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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: HarmReduction on September 10, 2012, 11:00 am

Title: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: HarmReduction on September 10, 2012, 11:00 am
I have been listening and reading alot of articles regarding this site, and some of the papers written which  I believe misrepresent and assume the views of the buyers on the site. I am currently undertaking some research and I am interested in speaking to buyers from the site

This is ANONYMOUS and no names are taken in the study. I have already spoken to a couple of buyers from the site and these people have set up a skype account which keeps their anonymity. The interview will take approx 30 mins.



Thanks Tim
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: 3gr2k on September 10, 2012, 11:10 am
Bhaaha u high ??

Skyppp?RlLLY.... nope no way, id rotheer make u tolk to bots and than post the log here for fun

Not cool imho
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: wizdom on September 10, 2012, 12:02 pm
I have been listening and reading alot of articles regarding this site, and some of the papers written which  I believe misrepresent and assume the views of the buyers on the site. I am currently undertaking some research and I am interested in speaking to buyers from the site

This is ANONYMOUS and no names are taken in the study. I have already spoken to a couple of buyers from the site and these people have set up a skype account which keeps their anonymity. The interview will take approx 30 mins.

A bit about me my name is Tim and I co-ordinate a Harm reduction Forum www.inef.ie   I can be contacted info@timbingham.ie or please leave a message on here I am also very willing to communicate through here

Thanks Tim

Just PM random members. Or post your q's here.
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: 1defr4ng3 on September 10, 2012, 12:18 pm
Post a link to a page on your website that verifies who you are and that you are doing this project, people here have a lot of... lets call them trust issues.
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: gtgeorgz on September 10, 2012, 01:31 pm
I'll be happy to answer a few questions on PM or tormail.
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: HarmReduction on September 10, 2012, 02:18 pm
@gtgeorgz ....I have just set up tormail - hrireland@tormail.org

For others who would like to see a profile of who I am I am on twitter @inef linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tim-bingham/16/a57/67b which also has links to various research projects I have been involved in ...

If anyone wants anything else just let me know . I know that people for obvious reasons want to stay anonymous, I can also now  be contacted on tormail - hrireland@tormail.org.

Thanks Tim
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: wizdom on September 10, 2012, 03:50 pm
@gtgeorgz ....I have just set up tormail - hrireland@tormail.org

Thanks Tim

Please post results and conclusions when you have completed your work.

Modzi
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: spacecase #2 on September 10, 2012, 04:00 pm
This shit never works....

Post your questions here and if members feel like commenting you'll get your answers.
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: nosaj_thing on September 12, 2012, 02:09 am
yeah i received a message from this guy.. not sure how i feel about it. i'm all for research but there was just something off putting about the whole thing
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: flicky42 on September 12, 2012, 02:16 am
There is literally no reason you can't just PM your questions to users or just post them in this thread and wait for people to respond.

You are either LE or a horrible journalist that knows nothing about the culture he is trying to represent.
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: j3an on September 12, 2012, 10:30 am
I'm glad you decided to use a tormail account, but you made me bolt immediately when you said people have set up a Skype account.

I'm sure your intentions are good, but I politely decline. I am looking forward to your findings though, please let us know when you've collated them.
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: HarmReduction on September 12, 2012, 12:11 pm
Ok in fairness you guys have a point re Skype and I didnt explain this  , the people I spoke to knew my reputation as a researcher and knew other colleagues of mine who could vouch for me.  I would like to get as many people as possible and its important to me that you remain anonymous

 I have a number of publications one of the journal publications was on injecting mephedrone users (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22342322) Others are on my linkedin profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tim-bingham/16/a57/67b

I do not need to know the country your from or your name if there are any questions you dont want to answer just leave them out. Please email or DM  me if your interested or  have any more questions .( hrireland@tormail.org)

Thanks again Tim

Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: HarmReduction on September 16, 2012, 11:22 am
Thanks for eveyone who has DM'd me or emailed me it would be great if I could get 15 more people involved in this. I can DM you the questions of email you via tor , as I mentioned its totally anonymous if you have any questions please dont hesitate to contact me

