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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: markgorge2012 on September 04, 2012, 10:13 pm
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Hey everyone,
I never had this problem here before, and have done business via western union. I found Pill popperz had good reviews closed a deal on 500grams of Katemine for about 6000.00
Money was sent via western union, to him and to India. He gave me a first tracking number and i waited and finally checked and it was delivered to California....the adress given to him was in New York. Ive emailed several time for almost 5 days and no response. The shipment was suppose to be shipped in 3 shipments. I do have second tracking number but do know know if it will actually make it to New York.
I have proof of the western union people names and the amounts if anyone needs to verify for this order. I can provide the 1st tracking number that it went to other side of the US. I do not know whats my next step except fly out to Spain and find him. I hope i wasnt scammed because this all has been thourgh western union and have people names...Anyone please help me in resolving this issue we are not talking small change here.
I'm very upset and angry.
If anyone who was working on with PILL popperz from india and sees this post if you are the shipper and had a huge order for US, please contact me via email lazersate@tormail.org. I know he was the middle man just like allot of sellers are here beacause only a small change was sent to Spain the rest went to India. I'm a good buyer and very honest.
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I also understand that allot comes from India when it comes to K, so yes the tracking numbers could have been confused or so. But not responding to emails and seen that he has been seen on SR just aggravating. If a mistake has happened, and especially when 100% reship promise was given to me there is no reason to ingnore any msges. If the wrong tracking has been given to him i understand that. If the 1st shipment was actually not mine i understand that. Ill have to see where the 2nd tracking number will be delivered. I should know by friday if not early next week.
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Hey everyone,
I never had this problem here before, and have done business via western union. I found Pill popperz had good reviews closed a deal on 500grams of Katemine for about 6000.00
Money was sent via western union, to him and to India. He gave me a first tracking number and i waited and finally checked and it was delivered to California....the adress given to him was in New York. Ive emailed several time for almost 5 days and no response. The shipment was suppose to be shipped in 3 shipments. I do have second tracking number but do know know if it will actually make it to New York.
I have proof of the western union people names and the amounts if anyone needs to verify for this order. I can provide the 1st tracking number that it went to other side of the US. I do not know whats my next step except fly out to Spain and find him. I hope i wasnt scammed because this all has been thourgh western union and have people names...Anyone please help me in resolving this issue we are not talking small change here.
I'm very upset and angry.
If anyone who was working on with PILL popperz from india and sees this post if you are the shipper and had a huge order for US, please contact me via email lazersate@tormail.org. I know he was the middle man just like allot of sellers are here beacause only a small change was sent to Spain the rest went to India. I'm a good buyer and very honest.
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No the K is not in spain, it was shipping from India, only 300usd was sent to spain, obviously PILL popperz (seller) , the rest as sent to India. I do have his name, but will not release at this time.
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i dont believe you for one reason. your account is new. you have no credibility whatsoever. pill popperz has obvious credibility. how do we know your not just another vendor who is competition of pill popperz? if you did get scammed than i am truly sorry. but dont just come here with a brand new account, no credibility and no proof. than you throw accusations out about a seemingly good vendor? sorry, me and the community dont believe you unless you have proof.
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^^ what he said :)
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i dont believe you for one reason. your account is new. you have no credibility whatsoever. pill popperz has obvious credibility. how do we know your not just another vendor who is competition of pill popperz? if you did get scammed than i am truly sorry. but dont just come here with a brand new account, no credibility and no proof. than you throw accusations out about a seemingly good vendor? sorry, me and the community dont believe you unless you have proof.
If his original post is accurate, he has been trying for several days to clear this up with Pill Popperz. Seeing as how he has not yet received a response, what exactly would you suggest he do? I've seen lots of people report scams, only to get flamed by loyal customers who are convinced that Vendor X would NEVER do such a thing. Then a few weeks later they wind up getting burned when their favorite totally honest vendor fucks them over -- only to rinse, lather and repeat. (The name "tony76" ring any bells?)
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what proof you want?
whats a forum account account has anything to do with being new? I dont need to post anything, just read. Thats exectly why i bought from him, he had good reviews. You want me to release the people names, and each dollar amount that was sent. To be that just being foolish and can get people in trouble.
I dont sell on SR nor do i need to, i have poeple here that need it. I did not come here to get attacked but ask for help in resolving this issue.
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Maybe he has some problems which is understandable and will give full apology to him and delete this whole thread. Maybe his shipper is extremely busy, i do not know. Maybe if he sees this post he'll try little more to resolve this issue.
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i dont believe you for one reason. your account is new. you have no credibility whatsoever. pill popperz has obvious credibility. how do we know your not just another vendor who is competition of pill popperz? if you did get scammed than i am truly sorry. but dont just come here with a brand new account, no credibility and no proof. than you throw accusations out about a seemingly good vendor? sorry, me and the community dont believe you unless you have proof.
If his original post is accurate, he has been trying for several days to clear this up with Pill Popperz. Seeing as how he has not yet received a response, what exactly would you suggest he do? I've seen lots of people report scams, only to get flamed by loyal customers who are convinced that Vendor X would NEVER do such a thing. Then a few weeks later they wind up getting burned when their favorite totally honest vendor fucks them over -- only to rinse, lather and repeat. (The name "tony76" ring any bells?)
Thank you for understanding
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to clarify my original post this sentence
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If anyone who was working on with PILL popperz from india and sees this post if you are the shipper and had a huge order for US, please contact me via email lazersate@tormail.org. I know he was the middle man just like allot of sellers are here beacause only a small change was sent to Spain the rest went to India. I'm a good buyer and very honest."
I can provide the intials of the senders names & recievers initial. and the amounts sent. I will also provide intials of the recipent. You can send msg to this board.
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i dont believe you for one reason. your account is new. you have no credibility whatsoever. pill popperz has obvious credibility. how do we know your not just another vendor who is competition of pill popperz? if you did get scammed than i am truly sorry. but dont just come here with a brand new account, no credibility and no proof. than you throw accusations out about a seemingly good vendor? sorry, me and the community dont believe you unless you have proof.
If his original post is accurate, he has been trying for several days to clear this up with Pill Popperz. Seeing as how he has not yet received a response, what exactly would you suggest he do? I've seen lots of people report scams, only to get flamed by loyal customers who are convinced that Vendor X would NEVER do such a thing. Then a few weeks later they wind up getting burned when their favorite totally honest vendor fucks them over -- only to rinse, lather and repeat. (The name "tony76" ring any bells?)
I am in no way trying to discredit what he said and i would never flame somebody for reporting a scam, all im trying to say is that im skeptical. just like im skeptical about things such as "DrNyx arrested" and many other stories. all im trying to point out is to use your brain and come to your own conclusion. like i said OP, im sorry if you got burned. but is this a throwaway account, or do you have an account you normally use here on the forums?
