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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: BusinessMentality on December 15, 2012, 02:50 am
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Okay so pretty much I don't mean to start a shit storm with his frequent customers, you obviously have got things established with him and whatnot, I am making this thread to show those newcomers that are on SR or potential buyers who want to buy from him, the side of mrouid I have seen personally. To summarize, I was interested in BUYING a sample of his m39 but his smallest order of m39 was 6oz. I offered to pay for 1-2g as a sample to pass around and let a select couple of my friends try the sample to compare to whose m39 was TRULY top notch and to settle my curiosity, I always thought mtljohns stuff was better but I respected mrouid's packaging from what I read so you can win with either, but I don't smoke myself, I am strictly in it for business and when it comes down to it, better quality wins. Anyways..
Anyways, here is the convos from top to bottom the WHOLE thing from point A to point B, Take NOTE of the DATE/TIMES as the recent as of the past few days are the side I want to show potential buyers.
Keep in mind, my opinion is if you run a business and a person offers to possibly buy massive quantities frequently contingent that the product is of good quality, you don't try to passively get someone to buy 6oz or wait for a 7g listing when 7g is not of use, you make a custom listing and please your CUSTOMERS. That is just my opinion and we each have our own, keep in mind, this is opinion based and some will agree while others will not.
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Crayola91 Very professional.
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mrouid(99) NO 19 hours read
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Crayola91 Not telling you how to run your business, but the way I evaluate products to decide who I want to give business to is of my concern, you are putting me in the position saying I am not a serious buyer but if you look at it from a business point of view, it is an investment on your behalf where you don't lose money since I am offering to cover all costs, you have to go to the post office for other orders, how hard is it to package 1-2grams on the side as a BUSINESS INVESTMENT for a big future buyer.
Now if the reason you want me to buy 7g over 1-2 as a sample is because you know johns m39 is better and you know I won't go for yours and you want to get as much as you can before I realize, then that is a different story, I would appreciate honesty in that matter.
I just think it is wrong to deny a potential buyer depending if the product is good (which is how business is, not sure why you seem so offended because of that) a simple order, you say empty promises, I say it is more of a contingency upon the product being as good as you claim, nothing more, you don't have to like me, i don't have to like you if that is how you want to do business, but if you have a product I want and I have the money I don't see why you don't want a few thousand extra a week from me.
empty promises = Business investment, think about it that way. From experience, when someone is asking to pay and not get a freebie on a sample, you go for it and put forth your best effort, because everyone could use money and if you don't need it then I don't know why you are on SR.
now I ask politely, if you would be so kind, to make a custom listing for 1.5g I will cover shipping cost as well, I would greatly appreciate it, this is strictly a business and if you have the better product you will have my business, I have specifically 8 buyers willing to buy m39 under the condition it isn't garbage. That is all I am asking for, I read on the forums you are a fair person, I didn't expect this to be a big deal. 20 hours read
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mrouid(99) Anyone who isn't willing to buy 7g is not serious enough to give consideration to IMO. I'm already spending 15 hours a day working to get orders out so why should I give myself even more work based on nothing but empty promises? 20 hours read
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Crayola91 So considering I am willing to buy pounds every other week off you if I decide to pick your m39, making a 1-2g sample (paid by me) is out of the question? sorry but I don't need 7g, I'd be better off giving the money to a homeless person 1 day read
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mrouid(99) I do 7g listings usually but they are all sold out. Probably next week I'll have more. 1 day read
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Crayola91 Ahh, wouldn't be able to do a 1g custom listing or something? I want to determine whose m39 I want to give all my business to but I can't buy an oz of stuff which would serve me no use past the 1st gram or two as a sample, let alone the smallest order you have of m39 that is 6oz.
Just need 1g to determine if I am gonna buy pounds of the stuff or not, I don't even smoke weed so I hope you don't think I want a deal or something on the 1g for just pleasure, sadly investing in 6oz of your stuff just isn't worth it to give a sample to 3 close friends and 7 dealers under them, I wouldn't even need an oz for that.
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mrouid(99) No sorry I don't have anything I can do for 2.20 btc.
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Crayola91 Like a set-up type of thing? I just want a business partner who knows how to get packages without it being taken by customs, good quality and better prices. He told me he has another account on here that is a vendor he is starting up with lower prices but like I would rather go with whoever has better quality.
So as I asked earlier, would you be able to shipout a sample? I have 2.20 BTC on this account left over from my last purchases, I want to show your product to my group of guys and see if they want me to pick up a QP or HP for starters.
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mrouid(99) MTLJOHN ahhhg I would not recommend doing business with this guy under any circumstances. Look up his name on the Community Forums you will see. He actually had a lot to do with my troubles and getting my account suspended. 2 days read
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Crayola91 I was hoping to grab some m39 but I blew my "weed funds" on another vendor which my stuff should be arriving, I ended up finding MTLJOHN who is sending me 3.5g sample free as of last week or so but I kinda want to see who has the best m39 on SR so I can decide who I want to buy from specifically and seeing how he disappeared from SR as of lately I don't think I know him well enough to go outside of SR with just yet.
