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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: MrsNice on September 12, 2012, 12:06 pm
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I will be stepping back from the drugs and dealing in collectibles at this time, specifically items from WWII & Nazi Germany.
1st off, I'm not a Nazi or do I condone the horrible acts committed by Hitler's Army during WW2. I simply look at owning any of this type of memorabilia as owning a piece of history. I apologize in advance if I offend anyone.
Now let me explain a little about I came into owning this and other similar German items from WWII.
It's well known that Germany today is disgusted by the actions of Hitler and the actions committed by its citizens during this time period. The years following the demise of the 3rd Reich they made every attempt to locate and destroy any reference of the Nazi party and erase these years from the countries timeline. In an effort to preserve these items a friend of my father mailed a variety of items to the United States which have been inherited by myself.
This items I'm contemplating listing are rare collectibles for which a premium price is paid. The problem with selling these is of course the associated stigma they carry with them and therefore isn't allowed on many of the online auction sites...So, I turn to you SR community!
I have many items, just not sure what I want to get rid of yet at this time as they truly are priceless. I have items large & small and ranging in price from a few hundred dollars to a few thousand dollars according to a collectors price guide I own.
Only the serious, professional buyer with good statistical standings on SR need inquire.
Thank you for you interest; enjoy checking out my collection as I decide what to list.
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Thank you for you interest; enjoy checking out my collection as I decide what to list.
Hi MrsNice,
You state the following on your vendor profile:
I am only shipping within the Domestic USA via USPS Priority Mail. Payment options will be worked out on a case by case basis but may involve early finalization of some % of the whole amount.
Please use privnote when sending your address information or any other sensitive communications.
and the following on your current item listing for your SS visor hat:
I'm not entirely comfortable with the escrow system on these items and will work with the purchasing individual on possible 1/2 paid up front & 1/2 paid on arrival.
If interested we can discuss this in more details.
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You cannot ask a buyer to FE until you have 35+ transactions and have been selling here for more than 1 month. You've been here for 4 months, but only have 15 transactions. As such, you are prohibited from asking for full or partial finalisation from buyers; if you are found to be doing this and it is reported to SR admins, your vendor privileges will be revoked.
I also feel I should point out that requesting buyers use Privnote to send details and / or other such sensitive information is an absolutely terrible idea as there is no guarantee that Privnote is secure, and there are many reasons (search the forums) to believe that at least some of the Privnote messages sent get read by someone before the receiver opens the link.
- grahamgreene
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Everything that grahamgreene said is true. You are highly suspicious. I would be interested in a visor hat of a u boat captain, not so much the SS cap, but what appears to be the case is that you are setting up to find someone to scam hundreds of bitcoins, and you decided that you might as well choose someone who might be interested in nazi memorabilia to scam so that you don't feel guilty about it because you assume anyone interested in nazi memorabilia might be a nazi. If that's what you're doing, its not going to work.
However, I am and know people who are interested in kriegsmarine memorabilia.
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Wow. Assuming the worst huh guys? I'm not trying to scam anyone and to the contrary my concern is getting scammed myself. I truly do not want anyone to finalize early and want to trust the escrow system but I've been fucked over before as a buyer and my concern is that with these items I can't afford to send it to someone and not ever receive payment. I thought SR would be a good place to sell these and thought there might be interest but perhaps I'll just go back to Oakleaf (www.oakleafmilitaria.com if your interested in verifying prices).
Thanks for the comments, I did not intend to be looked at as a scammer but I guess that is the nature of SR. Everyone is a potential scammer till proved otherwise. IF there is interest and we can figure out a way for everyone to feel safe I have the product to sell and am willing to do business dealing out rare pieces of history.
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Wow. Assuming the worst huh guys? I'm not trying to scam anyone and to the contrary my concern is getting scammed myself. I truly do not want anyone to finalize early and want to trust the escrow system but I've been fucked over before as a buyer and my concern is that with these items I can't afford to send it to someone and not ever receive payment. I thought SR would be a good place to sell these and thought there might be interest but perhaps I'll just go back to Oakleaf (www.oakleafmilitaria.com if your interested in verifying prices).
Thanks for the comments, I did not intend to be looked at as a scammer but I guess that is the nature of SR. Everyone is a potential scammer till proved otherwise. IF there is interest and we can figure out a way for everyone to feel safe I have the product to sell and am willing to do business dealing out rare pieces of history.
