever solvent was left behind, I did only two washes. My friend has a connection to an engineering lab so I was able to receive good quality anhydrous acetone (I can't remember the exact specs offhand). The first wash really got rid of everything, the second one was just to be safe. Just used a glass container filled with acetone and poured the amph in it, swirled it around for a minute, then poured through a coffee filter. Folded up the filter and placed it on my gaming console which dried it out within an hour or so.
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Who are the top 2 or three Crystal meth Sellers on SR shipping from USA to USA??.
I am only interested in Small quantities (1 gram or less), and although I will be Acetone washing I want to start with the purest possible material so am willing to pay a little more for best quality.
Thanks...
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@futura: There is a special thread for Methamphetamine in the "Rumor mill".
Oh dear, I hope CCs letter will arrive this afternoon.
I'am so excited :O
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CC=>USA
Anyone in the same boat? I'm wondering if I'm going to have to finalize before the product gets here- haven't had to do that before.
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...but from what I've read 100% pure acetone is near impossible and it will be more likely 99.5% - 99.8% pure. Which leaves me with a tiny bit of water to steal my precious amphetamines, so I would prefer to use as little acetone as possible :)
I was able to acquire fresh anhydrous acetone (meaning no water content whatsoever). However, anyhdrous acetone is noticeably hygroscopic and overtime will accumulate water which is what you are referring to.
Does anyone know how fast it accumulates water? What percentage of the acetone becomes water over a day, say? I know there are some methods to redry the acetone if necessary, anyone know one offhand?
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CC=>USA
Anyone in the same boat? I'm wondering if I'm going to have to finalize before the product gets here- haven't had to do that before.
I'm going on day 15 with nothing from CC and I'm on the west coast. However, I have had his letters take considerably more time so I have extended the date in the resolution center. I am not worried.
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CC=>USA
Anyone in the same boat? I'm wondering if I'm going to have to finalize before the product gets here- haven't had to do that before.
I'm going on day 15 with nothing from CC and I'm on the west coast. However, I have had his letters take considerably more time so I have extended the date in the resolution center. I am not worried.
Nothing from CC again today for me either; I extended as well. I'm a little concerned it got nabbed at customs, but I doubt it. When you click the "resolve" link you can just opt to extend the time -- no need to finalize until it arrives.
As for drying acetone: baked epsom salt (magnesium sulfate). Put them in the oven for an hour or two at 400 degrees, then pour some acetone into a small jar with some (maybe 1/10th or less the amount of acetone). Let sit for a couple of hours until everything settles at the bottom, then filter off your acetone without disturbing the particles.
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Hmm. I'm not sure what you exactly meant there. I will have to do some research.
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CC=>USA
Anyone in the same boat? I'm wondering if I'm going to have to finalize before the product gets here- haven't had to do that before.
I'm going on day 15 with nothing from CC and I'm on the west coast. However, I have had his letters take considerably more time so I have extended the date in the resolution center. I am not worried.
I wish I was in your boat, in that I wish I had some CC on it's way. I just want to relate to you, Monday would've been day 14 for me waiting for BM's to arrive (East Coast US here), but it arrived today.
Even yesterday I was having the same worries. Then when it came today, I was like "of course", you have to deduct Sunday+MLK day etc. Also the USPS is really dragging it's feet. I don't know if it's a "work slowdown" as the union used to have us do at the phone company, right before a contract decision, but we did them. It's a dirty little secret that most union hacks would deny, but it happens
Example; BM is coming from Spain, right? - Well I ordered another substance from Spain that had tracking, and it went out the same day, and as I tracked it, it looked like it was sitting in Spain for the whole weekend, and through till Thursday when I finally received it. I decided to look at the tracking again to see how it played out, and the stale information dating back to the 17th which had said "Preparing for Shipment" - Suddenly had the 18th "Processed NY, NY through mail sort facility". That was Thursday the 18th, NOTHING HAPPENED with that parcel, until the following Wed 23rd of Jan, when it showed up at the sorting facility near me. Almost a week, for the parcel to go from NYC about, 200 miles away, to the nearest major city for mail sorting. So the 24th it gets delivered. So it got to the US on Friday January 18th. Then it sat there. Sure, you had Sunday and MLK day, as Holidays, still, that is a ridiculously long time for any piece of mail to get from NYC to 200 miles in ANY direction.
I hope that helps alleviate your fears. Though it's sad to see another great US institution, falling into disarray, along with everything else that was once great about this nation.
This is coming from a guy who's last two speed orders never made it! CrystalMethCat - total scam or just a fuck up, read the FB + you tell me. The other was Dagobert, and I'll actually take that one on the chin, only because myself and a good friend have gotten close to 10 perfect transactions from him. In fact my friends Dagobert speed did come, so I got to sample it. Not very good. - So I didn't miss much.
When I tried BM's speed today, it really was a HUGE difference between any speed I've had since the last BM batch from last year. I felt the euphoria back. 'Bodyload' as they say, not too bad. Some tachycardia, but that's usually a sign of taking a little too much, which of course I did.
So back to your original worries. I would wait until Monday before I start to worry. I hope it's there today (Saturday).
The only negative I'd have to say about BM's stuff, is that waxy consistency. We were able to chop, dry and snort it. Though at the end of the night, I got the worst sneezing fit. Not sure if it was from that wax or not. I really didn't do that much. Probably 200mg between my friend and I. Also I tried dissolving in warm water, about 40mg, and drank it 1st, which seemed to feel better and last longer.
I know BM is aware of the wax, and said the next batch won't be like that. - I was just wondering. To anyone who did snort it, did you have any post allergic reactions? I don't mean the normal occasional irritation, where one eye tears. This was like a full blown allergy attack. It didn't happen till hours after my last dose, and I was coming in at the end of the night. I came in from the blustery cold. Was settling down, and I started with this tickle on one side, then both, then I must've sneezed at least 50 times in the next hour. Eye's tearing. Even when I was peeing in the toilet, I leaned forward and my nose dripped clear liquid into the toilet!!
Could be a coincidence, or maybe that flu/cold going around finally got me. Still half runny, half congested. Never happened to me be for, even with shitty speed.
Well that's enough out of me.
Peace
jagfug
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Thanks for advices about washing BM speed. With a single wash on Acetone has became completely white and on powder form.
1g on 5 has been lost with washing.
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I was able to acquire fresh anhydrous acetone (meaning no water content whatsoever). However, anyhdrous acetone is noticeably hygroscopic and overtime will accumulate water which is what you are referring to.
Does anyone know how fast it accumulates water? What percentage of the acetone becomes water over a day, say? I know there are some methods to redry the acetone if necessary, anyone know one offhand?
Yep, that's what I meant. I couldn't find anything on fast it actually accumulates te water and how much of it either though. Some people say 'over time', while others say 'very quickly' so I don't know if it's just a matter of popping the lid of or having it sit uncovered for hours.
I did find this guide on using the epsom salt to make anhydrous acetone though: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-642313.html/ The topic is about MDMA but the second post is only about making your acetone anhydrous.
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Thanks for advices about washing BM speed. With a single wash on Acetone has became completely white and on powder form.
1g on 5 has been lost with washing.
That's a ridiculous amount to lose, clearly looks like he didn't wash it to add weight? Anyone know what the waxiness is caused by?
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Hello buddies,
As you know, we had to face some serious problems at the beginning of the new year so some users could have been disappointed by the mistakes we made. Now everything has been worked out so we can offer the best quality and service again.
That's why we are glad to offer a crazy SPEEDY DISCOUNT WEEK! So everybody is able to buy as much completely pure SPEED as he wants, at an unbeatable price:
1g of Amphetamine-----1,5btc------19€-----25$
2g of Amphetamine-----2,7btc------35€-----46$
5g of Amphetamine-----6,5btc------84€-----111$
10g of Amphetamine----12,4btc---160€----213$
25g of Amphetamine----29btc-----377€----498$
Hurry up, cause the offer will only last until the next Sunday 3, February.
My best regards
BM
..and what about those that have placed an order that is still waiting to be shipped? ;)
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..and what about those that have placed an order that is still waiting to be shipped? ;)
I'm in the same case, but it's about 0,4btc, so i won't bother him.
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16 days after marked as shipped, CC has arrived! The date on the letter says 10 days ago, however. Don't lose hope!
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Hello buddies,
As you know, we had to face some serious problems at the beginning of the new year so some users could have been disappointed by the mistakes we made. Now everything has been worked out so we can offer the best quality and service again.
That's why we are glad to offer a crazy SPEEDY DISCOUNT WEEK! So everybody is able to buy as much completely pure SPEED as he wants, at an unbeatable price:
1g of Amphetamine-----1,5btc------19€-----25$
2g of Amphetamine-----2,7btc------35€-----46$
5g of Amphetamine-----6,5btc------84€-----111$
10g of Amphetamine----12,4btc---160€----213$
25g of Amphetamine----29btc-----377€----498$
Hurry up, cause the offer will only last until the next Sunday 3, February.
My best regards
BM
And what about those people who paid more for less quality ?!
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16 days after marked as shipped, CC has arrived! The date on the letter says 10 days ago, however. Don't lose hope!
OK, my mailbox was unfortunately empty again.
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I got CC's stuff in the US today.
I ordered it as soon as he posted it, so this is pretty much exactly when I expected to get it (~15 days)
The stuff is a crumbly off-white that dries to a white powder when you chop it up.
I haven't tried any yet but it looks great.
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BM's prizes for those unable to connect - unchanged? Anyone got his sample by now?
1g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿2.96 $39.46
10g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿21.44 $285.37
5g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿11.98 $159.45
2g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate ฿5.28 $70.30
30€ for 1g. Not sure if want.
http://i.imgur.com/YOUfP.jpg
But i will try.
After competition appeared...
(ok, BTC rised from 1 BTC = 13,58$ to 17.41$, but anyway it was overpriced for a imperfect product)
Hello buddies,
As you know, we had to face some serious problems at the beginning of the new year so some users could have been disappointed by the mistakes we made. Now everything has been worked out so we can offer the best quality and service again.
That's why we are glad to offer a crazy SPEEDY DISCOUNT WEEK! So everybody is able to buy as much completely pure SPEED as he wants, at an unbeatable price:
1g of Amphetamine-----1,5btc------19€-----25$
2g of Amphetamine-----2,7btc------35€-----46$
5g of Amphetamine-----6,5btc------84€-----111$
10g of Amphetamine----12,4btc---160€----213$
25g of Amphetamine----29btc-----377€----498$
Hurry up, cause the offer will only last until the next Sunday 3, February.
My best regards
BM
And what about those people who paid more for less quality ?!
He could send a free sample of the new & clean batch to propitiate the affected customers. ;)
New lesson to learn: In the future, oppress the craving and wait until the market has calmed down before order!
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I would be interested to know what caused that wax and exactly wtf it is. Obviously, I'm not a chemist, but I think it could be explained to me so I can understand. I had to see a Dr today because my nose would not stop dripping clear liquid. He told me it looked as though I had inhaled a caustic substance. I just blew him off and told him I'd taken an old prescription nasal spray that was in the medicine cabinet from last year. He told me "You better throw that out, it's obviously gone bad"
I'm not saying BM's speed caused my reaction, because I don't really know. Dr said my sinuses and nasal cavity were so swollen, they can't drain, thus the liquid dripping out my nose. He Rx'd me prescription Sudafed. I know it could be that I shoved a little too much BM's batch up my nose. I just wonder, since the wax is something of an oddity. Quite unique to the speed community, though my naivete may have the best of me. Since it's wax, maybe that's what clogged my sinuses?
The only plus is, I had to give my nose the day off from speed. I might make that two days. I only did another 50mg in some warm tea today, and it worked quite well. Another bit of desirable euphoria. Tonight I've taken 2 Soma's to relax. I definitely have a head cold. Not the flu thank God. Thanks to my mega dosing of crystalline Vitamin C in juice 2 grams per hour, I believe I kicked the flu out of my body. Feel nothing more than a little sniffle now.
Perhaps, too much too soon? - That speed is still of great stuff. I can't knock it. Just tell me the wax isn't something nasty like asbestos or something, and I'll sleep better.
I can't wait to try the next batch. I'll give the old honker a rest for a while. The oral administration works. I'm just one of those people who like the whole ritual of snorting, and I overdid it, along with catching a sinus infection, at the same time. God must want me to "slow down" ;D
The fact that I came down with a cold, is just an unfortunate coincidence. - Just want to know what that wax is, and what causes it to come out that way.
This way when I start making my own, I'll know to watch out for that mistake! ;D
We'll I'll live. Have a nice Sunday everyone!
How about 1 free gram to anyone who got the wax? ( just a suggestion ;))
Peace
jagfug
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I am interested in seeing your response after washing the BM with acetone. Mine has become a light, fluffy, white powder that just begs to be snorted. I don't snort anymore so I'll have to have a friend try and let me know.
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CC
Strikes again with what may be (After 25mg orally - mild tolerance) his best batch yet. I really like the way this batch treats me. Energy, clear mind, happy, and euphoric.
A+
Caution Sir CC, the packages are drying out or something from when placed in container to when it is opened by my delighted hands. Slight bump in the road, but vendor is very accommodating....Thank you. Keep up the great work. You might as put me down for another 10-100 :-\ :-\ ;) ;)
Took ~seventeen days to travel to good ol' US of A.
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And what about those people who paid more for less quality ?!
I think those are who this discount is for?!
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And what about those people who paid more for less quality ?!
I think those are who this discount is for?!
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Those are the new prices on his page. I believe Flyerz1934 was looking for something more. ???
I'm happy either way. The wax just irritated a head cold I must've already gotten. :'(
I must say Vitamin C is a wonder drug. You have to get the Crystallized Powder from the health food store.
A gram or two. Every hour, at the 1st sign of Flu or cold. - Take until the digestive discomfort starts. Some are more sensitive than others. Then you know you've titrated.
Although when you're fighting an infection, your body can actually take a higher dose of Vitamin C, since it's using it to combat the bug.
Very strong anti-virulent properties. Another thing Big Pharma doesn't want you to know about. A little off-topic but we gotta keep each other healthy too! ;)
I've just about knocked that cold out in 24hrs. - Had a decent sleep, now it's time for tea! (and little more BM's speed!) Oral administration really does last longer! :D
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@jagfug I think you simply inhaled a caustic substance, the amph will dissolve (not sure if this is the right term here) with the wet slime in your nose to a pH of 5-6 like it would do in water. I guess the cut stuff you are used to, will create a higher pH level.. Snorting pure amph regularly or even daily is something my nose cannot recommend ::).
http://cameochemicals.noaa.gov/chemical/19815
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@jagfug I think you simply inhaled a caustic substance, the amph will dissolve (not sure if this is the right term here) with the wet slime in your nose to a pH of 5-6 like it would do in water. I guess the cut stuff you are used to, will create a higher pH level.. Snorting pure amph regularly or even daily is something my nose cannot recommend ::).
http://cameochemicals.noaa.gov/chemical/19815
Thanks. I believe you. I don't think I'm going to be doing that ROA much longer. (if I ever do again)
Of course the one side that isn't as irritated I already automatically thought to myself, "Ah I can snort again" -WRONG! :o
Thanks for the link. WTF is that doing on NOAA? LoL! I guess the weather gets boring after a while. ;)
Forum acting weird lately. My last post, posted as if I quoted myself, but that was the post! Also everyone else getting that extra avatar next to everyone's name? ???
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Hello,
I'm sorry for your experience jagfug, the wax is only a little of amphetamine freebase leftover, it's sticky, it has a fishy amphetamine smell and it's not soluble in water.
That's why the body isn't able to absorb it through the nostrils and it sticks to it's walls. And that's why your nose wanted to get rid of it producing liquid.
Thanks. I was just surprised it happened the way it did. Well it's nice to know that our body knows when to "kick out" an intruder.
So swallowing with liquid doesn't seem to cause any problem. Don't have to wash it if my stomach can tolerate it. Right?
It's my own fault. Nobody told me to stick it up my nose.
I have been told to "Stick it up your ass" many times, but that's been going on for years! ;D
Peace
jagfug
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Can I get some opinions here about SuperTrip's Speed?
I've purchased 100 grams of the stuff in the past but I honestly don't know my speed well enough to come to a conclusion as to whether it's good stuff or not, and in real life I've heard too many mixed opinions about it to be able to make up my mind.
Cheers and +1 for any help :)
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To the above - you should buy several batches of speed - I'd say anyone using speed 100 times should have an idea of what good speed and bad speed is.
Now, the main thing with speed is that its 'easy' to make. I know for a fact that its been finished in a bath-tub. The entire street was stinking! Good job it was the kind o place in which talking to the police is not that common! One nosy neighbour and he would have been busted.
I know speed has to be 'washed' once you have been through the actual process of the messing about with chemicals. This speed was rushed - the wash was terrible - the chemistry also! What resulted was a speed in which the user stank of cat piss like aroma! A guy walked into a house - and we all pointed at him and asked what the fuck was wrong!
There must be thousands of different batches as a lot of speed is just a ew guya with acccess to the chemicals, some basic lab equipment and not even a chemist is needded, just someone who can follow a recipe such as add this, add that, filter, wear eye protectors and safety gloves. Each batch can be different which is strange but to make really pure speed you need access to the the best chemicals (many home made speed takes short-cuts) and also access to a lab with millions of pounds worth of equipment!
I have taken a lot of speed when younger, had a 6 month binge (our afternoon and night, Alcohol, speed,. anything else apart from crack or heroin)
EVERY batch differed and it was not just the local dealers adding shit to it. We had that, but unless you had a lot ephidrine, or caffeine, it was usually just a benign bulking agent.
Today, its AR worse as we have RCs that can easily pass as speed.
The BEST speed is the Europeans pharm grade speed, dexamfetamine. After using that I realised how I could now guarentee 4 hours of the efects, I can eat on it and if I'm not stupid chewing it all night, I can sleep and sleep well.
No issues with beer. In fact its a great one to level you out if your starting to get too drunk.
So, my praise is for comeoneileen, and i I was going to choose speed it would be that.
If you have not used dex - why not just try it out! See what the difference is between pharm grade and the usual lucky dip.
I anyone is selling generic Dex, would you say this is much different than the Euro made sstuff?
Do, please try this!
Not as addictive as street speed and NO nasty surprises such as some asshole not mixing that /RC is correctly.
Also - I got fucked over more on speed here than any other drug!
Was just lookinf for something pure - ended up inding with boymaster but took too much of it - 100mg battered me. BM did warn me it ws strong!
The equipment or measuring the atomic weight of the element - this gives you the ability to declare you have created a pure chemical.
Funny thing is, the pharm speed is active at 5mg - street speed, its usually 50mg.
The best 'street speed' is often made on the night shift in some hi tech lab!
A ew years back, a neighbour of mine was doing a lot of lates. We never had a clue until his door came swinging off and bags of various substances were taken away. His job was some assistant in a lab!
Bastard never even gave me a taste but, I understand why.
So, good luck with the speed, but be careful, it is one of the most addictive drugs due to its cheap price.
And do try some dex
And, when testing a new batch of speed, bomb 50mg and always have some valium at hand. If you ever find your really speeding your balls off and its not so nice - Valium or diazepam or any benzo will calm you down.
Have nice weekend!
Red.
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Anyone else in Europe still waiting on their CC order?
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@Red - Very cool! 8)
Karma +1 for that bit of "Speed History" ! I loved it! I was curious as to the time period. 80's 90's etc.
Either way, legendary stuff! I wonder if it's the "price" that makes it so addictive, as you said. I mean obviously it has to hit on some dopamine receptors, or nobody is coming back for more. That reaction is what makes a substance addictive, and when you move into Boymaster or CapeCrusader territory, we're not exactly talking cheap! Although CC's price is quite nice. Unfortunately the last time I had coin, was that 1st weekend where he froze his account to catch up on the opening day flood of orders :( - Thank God Boymaster was there! (though my nose might disagree ;))
I find it amazing that some on here talk of "keeping on hand" any number of varieties and strengths. I think to myself. "How do they not run out?" - Other than the obvious reason that they were fortunate enough to afford 10g's or something to begin with. (I just might have one of those shopping days this week ;) )
Also it depends on the individual, of course. Some of us just crave that dopaminergic reaction, more than others, for a variety of reasons.
Whatever it is, I seem to enjoy living a lot more, when I have it on hand. :)
I've seen ComeOnEileen's listings, unfortunately, they don't ship to US. >:(
+1 Karma for DeepMoves, as you had a 2/2. Perhaps offsetting your karmic scale for the better will make the mailman bring your order Monday! We all can relate to "The Waiting".
I've been following this thread every day this year, so far, and some are taking a little longer than usual. That seems to be the current trend. It's like they never recovered from the Christmas! :o
Peace
jagfug
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So BM or CC is the way to go ? im almost ready to make my first purchase, and i probably going for 5 or 10 grams. Don't want to get to disappointed.
Im planing on give it a acetone wash no mater where i buy.
I live in Europe so i was thinking about BM since it not to far away.
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Better read the last 20 pages and make your own picture.
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So BM or CC is the way to go ? im almost ready to make my first purchase, and i probably going for 5 or 10 grams. Don't want to get to disappointed.
Im planing on give it a acetone wash no mater where i buy.
I live in Europe so i was thinking about BM since it not to far away.
Try HollandOnline, his stuff is the best I've tried on here.
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So BM or CC is the way to go ? im almost ready to make my first purchase, and i probably going for 5 or 10 grams. Don't want to get to disappointed.
Im planing on give it a acetone wash no mater where i buy.
I live in Europe so i was thinking about BM since it not to far away.
Try HollandOnline, his stuff is the best I've tried on here.
Yes try the paste cut with whatever instead of uncut amph - lol.
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So BM or CC is the way to go ? im almost ready to make my first purchase, and i probably going for 5 or 10 grams. Don't want to get to disappointed.
Im planing on give it a acetone wash no mater where i buy.
I live in Europe so i was thinking about BM since it not to far away.
Try HollandOnline, his stuff is the best I've tried on here.
Yes try the paste cut with whatever instead of uncut amph - lol.
I have not had the pleasure of sampling either BM's nor CC's phet. We can also see from the comments that BM's current batch is waxy and lots of people in the EU still have no received from CC, hence my recommendation of HollandOnline; it's the best phet I've tried from the Road. Have you tried HollandOnline's batch?
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So BM or CC is the way to go ? im almost ready to make my first purchase, and i probably going for 5 or 10 grams. Don't want to get to disappointed.
Im planing on give it a acetone wash no mater where i buy.
I live in Europe so i was thinking about BM since it not to far away.
Try HollandOnline, his stuff is the best I've tried on here.
Yes try the paste cut with whatever instead of uncut amph - lol.
I have not had the pleasure of sampling either BM's nor CC's phet. We can also see from the comments that BM's current batch is waxy and lots of people in the EU still have no received from CC, hence my recommendation of HollandOnline; it's the best phet I've tried from the Road. Have you tried HollandOnline's batch?
No and I wouldn't. I would never again buy paste, when there is a chance to get the real product. He is advertising as "UNCUT - PURE - DUTCH PEP / SPEED H.Q.", yet selling paste, which is cut by definition -> my conclusion = ripoff. Even though helhazz liked his sample ;D.
I had probably my best paste ever from SR (German Express), the stuff rotted in the fridge, after I got my first order from BM - didn't touch it for like 4 months before I gave it to a friend.
BM said future orders will be send out bone dry and I trust him on that.
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I could write a whole essay on the awesome quality of CC's latest batch, but I won't.
It's just very, very good 8)
And suit yourself on what you want to order, if you like snorting or ingesting crap instead of pure product be my guest ;)
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I could write a whole essay on the awesome quality of CC's latest batch, but I won't.
It's just very, very good 8)
And suit yourself on what you want to order, if you like snorting or ingesting crap instead of pure product be my guest ;)
What is your tolerance like, what sort of doses are you taking?
Have you tried BMs latest batch?
CC's stuff is very good but I find I'm taking pretty hefty doses now so I think it might be time for a tolerance break...once I finish the bag
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So BM or CC is the way to go ? im almost ready to make my first purchase, and i probably going for 5 or 10 grams. Don't want to get to disappointed.
Im planing on give it a acetone wash no mater where i buy.
I live in Europe so i was thinking about BM since it not to far away.
Try HollandOnline, his stuff is the best I've tried on here.
Yes try the paste cut with whatever instead of uncut amph - lol.
I have not had the pleasure of sampling either BM's nor CC's phet. We can also see from the comments that BM's current batch is waxy and lots of people in the EU still have no received from CC, hence my recommendation of HollandOnline; it's the best phet I've tried from the Road. Have you tried HollandOnline's batch?
HollandsOnline's batch is crap. I can tell you that without having tried it.
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I could write a whole essay on the awesome quality of CC's latest batch, but I won't.
It's just very, very good 8)
And suit yourself on what you want to order, if you like snorting or ingesting crap instead of pure product be my guest ;)
What is your tolerance like, what sort of doses are you taking?
Have you tried BMs latest batch?
CC's stuff is very good but I find I'm taking pretty hefty doses now so I think it might be time for a tolerance break...once I finish the bag
My tolerance is quite high, but over the weekend about 150-200mg was sufficient for everything I did.
Have not tried BM's latest batch, however I have tried several other batches. I still like CC over BM, like I stated at least a dozen times here already ;)
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HollandsOnline's batch is crap. I can tell you that without having tried it.
My experience until now for January and sorted by potency: BM (but butthurt because impurity & rascally pricing in the beginning) --> ithssie's 30% (sry, if misspelled, still can't memorize your name) --> HollandsOnline's sample (no caffeine and 2 days delivery) --> powerade --> proline (friend ordered from him) --> some endless cutted street gear from another friend.
I'am still waiting for CC's letter and only three days before auto finalize. :(
Someone here, who ordered from germany too?
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I'am still waiting for CC's letter and only three days before auto finalize. :(
Someone here, who ordered from germany too?
Out of all the countries i have shipped to i would have to say the German orders are the slowest. For some reason it takes forever to get there. None of my German orders have arrive yet. Take the order into resolution and we can extend the due date. Please also bear in mind that there was a heavy delay in processing the first batch of orders at the PO. The date stamped on the envelopes were a full week after it was actually posted. The PO said to expect delays in the very beginning of January. I didn't expect this much of a delay though. All orders received and posted in the second half of January seem to be arriving extremely fast so i'd say everything is back to normal now. Sorry to everybody who placed their orders in the beginning of this month. I wish i could do something but unfortunately postal delays are completely out of my control.
Best regards
CC
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I'am still waiting for CC's letter and only three days before auto finalize. :(
Someone here, who ordered from germany too?
Out of all the countries i have shipped to i would have to say the German orders are the slowest. For some reason it takes forever to get there. None of my German orders have arrive yet. Take the order into resolution and we can extend the due date. Please also bear in mind that there was a heavy delay in processing the first batch of orders at the PO. The date stamped on the envelopes were a full week after it was actually posted. The PO said to expect delays in the very beginning of January. I didn't expect this much of a delay though. All orders received and posted in the second half of January seem to be arriving extremely fast so i'd say everything is back to normal now. Sorry to everybody who placed their orders in the beginning of this month. I wish i could do something but unfortunately postal delays are completely out of my control.
Best regards
CC
I have had a couple of days to take CC's new batch for a run and I am very impressed. It is the perfect balance for my physiology. I can not imagine a better product. Absolutely worth any length of wait for delivery; no matter the time.
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I'am still waiting for CC's letter and only three days before auto finalize. :(
Someone here, who ordered from germany too?
Out of all the countries i have shipped to i would have to say the German orders are the slowest. For some reason it takes forever to get there. None of my German orders have arrive yet. Take the order into resolution and we can extend the due date. Please also bear in mind that there was a heavy delay in processing the first batch of orders at the PO. The date stamped on the envelopes were a full week after it was actually posted. The PO said to expect delays in the very beginning of January. I didn't expect this much of a delay though. All orders received and posted in the second half of January seem to be arriving extremely fast so i'd say everything is back to normal now. Sorry to everybody who placed their orders in the beginning of this month. I wish i could do something but unfortunately postal delays are completely out of my control.
Best regards
CC
Mhh I got your order to western Germany last Friday, maybe I was just lucky - who knows..
I am also very satisfied with your gear. I needed quite much to get started - high tolerance I guess.
Cannot really complain about anything else though. It feels somewhat different compared to BM, as many reported before me. My pulse was quite low with 84 bpm after roughly 24h and 200mg. I am kinda sorry that I cannot give you a real review, but I had only 2 nights of sleep between a binge on BM's and your gear, while I had a 3 weeks break to test BM's.
I think its definitely nice to be able to switch between different products from time to time, will also order 1-2g of iisthisisi and 7-8g pure stuff will probably last until autumn for me ::).
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lightning fast delivery, good communication and good straight product. also the stealth was pretty nice ! 5/5 and thanks mate !
purity is about 50-60% i guess, so the price/quality ratio is great.
thanks amsterdope, next time i will try your coke :D
br
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new bm order arrived. bone dry as promised this time. :)
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Relevant HR post
hxxp://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/47231-amphetamine-neurotoxicity-reductionprevention/
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WOW! Such reality in these posts, since I last posted!
I am waiting on MONEY to spend here, and I only wish I had gotten CC's gear. We even PM'd that weekend, when he was catching up, but I couldn't wait. No not me.
Still don't get how Stoney1980 can even imagine being alive next Autumn. I guess I just think in a "here and now" type of way, but everybody's different!
There is one puzzling bit of phrasing which, for the life of me, I cannot understand. (and I speak "foreigner") Well here it is, if anyone can decipher this I'd be amazed
" BM (but butthurt because impurity & rascally pricing in the beginning) <---- WTF does that mean????
Other than that, I am grateful for BM's first batch, which although waxy, I understand was just a result of trying to get it out to us as fast as possible, and yes probably hastily so.
I also believe CC's gear will be my next acquire. I just hope the powers that be, see to it that my wallet is full in time, before CC's listings are history again.
I'm kind of glad that BM's speed was rough on my nasal cavity. Sometimes I need a smack in the head to realize I might be taxing my system a little too much. Taking it orally, has not only worked better,
it has proven to be more economical, as I don't need nearly as much quantity, for the desired results. The rush is only slightly later than snorting. It's really taught me a lesson.
"Don't mind me, I'm just along for the ride"
Peace
jagfug
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hi Speed experts !!
got some questions for you ..if i may ask....
should i sell my stuff dried ?..so you have no issue with weight loss..i give extra when wet or a bit wet.....but you will encounter quality loss when dried completely.....!!
should i also sell a average street speed like in the street in Holland here on Sr as well...and make that my budget price fighter...?
so...i can even make into 4 kinds..wet and dry....
its all possible.......i know what will sell though......and i know what will make me most profit......and so do you !!
interested to hear your opinions...and very eager to learn from you...
....i am not here in your topic to advocate my products at all....that's for my clients to decide....always..!!
Sincerely Yours,
HollandOnline
SR
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b27491ec56
SR Forum Topic Rumor mill
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95571.msg678344#msg678344
SR Forum Topic Product Offers
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95723.0
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I'm just going to add that CC's product is top notch. I put it easily on par with BM. There is no intense body load, it is easier to eat on it, and the euphoria is great. If you think it is weak, it is likely because you are used to the intense body load of BM.
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hi Speed experts !!
should i sell my stuff dried ?..so you have no issue with weight loss..i give extra when wet or a bit wet.....but you will encounter quality loss when dried completely.....!!
should i also sell a average street speed like in the street in Holland here on Sr as well...and make that my budget price fighter...?
so...i can even make into 4 kinds..wet and dry....
its all possible.......i know what will sell though......and i know what will make me most profit......and so do you !!
I'd never fault someone seeking knowledge, even if they knew nothing whatsoever at the time of their seeking it. But you confused the Hell out of me here: if you know what will sell, then why are you asking? And if I know what will sell... I... no, I just don't get what that meant at all?
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hi Speed experts !!
got some questions for you ..if i may ask....
should i sell my stuff dried ?..so you have no issue with weight loss..i give extra when wet or a bit wet.....but you will encounter quality loss when dried completely.....!!
should i also sell a average street speed like in the street in Holland here on Sr as well...and make that my budget price fighter...?
so...i can even make into 4 kinds..wet and dry....
its all possible.......i know what will sell though......and i know what will make me most profit......and so do you !!
interested to hear your opinions...and very eager to learn from you...
....i am not here in your topic to advocate my products at all....that's for my clients to decide....always..!!
Sincerely Yours,
HollandOnline
SR
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b27491ec56
SR Forum Topic Rumor mill
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95571.msg678344#msg678344
SR Forum Topic Product Offers
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95723.0
Great timing HollandOnline! We spoke btw about shipping outside your normal comfort zone. I took a few chances that month on untried vendors, and got burned 2 out of 4, so I waited.
It's refreshing to see a vendor actually concerned about how their product is received, as in quality etc. I'm impressed.
I'm no expert, but I certainly am not a newbie.
From what I've learned in the past few months, (especially this month), as you get away from real shit street speed, you get to the "middle spectrum" speed, which is cut, though not always at a disadvantage to the user.
I say that in regard to my recent waxy wanderings. Sure my snorting habit was "snuffed out" in a matter of 12 hours, but I can reflect back on that as a major step forward.
As someone told me in the middle of my "mini-crisis", - the closer you get to purity, the harder it is on the nose.
So speed, (phet, amph, crank) amphetamine to be specific, is quite caustic to the lining of the nose, in it's purest form, and can never be 100% pure, because it's not stable in a powder form.
I may have the phrasing wrong, but I think you know what I mean.
If I were to get purer speed than BM's, without the leftover base, which was an oversight on his part, I would not be too happy with the effects on my sinuses, as the closer I get to purity, the harsher it would be on the delicate capillaries of the sinuses. This is based on what I've learned from the forum, as there is no other truer source. All having to do with the ph, if I'm not mistaken?
So would really good amphetamine, with a slight cut, preferably one that makes the ph more agreeable to the mucous membranes in the nose, be more desirable?
My answer would be "yes", although I really think that I wont be going that route with anything for a long long time. It was worse than I described, but I didn't want to be a crybaby on here.
I'm feeling pretty good tonight, and that is with just a few well timed oral doses of approx 150mg today.
So I'm willing to try anything at this point that I can take orally, that would either meet or exceed the level of satisfaction I'm currently getting with the original BM New Years batch.
Still learning, and still many miles ahead on this road, but I thought I'd make a pit stop to throw my 2 cents in. ;)
PS @jackintherox - I hope to soon know the difference, but at this point I think the whole "bodyload" thing, is directly related to the users current tolerance. Of course that's assuming there's no nasty cut like caffeine, though I think that when we're up in BM's quality level, caffeine is the last thing one should be thinking about. I'm personally offended by the inclusion of caffeine in any speed. I'd much rather the cut be benign, like inositol, or even mannitol which used to be a common cut in the cocaine of NY circa 1983 or so.
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@jagfug: just for your own curiosity (and reinforcement), you might try paying attention to how you feel on the 2nd and 3rd days as well after only dosing orally now. I know you aren't that kind of binge user, but surely you must go 2 days now and then?
I never liked putting speed up my nose for some reason (I just don't care for the effect of the drug that way, for some reason), but I recently stopped vaping meth, and I'm actually really surprised at how much of a difference it makes, especially at the end of a 3 day run. I just feel better. I mean psychologically, emotionally, my mood -- all of it is just better when I only dose orally. When I find myself thinking "oh, c'mon, just for the taste -- I know it isn't really okay, but fuck it, how much can it really hurt," it's a lot easier not to when I can remember that it isn't just healthier not to be sucking it into my lungs, I actually like it more in most ways too.
By the way, you're much more lucid and coherent in your posts now. It's almost hilarious -- I can tell how much amphetamine you've had in your first sentence or two :P
Just thought I'd pass it on.
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I was typing out a whole story, but had to leave in the middle to bring the kids away and when I came back my pc had rebooted for some reason so in short:
Sunday I took 10mg of BM orally (starting safe and all after being sober for a few days) and I was speeding my ass off in a positive way. from 10 lousy mg, could'nt barely see the tiny little pile on my scale!!!!!
The day after I snorted 15+15+15+5mg and wasn't even close to being as speedy as the day before. Really left me wondering if my mucous membrane is too dry or something?? Is this even possible?
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There is one puzzling bit of phrasing which, for the life of me, I cannot understand. (and I'm from XXXXXXX, I speak "foreigner") Well here it is, if anyone can decipher this I'd be amazed
"BM (but butthurt because impurity & rascally pricing in the beginning)" <---- WTF does that mean????
Being a native "foreigner-speaker" I think he means he wasn't happy with the waxy texture in the first batch and the amount of coins he had to pay for a "lesser product" knowing that, right now, there's a discount week on BM gear for a product with a not-waxy structure.
EDIT: dafuq? One moment the Modify button is gone and then it's there again?
EDIT 2: SS is right about the location info, edited out. Thanks for bringing it to attention.
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@jagfug: just for your own curiosity (and reinforcement), you might try paying attention to how you feel on the 2nd and 3rd days as well after only dosing orally now. I know you aren't that kind of binge user, but surely you must go 2 days now and then?
I never liked putting speed up my nose for some reason (I just don't care for the effect of the drug that way, for some reason), but I recently stopped vaping meth, and I'm actually really surprised at how much of a difference it makes, especially at the end of a 3 day run. I just feel better. I mean psychologically, emotionally, my mood -- all of it is just better when I only dose orally. When I find myself thinking "oh, c'mon, just for the taste -- I know it isn't really okay, but fuck it, how much can it really hurt," it's a lot easier not to when I can remember that it isn't just healthier not to be sucking it into my lungs, I actually like it more in most ways too.
By the way, you're much more lucid and coherent in your posts now. It's almost hilarious -- I can tell how much amphetamine you've had in your first sentence or two :P
Just thought I'd pass it on.
You got me SS! ;D
I wasn't aware that my posts had become so multi-dimensional in the past 72 hours, until you pointed it out.There's no doubt about it. I become the "old" me with the proper amount of amphetamine. ;)
Binge, you say? I don't know what you're talking about. ::) I had a great 7 hour sleep Sunday night. That's the only sleep I've had since last Friday, when that wonderful stuff arrived! :D
I definitely like to binge. "Nothing exceeds like excess" :P - I don't delude myself into thinking I'm some sort of responsible drug addict. Though being my new DOC, I find it has more positives than negatives.
@Sham - Glad to hear you've finally allowed yourself to enjoy life! :D Though temperance is an honorable thing, it can be painful sometimes. I know all too well. Thanks for the translation.
So there's been mention of other vendors on here, that I've never seen mentioned before, though I have seen their listings.
I would definitely give HollandOnliine and AfterDark a try. Just as soon as I get my stinking paws on some CC ! "You damn dirty ape!" ::)
Feeling fine on Boymaster cloud 9! ;D
Peace
jagfug
PS It's about 5am here+I just got done watching "Gimme Shelter" for the umpteenth time! ;D I noticed a lot more things. Having the bluetooth headphones on and everyone asleep, makes for great midnight shows! 8)
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There is one puzzling bit of phrasing which, for the life of me, I cannot understand. (and I'm from REDACTED, I speak "foreigner") Well here it is, if anyone can decipher this I'd be amazed
"BM (but butthurt because impurity & rascally pricing in the beginning)" <---- WTF does that mean? ???
You should probably edit your quote of jagfug, Sham: if he changes his mind about that kind of location info, at least he can edit his own post. Your quote of his original he can't edit though.
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hi Speed experts !!
got some questions for you ..if i may ask....
should i sell my stuff dried ?..so you have no issue with weight loss..i give extra when wet or a bit wet.....but you will encounter quality loss when dried completely.....!!
should i also sell a average street speed like in the street in Holland here on Sr as well...and make that my budget price fighter...?
so...i can even make into 4 kinds..wet and dry....
its all possible.......i know what will sell though......and i know what will make me most profit......and so do you !!
interested to hear your opinions...and very eager to learn from you...
....i am not here in your topic to advocate my products at all....that's for my clients to decide....always..!!
Sincerely Yours,
HollandOnline
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First of all quality loss from drying is a myth, unless you plan to dry it at 200°C ..
Many of us here(myself included) are to fastidious, from pure self-made stuff, to even bother buying dutch paste - dried or not. When you can make it to the source(the lab) though we might change our mind ;). On the the other hand many people don't read the forums and will always buy the cheapest crap they can find..
Maybe just order 1g from BM or CC for yourself to know what real speed is like.
@jagfug when you say it like that vendors will use caustic cutting agents in the future ;D.
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@jagfug when you say it like that vendors will use caustic cutting agents in the future ;D.
Like what? Good God! I posted so much shit! How do you guys tolerate me???? :-[
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5. Send us the url to your review via pm @ the market.
6. We will check this ..and then answer you with an message with further instructions.. normal way is you finalize and we send you the BTC for the TX via the internal SR system.
Please be honest and neutral...the opinion in your review doesnt affect this deal. This is about an objective valuation.
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@Jag: I've tried some HollandOnline a while ago and it's alright if you don't mind wet stuff with a very strong chemical smell.
Personally, I like chemical fumes. I'm the kind of person who loves the smell of gasoline, exhaust, alcohols etc. The only thing I truly hate is ammonia due to a traumatic experience as a kid. My dad was an architect and back then there was no such thing as a printer (except those shitty noisy tiny ones, the kind using paper with the holes on both sides).
So he had this machine in the basement, I think it was called a plotter(?) to print his designs. In order to print with it there was a whole bunch of chemicals needed and apparently ammonia was one of them. The chemicals were stored in jerrycans leading to the machine through tubes. One day I was curious and decided to smell each one of them. Well, the ammonia one takes your breath away and I thought I was gonna die. Pretty scary for an 8yrs old kid. Nowadays I can still relive the fear I felt every time I smell ammonia somewhere.
Anyway, back to the subject (I blame CC here for wandering off the path) of HollandOnline. It's not crap speed but I'm almost sure it's cut with glucose or mannitole, not sure about caffeine since I don't react very strong on it, being a coffee addict. It also burns like a motherfucker.
I know you just started refraining the nasal way, but the drip after snorting has a bit of sweetness in it. I'm not gonna go as far as saying it's delicious but I can surely appreciate the afterdrip.
I should try it in a drink, maybe use it as coffee sweetener lol.
It's not really superstrong either, it can give you a nice speedyness but you'll need a much higher dose than BM/CC. Not too much of a body load either (of course this is different from person to person). I like it better then Powerade/Evilution stuff. If he makes an exception on shipping and you can spare the coins, it's safe to give it a test run on a small order or something. If you're on a budget, save it for more CC/BM though.
Talking about CC. After staring at my stashbox for over a week I tried some maybe an hour or two ago and I'm totally in love with it. This stuff gives no body load at all, my resting heart rate stays at the same level and even being active doesn't give much of an increase. Not feeling any tension and feeling superclear in the head. However, compared to the 50mg BM yesterday and the oral 10mg Sunday it seems I need a tad more of it to reach the same level. But tolerance already came back into play again too so I dunno.
BM gives me a lazy kind of speedyness and I would not use it for physical work due to heavy body load (>100bpm just sitting on a chair) but the focus I get from it is much deeper and foggy. It's like I'm wearing headphones and nothing can take my attention away from what I'm doing. The comedown makes me very sleepy which is a good thing.
CC is perfect for tasking around the house, writing and probably even at the office (will be tested coming night). Doesn't make me sleepy at all, which today, in my case is a bad thing, since I'm up since 7am (it's almost 1pm now) and I gotta start working at 9pm till 3.30am so there goes the napping I had planned... .
Instead I'll just do another tiny bump of CC while browsing my favorite forums, and getting everything ready for when the kids and the misses comes home.
Cheers
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So speed, (phet, amph, crank) amphetamine to be specific, is quite caustic to the lining of the nose, in it's purest form, and can never be 100% pure, because it's not stable in a powder form.
I may have the phrasing wrong, but I think you know what I mean.
If I were to get purer speed than BM's, without the leftover base, which was an oversight on his part, I would not be too happy with the effects on my sinuses, as the closer I get to purity, the harsher it would be on the delicate capillaries of the sinuses. This is based on what I've learned from the forum, as there is no other truer source. All having to do with the ph, if I'm not mistaken?
I was referring to these lines I guess. Also BM's should be less caustic with the leftover base, because the base has a pH of 8 I think, but idk if this is noticeable at all. CC's amph is hurting my nose in the same way. Those who really want to snort it regularly might wanna cut it, but oral ingestion is better anyway. The other 2 ways of ingestion are both better for sure, but I never tried them..
also "it's not stable in a powder form." is pretty wrong, its only stable in powder form as a salt :-*. 100% are not achievable, because its impossible to control a chemical reaction in a way to only produce the product. You will always get intermediate-reactions and back-reactions etc. The 96% from BM's last batch are probably close to the max, without a high-tech lab.
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For anyone still waiting on their CC order, you'll be relieved to know that mine only arrived today, even though I live in southern Europe.
Ordered: 9th Jan
Shipped: 10th Jan
Postal date on the letter: 16th Jan (this isn't CC's fault)
So, there's just a giant delay with the first batch. Otherwise everything looks great: totally dry, barely any smell, discreet.
I'll hold off on a detailed review since I've been using quite a bit of BM's stuff in the previous weeks, but so far it's pretty good: clean and no body load.
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Just did a two day binge on CC's stuff last weekend. It's pretty much needless to say that his product is great but what surprised me the most was the almost complete lack of speed-hangover. I always take good care if myself during binges but yet I usually feel pretty bad after a weekend of speeding (mostly hit-by-a-bus-bad on monday and somewhat tired/demotivated/depressed until wedsnesday or thursday). Yet CC's gear left me feeling just a bit tired on monday and I actually feel very fine today :)
Edit: forgot to mention that I felt brave last weekend and decided on trying plugging as ROA. My man cringded at the mere thought of it but from what I've read I didn't expect it to be all that bad with pure stuff like CC's. I used a small 1ml syringe without needle and dissolved 3/4 of my nasal dosage in water. It felt just slightly uncomfortable for a few minutes but to my surprise it didn't hurt or burn at all. The small dosage worked just fine but I didn't have the rush feeling that snorting gives me. For me the coming up/general feeling was similar to that from oral administration.
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There is one puzzling bit of phrasing which, for the life of me, I cannot understand. (and I speak "foreigner") Well here it is, if anyone can decipher this I'd be amazed
" BM (but butthurt because impurity & rascally pricing in the beginning) <---- WTF does that mean????
I expected more for the former (high) price and was disappointed due to the impurity. That's all.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/butthurt
Other than that, I am grateful for BM's first batch, which although waxy, I understand was just a result of trying to get it out to us as fast as possible, and yes probably hastily so.
This in turn I had not considered. Sounds plausible.
Sunday I took 10mg of BM orally (starting safe and all after being sober for a few days) and I was speeding my ass off in a positive way. from 10 lousy mg, could'nt barely see the tiny little pile on my scale!!!!!
The day after I snorted 15+15+15+5mg and wasn't even close to being as speedy as the day before. Really left me wondering if my mucous membrane is too dry or something?? Is this even possible?
I think it is due to the tolerance.
During the week, I was sober and from Friday to Saturday I consumed 30mg and was well served.
On Sunday, it took 70mg to achieve the same effect. (both orally in gelatin capsules and at same setting/feeding)
@jagfug
I recommend you to use empty gelatin capsules.
Packs of 1000 pieces are cheap to purchase in online pharmacies.
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For anyone still waiting on their CC order, you'll be relieved to know that mine only arrived today, even though I live in southern Europe.
Ordered: 9th Jan
Shipped: 10th Jan
Postal date on the letter: 16th Jan (this isn't CC's fault)
So, there's just a giant delay with the first batch. Otherwise everything looks great: totally dry, barely any smell, discreet.
I'll hold off on a detailed review since I've been using quite a bit of BM's stuff in the previous weeks, but so far it's pretty good: clean and no body load.
Thank you for this information!
I just extended due date in the resolution center.
date shipped: January 14
It seems i have to wait till end of the week.
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So speed, (phet, amph, crank) amphetamine to be specific, is quite caustic to the lining of the nose, in it's purest form, and can never be 100% pure, because it's not stable in a powder form.
I may have the phrasing wrong, but I think you know what I mean.
If I were to get purer speed than BM's, without the leftover base, which was an oversight on his part, I would not be too happy with the effects on my sinuses, as the closer I get to purity, the harsher it would be on the delicate capillaries of the sinuses. This is based on what I've learned from the forum, as there is no other truer source. All having to do with the ph, if I'm not mistaken?
I was referring to these lines I guess. Also BM's should be less caustic with the leftover base, because the base has a pH of 8 I think, but idk if this is noticeable at all. CC's amph is hurting my nose in the same way. Those who really want to snort it regularly might wanna cut it, but oral ingestion is better anyway. The other 2 ways of ingestion are both better for sure, but I never tried them..
also "it's not stable in a powder form." is pretty wrong, its only stable in powder form as a salt :-*. 100% are not achievable, because its impossible to control a chemical reaction in a way to only produce the product. You will always get intermediate-reactions and back-reactions etc. The 96% from BM's last batch are probably close to the max, without a high-tech lab.
I was confused about pH meassure when it comes drugs (chemicals) in solid states. I am not addressing anybody just want to explain it what ph is all about :)
Amph base (water unsoluble) or any drug in freebase form does not have pH, or better to say we can not meassure it. Drugs has pka. Water with dissolved drug has pH (when its protonated), so actually we meassure water medium. Solid chemicals has pka and when dissolved in the water, only then we can meassure pH. Non polar chemicals does not have pH. Pka value detirmine half protonated substance so we can tell at wich ph point they will be fully (de)protonated. With amph in salt form what is fully water soluble and with adjusting water pH level by adding alkali, amphetamine salt start to convert to freebase. Basicly, we deprotonate amphetamine what start to separate from the water layer as an oil). With amph as freebase we can not dissolve it in the water but same apply (we can dissolve it in non polar solvent); with different acid concetrations (h2so4,hcl) what are in other terms water+acid at low ph level, amphetamine will start conversion to salt because its protonated.
If we try to meassure amphetamine freebase ph level with ph strips it would not show anything.
Amphetamine base pka=9.9, means that at pka 7.9 or lower in the water, amphetamine will start to protonate and dissolve because it is coverted to water soluble salt. (± 2 pka from starting pka value buffer range). By lowering water ph level with adding acid and thus drug in base form is protonated and became salt.
Amph sulfate when pure can irritate nose as many other drugs in salt form. Methaphetamine.hcl and methadone.hcl both irritate and pain to the nose, nothing to do with pH. Trust me, I have them both pharm grade pure.
Try to snort common nacl (table salt), and see what happens,lol. It may depend on case by case. Some are more sensitive then others.
Sorry for bad english, somebody who understand the subject can explain it better then me.
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What the hell?
I was lead to believe by the posts in this thread that people dabbled everyday.
I took iisthisis stuff until I finished it and a couple of days after I started on CC
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hi Speed experts !!
got some questions for you ..if i may ask....
should i sell my stuff dried ?
should i also sell a average street speed like in the street in Holland here on Sr as well...and make that my budget price fighter...?
You should definitely sell your speed dry, or even washed with an appropriate solvent. That said, I think competing with BM or CC in the high-grade segment will be economically difficult as they probably have better profit margins.
Still, wash it! Once the speed is washed you can cut it to ~50% with something inert like lactose. Just make sure to write in your product description that you've cut it with substance X to an approximate purity of Y%. I can think of lots of reason why people would buy above-average-grade speed even when high-grade stuff is available, and those buyers will appreciate knowing what's in there other than amphetamine.
I would definitely give HollandOnliine and AfterDark a try. Just as soon as I get my stinking paws on some CC ! "You damn dirty ape!" ::)
While I do get the reference, I'd still avoid calling someone from South Africa a damn dirty ape :)
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What's your point commodore?
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hi Speed experts !!
got some questions for you ..if i may ask....
should i sell my stuff dried ?
should i also sell a average street speed like in the street in Holland here on Sr as well...and make that my budget price fighter...?
You should definitely sell your speed dry, or even washed with an appropriate solvent. That said, I think competing with BM or CC in the high-grade segment will be economically difficult as they probably have better profit margins.
Still, wash it! Once the speed is washed you can cut it to ~50% with something inert like lactose. Just make sure to write in your product description that you've cut it with substance X to an approximate purity of Y%. I can think of lots of reason why people would buy above-average-grade speed even when high-grade stuff is available, and those buyers will appreciate knowing what's in there other than amphetamine.
I would definitely go for pure amphet cut with 25% glucose or whatever is unharmful and stable. From the sounds of things I should probably avoid BM and CC since I have a tendency to overdo it! Could just stick with HollandOnline's batch if he's willing to give up the leftover product, apart from amphet.
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If you have a tendency to overdo it, you'll overdo it with HO's gear too. Only difference is you will take more of it and thus ingest more unknown cutting agents with it.
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ValentineSmith - never even occurred to me how that may have sounded. For the record.
I was just hyper and blurted that out, I guess I could've left it at the first line, and see if anyone said it to me! :-[
I certainly wasn't calling anyone a name. Just very exited to try CC's gear, and out it came! - No intention there.
Great posts on page 275. Thanks to just about every one~! :)
I appreciate Mseller, Tempo, Stoney1980, Shamiroqai, and others for sharing their knowledge and experience. Seems to be bringing a nice variety of vendors out here. Competition is always good!
The day after the whole nose-burn, I got a good 8 hour sleep. Then just did oral doses, and stayed up two more days. Today's last dose (appr. 60 mg) was around 3pm and I'm planning on sleeping tonight.
I noticed the "bodyload" for me, was tachycardia mostly. I wanted to crash, but my heart was pounding like a tom-tom drum! :o Probably shouldn't have eyeballed it! It's all in square pieces just around
pinky-nail sized. But less is more, for sure. I can't keep a scale out all the time due to my living arrangements. So I will probably just put the rest in some capsules, like 50mg each. Great suggestion Tempo!
Hoping to sleep tonight. Got a xanax just in case. Though since supper, which I ate ;), I feel I probably wont need it. Definitely gotta force myself to eat sometimes.
BTW - I can get a rush when swallowing the speed, if I have an empty stomach! I take like 1/4" square (betw 50+75mg) and swallow with water, or beer actually seems to make it go faster into the blood! 8)
Peace + Goodnight
jagfug
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By the way, what the fuck is up with the 'bestselling' list in speed section?
100g from SuperTrips, 0.3g 'phosphate' from Juergen for almost 45$ :-\ and holy shit, even Jalapeno's caffeine is listed as a 'best selling' product..
Something need's to be changed here I think, or are there really that many people buying this crap? Feedback on the product pages doesn't really look that way ::)
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hi Speed experts !!
got some questions for you ..if i may ask....
should i sell my stuff dried ?..so you have no issue with weight loss..i give extra when wet or a bit wet.....but you will encounter quality loss when dried completely.....!!
should i also sell a average street speed like in the street in Holland here on Sr as well...and make that my budget price fighter...?
so...i can even make into 4 kinds..wet and dry....
its all possible.......i know what will sell though......and i know what will make me most profit......and so do you !!
interested to hear your opinions...and very eager to learn from you...
....i am not here in your topic to advocate my products at all....that's for my clients to decide....always..!!
Sincerely Yours,
HollandOnline
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I really like your vendor page. The marketing is very good and the prices are as well. I always look (And buy a lot) for the best and cheapest products. In that order. If the product is not the best, then it does not matter what the price is. If you are on the level (Pure, mostly powder to pure powder) of BM and CC then you will have my business for sure. It seems like you have the weight to dominate, but do you have the quality?
Also, it depends on what kind of customer base you want. The smart who are often going to have the monetary resources to buy a lot of your product, but are smart in all ways like figuring out what the best product. Or the not so smart (I think most are smart even to have found this place) who buy whatever is listed the cheapest and doesn't care about quality, but they are often with just enough money for their next fix.
Thank you for your request for input.
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Apologies in advance for the long post.. I received BM's waxy product on the 28th here in the US (shipped on the 18th, using "Priority"), and while I mostly like the effects, some concerns have arisen and I was hoping you guys could help with them before I leave feedback for the transaction. First off, I am familiar with adderall (IR/XR), Ruthenium's d-amp, and now BM's racemic amp (d and l in equal amounts -- correct me if this is not what it is supposed to be, but I thought I read that it was).
I am also familiar with 5mg Desoxyn, aka d-methamphetamine, through a handful that I lucked into not long ago, and I've got to say, BM's stuff feels just like Desoxyn. It doesn't feel like Adderall or D-amp really, although I suppose 75% d-amp in the adderall would probably overshadow the 25% l-amp, would it not? I am not use to an equal ratio of d-amp to l-amp, so I am not certain. I presume that at least some of you guys here know more extensively what meth and speed are like and can confirm that this is not in fact meth, or else someone would have mentioned it by now. It is interesting how similar it feels though, and puzzling as to why CC's gets such a different description. I am OK with the feeling, though it makes me want to goof off more.. I guess I am going to have to work on trying to control that.
A related question -- how is it possible for CC's racemic and BM's racemic to feel so differently from each other, based on the reports here? Unless I misread somewhere (it's REALLY difficult to search a 275 page thread on Speed for words like "BM" "CC" "racemic" and such without throwing away your afternoon.. night, and morning.. ;) ), isn't CC's also racemic? Shouldn't they feel identical? Or is it some kind of solvent residue that's causing the "body load"? BTW, the load to me feels like the desoxyn in that it is kind of like a heartburn feeling, and you are pretty horny. It also seems to last longer than my adderall or Ruth's d-amp did (still pretty noticeable 5 hours later, though definitely coming down now). I probably only took 8-10mg, but I am not sure. I didn't really get any tachycardia, or if I did, not very much at all, so that was nice.
BTW, it was waxy and off-white to yellow in color, and had an offensive smell. It leaves a chemical aftertaste in your mouth and breath which lingers for hours unless you do something about it. Not horrible, but it bothers me. What else is in this stuff? It does have that bitterness like Corpharma's adderall. The smell has gone down quite a bit since yesterday, but it is still very waxy. It is a little less dry, but it really wasn't that wet to begin with, and I don't know if the liquid would have been water or some other solvent. For comparison, Ruth's d-amp had little to no odor. After I eat it, I noticed some sharp, shooting tinges of pain in my head and which went away almost as quickly as they occurred. I never got that from pharma quality stuff, so it is curious. I am really interested to know what else it is that I'm ingesting BM, if you don't mind. I will read the posts from around the 25th/26th in this thread which explain how to wash it with acetone (what exactly is going on with this process?, what is being removed?).
Please let me know what you think, as I have not left feedback yet.. I wasdisappointed to read that washing will result in a loss of 20%, according to hellwind's post here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.msg763895#msg763895 , especially now that I see that I paid ~$24 more than the current 5g price with priority. Is this because of the wax? If so, it would seem that the claim that "This listing is for PURE amphetamine sulfate at >96% of purity by weight" is a disingenuous statement -- sold 5g but received 4g (actually, the weight was ~4.8g +/- .1g, including all that I could scrape off the packaging material earlier today -- like I said, not much weight evaporated away -- it was the same weight yesterday, although it is noticeably easier to break up now).
I may have to dock a point or two because of this. I wouldn't do it for a measly .1g off (since I don't imagine it's the easiest thing to measure out in the way it has been distributed/packaged), but 20% is significant and quite a bummer since it was sold as pure. Thoughts? A refund of the difference would certainly lead me to a 5 star rating.
as an aside -- holy crap! 1 BTC was $13.74 when I purchased on Jan 17 (10.44BTC total price for 5g Priority, or $143), and now it is $19.4 per BTC (listing is now $111+~$8 for priority or 6.13BTC). Y'all need to buy more gold, less bitcoin! ;)
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I just read some odd advice regarding acetone a few pages back and wouldn't to say just look at this:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/642313-MDMA-Ecstasy-The-Ultimate-Clean-Filter-Acetone-Wash-amp-Crystalization
To make anhydrous (read: free of water, which can dissolve your amp) acetone, you only need a few things including acetone from a hardware store + epsom salts, which you bank to turn it into anhydrous magnesium sulphate, which absorbs water -- though I can't seem to find out exactly how it does this.
Anyway, that link is a full tutorial from start to finish to clean your material of interest (as long as it's not dissoluble in acetone)
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hey jakers, got some quotes for you. I have no clue though what is causing the differences compared to CC for example, but his current batch feels like the last batch to me, which was lab-tested at 96% I think.
In case you gonna order from BM again in the future and mention you were among the poor souls, who got the waxy stuff, I am sure he will add a gram as compensation.
Hello,
I'm sorry for your experience jagfug, the wax is only a little of amphetamine freebase leftover, it's sticky, it has a fishy amphetamine smell and it's not soluble in water.
That's why the body isn't able to absorb it through the nostrils and it sticks to it's walls. And that's why your nose wanted to get rid of it producing liquid.
Welcome,
We have been working on the "waxy" texture problem of our product and it has been solved, every order shipped from now on will be a powder of a higher quality and almost bone dry.
For those who already bought the waxy amphetamine and want to get rid of the little impurity can just rinse the product with acetone, ethanol or IPA, then filter it with a coffee filter paper and let it dry.
We are so sorry for the hassle.
Kind regards
BM
Hello,
In a non stereoselective synthesis as we use it's really impossible to get a racemic mixture of "25% dextro and 75% levo or something".
Just imagine that every molecule of precursor that reacts has the same probability of reducing into l-amphetamine or d-amphetamine, as it's 50% probability and the number of molecules is enormous, it's safe to say that the racemic mixture is very close to 50:50.
The placebo effects are 50% of all the effects of a drug, it's really subjective, indeed, one can experience the symptoms of amphetamine without actually taking it, just by thinking he actually did.
We can analyze the % of amphetamine, the % of enantiomers and even the spin of the electrons if you want, but it'll not change the extremely low accuracy of human subjective opinion.
@mseller thank you for that explanation :)
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A related question -- how is it possible for CC's racemic and BM's racemic to feel so differently from each other, based on the reports here? Unless I misread somewhere (it's REALLY difficult to search a 275 page thread on Speed for words like "BM" "CC" "racemic" and such without throwing away your afternoon.. night, and morning.. ;) ), isn't CC's also racemic? Shouldn't they feel identical? Or is it some kind of solvent residue that's causing the "body load"? BTW, the load to me feels like the desoxyn in that it is kind of like a heartburn feeling, and you are pretty horny. It also seems to last longer than my adderall or Ruth's d-amp did (still pretty noticeable 5 hours later, though definitely coming down now). I probably only took 8-10mg, but I am not sure. I didn't really get any tachycardia, or if I did, not very much at all, so that was nice.
BTW, it was waxy and off-white to yellow in color, and had an offensive smell. It leaves a chemical aftertaste in your mouth and breath which lingers for hours unless you do something about it. Not horrible, but it bothers me. What else is in this stuff? It does have that bitterness like Corpharma's adderall. The smell has gone down quite a bit since yesterday, but it is still very waxy. It is a little less dry, but it really wasn't that wet to begin with, and I don't know if the liquid would have been water or some other solvent. For comparison, Ruth's d-amp had little to no odor. After I eat it, I noticed some sharp, shooting tinges of pain in my head and which went away almost as quickly as they occurred. I never got that from pharma quality stuff, so it is curious. I am really interested to know what else it is that I'm ingesting BM, if you don't mind. I will read the posts from around the 25th/26th in this thread which explain how to wash it with acetone (what exactly is going on with this process?, what is being removed?).
little time, but interesting question.
First of all: racemic means a perfect 50:50 mixture of both enantiomers (dextro and levo).
I first read this in a scientific paper where researchers treated coke addicts(??) with d-amph: they analyzed the urine and if they found some l-amph they knew that the test subject did street-speed (simplified). They also analyzed the speed samples and found that a lot of them were not racemic, but could be off by up to 20% in their respective d/l-enantiomer ratio. They also concluded that this was caused by the manufacturing process. So depending on how and with what precursor it was made the d/l-ratio might change. If it's high on the l-enantiomer side, it should give in theory more of a body rush than some amph-sulphate that's racemic or high on the d-side.
Another factor that might be at play here are the impurities that are introduced during manufacture and are characteristic for a certain precursor and process ("impurity-profiling"). With the amph as "carrier" (so I have read) those could cross the BBB more easily and be active in much smaller amounts. Most of these are only researched in respect of how and where they get in to the amph, not what effects on the human they might cause.
Only if you manufacture 99.999% pure amph you can be absolutely certain that none of these factors are at work.
So to answer the question: unless pharma grade (99.9%) it's possible that different routes of manufacture will yield different products and hence have different effects. Another extremely important factor is the psyche. My rough estimation is that 60-80% of reports on varying (side)effects are caused by differences in set&setting, perception (of the product) and expectation. Happens that I was among those who coined the connection "BM has body-load", but it was never meant the way it is interpreted now. The term is often used for negative or positive body experience (yes, also by native speakers), but some use it only to describe the negative side. This took over and carried on until now. For me this is somewhat funny to watch, as everyone just assumes from the early reviews that there will be unpleasant body-load when most reviews actually never suggested that, when read in detail. Point is: placebo-like effects will change your perception of the experience probably the most. People who expect body-load (e.g. rapid heartbeat, high blood-pressure) will get it. Amph-Sulphate just does that to the body. No way around it. But expecting it often means noticing it more. IMHO: subtle changes can be triggered by subtle differences in the product, but your head is where the experience changes.
The waxy part can be washed out, at best it's actually still freebase (pure amph). At worst it's a byproduct of manufacture.
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another thing: psyche being a huge factor doesn't mean experienced users can't tell them apart. I tried myself, taking capsules which I never knew the content of (a selected group) and I was always correct, to my own surprise.
hey jakers, got some quotes for you. I have no clue though what is causing the differences compared to CC for example, but his current batch feels like the last batch to me, which was lab-tested at 96% I think.
CC tested at 80% per weight.
BM at 96% per weight.
iisi at 92% per weight.
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By the way, what the fuck is up with the 'bestselling' list in speed section?
100g from SuperTrips, 0.3g 'phosphate' from Juergen for almost 45$ :-\ and holy shit, even Jalapeno's caffeine is listed as a 'best selling' product..
Something need's to be changed here I think, or are there really that many people buying this crap? Feedback on the product pages doesn't really look that way ::)
sorry for spam: I think the "financial weight" of the vendor is somehow taken into account as well for the algorithm calculating these. Hence me suggesting that selling only 1 and 2g won't necessarily move them higher up in the ranking. They probably keep some sort of "all time hi(gh)score" as well which skews results even further. It's safe to assume that most of these score based calculations are done in a very whacky fashion. SR doesn't seem to care about that (it's the "good enough" approach :P).
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little time, but interesting question.
First of all: racemic means a perfect 50:50 mixture of both enantiomers (dextro and levo).
I first read this in a scientific paper where researchers treated coke addicts(??) with d-amph: they analyzed the urine and if they found some l-amph they knew that the test subject did street-speed (simplified). They also analyzed the speed samples and found that a lot of them were not racemic, but could be off by up to 20% in their respective d/l-enantiomer ratio. They also concluded that this was caused by the manufacturing process. So depending on how and with what precursor it was made the d/l-ratio might change. If it's high on the l-enantiomer side, it should give in theory more of a body rush than some amph-sulphate that's racemic or high on the d-side.
Another factor that might be at play here are the impurities that are introduced during manufacture and are characteristic for a certain precursor and process ("impurity-profiling"). With the amph as "carrier" (so I have read) those could cross the BBB more easily and be active in much smaller amounts. Most of these are only researched in respect of how and where they get in to the amph, not what effects on the human they might cause.
Only if you manufacture 99.999% pure amph you can be absolutely certain that none of these factors are at work.
So to answer the question: unless pharma grade (99.9%) it's possible that different routes of manufacture will yield different products and hence have different effects. Another extremely important factor is the psyche. My rough estimation is that 60-80% of reports on varying (side)effects are caused by differences in set&setting, perception (of the product) and expectation. Happens that I was among those who coined the connection "BM has body-load", but it was never meant the way it is interpreted now. The term is often used for negative or positive body experience (yes, also by native speakers), but some use it only to describe the negative side. This took over and carried on until now. For me this is somewhat funny to watch, as everyone just assumes from the early reviews that there will be unpleasant body-load when most reviews actually never suggested that, when read in detail. Point is: placebo-like effects will change your perception of the experience probably the most. People who expect body-load (e.g. rapid heartbeat, high blood-pressure) will get it. Amph-Sulphate just does that to the body. No way around it. But expecting it often means noticing it more. IMHO: subtle changes can be triggered by subtle differences in the product, but your head is where the experience changes.
The waxy part can be washed out, at best it's actually still freebase (pure amph). At worst it's a byproduct of manufacture.
Muslix you beautiful son of a bitch, I could fucking kiss you. If you had any goddamn idea how long I've been on the look out for precisely what you have just given me -- years... literally. Never made it enough of a point to really research it, but I've always wanted an answer, and by God you've just given me at least a working theory. Cheers mate.
Also, your appraisal of BMs purity vs. CCs feels (speaking from a purely subjective standpoint, mind you) almost spot on. BMs stuff has always felt amazingly potent to me. Noticeably moreso than CCs current stock. With that said, I still strongly prefer CCs product. BMs stuff just doesn't give me what I want. It gives me everything I don't and almost nothing that I do. CCs may be less potent in the end, but at least I can rely on it to get the job done.
P.S.- Regarding the corepharma adderall thing, they do not put refined sugar in their adderall, hence it's more bitter taste. Yes, Barr for example puts actual sugar in adderall to make it taste better.
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little time, but interesting question.
First of all: racemic means a perfect 50:50 mixture of both enantiomers (dextro and levo).
I first read this in a scientific paper where researchers treated coke addicts(??) with d-amph: they analyzed the urine and if they found some l-amph they knew that the test subject did street-speed (simplified). They also analyzed the speed samples and found that a lot of them were not racemic, but could be off by up to 20% in their respective d/l-enantiomer ratio. They also concluded that this was caused by the manufacturing process.
"Using amphetamine isomer ratios to determine the compliance of amphetamine abusers prescribed dexedrine."
George S, Braithwaite RA.
PubMed: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10774542
Full text: http://jat.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/223.full.pdf
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Thanks for the responses, though was hoping for comment from BM in particular. However also thank you for the quoting of BM's post regarding the freebase. If this is true, what is the reason for hellfire's report that washing with acetone resulted in a loss of 20% mass? 1) has anyone else dissolved away the freebase and compared mass? 2) did hellfire use anhydrous acetone or was water and/or humidity the culprit? BM, what loss should I expect, assuming newly made anhydrous acetone used in dry air and completely filling and sealing whatever container I use to perform the dissolving?
Apparently, you need to add acid to turn a freebase into a salt right? So dissolving it in acetone instead will end up removing all of that freebase which otherwise could be useful. I would like to know how much will be lost..
Is there a better way, to add acetic acid perhaps, so that we don't lose product? And if so, where do I get it :)
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I took a sample of my waxy BM stuff to the lab last week and got the results today; 55% amphetamine and no other notable substances. Measured the dutch way so that is 55% out of a maximum of 73% and would translate to 75% absolute. I'm not sure what exact analysis they use at the lab but I'm guessing that freebase amphetamine does not show up on the results (or at least so I hope..). I know BM apologized and all but I still feel a bit disappointed to be honest.
I also left a sample of HollandOnline at the lab today so I'll probably have the results on that next week.
And about the DIY anhydrous acetone; I picked up a jar of the infamous epsom salts at a local health store yesterday (it's actually called 'bittersalt' here, but the only ingredient listed on the jar is magnesium sulfate) so I'm gonna try and dehydrate my >99% acetone some time later this week.
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I took a sample of my waxy BM stuff to the lab last week and got the results today; 55% amphetamine and no other notable substances. Measured the dutch way so that is 55% out of a maximum of 73% and would translate to 75% absolute. I'm not sure what exact analysis they use at the lab but I'm guessing that freebase amphetamine does not show up on the results (or at least so I hope..). I know BM apologized and all but I still feel a bit disappointed to be honest.
Result is meassured as a amphetamine freebase (thus that 73% equilant opposed to 100% amphetamine as a sulfate.)
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Kinda doubt they would check for freebase, as freebase alone is not psychoactive, but disappointing yeah..
I made an acetone wash of BM's gear today, the acetone is from a lab supplier. No ingredients mentioned except acetone, so I guess its ~100%.
Lost ~24% weight in the process, was my first acetone wash though. I decanted gently after letting it rest for 5 minutes and put in on a mirror afterwards, where I chopped it - didn't use a coffee filter. Final product is a very fine and entirely white powder - one sneezer and all would be gone^^.
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I should definitely check in here more often xD Got that "waxy" gear from BM as well, its pretty potent though, but almost impossible to dry... Glad iam not the only one experiencing that shit ! But as is received double amount, i should not complain i guess. Still waiting for CC's gear which i ordered 2 weeks ago. Heard that Powerade is going to put listings up again this weekend, his last batch i found pretty awesome, will order from him for sure once his listings are up.
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Kinda doubt they would check for freebase, as freebase alone is not psychoactive, but disappointing yeah..
I made an acetone wash of BM's gear today, the acetone is from a lab supplier. No ingredients mentioned except acetone, so I guess its ~100%.
Lost ~24% weight in the process, was my first acetone wash though. I decanted gently after letting it rest for 5 minutes and put in on a mirror afterwards, where I chopped it - didn't use a coffee filter. Final product is a very fine and entirely white powder - one sneezer and all would be gone^^.
Nah, they don't check for freebase deliberately, but I'm pretty sure that they dissolve the salt to test it. Which means that freebase will show up on the results if it's soluble in that particular solvent. I'm not an expert so.. in theory :)
Thanks for the tip on decantation by the way! I had amphetamine sticking to my coffee filter and coffee filter particles in my amphetamine last time I tried washing a product so this definitely sounds like a better plan.
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I took a sample of my waxy BM stuff to the lab last week and got the results today; 55% amphetamine and no other notable substances. Measured the dutch way so that is 55% out of a maximum of 73% and would translate to 75% absolute. I'm not sure what exact analysis they use at the lab but I'm guessing that freebase amphetamine does not show up on the results (or at least so I hope..). I know BM apologized and all but I still feel a bit disappointed to be honest.
I also left a sample of HollandOnline at the lab today so I'll probably have the results on that next week.
And about the DIY anhydrous acetone; I picked up a jar of the infamous epsom salts at a local health store yesterday (it's actually called 'bittersalt' here, but the only ingredient listed on the jar is magnesium sulfate) so I'm gonna try and dehydrate my >99% acetone some time later this week.
Thanks for your contribution mate. Lab results are more than welcome over here. I will post the results of Evilutions speed today or next week. It depends on when the results are back. Also you could just try to freeze and filter your acetone. Any water contents will be frozen and filtered out. No idea if this is an accurate process but if it is, it is really simple. Then again epsom salts are also regularly available.
Edit: I have just checked my regular drugstore acetone. There are definitely frozen water clumps in the bottom of the bottle.
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Kinda doubt they would check for freebase, as freebase alone is not psychoactive, but disappointing yeah..
Stoney and vxn, will try to explain...
Amphetamine regardless of their form (base or salt) are fully psychoactive. Pharmacology speaking which form has better bioavlibility is another matter. All drugs are tested as freebase because molecular weight is known. When in salt form mw changes depend on which salt and testing lab does not speculate what salt that really is. So testing facillity first convert salt to base and do analasys, results are shown as amphetamine base concetrantion (percentage).
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Stoney and vxn, will try to explain...
Amphetamine regardless of their form (base or salt) are fully psychoactive. Pharmacology speaking which form has better bioavlibility is another matter. All drugs are tested as freebase because molecular weight is known. When in salt form mw changes depend on which salt and testing lab does not speculate what salt that really is. So testing facillity first convert salt to base and do analasys, results are shown as amphetamine base concetrantion (percentage).
Thanks for the explanation! Although it's a bummer for interpreting the test results. From what you are saying I understand that the freebase left in the waxy product does indeed count towards the 75% purity, wheras my body cannot absorb it through nasal or oral administration.
Thanks for your contribution mate. Lab results are more than welcome over here. I will post the results of Evilutions speed today or next week. It depends on when the results are back.
Nice! I'd love to get lab results on CC's stuff too but I'm not sure if I'm willing to part with 100mg's of my stash since I love his stuff so much already :D
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I gave it another try with BM and am curious if the quality/consistency is right this time. (clean, dry..)
And this weekend I will also venture to the filtering of the first waxy delivery.
CC's letter finally arrived yesterday, but I still never got around to weigh or test.
Thank you for your commitment vxn, regarding the verifications!
Very interesting!
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speedie also tested BM's latest batch, pretty much rame result as vxn:
Muesli
The results of BM sample is 53% speed and 2 % cafeine.
I think that the traces of caffeine are my fault because I had the stuff in a box that I used before.
So 53/73*100 is 73 % almost the same result as the other one
Can you put this on the forum under my name because I am a newbie ( 18 Posts ) and not allowed to post at the moment.
I have to solve this problem but at the moment I have no idea and time.
Regards Speedie
I have testing opportunity Fri/Sat/Sun with full access, results within an hour. Test as much as I want. Again, when I need it the least. Never bought from CC, due to mini amounts being sold. TBH: Kinda disappointed as the very first customer to get ignored since October(?), while others got what they asked for. Just sayin' ... as I always keep/kept it honest here. BM's powder won't reach me in time, so nothing to test with the possibly best access I ever had. haha.
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Stoney and vxn, will try to explain...
Amphetamine regardless of their form (base or salt) are fully psychoactive. Pharmacology speaking which form has better bioavlibility is another matter. All drugs are tested as freebase because molecular weight is known. When in salt form mw changes depend on which salt and testing lab does not speculate what salt that really is. So testing facillity first convert salt to base and do analasys, results are shown as amphetamine base concetrantion (percentage).
Do you have any literature to back that up? I don't think they just convert salt to base, as they have no idea what else is in there and what will happen with those adulterants. So it has to be a bit more sophisticated than that. Also, they need a reference (eg CH uses AmphHCl) which doesn't really fit in to your theory. If I go this weekend I can ask (the actual chemists who are doing the testing).
edit: freebase will show up, CH tests all speed "pastes" if they really are paste (salt + freebase) and they never found one.
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receieved BM's stuff, mine is powdery, underweight slightly and doesn't come close to CCs stuff.
CC much better imho
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Stoney and vxn, will try to explain...
Amphetamine regardless of their form (base or salt) are fully psychoactive. Pharmacology speaking which form has better bioavlibility is another matter. All drugs are tested as freebase because molecular weight is known. When in salt form mw changes depend on which salt and testing lab does not speculate what salt that really is. So testing facillity first convert salt to base and do analasys, results are shown as amphetamine base concetrantion (percentage).
Do you have any literature to back that up? I don't think they just convert salt to base, as they have no idea what else is in there and what will happen with those adulterants. So it has to be a bit more sophisticated than that. Also, they need a reference (eg CH uses AmphHCl) which doesn't really fit in to your theory. If I go this weekend I can ask (the actual chemists who are doing the testing).
edit: freebase will show up, CH tests all speed "pastes" if they really are paste (salt + freebase) and they never found one.
Only general article: METHODS FOR THE IDENTIFICATION AND ANALYSIS OF AMPHETAMINE
http://www.unodc.org/pdf/scientific/stnar34.pdf
There are a lot of more data what I advice everyone to read :)
(ATS is shortcut for amphetamine type stimulans)
Amphetamine: Illicit amphetamine is frequently encountered as the sulphate salt in powder form, and rarely as tablet. Amphetamine base may be seized in clandestine laboratories, typically as a dark brown oily liquid with a characteristic unpleasant smell of 1-phenyl-2-propanone (P-2-P) and/or solvent residues.
Regarding TLC testing;
Preparation of ATS standard and sample solutions
The form of standards and samples, salt or base, is unimportant. Either form will be satisfactory. Because of the basic nature of the developing solvents, the compounds migrate as free bases.
GAS CHROMATOGRAPHY (GC)—FLAME IONIZATIONDETECTOR (FID)
ATS standard solutions: weigh approximately 25 mg of ATS standard salt(s) of interest into a 25 ml volumetric flask and make up to the mark with water. Pipette an aliquot of 1 to 5 ml of this solution into a 10 ml glass stoppered test tube. Add drop-wise a 5% solution of sodium hydroxide until pH 10. Then add 5 ml of extracting solvent.
Stopper and invert the test tube at least 10 times or vortex for 1 min and let stand until layers separate. Using a Pasteur pipette, transfer the solvent layer
(e.g., chloroform) through anhydrous sodium sulphate layer into a GC vial.
Inject 1-2 l of the solvent layer into the GC.
ATS sample solutions (unknown ATS sample): weigh 25 to 150 mg of sample, depending on the anticipated purity, to obtain a final concentration of about 1 mg/ml of analyte salt, into a 25 ml volumetric flask and make up to the mark with water. The anticipated sample purity is determined empirically.
Identification is accomplished by comparing the retention time of the analyte with that of a reference standard. The elution order is as follows:
amphetamine < methamphetamine < pseudoephedrine < ephedrine < PMA < PMMA < MDA < MDMA < 4-MTA < MDEA < MBDB < 2C-B.
Under the conditions described, caffeine and ketamine, which are frequently found in ATS samples in some regions, elute after 2C-B.
If ATS standards in the base form are used, extraction is not required. In those cases, weigh no less than approximately 10 mg of ATS standard and dissolve directly in 10 ml of accurately dispensed internal standard solution. For accurate quantitation, it is important that the form of the analyte (salt or base) be the same as that of the ATS standard.
ATS standards can be obtained in the base form. In those cases, extraction is not required. In general, however, it is important that the form of standards and samples be always the same.
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Testing lab must always make sure that testing sample is in the same form (either salt or freebase).
TAke a look that they make ats solvent basic at pH 10 and using chloroform as extraction solvent where amph base is soluble, when as a sulfate is unsoluble.
To sumirise, with TLC form is not relevant because during test salt migrate as freebase anyway. With GC sample (I am speaking regarding testing of amphetamine, methamphetamine and their ring-subtituted analogues) can be in either form but they need to do conversion to make sure sample in unique form e.g. base or salt.
Well, or have I misunderstunf something?
Hope it helps and good karma :)
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still waiting on a response from BM before leaving feedback.. how long do you guys typically wait? He/they havn't even read my message. Oh crap, nevermind. Now it appears I can't leave feedback anymore. Dammit there goes my leverage.
So if we lose 20-25% when washing, and if we'd only waited a week to purchase we could have gotten the 100% salt form, 25% more than I'd end up with otherwise, for about 25% less money. And I can't insulfflate this without spending another $12. Thanks, I guess I won't be using BM anymore! >:(
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Hang on there Jakers! I too got the "waxy" BM 1st of the year. Although it's not the best snorting amph, it still is above average. - If you read back the past few pages, you'll see I had a major reaction to it. Had I been less experienced on here, I might have felt "wronged" somehow, and that I would chastise him on forums or Feedback. -
First off, you received your order. The ROA or "Route of Administration" of the drug, is never guaruanteed, unless they actuually say something like "snorters delight" or "clean to shoot" etc.
That being said, I was kind of disappointed. I also realized, I could swallow the same amount I'd make a few lines out of (approx 50mgs). - I found this worked better than I had predicted!
Even after a few days, I was still taking doses, just like it was my Adderall prescription. Here we are a week from when I received my 2 grams, and I "still" have some left!
Today was the 1st day I dared to sniff some. I made sure to let it dry out for 24 hours, and chop it up good. - Was still offensive, but I just did a little for the rush. It wasn't so bad!
BM will see your post, and either post here about it, or PM you. At the very least, he'll offer to give you a healthy "exrtra" bit on your next order.
You're still sitting on some good amph! - Try 30-50 mgs orally. Either drop it on the back of the tongue followed by a beer or even just water. Or use a gel-cap. (empty out a vitamin or something if you don't have any on hand) - Then wait like 10-20 mins. - You WILL feel it!! ;D
BTW- You can always edit feedback. You're obviously new here, so just take it easy. You'll learn to "look before you leap" a little more as you go on.
Peace
jagfug
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still waiting on a response from BM before leaving feedback.. how long do you guys typically wait? He/they havn't even read my message. Oh crap, nevermind. Now it appears I can't leave feedback anymore. Dammit there goes my leverage.
So if we lose 20-25% when washing, and if we'd only waited a week to purchase we could have gotten the 100% salt form, 25% more than I'd end up with otherwise, for about 25% less money. And I can't insulfflate this without spending another $12. Thanks, I guess I won't be using BM anymore! >:(
seriously, that batch wasn't as perfect as the last one, but its still a lot better and cheaper than everything you get on street and most stuff you get on SR and its not cut with whatever..
according to that list: http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/stats11/ppptab8a I would have to buy and wash like 15g german street-gear to get 1 g of the quality BM delivered.
You can change your feedback on SR under account -> view feedback ;) silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/account/view_feedback
@commodore64 nice review would read again :-*
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Hey Jakers, I agrre fully with jagfug and stoney.
We all can only speculate on what is waxy substance on BM speed. I have posted only basic process involved without intention of commenting testing result of his speed. Sr waited a looong time for good speed and his is really good. Iam also sure he will make it right to you just give it little time.
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Greetings
So stock is just about depleted. BUT work has already begun on a new big batch which will be released the end of this month. I'm going to be having some really great specials on bigger quantities so get some coins ready for the end of the month.
Best regards
CC
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Greetings
So stock is just about depleted. BUT work has already begun on a new big batch which will be released the end of this month. I'm going to be having some really great specials on bigger quantities so get some coins ready for the end of the month.
Best regards
CC
Whew! #:-s
I just made it in under the wire !! :)
Still looking forward to my first try! - I hope this month continues on this good trend. The last time I had coin you had taken the listings down to catch up from the rush, and I just couldn't wait.
Oh well, live and learn! (My order is IN this time!)
Thanks for keeping us informed CC!
Peace
jagfug '69
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We all can only speculate on what is waxy substance on BM speed.
No, that's all most people here can do.
We know it is 75% Amphetamine Sulfate.
We know roughly 25% washes out with acetone, chloroform, ethanol.
We know it's consistency, smell, solubility in water.
We know what shows up on test centre results and what doesn't.
We know the main precursors used in Europe.
We know what looks, smells, tastes like a duck, probably is a duck.
Therefore those who can put 1+1 together, can do a bit more than speculate. For the rest of you: it's a duck.
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Well, or have I misunderstunf something?
Hope it helps and good karma :)
I think muslix' point was that you were oversimplifying things. The main point of the test-centre analysis is to find out if what you bring in really is what you expected and, if it is not what the adulterants are.
receieved BM's stuff, mine is powdery, underweight slightly and doesn't come close to CCs stuff.
CC much better imho
you an idiot imho
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We all can only speculate on what is waxy substance on BM speed.
No, that's all most people here can do.
We know it is 75% Amphetamine Sulfate.
We know roughly 25% washes out with acetone, chloroform, ethanol.
We know it's consistency, smell, solubility in water.
We know what shows up on test centre results and what doesn't.
We know the main precursors used in Europe.
We know what looks, smells, tastes like a duck, probably is a duck.
Therefore those who can put 1+1 together, can do a bit more than speculate. For the rest of you: it's a duck.
So basicly, you know what waxy substance really is. I repeat, I have never commented any vendor speed or involved into discusion what is that waxy substance. Only provided general methods of lab testing process involved.
BTW why you are talking in third person then.... start to talk what *you* know or "think" to know...
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Well, or have I misunderstunf something?
Hope it helps and good karma :)
I think muslix' point was that you were oversimplifying things. The main point of the test-centre analysis is to find out if what you bring in really is what you expected and, if it is not what the adulterants are.
Oversimplifying things? Dont know what you mean. I have just pointing out how testing process work and sample preparations.
Have you read testing method from link in that post? You have misunderstand what muslix question and whatever they test in freebase or salt form? He asked for litterature and I have provided it with many testing methods and how that actually work.
BTW
What your said to commodore64 is totaly uncalled of.
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I'd say it"s either lidocaine base, cocamine, ephedrine or camphor (spelling?). Considering the heavy bodyload some people seem to get I'd guess it's ephedrine.
Edit: Call me an idiot too if you want lol but I also prefer CC over BM
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We all can only speculate on what is waxy substance on BM speed.
No, that's all most people here can do.
We know it is 75% Amphetamine Sulfate.
We know roughly 25% washes out with acetone, chloroform, ethanol.
We know it's consistency, smell, solubility in water.
We know what shows up on test centre results and what doesn't.
We know the main precursors used in Europe.
We know what looks, smells, tastes like a duck, probably is a duck.
Therefore those who can put 1+1 together, can do a bit more than speculate. For the rest of you: it's a duck.
So basicly, you know what waxy substance really is. I repeat, I have never commented any vendor speed or involved into discusion what is that waxy substance. Only provided general methods of lab testing process involved.
BTW why you are talking in third person then.... start to talk what *you* know or "think" to know...
You were talking for all of us. I just corrected you.
Basically I am pretty sure what it was. It's either been said already or it's not meant for the public to know.
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I'd say it"s either lidocaine base, cocamine, ephedrine or camphor (spelling?). Considering the heavy bodyload some people seem to get I'd guess it's ephedrine.
Edit: Call me an idiot too if you want lol but I also prefer CC over BM
Right, they would all go unnoticed in a lab analysis.
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We all can only speculate on what is waxy substance on BM speed.
No, that's all most people here can do.
We know it is 75% Amphetamine Sulfate.
We know roughly 25% washes out with acetone, chloroform, ethanol.
We know it's consistency, smell, solubility in water.
We know what shows up on test centre results and what doesn't.
We know the main precursors used in Europe.
We know what looks, smells, tastes like a duck, probably is a duck.
Therefore those who can put 1+1 together, can do a bit more than speculate. For the rest of you: it's a duck.
So basicly, you know what waxy substance really is. I repeat, I have never commented any vendor speed or involved into discusion what is that waxy substance. Only provided general methods of lab testing process involved.
BTW why you are talking in third person then.... start to talk what *you* know or "think" to know...
You were talking for all of us. I just corrected you.
Basically I am pretty sure what it was. It's either been said already or it's not meant for the public to know.
True lol, I did talked for all of us when said that we can only specaulate what waxy substance is, then you did the same thing with sating dozen arguments what does not count anything towards what exactly that waxy substance really is. Without certificate lab result where they name waxy substance you cant really correct me.
Basicly, no contra-argument of that I am wrong.
In other words, you specaulate. "Pretty sure" is close, but nevertheless its still speculation.
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I do not think that "speculation" is offensive term. I really did not mean to offend anybody. I can guess or have educated guessing, its still far from being sure with concrete lab result and declaration :)
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Is there a market (or SR Market) reason why the only speed available USA domestic is prescription or Meth?
Is it just that Americans love their pills or crank?
(Not a complaint, just noticed while window-shopping)
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So I just got around to trying the washed waxy BM. It is extremely strong, the amount necessary is very small. I do notice that is creates body chills and sweating where CC doesn't, but let's not get into this conversation again. On another note Evilution finally arrived after 17 (!) days, I am curious how this stuff will be in comparison.
CC, do you know when your next batch will be ready?
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Is there a market (or SR Market) reason why the only speed available USA domestic is prescription or Meth?
Is it just that Americans love their pills or crank?
(Not a complaint, just noticed while window-shopping)
Great question vorvon! And thank you for getting us away from the previous nonsense. (we're all here for the same reason, right?)
I have been bitten by the bug of European amphetamine, after getting fed up with the USA's unwavering "war on drugs", and my struggle to stay sane after being diagnosed with Adult ADHD-Pi about 30 years too late.
As to the question why? - I automatically assume that these countries (Germany, Netherlands, and their neighbors), have always produced some of the worlds finest chemists. I'm no historian specializing in chemists, but I'd bet a gram that the majority of the true geniuses have come from that part of the world.
America? Having lived 50 plus years here, I've realized what idiots we've become as a result of being fed the giant sewer pipe of Hollywood, and the wacko 60's leftist hippies, and their ilk, who currently run the Government Media Complex. Basically we've been systematically "dumbed-down" so much, it's almost impossible to find a discernible quality about our country folk that once made us great.
Like most countries on the verge of collapse, we're at that "Been too comfy for too long" stage. Nobody want's to work, create, make a better living for themselves. Accepting government handouts. Becoming increasingly dependent upon the gov't (big Sis) to take care of them.
Sorry for getting off on a rant there, but I needed it. :P
Now onto the business of the thread. I placed 3 orders for speed over 24 hours ago, yet only one is "in-transit" Hmm ???
Gotcha! - Hey, it was Saturday for all of us! - I look forward to a nice February. So far, 2013 isn't so bad !!! ;D
+1 Karma to you.
Thanks for advancing the thread.
Peace
jagfug
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CC, do you know when your next batch will be ready?
Hey Jack
As stated on the previous page it will be ready around the end of this month.
Thanks
CC
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This may be a blessing in disguise CC
Ambitious people are in no hurry
Gonna hold out till your listings are back up. I swear you replied to my PM in a matter of minutes.
Pure speed is way better than meth all round. It's really only if your a smoker you would prefer the crackola
Godspeed fellow fiends
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I had the pleasure of receiving Bungee54's cocaine (See other thread for review, packaging, speed, etc) and some speed paste.
Very generous vendor to send out a decent product across the pond.
All the fluid in the bag looked and smelled like poweraid's back when quality was scarce. The solvent had leaked into the second chamber, but still sealed and solid.
After scraping out a good part of the gram, lost around 25% of weight. Yes I a big fan of dried powder, wish vendors did that more often.
I did not have a long nighter to really take this for a test run, and I had two moderate size bumps of his cocaine, so I decided to place 30mg of dried powder into a gel pill. Took a good hour to feel anything. I have been taking anywhere from 10mg of detroamphetamine to 35mg of amphetamine sulfate daily with a break 1-3 days a week. Strictly BM and CC's gear, with basically the same daily physiological response. I know a small dose, but I have been needing a lot less with BM and CC and wanted to give a equal comparison.
I would put purity at ~20% with roughly the same amount of caffeine. I will be more sure on that when I try a higher dose at a later time.
Overall Bungee54 seems to be a pro, and would be very happy if they could increase the purity/quality of their products. Everything else, but the product was top notch.....they just need the most important element. Would work with them again if the amphetamine was dried out (Do a phosphate salt to be different) and with no cuts. Thanks again. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I had the pleasure of receiving Bungee54's cocaine (See other thread for review, packaging, speed, etc) and some speed paste.
Very generous vendor to send out a decent product across the pond.
All the fluid in the bag looked and smelled like poweraid's back when quality was scarce. The solvent had leaked into the second chamber, but still sealed and solid.
After scraping out a good part of the gram, lost around 25% of weight. Yes I a big fan of dried powder, wish vendors did that more often.
I did not have a long nighter to really take this for a test run, and I had two moderate size bumps of his cocaine, so I decided to place 30mg of dried powder into a gel pill. Took a good hour to feel anything. I have been taking anywhere from 10mg of detroamphetamine to 35mg of amphetamine sulfate daily with a break 1-3 days a week. Strictly BM and CC's gear, with basically the same daily physiological response. I know a small dose, but I have been needing a lot less with BM and CC and wanted to give a equal comparison.
I would put purity at ~20% with roughly the same amount of caffeine. I will be more sure on that when I try a higher dose at a later time.
Overall Bungee54 seems to be a pro, and would be very happy if they could increase the purity/quality of their products. Everything else, but the product was top notch.....they just need the most important element. Would work with them again if the amphetamine was dried out (Do a phosphate salt to be different) and with no cuts. Thanks again. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
THank your for your review SIr.
As you obeyed all the rules you will also of course get your refund for those samples.
BUT we wanted to tell you that we and a few other people heavily disagree with your rating here.
We buy this speed by the kilograms directly from kitchens in NL.
We waited a long time before we found this quality to sell here as we wanted clearly a good product.
That it is wet paste is pretty much the only thing we agree with you :) But you have been on of the first to order when we freshly opened up the packages.
Cheers!
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True lol, I did talked for all of us when said that we can only specaulate what waxy substance is, then you did the same thing with sating dozen arguments what does not count anything towards what exactly that waxy substance really is. Without certificate lab result where they name waxy substance you cant really correct me.
Basicly, no contra-argument of that I am wrong.
In other words, you specaulate. "Pretty sure" is close, but nevertheless its still speculation.
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I do not think that "speculation" is offensive term. I really did not mean to offend anybody. I can guess or have educated guessing, its still far from being sure with concrete lab result and declaration :)
No, it's not speculation. It's not one substance among an infinite set of substances. My point was it's actually a small set of substances, which can be narrowed down even further by excluding everything it is not. I am only pretty sure because I don't have anything no more.
That's the basics of qualitative analysis my friend. It's how people found out before high-tech chromatographs were used.
How does the current batch of CCs Sulfate compare to his last "sour" batch? I think mine arrived yesterday wont be able to test until two weeks from now though :-(
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Hopefully I will get CC's amf for this weekend. Is 25mg a good dose to start with if no prev exp? Also snorting it or bombing it? Either way do I have to do anything with it before intake like convert to freebase, clean it or something like that?
Usally I use Erowid for a source of a new drug I haven't taken before but not much info there about amf.
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True lol, I did talked for all of us when said that we can only specaulate what waxy substance is, then you did the same thing with sating dozen arguments what does not count anything towards what exactly that waxy substance really is. Without certificate lab result where they name waxy substance you cant really correct me.
Basicly, no contra-argument of that I am wrong.
In other words, you specaulate. "Pretty sure" is close, but nevertheless its still speculation.
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I do not think that "speculation" is offensive term. I really did not mean to offend anybody. I can guess or have educated guessing, its still far from being sure with concrete lab result and declaration :)
No, it's not speculation. It's not one substance among an infinite set of substances. My point was it's actually a small set of substances, which can be narrowed down even further by excluding everything it is not. I am only pretty sure because I don't have anything no more.
That's the basics of qualitative analysis my friend. It's how people found out before high-tech chromatographs were used.
No, it's not speculation. It's not one substance among an infinite set of substances. My point was it's actually a small set of substances, which can be narrowed down even further by excluding everything it is not.
I never claimed any of this and did not read where anybody say that is one substance among infinite set of substances.
How do you know its a set of substances and on what ground you detirmined it, and how can you exclude EVERYTHING it is not? Hoe can any of this bring you to knowing and to be pretty sure what (chemical name) waxy material is?
You are going around the issue which is - chemical name of the waxy substance or substanceS. To guess or speculate the chemical name of waxy material is pointless without proper testing equipmant. I am not saying that waxy substance IS or ISNOT amphetamine,lidocoine,lactose,amphbase,etc etc, marely that IMO we can only speculate/guess what that substance actually are.
Finaly, english is not my primary and I use term speculation same as guessing.
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Hopefully I will get CC's amf for this weekend. Is 25mg a good dose to start with if no prev exp? Also snorting it or bombing it? Either way do I have to do anything with it before intake like convert to freebase, clean it or something like that?
Usally I use Erowid for a source of a new drug I haven't taken before but not much info there about amf.
First you should ask yourself if you want to do a drug you don't know nothing about.
Second, you should not come here and complain if you get insomnia.
25mg should be ok to start with, snort it I'd suggest. Equals roughly one tab of 20mg Adderall. Wait 1hr for full effects, either snort more or take some xanax if too much. Repeat until high enough or in a warm and cosy hospital bed.
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No, it's not speculation. It's not one substance among an infinite set of substances. My point was it's actually a small set of substances, which can be narrowed down even further by excluding everything it is not. I am only pretty sure because I don't have anything no more.
That's the basics of qualitative analysis my friend. It's how people found out before high-tech chromatographs were used.
Did you dry the washed out substance? Why didn't I think of that :(
@mseller: statistically it's made from either: BMK, nor-ephedrine or P2NP. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that makes up 99% of European amph precursors according to Europol(?). From there you could indeed figure out all involved substances and intermediaries and figure out what it is, assuming it's leftover from manufacture. As for the freebase, shouldn't adding H2SO4 neutralize the waxy part then? I am out of high% H2SO4 and of waxy amph so I can't try unfortunately. I also don't really care that much and I'm tired. -_-
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No, it's not speculation. It's not one substance among an infinite set of substances. My point was it's actually a small set of substances, which can be narrowed down even further by excluding everything it is not. I am only pretty sure because I don't have anything no more.
That's the basics of qualitative analysis my friend. It's how people found out before high-tech chromatographs were used.
Did you dry the washed out substance? Why didn't I think of that :(
@mseller: statistically it's made from either: BMK, nor-ephedrine or P2NP. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that makes up 99% of European amph precursors according to Europol(?). From there you could indeed figure out all involved substances and intermediaries and figure out what it is, assuming it's leftover from manufacture. As for the freebase, shouldn't adding H2SO4 neutralize the waxy part then? I am out of high% H2SO4 and of waxy amph so I can't try unfortunately. I also don't really care that much and I'm tired. -_-
I agree with you Muslix. I can assume and think what that is according to the known facts, but I can not assume that I know all the facts and be absolutely sure.For example it coule be brown sugar,lol. It would be totaly another matter if chemist who synthetise speed in question would wonder wth that is, because he and nobody else know all chemicals and process used in manufacture.
I can exclude some substances what does not match crieteria, but that wont get me closer of knowing what waxy substance is. That is what I wanted to say, nothing more.
I am also not get involved into dissusion of is this waxy indeed freebase lefovers. Somebody with chemistry knowldege and amphetamine freebase and h2so4 salt properties can detirmine it very easily.
There is good and slappy lab practise. Synthesis afterwork e.g. washing and freebase isolation and then conversion to sulfate with excess of h2so4 (lab grade acid) for complete reaction is crutial. Then filtering amphetamine salt and wash it again while sill sitting in filter paper is not so hard or time consuming thing. Finaly, cleaning it again after drying will ensure quality and sutisfaction.
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Are there already real-life experiences with Evilutions speed? I ask this because I am unsure about the effect it has on me. I am a first timer so my tolerance is quite low. 60mg one week ago did not do anything. Today I tried 120mg which didn't have any effect also except for cold fingertips and a small dick. I have acetone washed the speed before usage. Labtests for Evilutions speed will return this week.
This is in NO way a review. I rather expect the effects on my body to be odd, than the quality of Evilutions speed. Thanks! :)
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Yes. Long time amphetamine user here, both pharma and illicit varieties. I was planning on getting lab tests done on this gear as well but unfortunately my contact seems to have disappeared.
Acetone wash removed approx 30% of product by weight. Interestingly when the acetone was dried out, there was some slight crystalization.
Subjectively, 100mg feels roughly the same as 30mg dexamphetamine after the acetone wash. I'd guess the purity to be roughly 30-35% pre acetone wash.
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I tried Evilution's gear today. I took significantly more than I would BM or CC. The feeling is on par with CC, so I rate it very good (aside from the strength).
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jagfug, with respect, i don't believe you can get around the fact that the listing said "pure 96.7% amp sulphate" and that it was not. If you're going to sell something as pure , it had better be pure.
additionally i think that whatever is in there doesn't agree with me as I feel panicky, uncomfortable and dizzy from 10--45 minutes after ingesting the waxy stuff orally (an extremely minute amount too), almost where i'll briefly get flashes of feeling like I might pass out. After that, it feels good and fine, so I am not comfortable with consuming it until I get around to buying some acetone and epsom salts to wash it. As I said, it's just disappointing that it wasn't as advertised (and seeing the big price cut now is a bit aggravating . I released escrow, but now can't add feedback as it doesn't appear in the feedback list (I presume because I didn't leave any at all -- I closed the page after releasing escrow because I had received it, but I did not know yet if I was satisfied; and, I needed feedback from others and BM (who still hasn't even read my pm's), as the 17th day was approaching quickly). I hope you're right that they will be reasonable and offer some kind of compromise -- one that does not involve me necessarily purchasing more -- perhaps I do not want to..? Nothing changes the fact that I'll lose 25%+ and will have to spend another $15 or so and time in order to get it to a consumable state. Sorry but I do not like to take chances necessarily. I have never had this kind of reaction from Ruth's d-amp, Adderall, or Desoxyn.. this was my 5th sr order btw, and so far, the worst for both communication and fulfillment ..
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and thanks a lot for my first 2 negative-karmas,
won´t inform about actual tested gears and delivered products no more,
as I only wanted to add my opinion.
Really very fair, but I don´t start wining nor stop consuming my high-graded-stuff now.
No more reviews from me in this thread.
Don't worry about that karma bullshit, because it is just that. Hero Status, Jr member. It's all base on how many times you post. You could post "Blah, Blah, Blah!" (literally), 100 times, and move up the so-called "status" ladder. I've been enjoying this thread, and it has helped me immensely in my quest for good speed. Your tests, and/or experiences, are what I need to see, and I believe others seek as well.
I only recently achieved "Jr Member" because during the outtage we were all huddled in here, in the "stuck elevator" (my analogy) of SR, and went back and forth quite a bit. I usually only add something, when I think it's relative, being brought up with the old saying, "if you haven't got something good to say, don't say anything". A month ago I still showed up as "newbie" even though I've been a buyer with excellent stats since April.
Then again, there are those times I'm speeding away, and get on here to give a review that reads more like a term paper! "*)
So keep up those reviews and screw that rating system to your left. It's more of a guide. This forum format is about as old as the internet itself. I treat it like real life. Worrying about +/- karma, is like worrying what people think about you. While we all do to some extent, the more we do, the less we think of ourselves. If it's all positive, then we tend to think too highly of ourselves. So just try and keep everything in perspective.
As I read this back, I just got to the point of thinking, "WTF am I talking about?" -
Anyway here's a quick recent rundown of my expereince as it relates to this thread.
PE = awesome above average speed, A+ shipping, communication, and stealth.
BM = had 2 gs last 2 mos he was on here - superior to anything I've had in recent memory (50 yrs old here)
DB = tried his coke-was always very speedy, ordered his speed a week before outtage-never marked "in transit" even 4 days after SR was up. Cancelled and went w/PE
prior to that I was a simple adderall head, and loved DB4DH's amph caps, they too seemed to have trouble coming back after the outtage, though I think they were close to the storm damage in US without trying to give anything away.
I do believe the storm damage contributed greatly to the outtage situation. Just my opinion, based on previous work experience installing servers in NY.
Let the karma fly.
Thanks to those, who dare to compare! - We need more like you!
As for me, just went through a 3 day withdraw, sleeping 12 hours at a time, trying to binge on food, but stomach is so shrunken! - Hoping my next PE del comes tomorrow!!
Checked the mail this morning, - Nothing !!!-- went back to sleep -- lol. What a way to start my week off.
Totally unrelated to current posts, I was just reminded of this post by someone in a PM, thought I'd share my self deprecation with y'all.
That being said. I'm glad my 3 pending speed orders are not with BM. (no offense, I'm just allergic to that "wax" or whatever it is) I guess "the public" shouldn't need to know what it is according to jackass.
Well it's all a crap shoot. - No compromises, no regrets!
I have a few pending speed orders. Will update when received! CC EV and MH. Guess the last two!
To BM, you've been great, but yours is the only one that my nose finds offensive. I just tested the latest batch received by a friend yesterday, and while not as waxy, (still had a unique scent), sent me sneezing like last time. Whatever it is, my body rejects it. Maybe I'm one in million. The body/mind effect is great. My nose just doesn't like it.
Just a physical test and opinion. I'm not a chemist, nor do I play one on TV.
::)
Peace
jagfug
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jagfug, with respect, i don't believe you can get around the fact that the listing said "pure 96.7% amp sulphate" and that it was not. If you're going to sell something as pure , it had better be pure.
additionally i think that whatever is in there doesn't agree with me as I feel panicky, uncomfortable and dizzy from 10--45 minutes after ingesting the waxy stuff orally (an extremely minute amount too), almost where i'll briefly get flashes of feeling like I might pass out. After that, it feels good and fine, so I am not comfortable with consuming it until I get around to buying some acetone and epsom salts to wash it. As I said, it's just disappointing that it wasn't as advertised (and seeing the big price cut now is a bit aggravating . I released escrow, but now can't add feedback as it doesn't appear in the feedback list (I presume because I didn't leave any at all -- I closed the page after releasing escrow because I had received it, but I did not know yet if I was satisfied; and, I needed feedback from others and BM (who still hasn't even read my pm's), as the 17th day was approaching quickly). I hope you're right that they will be reasonable and offer some kind of compromise -- one that does not involve me necessarily purchasing more -- perhaps I do not want to..? Nothing changes the fact that I'll lose 25%+ and will have to spend another $15 or so and time in order to get it to a consumable state. Sorry but I do not like to take chances necessarily. I have never had this kind of reaction from Ruth's d-amp, Adderall, or Desoxyn.. this was my 5th sr order btw, and so far, the worst for both communication and fulfillment ..
I didn't mean to imply you were not withing your rights to say what you felt. I was being more of an "elder statesman" in dishing out what I thought was wisdom. Half the time I don't believe my own bullshit, so don't get a rash about it all.
For the record. I placed three orders for speed two days ago. Evilution marked in transit within minutes, with a nice acknowledgement PM to me. That's the way it's done. IMHO.
As far as quality goes. I was the 1st to mention Evilution on here. (check) I was whining about the smell and pink champagne hue to it after drying.
I learned the pink is normal, (has nothing to do with red phosphorus, that;'s used for meth not amph)
I have no "testing" results, I can only tell you what it does to me negative or positive. My friend is all into that testing shit. I just say "Give me a line".
My results are purely metaphysical.
PS Are we talking about a specific vendor? In reading this back, I just realized you didn't mention one. I put in this edit to ask you. Who is it you're talking about??
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Got 6g from BM. Seems to be that waxy stuff, but looks like it has been dried.
Just by plain eyesight i can tell that this is not 96% purity by weight, but impossible to tell how far off it is (after testing propably not far).
There was some issues with the shipment also, i ordered on 3:th of january and first "shipment" was not even sent so BM sent this later.:)
Im just about to test it with 100mg iv... will update.
EDIT: IV dose of 80mg, mild vasoconstriction at first (i have that with potent stuff), then it started kicking in.. feels very nice, some body load and not so clean on mind as often from speed, but for less "i feel speeded and horny as hell" feeling dosage should be less.
I quess from first minutes (experienced) that with very high tolerance 0.5g within 24 hours is plenty for iv use and 0.2-3g is more than enough for non hardcore users, but those doses are not for studying. ;)
ps. Unexperienced users need some experienced to guide them.
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Hello speed comrades,
i did not make it this weekend. (Test CC's and wash BM's)
It would be great if those, who have the samples tested in the laboratory, would upload the scans of the results!
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Im just about to test it with 100mg iv... will update.
Don't die... You probably know what you're doing, but still, it's scary to read.
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Ordered some of the last CC right before it got sold out it seems.
Also some Evilution and with the leftover coins a bit of Schizofreen, never heard of him but seems to have good ratings (not that it matters) plus I like his vendor name :D.
The schizofreen stuff is marked "processing" for 2-3 days already so I dunno.... . It's not FE so no problem, might cancel in 2 days.
Been speedfree since Thursday so I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of my orders. In the meantime I did some 2CB I had still laying around last night, which is alright but nothing great. Kinda felt like mdma with mild visuals. (no snorting it this time, fuck that)
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Are there already real-life experiences with Evilutions speed? I ask this because I am unsure about the effect it has on me. I am a first timer so my tolerance is quite low. 60mg one week ago did not do anything. Today I tried 120mg which didn't have any effect also except for cold fingertips and a small dick. I have acetone washed the speed before usage. Labtests for Evilutions speed will return this week.
This is in NO way a review. I rather expect the effects on my body to be odd, than the quality of Evilutions speed. Thanks! :)
What effects are you expecting? Apart from getting awake? Small dick is a good indicator that you already took more then needed. Amph effects can be very subtly, it can affect people quite differently and there are cross tolerances to various other substances (MDMA, etc.).
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Hopefully I will get CC's amf for this weekend. Is 25mg a good dose to start with if no prev exp? Also snorting it or bombing it? Either way do I have to do anything with it before intake like convert to freebase, clean it or something like that?
Usally I use Erowid for a source of a new drug I haven't taken before but not much info there about amf.
First you should ask yourself if you want to do a drug you don't know nothing about.
Second, you should not come here and complain if you get insomnia.
25mg should be ok to start with, snort it I'd suggest. Equals roughly one tab of 20mg Adderall. Wait 1hr for full effects, either snort more or take some xanax if too much. Repeat until high enough or in a warm and cosy hospital bed.
I do know what effects of the drug and I do know mostly how it works in my body. only thing is how to take it and if I need to wash it before and stuff like that.
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Yes. Long time amphetamine user here, both pharma and illicit varieties. I was planning on getting lab tests done on this gear as well but unfortunately my contact seems to have disappeared.
Acetone wash removed approx 30% of product by weight. Interestingly when the acetone was dried out, there was some slight crystalization.
Subjectively, 100mg feels roughly the same as 30mg dexamphetamine after the acetone wash. I'd guess the purity to be roughly 30-35% pre acetone wash.
I tried Evilution's gear today. I took significantly more than I would BM or CC. The feeling is on par with CC, so I rate it very good (aside from the strength).
Thanks for your replies mates. This information is most valuable to me. I concur on the fact that the acetone residu evaporated to white crystallisations including some yellowish earwax waxy like substance. I lost 26% in the process with a single rinse.
What effects are you expecting? Apart from getting awake? Small dick is a good indicator that you already took more then needed. Amph effects can be very subtly, it can affect people quite differently and there are cross tolerances to various other substances (MDMA, etc.).
I expected at least something significant. Like light euphoria, more wired, increased focus, light-legged, more energy, increased activity, not able to sit still, reduced fatigue. I haven't felt one of them, at least not significantly. Instead I got a smaller dick, cold fingertips, tired eyes (bloodshot), eventually yawning and an urge to go to bed. No altered physical or mental behavior. I only have taken alcohol, ephedrinehcl, weed and nicotine in my lifetime. :D
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I expected at least something significant. Like light euphoria, more wired, increased focus, light-legged, more energy, increased activity, not able to sit still, reduced fatigue. I haven't felt one of them, at least not significantly. Instead I got a smaller dick, cold fingertips, tired eyes (bloodshot), eventually yawning and an urge to go to bed. No altered physical or mental behavior. I only have taken alcohol, ephedrinehcl, weed and nicotine in my lifetime. :D
I would have say the same.. i have no (or less) tolerance (took mdma the same week). Friday night, i took mephedrone (200mg + 50mg) and at 7am (long after meph), i offered some BM's speed to a friend and my girlfriend. We took 0,5g, my GF went to work and felt asleep at 22pm. My friend felt asleep at 11am. I traveled by train at 12am, was not able to sleep but was really tired (finally go to bed at 6am.. with no more lines)
I was expecting, like you, all these effects - it only maintained me awake but still tired. That's maybe totally normal...
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Update on Boymasters product:
5g bag has very badly made vacuum, there is small amounts of amph outside vacuum and in melted seams of vacuum.
Even if the product is smelly it still passed dogs in customs.. amazing..
iv:ed within 5 hours (about) 0.28g:s = 280 milligrams and im stuck to this moment, im going shopping but it takes forever to leave from my home.. it seems i dont need a 'refill' on this day, maybe after 8 hours or so..
But effects dont seem to last very long, but that is up for debate..
Overall this is potent amphetamine but not 96 purity awesomeness, this feels more like 96% pure cut with 40% making it contain 50-60%..
But some labresults gave 80% purity results and that ofcourse must be true, but my feelings of 50% purity is that the potency of the product comes from many factors, best potency products are cleaned with chemicals after manufacturing and the recrystallisation is made with know how and passion.
Amph can be in my experience be twice as potent (or even more) than BM:s gear and more clearer high can be achieved.
7/10 points. :)
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Well, i can't find out what speed should be ?
Amphetamine, Dexamphetamine, Methamphetamine ?
What is usually SR's speed ?
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Update on Boymasters product:
5g bag has very badly made vacuum, there is small amounts of amph outside vacuum and in melted seams of vacuum.
Even if the product is smelly it still passed dogs in customs.. amazing..
iv:ed within 5 hours (about) 0.28g:s = 280 milligrams and im stuck to this moment, im going shopping but it takes forever to leave from my home.. it seems i dont need a 'refill' on this day, maybe after 8 hours or so..
But effects dont seem to last very long, but that is up for debate..
Overall this is potent amphetamine but not 96 purity awesomeness, this feels more like 96% pure cut with 40% making it contain 50-60%..
But some labresults gave 80% purity results and that ofcourse must be true, but my feelings of 50% purity is that the potency of the product comes from many factors, best potency products are cleaned with chemicals after manufacturing and the recrystallisation is made with know how and passion.
Amph can be in my experience be twice as potent (or even more) than BM:s gear and more clearer high can be achieved.
7/10 points. :)
What would possibly possess you to do almost 300mg of 'pure' amphetamine?
I mean, given that its advertised 96% pure, you really had no evidence to doubt that before ingestion.
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Fractal Global
300mg of amphetamine for heavy experienced users is not that much.
Some people wanna get sky high
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300mg of amphetamine for heavy experienced users is not that much.
Some people wanna get sky high
Without β-blockers?
Sounds weary of life...
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Fractal Global
300mg of amphetamine for heavy experienced users is not that much.
Some people wanna get sky high
No, 280mg IV is really a lot and from my understanding on how the drug works, its pretty stupid as well. That amount probably used up all the dopamine reserves in the first 30 minutes, so he is just awake for the rest of the day with high bodyload, if not worse..
@italosvevo & 6DEE3CADA idk what to tell you, but for the rest of us it works.. maybe give it a break and try again on a techno party or something. I often party only on amphetamines 12+ hours.
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I have a gram of CapeCrusader's speed. What is a good first dose for someone who hasn't done speed before? I'll be taking it orally.
Would 20mg be enough to notice something? I imagine it is certainly not too much for a first try. I would rather start low and work my way up, but I'd rather not waste any by taking doses that are too small.
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Well, i can't find out what speed should be ?
Amphetamine, Dexamphetamine, Methamphetamine ?
What is usually SR's speed ?
I think speed usually means racemic amphetamine sulphate. The meth crowd have fancier slang names for their drug of choice than the retro sounding "speed", and dextroamphetamine is so uncommon it's usually called by it's real name.
I have a gram of CapeCrusader's speed. What is a good first dose for someone who hasn't done speed before? I'll be taking it orally.
Would 20mg be enough to notice something? I imagine it is certainly not too much for a first try. I would rather start low and work my way up, but I'd rather not waste any by taking doses that are too small.
You will most certainly notice something from 20mg, it's probably a good first dose, have fun. :)
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Well, i can't find out what speed should be ?
Amphetamine, Dexamphetamine, Methamphetamine ?
What is usually SR's speed ?
My answer is amphetamine. At least that's what this thread is concerned with. Mostly amphetamine purists here. (a little unintentional pun there)
I was never into speed. My whole life, I always sought to be "calmed down". Having only done "black beauties" and "yellowjackets" in High School, I always steered clear of stimulants.
It wasn't until I had to get off of long term prescribed morphine for a back problem. Somewhere I found a forum that suggested Ritalin to help with the horrible days that follow an even worse 72 hour withdrawal.
I had some on the shelf from an Rx a Dr gave me, for SSRI-resistant depression. So I gave it a shot. It worked. So I got more, and did that for a year. Of course after 12 months it stopped working.
Enter Adderall!~ :D - at the ripe old age of late 40 something, it was like falling in love for the first time!
Fastest tolerance buildup I've ever experienced!!! Soon I was "running out early" - At the Maximum dose which is 60mg per day (two 30 mg 2X daily). Then I found SR. Then I found ridiculously high prices for adderall, when you know it's some kid (HS or college) selling his Rx for beer/pot money. :-\
Then I see 1 gram amphetamine selling for the price of 1 or 2 adderall 30mg IR's ! I've never looked back.
Interestingly enough, I will sometimes buy one or two adderall with leftover btcs. To go back to Adderall after a healthy tolerance for EURO-speed, I was amazed how strong the Adderall hit me!
A whole different tolerance, and there's no question of purity. WYSIWYG ! ;)
So for me, the best speed is amphetamine. (I've tried dexedrine, and was disappointed), and Meth, from what I've heard, causes more damage to your dopamine receptors. There's a term for the damage, but I forgot (lol). Someone help me out here.,
Anyway, that's my two cents.
I hope it helps answer your question.
Peace
jagfug
EDIT
PS. It was neurotoxicity I was thinking of. Not sure of the facts, though a quick google search yields some surprising studies on the whole issue.
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Fractal Global
300mg of amphetamine for heavy experienced users is not that much.
Some people wanna get sky high
You mean, some people are complete fucking morons
..yeah...that makes much more sense.
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Fractal Global
300mg of amphetamine for heavy experienced users is not that much.
Some people wanna get sky high
You mean, some people are complete fucking morons
..yeah...that makes much more sense.
I agree with Banko -- I take 300mg (oral) doses daily, and don't even consider it that much. With CC's stuff or adderall, I mean, not some rubbish. I have many years worth of tolerance to get past. But yes, I also agree with Stick that I'm a fucking moron, so there's that too...
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Don't forget that the IV ROA is very different than eating or snorting. You can shoot a considerable amount more and be at a good level, whereas eating that same amount would make me stay up for two days. Damnit. I haven't shot anything in several weeks, but all this IV speed talk is making me want to try CC's stuff IV (which I have not gotten around to). Looks like tomorrow morning will be fun!
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man, all that speculations on what the waxy paste in bm´s speed could be, but not writing what you think sucks......
i thought it is just amphetamine-base, like i think bm even wrote himself. the description of some left base also fits to waxy, yellow, not drying at room temperature, smell, not working good nasal. i wanted to order some more, but now with all that speculations and him not writing in this topic anymore i wont do/will wait. if its 20% more potent or less etc is really no point for me, but i dont want to take sth that might be very harmful/toxic for the body. (i understand that for ppl who order large amounts and resell every % matters, but i think for the normal user its not that important if you have to take e.g. 100 or 120mg. of course washing yourself could be an option, but i really dont like to have all that stuff at home as a occasional user...)
my experience was:
i ordered some at the beginning of the year and even with the - at that time - quite high price i was pleased with what i got even compared on the price/power level (maybe he did send more, i have no scale). i took it only oral (big thx to jagfug for trying nasal and giving review on that!) and i did not get any bad bodyload or other negative aspects, but i also did dose slowly (always waiting at least 1h till i bombed the next) because i even managed to overdose on powerade´s stuff after bombing too much at the end of a 24h binge session and got carefully after that. (off-topic: oral you can really get a overdose quite easy, so take care if you are new. i really lost respect because nasal i never had od-trouble and than i was lying on the bed with the highest/fastest blood-pressure/heartbeat/breathing i can remember in my life trying to move as less as possible with the phone in my hand. it really sucked and was a horrible hour. always consider there is no real antidote. of course i took benzos + vitamin c)
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how come I sent out an ebay-ish sale to someone in Spain, the day after my order from Spain was marked in transit. Was bulky-ish, so no way it's machine readable. That shit arrived yesterday. While I am still waiting on a letter from Spain. This sucks. And I'll keep complaining until it's fixed. 10€ for shipping a 1.50€ envelope. At least do it on time. That shipping boy needs some serious kick in the ass. From the replacement boy. Just saying... Annoys the shit out of me.
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Ahh so I couldnt wait and slammed some of CCs (I love fresh veins!!). I put in I would guess 30-60mg (due to his purity being slightly less than BM.) I got no rush, and I almost thought I wasn't going to feel anything off that. Well as time went on, I could sense the mild concentration increase and mild euphoria. I definitely could IV much much more of this!! (but then it gets used too fast!).
On another note, a couple days ago after trying orally BMs waxy post-acetone-wash, the feeling, although strong, is IMO a less desirable state of being. The intensity of certain effects it produces is too much even at lower amounts. I ended up with a sharp headache and a stomachache to match after a few hours from dosing. I hope BM can figure out the chemistry behind the "volatility" of his product because he is so damn close to producing the best speed I'll ever get to try..
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man, all that speculations on what the waxy paste in bm´s speed could be, but not writing what you think sucks......
i thought it is just amphetamine-base, like i think bm even wrote himself. the description of some left base also fits to waxy, yellow, not drying at room temperature, smell, not working good nasal. i wanted to order some more, but now with all that speculations and him not writing in this topic anymore i wont do/will wait. if its 20% more potent or less etc is really no point for me, but i dont want to take sth that might be very harmful/toxic for the body. (i understand that for ppl who order large amounts and resell every % matters, but i think for the normal user its not that important if you have to take e.g. 100 or 120mg. of course washing yourself could be an option, but i really dont like to have all that stuff at home as a occasional user...)
I order what most people consider "large amounts" but I don't resell. I dunno who said what about the waxy substance, but I don't think it's freebase. Would have put the % above 73 in the lab-result. Why wash out freebase anyway? It should still be active. so it's something in between the precursor and freebase. You think any chemist would just wash away (and down the drain) pure Amphetamine? nope. The lab test showed nothing but the 75% per weight, which means it is NOT considered DANGEROUS by the guys running the tests. They know better than you, me and the rest of the people on here combined. Including the manufacturers. What are you guys thinking the labtests are for? Comparing dick-size? No. Safety.
now please put this discussion to rest. It's almost as annoying as my letter not arriving.
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The lab test showed nothing but the 75% per weight, which means it is NOT considered DANGEROUS by the guys running the tests. They know better than you, me and the rest of the people on here combined. Including the manufacturers. What are you guys thinking the labtests are for? Comparing dick-size? No. Safety.
now please put this discussion to rest. It's almost as annoying as my letter not arriving.
thx and sorry, i have not much experience.
i think i got it in the wrong mind because all that new specualtion started after the lab test and bm did not answer to it/yet (and many people in this thread did go through the hassle to wash it).
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The lab test showed nothing but the 75% per weight, which means it is NOT considered DANGEROUS by the guys running the tests. They know better than you, me and the rest of the people on here combined. Including the manufacturers. What are you guys thinking the labtests are for? Comparing dick-size? No. Safety.
now please put this discussion to rest. It's almost as annoying as my letter not arriving.
Some of us are still waiting for scans of the lab results.
I think it's good to remain critical and rather wash your stuff, if you are worried.
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Fractal Global
300mg of amphetamine for heavy experienced users is not that much.
Some people wanna get sky high
No, 280mg IV is really a lot and from my understanding on how the drug works, its pretty stupid as well. That amount probably used up all the dopamine reserves in the first 30 minutes, so he is just awake for the rest of the day with high bodyload, if not worse..
@italosvevo & 6DEE3CADA idk what to tell you, but for the rest of us it works.. maybe give it a break and try again on a techno party or something. I often party only on amphetamines 12+ hours.
Didn't realize my two lines worth would cause such a stir
NorthState IV'd point three in five hours so that's telling me he was being cautious. It's not like he whacked the whole thing in one go!
Stoney let's say your brain dopamine does peak within half an hour of dosing... the mental high should last many many hours . Sorry not sure what exactly you were alluding to?
Probably for the best I don't state the dosages I have done. I will state I'm in the minority with SS
Impulsively speaking I am a "complete fucking moron"
Sobriety Lacks Substance
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Some of us are still waiting for scans of the lab results.
I think it's good to remain critical and rather wash your stuff, if you are worried.
I'm not sure who mentioned scans of lab results but dutch labs don't hand out prints for results. You can either call for the results or visit again and they will look it up for you in the computer.
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Some of us are still waiting for scans of the lab results.
I think it's good to remain critical and rather wash your stuff, if you are worried.
I'm not sure who mentioned scans of lab results but dutch labs don't hand out prints for results. You can either call for the results or visit again and they will look it up for you in the computer.
Did you get the lab results for HollandOnline's batch back yet?
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Some of us are still waiting for scans of the lab results.
I think it's good to remain critical and rather wash your stuff, if you are worried.
There won't be any scans of lab results. ever. You can open your favorite text editor, paste vxn's or speedie's results, print them and scan afterwards if that convinces you more.
Again: it's in the nature of the tests and their target audience that they will never give out full chromatograms of their results. They exist to keep users safe, not to give out free lab analysis to chemists. And crying for BM or CC won't help either, as they also don't know. Knowing would mean they do this on purpose. We're not in school, they are not your all knowing teachers.
So in other words: you can wait as long as I'm waiting for people to smarten up. Not gonna happen.
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@bankofgt I didn't read the 5 hours part ::), just wanted to make sure, that the rookies don't take NorthState as an example on how to start^^
What I meant was, that at a certain amount taking more amph won't result in a greater high, because the dopamine reserves are kinda depleted. I doubt the difference between 200 and 300 mg is worth it, which doesn't mean I could keep myself from redosing more than needed. I think my record is ~400mg of BM's last batch nasally in like 8 hours, which was way too much for me..
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Did you get the lab results for HollandOnline's batch back yet?
Nope, this thursday I hope.
I must admit that I tried some of his product last weekend though (despite having CC and BM stuff laying around, but the smell of HO was pretty much identical to that of my very first amphetamine and totally lured me in :) ). I'd say it's probably better than other low price alternatives like powerade but not as potent as CC/BM of course. It did however give both myself and my man a very nice euphoric buzz so I'm curious about the test results.
I wonder what happened to iisthisisi by the way. At some point he said that he would come up with a new batch next week but that is quite a few weeks ago now I think.
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Just got CC's stuff--luckily it was only 10 days to the US, very pleased and weighed up on point. Also got HollandOnline's stuff, it's probably 30% or so. About the same as Mercury31's quality, same smell, texture and sent from same region so could even be the same batch. Not bad for the price, I orally dose 100mg of it and keeps me going for 8 hours while 40mg of CC and BM's does about the same for me.
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I agree that amphetamine is at it's best when dosage is moderate and redosing is not done too often.
But sometimes it's fun to be "drunken" from amphetamine, so why not do it occasionally...
For the prize of BM:s gear i wanted it to have better texture and clear when mixed in water, now it's burning veins with ugly yellow color with it..
ps. im not going to tell you how much i have used after i started with this bag, but i say it is too much, it's more fun to be focused and stimulated for 24 hours than just being drunk and feeling funny. :D
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I just posted a review in the review thread of Powerade and here is a copy for you guys:
Hi guys,
I just wanted to give you a small review on my first speed order from Powerade.
Unfortunatly I've got my BTC to Silkroad just a few hours before he went on
vacation for a week, so i had to wait a little before i could submit my order.
Meanwhile I've had a look at his reviews in this thread and on his vendor page,
I figured out, he was worth the waiting and since I had some speed left I weren't in a hurry.
To be sure to order right, when he's back i wrote him a message, so he could contact
me as soon as he was on the road again :) This plan worked out so I could order without losing any time.
He shipped my stuff just a few hours after i ordered and I recieved everything just a labor day later.
The order was a little overweight, packaged stealthy and vacuumsealed. His speed is high quality
and a little wet but doesn't lose much weight when drying. I dry it just before I'm going to snort it
with a lighter under my mirror, !!! be careful to not burn your fingers !!! :)
We started at 7:00pm, without a tolerance, with 40mg for me and 50mg nasal for my boyfriend,
it burned a little bit in the nose but thats normal with good stuff..
Nice buzz after only 4-5minutes, really clear high! At 0:00am we took a 2nd line and didn't need
to take another line until we went to work in the morning.
Pretty impressing effect for this cheap price.
Overall a really professional vendor and I'll continue to order from him in future.
Greetings
MissKotape
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Yay, Spain to US is now faster than to EU.
I am so happy. >:(
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chicks on speed review are always nice to read xD
Thanks for sharing. I can confirm I'm always happy doing business with Powerade. He's a very professional seller with honest prices and top with stealth and fast shipping.
For top quality we have CC (sadly out of stock till end of februar) and BM, for fair quality/price Powerade and Evilution.
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@bankofgt I didn't read the 5 hours part ::), just wanted to make sure, that the rookies don't take NorthState as an example on how to start^^
What I meant was, that at a certain amount taking more amph won't result in a greater high, because the dopamine reserves are kinda depleted. I doubt the difference between 200 and 300 mg is worth it, which doesn't mean I could keep myself from redosing more than needed. I think my record is ~400mg of BM's last batch nasally in like 8 hours, which was way too much for me..
Cheers for the reply Stoney
Got it.. True at some point you will reach a point of diminishing returns. Similar to drinking beer.. A warm buzz after half a dozen ...why the need to neck another twelve and complicate a simple life!
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Yay, Spain to US is now faster than to EU.
I am so happy. >:(
Sounds like you are suffering from unexpected speed depletion syndrome ;D
But I agree with you mate, the "pure vendors" all have downsides I don't want to deal with when buying that kind of premium product. Out of my last five "pure" orders I had to wash three of them anyway. One I have not yet looked at, that's CapeCrusader's current batch and only one I did not have to wash that was from isthisisi. The others were either waxy or "sour" so if I have to wash it anyway, why bother...
Personally I have now stocked up on acetone, ethanol, chloroform and I will be ordering my speed from the Dutch. They currently have great (unfortunately adulterated) product. I expect 50% loss of mass but its probably still cheaper and quicker. As silly as this will sound: ordering cut Dutch speed will safe you time and money.
The elite pure vendors should start to get their shit together and deliver what they charge for.
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hi mates :)
sorry im to stoned to read the whole thread ;D
im looking for clean high grade speed. which vendor can offer me this quality atm ?
EDIT: Location Central Europe
tia
br
sweet
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Boymaster from EU or CapeCrusader from South Africa. I trust muslix, he is one of the 2-3 guys who speak up when a vendor fucks up no matter who the vendor is. Shipping time is roughly the same from BM or CC if I interpret him correctly. There is no real review of BMs newly washed batch yet, so I recommend to wait for some veteran user to give an opinion on it or go with CC.
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thanks a lot matefor ur answer :-*
wondering cause there are no BM listings atm.
im patient :)
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CC and powerade came in today =)
Just started with powerades gear, nice euphoria so far ( did two tiny lines ) CC looks and smells promising as well, both were a heavier then ordered, thx !
will update later on.
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CC and powerade came in today =)
Just started with powerades gear, nice euphoria so far ( did two tiny lines ) CC looks and smells promising as well, both were a heavier then ordered, thx !
will update later on.
ordered some speed from powerade ... will give a small review after testing :)
br
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okay after some more lines of powerade i gotta say, once dried its really dry xD i mean, i always have to cough after i rail, which means gear is pretty dusty :) All in all i railed 0,1 so far doing pretty good, cleaned my kitchen and did some coding. In my opinion one has to rail a bit more to achieve the effects BM gear provides (body high) , but on the other hand BM gear was lacking a bit euphoria which powerades gear does not ( for me ).
CC's gear is scheduled to be tested this weekend.
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okay after some more lines of powerade i gotta say, once dried its really dry xD i mean, i always have to cough after i rail, which means gear is pretty dusty :) All in all i railed 0,1 so far doing pretty good, cleaned my kitchen and did some coding. In my opinion one has to rail a bit more to achieve the effects BM gear provides (body high) , but on the other hand BM gear was lacking a bit euphoria which powerades gear does not ( for me ).
CC's gear is scheduled to be tested this weekend.
sounds interessting :)
ccs gear is one of the finest for sure, but im a litlle angry to order from his origin to central europe.
br
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Boymaster from EU or CapeCrusader from South Africa. I trust muslix, he is one of the 2-3 guys who speak up when a vendor fucks up no matter who the vendor is. Shipping time is roughly the same from BM or CC if I interpret him correctly. There is no real review of BMs newly washed batch yet, so I recommend to wait for some veteran user to give an opinion on it or go with CC.
thanks a lot matefor ur answer :-*
wondering cause there are no BM listings atm. :o
im patient :)
No BM listings atm? I've seen them up every time I checked today! Sure you don't mean CC?
Anyway to Jackass - I'm not a "veteran" but I think I could be deemed "intermediate level". I had a bad reaction to BM's 1st batch. Felt like the lining in my upper nasal cavity had burned. Eyes tearing. etc.
That didn't happen all at once. My friend and I were doing lines, way over what we needed. We were way up in the zone, jamming on guitar and drums. (we swap back+forth). I rarely drum, but I felt like the soul of Keith Moon entered my body! :o
I mean I was jumping on that floor Tom-Tom with all my weight! (and I got pretty skinny in the past year) - But it wasn't till I got home after a long night, that the sneezing and watery eyes. Pouring water out of my nose and eyes!! - I finally took a Benadryl and slept, and the next day, only took oral doses. In a few days I tried a tiny bit up the "better" side of my nose, and it burned!!- Then I had two oral doses left, and did one each day.
I was about to get ready for amph withdrawal syndrome, when my friend calls me, to say he got BM's latest gear! - This past Saturday. - I was out the door like a flash!
I urged him and his younger brother to go easy, and they were being good. Small pinster lines. I guess 10mg . No measuring. It still had a yellow color, which disappeared when dumped out. Though when snorted it had that same BURN! Almost as bad as the 1st (for me anyway).
There's no doubt BM's speed is the strongest amphetamine I've tried in this past year of doing the drug. (Adderall flunkie here).
I just wish he could wash that scent out of there before it gets to us. It really is nasty. After a short time it feels like Vicks Vapo-Rub, or Halls Mentholyliptus going straight up into your optic nerve!
I haven't felt that before 2013, and I can assure you that, and I've snorted some nasty pills with all sorts of binders.
So I have 2gs of CC coming (got in just under the wire) then I ordered two others I've both had and liked, Evilution and Max Havalaar. - I can't wait for all, but I"m most excited about CC's. :D
I'm definitely still getting some more BM speed, I just have to visit "Home Depot" to get the wash chemicals. I really like BM's speeds effects. Just not the one it has on my nose!
So I'll use my next order from him to do my first wash ever. My friends grandfather was a chemist/pharmacist, and has a lot of cool testing kits in his back room, leftover after his pharmacy closed, and we all started to go to BIG BOX Pharma's!
Kind of a half assed review, but it is straight from the heart!
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sounds interesting :)
ccs gear is one of the finest for sure, but im a litlle angry to order from his origin to central europe.
br
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What does that last part mean? Angry because it's so far? Or something political? - Sorry, just a yank here.
Peace
jagfug
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Nope iam sure i meant BM , got his "waxy " stuff 2 weeks ago just, had not yet time to review it.
Anyway I also experienced tears in my eyes after a "bigger" then the usual tiny line which i do with BM's gear, but was gone after some min.
Iam currently railing just half lines, no coughing no more xD Cured myself !
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sounds interesting :)
ccs gear is one of the finest for sure, but im a litlle angry to order from his origin to central europe.
br
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What does that last part mean? Angry because it's so far? Or something political? - Sorry, just a yank here.
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please correct me if im wrong but cc send from south africa or ?? this is the issue i mentioned above.
im felling better to get stuff from Germany for example (customs) ;)
br
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please correct me if im wrong but cc send from south africa or ?? this is the issue i mentioned above.
im felling better to get stuff from Germany for example (customs) ;)
br
Yeah he does, but expect a longer waiting period you should not have trouble receiving ;)
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ok my friend, maybe i give a try :D
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This will be my first CC order, and from what I've read, it's worth the wait, the risk, everything!
You wrote BM's listings were down? I was on and off all day, and never saw them disappear, but they were doing some upgrades on the site.
CC is the one who's listings are gone. He ran out of stock, but promises to be back with a nice batch towards the end of February! ;D
They just announced on the radio (news) that the US Postal Service will stop Saturday mail delivery August 1st. - They WILL however still deliver packages (priority, express). So all those great business letters we look forward to over here in the states, will just have to wait till Monday! :'(
Thank the greedy unions, and the management too weak to stand up to them. They pacified them, and now look at the mess. Half of whats wrong with this country. BIG LABOR
But I digress. ;)
Well I'm going to buy some drugs.
See ya later!
jagfug
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Sorry, I don't cum here much
who is 'CC'?
thanx
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CC = CapeCrusader
BM=BoyMaster
PE=PowerAide
When you see "LE" they're referring to law enforcement.
Peace 8)
jagfug
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PE is PowerAide...? ... okay, sure. PE is PowerAide I guess 8)
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Sounds like you are suffering from unexpected speed depletion syndrome ;D
Not unexpected. I am more suffering from work-while-comedown-because-money combined with unexpected non-arrival-of-letter-from-spain syndrome.
Donations to aid the battle of conquering this mind-crushing disease can be sent here: 1BxwmQz3JdiCDDQWo2p1D58dZvkLT5a3Pc
Thank you everyone!
btw: it's PoweradE, or Powerade + Express (because the shipping is so fast)
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ccs gear is one of the finest for sure, but im a litlle angry to order from his origin to central europe.
why? shouldn't be a problem regarding customs as long as you are not Scandinavian (esp. Finland). Transit time is really not that much different to central EU. CC takes 2-4 days longer (if at all). Unless BM finally kicks shipping boy's butt. Then BM would be faster, but until then it doesn't really matter.
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Being a bit worried Evilution is on the decline (his FB score sure is).
Ordered last week and says in transit the 3rd. Actually got a message from him on the 3rd saying he would post it the very next day.
It's domestic and usually domestic mail here is 1-2 days. Longer is EXTREMELY rare.
Nothing else to do then wait and see I suppose.
EDIT: mssg him about it got an answer within minutes:
"Yes it's my fault, my computer crashed and I had to reinstall everything.
Luckily I regularly take backups so no addresses were lost.
However it did mean that all my orders were delayed, yours went out this morning."
Hmm, benefit of doubt will be given I guess, nothing but good experience doing business with Evilution in the past so keeping my fingers crossed.
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Got a letter from BM, took a week as always, but I thought he's not sending yellow waxy stuff anymore?
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Hello buddies,
As you know, we had to face some serious problems at the beginning of the new year so some users could have been disappointed by the mistakes we made. Now everything has been worked out so we can offer the best quality and service again.
/..../
My best regards
BM
Many people in product reviews still write about getting yellowish waxy stuff, although BM stated (as you can see above), that all the problems were resolved and he is again offering top quality.
Will update, when I get my package, ordered few days ago. :)
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I also thought so,, which was the reason why i was ordering a second time after i received 5 gram, of yellow waxy useless shit. As you can see from my earlier posts from the last months,
i have been always a great fan of BM, and ordered a lot of every batch he had. But this time, i´m feeling really fucked. Especially as the second order of the actual batch, which was promised,
to be dry and all good, and i received the same shit as before. I´m really sorry to say, but i´m out if it is about BM. Lost of money wasted. The exams at university got fucked up, which i can´t point only indirectly on him, of course ;) . The only effect besides pain in my belly and nausea, was that i got an totally dizzy head and not able to think straight anymore, and got very tired. I don´t know something went real wrong. I washed the rest out with acetone, it became nice white powder, haven´t tried it yet. But i hope this had transformed it into something useful. No hate at all, cause i had a lot of great weeks/months with his earlier stuff, just a little disappointed.
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Got a letter from BM, took a week as always, but I thought he's not sending yellow waxy stuff anymore?
I also received from BM today. I take back everything negative I said and claim the opposite. Besides the shipping part, that is still slow. BM ftw! and CC too! 8)
Mine is yellowish as well, looks like it's washed once quickly. But it's also overweight by a bit, dunno if mistake or done on purpose but it should make more than up for any loss once washed.
First I was like: ahh wtf, not again, once I put it on the scale I was like: YES!! yellow! :P
edit: my yellow waxy-ish speed I received today is def more potent than the last order.
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btw: it's PoweradE
this naming scheme also can be applied to HollandOnlinE, which is then HOE. lol ;D
Didn't vxn bring this to the test centre a week ago?
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The only effect besides pain in my belly and nausea, was that i got an totally dizzy head and not able to think straight anymore, and got very tired. I don´t know something went real wrong. I washed the rest out with acetone, it became nice white powder, haven´t tried it yet. But i hope this had transformed it into something useful. No hate at all, cause i had a lot of great weeks/months with his earlier stuff, just a little disappointed.
given 2 lab-results that only said amph, there shouldn't be anything psycho-active in there. doesn't mean you don't react to it somehow though. Best to wash it out as you did, check how much you lost and ask BM about it. I also noticed a slight difference once it was washed to powder. You never know what the combination of 2 substances will do once it's past the BBB and in your brain. The lab could have not shown it because it is related to the manufacturing process (it is ofc) and they don't give this data out (only if really dangerous).
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btw: it's PoweradE
Didn't vxn bring this to the test centre a week ago?
She said Thursday, so hopefully vxn will be online later.
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If waxy texture of BM's gear is caused by amphetamine freebase leftovers, you can also wash it with distilled water.
Amphetamine sulfate should dissolve in water, freebase shouldn't.
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given 2 lab-results that only said amph, there shouldn't be anything psycho-active in there. doesn't mean you don't react to it somehow though. Best to wash it out as you did, check how much you lost and ask BM about it. I also noticed a slight difference once it was washed to powder. You never know what the combination of 2 substances will do once it's past the BBB and in your brain. The lab could have not shown it because it is related to the manufacturing process (it is ofc) and they don't give this data out (only if really dangerous).
I don't know if cocaine and amphetamines are comparable, but for cocaine the lab will notify you if there are impurities leftover from the manufacturing process. As far as I know they are commonly found in cocaine and the tester should be notified. But I don't know if this also holds for amphetamines.
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I don't know shit either about coke, but I do know that there is a coke plant where coke comes from. And it used to be in Coca Cola. Amph on the other hand is purely synthetic. There's no Amphetamine-tree or plant that grows in Colombia. Hence I assume anything added is not natural, therefore mentioned.
A Coke "manufacturer" doesn't gain much by knowing it's full ingredients. An amph cook would save quite a bit of cash for a full lab analysis. That has abuse written all over it.
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Got HO's results today as promised: 42% amphetamine and 38% caffeine. Which translates to roughly 58% amphetamine per weight.
Meanwhile I took the gamble and placed a new order with BM. Delivery took only 4 days to Holland but the product still seems just as waxy as my first order and smells like chemical hell. Pretty far from what I expected after BM said that all new orders would be 'bone dry'. Bummer.
Last weekend I also washed my first BM order using the DIY anhydrous acetone method, which seemed to work good. Product loss was about 25% so comparable to the person who used 100% pure store bought acetone.
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Sorry for spamming but physicsdude asked me to post this because his post count is too low:
Recently I brought some speed from Mercury31 to the test-center. The results where quite disappointing: 17% of a max 73% purity. Rest of the product was caffeine, which is about 77% of the product! I consider this as a non-usable product, since the percentage of caffeine is way to much to have some fun from the amphetamines.
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I maybe an idiot but I knew I was right
CapeCrusader pwns Boywonder
I would even say iisthisis > Boywonder in terms of effects, nice clean high, maybe dosage is higher
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Sorry for this information but I can post my own results again because I'm no longer a newbie but a junior.
Muslix thanks for posting the results last week.
It's good to see that more people go to the lab for objective results so we can force the vendors to be a tiny little more honest in what they are selling to us.
Speedie
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Can't stand discrimination
Everybody gets a bit of earwax every now and again.
I thought of Coldplay and their titled song
YELLOW
Look at the stars,
Look how they shine for you,
And everything you do,
Yeah, they were all yellow.
I came along,
I wrote a song for you,
And all the things you do,
And it was called "Yellow".
So then I took my turn,
Oh what a thing to have done,
And it was all "Yellow."
Until CC restocks another viable option
Canadian Vendor Foxcave aka Panacea fresh out of the kitchen sixty percent WHITE amphetamine paste.
Would love to be that guinea pig maxing out on that ferris wheel..oh not again...yes again and again and again
History Repeats
BLACK is the absence of colour
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OK, 1st off, I called that song "Yellow" as being the next big hit, before anyone would listen to it! - That being said, their follow up sailed like a Lead Balloon.
I've been asked to MOD, but haven't decided. - If I did, posting your favorite song's lyrics, would get you suspended if not banned all together.
I love that song, and many others. You can see my avatar and quotes are all to do with RnR music. etc - I just know better not to "teach someone a lesson through the music I like"
It's like being stuck on an elevator with an annoying Phish fan, and the pathogens that dwell amongst them!
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OK now that that's out of the way.
In addition to my purchases this week (CC, Evilution, MaxHavelaar) I figured I'd get one last batch of BM's gear. - This is my 1st purchase from him since my well publicized (on here anyway) reaction to the "mystery wax".
I've pm'd him, and he's making changes daily. (which could account for him not being on forums lately).
I have a 5g order from BM on the way. - If it is as disappointing as the stuff my friend got last Saturday, (in composition not purity), - I will do my first "rinse". - I have all the solvents one could imagine.
All from a former "compounding pharmacists" closet. -
I will be "jagfug-Jr Chemist" soon! LoL! - ;D
No, but really, I just like you all on here, just want some good speed!
Is that too much to ask?
Peace
jagfug
PS. @müslix - Thank God you got your BM order! - I was afraid to even post last night! ;)
(I've been there, I know!)
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JagJug
Banned for commenting about one vendors mystery wax and naming two pep shop vendors ?
Facetious Dry
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JagJug
Banned for commenting about one vendors mystery wax and naming two pep shop vendors ?
Facetious Dry
I love this guy already!
Hey MAN. I was busting your onions for posting song lyrics in the most creative way I could. - It wasn't a direct slam! Geez! Touchy touchy! ::)
Though you might want to get a thicker skin if you want to survive in here.
Seriously, no offense was intended. I apologize if you were offended.
The Van Gogh self portrait makes you automatically acceptable for this forum member.
As far as naming pep vendors. - It's OK, That is what we're actually supposed to be talking about on here. - Lord knows I do my share of "going off the reservation", especially if I get some speed in me! ;D
We're all here for the same reason. At least that's the story I've been believing for the past 10 or so months. :-*
Peace 8)
jagfug
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btw: it's PoweradE, or Powerade + Express (because the shipping is so fast)
Ohhh he is fast alright ;)
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Got HO's results today as promised: 42% amphetamine and 38% caffeine. Which translates to roughly 58% amphetamine per weight.
Thanks for posting this, I've got quite a tolerance to caffeine so that probably explains why I enjoyed his batch so much!
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Got HO's results today as promised: 42% amphetamine and 38% caffeine. Which translates to roughly 58% amphetamine per weight.
Thanks for posting this, I've got quite a tolerance to caffeine so that probably explains why I enjoyed his batch so much!
mmmm... maybe......
sorry to intervene....
i have a tester in Groningen who tested in Test Center TC Groningen both my batches
the batch.... i Am selling now...is tested also TODAY by Dutch test center Groningen at 68 of 73 max is 93 PURITY !!!!...the rest is glucose .......STAGGERING..... IF ITS TRUE ???!!!
I do not understand at all !!..the occurring difference...i asked VXN and the guy in Groningen to call their test centers asap again....!..to make sure...for the right file...
I DO know that this taste tester in Groningen is ALLERGIC to caffeine........
SOOOO....IF any of you Dutch guys have some left...please bring it to your test center near you.....because......something must sure be clarified...here...it seems.....
i do hope.... maybe there is someone in this topic ALLERGIC to Caffeine too ??....and that some one sends some...
Of coarse no one should beleave a seller!!!.......so please bring what YOU have from me.... what YOU paid for at HO to a Dutch test center near you.. ....for gas and time and lost product.....i am willing to cover costs...and this is by no means a bride.....
I am totally confused now !!...THE MORE TC RESULTS THE BETTER !!..i guess.....!!
Sincerely Yours
HollandOnline
SR
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b27491ec56
SR Forum Topic Rumor mill
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95571.msg678344#msg678344
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95723.0
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btw: it's PoweradE, or Powerade + Express (because the shipping is so fast)
Ohhh he is fast alright ;)
That was a little "joke" about my misspelling Poweraide or Powerade - either way, it sounds like a cheap sugary caffeinated drink. (if the shoe fits!)
Fuck him, them, whatever that entity is. They don't ship to US anymore? They don't exist.
In my world anyway.
I'll take Evilution over them any day. ;)
Going to visit someone who's got CC ware! So I get to sample sooner than expected! - TTYL! - jagfug
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mmmm... maybe......
sorry to intervene....
i have a tester in Groningen who tested in test center Groningen both my batches
1 batch...which were the free samples i send around in SR......it was 34 of 73 is 46 purity...rest was GLUCOSE .
the batch.... i Am selling now...is tested also TODAY by Dutch test center Groningen at 68 of 73 is 93 purity !!!!...the rest is GLUCOSE .......STAGGERING..... IF....... ITS TRUE ???!!!??????????????????????
I do not understand at all !!..the occurring difference...i asked VXN and the guy in Groningen to call their test centers asap again....!..to make sure...for the right file...
i DO know that this taste tester in Groningen is ALLERGIC to caffeine........
SOOOO....IF any of you Dutch guys have some left...please bring it to your test center near you.....because......something must sure be clarified...here...it seems.....
i do hope.... maybe there is someone in this topic ALLERGIC to Caffeine too ??....and that some one sends some...
Of coarse no one should beleave a seller!!!.......so please bring what YOU have from me.... what YOU paid for at HO to a Dutch test center near you.. ....for gas and time and lost product.....i am willing to cover costs...and this is by no means a bride.....
I am totally confused now !!...THE MORE TC RESULTS THE BETTER !!..i guess.....!!
Sincerely Yours
HollandOnline
Call me naive but I'd wish I'd ordered 5gr with HO with my leftover coins instead of Evilution.
HO seems honest and sincere and really cares about his business and doesn't come up with stuff like having to reinstall things on his pc when orders don't show up after a week.
Last order from HO took 4 days (not domestic) but noooooooo, I wanted some speed NOW so ordered from a domestic vendor.
Result: no CC, no Evilution and no Schizofreen and the only chance of getting mail before the weekend is 5-6hrs away. Keeping high hopes.
Just when I have the whole weekend off...grrrrmblll
a grumbly (not really, well kinda) Sham.
At least I'll have lower tolerance again!
EDIT: when the BTC rating keeps on going up like this I might be able to purchase more stuff from the leftover coins of my leftover coins lolz
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btw: it's PoweradE, or Powerade + Express (because the shipping is so fast)
Ohhh he is fast alright ;)
That was a little "joke" about my misspelling Poweraide or Powerade - either way, it sounds like a cheap sugary caffeinated drink. (if the shoe fits!)
Last time I looked Powerade is shipping world wide again. His MDMA seems appetizing.
Fuck him, them, whatever that entity is. They don't ship to US anymore? They don't exist.
In my world anyway.
I'll take Evilution over them any day. ;)
Going to visit someone who's got CC ware! So I get to sample sooner than expected! - TTYL! - jagfug
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Some of us are still waiting for scans of the lab results.
I think it's good to remain critical and rather wash your stuff, if you are worried.
I'm not sure who mentioned scans of lab results but dutch labs don't hand out prints for results. You can either call for the results or visit again and they will look it up for you in the computer.
Some of us are still waiting for scans of the lab results.
I think it's good to remain critical and rather wash your stuff, if you are worried.
There won't be any scans of lab results. ever. You can open your favorite text editor, paste vxn's or speedie's results, print them and scan afterwards if that convinces you more.
Again: it's in the nature of the tests and their target audience that they will never give out full chromatograms of their results. They exist to keep users safe, not to give out free lab analysis to chemists. And crying for BM or CC won't help either, as they also don't know. Knowing would mean they do this on purpose. We're not in school, they are not your all knowing teachers.
So in other words: you can wait as long as I'm waiting for people to smarten up. Not gonna happen.
Mhm... sorry. I did not know how hard it is to get more detailed results.
Especially in Germany there is no place to which we can turn.
The laboratories abroad do not like to take to rehearse and RC's are especially hardly detected.
I thought we (europeans) were more advanced in drug safety.
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mmmm... maybe......
sorry to intervene....
i have a tester in Groningen who tested in test center Groningen both my batches
1 batch...which were the free samples i send around in SR......it was 34 of 73 is 46 purity...rest was GLUCOSE .
the batch.... i Am selling now...is tested also TODAY by Dutch test center Groningen at 68 of 73 is 93 purity !!!!...the rest is GLUCOSE .......STAGGERING..... IF....... ITS TRUE ???!!!??????????????????????
I do not understand at all !!..the occurring difference...i asked VXN and the guy in Groningen to call their test centers asap again....!..to make sure...for the right file...
i DO know that this taste tester in Groningen is ALLERGIC to caffeine........
SOOOO....IF any of you Dutch guys have some left...please bring it to your test center near you.....because......something must sure be clarified...here...it seems.....
i do hope.... maybe there is someone in this topic ALLERGIC to Caffeine too ??....and that some one sends some...
Of coarse no one should beleave a seller!!!.......so please bring what YOU have from me.... what YOU paid for at HO to a Dutch test center near you.. ....for gas and time and lost product.....i am willing to cover costs...and this is by no means a bride.....
I am totally confused now !!...THE MORE TC RESULTS THE BETTER !!..i guess.....!!
HO,
Let me start by saying that I personally really like your product, just from my own experience. Weight was fully compensated for drying with my order and my experience with trying your product last weekend was very good, so I'll probably be a returning costumer :)
Anyway; I double checked both my sample ID number and the percentages of amphetamine and caffeine with the lady I spoke to at the test centre so I'm pretty sure that those values are correct. They also fitted my expectation from my experiences; 100mg of your product really hit the spot for me, whereas 55/60mg of CC would do the same (and 130mg of a 30/73 product I had a while ago). I don't react to caffeine so I can't comment on that but I'm pretty sure that 38% of caffeine doesn't just fall out of thin air. I always make sure that I use a brand new zip lock bag for samples and my glass plate, scale and razor blades are always cleaned before handeling a new product.
I'm also really confused with the glucose you say was in the other sample. I have checked two other forums where Dutch people regularly post their test results for amphetamine and I couldn't find one person mentioning glucose. I'd say test centres don't mention it because it is not harmfull to anyone (which is the whole point of the testing services, informing you about harmfull or possibly harmfull substances) but anyone correct me if I'm wrong here.
Last but not least; there are more dutch testers on here to whom you could send a sample so that'd be good, but for double blind testing it would of course be best if people who genuinely bought your product would take it to the lab.
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btw: it's PoweradE, or Powerade + Express (because the shipping is so fast)
Ohhh he is fast alright ;)
That was a little "joke" about my misspelling Poweraide or Powerade - either way, it sounds like a cheap sugary caffeinated drink. (if the shoe fits!)
Last time I looked Powerade is shipping world wide again. His MDMA seems appetizing.
Fuck him, them, whatever that entity is. They don't ship to US anymore? They don't exist.
In my world anyway.
I'll take Evilution over them any day. ;)
Going to visit someone who's got CC ware! So I get to sample sooner than expected! - TTYL! - jagfug
Interesting! - It seems whenever I say something BOLD regarding a vendor, they suddenly (or just recently) change their way to my liking. :-[ :-\ Then I have the "Mea Culpa" job ahead of me. ::)
Like Boymaster. Where I got sick of waiting, and was like "where the hell is he? blah blah blah" - it was like "Eureka!" There's Boymaster ! Saying "More BS from jagfug" :-[ - Egg on my face to say the least! Thankfully he didn't take it to heart. Despite my weak nose-that BM is some kick ass shit!!!
Well on the current topic, I will hopefully be sampling HO as well. - On a shopping spree. Can anyone think of any vendor I've missed trying? Must ship to US.
