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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: QC Wholesale on November 07, 2012, 03:31 pm
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As you probably know by now my seller's account has been suspended on Silk Road. When I asked for an explanation Silk Road Support claimed that I was encouraging buyers to conduct transactions outside of escrow. If you're one of the hundreds of customers I've dealt with you probably know that I never encouraged anyone to do any such thing.
The only situation I can think of is a fellow from B.C. was asking to buy 30 Lbs a week from me and I let him know that it would be difficult to accommodate that volume in BTC due to the difficulties of transferring large amounts BTC into $$$. I told him that to do such a transaction we would have to work out an alternative means of payment. However this never materialized nor did I expect it to since I frequently get such outlandish requests that are not serious.
Not once have I actually dealt with anyone outside of Silk Road whom I had originally contacted here. There were a few instances when I accepted direct payment (through Silk Road's "Send bitcoins to another member" feature) but never did I encourage anyone to send payment this way. Some customers would pay me this way without my ever authorizing it or I would allow it (stupidly) in rare circumstances when customers didn't have enough coin to pay for a listing and I was too overwhelmed with orders and/or Silk Road was going too slowly to go through the process of making a custom orders for them.
However never did I encourage that and numerous times declined offers to accept direct payment in exchange for a reduction in price. I feel that Silk Road well-deserves the small commission that they charge and never felt that I should try to bypass it for any reason. If fact I would gladly pay double the normal commission charged by Silk Road for any direct payments that have ever been received into my account (amounting to a negligible amount compared to the business I bring them in any case).
I would like your honest opinions. Do you think that my account suspension was deserved? Do you think that Silk Road will benefit as a result? I have plenty of loyal customers who will take their business to wherever I decide to go. But I would much rather stick with Silk Road and conduct my business here. They've helped me achieved everything that I have and I feel that I owe them my loyalty.
Mr Ouid
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You do realize you were most likely scammed out of the account by competition.
Even vendors aren't safe from scamming in it's many various forms.
It's obvious someone went to a bit of trouble to make you look guilty.
It's not like you are a new vendor, you've kicked on the road as long as i can remember.
Someone made up buyer accounts and sought to give you grief for what ever the reason.
SR Support and DPR doesnt just suspend accounts with getting information from more than just one source.
They are busy enough just trying to keep the road from getting overwhelmed from all the traffic it gets.
Just this guys opinion.
Did your account deserve to get suspended, probably not but when they get complaints they have to react or you get another asshole walking off into the sunset with 10k of someone else's money.
x)
nomad bloodnath
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Sounds like a hard luck case. I am surprised if you were suspended without even a warning... You want to come clean about warnings or responses form support regarding the suspension?
Modzi
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Hey I just registered so I can post on this subject.
I can first say that Mr Ouid is a legit, professional vendor. His shipping methods are top notch and he's the reason why plenty of people around the world are getting M39. His reputation and client list show that he is the reason why people come to SR, for a reliable and consistent vendor.
I'm glad, as a loyal customer of Mr Ouid, that he is doing the right thing and being loyal to SR. I'm happy to know he is taking the initiative to fix what was wrong, pay SR what they EARNED and pay double apparently,
In a shitty world of schemers and fakes, its comforting to know that people can still have character, in any business field.
Now the accusations of him wanting to deal off SR, well, that is wrong and if everyone did that then SR would be down. And I can see how getting some bitcoins transferred directly to his account was wrong. I feel that after all this and how is business is being affected negatively, that he wouldn't dare to risk his reputation again.
On the same note, getting large amounts of money converted to bitcoins is a problem. If buyers wanted to get over his 2LB, then there should be some other way to accommodate those needs without risking safety and his reputation. But most buyers don't even fall into that category, but if SR wanted to collaborate for a solution then that would be great.
I feel that SR did the right thing of checking Mr Ouid because no one should fuck around with another person's lively hood. The idea of the Silk Road is genius, let's all support it.
I'm not saying any of the accusations are true but it's good to know that SR aren't chumps and will quickly step in.
Its even better to know that Mr Ouid is doing whats right by paying up, and keeping in touch with the community.
To Mr Ouid: good luck man, I look forward to seeing you back on the vendor list soon.
To SR: Mr Ouid is one of the top vendors in the community, he is the reason why people come to SR, for a reliable, consistent vendor.
I hope that you allow Mr Ouid to come back and if you felt the need to suspend his account then I'm happy for you guys for acting immediately because if one person did it then everyone else will try it. Paying you guys is the reason why we have such an amazing concept and website. I'm thankful for what you guys do and I hope you get every penny you earned.
This deepnet and SR is like an underground world. We check each other and anyone can speak up. Let's keep this community thriving!
--From A Trusting Buyer--
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No warnings. Not even an explanation just an automated message that my account suspended due to violation of TOS. They later gave me a very brief response saying what I said. I would have expected some kind of warning especially considering I bring in over $5000 of business per day with anywhere from 2% - 10% of that paid to Silk Road in fees.
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I had to follow suit and create an account here just to back up mrouid! I've had 2 flawless transactions with him and have never been coerced into dealing outside escrow. I really hope to continue to do business with him on SR!. I just finalized a transaction that I received today and its amazing! This was my first bulk purchase on SR and the shipping is absolutely professional and with very clever attention to stealth. I can't stand to see such a great vendor taken away when I was just getting started!
To say the least I'm disappointed :(
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I don't really know much about this whole issue, but I did read a few threads on the Rumor Mill area about Mr.ouid and if what is said here is true then perhaps SR will take a bit more time to look into it.
Hope you get some luck Mr.ouid and this was all just a huge misunderstanding.
makku
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"I would like your honest opinions. Do you think that my account suspension was deserved? Not without asking the circumstances, when you have earned one if not the top vendor spot on SR communication prior to suspension would be expected unless it was for scamming
Do you require a suspension.......well if you violated the rules there needs to be some recourse but you have come here to tell your story ( in a professional manner) like your business
Do you think that Silk Road will benefit as a result? Not a chance
I have plenty of loyal customers who will take their business to wherever I decide to go. I love SR but the truth is if I knew your were conducting business elsewhere because you couldn't conduct it here I would follow and send the occasional order your way but would prefer to do it in the SR community!
But I would much rather stick with Silk Road and conduct my business here. They've helped me achieved everything that I have and I feel that I owe them my loyalty." most of my purchases would be still done at SR buy you have a domestic product that I like and I always like to have some at hand to smoke
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hey im with you mrouid , totally underhand tactics used by mtjohn (the rat0
boycott mtjohn
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This is ridiculous. I have seen some low points in the past 13 months I've been a member on here but this takes the cake.
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I, for one, will be taking my business wherever mrouid goes whether that be back to Silk Road, or elsewhere. He has not encouraged, nor asked this. But I simply would not order large quantities of product from any other vendor. I have the utmost confidence in mrouid, and the utmost respect for how he conducts his business. I have never had one bad transaction with him.
This whole debacle came about as the result of underhanded tactics by a competitor, mtljohn, and it is disgusting to see. I have always refused to stand for injustice here, and this time will be no different. I have said all I need to say in other threads on this matter - to allow a competitor bring such a well respected vendor into disrepute would be a huge mistake; mrouid's suspension will be a HUGE loss to both Silk Road as a business entity, and as a community.
His contribution to Silk Road is immense, and he has many hundreds of satisfied fans and customers who will vouch for him. He has never encouraged OOE sales - not for large orders, nor small. This is an injustice, plain and simple; and WE, the people, will not stand for injustice.
When a system begins to allow injustices to occur, it is not long before that system becomes rotten to its very core. Do any of us want that for Silk Road? No, of course we don't. We need to make a stand here against such behaviour. SR Support is swamped with messages - however, I feel it is our duty to make them know how much we want mrouid here as a vendor, and as a contributor to our community.
Send a message of solidarity with mrouid to SR Support, and ensure they realise how much their business and our community will suffer if such an injustice is allowed to take precedence over what is right.
- grahamgreene
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Has SR Support/MrOuid said it was Mtljohn ?
If not, alot of shit is being accused/stirred up in the last 90 minutes without MtlJohn here to reply ....
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Has SR Support/MrOuid said it was Mtljohn ?
If not, alot of shit is being accused/stirred up in the last 90 minutes without MtlJohn here to reply ....
That's what I've been thinking. I'll send SR support a message as soon as this is confirmed reliably.
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Has SR Support/MrOuid said it was Mtljohn ?
If not, alot of shit is being accused/stirred up in the last 90 minutes without MtlJohn here to reply ....
mtljohn stated so himself on the forum:
"Woke up to an inbox from support that I think you'll like. FREE WEED FOR ALL.. Well not free but cheaper price for everyone he was screwing over since he's gone now and has you guys :) haha."
SR Support Thank you for letting us know. The vendor mrouid has been banned.
~SR Support 10 hours unread
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Now do you believe me?
If you read his previous posts in various topics, you will see further evidence.
- grahamgreene
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From a private message he sent me, which clearly shows his intent; this, as well as his confession above of getting a message from SR Support thanking him for reporting mrouid for attempting an OOE sale (something which was engineered by mtljohn), confirms that it was indeed mtljohn that caused this debacle. Silk Road is hanging, drawing and quartering mrouid as a result of being set up by a competitor. I believe that Silk Road, and DPR, are better than that. I urge them to show us.
Bro.. this is a free market.... I care about the clients and i care about my bottom line... its only normal i want to get rid of the competition. I can show you many national commercials... some during the superbowl where coke or pepsi are directly taking a shot at one another.... you know what I'm talking about if you watch tv.. :)
I am not going to let people talk shit to me.. its just like that.. I know how to keep business and the forum separate and do so very well... Take a minute to read my reviews and feedback.. not only will you read how my product is top notch and better then mrouids but you will see that people talk more about my great CS then my product and shipping combined... I run real life call-centers and i have for many years.... I know all about sales and CS and collections.... this is my business and is all I know other then weed business.
If you msg me on SR regarding weed you will understand what I mean... For sure i lose my temper sometimes and it may make me come off as immature, but when i am being attacked by multiple vendors I cant keep it cool for ever... PPL just talk shit with no back up like purobrad and rxking who btw censored my shit on a previous thread like a loser... juts because he does not like me dont mean he can go and delete my posts.. which you pointed out to him.. so did i and i even pointed out that instead of talking shit about me on the thread he might want to do his job and delete the thread seeing that Mrouid is banned...
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@grahamgreene .. ahh, ya I remember reading that. Crazy.
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SR - Sorry to say, but just about every "Major" vendor I've dealt with here and built a relationship with has allowed me to send bitcoins directly to their user name for custom orders. If this is what he was banned for, this is, in my opinion, bullshit. Custom orders are a pain in the ass for vendors! When you have 6.3 bitcoins for a purchase that is 7 bitcoins, the vendor is doing you a favor by allowing you to send said coins directly for either the full product, or a reduced amount. Sure, you may lose a bit of commission from these one off deals, but they are in the far minority.
I don't know the entire story, but banning a member for letting people pay directly, especially a vendor that does his volume of business is BS. If that is your policy, you need to look at just about everyone here, because the majority of vendors have done it once or twice.
