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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: FiberOptic on September 26, 2013, 09:18 pm
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SR has had a positive impact for vendors and buyers alike. As a vendor I feel it's time to pass on a bit of the good fortune to others. Next week Mon-Fri (9/30-10/4) I will be donating 30% of sales to charity. My charities of choice will be Erowid and Seans Outpost, 15% each.
Erowid provides a vital resource to those who intend to take drugs. Without it harm reduction would be much more difficult.
Sean's Outpost( is a Bitcoin funded charity in Florida which serves meals to the homeless and has just opened a homeless sanctuary to help them get back on their feet. They are doing a lot of good and I'd like to see them continue. bitcoinmagazine.com/6939/seans-outpost-announces-satoshi-forest/
At the end of the week I will post here to let you know how much will be donated to charity. The funds will then be properly anonymized over the course of the next week and then distributed to the charities.
There is an element of trust here but in an anonymous world there will always be.
I encourage other vendors to take part and donate what ever percent they can to the charity of their choice.
If you would like to take part please post what percent you will be donating and to who along with a link to your vendor page. I will try to update this post with the details of those who are donating.
Cheers!
FiberOptic
Participating Vendors:
MainStay 100% of 2c-b listing profit to Ann and Alexander Shulgin: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/fa58a1d0ea
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/449d4f916e
ACE 5-20% Charity to be determined
silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/9de2239028
LightOfPi 15% to Erowid
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b487aa3ec2
JerseyCow 50 Gandalf blotters and 70 chipped Ninja Turtle pills 100% donated to charity to be determined
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/b8e2078ce1
Cher All proceeds from extra blotter equally to Seans Outpost EFF and Sea Shepard Society
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/4e72e66d3e
FiberOptic 15% Sean's Outpost 15% Erowid
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a54f8afffa
If I missed you please let me know
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+1 to you my friend! Now thats awesome!
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This a great step towards improving the negative image many people have of SR. Funding a charity in Florida which serves meals to the homeless and has just opened a homeless sanctuary? What's not to like?
Drugs may be bad (as South Park's Mr. Mackey would say) but giving to the homeless isn't.
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What? Only 2 posts? Why is the SR community not applauding this vendor?!
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IRL i have done this a few times but with cash donations or using said cash to purchase canned goods and then donating to a homeless shelter or soup kitchen. I was once homeless and very poor, my life depended on the help that came from these places and now that I am in a totally different position I try to give back what I can and when I can to places that have helped me.
+1 and kudos, erowid is harm reduction 101
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Indeed, I've lived on the streets myself and the main organised charity I give to these days is another homeless one.
+1 to FiberOptic.
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Great idea, I like that this is coming from FiberOptic, who i probably wouldn't have ended up ordering from if not for the wealth of information available on RCs at Erowid that gave me a pretty good idea of what to expect. I actually just recently donated a small amount of BTC to them last week. Expect another order from me soon Fiber :-)
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This would be an excellent PR move, especially if you got at least a couple dozen high profile blogs to cover it.
The more the Tor underbelly can promote the Robin Hood side of the deep web in public perception, the more cover it is going to have.
And you can help some people in need during the process.
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This would be an excellent PR move, especially if you got at least a couple dozen high profile blogs to cover it.
The more the Tor underbelly can promote the Robin Hood side of the deep web in public perception, the more cover it is going to have.
And you can help some people in need during the process.
If any of you have contacts at blogs that would find this interesting or even a reddit account feel free to post about it. Any attention it brings to these non profits can only be a good thing.
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all I can say is +1 OP 8)
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I'm in for 1BTC, Donating on behalf of what Atlantis failed to do.
Let me know when and where to contribute
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FiberOptic sets a good example. What goes around comes around.
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I'm in for 1BTC, Donating on behalf of what Atlantis failed to do.
Let me know when and where to contribute
Sean's outpost:
1JkKn478ivR6iux2pUCjsvqhguPywP3dFH
Just to give you all some perspective 1 BTC makes about 100 meals for the homeless. With the help of all my loyal customers I expect We'll be able to donate enough to supply at least 500 meals.
Erowid:
1CpvHeewzkW8XsUMA5gqERxYYjk7SshhGf
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SR has had a positive impact for vendors and buyers alike. As a vendor I feel it's time to pass on a bit of the good fortune to others. Next week Mon-Fri (9/30-10/4) I will be donating 30% of sales to charity. My charities of choice will be Erowid and Seans Outpost, 15% each.
