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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: isallmememe on August 08, 2013, 02:08 am
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page won't load for me
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same
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It isn't working for me either.
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Yep. "Problem loading page."
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Dead.
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:c
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DOH!
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Same.
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Yes, and I hope it's just a server overload!
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I seriously hope its just server overload
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This happens all the time, it's nothing to worry about. It's down for me too.
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guess im on edge after freedom went down
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This would be a good time to update your browser, ensure javascript is disabled and ensuring NoScript is properly setup everyone ;) Just in case.
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out for me as well.
thankfully my orders were marked in transit this afternoon from the vendor :)
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guess im on edge after freedom went down
During the recent years the government has sold guns 2 the mexican cartels, distributed child porn, and allowed carders to keep stealing. Even if the gov did own SR they wouldnt shut it down just yet .. i feel like they would be more then willing to let some drugs get sold in hopes of a big fish ... it wouldnt be the worst thing in recent history done by the federal government
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And I was just about to log off,
After the recent Tormail fiasco and other security related stuff I gotta hang round and make sure everything is ok
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down for me as well
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Think I'll grab myself a beer and sit back, relax.
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SilkRoad has been seized by the FBI, the same way they shut down Tormail.
Breaking news!
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me neither
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If you were to freak out every time SR went down, you'd have the heart of a very, very old man by now.
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Could we please get a link on that breaking news?
Being a buyer is way more stressful than vending; At least that's the way it is for me...
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Could we please get a link on that breaking news?
Being a buyer is way more stressful than vending; At least that's the way it is for me...
Lol! ;-)
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any official message from admins or mods?
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Being a buyer is way more stressful than vending; At least that's the way it is for me...
For me, vending is far more stressful. I've even considered ceasing operations. Or taking time off, at least.
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Could we please get a link on that breaking news?
Being a buyer is way more stressful than vending; At least that's the way it is for me...
Really? I bet it's at least 32 times more stressful being a vendor.
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I just loaded 500 BTC into my SR wallet.
Perhaps that was too much and it brought the system down.
sorry.
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any official message from admins or mods?
Seriously. Is anyone minding the store?
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Well, fuck.
Hindsight's a bitch and I had a feeling I needed to remove my spare btc from my SR wallet.
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^^^^^^^^^^^ya that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :P
Being a buyer is way more stressful than vending; At least that's the way it is for me...
For me, vending is far more stressful. I've even considered ceasing operations. Or taking time off, at least.
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Well I guess it just depends on what you're vending. We sell alprazolam blotters; Very easy to conceal.
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The End of the Road?
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The End of the Road?
I do hope not.
A message from one of the admins would be nice.
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I just loaded 500 BTC into my SR wallet.
Perhaps that was too much and it brought the system down.
sorry.
Change? you got some change for a vet down on his luck? ( shake's coffee cup with small amount fo coins at you, clearly not a vet )
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The End of the Road?
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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The End of the Road?
No mods or admins said anything on the matter..
until that happens I would just consider that a stupid rumor.
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This will all turn out to be DPR screwing with us for a laugh because he got bored.
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Wow, I feel so bad for all vendors here whos 10's of thousands worth BTC in their accounts haven't had a chance to withdraw, sucks but I REALLY hope we are up and running again soon.
Meerkovo
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any official message from admins or mods?
This would definitely be nice! The last time it went down, DPR came on within a very short period of time and informed everyone that it was a planned outage. This should be common practice IMHO!
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Could we please get a link on that breaking news?
Being a buyer is way more stressful than vending; At least that's the way it is for me...
Really? I bet it's at least 32 times more stressful being a vendor.
You've underestimated it there matey. Hundreds of buyer addresses in plaintext, they'll have our bitcoin withdrawal addresses, communications etc. None of them should identify vendors if they take the proper precautions, but how many times do we need reminding not every vendor takes proper precautions, for example, not storing customer addresses and not sending them in plaintext.
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Let's everybody just stay calm now! Don't hit the panic button. I'm sure we'll be up and running in no time. Stay positive. Let's will this to happen!
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Libertas decided that SR was breaking SR's rules and suspended the site until it apologizes to him.
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This will all turn out to be DPR screwing with us for a laugh because he got bored.
hope you are right sir! definitely dont have a good feeling..........
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just about out for 2 hours now. weird that no message is right but the little incoming baby aint too worried yet so i aint strappin on the pampers either.
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Strange. Works on onion.to....wtf?
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It's been working for me.
Am I missing something?
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Sorry guys, we'll get things back up and running asap!
And no, it's not "The End of the Road"! ;)
Libertas
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Libertas decided that SR was breaking SR's rules and suspended the site until it apologizes to him.
Bahahaha
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Sorry guys, we'll get things back up and running asap!
And no, it's not "The End of the Road"! ;)
Libertas
We'll believe you when it's back online ;) If they've compromised the road, they can compromise the forum easy enough.
Staff - when SR is down like this, sign your messages because even if you post it from your account, it is meaningless as we can't verify the authenticity of the message.
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This has happened more than a few times. The site will be back up by tomorrow. Dont getchur panties in a bunch people.
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Sorry guys, we'll get things back up and running asap!
And no, it's not "The End of the Road"! ;)
Libertas
ahhh now I can sleep tonight! thanks libertas! +1
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its only working on onion.to. I use .to check if its me or them, and it works fine. Why?
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Libertas decided that SR was breaking SR's rules and suspended the site until it apologizes to him.
^ This.
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lol whatever you do do not type your username and password in while viewing thru a .to site. I know its tempting but trust me :)
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The error of being able to access SR through .to is known, it's not malicious, it is simply a cached tor network description thing. Just don't log in via .to - ever.
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Could we please get a link on that breaking news?
Being a buyer is way more stressful than vending; At least that's the way it is for me...
Being a vendor is like BAZILLION times worse than being a buyer.
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SR goes down all the time. Stop stressing and wait until an Admin or DPR posts something.
And then stress...
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Libertas decided that SR was breaking SR's rules and suspended the site until it apologizes to him.