Peace
jagfug
PS Hurricane force winds in this new SuperStorm hitting us tomorrow!! - It's called a snowstorm, maybe a blizzard. - All this hype is directly related to those in power, who launder money through fake "green energy" boondoggles. - Now there's a scam people. - (Sorry, just needed to get that out. Not happy with the Ruling Class here in USA :( )
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Meanwhile I took the gamble and placed a new order with BM. Delivery took only 4 days to Holland but the product still seems just as waxy as my first order and smells like chemical hell. Pretty far from what I expected after BM said that all new orders would be 'bone dry'. Bummer.
Sounds like we received the same. Here's a wild guess (I honestly have no clue whats going on): they prepackaged a ton of 1g, 2g, 5g orders and reopening them now would take a fuckload of time, so they send it out anyway. Doesn't explain though why I got my >5g also in waxy, dunno if I lucked out but I got extra to make up for this order(??) and the last one(??). So it's fine with me. Would be really interesting how much % a washed sample has.
edit: +100 karma, yeah!! ;D
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I maybe an idiot but I knew I was right
CapeCrusader pwns Boywonder
I would even say iisthisis > Boywonder in terms of effects, nice clean high, maybe dosage is higher
How/when/where were you right? No tests yet on CC, but I am sure it'll be >75%, more interesting though is washed BM vs. CC.
I agree on iisthisisi being > *, I hope he gets some more of the eph batch some time. Dude knows his shit. And shipping is most awesome. I think he will stay small-time vendor though, makes fewer and smaller batches, but those were all fire so far with premium handling and delivery. Smaller business means less bureaucracy, just simple and quick transactions, is what I like best.
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Got HO's results today as promised: 42% amphetamine and 38% caffeine. Which translates to roughly 58% amphetamine per weight.
Thanks for posting this, I've got quite a tolerance to caffeine so that probably explains why I enjoyed his batch so much!
i do hope.... maybe there is someone in this topic ALLERGIC to Caffeine too ??....and that some one sends some...
58% per weight ain't that bad at all. the problem with this will be that the %ages will very a lot (speaking solely from experience, often the %age of amph decreases proportionally with the distance to a test center).
That being said, I am not allergic to but react stronger than average folk to caffeine. Enough so that I od'ed on MrFireUK's 60% caffeine batch (cut with 10% amph). The review of me puking roughly 10 hours can be read here somewhere. So I won't test it. haha, caffeine OD sucks so much, you puke until there's nothing in your stomach anymore and then some. without anti-emetic (thx@valentinesmith!!) you puke until your stomach gets tears and it's not clear gastric acid anymore but dark brown to black blood. Using caffeine as adulterant is the most common and would be kinda reasonable in small amounts (kicks in quick, carries you over to the amph high) but the dosages that are used on SR are pretty much insane. It's the amph:caffeine ratio of course that matters, but personally I don't buy anything >33% caffeine for the money of amph.
If its true that HOE is aa, then your spelling has improved exponentially. way2go!
Looking at the listing: EU refund max 10%, EU MAX reship 30% -- for me: http://i.qkme.me/3r5kpw.jpg , besides I would go all the way to res center on a non-arrival. Just saying.. Putting in the description: "you order 15g amph and you will receive it maybe, or not then I'll give you 10% back" kinda allows the vendor to not send shit and keep 90% of the money. Do not like.
Second thing, although I haven't followed commercial cid-prints lately: the 5star hofmann were really poor quality (like 50ug), assuming this is a new batch the question I gotta ask myself: why in the world would someone lay 120ug on the blotter with the shittiest reputation in 2012?!
Aahh, I remember this was fun, in depth look at the listings of vendors. I stopped after I did that with FUK, what happened to him again?! haha
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Evilution can still do it if he wants to. Finally shipped out my order yesterday (stampdate) and today in my box, so weekend, here I come!!
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Got HO's results today as promised: 42% amphetamine and 38% caffeine. Which translates to roughly 58% amphetamine per weight.
Thanks for posting this, I've got quite a tolerance to caffeine so that probably explains why I enjoyed his batch so much!
i do hope.... maybe there is someone in this topic ALLERGIC to Caffeine too ??....and that some one sends some...
58% per weight ain't that bad at all. the problem with this will be that the %ages will very a lot (speaking solely from experience, often the %age of amph decreases proportionally with the distance to a test center).
That being said, I am not allergic to but react stronger than average folk to caffeine. Enough so that I od'ed on MrFireUK's 60% caffeine batch (cut with 10% amph). The review of me puking roughly 10 hours can be read here somewhere. So I won't test it. haha, caffeine OD sucks so much, you puke until there's nothing in your stomach anymore and then some. without anti-emetic (thx@valentinesmith!!) you puke until your stomach gets tears and it's not clear gastric acid anymore but dark brown to black blood. Using caffeine as adulterant is the most common and would be kinda reasonable in small amounts (kicks in quick, carries you over to the amph high) but the dosages that are used on SR are pretty much insane. It's the amph:caffeine ratio of course that matters, but personally I don't buy anything >33% caffeine for the money of amph.
If its true that HOE is aa, then your spelling has improved exponentially. way2go!
Looking at the listing: EU refund max 10%, EU MAX reship 30% -- for me: http://i.qkme.me/3r5kpw.jpg , besides I would go all the way to res center on a non-arrival. Just saying.. Putting in the description: "you order 15g amph and you will receive it maybe, or not then I'll give you 10% back" kinda allows the vendor to not send shit and keep 90% of the money. Do not like.
Second thing, although I haven't followed commercial cid-prints lately: the 5star hofmann were really poor quality (like 50ug), assuming this is a new batch the question I gotta ask myself: why in the world would someone lay 120ug on the blotter with the shittiest reputation in 2012?!
Aahh, I remember this was fun, in depth look at the listings of vendors. I stopped after I did that with FUK, what happened to him again?! haha
dont know the motivation of this post...i am a bit taken by surprise really...
We are not AAkoven, ...... if you mean that with aa ?? we have worked for AAA SR seller PremiumDutch which is not news and or a secret, since it is very clearly stated in our profile.!.....PD is SOLID !!
comments about Hofmanss...i can make here...the single printed batch is not the double printed batch we have in OUR shop.
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Got HO's results today as promised: 42% amphetamine and 38% caffeine. Which translates to roughly 58% amphetamine per weight.
Thanks for posting this, I've got quite a tolerance to caffeine so that probably explains why I enjoyed his batch so much!
mmmm... maybe......
I meant that in a good way, I'm going to be back for more!
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That being said, I am not allergic to but react stronger than average folk to caffeine. Enough so that I od'ed on MrFireUK's 60% caffeine batch (cut with 10% amph). The review of me puking roughly 10 hours can be read here somewhere. So I won't test it. haha, caffeine OD sucks so much, you puke until there's nothing in your stomach anymore and then some. without anti-emetic (thx@valentinesmith!!) you puke until your stomach gets tears and it's not clear gastric acid anymore but dark brown to black blood. Using caffeine as adulterant is the most common and would be kinda reasonable in small amounts (kicks in quick, carries you over to the amph high) but the dosages that are used on SR are pretty much insane. It's the amph:caffeine ratio of course that matters, but personally I don't buy anything >33% caffeine for the money of amph.
Pardon me for going a bit off topic here but may I ask how you react to drinking cola or coffee then?
I find this an interesting topic as I have never encountered a person who is intolerant to caffeine in real life, but quite a few people on this forum seem to have trouble with it when it comes cut with amphetamine (don't get me wrong, I trust everyone who says he or she has trouble with it, but I am intrigued by the difference that seems to exist between amphetamine cut with caffeine and everyday beverages that contain a fair amount of caffeine).
I've had the discussion about the effects of caffeine versus amphetamine with my partner a number of times while we were on a 30/73 batch of amph that was quite heavily cut with caffeine. He said that caffeine would make a difference in experience, I said that that was bullshit because he drinks coffee at work every day and I drink loads of cola every now and then, while neither of us ever feels any effect from that. To prove my point I consumed a few cans of light energydrink (to rule out the sugar rush) with a total of 350mg of caffeine on a pretty much empty stomach. Bio availability of caffeine taken orally is >95% so that should not make a difference with insufflating it as far as I can see, and 350mg of caffeine is way more than I would ever consume nasally during one amphetamine binge. Yet the only thing I felt was a bit of sleepyness after about 1,5 hour (which was probably because it takes a lot of enery for your body to break down caffeine).
So erhm.. the story above about me trying to go wild on caffeine might not be entirely relevant here but what I was trying to say is; if you can handle drinking two cups of coffee you won't have trouble with caffeinated amphetamine, is that true?
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Evilutions testresults came back. Quite shocking since I gave his speed a single quick acetone rinse which already reduced weight by 20%.
19% amphetamine, 74% caffeine. Explains why I did not feel anything.
@stoney1980, thanks for your tips. A rave is certainly the best place to make usage of amphs benefits. :)
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Evilutions testresults came back. Quite shocking since I gave his speed a single quick acetone rinse which already reduced weight by 20%.
19% amphetamine, 74% caffeine. Explains why I did not feel anything.
@stoney1980, thanks for your tips. A rave is certainly the best place to make usage of amphs benefits. :)
if its true he is a real dumbass 8)
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Pardon me for going a bit off topic here but may I ask how you react to drinking cola or coffee then?
I find this an interesting topic as I have never encountered a person who is intolerant to caffeine in real life, but quite a few people on this forum seem to have trouble with it when it comes cut with amphetamine (don't get me wrong, I trust everyone who says he or she has trouble with it, but I am intrigued by the difference that seems to exist between amphetamine cut with caffeine and everyday beverages that contain a fair amount of caffeine).
I've had the discussion about the effects of caffeine versus amphetamine with my partner a number of times while we were on a 30/73 batch of amph that was quite heavily cut with caffeine. He said that caffeine would make a difference in experience, I said that that was bullshit because he drinks coffee at work every day and I drink loads of cola every now and then, while neither of us ever feels any effect from that. To prove my point I consumed a few cans of light energydrink (to rule out the sugar rush) with a total of 350mg of caffeine on a pretty much empty stomach. Bio availability of caffeine taken orally is >95% so that should not make a difference with insufflating it as far as I can see, and 350mg of caffeine is way more than I would ever consume nasally during one amphetamine binge. Yet the only thing I felt was a bit of sleepyness after about 1,5 hour (which was probably because it takes a lot of enery for your body to break down caffeine).
So erhm.. the story above about me trying to go wild on caffeine might not be entirely relevant here but what I was trying to say is; if you can handle drinking two cups of coffee you won't have trouble with caffeinated amphetamine, is that true?
First, excuse my ignorance, but what is a "30/73 batch of amph"? amph/caffeine? doesn't make sense to me.
Basically what I was told by the doctors when this was discovered is that I will OD on a smaller dose than an average guy my size/weight. That's the essence of it.
To me it feels like I don't build up a tolerance as quickly as other people. (would be awesome if I had that with amph) I can still drink coffee, prefer tea though - less caffeine. I don't particularly like the effects of caffeine, that might be related to my OD instances and could be some sort of Pavlov's dog reaction. It's ok until a certain point, then the effects somehow "turn against me", I start noticing them more and they get unpleasant. Usually that's when I stop and wait an hour until it's over. This rarely ever happens with natural caffeine, I don't think I can drink enough coffee fast enough to produce such an OD, a sense of feeling slightly sick and foggy yes, but OD don't think so. I have to ingest large amounts of synthetic caffeine, which to me feels different as well: I easily get stomach cramps and I am very edgy and agitated. This could again very well be a learned response from my body to a known poison, just like Pavlov's dog. So I am not really "caffeine intolerant" more like overly sensitive. If you OD on 1000mg of caffeine, I will OD at 500 - 666mg roughly. Here are the symptoms of caffeine OD: http://imgur.com/EUp94vX I notice them rather quickly but they don't feel very unpleasant at first.
Mixing amph and caffeine doesn't necessarily mean you will get the effects of amph and caffeine blended together, they could potentate or block certain effects of each other. I am no pharmacologist, but what afaik should happen is the caffeine kicking in first, producing some sort of "high" loosely related to amph, once the amph kicks in it usually annihilates the effects of caffeine. In that situation my body can cope with more caffeine at once than usual without giving me annoying symptoms. I guess the amph speeds up metabolism so the caffeine is out of my system faster, combined with a nice dopamine rush and I don't notice much anymore. The problem arises when the caffeine:amph ratio is irresponsible, like the 74% caffeine of Evilutions. That is indeed evil. Assuming you need 200mg orally for a decent buzz, you start bumping the 20% gear and you'd need 1g to get your buzz. So what can happen to everyone is that the first bump produces a slight amph rush, so you know the amph is in there and the caffeine is barely noticed by an avg user. You keep bumping, get more amph effects, make bumps bigger and intervals shorter until you have enough caffeine in your body that you start puking (the precious amph amongst other things) which leaves you dehydrated and with not enough amph in your system to cope with the symptoms. The only difference is that I need less bumps and that I somehow have a different perception of the effects. Our local test center starts to warn people if they hand in samples with >25% caffeine, according to them this is too unhealthy and should not be consumed. 75% is a new record, imho totally irresponsible to sell.
To sum it up: in regard to speed, the danger is in building up a tolerance using good product, then switching to caffeine-speed. You might not notice anything at first, like you did when getting tired (paradox reactions are not uncommon, benzos can induce anxiety for example) until you push it over the edge and puke all the water out of your body. One sip of water and you start puking again. If you get stomach tears you can actually feel blood entering your stomach until you have to puke again. Often comes with heavy panic attacks, dizziness, confusion, for me always extreme headaches (earliest symptom) and of course the nausea (Diazepam is the miracle drug here). That's also why you won't find many caffeine intolerant people among speed users. 90% (guesstimated) of speed contains caffeine, you might accidentally go through too much caffeine one, two maybe three times, but it really is such an ugly state to be in that you will avoid it at all cost.
If you cut speed you sell with other psychoactive substances you are a fucking asshole.
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First, excuse my ignorance, but what is a "30/73 batch of amph"? amph/caffeine? doesn't make sense to me.
Basically..
The 30/73 was my sloppy way of saying 30% of amphetamine out of a 73% max, sorry about that. Anyway; your story was quite enlightening so thanks for explaining so eleborately! I can totally see how people build tolerance on a clean product and then switch to caffeinated amphetamine and OD on the caffeine. But I'm also surprised by the amount of caffeine that is necessary to even get symptoms of caffeine poisoning. My reasoning was based on insufflation as ROA but oral consumption of a product automatically leads to a higher caffeine intake with the same product of course.
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müslix: My guess is that your reaction to the amphetamine+caffeine combo is due to increased adrenergic effects making you more susceptible to, for lack of a better word, some kind of self-reinforcing panic loop. You recognise the physical symptoms of the noradrenaline release (higher BP, pulse, rigid muscles) as symptoms of a beginning caffeine overdose, but then when you feel those symptoms increasing and increasing (the loop) that is actually due to your psychological reaction ("shit I've taken too much caffeine again! I'm going to get sick!") triggering an increase in pulse, BP, etc and in fact not because of the physiological effect of the caffeine. Your fight-or-flight response being hyperactivated, especially the psychological part, is probably a big reason why it's so hard to calm down and break the loop.
Now this is just a rough analogy I worked out from how caffeine induced panic attacks happen.. I'm not saying you're experiencing a panic attack per se, but I think the self-reinforcing mechanism is very similar. What do you think?
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~~~Vendor Review Bungee54:~~~
Communication: 10
Packaging: 10
***Speed review:***
weight: 0,5g spot on (wet)
0,32g (dry)
After drying the Paste it has less odor but this less odor smells like it should. 100mg nasal gave them a nice rush and sweaty hands. They both agreed with about 60% of Amphetamine (felt) in this Speed. But the price is bit too much in our opinion.
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I love SR because I can finally get my dextroamphetamine without the rest of the shit they put in adderall,
however I continue to be disappointed by the lack of competition the few d-amp sellers (whether dexedrine or vyvanse) have.
I don't blame them for the semi-high prices, just wish the market would expand
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Second order from BM arrived today: http://upchi.co.il/97vu54u6q09l (picture)
Little underweight and still waxy... no fun.
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Second order from BM arrived today: http://upchi.co.il/97vu54u6q09l (picture)
Little underweight and still waxy... no fun.
VERY BAD NEWS ! seems that bm is now also sells crap ... or not the quality he desribed in his offer >:(
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Well, it's still potent and does the job.
But for premium prices, it should be a premium product.
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VERY BAD NEWS ! seems that bm is now also just another bitch who sells crap :-(
Please keep calm. The labresults show that it is not appropriate to call BM's products crap and certainly not BM a bitch. Also he does contribute to this thread every now and then, has admitted the products do not hold up to his own standards and is apparently prepared to solve any problems. We should praise vendors who are interested in the concerns of their customers. :)
Is it an idea to aggregate all labtest results into a single table for easy overview? You can just post the results in a similar manner.
Vendor:
Product:
User:
Purchase Date:
Purity / Weight:
Contaminations:
Comments:
I have made an example at: braqrsskizlusigz.onion
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VERY BAD NEWS ! seems that bm is now also just another bitch who sells crap :-(
Please keep calm. The labresults show that it is not appropriate to call BM's products crap and certainly not BM a bitch. Also he does contribute to this thread every now and then, has admitted the products do not hold up to his own standards and is apparently prepared to solve any problems. We should praise vendors who are interested in the concerns of their customers. :)
Is it an idea to aggregate all labtest results into a single table for easy overview? You can just post the results in a similar manner.
Vendor:
Product:
User:
Purchase Date:
Purity / Weight:
Contaminations:
Comments:
I have made an example at: braqrsskizlusigz.onion
Here Here!!
Thank you for leveling the "high-emotions" out.
Your template for reviews is a good one. Though I will never have those lab results. I am only able to give a personal experience to it all.
If you look back in the threads, I had more problems than BM's waxy consistency. - I assumed it was the base the was leftover.
Without a clinical analysis, one could easily determine that my nose had just about enough of the variety of cut speeds out there, and BM's latest batch, was just too strong for me.
Though I quickly learned to respect the strength.
I thought I was going to go through a speed withdrawal today. Nothing in mail, though I'm expecting more than the weather forecast for Massachusetts !~ :P
I found a half full capsule off BM's stuff I stashed away. It was most likely 40-50mgs. It got me through the day.
I look forward to my 5g order of BM's gear, even if it is the same. - I know how to handle it now, and other than CC, I have yet to feel a stronger speed than BM's.
I look forward to it
Peace
jagfug
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Second order from BM arrived today: http://upchi.co.il/97vu54u6q09l (picture)
Little underweight and still waxy... no fun.
VERY BAD NEWS ! seems that bm is now also just another bitch who sells crap :-(
You obviously have very little experience with amphetamine and with the products being sold here.
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I can only compare with CC's amphetamine, which is in the same price range.
But BM makes no move for the shortfalls from the first waxy orders and now it's waxy again.
As i said above, it's still a very potent product in contrast to the usual caffeine cutted speed on SR or street grade ones, but i expected a little bit more. Especially after his/their announcement for a dry and clean product in future. It's as simple as that.
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Evilutions testresults came back. Quite shocking since I gave his speed a single quick acetone rinse which already reduced weight by 20%.
19% amphetamine, 74% caffeine. Explains why I did not feel anything.
Dafuq? In that case something must be wrong with me. I've ordered a few times from Evilution (well, maybe 2-3 times) and I always got the same buzz/feeling I get from other amph (including CC/BM). However I do need more to get the same effect when using stuff from "lesser speedgods" but not by an incredible amount. (except that time when I did multiple washes on Evil's gear which indeed lost me a good amount in volume, a small line was enough)
Is it possible my large daily coffee usage has something to do with it? I'm pretty much a coffee addict, so maybe that's why I don't feel sick let alone puke and all those nasty side effects I'm reading here?
With the right dosage all amph so far feels the same to me, but I don't think I ever had to use outrageous amounts to get the job done.
Even with high tolerance the most I've used at once was maybe 150mg (oral, can't remember which vendor) and that's a lot for me. I usually measure 100mg and make it into toothpick size lines and snort it until I'm satisfied by the effect. And I rarely use up the full 100mg in one day.
So far I've had Evilution, Powerade, CC, BM, Hollandonline, Polq1234, Iisthisisi 30% stuff. Could it be caffeine rush/amph rush doesn't make a difference to my brain? Might as well start using pure caffeine in that case lol.
The only time I really felt no effect at all was the polq1234 "amph-sample".
Iisthisisi's 30% stuff wasn't too great either in terms of effects and definitely the structure was weird, like grains of salt. But at least kept me awake for a while.
I gotta admit though, doing 50mg CC at once is already pretty speedy for me. BM is weird, Ive been way too fucked up on a measly 15mg but the next day 80-100mg is no problem at all (not all at once, just small bumps, you think twice if you got fucked up on 15mg the day before). Too bad the body load is often too intense for me so that's why I'm more of a CC fan atm.
It's also possible I never had the experience of being REALLY speedy and I only think I'm being really speedy compared to what you guys feel.
I don't remember what the point of all this typing is, nor what this post is really about so I'm gonna stop typing cause getting it's too chaotic lmao.
However, I'm gonna stop ordering from Evilution because I feel this is really ripping-off. I'm ok with SOME cutting but only 19% is ridiculous!
Hollandonline seems like a good choice price/quality for cheaper amph?? For sure he delivers much faster than Evilution and the speed has this yum sweet drip (the glucose I learned here today).
Laterz,
Sham
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Hi speedfreaks,
is Evilution still ok? Anybody tested it lately? there is a new batch or always the same? I read good reviews a few weeks a go.
Prices are more or less like Powerade, I never ordered from Evilution and I'd like to know if it worth a try.
Not that I'm not happy with Powerade, but wanted to compare a similar gears.
For CC new batch sadly there is quite a long wait.. ;)
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hi mates ... sorry for my "bitch" post (which is now edited).
but when a vendor sells 98% amph then i want 98% amph (look at the price).
the next thing makes me angry is that BM said in another post that he dont sell this waxy stuff anymore .... and what he do ??? he send it out again.
and mates, this is a "bitch" thing !
best regards
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Hi there,
I received my CC's order after 25 days to western EU. So don't worry people, post seems a bit slow down there, but here it is. Weight is good and product is dry, with yellow tinge that disapear when grinding it into powder. (looks like my first BM's order)
The amph is VERY good and potent. Took around 50 mg with morning coffe at work to cure my hangover from my music rehersal booze binge the night before, got skyrocketed through the day, made the mistake of redosing maybe 25mg as a bonus in the afternoon and didn't sleep at all because i only had weak benzos on hand.
As already said by other, the high is very clean and mind is clear. Maybe a bit more than the first BM's order i received in september (beautiful batch, better than the last one), i can't really compare. The waxy batch has a bit more "overload" when using regularly.
To me, either BM or CC is the way to go when i compare to the half-ass amph (or whatever it is) i ordered elsewhere, and i'm sure the waxy pb will be solved. But even waxy, this is one of the best stuff around, in the jungle of the speed market.
Also Iisthisisi had a good batch around end of november, which was potent, very easy to recover from a binge, and had a strange metallic taste.
Thanks for bringing the lights in this shady amph market.
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hi mates ... sorry for my "bitch" post (which is now edited).
but when a vendor sells 98% amph then i want 98% amph (look at the price).
the next thing makes me angry is that BM said in another post that he dont sell this waxy stuff anymore .... and what he do ??? he send it out again.
Bitching is not classy in my opinion ;) but I do agree that BM is messing around a bit, which is also not classy. Pretty much every seller claims their product to be more pure than it actually is and BM still delivers a pretty strong product so that doesn't bother me all that much. The wax.. sucks, but shit happens and one quick acetone rinse gets rid of it. It would have been fair if he apologized, held the sale to compensate and promised that things would be better with his next batch. The fact that he commented here that no more wax would be shipped out which turned out not to be true does irritate me though.
I received my CC's order after 25 days to western EU. So don't worry people, post seems a bit slow down there, but here it is.
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Woah, thumbs up for being patient! I placed a second order with both BM (because I wanted to check out his 'bone dry' stuff..) and CC (because his stuff is so damn nice) and both were a LOT faster the second time around. CC took only 6 business days to Holland and BM only 4.
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I got my CC order today, took 11 days to North America. Standard letter mail packaging.
Popped my amphetamine cherry with 10mg(not looking for intense stim action, just a boost). I was pleasantly surprised with the stuff. it is now 10 hours later and I am ready to fall asleep. Kept me going for a long night of socializing and dancing. I cannot compare the product to anything else but I figure it must be pretty pure to work so well at a low dose.
Quite a useful substance though definitely see the potential for abuse. It would be very easy to substitute it for the morning coffee.
Thanks CC!
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hi mates ... sorry for my "bitch" post (which is now edited).
but when a vendor sells 98% amph then i want 98% amph (look at the price).
the next thing makes me angry is that BM said in another post that he dont sell this waxy stuff anymore .... and what he do ??? he send it out again.
Bitching is not classy in my opinion ;) but I do agree that BM is messing around a bit, which is also not classy. Pretty much every seller claims their product to be more pure than it actually is and BM still delivers a pretty strong product so that doesn't bother me all that much. The wax.. sucks, but shit happens and one quick acetone rinse gets rid of it. It would have been fair if he apologized, held the sale to compensate and promised that things would be better with his next batch. The fact that he commented here that no more wax would be shipped out which turned out not to be true does irritate me though.
I received my CC's order after 25 days to western EU. So don't worry people, post seems a bit slow down there, but here it is.
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Woah, thumbs up for being patient! I placed a second order with both BM (because I wanted to check out his 'bone dry' stuff..) and CC (because his stuff is so damn nice) and both were a LOT faster the second time around. CC took only 6 business days to Holland and BM only 4.
hi my friend ,
is acetone washing so easy ? simply mix speed and acetone and let the acetone vapor ?
best regards
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is acetone washing so easy ? simply mix speed and acetone and let the acetone vapor ?
best regards
Best to dry your acetone with magnesium sulphate. Then heat the acetone NOT WITH DIRECT FIRE to about 60 celcius and mix in your amphetamine. Stir like crazy and make sure to squash all the larger lumps. Then get a coffee filter and a beaker and pour your mixture in the filter. Try to keep the paste in the lower part of the filter to minimize loss. Dry, scrape out of the filter and repeat once more. Let the acetone dry in the air. Done ;D
Oh and try to do it in a well ventilated area.
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Got my CC order yesterday, pretty quick all things considered, product is just perfect for me, best I ever had even better than UK pink champagne wizz in the eighties.
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Eric Cartman, order of 10g speed paste never received international. I did privnote and never received the email notification that my privnote link was hit. I ordered on about 28/12/2012 and extended x2. Second time I PM'ed Cartman who told me order was sent 24/01/2013. I torpedoed my noobie stats and took a 50% refund. Lesson learned.
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is acetone washing so easy ? simply mix speed and acetone and let the acetone vapor ?
best regards
Best to dry your acetone with magnesium sulphate. Then heat the acetone NOT WITH DIRECT FIRE to about 60 celcius and mix in your amphetamine. Stir like crazy and make sure to squash all the larger lumps. Then get a coffee filter and a beaker and pour your mixture in the filter. Try to keep the paste in the lower part of the filter to minimize loss. Dry, scrape out of the filter and repeat once more. Let the acetone dry in the air. Done ;D
Oh and try to do it in a well ventilated area.
Thank you very much !
+1
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So does Powerade really require you to FE on that 5 gram listing, even if you're an established buyer here (30+ orders with $2500+ spent)? Seems kind of ridiculous to me, there's no way in hell I'd go for that, no matter the quality of his product.
On another note, anyone have any vendor recommendations they'd like to share? I checked the last 5 or 6 pages, but I couldn't find a definitive answer to the current scene right now. And who is CC?
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Here are the results from Eric Cartman's stuff
There was 32% amphetamine in it so 32/73*100 makes 44% absolute.
The amount of caffeine was 38 %.
I was ordering in the time he would double the amount for the first ten buyers so I ordered 10 gram.
What I was receiving was 15 gram and very wet. I sent him a mail what I had received and two weeks later I received another 11 gram not bone dry but not as wet as the first time. So totally I had more then 20 gram.
It was strange stuff and it did not dry completely . It was a kind of orange/purple bubble gum.
But his stuff works good for me and my girlfriend better then Powerade's stuff with about the same
My experience with Eric Cartman was not bad at all.
Regards Speedie
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It seems like everyone has recieved CC's amph within the last 3 days or so regardless of location or time of order :D.
My order took approx 25 days to Australia, weight was almost spot on. Like many others here, I recieved a dry, yellowish piece, although it looked like he may have screwed up a bit with packaging, the bag was cut and some of the amph had leaked. The vac seal caught it though.
@sweetone: An acetone wash is not a difficult task, however there are a few bits that are easy to screw up, and screwing up means wasting a lot of product, so be cautious to the point of tedium.
The first step is drying the acetone. Store bought acetone almost always has at least a small amount of moisture in it. Given that amphetamine is extremely water soluable, even 2ml of water is enough to dissolve a 2g batch of amphetamine.
Make sure to bake the Epsom salts at a fairly high temperature for a good period of time, 3-4 hours.
When dealing with the baked epsom salts and dried acetone, try to keep them in an airtight environment for as much of the time as possible. Every second its exposed to air, moisture is being introduced.
Always save the wash, even if it was successful, drying out and keeping the extract is a good practice to get in to.
The procedure is essentially just dumping the amphetamine in acetone,(30ml acetone to 5g amphetamine works fairly well in my experience) allowing it to dissolve the impurities, then decanting the acetone (pouring it off without pouring off any of the amphetamine.
@speedie: To say I'm surprised at the results would be a bit of an understatement. I react fairly predictably to PNS stimulants, whilst I did get some of these from Evilution's speed, it wasn't nearly enough for me to believe there was anywhere near 70% caffeine.
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The first step is drying the acetone. Store bought acetone almost always has at least a small amount of moisture in it. Given that amphetamine is extremely water soluable, even 2ml of water is enough to dissolve a 2g batch of amphetamine.
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The procedure is essentially just dumping the amphetamine in acetone,(30ml acetone to 5g amphetamine works fairly well in my experience) allowing it to dissolve the impurities, then decanting the acetone (pouring it off without pouring off any of the amphetamine.
@FractalGlobal
+1 for nice tone wash input and good remark about baking magnesium sulfate.
Just a couple correction/comment...
-Amphetamine sulfate water solubility is 1:9 (1g amph in 9ml water) so its not so extremly water soluble :)
-1g of caffeine will dissolve fully at 50ml of acetone so that is not so great solubility and may reconsider acetone volume if amphetamine is cutted with significant amounts of caffeine (30ml acetone for 5g amph would not be enough for caffeine clean up).
Epsom salt what is bought for agricultural/industry use is in the form of heptahydrate (MgSO4.7H2O) and it can not be used as drying agent. Its already bonded with water. It need to be anhydrous, so as FractalGlobal suggested, it must be placed in the oven on high temperature on few hrs resulting dry MgSO4 or to purchase lab grade anhydrous MgSO4 drying agent (not cause for red flag).
btw
+1 for test results and interesing disscusion about amph/caffeine interaction.
Caffeine bother me as well and amph washed with ether/chloroform produced far better effects. Call this interaction subjective/imagination or not it still exist as statistical fact and based on reports all over the internet.
+1 to 6DEE3CADA as well :)
Good night
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I have skimmed this thread and included most labresults in a single table. The results where interpreted to my best knowledge. If you do notice any problems please contact me or post in this thread. Please keep the labtests coming. Personal experiences are of course also welcome. But the main problem is that they get buried in this very big thread easily. They also aren't easily integrated in an objective manner.
For clarity please posts your results in the following format
Vendor:
Product:
User:
Purchase Date:
Purity / Weight: [include if measurement is in HCL, SO4 or Freebase form]
Contaminations:
Comments:
Have a look at: braqrsskizlusigz.onion
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I have skimmed this thread and included most labresults in a single table. The results where interpreted to my best knowledge. If you do notice any problems please contact me or post in this thread. Please keep the labtests coming. Personal experiences are of course also welcome. But the main problem is that they get buried in this very big thread easily. They also aren't easily integrated in an objective manner.
For clarity please posts your results in the following format
Vendor:
Product:
User:
Purchase Date:
Purity / Weight: [include if measurement is in HCL, SO4 or Freebase form]
Contaminations:
Comments:
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Great work man! +1
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Well, just to "Keep it Real", I'm one of those personal experience poster/users.
I'm in a amphetamine withdraw this weekend.
Snowbound, with just alcohol and caffeine, I am a prime test subject for what's about to come..... close to 20 grams all together. Many of the famous names mentioned here before.
So stay tuned kiddies!!! - I will be performing my first acetone wash as soon as my 5g order from BM gets here. I could totally blow it, but I think with the great instructions listed lately,
I'm more confident. I'll keep you posted. -
Snowbound in an alcohol caffeine haze....
Peace
jafug
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So that I can make more sales... since there is a lack of North American Speed vendors.. I'm going to offer free amphetamine samples to a few people on here to get some good feedback. I've already chosen who, so don't ask to be one, and no I haven't PMed any of them yet. Anyways, I want to know what size of a sample I should give so I can make the stealth listing? This amphetamine is supposed to be 60% purity. Your input is greatly appreciated.
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My input? Don't make such a post if you are not offering anyone samples for their feedback with it. Just send the samples already if you know where they are going, and we look forward to hear their reviews, but otherwise, what were you saying?
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My input? Don't make such a post if you are not offering anyone samples for their feedback with it. Just send the samples already if you know where they are going, and we look forward to hear their reviews, but otherwise, what were you saying?
I want to know what an appropriate sample size is...
.10g?
.20g?
.25g?
.30g?
.40g?
.50g?
If it is strong they shouldn't need much, but if it's not as strong as I'm told, they'd need more.. but I don't think more than .5g is necessary, since I get sped up on a fraction of that... but I've got no tolerance built up and don't really like to use it recreation-ally.
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My input? Don't make such a post if you are not offering anyone samples for their feedback with it. Just send the samples already if you know where they are going, and we look forward to hear their reviews, but otherwise, what were you saying?
I want to know what an appropriate sample size is...
.10g?
.20g?
.25g?
.30g?
.40g?
.50g?
If it is strong they shouldn't need much, but if it's not as strong as I'm told, they'd need more.. but I don't think more than .5g is necessary, since I get sped up on a fraction of that... but I've got no tolerance built up and don't really like to use it recreation-ally.
.50 to 1gram has been the norm for me. Beggars can't be pleasures.
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I have skimmed this thread and included most labresults in a single table. The results where interpreted to my best knowledge. If you do notice any problems please contact me or post in this thread. Please keep the labtests coming. Personal experiences are of course also welcome. But the main problem is that they get buried in this very big thread easily. They also aren't easily integrated in an objective manner.
For clarity please posts your results in the following format
Vendor:
Product:
User:
Purchase Date:
Purity / Weight: [include if measurement is in HCL, SO4 or Freebase form]
Contaminations:
Comments:
Have a look at: braqrsskizlusigz.onion
Great! +1!
Had a nice little chat with HollandOnline yesterday. Very friendly fellow who encourages to test his product in a lab and post the results on SR. Could be a sign of a honest vendor with a quality product.
Anyway I decided to give it a go, will post test results asap.
Ps Dutch lab still slow as fuck? Last time it took 3 weeks to get the results.
Pps forget about the +1. Either my newbie status won't let me moderate or I'm to dumb to figure it out :o
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My input? Don't make such a post if you are not offering anyone samples for their feedback with it. Just send the samples already if you know where they are going, and we look forward to hear their reviews, but otherwise, what were you saying?
I want to know what an appropriate sample size is...
.10g?
.20g?
.25g?
.30g?
.40g?
.50g?
If it is strong they shouldn't need much, but if it's not as strong as I'm told, they'd need more.. but I don't think more than .5g is necessary, since I get sped up on a fraction of that... but I've got no tolerance built up and don't really like to use it recreation-ally.
FOXCAVE
point ... is enough
this allows more crew on the ship a little taste of your sixty percent slip
Your identical twin brother aptly named PANACEA will soon be making a sale to..
Yours Truly
P.S.
That is like the most well thought of vendor name on the road
A remedy for constantly craving
POW WOW
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Well, just to "Keep it Real", I'm one of those personal experience poster/users.
I'm in a amphetamine withdraw this weekend.
Snowbound, with just alcohol and caffeine, I am a prime test subject for what's about to come..... close to 20 grams all together. Many of the famous names mentioned here before.
So stay tuned kiddies!!! - I will be performing my first acetone wash as soon as my 5g order from BM gets here. I could totally blow it, but I think with the great instructions listed lately,
I'm more confident. I'll keep you posted. -
Snowbound in an alcohol caffeine haze....
Peace
jafug
Maybe just try to wash a gram at the time, so you can get some practice with each wash and/or tweak wash process each time to see, what gives you best results. :D
Definitely report back with results and washing process used! :D
Btw I'm still waiting for my BM's order. Hopefully everything goes smooth, because this is my first SR order. ^^
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So what if you buy the stuff from, I don't know, Ebay, for example, which is "99% pure acetone" - is that total bullshit, or is it true but I still need to make it anhydrous?
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Great! +1!
Had a nice little chat with HollandOnline yesterday. Very friendly fellow who encourages to test his product in a lab and post the results on SR. Could be a sign of a honest vendor with a quality product.
Anyway I decided to give it a go, will post test results asap.
Ps Dutch lab still slow as fuck? Last time it took 3 weeks to get the results.
Pps forget about the +1. Either my newbie status won't let me moderate or I'm to dumb to figure it out :o
I have PM-ed HO weeks ago about his "Lab tested claims". I would like to know what the actual results were. Still have to receive an answer though. I also cannot moderate posts. I would love to give many contributing members a +1 but i cannot unfortunately. My lab test also took 3 weeks.
So what if you buy the stuff from, I don't know, Ebay, for example, which is "99% pure acetone" - is that total bullshit, or is it true but I still need to make it anhydrous?
No that's not bullshit. The solubility of amphetamine is 50–100 mg/mL in water. So a 200ml bottle of 99% acetone can contain 2ml water. Which is enough water to dissolve 100-200mg of amphetamine. You have to remove the water. You can use epsomsalts. I have frozen the acetone in a freezer and small clumps of solid formed at the bottom of the bottle. So maybe you can just freeze and filter out the frozen water.
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I have skimmed this thread and included most labresults in a single table. The results where interpreted to my best knowledge. If you do notice any problems please contact me or post in this thread. Please keep the labtests coming. Personal experiences are of course also welcome. But the main problem is that they get buried in this very big thread easily. They also aren't easily integrated in an objective manner.
For clarity please posts your results in the following format
Vendor:
Product:
User:
Purchase Date:
Purity / Weight: [include if measurement is in HCL, SO4 or Freebase form]
Contaminations:
Comments:
Have a look at: braqrsskizlusigz.onion
Excellent idea! I think the table would be even better if you put a link to the relevant forum post(s) next to each result. For example: I think the iisthisisi result at 72% might be given in the dutch fashion, so it's actually around 99%, but I can't check without digging through the thread to find the post with the result.
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Pps forget about the +1. Either my newbie status won't let me moderate or I'm to dumb to figure it out :o
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I also cannot moderate posts. I would love to give many contributing members a +1 but i cannot unfortunately. My lab test also took 3 weeks.
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Only those who have >100 posts can give karma. Be patient and keep posting :)
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My input? Don't make such a post if you are not offering anyone samples for their feedback with it. Just send the samples already if you know where they are going, and we look forward to hear their reviews, but otherwise, what were you saying?
I want to know what an appropriate sample size is...
.10g?
.20g?
.25g?
.30g?
.40g?
.50g?
If it is strong they shouldn't need much, but if it's not as strong as I'm told, they'd need more.. but I don't think more than .5g is necessary, since I get sped up on a fraction of that... but I've got no tolerance built up and don't really like to use it recreation-ally.
I'd say .25 or .30 is enough for most...maybe .5 for the vets
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Excellent idea! I think the table would be even better if you put a link to the relevant forum post(s) next to each result. For example: I think the iisthisisi result at 72% might be given in the dutch fashion, so it's actually around 99%, but I can't check without digging through the thread to find the post with the result.
Only those who have >100 posts can give karma. Be patient and keep posting :)
I have been playing with the thought. But filtering these results was already a hassle, so maybe in the future. The current test results are also just for getting things going. Lab results which will be added in the future will gradually be more trustworthy and exact. The purity is already compensated for weight. So the results are actual amphetamine[SO4|HCL] percentages vs total weight. Maybe in the future we can add the SO4, HCL (more potent) or freebase type. But most substances are just SO4. Thanks!
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@6DEE3CADA
I would add two values:
1. purchase price from SR
2. Bitcoin market value for example from mtgox.com
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-Amphetamine sulfate water solubility is 1:9 (1g amph in 9ml water) so its not so extremly water soluble :)
Oops, I wasn't able to find the value through google search so I made a guess based on my knowledge of methamphetamine soluability, which is stupid in retrospect given (to the best of my knowledge) the main difference that the additional methyl group makes is increased water solubility.
@foxy: A sample shouldn't need to be more than 200mg imo. At 60% purity thats 120mg amph which should be easily enough for even someone with a fairly high tolerance to give a decent opinion.
@jagfug: I definitely suggest washing in smaller batches. Theoretically you will get slightly higher mechanical losses, but it would be negligable to say the least, and screwing up a small wash is a lot better than screwing up a big one.
@6DEE3CADA: Great work with the table. One thing that could be very useful is a $/g of amphetamine. i.e. if vendor x's product is 50%, 1g costs $20, the $/g would be $40. It would give us a more accurate idea of who really has the cheapest product(Spoiler: BM/CC wins)
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I have been playing with the thought. But filtering these results was already a hassle, so maybe in the future. The current test results are also just for getting things going. Lab results which will be added in the future will gradually be more trustworthy and exact. The purity is already compensated for weight. So the results are actual amphetamine[SO4|HCL] percentages vs total weight. Maybe in the future we can add the SO4, HCL (more potent) or freebase type. But most substances are just SO4. Thanks!
Yeah, I didn't mean you should go through the thread again just to find the links :). Keep up the good work!
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Most of the time I have the results from the dutch lab's in 8 days .
Only with Christmas I had to wait 15 days but that's only once a year.
Speedie
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@foxy: A sample shouldn't need to be more than 200mg imo. At 60% purity thats 120mg amph which should be easily enough for even someone with a fairly high tolerance to give a decent opinion.
Thank you very much!
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Have a look at: braqrsskizlusigz.onion
Woahh that's brilliant! :) +1
Good to see speed thread thriving lately hehe, I'm a little bit less active because I'm so busy doing lots of things :P (blame CC 8) )
I'm also delighted to see that EricCartmen is living up to my expectations, I knew he was full of it.
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Have a look at: braqrsskizlusigz.onion
Woahh that's brilliant! :) +1
Good to see speed thread thriving lately hehe, I'm a little bit less active because I'm so busy doing lots of things :P (blame CC 8) )
I'm also delighted to see that EricCartmen is living up to my expectations, I knew he was full of it.
All hail Knomo!!
That is the link we've been waiting for!!
I only wish I'd seen it $1k (USD) ago!!
But still. It's great. I know which ones I can "share" and which I should keep for my "prepper stash" LoL :-* :-X
Tomorrow has to bring at least 1 if not 3 or 4 deliveries. I didn't plan it that way, but at this point, it's inevitable.
BTW, what is the accuracy of those postings? I mean, I want to believe it, but anyone can put up a list like that. Is there some way to insure trust/accuracy of those postings??
Thanks
jagfug
edir
PS. I realize original thanks goes to 6DEE3CADA for posting that, but there's been so many great posts lately, I missed it!! ;)
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I have skimmed this thread and included most labresults in a single table. The results where interpreted to my best knowledge. If you do notice any problems please contact me or post in this thread. Please keep the labtests coming. Personal experiences are of course also welcome. But the main problem is that they get buried in this very big thread easily. They also aren't easily integrated in an objective manner.
For clarity please posts your results in the following format
Vendor:
Product:
User:
Purchase Date:
Purity / Weight: [include if measurement is in HCL, SO4 or Freebase form]
Contaminations:
Comments:
Have a look at: braqrsskizlusigz.onion
This looks really good 6DEE3CADA! A sortable list on a single page is so much easier than scrolling through the whole thread.
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A regular monthly update would be excellent...Volunteers anyone?
Have a look at: braqrsskizlusigz.onion
Woahh that's brilliant! :) +1
Good to see speed thread thriving lately hehe, I'm a little bit less active because I'm so busy doing lots of things :P (blame CC 8) )
I'm also delighted to see that EricCartmen is living up to my expectations, I knew he was full of it.
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Alright, a joyful morning today when I opened my mailbox to find my precious CC order and test-order of Schizofreen (2g) had finally arrived. So what do we have here?
CAPE CRUSADER: pure amphetamine sulphate powder (1g + 2g)
Not much to say about it that hasn't been said here already. It's my second order from him, a little later it was all sold out so I got lucky.
- Ordered: January 31, 2013
- Shipped: February 1, 2013
- Date on stamp February 4, 2013
- Arrival Western Europe: February 11, 2013
What else can I say? It's from the same batch lots of others received, smells the same, looks the same and probably tastes and feels the same too.
Packaging is well done, no odors, no imprints, tight and secure. Again with the little cuts in the side of both baggies, I guess this is for vaporizing on the road??
*Weight*
Didn't weight individually, just put both baggies on the scale.
- 3,804g (baggies included)
- 2,935g chopped net weight + some left sticking in the bags (will be rinsed in a drink). So I'm alright with this, considering scale accuracies/tiny spillings and all that yadda yadda.
Didn't try yet but I know it's gonna be good. :)
SCHIZOFREEN: 1g Amphetamine pasta (x2)
First time ordering from him, decided to try my luck with some leftover coins.
Product description states it's 60% pure so I didn't hesitate for such a low price, fully aware a description is just that, a description.
I later noticed it also says "Very high quality, originates from Holland. There is a clean energetic high that lasts for 8 hours with a 0.25 gram dosage. No bad side effects."
This already made a little bell ring. I consider taking 250mg is a huge amount for 60% purity, but that's just my opinion.
- Ordered: February 1, 2013
- Shipped: February 4, 2013
- Couldn't read date on stamp
- Arrival Western Europe: February 11, 2013
Not the fastest delivery time considering this guy is practically my neighbor. But ok, it arrived within a reasonable time.
The packaging/security is a bit amateurish though and made me lol a little. The paste was a tiny round ball (!!??) exactly like on the picture on SR.
The "container" were just a ziplock within a ziplock and I could smell the chemical odor through the envelope (thankfully my mailman close to retirement age). Nobody cares here if it's small amounts but I can imagine if you live in a country with stricter customs/LE this could be a problem.
*General stuff*:
At first sight it looks pretty dry, but it's actually very moist with a weird texture.
Just like BM's amph, after chopping, was kinda like Parmesan cheese. this stuff looks like Mozzarella during chopping but not as wet. Am I developing a cheese fetish or what?? Once dry it's a nice white powder.
Unfortunately it smells exactly like Evilution's speed I received last week so even though I was still defending his reputation somewhat I now have to admit that speed was really shitty (labtests never lie I guess).
*Weight*:
Same way as CC, dumped the bag on the scale without removing product.
- 2,497g (bag included)
- 1,634g after drying (bag excluded).
So with tiny spilling and scale accuracies in mind (nothing was left sticking in the bag with this one) that's a loss of almost 0.5g on a 2g order. Not happy about that, but expected when ordering paste. I dunno why I secretly keep hoping vendors add a reasonable amount of extra paste to compensate the loss. I'm just that naive I guess.
*Effects*
Bumped 50mg about 1,5hrs ago and it made me a bit more awake, no side effects yet (but caffeine doesn't affect me at all though) but far from euphoric and I'm sure I could go and sleep if I wanted to right now.
So if you have tolerance you're gonna need more. I was gonna do another 50mg but decided I'm gonna do a 25mg of CC after finishing up this post.
All in all this Schizofreen speed is ok if you only use once in a while (or when you feel like typing it seems lol) for a low price but if you're a more regular user you might end up unhappy. Too bad testlabs aren't available here.
CC time now,
Sham
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This is awesome! A commendable endeavour. Is it linked from the first post yet?
I wonder how AAkoven feels being consistently the worst speed vendor on the road.... ;D
I received a couple grams of BM this morning:
Shipping 5/5: I chose priority shipping and it was marked in transit within 12 hours or so. 6 days to western EU including weekends.
Stealth 5/5: Standard for the road. No leakages or funky smells. Couldn't feel the contents easily.
THE DRUGS 4.5/5: I got the yellow waxy stuff. Looks and smells like paste, though I have only tried paste a couple times. It is not so waxy that you cannot cut some nice lines, you just need to work on the chunks a little bit. It came to just over 2g.
I have a bit of a tolerance at the moment due to the last few months' meth use (approx 1.5 grams since just before Christmas. Haven't used anything in the last couple of weeks) so I've snorted about 100mg in the last hour. I'm nicely in the zone 8). Cold hands, little bit sweaty, rather horny. The usual.
I mix it with tobacco snuff for snorting. This lessens the burn considerably, I'm guessing due to the acidic tobacco somewhat neutralizing the amphetamine. Worth a try, though the drip from tobacco is a bit nasty.
Conclusion 4/5: I feel focused and comfortable but slightly underwhelmed - though I think I've become too accustomed to the mental freight train that is meth. Tolerance to any amphetamine just seems to get higher and higher, no matter how long you wait between uses. It is also very subjective - some days I feel soaring euphoria off the same dose that only a few days ago had me snoozing on the couch. Anyway, I conclude that it is good, uncut speed that has suffered at the hands of an amateur chemist. If it weren't good, I wouldn't be writing this rambling nonsense.
Next batch I try (unless iisthisisi returns with his killer stuff) will be HollandOnline if he can somehow remove the caffeine! I don't have any problem with inert cuts if the vendor is honest about it and the price is adjusted accordingly, but (this is coming from a long time caffeine addict) caffeine positively ruins good speed. That stuff is pure body load.
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Yeah that's a shame about the high levels of caffeine in HO's that showed up in one of the tests (the sample I received was enjoyable, but tested less purity but also less caffeine I believe)...why on earth would someone think that they needed to add caffeine to 60% pure amphet?? Any positive effects of the caffeine are completely overshadowed by the amp, headaches and jitteriness are all that it adds to the experience. It's like adding flat beer to a nice glass of bourbon.
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I had a sample of HollandOnline. No tolerance at all. Both Mrs H and myself bombed 1/4g paste each. Came on after about 30mins in a euphoric horny rush with really good body tweak and complete loss of morals..... ..Up all night :-} ..! Just the buzz we like.
7 days break and BM arrived.in time for weekend To be a bit cautious (for us) only bombed .200g each. 40 mins later fucking huge rush ..but not as much tweak .... Mrs H cleaned everything ..she never cleans..and i spent hours mixing techno..i hate techno...
Now I'm confused...The lower strength Amp has a much stronger physical, horny buzz, while the cleaner stronger Amp has less tweak with a tendency to talk bollocks, make endless techno drum loops and clean stuff..
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I found the same thing with HO's speed; very euphoric and exactly what I want for raves. However AfghanApothecary's is not nearly as euphoric, but motivational and less potent.
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Anyone know if there's a way for us US users to get tests like you guys across the pond are able to get?
I would think somehow, some anonymous lab, perhaps in the name of "harm reduction", might be doing this. There is a very well know College nearby that is know for it's Chemistry, and many great drugs, have been produced there clandestinely over the years.
I guess I'm being overly hopeful, but perhaps someone will come forward with an idea for us over here. Thanks to any suggestions.
Here's what's on it's way for me this week, and should arrive in this order, give or take. (Some may come the same day!) I expect at least one tomorrow.
Evilution 1g
Cape Crusader 2g
BoyMaster 5g
Maxhavelaar 2g
HollandOnline 2g
Powerade 5g (These were all before I saw that Buyers Review/Amphetamine Test Results page) - Hopefully they're not 100% right. - But still, I'll take caffeinated speed, if there's nothing else! :-\
Still this link is interesting. I just hope it's accurate. As accurate as "the honor system" can be I guess.
http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion/
I'll probably stash a "Best" and "Not So Best" stash away in the freezer for a rainy day. . . or a "dry" one. ;)
Thanks to all for the great outpouring of information! :D
Peace
jagfug
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Anyone know if there's a way for us US users to get tests like you guys across the pond are able to get?
I would think somehow, some anonymous lab, perhaps in the name of "harm reduction", might be doing this. There is a very well know College nearby that is know for it's Chemistry, and many great drugs, have been produced there clandestinely over the years.
I guess I'm being overly hopeful, but perhaps someone will come forward with an idea for us over here. Thanks to any suggestions.
Here's what's on it's way for me this week, and should arrive in this order, give or take. (Some may come the same day!) I expect at least one tomorrow.
Evilution 1g
Cape Crusader 2g
BoyMaster 5g
Maxhavelaar 2g
HollandOnline 2g
Powerade 5g (These were all before I saw that Buyers Review/Amphetamine Test Results page) - Hopefully they're not 100% right. - But still, I'll take caffeinated speed, if there's nothing else! :-\
Still this link is interesting. I just hope it's accurate. As accurate as "the honor system" can be I guess.
http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion/
I'll probably stash a "Best" and "Not So Best" stash away in the freezer for a rainy day. . . or a "dry" one. ;)
Thanks to all for the great outpouring of information! :D
Peace
jagfug
wow, sir.
this is a wide range of different batches... stay healthy!
take care
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I had a sample of HollandOnline. No tolerance at all. Both Mrs H and myself bombed 1/4g paste each. Came on after about 30mins in a euphoric horny rush with really good body tweak and complete loss of morals..... ..Up all night :-} ..! Just the buzz we like.
7 days break and BM arrived.in time for weekend To be a bit cautious (for us) only bombed .200g each. 40 mins later fucking huge rush ..but not as much tweak .... Mrs H cleaned everything ..she never cleans..and i spent hours mixing techno..i hate techno...
Now I'm confused...The lower strength Amp has a much stronger physical, horny buzz, while the cleaner stronger Amp has less tweak with a tendency to talk bollocks, make endless techno drum loops and clean stuff..
My experience was very similar. I've tried both Boymasters and Hollandonline's stuff twice now and HO gave me a very euphoric rush both times wheres BM didn't, although his product was noticeably stronger. I tried both products once as a first hit after a week of sobriety so I'd say the difference in experience with both products was not caused by different circumstances.
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The reason for your subjective feeling of a more or less euphoria rush, might be the result of the expectations of your subconscious. There was pretty much only negative talk about BM's stuff for like 2 weeks, while the few, who tested HO's stuff have been very satisfied. Just saying ;D.
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I missed all the negative posts, so it's not down to expectations. Any budding chemists have any idea why the varying effects of the supposed same drug ? HO, what's the secret to your tweak..
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I did read most of the negative posts about BM but they were all about the texture of his product. I had read only postive reviews about the actual effects of his product and the way people described his stuff as the best to party had me expecting total awesomeness. I had not read anything about HO before I tried his stuff but from my experiences with other dutch paste my expectations weren't all that good to begin with. It's still subjective of course but I'd say there truly is a difference.
Any volunteers for blind testing? :)
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Any volunteers for blind testing? :)
Is that you offering free drugs? If so then capital yes
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Isn't it just a case of dextro vs levo ratios?
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I missed all the negative posts, so it's not down to expectations. Any budding chemists have any idea why the varying effects of the supposed same drug ? HO, what's the secret to your tweak..
We might find out in a weak or so. Just dropped off a sample of HO's gear @ the lab today. If a psycho active ingredient that isn't supposed to be there shows up it will show in the results. I'll update when the results come in.
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Didn't HO's speed contain a lot of caffeine? Not all people react badly to that combination, I find it to be a great party combo when I want a bit more physical energy. Try BoyMaster's with a caffeine pill if you feel it lacking in that department :).
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Boymaster is on vacation until Friday the 15th. Glad I got my 5g order in when I did!
Anyway, I haven't received one speed order yet this week! Though they're not late in anyway. I did manage to procure a few adderall to "hold me over". Though I took the last 10mg this afternoon.
I was thinking, with all the great testing going on, and the fact that there's no testing available to me, though I have some irons in the fire.
I thought I'd do some "blind testing" (Thank you VXN for the idea) as soon as my orders start coming it. Most likely I'm going to get 2 or 3 in one day. :-\ Not the way I planned it, but oh well!
So I thought, as I get each order from the 10+ I now have en route. I'll take 2 capsules, 50mg each, from every speed vendor, and place the 2 caps in a small enveloped marked with their name. Then give the lot of them to my friend, who will in turn, change the envelopes, number each one corresponding to the vendors name. He will have the key as to what number I do what day. Each day a different 2 caps.
I can snort and bomb to my hearts content, but that is all I get each day. I will jot down my experiences from each, like a diary, and at the end of the week, my friend can show me what I had each day.
He's up for it. Also it will make the stuff last longer. - I will do the same for him. - So we should have some interesting results.
We'll use very basic human reactions. Like 'bodyload' be it negative or positive. Overall euphoria. Basic things. We'll see how it goes.
Call us the knuckle headed scientists, I know. but at least I'm going to try. However wacky it may seem. :o
There are so many variables to the "experience"testing. - Body ph, what did or didn't eat that day. What's going on in your life. Did you get enough sleep, or are you on 2 days without?
The weather. Good news vs Bad news in your life that day.
But I'll give it a go. Should be fun!
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PSDidn't HO's speed contain a lot of caffeine? Not all people react badly to that combination, I find it to be a great party combo when I want a bit more physical energy. Try BoyMaster's with a caffeine pill if you feel it lacking in that department :).
I couldn't let that go V.Smith w/o commenting. - I did just what you suggest. Though not with BM stuff. With the 10mg Adderall that was struggling to keep me happy tonight. - Well it worked! Wonderfully! - Albeit a strong dose. As some of you may have heard me mention before. A diet program originally popular in the 80's called Herbalife, (still in biz) sells an energy drink mix, with a ton of caffeine, as well as guarana, and some other potentates. I drank that 30 mins ago. (1/2 teaspoon in a juice glass). - results? = ZOOM!
I take back everything bad I ever said about caffeine. If you have very little speed on hand. Especially if it's fairly pure (Adderall-pharmaceutically pure!), caffeine really is a compliment to good amph.
That being said? - Damn I hope that mail-woman (now we got a woman) brings some of those wonderful European postage stamps for my collection! ;D
Peace
jagfug
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so ... now im the second night on powerades speed ;D
not special strong but clear and euphoric, 100% recommended !
best wishes for ya all !
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Cool post jagfug, sounds like a fairly interesting subjective test. Just one small thing:
I take back everything bad I ever said about caffeine. If you have very little speed on hand. Especially if it's fairly pure (Adderall-pharmaceutically pure!), caffeine really is a compliment to good amph.
This really annoys me when people refer to adderall/dexamphetamine as "pure." A 5mg dexamphetamine tablet weighs 200mg, so referring to it as pure is incorrect. I'm not calling you out on it or anything, its just a pet peeve of mine. Binding agents in pharmaceutical pills are essentially the same as non-psychoactive cutting agents. A 5mg dextroamphetamine tablet that weighs 200mg will have the same effect as 12mg of CC's amphet.(80% purity racemic amphetamine)
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Cool post jagfug, sounds like a fairly interesting subjective test. Just one small thing:
I take back everything bad I ever said about caffeine. If you have very little speed on hand. Especially if it's fairly pure (Adderall-pharmaceutically pure!), caffeine really is a compliment to good amph.
This really annoys me when people refer to adderall/dexamphetamine as "pure." A 5mg dexamphetamine tablet weighs 200mg, so referring to it as pure is incorrect. I'm not calling you out on it or anything, its just a pet peeve of mine. Binding agents in pharmaceutical pills are essentially the same as non-psychoactive cutting agents. A 5mg dextroamphetamine tablet that weighs 200mg will have the same effect as 12mg of CC's amphet.(80% purity racemic amphetamine)
No offense taken, I hypothesize to the best of my knowledge, hoping that someone will come along and show me more knowledge on the subject. (Queens NY raised boy here, we have very thick skins ;))
Though it sometimes causes me to be a bit caustic around the more countrified folk I now find myself around.
What I meant as "pure" is that it says you're getting 30mg, you're probably getting 30 mg. Cutting agents included, (sugar, artificial orange flavor, etc)
Here is a list from Wikipedeia you may already be familiar with, which shows the ratio of mixed amphetamine salts. If that's the right term.
1/4 dextroamphetamine saccharate
1/4 dextroamphetamine sulfate, USP
1/4 (racemic) amphetamine aspartate monohydrate
1/4 (racemic) amphetamine sulfate, USP
Either way, I just use the adderall as a "hold me over" until those beautiful envelopes show up!!! ;D
Funny, it started the other way around. - I used the speed bought here, to coast between Rx refills. - After figuring the gas, wear and tear on car, money paid for DR Bills, Rx co-pays, I realized I'm saving a lot more money this way.
Thanks for your expertise on the matter. I'm never one to be offended by learning something. Many of you more educated people on here, have taught me tons of things I would never know otherwise.
The acetone wash for instance. That's one other endeavor I plan on taking for the 1st time over the next week/weekend.
I think with a little more research, and acquesition of some rudimentary lab equipment, I could try my hand at my own batch one day. They sell the P2NP right on here. The rest can be bought locally.
At least I 'think' so! ;) Correct me if I"m wrong ;D
Peace
jagfug
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so ... now im the second night on powerades speed ;D
not special strong but clear and euphoric, 100% recommended !
best wishes for ya all !
If powerade = shit I can't remember his username now...but he is the reincarnation of another vendor that went rouge...well assuming it his him then yes his speed was the most euphoric I have had on here. At first I thought I'd been scammed because I was trying doses of 25-50mg which had no effect then in frustration I bombed 200mg and found myself getting lovely rushes that seemed to intensify as I sang along to Rihanna.
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I think with a little more research, and acquesition of some rudimentary lab equipment, I could try my hand at my own batch one day. They sell the P2NP right on here. The rest can be bought locally.
Nope, you are absolutely right. Careful with the Al amalgam, it can be tricky, if the foil is too thin the reaction will happen very quickly and can crack some glassware.
I suggest grabbing a coffee plunger and removing the glass container from that, most of the time they are just laboratory beakers with a casing.
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I think with a little more research, and acquesition of some rudimentary lab equipment, I could try my hand at my own batch one day. They sell the P2NP right on here. The rest can be bought locally.
Nope, you are absolutely right. Careful with the Al amalgam, it can be tricky, if the foil is too thin the reaction will happen very quickly and can crack some glassware.
I suggest grabbing a coffee plunger and removing the glass container from that, most of the time they are just laboratory beakers with a casing.
Thanks. Yes, I noticed in the roughly translated instructions given in the same listing, they stress the "thicker" Aluminum foil. That's easy, they sell the "heavy duty" at all the super markets.
Let's see if I can handle a "wash" first. ;) - I was thinking about using Everclear so as to alleviate the fear of any H2O being in the Acetone. Besides I loath the smell of acetone. Sometimes certain speed smells like it's still in there. yuk!
(picky speed freak, ain't I ?)
Seriously though, thanks for the help.
-jagfug
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Didn't HO's speed contain a lot of caffeine? Not all people react badly to that combination, I find it to be a great party combo when I want a bit more physical energy. Try BoyMaster's with a caffeine pill if you feel it lacking in that department :).
I had one of his first samples.
I don't drink coffee/tea/soft drinks and had no caffeine withdrawal headaches the day after. (in contrast to other paste vendors)
But it's two months ago now...
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Didn't HO's speed contain a lot of caffeine? Not all people react badly to that combination, I find it to be a great party combo when I want a bit more physical energy. Try BoyMaster's with a caffeine pill if you feel it lacking in that department :).
I had one of his first samples.
I don't drink coffee/tea/soft drinks and had no caffeine withdrawal headaches the day after. (in contrast to other paste vendors)
But it's two months ago now...
Nevertheless, according to the lab results posted by vxn HO's speed contains roughly 40% caffeine.
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On the current subject of caffeine and it's pluses and minuses. I remember back in early 2012, just before I discovered the wonderful alternative to going to a doctor, playacting for 45 minutes, getting a script, driving to a pharmacy. Etc Etc
I saw ads or "listings" for Anhydrous Caffeine. Being sold by the mother fucking pound!
I'm pretty sure that wasn't for caffeine junkies around the world!
Just like P2NP isn't sold for people who like P2NP/
It was only a few months later, that a plethora (love that word) of new speed dealers came on the seen.
My point is, perhaps caffeine in it's purest form. (guessing anhydrous is purest?) maybe I even got anhydrous wrong, but it was like pure caffeine powder, and I remember at the time thinking,
"Who the fuck want's to buy that shit??" - They sell "No-Doz" and "Vivarin" caffeine pills at every Paki-Quickie-Mart, in Everytown, USA!
Now it's all making sense,
I think I know exactly where that powder ended up.
In our speed!
I could be wrong, but I could be right!
To quote Goodfellas;
Tommy DeVito: You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
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Nevertheless, according to the lab results posted by vxn HO's speed contains roughly 40% caffeine.
That's why I said it was some time ago.
No vendor here has a fully constant product.
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"Who the fuck want's to buy that shit??" - They sell "No-Doz" and "Vivarin" caffeine pills at every Paki-Quickie-Mart, in Everytown, USA!
Well, actually, quite a lot of people buy and take caffeine. It's a fairly popular supplement in the bodybuilding community off the top of my head, and I know quite a few people who buy caffeine to take themselves.
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"Who the fuck want's to buy that shit??" - They sell "No-Doz" and "Vivarin" caffeine pills at every Paki-Quickie-Mart, in Everytown, USA!
Well, actually, quite a lot of people buy and take caffeine. It's a fairly popular supplement in the bodybuilding community off the top of my head, and I know quite a few people who buy caffeine to take themselves.
Exactly!
Though to be more precise. - That caffeine base. Or anhydrous caffeine? -I may have the wrong term there. - Anyway, it's better than the low grade shit that comes in over the counter pep pills like No Doz and Vivarin, and coffee itself.
Nice to see how we've come full circle on the caffeine question,.
That's not to say any of us are OK with anything less than pure amphetamine.
It's just that, if we're gonna get FUCKED!
Caffeine is the KY jelly of the process.
I made myself LOL there. ;D
Now, where's my fucking speed!!!!!!!!!
I haven't gotten ONE order yet!!!
Evilution Shipped Feb 2nd
CC - Shipped Feb 4th.
Maxhavelaar Feb 5th
February the 6th is only a week ago, so I realize I'm being over anxious, but shit! I got BM's last order in exactly 6 days!!
BM Feb 7th
HO Feb 8th
I've got some other fun substances to keep me busy, as I'm having a little Christmas morning over here.
But still the one present I want, still hasn't arrived!
Damn! I'll probably get the Heroin before the speed!!
(not that I'll be complaining)
I'll be in touch.
Peace
jagfug
PS Horses are being auctioned off at $20 a horse to be used as meat to feed Communist China. Just thought I'd share that with you. Run with it.
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Anhydrous merely means lack of water. Going back to the acetone thing, what you have after application of epsom salts to acetone is "anhydrous acetone" i.e. acetone without any water in it.
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Nevertheless, according to the lab results posted by vxn HO's speed contains roughly 40% caffeine.
That's why I said it was some time ago.
No vendor here has a fully constant product.
True that, it's possible there was no caffeine two months ago. I didn't really mean to start a discussion about HO in particular though, my point was that caffeine isn't necessarily the devil-crystal it's made out to be by obviously over-sensitive (no offence) users like müslix.
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Caffeine is the KY jelly of the process.
Made me laugh hard, and yeah its the thruth.
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Got my BM's order.
I don't know when package arrived, because I wasn't home and I don't want to ask parent about it. But it was few days to central Europe.
I got yellowish waxy stuff. But I won't complain about that, because I ordered in discount week and that will compensate for the "loss".
Package wasn't really anything special .. probably because EU - EU shipping but it was of course vacuum sealed.
Weight was spot on, maybe a little over.
I just snorted around 20mg and licked the baggie and I'm feeling amazing. Best speed I ever tried. I'm feeling very focus, my mind is expanding, I'm feeling need to socialize.
Hopefully in the future BM will resolve waxy stuff (freebase) issue or properly wash his product.
Will definitely order again.
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Well I finally got my first US Customs Seizure letter.
I received Evilution - no problem, overweight, and nice buzz
Then Holland Online I'd say about the same if not slightly stronger than Evilution.
Thanks SS and the rest for pointing out (once again) my unnecessary "over-explanation" of what the sized parcel looked like. If (God forbid) there is a next time please PM me right away!-
I'm on top of it now. There's no repercussions. It just states, something like "under code 123 etc.. we are allowed to seize it, You will not get it back etc. Something about "random testing" Like it was pulled out of a hat or something,
Thanks for pointing out what should have been obvious to me. (If I ever do anything that stupid again, PLEASE any of you PM me right away!)
The thread went on to the next page so fast, I had forgotten I even posted that. I feel so foolish, though I'll settle for grateful. For you guys, and the fact that nothing further will come of it, from what I read.
jagfug
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@jagfug:
Do you think they got lucky or they became suspicious of immense flow of international packages?
You are from US right?
Snorted maybe another 10mg of BM's stuff and I'm feeling great. No body load. Maybe I'm sweating a little and grinding my teeth (I preloaded with magnesium).
I'm not feeling especially horny but I'm having too many dirty thoughts about my GF.
Also music makes me happy and is very enjoyable.
Really the only downfall of BM's speed is waxy texture, because is really hard to scrape off the surface where I chopped it and is sticking everywhere.
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Imho, I think you shouldn't write about package or letter customization here.
Good lord, man... get your fucking quote of his post out of there -- he can edit his original post and remove the information. He can't edit your quote of it -- meaning you've just done exactly what he did, only worse.
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ehh you're right, removed it.
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ehh you're right, removed it.
We all make mistakes; no big deal. I agree that it's a little bit too informative a post, for what it's worth...
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jagfug, with respect, i don't believe you can get around the fact that the listing said "pure 96.7% amp sulphate" and that it was not. If you're going to sell something as pure , it had better be pure.
PS Are we talking about a specific vendor? In reading this back, I just realized you didn't mention one. I put in this edit to ask you. Who is it you're talking about??
I had a few messages previously talking about BM's waxy stuff. His ad said "96.7% pure amphetamine sulphate" (and still does) --- that is, the salts, not a mix of salt and freebase. I don't know if the freebase is causing me issues, or if there is something else in there (I still haven't washed it.. I have been too busy and haven't had time to find proper glassware or canning jars to make anhydrous acetone and filter out the good salts), but I can't insufflate it until it's washed. Although, I did buy epsom salts ($4) and acetone ($7.50 for a quart). Just sucks to have to spend extra money. I've used 150-200 mg of the waxy stuff orally over the last couple of weeks and have noticed that if I take kratom (another thing I like) at the same time, it can make me feel panicky for a short while in the beginning 30-45 minutes, but that doesn't happen if I just wait half an hour to an hour after taking the amp before taking the kratom -- small amounts of both btw, compared to most people.
BM still hasn't read my messages on SR, but I just read the post that said he'd be back on the 15th. I don't envy his inbox and all of these forum pages to read, but I still hope I can get some restitution for the extra materials I had to buy, the time, and the expected loss of 20-25% of claimed pure product through washing. I'm going to go buy some SR weed now!
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Well I got my 5g order from BM today, and it has improved. At first it looked like a flat piece of wax.Then I chopped it up, and it chopped up like crunchy corn flakes, then waited another hour, and I was able to chop it into a fine white powder. So the consistency has improved, immensely, and the strength is better than ever!
Let's hope it's a sign of things to come.
I also received Holland Online 's speed, and that was decent for the price. Dried quickly to a nice powder, and was easy on the nose. (still having trouble breaking that habit).
Evilution came as well, seemed better than last time. No lavender hue this time either, along with more a more powdery consistency.
So 3 good ones in a row.
Oh well, if I were keeping score, I'd have an almost 99% rate.
Try to think "STEALTHY" people !! - I've shared this before, but it's worth repeating. Mainly for shipments to the US. Americans LOVE their holidays. Like Valentines, and now that's past, we'll be seeing many shades of GREEN envelopes in honor of St Patricks Day. - Why not make the envelopes look like their from Aunt Greta, and they're just harmless little greeting cards??? I would think less suspicion would be drawn to brightly decorated envelopes either for Valentines (too late now) St Patricks Day, then you have all the Easter colored envelopes. Pastels, with Egg or Bunny stickers on them.
I don't know how it's done over in Holland, but over here, people go nuts with these holiday mailings.
I think the last time I suggested this, on another thread, some genius said, "How is a brightly colored envelope stealthy?" - Well we are dealing with drug addicts here people.
Apparently they've never been privy to the theory of "Hiding in plain sight".
Damn, I need some sleeeeeeppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peace
jagfug
PS Edit/Update - Got my very 1st CC order today (was one of the last ones under the wire)
After perusing it and smelling it, I was surprised how similar it was to BM's. Waxy texture, though not as extreme as BM's 1st 2013 batch.
CC's has almost as strong a burn, though about 10% less. - Euphoria and overall strength are just a tad over BM's. So it was a bit of an anticlimactic experience, having heard all these great things about CC. As far as I'm concerned, those two are tied for 1st place. That's my vote.
Especially now that the 5g BM batch I got two days ago, is super fine powder. I did nothing more than chop it with the blade out of a utility knife. Let it sit for an hour or so, and chop, chop, chop, I went again. Within 4 hours of very little work, I had powder. Whereas CC's has sat out on a plate for the same amount of time, and still is sticky. Not super sticky, but I had visions of this super crystalline powder, so fine that some advised I might want to just drink it in water. The BM order I just got has more of a crystalline consistency, which really surprised me!
In any event. No matter how you slice it. They are both excellent amphetamine. Hands down.
I guess I finally got my loveletter! :'(
Could have been worse. A LOT worse! - That could've been all the money I had to spend on speed this month. I got plenty of backup, as well as another gram sent out free by a 'smart' new vendor!
So I realize how lucky I am. Out of over 10 orders, and close to 25 grams bought since Feb 1st. That 2g order was the only problem. Not a bad month at all. :D
So is there anything new under the sun?
PPS - All orders were overweight! Boymasters latest 'drier" version, was about .17 over upon opening, and after drying, came to 14.97!
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Thanks to PineappleLove (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108950) the Cocaine test results are also incorporated in the page. So anyone with a coca interest can educate themselves. I'll check if I can buy more products for testing the coming weeks. To bad I can only drop one of at time. :(
http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion/
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Thanks to PineappleLove (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108950) the Cocaine test results are also incorporated in the page. So anyone with a coca interest can educate themselves. I'll check if I can buy more products for testing the coming weeks. To bad I can only drop one of at time. :(
http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion/
Just looked at the site, very nice! :D
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and that was decent for the price.
Prices on SR are insane. One gram of quality PEP (about 60-70% freebase, i.e. barely cut) shouldn't cost more than between EUR 7~10. Problem is I don't know the "street" dealers and I'm not really into the drug game. Sucks to be dependent of SR with these prices and overall shitty quality...
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Especially now that the 5g BM batch I got two days ago, is super fine powder. I did nothing more than chop it with the blade out of a utility knife. Let it sit for an hour or so, and chop, chop, chop, I went again. Within 4 hours of very little work, I had powder. Whereas CC's has sat out on a plate for the same amount of time, and still is sticky. Not super sticky, but I had visions of this super crystalline powder, so fine that some advised I might want to just drink it in water. The BM order I just got has more of a crystalline consistency, which really surprised me!
In any event. No matter how you slice it. They are both excellent amphetamine. Hands down.
... are you seriously trying to say that it took you FOUR HOURS to get the powder you want? That's absurd...! That's completely unacceptable. Maybe I'm mistaking what you mean by "fine powder," or something.
I can't speak for everyone, but I've always found BoyMaster's speed to be extremely potent. I mean really surprisingly so. I've also found it to be unpleasant. It makes me jittery, nervous, confused, and basically just not know what the fuck to do. I've had to deal with a couple of unexpected crises while on it (this was a few months ago, I'm referring to his first batch), and I discovered that I was all thumbs whenever I took his speed. Usually amphetamines make me calm, logical, and able to see exactly what I need to do in a situation.
BoyMaster's product left me feeling like I was standing there in a fog going "uh, um, uh, but... no, I... what do I do?!" That's the absolute opposite of what I take amphetamines for. I don't take them for the feeling at all (I get no euphoria or mood lift with my tolerance). I take them because they let me focus my mind like a fucking laser beam. CC's product improves my functioning. BoyMaster's actually dulls my mind -- I don't much care what it feels like, to be honest with you. Maybe that explains your observations.
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and that was decent for the price.
Prices on SR are insane. One gram of quality PEP (about 60-70% freebase, i.e. barely cut) shouldn't cost more than between EUR 7~10. Problem is I don't know the "street" dealers and I'm not really into the drug game. Sucks to be dependent of SR with these prices and overall shitty quality...
I see it similar, BUT nobody forces you to buy. (and if you consume every day, you should think about a break)
BM for example delivered two times waxy stuff to me without apology or compensation.
A third order won't happen and i will stick to CC now.
Vendors won't change their policy, if everyone is still buying for bad conditions.
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Sadly there seem to be only two vendors who sell a good product atm. Ordered from both 3 weeks ago, CCs didn´t make it up to now. Hope it comes through yet again, would be a pity if not.
Got BMs waxy stuff, but compared with the "speed" that´s around where I live, it`s still really nice and I think I´ll order again. Can´t take all these cut dutch paste rubbish, I hate caffeine, gives me a horrible racing heart like nothing else.
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For the record, the samples I sent out were all are more than .25g and less than .40g
They were a bit random as I was in a hurry to package. Also, half the samples are dry powder, cuz I let the bags sit a day before vacuum sealing them, and the other half are paste samples, cuz I vacuum sealed immediately. Overall I am very unhappy with my vacuum sealing techniques for these samples and plan to get a better method for increased stealth. I expect them all to make it to their destinations though, or I would not have sent any, I just know I can do better than that. I would never send something that I thought would get caught. Ruining someone's drop off address would defeat the purpose of me giving out free samples for feedback >.>;
You may find this post useful: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0
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@jagfug:
Do you think they got lucky or they became suspicious of immense flow of international packages?
You are from US right?
Snorted maybe another 10mg of BM's stuff and I'm feeling great. No body load. Maybe I'm sweating a little and grinding my teeth (I preloaded with magnesium).
I'm not feeling especially horny but I'm having too many dirty thoughts about my GF.
Also music makes me happy and is very enjoyable.
Really the only downfall of BM's speed is waxy texture, because is really hard to scrape off the surface where I chopped it and is sticking everywhere.
I have to say (without saying it), the postmarked city is suspicious. Also the notice was from a port in another part of my country, though I've never seen one before, I watched the tracking of parcels from ebay and whatnot. - They all seem to come in to JFK Airport first. So who knows? - Had I gotten that one it would've been 3 in one day. Though who's to say what's unusual?
When I first started here last April, it was small potatoes. (adderall), and I was waiting everyday, waxing my car, or vacuuming it out. The postman walked over to me and said, "you got one to sign for" with a stunned face I "tried" to act normal. - Turns out it was from a CD Company in Japan, I'd forgotten I pre-ordered a Todd Rundgern Album, that was the first true remaster. I started laughing nervously. So did the postman. LoL. After I got inside the house, I found an unsuspecting letter/parcel which had the adderall in it. ;D
On your other topic, BM vs CC. I was surprised when I finally got CC's. It has a slight waxiness to it. If you chop it up and let the air evaporate the leftover solvent, it then becomes powdery. In stark contrast, I got 5g from BM the day before, and I think I already wrote on here about it, but it was very crunchy, so he tried something different. I chopped it for a few minutes then jammed out with a friend, some old blues standards. IT wasn't like I was "working on it" all that time. I had forgotten about it. - We had EV + HO sitting by the baseboard heat to evaporate the moisture, BM's just sat on a little tray out of the way. It wasn't until later, we noticed it looked drier, and gave it another few mins of chopping, and it fluffed up nicely! They way I prefer it anyway. Also the nose irritation has all but gone away. Also doing less at a time. ;)
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Needin´ some info, guys, therefore I just got some short questions concerning your oppinions:
Can anyone please tell me some facts about POWERADE´s actual offered batch of amph?
Has anyone tried it so far? Are you satisfied with it?
What about cutting-substances within f.e. caffeine and the consistency?
Thanks for info in advance.
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Jagbug, brother... I know we have our differences, but I just want to make absolutely certain you understand that you have now let leak probably about twice the amount of information that would be required to find you -- even if an unlicensed average citizen who hired a mediocre private detective was the one looking, I'll bet.
You do remember that despite the fact that we all do this every single day here... this is highly illegal. I mean you're not losing sight of that, right bro? Because they'll make an example of you with a smile on their faces while they do it if you put yourself right next to the fucking cell, if you know what I mean. You give out SO much personal info, man. I mean it's your call and everything, but... it's just not necessary, brother.
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PS Edit/Update - Got my very 1st CC order today (was one of the last ones under the wire)
After perusing it and smelling it, I was surprised how similar it was to BM's. Waxy texture, though not as extreme as BM's 1st 2013 batch.
CC's has almost as strong a burn, though about 10% less. - Euphoria and overall strength are just a tad over BM's. So it was a bit of an anticlimactic experience, having heard all these great things about CC. As far as I'm concerned, those two are tied for 1st place. That's my vote.
It shouldn't be surprising given that both vendors have near pure amphetamine. They likely use the same tek, in which case, given that both have very similar levels of purity, the texture would also be very similar.
@SS: Your reaction to BM's amph seems very odd to me. Amphetamine is amphetamine. Given that no other psychoactive substances are ingested, there really shouldn't be any difference.
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Needin´ some info, guys, therefore I just got some short questions concerning your oppinions:
Can anyone please tell me some facts about POWERADE´s actual offered batch of amph?
Has anyone tried it so far? Are you satisfied with it?
What about cutting-substances within f.e. caffeine and the consistency?
Thanks for info in advance.
The last laboratory test on 1g Amphetamine Paste (Speed) >50% purity of PowerAde November 2012 batch tested 23.3% amphetamine and 35% Caffeine.
Have a look:
http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion/
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thanks for that information, but sad to hear that,
and - with this result, also the first point @ his vendor-page isn´t true, as he writes
Here is a short description of the service I offer :
1. Truthful product description because there is nothing worse than not getting what you have expected.
disappointing... :-[
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date shipped: February 1, 2013, 7:49 am UTC
Still waiting for the letter from CC.
I'm starting to get impatient. :(
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date shipped: February 1, 2013, 7:49 am UTC
Still waiting for the letter from CC.
I'm starting to get impatient. :(
same here, shipped 28.1
had a little chat wit CC today who told me not to worry, it´s not unusual and he´s quite sure it will arrive
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How long does it usually take CC to restock, weeks or months? I was very satisfied with my first CC transaction and am eager to do business again.
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As stated before my German orders always take long to arrive. They almost never arrive within the 17 days and have to be taken into resolution so that the due date can be extended so there's nothing to worry about..
I initially said that the new batch will be released towards the end of this month but never took into account that we are in such a short month so i will need an extra week before releasing. It will be released on the 11 March. The main focus of this batch and future batches will be on bigger quantities. I will probably still have 2 gram listings for those people that want to sample my product but i will be doing away with the 1 gram listings as hardly anybody purchased them anyway and it is such a waste to order just 1 gram all the way from SA..
Best regards
CC
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I initially said that the new batch will be released towards the end of this month but never took into account that we are in such a short month so i will need an extra week before releasing. It will be released on the 11 March. The main focus of this batch and future batches will be on bigger quantities.
Great :D
Can't wait for the new batch, already have numerous friends waiting anxiously for it to be released 8)
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I just researched a little...
First order was in January.
Date shipped: January 14 Monday
Arrived: February 01 Friday
...18 days
The current waiting (19 days) felt instantly so much longer without research of the first delivery time.
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My order from CC arrived today, to EU. It was marked as shipped on Feb 1st, arrived Feb 20th. Took three days longer than it usually does:)
Never got amph this yellow from CC. Will probably have a taste tomorrow. I'm curious if I feel any difference from BM (I have no problem with his waxy stuff, works nice for me).
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thanks for that information, but sad to hear that,
and - with this result, also the first point @ his vendor-page isn´t true, as he writes
Here is a short description of the service I offer :
1. Truthful product description because there is nothing worse than not getting what you have expected.
disappointing... :-[
Yep but to put things more in perspective, it's probably a bit more complex than that because many vendors advertise with higher purities than they actually sell. Not an excuse I agree but that's just the way it is and has been for a long time.
Vendors should realize that a damaged reputation can be very hard to fully recover from, once the damage is done e.g. by selling less quality stuff as advertised.
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It's amazing how the mail works. My CC order, was shipped Feb 4th and arrived Feb 16th. That's 12 days from Capetown to NY! There's vendors in Europe, that take 2 weeks on average. Some almost 3!
Either they're not "in transit" when they're marked as such. Or it's just some lousy postal services in certain countries. I even have domestic US to US orders take over a week! That's inexcusable, and it's almost always the vendor put's it in the mail 3-4 days after I place the order, and they ship ordinary first class!.
Anyway, CC's amph definitely broke my BM tolerance, which was getting bad. I've supplemented in between doses with the lower quality stuff, and save the dose of CC or BM for when I really want that euphoria.
I just wish it didn't make my prostate swell so much that I can't pee!!! :( - Any other guys have that happen? - It's my one sure-fire test for amphetamine potency. :-\
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Yep but to put things more in perspective, it's probably a bit more complex than that just because many vendors advertise with higher purities than they actually sell. Not an excuse I agree but it's just the way it is for a long time here.
Vendors should realize that a damaged reputation can be very hard to fully recover from, once the damage is done e.g. by selling less quality stuff as advertised.
Yes, the current equilibrium of SR tends to be to the side of the seller. Things like FE, not accepting orders from newbs, distorted quality claims and a general attitude of "go buy elsewhere if you do not like it" of some sellers aren't really fertile events of honest business. Sellers should be held responsible for their products and should be given the opportunity of correcting mishaps, not the other way around. Sellers as well as buyers should mutually benefit from this business. I hope the list has impact on the general quality of the products and services of sellers now and in the future.
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Sellers as well as buyers should mutually benefit from this business. I hope the list has impact on the general quality of the products and services of sellers now and in the future.
Gladly there are good sellers which do business honestly in the amph section.
I just wish it didn't make my prostate swell so much that I can't pee!!! :( - Any other guys have that happen? - It's my one sure-fire test for amphetamine potency. :-\
Yes that can be damn annoying, as far as I know with amphetamine it's not caused by a swollen prostate but by vasoconstriction of smooth muscle of the bladder and blood vessel walls in that area so in that respect it's more of a bladder issue.
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No one liked my prostate story I guess :'(
The sad part is, it's 100% true. Though my age plays a factor, it's a direct result of amphetamine's vasoconstrictor effect. - Same reason you may get sore muscles, esp in upper back.
As far as Powerade goes. I was able to do a few lines a little while ago. My friend ordered some, and wanted to know what I thought. It's pretty damn good speed. I was surprised too, after doing some of CC"s gear, and practically living on BM's gear for the past 10 days. -
That list might be a good guide, but could it be biased? It seems they really knock Powerade, yet I always liked his speed. Granted it's not Boymaster or CapeCrusader level, but it's better than street speed.
For the price, the quality is above average. Some of you may recall back in Dec when CC and BM were on hiatus, PE was #1!
I have no reason to stick up for PE, it just seems like there's too many people too fast to put him down, and then ultimately they refer to the LIST. - Is there anyway to corroborate that list?
No, of course not. It's basically the "honor system". - It seems accurate on many listings, but I remember an old saying from my grandmother. "Don't believe everything you hear, and only half of what you see!"
It's a big world, with a long beautiful road running through it. There's room for everybody. As far as speed vendors go? There's room for all of you. "Be fruitful and multiply" ;D
If I like how it makes me feel, that's all I need to know. - We went over this caffeine cut thing a few pages back. I believe I arrived at this conclusion.
If your going to get cut in your speed, caffeine isn't the worst thing in the world. Be glad we're not coke heads! We'd have to worry about Levimasole, which has been found in over 80% of seizures at ports last year alone!
So basically Caffeine is the K-Y Jelly of speed. If they're gonna fuck you, at least they got some lube.
OK, time for me to take a break.
Peace
jagfug
PS Thanks Cleveland, I just saw what you posted while I was typing. I'd much rather hear it's not the prostate.. My Uncle died of prostate cancer at 57. So I gotta keep an eye on that. - Tomatoes and lots of Leafy Greens. Pretty much all I can eat lately anyway. :P
PPS. Actually I'm forcing myself to eat this morning. Spinach and Feta Cheese Omelet!
See yas!
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I have no reason to stick up for PE, it just seems like there's too many people too fast to put him down, and then ultimately they refer to the LIST. - Is there anyway to corroborate that list?
Nobody really puts him down. Nobody shouldn't trust blindfolded on the list. It is just a directive which should become more reliable in the future when more tests by many different buyers are appended. But that all depends on how many people get their stuff tested. I for one do not want to ingest any contamination's, so the information presented is just for education purposes. Also highest purity does not dictate if it is an honest product. :) It is also the reason why I am a bit hesitated to include a $/gram column. That would make the vendor selection surely more biased and is not the main purpose of the list.
But by all means, keep testing if you have the possibility! We should think up some way to keep the tests being done. Also for the sake of vendor product distribution. Unfortunately I am not financially capable of buying every single product offering on the road. I try to do my best, but without help of others the list won't get updated that often as I wish to. This is a mass effort, that's why I have posted this thread. http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119974
If your going to get cut in your speed, caffeine isn't the worst thing in the world. Be glad we're not coke heads! We'd have to worry about Levimasole, which has been found in over 80% of seizures at ports last year alone!
Caffeine is not the worst but it is surely not innocent since it is a psychoactive stimulant. If you want to volumize your product just do not use active substances. I find caffeine rather unpleasant, that's why I buy amphetamine to begin with. Of course many vendors do not know exactly what they are selling so they are not directly responsible for any cuts. That doesn't really matter if it is a honest product for honest money.
I would like to wish you a fast recovery with your prostate. (Kind of funny, I don't even know how to wish someone a fast recovery/improvement/progress in correct English. Break a leg or something? :D)
Take care! ;)
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I reviewed Bungees' speed on his Rumour mill thread. Here it is again!
Bungee's Wet Speed Paste
Product: 6 Packaging:9 Service 10
This is my first time with speed paste, let alone illict plain amphetamine (enough experience with methy-Amph). I didn't weigh the bag before drying the paste, but dry the weight was 500mg spot on, plus paste still clinging to the original baggie.
The smell was strong before drying, and oddly pleasant afterward- this may be due to the fact that I let it dry on top of an essential oil salt lamp : D
I've read plenty of bad things about illicit speed paste- so this stuff surpassed my expectations! Smooth 50mg up the nose, followed by 50 an hour later. I'm happily typing this interview right now- I just stopped and realized how buzzed I really am! Having been Rxed amphetamine for years, I would hazard a guess that this stuff is 40%-50% speed, with some pleasant cut. not sure what caffeine taste like snorted, so I can't comment on that. Caffeine and me don't get along too well, so I think I'd be painfully aware if there was a significant amount of caffeine in the powder.
I prefer this stuff to illicit Meth! easier to manage, and not nearly as neurotoxic. I would buy this product again if the price was right (it may be right now, but I'm not shopping for it currently). Again, very happy to have waited 12 days to receive cocaine and speed from Bungee. Team Bungee FTW!!! Thanks guys
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I just wish it didn't make my prostate swell so much that I can't pee!!! :( - Any other guys have that happen? - It's my one sure-fire test for amphetamine potency. :-\
I know that shit.. and in combination with my light form of paruresis it can really ruin a party for me. Usually I have only a problem with paruresis when I am between 2 guys in the pissing line and even then it usually works - just takes a little longer. But I had it two times on amph now that I couldn't piss for hours at all and left the party because of that..
Read about this technique recently, but haven't tested yet - maybe it works for people without paruresis as well: http://www.paruresis.org/FAQ/faq_page_23.htm
EDIT: Uhh 100 posts, got to give out some karma for the last 10 months.
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Interesting. I never even considered such a phobia. The fucking dictionary I checked doesn't even have the word, but good old Wikipedia did, hah...
Agree about the prostate thing, Jagfug. Frankly it can become a serious issue for me. It takes me 5 or 10 minutes to finish sometimes. Not to get too graphic or anything, but it's very painful and I can't maintain a stream quite often. It's apparently not an uncommon effect of amphetamines. It's also worth noting that the last I knew, current research into prostate cancer seems to be suggesting that inflammation of the prostate increases your risk of cancer.
(that's what amphetamines can often cause, inflammation, which causes the prostate to swell around the urethra and obstructs the flow of urine)
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Took me 15 years to figure out I got it, its mainly before I enter a public WC I automatically think:"hopefully there is a free place in the corner..", if not, it takes some time to relax, before I can. I think I even know what has caused it.
It is actually pretty common. ~1 million guys are supposed to have it in Germany, which is like 1 out 50 guys.
It can be really bad, I read in the forums about guys and girls who never used a public WC successfully or people who couldn't piss for 48 hours :o.
There is a phobia for pretty much everything..
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Since there is no comment the last pages,
any actual news or informations to afterhours rosa paste?
thanks.
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Moving along the thread here, I've been meaning to tell you guys about this one all day!!!!
"Best Dutch Drugs"
New vendor you MUST check out! - I already have my order in for a "test sample" gra,. at a temporarily reduced price (everybody get's one)
Claims to be 80%, and profile page is one of the best I've ever seen.
So come on my fellow skeptics!
Tell 'em jagfug sent you!
Seriously, I know anybody can "claim" anything. I just have a good feeling about this one.
I'm talking to you Stoney1980, SelfSoverignty , Knomo, Tempo, Cleaveland ,6DEE3CADA, Speedie, Valentinesmith,italosvevo, hellhazz, vxn,remoulade,fractalglobal, commodore64 and the rest of you!
(sorry if I left anyone out) - or misspelled your names, speaking of which
Where has Jamaroquai been? - I'm sure I'm murdering the spelling there, but hasn't it been a few weeks???
Anyway go have a look. I'm cooking dinner for my kids. I'll be off and on.
Anyway check out this Vendors page!! Looks very promising.
Imagine somebody giving BM+CC a run for their money? Imagine BETTER SPEED ???
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/1e693bb8b3
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thats sound nice jagfug'd!
they have even quite good prices for bulk. so i'm thinking again of afterhour who advertises for half the price - can there be any good in it for that price?
his weed is half price then others as well, but okay in quality. i wonder how his speed does. tried it jagfug'd?
thanks! =)
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thats sound nice jagfug'd!
they have even quite good prices for bulk. so i'm thinking again of afterhour who advertises for half the price - can there be any good in it for that price?
his weed is half price then others as well, but okay in quality. i wonder how his speed does. tried it jagfug'd?
thanks! =)
No I haven't, though just like you, I asked on here if anyone had any experience with AfterHour, and got no responses. I would've taken a shot at them this month, but there were many good speed dealers that are trusted and tried. If you want the best speed available right now, go straight to Boymaster. - You may have heard some whining about the consistency a few batches ago, but my latest one, (just last week) was awesome. So strong I even have some left!! - Well it was 5 grams! ;D
Good Luck~!
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I'm... really fucking paranoid, frankly. I know I take measures that are a little much for most people, but let me tell you, my paranoia actually saved me from jail one day. Cut and dry. You know what I decided that day? I'm a fucking genius, not a psycho, and anyone who doesn't agree can just go to prison and disagree with me all they want ;D
I don't order from anybody who doesn't impress me. People impress me by being somebody who doesn't sound like they're lying and wants me to stay free so I can keep buying from them. When that happens, you can be sure... I'll test 'em out. But not right now, thank you.
Addendum: I have turned down several grams worth of free samples in my time here at SR. I won't even take it when it's literally free -- not unless somebody else gives you their address and I see them still around a month later.
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I've actually got enough spare coins for that 1g sample... I'm very tempted but SelfSovereignty's words have sketched me out a little, maybe it's the weed, who knows. Still got HO's and AA's stuff as well, but if it really is 80% it would be very nice to have lying around. I'll sleep on it and see if it's still tempting in the morning!
EDIT: The sample was still tempting this morning so I've placed an order. I'll update when it lands! Thanks for the heads up, jagfug!
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Moving along the thread here, I've been meaning to tell you guys about this one all day!!!!
"Best Dutch Drugs"
Claims to be 80%, and profile page is one of the best I've ever seen.
I'm talking to you Stoney1980, SelfSoverignty , Knomo, Tempo, Cleaveland ,6DEE3CADA, Speedie, Valentinesmith,italosvevo, hellhazz, vxn,remoulade,fractalglobal, commodore64 and the rest of you!
(sorry if I left anyone out) - or misspelled your names, speaking of which
Where has Jamaroquai been? - I'm sure I'm murdering the spelling there, but hasn't it been a few weeks???
Thanks for the advise, though 80% is generally not a number you will get back as a lab test result in nl so that's kind of odd. After reading some good things about HollandOnline's quality I have ordered 2 grams of the speed which should arrive today. My tolerance is very low atm so I'm looking forward to it, usually good stuff hits my brain like a freight train now.
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Review of Foxcave aka Panacea Amphetamine paste
Ordered a gram plus received a double sample effectively 1.6g
Yep good news. Can't believe it got here in 8 days
Stealth 9/10 this vendor obviously made the time effort to ensure delivery
Smells like speed fluffs upon chopping
Did four or five lines bout point seven done and dusted last night
Obviously got me high, struggled thru the days work
6/10 Provided you snort enough of it you will get high but don't expect it to last very long and do expect to feel kinda methy for days afterwards.
Would Recommend this vendor would buy again and trip centrifuge on their specialty fungus
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any info on AfterHour's stuff?
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Moving along the thread here, I've been meaning to tell you guys about this one all day!!!!
"Best Dutch Drugs"
Claims to be 80%, and profile page is one of the best I've ever seen.
I'm talking to you Stoney1980, SelfSoverignty , Knomo, Tempo, Cleaveland ,6DEE3CADA, Speedie, Valentinesmith,italosvevo, hellhazz, vxn,remoulade,fractalglobal, commodore64 and the rest of you!
(sorry if I left anyone out) - or misspelled your names, speaking of which
Where has Jamaroquai been? - I'm sure I'm murdering the spelling there, but hasn't it been a few weeks???
Thanks for the advise, though 80% is generally not a number you will get back as a lab test result in nl so that's kind of odd. After reading some good things about HollandOnline's quality I have ordered 2 grams of the speed which should arrive today. My tolerance is very low atm so I'm looking forward to it, usually good stuff hits my brain like a freight train now.
I thought that the maximum purity of normal amphetamine in powder form was about 73%.
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profile page is one of the best I've ever seen.
yeah, that's great fuckin profile page 8)
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I thought that the maximum purity of normal amphetamine in powder form was about 73%.
It depends on which substance you are talking about. Sulphate, hydrochloride (or freebase) for example. Drugs which are sulphate (SO4) or hydrochloride (HCL) are both salts. They are ionic compounds which means that the amphetamine is ionically bonded to either a chloride or a sulphate ion. The bonding of ion depends on the characteristics of the compound which the producer wants to achieve.
Amphetamine hydrochloride is rarely produced since it is more unstable and more hygroscopic (naturally absorbs water) than the sulphate form. The bioavailability (solubility, absorption, duration) and potency of HCL is slightly higher if I remember correctly. They are just different salts of the same active drug with their own chemical and biological profiles that underlie differences in their clinical efficacy and safety.
The amphetamine part in the SO4 salt is ~73.4% maximum, the amphetamine part in the HCL salt is ~78.8% maximum. Freebase can be close to 100%, but acquires needles and stuff since the absorption and bioavailability by insufflation or ingesting is very low.
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About Best Dutch Drugs. Hist profile page is almost to perfect. I cannot even (quickly) recognize the well known grammatical errors for non-native English speaking persons. Probably a highly educated person, or ... I do not want to scare anyone, but if I lived in a less drugs tolerant country, I would not buy until the sky clears. Just a gut feeling though.
any info on AfterHour's stuff?
To my knowledge there are no known labtests available. You can skim this page for user experiences. CTRL-F and type in keyword.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=printpage;topic=4750.0
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Please disregard, accidental double post.
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Advise all to set an alarm on their phone for 11/03/2013.
CC is back!
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Advise all to set an alarm on their phone for 11/03/2013.
CC is back!
Got me again with that backwards date thing you Europeans do. I just yelled at the screen "NOVEMBER THIRD????""- Then I said., "Ohhh yeaaahhh" :-[ LoL
I say backwards jokingly. It's like saying you drive on the "wrong" side of the road.
Thanks for passing that info along btw. I am rationing the last of CC's stuff right now.
@6DEE3CADA - I didn't see a repeat post. Anyway, thanks for sharing your knowledge of chemistry, with the rest of the group. Were/are you in the chemistry field? Or is it just something that Northern European's are taught from a young age? - I'm amazed at some of the stuff you guys come out with.. Sometimes it's all Greek to me, but I can read between the lines, and there's always google for looking up am unfamiliar term or word.
Thanks for that. I've said it before, but it's worth repeating. I've learned more about chemistry on this thread alone, than anywhere else!
As far as Best Dutch Drugs goes, when you say "wait till the sky clears" do you mean after a few weeks of orders coming in and some decent feedback and/or tests, or is there something else going on there?
I put in for the 1 gram. I figured for $11. 66. (free shipping), that was an acceptable risk. That's like 9 EUR if I'm not mistaken.
Anyway, time will tell
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I'm also expecting one from a new Canadian Vendor "FoxCave". That was free. - Finally a speed Vendor in North America! - Really if every vendor in Europe, could do it like BM does, I'd have no qualms about it. He has top shelf speed, and can get it to the US in 7 days! (give or take).
Holland Onlines stuff was good, just had a little too much fumes smell to it.
Is that from a stage of the process where they made a mistake? Because you can leave it out overnight, and it reduces it a little, but not enough. Very tough on the nose. I try to take it orally as much as possible, but I still like the rush of snorting.
Also, is it bad, as in super unhealthy, to smoke speed? - My friend and I smoke H once in a while, and the other night we put a little dab of speed on the foil with the H, and got quite a nice high.
Tasted like burnt hair, but it was interesting. I just wondered if it turned into some poisonous chemical when burned.
Thanks again!
jagfiug
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How much of BM's waxy stuff did you guys dose?
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How much of BM's waxy stuff did you guys dose?
I assume you meant me, with the speed+H on the foil?
I make a little bowl-like a pipe- out of foil so there's a "well" and you're not chasing the dragon everywhere. Then just take a straw, like from a McDonalds drink,- hold it in your mouth, and the other end just above the "bowl" and hit it with the lighter.
I'd say we put like .06 speed in with .10 H. - I just use my favorite knife. A very cool Stiletto switchblade.
We got a good 3 hits each, and we definitely felt the speed. Helps to keep you from "nodding". Never understood that whole desire to nod thing. -
It was a nice clean head! My friend was against it, but tried it. He was afraid to do it again.
BTW This was the BM batch I got last Saturday, and it only looked waxy before I opened it. Then I chopped it up, and left it out to dry.
We came back about 4 hours later, and I chopped it again, only now it was "crunchy"! - So I kept at it for another 5-10 minutes. Just got more and more powder. Actually too powdery! It was going straight
into my lungs! I had to back off on the "vacuum nose" a little. LoL - "Be careful what you pray for" ::)
Now I'm just waiting for 6DEE3CADA to report back that it turns into cyanide or something! :o
I won't try it again till I hear the verdict! Promise~! ;)
Peace
jagfug
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Where has Jamaroquai been? - I'm sure I'm murdering the spelling there, but hasn't it been a few weeks???
Right here buddy!!
Reporting back for duty after a work accident that had me hospitalized for a while. Nothing life threatening or drug related but I've gone through a painful time the past 2 weeks or so, but recovery goes well.
Back home again and a big fat €-check on it's way from my company's insurance for the damage/suffering done. So now I know what to do if I ever desperately need money for some reason lmao.
Cheers!
Sham
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@jagfug
I am just technologically inclined and have a somewhat unhealthy interest in things at the less accepted side of the scale. ;) I have no personal experiences on smoking. Amphetamine freebase is probably smokable. The difference between boilingpoint and combustionpoint of amphetaminesulfate is quite small, which makes it hard to vaporise correctly. amphetaminesulfate is also not very volatile, so you may be damaging a large percentage of your product. Amphetamine HCl is unstable and it might decompose during heating. Maybe it works but I do not know anything about physical properties. You might just hurt your lungs. Also you need to purify your product since cuts (binders, solvent, sugars) will certainly destroy your product since boiling properties and combustion properties are different. I would not want to risk inhaling any vaporised contaminations or by-products of the synthesis. Your best bet is freebase or HCL, but re-extraction is probably mandatory. Maybe someone can collaborate on this event.
@Shamiroqai
Best wishes and welcome back!
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@jagfug:
No, I meant the speed only. :D
I'm curious how much do you guys need to take (preferably w/o tolerance) oraly/nasaly to achieve quite strong effect.
Can't wait to try BM's speed again next week without tolerance :D
Anybody thinks that horniness differ from speed to speed or does it (also) depends on "set and setting"? :D
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Here are the results from Eric Cartman's stuff
There was 32% amphetamine in it so 32/73*100 makes 44% absolute.
The amount of caffeine was 38 %.
I was ordering in the time he would double the amount for the first ten buyers so I ordered 10 gram.
What I was receiving was 15 gram and very wet. I sent him a mail what I had received and two weeks later I received another 11 gram not bone dry but not as wet as the first time. So totally I had more then 20 gram.
It was strange stuff and it did not dry completely . It was a kind of orange/purple bubble gum.
But his stuff works good for me and my girlfriend better then Powerade's stuff with about the same
My experience with Eric Cartman was not bad at all.
Regards Speedie
After this post I had several contacts with Eric Cartman about his stuff like the color texture and ofcourse the claimed purity.
After a few email's he offered me to send 20 gram of his new stuff for free.
I accepted that ofcourse and last tuesday I received 20 gram of his new stuff for free.
This new stuff was total different from his previous batch.
It was snow white almost dry and and no strong flagrance.
My girlfriend and I tried this last two days our opnion is that this very good speed.
We have also speed from Boymaster at home and we think that the stuff from Eric Cartman is at least as strong or stronger.
So at the end I am very satisfied with Eric Cartman . (40 gram for 110 dollar sometimes your lucky )
Next thursday I bring it to the lab and will post the reults 8 day's later.
Speedie
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We have also speed from Boymaster at home and we think that the stuff from Eric Cartman is at least as strong or stronger.
Next Thursday I bring it to the lab and will post the results 8 day's later.
This could be interesting. Gonna wait for the test results, since my body and mind get very uncomfortable (SS once described the feeling better than I can) with BM's amph it would be nice to have something pure and strong next to CC.
EDIT: Thanks Jag, I read your post about "Best Dutch Drugs". At first I also had some doubts (hello perfect profile page) , but then I was like fuck it, 11$... and quickly logged in, doubted some more, noticed only 3 samples were left and ordered. Wait and see I guess. It shows in transit already.
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I wish there was an update on iisthisisi. I tried messaging him, but no response. I guess he's busy with the meth sales.
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Just received FoxCave's sample, mine was one of the wet packs and so far it smells the exact same as Mercury31 and HO's stuff--like lotion or baby powder or ??? Seems like all of the euro paste has that strong fragrance (it's sourced from Spain if I remember correctly), don't get me wrong, I enjoyed both of their amps--they just weren't ultra strong and I can't snort this stuff.
Will update when I test it tomorrow, I'm sure other people's samples will be coming in soon.
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Foxcaves paste seemed wet but chopped up dry instantly.. no real drip at the back of the throat after hoovering which was a bit weird.. blood boogers ensued the following 2 days which I hardly ever get. I suppose 100mg of 60% amphetamine sulphate is about 43mg amphetamine.. the high didn't last that long though it probably wouldn't compared to cousin meth....
Interesting to hear what others subjective viewpoint is.... be good to get some testing done by PineappleLove be even better to set the clock for the 11th of March I'm sure CC's gonna prepare the envelopes ....Ready...Set.....Go...and there off..
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WELCOME BACK SHAMIROQAI !!
I sensed something was up. Nice to hear you're on the mend. I even searched the forum members list, but for some reason I was starting with the letter "J" - wasn't that some 80's act? Anyway . . .
I too got my Foxcave sample. There's that familiar "speed" smell, as Devaney1984 says. I know amphetamine is odorless. There's just that familiar scent of whatever wash they use during the process.
I would say it's average bargain basement speed. I tried it after a full 8 hour sleep. Was kind of groggy from a benzo I took for sleep.
Very harsh on nose. Still pushed myself to snort approx .08g worth, which for me is 4 lines. 2 at first followed by a redose 20 mins later. Started to feel a speed buzz, thinking "this is going to be good!"
That was followed by extreme agitation, like an overdose of caffeine. It lasted about an hour, then I was right back to feeling like I just woke up. Caffeine itself doesn't leave you that fast. So it's hard to tell
what was in there without a true test, like is only available in Europe. My tolerance is quite high, since coming into some extra cash.
I dove into my secret stash for some BM speed, did. 2 lines of that, and I cooked dinner, cleaned up. Felt I wanted more. I decided to dip into the very little bit of CC gear I have left.
That was 3 hours ago. Since then I've done 4 more lines of BM, and orally ingested .10g of CC, chased with a beer. So I guess my tolerance is too high to give an accurate review.
I put the rest of Foxcaves sample (orig .21g) into a special stash, where I keep less desirable stuff. I was fortunate enough this month to get orders from 7 different vendors.
Though that fortune is a double edged sword. Higher tolerance is the downside. Once you're spoiled by the likes of BM and CC, you become a speed snob. LoL. Nothing comes close (so far..)
@JungleFlash69 I'd say with NO tolerance, always start low. .05g and wait 30 mins. (snorting) Then if you like it, have another .05. Then wait a full hour before re-dosing. Speed can have a cumulative effect, and sometimes you get to a point where you say. "I shouldn't have done those last two lines" LoL - but you live and learn. - Always start LOW. As far as bombing (orally ingesting) could start the same way, though it seems less intense so .10g to start might not be too much. - #1 Rule for low tolerance speed taking - "Less is more". - The worst is to "overdo" the 1st time, and start imagining you're having a heart attack! - I know, I've done it!
@6DEE3CADA - Thanks for the response. I wish there was a place in the US that one could bring their speed to test. I'm sure there is, it's just not legal. So for now, I have to rely on my own reaction, and the tests you guys are able to do.
Peace
jagfug
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Jagfug... the juggernaut of multiple vendors
Regarding Foxy's gear you say
"Still pushed myself to snort approx .08g worth, which for me is 4 lines. 2 at first followed by a redose 20 mins later."
Is it 0.02g lines 0.08g total... or 0.20g lines 0.8g? There's a slight tenfold difference in cause and effect
It definitely made me feel and smell just as bad as meth for days afterwards
Wouldn't quite call it basement speed but yet to try CC or BM's benchmark pow
Anybody who hasn't done so already do yourself a favour and invest in some 0.01g scales. Got mine yesterday can't believe went without for 13 years. Unaware or What!
Safe Lines
Also I think if speed has a maximum amphetamine content of 73% it should not include the inactive sulphate part what for? ... this includes testing and advertising by vendors...
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15minutes ago, I snorted 40mg of Interways speed - which came in white small waxy rocks with a strong fragrance of something like baby powder. Don't know yet about potency but i don't like that smell.
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Jagfug... the juggernaut of multiple vendors
Regarding Foxy's gear you say
"Still pushed myself to snort approx .08g worth, which for me is 4 lines. 2 at first followed by a redose 20 mins later."
Is it 0.02g lines 0.08g total... or 0.20g lines 0.8g? There's a slight tenfold difference in cause and effect
It definitely made me feel and smell just as bad as meth for days afterwards
Wouldn't quite call it basement speed but yet to try CC or BM's benchmark pow
Anybody who hasn't done so already do yourself a favour and invest in some 0.01g scales. Got mine yesterday can't believe went without for 13 years. Unaware or What!
Safe Lines
Also I think if speed has a maximum amphetamine content of 73% it should not include the inactive sulphate part what for? ... this includes testing and advertising by vendors...
I actually measured out .08 for testing Foxcaves stuff. I made 4 lines out of it. So I did half of that amount, then 20 mins later, did the rest. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on that.
I'll even give it another shot today, when I'm coming down from the night.
Not the worst speed, but definitely not the best. I'd say it's just below Evilutions, which I like. Not sure what "extra" ingredient is in there, but I'll let you know after I do a little more.
In hindsight, I really didn't give it a fair test. Just knowing I could have the other two, was distracting my fiendish mind. 8)
@italosvevo - I've been noticing that fragrance a lot lately in some of the different grams I ordered. One of them I swear had a mens talcum powder "musk" scent.
I noticed that vendor Interways, seems like a lot of good feedback on their forum page. - It's all a roll of the dice in this game. Unless you can get it tested. :-\
Peace
jagfug
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@italosvevo - I've been noticing that fragrance a lot lately in some of the different grams I ordered. One of them I swear had a mens talcum powder "musk" scent.
I noticed that vendor Interways, seems like a lot of good feedback on their forum page. - It's all a roll of the dice in this game. Unless you can get it tested. :-\
Peace
jagfug
So, there's no clue about quality regarding this strange fragrance ?
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"Still pushed myself to snort approx .08g worth, which for me is 4 lines. 2 at first followed by a redose 20 mins later."
Is it 0.02g lines 0.08g total... or 0.20g lines 0.8g?
I think he means 4 lines of 20mg = 80mg. Unless, of course, he actually DID stuff almost a gram up his sniffer within 30 minutes.
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Meh, the postman brought only junk mail again.
I'am getting a little bit nervous, if a love letter is possibly incoming.
http://li7qxmk72kp3sgz4.onion/image.php?img=ab083d39ce228d883ba916cfb20851cc&key=e2b85b644f91ad5613b39cecdd7b5829
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As far as Best Dutch Drugs goes, when you say "wait till the sky clears" do you mean after a few weeks of orders coming in and some decent feedback and/or tests, or is there something else going on there?
I missed this one. Clearing skies is a somewhat misleading statement. I just meant that some SR transactions could be highly illegal in some countries and could get you arrested and condemned. So maybe it is better to keep being wary and do not become overly comfortable to fast. Just wait for a few successful orders by people who are in a less risky environment. :)
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@italosvevo - I've been noticing that fragrance a lot lately in some of the different grams I ordered. One of them I swear had a mens talcum powder "musk" scent.
I noticed that vendor Interways, seems like a lot of good feedback on their forum page. - It's all a roll of the dice in this game. Unless you can get it tested. :-\
Peace
jagfug
So, there's no clue about quality regarding this strange fragrance ?
I would defer that question to Mr 6DEE3CADA - he's more up on the chemistry of it all. I'm in the US. No testing facilities at our disposal. (that I know of)
@Sham - you got it right.
Also I tried another 20 mgs, and again felt what must be "bodyload" - basically it was like I had been up all night (well I was) but I felt that shitty feeling that caffeine gives you if you're taking it to stay awake. Very heavy chest. Any euphoria still had left in me vanished, and I couldn't wait to get some more BM speed into my system. Which I did, and that was like 4 hours ago. I feel fine.
So, I say no to Foxcaves speed.
I'm honored that they asked me to try it, but I would take just about any other vendor that I've already tried.
I'm certain that it's loaded with caffeine, and something else possibly. Who knows? An RC perhaps? - I mean caffeine shouldn't come on that fast, nor leave just as fast.
@ Tempo - are you still waiting for your CC order?
Oh well. Hang in there. We all know that feeling. :(
peace
jagfug
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@jagfug
I am just technologically inclined and have a somewhat unhealthy interest in things at the less accepted side of the scale. ;) I have no personal experiences on smoking. Amphetamine freebase is probably smokable. The difference between boilingpoint and combustionpoint of amphetaminesulfate is quite small, which makes it hard to vaporise correctly. amphetaminesulfate is also not very volatile, so you may be damaging a large percentage of your product. Amphetamine HCl is unstable and it might decompose during heating. Maybe it works but I do not know anything about physical properties. You might just hurt your lungs. Also you need to purify your product since cuts (binders, solvent, sugars) will certainly destroy your product since boiling properties and combustion properties are different. I would not want to risk inhaling any vaporised contaminations or by-products of the synthesis. Your best bet is freebase or HCL, but re-extraction is probably mandatory. Maybe someone can collaborate on this event.
@Shamiroqai
Best wishes and welcome back!
I believe amph sulfate's boiling point is roughly 270 celcius, whereas its combustion point is around 300. This means that technically yes, you can smoke it, however in practice, you will never be able to heat it evenly enough not to burn off 50%+ of your product(Based on lab grade amph, if its street bought amph or even relatively pure amph produced in clandestine labs ala boymaster/CC, you will probably be burning 75%+)
Moreover, I fail to see the point in smoking Amphetamine, if you are looking for an intense onset, why not inject? Amphetamine works quite well injected, the rush is substantial, and given its relatively poor bioavailability both orally and nasally(60 and 80% respectively I believe) it just seems like the most effective ROA from anyone just looking to get a high.
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hiya all! new to SR & the forums so wish me welcome xD been reading a few weeks now time to get active iguess. planing to make my first orders in the end of next week, and ive came to the conclusion that BM is a solid choise and on the 11th(?) CC . Will also make a purchase from BDD. Plan also on reporting back and post some reviews how i felt each product.
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Best Dutch Drugs came through with his 1gr The strongest SPEED you can get! +/- 80% Pure sample. Nicely packaged and a fast delivery. Dry, yellow hue and slightly waxy.
Which batch do you want to see tested first? 2012/2 batch Boymaster or 2012/2 batch Best Dutch Drugs?
I have added them to http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion/#awaiting
@gasterwes: Any labtest result on the HO batch already?
So, there's no clue about quality regarding this strange fragrance ?
I would defer that question to Mr 6DEE3CADA - he's more up on the chemistry of it all. I'm in the US. No testing facilities at our disposal. (that I know of)
Pure amphetamine salts are odourless. Since street speed is often synthesised with a less than optimal process there can ben additional substances present which can cause smell to the 'finished' product. It all depends on the accuracy of the synthesise. Also any added cuts can mess with the resulting smell. Maybe it is possible to deduct information from the product smell about the synthesise process and used precursors , but I have insufficient usage knowledge about that.
Please let at least always evaporate any volatile substances from your speed before usage. If you have the option, get the speed tested and always thoroughly rinse with acetone. This will remove most hazardous substances and odours.
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I sell dried speed, each batch labtested via www.drugs-test.nl government enabled testing service, for 15$/gram minimum of 2 grams(that would be $7 for paste).
My speed is the average strenght for Dutch speed at 31%, the average according to EMCDDA statistics. (http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/stats11/ppptab8a) Only the mean is actually given in the table at 27 but i had speed from another supplier tested also at 31%.
There is a logic behind this, if you read up on the latest report of the EMCDDA on european drug markets you'll find that the most important ingredient/precursor for speed is now also made in illicit drug labs instead of being imported due to the very strict LE on BMK/P2P/Phenylacetone. I know a guy who deals liters of this stuff and asks 1200€ per liter, another can get it for €800. It yields in practical conditions (same report) 1 kg of pure amphetamine (1 liter can yield 1,4kg, but not in those labs according to europol/interpol).
So that excludes the other chemicals (that are quite cheap, but the same report states that 18 litres of chemical waste is created for 1 kg, although i find that a bit much) AND the work AND the risk. If you do the math, you understand why this guy explanied to me that Dutch speed typically leaves the lab at 31%, because people in the street here in the Netherlands don't want to pay more than €10,- for 1 gram, so that's why we now have 'paste' (an older user that hadn't used in years since the 70s looked very surprised at the fact that speed is now dealt as paste).
Makes sense, dry it out and you lose half (sometimes even more, but half is reasonable). That makes sense, because if you do all the calculations, people who take risk of production typically want to get paid well, and they can sell the precursor BMK also for a good price, so why make amphetamine if it is not profitable. (A batch takes something like a day or of 'cooking', freezing, seperating, etc. etc.)
He told me that the speed that he made from his precursor was standard around 35%, if i wanted 50 or higher i had to order a few kilos seperately, he was very knowledgable on the process and i've read every book on the market about it, so his story made sense.
Speed is also one of the very few drugs that can be cut to a very low percentage and still not be immediately noticable as a low percentage drug. (this is the reason a friend who is a legend and has been dealnig for over 20 years, sometimes gets bad batches. he has also been using for that time, and he is 24/7 on the stuff.)
A guy who worked at the testlab here also told me that speed is so strong that even 1% vs. 68% caffeine would still be potent. I think that there is a difference in how the speed is made how it is subtly exprienced but i've seen people what turned out to be 15% and be very happy. If you do this with coke, you can taste it immediately, with speed, you just run out of powder quicker. This is the reason that in the same table in he Netherlands speed is sold with a purity ranging from 1 to 73 percent (the technical max. with sulfate) (this are min and max. seized by police) (http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/stats11/ppptab8a)<- this table lists all countries, in norway the quality is actually the best, according to police seizure stats that is.
If you find that 54% has more kick, buy acetone, put the speed in the acetone and you'll end up with 5something% purity. Just filter through a coffee filter and dry. Simple and effective, also for people who don't have lab test possibilities, it is a good way to how much of your stuff vanishes. For me its not necessery, i've had batches of 54%, but unreliable suppliers, so i am sticking with my solid 31%, with the batches of 54% i just lasted longer.
So now on sale: 2 grams for 30$ dry to snort. Check my feedback about quality. I do requrie FE for outside EU and certain countries but i am also the only one who refunds consistently according to the refund percentage that i apply to each country, because there is just a lot of seizures in US and AUS and the Delivery Success Rate of 95% what some people claim on the forums is just pure bs!, i just had somebody who had a letter intercepted, while receiving the same letter (identical packaging method, same product) the same day with the same delivery. (US)
In finland you'll find delivery is the hardest but the penalties for having a kilo of speed you only go to jail for a year, for 100g you can go to jail in Ireland for 25 years. Check the report http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/joint-publications/drug-markets PDF page 79.
Also on the page 76 of http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/attachements.cfm/att_194336_EN_TD3112366ENC.pdf
states:
"...Amphetamine purity
Amphetamine seems to be the illicit drug whose purity
shows the highest variation. Analyses of samples across
Europe—most of which are from seizures at different levels
of the market—reveal extreme values between 0 % and
100 %, making purity very unpredictable. Samples of very
high purity, over 95 %, were found in a number of countries
in 2011, in particular those with higher levels of
consumption—Sweden, the United Kingdom and Norway.
Although mean purity varies across countries between 5 %
and 30 %, the highest purity (20–30%) is found in countries
where production is documented (Belgium, Latvia, Lithuania
and the Netherlands) or where consumption is relatively
high (Finland, Sweden and Norway)..."
There shuold be some kind of labtest qualification for vendors, so Dutch customers should do a lot of (free) tests, it only costs 0,1g of substance. Vendors should send samples for testing to several dutch customers so they can assess the quality for real. The lab gives you a clear number per batch, so there is no need to be less precise or think that you can count on suppliers. My supplier responded to the test "You're right, everybody is just full of shit". (The cooks where he buys from claimed 70% purity, when confronted they blamed the precursors, it had little consequence and this supplier takes back anything that i buy that is under the right percentage, this is the reason i had no MDMA because i had a batch of 26%, everyone will be refunded or replaced with my regular quality of 75-79% MDMA)
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Thanks for the explanation, it´s very interesting for me, cause there was such a huge quality loss of speed the last 15 years and I wondered why exactly. With this, more and more meth was coming up, replacing the speed, although there´s quite a difference between these two substances I think.
Have been very happy to find at least 2 vendors with a good product here. I´ll order a little bit of yours as soon as I got the coins ready and give it a try, too.
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Melting point (as a solid) is important whenever to decide possibility of smoking it. Because if to high temperature MP drug will decompose.
example is why is crack somakable (freebasying with bicarb to lower the MP) when coca.hcl is not.
AMPHETAMINE FREEBASE
Slowly volatile liquid with characteristicamine odour (similar to geranium leaves) and an acridtaste. Slightly soluble in water, soluble in alcoholand ether. Aqueous solutions are alkaline to litmus.
Melting point is approximately 300°C with decomposition.
source for freebase:
http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/pharm/pim934.htm#PartTitle:3. PHYSICO-CHEMICAL PROPERTIES
Amphetamine sulfate melting point is very near as freebase 280 celzius
source for sulfate:
http://www.evol.nw.ru/~spirov/hazard/dl-amphetamine_sulfate.html
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Best Dutch Drugs came through with his 1gr The strongest SPEED you can get! +/- 80% Pure sample. Nicely packaged and a fast delivery.
Which batch do you want to see tested first? 2012/2 batch Boymaster or 2012/2 batch Best Dutch Drugs?
I have added them to http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion/#awaiting
@gasterwes: Any labtest result on the HO batch already?
Without a doubt Best Dutch Drugs. We already know that BM's gear is good, almost certainly in the 75%+ region. Best Dutch Drugs is, as of yet, untested. However he's definitely a contender for the HOF amph vendors(CC, BM, MrFireUK iisthisisi) if his claims are true.
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well doesn't all the magic speed end up with SR vendors then. The article in the report clearly said that the highest range that this research acknowledges to be of any size in Europe is 30%. The labs don't give results in decimals behind the percentage point number, where do these results come from...
first of all, are these tests done through www.drugs-test.nl offices? My experience is with two of their offices that the maximum purity of amphetamine sulphate is 73%. (Some people then can convert that to a relative 100%) but the scale they use is 0-73. 75 for amphetamine sulfate is not possible, although perhaps with ampheramine hcl it is.
what is 'not anonymously' bought? this whole thing is bogus, or the test results come from all kinds of 'sources'. i am talking about the dutch drugs-test.nl site which tests in a central labaratory either in utrecht or rotterdam, that i don't recall. these results do not seem to come from there.
i have phone recordnigs with my test results, as you can only call into the lab for your results. perhaps that would prove something.
but i think eventually, people will get tired of the top quality bs pitch, no coke dealer in amsterdam says his coke is 80%,.people'd think he's a liar... (there are of course such dealers, but they roam the streets). the market has developed that your straight and honest, and name numbers when you have lab results and not 'its always good from those guys' or other vagueries.
i got a batch that is 54% but it was more expensive, i also had one once that was 16%. 30% is a good percentage, and researchers agree. check out the emcdda.eu website, they're is some good solid info there... it is a number that sits well with the price of precursors and production and the people in the business i talk to in the worlds largest speed producer, the Netherlands. The average strenght of domestic speed is 30%. So where are all the vendors with the 5-10% speed. They are also saying theirs is 50+ or 74 or 96 and the end result is a low trust situation, and anybody from a low trust society can tell you that it sucks.
31%, dry, $15. and that's for real.
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@Maxhavelaar:
Unless I'm horribly wrong all the results on that page are indeed converted to a relative 100% and not the dutch way.
So your 31% speed would show as 31/73*100= 42,46%.
As to why the maker of the list decided to do it that way, I dunno, but I'm sure someone with a higher IQ and less foggy mind than mine can elaborate the reasoning behind this and/or correct me being a math-noob.
This being said, my next order will be from you. Seems like a good price/quality. I would have ordered sooner but your name/products must have missed my line of sight on here somehow since I'm always keen on trying not-so-far-away vendors.
Cheers,
Sham
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Yeah check it out, i am sure you won't be dissapointed, i've been sitting here since thursday behind my PC, and i haven't used a whole lot.
time for a xanax, and also if you have someone elses that claims feels stronger, do a blind test with a friend and ask him to pick out the stronger one,
it's pretty hard, speed from 20% purity is a pretty strong substance, even if its less pure. this ain't no mindfuck cocaine, a good line and you won't be staring sugar for well 3 hours i think...
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@6DEE3CADA: big respect for your lab-testings, updates on current batches are always welcome.
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@gasterwes: Any labtest result on the HO batch already?
Nope. Delayed (at least) one week. Last time it took 3 weeks also so I do expect a result this Friday.
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15minutes ago, I snorted 40mg of Interways speed - which came in white small waxy rocks with a strong fragrance of something like baby powder. Don't know yet about potency but i don't like that smell.
any updates about INTERWAYS?
Just checked his promising reviews, wondering if this vendor is worth a try?
What are your opinions about his offered gear,
are your experiences satisfying so far?
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Received sample from Foxcave, 250mg of bonedry powder showed up in my mailbox yesterday.
Envelope was very discreet and there was nothing to feel from outside.
No time yesterday to open & try it so I just opened the envelope.
Smell of cutting agents already came rushing to me before I opened the vac seal, reminded me very much of regular street speed.
Just made a 50mg line and snorted, holy shit it burns... a lot :P
My hangover is mostly gone, so that's a good sign. Will have to wait longer before I comment on quality :)
Edit1:
Well I had some posting issues and the drip came through while trying to post this... Fucking hell GROSS :o Worst drip I've had in a long long time..
edit2:
A little over 1 hour in, and although I really appreciate the free sample this gear is far from 60% pure. Cut with caffeine for sure, 50mg gives me fast heartbeat, sweaty hands and made me run to the toilet. :-X
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Re ordered BM because it's BM! Also a little tester from maxhavelaar and Best Dutch for a little variety...It was Jagfug made me do it :-)..ill try to give an objective review..unless they all arrive together and temptation wins. It always does !
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First off, i am no chemist but have 30 plua years of memory and for some reason i remember the exceptional drugs i have had.
I have had speed from MRFireUK or from here on lets call him cunt, that cunt had some great speed, i forget his purity claim but when i tried to iv it thjese little dryish bits would not dissolve, so one pure claim dissolved, had the same experience with the boymaster. Dont get me wrong its the best speed i have haad in 15years or so. That 1/2 g From cunt lasted longer and got me proper high, more than 3pts of meth. also had a couple g from Poweraid, bit scary whenn openuing the letter as it was dripping liquid between innber and outer bag. Mopped off the wet, opened the bag to the air and a coup,e hours latter i had a stash, he was calling it better than %50.
An old guy i know knew a connected person and used to get speed by the kg, he would cut it 50/50 [in hindsite i think it was some kind of caffeine thin g] bury iut for 6mths. His rave weas that becazuse of the hydroscopic nature of speed the 2 things did some sort of byodynamic magic. The end result was, put a small blob on foil, chase it around get as high as any meth you have ever piped.
After the puff there was nothing except a hint of a water mark outlining where yhe blob was.
So chemist minds was this speed, given that speed dissolves in water? have yet to see Any off the Road that does, still, would rather have good speed that does'nt bang than crap thjazy does.
love the vendors i have mentioned and know that one day mr fire wi ll feel the flame of karma.
Working through an order with CapeCrusader at the mo, like the soumnd of his.
Reccomends of honest kickarse speed vendors who do aust with close to perfect stats { they are fukin piss weak if they dont } would be greaty appreciated
Better go that pesky Mephedrone is being a bit of a nuisance and needsa to be spanked with a little meth
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There should be a review of Best Dutch's batch tomorrow, as long as Royal Mail pulls through. Haven't received mail neither Friday nor Saturday!
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Better go that pesky Mephedrone is being a bit of a nuisance and needsa to be spanked with a little meth
I love it here sometimes. I mean God damn do I love it here sometimes. Where else do you get to hear people say shit like that and actually mean it? :P
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Ha hah! @ SS! I think we're on the same wavelength tonight. (Speedlength?_
As I'm rationing out what's left of my BM+CC orders, I have another BM en route ;D as well as " Best Dutch"
Max I bought from back around Christmas, and was quite happy with his gear.. He's a stand up guy, and really takes care of his customers.
I know I mentioned him on here back in Dec , but nobody said anything. That was when BM had disappeared, CC wasn't back and Powerade was number one! Amazing how things change!
Well, I think it's time to "dip into that baggie" one more time. Though I really don't NEED it. ;D But you know how it is
I raise my glass in a toast to you all!
Peace
jagfug
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I have a great review for Maxhavelaar . I'm happy to report. In fact I'll just copy+paste the FB I just left.
6 days to East Coast, small town, during busy mail season!
5/5- Stealth (Best I've seen out of 20 orders!)
5/5 Communication.
5/5 Quality - above average.
The guy is allright in my book. We had the "usual" discussion in PM's about NL-US and the whole "Post workers with sticky fingers" - We agreed to give it a go anyway. He was hesitant about doing escrow, even thought I have what I consider to be excellent stats;
Total transactions: 38
Total spent: $2271.86
Refund rate: 0%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 8 months
Though I can't blame a Vendor who has been burned by scam buyers.
All in all, a nice speed for the money. I went through a 4 day withdraw, so I'm a little more positive. - I don't test. Other than on myself. Not yet anyway, perhaps I'll buy a kit one of these days.
Overall, a nice clean speed high. Not overly speedy, not caffeieney.
Did 2 small lines an hour ago.
Gonna go weigh it at my friends house. I'll bet it weighs over, or it's at least an even gram, even after my 2 lines. Will let you all know for sure.
So maxhavelaar is A-OK for this buyer. - Could have just as easily gotten lost, I know.
I just wanted to add to the forum.
It's great to see so many people giving reviews on Vendors again.
Seems like this thread gets stuck in "off-topic" or too much drama.
Thanks to all who keep it what it should be.
Speed ya later!
- Jacko (Jagfug)
Just wanted to show you guys my review of MaxHavelaar from back in December.
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Received from Best Dutch Drugs today and just had a little bit in a glass of water. Currently I don't have a tolerance after a few weeks off [a period of MDMA and cathinone abuse has since made me cautious]. Let's see what happens!
Regarding packaging and all that stuff, BDD seems very friendly and the packaging was excellent. So far they seem as professional as their profile suggests! The speed itself is dry, powdery and has a yellow tinge. It tastes like shit! ;) I'll update later with regards to quality.
Happy Monday, gentlemen and women.
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Received from Best Dutch Drugs today and just had a little bit in a glass of water. Currently I don't have a tolerance after a few weeks off [a period of MDMA and cathinone abuse has since made me cautious]. Let's see what happens!
Regarding packaging and all that stuff, BDD seems very friendly and the packaging was excellent. So far they seem as professional as their profile suggests! The speed itself is dry, powdery and has a yellow tinge. It tastes like shit! ;) I'll update later with regards to quality.
Happy Monday, gentlemen and women.
Sounds good so far! Definitely keep us posted! Also when was it shipped? Just curious because mine was Thursday. Though I'm in the US, so there's that. You're somewhere in EU if I'm not mistaken.
Can't wait to try it myself!
Peace
Jagfug
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Received from Best Dutch Drugs today and just had a little bit in a glass of water. Currently I don't have a tolerance after a few weeks off [a period of MDMA and cathinone abuse has since made me cautious]. Let's see what happens!
Regarding packaging and all that stuff, BDD seems very friendly and the packaging was excellent. So far they seem as professional as their profile suggests! The speed itself is dry, powdery and has a yellow tinge. It tastes like shit! ;) I'll update later with regards to quality.
Happy Monday, gentlemen and women.
Sounds good so far! Definitely keep us posted! Also when was it shipped? Just curious because mine was Thursday. Though I'm in the US, so there's that. You're somewhere in EU if I'm not mistaken.
Can't wait to try it myself!
Peace
Jagfug
It was shipped on Thursday, but they forgot to mark it in transit so they sent me a message on SR giving me an update on Saturday. I'm in the UK, so it's usually 3 days from Holland.
About to have a bit more now, I'll update again later!
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Unless I'm horribly wrong all the results on that page are indeed converted to a relative 100% and not the dutch way.
So your 31% speed would show as 31/73*100= 42,46%.
As to why the maker of the list decided to do it that way, I dunno, but I'm sure someone with a higher IQ and less foggy mind than mine can elaborate the reasoning behind this and/or correct me being a math-noob.
You are correct sir. ;) Amphetamine is available in many different forms such as freebase oil, but also salts such as amphetaminephosphate, amphetaminesulphate, amphetaminehydrochloride, etc. Al these forms have a different purity since the amphetamine content of the molecule (salt) differs. Amphetaminesulphate consists of ~73% amphetamine, amphetaminehydrochloride consists of ~78% amphetamine. To correct for these differences al labtest results are transformed to a purity vs weight percentage. 73% of amphetaminesulphate will result in 100% purity and 78% of amphetaminehydrochloride will result in 100% purity. The labtest report notation is also taken into account, thanks to the support of Müslix (SO4 for NL, HCL for CH). This transformation makes it possible to compare the purity of any amphetamine form in a single table, which would otherwise not be possible. Please be aware that this final percentage does not say anything about potency, just purity which is the main goal of the table. Different salt forms are having different bioavailablities, which will probably not differ that much. Amphetaminesulphate is the most common form since it has the most suitable characteristics.
Btw haven't heard from Müslix in a while, everything alright mate?
Regarding packaging and all that stuff, BDD seems very friendly and the packaging was excellent. So far they seem as professional as their profile suggests! The speed itself is dry, powdery and has a yellow tinge.
Happy Monday, gentlemen and women.
Same for me, it smells somewhat like talk. Mild pleasant smell, not your average irritating amphetamine smell. I am going to separate a few mg from the product to send to the lab. All what is left will be acetone washed and weighed. I will report about the weight before and after acetone wash. It gives a rough estimate about purity. Happy monday! ;)
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Review of my latest order with HollandOnline (copy-pasted from his review thread):
Ordered 5g of Mister HollandOnline's HQ amph paste on Friday and to my surprise, today, Monday, it was already inside my mailbox lmao (Holland --> neighbor country)!
Didn't really expect it to arrive THAT fast.
Earlier orders from HO arrived pretty fast too (3-4 weekdays) but this is, for me, a new "speed-record" lol. Especially since it was over the weekend. Other countries should take some lessons from the Dutch mail-people.
The package was nice, clean, tight and odorless.
The paste was moist but not too wet, so I had no problems taking most of it out to dry without making a big mess and spilling all over the place. After letting the baggie sit open for 5-10 minutes the chunks fell out on the plate without leaving too much sticking inside the bag.
And so the chopping up and additional drying began!
After drying my 5,386g paste ended up 4,316 of dry, clean and white powder (I guess it's a new batch since my last order was kinda yellowish).
The weight loss is the thing I hate the most with buying paste, but I kinda expected it already, so ok... . HO seems to already add some extra to compensate for the loss in drying but maybe adding another 100mg in paste would be even better.
I haven't been using anything for almost 14 days (if my memory is right) so after sniffing a few lines (total 85mg) in a 30 minute time span a bit over an hour ago I now feel:
Euphoric (+)
Focused (+)
Awake (+)
Only very mild increase in heart rate (+)
No feelings of vasoconstriction except for cold nosetip already having speed-dick-syndrome lmao (+)
No other negative feelings of bodyload (+)
So only ++++ in every department for this HO order.
I'll definitely order again from this fine vendor!
Another happy customer,
Sham
P.S: I'm not mad, angry or asking any sort of compensation for the weight thing, I just added it as constructive criticism and doesn't take anything away from his well deserved 5/5 score!
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The last I saw of Muslix, he mentioned something or other about a UK to EU interception. If he's around I'm sure he'll pop up and say so, but just so that you don't go totally unanswered... there's my memory of it. Take it for what it's worth.
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Btw haven't heard from Müslix in a while, everything alright mate?
His profile shows as being last active 2 days ago so I'm sure he's alive and well.
EDIT: what SS said
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No feelings of vasoconstriction except for cold nosetip already having speed-dick-syndrome
Sham
I know the feeling. I was trying to drink beer all night, and everytime I went to pee, I was like "Why Lord? why??"
Trying to use mind control over my ureter, .."just relax, just relax"
Glad to hear you're enjoying it! I got from HO too, and was quite pleased. I also got 3 hits of acid, for some future date when my old friend and I felt we could "handle it". But alas I lost it!
I was more preoccupied with keeping track of all the speed orders I spoiled myself with, and oh well! Maybe they'll turn up in a CD case or something.
Enjoy!
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CD case? What's that -- some sort of controlled delivery portable prison...?!? Showing your age there, grandpa.
LOL, I'm totally kidding... I have CDs too. But to be serious, I don't think the most recent generation has ever even owned one :o
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CD case? What's that -- some sort of controlled delivery portable prison...?!? Showing your age there, grandpa.
LOL, I'm totally kidding... I have CDs too. But to be serious, I don't think the most recent generation has ever even owned one :o
Don't even have to say you're kidding. You can bust my balls anytime SS,
The fact that you pointed out is SCARY! - Last night I revealed to my 18 yr old daughter why the Grammy's are called the Grammy's. She had no idea.
I still have vinyl my friend. Even the Zeppelin I first issue disc, the special Robert Sterling mix straight from the master before it was sent off to the record company. Very much sought after by audiophiles.
Despite a little surface noise, what you hear is an incredible dynamic range not heard since. The panning from speaker to speaker, is more pronounced. It was making cheap record players needles jump off the record! So they pulled it, in favor of a more "equalized mix" - Now you know I'm old!!!
I find MP3's don't have the same quality sound as the CD's issued by record companies. Especially noticeable on the Rolling Stones last catalogue reissu through Universal.
I even bought a CD the other day! Led Zep IV, in the cheap bin at Wal-Mart --$9 !
Yep, Grandpa jagfug likes his CD's !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
PS Been speeding since last night at 6pm! Almost 11:30 am here. Looks like I'm pulling a 2 day'er! 8)
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It's all about vinyl or .WAV / .FLAC!
Anyway, this BDD batch is a bit odd, I can't tell whether or not I like it. It's quite 'back seat' and in that sense feels more like a fluoroamphetamine, but at the same time I am definitely stimulated. I tried going to the gym after the third bump of the day and returned home feeling ill, probably because I hit it too hard at the gym. Anyway, that feeling subsided and I'm now quite content, though tempted to try some more to be honest...
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That is awfully odd... well, if you give in and indulge in a wee bit more than you know you should, do be sure to come back and let us know if it's still "back seat" stimulation or if you're unpleasantly spun or what. I definitely get sick of I take enough 2-FMA to try and really "feel it," ya know. 4-FMA I just plain don't like, so I wouldn't know about that... but to me that sounds a lot like what 2-FMA does to me. Obviously just anecdotal, but for what it's worth & all.
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I shall indulge a bit more for science, SS! It straight up and down looks like a g of 4-FA I've got, but then again... It's all anecdotal as you say. ROA has been oral as well, nothing up the nose. So I think I'll have a bit more and see where it takes me. Update to follow later!
Afterthought here, usually when I take speed, my mood is increased [not manic, but content; maybe even happy]. I haven't really gotten this today? Then again I've only had one spliff so far, out of a usual twelve - my typical mood stabiliser. Very much looking forward to the lab test of this batch...
Evening edit: So the effects seemed the increase throughout the day, even though I took my last dose at 15:00, I'd say I peaked at 20:00 - 21:00. Felt a lot more like the usual speed I've tried then, up until the peak it was very backseat. Not sure what I think!
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LOL, exactly right! Now everyone join hands and repeat after me: "we are scientists, not druggies. We are continuing our research, we are not addicts indulging."
I think we're going to get some valuable research finished today, don't you all?! ::)
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I feel like going for a run
It should be pretty safe?
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BDD "1gr The strongest SPEED you can get! +/- 80% Pure" acetone rinse resulted in a reduction of 37% percent which means his product should be somewhere around 63% purity.
I am really curious about the labtest, since it can confirm if my acetone rinses are accurate. I am always really surprised by the increase in volume after a rinse. Weight is less but the products volume is so much more.
Does someone have an European vendor for 2FA besides SR? I am really curious about that one!
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I know a parrot by the name of Polly, who told me that he will test Powerades new and better batch from Feb 2013 of "Amphetamine Paste (Speed) >50% purity" today. He asked me to post his experiences here in order to share knowledge as others do. That parrot claims to be an experienced MDMA, cocaine, hallucinogen and amphetamine user at the age of 30 but he does not have an amphetamine tolerance right now. He says he doesn't like speed that much - although he'd hardly refuse if someone offered him a line at a party.
However, the speed paste of Powerade seemed to be an interesting offer so Polly ordered 5g which he received fast and in a good package. After drying the paste (wettest ever seen so far) there was a reduction in weight of 30%, as stated in the product description. Polly learned yesterday from this forum that a former batch of that product had a lab test result of 23.3% purity and 35% caffeine contamination, which disappointed him a little (http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion/). Polly thinks that if he wants to have caffeine in his system he'd rather go and make himself a coffee. But anyway, the speed has to be consumed and Powerade claims that it is a new batch that is better than the one before so it will be tested on the bird now. Not to mention that it is Friday evening - no work tomorrow =D
6:35 pm - Polly just finished dinner and insufflates 0.04g of the powder. Mild burner. Speed typical odor present but not unpleasant.
6:45 pm - accelerated heart rate, Polly decides to do another 0.04g through the other nostril.
7:05 pm - Polly had a shower and freshened up. Pupils slightly dilated. Polly can feel it. Clear high, feels fit, not euphoric yet. Although he is not sure if it is necessary to do more, he takes another 0.04g before visiting a friend. He wants to know it.
Sat. 8:00 am - Polly arrived at home after having another 0.4g over the past hours at friend's apartment with some beers. Pupils dilated to the full extent now. Clear high throughout the night, good talking, minor jaw action, partially accelerated heart rate, no euphoria (because of recreational setting, in a club it might be different), overall relaxing experience
9:00 am - Polly wants to sleep but can't. Decides not to take a sleeping pill in order to see how long it lasts. Starts watching movies.
3:00 pm - Polly falls asleep for 3 hours
Polly can definitely recommend the product to others, although it seems not to be > 50% purity as the product description suggests. Preferably there would not be any caffeine in the product. It would be helpful to have a lab test on that new batch.
(will be reposted in Powerades review thread)
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Thanks but you don't need to do that Polly SWIM shit here bro, we all know it's you who bought the drugs and none of us gives a shit!
I have also tried Powerade's 50+ stuff and it's reasonable, does the job OK and feels clean.
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Yeah check it out, i am sure you won't be dissapointed, i've been sitting here since thursday behind my PC, and i haven't used a whole lot.
The information you posted is interesting. Thanks for that.
I assume that when you say you're using, you mean you aren't washing it first?
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as mentioned by IMM a few postings before, an updated lab-analysis for Powerade´s gear (new batch?) would prove,
if the recent and disappointing result has improved now or not.
is anyone also interested in it knowing the facts - or don´t you give a fukc about his offer?
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Here's a copy-paste of BoyMaster's review I just posted in his thread:-
I bought my first gram from BM last year, then made a 10g order at the end of the year only to have it not arrive. I had a few spare bitcoins sitting around and there's a few good events coming up so I gave it a go, ordered 2g off BM and it arrived today, weighed up at 2.2g and seems to be great quality from the look/smell.
I messaged him about my lost order and he told me there's nothing he can do so I can't really give 10/10 when I've recieved 3/13g from him, but it does seem that he is back!
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There's nothing he can do...? Bullshit. Try changing your feedback score for that order to 1/5 and tell him "there's nothing I can do," when he comes asking about it.
Nothing I can do... pfft. Please.
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There's nothing he can do...? Bullshit. Try changing your feedback score for that order to 1/5 and tell him "there's nothing I can do," when he comes asking about it.
Nothing I can do... pfft. Please.
+1 for creativity.
what if he ends up on the buyers blacklist?
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If a customer orders 10g and receives nothing, and you say to them "there's nothing I can do," then blacklist them for giving you the rating you deserve for said order... then I don't know what man. I don't know what, but I sure as fuck would have no problem warning people away from a vendor like that.
Just bad business. But the fact remains, a 10g order never arrived. That was when he supposedly left somebody else in charge for awhile or something, and while on the one hand I understand it may not have been him... on the other hand, he chose the guy and is kind of responsible for what the guy did. And the guy seems to have fucked a lot of people over. I don't know, a low rating seems justified to me, but it's a lot easier to say this shit when your SR name is different (like mine is).
Do whatever you're comfortable with, of course :)
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As is my SR name... i completely agree to an eye for an eye regarding ordering off SR.
I put up cash for order, order gets sent and received, positive 5/5 review will be forthcoming, we do more business.
I put up cash for order, order isn't sent or received, negative 1/5 review will be forthcoming, i tell people to stay away from you, you crack the shits and blacklist me, ruining any future purchasing opportunities.
This is along the lines of a thread i made about the existence of a Vendors Blacklist, to which there was no positive confirmation.
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There really is one. Please also note that I'm not saying you should leave poor feedback for ANY failed order... I'm just talking about this particular one. I've actually only had one failed order, but I'm extremely careful who I order from...
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To CapeCrusader, do you have any indication for what the prices are going to be on 5-10g+ orders?
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Here's a copy-paste of BoyMaster's review I just posted in his thread:-
I bought my first gram from BM last year, then made a 10g order at the end of the year only to have it not arrive. I had a few spare bitcoins sitting around and there's a few good events coming up so I gave it a go, ordered 2g off BM and it arrived today, weighed up at 2.2g and seems to be great quality from the look/smell.
I messaged him about my lost order and he told me there's nothing he can do so I can't really give 10/10 when I've recieved 3/13g from him, but it does seem that he is back!
Interestingly enough:
-The problem with the last orders has been explained, it will be solved as soon as possible with either reship or refund. No one has been scamming here, it was an unfortunate mistake. Anyway, 24 orders from 1214 didn't arrive, most of them in the last incident. I gives us a success rate of 98,023% which I think is good enough considering the problems that this business face.
The shitty feedback is from half of the orders of the last day, not three months. And the mistakes have been corrected, refunds given and drug resend. Just needs some time for the packages to make it through.
Which explanation is missing? I think everything is clear as a day.
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Did I miss something? Why all the hate towards BM?
Interestingly enough:
Maybe he got a refund? 50/50 split is standard procedure. You guys also need to take security in to account, BM admitted a fuckup but didn't fully explain what actually happened. His answers are sometimes vague. I can think of a ton of reasons why the exact circumstances should not be mentioned. Producing & selling the gear he does means prison for ?? a decade ??. Giving too much info out that could lead back to you VS giving a full explanation to unhappy customers is a no-brainer for me. If you want neat sounding explanations & stories go to MrFUK.
BM has always been good to me, product was always superb, even the waxy stuff before it had been washed. Shipping sometimes sucks, but I'd go with registered now. Btw is the waxy stuff sold out now? Everything white powder?
The 1/5 feedback-blackmail should only be done if you never want to buy from the vendor ever again. It's likely you won't get more and you do quite some damage to the vendors rep. I am guilty of rating 1/5 & blackmailing myself and only got a refund once out of that (all vendors I never bought from again). I don't do that anymore, it's pointless. All marketing in this business happens by word of mouth, i.e. in the forums, anyway. Losing a package sucks, but it's all in the game (Omar/Wire), you order - you are gambling. I used to think that losing a letter is really rare, it still is in EU, but it can indeed happen.
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To CapeCrusader, do you have any indication for what the prices are going to be on 5-10g+ orders?
5g: ~$100
10g: ~$170
These are approximate prices. They may vary when the listings go up.
Thanks
CC
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Maybe he got a refund? 50/50 split is standard procedure. You guys also need to take security in to account, BM admitted a fuckup but didn't fully explain what actually happened. His answers are sometimes vague. I can think of a ton of reasons why the exact circumstances should not be mentioned. Producing & selling the gear he does means prison for ?? a decade ??. Giving too much info out that could lead back to you VS giving a full explanation to unhappy customers is a no-brainer for me. If you want neat sounding explanations & stories go to MrFUK.
BM has always been good to me, product was always superb, even the waxy stuff before it had been washed. Shipping sometimes sucks, but I'd go with registered now. Btw is the waxy stuff sold out now? Everything white powder?
The 1/5 feedback-blackmail should only be done if you never want to buy from the vendor ever again. It's likely you won't get more and you do quite some damage to the vendors rep. I am guilty of rating 1/5 & blackmailing myself and only got a refund once out of that (all vendors I never bought from again). I don't do that anymore, it's pointless. All marketing in this business happens by word of mouth, i.e. in the forums, anyway. Losing a package sucks, but it's all in the game (Omar/Wire), you order - you are gambling. I used to think that losing a letter is really rare, it still is in EU, but it can indeed happen.
Have to agree with this. There are instances where letters do not arrive. Especially in countries such as Australia and Finland that have strict customs. Up until now i have given a 100% refund to everybody but i'm going to have to change this policy. Certain countries such as the above mentioned are going to have to split the risk with me. The only reason i've provided a 100% refund is to maintain my 100 rating. There are instances where i have been blackmailed into refunding or losing my 100 rating. For this reason i will also have to select my customers carefully. I suppose i will have to lose the 100 rating sooner or later.
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I sincerely hope everybody noticed my pointing out that I wasn't saying any failed order is cause for a poor rating. I agree completely, interception is out of the vendor's hands quite frequently and if it seems likely that they're being genuine about having sent it, they deserve at least half the payment.
... I just want to make sure I don't get misunderstood by the people I like to buy from. I made my statement above solely because of what apparently is dishonesty on the part of BoyMaster. I suggested the rating half as a joke, half because he promised to refund and then blew the guy (or girl) off. That's all.
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Maybe he got a refund? 50/50 split is standard procedure. You guys also need to take security in to account, BM admitted a fuckup but didn't fully explain what actually happened. His answers are sometimes vague. I can think of a ton of reasons why the exact circumstances should not be mentioned. Producing & selling the gear he does means prison for ?? a decade ??. Giving too much info out that could lead back to you VS giving a full explanation to unhappy customers is a no-brainer for me. If you want neat sounding explanations & stories go to MrFUK.
BM has always been good to me, product was always superb, even the waxy stuff before it had been washed. Shipping sometimes sucks, but I'd go with registered now. Btw is the waxy stuff sold out now? Everything white powder?
The 1/5 feedback-blackmail should only be done if you never want to buy from the vendor ever again. It's likely you won't get more and you do quite some damage to the vendors rep. I am guilty of rating 1/5 & blackmailing myself and only got a refund once out of that (all vendors I never bought from again). I don't do that anymore, it's pointless. All marketing in this business happens by word of mouth, i.e. in the forums, anyway. Losing a package sucks, but it's all in the game (Omar/Wire), you order - you are gambling. I used to think that losing a letter is really rare, it still is in EU, but it can indeed happen.
Have to agree with this. There are instances where letters do not arrive. Especially in countries such as Australia and Finland that have strict customs. Up until now i have given a 100% refund to everybody but i'm going to have to change this policy. Certain countries such as the above mentioned are going to have to split the risk with me. The only reason i've provided a 100% refund is to maintain my 100 rating. There are instances where i have been blackmailed into refunding or losing my 100 rating. For this reason i will also have to select my customers carefully. I suppose i will have to lose the 100 rating sooner or later.
I will buy from you whether you are rated 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98 or 99
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The history of BM's historic return are right here in these here pages. You just have to be patient enough to do the research.
I credit myself for bringing him out of obscurity by questioning the very things that have been questioned here. You know what happened? He started selling again.
And all us insufferable speed freaks could do was say, "Thank you Sir" because in the end, it's about getting our fix. Forget principles and fairness.
I spelled out the same concerns. Look back around the last week of December. I even credit myself for bringing BM out of the woodwork!
Though I badgered him. he held no grudge, and has delivered consistently, many grams to this speed freak.
Those questions were never answered, but like a car wreck, you keep on driving, thinking . "Better them than me"
The harsh realities of life.
I hope the problems all get's reconciled, but in reality? I don't give a fuck, as long as my speed arrives.
We gotta grow up boys and girls.
Doesn't that suck?
Peace
jagfug
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To CapeCrusader, do you have any indication for what the prices are going to be on 5-10g+ orders?
5g: ~$100
10g: ~$170
These are approximate prices. They may vary when the listings go up.
Thanks
CC
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These prices are unreal.
2 gram left of previous order, I'll manage another ~4 weeks on that. (new batch release + delivery time) 8)
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Yep, Grandpa jagfug likes his CD's !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hehe, I love buying CD's too. Planned on starting a vinyl collection some years ago but never happened..
Of course I download as well, I don't really care/notice the quality difference between mp3/wav or CD. I don't even have a stereo installation with fancy speakers so I doubt it's even possible to hear it :P
As for downloading usually I check out releases before deciding to buy them, or not :)
Sites like Bandcamp really made it easy to buy music (the sort I prefer) at good quality for a very, very fair price.
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Oh man don't even get me started. My "good stereo" is a Harmon Kardon w/JBL's all around. Back in the good years, before Bush/Obama screwed my country up. Now it's probably contraband!
Just listened to Rod Stewart's "Every Picture Tells a Story" followed my an obscure Todd Rundgren Album (latest Jap CD release) of A Wizard A True Star. - Very trippy and way ahead of it's time..
Now I have the Supreme's "Where Did Out Love Go" on. - I told you I was an old fuck.
Running low on speed. Had many family issues to deal with. But I'm still here,
Expecting 2gs of BM by weekend + Best Dutch set to arrive any day now ! ;D
Peace
jagfug
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The last time I've bought a CD was somewhere in 2000-2001 I think. Up until the rise of broadband internet/mp3, I used to spend all my money on buying music, 10-15 CD's a week was nothing exceptional. Good times, good times... .
That's also the last time I've paid for music (shame on me) but I keep telling myself that the money I spend on concerts/festivals nowadays make it alright somehow. And in some cases it does when you see those outrageous ticket prices. Yes, I'm looking at you Iron Maiden! 265€ for Iron Maiden + handful of shitty support acts. They aren't even that good anymore anno 2013 but I can't resist for old times sake.
What's up with this Best Dutch Drugs speed? I admit I was already pretty tired, but I bumped a medium-potent line in the car while we were driving home and later fell asleep in the couch not even 2hrs after intake. Not really what I expected from 80% purity... . Let's try again after being rested. I wonder if maybe one of the new medicines I started this morning are blocking the effects, although they're nothing special. Just some anti-inflammatory pills.
Also, the package from BDD is pretty lol-able. Funniest one I've received on SR.
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Just to update on BDD... I had my last bump at around 15:00 yesterday, but was up all night, eventually crashing this afternoon at 16:00. It was very pleasant overall, but would rather not have been up all night on a Monday! I'd say I peaked at around 20:00 to 21:00, then plateaued until the early hours.
I should probably add that I ate a handful of etizolam at midnight, about 5mg, but this just made me a bit wobbly and didn't help me sleep. I didn't take a lot of this speed at all, so I'm very confused to be honest. Maybe this is just really clean speed? It just didn't feel like any phet I've come across before.
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I guess the bottom line is compare it to BM CC and Holland Online, and tell where you think it falls. As BM once said, it's all dependent on so many variables. What "other" meds you took, what you ate that day. (If you ate at all) I'm currently called anorexic by my kids. At 6'1" I used to be 240 lbs, I'm now 165, and even I don't like the way I look. I go for days without eating. I get some compliments from all the women I wouldn't want int the 1st place. I'd rather be a little bulkier. I have no strength anymore. I had to drink Carnation Instant Breakfast today just to be able to stand up without getting a head rush.