Erowid provides a vital resource to those who intend to take drugs. Without it harm reduction would be much more difficult.
Sean's Outpost( is a Bitcoin funded charity in Florida which serves meals to the homeless and has just opened a homeless sanctuary to help them get back on their feet. They are doing a lot of good and I'd like to see them continue. bitcoinmagazine.com/6939/seans-outpost-announces-satoshi-forest/
Best topic made my day
At the end of the week I will post here to let you know how much will be donated to charity. The funds will then be properly anonymized over the course of the next week and then distributed to the charities.
There is an element of trust here but in an anonymous world there will always be.
I encourage other vendors to take part and donate what ever percent they can to the charity of their choice.
If you would like to take part please post what percent you will be donating and to who along with a link to your vendor page. I will try to update this post with the details of those who are donating.
Cheers!
FiberOptic
Participating Vendors:
FiberOptic 15% Sean's Outpost 15% Erowid
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a54f8afffa
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Everyone here may want to consider the following two people who also need our help in these dark times, Sasha Shulgin and Stefan Molyneux.
Both are very unwell and the former we all owe many a good night out (and quite a few dollars made) who has serious issues due to old age, and the latter is of vital importance for the libertarian community world wide and is suffering from cancer.
Stefan Molyneux should be the President of the US (despite being Canadian) and has some brilliant books everyone should own, and Sasha Shulgin should have shrines and temples built in his name and his books are the psychonauts scripture collection.
It always pleases me when I see the Silk Road community rally behind causes, one because it helps benefit the recipients, but it also flies in the face of all the stereotypes hurled at drug user through the media, religious institutions and the political smear campaigns, well done people.
~ PSY 8)
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+1'd :)
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This would be an excellent PR move, especially if you got at least a couple dozen high profile blogs to cover it.
The more the Tor underbelly can promote the Robin Hood side of the deep web in public perception, the more cover it is going to have.
And you can help some people in need during the process.
If any of you have contacts at blogs that would find this interesting or even a reddit account feel free to post about it. Any attention it brings to these non profits can only be a good thing.
OzFreelancer (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;u=28086) might be interested in giving this a bit of publicity from her corner of the blogosphere (allthingsvice.com) - I'll see if I can point her this way
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awesome stuff! good on you bro!
you know there is a like the spare BTC coin thread for little amounts. maybe we could encourage people to send their spare BTC to these or other charities. every little helps and lots of small amounts makes loads :)
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Hey, I love this idea! I want in. I'm going to come up with a special listing just for this week, with all profits going to the Shulgins. I'll post back here once I put it up. Thanks for this.
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I think this is a great idea. I hope the benefactors of your deeds will be aware that they money they are getting came from the sale of drugs on SilkRoad though. It would be great positive publicity for this marketplace!
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I'm in for 1BTC, Donating on behalf of what Atlantis failed to do.
Let me know when and where to contribute
Sean's outpost:
1JkKn478ivR6iux2pUCjsvqhguPywP3dFH
Just to give you all some perspective 1 BTC makes about 100 meals for the homeless. With the help of all my loyal customers I expect We'll be able to donate enough to supply at least 500 meals.
Erowid:
1CpvHeewzkW8XsUMA5gqERxYYjk7SshhGf
Thanks for the addresses.
Would it be better if we all pooled together and made one large donation next Friday as it's likely to get more positive attention than individually. ?
In any case they are both great causes
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I'm in for 1BTC, Donating on behalf of what Atlantis failed to do.
Let me know when and where to contribute
Sean's outpost:
1JkKn478ivR6iux2pUCjsvqhguPywP3dFH
Just to give you all some perspective 1 BTC makes about 100 meals for the homeless. With the help of all my loyal customers I expect We'll be able to donate enough to supply at least 500 meals.
Erowid:
1CpvHeewzkW8XsUMA5gqERxYYjk7SshhGf
Thanks for the addresses.
Would it be better if we all pooled together and made one large donation next Friday as it's likely to get more positive attention than individually. ?
In any case they are both great causes
Are you billy bullshitting again. Fuck off you fucking lying piece of shit.