LMAO
THIS is the only thing is this whole thread worth reading....It is UNREAL how many of you hit the panic button every time SR go's down for 30min+
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Anyone who thinks being concerned about SR going down is crazy is simply delusional - look at FH, we don't know how that was exploited and probably won't for quite some time since extraditions take a long time, especially within the EU. Think of how many people on SR probably haven't disabled javascript because TBB leaves it on by default and how many probably haven't updated their browsers, then you'll see the threat magnitude and reason for paranoia.
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Sorry guys, we'll get things back up and running asap!
And no, it's not "The End of the Road"! ;)
Libertas
We'll believe you when it's back online ;) If they've compromised the road, they can compromise the forum easy enough.
Staff - when SR is down like this, sign your messages because even if you post it from your account, it is meaningless as we can't verify the authenticity of the message.
YOU have to be fucking kidding!! Jesus Christ, how in the world do you function on a daily basis??? You must be a prepper and believed in Y2k.
NO ONE has compromised a thing! Just like the other 300 times this has happened and all the crazies come in here and spread their paranoid bullshit.
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Libertas decided that SR was breaking SR's rules and suspended the site until it apologizes to him.
LMAO
THIS is the only thing is this whole thread worth reading....It is UNREAL how many of you hit the panic button every time SR go's down for 30min+
It is also unreal the lack of concern you have for your customer's safety. But you did name yourself the king after all so you must be the best because you named yourself so.
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was working 45 minutes ago. but now its down.
i wonder whats going on.
on a side note (im aware im preaching to the converted here in this great community, and many here could articulate my thoughts in a much better way but i just wanted to say, that
i feel it was positive universal karma in a MASSIVE way that this whole 'dealing 2.0' emerged in the past few years.
I find it remarkable and quite significant that this online global networkhas sprung up ,to enable trading in mind altering substances, plants, herbs and medicines of all kinds in a open and more informative environment. These substances should never have been demonized in the first place. and as a result many poor souls who need medical/mental health to improve their lives are now spending the rest of their lives in federal prisons !! . we must be in a modern dark-age? im inspired to walk down to my local shops with a fur skin vest and a viking shield for some reason haha!
the universe/higher self/god / whatever the mysterious power that lies behind this all, it has prompted much needed debate around the world in how we should be handling individuals freedom to ingest all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use and synthesise how we wish to. (i dont mean give heroin and acid to 6 year olds, i mean informed, improved management via government and community ) in 100 years it wont even be an issue. i hope.
im not sure how many of you have noticed lately, but there has been a huge push in advertising for 'multi vitamins'. its excessive. i grew up around hippies so even tho i love science/chemistry etc, i was always averse to all those multi vits etc. well a few months ago my family GP who is clearly western medical practitioner shocked me by warning me DO NOT TAKE ALL THOSE DAMN Multi-vitamins you see on tv. (i know there maybe exemptions in serious medical recovery etc)but what he said confirmed what i felt all along. generations from many countries have lived to very old age by simply eating the right food and getting lots of sun . and now what pisses me off is these new mini bright coloured candy looking packages of multi-vits for children!!!! WTF, i never saw that shit when i was growing up! that is such bull shit. legalized government sanctioned medicine suppliers feel more insidious than the dirtiest junky dealer hangin out on a street corner. those global pharma companies get away with the worst shit hidden right in public view. Oh yeh i just remembered now they have Ibuprofen for kids/infants. fucks sake, i never saw this shit growing up.
surely there are naturopaths and other health professionals who could suggest alternatives to giving your babies that ?
ahh sorry for ranting folks. ive been depressed with work and had no one to talk to about this shit thats been irking me!!.
I am a bad bad writer. my grammar is shocking so i do apologise!
ill shut up know.
hope SR gets back up soon!
Generally speaking, there seems to be a definite 'changing of the guard'
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I predict they are implementing updates to the site.
I hope!
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eh?^
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YOU have to be fucking kidding!! Jesus Christ, how in the world do you function on a daily basis??? You must be a prepper and believed in Y2k.
NO ONE has compromised a thing! Just like the other 300 times this has happened and all the crazies come in here and spread their paranoid bullshit.
I function quite well actually and for somebody who apparantly is so security concious as yourself, you'd know it was a serious matter. Oh, let me rephrase that, you outright reject the use of PGP despite it being recommended by every respected security orientated person here, you call astor a fool which he is not, you probably don't even follow any other guidelines for that matter regarding security. A king, you are only king of the fools. There is a reason DPR signs important stuff with his PGP code.
The whole "No PGP for the king" is total bullshit especially when nearly every vendor uses it and knows it's purpose. There is also a reason those who use PGP can be seen as those with a generally more secure approach to accessing SR and purchasing drugs. So don't try lecture me or call my reasoning for that out because for everything you think you have on me, there are many things I can point out on you as you'll find out in the upcoming vendor audit yourself. As a note, if I wanted to track you down IRL, it wouldn't take long and you're not the only vendor at risk here and something I have messaged DPR about to make a bannable offence if the practice continues.
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eh?^
Chinese for dental floss I think?
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dont knwo if its tru.....
If you were using Startpage on the clearnet (i.e. not through Tor) or you accessed onion.to through a browser other than TorBrowser (Firefox, Safari, Chrome, Opera, IE, etc.), then yes, Startpage and onion.to will know your real IP address.
However, if you're using the Tor Browser Bundle (Vidalia) and searched using Startpage in the upper right hand corner, then no, Startpage doesn't know your real IP address. Similarly, if you access onion.to with TorBrowser then they won't know your real IP address either. It just means you're being routed through two different Tor nodes, the one your TorBrowser is currently using and the one the onion.to site runs you through.
Sorry if that's a bit unclear, I'm severely sleep deprived at the minute! :P
- grahamgreene
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Libertas decided that SR was breaking SR's rules and suspended the site until it apologizes to him.
LMAO
THIS is the only thing is this whole thread worth reading....It is UNREAL how many of you hit the panic button every time SR go's down for 30min+
It is also unreal the lack of concern you have for your customer's safety. But you did name yourself the king after all so you must be the best because you named yourself so.
This is a typical response from someone that doesn't know shit.
So if I told you I was against the war in Iraq, does that mean I hate America, that I am against all war and I do not like guns???