Anyways, I don't want to ask for freebies as a sample, I have 2.20btc EXACTLY on my account right now left over, is there any sample you can send me for that much? I have 3 great friends of mine who will need me to directly buy m39 and frequently, not small orders too, smallest order from me once I get settled in will probably be a QP/HP which will clear in 2-3 days but I want to buy a pound minimum per order if that's cool, and they know I am getting a sample of johns stuff but I told them about your packaging and reputation and they want to see whose product they want to sell.. Is there anything you can do for 2.20btc? for me?
Sorry for long story, I kinda am happy to see you back man so I tend to type a lot when I am in a good mood.
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mrouid(99) There was some situation where I violated vendor TOS accidentally but all was straightened out.
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Crayola91 Holy shit you're back, last time I was about to message you back you were freaking gone, heard some shit went down? I didn't even notice ur listing are back up until I saw I had a listing saved from you. Wtf happened man?
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mrouid(99) I'm not really allowed to suggest that but if you send cash to a drop location that I can set up for you then that will save a huge amount of overhead which allows me to cut the price for you. But that means only if you trust me and don't go through Silk Road at all. If you want to do that you should create a pgp key so I can send you the address securely. 1 month
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Crayola91 How would you suggest about going that route? just curious I'm not sure what way you are trying to imply lol sorry as you can tell im new to SR and not sure of many things
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Once again, not here to start a shit storm with his frequent buyers, but in my opinion he handled his business unprofessional and I thought it was unfair and rude, his business is his business as I have stated in the convo, but how I decide who to give my business to is up to me and I don't like being told I can't get a custom listing cause it is out of his way when he is acting like I am the only customer he has to go to the post office for, not hard to add 1 more package that takes a few minutes to wrap/box, 1-2 grams is not the same time frame of stealth packaging as 1-2pounds.
Anyways was just showing this in case anyone was on the fence, I am not hired by mtljohn or have bought anything of john either, I am just looking for a good supplier with the best m39 in Canada that I can buy from frequently and I believe if you are going to be rude without stating a truly valid reason and deny a person who wants to give you business, that you should question yourself on why you are on SR if you aren't here to make money.
Anyways I'm not going to be arguing with any of his friends or him directly, I just stated my opinion, you can all state yours, I'm just showing my side of things and how I think it could of been handled more professionally
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Nuuuuu :( I knew someone was gonna say that haha.
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i respect your opinion but im gonna side with mrouid on this. i know plenty of small dealers who wont sell anything under 2 grams cuz its a waste of their time. bigger quantities and less packages is the goal. its not like you cant make money off of it if its not better than the other dudes m39. at a 675 a qp i can easily make a ton of that in no time even if its not grade A. its still gonna be good ass bud for cheap. i wouldnt bother with 1 or 2 grams either if i were selling a ton of weed like him. minimum i would do would be an eighth but thats just me.
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I get your point of view, I just think as a business man an investment that costs you zero money even if it isn't what you are used to, should be given to a potential buyer. It's not like he would have to go the post office JUST for me, it would be with other orders too, only difference is, he is packaging 1 small order and never again from me, just a 1 time thing that could have lead to me spending at least 4-6thousand every week to other week depending on how high the demand was.
That's just how I see it in my head but others are entitled to see from their view too.
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BusinessMentality: You want to buy from 7-11 and the vendor you contacted is a CostCo or SamsClub, I don't think you are playing this in the right fashion, at all. Your approach is very 'thick', and not very conservative for a sample request. That is all.
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Perhaps elaborate how I could of been less "thick" (not sure what you mean by thick to be honest)? always open to constructive criticism when elaborated. I personally don't see how I could of been any nicer/professional, this is a business for both of us after all
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Okay so pretty much I don't mean to start a shit storm with his frequent customers, you obviously have got things established with him and whatnot, I am making this thread to show those newcomers that are on SR or potential buyers who want to buy from him, the side of mrouid I have seen personally. To summarize, I was interested in BUYING a sample of his m39 but his smallest order of m39 was 6oz. I offered to pay for 1-2g as a sample to pass around and let a select couple of my friends try the sample to compare to whose m39 was TRULY top notch and to settle my curiosity, ##### I always thought mtljohns stuff was better but I respected mrouid's packaging from what I read so you can win with either, but I don't smoke myself, I am strictly in it for business and when it comes down to it, better quality wins. Anyways..#####
HA! Christ, John, can't you make things just a LITTLE more believable?! I mean seriously, come on.. School-boy errors right there. This isn't going to be any fun if you're making a fool of yourself instead of everyone else doing it to you. :'(
The part above in the "#####" is what I'll draw attention to though:
You "always thought mtljohns stuff was better but I respected mrouid's packaging from what I read so you can win with either" - so you've never actually tried mrouid's product, yet you thought mtljohn's stuff was better?! Pray tell, how does that work?! ;D
Ah, wait, then there's this: "but I don't smoke myself, I am strictly in it for business and when it comes down to it, better quality wins. Anyways.."
Despite not smoking it yourself, mtljohn's stuff was better, and you know it's better quality than mrouid's. Seeing as you've never tried mrouid's M39, only read about his packaging, that is very strange! ;D Are you a psychic smoker perhaps?! Do you sample his M39 from the comfort of your bed using your MIND!?! :o Incredible stuff!!
Anyways, here is the convos from top to bottom the WHOLE thing from point A to point B, Take NOTE of the DATE/TIMES as the recent as of the past few days are the side I want to show potential buyers.