MrsNice, this is a blackmarket. Some vendors do scam. You don't have a perfect rating.
They're not assuming the worst, they're assuming the most likely result.
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Well, MrsNice could be a scammer, I am related to a Jewish person by marriage (Jewish boy married a cousin) so can understand how someone might do some scamming on your Nazi worshiping reprobate. I've hears a few of the older Jewish guys talk about what they think about Nazis! However, the interest in memorabilia in no way indicates a persons political persuasion.
I knew a girl whose brother was into 're-enactments', he played a 'Redcoat' (American) but obviously disliked the British army and its claim to America.
Some people collect USSR WW2 memorabilia but this does not mean they back the murder of thousands of Polish officers and intelligentsia by the Communists or the millions slaughtered (some in concentration camps) by the WW2 era 'Stalinist'' who were just as bad as Hitler in many ways but 'they' or 'we' won so the victors paint a picture of themselves as heroes who never harmed a fly. Some of us were heroes, the British for example had to defend our own land and our neighbours land once it was bombed and invaded.
But all in all grown men murdering each other in the name of this or that cause always made me uncomfortable unless it was some invaded nation or a nation attacked taking up the right to defend itself.
So, Nazi memorabilia, many sane people collect it. Many British people had relatives who fought in WW2 and who bought home 'souvenirs'. I have a few of these, 'found' by uncles and a grandad who like many soldiers, thought it was ok to send stuff home that they found. Some officers sent home entire furnishings and I know some who served in Gulf War 1 and 2 bought home souvenirs although its more strict now and you cannot just smuggle home a handgun or two.
In Vietnam, it was not unusual for soldiers to smuggle home a souvenir kilo of heroin.
Same with Afghanistan. Soldiers there (I know) get offered all sorts of deals, mainly heroin, but lots of prescription drugs and of course, hashish or bud, mostly hash. Local kids trade around all the bases. I'd bring home a few kilo and at least have a good wage out of it! And help the Afghans who have always grown poppies for opium and always will.
We can buy it in any UK street, usually cut to hell, but SR has some 'good stuff' that is at least not cut to hell and likely purer than street heroin which is mostly rubbish and always dangerous as it contains stuff not meant to be in the bloodstream and its arteries and veins.
Should be legalised but that is another chat.
So to end this, yes I have some Nazi memorablilia, a few medals, German trinkets, nothing SS and nothing belonging to Hitler himself although it would be a good scam to sell shit personally owned by Hitler. Well not owned by huim as such. More something he might have owned, but we can always find stuff that is made in Germany from the 30s and 40s and just say that Hitler actually owned it. I think people obsessed with Hitler arre worth scamming just in case they are worshipers of the dude which would be pretty fucked up.
I almost inherited a German officers pistol, working order, but the person who died had someone who tidied up and informed the police who took the gun and likely kept it themselves which is what happened in the 70s and 80s. I bet that pistol was worth a few pounds, but illegal also so selling would be hard. Plus we cannot sell weapons here so that is a no no.
Will have a root out of my old German stuff. Got books, various medals (German) and stuff took off dead Germans who did not need it any more. UK soldiers would take watches, cigarettes and any ammo and always a pistol but not usually the rifles. After the war, under occupation, many people made a lot of money trading the war booty taken off the nazis. Some officers could send home any furniture from ANY government building as it was all deemed to be 'nazi' which was the government of the time. So any government property or proerty of anyone in government or employed by government could be looted or 'requisitioned'. One of my uncles worked sending stuff back home for the officers. Spoils of war! Some even looted the gold they found. A few Americans got very rich. A few soldiers got very lucky and cut deals to get the loot home. I bet the soldiers in Afghanistan, some of them, will have been clever enough to bring over a few thousand dollars and send some kilos back because the military have a LOT of traffic going back and forth. It might be strict but in some ways its still an open market IF you know the right people. Soldiers always know the right people. And in the UK there are many Afghan/Asian families who have grown very comfortable because they have 500 second cousins and there is always one who can get hold of the H. Always one who has a business here and there. Heroin was in the UK way before the Asian community emigrated here so do not blame the foreigners for the heroin! We always have has it, for centuries it was accepted, even legal and on sale and the ingredient in the cure for every illness.
Shame Hitler was not addicted to heroin and wrote some kind of Lord of the Rings drama and not Mein Kampf with its dislike of many classes of people and many races apart from white Anglo Saxon protestant German!