Thanks
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: fuckoffehbuddy on September 16, 2012, 12:13 pm
fuck this guy all sr needs is another article about it but i have a feeling he ain't a researcher he's a goddamn PIG
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: HarmReduction on September 16, 2012, 12:59 pm
fuckoffehbuddy I am not a copper ....LOL  I am interested in  hearing from SR buyers , there is alot of media coverage about SR and in some of the media articles its been seen as this merky underworld , from those I have been in contact with alot of them are professionals who dont want to deal with street dealers and others who believe that the gear they are getting from SR is better than the street, as a person that has worked in Harm Reduction for years the SR buyers I have spoken to have said that they are reducing harm to themselves , have a look at my previous messages  on this link and your see other research I have been involved in .The questions I can DM to anybody and they can answer the questions they want to answer
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: loniax on September 16, 2012, 01:48 pm
I once had a teacher who worked for the county. She worked for the health department going into squats n shit doing this. So logic only follows you need to find people IRL. I agree with the indian guy
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: HarmReduction on September 16, 2012, 02:04 pm
@loniax I have done alot of work like that before what I am hoping to do here is to get  an overall picture I have a number of people from various areas ,all of whom have different experiences etc the aim is to get an insight into the experiences people have had on SR IRL people will have different experience to people in the UK
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: fuckoffehbuddy on September 17, 2012, 12:00 pm
you know you could stop being such a pussy and order some shit for yourself then you would have a personal experience to write about
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: Christy Nugs on September 17, 2012, 05:43 pm
rofl - i won't be selling anything to this clowny cop!!
really - " researcher "!! lol post ur questions on thread or piss off...:P
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: spacecase #2 on September 17, 2012, 05:49 pm
Harm reduction is for pussies, fucking kids these days...get off my lawn.
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: Mercury31 on September 17, 2012, 08:51 pm
This s#$%^ crazy this site is al about anonymous buying.
Why would u agree with such thing?
The ones that will do this just want the camera fame..
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: fuckoffehbuddy on September 17, 2012, 09:02 pm
yeah no shit mercury i just blasted another faggot ass journalist trying to get people to answer questions when people stop talking to these queers maybe they'll go away
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: Mercury31 on September 17, 2012, 09:23 pm
Maybe we should open a topic about journalist who pretend to be buyers.
To much questions about shipment etc..
Its really a shame to much pretenders on SR..
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: fuckoffehbuddy on September 17, 2012, 09:31 pm
yeah thats a good idea but as long as these fuckers keep giving them shit to write about they'll keep coming one asshole just answered all the questions to the latest one(curiousgent) after i made first reply for no one to answer anymore just a suggestion but some people are chatty cathy's and can't keep there fucking mouth shut about sr keep that shit up and there will be no road 
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: Mercury31 on September 17, 2012, 09:37 pm
There should be an admin that could judge the topic before its online..
If this sh@# is going on im gonna delete my account they hit the trust of a vendor..
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: wizdom on September 19, 2012, 03:22 am
Welcome to the Internet.

If you say a fucking word I will rip off your head and shit down your neck.

I hope you enjoyed your stay.

Please show yourself out.

Modzi
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: doctorGonzo on September 19, 2012, 04:56 am
do you guys remember the journalist that felt he couldn't report on something unless he had directly experienced it for himself. (getting his ass beat by some Hell's Angels comes directly to my mind)
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: fuckoffehbuddy on September 19, 2012, 01:27 pm
If you say a fucking word I will rip off your head and shit down your neck.
Modzi

thats funny as hell
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: OzFreelancer on September 19, 2012, 01:31 pm
do you guys remember the journalist that felt he couldn't report on something unless he had directly experienced it for himself. (getting his ass beat by some Hell's Angels comes directly to my mind)

Hunter S Thompson?  I assume it's a rhetorical question given your handle  ::)
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: grahamgreene on September 19, 2012, 07:29 pm
There should be an admin that could judge the topic before its online..
If this sh@# is going on im gonna delete my account they hit the trust of a vendor..

Absolutely not! Such a system has no place in an agorism based marketplace, nor the forums attached to it. Espousing regulation of essentially fascist methodologies, though that may not be what you intended by your suggestion, would be an abhorrent affront to the ideals and principles that Silk Road represents.
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: Mercury31 on September 19, 2012, 08:02 pm
There should be an admin that could judge the topic before its online..
If this sh@# is going on im gonna delete my account they hit the trust of a vendor..

Absolutely not! Such a system has no place in an agorism based marketplace, nor the forums attached to it. Espousing regulation of essentially fascist methodologies, though that may not be what you intended by your suggestion, would be an abhorrent affront to the ideals and principles that Silk Road represents.

Maybe you got a point there but if this journalistic s!@$ keeps going and everybody is gonna tell about it and keep talkin there wont be a SR anymore..Im just a newbie but all this talkin cant be good.
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: quinone on September 19, 2012, 08:26 pm
What's stopping you from posting your questions in this thread?

Why is your questionnaire in a .doc file and not a .txt file as Guru stated?

Are you high?
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: Ahoyhoy on September 20, 2012, 03:50 pm
What's stopping you from posting your questions in this thread?

Why is your questionnaire in a .doc file and not a .txt file as Guru stated?

Are you high?


Yes good point. Let's be transparent. I am all for contributing to research but the participation of members, who go to great lengths to protect their anonymity, should be elicited through very robustly secure means - which Skype 'aint. I think someone needs to do their homework on online security before asking members to participate.
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: chrispi on September 20, 2012, 04:08 pm
why dont you go to clinics to get reports about usage of bath salts or whatever. everyone here is desperately trying to keep this beautiful thing rollin, without jackasses shining lights on it.....jeez...theres a strictly unspoken protocol which savvy ppl smell right away.  either you is or you aint, you cant be in between.  what youre doing is harmful, and it smells funny. stop all that shit, do a buy yourself and 'research' if u must, dont try to interview happy assholes and fucktards.
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: HarmReduction on September 23, 2012, 09:43 am
Thanks for your comments @chrispi I have been involved in a study on bath salts / mephedrone and as it was pointed out to me its not a great idea to send a .doc which I did not know and fair enough to be pointed out to me @Ahoyhoy so i am sending the questions Via DM of tormail @fuckoffehbuddy this site is being mentioned virtually every day ...SR even has a twitter AC which has 859 followers .