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+1 Great thing to do! :D
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I'm on a mission motherfuckers. A mission to collect negative karma and upset black guys, yeah!
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I applaud any kind of altruism, so big props to OP and any other participating vendors.
One of the great things about SR is the community and it's things like this that help it shine in its true colors.
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One of the great things about SR is the community and it's things like this that help it shine in its true colors.
Many wonderful colours too, depending on your DOC ;-)
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Great initiative! I'll try to whip up a blog this week :)
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This is just a wonderful community.
Go chase some real criminals you fucking "real" world.
Only god can judge us.
Stay safe and karma to you guys.
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Kudos to OP for starting this thread about giving back to the needy community...Before starting to vend on SR i was homeless and involved with street people...a lot of my close friends contracted chronic diseases.
We live in a mean world corrupted by evil politicians and greedy businessmen. and we the dealers get singled out for all evils in this society
A lot of vendors here have made fortunes thanks to SR revolution. i think its high time to donate part of proceedings to charities and lobbies influencing govt decision making
I was involved with an IOP for a while(also vending on SR for 2 years) and talked to lot of clients whose life have been brightened by cheap generics supplied by me. A lot of these people are terminally ill suffering from cancer/ HIV which suck a lot of monies out of their budget.
Big pharma hoard cash in swiss banks which lasts for generations. Big pharma is involved in price fixing and rigging according to a countries income levels. Its high time we expose these white collared criminals..They are wolves in sheeps clothing.
I am firm believer in cheap affordable meds for the aid of mankind. I give part of our profits for bringing positive changes to lives of marginalized people who cannot afford meds.
I am open to sincere offers to supply cheap cost priced bulk meds for Hiv/ Aids/ Cancer patients worldwide. I plan to get involved with projects supplying cheap affordable meds to people in Africa, asia, worldwide. This is kind of thing which govts. and UN have failed in.
This is my way to say Thank You and bring positive change.
MEGA PHARMA
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Also instead of giving cash which can be misused by corrupt officials...i will prefer to work on supplying cheap HIV Cancer meds directly working with affected people or honest NGOs. This should help patients with life-threatening diseases.
If you think you are affected, PM me and we can figure things out at DEAL PRICE.
MEGA PHARMA initiative
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It'd be cool if you were actually doing this for the benefit of charity, just a publicity stunt for your business. I've given away $100's at a time without anyone knowing and I don't even have a steady flow of income, you just felt the need to make a big deal out of this for your ego, or your business? In the meantime tell DPR when you get a chance to donate some of the extra BTC he's decided to get to charity if he hasn't already, because anyone who is smart knows that he didn't change the price because of the market change but because he gets more Bitcoins. I have $2000 in BTC and I didn't have a problem getting rid of them at Mt. Gox price, I actually had multiple offers. SR can suck my dick, I guess everyone ends up getting greedy in the end. Why have enough to last your lifetime when you can have 100x that?
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I really like the idea, when we started out TSC we did a few charity give aways, since then we've been to busy trying to grow the company and havn't been keeping an eye any charities. Instead of giving to a local charity this time, I would like to know if any SR buyers have a charity close to heart that they perhaps would like to give to but due to financial constraints cannot. TSC will donate between 5% and 20% of one weeks gross earnings, should be roughly around 10k
ACE
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It'd be cool if you were actually doing this for the benefit of charity, just a publicity stunt for your business. I've given away $100's at a time without anyone knowing and I don't even have a steady flow of income, you just felt the need to make a big deal out of this for your ego, or your business? In the meantime tell DPR when you get a chance to donate some of the extra BTC he's decided to get to charity if he hasn't already, because anyone who is smart knows that he didn't change the price because of the market change but because he gets more Bitcoins. I have $2000 in BTC and I didn't have a problem getting rid of them at Mt. Gox price, I actually had multiple offers. SR can suck my dick, I guess everyone ends up getting greedy in the end. Why have enough to last your lifetime when you can have 100x that?
I'm sorry you have been negatively affected by the mtgox prices. If you are not aware, it is currently very hard to cash out via mtgox so the prices listed on mtgox are severely inflated. If you are able to sell at mtgox prices so easily then there is an excellent arbitrage opportunity for you. You can simply buy from campbx or coinbase and then sell at mtgox prices for a very respectable profit. DPR does not benefit from this change in exchange rate, it helps ease the affect on vendors but last I checked he is still averaging mtgox with other exchanges so as a vendor I am still getting less than my asking price because I cant sell at the exchange rate being used.