Keep in mind, my opinion is if you run a business and a person offers to possibly buy massive quantities frequently contingent that the product is of good quality, you don't try to passively get someone to buy 6oz or wait for a 7g listing when 7g is not of use, you make a custom listing and please your CUSTOMERS. That is just my opinion and we each have our own, keep in mind, this is opinion based and some will agree while others will not.
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Ah, you're quoting entire conversations again, just like you always did! How coincidental!! ;D Not only do you continue to disrespect the privacy of members and Vendors, but you attempt to use their replies against them, as if to try and slander their good name despite you coming across as the child you've always been and the child you remain! Oh dear, John. Oh dear!! ;D
his business is his business as I have stated in the convo, but how I decide who to give my business to is up to me and I don't like being told I can't get a custom listing cause it is out of his way when he is acting like I am the only customer he has to go to the post office for, not hard to add 1 more package that takes a few minutes to wrap/box, 1-2 grams is not the same time frame of stealth packaging as 1-2pounds.
That right there, if you were a legitimate buyer, would be the cause of your problems. You state "I don't like being told I can't get a custom listing cause it is out of his way when he is acting like I am the only customer he has to go to the post office for", yet YOU would be the one acting as though you are the only customer in the world. You're so pathetic, mtljohn.
My reply to a legitimate buyer would be thus:
mrouid has more than enough business, and is well established enough, not to have to bother with 1g sample orders (unlike yourself ;)) Outrageous behaviour on your part, and an incredibly immature manner in which to conduct your business here.
You ask one of the top vendors on Silk Road (in the top 2%, meaning he is one of the busiest - he himself stating that he works 15 hours a day) to make a custom listing for you for a tiny amount of weed to 'sample', instead of waiting for a 7g listing and using chump change to purchase that; when he declines to put up a custom listing, you pester him about it and try to get him to acquiesce, then when he declines yet again, you get 'snotty'.
If you are willing to buy a pound a week, you can afford to pay for a 7g sampler. Simple as.
Anyways was just showing this in case anyone was on the fence, I am not hired by mtljohn or have bought anything of john either, I am just looking for a good supplier with the best m39 in Canada that I can buy from frequently and I believe if you are going to be rude without stating a truly valid reason and deny a person who wants to give you business, that you should question yourself on why you are on SR if you aren't here to make money.
Anyways I'm not going to be arguing with any of his friends or him directly, I just stated my opinion, you can all state yours, I'm just showing my side of things and how I think it could of been handled more professionally
I'm sorry, mtljohn; you may have changed your writing style a little, and toned down your ridiculous accusations a tad but you are still incredibly transparent.
That last quoted part just really made it though. Why would anyone be "on the fence" when it comes to ordering from you (and your now suspended) account or ordering from mrouid, given how you have conducted yourself here in the past?! ::) Still mentioning "the best M39 in Canada".. Fucking hell. You're a pillock of the highest order, mtljohn, and you're far too egotistical (ironically, about nothing seeing as you could barely move more than grams!) to be able to hide in plain sight here. Just leave. Seriously.. You're making such a fool of yourself.. I'm actually a little embarrassed for you... :-[
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I didn't read all of that because the early sentences state you believe I am john? how would I be john? everyone who copy/pastes = john? seriously bro you need to relax and just realize I have my opinion and I stated it, this forum entitles me to do so, if you believe I am someone else that is your business, but respect my opinion and this thread as I am just stating my opinion and I said I wasn't here to argue. So relax please.
As for john, yes he may do things that I personally would go about differently, such as public relations, but one thing I cannot fault him with, is he understands what investment is, enough to send 3.5g for free and knows there is a chance I will say "sorry my guys ended up not wanting to use you as a supplier due to quality" and I will always respect him for that.
I am not on anyones side, once again this is like music, opinionated and we each have our own so there is no argument from my part, just opinions.
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I didn't read all of that because the early sentences state you believe I am john? how would I be john? everyone who copy/pastes = john? seriously bro you need to relax and just realize I have my opinion and I stated it, this forum entitles me to do so, if you believe I am someone else that is your business, but respect my opinion and this thread as I am just stating my opinion and I said I wasn't here to argue. So relax please.
As for john, yes he may do things that I personally would go about differently, such as public relations, but one thing I cannot fault him with, is he understands what investment is, enough to send 3.5g for free and knows there is a chance I will say "sorry my guys ended up not wanting to use you as a supplier due to quality" and I will always respect him for that.
I am not on anyones side, once again this is like music, opinionated and we each have our own so there is no argument from my part, just opinions.
Sorry kid, not buying it. ::)
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It's okay man, I don't need you to buy it, I'm not selling anything, just trying to state my opinion here. I don't want an argument I just wanted to be treated like any other person that gets tended to with an inquiry for product in a positive manner with a good outcome.
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Where have I seen that before?
Sup john :) how's the banlife?
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I dunno if possible but perhaps maybe SR can show the location of me vs john's through IP and maybe then you will realize I am not john? simple because I quote, and that copy/pasting forces me to tell you to read bottom to top doesn't mean I am john, if I didn't say "Read bottom to top" would that change your opinion?
You guys are more focused on accusing me of being john when in reality he is not even in the same province I am in (assuming he lives in Montreal lol) than the actual point of the thread.