Now - if something else was going on, like having this occur weekly, or moneypacks, or whatever, then by all means I understand, but banning someone for a few one off transactions isn't OK in my book. Unfortunately, my word doesn't mean anything...
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Has SR Support/MrOuid said it was Mtljohn ?
If not, alot of shit is being accused/stirred up in the last 90 minutes without MtlJohn here to reply ....
mtljohn stated so himself on the forum:
"Woke up to an inbox from support that I think you'll like. FREE WEED FOR ALL.. Well not free but cheaper price for everyone he was screwing over since he's gone now and has you guys :) haha."
SR Support Thank you for letting us know. The vendor mrouid has been banned.
~SR Support 10 hours unread
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Now do you believe me?
If you read his previous posts in various topics, you will see further evidence.
- grahamgreene
That's fucked up... Gonna send SR support a message now.
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@grahamgreene .. ahh, ya I remember reading that. Crazy.
"Crazy" isn't even the word, fredflintsone! :-\ It's outrageous!!
As a community, we are better than this. We DESERVE better than this - we deserve a better vendor than mtljohn. We deserve a vendor who has always looked after his customers, and done so in the most professional manner; namely mrouid.
It is our Bitcoin which Silk Road takes as commission when a vendor receives them. The vendor pays commission, but ultimately it comes from the buyer's Bitcoins. As such, we deserve a voice in this decision.
That's fucked up... Gonna send SR support a message now.
Thank you Ballzinator. :)
- grahamgreene
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Can I also ask people to message DPR here on the forum directing him to this thread? I believe that when he weighs up the evidence, he'll see this as nothing more than a disgusting attempt by a despicable vendor at ousting his well respected competition.
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Fucking christ this guy...I've blown up a couple times in a another section of the forums and I won't do it publicly as it's in bad taste.
This dimwit berates every other vendor on the road, specifically mrouid and unfortunately he fell for a fucked up scam THAT DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN. If I've ever seen a case of a misplaced ban this is it. Mrouid has done nothing wrong but deal with one pitiful example of a human being. Mtljohn is marked as snitch, rat and fucking untrustworthy to say the least.
Careful dealing with sociopaths people, this type of shit doesn't bode well for the community at all and looks horrible. What a fucking joke.
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Fucking christ this guy...I've blown up a couple times in a another section of the forums and I won't do it publicly as it's in bad taste.
This dimwit berates every other vendor on the road, specifically mrouid and unfortunately he fell for a fucked up scam THAT DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN. If I've ever seen a case of a misplaced ban this is it. Mrouid has done nothing wrong but deal with one pitiful example of a human being. Mtljohn is marked as snitch, rat and fucking untrustworthy to say the least.
Careful dealing with sociopaths people, this type of shit doesn't bode well for the community at all and looks horrible. What a fucking joke.
It is indeed a sad state of affairs. Would it be possible to ask you to message SR Support in solidarity with mrouid against such behaviour by mtljohn? We all know what he's like here; unfortunately SR Support most likely do not. :-\
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you guys can beg and cry all you want... no one ever said mrouid sent all his clients off SR bet he did some and he knows who...
mrouid.. would you like to me post the convos i had with your clients.. I will post them in their full form,...
just say so!!!
I doubt you will tho because its just more proof that you dealt off SR to SR clients... just come clean.. admit the mistake and then maybe SR will allow you back... but if you just deny it, there is no way they will let you back... think of it... they have every msg you ever sent!!!
so...
do you want me to post the convos... I only will if mrouid asks me to!
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you guys can beg and cry all you want... no one ever said mrouid sent all his clients off SR bet he did some and he knows who...
mrouid.. would you like to me post the convos i had with your clients.. I will post them in their full form,...
just say so!!!
I doubt you will tho because its just more proof that you dealt off SR to SR clients... just come clean.. admit the mistake and then maybe SR will allow you back... but if you just deny it, there is no way they will let you back... think of it... they have every msg you ever sent!!!
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do you want me to post the convos... I only will if mrouid asks me to!
No one is going to trust anything that you post, mtljohn; you've already proven yourself to be a liar:
LMAO.. I set no one up!!!
I am not a rat!!
his clients had enough of his shit and ratted him out..
That is the truth 100% believe it or not!
John
In that case, you've proven yourself to be a liar, mtljohn:
"Woke up to an inbox from support that I think you'll like. FREE WEED FOR ALL.. Well not free but cheaper price for everyone he was screwing over since he's gone now and has you guys :) haha."
SR Support Thank you for letting us know. The vendor mrouid has been banned.
~SR Support 10 hours unread
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Now do you believe me?
You would not have received such a message without making a report. So you either did make the report and received that message, or you lied about receiving the message. Either way, you're lying in one of your posts above.
- grahamgreene
Also, if they were real, you're honestly considering posting private conversations between you and your customers?! Wow. Just. WOW. I believe it is clear to all that you cannot be trusted with private information, let alone buyer's personal information.
You're really banging those nails into your coffin quite quickly, mtljohn.
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lol what a shitstorm ;D
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you guys can beg and cry all you want... no one ever said mrouid sent all his clients off SR bet he did some and he knows who...
mrouid.. would you like to me post the convos i had with your clients.. I will post them in their full form,...
just say so!!!
I doubt you will tho because its just more proof that you dealt off SR to SR clients... just come clean.. admit the mistake and then maybe SR will allow you back... but if you just deny it, there is no way they will let you back... think of it... they have every msg you ever sent!!!
so...
do you want me to post the convos... I only will if mrouid asks me to!
No one is going to trust anything that you post, mtljohn; you've already proven yourself to be a liar:
LMAO.. I set no one up!!!
I am not a rat!!
his clients had enough of his shit and ratted him out..
That is the truth 100% believe it or not!
John
In that case, you've proven yourself to be a liar, mtljohn:
"Woke up to an inbox from support that I think you'll like. FREE WEED FOR ALL.. Well not free but cheaper price for everyone he was screwing over since he's gone now and has you guys :) haha."
SR Support Thank you for letting us know. The vendor mrouid has been banned.
~SR Support 10 hours unread
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Now do you believe me?
You would not have received such a message without making a report. So you either did make the report and received that message, or you lied about receiving the message. Either way, you're lying in one of your posts above.
- grahamgreene
Also, if they were real, you're honestly considering posting private conversations between you and your customers?! Wow. Just. WOW. I believe it is clear to all that you cannot be trusted with private information, let alone buyer's personal information.
You're really banging those nails into your coffin quite quickly, mtljohn.
OMG... I never lied once.... The vendor support was sent to a client of mine and ouids..... I knew he reported ouid and he sent me a msg saying hey,.. look what I woke up to today..
and then posted what sr said....
I can be trusted and none of the info I may release will upset my new clients.
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We want mrouid back!!!!!! I dont trust anyone else with money like that for weight
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OMG... I never lied once.... The vendor support was sent to a client of mine and ouids..... I knew he reported ouid and he sent me a msg saying hey,.. look what I woke up to today..
and then posted what sr said....
I can be trusted and none of the info I may release will upset my new clients.
mrouid has never messed any of his clients about, so I find it hard to believe that any client of his could direct such vitriol at him. You're too new here to know this, but there was a time when OOE deals were used for bulk purchases with the full approval of Silk Road admins. Many vendors, including mrouid, made use of that function including for my first ever SR purchase, which was a $2000+ value. First transaction, totally new here, and mrouid (or any of the other vendors, for that matter) could easily have walked off with that money and I wouldn't have been able to do a damn thing about it. But he didn't. He conducted himself in a professional manner, and continued to do so thereafter, even when OOE sales were discontinued. He never required FE, and he always maintained excellent communication with his customers.
If a customer was unhappy with the prices, they wouldn't have bought the product, hence would not have been "buttfucked" as you so eloquently put it. Your story has far too many holes in it, and all the right motivation.
I have the funniest feeling that this "client" you speak of is a separate account belonging to you. And you would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those pesky kids, eh?
We want mrouid back!!!!!! I dont trust anyone else with money like that for weight
I concur.
- grahamgreene
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I can be trusted and none of the info I may release will upset my new clients.
Bull fucking shit. If every other vendor came out here and publicly stated their view on you your clients would be fools to continue doing business with you and deserve to go down with you if they do. I know the cheapest batch of weed is good for the bottom line but what the fuck does that matter when you're in prison.
I've vowed to ignore this dimwit's posts in other sections of the forums but I feel the need to publicly berate at this point, could be the booze taking effect but this guy pretty much offends everything I've seen that is GOOD about SR and does nothing but add idiocy and detrimental effects to the equation.
And grahamgreene, all other submissions to SR support probably have more effect than mine...I'm but a guppy in the ocean of SR.
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I can be trusted and none of the info I may release will upset my new clients.
Bull fucking shit. If every other vendor came out here and publicly stated their view on you your clients would be fools to continue doing business with you and deserve to go down with you if they do. I know the cheapest batch of weed is good for the bottom line but what the fuck does that matter when you're in prison.
I've vowed to ignore this dimwit's posts in other sections of the forums but I feel the need to publicly berate at this point, could be the booze taking effect but this guy pretty much offends everything I've seen that is GOOD about SR and does nothing but add idiocy and detrimental effects to the equation.
I couldn't agree more!
And grahamgreene, all other submissions to SR support probably have more effect than mine...I'm but a guppy in the ocean of SR.
Aren't we all mushitup? But an ocean full of guppies standing together in solidarity against a shark would certainly be something to contend with, eh? ;) It is an unwise creature that attacks a force which so greatly outnumbers it. Alone, each guppy falls. Together, they overcome adversity. I think every message to SR Support will help, even if it just gets them to re-examine things!
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Aren't we all mushitup? But an ocean full of guppies standing together in solidarity against a shark would certainly be something to contend with, eh? ;) It is an unwise creature that attacks a force which so greatly outnumbers it. Alone, each guppy falls. Together, they overcome adversity. I think every message to SR Support will help, even if it just gets them to re-examine things!
That's some hippy shit right there, while I'm empathetic do you see any hippies in publice office? haha :)
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I'll look into this.
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I'll look into this.
Much obliged DPR. :)
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I'll look into this.
If anyone has the resources to get to the bottom of things I would hope it's DPR. Thanks for looking into it, I'm eagerly awaiting to see if what I've been posting is valid or if I'm just drunk and full of fuck. From the impression that this guy has left on the public and private community I have a feeling I am justified...if DPR is looking into it hopefully some of my shit has validity haha. Either way, hats off to mtljohn for causing a ripple in a fucking ocean :)
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I'll look into this.
If anyone has the resources to get to the bottom of things I would hope it's DPR. Thanks for looking into it, I'm eagerly awaiting to see if what I've been posting is valid or if I'm just drunk and full of fuck. From the impression that this guy has left on the public and private community I have a feeling I am justified...if DPR is looking into it hopefully some of my shit has validity haha. Either way, hats off to mtljohn for causing a ripple in a fucking ocean :)
ripple in the ocean....fuck man.. dont you see it.... ouid scammed dpr... its that simple, he admits to half of it in this post but not the full story..