I have very little speed for tomorrow, so maybe I'll eat then.
Take that whole "you gotta eat" seriously.
I feel like a shell of my former self.
Peace
jagfug
EDIT - We're about to hit page 300!
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I don't really have a problem with eating when I'm on speed, except on the first day after a break. Usually I have my 3 meals a day + some snacks, but I guess the increased heart rate speeds up metabolism. Not sure if it works that way. Like exercising while hanging in the couch, and still unhealthy. It's magic!!
I did lose weight though, according to people I don't see on a regular base. They can tell the difference in my face. We only have milligrams scales in this household so I have no clue on my weight lmao.
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That's a great quote at the bottom. Where's it from? Also your quote by your name on the same vein about death, why the fixation? Something happening or you're just realizing you're a mortal like the rest of us?
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That's a great quote at the bottom. Where's it from? Also your quote by your name on the same vein about death, why the fixation? Something happening or you're just realizing you're a mortal like the rest of us?
No worries, all is fine here. The quotes both come from the Misfits song "Dig up her bones". I stumbled upon an acoustic live version a couple days ago and was blown away for a moment realizing the true sentiment behind the song, even though it's a bit morbid.
That's the beauty with music and lyrics in Shakespeare's language as a none-native speaker. Sometimes you don't read between the lines even when it's right there waving at you and then after X-times of listening or reading you suddenly get it. Things like that can make my day, or my 15 minutes at least.
PS: Just to add some on topic stuff too hehe: Decided to do a key bump of BDD and now it did hit the right spot, but in a calm, relaxed, none-speedy way. Weird stuff, still not sure what to think of it.
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Wow! The Misfits! I saw them at a show where Johnny Thunders (my favorite) was scheduled to play. It was a good time though Johnny didn't show up till 1am at "The Downtown" It was worth it.I saw other bands too. Aren't you glad you were around for those days?
BTW my quote at the bottom comes from a Johnny Thunders interview!
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I think there are a few vendors that, whilst not beyond reproach, at least have a decent enough reputation that I'd take their word for it re: parcel interception.
Then there are guys like CC/BM who just don't do order's big enough to warrant any sort of scam. Given that the most you can order from them is 25g, for roughly $250-300, it just doesn't make sense for them to scam for such small amounts.
That being said, I do believe that the easiest way to overcome parcel interception related problems is not to order from countries that are known drug exporters. I will likely never order from NL. Whilst I'm sure there are several great dutch vendors, the increased risk merely due to the location its being mailed from is not worth it, especially given that none of them can give me what CC/BM can.
Man.... I really want ruthenium to come back so I can grab some pure dextro off him. Any chance of you guys(CC/BM) synthing dextro at some point?
A quick look at rhodium gives a few potential synths, but they all look a fair bit more complicated than the standard P2NP/mercury amalgum synth that I assume you 2 use.
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Greetings
I need some input from the forum members on here. How would you guys feel about an offer for example:
A 20% bonus if you FE. This offer would only be available to countries such as the USA, UK and netherlands where my packages have no problem getting through customs. The reason for this is that the quicker i can get a portion of the cash in the quicker i can get to work on a new batch which means less downtime between batches. It's really a win win situation.
So what do you guys think?
Thanks
CC
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Sure, CC. I'd probably FE for you. Not for more than 10g though -- I trust you, but let's be honest... people like to go out with a scam, and we all know it.
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I agree with SS, I'd FE for up to 10g. Maybe only 5g to start with though... Would you have separate listings for the 20% extra FE offer?
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I agree with SS, I'd FE for up to 10g. Maybe only 5g to start with though... Would you have separate listings for the 20% extra FE offer?
I would probably just ask those willing to FE to put a little note in along with their address so that i can add the extra amount. I will only be offering this to a handful of countries so if i were to turn scammer one month i'd really be shooting myself in the foot as i'd only make away with a few thousand or so dollars and lets be honest how many speed vendors are there shipping out of SA? I wouldn't be able to reincarnate myself and come back.. But i'll wait for more feedback before deciding..
Regards
CC
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Greetings
I need some input from the forum members on here. How would you guys feel about an offer for example:
A 20% bonus if you FE. This offer would only be available to countries such as the USA, UK and netherlands where my packages have no problem getting through customs. The reason for this is that the quicker i can get a portion of the cash in the quicker i can get to work on a new batch which means less downtime between batches. It's really a win win situation.
So what do you guys think?
Thanks
CC
hmmm, maybe I would FE for 2g or something
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??? Don't know what happened there. Let me try this again.
You know I would! Because I already did by mistake! I swore I hit the Tx# to verify the transaction, but wound up on the Finalazie screen with two orders I didn''t intend on FE. Oh well.. You had enough cred in here I wasn't worried. So count me in.
The best method I've seen is after your address, space down twice, and type (Agree to FE for 20% bonus). That way there's no confusion.
So put me on that list! Gotta remember to put money away in an envelope for the triumphant return of CC! (March 11th is it?)
Peace
jagfug
PS Hey! I made it onto page 300!
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Greetings
I need some input from the forum members on here. How would you guys feel about an offer for example:
A 20% bonus if you FE. This offer would only be available to countries such as the USA, UK and netherlands where my packages have no problem getting through customs. The reason for this is that the quicker i can get a portion of the cash in the quicker i can get to work on a new batch which means less downtime between batches. It's really a win win situation.
So what do you guys think?
Thanks
CC
Count me in if:
- 5g per order is enough. Not because of the scam potential or intercepting potential but more because of my personal Murphy's Law potential when I decide to FE.
- The list of included countries is expanded since I'm not a resident in any of the ones you mention :-). We'll see when the list is final. Not gonna cry over whether or not being able to take the offer.
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I realise there is roughly 0% chance of you including Australia in the list of countries, but I think its a decent idea if its explicitly short term. From my understanding, you are a chemist first and a businessman second(my understanding is admittedly not that great) so this is more like a small business owner to amsterdope/other big vendor's corporations. FE may help smaller vendor's with keeping the production line going, but in the end I don't think its in the best interest of the customerbase as a whole. The incentive you are giving is a nice go between.
Any word on my previous request of synthing dextro? ;)
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Just doing a interest check to see what type of market there is for a Domestic speed vendor. I import bulk amounts of pure dutch speed (72%+) from a private source. If there is a market for it and people believe my prices are fair, I would be willing to ship out samples. Test the product with a kit or lab as you wish. I am domestic and would only be able to ship within the states (sorry). Below I'll list my prices. If the vast majority people would prefer it in powder form, I can convert it, but, I would have to raise my prices a little.
I have plenty of product on hand. Let me know what you think of these prices. Would anyone be interested? Please leave feedback.
1g $30 usd
5g $125 usd
10g $225 usd
25g $525 usd
50g $975 usd
100g $1700 usd
Thanks
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Greetings
I need some input from the forum members on here. How would you guys feel about an offer for example:
A 20% bonus if you FE. This offer would only be available to countries such as the USA, UK and netherlands where my packages have no problem getting through customs. The reason for this is that the quicker i can get a portion of the cash in the quicker i can get to work on a new batch which means less downtime between batches. It's really a win win situation.
So what do you guys think?
Thanks
CC
I already decided I would be more disappointed if you left than if you scammed me. Plus at your fair prices and slow turn around, I think anything that helps you is a good thing. That is why I FE the last time with you, which I never do for anyone. It will be awesome to get an extra 20% this time around. Still put me down for 10 ;D ;D ;D
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Just doing a interest check to see what type of market there is for a Domestic speed vendor. I import bulk amounts of pure dutch speed (72%+) from a private source. If there is a market for it and people believe my prices are fair, I would be willing to ship out samples. Test the product with a kit or lab as you wish. I am domestic and would only be able to ship within the states (sorry). Below I'll list my prices. If the vast majority people would prefer it in powder form, I can convert it, but, I would have to raise my prices a little.
I have plenty of product on hand. Let me know what you think of these prices. Would anyone be interested? Please leave feedback.
1g $30 usd
5g $125 usd
10g $225 usd
25g $525 usd
50g $975 usd
100g $1700 usd
Thanks
So am I... blind, or do you not state what form it's currently in? Is it crystal or paste? You have to understand, there isn't any speed here in the states. I mean it's basically just unheard of. It's all meth, so your question is ambiguous.
Neither is very promising, frankly. Not to be rude, of course, but I prefer that people are frank with me, so I tend to give others the same respect. Is this 72% by Dutch standards (73% max purity of amphetamine sulfate, i.e. 98.6% converted) or by total standards, as in 72% out of a max 100%? If you say it's paste and it's 72% by dutch standards, you're lying. Period. It cannot be paste and be 98.6% pure. Whatever's making it paste has to be more than 1.4%, and whatever it is, it ain't amphetamine sulfate.
That said... yes, I would be a customer if it's up to snuff. That's a big if though.
As for pure dextroamphetamine sulfate, I can't speak for CC obviously, but I can relay what I've seen him say before: his initial foray into it as a test left him saying he'd be forced to charge possibly $80.00 per gram or more. So I think he's junked that idea.
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Hello people. I've been taking some time off since my dopamine reserves needed a few weeks to replenish. So been using l-phenylalanine and 5-htp (to counter serotonin downregulation from dopamine upreg).
Right now there forum is loading all weird for me in all text so a bit difficult to read.
Any good products lately? I ordered from maxhaveelar since no CC as it was dry 2g 31% labtested and hey, nobody can have as much caffeine cut as powerade right!.. but there was some delay and now I will be sent 4g paste isntead that will dry into 2g I assume.
Just holding my other bitcoins for when CC finish his batch.
I tried to order from hollandonline who refused to ship to my locale. which is ridiculous since i have perfect buying stats with 0% refund. Never had a single custom interception and I've been ordering stuff for almost a decade online (pharms, such as ritalin that is classified as bad as coke and illegal rc's 100s of times nevermind 22 successful transactions on SR..). Bit a pisstake really this vendor seems incredibly anal.
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@SS: $80/g doesn't seem too bad given that levoamphetamine is barely psychoactive, but rather, has more of a stimulant effect on the peripheral nervous system. For people who specifically want the brain high without the body high, dex is gunna be the best alternative, and only half the dosage is required.
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...nobody can have as much caffeine cut as powerade right!..
wtf, is that right? anyone else can confirm?
of course, I already read the lab-test-result, but maybe it was just a previous or a single batch?
what about his offer, which is announced as more than 50% purity?
can we trust this?
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...nobody can have as much caffeine cut as powerade right!..
wtf, is that right? anyone else can confirm?
of course, I already read the lab-test-result, but maybe it was just a previous or a single batch?
what about his offer, which is announced as more than 50% purity?
can we trust this?
I think he was being sarcastic, there has been way worse, but also way better stuff. Its all here: http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion/
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Hello people. I've been taking some time off since my dopamine reserves needed a few weeks to replenish. So been using l-phenylalanine and 5-htp (to counter serotonin downregulation from dopamine upreg).
Right now there forum is loading all weird for me in all text so a bit difficult to read.
probably your dopamine is still low
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Just to update on BDD... I had my last bump at around 15:00 yesterday, but was up all night, eventually crashing this afternoon at 16:00. It was very pleasant overall, but would rather not have been up all night on a Monday! I'd say I peaked at around 20:00 to 21:00, then plateaued until the early hours.
I should probably add that I ate a handful of etizolam at midnight, about 5mg, but this just made me a bit wobbly and didn't help me sleep. I didn't take a lot of this speed at all, so I'm very confused to be honest. Maybe this is just really clean speed? It just didn't feel like any phet I've come across before.
Lol.. this post made me laugh.. and thank you very much for this short review.
This has happened to me many times before... just took a little bit but the stuff is heavy so I couldn't sleep.. also took it in the afternoon. It's the reason why we sometimes snort it mixed.. so you can be less careful with it. We think it's still heavy when it's mixed, but we decided to discontinue selling our mixed speed. Customers should do this themselves if they want to make it less strong, so they'll be able to sleep.
We've also noticed that there are so many people that inject or smoke speed here, and we only recommend people do that with our pure speed.
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Just to update on BDD... I had my last bump at around 15:00 yesterday, but was up all night, eventually crashing this afternoon at 16:00. It was very pleasant overall, but would rather not have been up all night on a Monday! I'd say I peaked at around 20:00 to 21:00, then plateaued until the early hours.
I should probably add that I ate a handful of etizolam at midnight, about 5mg, but this just made me a bit wobbly and didn't help me sleep. I didn't take a lot of this speed at all, so I'm very confused to be honest. Maybe this is just really clean speed? It just didn't feel like any phet I've come across before.
Lol.. this post made me laugh.. and thank you very much for this short review.
This has happened to me many times before... just took a little bit but the stuff is heavy so I couldn't sleep.. also took it in the afternoon. It's the reason why we sometimes snort it mixed.. so you can be less careful with it. We think it's still heavy when it's mixed, but we decided to discontinue selling our mixed speed. Customers should do this themselves if they want to make it less strong, so they'll be able to sleep.
Firstly, thank you for the speed, BDD; reviews are included with my purchase, so that's not a problem! And I'm glad my anecdote kept you entertained as well!
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so it looks like we have another top-player in the amph-vendor-league with BDD...
maybe I´ll give his service a try soon, and check out his offered gear.
The only thing that worries me a little bit is that his service is headquarted in NL.
However, their vendor-page is made really professional, and looks pretty interesting...
Respect so far from me, we´ll see how things will come....
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Got mail! Two deliveries, same weight, both from Holland..one from BDD the other Hollandonline. Problems...which is which? one is fairly dry and the other a paste. Would hate to give a review on the wrong amp. =@)
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HO's is wet, BDD's is powder.
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Got mail! Two deliveries, same weight, both from Holland..one from BDD the other Hollandonline. Problems...which is which? one is fairly dry and the other a paste. Would hate to give a review on the wrong amp. =@)
congratulation - pls update with a review ;-)
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Thanks folks..I'll review soon as I try..
Just googled my forum name and my SR profile comes up on first line. Tried it with a couple of other names on SR forum, same result...bit of a worry..!
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Firstly, thank you for the speed, BDD; reviews are included with my purchase, so that's not a problem! And I'm glad my anecdote kept you entertained as well!
Yeah thank you, just what I needed to make a point in another thread. May I quote it on other places? :D
so it looks like we have another top-player in the amph-vendor-league with BDD...
maybe I´ll give his service a try soon, and check out his offered gear.
The only thing that worries me a little bit is that his service is headquarted in NL.
However, their vendor-page is made really professional, and looks pretty interesting...
Respect so far from me, we´ll see how things will come....
Thank you for your complements.. we certainly hope we will be in the future! We've sent out lots of letters the last couple of days to hard to ship countries, but we're still waiting to see for ourselves if the 'watched countries dilemma' is a valid concern. We keep hearing it from many people and other vendors which been a vendor for longer then us, so it's probably a concern.. and it does make sense for customs to double check high risk country's.
But I think not all vendors are equally prepared to get past customs from hard to ship country's, we know this since we've ordered from people ourselves in the past on another account while we didn't start as a vendor yet. For instance many vendors here still use vacuum sealing to hide the drugs smell, which isn't sufficient for longer transit times. We use smell proof material, which should be a must for packaging smelly speed, vacuum sealing is outdated. The smell proof material we use will most likely have a higher successful chance of arrival.
Got mail! Two deliveries, same weight, both from Holland..one from BDD the other Hollandonline. Problems...which is which? one is fairly dry and the other a paste. Would hate to give a review on the wrong amp. =@)
We always package our products in aluminum smell proof material, we don't know how many vendors do this but we know most of them vacuum seal their packages. Our speed smells way to much, vacuum sealing isn't effective to prevent the smell from slipping through. Especially when transit times are longer. We also shipped 90% + of our letters inside a double card, mostly with an nice image on it.. ;) We try to vary a lot, so there are no patterns.. but hopefully you'll be able to recognize it with this information.
HO's is wet, BDD's is powder.
Our speed is shipped when it's dry, ready for usage... it's definitely not wet.
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Just googled my forum name and my SR profile comes up on first line. Tried it with a couple of other names on SR forum, same result...bit of a worry..!
And that's why you google first, register nickname later ;D
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@BDD: without any karma so far...? ???
so the very 1st one comes from me, for your explanations ;)
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Just googled my forum name and my SR profile comes up on first line. Tried it with a couple of other names on SR forum, same result...bit of a worry..!
And that's why you google first, register nickname later ;D
no difference which order as far as I can tell. Every comment made Is available on google on normal Internet ...yours too ..Google is watching ..
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Howdy people
Received some speed from vendor Richthofen today and thought it deserved a review.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/e7d129252f
Customer service: 5/5 Answersed all questions quickly and comes across as being friendly and honest.
Packaging: 5/5 Nice discrete envelope that ticked all the right boxes for stealth. Shipping took 7 days from Spain to the Southern Hemisphere which is three times quicker than other vendors from the same region.
Product: 5/5 It's advertised as pink but its actually more of a tan color very similar to BM's batch from the second half of last year. It smells and tastes the same as well. It was very easy to rack up as its completely dry powder. I didn't weigh up doses but a couple of lines slightly longer and fatter than a match stick gave typical amphetamine effects.. Focus, euphoria and the feeling of wanting to socialise. It's definitely a reasonable strength.
I recommend giving him a go.. His prices are very good as well.
Mango
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This afternoon I went to the test center with a sample of Eric Cartman.
My girlfriend and I used this last week and we were impressed by the quality.
MAYBE next week we will know the results, but that is not for sure.
The man in the test center told me these tests were originally for ecstasy pills.
Later they expanded these tests to other drugs such as speed.
At present there are too many samples submitted and that touches their budget.
With other words it all depends of the money.
Next week we will know more.
Speedie
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Greetings
As some of you may know there is currently a big postal strike underway in my country. I am therefore forced to postpone the release of the new batch until further notice. I apologize for any inconvenience caused by this..
Best regards
CC
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That kinda sucks CC :(. Just ordered 5g from BM and was planning on ordering 5g from you as well when you restocked.
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Bummer indeed CC. Google says that there was a three month postal strike in your country last year. I sure hope it's not gonna take thát long this time :(
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Just want to give a heads up to anyone thinking of placing an international order with Powerade....think twice. Placed a 25g speed order with him to the US a month ago, and nothing. And there seem to be several of us in the same boat.
I've been a member here for well over a year, and yes...I knew the risk of FE with him. And I made the order knowing the risk. But I hope I can save others from making the same very expensive mistake, as it seems not to be an anomaly.
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@BDD: without any karma so far...? ???
so the very 1st one comes from me, for your explanations ;)
Thanks! Much appreciated.
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IS BM'S LATEST WAXY OR POWDER?? (not sorry for caps)
helhazz: you tried anything yet? BDD any good?
BDD "1gr The strongest SPEED you can get! +/- 80% Pure" acetone rinse resulted in a reduction of 37% percent which means his product should be somewhere around 63% purity.
at best, if I may add. Any other reviews of this gear on here?
Just doing a interest check to see what type of market there is for a Domestic speed vendor.
Hi, domestic, contrary to popular belief, does not mean USA-only. thx
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Just doing a interest check to see what type of market there is for a Domestic speed vendor.
Hi, domestic, contrary to popular belief, does not mean USA-only. thx
Haha, thanks for this.
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Hey SpeedFreaks,
how's going? I'm still on my break, having CC and BM sealed on my safety box ;)
Soon will be the time to open the doors again, and i'd like to check what's the current speed situation.
I read CC won't be able to delivery until further notice..BAD :(
BM is still on top? Even if waxy is not much hassle to wash it.
More interesting sellers above the average around? (Powerade is always still very good for average quality as I can read)
thanks for updating me ;)
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Just doing a interest check to see what type of market there is for a Domestic speed vendor. I import bulk amounts of pure dutch speed (72%+) from a private source. If there is a market for it and people believe my prices are fair, I would be willing to ship out samples. Test the product with a kit or lab as you wish. I am domestic and would only be able to ship within the states (sorry). Below I'll list my prices. If the vast majority people would prefer it in powder form, I can convert it, but, I would have to raise my prices a little.
I have plenty of product on hand. Let me know what you think of these prices. Would anyone be interested? Please leave feedback.
1g $30 usd
5g $125 usd
10g $225 usd
25g $525 usd
50g $975 usd
100g $1700 usd
Thanks
So am I... blind, or do you not state what form it's currently in? Is it crystal or paste? You have to understand, there isn't any speed here in the states. I mean it's basically just unheard of. It's all meth, so your question is ambiguous.
Neither is very promising, frankly. Not to be rude, of course, but I prefer that people are frank with me, so I tend to give others the same respect. Is this 72% by Dutch standards (73% max purity of amphetamine sulfate, i.e. 98.6% converted) or by total standards, as in 72% out of a max 100%? If you say it's paste and it's 72% by dutch standards, you're lying. Period. It cannot be paste and be 98.6% pure. Whatever's making it paste has to be more than 1.4%, and whatever it is, it ain't amphetamine sulfate.
That said... yes, I would be a customer if it's up to snuff. That's a big if though.
As for pure dextroamphetamine sulfate, I can't speak for CC obviously, but I can relay what I've seen him say before: his initial foray into it as a test left him saying he'd be forced to charge possibly $80.00 per gram or more. So I think he's junked that idea.
My guy told me "we say here max pure is 72%". And he get's it first hand from the cook. So that's the best answer I can give. I would rather hand out free samples and let people test. I would be willing to give you a free half gram sample if interested.
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Just doing a interest check to see what type of market there is for a Domestic speed vendor.
Hi, domestic, contrary to popular belief, does not mean USA-only. thx
Haha, thanks for this.
Yes, I should have said USA. Thanks.
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Rec'd BDD today as well.
Stealth - Excellent
8 days ti NE US - Excellent
White powder, with some crunchy chunks
Strongest? :-\ It took me a while to feel it, but my tolerance is high.
I used 100mg over a 12 hour period, I realize it's working. Not as strong as BM's. I don't get the fast rush when snorting.
Has a lighter effect. I sense the feeling of some caffeine, but only the tests will show for sure.
It didn't blow me away
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@ jagfug:
it didn´t blow you away? so you are not really satisfied with it as it is announced?
do you think it´s even cutted?
pls - just give an update how his stuff is doing his job so far,
as I´m thinkin´about givin´ his gear a try.
thx.
btw. have a nice weekend every1 ;-)
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@ jagfug:
it didn´t blow you away? so you are not really satisfied with it as it is announced?
do you think it´s even cutted?
dude. you are the one guy advertising this gear. 6DEE3CADA washed out 37%, so yes it is "cutted" (adulterated).
Newsflash: "PURE" in the listing's name doesn't mean it really is pure. More often than not it means exactly the opposite.
Will go for BM then, because there are no alternatives. Is his gear white or still yellow, slightly waxy now?
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It's 100% Dutch quality, guaranteed. Straight out of the lab.
Eighty percent pure is probably as pure as it can get, we've never seen higher.
100% Dutch quality... so it's cut with caffeine?! Reminder: all samples from NL but the cleaned amph from iti were cut with caffeine.
80% as pure as it can get, seriously? CC was pretty disappointed when his speed was tested at 81%. And I have seen higher, like daily from August to January.
Def waiting for labtest.
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@gasterwes: Any labtest result on the HO batch already?
Nope. Delayed (at least) one week. Last time it took 3 weeks also so I do expect a result this Friday.
Bad news for the people who are waiting for a proper lab test...
In The Netherlands the lab gives you a form with the number of the test, they have no further record of you ever being there. So the only way to get your test result is to call in on Friday (only Friday) between 14:30-16:30 and give them your number. I was at work yesterday and forgot left the test # in my other pants >:( Sorry guys one more week delay...
But we can still do a little math ourselves...
Of the two grams wet paste I received 1.6g were left after drying. I washed the 1.6g with dried acetone and was left with 0.6g.
Ps How comes you can search your SR username on google. Is there a copy of SR on the clearnet or something??
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Ps How comes you can search your SR username on google. Is there a copy of SR on the clearnet or something??
Not really a copy, but there is this website Onion.TO which allows anyone to access TOR sites from the clearnet. I think that site is some sort of proxy.
"How
Tor hidden Web services uses the top-level domain host suffix .onion, just like regular websites uses .com or .net. Usually a .onion-address can not be reached unless you have installed Tor and is using a specifically configured browser. But by simply appending .to at the end of an .onion-address, the request will be routed through Onion.TO and into the Tor network. For example, http://eqt5g4fuenphqinx.onion becomes http://eqt5g4fuenphqinx.onion.to."
I'm pretty sure this is the reason.
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BDD mentioned somewhere that his "less pure" stuff is cut with paracetamol. And since his pure stuff seems to be less pure than advertized, I'm assuming it contains paracetamol too.
When I snorted a larger quantity, the area around my nose and my upper gums/teeth got numb so this could be correct.
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I'm pretty sure this is the reason.
This is how they index the forum. The reason the googlebot actually does it, is that it isn't blocked from doing so. The forum-admins could do that, but if you look at how they tackled the spam problem it will probably take 3.1415 mio years for them to do so.
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Silk Road Chat: for shitz 'n giggles, or just if you can't sleep and feeling bored:
Download Pidgin or just use IRC client
HELLO CAMPERS
Right we've moved to IRC.
Of course it's still tor based and, actually, more secure - you'll also get a chance to register your nickname to stop idiots spoofing.
Obviously - when Nickserv says hello, don't use a password you've used before.
So Add a new account under "accounts" (in pidgin - right click tray icon - or go from buddy list window)
Protocol: IRC
Username: <x> (please dont call yourself <x>)
Server: silcroadg3c3mtu6.onion
Password - leave until you have registered with nickserv
Local Alias - Same as nick (Don't leave blank in case pidgin picks your hostname)
ADVANCED TAB
Port: 6667
Username: <x>
Realname: (I'm SHIRLEYBASSEY)
PROXY TAB:
Proxy Type: Tor/Privacy (Socks5)
Host: 127.0.0.1
Port: 9150
All done - now READ THIS BIT - READ IT - OR ILL KILL YOU OR SOMETHING
Join a channel you can make up so: /join #jruihuihf43 whatever - check your info (right click your name in pidgin).
Make sure your real hostname isn't showing. - Just dont miss anything from the instructions.
Main channel once all good:
#public
or type /join #public
you can register your nickname by typing /msg nickserv register <password>, just don't type your email like other irc servers require! if you do, it will set it to your password recovery phrase.
Tutorial For MAC users: http://x35jfacrznhhtrfr.onion/tutorials/mac/chat/ :)
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I'm pretty sure this is the reason.
This is how they index the forum. The reason the googlebot actually does it, is that it isn't blocked from doing so. The forum-admins could do that, but if you look at how they tackled the spam problem it will probably take 3.1415 mio years for them to do so.
It would take roughly 10 seconds editing the robot.txt file... So yeah, 3.1415mio years seems like a fairly accurate conversion :).(Unless crawlers work differently for darknet sites?)
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That may not do it. It's entirely possible that the Tor2web service (whatever that onion.to site calls itself) is something of a honey pot so that LE at least has some idea of how much volume is going through SR, etc.. My point though is that nothing says the onion.to proxy has to obey robots.txt -- they could literally ignore it and crawl the entire darkweb themselves, then not prevent Google from crawling their cache. That sort of thing.
It's a polite convention to obey robots.txt, not a divine decree or anything.
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Received 2 grams of HollandOnline's gear last week and will just give a short review,
￭ Delivery - Fast, it was dispatched the same day and I have received it the next day with domestic shipping.
￭ Weight - 2 grams of white and somewhat dry paste-like speed that after completely drying was about 1.6 gram of snort ready speed powder. (loss in weight is relatively high imo)
￭ Quality - Very nice stimulating euphoric effect. Only snorted it which is my preffered way of usage and my tolerance was very low but subjectively it was decent good quality, definitely potent stuff. It felt pretty clean, no bad sideffects. Have to say it didn't really burn but my nose was kind of sore after a couple of days. The powder seemed slightly corrosive, maybe somekind of solvent but I only snort really dry powder so there shoudn't be much if any of that left. I know this can happen from time to time with speed, probably not much a vendor can do something about. In terms of purity the last batch of HO was tested on 2013/01 at 57.5% amph so that is very good.
￭ Price - OK
Overall, I would say thumbs up for HO and keep up the good work.
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Look who's back :)
Placed an order with BM again, will update on the shipping process and the waxy-ness, if any.
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That may not do it. It's entirely possible that the Tor2web service (whatever that onion.to site calls itself) is something of a honey pot so that LE at least has some idea of how much volume is going through SR, etc.. My point though is that nothing says the onion.to proxy has to obey robots.txt -- they could literally ignore it and crawl the entire darkweb themselves, then not prevent Google from crawling their cache. That sort of thing.
It's a polite convention to obey robots.txt, not a divine decree or anything.
SR itself is indexed and put on the clearnet as sql-dumps. I imported some, it's pretty fun to play around and guess the vendor names (they are anonymised). The only thing the darknet is trying to achieve is anonymity not invisibility.
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Placed an order with BM again, will update on the shipping process and the waxy-ness, if any.
nice, dude - as I´m really curious and excited about your review.
actually I have to decide which gear I will give atry soon, BDD or BM.
So your input here is appreciated. Thx in advance.
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Received 2g from BM. Shipping was very quick and stealth great. The product is a yellow waxy product as descirbed by other. Chops up easily and is very smooth on the nose (well for speed anyway).
Funny thing is it is very similar in appearance and smell to a really good source of 2-fa I had. The effects ,however, were not the same. I think I actually prefer 2-fa hehe! That source has since disappeared unfort.
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I like experiments, so I though of this theory, which I'm not gonna try lol.
If speed, and probably many other drugs, leave your body by passing through the kidneys, liver and all that to finally end up in your urine.
Is it possible if, let's say, you drink your own urine, when you're speeding, you could keep on going forever and ever?
Flaws in the theory:
- I don't know if the stuff in urine is still active enough (it shows in urine samples so maybe it is).
- Urine will not only contain the drug but also other excretions, possibly unsuitable for re uptake?
- Wouldn't the strength decrease over time from passing through your organs time after time?
- The time it takes to leave your system is much longer than you feel the effects (this might be the biggest flaw)
- You have to drink your own piss.
Anyone tried yet or volunteers to?
P.S: (and not correlated to the above lol) Where's Jagfug hiding?
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Actually, I've wondered that myself Sham. About amphetamine and methamphetamine specifically. I believe, off the top of my head, that approximately 50% of methamphetamine is excreted unchanged into the urine; about 15% of amphetamine is as well.
So yes. If you're that desperate and that broke, you could make your meth last about twice as long by drinking your own urine. But even I've never been *that* desperate... extracting it might be possible, but I never bothered looking into it. Most drugs aren't excreted unchanged though, so it wouldn't do you much good to try putting what comes out back into you for the most part.
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I like experiments, so I though of this theory, which I'm not gonna try lol.
- You have to drink your own piss.
Anyone tried yet or volunteers to?
Watched a drug documentary yesterday and maybe if you give someone some scopolamine (burundanga) he or she might just do that if you ask it nicely... good luck. :)
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Some good news coming through..
The strike seems to be concentrated in another city, however this city also happens to be the central hub for all mail in the country. I've just had orders posted during the strike arrive in reasonable time..
I'm going to be placing 2 gram listings up on Wednesday to see what the transit times are.. If they arrive in the usual time i will go ahead and put up all listings..
Even if you're waiting on bigger listings you can still order 2 grams to top up in the mean time. I am making them very cheap at about $38 so it actually works out to less per gram than if you were ordering 5 gram packs. The main focus of these 2 gram listings are not profit but to get an idea of transit times hence the low price..
If all goes well i can have all my listings up in about 2 weeks..
Thanks
CC
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I received my order from CC today, clean and simple packaging. Has a slightly brown-ish tan, very much like my last order of BM's autumn-batch. It's also compressed due to vac-sealing, but no waxy-ness. If you chop up a piece of the compressed "disk" it decompresses astonishingly well. Looks pretty good so far, can only test in a couple of days though.
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Ahhh that's wonderful news CC :D
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BDD mentioned somewhere that his "less pure" stuff is cut with paracetamol. And since his pure stuff seems to be less pure than advertized, I'm assuming it contains paracetamol too.
When I snorted a larger quantity, the area around my nose and my upper gums/teeth got numb so this could be correct.
Sounds more like lidocaine since paracetamol shouldn't be locally numbing.
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BDD mentioned somewhere that his "less pure" stuff is cut with paracetamol. And since his pure stuff seems to be less pure than advertized, I'm assuming it contains paracetamol too.
When I snorted a larger quantity, the area around my nose and my upper gums/teeth got numb so this could be correct.
Sounds more like lidocaine since paracetamol shouldn't be locally numbing.
Has anybody made sure he realizes he's selling speed, not coke? I mean if he's cutting with a topical anesthetic... ::)
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I like experiments, so I though of this theory, which I'm not gonna try lol.
If speed, and probably many other drugs, leave your body by passing through the kidneys, liver and all that to finally end up in your urine.
Is it possible if, let's say, you drink your own urine, when you're speeding, you could keep on going forever and ever?
Flaws in the theory:
- I don't know if the stuff in urine is still active enough (it shows in urine samples so maybe it is).
- Urine will not only contain the drug but also other excretions, possibly unsuitable for re uptake?
- Wouldn't the strength decrease over time from passing through your organs time after time?
- The time it takes to leave your system is much longer than you feel the effects (this might be the biggest flaw)
- You have to drink your own piss.
Anyone tried yet or volunteers to?
P.S: (and not correlated to the above lol) Where's Jagfug hiding?
Sham - you're a pisser man~! ;)
Wasn't hiding. Had some weird computer issue, just resolved this morning (3am). Thanks for noticing. I was in a panic. It was payday, I've been going crazy!
Long story short I fixed it and I'm back!
Rec'd 2g BM yesterday. Solid wax, but then chops up nicely, and as the hours pass, whatever you've taken out to dry, becomes a nice powder.
Came in at 2.21g - out of the bag with residue still in bag! Way to go BM!. He's consistently "over", but never like this. Thank you BM ! . ;D
Very light odor, not harsh on the nose at all! I'm very impressed.
Don't be afraid of the "wax"! - It becomes a nice white powder, with very little effort.
Trying to bring down my tolerance. I would rather have a consistent supply. The depression I get the day after I stop is very dark.
Cheers to CC too for managing with his current dilemma.
I hope Bitinstant's back soon.
Peace
jagfug
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Actually, I've wondered that myself Sham. About amphetamine and methamphetamine specifically. I believe, off the top of my head, that approximately 50% of methamphetamine is excreted unchanged into the urine; about 15% of amphetamine is as well.
So yes. If you're that desperate and that broke, you could make your meth last about twice as long by drinking your own urine. But even I've never been *that* desperate... extracting it might be possible, but I never bothered looking into it. Most drugs aren't excreted unchanged though, so it wouldn't do you much good to try putting what comes out back into you for the most part.
I know someone that spent most of their adult life as a truck driver. They told me people would pick up the piss bottles truckers would throw out in the hopes of meth or amp remaining in the piss. Somehow extract the speed back out and either sell or use it. I always assumed he was joking for a good laugh. But, he always had such a serious look on his face when he told the story. Hmm... Who knows?
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Some good news coming through..
The strike seems to be concentrated in another city, however this city also happens to be the central hub for all mail in the country. I've just had orders posted during the strike arrive in reasonable time..
I'm going to be placing 2 gram listings up on Wednesday to see what the transit times are.. If they arrive in the usual time i will go ahead and put up all listings..
Even if you're waiting on bigger listings you can still order 2 grams to top up in the mean time. I am making them very cheap at about $38 so it actually works out to less per gram than if you were ordering 5 gram packs. The main focus of these 2 gram listings are not profit but to get an idea of transit times hence the low price..
If all goes well i can have all my listings up in about 2 weeks..
Thanks
CC
I'll definitely be picking up another few g when your listings go up. Cheers mate.
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Just my 2 cents on the BDD lidocaine possibility.
I noticed the numbing as well, just didn't want to accuse, but yeah, my throat was numbed out.
Hey, it's got to have a cut, right? A "carrying" agent (for us laymen)? - A little lidocaine helps the medicine go down~! ;)
Look at it this way. At least you know it wasn't laundry detergent. or . . . gulp! ??? - Nah! :P
Was good fucking speed!
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Just my 2 cents on the BDD lidocaine possibility.
I noticed the numbing as well, just didn't want to accuse, but yeah, my throat was numbed out.
Hey, it's got to have a cut, right? A "carrying" agent (for us laymen)? - A little lidocaine helps the medicine go down~! ;)
numbness is normal, but lidocaine is not uncommon. From the Merck index:
Sulfate, (C9H13N)2.H2SO4, Alentol, Benzedrine, Psychoton, Simpamina. Crystals. Slightly bitter taste followed by sensation of numbness.
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BDD mentioned somewhere that his "less pure" stuff is cut with paracetamol. And since his pure stuff seems to be less pure than advertized, I'm assuming it contains paracetamol too.
When I snorted a larger quantity, the area around my nose and my upper gums/teeth got numb so this could be correct.
Sounds more like lidocaine since paracetamol shouldn't be locally numbing.
We don't sell our mixed pure anymore, our uncut/unmixed speed is not cut with anything. Although we want to keep providing the best quality we can, the quality might sometimes be lower. This is due to the fact that not all speed is fabricated in high tech laboratories, so the conditions are not always perfect like for comparison legal medicine factories.
Offering two speed listings, one mixed (but still strong), and one unmixed (100% not mixed) was a mistake in the end. Because we snorted the mixed speed listing ourselves, we thought we would also offer that. We think the uncut speed is too strong sometimes, we don't always want to stay up all night. That's why we use the mixed speed, and that's why we also wanted to list that.
But also offering mixed speed (which was also clearly stated on the product page), which was more of a service from our perspective now leads to the incorrect assumption that our unmixed speed is mixed as well. Which is definitely not the case. In the end, the mixed speed listings only took more effort to create, and were not suitable for people that wanted to inject/snort it. Which it clearly said, but we didn't take into account that many people do this worldwide compared to the Netherlands were people only snort it.
When you want to smoke/inject speed you should only buy the most pure speed you can find. Our unmixed speed, the only listing we sell now, is suitable for all purposes.
We get our speed directly from the creator which also tests it, but we also want to offer the opportunity to send a few members here free 1gr speed samples on a two weekly/monthly basis for the purpose of testing it. This way you know what's in our speed from both the sellers and buyers perspective. We'll change the advertising accordingly to these results.
We want to make our listings as transparent as possible for you guys, safety is a top priority.
Reaction on the lidocain discussion: Our speed isn't mixed with anything we know of, although we've been very busy lately we decided to also test the new speed batches we get ourselves before we sent it out, this might delay orders but so be it, we don't want to ruin our name and it's also our responsibility to send good products. That's what makes this place so nice in the first place.
Once we ever find out that our unmixed speed got mixed, we'll have a good discussion with our soource... we don't tolerate it if this would happen.
P.s. First person that is able to test for us will be Paxous, we need two more... anybody else that has the ability to bring our speed to a testing center on at least a monthly basis?
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@BDD: Have you heard of anyone successfully smoking amphetamine? Be it yours or any other? I'm planning to try with some of BM's gear when it arrives after an acetone wash but from what I understand its extremely difficult to do.
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@BDD: Have you heard of anyone successfully smoking amphetamine? Be it yours or any other? I'm planning to try with some of BM's gear when it arrives after an acetone wash but from what I understand its extremely difficult to do.
No I've never heard or seen someone successfully smoke amphetamine. Yeah you should definitely do a acetone wash before you proceed smoking it. I've summed up the process from information I've found, which I'll repost for convenience if anyone's interested. Good luck with it and keep us updated, I'm curious about your results with washing and smoking it.
1. Put your speed into a flask, beaker or some other container you can heat on a stove (note: use a stove without a naked flame, as these volatile organic chemicals produce explosive vapours).
2. Pour acetone into the container so that the speed is completely submerged in it with a centimetre or 2 of excess liquid and swish it around to dissolve any soluble impurities.
3. Gently heat the acetone until it boils, and then take it off the heat.
4. Now slowly add (with an eyedropper or pipette) just enough alcohol for all the speed to dissolve - stirring gently until the speed dissolves. If you add too much alcohol you won't get as high a yield as possible so don't add too much.
5. Anything that doesn't dissolve is adulterant and should be separated out by filtration: use 2 coffee filters in a funnel to filter the solution, then cover it so a little air can escape and leave to cool to room temperature.
6. Once it has cooled down you should notice crystals starting to form.
7. Put the container in the fridge, and then the freezer to encourage more crystals to form (i.e., increasing the yield). The slower the solution cools, the larger the dry crystals will be.
8. Once the solution has been freezer cooled, filter the crystals out with some coffee filters, then wash the filtered out solid in the funnel with a few drops of alcohol and allow to dry.
9. Voila, you have pure speed.
Disclaimer: I'm not a expert at testing speed, please do some additional research yourself before you attempt to follow the steps above.
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I made a topic about smoking 'European' amphetamine a long time ago, but it'll answer your question
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=25053.msg266513
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Meth = hydrochloride
Speed (the one we're talking about here) = sulphate
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@BDD: Have you heard of anyone successfully smoking amphetamine? Be it yours or any other? I'm planning to try with some of BM's gear when it arrives after an acetone wash but from what I understand its extremely difficult to do.
No I've never heard or seen someone successfully smoke amphetamine. Yeah you should definitely do a acetone wash before you proceed smoking it. I've summed up the process from information I've found, which I'll repost for convenience if anyone's interested. Good luck with it and keep us updated, I'm curious about your results with washing and smoking it.
1. Put your speed into a flask, beaker or some other container you can heat on a stove (note: use a stove without a naked flame, as these volatile organic chemicals produce explosive vapours).
2. Pour acetone into the container so that the speed is completely submerged in it with a centimetre or 2 of excess liquid and swish it around to dissolve any soluble impurities.
3. Gently heat the acetone until it boils, and then take it off the heat.
4. Now slowly add (with an eyedropper or pipette) just enough alcohol for all the speed to dissolve - stirring gently until the speed dissolves. If you add too much alcohol you won't get as high a yield as possible so don't add too much.
5. Anything that doesn't dissolve is adulterant and should be separated out by filtration: use 2 coffee filters in a funnel to filter the solution, then cover it so a little air can escape and leave to cool to room temperature.
6. Once it has cooled down you should notice crystals starting to form.
7. Put the container in the fridge, and then the freezer to encourage more crystals to form (i.e., increasing the yield). The slower the solution cools, the larger the dry crystals will be.
8. Once the solution has been freezer cooled, filter the crystals out with some coffee filters, then wash the filtered out solid in the funnel with a few drops of alcohol and allow to dry.
9. Voila, you have pure speed.
Disclaimer: I'm not a expert at testing speed, please do some additional research yourself before you attempt to follow the steps above.
I wrote a similar guide a few pages back ;). If you are recommending this as a guide however, you may want to explicitly state the need for anhydrous acetone and how to procure it.(Baking magnesium sulfate, always having everything airtight and, if possible, in the freezer.)
Also, if you are going to the trouble to use 2 solvents, it may be better in the end to merely do an A/B extraction.
I've found that freeze precip works best with a master crystal. I take out the largest crystal from the initial freeze precip, then re-heat the solution to room temp, throw it back in the freezer for a few minutes, then put the crystal back in and keep in the freezer.
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I've found that freeze precip works best with a master crystal. I take out the largest crystal from the initial freeze precip, then re-heat the solution to room temp, throw it back in the freezer for a few minutes, then put the crystal back in and keep in the freezer.
Crystals form much more readily on the outer edge of other crystals. Or even the side of a container, for that matter. Or so I read; never tested it, but it does support your suggestion.
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asdasd
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I couldn't find much of any reviews on this one. I think it deserves a good review. I just got my order in a few days back.
I think its because he's Canadian and his page has a few type-o's on it (English isn't his first language) so it looks a bit sketchy.
ARIGOLO (Canada Vendor)
Speed Pills
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion.to/silkroad/item/a11636494e
SHIPPING:
- Ships only on Mondays.
- Great Stealth, could easily pass an inspection into the envelope
- No sounds or rattling, vacum sealed
- Professional labeling, looking great
- Arrived as expected
QUALITY:
- Press well, different presses (Angry Birds, Converse All stars)
- Snortable and good to snort too. No burn, a pleasure to snort
- Lasts about 8-10 hrs when eaten and about 4 hrs when snorted
- No side effects or anything strange, slow and easy comedown.
- Best speed pills I've ever had.
- MUCH better than the rectangle 'ice' speed pills from other vendors. About 4 times as potent.
- One pill can be crushed and snorted throughout the day and last a whole day and more. (Nice!)
- Feels like a mixture of different amphetamines and no caffine or other additives. (I can tell if there is any Ephedra or shit added. .)
- Eyes will become dilated if you take more than 2 of them (and you will be flying)
NOTES:
- I feel these are the best speed pills going on the road. They are better than 'speed paste' or wet speed because they are already pressed and ready to take with you on the road. Plus, they will blend into a candy container and look like candies/ mints in your pocket.
- Other speed pills I've tried let me with headaches and jittery feelings. Not these. No tummy problems either.
- Some tablets are 'hot' and seem more potent than others, but that's ok
- They seem to be as effective as Ritalin or Adderal for concentration and working. Makes a great ADD/ADHD medication substitute.
- I use them daily at different doses to keep me moving along. I don't find it much of a crash when I stop for a few days. Seems fine, but then I dont' tweak hard either..
- I find them better than coke. Similar buzz, but lasts a lot longer. Great for going out at night.
- Makes a coke buzz last soooo much longer, but not too safe to be mixing these together of course.
I think people are really overlooking this listing. This is a product that should be in every drug users little box of goodies. Keep these on hand for those days you can't get out of bed and you need that extra push. . . They are gentle enough to take and go to work. Unlike coke or molly, or RC's or whatever.
You could sell these for $10-$20. /each and double/triple your money, if you are into that thing.
As for me, I'll stock up and keep many in my cabinet for those days that I need a little boost or spring in my step. :-)
Thanks Arigolo!
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I don't know who you are, but I'm unlikely to take any advice you give merely because you are linking to a .onion.to site...
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Arigolo is deliberately 'overlooked' because he proved himself to be kinda of an asshole in this topic.
The pills are most likely (also) containing METHamphetamine.
Thereby, your 'review' looks suspiciously alot like an advertisement. ::)
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Thereby, your 'review' looks suspiciously alot like an advertisement. ::)
Your post looks suspiciously like an understatement ;). I think a shill would have to be fairly retarded to make a post this blatant, but I really can't think of any other explanation
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Arigolo started to advertise in this topic with a "buy my pills they are supergood" kind of attitude but he didn't had the slightest idea what the pills contain, not exactly a convincing entrance. That said, maybe the pills are indeed good and maybe he is an honest vendor I don't know. edit: and also really don't care personally not interested in those kind of pills.
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Hello, I am.
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We don't sell our mixed pure anymore, our uncut/unmixed speed is not cut with anything. Although we want to keep providing the best quality we can, the quality might sometimes be lower. This is due to the fact that not all speed is fabricated in high tech laboratories, so the conditions are not always perfect like for comparison legal medicine factories.
Offering two speed listings, one mixed (but still strong), and one unmixed (100% not mixed) was a mistake in the end. Because we snorted the mixed speed listing ourselves, we thought we would also offer that. We think the uncut speed is too strong sometimes, we don't always want to stay up all night. That's why we use the mixed speed, and that's why we also wanted to list that.
But also offering mixed speed (which was also clearly stated on the product page), which was more of a service from our perspective now leads to the incorrect assumption that our unmixed speed is mixed as well. Which is definitely not the case. In the end, the mixed speed listings only took more effort to create, and were not suitable for people that wanted to inject/snort it. Which it clearly said, but we didn't take into account that many people do this worldwide compared to the Netherlands were people only snort it.
When you want to smoke/inject speed you should only buy the most pure speed you can find. Our unmixed speed, the only listing we sell now, is suitable for all purposes.
We get our speed directly from the creator which also tests it, but we also want to offer the opportunity to send a few members here free 1gr speed samples on a two weekly/monthly basis for the purpose of testing it. This way you know what's in our speed from both the sellers and buyers perspective. We'll change the advertising accordingly to these results.
We want to make our listings as transparent as possible for you guys, safety is a top priority.
Reaction on the lidocain discussion: Our speed isn't mixed with anything we know of, although we've been very busy lately we decided to also test the new speed batches we get ourselves before we sent it out, this might delay orders but so be it, we don't want to ruin our name and it's also our responsibility to send good products. That's what makes this place so nice in the first place.
Once we ever find out that our unmixed speed got mixed, we'll have a good discussion with our soource... we don't tolerate it if this would happen.
P.s. First person that is able to test for us will be Paxous, we need two more... anybody else that has the ability to bring our speed to a testing center on at least a monthly basis?
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Holy smokes, I wanted to buy BTC in anticipation for CC putting stuff online.. but the price has risen to 36€/47$ for 1 BTC. That's crazy :P
If only I stuck to my plan back in april 2012 to buy ~200€ worth of BTC and let it rise in value.. ::) A bitcoin was only around 4€ at that time.
50 x 36€ = 1800€ :(
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GOGOGOGOG CAPTANE CRUDSADER
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Holy smokes, I wanted to buy BTC in anticipation for CC putting stuff online.. but the price has risen to 36€/47$ for 1 BTC. That's crazy :P
If only I stuck to my plan back in april 2012 to buy ~200€ worth of BTC and let it rise in value.. ::) A bitcoin was only around 4€ at that time.
50 x 36€ = 1800€ :(
It's great watching the amount of free drugs go up.
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Holy smokes, I wanted to buy BTC in anticipation for CC putting stuff online.. but the price has risen to 36€/47$ for 1 BTC. That's crazy :P
If only I stuck to my plan back in april 2012 to buy ~200€ worth of BTC and let it rise in value.. ::) A bitcoin was only around 4€ at that time.
50 x 36€ = 1800€ :(
It's great watching the amount of free drugs go up.
I can imagine 8)
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Anyone know if CC already sold out or did those listings not get put up today? I just bought $50 of BTC this morning in preparation...it came out to 1.2 BTC, fuuuuckkk I gotta spend this soon.
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Holy smokes, I wanted to buy BTC in anticipation for CC putting stuff online.. but the price has risen to 36€/47$ for 1 BTC. That's crazy :P
If only I stuck to my plan back in april 2012 to buy ~200€ worth of BTC and let it rise in value.. ::) A bitcoin was only around 4€ at that time.
50 x 36€ = 1800€ :(
It's great watching the amount of free drugs go up.
I can imagine 8)
My thoughts exactly..I'll never make a very good currency speculator
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I look at it the opposite way -- watching my accumulating money vanish and be replaced by drugs that'll be gone in a week. It's too bad I don't have more money... I'd be hoarding so many fucking bitcoins right now... Started buying them when they were 4-5 a piece. My buyer stats make me wanna cry :'( God I hate drugs... Someone hold me... LOL.
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Anyone know if CC already sold out or did those listings not get put up today? I just bought $50 of BTC this morning in preparation...it came out to 1.2 BTC, fuuuuckkk I gotta spend this soon.
Don't think they did.
I requested a small pre-order from CC a week ago for the same reasons (at a higher - though still fair - price, before anyone complains). I'm still slightly anxious about my remaining BTCs.
Anyway, the new batch is kick ass (and totally dry), as usual. It also has that classic speed aroma which I haven't smelled in ages.
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Just a quick post to say that I (finally) tried my foxcave sample last weekend. I had been sober for a few weeks and I hadn't been reading the other posts here about foxcave so my expectations were pretty high. Started with a 50mg line, which didn't nearly hit the spot for me so I redosed another 50mg about 20 minutes later. The gereral feeling was ok (not very euphoric or anything else in particular) but the product was in my opnion not nearly as strong as advertised. It also gave me a small nosebleed after my first line (which usually only happens to me after at least a day of speeding).
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My buyer stats make me wanna cry :'( God I hate drugs... Someone hold me... LOL.
I'll hold you if you hold me? :o
Especially the speed thing. How on earth could I handle a my heavy use a few years back... unbelievable.
I have 2g of BMs wax now. Holy cow ... tried monday 2 mini lines i.e. 20mg and wasted the night. Next day work. Finished early got home... Hey I have some speed .... jsut a lill bit... I am soo fucking stupid sometimes. Now I am at work again, maybe 1.8g left and my brain feels like mashed .....
I love this shit to death... maybe I should not mess with this substance anymore its so much mightier than me.
Take care
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Yeah check it out, i am sure you won't be dissapointed, i've been sitting here since thursday behind my PC, and i haven't used a whole lot.
The information you posted is interesting. Thanks for that.
I assume that when you say you're using, you mean you aren't washing it first?
no haven't washed it with acetone
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Apparently, Tuesday, some nasty bitch virus was looking for a new home and decided my body was the perfect spot!
I started to feel a bit weird in the evening and had to visit the bathroom a bit more often than usual. I was like, hm, maybe I need some time off da drugs again, maybe my immune system is a bit on the beaten up side.
After a "shitty night" I woke up in horrible agony, with the worst abdominal cramps ever and my stomach felt like someone was poking holes in in with little needles from the inside. Any little drop I drank or any little piece of food I ate came back out in tenfold and liquified.
At this point I wasn't even able to walk straight anymore so I thought maybe some medical help could bring relief. I called the doctor over, even though his office literally is right across the street, but no way I would go sit in the waiting room like this.
If you go to his office, you pay a standard 27€ fee, the house visit was almost 50€, greedy bastard, for just crossing the street.
Anyway, he prescribed me some meds and in the end they didn't help at all.
So another "shitty night" it was, maybe just slightly less uncomfortable then the night before.
2 hours ago, I was like, fuck this, and bumped some CC.
And guess who magically feels much better, and was even doing some little tasks here and there as far as my leg lets me (unfortunately, no CC in the world helps with that).
Moral of the story: don't waste money on doctors, use the money to buy drugs!
**Disclaimer: Don't blindly follow this advice as it can severely damage your health in some cases. :-)**
I love this shit to death... maybe I should not mess with this substance anymore its so much mightier than me.
I 100% agree with this, mess with it too much and feel it's wrath sooner or later.
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I received my speed from maxhavelaar yesterday.
Because I only use speed once every 2 to 3 months these days, i was not looking for superstrong speed when i ordered.
Max's listing for 2 grams of dried speed appealed to me cause he claimed it was 31% pure labtested with no other active cuts, if true exactly what i was looking for.
I like snorting my speed and i like snorting it every 2 to 3 hours, i'm not the type to swallow 30mg caps of pure amph, i want the oldschool experience.
After ordering he soon contacted me kindly asking if it was ok he sent 4gr wet paste instead of 2 dry, explaining he changed his packing method. I agreed.
-Packaging and delivery : 5/5
Fast delivery : Sent on monday in my mail on wednesday
Packaging is very good, completely normal looking standard letter fake return address included. Feels like a letter on the outside to, nothing would make you suspect anything more then paper was inside.
The speed was vac sealed of course, I couldnt smell a thing before opening.
-Communications : 5/5
He answers fast and friendly, was very forthcoming when i contacted him about my order being underweight**. Refunded me the missing weight in coins, before i even noticed his message about the refund.
He handled this very quick and satisfactory.
-Product 5/5 : Arrived as damp sticky paste but more dry then wet.
It has a bright white colour and the smell when i opened was typical and very strong.
The texture does seem to remain somewhat sticky and pasty despite me cutting and drying it more on a mirror. You cant cut a nice line with it, it all sticks together a tad to much.
The noseburn is pretty strong, same as the bad tasting drip (lovely! the nicest disgusting flavour in the world)
It is also a little more potent then i expected it would be, I believe his 31% claim.I Had stronger before but this is certainly not weak stuff either, unless your tolerance is through the roof this will get the job done more then ok.
In my body it produces a strong lovely dopamine rush, my mind is focused, my body feels pretty tense, a proper speed rush. I'm loving it...
Dont be blinded by all the 72% offers and claims, 31% is more then strong enough to get as fucked as you want, he claimed in the description this gear would impress more then expected. It does!! I'm pleasantly surprised :-)
Because he sells it as 31% pure i can give him the full 5/5, maybe stronger and purer excists but he doesn't claim his is anything more then it is.
**About the missing weight; he was gonna send 4 to get 2gr. After scraping the bag and a quick cut&dry it weighed in at 1.11.
I suspect he mistakenly only sent 2 so i was left with 1,11gr.
I know drying speed loses weight, about 50% i always estimated, the scale is new Ive not measured this yet.
I cant believe 4gr dries to 1.1, thats just to much imo. Max handled the issue lightning fast and forthcoming, handled it like a pro.
Despite the weight issue this was a smooth and satisfactory transaction in every department, Max will be my first goto guy from now on.
Recommended vendor and recommended product, Perfect for the more casual user (probably still strong enough to get the job done even for hardcore users) .
greetings,
sam
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Apparently, Tuesday, some nasty bitch virus was looking for a new home and decided my body was the perfect spot!
I started to feel a bit weird in the evening and had to visit the bathroom a bit more often than usual. I was like, hm, maybe I need some time off da drugs again, maybe my immune system is a bit on the beaten up side.
After a "shitty night" I woke up in horrible agony, with the worst abdominal cramps ever and my stomach felt like someone was poking holes in in with little needles from the inside. Any little drop I drank or any little piece of food I ate came back out in tenfold and liquified.
At this point I wasn't even able to walk straight anymore so I thought maybe some medical help could bring relief. I called the doctor over, even though his office literally is right across the street, but no way I would go sit in the waiting room like this.
If you go to his office, you pay a standard 27€ fee, the house visit was almost 50€, greedy bastard, for just crossing the street.
Anyway, he prescribed me some meds and in the end they didn't help at all.
So another "shitty night" it was, maybe just slightly less uncomfortable then the night before.
2 hours ago, I was like, fuck this, and bumped some CC.
And guess who magically feels much better, and was even doing some little tasks here and there as far as my leg lets me (unfortunately, no CC in the world helps with that).
Moral of the story: don't waste money on doctors, use the money to buy drugs!
**Disclaimer: Don't blindly follow this advice as it can severely damage your health in some cases. :-)**
I love this shit to death... maybe I should not mess with this substance anymore its so much mightier than me.
I 100% agree with this, mess with it too much and feel it's wrath sooner or later.
It actually sounds like you have (or had) a partial bowel obstruction. Amphetamines kick your sympathetic nervous system up a notch, as we all know; the part of interest though is that this includes directing blood flow away from your digestive tract and to the limbs and muscles so that they're ready to explode with powaa...!! You know, for stuff like running from big bad tigers.
That causes your intestinal tract to become more or less dormant. Amphetamines in general severely reduce motility (flow of food through your digestive system). If you keep shoveling it in and it's not really moving anywhere, it's gonna get clogged eventually.
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@SS
Hm, that makes sense. I did eat a massive amount of spaghetti the night before. I usually eat pretty normal amounts of food while speeding and I seem to have no problem with that.
Monday night however there was spaghetti on the menu which I didn't have for a long time and it being one of my favorite foods I ate an excessive amount of it.
Gonna keep this in mind!!
Thanks
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14 days and no BM delivery...a first on SR.Getting a bit worried...:-( .....and an extra minus 1 karma..wonder who that came from.Hmmmm?! I suppose I''ll just have to stop being so honest in case someone takes offence..and that's without any quality reviews...yet
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Greetings
Those 2 gram listings will go up now. Please remember this isn't the official release of the new batch. Any orders placed between now and Sunday will be shipped on Monday.
Best regards
CC
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Nice, if only SR let me connect.. :P
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I was actually F5'ing and snap ordered 8)
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14 days and no BM delivery...a first on SR.Getting a bit worried...:-( .....and an extra minus 1 karma..wonder who that came from.Hmmmm?! I suppose I''ll just have to stop being so honest in case someone takes offence..and that's without any quality reviews...yet
Fuck 'em, it just means you've got enough of a personality for some people to dislike it. On a side note, I fucking love CC's avatar. I so picture him that way :)
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Today I got the results from Eric Cartman's stuff.
What my girlfriend and I already thought this stuff I very pure.See my short review from last week.
The test result was 71% from the 73% max and no contamination's Absolute is this more then 97 %.
At the moment there are no listings from him an I can't get contact with him.
Speedie
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Wow that's impressive :) wonder why he has got that rating of 45..
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I rarely post in this thread, but monitor it often. I'm a regular customer of BM's, never tried CC's stuff. Fairly experienced with meth, but it's just too powerful for what I need. Anyhow, I tried BM's stuff over the summer to help with a crazy work schedule and have been using it ever since, with tolerance breaks of course. A couple matchstick bumps in the morning usually give me a nice kick that doesn't start to taper off till 3-4 pm. And sleep at night hasn't really been a problem.
Last week I tried a sample of the dutch speed paste from MrImporter. I had never had the paste before, based on the fact that it was all in the EU (mostly NL), and I read the quality reports were shit. But this guy offered a free sample and was domestic. I agreed, and i had a DCN within 12 hours or so. Pack got to me in 2 days (I'm in the midwest) sent well and stealthy enough. The paste was in a baggy, when I opened it up, the amp smell was overpowering!! The paste was completely unmanageable for the most part. So I tore open the bag and let it dry overnight. The next day, I found the volume had gone down maybe 25% or so (I dont have a scale) but it dried to a fluffy, easy to toot bright white powder. I've never been able to dry out BM's stuff to this level.
I racked up a line about the size of BM's stuff, maybe slightly smaller. Easy to snort, little burn, followed by an all too familiar drip :) Now I had been on a 3 day break from bm's stuff, and this dried paste gave me a good euphoric kick for the first hour or so, then a nice push of energy that lasted a good while. No jitters or anything for the most part. It didn't make my arms and legs feel heavy like bm's stuff sometimes does (not saying that's bad, just a little odd). Anyways, I have placed another order with MrImporter, his prices are pretty good and delivery times stateside should be fast. I'd say overall his paste is as good as BM's dried/waxy, plus you can't beat the price. I'll update when I receive my larger order.
Just my .02
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Hey everybody! What the hell has been up with the Forums??? Knomo, do you realize you're the first post since March 8th?
As far as Eric Cartman goes, he doesn't do US sales so nothing there for me to add.
I'm on a 3 day break, though expecting 3 different orders, 1st from BM, then from Max Havelaar, (I guess we could use MH for short?), and of course CC's which just shipped out Monday.
No news to add, really. Just glad forums are back up, and wanted to post something.
As usual those first two days without speed were rough. Though I did wean off a little more sensibly this time. Cutting my doses, and frequency.
Today, just a little H to celebrate a court case victory. So how's things out there in Speed land???
Peace
jagfug 8)
PS. @ fartsintthewind - think I'll give Mr Importer a try since US Vendors have been non-existent. Thanks for sharing your review. jag
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Nice to have everything up and rnnning again..10g .Delivery from BM has been 'lost in transit'.Been offered 50% refund. I suppose these things happen..
Still not able to try my stash from HoL or Best DD.but have given MaxH a .200 tester...Very smooth with nice body rush..I like a lot, and a lower priced alternative and third place contender with BM and CC. .Will update later when i have the chance to go for a party dose.
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Thanks for the review!!
I rarely post in this thread, but monitor it often. I'm a regular customer of BM's, never tried CC's stuff. Fairly experienced with meth, but it's just too powerful for what I need. Anyhow, I tried BM's stuff over the summer to help with a crazy work schedule and have been using it ever since, with tolerance breaks of course. A couple matchstick bumps in the morning usually give me a nice kick that doesn't start to taper off till 3-4 pm. And sleep at night hasn't really been a problem.
Last week I tried a sample of the dutch speed paste from MrImporter. I had never had the paste before, based on the fact that it was all in the EU (mostly NL), and I read the quality reports were shit. But this guy offered a free sample and was domestic. I agreed, and i had a DCN within 12 hours or so. Pack got to me in 2 days (I'm in the midwest) sent well and stealthy enough. The paste was in a baggy, when I opened it up, the amp smell was overpowering!! The paste was completely unmanageable for the most part. So I tore open the bag and let it dry overnight. The next day, I found the volume had gone down maybe 25% or so (I dont have a scale) but it dried to a fluffy, easy to toot bright white powder. I've never been able to dry out BM's stuff to this level.
I racked up a line about the size of BM's stuff, maybe slightly smaller. Easy to snort, little burn, followed by an all too familiar drip :) Now I had been on a 3 day break from bm's stuff, and this dried paste gave me a good euphoric kick for the first hour or so, then a nice push of energy that lasted a good while. No jitters or anything for the most part. It didn't make my arms and legs feel heavy like bm's stuff sometimes does (not saying that's bad, just a little odd). Anyways, I have placed another order with MrImporter, his prices are pretty good and delivery times stateside should be fast. I'd say overall his paste is as good as BM's dried/waxy, plus you can't beat the price. I'll update when I receive my larger order.
Just my .02
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Hey speedheads,
waiting for CC to come back, and BM on the way, i still need to order some speed with good quality/price (like the Powerade gear, but I didn't see him around lately).
There is a good seller at the moment shipping from Germany?
otherwise I'll try my lucky with Jürgen..but didn't hear nothing about his new polish speed batch.
thanks!
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I had 2g of BM arrive quickly. I'm not really into speed, havn't tried any in roughly 8 years so had no tolerance. I parachuted .04 at 7am. By 8am I was packed for anything a random roadtrip could throw at me - no idea where I was even going exactly but had to go somewhere. Entire day was a bit on edge. Very good speedy. I eyeballed another .04 at about 3pm and started dropping MDMA at about 10pm... Probably took 200mg over 4 hours. Too much. Too much. Was pretty stupid of me but slept no worries by 6:30.
Not sure what to do with the rest... Was interesting but far from my drug of choice. Guess I'll stash it and try low doses for study or somethin Thanks BM!
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Just waiting around for CC again, maxhavelaar has caffeine free speed but I'm waiting for something to resolve before I can comment fully.. It seems I really burnt my dopamine out. I've been using l-phenylalanine and a bit of 5-htp to make sure I don't get serotonin downregulated too much.
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Just waiting around for CC again, maxhavelaar has caffeine free speed but I'm waiting for something to resolve before I can comment fully.. It seems I really burnt my dopamine out. I've been using l-phenylalanine and a bit of 5-htp to make sure I don't get serotonin downregulated too much.
I'm not sure how you'd end up with serotonin downregulating from amphetamine. Methamphetamine, maybe, sure; but amphetamine is really pretty weak with respect to serotonin. I've also been binging on amphetamine for years and I don't know what you might be talking about.
My tolerance is off the charts these days... but other than that, I don't know what you mean. I'd seriously consider looking at other possibilities than serotonin downregulation and dopamine neurotoxicity. Don't forget that all this stuff is hopelessly complex. Researchers don't even understand it, and the stuff that trickles down for us laymen is so dumbed down it's almost not even correct anymore.
You may wonder how as a layman I know that. It's because I've studied neuroscience but didn't pursue it, and what little I learned taught me that nobody without a PhD has any idea what the fuck these things mean or do. For example, there's dozens of different dopamine receptors all with their own affinities. There are even dopamine receptors in your intestines. So exactly which of these do you suspect is the problem?
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@ohnoes123: I had the same problem too. I suggest you to take the following (at least this worked for me)
- Omega 3
- Vitamin B complex
- L-tyrosine
I took 5-HTP as well, but after some researches, I found out it's not a good thing - for sure if you lack seratonine (so lot of mdma usage), but it's consuming your dopamine as well to produce seratonine, therefore it's not suggested if you need to raise dopamine faster.
And, of course, best way to raise dopamine again it's a (long) break. I did 2 months clean for that purpose.
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@SS- Whoa boy! (as one might say to a horse to slow/calm down.) I think we're all a little "touchy" when our tolerance goes up, and our speed stock, goes down.
@Ohnoes123, I think a lot of us can relate, even SS, though he seemed annoyed with the comment, I believe all of us can relate to that feeling.
I'm going through the same thing. Having binged, and spoiled myself in February, having some extra cash, I bought up everything, like a drunken sailor in port.
Now I'm paying the price. - I say, if you have a little knowledge, and you know the supplement isn't bad for you. Take it~! If you think it helps. Sometimes it's the placebo effect. You think it will work,
so it does!
I've been on a now 6 day break from speed. That's not willpower, I ran out. :'(
I'm expecting 2 orders any day now.
At least with this break, I've bulked on almost 10 pounds of weight I sorely needed. So there's some positives to this forced break I'm in. - There's no way my tolerance went down. That takes time
Just jumping in to say I can identify. It's frustrating, but it's nice to have a few familiar personalities on here to go through it with.
Personally, I'm a moody little bitch without it. At least I realize it more now than I used to. So maybe there's some personal growth there? ???
I'll take what I can get. - Hang in there guys!
Peace
jagfug
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I did seem annoyed, didn't I. Sorry about that, I really didn't mean to. Been going through some stuff lately; it's really doing a number on my friendly nature... all I really meant is that I think you're mistaken, and whatever you're referring to is caused by something other than fucking up your dopamine neuroreceptors semi-permanently.
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@gasterwes: Any labtest result on the HO batch already?
Nope. Delayed (at least) one week. Last time it took 3 weeks also so I do expect a result this Friday.
Bad news for the people who are waiting for a proper lab test...
In The Netherlands the lab gives you a form with the number of the test, they have no further record of you ever being there. So the only way to get your test result is to call in on Friday (only Friday) between 14:30-16:30 and give them your number. I was at work yesterday and forgot left the test # in my other pants >:( Sorry guys one more week delay...
But we can still do a little math ourselves...
Of the two grams wet paste I received 1.6g were left after drying. I washed the 1.6g with dried acetone and was left with 0.6g.
Ps How comes you can search your SR username on google. Is there a copy of SR on the clearnet or something??
I activated my brain a little and actually remembered to call in for the test result of HollandOnline's gear.
Result is 39% amphetamine 38% caffeine. This is the Dutch way of measuring, no cheating ;) Almost exactly the same as PremiumDutch. Seems not only the usernames look alike.
Just shows I really fucked up the acetone wash... I wonder what went wrong... I dried the acetone with magnesium sulphate and all...
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@gasterwes: Any labtest result on the HO batch already?
Nope. Delayed (at least) one week. Last time it took 3 weeks also so I do expect a result this Friday.
Bad news for the people who are waiting for a proper lab test...
In The Netherlands the lab gives you a form with the number of the test, they have no further record of you ever being there. So the only way to get your test result is to call in on Friday (only Friday) between 14:30-16:30 and give them your number. I was at work yesterday and forgot left the test # in my other pants >:( Sorry guys one more week delay...
But we can still do a little math ourselves...
Of the two grams wet paste I received 1.6g were left after drying. I washed the 1.6g with dried acetone and was left with 0.6g.
Ps How comes you can search your SR username on google. Is there a copy of SR on the clearnet or something??
I activated my brain a little and actually remembered to call in for the test result of HollandOnline's gear.
Result is 39% amphetamine 38% caffeine. This is the Dutch way of measuring, no cheating ;) Almost exactly the same as PremiumDutch. Seems not only the usernames look alike.
Just shows I really fucked up the acetone wash... I wonder what went wrong... I dried the acetone with magnesium sulphate and all...
feedback on HO's speed: i've already received two orders from HO in the past. first time were 10g, product was pretty wet but also overweight - quality is decent, for sure not the purest you can get but good average speed to a great price. stuff gets a bit yellowish when dried:)
my second order arrived two days ago (110g arranged with seller because of weight loss), again pretty wet, but also about 20g short (not dried). quality is the same as last time, but quantity is less.. just a note: i have a very good lab scale (mg's) so thats not the problem and last time i used the same scale and it was overweighted.
HO is a great guy to deal with, hopefully we can find any resolution or maybe some extra on my next bulk;)
about quality: i didn't have possibility to do a lab test atm, maybe in a couple of weeks i could get some lab results.
gasterwes: about 40% is also what i expected - decent quality speed for a good price!
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I also was very satisfied with Holland Online's service and product. - I'm wondering now if that was the "perfumy one"? - I had ordered from so many last month, I was on a real tear.
Ironically, the same day I received from HO, I got another envelope almost identical in every way, except for return address, and there was no speed in it. Guess what it was?
The infamous " Love letter" in an envelope from the very same city, with the exact same stamps/ (Customs seizure). It wasn't HO's, but I may have "spooked" them, by telling them about it.
Not too smart in hindsight, but I kind of felt it was a credit to them, that theirs wasn't seized, and this other one was. - Though I think it was just luck of the draw. Otherwise they both would've
been seized at the US border. Being that they both arrived the same day, tells me, the one that did get seized was mailed a day or two earlier, processed at a customs office in Chicago of
all places! - Obama's pals maybe?
Anyway that one was actually MH. whom I'm expecting a reship from any day now! I really hope for both of ours sake that this one isn't intercepted. He's stepped up his stealth, so we'll see.
If it doesn't make it, or I get the dreaded "love letter" again, I wouldn't blame him for changing his listings to (everywhere BUT USA). -
Well I hope for the best!
I DID get MR Importer's 1g I ordered as a "tester". It came quite wet as paste should. Has the right smell, and consistency.. I'm on day 3 w/o sleep from BM's batch, so I'll wait till I crash, and get some
sleep, to try this new American Vendor's speed. Some or you may recall he was asking if there was a demand for "domestic" speed vendors. To which a lot of you pointed out (and rightly so) that we're not all in the US here! So do you mean domestic US???-...LOL
Well that's what he meant. I'm pretty sure us Yanks are in the minority on here. At least on this forum anyway.
Will update with quality late tonight, OR Sunday morning.
Peace y'all 8)
jagfug
CC's should be coming next week by Wed I estimate, based on last months time. - That means it's time to place more orders! Well, I'm taking a hot shower, and hopefully knocking myself out with some benzos.
Later!
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Just came back from a rave, did it with MaxHavelaar's speed for the first time.
Snorted about 100mg prior to the party and bombed ~250mg when I entered.
Now it's 8-9hours later, the party has ended I'm back home now and feeling a little bit sleepy. Not sure if I can catch sleep, gonna try it tho :P
Quick verdict: good speed; definitely good stuff when you look at the price. :)
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Anybody about AfterHours ?
And do you know when CC's listings will be up?
Thx,
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Anybody about AfterHours ?
And do you know when CC's listings will be up?
Thx,
I talked to Irish vendor TheJolllyRoger about AfterHour's speed and he loves it.. It reeks of that familiar amp smell and in his opinion was close to advertised strength.
Also I've got some of HappyTimezz 70% in transit. Will update once consumed.
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any of you guys had any experience with PROLINE
preferably to Aus?
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I have two boring candidates here: latest BM and latest CC.
BM is still waxy, gives as awesome of a first high as ever. But if you drag it on you will get intense bodyload, high bloodpressure, etc. Gets better when washed, but that is not what's sold. Washed and on weight, he would be the king still, but the waxyness gets annoying by now and I don't even get extra anymore to make up for it. (BM: next time I want double extra!!). It's still my favorite for that first high.
From CC I got a preview of the 10g packs, slightly yellow to brown, a bit sticky, but not too much. Burns when snorting, it's unbelievable, had to wash my throat with medical mouthwash just to get rid of the coughing sensation. I washed it with ethanol, used a tea-filter and lost quite a bit of product in the process. Some yellow washed out (5% ?) and the ethanol already contained some fine powder. since I had no coffee filter I left it like that, not much of a change, but in the snorting department it got definitely better (maybe totally subjective and for me no issue at all - barely snort). CC still gives a very smooth overall high, you'll stay up for days on end without even noticing. Note as intense at coming up, but no bodyload later on either. Perfect gear for working, getting stuff done. BM gives slight brainfog after some time. Overall very happy with this batch. None of the issues I had with the sour batch were present this time, will definitely stock up again once available.
I like to start with BM and then switch over to CC, for me it works pretty well and reduces thebodyload quite a bit.
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I am sorry guys, I got tangled up in other activities. I will catch up with the thread asap and update the labtest results page.
In the meanwhile PineappleLove has provided cocaine laboratory test results. Please have a look http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion.
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So I'd like to try speed for the first time, who should I go with, Proline or BoyMaster ?
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Chil, definitely go for BM. Just start low with the dosage.
I don't know if there are others reviews of Proline, but when I tried it 3 months a go I was really not impressed, and a lot of coffeine. Maybe now he got a new batch, in case please update my feedback.
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Proline's feedback is stellar, has some rave reviews.
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I can also say do not use Proline. It is very heavily cut with caffeine. I needed 250mg of it, and I got caffeine jitters as well). usually, 50 - 100mg of speed is plenty for me (I have low tolerance and am only an occassional user).
Also, if anyone gets caffeinated speed, try acetone washing it. I had to do this for prolines speed. 5gm dried out to 4.2gm, then acetone wash left me with 0.8gm very high purity speed. After this, I only needed 50-70mg for a good speed session :)
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I am sorry guys, I got tangled up in other activities. I will catch up with the thread asap and update the labtest results page.
In the meanwhile PineappleLove has provided cocaine laboratory test results. Please have a look http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion.
Though this isn't the coke thread, I'd rather have caffeine mixed in it, than Levimasole. Shit, I'd rather snort MSG!!! - Not a big fan of the whole immune system depletion/flesh eating bacteria acquiring thing.
Mr Importer's speed is good. If we were to use a 5 star system, I'd give it a 3 1/2. That's after doing a 3 day BM binge. So far nothing tops BM for me. I separated my 2G order from BM and tucked 1.2g into a CD case, to keep myself from doing it. (@ SS- I didn't have any 8-Tracks handy ;) ) - Now I can't find the damned thing! Thankfully Mr Importer came through. I was forced to do JUST that for the day.
I cleaned my entire room, which had boxes of unsorted stuff that usually happens when I'm off speed, and I can't sort bills out and such. Got a nice clean room, but still can't find the CD!
I'm pretty sure I'm the only Todd Rundgren fan in a 10 mile radius. I must've put it in a really 'stealth' hiding place. - So good that even I can't find it.
On the plus side I did find a 1/4 g of H which I forgot I even had. So that was a little serendipity to end the night, and crash from Mr Importer's stuff.
So good night lads.
Oh and a belated Happy St Patricks Day to you all.
Erin Go Bragh!
jagfug
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My BM order came through in the nick of time. Sober weekend was definitely no fun though :(.
I got the yellow waxy stuff, seems the real deal.
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How the hell are you guys able to snort that acetone washed stuff? I've tried it a few times and it's way, waaaaay too dry and powdery! Flies straight to my throat and makes me coughing my lungs out. I'm pretty much forced to mix it in a drink or something.
I am sorry guys, I got tangled up in other activities. I will catch up with the thread asap and update the labtest results page.
In the meanwhile PineappleLove has provided cocaine laboratory test results. Please have a look http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion.
Makes me a sad panda! Still waiting for the Best Dutch Drugs test result. I wanna know what it is cut with before using it again.
He said it's paracetamol but I've read here somewhere that paracetamol doesn't have any numbing effects.
So as some sort of test I crushed some painkiller pill containing mostly paracetamol and snorted a tiny bit of it and the feeling isn't alike at all. Only left me sneezing and a stuffed nose afterwards.
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@jagfug: Yeah I can imagine that active cuts are really a pain in the ass. Cafeine is bad, but vutting with levamisole is simply ridiculous.
I have plugged 50mg Boymasters 2013/02 batch yesterday. After 40m I experienced muscle relaxation, general feeling of well-being and a focus and vision improvement. No increase of euphoria though, but the dose is probably to low for that. Since the administration I haven't slept for over 24h. This was certainly not my intention and I feel like I have already crossed the line. I am only interested in functional usage so I already went overboard apparently.
It really, really strikes me about how subtle the effects are but how long lasting they become. Next time I will decrease the dosage. All things being said, I respond really well to this product. Unfortunately I have no experience with amphetamines and my tolerance is non-existent, so I cannot make an extensive comparison like you guys. Well besides 80mg Evilution a few weeks ago from which I did not feel anything.
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I am sorry guys, I got tangled up in other activities. I will catch up with the thread asap and update the labtest results page.
In the meanwhile PineappleLove has provided cocaine laboratory test results. Please have a look http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion.
Though this isn't the coke thread, I'd rather have caffeine mixed in it, than Levimasole. Shit, I'd rather snort MSG!!! - Not a big fan of the whole immune system depletion/flesh eating bacteria acquiring thing.
Haha, amen to that sir!
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I'm a plugging fan too lately. When I was first reading up about it, I wasn't immediately sold on the idea for a few reasons.
1. The syringe method (without needle obviously) still feels uncomfortable because I can't relax. (I'm so tight baby lol)
2. The capsule method is too much of a hassle to get in without damaging the capsule since...yup, I'm so tight baby.
So I came up with a marvelous idea!!
They make these suppository medicines for babies and they have an ideal shape (the suppos, not the babies). So my first plan was to scrape a bit of it out and refill it with other yummies. This works ok but didn't feel professional at all. Plus, it still contains medicine (in very low baby doses, but still).
After some thinking and reading I've found the solution.
I modeled the shape of a suppo out of wax, and where the flat side side (the part that goes in last) I attached a thin tube of wax, kinda has the diameter of a cell phone charger-cable. I then made 3 more suppos and 3 more tubes, combining them all into a main tube with a slightly bigger diameter, kinda like this:
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Grab a wooden cigar box or something and fill it with heat resistant plaster and gently press the wax halfway construction in the plaster. Flat, not straight up.
Wait for it to harden out, and spray it with oven cleaner or anything else for removing grease. This is needed to lay a film, so it doesn't stick.
Next, grab the wooden box again but remove the bottom and the lit and put it on top 1st half and fill it with plaster and wait for hardening.
Now you have 2 separable halfs. Press them together with a mini-table bench vise (can't have plastic parts) and put it in the oven and let all the wax melt out. Let it cool down and check your molding tool of awesomeness for any leftover wax and check the shape.
Next I put some glycerine (or cacao butter if no glycerine available, look in your wife's/gf beauty case, it's a beauty product) in a pan and mix it with some speedies. No need for a stove, just do it Au-bain-Marie. This means, putting your pan inside of another pan filled with hot water.
Grab your suppo-maker, make sure to spray both half with anti-grease (again, just kitchen things with soap, not heavy duty chemical stuff) and tightly close them with the mini bench vise. Now, place the suppo-maker in a bucket and make sure it can't move around (this might not be necessary, but I stuff it up anyway so it's secure inside the bucket).
Ok, next, gently pour the mixture into the hole that was left from the main-waxtube. Now, swing the bucket around like a madmad so the mixture can reach everywhere. If you did it well, nothing can spill from the sides.
Let it cool down, open up the 2 half and enjoy your 4 speedy-suppos. If you work precisely you can reuse the moulding thing many times.
Feel it travel up your ass swiftly and painless and enjoy the speedyness! And don't fart, and you WILL have the urge, especially if you've used cacao butter!
Done
PS: this seems like a lot of work, but all in all it took me less than an hour to make (this does not include waiting/thinking times)
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Haha Shamiroqai you made me laugh! I have to look up some words you used, to get a better understanding. :D
You can also just put your stuff in a capsule. Add some water and close it up. Put it in the freezer and after a while peel off the gel capsule.
The finished product is ready to go in a drink or in the backdoor! :D
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Haha Shamiroqai you made me laugh! I have to look up some words you used, to get a better understanding. :D
You can also just put your stuff in a capsule. Add some water and close it up. Put it in the freezer and after a while peel off the gel capsule.
The finished product is ready to go in a drink or in the backdoor! :D
Wtf, why didn't I think of that lol. Pure genius.
But oh well, at least I've had a fun Saturday afternoon reading and building it.
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Haha Shamiroqai you made me laugh! I have to look up some words you used, to get a better understanding. :D
You can also just put your stuff in a capsule. Add some water and close it up. Put it in the freezer and after a while peel off the gel capsule.
The finished product is ready to go in a drink or in the backdoor! :D
awesome got to try that after my break - probably even feels good ::)
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@BM/CC: Please do a final acetone wash before stocking to ship. I love you guys and the product is by far the best I can get both on and off the road short of synthing myself, but so far 3/3 orders have been yellowish waxy substance that, whilst I don't doubt it being 90%+ purity, makes me a lil sad that I don't get that white powder/crystal kinda thing that people expect when someone refers to a "pure" substance ;D. Acetone wash takes fk all effort and the difference both in appearance, and ease of use(insufflation) is just so worthwhile!
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got free samples 1gram of high grade speed (0.1 btc) for anyone who wants to try..
greets frank m
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got free samples 1gram of high grade speed (0.1 btc) for anyone who wants to try..
greets frank m
Hey Frank! Remember me? - Frank is a great Vendor, and tried a reship on me after a no show, and still nothing, a while back. That's why it says "Worldwide except USA" sadly :'( I don't get to participate, but I don't blame him.) The Netherlands are still a problem getting mail parcels to US. Though Max Havelaar just did a reship with improved stealth, after a "love letter" from US customs. It just came today. As well as CC's 2g order, ***CC took exactly one week - Monday to Monday to reach US!!- That's gotta be some sort of record!!!
Max's improved stealth method looks like it was opened and sealed shut with staples, so they missed it, very clever packaging . Just dried some out. Tried a little bit of both today.
This time around I notice the difference between CC's gear and the rest. It's a more dex-like experience. Last month I was trying too many at once so it was impossible to get an accurate feeling.
MH' s speed is pretty decent. Seemed to dry to an almost "cotton" -like texture. Difficult to make a line but packs a decent long lasting punch.
All in all extremely happy with both.
CC's latest batch is slightly waxy with an orange hue to it, and IMHO better than last! After a small amount (400 mg) dries out for a few hours, it chops up a little better. I've gotten used to dealing
with waxy speed. I don't wash. It's gotta come to me ready to roll. Already evaporates to a 1/4 less than intended amount (in some cases), I'm not going to take that and further reduce it anymore.
All in all, satisfied with recent orders.
Cape Crusader
Max Havelaar
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Mr Importer - (currently a US only importer of Dutch Amphetamine) - feels pretty strong, though I may arrange to send someone a gram through 6DEE3CADA's rating page/thread. I put an offer out there to foot
the bill for cost of getting a gram to anyone who's willing to test it, in exchange for getting to keep the remainder of the gram, minus the miniscule amount needed to surrender for the testing place.
That's all outta me. - Another lengthy rambling post1. 8)
Peace
jagfug
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Haha Shamiroqai you made me laugh! I have to look up some words you used, to get a better understanding. :D
You can also just put your stuff in a capsule. Add some water and close it up. Put it in the freezer and after a while peel off the gel capsule.
The finished product is ready to go in a drink or in the backdoor! :D
Wtf, why didn't I think of that lol. Pure genius.
But oh well, at least I've had a fun Saturday afternoon reading and building it.
Shamiroqais gloriously overengineered butter bombs and 6DEE3CADAs elegant frozen capsules.. both briliant solutions! Love it.
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CC s wizz arrived earlier and I feel it surpasses the previous offerings from him, slight amber sulfurous color,waxy and glorious.
I personally think its amazing considering the high weighed against side effects ratio.
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Good to hear orders already being received :D Can't wait
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just for information: the problem with the mail from spain(bm) to germany seems not to have gotten better. its already a week now with priority mail and still waiting.
so with powerade gone(?) - more expensive but for over 5orders it was always 1-2days - i guess i have to find a way to store a larger amount somehow outside the flat....
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Got my CC order as well, 8 days--niiice. My other two orders have taken 15-20 days to the US so it seems the postal strike over there certainly isn't hurting things. Haven't tried yet, but mine looks as Jagfug and BigMind described (darker yellow/orange) and I'm sure it'll be as good as his last stuff.
Edit: sorry CC, been trying forever but am not able to log on to SR! Hopefully will be able to finalize for you at least before work tomorrow.
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I Received my order from BM on Monday after only 7 days shipping and I was pretty impressed with the stealth. The product I recieved was the yellowish waxy consistency that everybody else has been mentioning. I would consider my tolerance low, since its been about 7 months since I last had amphetamine sulfate other than the occasional adderrall. So far I have just been using 10-20 mg (insufflated) about 3 times a day to get through recent 12 hour shifts. At this low dose It certainly gets me up and going a little bit but doesn't quite give me the 'amped' and slightly euphoric buzz that I last remember. I'll definitely review after I experiment with higher doses and zero in on the 'sweet-spot'. Thanks BM, for the easy transaction, and I look forward to future business!
Believe in a world of unlimited resources. Find happiness in giving. Watch the world transform into one of unlimited resources. Its really that easy.
-Oats-
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@oats - Tolerance or maybe it's just "reactiveness". Hard to tell, but I was sure my tolerance was high, almost depressed about it. Then I had only a 6 day break. Got my BM 2G order, divided it in two, actually one I made 1.20g and hid that away somewhere, so good I lost it. No worry though as I had gotten that new US vendor's stuff MrImporter, and figured I'd find it.
Well it helped me better judge Mr/ Importer's stuff, (needless to say by day three the 1st part of my BM order was gone. (I share w/a friend-no fun speeding alone!)
So MrImporter got me through two days, in fact it was a full 72 hours before I slept because each night I tore my room apart looking for a CD jewel case I'd tucked it away in.
I finally crashed, and Monday came which brought 3 packages! CC (not sure if you saw me mention but ONE WEEK to US!!) - Amazing. Also MaxHavelaar who's got some pretty competitive stuff, and is
a hell of a good guy. - Then an order of benzos that I have no idea where they came from other than a guy that cancelled my order for them last week. So it was a banner day.
I stayed up past the 3 day mark, and gave the room one final tossing, being full of MH gear and the rest, and lo and behold there was the CD, where else? My socks and underwear drawer.! :-[
Only looked there 25 times! - I'd slid it in an envelope of important papers which I "hide" there.
Not sure where this was going but thought some of you might find that entertaining. Oh yeah!, tolerance and what I call reactiveness, or perhaps susceptibility to the effects of amphetamine.
Maybe it's because I played around with different 'brands' then went back to BM. Also, I slept from 5am till 1pm. (nice relaxing benzo sleep) the kind where when you wake up, you kind of just lay there relaxed for another hour. ( I needed that)
Then I got up and hit the BM rocket fuel. - I got so high after only two lines, say about 22mgs total, I thought I was going to pass out!
I waited a while, and about an hour later, felt stable and redosed out of habit. - Again, super euphoric rush! I was really surprised! - Maybe by doing the others, I somehow tricked my receptors?
Could also be the great nights sleep I had, but whatever it is, I'm in a good place.
Oh well, take it for what it's worth. - Kind of all over the place. - I know I'm pretty amped up. Had one of those burning trickly pisses before. An unfortunate side effect, but it tells me to maybe "cool it"
a little . It also tells me- that's some potent shit!
Happily Speeding in my own little world!
jagfug
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I got orders from both BM and CC come in this week. Both have similar look/consistancy as last time, waxy/yellowish dry block that is easily crumbled.
A noticable change is that CC's seems to have slightly more contaminates than last time. Slightly darker yellow powder, I assume its unreacted P2NP.(Looks exactly the same as the P2NP I recently got in)
Acetone wash of BM's gear produced white, non-waxy powder that is much easier to chop up and less painful to rail. Lost roughly 5-10% by weight from wash. I'm dealing with kitchen utensils and oversized mason jars though so I'd expect yields to be higher for anyone willing to take a bit more effort.
Acetone wash of CC's gear will be done tomorrow.
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got free samples 1gram of high grade speed (0.1 btc) for anyone who wants to try..
greets frank m
Ordered (still processing).
Can't wait to test it. :D
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Got a sample from Frank M and a 2g listing from CrystalMethod UK in processing at the moment, I'll update once they arrive! Really looking forward to trying CrystalMethod's batch, seems like an amphetamine conoisseur, but that might just be clever marketing. We shall see! Currently indulging in HO's batch, might mix it up with BD's, just to see what happens...
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Anyone bought from "Interways"?
( http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/ebf0ce501b )
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Anyone bought from "Interways"?
( http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/ebf0ce501b )
I ordered 10g about 12 days ago nothing showed up yet :(
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I am missing the RESULTS in the GENERAL LABORATORY TESTS I posted 2 week ago from Eric Cartman.
I got a reship from 20 gram because I was not satisfied about his first batch what was 44%.
The results from his second batch was 97.1 %. almost dry and snow white and no contamination.
For the most of you unbelievable but true.
Totally I received 40 grams for 110 dollars.
As you can see in these tests this is not the first time I did a lab test.
SPEEDIE
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I have never posted in this thread before so thought I would mark it for easy viewing in the future as well as comment on the product I've received on the Road in the past.
My first experience with amphetamine on the Road was through Powerade. I received a .5g sample from Germany to US and it arrived in exactly 7 days. My only other amphetamine experience previously had been prescription (Adderall and the like) and I was immediately sold on the sulfate in its stead. Really liked the quality and it's disappointing to have seen Powerade fluctuate back and forth regarding international shipping as I would have definitely ordered again.
I also received a 1g order from BestDutchDrugs that I felt was more powerful than Powerade's - although since the experiences were months apart it is hard to tell. The only complaint about BDD was a powerful headache that would come on about 4 hours in, but this could very well be the result of dehydration/hunger, not any product issue. I'm definitely monitoring the General Laboratory page to see the results come back on purity/cuts. I was pleased with the ease of delivery from Netherlands to U.S. - no issues there.
I placed an order with Mr. Importer yesterday and it hasn't yet been marked in transit but when I receive I will definitely update.
[EDIT]: A few minutes after I wrote this post the vendor marked my order in transit and messaged me to apologize for the delay - even though I definitely don't consider 22 hours to be a 'delay.' Certainly off to a good start and since this is domestic I'm hoping to see my stuff in the mail Friday or Saturday!
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I have never posted in this thread before so thought....
Welcome!
I'm also under the impression there might be something weird about BDD's speed (the 1gram sample). I didn't get a headache, but whenever I snort it, half of my head goes totally numb then tingling for a good 10 minutes or so. Especially upper teeth, sinus cavity and back of the head.
I can't say it feels unpleasant but it did freak me out a bit the first time I experienced this, as I was not expecting for it to happen.
Also, with other speed, the effect kicks in pretty fast after snorting but with BDD it only kicked in much, much later. I was already thinking "shit quality" but when it got me finally it was a pretty good rush and I was glad I didn't redose yet.
After that I've only tried it 2 or 3 times more but now I'm gonna wait for the test result before using it again, just to be safe. Not saying anything is really fucked up about BDD's speed but sometimes all these hardcore speedfreaks frequenting this thread, making me worry with their chemistry/drug knowledge and stories lmao. When I come across an unexpected side-effect from a known product I'm rather safe than sorry.
EDIT: just noticed your name and signature. That's one of my favorite movies. For me, the real stars are Walter and Donny though.
*Side rant edited out for safety reasons*
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@Sham - Funny you should mention that specific reaction. I've been dipping and dabbling with very small amounts in the past 12 hours (3pm to 3am NY), and it was when I realized I was hitting BM's gear. I didn't want to go that intense, so I remembered where I'd hid the CC batch. I put some out and really it wasn't wet, just that same waxy (mine is an orange hue, just a shade lighter than Adderall coincidentally)
Well up the nose went two conservative lines, as I'm trying to be good. I then got almost the same reaction! - Particularly with the upper row of teeth on the left side, which took a bigger line, since it was clearer.
It only lasted about a minute, along with a harsh burn. Then it went away. - A little numbing. - I think it's just some of the unfinished ingredients doing something weird, because after that, I got that familiar "mellow speed" high, is the only way I can describe it. Not weak, mind you. It's like when I was heavily into acid in HS, you always wanted 'cleaner' less speedy SYD.
I've got a nice stash, and I'm making it last. I got about 2 weeks to make it through, though I may just get enough btc's for 1 more order to play it safe, until my regular shopping day of the 3rd.
Anyone know of any great 'cures' (besides abstaining) for that whole 'urinary issue'?? It's really the only negative side effect for me. - Other than abstaining of course.
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How about a catheter? :P
Sucks seeing everyone receive CC's gear but my mailbox stays empty.. :(
Something weird is going on with mail coming to my house I guess. I have ordered 2 books from England and only 1 has arrived, it's been 16 days!
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Anyone know of any great 'cures' (besides abstaining) for that whole 'urinary issue'?? It's really the only negative side effect for me. - Other than abstaining of course.
Stinging nettle herb and rhizome (Urtica dioica) is an excellent prostate herb. The rhizome is a bit stronger, but the aerial parts of the leaf and flower are effective as well. In the case of the rhizome, the North American variety, slender stinging nettle, is the most effective.
Another group of related herbs that are excellent for the prostate are the willowherbs. There are many species and all of the ones that I’ve used are effective.
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Other excellent prostate herbs include yellow and white sweet clover herb (Melilotus officinalis and M. alba), common horsetail herb (Equisetum arvense) and sweet and spotted Joe-Pye rhizome (Eupatorium purpureum and E. maculatum).
To make a prostate formulation, I recommend using two or three of the above herbs. Don’t use more than one herb from each of the groups of closely related herbs.
It's called prostatitis if you want to research it. Never tried any of this stuff, myself. I just deal with it, but it usually isn't too bad for me. I mean sometimes it's a serious problem, but not too often. Ironically I'm pretty conservative about what I'm willing to ingest and what my threshold for "time to take something," is ::)
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Thanks BoyMaster! Might give it another try.
I know it's a luxury problem but BM's stuff is just too strong and scary for me (almost OD once on 10mg in my coffee after a break).
I guess I could use it to pimp the weaker stuff I get and to make unsnortable acetone washed speed snortable again.
Or when my tolerance is rising out of proportion again.
As I "promised" him a while ago, I've ordered some of MaxHavelaar 31% no caffeine speed yesterday. Not the dry stuff but the 4g-turns-to-2g paste discount offer. Mainly because I didn't have enough BTC for anything else lol. Nah, Max seems to be an ok guy so why not check it out.
(Btw, after posting here about the debit card shit (which on second thought I'm gonna edit out for too much info), everything was settled a few hours later. I wonder if this method would work for every other problem crossing my path hehe)
Anyway, so I was only 90% sure I'd qualify to get fast, same day shipping (wasn't sure if I needed at least 5 orders from him or just 5 in general) but order was put -in transit- the same day. So A+ on that.
I know that it's possible for mail to arrive from the Netherlands the very next day already but my guess would be Monday at the earliest so not gonna get overexcited yet.
Anyone knows when CC brings back his official new listings? I can't find any info other then something about a strike over there??
I was wrongfully assuming the earlier listings were the official ones, so I was like, oh cool, ordering after the weekend, only to see everything gone of course. Dammit!
EDIT: I wish SR gave the option to change the currency to €
Edit 2:
During the boredom of SR being down this morning I found something worse and more addictive than anything being sold on SR: SatoshiDice...
Seems like it's pretty famous when I look at blockchain, but I had never heard of it and now I regret clicking on the link lol.
That little stupid game (stupid but genius, I admit) could have ruined my my day to say the least, except that I got lucky in the end and quickly grabbed my bags and got the hell out of there before real damage was done!
I was gonna transfer 100€ worth in btc to SR but the site was unavailable so after discovering that Dice-Devil I decided to check it out more, see if there was some fun to be had. And there was, but not for long.
Long story a bit shorter:
I started off with winning a lot of small bets, got confident and you can already guess it, lost everything. It was only 100€ so not the biggest deal in the world.
Except that I hate losing. I kept buying more btc (damn you, xxx-banking for insta-buy) and continued losing until all of a sudden I got lucky and won "big" in the 12.207% category and got the fuck out of there.
Don't think the amounts were like thousands of euro's but still, losing some hundreds, on a Friday morning, playing the most stupid game, at home, just by myself would have pissed me off Royally.
In the end I'm still losing cause guess what... now that I have a few hundred euros worth of btc, I can already see from miles ahead what's gonna happen with it and selling is probably not gonna be it lol.
But you never know, it happened before that I made smart and responsible decisions!
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Goddammit still nothing, wtf is going on.. this is starting to piss me off now :-X
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Hi guys, just gained the ability to post on threads other than the newbie ones and thought I'd say hello since I've been reading you for some time.
Do you have any comments on scizofreen's speed? He's not selling any ATM, but that's the first one I came across & tested.
EDIT: I wish SR gave the option to change the currency to €
Same here...
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Hello my fellow friends
Due to big improvements in our manufacture methods in quality and size as well as in the distribution system, the new batch is near and almost prepared and ready to be shipped. We are spending the last weeks of life of the last batch just ensuring that the quality of this new batch is just the best possible. That means that the offer will be greatly increased so:
We are happy to announce a big discount in our prices for the pure Amphetamine sulfate which will last indefinitely:
1g----24,9€/g
2g----22,6€/g
5g----19,95€/g
10g---17,3€/g
25g---14,5€/g
Kind regards
BM
Cool, I just received an order from you last week but I might grab a bit of the new batch.
Care to comment on why your amph is yellow/waxy though? I don't have a problem with it as I wash all the gear I receive, just interested in what, specifically, is causing the change in colour.
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"We are spending the last weeks of life of the last batch just ensuring that the quality of this new batch is just the best possible. That means that the offer will be greatly increased so:
Am I the only one having trouble deciphering exactly what that line means? - @Boymaster - Thanks great to hear about a new batch, but this almost reads like (my translation);
"These are the last weeks of the old batch, and we're insuring the new batch is the best, that means the current prices will be reduced" - Is that about right?
Spending the last weeks of life? I hope that doesn't mean you're terminally ill! - OK that was a joke. Your English is 95% better than my Espanol.
Looking forward to the new gear! I'll take the old too! - Just got super poor. - A drunk driving charge (2 beers-Gods honest truth!)- Cost me $1000 in court fines, and $2000 for a lawyer. :'(
To say that was a major setback, would be an understatement. I think I'm going to have to wait till the 3rd to order again. I refuse to sell my guitar! Again! It's too fucking nice! :D
@Knomo, +SS - Thanks for the info. I actually spoke to a urologist, and told him I was on prescribed Adderall, just to be safe, because that did it to me too. He said if it's definitely a direct result of
the amphetamine, then there is a drug he can prescribe to be taken as needed. I believe it was Inderal. Used for dilating blood vessels in cases of High Blood Pressure, and Migraine Headaches.
He said he's had some success with other patients who've had similar complaints. Also I got a PM from someone who saw my post that suggested Amyl Nitrate! - Which I believe is sold in sex shops,
and called 'poppers'. - Well that one might work too. It does 'dilate' things 'in that area' or so I've read. LoL - You never know what you're going to get on here! ;D
@Sham - Stop gambling! Think of all that other 'stuff' you could buy! Also I feel bad you guys can't get SR to show Euros. I figured the majority of SR'ers were in the EU!
Majority of American SR'ers seem to be potheads. - Not that there's anything wrong with that! ;) - I'll usually take a toke if my friend is offering, it's just not something I would actively seek out.
Kind of outgrew that phase. - I'll tell you one thing, if I'm speeding pretty good? 1 or 2 hits of my friends weed, and I'm tripping! I gotta remind myself to take no more than 1 or 2!
@Knomo- Sorry to hear your CC order is so late. What was the ship date, if you don't mind me asking. - I know he said he has had long ship times to Germany. I'm pretty sure you're in the UK?
That sucks. Hopefully it's just late. Have you tried contacting CC? - Worth a shot. - Good luck!
Peace
jagfug
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I'm not in Germany or in the UK, but right in the middle; the Netherlands :P
My order went out march 11th, but I'm still keeping hope it will arrive today 8)
Won't contact CC cause he's probably busy and all, it won't be his fault anyway.
But it kinda extra sucks cause this is the first time I've collected money from friends and bought for them, instead of just for me ::)
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just laughing ;D 8)
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Greetings
Most orders are actually arriving faster than usual so the postal strike clearly has no effect on my mail. I might put up the new listings next week, but i think it would be best to put them up on the 1 of April as there are a few public holidays coming up next week.
@Knomo: I'm not sure why your order is taking so long to arrive. You usually are one of the first to receive.
Best regards
CC
Negative Karma. Thanks
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@Knomo: I'm not sure why your order is taking so long to arrive. You usually are one of the first to receive.
I know right... :-\
That's why it is so frustrating. Cannot imagine the letter being intercepted, but if it is... timing could have been better ::)
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Haha Shamiroqai you made me laugh! I have to look up some words you used, to get a better understanding. :D
You can also just put your stuff in a capsule. Add some water and close it up. Put it in the freezer and after a while peel off the gel capsule.
The finished product is ready to go in a drink or in the backdoor! :D
Just tried the ice-plugging method with ~25 mg BM's, slightly adjusted as I just put some water and amph in an empty pill package (no clue what the right word for that is therefore a picture) and then right in the fridge. Placed the package on some metal and it was frozen in like 20 - 30 minutes. http://www7.pic-upload.de/22.03.13/g1hewx54e17z.jpg
Smoothed the edges with my fingers and put it up my ass. 10 Minutes later I definitely feel nicely amphed, had a 20 days break though.
Actually burnt a little, but less than eating to much chilli 8).
So far I like it, might update if something unexpected happens^^
Also who dares to give CC negative karma - shame on you ;D.
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Hello my fellow friends
Due to big improvements in our manufacture methods in quality and size as well as in the distribution system, the new batch is near and almost prepared and ready to be shipped. We are spending the last weeks of life of the last batch just ensuring that the quality of this new batch is just the best possible. That means that the offer will be greatly increased so:
We are happy to announce a big discount in our prices for the pure Amphetamine sulfate which will last indefinitely:
1g----24,9€/g
2g----22,6€/g
5g----19,95€/g
10g---17,3€/g
25g---14,5€/g
Kind regards
BM
Great to hear! Just railing yours 80mg after the shroom trip. Will of course reorder you newest, perfected batch! ;D
EDIT: Still waiting for FrankMathew's sample. :)
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Got my FrankMatthews sample today. It's the wettest product I have ever received through SR, some fluid even managed to leak out of the ziplock baggie onto the surrounding paper but luckily that was inside the seal. The weight of the wet product was about 1.5 grams so despite the wetness I still had about .75g grams left once dried. Texture and smell seem quite promising so I'll probably try it tomorrow.
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CC +1 to make up for someone's misplaced unhappiness.
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Haha Shamiroqai you made me laugh! I have to look up some words you used, to get a better understanding. :D
You can also just put your stuff in a capsule. Add some water and close it up. Put it in the freezer and after a while peel off the gel capsule.
The finished product is ready to go in a drink or in the backdoor! :D
Just tried the ice-plugging method with ~25 mg BM's, slightly adjusted as I just put some water and amph in an empty pill package (no clue what the right word for that is therefore a picture) and then right in the fridge. Placed the package on some metal and it was frozen in like 20 - 30 minutes. http://www7.pic-upload.de/22.03.13/g1hewx54e17z.jpg
Smoothed the edges with my fingers and put it up my ass. 10 Minutes later I definitely feel nicely amphed, had a 20 days break though.
Actually burnt a little, but less than eating to much chilli 8).
So far I like it, might update if something unexpected happens^^
Also who dares to give CC negative karma - shame on you ;D.
Err... 6DEE3CADA, capsule + water = bad... I don't understand what you mean by this.
Also, out of interest, why do people order from other vendors?(vendor's other than CC/BM) Lab tests in this thread have shown almost every vendor on the road selling amph with an advertised purity( be it 50%, 60%, 70% etc.) are inaccurate. Added to that, they are the only 2 vendors who have displayed any real knowledge of their product(they both synthesize themselves as far as I know, and have displayed enough knowledge of chemistry for me to believe them) makes me not understand the mentality associated with buying from alternative vendors...
Is it due to people only wanting to order domestically? That seems to be the only thing that makes sense.
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Also, out of interest, why do people order from other vendors?(vendor's other than CC/BM) Lab tests in this thread have shown almost every vendor on the road selling amph with an advertised purity( be it 50%, 60%, 70% etc.) are inaccurate. Added to that, they are the only 2 vendors who have displayed any real knowledge of their product(they both synthesize themselves as far as I know, and have displayed enough knowledge of chemistry for me to believe them) makes me not understand the mentality associated with buying from alternative vendors...
Is it due to people only wanting to order domestically? That seems to be the only thing that makes sense.
Because CC and BM takes at least 6-7 days to arrive and have a limited supply and I rarely order more than 5g at once so in case an order doesn't come through, the loss is minimal. I order from HollandOnline and now MacHavelaar because the package arrives in 2 days or even the next day (read: whenever I want it, it'll get here fast) and it's not a shit product just because it has caffeine (without is better of course, but it doesn't give me bad side effects on normal use). I like change of flavor and I'll get speedy anyway, all I do is adjusting the dose.
Also who dares to give CC negative karma - shame on you ;D.
Well, considering there's not much competition at the top I can only think of one person lmao.
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Also, out of interest, why do people order from other vendors?(vendor's other than CC/BM) Lab tests in this thread have shown almost every vendor on the road selling amph with an advertised purity( be it 50%, 60%, 70% etc.) are inaccurate.
Price and delivery time.
Also who dares to give CC negative karma - shame on you ;D.
Well, considering there's not much competition at the top I can only think of one person lmao.
BM can't give bad rep yet.
I am missing the RESULTS in the GENERAL LABORATORY TESTS I posted 2 week ago from Eric Cartman.
I got a reship from 20 gram because I was not satisfied about his first batch what was 44%.
The results from his second batch was 97.1 %. almost dry and snow white and no contamination.
For the most of you unbelievable but true.
Totally I received 40 grams for 110 dollars.
As you can see in these tests this is not the first time I did a lab test.
SPEEDIE
Indeed hard to believe. Does he even still sell speed on here? Problem with these kind of sellers is, that by now they figured that you are getting it tested so they could just send you the best they got and get their results posted. :/
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Tried some of my FrankMatthews sample today but it wasn't quite what I hoped for, although not bad either. Started carefully with 50mg and despite the heavy chemical smell it caused me almost no noseburn. After about 15 minutes I started to feel some bodyload (increased heartbeat, slight trembling) but no euphoria and only slight increase of motivation and activity level so I waited another 15 minutes and redosed 50mg. That got me to where I wanted to be motivation and activity wise but still no euphoria unfortunately.
All in all; I'd say this amph is probably about the same strength as HollandOnline, maybe a little bit stronger. For me HO has a lot more euphoria though and hardly if any bodyload so in this price range I personally prefer his product.
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Still nothing from CC :(
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Received from both Frank and CrystalMethod UK; Frank's was the wettest I have ever revceived, as vxn said, and leaked out of the packaging. The envelope definitely smelt a little of 'that smell', but that might just be because I know the smell. CM's was paste, but not almost liquid like Frank's. It has dried out to a clear, white substance which I can't wait to try! I'm wary of Frank's to be honest, especially after vxn's words - might just dry it out try a really small amount for productivity as opposed to speeding.
I have also experienced what Sham said regarding the tingling sensation at the top of your head after snorting BDD's batch. I felt it was quite pleasurable and reminded me of the sensation snorting mephedrone gave back in the day... Anyone know what it is? Also, I think BDD's batch is probably the same strength as HO's batch, I have now tried them side by side.
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I tried frank's speed with my wife today. We took 70mg each after we let the bag open few hours.
It has a sort of chemical parfume, not so bad on nose. But, hmm, we didn't feel much. A little increase of concentration,
no euphoria at all, not really speedy either.
I don't know if it's direclty connected to the speed, but I felt nauseous.
A question :
Can you, people, link to a thread regarding to speed tolerance?
Or can you share me your own experiences. I mean, how much speed build a tolerance? (lets take BM's speed as reference)
And then, how long you have to stop? Again, do you know anything about cross tolerance with mdma or 4mmc?
Thanks,
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Copy/pasted from a bluelight thread(just google search a few keywords from it to find the thread) which has some good info:
Amphetamine tolerance is caused by excess Ca++ influx through the NMDA receptor gated calcium channels on the outer membranes of the dopamine cells bodies in the ventral tegental area, one of two areas in the brain with concentrations of dopamine producing neurons.
As alluded to above, taking an appropriate NMDA (partial) antagonist will prevent the development of a tolerance for the effects of an amphetamine or amphetamine-like stimulant. Also, by preventing excess Ca++ influx into the neuron, an NMDA antagonist will prevent associated brain alterations and damage (excitotoxicity).
Studies have indicated that amphetamine tolerance is prevented by exogenous or endogenous agents that are able to inhibit excess Ca++ influx into the neuron through the gated calcium channels on the neuronal membrane that have NMDA subtype glutamate receptors.Glutamate , the body’s major excitatory neurotransmitter, opens the gated calcium ion channels upon attaching to the NMDA receptor. A number of other receptors are also expressed on these calcium channels, which, when stimulated, either facilitate or inhibit glutamate’s action.
It is also important that agents that inhibit calcium channel activity not also cause deficient Ca++ influx. For example, ketamine is a full NMDA receptor antagonist, that prevents excess Ca++ influx and amphetamine tolerance. But being a full NMDA antagonist, ketamine in excessive doses results in deficient Ca++ influx. This could be one of the reasons it leaves K-user in a state of disassociation.
taken from http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20031015/msgs/270735.html
the same goes for opiates. you need an agonist in order to reduce tolerance as excess c++ molecules are stopped from entering the neurotransmitters, which is what causes the tolerance to begin with. it wouldn't exactly reverse a tolerance but it would prevent it from building up.
now back on topic, d-aspartic acid stimulants nmda receptors but only ever so slightly. you'd surely need an incredibly large dose in order to prevent the tolerance which would not be economical or healthy i presume. although all methods are not exactly healthy. i guess it could work, but you need a measure as to how much it effects the nmda receptor first.
As for your other questions, the amount of variables involved make it impossible for anyone to give you accurate information. We would need to know details such as age, weight, metabolism, etc. to even guess.
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Could anyone of you please give precise instructions how the build a nasal-spray containing amph -
for this alternative consuming-method?
Which steps are necessary and/ or important when making something special like that?
Any experiences so far? Thanks a lot in advance...
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Copy/pasted from a bluelight thread(just google search a few keywords from it to find the thread) which has some good info:
Amphetamine tolerance is caused by excess Ca++ influx through the NMDA receptor gated calcium channels on the outer membranes of the dopamine cells bodies in the ventral tegental area, one of two areas in the brain with concentrations of dopamine producing neurons.
As alluded to above, taking an appropriate NMDA (partial) antagonist will prevent the development of a tolerance for the effects of an amphetamine or amphetamine-like stimulant. Also, by preventing excess Ca++ influx into the neuron, an NMDA antagonist will prevent associated brain alterations and damage (excitotoxicity).
Studies have indicated that amphetamine tolerance is prevented by exogenous or endogenous agents that are able to inhibit excess Ca++ influx into the neuron through the gated calcium channels on the neuronal membrane that have NMDA subtype glutamate receptors.Glutamate , the body’s major excitatory neurotransmitter, opens the gated calcium ion channels upon attaching to the NMDA receptor. A number of other receptors are also expressed on these calcium channels, which, when stimulated, either facilitate or inhibit glutamate’s action.
It is also important that agents that inhibit calcium channel activity not also cause deficient Ca++ influx. For example, ketamine is a full NMDA receptor antagonist, that prevents excess Ca++ influx and amphetamine tolerance. But being a full NMDA antagonist, ketamine in excessive doses results in deficient Ca++ influx. This could be one of the reasons it leaves K-user in a state of disassociation.
taken from http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20031015/msgs/270735.html
the same goes for opiates. you need an agonist in order to reduce tolerance as excess c++ molecules are stopped from entering the neurotransmitters, which is what causes the tolerance to begin with. it wouldn't exactly reverse a tolerance but it would prevent it from building up.
now back on topic, d-aspartic acid stimulants nmda receptors but only ever so slightly. you'd surely need an incredibly large dose in order to prevent the tolerance which would not be economical or healthy i presume. although all methods are not exactly healthy. i guess it could work, but you need a measure as to how much it effects the nmda receptor first.
As for your other questions, the amount of variables involved make it impossible for anyone to give you accurate information. We would need to know details such as age, weight, metabolism, etc. to even guess.
Thanks for this,
I don't need accurate information, i'd like people to share how they manage their dose and tolerance.
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I'd be interested in that too, italosvevo.
I've mostly used (cheap, I'll be the first to admit) speed paste so far, snorting it after drying it, and played with doses ranging from ~5 mg to ~15mg, my "binges" being dosing twice per day. It does give me a speedy mindset and helps me focus when problem-solving, but no discernible euphoria or 'light head' at all. I've been on/off daily, but stopped for the last few days since I've noticed my heart beating strangely after a night out drinking heavily and want to keep off almost everything except cigarettes and coffee for the time being. Not much craving going on, so far, either.
I'd be interested to hear of others' experiences.
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Could anyone of you please give precise instructions how the build a nasal-spray containing amph -
for this alternative consuming-method?
Which steps are necessary and/ or important when making something special like that?
Any experiences so far? Thanks a lot in advance...
Any advices are welcome - maybe anyone knows this method already?
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Could anyone of you please give precise instructions how the build a nasal-spray containing amph -
for this alternative consuming-method?
Which steps are necessary and/ or important when making something special like that?
Any experiences so far? Thanks a lot in advance...
Any advices are welcome - maybe anyone knows this method already?
-Search clearnet for soluability of amphetamine in x(where x is the carrier fluid you plan to use)
-Find out how much fluid the nasal spray dispenser you use will put out in a single spray on average.
-After that its just simple maths to find out the dosage for a single spray if you saturate the fluid in amphetamine.
Nobody is going to do your homework for you, if someone were to answer your question how you wanted it answered, they would have to do exactly the same steps I listed above.
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It's really easy but I've had some cocktails so there might be some flaws (i'll check on this again when sober tomorrow)
Let's say your dispenser contains 10ml of liquid. Start spraying and count the amount of sprays until empty and write that number down. (let's say it's 50 to keep it easy)
And let's say you're gonna dissolve 0.5g (500mg) of speed in those 10ml of water (always boil water first).
Note: NEVER use tap water for nasal spray!! Always at least use bottled water (still boil it first) but best thing to do is go out and buy distilled water! (Thanks Fractalglobal)
We can then conclude that each spray contains 10mg of speed (500/50). So if normally you need 50mg to get all amped up you'll need to spray 5 times.
You might wanna add 50mg grade A salt (none ioDized) for better uptake thus more powa but add 50mg of speed also.
You might wanna be uber cool and add some 96% etyl alcohol (not much, a few drops, maybe 1ml) for opening up blood vessels in da nose to give even more powa but also add more speed too (dunno the amount here, since the density will change now and I cannot do the math without being more sober but 10mg is safe)
Done
EDIT: usually I don't measure anything, I just keep on dumping until I'm satisfied with 1 spray (However, I always start with minimum 500mg in 5ml if I recall correctly and continue from there. It all depends on how pure the speed is)
EDIT 2: just realized (thx Onlinefreak +1) I wrote none-Ionized where I meant none-Iodized. So basically as long as it's NOT plain kitchen salt you're good: pure sea salt, kosher salt, himalaya salt, pickling salt,... . Anything without additives.
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Does anyone know when Ruthenium plans to list his goods?
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Let's say your dispenser contains 10ml of liquid. Start spraying and count the amount of sprays until empty and write that number down. (let's say it's 50 to keep it easy)
And let's say you're gonna dissolve 0.5g (500mg) of speed in those 10ml of water (always boil water first).
Counting the amount of sprays required to empty the bottle will not be accurate with most dispensers, the dispenser will still have some liquid remaining when it "runs out" due to the mechanics of the spray.
Also, dH2O is available at most hardware stores and chemists, if you plan to use water as a carrier fluid, I wouldn't recommend tap water.
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really useful advices, as I will give this technique soon a try to make my own experiences.
thank you very much for explaining me the basics! +1, of course.
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Let's say your dispenser contains 10ml of liquid. Start spraying and count the amount of sprays until empty and write that number down. (let's say it's 50 to keep it easy)
And let's say you're gonna dissolve 0.5g (500mg) of speed in those 10ml of water (always boil water first).
Counting the amount of sprays required to empty the bottle will not be accurate with most dispensers, the dispenser will still have some liquid remaining when it "runs out" due to the mechanics of the spray.
Also, dH2O is available at most hardware stores and chemists, if you plan to use water as a carrier fluid, I wouldn't recommend tap water.
Very true, if you wanna be totally safe and extremely precise you should consider the left-over in the dispenser and buy dH2O.
But if you live in a modern day, peaceful country and your amphetamine is not produced by NASA or CERN or something like that, it's generally safe to not be super precise with measuring sprays and just use boiled bottled water but you have a point of course! Kudos for that.
I agree 10000% though with not using tap water. Even if you live in the safest, most peaceful place, tap water is never really safe to use in a nasal spray, even if it's boiled. So I'm gonna add this to the post. Thanks and +1
EDIT: Fuck this shit lol, typing, translating and looking things up while having to close one eye in order to focus is just too much for now. Time for bed like I was planning to do 5-6hrs ago lmao!
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My Frank Matthews sample arrived the other day. Lightning fast shipping (2 days in the EU!), and very good, professional looking packaging, though the internals could do with slightly more folding to prevent visibility, should it be opened.
Looks like it was shipped extremely wet, but it was mostly dry on arrival, with a half hour on the radiator taking care of the rest.
The powder's bright white and has a strong chemical smell, similar to that I've encountered in Germany. Weight looks correct and easily snorted with little to no burning.
I eyeballed measurements and felt a decent physical high that died off within a couple of hours. I've been using other stuff a lot over the past few weeks, so can't give an entirely accurate judgement, but it doesn't seem to be quite the purity it's advertised at. Seems like an OK product at a pretty cheap price (Note: FE required).
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Due to big improvements in our manufacture methods in quality and size as well as in the distribution system, the new batch is near and almost prepared and ready to be shipped. We are spending the last weeks of life of the last batch just ensuring that the quality of this new batch is just the best possible.
The Master improves! Does this mean we will get a "white, odorless crystalline powder with slightly bitter taste"? No more yellow wax?
Negative Karma. Thanks
How dare you, Anonymous Forum Member? Another +1 for CC.
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Did anyone ever cancel an order? And did it show in your buyer stats? I can't seem to find a clear yes or no answer. Some say it does, and others say it doesn't. I don't wanna ruin my stats over 40 bucks.
Negative Karma. Thanks
How dare you, Anonymous Forum Member? Another +1 for CC.
And another +1 to support the new batch official release listings anytime soon!! In the meantime...grow SR wallet...GROW!
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I once asked a vendor to cancel my order, didn't show on my stats.. But for cancelling your own order, no idea. It sounds unlikely tho.
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You can cancel your order after four days of processing. When the order is in transit, you can't cancel anymore, only the vendor can.
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So message the vendor if he could cancel the order, before it gets dispatched :)
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now over 14days with priority mail from spain to ger and still counting........somehow mail-service just hates me (never sth got lost, but not first time i have to resolve to add extra time and this with eu-orders only).
i guess it sucks for the seller too, especially with those wild moving bc prices but just dont feel save to fe after what bm did a few month ago, sorry.
at least i can you guys say you wont have any bad physical withdrawal except 1 or 2 days sleep and a little itching when you get tired. that was all i had after taking around 2 month nonstop (12 days sober now). psychical craving is quite strong so.
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now over 14days with priority mail from spain to ger and still counting........somehow mail-service just hates me (never sth got lost, but not first time i have to resolve to add extra time and this with eu-orders only).
i guess it sucks for the seller too, especially with those wild moving bc prices but just dont feel save to fe after what bm did a few month ago, sorry.
at least i can you guys say you wont have any bad physical withdrawal except 1 or 2 days sleep and a little itching when you get tired. that was all i had after taking around 2 month nonstop (12 days sober now). psychical craving is quite strong so.
Running real low here, counting on BM's stuff to get here to the states by this time next week. Working 60 hours a week, that first couple of days without can be really shitty...i am literally useless at work. But it can be a good thing too....a few days/weeks can do wonders for tolerance.
My problem is using benzos like valium and xanax to sleep at night/take away jitters for higher dosages due to tolerance, then not having any benzos on hand....talk about withdrawal hell....
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now over 14days with priority mail from spain to ger and still counting........
that´s really a long time of waiting.
pls update, as I´m thinking about placing also an order.
hopefully everything goes well for you, and shows up at the end soon.
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I'm now waiting 16 days for CC's stuff, still nothing :(
One small light in this darkness is that I've just hit 2000 posts ;D
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28 days for me waiting for BM. The last two times, it took 10 days. now BM is reshipping to me hopefully it will deliver.
He is also offering me 50% refund. I'm not sure that he is offering both. I have already message him about it and is waiting for a response. But there are only 5 hours to the Silk Road admin steps in. What should I do?
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Take the reship
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He asked for the address and then in the Resolution Center he offered 50% refund. I am not sure whether I will get both or just one. and should I not extended due date for the reship?
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Yeah, BM is a nice guy.. but sending you 200% product and also refunding you 50% seems a bit much, doesn't it? :P
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I'm now waiting 16 days for CC's stuff, still nothing :(
One small light in this darkness is that I've just hit 2000 posts ;D
If it is any comfort for you, as your post was for me, I am at 16 days too. The first order from CC took 11 days to the Pacific North-West. However, this initial send out was to test and see how long things took. It seemed CC expected delays with the postal service.
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yes it does. so I do not know what to do :S
and if it is not 50% refund and reship, I would like to keep in Resolution Center until the package arrives
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yes it does. so I do not know what to do :S
and if it is not 50% refund and reship, I would like to keep in Resolution Center until the package arrives
Extend the due date, by all means! - The "re-ship" combined with the 50% refund, may have just been a gesture of 'good will'. - A showing that "I'm willing to work it out either way"
Go with the re-ship, + extend the time . Last month I was hit with a seizure letter, and the vendor improved stealth, re-shipped, and everything worked out.
I'm feeling this will too.
BM is active on forums, so he's probably reading this, if he hasn't already.
Extending the time is the least you can do. - IMHO
Peace
jagfug
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hopefully everything from BM shows up at the end for you guys,
and it´s only due to slow mail-service, as I´m reading:
nomnom1 is now over 14 days and counting to GER, and
hamark is at 28 days and still waiting. Crossing my fingers for you, of course -
pls update on arrivals.
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With the recent reports (here and on other sites) of sellers losing their minds and threatening/blackmailing customers with killing their families, handing over their info to the cops and all, I've decided to open a P.O Box for my SR stuff.
It's not that I'm really impressed with idiots like that but I'm rather safe than sorry. After all, I don't know who's on the other side, processing my orders. All it takes is 1 nutcase really losing it for some reason. And it certainly is not directed to any vendor specifically.
Anyway, since no physical P.O Box was available at this time, I had to take a virtual box for the time being. This just means, I pick up my mail at the counter. However, for orders with strong odor, I'm refraining from this until I have a real PO box. Even though in the past all orders were perfectly smell proof, I wouldn't wanna stand there in line, receiving a wet package with chemical fumes coming off lol.
So now for my real question,
I'd like to give BM another try but I've read multiple feedback/reviews that his packages are lacking in the "smell proof department", and even though it's dry, I remember from earlier orders BM's amp has a pretty strong odor.
Anyone has some feedback on this, as I tend to trust you guys more than the anonymous feedback on SR.
Some very mild scent wouldn't be a problem as the postal workers here are not the brightest crayons in the box (seems like this is one of the requirements for the job here). So what's up with BM? Is it really bad vacuum sealing or are those stories exaggerated?
Thanks in advance.
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Couldn't smell anything on the outside of BM's order to me, took 20+ days to arrive so if the vac seal were to degrade to the point of being able to smell it, it would have by then.
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Good day everyone
I never received my 2g from BM so choose another vendor for same amount, proline.
I have now received something but cant tell whose it is!
(Both ship from same country)
WITHOUT REVILING ANYTHING ABOUT PACKAGING can anyone tell me which vendor uses a black baggie and which uses regular see through vac pack?
Or any other hints between the two?
Else I will have to bother the vendors about it, but I would rather get a quick answer here.
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As far as I know Proline ships from Germany and BM from Spain.
And BM is see through vac pack unless he changed it.
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Hi,
My last order (5gms) from BM was flawless, came pretty quick (approx 5-7 days,not sure exactly how long, because i was away for 15 days at that time and mail pickup friend didn't remember exactly) right on the weight and again wonderful product.
I abused it a bit over 15 days last month (at least 30-50 mgs a day) because it's so good and now being off for a while for sleep cycle restoration :)
If you want some real amph for sure, go BM (or CC) but don't forget it IS strong.
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I never received my 2g from BM...
wtf ???
I have now received something but cant tell whose it is!
;D loosing the overview about deliveries is just mad, lol
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wtf ???
;D loosing the overview about deliveries is just mad, lol
Thanks for clearing that up Shamiroqai, I thought they both were from Germany.
And yep, its been a month and it didn't arrive. £40 down the pooper, insignificant amount but I wont be ordering from BM again thats for sure.
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I am sad :( to hear of the discontent surrounding Boymaster . If you're a good student of this board, you'll know that I was his/their staunchest critic this past January, only to have him, and I really think it was the real 'him' , come out to defend his honor.
While he may not possess the best customer service skills. (I believe it's a language thing), he's delivered consistently to me, despite me being the only ballbuster on here.
So I would say to those who are showing up here for the 1st time, using a good story, and asking, but not really asking, for shipping details, I have to call "FOUL" - hopefully that's universally understood.
"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" - Shakespeare -Marcellus says in 'Hamlet' Act I.
That is in no way an opinion or comment on the current borders of land in that area. Those wiser than me, will most likely "get it". I know I do, but it's hard to explain.
For us simpletons, I will simply say this. - List the day your item was marked 'in transit' and then when you tried to contact the seller. - Really this is all stuff for the resolution center.
If that's where this can go. Go there now. Otherwise, you may have FE'd, in that case, some of us can help you.
Do tell the particulars of your order, unless you're uncomfortable detailing that in such a public place. - In that case, we trust you even more.
PM a few of us, pick our brains. I've had quite a few "tests" from PM's, and some I know were LEO, some I'm not sure, some I could tell were just simple noobs looking for advice, which I gave.
I may have breached this rule or that, but in my best judgement, I've never revealed anything that could help LEO. Or LE as we've trimmed it down to .
@Sham - Sorry to hear of your difficulties, and you might want to respond with PM, but I wonder "Why" you cannot receive mail, directly to your address. Even if it is an Apartment or Flat, is the mail service really that different, that me as an American, wouldn't understand? - Just a lingering question.
Careful friends. Something just doesn't feel right about this sudden influx of questions by names unfamiliar to me at least anyway.
Peace
jagfug
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Hi,
My last order (5gms) from BM was flawless, came pretty quick (approx 5-7 days,not sure exactly how long, because i was away for 15 days at that time and mail pickup friend didn't remember exactly) right on the weight and again wonderful product.
I abused it a bit over 15 days last month (at least 30-50 mgs a day) because it's so good and now being off for a while for sleep cycle restoration :)
If you want some real amph for sure, go BM (or CC) but don't forget it IS strong.
makes me feel like a junkie for getting through a gram of BM's stuff in under 5 days :S
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Hi,
My last order (5gms) from BM was flawless, came pretty quick (approx 5-7 days,not sure exactly how long, because i was away for 15 days at that time and mail pickup friend didn't remember exactly) right on the weight and again wonderful product.
I abused it a bit over 15 days last month (at least 30-50 mgs a day) because it's so good and now being off for a while for sleep cycle restoration :)
If you want some real amph for sure, go BM (or CC) but don't forget it IS strong.
makes me feel like a junkie for getting through a gram of BM's stuff in under 5 days :S
Absolutely. You should be ashamed! - ;)
No, seriously I'm glad you popped in to say that. We need that solidarity. At the same time we do need to help those that may not understand the delicate relationship between certain vendors and their buyers.
If! They're legitimate.
I realized some of my advice in my last post was bordering on me assuming the role of SR Admin, and I quickly edited my post (prior to posting) to make that point.
If you have a beef with a vendor that we've come to accept, by all means, post it here. - If it's an old beef prior to 2013, don't bother.
Some vendor accounts that were rolling along pretty good, had nefarious characters in their organizations, though they saw it too late. When the shit hit the fan they were caught in the crossfire.
Those, like Boymaster that decided to keep their vendor account name (rather than the costly charge) really had to prove themselves. - I really didn't have much faith in BM based on the end of last years order mess ups. - I was the only one to speak out here about it.
Once BM was 'reactivated' I was there like a dog with his tail between his legs requesting my order. - The guy (whomever) took it in stride, and has been consistent in delivery for me.
That doesn't mean some people had their mail/orders intercepted or lost or whatever. - That's ALWAYS a possibility.
Take MaxHavelaar. This guy was set to become a major player here back at the end of last year. I spoke well of him, and he ran out of speed. Though he was vending other products, I made sure to keep lines of communication open, because I knew that, short of BM+CC, we were in a wilderness of speed quality, where you really had to be the guinea pig, and get burned here or there.
MaxHavelaar has shown to be a very respectable vendor, even though his specialty isn't speed. (I think he'd try to get whatever you wanted).
My 2nd order with him, when he 'finally' got that speed back that I liked so much, - got Intercepted. - US Customs- I got the letter to prove it. - Basically it was a slap on the wrist, - "Sorry you can't get that in the mail, so just to let you know, we took it" - "and it was great shit!" - I imagine that last part being totally true.
MH revamped his stealth methods, and overcame the odds. with a reship that was obviously opened at one point then stapled back together, it still made it! - and it was some pretty good speed, even though he stated it wasn't as good as last. You take BM+CC out of the picture, guys like him would be #1.
My point is. There's a lot of people jealous of BM + CC's rise to prominence here on the forums. The honest Vendors simply try and compete.
Then you have the 'darkside' of mankind. - I'm sure they walk amongst us.
I'm sure they're reading this right now.
So forgive me for sounding a tad too paranoid. It's not really paranoia. - It's called being careful based on my experience.
I hope I've made some kind of point here. - I often have trouble doing just that! ;)
- jagfug
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Jagfug: Your post has all the meanderings and long winded discussions of someone on some really good amphetamine, I assume you have taken some of BM's batch before writing that? 8)
For me, the greatest selling point is that BM/CC synthesize the product themselves. They have displayed enough knowledge of chemistry to validate that claim too.
I will almost always prefer to order specifically from a cook(although I hate the word cook) especially one who really understands the process. I wouldn't say they should be trusted more than any other vendor, but from experience I've noticed they tend to be less businessmen and more chemistry student with dubious morals.
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Somebody talked me into ordering some Mephedrone, but after reading some disturbing experiences I'm not sure I wanna try it once it arrives.
Ok, maybe one tiny line then to get a taste :D
Anyone tried this stuff yet?
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makes me feel like a junkie for getting through a gram of BM's stuff in under 5 days :S
Hehe, everyone has his own dosage... I'm pretty reactive to stimulants and naturally don't sleep much, and 50mg of BM or CC 's stuff can get me going for 24 hours without redosing ...which is of course why i love their stuff. So when i binge i try not exceed 48 hours without sleep because i start to look like a freak at work, fun but on the edge... 8)
I am sad :( to hear of the discontent surrounding Boymaster
Me too. This guy/team is offering the best non prescription amph you can find (also CC's) at a reasonable price and people tries to shot'em down. Jealousy... This is high quality amph you'll never be able to find locally except if you know some chemists. (or someone buying their stuff and reselling it non-cut!!)
Never had a problem with BM's shippings but had previous order from trusted vendor coming from Spain that did not make it through. It seems to be more a postal problem than a vendor one, in my opinion. Spain has maybe become a kinda watched border over time. Lots of cannabis flowing from there....
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Somebody talked me into ordering some Mephedrone, but after reading some disturbing experiences I'm not sure I wanna try it once it arrives.
Ok, maybe one tiny line then to get a taste :D
Anyone tried this stuff yet?
Yeah I did and didn't really like it.
Hurts like fuck to snort, you also need to do quite a bit to really feel it. 50+mg of powdered crystals works out to quite a fat line :P
You need to redose like every hour.. Too much work for me 8)
I'll take speed over it any day of the week. Bomb 100mg beginning of the evening and still be buzzing 8+ hours later, perfect IMO.
In other news, still no CC :(
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Jagfug: Your post has all the meanderings and long winded discussions of someone on some really good amphetamine, I assume you have taken some of BM's batch before writing that? 8)
- Guilty as charged! ;D - That was a real 'lost in the woods' post! If you knew me IRL you'd see I talk that much too, without speed! With it? I have to sequester myself from my loved ones, or they'll know something is wrong with jag! ;)
Somebody talked me into ordering some Mephedrone, but after reading some disturbing experiences I'm not sure I wanna try it once it arrives.
Ok, maybe one tiny line then to get a taste :D
Anyone tried this stuff yet?
I have, and it sucked. It was long before I found 'the road', and it was some online thing probably met through bluelight or something.
Anyway it was a shitty "trip" if you even could call it that. - To me it's like getting all the bad side effects of bad mescaline back in the 70's, and no real trip or great feeling.
The most visual it got was like a bit of static, like on an old Standard Def TV, if you had some interference and you'd see little wave patterns in the picture.
Add to that negative body effects. Intense sweating, chills, then the sensation of being in a hot room.
Sorry, but in my book that just doesn't qualify as a good drug experience. It made me very opinionated about all RC's. - That's why they're called RC's. If there was a good medical use for it
or a good high, some drug company would've found a way to push it out the door and into our lives!
I'm surprised to see so many of the younger gen doing that stuff. It's like there's either nothing else or they're afraid of what's deemed "the hard stuff"
I'll stick with the time tested big 4. Opiates, Stimulants, Downers (benzos etc), and Cannabis. (Hash for me, please! ;) )
I'd save it for when you are completely dry, and desperate for anything to take you a little out of reality. I did that with one of those XTC pills someone threw in as a bonus. Similar feeling, but I did start to get that whole empathy thing starting to happen. I was suddenly very concerned for the animals on TV. LoL- after hearing myself blabber on for two minutes, I locked myself in my bedroom. LoL!
Just my opinion! Some do consider those drugs 'stimulants' if not 'psychedelics' or 'dissociatives' , so it's not that off topic to discuss it here.
OK fractal, that's as pithy as I can make it! ::)
@Knomo -sorry to hear that- I'm sure it will be worked out. What with a new batch on the way and all. - I've been there, and it sucks. At least it's someone reputable + you know they'll work something out. - I've had to eat a few loses where the vendor was just like "too bad, I'm not responsible for the mailman" So it could be worse!
That being said, is CC still on for April 1st for the new batch? - I'm pretty psyched. (Also almost out of stock) :'(
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I've just started sniffing BM's speed (first time doing speed), is it supposed to burn the nose ? It's the yellow batch.
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I've just started sniffing BM's speed (first time doing speed), is it supposed to burn the nose ? It's the yellow batch.
It can be harsh on the old snout. Try letting it dry for a few hours. Like take out 50-100mg. And chop it as good as you can. I know it's not the easiest to powderize. Just keep it out for a few hours like I said, every once in a while go give it another chopping. I find that the harshness dissipates somewhat doing that.
Good Luck! - and try doing less also. ;-)
jagfug
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I've just started sniffing BM's speed (first time doing speed), is it supposed to burn the nose ? It's the yellow batch.
It can be harsh on the old snout. Try letting it dry for a few hours. Like take out 50-100mg. And chop it as good as you can. I know it's not the easiest to powderize. Just keep it out for a few hours like I said, every once in a while go give it another chopping. I find that the harshness dissipates somewhat doing that.
Good Luck! - and try doing less also. ;-)
jagfug
Yes, indeed, it's a bit pasty. I will let it dry then. SO far I've only done one 10mg and one 15mg line. It's quite good. :) I can easily see the addiction potential here.
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MaxH has pretty clean feeling amphetamine I think and ships quickly. Easy to get out dry altho it's been underweight for me but was reimbursed.
Waiting for a gram of BM and CC listings I will add 10mg of BM to every dose of the cleaner feeling speeds to see if I can get a little more wazoo in there. Only thing with MaxH stuff is I can't snort it, or I can but it gets in airways / lungs VERY easily somehow, but I prefer using all amphetamine orally. I just snort 1 line here and there a session for the lols.
L-phenylalanine has helped get the rush back. Also 7 days off...
Finally found a source for flunitrazepam outside of SR. I remember once when I was crashing on amph, I took 1 rohypnol and I got riiiiiight back up. My favourite and most interesting benzo indeed....... Somehow extends and levels out amphetamine rushes and puts me in a good mood. Diazepam just normalizes me (body stim) and I still feel crashy depressed.
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ping
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folate (folic acid) for quick neurotransmitter (dopamine and serotonin for my MD fans) regeneration.
beta block like propanolol when you over do it a little and want to get control of a heart beat/anxiety speeding out of control.
Those two things are cheap, safe and allow for continued maximum bio-hacking performance. by .00002btc
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Somebody talked me into ordering some Mephedrone, but after reading some disturbing experiences I'm not sure I wanna try it once it arrives.
Ok, maybe one tiny line then to get a taste :D
Anyone tried this stuff yet?
Yes. Once, earlier this year. Got some on the way now.
I LOVE it. Absolutely loved the stuff. For it's social high at least.
I found oral dosing to be KEY, and if you look at wertu's thread, you'll see people are really warming up to his pills.
First time I tried it, me and a a friend each railed 250 mg over the course of a few hours. Didn't do much and we both wrote it off as shit.
Fast forward a week and I decide to give it another go. This time 125 mg tossed in my water. HOLY FUCK! That time it was a totally different experience. It also made my water incredibly tasty which I found interesting.
Anyway, I repeated this again the following night with the same positive results.
Basically, it was everything I always expected MDMA to actually be like (but for me, isn't). Best way I can describe it was all of the positive qualities from amp/meth, coke, and MDMA all wrapped up into one. Just an incredible build of euphoria, warm fuzzy bliss that peaks to a plateau for 2-3 hours, with a gentle tapering afterglow that lasts 2+ hours or longer. Absolutely no hangover or downsides for me. Even when I redosed.
Had to order more myself for further experiments.
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Only thing with MaxH stuff is I can't snort it, or I can but it gets in airways / lungs VERY easily somehow, but I prefer using all amphetamine orally. I just snort 1 line here and there a session for the lols.
Yeah I don't know what's going on there but when I railed a big line last week it flew straight into the back of my throat :P Kinda nasty
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Same here with the MaxH, that fluffy structure is kinda like when I did an acetone wash but MaxH stuff is even fluffier. Can't even make decent lines out of it.
The amp lightly smells like some sort of petrol(?), so maybe it was cleaned with some petrolish substance. No idea really. All I know it does what it is supposed to do.
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haven't followed this thread much and i'm not really in mood to read the last 50 pages.
is there a new vendor with similar quality as BM and CC?
cheers!
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haven't followed this thread much and i'm not really in mood to read the last 50 pages.
is there a new vendor with similar quality as BM and CC?
cheers!
Nope. But I recall Ruthenium working on/planning on a new batch of Dextroamphetamine sulphate which is supposed to be pretty amazing quality.
Yes. Once, earlier this year. Got some on the way now.
I LOVE it. Absolutely loved the stuff. For it's social high at least.
I found oral dosing to be KEY, and if you look at wertu's thread, you'll see people are really warming up to his pills.
First time I tried it, me and a a friend each railed 250 mg over the course of a few hours. Didn't do much and we both wrote it off as shit.
Fast forward a week and I decide to give it another go. This time 125 mg tossed in my water. HOLY FUCK! That time it was a totally different experience. It also made my water incredibly tasty which I found interesting.
Anyway, I repeated this again the following night with the same positive results.
Basically, it was everything I always expected MDMA to actually be like (but for me, isn't). Best way I can describe it was all of the positive qualities from amp/meth, coke, and MDMA all wrapped up into one. Just an incredible build of euphoria, warm fuzzy bliss that peaks to a plateau for 2-3 hours, with a gentle tapering afterglow that lasts 2+ hours or longer. Absolutely no hangover or downsides for me. Even when I redosed.
Had to order more myself for further experiments.
Yea, you might be right. I railed 60mg and 15 minutes later another 60 or so and didn't feel anyting euphoric or pleasant. Only the tightest jaw ever and kinda weird vision when looking at bright lights and pupils the size of the moon if not bigger.
I blamed my amphetamine tolerance and lack of sleep and decided to give it a last try somewhere in the next weeks.
After reading your post my "somewhere in the next weeks" turned into "50 minutes ago" lol. Bombed about 100mg and now it feels kinda pleasurable and warm, but probably that dose is too low to feel full effects.
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haven't followed this thread much and i'm not really in mood to read the last 50 pages.
is there a new vendor with similar quality as BM and CC?
cheers!
If you're stateside, MrImporter seems to have a product i'd put toe to toe with BM's once you dry it. It's a paste, so it loses a bit of volume, but either snorted or eaten is effective. His prices are excellent and delivery is usually 3 days at most.
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@fartsinthewind (such a trustworthy name :P) - I get $ April 3rd, and will definitely be visiting MRImporter for a few maybe 5 g's, as well as BM, and hopefully as promised CC will have new listings up on April 1st! - Don't want to make "April Fools" out of us now, do you? -
It's amazing how we go from complaining about BM's wax (even CC) and then when we finally get some real crystalline powder (after drying) - some of us can't handle it!
If you have a little BM waxy batch left over, take your MX batch and mix it with BM"s stuff.
Should eliminate complaints . So! Anyone know for sure that CC is coming back Apr 1st?
I cant be the only one interested! I tried his stuff on a day where that's all I had on me, and we had a great drive to where we were going.
April should be a good month for speed!
(edited to correct errors 11pm EDT)
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@fartsinthewind (such a trustworthy name :P) - I get $ April 3rd, and will definitely be visiting MRImporter for a few maybe 5 g's, as well as BM, and hopefully as promised CC will have new listings up on April 1st! - Don't want to make "April Fools" out of us now, do you? -
Lol @ jagfug...i call myself fartsinthewind because nothing said in here really matters lol. Anyways, i'm getting ready to hit the two year mark on the road, I guess you could call me an old timer. I'm a regular BM customer too....just got a tasty 5g in today :) He is the best in the business for speed as far as I'm concerned. If you rely on quality speed to live an overly productive life like i do...you know to vary your suppliers ;)
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Hello Community! :)
Can anyone tell me (maybe someone who already ordered from Germany) if it is normal that my order from CapeCrusader 20 days ago is not there? I mean if i understand correct he´s sending from Africa and that it can take a little but what was the latest for his product to arrive? Thank you for your answers,
Acen. ;)
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folate (folic acid) for quick neurotransmitter (dopamine and serotonin for my MD fans) regeneration.
beta block like propanolol when you over do it a little and want to get control of a heart beat/anxiety speeding out of control.
Those two things are cheap, safe and allow for continued maximum bio-hacking performance. by .00002btc
There are conflicting reports on whether or not beta blockers are safe to take with strong stimulants, since the combination can cause very high blood pressure. Just a heads up.
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I wanted to ask a question about Holland Onlines speed:
It comes wet with some solvent in it, if I try the whole bag so that it evaporates will the quality decrease over time.
Some people say that when you have this kind of paste you need to keep it wet and only let a small quantitiy dry that you want to consume because when you dry it some amphetamien base evaporates too.
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folate (folic acid) for quick neurotransmitter (dopamine and serotonin for my MD fans) regeneration.
beta block like propanolol when you over do it a little and want to get control of a heart beat/anxiety speeding out of control.
Those two things are cheap, safe and allow for continued maximum bio-hacking performance. by .00002btc
There are conflicting reports on whether or not beta blockers are safe to take with strong stimulants, since the combination can cause very high blood pressure. Just a heads up.
Thanks for adding the safety warning; don't forget anal leakage. As with everything we put in our body. I can tell you from personal experience and all my speed friends that the combo lowers blood pressure, heart rate and anxiety.....for us. I always recommend starting at the lowest possible dose of beta blocker and increasing slowly. Checking blood pressure and seeing how your personal physiology is. It may be helpful that I am very good to my body, lots of sleep, exercise, and health checks.
Thanks again. I really shouldn't have made a quick recommendation for something that is a little complicated and definitely dangerous if it is not done correctly.
cheers
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has anyone tried CC's batch from a couple of weeks back? How did it compare to the batch before that?
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has anyone tried CC's batch from a couple of weeks back? How did it compare to the batch before that?
How many people have received one of the 2g samples from a couple of weeks back? I see three posts(including mine) from people who are still waiting. Not sure if I remember reading any from people who have gotten theirs yet.
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Just kind of as a general question, what are some of you taking as supplements who are regular speed users? I only take my daily multivitamin and fishoil (been on this regimen for 10 years) and some extra B12 every few days. I get reddish skin sometimes at work, and sweaty, I take tylenol, seems to combat that.
Also I use valium and/or alp if I can't get to sleep. I often get off at 10p and have to be back at work by 5a.
I did extensive web searches, but most of them pertain to adderall and meth, so I wanted to get kind of a general feedback here on supplements being taken to lessen undesirable side effects and/or ease tolerance breaks, since we are all pretty much taking the same stuff (in regards to CC and BM customers).
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A proper multivitamin not the shitty 100% rda ones.
fishoil but not every day, taken in the morning cause it causes me insomnia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noopept or a racetam
Most importantly l-phenylalanine, "further converted into dopamine, norepinephrine (noradrenaline), and epinephrine (adrenaline)."
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has anyone tried CC's batch from a couple of weeks back? How did it compare to the batch before that?
How many people have received one of the 2g samples from a couple of weeks back? I see three posts(including mine) from people who are still waiting. Not sure if I remember reading any from people who have gotten theirs yet.
I did. Buried in my long ramblings, I mention it got to US in 7 days, a record for him IMHO.
Quality- better than last. - Though had a slight waxyness, which some perfectionists might not like, it had an orange hue, which pretty much disappeared after a good hour of drying, and chopping with razor.
I took a long drive with a friend that takes a whole day round trip, and speed is always on the menu. This day, I only had left 1/2g of CC's batch, and we both noticed what a great euphoria we had.
Was a very sunshiny spring like day, which helped, but by the time we were on our way home, we were convinced there was something special about CC's gear. - No jitters, no chest tightening, yet we were very talkative, upbeat and positive, and surely speeding. It was just more cerebral than physical. I had heard that before about CC but never quite 'got it' until that day.
I hope those who haven't received, get a resolution soon. It does say on his profile page, that some customs can delay it up until 30 days. I was always prepared for that, and order from a few at a time, so there's a steady stream coming in.
Good Luck!
jagfug
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Anyone noticed an increase in outbreak of spots/acne while taking amp? Had some really nasty, painful spunk filled blobs appear in my head recently
A proper multivitamin not the shitty 100% rda ones.
fishoil but not every day, taken in the morning cause it causes me insomnia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noopept or a racetam
Most importantly l-phenylalanine, "further converted into dopamine, norepinephrine (noradrenaline), and epinephrine (adrenaline)."
I take l-tyrosine, which l-phenylalanine is converted into.
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Anyone noticed an increase in outbreak of spots/acne while taking amp? Had some really nasty, painful spunk filled blobs appear in my head recently
Yes! I thought it was just something to do with eating habits! I have about 5 pimples on my face! (I'm over 50!) - Any ideas anyone?
As far as nutrition, I'll down 1 Carnation Instant Breakfast with a glass of Almond milk each day, just to compensate for my lack of a proper diet.
Though nothings changed in months. - Just noticed the breakout 2 days ago, while shaving. - I've been doing MH, CC, and BM, if there's any relationship to the speed, we should probably list what we've had in our systems the past month.
It's not out of control breakouts. Just noticeable. - If I remember right, zinc supplements usually help with such things. Anyone else?
Seems mostly around the chin and nose area. Nothing above that area, for me anyway. Be interesting to see if there's a connection.
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@commodore and ohnoes, thanks! Do you take those daily (while using) or during breaks from usage?
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Magnesium! High absorption magnesium supplements are a must for any amount/frequency of amph use.
I bought Magnesium Citrate locally after researching it's importance (I basically cycle amphetamine use, more usually off, but in moderate, non-euphoric doses). I usually use it for the first few days recreationally then drop the dose down so I can just comfortably focus. I take enough to get a moderate mood boost, no-euphoria (euphoria distracts me from working and I feel like doing more exciting shit lol), for a couple of weeks then take 1-4 weeks off (longer off time sometimes).
But the citrate, although biovavailable at moderate doses, 50-100mg can make all the difference as to what physical form your next shit is lol. I use Doctor's Best High Absorption Magnesium from bodybuilding.com (cheap as fuck place, found them 7+ years ago; saved me a lot of cash over retail over the years. Canadian retail supplements are marked up 2x-4x as high as bb.com prices.)
So I'd highly recommend magnesium supplementation with any form that has good bioavailability, I love the one I mentioned in the last paragraph. Over my Mg research I came across some stats with plausible data sources that claimed that a majority of Americans only get 40-60% of the recommended daily intake. That doesn't factor in amphetamine use, so I knew that although I'm quite healthy, I doubt I was eating all the Mg I needed every single day. It also seems to stabilize tolerance to amphetmaine and (this can be good/bad depending on your usage): increases the pH of your urine (increased alkalinity). Alkaline urine (baking soda is popular for this) excretes amphetamine slower than more acidic urine. This correlates with initial absorption being affected by high stomach acidity (lower absorption) and low-acidity/alkaline stomach contents (increased intial absorption). That said, it's a good idea to not take Mg supplements during the day with aph use if you have sleeping problems.
I've noticed that I feel much better without amph and no burnout/crash when I stop using if I take magnesium, but I also take other sttuff that plays a role:
-Diphenhydramine (Benadryl): 50mgs beforoe sleeping. This apparently helps re-regulate neurotransmitters, dopamine included. This particular drug taken before bed had me feeling noticeably better than usual the next morning.
-Antioxidants: Vitamin C 1000mg + Bioflavinoids, EGCg with catechins- green tea extract. (both I get from bodybuilding.com and theyre dirt cheap. You may not notice a difference, but it can prevent/reduce neurotoxicity, and just overall keep your body in a healthier state. I would suggest the EGCg strongly because of it's price and effectiveness in preventing cancer, and enhancing immune system function, as proven in many clinical studies.
Magnesium should be at the top of your list though. Make sure its made up of mostly bioavailable sources of Mg!
EDIT: Jst wanted to stress that magnesium deficiency is common in North Americans, and the symptoms of deficiency are largely related to mood/mental function. People low in magnesium tend to have depressice, anxious or stress symptoms manifest more frequently than those that meet their daily targets.
I started taking Noopept (a nootropic, aka 'smart drug', like Piracetam or Aniracetam), which is neuroprotective and has a host of other overly optimistic claims. I noticed that my mood is better, and anxiety had improved in just a few days on 30mgs 2x/day (3x daily dosing is recommended but hard to make habit). So I was pleasantly surprised with it's subtle yet effective influence. When I'm on amph I only take 10mg or none at all, don't want to run into any problems with interactions. Been 3-5 weeks and its effects still seem to be there.
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CC where are you! We are waiting you ;)
Last info I had it was lists will be up again on 01.04.
Did I miss something?
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Regarding that pimple thing:
More dopamine causes higher testosterone levels which results (or can result) in worsening your skin condition and increasing growth of body hair, the latter of which I find pretty annoying... It also seems to me that oral consumption doesn't affect my skin as much as snorting...
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For those who PM'd me and I haven't responded yet: I'm not ignoring you, I have the flu and my back is killing me. Sometimes amphetamines make me think I can lift heavy things on my own when in reality I can't. Result: I'm hobbling around like Quasimodo on fever.
Just checking in now and then for CC listing update.
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Regarding acne, I find part of my problem is that I fidget on amphetamines. I mean I have these weird habits that I get into when I focus intently on something -- I'll rub my neck or face or play with my stubble or something. In fact for like 4 months when this all started I couldn't figure out why I kept getting rashes on the back of my hand whenever I was on a run. I thought it was some weird toxic reaction to high levels of amphetamine or something.
Turns out it's because I was rubbing my stubble with the back of my hand for 2 days straight. ::)
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Regarding acne, I find part of my problem is that I fidget on amphetamines. I mean I have these weird habits that I get into when I focus intently on something -- I'll rub my neck or face or play with my stubble or something. In fact for like 4 months when this all started I couldn't figure out why I kept getting rashes on the back of my hand whenever I was on a run. I thought it was some weird toxic reaction to high levels of amphetamine or something.
Turns out it's because I was rubbing my stubble with the back of my hand for 2 days straight. ::)
Hehe, exactly! I often have a rash on the back of my hand when speeding and focusing. More precisely on my backhand, the area of skin between my thumb and index finger from rubbing the stubble on my chin. Putting lotion on afterwards makes it burn more intense.
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Weird science:
While on amp I can still get the flu and hurt my back and suffer the symptoms from both but after re-dosing 12hrs later I feel as healthy as a fish in fresh water again. Not gonna lift heavy stuff or snort a line flu-bacteria though.
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Regarding acne, I find part of my problem is that I fidget on amphetamines. I mean I have these weird habits that I get into when I focus intently on something -- I'll rub my neck or face or play with my stubble or something. In fact for like 4 months when this all started I couldn't figure out why I kept getting rashes on the back of my hand whenever I was on a run. I thought it was some weird toxic reaction to high levels of amphetamine or something.
Turns out it's because I was rubbing my stubble with the back of my hand for 2 days straight. ::)
Hehe, exactly! I often have a rash on the back of my hand when speeding and focusing. More precisely on my backhand, the area of skin between my thumb and index finger from rubbing the stubble on my chin. Putting lotion on afterwards makes it burn more intense.
EDIT:
Weird science:
While on amp I can still get the flu and hurt my back and suffer the symptoms from both but after re-dosing 12hrs later I feel as healthy as a fish in fresh water again. Not gonna lift heavy stuff or snort a line flu-bacteria though.
Crazy you say that about the flu! I have had that happen twice this year...I felt the flu coming on, felt super sluggish with a sore throat before going to bed, woke up feeling shitty, dialed up about 150 mg amp and by lunchtime i was feeling fine! strange
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Yea, it's amazing isn't it. But I wouldn't be surprised if I feel even shittier tomorrow because of it though.
Maybe SelfSovereignty comes in and shakes a plausible explanation for this "miracle cure" out of his sleeve.
This guy always amazes me with his knowledge of the medical side of drug-(ab)use and he's usually spot on.
If it wasn't for social security and maybe a few other reasons I'd choose him as my personal doctor, lmao.
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Been doing a lot more research online about supplements to take with amp.
Just ordered l-tyrosine, L-phenylalanine, magnesium, 5-htp, and a b-vitamin booster.
The Magnesium i'll take daily, and the b-vitamin booster probably once every few days (they are usually like 500% RDA, lol).
The 5-HTP I have taken before sporadically after MDMA use, i guess it helped somewhat. It also helped me sleep a lot better, in conjunction with sublingual melatonin and diphenhydramine.
As far as the l-tyrosine and L-phenylalanine go, I will tinker with them at low doseages. My question is, do you guys take them while taking amp or only on breaks? Since amp is both a dopamine/seratonin release agent and has a secondary function of dopamine/seratonin reuptake inhibition, is adding these precursors into the mix a good idea? I've heard of certain isolated cases of people taking too much MDMA and 5-HTP concurrently resulting in some kind of acute serotonin syndrome. Also anybody tried L-Dopa?
Yeah, yeah...I know. I should take a couple weeks break, lol. That's all nice in theory, but when i wake up at 430 for a 14 hour shift...it is hard to abstain.
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Interesting revelations by the S/A crew!