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I sent this link to Pill Popperz on silk road with this link to this thread. He can explain him self and see what he has to say. Every time i check his profile its says was last seen: today
I can see hes your favorite and allot of others. But what would you do? Youd do the same thing post publicly to get a solution. So dont give me your nonsense. Once I get his reply either personally like we have been talking so be it, i will let everyone know and delete after problem has been solved. If it does not i will copy and paste the entire email. And remove my name of it ONLY.
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No hes not my favorite at all, he has no products im very fond of :P but yes i would do the same. everyone on the forums just has their guards up now though with all the shenanigans that have been going on here in the last month or two :P
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ok you can keep your guard up and its understandable, he has this link to this thread i emailed him one more time to SR and hit tormail account. Hes on everyday based on SR last seen status. So he has no reason not to reply. If there supply issues or what not, i need to know, thats allot of money, if it will take a little longer fine at least i know whats going. If that second tracking number arrives to me, i will consider that to be the 1st shipment and we can go from there. There is no reason to avoid anyone with that kind of money and business. I do not want take further action and get people in trouble, because who knows what agency watching these threads. Do you understand why im on here now!
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You did a deal outside SR using WU.
Why is this being posted on forums related to Silk Road deals ?
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because im not the only one that does it this way...in matter fact i dont see any rules on SR that says so..they give advise as recommendation.. and for people that do business both ways should know that and should be aware of that.. once trust is built theres a line where you have enough trust to avoid bitcoins and expedite the process of business.
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i know BTC and SR isnt the quickest way to do business.
but now your exposing this vendor doing side deals and risking his selling ability on SR if mods decide he is circumventing the rules and doing WU deals with customers on here.
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risking? how about me risking 6,000.00 or some other seller that cant do bitcoins and can only do WU? there side deals all the time for orders like these. you built that trust.. i know circumstances happens. no reason to avoid buyers emails.
This wouldnt have gone this way, all it takes is to reply if something was going on, i understand shit happens. I get my solutions this whole thing comes off. If he dont reply its obvious.
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still no reply, was last seen on today
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Sorry to hear this. :( I may be new to the forums (posting), but it's always been preached to use bitcoins and escrow for your security and that of the seller. Also have you seen the business PP does? $6,000 USD while a lot, is nothing compared to their overall income on SR alone. Just saying -- live & learn. Best of luck!
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i know BTC and SR isnt the quickest way to do business.
but now your exposing this vendor doing side deals and risking his selling ability on SR if mods decide he is circumventing the rules and doing WU deals with customers on here.
That sounds like Pill Popperz' problem, not the OPs. If Pill Popperz is concerned with keeping his account, perhaps he should take care of the issue.
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Sorry to hear this. :( I may be new to the forums (posting), but it's always been preached to use bitcoins and escrow for your security and that of the seller. Also have you seen the business PP does? $6,000 USD while a lot, is nothing compared to their overall income on SR alone. Just saying -- live & learn. Best of luck!
Yes i have seen the business he does and thats why i went with him. He offered 100% money back re-ship, once again no reason to avoid the emails or SR msges. If hes making that kind of money, god bless him, but lets screw around with a buyer that would drop thousands per order, and in one year 100k, come on really?
It funny theres another user on his feedback that states from 16hours ago.
"Item not received yet, but as I trust the seller, I am finalizing before I get an auto-finalize. Will update once item is received."
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Good luck mark george, be very very loud do not rest on this issue. Post 100 threads if you have to, PM all his customers pay them 1 btc to leave bad feedback on his sr profile till you get what's owed
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I'm with the OP here, we've gained too much complacency in trust when you should always have your guard up for for any vendor. Many people got burned by Trojan because (so far as we know) he was arrested. But they all got burned because they FE 'for a trusted vendor'. I bought from him for this very reason, he had a good track record, but I would never FE. I went to resolution, gave him a 7 day extension, SR support then gave him 2 day's to respond which he didn't and then returned my money to me. That's why SR is here and escrow exists.
Anyways, you shouldn't have used WU and expect a tonne of help here, I understand your reasoning for why you did, but many aren't going to give you any sympathy for it.
Nevertheless you went about it the right way, PP hasn't been responding so you made a thread (who cares if you have 0 posts, some people just use SR and not the forums) and SUPPOSEDLY (though i'm sure he has the link now) gave PP a link to this thread to reply. If he doesn't reply to you or this thread, and there's 6000 hanging in the balance ... I can't think of any other explanation then you were selectively scammed.
You should contact SR support about your concern over this issue on SR as well. They likely won't be able to do much for you since you did this through WU and so SR isn't even involved, but it's worth a try.
Luck to both the op and PP in sorting this out.
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I'm with the OP here, we've gained too much complacency in trust when you should always have your guard up for for any vendor. Many people got burned by Trojan because (so far as we know) he was arrested. But they all got burned because they FE 'for a trusted vendor'. I bought from him for this very reason, he had a good track record, but I would never FE. I went to resolution, gave him a 7 day extension, SR support then gave him 2 day's to respond which he didn't and then returned my money to me. That's why SR is here and escrow exists.
Anyways, you shouldn't have used WU and expect a tonne of help here, I understand your reasoning for why you did, but many aren't going to give you any sympathy for it.
Nevertheless you went about it the right way, PP hasn't been responding so you made a thread (who cares if you have 0 posts, some people just use SR and not the forums) and SUPPOSEDLY (though i'm sure he has the link now) gave PP a link to this thread to reply. If he doesn't reply to you or this thread, and there's 6000 hanging in the balance ... I can't think of any other explanation then you were selectively scammed.
You should contact SR support about your concern over this issue on SR as well. They likely won't be able to do much for you since you did this through WU and so SR isn't even involved, but it's worth a try.
Luck to both the op and PP in sorting this out.
Agree, PP could easily dispute OPs claims were they not true. In my opinion PP is guilty until proven innocent, or at least until he defends himself with some sort of excuse
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Correct.
If it is seized, there wont be an update past " Processed Through Sort Facility XXXXXXXXXX ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS) "
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still no reply. i will give my lings to SR admin they can log in and read all the email back and forth...
on another hand the 1st tracking number was given to me read this
If the item was seized it wouldnt go past NY? is that correct?
Dude, it's very unwise of you to post this specific tracking info out in the open like this. There's a good chance you just gave LE enough info to isolate the exact package which may have been accidentally rerouted to CA.
That also may be another customers tracking info and you have totally screwed them. Not smart, not cool
Please delete the info, and poster above me please remove from your quote
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i remove my post, but i doubt they can isolate the package based on that info. I aint arguing that.
spacecase #2 please remove that, i dont care if you dont, i'm not trying to start, we are here to have fun, and get PP to respond. before i go to SR
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I removed it only because I'm in a generous mood today.