If you guys have nothing to really contribute other than negativity I would appreciate silence from the two of you.
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It's okay man, I don't need you to buy it, I'm not selling anything, just trying to state my opinion here. I don't want an argument I just wanted to be treated like any other person that gets tended to with an inquiry for product in a positive manner with a good outcome.
To humour you:
You contacted one of the top 2% vendors on the site - meaning he is busier than 98% of all other vendors - asking him to create a custom 1-2g sample listing for you when, if you were serious about buying pound weight, you would certainly be able to purchase a 7g sample. He declined, and you got ratty about it; you kept pestering him for it until he told you in no uncertain terms that he did not want your business as it consisted of empty promises seeing as you couldn't even afford to wait a week to buy a 7g listing. This is a vendor that pays incredibly attention to the detail of his packaging, whether it is 7g or 908g, so packaging your little 1-2g sample is an inconvenience that he clearly does not need.
As you can see from previous replies in this thread by various members, you come across as having a severe attitude problem. Similar to mtljohn funnily enough, but how and ever.
Back to the topic at hand:
Listings disappear either when a vendor takes the listing down or when he sells out of that particular listing; mrouid wasn't "passively trying to get you to buy 6 Oz", he was clearly just too busy (in the run up to Christmas) to list and pack more 7g orders as he was planning on leaving for the weekend (as stated on his profile page), much less list and pack a worthless 1-2g order when he has numerous LB orders coming through at the same time.
It's time vs. money. Nobody's time is worth a measly 2.2 BTC (less the cost of packing materials and postage, so more like 1.09 BTC) when they could be earning far more on larger orders.
You seem to think that an extra pound a week would be a game changer for mrouid, and that he should bend over backwards to get your custom and satisfy you by providing a 1 - 2g sample. Why is that? ??? Why do you place so much importance on yourself and your LB a week order? ???
You asked the man would he be willing to do it, he said "no but I'll have 7g listings back up next week sometime" which you could have purchased, yet you still pushed the issue. It's ridiculous. You acted like a child who didn't get his own way, so you come here to 'throw your toys from the pram' and badmouth him because you didn't get what you wanted. Ridiculous behaviour.
Having taken a little more time to think about it, my suspicions are even stronger that you are indeed mtljohn. We'll be watching you. :) And your new vendor account starting with "o". ;)
I dunno if possible but perhaps maybe SR can show the location of me vs john's through IP and maybe then you will realize I am not john? simple because I quote, and that copy/pasting forces me to tell you to read bottom to top doesn't mean I am john, if I didn't say "Read bottom to top" would that change your opinion?
You guys are more focused on accusing me of being john when in reality he is not even in the same province I am in (assuming he lives in Montreal lol) than the actual point of the thread.
If you guys have nothing to really contribute other than negativity I would appreciate silence from the two of you.
Ah, your infamous "lol". We've missed that around here. And your ridiculous contradictory statements "in reality he is not even in the same province I am in (assuming he lives in Montreal lol)" - it couldn't be a "reality" if you don't know now could it? You poor, stupid little man John.. I really do pity you. :'(
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Even if you're not John, you're not really any better. Why would you think anybody here would care to listen to you whinge about a vendor not wanting to do business with you? He offered one little hoop for you to jump through (wait ~1 week until he has a 7g listing up and purchase it), and you felt so wounded that you bitched him out via pm and then came directly here because your vagina wasn't quite empty yet to bitch him out some more. I mean, come on, really? This thread's right up there with those btkoin spam threads. ::)
just go away and let this nonsense fall off the first page. While you're away you can get some perspective that irl you gotta jump through WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more hoops to get the attention of a guy that moves the weight mrouid does than waiting a few days to buy a measly fucking 1/2 and sending a fucking pm from the comfort of your house. In my eyes, the fact that SR and vendors like mrouid have made it so fucking easy to gain access to this kind of weight would probably make me not want to act like such a petty little cunt.
If you're not mtljohn but just as dumb, I hope this opens your eyes. If you are mtljohn, you know what you can do to yourself. :)
edited to add: what graham said haha +1 to you
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Like I said, I was stating my opinion and mainly to show any potential buyers on the fence about going into business with him, the forums are made to communicate and I am entitled to my opinion am I not?
I do not ask for anyone to care, I am just SHARING an experience, take it however you want.
And also just gonna state, if you were familiar with m39 in canada, the prices mrouid has it for would be considered ludacris considering paying a few hundred more you can get medical grade or just much better potent herb, m39 isn't a great strain compared to the many to select from, it has great resale value and I wanted to see whose m39 was better, considering his is more expensive than johns I was curious. You can't challenge my opinion in this thread or this thread in general because I am sharing my experience and just showing it on the forums, I am not asking anyone to care.
Go to cannabis culture forums and tell em mrouids price on 2lbs and if you can find one person with a valid account that says it's even an average price (not made after this thread) I will buy you 2lbs worth of his product myself personally, because over there are seasoned massive growers, they won't even sell m39 for over 1400 even if it was the best thing they grew.
I would still buy johns though because I for one, am not a grower or have the connections to a m39 grower, 2 he understands business(referring to mrouids lack of seeing an opportunity) and 3 he has the quantity I will need. I'm just saying if you think mrouids prices are amazing, you can find better quality for much less.