As far as ego or sales boosting. I don't expect I'll see a significant rise in sales from this and even if I do it will still be negated by the donation percentage. I like to believe in positive momentum. By announcing here that I will be donating a percent of sales to charity it brings the potential to get other vendors to take part who may not have done so otherwise and all around raise awareness.
Good luck mate.
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I think this is a great idea. I hope the benefactors of your deeds will be aware that they money they are getting came from the sale of drugs on SilkRoad though. It would be great positive publicity for this marketplace!
I'm undecided on how to do this. On one hand I'd love for them to know this came from SR and bring SR some positive publicity but on the other hand I'm worried that it could bring some trouble to them. Currently I'm leaning towards an anonymous donation so there will be no issue with accepting the donation or any worry about them giving it back to avoid legal problems.
I'd love to get everyone's input on this.
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I think this is a great idea. I hope the benefactors of your deeds will be aware that they money they are getting came from the sale of drugs on SilkRoad though. It would be great positive publicity for this marketplace!
I'm undecided on how to do this. On one hand I'd love for them to know this came from SR and bring SR some positive publicity but on the other hand I'm worried that it could bring some trouble to them. Currently I'm leaning towards an anonymous donation so there will be no issue with accepting the donation or any worry about them giving it back to avoid legal problems.
I'd love to get everyone's input on this.
All the charity needs to know is that it has come from an anonymous community of like-minded individuals, who - despite what propaganda might make them out to be - actually care about causes like the ones the charity is fighting for, and in some cases because members of the community may have received help from similar charities before, and therefore understand the importance of such work.
Or something.
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would it be an idea to somehow send the btc to an international media agency requesting them to pass it on to the listed charities? that way we'd get media coverage for doing it. my only concern is that they would pass the money on to the fed as drug profits. but maybe someone could come up with a way to word it so that it doesn't imply that it is drug revenue.
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@isallmememe
As you probably know, my entire offering on SR is all to do with how things are worded.
I doubt I'll get any sales to be able to contribute this coming week as I'm still new and am still working on my main flagship offering, however if it helps, I'd be happy to contribute by shaping the way this was worded to the media outlet - feel free to PM me if this idea gets underway and I'll help out with the linguistics any way I can.
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(You could perhaps think of me as a political spin doctor but with more morals ;p)
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@isallmememe
As you probably know, my entire offering on SR is all to do with how things are worded.
I doubt I'll get any sales to be able to contribute this coming week as I'm still new and am still working on my main flagship offering, however if it helps, I'd be happy to contribute by shaping the way this was worded to the media outlet - feel free to PM me if this idea gets underway and I'll help out with the linguistics any way I can.
yeah i'm all for giving it a go but it will obviously need authority from someone at silk road hq, and it would need very careful consideration. choosing the right media outlet would be crucial as a lot of them would just find a way to spin the story somehow to make us look bad. maybe using fb and twitter could work, undertake the pr ourselves so we have more control over how the story is delivered. maybe that way the media would have less chance to twist it seeing as the story would already be out there. i'm sure i read that dpr was using twitter, not sure if he's still doing so, but if he is, and anyone who follows him shares the fuck out of it then that could be a better route.
+1 for your offer as well ID
maybe the charity week could be postponed a little in order to give everyone a chance to prepare for it. just springing the fact that its next week might not give it a chance to blossom properly. i'm also guessing a lot of vendors who would be willing to jump on board may miss it as well, or their business may not be in the best position atm to partake, which would just limit the donations. plus maybe if dpr set up a donation address then us buyers could also donate to the cause. it will give us all a chance to not just help people in need but also help us all as a community and the sr mission as a whole.
if done right tho it could do heaps for public opinion. imagine the thoughts of the masses seeing, for once these evil doing drug dealing scum monsters actually doing something off their own initiative to help others in need and society as a whole. would certainly make for a very refreshing story after all the scaremongering horse shit that we are all used to hearing.
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100% of my profits for this 2C-B listing will go directly to Ann and Alexander Shulgin: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/fa58a1d0ea
It's not a whole lot, but every little bit(coin) counts. This is not limited to this week, though, the listings will stay up until sold. And I may even add more...