I'm a stubble rubber too. Nervous tics I never had, yep, just like you said.
I love all the info on Amino Acid's like Tyrosine etc. - I was into that stuff back in like '89. I was D/A free for 7years, and those supplements helped me get through.
As far as Sham? - You're still on the disabled list!! - You shouldn't be doing any heavy lifting!! - (didn't you recently get injured?) - Take it EASY!! ::)
I too 'had the flu' today. From like 5 am till 5pm. (I crashed). I was paralyzed! ;) Was taking my temperature, turning the heat on, then off, alternating between sweating and shivering. :P
Got up, made dinner, ate very well. Feel a lot better, but my joints and muscles still ache.
Oh and the acne is gone. - Good hot shower, and Ivory soap.
So yeah, where's CC? - When's the new BM coming out? Stay on topic!! ::)
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For all you guys supplementing with l-tyrosine and whatnot, from Wikipedia:
"A non-food source of phenylalanine is the artificial sweetener aspartame. This compound, sold under the trade names Equal and NutraSweet, is metabolized by the body into several chemical byproducts including phenylalanine."
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"Phenylalanine uses the same active transport channel as tryptophan to cross the blood–brain barrier, and, in large quantities, interferes with the production of serotonin."
If you drink a lot of diet soda, you may not want to actually supplement with phenylalanine or l-tyrosine. Just an FYI.
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Doctor told me I should be alright as long as I take it easy. But lifting a laundry machine on my own wasn't "taking it easy enough" lmao. However, I finished the task, the misses was happy, but then the crash came 1 minute later. Just another thing on my dude-you're-not-20yrs-old-anymore list.
This list sometimes grows faster than I can actually age lol.
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For all you guys supplementing with l-tyrosine and whatnot, from Wikipedia:
"A non-food source of phenylalanine is the artificial sweetener aspartame. This compound, sold under the trade names Equal and NutraSweet, is metabolized by the body into several chemical byproducts including phenylalanine."
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"Phenylalanine uses the same active transport channel as tryptophan to cross the blood–brain barrier, and, in large quantities, interferes with the production of serotonin."
If you drink a lot of diet soda, you may not want to actually supplement with phenylalanine or l-tyrosine. Just an FYI.
Thanks for this. I do drink a lot of diet soda, and plan on starting with very low doses of either the tyrosine or phenylalanine to begin with. I'll keep an eye on it. In my limited understanding, when you take a stimulant like amp, your dopamine and to some level serotonin get released rapidly and then blocked at the receptor, so they bounce around a while aka you are high. Then when the receptor opens back up, you're depleted. I've even read that if you take certain precursors to serotonin or dopamine "on the comedown" that you're fooling your body into thinking it's replenishing itself with these hormones naturally, and over time its ability to replenish itself is diminished. This is much in the fashion that chapstick or eye drops work. I guess your body can stop producing things it normally does.
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OK Sham, you're off the hook. (for now) :-\
@SS, have you heard of the dangers in taking these protein isolates?
I'm not talking about the whole 'contaminated Tryptophan' which killed good sleep for many of us in the 90's.
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OK Sham, you're off the hook. (for now) :-\
@SS, have you heard of the dangers in taking these protein isolates?
I'm not talking about the whole 'contaminated Tryptophan' which killed good sleep for many of us in the 90's.
Nope, can't say I have. To be honest though man, I don't fuck with all that stuff. I just take a multivitamin. I mean a lower tolerance would be awesome, but I worry about what price you pay long term, ya know.
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OK Sham, you're off the hook. (for now) :-\
@SS, have you heard of the dangers in taking these protein isolates?
I'm not talking about the whole 'contaminated Tryptophan' which killed good sleep for many of us in the 90's.
Nope, can't say I have. To be honest though man, I don't fuck with all that stuff. I just take a multivitamin. I mean a lower tolerance would be awesome, but I worry about what price you pay long term, ya know.
Exactly! It's the long term that worries some. The whole 'splitting the protein molecule', may very well have the same unintended consequences as the "splitting of the atom".
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Since you guys mentioned 'good' and 'bad' multivitamins, what should I look for if I decide to start taking them? Any brand names I should look for etc.?
Cheers,
S.
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There's lots of times I feel like giving a +1 karma to someone in this thread, and I don't have the option to yet. Bummer.
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Yes I forgot to mention chelated magnesium. What brand and type is most important. I read chelated is the best along with some other, just found it in the health store but all other shit I just buy on eBay!
Anyone noticed an increase in outbreak of spots/acne while taking amp? Had some really nasty, painful spunk filled blobs appear in my head recently
A proper multivitamin not the shitty 100% rda ones.
fishoil but not every day, taken in the morning cause it causes me insomnia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noopept or a racetam
Most importantly l-phenylalanine, "further converted into dopamine, norepinephrine (noradrenaline), and epinephrine (adrenaline)."
I take l-tyrosine, which l-phenylalanine is converted into.
I've tried l-tyrosine. For whatever reason it doesn't work as good as l-phenylalanine at all for me. Maybe it's better when it starts from the top of the chain I don't know. I've experimented with most of them, DL-phenylalanine is worst, but all trustworthy brands are available on ebay.
so is noopept
@commodore and ohnoes, thanks! Do you take those daily (while using) or during breaks from usage?
while on and recovering. supposedly if you upregulate dopamine, serotonin is downregulated n vice versa.. so I have 5-htp around but I don't bother with it much.
Magnesium! High absorption magnesium supplements are a must for any amount/frequency of amph use.
I bought Magnesium Citrate locally after researching it's importance (I basically cycle amphetamine use, more usually off, but in moderate, non-euphoric doses). I usually use it for the first few days recreationally then drop the dose down so I can just comfortably focus. I take enough to get a moderate mood boost, no-euphoria (euphoria distracts me from working and I feel like doing more exciting shit lol), for a couple of weeks then take 1-4 weeks off (longer off time sometimes).
But the citrate, although biovavailable at moderate doses, 50-100mg can make all the difference as to what physical form your next shit is lol. I use Doctor's Best High Absorption Magnesium from bodybuilding.com (cheap as fuck place, found them 7+ years ago; saved me a lot of cash over retail over the years. Canadian retail supplements are marked up 2x-4x as high as bb.com prices.)
I started taking Noopept (a nootropic, aka 'smart drug', like Piracetam or Aniracetam), which is neuroprotective and has a host of other overly optimistic claims. I noticed that my mood is better, and anxiety had improved in just a few days on 30mgs 2x/day (3x daily dosing is recommended but hard to make habit). So I was pleasantly surprised with it's subtle yet effective influence. When I'm on amph I only take 10mg or none at all, don't want to run into any problems with interactions. Been 3-5 weeks and its effects still seem to be there.
yea I thought someone else might mention noopept too. Racetams in general are known to have a somewhat booster effect on stimulants. I haven't tried noopept with amph yet, just on it's own and it's a very good nootropic, cause regular racetams don't really do much. had decent run once but noopept is much better. also available on ebay lol..
I will try noopept, chelated magnsium together with maxh amp later tonight. I have tried a racetam blend before with mephedrone & methylone and it definitely helped the high. supposedly beneficial health-wise but can't comment.
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Regarding acne, I find part of my problem is that I fidget on amphetamines. I mean I have these weird habits that I get into when I focus intently on something -- I'll rub my neck or face or play with my stubble or something. In fact for like 4 months when this all started I couldn't figure out why I kept getting rashes on the back of my hand whenever I was on a run. I thought it was some weird toxic reaction to high levels of amphetamine or something.
Turns out it's because I was rubbing my stubble with the back of my hand for 2 days straight. ::)
Hehe, exactly! I often have a rash on the back of my hand when speeding and focusing. More precisely on my backhand, the area of skin between my thumb and index finger from rubbing the stubble on my chin. Putting lotion on afterwards makes it burn more intense.
EDIT:
Weird science:
While on amp I can still get the flu and hurt my back and suffer the symptoms from both but after re-dosing 12hrs later I feel as healthy as a fish in fresh water again. Not gonna lift heavy stuff or snort a line flu-bacteria though.
Crazy you say that about the flu! I have had that happen twice this year...I felt the flu coming on, felt super sluggish with a sore throat before going to bed, woke up feeling shitty, dialed up about 150 mg amp and by lunchtime i was feeling fine! strange
I read about some theories a while back, whom where stating that the way we see various diseases are very wrong.
According to these theories an abdominal influenza for example is pretty much a self cleaning function of the body. Puking -> cleaning the stomach, followed by fever, which helps secreting poisons and then diarrhea. I followed the suggested instructions provided in those theories the last time I had abdominal influenza and drank like 3 liters of water while sitting on the toilet, until clear water was leaving my ass ;).
I was healed right away and actually felt great (my brain probably provided some dopamine/serotonin ::)) , the whole thing didn't last more than 12 hours.
So my theory would be: Since you took amph your body switched into run/fight mode, which means no time for regeneration mode. Flu is suspended until autumn^^.
On the aspartame thing, I try to live a healthy life, apart from the drugs ofc, and therefore try to avoid any aspartame products in general.
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Regarding acne, I find part of my problem is that I fidget on amphetamines. I mean I have these weird habits that I get into when I focus intently on something -- I'll rub my neck or face or play with my stubble or something. In fact for like 4 months when this all started I couldn't figure out why I kept getting rashes on the back of my hand whenever I was on a run. I thought it was some weird toxic reaction to high levels of amphetamine or something.
Turns out it's because I was rubbing my stubble with the back of my hand for 2 days straight. ::)
Hehe, exactly! I often have a rash on the back of my hand when speeding and focusing. More precisely on my backhand, the area of skin between my thumb and index finger from rubbing the stubble on my chin. Putting lotion on afterwards makes it burn more intense.
EDIT:
Weird science:
While on amp I can still get the flu and hurt my back and suffer the symptoms from both but after re-dosing 12hrs later I feel as healthy as a fish in fresh water again. Not gonna lift heavy stuff or snort a line flu-bacteria though.
Crazy you say that about the flu! I have had that happen twice this year...I felt the flu coming on, felt super sluggish with a sore throat before going to bed, woke up feeling shitty, dialed up about 150 mg amp and by lunchtime i was feeling fine! strange
I read about some theories a while back, whom where stating that the way we see various diseases are very wrong.
According to these theories an abdominal influenza for example is pretty much a self cleaning function of the body. Puking -> cleaning the stomach, followed by fever, which helps secreting poisons and then diarrhea. I followed the suggested instructions provided in those theories the last time I had abdominal influenza and drank like 3 liters of water while sitting on the toilet, until clear water was leaving my ass ;).
I was healed right away and actually felt great (my brain probably provided some dopamine/serotonin ::)) , the whole thing didn't last more than 12 hours.
So my theory would be: Since you took amph your body switched into run/fight mode, which means no time for regeneration mode. Flu is suspended until autumn^^.
On the aspartame thing, I try to live a healthy life, apart from the drugs ofc, and therefore try to avoid any aspartame products in general.
I'm no doctor, but honestly, I seriously doubt that's why it helped. But you're basically right about the purpose of expelling things from your body. And FYI, aspartame is possibly the safest food additive in the modern world. Seriously, read about it in Wikipedia: apparently all the suspicion of it being harmful was propaganda. It's probably safer than refined sugar, anyway.
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Hi guys
I am in a difficult situation
I ordered 5 grams from BM that never came. I asked for a re-sending, he misunderstood something and thought he already had. After that he asked me for address. So I thought he was going to re-send, when he message me this there was only 24h to the Silk Road admin steps in. At the same time he offered me a 50% refund in the the resolution center. I did not realized if he were offering both or not. I got no response from BM in those 24 hours I sent him a few messages that he did not read before that time. 2 minutes before the time ran out I release payment, because I would much rather get re-sending than 50% refund and for the Purchasing stats.
Now I have not received message from him in 7 days. I have sent him few messages that he has read under 24 hours after I sent. I've been very professional no threats or such. I only want to know whether he were going to re-send. and if I should have gotten both 50% refund and re-sending.
the worst thing is that I would like purchase his amp again, it's kinda hard when he's not talking to me. I've just bought twice before and it was from BM so I've just traded with him through SR
I know I should not have release payment. But I thought BM was a good guy.
Some suggestions?
My first post on this
28 days for me waiting for BM. The last two times, it took 10 days. now BM is reshipping to me hopefully it will deliver.
He is also offering me 50% refund. I'm not sure that he is offering both. I have already message him about it and is waiting for a response. But there are only 5 hours to the Silk Road admin steps in. What should I do?
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@hamark - boymaster does look at this forum thread every so often. So give it another few days. There's supposed to be another batch coming out.
Let's all keep a close eye on this one. Check his FB page. Life would suck if we had a repeat of Dec-Jan.
I truly think he will contact you after reading this here. Keep us posted as well.
I'm on the eve of shopping day, so I'd like to think my 'old favorites' are still as they were.
Faith is a tough virtue on the SR.
jagfug
And now SR is down 00:49 UTC - oh well!
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@hamark - boymaster does look at this forum thread every so often. So give it another few days. There's supposed to be another batch coming out.
Let's all keep a close eye on this one. Check his FB page. Life would suck if we had a repeat of Dec-Jan.
I truly think he will contact you after reading this here. Keep us posted as well.
I'm on the eve of shopping day, so I'd like to think my 'old favorites' are still as they were.
Faith is a tough virtue on the SR.
jagfug
And now SR is down 00:49 UTC - oh well!
thanks for the support jagfug
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Regarding acne, I find part of my problem is that I fidget on amphetamines. I mean I have these weird habits that I get into when I focus intently on something -- I'll rub my neck or face or play with my stubble or something. In fact for like 4 months when this all started I couldn't figure out why I kept getting rashes on the back of my hand whenever I was on a run. I thought it was some weird toxic reaction to high levels of amphetamine or something.
Turns out it's because I was rubbing my stubble with the back of my hand for 2 days straight. ::)
Hehe, exactly! I often have a rash on the back of my hand when speeding and focusing. More precisely on my backhand, the area of skin between my thumb and index finger from rubbing the stubble on my chin. Putting lotion on afterwards makes it burn more intense.
EDIT:
Weird science:
While on amp I can still get the flu and hurt my back and suffer the symptoms from both but after re-dosing 12hrs later I feel as healthy as a fish in fresh water again. Not gonna lift heavy stuff or snort a line flu-bacteria though.
Crazy you say that about the flu! I have had that happen twice this year...I felt the flu coming on, felt super sluggish with a sore throat before going to bed, woke up feeling shitty, dialed up about 150 mg amp and by lunchtime i was feeling fine! strange
I read about some theories a while back, whom where stating that the way we see various diseases are very wrong.
According to these theories an abdominal influenza for example is pretty much a self cleaning function of the body. Puking -> cleaning the stomach, followed by fever, which helps secreting poisons and then diarrhea. I followed the suggested instructions provided in those theories the last time I had abdominal influenza and drank like 3 liters of water while sitting on the toilet, until clear water was leaving my ass ;).
I was healed right away and actually felt great (my brain probably provided some dopamine/serotonin ::)) , the whole thing didn't last more than 12 hours.
So my theory would be: Since you took amph your body switched into run/fight mode, which means no time for regeneration mode. Flu is suspended until autumn^^.
On the aspartame thing, I try to live a healthy life, apart from the drugs ofc, and therefore try to avoid any aspartame products in general.
I'm no doctor, but honestly, I seriously doubt that's why it helped. But you're basically right about the purpose of expelling things from your body. And FYI, aspartame is possibly the safest food additive in the modern world. Seriously, read about it in Wikipedia: apparently all the suspicion of it being harmful was propaganda. It's probably safer than refined sugar, anyway.
Sorry but you are not right here.
Aspartam is very very bad and compare it to normal sugar is just a joke, right? I mean hormone properties? Girls going in the adolescence sooner because of aspartam if I remember correct.
If you need an exchange for sugar maybe take a look at stevia.
take care
no_pain
.... no sugar free for me!
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Aspartame and hormonal changes?
No, hormonal changes are the result of feeding livestock hormones to increase growth/size and concurrently giving them large amounts of antibiotics so they don't die in the shit conditions of a commercial farm.
Hormones given to dairy cows are often excreted with the milk, and whoever drinks it will slowly change their body's hormone production and overall levels. In Canada we have strict laws against the use of hormones and antibiotics in dairy cows without isolating them and allowing the medicine to wash out naturally before it's milk is safe again. I think many US States have made regulations agains this as well, because livestock is probably the biggest cause of hormone imbalances. Aspartame is just an amino acid, non-essential, and like MSG, some people get side effects. People read into this as a an indicating factor that the chemical, product or whatever it may be is harmful for everyone. I'm not sure the implications of aspartame/phenylalanine overdose, but you can overdose on virtually anything.
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I couldn't find much of any reviews on this one. I think it deserves a good review. I just got my order in a few days back.
I think its because he's Canadian and his page has a few type-o's on it (English isn't his first language) so it looks a bit sketchy.
ARIGOLO (Canada Vendor)
Speed Pills
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion.to/silkroad/item/a11636494e
SHIPPING:
- Ships only on Mondays.
- Great Stealth, could easily pass an inspection into the envelope
- No sounds or rattling, vacum sealed
- Professional labeling, looking great
- Arrived as expected
QUALITY:
- Press well, different presses (Angry Birds, Converse All stars)
- Snortable and good to snort too. No burn, a pleasure to snort
- Lasts about 8-10 hrs when eaten and about 4 hrs when snorted
- No side effects or anything strange, slow and easy comedown.
- Best speed pills I've ever had.
- MUCH better than the rectangle 'ice' speed pills from other vendors. About 4 times as potent.
- One pill can be crushed and snorted throughout the day and last a whole day and more. (Nice!)
- Feels like a mixture of different amphetamines and no caffine or other additives. (I can tell if there is any Ephedra or shit added. .)
- Eyes will become dilated if you take more than 2 of them (and you will be flying)
NOTES:
- I feel these are the best speed pills going on the road. They are better than 'speed paste' or wet speed because they are already pressed and ready to take with you on the road. Plus, they will blend into a candy container and look like candies/ mints in your pocket.
- Other speed pills I've tried let me with headaches and jittery feelings. Not these. No tummy problems either.
- Some tablets are 'hot' and seem more potent than others, but that's ok
- They seem to be as effective as Ritalin or Adderal for concentration and working. Makes a great ADD/ADHD medication substitute.
- I use them daily at different doses to keep me moving along. I don't find it much of a crash when I stop for a few days. Seems fine, but then I dont' tweak hard either..
- I find them better than coke. Similar buzz, but lasts a lot longer. Great for going out at night.
- Makes a coke buzz last soooo much longer, but not too safe to be mixing these together of course.
I think people are really overlooking this listing. This is a product that should be in every drug users little box of goodies. Keep these on hand for those days you can't get out of bed and you need that extra push. . . They are gentle enough to take and go to work. Unlike coke or molly, or RC's or whatever.
You could sell these for $10-$20. /each and double/triple your money, if you are into that thing.
As for me, I'll stock up and keep many in my cabinet for those days that I need a little boost or spring in my step. :-)
Thanks Arigolo!
Thanks for this great review, I very much appreciate.
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sorry - off topic but important if you use www.instawallet.org like us and over 1.7million other users;
This warning is real! We've used www.instawallet.org to keep our coins on - they have over 1.7 million users - since the big SR shut down, you no - the one that lasted days!
For 2 days now we have been unable to access our wallet with a generic "Down for Maintenance" page. No way to contact them and this morning there were several posts from various sources that www.instawallet.org was gone as are any of the potential millions of bitcoins kept there.
sigh
8:00 A.M. April 3 - 2013
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=142313.0
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Regarding acne, I find part of my problem is that I fidget on amphetamines. I mean I have these weird habits that I get into when I focus intently on something -- I'll rub my neck or face or play with my stubble or something. In fact for like 4 months when this all started I couldn't figure out why I kept getting rashes on the back of my hand whenever I was on a run. I thought it was some weird toxic reaction to high levels of amphetamine or something.
Turns out it's because I was rubbing my stubble with the back of my hand for 2 days straight. ::)
Hehe, exactly! I often have a rash on the back of my hand when speeding and focusing. More precisely on my backhand, the area of skin between my thumb and index finger from rubbing the stubble on my chin. Putting lotion on afterwards makes it burn more intense.
EDIT:
Weird science:
While on amp I can still get the flu and hurt my back and suffer the symptoms from both but after re-dosing 12hrs later I feel as healthy as a fish in fresh water again. Not gonna lift heavy stuff or snort a line flu-bacteria though.
Crazy you say that about the flu! I have had that happen twice this year...I felt the flu coming on, felt super sluggish with a sore throat before going to bed, woke up feeling shitty, dialed up about 150 mg amp and by lunchtime i was feeling fine! strange
I read about some theories a while back, whom where stating that the way we see various diseases are very wrong.
According to these theories an abdominal influenza for example is pretty much a self cleaning function of the body. Puking -> cleaning the stomach, followed by fever, which helps secreting poisons and then diarrhea. I followed the suggested instructions provided in those theories the last time I had abdominal influenza and drank like 3 liters of water while sitting on the toilet, until clear water was leaving my ass ;).
I was healed right away and actually felt great (my brain probably provided some dopamine/serotonin ::)) , the whole thing didn't last more than 12 hours.
So my theory would be: Since you took amph your body switched into run/fight mode, which means no time for regeneration mode. Flu is suspended until autumn^^.
On the aspartame thing, I try to live a healthy life, apart from the drugs ofc, and therefore try to avoid any aspartame products in general.
I'm no doctor, but honestly, I seriously doubt that's why it helped. But you're basically right about the purpose of expelling things from your body. And FYI, aspartame is possibly the safest food additive in the modern world. Seriously, read about it in Wikipedia: apparently all the suspicion of it being harmful was propaganda. It's probably safer than refined sugar, anyway.
Well there are studies, whom say aspartame is harmful and studies who say the opposite. Since this world is driven by profit and the patent was held by Monsanto, my gut tells me to stay away from it, but I try to avoid sugar in general ::).
Providing a Wikipedia link to prove something makes me laugh :-*.
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For all you guys supplementing with l-tyrosine and whatnot, from Wikipedia:
"A non-food source of phenylalanine is the artificial sweetener aspartame. This compound, sold under the trade names Equal and NutraSweet, is metabolized by the body into several chemical byproducts including phenylalanine."
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"Phenylalanine uses the same active transport channel as tryptophan to cross the blood–brain barrier, and, in large quantities, interferes with the production of serotonin."
If you drink a lot of diet soda, you may not want to actually supplement with phenylalanine or l-tyrosine. Just an FYI.
Slightly offtopic, another interesting thing to note is that phenylalanine is the biological precursor to ephedrine in ephedra plants. If you look at the molecular structure of phenylalanine, you can kinda see the route.
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Kinda on-topic (for a change... :P ) CC is back online :)
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Hi guys
I am in a difficult situation
I ordered 5 grams from BM that never came. I asked for a re-sending, he misunderstood something and thought he already had. After that he asked me for address. So I thought he was going to re-send, when he message me this there was only 24h to the Silk Road admin steps in. At the same time he offered me a 50% refund in the the resolution center. I did not realized if he were offering both or not. I got no response from BM in those 24 hours I sent him a few messages that he did not read before that time. 2 minutes before the time ran out I release payment, because I would much rather get re-sending than 50% refund and for the Purchasing stats.
Now I have not received message from him in 7 days. I have sent him few messages that he has read under 24 hours after I sent. I've been very professional no threats or such. I only want to know whether he were going to re-send. and if I should have gotten both 50% refund and re-sending.
the worst thing is that I would like purchase his amp again, it's kinda hard when he's not talking to me. I've just bought twice before and it was from BM so I've just traded with him through SR
I know I should not have release payment. But I thought BM was a good guy.
Some suggestions?
My first post on this
28 days for me waiting for BM. The last two times, it took 10 days. now BM is reshipping to me hopefully it will deliver.
He is also offering me 50% refund. I'm not sure that he is offering both. I have already message him about it and is waiting for a response. But there are only 5 hours to the Silk Road admin steps in. What should I do?
is BM answering you all ?
is he maybe just sick?
He still has not message me :-\ :(
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Hi guys
I am in a difficult situation
I ordered 5 grams from BM that never came. I asked for a re-sending, he misunderstood something and thought he already had. After that he asked me for address. So I thought he was going to re-send, when he message me this there was only 24h to the Silk Road admin steps in. At the same time he offered me a 50% refund in the the resolution center. I did not realized if he were offering both or not. I got no response from BM in those 24 hours I sent him a few messages that he did not read before that time. 2 minutes before the time ran out I release payment, because I would much rather get re-sending than 50% refund and for the Purchasing stats.
Now I have not received message from him in 7 days. I have sent him few messages that he has read under 24 hours after I sent. I've been very professional no threats or such. I only want to know whether he were going to re-send. and if I should have gotten both 50% refund and re-sending.
the worst thing is that I would like purchase his amp again, it's kinda hard when he's not talking to me. I've just bought twice before and it was from BM so I've just traded with him through SR
I know I should not have release payment. But I thought BM was a good guy.
Some suggestions?
My first post on this
28 days for me waiting for BM. The last two times, it took 10 days. now BM is reshipping to me hopefully it will deliver.
He is also offering me 50% refund. I'm not sure that he is offering both. I have already message him about it and is waiting for a response. But there are only 5 hours to the Silk Road admin steps in. What should I do?
uhm.......that sounds bad. im also not sure what to do. i am still waiting(2g ordered 12.03 to germany) and he accepted my suggestion to extend period for 15 days last week(i started resolution center without writing him first). so with so many positive new feedback since i ordered i think its unlikely that he has gone mad again. still hoping it will show up and he is lucky for the btc (that are worth more than double by now if he has not hedged outside escrow) and i am for the speed, but it gets more unlikely with each day. i want to order from him again and thats why trouble would suck.
oh, and regarding the flu discussion. guess what i got over easter (around 20 days sober now)......lol.
now over 14days with priority mail from spain to ger and still counting........somehow mail-service just hates me (never sth got lost, but not first time i have to resolve to add extra time and this with eu-orders only).
i guess it sucks for the seller too, especially with those wild moving bc prices but just dont feel save to fe after what bm did a few month ago, sorry.
at least i can you guys say you wont have any bad physical withdrawal except 1 or 2 days sleep and a little itching when you get tired. that was all i had after taking around 2 month nonstop (12 days sober now). psychical craving is quite strong so.
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Hi guys
I am in a difficult situation
I ordered 5 grams from BM that never came. I asked for a re-sending, he misunderstood something and thought he already had. After that he asked me for address. So I thought he was going to re-send, when he message me this there was only 24h to the Silk Road admin steps in. At the same time he offered me a 50% refund in the the resolution center. I did not realized if he were offering both or not. I got no response from BM in those 24 hours I sent him a few messages that he did not read before that time. 2 minutes before the time ran out I release payment, because I would much rather get re-sending than 50% refund and for the Purchasing stats.
Now I have not received message from him in 7 days. I have sent him few messages that he has read under 24 hours after I sent. I've been very professional no threats or such. I only want to know whether he were going to re-send. and if I should have gotten both 50% refund and re-sending.
the worst thing is that I would like purchase his amp again, it's kinda hard when he's not talking to me. I've just bought twice before and it was from BM so I've just traded with him through SR
I know I should not have release payment. But I thought BM was a good guy.
Some suggestions?
My first post on this
28 days for me waiting for BM. The last two times, it took 10 days. now BM is reshipping to me hopefully it will deliver.
He is also offering me 50% refund. I'm not sure that he is offering both. I have already message him about it and is waiting for a response. But there are only 5 hours to the Silk Road admin steps in. What should I do?
uhm.......that sounds bad. im also not sure what to do. i am still waiting(2g ordered 12.03 to germany) and he accepted my suggestion to extend period for 15 days last week(i started resolution center without writing him first). so with so many positive new feedback since i ordered i think its unlikely that he has gone mad again. still hoping it will show up and he is lucky for the btc (that are worth more than double by now if he has not hedged outside escrow) and i am for the speed, but it gets more unlikely with each day. i want to order from him again and thats why trouble would suck.
oh, and regarding the flu discussion. guess what i got over easter (around 20 days sober now)......lol.
now over 14days with priority mail from spain to ger and still counting........somehow mail-service just hates me (never sth got lost, but not first time i have to resolve to add extra time and this with eu-orders only).
i guess it sucks for the seller too, especially with those wild moving bc prices but just dont feel save to fe after what bm did a few month ago, sorry.
at least i can you guys say you wont have any bad physical withdrawal except 1 or 2 days sleep and a little itching when you get tired. that was all i had after taking around 2 month nonstop (12 days sober now). psychical craving is quite strong so.
@nomnom1
has he been responding to your message?
wow bitcoin is falling :S
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@hamark
i have not written any message to him by now. just wrote in the resolution center (nothing received yet. i hope to receive it today or tomorrow. if not that could take quite some more time with easter-hollidays.....of course i will finalize as soon as i get it.if you somehow need the money fast (cashflow or whyever) and this is a problem then write me and i rethink it.cya) and he accepted without saying anything, but this was last week (27.03).
would be interesting if the missing orders are from the same delivery date.
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Hi freax, just a short question: Has anyone of you tried Interway´s amph so far, and is satisfied with it??
I gave his service a try some time ago, and I´m thinkin´ about beeing a com-back-customer of his offer soon.
Any opinions are welcome, as the possibility of discussing experiences is really wonderful... ;)
btw. I´m wishin´ every1 the best while crossing fingers concerning your arrivals, when following this thread...
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@Knomo - Thanks for keeping it real! I wasn't going to advertize, what with the suspicious feedback BM has been getting.
If Boymaster is out there - Time to get honest. This is the forum that can make or brake you.
Anyone would be crazy to order until there are some answers.
Sorry, but I seem to always be the one to have to call these vendors out. - Guess it's just the Newyawka in me! - They hate me where I live now! LoL!
When you're used to the best of everything in life, you find it intolerable to accept anything less.
Personal responsibility should not be considered a 'delicacy'
- jagfug
PS. Lets move the "health food" shit to another board. - We're shoving chemicals of uncertain origin into our bodies! - You're not going to live forever!
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I couldn't find much of any reviews on this one. I think it deserves a good review. I just got my order in a few days back.
I think its because he's Canadian and his page has a few type-o's on it (English isn't his first language) so it looks a bit sketchy.
ARIGOLO (Canada Vendor)
Speed Pills
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion.to/silkroad/item/a11636494e
SHIPPING:
- Ships only on Mondays.
- Great Stealth, could easily pass an inspection into the envelope
- No sounds or rattling, vacum sealed
- Professional labeling, looking great
- Arrived as expected
QUALITY:
- Press well, different presses (Angry Birds, Converse All stars)
- Snortable and good to snort too. No burn, a pleasure to snort
- Lasts about 8-10 hrs when eaten and about 4 hrs when snorted
- No side effects or anything strange, slow and easy comedown.
- Best speed pills I've ever had.
- MUCH better than the rectangle 'ice' speed pills from other vendors. About 4 times as potent.
- One pill can be crushed and snorted throughout the day and last a whole day and more. (Nice!)
- Feels like a mixture of different amphetamines and no caffine or other additives. (I can tell if there is any Ephedra or shit added. .)
- Eyes will become dilated if you take more than 2 of them (and you will be flying)
NOTES:
- I feel these are the best speed pills going on the road. They are better than 'speed paste' or wet speed because they are already pressed and ready to take with you on the road. Plus, they will blend into a candy container and look like candies/ mints in your pocket.
- Other speed pills I've tried let me with headaches and jittery feelings. Not these. No tummy problems either.
- Some tablets are 'hot' and seem more potent than others, but that's ok
- They seem to be as effective as Ritalin or Adderal for concentration and working. Makes a great ADD/ADHD medication substitute.
- I use them daily at different doses to keep me moving along. I don't find it much of a crash when I stop for a few days. Seems fine, but then I dont' tweak hard either..
- I find them better than coke. Similar buzz, but lasts a lot longer. Great for going out at night.
- Makes a coke buzz last soooo much longer, but not too safe to be mixing these together of course.
I think people are really overlooking this listing. This is a product that should be in every drug users little box of goodies. Keep these on hand for those days you can't get out of bed and you need that extra push. . . They are gentle enough to take and go to work. Unlike coke or molly, or RC's or whatever.
You could sell these for $10-$20. /each and double/triple your money, if you are into that thing.
As for me, I'll stock up and keep many in my cabinet for those days that I need a little boost or spring in my step. :-)
Thanks Arigolo!
Thanks for this great review, I very much appreciate.
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I second that Arigolo! Ever since a customer recommended you (Regicide), I haven't bought my speed or meth anywhere else. If you want to flip these pills locally, giving a free sample of 1 or 2 pills will have your phone ringing in 24 hours.
If you prefer snorting/eating/plugging your speed/meth, this is a great value. Clean and consistent with nothing psychoactive except m-amph. Since you can't smoke or IV it without filtering the pills many times. I don't IV or smoke meth so this stuff is great (feels equivalent to 40-60mg d-amph or adderall). I usually do it recreationally the day of arrival and ten cut down to 0.5-1 pill epr day for studyng, work, etc. usually 2 weeks on 2+ weeks off.
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This is the forum that can make or brake you.
WORD! +1 for you, as EVERYONE gets what he deserves here, and that´s really good that way imo.
Very helpful, useful, and worthy, so keep on spreadin´ the infos about every little detail -
and post all the facts honestly, freakx... ;)
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@Jagfug
-The problem with the last orders has been explained, it will be solved as soon as possible with either reship or refund. No one has been scamming here, it was an unfortunate mistake. Anyway, 24 orders from 1214 didn't arrive, most of them in the last incident. I gives us a success rate of 98,023% which I think is good enough considering the problems that this business face.
-The name was set by a non-english speaking person. Now it can't be changed, so it will remain as it is. Like it or not, it's not my problem.
If you don't want to buy from us, nice, just fuck off and stop writing bullshit and messing up things.
Greets
BM
Boymaster !!! - Welcome back to the forums!! - Sorry, but I knew I'd bring you out of hiding with that! - It was all a rouse to get your attention. (Psych major 1st year of University)
I'm glad you ended that post with "greets". Show's no hard feelings. - I'm just like the rest that LOVED your speed, prices, and delivery time and stealth.
I'm not fucking things up. I hope you realize that. I just wanted to "bring you out" here, and I succeeded. I hope my fellow amph forum people appreaciate that.
They've been dying to hear from you, as if you were a Rock Star, that hasn't put out an album in a year!!!
So thanks for coming out of the woodwork, and defending your honor Boymaster. - and sorry for attacking the name. - I mean look at my name!!! - Kinda wide open for jokes there.
Anyway, no hard feelings.
I just wanted to challenge you to come on here.
We'll all be back, including myself, as soon as you announce your return !!!
Do it under another name if you want! Just tell us! - There's so much negative feedback on that name now, It's really pointless, unless you know you can rely on those on here that are faithful customers.
Either way. Feliz Navidad Boymaster. - Sorry for the Comedy Roast. - But I'm glad you made it to the Holiday Party !!!
Everyone!! Raise your glass, bong, foil, needle, vaporizor, pill vial, whatever, to BOYMASTER !!!
Happy Christmas Everyone !!!
No hard feelings Boymaster !!! - I still love you too !!!
@oNLiN3fR3aK - Thanks! - The above quote from Dec 21st 2012, shows how my 'prodding' worked.
I was pretty rough on him, if anyone wants to look at the posts I made leading up to this. Though it was not 'out of line'. It was what EVERYONE should have been doing.
Not one forum member ever backed me up. They were just happy good speed was back, and to hell with everyone else. To each their own. Here I thought I was in the presence of wise and great men. Certainly their posts were not the posts of dummies.
Lilliputian's is all they were.
I'm proud to show the backbone I was raised to have. The willingness to stick my neck out, at the expense of losing favor.
That being said, I'm still not sure every single buyer got reconciliation. A few have sprung up here or there in the meantime that haven't, but few, with the exception of SelfSovereignty have shown concern.
There is a bit of a language barrier with BM, and I understand that. Also this latest problem could be the result of enhanced methods by customs and other LE to thwart the freedom enjoyed by us all.
Though until I hear some kind of response? - I'm going to bring this up every day, until it gets resolved.
I would hope my fellow S/A thread pals would do the same for me, though I have nothing to base that upon.
Not trying to be a problem. - Just trying to solve one.
edited to remove clutter from quote- too many already quoting giant posts (I'm on to them too ;) )
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@Jag: I just read your posts from late December and the BM story and all. Certainly deserves a +1 for straight forwardness and honesty and yes, for daring to criticize were criticism is due!
btw: I lolled at a part somewhere when you're "raging" about CrystalMethCat and the way she writes lol.
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Sorry but you are not right here.
Aspartam is very very bad and compare it to normal sugar is just a joke, right? I mean hormone properties? Girls going in the adolescence sooner because of aspartam if I remember correct.
If you need an exchange for sugar maybe take a look at stevia.
take care
no_pain
.... no sugar free for me!
I'm always open to being wrong, but if you're going to tell me I'm wrong, at least bother to contradict the references I cited, eh?
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@Jag: I just read your posts from late December and the BM story and all. Certainly deserves a +1 for straight forwardness and honesty and yes, for daring to criticize were criticism is due!
btw: I lolled at a part somewhere when you're "raging" about CrystalMethCat and the way she writes lol.
I appreciate your appreciation ::)
I laugh at myself constantly when I review posts. Though that one in particular, proved to be prophetic. Someone even replied I give her (he/she/them?-maybe it was a tranny/feline?) the benefit of the doubt. - Check that "cats" FB. They came back on after a total ripoff of customers, with the whole "agree to change a 1 to a 5 and I'll rock your world". I extended an olive branch, but CrystalMethCat never responded. CrytalMethCat is still a scammer until further notice! ;)
@SS- I want to get into it so bad, about the bogus claims on aspartame, but I already asked for it to be taken "outside". LoL
(ps. I agree)
EDIT
PPS - I PM'd BM on SR, to alert him to the current claims on here. - His actual FB doesn't reflect any problems. If anything, the problems are a result of a busy busy vendor.
I'm still giving him the benefit of the doubt, just to be clear.
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Just throwing it out there, I recieved my BM amph a few weeks ago, and given that I'm from Aus, if BM were to scam anyone I assume it'd be me.
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@fractalglobal Great input!
The more I think about it, 2 "missing" claims, may not warrant such speculation. I'm just trying to keep everyone on the level.
The fact that the last we heard was an announcement of a "new batch" and prices being cut (though barely 5%), sure sounded promising.
On the other hand it sounds like the perfect "See ya suckers", as the BTC price skyrocketed.
Can't blame me for being suspicious. In all likelihood, he's been so busy procuring the new batch, that he hasn't had the time to take on the forums.
I hope my suspicions are just the result of a paranoid guy from a city where you know not to carry money in your wallet!
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BM finally answered me
he is going to re-send. I feel the it is thanks to you jagfug. Thank you very much for taking my side. You are my favorite person here
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Just throwing it out there, I recieved my BM amph a few weeks ago, and given that I'm from Aus, if BM were to scam anyone I assume it'd be me.
Same here, ordered last week, arrived today. Everything in order. Trying out my first BM batch....I feel like a kid that just got a Christmas (Easter?) present!
I'm new to SR and have been reading this thread a lot these last couple of weeks, BM's stuff got me really excited, gonna try out CC's new listings as well.
This is a great thread, keep it up everyone!
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. . .and a collective sigh of relief is felt across the S/A thread. ;)
False alarms are good training, and serve to notify the community, "We're paying attention".
In a totally selfish way, I'm glad everything is OK. ;D
BTW- I had TWO flawless orders from him in the past 30 days! That doesn't mean I won't speak up. I even have one in now.
If we all look out for one another, only good can result.
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Woah that BM stuff is strong...
I've done about 0.080 and tweaking like never before.
Don't have much experience with amph...but I can compare the batches I've bought on SR when I was using up my remaining bitcoins:
* NaturalWeed - "AMPHETAMINE Speed Paste 1 gramm": Average strength, used 0.25 in a day, little bit euphoria, got me really nervous with a headache after. Took painkiller, slept OK that night. Cheap though. Weight spot on. Fast shipping, good stealth.
* bloemenstudio - "2.5g Speed": very wet, after drying only 1.25g remained...average strength, little bit euphoria, average body load. Focused, motivated. Fast shipping, good stealth.
* schizofreen - 5 grams (no longer listed): Pretty decent stuff, got me going nicely with 0.25g (as he indicated in the description), heavy body load though. Chest and arms tight, heart pounding, got me quite uncomfortable for a while. Cheap if I remember correctly. Order(s) took pretty long to arrive.
* BoyMaster - "5g of Speed--Amphetamine sulfate": really strong, waves of euphoria after 0.05g + 0.03g. Peaked after an hour or 2. Focused, motivated, increased heart rate but pretty low body load compared to the others. Completely different experience compared to everything else I've ever tried (including non-SR stuff). Weight spot on. Fast shipping, stealth OK, not as good as others though.
Note that I really lack experience (at using) and ways to describe the goods. Many factors will have influenced my experiences and quite some time was spread between these different batches. But thats my 2 cents.
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Longtime BM customer here, thinking of pulling the trigger on CC...just for the hell of it. I'm guessing his transit times to us are probably around 2 weeks? I'm not too worried about that, but is CC's stealth on par with BM's?
BM's used to be a bit shoddy, but my last couple orders have been stellar stealth! And of course you can't beat 5 days spain --> USA.
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CC is on par with BM for stealth.
Speaking of BM, I have to apologize for getting a little too paranoid about late or missing orders.
In PM's back + forth, I got a much better understanding for how it is to deal with tons of scammers messaging him saying "I never got my stuff". For him to weed through fact and fiction takes a lot of time and energy. Can you imagine dealing with that? I wouldn't want that job. (Unless you paid me in speed ;))
The ones I spoke up about, Hamark and the other, had gone to resolution relatively fast, and it's a lot to sort out.
I have a much better understanding of what it's like 'on the other side' of this Road. BM is an honorable guy, without a doubt. Next time someone has trouble with a late order/no show order, list the day order was placed. What country (within reason of protecting anonymity), how long the buyer has been on the Road, etc. - It's good to stick up for, and stick together, true, but I overreacted a bit.
Lesson learned. :)
- jagfug
Waiting on Mr Importer (US vendor), CC, + BM. (and Synergy for few adderall priority mailed to get me through the weekend) ;)
Edit; +1 Karma @ThalerLager Buyers Review on Speed/Amph is the name of the game! ;) Thanks for some 'fresh' reviews.
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Longtime BM customer here, thinking of pulling the trigger on CC...just for the hell of it. I'm guessing his transit times to us are probably around 2 weeks? I'm not too worried about that, but is CC's stealth on par with BM's?
BM's used to be a bit shoddy, but my last couple orders have been stellar stealth! And of course you can't beat 5 days spain --> USA.
I've only received 1 package from BM and CC and I would say BM's packaging is slightly better. My BM order was a couple of months back definitely wasn't shoddy
CC's packaging is fine though, all sealed up etc so you shouldn't have any problems and in my opinion is amp is better in terms of euphoria
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for those in the know...how similar is the process in producing d-amp compared to dl-amp(which is what I assume everyone sells here)?
Would you get the same issues with producers not cleaning the product properly and therefore ending up with paste?
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Anyone tried budworx new speed listings yet?
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@c64: Synthesizing d-amphetamine only is quite complicated and neither practical nor financially attractive imho. Separating d-amphetamine and l-amphetamine is quite easy using exactly calculated amounts of tartaric acid and sodium hydroxide though. The downside of this is the loss of 50% precursor since I don't know if oxidizing/dehydrogenating the l-amphetamine back to P2NP or maybe P2AP is possible/practical. Pretty sure it's possible. Thing is that most likely nobody ever thought about it as everyone craves amphetamine ;)
edit... practical... do you even say that? in the sense of "doable with a reasonable amount of work/material"?
True, however a member here who has previously produced and sold d-amph(and is putting listings up for it again quite soon) tells me that reamination of l-amph is possible. I do believe he uses a completely different method.
I wouldn't call resolving dl-amph "quite easy" though...
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lol - jag´s got a brand new avatar - what happenend? ;D
Do you have any relation to that pic, bro?
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@c64: Synthesizing d-amphetamine only is quite complicated and neither practical nor financially attractive imho. Separating d-amphetamine and l-amphetamine is quite easy using exactly calculated amounts of tartaric acid and sodium hydroxide though. The downside of this is the loss of 50% precursor since I don't know if oxidizing/dehydrogenating the l-amphetamine back to P2NP or maybe P2AP is possible/practical. Pretty sure it's possible. Thing is that most likely nobody ever thought about it as everyone craves amphetamine ;)
edit... practical... do you even say that? in the sense of "doable with a reasonable amount of work/material"?
True, however a member here who has previously produced and sold d-amph(and is putting listings up for it again quite soon) tells me that reamination of l-amph is possible. I do believe he uses a completely different method.
I wouldn't call resolving dl-amph "quite easy" though...
There you go:
Dextro is made from the HI/P reduction of pseudonorephedrine.
Because this substance does already have the chiral carbon in the right rotation, all you need to do is kick that bloody OH on the alpha carbon and you have the dextro.
Edit: Might be interesting. Found a patent on how to make pseudonorephedrine from Norephedrine, which you can order online^^. But my english and chemistry knowledge are too bad, so I can't say if this is possible in a clandestine lab..
http://www.google.com/patents/US7465830
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/317500?lang=en®ion=US
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lol - jag´s got a brand new avatar - what happened? ;D
Do you have any relation to that pic, bro?
Only you, oNLiN3fR3aK , would point that out in the middle of such scholarly offerings in chemistry. (OK, I admit it, us Americans are Chemistry Illiterate)
That was none other than Professor Frink - a character on The Simpsons. At least he used to be, back when it was funny. What do you think of my newer one? Annoying? :o
"edit... practical... do you even say that? in the sense of "doable with a reasonable amount of work/material"?
Yes! That is proper English! Thank you. As a descendant of English speaking people, in a once great land.
I'm a a dying breed, who still believes that Borders, Language, and Culture, are what define a country. I seem to be a minority (not just because I'm a white hetero Christian male). I mean because of my principles. The USA is Occupied Territory. You may have seen the phony staged occupy movements leading up to the choreographed election last year. It was all bought and paid for by the real 1% who put Obama in office. Does Soros ring any bells? ???
@kybzmsrf - I never would have known English wasn't your first language, until you asked that question! ;)
So! Any good speed reviews or news? - Forgive my rant. I'm out of speed, and on the horse. Only thing I can get 'next day'. It's a nice break though. ;)
Edited to remove overkill on the geopolitical crap. Though I left a bit in which I still like. ;D
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I recently placed a few orders from Mr. Importer, the new USA domestic vendor. Quality is definitely on par with the other German/Dutch vendors I've used, although I haven't yet tried out the top folks like CC, MH, or BM - the latter is next on my list to try.
My first two orders were for 1g of paste, and both arrived soaking wet and very underweight. Now obviously when you buy paste you expect the final useable powder to be ~1/2 of your paste order, but I don't think the paste itself should arrive underweight and when I said something to Mr. Importer he agreed and offered to refund my money. I like his product and the availability of a domestic vendor who ships quickly and cheaply, so I declined and said as long as future orders didn't have the same issue we were square. I ordered 2 grams a few days later and made no mention of our previous conversations in the order field, but Importer remembered our conversation on his own and my order arrived significantly overweight, making up for what was missing on the first two orders and then some. I really appreciate a vendor who works to make things right when issues arise and Mr/ Importer went above and beyond what was necessary here. I don't like making international orders very often, so I'm definitely sold as a continued customer.
Stealth on the package isn't that great, but for small amounts of domestic powder it's fine. The info on the label is good but the presentation could be more professional. Ship times are great, package is actually in transit when status changes on SR, and orders 1 and 3 arrived two days after order was shipped. The middle one took an extra day but the labels on the package clearly showed the post date/time as consistent with the vendor's provided updates, so it was obviously a USPS delay and of course those things happen.
Importer isn't chatty but he responds quickly when it counts and doesn't forget his promises - you can't ask for more than that.
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Here here! Good to hear the support for MrImporter. While my current order is only my 2nd with MI, I too appreciate the timeliness of a 'domestic' US vendor, where I could only wince when I heard the term domestic vendor, in the past when it came to speed.
When + if you try CC or BM, you will want to make sure your seatbelt is buckled. MI offers speed in the upper mid-range as far as regular Dutch goes. IMHO
CC is strong, yet light, as in dextroamphetamine. A drug I was originally disappointed with after using Adderall, however with time, and maturity in the speed field, I've come to truly love that refined quality, and you're only going to find it with CC.
BM on the other hand, is quite the "rocket-fuel". I know I'm not alone here when I say that. His New Year batch that hit the market in early 2013, while having some minor leftover additive(need better term there sorry), basically the whole 'wax' thing you've most likely read before, was and is still the absolute strongest speed you've never tried! See what I did there? ;D - New batch coming out soon!!!
Glad to hear I'm not the only guy in the US, that is happy to report our only true vendor is good, and being mentioned in the same post as BM+CC, certainly is considered being in 'good company'. ;)
jagfug
PS Geez! What the hell was I posting before? - That's getting an edit. :-[ (sorry)
PPS [EDIT] - @thedude413- call me paranoid, but have you ever thought that listing your buyer stats, was making LEO's job that much easier? Or unsavory journalists (is there any other kind?) for that matter. - There's a reason that the only ones who are privy to that are those you've engaged in a transaction.
Again, that's IMHO. I could be wrong. :-\
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has anyone of you ever made any experiences with the service of "PROLINE" ? ::)
His vendor page and his offer looks quite decent imo. Therefore -
any opinions about Proline are welcome - as I can´t find a thread about him here @ our forum.
thx in advance ;-)
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has anyone of you ever made any experiences with the service of "PROLINE" ? ::)
His vendor page and his offer looks quite decent imo. Therefore -
any opinions about Proline are welcome - as I can´t find a thread about him here @ our forum.
thx in advance ;-)
I ordered from Proline about 5 months ago. Speed was very heavily cut with caffeine and the packaging was very average (I'm lucky it got through to Australia). Also it was sent from Netherlands, not Germany like it said on the item description. Anyway, it might be better now because I've seen decent reviews on his vendor page.
Sure, it's more expensive, but BoyMaster has awesome speed. 5gm to Australia and it is very high purity. Worth paying the extra - I'd definitely recommend BoyMaster!
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has anyone of you ever made any experiences with the service of "PROLINE" ? ::)
His vendor page and his offer looks quite decent imo. Therefore -
any opinions about Proline are welcome - as I can´t find a thread about him here @ our forum.
thx in advance ;-)
Yo oNLiN3fR3aK ! Why do you keep pushing for Proline? Sounds like shill talk to me. What's the deal?
Not much going on in speed land atm. I think that's why my peers are remaining silent. (also, what's the deal with Marky-Mark? Are you gay for him?) - LoL!!
Just busting balls. (an art I perfected) ;)
Peace
jagfug
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No or few info or reviews about a vendor usually means: "not much to see here, please move on" without considering any possible hidden gems out there.
He's from Germany (or is it really Holland?) so my guess would be if you like Powerade and Co then Proline will be alright, and worse than HollandOnline.
Don't take my word for it though, it's just a gut feeling based on nothing and maybe his stuff is actually awesome. But it won't be "pure" if that's what you're looking for, I think.
Offtopic: just had an hypochondriac moment again lol.
It felt like my body temperature was increasing by the minute and was like oh shit, I didn't drink for a while, my brain is dehydrated and I'm overheating.
No idea why exactly I came up with dehydration, I have no idea what the symptoms are except for maybe thirst and it's not like I didn't drink for a day? So I grabbed one of those special gym-drinks (they taste good, I don't go to the gym lol).
Turned out the heating was still set on 28°C (or 82F for the Yanks lol). For some stupid reason that's the default temperature after switching it on and normally I lower it right away but I guess something else caught my attention first. And one of the radiators is pretty much right by me but still far enough to not notice the glowing heat.
These are stupid things but still there's always that slight feeling of relief and "oh you..." (said with a deep, manly voice of course :-))
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Wut up yall! ive never tried any of these amps so i was trying to get some suggestions for oral dosages. i plan on ordering from capecrusader any feedback is appreciated
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Wut up yall! ive never tried any of these amps so i was trying to get some suggestions for oral dosages. i plan on ordering from capecrusader any feedback is appreciated
OK noob, the 1st one is free, after that, I wanna see some btcs!!- (jk)
Start with 50mg. Up the nose, unless you prefer otherwise. Try 25mg in each nostril if they're clear.
@Sham - Sounds like withdrawal to me! ;D The whole temperature thing?? We're going through spring, and here in New England, it's been a real old fashioned one. No early warm days. A real normal (non global warming) spring. Al Gore is laughing at us somewhere. :P
I hope you have orders in like I do! ;)
Peace
jagfug
PS 5 hours from now, I should have more than I need! ;D ( one can hope, anyway!)
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@jag: really didn´t catch you - as I was just asking for some opinions, not more, not less.
I don´t push anybody here as long as I haven´t made any experiences myself.
Concerning Marky, I just love his looking-around as it remains me in a very special way ;-)
Do you like this avatar, too ;D ?
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@kybzmsrf:
I'd say roughly 50% of the amphetamine in pretty much every vendor's speed would be d-amph, and 50% l-amph ;)
A polarimeter will not be required :P
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Wut up yall! ive never tried any of these amps so i was trying to get some suggestions for oral dosages. i plan on ordering from capecrusader any feedback is appreciated
@yodude
Depends what effect you are trying to get.
Cape crusader's amp is almost pure, so taking 11mg is about equal to 10mg of adderall. For studying I take MAX 20mg oral at once or else I'm too speedy to do work. Usually take 15mg and redose with 10mg every 3 hrs or so as necessary.
If you want more of a euphoric, party high I'd suggest 30 - 40 mg and take more as necessary.
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Hi guys ;D Another newbie to SR amps here.
The street speed in my area has gone done in quality so much. I rely on it for studying, socializing, and appetite suppression. Out of the good vendors (CC, BM, HO), which has the best product for that?
Also I still live with my siblings (awkward huh?). Anyways, sometimes my sister opens all the mail - not to be nosy, just out of habit - so I was wondering who has the best stealth?
Thanks guys !
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boymaster is a pedophile
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boymaster is a pedophile
BoyMaster just gave me a 12 hour speed high & 14 hour comedown for less than $3.
The speed from BM was perfect - And a very reasonable price!
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If you search for some German good stuff, heres the Forum link from the new Seller Arnachy:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=142344.0
Stuff looks/taste/buzz´s legit
-Miss Kotape
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boymaster is a pedophile
And you're British. Where's the distinction?
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boymaster is a pedophile
Nah he actually kidnaps the children to take their adrenal glands. You cant get those from corpses you know.
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boymaster is a pedophile
Nah he actually kidnaps the children to take their adrenal glands. You cant get those from corpses you know.
Hey, if they aren't mine or my neighbor's and he doesn't bring me down by telling me about it... fuck it, do what ya gotta do man, just get me that amphetamine one way or another.
(no, I'm not serious, you nuts -- don't even like his gear)
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Uhhh... speaking of the adrenal gland thief... why has all his listings other than 1g disappeared?
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Because he is out of stock of his filthy yellow waxy gear. It is amphetamine for sure but I dont really liked it.
I am looking for some more physical speed with less high any suggestions?
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Anyone know when Mr. Importer is expected to be back up? Thought I would check here before bothering him with a PM.
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shameless self-promotion 8) ;D
#############################SPRING SALE !####################################
WE LOWERED OUR PRICES QUITE A BIT !
ALSO ALL SHIPPING OPTIONS WORK NOW.
BULK ACCOUNT ONLINE VERY VERY SOON.
SHIPPING 7/7
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Anyone tried HighSupply's speed paste?
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Well I'd like to make a little review for FrankMatthews, he sent me a 1g sample.
Im a rarely amp's user, usually pop them for study or cleaning the house.
-He's packet took 13 days from EU to South America. the packaging was very professional, nicely vac sealed and decoyed, only problem is that some left over speed left a stain on the decoy (not on the envelope however witch was discrete and little)
I only ordered from BM in the past so ill use his stuff as a yardstick/comparison.
The product itself,
-Smell: Frank's speed had a "friendlier" and very very less intense smell compared to BM's .
-Consistency: Very pasty/wet, I opened it and left it 2 days to dry on the drawer, and it is now very powdery and easy to use, what was stuck to the baggie sides unstuck and is very easy to manipulate
(i never dried BM's stuff and already put most of it in caps witch was a little complicated haha)
-Weight: Sorry to not be able to tell how much was lost in the drying process since I have no longer a scale but a friend who also received the sample weighted it and it was 1,858g (wet + baggie) if he dries it and weights it I'll update.
UPD, friend says it weights 500mg dried and out of the baggie.
-A little try of it: I was playing with the baggie appreciating the beauty of the compound and said, what the heck lets see how it tastes
I took a very very low dose, like 3 flakes picked with a plane screwdriver. (I guess it might be somewhere between 10 and 25mg pardon the looseness of the description).
I felt a little mood boost, not much, after taking it i drank a cup of coffee (witch tasted incredible) and started cleaning the room. the effects where not intense after the little peak and lasted a couple of hours
It was as drinking coffee (witch I did hah) but longer duration and more willing to do stuff
I'd say it is more physical than BM's stuff a more speedy body. However it is not a fair comparison since i dosed very little etc.
-So overall, I find it interesting, i want to try it someday in a club to socialize and dance it seems perfect for it. I had very little to almost no dry mouth neither i got much hunger suppression.
Right now, i took BM's 25-30mg (tried to do it sublingually but failed due to taste and fear to damage my teeth) 1 hour ago and am still mentally high feeling good.
I never snorted amps, i took other drugs such as mdma, bk-mdma, 4fa, xanax and some psychedelics but never daily.
Supplements , I take a supplement some days witch has
lecithin 85mg || L-Phenylalanine 255mg || B1 0,45mg || b6 0.6mg || b12 0,65 mcg ||
also take magnesium 528mg = 86mg of elemental mg after the trips.
and 1 melatonin pill 3mg before sleeping daily for a week now
Hope somebody finds this useful or interesting at least :p
If some sentences are off or weird it might be because English is not my native language.
Unrelated: A couple of questions.
-Do you let BM's stuff dry (its not wet but it doesn't pulverize easily), will it become a little less sticky?
-How will the tolerance work for repeated low doses?, I'm interested of taking 10-15mg of BM's before starting to study and 10mg a couple of hours after that, because it is too much when I take 30, i just lose time sitting or laying for a while feeling good hahaha.
Edit:updated weight.
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a well written review, nice job, although I´m not a customer of his service.
But providing honest and useable infos here for the community is always welcome.
+1 for you.
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To @estefi123
Repeated low use doesn't really cause tolerance. But getting that euphoric feeling will just become harder and harder. Keep your doses low. Give yourself a couple days a week (at least the weekend) to rest/eat too.
On another note, THIS BM SHORTAGE IS DRIVING ME UP THE WALL. I have a need...for speed :-X
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*UPDATE: I added a option to choose if you want to have your order shipped from The Netherlands or Belgium
So all Orders can now be shipped from Belgium
Also within a few weeks there will be super special price deals on all cocaine offers (Crazy Mercury31 Week!!!)
keep an eye out for this week i will announce it 2days before it starts.
Within a few days i will sell Crystal Meth and perhaps some Heroin if there's demand for it.
So if you are worried to have to order my products from the netherlands i will now ship from Belgium for a little extra
also AUSTRALIAN customers can choose the extra stealth option.
If you have any question about custom deals or products contact me at my SR vendor page:http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/0959809f11
Regards,Mercury31
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To @estefi123
Repeated low use doesn't really cause tolerance. But getting that euphoric feeling will just become harder and harder. Keep your doses low. Give yourself a couple days a week (at least the weekend) to rest/eat too.
On another note, THIS BM SHORTAGE IS DRIVING ME UP THE WALL. I have a need...for speed :-X
Amphetamine tolerance is odd. Your body adjusts incredibly quickly to it; I just wanted to point out that repeated "low" doses most certainly will cause tolerance. I think the problem is that everyone's idea of "low dose" differs, but the fact of the matter is if you use amphetamine on a daily basis, you will develop a tolerance to most of its effects.
For example, tolerance develops quickly to its hunger suppression and to some degree the insomnia it causes; people taking adderall every day eat pretty much the same way they did before they started, and they sleep every night too. Well... the one's who don't abuse it, anyway.
As for euphoria... it's just my own opinion from my own experience, but if you try to chase the euphoria more than very infrequently, amphetamines will devour you -- and in the end, you'll still lose the euphoria.
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boy master stuff is rediculous. smells so so soo delicious and it got to me in 4 days. yes. 4 days to eastern us
monday shipped, thursday arrival/snort
DE-LISH-OUSS
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Not much action going on here lately?
Anyone received from CC yet? From the new listing, not the test-orders from last month.
I'm hoping for Monday.
Finally some speed I like again. Sorry BM, your speed kills me if I use it frequently.
Lately everything I ordered had something fucked up about it.
Few times it was unsnortable powder, or mixed with weird stuff making me freak out.
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im waiting on 2g from CC its only been like 2 days though will update on arrival. i have no speed experiece though i plan on eating it with mdma
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Everyone repeat after me: i'm going to take this weekend off....i'm going to take this weekend off....i'm going to take this weekend off
8)
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Received from BM in 7 days to North America.
Decent stealth. One thing about the package was that it did not have a return address. Perhaps this is why some people have not received theirs?
Tried a tiny bit of the product and it seems to be quality stuff.
Still waiting for my 2g sample of the new batch from CC, almost at a month. He has kindly offered a reship and I will definitely take him up on it.
Thanks to all that contribute to this thread.
Let the good times roll!
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Not much action going on here lately?
Anyone received from CC yet? From the new listing, not the test-orders from last month.
I'm hoping for Monday.
Finally some speed I like again. Sorry BM, your speed kills me if I use it frequently.
Lately everything I ordered had something fucked up about it.
Few times it was unsnortable powder, or mixed with weird stuff making me freak out.
Everyone repeat after me: i'm going to take this weekend off....i'm going to take this weekend off....i'm going to take this weekend off
8)
@FITW - I did last weekend! Can I skip this one? :D - - Clearly you have speed wisdom. I'm definitely learning to cool it on the dosages, and the amount of consecutive days I use it. I think my Feb-Mar 'hogwild' buying spree, taught me a lesson.
@SS You too are always on the mark when it comes to the use and abuse of amph. Glad to have guys like you here. Helps me keep my 'addiction barometer' a little better calibrated. I've definitely gotten some "speed maturity" from you and others on here. 8)
@Sham - I should see a CC order soon too hopefully. That early March 'sample' took 7 days! A record :o - Though I know not to expect that everytime.
This time-ordered Wed the 3rd-in transit Fri the 5th, so I expect to see it early next week. Might even come tomorrow! ;)(Sat)- I'm covered either way.
I already put in another order with CC since then bc BM's listings were down. :( Not out of impatience. It was because I was watching my USD's disappear with every screen refresh, so I just grabbed another CC ord, and one from MrImporter . - Had I 'slept on it' - I would be about $50 poorer!
Damn ฿TC speculators!
So Boymaster ! - Listings are back up! Does this mean 'new batch' ??? - Please let us know!
Peace everyone
jagfug
PS BTW for US buyers- Thumbs up to Mr Importer. Improved stealth, and quality. Batch I got last week? For me? It comes in 3rd place after BM + CC.
Can't get a better endorsement than that!
PPS @ Blerbadoo - sorry to hear about the lost one. I've had my share of losses too. At least it's an exemplary Vendor like CC. Quite a few losses, I've just eaten, and moved on. Resolution isn't all it's cracked up to be, and certain vendors take the position of "not my responsibility what the mailman does" -I've actually seen that on a profile! - Then you have the whole 'refund' tarnishing your buyer stats. - Also I've always had a return address on my BM orders, and I've had quite a few! - check the back (don't want to give away anymore detail than that)
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Keep this thread alive!! Made an order of 2g from BM , in transit. I'm excited & impatient!!!
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im waiting on 2g from CC its only been like 2 days though will update on arrival. i have no speed experiece though i plan on eating it with mdma
I would recommend taking the speed by itself. MDMA has Amphetamine properties, so mixing MDMA + Amphetamine will just make you very speedy & worked up. It will also kill off the MDMA high. Amphetamine also lasts much longer than MDMA. I've heard CapeCrusader's speed is very strong. For a first time user I'd recommend about 30mg of speed by itself. Also unlike MDMA, you don't peak quickly. Speed takes about 3 hours to peak (if eaten), so don't redose until at least 3 hours after you've taken your initial dose. Seed is not something you want to accidentally have too much of. It is not as forgiving as MDMA. Take too much and you'll be in for an unpleasant 12+ hours and have a 2 day comedown.
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Any word on when BM's new batch is going to be ready?
Absolutely frothing for it!
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Received from BM in 7 days to North America.
Decent stealth. One thing about the package was that it did not have a return address. Perhaps this is why some people have not received theirs?
Tried a tiny bit of the product and it seems to be quality stuff.
Still waiting for my 2g sample of the new batch from CC, almost at a month. He has kindly offered a reship and I will definitely take him up on it.
Thanks to all that contribute to this thread.
Let the good times roll!
No, the return address thing is a myth
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Received from BM in 7 days to North America.
Decent stealth. One thing about the package was that it did not have a return address. Perhaps this is why some people have not received theirs?
Tried a tiny bit of the product and it seems to be quality stuff.
Still waiting for my 2g sample of the new batch from CC, almost at a month. He has kindly offered a reship and I will definitely take him up on it.
Thanks to all that contribute to this thread.
Let the good times roll!
No, the return address thing is a myth
Don't you think that makes it look more suspicious for customs though?
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wow, where is everyone? :D
BM still same old I guess? wtf happened to the BTC rate?! sucks. anything new that's any good?
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Really happy with CrystalMethodUK's batch, I don't think it's massively potent (though stronger than HO, FM and BDD's batches) but it's very clean in its effects.
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Hello buddies,
The listings down-up thing was just an IRL problem of a worker so we couldn't make new packages for some days.
The good news are that the new batch will be released the next Thursday or Friday at the latest. Anyway I'll come here to inform you when it's released.
By the while, the batch has been thoroughly cleaned, tested and dried. We have introduced a quality control procedure so the batches will be always perfect. The procedure has been improved iteration by iteration, reaching to almost perfection. You would have to look VERY deeply to see the differences between our Amphetamine sulfate and the Pharmaceutical grade amph.
In conclusion this Speed is really superb, the best we have done so far, you'll be amazed.
Cheers
BM
Holy shit! My nostrals opened wider and a note started rolling itself as I was reading this.
Cheers for the update BM!
Beyond excited for this..
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Boymaster,
what would u say the purity difference is between your last batch, which i received last week to this new one?
thanks
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How about BM's new batch?
Is it still yellow and waxy with that smell?
I hope to see some lad results soon!
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Where did Cape Crusader go btw?
I saw a few listings of him the past days...
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.. the new batch will be released the next Thursday or Friday at the latest. Anyway I'll come here to inform you when it's released.
By the while, the batch has been thoroughly cleaned, tested and dried. We have introduced a quality control procedure so the batches will be always perfect. The procedure has been improved iteration by iteration, reaching to almost perfection. You would have to look VERY deeply to see the differences between our Amphetamine sulfate and the Pharmaceutical grade amph.
In conclusion this Speed is really superb, the best we have done so far, you'll be amazed.
Cheers
BM
Boymaster,
what would u say the purity difference is between your last batch, which i received last week to this new one?
He already gave enough details. He doesn't usually hang around for questions afterward. It was all I could do to get him on here to bring you that!. He already said "pharmacy grade pure". I think that says it all. - He's a busy man! Let him get to it! How about BM's new batch?
Is it still yellow and waxy with that smell?
Read what boymaster wrote before you post! I think he explained it pretty well, and from the sounds of it, the answer to your question is no.
Though it's rare to find speed with 'no smell'. I've become so accustomed to that smell/taste, I actually LIKE IT! ::) - Really! I'll lick the card I'm cutting lines with, for that nasty taste!
I'd be happy to get what he sent to me last week. A little yellow, a little waxy, not as bad as it was back in January. Still the strongest speed on SR!
The fact that he's promising an improvement on that? Is excellent fucking news! ;D - I'm going to have to sell some material goods, just to make sure I have the ฿tc's for the launch of the new batch!
As far a CC, says he was last seen today. Seems to have gotten a few interceptions that could have backed him up, so he took his listings down, so he doesn't fall behind. He's done that before. That's what a good vendor does. Instead of complaining they got too many orders, they're supposed to take down their listings until they know they can fill them in a timely manner. - It's all good here kiddies. - This is a golden age for speed lately, don't worry about the minor details. If you know them like the rest of us do, you'd know everything is going great! - Even better than before!! ;D
I'm totally fucking psyched!!! 8)
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Have to give MrImporter some more props here...BM and CC's work stand on their own merit, but MI has upped his wet paste amount sent to actually reflect what is advertised as dry powder, super powdery, and pretty potent. A nice little kick of euphoria too. Nice work MI! 8)
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Holy shit! My nostrals opened wider and a note started rolling itself as I was reading this.
Cheers for the update BM!
Beyond excited for this..
I lolled imagining the magical self rolling note happening.
wow, where is everyone? :D
BM still same old I guess? wtf happened to the BTC rate?! sucks. anything new that's any good?
I'm just waiting for my CC order to arrive somewhere next week, but hopefully Monday already.
In the meantime I'm playing around with my 0.5g of meth which can't be gone quick enough. I'm gonna stay clear of that shit.
Initially I wasn't sold on it at all when there's speed already but after some proper testing the past 2 days I can see it's addicting potential.
Especially smoked!! At first smoking wasn't enjoyable, maybe my body wasn't used to this new substance yet, I dunno.
But now? Holy fuck, does that shit gets me hiiiiiiiiiiigh. Plus it tastes heavenly!
But it's just too dangerous. If I don't eat alot and drink gallons of water I quickly find my body temperature at levels I'm uncomfortable with.
Speed is bad too, but this stuff could wreck me in no time if I don't keep all the "rules" in mind.
Though it's rare to find speed with 'no smell'. I've become so accustomed to that smell/taste, I actually LIKE IT! ::) - Really! I'll lick the card I'm cutting lines with, for that nasty taste!
I'd be happy to get what he sent to me last week. A little yellow, a little waxy, not as bad as it was back in January. Still the strongest speed on SR!
I agree the smell is addicting. It smells Satan's ass and has a scent of pure danger.
CapeCrusader's speed smells like that too, but milder, like Satan took a shower first, shaved and put some aftershave on, getting ready to go out to poke hot chicks all night.
With most other speed, the typical dutch smelling one, by the time I get at the bottom of my 5g baggie I'm so sick of that smell it gives me the shivers right before I rail those lines.
Might check out BM's new batch to see if it still gives me that imagined, intense body load, caused by the public opinion like they said. Unfortunately it is very real to me with BM's speed.
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@SS You too are always on the mark when it comes to the use and abuse of amph. Glad to have guys like you here. Helps me keep my 'addiction barometer' a little better calibrated. I've definitely gotten some "speed maturity" from you and others on here. 8)
Happy to help, brother. That's what I'm here for: to show people exactly what you shouldn't do :P
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Greetings
Listings were taken down due to the recent insane volatility of the bitcoin. They will be back up in the next 2 or 3 days.
Thanks
CC
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Can any one recommend s decent American speed vendor. I Want to try it for the first time and I.want to make sure I get the best quality possible. I would go through a EU vendor but I don't feel like taking the customs risk.
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Can any one recommend s decent American speed vendor. I Want to try it for the first time and I.want to make sure I get the best quality possible. I would go through a EU vendor but I don't feel like taking the customs risk.
MrImporter (not sure about the correct name).
He's the only US-based speed vendor as far as I know and his stuff is decent (they say).
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Received another lovely package from CC. Longest transit time I can remember (Over two weeks), but this is my favorite speed batch of all time. Very good packaging in my opinion. It has a light cream hue that arrived dry. Very little to no smell. I have a moderate tolerance, but even with a small dose I have great euphoria. Best euphoria, best speed. Still very functional with no body-load. I'm not even going to reagent test this stuff.
Long live our crusader. I always make sure I have BM an CC, but CC is my new crown jewel.
I would be very surprised if these packages are being discovered. Long delivery is more likely.
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im waiting on 2g from CC its only been like 2 days though will update on arrival. i have no speed experiece though i plan on eating it with mdma
I would recommend taking the speed by itself. MDMA has Amphetamine properties, so mixing MDMA + Amphetamine will just make you very speedy & worked up. It will also kill off the MDMA high. Amphetamine also lasts much longer than MDMA. I've heard CapeCrusader's speed is very strong. For a first time user I'd recommend about 30mg of speed by itself. Also unlike MDMA, you don't peak quickly. Speed takes about 3 hours to peak (if eaten), so don't redose until at least 3 hours after you've taken your initial dose. Seed is not something you want to accidentally have too much of. It is not as forgiving as MDMA. Take too much and you'll be in for an unpleasant 12+ hours and have a 2 day comedown.
Shit I appreciate the heads up! That strong really? Im actually pretty excited! Just wished he shipped from some where a little closer. So do you not think any amount of that amphetamine would intensify some mdma?
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Though it's rare to find speed with 'no smell'. I've become so accustomed to that smell/taste, I actually LIKE IT! ::) - Really! I'll lick the card I'm cutting lines with, for that nasty taste!
I'd be happy to get what he sent to me last week. A little yellow, a little waxy, not as bad as it was back in January. Still the strongest speed on SR!
I agree the smell is addicting. It smells Satan's ass and has a scent of pure danger.
CapeCrusader's speed smells like that too, but milder, like Satan took a shower first, shaved and put some aftershave on, getting ready to go out to poke hot chicks all night.
With most other speed, the typical dutch smelling one, by the time I get at the bottom of my 5g baggie I'm so sick of that smell it gives me the shivers right before I rail those lines.
Might check out BM's new batch to see if it still gives me that imagined, intense body load, caused by the public opinion like they said. Unfortunately it is very real to me with BM's speed.
Sham! Where do I begin with you! You make me truly laugh out loud! ;D
This one right here deserves to be put in the SR Forum Hall of Fame;
"I agree the smell is addicting. It smells Satan's ass and has a scent of pure danger.
CapeCrusader's speed smells like that too, but milder, like Satan took a shower first, shaved and put some aftershave on, getting ready to go out to poke hot chicks all night."
Pure fucking gold! ;D
Also, watch out with that meth! Man it's a good thing we aren't friends IRL! :o - I've been tempted to try meth, but always think of Breaking Bad, or those photos on the internet of mug shots of people busted for meth, then 6 months later again, then a few months later. It looks like they have aids! If you've never seen it, I'll find you the link. That, and the fact that it's neurotoxic wheras amphetamine is not. (or so I've read)
I like to flirt with danger too, don't get me wrong. I like to order a little H once a month and I really shouldn't. I was badly addicted to RX opiates. Went through 2 horrible cold turkeys. - Anyway, I was curious to try H as I never had. I only snort it or smoke it, and it really isn't as addictive (to me) as the pills were. Still, I keep wanting to get it each month, so I know I gotta watch myself there. It's my Achilles Heel. - So BE CAREFUL!!!
Can any one recommend s decent American speed vendor. I Want to try it for the first time and I.want to make sure I get the best quality possible. I would go through a EU vendor but I don't feel like taking the customs risk.
MrImporter (not sure about the correct name).
He's the only US-based speed vendor as far as I know and his stuff is decent (they say).
@CradleofMILF (great nic btw) - All you had to do was read like 1 or 2 pages back to find that out! You're lucky were mostly nice guys on this thread, some of threads for other substances, they'd get on your case so much for not at least attempting to research back a few pages, you'd feel like they just beat you up in an alleyway! :o
I can tell you for sure, as I did on the last page, that MrImporter is the 1 and only amphetamine vendor (so far as I've seen lately) Hiroprotagonist is another one, though his is sold more as an adderall substitute, and I'm not quite sure what it is, though he says it's amphetamine. I prefer the Dutch quality of MrImporter.
Also, don't be afraid to order from BM or CC! - Both blend in with your mail, you'd be surprised. Both arrive with your regular mail, and blend in among bills, cards, junkmail. etc.
Welcome to Amphetamineland !!!
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@CradleofMILF (great nic btw) - All youhad to do was read like 1 or 2 pages back to find that out! You're lucky were mostly nice guys on this thread, some of threads for other substances, they'd get on your case so much for not at least attempting to research back afew pages, you'd feel like they just beat you up in an alleyway!
Ican tell you for sure, as I did on the last page, that MrImporter is the 1 and only amphetamine vendor (so far as I've seen lately) Hiroprotagonist is another one, though his is soldmore as an adderall substitute, and I'm not quite sure what it is, though he says it's amphetamine. I prefer the Dutch quality of MrImporter.
Also, don't be afraid to order from BM or CC! - Both blend in with your mail, you'd be surprised. Both arrive with your regular mail, and blend in among bills, cards, junkmail. etc.
Welcome to Amphetamineland !!!
Normally I would research a few pages back but I have been all over the forums today as it is my first day having full access to posting in them. Imust say I am extremely psyched about the cheap prices of speed. I am used to meth which the prices are quite higher for.
Maybe I will take a stab at a EU vendorof they really are that stealthy. Also what do u recommend when it comes to roas.? I am a smoker when itcomez to meth. And what forms does the substance come in?
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You probably don't want to smoke amphetamine sulfate (speed). It works, but you scorch half or more of it away I believe. Certainly burns nothing like meth, anyway. I swallow everything, myself, but that's just preference really. I enjoy the sensation more from oral doses.
If CC has listings up, I'm all about him. I literally don't bother with any other speed vendor. I tried BM, but I just don't like his gear -- it works wonderfully for many though. From a fellow meth head, fair warning, you're gonna need almost twice as much speed as meth to get equivalent effects. It also doesn't last as long; just so you don't think a gram of speed will go as far as a gram of meth and end up disappointed, ya know.
A lot of people consider speed to be just a weaker, shitty form of meth. I don't -- to me they feel different enough to both be worthwhile, but whatever. You may be awfully disappointed is all I'm getting at.
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Looking through my feedback, from the beginning of december to now I've managed to get through
5g of isthisis
5g of capecrusader
8g of boymaster
It seems like a lot, but then it is over a 4.5 month period. Might have to knock this habit on the head. I've had a few 5 day breaks during that time, only ever felt mild withdrawal during the first break
im waiting on 2g from CC its only been like 2 days though will update on arrival. i have no speed experiece though i plan on eating it with mdma
I would recommend taking the speed by itself. MDMA has Amphetamine properties, so mixing MDMA + Amphetamine will just make you very speedy & worked up. It will also kill off the MDMA high. Amphetamine also lasts much longer than MDMA. I've heard CapeCrusader's speed is very strong. For a first time user I'd recommend about 30mg of speed by itself. Also unlike MDMA, you don't peak quickly. Speed takes about 3 hours to peak (if eaten), so don't redose until at least 3 hours after you've taken your initial dose. Seed is not something you want to accidentally have too much of. It is not as forgiving as MDMA. Take too much and you'll be in for an unpleasant 12+ hours and have a 2 day comedown.
Shit I appreciate the heads up! That strong really? Im actually pretty excited! Just wished he shipped from some where a little closer. So do you not think any amount of that amphetamine would intensify some mdma?
MDMA + Amp is great, just make sure you try a little amp before hand too see how you react. With CCs stuff, for someone with no tolerance I would say 30mg max with MDMA is a good dose
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SS's brutal honesty is probably right on the mark. Both because he usually is, and because I've heard Meth will knock my socks off, if I'm only used to Amph
One of the reasons I'm both curious, and fearful of meth. I know addiction, and that sounds like one that would get me. Having ADD, Amphetamine, just makes life liveable for me. Sometimes there's euphoria, but I have to plan to do good fun things while taking the speed to make that happen. I can't just snort a few lines and expect euphoria. Though it used to happen that way when I first started.
That being said, give it a try. Mr Importer will get there 1st. (choose priority), but BM has been averaging 7 days from date order placed to my mailbox, and that was when I was in Northern NY, and is the same in the remote New England town I'm in now.
CC also made it here in a week, and that's coming from 3 times the distance as BM. That was a record, as my latest one is already past that, though I'm not worried in the slightest. Even put another one in with him, while waiting for this one.
If you're in the US, grab a gram (or 2) from MI, @$20 bucks you can't go wrong! 1 or 2g from BM + CC. This way, when you've just finished your MI order, BM should be arriving, followed by CC. ;D ( that's my strategy)
Good Luck in whatever you choose! - and you have probably the greatest bunch of people of any thread on here for help. I follow other forums for other drugs, that aren't as important to me as this one, and the difference is striking! Shitty attitudes, and poseurs, all trying to sound hip or ghetto. It's an interesting study in sociology, because the attitudes and personalites, are directly related to the DOC that the thread is about. Each drug has a corresponding attitude in it's community of users. - I won't say which one and what they are, but does anyone else ever notice this?
PS I once tried what I'm sure was crack, but these college kids (neighbors) kept saying, "It's not crack, it's base" - anyway, I took one bong hit, and felt like I was tied to the space shuttle taking off into space! I actually asked them to hold me down, because I thought I was going to lift off!! :P LoL! - I was so embarrassed afterwards, but they were cool. They said want to do another? - I said SURE! ::) . An hour later - Shit nobodys got money for more???
I'm guessing smoking meth is like that, am I close?
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SS's brutal honesty is probably right on the mark. Both because he usually is, and because I've heard Meth will knock my socks off, if I'm only used to Amph
One of the reasons I'm both curious, and fearful of meth. I know addiction, and that sounds like one that would get me. Having ADD, Amphetamine, just makes life liveable for me. Sometimes there's euphoria, but I have to plan to do good fun things while taking the speed to make that happen. I can't just snort a few lines and expect euphoria. Though it used to happen that way when I first started.
That being said, give it a try. Mr Importer will get there 1st. (choose priority), but BM has been averaging 7 days from date order placed to my mailbox, and that was when I was in Northern NY, and is the same in the remote New England town I'm in now.
CC also made it here in a week, and that's coming from 3 times the distance as BM. That was a record, as my latest one is already past that, though I'm not worried in the slightest. Even put another one in with him, while waiting for this one.
If you're in the US, grab a gram (or 2) from MI, @$20 bucks you can't go wrong! 1 or 2g from BM + CC. This way, when you've just finished your MI order, BM should be arriving, followed by CC. ;D ( that's my strategy)
Good Luck in whatever you choose! - and you have probably the greatest bunch of people of any thread on here for help. I follow other forums for other drugs, that aren't as important to me as this one, and the difference is striking! Shitty attitudes, and poseurs, all trying to sound hip or ghetto. It's an interesting study in sociology, because the attitudes and personalites, are directly related to the DOC that the thread is about. Each drug has a corresponding attitude in it's community of users. - I won't say which one and what they are, but does anyone else ever notice this?
PS I once tried what I'm sure was crack, but these college kids (neighbors) kept saying, "It's not crack, it's base" - anyway, I took one bong hit, and felt like I was tied to the space shuttle taking off into space! I actually asked them to hold me down, because I thought I was going to lift off!! :P LoL! - I was so embarrassed afterwards, but they were cool. They said want to do another? - I said SURE! ::) . An hour later - Shit nobodys got money for more???
I'm guessing smoking meth is like that, am I close?
Meth users are a little more prepared. We buy enough to last at least a few days or a week. Once we run out we kind of just accept it and wait for more money. Or at least that's what I do.
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im waiting on 2g from CC its only been like 2 days though will update on arrival. i have no speed experiece though i plan on eating it with mdma
I would recommend taking the speed by itself. MDMA has Amphetamine properties, so mixing MDMA + Amphetamine will just make you very speedy & worked up. It will also kill off the MDMA high. Amphetamine also lasts much longer than MDMA. I've heard CapeCrusader's speed is very strong. For a first time user I'd recommend about 30mg of speed by itself. Also unlike MDMA, you don't peak quickly. Speed takes about 3 hours to peak (if eaten), so don't redose until at least 3 hours after you've taken your initial dose. Seed is not something you want to accidentally have too much of. It is not as forgiving as MDMA. Take too much and you'll be in for an unpleasant 12+ hours and have a 2 day comedown.
Shit I appreciate the heads up! That strong really? Im actually pretty excited! Just wished he shipped from some where a little closer. So do you not think any amount of that amphetamine would intensify some mdma?
From my experience and from what I've heard, Amphetamine won't stregnthen the MDMA high. It will definitely make it more speedy though. So if you liek the energy that comes with MDMA, 10-15mg of speed with MDMA will definitely add some extra energy in there, but won't do anything for the MDMA high...
yes, it's a lot stronger than MDMA for the amount taken. Having too much MDMA in a day is not going to be a big problem and you'd be able to sleep fine after a few hours. Too much speed will keep yo up for a very long time and it will not be pleasant if you overdo it. Start with a small dose, work your way up from there.
And don't forget it takes at least a couple of hours for sped to peak. MDMA peaks pretty much as soon as it kicks in. So don't take speed and after 30 minutes decide to take more. Because what you feel after 30 minutes will be less than half of what you feel 4 hours into it.
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Looking through my feedback, from the beginning of december to now I've managed to get through
5g of isthisis
5g of capecrusader
8g of boymaster
It seems like a lot, but then it is over a 4.5 month period. Might have to knock this habit on the head. I've had a few 5 day breaks during that time, only ever felt mild withdrawal during the first break
im waiting on 2g from CC its only been like 2 days though will update on arrival. i have no speed experiece though i plan on eating it with mdma
I would recommend taking the speed by itself. MDMA has Amphetamine properties, so mixing MDMA + Amphetamine will just make you very speedy & worked up. It will also kill off the MDMA high. Amphetamine also lasts much longer than MDMA. I've heard CapeCrusader's speed is very strong. For a first time user I'd recommend about 30mg of speed by itself. Also unlike MDMA, you don't peak quickly. Speed takes about 3 hours to peak (if eaten), so don't redose until at least 3 hours after you've taken your initial dose. Seed is not something you want to accidentally have too much of. It is not as forgiving as MDMA. Take too much and you'll be in for an unpleasant 12+ hours and have a 2 day comedown.
Shit I appreciate the heads up! That strong really? Im actually pretty excited! Just wished he shipped from some where a little closer. So do you not think any amount of that amphetamine would intensify some mdma?
MDMA + Amp is great, just make sure you try a little amp before hand too see how you react. With CCs stuff, for someone with no tolerance I would say 30mg max with MDMA is a good dose
I would agree with this. Small amounts of speed + MDMA is good. But don't take 100mg of speed and then MDMA. That will just be awful.
High doses of speed (100mg pure) + MDMA is a waste. The clear-headedness of the speed will override most of the MDMA.
Also if you don't like the seedy part of MDMA. Don't bother with it either.
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Man i appreciate all the advice yall!!! And i was looking to speed the mdma up just a little. i was refering to enhancing it by giving you more energy. you guys have probably stopped me from having a very
bad night. i would have thought it would hit you as fast as molly. you guys are great!!!!
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As expected and hoped for my CC order arrived today. This guy's transit times are like a Swiss watch, always perfect on time, every time again.
Not sure what happened to the zip lock baggie but the both sides were serrated (dunno if this is the right word) and molten like they were cut with a light saber on low crystal-power (or whatever you call the "battery"). There was more than just a bit of powder that fell out into the vacuum seal. But OK, nothing was lost in the end.
People saying CC's speed is odorless must have fucked up their nose? I agree, it's odorless from a distance but that typical sour smell is undeniable CC-amp and I'd recognize it blindfolded.
Just railed 2 lines and I'm instantly reminded why this is my preferred speed. No body load, a nice brain rush and smooth euphoria.
I didn't have regular speed for a good 7 days but did meth instead and I don't understand the cross tolerance between the two but fact is this amp feels damn nice. Better then last batch.
@Jagfug: I didn't see that show but I do know those pics circulating on the internet. Personally I don't know any aids patients and it's probably insulting to them but that's my first thought too when I see those pics lol.
I also think the pics and the tv-shows are there to have some sort of scare-effect. Don't smoke meth lil' Billy Bob jr, or you'll end up like that!! I can't imagine everyone in the meth thread looking like that but when I read how some people live their lives I'm not sure what to think. Is this caused by meth or is it just the way they are?
But anyway, I'm not judging anyone, and each to their own.
After receiving CC this morning I dumped the left over of meth in the sink. It's an amazing drug but when I start re-dosing to just combat the come down so soon after first time using I know the chances of things ending up bad increase by 1000%. Hitting that meth pipe first thing in the morning "just for the flavor" is a bad sign too in my book. I don't care what others do, but I have my personal lines I don't cross and I cross them all the time with meth and tell myself lies.
Anyway, this all sounds much more dramatic than it actually is, it's just not an ideal drug for me so I stop using it. :-)
Btw, glad I'm not the only one noticing the differences in attitude depending the drug thread I'm reading and it often makes sense if you have experience with the corresponding drug.
No names but coke vendors addicted to their own stuff have the worst attitudes ever imo. They often behave like they're Gods and we, humble humans, should be grateful they even allow us to buy their (often mixed with dangerous crap) heavenly dust. And don't we dare to say anything negative!!
Just thinking about it makes me wanna go "- karma" a few lol.
Hey, anyone ever wondered who this aeneas77 guy is? He started this thread but never posted again. His status is "guest"??
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About a year ago I bought various listings of speed off a few vendors. It was THE worse drug to buy off here (and in real life) as the batches of speed all differ depending on what is at hand. The strict rules restricting various chemicals and the old days access to your works lab now gone means the labs making this are compromising in a few area. This leads to speed which can be anything from almost too much at 50mg to speed that you could eat a gram of to promote sleep.
I eventually settled on boymaster (German vendor, great stealth) whose speed was of the '50mg was almost too much' kind. 100mg (took a 50mg redose 4 hr after the first dose) and I was a wreck and one sorry creature! I never abused speed but took a fair when younger. My tolerance for speed is gone, my body is not taking well to it so after using the BM speed I actually flushed all the speed I'd bought! Sounds extreme but sometime you use a drug and it does not agree. I regret flushing the BM speed, as I reckon taking tiny amounts, 20mg, might have been on a level with pharm grade amphetamine but I suspect the comedown off any non pharm standard speed is always going to be bad. Older you get, worse the comedown.
I will admit that I enjoy and find a use for dexamfetanine now and again. A suitable replacement for speed indeed and you can eat and sleep on it. The stimulant effect is very subtle really but its there and 10mg is enough to perk you up. Not used more than that but would imagine 20mg would be a pretty good night back up drug. Just in case you overload on smoking and drinking, you have a parachute to ease you back to earth.
So, not usre if boymaster quality is still there, feedback with reveal. For those into speed, be cautious with dosing. 50mg for me was pretty euphoric, 100mg was a nightmare pounding headache of hell! I was a bedbound wreck of man for 24 hr, then fucked for an entire week. So revisiting memory lane is not always a good idea. A lot of people took to cocaine mainly due to the fact that using speed had a comedown. We all accepted that in the day and knew a 3-4 day session of speed with a few hours sleep would mean you would be like a kitten the next day. Fit to play with a ball of wool maybe.
As ever, each to their own.
My advice on meth is to avoid and not even go there. Tempting though it might be, the downside of meth is that it is more addictive than mere speed. The instant high of smoking meth or worse, injecting it, is a bad bad idea.
And if you use speed a lot, take a break, its easy to become reliant on this drug for social confidence.
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I second that Arigolo! Ever since a customer recommended you (Regicide), I haven't bought my speed or meth anywhere else. If you want to flip these pills locally, giving a free sample of 1 or 2 pills will have your phone ringing in 24 hours.
If you prefer snorting/eating/plugging your speed/meth, this is a great value. Clean and consistent with nothing psychoactive except m-amph. Since you can't smoke or IV it without filtering the pills many times. I don't IV or smoke meth so this stuff is great (feels equivalent to 40-60mg d-amph or adderall). I usually do it recreationally the day of arrival and ten cut down to 0.5-1 pill epr day for studyng, work, etc. usually 2 weeks on 2+ weeks off.
Thank you, very much appreciated that you take your time to write review.
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Don't have time to post, just wanted to say CC+MI both made a safe landing. Interesting stuff by RED.
+ Sham, + the rest of you. Talk to you later! Gotta run! (while I got the 'energy' ;))
Peace
jagfug
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Blehh hate reading about all the CC orders landing, my initial shipment from March hasn't made it (yet?) and the reship isn't here yet either.. I'm sooo out of stock :(
Hopefully it'll arrive tomorrow, or at least this week.
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Blehh hate reading about all the CC orders landing, my initial shipment from March hasn't made it (yet?) and the reship isn't here yet either.. I'm sooo out of stock :(
Hopefully it'll arrive tomorrow, or at least this week.
have a +1 to keep you company =)
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About a year ago I bought various listings of speed off a few vendors. It was THE worse drug to buy off here (and in real life) as the batches of speed all differ depending on what is at hand.
+1 for repeating the same story for the x-th time ;D
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Did SR change something about the feedback mechanism? Lately it doesn't show at all or only after some time passed after giving feedback.
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my tolerance is ruined :(
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Did SR change something about the feedback mechanism? Lately it doesn't show at all or only after some time passed after giving feedback.
agreed man...def something up
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my tolerance is ruined :(
Mine's on the way. Did a couple solid lines this morning then proceeded to eat a MASSIVE breakfast. dafuq? lol.
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my tolerance is ruined :(
Mine's on the way. Did a couple solid lines this morning then proceeded to eat a MASSIVE breakfast. dafuq? lol.
It's gotten to the point now where I'm instantly hungry after a few lines.
Must be the speed up to metabolism and the amp sapping your blood sugar.
My appetite is almost higher on speed compare to sober haha. I don't know if this is tolerance or conditioning from force feeding during long binges?
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It's gotten to the point now where I'm instantly hungry after a few lines.
Must be the speed up to metabolism and the amp sapping your blood sugar.
My appetite is almost higher on speed compare to sober haha. I don't know if this is tolerance or conditioning from force feeding during long binges?
I could definitely do with this. I'm not a big eater anyway and I've lost like, 1/2 stone in the past 2-3 months. Easier for me to lose than to put it back on. I've pretty much banned myself from taking anything stimmy unless it's short acting for the next while :(
Personally I've found about 10mg of CC's stuff (Gummed or railed, usually gummed, it makes shit of my nose. It's probably not great for my mouth either though :P) is enough to keep me going on a night out when I'm not drinking. Shit faced people get a bit boring towards the wee hours though.
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After losing a shitload of weight I never thought I needed to, (went from 245lbs to 165lbs with a 6'+ frame in 18 mos) I pretty much was at the weight that I wanted to be at. High Cholesterol now normal. High BP now normal.
That being said, I'd like to maintain it at around 170-175. Seems like my fighting weight :P. I feel the most healthy at that weight.
When I have one of those mornings where no matter how many lines I do, I still want to chow down some good food, I've found if I just get up and eat first, then wait as long as I can for the first dose. The speed tolerance seems to be lowered. - You have to listen to your body. You know when it needs to eat. I notice if I eat a big swordfish steak, w/some healthy things like asparagus or spinach. I feel great for the rest of the day, and if I take speed, I feel it working a lot more, because of the nutrients, fish oil, etc. Nothing like getting it from the source, as opposed to taking supplements.
@Sham - yeah I was getting that too earlier when trying to leave FB for CC, but it finally showed.
@Knomo - that sucks! How long since it shipped? Have you thought of trying an alternate "ship to address" and name? Like a trusted friend? - Maybe someone's onto you? Not necessarily LE, but a postal worker/thief?? I might be 'jumping the gun" there, I'm just trying to think of alternatives that might assure a successful delivery. Shit, I'll order some and send it to you. (if that's allowed, and you feel comfortable-not for profit of course) I hate to see the very guys that coached me along in my newbie days last year, not being able to get the same shit they turned me on to! :'( - I just past my year mark on here April 8th. PM me if interested. It could be something in the SA/GER connection. Any way, my offer stands.
I was going to blather on about how much better this batch is than last. No waxiness. Weight slightly over, and perfect powdery consistency for us snorters! ;D
I pray it comes tomorrow.
MR Importer for you American chaps, is right behind BM+CC as far as quality. It comes as wet paste, kind of haphazardly in a baggie more suited for a sandwich, but it's stealthily sealed and a little while (1/2 hour) after drying, you're enjoying some nice speed, that feels closer to CC's gear than any Dutch I've ever tried. It's a good clean speed high, with almost no bodyload. Though it makes me very binge prone. Whereas CC's gear, I tend to take my time with, the same way one might with a fine scotch, like Chivas Regal. :D
OK enough out of me, it's 1Am here, and I'm gonna take a Dalmane and crash. - Talk to you guys later! Have a great Tuesday everybody!
peace 8)
jagfug
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Hello everyone
I have not received a package from BM in the last 2 months. before that I got two packs from BM. he claims to have resent me. I think I believe him and believe that he has done everything he can. This is just one order
I think the possible reason for this is that he can not print out all the right letters for the address.
first two shipments, I have some characters that do not print correctly on the envelope.
So I put the characters that are used instead of them. Should I call down to the post office and check or what should I do. I really want to get more from BM
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@Knomo - that sucks! How long since it shipped? Have you thought of trying an alternate "ship to address" and name? Like a trusted friend? - Maybe someone's onto you? Not necessarily LE, but a postal worker/thief?? I might be 'jumping the gun" there, I'm just trying to think of alternatives that might assure a successful delivery. Shit, I'll order some and send it to you. (if that's allowed, and you feel comfortable-not for profit of course) I hate to see the very guys that coached me along in my newbie days last year, not being able to get the same shit they turned me on to! :'( - I just past my year mark on here April 8th. PM me if interested. It could be something in the SA/GER connection. Any way, my offer stands.
The reship was send Friday the 5th of April and the initial order was send out 11th of March :(
I did not try it with a alternative shipping address because we both (CC and me) figured it just got lost or something in the mail. I have friends who also live on their own so there is the possibility to send it to them, if CC is willing to try another reship :-[
It's so strange tho, I've never had a single order lost and I am running close to 30 orders till now..
CC's packaging is superior so it is hardly imaginable that they got seized, also I didn't receive any love letters either.
Very annoying that I have got 4 friends clinging on my back asking where their gear stays :-X
But I guess it's equally (probably worse) annoying for CC since we're not able to complete our deal.
Anyway... I'm keeping hope it will be resolved. Good thing is that my tolerance is getting lower.. I guess every bad thing has a good side ;D
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Hello everyone
I have not received a package from BM in the last 2 months. before that I got two packs from BM. he claims to have resent me. I think I believe him and believe that he has done everything he can. This is just one order
I think the possible reason for this is that he can not print out all the right letters for the address.
first two shipments, I have some characters that do not print correctly on the envelope.
So I put the characters that are used instead of them. Should I call down to the post office and check or what should I do. I really want to get more from BM
This is indeed an annoying situation that can cause many orders to fuck up.
Probably the post office won't be a big help either but no harm in asking I guess.
The only working solution would be finding the keyboard codes for those special characters and try to convince BM to figure out how to use them.
Even better if he'd install the character set for your language. I had to this when I wanted to print Asian characters. It's 5 seconds of work really but again, you'd have to convince BM.
Maybe the SR vendor client doesn't work that way though, I dunno.
Good luck.
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The reship was send Friday the 5th of April and the initial order was send out 11th of March :(
I did not try it with a alternative shipping address because we both (CC and me) figured it just got lost or something in the mail. I have friends who also live on their own so there is the possibility to send it to them, if CC is willing to try another reship :-[
It's so strange tho, I've never had a single order lost and I am running close to 30 orders till now..
CC's packaging is superior so it is hardly imaginable that they got seized, also I didn't receive any love letters either.
Plus I got 4 friends clinging on my back asking where their gear stays :-X
Anyway... I'm keeping hope it will be resolved. Good thing is that my tolerance is getting lower.. I guess every bad thing has a good side ;D
+1 to keep the hope fire burning
We can brainstorm all day long why the order hasn't arrived but that doesn't get you your stuff. If CC is nice and agrees with another resend (to a different address) and it's again a no-show maybe it's time for conspiracy theories.
There's no way I'd order for friends though. Except maybe if they can't access their own SR account for some reason.
Imagine you have 1000 smooth orders and there comes order 1001 including stuff for friends and it never shows. I want to avoid that situation at all costs.
Sure, you can tell them there is always a risk, but chances are they know about the previous 1000 orders too.
Maybe they would be totally cool and down to earth about it, but still I say no to ordering for other people.
I wish you luck with this cursed order!
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I lost like 20% of my body weight and 30% strength lifting weights. I look good not underweight but definitely blew a lot of fat and muscle just the same. Feel so fucking week compared to before.
Also tolerance seem to skyrocket for me now. currently I'm 7 days clean... wiaiting,. I waited 8 days before and my tolerance was still not back to normal. L-phenylalanine helped me... but then I boughth some random shitty brand that is tablets instead of capsules- and it doesn't help shit. Reminds me to order NOW or good brand again. L-tyrosine no cross bbb for me.
what's good on the menu nowadays anyhow?
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I lost like 20% of my body weight and 30% strength lifting weights. I look good not underweight but definitely blew a lot of fat and muscle just the same. Feel so fucking week compared to before.
Also tolerance seem to skyrocket for me now. currently I'm 7 days clean... wiaiting,. I waited 8 days before and my tolerance was still not back to normal. L-phenylalanine helped me... but then I boughth some random shitty brand that is tablets instead of capsules- and it doesn't help shit. Reminds me to order NOW or good brand again. L-tyrosine no cross bbb for me.
what's good on the menu nowadays anyhow?
Yeah I know where you're coming from. Sad thing is the only physical activity I have been doing is lifting weights 3 times a week and I still feel weaker, i
Just got through 1 g of BM stuff in the past 56 hours. When I wake up I won't have anymore and an enforced break will begin
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Just got through 1 g of BM stuff in the past 56 hours. When I wake up I won't have anymore and an enforced break will begin
That is a lot of speed!! BM's speed is extremely strong. You must have quite a tolerance to it - If I went through 1 gram in that time I think I'd end up in hospital.
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Just got through 1 g of BM stuff in the past 56 hours. When I wake up I won't have anymore and an enforced break will begin
That is a lot of speed!! BM's speed is extremely strong. You must have quite a tolerance to it - If I went through 1 gram in that time I think I'd end up in hospital.
Haha yeah going through that much of BM's gear in 2 1/2 days is smashing it!
Your tolerance must be through the roof!
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I lost like 20% of my body weight and 30% strength lifting weights. I look good not underweight but definitely blew a lot of fat and muscle just the same. Feel so fucking week compared to before.
Also tolerance seem to skyrocket for me now. currently I'm 7 days clean... wiaiting,. I waited 8 days before and my tolerance was still not back to normal. L-phenylalanine helped me... but then I boughth some random shitty brand that is tablets instead of capsules- and it doesn't help shit. Reminds me to order NOW or good brand again. L-tyrosine no cross bbb for me.
what's good on the menu nowadays anyhow?
Yeah I know where you're coming from. Sad thing is the only physical activity I have been doing is lifting weights 3 times a week and I still feel weaker, i
Just got through 1 g of BM stuff in the past 56 hours. When I wake up I won't have anymore and an enforced break will begin
Well done Sir, I'd be 6 Feet Under if I did that, especially with BM's speed.
I'm always amazed at the amounts of speed some people can take. Is it an age thing? Or just a matter of general health and being in good physical shape?
I once took maybe 300mg over 24hrs or so, and the next day my body felt like I've ran a few marathons after being run over by Optimus Prime.
Speed doesn't seem to affect body functions much but my muscles are always tighter than an Asian cooter. Especially when I'm speeding in front of the computer, I tend to always find the most unnatural position to sit in for hours and hours on end.
That being said, this last batch from CC gives the nastiest drip I ever experienced. I even gagged 2 times when I tried clearing my throat lmao. I'm sure I would have puked if I had eaten right before. Just lovely!
This batch also fucks up my nose pretty nicely, 3 days in and there are the bloody chunks when I blow my nose. A true sign of powerful amphetamine lmao!
My whole life I've suffered from sinus problems and headaches caused by sinus infections. And I had 1 stuffed nostril at all times. Since I started snorting, these problems are completely gone.
Maybe I just don't have any sinuses left lol.
One last thing. I see a doctor on a regular base to follow up my accident and there is this student doctor I wanna fuck. Not only does she looks like a model, but she's also very friendly and still has passion for her job. Most doctors are like, yea yea, take this and that, here's the bill, see ya. But she really takes the time to do her job the best she can.
Normally I rail a tiny line to survive the horrible time in the waiting room. I'm not antisocial, but people in the doctor's waiting room are my personal hell. When everybody is minding their own business, quietly reading or just thinking, there's always this one idiot who insists on starting a conversation. Usually it's an old person too.
It always goes like this, the old person asks what you're here for and before you can even finish answering they start a monologue about THEIR health issue. If you're lucky this person's wife/husband didn't just pass away because if they did, another monologue about the issues leading to their passing will be coming your way.
And for some reason they always turn to me, I guess my face is too friendly. But on the inside I could strangle them. Don't be an asshole you could say, this person is just lonely. Makes sense, but still I hate it with a passion, and when I rail a line before I go, I can usually deal with it so I'm not an asshole per se.
Anyway, so today I didn't snort anything because I had an appointment and to my great joy it was the student doctor for the morning service. She looked extra slutty today and I was glad I didn't have speed or else I would have had a giant boner the way she was touching my leg and knee. Not that she was doing anything special, it just felt good lol.
I completely forgot what I was gonna say so I guess the conclusion is that I wanna fuck her in her office while she blurts out medical things in Latin lol.
Cheers,
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^ This is a hilarious read, cheers for the chuckle mate!
Got some good characters in this thread, cheers to all!
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Anyway, so today I didn't snort anything because I had an appointment and to my great joy it was the student doctor for the morning service. She looked extra slutty today and I was glad I didn't have speed or else I would have had a giant boner the way she was touching my leg and knee. Not that she was doing anything special, it just felt good lol.
I completely forgot what I was gonna say so I guess the conclusion is that I wanna fuck her in her office while she blurts out medical things in Latin lol.
Cheers,
How on earth can you get a boner on speed? :o
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How on earth can you get a boner on speed? :o
On threshold doses I'm a porn star including power-loads. We're talking about 10-15mg here.
After that point the chances of impotence and speed dick increase exponentially.
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How on earth can you get a boner on speed? :o
vasodilator. ;D
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Fistpumpping right here. Thats how good i feel.
Why, you might wonder. I just done my first order here on SR Actually i made it yesterday and now it be in transit mode. tbh, Yes, i was supposed to make it like 3 weeks ago but better later than never they say. or whatever =)
Now i just pray to amphetGods it arrives by friday. Lol.
Ill write something for you about my first order when it arrives.
Time is sooo long when you hafto wait.
Have fun plus som good times.
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*** Originally Posted under thread above "Meth Vendors and Product Reviews" *****
Hi Guys, seems to be a few threads *maybe looking for the same information. Please read the last few pages, should you like on the thread I mentioned, and see If all can benefit from objective advice :) Thanks :)
Orig Post: "Re: Meth Vendors and Product Reviews"
Alright, back to what may be of use now in this forum, instead of all of the colorful dialogue, "he said/she said", etc. ... Perhaps we can start a new thread here that may be of utility: There a PLENTY of new vendors out there as of current, and cool if you can remember VroomVroom from a year ago: Only comment maybe if you have had RECENT experience (your subjective narrative is welcome, but be honest and don't bash someone/something you have not tried, please :) ). In regards to all of the vendors utilized now or recently: Reply based on THAT vendors QUALITY, SHIPPING, PROFESSIONALISM, etc.) .. I think you will get it :)
Ex: Today I reply (honestly)...
*FirstClassFix*- VERY economical for the price; stealth beyond adequate and within window of his "est. shipping times". Quality after one pipetastic run at it, 3 hours since.. intense and durable. I give FCF a Tip of the Hat and recommend. (ONE crystal clear shard .12 over) is nice.
**** Any other reviews to be added to this thread for ease's sake? :) **** ;)
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BM arrived today. now I'm just waiting CC :P
I'm so happy that BM came today
Hello everyone
I have not received a package from BM in the last 2 months. before that I got two packs from BM. he claims to have resent me. I think I believe him and believe that he has done everything he can. This is just one order
I think the possible reason for this is that he can not print out all the right letters for the address.
first two shipments, I have some characters that do not print correctly on the envelope.
So I put the characters that are used instead of them. Should I call down to the post office and check or what should I do. I really want to get more from BM
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How on earth can you get a boner on speed? :o
On threshold doses I'm a porn star including power-loads. We're talking about 10-15mg here.
After that point the chances of impotence and speed dick increase exponentially.
Oh yea that makes sense. Small doses seem to keep it functioning quite well. Haha.
I think it would be impossible to get one on a large amount of speed. Some people might be different though?
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How on earth can you get a boner on speed? :o
On threshold doses I'm a porn star including power-loads. We're talking about 10-15mg here.
After that point the chances of impotence and speed dick increase exponentially.
Oh yea that makes sense. Small doses seem to keep it functioning quite well. Haha.
I think it would be impossible to get one on a large amount of speed. Some people might be different though?
Almost impossible without Viagra.
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BM arrived today. now I'm just waiting CC :P
I'm so happy that BM came today
I'm happy your BM order came today too! I knew it would!
BM rules! ;D
Enjoy! - (try to make it last), Otherwise put in your next order asap. The days following running out are like the 'suicide Tuesday' Molly users talk about.
I like to have a near constant supply.
@Sham - Man you're in rare form! - I know this latest CC batch is quite different. Kind of creeps up on you. How about that consistency? Can't say it's too powdery or waxy! - I think it's perfect! Crunchy rocks that chop up into a nice granular powder! ;D
Got another on the way! ;D
Can't wait for BM's new batch!
Peace out my brothers!
jagfug
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My order from BM was marked shipped on the 11th. Really hoping it will come in the next week or so. Getting a little paranoid about customs of the country I'm in. Would any past buyers rate BM's stealth good?
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For me, BM's stealth is always good. It will not stand out in your regular mail.
What part of the world are you in? I'm in Massachusetts, and it gets here almost always in 7 days, though this past order was like 10 days.
@ SinningSaint - What part of the world are you ? Ionly ask because TU
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I lost like 20% of my body weight and 30% strength lifting weights. I look good not underweight but definitely blew a lot of fat and muscle just the same. Feel so fucking week compared to before.
Also tolerance seem to skyrocket for me now. currently I'm 7 days clean... wiaiting,. I waited 8 days before and my tolerance was still not back to normal. L-phenylalanine helped me... but then I boughth some random shitty brand that is tablets instead of capsules- and it doesn't help shit. Reminds me to order NOW or good brand again. L-tyrosine no cross bbb for me.
what's good on the menu nowadays anyhow?
Yeah I know where you're coming from. Sad thing is the only physical activity I have been doing is lifting weights 3 times a week and I still feel weaker, i
Just got through 1 g of BM stuff in the past 56 hours. When I wake up I won't have anymore and an enforced break will begin
Well done Sir, I'd be 6 Feet Under if I did that, especially with BM's speed.
I'm always amazed at the amounts of speed some people can take. Is it an age thing? Or just a matter of general health and being in good physical shape?
I once took maybe 300mg over 24hrs or so, and the next day my body felt like I've ran a few marathons after being run over by Optimus Prime.
Speed doesn't seem to affect body functions much but my muscles are always tighter than an Asian cooter. Especially when I'm speeding in front of the computer, I tend to always find the most unnatural position to sit in for hours and hours on end.
That being said, this last batch from CC gives the nastiest drip I ever experienced. I even gagged 2 times when I tried clearing my throat lmao. I'm sure I would have puked if I had eaten right before. Just lovely!
This batch also fucks up my nose pretty nicely, 3 days in and there are the bloody chunks when I blow my nose. A true sign of powerful amphetamine lmao!
My whole life I've suffered from sinus problems and headaches caused by sinus infections. And I had 1 stuffed nostril at all times. Since I started snorting, these problems are completely gone.
Maybe I just don't have any sinuses left lol.
One last thing. I see a doctor on a regular base to follow up my accident and there is this student doctor I wanna fuck. Not only does she looks like a model, but she's also very friendly and still has passion for her job. Most doctors are like, yea yea, take this and that, here's the bill, see ya. But she really takes the time to do her job the best she can.
Normally I rail a tiny line to survive the horrible time in the waiting room. I'm not antisocial, but people in the doctor's waiting room are my personal hell. When everybody is minding their own business, quietly reading or just thinking, there's always this one idiot who insists on starting a conversation. Usually it's an old person too.
It always goes like this, the old person asks what you're here for and before you can even finish answering they start a monologue about THEIR health issue. If you're lucky this person's wife/husband didn't just pass away because if they did, another monologue about the issues leading to their passing will be coming your way.
And for some reason they always turn to me, I guess my face is too friendly. But on the inside I could strangle them. Don't be an asshole you could say, this person is just lonely. Makes sense, but still I hate it with a passion, and when I rail a line before I go, I can usually deal with it so I'm not an asshole per se.
Anyway, so today I didn't snort anything because I had an appointment and to my great joy it was the student doctor for the morning service. She looked extra slutty today and I was glad I didn't have speed or else I would have had a giant boner the way she was touching my leg and knee. Not that she was doing anything special, it just felt good lol.
I completely forgot what I was gonna say so I guess the conclusion is that I wanna fuck her in her office while she blurts out medical things in Latin lol.
Cheers,
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My order from BM was marked shipped on the 11th. Really hoping it will come in the next week or so. Getting a little paranoid about customs of the country I'm in. Would any past buyers rate BM's stealth good?
Don't get paranoid yet, it's been only 7 days. Which isn't awfully long considering the country you're in.
Stealth won't be the problem anyway.
The only problem I can possibly think of is the western sounding name and even then I have no idea if just this one thing is enough to raise a red flag in the customs office.
I'm not your dad or anything but maybe next time think twice before doing something like this if you're gonna be all paranoid about it.
And certainly don't just blindly follow all the advice you read on here, even though most people on SR are lawyers specialized in international laws or PhD's in economy, politics and science.
+1 to push your luck with BM order.
@ Jag:
"Crunchy rocks that chop up into a nice granular powder!" - Nice copy-writing work right there.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy after reading that on the amp-baggie lol.
It chops up into the fluffy powder I hate, but thankfully this one only looks fluffy.
It's actually sticky and making lines is a breeze and doesn't fly straight to my throat and lungs upon snorting. Definitely different then before but still my number 1 speed.
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*Update: Crazy Mercury week starts now!!
100usd a g for uncut flakes cocaine and for crystal meth and 3 grams mdma for 100 usd and 10 gram of Speed for 100 usd
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waiting for BM the 11th day now.
as i'm in central europe the shipping time is quite long already..
hope it will arrive soon.
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waiting for BM the 11th day now.
as i'm in central europe the shipping time is quite long already..
hope it will arrive soon.
Still not that long. We all know every day sucks after the day you think you'll get it but don't. Just hang in there. A full 14 days is when I consider anything extraordinary late. It seems where you're located there's some bad connection between your post, and Spain.
Hang in there man. Still got tomorrow, and hopefully you have Saturday delivery. Something we're about to lose in August. (thank you Socialism)
You'll get it. I have hope. ;)
jagfug
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Saturday post would be phenomenal, a whole extra day for deliveries.. Plus it's a Saturday.
The only thing better than Saturday is Friday afternoon being that its the longest time away from going back to work Monday morning.
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@SinningSaint
BM stealth is not bad. I feel for you
It was one delivery from him which never came to me, but I got resend from him and it paid off I was getting pretty nervous before it finally came but it is not common, he has a very high receive rate. however hold us informed about the situation
My CC order came today
took less time to get from CC than BM this time. First shipment that I get from CC. BM came yesterday but was sent two days before CC weekend not included
I have too much of a good speed on hand 5gCC and 5gBM there will be little sleep next few days ;)
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Enjoy.. :)
I'm still empty :(
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Welcome to the new dimension.
+1 for this catch-phrase in particular.
No fake bullshit vendor talk with percentages and all, just pure product confidence!
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Hello friends,
We are happy to announce that the new batch is here as promised.
Every order placed from now on will be dispatched with the highest quality Speed available on the market. SR has never seen something like this before, for sure.
You won't have to worry anymore for the quality.
Welcome to the new dimension.
Kind regards
BM
Wowowowowow need some coins!
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ACCCKKKK!!! >:(
I don't get my hands on any money until May 3rd! What can I sell??? Hmm, Anyone need a Harmon Kardon 5.1 surround system with JBL's all around? ;D
Good news Boymaster! - We'll see how creative I can become at obtaining money!
These are the "Good old Days" 8)
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For me, BM's stealth is always good. It will not stand out in your regular mail.
What part of the world are you in? I'm in Massachusetts, and it gets here almost always in 7 days, though this past order was like 10 days.
@ SinningSaint - What part of the world are you ?
I'm currently in Japan. Didn't realize until after I made the order how tight customs here are, however it could be that it is just taking long because of distance.
Don't get paranoid yet, it's been only 7 days. Which isn't awfully long considering the country you're in.
Stealth won't be the problem anyway.
The only problem I can possibly think of is the western sounding name and even then I have no idea if just this one thing is enough to raise a red flag in the customs office.
I'm not your dad or anything but maybe next time think twice before doing something like this if you're gonna be all paranoid about it.
And certainly don't just blindly follow all the advice you read on here, even though most people on SR are lawyers specialized in international laws or PhD's in economy, politics and science.
+1 to push your luck with BM order.
@SinningSaint
BM stealth is not bad. I feel for you
It was one delivery from him which never came to me, but I got resend from him and it paid off I was getting pretty nervous before it finally came but it is not common, he has a very high receive rate. however hold us informed about the situation
Thanks guys ;D Maybe I'm confusing my impatience for nervousness. I do trust that BM is one of the best vendors nevertheless!
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Welcome to the new dimension.
superstring theory says there are 10 dimensions already...
so you nailed it pretty hard :D
thrilled to try :)
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waiting for BM the 11th day now.
as i'm in central europe the shipping time is quite long already..
hope it will arrive soon.
You'll get it. I have hope. ;)
jagfug
got it today. now i have to get the "new dimension" stuff asap! ;)
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@emilio - See? I knew you'd get it. Now if we can just help our friend Knomo with some good vibes. Anyone live near him, that trust each other to do him
a solid? Like mail him 2g's domestically? Just a thought. We should look after one another.
@SinningSaint - If he uses the same stealth as he has on my past 6 orders, Japan is probably the last place this letter will look suspicious. (said more than enough there, the rest of you get what I mean)
Can't wait to hear the first review of the new BM batch! - If I had the Btc's I'd be on that like white on rice!
Still got some CC, and another 2g on the way, but I miss the 'rocket fuel' feeling of BM's stuff. Having both on hand is the ultimate.
I'd like to keep a stock of my favorites, the way one would keep a liquor cabinet stocked.
I need to find a way to make money! This pension bullshit is just that, BULLSHIT >:( :P
Can you tell I took a break from speed today? (had to eat) My ex said I look like an extra from Schindlers List. :o
jag
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Hello everybody, I am a new meth vendor shipping excellent product via First Class or Priority mail with DCN from the USA. Listings for smaller quantities are up at the moment but I am willing to sell larger to accommodate your needs. Most orders are shipped same-day or next-day, so if you need your order fast, come to me. Also my inbox on SR and forums is never full and your inquiries and messages will be answered right away. I am looking to build good relationships with clients and repeat buyers so you will be treated with respect.
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Hello friends,
We are happy to announce that the new batch is here as promised.
Every order placed from now on will be dispatched with the highest quality Speed available on the market. SR has never seen something like this before, for sure.
You won't have to worry anymore for the quality.
Welcome to the new dimension.
Kind regards
BM
Any info on what's different from the previous batch?
the yellowey stuff just makes my hurt thump fast then I feel crashy after only 3h :/
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Earlier in the thread he claims it to be the best speed he had ever cooked. Closest thing to pharmaceutical speed is mentioned as is the fact it's not waxy. He seems very proud of this batch so IMO that's saying a lot.
I guess we'll find out in the next couple of weeks!
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Any info on what's different from the previous batch?
the yellowey stuff just makes my hurt thump fast then I feel crashy after only 3h :/
Here's the one you missed from April 13th.
" . . . the batch has been thoroughly cleaned, tested and dried. We have introduced a quality control procedure so the batches will be always perfect. The procedure has been improved iteration by iteration, reaching to almost perfection. You would have to look VERY deeply to see the differences between our Amphetamine sulfate and the Pharmaceutical grade amph.
In conclusion this Speed is really superb, the best we have done so far, you'll be amazed.
Cheers
BM
I think that should answer your question. As to the "heart thump fast" and "crashy after 3 hrs" That sounds like a combination of 2 things. Increasing tolerance, and very pure amphetamine. I've had some lengthy discussions recently with a seasoned Vendor, who vends on the road and on the street, and knows others in this business, and from what he's seen in his many years doing this, when he gets his regular customers some really pure amph, like above 70%, they have similar complaints, (not the consistency, the 'bodyload'). Then he gets stuff that he knows is half the strength and cut, and they seem to prefer the lesser strength! ???
So you might want to use the old "less is more" idea. Right now I'm down to my last like 200mgs and I've been chipping away at it very conservatively, after my whopping 24 hours of abstaining ::) I've found that I can reach almost the same level of satisfaction, and I used an herbal caffeine/gurana/ginko tea drink I get from Herbalife, as an enhancer to stretch it out. I'm amazed at how little I actually have to do.
I rarely drink coffee or any other caffeinated drinks since starting adderall treatment. Especially now that I get the "good stuff". So when I do use caffeine, and the other herbal stims, it really puts the "rockets in my pockets" :o
Well, this will be a whole new batch as the master says, so who knows? - Those negatives may just go away.
@Knomo - You should give BM a shot while waiting to reconcile with CC. - I also was re-reading your post. You said you had 4 friends counting on this delivery. Any chance one out of the four could be intercepting your mail? - I mean no offense, but I have a best friend from childhood visit me, and we're into the same shit, and one day he "brought my mail in for me"- my blood ran cold! We may go back to kindergarten, but a drug addict is a drug addict. "No honor among thieves". - I hope you don't have that same reality over there, but I thought I'd offer my paranoid feelings as a possibility.
I have only 1 friend IRL, and I can't be sure about him. I can't imagine 4 people! - But then that's me. Hopefully you have better friends, or at least a more secure mail slot/box whatever.
Peace
jagfug
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Jag: funny you say that about your ex and Schindler's List
Usually I'm not the one going to the pharmacy as I tend to forget the instructions by the the time I leave the pharmacy. Yesterday I had to go anyway and I think the last time the lady saw me must have been somewhere in Januari. As I was searching for my pharmacy card I noticed she was eyeballing me then proceeded to ask if I had been on vacation in Auschwitz or my wife is just a shitty cook lol.
I answered I just try to watch my diet for the summer time :D.
On topic then: is it just me or does CC latest batch seem LESS strong? After a 3-4 day break, I railed a pencil sized line 3hrs ago and here I am, yawning, while I slept almost 9hrs last night.
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Jag: funny you say that about your ex and Schindler's List
Usually I'm not the one going to the pharmacy as I tend to forget the instructions by the the time I leave the pharmacy. Yesterday I had to go anyway and I think the last time the lady saw me must have been somewhere in Januari. As I was searching for my pharmacy card I noticed she was eyeballing me then proceeded to ask if I had been on vacation in Auschwitz or my wife is just a shitty cook lol.
I answered I just try to watch my diet for the summer time :D.
On topic then: is it just me or does CC latest batch seem LESS strong? After a 3-4 day break, I railed a pencil sized line 3hrs ago and here I am, yawning, while I slept almost 9hrs last night.
Is that lady at the pharmacy from New York? - Geez! That was pretty rude! - But I've had a few occasions, going back to last fall, where a woman(it's always an older woman), said something like "Wow you lost a lot of weight!" This is a small town, and I haven't been here that long, and I just blurted out, "The Doctor put me on a diet, I had high blood pressure and high cholesterol" - both are true, except the Dr diet part. - Also both are completely normal now, my last checkup, the MD said, I don't know what you're doing, but keep on doing it, you're the healthiest person I've seen all week!" - Gee thanks Doc, just for that, I'm going to buy some bitcoins! :P
On your 2nd point. - I thought that right away. I just thought it was part of the whole CC clean speed thing with the L molecule, or lesdexfenamine, or whatever the more knowledgeable chemists talk about here. I understand it, I just can't recite it.
Also, I had just gotten boymasters last batch of 2g a week before, followed by Mr Importer, 1G last Saturday. Monday brought 2g's of CC, so my tolerance is pretty decent.
Still like I said, I've been really rationing it out. Like from Friday night, until dinner time Sat night, I just had that caffeine drink, then I just had to 'dip' into the baggie. In 10 minutes I had a nice buzz, and hour later I was flying.
It might just be our tolerance. - I've been up 48 hours (again) just about 12 noon Sunday over here. Sometimes I'll do two little lines, and I'm good for 4 hours. Next time, I'll do 4 lines and feel less!! ??? I think one of us has a problem. ;D
We need more speed !!!!
[EDIT] The fact that I'm editing and edit, tells me the speed is fine, it's our tolerance, PLUS it just passed the all important piss test :o feels like my prostate is the size of a cocoanut! :o - Only amphetamine does that to me. Was like trying to pee through one of those "juice box" straws. :P
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We are happy to announce that the new batch is here as promised.
Every order placed from now on will be dispatched with the highest quality Speed available on the market. SR has never seen something like this before, for sure.
You won't have to worry anymore for the quality.
Welcome to the new dimension.
sounds great, maybe I'll get me some and test that new dimension. Currently having troubles getting BTC and with kids stalking me. Anyone got a hint on what to do for either problem?
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The new CC batch is somewhat different than last. The consistency is different, more powdery white. My friend who insufflates noticed it took him twice as much as last batch. Personally, IVing this latest batch was a completely different experience. There is a very strong rush immediately afterwards, whereas BM has nearly no rush at all. This made me think of IV cocaine. I also am able to (abnormally) sleep easier after injecting as it is much lighter on the body. However, let me just say that this last batch is bad -- i enjoy this extreme rush, and my friend has just been spoiled by BM's :)
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Do you guys have any tips or suggestions for IV usage ? if it matters im waiting on a BM order. Any input would be much appreciate.
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Do you guys have any tips or suggestions for IV usage ? if it matters im waiting on a BM order. Any input would be much appreciate.
I'm not entirely sure, but for a new user 10-20mg, for a high tolerance user I still wouldn't exceed 50mg. That stuff from BM is strong.
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I rarely drink coffee or any other caffeinated drinks since starting adderall treatment. Especially now that I get the "good stuff".
Same here... Before my "discovery" of amphetamine I'd guzzle like 10 cups in a row and all it would do was calm me down. Especially when I was being in an angry/restless state...
Now it's usually one coffee in the morning. Which might as well be more of a ritual than making me more awake or anything.
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First I want to start off with a big salute to CapeCrusader for sticking with me and trying to solve the issues we're dealing with :) This guy is a true gentleman and I am fully confident that something is going to show up in my nose within a reasonably short period of time 8)
I've always been a fan, but as long as CC decides to vendor here he'll be my #1 for sure.
@Knomo - You should give BM a shot while waiting to reconcile with CC. - I also was re-reading your post. You said you had 4 friends counting on this delivery. Any chance one out of the four could be intercepting your mail? - I mean no offense, but I have a best friend from childhood visit me, and we're into the same shit, and one day he "brought my mail in for me"- my blood ran cold! We may go back to kindergarten, but a drug addict is a drug addict. "No honor among thieves". - I hope you don't have that same reality over there, but I thought I'd offer my paranoid feelings as a possibility.
I have only 1 friend IRL, and I can't be sure about him. I can't imagine 4 people! - But then that's me. Hopefully you have better friends, or at least a more secure mail slot/box whatever.
At the moment all my BTC are in escrow with CC, or lost somewhere on Bitcoin24.com that got shot down almost 2 weeks ago.. I now face the same problem as Muslix that it's very hard to acquire new coins.. ::)
And no, it's physically impossible for my friends to intercept my mail :P Even if they could, they wouldn't.
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@Knomo: tried #bitcoin-otc on freenode?
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I'm pretty bummed out too about bitcoin24 being closed down, luckily I had no funds left there though. I prefer to not mess around with SEPA and all that stuff so I didn't find a replacement yet.
With Bitcoin24 I could just use an anonymous preloaded debit card, log on, buy btc, transfer them out, log off and this in 5 minutes tops.
All other services seem like such a hassle now.
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At the moment all my BTC are in escrow with CC, or lost somewhere on Bitcoin24.com that got shot down almost 2 weeks ago.. I now face the same problem as Muslix that it's very hard to acquire new coins.. ::)
And no, it's physically impossible for my friends to intercept my mail :P Even if they could, they wouldn't.
The b24 idea was great. Maybe improve on it and start something new. I know a guy who knows a guy who knows how to implement it. Needs some thought though and one or two vendors to feed the BTC.
btw: ey vendors, where do you sell your BTC?!
edit: I mean just fuck all of the legal part, make a cover business and exchange for sr users, not traders.
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Anyone ordered BM's new batch yet?
Planning on ordering tomorrow. Psyched!
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Shit, correction: I meant CC's new batch ISN'T bad
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CC's current batch is my favorite of all time. It is different then previous and especially when compared to BM's. This batch has the best euphoria to date I have felt from amp and no body load at all. It is similar to really good, smooth, calm cocaine. I have sampled everyone of his batches.
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CC's current batch is my favorite of all time. It is different then previous and especially when compared to BM's. This batch has the best euphoria to date I have felt from amp and no body load at all. It is similar to really good, smooth, calm cocaine. I have sampled everyone of his batches.
It really is different! Sham was 1st to point this out. I never questioned CC's gear after the 1st time I thought it was weak during the cold dark days of January 2013. I was "speed-immature". - It really sounds pompous now, but I truly had to go through different kinds of 'speed-void' hells, to appreciate the delicate balance that CC's gear offers.
(as I type this, I'm counting on a Tuesday morning delivery of said gear) :P (with a scant line or two hiding just enough out of sight that I don't bother)
So, from a confirmed "I only want the rocketfuel" type of guy. I can confirm there is a certain wisdom attained, when one realizes that .10 of CC, will keep you running for half a day, hopefully you have at least that much waiting at home to get you in the mood for the domestia of a single father!
Between the kindness of vendors, and my own nutritional supplement outlets for stims. I've managed, and I don't blame anyone for my problems anymore.
I guess it took 50 years for me to 'grow up'. :-\
Oh well. "Chin up" in the old British way!
Forget the news. It's all about selling commercials.
"Raise your glass to the hard working people,
Let's drink to the Salt of the Earth" - Jagger/Richards '68
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I am sure the product is great too.
Haven't tried the product yet. In fact I am very slow to consume speed :)
GSE
GoodShitExplorer,
It's your lucky day!!! I have very quickly (1.21 gigaseconds) invented an item that will aid your travels!! I call it: the wheel! It will increase your exploration's speed a million-fold, while also keeping you above and off the funny shit posted below! I was so certain you'd love, I took it out of ur paper wallet and left it beside your tent for you when you return. You got a fabulous deal. :)
;D
Slowest regards,
Dr. Locke I. Que
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Do you guys have any tips or suggestions for IV usage ? if it matters im waiting on a BM order. Any input would be much appreciate.
I'm not entirely sure, but for a new user 10-20mg, for a high tolerance user I still wouldn't exceed 50mg. That stuff from BM is strong.
Ok, thanks Dino for a guideline.
It's good to have somesort of basic info on it as im using orally myself.
I do have another question that the community can help me with. And please forgive me if this sounds stupid but i just want to be sure as im not that much into IV usage but hey we have to try out everything right ? =)
So as i got that yellow waxy stuff from Bm it is safe for IV usage?
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hi guys,
how is the current situation from bm sending to germany?
to sum up my short story.
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"now over 14days with priority mail from spain to ger and still counting........somehow mail-service just hates me (never sth got lost, but not first time i have to resolve to add extra time and this with eu-orders only).
i guess it sucks for the seller too, especially with those wild moving bc prices but just dont feel save to fe after what bm did a few month ago, sorry.
at least i can you guys say you wont have any bad physical withdrawal except 1 or 2 days sleep and a little itching when you get tired. that was all i had after taking around 2 month nonstop (12 days sober now). psychical craving is quite strong so."
"uhm.......that sounds bad. im also not sure what to do. i am still waiting(2g ordered 12.03 to germany) and he accepted my suggestion to extend period for 15 days last week(i started resolution center without writing him first). so with so many positive new feedback since i ordered i think its unlikely that he has gone mad again. still hoping it will show up and he is lucky for the btc (that are worth more than double by now if he has not hedged outside escrow) and i am for the speed, but it gets more unlikely with each day. i want to order from him again and thats why trouble would suck.
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i have not written any message to him by now. just wrote in the resolution center (nothing received yet. i hope to receive it today or tomorrow. if not that could take quite some more time with easter-hollidays.....of course i will finalize as soon as i get it.if you somehow need the money fast (cashflow or whyever) and this is a problem then write me and i rethink it.cya) and he accepted without saying anything, but this was last week (27.03).
would be interesting if the missing orders are from the same delivery date."
soon (i think in the night after our two complaint and jugfug going mad) he offered me a full refund or resend unasked). i mysleft was so unsure, because i never ever lost any package and thought it would be best to wait more. i once had a packed from sweden tthat took over a month. thats why i didnt took any.
so still a week (or even more, i had to decide to do sth causs i gave up hope). i asked him if he had problem with sending to germany or what he could think have happend(in the resolution center), so didnt get any answer on that question (i did not pm him direct, i guess he is busy with much more important shit.) nevertheless there came no answer.
with the unhedged btc pric exploading in that time i made him the offer to resend(2or 1 gramm) and pay him instantly, so that at least on his side there would be no loss., beacuse with so many feedback he is trustworthy and i also received a packed from him in january(those btc were bought arround 30e and and that point it was 150-200. the trade was unhedged). it seems he accepted that offer a day later during the crash started, but 10h later so he chancelled the whole order (i dont know why and caus i was not logged in during that time - i have a life beside silk road - could not read if he wrote anything in the resolution chat. because the btc still were much more worth then the original buying i myself are fine out(i guess it got double the amount back. so i did want speed, not the money...).
so what is the point now, is that im total confused if i should or could order from him again. he didnt write me any message at all.i have the bad feeling that there are some ppl doing the customer support that have no fcking clue or brain of all and are especially not very good in english.(with the price jumping unhedged from 30 to 200 there was win win even if loss of a packet) this was not some high grade deal but only 2 grams, and we note that it is very unlikely to lose a packet inside eu, but if it shouldt serious have happened, i bet on stolen whole post-backs in spain/france etc or some special operation the ppl here keep calm about(i just wonder where those countries should have the money for that atm with much more pressuring organized crime in the financial/tax sectors).
so what do you think should i do? write him or just order again?i currently stick to powerades stuff (god luck he is back), wich has a very nice head high and i like to snort, but in terms of price/performance it is quite expensive compared to bm. the service to get it in 24-48h is of course out of any competition(i did over 10 orders and he let me down not one single time. i think he just fucks up with foreign countries/big orders). nevertheless i think being able to binge 10gramms in a week(with several sleeping) seems to relatively hard cut. on the other side it has of course also a good side, so that you dont get addicted too fast to too high dosages(i guess you could just go to meth for the max bang of the bug, of course with all the hard downside coming from that. for me personal its sure to better never even try it).
so im happy for any good suggestions where to buy of what it think, just to order at bm again and look what happens. cc for my part is sadly out of reach, because i will never go the risk ordering outside eu(customs).
as far as a i can see there are also no new ueber-highend vendorts. im not really the jung tester for a cheap bug, but want a reliable source for a fair quality and price and dont want to hassle around with that shit all the time(bad enough they killed btc24 and i now have to find i new way to get washed btc). it has also a lot to do with trust. ppl from my "short" experience i would trust would be e.g.
weed: bud-supplies(s5haze expensive but super professional packing and organization, weed was good but not expectational, but i think thats a matter of taste), alexandrus(white widow had the exact right dose for me to not total fuck your brain up and be able to enjoy it without half a bottle of booze, also that guy stayed calm with me even transit took over a month. maybe for some the stuff is too week, but i deff will order again); pflegerin (tested the orange bud promo and it was dirt cheep and ultrastrong(!)), carlos lopez (very fair priced, different and interesting weed products, cant go wrong. delivery from him and maligan was fasted from any non dometic country. both 3 days!)
benzos: maligan. bilsterd original xanax, especially i liked the extended release for social shit. not sure if its good at amph overdose but i just took 3 at once and it did work after 50-60min...... (that was the worst overdose i ever had after i bombed a much to huge amount after binging for two days long and where i was not sure to die.). also very good maligans frontin (alprzazolarm ir). not blistered, but they do there job ( not so experienced in benzos , because as a former alcoholic the potential danger of them it to high for me and so its only a withdrawal for alcohol or amph-overdose source for me. normally better use booze witch gives me more fun(dopamin?) and getting rid of t physical withdrawal of hat is a joke compared to hardcore benzoaddicts. at least from what i red, and alk withdrawal i had myself. not worse if you get your pillls each few hours and after a few days your ok, okay for some super hardcore mega addicts with delirium tremens it can be more diffiult. i just saw one starting but 5 min later he was ok again (dunno what they incected him).
azura540: blistered pakistani valiums were good, at least when i took 5 together with some weed i felt them pretty strong in the legs uk-pharam: blister valiums, seems good, not tested
IMPORTONT QUESTION: what is best on amph-overdose, i fool for it so often, caus i tend to binge masturbating and masturbating, especially taking a line short before climax and go an and go an again, and than after i have finally come (several lines and hours later) with a unbelievable super-orgasm for a few seks/mins (complete flushing my brain with dopamine, serotonin etc, and i can tell you, exactly here lies the main potential of psychical dependence on amph for me. you will never ever have such a orgasm without drugs) i sometimes try to crash nearly instantly, especially has to stop loud music etc (heart rate going up, feel like ants in the finger/hands and feet, hard to sit down, hard to concentrate not to hyperventilate/breath normal, blurred vision, if its especially strong even ants-feel in the face etc...you know that shit) i guess best would be a beta blocker, but what would be the less hard options. i especially wonder if it is best to lie down in bed and just move your feets or is it better to walk around and do exercise or try to stay at the pc at all costs(im bit afraid of all the bloodpressure could move totally in the brain if you lie down, but im also afraid i could lose suddenly conscientiousness and fell from a chair). so to be honest, the real uebercrash i only had when bombing after a two days binge-session in the beginning(i can never remember breathing that fast and had an exploding heart rate, lying with the phone in the hand on my bed not sure to call police but at that point i also was ok with dying and so did nothing, just wrote a letter an the table next to the bed(as far as my hand was able to hold a pencil). i also took 2 benzos but im not sure if they worked at all or really needed 30-50min. it really got worse and worse the fist 20-30. caus i was totally unable to move to the pc i couldnt even look up if taking more benzos would help or could be counterproductive). nasal until now i always got rid of it when i feel it starts(not very often) and kick in benzos pretty fast so its mostly gone in 20-30 minutes without getting anywhere dramatic (just a very bad feeling, lite ants-hands and not able to listen to musik(heartbeat going instantly up like shit), sitting few mins on bed to calm down)but also the nice binging is than over for the next 2-3h at least. the time with the wrong gone bombing i had 15 min ueberrush endorphin/dopamin/etc flood through the brain constantly(wave after wave, eacht minute the next, total crazy) while just sitting and listening to musik. never ever had sth like that before, but you see where it ended. also how many benzos would you take? i mostly took 2-3 (1mg) caus i was little afraid if that could even worsen. i also think that diazepam would be better than xanax in this case? i checked up and could find there is no real antidote for amph. that makes it a bit dangerous. if diazepam should not help enough beta blockers and whole medical ambulance with machines seems to be necessary.
ampf:powerrade: around 30-40mg, always fast and reliable, always around same quality. fastest service i know. never any problem. bm.: 5.1 1g arrived around 4 weeks later. was very much (i guess more than one gram) and lasted a lot. 12.03 2g, this time i took fast delivery. it did not arrive like mentioned above. do to lak of communication im also unsure if there is currently a special situation regarding german orders, bm thinking i scam him (sure for 2g? on 100%clean account), or what the fuck happened. maybe best to stay calm with any germany order from spain for some more week or just risk it?
the point is i dont give a shit on that mad "postman/deliverer" steeling letter with powder in it. who the fuck would be so crazy to taste a unknown powder from a letter...........
my guess is they stole a whole van with sacks of post in hope for easter cash or wathever, but then there for sure i could not be the only one not recieving his package.
big law enforcement operation would also have caught more letters, or at least i think i should have received sth from them by now.
its all very strange for me............
any suggestion?(i use a real address where it is always delivered to)
tl;dr i want to highlight that bm gave me unasked a full refund. he obvious did not want to scam me.i would also have been ok with a 50% refund(asked for 1g or 2g resend). if bm manages all this alone, i fully understand all the stress he has to go thru. if he relies on further ppl, he might think about educate them better. a nearly perfect product deserves a better service and with both together it could set the bar even higher.
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@nomnom1: Glad to hear you were able to work out a solution with BM.
As for OD'ing. In the hospital they give Diazepam (Valium). If you wanna get those, get the 10mg ones and start with just one when you think you need it. It should work after 30 minutes.
Btw: Frontin = Xanax = Alprazolam.
Only the dosage is different I think. Frontin =0.5mg and Xanax is usually 1mg or 2mg.
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on supplements to aid dopamine / amphetamine efficiency,
Has anyone tried N-Acetyl L-Tyrosine? It's a derivate of L-tyrosine supposdely crosses bbb and more readily available than regular l-tyrosine.
i bought some http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Grams-0-35-Oz-N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine-NALT-Bulk-Powder-/170818817437?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c5984d9d
I've had decent results with NOW Foods l-phenylalanine (better than regular l-tyrosine).
on bm shipping:
earlier this month his stuff arrived to the very west of europe in 1.5 weeks, no complaints there. good stealth can't imagine it getting caught up or lost and never had problems receiving from BM.. although I never had asingle order of drugs (been ordering shit online since 2005 , 2007 to this address) like 200+ transactions not come through. maybeits my area in this country where the customs / postal service dont do shit.. i mean i received a box including 50x ritalin.. 5 diff types of benzo and tramadol that was rattling of 100s pills in blisters.. no problem lol. yet i frequently see it as no order country "tough customs".. tough customs my ass. they couldn't intercept a fat baby even if it fell right on their faces.
Any info on what's different from the previous batch?
the yellowey stuff just makes my hurt thump fast then I feel crashy after only 3h :/
Here's the one you missed from April 13th.
" . . . the batch has been thoroughly cleaned, tested and dried. We have introduced a quality control procedure so the batches will be always perfect. The procedure has been improved iteration by iteration, reaching to almost perfection. You would have to look VERY deeply to see the differences between our Amphetamine sulfate and the Pharmaceutical grade amph.
In conclusion this Speed is really superb, the best we have done so far, you'll be amazed.
Cheers
BM
I think that should answer your question. As to the "heart thump fast" and "crashy after 3 hrs" That sounds like a combination of 2 things. Increasing tolerance, and very pure amphetamine. I've had some lengthy discussions recently with a seasoned Vendor, who vends on the road and on the street, and knows others in this business, and from what he's seen in his many years doing this, when he gets his regular customers some really pure amph, like above 70%, they have similar complaints, (not the consistency, the 'bodyload'). Then he gets stuff that he knows is half the strength and cut, and they seem to prefer the lesser strength! ???
So you might want to use the old "less is more" idea. Right now I'm down to my last like 200mgs and I've been chipping away at it very conservatively, after my whopping 24 hours of abstaining ::) I've found that I can reach almost the same level of satisfaction, and I used an herbal caffeine/gurana/ginko tea drink I get from Herbalife, as an enhancer to stretch it out. I'm amazed at how little I actually have to do.
I rarely drink coffee or any other caffeinated drinks since starting adderall treatment. Especially now that I get the "good stuff". So when I do use caffeine, and the other herbal stims, it really puts the "rockets in my pockets" :o
Well, this will be a whole new batch as the master says, so who knows? - Those negatives may just go away.
Peace
jagfug
Hm thanks, although I guess I'll have to wait for reviews by people who react simiarily to amp like I do.
Personally I digress. Although I'm probably beating a dead horse writing since this discussion been here before :)
I have used 3 different BM batches dating back over a year. the synth always gave me heavy bodyload while 2 diff CC batches dont even give me mild heart rate increase. I currently have a gram of it right now but I'm not using it. Can't really be much of tolerance thing since I have 1-2 week breaks without withdrawals (meaning I didn't have much dependency). I could take 100mg of CC and not get bodyload like 50mg of BM, while getting much stronger clean amph action.
so hopefully this new batch has less bodyload although I've got CC on the way (I think, haven't been able to login to SR :( ) The good batch of MrFireUK when he wasn't scamming is the only one that has had virtually no bodyload too.
I also had MaxH previous batch that puts my heartrate to about 100 in equivalent stimulation doses.. his new batch that is very wet has about similar bodyload to bm though... I get heart rate around 120 from when I consider it too much (it's not a dangerous one but its definitely not something I feel happy about running at 16 hours several days etc. obv can take Propranolol to counter but I'd rather not take betablockers so that I feel comfortable taking amph. I want to live a relatively acceptable life span :D
My sober resting heart rate is a healthy athletic 50 bpm with low bp 100/65.
I cut down my amp use lately and while I was ok with the bodyload before I definitely avoid it now. The inadvertent body shredding effect has improved my looks. I didn't realize I could look so much better cutting a bit of body fat, but I want to get muscle back so starting gymming again.. replacing the frequent amph use with daily exercise bike and jogging lol. I'll stick to using amp 1-2 days a week now (one superpower working day and one superpower socializing day)
amphetamine is like the supermario powerup and you grow 2x and throw fireballs all over a motherfucker. although if you run around like that everyday you soon get burnt by it.
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I'm pretty bummed out too about bitcoin24 being closed down, luckily I had no funds left there though. I prefer to not mess around with SEPA and all that stuff so I didn't find a replacement yet.
With Bitcoin24 I could just use an anonymous preloaded debit card, log on, buy btc, transfer them out, log off and this in 5 minutes tops.
and that´s exactly why bitcoin-24 has been shut down :(
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and that´s exactly why bitcoin-24 has been shut down :(
Of course I take all the responsibility for bitcoin24 being closed, but there are some other reasons too:
1. because the Polish authorities, per request of of a German government agency, locked the bank account to investigate possible money laundering and fraud.
2. because there was a bug in the trading engine causing people to receive the amount of bitcoin they purchased multiple times for free where others received none at all.
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and that´s exactly why bitcoin-24 has been shut down :(
The problem is that it got too big and too well known. Something similar in a more private circle without daytime traders would work much better.
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Yes! Finally, my order from CC has arrived :D
Datestamp has faded a lot so it's quite hard to read the date it got stamped, but it looks like March 13th or 19th. But that means it took 5-6 weeks to reach me.. damn :o
It also don't have the orange bar code printed on the letter which means that it hasn't gone through the automatic sorting machine, I guess that's where the problem was.
Damn I feel so bad now for the reship.. because I think that one should arrive as well then.. ::)
All my worries of being taken by the police are now over though 8)
*opens ziplock baggie*
Ahhhh the smell, how I missed that :D
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Yes! Finally, my order from CC has arrived :D
Datestamp has faded a lot so it's quite hard to read the date it got stamped, but it looks like March 13th or 19th. But that means it took 5-6 weeks to reach me.. damn :o
It also don't have the orange bar code printed on the letter which means that it hasn't gone through the automatic sorting machine, I guess that's where the problem was.
Damn I feel so bad now for the reship.. because I think that one should arrive as well then.. ::)
All my worries of being taken by the police are now over though 8)
*opens ziplock baggie*
Ahhhh the smell, how I missed that :D
Unbelievable. That's a first for me on SR.
And just as i'm ready to release new listings SR decides to not let me in.
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No worries my brother! Pay him/her/them when the other comes! No need for feeling bad! You've done nothing wrong! Just think of the good karma - not that BS thing in here, but REAL karma! - you'll make doing it that way! At least you got something and isn't that a wonderful start!
Yes! Finally, my order from CC has arrived :D
Datestamp has faded a lot so it's quite hard to read the date it got stamped, but it looks like March 13th or 19th. But that means it took 5-6 weeks to reach me.. damn :o
It also don't have the orange bar code printed on the letter which means that it hasn't gone through the automatic sorting machine, I guess that's where the problem was.
Damn I feel so bad now for the reship.. because I think that one should arrive as well then.. ::)
All my worries of being taken by the police are now over though 8)
*opens ziplock baggie*
Ahhhh the smell, how I missed that :D
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Posting to update that I have been getting enthusiastic reviews from buyers regarding my Crystal Meth. I will list 1.0z and above when the site comes back up.
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I always used bitstamp and SEPA (for europeans).. it's great because 1. fast wire transfer 2. no transfer fee.
It's so easy you guys need to just get internet banking with your branch. All I do is login to my internet bank then transfer and there's 0% fee and my money appears now in 2 days after initiating transfer then I buy bitcoins instantly to my wallet and they're transferred to SR shortly there after.
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Except that's not anonymous. Good luck convincing the cops that the transfer was "to pay some guy on ebay" when they don't give a shit.
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Except that's not anonymous. Good luck convincing the cops that the transfer was "to pay some guy on ebay" when they don't give a shit.
This is so dumb my head hurts. It's not anonymous that i made a SEPA euro bank transfer to a bitcoin market. So what? I could be trading bitcoins.
How I spend the bitcoins is totally anonymous. You sarcy imbecile. They don't give a shit? Sorry but how are they gonna prosecute me for anythign at all? They can't track where the fuck I sent my bitcoins from my wallet and last time i checked it's not illegal to send bitcoins to SR. It's not illegal to buy bitcoins so go eat a fat one seriously.
Jesus christ that is one stupid ass arguement. and what fucking cops are on my case of undetected 35 transactions?
I'm in too much of a bad mood to address this and I'd rather just punch you in the face "GOOD LUCK CONVINCING" fuck off wiht your snide remark you twonk. You don't know what you're talking about yet manage to get all snide over something you're completely wrong about so eat it.
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Haha, someone's in a bad mood :D
But you're right indeed. The SEPA transfer is not anonymous but everything that happens afterwards is.
btw:
Can any of you guys give an estimate of average shipping times to western europe from CC and BM ?
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Haha, someone's in a bad mood :D
But you're right indeed. The SEPA transfer is not anonymous but everything that happens afterwards is.
btw:
Can any of you guys give an estimate of average shipping times to western europe from CC and BM ?
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Haha, someone's in a bad mood :D
But you're right indeed. The SEPA transfer is not anonymous but everything that happens afterwards is.
btw:
Can any of you guys give an estimate of average shipping times to western europe from CC and BM ?
CC about 14 days, BM about 5 days
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Western Europe is usually about 5-10 days. Not very often that mail takes 14 days or longer to Western Europe. Unless you're Knomo then it takes 5-10 weeks:)
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Except that's not anonymous. Good luck convincing the cops that the transfer was "to pay some guy on ebay" when they don't give a shit.
This is so dumb my head hurts. It's not anonymous that i made a SEPA euro bank transfer to a bitcoin market. So what? I could be trading bitcoins.
How I spend the bitcoins is totally anonymous. You sarcy imbecile. They don't give a shit? Sorry but how are they gonna prosecute me for anythign at all? They can't track where the fuck I sent my bitcoins from my wallet and last time i checked it's not illegal to send bitcoins to SR. It's not illegal to buy bitcoins so go eat a fat one seriously.
Jesus christ that is one stupid ass arguement. and what fucking cops are on my case of undetected 35 transactions?
I'm in too much of a bad mood to address this and I'd rather just punch you in the face "GOOD LUCK CONVINCING" fuck off wiht your snide remark you twonk. You don't know what you're talking about yet manage to get all snide over something you're completely wrong about so eat it.
Yes, everything after the transfer is anonymous. However, if the SR is somehow compromised and they obtain a list of user addresses, they can track transfers to those addresses backwards through the public records, right back to your SEPA info. More intermediate transfers = better, because they'd have to serve papers/compromise each of the companies between (e.g. Instawallet) to get this info.
Sure, they don't care about you, but you recommended this method, and it's important to note that those with many more transactions or order sizes might want to be more careful.
Calm down, by the way.
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New BM is in transit.
Fingers, toes and all that crossed ;)
Wish I could sleep until it arrives :P
Also hoping for CC's listings to go up, c'mon CC!
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Does anyone know average CC times to USA? Today was like day 11 and the more time that passes the more i want it!! I just read about other dudes shit being hand-sorted, does this happen a lot? If so i can probably add like 3 or 4 weeks huh? I hate rushing to the box just for it to be empty, fucks up my whole day! Its weird b/c when I first ordered it i wasnt too excited about it, i just wanted to take some wit molly an get a lil more energy. Here in the past week or so i have become interested in it to help get shit done. Im usually just so tired/lazy i never do anything. Also i stay up too late and then have to go to work and it seems this stuff might cover up the tired( at least for a few hours)
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Well I stand by and amend my advice for the 2-3 europeans itt who are trouble getting BTC..
If you're not ordering major drug offence amounts of amphetamine while entering your address unencrypted because you're a genius, there's no hassle with SEPA transfers. www.bitstamp.net never let me down and internet banking is free with most euro banks, a few clicks and you initiate a free of charge transfer and 2 days later you have bitcoins... God(hah) bless the European Union.
Except that's not anonymous. Good luck convincing the cops that the transfer was "to pay some guy on ebay" when they don't give a shit.
This is so dumb my head hurts. It's not anonymous that i made a SEPA euro bank transfer to a bitcoin market. So what? I could be trading bitcoins.
How I spend the bitcoins is totally anonymous. You sarcy imbecile. They don't give a shit? Sorry but how are they gonna prosecute me for anythign at all? They can't track where the fuck I sent my bitcoins from my wallet and last time i checked it's not illegal to send bitcoins to SR. It's not illegal to buy bitcoins so go eat a fat one seriously.
Jesus christ that is one stupid ass arguement. and what fucking cops are on my case of undetected 35 transactions?
I'm in too much of a bad mood to address this and I'd rather just punch you in the face "GOOD LUCK CONVINCING" fuck off wiht your snide remark you twonk. You don't know what you're talking about yet manage to get all snide over something you're completely wrong about so eat it.
Yes, everything after the transfer is anonymous. However, if the SR is somehow compromised and they obtain a list of user addresses, they can track transfers to those addresses backwards through the public records, right back to your SEPA info. More intermediate transfers = better, because they'd have to serve papers/compromise each of the companies between (e.g. Instawallet) to get this info.
Sure, they don't care about you, but you recommended this method, and it's important to note that those with many more transactions or order sizes might want to be more careful.
Calm down, by the way.
Well, first of all this is the result of what happens when you take 4mg of flunitrazepam / rohypnol. I've no benzo dependence or tolerance, but I think I have natural tolerance still- and was trying to get to sleep after a single bm dose of 40mg but I forgot the golden rule of roofies... Less is better. 0.5-1mg sedates me. 2-4mg hypes me up and makes me aggro. So sorry if I overreacted to what was just a minor snide remark.
In Ireland they simply don't have the nous or resources to do this kind of tech investigation. In Sweden say sweden amphetamine is low schedule drug and possession is met with fines even in larger quantites (it's in the class of benzos), so for these two countries would they put this kind of effort into potentially busting someone to fine them for a minor narcotics offense. If I was american I'd be paranoid but.. sepa is euro so nothing to do with them. and the people unable to get bitcoins in the thread, from what I know don't buy distribution amounts. they buy minor offence amounts in the majority of european countries.
Fine if you're ordering 1kg of amphetamine ...
but COME ON. If you're ordering large size orders that exceed minor offence amounts you're not sending your address unencrypted (if you do then you deserve to get in trouble). So I really don't understand how, if SR was compromised (by who exactly? the DEA? and they would influence every european country to go after thousands of consumers on SR- and the big break through would be SEPA transfers to a bicoin trading site (where the wallet is anonymous STILL).. other than the records of withdrawaling from say bitstamp to the wallet identifying this as the source.. which they would also have to compromise to get their records ... and they'd have to "serve papers" to a slovenian bitcoin company to release ALL of it's users bicoin wallet withdrawals... THE AMOUNT of paperwork is still obscene... and then what? Records of someonme having purchased substances on SR, now dependent on the costumers country laws... they would have to get a warrant and search their property (and really, if you're sitting on kilograms you don't fkn keep them at the address you received them).
I mean, there's no logic to be afraid of making a SEPA transfer if you're encrypting your address as you should. It's a damn nightmare for LE to get anywhere with it.
but sure, let me amend my advice:
If you're buying personal use amounts (which I assume everyone ITT is), I recommend you use SEPA.. I use https://www.bitstamp.net/
It's the 21st century so I imagine pretty much every Eu bank has free internet banking. It's about as easy as using your credit card to buy bitcoins in 2 days..
Don't type your address in the box on the off chance or maybe inevitability that "SR is compromised"- but I trust the measures of anonymity.. if you encrypt or even use fricken privnote the only person with your address is the vendor.. some of who live in AFRICA!
I don't know, the whole
If I'm wrong here then could someone explain to me how this is dangerous and risky in any way?
SR keep records of your address??? I don't see anywhere SR asks for your address and I wasn't aware they even kept your address in a database, do they? why would they? and how would this database be compromised.. I meaaan surely they don't keep it on an office computer in a text document (if they keep records of people who order kilograms of drugs on here, who don't encrypt their address to vendor).
I don't see why people ITT should be paranoid about buying bitcoins with SEPA transfer. it takes 2 days and there's no fee.... you're anonymous, unless you're a dummy buying large amounts.. entering in your address in the address box rather that pgp or other encryption so there's.. uhg. i've said enough.
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Can any of you guys give an estimate of average shipping times to western europe from CC and BM ?
Wes europe here, CC: Last time it took 5 days (monday ship friday arrived). Can't remember specifically the other times, I think just shy of 2 weeks.
4 orders BM about 1.5 weeks including weekend. say, monday ship arrive following week tuesday in general.
Neither have ever taken longer than 2 weeks. ironically the most obscure location I've ordered from and it's cheap $3 mail service has been as fast than receiving mail from NEIGHBOURING country.
Hopefully all my order from CC take just 5 business days :P
Post from Holland tends to take 2-3 days. Royalmail tends to take twice the amount. Brit mail sucks balls. The dutch and their former colonies sure know how to do post.
Spanish mail I can forgive because they need their siesta
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I ordered from BM last Wednesday and it was delivered to the western US Tuesday.
This is my first time with amphetamine sulfate. It's yellow and waxy.
It kept me awake and dilated my pupils.
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I ordered from BM last Wednesday and it was delivered to the western US Tuesday.
This is my first time with amphetamine sulfate. It's yellow and waxy.
It kept me awake and dilated my pupils.