No you dumb fuck, It means I have an education, that I am not smoking weed 24/7 and looking out my blinds for the DEA every 45 seconds. Sorry I am not a paranoid asshole, that spreads lies and what if's and worse case scenario every time something happens.
I take security serious.
I just do not believe for 1 second that pgp provides any security at all and I also do not think that every time SR does not load that the FBI took the site over.
These crazy's are WRONG every single time.
I have been right every single time. And I will this time. And the crazies will go back to there thread, post more bullshit with each other and keep being paranoid. One day they will be right. Just not this day.
And yes I am King. Read my feedback.
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dont knwo if its tru.....
If you were using Startpage on the clearnet (i.e. not through Tor) or you accessed onion.to through a browser other than TorBrowser (Firefox, Safari, Chrome, Opera, IE, etc.), then yes, Startpage and onion.to will know your real IP address.
However, if you're using the Tor Browser Bundle (Vidalia) and searched using Startpage in the upper right hand corner, then no, Startpage doesn't know your real IP address. Similarly, if you access onion.to with TorBrowser then they won't know your real IP address either. It just means you're being routed through two different Tor nodes, the one your TorBrowser is currently using and the one the onion.to site runs you through.
Sorry if that's a bit unclear, I'm severely sleep deprived at the minute! :P
- grahamgreene
Wait a moment...? Grahamgreene?....
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Chill out guys in the 7 months I've been here Silk Road has gone down at least 20 times, sometimes for several days.
As a note, if I wanted to track you down IRL, it wouldn't take long.
I'm sorry but I don't believe this, unless you are ordering from him and he's sending out fingerprints or DNA in his packages you have no idea what security precautions he's taking in regards to postage.
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Chill out guys in the 7 months I've been here Silk Road has gone down at least 20 times, sometimes for several days.
As a note, if I wanted to track you down IRL, it wouldn't take long.
I'm sorry but I don't believe this, unless you are ordering from him and he's sending out fingerprints or DNA in his packages you have no idea what security precautions he's taking in regards to postage.
Then you haven't noticed the part of offering tracking. It doesn't take much logical reasoning to deduce the obvious angles of attack for any vendor offering tracking.
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Man, some people have HUGE egos. It's actually kind of interesting
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someone is obviously tripping nuts on one of those "mind altering substances" right about now..
and as far as everyone freaking out as soon as the site hits a Problem loading page... lololol..
Jeeeeesus. i like to believe most of us have been around long enough to know.....
DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH... or go chasing water falls... you know, because?
site's cool, nothing is infiltrated, nothing is seized, DPR is working 24/7 to make the fiends be able to sleep for 2 hours before the mail runs..
and then boom boom boom, the lightening comes and Jesus raptures the Churches...
and all of the drugs are back in the babies hands again. (us being the babies, lol.)
regardless, the site is cool, life is cool.. ;)
/thumbs
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YOU have to be fucking kidding!! Jesus Christ, how in the world do you function on a daily basis??? You must be a prepper and believed in Y2k.
NO ONE has compromised a thing! Just like the other 300 times this has happened and all the crazies come in here and spread their paranoid bullshit.
I function quite well actually and for somebody who apparantly is so security concious as yourself, you'd know it was a serious matter. Oh, let me rephrase that, you outright reject the use of PGP despite it being recommended by every respected security orientated person here, you call astor a fool which he is not, you probably don't even follow any other guidelines for that matter regarding security. A king, you are only king of the fools. There is a reason DPR signs important stuff with his PGP code.
The whole "No PGP for the king" is total bullshit especially when nearly every vendor uses it and knows it's purpose. There is also a reason those who use PGP can be seen as those with a generally more secure approach to accessing SR and purchasing drugs. So don't try lecture me or call my reasoning for that out because for everything you think you have on me, there are many things I can point out on you as you'll find out in the upcoming vendor audit yourself. As a note, if I wanted to track you down IRL, it wouldn't take long and you're not the only vendor at risk here and something I have messaged DPR about to make a bannable offence if the practice continues.
DPR signs important stuff because you nut jobs always yell "FBI FBI" when he does not. And he actually forgets about 80% of the time.
Also, About the ONLY thing pgp is good for is to post a forum message and to prove you are the one with the Key to send it.
If pgp gives you security, then you are the fool.
My stance on PGP is well known. ITS FUCKING WORTHLESS.
But this thread is not about pgp. It is about the nut jobs that claim SR is taken over every single time SR go's down.
Also it is LAUGHABLE that you believe through tracking you could find me....that shows how LITTLE you know about true security. I do not doubt for one minute that you are a genius when it comes to computers....but when it comes to real life drug dealing, you know...the shit I do, you do not know shit. In fact you admit such.
And you CLEARLY do not know a fucking thing about USPS tracking. If you think that from tracking, you could see the ZIP CODE from where I ship, it just shows how little you know.
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someone is obviously tripping nuts on one of those "mind altering substances" right about now..
and as far as everyone freaking out as soon as the site hits a Problem loading page... lololol..
Jeeeeesus. i like to believe most of us have been around long enough to know.....
DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH... or go chasing water falls... you know, because?
site's cool, nothing is infiltrated, nothing is seized, DPR is working 24/7 to make the fiends be able to sleep for 2 hours before the mail runs..
and then boom boom boom, the lightening comes and Jesus raptures the Churches...
and all of the drugs are back in the babies hands again. (us being the babies, lol.)
regardless, the site is cool, life is cool.. ;)
/thumbs
Man it'd be cool to smoke a bowl with you some day.
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Chill out guys in the 7 months I've been here Silk Road has gone down at least 20 times, sometimes for several days.
As a note, if I wanted to track you down IRL, it wouldn't take long.
I'm sorry but I don't believe this, unless you are ordering from him and he's sending out fingerprints or DNA in his packages you have no idea what security precautions he's taking in regards to postage.
Then you haven't noticed the part of offering tracking. It doesn't take much logical reasoning to deduce the obvious angles of attack for any vendor offering tracking.
Well i'm not sure about the security implications for American vendors, but in Australia express satchels are not trackable to the point of sale, and even if they were you can buy them off the net anyway. The express bins that vendors here post in are everywhere around major citys and most don't have cameras on them. Vendors can provide tracking on every order here if they wish without any security risk.