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I have posted before on how vendors and buyers should make some contribution to charity and my post got quickly buried with no responses. My two organizations I recommend are:
Drug Policy Alliance
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Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
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I have posted before on how vendors and buyers should make some contribution to charity and my post got quickly buried with no responses. My two organizations I recommend are:
Drug Policy Alliance
and
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
that wouldn't look so great in the media tho
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I wanted to do something like this but then take 25% of the collected money for myself as "administrative fees."
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I'm undecided on how to do this. On one hand I'd love for them to know this came from SR and bring SR some positive publicity but on the other hand I'm worried that it could bring some trouble to them. Currently I'm leaning towards an anonymous donation so there will be no issue with accepting the donation or any worry about them giving it back to avoid legal problems.
I'd love to get everyone's input on this.
Yes, I suppose the charities could possibly suffer some damage from knowingly and willingly receiving 'drug money'. Perhaps donating anonymously before making media aware would be a better plan.
As for which mass media, I think in Britain some Guardian journalists might be willing to cover the story without adding any negative spin.
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I think this is a great idea. I hope the benefactors of your deeds will be aware that they money they are getting came from the sale of drugs on SilkRoad though. It would be great positive publicity for this marketplace!
I'm undecided on how to do this. On one hand I'd love for them to know this came from SR and bring SR some positive publicity but on the other hand I'm worried that it could bring some trouble to them. Currently I'm leaning towards an anonymous donation so there will be no issue with accepting the donation or any worry about them giving it back to avoid legal problems.
I'd love to get everyone's input on this.
All the charity needs to know is that it has come from an anonymous community of like-minded individuals, who - despite what propaganda might make them out to be - actually care about causes like the ones the charity is fighting for, and in some cases because members of the community may have received help from similar charities before, and therefore understand the importance of such work.
Or something.
Yep that sounds like the best option, keep it anonymous and keep them out of any trouble.
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I've popped up a blog post :)
http://allthingsvice.com/2013/10/01/when-drug-dealers-get-all-warm-and-fuzzy/
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Im lovin these ideas guys and gals!
Depending on amount this could make the news.
Even if they were to just mention bitcoin in a positive light such as this, more people would want to join BTC and many charities would want to set up their very own wallets.
I suggest maybe letting the BTC community at bitcointalk know about this and maybe contribute...
I wouldnt mind setting up a way for donations to constantly roll in to Drug Policy Aliance or Law Enforcement again prohibition, im sure here are many charities out there that a majority of SR members would endorse.
This is really stickin it to LE
Watch the DEA confiscate the BTC from those 2 charities as 'proceeds from drugs dealing' and rob the homeless charity...i could see them stooping that low ;)
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Im lovin these ideas guys and gals!
Depending on amount this could make the news.
Even if they were to just mention bitcoin in a positive light such as this, more people would want to join BTC and many charities would want to set up their very own wallets.
I suggest maybe letting the BTC community at bitcointalk know about this and maybe contribute...
I wouldnt mind setting up a way for donations to constantly roll in to Drug Policy Aliance or Law Enforcement again prohibition, im sure here are many charities out there that a majority of SR members would endorse.
This is really stickin it to LE
Watch the DEA confiscate the BTC from those 2 charities as 'proceeds from drugs dealing' and rob the homeless charity...i could see them stooping that low ;)
A constant contribution could be really interesting. Perhaps if DPR setup something that would allow vendors to automatically donate X% of all sales to charity. It would be great positive publicity for SR, help out charities and make it easier for vendors to do without thinking about it.
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It warms my heart to see everyone's generosity. There are a couple of points I'd like to mention about giving to charity. For one, I think it is an important pillar of civil society. Our capacity for empathy and wanting others to succeed should not be ignored or downplayed. A lack of charitable spirit is often used as a point in favor of a central authority with the power to take from the rich and give to the poor. It is said that, absent government intervention, no one would have the incentive to help those who are in need and have little to give in return. You are proving them wrong right now.
Second, you must be responsible for the effect of money on your fellow man. Money encourages and motivates people to do whatever they have to in order to get that money. For an employee, that's doing a good job and pleasing their boss, or maybe blending in and not risking a visible mistake, or maybe lying on their resume. For a businessman, that can mean serving their customers, or bribe the authorities to enact laws that hurt their competition, among many other things. A dictator/politician will murder thousands, even millions, to keep their, or their party's control of tax revenue. Con artists and thieves have their way of getting money. For beggars, often being helpless and/or destitute gets a good return. In other words, money shapes people's behavior, which in turn shapes who they are, and it is not the case that giving someone money always has the effect you hope it does.