So do you enjoy it or not ? :D
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I ordered from BM last Wednesday and it was delivered to the western US Tuesday.
This is my first time with amphetamine sulfate. It's yellow and waxy.
It kept me awake and dilated my pupils.
Waxy?
Is this the new batch?
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Thanks to all those who took the time to say a couple words about my service. I have more product in stock and listings are back up. I am a USA vendor of paste :)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/3ab28d5a29
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I ordered from BM last Wednesday and it was delivered to the western US Tuesday.
This is my first time with amphetamine sulfate. It's yellow and waxy.
It kept me awake and dilated my pupils.
Waxy?
Is this the new batch?
No, I missed it by a couple days.
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Unless you're Knomo then it takes 5-10 weeks:)
Oh you :P
Liking this batch btw :) Tomorrow first festival for me so time to put it to a real test 8)
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Think I'm first to announce having received BM's new batch!
had to spam my way through the newbie forum - despite first posting in this thread well over a year ago - just to share this good news...and gloat!
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Ok...so just in case anyone is interested in how she moves...
firstly...I had minor issues gaining access to the final layer, the inner sanctum where the queen resides - BM, don't you know your customers are over-excited fidgety fuckin idiots from the moment they see your gift has arrived! cut us some slack! lol
looks very light - white or almost white in colour...ok let's take a whiff of her waft...well mildly scented nail polish remover at first - dunno if that's treatment to packaging or from inside though.
texture - well she come almost in one flat pressed clump...but not as rigid as the previous waxy princess...you can almost tell right away that she wants to be powdered - she's just waiting for me to release her from the tight, asphyxiating bodybag that she's been cooped up in over the long but quick journey.
two tiny lumps weighing in at a combined 25mg, tumble out after a little tug - almost straight away she chops up into a fine powder...so I let her rest for a while before snorting half. Comparatively, very mild on the nose. no pain.
she's been a pleasure to deal with thus far. Polite, gracious, an enchantress, and incredibly beautiful - I have every confidence that this regal stunner will be an absolute whore in the bedroom!
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kinda sounds like rape
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Well I stand by and amend my advice for the 2-3 europeans itt who are trouble getting BTC..
If you're not ordering major drug offence amounts of amphetamine while entering your address unencrypted because you're a genius, there's no hassle with SEPA transfers. www.bitstamp.net never let me down and internet banking is free with most euro banks, a few clicks and you initiate a free of charge transfer and 2 days later you have bitcoins... God(hah) bless the European Union.
Except that's not anonymous. Good luck convincing the cops that the transfer was "to pay some guy on ebay" when they don't give a shit.
This is so dumb my head hurts. It's not anonymous that i made a SEPA euro bank transfer to a bitcoin market. So what? I could be trading bitcoins.
How I spend the bitcoins is totally anonymous. You sarcy imbecile. They don't give a shit? Sorry but how are they gonna prosecute me for anythign at all? They can't track where the fuck I sent my bitcoins from my wallet and last time i checked it's not illegal to send bitcoins to SR. It's not illegal to buy bitcoins so go eat a fat one seriously.
Jesus christ that is one stupid ass arguement. and what fucking cops are on my case of undetected 35 transactions?
I'm in too much of a bad mood to address this and I'd rather just punch you in the face "GOOD LUCK CONVINCING" fuck off wiht your snide remark you twonk. You don't know what you're talking about yet manage to get all snide over something you're completely wrong about so eat it.
Yes, everything after the transfer is anonymous. However, if the SR is somehow compromised and they obtain a list of user addresses, they can track transfers to those addresses backwards through the public records, right back to your SEPA info. More intermediate transfers = better, because they'd have to serve papers/compromise each of the companies between (e.g. Instawallet) to get this info.
Sure, they don't care about you, but you recommended this method, and it's important to note that those with many more transactions or order sizes might want to be more careful.
Calm down, by the way.
Well, first of all this is the result of what happens when you take 4mg of flunitrazepam / rohypnol. I've no benzo dependence or tolerance, but I think I have natural tolerance still- and was trying to get to sleep after a single bm dose of 40mg but I forgot the golden rule of roofies... Less is better. 0.5-1mg sedates me. 2-4mg hypes me up and makes me aggro. So sorry if I overreacted to what was just a minor snide remark.
In Ireland they simply don't have the nous or resources to do this kind of tech investigation. In Sweden say sweden amphetamine is low schedule drug and possession is met with fines even in larger quantites (it's in the class of benzos), so for these two countries would they put this kind of effort into potentially busting someone to fine them for a minor narcotics offense. If I was american I'd be paranoid but.. sepa is euro so nothing to do with them. and the people unable to get bitcoins in the thread, from what I know don't buy distribution amounts. they buy minor offence amounts in the majority of european countries.
Fine if you're ordering 1kg of amphetamine ...
but COME ON. If you're ordering large size orders that exceed minor offence amounts you're not sending your address unencrypted (if you do then you deserve to get in trouble). So I really don't understand how, if SR was compromised (by who exactly? the DEA? and they would influence every european country to go after thousands of consumers on SR- and the big break through would be SEPA transfers to a bicoin trading site (where the wallet is anonymous STILL).. other than the records of withdrawaling from say bitstamp to the wallet identifying this as the source.. which they would also have to compromise to get their records ... and they'd have to "serve papers" to a slovenian bitcoin company to release ALL of it's users bicoin wallet withdrawals... THE AMOUNT of paperwork is still obscene... and then what? Records of someonme having purchased substances on SR, now dependent on the costumers country laws... they would have to get a warrant and search their property (and really, if you're sitting on kilograms you don't fkn keep them at the address you received them).
I mean, there's no logic to be afraid of making a SEPA transfer if you're encrypting your address as you should. It's a damn nightmare for LE to get anywhere with it.
but sure, let me amend my advice:
If you're buying personal use amounts (which I assume everyone ITT is), I recommend you use SEPA.. I use https://www.bitstamp.net/
It's the 21st century so I imagine pretty much every Eu bank has free internet banking. It's about as easy as using your credit card to buy bitcoins in 2 days..
Don't type your address in the box on the off chance or maybe inevitability that "SR is compromised"- but I trust the measures of anonymity.. if you encrypt or even use fricken privnote the only person with your address is the vendor.. some of who live in AFRICA!
I don't know, the whole
If I'm wrong here then could someone explain to me how this is dangerous and risky in any way?
SR keep records of your address??? I don't see anywhere SR asks for your address and I wasn't aware they even kept your address in a database, do they? why would they? and how would this database be compromised.. I meaaan surely they don't keep it on an office computer in a text document (if they keep records of people who order kilograms of drugs on here, who don't encrypt their address to vendor).
I don't see why people ITT should be paranoid about buying bitcoins with SEPA transfer. it takes 2 days and there's no fee.... you're anonymous, unless you're a dummy buying large amounts.. entering in your address in the address box rather that pgp or other encryption so there's.. uhg. i've said enough.
The addresses I was talking about are BTC account addresses...... It's unlikely that anyone is storing anything, but in the rare case that they are (and they might be, right, for bargaining power?): imagine the cops bust SR and see a list of buyer BTC addresses. They then go to blockchain.info and walk backwards from your SR address and see the endpoint, a bitcoin-24.com address or whatever, a site owned by some kid who doesn't really know what he's doing. They lean on him (like the feds and CIA won't do that? They aren't corrupt?) and get transaction histories (again, depends on whether the kid's storing them, but some people would keep that shit as a bargaining chip for when they're in the shit), and they see the SEPA record, and they see your name.
You can claim that you sent it to some guy, who sent it to someone else, etc., etc., but having any transaction ultimately linked to the SR looks bad. Especially when there was a story a few months back about a kid getting busted because the cops raided some dealer and got an address he'd shipped to a week ago. If they can see you as the input, and you as the output, it doesn't matter how many damned intermediate transfers you have: it looks bad. OK? You think every vendor on this site burns the decrypted addresses because they care about you so much?
Sure, this is all paranoid bullshit, but it's not hard for cops to lean on Internet sites, and larger buyers here need to worry about being the 5% that gets targeted. The rest of us should worry about being made examples of in the media. "Paranoid bullshit", but it's the next 20 years of your life you're talking about.
I'd rather find the one or two mail order services that truly anonymise me, you dig?
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Also, CC, when do your listings actually go back up?
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Ok...so just in case anyone is interested in how she moves...
firstly...I had minor issues gaining access to the final layer, the inner sanctum where the queen resides - BM, don't you know your customers are over-excited fidgety fuckin idiots from the moment they see your gift has arrived! cut us some slack! lol
looks very light - white or almost white in colour...ok let's take a whiff of her waft...well mildly scented nail polish remover at first - dunno if that's treatment to packaging or from inside though.
texture - well she come almost in one flat pressed clump...but not as rigid as the previous waxy princess...you can almost tell right away that she wants to be powdered - she's just waiting for me to release her from the tight, asphyxiating bodybag that she's been cooped up in over the long but quick journey.
two tiny lumps weighing in at a combined 25mg, tumble out after a little tug - almost straight away she chops up into a fine powder...so I let her rest for a while before snorting half. Comparatively, very mild on the nose. no pain.
she's been a pleasure to deal with thus far. Polite, gracious, an enchantress, and incredibly beautiful - I have every confidence that this regal stunner will be an absolute whore in the bedroom!
How is the body load compared to the last batch? Vasoconstriction, chills, rigid muscles, that stuff.
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I can't wait till CC gets his listings back up. His amp is my favorite.
With the fluctuation in BTC is it better for vendors to wait till the price drops to increase their BTC rate so as to enjoy the booms? That is in no way aimed at any vendor specifically, it just crossed my mind.
I've not been on here for a while, is it still BM and CC who are the best? Why did BM's gear smell the same as Hollandonline's and Powerade's? I'm sure it was stronger but smelt so similar. Holland's was good, even though higher doses were needed it worked out cheaper.
Saying that, amp must affect everyone so differently because BM's is so popular. I've only got love for CC's alchemy, it's just so clean and clear head feeling.
God speed CC ;)
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How is the body load compared to the last batch? Vasoconstriction, chills, rigid muscles, that stuff.
my judgment on this will be a bit cloudy as I already had a small amount of the previous batch in my system when trying the new stuff yesterday...
nevertheless, I got the (unreliable) impression that this one is a bit gentler on the physical side. I didnt have too many problems with the previous batches, but still, subjectively i think the side-effects were less intense, no racing heart, and only very very mild vaso-constriction.
will need to test it on its own after a day or two...
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This is an unreliable source of happiness. At least for this old druggie.
And it won't last forever! I may be 20-something years younger than you, but I haven't had a happy day for a long long time. I'm really smart, I have values and I'm a relatively handsome guy. Yet I'm so fucked by social anxiety that I have rarely any friends, haven't got my bachelor's degree although I'm probably Ivy League material and haven't ever had a girlfriend. And I'm turning 26 soon. This shit was rendering me kinda stunned at last. All I did was stand still and watch my life pass. Amphetamine does give me back my mood and the power to do something. But, it's a loan you get from myself that needs to be paid back some time in the future. Use it to change something and work on yourself and not for the hell of it.
If you think you can stop and still have a liveable life: DO IT! But I think you already got a handle on doing drugs when I read that you do H _once in a while_. Which makes me wanna grab my keys, drive to the airport, fly over to PA, track you down and slap you right in the face by the way!
I'm sure that everyone who does drugs, does so to get something they don't have in their lives and seemingly can't get otherwise. Use to enable yourself to get what you want. Not just to get what you want.
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Amphetamine does give me back my mood and the power to do something. But, it's a loan you get from myself that needs to be paid back some time in the future. Use it to change something and work on yourself and not for the hell of it.
If you think you can stop and still have a liveable life: DO IT! But I think you already got a handle on doing drugs when I read that you do H _once in a while_. Which makes me wanna grab my keys, drive to the airport, fly over to PA, track you down and slap you right in the face by the way!
I'm sure that everyone who does drugs, does so to get something they don't have in their lives and seemingly can't get otherwise. Use to enable yourself to get what you want. Not just to get what you want.
+1 for you, as these words are absolutely true.
hopefully everyone understands what´s all about it.
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This is an unreliable source of happiness. At least for this old druggie.
I hope you don't mind me asking, we being anonymous and all, but how often do you take amphetamine? Daily? And at what dosages? In my experience prolonged daily use takes me to some very dark places. I think it's an understatement to say that amphetamine is an unreliable source of happiness since after a while it instead becomes a very reliable source of pure unhappiness. It's the old Substance Abuse Negative Feedback Loop of Doom; the worse I feel the more I depend on amph to allow me to function somewhat OK, but while this might work in the short term it slowly makes my baseline mood worse and worse. At this point it's clearly time for me to take a break, at least for a couple of weeks and preferably a few months.
The problem for me is realising that this switch from speed-makes-me-happy to speed-makes-me-miserable has happened. Apparently it's very easy for me to keep thinking that it's some underlying issues like stress or existential worries (or something like that) that is causing me to feel down and tired. Since I now feel like the amph is the only thing that keeps me functioning, the idea of taking a break feels not only unappealing but downright irresponsible. Sooner or later I have always come to my senses (relatively speaking) and come clean. After a week or so I start feeling human again, and life goes on.
Of course I'm not saying that any of this applies to you, I just wanted to give my view on amphetamine as a long-term source of happiness. Needless to say I now make sure to avoid ending up like this in the first place.
Wow, this was cheesy. Sorry about that. :)
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To all who responded to my blathering, you're all on target.
A tolerable bunch you all are. (pun intended) ;)
That was the bottom of almost two months, crash. Put on 10 lbs in 5 days, starting to feel human again.
Life could always be worse. The fact that I can eat, and have food, I must be grateful for.
I didn't plan on this break, but it's just what I needed. Which tells me someone up there is calling the shots once in a while.
Either that, or I'm incredibly lucky. - Thanks all.
-jag
PS - that was no 'dig' @CC - I was illustrating the madness of dependance. My body thanks the "slow mail Gods". ???
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To all who responded to my blathering, you're all on target.
A tolerable bunch you all are. (pun intended) ;)
That was the bottom of almost two months, crash. Put on 10 lbs in 5 days, starting to feel human again.
Life could always be worse. The fact that I can eat, and have food, I must be grateful for.
I didn't plan on this break, but it's just what I needed. Which tells me someone up there is calling the shots once in a while.
Either that, or I'm incredibly lucky. - Thanks all.
-jag
PS - that was no 'dig' @CC - I was illustrating the madness of dependance. My body thanks the "slow mail Gods". ???
How long did you go without any speed?
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BTW I think I'm going to take an extend break from amp, tolerance is shot to shit. I'll injest some and before that has even taken effect I start re dosing but sniffing small lines. Got through a fair bit of CC's latest batch and felt no euphoria and I'm certain the product is fine.
Also I don't see it mentioned in this thread but in other amphetamine threads on tolerance and neuro toxicity several research papers have been published looking at the link between amp/meth abuse and Parkinson's
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Four weeks sober for me, only had a few biffs on 4/20. No alcohol either. I can highly recommend it! I'm eating, sleeping and acting like almost like a normal person. Lady Amphetamine is going to be a treat from now on, not a regular thing like it was before - it definitely is a loan, with a ballooning interest rate.
Stay safe, friends.
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Just received my order of the new BM batch!
First thing - it was around a point underweight. Not a big deal for me, but I didn't buy 900mg of amphetamine sulphate did I? ;D
Also, I could feel the bag through the envelope. Within Europe it seems you could just put weed in an envelope and it will arrive but it could be stealthed better by simply using card as a packing material.
Anyway, this batch seems really nice. Really nice white colour and a soft consistency which is great for snorting. Opening the bag there was a little bit of the typical speed chemical/solvent smell but that seems to have dissipated after leaving it out for a minute or two. It does seem really clean.
Have done a couple of ~25mg tester lines. Almost no burn or gross drip at all, unlike the yellow batch which hurt like a motherfucker as well as tasting disgusting. Feel pretty energized, no too jittery. No big spike in heart rate though for me that usually happens on the comedown. Hands are cold as fuck but that might be due to the heating being broken.... I'm one of those icy-hands people anyway.
Now to see whether I can leave the rest until the weekend......
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Alright, received first order of BM.
Shipping time very good;
Product itself: well it doesn't have a nasty smell and the texture is really smooth.
My nose does drips pretty intensely though and I've done a couple of lines and I'm not feeling THAT much.
It's kinda odd as there are so many rave review here. Not saying it's bad quality, maybe it's just me and I still have to get used to the feeling. I'm just not that 'speedy'
It's the first time I've used speed in over 5 years.
I do am a daily user of Concerta (methylphenidate) at a high dose. Could there be any cross tolerance ?
Also I quit a little more than a week ago from my wellbutrin (Antidepressant) because I wasn't feeling the cocaine as I should. Still I don't think this should affect the way speed affects me.
Any explanation ?
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Alright, received first order of BM.
Shipping time very good;
Product itself: well it doesn't have a nasty smell and the texture is really smooth.
My nose does drips pretty intensely though and I've done a couple of lines and I'm not feeling THAT much.
It's kinda odd as there are so many rave review here. Not saying it's bad quality, maybe it's just me and I still have to get used to the feeling. I'm just not that 'speedy'
It's the first time I've used speed in over 5 years.
I do am a daily user of Concerta (methylphenidate) at a high dose. Could there be any cross tolerance ?
Also I quit a little more than a week ago from my wellbutrin (Antidepressant) because I wasn't feeling the cocaine as I should. Still I don't think this should affect the way speed affects me.
Any explanation ?
There is cross-tolerance with methylhenidate and also cocaine. All amphetamine stimulants work in a similar way so cross-tolerance will happen.
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I received CC's wonderful stuff with that hint of orange color to it. Most exquisite. Those who kinda know me, would be proud. I was able to keep it under 30mg's for today. Feel like sleeping tonight, and my ex's Xanax should do the trick! (benefits of remaining on speaking terms ;))
As for my usage and non usage. I was on at least a two month straight run, with really only 5 day breaks here or there. Really not much. So YES I know that's a far cry from any attempt at re-gaining some sort of tolerance.
That being said, I weaned down this last amount to the witty-bitty end. I mean going from railing unmeasured amounts a day (at least 50mg), to scaling back to dividing what was left in half, next day, what was left - in half again, until for like the last 4 days, I might have done 10 down to 5 or less mgs a day.
So really weaned.
Though obviously I suffered a wee bit. I'm getting a little better at this.
That's all outta me. CC is still "Outta sight man" to coin a term from my youth.
BM's new batch sounds superb. And Suidone - yes to all those 'maybes' that may be affecting your tolerance. Hopefully SelfSovereignty is reading, and can take you out to the tool shed and school you in the neurotransmitter maze we all fall into at one time or another.
I hope by now, you've had a bit of a better reaction. Though not having tried the new batch myself yet, I truly can't comment, only to say, I'd be surprised if you weren't more than elated, if not euphoric by now. You're talking the best there is. Next to CC of course. They are the gold standard.
Can't wait till this DDoS shit is over so I can take my own "taste test" ;D
Party on y'all 8)
jag
PS. Making dinner tonight I decide to put on an old CD. (remember those?)- and low and behold, a 1/2g of unknown origin, seems like MaxHavelaar was tucked neatly inside for a rainy day. I'm telling you, there is another entity besides almighty jag. God perhaps? (are we still allowed to say that? ;))
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Cross tolerance could've played a minor role, but I'm on methylphenidate for years and never had a problem before; although i'm now in a much higher dose than back then. Nevertheless, I don't think it's that because no matter how high I dose the speed, I can't seem to get ANY desired effect. No euphoria, energy, horny, nothing. Only a strange pressure on my head. I've dosed in the range between 25-150 and nothing really happened.
Really disappointed about this :( I was looking so much forward to getting that speedy feeling again. When SR is back up, I'l try another vendor and compare. Although the amph looks really great from BM. It has the right texture, smell, consistency etc.. I do know that it's amphetamine as I didn't sleep this night, but there wasn't any type of rush or anything like that. I was really calm.
Only other explanation is that the wellbutrin is still blocking the amph effects. Although this also seems unlikely as I stopped taking them like 10 days ago and they never influenced the effects of methylphenidate.
Weird shit, sad shit :( Maybe I'll try again in couple of weeks and see whether my body responds better back then.
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I'm not that well versed in neurotransmitters. I at least think I have a better grasp on the idea than I used to, thanks to guys on here.
(shining SS beacon into night sky- "calling SelfSovereignty!") ;D
I think a high dose of Methelphenidate could be the reason. I started 1st with that for a year before ever trying adderall or finding SR.
I know for a fact (because I read up on it) - Ritalin hits your dopamine receptors really well. - I was able to kick a 4 year Rx opiate addiction, by gradually switching over to Ritalin. - Maybe your dopamine receptors are like 'spoiled' ???
Something to think about. Do some research yourself! If BM's gear were any less than excellent, it would be all over forums by now. I mean there's always a possibility your bag was from the edge of the bowl or whatever, but really, this seems like more of a "whodunit" to your receptors, than a quality control issue.
At least I hope so, and hope you can solve it.
Keep us posted. I'm always interested to see how these things turn out. Because similar things happen to me, and the rest of us.
Hoping to get a little more feedback generated for you. Look back here later, I bet you'll find some good answers.
Best forum page in the world here! ;D
Best of Luck!
- jag
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Thing about Bupropion (aka Wellbutrin, Zyban, Elontril) is, that it has a lot of active metabolites with a very long half-life (about 3 days) so depending on the dose you've been taking this might still interfere with amphetamine. Bupropion (and maybe it's metabolites) blocks reuptake of NE / DA from the synaptic gap by "getting stuck" in the transporters. Amphetamine does plug into those transporters as well but instead of jamming them it reverses their function, thus releasing more NE / DA into the synaptic gap. Since there's already bupropion (or metabolites) stuck in most of the transporters amphetamine might not come into play as much.
I've been on Bupropion even before I've started doing amphetamine and I've never actually had any kind of euphoria. I do keep doses low though since I'm not really after the rush and truely see amphetamines addictive potential. So maybe I just didn't reach the euphoria threshold.
I find Elontril pretty awesome btw :D
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Alright, thanks for the response.
Yeah, bupropion is pretty amazing. I'm bipolar and it worked wonders for my depression. I just recovered from a 13 month depression and I wanted to do cocaine again but it didn't work as it supposed to be. So therefore I stopped taking it :P
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I just recovered from a 13 month depression
Glad to hear that, I feel you!
Did you feel any kind of withdrawal when you stopped taking them? Couple of weeks ago I went away for the weekend end didn't have them with me... Saturday/Sunday were fine, but Monday/Tuesday were the worst days for like ever. Although I had started taking them again by then. And I'm on 150mg only.
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Thank you very much.
No, no withdrawal effects at all. This does varies from person to person and specific situation. Like a couple of months earlier my depression took in even deeper dive so I had to be put on Cymbalta. I only took it for a month because I stayed in bed 24/24 and I quit cold turkey and had some of the worst side effects; while in this case I've been taking the medicine for about 12 months or so and no withdrawal at all.
I did need to get used to it once I really felt most of it was out of system; you can easily feel it because when I was on bupropion it was always easy to wake etc.. you can really feel the stimulating aspect of it.
Good luck to you too
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when I was on bupropion it was always easy to wake etc.. you can really feel the stimulating aspect of it.
Good luck to you too
Yeah, that's the downside of it... When I started I didn't really sleep for 4 or 5 days straight...
Thanks :)
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Can we get an email for CC and BM incase something happens to SR? :-/
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can someone tell me who bm/cc is? crystal mmeth cat? and bm?
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can someone tell me who bm/cc is? crystal mmeth cat? and bm?
BM = BoyMaster
CC = CapeCrusader
They are the best Amphetamine vendors on Silk Road.
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can someone tell me who bm/cc is? crystal mmeth cat? and bm?
BM = BoyMaster
CC = CapeCrusader
They are the best Amphetamine vendors on Silk Road.
Unfortunately it has been ages that CC put his listings back up. A couple of weeks ago he said too me: next week. Well we're far par a week now :( I suppose he can't source any good speed atm himself.
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Nothing compares to you, Amphetamine.
Nothing.
Exactly. The part that really scares me though, is that I'm not sure anything ever will compare again.
As for methylphenidate and cross tolerance with amphetamine, it's possible, but I never experienced any. I went straight from abusing methylphenidate to abusing amphetamine; even after a year of high daily doses of methylphenidate, 10mg of amphetamine when I first started had me feeling like I could move mountains. Everyone's different though. Bupropion may also interfere, but it won't outright block amphetamine. At least it certainly never did for me. To be frank, the speed off the road just doesn't really do the job. It never really has. CCs gear is the closest it gets for me, but it's still only close. For some reason it takes pharmaceutical grade amphetamine to really get me where I want to go.
But truthfully, these days nothing gets me there. It takes so much that the side effects just... make it not an option, basically. Your experience sounds similar, but I don't see how that can possibly be the situation you're in. I really have no insights is what I'm getting at, I guess.
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can someone tell me who bm/cc is? crystal mmeth cat? and bm?
BM = BoyMaster
CC = CapeCrusader
They are the best Amphetamine vendors on Silk Road.
Unfortunately it has been ages that CC put his listings back up. A couple of weeks ago he said too me: next week. Well we're far par a week now :( I suppose he can't source any good speed atm himself.
CC manufactures it himself. The problems lately have probably put him off. Hell, they've even put me off...
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Greeting
SS is correct. It would be silly of me to put up listings while SR is in this state. I still struggle to log on for long periods of time. Let's hope all the issues are resolved by next week so that i can get back into business.
Best Regards
CC
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I am giving up speed from 3rd May to the 26th May. I plan on taking the rest of my CC and BM order and planting it in a forest somewhere and will collect it when I have completed my journey. Now all I need to do is decide what to do with a BM order I made yesterday
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I am giving up speed from 3rd May to the 26th May. I plan on taking the rest of my CC and BM order and planting it in a forest somewhere and will collect it when I have completed my journey. Now all I need to do is decide what to do with a BM order I made yesterday
Bury it in a separate, unmarked grave, maybe? Plant a small, yellow, waxy cross to mark its coordinates.
Enjoy everything until then.
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CC, out of interest, do you use the Al/Hg rxn, or the urushibara nickel route? I'm going to be doing my first amph synth in quite a few years, and have access to the precursors required for either method, but only 10g of P2NP, so its not worth me doing both.
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I haven't been able to log on for any real amount of time since 4/27, just sporadically. Running low on gear.....not a good feeling lol. I hope this thing gets back up and running asap!
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I haven't been able to log on for any real amount of time since 4/27, just sporadically. Running low on gear.....not a good feeling lol. I hope this thing gets back up and running asap!
Keep trying to log in. It lets you log in every couple of hours or so for an hour or so. Try and get an order in during the time it's up.
I also hope it's up and running 100% normally again soon.
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Whatever you do steer clear of HighSupply's Dutch speed paste.
It's was a complete waste of money. I doubt it even has any amp in it at all.
Vendor is ignoring my messages requesting refund. I also suggested that they take the listing down so they don't lose anymore customers. The listing is still up and they have lost a customer. Spend your coin on vendors that deserve it.
We are lucky to have 2 of the best vendors on SR cooking and supplying our drug of choice. Cheers to CC and BM, you're the best for a reason.
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When SR was back the last time, sometime during the calendar change of April 30th to May 1st, I was able to log on and off multiple times, as I was helping a friend who was having computer troubles. Right up until today, when I realized it was down again, this was late in the day (around 3pm EDT -NYC time)
Just last night I was wondering why CC and others were talking about the shakiness of the program. From the moment it came back, for me, it was very fast.
Makes me wonder if certain countries get affected first and/or take longer to recover. It might even help those working on the issue to know these things.
Anyway, my friend rewarded my computer help with a generous helping of BM's new gear. It's definitely a new batch. Consistency unlike I've ever gotten from him. Great snorting, yet watch out! - Still that dependable, yet always surprising superior strength. Will update w/a better review, as I'm trying to limit my doses. I finally realize I've been taking waaaay too much! - Too high of a daily dose to be specific.
Get back to you all later.
Peace
jagfug
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Greeting
SS is correct. It would be silly of me to put up listings while SR is in this state. I still struggle to log on for long periods of time. Let's hope all the issues are resolved by next week so that i can get back into business.
Best Regards
CC
I'm pissed of ecause I can't lopgin and finalize, i received your order days agoand I've been trying every fricken day. I don't want another auto finalize like this evne tho its in 1-2% i odnt like blemishes becaue I'mn an honest guy fs
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I am giving up speed from 3rd May to the 26th May. I plan on taking the rest of my CC and BM order and planting it in a forest somewhere and will collect it when I have completed my journey. Now all I need to do is decide what to do with a BM order I made yesterday
that's my plan really.......... I can really jst look at myself as an addict for the firs time in my life.I've always been fit, had good social circles and good fiances- other appearance.. gym workout but right now I' m sitting here, 3 days awake (each day I've taken 4 mg flunitrazepam to go to sleep butttttttttttttt then i decided to just do a lil dose n g... well it'seasy for me to say it now but I really need a month of and re approach shit. It's not eve effective other htan making me feel elevated in attentive obsessive behaviour .I can't even get to appreiate cc stuff btu at least unlike theo ther gear at least I'm not taking uyeard of my heart for now . its liek some kddna saturaiton... the other night i spent THREE HOURS typing a faceboook status comment that and realizing htat im gona click post right now lese this ognna go on for a fucking fucktime
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good morning everyone, announcement:
the king is back =) meaning me, not BM
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ohnoes123, don't worry about it: autofinalize has been disabled for the time being. Frankly this seems like precisely the time when it *should* be functioning, but hey... what do I know.
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ohnoes123, don't worry about it: autofinalize has been disabled for the time being. Frankly this seems like precisely the time when it *should* be functioning, but hey... what do I know.
I's so frustrating! I have $1,400 which should have auto-finalised, but it just just says "processing."
I understand the reason for it though, but it's hard to work with no cash flow.
I wonder how long until SR is back to normal? :-/
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I'm at 14 business days for a BM order and still nothing... :/
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I'm at 14 business days for a BM order and still nothing... :/
14 biz days is long. throw in two weekends and we're talking 20, since order placed?
What part of the world are you in, if you don't mind? Northeast US? Germany? Holland? - It helps to know, because certain countries have had issues.
Also you can PM Boymaster on here. Might take a few days, but with the site being down, I would think that frees up a lot of vendors time.
(Here comes the Vendor yelling "Do you have any idea what ......." - lol :P
Anyway, we always help each other keep up with orders that go missing, so please keep us updated.
Feel free to PM me if you're not comfortable divulging any more info on here.
I hope you get it Monday!
Peace
jagfug
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Just got a gram of BM's newest batch (the one he dubbed "the new dimension" of speed) and I have nothing but good things to say.
The shipping was a lot faster than the first time I ordered two months ago, and the product was a lot better as well.
This time it was a pure, pure white. More white than CC's. Like, as white as printer paper. It was slightly wet and smelled a little like solvents but dried very quickly (there wasn't much liquid).
It dried to a powder, rather than the sort of crunchy yellow flakes from two months ago. Tastes like amphetamine.
This stuff had a strong head buzz. Really good stuff. Haven't tried insufflation but I imagine it would be perfect for that.
My one qualm (and its kind of silly) is that the ziploc bag is really hard to open. Like the flaps are small and I can't really pinch them to open it, I had to use my teeth.
Overall though I am super satisfied. Great stuff and keep doing what you're doing
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My first post here. Great review Element12! These threads are really a Godsend. Especially with SR being down so much the past few weeks.
I've been getting a good education from this thread. Maybe it's the amph, but it seems this board has the most intelligent people on it.
Also I saw a few posts about addiction. I've been through rehabs for everything from Quaalude to Alcohol to Coke. Amphetamine is the one drug that truly has given me my life back. It doesn't make my life unmanageable. I'm a much nicer person when I take it, dosing sensibly of course. Though to each their own.
Since starting Adderall 12 years ago, all those other addictions don't bother me. I can take a few beers and not act like an ass. I can take a Valium to relax at night, yet I don't become dependent. So for me, it's been a cure, not a curse. That's just me though.
Everybody has that one substance that grabs them by the short and curlies.
At least the ones who talked about it, recognized they have a problem. That's the first step! (I went to AA University) ;)
I never liked to go on forums before, but since SR went down, I'm starting to like it. Even now that it's back up, I still find myself drifting over here.
So far I've tried CC, BM (not the new one yet), MaxHavelaar, + Mr Importer. Well I've tried others but those four I would recommend. Mr Importer is US only ATM.
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good morning everyone, announcement:
the king is back =) meaning me, not BM
Welcome back, where have you been? increasing EGO holiday? ;)
*grins*
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Hi all,
I need your help folks.... please!
I ordered from CC 17 days ago, but the package hasn't showed up until now :(
I'm located in Germany. I'm loosing more and more faith that it will arrive. Anyone experienced such a long delivery time especially to Germany?
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Hi all,
I need your help folks.... please!
I ordered from CC 17 days ago, but the package hasn't showed up until now :(
I'm located in Germany. I'm loosing more and more faith that it will arrive. Anyone experienced such a long delivery time especially to Germany?
I am in the USA but am also experiencing long delivery time. Its been about 16 buisness days
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Hi all,
I need your help folks.... please!
I ordered from CC 17 days ago, but the package hasn't showed up until now :(
I'm located in Germany. I'm loosing more and more faith that it will arrive. Anyone experienced such a long delivery time especially to Germany?
It's normal for something from Africa to another continent to take that long.
You're lucky you live in Europe. it takes minimum 10 days for anything to arrive to Australia.
if I was you, I'd just order from BoyMaster. it's from Spain so it'll be fast postage and it shouldn't get seized.
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@dingo: Firstly the minimum time for delivery to Australia is not 10 days. I've had orders arrive in as little as 4 days to New Zealand and Australia. Secondly there is no greater chance of seizure than if you were ordering from any other vendor. Most of my orders arrive quickly. It's always this handful of orders that take a little long and go into resolution. This can happen as we saw with Knomo. Orders from the Netherlands that were posted along with his took about 5 days to arrive but his ended up taking 5 weeks to arrive.
You shouldn't speak of things you know nothing about and discouraging people from buying from me. Seriously focus on your own business.
Thanks
CC
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@dingo: Firstly the minimum time for delivery to Australia is not 10 days. I've had orders arrive in as little as 4 days to New Zealand and Australia. Secondly there is no greater chance of seizure than if you were ordering from any other vendor. Most of my orders arrive quickly. It's always this handful of orders that take a little long and go into resolution. This can happen as we saw with Knomo. Orders from the Netherlands that were posted along with his took about 5 days to arrive but his ended up taking 5 weeks to arrive.
You shouldn't speak of things you know nothing about and discouraging people from buying from me. Seriously focus on your own business.
Thanks
CC
Sorry, I wasn't discouraging anyone from ordering from you.
I just said that Euro-Euro mail would arrive faster and I'm fairly sure there isn't a customs check in that case either.
I said 10 days because I've never had any overseas mail arrive in that time. Not even UK Express in that amount of time. And from what I've read it is rare for an order to get here that fast.
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@dingo: Firstly the minimum time for delivery to Australia is not 10 days. I've had orders arrive in as little as 4 days to New Zealand and Australia. Secondly there is no greater chance of seizure than if you were ordering from any other vendor. Most of my orders arrive quickly. It's always this handful of orders that take a little long and go into resolution. This can happen as we saw with Knomo. Orders from the Netherlands that were posted along with his took about 5 days to arrive but his ended up taking 5 weeks to arrive.
You shouldn't speak of things you know nothing about and discouraging people from buying from me. Seriously focus on your own business.
Thanks
CC
Ive had orders from CC arrive to Southern Hemisphere after 5 business days.
Shipped friday, up my nostril the following friday..
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@dingo: Firstly the minimum time for delivery to Australia is not 10 days. I've had orders arrive in as little as 4 days to New Zealand and Australia. Secondly there is no greater chance of seizure than if you were ordering from any other vendor. Most of my orders arrive quickly. It's always this handful of orders that take a little long and go into resolution. This can happen as we saw with Knomo. Orders from the Netherlands that were posted along with his took about 5 days to arrive but his ended up taking 5 weeks to arrive.
You shouldn't speak of things you know nothing about and discouraging people from buying from me. Seriously focus on your own business.
Thanks
CC
Ive had orders from CC arrive to Southern Hemisphere after 5 business days.
Shipped friday, up my nostril the following friday..
5 days! Is it sent by express? I might have to try and order from him.
I didn't mean to criticize CapeCrusader earlier. But usually anything that is coming from another continent will be quicker than EU - EU mail.
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@dingo: Firstly the minimum time for delivery to Australia is not 10 days. I've had orders arrive in as little as 4 days to New Zealand and Australia. Secondly there is no greater chance of seizure than if you were ordering from any other vendor. Most of my orders arrive quickly. It's always this handful of orders that take a little long and go into resolution. This can happen as we saw with Knomo. Orders from the Netherlands that were posted along with his took about 5 days to arrive but his ended up taking 5 weeks to arrive.
You shouldn't speak of things you know nothing about and discouraging people from buying from me. Seriously focus on your own business.
Thanks
CC
Ive had orders from CC arrive to Southern Hemisphere after 5 business days.
Shipped friday, up my nostril the following friday..
5 days! Is it sent by express? I might have to try and order from him.
I didn't mean to criticize CapeCrusader earlier. But usually anything that is coming from another continent will be quicker than EU - EU mail.
Sent regular post, single stamp by memory. On 2 separate occasions its taken 5 business days.
Product was SUPERIOR as always.
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After having used methamhetamine instead of amphetamine for about a week of intense academic work, I'm now convinced that as a productive stimulant meth only disadvantages compared to it's non-methylated cousin.
Things noticed:
- On meth, I feel like I'm not quite myself. Being on non-meth amphetamine doesn't affect my personality very much.
- In many situations meth makes me act (and feel) much more nervous than regular amphetamine. Almost paranoid.
- Meth lasts for too long to use effectively during an entire work day, without resorting to night-time sedatives.
- During the comedown I feel retarded (for lack of a better word) in a way I'm not used to from other amphetamine comedowns.
Btw, this is with a decent amount of sleep (at least 5-6hrs) every night and three meals a day.
However, the euphoric effect of methamphetamine is clearly superior to that of vanilla amphetamine. Using good old dextro-levo for Real Work and only doing methamphetamine when partying seems like the right thing to do.
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I got an order from CC last month to central US in 7 days, (5 business days) as well--I was amazed. No express, just regular mail.
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Hi all,
I need your help folks.... please!
I ordered from CC 17 days ago, but the package hasn't showed up until now :(
I'm located in Germany. I'm loosing more and more faith that it will arrive. Anyone experienced such a long delivery time especially to Germany?
It's normal for something from Africa to another continent to take that long.
You're lucky you live in Europe. it takes minimum 10 days for anything to arrive to Australia.
if I was you, I'd just order from BoyMaster. it's from Spain so it'll be fast postage and it shouldn't get seized.
I have received stuff from all over the world. Whenever it goes through US customs (I'm sure EU is the same or worse), it is an unpredictable time table. No matter the originating country. CC is the vendor you want to work with. I have worked with him in the past with a missing half order. Both packages sent, one received very quickly and the other was well over a month. Sent to different receiving addresses. Both were sent on the same day.
What make CC the best is through the whole thing he was very patient and helpful. With an agreed amount he reshipped very quickly. It is a good lesson what happens when you work with honest dependable people. I have 50% more pep than I need and he has 50% more bank.......everyone wins. Plus, he has a customer for however long he decides to provide me with the best pep around.
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Hi all,
I need your help folks.... please!
I ordered from CC 17 days ago, but the package hasn't showed up until now :(
I'm located in Germany. I'm loosing more and more faith that it will arrive. Anyone experienced such a long delivery time especially to Germany?
Though roqii may be a legit new buyer on here. He hasn't been back since this post.
Not more than 3 posts after this the Vendor himself came on the forum and had something to say. Though directed at a post comment that irked him, he gave roqii a "clue" - Knomo - Right there, roqii, you should be searching Knomo, to see what he's talking about.
Really what this boils down to is - KNOW THE THREAD - those who know me know I rarely go all caps even for the fun of it.
In other words. Research! Look back a few Goddam pages! Is that so hard???
Sorry, but it seems a lot of fuss over nothing. This roqii may very well be a legit new buyer, but he hasn't been on since the day of making that post! (His 52nd post) - So before the pontificating, and sticking up for one of our praised vendors happens. Let's first direct these noobs to do a little research, and realize the world does not revolve around them! - The mere fact that we haven't heard back from them in two days is suspect.
I praise all of those who were kind enough to explain. I've done it myself. You see someone new, who doesn't quite "get it" the way us more seasoned veterans do, and the natural 'good' urge is to help.
Give a hungry man a fish and he will eat that day. SHOW a man how to fish, and he will eat for a lifetime!
I was going to link to when Knomo got his long lost parcel, but that still would be cheating.
If you're still there roqii, the best favor I can do for you is to tell you to go back in this thread to early April 2013, and see what long time member Knomo (a regular when I was a noob) was dealing with, as far as "late orders"
If roqii is gone, that's ok. This serves as a reminder, that if we try 'just a little', we can stick together pretty well. Imagine if we really put our hearts and minds into this thing?!?!
To go back into ancient history, here's page 325 from April 26th.(less than 2 weeks ago) Really you should be made to go back to April 1st, but we're not mean folk here.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.4860
Read and LEARN!
Chip Douglas
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damn the new BM batch stinks! feel like i could get high off the fumes :)
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damn the new BM batch stinks! feel like i could get high off the fumes :)
That's surprising to hear. I tried it just last Thursday and it was definitely the new batch, and was the least "scented" speed I've ever tried on the road, going back a year!
I wonder if there are different 'levels' of the batch, or it's just your level of experience. Not judging you, of course. I just think the only way one could think it it had 'fumes' would be someone who hasn't tried many others, OR, not every shipment is the same batch. Maybe all are the "new mix", but he might make batches after batches, and in between, there's some particulate left over. Either that or you're in a faster transit zone, and it's "hot off the presses" Either way it's something I'll keep note of with a pending order of my own. Thanks for sharing that. ;)
Just as an example, I found a "stashed away for a rainy day" batch from a Holland seller, (possibly HO?) and even if I leave it out in the air for a day, there's that distinct aroma of a 'varnish-paint thinner' fragrance, though not caustic as that description sounds. I found barely a trace of scent in the new BM batch that I tried while vacationing at a friends beach home, who is a fellow SR'er. May have been the "salt air" 8)
My own order should arrive by Saturday. I'll definitely give a full review, as the one I tried wasn't my order, and my friend has already given a review.
How long have you been using, and how long on the road, johnnyboy91? (ballpark figure, not looking to break security protocol here ;)) - Just helps to validate your claim. - Like "as compared to" What??
Later
jagfug
PS. Where's Sham?
In other "gone but not forgotten news" Where's -6DEE3CADA- ?? - Remember he started that great Amph/Coke test results page on Tor? Says "Last seen April 10th" , although his last posting is from March 19th. When I try the link for the Speed/Coke test results,
http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion/
I just get - "Problem Loading Page" atm. - Makes you wonder . . .
Was very knowledgeable on this topic, and only too happy to share some of that wealth of knowledge.
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I got 2g from BM about 2 weeks ago. Not sure if it's the older batch or the new one, because I ordered it the day before he took down his listings. Either way, it's a hell of a lot stronger than the speed I was buying from my local dealer.
I've just been taking a pinch of it and dosing orally every other morning. I have yet to use it to get high, mostly because I'm scared of overdoing it. I know the obvious thing is to get a scale, but I was wondering if anybody has advice on eyeballing increments of 25mg?
I don't feel like doing anything with water or taking time to evenly divide it up either.
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I got 2g from BM about 2 weeks ago. Not sure if it's the older batch or the new one, because I ordered it the day before he took down his listings. Either way, it's a hell of a lot stronger than the speed I was buying from my local dealer.
I've just been taking a pinch of it and dosing orally every other morning. I have yet to use it to get high, mostly because I'm scared of overdoing it. I know the obvious thing is to get a scale, but I was wondering if anybody has advice on eyeballing increments of 25mg?
I don't feel like doing anything with water or taking time to evenly divide it up either.
Just take a small amount and if that isn't enough, take a bit more, etc. That's about the best advice I can give you. It's better to not have enough and then have more than to have too much.
Having too much speed would be very unpleasant. or alternatively, buy a scale. They are only $5 for a cheap one.
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Overdose with CC or BM won't just change much..your will feel anyway up and high as you already are..but then enjoy the next 48h insomnia and the bad come down ;) Anyway, if you stay under 3 lines (considering 15-20mg /line) it's still ok..I mean, you are not going to risk anything ;)
25mm x 2mm line should be roughly 15-20mg if you don't find a scale *grins*
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When eyeballing, I always use the "toothpick" gauge. Take out 2 toothpick size lines. Both length 'and' width.
I then cut each line in half, leaving 4 lines.
One up each nostril, to start my day. Get ready, shower, eat, etc. Do the last 2 before I go out the door.
I always keep a small (approx 50mg) amount in a small hole I drilled in the heel of my boot. Very James Bond ;)
That happened one night when I had too much pep, and was playing with my friends Dremel tools on his workbench. :o
Got in touch with my creative side ;)
I always split grams into 1/4's, and store away. This way even when eyeballing, I can say "OK, well half of this is approx 125mg" - and so on.
Happy Speeding! :)
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After having used methamhetamine instead of amphetamine for about a week of intense academic work, I'm now convinced that as a productive stimulant meth only disadvantages compared to it's non-methylated cousin.
Things noticed:
- On meth, I feel like I'm not quite myself. Being on non-meth amphetamine doesn't affect my personality very much.
- In many situations meth makes me act (and feel) much more nervous than regular amphetamine. Almost paranoid.
- Meth lasts for too long to use effectively during an entire work day, without resorting to night-time sedatives.
- During the comedown I feel retarded (for lack of a better word) in a way I'm not used to from other amphetamine comedowns.
Btw, this is with a decent amount of sleep (at least 5-6hrs) every night and three meals a day.
However, the euphoric effect of methamphetamine is clearly superior to that of vanilla amphetamine. Using good old dextro-levo for Real Work and only doing methamphetamine when partying seems like the right thing to do.
I always feel more edgy on meth, kinda like I'm always looking over my shoulder. Don't get this on straight amp.
Also very horny while on meth and it usually ends with a trip to the hookers. You gotta respect those hard working ladies, they've been saving marriages for years..
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damn the new BM batch stinks! feel like i could get high off the fumes :)
That's surprising to hear. I tried it just last Thursday and it was definitely the new batch, and was the least "scented" speed I've ever tried on the road, going back a year!
I wonder if there are different 'levels' of the batch, or it's just your level of experience. Not judging you, of course. I just think the only way one could think it it had 'fumes' would be someone who hasn't tried many others, OR, not every shipment is the same batch. Maybe all are the "new mix", but he might make batches after batches, and in between, there's some particulate left over. Either that or you're in a faster transit zone, and it's "hot off the presses" Either way it's something I'll keep note of with a pending order of my own. Thanks for sharing that. ;)
Just as an example, I found a "stashed away for a rainy day" batch from a Holland seller, (possibly HO?) and even if I leave it out in the air for a day, there's that distinct aroma of a 'varnish-paint thinner' fragrance, though not caustic as that description sounds. I found barely a trace of scent in the new BM batch that I tried while vacationing at a friends beach home, who is a fellow SR'er. May have been the "salt air" 8)
My own order should arrive by Saturday. I'll definitely give a full review, as the one I tried wasn't my order, and my friend has already given a review.
How long have you been using, and how long on the road, johnnyboy91? (ballpark figure, not looking to break security protocol here ;)) - Just helps to validate your claim. - Like "as compared to" What??
Later
jagfug
PS. Where's Sham?
In other "gone but not forgotten news" Where's -6DEE3CADA- ?? - Remember he started that great Amph/Coke test results page on Tor? Says "Last seen April 10th" , although his last posting is from March 19th. When I try the link for the Speed/Coke test results,
http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion/
I just get - "Problem Loading Page" atm. - Makes you wonder . . .
Was very knowledgeable on this topic, and only too happy to share some of that wealth of knowledge.
The speed i received from BM a little over a week ago, the new white batch, didn't have as strong smell as the old yellow batch in my opinion. I haven't tested it yet, so i don't if it's as potent as the yellow stuff. The yellow stuff was some of the best speed, i ever tried.
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damn the new BM batch stinks! feel like i could get high off the fumes :)
That's surprising to hear. I tried it just last Thursday and it was definitely the new batch, and was the least "scented" speed I've ever tried on the road, going back a year!
I wonder if there are different 'levels' of the batch, or it's just your level of experience. Not judging you, of course. I just think the only way one could think it it had 'fumes' would be someone who hasn't tried many others, OR, not every shipment is the same batch. Maybe all are the "new mix", but he might make batches after batches, and in between, there's some particulate left over. Either that or you're in a faster transit zone, and it's "hot off the presses" Either way it's something I'll keep note of with a pending order of my own. Thanks for sharing that. ;)
How long have you been using, and how long on the road, johnnyboy91? (ballpark figure, not looking to break security protocol here ;)) - Just helps to validate your claim. - Like "as compared to" What??
Between BM last yellow waxy batch, CC new stuff and this new BM batch i recieved, this new BM batch absolutely reeked. still seemed a bit of waxy residue on the packet but looked very white/cream colour. Sure its still great i've yet to try though :)
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How is mrimporters speed in the US?
Just want to try some out to take with some molly for raves. So quality doesn't have to be outstanding and trying to keep it domestic for simple smaller orders.
Thanks
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How is mrimporters speed in the US?
Just want to try some out to take with some molly for raves. So quality doesn't have to be outstanding and trying to keep it domestic for simple smaller orders.
Thanks
I'm expecting a delivery in the next few days and will be testing mid-week next week. I'll definitely report!
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How is mrimporters speed in the US?
Just want to try some out to take with some molly for raves. So quality doesn't have to be outstanding and trying to keep it domestic for simple smaller orders.
Thanks
I'm expecting a delivery in the next few days and will be testing mid-week next week. I'll definitely report!
Cool please do, thanks!
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I hate to go all "DAD" on you, but you only have to read back a few pages to find my overwhelming approval of MrImporter. I was worried at first because we really haven't had a good US vendor of Amph in my short time (1year) on here.
Also, just go up to the search box and type MrImporter, I think it's two words, like Mr Importer. I just tried on other screens, but kept getting the "search was less than 5 secs ago" message, even though it's been many minutes.
Well I'll spare you the time (this time ;)) - Mr Importer is surprisingly good. I'm a patriotic American, but lets face it. Good speed comes from Europe! - It's really like Mr Importer is importing this and reselling it here in the US. The difference is, most of the Dutch paste I've gotten has been mediocre. Well when compared to CC+BM, it's pretty hard to come close. - Mr Importer actually comes in 3rd as far as good speed experiences in the past 4 or 5 months.
So by all means give him a go. Expect soaking wet paste, that's what you're buying. And the weight may be under after drying, but it will be pretty decent speed compared to all the garbage I've put up my nose in the past year. - I know he's been working on the wet/vs/dry coming out a little more even, but at his good prices, combined with domestic shipping, I wouldn't let 100-200 mgs get me down. Last few orders I've had were surprisingly good.
If you have the money, also order from BM or CC. They're usually not more than a week to two weeks at most. (lately averaging 7 days, esp BM) - The trick there is, you get MI's stuff in a few days, and by the time you're running out, or out completely, along comes this super power speed, like you've never had.
OK, I'll 'curb my enthusiasm here' ;D - Watch your dosing ! - You can always do a little more. It's a lot harder to 'undo' too high a dose.
Be safe-be happy.
jagfug
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oops double quote lol
FYI-You can go to the above post and click "remove" in the upper right corner. Then go to the post you double quoted and click "Modify", and once it loads, just delete the double posting to fix it. Just leave the part before and after the quote that has brackets, ie; [/quote]
Good luck!
jagfug 8)
PS- you can hit "Preview" and wait a minute to preview your post. Helps to see how it's all laid out, and gives you the opportunity to correct mistakes on the original response.
Food for thought
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I have received every package I have ordered from CC. One took about 6 weeks from post marked date. Most to the US are around two weeks.
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Are you saying you had a non delivered package to the USA from CC? im still waitin on mine shipped Apr 11 all these people vouching for him make me feel better but man this is an insane amount of time.
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Great info Caffeine_me, as usual.
I was late to the CC party, (Jan 2013), but better late than never, and all have arrived as ordered. Some surprisingly fast. That's to the US.
If you're in another country, or seeking info on a late order from another vendor, like a few have from BM, you should do some 'googling' on mail delays.
The internet has a wealth of information, that you'll never get from the main stream media which is controlled by the elites.
For instance, I copied this from another vendor's page - who ships from Spain.
"05-05-2013 - Spanish mail office was closed from 1-05-2013 to 5-05-2013" for Americans, that's May 1st to May 5th. - Apparently we drive on the wrong side of the street, and write the date backwards. ;D - ( a little friendly international humor there)
But seriously, May 1st was "Workers Day", and usually when the Holiday falls on a Wed or Thurs, they carry it through the weekend, so expect some delays.
(much the same way the US takes Thanksgiving Day on Thursday, and makes it a 4 day weekend)
Most of this was found on the following site. I'm bookmarking it for future reference.
http://www.interlinkexpress.com/content/product-services/international_update.jsp
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I hate to go all "DAD" on you, but you only have to read back a few pages to find my overwhelming approval of MrImporter. I was worried at first because we really haven't had a good US vendor of Amph in my short time (1year) on here.
Also, just go up to the search box and type MrImporter, I think it's two words, like Mr Importer. I just tried on other screens, but kept getting the "search was less than 5 secs ago" message, even though it's been many minutes.
Well I'll spare you the time (this time ;)) - Mr Importer is surprisingly good. I'm a patriotic American, but lets face it. Good speed comes from Europe! - It's really like Mr Importer is importing this and reselling it here in the US. The difference is, most of the Dutch paste I've gotten has been mediocre. Well when compared to CC+BM, it's pretty hard to come close. - Mr Importer actually comes in 3rd as far as good speed experiences in the past 4 or 5 months.
So by all means give him a go. Expect soaking wet paste, that's what you're buying. And the weight may be under after drying, but it will be pretty decent speed compared to all the garbage I've put up my nose in the past year. - I know he's been working on the wet/vs/dry coming out a little more even, but at his good prices, combined with domestic shipping, I wouldn't let 100-200 mgs get me down. Last few orders I've had were surprisingly good.
If you have the money, also order from BM or CC. They're usually not more than a week to two weeks at most. (lately averaging 7 days, esp BM) - The trick there is, you get MI's stuff in a few days, and by the time you're running out, or out completely, along comes this super power speed, like you've never had.
OK, I'll 'curb my enthusiasm here' ;D - Watch your dosing ! - You can always do a little more. It's a lot harder to 'undo' too high a dose.
Be safe-be happy.
jagfug
Yup actually searched around but saw his review threads weren't that great. Totally missed the other result for this thread though.
Thanks for the reply!
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Hey y'all!
I had ordered from CC way back when he/she/it had the 2g previews of the new batch. A believe it was a little after a month when we decided to go for a reship. CC was communicative during the whole process. The reship came in 2 weeks to North America. Who knows perhaps one day in the future I will receive a long lost surprise in the mail.
The speed is great. I am no expert, able to give a detailed review, but it gets the job done and I really don't use much. I take anywhere between 10mg to 20mg and I'm good to go all day and into the night. Social interactions and productivity benefit.
I will definitely continue to purchase from CC. He/she/it is all I could ask for from a vendor
ps. Y'all are awesome, thanks for keeping this thread informative and fun!
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BM arrived today!
I would say that the new dimension is stronger and cleaner than the previous yellow, waxy batch.
It's pure white and slightly waxy but nothing a dry wont fix. I've snorted 2 lines not even the size of matchsticks and I'm flying! Euphoria, can't stop talking, can't sit down and no body load whatsoever.. BM wasn't lying when he said that this is the new dimension.
Cheers BM! This is awesome 8)
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just did a review on MythylonDE's speed, can recommend
review:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=30896.msg1111568#msg1111568
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Been awake for 2 nights and days on BM's new batch.
Really strong and clean. Sleep is merely a dot on the horizon at this stage.
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My review on Boymaster's latest batch.
1st of all, the shipping was amazing. Remember a week ago Saturday? We were all wondering "When will the DDoS attack be fixed?" - Then SR came back Saturday night? (well depending on where you are- around 12:00am UTC May 5th Sunday)- Anyways I got it Saturday morning just outside NY City. I ordered from 2 US Vendors at the same time, and they still haven't gotten here. (I expected those 1st!!)
Quality-Same high potency, with much improved texture. Arrived damp, slight scent of processing. Took out 50mgs-breaking in my new sensitive scale, that's good to the microgram. Was dry withing minutes, as I weighed the rest of a 5gram order, which was .50 over damp, I can't imagine it losing that much, but it's close enough. - Snorted two 15mg lines. Felt like myself again. ;D . Finished the other 20mgs after a nice drip with my head tilted back on the pillow.
Stealth - Excellent in my opinion. Changed it up a little, and that's smart! - Almost didn't see it amongst the Direct TV bill, and junk mail.
All in all, very happy customer. Glad I finally decided to participate on forums. Having nowhere else to go during the attack, I started to become more comfortable sharing on here. I've had a few unpleasant run-ins with a few(on other threads), but I grew up in NYC, I'm used to more fuckin weirdos than most of you will ever meet!
I'm still self conscious, and the speed only makes it worse! Ha Ha!. I've 'previewed' and edited this post for the past hour. Some on here know me, mostly from PM's from back when I didn't want to post. - Thanks to those who 'pushed me' into posting on forums.
What's weird is a lot of the 'regulars' I used to enjoy reading on this thread, have been noticeably absent.
Anyone know what happened to the 'speed testing' site?- The one who started it disappeared too! Maybe he was "too helpful". I could just see the people at this testing place, going "93% ??" - I don't trust any government saying they're interested in 'harm reduction'. Seems like they just have a hand in the black market, and once they see competition? They send out the goon squad. - I hope that's not the case, and it's just the amph talkin.
It probably is - sorry.
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Been awake for 2 nights and days on BM's new batch.
Really strong and clean. Sleep is merely a dot on the horizon at this stage.
Sounds like it's working! Can't wait to stick my nose in it and try :D
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Been awake for 2 nights and days on BM's new batch.
Really strong and clean. Sleep is merely a dot on the horizon at this stage.
Sounds like it's working! Can't wait to stick my nose in it and try :D
Oh yeah! Me too! Only did 50 mgs total today, and I'm on my 2nd dose of 2 5mg Valiums to chill my heart rate down., Stuff creeps up on you, so let this be a warning to you, If you have 0 tolerance and aren't on any SSRI's or MDxx's RC crap, you'll zoom to the moon, - If you do have a tolerance, and don't get that initial rush,. Be patient. You want it to last anyways, right? - It's 3:30am NYC time, and I've been up since 9am Saturday. I'm just now feeling sleepy. Oh yeah,
I took a Clonidine. Helps a lot with tachycardia (heart palpitation feeling). - That and a few tall beers. - Gonna take a walk outside, ad stretch the legs before coming in to crash.
"Jackie is just speeding away. Thought she was James Dean for a day. Then I guess she had to crash, Valium would've helped that bash" - Dedicated to "Jackie Curtis" -from - "Walk on the Wild Side" which was about the 'superstars' Lou Reed knew from Andy Warhol's studio "The Factory"
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Good to see King Muslix back 8)
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Glad to hear you will be updating your stealth BM. I'll give it another go if you return with MBB's.
My order to Australia never arrived. BM refunded 100%
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Im going crazy im giving away 500grams FREE SPEED!!!!!!!
All you need to do is go to my profile: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/0959809f11
and click the link of FREE SPEED
All i ask is to leave a 5/5 feedback and fe
want to know more just read the listing
regards,mercury31
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@BM if it will be like the customer service I got today then you become the King
I got clear answers and a pleasure to talk to you :)
It was unfortunately not the experience for me just over a month, but if this will be like today then you certainly Become the King of speed
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Hello buddies,
I'm sorry to tell you that the stock of the actual batch is running out and there will be a scarcity period of a few weeks.
Globally speaking this is not bad at all as we are going to use this period to improve some things.
We will be back at the end of the first half of June or so with a renovated stealth, product quality and customer service.
Kind regards
BM
Glad I stocked up for the drought......fuck, maybe I didn't get enough. Review of my boat once sampled ;)
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I am going to buy some speed sulfate from BoyMaster but am a bit confused as what is speed sulfate? From what I gathered on web, speed sulfate and speed paste are the same thing, just that sulfate is dry am I correct? So what I will get from BoyMaster is dry speed, that needs no baking and thus I will experience no weight loss?
And how much do you think I should mix the stuff before it is ready to hit the streets, I was thinking of making 5g from 1g (so it would be about 25% purity which is pretty high I think, ofcourse depends on your sources).
Hope to get info soon, so I can still catch some of the last batch from BoyMaster before going out.
greetings,
danjohnken
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I am going to buy some speed sulfate from BoyMaster but am a bit confused as what is speed sulfate? From what I gathered on web, speed sulfate and speed paste are the same thing, just that sulfate is dry am I correct? So what I will get from BoyMaster is dry speed, that needs no baking and thus I will experience no weight loss?
And how much do you think I should mix the stuff before it is ready to hit the streets, I was thinking of making 5g from 1g (so it would be about 25% purity which is pretty high I think, ofcourse depends on your sources).
Hope to get info soon, so I can still catch some of the last batch from BoyMaster before going out.
greetings,
danjohnken
It is very high quality speed. The sulfate just means it isn't amphetamine base, which can be smoked. BM's amphetamine can't be smoked unless converted to a base. IMO smoking speed isn't worth it anyway.
For European street speed, it is extremely strong. It could be cut 6:1 and be good speed. In Australia, speed is high purity, but expensive.
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I am going to buy some speed sulfate from BoyMaster but am a bit confused as what is speed sulfate? From what I gathered on web, speed sulfate and speed paste are the same thing, just that sulfate is dry am I correct? So what I will get from BoyMaster is dry speed, that needs no baking and thus I will experience no weight loss?
And how much do you think I should mix the stuff before it is ready to hit the streets, I was thinking of making 5g from 1g (so it would be about 25% purity which is pretty high I think, ofcourse depends on your sources).
Hope to get info soon, so I can still catch some of the last batch from BoyMaster before going out.
greetings,
danjohnken
It is very high quality speed. The sulfate just means it isn't amphetamine base, which can be smoked. BM's amphetamine can't be smoked unless converted to a base. IMO smoking speed isn't worth it anyway.
For European street speed, it is extremely strong. It could be cut 6:1 and be good speed. In Australia, speed is high purity, but expensive.
Great, thanks for info. What about moisture - I have read through his feedback and this speed isn't totally dry, one user reported losing 30% of weight. This is quite a lot IMO, if one line is about 50mg. I mean its still good ofcourse, but considering the price...
How much does his product usually lose weight?
thanks
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I am going to buy some speed sulfate from BoyMaster but am a bit confused as what is speed sulfate? From what I gathered on web, speed sulfate and speed paste are the same thing, just that sulfate is dry am I correct? So what I will get from BoyMaster is dry speed, that needs no baking and thus I will experience no weight loss?
And how much do you think I should mix the stuff before it is ready to hit the streets, I was thinking of making 5g from 1g (so it would be about 25% purity which is pretty high I think, ofcourse depends on your sources).
Hope to get info soon, so I can still catch some of the last batch from BoyMaster before going out.
greetings,
danjohnken
It is very high quality speed. The sulfate just means it isn't amphetamine base, which can be smoked. BM's amphetamine can't be smoked unless converted to a base. IMO smoking speed isn't worth it anyway.
For European street speed, it is extremely strong. It could be cut 6:1 and be good speed. In Australia, speed is high purity, but expensive.
Great, thanks for info. What about moisture - I have read through his feedback and this speed isn't totally dry, one user reported losing 30% of weight. This is quite a lot IMO, if one line is about 50mg. I mean its still good ofcourse, but considering the price...
How much does his product usually lose weight?
thanks
Well each batch would vary, but I doubt it would be 30% loss of weight. I'd say perhaps 10%, but the latest batch is apparently already pretty much dry.
If you have never used speed before, I'd start with 20-30mg for a starting dose. Remember, if you don't take enough, you can always take more.
But if you take too much, you can't go back in time.
If you are a regular speed user, start with 50mg and go from there. It is very strong stuff. Do not eat half a gram or some ridiculous amount because you do that with street speed. Just warning you. Having too much speed is very unpleasant and takes hours and hours to come back down to normal.
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heyo guys,
received my small sample of BM, snow white this time. no opportunity to test yet but will do so soon.
anyone got some BTC left over for me? see sig, thx.
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Got BM's this morning: bright white, and almost dry on opening. Very clean and potent. I agree on not going over 50mg unless you're sure about your tolerance.
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I am going to buy some speed sulfate from BoyMaster but am a bit confused as what is speed sulfate? From what I gathered on web, speed sulfate and speed paste are the same thing, just that sulfate is dry am I correct? So what I will get from BoyMaster is dry speed, that needs no baking and thus I will experience no weight loss?
And how much do you think I should mix the stuff before it is ready to hit the streets, I was thinking of making 5g from 1g (so it would be about 25% purity which is pretty high I think, ofcourse depends on your sources).
Hope to get info soon, so I can still catch some of the last batch from BoyMaster before going out.
greetings,
danjohnken
It is very high quality speed. The sulfate just means it isn't amphetamine base, which can be smoked. BM's amphetamine can't be smoked unless converted to a base. IMO smoking speed isn't worth it anyway.
For European street speed, it is extremely strong. It could be cut 6:1 and be good speed. In Australia, speed is high purity, but expensive.
Great, thanks for info. What about moisture - I have read through his feedback and this speed isn't totally dry, one user reported losing 30% of weight. This is quite a lot IMO, if one line is about 50mg. I mean its still good ofcourse, but considering the price...
How much does his product usually lose weight?
thanks
As far as I'm aware, BM's listing is advertised as Amphetamine Sulfate, not "Speed Sulfate." His product has been lab tested previously(use the search engine.) From this you should be able to figure out how much to cut it depending on what purity you want to end up with.
For what its worth, whilst I don't agree with cutting drugs personally, I realise that selling a pure product can be dangerous to people who are used to substantially lower purities.
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Got BM's this morning: bright white, and almost dry on opening. Very clean and potent. I agree on not going over 50mg unless you're sure about your tolerance.
I agree. Did some testing, clean effects, not much of a bodyload for me, snow white rocket fuel.
I'll provide lab analysis asap. But I think this one will be up in the 90ies.
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I just IV'ed 50mg and ready for more. BM has definitely got it down this time, my favorite speed on the road. So clean with such less body-load it is just amazing. I feel like I can sleep right now even (although that may be the xanax talking).
Oh yeah, this time it nearly instantly all dissolved -- a first for any speed I have tried (this is usually a very good sign).
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As far as I'm aware, BM's listing is advertised as Amphetamine Sulfate, not "Speed Sulfate." His product has been lab tested previously(use the search engine.) From this you should be able to figure out how much to cut it depending on what purity you want to end up with.
For what its worth, whilst I don't agree with cutting drugs personally, I realise that selling a pure product can be dangerous to people who are used to substantially lower purities.
not a fan with cutting too, but with what would you cut speed?
am familiar with various coke cuts but never sold speed so far.. just wondering
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As far as I'm aware, BM's listing is advertised as Amphetamine Sulfate, not "Speed Sulfate." His product has been lab tested previously(use the search engine.) From this you should be able to figure out how much to cut it depending on what purity you want to end up with.
For what its worth, whilst I don't agree with cutting drugs personally, I realise that selling a pure product can be dangerous to people who are used to substantially lower purities.
not a fan with cutting too, but with what would you cut speed?
am familiar with various coke cuts but never sold speed so far.. just wondering
I personally wouldn't cut it with anything. It's shitty street dealers like that, that are the reason we're here.
If I were to sell any, I'd give a small dose sample, so they knew the potency, and then sell them some. You can always charge more for it than you bought it for. Cutting it with shit, is just greedy and dishonest.
So just for the record, I've compiled a list of all 'contaminants' found in street speed over the years, in both the US and UK.
Mannitol
Corn Starch
Flour
Inositol
Sucrose
Lactulose
Talcum Powder
Plaster
Baking Soda
Salt
Quinine
Caffeine
Guarana
Strychnine
Colchicine
Acetaminophen (Tylenol)
Lidocaine
Benzocaine
Meaverine
Mepivacaine
Articaine
Prilocaine
Ropivacaine
Tetracaine
Quinine
Well that's not all, but mmmmmmm!!! Sure does sound tasty don't it? ::)
Anyone who adds any of this shit is a scum bag, and where I come from, they'd have to move to another neighborhood if we found out!
(that is, after they got out of the hospital) ;)
Karma's a bitch.
Best not to be a scumbag. ;)
A little advice from your Uncle Chip.
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thx for the response, had some lols (salt) ;D
regarding the -caines i think it would be pretty stupid to sell numbing amphetamine..
but then again they probably sold it as coke...
personally i'm ok with consuming cuts like caffeine or guarana to a certain %
since it isnt very toxic and may goes well with the amphy effect
cheers minchia
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Yeah, you got a point. Even mannitol and even inositol are pretty benign. In fact, mannitol not only helps drugs cross the blood brain barrier, it also acts as a minor vasodilator and helps with renal failure (where it helps excrete urine from the kidneys). - Might help that whole (can't piss thing) that happens with too much speed sometimes.
People refer to it as 'baby laxative', but for it to give an adult laxative effects, you'd have to take more than a gram.
I just read about this. - I don't know this shit, and I'm freaking tired! -CRASH!!!!!!
Catch you guys tonight. Suns coming up. Time to get back in my coffin! 8)
The Chipster
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Yeah, you got a point. Even mannitol and even inositol are pretty benign. In fact, mannitol not only helps drugs cross the blood brain barrier, it also acts as a minor vasodilator and helps with renal failure (where it helps excrete urine from the kidneys). - Might help that whole (can't piss thing) that happens with too much speed sometimes.
People refer to it as 'baby laxative', but for it to give an adult laxative effects, you'd have to take more than a gram.
I just read about this. - I don't know this shit, and I'm freaking tired! -CRASH!!!!!!
Catch you guys tonight. Suns coming up. Time to get back in my coffin! 8)
The Chipster
This is why I love this thread- it's always so informative.
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Hi
It is very high quality speed. The sulfate just means it isn't amphetamine base, which can be smoked. BM's amphetamine can't be smoked unless converted to a base. IMO smoking speed isn't worth it anyway.
For European street speed, it is extremely strong. It could be cut 6:1 and be good speed. In Australia, speed is high purity, but expensive.
So this is pure dextro ampethamine, right or might it be racemic-amphetamine sulfate?
By the way, could anyone tell me the difference between sulfate and saccharate?
Different "stereoisomers" but same effect? Sulfate is more easy to synthetise maybe?
Thanks :)
Safe trip tp everyone :)
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asdasd
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I am going to buy some speed sulfate from BoyMaster but am a bit confused as what is speed sulfate? From what I gathered on web, speed sulfate and speed paste are the same thing, just that sulfate is dry am I correct? So what I will get from BoyMaster is dry speed, that needs no baking and thus I will experience no weight loss?
And how much do you think I should mix the stuff before it is ready to hit the streets, I was thinking of making 5g from 1g (so it would be about 25% purity which is pretty high I think, ofcourse depends on your sources).
Hope to get info soon, so I can still catch some of the last batch from BoyMaster before going out.
greetings,
danjohnken
It is very high quality speed. The sulfate just means it isn't amphetamine base, which can be smoked. BM's amphetamine can't be smoked unless converted to a base. IMO smoking speed isn't worth it anyway.
For European street speed, it is extremely strong. It could be cut 6:1 and be good speed. In Australia, speed is high purity, but expensive.
Great, thanks for info. What about moisture - I have read through his feedback and this speed isn't totally dry, one user reported losing 30% of weight. This is quite a lot IMO, if one line is about 50mg. I mean its still good ofcourse, but considering the price...
How much does his product usually lose weight?
thanks
sulfate just tells you the form of salt, so its sulphate salt and not hydrochloride salt. the problem with "amphetamine base" is that nobody can tell you what it means. there are many different meanings for base: maybe not all of the amphetamine freebase (oil) reacted with the acid while converting it to salt/// maybe it's just amphetamine sulphate(or HCl salt) that absorbed water from the air (both salt forms are hygroscopic)/// but in most cases base is (cutted) amphetamine sulphate with some liquid added to make more profit, and there's still the myth that base/paste is some extra strong and fresh type of amphetamine/// sometimes base is only short for freebase
if your speed is wet you can be sure theres something added to make it heavier, but if its just a bit moist or pasty/waxy that's normal. because amphetamine sulphate is hygroscopic i think it's almost impossible to get completely dried speed because it will always absorb water from the air. if you get some yellowish, waxy, oily powder/substance you maybe got some really pure amphetamine sulphate with some freebase leftovers from synthesis (see above). - i think that clumpy, oily speed was/is the reason for that base(paste) hype going on.. freebase oil evaporates quickly, so if your speed is really wet there is deffo some water or any other liquid added.
could the sulphate also get wet because of bad/wrong synthesis?? i don't think so, but i don't know..
i don't know much about smoking speed, i only know that you could smoke the freebae but thats not very common because its hard to handle.
just my two cents.. correct me if i'm wrong!
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Thanks a lot for your explanation, kybzmsrf & taller :)
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Hello buddies,
I'm sorry to tell you that the stock of the actual batch is running out and there will be a scarcity period of a few weeks.
Globally speaking this is not bad at all as we are going to use this period to improve some things.
We will be back at the end of the first half of June or so with a renovated stealth, product quality and customer service.
Kind regards
BM
Improved stealth will definitely be welcomed. Nothing wrong with the look but the inside could use some work. Thanks for listening to your customers BM!
It's going to be a long month but good things come to those who wait.. Gotta put in another order ASAP!
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Had a no show from BDD.
Bit of an acid drop ordering from NL to my part of the world but worth a shot.
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asdasd
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Actually there's only one meaning of amphetamine base as it means the actual (non-protonated) amphetamine molecule. So pure amphetamine would be what you call amphetamine base.
Yet it's an oily, volatile, really stinky, pretty caustic liquid that you wouldn't have much fun with. Plus it's practically insoluble in water and thus wouldn't be absorbed by your body unless you'd ingest it and it'd react with the hydrochloric acid in your stomach forming the hydrochloride salt.
The sulfate is hardly hygroscopic at all. That's one of the reasons why it's common. Amphetamine HCl can't even be crystallized easily...
yeah chemically there's only one meaning but on the market a lot of speed is sold as base which has nothing to do with real pure freebase (oil) which you are talking about, its not easy to get freebase because its hard to handle and users prefer the salt form anyway, so i think there's no reason for big dealers/chemists to deal with freebase instead of sulfate salt. the word base (or paste) is often used by dealers and consumers for speed that comes wet or clumpy (reason for this see above^^) - just read some posts here and see some listings on sr and you will know what i am talking about - base doesn't always mean pure freebase, mostly it's just used as a synonym for some kind of amphe sulphate..
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The amphetamine gods are kinda shining on me or doing whatever it is they do..
Had a no show from BDD but then CC unexpectedly dropped into my letterbox today exactly a week after BM.
Will update on CC's gear during consumption.
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The amphetamine gods are kinda shining on me or doing whatever it is they do..
Had a no show from BDD but then CC unexpectedly dropped into my letterbox today exactly a week after BM.
Will update on CC's gear during consumption.
Who is BDD?
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The amphetamine gods are kinda shining on me or doing whatever it is they do..
Had a no show from BDD but then CC unexpectedly dropped into my letterbox today exactly a week after BM.
Will update on CC's gear during consumption.
Who is BDD?
Best Dutch Drugs.
First and probably the last order attempt from NL.
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Review for HollandOnline,
Short and to the point because it's just easier to read and it also avoids lots of text with irrelevant info. This might look like suspicious advertising because of the layout or whatever but it's just an overall rating of all my orders till now, so no specific info about an individual order. I have received my 5th order today from this great vendor and I have to say I'm still quite impressed, especially about the constant high quality.
☑ Delivery - Lightning fast and very decent (domestic) shipping costs
☑ Package - Good, you can tell that he takes business seriously
☑ Weight - Usually quite a bit overweight, I presume to compensate for the loss in weight when it's completely dried into powder because you receive it in a somewhat dry white paste form
☑ Prices - Absolutely fine priced speed also for smaller amounts like 2-5g
☑ Quality - Excellent, tested two times as 55-60% pure amphetamine which is about twice as pure as the average Dutch quality give or take. Bottom line for me is that it makes you feel just amazing
I'm a happy and steady customer of HO now and I don't have to worry about shit like quality and delivery times anymore like so often in the past. (domestic shipping rules)
About defining quality, speed from different vendors can give different results in terms of 'feeling good' therefore excellent quality is in my book not per se the specified purity alone. Some people may want to avoid caffeine for intolerance reasons. Personally I really hate it if speed is cut with stuff like paracetamol or similar stuff, glady this speed contains none of that or other (harmful) cutting agents.
Lab test results page: http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion
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The amphetamine gods are kinda shining on me or doing whatever it is they do..
Had a no show from BDD but then CC unexpectedly dropped into my letterbox today exactly a week after BM.
Will update on CC's gear during consumption.
Who is BDD?
Best Dutch Drugs.
First and probably the last order attempt from NL.
Thanks. Yea I agree. Netherlands orders are usually just a write-off unfortunately.
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Hey mates, ye I am still alive. Had a long overdue break of ~6 weeks 8).
Little review on BM's "new" batch:
Packaging: Could be improved, but well it arrived.
Delivery time: 9 days to western Germany.
Weight: ~10% under after drying.
Consistency: Came in as white paste, which dried out completely in no time.
Quality: Excellent, pretty sure this one is 95+% again.
I am satisfied again, having a nice rush with little bodyload after snorting 2x30 mg in the last 8 hours - pulse of 90 bpm. Just wondering why he is sending as paste - to lazy to dry or adding a little solvent for the little extra cash ;)?
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Damn, gotta thank Mercury31 for that free sample--it got to me in FOUR days to the US! Anyone else get theirs yet?
Wow, I had 3 orders placed before his and I've yet to receive any of them, and they're all from UK or Canada...a nice boost to my weekend since I wasn't sure if I'd ever get this since Netherlands is risky, much less this quickly. I was very pleased to see that this was not soaking paste, and is a nice fine powder already, probably will barely lose any weight (weighed 5.12, doubt it will be under 5 after a day of extra drying). Smells like decent stuff, will update tomorrow a.m. after a night of testing :D , but I don't doubt it is truly around 50-60% as stated. (Reminds me of HollandOnline's so far.)
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5/5 Speed
5/5 Packing, Careful getting it out. Don't spill or fling it everywhere.
5/5 customers service, didn't need it.
5/5 Quality product, Seems to be the right weight. Probably the best I have received from him. Brilliant white almost completely dry powder. A little bit of a smell I get with the dutch speed (Very mild though). I haven't used this description for speed before, but it is a creeper. I took an average dose for me with moderate tolerance and about an hour later had an urge to do more. Heeding other poster's comments, I had just a "touch" more. Glad I did. Medium Euphoria, very functional, little tachycardia (Probably took too much), and insomnia (Took to late in afternoon). I tried starting with CC's new batch and then a later dose with BM and that seems to be a excellent approach.
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Hi guys. Just a quick word to let you all know everything is alright. I hope everything is alright with you too! Unfortunately I haven't been able to visit the forum very often. Got caught up with everyday things from live. And to be honest I am not a regular drugs user also, so that reduces the need to check in on a regular basis. I do read private messages every now and then. I am thinking about adding a email address on the labtest listing but I probably won't have much time for that either. I didn't even think about collecting new results, what a shame! If you want to contact me fast, please use the private message. Please be aware that I do not accept payments for dedicated labtests. Not only do I have enough time, but I also do not want to corrode the integrity of the list. Keep up the good work, and be safe!
In the mean time PineappleLove has provided much cocaine results, which you can consult on the following page.
http://braqrsskizlusigz.onion/
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Hey! 6DEE3CADA - ('63 Cadillac?) - Anyway, I wish the speed/amph test site were to keep up. My neighbor is a retired chemist, and tested my BM batch once, he didn't give me any numbers, just said, be careful with that stuff, it's the strongest I've ever seen!. This guy owned his own pharmacy back in the day when you could own your own pharmacy, and there were no "chains".
Still nipping at the last of my 5 gram order from BM. Might be time to put in a new order before he's out!
Hey CC! Are you planning on putting up listings anytime soon?
Otherwise, I'll be looking up some old standbys.
Been camping all weekend, what a wild time! Very chilly nights! Whole body sore from chopping firewood!
Feels good to be home. Oh well, gotta get up and start working soon. Have a good night everyone!
A good Monday to everyone!
Chip
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I didn't really followed this thread anymore after I found out that I totally don't respond to amphetamine anymore. Maybe good for some of you guys though is that it happens I just read the last few posts and because there will be some coke testing next couple of weeks, I might as well drop BM speed at the lab. So his results will be announced on the 30th or 31st of may, yay.
cheers
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are my products also tested on the site?
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Can somebody review the amphetamine from Mercury31?
A 5g sample is on its way to my mailbox, hopefully it arrives
Grtz
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Just today Mercury31's sample arrived to a neighbouring country of him.
Stealth could be a little bit better, because the stuff was centered to a little bulge.
But hey, it was free and went well! Thank you!
It seems pretty dry and it got the typical smell of paste.
I hesitate, if i want to try it this very day, because i have to be sober tomorrow and need sleep.
But here are some pictures:
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/n_1.JPG
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/n_4.JPG
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With BM scheduled to be out of stock, and nothing new till sometime in June, it would be nice to hear from CC. I recall he took a break during the downtime of the DoS attacks, but the road's been buzzing along without a hitch for over 2 weeks. Well there are a few others I have in mind......hmm.......... :-\
May I ask whom do you have in mind? I´m running out of my last order from CC and tried only BM up to now, who´s stuff has been great too. If no one of these two is around, I don´t know which speed to try, should be in a league of CC and BM, if this is possible. So perhaps you can give me an advise :)
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If you have the btc's- BM just took down the 5g listings today, just the 1+2g listings are up. So if they're there, GET THEM!!
That being said, those I've used with very good results, and not as far below par from the greats as you'd think are;
maxhavelaar - has improved each time I've ordered.
HollandOnline - No US sales- I tried back when they did, and was happy with quality-and have heard positive things from others in EU
BestDutchDrugs (all one word I think) - but it's been months, not sure- best check latest FB
Powerade - have been under different MGMT apparently - at one time they were a force to be reckoned with.
MrImporter- US vendor - If you're there, put him at the top of the list. His shit is tied for 3rd with Max
Many of these Speed dealers success rates, and overall cooperativeness depends on what country they're in, and which one you're in.
I know we're all supposed to all be 'past that' in this phony global economy, but lets face it. We're all xenophobes.
Let's see. Hmmm I have seen a few speed dealers that have not been reviewed on here yet. So try typing in "Speed" in the search bar of SR, also try Amphetamine.
But please! Give my mainman maxhavelaar a try. - I just checked his FB and he's doing quite well without us douchebags on forums.
I use "douchebags" as a term of endearment, of course 8)
the Chipster
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Re: MrImporter
I'm expecting a delivery in the next few days and will be testing mid-week next week. I'll definitely report!
Cool please do, thanks!
Forgot to post here as well as his individual review thread:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=154728.msg1144527#msg1144527
I finally got to try it today. (that was Sun 19 May)
Did a bump of about 20mg since it's been so long, this is new stuff and well, random drugs off the internet :)
Nice rush and come up, never became euphoric (not surprised at that dose) but has maintained a nice steady alertness and energy still going.
I had forgotten how smooth speed can be.
Thanks, MrImporter - when you restock, so will I! :D
Dosed at around 11am, felt at cruising altitude until perhaps 5:30-6pm.
I'm a lightweight, but I only had Ritalin and meth to compare it against and it fit the right space since I try to avoid meth for myself and ritalin was too jagged feeling.
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As far as I'm aware, BM's listing is advertised as Amphetamine Sulfate, not "Speed Sulfate." His product has been lab tested previously(use the search engine.) From this you should be able to figure out how much to cut it depending on what purity you want to end up with.
For what its worth, whilst I don't agree with cutting drugs personally, I realise that selling a pure product can be dangerous to people who are used to substantially lower purities.
not a fan with cutting too, but with what would you cut speed?
am familiar with various coke cuts but never sold speed so far.. just wondering
I personally wouldn't cut it with anything. It's shitty street dealers like that, that are the reason we're here.
If I were to sell any, I'd give a small dose sample, so they knew the potency, and then sell them some. You can always charge more for it than you bought it for. Cutting it with shit, is just greedy and dishonest.
So just for the record, I've compiled a list of all 'contaminants' found in street speed over the years, in both the US and UK.
Mannitol
Corn Starch
Flour
Inositol
Sucrose
Lactulose
Talcum Powder
Plaster
Baking Soda
Salt
Quinine
Caffeine
Guarana
Strychnine
Colchicine
Acetaminophen (Tylenol)
Lidocaine
Benzocaine
Meaverine
Mepivacaine
Articaine
Prilocaine
Ropivacaine
Tetracaine
Quinine
Well that's not all, but mmmmmmm!!! Sure does sound tasty don't it? ::)
Anyone who adds any of this shit is a scum bag, and where I come from, they'd have to move to another neighborhood if we found out!
(that is, after they got out of the hospital) ;)
Karma's a bitch.
Best not to be a scumbag. ;)
A little advice from your Uncle Chip.
I wish I could agree but I have sold some of BM old batch and people hated the pure shit, cunts were close to OD'ing on it. I cut it down to 40% pure and they loved it. In theory, pure is always best but some drugs are more dangerous clean than they are cut with a little benign filler. As long as the cuts are not active I don't think it should be a problem. I think the main problem is uneducated drug users just racking up 2 point lines because that's what they're used to even though you tell them to only have 1/4 that, they don't listen.
So, as a small time dealer, I feel it is better harm reduction practice to offer 40% pure product with no active cuts rather than 95% pure. If you start talking about anything that sounds like even half a drug education then you will often end up getting a much purer product because your smart about your usage... Putting pure product out "on the street" is irresponsible imo.
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Balls, I need to get 1/3 of a coin for a BM restock.
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currently waiting for iisthisisi d/l amphetamine the same as I got the one listed long ago as 72% d/l amphetamine which was by the lab results the best and purest on silkroad. It was extremely clean and potent I will update (next week prohbably when it arrives) on this batch ( it still isn't listed though).
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currently waiting for iisthisisi d/l amphetamine the same as I got the one listed long ago as 72% d/l amphetamine which was by the lab results the best and purest on silkroad. It was extremely clean and potent I will update (next week prohbably when it arrives) on this batch ( it still isn't listed though).
What?! Holy crap. Any idea when the listings go up?
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currently waiting for iisthisisi d/l amphetamine the same as I got the one listed long ago as 72% d/l amphetamine which was by the lab results the best and purest on silkroad. It was extremely clean and potent I will update (next week prohbably when it arrives) on this batch ( it still isn't listed though).
What?! Holy crap. Any idea when the listings go up?
No I think he sold out meth and is taking a break but should be up because he said he has a huge batch of this amphetamine. I know the last time I did it I had a mild overdose it was very potent and clean as hell so have to be careful with that stuff especially with the parts that are "pressed up". I'm not a regular user of amphetamines so I'm gonna do it 2-3 different ways of ROA and write a review (just hope the letter won't get lost or intercepted) but I already know that it's the good stuff.
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The last batch he did was the perfect amphetamine for me. Great mix of fire up your ass and focus.
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iisthisisi should give us a little notice when a new batch comes out to see daylight
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Review for Peppernsalt,
Short and to the point because it's just easier to read and it also avoids lots of text with irrelevant info.
I have received my first order today from this great vendor and I want say this is a trusted seller they keeps his word !!
☑ Delivery - Lightning fast and very decent
☑ Package - Good, you can tell that he takes business seriously
☑ Weight - Usually quite a bit overweight, you must let it dry before you can take it because you receive it in a white paste form
☑ Prices - Absolutely best priced speed , this price for that quality
☑ Quality - Excellent, tested 55-60% amph ! Dutch quality he give and you take it. Bottom line for me is that it makes you feel just awesome
all in all I'm a happy and steady customer of peppernsalt now ! he sell quality for best price and delivery times are light speed.
here the link to his site :
peppernsalt @ silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/4435daf061 8)
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Received 1g from Boymaster. White (was more yellowish last time) and bone-dry. 10 days to Germany (7 biz days). I think this was my ~5th successful transaction with Boymaster. :)
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CapeCrusader got Meth or Amphetamine?
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so i am currently regretting an order i placed with chaletla.. i placed it last saturday and he said it shipped priority this past monday... it's now friday and i haven't gotten a package nor a reply to any of my 5 messages to him.
anyone else in this situation? is this normal for dealing with chaletla or should i start on resolving this through sr. thanks.
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CapeCrusader got Meth or Amphetamine?
Amph
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are my products also tested on the site?
Can somebody review the amphetamine from Mercury31?
A 5g sample is on its way to my mailbox, hopefully it arrives
Grtz
Just today Mercury31's sample arrived to a neighbouring country of him.
Stealth could be a little bit better, because the stuff was centered to a little bulge.
But hey, it was free and went well! Thank you!
It seems pretty dry and it got the typical smell of paste.
I hesitate, if i want to try it this very day, because i have to be sober tomorrow and need sleep.
But here are some pictures:
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/n_1.JPG
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/n_4.JPG
Little update:
I'm very overtaken by mercury's speed.
Around march i ordered 2g "speed" from aftermathdope and after that i sweared, i will never ever buy from vendors from netherlands or germany.
(2g dried to 0,74g and imho it was just smashed caffeine pills, maybe smashed pseudoephedrine pills too (histamine antagonist with pseudoeph. are free to buy here), my worst speed purchase ever, even every street gear was better)
After that i ordered 5g from CC, for which reason i thought mercury's stuff wouldn't do the job for me, because of possible high tolerance.
But yesterday (8-10 hours ago) i did 50-70mg and still can't sleep.
Body load is a little bit higher than with CC's or BM's, but still very subtle.
At the moment i hope it contains no meth... :P
By the way: I was a little bit paranoid, why someone should give 5g of decent speed away for free and gave the half of it to a good friend.
("own usage amount" in my country is less than 5g…)
And he is also very pleased of it!
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Around march i ordered 2g "speed" from aftermathdope and after that i sweared, i will never ever buy from vendors from netherlands or germany.
(2g dried to 0,74g and imho it was just smashed caffeine pills, maybe smashed pseudoephedrine pills too (histamine antagonist with pseudoeph. are free to buy here), my worst speed purchase ever, even every street gear was better)
any other opinions and experiences with aftermathdope so far anyone?
is his stuff worth a try - or will it be only a disappointment?
thx in advance for further opinions.
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Around march i ordered 2g "speed" from aftermathdope and after that i sweared, i will never ever buy from vendors from netherlands or germany.
(2g dried to 0,74g and imho it was just smashed caffeine pills, maybe smashed pseudoephedrine pills too (histamine antagonist with pseudoeph. are free to buy here), my worst speed purchase ever, even every street gear was better)
Thought the man was clear enough
any other opinions and experiences with aftermathdope so far anyone?
is his stuff worth a try - or will it be only a disappointment?
thx in advance for further opinions.
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Hi everybody I have the lab results from Cape Crusader's stuff I ordered about 10 weeks ago.
There is 67 % amphetamine in it from a maximum of 73 % measured on the Dutch way.
So the absolutely purity is 67/73*100=91.8% and no contamination's.
I like this stuff with little side effects like sweating.
For the rest it's a pleasure to do business with CC.
When his listings are up and my bag is empty I will order again.
Regards Speedie
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aftermathdope and after that i sweared, i will never ever buy from vendors from netherlands or germany.
(2g dried to 0,74g and imho it was just smashed caffeine pills, maybe smashed pseudoephedrine pills too (histamine antagonist with pseudoeph. are free to buy here), my worst speed purchase ever, even every street gear was better)
alright, so aftermathdope shouldn´t be worth a try.
just wondering how things like that are even processed while ruining their own biz with it... :o
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Hi everybody I have the lab results from Cape Crusader's stuff I ordered about 10 weeks ago.
There is 67 % amphetamine in it from a maximum of 73 % measured on the Dutch way.
So the absolutely purity is 67/73*100=91.8% and no contamination's.
:)
I didn't expect anything else than a 90+% result. This gear is so awesome, except for one thing:
I like this stuff with little side effects like sweating.
It makes me sweat very heavily.. And I'm talking massive pit stains & very smelly :P
Normally I do not really sweat much, not like this at least.
Maybe something with the synthesis went wrong, or wasn't cleaned properly.. I don't know :)
Anyway it doesn't undermine the quality of the gear, just makes it 'harder' to use at like work or something (for me at least)
Also I managed to get some BM stuff before it ran out, got delivered at a friends address (won't use mine for a while, not since the CC debacle :P) so I'll pick it up later this week.
It'll be tested during my birthday bash that I'm throwing next weekend 8)
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I get that sweat from most of them. Though CC's has to (usually) be the cleanest wonderful stuff. Hopefully his listings are up next weekend.
I get paid every two weeks (this wasn't one of them :'() - Though I expect a 2g BM ord Tuesday. (damn mail holiday in US Monday) >:(
I'd rather work tomorrow and get my speed in the mail! Too many damn holidays in the US!
- Happy Birthday Knomo! ;)
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Damn, my order from BM was just canceled two weeks after it was marked in transit...I applied for an extension yesterday since there was 2 days left before autofinalize, then when I checked today it was canceled. Anyone have that happen before? I'm confused, my other orders from Boymaster all arrived to the US within a week or so... not sure if this one never got sent or what.
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Was it more that 1 G? Because he's running out, and 1st went the 5gs, then the 2gs, now he's just down to 1g, so that's it till he announces his triumphant return sometime in June!
I got my last 2G's from him today. Try putting in for 1 ( or 2) of the 1 gram listings.
Shipping-*8 days to just outside NYC
Product? The strongest batch so far. Has that familiar speed smell taste. A little way, but very snort-able.
2 10 mg lines, and I was good for the ride. Me and my friend has do a pickup and delivery, which takes a whole day round trip. Speed made it so much fun. Telling stories from our youth, 40+ years.
Really great strong stuff.
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Got my gram from BM and found it exceptionally potent. 8mg of this stuff felt stronger than 10mg of adderall - has anyone tested it? It seems so strong that I'm not sure if maybe it's meth.
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Hi guys,
As you can read on the forums and on my vendor profile
you can see im pretty crazy,
Few weeks ago i send 500g of free amphetamine for all SR users (100x5g)
Now im giving away FREE ecstasy pills(160mg nike's) (100x3pills)
Not knowing how crazy i will be in the future SELECT ME AS A FAN and maybe you will
have some FREE gear in the future.
Im all about customer service and giving all you Silk Roaders a GREAT time!!!
You can also read my review page :http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=41848.0
Or visit my vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/0959809f11
Free samples topic: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=126450.msg869507#msg869507
also if you want to see some other product listed in my account please speak here so i can see
how many people would like to use the product
Regards,Mercury31
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You are crazy ;D too bad I didn't get to sample the speed but got in time for the pills.
I came to see if there were any updates on CC or BM, no listings for CC and BM is out of stock only listing low quantities :-\
Any of you used amps to make Mdma high more active? because last time I took 135mg I was just sitting appreciating the existence not feeling like dancing or talking or anything.
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nothing is free in life, kids.
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You are crazy ;D too bad I didn't get to sample the speed but got in time for the pills.
I came to see if there were any updates on CC or BM, no listings for CC and BM is out of stock only listing low quantities :-\
Any of you used amps to make Mdma high more active? because last time I took 135mg I was just sitting appreciating the existence not feeling like dancing or talking or anything.
I don't now if it makes the MDMA high any stronger, but I always take speed just before I take MDMA.
I LOVE the energetic feeling from speed & amp, so I combine the two together and it's even better. However, only 10 - 25gm of good quality amp, otherwise I've found that higher doses of amp + MDMA makes me too stimulated and the speed kills a lot of the MDMA high.
The best experience I ever had with MDMA was ~15mg speed, and then about 30 minutes later I had 160mg MDMA. That was one very intense come-up. But a very amazing next few hours :D
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nice and important advice, Dingo,
as it is really a fact that amph got the ability to kill the mdma-effects easily when it´s "overdosed".
But a combination of both a) in well done doses and b) timely perfect set can definitely give you awesome and wonderful experiences.
Just stay clever ;)
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nice and important advice, Dingo,
as it is really a fact that amph got the ability to kill the mdma-effects easily when it´s "overdosed".
But a combination of both a) in well done doses and b) timely perfect set can definitely give you awesome and wonderful experiences.
Just stay clever ;)
+1
It's all about finding the right dose. What works for me wouldn't work for others. I know a lot of people would find the combination too powerful stimulation. I can cope with it and enjoy it, but other people would find it too strong. I seem to cope well with stimulants, but downers (alcohol, weed, benzo's) make me more tired than most people.
Doamine dominant drugs such as speed, meth and cocaine can easily kill and MDMA high, so they are best taken separately unless very small doses of them are used.
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Hey speedfreaks,
any news about CC? Not seeing his items up since a while..and with BM also at the end of stock, getting worried about the next refill ;)
I've tried Interways speed paste meantime.
I must say I'm very happy with him - great communication and stelath. His MDMA is definitely good, and the speed paste is more than OK compared to the others whatanot on SR. Not talking about the same purity of BM and CC sulphate but definitely a good speed.
Greetz
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Appreciate the feedback guys,
Gonna try it this weekend, either with 100mg of mdma or 150 of m1 + 20 BM's .
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Hey speedfreaks,
any news about CC? Not seeing his items up since a while..and with BM also at the end of stock, getting worried about the next refill ;)
I've tried Interways speed paste meantime.
I must say I'm very happy with him - great communication and stelath. His MDMA is definitely good, and the speed paste is more than OK compared to the others whatanot on SR. Not talking about the same purity of BM and CC sulphate but definitely a good speed.
Greetz
received a re-ship plus private listing top-up order from CC last weekend - top notch customer service btw - extremely flexible when first order escaped...clearly the shit is so good, that sometimes the packages themselves get so fucking high they literally grow a pair of legs and do a runner because they can't stay still for such a long journey whilst being so amped up!
Anyway...point is, I'm told that listings are due back in next couple days!
Side note:
Also received the sample from mercury31 - but not tried yet – been too pre-occupied with new CC and remainder of last two BM batches
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Hi,
Any better than street vendor ? Is CashMachine ok ? Any other vendor who is good and isn't BM or CC ?
Thanks
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Well, i would say give Mercury a try.
It's decent, dried and not very costly.
btw: I think, i will try his hash soon.
My MDMA desire wasn't big enough for the free order.
Maybe i will try it, if i order some hash in the future...
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Well, i would say give Mercury a try.
It's decent, dried and not very costly.
btw: I think, i will try his hash soon.
My MDMA desire wasn't big enough for the free order.
Maybe i will try it, if i order some hash in the future...
I got into the MDMA sample, would have loved to get into the speed one.
Well, I suppose I will buy from him. ;D
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I'm on Mercury's atm and I have to say I'm pretty pleased, especially considering it was free :P I've no scale atm, but 3 alright sized lines over about 3 hours has me pretty amped. Not flying, but nicely motivated, more focused, bit of a confident boost; I've been chatting to people online easily when I'd usually be a bit anxious about what I say and how it may be received, now I'm moving on to organising the house for a party tomorrow night and enjoying some tunes. I'd consider it to be a good fallback if you can't get your hands on CC or BM. Definitely wouldn't keep me going for a night on 10 or 15mg like CC's, but don't think I'd have to top up more than once or twice once I get going. Bit of bodyload, but nothing unmanageable. I don't have much to compare it to except some speed I got for exams last year off a mate and CC's, but I'm happy enough. Would really like to see more people with more experience weighing in about the quality as well.
The package itself came fairly quickly to Ireland, the stealth left a fair bit to be desired which would make me reluctant to reorder, but it got to me anyway, and I've heard good things about his communication although I didn't have reason to get in touch with him personally. Positive experience all the way anyway :)
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Greetings
Sorry for keeping you all in the dark these past few weeks. My listings are going up this evening in about 6 hours or so. The first orders will be shipped on Monday. Please note that i will be putting up the maximum that i can process over the weekend so do not panic if it runs out as there will be more.
Best regards
CC
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Dammmn, those went fast CC.
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Anyone else out there who has little to no reaction to the latest white BM batch? had all of his batches before, and they almost all worked perfect for me. But this white new stuff, does not do anything even if try like 250mg at once, which is nearly as 10x times as much as what i do usual from BM´s stuff.
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Dammmn, those went fast CC.
No i never put anything up yet. They're going up in about 2 hours. I'm also bringing back the 1 gram listings due to the requests of a few customers.
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Just ate 25 milligrams of Arnarchy's speed. I've never had speed before.
This is a very familiar feeling.
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Anyone else out there who has little to no reaction to the latest white BM batch? had all of his batches before, and they almost all worked perfect for me. But this white new stuff, does not do anything even if try like 250mg at once, which is nearly as 10x times as much as what i do usual from BM´s stuff.
I thought it might be my tolerance... although I had 12 days off (sure 21 is min I read but I was only doing speed for 5-6 days before that).
but like, I don't know. It definitely doesn't have the nasty bodyload. This stuff I received a week ago is the white stuff and um...Yesterday I took 150mg (while the yellow stuff wasn't very prefered by me because I just got heavy bodyload and sketchyness.. I had nearly no effect from the 150mg. but I had used for 2 days (with sleep). amp tolerance is super rapid... but I thought I'd come here and check what the average dosage sizes are for people? Once 150mg didn't work I decided maybe I should just get clean for a month.. but somehow 125 hours (5 days and some) I was stlil awake. longest run ever... I had used up 1.5g in one 5 day sitting... without really getting spun at all just normal... wouldn't say I was speeding or tripping but.. i was obsessively doing stuff and well.. Sleep deprevation is a form of anti depressant.. so I was feeling pleased to be doing random shit but I'm never doing that agian because I simply couldn't keep up with the food intake. I maintained my vitamin schedule but that flushes out amps...
I did attempt to go to sleep on like day 2-3-4 by taking 1-2 xanax powder but that just put me in a goood uppity mood and dumbass taking more speed. eventualy on day 5 when the hallucinations intensified (generally they will be starting at dayt 3.5 and it'll just be morphing and u just know its what it is.. but there was a fuckinmg GNOME BEHIND THE sofathat kept jumping up and down... and then the god damn voices.. conversations.. I knew they were hallucinations but they were annoying me. I said shut up hallucin ation motherfuckers im trying to not sleep here... and of course I tried to listen in to what the voices were saying (hint... if u plug ur ears and u still hear that shit.. go to bed). I mean the gnome thing didn't annoy me or scare me... I've never made it to day 5 before and to be frank I don't intend to tmake it to day 2 again either. I was always strict and timed my downer well and it'd knock me out.... but i ndo wtf. I've done 2x 4 days and 3x 5 days (which is nothign to m meth users maybe) but I lost even more...
Still I think I was using rather smalll doses to make it last... I was checking my blood pressure and heartrate of course regularly and blood pressure was normal (my bp doesn't seem to be effected much by amps anyway) heartrate elevated by 20 bpm less than yellow stuff.
Anyways what doses of the white stuff does anyone take? I remember taking 50mg first dose, 12 days clean and it didn't really do much for me so I started snorting it ( i hate snorting... I mean, I love the burn the rush instant but, I avoid it cause of getting stuffy bleednose n shit.. also just feels unsmooth how the high comes on quick n drops off quicker)
I think a few times i was a bit lazy with my stomach acidity and didn't make sure to sort out my ph with that sodium bicarbonate.
did i mention that this stuff is the most obsesssive behaviour causing stuff I've used? I can sit on a fucking forum post posting about which colour is the most interesting colour for 4 hours and then just go and edit it into "nm wrong forum". I really really gotta force myself to .. loike now. I have to say this so that I realize to stop typing. Stop typing idiot go do something productive. yes. It's funny. I bought a guitar and downloaded some learn how to play in 21 days.. I spent 2 hours and was on day 8 playing the songs fine on the speed. but then I went back to chatting with people I don't e.... ok fuck off post.
edit: (yes.. this is what I do) (every post I .. tis is obsessive behaviour really... I absoltelly ban alll porn type stuff because then i end up 24 hours later going why did I do that... ) (no im editing now beause I was gonna say I think I have a naturally high tolerance anyhow .... uh both my cousins have ADHD but I don't know im gonna alt f4 NOW) no wait save) THEN
eh.. tldr:
BM white stuff, ( from 1 week ago end of may)... what doses do you need to hit the spot ? (orally preferred because one line of this and i was snotnose fucknut in bnoth nostrils for a day)
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damn, that seems like huge doses of boymaster's gear, though the last two batches I got were the waxy stuff.
kind of glad my BM order from a few weeks ago got canceled out of nowhere on Monday (though I wish I knew if it was never sent, got caught at customs, returned to sender or wtf happened with it). just placed an order w/CC...let's hoping this one gets here
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whats the deal with all the BM no shows all of a sudden?
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BM mentioned he won't be back until late June. He is regrouping. Also, his newest batch is more similar to CC than ever -- he somehow reformulated it to lessen the body-load. You probably think it is less powerful due to this. I can assure you it is just as clean and as strong, when you inject you can get a good feel for these things.
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BM mentioned he won't be back until late June. He is regrouping. Also, his newest batch is more similar to CC than ever -- he somehow reformulated it to lessen the body-load. You probably think it is less powerful due to this. I can assure you it is just as clean and as strong, when you inject you can get a good feel for these things.
.. I have used every batch of CC and BM's stuff . In fact I was using CC 12 days prior.... 100mg would be more than enough.
I need a month long holiday I guses. I get more lethargic and llses drive than when sober. no supps help . only tiiiime will. good thing I prepared by acquiring cannabis cause tomorrow gonna be bleh.
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Reviw for High Quality Speed Paste
Vendor: JohnnyDeal
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/8969302e8d
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=161535.msg1150240#msg1150240
•Quality of Service:
Fantastic. I felt that JohhnnyDeal went out of his way to answer all my questions.
•Delivery time & shipping:
Immediate transit and 4 business days Germany to US.
Quite discreet and extremely professional looking on the outside, plastic vac seal. I was unable to pinpoint the contents from the exterior.
Addition of MBB would be a welcomed addition.
•Professionalism of communications
Really a very pleasant individual to chat with. Very responsive to PMs and questions. Seems like a standup vendor the way he chose to go about offering this by getting reviewer feedback before listing it.
•Quality of Product:
What a pleasant surprise this was! Most "paste" speed I've tried from SR is garbage. Most dry speed I've tried is okay. But this here I enjoyed far more than even Boymaster's! Seriously, this is the best speed I've yet to from the road apart from Ruthenium's d-amphetamine. This felt essentially the same as Rx adderall (which I've munched for years)... very nice euphoric cerebral buzz along with a pleasurable peripheral body buzz. I've never had the best of both worlds from SR speed before this.
Sample arrived moist. I was given the option by JohnnyDeal as he was undecided on how he wanted to offer it and I chose moist to help him determine what he was working with. Here is what I was able to determine from the moist sample I received:
Wet: White, typical odor of wet speed (acetone-like odor). Placed on warm plate for an hour. I returned to totally dry speed.
Dry weight = 80% of wet weight. Dry speed was pulverized to a powder with consistency similar to BMs (occasional slighty waxy clump but perfectly snortable).
Oral dosing: two of us bombed 40 mg ea. and got a proper amphetamine buzz! Both pretty damn zooted from this alone! It felt just as 40 mg amphetamine should.
Washed: A portion of dried speed was washed 2x with anhydrous acetone.
Recovery weight = 91%. Given that 10-20% loss is to be expected with any wash, this is pretty damn good. Product came back a brilliant sparkling white and was pulverized to a much finer gorgeous white powder ideal for snorting.
Overall, there was no noticeable difference in strength between between washed and unwashed powder. Product appeared to work better orally than snorted as legit amphetamine should.
I could not taste or feel any effects from any active cuts. The tight wash suggests little to no inert byproduct or cut.
A total of 0.565 grams dry (0.7 grams wet) was split between two people. This kept us both up for over 48 hours, both zooming/feeling amazing the entire time. Appetite was crushed, concentration was intense, libido through the goddamn roof. I felt social, motivated, inspired, focused, and a bit of a sex fiend on this stuff. Anxiety was minimal, dry mouth was killer. Crash was typical for a 2 day binge. :)
Really really promising stuff here, I truly hope Johnny has alot more of this! Dry or not, this is fantastic stuff and I cannot wait to get some more of this.
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I have sampled almost every batch BM and CC put out. I am very happy with the brilliant white; although a moot point at the moment. 30-40mg is plenty for me when I have a moderate amount of tolerance. There seems to be a point that going beyond yields very little benefit with a huge amount of undesirable effects.
To each their own.
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I received sample from iisthisisi on friday didn't start to write a review yet since he hasn't logged in for 11 days straight . Just a few things i can tell it has the same clean smell as the previous 72% d/l amphetamine, it dissolves easily by shaking, no or very very few undissolvables are left (if you IV), powder is dry kinda fluffy very white like snow, has the same taste as previous batch of his 72% .
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Greetings
Sorry for keeping you all in the dark these past few weeks. My listings are going up this evening in about 6 hours or so. The first orders will be shipped on Monday. Please note that i will be putting up the maximum that i can process over the weekend so do not panic if it runs out as there will be more.
Best regards
CC
I'm so happy that you are back. I did not know where I should buy speed when you and BM do not have anything listed
CC is one of the speed gods!!
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Does anyone injects speed here? What is the most popular ROA ? I went through the half a gram in 3 days snorting/shooting. Well theres bits left here and there and I'm thinking maybe oral ROA tomorrow..
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oral ROA is all I do anymore, CC and BM's stuff will mess up your nose quite badly after not too long (at least in my experience) and I hate the taste of lesser speed
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you guys use this every day ? it seems to me that the first day was very euphoric but later on you just kinda feel pleasant stimulation.. :)
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you guys use this every day ? it seems to me that the first day was very euphoric but later on you just kinda feel pleasant stimulation.. :)
that´s called "tolerance" ;)
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Anyone else out there who has little to no reaction to the latest white BM batch? had all of his batches before, and they almost all worked perfect for me. But this white new stuff, does not do anything even if try like 250mg at once, which is nearly as 10x times as much as what i do usual from BM´s stuff.
Same issue. Except this was my first batch from BM. Had two weeks off speed before receiving my order from him. All I get from 50mg is a bit of energy as if I had coffee or something, no body load or restlessness which I like a little of. Actually almost fell asleep an hour after dosing. :-\
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Hi everybody I have the lab results from Cape Crusader's stuff I ordered about 10 weeks ago.
There is 67 % amphetamine in it from a maximum of 73 % measured on the Dutch way.
So the absolutely purity is 67/73*100=91.8% and no contamination's.
:)
I didn't expect anything else than a 90+% result. This gear is so awesome, except for one thing:
Me neither, my guess was +90% as well.
BM mentioned he won't be back until late June. He is regrouping. Also, his newest batch is more similar to CC than ever -- he somehow reformulated it to lessen the body-load.
BM's white batch is pretty nice indeed. My tolerance has dropped quite a bit, really nice. No expert but imho he switched (?) to p2np as precursor, since it's so easily available. Wondering if his plans for this summer are still the same!?
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müslix - that is a bombshell revelation. Seriously. I never would've thought that, but having learned fast, the ins and the outs of this whole thing called amphetamine, it makes a lot of sense.
You were one of the first ones I remember on this thread . I've had different names, but I remember you.
That is dead-ON! - BM's speed did change. Although, have you tried the very last batch to go out? - Almost like Vintage Boymaster circa March 2013~!
Anyway, it's great that CC is back. Can't wait to see BM's next offerings!
I'm reaping the CC harvest while I can! ;)
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Anyone else out there who has little to no reaction to the latest white BM batch? had all of his batches before, and they almost all worked perfect for me. But this white new stuff, does not do anything even if try like 250mg at once, which is nearly as 10x times as much as what i do usual from BM´s stuff.
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Anyone else out there who has little to no reaction to the latest white BM batch? had all of his batches before, and they almost all worked perfect for me. But this white new stuff, does not do anything even if try like 250mg at once, which is nearly as 10x times as much as what i do usual from BM´s stuff.
Same issue. Except this was my first batch from BM. Had two weeks off speed before receiving my order from him. All I get from 50mg is a bit of energy as if I had coffee or something, no body load or restlessness which I like a little of. Actually almost fell asleep an hour after dosing. :-\
sounds not good....what about that?
anyone tried the new batches from BM / CC?
i also really wanna buy some speed, but this reviews are disappointing me. :-(
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No clue what you guys are doing wrong. When I binge on BM's current batch I do like ~50 mg every 6 hours.
The first dose I do orally, but when redosing I just can't resist to snort the stuff.
My dick is so incredibly tiny and thin, but also so sensitive I really need to resist touching him all the time ;D.
I am also so incredibly focused, like last night I was playing on pc all night and I was freezing all the time, but it took me like 5 hours to close the window ::).
I actually bought it for studying, but it turned into binge every time so far..
Crazy stuff it is!
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Anyone else out there who has little to no reaction to the latest white BM batch? had all of his batches before, and they almost all worked perfect for me. But this white new stuff, does not do anything even if try like 250mg at once, which is nearly as 10x times as much as what i do usual from BM´s stuff.
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Anyone else out there who has little to no reaction to the latest white BM batch? had all of his batches before, and they almost all worked perfect for me. But this white new stuff, does not do anything even if try like 250mg at once, which is nearly as 10x times as much as what i do usual from BM´s stuff.
Same issue. Except this was my first batch from BM. Had two weeks off speed before receiving my order from him. All I get from 50mg is a bit of energy as if I had coffee or something, no body load or restlessness which I like a little of. Actually almost fell asleep an hour after dosing. :-\
sounds not good....what about that?
anyone tried the new batches from BM / CC?
i also really wanna buy some speed, but this reviews are disappointing me. :-(
I have tried both. The problem is I have been using high purity amphetamines on and off... eventujally even if you're doing 5-7 days on and 12 days off you still have massive tolerance to the point where u can barely feel the effects you seek. the most common effect that appears when you're zonked out ur tolerance is obsessive behaviour and nothing else.
Everyone reacts and is wired differently. I never got great effects from the previous BM because the combination didn't go well for my neurochem. one thing I think most people who had any sense agreed upon was that the bodyyload of the old bm stuff was probably not worth it if you could get clean CC stuff.
I can somehow feel that this batch is more close to CC though even through what appears to be me having hit the wall. I really haven't taken an entire month off so... I think that's needed.
This has less bodyload obviously, I don't get spun up from it proper.... I only managed to get high from sleep deprevation and enter obsessive states. (rather had been sober). I doubtany speed will work for me at super doses even quite some time. and of course with E there will prob never be one of those perfect pushes again so I'm not even chasing that. Just the general energy lift. Now I can only get a bit of edginess + agitation at any dosage. time to enter recovery.
moderate your use.. hah.. hahaha.. hahahahah. yes good break is required for me. don't know what others have.. may be tolerance may be a mix of both tolerance and the product not hitting home with everyone the same.
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I use ~ once a week and BM's batch seems as pure as is past ones, if not purer.
For now BM's new white batch and CC's batch have essentially the same effect on me.
His old yellow batch had more of a bodyload, maybe that's why people think this one's not as strong?
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I use ~ once a week and BM's batch seems as pure as is past ones, if not purer.
For now BM's new white batch and CC's batch have essentially the same effect on me.
His old yellow batch had more of a bodyload, maybe that's why people think this one's not as strong?
The white batch that was the "new dimension in speed" or something, was radically different from anything I've gotten from him, or anybody for that matter. Very chunky powder. When chopping it up, it felt like powdered laundry detergent.
Then the very last batch that people have been getting for like the last week or more, seemed like back to the old boymaster. Yellow waxiness, yet not too waxy. Very pungent aroma, even a bit caustic on the nose if abused enough. I'm on a break from it for a few days in fact, because my nostrils became very irritated. A lot like back in January when he came out of retirement. I remember reading a few people couldn't tolerate it nasally, and I thought "Good at least it's not just me". - I didn't post on here back then, I was reading and learning.
This very last batch, if any of you ordered before BM ran out, is THE STRONGEST Boymaster speed that I've had, and I was buying since last summer. Even 2 friends who were helping me run a fiber optic line to my mancave in back of my house, called me the next night and said "WTF was with that speed? We both stayed up till sunrise and couldn't STFU!!" LoL - I said "I'm pretty sure that's the strongest speed I've EVER had".
BM's "Bon Voyage Batch". I surmised that he had to cook up one quick to cover the deluge of orders that came in when he announced his vacation. The 'new dimension' bone meal, just didn't last long enough. - Just as well. - I didn't like it. I'd rather have this nose burning shit, that gives me a heart attack~! :o
If he could make it somewhere between the quality of the two, it would be perfect! ;D
Enough about that. - Anyone receive their new CC orders yet? - I know it's early but I just can't wait to hear about it. I just got my order in today.
Still got some BM left, and someone sent me a sample 1/4 G of Meth. I'd never done it before, and thought I would have my socks blown off, but it was actually quite mellow. I totally had the wrong idea about that stuff. It was almost a Dexedrine type high. - More mental than anything else.
Well I am still typing away incessantly like a fiend. So there is that! :P
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Enough about that. - Anyone receive their new CC orders yet? - I know it's early but I just can't wait to hear about it. I just got my order in today.
New CC orders or new CC batch? I placed my last CC order just before he took his listing down when the bitcoin prices were skyrocketing and I was assuming that this is still the same batch.
Also; I took the gamble to place a small order with Peppernsalt last week and sampled it last weekend (it's like discovering a new flavor of crisps in the supermarket, if it doesn't sound downright revolting and isn't horribly expensive I just have to try it ;D). Anyway; service was very good; one day domestic shipping and ok stealth. Wet weight was spot on but weight loss with drying was a little over 50%.. ouch. I think I have quite a bit of tolerance but 100mgs kept me going for a good 8 hours with some nice euphoria to it. All in all a very decent product in my opinion but it honestly wouldn't recommend it if snorting is your preferred ROA. Throatdrip was one of the most revolting ones I have ever experienced and the product had an insane amount of volume per weight (I actualy double checked my scale because my 100mgs looked like way more).
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Anyone tried Budworx speed?
The listing has been up for a while now..
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Anyone tried Budworx speed?
The listing has been up for a while now..
I PM'd them a while back to see if they'd consider shipping to the states, and the person who responded was quite agreeable. I see they now they ship here anyway. I was ready to give them a try back when BM+CC were on hiatus, and I was exploring. Though those two came back. I still have them fanned as one that I'd give a try. ( if that helps?) ;)
Chip
PS. FB speaks volumes. 11 months 97%? That's passes the litmus test for me!
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Anyone tried Budworx speed?
The listing has been up for a while now..
I PM'd them a while back to see if they'd consider shipping to the states, and the person who responded was quite agreeable. I see they now they ship here anyway. I was ready to give them a try back when BM+CC were on hiatus, and I was exploring. Though those two came back. I still have them fanned as one that I'd give a try. ( if that helps?) ;)
Chip
PS. FB speaks volumes. 11 months 97%? That's passes the litmus test for me!
Thanks Chip!
Considering pulling the trigger while I wait until Monday for CC to put his listings up again..
The feedback on Budworx is decent and even if its only average gear it's still good for the price.
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PS. FB speaks volumes. 11 months 97%? That's passes the litmus test for me!
Meh, not saying Budworx isn't selling good stuff, but Aakoven and several others spelling "speed" paste that had to be less than 5% actual amph. had >95% FB for a solid year (actually not that I check aakoven is still on the first page of speed results)...the top listings for speed are mostly crap, people give 5/5 when they receive the package and don't update or are clueless about good speed.
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Since I can't find a reliable dexedrine source in EU, I am looking into trying speed.
I don't really want to get fucked up, I want to concentrate and get a lot of work done.
I have tried interways speed and found the toll on my mind and body not worth it.
Would you say that better quality speed would be comparable to dexedrine or adderall?
Which vendor would you recommend? From what I read, BM is the guy :)
thanks!
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Since I can't find a reliable dexedrine source in EU, I am looking into trying speed.
I don't really want to get fucked up, I want to concentrate and get a lot of work done.
I have tried interways speed and found the toll on my mind and body not worth it.
Would you say that better quality speed would be comparable to dexedrine or adderall?
Which vendor would you recommend? From what I read, BM is the guy :)
thanks!
Well I sometimes use BM's for motivation and studying, I cant compare to pharmaceutical amps because I have not tried them but it is very useful for what you want as long as you don't take too much and feel too high.
I tried FrankMathews speed and it helped to kill the sleep and made me more active and attentive but not much of that "lets do it" feeling.
Finally got the opportunity to order from CC I so wanna try it, ordered 10g for the first time ::)
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Since I can't find a reliable dexedrine source in EU, I am looking into trying speed.
I don't really want to get fucked up, I want to concentrate and get a lot of work done.
I have tried interways speed and found the toll on my mind and body not worth it.
Would you say that better quality speed would be comparable to dexedrine or adderall?
Which vendor would you recommend? From what I read, BM is the guy :)
thanks!
Well I sometimes use BM's for motivation and studying, I cant compare to pharmaceutical amps because I have not tried them but it is very useful for what you want as long as you don't take too much and feel too high.
I tried FrankMathews speed and it helped to kill the sleep and made me more active and attentive but not much of that "lets do it" feeling.
Finally got the opportunity to order from CC I so wanna try it, ordered 10g for the first time ::)
Thanks for the reply. I highly recommend pharma quality speed. It really is a different world from the stuff I tried! :)
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ok, i´ve orderd from BM yesterday...lets wait for my package and see how it goes. :)
btw, my first speed-order on the road!
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Been away for some time consuming the speed I had in stock. Seems like BM is still the international daddy of speed so I'm going to place my first order with him also. Getting tired of getting the weight scam from the Dutch speed paste. Also getting tired of acetone-rinsing my speed to get rid of the 50% caffeine. I'm no chemist and I don't like the mess it makes, the fumes make me dizzy and I keep screwing up and losing speed in the process.
So yeah...BM it is!
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Had a few coin and took a punt on Johny Deal as Bm was more than i had and CC was out.
Took 12 days to get here, it left as wet paste and arrived perfectly dried. . Nice except my po box and the envelope absorbed the wet and stunk like fuk, how it got through the supposed toughest gate on the planet just shows that its just another gate on the planet.
The product was pretty good as i was expecting low quality
My last from BM and CC only got me there on the first taking then just start to get weird in my stomach. Tolerance is a bit on the extremet side.
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Just an update: I spent a week sober, then today I did three 30mg lines of BM's speed spaced out 30 minutes. That did the trick :) Buzzing now on a clean rush of energy. A lot more than I was hoping to have to use though. $60 for a 2mg batch is gunna be costly... Oh well !
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Great to hear from Sinning Saint. Good to read others are finding out the limits of tolerance. Nothing lasts forever. It's all a part of 'growing up' I guess. Perhaps when I'm 60, I'll be 'all grown up' :P
Also, I thought I was the only one that $60 was a lot of money to. I came on here seeing everyone ordering 10g's of shit all the time. I'm like, "What the fuck do these guys do for a living?" - then I realized they weren't in the US (most of them), where the good old working class are getting squeezed by the phony leaders elected on the promise-premis of 'fairness'. Everybody pay their fair share- BULLSHIT - Life isn't fair. Show me a politician claiming he's going to make things fair and he's already proven himself full of shit.
I'm out of the game for now. Just checking in to see how my fellow droogs are doing. Got an Adderall script, and getting tested for all sorts of fun diseases that await me. I think I'll be OK, I just hate doctors! -Well it's a love-hate thing. ::)
Be well everyone! Watch that tolly! - It's a BITCH!!!!
Peace
jagfug
PS Karma (on here) doesn't mean shit. - but I'm Karma+ the whole page. Just for the fuck of it. - Sayonara!
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That last batch of Boymaster is rougher on the nose than I realized. I had bleeding, and the inside of my nostrils looked like a layer of membrane was burned off! :o
Forced me into a break as well. Just took 50mg orally today, with bicarb. Hopefully will neutralize that nasty leftover shit in this batch. A lot like the beginning of the year. Definitely strongest Amph I've ever had. Just has that unfortunate leftover shit in there that is a bit caustic.
If you can do an acetone wash. I have less than a gram, so it's really not worth it at this point. It's definitely the strongest I feel he's put out. Just that nasty particulate matter. Need to cook it out, or wash it, if you're IV'ng it. I can't even imagine what it would be like to mainline that.
For braver souls than me!
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Great to hear from Sinning Saint. Good to read others are finding out the limits of tolerance. Nothing lasts forever. It's all a part of 'growing up' I guess. Perhaps when I'm 60, I'll be 'all grown up' :P
Also, I though I was the only one that $60 was a lot of money to. I came on here seeing everyone ordering 10g's of shit all the time. I'm like, "What the fuck do these guys do for a living?" - then I realized they weren't in the US (most of them), where the good old working class are getting squeezed by the phony leaders elected on the promise-premis of 'fairness'. Everybody pay their fair share- BULLSHIT - Life isn't fair. Show me a politician claiming he's going to make things fair and he's already proven himself full of shit.
I'm out of the game for now. Just checking in to see how my fellow droogs are doing. Got an Adderall script, and getting tested for all sorts of fun diseases that await me. I think I'll be OK, I just hate doctors! -Well it's a love-hate thing. ::)
Be well everyone! Watch that tolly! - It's a BITCH!!!!
Peace
jagfug
PS Karma (on here) doesn't mean shit. - but I'm Karma+ the whole page. Just for the fuck of it. - Sayonara!
Sad to see you go jagfug, I always enjoyed your posts...always informative and funny! Take care man. How long did you use amp? Frequency? doseages? I hear you on Tolerance. Damn it. I'm caught in a speed/benzo cycle that makes me a super animal at work while keeping my cool and remembering to cram down half a dozen donuts at each meal to keep my size 32 jeans on (was size 34 in February). I'm on an unsupervised probation, which is pretty much the man milking you for cash and threatening you with random drug tests that you already paid for, but i'm a month away from being done in half the time, thank god. Stupid DUI. I knew I shouldn't have moved to a state that snows when I have goodyear F1's on my sled, no matter HOW much the job pays, lol. Luckily i just slid off the road and nobody got hurt. First arrest ever, blew three times the limit, thanks to some extra help. lol. Anyways, declined a lawyer, pled guilty, scratched a handful of blank checks to the man, rehabilitated myself, yada yada. Long story short, I no longer drink and drive, it's a bad move.I don't judge people that do it, but I strongly caution against it. Personally I think they should make it flat out illegal, but that would generate far less revenue for the man because you'd eliminate probably about 40% of people who are testing the limits on buzzed driving (.08-.10). Kind of like how cigarette taxes keep going up cause they want you to quit. News flash: if everyone quit smoking tomorrow, the economy would crash. Now, uncle sam may not run out of money, but he will run out of "federal reserves." I wonder if anybody is taking a duster thingy to clear the cobwebs out of fort knox or wherever they're holding that gold bullion for us?
Long story short, I bought into the scare tactics of randomized drug testings, twelve of them over a probo period of a year (which i got shortened down to six months, i'll give them credit there). Paid for em up front, something in the neighborhood of $60 each. Also twelve breathalyzers at 40 bucks a pop. Backed off of everything at first, realized it was a hoax, and it was back to business as usual. Now I'm almost done and have yet to take a piss test or blower. Should I send a letter notifying them of this testing that is still to be completed in such a short time window? I mean if it comes down to the last couple of days, there's only so much water a man drink before he dies. I'd hate to waste the money though, I'd almost rather they either just refund me half and call it good or put it towards that new prison they're building for illegal immigrants who build our comfortable homes we sleep in at night or people sparking up pipes filled with organic herbs rather than white rolled up cancer sticks laced with arsenic and shit. Eh. Agree to disagree. I guess I'll let it slide, since they were courteous enough to indicate on the police report the site of the crash, although innacurate, a clear half mile across the county line where it actually happened, which oddly enough is the only county in this god forsaken state that has a diversion program for first time dui offenders. Aside from the laptop computer, phone, and downfeather winter coat that were missing from my car when i picked it up after two nights in jail at the impound lot, the good news was my wallet and two one dollar bills were still there!I always hate buying a new wallet, and Man was I thirsty! those two singles quenched my thirst with an ice cold 20 oz sprite. Feeling quite cheery, I grabbed my wallet, sans drivers license, id, and anything made of plastic, strapped on my windbreaker and started walking 7.72 miles home in 12 degree weather. Still, my heart was warmed with holiday cheer. Hell, I was even able to convince an islamic fundamentalist taxicab driver to drive my home on my word, and compensated him with a few sterling silver coins. "Season's Greetings!" I enthusiasticly shouted as he backed out of my driveway.
But on a serious note, I was able to determine the state i was driving in confiscated my out of state license, reportedly mailed it down to the issuing state via certified mail, but without tracking information. My home state showed no record of receiving it or any holds/suspensions on it. Well, it's government work, it happens occasionally. No big deal. Just someone possibly running around with my license. Maybe i'll get lucky and i can offer him a reward for it on silk road. I swear they used to have a lost and found section. Anyhow, I was able to order a replacement for a mere $25 and in the hypothetical event that my probation expires at midnight on a certain date, It's quite likely that i'll have at least both front tires over the state line by 12:05. I'd get across sooner if i didnt have a couple of last second errands to run, like finding a place to dump all those five gallon jugs of kerosene in the trunk and that economy pack of blue tip matches I bought at sam's club. I knew i didn't need that many for the cookout. So silly. And I bought way too much kerosene for the lanterns, but oh well. I can't have it weighing down my air ride suspension in the back like that. Those are too expensive to replace.
Well, now I'm rambling. What all that has to do with "Buyers Review on Speed/Amphetamine Vendors esp. Quality"? Not quite sure. I'll have to PM Boymaster and ask. haha. Hope some of you had a few laughs and realized that my tongue was firmly planted in cheek in the above editorial. The story is true though. Good night all.
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@FITW- LMAO! That's the 1st time I've seen you on a true amph/rant! Hey! Someone has to fill my shoes!
I had a DWI as they call it in the State it happened in. It's a racket. Fat piggy fingers never found the Himylayan Opium at the bottom of my pocket.
Thank God!
Still don't understand the part of the story where you have to pay for the tests. Do you mean you're buying clean urine? I know they sell freeze dried urine to pass tests.
Either way it was entertaining.
I guess that last BM batch was pretty strong! - I remember back in the winter when I was on here complaining about nose-burn.
I think back then it was from rushing one of the cooking stages. Either way, I'm sure BM will be back with a great batch soon.
Just saw he's still got grams up. I thought he went on vacation already.- Oh well. Have fun!
I'll be back from time to time to 'check in'.
Peace 8)
jagfug
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@FITW- LMAO! That's the 1st time I've seen you on a true amph/rant! Hey! Someone has to fill my shoes!
I had a DWI as they call it in the State it happened in. It's a racket. Fat piggy fingers never found the Himylayan Opium at the bottom of my pocket.
Thank God!
Still don't understand the part of the story where you have to pay for the tests. Do you mean you're buying clean urine? I know they sell freeze dried urine to pass tests.
Either way it was entertaining.
I guess that last BM batch was pretty strong! - I remember back in the winter when I was on here complaining about nose-burn.
I think back then it was from rushing one of the cooking stages. Either way, I'm sure BM will be back with a great batch soon.
Just saw he's still got grams up. I thought he went on vacation already.- Oh well. Have fun!
I'll be back from time to time to 'check in'.
Peace 8)
jagfug
Haha I love it. It's so obvious.
I used to talk to a certain Amp vendor on here and I used to get massive, massive replies back to all my messages.
Was a nice change though.
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Im thinking of placing a order of speed, but dont know who i should buy from just yet. CC and BM are both out of the question because their countries doesnt ship well to mine. Im trying to choose between Arnachy and Dagobert, which both seems to be alright and most importantly it ships from germany which is the best country for me. So ladys and gentlemen, who should i choose? :)
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Im thinking of placing a order of speed, but dont know who i should buy from just yet. CC and BM are both out of the question because their countries doesnt ship well to mine. Im trying to choose between Arnachy and Dagobert, which both seems to be alright and most importantly it ships from germany which is the best country for me. So ladys and gentlemen, who should i choose? :)
I can speak for Dagobert. Well, he's a veteran SR'er! Very decent speed. I believe I saw a test where the purity wasn't great.
But if it's important for it to be domestic Germany. Go for it!
He was one of my first purchases on here.. Dagobert is a good guy. Especially friendly to his fellow countrymen!
I'd say at least 7 or 8 orders to me in US. All good. Only once one got lost. I let it go, since I knew it was no fault of his own.
Peace
jagfug
PS I'm out of the game now, but Dagobert shall live in infamy! ;)
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Just recieved latest BM batch. It is, indeed, noticably lighter colour than previously.
That being said, anhydrous acetone wash still removes a bit of weight. I'd like to know what changed in post rxn. workup that still wasn't as effective as acetone.
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Hey guys. Are there any Aussies in here?
I'm curious about which vendors are successful in shipping to Australia. I've got a few vendors in mind but I'm not sure about their success rate. If anyone could PM me some info, I'd be grateful.
-AussiePP
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That being said, anhydrous acetone wash still removes a bit of weight. I'd like to know what changed in post rxn. workup that still wasn't as effective as acetone.
How much weight did you lose? I'm gonna get this batch lab tested so we'll find out what's what 8)
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6%. I didn't vacuum filter etc. so I assume some of that is mechanical loss, but the marked discoloration completely disappears after wash.
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Im thinking of placing a order of speed, but dont know who i should buy from just yet. CC and BM are both out of the question because their countries doesnt ship well to mine. Im trying to choose between Arnachy and Dagobert, which both seems to be alright and most importantly it ships from germany which is the best country for me. So ladys and gentlemen, who should i choose? :)
I can speak for Dagobert. Well, he's a veteran SR'er! Very decent speed. I believe I saw a test where the purity wasn't great.
But if it's important for it to be domestic Germany. Go for it!
He was one of my first purchases on here.. Dagobert is a good guy. Especially friendly to his fellow countrymen!
I'd say at least 7 or 8 orders to me in US. All good. Only once one got lost. I let it go, since I knew it was no fault of his own.
Peace
jagfug
PS I'm out of the game now, but Dagobert shall live in infamy! ;)
I have to FE with Dagobert, which really really puts me off. Too bad because i would probably have gone with him otherwise.
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I'm surprised, for Germany to Germany I thought he said no FE. - I DID always FE, I think one time I made a big deal about it, and he let me go escrow, but after that, even though I had experience with him, I FE. - He's pretty dependable. Like I said, the one time it got lost, I took the loss, because I knew he was on top of things. - It's a risk you'll have to be willing to assume.
Have you checked BestDutchDirect ? Not sure of them, but I believe they ship from Germany. I had their stuff once and it was acceptable.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
If it's like $50 for the order, I'd still take the chance. Dagobert hasn't been around this long for nothing.
Good luck.
Sorry I couldn't give you a definitive answer.
In the end. It's all a risk.
- jagfug
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Hey girls and boys,
It seems I have restored my body a bit and want to say something to the post a few pages back where someone took 250mg of BMs current/last batch.
DO NOT DO THIS! this amph is really a strong one. And if you take this much at once you will not get more euphoria or a better feeling you will just have a horrible horrible comedown and carving for more.
I tried the Mercury speed and it is top notch NL oldschool paste if someone is old enough to remember the yellow batches from the '90s in the EU. This is exactly the stuff you know. The smell the texture the feeling ... great speed. Props Merc. You can go party with it and fuck like a champ.
On the other hand BM. I got the waxy one and the last fine powder. BMs is simply much much stronger and cleaner in the feeling but dont let you get fooled by the clean feeling. It will destroy your brain if you overdo it. (I tried it. took about a gram over a few days with no sleep.)
Long story short do your homework and know your body. We have some nice products here on the road. I like both the NL paste and the ultra BM. But remember to have some spare braincells left. Every bit of amph cost you some... ,-) Nasty shit our loved stimulant is.
take care
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Ok guys just wanna chime in here, been a repeat customer of the great BM for some time now. Everything has been fine until now. Recently made a purchase which never turned up, i have messaged BM multiple times with no response after a while so now i just want to let you guys know what happened. I made the purchase and once it was out of the normal time frame in which i usually receive i then messaged BM asking what was up as i saw many other people had gotten no shows as well. He informed me that his guy hadn't sent out orders during the time my order was made so i then asked for a full refund as i should be entitled to seeing as my package was never sent and i have the message from BM saying so. During that time i was dealing with events that i was unable to get internet access and so my order autofinalized an hour or so before i could get onto SR so the funds were released. He hasn't responded to any of my messages unfortunately so i feel this will be the last time i order from him :( all i wanted was a reship or a refund or even a message back but nothing.....i don't know why he would choose to do this as settling this situation would be more beneficial to him than to have lost a customer...
I will give BM some more time to get back to me now that i have posted this otherwise i will be changing my feedback to reflect the situation
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I'm surprised, for Germany to Germany I thought he said no FE. - I DID always FE, I think one time I made a big deal about it, and he let me go escrow, but after that, even though I had experience with him, I FE. - He's pretty dependable. Like I said, the one time it got lost, I took the loss, because I knew he was on top of things. - It's a risk you'll have to be willing to assume.
Have you checked BestDutchDirect ? Not sure of them, but I believe they ship from Germany. I had their stuff once and it was acceptable.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
If it's like $50 for the order, I'd still take the chance. Dagobert hasn't been around this long for nothing.
Good luck.
Sorry I couldn't give you a definitive answer.
In the end. It's all a risk.
- jagfug
Im not from germany tho :) And its like 150-200 dollar order. Hmm gotta keep thinking about which one to go with haha
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Gaah... i wish i Afterhour had 10/20g listings. I love his speed. Damnit...
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Ok guys just wanna chime in here, been a repeat customer of the great BM for some time now. Everything has been fine until now. Recently made a purchase which never turned up, i have messaged BM multiple times with no response after a while so now i just want to let you guys know what happened. I made the purchase and once it was out of the normal time frame in which i usually receive i then messaged BM asking what was up as i saw many other people had gotten no shows as well. He informed me that his guy hadn't sent out orders during the time my order was made so i then asked for a full refund as i should be entitled to seeing as my package was never sent and i have the message from BM saying so. During that time i was dealing with events that i was unable to get internet access and so my order autofinalized an hour or so before i could get onto SR so the funds were released. He hasn't responded to any of my messages unfortunately so i feel this will be the last time i order from him :( all i wanted was a reship or a refund or even a message back but nothing.....i don't know why he would choose to do this as settling this situation would be more beneficial to him than to have lost a customer...
I will give BM some more time to get back to me now that i have posted this otherwise i will be changing my feedback to reflect the situation
Thanks, that actually puts my mind at ease--when I asked for a 5 day extension BM canceled my order and refunded my money--never let me know why. Didn't make any sense for him not to just give me the extension since it had only been 2 weeks and I was still expecting it to show... now I know that I'm still 100% from the address I was using and it's not flagged or anything. That no show has been in the back of my mind bugging me for the last couple weeks.
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good to see someones mind has been put at ease by this! WHY BM WHYYYYYY? I WAS SO HAPPY WITH YOU
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Vendor: JohnnyDeal (Germany)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/8969302e8d
I've received speed paste from JohnnyDeal and it's awesome!
Turned to 'in transit' as promised and arrived safe, vac sealed.
Great energy - product works as good as it smells! Dries very fast.
Very friendly seller and very high purity! I strongly recommend JohnnyDeal to deal with!
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Repost from the Newbie Section, Review by yaggayagga:
Hi guys, just wanted to leave a quick Review for my first domestic Speed purchase here, since 90% of this Thread is either about BM/CC or personal Stories. Not that i dont like personal stories and its no offense, but its hard to find Reviews for other Vendors in here without scrolling through 20 pages just to find about maybe 5 non BM/CC related Reviews.
Vendor: MethylonDE
My first purchase on SR so im going to write a rather detailed Feedback.
Delivery Speed: arrived 2 days after order domestic, pretty much as fast as possible. 5/5
Packaging: Product in a Baggy, Baggy in a Vacuum Seal. Perfect 5/5
Communication: None needed. Adress sended while ordering as an encrypted PGP message, 2 days later you have a smile on your face. 5/5
Product:
First Look: Surprised a little at first look, since i was expecting the snow white Product you see in the picture, in fact its more into the yellowish to orange/brownish color, but hey i am new to SR and its not Amazon in the end. Never had this buying locally but its probablly depending on the synthesize routine used.
Product is dry/powder as subscribed, with a very slight amount of moist left. Pretty much perfect for sniffing right away.
The smell is medicore and a very familiar smell. Medium nose burn, had stuff in the past that had much harder nose burn.
Quality: I had a longer break from speed so my tolerance is pretty much down to zero, thats why i just took a small line for now but i can feel it coming already. I guess its decent quality for the price. Not high end but he doesnt promote this anyway like other offers here (which judging by reading some forum posts and feedbacks isnt true in most cases anyway).
I might give an update later on the quality, for now it seems to be pretty good for the price, big plus that its already dry, so you get what you pay for. If you are looking for dried/powder domestic speed definitely give this vendor a try.
Overall a solid 5/5."
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Ok guys just wanna chime in here, been a repeat customer of the great BM for some time now. Everything has been fine until now. Recently made a purchase which never turned up, i have messaged BM multiple times with no response after a while so now i just want to let you guys know what happened. I made the purchase and once it was out of the normal time frame in which i usually receive i then messaged BM asking what was up as i saw many other people had gotten no shows as well. He informed me that his guy hadn't sent out orders during the time my order was made so i then asked for a full refund as i should be entitled to seeing as my package was never sent and i have the message from BM saying so. During that time i was dealing with events that i was unable to get internet access and so my order autofinalized an hour or so before i could get onto SR so the funds were released. He hasn't responded to any of my messages unfortunately so i feel this will be the last time i order from him :( all i wanted was a reship or a refund or even a message back but nothing.....i don't know why he would choose to do this as settling this situation would be more beneficial to him than to have lost a customer...
I will give BM some more time to get back to me now that i have posted this otherwise i will be changing my feedback to reflect the situation
Thanks, that actually puts my mind at ease--when I asked for a 5 day extension BM canceled my order and refunded my money--never let me know why. Didn't make any sense for him not to just give me the extension since it had only been 2 weeks and I was still expecting it to show... now I know that I'm still 100% from the address I was using and it's not flagged or anything. That no show has been in the back of my mind bugging me for the last couple weeks.
My first order from BM arrived today (sent on Monday), so no problems there. Product smells really caustic though...not very inviting to snort.
I have a low tolerance but overall I'm pretty underwhelmed by narcotics. Should 50mg be o.k. for a few hours of buzzing?
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To all my USA customers. I will be back in less than a week with more Speed. Sorry for the long break.. It was unplanned.
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To all my USA customers. I will be back in less than a week with more Speed. Sorry for the long break.. It was unplanned.
That's great! Very excited to have the opportunity to purchase US-US again as I'm not particularly interested in the meth pills floating around the domestic speed section.
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ive got also my first order from BM today and i will buy again for sure! i just can say its fire...VULCANO 8)
the best stuff ive ever had, big thanks to BM... :-) he´s the man!
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Anyone mind chiming in on whether I should go with BM (his new stuff) or CC? Ive never had actual amph powder before, although Ive had my (and several others) share of adderall and meth, so I def have noticeable tolerance (not necessarily huge, but enough to consider).
CC just put some listings up and I see based on this thread he doesnt frequently have product available for purchase. Also if I remember correctly, BM said he was gonna relist some stuff mid-end June.
sooo, Im just looking for some recommendations as to whether or not I should grab some stuff from CC now or wait for BM to relist his stuff. Ideally Id order from both but cash is a bit tight and for me, quality > quantity when it comes to this product, so Im looking to grab the best stuff offered of the two. thanks
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My first order from BM arrived today (sent on Monday), so no problems there. Product smells really caustic though...not very inviting to snort.
I have a low tolerance but overall I'm pretty underwhelmed by narcotics. Should 50mg be o.k. for a few hours of buzzing?
I'd start with half that, or even less. 25mg gets me pretty amped for several hours, 50mg would be too much for me too take at once unless I was drinking.
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With no CC or BM listings.. looking to buy 5g of whatever.. got $87 on SR.
Who the heck to buy from?
Mercury31? Space Factory? Anarchy? Stoeprand 10g = $80..
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I got to BM before he ran out thank God lol. This will be my first time trying any Amps that are not pharmaceutical grade (basically just did adderall and its generics). I will compare his stuff to adderall when I receive/try it.
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With no CC or BM listings.. looking to buy 5g of whatever.. got $87 on SR.
Who the heck to buy from?
Mercury31? Space Factory? Anarchy? Stoeprand 10g = $80..
Just trying to help: As of me posting this right now, CC does have his listings up. He would be my 2nd choice after BM, I have heard only good things about his product.
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Got a sample from Mercury31 about a month ago, this stuff was great, have still something left. Right now i only see paste on his profile, but the sample has been dry as hell.
Although got a sample from JonnyDeal. This has been the wettest stuff i´ve ever seen, but it dried in an unbelievable short amount of time. It´s white as snow, strong, almost as strong as the stuff i had from BM and CC, and much much better for the nose. Sadly JD has no listings up right now.
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Last night I got a chance to try speed from Budworx UK.
It arrived as a completely drenched paste.. The wettest I've ever seen from SR. Upon drying it lost over 50% weight which was disappointing. It's a bit of a misleading listing.
As for the high, after taking BM and CC gear lots recently I gotta say you could really notice the caffeine edginess pretty quickly after railing but once that subsides you can feel the amp. The pure sulphate high is much more calm compared to this paste. I don't drink coffee either so probably more sensitive to caffeine.
I would only purchase this speed if CC or BM weren't available.
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Anyone mind chiming in on whether I should go with BM (his new stuff) or CC? Ive never had actual amph powder before, although Ive had my (and several others) share of adderall and meth, so I def have noticeable tolerance (not necessarily huge, but enough to consider).
CC just put some listings up and I see based on this thread he doesnt frequently have product available for purchase. Also if I remember correctly, BM said he was gonna relist some stuff mid-end June.
sooo, Im just looking for some recommendations as to whether or not I should grab some stuff from CC now or wait for BM to relist his stuff. Ideally Id order from both but cash is a bit tight and for me, quality > quantity when it comes to this product, so Im looking to grab the best stuff offered of the two. thanks
You can not go wrong with the amph from CC and BM. The only concern I would have with CC is the long delivery time and the country he sends from. But he is a nice guy, if you write him he responds fast to your possibly concerns. I think no one ever complained about his stuff.
BM is sending very fast good quality speed. When I got this speed, my friends want always want some to try, because they dont use sr and are used to street piss shit. It amazes us every time how pure it is and how less you have to snort to gett a clean buzz knowing you didnt just snort some crushed caffeine pills with speed.
I would go with quality. Luckily we have two great honest vendors delivering great quality amphetamine.
That being said, when is BM coming back with his next batch? Anyone got any news?
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^^ Last word from BM is he's returning in the second half of this month and as well as the new batch he is also bringing with him upgraded stealth!
It could be any day now :)
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Yay, Finally got CC's after only 11 days to S0uthAm3rica.
The stealth is ok, nicely vac sealed, envelope very discrete.
The product itself came very dry, in small chunks and in powder. The smell is not strong. And to me it appears slightly pink.
I ordered 10g and split it with a friend. I'll write a proper review in a week maybe, because I've been using Amps and other drugs so id like to lower the tolerance a bit to judge it better.
At least today after being awake for 24hs I had to drive home, before getting into the car I took a cap with 27mg. The first half hour I was in a really sleepy and tired mood, almost bump into other cars 3 times, blinking took me like 2 seconds and 4 more to focus properly, I was really really sleepy (had some GBL some hours prior) but the amps started to act after 35minutes and I was totally alert again, as i had just woken up and had my coffee. Its been 3 hours since driving and I am feeling as If i had slept the entire night, no sweating, no tachycardia or any heavy bodyload. So it seems promising :)
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My first order from BM arrived today (sent on Monday), so no problems there. Product smells really caustic though...not very inviting to snort.
I have a low tolerance but overall I'm pretty underwhelmed by narcotics. Should 50mg be o.k. for a few hours of buzzing?
I'd start with half that, or even less. 25mg gets me pretty amped for several hours, 50mg would be too much for me too take at once unless I was drinking.
Ok, thanks for the tip.
Can anyone comment on the caustic smell thing of his last batch? Pure sulphate shouldn't smell at all so it must be some waste product. Problems or just a bad smell?
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Mercury's Auction
a Great taste package!!
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=173039.msg1243267#msg1243267
regards,mercury31
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Hi everyone,
I'm back with a new supply (finally) after I receive the smell proof bags, the listings will come up.
Cheers
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Hi everyone,
I'm back with a new supply (finally) after I receive the smell proof bags, the listings will come up.
Cheers
is it a similar synth route as the stuff you had a few months back?
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Hi everyone,
I'm back with a new supply (finally) after I receive the smell proof bags, the listings will come up.
Cheers
Welcome Back!
missed your listings, always had good business with you.
Will keep an eye on your stuff.
greetz
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Hi everyone,
I'm back with a new supply (finally) after I receive the smell proof bags, the listings will come up.
Cheers
is it a similar synth route as the stuff you had a few months back?
This is from phenyl-2-propanone. The first batch I had also come from this precursor. The other from norephedrine. (second one)
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Hi everyone,
I'm back with a new supply (finally) after I receive the smell proof bags, the listings will come up.
Cheers
Heard really good things about your speed.
Any chance of international shipping this time around?
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Hi everyone,
I'm back with a new supply (finally) after I receive the smell proof bags, the listings will come up.
Cheers
Heard really good things about your speed.
Any chance of international shipping this time around?
I'm considering this an option. Best way to get it through customs is in a smell resistant bag I'd guess.
If so, I don't see any reason why not to send it overseas.
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Hi everyone,
I'm back with a new supply (finally) after I receive the smell proof bags, the listings will come up.
Cheers
Heard really good things about your speed.
Any chance of international shipping this time around?
I'm considering this an option. Best way to get it through customs is in a smell resistant bag I'd guess.
If so, I don't see any reason why not to send it overseas.
Ooooooh I might get on that too!
I like trying different speed. I've read good things about you, so I'm sure it isn't cut heavily with caffeine, as some vendors on here have done.
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The product is vacuumdistilled and no caffeine is added afterwards.
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I swear iisthisisis always did international shipping
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I swear iisthisisis always did international shipping
I thought it was EU only?
I might be thinking of another vendor though.
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I swear iisthisisis always did international shipping
I thought it was EU only?
I might be thinking of another vendor though.
No, you're correct. My shipping policy was EU only, but with recent developments I think I should spread my wings and cover the visible universe.
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Lucky me, CC listings appeared like a minute after I was looking to purchase. Lets see what 21 days clean gives me. Need the smooth magic back, I've got a date damnit. CC stuff is the only shiz that no one can tell I'm on anything.
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CC you've made me miss BM more than I ever thought I would.
CC ord placed Monday June 3rd. Marked 'in transit' Friday June 7th. Apparently overwhelmed with 3 days of orders, I got put off from Monday till Friday.
Sorry but I kind of get used to the turnaround times of the past. So, OK, It went out Friday June 7th.
Well here I am June 17th hoping it's coming today.
See with Boymaster, I would've had my shit by now.
I can barely type I'm so retarded from this withdraw.
[Edit] Update; - All is well in the world (for me :D) CC's beautiful orange- hued speed arrived today. - Tragedy averted!
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Took up too 200mg of Bm's speed (oral) by mistaking the product for somone elses, shit fucks you up could not sleep for 20+ hours, i dont do speed much, very rarely any health issues this could have on me?
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Insanity, CC goes back up and then IIS reappears? The latter vendor sold the purist stuff ever tested here.
It's going to be a hell of a summer, kids.
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Took up too 200mg of Bm's speed (oral) by mistaking the product for somone elses, shit fucks you up could not sleep for 20+ hours, i dont do speed much, very rarely any health issues this could have on me?
Don't worry, you should be fine. Make sure you eat well (fresh, non processed food, a lot of veggies) and sleep at least 8 hours a day.
Your body had to work on the highest gear for 20+ hours, that's like a Le Mans race. Give it time and supplies to regenerate :)
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I am wondering why there is no vendor offering d-isomer of amphetamine.
Is it difficult to produce a 100% dextroamphetamine or at least 75% D 25%L?
I guess it has to do with the precusors, but maybe someone more knowledgable could elaborate?
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Did someone test "[]== SPEED PASTE!!! 55-60% [][] 50g [][] ==[]" from AfterHour?
Coz i cannot find if so. Would like to know if it´s really 50% or more of the 50% which Powerade provided (23%).
Does anyone know?
-Acen
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Hello everybody
Today I have been to the dentist and he made some X-rays from my denture.
He compared this X-rays with the X-rays from 2010 and difference was huge.
There were gaps between my teeth due to caries. And this caries is the result from using amphetamine the last three years.
I didn't used it everyday but I guess 50 % of the time sometimes with binging.
So my girlfriend and I decided to quiet using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
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Hello everybody
Today I have been to the dentist and he made some X-rays from my denture.
He compared this X-rays with the X-rays from 2010 and difference was huge.
There were gaps between my teeth due to caries. And this caries is the result from using amphetamine the last three years.
I didn't used it everyday but I guess 50 % of the time sometimes with binging.
So my girlfriend and I decided to quiet using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
but do you really need teeth? they aren't that important
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Hello everybody
Today I have been to the dentist and he made some X-rays from my denture.
He compared this X-rays with the X-rays from 2010 and difference was huge.
There were gaps between my teeth due to caries. And this caries is the result from using amphetamine the last three years.
I didn't used it everyday but I guess 50 % of the time sometimes with binging.
So my girlfriend and I decided to quiet using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
Good for you for quitting speed. But you could have posted that leftover speed to me :P
I never use it more than once a week so I've never had any issues with it or my teeth. I plan on keeping it this way so I minimise the chance of anything happening.
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Review of iisthisisi dl-amphetamine
I saw a letter in my mailbox on Friday, it looked like ordinary letter but I already knew what was in there as soon as I saw it came from Netherlands. I received a sample of 500mg dl-amphetamine.
I opened up the letter, the packaging and stealth is good in my opinion. The product looked really white like snow almost blinding. The powder was dry and fluffy. Unfortunately I didn’t have precise scales so I had to eyeball the dosage. It’s been a while since I’ve done any type of stimulant but I knew my tolerance wont be very low due to previous high doses of methamphetamine use. So I eyeballed about 30-60mg and put the powder in a spoon added water (I wanted to inject first just to see how the rush feels like) and well it was very quick and pleasurable not too much euphoria and no side-effects so I knew it wasn’t cut and it was pure amphetamine.
I proceeded to use this amphetamine for 2-3 days straight till it was gone. I also snorted it – gave a rush too. I could see that this is top quality product, not cut, just like iisthisisi previous product - 72% dl-amphetamine (which by the lab results was purest amphetamine on Silkroad).
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Hello everybody
Today I have been to the dentist and he made some X-rays from my denture.
He compared this X-rays with the X-rays from 2010 and difference was huge.
There were gaps between my teeth due to caries. And this caries is the result from using amphetamine the last three years.
I didn't used it everyday but I guess 50 % of the time sometimes with binging.
So my girlfriend and I decided to quiet using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
this is relevant to me, what about receding gums? Did you suffer any?
Thanks for posting and props for quitting.
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Hello everybody
Today I have been to the dentist and he made some X-rays from my denture.
He compared this X-rays with the X-rays from 2010 and difference was huge.
There were gaps between my teeth due to caries. And this caries is the result from using amphetamine the last three years.
I didn't used it everyday but I guess 50 % of the time sometimes with binging.
So my girlfriend and I decided to quiet using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
I've wondered about the specific causes between tooth decay and (meth)amphetamines. Not sure if it is that stim users don't brush their teeth or dry mouth or changed chemistry in the mouth for example.
Regardless, congrats on moving past stimulant drugs.
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Hello everybody
Today I have been to the dentist and he made some X-rays from my denture.
He compared this X-rays with the X-rays from 2010 and difference was huge.
There were gaps between my teeth due to caries. And this caries is the result from using amphetamine the last three years.
I didn't used it everyday but I guess 50 % of the time sometimes with binging.
So my girlfriend and I decided to quiet using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
I've wondered about the specific causes between tooth decay and (meth)amphetamines. Not sure if it is that stim users don't brush their teeth or dry mouth or changed chemistry in the mouth for example.
Regardless, congrats on moving past stimulant drugs.
@slirp: For the last sentence: +1!
;-)
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Hello everybody
Today I have been to the dentist and he made some X-rays from my denture.
He compared this X-rays with the X-rays from 2010 and difference was huge.
There were gaps between my teeth due to caries. And this caries is the result from using amphetamine the last three years.
I didn't used it everyday but I guess 50 % of the time sometimes with binging.
So my girlfriend and I decided to quiet using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
I've wondered about the specific causes between tooth decay and (meth)amphetamines. Not sure if it is that stim users don't brush their teeth or dry mouth or changed chemistry in the mouth for example.
Regardless, congrats on moving past stimulant drugs.
I have read somewhere that the dry mouth is bad for dental hygiene, so I'm sure it can't help. Also the teeth grinding / clenching wouldn't help.
I grind my teeth on MDMA, but for speed it's more of a jaw clench / lock. Which can get painful the next day. Does anyone else find this too? Or is it just teeth grinding?
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I had kinda same problems, but still not enough to quit xD
I think you can reduce the amphetamine damage greatly anyway if
- take oral (put in a capsule) instead of snorting
- wash your teeth at least 2x days
- use cleaning solution 3x days
- MOST IMPORTANT (that I forget regularly) clean between your teeth with the micro-brush
I managed to reduce greatly the numbers of caries, probably generated from amphetamines
ps: this is not an advertise to continue with speed, just as informative post ;)
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Last night I got a chance to try speed from Budworx UK.
It arrived as a completely drenched paste.. The wettest I've ever seen from SR. Upon drying it lost over 50% weight which was disappointing. It's a bit of a misleading listing.
As for the high, after taking BM and CC gear lots recently I gotta say you could really notice the caffeine edginess pretty quickly after railing but once that subsides you can feel the amp. The pure sulphate high is much more calm compared to this paste. I don't drink coffee either so probably more sensitive to caffeine.
From this experience I would leave budworx speed as a last resort.
Hello there,
Sorry that you did not have a good experience in ordering from us. When its in a pure paste form its meant to be kept in the freezer. We shouldn't have sent it out as pure as we did, we have since allowed it some time and is now perfectly set in its pure form and is rocket fuel. We suggest that if you add some powdered glucose to dilute the strength if you are not used to its purity.