I'm sure in America there are work-arounds for providing tracking without putting themselves at risk, for every problem in the drugs game there are clever solutions.
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Oh man, if SR is ever hit by an exploit, some of you are gonna end up on your ass so badly that it's worrying. Being very cautious is the only way you're going to avoid being caught - period. You might get away with it for a few days, months or even years, you might even leave before you ever are found, but one day it'll bite you in the ass and unless you know when it's going to happen, you're running the risk.
"And you CLEARLY do not know a fucking thing about USPS tracking. If you think that from tracking, you could see the ZIP CODE from where I ship, it just shows how little you know. "- The fact you think this in itself shows how little you know. Do you think if you send a package to the white house, the DEA etc that you'll be safe? They can trace almost all mail no problem, they traced that ricin despite being made in a clean room with no DNA and no other evidence on the envelope, they just traced it back from 1 letter. Given the many you send out every day, this significantly amplifies the risk. You get away with it for now, your packaging sounds great, but when you land on your arse, boy you will land hard, and that's my point.
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its all good. if SR did end -which it wont,
we can all just go buy UAV's u know the type that can deliver beer at music festivals? or go old school and use skateboards and bmxs for late night park drop offs.
or start meeting up at the local Burger King carpark. :-P
Or KFC if u prefer chicken. whichever has the best playground to chill out on LOL ;-)
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Well i'm not sure about the security implications for American vendors, but in Australia express satchels are not trackable to the point of sale, and even if they were you can buy them off the net anyway. The express bins that vendors here post in are everywhere around major citys and most don't have cameras on them. Vendors can provide tracking on every order here if they wish without any security risk.
I'm sure in America there are work-arounds for providing tracking without putting themselves at risk, for every problem in the drugs game there are clever solutions.
The fact this nerd said he could track me down in real life...just shows what a loser he is. As soon as he was called out on it...he brings up tracking!
He knows NOTHING about tracking, nothing about real life security. He knows about computers. PERIOD. And he should stick to that. I have no problems with the things he says in here based on computers. BUT when it comes to real life security he is useless.
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ahh sorry for ranting folks. ive been depressed with work and had no one to talk to about this shit thats been irking me!!.
Maybe a couple Multi-Vitamins would help you through this tough time ;-)
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Well i'm not sure about the security implications for American vendors, but in Australia express satchels are not trackable to the point of sale, and even if they were you can buy them off the net anyway. The express bins that vendors here post in are everywhere around major citys and most don't have cameras on them. Vendors can provide tracking on every order here if they wish without any security risk.
I'm sure in America there are work-arounds for providing tracking without putting themselves at risk, for every problem in the drugs game there are clever solutions.
The fact this nerd said he could track me down in real life...just shows what a loser he is. As soon as he was called out on it...he brings up tracking!
He knows NOTHING about tracking, nothing about real life security. He knows about computers. PERIOD. And he should stick to that. I have no problems with the things he says in here based on computers. BUT when it comes to real life security he is useless.
Oh man, you know less about me than I thought. I'm not that good with computers actually, 2 programmers I work with for the upcoming project can testify for that as well as astor, kmf, pine, guru, nightcrawler, all people held in the highest of respects for their contributions. My work is in real life, hence why I disagree. Tracking is always tracable, it may not be put under another column in their database, but that doesn't mean it can't be traced. Ricin letters, lookup those stories where they left no dna evidence, took insane security precautions and still hunted down even without tracking and that was 1 letter. You have a much great exposure surface than them.
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RxKing, aren't you the one who said the javascript exploit had to do with child porn and that tormail had nothing to do with it?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=196649.msg1422026#msg1422026
Then I believe several world renown security experts, programmers, the darkweb community etc analysed it and it was in tormail? I remember that. You said that after all the reports were released too. Funny you call my knowledge of security into question when you seem to deny one of the most widely known and confirmed facts of the deepweb in recent times.
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"And you CLEARLY do not know a fucking thing about USPS tracking. If you think that from tracking, you could see the ZIP CODE from where I ship, it just shows how little you know. "- The fact you think this in itself shows how little you know. Do you think if you send a package to the white house, the DEA etc that you'll be safe? They can trace almost all mail no problem, they traced that ricin despite being made in a clean room with no DNA and no other evidence on the envelope, they just traced it back from 1 letter. Given the many you send out every day, this significantly amplifies the risk. You get away with it for now, your packaging sounds great, but when you land on your arse, boy you will land hard, and that's my point.
Sexto...I know you are a very smart guy....BUT I think you should stick to what you know. Not what you do not know.
I 100% could send ricen to the White House and those dumb fucks would not come looking for me. Why? Because I am an EXPERT in what I do. Like you are in what you do.
Do you really think that someone like my self, just gets stamps and drops my packages in a little blue USPS box? Do you think I do not know a lot more then you on this subject?( I do)
I can mail someone a package and make it come from Boston when I am in Los Angele's. Again, this is not about me and how I ship or what to do or not do. I only commented about tracking because YOU said that you could hunt me down.
I am sure I have mailed packages to the DEA. As long as the finalize fast and do not ask stupid questions,I am fine with it. I actually treat every single package as if it is going to the DEA or FBI.
Also I have been here for 1.5 years. And I have a perfect record for a reason.
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its all good. if SR did end -which it wont,
we can all just go buy UAV's u know the type that can deliver beer at music festivals? or go old school and use skateboards and bmxs for late night park drop offs.
or start meeting up at the local Burger King carpark. :-P
Or KFC if u prefer chicken. whichever has the best playground to chill out on LOL ;-)
Hungry Jacks u mean? xD
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The onion.to link is working. Any one can comment on why?
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RxKing, aren't you the one who said the javascript exploit had to do with child porn and that tormail had nothing to do with it?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=196649.msg1422026#msg1422026
Then I believe several world renown security experts, programmers, the darkweb community etc analysed it and it was in tormail? I remember that. You said that after all the reports were released too. Funny you call my knowledge of security into question when you seem to deny one of the most widely known and confirmed facts of the deepweb in recent times.
I 100% said that. BUT I was not talking about the javascript exploit. I was talking about the guy who got busted.
Also glad you have a memory that allows you to remember something from 1 day ago.