So, don't ignore your desire to help people, but strive always to give in such a way that people are empowered to rise up out of their conditions and transform their lives. Just be careful you aren't creating an incentive for people to become needy and destitute in order to win your charity.
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Cool idea. Drugs to support charity. Probably not something that people would expect to see from a site like this.
Another reason why I think the SR forum is such a cool community of people.
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It warms my heart to see everyone's generosity. There are a couple of points I'd like to mention about giving to charity. For one, I think it is an important pillar of civil society. Our capacity for empathy and wanting others to succeed should not be ignored or downplayed. A lack of charitable spirit is often used as a point in favor of a central authority with the power to take from the rich and give to the poor. It is said that, absent government intervention, no one would have the incentive to help those who are in need and have little to give in return. You are proving them wrong right now.
Second, you must be responsible for the effect of money on your fellow man. Money encourages and motivates people to do whatever they have to in order to get that money. For an employee, that's doing a good job and pleasing their boss, or maybe blending in and not risking a visible mistake, or maybe lying on their resume. For a businessman, that can mean serving their customers, or bribe the authorities to enact laws that hurt their competition, among many other things. A dictator/politician will murder thousands, even millions, to keep their, or their party's control of tax revenue. Con artists and thieves have their way of getting money. For beggars, often being helpless and/or destitute gets a good return. In other words, money shapes people's behavior, which in turn shapes who they are, and it is not the case that giving someone money always has the effect you hope it does.
So, don't ignore your desire to help people, but strive always to give in such a way that people are empowered to rise up out of their conditions and transform their lives. Just be careful you aren't creating an incentive for people to become needy and destitute in order to win your charity.
This is one reason I really like Sean's Outpost. Not only do they feed the homeless but the new homeless sanctuary will help them to get back on their feet, teach them skills, and work together as a community. By doing this they may help them return to contributing to society and thus improving society as a whole.
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So, don't ignore your desire to help people, but strive always to give in such a way that people are empowered to rise up out of their conditions and transform their lives. Just be careful you aren't creating an incentive for people to become needy and destitute in order to win your charity.
I do merely support street beggars when I give them money but in my own homeless days the money people gave me sustained me long enough to move out of that situation. The two charities I usually support don't give people handouts. Curiously, my sentiments seem to be similar to FiberOptic's, as they comprise one homelessness and housing organisation (Shelter) and one drugs advice agency (Release).
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Great idea. I'll donate 15% of my profit to erowid.org this week, they deserve it!
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Hi, I like this idea and would like to offer up a couple of things -
I've about 50 Gandalf blotters (70 - 110ug, unevenly laid) and about 70 chipped Ninja Turtle pills (110mg MDMA), I'll put up specific listings for these now and donate 100% of the proceeds from both.
JC
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Hi, I like this idea and would like to offer up a couple of things -
I've about 50 Gandalf blotters (70 - 110ug, unevenly laid) and about 70 chipped Ninja Turtle pills (110mg MDMA), I'll put up specific listings for these now and donate 100% of the proceeds from both.
JC
if the price is right i might just take ten of those blotters. then if they are uneven and one isn't so good i'll have plenty more and can just take another one.
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Hi, I like this idea and would like to offer up a couple of things -
I've about 50 Gandalf blotters (70 - 110ug, unevenly laid) and about 70 chipped Ninja Turtle pills (110mg MDMA), I'll put up specific listings for these now and donate 100% of the proceeds from both.
JC
if the price is right i might just take ten of those blotters. then if they are uneven and one isn't so good i'll have plenty more and can just take another one.
Yea I'll price them at about one third of the normal price, just to set expectations they are very hit n miss (but hey you could get lucky too and grab a bargain, up to 130ug!).
I haven't sold them on here due to said uncertainty so this seems like a great way to give them out 'as is' and cheap, with all proceeds going to a good cause.
And the pills are perfect quality-wise, just chipped or broken.