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/1615f9459a
=======================COMMUNICATION======================
Message me through SR internal mail system. I check my SR inbox two times a day in morning and night (US eastern time). I will reply to all messages within 12 hours.
communication policy easter time, same as me, no reason not to reply.
waiting to see the second tracking number where it ends up.
im keeping this msg on top. this is bullshit PP
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PILL popperz all you have to do is reply and work out something with me. This whole post will be deleted. Im an easy person to work with, and can undestand problems that arise. In my mind as of now i feel betreayed and scammed, and what you dont understand and not care is that i will release the names where i sent the money to, becasue to me it feels like all of you was invloved in this transaction.
obviosuly you are making money, and people that supply you trust you to sell their shit and never become a problem. Look at the big picture here. >:(
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Can we get some honorable former and or current customers of PP to change their feedback to a 1/5 till he responds to markgeorge?
I have an offer to 5 of PPs customers as I sympathize with markgeorg: I will give you 1/5th of a bitcoin to change your feedback to 1/5 till PP makes good on this situation. Easy money for a worthy cause.
Markgeorge seems like a nice and honest guy.
Let's help him, if you were in his situation you would want help, how about we pull together for once and nip a scam in the bud or help out a victim before the point of no return.
LET"S DO IT, WE CAN DO IT,WE WILL DO IT, HOPE AND CHANGE.
If I had a son he would be like markgeorge
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Having people change their legitimate feedbacks they left for the service THEY received ? Thats not right.
If their experience with Pillpopperz was a 5/5, then it remains a 5/5 even if the transaction with markgeorges allegedly didnt go right.
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Having people change their legitimate feedbacks they left for the service THEY received ? Thats not right.
If their experience with Pillpopperz was a 5/5, then it remains a 5/5 even if the transaction with markgeorges allegedly didnt go right.
I respectfully disagree, anything goes in a situation like this imo. $6000 is not a darn joke and I'm pissed that PP is tarnishing SRs name and causing a great deal of harm to markgeorge.
Changing feedback is only a means to #1 get PPs attention and #2 get potential PP customers to be aware of this massive possible scam and protect themselves from suffering a similar fate.
Feedback can be switched back when/if this is resolved.
My offer still stands.
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Where is SR admin in situations like this? It is a shame they do not get involved while people are being scammed. Who knows how may more victims PP may claim when just a little intervention could change things around.
I read a report saying the admins make $6000 per day in fees,one would think they would take prevention of scams and response time more seriously.
Boss Hogg was banned for being a security risk, or better yet for badmouthing SR admin. I informed them of his new vendor account and so far nothing has been done. Very sad,losing faith in this place. Hoping SR admin steps in to help poor markgeorge regardless of whether they received no fees from this scamjob, at the very least tiny PP needs to be banned before he dicks anyone else. Maybe the fact that tiny PP tried to avoid paying them their fees will catch SR admin attention, seems money is all they care about sadly.
Also I am not markgeorge in case my passion makes it seem that way to anyone. I've been accused of being 3 people so far on this account. Maybe I'm just a nice person and care that markgeorge is in a really bad place and needs our help? I was scammed $120 a month ago so I can relate
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SR admin would get involved if this was an SR deal.
Sending someone WU off the site isnt their concern, nor under their jurisdiction really.
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Hey everyone,
I never had this problem here before, and have done business via western union. I found Pill popperz had good reviews closed a deal on 500grams of Katemine for about 6000.00
Money was sent via western union, to him and to India. He gave me a first tracking number and i waited and finally checked and it was delivered to California....the adress given to him was in New York. Ive emailed several time for almost 5 days and no response. The shipment was suppose to be shipped in 3 shipments. I do have second tracking number but do know know if it will actually make it to New York.
I have proof of the western union people names and the amounts if anyone needs to verify for this order. I can provide the 1st tracking number that it went to other side of the US. I do not know whats my next step except fly out to Spain and find him. I hope i wasnt scammed because this all has been thourgh western union and have people names...Anyone please help me in resolving this issue we are not talking small change here.
I'm very upset and angry.
If anyone who was working on with PILL popperz from india and sees this post if you are the shipper and had a huge order for US, please contact me via email lazersate@tormail.org. I know he was the middle man just like allot of sellers are here beacause only a small change was sent to Spain the rest went to India. I'm a good buyer and very honest.
it just isn't that hard to get a fake ID and do a WU or MG... >_> (i mean hell.. you can buy them on SR if i do remember correctly.. or just go to the hackbb forums.)
:x
/thumbs
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SR admin would get involved if this was an SR deal.
Sending someone WU off the site isnt their concern, nor under their jurisdiction really.
Technically it is their concern because they expressly forbid vendors to sell outside escrow yet it appears tiny PP has violated that rule with markgeorge.
Besides, there are countless cases of SR admins sitting on their hands while scammers are allowed to sacam for weeks, months yet they do nothing as they are still collecting fees from it. Or are just too lazy and don't give a shit about their users well being.
Markgeorge deserves our help and SR admin help in this situatioon, he does not deserve to be scammed just because he was told to use western union by PP. It is PP who should be punished and I will do my best to see he is until this is addressed.
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Markgeorges though was an agreeable party ( in fact from his statements he preferred ) outside SR deals.
So when he does an outside deal, with no SR footprint .. then how can SR admin be responsible for policing it ?
As you say, they are slow to react to on SR deals ... good luck getting them to handle issues that occur outside SR without a SR footprint ( listing for $6000 in this case )
SR offers a marketplace for deals ... they get paid to oversee the sales. In this case PP and Markgeorges circumvented those fees, so why is it up to SR to get involved ?
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like i said before.
IF IT IS NOT IN ESCROW YOU ARE FUCKED.
/thumbs
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I have no dog in this fight .. if PP did this, fuck him.
But SR in its spirit is for in escrow deals done through the site. ALLLLLL the scams and stuff happen when guys go FE or off the site.
Its like beating a dead horse telling people sometimes.
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I have no dog in this fight .. if PP did this, fuck him.
But SR in its spirit is for in escrow deals done through the site. ALLLLLL the scams and stuff happen when guys go FE or off the site.
Its like beating a dead horse telling people sometimes.
yah.
i can't say it enough, STAY IN ESCROW.
but i am about to do a MP transaction and hopefully it doesn't turn into a scam. :P
gonna get some roxy30's from WILDBOY211.
anyone done business with them before?
/thumbs
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business sometimes gets to the point that BTC and what not arent feasible. and in instances like that, asking for oversight from the SR admins is unreasonable because they arent involved in the deal and its none of their business frankly. you make a deal with a vendor and decide to step off of SR, its at your own risks.
does pillpopperz ever frequent the forums ? does he know this thread is open ?
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That's what you get for not staying in escrow like YOU'RE MEANT TO ON SR
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business sometimes gets to the point that BTC and what not arent feasible. and in instances like that, asking for oversight from the SR admins is unreasonable because they arent involved in the deal and its none of their business frankly. you make a deal with a vendor and decide to step off of SR, its at your own risks.
does pillpopperz ever frequent the forums ? does he know this thread is open ?
exactly.
that's like buying something at Walmart... but getting it directly from an employee.