I know the full story because it involves my clients... hes a rat dude... him and anyone else here who would advise there clients to buy product out of escrow and screw DPR.
Fuck that shit....
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Aren't we all mushitup? But an ocean full of guppies standing together in solidarity against a shark would certainly be something to contend with, eh? ;) It is an unwise creature that attacks a force which so greatly outnumbers it. Alone, each guppy falls. Together, they overcome adversity. I think every message to SR Support will help, even if it just gets them to re-examine things!
That's some hippy shit right there, while I'm empathetic do you see any hippies in publice office? haha :)
Actually, here in Ireland in the last election a TD (a member of the Irish Parliament) was elected who has been a long time campaigner for cannabis legalisation and smoked joints right up to the I don't want to pull this thread off-topic but Google him if you're interested: Luke 'Ming' Flanagan. "Ming" because he styled himself after Ming the Merciless on his first election campaign. Madness! Good pieces on Wikipedia about him; read "Dáil career" if you want to know what kind of politicians to elect in future! Yes. Ireland really IS an absolutely mad place!
Back on topic though, I have every reason to believe DPR will make a just decision, whichever way it goes. His/her sense of justice is incredibly well placed. :)
him and anyone else here who would advise there clients to buy product out of escrow and screw DPR.
Would you mind explaining why you were trying to get your own clients to do the above, just in case DPR does check back here:
SR is down...
contact me via e-mail for any questions or orders...
SR down specials while the site is down!!!
johnmtl@tormail.org
John
- grahamgreene
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I know the full story because it involves my clients... hes a rat dude... him and anyone else here who would advise there clients to buy product out of escrow and screw DPR.
Fuck that shit....
If you are truly the businessman that you claim to be you're probably doing shit off site as well. I love the fact that SR exists but would it not be in the best interest of every vendor to do sales off site once they garnered a reasonable following? The only thing that bugs me here is that you are probably directly involved with what led to the investigation of another vendor. I couldn't care less what the fuck vendors do or advertise here but when it affects another vendor it's crossing a fucking line.
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Aren't we all mushitup? But an ocean full of guppies standing together in solidarity against a shark would certainly be something to contend with, eh? ;) It is an unwise creature that attacks a force which so greatly outnumbers it. Alone, each guppy falls. Together, they overcome adversity. I think every message to SR Support will help, even if it just gets them to re-examine things!
That's some hippy shit right there, while I'm empathetic do you see any hippies in publice office? haha :)
Actually, here in Ireland in the last election a TD (a member of the Irish Parliament) was elected who has been a long time campaigner for cannabis legalisation and smoked joints right up to the I don't want to pull this thread off-topic but Google him if you're interested: Luke 'Ming' Flanagan. "Ming" because he styled himself after Ming the Merciless on his first election campaign. Madness! Good pieces on Wikipedia about him; read "Dáil career" if you want to know what kind of politicians to elect in future! Yes. Ireland really IS an absolutely mad place!
Back on topic though, I have every reason to believe DPR will make a just decision, whichever way it goes. His/her sense of justice is incredibly well placed. :)
him and anyone else here who would advise there clients to buy product out of escrow and screw DPR.
Would you mind explaining why you were trying to get your own clients to do the above, just in case DPR does check back here:
SR is down...
contact me via e-mail for any questions or orders...
SR down specials while the site is down!!!
johnmtl@tormail.org
John
- grahamgreene
THE SITE WAS DOWN WHEN I POSTED MY CONTACT INFO WITH "SR DOWN DEALS" SO DID MROUID AND OTHERS... SR WAS DOWN FOR 3 DAYS!!!!
I ALSO DID NOT KNOW I COULD NOT DO THAT, I DID HOW EVER KNOW I CANT ADVISE CLIENTS TO DEAL OUT OF SR IN THE MANNER OF MROUID!
none the less... 2 months and I make a mistake when SR is down, and screwing DPR on pound orders from 1+year members here is a whole different story!!!!
specifically when those 1+year buyers have bought from ouid b4 and its documented that it went through escrow!!
he is a scammer and he scammed the worst person to scam DPR himself!
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I know the full story because it involves my clients... hes a rat dude... him and anyone else here who would advise there clients to buy product out of escrow and screw DPR.
Fuck that shit....
If you are truly the businessman that you claim to be you're probably doing shit off site as well. I love the fact that SR exists but would it not be in the best interest of every vendor to do sales off site once they garnered a reasonable following? The only thing that bugs me here is that you are probably directly involved with what led to the investigation of another vendor. I couldn't care less what the fuck vendors do or advertise here but when it affects another vendor it's crossing a fucking line.
are you kidding me.. did you read what you wrote... if i was a true business mad i would deal off this site?? hell yeah... but not to sr clients... thats a big nono... are you really suggesting that all business men vendors shoud build clientell here and then steal them from the site and do it on there own... thats what it sounds like to me..... affects another vendor is crossing the line??? wtf?? what about him robbing DPR?? do you think about dpr or just mruiod??
man you are drunk or high talking that shit regarding the situation thats going on!!!!
WOW ???
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THE SITE WAS DOWN WHEN I POSTED MY CONTACT INFO WITH "SR DOWN DEALS" SO DID MROUID AND OTHERS... SR WAS DOWN FOR 3 DAYS!!!!
Indeed, and you were entitled to post contact info as the site was down. But neither mrouid nor the other vendors directed SR customers to place orders with them off-site, as you did.
I ALSO DID NOT KNOW I COULD NOT DO THAT, I DID HOW EVER KNOW I CANT ADVISE CLIENTS TO DEAL OUT OF SR IN THE MANNER OF MROUID!
You did know you can't do that; it's explicitly stated in the Seller's Guide.
The Seller contract (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/register_seller) states the following:
Read the Seller's Guide. Don't skip this step as it includes further information you will held accountable for as a Vendor!
The Seller's Guide (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/sellers_guide), the terms of which you will be held accountable for as a Vendor, states the following:
NOTICE: Do not create listings that instruct customers to pay outside of escrow, or are used for any purpose other than to list an item to be sold for the listed price using the site checkout system. *** If you instruct your buyers to pay you in any other way, or to contact you off-site, your seller privileges WILL be revoked. You may provide back up contact methods in case of site failure. ***
The part in the asterisks applies here. There was not a 'site failure', there was an unexpected server load, or "downtime". You knowingly broke the terms of the Seller's Guide.
none the less... 2 months and I make a mistake when SR is down, and screwing DPR on pound orders from 1+year members here is a whole different story!!!!
specifically when those 1+year buyers have bought from ouid b4 and its documented that it went through escrow!!
he is a scammer and he scammed the worst person to scam DPR himself!
Ah, so you admit you were directing people to make deals off-site? A "mistake", you say? Despite agreeing not to do so when you accepted the terms of the Seller's Guide? How odd.. ??? It's a different story when one longer serving vendor allegedly does something than when a 2 month vendor does something? Does the Seller's Guide give a period of 'grace' that I've failed to notice?! ???
I've bought from mrouid for over a year through escrow. Why hasn't he asked me to go OOE? Strange, no, if he has been doing what you state he has? It's just odd that you have such a hankering for people to believe your side of the story. Of course, when one puts so much effort into something, one generally desires recognition or infamy for it.
This entire equation does not add up, mtljohn. Your mathematical skills leave a lot to be desired.
- grahamgreene
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Think what you want frogman, I'm awaiting my ban once you report me :)
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THE SITE WAS DOWN WHEN I POSTED MY CONTACT INFO WITH "SR DOWN DEALS" SO DID MROUID AND OTHERS... SR WAS DOWN FOR 3 DAYS!!!!
Indeed, and you were entitled to post contact info as the site was down. But neither mrouid nor the other vendors directed SR customers to place orders with them off-site, as you did.
I ALSO DID NOT KNOW I COULD NOT DO THAT, I DID HOW EVER KNOW I CANT ADVISE CLIENTS TO DEAL OUT OF SR IN THE MANNER OF MROUID!
You did know you can't do that; it's explicitly stated in the Seller's Guide.
The Seller contract (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/register_seller) states the following:
Read the Seller's Guide. Don't skip this step as it includes further information you will held accountable for as a Vendor!
The Seller's Guide (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/sellers_guide), the terms of which you will be held accountable for as a Vendor, states the following:
NOTICE: Do not create listings that instruct customers to pay outside of escrow, or are used for any purpose other than to list an item to be sold for the listed price using the site checkout system. *** If you instruct your buyers to pay you in any other way, or to contact you off-site, your seller privileges WILL be revoked. You may provide back up contact methods in case of site failure. ***
The part in the asterisks applies here. There was not a 'site failure', there was an unexpected server load, or "downtime". You knowingly broke the terms of the Selle's Guide.
none the less... 2 months and I make a mistake when SR is down, and screwing DPR on pound orders from 1+year members here is a whole different story!!!!
specifically when those 1+year buyers have bought from ouid b4 and its documented that it went through escrow!!
he is a scammer and he scammed the worst person to scam DPR himself!
Ah, so you admit you were directing people to make deals off-site? A "mistake", you say? Despite agreeing not to do so when you accepted the terms of the Seller's Guide? How odd.. ??? It's a different story when one longer serving vendor allegedly does something than when a 2 month vendor does something? Does the Seller's Guide give a period of 'grace' that I've failed to notice?! ???
I've bought from mrouid for over a year through escrow. Why hasn't he asked me to go OOE? Strange, no, if he has been doing what you state he has? It's just odd that you have such a hankering for people to believe your side of the story. Of course, when one puts so much effort into something, one generally desires recognition or infamy for it.
This entire equation does not add up, mtljohn. Your mathematical skills leave a lot to be desired.
- grahamgreene
You may provide back up contact methods in case of site failure.
thats what i did.. you call it server overload i call it site failure .... wtf... anyways... stop trolling me... its obvious only a few vendors here are against me because they keep chiming in... leave it alone and let dpr decide.... i though we covered this already
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You may provide back up contact methods in case of site failure.
thats what i did.. you call it server overload i call it site failure .... wtf... anyways... stop trolling me... its obvious only a few vendors here are against me because they keep chiming in... leave it alone and let dpr decide.... i though we covered this already
Yes, but you may not direct SR customers to contact you off-site. Your statement: "SR down specials while the site is down!!!" suggests that you did indeed realise it was site downtime, not site failure. You still directed SR customers to contact you off-site for specials during that period. Perhaps you were looking to scam them, perhaps you were not, but you broke the rules plain and simple and you should be taken to task for that.
I'm not 'trolling' you, I'm responding to your comments. You don't think 'a few vendors' and a load of customers backing mrouid up is enough? There's a reason people dislike you, mtljohn. And that reason was cemented in their minds before this debacle.
We did cover this, you want to be left alone, but you can't seem to keep your fingers off your keyboard. I would suggest that as the first step toward being left alone, as I will respond with logic and reason to any further statements you make.