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Hi, I like this idea and would like to offer up a couple of things -
I've about 50 Gandalf blotters (70 - 110ug, unevenly laid) and about 70 chipped Ninja Turtle pills (110mg MDMA), I'll put up specific listings for these now and donate 100% of the proceeds from both.
JC
if the price is right i might just take ten of those blotters. then if they are uneven and one isn't so good i'll have plenty more and can just take another one.
Yea I'll price them at about one third of the normal price, just to set expectations they are very hit n miss (but hey you could get lucky too and grab a bargain, up to 130ug!).
I haven't sold them on here due to said uncertainty so this seems like a great way to give them out 'as is' and cheap, with all proceeds going to a good cause.
And the pills are perfect quality-wise, just chipped or broken.
yeah i'll have some of that. i was looking at your microdots earlier and thinking of ordering ten, but there was no way i could afford it this week. but i'll defo take them gandolfs at that price.
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this is beautiful, although i'm sure its high hopes, DPR do you think it could be in some way feasible to add this featuure to the vendor backend?
the option of donating a specific amount of btc or % of sales, put them through another fogging system and onwards to a specified charitable organisation.
this would also give us statistics on how much has actualy been sent through the system... hand that to the media mouthpieces as a soundbite (SR drug dealers have donated $1 million+ to charity, imagine!!).
we are 100% behind helping the homeless and already do IRL in any way possible, whenever possible. organisations spreading real, factual information on drug use is also a very worthy cause, although somewhat less important than injecting finances towards those who need it most. that is in my opinion of course, however obviously everyone has their own motivations/reasons for wanting to help others (or not!).
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great idea JC, we have some off cuts from the old gandalf and avatar batches that we sold, they are not in any way low strength or unevenly laid, they should all be in the 100uq range.
here is a listing for 25 of these, ultra bargain price of $3 each. all proceeds generated from this will go to the charities liste. we have approx 150 of these lying around and it really is a bargain, these are some nice blotters.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/4e72e66d3e
we will donate in equal measure to :
E.F.F for helping us all
https://www.eff.org
Sean's Outpost to help someone who needs it on the other side of the world
www.seansoutpost.com
Sea Shepard Society to help the planet
http://www.seashepherd.org/
LOVE to everyone... universal...
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this is beautiful, although i'm sure its high hopes, DPR do you think it could be in some way feasible to add this featuure to the vendor backend?
the option of donating a specific amount of btc or % of sales, put them through another fogging system and onwards to a specified charitable organisation.
this would also give us statistics on how much has actualy been sent through the system... hand that to the media mouthpieces as a soundbite (SR drug dealers have donated $1 million+ to charity, imagine!!).
we are 100% behind helping the homeless and already do IRL in any way possible, whenever possible. organisations spreading real, factual information on drug use is also a very worthy cause, although somewhat less important than injecting finances towards those who need it most. that is in my opinion of course, however obviously everyone has their own motivations/reasons for wanting to help others (or not!).
Nice idea + an included poll function where the donation goes to each month
But I fear it is a lot of programming work and I am sure DPR is already working like hell to protect us from evil LE and Hackers. :)
It would be nice to just establish a constant wallet and a sticky thread with a poll where to donate each month as a community.
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I already donate 200/month to sick kids =)
I assumed most good willed vendors on here would be doing something similar already.
WS
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Please please please keep totals/reciepients secret!! I am no expert, tho this sounds like it could fall under money laundering legislation, or at least get unneeded IRS/HMRC attention. Do you think these people with little enough money as it is need something like that?!
The media will never be on side, the story of evil drug dealers is just so nice and easy for the twobit hacks who populate the world.
Just do it in secret and cage the ego, there are good resources for donating coin, search engines are your friend.
There is no such thing as good publicity for this place, the more attention we get, the more gov attention we get, it is that simple. Help those without, it is a good thing, but in our place we can not be so public!!
WBWG xxx
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Please please please keep totals/reciepients secret!! I am no expert, tho this sounds like it could fall under money laundering legislation, or at least get unneeded IRS/HMRC attention. Do you think these people with little enough money as it is need something like that?!
The media will never be on side, the story of evil drug dealers is just so nice and easy for the twobit hacks who populate the world.
Just do it in secret and cage the ego, there are good resources for donating coin, search engines are your friend.
There is no such thing as good publicity for this place, the more attention we get, the more gov attention we get, it is that simple. Help those without, it is a good thing, but in our place we can not be so public!!