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Prices are high on SR. Where should the committee send you the gold star you so clearly deserve?
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Like I said, I was stating my opinion and mainly to show any potential buyers on the fence about going into business with him, the forums are made to communicate and I am entitled to my opinion am I not?
You certainly are entitled to your opinion. Free speech - I'll get back to that in a few paragraphs.
I do not ask for anyone to care, I am just SHARING an experience, take it however you want.
How kind of you! I choose to take it as you being mtljohn. Nice try though.
And also just gonna state, if you were familiar with m39 in canada, the prices mrouid has it for would be considered ludacris considering paying a few hundred more you can get medical grade or just much better potent herb, m39 isn't a great strain compared to the many to select from, it has great resale value and I wanted to see whose m39 was better, considering his is more expensive than johns I was curious.
I am familiar with M39 in Canada, thank you very much. I'm also aware of the concept of being a middleman. Nobody expects anybody to work for free, and mrouid makes the quantity of sales that he does because people are generally incredibly satisfied with the price:quality ratio that he provides. He is entitled to make as much profit as he wishes on that; if people are happy with the price, they will buy it. If not, they won't. Funny how this just turned back into your old little arguments though. You're too predictable!
You can't challenge my opinion in this thread or this thread in general because I am sharing my experience and just showing it on the forums, I am not asking anyone to care.
Can't I? But what about that free speech that enables you to state your opinion? Doesn't it allow others to state their opinions as well, and isn't free speech the reason that one can challenge an opinion? Your inability to grasp the concept of logical fallacy betrays you, mtljohn. You haven't changed a bit. ::)
Go to cannabis culture forums and tell em mrouids price on 2lbs and if you can find one person with a valid account that says it's even an average price (not made after this thread) I will buy you 2lbs worth of his product myself personally, because over there are seasoned massive growers, they won't even sell m39 for over 1400 even if it was the best thing they grew.
Ooh, here's a good one! Somebody who cannot even afford to pay for a 7g sample, seeing as they only have 2.2 BTC left in their account, is going to buy 2 LBs of product for me for proving him wrong. Whyyyyy?! WHY are you so stupid?! HOW are you so stupid?! ??? It's shocking. :o
I would still buy johns though because I for one, am not a grower or have the connections to a m39 grower, 2 he understands business(referring to mrouids lack of seeing an opportunity) and 3 he has the quantity I will need. I'm just saying if you think mrouids prices are amazing, you can find better quality for much less.
Oh, you'd "still buy johns though", would you? He "understands business", does he? He "has the quantity", has he? Oh John, you just can't stop trying to 'big yourself up'. Again, I'm thoroughly embarrassed for you... :-[
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Until I see a sentence where I am not accused of being mtljohn I really cannot take you serious or will I read what you write, I am not here to argue, I am stating opinions and to say I am wrong of any sort is invalid, as opinions come from different points of views and not everyone has an equal one.
Going to bed, I just wanted this out there so people know is all. Feel free to keep arguing about something irrelevant, my opinion based on a fact that is the messages I have pasted from my inbox are just that. You can argue all you want but doesn't make my points invalid.
Goodnight.
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Wow. I'm new to SR, but am totally stunned that anyone could be so... will anyone be offended if I say "retarded"?
First of all to have the conversation, begging the guy to send you a freebie. Second, that you'd post the contents of that conversation out here for everyone to see. If I were a seller, I'd think several times before doing business with you. Third, why is the user name in the conversation not "BusinessMentality"? Fourth, bringing this case to the forum court like we're all going to nod our heads and say "yup, yup, you're absolutely right, that mrouid is so short-sighted. Heck, he should be fronting you pounds".
I think you need to remove 12 letters from your handle and just be Mental. It's more accurate.
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I think you need to remove 12 letters from your handle and just be Mental. It's more accurate.
nice one! haha +1 for that succinct little gem :)
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Shut the fuck up John. A lot of people around town are getting sick of your obvious, juvenile shit already. Why don't you take the energy you put into trolling the forums every day and instead put it into DELIVERING THE SHIT YOU'VE BEEN PAID FOR ALREADY.
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SO obviously mtljohn
His original post:
-Discredits Mr Ouid for something perfectly fine (can't afford 7g?? then go see someone who's willing to waste his time with 1 g orders and stfu)
-Makes statements in favor of mtljohn
-Makes allusion to to things like "the best canadian m39"
-Contains terrible typos famous of mtljohn fame like "ludacris" instead of ludicrous HAHAHA
Who else could give a single crap about the best m39?? It's such piss poor weed only a wanker like him would bother.
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I am going to side with mrouid on this one. He doesn't owe you any favors. Most sellers have their product vacuum sealed by the oz and ready to go; a big time dealer like mrouid probably wouldn't go through the trouble of just sending you one or two grams. I actually find this request to be quite inconsiderate. Go to some big time drug dealers house and ask to buy a gram of pot; you'll see the same reaction
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WHY DON'T YOU FUCK OFF Mtljhn EVERYONE HATES YOUR BUSINESS PRACTICES & YOU IN GENERAL DOUCHE BAG!
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I think if you guys took the time to read my post history you would realize I am not mtljohn lol.. I now know what he gets put through on the forums, you guys are a rough crowd, sheesh.