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You may provide back up contact methods in case of site failure.
thats what i did.. you call it server overload i call it site failure .... wtf... anyways... stop trolling me... its obvious only a few vendors here are against me because they keep chiming in... leave it alone and let dpr decide.... i though we covered this already
Yes, but you may not direct SR customers to contact you off-site. Your statement: "SR down specials while the site is down!!!" suggests that you did indeed realise it was site downtime, not site failure. You still directed SR customers to contact you off-site for specials during that period. Perhaps you were looking to scam them, perhaps you were not, but you broke the rules plain and simple and you should be taken to task for that.
I'm not 'trolling' you, I'm responding to your comments. You don't think 'a few vendors' and a load of customers backing mrouid up is enough? There's a reason people dislike you, mtljohn. And that reason was cemented in their minds before this debacle.
We did cover this, you want to be left alone, but you can't seem to keep your fingers off your keyboard. I would suggest that as the first step toward being left alone, as I will respond with logic and reason to any further statements you make.
- grahamgreene
Your a loser dude.. for me the site failed... if it was for a day or a month.. no one knew... What I did was not too wrong and now I know, thanks to you of course.... next time I'll just wait for the site and forums to be down b4 posting my contact info..... lol... ;)
its not like were going to get a warning if shits about to pop.....I did what others did expect i offered a special while the site was down... not once did i say what the special was because no one asked... the site came up soon after.
you are indeed a troll! with afro pink hair and big bulgy eyes!
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I have a tormail address listed in my profile as well though it's stated to use in case 'SR goes boom' which I would think involves it not being able to be accessed for a week or more...or something to that effect. As for posting in the SR forums that I have specials while the site was down...I'm pretty sure that means I'm giving you pricing without the SR commish, so OOE sales that don't contribute to the SR community as a whole. Claim it to be what you want to say it is...but it's not giving the site their escrow dues you POS vendor, I hope you and your clients the best but expect the worst.
DPR may have started the site but despite their decisions the community will decide your fate....good or bad is still to be decided :)
I'm adding a 'herp derp' here since I'm feeding the ultimate troll.
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I have a tormail address listed in my profile as well though it's stated to use in case 'SR goes boom' which I would think involves it not being able to be accessed for a week or more...or something to that effect. As for posting in the SR forums that I have specials while the site was down...I'm pretty sure that means I'm giving you pricing without the SR commish, so OOE sales that don't contribute to the SR community as a whole. Claim it to be what you want to say it is...but it's not giving the site their escrow dues you POS vendor, I hope you and your clients the best but expect the worst.
DPR may have started the site but despite their decisions the community will decide your fate....good or bad is still to be decided :)
I'm adding a 'herp derp' here since I'm feeding the ultimate troll.
the site was down... if you show me where it says the site has to be down for a minimum amount of time before it can be considered safe to deal off SR i will follow by those rules.. but 3 days in a row to me is a failure in the sense that the site was down.. people wanted to buy and there was no escrow to use....
thats a fail!
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Your a loser dude.. for me the site failed... if it was for a day or a month.. no one knew... What I did was not too wrong and now I know, thanks to you of course.... next time I'll just wait for the site and forums to be down b4 posting my contact info..... lol... ;)
its not like were going to get a warning if shits about to pop.....I did what others did expect i offered a special while the site was down... not once did i say what the special was because no one asked... the site came up soon after.
you are indeed a troll! with afro pink hair and big bulgy eyes!
Ah, childish retorts! Your 'wit' has left you, I see. I'm not going to argue the finer points of something still actually being wrong when it is "not too wrong"; if you cannot see that, your moral compass is askew. As stated though, yes you are free to post your contact info. This is not in dispute.
No, we may not get a warning before "shits about to pop", but that is irrelevant. You did what others did AND you offered specials while the site was down. It's obvious to all that those specials were for product. Add to that the fact that you did say "contact me via e-mail for any questions or orders...", therefore proving that you wanted people to contact you for orders.
Put 2 + 2 together and we get 4. "4" being 'contact me for orders, with SR down specials available while the site is down.' It's quite simple really. ???
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Your a loser dude.. for me the site failed... if it was for a day or a month.. no one knew... What I did was not too wrong and now I know, thanks to you of course.... next time I'll just wait for the site and forums to be down b4 posting my contact info..... lol... ;)
its not like were going to get a warning if shits about to pop.....I did what others did expect i offered a special while the site was down... not once did i say what the special was because no one asked... the site came up soon after.
you are indeed a troll! with afro pink hair and big bulgy eyes!
Ah, childish retorts! Your 'wit' has left you, I see. I'm not going to argue the finer points of something still actually being wrong when it is "not too wrong"; if you cannot see that, your moral compass is askew. As stated though, yes you are free to post your contact info. This is not in dispute.
No, we may not get a warning before "shits about to pop", but that is irrelevant. You did what others did AND you offered specials while the site was down. It's obvious to all that those specials were for product. Add to that the fact that you did say "contact me via e-mail for any questions or orders...", therefore proving that you wanted people to contact you for orders.
Put 2 + 2 together and we get 4. "4" being 'contact me for orders, with SR down specials available while the site is down.' It's quite simple really. ???
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lmao.. you're a fool! think as you wish dude, What i did wont get me banned, it was an honest mistake....
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the site was down... if you show me where it says the site has to be down for a minimum amount of time before it can be considered safe to deal off SR i will follow by those rules.. but 3 days in a row to me is a failure in the sense that the site was down.. people wanted to buy and there was no escrow to use....
thats a fail!
*sigh*
Some people could access it, others couldn't. By your logic, if the page fails to load once then a vendor is free to conduct sales via email, out of escrow, until they try the page again. Absurd!
Also, what boggles my mind is how did you know people wanted to buy from you if a) you could not access the site, and b) they did not contact you via email, as you've already stated? ??? Once again, your mathematics are off. ;)
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the site was down... if you show me where it says the site has to be down for a minimum amount of time before it can be considered safe to deal off SR i will follow by those rules.. but 3 days in a row to me is a failure in the sense that the site was down.. people wanted to buy and there was no escrow to use....
thats a fail!
*sigh*
Some people could access it, others couldn't. By your logic, if the page fails to load once then a vendor is free to conduct sales via email, out of escrow, until they try the page again. Absurd!
Also, what boggles my mind is how did you know people wanted to buy from you if a) you could not access the site, and b) they did not contact you via email, as you've already stated? ??? Once again, your mathematics are off. ;)
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you keep implying that i am a liar.. I am not.... I know people wanted to buy because everyone was posting "how do i buy the site is down"....lmao
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you keep implying that i am a liar.. I am not.... I know people wanted to buy because everyone was posting "how do i buy the site is down"....lmao
I'm not implying anything, mtljohn, I'm simply going on the evidence you present. Can you point me toward one of those "how do i buy the site is down" posts? It's just that I don't recall seeing any of them. Nor would buyers want to buy from a vendor via email, without the protection of the escrow system or any recourse, as there would be absolutely no transaction history to prove that any transaction took place.
Mathematics, dear mtljohn. Mathematics. It simply doesn't add up.
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you keep implying that i am a liar.. I am not.... I know people wanted to buy because everyone was posting "how do i buy the site is down"....lmao
I'm not implying anything, mtljohn, I'm simply going on the evidence you present. Can you point me toward one of those "how do i buy the site is down" posts? It's just that I don't recall seeing any of them. Nor would buyers want to buy from a vendor via email, without the protection of the escrow system or any recourse, as there would be absolutely no transaction history to prove that any transaction took place.
Mathematics, dear mtljohn. Mathematics. It simply doesn't add up.
- grahamgreene
you're a troll... your favorite vendor is a rat cheating bastard and deserves to get his ass banned... I'm not here to defend myself... fuck you... enjoy sourcing them pounds you will be needing.
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you're a troll... your favorite vendor is a rat cheating bastard and deserves to get his ass banned... I'm not here to defend myself... fuck you... enjoy sourcing them pounds you will be needing.
;)
My favourite vendor has been nothing but professional in all dealings or conversation I've ever had with him; the same cannot be said for conversations with you. I appreciate the pleasantries directed at me, however, and wish you the best in return. I'll have no problem sourcing the kilos I'll be needing, whether it be from mrouid on Silk Road, mrouid elsewhere, or locally as needs be. Thanks again for your concern though.
Apologies to all for allowing and contributing to this thread being dragged somewhat off topic.
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For mtljohn to deem someone a troll is truly hilarious. He's been trolling this site since day 1.
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BAN this guy mtljohn as soon as possible please , why would you wanna rat out mrouid ? are you admin ?are you the internet police ?or are you a good samaratian doing sr,s work ..NO you are not .
I for one will not use any vendor who rats another vendor , but you just didnt rat you set up another vendor , why for money / sales ? I wouldnt want you in my team ...
you should be ashamed of yourself
wishing you good vibes and a heavy dose of conscience & intellect.
wake up man
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This really sounds like a load of bull shit to be honest. I dont mean to be hasty but it seems to be a bit of reverse psychology going on.
So mrouids if you were bringing in $5000 a day then surely you could easily start a new account with a new name and be anonymous again. Yea it would mean starting over which isn't the end of the world and could be a good thing.
mtjohn I have been noticing your comments and threads for a while now. Sir there is a time when it's best not to speak
I'm just saying?
I know it's none of my business but it's fun to add my 2 cents to the great weed dealers cut throat competition. This is much better than hiring hit men to go shoot up the neighbor hood over who's selling weed on who's turf
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Just to set the record straight: One of my clients did in fact tell mtljohn that I had dealt a large amount with him outside of escrow. He admitted to me that he had lied to mtljohn to inflate his buyer stats so that he could obtain free samples. He also contacted vendor support to explain the situation to them. So at least in this respect mtljohn is not lying about the information that he received he's just mistaken about the facts since I never in fact sold anything to this client outside of escrow. I did make him custom listings on several occasions amounting to around $10,000 over a period of a few months but never did I ask him to nor did we deal outside of escrow.
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Hi there,
Most of the time I avoid to post in this kind of polemical threads but there is point that really worries me : is it so easy to get a seller suspended or banned ?
Mrouid is on SR since a very long time, he's a well known vendor with an excellent reputation, in my opinion he's the kind of seller a customer expects to find on SR. If only a few anonymous testimonies are enough to get him suspended it makes things really easy for anyone who wants to harm a reputable vendor.
WL
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Just to set the record straight: One of my clients did in fact tell mtljohn that I had dealt a large amount with him outside of escrow. He admitted to me that he had lied to mtljohn to inflate his buyer stats so that he could obtain free samples. He also contacted vendor support to explain the situation to them. So at least in this respect mtljohn is not lying about the information that he received he's just mistaken about the facts since I never in fact sold anything to this client outside of escrow. I did make him custom listings on several occasions amounting to around $10,000 over a period of a few months but never did I ask him to nor did we deal outside of escrow.
Many of your clients contacted me... not just one.... and the one who now is all of a sudden a liar was sure of what he was saying when he sent me his msg.
would you like to see the msg???
one minute its legit next its a lie.... what about the other dude you told to send cash in the mail to toronto to save 300 on a pound of PK???
do you deny that also??? I have the words from your mouth in my inbox if you need to be reminded!!!
or what about the dude who wanted 30 pounds and you told him you would have to figure out an other way because that too much btc for you to move... I mean you did say that your self did you not... lmao....
this is now 3 expamles of you dealing off SR..