And when I said you are good at computers...I didn't mean literally.
Also there is a HUGE difference from a vendor that sells a little weed on here and myself.
Also if your memory is so well...how about the other 20 + times SR has gone down and all the crazies jumped in the forum and said SR is compromised and they were dead wrong? EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Don't confuse my hatred for PGP as that means I am not about security.I just KNOW pgp provides none.
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how does PGP not provide security?! Are you MAD?! Of course it does, it is very effective, it's impossible for anyone who doesn't have my private key to decrypt a message that was encrypted with my public key.
QM
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Hey Kid...
Stop all the doooowwnnloadiin'
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Sorry guys, we'll get things back up and running asap!
And no, it's not "The End of the Road"! ;)
Libertas
We'll believe you when it's back online ;) If they've compromised the road, they can compromise the forum easy enough.
Staff - when SR is down like this, sign your messages because even if you post it from your account, it is meaningless as we can't verify the authenticity of the message.
YOU have to be fucking kidding!! Jesus Christ, how in the world do you function on a daily basis??? You must be a prepper and believed in Y2k.
NO ONE has compromised a thing! Just like the other 300 times this has happened and all the crazies come in here and spread their paranoid bullshit.
This is great ^^^
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dont knwo if its tru.....
If you were using Startpage on the clearnet (i.e. not through Tor) or you accessed onion.to through a browser other than TorBrowser (Firefox, Safari, Chrome, Opera, IE, etc.), then yes, Startpage and onion.to will know your real IP address.
However, if you're using the Tor Browser Bundle (Vidalia) and searched using Startpage in the upper right hand corner, then no, Startpage doesn't know your real IP address. Similarly, if you access onion.to with TorBrowser then they won't know your real IP address either. It just means you're being routed through two different Tor nodes, the one your TorBrowser is currently using and the one the onion.to site runs you through.
Sorry if that's a bit unclear, I'm severely sleep deprived at the minute! :P
- grahamgreene
Huh. Toe jammer. Your entire syntax has changed. You also signed your post grahamgreene. You said in the meth thread you are not, nor have you ever been, a vendor.
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So i went to a hotspot used the TBB to access SR via the onion.to and it worked,
Withdrew my BTC without issues. Not sure what is going on but it seems weird that the .onion.to link works but the .onion does no.
The BTC have withdrawn without problems.
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So i went to a hotspot used the TBB to access SR via the onion.to and it worked,
Withdrew my BTC without issues. Not sure what is going on but it seems weird that the .onion.to link works but the .onion does no.
The BTC have withdrawn without problems.
Forgive my noobishness, but what's the difference? Just tried onion.to and it worked, I haven't logged in because I don't know what it is.
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So i went to a hotspot used the TBB to access SR via the onion.to and it worked,
Withdrew my BTC without issues. Not sure what is going on but it seems weird that the .onion.to link works but the .onion does no.
The BTC have withdrawn without problems.
Are you saying that you have successfully withdrawn your BTC on SR to your other wallet? Are those coins in your other wallet now? Because I need to do a coins withdrawal too.
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So i went to a hotspot used the TBB to access SR via the onion.to and it worked,
Withdrew my BTC without issues. Not sure what is going on but it seems weird that the .onion.to link works but the .onion does no.
The BTC have withdrawn without problems.
Forgive my noobishness, but what's the difference. Just tried onion.to and it worked, I haven't logged in because I don't know what it is.
Better don't mate. Onion.to might keep your login details without your permission. Because you are accessing through them, they will have some kinda logs. Couldn't explain much because I'm a noob in tech too. Hope someone here could explain to our friend here.
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Libertas decided that SR was breaking SR's rules and suspended the site until it apologizes to him.
Bahahaha
Hahahaahahahah. Choking with laughter here.
Although Love ya Libertas! <3
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So i went to a hotspot used the TBB to access SR via the onion.to and it worked,
Withdrew my BTC without issues. Not sure what is going on but it seems weird that the .onion.to link works but the .onion does no.
The BTC have withdrawn without problems.
This cant be secure AT ALL! I see so much at risk doing that.
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how does PGP not provide security?! Are you MAD?! Of course it does, it is very effective, it's impossible for anyone who doesn't have my private key to decrypt a message that was encrypted with my public key.
Yes. Please elaborate.
Are you just assuming its all crackable by now?
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Libertas decided that SR was breaking SR's rules and suspended the site until it apologizes to him.
^ This.
I quite literally spit out my beer and laughed out loud @ that. That was very funny.
If you didn't get a good laugh outta that.. you don't know the forums :)
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It's down for the typical Chinese Fire Drill. We'll be back after a message from our sponsors...
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how does PGP not provide security?! Are you MAD?! Of course it does, it is very effective, it's impossible for anyone who doesn't have my private key to decrypt a message that was encrypted with my public key.
QM
Ok I will address this one more time. Though I have about 200 times in the last 16 months.
Using pgp to send a message is secure in the sense you said. Meaning you are 100% correct that only someone with your key can READ the message. And everyone would assume only you know your key and you do not have it written down anywhere. I don't disagree with that at all.
BUT I am ONLY talking about using pgp for Addresses. The fact is that I HAVE to read it and write it down, and that is where the security risk is. Once I open it, then it is just like anything else without PGP.
And ALL of the people that preach pgp are doing so based on the fact that one day SR will get compromised and if you do not use pgp for your address, then your address will be on the servers.( I do not believe that) BUT....THAT IS IT! And I agree that if you use pgp for your address when placing an order that yes indeed your address will never be on SR in anyway.
I for one do not think SR will get compromised. And if I am wrong, and it is, then I do not think an address means anything. In fact I KNOW it does not. Not one person would ever get prosecuted or have anything happen to them based on an address found somewhere on the darknet.
The fact is, the security threat for the buyer will not be protected in ANY WAY with PGP. It gives a total false sense of security. And actually adds nothing.
I will give you an actual case where it is useless. Unlike the so called Guru's on here that always say what if...I will tell you what happened.
So these idiots always say to only use a vendor with pgp. O.k, fair enough, so you believe their total bullshit and you do that and you believe you are totally safe. Now what happens when that vendor that uses PGP decides to write every address down and save them? How did your pgp help you there? It did not!!! It did nothing for you. And that lies the problem with pgp.