(if that item is defected... you think Walmart is going to refund it?)
/thumbs
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PP is a risk to all SR users not just people buying OOE and I will be proven correct assuming markgeorge, is telling the truth. Once a scammer, always a scammer. More unnecessary, preventable suffering is on the way. With admin making 6,000 or more daily I'd say it's a reasonable expectation for them to keep an eye on and take action against confirmed and potential scammers so as to prevent loss and suffering to SR users.
I can think of countless occasions where just a tiny bit of due diligence would have prevented a lot of suffering, it seems scammers are given free reign for at least a few days on average and even weeks and months in some cases before any action is taken.
Hoping for the best, however when there are no consequences to scamming on here I am not necessarily confident. It seems not only scammers but SR admin are given a free pass on here. I've said my peace
SDLS
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business sometimes gets to the point that BTC and what not arent feasible. and in instances like that, asking for oversight from the SR admins is unreasonable because they arent involved in the deal and its none of their business frankly. you make a deal with a vendor and decide to step off of SR, its at your own risks.
does pillpopperz ever frequent the forums ? does he know this thread is open ?
yes i emailed him on SR about this thread, i asked to reply before its gets ugly, all msges are ignored
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superduperlemonscooper Thank you for understanding.
If everyone worked together and saw a huge potential scam would maybe slow down the scamming. I truly did not know you couldnt make side deal outside SR, yes i know the risk, there was no listings at the time of purchase for 500gr, so i went to dealers that was selling Katemine and asked for pricing on 500grams. I chose PP based on his evaluation from people.
His 100% feedback gave me hope just like it would to other people. I'm still emailing him and being as nice as i can to get him to give a solution. His resend policy or money back 100% is not whats happening here. To be honest i didnt even know this forum existed till i started searching around how to get help. Theres allot of people that probably dont know this forum exists, and could be getting screwed around. I'm very very computer savy.
I ask if people that read this send a msg to PP and see if he responds, his status is as of current that he was seen today.
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i have submitted a ticket to SR support.
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Can we get some honorable former and or current customers of PP to change their feedback to a 1/5 till he responds to markgeorge?
I have ordered from him before, and all was fine - considering the distance the order arrived in a timely fashion and the product was exactly as described.
A few days ago i have placed another order with him, and if that works out equally well i will not hesitate to give 5 star feedback again.
Honestly i do not see the problem with pill popperz at all. Within the SR system he plays by the rules, not even requiring early finalizing from buyers he has never dealt with before. I expect the shipment to be fine and be able to give full credit once it arrives, and have the money in escrow until it does. If for some reason it doesn't arrive and i'm not compensated for it, i'll give negative feedback too.
In my experience so far he has proven to be a reliable vendor, communicative when required and pleasant to deal with. As long as that keeps they way it it/as, i'll not speak badly of him. Even if there have been bad experiences dealing outside of the SR system those are of little concern to me or any other users. He seems to deliver whatever you order within SR and its escrow system, making it fine to order his products through the site.
Making deals outside of the SR system is entirely at your own risk, and should not affect someones reputation on SR. I am truly sorry if you did lose money, but the story remains yours against his with no way to verify what you agreed upon, nor any analysis of what went wrong.
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Making deals outside of the SR system is entirely at your own risk, and should not affect someones reputation on SR. I am truly sorry if you did lose money, but the story remains yours against his with no way to verify what you agreed upon, nor any analysis of what went wrong.
If the OP provided a copy of the WU receipt and the name and identifying information of the person he sent it to, would you consider that verification? Be very careful what you ask for: you (or PillPopperz) might not be happy when you receive it.
Frankly, PillPopperz can solve this very quickly by coming on here and giving us his side of the story. If someone was claiming I had scammed $6k in a WU deal, I'd speak up. Not sure what PillPopperz feels he is gaining by remaining silent.
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this is ridiculous, you made a deal outside of SR, used WU and maybe the package got seized or something, the package was sent as you traced it to wherever. SR should not respond to you, other people have not been scammed staying in Escrow, it just sounds like a seizure and you are pissed about not getting hold of him.
Maybe he has 100s of messages to read through, maybe he doesn't look at the forums? Should have stayed in Escrow once again as then maybe SR would need to step in, until he is scamming people on SR then why would they care?
You can prove tracking numbers all you like but why when its you 2 the deal is between with no thirdparty over seeing it. And releasing names is just plain stupid, surely he has your name to? so if you do I would recommend steering clear of holding on to anything for a while because I am sure your name will be released as well.
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That really sucks to hear, man. Just the other day, I made a deal with SR vendor UN: SRdn666 for ~3 BTC. He wanted FE (though his page mentioned optional). When I said no, deal cancelled, BTC refunded. This is nowhere near $6000, but the point stands - the escrow system is there for a reason. The internet is anonymous, and we do quite a bit to keep it that way. It's up to the sellers and vendors to use the system provided for accountability. Doing a deal outside SR, then coming to SR to complain simply won't gain my sympathy.
I wish you luck with your problem. This is an expensive lesson to learn.
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I wish you luck with your problem. This is an expensive lesson to learn.
I agree insofar as the OP should have stayed in escrow.
However, I'd also ask this question: if PillPopperz is willing to scam someone for $6k if they go out of escrow, what do you suppose he's going to do when he receives a bulk purchase of bunk product? Do you think he's going to do the ethical thing and flush it? Or do you think he's going to sell crap and refuse to acknowledge complainers once they finalize? I've yet to meet someone who is only a little bit of a thieving scumbag: if PillPopperz will rip one person off, he'll rip off anyone else he can.
(Of course, I should also add that we've yet to hear from PillPopperz. He could clear this up easily by coming on here and providing his side of the story. Until he does, the OP appears to have a fairly compelling case that he sent $6k to PillPopperz and got nothing in return).
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I really wouldn't usually repy to threads like this but it has got me a bit frustrated how people are saying SR need to sort this.
TheGrandWizard until he scams somebody on here we won't know but I doubt he will where he stays in the escrow system, if he does then SR can sort it but for now its nothing to do with SR, read my previous reply.
I don't know why but your opinions are really getting to me and I think you are being really stupid (no offence or anything).
Also the packages are tracked, you have tracking number.... maybe a 6k transaction cross border or whatever might get seized once in a while?? its not exactly legal.
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I really wouldn't usually repy to threads like this but it has got me a bit frustrated how people are saying SR need to sort this.
TheGrandWizard until he scams somebody on here we won't know but I doubt he will where he stays in the escrow system, if he does then SR can sort it but for now its nothing to do with SR, read my previous reply.
I don't know why but your opinions are really getting to me and I think you are being really stupid (no offence or anything).
Also the packages are tracked, you have tracking number.... maybe a 6k transaction cross border or whatever might get seized once in a while?? its not exactly legal.
I do apologize that my opinions are getting to you. You're obviously so frustrated that you failed to address this point, which I will place within its own paragraph.