Here are some reviews we have had since its setting, and one that received the paste:
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"Another successful transaction with Budworx, by far the most reliable vendor I've dealt with. Cheers!"
"All Good ,Happy Days ..., ./ /"
"Mate, Mate, Mate, Fucking fuck yes. funny thing
is I'd already been on the trot with a bit of OK paste off and on over the weekend, it was decent but no comparison, esp w/ energy level and focus. But as soon as I caught site of this you could tell its a whole different tweaking kettle of tweaky fish altogether. The steaths good and that, nice and legit looking only thing I'd say without trying to give anything away, it's it's really wet.like you can swim in it, and that wet is stinky as all fuck. The good kind of stink tho, not the bullshit kind. Some people reckon dryer stuff is better cause you get more weight, I always thought wet seemed better, fresher. not decomposed or whatever.
But yer, when you open it up your house starts fuming like some sort of petrol station quick smart :)
Anyway, couldn't tell any smell in the post tho.
I'm fucking beaming off this stuff, and maybe chatting a bit much. it's great. I just wish I'd gotten some buds as well before sleepy time. I thought I'd have some saved before this come, but no, just an austerity joint or maybe a bucket. Will enjoy it anyway. and sort it out some green too next time. Cheers, top work mate." - This guy is in a far away country and we sent him prior setting like yourself.
"Wonderful speed & delivery so quick- thank you"
"Excellent, friendly speedy service. Very impressed"
"Arrived Internationally on time, amazing stealth and lovely product. Thanks Heaps"
"fast deliv, good bit of gear!"
"Top seller - Very Professional! "
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If you care to message us on SR to confirm who you are and we will send you a few grams on the house (of the set hardened product of course), sorry again that you were not satisfied with the product.
Kind regards
Bud
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I had kinda same problems, but still not enough to quit xD
I think you can reduce the amphetamine damage greatly anyway if
- take oral (put in a capsule) instead of snorting
- wash your teeth at least 2x days
- use cleaning solution 3x days
- MOST IMPORTANT (that I forget regularly) clean between your teeth with the micro-brush
I managed to reduce greatly the numbers of caries, probably generated from amphetamines
ps: this is not an advertise to continue with speed, just as informative post ;)
you both could give oil pulling a try too
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Hello everybody
Today I have been to the dentist and he made some X-rays from my denture.
He compared this X-rays with the X-rays from 2010 and difference was huge.
There were gaps between my teeth due to caries. And this caries is the result from using amphetamine the last three years.
I didn't used it everyday but I guess 50 % of the time sometimes with binging.
So my girlfriend and I decided to quiet using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
I've wondered about the specific causes between tooth decay and (meth)amphetamines. Not sure if it is that stim users don't brush their teeth or dry mouth or changed chemistry in the mouth for example.
Regardless, congrats on moving past stimulant drugs.
I have read somewhere that the dry mouth is bad for dental hygiene, so I'm sure it can't help. Also the teeth grinding / clenching wouldn't help.
I grind my teeth on MDMA, but for speed it's more of a jaw clench / lock. Which can get painful the next day. Does anyone else find this too? Or is it just teeth grinding?
I get more of a lock-jaw with mephedrone while I get grinding with MDMA so I think I know what you mean. I take low doses of Adderall on a regular basis but haven't ever used a high dose of speed so can't comment on that specifically but guessing my experience would be like yours.
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I've seen someone said that he looks at the karma first and then decides wether to read the post. I'm trying to be helpful i have my own opinion and defend it even though for someone it might seem crazy for example "I have problems with crack" - my answer "try injecting cocaine, because it leaves you more satisfied and with a stronger rush and longer high and with less craving" or something like that, that is just my opinion from experience - new years shooting pretty pure cocaine and after quarter of gram not wanting anymore because my head hurts from strong bellringers, so i decide to quit the session.
Now i wrote a review it is my second how do you like it ? is it informative ? has anyone read it ? where should I improve ? Any questions? I received this amphetamine early in vacuum, I know iisthisisi is waiting for some new bags.
Also english is not my first language so some posts might sound strange/funny but i can't help it.
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I've seen someone said that he looks at the karma first and then decides wether to read the post. I'm trying to be helpful i have my own opinion and defend it even though for someone it might seem crazy for example "I have problems with crack" - my answer "try injecting cocaine, because it leaves you more satisfied and with a stronger rush and longer high and with less craving" or something like that, that is just my opinion from experience - new years shooting pretty pure cocaine and after quarter of gram not wanting anymore because my head hurts from strong bellringers, so i decide to quit the session.
Now i wrote a review it is my second how do you like it ? is it informative ? has anyone read it ? where should I improve ? Any questions? I received this amphetamine early in vacuum, I know iisthisisi is waiting for some new bags.
Also english is not my first language so some posts might sound strange/funny but i can't help it.
I appreciate your review, thanks but I'm just a little bitter that you got to try iisthisis new batch before me. IMHO he is up there with both capecrusader and boymaster
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I've seen someone said that he looks at the karma first and then decides wether to read the post. I'm trying to be helpful i have my own opinion and defend it even though for someone it might seem crazy for example "I have problems with crack" - my answer "try injecting cocaine, because it leaves you more satisfied and with a stronger rush and longer high and with less craving" or something like that, that is just my opinion from experience - new years shooting pretty pure cocaine and after quarter of gram not wanting anymore because my head hurts from strong bellringers, so i decide to quit the session.
Now i wrote a review it is my second how do you like it ? is it informative ? has anyone read it ? where should I improve ? Any questions? I received this amphetamine early in vacuum, I know iisthisisi is waiting for some new bags.
Also english is not my first language so some posts might sound strange/funny but i can't help it.
I appreciate your review, thanks but I'm just a little bitter that you got to try iisthisis new batch before me. IMHO he is up there with both capecrusader and boymaster
The batch is fine but strangely I got a headache from shooting it. It passed in 5 minutes, I expected to get non-euphoric cold rush to the brain just interesting why the headache..
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I've seen someone said that he looks at the karma first and then decides wether to read the post. I'm trying to be helpful i have my own opinion and defend it even though for someone it might seem crazy for example "I have problems with crack" - my answer "try injecting cocaine, because it leaves you more satisfied and with a stronger rush and longer high and with less craving" or something like that, that is just my opinion from experience - new years shooting pretty pure cocaine and after quarter of gram not wanting anymore because my head hurts from strong bellringers, so i decide to quit the session.
Now i wrote a review it is my second how do you like it ? is it informative ? has anyone read it ? where should I improve ? Any questions? I received this amphetamine early in vacuum, I know iisthisisi is waiting for some new bags.
Also english is not my first language so some posts might sound strange/funny but i can't help it.
I just gave you a +1.
Also, your English appears to be better than most 20 year old American kids nowadays.
I can't say I would recommend injecting cocaine to a person with a crack problem but you seem sincere so I respect your opinion on that example.
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Somehow i cant find issthisisi on SR, could someone please post a link to his/her vendor page?
Thanks in advance ;)
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Somehow i cant find issthisisi on SR, could someone please post a link to his/her vendor page?
Thanks in advance ;)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/867d33d2f6 - he hasn't listed it yet, he said he's waiting for smell proof bags.
That sample I tested I got some time ago and been holding review to post when he comes back.
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Hello everybody
Today I have been to the dentist and he made some X-rays from my denture.
He compared this X-rays with the X-rays from 2010 and difference was huge.
There were gaps between my teeth due to caries. And this caries is the result from using amphetamine the last three years.
I didn't used it everyday but I guess 50 % of the time sometimes with binging.
So my girlfriend and I decided to quiet using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
Just wanted to clarify- amphetamine itself does not cause cavities (dental caries)
Rather, cavities are a side effect of dry mouth from taking amphetamines.
How cavities form is lactobactillus bacteria eat sugars in your mouth and produce lactic acid, which eats away at the minerals on your teeth.
Your saliva remineralizes your teeth and fights bacteria. Dry mouth = less saliva = more prone to cavities.
So this can be prevented. Of course your dentist has told you this but it applies *especially* when taking amphetamines:
- avoid sugary drinks & candy
- chew sugarfree gum after eating (promotes saliva production and removes sugar from crevices)
- avoid acidic foods (lemons, oranges, vinaigrettes, etc)
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Any Aussies gotten multiple successful speed from overseas vendors? I keep getting my first test shipment and the seccessive larger orders never arrive. Stinks of selective scamming so would love to hear from fellow aussies of credible vendors. +Karma and BTC rewards! PM me kthx
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Review Appreciated grdr.
I always had good deals with the seller you reviewed as well ;)
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Any Aussies gotten multiple successful speed from overseas vendors? I keep getting my first test shipment and the seccessive larger orders never arrive. Stinks of selective scamming so would love to hear from fellow aussies of credible vendors. +Karma and BTC rewards! PM me kthx
Yea, happens a fair bit. Just order 5gm or less IMO. Lots of little orders and you should be fine.
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may I bring to your attention:
müslix ❤ raven! Special thanks to BM who arranged our marriage!
DOH' :D a new love story is born.
grats Müslix :D
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Comparing BM's Amp. to Adderall (first time doing any amp. that was not from a pharmacy):
Feels exactly like adderall to me. I don't think I could tell the difference between the two, except for one small factor. That factor being that after the "high" goes away, the stimulation from BM's Amp. lasted longer (which I am sure is from it containing more of the L isomer than adderall).
A huge plus on doing BM's Amp. (besides the obvious price difference): There is soooo much less powder you have to rail (or take orally). I read somewhere that with all the fillers and binders mixed with adderall, that it is only about 20% pure (amphetamine) by weight.
A little negative on doing BM's Amp.: Feels far more damaging to the nose. My nose started bleeding (not gushing, but whenever I blew it into a tissue, there was blood) during the later part of both of my sessions.
Overall: It is a very, very, very (yes three "very's", lol) solid alternative. I don't think I could do just speed because of the increased damage via insufflation, but it is definitely awesome for times when there is no adderall around.
Thank you BM & DPR 8)
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Comparing BM's Amp. to Adderall (first time doing any amp. that was not from a pharmacy):
Feels exactly like adderall to me. I don't think I could tell the difference between the two, except for one small factor. That factor being that after the "high" goes away, the stimulation from BM's Amp. lasted longer (which I am sure is from it containing more of the L isomer than adderall).
A huge plus on doing BM's Amp. (besides the obvious price difference): There is soooo much less powder you have to rail (or take orally). I read somewhere that with all the fillers and binders mixed with adderall, that it is only about 20% pure (amphetamine) by weight.
A little negative on doing BM's Amp.: Feels far more damaging to the nose. My nose started bleeding (not gushing, but whenever I blew it into a tissue, there was blood) during the later part of both of my sessions.
Overall: It is a very, very, very (yes three "very's", lol) solid alternative. I don't think I could do just speed because of the increased damage via insufflation, but it is definitely awesome for times when there is no adderall around.
Thank you BM & DPR 8)
Yeah man, you should cap BM or CC's stuff, or parachute it if you don't have caps--pure amphetamine like theirs will seriously fuck up your nasal cavity much quicker than you'd think (I got sinusitis this winter and had nose bleeds like a mofo a couple weeks ago when I drunkenly thought it would be a good idea to start railing it again).
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Somehow i cant find issthisisi on SR, could someone please post a link to his/her vendor page?
Thanks in advance ;)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/867d33d2f6 - he hasn't listed it yet, he said he's waiting for smell proof bags.
That sample I tested I got some time ago and been holding review to post when he comes back.
Is issthisisi based is Europe? If so I guess I'll wait for his listings.
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So my girlfriend and I decided to quit using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
So will I. Some final secrets revealed: BM's speed is bought P2NP, just as Cape's (but not bought) so buy the latter or even better go for isi's PPA-based amph.
Thanks to everyone for the nice time I had on the road: isi, cape, valentine, 12345, hellhazz, knomo, cleveland, speedie, jack, caffeine, and all I forgot.
vendors: don't ship to Austria.
Goodbye SR, was fun while it lasted.
For everyone who wants to play BM, go to sites like this: http://p2np.com/ and ask for custom synthesis, you will get yellowish BM speed. Good night and good fight.
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So my girlfriend and I decided to quit using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
So will I. Some final secrets revealed: BM's speed is bought P2NP, just as Cape's so buy the latter or even better go for isi's PPA-based amph.
What do you mean? I see that P2NP is a precursor for methampheamine and can be reduces to amphetamine.
vendors: don't ship to Austria.
Did you have a package get caught and get in trouble?
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For all of my USA customers... I am running a discount on my products for a limited time!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/3ab28d5a29
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Hello everybody
Today I have been to the dentist and he made some X-rays from my denture.
He compared this X-rays with the X-rays from 2010 and difference was huge.
There were gaps between my teeth due to caries. And this caries is the result from using amphetamine the last three years.
I didn't used it everyday but I guess 50 % of the time sometimes with binging.
So my girlfriend and I decided to quiet using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
Just wanted to clarify- amphetamine itself does not cause cavities (dental caries)
Rather, cavities are a side effect of dry mouth from taking amphetamines.
How cavities form is lactobactillus bacteria eat sugars in your mouth and produce lactic acid, which eats away at the minerals on your teeth.
Your saliva remineralizes your teeth and fights bacteria. Dry mouth = less saliva = more prone to cavities.
So this can be prevented. Of course your dentist has told you this but it applies *especially* when taking amphetamines:
- avoid sugary drinks & candy
- chew sugarfree gum after eating (promotes saliva production and removes sugar from crevices)
- avoid acidic foods (lemons, oranges, vinaigrettes, etc)
grinding of teeth don't help especially in your sleep.
food intake from all carbohydrate sources especially grains deteriorate teeth.
Obviously smoking speed/meth is a quickfire way to denture repair
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Comparing BM's Amp. to Adderall (first time doing any amp. that was not from a pharmacy):
Feels exactly like adderall to me. I don't think I could tell the difference between the two, except for one small factor. That factor being that after the "high" goes away, the stimulation from BM's Amp. lasted longer (which I am sure is from it containing more of the L isomer than adderall).
A huge plus on doing BM's Amp. (besides the obvious price difference): There is soooo much less powder you have to rail (or take orally). I read somewhere that with all the fillers and binders mixed with adderall, that it is only about 20% pure (amphetamine) by weight.
A little negative on doing BM's Amp.: Feels far more damaging to the nose. My nose started bleeding (not gushing, but whenever I blew it into a tissue, there was blood) during the later part of both of my sessions.
Overall: It is a very, very, very (yes three "very's", lol) solid alternative. I don't think I could do just speed because of the increased damage via insufflation, but it is definitely awesome for times when there is no adderall around.
Thank you BM & DPR 8)
You've summed it up very concisely and really brought to the forefront the battle against the 'war on drugs' and how it affects the 'end user', in this case, people like you and I.
I started here 'bout a year ago, but wasn't too keen on this whole forum deal, and still I have my reservations about it all. Though I must say, I wouldn't know what I know today without them.
Everything you've said about that last BM batch was true, but from personal experience, it was a result of the main guy behind BM, trying to fulfill more requests than he imagined possible. (Yes even after the last time).
Those more experienced than I must admit that, at least BM's final FB pages don't show the amount of dissatisfied customers as the 2012-2013 New Year did.
That being said, I expect no less than a total blown away experience from Boymaster. I can't wait for his return! The longer the better, because that means he's assembled an even better team than the one that brought him back from the brink of extinction in the past.
Otherwise, we have the blessed CapeCrusader, which is tied with BM, but for me, is #1, not to kiss ass, just to say that you 'mature' with your speed taste, where the 'jet fuel' isn't necessarily better.
It's really about the D-L side of the molecule, and shit that is above my education level, though I understand it in principle.
OK, that's all for me
Where's all the old timers?
KNOMO, SelfSovereignty, Shamiroquai, Jagfug, and the rest?????????????
Miss the old days. :(
Chip
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So will I. Some final secrets revealed: BM's speed is bought P2NP, just as Cape's so buy the latter or even better go for isi's PPA-based amph.
What do you mean? I see that P2NP is a precursor for methampheamine and can be reduces to amphetamine.
P2NP can directly be reduced to amphSO4. CC and BM is just the same with different purity.
vendors: don't ship to Austria.
Did you have a package get caught and get in trouble?
Not "a" but *all* packages.
@Chip Douglas: the d-l enantiomer ratio of P2NP based amph should be very close to 50/50, nevermind the purity.
The old timers are in the old days, start something new.
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@Chip Douglas: the d-l enantiomer ratio of P2NP based amph should be very close to 50/50, nevermind the purity.
The old timers are in the old days, start something new.
That's what I meant, thanks for explaining it. A little burnt here.
You're one of the old timers!
Come on man, I'm talking about dudes that were posting on here as recently as a month ago!
Just miss some of the old comrades. - Probably hiding in plain sight! ;)
Thanks for the clarification. :)
Chip
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So my girlfriend and I decided to quit using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
So will I. Some final secrets revealed: BM's speed is bought P2NP, just as Cape's (but not bought) so buy the latter or even better go for isi's PPA-based amph.
Thanks to everyone for the nice time I had on the road: isi, cape, valentine, 12345, hellhazz, knomo, cleveland, speedie, jack, caffeine, and all I forgot.
vendors: don't ship to Austria.
Goodbye SR, was fun while it lasted.
For everyone who wants to play BM, go to sites like this: http://p2np.com/ and ask for custom synthesis, you will get yellowish BM speed. Good night and good fight.
Some clarification:
-BM, CC, and isi's amph are almost certainly all reduced from P2NP. In all honesty, using any other method to produce racemic amphetamine is just plain inefficient in terms of precursor cost. I'd say its highly likely they all use the Al/Hg rxn, I've messed around with Urushibara catalysts and they are too finicky to really be worthwhile.(imo)
-Whilst I'm not sure exactly what the reason for the yellowing in BM/CC's speed, its almost certainly a result of the post rxn workup, and not of the rxn itself.
-P2NP cannot be reduced to methamphetamine. It can be reduced to P2P, which can then be reduced to Methamphetamine, but you can't go straight from P2NP to meth.
-If you start from PPA, the resulting yield will be enantiomer specific. i.e. D-Amphetamine rather than racemic amph.
-It's not nearly as easy as it sounds to "play chemist." Especially with amphetamine. One of the required precursors is mercury salts.(HgCl2, Hg2Cl2, or Hg(No3)2) This is rediculously dangerous stuff. Heavy metal poisoning is no joke, and these salts are used due to their solubility in water, but that also means that they will readily absorb through the skin and kill you if you have enough exposure(As low as 0.25g from what I understand.)
Even if you were to follow correct safety procedures with the Hg salts, and managed the rxn, the post reaction workup needs quite a bit of attention to detail to ensure no mercury remains in the final product.
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Waiting for a bit of CC. 18 Days clean, can't say there was any noticeable WD despite having a whopping tolerance nullifying monster doses of 3 different amps.. Should arrive early next week based on previous orders.
I've had a rather dull time, besides the 7 days of scattered cannabis use.
I've got nice week of work coming up, gonna use 4 days and just toke up on some indica off days as it stems any cravings for me. With 21 days clean I figure my tolerance should be near baseline enough to get the spark that makes my ideas bright..
SR tip:
if you need benzos (and you should have if you're using amp), caslava is still selling 100mg xanax powder for $15 or something. First time I ever saw benzo value for money and not assh0le ripoff 5x the cost of any pharma site.
good quality as long as you know how to dose mg's of powder...
Dudes on SR trying to sell 10x diazepam for like $30 need to be left out in the cold somewhere. Think I'll have to trawl through and see if there's anything else though.
Propranolol would be handy to have around if taking amps with bodyload.
Hello everybody
Today I have been to the dentist and he made some X-rays from my denture.
He compared this X-rays with the X-rays from 2010 and difference was huge.
There were gaps between my teeth due to caries. And this caries is the result from using amphetamine the last three years.
I didn't used it everyday but I guess 50 % of the time sometimes with binging.
So my girlfriend and I decided to quiet using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
1. I only drink water on speed.. Actually only drink water in general.
2. Get some damn listerine / mouthwash and set that shit down on the desk. Nice and refreshin swirlin some around. Eatin drink anything clean your mouth straight after.
3. haven't needed to go to the dentist for a long time or had any problems
4. Don't mix amph into water/liquids then drink it frequently. if you do wash your mouth thoroughly.. personally I just bought 100 gelatine capsules on ebay for a few dollars since I rarely snort as I enjoy having a septum and do not enjoy lookin like a cokehead with sniffles.
5. It's funny how many people don't know how to properly clean their mouths... USE Mouthwash first, then YOU brush and spit the excessive toothpaste out but don't wash your mouth out with water for 20 minutes or so. needs 20 minutes for toothpaste to set, properly clean/protect your teeth gums. Stop eating sugary shit . Floss if you're a pedantic.
6. if you're doing a bunch of speed and need a reason to quit then mess your teeth up, if it's motivation to kick then hehe, go for it.
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So will I. Some final secrets revealed: BM's speed is bought P2NP, just as Cape's (but not bought) so buy the latter or even better go for isi's PPA-based amph.
Could someone please explain why PPA based is "better"? I understand Fractalglobal's explanation but that doesn't explain the superiority of one above the other.
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I asked CapeCrusader if he goes by the precursor P2NP because i wanted to know and he said "No.".
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-BM, CC, and isi's amph are almost certainly all reduced from P2NP. In all honesty, using any other method to produce racemic amphetamine is just plain inefficient in terms of precursor cost. I'd say its highly likely they all use the Al/Hg rxn, I've messed around with Urushibara catalysts and they are too finicky to really be worthwhile.(imo)
I'd say it's most certainly what they say it is (especially true for isi). So true for BM and CC.
-Whilst I'm not sure exactly what the reason for the yellowing in BM/CC's speed, its almost certainly a result of the post rxn workup, and not of the rxn itself.
I'd say the yellow comes from this: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/73d27c4650
-It's not nearly as easy as it sounds to "play chemist." Especially with amphetamine.
Actually it is. Especially with amphetamine. Take a look at Europol reports, how the Dutch and Polish operate.
Just miss some of the old comrades. - Probably hiding in plain sight! ;)
I know that feel 'bro!
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SR tip:
if you need benzos (and you should have if you're using amp), caslava is still selling 100mg xanax powder for $15 or something. First time I ever saw benzo value for money and not assh0le ripoff 5x the cost of any pharma site.
good quality as long as you know how to dose mg's of powder...
Dudes on SR trying to sell 10x diazepam for like $30 need to be left out in the cold somewhere. Think I'll have to trawl through and see if there's anything else though.
the frontin (alprazolam) from maligan seem to be a fair deal for me and with high probability the legal ones. i mean you cant compare legal medical benzos with powder or research chemicals in the regard of price. i guess its like comparing the price of adderall to speed. so i dont want to abuse benzos and therefore the price is not really important. im sure its sth different if you take or abuse 100mg diazepam/10mg alprazolam on a single day or a regular basis or if you combine always both to get out the unpleasant effects of the amp (of course i had to try and its not a bad combo, but benzo-addiction is too dangerous.....). but thx for the tip, i guess i will order that too. seems to be a great deal.
was busy for a few weeks and had no time for speed (im more a "binger".....)/following the situation.
seems like powerade finally really is taking a longer break and not restocking (my main vendor i always had good experience with). also no offerings from bm(got one of two but would try again now after some time has passed and there came no legal notice). cc i cant use (i order eu only caus of customs, preferably germany but with really good stuff like i red about issi i would also use the probably most dangerous inside eu witch i think is nl, but also he is not offering anything atm but will soon?). any opinions from experienced users about JohnnyDeal/Mercury31/HollandOnline/FrankMatthews/Pfandleiher Reloaded/RedBull or any other good suggestion(if i remember right dagoberts was cut with meth, cmc did scam on jag, aakoven and afterhour was total no go? )
if it was not speed i would just go around testing but thats not cannabis and after reading that "One of the required precursors is mercury salts.(HgCl2, Hg2Cl2, or Hg(No3)2) This is rediculously dangerous stuff. Heavy metal poisoning is no joke, and these salts are used due to their solubility in water, but that also means that they will readily absorb through the skin and kill you if you have enough exposure(As low as 0.25g from what I understand.) Even if you were to follow correct safety procedures with the Hg salts, and managed the rxn, the post reaction workup needs quite a bit of attention to detail to ensure no mercury remains in the final product......" im already getting paranoid again(and than there could also be thousand rcs in it).
Did you have a package get caught and get in trouble?
Not "a" but *all* packages.
sad to hear mate. do you mean they collected all packages, delivered them at once and did a house search to find quite some material? if i remember right you are a european poweruser with higher amounts and not a vendor, so dont be too afraid but o.c. now big shit and you cant afford any trouble again for a long time. all the best.
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So my girlfriend and I decided to quit using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
So will I. Some final secrets revealed: BM's speed is bought P2NP, just as Cape's (but not bought) so buy the latter or even better go for isi's PPA-based amph.
Thanks to everyone for the nice time I had on the road: isi, cape, valentine, 12345, hellhazz, knomo, cleveland, speedie, jack, caffeine, and all I forgot.
vendors: don't ship to Austria.
Goodbye SR, was fun while it lasted.
For everyone who wants to play BM, go to sites like this: http://p2np.com/ and ask for custom synthesis, you will get yellowish BM speed. Good night and good fight.
Some clarification:
-BM, CC, and isi's amph are almost certainly all reduced from P2NP. In all honesty, using any other method to produce racemic amphetamine is just plain inefficient in terms of precursor cost. I'd say its highly likely they all use the Al/Hg rxn, I've messed around with Urushibara catalysts and they are too finicky to really be worthwhile.(imo)
-Whilst I'm not sure exactly what the reason for the yellowing in BM/CC's speed, its almost certainly a result of the post rxn workup, and not of the rxn itself.
-P2NP cannot be reduced to methamphetamine. It can be reduced to P2P, which can then be reduced to Methamphetamine, but you can't go straight from P2NP to meth.
-If you start from PPA, the resulting yield will be enantiomer specific. i.e. D-Amphetamine rather than racemic amph.
-It's not nearly as easy as it sounds to "play chemist." Especially with amphetamine. One of the required precursors is mercury salts.(HgCl2, Hg2Cl2, or Hg(No3)2) This is rediculously dangerous stuff. Heavy metal poisoning is no joke, and these salts are used due to their solubility in water, but that also means that they will readily absorb through the skin and kill you if you have enough exposure(As low as 0.25g from what I understand.)
Even if you were to follow correct safety procedures with the Hg salts, and managed the rxn, the post reaction workup needs quite a bit of attention to detail to ensure no mercury remains in the final product.
My stuff comes from good'oll phenyl-2-propanone. This stuff comes from a different source, not P2NP.
To be honest, I don't think anyone would reduce P2NP in large amounts with the Al/Hg reduction. Massive amounts of solvent and Hg isn't exactly good for your health.
P2NP sounds great, only one step to amph. But working with poison's like Hg is no fun. LiAlH4 could also be used, but this is rather expensive and loves to give of H2 when water is involved.
IMO the route most used is still the P2P route. But I could be wrong.
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Tested the new stuff last weekend and it fucking rocks. ;D
The listings are being made as I type, new smell resistant bags and zipbag included.
It wasn't completely dry, so the bags contain 1.25 grams if 1 is ordered.
Also worldwide shipping available.
For now only the 1 gram listings are visible. More will show up in the course of this week.
Also, new PGP key, please update it if you used the old one.
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So my girlfriend and I decided to quit using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
So will I. Some final secrets revealed: BM's speed is bought P2NP, just as Cape's (but not bought) so buy the latter or even better go for isi's PPA-based amph.
Thanks to everyone for the nice time I had on the road: isi, cape, valentine, 12345, hellhazz, knomo, cleveland, speedie, jack, caffeine, and all I forgot.
vendors: don't ship to Austria.
Goodbye SR, was fun while it lasted.
For everyone who wants to play BM, go to sites like this: http://p2np.com/ and ask for custom synthesis, you will get yellowish BM speed. Good night and good fight.
Some clarification:
-BM, CC, and isi's amph are almost certainly all reduced from P2NP. In all honesty, using any other method to produce racemic amphetamine is just plain inefficient in terms of precursor cost. I'd say its highly likely they all use the Al/Hg rxn, I've messed around with Urushibara catalysts and they are too finicky to really be worthwhile.(imo)
-Whilst I'm not sure exactly what the reason for the yellowing in BM/CC's speed, its almost certainly a result of the post rxn workup, and not of the rxn itself.
-P2NP cannot be reduced to methamphetamine. It can be reduced to P2P, which can then be reduced to Methamphetamine, but you can't go straight from P2NP to meth.
-If you start from PPA, the resulting yield will be enantiomer specific. i.e. D-Amphetamine rather than racemic amph.
-It's not nearly as easy as it sounds to "play chemist." Especially with amphetamine. One of the required precursors is mercury salts.(HgCl2, Hg2Cl2, or Hg(No3)2) This is rediculously dangerous stuff. Heavy metal poisoning is no joke, and these salts are used due to their solubility in water, but that also means that they will readily absorb through the skin and kill you if you have enough exposure(As low as 0.25g from what I understand.)
Even if you were to follow correct safety procedures with the Hg salts, and managed the rxn, the post reaction workup needs quite a bit of attention to detail to ensure no mercury remains in the final product.
My stuff comes from good'oll phenyl-2-propanone. This stuff comes from a different source, not P2NP.
To be honest, I don't think anyone would reduce P2NP in large amounts with the Al/Hg reduction. Massive amounts of solvent and Hg isn't exactly good for your health.
P2NP sounds great, only one step to amph. But working with poison's like Hg is no fun. LiAlH4 could also be used, but this is rather expensive and loves to give of H2 when water is involved.
IMO the route most used is still the P2P route. But I could be wrong.
I was implying P2P as well as P2NP as the main precursors used in amph synthesis, given that P2P is usually the result of a reduction of P2NP. I could be wrong, but I thought the main method for producing P2P was Benzaldehyde + nitromethane to produce P2NP, which is then reduced to P2P via NaBH4.
I agree that large scale production of amph using Al/Hg would probably not be feasable over the long term due to the toxic waste produced. I found my bag of mercury nitrate was leaking onto the desk I had my hand on a few days ago and that alone scared the shit out of me(I was in the process of moving it from one jar to another, I don't keep dangerous reagents in baggies lying on the desk for funsies :P).
-It's not nearly as easy as it sounds to "play chemist." Especially with amphetamine.
Actually it is. Especially with amphetamine. Take a look at Europol reports, how the Dutch and Polish operate.
I really hope you were being facetious here...
edit: For clarification: I initially said that it was highly likely BM/CC used Al/Hg, and then in this post, said that Al/Hg on a large scale was probably not feasable. I do not think the amounts they produce really qualify as "large scale" although I could definitely be wrong here. I assumed they make perhaps up to 200g per batch, whereas I think the toxicity from mercury would start becoming an issue once they started producing perhaps 10x that amount(3g of HgCl2/Hg(No3)2 would suffice for 300g of P2NP)
Just to make it clear, this is complete guesswork by me, neither of the 2 vendors have specified how they produce their product(to the best of my knowledge) so I've merely written what I think would be the most likely procedure. As I have no experience with producing even a fraction of that amount of *anything* I don't expect that I will be extremely accurate.
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suggestion(if i remember right dagoberts was cut with meth, cmc did scam on jag, aakoven and afterhour was total no go? )
Hey nomnom1, I remember you!
Have you had a look at Nature Alchemist? - I've had them in my (fan) list, but never tried, though I would especially where you are.
Also
Budworx UK
also never tried, but heard good things.
FrankMatthews is one I wish shipped to US. I would try him.
Wish I had better info. I hope that helps you.
-Chipster
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iisthisisthishitshitsisis is now I guess next on my test list.
BM even though, I was too mentally tapped out ccertainly improved his amphetamine for me by lowering the bodyload but CC still best. I'm annoyed at this MrFireUK kid still because he had the best amp I tried on SR until he went rogue... dno how the fk he acquired some of these good batches.. then decided to just rip everyone off instead of supplying some magical shit. I remember dancing and only having 80bpm heart rate on this stuff fs. BM old batches i was sitting with 120bpm resting heartrate. new batch is 100bpm at 75-100mg for me. when i had big tolerance tho.
CC I don't even measure my heartrate because I don't feel much difference which is why I like it.
Yes, I obsess about heart rate because I don't want to be do a Tony Soprano any time soon.
SR tip:
if you need benzos (and you should have if you're using amp), caslava is still selling 100mg xanax powder for $15 or something. First time I ever saw benzo value for money and not assh0le ripoff 5x the cost of any pharma site.
good quality as long as you know how to dose mg's of powder...
Dudes on SR trying to sell 10x diazepam for like $30 need to be left out in the cold somewhere. Think I'll have to trawl through and see if there's anything else though.
the frontin (alprazolam) from maligan seem to be a fair deal for me and with high probability the legal ones. i mean you cant compare legal medical benzos with powder or research chemicals in the regard of price. i guess its like comparing the price of adderall to speed. so i dont want to abuse benzos and therefore the price is not really important. im sure its sth different if you take or abuse 100mg diazepam/10mg alprazolam on a single day or a regular basis or if you combine always both to get out the unpleasant effects of the amp (of course i had to try and its not a bad combo, but benzo-addiction is too dangerous.....). but thx for the tip, i guess i will order that too. seems to be a great deal.
As for your CC comment, I've had 3 orders with him I believe and they've all arrived within 10 days, the record was maybe 5 business days to Western Europe. CC is no1 to me, powerade is.. well.. last time I had powerade I ate 200mg and scratched my head... but I did use powerade twice and first time was good.. but it's still wet speed paste. It was of the better variant but.
Not taking a chance on CC stuff which is well worth it, 2g can last a long ass time. Clean, very safe feeling and you don't look like a tweaker.. also doesn't make me compujlsive fkn masturbate like BM's old gear.. unless you're looking to be horny sex animal then the pastes and all that crazy stuff might be better. well, if you really wanna end up with a big raw sausage then crystal meth is your friend and inevitable demise. but that's a drug that left me with chest pains for days.
Research chemicals? never mentioned any research chemicals. I have plentyo benzo experience. I am also aware of my threshholds. For instance 1.5 weeks of xanax at 2mg doses is my cutoff. longer than that I get a mild 5-7 day wd with fractured sleep. etizolam to me, the most euphoric pseudobenzo I've used (something like $30-40 per 100mg outside of sr).. well, I ate 250mg powder of that in 4 days and was relatively fine with no wd. I have naturally hig htolerance but I never got truly addicted to benzos and I've been using them sporadically for years. Mainly in conjunction with stim use. and I never go past 1-2 weeks of using stims so..
I've had legitimate prescription for xanax and this xanax powder produces the same effects as brand script ones for me. it's a bit tricky to dose if you've not got proper scales. I did go a bit nuts and ate the 100mg over 14 days which is where I enter the red zone of having a mild wd.. although 1 of those days was negated with phenibut.
I just thought i'd point it out because the prices onf benzodiazipines on SR are absolutely ludicrous.. but I wasn't bothered since it's easy to source benzos for reasonable prices outside of SR... I just think, when you can get a brilliant drug such as CC's speed for 50 bux, why the hell would I be paying over the odds for a handful of generic diazepams. Benzo prices here are ridiculous and it concerns all amph users who don't know any better. Stim + downers go hand in hand for me at least.
Now, if only someone could produce some damn zolpidem powder! My preferred tool, because of the incredibly short halflife there is no dulling daya fter effect to dampen ur next day use of amp.
to be frank this is to me legitimate benzo and if you're just looking for 100 doses and have some control then it's a super bargain. couldn't find it cheaper on my outside of SR sources where I usually get my benzos..
ALthough I really much prefer flunitrazepam (rohypnol) but that is quite costly ( i get it for 60 yoyo 30x centrafarm 2mg) (think i saw one listing for it on here that was 100 usd excl shipping from some dodgy guy selling 10x 1mg..). The reason I prefer it is, while I find it inferior to say the legal etizolam in euphoria.. It seems I can use it for 3 weeks without WD. as I did.
Xanax in larger doses provides long enogh sleep but then tolerance and dependence is quicker.
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Hi All,
Been reading the posts in here for a long time. Finally got around to getting an account up to 50 O_o, anyways everybody pointed me to BM and CC both are great. Had a question, anybody try AfterHours speed? Really good price was curious as to the quality.
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Here's a tip on how to take good care of your nostrils and sinuses:
Use a neti pot or a more modern alternative like "NeilMed Sinus Rinse" (you can google for cheaper stuff too)
It's basically a nasal irrigation. You put some water with salt and baking soda (so it matches your body PH and doesn't burn) up one nostril and it goes out the other flushing out all the stuff that's inside.
Here's a wikipedia article on the topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_irrigation
I have been doing it for 2 years almost daily. I used to have serious problems with throat and sinus infections, now they are all gone.
The water should also flush all nasty residues from speed and other drugs you like to snort. All the fillers, caustic substances etc can really hurt you muccus membrane. So if you decide to snort, at least take care good care of your nose - you're gonna need it!:)
They sell prepackaged powder to make a solution, but it's just 50/50 salt and baking soda so you can prepare it yourself and save some money.
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Tested the new stuff last weekend and it fucking rocks. ;D
The listings are being made as I type, new smell resistant bags and zipbag included.
It wasn't completely dry, so the bags contain 1.25 grams if 1 is ordered.
Also worldwide shipping available.
For now only the 1 gram listings are visible. More will show up in the course of this week.
Also, new PGP key, please update it if you used the old one.
i tried finding iisthisisi on SR but nothing came up, is he in stealth?
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Tested the new stuff last weekend and it fucking rocks. ;D
The listings are being made as I type, new smell resistant bags and zipbag included.
It wasn't completely dry, so the bags contain 1.25 grams if 1 is ordered.
Also worldwide shipping available.
For now only the 1 gram listings are visible. More will show up in the course of this week.
Also, new PGP key, please update it if you used the old one.
i tried finding iisthisisi on SR but nothing came up, is he in stealth?
He's got one up now!
I've been wanting to try this guys stuff since I started on this thread!
Oh well. Hopefully he'll still be have it next week! - Big Independence Day Weekend here in the States! - Remember-no mail July 4th.
(and I believe our neighbors to the North have no mail delivery July 1st Canada Day?)
Here's the link for iisthiisi
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/867d33d2f6
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LoL at the Tony Soprano comment. Just don't allow yourself to get 80 lbs overweight, take a 15 hour flight to Italy from US. Land go to restaurant, order up 4 shots of Rum, followed by 2 Pina Coladas, 2 beers, 2 orders of FRIED King Prawns (yuck), and a LARGE portion of Foie Gras!!! - You should be fine!
Can you imagine? What better to have with your fatty liver, than some Fatty Liver! The guy had a death wish!
Doctors tried for 40 mins unsuccessfully to revive him. - It was an Italian Hospital, but I don't think even a NY Hospital could've brought him back from that one! :P
Yes, I obsess about heart rate because I don't want to be do a Tony Soprano any time soon.
Zolpidem powder . . . .. to be frank this is to me legitimate benzo
I thought Zolpidem was a nonbenzodiazepine hypnotic?
Just trying to "keep up" with the chemistry talk! ;D
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As for your CC comment, I've had 3 orders with him I believe and they've all arrived within 10 days, the record was
dont get me wrong, im sure cc/bm/issi is the best available here. its just, you dont have "normal" controls inside eu and nl, also it is inside eu, is a special. it all depend where you let send your stuff to o.c.. loosing a shipment is no problem for me, having a search and police taking all your encrypted hardware is sth different. you go with drop-boxes/etc.......gets really expensive for a consumer. just my 2ct in this regard. for myself, i will never ever order sth outside eu because i know this stuff goes always through a real border. eu-borders are "imaginary". thats why i was so fucked up about the non arriving bm send(not the money. he gave them 100% back anyway). if you would add all my powerade stuff together it was at least 50g+. i knew it was not the best, but i was sure it was save (the product) and minimum risk (at least for me living in new-zealand).
i guess i try issi with 2g(legit:"small amount"), but i oversleep it again.
in regards of benzos:
Research chemicals? never mentioned any research chemicals.
never said they are, its just there is a lot around with very low price if you go non medical.......it was just that m., - you would have ordered you would know where he sends from - and you do a research where frontin is produced.......its probably the thing they produce there and some smuggle out. he will never be able to compete with powder/rc, just wanted to point that out. never said one is better than the other. so benzos is not my friend because for me benzo and any opiates count as critical medicine, not to abuse. i only take benzo on od (and with bombing od they did not(!) help, but with snorting they did it, for alcohol withdraw or for social shit(only when alcohol is total impossible). i abuse them it goes take 100mg diazepam/aequivalent and smoke some weed............i guess its, i can only guess, but i bet its my total fucked cross tolerance from massive massive massive alcohol abuse in the past. so i red too much about benzo withdraw and i know how easy a alcohol withdraw is and what shit can happen if you set one from massive alcohol to zero and than - when shit starts to get totally out of control - you give them benzo/clomethiazol (distraneurin) and all is fine. so handle them/it with care. nevertheless i will try that source out....price is so cheap. you know ;)
also thx for your reply (also to chipster, but if i order from nl i try o.c. issi)
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Guess who's back?
BM is back? ;)
I may make an order with you once I get a new drop address :)
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Guess who's back?
glad to see. we need competition here <3
i just gave a order to issi few hours ago. if your team turns out to be good i will try you again o.c.. the one that i got from you in january was very good in terms price/quantity.
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Guess who's back?
YAY, BM is back, this means im back too.
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July 2
183rd day of the year
BM is BACK!
Welcome back! :) Does this mean that the listing will be up on July 2?
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Just put in an order with mrimporter and WOW!!!! It was marked in transit in like 10 fucking min!!!!! This will(hopefully) be my first experience with speed and im am fucking excited. A couple weeks ago i was wanting to put a little with mdma for some people and i may still do that, but here lately i have been wanting the extra energy. Can anyone estimate what % i should expect to dry out?
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I should be getting my package from CC any day now, kinda excited as I've yet to try his gear before
Also if BM is gonna be back I'm gonna have to save some BTC^^
would be interesting to compare them both
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Welcome back! :) Does this mean that the listing will be up on July 2?
Of course!! With big discounts!!
Thank god. I have been thinking WTF am I going to do been running pretty low on good speed. Tried a few different vendors and none of them are no where near your quality. Are you changing stealth around? I know I had problems getting larger quantities 10+ a few others as well. Anyways glad you are back.
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What used to be the price(s) for BM:s speed? I'm going to get some BTC and need to know how many :)
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$25-$30 per gram iirc.
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Purchased some speed from Nature Alchemist.
Stealth was good and MBB was used.
This speed is advertised at 80% amp sulphate but unfortunately doesn't seem even close to this. It arrived almost dry and has that typical speed paste smell. Upon snorting you could taste the cutting agent which I'm guessing is msm and not caffeine because I didn't get the jittery caffeine effects. It definitely has some amp in it but the effects are very mild.
Very disappointed by the falsely advertised strength and don't recommend it. Stick to the tried and true vendors such as BM and CC.. You can't really go wrong with their product and service.
Peace
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Welcome back! :) Does this mean that the listing will be up on July 2?
Of course!! With big discounts!!
Hooray! We have been discussing how you switched precursors that ended up in this amazing last batch. Any other new improvements or changes in what's to come!? :)
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hey guys do you have any vendor - recommendations for bulk 50g amph?
should be in EU
..i dont mind the price if the quality is good
cheers minchia
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I'll definately be hitting up a BM order when he's back listing....best stuff.
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Okay so today I just received my CC package. On my Chronology application (iPhone app, maybe on other phone os too) the last time I used was 65mg BM- 23 days ago. So my tolerance should be good. I decided to take 21 days(I read somewhere in gobbledegook that's how long real reset is.. don't quote me on that) and managed 23 days instead so hooray.
I dosed up 62mg 10 minutes ago so lets see if hyper hell kicks off.. Actually in fact, the past 2-3 days I have been very hyper.. and uppity even without amph.. but of course lacking concentration ability, displaying signs of ADHD but I don't believe I have it on a fullblown scale anyhow. Lets see how this goes. I am looking forward to do a side by side testing between CC and iisthisisi.
For any new readers and users of this thread. CC is generally regarded as no.1 with BM a close 2nd or 1st (subjective).. but iisthisisi is coming in now as a contender... Either way the top 2 right now is well, if you've restricted yourself ot using pastes and streeet speed all your life. This is a new world of 90+% purity stuff with low bodyload (thanks to BM's recent efforts of removing to bodyload aspect of his previous batches). I will be able to see how iisthisisi gear stacks up.
CC = CapeCrusader
BM = BoyMaster
iisthisisi = good luck spelling it consistently.. I think I'll just refer to him as IIS because I accidentally typed isiisthisshit once even though the vendor name is simply "I IS THIS IS I".
Fuck, I am already PLACEBO speeding. You see people, this is what happens when you take a break like you should... but I sitll think I'm gonna need to horde a bunch here and dig it in my garden. Because if SR disappears... Well, until SR I had never discovered amphetamine. I had used so called amphetamine off the streets... but I had never used Breaking Bad standard until here.
As for your CC comment, I've had 3 orders with him I believe and they've all arrived within 10 days, the record was
dont get me wrong, im sure cc/bm/issi is the best available here. its just, you dont have "normal" controls inside eu and nl, also it is inside eu, is a special. it all depend where you let send your stuff to o.c.. lo
also thx for your reply (also to chipster, but if i order from nl i try o.c. issi)
I understand about ordering within EU and NL. I am in WES Europe...
While I ordered the CC gear sometime last week, there's a mark on the envelope which saysa 21st of this month. IE 6 days ago.. Indicating it was sent from South Africa Last friday, arriving here in Wes Europe (brit isles) in what seems to be another record 5 business days. Since you live in NL, isn't South Africa pretty much using NL shipping channels due to being well.. the Netherlands of Africa :) I would expect SA to NL to be seemless.. as I assume that my route for CC goes through Holland and then here... in 5 business days, so I'm gonna assume it's very quick to NL from SA... but from what I read IIS is supplying gear to rival BM and CC now so hope it is so.
Also on nomnom posts, I'm sure you are aware benzos/opiates/alcohol are not cross tolerant.. although of course lethal in combination !
Still, benzodiazipine abuse is a mofo wd... so you got to know your "deadlines" with them... it can be easy to loose track if you're not disciplined.
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LoL at the Tony Soprano comment. Just don't allow yourself to get 80 lbs overweight, take a 15 hour flight to Italy from US. Land go to restaurant, order up 4 shots of Rum, followed by 2 Pina Coladas, 2 beers, 2 orders of FRIED King Prawns (yuck), and a LARGE portion of Foie Gras!!! - You should be fine!
Can you imagine? What better to have with your fatty liver, than some Fatty Liver! The guy had a death wish!
Doctors tried for 40 mins unsuccessfully to revive him. - It was an Italian Hospital, but I don't think even a NY Hospital could've brought him back from that one! :P
Yes, I obsess about heart rate because I don't want to be do a Tony Soprano any time soon.
Zolpidem powder . . . .. to be frank this is to me legitimate benzo
I thought Zolpidem was a nonbenzodiazepine hypnotic?
Just trying to "keep up" with the chemistry talk! ;D
Lol jagfuq, just like you (or someone else) my slightly over limit bad cholesterol and bodyfat vanished over the year I used amph on n off. Sure, I lost perhaps 15-20% of muscular strength and size.. but I started weight training again and, well there's muscle memory and I'm blowing back up with lean gains this time. Right now I am like faces of meth in reverse. I'm edging towards 30 and I still get carded because now my face looks younger and fresher due to lowered bodyfat. My blood pressure is a sick superlow 105/65 or so which is kind of like professional bicyclist.
It's a shame Tony Soprano (mr gandolfini) never came to SR. I am certain he would've been alive today if he had been on the ohnoesjagfuq diet and health plan for hte past year.. looking slim and trim instead of being killed by an onion ring.
Hah, imagine if all those yuppies doing coke would have access to the smooth low bodyload amphs we are blessed with today. Credit to BM for recognizing to make his amph with lesser bodyload.
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Now for the "chemistry"
The reason I prefer zolpidem (or ambien, stillnoct stilnox etc brand name), which is indeed not a benzodiazipine but a hypnotic...
WHILE it is cross tolerant to a degree with benzodiazipines... as it acts on GABA-A (phenibut, alcohol acts on GABA-B a nd is therefor not cross tolerant with GABA-A agonists such as benzos n zolpidem and other z-drugs)
Now, zolpidem is not branded as an anxiolytic because.. there's more to it than just acting on GABA-A... zolpidem is very selective to ONE of the gaba-a SUBUNITS... while stuff like diazepam hits most of the subunits. This is why certain benzodiazipines will cause depedency and therefor tolerance + withdrawal at different paces. I find the more hypnotic ones to be more lenient (such as rohypnol) and give you a longer time before entering insufferable withdrawals of benzodiazipines.
I will say this, the drug phenibut (which acts mainly on GABA-B and has some strange dopaminergic action) is handy to have around (it's legal and purchaseable on ebay) but it's incredibly addictive and gives you wd after only a few days of use similar to benzo WD... It also retards your amphetamine recovery due to it's unknown action on dopamine... but I have had times on phenibut where I've felt sort of like I'm high on amphetamine despite being a GABA-B agonist. liek alcohol, but much cleaner and not sloppy drunk.
Anyways, you can use phenibut to cancel out ONE day of amphetamine wd, ONE day of benzo wd (as long as it's not a strong benzo wd in which case you should be using tapering with diazepam or anti convulsant meds like propropanol, which is also good for amph WD as it rests your heart rate bp etc)
One thing I find peculiar is that my blood pressure is completely unaffected by amphetamine while. but we all have different systems.
Anyways, back to zolpidem (ambien, other z-drugs such as zopiclone might be applicable too but they have slightly longer half-life and I dont think it's as good as zolpidem for knocking one out)
since it has affinity for only one main GABA-A subunit (i believe there's a handful of them)... yes it's slightly cross tolerant with benzos but not fully. but the benefits of it over benzos is that the half-life is 1-2 hours I believe. if you take mega doses of xanax to go to sleep after amphetamine (operating on a schedule as I do where I try to be awake only 16 hours like normal, then force myself to sleep with aid of benzo/z-drugs (hypnotics)... well from my findings a large dose of xanax (which I seem to require, natural tolerance) will cause me to have a dulling hangover effect on the next days use of amphetamine thus decreasing the effects of the amphetamine.. despite the long half-life. So make sure to take as minimum dose as you require as possible if xanax (alaprozalam) as you can possible take.
For me the best true benzodiazipine for amphetamine use is the more hypnotic rohypnol/flunitrazepam .. (rohypnol the brand is discontinued- it is sold as in 2mg x30 boxes nowadays by centrafarm a dutch pharma)... because it can 1) if taken in larger doses somehow magically restore an amphetamine high and have contrasting effect to being a sleep inducer but not recommended.. 2) it takes longer to develop dependency, tolerance and then withdrawal.. so if you happen to be taking amph for say 2 weeks straight (sleeping every night due to the flunitrazepam). Of course this is the most difficult benzodiazipine to acquire but my source from NL I find is reasonable at 60 euro for a 30x2mg box as opposed to the one nutter trying to sell 10x 1mg weird generic on SR for 100.
Ok I am now 41+ minutes since ingesting CC in gelcap and it is now evident that I am ready to put some work in. Heartrate an unconcerned 85bpm(mildly above average resting, altho probably elevated by the fact that I am typing really really fast and excited to be medicating myself with amphetamine after my hiatus) with athletic unaffected blood pressure of 100ish over 65. (which is lower than average).
We all know neurotoxocity with regular good amphetamine is not really too much of a concern as long as you cycle unlike meth which is dangerous due to the serotonin release in conjunction with dopamine. The main concern was always the strain on the cardiovascular system. We now have access to synths which cause very little strain to our blood pressure and heart rates... although this subjective as we're all wired differently but, I suggest buying a blood pressure with heartrate monitor.
I also suggest buying an exercise bike (you can bp monitor plus an exercise bike for under a hunny)... keep your cardio good. Take your chelated magnesium along with your nighttime GOOD multivitamin (not the centrum crap brands) and perhaps l-tyrosine.. I woldn't use l-phenylalanine all the time due to the risk of that .. word I can't recall hydrolaxe laxa. whatever.. when your phen conversiomn becomes oversatured.
Anyways enough ranting. Time for me to go make some money doing what I do (someone adviced me not to mention my profession as it's rather unique and my earn rate benefits greatly from being "performance enhanced" as I am able to increase my rate by 33% and remain efficient for 5x longer without fail.
Look forward to IIS (i like this one because it makes it sound like an international space/speed station) - maybe SISI senor, or IST.. (or whaever acronym we agree upon- because iisithisishit will undeservedly be miss pelt containing the word shit which, from accounts by trusted posters, he does not serve)
Ok CapeCrusader's 62mg is now in full effect.
TIME FOR SOME WINNING.
Stay safe and be responsible people. Drugs are baaad, but with care and being in the 0.0001% of the world who have access to the purest, gentlest and least unhealthy yet most efficient stimulant chefs.. we can probably say that drugs aren't really that bad. In fact, with proper care. THESE DRUGS DO WONDERS...
1. I have made A LOT of money
2. I have smooth talked A LOT of poontang. I am a decent looking fella (with high standards but was lacking confidence.. y but I've been able to get myself solid 9's thanks to this and engaged in my first a long term romantic relationship with someone I would've thoguht way out of my league... I was on CC the first time and this allowed me to hit that first impression perfect, after you've done that you don't need to be on amph for following dates because you've established a rapport and connection you can channel yourself.
giving me the ability to finally have a family and normal life so...
3. THESE DRUGS ARE GOOD. If you follow a set of rules. It's a thin line but it's not a meth thin line (there's no line with meth, only one that takes you into fuckface land)
4. Oh yeah I'm meant to get out of here now.. +52 minutes and we're in peak central. ZERO bodyload.
5. five just because of 4.
6. Self-reminder: stay off forums because of thunder-fingers.
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hey guys do you have any vendor - recommendations for bulk 50g amph?
should be in EU
..i dont mind the price if the quality is good
cheers minchia
Check out AfterHour or Pfandleiher Reloaded..
They sell bulk amph at a really good price for the quality and they both ship from Germany.
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Hooray! We have been discussing how you switched precursors that ended up in this amazing last batch. Any other new improvements or changes in what's to come!? :)
Hi,
The precursors can't cross the purification step and end in the finished product, it's impossible because the polarity of both is opposite. Only some byproducts of the reaction can do it, mainly molecules of similar nature to amphetamine. This is what caused the yellow color in the past and this is why acetone dissolved the yellow substance and not the amphetamine.
As for the improvements:
- This batch is going to be small (sadly), it will last around three weeks.
- The quality will be just as expected for the new dimension, no less. Pure, white and dry amphetamine sulfate powder of the highest purity. Really hard to improve this point though. ;D
- Customer support is the point that is going to be greatly improved as we will have way more time to take care of this.
- The stealth is going to be on par for this batch (same as always), although some details have been upgraded. No MBB or mylar this time.
The big improvements will come after this batch, with the launch of a new line of products also. (And no, it won't be d-amphetamine, unfortunately this need so much work that becomes unprofitable.)
Regards
BM
That is good. I will wait for the new new batch. I was unable to properly judge the current batch (due to having heavy tolerance at the time) other than it causing none of the bodyload which put me off your previous products so I knew that progress had been made. I know some people perhaps prefer a strong kick in the heart and to be really speeded up but, those people have perhaps a disregard for personal health and there's always crystal meth for that... or any of the average pastes. Looking forward to see the new lien of products. If all plays out as is then we will have a three pronged powerhouse.. or a trident if you will of evolved amphetamine- of which pharmaceutical companies would lag behind. I will spend my now back to baseline non tolerance on CC and IIS/IST/SISI whatever, and the timeline you have specified will allow me to reset tolerance again. I will then save some doses of your 2 esteemed fellow chemical engineers and be able to do a comparison of the only amphetamines possibly in the world that people should try. I feel like I'm Dora the explorer of the final frontier in the evolution of cognitive enhancement before we end up having nanobots, and whatever the future may bring to replace chemicals (hah.. as if)
And to all of the rest of the thread, sorry but I may return with more long rantings now that I'm back on my "on cycle" that are hopefully informative in bits and bobs. I'm simply not a person who has honed brevity. May be that my posts all require TL;DR's
IRRELEVANT OTT: I do try to type in a cogent & coherent manner as I'm a bit of a pedantic but English is my third language.. I won't pretend it's not my preferred language however
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^^ Thanks for the entertaining posts mate! I've enjoyed reading them.
Sounds like the reset tolerance break did the trick.. In desperate need of one myself, been spoilt by BM and CC lately. Might start the break now and then by the time BM's new batch is in my hands, which should be about 3 weeks from now, my tolerance should be reset. Good food and plenty of exercise will help the process.
Out of interest how long are your "on cycles"?
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What used to be the price(s) for BM:s speed? I'm going to get some BTC and need to know how many :)
1gm was $34 and 5gm was $121. I can't remember the other prices, but if make sure you buy more than enough BTC to allow for prices changes.
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This is what caused the yellow color in the past and this is why acetone dissolved the yellow substance and not the amphetamine.
I mainly find it odd because generally acetone is the solvent used when salting out the freebase.
Speaking of which, depending on the solvent, HgSO4 would be a possible contaminant, but I think we'd have known a while ago if this were the case :P.
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What used to be the price(s) for BM:s speed? I'm going to get some BTC and need to know how many :)
1gm was $34 and 5gm was $121. I can't remember the other prices, but if make sure you buy more than enough BTC to allow for prices changes.
I've been following this thread for a while and I'm considering going for either BM or iist when I get paid, but these prices are a bit more than I'm used to paying for speed. Is it really worth it? What dose do you usually need? Oral or insufflated?
Thanks
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Not to be a troll of some sort, but mercury won't show up on NMR because 99% of the NMR taken will be proton NMR. This will only measure the protons that are present in the molecule because they have a spin which will be aligned by the magnetic field. By measuring the energy needed to align the spin of the proton one can determine the neighbouring protons. The number of protons on the next carbon will also account for the split of the signal.
To measure mercury (as an ion), one needs a different technique called ICP or inductive coupled plasma. This method can measure metal concentrations in various samples.
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I've followed this topic for a while (even posted before they put up the 50 post newbie limit), but managed to score 50 posts to contribute as well to this topic!
I always liked to order from Dutch vendors (since I don't like to order across the borders), but the quality of speed was always a bit disappointing. A while a go I came across this post from speedie and always remembered this post:
Today I got the results from Eric Cartman's stuff.
What my girlfriend and I already thought this stuff I very pure.See my short review from last week.
The test result was 71% from the 73% max and no contamination's Absolute is this more then 97 %.
At the moment there are no listings from him an I can't get contact with him.
Speedie
So I kept on following Eric Cartman for a while (ignoring the somewhat lower stats, since I know speedie wasn't lying) and try to get into touch with him, since it seems that he sold some quality stuff! And a few weeks ago he indeed responded. I received some of his amphetamine, brought it to the testcenter and received the result yesterday. And oh boy, it seems to be just as pure as the speed speedie tested earlier.
The labresults where 71% of a max 73% with no contamination's, which makes it a total of more than 97% pure.
I'm very pleased with this result of course, since he sold it at around 1.1 btc for 10 grams.
Unfortunately it seems he's inactive again at the moment (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/92d47c2a3c), but if he is up again I would definitely order something from him again.
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vendors: don't ship to Austria.
Did you have a package get caught and get in trouble?
Not "a" but *all* packages.
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Somebody left feedback with Mercury31's 20g MDMA listing at http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/89e1d756a7 which says the following. Just wondering if you left that feedback. We don't hear about many CDs on SR actually happening so I'm always curious when one does happen.
WARNING!!!
Controlled Delivery by law enforcement!
You will be arrested if you order!
WARNING!!!
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Hows it going everyone?!?! A little bored here, but i would love to comment on my order with Mr.Importer. I got the 5g of speed paste which dried to 1.4; now i have never had amph by itself, but after reciving my order and sampling some of the product i can definitely say im a fan!!! I took 40mg wadded up in a rolling paper and a little while later i was noticing stimulation, shortly after this just a slight euphoria; like way happy. It came on and, has felt just extremely mellow the whole time. No jaw clenching and just ever so slight hand stimulation. I am very happy with that importin dude and wish i woulda checked him out sooner. If all goes well i am really hoping to place another order with him soon i reeaaalllly like this shit and that super quick ship!!
PEACE
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man still pretty bored but jammin some Dead, and i hate to steal my friends words but i feel them to be ded on. The Dead arent the best at what they do they were the only ones to do what they do. I feel like if you enjoy music there is something in the Dead for you. they got a few people up there so it takes some paying attention, but man those motherfuckers made magic when they went on stage. I mean man they are all just so in-tune, when i first really got it it blew my fucking mind! I just really cant describe it; definitely worth a listen whoever you are
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Last night I got a chance to try speed from Budworx UK.
It arrived as a completely drenched paste.. The wettest I've ever seen from SR. Upon drying it lost over 50% weight which was disappointing. It's a bit of a misleading listing.
As for the high, after taking BM and CC gear lots recently I gotta say you could really notice the caffeine edginess pretty quickly after railing but once that subsides you can feel the amp. The pure sulphate high is much more calm compared to this paste. I don't drink coffee either so probably more sensitive to caffeine.
From this experience I would leave budworx speed as a last resort.
Hello there,
Sorry that you did not have a good experience in ordering from us. When its in a pure paste form its meant to be kept in the freezer. We shouldn't have sent it out as pure as we did, we have since allowed it some time and is now perfectly set in its pure form and is rocket fuel. We suggest that if you add some powdered glucose to dilute the strength if you are not used to its purity.
Here are some reviews we have had since its setting, and one that received the paste:
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"Another successful transaction with Budworx, by far the most reliable vendor I've dealt with. Cheers!"
"All Good ,Happy Days ..., ./ /"
"Mate, Mate, Mate, Fucking fuck yes. funny thing
is I'd already been on the trot with a bit of OK paste off and on over the weekend, it was decent but no comparison, esp w/ energy level and focus. But as soon as I caught site of this you could tell its a whole different tweaking kettle of tweaky fish altogether. The steaths good and that, nice and legit looking only thing I'd say without trying to give anything away, it's it's really wet.like you can swim in it, and that wet is stinky as all fuck. The good kind of stink tho, not the bullshit kind. Some people reckon dryer stuff is better cause you get more weight, I always thought wet seemed better, fresher. not decomposed or whatever.
But yer, when you open it up your house starts fuming like some sort of petrol station quick smart :)
Anyway, couldn't tell any smell in the post tho.
I'm fucking beaming off this stuff, and maybe chatting a bit much. it's great. I just wish I'd gotten some buds as well before sleepy time. I thought I'd have some saved before this come, but no, just an austerity joint or maybe a bucket. Will enjoy it anyway. and sort it out some green too next time. Cheers, top work mate." - This guy is in a far away country and we sent him prior setting like yourself.
"Wonderful speed & delivery so quick- thank you"
"Excellent, friendly speedy service. Very impressed"
"Arrived Internationally on time, amazing stealth and lovely product. Thanks Heaps"
"fast deliv, good bit of gear!"
"Top seller - Very Professional! "
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If you care to message us on SR to confirm who you are and we will send you a few grams on the house (of the set hardened product of course), sorry again that you were not satisfied with the product.
Kind regards
Bud
Bit of an update. I've been in contact with Budworx and I'm happy that he has offered to redeem himself for this disappointing experience. Thank you for being a stand up vendor mate.
Will update again once resend is up my nostrils.
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Hello,
You are correct kybzmsrf, mercury wouldn't ever pass the purification step, just some ppm, the concentration wouldn't be higher than what you can find in tuna or marble crabs. There have been several analysis done by NMR on street drugs and no mercury has been found (on the record). At least I haven't seen any. The only contaminants that can pass the purification step are substances very VERY similar to amphetamine (freebase) in solubility, boiling point, etc...
By the while, we don't use mercury in our process, aluminum amalgam would be a complete waste of chemicals, time and money. Al/Hg is good on the sub-mole scale. Anything bigger than a mole is a complete no-no.
Cheers
BM
If the separation of freebase and aqueous phase is done improperly(which is always possible) then when titration via H2SO4 is done, wouldn't the HgO(Mercury salts are converted to elemental Hg and HgO during amalgamation IIRC) be converted to HgSO4?
Like I said previously, I was speaking from a hypothetical perspective as I doubt you'd be careless enough for something like this to happen, but its interesting to note the "possible" contaminents in a product.
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i try 3 time naturalweed's speed
very good quality , very fresh , good apple smell :P (2 FUCKING DAYS , no sleep, i finsh my week end in a big party on the boat total fresstyle amphetamine )
i m not a specialist but this vendor have very good shit , and very fast shipping and he s cool
sorry i speak english like a monkey
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Sorry for my bad English
I bought amphetamine paste from Naturalweed
Good product, and not too wet. Not entirely dry either, but nearly. Very good communication and quick reaction. This guy made what he could so i could get my product before the weekend and i got it one day earlier. Quantity was 1.8 instead of 2 but as long as product was nearly dry, it is still more than some amph paste i got, where 50% was volatile. After a partial but nearly full drying and a little line in my nose (couldn't resist), still 1.6 on my scale.
After 2 days of party without sleeping, i'm still full of energy and can say this is damn good speed. 2 grams kept one person awake for 3 nights and another one for 2 nights.
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Boymaster listings are going up today? Keep f5'ing the page :P
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Listings up!!! Enjoy
I will! Just ordered. :)
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Subscribing to this wonderful thread.
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Hi,
we've just put up listings for some 95-98% pure amphetamine sulfate, as pure as it gets and can be compared to pharmaceutical grade amphetamine like Adderall and similar products.
I don't think there is anyone else selling amphetamine this pure and clean. So if you're looking for some REAL amphetamine without any cut don't look any further.. no caffeine, lactose or anything else in there except for amphetamine sulfate :)
Since we're still fairly new on the scene and we've just put up the listings for the amphetamine and there is no feedback yet we want to offer 3x samples of 250mg each to some experienced speed users preferably from Germany or at least within the EU... and 250mg might not sound like a whole lot but trust me this stuff is strong and 250mg is plenty even for regular speed users and I doubt even seasoned users will need more than 100-150mg per DAY and no one should try more than 30mg as an initial dose.. it's really that strong. I guess someone without tolerance would not need more than lets say 60mg divided in 3x20mg throughout a whole day but even less should easily get one through a hard night.
Just contact me here or on the mainsite to ask for a sample .. requirement is that you've written some reviews before and use the forums regularly.
Our vendor profile can be found in the signature..
Kind regards,
JunkieXXL Crew
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I've followed this topic for a while (even posted before they put up the 50 post newbie limit), but managed to score 50 posts to contribute as well to this topic!
I always liked to order from Dutch vendors (since I don't like to order across the borders), but the quality of speed was always a bit disappointing. A while a go I came across this post from speedie and always remembered this post:
Today I got the results from Eric Cartman's stuff.
What my girlfriend and I already thought this stuff I very pure.See my short review from last week.
The test result was 71% from the 73% max and no contamination's Absolute is this more then 97 %.
At the moment there are no listings from him an I can't get contact with him.
Speedie
So I kept on following Eric Cartman for a while (ignoring the somewhat lower stats, since I know speedie wasn't lying) and try to get into touch with him, since it seems that he sold some quality stuff! And a few weeks ago he indeed responded. I received some of his amphetamine, brought it to the testcenter and received the result yesterday. And oh boy, it seems to be just as pure as the speed speedie tested earlier.
The labresults where 71% of a max 73% with no contamination's, which makes it a total of more than 97% pure.
I'm very pleased with this result of course, since he sold it at around 1.1 btc for 10 grams.
Unfortunately it seems he's inactive again at the moment (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/92d47c2a3c), but if he is up again I would definitely order something from him again.
Received a message from Eric Cartman and his listings are up again. I think it's a good price for 97% pure amphetamine.
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Purchased some speed from Nature Alchemist.
Stealth was good and MBB was used.
This speed is advertised at 80% amp sulphate but unfortunately doesn't seem even close to this. It arrived almost dry and has that typical speed paste smell. Upon snorting you could taste the cutting agent which I'm guessing is msm and not caffeine because I didn't get the jittery caffeine effects. It definitely has some amp in it but the effects are very mild.
Very disappointed by the falsely advertised strength and don't recommend it. Stick to the tried and true vendors such as BM and CC.. You can't really go wrong with their product and service.
Peace
Nature Alchemist offered to send me a sample of his new batch to review.
They're packaging is very good so if this new batch is the business ill be a return customer.
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I might have to give JunkieXXL a chance probably a 1g tester. Currently waiting for 5g's of BM's stuff right now but wouldn't mind have a good bulk dealer work with. Sucks nothing anybody really solid in the US for speed.
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Hello my valued amphetamine friends,
as my personal supply draws to a close, i would like to know which vendors beside BM & CC are fine too?
Did some new vendors appeared, which i should test?
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Hi,
we've just put up listings for some 95-98% pure amphetamine sulfate, as pure as it gets and can be compared to pharmaceutical grade amphetamine like Adderall and similar products.
I don't think there is anyone else selling amphetamine this pure and clean. So if you're looking for some REAL amphetamine without any cut don't look any further.. no caffeine, lactose or anything else in there except for amphetamine sulfate :)
Since we're still fairly new on the scene and we've just put up the listings for the amphetamine and there is no feedback yet we want to offer 3x samples of 250mg each to some experienced speed users preferably from Germany or at least within the EU... and 250mg might not sound like a whole lot but trust me this stuff is strong and 250mg is plenty even for regular speed users and I doubt even seasoned users will need more than 100-150mg per DAY and no one should try more than 30mg as an initial dose.. it's really that strong. I guess someone without tolerance would not need more than lets say 60mg divided in 3x20mg throughout a whole day but even less should easily get one through a hard night.
Just contact me here or on the mainsite to ask for a sample .. requirement is that you've written some reviews before and use the forums regularly.
Our vendor profile can be found in the signature..
Kind regards,
JunkieXXL Crew
I'll be the judge of that 8)
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Hello my valued amphetamine friends,
as my personal supply draws to a close, i would like to know which vendors beside BM & CC are fine too?
Did some new vendors appeared, which i should test?
iisthisis
waiting on a small order but his should be good to go
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Hello, new vendor here :)
Check out my listings.
Thank you
YCTT
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Hello, new vendor here :)
Check out my listings.
Thank you
YCTT
Made an order with YCTT. Thought that I might as well give a new vendor a go.
Comms have been good, seems like an honest person and was very grateful for the order.
Will update..
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Kind regards,
JunkieXXL Crew
made a test order, will see how good the product is. will report back :)
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has aynone tested the new BM's batch yet? how does it compare to the previous one?
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Hello my valued amphetamine friends,
as my personal supply draws to a close, i would like to know which vendors beside BM & CC are fine too?
Did some new vendors appeared, which i should test?
you could try iisthisisi
its snow-white, dry and very potent, so somehow different to the stuff i got from boymaster in jan/feb. the low "bodyload" is very obvious but its a difference all in all and hard to compare. maybe its similar to cc(never tried). im pretty sure its one of the purest products around here and on the top level. take care with your mouth/teeth, my one is feeling super dry with it so i always drink some water(maybe also caus its summer/hot).
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has aynone tested the new BM's batch yet? how does it compare to the previous one?
I received it today. It's white and dry. Strong as always. :)
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I'm going to give iisthisisi I go. After the great quality from BM I'm spoiled and can't be bothered with ~50% pure "paste" any more 8)
Price seems o.k. as well...
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For euphoria, would you go with BM or iisthisisi? Been considering either BudworxUK or loveheart, but they sell paste and I doubt it would hit the spot for someone like me... I'm past the point where slamming 15cm lines all night is entertaining.
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For euphoria, would you go with BM or iisthisisi? Been considering either BudworxUK or loveheart, but they sell paste and I doubt it would hit the spot for someone like me... I'm past the point where slamming 15cm lines all night is entertaining.
Personally I would pick BM. On me it has a major physical boost (at least with the batch before the new one), and the euphoria is good. CC is good is you need to keep clear mind, because after a while with BM redosing i lost a bit of it.
iisthisisi is the perfect stuff if you need a "calmer" high. Totally focused and clear. But I think the new batch would be even better with the new % of l- and dl-amph split. it's the best stuff for me for the most easy comedown.
short said - if you have all 3 on stock you can match all of them perfectly *grins*
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Just wanted to drop in and sing the praises of the gear I just received from BM. It's bone dry and the colour is as close to pure white as I've seen on the Road.
For about a week now I've been doing 50mg doses (oral) of CCs two times a day while studying for an exam, so I have a bit of a tolerance, but a 30mg line of BMs still got me fired up like it was 1999.
Very impressive new batch, well done BM. Keep up the good work.
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Got IIS's stuff today. Totally dry and bright white. The stealth's great, but taking it out was slightly messy since there isn't a small plastic, baggy in the packaging.
Excellent quality so far, but I need a decent rest before I can judge accurately.
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Just wanted to drop in and sing the praises of the gear I just received from BM. It's bone dry and the colour is as close to pure white as I've seen on the Road.
...a 30mg line of BMs still got me fired up like it was 1999.
Very impressive new batch, well done BM. Keep up the good work.
Fully concur.
Amazingly clean. Dry and snow white. Impressed.
BM gets a gold star for this......★
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I ordered 5g from a vendor who seems to be legit. He mentions his speed is a little bit wet, but not as fluid as most of the "paste" that`s around here. I got my order really really fast, stealth was all right, but the speed was so fucking incredible wet, that it leaked through the zib-bag into the vacuum bag.
It´s been quite a mess to scratch the bags out and dry the stuff and that´s exactly what i hate to do and why i normally leave my finger of the so told "paste".
The stuff is this typical white and not too bad stuff that´s around everywhere, good to snort and with a quite good high, but after drying there were only 2.2g left. I contacted the vendor, but gave a 1/5 the same time. Do you think the 1/5 is legit in this case? I never gave another feedback than 5/5 up to know and feeling a little bad :(
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I´m waiting for some of CCs great stuff, but as always it takes decades to make it through, so I ordered 5g from another vendor, who seems to be legit. He mentions his speed is a little bit wet, but not as fluid as most of the "paste" that`s around here. I got my order really really fast, stealth was all right, but the speed was so fucking incredible wet, that it leaked through the zib-bag into the vacuum bag.
It´s been quite a mess to scratch the bags out and dry the stuff and that´s exactly what i hate to do and why i normally leave my finger of the so told "paste".
The stuff is this typical white and not too bad stuff that´s around everywhere, good to snort and with a quite good high, but after drying there were only 2.2g left. I contacted the vendor, but gave a 1/5 the same time. Do you think the 1/5 is legit in this case? I never gave another feedback than 5/5 up to know and feeling a little bad :(
It depends on the quality of the gear I guess.
But 1/5 might be a bit harsh in this case. You did receive it after all but then again the vendor did kinda lie to you.. If the listing itself doesn't say that it's a wet paste then its misleading and is worth 3/5 at the most.
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yeah, that´s right, changed from 1 to 3
All i know for sure now is, that i´ll stay with BM and CC. Would like to give IIS a try too, but he´s shipping from the Netherlands and I´m a coward :(
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Kind regards,
JunkieXXL Crew
made a test order, will see how good the product is. will report back :)
Yesterday I tested the sample what JunkieXXL sent to me, and the product was Really, Really good and clean! did not have to do mutch 2 little lines and this speed worked many hours. Made a bigger order for now.
I Recommend this vendor!
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Just a quick review of JunkieXXL´s Speed/Amphetamine listing.
Since I had previously already made some good experiences with JunkieXXL, I was happy to see the sample offer listings for 0,25g Speed/Amphetamine.
The transaction was again as easy as possible, fast in transit and delivered the next day domestic. I have ordered 5 or 6 times now, and every single order was delivered the next day (domestic), what makes JunkieXXL the fastest shipping Vendor I have experienced on the Road so far. Stealth was good too, well packed business letter, product vacuum sealed.
To the product: Really good Speed, little wet but not too much, so I only had a small weight loss when drying. Medium nose-burn and a nice, mildly euphoric high. Rather relaxing than I am used from Speed, with much less "side-effects" like nervousness and a jittery feeling in general. Bottom line: A real nice High!
And the 0,25g (maybe a little more) lasted much longer than I am used to. I simply did not have the urge to constantly snort again in a short period of time.
In general a much better Speed experience than I mostly had before.
Trustworthy, recommended vendor! Great product!
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Very pleased with first order from BoyMaster!! Subscribed.
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yeah, that´s right, changed from 1 to 3
All i know for sure now is, that i´ll stay with BM and CC. Would like to give IIS a try too, but he´s shipping from the Netherlands and I´m a coward :(
Check his listings. He has a shipping from Germany option for around $30.
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Damn, was looking forward to place my second speed order here and first order with BM to test this glorified stuff of him. Checked the price, checked my remaining Bitcoins... great just about the amount of btc i got left time to order. Then FUCK, noticed that im fucking ~0.04 BTC short (due to stupid shipping costs -.-) and dont have a way to get any BTC quickly :(
Guess i sadly have to settle with IIS or CC if the BTC exchange rate doesnt shoot up a few dollars in the next few hours even though i really feel uncomfortable with both countrys they send from. Really want to test one of these high purity offers though, had enough more or less "good" paste in the past 2 years of local purchases and want to get my hands on the real stuff. Any suggestion which one to go with regarding quality and safety (to germany)?
Anyone of the regulars here tested JunkieXXL "95% purity sulfate" stuff yet? Would be perfect if its true since it would be domestic and rather cheap. I have my doubts though since the only reviews of it up to now seem to come from accounts that have barely above 50 posts aka out of Newbie Jail and its even cheaper then CCs stuff from South Africa...
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^ check out the spare coins thread.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=65125.0
Good community here that are usually more than happy to help out people that short on coins ;)
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Not being into really potent crystal but liking a boost of real energy, I have found the "White Ice" pills from mrouid to be wonderful. Half a tab gets me going and keeps me going for most of the day. They can be crushed and snorted if you want, but I find they last much longer if you just eat them. Also, if you are going to order from him, it is well worth the extra BTC sent directly to him for the Express Post option. Takes about 3 days with this option, two weeks or more without. Canada's postal system seems to be notoriously slow.
I'm not a huge meth / speed fan, but these rock my world!
I found STUDYBUDDY has these as well: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/69f2ba53ae
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Crossposted from PFANDLEIHER RELOADED Review Thread:
Speed from Pfandleiher was tested in austria at the paradise festival.
results are:
Amphetamin 266mg/G
Coffein 497mg/G
Meth 162mg/G
I think this is really fucked up, coz there shouldnt be any METH in it.
Shiiit, maaan! :-//
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^ check out the spare coins thread.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=65125.0
Good community here that are usually more than happy to help out people that short on coins ;)
Wow i start to like this community more and more, posted there thx.
Edit: Damn i love this community, got lend 0.04 BTC in less then 1 hour after posting thats just fucking awesome. Placed and waiting for my first BM order now, fuck yeah :D
Crossposted from PFANDLEIHER RELOADED Review Thread:
Speed from Pfandleiher was tested in austria at the paradise festival.
results are:
Amphetamin 266mg/G
Coffein 497mg/G
Meth 162mg/G
I think this is really fucked up, coz there shouldnt be any METH in it.
Shiiit, maaan! :-//
If its true thats pretty fucked up indeed. I mean almost double amount of coffein compared to the amphetamine alone would be pretty fucked up already but meth is an absolute no go.
Well he most likely got busted by the police anyway and if these results are true i dont feel that bad for him anymore to be honest. (even though i never ordered something from this vendor but taking meth is really something heavy that everyone need decide for himself, and not something you are "forced" to consume without beeing able to decide for yourself while thinking you "just" take amphetamine)
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Crossposted from PFANDLEIHER RELOADED Review Thread:
Speed from Pfandleiher was tested in austria at the paradise festival.
results are:
Amphetamin 266mg/G
Coffein 497mg/G
Meth 162mg/G
I think this is really fucked up, coz there shouldnt be any METH in it.
Shiiit, maaan! :-//
YA him and AFterhours busted.
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edit: Note to self, don't drink and post.
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Got IIS's stuff today. Totally dry and bright white. The stealth's great, but taking it out was slightly messy since there isn't a small plastic, baggy in the packaging.
Excellent quality so far, but I need a decent rest before I can judge accurately.
Must be a mistake, mine came within a baggy. Did you test the product yet? I won't be able to until this weekend...
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Guess i sadly have to settle with IIS or CC if the BTC exchange rate doesnt shoot up a few dollars in the next few hours even though i really feel uncomfortable with both countrys they send from. Any suggestion which one to go with regarding quality and safety
Forgive my Noobness but why is it bad/more risky to order from Netherlands, Germany, south Africa as oppose to Spain?
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Forgive my Noobness but why is it bad/more risky to order from Netherlands, Germany, south Africa as oppose to Spain?
It's actually a good question. The only country i've really had any problems with is Australia and only for a few weeks since there was some kinda customs crackdown. I've shipped to almost every country in the world now. Only now and then has an order not showed up. I've got a perfect 100% rating. Am in the top 20% of sellers yet people are still afraid to order.
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Guess i sadly have to settle with IIS or CC if the BTC exchange rate doesnt shoot up a few dollars in the next few hours even though i really feel uncomfortable with both countrys they send from. Any suggestion which one to go with regarding quality and safety
Forgive my Noobness but why is it bad/more risky to order from Netherlands, Germany, south Africa as oppose to Spain?
In my experience it's not more risky, NL being one of the most reliable countries there is. ZA might go through customs, but since it's a business letter, it's very unlikely.
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Crossposted from PFANDLEIHER RELOADED Review Thread:
Speed from Pfandleiher was tested in austria at the paradise festival.
results are:
Amphetamin 266mg/G
Coffein 497mg/G
Meth 162mg/G
+1, well done, but honestly exactly what I would expect from these guys.
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Does anyone here knows if BM stuff is d-amph or l-amph?
As it seems like a few of you around here did test the last batch, did it felt as clean as the last one?
Peace :)
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@crystal: It's racemic, 50% dextro and 50% levo-amphetamine.
Cheers
BM
I too, was rather curious about the % mix. Thanks for the clarification Boy Master.
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Guess i sadly have to settle with IIS or CC if the BTC exchange rate doesnt shoot up a few dollars in the next few hours even though i really feel uncomfortable with both countrys they send from. Any suggestion which one to go with regarding quality and safety
Forgive my Noobness but why is it bad/more risky to order from Netherlands, Germany, south Africa as oppose to Spain?
In my experience it's not more risky, NL being one of the most reliable countries there is. ZA might go through customs, but since it's a business letter, it's very unlikely.
I guess it's also relative to what country you are receiving your mail in.
For the US, the NL is probably the worst to order from. I can tell you from personal experience. Especially if the Vendor ships from a post office which puts the wonderful city of "Amsterdam" as a postmark on all the letters processed.
I've done well over 100 orders. 6 orders never made it. 1 got seized by US Customs with "Amsterdam" on it. 2 others from NL never made it, and I just ate the loss. The 2 others were Germany. Good old Dagobert with the most famous line "I'm not the mail man!" as to no-show orders. (gotta love the guy). The other was CrystalMethCat who had some issue at the time, then returned offering to make up for anyone who left a 1, if they PM'd them with "Change" or something in the subject line. Never contacted me back, and I never changed my "1". They seem to be doing well now though. Oh well.
"Live and Learn" - That's' the only time I've ever left a "1", and I still stand by it.
Also a lot of the NL vendors (at the time, this is going back before January 2013) - didn't seem to grasp the concept of "stealth". One of them, the one that got seized. Actually asked for suggestions on what might make it through, more easily. The suggestions I gave, worked on the reship. Even got opened and closed up again, but finally made it. I checked that Vendors page a few times after, and he was up around 97%, with many comments on his improved stealth.
Many of the NL vendors were sending paste in a business letter envelope with nothing more than a baggie, and a few sheets of paper! Well, that was many months ago. Since then I found these forums, which helped me find the best Vendors. I really hated the idea of going on forums. I didn't like all the typing!!! :P - I typed at computer terminals for 25 years, long before the Internet.
South Africa? - I've probably had at least 10 orders, all made it . (All from CC ;))
Spain? - Too many to count. All made it. The most international orders I've gotten were from Spain (mostly BM ;)) but also a few vendors of different wares.
Poland I had a few all good, Belgium I used to get monthly from. Never an issue.
Also if you search for any product on the main site, and go down the list, under 'ships to' look for "Worldwide except USA" then look at what country they're shipping from. Almost all are NL, with a few UK for whatever reason.
So it's not just my opinion. It's pretty much a fact.
Peace
8) Chip 8)
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Guess i sadly have to settle with IIS or CC if the BTC exchange rate doesnt shoot up a few dollars in the next few hours even though i really feel uncomfortable with both countrys they send from. Any suggestion which one to go with regarding quality and safety
Forgive my Noobness but why is it bad/more risky to order from Netherlands, Germany, south Africa as oppose to Spain?
Its not based on bad experiences but solely on me beeing slightly paranoid about it since one is crossing real borders outside of EU (South Africa) and the other country is the most famous Drug distribution country inside the EU (Netherlands) and therefore has a potentially higher control rate of anything send from there to other countrys (specially since germany has a direct border to NL thats controlled daily by german customs from my experience and german LEs seem to step up lately with Silk Road/postal drugs looking at recent SR related busts in May and July).
As i said its probably just me beeing slightly paranoid and LEs are for sure focused on the "big fishes" and not someone who orders a gram or two, still i just feel more comfortable with other EU countrys.
cheers
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It's definately not risky shipping from South Africa.
I've had many successful orders large and small from CC and they've all arrived in decent time.
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Crossposted from PFANDLEIHER RELOADED Review Thread:
Speed from Pfandleiher was tested in austria at the paradise festival.
results are:
Amphetamin 266mg/G
Coffein 497mg/G
Meth 162mg/G
+1, well done, but honestly exactly what I would expect from these guys.
Hi müslix!
The source of the guy who posted this made a mistake and he told that it was Meth while it was really 4-MA (4-Methyl-Amphetamin) which is in my opinion not really better. There where deaths reported last year from people who consumpted Speed along with 4-MA. :-/
It´s rather a common cut these days, UNFORTUNATELY!!
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@crystal: It's racemic, 50% dextro and 50% levo-amphetamine.
Thanks for your answer, your speed seems great! I did read that this batch was a bit pink, to you happen to know why?
Thanks!
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Hi müslix!
The source of the guy who posted this made a mistake and he told that it was Meth while it was really 4-MA (4-Methyl-Amphetamin) which is in my opinion not really better. There where deaths reported last year from people who consumpted Speed along with 4-MA. :-/
It´s rather a common cut these days, UNFORTUNATELY!!
For the benefit of anyone else as fucking retarded as me (i.e. who sees an amphetamine they haven't tried and almost immediately tries to jump on it), a quote from Bluelight:
I don't know what else should I say so that it could become clear that the best idea so far is to avoid this thing. Maybe I should explain it more accurately.
MDMA, MDA and MDE have their drawbacks, but will not get you into trouble unless taken daily or for a very long time. IAP (indanylamphetamine) is maybe not the most brilliant entactogen, but won't hurt you. They're also not too dopaminergic, this is true. This thing (4-methylamphetamine) has the destructive potential of almost the same order as that of cocaine, together with being far more neurotoxic than any of the above. I have nothing to prove the latter, but am sure. Something that is exactly opposite to what you have expected, right?
Theoretical speculations, especially non-professional, like those here at BL, are most often useless and futile in attempts to discern new drugs with desirable properties without practical knowledge. Though I think I've got an example to illustrate the opposite side: wandering around without proper knowledge is a bit dangerous. I know about two different people who took 4-bromoamphetamine not knowing it's a neurotoxin. It does basically the same things, an experince that is mostly similar to MDMA/amphetamine, followed by disturbances of sleep, mood and cognition that can last up to half a year. 4-methylamphetamine doesn't get close to that level of horror, but where it does is still worrifying at the very least. Not even the 5-HT depletion such things are caused by is worrifying, but rather some things that follow it. It will hit your memory and skills up to that you could even need to relearn something, your motivation, intentionality and prudence. First two are but a grid of interneuronic connections, mostly axons and dendrites that can regenerate, not necessarily cell bodies. Three last are where the center of your identity is, the frontal lobes.
Don't play with this one. Or bromoamphetamine, for that matter...
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Are 4-methylamphetamine and/or bromoamphetamine typical byproducts from a specific method of amphetamine synthesis?
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asdasd
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The latter definitely isn't, there isn't any bromine involved.
4-MA... I highly doubt that methylating the aromatic ring would even be possible on amphetamine. Like with fluorinated amphetamines you'd most likely need to use a precursor that's already been para-methylated to get 4-MA. And that won't happen by accident or unnoticed.
I was thinking if someone was cooking up batches it their kitchen for example, but I'm glad to hear this shouldn't be the case! I like my phet to be just that; phet.
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Just ordered a few grams from CC, I can't wait to finally try out his stuff! I normally would go with BoyMaster, but my last order didn't arrive (although I did receive a 100% refund).
What's everyone's success rate with BM? I completely trust him, but I don't want to wait 2 or 3 weeks again for a refund if it doesn't make it.
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My third order from cc arrived today. The last ones have been great, but this time it seems to bee even better. Itś bone-dry, snow white and strong as hell, love it.
If i compare it with the 5g fluid shit i got the last time, the 2g of cc are the much better deal!
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Another crosspost from the PFANDLEIHER RELOADED-Review Thread:
For everyone who was doubting what i have posted about the ingedients of the Speed of PFANDLEIHER RELOADED (especially dutchaanbod), goto:
http://dbneu.checkyourdrugs.at/
getestet am: 12.7.2013
Probennummer: 64
there you can find the results i have posted. For the Rest (as i already said:)
DON´T BUY IT! 4-MA can REALLY DO HARM TO YOU! :-(
Really bad that he´s selling this stuff...
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BM's new batch with a pink tinge arrived today! Absolute champion!
Will report back after consumption..
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+1 for the new pinkie BM Batch.
Absolutely his best one in my opinion
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+1 for the new pinkie BM Batch.
Absolutely his best one in my opinion
It definitely feels like the cleanest batch so far!
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The latter definitely isn't, there isn't any bromine involved.
4-MA... I highly doubt that methylating the aromatic ring would even be possible on amphetamine. Like with fluorinated amphetamines you'd most likely need to use a precursor that's already been para-methylated to get 4-MA. And that won't happen by accident or unnoticed.
You are correct, 4-MA is not a bi-product of any known amphetamine route. You may have to start as far back as p-toluene, I don't think there are any legitimate uses for any para substituted Ph intermediates other than pharmaceutical's. Just ordered a few grams from CC, I can't wait to finally try out his stuff! I normally would go with BoyMaster, but my last order didn't arrive (although I did receive a 100% refund).
What's everyone's success rate with BM? I completely trust him, but I don't want to wait 2 or 3 weeks again for a refund if it doesn't make it.
100% success rate over maybe half a dozen orders.
Hi müslix!
The source of the guy who posted this made a mistake and he told that it was Meth while it was really 4-MA (4-Methyl-Amphetamin) which is in my opinion not really better. There where deaths reported last year from people who consumpted Speed along with 4-MA. :-/
It´s rather a common cut these days, UNFORTUNATELY!!
For the benefit of anyone else as fucking retarded as me (i.e. who sees an amphetamine they haven't tried and almost immediately tries to jump on it), a quote from Bluelight:
I don't know what else should I say so that it could become clear that the best idea so far is to avoid this thing. Maybe I should explain it more accurately.
MDMA, MDA and MDE have their drawbacks, but will not get you into trouble unless taken daily or for a very long time. IAP (indanylamphetamine) is maybe not the most brilliant entactogen, but won't hurt you. They're also not too dopaminergic, this is true. This thing (4-methylamphetamine) has the destructive potential of almost the same order as that of cocaine, together with being far more neurotoxic than any of the above. I have nothing to prove the latter, but am sure. Something that is exactly opposite to what you have expected, right?
Theoretical speculations, especially non-professional, like those here at BL, are most often useless and futile in attempts to discern new drugs with desirable properties without practical knowledge. Though I think I've got an example to illustrate the opposite side: wandering around without proper knowledge is a bit dangerous. I know about two different people who took 4-bromoamphetamine not knowing it's a neurotoxin. It does basically the same things, an experince that is mostly similar to MDMA/amphetamine, followed by disturbances of sleep, mood and cognition that can last up to half a year. 4-methylamphetamine doesn't get close to that level of horror, but where it does is still worrifying at the very least. Not even the 5-HT depletion such things are caused by is worrifying, but rather some things that follow it. It will hit your memory and skills up to that you could even need to relearn something, your motivation, intentionality and prudence. First two are but a grid of interneuronic connections, mostly axons and dendrites that can regenerate, not necessarily cell bodies. Three last are where the center of your identity is, the frontal lobes.
Don't play with this one. Or bromoamphetamine, for that matter...
Coincidentally, I've been studying the less complex substituted amphetamines quite a lot recently. 4-MA isn't really that bad on its own. It has much less affinity to D and NE transporters compared to amphetamine/methamphetamine, and it's been shown to have a lower self administration rate than the more popular amphetamines in rat studies. The problem is, those studies were done in-vitro. In reality, the serotonin release inhibits dopamine release(overproduction of serotonin invariably leads to dopamine deficiency,) resulting in something like a 4x greater release of serotonin relative to dopamine.
In real people talk; if you've ever heard of the phrase "serotonin storm," combining 4-MA with any other drug that acts on serotonin levels is a very likely way of making that happen.(cliffnote: serotonin storm quite often ends with braindead patients)
There isn't much data on the toxicology of it, but it seems to be less toxic than most amphetamines.
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Humm, CC's current batch took about 1h to hit for me and my 5 friends when we snorted it. It used to take max 10 min... Any1 know why?
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Humm, CC's current batch took about 1h to hit for me and my 5 friends when we snorted it. It used to take max 10 min... Any1 know why?
In my opinion, since when I am taking "deluxe" amphetamines, I'm not experiencing the coffeine rush that makes you think it's the amph already kicking in a few minutes.
I always get the amph plateau high after 30-45 Minutes snorted
Also the different % mix of dextro and racemic could make a difference maybe?
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Humm, CC's current batch took about 1h to hit for me and my 5 friends when we snorted it. It used to take max 10 min... Any1 know why?
Was it taken orally?
It could be because you ate it on a full stomach. Also I think the level of acidity in your stomach can vary the time it takes for it to start absorbing in your body.
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Humm, CC's current batch took about 1h to hit for me and my 5 friends when we snorted it. It used to take max 10 min... Any1 know why?
Was it taken orally?
It could be because you ate it on a full stomach. Also I think the level of acidity in your stomach can vary the time it takes for it to start absorbing in your body.
... friends when we snorted it.
:P
@CyberDMT: Environmental factor. If there is amphetamine in there, and its a powder, and it is insufflated, the time it takes to hit you will not change due to other contaminents(at least, wont noticably change)
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This new batch from BM is easily the best speed I've had from SR.
Pretty lucky to have a vendor like this cooking a drug we love..
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Humm, okay since after about 5-10 mins after we took it the feeling that we wanted to talk and needed to find something to do with our hands was there. But the feeling in the head and the rest of the body diden't came untill 50 mins later...
Also if I put it in a ez-test tube it takes serveral minuets untill it changes color aslong in I smash it with something while it's in the tube.
Edit: my theory on this is that the effects we felt after 5-10 mins was the effects from the powder we had crush enuff and the rest that was kicking in after about an hour had an "shell" or something that made it take much longer to hit. That's why it was like that when I tired it with ez-test.
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Humm, CC's current batch took about 1h to hit for me and my 5 friends when we snorted it. It used to take max 10 min... Any1 know why?
Was it taken orally?
It could be because you ate it on a full stomach. Also I think the level of acidity in your stomach can vary the time it takes for it to start absorbing in your body.
... friends when we snorted it.
:P
@CyberDMT: Environmental factor. If there is amphetamine in there, and its a powder, and it is insufflated, the time it takes to hit you will not change due to other contaminents(at least, wont noticably change)
Oh sorry. Massive fail there on my part.
I shouldn't go on Silk Road when I've taken a xanax and waiting to fall asleep. Having troubles sleeping lately :(
That's odd how it took so long to work snorted. I've had loads of different types of speed. Locally purchased also from international Silk Road sellers. It has always worked quite quickly.
It doesn't work as fast as cocaine or mephedrone, but it always starts to kick in within 10 minutes, then builds up for the next hour or 2, gradually getting stronger.
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Humm, okay since after about 5-10 mins after we took it the feeling that we wanted to talk and needed to find something to do with our hands was there. But the feeling in the head and the rest of the body diden't came untill 50 mins later...
Also if I put it in a ez-test tube it takes serveral minuets untill it changes color aslong in I smash it with something while it's in the tube.
Edit: my theory on this is that the effects we felt after 5-10 mins was the effects from the powder we had crush enuff and the rest that was kicking in after about an hour had an "shell" or something that made it take much longer to hit. That's why it was like that when I tired it with ez-test.
What was the dew point outside? And the relative humidity?. Perhaps a cold front or a trough of low pressure was afoot. Did you all remember to check the alkalinity of your saliva? Were there any other unnatural compounds in your body, like Wellbutrin or Prozac like drugs? Empty stomach or full stomach? What was the phase of the moon?
CC+BM are the best you're going to do, from my experience, and if I have my way, I'll be trying out IisthisisI really soon, now that they ship stateside!
Peace
jagfug 8)
PS Yes I'm jealous bc I don't have any. >:(
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Humm, okay since after about 5-10 mins after we took it the feeling that we wanted to talk and needed to find something to do with our hands was there. But the feeling in the head and the rest of the body diden't came untill 50 mins later...
Also if I put it in a ez-test tube it takes serveral minuets untill it changes color aslong in I smash it with something while it's in the tube.
Edit: my theory on this is that the effects we felt after 5-10 mins was the effects from the powder we had crush enuff and the rest that was kicking in after about an hour had an "shell" or something that made it take much longer to hit. That's why it was like that when I tired it with ez-test.
What was the dew point outside? And the relative humidity?. Perhaps a cold front or a trough of low pressure was afoot. Did you all remember to check the alkalinity of your saliva? Were there any other unnatural compounds in your body, like Wellbutrin or Prozac like drugs? Empty stomach or full stomach? What was the phase of the moon?
CC+BM are the best you're going to do, from my experience, and if I have my way, I'll be trying out IisthisisI really soon, now that they ship stateside!
Peace
jagfug 8)
PS Yes I'm jealous bc I don't have any. >:(
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on iisthisisi's gear.
Its good to have a veteran of this thread giving experienced reviews.
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Good day !
5 TESTERS WANTED !
We are selling since some 4 a 5 weeks PURE UNCUT PASTE...not the 41 amph we used to carry....with success !..some regulars regretted our change....most are happy.....but we thought we needed to make the change....
We have a super speed supplier now.....(..listings of 1k max are coming too.).....but... thats what a sellers says....never beleave a seller !!....lol....
so...wanted.... 5 high ranking only speed experts.... who live in this topic...we like 2 or 3 tester from Holland.......they maybe can bring some to DUTCH TESTCENTRE....We hope they can do that.....
other testers preferably from Europe...from our shipping list......
please reply here in our forum mail box or in our Sr main mail......please allow a week for reply oke.......we think not all log in daily here....
keep up the good work here...!!
thanks in advance !
good weekend !
We hope to have informed you well...
Sincerely Yours,
HollandOnline
SR
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b27491ec56
SR Forum Topic Rumor mill
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95571.msg678344#msg678344
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Good day !
5 TESTERS WANTED !
We are selling since some 4 a 5 weeks PURE UNCUT PASTE...not the 41 amph we used to carry....with success !..some regulars regretted our change....most are happy.....but we thought we needed to make the change....
We have a super speed supplier now.....(..listings of 1k max are coming too.).....but... thats what a sellers says....never beleave a seller !!....lol....
so...wanted.... 5 high ranking only speed experts.... who live in this topic...we like 2 or 3 tester from Holland.......they maybe can bring some to DUTCH TESTCENTRE....We hope they can do that.....
other testers preferably from Europe...from our shipping list......
please reply here in our forum mail box or in our Sr main mail......please allow a week for reply oke.......we are very busy and ATM in stealth mode...
keep up the good work here...!!
thanks in advance !
good weekend !
We hope to have informed you well...
Sincerely Yours,
HollandOnline
SR
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b27491ec56
SR Forum Topic Rumor mill
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95571.msg678344#msg678344
I would take you up on that offer but I am from Australia and it will take ages for it to arrive.
I will watch closely though and see what the other reviewers say.
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so much interesting things going on everywhere but so less time to follow. modern times are a blessing and curse in one. its a pity but even a 100h day wouldnt be enough....its never enough.
somehow glad i didnt test pflandleiher reloaded. have to admit that the price was really tempting(when i ordered last time)....and chose a few g from iis instead of 25g+ for a not much higher price(i was mostly distracted from the huge amounts literally screaming for supplying "local resellers" with "whatever" and not knowing the old pfandleiher(who seems to be famous/legend) the behavior etc all seemed to be somehow strange/suspicious(not starting small/with one or two products with high quality/competitive price to build a base and working routine but just trying to flood bulk through price. we see the sadly result in the extent of the bust that not really implies a high grade of care even with the own security. shit can always happen but at least you should have precautions e.g. that it does not easily qualify as "gang" making the result - i only know german law but that is used for them - much worse). afterhour was - as far as i can remember - never recommended in this thread and i blacklisted him in my brain a 3/4 year ago when i saw he offered bulk amounts of "sprayed" weed. never looked him up again. that does not imply he was a bad vendor caus it was honest stated in the description and needs are different).
not only pfandleiher got busted in short time (dont get me wrong, this is truly sad especially caus i never had any really negative experience here on sr and competition is always a benefit for everyone (spreading the concentration and risk of l.e. for the vendors(until the point competition would really get too hard/too less customers available) and leading to different/better/cheaper products for the consumers) but also it now seems to turn out you didnt get what ordered. im not mad if its cut with harmless stuff like powerade (and you know before/you have lower price. im still not sure why it didnt work out for him caus i think it was competitive in the lower quality segment especially for domestic orders. maybe family issues, maybe the risk(i have no clue but - except the cooks - i bet the getting their supply is "the old way" and always a direct to jail risk especially with source in a different country), maybe he just quit at the right time...) but getting sth - maybe very harmful - different(just to maximize profit in a game where the profit should really be high enough without doing that shit, especially caus we are here clearly not talking about the illegal black "immigrant" having no other way to survive then selling some brixed shit in the local park(as far as overheard from media (not looked up the sr info about that bust yet, maybe will do sometime) with what was confiscated i guess they would have made in a few years more than a average worker in his whole life)) is highly unethical and just sucks(you take a high risk and therefore you get paid a lot....cheating those who respect and create this opportunity(its a dependence in both ways) just to get a few dollar more is a good example for why we cant have nice things).
(caus i have not looked up about the bust here yet(i just guess its not a 5min thing to get through the related topic/posts) the info/story i got(maybe true, at least possible): smaller town and they caught the guy with the order to bring the stuff into the mail system(and they were lucky caus he talked). all in all pretty usual(but sure pretty "good" in the way of exploiting the given chance) police work and not some special "cyberunit". take care about that point when getting that big(too big?). should be somehow obvious.....)
will stick to iis and give bm (parallel) a new try when i order again. iis is magic regarding to bodyload, comedown(or im just used to it by now. dunno....it never got me to the point where i had to counter a possible od/crash(pulse/heartbeat/jitter starting to go crazy) with benzo during binging(not good i know....but i mostly binge or take nothing at all) what is/was new for me) and especially for listening and enjoying music(for me amazing in that part......true adventure. somehow like "new ears in combination with a highly music-sensitive brain"). i think its excellent if you want to keep a regular sleep pattern or over the weekend, but im not sure about the compatibility with regular work(i get quite noticeable larger pupils and would be afraid in that regard, but dunno for low amounts). the old bm stuff was magic in regard of the "sexual drive"(i liked that part very much) or for "making you stay awake forever" with very little. somehow strange how different it can be. very big plus is that it works great with bombing and i couldnt feel a benefit(like stronger impact etc) when snorting except you would like a burning nose (for me no reason to snort like i used to do with powerades stuff. i would also bet its more forgiving if you bombed too much by mistake(so too fast in a row would be more precise because its that strong that the amount i eat at once is always pretty small) but i could be dead wrong with that and "unconscious" more careful(maybe its just like with alcohol where you get a better judging to avoid true horror results that you maybe had a few times as teen).
bit off-topic:
SR tip:
if you need benzos (and you should have if you're using amp), caslava is still selling 100mg xanax powder for $15 or something. First time I ever saw benzo value for money and not assh0le ripoff 5x the cost of any pharma site.
good quality as long as you know how to dose mg's of powder...
Dudes on SR trying to sell 10x diazepam for like $30 need to be left out in the cold somewhere. Think I'll have to trawl through and see if there's anything else though.
the frontin (alprazolam) from maligan seem to be a fair deal for me and with high probability the legal ones. i mean you cant compare legal medical benzos with powder or research chemicals in the regard of price. i guess its like comparing the price of adderall to speed. so i dont want to abuse benzos and therefore the price is not really important. im sure its sth different if you take or abuse 100mg diazepam/10mg alprazolam on a single day or a regular basis or if you combine always both to get out the unpleasant effects of the amp (of course i had to try and its not a bad combo, but benzo-addiction is too dangerous.....). but thx for the tip, i guess i will order that too. seems to be a great deal.
Research chemicals? never mentioned any research chemicals. I have plentyo benzo experience. I am also aware of my threshholds. For instance 1.5 weeks of xanax at 2mg doses is my cutoff. longer than that I get a mild 5-7 day wd with fractured sleep. etizolam to me, the most euphoric pseudobenzo I've used (something like $30-40 per 100mg outside of sr).. well, I ate 250mg powder of that in 4 days and was relatively fine with no wd. I have naturally hig htolerance but I never got truly addicted to benzos and I've been using them sporadically for years. Mainly in conjunction with stim use. and I never go past 1-2 weeks of using stims so..
I've had legitimate prescription for xanax and this xanax powder produces the same effects as brand script ones for me. it's a bit tricky to dose if you've not got proper scales. I did go a bit nuts and ate the 100mg over 14 days which is where I enter the red zone of having a mild wd.. although 1 of those days was negated with phenibut.
I just thought i'd point it out because the prices onf benzodiazipines on SR are absolutely ludicrous.. but I wasn't bothered since it's easy to source benzos for reasonable prices outside of SR... I just think, when you can get a brilliant drug such as CC's speed for 50 bux, why the hell would I be paying over the odds for a handful of generic diazepams. Benzo prices here are ridiculous and it concerns all amph users who don't know any better. Stim + downers go hand in hand for me at least.
Now, if only someone could produce some damn zolpidem powder! My preferred tool, because of the incredibly short halflife there is no dulling daya fter effect to dampen ur next day use of amp.
to be frank this is to me legitimate benzo and if you're just looking for 100 doses and have some control then it's a super bargain. couldn't find it cheaper on my outside of SR sources where I usually get my benzos..
ALthough I really much prefer flunitrazepam (rohypnol) but that is quite costly ( i get it for 60 yoyo 30x centrafarm 2mg) (think i saw one listing for it on here that was 100 usd excl shipping from some dodgy guy selling 10x 1mg..). The reason I prefer it is, while I find it inferior to say the legal etizolam in euphoria.. It seems I can use it for 3 weeks without WD. as I did.
Xanax in larger doses provides long enogh sleep but then tolerance and dependence is quicker.
have to re-quote this original "SR Tip" from ohnoes123 (this is a ultimate price-breaker and has the true potential to reorganize/kill the whole benzomarket on sr). you want cheep alprazolam(and have no problem to go with some (i highly bet) chinese raw-material) this is a unbelievable deal. take care about the quantity ordering(somehow i just rushed it and took the $ amount i normally used for the safety benzos instead of ordering 100mg....). i guess i have to throw half i ordered away (and hope this/comparable stuff will still be available in a year or two) or find a good way to hide because the few times i need benzos it will take like forever for me to reduce it to the region of a "consumer amount" that is save to store at home(didnt really think of that caus i ordered "just" benzos. looks like basically nothing but l.e. would surely question some reselling if they find hundreds of tablets in your flat)......to suck two/three times the nearly invisible amount that sticks to a wet pin-head is enough for me and like a regular 1or2mg alprazolam tablet.
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so much interesting things going on everywhere but so less time to follow. modern times are a blessing and curse in one. its a pity but even a 100h day wouldnt be enough....its never enough.
somehow glad i didnt test pflandleiher reloaded. have to admit that the price was really tempting(when i ordered last time)....and chose a few g from iis instead of 25g+ for a not much higher price(i was mostly distracted from the huge amounts literally screaming for supplying "local resellers" with "whatever" and not knowing the old pfandleiher(who seems to be famous/legend) the behavior etc all seemed to be somehow strange/suspicious(not starting small/with one or two products with high quality/competitive price to build a base and working routine but just trying to flood bulk through price. we see the sadly result in the extent of the bust that not really implies a high grade of care even with the own security. shit can always happen but at least you should have precautions e.g. that it does not easily qualify as "gang" making the result - i only know german law but that is used for them - much worse). afterhour was - as far as i can remember - never recommended in this thread and i blacklisted him in my brain a 3/4 year ago when i saw he offered bulk amounts of "sprayed" weed. never looked him up again. that does not imply he was a bad vendor caus it was honest stated in the description and needs are different).
not only pfandleiher got busted in short time (dont get me wrong, this is truly sad especially caus i never had any really negative experience here on sr and competition is always a benefit for everyone (spreading the concentration and risk of l.e. for the vendors(until the point competition would really get too hard/too less customers available) and leading to different/better/cheaper products for the consumers) but also it now seems to turn out you didnt get what ordered. im not mad if its cut with harmless stuff like powerade (and you know before/you have lower price. im still not sure why it didnt work out for him caus i think it was competitive in the lower quality segment especially for domestic orders. maybe family issues, maybe the risk(i have no clue but - except the cooks - i bet the getting their supply is "the old way" and always a direct to jail risk especially with source in a different country), maybe he just quit at the right time...) but getting sth - maybe very harmful - different(just to maximize profit in a game where the profit should really be high enough without doing that shit, especially caus we are here clearly not talking about the illegal black "immigrant" having no other way to survive then selling some brixed shit in the local park(as far as overheard from media (not looked up the sr info about that bust yet, maybe will do sometime) with what was confiscated i guess they would have made in a few years more than a average worker in his whole life)) is highly unethical and just sucks(you take a high risk and therefore you get paid a lot....cheating those who respect and create this opportunity(its a dependence in both ways) just to get a few dollar more is a good example for why we cant have nice things).
(caus i have not looked up about the bust here yet(i just guess its not a 5min thing to get through the related topic/posts) the info/story i got(maybe true, at least possible): smaller town and they caught the guy with the order to bring the stuff into the mail system(and they were lucky caus he talked). all in all pretty usual(but sure pretty "good" in the way of exploiting the given chance) police work and not some special "cyberunit". take care about that point when getting that big(too big?). should be somehow obvious.....)
will stick to iis and give bm (parallel) a new try when i order again. iis is magic regarding to bodyload, comedown(or im just used to it by now. dunno....it never got me to the point where i had to counter a possible od/crash(pulse/heartbeat/jitter starting to go crazy) with benzo during binging(not good i know....but i mostly binge or take nothing at all) what is/was new for me) and especially for listening and enjoying music(for me amazing in that part......true adventure. somehow like "new ears in combination with a highly music-sensitive brain"). i think its excellent if you want to keep a regular sleep pattern or over the weekend, but im not sure about the compatibility with regular work(i get quite noticeable larger pupils and would be afraid in that regard, but dunno for low amounts). the old bm stuff was magic in regard of the "sexual drive"(i liked that part very much) or for "making you stay awake forever" with very little. somehow strange how different it can be. very big plus is that it works great with bombing and i couldnt feel a benefit(like stronger impact etc) when snorting except you would like a burning nose (for me no reason to snort like i used to do with powerades stuff. i would also bet its more forgiving if you bombed too much by mistake(so too fast in a row would be more precise because its that strong that the amount i eat at once is always pretty small) but i could be dead wrong with that and "unconscious" more careful(maybe its just like with alcohol where you get a better judging to avoid true horror results that you maybe had a few times as teen).
bit off-topic:
SR tip:
if you need benzos (and you should have if you're using amp), caslava is still selling 100mg xanax powder for $15 or something. First time I ever saw benzo value for money and not assh0le ripoff 5x the cost of any pharma site.
good quality as long as you know how to dose mg's of powder...
Dudes on SR trying to sell 10x diazepam for like $30 need to be left out in the cold somewhere. Think I'll have to trawl through and see if there's anything else though.
the frontin (alprazolam) from maligan seem to be a fair deal for me and with high probability the legal ones. i mean you cant compare legal medical benzos with powder or research chemicals in the regard of price. i guess its like comparing the price of adderall to speed. so i dont want to abuse benzos and therefore the price is not really important. im sure its sth different if you take or abuse 100mg diazepam/10mg alprazolam on a single day or a regular basis or if you combine always both to get out the unpleasant effects of the amp (of course i had to try and its not a bad combo, but benzo-addiction is too dangerous.....). but thx for the tip, i guess i will order that too. seems to be a great deal.
Research chemicals? never mentioned any research chemicals. I have plentyo benzo experience. I am also aware of my threshholds. For instance 1.5 weeks of xanax at 2mg doses is my cutoff. longer than that I get a mild 5-7 day wd with fractured sleep. etizolam to me, the most euphoric pseudobenzo I've used (something like $30-40 per 100mg outside of sr).. well, I ate 250mg powder of that in 4 days and was relatively fine with no wd. I have naturally hig htolerance but I never got truly addicted to benzos and I've been using them sporadically for years. Mainly in conjunction with stim use. and I never go past 1-2 weeks of using stims so..
I've had legitimate prescription for xanax and this xanax powder produces the same effects as brand script ones for me. it's a bit tricky to dose if you've not got proper scales. I did go a bit nuts and ate the 100mg over 14 days which is where I enter the red zone of having a mild wd.. although 1 of those days was negated with phenibut.
I just thought i'd point it out because the prices onf benzodiazipines on SR are absolutely ludicrous.. but I wasn't bothered since it's easy to source benzos for reasonable prices outside of SR... I just think, when you can get a brilliant drug such as CC's speed for 50 bux, why the hell would I be paying over the odds for a handful of generic diazepams. Benzo prices here are ridiculous and it concerns all amph users who don't know any better. Stim + downers go hand in hand for me at least.
Now, if only someone could produce some damn zolpidem powder! My preferred tool, because of the incredibly short halflife there is no dulling daya fter effect to dampen ur next day use of amp.
to be frank this is to me legitimate benzo and if you're just looking for 100 doses and have some control then it's a super bargain. couldn't find it cheaper on my outside of SR sources where I usually get my benzos..
ALthough I really much prefer flunitrazepam (rohypnol) but that is quite costly ( i get it for 60 yoyo 30x centrafarm 2mg) (think i saw one listing for it on here that was 100 usd excl shipping from some dodgy guy selling 10x 1mg..). The reason I prefer it is, while I find it inferior to say the legal etizolam in euphoria.. It seems I can use it for 3 weeks without WD. as I did.
Xanax in larger doses provides long enogh sleep but then tolerance and dependence is quicker.
have to re-quote this original "SR Tip" from ohnoes123 (this is a ultimate price-breaker and has the true potential to reorganize/kill the whole benzomarket on sr). you want cheep alprazolam(and have no problem to go with some (i highly bet) chinese raw-material) this is a unbelievable deal. take care about the quantity ordering(somehow i just rushed it and took the $ amount i normally used for the safety benzos instead of ordering 100mg....). i guess i have to throw half i ordered away (and hope this/comparable stuff will still be available in a year or two) or find a good way to hide because the few times i need benzos it will take like forever for me to reduce it to the region of a "consumer amount" that is save to store at home(didnt really think of that caus i ordered "just" benzos. looks like basically nothing but l.e. would surely question some reselling if they find hundreds of tablets in your flat)......to suck two/three times the nearly invisible amount that sticks to a wet pin-head is enough for me and like a regular 1or2mg alprazolam tablet.
That definitely looks like an Amphetamine-fuelled post. Lol
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That definitely looks like an Amphetamine-fuelled post. Lol
highly probably ;)
good example how a "just 5 min" answer ends in a textwall....stay away from the forum lol.
(i have to do that now/force me anyway. good night.)
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That definitely looks like an Amphetamine-fuelled post. Lol
highly probably ;)
good example how a "just 5 min" answer ends in a textwall....stay away from the forum lol.
(i have to do that now/force me anyway. good night.)
It's all good nomnom1 ~!
You don't visit often, but you always make up for lost time! ;D
Of course Dingo has to 'quote' it to really take up the page! :P
It's all good too. I'm coming back to amphetamine lane real soon. I got off at the Methland exit in June, and got lost! :o
You want to see some long ones! I left some over there that were more like dissertations! ;D
Live and learn! - I feel like I'm missing one of the best Amph months! I'll be back.
8) Chip 8)
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That definitely looks like an Amphetamine-fuelled post. Lol
highly probably ;)
good example how a "just 5 min" answer ends in a textwall....stay away from the forum lol.
(i have to do that now/force me anyway. good night.)
Haha enjoy it. I know exactly what it's like.
You come on and think of a million things you want to share with everyone.
I will have to get on the speed on the weekend. I haven't used it much lately. Done a bit of mephedrone, but not much else recently. A break is always good though.
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Well i had an order with CC something like 2 or 3 months ago which ended up being refunded. Now since then i stopped using that add just in case, and as long as it had been on this order i stopped checking. I just happened to be in the neghborhood today so i decided to check and whadya know theres a goddamn present sittin there!!!!! The only amph ive had is MrImporter's so i dont have much for comparison, but this shit i would say may be slightly higher quality. It seemed like it had a minimal moisture content, and it came out of the bag in little chunks. Off white, after 40mg i was zoomin!!
I really like how mellow of a buzz it has; feels real easy on the body. Now just gotta get in touch with CC about that wrongfuly refunded money.
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Well i had an order with CC something like 2 or 3 months ago which ended up being refunded. Now since then i stopped using that add just in case, and as long as it had been on this order i stopped checking. I just happened to be in the neghborhood today so i decided to check and whadya know theres a goddamn present sittin there!!!!! The only amph ive had is MrImporter's so i dont have much for comparison, but this shit i would say may be slightly higher quality. It seemed like it had a minimal moisture content, and it came out of the bag in little chunks. Off white, after 40mg i was zoomin!!
I really like how mellow of a buzz it has; feels real easy on the body. Now just gotta get in touch with CC about that wrongfuly refunded money.
That's a great story! I remember that happened with Knomo too. I'm sure that will make CC's day!
I wouldn't change addresses over that, but that's me. I've had 5 gone missing. One intercept w/Love letter from Uncle Sam. Still here! :P
That's out of approx 125 orders.
That definitely sounds like the right description for CC's batch 2-3 mos ago, I remember it well! ;)
Enjoy!
8) Chip 8)
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Well i had an order with CC something like 2 or 3 months ago which ended up being refunded. Now since then i stopped using that add just in case, and as long as it had been on this order i stopped checking. I just happened to be in the neghborhood today so i decided to check and whadya know theres a goddamn present sittin there!!!!! The only amph ive had is MrImporter's so i dont have much for comparison, but this shit i would say may be slightly higher quality. It seemed like it had a minimal moisture content, and it came out of the bag in little chunks. Off white, after 40mg i was zoomin!!
I really like how mellow of a buzz it has; feels real easy on the body. Now just gotta get in touch with CC about that wrongfuly refunded money.
That's a great story! I remember that happened with Knomo too. I'm sure that will make CC's day!
I wouldn't change addresses over that, but that's me. I've had 5 gone missing. One intercept w/Love letter from Uncle Sam. Still here! :P
That's out of approx 125 orders.
That definitely sounds like the right description for CC's batch 2-3 mos ago, I remember it well! ;)
Enjoy!
8) Chip 8)
:o Jesus, dude. I've probably spent more, but damn do you make a lot of orders. I've barely gotten half that number in an entire year...
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I don't think there is a way to put this delicately, so:
Do you guys also feel the heavy need to take a dump just minutes after railing an every day dose of amph?
Happens every time which I find kinda odd because in a fight flight freeze situation (which amph makes your body feel) feeling the urge to do so won't really help you out :D
It's from an off-line source, yet as clean as can be according to it's melting point. So it shouldn't be laxatives causing this :D
I don't normally snort amphetamine. I eat it. But when I snort coke or mephedrone (especially mephedrone), just as I start to feel the rush, I gotta take a shit.
Then I need another line, because the rush from the first one was ruined!
It's quite common. It's because stimulants are laxatives. Caffeine can give you direah. Just not as hard-hitting or quick an onset as snorting gives you.
SO it would definitely be normal and common for amphetamine to make you have to go to the toilet.
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I have a question for the chemists among us...
Pure amphetamine should be without any smell if I'm correct. How come the speed from the pure/uncut suppliers (CC/BM/ISS) still has a very potent smell?
I used to but the Dutch paste cut with caffeine and wash it myself with acetone, that would result in extremely white, fluffy, odorless material.
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Because its not pure.
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I have a question for the chemists among us...
Pure amphetamine should be without any smell if I'm correct. How come the speed from the pure/uncut suppliers (CC/BM/ISS) still has a very potent smell?
I used to but the Dutch paste cut with caffeine and wash it myself with acetone, that would result in extremely white, fluffy, odorless material.
I can't answer your question but I gotta say, BM's latest batch has very little smell to it but is as potent as ever.
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Not been on forum much for a while ,good to see it still goin strong and best of all at last few genuine sellers who are reliable with real quality sulph .Bm still main with couple others coming close on all accounts ,keep it up guys all good . :o
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Hey guys, anyone here with experience on BM shipping times to Germany?
I placed my order on Sunday and it was set into transit a few hours later, so lets assume it was send on monday its been 6 working days now. Unfortunately still nothing arrived yet and i really start to worry that it got "lost" in transit or even got seized by customs. Do i have to be worried already or have anyone experienced that long transit times to Germany? I read through about 15-20 pages of Feedback on BMs profile and there were people saying it just took 3 days to UK and even 6/7 days to US and i cant imagine why it should take a longer time to Germany from Spain then to the US. I really hope the post is just working veeeeery slow and nothing happend to my letter :'(
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Hey guys, anyone here with experience on BM shipping times to Germany?
I placed my order on Sunday and it was set into transit a few hours later, so lets assume it was send on monday its been 6 working days now. Unfortunately still nothing arrived yet and i really start to worry that it got "lost" in transit or even got seized by customs. Do i have to be worried already or have anyone experienced that long transit times to Germany? I read through about 15-20 pages of Feedback on BMs profile and there were people saying it just took 3 days to UK and even 6/7 days to US and i cant imagine why it should take a longer time to Germany from Spain then to the US. I really hope the post is just working veeeeery slow and nothing happend to my letter :'(
Did you order with priority mail or normal?
In the last times BM delivery was quicker than normal for me (using priority email, 4-5 days), but in the past months it's already happened it took more than one week. I won't say you have to worry for now, this delay is still acceptable, and BM stealth is pretty OK for Europe region.
Keep the faith ;)
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Hey guys, anyone here with experience on BM shipping times to Germany?
I placed my order on Sunday and it was set into transit a few hours later, so lets assume it was send on monday its been 6 working days now. Unfortunately still nothing arrived yet and i really start to worry that it got "lost" in transit or even got seized by customs. Do i have to be worried already or have anyone experienced that long transit times to Germany? I read through about 15-20 pages of Feedback on BMs profile and there were people saying it just took 3 days to UK and even 6/7 days to US and i cant imagine why it should take a longer time to Germany from Spain then to the US. I really hope the post is just working veeeeery slow and nothing happend to my letter :'(
I'm feeling with you, mate. I'm waiting for an order from Germany to Germany and it's been 3 days since it shipped. Usually it shouldn't take that long. Let's hope it's just the postal service being slow.
Keep us updated.
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Did you order with priority mail or normal?
In the last times BM delivery was quicker than normal for me (using priority email, 4-5 days), but in the past months it's already happened it took more than one week. I won't say you have to worry for now, this delay is still acceptable, and BM stealth is pretty OK for Europe region.
Keep the faith ;)
normal mail no priority. I definitely have faith in BM and his stealth specially since its just from EU to EU, im not sure though about my faith in every postal worker. Maybe i should go and check out my postman to see if he looks like a potential BM customer 8)
I'm feeling with you, mate. I'm waiting for an order from Germany to Germany and it's been 3 days since it shipped. Usually it shouldn't take that long. Let's hope it's just the postal service being slow.
Keep us updated.
Sure will do. Lets hope its just German mail processing that sucks, wouldnt surprise me at all to be honest >:(
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Ahhh so I finally have the new chunky pink & dry BM, chunky and bone-dry CC, and now dry powdery iisthisisi. Add some very pure cocaine, lots of ambien, ativan, and xanax....it seems like i am set for too long. I love how the ambien will completely remove the phet's effect if it ever gets too much. All these three sellers have perfected their product and we are reaping the reward of it all! It's a shame most people here in the US get freaked out when you bring a powder out that is not cocaine even though you explain to them that its just the adderall you are all on! Its a shame not many people truly understand how awesome it is to have pure product. I have such a high tolerance I'm just going to give cc/bm/isi a group high five!
PS. isthisisi great packaging but i almost (did a little) spill a bit out when opening -- maybe can you add an extra layer if you know what I mean? But once shipped, faster than BM/CC so yeah!
Update: isthisisi's smell/tastes reminds me of MrFireUK from back in the day. Not saying anything about quality, but the smell is very familiar to whatever cut he used. It smells like flour kinda? Anyone know?
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Finally received my order from BM after 8 Days to Germany. As described before dry and slightly pink. It became almost completely white a few minutes after chopping though.
Not really tested yet, railed a small line about half an hour ago, dont feel a major rush by now but thats probably because my tolerance is quite high at the moment and im not sure how much to take/how much one line is in mg since i dont have a scale. I am pretty responsible on consuming though thats why i might be overly careful since i havent bothered too much about milligrams up to now as all i had in my 2 years of amphetamine experience was more or less good paste where you tend to just rail up 1 or 2 big ones and dont think in terms of 40-50mg so any help on how to estimate ~50mg via a small pile or size of lines would be much appreciated.
Here is the part where i sadly have to put a little complaint about BMs processing: On the letter is a stamp with a lot of spanish words i dont understand and a Date. Even though i dont understand any spanish im pretty sure this Date on the stamp is the Date it was send and this date is the 18.07. which would mean it only took in fact 3 working Days to my Door what is very good. Well it would be very good if BM wouldnt have put the order "in transit" on SR a few hours after ordering it on Sunday. Dont get me wrong i dont have ANY problem with waiting a week or two for the product if the quality is as advertised, and i dont have ANY problem with it beeing put in transit 4 days after ordering. What i have a problem with though is the fact it has been set "in transit" but not beeing send for another 4 days simply because you start to worry about your letter for no reason. It would have been way better and easier for me as a customer to know it just havent been send yet instead of wondering what could possibly happened to my letter for several days.
cheers
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BM knocked at my door as well today. 4 working days. Really fast.
I already tested his pinky batch, this was a refill to stock enough for a few months, since in the last time the customs checks (especially in Germany) seems to be alerted.
The stealth of the letter is OK but could be a little improved, but more secure than a lot of other sellers anyway.
@yaggayagga - as you can see, no reason to panic ;) Actually BM maybe sent it on monday but has been processed on the postal office only later. I understand your concerns, but I think any delivery < 7 days to EU is absolutely nothing to worry, there are so many variable in the postal system.
I prefer to take oral the BM speed, it's boosting me a lot more in a very stable way for pretty a long time. 40mg are more than enough, despite my medium tolerance. Snorting 20mg would be enough for a nice few hours kick. BM is not giving excessive rush, also because it's a 50/50 mix of dextro and racemic, but amazing clear mind with a good euphoric mood. It keeps your body going anyway without problems as well if you use it for party/dancing/etc ;)
A very rough estimation of 20mg would be a line of 20mm x 3mm ;)
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So after having a decent go at BM's new batch including missing 2 nights sleep, apart from being tired im feeling very minimal negative effects.. No bad moods or cloudy head or physical fatigue.
Im beyond impressed with this batch, it blew any expectations out of the water. Thanks BM, looking forward to the next production!
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My feedback at BoyMaster :
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=40826.msg1367488#msg1367488
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anyone tried FASTWAYS or tonicwater speed and can compare it to BM and CC (after drying)? Both are vendors for less than a month and both started off pretty good with speed listings (well, fastways got a promotion from dutchtrade).
I checked all reviews of tonicwater and it seems that their speed isn't really top of the top quality and is overall a bit more wet than a normal paste should be, but still considering the price (for example, 25g for 135$) it's very cheap.
also fastways (25G for 150$) is very cheap, but looks like that the boost from DT helped him A LOOOT, if you check his selling history, his first sold item was 100g, and in last 15 days he sold about 10KG (at least) with just 100g listing. surely that cannot be faked.
but what bothers me, is that nobody is mentioning fastways in forum, also his review thread is empty (but it's true he doesn't link to it on vendor profile page).
all in all, I'd like to know any feedback from anybody buying from fastways (and tonicwater), about quality and specially about weight loss by fastways?
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this paste is all the same kind of shit
and its not even cheap, if you loose the common 40% - 60% while drying
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I ordered a few times in my past speed paste (but not from the seller you said). But I agree with Sappaloth. It COULD BE a decent speed, but I really doubt could reach even close the purity it claims to be. Plus you loose a lot of weight, at least 1/3. It's just good if you resell stuff to locals. if it's for your personal use then go with the seller we all know ;)
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The answer is simple.
We already have McDonalds, Burger King, and Wendy's (BM, CC,+ IITII) - Why would we go to Pasty Dutch Burger shack? ;)
From a totally American perspective (something I'm unfashionably proud of), it's like baseball. 3 strikes, you're out!
When there's 3 that are arguably the BEST, you're going to have to get out of the paste business, and come to dry land to even begin thinking about being considered.
IMHO of course. Your mileage may vary.
peace
8) Chip 8)
PS Stole jagfugs line there :-[
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Hello guys
I'm looking for 50gr of Speed. I saw two vendors who are offering some speed for a low price.
FASTWAYS (DutchTrade Friend)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/24970fbd72
&
Meyer Lansky
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/393cdc92c8
I know nothing about speed!
Meyer Lansky is selling some pink speed. Is it a guarantee of quality or something like that ?
Both price are practically the same. So which guy can you recommend me ?
Thanks in advance ;-)
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Definitely go with the stuff that's already been dried, maybe give MethylonDE a message? He's the only other vendor than The 3 Kings [CC, BM and iisthisisi] who sells dry speed; currently only iisthisisi of those who has listings up unfortunately.
You'd certainly be getting a better deal with 10g iisthisisi [or potentially even with MethylonDE, but we don't have lab results for that] than with 10g paste listing. Also, I'd be worried about paste leaking through the packaging!
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Definitely go with the stuff that's already been dried, maybe give MethylonDE a message? He's the only other vendor than The 3 Kings [CC, BM and iisthisisi] who sells dry speed; currently only iisthisisi of those who has listings up unfortunately.
You'd certainly be getting a better deal with 10g iisthisisi [or potentially even with MethylonDE, but we don't have lab results for that] than with 10g paste listing. Also, I'd be worried about paste leaking through the packaging!
I'm looking buying speed for resell not for a personal use. Dried speed is really too expensive for resell :/
No one already tried FastWays or Meyer stuff ?
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Definitely go with the stuff that's already been dried, maybe give MethylonDE a message? He's the only other vendor than The 3 Kings [CC, BM and iisthisisi] who sells dry speed; currently only iisthisisi of those who has listings up unfortunately.
You'd certainly be getting a better deal with 10g iisthisisi [or potentially even with MethylonDE, but we don't have lab results for that] than with 10g paste listing. Also, I'd be worried about paste leaking through the packaging!
How is 10g for 220$ (iisthisisi) better than 50g speed paste for also 220$, if you consider the paste to be (taking fastways as an example) the same purity as dried speed? In this comparison, I take into account that fastways bussinis is blooming (no bad reviews), and that speed paste loses at maximum 60%, so you're left with 50*0.4 = 20g dried speed.
I got some (and I beleive it really was) pure speed paste from locally, it was reaaally good, first time I took it I snorted maximum 200-250mg in 4 hours, and after the last line I didn't sleep for about 9 hours, had crawlings on my body (felt really nice, was at home), and then when I didn't went to bed, I spent whole next day awake and can't say I felt very tired.
Consider this, every dry speed was a speed paste at first ;)
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How is 10g for 220$ (iisthisisi) better than 50g speed paste for also 220$, if you consider the paste to be (taking fastways as an example) the same purity as dried speed?
Because we don't expect any paste to be as pure as >90% amphetamine after drying. Rip-off is the basic concept of selling paste. There's absolutely no other reason to sell paste. Drying doesn't even take half a day. So if you want to offer a high purity product it won't be paste.
edit: also you obviously want to deliver a "fastways' stuff is the bomb... buy from fastways... I <3 fastways" message with your post.
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got my part of BM's pink batch. The speed was highest quality as always, not euphorical, but gives you energy and focus. Learn to use it productively and it works wonders.
The stealth sucked, as before. The odour stealth is very good, but the overall appearence of the package and the physical stealth leaves a lot of room to improvement.
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How is 10g for 220$ (iisthisisi) better than 50g speed paste for also 220$, if you consider the paste to be (taking fastways as an example) the same purity as dried speed?
In this comparison, I take into account that fastways bussinis is blooming (no bad reviews), and that speed paste loses at maximum 60%, so you're left with 50*0.4 = 20g dried speed.
But those 20g is not nearly the same quality as the stuff from IIsthisisi.
They might be stronger than 50% amphetamine, but with vendors like BM CC or Iisthisisi, you are paying for something else than the amount of amphetamine. You are also paying for the absence of caffeine, meth, lactose, and all those other cuts.
I got some (and I beleive it really was) pure speed paste from locally, it was reaaally good, first time I took it I snorted maximum 200-250mg in 4 hours, and after the last line I didn't sleep for about 9 hours, had crawlings on my body (felt really nice, was at home), and then when I didn't went to bed, I spent whole next day awake and can't say I felt very tired.
If you are not a hardened speed user, I can guarantee that you would never use 200-250 mg of high purity amphetamine in 4 hours!!!
I consider myself a casual user, with a tendency to use a little too often, and i would never do more than 100 mg a day, of the stuff you can get from Iisthisisi!
If you ever decide to try what pure amphetamine feels like, I advice you to be very cautious!
Consider this, every dry speed was a speed paste at first ;)
This is entirely incorrect!
The fact is that amphetamine can exist in 2 forms. The base (which is an oil), and the salt (which is an entirely dry, crystalline powder).
What you are calling "speed" is actually amphetamine sulphate, and this is actually the speed base, that have been attached to a sulphate group, and thereby become a salt (this is a simplified explanation).
So when you are talking about "speed paste" you are actually talking about a product that should be dry, and the reason that it is in any way wet, is either that the producer have been lazy, and left a shitload of chemicals in it, or that the middleman have cut solvents, or other fluid into it.
This means that even though you dry your "speed paste" it is likely still filled with unwanted impurities that you have no possible way of identifying!
This makes your trip feel very dirty, gives a bad hangover, and is likely a lot more unhealthy in general.
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Nice post Candy.
and 200-250mg in 4 hours of 90%> amph is pretty hardcore also for a speed user with high tolerance :P
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Nice post Candy.
and 200-250mg in 4 hours of 90%> amph is pretty hardcore also for a speed user with high tolerance :P
yepp signing this! ...it is and it is no fun ,-)
But maybe it is better for them not to buy the highly pure amph. I have seen friends going heroic and then fall very deep with 90% plus speed.
The thing is you will not realize until it is too late and then you are praying for a benzo or two...
Paste pep is fun and it is perfect for the most, that are used to it. But I would not sell speed in highest grade to normal party folks without a clue what a speed OD can make to you.
take care
12345
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Because we don't expect any paste to be as pure as >90% amphetamine after drying. Rip-off is the basic concept of selling paste. There's absolutely no other reason to sell paste. Drying doesn't even take half a day. So if you want to offer a high purity product it won't be paste.
edit: also you obviously want to deliver a "fastways' stuff is the bomb... buy from fastways... I <3 fastways" message with your post.
True that. Yes, maybe I did mention fastways a lot, but it's because you rarely see a vendor hitting the road so successfully ;)
But those 20g is not nearly the same quality as the stuff from IIsthisisi.
They might be stronger than 50% amphetamine, but with vendors like BM CC or Iisthisisi, you are paying for something else than the amount of amphetamine. You are also paying for the absence of caffeine, meth, lactose, and all those other cuts.
So, if we take into account (hypoteticaly) that those speed paste's being sold are 72% pure (= 100% purity, if I understand correctly, no added impurities), they're still weaker than the dried speed?
I have to say my knowledge of speed isn't perfect, because on the streets, everyone prefers speed paste and that kind of gets under your skin. I always hated it because of drying, but since a few weeks ago when I kind off got close to the source, I'd say I'm sure the paste was pretty close to pure, as everyone acknowledged big holes in their sleep ritual (even when there's no party). Also, I didn't get any dripping out of my nose (the kind you get when you sniffed speed mixed with lactose), and it burned more than any other speed before.
This is entirely incorrect!
The fact is that amphetamine can exist in 2 forms. The base (which is an oil), and the salt (which is an entirely dry, crystalline powder).
What you are calling "speed" is actually amphetamine sulphate, and this is actually the speed base, that have been attached to a sulphate group, and thereby become a salt (this is a simplified explanation).
So when you are talking about "speed paste" you are actually talking about a product that should be dry, and the reason that it is in any way wet, is either that the producer have been lazy, and left a shitload of chemicals in it, or that the middleman have cut solvents, or other fluid into it.
This means that even though you dry your "speed paste" it is likely still filled with unwanted impurities that you have no possible way of identifying!
This makes your trip feel very dirty, gives a bad hangover, and is likely a lot more unhealthy in general.
This buzzed me for a long time - after speed is produced (in a lab), it can be dried (I know most of them don't dry it), but all in all it could be easily dried and sold like that, without any bad side effects? And are there any tests (like marquis for mdma) for caffeine and other stuff mixed in speed (don't really need to test lactose, not harmful :) )?
If you are not a hardened speed user, I can guarantee that you would never use 200-250 mg of high purity amphetamine in 4 hours!!!
I consider myself a casual user, with a tendency to use a little too often, and i would never do more than 100 mg a day, of the stuff you can get from Iisthisisi!
If you ever decide to try what pure amphetamine feels like, I advice you to be very cautious!
So, advised dosage of BM, itsishi etc. amphetamine is about 20-30mg per line? And at what dosage can one say that he will experience amph overdose (never had it, don't know much about it)? I have to say that 100mg per day seems very little, what do you do when you're on it? Are you at parties or are you at home working etc? It's big difference between staying awake and have energy at home and at parties (techno, schranz, ...), where I mostly sniff a lot of speed due to the fact, that speed doesn't gives you any extra feelings (like alcohol, mdma if you know what I mean). At home I would surely use 3-4 times less speed to keep me working.
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So, if we take into account (hypoteticaly) that those speed paste's being sold are 72% pure (= 100% purity, if I understand correctly, no added impurities), they're still weaker than the dried speed?
I always hated it because of drying, but since a few weeks ago when I kind off got close to the source, I'd say I'm sure the paste was pretty close to pure, as everyone acknowledged big holes in their sleep ritual (even when there's no party).
This buzzed me for a long time - after speed is produced (in a lab), it can be dried (I know most of them don't dry it), but all in all it could be easily dried and sold like that, without any bad side effects?
So, advised dosage of BM, itsishi etc. amphetamine is about 20-30mg per line? And at what dosage can one say that he will experience amph overdose (never had it, don't know much about it)?
Sorry about editing your post :)
Vendors advertising speed paste as 72% or 100% pure are either ignorant or lying. Even if the liquid present in the paste was not a cutting agent and instead perhaps a solvent left over from the synthesis, it would still count as an impurity and thus the speed would not be 100% pure. If the weight of your paste is reduced by (for example) 50% due to evaporation when left in the open, the original purity was at most 50%. It's probably even less since other adulterants are common in speed paste, especially caffeine seems to be ever-present.
When speed bought on the street causes longer-lasting effects than normal it's often because it's been spiked with methamphetamine (or some other drug with a longer half-life than regular amphetamine) to make it seem more potent.
Regarding the dosage, the general recommendation is to start low and see how your body reacts. You can get a pretty good idea of what is a good dose by comparing with common doses of pharmaceutical amphetamines (like Adderall) prescribed for ADD and whatnot.
For what it's worth, when my tolerance is at its lowest I get pretty buzzed from less than 20mg of CCs or BMs product snorted. If I were to snort 200mg instead because I was used to street speed, I would have a very bad time.
edited for clarity
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Also, I didn't get any dripping out of my nose (the kind you get when you sniffed speed mixed with lactose), and it burned more than any other speed before.
Amphetamine sulphate doesn't burn in your nose at all. What makes it burn is impurities. Burning is NOT a sign of quality nor strength.
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There is much difference between cut street speed and high purity BM / CC speed. Street speed in Europe is commonly lower than 20% purity, whereas BM or CC speed is at least 80% of maximum purity.
So if you normally half 200mg of street speed, you're only going to need 50mg of BM / CC speed.
I am a semi-regular and experienced speed user. Never had a proper overdose, but I had a mild overdose and it isn't pleasant. You get overstimulated and the high is ruined because you just want it to wear off. A benzo always comes in handy at times like these.
IMO an occasional speed user should start with 30 - 40mg BM / CC.
A heavier user should start with 50 - 100mg, depending on tolerance and their size, etc.
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Does anyone know when BM will be making new listings?
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got my part of BM's pink batch. The speed was highest quality as always, not euphorical, but gives you energy and focus. Learn to use it productively and it works wonders.
I wanted to say I have noticed the same thing. Im not getting any Euphoric effects but nice energy focus, then again it is speed not coke. But sisnce im not well versed in speed, Do you think this laack of ephoria is a sign of high quality since Amphetamine Sulphate isnt typically a "high euphoria" substance?
What im getting at is, if someone was looking for somthing similar to BM's quality with a little more euphoria and less L-Amp energy is there a better product like CC for that?
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I have a question for you experienced AMP heads! Two questions actaully.... Do you find that good Amp Sulphate from BM,CC etc is as good or better (in anyway) than Pharm grade Amphetamine ie adderall, generic mixed Amp etc? Or if you had an endless suply of Pharm grade adderall would you ever buy any "street amp"?
#2 I took some of BM new pink batch and needed to measure it out without scale so I used an precise amount of warm water to dissolve it in. Measured out the water in equal parts and poured the liquid unto tiny sheets of tinfoil. Baked in the over on low heat (around 200F degrees) no higher for about an hour till it was dry. scrapped it back up to powered and separated. it worked good to measure but the powder is now white as snow, its lost all that pinkish color and smell. If Im not mistaken it feel a bit weaker also, but could just be in my head. Did I ruin the batch by heating it to these temperatures or by dissolving it in water like that?
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http://dbneu.checkyourdrugs.at/
getestet am: 12.7.2013
Probennummer: 64
finally! the database is back!! waiting for ages, thanks Acen!
Here's the opinion of a close friend of mine regarding isi, cc, bm:
isi's is, just like the last batch, by "far" the best, almost no bodyload, but nice soft bodyhigh which is very pleasant. Best batch of amph since isi's last batch. Purity guess >95%. Fine white, not chunky powder. Best amph on SR (maybe ever). Rating: isi > cc > bm. cc and bm share the #2 spot though quality wise, but CC is cheaper, so he gets #2.
Can anyone bring me up to speed (pun intended) with the new vendors? NL seems to be back big time. Richthofen sells "BM-speed" (dont know the new batch) also from Spain(?!).
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got my part of BM's pink batch. The speed was highest quality as always, not euphorical, but gives you energy and focus. Learn to use it productively and it works wonders.
I wanted to say I have noticed the same thing. Im not getting any Euphoric effects but nice energy focus, then again it is speed not coke. But sisnce im not well versed in speed, Do you think this laack of ephoria is a sign of high quality since Amphetamine Sulphate isnt typically a "high euphoria" substance?
What im getting at is, if someone was looking for somthing similar to BM's quality with a little more euphoria and less L-Amp energy is there a better product like CC for that?
Yepp speed is not coke and coke is not speed =)
But if you lack the euphoria it is in my opinion not the speed's fault. Take two or three bumps of speed and the make the endorphins flow out of your brain. Do something that makes you happy. For me it is the flirt thing of two human beings getting connected to each other. Believe me if you get happy every stimulant begins to shine.
But once again and I will not get tiered to state this. Beware of getting stuck in amphetamines ... they become evil and WILL "beat you in your ass" , stay healthy and do not overdo them.
take care
12345
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listen to 12345, always wise posts hehe.
I agree about the euphoria things anyway. In fact when I'm taking amph alone to do jobs or things I don't want to, I'm more focused on this than else. But if I'm in a "social mood", then i take my mobile and just start writing to lot of people, or go out and do things, so I could call it euphoria for me.
I always used to take amph for party only in my past, in the latest year I also use them occasionally just as boredom killer or to be more productive. It's not a problem, but if I take amph for more than 3 consecutive days (also on low dosages, with a few hours sleep in between) I can feel the evil and my mood / natural happiness / energy / drop badly on low levels. Probably due the lack of dopamine.
Any1 know a working dopamine integrator? I used to think 5-htp was a valid help, but at the end it's just giving you seratonine dropping your dopamine even more ;)
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Sorry about editing your post :)
Vendors advertising speed paste as 72% or 100% pure are either ignorant or lying. Even if the liquid present in the paste was not a cutting agent and instead perhaps a solvent left over from the synthesis, it would still count as an impurity and thus the speed would not be 100% pure. If the weight of your paste is reduced by (for example) 50% due to evaporation when left in the open, the original purity was at most 50%. It's probably even less since other adulterants are common in speed paste, especially caffeine seems to be ever-present.
When speed bought on the street causes longer-lasting effects than normal it's often because it's been spiked with methamphetamine (or some other drug with a longer half-life than regular amphetamine) to make it seem more potent.
Regarding the dosage, the general recommendation is to start low and see how your body reacts. You can get a pretty good idea of what is a good dose by comparing with common doses of pharmaceutical amphetamines (like Adderall) prescribed for ADD and whatnot.
For what it's worth, when my tolerance is at its lowest I get pretty buzzed from less than 20mg of CCs or BMs product snorted. If I were to snort 200mg instead because I was used to street speed, I would have a very bad time.
edited for clarity
No problem, thanks for informations. Well, I didn't consider the moisture lost when drying speed paste to be impurities, just thought of it as extra water?
Well, if 20mg is a nice line, then I'd say that buying this amphetamine pays off. Hopefully I'll get some extra money soon to buy one of these CC,BM itsishi listings soon.
Also, I didn't get any dripping out of my nose (the kind you get when you sniffed speed mixed with lactose), and it burned more than any other speed before.
Amphetamine sulphate doesn't burn in your nose at all. What makes it burn is impurities. Burning is NOT a sign of quality nor strength.
So if I snort just amphetamine sulphate, it should totally not burn my nose or just a little burn or how much? This is kind of opposite to what I have thought of till now. The "pure" speed paste I was telling about, burned quite good, the way it makes your eye watery (which is pretty much :) )
There is much difference between cut street speed and high purity BM / CC speed. Street speed in Europe is commonly lower than 20% purity, whereas BM or CC speed is at least 80% of maximum purity.
So if you normally half 200mg of street speed, you're only going to need 50mg of BM / CC speed.
I am a semi-regular and experienced speed user. Never had a proper overdose, but I had a mild overdose and it isn't pleasant. You get overstimulated and the high is ruined because you just want it to wear off. A benzo always comes in handy at times like these.
IMO an occasional speed user should start with 30 - 40mg BM / CC.
A heavier user should start with 50 - 100mg, depending on tolerance and their size, etc.
Yes, but those 200mg I was telling about were 3-4 lines (which makes it somehow equivalent to BM, CC, ...) I know what street speed is like, we once did 0.5g lines and hardly felt anything (the taste you get when speed goes down your throat was reaaally hardly present).
Really have to test some of this SR amphetamine, because I normally trust internet (specially SR) community and forums a lot better than some semi-random guys IRL who are all smart about drugs etc., but really being scammed over and over again, and then over time everybody belives in this stuff and that's the time when speed paste suddenly becomes preferred option :(
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Sorry about editing your post :)
Vendors advertising speed paste as 72% or 100% pure are either ignorant or lying. Even if the liquid present in the paste was not a cutting agent and instead perhaps a solvent left over from the synthesis, it would still count as an impurity and thus the speed would not be 100% pure. If the weight of your paste is reduced by (for example) 50% due to evaporation when left in the open, the original purity was at most 50%. It's probably even less since other adulterants are common in speed paste, especially caffeine seems to be ever-present.
When speed bought on the street causes longer-lasting effects than normal it's often because it's been spiked with methamphetamine (or some other drug with a longer half-life than regular amphetamine) to make it seem more potent.
Regarding the dosage, the general recommendation is to start low and see how your body reacts. You can get a pretty good idea of what is a good dose by comparing with common doses of pharmaceutical amphetamines (like Adderall) prescribed for ADD and whatnot.
For what it's worth, when my tolerance is at its lowest I get pretty buzzed from less than 20mg of CCs or BMs product snorted. If I were to snort 200mg instead because I was used to street speed, I would have a very bad time.
edited for clarity
No problem, thanks for informations. Well, I didn't consider the moisture lost when drying speed paste to be impurities, just thought of it as extra water?
Well, if 20mg is a nice line, then I'd say that buying this amphetamine pays off. Hopefully I'll get some extra money soon to buy one of these CC,BM itsishi listings soon.
Also, I didn't get any dripping out of my nose (the kind you get when you sniffed speed mixed with lactose), and it burned more than any other speed before.
Amphetamine sulphate doesn't burn in your nose at all. What makes it burn is impurities. Burning is NOT a sign of quality nor strength.
So if I snort just amphetamine sulphate, it should totally not burn my nose or just a little burn or how much? This is kind of opposite to what I have thought of till now. The "pure" speed paste I was telling about, burned quite good, the way it makes your eye watery (which is pretty much :) )
There is much difference between cut street speed and high purity BM / CC speed. Street speed in Europe is commonly lower than 20% purity, whereas BM or CC speed is at least 80% of maximum purity.
So if you normally half 200mg of street speed, you're only going to need 50mg of BM / CC speed.
I am a semi-regular and experienced speed user. Never had a proper overdose, but I had a mild overdose and it isn't pleasant. You get overstimulated and the high is ruined because you just want it to wear off. A benzo always comes in handy at times like these.
IMO an occasional speed user should start with 30 - 40mg BM / CC.
A heavier user should start with 50 - 100mg, depending on tolerance and their size, etc.
Yes, but those 200mg I was telling about were 3-4 lines (which makes it somehow equivalent to BM, CC, ...) I know what street speed is like, we once did 0.5g lines and hardly felt anything (the taste you get when speed goes down your throat was reaaally hardly present).
Really have to test some of this SR amphetamine, because I normally trust internet (specially SR) community and forums a lot better than some semi-random guys IRL who are all smart about drugs etc., but really being scammed over and over again, and then over time everybody belives in this stuff and that's the time when speed paste suddenly becomes preferred option :(
... we have some good chemists here in our community maybe one could please please please enlighten us once again. (I know you have done it before in this thread but too lazy to find it right now)
Basically it is about the last "washing", "purifying" steps when you make speed. If I remember right, we was told that the paste is just the basic reaction to make speed. To get more clean, potent or pure (whatever) product you have to make further steps.
And then there comes the point the following steps cost time and therefor money. It is simply not economical to make high grade speed for the big fishes.
*pure_speculation_now*
You can buy kilos of paste basically to any time you want. But I never saw high grade amph in this amount. So it looks like the cartels, rockers or who ever make the big batches of speed make much more money if they just do what they do.
Make quality speed paste that is around 40-50% pure amphetamine.
Maybe the last process is time consuming or does not fit in the big scale of processing it ... I really do not know.
And the do not need to.
Not everyone is willing to buy high grade for a 4 times higher price.
Go back 2 decades in time. If you bought speed in 100-500g amounts you got "maybe" a little gram or two for your own stash. This was a big sack of yellowish speed, dry and stinky like hell. But the 1 or 2 grams were the stuff you just took a little matchstick nose and had a blast.
I have no clue if it was as pure as the good batches from i.e. BM but we were told it is the same speed, just purified and to be careful.
But maybe some chemists come and clear things up. I am none.
take care
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Greetings
I will be putting up the full listings again on the 1st of August. I am going to be releasing this batch at special low prices to encourage people who are afraid to order to get an order in so that they can see just how quick and painless it can be :)
Prices will be as follows:
1g- $24
2g- $44
5g- $99
10g- $170
The above prices already include the SR commission so it is a very very good deal for this kind of quality.
Best regards
CC
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I've never had Amphetamine, am I missing out?
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CC strikes back! and what an amazing price. If the quality is still the same of the last batch (and I have no doubt about that) it's for sure a summer deal to NOT miss! ^^
thanks for the update
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Greetings
I will be putting up the full listings again on the 1st of August. I am going to be releasing this batch at special low prices to encourage people who are afraid to order to get an order in so that they can see just how quick and painless it can be :)
Prices will be as follows:
1g- $24
2g- $44
5g- $99
10g- $170
The above prices already include the SR commission so it is a very very good deal for this kind of quality.
Best regards
CC
You just made my day. August 1 is perfect. I knew it would be a little while anyway before I'd be able to order from you (don't want more than one letter out there at a time in case the awful happens). 2 for $44 is perfect. At that price, I should be able to share with some friends who usually pass out before I'm ready to call it a night. I like amphetamine and have only heard good things about your amphetamine. Hope to be making a purchase with you soon, CC.
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Greetings
I will be putting up the full listings again on the 1st of August. I am going to be releasing this batch at special low prices to encourage people who are afraid to order to get an order in so that they can see just how quick and painless it can be :)
Prices will be as follows:
1g- $24
2g- $44
5g- $99
10g- $170
The above prices already include the SR commission so it is a very very good deal for this kind of quality.
Best regards
CC
Will you be shipping to Aus at that point?
If not, does anyone know when BM will have listings up? :(
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Any1 know a working dopamine integrator? I used to think 5-htp was a valid help, but at the end it's just giving you seratonine dropping your dopamine even more ;)
You could look into CDP choline. There is research showing that it upregulates your dopamine receptors which means it makes them more sensitive to dopamine.
I did do quite extensive research on minimizing amph harm and what I learned is that brain chemistry is very easily put off balance, so you need to be careful with stuff like this. Take breaks, sleep well, eat well adn don't binge. Take your speed orally,so you don't feel the need to redose as much.
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http://dbneu.checkyourdrugs.at/
getestet am: 12.7.2013
Probennummer: 64
finally! the database is back!! waiting for ages, thanks Acen!
Here's the opinion of a close friend of mine regarding isi, cc, bm:
isi's is, just like the last batch, by "far" the best, almost no bodyload, but nice soft bodyhigh which is very pleasant. Best batch of amph since isi's last batch. Purity guess >95%. Fine white, not chunky powder. Best amph on SR (maybe ever). Rating: isi > cc > bm. cc and bm share the #2 spot though quality wise, but CC is cheaper, so he gets #2.
Can anyone bring me up to speed (pun intended) with the new vendors? NL seems to be back big time. Richthofen sells "BM-speed" (dont know the new batch) also from Spain(?!).
I hate to agree with you, but with the recent reports of BM's pink speed's quality and another Spain seller with pink speed that looks identical, coupled with the fact that BM mentioned this pink batch won't last long, I think BM is using his name to sell someone else's speed:
Just take a look: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/ba6cb654a4
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/b821e3de8e
got my part of BM's pink batch. The speed was highest quality as always, not euphorical, but gives you energy and focus. Learn to use it productively and it works wonders.
I wanted to say I have noticed the same thing. Im not getting any Euphoric effects but nice energy focus, then again it is speed not coke. But sisnce im not well versed in speed, Do you think this laack of ephoria is a sign of high quality since Amphetamine Sulphate isnt typically a "high euphoria" substance?
What im getting at is, if someone was looking for somthing similar to BM's quality with a little more euphoria and less L-Amp energy is there a better product like CC for that?
Given what I said, CC is so far the most reliable seller. His product is always very strong and perfectly textured. His latest batch is amazing, and the prices unbeatable. BM...what's the deal?
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Greetings
I will be putting up the full listings again on the 1st of August. I am going to be releasing this batch at special low prices to encourage people who are afraid to order to get an order in so that they can see just how quick and painless it can be :)
Prices will be as follows:
1g- $24
2g- $44
5g- $99
10g- $170
The above prices already include the SR commission so it is a very very good deal for this kind of quality.
Best regards
CC
+1
Great prices. I will be getting in on that as soon as you ship to Australia again.
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I've never had Amphetamine, am I missing out?
Yes. Order some and give it a try :)
It's a good drug, but be careful not to overdo it. it can be addictive.
If you've never tried drugs before, the energy it gives cannot be explained.
It is in a way similar to cocaine. The high is similar, but weaker than cocaine and lasts much, much longer.
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Can someone fill me in as to what is the difference between speed and speed pep?
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Review for JunkieXXL's Amphetamine Sulfate >95% Purity
Received 3 days after ordering, 5/5 for extremely fast delivery ;D
Stealth 5/5 Again, blends in perfectly with and normal/junk mail :-*
Packaging 3/5 The first ziplock bag had leaked into the outer packaging, a bit of a mess, white fingers and a lot of scraping were required to get everything out. Think you really need to heat seal the first bag...
Maybe the vendor would like to comment? ;)
Weight 5/5 Now, I don’t have scales, but after drying out and getting together, everything looks bang on, 100% as described. :)
Ordered 2.5g these pics will give a rough idea of what it looks like dried out. :)
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/WWri.jpg
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/NIGQ.jpg
Quality 5/5 The first thing you notice is the very strong smell, now some folk say this is in no way indicative of quality, personally, as a regular social user, always found the good stuff tends to stink a bit.
You can liken this stuff to the premium German car bands, not your average street speed, I have been a regular social user for many years and this stuff is strong, the vendor is being totally honest when they say you should use sparingly, packed a 50mg capsule and lasted about 4 hours. Very, very good speed. ;D
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/VS6c.jpg
Overall, I highly recommend this vendor! 8)
Also posted on vendors official review thread.
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I've never had Amphetamine, am I missing out?
Yes. Order some and give it a try :)
It's a good drug, but be careful not to overdo it. it can be addictive.
If you've never tried drugs before, the energy it gives cannot be explained.