The fact is that pgp gives buyers a false sense of security and offers no true security. If you want REAL security as a buyer, then you should only deal with a vendor that would never do something so stupid(as to keep anything at all ever) a vendor that has proven over a long period of time that they should be trusted, and a vendor that knows what the fuck he is doing.
A PROFESSIONAL.
But there are ALWAYS going to be security risk, and the fact is we have to send drugs through some sort of mail, and that is hands down the biggest security threat. As a package with drugs in it with your name on it...it a lot bigger threat then an address on a some server from 5 months ago.
The real and only risk for a buyer is when you get the package. It is all about the package. If a vendor gets pulled over going to the post office and they find all his packages, does PGP help you? If a vendor writes everything down and has a drug house....does pgp help you? If the vendor you use, is a druggie himself and been in trouble before, would you want him with your address??? Does pgp protect you from them?
I could go it to a lot more detail but this is not the place, and any one with a brain would understand what I mean when I say that PGP is WORHTLESS. All that matters is the person that is opening the pgp. Worry about that guy.
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The onion.to link is working. Any one can comment on why?
I'd like to know this too
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So i went to a hotspot used the TBB to access SR via the onion.to and it worked,
Withdrew my BTC without issues. Not sure what is going on but it seems weird that the .onion.to link works but the .onion does no.
The BTC have withdrawn without problems.
This seems sketchy to me... I would not jump to those measures at this point...
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We've got some cabin fever goin' on, methinks.
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And ALL of the people that preach pgp are doing so based on the fact that one day SR will get compromised and if you do not use pgp for your address, then your address will be on the servers. THAT IS IT!
I for one do not think SR will get compromised. And if I am wrong, and it is then I do not think an address means anything. In fact I KNOW it does not. That not one person would ever get prosecuted or have anything happen to them based on an address.
That depends on the size of the order, or the order history. LE will probably be interested in people who have purchased tens of thousands of dollars worth of drugs. And in any case, LE doesn't throw away intel. Buyer addresses will definitely get filed away and can be used later to build cases.
This is where your opinion differs from most people here, who don't want to take that risk.
So these idiots always say to only use a vendor with pgp. O.k, fair enough, so you believe there total bullshit and you do that and you believe you are totally safe. Now what happens when that vendor that uses PGP decides to write every address down and save them? How did your pgp help you there? It did not!!! It did nothing for you.
We "security gurus" have repeatedly pointed out it doesn't protect you from that, just as PGP doesn't protect you from every threat you are potentially exposed to on the darknets, like if LE takes over a server and sends an exploit to your browser.
On a related note, regarding this downtime, you say it's nothing and the server has gone down many times before. That's true, but the FH server also went down for maintenance many times in its five year history. It only mattered the last time it went down, and a lot of people got pwned (we'll see what comes of that), but you'll never know which time that is, so it's important to be cautious each time something happens.
It's incredibly careless to believe that the SR will never be compromised, as you said, but that's in line with your general attitude about the technical side of security, it seems.
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RxKing - just because a security measure can be defeated by having poor security in other areas does not make that security measure useless. PGP is hardly worthless, as you claim. Sure, installing GPA and encrypting your address doesn't create a shield around you that keeps away LE forever lol. But, nothing can do that (and if someone has an LE shield generator - contact me NOW!). Using end-to-end encryption for your communication is still a good idea that certainly can't hurt. It removes many middle-man worries from the situation, and puts the focus on the vendor.
This said, yes, the most important thing is using a trustworthy vendor that has firm security policies in place. We, for example, decrypt and then promptly print addresses and never save anything to disk. The only records we keep are paper copies of tracking w/ recipients initials (no address, nickname, or proper name), and those are kept in a hidden/secure safe and destroyed in a high-security cross-shredder as soon as the transaction is finalized.
And seriously - it is nothing short of dangerous to suggest that were SR compromised by LE, addresses would not be used against people. They would 100% be added to a watch list and kept indefinitely. Sure, as a small timer buyer with no criminal record it's probably not going to matter. But that's definitely not everyone here I am sure.
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On the original topic: SR... COME BACK!!! I have stuff to do!
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The onion.to link is working. Any one can comment on why?
I'd like to know this too
The onion.to link is not working anymore for me now.
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The onion.to link is working. Any one can comment on why?
I'd like to know this too
The onion.to link is not working anymore for me now.
You're joking right? onion.to ?
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Still working for me. Not sure why but I am going to call it a night and hope this is resolved in the AM
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The onion.to link is working. Any one can comment on why?
I'd like to know this too
The onion.to link is not working anymore for me now.
! He killed it.
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The onion.to link is working. Any one can comment on why?
I'd like to know this too
The onion.to link is not working anymore for me now.
You're joking right? onion.to ?
I'm not mate, off course I won't even try to log in via onion.to, just wanna check and see is the site accessible through onion.to link like some of the people said.
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I swear if it's that damn hacker that shut us down for a few days last time I'm gonna throw myself a little bitchfit, smoke a bow, and chill out.
Eh, that doesn't sound so bad after all.
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I swear if it's that damn hacker that shut us down for a few days last time I'm gonna throw myself a little bitchfit, smoke a bow, and chill out.
Eh, that doesn't sound so bad after all.
Oh I hope it's not, it lasted nearly a week last time.
2 more hours till my local post's cut -off time, and shit I can't even know how many orders I've got, can't ship anything out and can't get in contact with my customers. f man.
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Grabbing another beer and kicking back some more.
If I'm fucked, I might as well do something enjoyable now.
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I'm gonna throw myself a little bitchfit, smoke a bow, and chill out.
You're going to smoke a pound?
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I'm gonna throw myself a little bitchfit, smoke a bow, and chill out.
You're going to smoke a pound?
Northeast United States slang; particularly from New Jersey and Pennsylvania, "schmokin a bow" ...
Ya dig? :P
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So i went to a hotspot used the TBB to access SR via the onion.to and it worked,
Withdrew my BTC without issues. Not sure what is going on but it seems weird that the .onion.to link works but the .onion does no.
The BTC have withdrawn without problems.