If Pillpopperz will scam somebody for $6k in an out-of-escrow transaction, what makes you think he's going to be any more ethical when he gets a batch of bunk product?
Never mind losing money: we're talking about doing intramuscular injections of chalk or solvent when you think you purchased a steroid. You may feel safe taking that chance. I would hope that others would think differently.
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this is ridiculous, you made a deal outside of SR, used WU and maybe the package got seized or something, the package was sent as you traced it to wherever. SR should not respond to you, other people have not been scammed staying in Escrow, it just sounds like a seizure and you are pissed about not getting hold of him.
Maybe he has 100s of messages to read through, maybe he doesn't look at the forums? Should have stayed in Escrow once again as then maybe SR would need to step in, until he is scamming people on SR then why would they care?
You can prove tracking numbers all you like but why when its you 2 the deal is between with no thirdparty over seeing it. And releasing names is just plain stupid, surely he has your name to? so if you do I would recommend steering clear of holding on to anything for a while because I am sure your name will be released as well.
If the item was seized based on the first tracking number wouldn't be sent and delivered to California when i'm in New York, and even it was seized, he offer a god damn 100% reship policy or money back. I'm not worried about my name, I sent the money using several people names, a trace wont come near me. TRUST THAT
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this is ridiculous, you made a deal outside of SR, used WU and maybe the package got seized or something, the package was sent as you traced it to wherever. SR should not respond to you, other people have not been scammed staying in Escrow, it just sounds like a seizure and you are pissed about not getting hold of him.
Maybe he has 100s of messages to read through, maybe he doesn't look at the forums? Should have stayed in Escrow once again as then maybe SR would need to step in, until he is scamming people on SR then why would they care?
You can prove tracking numbers all you like but why when its you 2 the deal is between with no thirdparty over seeing it. And releasing names is just plain stupid, surely he has your name to? so if you do I would recommend steering clear of holding on to anything for a while because I am sure your name will be released as well.
I understand about the escrow, yes i should have done that. But what would you do if the SR would ever go down and each seller says contact me through email as they state in their policy about me section. Where does that leave people that trust the seller? Where does that leave trust? Who has you back? Does all the buying stops then?
You build trust and you go with it.
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Also the packages are tracked, you have tracking number.... maybe a 6k transaction cross border or whatever might get seized once in a while?? its not exactly legal.
OK so let it get seized, the package was to be split into 3-4 shipments. Where is my other tracking numbers? If it got seized i wouldnt worry about it if he would reply to any of the messages. Like i said i'm easy to work with and understand the problems that can occur.
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I really wouldn't usually repy to threads like this but it has got me a bit frustrated how people are saying SR need to sort this.
TheGrandWizard until he scams somebody on here we won't know but I doubt he will where he stays in the escrow system, if he does then SR can sort it but for now its nothing to do with SR, read my previous reply.
I don't know why but your opinions are really getting to me and I think you are being really stupid (no offence or anything).
Also the packages are tracked, you have tracking number.... maybe a 6k transaction cross border or whatever might get seized once in a while?? its not exactly legal.
I do apologize that my opinions are getting to you. You're obviously so frustrated that you failed to address this point, which I will place within its own paragraph.
If Pillpopperz will scam somebody for $6k in an out-of-escrow transaction, what makes you think he's going to be any more ethical when he gets a batch of bunk product?
Never mind losing money: we're talking about doing intramuscular injections of chalk or solvent when you think you purchased a steroid. You may feel safe taking that chance. I would hope that others would think differently.
I am pretty sure you are missing the point entirely, the product has been sent according to tracking right??
Also why have you jumped straight to oh my god somebody hasn't received their order, next they are going to be sending out bunk poisoning people!?
what the hell thats just ridiculous, test your shit, order from people you trust. If you have lost trust with pillpoppers because his package he sent has been seized or is just being delayed at customs in a WU transaction then dont buy from him.
Any vendor could send out crap and dangerous stuff, just because a order got held up dont mean he is going to try that
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UKdomestic, i think your not understanding, maybe read the beginning of forum(not being a smartass), nothing got stuck in Customs, the first tracking number was delivered in CALIFORNIA, i'm in NEW YORK. Where are my other tracking numbers? They were suppose to be shipped 3 days apart. Its been 3 weeks almost now.
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TheGrandWizard thanks for understanding the problem. My next order was getting a kilo from PP. pffff screw this now.
All he had to do and is reply. Okay the first one got delivered to a different state, ok fine, send my other tracking numbers, let them get here i will take the damn loss. No harm done that.
Trust this i will fly to Spain to solve this issue, I will get the location of Western Union pickup. Whats another 600.00 usd for a round trip ticket.
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Got an SR support reply then are contacting the Seller
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Also why have you jumped straight to oh my god somebody hasn't received their order, next they are going to be sending out bunk poisoning people!?
what the hell thats just ridiculous, test your shit, order from people you trust. If you have lost trust with pillpoppers because his package he sent has been seized or is just being delayed at customs in a WU transaction then dont buy from him.
Any vendor could send out crap and dangerous stuff, just because a order got held up dont mean he is going to try that
So PillPopperz will scam $6,000 from a customer on a Western Union transaction. But if he buys $6k worth of meds that turn out to be garbage, he will do the good and ethical thing and throw them in the trash rather than selling them to recoup his investment. I suppose that makes perfect sense in Bizarro world, but not sure how it applies to this plane of reality.
Sure, any vendor can send out crap and dangerous stuff. But a vendor with a track record of questionable ethics is far MORE likely to do so than someone who has a history of doing the right thing and caring for customers. You may not see that -- or, being a new account who just popped up out of nowhere, you may not be the entirely disinterested observer you claim to be -- but I trust those who have a basic grasp of elementary logic will be able to do so.
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Also why have you jumped straight to oh my god somebody hasn't received their order, next they are going to be sending out bunk poisoning people!?
what the hell thats just ridiculous, test your shit, order from people you trust. If you have lost trust with pillpoppers because his package he sent has been seized or is just being delayed at customs in a WU transaction then dont buy from him.
Any vendor could send out crap and dangerous stuff, just because a order got held up dont mean he is going to try that
So PillPopperz will scam $6,000 from a customer on a Western Union transaction. But if he buys $6k worth of meds that turn out to be garbage, he will do the good and ethical thing and throw them in the trash rather than selling them to recoup his investment. I suppose that makes perfect sense in Bizarro world, but not sure how it applies to this plane of reality.
Sure, any vendor can send out crap and dangerous stuff. But a vendor with a track record of questionable ethics is far MORE likely to do so than someone who has a history of doing the right thing and caring for customers. You may not see that -- or, being a new account who just popped up out of nowhere, you may not be the entirely disinterested observer you claim to be -- but I trust those who have a basic grasp of elementary logic will be able to do so.
lol.
TGWoD.
