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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: incubusdriver on September 19, 2013, 09:21 pm
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You may remember a recent thread regarding 'Ghost-Posting' and other writing services - well, it's finally arrived.
For vendor profile and product listing re-writes, as well as for help building your presence here on the forums, visit Wicked Words using the link in my signature.
Or, to browse my original post, visit this link: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=210402.msg1524468#msg1524468
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Kudos to you for this business venture. I'm a writer myself. Good luck!
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I have to ask OP, what the origin of your moniker?
I love Incubus and their best known hit, Drive.
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I am an accomplished writer, contact me if you ever need help.
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lolerzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Hey guys!
Kudos for taking your first entrepreneurial steps to making a living .
Its funny for me .. ok ok okok Im sorry
If you want to sell writing and you are using writing to garner attention .
In order to get sales, you 've got to get peoples attention, create a memory point, Should your first impression, the written announcement above = should it be worthy of a Pulitzer, a rock my world masterpiece!? Yes most certainly , especially if you are writing to sell your writing.
you want me to enlist you to write. well gosh .. Please show me stuff better than I can do. I hate writing. and please show college level vocabulary. show some humor, wit, an above average intelligence..
Or at least so says me! But hey , whadda I know? all the above was more or less hypothetical . Im just saying that
I get the strong impression, as if a presence has entered the room.. yes , yes it is ..... like aliens I am surrounded by internet kids.. uh huh.. push a button and something happens. sure does.
Give it a go. put just a little more effort . just a little to the thinking of what you are doing, what you want. what you think will happen . choose a couple different routes, or themes , do pros and cons on each then choose what you think will be the best Put your self in the shoes of your customer and be cynical and sarcastic while reviewing your own work.. Gauge the results you think you are going to achieve. Put your best guess in action , check it twice then then what.. run away.... run dont look back! Jokes..... learn from both your mistakes and your successes.
Remember that Shortcoming and mistaikes always teach you more than success does,. Remember to take some pride taht at least you have contributed and through selfless all consumed contribution to me and only me will you then become enlightened and my little green men in bright white suits will come and take you away so that you can kiss the sky!!!!!
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Papasteeze, you speak a certain amount of encrypted sense, I'll attempt a response :-)
Kudos for taking your first entrepreneurial steps to making a living .
These are not my first entrepreneurial steps to making a living. Thanks for the kudos, really. But I already run a full-time writing business in the real world, so I got over the first hurdles many years ago.
If you want to sell writing and you are using writing to garner attention .
In order to get sales, you 've got to get peoples attention, create a memory point, Should your first impression, the written announcement above = should it be worthy of a Pulitzer, a rock my world masterpiece!? Yes most certainly , especially if you are writing to sell your writing.
you want me to enlist you to write. well gosh .. Please show me stuff better than I can do. I hate writing. and please show college level vocabulary. show some humor, wit, an above average intelligence..
Please do visit my vendor profile. If you don't feel it rocks your world adequately, do pass on a message to my complaints department ;-)
I get the strong impression, as if a presence has entered the room.. yes , yes it is ..... like aliens I am surrounded by internet kids.. uh huh.. push a button and something happens. sure does.
Give it a go. put just a little more effort . just a little to the thinking of what you are doing, what you want. what you think will happen . choose a couple different routes, or themes , do pros and cons on each then choose what you think will be the best Put your self in the shoes of your customer and be cynical and sarcastic while reviewing your own work.. Gauge the results you think you are going to achieve. Put your best guess in action , check it twice then then what.. run away.... run dont look back! Jokes..... learn from both your mistakes and your successes.
Remember that Shortcoming and mistaikes always teach you more than success does,. Remember to take some pride taht at least you have contributed and through selfless all consumed contribution to me and only me will you then become enlightened and my little green men in bright white suits will come and take you away so that you can kiss the sky!!!!!
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Sorry, you've lost me.
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I think this is a niche the Road needs and I believe you will find some success. That being said, without trying to be harsh, here are my honest thoughts after reading your profile:
What sales experience do you have that is relevant? Is any of it on Silk Road? Have you ever had a vendor account? Do you know what is actually important to have in a vendor's profile? How much experience with various types of drugs do you have? Are you going to be able to write an excellent product description for drugs that you have not actually used? Where can I see other reviews you have left? Etc.
I also found the alliteration a bit gimmicky ('vicious' vendor profiles? trying a bit too hard maybe) and it seemed to me that your page lacked some real substance, mainly in the form of more Silk Road specific content as mentioned above.
Anyway, I do think there are a lot of people who need a service a like this, and I wish you the best of luck.
edit: Also, I would find a vendor that appears to have excellent product but really needs your services and offer to do it for free. Then you can point to that vendor on your profile as an example. Just a thought.
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Papasteeze, you speak a certain amount of encrypted sense, I'll attempt a response :-)
Brilliant! :D
Page looks good...you've alleviated my concerns.