Did you use HTTP or HTTPS before the URL? Because if you used HTTP, then your connection left an exit node unencrypted before hitting onion.to and being proxied back to the SR hidden service. The exit node could have sniffed your SR credentials.
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I'm sure the magic SR staff will solve the problem soon (as always). ;)
Notice to customers with orders to be confirmed: as soon as SR will return up , I will confirm and ship orders..
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RxKing - just because a security measure can be defeated by having poor security in other areas does not make that security measure useless. PGP is hardly worthless, as you claim. Sure, installing GPA and encrypting your address doesn't create a shield around you that keeps away LE forever lol. But, nothing can do that (and if someone has an LE shield generator - contact me NOW!). Using end-to-end encryption for your communication is still a good idea that certainly can't hurt. It removes many middle-man worries from the situation, and puts the focus on the vendor.
This said, yes, the most important thing is using a trustworthy vendor that has firm security policies in place. We, for example, decrypt and then promptly print addresses and never save anything to disk. The only records we keep are paper copies of tracking w/ recipients initials (no address, nickname, or proper name), and those are kept in a hidden/secure safe and destroyed in a high-security cross-shredder as soon as the transaction is finalized.
And seriously - it is nothing short of dangerous to suggest that were SR compromised by LE, addresses would not be used against people. They would 100% be added to a watch list and kept indefinitely. Sure, as a small timer buyer with no criminal record it's probably not going to matter. But that's definitely not everyone here I am sure.
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On the original topic: SR... COME BACK!!! I have stuff to do!
PGP for all messages is INSANE!
But if you read your message again, you will see that you actually agree with me! It is worthless. But I really do not care what you do.
I do not copy shit. I do not keep receipts of any kind. I do not keep tracking. I keep nothing. Nothing is where I live. I never drive with anything. I trust no one IRL. I do not sell drugs IRL.
I do not need to hold onto anything for any reason. PERIOD.
Though my first week here, almost 1.5 years ago, I needed to keep tracking information until the package was delivered as there are many scumbags here that will try and take advantage of you being a new vendor and will try and scam you. But the King does not have any of those scumbags as customers ;)
One thing buyers know from you is, though you use PGP for all messages on Silk Road, if the DEA go to your house they will find the shipping information you store in your secure safe. Good thing you only use initials.
But at least you keep the information in a safe. As safes are impossible to get into. Also your safe, unlike many, is hidden and secure.
How long you been a vendor for?
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PGP for all messages is INSANE!
Most of us tech gurus don't advocate for encrypting all messages. I have never said buyers should encrypt all SR messages. In fact, I've repeatedly told people it's a waste of the vendor's time to encrypt all messages, if they are just asking about the product or inquiring when their order will ship.
Where you disagree with us is on addresses (and tracking numbers, although that doesn't come up much in conversation), which are sensitive pieces of information. They identify buyers. Sorry it takes too much time for you to decrypt those encrypted addresses, but I consider my security to be more important than your convenience, and I am never getting one of my shipping addresses on any LE list, especially when it's so easy to avoid. Unlike you, I am not confident that the SR server will never be compromised.
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SR is up! woohooo!
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SR is up! woohooo!
lol... I read this whole thread starting with the first post... obviously I should have started with the last! ::)
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yup!!
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WHEEEEE! It's back up.
lol @ everyone pushing the panic button on the shortest downtime ever
and big +1 to the mods/staff being all over that, long live SR!
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I'm gonna throw myself a little bitchfit, smoke a bow, and chill out.
You're going to smoke a pound?
Not what Gengar17 meant... but, it is a seriously worthwhile experience to have an indoor bonfire with cannabis plants. Having smoked out an entire basement before (couldn't see your hand in front of your face), I can say that it's a highly memorable way to consume a ton of cannabis with friends.
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sounds dangerous and like an expensive waste of bud, but that's just me...
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For some reason, I decided to read this entire thread even though SR was running fr me since the beginning. Do I get a cookie?
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For some reason, I decided to read this entire thread even though SR was running fr me since the beginning. Do I get a cookie?
a nookie cookie
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dunno about the rest of you's but i'm just getting this under the sr logo
Sorry, an error was encountered.
We could not process your request.
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its still down, anyone know wtf is going on??
this is starting to piss me off now, i ain't got anything right now and i can't even window shop over all those lovely durgs.
this is fucking important goddammit!!
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Site is still down for me. Page rejects almost immediately.
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is up :)
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dont knwo if its tru.....
If you were using Startpage on the clearnet (i.e. not through Tor) or you accessed onion.to through a browser other than TorBrowser (Firefox, Safari, Chrome, Opera, IE, etc.), then yes, Startpage and onion.to will know your real IP address.
However, if you're using the Tor Browser Bundle (Vidalia) and searched using Startpage in the upper right hand corner, then no, Startpage doesn't know your real IP address. Similarly, if you access onion.to with TorBrowser then they won't know your real IP address either. It just means you're being routed through two different Tor nodes, the one your TorBrowser is currently using and the one the onion.to site runs you through.
Sorry if that's a bit unclear, I'm severely sleep deprived at the minute! :P
- grahamgreene
Huh. Toe jammer. Your entire syntax has changed. You also signed your post grahamgreene. You said in the meth thread you are not, nor have you ever been, a vendor.
dude.. do a search u will see that this is lifted from a paragraph written by "grahamgreene" not me. but him.. word for word in response to u using onion.to i wondered why it was so horrible to use it as well. also if u search and find the info posted by grahamgreene u will see that i did add the top line. I am still just me and never been anyone else.
No need to extort me behind the scenes. we can work out here in the open for all to see.
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I was never trying to extort you. For me to extort you I would have to of been the only person to know this secret. Seeing as how the comment immediately after yours quotes it, and then later on I question it, would leave me with nothing to extort, as several people have already seen it thanks to myself and another.
Just a jab. Take it easy.
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Try closing out TOR and re-downloading the newest browser version. Other than that, try a different "Identity" and make sure there is no "www." in front of silkroadvb5piz3r.onion
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he talks one toe the mellon and gets up smiling again.. ;)
All good man. sorry just a little jumpy.. we still tight.
ahh NOW lets find some good meth.. WHAT WAIT.. i already did.