/thumbs
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So Pill popperz is playing games, finally after SR gota hold of him he says as copy and pasted below. Just to keep everyone updated
markgorge2012 yo i dealt with you. You gave me your email address that listed on your profile. SR has confirmed that they saw that. I want my tracking numbers and my shit or i want my money back. 12 minutes
PILL popperz(100) i cant help you as you did not deal with me 3 hours
markgorge2012 yo bro, i need a reply... SR is waiting for us to resolve this. I gave them my password to SR and tormail.org they are aware of that being your alternate email. What do you want to do 3 hours
markgorge2012 i have allot of money on the line here. i need resolution soon on this. why was the first tracking number you gave me wasnt even mine? 1 day
markgorge2012 well get it fixed, you have outstanding shipments with me. 1 day
PILL popperz(100) i will see whats up with him....i did not talk to him since my last order with him for 100 grams k was bad quality 1 day
markgorge2012 on the other hand, your profile says to email you on alternate email address which shows pillpopperz@tormail.org...I sent you an email. 1 day
markgorge2012 i sent several emails, no reply. I'm emailing him now again 1 day
PILL popperz(100) you will have to email and talk to same person you emailed he is a higher up supplier i source k from. i outsource my orders to him
i just reply here on SR to my customers 1 day
markgorge2012 yo bro, whats going SR support said you should be msging me back. What do you want to do?
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A. Sr admin has nothing to do with this since you did not use SR in the transaction
B. If you throw $6000.00 at nearly anyone on here western union no less they are going to steal it. hell with western union being so easy to track you shouldnt even trust a seller using it.
And dont try to pull the "i'm new i didnt know what i was doing" crap, when people are new to things they dont throw 6K at them. You fucked up big time and it's an expensive lesson but there is noone to blame but yourself here. In the end you not only lost 6k by being stupid you also stole from SR since they didnt make commision. just give it up and move on, seller knows theres nothing you can do so he's not going to give you any money back, it would be way cheaper for him to just buy another account anyway. Sorry for being harsh but as i said there is noone to blame but yourself and i see no reason for going on and on flaunting how stupid you are.
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Anyone using Western Union cannot complain here.
We use bitcoins here and we have something called 'escrow' which means a third party holds the payment until the goods are delivered, something a tracking order would be evidence of.
Play outside of bitcoin and your security is compromised and of course, someone can steal your money with ease because you have basically trusted some guy in India and took his word, Seems kind of dumb to do that.
Sadly many here have been scammed by vendors because they either finalised early (when they could stay in escrow) or they go outside of SR which is something that gets you banned, I think, or hope!
Cops hook people with payments that are easy to track and trace. Scammers hook you also. Bitcoin is the best thing since sliced bread because now we can buy - have the vendor keep tracking and the customer have their escrow.
That 6000 you lost is a life lesson.
I lost 20BTC by finalising early with the coke scammer Tony76. Guy was good though, he fooled a lot of us and we learned a big lesson in that even if a vendor is here for months and always delivers, its possible he or she could turn scammer. I have been guilty of finalising early with sesampino before he left. Lucky he sent to me but I've nto used one of the grams sent so maybe that batch is not so good even though its washed. (lost 200mg waste)
So, dealing withWestern Union? And you want SR to do something? You must be tripping or something. SR advises in the sellers advice to NEVER go outside of SR. Sure, SR makes money with SR in house deals but they offer us something that the streets do not, a civil atmosphere in which to buy or sell drugs.
We have protection here and you chose to basically ignore that and cut a deal with 'some guy in India' using Western Union. The Indian guy wil now be able to make life better for his family which is nice but stealing the $6000 is wrong but so is sending it in the first place and tempting a guy in a poor nation.
I guess his kids are dressed well and fed well thanks to you.
The ketamine is avaliable from many SR vendors not based in India! Many import it here and then its UK to UK using Bitcoin, a drop address and tracking also because its a lot of cash and the more proof of delivery the better.
Western Union deals on SR?
And you want something done about it?
Sure, we will all start a benevolant fund for you. Lets call it 'The Fund for people who never read the advice offered by SR)
;D
PS send us a Western Union, I'll send you kilos of Ketamine hand deliverfed by Vietnamese lady boys.
Western Union? Classic fucking lack of common sense issue here!
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This was a phenomenally stupid idea, sending money via WU. You know why they use the same old formats and bad spelling in Nigerian 619 scams? It weeds out anyone with half a brain. The want the stupidest of the stupid.
Everyone learns lessons like this, it's just sad yours was so expensive. I doubt you'll see that money or gear. But don't think I'm not sympathetic to your situation. Any vendor who pulls shit like that is not someone I'll ever buy off. I'd considered buying from this guy but certainly won't now. Personally, i don't think it's a big jump from a stunt like this to a "FE sale" and disappearing with all the loot
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markgorge2012, this is the issue as it currently stands:
You performed an OOE (Out Of Escrow) off-site (not on Silk Road) transaction. You sent payment to this person via Western Union. You now expect Silk Road Administrators to help you sort out the issue. It is NOT their responsibility to do so.
If you had read the Buyer's Guide (which you actually receive a message about when you open up a new account) you would see that Out Of Escrow transactions are not allowed here. Ignorance of the rules is not an excuse for not following them.
This is a direct quote from the 'Payment' section of the Buyer's Guide (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/buyers_guide):
NOTICE: If your seller instructs you to pay directly, outside of the escrow system, or with any other method than through the site checkout system, you should report it immediately to our support staff via the "contact us" link along with any evidence you can provide. If you do pay your seller directly, there will be no way for us to protect you from fraud.
Silk Road has absolutely no responsibility to you, or to anyone, to chase this up.
You claim you have proof that you sent $6000 to 'PILL popperz'. You do not. You have a Western Union transaction receipt stating that you sent $6000 to Person XYZ. Even if that person's actual name for the purposes of picking up a Western Union transfer was 'PILL popperz', there is no proof that that PILL popperz is the same person selling on Silk Road under the 'PILL popperz' nickname.
You have absolutely NO comeback here, and you have absolutely NO proof that PILL popperz has scammed you. You have proof that you sent a $6000 Western Union transaction to a second party; nothing more. PILL popperz is a vendor with a perfect reputation here and had you indeed placed an order with them, I'm sure you would have been satisfied with the outcome. It seems that you did not place an order with them, or if you did, you did so out of escrow.
Making deals outside of the SR system is entirely at your own risk, and should not affect someones reputation on SR. I am truly sorry if you did lose money, but the story remains yours against his with no way to verify what you agreed upon, nor any analysis of what went wrong.
If the OP provided a copy of the WU receipt and the name and identifying information of the person he sent it to, would you consider that verification? Be very careful what you ask for: you (or PillPopperz) might not be happy when you receive it.
Frankly, PillPopperz can solve this very quickly by coming on here and giving us his side of the story. If someone was claiming I had scammed $6k in a WU deal, I'd speak up. Not sure what PillPopperz feels he is gaining by remaining silent.
TheGrandWizard, in response to your question of whether the OP providing a copy of the WU receipt and the name and identifying information of the person he sent the transfer to would verify the OP's claims, no it would not.