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I think the title of this thread is misleading.
Why should potential buyers be careful ? He didnt scam you, he didnt wrong you ... all he did was ask you abide by his sales terms.
I am not sure why this is even a thread. You asked for something off the grid, he said he couldnt provide it, whats the problem ?
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Title of the thread is "most unprofessional vendor, careful potential buyers."
when you were the one being unprofessional.
Gtfo
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Hi John!!! Still, nobody cares about m39!
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I think the title of this thread is misleading.
Why should potential buyers be careful ? He didnt scam you, he didnt wrong you ... all he did was ask you abide by his sales terms.
I am not sure why this is even a thread. You asked for something off the grid, he said he couldnt provide it, whats the problem ?
Stop being so close-minded and you'll answer your own questions. Mind=blown
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I really don't think BM is MtlJohn..
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Okay so pretty much I don't mean to start a shit storm with his frequent customers, you obviously have got things established with him and whatnot, I am making this thread to show those newcomers that are on SR or potential buyers who want to buy from him, the side of mrouid I have seen personally. To summarize, I was interested in BUYING a sample of his m39 but his smallest order of m39 was 6oz. I offered to pay for 1-2g as a sample to pass around and let a select couple of my friends try the sample to compare to whose m39 was TRULY top notch and to settle my curiosity, ##### I always thought mtljohns stuff was better but I respected mrouid's packaging from what I read so you can win with either, but I don't smoke myself, I am strictly in it for business and when it comes down to it, better quality wins. Anyways..#####
HA! Christ, John, can't you make things just a LITTLE more believable?! I mean seriously, come on.. School-boy errors right there. This isn't going to be any fun if you're making a fool of yourself instead of everyone else doing it to you. :'(
The part above in the "#####" is what I'll draw attention to though:
You "always thought mtljohns stuff was better but I respected mrouid's packaging from what I read so you can win with either" - so you've never actually tried mrouid's product, yet you thought mtljohn's stuff was better?! Pray tell, how does that work?! ;D
Ah, wait, then there's this: "but I don't smoke myself, I am strictly in it for business and when it comes down to it, better quality wins. Anyways.."
Despite not smoking it yourself, mtljohn's stuff was better, and you know it's better quality than mrouid's. Seeing as you've never tried mrouid's M39, only read about his packaging, that is very strange! ;D Are you a psychic smoker perhaps?! Do you sample his M39 from the comfort of your bed using your MIND!?! :o Incredible stuff!!
Anyways, here is the convos from top to bottom the WHOLE thing from point A to point B, Take NOTE of the DATE/TIMES as the recent as of the past few days are the side I want to show potential buyers.
Keep in mind, my opinion is if you run a business and a person offers to possibly buy massive quantities frequently contingent that the product is of good quality, you don't try to passively get someone to buy 6oz or wait for a 7g listing when 7g is not of use, you make a custom listing and please your CUSTOMERS. That is just my opinion and we each have our own, keep in mind, this is opinion based and some will agree while others will not.
Just copied one whole page to save time.
Ah, you're quoting entire conversations again, just like you always did! How coincidental!! ;D Not only do you continue to disrespect the privacy of members and Vendors, but you attempt to use their replies against them, as if to try and slander their good name despite you coming across as the child you've always been and the child you remain! Oh dear, John. Oh dear!! ;D
his business is his business as I have stated in the convo, but how I decide who to give my business to is up to me and I don't like being told I can't get a custom listing cause it is out of his way when he is acting like I am the only customer he has to go to the post office for, not hard to add 1 more package that takes a few minutes to wrap/box, 1-2 grams is not the same time frame of stealth packaging as 1-2pounds.
That right there, if you were a legitimate buyer, would be the cause of your problems. You state "I don't like being told I can't get a custom listing cause it is out of his way when he is acting like I am the only customer he has to go to the post office for", yet YOU would be the one acting as though you are the only customer in the world. You're so pathetic, mtljohn.
My reply to a legitimate buyer would be thus:
mrouid has more than enough business, and is well established enough, not to have to bother with 1g sample orders (unlike yourself ;)) Outrageous behaviour on your part, and an incredibly immature manner in which to conduct your business here.
You ask one of the top vendors on Silk Road (in the top 2%, meaning he is one of the busiest - he himself stating that he works 15 hours a day) to make a custom listing for you for a tiny amount of weed to 'sample', instead of waiting for a 7g listing and using chump change to purchase that; when he declines to put up a custom listing, you pester him about it and try to get him to acquiesce, then when he declines yet again, you get 'snotty'.
If you are willing to buy a pound a week, you can afford to pay for a 7g sampler. Simple as.
Anyways was just showing this in case anyone was on the fence, I am not hired by mtljohn or have bought anything of john either, I am just looking for a good supplier with the best m39 in Canada that I can buy from frequently and I believe if you are going to be rude without stating a truly valid reason and deny a person who wants to give you business, that you should question yourself on why you are on SR if you aren't here to make money.
Anyways I'm not going to be arguing with any of his friends or him directly, I just stated my opinion, you can all state yours, I'm just showing my side of things and how I think it could of been handled more professionally
I'm sorry, mtljohn; you may have changed your writing style a little, and toned down your ridiculous accusations a tad but you are still incredibly transparent.