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I'm gonna throw myself a little bitchfit, smoke a bow, and chill out.
You're going to smoke a pound?
Northeast United States slang; particularly from New Jersey and Pennsylvania, "schmokin a bow" ...
Ya dig? :P
Ghost gets it. xD
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LOL, all you say is true, but who is talking about pgp protecting you for something encryption has nothing to do with, such as a vendor writing down your information on a piece of paper, or buying drugs online? I was only referring to the security pgp is advertised to provide - assuring you that only the person you send your message to reads it. That's all it does, no more no less. PGP is an encryption for sending information. And it does that very well, that's what I was arguing. Who said it was anything more? That's like saying, since I was using pgp encryption to encrypt a message while I was driving 100MPH down the road in my car, I am safe from a cop catching me and giving me a ticket. Just because we use pgp encryption in the process of a transaction on SR, doesn't mean that we're safe from every possible security breach during each step and in every other facet of the transaction besides sending an encrypted message. The only safeguard pgp protects us from is the actual sending and receiving of an encrypted message. Anyone who thinks it is anything more is not too bright. That's why we talk about stealth packaging, going to many post offices to send multiple packages, and other safeguards. Because we know that other possible breaches of security require other solutions. And everyone on SR knows about most of these, especially stealth packaging. So when we talk about PGP encryption providing security, we're not talking about security for buying something on SR, we're talking only about security in sending and receiving a message - that's it.
QM
how does PGP not provide security?! Are you MAD?! Of course it does, it is very effective, it's impossible for anyone who doesn't have my private key to decrypt a message that was encrypted with my public key.
QM
Ok I will address this one more time. Though I have about 200 times in the last 16 months.
Using pgp to send a message is secure in the sense you said. Meaning you are 100% correct that only someone with your key can READ the message. And everyone would assume only you know your key and you do not have it written down anywhere. I don't disagree with that at all.
BUT I am ONLY talking about using pgp for Addresses. The fact is that I HAVE to read it and write it down, and that is where the security risk is. Once I open it, then it is just like anything else without PGP.
And ALL of the people that preach pgp are doing so based on the fact that one day SR will get compromised and if you do not use pgp for your address, then your address will be on the servers.( I do not believe that) BUT....THAT IS IT! And I agree that if you use pgp for your address when placing an order that yes indeed your address will never be on SR in anyway.
I for one do not think SR will get compromised. And if I am wrong, and it is, then I do not think an address means anything. In fact I KNOW it does not. Not one person would ever get prosecuted or have anything happen to them based on an address found somewhere on the darknet.
The fact is, the security threat for the buyer will not be protected in ANY WAY with PGP. It gives a total false sense of security. And actually adds nothing.
I will give you an actual case where it is useless. Unlike the so called Guru's on here that always say what if...I will tell you what happened.
So these idiots always say to only use a vendor with pgp. O.k, fair enough, so you believe their total bullshit and you do that and you believe you are totally safe. Now what happens when that vendor that uses PGP decides to write every address down and save them? How did your pgp help you there? It did not!!! It did nothing for you. And that lies the problem with pgp.
The fact is that pgp gives buyers a false sense of security and offers no true security. If you want REAL security as a buyer, then you should only deal with a vendor that would never do something so stupid(as to keep anything at all ever) a vendor that has proven over a long period of time that they should be trusted, and a vendor that knows what the fuck he is doing.
A PROFESSIONAL.
But there are ALWAYS going to be security risk, and the fact is we have to send drugs through some sort of mail, and that is hands down the biggest security threat. As a package with drugs in it with your name on it...it a lot bigger threat then an address on a some server from 5 months ago.
The real and only risk for a buyer is when you get the package. It is all about the package. If a vendor gets pulled over going to the post office and they find all his packages, does PGP help you? If a vendor writes everything down and has a drug house....does pgp help you? If the vendor you use, is a druggie himself and been in trouble before, would you want him with your address??? Does pgp protect you from them?
I could go it to a lot more detail but this is not the place, and any one with a brain would understand what I mean when I say that PGP is WORHTLESS. All that matters is the person that is opening the pgp. Worry about that guy.
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LOL, all you say is true, but who is talking about pgp protecting you for something encryption has nothing to do with, such as a vendor writing down your information on a piece of paper, or buying drugs online? I was only referring to the security pgp is advertised to provide - assuring you that only the person you send your message to reads it. That's all it does, no more no less. PGP is an encryption for sending information. And it does that very well, that's what I was arguing. Who said it was anything more? That's like saying, since I was using pgp encryption to encrypt a message while I was driving 100MPH down the road in my car, I am safe from a cop catching me and giving me a ticket. Just because we use pgp encryption in the process of a transaction on SR, doesn't mean that we're safe from every possible security breach during each step and in every other facet of the transaction besides sending an encrypted message. The only safeguard pgp protects us from is the actual sending and receiving of an encrypted message. Anyone who thinks it is anything more is not too bright. That's why we talk about stealth packaging, going to many post offices to send multiple packages, and other safeguards. Because we know that other possible breaches of security require other solutions. And everyone on SR knows about most of these, especially stealth packaging. So when we talk about PGP encryption providing security, we're not talking about security for buying something on SR, we're talking only about security in sending and receiving a message - that's it.
Um........... As to your last sentence...who is "we're"?
we're talking only about security in sending and receiving a message - that's it.
Hey QM,
All I am ever talking about in regards to pgp...is using it for sending your address when placing an order....and CLEARLY I am always talking only about that..I already asked you who "we're" is...but if that includes Astor...then I believe you are totally wrong.
The way you quoted my message....where you put your answer to what I say at the top of your post is confusing,I believe. And your response is confusing...it reads to me like you have not read one thing I, along with Astor(who has the complete opposite opinion of me) have said about pgp...He will even admit to you that I have been taking my stance about PGP for over 16 months in these forums..and that every single time I have ever mentioned pgp....I am only talking about using it for putting an address on the order page.
In reading your message..it is not clear at all if you are agreeing with me or if you are saying I am wrong. BUT the one thing that is clear to me is that you believe that pgp is worthless....it is just a layer...and in layer..I mean shit. As in a layer of shit.
Hope your well!
Rx