3 examples!!!!! not one not two.. but three and i have more...
You are a lying scammer and you deserve to be banned and to never come back! how dare you try to scam DPR??
lol.. and I'm the bad guy right??
mrouid... would you like to to post the convos i had with your clients so everyone can see, or should I just send them to DPR so he can see???
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Just to set the record straight: One of my clients did in fact tell mtljohn that I had dealt a large amount with him outside of escrow. He admitted to me that he had lied to mtljohn to inflate his buyer stats so that he could obtain free samples. He also contacted vendor support to explain the situation to them. So at least in this respect mtljohn is not lying about the information that he received he's just mistaken about the facts since I never in fact sold anything to this client outside of escrow. I did make him custom listings on several occasions amounting to around $10,000 over a period of a few months but never did I ask him to nor did we deal outside of escrow.
Many of your clients contacted me... not just one.... and the one who now is all of a sudden a liar was sure of what he was saying when he sent me his msg.
would you like to see the msg???
one minute its legit next its a lie.... what about the other dude you told to send cash in the mail to toronto to save 300 on a pound of PK???
do you deny that also??? I have the words from your mouth in my inbox if you need to be reminded!!!
or what about the dude who wanted 30 pounds and you told him you would have to figure out an other way because that too much btc for you to move... I mean you did say that your self did you not... lmao....
this is now 3 expamles of you dealing off SR..
3 examples!!!!! not one not two.. but three and i have more...
You are a lying scammer and you deserve to be banned and to never come back! how dare you try to scam DPR??
lol.. and I'm the bad guy right??
mrouid... would you like to to post the convos i had with your clients so everyone can see, or should I just send them to DPR so he can see???
send them to dpr who gives a shit , if dpr wants to lose the money from sales it up to him ... as for you folks this is how to commit business suicide on sr , watch this seller die out from lack of sales
mtljohn has just self imploded in real time ;)
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Many of your clients contacted me... not just one.... and the one who now is all of a sudden a liar was sure of what he was saying when he sent me his msg.
would you like to see the msg???
"Many" of mrouid's clients contacted you? You stated last night that 5 of his clients contacted you. The client who was "sure of what he was saying" has contacted SR Support to state that he was indeed lying to you in order to inflate his buyer stats so he could receive a free sample. That client seemingly made a fool of you mtljohn. Is this what you were basing your entire "mrouid omg wtf lolz lmao scammer lolz cheater DPR omfgz ban him lol lmao" claim on? If so, calling you a pillock is an insult to pillocks worldwide.
one minute its legit next its a lie.... what about the other dude you told to send cash in the mail to toronto to save 300 on a pound of PK???
do you deny that also??? I have the words from your mouth in my inbox if you need to be reminded!!!
Hmm, no, it's not legit one minute and a lie the next. It was a lie from the beginning, as that customer has stated to both mrouid and SR Support. Do you really lack such basic reasoning skills?! :o
And if you "have the words from your mouth in my inbox", then it was indeed you acting as another customer. You cannot have first hand information from a source in your inbox unless you directly interacted with that source. In this case, the source is mrouid. You claim it was a client of his that messaged you, yet you have "the words from [mrouid's] mouth" in your inbox! Fancy that! ;D
or what about the dude who wanted 30 pounds and you told him you would have to figure out an other way because that too much btc for you to move... I mean you did say that your self did you not... lmao....
this is now 3 expamles of you dealing off SR..
3 examples!!!!! not one not two.. but three and i have more...
mrouid addressed that in his original post in this very thread. Christ you're an idiot. ::) I don't normally stoop to insulting people directly - I prefer belittling their inferior intelligence by outwitting them with words, as I have been forced to do to you in the past due to your previous absurd statements on this forum - but you really are stupid. :o You also seem to "lmao" a lot. Are you 16? 17 perhaps? Either way, you're too immature to ever receive an iota of respect here.
I suggest you keep your "expamles" to yourself if you want to halt the ridicule being directed at you; if not, we're all having a good laugh tearing you and your other "expamles" to shreds.
You are a lying scammer and you deserve to be banned and to never come back! how dare you try to scam DPR??
lol.. and I'm the bad guy right??
mrouid... would you like to to post the convos i had with your clients so everyone can see, or should I just send them to DPR so he can see???
Can you point out a) who mrouid has scammed, and b) why you have such a large interest in mrouid being "banned and to never come back"? It seems you aren't content to let this lie, and let DPR make his/her decision on the matter. You keep trying to reinforce your claims 'just in case'. Just in case justice prevails.
"How dare you try to scam DPR"?!?!?! This is hilarious coming from the guy who advertised "SR down specials" in order to sell product commission free! You're literally THE most hypocritical person I've ever had the pleasure of berating here on the forum! And that's quite an accomplishment, so kudos to you!
If DPR has taken a look at any of your posts here it is highly unlikely he/she is going to believe anything you send to them. I mean seriously, do you honestly think you have an ounce of credibility?! ??? Not only are you hypocritical, you're entirely delusional!
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I dont see mrouid selling yet my friend... I NEVER SET HIM UP!!!! he set his self up...
if DPR thought for one moment that this was fabricated Mrouid would be back by now....
I know what DPR read because the guy who sent him the msg sent me the msg too.... this is how I know mrouid advised clients to deal off SR!
Its not my fault mrouid is greedy, and its not my fault he got banned!!!
I can assure you tho that the conversation mrouid had with the client that ratted on him, is just cause for his being banned...
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Mtljohn(99) thats fucked up.. he can be banned for this 100%....
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CLIENT OKAY, so here's the convo, just read from top to bottom.
CLIENT Yeah I am in Canada. I get my product from a few hours out of my city which is not bad but like I said I just am in need of different strains to add to my inventory to give to my guys to push out and any purple would be good as long as quality isn't shit. Let me know what you can get me a pound of purple for and I'll talk to my guys and see if they can work with that. I just want to expand my selection and not have the same 2 things even though they are amazing, I would like to give business to 1 maybe two more suppliers I can buy from depending on strain/price.
Just let me know anything and I'll get back to you!
mrouid(99) It's going to be at least $3600 going through silk road. If we can work out an alternative payment then I can work on the price though.
CLIENT Hm, what kinda alternative payment did you have in mind?
mrouid(99) If you can send cash (in advance) I could probably shop it around for C$2800-3000. Just right now changing btc to $$$ is a big problem (very costly).
CLIENT How would you suggest about going that route? just curious I'm not sure what way you are trying to imply lol sorry as you can tell im new to SR and not sure of many things
mrouid(99) I'm not really allowed to suggest that but if you send cash to a drop location that I can set up for you then that will save a huge amount of overhead which allows me to cut the price for you. But that means only if you trust me and don't go through Silk Road at all. If you want to do that you should create a pgp key so I can send you the address securely. 5 days read
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CLIENT You're totally right and I have the same mentality, I'm a business man and the way I see it is if you take care of your clients and offer a lower price for lower self-profit, instead of over charging a massive amount once maybe twice and them not coming back, that smaller profit over time will be more than that 1/2 rip off would have made you long term :) and okay 1 second bro, im just gonna copy/paste it 5 days read
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Mtljohn(99) I would like to read the msg if possible... and yeah... I am cool dude.. I'm a business man.. and the first thing i was taught was thats its not about how much you make per sale.. its about taking care of the clients so they come back again and again... you can make a little less profit on each sale if that's the way it goes.. and still come out on top...
send it over.. let me see that shit...
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CLIENT all of this was discussed over SR INBOX/PM aka the way we are talking now, so it WILL show up on the records when the admins look through it. I can paste the convo to you to clarify if I am in the right to report, I personally don't like how he tried to rip me off for 3800 a pound for something you and big are offering for 1k+ and yes he is a stupid ass raping mother fucker hahaha!
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Mtljohn(99) Wow... Well first of all if this story is true then I take back my previous comment about him being an "ass raping mother fucker" and change it to hes a stupid ass raping mother fucker...lol...
If you have proof of this conversation then you should report these actions... Not only because he is my competition but also because that is a big nono.. SR deserves every penny of commission. We should not be dealing out side of SR for any reason... anyways... its your call, but what he did is against the rules.. if you do decide to report him please let me know so I can make sure i"m on SR ass to take care of this..! not only that... if they do kick him off I will hook you up with PK all day at about 3000 each! :)
That is my exact costs btw...
Please keep me posted as this certainty has caught my interest!
talk to you soon.
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CLIENT Okay well then I might be able to help you out, I was asking him about prices on his purple kush he says he gets from time to time so that way I can have a kush guy I can buy off to give to my guys right? Anyways he said it would be 3800 a pound and I told him I'm trying to make a profit here and I wouldn't be using it for personal use so he would keep getting money and I Would keep getting my purple and we are all happy. Long story short he said he could lower the price if I was to go to a drop off spot in Toronto to give money to a place he arranges (keep in mind this is OUTSIDE of the escrow system) so he wants to do real life transactions pretty much. I looked it up cause I didn't know if it was legal or not and I didn't want to get in trouble or scammed so you think I should report him?? 5 days read
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Mtljohn(99) Not at all.. he is an ass raping mother fucker!
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CLIENT I got a random question but are you friends with Mrouid?
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MR OUID..
WAS THAT CONVERSATION MADE UP?? OR DID YOU ACTUALLY TRY TO STEAL MONEY FROM DPR... IF IT WAS FAKE PLEASE LET ME KNOW!
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MR OUID..
WAS THAT CONVERSATION MADE UP?? OR DID YOU ACTUALLY TRY TO STEAL MONEY FROM DPR... IF IT WAS FAKE PLEASE LET ME KNOW!
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After reading all of your posts, and understanding how you function as a person on here. Why would anyone want to bring their business to you on SR? ::)
Mrouid,
I hope you come back as a vendor (or a new vendor with a new name ;) ), because as long as I've been here you have been a great vendor! Good luck!
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I dont see mrouid selling yet my friend... I NEVER SET HIM UP!!!! he set his self up...
if DPR thought for one moment that this was fabricated Mrouid would be back by now....
I know what DPR read because the guy who sent him the msg sent me the msg too.... this is how I know mrouid advised clients to deal off SR!
Its not my fault mrouid is greedy, and its not my fault he got banned!!!
I can assure you tho that the conversation mrouid had with the client that ratted on him, is just cause for his being banned...
here why dont you decide for your self.. READ FROM THE BOTTOM UP!
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Mtljohn(99) thats fucked up.. he can be banned for this 100%....
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CLIENT OKAY, so here's the convo, just read from top to bottom.
CLIENT Yeah I am in Canada. I get my product from a few hours out of my city which is not bad but like I said I just am in need of different strains to add to my inventory to give to my guys to push out and any purple would be good as long as quality isn't shit. Let me know what you can get me a pound of purple for and I'll talk to my guys and see if they can work with that. I just want to expand my selection and not have the same 2 things even though they are amazing, I would like to give business to 1 maybe two more suppliers I can buy from depending on strain/price.
Just let me know anything and I'll get back to you!
mrouid(99) It's going to be at least $3600 going through silk road. If we can work out an alternative payment then I can work on the price though.