That last quoted part just really made it though. Why would anyone be "on the fence" when it comes to ordering from you (and your now suspended) account or ordering from mrouid, given how you have conducted yourself here in the past?! ::) Still mentioning "the best M39 in Canada".. Fucking hell. You're a pillock of the highest order, mtljohn, and you're far too egotistical (ironically, about nothing seeing as you could barely move more than grams!) to be able to hide in plain sight here. Just leave. Seriously.. You're making such a fool of yourself.. I'm actually a little embarrassed for you... :-[
- grahamgreene
man, you really are a fool... you just dont get it yet do you, just caus you think something does nto make it so...even in your delusions of grandeur.
get the fuck out of here everyone is accusing other people of being me and i really dont like it! :)
leave the poor dude alone!
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It's okay man, I don't need you to buy it, I'm not selling anything, just trying to state my opinion here. I don't want an argument I just wanted to be treated like any other person that gets tended to with an inquiry for product in a positive manner with a good outcome.
To humour you:
You contacted one of the top 2% vendors on the site - meaning he is busier than 98% of all other vendors - asking him to create a custom 1-2g sample listing for you when, if you were serious about buying pound weight, you would certainly be able to purchase a 7g sample. He declined, and you got ratty about it; you kept pestering him for it until he told you in no uncertain terms that he did not want your business as it consisted of empty promises seeing as you couldn't even afford to wait a week to buy a 7g listing. This is a vendor that pays incredibly attention to the detail of his packaging, whether it is 7g or 908g, so packaging your little 1-2g sample is an inconvenience that he clearly does not need.
As you can see from previous replies in this thread by various members, you come across as having a severe attitude problem. Similar to mtljohn funnily enough, but how and ever.
Back to the topic at hand:
Listings disappear either when a vendor takes the listing down or when he sells out of that particular listing; mrouid wasn't "passively trying to get you to buy 6 Oz", he was clearly just too busy (in the run up to Christmas) to list and pack more 7g orders as he was planning on leaving for the weekend (as stated on his profile page), much less list and pack a worthless 1-2g order when he has numerous LB orders coming through at the same time.
It's time vs. money. Nobody's time is worth a measly 2.2 BTC (less the cost of packing materials and postage, so more like 1.09 BTC) when they could be earning far more on larger orders.
You seem to think that an extra pound a week would be a game changer for mrouid, and that he should bend over backwards to get your custom and satisfy you by providing a 1 - 2g sample. Why is that? ??? Why do you place so much importance on yourself and your LB a week order? ???
You asked the man would he be willing to do it, he said "no but I'll have 7g listings back up next week sometime" which you could have purchased, yet you still pushed the issue. It's ridiculous. You acted like a child who didn't get his own way, so you come here to 'throw your toys from the pram' and badmouth him because you didn't get what you wanted. Ridiculous behaviour.
Having taken a little more time to think about it, my suspicions are even stronger that you are indeed mtljohn. We'll be watching you. :) And your new vendor account starting with "o". ;)
I dunno if possible but perhaps maybe SR can show the location of me vs john's through IP and maybe then you will realize I am not john? simple because I quote, and that copy/pasting forces me to tell you to read bottom to top doesn't mean I am john, if I didn't say "Read bottom to top" would that change your opinion?
You guys are more focused on accusing me of being john when in reality he is not even in the same province I am in (assuming he lives in Montreal lol) than the actual point of the thread.
If you guys have nothing to really contribute other than negativity I would appreciate silence from the two of you.
Ah, your infamous "lol". We've missed that around here. And your ridiculous contradictory statements "in reality he is not even in the same province I am in (assuming he lives in Montreal lol)" - it couldn't be a "reality" if you don't know now could it? You poor, stupid little man John.. I really do pity you. :'(
- grahamgreene
wowowowowowowowow.... you again!!! who would have thought... first you talk to him like hes not me then you go into a rant about it being me... which one is it???
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Mtljohn's got nothing better to do than to troll the forums all fucking day. We already know he has multiple accounts on the forums, bm is just one of them.
I mean, he has time enough, it's not like he's busy selling drugs.
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Like I said, I was stating my opinion and mainly to show any potential buyers on the fence about going into business with him, the forums are made to communicate and I am entitled to my opinion am I not?
You certainly are entitled to your opinion. Free speech - I'll get back to that in a few paragraphs.
I do not ask for anyone to care, I am just SHARING an experience, take it however you want.
How kind of you! I choose to take it as you being mtljohn. Nice try though.
And also just gonna state, if you were familiar with m39 in canada, the prices mrouid has it for would be considered ludacris considering paying a few hundred more you can get medical grade or just much better potent herb, m39 isn't a great strain compared to the many to select from, it has great resale value and I wanted to see whose m39 was better, considering his is more expensive than johns I was curious.
I am familiar with M39 in Canada, thank you very much. I'm also aware of the concept of being a middleman. Nobody expects anybody to work for free, and mrouid makes the quantity of sales that he does because people are generally incredibly satisfied with the price:quality ratio that he provides. He is entitled to make as much profit as he wishes on that; if people are happy with the price, they will buy it. If not, they won't. Funny how this just turned back into your old little arguments though. You're too predictable!