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Papasteeze, you speak a certain amount of encrypted sense, I'll attempt a response :-)
In the spirit of a good ol' fashioned debate. Thank you for the following rebuttal
Kudos for taking your first entrepreneurial steps to making a living .
These are not my first entrepreneurial steps to making a living. Thanks for the kudos, really. But I already run a full-time writing business in the real world, so I got over the first hurdles many years ago.
Okay - although do recognize that something in your prose led me to believe that you are starting
If you want to sell writing and you are using writing to garner attention .
In order to get sales, you 've got to get peoples attention, create a memory point, Should your first impression, the written announcement above = should it be worthy of a Pulitzer, a rock my world masterpiece!? Yes most certainly , especially if you are writing to sell your writing.
you want me to enlist you to write. well gosh .. Please show me stuff better than I can do. I hate writing. and please show college level vocabulary. show some humor, wit, an above average intelligence..
Please do visit my vendor profile. If you don't feel it rocks your world adequately, do pass on a message to my complaints department ;-)
Will do, however I shouldn't have to look any farther than with in the announcement/advertisement/spam for validation.
I get the strong impression, as if a presence has entered the room.. yes , yes it is ..... like aliens I am surrounded by internet kids.. uh huh.. push a button and something happens. sure does.
Give it a go. put just a little more effort . just a little to the thinking of what you are doing, what you want. what you think will happen . choose a couple different routes, or themes , do pros and cons on each then choose what you think will be the best Put your self in the shoes of your customer and be cynical and sarcastic while reviewing your own work.. Gauge the results you think you are going to achieve. Put your best guess in action , check it twice then then what.. run away.... run dont look back! Jokes..... learn from both your mistakes and your successes.
Remember that Shortcoming and mistaikes always teach you more than success does,. Remember to take some pride taht at least you have contributed and through selfless all consumed contribution to me and only me will you then become enlightened and my little green men in bright white suits will come and take you away so that you can kiss the sky!!!!!
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Sorry, you've lost me.
Me too I 'm lost . naaa not really, what I did there was try to create a short, fun, yet informative piece, with a zinger at the end that hopefully creates a memory point and or causes a person to go back and read again BTW. CorkScrew did a very nice job of laying out some specifics. At a glance we both said the same thing. Follow his critique, not mine.
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shouldn't the food speak for itself?
how will it serve the interests of SR if all you're doing is dressing shit up as diamonds?
the food, pics, reviews is what matters. be off with you! ;)
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Hey Cork1Screw.
I already wrote a couple of bits for vendors before setting up my vendor profile, many of whom have left comments scattered about my various threads (mainly my main thread in the 'Product Offers' section).
Also, thanks for your comments and support. I'll try to address the questions you raised:
What sales experience do you have that is relevant? Is any of it on Silk Road?
As mentioned, I already worked with a few vendors prior to setting up my vendor profile, to test the waters and get a feel for what was needed. I don't want to point to their profiles etc incase they'd rather keep it private (because oddly enough, some people - both here and in the real world - don't like their customers knowing they sought external help, even though it's a common business practice).
Have you ever had a vendor account? Do you know what is actually important to have in a vendor's profile?
No, this is my first vendor account. I only know what's important based on the guidelines set by Silk Road regarding policy, my knowledge of how Silk Road works as a buyer, the input provided by vendors when they order, and from what they've already tried to communicate in their existing copy.
How much experience with various types of drugs do you have? Are you going to be able to write an excellent product description for drugs that you have not actually used?
I have tried several drugs, but there are loads I haven't. This is where the vendor's expertise comes into play - a vendor should know their shit. If they don't, they shouldn't be vending. And if they expect me to know about everything about their specific product, they'd probably be unwise. In the real world, I have to become an overnight expert in numerous industry's and more specific niches. One week I might have to become fluent in workflow automation software, another I might have to learn the ins and outs of light rail infrastructure. I rarely know everything about a product before writing about it, but I have the ability to quickly understand even complex concepts with minimal input from the supplier of such product or service. Most vendors already have all the information I need in their profiles/listings, and for those who don't, I can ask questions.
Where can I see other reviews you have left? Etc.
I have already completed my first sale as a vendor and the feedback is now in view. The buyer in question is not using an alter-alias for his feedback, and the product listing shows what he/she ordered. Hopefully this is enough for other potential buyers to find - using only minimal research - items I've delivered previously. Of course, other examples aren't necessarily going to be relevant to the next person's order. Whereas one person might have low sales and might want some marketing spin to drive sales higher, another might have high sales but issues with terms which they want communicating more clearly.
I also found the alliteration a bit gimmicky ('vicious' vendor profiles? trying a bit too hard maybe) and it seemed to me that your page lacked some real substance, mainly in the form of more Silk Road specific content as mentioned above.