CLIENT Hm, what kinda alternative payment did you have in mind?
mrouid(99) If you can send cash (in advance) I could probably shop it around for C$2800-3000. Just right now changing btc to $$$ is a big problem (very costly).
CLIENT How would you suggest about going that route? just curious I'm not sure what way you are trying to imply lol sorry as you can tell im new to SR and not sure of many things
mrouid(99) I'm not really allowed to suggest that but if you send cash to a drop location that I can set up for you then that will save a huge amount of overhead which allows me to cut the price for you. But that means only if you trust me and don't go through Silk Road at all. If you want to do that you should create a pgp key so I can send you the address securely. 5 days read
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CLIENT You're totally right and I have the same mentality, I'm a business man and the way I see it is if you take care of your clients and offer a lower price for lower self-profit, instead of over charging a massive amount once maybe twice and them not coming back, that smaller profit over time will be more than that 1/2 rip off would have made you long term :) and okay 1 second bro, im just gonna copy/paste it 5 days read
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Mtljohn(99) I would like to read the msg if possible... and yeah... I am cool dude.. I'm a business man.. and the first thing i was taught was thats its not about how much you make per sale.. its about taking care of the clients so they come back again and again... you can make a little less profit on each sale if that's the way it goes.. and still come out on top...
send it over.. let me see that shit...
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CLIENT all of this was discussed over SR INBOX/PM aka the way we are talking now, so it WILL show up on the records when the admins look through it. I can paste the convo to you to clarify if I am in the right to report, I personally don't like how he tried to rip me off for 3800 a pound for something you and big are offering for 1k+ and yes he is a stupid ass raping mother fucker hahaha!
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Mtljohn(99) Wow... Well first of all if this story is true then I take back my previous comment about him being an "ass raping mother fucker" and change it to hes a stupid ass raping mother fucker...lol...
If you have proof of this conversation then you should report these actions... Not only because he is my competition but also because that is a big nono.. SR deserves every penny of commission. We should not be dealing out side of SR for any reason... anyways... its your call, but what he did is against the rules.. if you do decide to report him please let me know so I can make sure i"m on SR ass to take care of this..! not only that... if they do kick him off I will hook you up with PK all day at about 3000 each! :)
That is my exact costs btw...
Please keep me posted as this certainty has caught my interest!
talk to you soon.
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CLIENT Okay well then I might be able to help you out, I was asking him about prices on his purple kush he says he gets from time to time so that way I can have a kush guy I can buy off to give to my guys right? Anyways he said it would be 3800 a pound and I told him I'm trying to make a profit here and I wouldn't be using it for personal use so he would keep getting money and I Would keep getting my purple and we are all happy. Long story short he said he could lower the price if I was to go to a drop off spot in Toronto to give money to a place he arranges (keep in mind this is OUTSIDE of the escrow system) so he wants to do real life transactions pretty much. I looked it up cause I didn't know if it was legal or not and I didn't want to get in trouble or scammed so you think I should report him?? 5 days read
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Mtljohn(99) Not at all.. he is an ass raping mother fucker!
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CLIENT I got a random question but are you friends with Mrouid?
Woah, woah, woah, THIS is what it's all about?! ;D ;D ;D I stopped reading after the second "CLIENT:" segment from the bottom.
Oh dearrrrrrrrr mtljohn! ;D ;D ;D
It seems that this 'client' got severely trolled! ;D I've never actually laughed out loud from something I've read on the forum, but the absurdity of the entire situation being based on that genuinely has me in tears!!! ;D
Do you honestly think a vendor of mrouid's size, making $5000 worth of transactions a day, would resort to "real life" transactions in order to save about $150?!?! ;D Oh wow. Really.. Just. Wow! How NAIVE are you?! ;D
This is great. Seriously, somebody needs to point this out to DPR! Hilarity will ensue!
Also I should probably point out that your 'client' speaking strangely like you, "bro", is incredibly suspicious. And that mrouid doesn't really speak like that; he has also been cashing out huge amounts of Bitcoin for over a year - he certainly has a number of different methods for cashing out, and as someone who keeps very up to date with the Bitcoin markets and developments therein, there have been no developments of late that would reduce the methods in which mrouid can cash out various amounts of Bitcoin.
You don't see mrouid selling yet because he isn't. ::)
I've been in touch with SR Support, and in their most recent message a couple of hours ago they stated that are currently discussing matters with him, as well as DPR taking it upon him/herself to look into it personally. I'll stake my reputation on mrouid being back very shortly, and with any luck you'll be turfed out for breaking the TOS and for attempted sabotage of a rival vendor, as well as economically harming the Road and negatively affecting our community as a whole.
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yeah.. maybe he will pay his way back and if so thats whacked....
he is a rat and those were his words and SR knows it because the have access to his msgs..
Also.. I hope he comes back... I'm planning a big welcome back mrouid sale..
all 1/4 pounds 500
all half pounds 1000
all pounds 2000.
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lol.. your sticking up for someone who screws sr... even after you came to me and apologized to me for being an ass regarding this whole thing you still stand up for the guy...
You're a puppet!
I will capitalize the important words
mrouid(99) It's going to be at least $3600 going through silk road. If we can work out an ALTERNATIVE PAYMENT then I can work on the price though.
CLIENT Hm, what kinda alternative payment did you have in mind?
mrouid(99) If you can SEND CASH (in advance) I could probably shop it around for C$2800-3000. Just right now changing btc to $$$ is a big problem (very costly).
CLIENT How would you suggest about going that route? just curious I'm not sure what way you are trying to imply lol sorry as you can tell im new to SR and not sure of many things
mrouid(99) I'm not really ALLOWED to suggest that but ID you SEND CASH to a DROP LOCATION that I CAN SET up for you then that will save a huge amount of overhead which allows me to cut the price for you. But that means only if you trust me and DON'T GOT TROUGH SILK ROAD AT ALL If you want to do that you should create a pgp key so I can send you the address securely. 5 days read
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IF YOU WANT TO STICK UP FOR SOMEONE LIKE THAT WHO IS WILLING TO SCREW DPR THEN YOU MY FRIEND SHOULD BE BANNED!!!! DPR DESERVES HIS MONEY AND MROUID TRIED TO CHEAT HIM OUT OF HIS MONEY....... ANOTHER CLIENT TOLD ME HE BOUGHT 3 POUNDS OFF OUID OOE AND NOW THATS A LIE.... I GRILLED HIM ON IT AND ASKED HIM MANY TIMES ABOUT IT AND IT WAS CLEAR HE WAS SERIOUS... NOW HE WAS LYING?!?!?!? BULL SHIT.... DRP KNOWS WHATS UP.... EITHER HES GOING TO TURN THIS INTO A CASH GRAB AND CHARGE OUID TO COME BACK OR HES OUT!!! THATS THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS... HE DID SCAM DPR AND DPR KNOWS IT..... HES ONLY COMING BACK IF HE PAYS HIS WAY BACK... HE WONT COME BACK BECAUSE IT WAS FOUND THAT THIS WAS A LIE..... YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT...
WHY STILL STAND UP FOR A GUY WHO SCREWS THE PERSON WHO MADE THIS PLACE POSSIBLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO US.
fuck that... long live dpr and sr!!!
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lol.. your sticking up for someone who screws sr... even after you came to me and apologized to me for being an ass regarding this whole thing you still stand up for the guy...
You're a puppet!
I have previously explained to you the reason for initially messaging you to apologise. I did so when mrouid's account was suspended as it appeared as though that action was taken as a result of the claims you made. When the full story came to light, and I had contacted mrouid, he explained the situation to me. With the evidence presented to me, and the manner in which each person carried themselves in the face of that evidence, along with your stated goal via private message of ridding yourself of the competition I came to the logical conclusion that something didn't quite add up on your end.
I explained the above just last night; perhaps you need to lay off the drugs a little if they're messing you up that much.
I'm a puppet you say? For whom? For mrouid? I took it upon myself to come to the forums to defend him; he did not ask nor encourage me to do so. I did it because I respect him and value him as a member of the Silk Road community, just as he respects and values us, his customers. I have yet to see one of these so-called "unsatisfied customers" come to the forum to back up you and your claims. Perhaps you lacked the foresight to make forum profiles for these "clients", and you know that a freshly registered profile would carry no weight and would be fairly obvious as a shill account.
The noticeable lack of any of these "unsatisfied customers", and the prevalence of mrouid's satisfied customers, speaks volumes.
I will capitalize the important words
mrouid(99) It's going to be at least $3600 going through silk road. If we can work out an ALTERNATIVE PAYMENT then I can work on the price though.
CLIENT Hm, what kinda alternative payment did you have in mind?
mrouid(99) If you can SEND CASH (in advance) I could probably shop it around for C$2800-3000. Just right now changing btc to $$$ is a big problem (very costly).
CLIENT How would you suggest about going that route? just curious I'm not sure what way you are trying to imply lol sorry as you can tell im new to SR and not sure of many things
mrouid(99) I'm not really ALLOWED to suggest that but ID you SEND CASH to a DROP LOCATION that I CAN SET up for you then that will save a huge amount of overhead which allows me to cut the price for you. But that means only if you trust me and DON'T GOT TROUGH SILK ROAD AT ALL If you want to do that you should create a pgp key so I can send you the address securely. 5 days read
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Drawing attention to "the important words" (which you somehow managed to misspell) ensures that they are taken out of context. Having read the "quotes" in their entirety, and in the context which they were stated, I maintain that mrouid would not have cash sent to a drop location (i.e. a real life transaction). I don't think even you would be that stupid, and given that mrouid is clearly of a much higher intelligence than you, I know for a fact that he is not that stupid. Ergo your little story above makes absolutely no sense.
IF YOU WANT TO STICK UP FOR SOMEONE LIKE THAT WHO IS WILLING TO SCREW DPR THEN YOU MY FRIEND SHOULD BE BANNED!!!! DPR DESERVES HIS MONEY AND MROUID TRIED TO CHEAT HIM OUT OF HIS MONEY....... ANOTHER CLIENT TOLD ME HE BOUGHT 3 POUNDS OFF OUID OOE AND NOW THATS A LIE.... I GRILLED HIM ON IT AND ASKED HIM MANY TIMES ABOUT IT AND IT WAS CLEAR HE WAS SERIOUS... NOW HE WAS LYING?!?!?!? BULL SHIT.... DRP KNOWS WHATS UP.... EITHER HES GOING TO TURN THIS INTO A CASH GRAB AND CHARGE OUID TO COME BACK OR HES OUT!!! THATS THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS... HE DID SCAM DPR AND DPR KNOWS IT..... HES ONLY COMING BACK IF HE PAYS HIS WAY BACK... HE WONT COME BACK BECAUSE IT WAS FOUND THAT THIS WAS A LIE..... YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT...
You were willing to screw DPR with "SR down specials", which I have pointed out multiple times and you stated was "a mistake"; you knowingly violated the terms of the Seller's Guide which you agreed to abide by upon becoming a vendor, and if you did not do so knowingly, you have not yet read the Seller's Guide meaning you shouldn't be doing business here - so drop the "good citizen / looking out for DPR" act.