As I stated above, the only proof he has is that he sent $6000 via Western Union to SOMEBODY. There is absolutely no proof that that person is PILL popperz.
PILL popperz has no obligation whatsoever to come here to defend himself from these claims, just as you would have no obligation to defend yourself if I were to start a thread claiming that you had robbed me in the street because the guy that robbed me was wearing a jacket with "TheGrandWizard" written on it. It would be ludicrous to think that you had an obligation to defend yourself against a story for which I have no proof. You would be free to defend yourself from that claim, of course, but there would be no obligation on you to do so.
As for:
However, I'd also ask this question: if PillPopperz is willing to scam someone for $6k if they go out of escrow, what do you suppose he's going to do when he receives a bulk purchase of bunk product? Do you think he's going to do the ethical thing and flush it? Or do you think he's going to sell crap and refuse to acknowledge complainers once they finalize? I've yet to meet someone who is only a little bit of a thieving scumbag: if PillPopperz will rip one person off, he'll rip off anyone else he can.
(Of course, I should also add that we've yet to hear from PillPopperz. He could clear this up easily by coming on here and providing his side of the story. Until he does, the OP appears to have a fairly compelling case that he sent $6k to PillPopperz and got nothing in return).
There is no proof whatsoever that PILL popperz has ripped anyone off, or scammed this person out of $6000. There is also no point in alluding to a completely hypothetical situation concerning 'bunk product', as that has not happened and there is no indication that it will happen. It's a possibility of course, but judging from PILL popperz's reputation, an improbability.
People are making assumptions based on others claims of being scammed - there is no proof that that has happened, therefore it is entirely unreasonable to label PILL popperz as a less than reputable member of this community base on the accusations of one person with no proof.
The OP has posted "message logs" which could easily have been faked by typing in the responses he wanted before posting it to the thread, and is now saying that SR admins are involved when that is impossible. PILL popperz has not scammed anyone through SR so it is out of their remit. They may look into this one claim of an off-site transaction, but I doubt it given the flimsy evidence presented by the OP.
Furthermore, the OP claims to have given his password to his SR account and his personal Tormail account to an SR admin. The security concerns of doing so, along with the security concerns of supposedly buying ketamine via Western Union lead me to believe that this person, if not outright lying, is incredibly naive and perhaps of low intelligence hence it is likely that they are easily led, and / or easily scammed by anyone claiming to be PillPopperz.
Regardless of the unlikely event that the OP did get scammed by SR's PILL popperz, if he did, he did so of his own accord and it has no bearing on PILL popperz business on Silk Road. He states that sometimes he can't wait for Bitcoin etc.; why not? He'd rather send a Western Union transfer to a stranger for a large amount of money in the hopes that the stranger will hold up their end of the bargain?! Does that not strike you all as being very odd?
If I want Bitcoin I can get my account credited within 2 hours - there's nothing stopping the OP from using a system similar to the one I use.
I call shenanigans on this entire situation, and will continue to do so until the OP can provide solid evidence that PILL popperz has scammed him.
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people avoiding sr fees on purpose then crying coz they got scammed and expect sr to help u couldnt make it up ,
going round the feees which arnt even that high are they when u get to 1000s like 3% ish and western u is like 10% ish why take such a stupid risk that costs more
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NOTIFYING PEOPLE OF IF YOU GET A NAME TO SEND ANYTHING WITH THE NAMES BELOW YOU WILL BE SCAMMED
EVERY DAY I WILL FINISH THE LETTER TO THE FULL NAME, TILL I GET MY SHIT
A S
MADRID
SPAIN
P K
DELHI
INDIA
A S
DELHI
INDIA
S K
DELHI
INDIA
FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!
FOR SOMEONE STARTING NEW I GUESS WHEN A SELLER SEES AN OPPORTUNITY THEY WOULD TAKE, NEVER HAD I HAD A PROBLEM DOING WU FOR 5 YEARS, TILL MY GUY RETIRED. HOW YOU THINK BIGGER DEALS GO DOWN, SENDING BITCOINS, PLEASE GET A CLUE.
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Shame on you people saying that's what you get. You know that mother fucker stole his money. Even if he was stupid and trusted or went behind SR fees however small it was, does not mean it's OK to steal
someones hard earned money. The road is for honest trade of items NOT FOR FUCKING EACH OTHER. You all really need to get off these sellers dicks and speak the truth would you like it if someone stole
all your money. markgorge2012 did wrong but really people. To make a mockery of the road is going against what we are trying to do here ...
Fucking Scammers, everyday someone is scammed here. When is enough Enough
Oh and if it wasn't clear fuck you PILL poperrz (give that man back his money you bitch)
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MERE ACCUSATIONS? wtf you talking about, you think ide be on here? and waste my fucking time. Fucking thieves should get fucked. Fuck if im getting fucked hard, wtf do i care if he does or anyone involved in his shit.
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This looks like a tragic scam, but I don't think the community should condone publicly outing people under any circumstances. For one thing, posting info publicly is the same as snitching. If we can read it, LE can read it, so you just snitched. More importantly, this opens up a whole new can of worms. If the community condones public outings as a form of vigilante justice, based on mere accusations of fraud (which are rarely provable), then vendors could decide to blackmail their buyers (most of whom provide real names in their addresses) under the false pretense of a reverse scam.
I don't think we should be going down that road, and that behavior should be shunned.
I agree, it's a line that shouldn't be crossed here. No matter what happened. I am sorry for you getting scammed though mate
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release the names... I'm about to do WU to India. always have done with same person... but need to make sure its not the people you have been scammed by
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Damn guys, I think the guy at least deserves a reply from PP. I work out of escrow all the time (mostly CIM, never WU though), and I know the risks. Now I wouldn't expect SR to do ANYTHING because you're by-passing their system. Nevertheless, I think Mark should post here; if nothing else this will server as a cautionary tale for other users thinking of working with PP outside of escrow.
The fact that PP has failed to even respond to the allegations is suspicious. Especially considering other users, including myself, have linked him this thread via SR main.
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The biggest problem I have with a vendor who is capable of this, is not the fact I think he'll then scam everyone who does it, is the fact the guy was reckless enough to shit where he eats. It's a stupid and short sighted person who pulls a stunt like this and expects it not to cause waves.
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Shame on you people saying that's what you get. You know that mother fucker stole his money. Even if he was stupid and trusted or went behind SR fees however small it was, does not mean it's OK to steal
someones hard earned money. The road is for honest trade of items NOT FOR FUCKING EACH OTHER. You all really need to get off these sellers dicks and speak the truth would you like it if someone stole
all your money. markgorge2012 did wrong but really people. To make a mockery of the road is going against what we are trying to do here ...
Fucking Scammers, everyday someone is scammed here. When is enough Enough
Oh and if it wasn't clear fuck you PILL poperrz (give that man back his money you bitch)
The OP has no proof that PILL popperz scammed him. Read my post on page 5 in it's entirety to see why.