It is in a way similar to cocaine. The high is similar, but weaker than cocaine and lasts much, much longer.
Yeah, I do plan on ordering some. It is really difficult to get here domestically.
I have been trying for years to get my Psychiatrist to prescribe me Adderall to go along with my Xanax.
But she doesn't believe in combos and believes this would add to my anxiety.
Which is unfortunate, because I believe it would be the perfect combination for myself.
Thankfully I have the SR.
I have plenty experience with tons of substances. Including many pseudo-stimulants and enactogens.
Great comparison on the Cocaine though, especially the fact that it lasts much longer.
Recently I have also been looking into 4-FA. That seems like another viable candidate.
Either way, I appreciate the response.
Vanquish
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Review for JunkieXXL's Amphetamine Sulfate >95% Purity
Received 3 days after ordering, 5/5 for extremely fast delivery ;D
Stealth 5/5 Again, blends in perfectly with and normal/junk mail :-*
Packaging 3/5 The first ziplock bag had leaked into the outer packaging, a bit of a mess, white fingers and a lot of scraping were required to get everything out. Think you really need to heat seal the first bag...
Maybe the vendor would like to comment? ;)
Weight 5/5 Now, I don’t have scales, but after drying out and getting together, everything looks bang on, 100% as described. :)
Ordered 2.5g these pics will give a rough idea of what it looks like dried out. :)
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/WWri.jpg
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/NIGQ.jpg
Quality 5/5 The first thing you notice is the very strong smell, now some folk say this is in no way indicative of quality, personally, as a regular social user, always found the good stuff tends to stink a bit.
You can liken this stuff to the premium German car bands, not your average street speed, I have been a regular social user for many years and this stuff is strong, the vendor is being totally honest when they say you should use sparingly, packed a 50mg capsule and lasted about 4 hours. Very, very good speed. ;D
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/VS6c.jpg
Overall, I highly recommend this vendor! 8)
Also posted on vendors official review thread.
Looks great.
I was going to buy a gram from JXXL until I noticed he doesn't ship to Aus :(
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I've never had Amphetamine, am I missing out?
Yes. Order some and give it a try :)
Recently I have also been looking into 4-FA. That seems like another viable candidate.
Either way, I appreciate the response.
Vanquish
4-FA is a great stimulant, very grounded yet euphoric with a great body high. It lasts ages too, so you only need to dose once. The comedown is pretty smooth, unless you've overdone it, in which case you will have a small price to pay. I found it just fizzles out as opposed to a sudden drop off, which is a big plus for me.
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So if I snort just amphetamine sulphate, it should totally not burn my nose or just a little burn or how much? This is kind of opposite to what I have thought of till now. The "pure" speed paste I was telling about, burned quite good, the way it makes your eye watery (which is pretty much :) )
That's right. When it's pure enough you'll feel hardly anything at all aside from the sensation of "it being there".
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[Crossposted from the HollandOnline-Review-Thread:]
Hello Community, Hello HollandOnline!
hope ya´ll doin´ well... :DD
Finally here is a really short review for that Purchase here: "10 gr UNCUT - PURE - DUTCH PEP / SPEED H.Q." :
Came in VERY wet, all in all 10,9G (with bag), so i guess the bag weighed 0,9G which is perfectly fine for me. :) Then i let the bag stay open several days (i think its was like 3 or 4 days) and everytime i was weighing the whole bag again, it lost some of the humidity, so that in the end there were just 5G (WITH bag!!) which were left over which is a bit disappointing for me even if i knew i was buying Paste off of him and that it will loose weight.
Regarding the quality: I *really* am a former addictive to Speed and were selling amphetamines in my hometown as well, coz we used to live close to the border (to Holland, just 20 Minutes to VENLO, hahaaa.. ;-)) and Prizes were REALLY crazy so that you could earn sth. with it. Whatever, i am telling you people this, to let you know that i can judge good speed from bad apart, and overall i would say it was good speed. Really not the best i´ve ever had (due to the amount i sniffed through the years this would be a Problem anyways, hehe...) but it did its job. Now i am thinking to wash the Rest i have here with anhydrous Acetone, to see if any cuttings, which are soluble in acetone (i.e. caffeine) are thrown into the speed. We´ll see, maybe i do this tomorrow...
All in all it was good experience buying off of him, the only thing i don´t liked was the high prize in the end. Coz´ i payed sth. like almost 90€ for almost 5G and even if this is good speed, this is too much for me! But i will be the king @ the festival coming Friday next week (www.nature-one.de) with that kind of quality i guess, hehe...
Last thing i have to mention, is: HO was friendly throughout the whole process and even if his answer took 2 or 3 days he replied to every single message i was writing him.
Hope that helps you people deciding to buy off HollandOnline or not! :-D
PEACE,
-Acen!
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Any1 know a working dopamine integrator? I used to think 5-htp was a valid help, but at the end it's just giving you seratonine dropping your dopamine even more ;)
You could look into CDP choline. There is research showing that it upregulates your dopamine receptors which means it makes them more sensitive to dopamine.
I did do quite extensive research on minimizing amph harm and what I learned is that brain chemistry is very easily put off balance, so you need to be careful with stuff like this. Take breaks, sleep well, eat well adn don't binge. Take your speed orally,so you don't feel the need to redose as much.
thanks, that's a good info, I wasn't aware about CDP Choline. I've scouted a bit around and it seems apparently to be a valid theory.
As you said, nothing is better than breaks and healty lifestyle. Luckily in 3 days without amph I am normally able to back on my own energy and stable mood.
But sometimes it's needed to push a bit more, summer is a busy time, therefore if I can help body & brain with Integrators is always a plus.
Grrets,
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Last night I got a chance to try speed from Budworx UK.
It arrived as a completely drenched paste.. The wettest I've ever seen from SR. Upon drying it lost over 50% weight which was disappointing. It's a bit of a misleading listing.
As for the high, after taking BM and CC gear lots recently I gotta say you could really notice the caffeine edginess pretty quickly after railing but once that subsides you can feel the amp. The pure sulphate high is much more calm compared to this paste. I don't drink coffee either so probably more sensitive to caffeine.
From this experience I would leave budworx speed as a last resort.
Hello there,
Sorry that you did not have a good experience in ordering from us. When its in a pure paste form its meant to be kept in the freezer. We shouldn't have sent it out as pure as we did, we have since allowed it some time and is now perfectly set in its pure form and is rocket fuel. We suggest that if you add some powdered glucose to dilute the strength if you are not used to its purity.
Here are some reviews we have had since its setting, and one that received the paste:
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"Another successful transaction with Budworx, by far the most reliable vendor I've dealt with. Cheers!"
"All Good ,Happy Days ..., ./ /"
"Mate, Mate, Mate, Fucking fuck yes. funny thing
is I'd already been on the trot with a bit of OK paste off and on over the weekend, it was decent but no comparison, esp w/ energy level and focus. But as soon as I caught site of this you could tell its a whole different tweaking kettle of tweaky fish altogether. The steaths good and that, nice and legit looking only thing I'd say without trying to give anything away, it's it's really wet.like you can swim in it, and that wet is stinky as all fuck. The good kind of stink tho, not the bullshit kind. Some people reckon dryer stuff is better cause you get more weight, I always thought wet seemed better, fresher. not decomposed or whatever.
But yer, when you open it up your house starts fuming like some sort of petrol station quick smart :)
Anyway, couldn't tell any smell in the post tho.
I'm fucking beaming off this stuff, and maybe chatting a bit much. it's great. I just wish I'd gotten some buds as well before sleepy time. I thought I'd have some saved before this come, but no, just an austerity joint or maybe a bucket. Will enjoy it anyway. and sort it out some green too next time. Cheers, top work mate." - This guy is in a far away country and we sent him prior setting like yourself.
"Wonderful speed & delivery so quick- thank you"
"Excellent, friendly speedy service. Very impressed"
"Arrived Internationally on time, amazing stealth and lovely product. Thanks Heaps"
"fast deliv, good bit of gear!"
"Top seller - Very Professional! "
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If you care to message us on SR to confirm who you are and we will send you a few grams on the house (of the set hardened product of course), sorry again that you were not satisfied with the product.
Kind regards
Bud
Bit of an update. I've been in contact with Budworx and I'm happy that he has offered to redeem himself for this disappointing experience. Thank you for being a stand up vendor mate.
Will update again once resend is up my nostrils.
Just wanted to thank Budworx. The resend he promised arrived and he actually sent 5g of dry product!
Quality is decent too!
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Just a heads up guys!
IF you order from MAXHAELAAR you will most probably have problems! DO NOT ORDER FROM THIS GUY!!!
He ships NON-STEALTH envelopes that get seized and doesn't give a shit about his customers! Thank God the police didn't show up! >:(
Maxhavelaar promises REFUNDS THAT ARE NEVER HANDED OUT, DISAPPEARS for months and says "the situation is resolved for me"!!! >:(
This vendor still owes me 7BTC!! >:(
DON'T DO THE SAME MISTAKE AS I DID BECAUSE OF "GOOD PRICES"! If he has your money he won't give a shit about you!
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Im in need of a vendor that sells amphetamine to the states at a good price without having to FE, I'm looking to purchase a test run of 100g and if that is all good will be getting a few kilos at a time, this is very important, if anyone could help please let me know, I have already spoken with fastways and they are not shipping to the states for some reason, tonicwater will however they require FE but this is not my cash, I could afford losing out on a FE screwup if it were my money but if i screw up with other's cash there is a good chance I will wind up shot and left in the woods.
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Just a heads up guys!
IF you order from MAXHAELAAR you will most probably have problems! DO NOT ORDER FROM THIS GUY!!!
He ships NON-STEALTH envelopes that get seized and doesn't give a shit about his customers! Thank God the police didn't show up! >:(
Maxhavelaar promises REFUNDS THAT ARE NEVER HANDED OUT, DISAPPEARS for months and says "the situation is resolved for me"!!! >:(
This vendor still owes me 7BTC!! >:(
DON'T DO THE SAME MISTAKE AS I DID BECAUSE OF "GOOD PRICES"! If he has your money he won't give a shit about you!
I have refunded Tzaba Via in the amount of dollars. Of course, because it took so long, he wanted a refund in BTC! So basically when the BTC goes up, i have to refund the total in BTC and if the BTC goes down, I have to refund in the dollar value. Tzaba Via spent a number of dollars to buy my products, this is what he got in return, i work on small margins. So Tzaba Via if you want to speculate on the bitcoin, don't put it in escrow, just keep it in your wallet. You got your $.
I am awaiting test results on Friday for my new batch, which has a return guarantee if its less than 60% lab test. How i will prove this i will keep under wraps right now, but stay tuned for getting seriously tweaked.
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I'm going to have to back Max on this one. A guy comes on with a low post count, nobody knows who he is, talking trash. I knew it was suspicious.
That and I personally worked with Max to help him bring his stealth up to speed, so I know that has to be either false or from a really long time ago.
As Abraham Lincoln said,
"You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.” ;D
Looking forward to the new listings! If there's one pasta I'll still buy, it's MaxHavelaar. 8)
Peace
jagfug
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OK, well this thread is looking good!
Looks like another good month of speed coming up! CC is set to return Aug 2nd (I think) - just in time for payday !
So iisthisisi, CC, and does anyone know when Boymaster plans to return? - I plan on sampling a few different vendors, and writing my own reviews.
At least with this thread, there's some testing behind the product. Getting a little depressing in the Meth scene lately. To much garbage going around, and virtually no testing. I guess I could invest in a Reagent test kit, or one like it. Let's see if I can dial back my receptors with Amph.
Can't wait to go shopping on Friday!
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Just a heads up guys!
IF you order from MAXHAELAAR you will most probably have problems! DO NOT ORDER FROM THIS GUY!!!
He ships NON-STEALTH envelopes that get seized and doesn't give a shit about his customers! Thank God the police didn't show up! >:(
Maxhavelaar promises REFUNDS THAT ARE NEVER HANDED OUT, DISAPPEARS for months and says "the situation is resolved for me"!!! >:(
This vendor still owes me 7BTC!! >:(
DON'T DO THE SAME MISTAKE AS I DID BECAUSE OF "GOOD PRICES"! If he has your money he won't give a shit about you!
I have refunded Tzaba Via in the amount of dollars. Of course, because it took so long, he wanted a refund in BTC! So basically when the BTC goes up, i have to refund the total in BTC and if the BTC goes down, I have to refund in the dollar value. Tzaba Via spent a number of dollars to buy my products, this is what he got in return, i work on small margins. So Tzaba Via if you want to speculate on the bitcoin, don't put it in escrow, just keep it in your wallet. You got your $.
I am awaiting test results on Friday for my new batch, which has a return guarantee if its less than 60% lab test. How i will prove this i will keep under wraps right now, but stay tuned for getting seriously tweaked.
Oh, Max! I wonder, how come you answered so fast this time?
Is it maybe because there are other people watching and you need some marketing because your products/services aren't good enough for you to have steady customers?
I told you to come speak to me and find a common resolution or ground to stand on. Yet you chose to ignore all my messages and acted like a small-time scammer wanting to cheaply win some BTC for yourself.
When a vendor fucks a seller's refund rate, loses his time, ignores him while having burnt his address AND having stolen his money with fake promises, I think the unhappy client has the right to share this information with the community and to complain.
If what I'm saying wasn't true I would have absolutely no reason to be here giving a shit about you. Especially given your superficial, rude and opportunistic personality.
I spent at the time a considerable amount of money with you, Maxhavelaar, and nothing came through. Thus, I am merely just WARNING people here not to the same mistake as I did.
Acknowledging one's mistake is the first step to not making them again, but from what I see this is unfortunately a process you don't adhere to or at least don't understand.
There are plenty of other vendors who won't give you the shit you did when an order doesn't make it.
Good vendors show their true value not only in their accepting orders and when everything's going fine, but mostly when something goes wrong and they have to take a hit to make things right and to keep working with you. And you have none.
It is not my fault if you haven't taken the time or energy to build a neat insurance plan for your little business and prefer ignoring people or going into stealth instead of doing what's right.
If your services and products are as good as you claim, then I guess you shouldn't have to defend yourself as they *should* speak for themselves right?
But that can only happen IF they reach their destination. But, I guess the 1/5 and the 4/5 on your profile are there for a certain reason, aren't they?
And not to mention previous shitty feedback, buried with and by time. Is that what you're trying to do with these previous feedback on your profile as well?
As for your message, Jagfug.
I do not know you, but if for you, truth lies in the equation: "post count = intelligence/right to speak", I am solemnly sorry. Sorry that you have to take up with yourself and your false sense of superiority because of post count.
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Hey fellas, whats crackin? :D
Been so busy lately.. no time for SR or drugs really.. But next week my vacation will start and I will properly enjoy it 8)
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As for your message, Jagfug.
I do not know you, but if for you, truth lies in the equation: "post count = intelligence/right to speak", I am solemnly sorry. Sorry that you have to take up with yourself and your false sense of superiority because of post count.
I'm not one to judge by post count normally, but when it's a huge "scammer" claim, and someone's just out of 'newbie jail' as the saying goes. It has all the hallmarks of some lone disgruntled customer. Also the fact that I read Max's FB page, and only saw one "1" on there the rest 5/5, so that's what I based it on.
You two have whatever you have between you, I was just speaking up, because I dealt with the vendor, on an intercepted package of mine. (DHS/Customs), and helped come up with ideas on improving his stealth, which he did. Blew me away in fact. And I got the reship, and subsequent orders.
So is it true, that he paid you back the dollar value that you spent? Was it that you wanted BTC value as opposed to dollar value? That seems to be the crux of the matter.
I wouldn't normally get involved, but I've had a good vendor/buyer relationship with him, and didn't want to see his name dragged through the mud if it wasn't true.
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Hey fellas, whats crackin? :D
Been so busy lately.. no time for SR or drugs really.. But next week my vacation will start and I will properly enjoy it 8)
KNOMO !!
Good to see a familiar (if still scary) face!
I was just asking SelfSoverignty the other day, "What happened to guys like Knomo?" :) All suspicious and sketchy about it, as I'm known to get.
Well all the greats were here the past month, and I MISSED OUT. Though I plan on making up for it this weekend, as my vacation is August as well.
Now where the hell is Shamiroquai ?? :P
Peace 8)
jagfug
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maybe better dont go for the masses, go for the experts.
when i ordered from issi (he just took the first 1g listings up) i just ordered 3x1g. i have no scale but from the amount he was totally fair and i guess he gave me the price he added for the 5g listings a few days later.
the potential of the stuff was very very strong. im sure it could be compared to 30g from powerade. i guess i binged 2 weeks long within a 3-4 day sleep....
only thing i have to give to the stuff from powerade have been those monter-orgasm i dont get with it. dont knwo from what, but in that single point it was superior. all the rest isnt even comparable to issis product. (so take care about tolerance running up pretty fast. im sure after some days i was nearly 0,5/1g day. nice holiday. haha, then i used the 500mg xanax and sleept for 3-4days(felt like a grandpa). now i feel pretty normal again <3
protip.: never combine with beer, or you will pretty sure fuck your teeth. i only ate max one time per day and always brushed teeth after it. drinking only water(a lot).
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HollandOnline was kind enough to send me a tester and I said I'd post my thoughts here.
It arrived lightning fast (~2 days) within Europe and came almost completely dry, though the bag needed to be left open for a couple of hours. The sample was generous and smelled strongly of chemicals - similar to the stuff I used to get in Germany.
The body load's quite high with this and I noticed that dosing heavily enough to get the brain going later on resulted in heavy sweating when I'd start moving later on (e.g. cycling home). The euphoria's nice, though, and more present than with the pure stuff I got from other vendors. The vendor seems nice enough, too.
It's pretty good speed, though probably not the same purity as with other, more well known vendors. For that reason the price is a little high. If you can avoid the bodyload from redosing/dosing heavily, it's good fun, though.
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protip.: never combine with beer, or you will pretty sure fuck your teeth. i only ate max one time per day and always brushed teeth after it. drinking only water(a lot).
fuck your teeth in which way? why should beer make it any worse?
I'm seriously wondering as I used to have the most awesome teeth which seemingly changed recently as I'm afraid I have to see a dentist soon. :-\
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Hi SpeedHeads, this is a little off-topic but since it could be related, I would like to ask your opinion or if you know similar issue.
Friend of mine seems unable to feel any MDMA effects.
I have a really good brown crystal batch I used already on other occasions, and 90-120mg was more than enough for me and other people to roll properly.
I've tought she never took a good dosage or good stuff, so I took with her 130mg. After 45 minutes, I was already feeling the effects and we took another 50mg since she wasn't feeling anything.
I was on a clearly mdma high with big pupils. She was still completely normal with normal pupils. She took another 100mg, and after 45 minutes another 100mg. Total 380mg in < 3 hours.
Absolutely nothing. And she was able to sleep 2 hours later.
Since she is using a few days during the week (for work purpose) amphetamines or occasionally meth, someone reported this issue could be related to the cross-tolerance (since amph/meth raises mdma tolerance as well), but she is not such a heavy users with high tolerance (and she is also < 60kg!).. But such dosage of 380mg should kick in also in someone with high-tolerance. All other drugs (mushrooms, ghb, ..) are working with normal dosage for her.
Sidenote: she used to take Fluoxetine, and this nullify the mdma effects, but she was not taking it since 30+ days. I've read max 3-5 days without are enough to feel again mdma effect.
What do you think? amphetamines could really raise the tolerance so much of mdma? I don't think it's safe to raise even more the dosage.
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That's a strange one mate. I feel sorry for her not being able to enjoy MDMA.
I've spent 5 days in a row on amp and taken MDMA and the roll was as good as ever so I doubt it's anything to do with that.
It could easily be due to the prolonged use of fluoxetine.. That seems like a logical explanation.
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Hey guys and girls
I am forced to postpone putting up my listings by only a few days. It will go up early next week at the lower prices promised. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
Best Regards
CC
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Hey guys and girls
I am forced to postpone putting up my listings by only a few days. It will go up early next week at the lower prices promised. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
Best Regards
CC
That's a shame. Hope everything's fine on your end, mate; I think you might be the only vendor who's been here almost since I found the place and still hasn't given me a single reason to question them. For whatever it's worth, your integrity doesn't go unnoticed.
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Hi SpeedHeads, this is a little off-topic but since it could be related, I would like to ask your opinion or if you know similar issue.
Friend of mine seems unable to feel any MDMA effects.
I have a really good brown crystal batch I used already on other occasions, and 90-120mg was more than enough for me and other people to roll properly.
I've tought she never took a good dosage or good stuff, so I took with her 130mg. After 45 minutes, I was already feeling the effects and we took another 50mg since she wasn't feeling anything.
I was on a clearly mdma high with big pupils. She was still completely normal with normal pupils. She took another 100mg, and after 45 minutes another 100mg. Total 380mg in < 3 hours.
Absolutely nothing. And she was able to sleep 2 hours later.
Since she is using a few days during the week (for work purpose) amphetamines or occasionally meth, someone reported this issue could be related to the cross-tolerance (since amph/meth raises mdma tolerance as well), but she is not such a heavy users with high tolerance (and she is also < 60kg!).. But such dosage of 380mg should kick in also in someone with high-tolerance. All other drugs (mushrooms, ghb, ..) are working with normal dosage for her.
Sidenote: she used to take Fluoxetine, and this nullify the mdma effects, but she was not taking it since 30+ days. I've read max 3-5 days without are enough to feel again mdma effect.
What do you think? amphetamines could really raise the tolerance so much of mdma? I don't think it's safe to raise even more the dosage.
dude... I gotta say this although I usually don't come up with responsibility blabbing.
One really shouldn't take 3-4 times a dose that would normally get you fuckin high just because it SEEMS not to have any effects on you! Also Fluoxetine's active metabolite does have a half-life of up to two weeks meaning it accumulates in quite a high amount whilst taking it and definitely isn't gone after a month! You also shouldn't consume any serotonin releasing agents (MDMA, meth, Tramadol...) when under the effect of an SSRI! Serotonin syndrom can cause serious harm! And in this case serious harm includes possible death.
/Dad mode off
However, that's REALLY odd! In fact I think she's an alien. ;)
Seriously:
As she could sleep right after, she obviously didn't have a release of norepinephrine as well so maybe that MDMA didn't even reach her brain... Which wouldn't make sense if it was properly resorbed into her blood. I'm not sure if MDMA is / can be metabolized in your liver but it could be a first-pass effect (some people can show enormous differences in hepatic metabolism due to genetics). So MDMA might be deactivated right away. A different ROA would prevent that. In case she wants to try again I'd give railing it a shot although MDMA is pretty harsh on your nose from what I've heard.
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Does anyone know what happened to loveheart?
They had the best UK speed on here, I got back 40% of what I started with, pure bonedry, odorless amphetamine sulphate from an AB extraction. It was fantastic stuff (for UK). Just like adderall :)
40% is good stuff for UK in my book anyway.
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@kybzmsrf
Thanks "dad", this was a really informative and complete post.
I fully agree with you about the dosage was really high in a short-time, but I was confident enough to attempt this since it wasn't the first time she didn't felt any MDMA effect. Additionally I asked twice if she was not taking Fluoxetine since enough days, 2 weeks was a good margin (and anyway she was taking it very irregularly..that is totally useless as well ;)
last year she told me during a rave party, friends of her was totally high with 1-2 mdma pills and she took 9 (N-I-N-E) without feeling nothing. That was for sure a damn risky thing ;)
Anyway, talking about fluoxetine, it appears still a controversial discussion. On the past years I read about people taking fluoxetine after the MDMA experience or x days before the MDMA experience in attempt to reduce the damage ( http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85569).
Really interesting your idea about hepatic metabolism. Snorting MDMA is not a big issue, I did it a few times but personally you don't get any closer to the effect of other ROA. Also true I never tried more than 100mg snorted, but I'm not sure you can absorb it in the same way. Maybe plugging could be a valid alternative?
And with this, 60 days fluoxetine-free to be sure there isn't any interaction.
Do you think an abnormal natural level of Serotonin could be also considered?
At this point I suppose I can drop the theory of meth/amph that raised excessively the tolerance of mdma.
Thanks for all hints and sorry for the off-topic mdma on amphetamines thread..but hell...best clear mind people are on this thread :D
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@hellwind, I was going to say earlier, "A LITTLE off topic?"
Followed by, "the people on this thread are so cool, they'll probably just answer you anyway".
Then I thought, "Why don't I just shut the fuck up then, and be like them?"
So I did. ;)
>:( Chip >:(
(anger man doesn't go away until I get me some speed!)
I'm gaining a pound a day! :P So far ...10lbs in 10days. - Well I was looking kind of Twiggy there for a while.
Oh man! It has been a brutal break! :'(
Boymaster !! Where art thou?!?!? :o
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@hellwind, I was going to say earlier, "A LITTLE off topic?"
Followed by, "the people on this thread are so cool, they'll probably just answer you anyway".
Then I thought, "Why don't I just shut the fuck up then, and be like them?"
So I did. ;)
>:( Chip >:(
(anger man doesn't go away until I get me some speed!)
I'm gaining a pound a day! :P So far ...10lbs in 10days. - Well I was looking kind of Twiggy there for a while.
Oh man! It has been a brutal break! :'(
Boymaster !! Where art thou?!?!? :o
Edit: Forget what I said. Fuck countries with strict borders. It's a crime for people to NOT be able to enjoy the fine amp being sold on here.
ps. Love the Doom face ;D
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The Germany shipping option is no longer available. Something with borders and unannounced border controls.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused, but safety first.
Our vendor account will also be closed from Saturday August 3th till the 10th of August. Last orders will be send out on Friday evening. If you want some of the product, please order before next Friday (2th of August) evening.
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Has anyone else experienced crazy nightmares or talking/screaming in your sleep a couple of days into amp withdrawal? Not had nightmares myself but the SO complained that the last couple of nights I've been talking and screaming quite loudly in my sleep. I can't remember any of this at all but definitely doesn't feel like I'm getting proper sleep atm anyway as I was still feeling incredibly tired after 13 hours sleep.
The Germany shipping option is no longer available. Something with borders and unannounced border controls.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused, but safety first.
Our vendor account will also be closed from Saturday August 3th till the 10th of August. Last orders will be send out on Friday evening. If you want some of the product, please order before next Friday (2th of August) evening.
Best amp on SR IMHO
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Sup folks, thought to myself it was about time to hop in this nuthouse and say hi.
For those who've been wondering: all is fine, nothing is fucked.
Still speeding da CC way, just hitting the brakes more often and got sucked into playing Rift again (best mmo ever, and free to play since last month, check it out).
I was about to order some CC but then I noticed his listings are down for now. BM is down too, so why not check out iisthisisi's stuff? But not without looking for a little advice, I said to myself, and next thing you know, I'm here again.
Didn't even have to scroll up or browse all the pages I've missed. Thanks for that.
Take care fellas, gonna try and check in more often.
Sham
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Hi SpeedHeads, this is a little off-topic but since it could be related, I would like to ask your opinion or if you know similar issue.
Friend of mine seems unable to feel any MDMA effects.
I have a really good brown crystal batch I used already on other occasions, and 90-120mg was more than enough for me and other people to roll properly.
I've tought she never took a good dosage or good stuff, so I took with her 130mg. After 45 minutes, I was already feeling the effects and we took another 50mg since she wasn't feeling anything.
I was on a clearly mdma high with big pupils. She was still completely normal with normal pupils. She took another 100mg, and after 45 minutes another 100mg. Total 380mg in < 3 hours.
Absolutely nothing. And she was able to sleep 2 hours later.
Since she is using a few days during the week (for work purpose) amphetamines or occasionally meth, someone reported this issue could be related to the cross-tolerance (since amph/meth raises mdma tolerance as well), but she is not such a heavy users with high tolerance (and she is also < 60kg!).. But such dosage of 380mg should kick in also in someone with high-tolerance. All other drugs (mushrooms, ghb, ..) are working with normal dosage for her.
Sidenote: she used to take Fluoxetine, and this nullify the mdma effects, but she was not taking it since 30+ days. I've read max 3-5 days without are enough to feel again mdma effect.
What do you think? amphetamines could really raise the tolerance so much of mdma? I don't think it's safe to raise even more the dosage.
Are they on any anti-depresants? I think t he MAOI type drugs block the effects of MDMA.
Wee they anaxious before taking MDMA? Because often for the first time people don't know what to expect and they spend the whole time worrying and thinking about what is going to happen.
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protip.: never combine with beer, or you will pretty sure fuck your teeth. i only ate max one time per day and always brushed teeth after it. drinking only water(a lot).
fuck your teeth in which way? why should beer make it any worse?
I'm seriously wondering as I used to have the most awesome teeth which seemingly changed recently as I'm afraid I have to see a dentist soon. :-\
im no dentist and not sure, but i have the strong feeling that the problem is caused by the dry mouth. binging amph 24-40h and combining it with 10 beer or so is a nice thing because like with xanax it takes some of the nervous side (and i did it only once!! i could really feel bit sensitive/hurting when brushing theeth after it for a few days in the outer side of the teeth far behind), but i bet it give you caries in absolute no time. i stick to water only when using amph(swallow a vitamin pill and sometimes coffein pill), try to reduce to one meal/day and i brush them some minutes after flushing a lot with water for some minutes and maybe a second time a few hours later(even with just drinking water you get very little, but a noticable "white" layer.
you still have a very dry mouth hours after the last use. i guess it stays around 6-8h(probably badest point is the sleeping after, when you wake up its like a desert. make absolute sure to have no bacterias left before going to bed). so any "sugar/strengh" remaining in the mouth is very bad because you miss the fluid saliva cleaning your mouth.
could be totally wrong, but thats how i feel/think about it. i dont think its some sort of acid saliva but a mouth dry like in a desert giving easy play for carious.
The Germany shipping option is no longer available. Something with borders and unannounced border controls.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused, but safety first.
Our vendor account will also be closed from Saturday August 3th till the 10th of August. Last orders will be send out on Friday evening. If you want some of the product, please order before next Friday (2th of August) evening.
sad to here. hope the normal nl to ger shipping will work like in the past when you return. cant order atm caus of visitors next week, so i guess my break will be a bit longer than planned. have a nice holiday. damn idiotic laws that dont allow you to store big amounts, even if its obvious that you dont resell. with 10gramms amph it counts a serious crime with a minimum 1year(?!).......
10gramm weed for personal use is appointed in this state (some have 6g) and up to 15g can be appointed......(you just lose the driving license)
crazy laws.
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The Germany shipping option is no longer available. Something with borders and unannounced border controls.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused, but safety first.
Our vendor account will also be closed from Saturday August 3th till the 10th of August. Last orders will be send out on Friday evening. If you want some of the product, please order before next Friday (2th of August) evening.
IisthiisI - I guess God just doesn't want me to try your wonderful (so I hear) speed! :'(
Of course Saturday is payday for me. I was going to stock up for August. I'll have to wait patiently for CapeCrusader, hopefully ฿'s price goes up while I'm waiting! :-\
This happened around Memorial Day Weekend too. (End of May). I had money, and the big 3 were all out of stock. Then I tried something new. :-X
Now I finally find my way back home, and Zip, Nada, Zilch!! :( - Don't make me go back to that place!! ;)
What we need now is BOYMASTER !!!!
-Jagfug
(unofficial President of the Boymaster Fan club)
Shamiroqai! Welcome back! Knomo was in here the other day, we got SelfSoverignty here. Man it feels like old times! ;D
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Oh great! The big 3, gone? Oh yeah they'll be back, sure. Only thing is, bitcoins burn a fucking hole in my pocket! :o
What is there a Speed Conference they're all attending??? Oh boy. This is going to be tough. Now's the time for a 4th to throw their hat into the ring. Preferably not shipping from NL.
Thank my lucky stars I live in Methland! Gotta have something to fall back on. But that's another thread.
Hey I'm a boymaster fan! I read through this thread and didn't see anything about when he's coming back. Anyone know?
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Oh great! The big 3, gone? Oh yeah they'll be back, sure. Only thing is, bitcoins burn a fucking hole in my pocket! :o
What is there a Speed Conference they're all attending??? Oh boy. This is going to be tough. Now's the time for a 4th to throw their hat into the ring. Preferably not shipping from NL.
Thank my lucky stars I live in Methland! Gotta have something to fall back on. But that's another thread.
Hey I'm a boymaster fan! I read through this thread and didn't see anything about when he's coming back. Anyone know?
Unfortunately BoyMaster has given us no word on his return which is strange because he usually does..
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asdasd
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I took Wellbutrin years ago, and I only remember that I felt great for 2 weeks. Very motivated. After that I started to feel like a soulless zombie. :o
That was back before it was Extended Release. - The instant release was great, but not for long term use. IMHO.
That's all I remember. ;)
Wait, what? ;D
(sorry)
8) Chip 8)
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Anyone tried stuff from meyer lansky ,looks good ?
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Unfortunately BoyMaster has given us no word on his return which is strange because he usually does..
Hello!
We are coming back in October (maybe sooner) because we are making major changes in the structure.
Regards
Wow, that's a long break mate.
Hope the restructuring goes well and you all stay safe.
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Oh great! The big 3, gone? Oh yeah they'll be back, sure. Only thing is, bitcoins burn a fucking hole in my pocket! :o
What is there a Speed Conference they're all attending??? Oh boy. This is going to be tough. Now's the time for a 4th to throw their hat into the ring. Preferably not shipping from NL.
Thank my lucky stars I live in Methland! Gotta have something to fall back on. But that's another thread.
Hey I'm a boymaster fan! I read through this thread and didn't see anything about when he's coming back. Anyone know?
Unfortunately BoyMaster has given us no word on his return which is strange because he usually does..
i messaged him on SR he said 1 month till he has more
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BM strikes again! Very happy.
With them taking a 1-2 month break, my stash was looking quite small but not anymore!
Thanks once again mate.
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Is anyone here on Bupropion (Zyban, Elontril, Wellbutrin....)? Since I began taking it I don't remember shit when I drink... even if I haven't been that wasted... :o
i dont know this one, but i once took a ssri (antidepressant) called citalopram. i tested it around 3 weeks before i quit because i didnt feel much benefit(it was more like constant lite drugged brain not clear to focus and "sporadic unnatural feeling serotonin showers(?)") but could not enjoy any drinking with it. was so fcking strange.
normally i was used to like one bottle whiskey over a full/long nite or a few beers in the evening, but when on citalopram it was like: maybe drunk half bottle and awake lying on the floor with lights still on, headache and just 3-4h gone. was totally wtf sick shit. i nearly never get to the point where i pass out........on citalopram it was just so freaking i had no pleasure to even drink again because i had total blackouts from minor amounts(i think one time it was only 2 bottle wine and i awaked on the floor with no memory and feeling total shit).
i did also send you a pm related to the other topic. thx
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@Shamiroqai: Welcome back ;) Go for iisthisisi stuff, it's a great batch. the d-amph % is almost the same as BM. I still prefer CC for party usage, I got a stronger rush/Euphoria. But both BM and IIS are amazing for clear mind and very comfortable down.
@Chip Douglas: thanks for your understanding HEART about my offtopic :D
@BM: I wish you good luck with all the changes. Like the others said..stay safe and keep going working in the way you did till now. We will wait for your return with your impressive quality and service.
And about Germany: it seems they are really on HIGH alert.
Not only incoming mail, but also outgoing. In the last month I missed 2 deliveries coming from Germany. I was scared my address was not safe anymore, but BM and CC delivered successfully when I decided to order again (no letters from customs).
What it really surprises me, is about iisthisisi decision to not ship in Germany anymore. His stealth is really solid, more than BM. If they intercepted IIS's letters, it means they are really scanning accurately the mail. I really hope this won't spread to other EU countries as well, but with all the mail flow daily, I think it's fairly impossible to keep such a strict alert and check over a long time. It will be too much expensive ;)
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oh, just for the off-topic glory...I was wondering if Mephedrone could be good as amphetamine alternative? Of course not over a long-time period, I was never a big fan of RC (also didn't find nothing that impressed me..only exception MXE, but nothing good across stimulants)
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oh, just for the off-topic glory...I was wondering if Mephedrone could be good as amphetamine alternative? Of course not over a long-time period, I was never a big fan of RC (also didn't find nothing that impressed me..only exception MXE, but nothing good across stimulants)
it is similar in a way, but not the same. Mephedrone is good for having fun, going out etc.
Amphetamine is good for that, but also for getting things done. I doubt you wil get much done on mephedrone. It gives you eye wiggles like MDMA does and it's hard to concentrate the same way you do with speed.
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Thanks Dingo ;) Well I'll suppose I'll give it a shoot for party related then.
Only things I'm not really convinced is about the fact it's effective quite long. I still have a very bad memory of MDPV comedown, was really horrible (mentally and physically), despite the dosage was not extremely excessive.
Amphetamine is perfect for both party and any other activity, boring or not hehe. I was looking for something to raise euphoria but without excessive mental high (in that case mdma does perfectly the job).
Since a few years (despite I do moderate usage, only during weekends and sometimes a few week/months breaks), I'm not getting a big euphoric rush anymore when I take amphetamines for party purpose. But if party/people/sound is good, all the rest is done by myself to enjoy properly ;)
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And about Germany: it seems they are really on HIGH alert.
i hope its not the case, but we soon have elections(under 80 days). also we have that massive prism/tempora/whateverbullshit and dont tell me our own politicans wouldnt have known......
terrorism is no reason strong enough because ppl here are not the like the usa and we had already gestapo and stasi. and even the highest german court prohibits all that observations? oh oh what now if it would turn out that ms merkel was informed from the bnd that they cooperated to break german law from outside?......that massive silkroad thing and some dead 15year kids ordering heroin from that bad internet would be a perfect card to calm all that critics down till after the election.
but i dont think its the case. they are just to busy to calm that fcking euro/eu-bullshit down till after election. its totally impressive how the most important topic for a voter regarding the next 10 or so years is just totally calmed down from the main politicians and the press/media. i bet 2 weeks after the election there will be a collapsing government inside europe or the need for a new rescue/aid/debtcut etc......
difficult topic and i dont know a good solution, but no discussion at all is the worst ever. i guess we have to unite complete(one government for all, same laws etc) or kill the euro. i would vote for the first, but i guess the majority would vote against. the current status is total idiotic. different minimum wage, different retirement age, different working hour per week, different tax, different..........but same currency.
What it really surprises me, is about iisthisisi decision to not ship in Germany anymore. His stealth is really solid, more than BM. If they intercepted IIS's letters, it means they are really scanning accurately the mail.
i think you got that wrong, or at least i hope it. i think issi still ships to germany, but he sends from nl like in the beginning (when i ordered a month or so ago). i think he just closed the newer service he offered that was sending the letter from inside germany trying to attract german customers. i totally understand that in the current situation its not worth to smuggle over the (of course not existing but still) border what always is a great risk just to minimize the loss of sendings. thats a very high risk and i think especially for our amount it would be idiotic to take it. if you get to big/greedy than you can of course make much money, but that is a risk you should not take if you are intelligent and qualified enough to know the language, the pc skills for silkroad, and in this case the knowledge to produce quality drugs yourself.
if you buy 1kg or 2kg cocaine in nl and bring it to germany there should still be a very noticeable difference in price. im sure you would make 5-10k€ even its already inside eu. but if you get caught your for sure 2 years in jail. maybe even longer and lose the money you maybe already made.
of cours that nothing compared to the price-levels(and of cours risk-levels to get caught) from producer countries in south a, or heroin over turkey, or medicine/chemicals from china.
i personally find it pretty unfair how strong this is legally compared. for me it is just sth different if someone grows his own weed caus he smokes, or makes some amphetamine because he likes it and sells a bit to afford a normal std of life for himself/some co-working friends and enjoys his own products or if ppl just go for big big big money and try to make a million in a year without any passion for the product itself or the harm the unclean products could produce to their customers. its also often a different sort of people. they are all "criminals" but not every criminal is a bad person. thats what i hate most of the "media" reporting. it could really attract bad ppl that wouldnt know of things like that.......would be like the change in the normal internet if you compare discussions 10 years ago with the masses today. was much more friendly, intelligent and easier to find reliable information.
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Thanks for your infos nomnon1,
actually I was wrong, you are right about iisthisisi (i still have to copy and paste this name everytime, it's too damn long, we still don't have an official acronym for him yet?)
he just stopped the shipping FROM Germany, a good security measure indeed.
I just checked CC Vendor page, I laughed at the current items lists:
1 gram pure amphetamine sulphate powder $31,200.00
so that was the discount he was talking about :P
[NOTE for people with few irony - probably he's just out of stock and set this price in the way nobody buy now. As CC told us a few posts a go, he'll be back very soon again with the summer sale]
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Yeah, that's basically to keep his advertisement going, while he restocks. CC's a smart businessman.
IisthisisI - Here's how you remember -> I is this is I, get it? - another clever businessman.
Boymaster :'( What can I say? We're really going to miss you. I can't speak for the rest of us, but I'm a drug addict. I can't think in terms of October! :o
It's August, and I needs me some speed! :P
Well at least I know MaxHavelaar is coming back with some potent shit. It tested at 69%/73% (94% purity). So who knows? -Maybe he'll be the #1 seller on here for August!
With the top 3 all on sabbatical, holiday, vacation, or whatever you want to call it. It's a sellers dream come true! - Come on all you Speed Vendors!
:) \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\******************** LET THE GAMES BEGIN ! ! ! ************************//////////////////// :)
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Time to put up or shut up !! Let's go! Vendors please let us know about you. Please let us know where you ship from and to.
8) Chip 8)
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Well at least I know MaxHavelaar is coming back with some potent shit. It tested at 69%/73% (94% purity). So who knows? -Maybe he'll be the #1 seller on here for August!
If I were you, I wouldn't.
See how in his feedback people don't talk about his stealth/shipping but only his product/price ratio?
Look for yourself. That's a big red flag right there. Ask me, but on SR one of the FIRST things a buyer should check are a vendor's stealth, not his prices!
You cannot put your freedom at another person's hands with no reassurance. Especially when it comes to mailing drugs!
And let me reassure you, order from Maxhavelaar and your letter can very probably arrived to your front door, only it will be escorted by customs.
If you're lucky (big if), you're going to receive nothing from this vendor. But that will still give you the right to be ignored and turned down for a refund, because his "profit margin" is too small to accept such a thing.
People! Just, DON'T!
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Anyone have knowledge of when CC and BM will have batches up again?
Me and my mates didn't get to buy yet, and they both ship from very acceptable countries.
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you might wanna put a little effort in at least reading the last 3 pages....
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..fair call.
Forgive me and my laziness!
Take care, be safe.
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you might wanna put a little effort in at least reading the last 3 pages....
Fuck dude, like 3 posts up and i got enough info for now.. bugger me... fail! :-X
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But once again and I will not get tiered to state this. Beware of getting stuck in amphetamines ... they become evil and WILL "beat you in your ass" , stay healthy and do not overdo them.
wise words, my friend! always plan some long enough breaks, or the high won't be enjoyable anyway. once you start hallucinating you should force yourself to stop. don't get caught in the upper - downer - upper - ... cycle.
Hey fellas, whats crackin? :D
Been so busy lately.. no time for SR or drugs really.. But next week my vacation will start and I will properly enjoy it 8)
Me neither, people are moving on I guess. Sometimes it feels like a highschool reunion on here, with us being the oldtimers. Looks like the state of the speed-union is exactly like last year. Anyone remember when July and August were extremely dry? with no amph at all. Then: BM 3rd batch. Haha, fun times.
I'm still lol-ing at reviews "complaining" about the pure amph that is just fine white powder with no speed-smell to it. ;D never gets old.
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Yeah infinite thanks to the few vendors that are providing pure amp.
Never want to smell paste again..
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Yeah infinite thanks to the few vendors that are providing pure amp.
Never want to smell paste again..
And the only one providing it are the producers ;)
I can understand all the mainstream cocaine cutting business, also because can't be produced everywhere and the price is so high (and I still ask myself WHY somebody would prefer to spend 200$ for 1g of pure uncut cocaine for a single night high other than 7-8g of amph..leasting just a little longer :P), but why, why cutting amphetamine so much? *grins*
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Thanks Dingo ;) Well I'll suppose I'll give it a shoot for party related then.
Only things I'm not really convinced is about the fact it's effective quite long. I still have a very bad memory of MDPV comedown, was really horrible (mentally and physically), despite the dosage was not extremely excessive.
Amphetamine is perfect for both party and any other activity, boring or not hehe. I was looking for something to raise euphoria but without excessive mental high (in that case mdma does perfectly the job).
Since a few years (despite I do moderate usage, only during weekends and sometimes a few week/months breaks), I'm not getting a big euphoric rush anymore when I take amphetamines for party purpose. But if party/people/sound is good, all the rest is done by myself to enjoy properly ;)
mephedrone has more euphoria to it as well though. Kind of like cocaine when you first snort it.
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Hey fellas, whats crackin? :D
Been so busy lately.. no time for SR or drugs really.. But next week my vacation will start and I will properly enjoy it 8)
Me neither, people are moving on I guess. Sometimes it feels like a highschool reunion on here, with us being the oldtimers. Looks like the state of the speed-union is exactly like last year. Anyone remember when July and August were extremely dry? with no amph at all. Then: BM 3rd batch. Haha, fun times.
I'm still lol-ing at reviews "complaining" about the pure amph that is just fine white powder with no speed-smell to it. ;D never gets old.
I'm lucky that I didn't really use all that much from my stock so there's plenty left to make it through the next months 8)
And about the pure amp yeah that was pretty funny, same when you share some of it with people.. They don't believe it's that high quality, until it's 6am in the morning and they are still wide awake :D
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Hey fellas, whats crackin? :D
Been so busy lately.. no time for SR or drugs really.. But next week my vacation will start and I will properly enjoy it 8)
Me neither, people are moving on I guess. Sometimes it feels like a highschool reunion on here, with us being the oldtimers. Looks like the state of the speed-union is exactly like last year. Anyone remember when July and August were extremely dry? with no amph at all. Then: BM 3rd batch. Haha, fun times.
I'm still lol-ing at reviews "complaining" about the pure amph that is just fine white powder with no speed-smell to it. ;D never gets old.
And about the pure amp yeah that was pretty funny, same when you share some of it with people.. They don't believe it's that high quality, until it's 6am in the morning and they are still wide awake :D
Agreed, that's always hilarious when you warn people about a batch being very potent, yet they always seem to know better... ...and come back begging for benzos the next morning! I can see why people are more inclined towards disbelief though, people always say 'their shit is the best'.
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I finally did a wash on exactly 350mg of HO´s Pep and the outcome was 298mg. So i would say good Pep...
:))
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did you just washed with Acetone or also boiled in alchool?
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Anhydrous Acetone to be exactly. I did it myself. and no, no alcohol. What does it to the washed speed?
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asd
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2nd order from xxl junkie ,product as says and pro vendor ,EXCELLENT .
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an off-topic question for the native speakers: In which way is "security" distinct from "safety"? Can't quite wrap my head around it.
I have a feeling that a person cannot be secure but only safe.
Assuming I flee into an armored cabin in case of the zombocalypse ;D : Does the locking mechanism of the cabin being secure make myself safe? Is the cabin itself safe despite being exposed to the zombies? At the same time would you consider the cabin itself secure when it's been locked properly? Is security a measure to provide safety? Does your safety imply security of your surroundings? Too many questions. Confused :/
Idk but where can I order some of what you're on tonight?
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@Acen@kybzmsrf: thanks for the Info. I used to do the ethanol step with some (bad) speed paste. But you certainly got a point - if it's sulphate the risk of loosing stuff is certainly not worth. Even with a proper thermometer it could be a matter of seconds to loose the timing ;)
@SoAlone - LOL ;)
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an off-topic question for the native speakers: In which way is "security" distinct from "safety"? Can't quite wrap my head around it.
I have a feeling that a person cannot be secure but only safe.
Assuming I flee into an armored cabin in case of the zombocalypse ;D : Does the locking mechanism of the cabin being secure make myself safe? Is the cabin itself safe despite being exposed to the zombies? At the same time would you consider the cabin itself secure when it's been locked properly? Is security a measure to provide safety? Does your safety imply security of your surroundings? Too many questions. Confused :/
Idk but where can I order some of what you're on tonight?
For a fact I was quite ummm.. sped up :D offline source though, sorry mate ;)
Also I've already been enlightened about security and safety via PM (thanks! :)), so everyone who's totally eager to get further into it: don't ;D
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I don't usually ask many questions on here, but...
What is the difference between speed and speed pep?
I've seen speed pep written a few times and am curious as to how it is different to normal speed (amphetamine)
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hey Dingo :D I think name used are not really "universal" and they are subject to changes from country to country.
This is my point of view:
speed is NOT amphetamine. Amphetamine is when you manage to have sulphate with high purity, like CC, BM or IS.
speed here is commonly used to express this white-oh-it's-smelling-so-strong powder OR paste form, therefore amphetamine around 30-40% mostly cutted with coffeine and other stuff.
Pep is just another synonym used in other countries.
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OMFG. How did all my stuff go by so quickly. This will be an interesting next few weeks of w/d. Anyone suggest something comparable to my insane tolerance/preference for CC/BM/ISIS?
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OMFG. How did all my stuff go by so quickly. This will be an interesting next few weeks of w/d. Anyone suggest something comparable to my insane tolerance/preference for CC/BM/ISIS?
Meth, unless it's out of the question for you. I was waiting 2 weeks to get paid and put in my order with one of the big three. I tend to switch between substances, just to fool my receptors. - I'll even have cola once in a while, and H just the way one might have wine once a month.
I'm fooling myself at least! :o
Other than that, I did read Max Havelaar (spelling?) was set to come back soon. I know there's one person here that's had a issue there, but I'd still take a chance on a G or two, just to see how it measures up. Other than that, it's the dog days of August on the Speed Parkway exit off the Silk Road!
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hey Dingo :D I think name used are not really "universal" and they are subject to changes from country to country.
This is my point of view:
speed is NOT amphetamine. Amphetamine is when you manage to have sulphate with high purity, like CC, BM or IS.
speed here is commonly used to express this white-oh-it's-smelling-so-strong powder OR paste form, therefore amphetamine around 30-40% mostly cutted with coffeine and other stuff.
Pep is just another synonym used in other countries.
+1
Thanks for that
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OMFG. How did all my stuff go by so quickly. This will be an interesting next few weeks of w/d. Anyone suggest something comparable to my insane tolerance/preference for CC/BM/ISIS?
it's ridiculous isn't it? my last order, 2gs from boymaster was gone in 8 days. This is the first proper break ive had in 6 months and tbh I feel ok. I little tired throughout the day, difficult to wake up in the morning, feeling a little extra hungry during the day but no depression or anything like that. i do think working out since i stopped has helped my mindset but my stamina levels are really low compared to 6 months back so something im going to work on before taking another 6 month binge
but ffs i need some high grade speed asap1! :-X
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it's ridiculous isn't it? my last order, 2gs from boymaster was gone in 8 days. This is the first proper break ive had in 6 months and tbh I feel ok. I little tired throughout the day, difficult to wake up in the morning, feeling a little extra hungry during the day but no depression or anything like that. i do think working out since i stopped has helped my mindset but my stamina levels are really low compared to 6 months back so something im going to work on before taking another 6 month binge
but ffs i need some high grade speed asap1! :-X
6 Months...my God......that's a long time.
I did 3 days in a row albeit very small amounts (with Ambien to assist sleep) and at the end of it I was set emotionally adrift. Floating in an unstable sea of self doubt, being rocked by the waves of negativity and sorrow.
Whether it was because of the addition of Ambien, I've no idea....but the head-space I occupied for the two days after the weekends frivolities certainly has made me approach Amphetamine Sulphate with great respect.
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it's ridiculous isn't it? my last order, 2gs from boymaster was gone in 8 days. This is the first proper break ive had in 6 months and tbh I feel ok. I little tired throughout the day, difficult to wake up in the morning, feeling a little extra hungry during the day but no depression or anything like that. i do think working out since i stopped has helped my mindset but my stamina levels are really low compared to 6 months back so something im going to work on before taking another 6 month binge
but ffs i need some high grade speed asap1! :-X
6 Months...my God......that's a long time.
I did 3 days in a row albeit very small amounts (with Ambien to assist sleep) and at the end of it I was set emotionally adrift. Floating in an unstable sea of self doubt, being rocked by the waves of negativity and sorrow.
Whether it was because of the addition of Ambien, I've no idea....but the head-space I occupied for the two days after the weekends frivolities certainly has made me approach Amphetamine Sulphate with great respect.
I'm in the same boat. I can't do multi-day binges. 2 days is my limit. Otherwise I just feel guilty about it and don't enjoy it and also the effects of the amphetamine get weaker.
I'd rather do it every now and then.
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My maximum has been three weeks doing one day per week of actually not taking speed and eating/resting properly. At the end I was pretty fucked over, two days, and I was pretty well again.
Since then I'm trying to don't take speed again, and OK for now. Anyway, I love it. Is just that I want to have my mind in shape, so I'm staying with modafinilo for now. When CC/BM/etc speed come again maybe I commit some self indulgence in some parties in September. Now, sober of everything.
PD: The speed FASTWAYS sells.. How many grs does It lose drying ? I mean, how many powder are you left if you have 110 grs of paste ?
Thanks.
PD2: God, We humans deserve some fucking drug that doesn't fuck us over internally. The person who gets that.. well, love. ;D
PD3: For the tolerance chelated magnesium goes OK.
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OMFG. How did all my stuff go by so quickly. This will be an interesting next few weeks of w/d. Anyone suggest something comparable to my insane tolerance/preference for CC/BM/ISIS?
Modafinil (Provigil) and Armodafinil (Nuvigil) will ease the pain by A LOT. I know insane tolerance levels ;) so you may need quite a bit. Armodafinil is basically the Dextro-Version of Modafinil (same properties as for DextroAmph). take a look at meds4bitcoin, sells on here with great prices and great brands.
edit: it works somehow on the D2-Receptors as well, but isn't like speed, but much calmer. Takes a bit to get used too. If you stay on modafinil during your break, Dopamine will not fully recover. You basically withdraw from amph to modafinil levels and from there back to ground.
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OMFG. How did all my stuff go by so quickly. This will be an interesting next few weeks of w/d. Anyone suggest something comparable to my insane tolerance/preference for CC/BM/ISIS?
it's ridiculous isn't it? my last order, 2gs from boymaster was gone in 8 days. This is the first proper break ive had in 6 months and tbh I feel ok. I little tired throughout the day, difficult to wake up in the morning, feeling a little extra hungry during the day but no depression or anything like that. i do think working out since i stopped has helped my mindset but my stamina levels are really low compared to 6 months back so something im going to work on before taking another 6 month binge
but ffs i need some high grade speed asap1! :-X
oh I know that feel bros!! I would have needed 5gs at least, during my hardcore times. even small breaks will help not only to cut down on tolerance but make the amph more enjoyable again.
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OMFG. How did all my stuff go by so quickly. This will be an interesting next few weeks of w/d. Anyone suggest something comparable to my insane tolerance/preference for CC/BM/ISIS?
Modafinil (Provigil) and Armodafinil (Nuvigil) will ease the pain by A LOT. I know insane tolerance levels ;) so you may need quite a bit. Armodafinil is basically the Dextro-Version of Modafinil (same properties as for DextroAmph). take a look at meds4bitcoin, sells on here with great prices and great brands.
edit: it works somehow on the D2-Receptors as well, but isn't like speed, but much calmer. Takes a bit to get used too. If you stay on modafinil during your break, Dopamine will not fully recover. You basically withdraw from amph to modafinil levels and from there back to ground.
Even if the best way to reduce tolerance and give a breath of relief to your body and brain is a good break, I just wanted to share my experience with the usage of the CDP Choline Integrator. Somebody suggested me on this thread to give a try, I took 250mg Daily for 2 weeks. There are not really evidences CDP Choline is really effective raising dopamine , but there are many research that support this theory
( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8709678 ), at least on rats it works eheh.
I'm not an hardcore user, I take amphetamines only on weekend and rarely during the week. Despite could be just a placebo effect, I have the impression CDP Choline is working with lowering tolerance. You may give it a try, it's a cheap integrator anyway.
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Some1 recommend some good vendor who sells really nice amphetamine (ships to EU)?
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Some1 recommend some good vendor who sells really nice amphetamine (ships to EU)?
★ CapeCrusader
★ BoyMaster
★ Ithisisi (...I think this is the correct spelling)
These are the best suppliers of quality Amphetamine sulphate on the Road.
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Agree with Serious Mum list (as probably everyone else on this thread eheh).
CC will be back really soon with shipping (less than one week?)
BM closed till October
iisthisisi avilable after 10th august, currently in holiday. very happy with his batch as well.
a few post a go a wise guy told me how to remember that easily --> I IS THIS IS I
*grins*
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CC will be back really soon with shipping (less than one week?)
BM closed till October
iisthisisi avilable after 10th august, currently in holiday. very happy with his batch as well.
This is exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks!
The only thing I worry about is that CC originally said Aug 1. Where did you hear he would be gone another week?
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4 pages a go, lazy cat ^^
"I am forced to postpone putting up my listings by only a few days. It will go up early next week at the lower prices promised. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
Best Regards
CC"
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Yes i initially did say it would be postponed for only a few days but then we experienced this whole tor/freedom hosting scandal. I've taken this past week to replace my computer system and upgrade my security. If any of you have my tormail address saved or plan on using it please refrain from doing so. I have removed it from my vendor page and do not plan on using it ever again. Also i'd like to let all of you know that i have never made backups of sensitive information or anything. You're in perfectly safe hands with me. I also was not vulnerable to the last attack on tor as i always keep my software up to date. The listings will definitely be up in this coming week.
Best regards
CC
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Thanks CC, you are a truly professional, both with producing and keeping things safe! Keep going on this road.. ;)
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I also was not vulnerable to the last attack on tor as i always keep my software up to date.
this question is not directed to cc, just to anyone who has time/pleasure to give me a quick answer.
uhm...i red about that tormail(i made a address 8(?) month ago but never used it caus i didnt need)/tor-freedom-hosting(whatever that is/was?) bust. i didnt use any of it.
i normally use only sr and this forum on my tor-browser.
but now im unsure if the normal tor was attacked/insecure/compromised(?).
i use the tor-browser-bundle(lazy me the version is a little bit outdated....caus it sucks to always redo all important additional steps to make it script/java etc save(of course java etc is deactivated). also you can never be sure if a newer version is compromised by intend.
i would have liked to just add a image i know that explains what you have to change all to make it really save. its outdated, but i always used it. its called tor_guide.jpg and from 4chan or so(dunno...at least there is a animu-girl on the right bottom...maybe konata(?)). i just checked the hidden-wiki to find a source to just upload the fcking picture. non worked (non loaded)....i guess i tried 5-6 different links 10 times again. so nevertheless, the picture is not needed anyway and i guess many would know or could google it in clearnet).
so was the normal tor/this also attacked/compromised??? if yes i would be thankful for a quick link/direction where to read about it.
of course i use full-harddrive-encpytion on all systems (truecrypt...but haha as we know not save caus they could just use a backdoor in ms-windows. so im no supercriminal/terrorist and they wont do, thats also a different story) and im only a consumer, but i would of course have to change all my passwords/get new accounts. thats nothing you want to do just4fun.
thx
ps: better have to change my pw on the forum here now, caus could have been the same i used on that tormail account. my sr account has a different one.
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Good to see none of the vendors and buyers are compromised (yet) by the bust of FH. Imagine the world of shit we would be in if the top vendors are busted and/or SR would suffer the same fate as the sites hosted on FH :/
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I also was not vulnerable to the last attack on tor as i always keep my software up to date.
this question is not directed to cc, just to anyone who has time/pleasure to give me a quick answer.
uhm...i red about that tormail(i made a address 8(?) month ago but never used it caus i didnt need)/tor-freedom-hosting(whatever that is/was?) bust. i didnt use any of it.
i normally use only sr and this forum on my tor-browser.
but now im unsure if the normal tor was attacked/insecure/compromised(?).
i use the tor-browser-bundle(lazy me the version is a little bit outdated....caus it sucks to always redo all important additional steps to make it script/java etc save(of course java etc is deactivated). also you can never be sure if a newer version is compromised by intend.
i would have liked to just add a image i know that explains what you have to change all to make it really save. its outdated, but i always used it. its called tor_guide.jpg and from 4chan or so(dunno...at least there is a animu-girl on the right bottom...maybe konata(?)). i just checked the hidden-wiki to find a source to just upload the fcking picture. non worked (non loaded)....i guess i tried 5-6 different links 10 times again. so nevertheless, the picture is not needed anyway and i guess many would know or could google it in clearnet).
so was the normal tor/this also attacked/compromised??? if yes i would be thankful for a quick link/direction where to read about it.
of course i use full-harddrive-encpytion on all systems (truecrypt...but haha as we know not save caus they could just use a backdoor in ms-windows. so im no supercriminal/terrorist and they wont do, thats also a different story) and im only a consumer, but i would of course have to change all my passwords/get new accounts. thats nothing you want to do just4fun.
thx
ps: better have to change my pw on the forum here now, caus could have been the same i used on that tormail account. my sr account has a different one.
You may be comprised. You would need to be running both Windows and have Javascript enabled. If you had both of those factors, it's a good chance you got hit.
Here is more information, and best of luck.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=195878.0
Regards,
Vanquish
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I'm so bummed out that the big 3 have been out since the beginning of the month! - This is what happened the first week of June, and I ended up getting hooked on Meth!
I only can get Btc at the start of the month, being on a pension and all (SUCKS) - I even asked Iisthisisi if he'd hold a few G's a week before the 3rd, and he said no worries, he'll be sure that I'll be able to get a chance to finally try his wares.
Then this happens;
Our vendor account will also be closed from Saturday August 3th till the 10th of August. Last orders will be send out on Friday evening. If you want some of the product, please order before next Friday (2th of August) evening.
Friday night (Aug 2nd) I get home and see that, and flipped my lid. Trashed my room like 'Pink' (the character) in The Wall movie.
Just had to vent that, sorry guys. :P Ended up getting Meth. At least I found a good vendor for that. I just really wanted to stop doing Meth, and get back to good old amphetamine.
Oh well! Money is gone now!
Hopefully I wont have to wait till September to get some good Amphetamine.
Catch you all some other time.
Peace
jagfug
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Damn come back soon CC, running very low on ur stuff. Stocked up around 15 grams a few months back and now that pile is looking pretty slim. With BM and CC out of the game not to many other choices here in the US ???
Any new guys that might have some decent stuff for the US? I see budworx is popular now for speed, I thought a few of you got some pretty bad shit from him if I recall. Urgh hate to pull the trigger if CC was for sure coming back soon.
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Keep an eye on MaxHavelaar. He had listings up for a day or two, but like many others, had to re-tool some things do to with the ever increasing police state. He should be up any day now. I know that's where I'm going. This batch has been confirmed at very high purity.
Sit tight! Maxi always came through for me. The fact that he took down his new listings, show's a responsible vendor.
I"ll be keeping tabs on him to make sure he's on the up..
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Anyone tried Budworx new batch? The description sounds enticing.
It could be an option while the big guns are reloading..
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Hey fellas,
Before his vacation, I was able to dip my nose in 5 grams of Iisthisisi's speed.
Fast processing and shipping. Only took 3 days to my mailbox. Very decent, quality packaging, weight was pretty much spot on.
The quality of the product is outstanding, you guys were right, as usual. No crazy amounts are needed to get a clean focused high and I didn't experience any annoying/noticeable side effects.
I have one or two remarks though, or rather questions.
Why is all the speed so "fluffy" lately? Or is this how it should be?
I remember my favorite CC batch from jan/feb this year being dry and powdery but grainy thus very easy to snort. The following batch didn't have this grainy texture but more "baby-powderish". This does not change the quality but it does change the snort-ability in a way it becomes almost unsnortable and flies straight to my throat. Sometimes I just wanna snort my drugs you know. I like the ritual, it's badass and druggy.
Now on to Iisthisisi's speed. This is beyond fluffyness and I remember Jagfug used the term "cottonish texture" for this kind of speed. Good luck snorting this lol.
If you ever ordered MaxHavelaars 31% pure speed, this is exactly the texture (and odor) I'm talking about.
Anyway, they probably do it to spare our noses, so thanks for taking care of us, cooks and sellers :-).
Sham,
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Does Iisthisisi ship to the US? I noticed his listings only say EU union now.
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asdasd
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Also i'd like to let all of you know that i have never made backups of sensitive information or anything. You're in perfectly safe hands with me. I also was not vulnerable to the last attack on tor as i always keep my software up to date. The listings will definitely be up in this coming week.
Best regards
CC
That's very charming, thank you for this reassurance.
Good to see none of the vendors and buyers are compromised (yet) by the bust of FH. Imagine the world of shit we would be in if the top vendors are busted and/or SR would suffer the same fate as the sites hosted on FH :/
Soon you will see for which people those FEMA camps have been build many years ago.
I hope they serve us at least one hamburger with freedom fries per month. How's the bill of fare for inmates in Guantanamo looks like?
The ultimate victory over thought thugs and evil doer's is near! Finally we will get enough manpower to conquer the universe!
But back to our little amphetamine world...
Do you also get a little biting in your nose from iisthisisi's stuff?
Maybe it's because i did a pause for about 1-2 months and my mucosa is back in action afterwards, but i can't remember to got those sharp feelings (no big pain or blood) with products from other vendors. brb, filling gelatin caps again.
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So after sleeping a near 30 hours straight (benzo-influenced a bit) and realizing that coffee does absolutely nothing to help, I'm wondering if I should ever get on a regular schedule with this stuff ever again! I guess it is good that all listings i see are paste - paste everywhere on the road! Speaking of texture....
I have one or two remarks though, or rather questions.
Why is all the speed so "fluffy" lately? Or is this how it should be?
I remember my favorite CC batch from jan/feb this year being dry and powdery but grainy thus very easy to snort. The following batch didn't have this grainy texture but more "baby-powderish". This does not change the quality but it does change the snort-ability in a way it becomes almost unsnortable and flies straight to my throat. Sometimes I just wanna snort my drugs you know. I like the ritual, it's badass and druggy.
I mentioned this earlier. Isthisisi's speed has the exact texture FireUK's did (for those of you who remember), it had almost a cornmeal smell to it as well as the fluffiness -- making me resort to only eating it. Not to say it was bad (FUK's wasn't either) but there is a certain adulterant you are referring to. CC's last batch, for example, was the definition, IMO, of the finest stuff you can find -- rock solid, dry, one texture, and crushable to the finest powder -- perfect for any sort of roa.
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I've completed order with tonicwater 2x Dutch Speed DRY 70 % - 10 Grams - NO LOSS
It seems to be a lack of good speed where BM and CC are not selling these days. so I'm taking a risk ordering from tonic water. but I hope it will be worth it.
I will make a review when the speed is here.
we need more good speed vendors, the top three do not have anything in stock.
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what are experiences with drying out? what is expected that 1g of speed paste should dry out to? how long do you let it dry before you snort?
i am curious, i have a good batch (labtest 69%/73%) , but it dries out to 40-45% of paste weight, slightly better as my superwet batch from before.
anybody want to share experience with drying out paste that is available on SR, or what they are expecting?
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what are experiences with drying out? what is expected that 1g of speed paste should dry out to? how long do you let it dry before you snort?
i am curious, i have a good batch (labtest 69%/73%) , but it dries out to 40-45% of paste weight, slightly better as my superwet batch from before.
anybody want to share experience with drying out paste that is available on SR, or what they are expecting?
THe most I have lost was around 40% from drying, the vendor did throw in about 2 extra grams to compensate for the lose. 12.2 grams was down to about 8.0, I ordered 10. I think alot of us have been spoiled with BM/CC, many have a hard time trusting paste since they sell dry and very clean speed. I am willing to try some new shit though, no clue when CC is coming back and BM is gone for a while.
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Finally got my hands on some of iisthisisi's speed..
It's definitely got a light and fluffy texture that I don't usually associate with speed. It was a mission scraping it all off the inside of the MBB. Although it tasted quite strong I can't really give it a fair review right now due to high tolerance from BM.
Ill give it a proper review after a break of a week or so..
Iisthisisi's packaging was great btw. Thanks mate!
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Hey guys
Just a quick update. Listings will be up on friday at around 8pm Western European time.
Regards
CC
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Hey guys
Just a quick update. Listings will be up on friday at around 8pm Western European time.
Regards
CC
Excellent.
Thanks for the heads up!
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Seems like only 2 people have tried Bungee54's speed. It is a shame, despite his top notch rep for pure cocaine.
It seems to be in the cheap end. He told me he left it to dried out, so you should be getting MUCH more for the money than Fastways if you assume it is as dry as it gets.
Only downside is he requires FE for most upper end quantities.
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Good to know, CC!
Now i'll spare my bottle caps for friday, instead of spending them for unknown paste.
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Fuck yeah CC, I am so happy I held out ordering.
Anybody recall CC pricing, I know he said he might lower the price but a baseline would be awsome? I would like to get my coins in order before the listings go up tomorrow.
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Greetings
I will be putting up the full listings again on the 1st of August. I am going to be releasing this batch at special low prices to encourage people who are afraid to order to get an order in so that they can see just how quick and painless it can be :)
Prices will be as follows:
1g- $24
2g- $44
5g- $99
10g- $170
The above prices already include the SR commission so it is a very very good deal for this kind of quality.
Best regards
CC
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It's about time
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Thanks Mango, I looked but clearly I fail.
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Hi all. I have a few questions before I try speed for the first time/place my first order.
What is a safe/low dose to try for the first time? I am not looking to get crazy, just a little more energetic!
At what time could I take it and still get to sleep by ~3 AM?
Will I sleep? lol
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Hi k4rtz
I'd say 30/50mg. max out of a good product, and no later than 21/22 pm.
If you go back and read a page or two on this thread you'll find valuable info on the matter from experienced users.
By the way: CC speed listings are UP!
Waiting for some already.
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Hi all. I have a few questions before I try speed for the first time/place my first order.
What is a safe/low dose to try for the first time? I am not looking to get crazy, just a little more energetic!
At what time could I take it and still get to sleep by ~3 AM?
Will I sleep? lol
I would start with like 25-45mg assuming you are using CC/BM stuff.
I wouldn't take any past 3-4 pm and a few hours if you want to get a decent nights sleep. Drink tons of water. Take 500-1000 mg of Vitamin C like 2 hours before you want to sleep and take melatonin like an hour before you want to sleep. I also highly suggest Chelated Magnesium 400mg with the melatonin. I could do a whole write up on all the vitamins I take. I have done a decent amount of research on speed harm reduction and tolerance reduction.
Try to get a decent PH balance in your digestive track as well. Meaning stay away from thing like soda/shit foods etc... And Vit C will reduce the effects of speed so avoid foods high in Vit C while on speed. Remember with all drugs you control it, not it control you. Take plenty of breaks from speed you don't want to get caught in a situation where you are chasing the high. Sleep/eating healthy and excise a vital to an optimum operating system :) Anyways start with low doses and stay low, taking it orally will last the longest. Good luck have fun and be safe.
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Thanks for the fast reponses! 1 more question I forgot to ask..
I've never snorted anything and don't plan to. Could I put this in a capsule and have it produce the same effects? Will the effects be less than if I snorted it?
Sorry for the newb questions. I've searched the web AND this thread(well, the last 10-15 pages or so) and couldn't find the answers I was looking for.
Just trying to keep myself safe 8)
Oh and yes I will be ordering from CC once the funds make it to my account(any minute!)
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You can put it in a capsule as well, yes.
Effects will be the same, just with a slightly slower onset.
For the first time, I'd go with 20mg only, you never know!
I personally don't even plan on sleeping within 9-12 hours after and even then it won't be a deep sleep.
I'm on Zyban though, which fucks up your sleep anyway, so it might not take as long for you.
When I go out at night and take amph, I usually don't sleep until the evening after.
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You can parachute it if you don't have pills. You basically take 1 square piece of toilet paper and put the powder in it fold it up and swallow it. You can also order empty caps online, get size 4 caps, they are small and will be ideal for smaller amounts of speed. Snorting kicks in faster obviously but it really fucks up your nose pretty good.
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Thanks for the fast reponses! 1 more question I forgot to ask..
I've never snorted anything and don't plan to. Could I put this in a capsule and have it produce the same effects? Will the effects be less than if I snorted it?
Oh and yes I will be ordering from CC once the funds make it to my account(any minute!)
Snorting is overrated IMO, I find that AMP is better swallowed because to me, its just as effective and lasts longer, comes on smoother and leaves easier. Its also just safer, no nose burn, sniffles, damaging nasal passages etc... If you dont have a capsule just dissolve it in warm water, than add some more water and drink. Give at LEAST an hour to feel effects before doing any more, if you jump the gun and take too much as a noob its NOT fun. Remember less is more with AMP :)
Do yourself a favor and get a good .001 (that's a 1 mg scale) can get buy with like a $25 digital that are pretty accurate measuring. When taking stuff almost pharm grade pure like CC, BM you want to measure correctly. Honestly, Ive been using amp daily for few months and of CC's I don't need anymore than 12mg in about 4 hour period. Start low 10mg or less, wait an hour, and can always take another 10mg if desired effect didn't come on...
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Sorry to get off topic for a minute guys but who better to ask about sleeping pills than a bunch of Amp Heads like us huh? ;)
Just wanted to ask who knows a good vendor for cheap sleeping pills ie Ambien, lunesta... better yet anyone selling a powder or liquid? Just need something to help me sleep that isnt as dependance causing as the damn xanex...
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Melatonin and weed helps me sleep when i am on uppers, and a few shots of vodka
ordered some of those ICE speed pills but, i had them before and they were ok and after seeing posts about CC i should have waited . but now i just wanna use speed to go on a diet, these days i get so bored at home there's nothing to do but eat lol and i am getting a little more plump. I mean food is awesome but i feel like if i keep up my ways i might get fat and this is one of the few fun ways to slow down on my eating habits. Anyone here have any losing weight stories using amps? good/bad
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i just wanna use speed to go on a diet
careful, it might go further than you want it to!
since i started doing speed like a year ago I went from BMI ~21.5 to ~18.5 without even noticing and although I don't look unhealthy, people notice. This would be an awesome starting point for working out regularly though.
@Hamburgler: Ambien and Lunesta are hardly better than benzos dependency-wise! I don't think there's any effective sleep-aid that doesn't come with dependency risk. Just don't overdo it! (Sounds so easy... :S)
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Melatonin and weed helps me sleep when i am on uppers, and a few shots of vodka
ordered some of those ICE speed pills but, i had them before and they were ok and after seeing posts about CC i should have waited . but now i just wanna use speed to go on a diet, these days i get so bored at home there's nothing to do but eat lol and i am getting a little more plump. I mean food is awesome but i feel like if i keep up my ways i might get fat and this is one of the few fun ways to slow down on my eating habits. Anyone here have any losing weight stories using amps? good/bad
While never specifically using speed for weight loss, I have been on extended binges where I've eaten the normal 3 meals a day and dropped weight daily.
As soon as the binge ended and the crash started my metabolism returned to normal and whatever weight that was lost returned plus some extra..
I can only see it being good for dieting if you were constantly re-dosing every couple of days. The negative health effects you would experience would far outweigh any positives.
If you're bored at home maybe start a fitness program where whenever you feel like eating something you instead go for a run or just do something active. The hardest thing about starting to get fit is staring all together. Once you start and begin to see and feel the health benefits you never want to stop.
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i like to bike and skateboard so maybe i can do more of that since its still summer kinda and its physical. i have a pretty good sense of self control so i probably won't binge hard. I could go to the gym but i am against paying for things i can do outside for free. STREET STRETCH!!
and i actually like speed, i used to be able to get dexedrine but not anymore so now i have to go for the stuff here on sr which isn't too bad either
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Why is all the speed so "fluffy" lately? Or is this how it should be?
Amphetamine sulfate is crushed to a fine powder quite easily when pure enough. You can't say it should be like that, because it obviously depends on how fine it's been ground / chopped. What you can do is throw it in a little acetone or cold isopropanol put it in a coffee filter and firmly press it into a large chunk. After drying you can crush it the way you like it best ;) You'll end up with some powder again though.
I recall reading somewhere that you get fluffier pastier amphetamine if its amphetamine hydrochloride... but i might be mistaken.
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First review in:
I received the stuff in a reasonable time and well packed.In my opinion it was too wet and I sent him a mail about this. He agreed and give me a refund of 30%. In my eyes was this reasonable.
The stuff what was left was white and I guess just as strong as from CC or BM.
So I can give him a 5 out 5.
Good stuff after drying good communication and reliable.
I've adjusted the price, gave previous two customers a refund and now a special sale 2 grams of paste (around 0.8-1 gram of dry near pure amphetamine) for 16.85USD
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9d1e7b50d5
Happy days are here again ;)
yours,
MH
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i have a pretty good sense of self control
Then why do you need speed to eat less? ;) That's kinda contradictory!
Serious question, sometimes you just don't see certain things.
I recall reading somewhere that you get fluffier pastier amphetamine if its amphetamine hydrochloride... but i might be mistaken.
Amph*HCl is very hygroscopic and thus impossible to dry in a humid environment. People won't be thrilled to get paste that can't be dried. In fact it would even seem to melt because it dissolves in the water it attracts from the air.
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What I was trying to say is any weight lost through using speed is quickly re-gained once you stop using.
The only way to keep the weight off is by living a very active lifestyle.
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I've properly tried iisthisisi's batch and I love it! Great speed, very potent but without any jitters or sweatiness. Highly recommended from me!
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i have a pretty good sense of self control
Then why do you need speed to eat less? ;) That's kinda contradictory!
Serious question, sometimes you just don't see certain things.
haha yeah i guess it's a contradiction but ultimately in the end, i just wanna get high and enjoy myself
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I know many vendors sell it and some people like it and all...
Is it simply a non dried out Amp sulphate like CC's or BM's? (assuming its very high quality wise) Or is it a different chemical makeup from a dry sulphate like CC? If its the first than why don't they simply dry their gear, why leave it as a paste? besides heavier water weight...
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I know many vendors sell it and some people like it and all...
Is it simply a non dried out Amp sulphate like CC's or BM's? (assuming its very high quality wise) Or is it a different chemical makeup from a dry sulphate like CC? If its the first than why don't they simply dry their gear, why leave it as a paste? besides heavier water weight...
Assuming you mean paste:
Best-case scenario is that it's just the sulphate with left-over solvent. Usually acetone or isopropanol.
Isn't acetone used for cleaning speed up, i.e. in acetone many impurities dissolve and the acetone with amphetamine is then drained through a coffee filter to leave near pure amphetamine. the isopropanol (isopropyl alcohol) can be used for the second purification stage, only the amphetamine dissolves in it, let the liquid evaporate on a plate in a fridge and you should have gotten rid of the remaining impurities. How can the paste consist of a liquid that reacts with amphetamine, or am I way off here?
As with all drugs it could be almost anything else in there.
I don't have an answer to your second question. I've stated this a couple pages ago: The sole reason to sell paste is rip-off! There is absolutely no reason. Dry sulphate is easier to store, easier to handle, doesn't reek of solvent and can actually be weighed accurately.
From my perspective and from what I've heard and reasoned with dealers, users large and small, the logic behind paste is this - everyone wants to pay no more than a fixed amount for a gram of speed (its like that with prostitutes in Amsterdam as well (the 50 guilders for service became 50 euros) though the crisis has lowered the prices there, but thats for another forum)) now if you reason that people want to pay 10 euros per gram, you can calculate back through the chain to production, and there is the catch. The precursors have been illegalized and the prices have gone up tremendously! It now is more profitable to cook BMK (Benzyl Methyle Ketone or Phenylacetone), the main speed precursor) than speed, as a liter typically goes for €700-€1200 and produces about a kilo of speed (but probably less). BMK is worth about $25 per liter FOB in China and probably less...
Basically paste is not that much of a rip-off as simple market dynamics, besides if its not ridiculously wet (slushpuppy speed), it dries out to 40-50%, so you can calculate dryness. I give that guarantee in my listings.
I sell paste because its easier to process in my case.
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How is a liquid easier to process(i assume your paste would almost be liquid if you lose 60-70% on drying)?
Please offer insight into this.
Also, tell me more about the dutch prosties.. haha :P
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Just when I finally order from iisthisisi my "studying aid" he has not been seen for 3 days. :(
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I've lowered my prices a bit more towards CC and BM to $12.51 for 2 grams of paste, approx. 1 g of dry.
cannot tell you why i process paste as i do - i think you know why...
haven't seen a prostitute in years, but have to say the window ones are more like you're seeing a doctor in the clinical sense than a yakuzi with champagne and coke...
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I've lowered my prices a bit more towards CC and BM to $12.51 for 2 grams of paste, approx. 1 g of dry.
cannot tell you why i process paste as i do - i think you know why...
haven't seen a prostitute in years, but have to say the window ones are more like you're seeing a doctor in the clinical sense than a yakuzi with champagne and coke...
Fucking MAX! You rock! LoL!
Great to have one of the late great vendors on here tonight!
I'm psyched! - Don't get into them mental circle-jerk with the chem nerds, just keep producing that fluffy white phet I know and love!
Laytah!
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Now on to Iisthisisi's speed. This is beyond fluffyness and I remember Jagfug used the term "cottonish texture" for this kind of speed. Good luck snorting this lol.
If you ever ordered MaxHavelaars 31% pure speed, this is exactly the texture (and odor) I'm talking about.
Anyway, they probably do it to spare our noses, so thanks for taking care of us, cooks and sellers :-).
Sham,
Well, SHIT! I'm in good company when the likes of Sham comes out of the woodwork and quotes me! ;) How ya doin old pal!
I'd give my left nut to have some of that 'cottonish texture' in front of my big Infidel shnozola right now~! ;D
Shit! Max is here, I saw Knomo a few pages back (how that guy saves his stock I'll never understand), I swear he's got a 'speed cellar'! :o
Now SelfSovereignty a few others, a huge bon fire, some kegs of beer, live rock n roll, and plenty of cotton candy, and I'd say we have ourselves an "End of Summer" party! Whatdya say guys? - I'll give you directions. - Just meet me at the old Utopia Theater in Bearsville, NY. - No one should stand out. That whole town is on drugs.....LoL! ** August 31st !!** -
Wouldn't it be nice? - One can dream 8)
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Tried some of Neal Patrick Harris' domestic US speed.
Pay attention to this: he explicitly states that it's 50/50 dextroamphetamine and levoamphetamine.
This combination is what's found in adderall, but in a different ratio.
This will tend to make you have more of the negative side effects: jitters, stomach ache, nervousness, anxiety.
We tried it this weekend - 10mg + 10mg bump. Good slight onrush while showering, did 2nd 10mg.
We both agreed about an hour and a half in, we felt distinctly up. Well, in that low dose speed sort of way: alert, but not like you're "on something."
As a bit more time passed, things seemed a little more tense.
Eventually we were at cruising altitude, but with slight stomachaches that twisted up our throats a little, and if you've had panic attacks before, it's that sort of tightness
in your chest that makes you think "OMG HEART PAIN!" when it's really just your stupid stomach...but can't get the thought out of your mind.
So it ended up being a boring/annoying evening, but we should have guessed.
So...lower doses, probably oral, and for focusing on work, not gettin' high for us.
NPH was straight shooter as a vendor, super delivery speed, good packaging/stealth and customer service.
Just know what you're buying, because it's pretty much from what we could tell what he said he was selling.
More studying, less dancing/sexing, but to each thing its purpose, blah blah :)
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Due to a rapidly dwindling supply of CC and before his new batch. I ordered from iisthisisi..Last had some Dex from him a while ag . A Lovely high but a complete shit of a 2 day comedown..
Arrived quickly with excellent stealth. Expecting a snappy bag, nearly lost it in the carpet due to my enthusiastic opening of mail.....open carefully!
Surprised to find a Pure white, very fluffy powder, tasting reassuringly bad..
Wary after being caught out the first time i tried CC. I thought my scales were lying and had to check the weight twice as it looked loads. With a reasonably high tolerance and very tidy home!! I weighed out .200 breakfast bomb for me and .100 for Mrs H
Came on after 30-40mins with a lovely euphoric rush and extremely horny (if distracting) tweak.
Up all day and most of the night with a .100 bump about 5hrs later) A smooth very physical high, no unpleasant body load or comedown, and a complete loss of morals from Mrs H.
Liked it so much had to order more. 8)
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Hellhazz - haz the best reviews on this thread. You have a way with words my friend.
For someone with a low post count, you really make the 'posts count'!
Bravo Sir!
If they give out awards, like Emmy's for 'Best Speed Review' etc, I'm nominating you.
Regards to Mrs H.! You guys sound like a happy couple. (this week anyway! ;) )
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Does someone here tried maxhavelaar's speed (94% purity) ? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9d1e7b50d5
Is it really pure when dried?
Thanks
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Just wondering if there's any interest for amphetamine phosphate?
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Just wondering if there's any interest for amphetamine phosphate?
Good question.
Can you, or other experienced users, or those more informed, explain the recreational differences between the Sulphate and Phosphate salt versions of Amphetamine?
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An important advantage of my new salt [amphetamine dihydrogenphosphate] lies in its ready solubility in water. It is about six times as soluble as either the dibasic phosphate or the dibasic sulfate [that's what we call "the sulfate"]. Thus a quicker and more intense therapeutic action is assured. The action is also less persistent from the standpoint of cumulation that may result in a "hang-over" feeling.
Based upon extensive experience in human therapy, I have determined that the monobasic amphetamine phosphate is more effective, dose for dose, than is the dibasic amphetamine sulfate, which is the best known of the amphetamine salts. This is indeed surprising, because my new salt contains less of the amphetamine base than does an equal quantity of the dibasic sulfate. It follows that the amphetamine is far more potent in the form of the monobasic phosphate, than in the form of the salt most widely used today.
While my salt is more. effective, dose for dose, than the dibasic sulfate, insofar as the desired stimulation of the central nervous system is concerned, it produces less undesirable side-effects attributable to stimulation of the sympathetic nervous system. This may be due to the fact that it contains less of the amphetamine base. However, that does not explain why the desired therapeutic effects are not similarly diminished, but rather substantially enhanced. It appears that the undesirable side-effects are distinct from the desired effects of these salts, insofar as dosage is concerned, and it is probable that the desired effects are favorably influenced by the presence of phosphoric acid. It is well known that phosphates in general are metabolized more readily than are the sulfates which are foreign to the physiologic processes of the body. Regardless of what may be the true explanation, the, fact remains that the desired effects can be produced with my new salt, while greatly diminishing or completely eliminating the undesired effects that were heretofore considered inevitable in the therapeutic use of amphetamine salts.
Of course that's from a patent, so what that guy claims doesn't necessarily have to be as great as he says.
The higher solubility would most likely make absorption faster, so you might get a stronger rush. I don't really see why the ratio of effects and side-effects should change just because the cation changed.
Also one should note that while amphetamine sulfate contains ~73% amphetamine, the described amphetamine dihydrogenphosphate contains only ~58% amphetamine.
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Wonderful find....thank you.
Indeed I'd like to extend a look into the phosphate version. Do you (Iisthisi) have the ability to be able to supply it and, also, to countries outside the EU?
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You're welcome!
If you're interested you can make phosphate from sulfate relatively easily with little loss. Make sure to use food-grade phosphoric acid though.
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I have the ability to supply it and shipping to the states will also be an option again.
I'll try it myself as well, and will make some other salts too, like amph ascorbate. Just to find out if there are any differences.
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Greetings
The last batch certainly sold much faster than expected. Not to worry. I will have more by the end of next week. Because i am receiving such great support i will maintain these low prices. By October/November i will also have 25g and 50g listings at the following prices:
25g- $350
50g- $550
Best Regards
CC
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Greetings
The last batch certainly sold much faster than expected. Not to worry. I will have more by the end of next week. Because i am receiving such great support i will maintain these low prices. By October/November i will also have 25g and 50g listings at the following prices:
25g- $350
50g- $550
Best Regards
CC
For the quality of product and service those are damn gooooood prices.
Just in time for the silly season too ;)
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Greetings
The last batch certainly sold much faster than expected. Not to worry. I will have more by the end of next week. Because i am receiving such great support i will maintain these low prices. By October/November i will also have 25g and 50g listings at the following prices:
25g- $350
50g- $550
Best Regards
CC
I concur with Mango!
Please advise when/if you consider shipping to Australia.
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Greetings
The last batch certainly sold much faster than expected. Not to worry. I will have more by the end of next week. Because i am receiving such great support i will maintain these low prices. By October/November i will also have 25g and 50g listings at the following prices:
25g- $350
50g- $550
Best Regards
CC
Will you be shipping to Aus this batch? :)
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you can tell, I got my bc on friday and it was sold out on monday...
next times the bc will be ready
8)
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Hello, been on hiatus from the thread because frankly, amphetamine was simply not working even iisii. I took 100mg, and I knew I needed more extended abstinence. So I shelved it. Now I went a bit crazy and ordered from some random new vendors.. such as virmo... who literally didn't ship or was unaware that I had ordered and seems to put up erratic listings. so I cancelled after 7 days of non ship. I advise probably not to order from there.
Missed CC by a day I suppose. I have ordered from MaxH, Amsterdrugs (who was kind enough to offer a bit extra of this unusually coloured paste), xterdam which are unmentioned and I'll write up. EVeryone knows about BM CC ISI so I'll see what the, allbeit pastey stuff is capable of
Besides caslava who is now offering 50x 1.25mg xanax blotters or the 100mg powder, there's a cheap 20mg phenazepam which is a well, benzo to treat with caution but
if you're low on btc you can get yourself 10-20 comedown remedies for less than <$7 incl shipping or so.
Other than that SR remains pharmaceutical / benzo/z-drug ripoff world. ( I mention this of course since using amphetamine's or any stim for that matter without a counter is just a torture).
Oh and I did find $7 ghb vials listed. half one of those should be good for stomping a comedown alternating from hitting your GABA-A and causing dependency there which is not a pleasant WD as we know.
Also, I should point out that http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/89550535b5 TheDaggaCouple is selling the cheapest nice hybrid weed from SA that I have seen on SR. I mean $36 for 5g for a northern light hybrid... I ordered there myself.
This I mention too because... the one trick to not USING amphetamine every day is to have a nice ganja to smoke and stave off the urges. and this is good deal a long with caslava 's reasonable xanax prices.
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Finished a batch tri-basichosphate salt of amph today. This means there are three molecules of amph bound to one phosphate.
Tried some myself and was kinda overwhelmed :P A quick calculation shows that the amount of amph is around 81% compared to the salt.
Snow white and virtually without smell.
I'm looking for 2 EU based testers, just to exclude the prejudged me.
You will receive 500 mg as a tester and are asked to write a review in this thread.
So the testers should at least have a couple of posts in this thread.
If you're interested, reply or send me a pm.
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Finished a batch tri-basichosphate salt of amph today. This means there are three molecules of amph bound to one phosphate.
Tried some myself and was kinda overwhelmed :P A quick calculation shows that the amount of amph is around 81% compared to the salt.
Wow that sounds like some strong stuff especially since its coming from the man who cooked it.
A couple of lucky EU people get to try this stuff fresh off the cook...
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Finished a batch tri-basichosphate salt of amph today. This means there are three molecules of amph bound to one phosphate.
Tried some myself and was kinda overwhelmed :P A quick calculation shows that the amount of amph is around 81% compared to the salt.
Snow white and virtually without smell.
I'm looking for 2 EU based testers, just to exclude the prejudged me.
You will receive 500 mg as a tester and are asked to write a review in this thread.
So the testers should at least have a couple of posts in this thread.
If you're interested, reply or send me a pm.
Hello,
I live in western europe and I am very experimented with amphetamine.
I am interested in trying your tri-basichosphate salt of amph as a tester.
I will let a big detailed review in this thread.
Please let me know if you are interested
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Finished a batch tri-basichosphate salt of amph today. This means there are three molecules of amph bound to one phosphate.
Tried some myself and was kinda overwhelmed :P
(nonsense removed)
edit: Thinking about it again, I'm pretty sure that a tribasic amphetamine phosphate cannot exist! H3PO4 is unable to protonate more than 2 amphetamine molecules because HPO3[2-] is a weaker acid than protonated amphetamine (amphetammonium? Oo) is. What you get when putting 3 parts amphetamine and 1 part phosphoric acid together should be 2 parts diamphetaminehydrogenphosphate and 1 part left-over amphetamine base.
Don't wanna nitpick here. I'm a scientist, please bare with me ;)
Overwhelmed in which way? :D
I think I'll give this a shot too... Don't have food-grade phosphoric acid available right now though... And I'm most definitely not going to do this with technical grade...
edit:
I am interested in trying your tri-basichosphate salt of amph as a tester.
Copy/paste vultures are circling :D
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Finished a batch tri-basichosphate salt of amph today. This means there are three molecules of amph bound to one phosphate.
Tried some myself and was kinda overwhelmed :P A quick calculation shows that the amount of amph is around 81% compared to the salt.
Snow white and virtually without smell.
I'm looking for 2 EU based testers, just to exclude the prejudged me.
You will receive 500 mg as a tester and are asked to write a review in this thread.
So the testers should at least have a couple of posts in this thread.
If you're interested, reply or send me a pm.
Let me be your human guinea piggie!!!!
Lemme quickly cheat a bit lol: Ik ben je buur maar eet liever friet.
Amphetamines for free and writing about it, sounds like chillness in my book.
EDIT: yea, yea, I know, that Sham dude only comes out the woodwork when there is free stuff to win lmao.
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Finished a batch tri-basichosphate salt of amph today. This means there are three molecules of amph bound to one phosphate.
Tried some myself and was kinda overwhelmed :P
(nonsense removed)
edit: Thinking about it again, I'm pretty sure that a tribasic amphetamine phosphate cannot exist! H3PO4 is unable to protonate more than 2 amphetamine molecules because HPO3[2-] is a weaker acid than protonated amphetamine (amphetammonium? Oo) is. What you get when putting 3 parts amphetamine and 1 part phosphoric acid together should be 2 parts diamphetaminehydrogenphosphate and 1 part left-over amphetamine base.
Don't wanna nitpick here. I'm a scientist, please bare with me ;)
Overwhelmed in which way? :D
I think I'll give this a shot too... Don't have food-grade phosphoric acid available right now though... And I'm most definitely not going to do this with technical grade...
edit:
I am interested in trying your tri-basichosphate salt of amph as a tester.
Copy/paste vultures are circling :D
wat?!
Damn nice hand, sir. =)
..though I can not follow XD
take care
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Finished a batch tri-basichosphate salt of amph today. This means there are three molecules of amph bound to one phosphate.
Tried some myself and was kinda overwhelmed :P
(nonsense removed)
edit: Thinking about it again, I'm pretty sure that a tribasic amphetamine phosphate cannot exist! H3PO4 is unable to protonate more than 2 amphetamine molecules because HPO3[2-] is a weaker acid than protonated amphetamine (amphetammonium? Oo) is. What you get when putting 3 parts amphetamine and 1 part phosphoric acid together should be 2 parts diamphetaminehydrogenphosphate and 1 part left-over amphetamine base.
Don't wanna nitpick here. I'm a scientist, please bare with me ;)
Overwhelmed in which way? :D
I think I'll give this a shot too... Don't have food-grade phosphoric acid available right now though... And I'm most definitely not going to do this with technical grade...
edit:
I am interested in trying your tri-basichosphate salt of amph as a tester.
Copy/paste vultures are circling :D
Thank you for the clarification. I guess I was just overexcited when I wrote this :P
You are right, it's the dibasic salt. Just did my calculations again and I required 2 moles amph in comparison to H3PO4.
I took about 1 mg orally and it was most definitely noticeable. People actually told me my pupils where slightly diluted and I also felt some stimulation. This was gone within the hour though.
Will give it a better try this weekend.
There are a lot of tiny crystals that shine brightly under a bulb.
Let me be your human guinea piggie!!!!
Lemme quickly cheat a bit lol: Ik ben je buur maar eet liever friet.
Amphetamines for free and writing about it, sounds like chillness in my book.
EDIT: yea, yea, I know, that Sham dude only comes out the woodwork when there is free stuff to win lmao.
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Alright friet-eter, I'll send you a tester. You may send me a pm with the details.
The two testers have been selected and I'm curious about their results.
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Ik ben je buur maar eet liever friet.
Haaawww, you guys sound so incredibly adorable to my german ears :D
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Finished a batch tri-basichosphate salt of amph today. This means there are three molecules of amph bound to one phosphate.
Tried some myself and was kinda overwhelmed :P A quick calculation shows that the amount of amph is around 81% compared to the salt.
Snow white and virtually without smell.
I'm looking for 2 EU based testers, just to exclude the prejudged me.
You will receive 500 mg as a tester and are asked to write a review in this thread.
So the testers should at least have a couple of posts in this thread.
If you're interested, reply or send me a pm.
can you tell me how it differs in effects from your other stuff?
My dopamine must've been so blown out I simply had to quit. endwise 100mg doses (240mg in less than 2 hours) did nothing much for me :/ went through 2g. but I pin this down to extreme tolerance.. natural I suppose. I most likely have ADHD. although I had only been clean for 7-8 days (was using 2g of CC before that which was working decently of course at higher doses than regular folk).. I think My binge cycle use really burns me out. might have to do with the mild benzo addiction (but we're talking a mildish benzo wd which allowed me at least fractured sleep and was over in 3-4 days)
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Finished a batch tri-basichosphate salt of amph today. This means there are three molecules of amph bound to one phosphate.
Tried some myself and was kinda overwhelmed :P A quick calculation shows that the amount of amph is around 81% compared to the salt.
Snow white and virtually without smell.
I'm looking for 2 EU based testers, just to exclude the prejudged me.
You will receive 500 mg as a tester and are asked to write a review in this thread.
So the testers should at least have a couple of posts in this thread.
If you're interested, reply or send me a pm.
can you tell me how it differs in effects from your other stuff?
My dopamine must've been so blown out I simply had to quit. endwise 100mg doses (240mg in less than 2 hours) did nothing much for me :/ went through 2g. but I pin this down to extreme tolerance.. natural I suppose. I most likely have ADHD. although I had only been clean for 7-8 days (was using 2g of CC before that which was working decently of course at higher doses than regular folk).. I think My binge cycle use really burns me out. might have to do with the mild benzo addiction (but we're talking a mildish benzo wd which allowed me at least fractured sleep and was over in 3-4 days)
I can't give a real comparison yet as I've only tried 1 mg at most.
Will update when tested more properly.
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The 1mg part confuses me. Normal sulphate maxes at about 78%, right? Your stuff's been show to be pretty much pure, so the improvement, while commendable, only gives about a 3% jump.
You noticed that much of a difference in 1mg?
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Just a heads up if you're a bit......... lacking in patience like I am when it comes to waiting around for stuff.
I've lowered my prices a bit more towards CC and BM to $12.51 for 2 grams of paste, approx. 1 g of dry.
cannot tell you why i process paste as i do - i think you know why...
You should probably point out in the first line of your description that you don't ship for 5 days....
this is the second one of my amp orders that is delaying like hell. So frustratng. I've ordered from 4 diff vendors (last weeekend) to make sure I had some for this weekend. (Shipping takes 2-3 business days from NL&DE to where I am)
altho maxh I didn't expect to receive sometime like tuesday-wednesday since I ordered late last wednesday night.
Upon enquiry I received the explanation:
Description page (not first line) of product says:
""...Currently NO DAILY shipping due to setting up new infrastructure."
shipment thus defaults to standard SR procedure, 5 days of processing time from the time of ordering.
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I don't know anything about vending or vendor accouts but if you have product what is this 5 days of processing time?
Frustrating. I'm sitting here with a multitude of downers and not a single upper lol. megafacepalmarinos.
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The sulphate contains ~73% amphetamine, the salt iisthisisi made contains ~68%, the 81% were calculated based on the assumption it was tribasic. Sorry, I feel like I'm sounding like a smart-ass here :(.
So the difference in effects cannot be because of that. That the phosphates are (or seem) stronger might be the case because phosphate is an important part of our bodies chemistry while sulfate-ions afaik only appear as "metabolic waste" and are something our bodies want to get rid off. So maybe the body says "hey phosphate, we're having a party, come on over! Bring a +1!" That +1 happens to be amphetamine. At the same time nobody likes sulfates! They're not invited, they're bounced at the door and have to sneak in some other way... Obviously when you're invited you can get high a lot quicker :D
The snippet from the patent I posted aa couple pages ago says that the phosphate also causes less side-effects so maybe phosphate is more welcome in places we also want amphetamine to be than where we want amph it not to be.
Man sometimes I really feel like becoming a teacher so I can make up stupid similes all day :D
Hello
Yeah, phosphate is very nice in all pharmacological aspects the only problem it has is a pH of 4.6 in water solution versus 6 of the sulfate. This means that phosphate is a pain for the nose (orally it's very good). I think that it's not suitable for our purposes. I have tried it a couple of times and it didn't go well.
Cheers
Sounds like music to my ears then.
I rarely snort my speed anymore.
Must definitely give it a try,althou my supply is still alive and kicking:).
Finished a batch tri-basichosphate salt of amph today. This means there are three molecules of amph bound to one phosphate.
Tried some myself and was kinda overwhelmed :P A quick calculation shows that the amount of amph is around 81% compared to the salt.
Snow white and virtually without smell.
I'm looking for 2 EU based testers, just to exclude the prejudged me.
You will receive 500 mg as a tester and are asked to write a review in this thread.
So the testers should at least have a couple of posts in this thread.
If you're interested, reply or send me a pm.
Let me be your human guinea piggie!!!!
Lemme quickly cheat a bit lol: Ik ben je buur maar eet liever friet.
Amphetamines for free and writing about it, sounds like chillness in my book.
EDIT: yea, yea, I know, that Sham dude only comes out the woodwork when there is free stuff to win lmao.
HAH frieteter,sounds like music to my ears;).
Mayo niet vergeten eh.
Let us know what's what,looking forward to this batch thanks TEACHER kybzmsrf ;D.
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Frustrating. I'm sitting here with a multitude of downers and not a single upper lol. megafacepalmarinos.
Same boat. TTons of downers. Even Donnatal Cocktails.
Hoping a friend is coming through with some Meth tomw. Def next day.
It seems whenever I want to order amph, all the good ones are out.
I hope you guys have some amphetamine around Sept 3rd. That's my "shopping day"
;P)
~Chip~
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The 1mg part confuses me. Normal sulphate maxes at about 78%, right? Your stuff's been show to be pretty much pure, so the improvement, while commendable, only gives about a 3% jump.
You noticed that much of a difference in 1mg?
The sulphate contains ~73% amphetamine, the salt iisthisisi made contains ~68%, the 81% were calculated based on the assumption it was tribasic. Sorry, I feel like I'm sounding like a smart-ass here :(.
So the difference in effects cannot be because of that. That the phosphates are (or seem) stronger might be the case because phosphate is an important part of our bodies chemistry while sulfate-ions afaik only appear as "metabolic waste" and are something our bodies want to get rid off. So maybe the body says "hey phosphate, we're having a party, come on over! Bring a +1!" That +1 happens to be amphetamine. At the same time nobody likes sulfates! They're not invited, they're bounced at the door and have to sneak in some other way... Obviously when you're invited you can get high a lot quicker :D
The snippet from the patent I posted aa couple pages ago says that the phosphate also causes less side-effects so maybe phosphate is more welcome in places we also want amphetamine to be than where we want amph it not to be.
Man sometimes I really feel like becoming a teacher so I can make up stupid similes all day :D
Neat. Thanks for the info.
So then, I wonder if IIS will start an advertising campaign: "Our healthiest amphetamine yet!"...
He's currently got it listed, if anyone's curious.
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Finished a batch tri-basichosphate salt of amph today. This means there are three molecules of amph bound to one phosphate.
Tried some myself and was kinda overwhelmed :P A quick calculation shows that the amount of amph is around 81% compared to the salt.
Snow white and virtually without smell.
I'm looking for 2 EU based testers, just to exclude the prejudged me.
You will receive 500 mg as a tester and are asked to write a review in this thread.
So the testers should at least have a couple of posts in this thread.
If you're interested, reply or send me a pm.
can you tell me how it differs in effects from your other stuff?
My dopamine must've been so blown out I simply had to quit. endwise 100mg doses (240mg in less than 2 hours) did nothing much for me :/ went through 2g. but I pin this down to extreme tolerance.. natural I suppose. I most likely have ADHD. although I had only been clean for 7-8 days (was using 2g of CC before that which was working decently of course at higher doses than regular folk).. I think My binge cycle use really burns me out. might have to do with the mild benzo addiction (but we're talking a mildish benzo wd which allowed me at least fractured sleep and was over in 3-4 days)
I can't give a real comparison yet as I've only tried 1 mg at most.
Will update when tested more properly.
Well, I would paid for 0.5g but gambling on 1g when the regular stuff doesn't work so well for me doesn't seem smart move for me :( Although I have been clean for 17 days now I think and no benzo addiction.. but still. It's like with BM.. his old stuff before he changed it from the yellowey (that stuff just gave me bodyload and no good effect) to the white which gave me more similar effect to CC. I have a strange subjective reaction to all amps.. maybe this... amphetamine whatever it's called is one. if u put a custom 0.5g listing I'll buy some (and testout for someone who has ADHD with the ADD subtype classification)
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Hurray, there is a good chance my order from CC will arrive today. Can't wait!
Really need to sleep, but don't want to miss the mail man.
No way I'm dipping back into my stash, think I'm pushing 40+ hours awake.
In fact, I don't even know how long I've been awake.
Guess it really doesn't matter till I start seeing the Shadow People.
Vanquish
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I've had two sessions with iisthisisi's speed now, and I'm very impressed! Definitely the purest I've had and the come down is very clean. No nastiness, unless you've had a bit too much. Unfortunately I'm not used to dosing friends without amphetamine experience, so a few of them ended up sleepless with paranoia / mild panic attacks. I did all the usual safety talks before hand, yet... You all know the drill, no one can be told. They just hit it too hard and expected the amphetamine to wear off whenever they were finished partying. We all know that's not how it works!
Anyway, I highly recommend iisthisisi's product! Looking forward to reviews on his new tri-basichosphate... Might be a nice change.
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I've had two sessions with iisthisisi's speed now, and I'm very impressed! Definitely the purest I've had and the come down is very clean. No nastiness, unless you've had a bit too much. Unfortunately I'm not used to dosing friends without amphetamine experience, so a few of them ended up sleepless with paranoia / mild panic attacks. I did all the usual safety talks before hand, yet... You all know the drill, no one can be told. They just hit it too hard and expected the amphetamine to wear off whenever they were finished partying. We all know that's not how it works!
Anyway, I highly recommend iisthisisi's product! Looking forward to reviews on his new tri-basichosphate... Might be a nice change.
Yep. Been there. I told my friends that just because they can have 1 gram of weed in a day does not mean they can take 1 gram MDMA in day.
They didn't listen and ended up having panic attacks because they munched through 1.2gm of MDMA each. Then it was all my fault for selling it to them...
Well... If people just fucking listened they wouldn't get themselves in these states.
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Hurray, there is a good chance my order from CC will arrive today. Can't wait!
Really need to sleep, but don't want to miss the mail man.
No way I'm dipping back into my stash, think I'm pushing 40+ hours awake.
In fact, I don't even know how long I've been awake.
Guess it really doesn't matter till I start seeing the Shadow People.
Vanquish
Don't worry, shadow people don't appear until 72 hours ish for me and I got used to them. I just wae and say hello when some hobbit pops up from behind the sofa (i have a large sitting room I can view from kitchen). then I start laughing when it keeps popping up and down again. I dno, thing is with the clean speed you're usually too mentally sharp to be psyched out by visual distortions up until 4-5 days ( i never pushed past 4 days anyhow because that's usuall when I get so sleepy it feeels like such a high to just crash into bed and fall asleep, this is not meth).. but if I saw shadow people just 2-3 hours into some psychedelics or some shit then I would piss my pants, laugh hysterically, have a panic attack and run for benzos... on amph it's just "oh it's about time that fucking thing showed up... guess it's near sleeping time now)
On another note, virmo removed his weird ass listings (like 3-4 different ones for 1g of "amphtamines.. with random "dexedrine" added) after I gave out on him uh.
also stay away from interways.. that shit is like 34% amph, 27% caffeine and the rest is 4-fa/fma toxic shite.
xterdam stuff hasn't arrived. it should've if he shipped it the day he marked it..
remoulade... for your safety talk do you not mention to one main important damn thing for amphetamine... DO NOT USE THIS SHIT WITHOUT BENZOS.. you can get fkn 100mg phenazepam for 11 bucks from enjoy, or 100mg 24 caslava... shit. 1mg of either will remove any sleeplessness or paranoia. if ur gonna have "safety talks" then why omit the one golden rule of using uppers..... you gotta have downers. and the silver rule is to not get addicted to the downers but.. that takes some doing I mean , 7-14 days will cause mildish wd.
apropro the phenazepam though, that is one to be careful as fuck with if u dont know what ur doing with benzos. I can eat as many roofies as I want and not get amnesia.. phenazepam is the only stuff that'll hit me with amnesia.
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remoulade... for your safety talk do you not mention to one main important damn thing for amphetamine... DO NOT USE THIS SHIT WITHOUT BENZOS.. you can get fkn 100mg phenazepam for 11 bucks from enjoy, or 100mg 24 caslava... shit. 1mg of either will remove any sleeplessness or paranoia. if ur gonna have "safety talks" then why omit the one golden rule of using uppers..... you gotta have downers. and the silver rule is to not get addicted to the downers but.. that takes some doing I mean , 7-14 days will cause mildish wd.
apropro the phenazepam though, that is one to be careful as fuck with if u dont know what ur doing with benzos. I can eat as many roofies as I want and not get amnesia.. phenazepam is the only stuff that'll hit me with amnesia.
My safety talk is well researched and informed, so I definitely include the bit about taking downers if you're looking for the big red STOP button. However, on this occasion my friends didn't inform me of their mental / physical wellbeing so I was unable to offer any help in the form of diazepam. At one point my friend was having a panic attack in front of me, laid down with his eyes closed, without indicating he needed some consolation/help! All he needed to do was concentrate on breathing deeply, not short and sharp, and he would have been fine... Indeed, quite a few people just 'went to bed' but were in fact lying wide awake and feeling horrible, whilst I was outside with two friends enjoying the morning sun, feeling great! I think a big part of it was that most of them would easily have been able to 'keep up' 1 or 2 years ago, but don't have the stamina any longer, so they overdid it. Some people take it as a measure of ball size how much they can fit up their nose before shit hits the fan, when in fact it's simply a question of set, setting and the individual's biology.
@Dingo Ate My Drugs; None of my friends blamed me as such, but I did make sure to apologise to them all once I had found out how many people had had such a hard time towards the end of the night. They know I have a lot of experience with these things, so I think they just shut off their brains and rely on me to keep tabs on how much they've had, ask them if they're alright and if they want some more - they put their safety in my hands rather than thinking for themselves. I'm going to have to reevaluate... As you say, if only people listened in the first place!
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Review on vendor AmsterdamDrugs “60% amphetamine sulfate paste”.
+ General amphetamine rant and. May contain a lot of unnecessary comments and language because I’m an unnecessary person.
Vendor link:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/21195d2658
TL;DR/cliffnotes for those who do not like to scroll:
Quality (with subjectivity): Best paste for me so far on SR at incredible price. Useful addition or alternative to collection even if you’re sitting on CC/BM/ISI stuff – low on BTC / Three kings of Speed are out of stock.. etc.
I am so far convinced that the stated lab test of 60-63% with no other substances (detectable, such as caffeine and toxic RC's) is accurate.
Shipping: 2-3 Business days inter-europe.
Shipped on same day. Vendor went out to ship my order despite already having done the daily shipping. Double vacuum sealed & inconspicuous.
Article sized assorted irrelevant information and relevant to product for TL;DO READ
Additional information that I did not intend to type but I am already placebo speeding as I’ve now not used for 18 days and am terribly excited to be able to do stuff I’ve been putting off such as.. Vacuuming and colour co-ordinating clothes. Oh and making a bunch of money working hard, and going on a date with supreme confidence (while coming across as a gentleman who does not bang on the first date… but really, I just don’t want to reveal speed dick. Second date no need for speed as you’ve already made your supreme first impression)
No caffeine cut (at least by vendor) claimed and… the most peculiar colour of paste I have seen. It is bloody orange. I don’t mean blood orange (the fruit) as in red but it’s fucking orangey. Perhaps it has been cut with regular Orange Juice, like Jesse Pinkman cut his meth with Chilli Powder. Granted Speed King CapeCrusader has and 2-3rd runner up BoyMaster have produced yellowy stuff before… but I’m shutting up about this now as I’ve no idea what constitutes the colour of drugs or why my penis is tan and the rest of my body is not. I don’t know anything about scientolochemicalology or stuff but I am still an expert in the field of ingesting fucking speed from many vendors here and having naturally high tolerance- without being an actual junkie addict. Oh and suffering of mild ADHD (add defunct subtype, or maybe not as I’m hyper and not even on speed as I type all of this).
I am usually against using pastes but find some to be acceptable as long as absent of being cut with other inferior pointless / toxic stims/rc’s. I ordered a plethora of pastes and this is the only vendor who came through as I assume the others were too busy having cardiac arrests... from all the shite they added to their produts. Also the product description and use of coherent language.
There was no claim to “AMPHETAMINE PASTE/PASTA lab tested at 73%(100%) or 90%+”. The speed section is a shambles (yes, there is one listing that is selling DRIED SPEED “PASTA” and I have no idea what the fuck that may be but I’d stay well clear). I don’t want to order bad carbs. I want amphetamine.
SHIPPING SPEED, STEALTH AND COMMUNICATION:
Product was ordered when vendor had already shipped his/her/it’s daily rounds.
I mentioned to the vendor that I would write a review as there had been no mention of this product yet. A few hours later I received the message that vendor has gotten in it’s Ferrari, returned to the post office and sent me aprox, 3 grams of paste and 580mg of dried paste in return for my review. I had already paid for only 2 grams and was not expecting this welcome addition. (I doubt vendor drives a Ferrari, probably a hot air balloon, blimp, tricycle or wooden clogs as is the main mode of transportation in Amsterdam). I received it today on a Tuesday so including Friday we’re talking 3 business days in Europe. Basically it arrived when I fucking willed it to, and it was shipped out on the same day I ordered. This is usually standard but 3 other paste amph vendors (with 5 rating) failed to ship within 5 days so props for this. It is Double vacuum sealed and no smell detected even after opening the first thing. The non- dried wet-ish paste has the common solvent smell but MUCH less noticeable at range. Normally you can smell these bad WET SR pastes at a meter distance.. I had to put my nose right up to the bag to smell it. The paste that had been dried had only a very feint remnant smell but who cares (whenever the fuck has there been paste or powder on here that didn’t have some kinda smell? +1 karma for whoever points out which one of the popular vendors once had a non paste batch that smelt like catpiss)
I decided on 60mg of my first ingestion dose using the dried bag of the paste which was naturally clumpy rather than fine powder. This is of course easily rectified, if one wishes to acquire a deviated septum. For the sake of the experiment I do intend to insufflate ( SNORT/RAIL for those of you who are not pseudo-intellectuals such as yours truly) 20mg in about 45 minutes in conjunction when I expect the dose to take effect. Generally I will avoid snorting most types of amphetamines. And only do so once in a while. And absolutely not dried pastes… even if it does burn so good.
Due to my terrific eyeballing skills after a year of binge cycle using SR speed I managed to scoop out precisely 63mg according to my scales. I don’t know about you but eyeballing 60mg and only being 3 mg off the mark is quite impressive or incredibly sad depending on how you look at things.
Factors that may alter / reduce effects:
I ingested 2.5 (supposedely) mg of Xanax blotter by Caslava last night approx. 9 hours ago to get some sleep. I do not however have a benzo addiction. Significant as being addicted to benzos while using amphetamine requires you to be under active influence (and alaprozalam is short acting for me topping out at 4 hours). Otherwise you’ll have yourself a fucking ball of a time… but if you’re addicted to downers you shouldn’t use stims anyhow. It’s like having balck and white as your two favourite colours and trying to jumblefuck them into each other and you just end up with an drab grey experience. On that note benzos should be required on hand if you are a stim user, along with a STRONG awareness of how nasty benzodiazepine withdrawals and how quickly dependence sets in (5-14 days for MILD wd… amphetamine WD ain’t shit, you can literally sleep it off).
My main mode of ingestion is usually capsule or a single ply of toilet paper/rizla bomb… but for the sake of blab la, I decided to just dump it in a bit of water.. swirl it around and see how quickly it dissolved. See if there were any of the clumps not dissolving. It did promptly dissolve in the water.. but here is how you tell the difference between a true never has been paste powder, and dried paste: There won’t be an oil slick (solvent ghost) formation in the water. Which this produced and was to be expected of course. Miniscule amounts did stuck to the glass which I’ve never seen before, hopefully it’s not cut with superglue to make that orange colour.
AmsterdamDrugs has very accurately and honestly put his description as paste… the photographs, and 60% (out of 100% perhaps rather than the 73% max type thing) seem hopeful at this point as I am 10 minutes into waiting for effects. Make that 20 minutes as I added wall-text above.
The taste was your typical wonderful “you are drinking fucking poison you mad man”, one which I do quite enjoy but I also enjoy my beautiful set of teeth- so I promptly listerined (mouthwash you dirty bastards, get some) and brushed the shit out of my mouth. I can confirm at this stage that it is absolutely not cut with ANY orange juice at all. I am familiar with the taste and if oranges tasted like this Tropicana would be selling a completely different fucking product. Probably one that I would buy.
Also I think the onset is “smarter” when you put stuff in capsules, at least if you’re pretending to use for “motivational, self medicational” purposes as I am. I also pre-masturbated as to not end up wasting time during the high on some endless wankathon as dopaminergic substances have tendency to spawn (I did mention unnecessary information will be present).
+45 minutes as I washed my teeth and shaved my armpits (don’t ask don’t tell). I feel effects mildish- however I do feel a xanax hangover inhibiting the effects but not making it worse. Probably smoothening things out- but onwards to phase 2:
I will now snort a 25.. a 30 mg line as previously mentioned for the sake of this review.
Once again, I don’t know why I bothered getting this 0.001g scale as I scoop out a perfectly eyeballed 45mg, just on the mark. See, I’m an expert. I will now chop it up and provide my final SUBJECTIVE (as is always) assessment (thank fuck you say) of the amp quality. I will once again mention that I react somewhat differently than the majority of people to amphetamines of various types- due to my many… countless mental handicaps and disorders. Oh, wait let me have a wiff of this expertetly eyeballed and then scale verified 50mg line (totalling my dose to 113 mg 63/50 oral/nasal split).
Jebus fuck, imagine if I had typed this review while ACTUALLY amped up and not just placebo hyper. I think I may actually disagree with my psychologists assessment that I do not suffer the HYPER component severely of ADHD. Should be noted that my shrink is myself for the most part and prefers to just throw a bunch of illicit drugs at himself for medication, but he’s the best one I’ve seen so far. I mean, my health has improved (slightly high cholesterol previously)- and I’ve become exercise obsessed during abstinence periods (to lower my resting heart rate and BP down (50-55 106/65) and chiselling out for supreme pussy finding confidence. Also, I used to be not able to breathe through my right nostril, snorting a bunch of fucking abrasive shit up sorted that problem out, so I now have perfect breathing with my mouth closed (this is important in many aspects, such as boxing or MMA which I partake in)-
Cheetas for instance have widened nostrils for improved air intake, allowing them to be so fkn fast and shit- so speed has earned its name in this case. I’m faster stronger… Moral of the story is when used correctly through complete luck and obsessive behavioural modification- amphetamine can improve one’s quality of life. HOWEVER most people will just perish and speed towards an earlier grave- so look after yourselves and you too can be a megalomaniac who writes inane drivel at blistering pace. BE GENETICALLY DIFFERENT BABY YEAH. FUCKING ALPHAMALEMETAMINE.
OK IM NOW UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE AMPHETAMINE. 1 HOUR post ingestion.
and I have made a ton of money while amped up on my profession which I was demotivated from … ok so FINAL ASSESSMENT (2nd attempt).
But not really, because I have not been able to make finely chopped line as the dried paste is not quite dry enough, bit too moist and I think it’ll remain this consistency no matter how long it is dried. but I have witnessed this with the waxy non pastes from BoyMaster or some other vendor before.. and I still snorted a lien so here we go- with a clean straw or rolled up smooth paper, use tape to make it a solid tube people, don’t use dirty contaminated money bills. That is the most retarded cokehead phenomenon ever.
Snorting went well despite the clumpiness. Won’t do it again since oral dosing clearly is working, I don’t believe insufflation onset is as instant with amphetamine as people will have you believe. It’s not coke, eat it motherfuckers. Unless you want to fix a blockage in your nasal passage like I did inadvertently.
NOW ACTUAL EFFECTS AND QUALITY (for real this time):
I detect no jitteriness (caffeine would cause this, as I’m a caffeine allergic)
Also detect no 4-fa/fma at this point or any other RC (I’m familiar with RC’s as I used to use them years ago when SR did not exist, and I don’t feel a serotonergic element- or notice pupil dilation which most RC’s cause due to hitting serotonin as well.. we don’t want that. That’s for meth heads.
Dopamine + serotonin release = more neurotoxicity.. we are all here because + serotonin replenishes much slower than dopamine which is why you can’t do MDMA / bk-MDMA/LSD(methylone) as frequently.
My heartrate is sub tachycardia levels at 75bpm from my normal 55ish range.(100bpm+ is considered tachycardia, 60-70 bpm an average resting heart rate)
Blood pressure unchanged but I can’t guarantee this for everyone, generally my blood pressure remains unchanged from amphetamine use and is naturally low. Also, the I still have to point out the Xanax HALF-life from yesterday is still perhaps lingering to make this feel smoother than it should feel for a paste. I do expect effects to increase as I’m only 10 minutes out from snorting that 20mg I was meant to snort but turned into 50mg because of my eyeballing skills… and reluctance to believe the scale telling me I was 30mg off. With this perhaps the bodyload should increase to as insufflation causes increased bodyload.
(I wish someone would explain to me why anyone would use the more highly cardiotoxic fucking shit drug that coke with is compared to high % amphetamines but they can’t. because there’s no reason to.)
Preliminary judgement:
For a paste that looks like someone vomited orange juice… I would rate this the best paste I have tried so far here and street (10+ different batchvendors) but I’m only 1-1.5hours post ingestion. I may update but you probabl don’t want to read anymore if you read this far you’re so fucking patient I wish you were my girlfriend. So my assessment is that if you are making a stash, you should add this paste to your collection clean powders of CapeCrusader, BoyMaster and IISITHISISIs… ISI.. you know that guy ffs with the new weird kind of amphetamine listed. Price is excellent vs quality. Quality is better than all other pastes. Despite this listing as 60% and of course every paste listed on SR being 100% Quality lab tested (yea right, tested in the lab of cowshit)… that is quite a feat.
and now go fuck yourselves, I’ve got shit to do. People to go and places to see. Or something. Holy shit this house is gonna be spotless first though. I see so much stuff I need to rearrange and tidy I love tidying I LOVE FUCKING CLEANING!!!! LAUNDRY TOO.. ILL DO THAT. FUCK YOURSELVES!
2500 words in 1.5 hours and I was only high for a third of this. I’ve got problems 99 problems but amphetamine ain’t one. (I don’t have time to re-read and edit this for brevity so fuck it.. you deal with it)
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Sorry for walltext but this is to be expected and accepted in an amphetamine review thread I believe? hehe. if there was bold/italics function it would make it easier to read.. but I try to be informative.
My safety talk is well researched and informed, so I definitely include the bit about taking downers if you're looking for the big red STOP button.
Yes, well thumbs up for having a safety talk. Considering regular street speed is so ridiculously cut people take 500mg+ doses to get a "buzz" and think that it's meant to be wet... I'm sure it can be hard to convince the 99.99999999% of people who haven't tried the Walter Whites of SR that it's not fictional %. As in my review above even the pastes on here have up to 6 times the purity of street speeds. and to be frank I don't think I used my first benzo until I was 23... on a coke comedown someone handed me a 2mg xanax cube and I was blown away.
Once my friend gave me a prescription 2mg flunitrazepam (2x rohypnol dose) on an amp comedown and it brought me back up for an hour until I went to sleep... well I then had many lessons in what just a 2-3 weeks of daily benzo use could do in terms of WD.
If your friends are uninformed and do get into the benzos (which aren't just a stop button but rather a comedown tool).. I think a true other stop button is alpha blocker such a clonidine which will truly stop physical effects in their track. This can be alternated with benzos since they're not cross tolerant. Thing with benzos is you're still kind of under the physical effects of the amphetamine. The other trick is of course to acidify your urine ph so that you flush your kidneys out and stop reabsorbtion in the kidneys, although can't vouch for how effective it is other than I know... that fizzy drinks and all that acidifying shit like orange juice, heavy dose vitamins etc have made me comedown quicker (allbeit not let me sleep)
(note, alpha blocker not beta blocker suck as propropanol which can be dangerous with stims)
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What is the deal with iisthisisi's shipping? In his product descriptions he says: "shipping is free of charge", but the shipping option for me would be $25. I don't get it. Can any north american customers let me know what's up? Did it cost you $25 to get it shipped?
I'll probably just wait for CC's next batch and see how that goes. I'm leaving the village this weekend, so hopefully he'll have listings up before then.
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What is the deal with iisthisisi's shipping? In his product descriptions he says: "shipping is free of charge", but the shipping option for me would be $25. I don't get it. Can any north american customers let me know what's up? Did it cost you $25 to get it shipped?
I'll probably just wait for CC's next batch and see how that goes. I'm leaving the village this weekend, so hopefully he'll have listings up before then.
Dno, I'm sure glad I'm in Europe (not in the northern part where Scandinavian customs all have sixth sense and xray vision) and australians I just feel bad for.
He said his listings should be up on 1st of september due for shipping 2nd sep I guess. 5 days.... I mean.. he will never have listings up again, go away.. CapeCrusader was shot by a great white shark with lasers, u know how the sharks are down there in Capetown.. mega sharks.. no more CC for anyone. it's all mine. my precioussssssssssssssssss... I deposited ahead of time now cause I missed the last two (ok I ordered IIS once before instead). I am enjoying the fact that btc value has gone up from 91 to 124... to bad that has just made me spend a bunch on weird stuff that doesn't arrive.. I take back tip of getting ghb as alternating comedown rem to benzos at 7$ pop.. from wellness.. Fkn thing hasn't arrived and it's been 1.5 weeks.
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Dno, I'm sure glad I'm in Europe (not in the northern part where Scandinavian customs all have sixth sense and xray vision) and australians I just feel bad for.
I never had any problems in my small country in Scandinavia ;-)
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Dno, I'm sure glad I'm in Europe (not in the northern part where Scandinavian customs all have sixth sense and xray vision) and australians I just feel bad for.
I never had any problems in my small country in Scandinavia ;-)
I'm gonna assume you're in the one with a population of only like 300k people in which case there's probably only 1 part time customs officer because the rest are busy building viking ships so they can get back to the continent
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Denmark has world's worst customs.. Honestly, it is like they want it to be the transit country for other northern countries
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What is the deal with iisthisisi's shipping? In his product descriptions he says: "shipping is free of charge", but the shipping option for me would be $25. I don't get it. Can any north american customers let me know what's up? Did it cost you $25 to get it shipped?
I'll probably just wait for CC's next batch and see how that goes. I'm leaving the village this weekend, so hopefully he'll have listings up before then.
I believe he puts a lot more into the 'stealth' part of the job, and I guess you'll have to let your imagination run wild.
Might be the difference between sending a business class letter domestic, and shipping an fragile glass Christmas ornament only the Dutch know how to make, that I ordered off ebay, and is insured against breakage. Might cost a little more dough, but from what I hear, it's worth it. I hope to find out, if he's not out of stock again Sept 3rd.
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Thanks for the reply jag. I really only want two grams, so that translates to an extra $12.50/g. I can appreciate stealth is important, but for two grams, the extra stealth probably isn't necessary as two grams should be fairly easy to hide in regular mail. But if i were ordering five or ten grams, shipping would break down to an extra $5 and $2 per gram respectively. There I could see it making sense to go with iisthisisi.
I'll just sit here on my hands until CC gets some listings back up. Last time they were going to be up, then they weren't, then I couldn't wait, so I placed another order for some ganja and shortly thereafter CC had listings up again. I didn't want two letters in transit at the same time, so I couldn't order. Bummed because it sold out in a matter of days. People like speed.
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I had my breakfast lines all ready to go beside my bed, then i go to grab my headphones beside the plate and hear the plate ding!!
The cord flipped the plate and now it's all on my carpet!! i just hoovered whatever i can get into my nose. sheeeeiiit!
It's gonna be a good day boys!
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Yeah guys i am sorry about the up and down listings. Truth is i cannot even come close to meeting demand especially now with the lower prices. It is clear that the current situation just isn't working. I am going to have to focus on scaling up so that listings don't have to be taken down and so that i can also put up some bulk listings. Please bear with me. This is going to be sorted out soon. I will have some more listings up by Monday.
Best regards
CC
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Sorry for walltext but this is to be expected and accepted in an amphetamine review thread I believe? hehe. if there was bold/italics function it would make it easier to read.. but I try to be informative.
My safety talk is well researched and informed, so I definitely include the bit about taking downers if you're looking for the big red STOP button.
Yes, well thumbs up for having a safety talk. Considering regular street speed is so ridiculously cut people take 500mg+ doses to get a "buzz" and think that it's meant to be wet... I'm sure it can be hard to convince the 99.99999999% of people who haven't tried the Walter Whites of SR that it's not fictional %. As in my review above even the pastes on here have up to 6 times the purity of street speeds. and to be frank I don't think I used my first benzo until I was 23... on a coke comedown someone handed me a 2mg xanax cube and I was blown away.
Once my friend gave me a prescription 2mg flunitrazepam (2x rohypnol dose) on an amp comedown and it brought me back up for an hour until I went to sleep... well I then had many lessons in what just a 2-3 weeks of daily benzo use could do in terms of WD.
If your friends are uninformed and do get into the benzos (which aren't just a stop button but rather a comedown tool).. I think a true other stop button is alpha blocker such a clonidine which will truly stop physical effects in their track. This can be alternated with benzos since they're not cross tolerant. Thing with benzos is you're still kind of under the physical effects of the amphetamine. The other trick is of course to acidify your urine ph so that you flush your kidneys out and stop reabsorbtion in the kidneys, although can't vouch for how effective it is other than I know... that fizzy drinks and all that acidifying shit like orange juice, heavy dose vitamins etc have made me comedown quicker (allbeit not let me sleep)
(note, alpha blocker not beta blocker suck as propropanol which can be dangerous with stims)
I have a safety talk whenever I share substances with my acquaintances, no matter what it is. This time I stressed the purity of the substance, noted the physical / mental effects when you're on your way up, on your way to the 'right level' (for out situation) and on your to having overdone it [and what you can do to stop it]. Typically panic attacks can be avoided, but in this case no one spoke up!
Definitely rethinking my approach, as I said... Might have to cherry pick who gets to partake in the future, based on past performance in regards to following my instructions. I have yet to hurt myself while experimenting, and I wholeheartedly believe this is due to me following very [read: very] basic guidelines which I have set out for myself after carefully researching each substance before use. That's not to say I haven't ever done stupid / dangerous things, but not without first making absolutely sure I wasn't going to need a trip to the hospital, either by knowing dosage limits or whatever the case may be. I forget that most people who experiment with substances, when they see powder, they immediately want it up their nose, no matter what it is!
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CC's order just arrived and wow, amazing as always. Slightly more beige in color and smoother on the nose, just perfect. Looks overweight too and its almost 100% dry but don't care enough to bust out and calibrate the $400 MG scale I bought (I know, what's the point then!). 20 mins in and im feeling great. Oh yeah, it's been about slightly over a week since my last dosing (except for a quick bump a few days ago). CC is the man. Thank god I stocked up on BP's xanax bars before he ran out cuz I definitely will be needing them!!!
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I had my breakfast lines all ready to go beside my bed, then i go to grab my headphones beside the plate and hear the plate ding!!
The cord flipped the plate and now it's all on my carpet!! i just hoovered whatever i can get into my nose. sheeeeiiit!
It's gonna be a good day boys!
Although sad and I feel for you, I must say, that was a wonderful description of a not so precious moment.
+1 to you Meow!
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Just a heads up if you're a bit......... lacking in patience like I am when it comes to waiting around for stuff.
I've lowered my prices a bit more towards CC and BM to $12.51 for 2 grams of paste, approx. 1 g of dry.
cannot tell you why i process paste as i do - i think you know why...
You should probably point out in the first line of your description that you don't ship for 5 days....
this is the second one of my amp orders that is delaying like hell. So frustratng. I've ordered from 4 diff vendors (last weeekend) to make sure I had some for this weekend. (Shipping takes 2-3 business days from NL&DE to where I am)
altho maxh I didn't expect to receive sometime like tuesday-wednesday since I ordered late last wednesday night.
Upon enquiry I received the explanation:
Description page (not first line) of product says:
""...Currently NO DAILY shipping due to setting up new infrastructure."
shipment thus defaults to standard SR procedure, 5 days of processing time from the time of ordering.
"
I don't know anything about vending or vendor accouts but if you have product what is this 5 days of processing time?
Frustrating. I'm sitting here with a multitude of downers and not a single upper lol. megafacepalmarinos.
I've consistently been polite to you and you've been rude since day one, acting like that for an order of under $15. I guess you want your cake and eat it too, i don't do this to get rich, obviously and it's people like you that make me consider withdrawing from the hardly profitable retail market at all. With your 'style' of communicating I am surprised people want to deal with you at all.
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In the interest of anyone willing to try:
Seller stoeprand
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/a9d940fb88
2g of dry sulfate for 25€ shipping from NL, 25g for 200, and much more (methylone, mdma, speed paste etc.)
Ships vacuumed/x-ray proof depending on country and ships to Australia (only 25% refund instead of 50% showing proof of seizure).
I'm posting this just because I stumbled upon his listings and read fellows posts here asking for Australia shipping to vendors.
I didn't try the service nor I'm affiliated to.
(sorry if old)
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jooo..
got some of "amphetamine tri-basicphosphate salt" to be honest: i can't give a proper feedback BUT i did some little.. "small" line (because of some circumstances) and i have to say that i'm in love.
got really only a little bit and i'm flying aroung like... booom. did only one hit - usually i need more .. - i'm a regular. BM CC, iisthisisi (wtf up with this name!?) is what i take normally..
sorry but fucking "boom"
>ufff...
**SNAP**
thank god there's xanax
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jooo..
got some of "amphetamine tri-basicphosphate salt" to be honest: i can't give a proper feedback BUT i did some little.. "small" line (because of some circumstances) and i have to say that i'm in love.
got really only a little bit and i'm flying aroung like... booom. did only one hit - usually i need more .. - i'm a regular. BM CC, iisthisisi (wtf up with this name!?) is what i take normally..
sorry but fucking "boom"
>ufff...
**SNAP**
thank god there's xanax
nice to hear and nice u are ok.
iisthisisi I really hope you know exactly what you are doing.
take care
12345
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It is hard to believe they [Silk Road] allowed this blatant rip off back on The Road, but i see he's back! Here's my first and only buy from him when I first purchased my first meth buy here. Heed my warning;
vroomvroom was my first meth purchase off The Road. So long ago. And the gram he sent me landed me in the ER! Talk about Alien Meth!
But it has always been my policy to finalize payment with in an hours of receipt. It is the only way finalizing should be done. So I could only trust this human being I’d never met before to do the right thing and address this poison he’d sent me.
He did respond by admitting that that batch was bad and offered a reship. 4 months later and many PM’s as to where it was followed. Each time – 3 PM’s were sent to me asking for my shipping info. I encrypted and sent it 4 times more and then he finally quit answering me then he was gone with the wind!
I was so shocked when I saw much later that Silk Road had allowed this proven thief back onto The Road. I wrote them immediately and asked what the fuck were they doing? He should have never been allowed back! When SR Support never responded to my PM about this rip off – I wrote him and told him I was still waiting for my order to be filled and he must remember me because he was here for a while longer each day and my message to him was never read.
I see buyers are still buying from this thief and soon he will start asking for FE or you morons will start that stupid shit, ‘”FE’d for trusted dealer!”’ crap and get ripped off too! If you have even a bit of mind left or are new here – don’t buy from this proven thief!
I’m sure you fools will continue but this is my experience with the prick.
Fuck you vroom! StarlightExpress - who ever you masquerade as now or in this case AGAIN!
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sorry but fucking "boom"
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thank god there's xanax
Could you be more specific on the boom? :D
Regarding Xanax: I hadn't ever tried benzos until a week ago after I got some Alprazolam(=Xanax) blotters from Caslava. His shipping time and stealth are absolutely remarkable by the way, full recommendation!
The blotters seem to work fine (as far as I can judge as a benzo virgin). Been finally able to call my mom without freaking out on the third word she says and start to sort things out a little. Sad though that it needs tranquilizers to get that done.
Anyway, thing is that I've had nightmares during two out of three nights on Xanax, has anyone experienced those? 2 hours ago I could still remember what it was last night, now it's mostly gone. It wasn't nightmares in which you're chased by monsters who want to kill you or something it was more like that "reality" was so very disturbingly different from what's normal that it really freaked me out.
That's not exactly what I expected from a benzo that's commonly propagated as a good sleep aid. :D
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Just wondering has anyone from the US received the last batch of Captain Crusader's product yet.
I have no doubt it will make it here, as the guy has legendary stealth/feedback/product - but I'm not sure the average shipping time to the US from his location.
7-14 days roughly?
Thanks,
Vanquish
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jooo..
got some of "amphetamine tri-basicphosphate salt" to be honest: i can't give a proper feedback BUT i did some little.. "small" line (because of some circumstances) and i have to say that i'm in love.
got really only a little bit and i'm flying aroung like... booom. did only one hit - usually i need more .. - i'm a regular. BM CC, iisthisisi (wtf up with this name!?) is what i take normally..
sorry but fucking "boom"
>ufff...
**SNAP**
thank god there's xanax
What happened? Did you consume too much? Did you weigh your dose or can you give a milligram estimation? Do you have experience with similar products and if so can you compare?
Did you read iisthisisis post about consuming only ONE milligram, experiencing stimulation, getting comments about dialated pupils etc?
I recommend everybody trying that if you cant resist the experimenting.
And about the benzos:
I think I've read they actually makes it harder for the body to enter the deeper stages of sleep so your brain dont get to repair it self as good as during "normal" sleep. This leads to not storing memories as well (the famous benzo memory loss!) and other cognitive impairments. I also think missing the deep sleep prevents some of the well needed muscle recovery after a stim session.
Everyone who thinks of using benzos should also put some time into going on drugs-forum or similar place and read the massive amout of stories from ppl suffering years of depression and mental issues after benzo addiction and withdrawal.
There are many alternatives for inducing sleep, melatonin seems quite safe, but planning your consumption so you wont need to worry about the dangers of strong downer medication is always better.
Ive also seen a study of cannabis preventing neurotoxicity from meth in rats brains, it changes melatonin levels and seem to make ppl sleepy so it works for some but theres many storys of ppl having panic attacks, psychosis etc when consuming cannabis to come down after uppers so I would not recommend anyone taking the risk.
play it safe
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After reading some comments on the phosphate I decided to try some myself.
Took a line of only 5 mg and must say it's quite different from the sulfate.
It's hard to describe, but it hits you harder, slight increase in blood pressure and heart rate.
Definitely more stimulation than sulfate.
Furthermore I agree with Maria Larsson, take it easy on the dose. I do not recommend taking a big line like one did with the sulfate. If 5 mg can do this, I wonder what 50 could do.
Currently experiencing a very pleasant stimulation, not rushy like the sulfate but more gentle, though a lot of it.
The onset is imo nearly identical to the sulfate, but this stuff is just different.
I never thought changing the salt would've such a big influence.
I also did a solubility test and measured the pH of the saturated solution.
Solubility: ~400 mg/10 ml
pH: 7.25
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And about the benzos:
I think I've read they actually makes it harder for the body to enter the deeper stages of sleep so your brain dont get to repair it self as good as during "normal" sleep. This leads to not storing memories as well (the famous benzo memory loss!) and other cognitive impairments. I also think missing the deep sleep prevents some of the well needed muscle recovery after a stim session.
This is true, I think what happens is your brain doesn't hit the full REM sleep cycle resulting in lackluster quality of sleep.
But considering you're coming off stims, any sleep should be considered good sleep.
Melatonin, Diphenhydramine, Kratom, etc have all been ineffective for sleep after stims for me.
I'm thinking of trying Seroquel or Mitrazepine or something similar next time I use stimulants - which won't be for a quite a while.
I'm staying the fuck away from meth though, even orally it's way to addicting and the random sores on your face and mouth are fucked up.
Couldn't even imagine main lining meth, that would lead to horrible addiction problems.
Stay safe,
Vanquish
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Just wondering has anyone from the US received the last batch of Captain Crusader's product yet.
I have no doubt it will make it here, as the guy has legendary stealth/feedback/product - but I'm not sure the average shipping time to the US from his location.
7-14 days roughly?
Thanks,
Vanquish
Not me yet, hopefully today or tomorrow. Last order from CC came in 5 days flat somehow, but the two before that were around 12-16 days.
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Just received from CC.
I will be updating on quality.
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nice to hear and nice u are ok.
iisthisisi I really hope you know exactly what you are doing.
take care
12345
yes i'm ok, thanks...
came home yesterday after having some beers (i was really drunk) and surprisingly i've got mail from isthisisisis (what a name..).
and of course i couldn't resist and instantly hit some up my nose... it burns really much but i somehow like it... i felt sober 5min after (if even) and i was in a very good mood and everything as far as i can remember. ;)
can't really say much about the weight i did but it's quite potent to say the least.
good bet to buy this stuff..
</advertising>
i have history in different products of the "big three" BM, CC and listhihihihi, i'm a regular user. if this is important to anyone
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nice to hear and nice u are ok.
iisthisisi I really hope you know exactly what you are doing.
take care
12345
yes i'm ok, thanks...
came home yesterday after having some beers (i was really drunk) and surprisingly i've got mail from isthisisisis (what a name..).
and of course i couldn't resist and instantly hit some up my nose... it burns really much but i somehow like it... i felt sober 5min after (if even) and i was in a very good mood and everything as far as i can remember. ;)
can't really say much about the weight i did but it's quite potent to say the least.
good bet to buy this stuff..
</advertising>
i have history in different products of the "big three" BM, CC and listhihihihi, i'm a regular user. if this is important to anyone
So you eye balled a dose of extremely potent amphetamine while heavily intoxicated with alcohol?
Not very smart mate.
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Did anyone try Arnarchy's speed around here?
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Hi guys,
When buying and reselling speed paste how do you price it? Do you dry it and sell dry or sell wet but cheaper? Also is speed more potent when wet?
Any reviews for Fastway's speed paste?
Cheers
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Virmo offers dex for ad(h)ders. And speed low/medium/high quality.
If it's not on the listing, ask.
Dex is expensive on sr unfortunately, but worth it.
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ps: wet speed can or can not be better.
On SR it's usually just made wet to get more money.
So easy to make 50grams 100grams with just water...
Would be nice if a good solvent was added. Then again, plastic does not like solvents.. plus why not wash it and then sell it?
On the other side, I read that dry speed can have more cutting stuff... But I don't understand that.. since they can sell speed/caffeine wet...
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Did anyone try Arnarchy's speed around here?
I don't have much to compare it to, I've only tried boymasters, which I loved.
Arnachy's speed was REAL wet. Like the vacuum had sucked some of the solvent out the bag along with the paste.
I guess the high is what I was expecting. So no complaints from be, but I don't know good speed from bad.
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So who has tried the tri-basichosphate so far? Im considering testing myself, any more comments from those who have tried it?
Also, whats the deal with the "pinkish" batch from CC, one I got was pure white as always and smmoootthh...
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Alright, finally able to log in the forum to give some feedback on the tri-base I received from Iistisisi almost a week ago.
I wasn't sure what to expect as I am no chemical expert let alone that I had ever heard of this substance or what it does.
All I knew was iisthisisi said here in the forums that he only took 1 mg so that kinda worried me. For regular speed I don't use a scale anymore, but for this styff I got the scale out once again, I didn't wanna get fucked.
From what I had read here I expected a dry, odorless salt but it was a bit wet with a very strong odor but not the regular speed odor. It smells like speed, but somewhat different.
Carefully opened the whole thing and let it sit to dry and after 30 minutes or so, there it was, dry and looking like salt or sugar. Nice, snowwhite crystals. But the odor was still present so I decided to wait until the next day, since I had planned to snort it for the first try. I didn't wanna burn holes in my nose.
The next day the odor was almost completely gone. I measured out 1mg and up my nose it went.
It burned alot more then regular speed but nothing to worry about still.
Unfortunately I didn't feel anything, and I waited another hour or so, just incase. But nothing happened.
Ok, the oral way then, and dumped some in my coffee, this time about 10mg.
After a while it hit the spot. And it hit the spot good.
In my opinion it feels different than regular speed. You feel it's there but on the same time it goes a bit unnoticed if you don't pay attention to it.
Unlike the speed I use from CC and iisthisisi on a very regular base, this stuff gives me slightly increased heart rate and makes me jittery but nothing unpleasant. It's not the clean high I'm used to.
And holy shit, does this stuff keep you awake for a long ass time.
I didn't exactly time it but I've been awake and gaming on this for almost 48hrs straight before I started to feel something like a fatigue. And with no more than 10mg in the morning and another 10mg somewhere late at night.
On regular speed I sleep and eat 3 meals without a problem, but not with this stuff. I just didn't think about eating or drinking. Let alone sleep.
Nice side effect was that it improved my gaming skills because I was uber-focussed.
Another thing that's different then speed, in my case, is that this stuff makes me horny so my wife had to suffer it lmao. And I could keep going. Good stuff.
In my case there wasn't much of a comedown, I went for a long sleep (read as: more than the usual 6hrs) and felt fine.
So all in all I'm pretty pleased with this stuff, for how small the amounts you need.
I will order more for sure, I might even chose this above regular speed from now on. Highly recommended!
Thanks for the tester iisthisisi!!
Grtz,
Sham
PS: pardon my English, not hanging out here often anymore, didn't improve my skills :D
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Yeah guys i am sorry about the up and down listings. Truth is i cannot even come close to meeting demand especially now with the lower prices. It is clear that the current situation just isn't working. I am going to have to focus on scaling up so that listings don't have to be taken down and so that i can also put up some bulk listings. Please bear with me. This is going to be sorted out soon. I will have some more listings up by Monday.
Best regards
CC
It's allright Cape! You do an incredible job as it is.
What puzzles me is this statement; " Truth is i cannot even come close to meeting demand especially now with the lower prices" - You sound as if your're being forced to sell at such low prices. You've always been phenomenally low on price, and shipping. I don't think you'd lose much business if you upped your price like 15% or so.
I was just telling another friend on here, how I haven't had Amph since before June! - Remember, right at the end of May, you, BM, and I think IisthisisI, were all out of stock or not selling for whatever reason? - Well it just so happens I won a sample of Crystal Meth, and it was FIRE as the kids say.
Since then, the only stim I've been using is Meth, and it's a much more undependable assortment of quality out there. In fact, right now there's only one sure fire guy I go to.
I can't wait to get some of that smooth clean Amph of yours. - I will have ฿'s on September 3rd-4th for sure.
Expect at least a 5g order from me!
I saw on your profile that you should have your listings back up by then. - I hope so!!
Thanks
jagfug
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Virmo's speed:
A lot better than the speed of amsterdope, hollandonline, globaldrugs (?), meyer lansky and mostly all other vendors.
Last virmo batch was a bit better than BM's speed because it was washed.
Not sure if they have it in stock now or a different batch. But it's worth the try and you can always contact them.
This is from NL though and I'm aware a lot of people are scared to order from the NL.
They can perfectly ship to germany and the UK as far as I know.
And they have dexies+benzedrine, nomnom!
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I cant decide which one to get . the amphetamine from CC or iisthisisi ?
and what is the difference between d/l-amphetamine from iisthisisi and the amphetamine from CC?. And what is this new amphetamine tri-basicphosphate salt ? from the review i read in this thread it sounds like it lasts a lot longer like meth? thats not what i would want. Anyone know from what country CC ships ? I cant see because he has no listings currently.
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I cant decide which one to get . the amphetamine from CC or iisthisisi ?
and what is the difference between d/l-amphetamine from iisthisisi and the amphetamine from CC?. And what is this new amphetamine tri-basicphosphate salt ? from the review i read in this thread it sounds like it lasts a lot longer like meth? thats not what i would want. Anyone know from what country CC ships ? I cant see because he has no listings currently.
I'm not sure about your other questions, so I won't answer them.
But CapeCrusader sends from South Africa.
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I cant decide which one to get . the amphetamine from CC or iisthisisi ?
and what is the difference between d/l-amphetamine from iisthisisi and the amphetamine from CC?. And what is this new amphetamine tri-basicphosphate salt ? from the review i read in this thread it sounds like it lasts a lot longer like meth? thats not what i would want. Anyone know from what country CC ships ? I cant see because he has no listings currently.
They are some of the more respected vendors here.
If you don't mind receiving from NL (iisthisisi) you can try both and then decide for yourself.
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I cant decide which one to get . the amphetamine from CC or iisthisisi ?
and what is the difference between d/l-amphetamine from iisthisisi and the amphetamine from CC?. And what is this new amphetamine tri-basicphosphate salt ? from the review i read in this thread it sounds like it lasts a lot longer like meth? thats not what i would want. Anyone know from what country CC ships ? I cant see because he has no listings currently.
I am having the same problem. My solution is to buy all the above. ;D
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Hey guys
I just cannot access the main site at all. I've been trying for the past 6 hours or so but no luck. Let's hope this problem is sorted out by tomorrow so that those listings can go up.
Best regards
CC
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changing tor user identity has helped me.
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Here is my short review from iisthisisi tri-base speed.
It will be a short review because English is not my language.
Last Friday my girlfriend and I took this new stuff for the first time . It was a little wet but after drying there were nice, snow white crystals left.
No powder as with regular speed.
She took 50 MG and I 60 mg early in the morning with low tolerance. ( 4 weeks nothing)
It hit us faster then regular speed and gave us a good feeling.Nice rush and a slightly increased heartbeat.
There were no nasty side effects and the come down was easy.
Eating and drinking was the same as with regular speed (not much).
We went to bed at 1.00 hour and had a reasonable night rest.
This stuff is definitively stronger then normal speed
To give a objective review is always difficult and for that reason I bring a sample to the lab for analyze as I promised to Iisthisisi
I will bring it Thursday to the lab and my first change to post the results here will be Tuesday 17 September
Speedie
Sorry . Iisthisisi for the late review but there were some personnel issues.
To give a objective review is always diffucult and for that reason I bring a sample to the lab for analyze as I promised to Iisthisisi
Speedie
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I cant decide which one to get . the amphetamine from CC or iisthisisi ?
and what is the difference between d/l-amphetamine from iisthisisi and the amphetamine from CC?. And what is this new amphetamine tri-basicphosphate salt ? from the review i read in this thread it sounds like it lasts a lot longer like meth? thats not what i would want. Anyone know from what country CC ships ? I cant see because he has no listings currently.
The come down with CC's stuff in the past was easier for me.
Iisthisisi's requires some hash or benzos for me, if i really want to sleep afterwards.
But maybe i overdose to much.
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Hey guys
I just cannot access the main site at all. I've been trying for the past 6 hours or so but no luck. Let's hope this problem is sorted out by tomorrow so that those listings can go up.
Best regards
CC
I'd been on for about 45 mins Beginning approx 23:15 UTC Tuesday, then like Cinderella, at Midnight (UTC) I clicked on "Cape Crusader" from my fanned list, and BOOM - it turned into a pumpkin! and I got the following message:
"Silk Road is temporarily closed. We will reopen asap."
At least that tells us that it's something they're working on. No doubt to improve and stay one step ahead of Leo.
Well Cape, I hope you take advantage of this down time and get a good nights sleep. It's like 2am your time, so I'm sure you are.
Expect a large order from me when you log on tomorrow. I haven't had Amph since MAY! - I haven't exactly been abstinent. I kept falling for Amphs ugly cousing Meth. I mean, she just gives it away over here in the land of Obama giving away all the milk and honey!
But he has to remain true to his Muslim faith, and support the Brotherhood.
Oh shit, now I'm descending into politics? - OK, I'm outta here.
Let's hope the thankless unseen heroes behind the scenes that keep SR safe and alive, have things humming along nicely as the sun rises on the Seine.
Let's hold it together people. We can get through this.
~CHIP~
[EDIT for Update]
I'm back on! 12:33am UTC (London) time Wednesday - Only one problem. I gotta wait for you to wake up and turn those listings on!
Oh well. It's 8:30pm here in on the East Coast of Obamaland. - I have some Breaking Bad on the DVR to catch up on.
I'll be looking for you bright and early! ;D
Whew! Can't believe I made it through those 45mins w/o losing it! :P
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Does CC require FE?
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Does CC require FE?
Nope. Done at least 10 orders with him. Never a problem, and usally 7 days or less to NE US. You wont be disappointed. ;)
8) Chip 8)
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Does CC require FE?
Nope. Not last time I checked.
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Okay I didn't think so. The reason I asked is because I'm looking at his feedback and seeing people on the WEST coast receive packages and here I am on the EAST coast and have yet to receive mine.
Fingers crossed!
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Okay I didn't think so. The reason I asked is because I'm looking at his feedback and seeing people on the WEST coast receive packages and here I am on the EAST coast and have yet to receive mine.
Fingers crossed!
Don't forget Organized "Labor Day" which sets things back. Usually more than one day, as many plan a vacation for that weekend. Then you know, they get back to work, and they're all depressed because they're back to work, so they go slow.
You'll get it.
I just wish he'd wake up and put his listings back up. Something with the internet where he lives. He seems to have more trouble than the rest of us, whenever SR is having trouble. Like the past 24 hrs where it goes down for 45 mins, then later on for 10. - If you're reading this Cape, just keep trying like every 15 mins. Seems like they've been working on it all night.
Hopefully they've fixed the glitches and all will be well today.
Standing by with ฿ ready!
8) Chip 8)
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Still no luck. I've been battling to access the forums and have had no luck accessing the main site
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Still no luck. I've been battling to access the forums and have had no luck accessing the main site
it's on and off for me too, but keep trying, i believe in you!
exams are coming up in 2 weeks and there will be an exponentially increasing demand to fill (due to all the free samples i give out). capping up 25-30mg and selling it at over 500% markup as 'generic adderall' is so ridiculously profitable. and real adderalls go for 5-10$ a pill, whereas this stuff costs less than $1 for the equivalent amount and it lasts longer. so there's the student market and nobody else can compete as adderall/vyvanse is prescription and thus the quantity you can get a month is limited - and no other stimulant (molly, methylone, coke, mephedrone, etc) is as cheap and efficient as the speed, so i got the recreational market too.
now u can go to bed soundly every night knowing you're helping me and many others at the top university in my state get grades (and paying my tuition as well) :D
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I find restarting TOR gets me back to SR login 90% of the time.
I've been dry for weeks now... placed an order with iisthisisi which was processing for ages (I assume because of login issues), cancelled to order from CC yesterday, who must have taken his listings down 5 mins before I tried to order :*(
Have placed another order with iisthisisi but I'll be back to the end of the queue again now I guess...
Anyone know when BM will be back in business?
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Listings are up now. Bad news is i will probably have to take them down again. I cannot access the site at all again. I will not be able to process orders like this. It's a nightmare
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Listings are up now. Bad news is i will probably have to take them down again. I cannot access the site at all again. I will not be able to process orders like this. It's a nightmare
Just give me a few hours to transfer those BTC in and make the purchase! :P Also, are you closing your Tor / TorBrowser between attempts? Because if you leave it open, you should keep the same circuit and be able to access it almost as well as usual once you actually do get access to begin with.
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Listings are up now. Bad news is i will probably have to take them down again. I cannot access the site at all again. I will not be able to process orders like this. It's a nightmare
Will you be shipping to Australia?
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Has anyone had "unusually long" delivery times with CC? first order from him to eastern half of US, about to auto-finalize in a couple days and still nothin. I have nothing but high hopes but dammit mail get a move on...
(edit) I actually feel pretty confident it will get here eventually. Maybe by mentioning it on here I'll be posting tomorrow "lulz it kame en 2day, eye sew stewpid" even though now I probably jinxed it...
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Has anyone had "unusually long" delivery times with CC? first order from him to eastern half of US, about to auto-finalize in a couple days and still nothin. I have nothing but high hopes but dammit mail get a move on...
(edit) I actually feel pretty confident it will get here eventually. Maybe by mentioning it on here I'll be posting tomorrow "lulz it kame en 2day, eye sew stewpid" even though now I probably jinxed it...
I haven't placed an order with him for... well, several months, but the two I made in the past both took so long I had to take them into resolution and extend. No worries, mate, it'll get there any day I'm sure.
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Fuck me... CC is already running out of stock, apparently. Those 10g listings lasted all of... 4 hours O.o
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Uh oh. Where did 3.5 of the 5g of CC go! And those 40 of those 75 bars too! Looks like another order is necessary, and issthisi or CC it will be. Very true what someone mentioned about benzo use -- you feel like you've slept (which i'll admit is way better than not sleeping), but you still look physically like you haven't. Take weeklong breaks in between binges, at least!
PS Any wild theories on what kind of change BM's product will be and what new one will be coming to the market??
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OK motherfuckers! We're coming up on midnight in New York City. That's right. Try and find me!
All I know is CC's listings are ALL up, and the site has been running well for the past half hour. - Now all of you go change your panties, and place your orders! - Geez! What a bunch of fucking babies!
Glad to see you back CC. Order's should be flooding in soon.
Order up everyone! The DDoS is over.
Also the price of the ฿ has fallen $10 today. Seems to always coincide with SR being down. Hmmmm......
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also stay away from interways.. that shit is like 34% amph, 27% caffeine and the rest is 4-fa/fma toxic shite.
From where do you know?! :)
-Acen
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@Acen
I read it as well. It was on his vendor thread or some product offer thread. I was astonished.
The first post was: "Hey, buy my speed lowered price" etc. Then a buyer wrote "Hi, I tested your special offer speed and it was half caffeine, half speed, some toxic shit and so on" (with %).
THEN the vendor replied saying "I'm well aware of it".
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Question:
I read somewhere that speed loses its effect after some time is it true? Can you suggest a way to store it prolonging the effect as long as possible? Thanks.
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I am truly amazed. Looks like it's going to be 100 orders in less than 24 hours.
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anyone else experienced mail problem whit CapeCrusader? I have waited 20days for now and letter has not arrived jet :/. the more stranger thing is I also ordered some pot from TheDaggaCouple who ships in the same place where CapeCrusader ships(South Africa) both of them are in resolution center now, I extended it 15 days.
I really hope they will arrive, because if not then my stats will be ruined =(..
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I am truly amazed. Looks like it's going to be 100 orders in less than 24 hours.