Fair play. I like gimmicky when it's tongue-in-cheek, which is what I was going for with my listing titles. Of course, I imagine it doesn't always come across as tongue-in-cheek, and could come across to many as just plain cheesy.
I really do appreciate the advice, but the gimmicks are going to stay at least for now ;-)
Again, thanks for your input. And +1!
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how will it serve the interests of SR if all you're doing is dressing shit up as diamonds?
It won't. And the shit dressed in diamonds will quickly be abolished with consumer reviews.
But I'm going to put this forward: What about the sparkling gems that are wearing a coat of stitched arseholes? How will users of SR ever discover those sparkling gems if all they can see are the arseholes?
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bummer
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message me a title and i'll write you a short story while on AMT.
for free
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how will it serve the interests of SR if all you're doing is dressing shit up as diamonds?
It won't. And the shit dressed in diamonds will quickly be abolished with consumer reviews.
But I'm going to put this forward: What about the sparkling gems that are wearing a coat of stitched arseholes? How will users of SR ever discover those sparkling gems if all they can see are the arseholes?
I think you are getting at what I was attempting with the "SR FOX Scale"......? I'll help if you want. I think our species is on the verge of a major evolution. First it'll be the "Narcotics Revolution" and then the "Psychedelics Revolution". With the missing link not actually missing.... Arylcyclohexylamines. Lily was right, I think at least. And I'm going to try and do a format/re-install of my 8-circuits here soon (Leary). Junkie Love! What if we cared for each other as much as a fiend does for a fix? I've been seeing a lot of people ready to self-actualize and transcend lately. I think the SR is gonna be a pivotal part of the new era.
Ironically, my next pulp-fiction zombie story with a junkie twist plays on this. What if the Chinese Chemists make a Research Chemical that actually does turn people into zombies, and already having them hooked, 99.9% of the world main-lines a taste for brains at once? So the tale of Redd and Grey unfolds.... Well, Grey dies in the first 3,000 words. Ha.
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message me a title and i'll write you a short story while on AMT.
for free
That's a very kind offer. Not sure quite how I'd use it... but for entertainment purposes, please go ahead and post your results in this thread :-)
Title: "The Midget's Journey Through the Purple Dimension"
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Papasteeze, you speak a certain amount of encrypted sense, I'll attempt a response :-)
These are not my first entrepreneurial steps to making a living. Thanks for the kudos, really. But I already run a full-time writing business in the real world, so I got over the first hurdles many years ago.
"Thanks for the kudos, really, but I already operate a full-time writing propriety, which is authentic; so, I overcame the early hurdles many years ago."
If you are really a journalist or an author, please try to show it through your writings. If I was your editor, I would have to smack you one for the laziness in being grammatically correct.
I use to think, because I'm only talking in online forums, that it made no sense, whether or not I made an effort, to have my authoring correct, based on the English standard. I have, however, come to realize that, by not doing so, it causes people trying to learn my language to wrongfully accept my novice mutterings as being CORRECT when the opposite is true.
I, however, DO have a degree in English! If you need a good editor, let me know on here!
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Thanks for the kudos, really. But I already run a full-time writing business in the real world, so I got over the first hurdles many years ago.
"Thanks for the kudos, really, but I already operate a full-time writing propriety, which is authentic; so, I overcame the early hurdles many years ago."
If you are really a journalist or an author, please try to show it through your writings. If I was your editor, I would have to smack you one for the laziness in being grammatically correct.
I'm not a journalist, nor am I an author - I'm a copywriter.
And although I appreciate the offer of a lazy-smack, it's worth noting that it wasn't the authenticity of my writing business I was talking about. Rather, it was to do with running a writing business based in 'the real world' as opposed to over the 'deep web' (or, the TOR network).
If you want my opinion on the two sentences, I'm going to say that I find yours more difficult to draw meaning from - and whether or not it's more correct, copywriting is about making an impact on a particular audience using the written word.
If I were tasked with selecting my sentence or yours as a sentence to use in a piece of marketing collateral (bizarre situation, I know), I'd still select mine regardless of accuracy, as I feel it connects more naturally. Of course, that's pure opinion.
Of course, the last thing I'd like to bring up, is that different English-speaking countries use the English language very differently; what is correct in Australia for example, may not be quite so in Canada. Taking your use of commas in your penultimate paragraph for example, I'd hazard a guess that you're from the United States. I could, of course, be wrong :-)
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If you want my opinion on the two sentences, I'm going to say that I find yours more difficult to draw meaning from - and whether or not it's more correct, copywriting is about making an impact on a particular audience using the written word.
If I were tasked with selecting my sentence or yours as a sentence to use in a piece of marketing collateral (bizarre situation, I know), I'd still select mine regardless of accuracy, as I feel it connects more naturally. Of course, that's pure opinion.
I thought precisely the same when I compared the two. Now you have two opinions ;)
Peace,
Sugarleaf