You can't challenge my opinion in this thread or this thread in general because I am sharing my experience and just showing it on the forums, I am not asking anyone to care.
Can't I? But what about that free speech that enables you to state your opinion? Doesn't it allow others to state their opinions as well, and isn't free speech the reason that one can challenge an opinion? Your inability to grasp the concept of logical fallacy betrays you, mtljohn. You haven't changed a bit. ::)
Go to cannabis culture forums and tell em mrouids price on 2lbs and if you can find one person with a valid account that says it's even an average price (not made after this thread) I will buy you 2lbs worth of his product myself personally, because over there are seasoned massive growers, they won't even sell m39 for over 1400 even if it was the best thing they grew.
Ooh, here's a good one! Somebody who cannot even afford to pay for a 7g sample, seeing as they only have 2.2 BTC left in their account, is going to buy 2 LBs of product for me for proving him wrong. Whyyyyy?! WHY are you so stupid?! HOW are you so stupid?! ??? It's shocking. :o
I would still buy johns though because I for one, am not a grower or have the connections to a m39 grower, 2 he understands business(referring to mrouids lack of seeing an opportunity) and 3 he has the quantity I will need. I'm just saying if you think mrouids prices are amazing, you can find better quality for much less.
Oh, you'd "still buy johns though", would you? He "understands business", does he? He "has the quantity", has he? Oh John, you just can't stop trying to 'big yourself up'. Again, I'm thoroughly embarrassed for you... :-[
- grahamgreene
and again.......... hahahhahahahaha
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Shut the fuck up John. A lot of people around town are getting sick of your obvious, juvenile shit already. Why don't you take the energy you put into trolling the forums every day and instead put it into DELIVERING THE SHIT YOU'VE BEEN PAID FOR ALREADY.
wowow... after reading this I wish i was a scammer and i had scammed you... Please dont contact me for any future purchases.
Thank you
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WHY DON'T YOU FUCK OFF Mtljhn EVERYONE HATES YOUR BUSINESS PRACTICES & YOU IN GENERAL DOUCHE BAG!
Thanks to the name *** **n***r I have now found your photos. see yoy soon.
hahahahahahahahahahahahah
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I think if you guys took the time to read my post history you would realize I am not mtljohn lol.. I now know what he gets put through on the forums, you guys are a rough crowd, sheesh.
Ohhhhhhh Snap!
what the fuck do you have to say now graham your fucking pussy keyboard cowboy...
hahahahah,.... you ALL just got served!!!!!
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I think if you guys took the time to read my post history you would realize I am not mtljohn lol.. I now know what he gets put through on the forums, you guys are a rough crowd, sheesh.
btw.. thats just how this place is.... there is only like 150 voices here and most of them have no voice and can barley read.... they just believe what everyone says and goes with the flow. if this place had ten thousand voices it would be a whole different story...... all these chumps would be choked out by reason and pure numbers but because its so small no one wants to step on anyone's toes yet... and the ones who do get - a million karma for it....
this place is a sham, karma is a sham and fuck all the haters on here who said you were me....
bouyaaaaaaa
John
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Even if you're not John, you're not really any better. Why would you think anybody here would care to listen to you whinge about a vendor not wanting to do business with you? He offered one little hoop for you to jump through (wait ~1 week until he has a 7g listing up and purchase it), and you felt so wounded that you bitched him out via pm and then came directly here because your vagina wasn't quite empty yet to bitch him out some more. I mean, come on, really? This thread's right up there with those btkoin spam threads. ::)
Don't call this guy a vagina. That's an insult to vaginas everywhere. :(
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Even if you're not John, you're not really any better. Why would you think anybody here would care to listen to you whinge about a vendor not wanting to do business with you? He offered one little hoop for you to jump through (wait ~1 week until he has a 7g listing up and purchase it), and you felt so wounded that you bitched him out via pm and then came directly here because your vagina wasn't quite empty yet to bitch him out some more. I mean, come on, really? This thread's right up there with those btkoin spam threads. ::)
Don't call this guy a vagina. That's an insult to vaginas everywhere. :(
:-[ That's true! You got me there. I love vaginas, would never normal do or say anything to disparage this most lovely of features. I guess I just got carried away with my desire to insult this person's manhood. But you're right, vaginas should be held above the fray of forum insults; I have learn my lesson. :-[
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BM,
I have bought from MrOuid, and a big order. He was the nicest, and one of the best vendors I have bought from. The fact that you would waste his time and money and ask for a sample, makes me think that..
A.)Your a SCAMMER
B.) LE
C.) MTLJOHN
So if I am correct and A, B, C are correct, which I am, then go away.
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But you did scam me, John. As for doing business with you again, well, I'd rather use a belt-sander on my testicles. I'd rather light money on fire. Because doing business with you means basically the same thing, losing your money and ending up with no gear.
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And no matter who BM is anyway -- what's the fascination with M39? It's a street commodity that growers love because it produces heavy yields, but as a strain it's not particularly distinguished and consistently gets middling scores on Leafly. It's not bad weed, it's just not particularly great in any way, and chances are if you buy off the street that's what you'll get because growers grow lots of it. THC content is only in the mid-teens. Yes it's got a big market, but not among connaisseurs.
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MrOuid has provided me with some of my best experiences on the Road!