So will root though my WW2 loot and maybe post here what I have. Saves paying extortionate Ebay fees and any moral objection to selling any war memorabilia is a bit silly as this business makes SR more legit which is a good thing. As long as we don't get nutters selling SS knifes, or gold made from the teeth of the murdered, war memorabilia is normal stuff really.
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As BlarghRawr stated:
MrsNice, this is a blackmarket. Some vendors do scam. You don't have a perfect rating.
They're not assuming the worst, they're assuming the most likely result.
You're attempting to break the rules, requiring buyers to FE on big-ticket items - this is typical scamming behaviour, and your less than perfect rating would indicate that previous buyers have not been fully satisfied with your services.
- grahamgreene
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Fuck this, for so many reasons.
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Nazi Germany should have won the war.
I'm all over this, thanks OP.
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I'm going to be out of town so took my listing down for the weekend. I should be back monday and am going to work on cataloging everything I have. I think this may be easier than attempting to list it all. Then as individuals show interest they can PM me on the item they want more info on and I can create a listing for it and send pictures. I will work within the SR escrow system fully, however will not take any chances selling to individuals will low stats, purchases, etc...
To the individual looking for the U-Boat captain visor, I think I have it. Is it white, with the leaf embelum? I'm not sure what the cost is for it, but the one I have is in near perfect condition. Some of the other items I have are very well worn and show their age but this one was preserved quite nicely. I'll see if I can find info in my guide when I get home on cost.
I'm also going to be working with a dealer of these items to better help me price, determine what I actually have and give names to my items, and verify their authenticity.
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All this Fascist propaganda should be incinerated, along with fascists themselves, i hope any Nazi buying this garbage gets scammed too, you deserve it for being an ignorant sub human.
No Pasaran!
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All this Fascist propaganda should be incinerated, along with fascists themselves, i hope any Nazi buying this garbage gets scammed too, you deserve it for being an ignorant sub human.
No Pasaran!
This is an agorist marketplace TNY, thus MrsNice is free to sell anything she wishes as long as she doesn't contravene the rules put in place to protect the marketplace, and protect against scammers. For you to suggest that this person is 'an ignorant sub human' simply because they wish to sell something is in itself incredibly ignorant. I don't care what your personal, religious or moral beliefs are; this is an agorist marketplace, and there is absolutely no place for "religion" or a "holier than thou" attitude. You may wish to read up on agorism, and I suggest a quick Google search in order to do so.
The items MrsNice is talking about are not propaganda, they are historical items. If you are offended by them and wish to restrict their sale, then quite frankly you have no place being here.
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All this Fascist propaganda should be incinerated, along with fascists themselves, i hope any Nazi buying this garbage gets scammed too, you deserve it for being an ignorant sub human.
No Pasaran!
This is an agorist marketplace TNY, thus MrsNice is free to sell anything she wishes as long as she doesn't contravene the rules put in place to protect the marketplace, and protect against scammers. For you to suggest that this person is 'an ignorant sub human' simply because they wish to sell something is in itself incredibly ignorant. I don't care what your personal, religious or moral beliefs are; this is an agorist marketplace, and there is absolutely no place for "religion" or a "holier than thou" attitude. You may wish to read up on agorism, and I suggest a quick Google search in order to do so.
The items MrsNice is talking about are not propoganda, they are historical items. If you are offended by them and wish to restrict their sale, then quite frankly you have no place being here.
+karma for this.
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All this Fascist propaganda should be incinerated, along with fascists themselves, i hope any Nazi buying this garbage gets scammed too, you deserve it for being an ignorant sub human.
No Pasaran!
So what you're saying is that I shouldn't ask if they have any leftover showerheads then? I could really use a new one in my bathroom and I heard the Nazis made the best ones.
PS - If you can't take a joke, you don't belong here :P
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I've done some work over the past couple weeks with an astute collector of WWII collectibles and have a little more comfort now regarding worth of these items and feel I can more accurately price these for sale. I've also decided that it would be easier to start with 1 listing picturing many of the visor hats and can create custom listings for individual items as anyone shows interest.
So, please take a look, let me know your thoughts, or offers regarding what's pictured. I will create a custom listing for individual items and provide additional pictures as needed.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/50e4f9e654
Thanks Again,
MrsNice