Is there any possibility 5gr listings will show up again soon or we have to wait a new batch?
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I am truly amazed. Looks like it's going to be 100 orders in less than 24 hours.
Is there any possibility 5gr listings will show up again soon or we have to wait a new batch?
Same question, I will have my bitcoins this week, do you think 5g listings will show up again? When will you have a new batch?
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Has anyone had "unusually long" delivery times with CC? first order from him to eastern half of US, about to auto-finalize in a couple days and still nothin. I have nothing but high hopes but dammit mail get a move on...
(edit) I actually feel pretty confident it will get here eventually. Maybe by mentioning it on here I'll be posting tomorrow "lulz it kame en 2day, eye sew stewpid" even though now I probably jinxed it...
lulz it kame en 2day, eye sew stewpid
Figures I was going to hold off on going to resolution till today but was worried I wouldn't get home in time. So it took... about 12 business days from the day it was marked shipped (that takes in to account the holliday on monday as not being a business day). Haven't tested it any but it finally arrived.
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anyone else experienced mail problem whit CapeCrusader? I have waited 20days for now and letter has not arrived jet :/. the more stranger thing is I also ordered some pot from TheDaggaCouple who ships in the same place where CapeCrusader ships(South Africa) both of them are in resolution center now, I extended it 15 days.
I really hope they will arrive, because if not then my stats will be ruined =(..
Yeah I was waiting till the last moment to put in to resolution. All I can say is be patient. Like I mentioned in a post above it took "about 12" business days (let's just say it's +/- 1 from actual date) to get to eastern half of US. That number was derived from looking at the date it was marked shipped and counting only week days and excluding monday as that was a holiday.
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@Acen
I read it as well. It was on his vendor thread or some product offer thread. I was astonished.
The first post was: "Hey, buy my speed lowered price" etc. Then a buyer wrote "Hi, I tested your special offer speed and it was half caffeine, half speed, some toxic shit and so on" (with %).
THEN the vendor replied saying "I'm well aware of it".
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Question:
I read somewhere that speed loses its effect after some time is it true? Can you suggest a way to store it prolonging the effect as long as possible? Thanks.
Didn´t find it with the search engine here... Could you (or someone else who knows) please give me the link to the post? :)
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@Acen
I read it as well. It was on his vendor thread or some product offer thread. I was astonished.
The first post was: "Hey, buy my speed lowered price" etc. Then a buyer wrote "Hi, I tested your special offer speed and it was half caffeine, half speed, some toxic shit and so on" (with %).
THEN the vendor replied saying "I'm well aware of it".
°_°
Question:
I read somewhere that speed loses its effect after some time is it true? Can you suggest a way to store it prolonging the effect as long as possible? Thanks.
Didn´t find it with the search engine here... Could you (or someone else who knows) please give me the link to the post? :)
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=203967.0
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Here you are:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=203967.msg1515719
Have a look before it gets edited...
Google the substance "4-Methylmethamphetamine" and you will find stories about horrible side effects, governments warning about amphetamine contaminated with it because its toxic properties, cause of deaths and users in hospitals.
CLEARNEThttp://euroalert.net/en/news.aspx?idn=16254
The European Commission proposed an EU-wide ban on 4-methylamphetamine – or 4-MA, a synthetic substance with similar physical effects to amphetamines. According to the Commission, this drug has been associated with 21 deaths in four EU countries in 2010-2012 alone.
No wonder the good boys in this thread like bm, cc, iis etc who provide safer amphetamine not mixed with random toxic waste poison are selling like ice cream a hot summer day.
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Here you are:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=203967.msg1515719
Have a look before it gets edited...
Google the substance "4-Methylmethamphetamine" and you will find stories about horrible side effects, governments warning about amphetamine contaminated with it because its toxic properties, cause of deaths and users in hospitals.
CLEARNEThttp://euroalert.net/en/news.aspx?idn=16254
The European Commission proposed an EU-wide ban on 4-methylamphetamine – or 4-MA, a synthetic substance with similar physical effects to amphetamines. According to the Commission, this drug has been associated with 21 deaths in four EU countries in 2010-2012 alone.
No wonder the good boys in this thread like bm, cc, iis etc who provide safer amphetamine not mixed with random toxic waste poison are selling like ice cream a hot summer day.
Thank you for the info. For sure, Interways is not a reliable seller, he did recognize it himself in that thread. Funny attitude, kinda "i dont need you people trying to get info about the stuff you buy, my only goal is to sell to ppl not looking at the forum". Deserves a quote :
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Good delivery but FAKE product.
I have made an a test with cromatography and this is the results:
37,74 % Anphetamine
24,46 % caffeine
5,60 % 4-metilanphetamine
32,20 % methanol
With a simply thin layer chromatography you can detect caffeine and 4-metilanphetamine (highly toxic).
With a GC-MS you can detect and quantify the ingredients of this "speed".
It´s not a 72% quality speed.
This was posted on the reviews page, just FYI.
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However, about 4-methylamphetamine, i could see some infos about this alert but never nothing solid. Erowid does not speak about this stuff, and in Bluelight i could only find some references to your alert but nothing else. I'm not a chemist but i'm not even sure this could be stable alone. Sometimes information from traditional channels is a little bit biased. Wikipedia has a few lines, ending by "In animal studies, 4-MA was shown to have the lowest rate of self-administration out of a range of similar drugs tested", which might be a good news, once again with a good education and without prohibition. And such a little portion should not lead to overdoses (which is NOT a reason for calling amphetamine something which is not). Thanks a lot Takatak for pointing this out !!!
Sometimes you can see Belga alerting about a molecule that does not even exist, and the whole European press publishing the news with the same error, without checking anything.
Finally, if you think of it, the true responsible is the war on drugs and the fact that well-known products are forbidden and therefore replaced by RC substitutes, more easy and less dangerous to acquire and detain for a dealer. Prohibition will never do anything positive. Drugs are not harmful "per se" and what everybody needs about them is a good education, which, once again, cannot be achieved in a climate of prohibition.
That being said, i recently could put my hands on some of iis and cc stuff, and for sure, you are right, it was damn good stuff !
But they are rather expensive, and i cannot afford it every time. What i mean is that OK, if somebody is searching for top-notch amphetamine salt, he should go to Boymaster, Capecrusader or iisthisisi (full name will help the ones who searches for them), but an analysis of other stuff would be of great help. All vendors except the top 3 should not be blamed because one of them is a scammer. Because once again, Interways is a scammer, read this post !
Meyer Lansky and Fastways list stuff at a very affordable price. I know i am not the only one interested into ordering from them. Good evaluation, good reports, clients seem happy, but no analysis and no chromatography. Isn't it sad ? Even subjective reports would help, as long as information such as "weight left after full drying". (i know that bm, cc and iis stuff are dry, no need to insist ;D)
I'm ordering from Meyer Lansky now, i will give a feedback when tested, but it will be subjective however.
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It is EXACTLY the same Compound which can be find in the Pep from Pfandleiher Reloaded. REALLY REALLY nasty stuff! But always ppl saying that its good when it has this compound in. Maybe this is because it has a euphoric effect on the users (4-MA), dunno...
I don´t like / I don´t want it!
-Acen
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Been away for a bit...so may have been discussed.
Have tried and liked iisthisisi dllamp. He now has Amp tri-basic phosphate salt. What's the difference,is it good, does it tweak !!...anyone sampled?
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ok. just caught up...lazy f####r. Should have read the forum. But..does it tweak!
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What happened to CC ? I was about to order in the next days when i get the BTC but now he has no listings again. and can someone tell me what the price was for his 5g listing ?
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What happened to CC ? I was about to order in the next days when i get the BTC but now he has no listings again. and can someone tell me what the price was for his 5g listing ?
I was lucky enough to get mine in when they were up.
It was $99.63 USD. - He usually takes down his listings if he's gotten deluged with orders. This way he can be sure he'll be able to fulfill the orders. He also checks in here every few days. Hope he gets them back up for you.
Peace 8)
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anyone else experienced mail problem whit CapeCrusader? I have waited 20days for now and letter has not arrived jet :/. the more stranger thing is I also ordered some pot from TheDaggaCouple who ships in the same place where CapeCrusader ships(South Africa) both of them are in resolution center now, I extended it 15 days.
I really hope they will arrive, because if not then my stats will be ruined =(..
I have had some to US in less than two weeks and one showed up post marked over a month. I had already received a reship and had to (happily) send CC more coin.
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anyone else experienced mail problem whit CapeCrusader? I have waited 20days for now and letter has not arrived jet :/. the more stranger thing is I also ordered some pot from TheDaggaCouple who ships in the same place where CapeCrusader ships(South Africa) both of them are in resolution center now, I extended it 15 days.
I really hope they will arrive, because if not then my stats will be ruined =(..
I have had some to US in less than two weeks and one showed up post marked over a month. I had already received a reship and had to (happily) send CC more coin.
I'll second that as caffeine_me and I go way back. If you'd read Cape's profile page he talks about the difficulty with the postal service in SA. This has been an on again/off again problem over there.
Post-apartheid SA is still a very young democracy, and they're experiencing the same growing pains, as our (US) and others have felt since the internet took much of the postal business away. They just have to get creative and keep the competitive edge up. That country is very pro-democracy and capitalism is still thought to be the way to go. (must be nice!) You also have the Postal Union, facing cutbacks, so they strike, etc.
Whatever it is, it will work itself out. - Cape's the man.
@masin- you did the right thing by extending it 15 days in resolution. I'm sure CC's seen that, though it wouldn't hurt to touch base with him. He's probably THE most conscientious vendor there ever was on this site, and see's every transaction through till it's end, and always settles disputes with fair resolution.
Our friend Knomo back in the spring had one go missing from CC, and CC had done a reship after they waited a long time, I forget, but like a month and a half, (forget the exact amt of time), Knomo comes on here saying the original package came.
You're in good hands. + This thread has the best people of any on the site. - We'll get through it together!
Peace 8)
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nice to hear that, lets hope everything turns out fine then =)
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Hello to all Amphetamine enthusiasts :),
Just thought that some of you might be interested to see some drug interceptions done by Israeli customs and shown on a TV Talk Show :
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=210719
Something looks familiar?
Peace,
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So Ive been on a micro-binge the last 5-6 days with some of CC's delicious AMP and really for the first time in my amp career I must have built a stupid strong tolerance from just a few G's over the past few months...
Day I got the package did 10mg and was flying high for 5-6 hours. Every day since ive prob increased 10mg per day only doing like 50-70mg a day spaced out.. All while eating well and sleeping plenty, but today I cant even stay awake ive prob done 100mg already and more I take does nothing... I cant even get my BP to elevate to a high level, but I dont want to overdue it by bombing 50mg at once... So I guess this is when you know its time to stop for a long break right?
For those who are pretty regular amp heads, how much do you normally need to do (pure AMP) in a single dose to get lifted? how much will you do in a day?
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For those who are pretty regular amp heads, how much do you normally need to do (pure AMP) in a single dose to get lifted? how much will you do in a day?
I'm not sure if you're asking for responses from somebody like me or not? I mean I don't take breaks... like, at all. I haven't gone more than 24 hours without an amphetamine of some kind for months. I can easily take several grams in a day if I let myself. My idea of a "day" can vary though (I don't sleep predictably -- gosh, I wonder why, hah). Individual doses are something like 200mg to 750mg. Depends on how crazy I feel like getting, honestly.
I think I'm extremely unusual though. I've also got a tolerance that's been building from regular use over many years; take the information for what it's worth I guess.
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So Ive been on a micro-binge the last 5-6 days with some of CC's delicious AMP and really for the first time in my amp career I must have built a stupid strong tolerance from just a few G's over the past few months...
Day I got the package did 10mg and was flying high for 5-6 hours. Every day since ive prob increased 10mg per day only doing like 50-70mg a day spaced out.. All while eating well and sleeping plenty, but today I cant even stay awake ive prob done 100mg already and more I take does nothing... I cant even get my BP to elevate to a high level, but I dont want to overdue it by bombing 50mg at once... So I guess this is when you know its time to stop for a long break right?
For those who are pretty regular amp heads, how much do you normally need to do (pure AMP) in a single dose to get lifted? how much will you do in a day?
Sounds like you need a break. Such heavy tolerance and heavy dosing can be really unhealthy and dangerous. Re-think what you are doing.
Magnesium supplements at night (quite safe, chelated is the best form, magnesium oxide is not absorbed well and mostly just laxative) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NMDA_receptor_antagonist like DXM or Ketamine can be used to reverse tolerance. NMDA antagonists can be really dangerous in combination with stims, so make sure to do your homework in dangers and take a break off stims if you decide trying.
Take care & stay safe
Edit:
About dosing I recommend having a look at how medicinal users use their amp ( like adderall or dexedrine) with dosing schedules and carefully weigh your doses into capsules.
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For those who are pretty regular amp heads, how much do you normally need to do (pure AMP) in a single dose to get lifted? how much will you do in a day?
I'm not sure if you're asking for responses from somebody like me or not? I mean I don't take breaks... like, at all. I haven't gone more than 24 hours without an amphetamine of some kind for months. I can easily take several grams in a day if I let myself. My idea of a "day" can vary though (I don't sleep predictably -- gosh, I wonder why, hah). Individual doses are something like 200mg to 750mg. Depends on how crazy I feel like getting, honestly.
I think I'm extremely unusual though. I've also got a tolerance that's been building from regular use over many years; take the information for what it's worth I guess.
I'd have to side mostly with SS on this one. Been taking amp almost daily for about nine months. Never cared to measure, but if I had to guess probably in the neighborhood of 200 mg daily. 25-50 mg in the morning used to be plenty intranasally, but now I find myself redosing through out the day to maintain energy levels as well as the occasional bump or so at night to be social. This has, however, created somewhat of a benzodiazipine dependency, as I estimate I take about 1-2 mg xanax, and either 10 mg valium or 2 mg klonopin (kpins really are fantastic in my experience). When I stop for a day, I start to get really cranky then incredibly lethargic. Like draped over my bed lethargic. I also have a steady diet, and have had such for many years, to include a daily multivitamin, omegas, b complex, magnesium, and COQ-10. I'm sure the path i'm on isn't necessarily the best, but what's one to do? If it's there, I'm going to take it. Speaking of which....i need to finish changing my brake pads, lol.
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Does modafinil negatively effect amp?
How long should I be off it for to get the full amp high?
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anyone know when CC is getting a new batch ?
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For those who are pretty regular amp heads, how much do you normally need to do (pure AMP) in a single dose to get lifted? how much will you do in a day?
If I take amph every day for about a month, then at the end of the month I usually need 100-150mg twice daily to get the desired effects. I mostly use it for studying, so a recreational dose would of course have to be higher.
After a couple of weeks my tolerance will have gone down enough for me to get a very pleasant buzz (no studying!) from 50mg insufflated.
Hope that helped!
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For those who are pretty regular amp heads, how much do you normally need to do (pure AMP) in a single dose to get lifted? how much will you do in a day?
I'm not sure if you're asking for responses from somebody like me or not? I mean I don't take breaks... like, at all. I haven't gone more than 24 hours without an amphetamine of some kind for months. I can easily take several grams in a day if I let myself. My idea of a "day" can vary though (I don't sleep predictably -- gosh, I wonder why, hah). Individual doses are something like 200mg to 750mg. Depends on how crazy I feel like getting, honestly.
I think I'm extremely unusual though. I've also got a tolerance that's been building from regular use over many years; take the information for what it's worth I guess.
you should post more often, I thought I was the only one. I've never gone above 250 in a dose mostly due to cost. I only started using in January this year with maybe 35-40 days break dotted around that period. A recent 3 week break didn't effect tolerance very much. The idea of a 500mg dose makes me kinda excited, almost wet
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For those who are pretty regular amp heads, how much do you normally need to do (pure AMP) in a single dose to get lifted? how much will you do in a day?
I'm not sure if you're asking for responses from somebody like me or not? I mean I don't take breaks... like, at all. I haven't gone more than 24 hours without an amphetamine of some kind for months. I can easily take several grams in a day if I let myself. My idea of a "day" can vary though (I don't sleep predictably -- gosh, I wonder why, hah). Individual doses are something like 200mg to 750mg. Depends on how crazy I feel like getting, honestly.
I think I'm extremely unusual though. I've also got a tolerance that's been building from regular use over many years; take the information for what it's worth I guess.
Hey, you aren't worried about your heart exploding or something?
My dosages aren't quite at your level, but I've been almost non-stop for months and just assume the body can't take that much constant abuse (can it?).
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For those who are pretty regular amp heads, how much do you normally need to do (pure AMP) in a single dose to get lifted? how much will you do in a day?
I'm not sure if you're asking for responses from somebody like me or not? I mean I don't take breaks... like, at all. I haven't gone more than 24 hours without an amphetamine of some kind for months. I can easily take several grams in a day if I let myself. My idea of a "day" can vary though (I don't sleep predictably -- gosh, I wonder why, hah). Individual doses are something like 200mg to 750mg. Depends on how crazy I feel like getting, honestly.
I think I'm extremely unusual though. I've also got a tolerance that's been building from regular use over many years; take the information for what it's worth I guess.
Hey, you aren't worried about your heart exploding or something?
My dosages aren't quite at your level, but I've been almost non-stop for months and just assume the body can't take that much constant abuse (can it?).
Taking it everyday without interruption causes one to develop a tolerance, as the body produces more and more dopamine+norepinephrine receptors in reaction to the increased presence of dopamine/epinephrine transmitters triggered by the Amph/Meth. As this cycle continues, the result is an increase in tolerance to the drug, and more and more is needed to get the same effect. So say 50mg used to be plenty strong enough for you, as to cause mild tachycardia, you could end up where 500mg is needed for that same effect.
When I first started taking Adderall, 10mg had me zooming the first few days. Total euphoric bliss. By the end of the month I was up to 30mg 2X a day. - Then I found the Silk Road. And, well, you can figure out the rest.
~CHIP~
PS - I'm in crash mode again. I want to redose so bad, but know it's a waste, so I'm going to see if maybe laying down on the bed works.
What a genius idea!
"Goodnight Ladies and Germs" - Groucho Marx
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For those who are pretty regular amp heads, how much do you normally need to do (pure AMP) in a single dose to get lifted? how much will you do in a day?
I'm not sure if you're asking for responses from somebody like me or not? I mean I don't take breaks... like, at all. I haven't gone more than 24 hours without an amphetamine of some kind for months. I can easily take several grams in a day if I let myself. My idea of a "day" can vary though (I don't sleep predictably -- gosh, I wonder why, hah). Individual doses are something like 200mg to 750mg. Depends on how crazy I feel like getting, honestly.
I think I'm extremely unusual though. I've also got a tolerance that's been building from regular use over many years; take the information for what it's worth I guess.
Hey, you aren't worried about your heart exploding or something?
My dosages aren't quite at your level, but I've been almost non-stop for months and just assume the body can't take that much constant abuse (can it?).
Taking it everyday without interruption causes one to develop a tolerance, as the body produces more and more dopamine+norepinephrine receptors in reaction to the increased presence of dopamine/epinephrine transmitters triggered by the Amph/Meth. As this cycle continues, the result is an increase in tolerance to the drug, and more and more is needed to get the same effect. So say 50mg used to be plenty strong enough for you, as to cause mild tachycardia, you could end up where 500mg is needed for that same effect.
When I first started taking Adderall, 10mg had me zooming the first few days. Total euphoric bliss. By the end of the month I was up to 30mg 2X a day. - Then I found the Silk Road. And, well, you can figure out the rest.
~CHIP~
PS - I'm in crash mode again. I want to redose so bad, but know it's a waste, so I'm going to see if maybe laying down on the bed works.
What a genius idea!
"Goodnight Ladies and Germs" - Groucho Marx
I understand all that. I mean his using it so much that his tolerance got that high.
I get that people's body chemistries are different, but I feel worn out and I'm not even close to that level ???
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I think the really important factor in whether constant use is gonna burn you out or not is sleep. I went for about a year taking speed most days .. probably 5/6 days a week average. For the first 9 months or so I handled it well, still exercised, ate healthily, etc... no-one would have known I was on speed all the time.
But then I started to miss the odd nigt's sleep.... whereas before I would have a 5pm cut-off for using (like most people do with tea/coffee:-/ ), and get at least 4-5 hours of sleep a night, the last few months of my habit I started taking some after dinner, staying up till 4/5am, sometimes missing a night's sleep... Then I went rapidly downhill, health deteriorated, started getting edgy and paranoid, people started to notice....
Stopped a while ago, and feel fine now, although one thing I notice is that I've been sleeping for like 11 hours a night. It's totally true about a "sleep-debt", and if you're on speed for a year, probably getting at least 2 hours less sleep than you need every night... well then it takes a long time to catch up!
So my advice is, if you're gonna use speed daily, at least do it sensibly. Make sure you keep sleeping and eating, and you shouldn't fine that your tolerance will increase massively (I was probably taking about 5-600mg a day), or your health will deteriorate much.
Really though, you should ask yourself "why am I doing this?". Not easy to answer, I know, but quite often the reason/excuse (in my case it was writing a PhD thesis) does not really make sense... After a few weeks of daily use, the sleep deprivation starts to outdue the performance-boost of the drug, so you end up getting far less done than if you were just sober.
Just my 2 cents. Apart from the sleeping thing, my main advice would be "DON'T START TAKING METH!". That stuff is insidious: ridiculously powerful .... With speed you can't stay up for more than 2 days without starting to feel pretty shitty, but with meth.. you can be up for 4 days and just feel completely straight (as long as you keep taking meth). And at the same time it is actually more subtle than speed: far less obvious that you're on it, less tics and general wired-ness. Speed is positively benign compared to that stuff.
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PS - just clarify, the 500mg I mention was of typical decent Dutch speed... usually from Ansterdope, probably about 40% percent purity.
Also I forgot I say about the benzos thing: gotta watch out for them too... if you're on stims every day you can find yourself popping them like candy, and a benzo addiction is no joke.
Modafinil is great if you you feel like you need a break from speed. Still just delaying the inevitable sleep binge, but can make you feel relatively normal when you would be totally fatigued and uninspired.
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People, I'm no doctor but stimulants used every day make the heart to work faster and steadier (other than creating tolerance and such). Heart is a muscle and doing this, it develops and grows more than it needs (and can bring to a stroke). This is not good for healt, even if you don't get a stroke soon you multiply your risk of heart failure and a lot of related issues.
Let's try not to binge too much and too regularly on speed (say this while I'm the first one doing it).
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what about low dose usage 5-10mg everyday for studying ? still bad ? and maybe more at weekend for fun.
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People, I'm no doctor but stimulants used every day make the heart to work faster and steadier (other than creating tolerance and such). Heart is a muscle and doing this, it develops and grows more than it needs (and can bring to a stroke). This is not good for healt, even if you don't get a stroke soon you multiply your risk of heart failure and a lot of related issues.
Let's try not to binge too much and too regularly on speed (say this while I'm the first one doing it).
It sound quite reasonable that stimulants causes unnecessary stress to the heart, but please be more specific and provide sources for your claims.
Does stimulants as metylphenidate(ritalin) or adderall in adhd-treatment dosage really cause the heart to grow like in AHS ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletic_heart_syndrome ) ? Or does it occur if you exceed normal recommended doses or only if you mega dose?
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I started a separate thread but maybe I should have come here first. I recently came in to possession of 40.2 grams of amphetamine sulfate. I dried it out to make it easier to handle for myself.
I dried it by placing it into the light on a glassware baking dish and s[preading it out. After a few hours, I came in and kinda tossed it around and left it alone for awhile.
Imagine my surprise when I scraped it all up and through it on the scale to see 19.4.
This "paste" did not seem excessively wet to me. It came exactly as I would picture something called paste coming. As I have no expierence with this stuff I was hoping to get feedback from you.
50%? I was expecting 20%. Was I wrong?
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I started a separate thread but maybe I should have come here first. I recently came in to possession of 40.2 grams of amphetamine sulfate. I dried it out to make it easier to handle for myself.
I dried it by placing it into the light on a glassware baking dish and s[preading it out. After a few hours, I came in and kinda tossed it around and left it alone for awhile.
Imagine my surprise when I scraped it all up and through it on the scale to see 19.4.
This "paste" did not seem excessively wet to me. It came exactly as I would picture something called paste coming. As I have no expierence with this stuff I was hoping to get feedback from you.
50%? I was expecting 20%. Was I wrong?
In my experience paste is very often a total rip-off! I had never tried pure amphetamine before coming to the road, but after trying BM and CC, I am never going back! Now i really know how nasty speed paste is compared to real amphetamine!
My best advice is to get the real stuff instead. With the amount you mention I realize that you are probably looking to resell, but I suggest that you look in to some of the discussions about nasty things people find in some of the paste here (4-MA, and other nasty chems).
To answer your question; I have seen quite a few people mention weight loss of 30-60%, so I don't think it is uncommon, even though it is an obvious scam!
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I started a separate thread but maybe I should have come here first. I recently came in to possession of 40.2 grams of amphetamine sulfate. I dried it out to make it easier to handle for myself.
I dried it by placing it into the light on a glassware baking dish and s[preading it out. After a few hours, I came in and kinda tossed it around and left it alone for awhile.
Imagine my surprise when I scraped it all up and through it on the scale to see 19.4.
This "paste" did not seem excessively wet to me. It came exactly as I would picture something called paste coming. As I have no expierence with this stuff I was hoping to get feedback from you.
50%? I was expecting 20%. Was I wrong?
50% seems right if you dry it complete.
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Thank you both. Next time, it will be from the holy trinity. The product is pretty good based on dosage I took and what I felt. Can't believe you guys snort this though. OMFG the smell.
I took a 40 mg bomb and was bouncing of the walls. Had a stronger sense of "euphoria" than I expected. 6 hour duration I would say with no "comedown" to speak of. No urge to re-dose either.
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Everybody already knows, but CC's shit is awesome.
I used to order from BM, but now that he's out of the game for some while, i gave CC a shot.
And that was not a mistake. I tried it at a birthday party after drinking some beers and wine.
When i left the party later that night, i had literally talked to everybody. I was everybody's best friend ;D
I had a great night, and i only did 4 small/medium lines. Great stuff.
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took around 80mg (few redosings) of iisthisisi d/l-amph to test quality. Im pretty sure i have tolerance build.
didnt slept for over 24hours but thats ok was more or less planed gonna sleep this night if i cant i take a benzo. thats a super strong amph.
trying to get some of CCs when he has new batch next time.
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People, I'm no doctor but stimulants used every day make the heart to work faster and steadier (other than creating tolerance and such). Heart is a muscle and doing this, it develops and grows more than it needs (and can bring to a stroke). This is not good for healt, even if you don't get a stroke soon you multiply your risk of heart failure and a lot of related issues.
Let's try not to binge too much and too regularly on speed (say this while I'm the first one doing it).
It sound quite reasonable that stimulants causes unnecessary stress to the heart, but please be more specific and provide sources for your claims.
Does stimulants as metylphenidate(ritalin) or adderall in adhd-treatment dosage really cause the heart to grow like in AHS ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletic_heart_syndrome ) ? Or does it occur if you exceed normal recommended doses or only if you mega dose?
what about low dose usage 5-10mg everyday for studying ? still bad ? and maybe more at weekend for fun.
I'm not a physician but I think that even if I was, I couldn't know the answer. Moderation is the key. The problem is that if you are bound to get consequences (other than sudden heart failure), you discover it only after years of use.
You can search yourself cocaine/amphetamine/stimultants+thickening of hearth walls.
I don't want to frighten anyone. Just share the little I know. I lost a dear friend on this.
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I have been to a test-center with some tri-basicphosphate salt from iisthisisi.
Next week probably Tuesday I will post the results here on the forum if I get the results.
Due an overflow of samples and in the same time lowering of their budget they can only test 50% of the samples.
So we will see next week.
Speedie
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Hey guys, just seen CC's Listings are down. Heard that BM will be back in October. Now I ordered a gram from Iisthisisi which i want to put in capsules. Besides that i ordered some paste from HollandOnline and AmsterdamDrugs. Will let you know about the quality when i get my hands on it.
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anyone tried Haizenberg speed here? search got me no results :\
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I sent a message to CC, he said his listings will be back up from the beginning of next week.
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how long can you storage Amphetamine?
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how long can you storage Amphetamine?
Pretty much as long as you want, if you do it right.
It should be stored in a place where it is 1: Dry, 2: Dark, 3: Not to hot, 4: Preferably In an airtight container.
Most people just keep it in the freezer though, which is also quite fine.
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Hi speedheadz,
i see the thread is pretty active lately.
I'm in hell stress with work, so just a short stop-by for my preview feedback of iisthisisi
(average tolerance)
- tryout of 5mg around 16:00, pretty impressed this stuff is already active in such low dosage. clear mind an motivation, very low physical rush/bodyload. I was able to sleep at 1:00
- 10mg today, same effect, it least really long and with a constant effect
snorting this tri-phosphate, my nose reported is not very happy (normally I don't have problems snorting), I think I will just take it orally in the future. I'll try on weekend a 15-20mg capsule.
Compared to BM (pink batch) I find it more pleasant, because BM give me a harder comedown (physically), heartbeats rate is normally pretty high even when effect fades off completely.
Normally I use amphetamines more for party/dancing. CC is still my favourite because the physical rush is really more intense, also the comedown is pretty smooth.
IS tri-stuff (like the normal amphetamine) is more suitable for working or other activities (probably due the fact the racemic ammph % is less than CC?)
I wonder if somebody can give me a feedback using IS tri-phosphate for party activities or intensive physical tasks, since I've no party planned I'd like to know if I should restock CC as well for party purposes.
Anyway A+ as usual with iisthisisi. Stuff quality, stealth and fast shipping.
Greetz
@fakename709: thanks for the info about CC listings
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How many of you guys use memantine for tolerence? I would love to give it a shot if anyone kind enough to share an online source. ;) Use pm's if needed.
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How are people in the US receiving iisthisi's product? Successfully? I have had nothing but bad experiences in the past from the Netherlands and am hesitant to order ever since he removed his Germany shipping ability. The NL seems to have really good (or bad for us) outgoing customs...
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how long can you storage Amphetamine?
Pretty much as long as you want, if you do it right.
It should be stored in a place where it is 1: Dry, 2: Dark, 3: Not to hot, 4: Preferably In an airtight container.
Most people just keep it in the freezer though, which is also quite fine.
Can i just wrap the drugs in alu foil and keep them in my closet ? i cant put them in the fridge.
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IS tri-stuff (like the normal amphetamine) is more suitable for working or other activities (probably due the fact the racemic ammph % is less than CC?)
On that topic: Does anyone know the d- to l-amphetamine ratio of both iisthisisi's amphetamine variants?
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Hey there guys,
i have an interesting product with great prices.
Awesome speed paste of the highest quality around at great great prices.
top notch quality classic dutch speed paste.
72% +
as it comes from the cook thats how you get it , Fresh and amazing.
Guaranteed to have 0 Cuts - 100%.
Cheers guys ;)
2G at 25$
25g at 170$
Heres my listing :
25G
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0a45a6c9ac
2G
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/37ce9b1a9c
Also i have an event going on for older forum members , if u are willing to write an honest review about the product u may get 1G for free.
Check it out
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b5c523e56
All the best and a great weekend :)
Any questions , u r welcome to ask me!
Cheers ;)
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Hey there guys,
i have an interesting product with great prices.
Awesome speed paste of the highest quality around at great great prices.
top notch quality classic dutch speed paste.
72% +
as it comes from the cook thats how you get it , Fresh and amazing.
Guaranteed to have 0 Cuts - 100%.
Cheers guys ;)
2G at 25$
25g at 170$
Heres my listing :
25G
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0a45a6c9ac
2G
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/37ce9b1a9c
Also i have an event going on for older forum members , if u are willing to write an honest review about the product u may get 1G for free.
Check it out
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b5c523e56
All the best and a great weekend :)
Any questions , u r welcome to ask me!
Cheers ;)
I'm on it mate!
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Review Speed Paste - AmsterdamDrugs
Stealth 5/5
Communication 5/5
Product 5/5
Got my order in 48h shipped within EU. Vendor informed me about every step of the transaction. The paste was carefully packed, double vac-sealed. Was willing to FE and got some extra. All went really smooth. The paste is orange as shown on the product photo. It's pretty wet though - well of course it's a paste ;) Anyway i put about a 15mg bit and put it in a smoking paper and well down it went. The high came really smooth, clean nice euphoric rush. Definitely not cut with caffeine as there was no jitteryness. Have to say I have a low tolerance so the amount it needs is subjective. The comedown was easy. Highly recommended.
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Hey there guys,
i have an interesting product with great prices.
Awesome speed paste of the highest quality around at great great prices.
top notch quality classic dutch speed paste.
72% +
as it comes from the cook thats how you get it , Fresh and amazing.
Guaranteed to have 0 Cuts - 100%.
Cheers guys ;)
2G at 25$
25g at 170$
Heres my listing :
25G
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0a45a6c9ac
2G
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/37ce9b1a9c
Also i have an event going on for older forum members , if u are willing to write an honest review about the product u may get 1G for free.
Check it out
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b5c523e56
All the best and a great weekend :)
Any questions , u r welcome to ask me!
Cheers ;)
I've sent you a PM on the main site. :)
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Thanks.
If iisthisisi would offer some d-amphetamine I'd be happily to pay twice the price.. oh well, one can only dream ;)
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Anyone willing to try a new vendor?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/ef20839661
With the big guns kinda out of action this could be an option.. Although the photo of the gear looks similar to what I got from Richthofen earlier in the year which was quite good quality but the packaging needed work.
If it is the same vendor hopefully the packaging has been upgraded because I certainly wouldn't be saying no to that speed at the moment.
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With the big guns kinda out of action this could be an option..
Next week-->new CC batch
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Don't forget when you order from Haizen you have a 50% chance of actually getting your order! But don't worry he offers reships that also don't show. Maybe EU orders are fine but if you're in the US I'd steer clear.
To stay on topic I got my CC order. Thinking of starting off small..5-10mg just to see what it's like. First time speed user :o
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Don't forget when you order from Haizen you have a 50% chance of actually getting your order! But don't worry he offers reships that also don't show. Maybe EU orders are fine but if you're in the US I'd steer clear.
To stay on topic I got my CC order. Thinking of starting off small..5-10mg just to see what it's like. First time speed user :o
How long did it take? Mine shipped last Monday. I'm expecting it some day this week. The last couple times I've ordered from CC they've come within 8-10 days.
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18-19 days.
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18-19 days.
Oh damn, I hope it doesn't take that long for me :(
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be careful with the strong stuff! tolerance is through the roof, ended up eating 5g of iiisthisis stuff in a week. face is totally fucked as a result and made worse by scratching it in my sleep. hate to think what's it done to my insides
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Don't forget when you order from Haizen you have a 50% chance of actually getting your order! But don't worry he offers reships that also don't show. Maybe EU orders are fine but if you're in the US I'd steer clear.
To stay on topic I got my CC order. Thinking of starting off small..5-10mg just to see what it's like. First time speed user :o
If you've never used speed before, I'd recommend 20mg - 50mg, depending on your size and if you've used other stimulants previously.
5-10 is probably too low to really feel it properly, even with the pure stuff From CC.
Just my recommendation anyway. I've been using speed at least once or twice a month for years.
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18-19 days.
Oh damn, I hope it doesn't take that long for me :(
Same here k4rts, Monday mine was marked in transit. That would suck if it were over 2 weeks. Before June, I must've gotten about 10 orders from him, the longest was 10 days, the shortest was 5. Northeast US too!.
I know they were recovering from a postal strike there a few weeks back, let's hope that's gotten better.
Hey laser12, are you counting from day ordered or day put "in transit"? Mine took a while to ship, I got in in there at 8:30a Fri Capetown time, but it had to wait to Monday. Oh well, we know he's gotten swamped every time he puts his listings up. That's why they come down a few days later. At least he knows his limits. Plenty other vendors wait until they're truly overwhelmed, then have to start apologizing.
So we will wait patiently for that lovely SA Speed! We have no choice!- ;D Unless you want to be impatient, and that's just no fun.
So in the mean time I'm picking through shards. Can't wait to get back to good old amph!
Hope yours and mine get here Monday! I'll be on here whenever it does with a review, as it's been the whole summer that I haven't been doing Amph.
Good Luck!
~CHIP~
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Thanks.
If iisthisisi would offer some d-amphetamine I'd be happily to pay twice the price.. oh well, one can only dream ;)
he actually did, was his first sample iirc :-) BTW is helhaz still around?
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I have been to a test-center with some tri-basicphosphate salt from iisthisisi.
Next week probably Tuesday I will post the results here on the forum if I get the results.
Due an overflow of samples and in the same time lowering of their budget they can only test 50% of the samples.
So we will see next week.
Speedie
very nice! Really looking forward to the results. iirc the phosphate salt binds less amphetamine freebase than the sulphate so the maximum isn't 73%. but due to the phosphates properties more amph/faster/can't remember exactly is taken up by the body.
oh and I agree: snorting can be a little rough, but honestly there has been much worse (shitty speed).
anyone considered trying LGcutivo? my spidey senses are tingling, could be good.
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18-19 days.
Oh damn, I hope it doesn't take that long for me :(
Same here k4rts, Monday mine was marked in transit. That would suck if it were over 2 weeks. Before June, I must've gotten about 10 orders from him, the longest was 10 days, the shortest was 5. Northeast US too!.
I know they were recovering from a postal strike there a few weeks back, let's hope that's gotten better.
Hey laser12, are you counting from day ordered or day put "in transit"? Mine took a while to ship, I got in in there at 8:30a Fri Capetown time, but it had to wait to Monday. Oh well, we know he's gotten swamped every time he puts his listings up. That's why they come down a few days later. At least he knows his limits. Plenty other vendors wait until they're truly overwhelmed, then have to start apologizing.
So we will wait patiently for that lovely SA Speed! We have no choice!- ;D Unless you want to be impatient, and that's just no fun.
So in the mean time I'm picking through shards. Can't wait to get back to good old amph!
Hope yours and mine get here Monday! I'll be on here whenever it does with a review, as it's been the whole summer that I haven't been doing Amph.
Good Luck!
~CHIP~
I'm actually in the Northeast too. I ordered mine Thursday, Sept. 5th, and it shipped on the 9th. I have a long work week, and I'm really hoping it comes soon!
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Hey there guys,
i have an interesting product with great prices.
Awesome speed paste of the highest quality around at great great prices.
top notch quality classic dutch speed paste.
72% +
as it comes from the cook thats how you get it , Fresh and amazing.
Guaranteed to have 0 Cuts - 100%.
Cheers guys ;)
2G at 25$
25g at 170$
Heres my listing :
25G
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0a45a6c9ac
2G
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/37ce9b1a9c
Also i have an event going on for older forum members , if u are willing to write an honest review about the product u may get 1G for free.
Check it out
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b5c523e56
All the best and a great weekend :)
Any questions , u r welcome to ask me!
Cheers ;)
I've sent you a PM on the main site. :)
Thanks for the orders guys , Replied ;)
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Don't forget when you order from Haizen you have a 50% chance of actually getting your order! But don't worry he offers reships that also don't show. Maybe EU orders are fine but if you're in the US I'd steer clear.
To stay on topic I got my CC order. Thinking of starting off small..5-10mg just to see what it's like. First time speed user :o
I can't believe Haizenberg himself, posts on the same page as what you put up here, and doesn't even address it! - LoL! - You think he even bother's reading these, or feels if he ignores you, you'll go away?
18-19 days.
Oh damn, I hope it doesn't take that long for me :(
Same here k4rts, Monday mine was marked in transit. That would suck if it were over 2 weeks. Before June, I must've gotten about 10 orders from him, the longest was 10 days, the shortest was 5. Northeast US too!.
I know they were recovering from a postal strike there a few weeks back, let's hope that's gotten better.
Hey laser12, are you counting from day ordered or day put "in transit"? Mine took a while to ship, I got in in there at 8:30a Fri Capetown time, but it had to wait to Monday. Oh well, we know he's gotten swamped every time he puts his listings up. That's why they come down a few days later. At least he knows his limits. Plenty other vendors wait until they're truly overwhelmed, then have to start apologizing.
So we will wait patiently for that lovely SA Speed! We have no choice!- ;D Unless you want to be impatient, and that's just no fun.
So in the mean time I'm picking through shards. Can't wait to get back to good old amph!
Hope yours and mine get here Monday! I'll be on here whenever it does with a review, as it's been the whole summer that I haven't been doing Amph.
Good Luck!
~CHIP~
I'm actually in the Northeast too. I ordered mine Thursday, Sept. 5th, and it shipped on the 9th. I have a long work week, and I'm really hoping it comes soon!
Yeah, well we'll keep in touch laser12, send me a pm if you get yours, or just post here. I never go on forums without hitting this thread. I'll do the same if I get mine. I'll post+PM you.
Got another one coming from Max, just marked in transit. His is the only 'paste' type speed I'll still buy, bc usually it's pretty damn good, and his latest has claims of very high purity. I see complaints about "that smell" and "loses weight after drying". - Looks like he compensated the weight one, but I mean really. That's what paste is! Wet and smelly! You dry it, and guess what? It weighs less than before! - Welcome to Amphetamine newbie~! :o
I'll keep you guys posted.
~Chip~
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Don't forget when you order from Haizen you have a 50% chance of actually getting your order! But don't worry he offers reships that also don't show. Maybe EU orders are fine but if you're in the US I'd steer clear.
To stay on topic I got my CC order. Thinking of starting off small..5-10mg just to see what it's like. First time speed user :o
I can't believe Haizenberg himself, posts on the same page as what you put up here, and doesn't even address it! - LoL! - You think he even bother's reading these, or feels if he ignores you, you'll go away?
18-19 days.
Oh damn, I hope it doesn't take that long for me :(
Same here k4rts, Monday mine was marked in transit. That would suck if it were over 2 weeks. Before June, I must've gotten about 10 orders from him, the longest was 10 days, the shortest was 5. Northeast US too!.
I know they were recovering from a postal strike there a few weeks back, let's hope that's gotten better.
Hey laser12, are you counting from day ordered or day put "in transit"? Mine took a while to ship, I got in in there at 8:30a Fri Capetown time, but it had to wait to Monday. Oh well, we know he's gotten swamped every time he puts his listings up. That's why they come down a few days later. At least he knows his limits. Plenty other vendors wait until they're truly overwhelmed, then have to start apologizing.
So we will wait patiently for that lovely SA Speed! We have no choice!- ;D Unless you want to be impatient, and that's just no fun.
So in the mean time I'm picking through shards. Can't wait to get back to good old amph!
Hope yours and mine get here Monday! I'll be on here whenever it does with a review, as it's been the whole summer that I haven't been doing Amph.
Good Luck!
~CHIP~
I'm actually in the Northeast too. I ordered mine Thursday, Sept. 5th, and it shipped on the 9th. I have a long work week, and I'm really hoping it comes soon!
Yeah, well we'll keep in touch laser12, send me a pm if you get yours, or just post here. I never go on forums without hitting this thread. I'll do the same if I get mine. I'll post+PM you.
Got another one coming from Max, just marked in transit. His is the only 'paste' type speed I'll still buy, bc usually it's pretty damn good, and his latest has claims of very high purity. I see complaints about "that smell" and "loses weight after drying". - Looks like he compensated the weight one, but I mean really. That's what paste is! Wet and smelly! You dry it, and guess what? It weighs less than before! - Welcome to Amphetamine newbie~! :o
I'll keep you guys posted.
~Chip~
Ok sounds good, I'll let you know when mine arrives as well.
I've ordered from CC three times now, and I certainly prefer dry to paste, but I have tried paste from JunkieXXL, and it was actually relatively dry when it arrived, and was just about equally as potent as CC's, though I definitely ended up with ~500mg after it fully dried from a 1g order. I think somehow it partially dried in the vac sealed bag.
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I have been to a test-center with some tri-basicphosphate salt from iisthisisi.
Next week probably Tuesday I will post the results here on the forum if I get the results.
Due an overflow of samples and in the same time lowering of their budget they can only test 50% of the samples.
So we will see next week.
Speedie
very nice! Really looking forward to the results. iirc the phosphate salt binds less amphetamine freebase than the sulphate so the maximum isn't 73%. but due to the phosphates properties more amph/faster/can't remember exactly is taken up by the body.
oh and I agree: snorting can be a little rough, but honestly there has been much worse (shitty speed).
anyone considered trying LGcutivo? my spidey senses are tingling, could be good.
Planning on ordering from LG in the next couple of days..
Like I stated earlier the picture of the product looks like what I received from Richthofen earlier in the year plus they both send from Spain. It's good quality (not paste and bone dry) but not as good as the three kings..
Will update when received.
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Ordered from MaxHavelaar, I've been waiting to try this new batch of his. I bought from him back last winter, and it was some good shit.
This is supposed to be 94% purity! Sounds good to me. At $14.50 for 2g's (factor in drying) and $11 shipping, it's not a bad deal.
Worth a try anyway.
Went in transit today, so I'll be back with a review in a week or so.
Laytah
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For those who are pretty regular amp heads, how much do you normally need to do (pure AMP) in a single dose to get lifted? how much will you do in a day?
I'm not sure if you're asking for responses from somebody like me or not? I mean I don't take breaks... like, at all. I haven't gone more than 24 hours without an amphetamine of some kind for months. I can easily take several grams in a day if I let myself. My idea of a "day" can vary though (I don't sleep predictably -- gosh, I wonder why, hah). Individual doses are something like 200mg to 750mg. Depends on how crazy I feel like getting, honestly.
I think I'm extremely unusual though. I've also got a tolerance that's been building from regular use over many years; take the information for what it's worth I guess.
Hey, you aren't worried about your heart exploding or something?
My dosages aren't quite at your level, but I've been almost non-stop for months and just assume the body can't take that much constant abuse (can it?).
Taking it everyday without interruption causes one to develop a tolerance, as the body produces more and more dopamine+norepinephrine receptors in reaction to the increased presence of dopamine/epinephrine transmitters triggered by the Amph/Meth. As this cycle continues, the result is an increase in tolerance to the drug, and more and more is needed to get the same effect. So say 50mg used to be plenty strong enough for you, as to cause mild tachycardia, you could end up where 500mg is needed for that same effect.
When I first started taking Adderall, 10mg had me zooming the first few days. Total euphoric bliss. By the end of the month I was up to 30mg 2X a day. - Then I found the Silk Road. And, well, you can figure out the rest.
~CHIP~
PS - I'm in crash mode again. I want to redose so bad, but know it's a waste, so I'm going to see if maybe laying down on the bed works.
What a genius idea!
"Goodnight Ladies and Germs" - Groucho Marx
I understand all that. I mean his using it so much that his tolerance got that high.
I get that people's body chemistries are different, but I feel worn out and I'm not even close to that level ???
I would like to apologize for not pointing this out sooner. I don't come around much these days and don't read nearly as much of the posts as I used to. Only now do I realize that I've done my fellow amphetamine enthusiasts a disservice by not wanting to be more vocal about this: I have problems with my health. They may be severe and life threatening. I'm not sure, because frankly I can't afford the tests to be sure. I've lasted almost six months with this problem and it comes and goes. The fact that I'm not dead already is evidence that it may be something I can recover from. The worst possibility would probably have killed me by now, so the chances it's that are looking slim.
I really don't want to talk about it, frankly, but my point is that my heart may actually explode (figuratively). I'll say it once again: i do not recommend this lifestyle. I choose it because for me, it is better than the alternative (barely). The price is extremely high though, and after 10 years of regular amphetamine abuse, it may finally be catching up with me. I honestly don't know. There is something very wrong, and that's about all I do know. You cannot do what I do and get away clean forever -- not unless something else just happens to kill you first.
Be sure you want to take the actions you take. Breaks aren't so bad, honestly. I don't know why I don't take them. I just fucking hate stopping... even long enough to sleep. I hate slowing down. Anyway... I just wanted to point out that what I do is not safe, and I don't want anyone to get the idea that it is. I am however still sane as far as I can tell, though honestly I'm beginning to wonder. I mean I really am beginning to actually wonder... but either way, at least I'm still sane enough to wonder if I am.
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For those who are pretty regular amp heads, how much do you normally need to do (pure AMP) in a single dose to get lifted? how much will you do in a day?
I'm not sure if you're asking for responses from somebody like me or not? I mean I don't take breaks... like, at all. I haven't gone more than 24 hours without an amphetamine of some kind for months. I can easily take several grams in a day if I let myself. My idea of a "day" can vary though (I don't sleep predictably -- gosh, I wonder why, hah). Individual doses are something like 200mg to 750mg. Depends on how crazy I feel like getting, honestly.
I think I'm extremely unusual though. I've also got a tolerance that's been building from regular use over many years; take the information for what it's worth I guess.
Hey, you aren't worried about your heart exploding or something?
My dosages aren't quite at your level, but I've been almost non-stop for months and just assume the body can't take that much constant abuse (can it?).
Taking it everyday without interruption causes one to develop a tolerance, as the body produces more and more dopamine+norepinephrine receptors in reaction to the increased presence of dopamine/epinephrine transmitters triggered by the Amph/Meth. As this cycle continues, the result is an increase in tolerance to the drug, and more and more is needed to get the same effect. So say 50mg used to be plenty strong enough for you, as to cause mild tachycardia, you could end up where 500mg is needed for that same effect.
When I first started taking Adderall, 10mg had me zooming the first few days. Total euphoric bliss. By the end of the month I was up to 30mg 2X a day. - Then I found the Silk Road. And, well, you can figure out the rest.
~CHIP~
PS - I'm in crash mode again. I want to redose so bad, but know it's a waste, so I'm going to see if maybe laying down on the bed works.
What a genius idea!
"Goodnight Ladies and Germs" - Groucho Marx
I understand all that. I mean his using it so much that his tolerance got that high.
I get that people's body chemistries are different, but I feel worn out and I'm not even close to that level ???
I would like to apologize for not pointing this out sooner. I don't come around much these days and don't read nearly as much of the posts as I used to. Only now do I realize that I've done my fellow amphetamine enthusiasts a disservice by not wanting to be more vocal about this: I have problems with my health. They may be severe and life threatening. I'm not sure, because frankly I can't afford the tests to be sure. I've lasted almost six months with this problem and it comes and goes. The fact that I'm not dead already is evidence that it may be something I can recover from. The worst possibility would probably have killed me by now, so the chances it's that are looking slim.
I really don't want to talk about it, frankly, but my point is that my heart may actually explode (figuratively). I'll say it once again: i do not recommend this lifestyle. I choose it because for me, it is better than the alternative (barely). The price is extremely high though, and after 10 years of regular amphetamine abuse, it may finally be catching up with me. I honestly don't know. There is something very wrong, and that's about all I do know. You cannot do what I do and get away clean forever -- not unless something else just happens to kill you first.
Be sure you want to take the actions you take. Breaks aren't so bad, honestly. I don't know why I don't take them. I just fucking hate stopping... even long enough to sleep. I hate slowing down. Anyway... I just wanted to point out that what I do is not safe, and I don't want anyone to get the idea that it is. I am however still sane as far as I can tell, though honestly I'm beginning to wonder. I mean I really am beginning to actually wonder... but either way, at least I'm still sane enough to wonder if I am.
I understand that this lifestyle can be an unhappy one. I hope you find the strength to stop, if that's the case.
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I really don't want to talk about it, frankly, but my point is that my heart may actually explode (figuratively). I'll say it once again: i do not recommend this lifestyle. I choose it because for me, it is better than the alternative (barely). The price is extremely high though, and after 10 years of regular amphetamine abuse, it may finally be catching up with me. I honestly don't know. There is something very wrong, and that's about all I do know. You cannot do what I do and get away clean forever -- not unless something else just happens to kill you first.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you've been using a lot of meth too, not just amphetamine? If so, 10 years seems like a long run before health problems appeared. I started bleeding from my insides a week in a meth use. That's the one drug I won't be touching with a stick in my life.
Best of luck to you.
tri-basicphosphate salt from iisthisisi is very potent. 20mg. orally puts me where I want to be, and I must have at least an average tolerance after using amphetamine for the most part of the last year (I sleep and eat, and never push it too far, though). One negative thing I get from it is noticeable comedowns with headache. Anyone else gets that from it?
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I really don't want to talk about it, frankly, but my point is that my heart may actually explode (figuratively). I'll say it once again: i do not recommend this lifestyle. I choose it because for me, it is better than the alternative (barely). The price is extremely high though, and after 10 years of regular amphetamine abuse, it may finally be catching up with me. I honestly don't know. There is something very wrong, and that's about all I do know. You cannot do what I do and get away clean forever -- not unless something else just happens to kill you first.
Be sure you want to take the actions you take. Breaks aren't so bad, honestly. I don't know why I don't take them. I just fucking hate stopping... even long enough to sleep. I hate slowing down. Anyway... I just wanted to point out that what I do is not safe, and I don't want anyone to get the idea that it is. I am however still sane as far as I can tell, though honestly I'm beginning to wonder. I mean I really am beginning to actually wonder... but either way, at least I'm still sane enough to wonder if I am.
Obviously, you DO want to talk about it.
Your biggest problem is you can afford the huge amounts you do. - Can't afford the Dr though, huh? I'm lucky I'm living on a fixed income. If I was getting those fat checks like back when I worked at the phone co, and SR was around then? I'd be dead already. That's why I believe in God. He's always saving me from myself.
There's always hope, and there's always help, and money shouldn't be a factor. The hard part is asking for the help. Man up, and go get it. Humility can be very life affirming. You may not understand that now, but you will if you humble yourself and go to the ER, and tell them your problems.
I'll talk to you in PM's
Peace 8)
jagfug
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I really don't want to talk about it, frankly, but my point is that my heart may actually explode (figuratively). I'll say it once again: i do not recommend this lifestyle. I choose it because for me, it is better than the alternative (barely). The price is extremely high though, and after 10 years of regular amphetamine abuse, it may finally be catching up with me. I honestly don't know. There is something very wrong, and that's about all I do know. You cannot do what I do and get away clean forever -- not unless something else just happens to kill you first.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you've been using a lot of meth too, not just amphetamine? If so, 10 years seems like a long run before health problems appeared. I started bleeding from my insides a week in a meth use. That's the one drug I won't be touching with a stick in my life.
Best of luck to you.
tri-basicphosphate salt from iisthisisi is very potent. 20mg. orally puts me where I want to be, and I must have at least an average tolerance after using amphetamine for the most part of the last year (I sleep and eat, and never push it too far, though). One negative thing I get from it is noticeable comedowns with headache. Anyone else gets that from it?
Meth made you bleed from the insides? what the fuck.. ? you must be just talking about a nose bleed.
Bit dramatic don't you think?
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Has anyone here been using speed / meth / mephedrone weekly for many, many years?
Just wondering... I use weekly or fortnightly on average and don't ever go for any longer than 36 hours.
I've never had any problems and I've been doing this for about 3 years without problems.
But I'm just wondering if anybody has had problems with weekly stimulant use?
I'm fairly sure it's not very harmful, but I'd rather be sure.
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Meth made you bleed from the insides? what the fuck.. ? you must be just talking about a nose bleed.
Bit dramatic don't you think?
nah, blood in stool.
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Be sure you want to take the actions you take. Breaks aren't so bad, honestly. I don't know why I don't take them. I just fucking hate stopping... even long enough to sleep. I hate slowing down. Anyway... I just wanted to point out that what I do is not safe, and I don't want anyone to get the idea that it is. I am however still sane as far as I can tell, though honestly I'm beginning to wonder. I mean I really am beginning to actually wonder... but either way, at least I'm still sane enough to wonder if I am.
I am like this in a way... If it were up to me I would not waste time sleeping. I'd just be productive 24/7.
But I know that it is not healthy and unnatural and cannot be sustained.
Maybe it's time to take a very long break from stims.
Hope it works out for you. And go to the doctor. If you can afford a couple of grams of speed, you can definitely afford a doctor.
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Anyone get CC's latest batch yet?
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Anyone get CC's latest batch yet?
I've been wanting to get a hold of CC's stuff for ages now. I've talked to him and he doesn't think he's going to ship to Australia at all. Major dissapoint :(
If any reliable vendor is re-shipping CC's product to Aus, can I be informed over PM please and thank you? :D
I hope BM comes back soon... I'm yet to taste pure speed and I can't wait :o
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I really don't want to talk about it, frankly, but my point is that my heart may actually explode (figuratively). I'll say it once again: i do not recommend this lifestyle. I choose it because for me, it is better than the alternative (barely). The price is extremely high though, and after 10 years of regular amphetamine abuse, it may finally be catching up with me. I honestly don't know. There is something very wrong, and that's about all I do know. You cannot do what I do and get away clean forever -- not unless something else just happens to kill you first.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you've been using a lot of meth too, not just amphetamine? If so, 10 years seems like a long run before health problems appeared. I started bleeding from my insides a week in a meth use. That's the one drug I won't be touching with a stick in my life.
Best of luck to you.
tri-basicphosphate salt from iisthisisi is very potent. 20mg. orally puts me where I want to be, and I must have at least an average tolerance after using amphetamine for the most part of the last year (I sleep and eat, and never push it too far, though). One negative thing I get from it is noticeable comedowns with headache. Anyone else gets that from it?
I will preface this by saying I am no chemist or doctor, but the "tribasic" form intrigued me quite a bit but there is almost no information on this form of amphetamine. I did find an article about dibasic form and the article basically said that the dibasic form has less desirable qualities for human consumption than standard phosphate or sulfate (if theres enough interest ill try and find it again). The Merck Index also did not help me out too much since there is nothing about this form in the version I have (one difference I found is that normal amphetamine phosphate is more acidic than the sulfate).
On the other hand, a search of tribasic salts in general all show that they can be more toxic than their more common forms -- please chemists/biologists, correct me if I am wrong because I'm very interested. Moreover, however, in reference to phosphate salts in general, WebMD has this to say about tribasic phosphates:
People use phosphate salts for medicine. Be careful not to confuse phosphate salts with substances such as organophosphates, or with tribasic sodium phosphates and tribasic potassium phosphates, which are very poisonous.
However, I did find a very interesting patent filed in 1962 about salts from tribasic acids which claimed there are better forms of amphetamine out there (again, its 50 years old and I'm no chemist) but this line stuck out when referring to "amphetamine tropine procaine phosphate":
Of the twelve or so patients who had had previous experience with amphetamine sulphate and similar drugs, all but one expressed the positive preference for amphetamine tropine procaine phosphate, calling attention to..the fact that with it they felt energized without such side effects as loss of appetite, palpitations, sense of jitteriness, dryness of the mouth, or headachey feelings. In general, side elfects with amphetamine tropine procaine phosphate were unexpectedly few.
Here's the link to the patent, its interesting. http://www.google.com/patents/US3026323. I wish I knew more about chemistry because there must be a reason pharmaceutical companies choose sulfate over tribasic phosphate if the latter is stronger...they do make desoxyn afterall so why wouldn't they prefer a stronger form of amphetamine?
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Great post Jackintherox!
Lot's of really good information here.
+ 1 to you mate.
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Is boymaster still selling that speed that had me thinking I was going to die on 100mg? Shit whacked me for six! 50mg was enough but I thought 'do 100mg, man up!'. Never even made the boozer. just bed and a night of hell, headaches and headaches inside headaches. Head banging like a brothel in /thailand at peak hour (when the UK influx of 'tourists flock in')
I'm sad as my vendor for dexamfetamine is on vacation and had no listings for a while. UK to UK, prescription grade. No comedown off these babes. 5mg, easy to take, effective in a 10 mg dose to wake you up in a easy way - not hyper. 20 mg will make you annoying but willing to work fast!
Use occasionally. Last treat months ago,
So if any other fans of this 'mild' speed, pharm grade, given to children for ADS, let me know please!
Need a few in for a stagg night.
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Is boymaster still selling that speed that had me thinking I was going to die on 100mg? Shit whacked me for six! 50mg was enough but I thought 'do 100mg, man up!'. Never even made the boozer. just bed and a night of hell, headaches and headaches inside headaches. Head banging like a brothel in /thailand at peak hour (when the UK influx of 'tourists flock in')
I'm sad as my vendor for dexamfetamine is on vacation and had no listings for a while. UK to UK, prescription grade. No comedown off these babes. 5mg, easy to take, effective in a 10 mg dose to wake you up in a easy way - not hyper. 20 mg will make you annoying but willing to work fast!
Use occasionally. Last treat months ago,
So if any other fans of this 'mild' speed, pharm grade, given to children for ADS, let me know please!
Need a few in for a stagg night.
The last batch from BM was IMO the strongest and cleanest ive had from him but recently he is on a restructuring break and wont be back until next month..
Other than that I cant help you mate, good luck!
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Hey all just wanted to update yall on my first time using speed(CC's). I started off with 8mg just to test the waters and was underwhelmed. The next day(today) I took 20mg and again was underwhelmed, better, but underwhelmed. A few hours later I weighed out 40mg and took it around 8pm. Let me tell you, that hit the spot! Very stimulated, very chatty, overall was just in a great mood. It is now approaching 230am and am having trouble falling asleep. I'm worried I'm going to feel like hell tomorrow because I have to be up in 5 hours! I am NOT a morning person lol. I also have been clenching my jaw like crazy, somebody get me some gum and a bottle of water!
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Results from IISTHISISI tri-basicphosphate salt
Today I got the results from IISTHISISI tri-basicphosphate salt.
There is 72% amphetamine in it from a max of 73% and no contaminations.
So this is a score from almost 100% absolute a very good job.
For me it works a little different (stronger faster) then normal amp.
Speedie
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Results from IISTHISISI tri-basicphosphate salt
Today I got the results from IISTHISISI tri-basicphosphate salt.
There is 72% amphetamine in it from a max of 73% and no contaminations.
So this is a score from almost 100% absolute a very good job.
For me it works a little different (stronger faster) then normal amp.
Speedie
+1 thanks for your time and effort mate! That is an amazing result.. Congrats to iisthisisi!
I would give my left nut for a chance to try that stuff!
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BoyMaster is returning? :D He popped my amphetamine-cherry, so I might be *slightly* biased, but I absolutely loved his stuff. Never saw another one of his listings again though when I was in need of some speed (maybe he went private?)
I'm now in possession of some speed from Haizenberg. Seeing as there isn't much said about it yet, I'll try to review it as good as I possibly can:
It was my first order of speed paste. My ROA of choice is through the nose and I've always been lazy and ordered dried powder, but since I had a satisfactory experience with Haizenberg before and considering his sharp prices, I decided to give it a go. I bought his 2g listing and expected to lose around 50% from drying. I didn't get to weigh the wet product as it was a pretty thick paste and didn't want to get out of the bag all that easily. I'm not worried it was underweight, but it could have been overweight due to the delay (more on that later). Can't say how much was lost through drying, but I ended up with 1.3g of nicely coloured (white with just a very slight hint towards yellow) powder with a nice smell.
Chances are some of you've already read my review in Haizenberg's personal topics, but I feel I was quite unfair about the quality. I had been on a break for a month and during that break, as well as some time before that, I'd been taking magnesium daily. I've also played a bit with Ketamine, in both therapeutic and recreational doses, which is rumored to somewhat reverse tolerance. Needless to say, I was expecting quite a bit from my first line, especially with the quality Heizenberg promises. So after breakfast I laid down a nice line (stupidly enough I didn't weigh it, but it was on the high side for pure amphetamine) and snorted it. Gave a nice burn, I had actually missed that burn. No nasty drip either, so far so good. However, because of the circumstances I was expecting euphoria, which I didn't get. I assumed the quality wasn't that good after all so I decided to take 20mg more (which was less than the first line). And then another 20mg. I certainly felt the effects, it actually was a very nice clean focus throughout the whole day, but no euphoria. Being quite disappointed (and cocky from the speed), I questioned the purity in my review which I wrote that evening. By now I know better (and I'll actually go and fix that in the other reviews after I'm done with this one)
I'm used to being unable to sleep for around 12 hours after my last line. A while before that I'd start to come down and get the urge to redose. I dosed with that schedule in mind, but 12 hours after the last Haizenberg dose I still felt completely up, without even as much of a hint of a comedown. 2 hours later, still feeling 100% up, I decided I had to at least go try to sleep, as I had to get up early the next day. Took some melatonin, hoping it would help and while it certainly made me sleepy it didn't stand a chance against the amphetamine. Laid awake in bed for 2 hours, at which point the melatonin had worn off and I felt quite awake once again. At this point it was 16 hours after the last dose and I was completely baffled by this long duration. Since I had about 3 more hours before my alarm would go off, I decided to knock myself out with GBL. I seriously wonder if I had managed to sleep at all without it. My break and the high dose certainly influenced this personal record, but it could never have happened with low quality speed. I'm certain that Haizenberg sells top notch stuff and will certainly buy again (well, it'll be either from him or BoyMaster ;) ).
Packaging was great by the way. The letter didn't smell at all, not on the outside nor on the inside. The product was double vac-sealed, which did a perfect job. Stealth looked professionally.
About the delay: my first order (LSD) was delayed and I got 20% extra because of it. This order (speed paste) was most likely also delayed. Not by as much as the first, but I wouldn't rule out I got a little extra. Haizenberg is customer friendly like that, but it may have caused my dry weight to be off. I guess it is just my (and his) bad luck that both orders got delayed and while I'm not bothered too much by it (especially with the generous compensation), there is a downside: the lack of communication. Both times I had to find out myself on his profile and both times the order was marked 'in transit' very quickly after ordering. Turned out the orders weren't shipped at that point at all, I guess Haizenberg just wanted to secure the order. The lack of communication I can understand and accept, he probably has tons of customers with his low prices, but I would really like to hear an explanation about the falsely marked orders.
Writing this review really wet my appetite, had a little more ;D
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Results from IISTHISISI tri-basicphosphate salt
Today I got the results from IISTHISISI tri-basicphosphate salt.
There is 72% amphetamine in it from a max of 73% and no contaminations.
So this is a score from almost 100% absolute a very good job.
For me it works a little different (stronger faster) then normal amp.
Speedie
Hello everybody
Today I have been to the dentist and he made some X-rays from my denture.
He compared this X-rays with the X-rays from 2010 and difference was huge.
There were gaps between my teeth due to caries. And this caries is the result from using amphetamine the last three years.
I didn't used it everyday but I guess 50 % of the time sometimes with binging.
So my girlfriend and I decided to quiet using speed and throw the rest to the toilet.(8 grams from BM I guess)
Good luck everybody SPEEDIE
So you lasted 3 months? Not a bad break. Now you're breaking bad ! :P
Sorry couldn't resist! ::)
Anyway, I'd like to thank you as well. It takes time and money to get that testing done, and this site, this thread in particular, benefits immensely from it.
Remember the old "General Laboratory Results" site? You're on there from January, and the last one posted was February.
Just a suggestion. It would be nice to freshen that up, and maybe encourage others to do the same. By the way, Maxhavelaar is back with some great stuff. (I'll know in a week perhaps), he's asking any NL'rs if they can get it tested for him. Maybe he'll give you a good deal!
It's $14.50 for 2g's wet paste. +$3.50 shipping/$11 "Super Stealth"shipping. (USD), Says it's (69%/73%) 94% pure. It would be interesting to know on that one.
Peace 8)
jagfug
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BoyMaster is returning? :D He popped my amphetamine-cherry, so I might be *slightly* biased, but I absolutely loved his stuff. Never saw another one of his listings again though when I was in need of some speed (maybe he went private?)
I'm now in possession of some speed from Haizenberg. Seeing as there isn't much said about it yet, I'll try to review it as good as I possibly can:
It was my first order of speed paste. My ROA of choice is through the nose and I've always been lazy and ordered dried powder, but since I had a satisfactory experience with Haizenberg before and considering his sharp prices, I decided to give it a go. I bought his 2g listing and expected to lose around 50% from drying. I didn't get to weigh the wet product as it was a pretty thick paste and didn't want to get out of the bag all that easily. I'm not worried it was underweight, but it could have been overweight due to the delay (more on that later). Can't say how much was lost through drying, but I ended up with 1.3g of nicely coloured (white with just a very slight hint towards yellow) powder with a nice smell.
Chances are some of you've already read my review in Haizenberg's personal topics, but I feel I was quite unfair about the quality. I had been on a break for a month and during that break, as well as some time before that, I'd been taking magnesium daily. I've also played a bit with Ketamine, in both therapeutic and recreational doses, which is rumored to somewhat reverse tolerance. Needless to say, I was expecting quite a bit from my first line, especially with the quality Heizenberg promises. So after breakfast I laid down a nice line (stupidly enough I didn't weigh it, but it was on the high side for pure amphetamine) and snorted it. Gave a nice burn, I had actually missed that burn. No nasty drip either, so far so good. However, because of the circumstances I was expecting euphoria, which I didn't get. I assumed the quality wasn't that good after all so I decided to take 20mg more (which was less than the first line). And then another 20mg. I certainly felt the effects, it actually was a very nice clean focus throughout the whole day, but no euphoria. Being quite disappointed (and cocky from the speed), I questioned the purity in my review which I wrote that evening. By now I know better (and I'll actually go and fix that in the other reviews after I'm done with this one)
I'm used to being unable to sleep for around 12 hours after my last line. A while before that I'd start to come down and get the urge to redose. I dosed with that schedule in mind, but 12 hours after the last Haizenberg dose I still felt completely up, without even as much of a hint of a comedown. 2 hours later, still feeling 100% up, I decided I had to at least go try to sleep, as I had to get up early the next day. Took some melatonin, hoping it would help and while it certainly made me sleepy it didn't stand a chance against the amphetamine. Laid awake in bed for 2 hours, at which point the melatonin had worn off and I felt quite awake once again. At this point it was 16 hours after the last dose and I was completely baffled by this long duration. Since I had about 3 more hours before my alarm would go off, I decided to knock myself out with GBL. I seriously wonder if I had managed to sleep at all without it. My break and the high dose certainly influenced this personal record, but it could never have happened with low quality speed. I'm certain that Haizenberg sells top notch stuff and will certainly buy again (well, it'll be either from him or BoyMaster ;) ).
Packaging was great by the way. The letter didn't smell at all, not on the outside nor on the inside. The product was double vac-sealed, which did a perfect job. Stealth looked professionally.
About the delay: my first order (LSD) was delayed and I got 20% extra because of it. This order (speed paste) was most likely also delayed. Not by as much as the first, but I wouldn't rule out I got a little extra. Haizenberg is customer friendly like that, but it may have caused my dry weight to be off. I guess it is just my (and his) bad luck that both orders got delayed and while I'm not bothered too much by it (especially with the generous compensation), there is a downside: the lack of communication. Both times I had to find out myself on his profile and both times the order was marked 'in transit' very quickly after ordering. Turned out the orders weren't shipped at that point at all, I guess Haizenberg just wanted to secure the order. The lack of communication I can understand and accept, he probably has tons of customers with his low prices, but I would really like to hear an explanation about the falsely marked orders.
Writing this review really wet my appetite, had a little more ;D
The speed order wasnt delayed at all mate , its just the czech postal system , What can i say ;)
thanks for the review bro ;)
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Hey all just wanted to update yall on my first time using speed(CC's). I started off with 8mg just to test the waters and was underwhelmed. The next day(today) I took 20mg and again was underwhelmed, better, but underwhelmed. A few hours later I weighed out 40mg and took it around 8pm. Let me tell you, that hit the spot! Very stimulated, very chatty, overall was just in a great mood. It is now approaching 230am and am having trouble falling asleep. I'm worried I'm going to feel like hell tomorrow because I have to be up in 5 hours! I am NOT a morning person lol. I also have been clenching my jaw like crazy, somebody get me some gum and a bottle of water!
k4rts, When did you order/receive your order from CC? I'm trying to gauge a time-frame of when I should be expecting my order. Thanks in advance!
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The speed order wasnt delayed at all mate , its just the czech postal system , What can i say ;)
thanks for the review bro ;)
What about this message on your profile?
Was experiencing delays with shpiments in the past 2 weeks due to some personal life problems
All issues are solved now , and you can order with confiedence and expect your order to be sent within 48 hours.
Cheers
Haizenberg.
I'm not sure of the exact date I placed my order, but it can't have been more than 2 weeks ago. And I'm also pretty sure that message wasn't there yet when I placed the order (maybe you should include the date in all your updates though, makes it clearer to everyone which orders could be affected). Well, I guess I'll have to plan ahead a little more than usual next time I order, because even the Czech postal system won't scare me off.
But if the order wasn't delayed, the wet weight was around 2g, which means there was a 35% loss from drying. A very good score I believe, but again, I have no prior experience with speed paste so I can't compare directly. Someone else who can shine some more light on the matter?
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^ 35% loss is very decent.. Every time I've had paste its lost at least 50% or more.
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Where does iisthisisi ship from?
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Where does iisthisisi ship from?
The Netherlands
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Any idea when CC will re up his lists?
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Any idea when CC will re up his lists?
Last I heard he said that they would be up this Friday. Coins ready ;)
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anyone tried LGcutivo? seems similar to BM, don't want to order from NL and Haiz only ships 2g at a time to where i live...
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Any idea when CC will re up his lists?
Last I heard he said that they would be up this Friday. Coins ready ;)
I wanna have my coins ready, how much is a 5g listing, I have always order the 2Gs?
My last order should be here by friday if not sooner, the previous have all got to me 10 days in transit, Friday lining up to be a good day!
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anyone tried LGcutivo? seems similar to BM, don't want to order from NL and Haiz only ships 2g at a time to where i live...
Got an order in transit mate, ill update when it arrives.
Any idea when CC will re up his lists?
Last I heard he said that they would be up this Friday. Coins ready ;)
I wanna have my coins ready, how much is a 5g listing, I have always order the 2Gs?
5g is around $100 from memory.
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Results from IISTHISISI tri-basicphosphate salt
Today I got the results from IISTHISISI tri-basicphosphate salt.
There is 72% amphetamine in it from a max of 73% and no contaminations.
So this is a score from almost 100% absolute a very good job.
For me it works a little different (stronger faster) then normal amp.
Speedie
nice one. Can't say this is unexpected, all I ever got from isi was above the competition.
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anyone tried LGcutivo? seems similar to BM, don't want to order from NL and Haiz only ships 2g at a time to where i live...
Interested in LG for the same reason, but the prices are too high and no 5, 10g listings which would make it cheaper. I just threw away some old baggys from a year ago and the residue of BM's had changed color similar to this pink stuff.
Haiz still owes me an order, just ignores my messages, I was away when I could have used res center and it was auto-finalized once I was back. Sucks. He said he'd reship, but hasn't checked my message in like 5 days. Imho not the best customer support.
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Anyone remember how much 2g of CC stuff was last time? Not sure if i should wait for his listings cause i dont know if got enough BTC left for 2g from CC (i recall him to be always cheaper then BM/IIS but cant recall excat pprice for 2g listings)
Otherwise i would just go with another 1g from IIS and some leftover BTC even though id like to try CC so i have tested all big 3.
Well to tell you quickly about my experience with IIS stuff: it just blew me and my friend away. Worked through 2g in about 2-3 weeks and all i can say that it felt subjective way better and stronger then the pink batch i got from BM beforehand. All it took was 2-3 decent lines and maybe another one about 2-3 hours later for the next 8-10hours of clear alertness with a feeling of a clear mind and body without any bodyload/jitter/inquietude well you know all that nasty stuff you get from nasty paste. Some people say its quite hard on the nose and while thats true its still pleasant compared to some paste i had in the past where you literally have tears in your eyes from the harsh chemical burn not to mention the disgusting smell and taste of solvents and the white chunks you can pick out of your nose afterwards, i will never miss all that crap after trying the real deal.
The thing that IIS felt stronger might also be due to the fact i had a break of ~2-3 weeks between BM stuff and IIS stuff but no break (from paste) before taking BMs pink batch. But even after several days of low/mid dosage of IIS stuff it felt still stronger then BMs stuff at the first day to me.
In conclusion IIS easily beats BM for me in every way: better (subjective) quality, better shipping time, better stealth (BM stealth was kind of poor compared to IIS be honest: *stealth details deleted, but it wasnt too good* ).
cheers
Edit: deleted details about BM stealth, even though i dont think there were any big secrets revealed anyway ;)
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^ Its somewhere around $44 for 2 grams.
Looks like CC will be getting a storm of orders from this round as always ;)
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Writing this review really wet my appetite, had a little more ;D
The speed order wasnt delayed at all mate , its just the czech postal system , What can i say ;)
thanks for the review bro ;)
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You seem to have a few disgruntled customers in your discussion.
But I will have a 25 buck 2 gram amphet gamble with you next week I love a gamble ;D
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CC order arrived today!
The Champagne of Speed ! It's been a while since I've had any, but I have to say, this better than I remember. Of course I dosed too high. Probably 100mg, at least. I thought with my tolerance to Tina recently, it wouldn't impress. Boy was I wrong. Totally blew me away.
Overly focused. I did get a bit irritable, then once I started cleaning, all was good. Now, having eaten (finally), I'm slowing down enough to tolerate the internet.
5/5 All around
Quality - Light fluffy eggshell white crunchy powder, that a small amount after chopping, doubles in volume. Really clean feel. It's amazing how clean this is. Just perfect, IMHO. Nasally, mild burn to it. Though probably the least burn of any I've had before.
Weight - Spot on.
Shipping - the usual perfect stealth. Took 9 days from day marked in transit to NE US. - Not bad when you consider where it's coming from, and really right about the same timing as orders from CC in the past. So I guess that delay from the postal strike is finally over.
This is some really high quality amphetamine IMHO. Very low body load, though had physical energy, more than mental. I think since I overdid it on the dose, that happened, as now that I've come down significantly (12 hours later), I'm into the focused mode. Also burning my brain out on Amph's cousin Tina, could have something to do with my reaction.
This is very strong stuff kiddies. 1st timers please use a scale, and start with 10mg at a time, and work up. I could easily have had a great day taking 30mg. Really enjoying the mental clarity and calmness I'm getting now. No urge to binge.
Bravo Cape Crusader!
The Champagne of Speed !
~Chip~
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CC order arrived today!
The Champagne of Speed ! It's been a while since I've had any, but I have to say, this better than I remember. Of course I dosed too high. Probably 100mg, at least. I thought with my tolerance to Tina recently, it wouldn't impress. Boy was I wrong. Totally blew me away.
Overly focused. I did get a bit irritable, then once I started cleaning, all was good. Now, having eaten (finally), I'm slowing down enough to tolerate the internet.
5/5 All around
Quality - Light fluffy eggshell white crunchy powder, that a small amount after chopping, doubles in volume. Really clean feel. It's amazing how clean this is. Just perfect, IMHO. Nasally, mild burn to it. Though probably the least burn of any I've had before.
Weight - Spot on.
Shipping - the usual perfect stealth. Took 9 days from day marked in transit to NE US. - Not bad when you consider where it's coming from, and really right about the same timing as orders from CC in the past. So I guess that delay from the postal strike is finally over.
This is some really high quality amphetamine IMHO. Very low body load, though had physical energy, more than mental. I think since I overdid it on the dose, that happened, as now that I've come down significantly (12 hours later), I'm into the focused mode. Also burning my brain out on Amph's cousin Tina, could have something to do with my reaction.
This is very strong stuff kiddies. 1st timers please use a scale, and start with 10mg at a time, and work up. I could easily have had a great day taking 30mg. Really enjoying the mental clarity and calmness I'm getting now. No urge to binge.
Bravo Cape Crusader!
The Champagne of Speed !
~Chip~
Excellent review Chip +1!
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Hey all just wanted to update yall on my first time using speed(CC's). I started off with 8mg just to test the waters and was underwhelmed. The next day(today) I took 20mg and again was underwhelmed, better, but underwhelmed. A few hours later I weighed out 40mg and took it around 8pm. Let me tell you, that hit the spot! Very stimulated, very chatty, overall was just in a great mood. It is now approaching 230am and am having trouble falling asleep. I'm worried I'm going to feel like hell tomorrow because I have to be up in 5 hours! I am NOT a morning person lol. I also have been clenching my jaw like crazy, somebody get me some gum and a bottle of water!
Wow mate, way to man up... Ive got a tolerance built, using amp daily for almost 6 months and 40mg of CC's still puts me borderline sick. Ill do 100mg's a day or so but spaced out, 40mg at once brings the crazy visions and sweats for me :p
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Hey guys! My CC order arrived too today (well technically yesterday) Wednesday. - 10 days, including a weekend. Are you fucking kidding me? That's fast!
Consider where it's coming from? We're lucky it makes it here at all! - I see these little whiny remarks in his feedback about "took a long time".
I'd hate to see what happens to these dudes when it never shows, or when they get a letter from DHS/Customs!
Anyway, CC's stuff is as good as Chip says. I gotta just say "Ditto" to his review.
Clean, fluffy/crunchy, etc. High Quality speed. Nothing to "Dry" here. Uses a sweet smelling carrying agent. Really nice stuff.
Oh and his stealth is fine. It does the trick, is all I'll say.
CC is the best Amph I think I've ever had.
Laytah!
- PS - @YaggaYagga - please 'modify' your last post. You should never disclose anything about how something is packaged.
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Well hopefully if he relists on Friday I can get 5 grams but it looks like you got to be fast off the blocks to get it.
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Well hopefully if he relists on Friday I can get 5 grams but it looks like you got to be fast off the blocks to get it.
Hey Man, I can relate. I've been waiting 3 months, to time it just right. When his listings and my ฿ were there at the same time. Finally the planets aligned for me.
The trick is discipline for me. I have to try really hard to not let ฿ burn a hole in my virtual pants. :P
There are so many temptations on this site for me, so it's not that easy.
Being that CC's been taking listings down and putting them up so long, I think the longer the time he takes to put them back up, the better the chance is that they'll stay up longer. Assuming, of course, the reason for that is re-stocking. It's probably both that, and just getting the volume of processing orders to shipped, factoring in of course the assumption that he has a life outside the Silk Road.
It's also a good sign that many besides me, got their orders in the normal time frame, so there's not that delay to screw things up.
I'd say the chances are good.
Also all of us hypothesizing on here, usually generates a response from the man himself.
I hope it works out for ya.
All the best of luck that it does.
Laytah!
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CC is back? Friday you say? **Lists all items owned on craigslist**
haha...if it were that orange batch he was hawking last year, that stuff was the shit. The white...eh. Not so much. Even that being said, CC and BM are still untouchable in this category
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Well hopefully if he relists on Friday I can get 5 grams but it looks like you got to be fast off the blocks to get it.
Hey Man, I can relate. I've been waiting 3 months, to time it just right. When his listings and my ฿ were there at the same time. Finally the planets aligned for me.
The trick is discipline for me. I have to try really hard to not let ฿ burn a hole in my virtual pants. :P
There are so many temptations on this site for me, so it's not that easy.
Being that CC's been taking listings down and putting them up so long, I think the longer the time he takes to put them back up, the better the chance is that they'll stay up longer. Assuming, of course, the reason for that is re-stocking. It's probably both that, and just getting the volume of processing orders to shipped, factoring in of course the assumption that he has a life outside the Silk Road.
It's also a good sign that many besides me, got their orders in the normal time frame, so there's not that delay to screw things up.
I'd say the chances are good.
Also all of us hypothesizing on here, usually generates a response from the man himself.
I hope it works out for ya.
All the best of luck that it does.
Laytah!
Haha thanks off to but the coin in a minute but I too have found other things I want on here so got to get more coin ;D
Main reason I joined the forum was this thread and to find the good vendors and not some of the muppets I found before lol.
My drugs of choice have always been stims had some opiates on the road made a nice change a nod here and a nod there but still far prefer the stims and want the best the road has to offer if I can get it , don't mind paying the extra . The road has taught me to acetone wash though if I have to resort to paste again if I can't get it off the top vendors.
Just got the long wait and those nasty customs people to worry about if I get some.
But I'm sure I'll manage with some of the other things I have found on here to tide me over. ;D
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CC order arrived today!
The Champagne of Speed ! It's been a while since I've had any, but I have to say, this better than I remember. Of course I dosed too high. Probably 100mg, at least. I thought with my tolerance to Tina recently, it wouldn't impress. Boy was I wrong. Totally blew me away.
Overly focused. I did get a bit irritable, then once I started cleaning, all was good. Now, having eaten (finally), I'm slowing down enough to tolerate the internet.
5/5 All around
Quality - Light fluffy eggshell white crunchy powder, that a small amount after chopping, doubles in volume. Really clean feel. It's amazing how clean this is. Just perfect, IMHO. Nasally, mild burn to it. Though probably the least burn of any I've had before.
Weight - Spot on.
Shipping - the usual perfect stealth. Took 9 days from day marked in transit to NE US. - Not bad when you consider where it's coming from, and really right about the same timing as orders from CC in the past. So I guess that delay from the postal strike is finally over.
This is some really high quality amphetamine IMHO. Very low body load, though had physical energy, more than mental. I think since I overdid it on the dose, that happened, as now that I've come down significantly (12 hours later), I'm into the focused mode. Also burning my brain out on Amph's cousin Tina, could have something to do with my reaction.
This is very strong stuff kiddies. 1st timers please use a scale, and start with 10mg at a time, and work up. I could easily have had a great day taking 30mg. Really enjoying the mental clarity and calmness I'm getting now. No urge to binge.
Bravo Cape Crusader!
The Champagne of Speed !
~Chip~
very low body load?
Do you think CC speed is the best for a trance festival ?
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very low body load?
Do you think CC speed is the best for a trance festival ?
Not sure what happens there, (I'm 45 lol) I'm guessing like a cross between a Rave and a Dead show? :-[ - no laughing you'll be old one day! :'(
I'd say yes, if you wanna be very physical, with mental clarity.
So tell Grandpa here, what's this Trance thing all about? ;)
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very low body load?
Do you think CC speed is the best for a trance festival ?
Not sure what happens there, (I'm 45 lol) I'm guessing like a cross between a Rave and a Dead show? :-[ - no laughing you'll be old one day! :'(
I'd say yes, if you wanna be very physical, with mental clarity.
So tell Grandpa here, what's this Trance thing all about? ;)
1+ for being real
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very low body load?
Do you think CC speed is the best for a trance festival ?
Not sure what happens there, (I'm 45 lol) I'm guessing like a cross between a Rave and a Dead show? :-[ - no laughing you'll be old one day! :'(
I'd say yes, if you wanna be very physical, with mental clarity.
So tell Grandpa here, what's this Trance thing all about? ;)
i see alot people older than you on trance concerts :)
well... one of the things.. people use alot mdma on trance concerts.. mdma put you in a very good mood, very happy.. so imagine alot of people all together rolling on mdma.. everyone is happy and partying like there is no tomorrow, without giving a shit to everything.. I've made alot of friends there :)
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Ok ready for the mad CC rush but went shopping and spent nearly 2 bitcoin but should be ok for the CC speed rush.
Theres amphetimines in those thar hills.
Sure not going to be easy rushing past a load of speed fiends ;D
Better have a toot and swallow a amph parachute and a quick dab before I set off.
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So tell Grandpa here, what's this Trance thing all about? ;)
cut out trance and put in techno and you'll get the gist :) trance is yet another genre of electronic music
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trance_music ;)
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I'm forever cursed by Rock n Roll. I was the youngest, and always wanted to be older, so I got into the stuff that came out when I was in diapers!
From Stones Beatles all the way up to RnR's last breath when Nirvana brought back Rock + Punk combined, and it was named Grunge, but really it was just RocknRoll. Same thing was punk. - My man Johnny Thunders (pic) - Is now called the Godfather of punk. - He HATED the term, he was like, "I ain't no punk, where I come from that's a guy in prison who takes it up the ass". - Johnny was never one to censor himself.
Just like my parents only want to hear Tommy Dorsey and Glen Miller, "Swing" music. God Bless 'em, almost 90! - I'll be stuck in my old world of Rock Music. I'm happy here. Can't listen to anything too electronic. I'll go as far as Todd Rundgren, a trailblazer who pioneered much of the way electronic music is made today.
Todd who?
LoL- take care! - Just got home, and I gotta find my CC stash! - Can't wait! - Did a 40mg capsule this morning. Didn't want to be all "sniff sniff" in front of people. Was the perfect dose for me! - Thanks again CC !
- Laytah!
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Anyone had Blackjack021 amphetimine?
He sells it as powder not some watery mess the reviews on his page seem pretty good on it.
Don't understand all this selling 50 grams and then drying it and end up with 40 percent less product that I read on one page at the other end at least if I buy 5 grams from him it will be roughly 5 grams when it gets here dry.
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Hoping to receive the dibasic amphetamine phosphate from iisthisisi tomorrow :-)) Very curious after reading up other people's experiences, i have got a high tolerance though but i'll start out with 5 or 10mg and see where it brings me though. To be continued!
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Hoping to receive the dibasic amphetamine phosphate from iisthisisi tomorrow :-)) Very curious after reading up other people's experiences, i have got a high tolerance though but i'll start out with 5 or 10mg and see where it brings me though. To be continued!
Good luck hope you have more willpower than I have had on the tri-basicphosphate salt It has turned me into a very wide awake for the last two days fiend it is all gone now roughly 400mg a day guess my tolerance is higher than I thought probably a good thing my gram was under or I'd have 200mg left calling to me and be up another 12 hours. :)
Never craved anything like that before ever!
Walter White goes to iisthisisi to learn ;D
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I'm forever cursed by Rock n Roll. I was the youngest, and always wanted to be older, so I got into the stuff that came out when I was in diapers!
From Stones Beatles all the way up to RnR's last breath when Nirvana brought back Rock + Punk combined, and it was named Grunge, but really it was just RocknRoll. Same thing was punk. - My man Johnny Thunders (pic) - Is now called the Godfather of punk. - He HATED the term, he was like, "I ain't no punk, where I come from that's a guy in prison who takes it up the ass". - Johnny was never one to censor himself.
Just like my parents only want to hear Tommy Dorsey and Glen Miller, "Swing" music. God Bless 'em, almost 90! - I'll be stuck in my old world of Rock Music. I'm happy here. Can't listen to anything too electronic. I'll go as far as Todd Rundgren, a trailblazer who pioneered much of the way electronic music is made today.
Todd who?
LoL- take care! - Just got home, and I gotta find my CC stash! - Can't wait! - Did a 40mg capsule this morning. Didn't want to be all "sniff sniff" in front of people. Was the perfect dose for me! - Thanks again CC !
- Laytah!
I understand where you're coming from....however I was lucky enough to be brought up on the likes of Kraftwerk, Gary Newman etc, so my origins were in electronic. A very early adopter.
Now back to the topic at hand
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Hoping to receive the dibasic amphetamine phosphate from iisthisisi tomorrow :-)) Very curious after reading up other people's experiences, i have got a high tolerance though but i'll start out with 5 or 10mg and see where it brings me though. To be continued!
Good luck hope you have more willpower than I have had on the tri-basicphosphate salt It has turned me into a very wide awake for the last two days fiend it is all gone now roughly 400mg a day guess my tolerance is higher than I thought probably a good thing my gram was under or I'd have 200mg left calling to me and be up another 12 hours. :)
Never craved anything like that before ever!
Walter White goes to iisthisisi to learn ;D
How much did you dose when you took some? And did you snort or fill up a capsule?
*edit: just received my dibasic amph order! going to grab something to eat, take a shower and then try this stuff out! thanks iis :)))
*edit2: okay.. have taken 2 very small lines, and i have to agree with emilio on this stuff.. all i can say is
sorry but fucking "boom"
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its Friday afternoon. waiting for CC listings
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its Friday afternoon. waiting for CC listings
Blah, still waiting for my order from CC to arrive from his last listing. I see people are starting to receive theirs. I hope mine comes soon. The first time I ever ordered from CC it only took 7-8 days... I'm going on 16 days now. :-[
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You know its funny... everyone naturally refers to CC's as the strongest amp on SR, but what is it that makes it so popular? I mean when you compare some of the other super pure dry amp BM or IIS its actually much stronger than CC's ... What I mean is I need to do almost 2x as much of CC's than BM or IIS. BUUUTTT ..... CC's has a clean heady effect thats amazing where iis and bm are more of a body awake.
The other thing is that CC's doesnt effect my blood Pr, or even really my heartrate. but both BM and iis my BP and HR skyrocket
So why are such pure amp sulphates, all so different anyway?
ps. Just got a little of iis new dibasic phos so testing today... will report back later :)
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Hoping to receive the dibasic amphetamine phosphate from iisthisisi tomorrow :-)) Very curious after reading up other people's experiences, i have got a high tolerance though but i'll start out with 5 or 10mg and see where it brings me though. To be continued!
Good luck hope you have more willpower than I have had on the tri-basicphosphate salt It has turned me into a very wide awake for the last two days fiend it is all gone now roughly 400mg a day guess my tolerance is higher than I thought probably a good thing my gram was under or I'd have 200mg left calling to me and be up another 12 hours. :)
Never craved anything like that before ever!
Walter White goes to iisthisisi to learn ;D
How much did you dose when you took some? And did you snort or fill up a capsule?
*edit: just received my dibasic amph order! going to grab something to eat, take a shower and then try this stuff out! thanks iis :)))
*edit2: okay.. have taken 2 very small lines, and i have to agree with emilio on this stuff.. all i can say is
sorry but fucking "boom"
I parachuted 50mg wasn't enough for me I am getting on for 6ft 6" though and will need more than a 5 footer ;D
I snorted a 30 mg about 40 minutes later and then I could not leave it alone turned into a fiend until 40 odd hours later it had all gone and it was a relief as the hooter had , had enough as I found swallowing it gave me indigestion but snorting didn't.
Anyway no stims for me for at least 5 - 7 days just some benzos and a nice bit of hash going to give the old heart a rest.
Not craving it now having some lovely rushes up the spine still though but had 6 hours sleep and feel fine apart from a slight headache.
Going to get 2 grams d/l-amphetamine 70+% but this time I'll be armed with xanax that will stop me doing that again.
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You know its funny... everyone naturally refers to CC's as the strongest amp on SR, but what is it that makes it so popular? I mean when you compare some of the other super pure dry amp BM or IIS its actually much stronger than CC's ... What I mean is I need to do almost 2x as much of CC's than BM or IIS. BUUUTTT ..... CC's has a clean heady effect thats amazing where iis and bm are more of a body awake.
The other thing is that CC's doesnt effect my blood Pr, or even really my heartrate. but both BM and iis my BP and HR skyrocket
So why are such pure amp sulphates, all so different anyway?
ps. Just got a little of iis new dibasic phos so testing today... will report back later :)
Despite the fact he is one of the (if not the) most reliable, consistent, low-priced, and very strong quality-vendors for amph on the road? Before BM or CC were here, I was dealing with the likes of 100$/g amph phosphate from Jeurgen which was nowhere as pure. When BM and CC took off, we had several people test the purity of their product and CC was only a few percentages below BM's famous batch that made my heart nearly explode. Even BM isn't as consistent (he has switched formulas and I still believe he was selling another vendor's pink speed last time) over the course, which of course doesn't really matter but still.
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I parachuted 50mg wasn't enough for me I am getting on for 6ft 6" though and will need more than a 5 footer ;D
I snorted a 30 mg about 40 minutes later and then I could not leave it alone turned into a fiend until 40 odd hours later it had all gone and it was a relief as the hooter had , had enough as I found swallowing it gave me indigestion but snorting didn't.
Anyway no stims for me for at least 5 - 7 days just some benzos and a nice bit of hash going to give the old heart a rest.
Not craving it now having some lovely rushes up the spine still though but had 6 hours sleep and feel fine apart from a slight headache.
Going to get 2 grams d/l-amphetamine 70+% but this time I'll be armed with xanax that will stop me doing that again.
Hehehe i understand what you mean with the craving, having the same problem here. My tolerence is way above normal atm due to daily (ab)use, so i decided not to take any more as it's pretty intense stuff. damn, got my flying all over the place for the first 4 hours.. here's a little review.
Woke up this morning at 9 and had a normal breakfast, i think around 11am my package from iisthisisi arrived and i decided to wait till i had lunch and then take some of the dibasic amph phosphate. the phosphate is (tiny) crystal powder-ish stuff, a little bit sticky but not really wet. i've put some on a cd-cover to dry completely, and after 15-30 minutes i snorted about 50mg spread over 2 hours. it burns a bit when snorted, but oh well.. the taste isn't as horrible as alot of other amphetamine's i've taken in my life.
the rush i got in the first 2 hours (even though i have such a high tolerance) was insane. i'm still trying to figure out what i was doing or wanted to do, i've been bouncing up and down the house for a couple hours, haven't been that energetic for ages! tried to sit down and focus on making music but that was a no-go the first 2 hours (probably because i was still dosing at that time). i have not experienced any (notable) increase in heart rate, nor did my pupils dilate. Around 6pm i've had dinner, dosed a little more after that, now its 0:30am and i feel alright, still buzzing a bit but that'll cool down in a few.
in other words, amazing product :) i've had d-amph from iis somewhere in 2012, good stuff but the rush didn't come close to this product! thanks alot iisthisisi :) hope you've got enough in stock cause i'll be returning soon
i'll update on a "crash" if any occurs but i doubt that. by the way MrMates, do you get that xanax of the road? any suggestions for benzo vendors?
*boom*
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I dont know about you guys but Im haivng a hard time getting a handle on this dibasic! Did a tiny bit 2mg, and nothing... 4 more mg 30min later, nothing... did 12mg more 30min and my HR got real high and felt a bit spacy.... I cant tell if I like it or not yet, I guess its time for more :)
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Got some tri-basicphosphate amphetamine salt from iisthisisi on the way!
Can't wait to try it after I read reports of it here! :D
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I dont know about you guys but Im haivng a hard time getting a handle on this dibasic! Did a tiny bit 2mg, and nothing... 4 more mg 30min later, nothing... did 12mg more 30min and my HR got real high and felt a bit spacy.... I cant tell if I like it or not yet, I guess its time for more :)
I kind of had the same feeling, thats why i was dosing for like 2 hours. For myself, i think it was my body's tolerance, because the moment it hit me, it hit me good :)
Got some tri-basicphosphate amphetamine salt from iisthisisi on the way!
Can't wait to try it after I read reports of it here! :D
Hehehe veel plezier alvast ;)) ik denk dat ik morgen bij t stappen is een kleine capsule ga proberen, kijken of er verschil is..
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Maxhavelaar 94% purity (69%/73%) speed paste 2g $14.50 + $11.00 super stealth shipping
5/5 Shipping+Stealth
Wow! Great job. Tough to beat NL/US customs. So it's quite an achievement. Super fast shipping time after processing. Says right on profile, may take a few days to process- which it did, but when marked "in transit" Saturday, it took just 6 days! 3-4 day processing time is understandable, given the creative stealth necessary.
5/5 Quality
Good strong Dutch Paste! :P Decent rush on first two 10mg lines. Energetic, speedy stuff! Hit it a little more, maybe 20 mg. Feel calm now, good focus still.
5/5 Overall
Wet- it weighed about 2.75g - Dried to just over 1g after I'd done test lines, so I got more the 50% dry (over a gram completely dry). That's minus the lines I did! Nice stuff, and a healthy portion! For paste, it's definitely in the high percentage. That's with a high tolerance.
Anyway! :P
Damn Good Dutch Paste ! At $25.50 USD postage paid, for over 1gram once dry, it's a very good deal! - Max is back!
8) Chip 8)
Here's the listing for this;
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9d1e7b50d5
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Despite the fact he is one of the (if not the) most reliable, consistent, low-priced, and very strong quality-vendors for amph on the road? Before BM or CC were here, I was dealing with the likes of 100$/g amph phosphate from Jeurgen which was nowhere as pure. When BM and CC took off, we had several people test the purity of their product and CC was only a few percentages below BM's famous batch that made my heart nearly explode. Even BM isn't as consistent (he has switched formulas and I still believe he was selling another vendor's pink speed last time) over the course, which of course doesn't really matter but still.
To answer the question: the impurities make the difference, different route of synthesis, different precursors => different impurities will stay in the product. If you have 95%, I am guessing that cleaning it to 97-98% is just not worth the effort anymore.
No offense to CC, but it's proven not to be the strongest amph on the road, not even the cleanest. Both those titles go to isi. most reliable, consistent, low-priced, and very strong quality-vendor? isi. If you only knew what I have ordered and when, it's almost unbelievable everything came through within 3 days. Only one took a little longer and arrived on 24th of December. My last order with him wins the cleanest gear ever award, there was just no such thing as the usual body-load I get, like mini-cramps, twitches, ...
CC comes in as a strong second, I don't especially like the p2np speed and the body load, but it's still an awesome product. BM ruined it for me with the yellowish p2np(?) stuff and his unreliability. I hope the pink stuff is him going back to the roots, thus resulting in a brown batch we all loved so much. ISI, CC, BM are the only ones I would currently buy from.
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isi is not really cheap with 25€ for 1g.
looks like CC listings are delayed. its saturday already.
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isi is not really cheap with 25€ for 1g.
As an Australian, I find this hilarious.
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sucks to be an australian :P
isis amph is very good tho (the best i had) . it never gave me a bad comedown.
but CCs amph is quite cheaper and good aswell. so i wanna try it.
anyone know what happened ? doesnt look like the listings are coming up anytime soon.
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isi is not really cheap with 25€ for 1g.
looks like CC listings are delayed. its saturday already.
well look at it this way: you dont think its cheap? you like piss poor cheap Paste mixed up with whatever shit and active cuttings you can find? Ok then: take a gram of IIS stuff throw in half a gram coffeine and half a gram milksugar finish with a topping of 2g of your favorite solvent to poor it over and your done: 4g of probably still the best Paste you will ever find for 25€ if that isnt cheap then i dont know what is :)
Or in other words be thankful there are people doing and offering this kind of product when they probably could make 2 or 3 times the money with half the amount of time and effort put into it. Without Silk Road and these Vendors i would still be stuck on nasty Paste and i absolutely dont mind paying a reasonable price for high quality products. Welcome to free market economy where most are looking for "anything as long as its cheap" then wonder if they get shit, and where actual good quality is available in low quantity for those really looking for it but has its price accordingly (and looking at my example above it isnt even that high of a price to be honest)
P.S. unfortunately CC havent shown up for a while here and there was only a Customer that told us that CC told him that he will up his listings on friday but that has also been said from another customer for last monday already so i guess we wont know until he posts himself some reliable information.
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Got some tri-basicphosphate amphetamine salt from iisthisisi on the way!
Can't wait to try it after I read reports of it here! :D
Hehehe veel plezier alvast ;)) ik denk dat ik morgen bij t stappen is een kleine capsule ga proberen, kijken of er verschil is..
Haha bedankt! Ben alleen straat speed gewent wat bij lange na niet bij dit in de buurt komt qua zuiverhuid. Nog tips? :P
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Despite the fact he is one of the (if not the) most reliable, consistent, low-priced, and very strong quality-vendors for amph on the road? Before BM or CC were here, I was dealing with the likes of 100$/g amph phosphate from Jeurgen which was nowhere as pure. When BM and CC took off, we had several people test the purity of their product and CC was only a few percentages below BM's famous batch that made my heart nearly explode. Even BM isn't as consistent (he has switched formulas and I still believe he was selling another vendor's pink speed last time) over the course, which of course doesn't really matter but still.
To answer the question: the impurities make the difference, different route of synthesis, different precursors => different impurities will stay in the product. If you have 95%, I am guessing that cleaning it to 97-98% is just not worth the effort anymore.
No offense to CC, but it's proven not to be the strongest amph on the road, not even the cleanest. Both those titles go to isi. most reliable, consistent, low-priced, and very strong quality-vendor? isi. If you only knew what I have ordered and when, it's almost unbelievable everything came through within 3 days. Only one took a little longer and arrived on 24th of December. My last order with him wins the cleanest gear ever award, there was just no such thing as the usual body-load I get, like mini-cramps, twitches, ...
CC comes in as a strong second, I don't especially like the p2np speed and the body load, but it's still an awesome product. BM ruined it for me with the yellowish p2np(?) stuff and his unreliability. I hope the pink stuff is him going back to the roots, thus resulting in a brown batch we all loved so much. ISI, CC, BM are the only ones I would currently buy from.
So, because of you, i dont know if i choose CC or iisthisisi :)
iisthisisi has d/l-amphetamine 70+% and amphetamine tri-basicphosphate salt ? whats really the diference between those ? what gives more energy? what's better? i would really like to know
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iisthisisi has d/l-amphetamine 70+% and amphetamine tri-basicphosphate salt ? whats really the diference between those ? what gives more energy? what's better? i would really like to know
Those questions are easy to find an answer to. Just try reading through the last 3-5 pages of this thread! It is filled with reviews for the phosphate.
I am not trying to be a dick here, but I wish people would use just 5 minutes to look for the answer to their questions before posting them! Is that really to much to ask.?
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iisthisisi has d/l-amphetamine 70+% and amphetamine tri-basicphosphate salt ? whats really the diference between those ? what gives more energy? what's better? i would really like to know
Those questions are easy to find an answer to. Just try reading through the last 3-5 pages of this thread! It is filled with reviews for the phosphate.
I am not trying to be a dick here, but I wish people would use just 5 minutes to look for the answer to their questions before posting them! Is that really to much to ask.?
i am following this thread for several days buddy. I have now re-read the last pages ( not all all.. but you know, "reading" )
Yes, there are alot of reviews. But i haven't ask for reviews. Theonly thing that people say between the differences is that one hits more stronger than other to some people, another one gives headache on the comedown etc etc .
i dont know what to choose. CC is actually with the lists down and ships from south africa. iSs ships from E.U , but have 2 diferent types of speed that i dont know what do choose. But ISS seems a little dangerous, there are at least 2 reports saying that their hearts almost exploded .
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what i like about the isis . it feels very clean. if you keep good nutrition ,being well rested and hydrated you literally will have no sides and bad comedown. you just start feeling tired and thats it.
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Today I'm sampling Haizenberg's paste I got free of charge.
It arrived 9 days after shipping so I'm pretty happy after my first purchase with him when I got nothing.
My review is not very accurate cause I didn't weight the bag before drying, I never had paste before, and I'm not an heavy speed user. I tryed only CC's here.
It was watery and now after 20 hours still is wet but water is gone and the paste consolidated in some nice chuncks with a very light smelling of chemical and wet paint. After drying I got 50/60% of the bag but it's still wet. As an example if I work too hard with a card to make lines the paste can stick to the table. But I don't like nasal administration and prefer ingesting.
After a night shift on Modafinil with no sleep I had two 5mg Rizla bombs and was very active for 4/5 hours (the first at 7:30 the second a couple hours later). Clean head (as far as it could be after the job), happy feeling and no need to sleep or eat. Then I forced myself to eat some food and went to sleep.
I have to say it's my first time having paste but I like this one.
Haizenbers shipped the parcel the day after I placed my order and the stealth imho was remarkable tough not involving MBB.
There are no picture on H's product page, but after all it's not so different from maxhavelaar's (max's speed appears just a bit more dry on picture but I think what you get is wet as well).
If maxhavelaar's speed is clean as this one seems to me, his one is cheaper.
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iisthisisi has d/l-amphetamine 70+% and amphetamine tri-basicphosphate salt ? whats really the diference between those ? what gives more energy? what's better? i would really like to know
Those questions are easy to find an answer to. Just try reading through the last 3-5 pages of this thread! It is filled with reviews for the phosphate.
I am not trying to be a dick here, but I wish people would use just 5 minutes to look for the answer to their questions before posting them! Is that really to much to ask.?
Well, I can't seem to find a definitive answer and I've searched this thread....
I digress, I have here 2 grams of iisthisisi's d/l here ready for next Friday night, I am a regular social user (3-4 years) I have tried Junkiexxl's stuff and it wasn't too bad, maybe not the 95%+ as claimed but still some pretty strong decent gear.
50mg and repeat as necessary? Or 100mg and go for it? :P
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I have been fortunate enough to try multiple batches of CC's, BM's and now iisthisisi. The bi-phos I wanted to try because of concern of a sulfa sensitivity? It may be my new favorite. Great clear high with little to no physical side effects. I would believe the 72%, which the biphos seems about 30% stronger than CC's (My previous gold standard)***Caution dosing*** start 30% lower than your other amp. Iisthi's sulfate 70%+ seems to be on par with CC's, with physical sensations.....sometimes a good thing.
All three types (2iis 1cc) recently received are all brilliant white. The biphos is very sparkly. For respect for my nose, throat, and especially teeth I only consume with a capsule. I will update once trying CC's new white white batch ;D
I keep thinking it can't get any better then it does. Thank you to our master chemists.
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More amphetamine required. 6 Days of being Norman the Bored man.
Visiting thread for placebo high.
Visiting thread for placebo high bad idea. Now jealous. you are all bastard people with amphetamine when I am without.
I hate you all.
p.s. do not visit amphetamine thread for placebo high.
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Yesterday I did iisthisisi amph, and this shit is awsome :O. I have never have a such a nice speed high and like caffeine_me sayd above "Great clear high with little to no physical side effects".
btw what do you guize use if you have made an speed and need to get to sleep? xanax(if how many mg)? I thinking to buy something, but dont know what :/. Id like to hear other speed users opinion
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I used to do diazepam (10mg at first) or oxazepam (50mg at first) which did the trick for me. Just be careful with benzo's, as combining uppers & downers is never a real good idea and they can be highly addictive.
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So, has anyone tried Haizenberg's speed? Is it quality?
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So, has anyone tried Haizenberg's speed? Is it quality?
Don't know yet he had a free gram listing - don't know if it is still going but hopefully it will get here fine and as part of the deal I got to post a review so can tell you then.
It seems to get decent reviews though so I'm sure it will be fine.
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Yesterday I did iisthisisi amph, and this shit is awsome :O. I have never have a such a nice speed high and like caffeine_me sayd above "Great clear high with little to no physical side effects".
btw what do you guize use if you have made an speed and need to get to sleep? xanax(if how many mg)? I thinking to buy something, but dont know what :/. Id like to hear other speed users opinion
Hard to say I need 30 mg valium but have been buying benzos for ten years most I'll ever take is twice in one week so don't know if you have tolerance or not.
But 10mg is no good for me don't take them every day though I'm a very tall person so always needed a bit more than other people don't think 10 mg ever worked on me that much.
When I first took a xanax it was 1mg found 2mg was my level though but depends on quality of pill of course I don't take them much though haven't found the right vendor yet on here like I have for the valiums.
I have done some speed now but going to just let nature take its course , going to go into work if I get tired lots of strong coffee and a natural sleep later.
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More amphetamine required. 6 Days of being Norman the Bored man.
Visiting thread for placebo high.
Visiting thread for placebo high bad idea. Now jealous. you are all bastard people with amphetamine when I am without.
I hate you all.
p.s. do not visit amphetamine thread for placebo high.
I'd rate you up if I could for your 6 days abstinence and give you a karma high going to be good for your tolerance anyway looking on the bright side of things ;D
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Yesterday I did iisthisisi amph, and this shit is awsome :O. I have never have a such a nice speed high and like caffeine_me sayd above "Great clear high with little to no physical side effects".
btw what do you guize use if you have made an speed and need to get to sleep? xanax(if how many mg)? I thinking to buy something, but dont know what :/. Id like to hear other speed users opinion
i use seroquel (given by doctors to children who overdose on ritalin (methylphenidate) and adderall (amphetamine)) but i try my best to avoid it if i can. it's really only useful to avoid the shitty feeling of the comedown and it will let u pass out for the remainder of the speed high and then u can start your legitimate 8hrs of real sleep. i only take it if i use the speed to pull an all-nighter for an assignment or to study for an exam. using a benzo or seroquel to "sleep" on speed will not actually give you real sleep, you'll just be able to lay down and not deal with the rest of the high, you won't get legitimate, refreshing sleep until your body metabolizes the drug.
i'm no doctor but this is just based on my personal experience so take it with a grain of salt, but seroquel is generally considered better for "sleeping" on speed than benzos from my personal research. also it's cheaper than xanax.
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Use a benzo. Seroquel is an anti-psychotic med. Never heard of the whole kiddie rittie OD thing, but I'm sure there's anecdotal stories out there. If anything that's an "off-label" use.
Benzo's wll give you a restful sleep. IMHO as well
Most any, but for me? 10mg Valium if you can find real ones. Most on here that say 10mg Roche - are from Pakistan and are of varying strengths. Some feel like maybe there's some Diazepam in there, others feel awful, like Ultram(tramadol). These are the blister packs too. Look at the reviews, and make sure the people are satisfied with the product. - I know of only a few good benzo dealers, that goes for Xanax too. A lot of bootleg shit out there.
Good Luck
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Benzo's wll give you a restful sleep. IMHO as well
Actually they won't. Benzos inhibit REM sleep so you can't really consider it restful. Of course it's still more restful than not sleeping at all. I have really vivid and disturbingly weird dreams when I sleep on Xanax. Not really relaxing. Even had a lucid dream for the first time a couple of days ago where I willingly changed the scene from some kind of room to somewhere on a beach. Pretty cool.. Unfortunately that it worked got me kinda excited and I woke up right away -_-
Benzos with strong sedative effects like flunitrazepam also don't let you sleep, they send you right into sopor ("2nd degree of unconsciousness") when you take enough. So you also won't experience those dreams ;)
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Most any, but for me? 10mg Valium if you can find real ones. Most on here that say 10mg Roche - are from Pakistan and are of varying strengths. Some feel like maybe there's some Diazepam in there, others feel awful, like Ultram(tramadol). These are the blister packs too. Look at the reviews, and make sure the people are satisfied with the product. - I know of only a few good benzo dealers, that goes for Xanax too. A lot of bootleg shit out there.
Which benzo vendor would you recommend, if i may ask? :)
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Which benzo vendor would you recommend, if i may ask? :)
You didn't ask me but I'll answer anyway :D
For Xanax I really recommend Caslava. (S)He sells powder or 1mg blotters, both are great value. Stealth is extremely awesome and after ordering on a Tuesday around noon I held the blotters in my hand on Thursday (Czech Rep to Germany). Should be about the same for you assuming you're from benelux.
Powder is about half the price of blotters but when you want to measure the powder reliably it doesn't come much cheaper in the end.
edit: Wow this really sounds like I'm advertising... Sorry, guess I'm a fanboy :D
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Most any, but for me? 10mg Valium if you can find real ones. Most on here that say 10mg Roche - are from Pakistan and are of varying strengths. Some feel like maybe there's some Diazepam in there, others feel awful, like Ultram(tramadol). These are the blister packs too. Look at the reviews, and make sure the people are satisfied with the product. - I know of only a few good benzo dealers, that goes for Xanax too. A lot of bootleg shit out there.
Which benzo vendor would you recommend, if i may ask? :)
I use the Black Tuna Gang for his blue valiums he ships worldwide , look at his reviews from his customers it tells its own story.
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Received IIS Phosphate today in record time. Damn i love this guy anyone who haven't tried either his Sulphate or Phosphate go order today no matter which of those you wont regret it!
Product is straight fire.
Shipping time cant get any better.
Packaging even improved after Feedback (no more scratching out is all i'm sayin')
Regarding the Downers, i never took ANY downers in about 2 1/2 years of on and off phases (~1-3 month use then ~1-3 month breaks usually) except Ganja sometimes. Just be reasonable, think about your biological electrolytes, drink a lot of water, take supplements (calcium/magnesium/vitamines) and most important start/stop to dose in time to be able to sleep. And if you still cant sleep you know why and take it like a men, when you finally fall asleep its at least real sleep in the end. I know it can be hard sometimes lying in bed for hours without being able to sleep but you will at least get some minor rest from doing so if you relax and accept the fact that you cant force yourself to sleep anyway (i imagine this is getting way harder to do once you actually used downers to fall asleep and consequently you will keep using them because hey you can force yourself to sleep in the end so why not do it). I'm not a fan of Upper/Downer cycles if you wanna get UP then also man up afterwards to the "getting down" in my opinion. I am pretty sure you are not doing yourself a favor on medium and long terms if you manipulate your body chemistry even further then you did with Amphetamine already anyway.
greetings and take care everyone (and try IISTHISISI if you havent by now ;) )
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So, has anyone tried Haizenberg's speed? Is it quality?
I didn't tried before, but I was very tried and after snorted I danced all night, didn't sleep neither 'till night after ...
review with pics soon.
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Which benzo vendor would you recommend, if i may ask? :)
You didn't ask me but I'll answer anyway :D
For Xanax I really recommend Caslava. (S)He sells powder or 1mg blotters, both are great value. Stealth is extremely awesome and after ordering on a Tuesday around noon I held the blotters in my hand on Thursday (Czech Rep to Germany). Should be about the same for you assuming you're from benelux.
Powder is about half the price of blotters but when you want to measure the powder reliably it doesn't come much cheaper in the end.
edit: Wow this really sounds like I'm advertising... Sorry, guess I'm a fanboy :D
They sure do look a great vendor.
Not sure about putting anything alprazolam tasting under the tongue though in a blotter disgusting tasting stuff.
Thing my tongue might fall off ;D
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Hope my d/l-amphetamine from the great man gets here by the weekend.
On a break from stims until it gets here and this time going to have self control and measure out how much I'm going to do at a time and not go on an almighty binge and stay up for 2 1/2 days fiending. ;D
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Most any, but for me? 10mg Valium if you can find real ones. Most on here that say 10mg Roche - are from Pakistan and are of varying strengths. Some feel like maybe there's some Diazepam in there, others feel awful, like Ultram(tramadol). These are the blister packs too. Look at the reviews, and make sure the people are satisfied with the product. - I know of only a few good benzo dealers, that goes for Xanax too. A lot of bootleg shit out there.
Which benzo vendor would you recommend, if i may ask? :)
I use the Black Tuna Gang for his blue valiums he ships worldwide , look at his reviews from his customers it tells its own story.
Spot on, Mr.Mates. And if you're looking for klonopin/xanax, Maligan simply cannot be beat. Prices, stealth, comms, the whole 9. Always just under 9 days or so to the states. Impeccable quality on the Frontin Xanax too.
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So, has anyone tried Haizenberg's speed? Is it quality?
I didn't tried before, but I was very tried and after snorted I danced all night, didn't sleep neither 'till night after ...
review with pics soon.
Sounds cool :)
How much did you snort?
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Most any, but for me? 10mg Valium if you can find real ones. Most on here that say 10mg Roche - are from Pakistan and are of varying strengths. Some feel like maybe there's some Diazepam in there, others feel awful, like Ultram(tramadol). These are the blister packs too. Look at the reviews, and make sure the people are satisfied with the product. - I know of only a few good benzo dealers, that goes for Xanax too. A lot of bootleg shit out there.
Which benzo vendor would you recommend, if i may ask? :)
I use the Black Tuna Gang for his blue valiums he ships worldwide , look at his reviews from his customers it tells its own story.
Spot on, Mr.Mates. And if you're looking for klonopin/xanax, Maligan simply cannot be beat. Prices, stealth, comms, the whole 9. Always just under 9 days or so to the states. Impeccable quality on the Frontin Xanax too.
I don't take klonopin years ago I used to get these Indian chewy banana flavoured ones even though I try to keep my tolerance as low as possible so never gett addicted they really fogged my mind up even though I had not taken one for days so decided not to take them anymore.
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yeah, mates, i can hear that. Also, from my experience, i've only ordered twice from india, but shit took forever and a day, orders were fucked up beyond all recognition, and even though shit was blister packed cipla or whatever, variance of quality and quantity of active ingredient from pill to pill fluctuated wildly. No more india pharms. lol. Give Maligan's white k-pins a try...they are the bee's knees for sure. Can't beat the price with a stick.
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They sure do look a great vendor.
Not sure about putting anything alprazolam tasting under the tongue though in a blotter disgusting tasting stuff.
Thing my tongue might fall off ;D
You can just swallow them like pills. I do them sublingually though, I don't mind it... If you keep it there long enough you don't taste anything at all. It cannot be compared to having a pill under your tongue because you drool far less with the blotters ;)
But maybe I'm just resistant to bad taste. I also tried BM's waxy batch sublingually a couple of times and it is in fact quite disgusting when you don't hang in there until it was all absorbed. It's quite a commitment ;) Candy or soda will ease your suffering though :) And I was surprised that amphetamine seems to actually have a slight numbing effect. Didn't know.
On a break from stims until it gets here and this time going to have self control and measure out how much I'm going to do at a time and not go on an almighty binge and stay up for 2 1/2 days fiending. ;D
I use an Excel sheet to keep track of my benzo use. Really supports my guilty conscience and made me realize that I in fact have been raising dosage and frequency without really being aware of it.
edit: Don't know why I need to say this now, but: I enjoy being here, thank you guys for being awesome! :)
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They sure do look a great vendor.
Not sure about putting anything alprazolam tasting under the tongue though in a blotter disgusting tasting stuff.
Thing my tongue might fall off ;D
You can just swallow them like pills. I do them sublingually though, I don't mind it... If you keep it there long enough you don't taste anything at all. It cannot be compared to having a pill under your tongue because you drool far less with the blotters ;)
But maybe I'm just resistant to bad taste. I also tried BM's waxy batch sublingually a couple of times and it is in fact quite disgusting when you don't hang in there until it was all absorbed. It's quite a commitment ;) Candy or soda will ease your suffering though :) And I was surprised that amphetamine seems to actually have a slight numbing effect. Didn't know.
On a break from stims until it gets here and this time going to have self control and measure out how much I'm going to do at a time and not go on an almighty binge and stay up for 2 1/2 days fiending. ;D
I use an Excel sheet to keep track of my benzo use. Really supports my guilty conscience and made me realize that I in fact have been raising dosage and frequency without really being aware of it.
edit: Don't know why I need to say this now, but: I enjoy being here, thank you guys for being awesome! :)
Great call there, kybzsmrf. Excel spreadsheet is the way to go when navigating the murky waters of benzo consumption. +1 karma for candor and just excellence in general.
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Can anyone help me out about the ICE pills?
About 2 years ago I got 5 and popped all of em in a 4-6 hours spacing. It was a sudden surge of awake and intense focus. Total tunnel vision.
Euphoria seemed to kick in but it never "peaked" hence my dumb move to pop all of em expecting some kind of euphoria similar to adderall or other ADHD medication. The tests done on pill reports around that time showed it was only amphetamine. So my question is did they just start adding meth to it not too long ago?
I admit it was one of the best clean tweak and non jittery energy and focus but seeing that I took like 5 times the recommended dose in a course of a very short time I was still able to sleep not too long after. As in maybe another 6-8 hours after.
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They sure do look a great vendor.
Not sure about putting anything alprazolam tasting under the tongue though in a blotter disgusting tasting stuff.
Thing my tongue might fall off ;D
You can just swallow them like pills. I do them sublingually though, I don't mind it... If you keep it there long enough you don't taste anything at all. It cannot be compared to having a pill under your tongue because you drool far less with the blotters ;)
But maybe I'm just resistant to bad taste. I also tried BM's waxy batch sublingually a couple of times and it is in fact quite disgusting when you don't hang in there until it was all absorbed. It's quite a commitment ;) Candy or soda will ease your suffering though :) And I was surprised that amphetamine seems to actually have a slight numbing effect. Didn't know.
On a break from stims until it gets here and this time going to have self control and measure out how much I'm going to do at a time and not go on an almighty binge and stay up for 2 1/2 days fiending. ;D
I use an Excel sheet to keep track of my benzo use. Really supports my guilty conscience and made me realize that I in fact have been raising dosage and frequency without really being aware of it.
edit: Don't know why I need to say this now, but: I enjoy being here, thank you guys for being awesome! :)
I really like the speedy thread too it is good in here my favourite thread I have always been a stimulant man though so bound to spend my time in here ;D
Browsed the coke thread too and the two top vendors stuff was excellent but it will sure eat your money up getting a taste for that.
30 mg is my valium tolerance I'm well over 6ft and been taking valium for ten years so I'm happy with that amount and the last time I took any was Saturday and won't be taking any today. I think when I first ever took any it took 20 mg but of course you never know how exact they are so I just take 3 blues and that's it.
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Use a benzo. Seroquel is an anti-psychotic med. Never heard of the whole kiddie rittie OD thing, but I'm sure there's anecdotal stories out there. If anything that's an "off-label" use.
Benzo's wll give you a restful sleep. IMHO as well
Most any, but for me? 10mg Valium if you can find real ones. Most on here that say 10mg Roche - are from Pakistan and are of varying strengths. Some feel like maybe there's some Diazepam in there, others feel awful, like Ultram(tramadol). These are the blister packs too. Look at the reviews, and make sure the people are satisfied with the product. - I know of only a few good benzo dealers, that goes for Xanax too. A lot of bootleg shit out there.
Good Luck
one question.. if you ( or anyone else here ) snorth the speed.. and talking about like 12hours partying hard, how much time (+/- ) after the last sniff can you sleep ?
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I just wanted to share this experience with you all.
I recently started to take astaxanthin, this is a very powerful antioxidant and I noticed something I didn't expect at all.
After a couple of lines of the phosphate I realized that it isn't as powerful as without antioxidants.
I toke around 30 mg at 10 PM and could already sleep at 4 AM. This really surprised me. Also the high was a lot less intense than I'm used too.
I usually take amph around twice a month, always low on dosage so the tolerance should be low IMO.
Just wanted to share this, maybe if you take it you'd be able to sleep and throw out the benzos.
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i am following this thread for several days buddy. I have now re-read the last pages ( not all all.. but you know, "reading" )
Yes, there are alot of reviews. But i haven't ask for reviews. Theonly thing that people say between the differences is that one hits more stronger than other to some people, another one gives headache on the comedown etc etc .
i dont know what to choose. CC is actually with the lists down and ships from south africa. iSs ships from E.U , but have 2 diferent types of speed that i dont know what do choose. But ISS seems a little dangerous, there are at least 2 reports saying that their hearts almost exploded .
I guess its your first time amp? or at least on quality stuff? Your seriously over thinking it man. Even us rather experiences users have a difficult time telling one pure batch form other top vendors. Im talking about only the truly great ones... Your heart isnt going to explode unless you overdose for YOUR tolerance, if you get some gear youve not used ALWAYS start off WAY small and work small amounts up, and just dont overdue it.
Ive been working through iis phosphate and his Sulph for a while now, after coming directly over from CC white goodness. Its REALLY hard to crown one of them champ and everyone will have their personal fav.
For me CC's provides by far the strongest "head" high and focus of the lot, seems very much like adderall or a more d-amp experience with very little body load. Sometime I love the heady high from CC's and other times its kinda annoying when I just want to stay alert/awake and be clear headed.
iis sulphate seems to be probably the cleanest experience ive ever had with amp, seems a touch stronger than CC's with good wakefulness and clarity. This stuff I can function on all day at work and not miss a beat! Now the iis phos is kinda similar to his sulpahte with maybe a bit more heady focus, stronger of course and main difference for you sniffers is that its probably rather similar in snorting molten lava would feel like! Maybe Im just not used to insuf whatever...
BM's last batch btw holds a special place for me, that shit got me lit in a hurry. I describe it as more of a dirty amp, only amp that can make me actually start sweating and turning red! But damn did it have a pleasant high LOL
I wouldn't hesitate to get any one of the three, whatever available another words... I was confident that CC was my personal fav, but the more I work through iss sulf Im just more impressed everyday. Ideally Id keep both on hand for different purposes :)
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I just wanted to share this experience with you all.
I recently started to take astaxanthin, this is a very powerful antioxidant and I noticed something I didn't expect at all.
After a couple of lines of the phosphate I realized that it isn't as powerful as without antioxidants.
I toke around 30 mg at 10 PM and could already sleep at 4 AM. This really surprised me. Also the high was a lot less intense than I'm used too.
I usually take amph around twice a month, always low on dosage so the tolerance should be low IMO.
Just wanted to share this, maybe if you take it you'd be able to sleep and throw out the benzos.
Thanks for sharing this, also if it's a powerful and healty supplement.
Didn't you say your new phospate was better to be taken orallt than snorted? Maybe I'm wrong but it's weeks I want to ask you this question, and everyone say they snort it (IIRC you posted you got just a milligram or so and that was better to be taken orally in that form).
ok thanks!
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Ordered from Heizenberg 2g amphetamine:
Yellow colored (mostly P2NP leftover),it's wet and reeks like juicy cunt. LOL
A lot of mass (cca.40-60%) was lost due the drying but product is unbelievable!
High is super smooth,clean and natural. Was high whole day from half a teaspoon orally.
(<50mg)
Intense antidepressant effect,focus,alertness and also waves of pleasures go trough your body for hours with no standard unpleasant side-effects like teeth grinding,dry mouth etc.
As good as any meth I ever saw or made,including my famous 99% completely transparent dextro-only shards of glass size of the knife.
This must be near pure d-amphetamine!
I definitely recommend and will be back for more! Great stealth+double vacuum!
In future,I only wish you do few acetone washes to remove yellow crap (not healthy,potentially carcinogenic!!!) It's piss easy and cheap process to make noticeable better product.
Acetone or nitromethane washes/dissolves that colored shit but leaves amphetAMINE
(cus of -amine part) intact even if wet. And at least partially dry it a bit before packing.You will get 85%+ white product that way.
I repeat,it's super WET but astonishing product! Jewel that needs just a bit polishing! ;-)
Buy it while you can!
P.S.: This is review from Dr. of Organic Chemistry and someone who can (and mostly did) "cook" ANYTHING available on the SR!
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one question.. if you ( or anyone else here ) snorth the speed.. and talking about like 12hours partying hard, how much time (+/- ) after the last sniff can you sleep ?
depends, can be different every time for every one. depends on how one reacts on the amph, his/her tolerance, the quality of the amph. it's pretty unpredictable, just try to sleep whenever you feel like sleeping and when you find out you can't, don't stress yourself too much, try to see it as extra time to do stuff or whatever :)
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Use a benzo. Seroquel is an anti-psychotic med. Never heard of the whole kiddie rittie OD thing, but I'm sure there's anecdotal stories out there. If anything that's an "off-label" use.
and benzos are an anti-anxiety med (not a "sleep on amphetamine" med) so i don't really see your point.
Benzo's wll give you a restful sleep. IMHO as well
i hope nobody actually believes this at all. any of these sleeping pills - be it xanax, seroquel, or anything else - will NOT give you real, legitimate sleep if you normally would be awake on amphetamine. the best it can do is allow you to lay down and feel like you're asleep for the remainder of the comedown of the drug, and then and only then will your body be able to have legitimate rest to recharge and recover your brain. if you choose to take one of these sleeping pills instead because you took too much amphetamine or took a dose too late to sleep, and you "wake up" 8hrs later and take more amphetamine (because you feel tired/groggy) you're on track to subjecting yourself to a terrible upper/downer cycle and you'd be an utter fool to assume that long-term use of this combination isn't going to cause damage to your brain.
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Howdy guys
Received from LGcutivo and I'm very impressed!
Stealth was top notch but no MBB was used, only normal vac-seal. Had to look twice to realize that it had arrived so very well done there!
Product is off white, very slightly damp and has all the characteristics of high quality amp sulphate.
Will update after proper road test but very impressed so far! Just what was needed with current vendor circumstances.
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This is a review of CTM's methamphetamine.
I paid for my own drugs and this review was unsolicited. This review is targeted at people who intermittently enjoy low oral doses of amphetamines.
CTM is offering 250mg samples at a reasonable price with free shipping. My order arrived in four days.
Packaging was fine. No gimmicks but the essentials were there:
- Multiple layers
- MBB
- Externally, package was professional and would blend in with your mail, especially if you live on EBay like I do.
The product weighed in at .24g, which I'm sure is within the margin of error for my scale.
This is a clear, colorless, crystal substance. No powder, just shards.
Using the water dilution technique (100mg in 20cc of water) I took 5mg orally. I found this to be very clean. A little bit of bruxism over the first 30 minutes which rapidly resolved. Little if any body load. Psycholigically, I felt clear-headed, not manicky. Not particularly euphoric, either.
Comment:
I'm pretty much of a lightweight; YMMV.
For my uses, I could learn to like this stuff. Dexedrine is normally my drug of choice, and I use it the way most people do, I guess. To improve focus, alleviate fatigue, for fun sometimes, always in moderation.
5mg of CTM's gear strikes me as being more or less equivalent to 5mg of dexedrine in terms of neuropsychiatric effects, and peripheral side effects Way fewer side effects than amphetamine sulfate. Stimulation is about like 200mg of Provigil but it's a tad more fun.
Meth has an awful reputation, but there was a time when it was prescribed to children for ADD, and some felt it was superior to Dexedrine (which was in common use at the time) and it's gotta be better than Adderall, which I feel is basically a crap product with good marketing. Sure it's addictive. All these substances are. Know thyself.
CTM advertises this as pharmaceutical grade. Is this puffery? I don't know. The way I take amphetamines, it's close enough I think.
If you choose to use meth, I think CTM deserves consideration as a vendor.
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Post it in the meth thread. Most people in this thread don't particularly care for meth. It's a mistake to interchange meth and regular amph sulphate.
Being on and off sulphate I've been able to live a good quality life. With meth I'd be homeless right now and probably look like totez ass and not a normal person. (I've done meth twice or so.... Gotta love the NOT EVEN ONCE ADS. FOr me it was uh no, I gotta check this out and see if it really is as destructive as it seems.... nyep. don't need this shit)
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This is a review of CTM's methamphetamine.
I paid for my own drugs and this review was unsolicited. This review is targeted at people who intermittently enjoy low oral doses of amphetamines.
CTM is offering 250mg samples at a reasonable price with free shipping. My order arrived in four days.
Packaging was fine. No gimmicks but the essentials were there:
- Multiple layers
- MBB
- Externally, package was professional and would blend in with your mail, especially if you live on EBay like I do.
The product weighed in at .24g, which I'm sure is within the margin of error for my scale.
This is a clear, colorless, crystal substance. No powder, just shards.
Using the water dilution technique (100mg in 20cc of water) I took 5mg orally. I found this to be very clean. A little bit of bruxism over the first 30 minutes which rapidly resolved. Little if any body load. Psycholigically, I felt clear-headed, not manicky. Not particularly euphoric, either.
Comment:
I'm pretty much of a lightweight; YMMV.
For my uses, I could learn to like this stuff. Dexedrine is normally my drug of choice, and I use it the way most people do, I guess. To improve focus, alleviate fatigue, for fun sometimes, always in moderation.
5mg of CTM's gear strikes me as being more or less equivalent to 5mg of dexedrine in terms of neuropsychiatric effects, and peripheral side effects Way fewer side effects than amphetamine sulfate. Stimulation is about like 200mg of Provigil but it's a tad more fun.
Meth has an awful reputation, but there was a time when it was prescribed to children for ADD, and some felt it was superior to Dexedrine (which was in common use at the time) and it's gotta be better than Adderall, which I feel is basically a crap product with good marketing. Sure it's addictive. All these substances are. Know thyself.
CTM advertises this as pharmaceutical grade. Is this puffery? I don't know. The way I take amphetamines, it's close enough I think.
If you choose to use meth, I think CTM deserves consideration as a vendor.
Henry, a great review...and thank you!
I occasionally dabble in Meth, however bored long nights of fidgeting around until sunrise isn't my cup of tea. Funny, I have started accumulating Meth from many places and sort of cellar it, so to speak, to pulled out at future occasions.
The Meth Thread is full of reviews, yet they fluctuate in accordance to the state of mind of the posting forum member.....a more sober review from a more objective orientated perspective is refreshing....especially one versed in Amps.
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My iisthisisi order arrived sure is a pleasure to release escrow for him ;D
Always makes me laugh the tiddly little lines I have to do for his top quality product ;D
iisthisisi may have just become my favourite vendor on this site with what he said to me in a pm.
I think he just surpassed my oxy guy when I sometimes use them who always gives me between 40 and 50 percent extra pills on every order :D
Hear that Liston real oxys and extras not your shite chalk with morphine :)
I'll expect my obligatory -1's from you and your crew :)
But chew one 20mg real oxy nod for 5 hours don't take again for pretty much a week chew 20mg same thing again nodding and dreamy state no headaches.
One week later take half a 20 mg of listons 40 mg nothing , chew another 20mg not much try another 20mg bit drowsy for an hour massive headache.
Still got a pill left if anyone has the means to test it see what is in it 40mg oxy oc. been hanging about a few months though in a air tight container don't know if that would have any bearing on test.
I'd not give it to anyone who would chew it snort it or anything I don't want that in your body I had a massive headache so you don't have too.
Maybe it is a real oxy different formula be interesting to know though there is something in it other people said morphine.
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I just wanted to share this experience with you all.
I recently started to take astaxanthin, this is a very powerful antioxidant and I noticed something I didn't expect at all.
After a couple of lines of the phosphate I realized that it isn't as powerful as without antioxidants.
I toke around 30 mg at 10 PM and could already sleep at 4 AM. This really surprised me. Also the high was a lot less intense than I'm used too.
I usually take amph around twice a month, always low on dosage so the tolerance should be low IMO.
Just wanted to share this, maybe if you take it you'd be able to sleep and throw out the benzos.
Alittle suprised you didn't know this but things like vitamin c, citrus fruits etc helps the body clean itself from amph and antacids can make amph absorb more effectively and stay longer in the body. Vitamin C or fruit juice before bed is quite common practice for medicinal amph patients.
If anyone is thinking of experimenting with this please take extreme precaution as it can be VERY dangerous playing with the pH/acidity in your body.
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Alittle suprised you didn't know this but things like vitamin c, citrus fruits etc helps the body clean itself from amph
Alcohol makes me pretty wasted that doesn't mean water will do the same. Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) and astaxanthin don't have anything in common.
According to this http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/jf101689t Astaxanthin inhibits the release of glutamate. In rats at least ;). Glutamate is a strong excitatory neurotransmitter so having less of that could be responsible for lowering amphetamine effects.
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Thanks for correcting me. Seems quite right. Appears I did some too quick cave man assumptions something like "antioxidants are just stuff like fruits n berries which are the same parts you use to build vitamin c over at the nutrient factory!". Still the assumption that strong antioxidants affect the stomach/blood pH doesn't sound too off for me but your explanation makes miles better sense.
Another thing about the sleepers:
Benzos/Alcohol seem like stated earlier to prevent the body from entering the deep sleep even if they can make you knocked out not easy to wake thus are not a very good option recovering from amph use.
Lyrica (Pregablin) or GHB seem to actually make it easier to reach deep sleep and get a high quality rest. However ghb and lyrica addiction & withdrawal seem even more terrifying than benzos/alcohol and the death risk if overdosing or mixing with other downers even bigger.
So the rule of not using so much that you will need downers to rest is good advice for anyone who cares about their health.
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Talking of alcohol I could out drink Oliver Reed in his prime while on amphet as long as I could keep bumping it every 30 mins - hour.
Good way to make some money drinking competitions as long as they are not a speed fiend too. ;D
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Alittle suprised you didn't know this but things like vitamin c, citrus fruits etc helps the body clean itself from amph
Alcohol makes me pretty wasted that doesn't mean water will do the same. Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) and astaxanthin don't have anything in common.
maybe the point in common is they are both antioxidants but I think Maria can argument way better than me on what she means.
:)
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Damn I'm rambling on here think I better go somewhere else and ramble on.
I'm whizzing of my tits so do excuse my blatherings :)
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Lol MrMates.. Looks like that stuff is working out for ya ;D
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Hehe it is still working but that last post I just wanted to type lol
I have sure bent some people ears today including iisthisisi with more than likely ramblings but it is his fault anyhow. ;D
Have a +1 for daring to post to a rambling idiot like me. ;D
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Hehehe, i was kinda on the same level today so i know how ya feel ;D I try not to post anything on a forum anymore when i'm on a roll, as 99% of all posts turn out to be complete rubbish (while some took me hours to write...)
I've compared both of iis his/their amphetamine's this week, the di-basic phosphate has a nice clean high and made me sleep "well", while the dl-amph is so much more active. I don't know which i like the most as they pretty much have completely different effects imo.
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d/l-amphetamine is what I'm on today it is a full body load if I had to dig a ditch I'd be on this.
tri-basicphosphate salt did not give me much body load but really high in the head and the craving I had was crazy never felt a craving like it going to buy this again next but control myself this time and not stat up 48 -50 hours and doing the whole gram ...bigger order this time but discipline and not be the fat kid in a candy shop got to put it out of sight this time measure out what I am going to do in say 12 hours and that is it.
Say I had to play a long thinking card game for many hours this be my choice for that ,or study or something I was still hungry on the salt too.
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Hehehe, i was kinda on the same level today so i know how ya feel ;D I try not to post anything on a forum anymore when i'm on a roll, as 99% of all posts turn out to be complete rubbish (while some took me hours to write...)
I've compared both of iis his/their amphetamine's this week, the di-basic phosphate has a nice clean high and made me sleep "well", while the dl-amph is so much more active. I don't know which i like the most as they pretty much have completely different effects imo.
The tri-basicphosphate is the most beautiful amphet I have ever seen I went wow when I saw it.
I'd say I prefer it only one thing swallowing it gave me indigestion - snorting didn't but that could be a coincidence had no indigestion on the d/l-amphetamine but have got a bad right arm with so much typing I have done today like a rsi near the shoulder lol.
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I am going to buy some cheaper amphet paste too next week learnt how to wash on SR now want to practice it for my first attempt see what nasties come out of it ;D
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Most any, but for me? 10mg Valium if you can find real ones. Most on here that say 10mg Roche - are from Pakistan and are of varying strengths. Some feel like maybe there's some Diazepam in there, others feel awful, like Ultram(tramadol). These are the blister packs too. Look at the reviews, and make sure the people are satisfied with the product. - I know of only a few good benzo dealers, that goes for Xanax too. A lot of bootleg shit out there.
Which benzo vendor would you recommend, if i may ask? :)
I use the Black Tuna Gang for his blue valiums he ships worldwide , look at his reviews from his customers it tells its own story.
Maybe some1 can recommend some another good vendor who is selling good valium. Sadly "Black Tuna Gang" dont ship to my country :(
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Most any, but for me? 10mg Valium if you can find real ones. Most on here that say 10mg Roche - are from Pakistan and are of varying strengths. Some feel like maybe there's some Diazepam in there, others feel awful, like Ultram(tramadol). These are the blister packs too. Look at the reviews, and make sure the people are satisfied with the product. - I know of only a few good benzo dealers, that goes for Xanax too. A lot of bootleg shit out there.
Which benzo vendor would you recommend, if i may ask? :)
I use the Black Tuna Gang for his blue valiums he ships worldwide , look at his reviews from his customers it tells its own story.
Maybe some1 can recommend some another good vendor who is selling good valium. Sadly "Black Tuna Gang" dont ship to my country :(
Where do you live Scandinavia or maybe Russia?
If you are in the first one I know a great vendor but you have to FE and take the risks but their blues are proper I have had them Russia or other x Soviet bloc I would not have a clue.The pills are 0.25 bitcoin for 20 I'd say they were prob a bit stronger than BTG but BTG give me the better sleep.
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No I dont live in Russia, I'm from scandinavia.
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Little short update on my recent iis order fellas. I wasnt thrilled right away, now I was still working through my last batch of CC and was doing a little mixing, bad idea for some reason because I didnt get much positive effect from either, just a heavy body load and racing heart. I cant blame either vendor since I dont know why both in my system at once was f'ing w me.
No matter, put CC's down for 2 days and started up again on iss sulphate, no more body load, clean, smooth, and less of the "heady" high like I get with CC. I was just straight up back to my normal clear headed, focuses, happy energetic self. Working harder later, better mood all day, literally no crash or headahce, would just start to get really tired as it wore off...
As working through iss sulphate And some dibasic (here and there) , im more impressed daily. Ive more or less been on a binge since arrived (mild one, yes I know the dangers). Pulled a couple all -nighters this week and feel amazing still with minimal sides... Im shocked, even as I sit here still doing a few mg's every few hours, the absolute total # of hours of sleep Ive had is 6 hours in 6 days. Ive never done that before ever, im normally an over sleeper. And even pulling an all nigher with BM's, CC's I always hit a wall the seconds day where no amount can possibly clear my head, wake me up, or help me to function.
I don't even know really what to say about iss gear except it blew every expectation Ive ever had about great AMP clear out of the water. At this point, it is my gold standard to which all others shall be judged. 6 hours of sleep in 6 days about .5g's of amp, and I feel 100% normal right now. Normally Id be hearing voices, nauseous, dizzy, crazy f'ing migraine of my life and require 3 straight days of sleep just to recover... Not this time, gonna grab 8 hours and feel like a million bucks after I do.
One side note - damn that dibasic burns like the devils cock in your nose... but it hits hard, fast, clean min later you forget what all the fuss and tears were for :) Mild Jones'in and very slight headache from the dibasic IMO. but still a clean quality unparallelled to anything I have yet tried. Damn an I wish I tried this shit without a 6 month high level tolerance!!
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Hi guys,
sorry for asking but, especially to the ones seeking for advice on sleeping pills:
Can't you go to your doctor and get a prescription for Xanax, instead of risking an order on SR, Scandinavia too?
Then you go back to the doctor the week after, saying Xanax didn't work, you tried a couple Valium pills from your grandmother and you'd prefer have that prescribed.
And those pills on SR cost 10 times their price on a drug store!
Who binges a lot may have to rely or SR because of quantity needed but not a novice. And seriously if I had to order xanax by the ounce I would think twice about my amp habits.
Speaking about moderation, after reading Hamburgler21's review I think I have an urge to try isi's products, thanks for the report, +1karma. Some questions: you said you had 5gs. of speed, how much of it was d/l amp and how much phosphate? Do you refer to the latter as your new gold standard, or both?
Cheers.
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I'm consider ordering myself a little variety pack from iis. Are US customers reporting getting their packages smoothly?
I've wanted to try triphos for a long time.
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Hi guys,
sorry for asking but, especially to the ones seeking for advice on sleeping pills:
Can't you go to your doctor and get a prescription for Xanax, instead of risking an order on SR, Scandinavia too?
Then you go back to the doctor the week after, saying Xanax didn't work, you tried a couple Valium pills from your grandmother and you'd prefer have that prescribed.
And those pills on SR cost 10 times their price on a drug store!
Who binges a lot may have to rely or SR because of quantity needed but not a novice. And seriously if I had to order xanax by the ounce I would think twice about my amp habits.
Speaking about moderation, after reading Hamburgler21's review I think I have an urge to try isi's products, thanks for the report, +1karma. Some questions: you said you had 5gs. of speed, how much of it was d/l amp and how much phosphate? Do you refer to the latter as your new gold standard, or both?
Cheers.
My DR gave me valium once he said I don't want you hooked on these so he gave me 2mg ones I'm nearly 6ft 6" did nothing had no benzo tolerance at all so it took 20mg to feel anything even then.So only had 40 mg left for the month lol
So started buying blues ten years ago but always disciplined my self and I need 30 mg now so not too bad never wanted to end up taking fistfulls of them in fact 25mg off msj 5mg little whites ones was enough last time I took some.
Never heard of anyone on xanax here I'll have to check see if they are prescribed here.
Xanax taste disgusting I can taste them for ages hate the taste only ones I got on with and liked was the white bars but I'd not buy anything of the biggest seller on here of them , already got stung by him for 3 bitcoins with his shite oxys.
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Well its been a while since i didn't access sr or the forums, checked SR sporadically and never got in time for BM or CC listings.
Hey interested thing that happened to me yesterday, after taking a substantial amount of amphetamine (70mdma+30amp and 20 and later other 20 insulfated) I decided to insulfate 5meoDmt (like 10mg) 2 hours after last amp dose and it helped me a lot, the last 40mg of amp I took home after the party because i got left over with an urge to redose and after de dmt I lost that urge, the appetite came back. Ate lots of food and afterwards went to sleep.
Id like to ask you guys how long does it take to you to feel withdrawal symptoms, what was your dose and for how long?
After taking low doses sporadically I managed to go 2 weeks clean and started 2 weeks ago to only take it the weekends but I think i might have done more than i should.
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I've placed an order with iisthisisi (no clue how to pronounce that name btw. can someone enlighten me?) for "5 grams d/l-amphetamine 70+%" will update with a review once I receive it.
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Maybe some1 can recommend some another good vendor who is selling good valium. Sadly "Black Tuna Gang" dont ship to my country :(
Where you from? Europe? Buy Off-Road. And don't buy Valium, go for Lorazepam and Clonazepam.
I've placed an order with iisthisisi (no clue how to pronounce that name btw. can someone enlighten me?) for "5 grams d/l-amphetamine 70+%" will update with a review once I receive it.
You won't regret it ;)
I am wondering now with BM gone, CC semi-gone, isi holding up the pure end of the spectrum, what will happen if he stops? Well, for me it's easy - he stops, I stop, I don't buy anything else. Will ppl go back to washing their paste to rid it of cutting agents?
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I've placed an order with iisthisisi (no clue how to pronounce that name btw. can someone enlighten me?) for "5 grams d/l-amphetamine 70+%" will update with a review once I receive it.
Dunno how to say his name , make sure if you binge on it to eat something I only ate one sandwich in 3 days and i'm paying for that today badly and still don't feel hungry around 24 hours later but have forced myself and been hitting the vitamins and had to take valiums too on a weeks break here now lol only coffee and caffeine pills for me for a pick me up.
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Maybe some1 can recommend some another good vendor who is selling good valium. Sadly "Black Tuna Gang" dont ship to my country :(
Where you from? Europe? Buy Off-Road. And don't buy Valium, go for Lorazepam and Clonazepam.
I've placed an order with iisthisisi (no clue how to pronounce that name btw. can someone enlighten me?) for "5 grams d/l-amphetamine 70+%" will update with a review once I receive it.
You won't regret it ;)
I am wondering now with BM gone, CC semi-gone, isi holding up the pure end of the spectrum, what will happen if he stops? Well, for me it's easy - he stops, I stop, I don't buy anything else. Will ppl go back to washing their paste to rid it of cutting agents?
Dexedrine ir for me expensive though but clean gotta ship in from Canada though as he send here never had one but they had legendary status in the 70's here with Northern souls music all nighters.Adderrall are not my cup of tea it won't be them.Dexedrine for dancing Adderrall for studying as I saw someone put it.
Think I found the right size capsule to use for isi stuff 50mg but their sizes are all in ml.
Otherwise it will have to be paste and acetone washed 2 times after a bad experience with that coughing up solvent not keen on that experience again.
Someone gave isi one out of five for his salt that man is an idiot or a competitor or both.
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I've placed an order with iisthisisi (no clue how to pronounce that name btw. can someone enlighten me?) for "5 grams d/l-amphetamine 70+%" will update with a review once I receive it.
I is this is I ;)
Maybe some1 can recommend some another good vendor who is selling good valium. Sadly "Black Tuna Gang" dont ship to my country :(
Where you from? Europe? Buy Off-Road. And don't buy Valium, go for Lorazepam and Clonazepam.
Note that clonazepam withdrawal is more dangerous than the withdrawal of other benzos because of its strong anticonvulsant effect. I don't see a reason to take a benzo that's main purpose is treatment or prevention of seizures.
My advice though applies to any benzo: Don't get hooked ;)
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Free Speed event is back ,
Every week you will get 50G speed for free , Those who participate in the event , Please make sure you meet the conditions -
60 Posts and above , and a review in the forum , in both my ruomor mill and review therad ( this one ) , about the quality.
This is the same speed that i sell and that has awesome reviews , So Those of you who want the real deal , This is it :)
Feel free to order ;)
1g per person , cheers guys.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b5c523e56
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Hey Haiz this is nice!
Which shipment should we choose?
I went with free with a second item as I have another order with you that should ship soon, so if you can join them it could be awesome.
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Free Speed event is back ,
Every week you will get 50G speed for free , Those who participate in the event , Please make sure you meet the conditions -
60 Posts and above , and a review in the forum , in both my ruomor mill and review therad ( this one ) , about the quality.
This is the same speed that i sell and that has awesome reviews , So Those of you who want the real deal , This is it :)
Feel free to order ;)
1g per person , cheers guys.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b5c523e56
Still waiting on the first offer mate to review :D
12 days not here but at 9 cents FE I'll not be losing sleep over that coin or complaining ;D
Maybe a postman will take it and do a review.
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I'm consider ordering myself a little variety pack from iis. Are US customers reporting getting their packages smoothly?
I've wanted to try triphos for a long time.
My last one did not make it (NE USA). I received a prompt refund...but I really wanted the envelope!
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My last one did not make it (NE USA). I received a prompt refund...but I really wanted the envelope!
My last order didn't make it either (I'm in EU), and I have a friend, who didn't receive either! I was thinking that customs officials in my country were on to his packaging, but now I don't know what to think.
Really annoying too, since BM, and CC doesn't have any listings at the moment, and I really don't want to try any of the nasty paste all the other vendors are offering!
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Until Boy Master (BM) is back up and operational, I guess it's a waiting game....especially for those in the Southern Hemisphere.
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Until Boy Master (BM) is back up and operational, I guess it's a waiting game....especially for those in the Southern Hemisphere.
What about LGC who also ships from Spain? Could be one in the same...the rumors abound!
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What about LGC who also ships from Spain? Could be one in the same...the rumors abound!
Oh...I didn't know about LGC.
Thanks for that.....oh, what does LGC stand for?
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What about LGC who also ships from Spain? Could be one in the same...the rumors abound!
Oh...I didn't know about LGC.
Thanks for that.....oh, what does LGC stand for?
LGCutivo mum! ;)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/922591cfbc
IIRC some fellow from this thread bought some and wasn't disappointed. Read the last few pages or do a search on the thread with vendor's name
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What about LGC who also ships from Spain? Could be one in the same...the rumors abound!
Oh...I didn't know about LGC.
Thanks for that.....oh, what does LGC stand for?
LGCutivo mum! ;)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/922591cfbc
IIRC some fellow from this thread bought some and wasn't disappointed. Read the last few pages or do a search on the thread with vendor's name
I did indeed party with mates for 3 days and nights on LGcutivo's amp and was very impressed.
It gives a clean, energetic and focused high with minimal negative side effects.
Lots of beer consumed and plenty of hilarious conversations while at home and when out plenty of females got they're ears chewed.. Good times.
Don't hesitate to order people!
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Free Speed event is back ,
Every week you will get 50G speed for free , Those who participate in the event , Please make sure you meet the conditions -
60 Posts and above , and a review in the forum , in both my ruomor mill and review therad ( this one ) , about the quality.
This is the same speed that i sell and that has awesome reviews , So Those of you who want the real deal , This is it :)
Feel free to order ;)
1g per person , cheers guys.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0b5c523e56
Just made an order mate!
Thanks for another opportunity :)
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CC TURN PM BACK ON!! and send me your email!
everyone else who thinks we should stay in contact, send me your mails as well. SR being seized is real?!
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for those too lazy to read through the spam: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/02/us-crime-silkroad-raid-idUSBRE9910TR20131002
DPR has been arrested, so CC and isi it's time to hand out emails lol. BM too if he's still alive.
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Well, it's been nice meetin' you guys!
Take care!
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wow... speechless.. it was fun while it lasted, but in the end it was probably too good to be true...
hope vendors will keep doing business though
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Contact me speed vendors
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Sooo, how to set up a tor mail account? ;D
This really sucks donkeyballs tho :(
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CC -- you need to accept PM's
IIS -- only account on forum with name "iisthisisi" is not a verified vendor account.
anyone know contact info for these 2 vendors? if you guys are reading this i'm a repeat customer (3 orders CC, 1 order IIS) with >90 successful SR transactions and over $25k spent.
wuq7fath@Safe-mail.net
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made a thread but no replies as of yet: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=216983.0
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CC -- you need to accept PM's
IIS -- only account on forum with name "iisthisisi" is not a verified vendor account.
anyone know contact info for these 2 vendors? if you guys are reading this i'm a repeat customer (3 orders CC, 1 order IIS) with >90 successful SR transactions and over $25k spent.
wuq7fath@Safe-mail.net
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made a thread but no replies as of yet: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=216983.0
I would like to get a PM from CC, IIS & BM too, how to contact and buy in future!
Also thanks for all you guys, which participated here in this thread! Great company!
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yeah, where are IISI and CC, common' boys we can keep it going without SR. never needed it in the first place hehe.
IISI I want what stock is left if you quit!!! or at least some/all of it. :D
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Sooo, how to set up a tor mail account? ;D
This really sucks donkeyballs tho :(
we made it to the end though! win! foreseeable end, dpr is/was an idiot, fooling people into security with pgp sigs.
iisi need to talk to you, dont get us worried and just disappear. :(
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good luck all Better all call Saul. ;D
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OH SHIT!
IIS, would like to get in touch for future orders :)
Other vendors can also PM me of course!
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=/ I was about to snap up a load of iisi's speed as well, just before the site went down. If any vendors want to get in touch, please do. I've been using my stash pretty liberally the last while, anticipating picking up some of iisi's deliciousness.
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Bye all..Too good to be true.SR It's been fun. CC and Isthisisi gonna miss you..still hoping for post..hopefully another option will be up soon. PM if you guys relocate
Stay safe and save the stash.
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^^ I 2nd the above post. vendors (iisi) don't do anything over-dramatic, you are safe. I can take all what is left and distribute it if needed be, just don't flush it down the toilette :D
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Please post the PGP keys of your top vendors, so when they reappear somewhere we know they are not scams.
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Please post the PGP keys of your top vendors, so when they reappear somewhere we know they are not scams.
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hoping iis can contact me too? thx!
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^^ I 2nd the above post. vendors (iisi) don't do anything over-dramatic, you are safe. I can take all what is left and distribute it if needed be, just don't flush it down the toilette :D
I 2nd the above second....
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^^ I 2nd the above post. vendors (iisi) don't do anything over-dramatic, you are safe. I can take all what is left and distribute it if needed be, just don't flush it down the toilette :D
I 2nd the above second....
+3
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Hey everybody,
After reading the complete charge against DPR, I realized that posting with your real email to promote an underground drug site may not be the best move to make.
Everyone that wishes to stay in contact, please send me a pm (with pgp) and your own public key.
Take care,
I
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Yay, iisthisisi! There's a new vendor on the sheep marketplace with a similar name, the same gpg key and some lovely looking products :) Is it really you? Fingers crossed...
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The logical choice would be to move over to BMR or The sheep market. The sheep market doesn't have me convinced. They do no even have a secure escrow system. Let's hope they make some improvements. In any case i should have a profile up on either BMR or the sheep market, maybe even both by the end of this month.
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GREAT CC! I'll be waiting for you ;)
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virmo's speed was better than cc's becuse it wqs his, washed, and added pure dex... but it was expensive and viemo so people preffered to order 1g (0.5 after dry) speedpaste :(
bmr is full dammit
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We are only waiting for BM
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I summoned them and it worked! BM won't be back imho. There's another pure vendor on BMR from germany who manufactures or washes himself, very promising dude. If you see him, you'll notice him.
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Huh? I'd swear I saw a post from BoyMaster in this thread saying he would be moving on to Sheep.. but now I cannot find it anymore?
I summoned them and it worked!
Muslix, you are a wizard. (I watched the first Harry Potter movie last night ;D )
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thanks müslix, for everything.
..vendor is Politox?
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anyone used bmr
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i believe BM created an account on sheep named "superspeedbros" and said he will have listings up around oct. 15
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guys it might be better if everyone would stop calling the new usernames of vendors on BMR/Sheep in this topic..
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new users could abuse the SR nicks to scam people with inferior product, so just name them if not obvious, but be sure it's them.
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Thanks müslix, Baaaa