WBWG xxx
Obviously I changed the amount and recipient! I was just getting a point across.
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i dont think we should be so negative towards the idea of public image. it is a concrete fact, this community is going to become more and more in the spotlight. the media will always paint things in a sensationalist light but i think the public opinion towards drugs has changed. hell, a very very large percentage of people under the age of 40 have experience with drugs now (30 years ago, that statistic was very different, and it is that generation that is currently in power). just yesterday the guardian ran an article with a very high ranking member of british LE calling for an end to the drugs war. a bunch of drug dealers giving away hundreds of thousands of euros anonymously to charities will definitely make people think. no matter what way the media portrays it.
with regard to that sale listing, that is by no means the only donation we'll make. the majority have not and will not be broadcast to the outside world, it's enough to know it helps someone. we don't care who else knows :)
the old ladies and the politicians will still think the same way. who cares, they'll be dead soon enough.
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one things for sure, this is definitely a world first. as far as i know anyway. i can't remember any other organization of drug dealers and users getting together to have a charity event.
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The media will never be on side, the story of evil drug dealers is just so nice and easy for the twobit hacks who populate the world.
We've already had encouraging coverage on 'All Things Vice' which has been picked up by other blogs such as 'The Daily Dot', 'US Web Daily' and others. As for the mass media, as I wrote earlier, I can think of at least some Guardian journalists in Britain who might be willing to run the story without negative bias.
Writing of which, I've just found this on the Grauniad site :D
(Clearweb) http://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/aug/21/dread-pirate-roberts-silk-road
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I am no expert, tho this sounds like it could fall under money laundering legislation, or at least get unneeded IRS/HMRC attention. Do you think these people with little enough money as it is need something like that?!
This is an interesting point. Would be nice to have this checked by a lawyer or someone knowing what he is talking about.
We can't deny to be a bunch of criminals. :D
As far as I know even Hells Angels do some charity fundings in Germany but LE are struggling to proof that it is a criminal organization in court. Maybe that is why they are able donate to charity.
A solution could be to donate it randomly to several chosen organizations.
I would still like to see a monthly pot from vendors and buyers as well. :)
If that is not possible due legal problems, we have to continue doing it hidden. The non-hidden solution would be less altruistic but fighting for two goals the same time. Charity and against the war on drugs.
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Charities have an obligation to refuse donations they reasonably suspect come from proceeds of crime or are in other ways unethical (e.g. cancer charities accepting donations from tobacco companies for research). So if a big song and dance is made about X amount coming from the vendors of Silk Road, I guess that would count as being 'reasonably suspect' if that exact amount suddenly appeared in their bitcoin account.
What I don't know is how they can refuse an anonymous bitcoin donation. Do they have to hand it over to the authorities? Is there any way of proving it came from Silk Road? I guess that whatever rule they have for accepting or refusing a big bag of anonymous cash also applies to an anonymous bitcoin donation.
x Eiley
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Please please please keep totals/reciepients secret!! I am no expert, tho this sounds like it could fall under money laundering legislation, or at least get unneeded IRS/HMRC attention. Do you think these people with little enough money as it is need something like that?!
The media will never be on side, the story of evil drug dealers is just so nice and easy for the twobit hacks who populate the world.
Just do it in secret and cage the ego, there are good resources for donating coin, search engines are your friend.
There is no such thing as good publicity for this place, the more attention we get, the more gov attention we get, it is that simple. Help those without, it is a good thing, but in our place we can not be so public!!
WBWG xxx
I wont go into detail about what I'll be doing to anonymize the funds but the beauty about btc is that funds can be obscured and then donated in such a way that the donations are indistinguishable from other donations.
To all vendors donating, please anonymize your donations, spread them out over a few days and such so there is no correlation to be made with the amount you are donating.
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Thanks for listening to my points. I get that there are some media types who are generally sympathetic, but it is not them who the politicians are going to listen to when TSHTF, it is going to be roid raged Daily Mail et al, it is they who make social policy here in the UK.
Idea. How about saying, HEY!! We just donated X to [insert corporate astrotuff 'charity' name here], while secretly ferreting away cash to gooduns.
I for one am pleased at how helpful the Taxpayers Alliance have been in taking our coin.
WBWGxxx