The customer that claimed he bought 3 pounds off mrouid OOE has mailed SR Support stating that it was a fabrication, which mrouid has told us right here in this thread. If he is lying on that point, DPR will know about it and take it into consideration when delivering his / her judgement on the matter.
It doesn't make a difference to me or most of mrouid's other customers whether he comes back or not; we will do business with him wherever he ends up. He used to have an account on BMR and if he returns there, or decides to set up his own site, he will get our business. Silk Road will lose the most professional vendor it has ever seen, the huge amount of commission from his sales, and our community will lose a large number of contributors who strongly believe in an agorist society. We will leave this place because we believe in true justice; if that is not delivered, we will be violating our own principles by advocating a corrupt system that allows injustices to occur.
If mrouid were conducting sales out of escrow he would not have been in the top 2% of vendors - his vendor statistics, namely his number of transactions, would ensure he didn't reach the top 2%.
Your little scam is coming crashing down around you, and you're becoming more and more desperate. Anybody who has even a passing interest in psychology will notice that. Your continued interest and insistence here on the forum shows that you are desperate for people to believe your story; as its constructor, that is entirely understandable. Fabricating an untruth requires that people believe it lest you seem like a liar, hence your insistence that it is true - which, ironically, is cementing your reputation as a liar.
You aren't half as smart as you think you are, mtljohn. Never assume that you are the sharpest tool in the box - the sharpest tool is only sharp because it is rarely used; that analogy applies to the mind. ;)
WHY STILL STAND UP FOR A GUY WHO SCREWS THE PERSON WHO MADE THIS PLACE POSSIBLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO US.
fuck that... long live dpr and sr!!!
Why still stand up for this vendor? I am standing up for him because I believe him over you, as does every other poster here. We have much more reason to trust mrouid than trust you - I mean look at yourself... You're coming across as insane. ???
Again, quit the "long live dpr and sr" crap; nobody is buying it. You care for nobody but yourself; you're the ultimate narcissist. I'm sorry to tell you, but such people are not well accepted by this community - as is evident by your mass of negative karma, signifying that a huge amount of people disagree with what you say and how you say it.
Good luck mtljohn. You'll certainly need it - both here on Silk Road, and in life in general.
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BRO HES STILL NOT BACK... GO CHECK THE ROUNDTABLE FOR SOME NEW INFO ON THAT "client who lied"
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Fuck it I'll post it here so everyone can judge for them selves..
THIS IS THE CONVO WITH THE SUPPOSED "LIAR CLIENT" LOL OF MROUIDS........
HE SEEMS PRETTY SURE OF WHAT HES SAYING AND SEEMS TO BREAK IT DOWN MANY TIMES....
HATE ON ME ALL YOU WANT BUT DPR DESERVES HIS MONEY AND OUID DESERVES TO GET BANNED FOR SCREWING DPR.... WHO KNOWS HOW MANY TIMES HE DID THIS KIND OF SHIT... 10 TIMES... 100 TIMES... 1000 TIMES.... HE IS THE RAT AND THE ONE IN THE WRONG BUT YOU ALL ATTACK ME... ???
I WILL LOOK OUT FOR THE BEST INTERESTS ON SR AND AS SUCH IF YOU TRY TO SCAM MY BUDDY DPR AND I BECOME AWARE OF THIS YOU CAN COUNT ON ME ADVISING HIM OF WHATS GOING ON!
read fully from the bottom up!
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Mtljohn(99) enjoy the free week punk!! 6 hours read
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canardwc No problem i have already sent a message to DPR ;)
Your just a bitch, thats all!
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Mtljohn(99) I will now do the right thing and copy and paste this conversation to DPR.. I will let him decide if he should ban your account!
I know he will... you should do whats right, DPR is no one we should be fucking over!!!!
Thanks for showing how sneaky you are.... you are the rat who tried to scam DPR and now he will now because I have the proof and it came from your words!
Thanks
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canardwc Never talk with me again fucking bitch
You'r just a fucking slut, i hope when you was young, you was a little pussy
Fuck you
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Mtljohn(99) Sooooo???? 1 day read
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Mtljohn(99) hey bro... your sample went out today and hopefully it will be there soon..
We need to talk tho... what you and mrouid did by going around SR for better prices was wrong.... SR and DPR deserve every penny and should not be fucked by a greedy mrouid...
I need to ask you to come clean to SR and let them know you dealt with ouid off the site like you told me in this msg..
They may ban your account they may not.... you can always make a new account and come back... that is no issue.. what is an issue is the truth!!
I love sr and this place and if ppl deal outside of SR it takes money from DPR and he needs the money to keep us safe....
Please do the right thing... it is worth it,.... I will still sell to you on your new account so dont worry if you get banned... Just tell me its you on the new account and we will deal with getting you the sizes you need.
Please let me know how you are proceeding..
thanks and i know you will do the right thing.
John
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Mtljohn(99) Yes I read that a few days ago.... This is the reason I only deal with weed... once you start dealing with the heavy stuff ppl start to take notice...
Anyways... please let me know once you get that package and then we can see what we can do on larger amounts for you..
talk soon.
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canardwc Hello,
Ok i'll let you know when i got your sample :)
No problem, i understand why you asked me that.
Did you see this :
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/quebec-police-dismantle-massive-drug-network-004540629.html
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Mtljohn(99) I got it.. it will go out early in the week...Its coming regular mail and can take a while...
Please advise me once you receive the sample.
Thanks again and i hope i did not offend you buy asking about the transactions in more detail.
Talk to you soon.
John
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Mtljohn(99) I got it.. it will go out early in the week...Its coming regular mail and can take a while...
Please advise me once you receive the sample.
Thanks again and i hope i did not offend you buy asking about the transactions in more detail.
Talk to you soon.
John
HE SENT HIS ADDRESS!
Mtljohn(99) You never know whats possible... its not like its not possible.. listen.. send me your address and i'll send a smaple on monday... no need to pay or anything..
you will see my weed is by far nicer.. its lighter in color... has more red hairs, is super dense, not leafy and not dark.. oh its also covered in crystals...
please send me your address encrypted and I'll get it out this week.
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canardwc OMG, what do you think ?
I bought 3P for sure without escrow
4P -> Only 10K$
So i spend 5K$ in 30 transaction
What do you think ? I try to scamm you for a sample ? seriously this is ridiculous ......
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Mtljohn(99) No I do remember, its just that your numbers dont make sense.. you said you bought 7 or 8 pounds from mrouid on here.. right.. plus to 2 off SR
your stats show 37 transactions yet only 14k spent... I dont see how you could have bought 7 or 8 pounds from him for that amount or in that amount of transactions...
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Mtljohn(99) No I do remember, its just that your numbrs dont make sense.. you said you bought 7 or 8 pounds from mrouid on here.. right.. plus to 2 off SR
your stats shot 37 transactions yet only 14k spent... I dont see how you could have bought 7 or 8 pounds from him for that amount or in that amount of transactions...
something about this and you make no sense... care to explain?
canardwc Its for a sample review to compare with mrouid stuff, you don't remember ?
I added 35bucks to exchange just for you ....
Look the discussion plz 5 days read
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Mtljohn(99) Hey sorry.. I stoped listing small amounts of M39.. contact seller bigbill6778 for any order under 1 oz.
Thanks
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canardwc Hello !
I'll got my coins today ! You can up the listing for the sample 7gr for 35bucks ! :)
I'll order it, and i'll give my review on the forum ;) 6 days read
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Mtljohn(99) k cool 13 days read
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canardwc I want to keep my 10$ in my account, because i'll get some coins tomorrow or monday to buy a item on SR.
I prefer to keep it, i'm always scared by a market fluctuation ...
I'll buy your 7gr for 35bucks tomorrow or monday for sure ;) i just added 35$ to exchange in BTC ;)
I go sleep now, you can reply me, i'll check it tomorrow morning !
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Mtljohn(99) ok..
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/c3fa1cceb8
how about this
John
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canardwc I just have 10$ right now, but i'll got some coins soon i hope and i'm ok with your deal.
You can create a listing for free, i'll order it and you can check my buyer stats.
I'm not a lie / scammer or other ;)
Moi je suis français et l'anglais c'est pas mon fort ;)
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Mtljohn(99) K, You could be fucking with me and talking trash... what I will do is make you a listing for 7 grams.. I'll charge you 35 bucks or 5 a gram...
as a test...
does this work for you.. i will include shipping track and trace so i know you got it..
Pi je parlez un peu en francias mais je suis un anglophone! :)
Let me know... I promise you that my M39 will put your old connects to shame....and unlike him.. my batch is always the same!!!
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canardwc Hello,
Here is my SR account, you can check my buyer stats here :
Total transactions: 37
Total spent: $14627.11
Refund rate: 0%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 1 year
You can add to this total; 2LB of M39 (deal without escrow) => 5000$
I bought here approx for 20K$
I bought to mrouid 7/8 LB of M39.
I'm interested to try your m39 to compare it with the m39 of mrouid.
I'll post my review on your topic of course !
You send it from Quebec ?
Parle tu francais ? :-)
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Man I'm trying to find all these damn threads to apologize to the general public for my drunken rants last night haha. I'm not going to edit or delete them for posterity. The points made still stand for the most part I believe, carry on!
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Fuck it I'll post it here so everyone can judge for them selves..
THIS IS THE CONVO WITH THE SUPPOSED "LIAR CLIENT" LOL OF MROUIDS........
HE SEEMS PRETTY SURE OF WHAT HES SAYING AND SEEMS TO BREAK IT DOWN MANY TIMES....
HATE ON ME ALL YOU WANT BUT DPR DESERVES HIS MONEY AND OUID DESERVES TO GET BANNED FOR SCREWING DPR.... WHO KNOWS HOW MANY TIMES HE DID THIS KIND OF SHIT... 10 TIMES... 100 TIMES... 1000 TIMES.... HE IS THE RAT AND THE ONE IN THE WRONG BUT YOU ALL ATTACK ME... ???
I WILL LOOK OUT FOR THE BEST INTERESTS ON SR AND AS SUCH IF YOU TRY TO SCAM MY BUDDY DPR AND I BECOME AWARE OF THIS YOU CAN COUNT ON ME ADVISING HIM OF WHATS GOING ON!
[SNIP]
Okay first of all, DPR is not your "buddy", so cut the "MY BUDDY DPR" crap. You're beginning sound psychotic.
Second of all, one cannot "check the Roundtable" if they are not a vendor. You're an idiot.
Is the "message log" that you posted supposed to prove something? It simply shows a potential customer (who eventually seemed to be very unimpressed with you) stating something in order to inflate his buyer statistics in order to receive a sample - just as mrouid stated, funnily enough.
It would be the same as me stating in a message to mrouid that I have spent $5,000 buying weed OOE from mtljohn in order to inflate my buyer stats. The fact that somebody says something does not automatically make it true. ??? As was stated, the buyer did that to inflate his buyer stats.
DPR does deserve his commission - that is not in question. ???