I was at a conference where SR was being mentioned alot, there is more curiosity about SR and therefore its always going to a focus of media attention, it was bloggers and chat forums that first highlighted SR and not journalists or researchers .....see latest article on SR http://www.itnews.com.au/News/315014,police-struggle-with-online-drug-networks.aspx
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: thecrackhead on October 31, 2012, 01:00 pm
I have been listening and reading alot of articles regarding this site, and some of the papers written which  I believe misrepresent and assume the views of the buyers on the site. I am currently undertaking some research and I am interested in speaking to buyers from the site

This is ANONYMOUS and no names are taken in the study. I have already spoken to a couple of buyers from the site and these people have set up a skype account which keeps their anonymity. The interview will take approx 30 mins.



Thanks Tim

Double check the link in your signature! As far as i know it's a phishing trick...
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: HarmReduction on October 31, 2012, 02:40 pm
Which part of the signature .....please let me know asap

Double check the link in your signature! As far as i know it's a phishing trick...
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Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: Tommyhawk on October 31, 2012, 05:00 pm
WARNING WARNING WARNING

It is INCREDIBLY easy to get somebody's IP address through skype which can inturn make it very easy to find their Location and real life credentials.

When I used to play various MMOs, we would get our opponents on skype, get their IP addresses easily, DDOS them to cause them to lag out so we can kill them easily.

Do NOT go on skype with anyone regarding SR or you will surly be found out!!!

It's already easy for the average person to get ISP information based off somebodies IP address.... the things Law Enforcement could do with such information is endless. They can find out everything about you!!

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: thecrackhead on October 31, 2012, 05:40 pm
Which part of the signature .....please let me know asap

Double check the link in your signature! As far as i know it's a phishing trick...

the ".to" it's not supposed to be there mate :)
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: danknugsdun on October 31, 2012, 06:59 pm
To all those participating or wanting to participate in this survey.

1. If you do go ahead with Skype make sure you torify the application with Proxifier.
2. I just hope you are getting some compensation for wasting your time with these yo-yo's.

Dank
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: FartBomber on October 31, 2012, 07:03 pm
Lol, I think you guys are to harsh on the guy. Everyone made valid points here, but if you are a mod/vendor who they would want to bust in the case that this is a sting operation it would be a long shot, since those are the people who are security aware. Now, lets fill out those questionnaire's for our Irish researcher and be nice, we dont want a research paper showing that we are paranoid people (even though it might be good to be paranoid).

-FB
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: grahamgreene on October 31, 2012, 08:45 pm
Double check the link in your signature! As far as i know it's a phishing trick...

Which part of the signature .....please let me know asap

the ".to" it's not supposed to be there mate :)

It's not a "phishing trick", it's onion.to on the clearnet. It simply means that the person is accessing the .onion site through onion.to.
Nor is it "not supposed to be there". It is supposed to be there if the user copied the address from onion.to.
Furthermore, accessing Silk Road via onion.to whilst using TOR will not reveal your IP address, it simply makes things load more slowly as the traffic is routed through more relays. The opposite is a security risk though; accessing Silk Road or any other .onion site through onion.to with your regular browser means that the operators of onion.to can see your IP address, and may be logging it.

- grahamgreene
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: jerseycow on November 01, 2012, 12:40 am
Where are you planning on publishing this thing?
Title: Re: Research - Silk Road buyers
Post by: HarmReduction on November 01, 2012, 09:43 am
ok firstly ... there will be NO skype interviews ...It was an idea but that got blown out of the water fast , this thread was dead for a while so I started another one http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=58514.0

@Grahamgreene I will change this a number of people wanted to know who I am so I added a link which takes the person to more information .

@FartBomber - Lol, I think you guys are to harsh on the guy. Everyone made valid points here, but if you are a mod/vendor who they would want to bust in the case that this is a sting operation it would be a long shot, since those are the people who are security aware. Now, lets fill out those questionnaire's for our Irish researcher and be nice, we dont want a research paper showing that we are paranoid people (even though it might be good to be paranoid). - Thanks mate ;-)

Just to clarify this is a study on peoples experience of buying from SR , further info on other research can be found http://independent.academia.edu/TimBingham

Press / media articles
http://www.herald.ie/news/campaigners-call-for-safety-zones-to-treat-drugged-fans-3172804.html
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/higher-rate-of-drug-deaths-202359.html
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/does-portugal-have-the-solution-to-our-drug-epidemic-2672102.html
http://www.thejournal.ie/author/tim-bingham/


I dont want to keep 2 threads open on the same topic can people please post on  http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=58514.0

Hope this clarifies everything