You yourself attempted to make sales off-site, so don't come in here trying to act as a "good Silk Road citizen" with the best interests of DPR and the community at heart. You don't have the best interests of this community at heart, mtljohn. You place your own interests above all else. Such a quality is usually a benefit in a capitalist marketplace, but this is not a capitalist marketplace - it is an agorist marketplace. Silk Road and this forum are not just about selling drugs. ::)
Can you explain why so many buyers, who are willing to follow DPR wherever he goes - therefore having no interest in whether his account is reinstated or not - are coming here to defend him against claims of OOE sales? Can you further explain why none of the so-called "unsatisfied customers" are making their voices heard in support of you?!
It would appear you don't have any "buddies", mtljohn.
- grahamgreene
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Fuck it I'll post it here so everyone can judge for them selves..
THIS IS THE CONVO WITH THE SUPPOSED "LIAR CLIENT" LOL OF MROUIDS........
HE SEEMS PRETTY SURE OF WHAT HES SAYING AND SEEMS TO BREAK IT DOWN MANY TIMES....
HATE ON ME ALL YOU WANT BUT DPR DESERVES HIS MONEY AND OUID DESERVES TO GET BANNED FOR SCREWING DPR.... WHO KNOWS HOW MANY TIMES HE DID THIS KIND OF SHIT... 10 TIMES... 100 TIMES... 1000 TIMES.... HE IS THE RAT AND THE ONE IN THE WRONG BUT YOU ALL ATTACK ME... ???
I WILL LOOK OUT FOR THE BEST INTERESTS ON SR AND AS SUCH IF YOU TRY TO SCAM MY BUDDY DPR AND I BECOME AWARE OF THIS YOU CAN COUNT ON ME ADVISING HIM OF WHATS GOING ON!
[SNIP]
Okay first of all, DPR is not your "buddy", so cut the "MY BUDDY DPR" crap. You're beginning sound psychotic.
Second of all, one cannot "check the Roundtable" if they are not a vendor. You're an idiot.
Is the "message log" that you posted supposed to prove something? It simply shows a potential customer (who eventually seemed to be very unimpressed with you) stating something in order to inflate his buyer statistics in order to receive a sample - just as mrouid stated, funnily enough.
It would be the same as me stating in a message to mrouid that I have spent $5,000 buying weed OOE from mtljohn in order to inflate my buyer stats. The fact that somebody says something does not automatically make it true. ??? As was stated, the buyer did that to inflate his buyer stats.
DPR does deserve his commission - that is not in question. ???
You yourself attempted to make sales off-site, so don't come in here trying to act as a "good Silk Road citizen" with the best interests of DPR and the community at heart. You don't have the best interests of this community at heart, mtljohn. You place your own interests above all else. Such a quality is usually a benefit in a capitalist marketplace, but this is not a capitalist marketplace - it is an agorist marketplace. Silk Road and this forum are not just about selling drugs. ::)
Can you explain why so many buyers, who are willing to follow DPR wherever he goes - therefore having no interest in whether his account is reinstated or not - are coming here to defend him against claims of OOE sales? Can you further explain why none of the so-called "unsatisfied customers" are making their voices heard in support of you?!
It would appear you don't have any "buddies", mtljohn.
- grahamgreene
GG.. you are trash.. you just dance and sing your way around real shit... fuck you!!!!! hopefully you will see this b4 i block you ass!!! oh yeah.. fuck mrouid and any one of his clients who helped him screw DPR..... that money dpr could have made, may have been enough to stop that BS 3 day down shit we went through last week... thanks for contributing to that!!!
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GG.. you are trash.. you just dance and sing your way around real shit... fuck you!!!!! hopefully you will see this b4 i block you ass!!! oh yeah.. fuck mrouid and any one of his clients who helped him screw DPR..... that money dpr could have made, may have been enough to stop that BS 3 day down shit we went through last week... thanks for contributing to that!!!
Getting a little frustrated at being made a fool of, are we? Temper, temper, young man!
You are literally the most illogical little man I've ever had the displeasure of conversing with. Your reasoning confounds me!
Blocking me so as you won't have to answer the questions I put to you, or reply to the statements I make is only going to make you look even more stupid, but go ahead. It'll do away with the enjoyment I get from showing you up to be the fool that you are, but I suppose I can find entertainment elsewhere. :)
It's been a great displeasure, kid.
- grahamgreene
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Mrouid has never once asked me to deal outside of SR or escrow. All of my transactions have been perfect. Honestly if mrouid was to stop selling it would be a great loss to the sr community and SR. I will stand by mrouid and say that he is a fantastic seller. And from what i see, he has been framed/set up. Hopefully this weill get resolved because this is costing people time and money, when they just want to get back to business. I hope your seller rights are returned to you mrouid!
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mtljohn- you and me both know that you dont give 2 shits about the fact that DPR's commision was taken from him on a few sales. you wanted your #1 competition who was kicking your ass and taking all your customers gone so that you could take his spot as the #1 canadian cannabis seller on SR.
In some of your old threads i stood up for you and agreed that what you were doing wasn't wrong when you were getting bashed for calling your product better than his. That was totally acceptable in my book its healthy market competition
This however is very pathetic on your part. youre just playing dirty in desperation trying to do anything you can to bring yourself to the top. After seeing this post me, and all of my business associates will never use your service, sorry.
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yeah.. maybe he will pay his way back and if so thats whacked....
he is a rat and those were his words and SR knows it because the have access to his msgs..
Also.. I hope he comes back... I'm planning a big welcome back mrouid sale..
all 1/4 pounds 500
all half pounds 1000
all pounds 2000.
:)
Hahahaha You're full of it.. I'm sorry, but I just cant see this actually coming to fruition. I really hope it does though. I will buy everything you've got. lol
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mtljohn you ruined your business and its safe to say nothing will save you just stop trying to convince everyone because your digging your self a deeper hole
even if you try to make another account people will still find out its you, just go to BMR where all the other scammers lurk
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If you have proof of this conversation then you should report these actions... Not only because he is my competition but also because that is a big nono.. SR deserves every penny of commission. We should not be dealing out side of SR for any reason... anyways... its your call, but what he did is against the rules.. if you do decide to report him please let me know so I can make sure i"m on SR ass to take care of this..! not only that... if they do kick him off I will hook you up with PK all day at about 3000 each! :)
That is my exact costs btw...
So you bribed this random customer to grass on Mrouid for you, real smooth player you are.......
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Thank you everyone for your overwhelming support (except for mtljohn obviously). I think you can stop the mud slinging back and forth at this point. I did admit outright in my very first post that I had offered the possibility of alternative payment schemes on some rare occasions. This was not something that I actively encouraged at all to increase my profits nor to deprive Silk Road of any commissions. The only time I (stupidly) offered OEE sales were when it would have been totally impossible to accommodate buyer's requests in the normal way through Silk Road such as the example I gave.
Rather than to simply turn down their requests I put myself in hot water by trying to accommodate them in any way that I could. mtljohn may be a rat and a generally despicable individual for impersonating multiple buyers with the sole intent of setting me up and having me banned, however I'm nevertheless guilty of falling into his trap and allowing him to have the best of me by violating SR rules and making various offers to these "fake buyers".
I have spoken to DRP and acknowledged that what I did was unethical and we've come to an arrangement whereby my account has been reactivated pending good behavior. I doubt he would have come to this decision if it were not for the overwhelming support that everyone has given me. As a thank you to all those who have stood up for me and to show my appreciation to my customers I will be re-listing items at a considerable discount for everyone.
Regards,
mrouid
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Good work MrOuid :) Now lets see if mtrljohn drops his prices to $2000 an LB, this guy is a right clown!
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I'm genuinely happy to see what the outcome of this issue was.
makku
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mrouid you are a punk and a liar....
i will now list my welcome back mrouid specials...
all pounds at 2100!!! all quarters at 600.... come get them boys and girls!
:)
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yeah.. maybe he will pay his way back and if so thats whacked....
he is a rat and those were his words and SR knows it because the have access to his msgs..
Also.. I hope he comes back... I'm planning a big welcome back mrouid sale..
all 1/4 pounds 500
all half pounds 1000
all pounds 2000.
:)
the fact that less than 24hrs ago you said 2000 an LB and 500 a QP just amkes you look like a a lying sack of shite, especially now you are saying 2100 & 600. I am going to be watching your sellers feedback closely see all these new orders you've had piling in :) so far only 5 sales this week?
EDIT: oh this just made me laugh, just had a look at your sales for the last week, all for 1g listings, hahahahahahahahahah!!!!!
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I have conducted thousands of $$ with MrO and will only ever use MrO.
Dread has created the greatest strike for our cause and for liberal freedom to be restored, but as an underground movement sometimes you only have a certain amount of b/c and MrO is cool he will let you pay 1/2 now half on arrival, cause of the trust, because Dread created this community. But MrO did enough in escrow to never deserve an account suspension. MrO is a hero, a freedom fighter and an inspiration.
We are one community.
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mrouid you are a punk and a liar....
i will now list my welcome back mrouid specials...
all pounds at 2100!!! all quarters at 600.... come get them boys and girls!
:)
mtljohn. Don't you think your taking this too far now? I don't want anything to do with this, but I am fed up with the drama ensuing across the many discussion boards. Threads, threads, and threads? For what? You have your vendors account, focus on business and your reputation. Let mrouid get on with his. If you are displeased with the way SilkRoad is operating or their decision with reinstating mrouids vendors account, then terminate your vendors account, and get on with your life. I feel your very frustrated but enough is enough! Please go and focus your energies on something more productive, like boosting your reputation. Please see this post as some impartial advice with best of intentions for you :)
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Thank you everyone for your overwhelming support (except for mtljohn obviously). I think you can stop the mud slinging back and forth at this point. I did admit outright in my very first post that I had offered the possibility of alternative payment schemes on some rare occasions. This was not something that I actively encouraged at all to increase my profits nor to deprive Silk Road of any commissions. The only time I (stupidly) offered OEE sales were when it would have been totally impossible to accommodate buyer's requests in the normal way through Silk Road such as the example I gave.
Rather than to simply turn down their requests I put myself in hot water by trying to accommodate them in any way that I could. mtljohn may be a rat and a generally despicable individual for impersonating multiple buyers with the sole intent of setting me up and having me banned, however I'm nevertheless guilty of falling into his trap and allowing him to have the best of me by violating SR rules and making various offers to these "fake buyers".
I have spoken to DRP and acknowledged that what I did was unethical and we've come to an arrangement whereby my account has been reactivated pending good behavior. I doubt he would have come to this decision if it were not for the overwhelming support that everyone has given me. As a thank you to all those who have stood up for me and to show my appreciation to my customers I will be re-listing items at a considerable discount for everyone.
Regards,
mrouid
Excellent news! Thank you for your honesty, and thanks to DPR for his/her sense of justice. I look forward to many more years of successful transactions for all! :)
- grahamgreene
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Got nothing bad to say about Mrouid, Ive only ordered off him once but my experience with him was nothing but good. Hes been vending for over a year and he managed to maintain a ratting of 99% that says alot and it shows he cares about his custies.
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Excellent news on the re-instatement. Welcome back.
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This thread is locked.
Welcome back!
Let's stop the little games.