MERE ACCUSATIONS? wtf you talking about, you think ide be on here? and waste my fucking time. Fucking thieves should get fucked. Fuck if im getting fucked hard, wtf do i care if he does or anyone involved in his shit.
Yes, mere accusations. You have no proof. Read my post on page 5 in it's entirety to see why.
Damn guys, I think the guy at least deserves a reply from PP. I work out of escrow all the time (mostly CIM, never WU though), and I know the risks. Now I wouldn't expect SR to do ANYTHING because you're by-passing their system. Nevertheless, I think Mark should post here; if nothing else this will server as a cautionary tale for other users thinking of working with PP outside of escrow.
The fact that PP has failed to even respond to the allegations is suspicious. Especially considering other users, including myself, have linked him this thread via SR main.
PILL popperz is under no obligation to respond to these accusations. I sincerely hope your CIM transactions are taking place somewhere other than SR?
PILL popperz not responding to the accusation of an out of escrow scam is not suspicious in itself; they run a very successful, entirely reputable business on Silk Road. This "markgorge2012" has no reputation, and no history here. If I were PILL popperz, I would likely neglect to respond to this person whether his claims are true or not.
The issue is not a Silk Road issue; the issue is a person sending a Western Union transfer for a large amount of money to a random person with no comeback should any problems arise. It has no place on the Silk Road forums as Out Of Escrow transactions are not allowed on Silk Road, therefore nobody needs to be warned not to do Out Of Escrow transactions with any vendor. The rules are in place to protect the buyer, protect the seller, and earn Silk Road a commission. Why break those rules to save a few dollars?
In the OP's case the cost of sending Western Union transfers would actually be greater than the commission charged by Silk Road. That is why this entire scenario doesn't make sense. He chose to abandon the safety of the escrow system, and pay more for the privilege of doing so?! That doesn't make any sense. ???
The biggest problem I have with a vendor who is capable of this, is not the fact I think he'll then scam everyone who does it, is the fact the guy was reckless enough to shit where he eats. It's a stupid and short sighted person who pulls a stunt like this and expects it not to cause waves.
There is no proof that any of this has taken place; in fact, there is more evidence that it didn't than it did. My post on page 5 explains all of this.
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Lol grahamgreene, we're here to buy drugs, do you really think that we strictly adhere to any rules? Consider how many of forum users are still working with SDM. If you think the majority of bulk buyers are working exclusively in bitcoins you're delusional.
While I'm not putting any stock in Mark's post, the fact that PP hasn't responded to a 6 page thread is indeed suspicious--if PP is indeed the businessman you say he is (I haven't personally worked with him), then I'd think he would quickly come in here to squash this rumor. After all he was sent this link by other potential clients.
Of course this is not a SR issue, I didn't claim it was and if Mark is expecting the SR staff to do anything to resolve it he'll be sorely disappointed.
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Lol grahamgreene, we're here to buy drugs, do you really think that we strictly adhere to any rules? Consider how many of forum users are still working with SDM. If you think the majority of bulk buyers are working exclusively in bitcoins you're delusional.
While I'm not putting any stock in Mark's post, the fact that PP hasn't responded to a 6 page thread is indeed suspicious--if PP is indeed the businessman you say he is (I haven't personally worked with him), then I'd think he would quickly come in here to squash this rumor. After all he was sent this link by other potential clients.
Of course this is not a SR issue, I didn't claim it was and if Mark is expecting the SR staff to do anything to resolve it he'll be sorely disappointed.
There are plenty of people here that buy drugs that do obey the rules. And they are the ones NOT on the forums crying. When you do not follow the SR rules this shit happens.
Your reason that you think PP should come in here and defend himself is crazy. NONE of HIS customers are even in these threads. On top of that what happens in here by some poster claiming something means NOTHING. Just read through this whole thread. The people doing most of the talking are NOT customers. There is no need to squash a rumor when the person starting it has no credibility what so ever.
You yourself say you put no stock n OP's post. So if you don't...why should PP?
He shouldn't.
In fact this whole thread should be locked.
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Yes doing a 6K western union transaction is the stupidest thing ive read on these forums
However stealing 6k should not be condoned by members as even though rules were broken its a dick head move on pill poppers.
Sr admin have nothing to do with it im afraid however will tell pillpopperz use of WU is not allowed
And grahamgreene its kind of hard to understand what he is saying while he has pillpopperz dick in his mouth
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mazzarmazzar lol so true .........
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cindelle, simple answer..,. yes expect to be screwed unless you know the person really well, thats the whole point of escrow.
grahamgreene is 100% right, there is no proof.
I cant understand why people are still going on about this, no proof and nothing to do with SR, go moan about it on a free hosted forum elsewhere away from people who have no interest.
Its not difficult, escrow = every one happy
western union = your own risk, sr wont care and your proof is invalid
In fact everyone is jumping on this bandwagon getting pissed at pillpopperz, has anyone seen what he has done and can prove it happened, even if proved it happened, prove it was pillpopperz??
you could be doing a deal with anyone, only do WU with people you trust r stay in escrow.
grahamgreene also has even more points why go out of escrow when it will cost you more :S
I must be missing something fundamental here because a lot of people on markgeorges side seem like morons and are ignoring all the valid points about this. I think its let call everything a scam week.
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Yes doing a 6K western union transaction is the stupidest thing ive read on these forums
However stealing 6k should not be condoned by members as even though rules were broken its a dick head move on pill poppers.
Sr admin have nothing to do with it im afraid however will tell pillpopperz use of WU is not allowed
And grahamgreene its kind of hard to understand what he is saying while he has pillpopperz dick in his mouth
Who said it is being condoned??? No one. But once again I am not even sure it happened.
And your right SR has nothing to do with this. And they shouldn't. Then again by saying this we are assuming something happened.
The bottom line is YES I know people do stuff out of escrow and side deals. And if you do..and shit happens to you, then dont come in here and cry about it. And we (SR members) should not even care this happened if it did. I agree it sucks for OP but thats the risk you take. And that proves once again how GREAT SR is.
If you use SR as you are told....THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN!!! FACT.
This is a forum for SR. PP is no way should even address this. PP stats are great on SR. So do business on SR. It is really that simple.
Everyone (well a couple) keep trying to make a bigger deal out of this and say "yea but" there is no but...The bottom line is lets assume OP is telling the truth...well then he deserves to get scammed for being so stupid. I don't condone it, I just say that if you do stupid shit, then stupid shit will happen to you. This is a NON SR issue and this thread should be locked.
To the OP....Sorry you got scammed. If you used SR how ALL THE RULES say then this would never have happened.
so is the message we're sending that if you decide to go out of escrow, that you should get and deserve to be screwed, period? and i suppose be glad about it? im not naive enough to think that everyone uses escrow.
Well yes in a nutshell that is exactly the message. Your right not everyone uses it. But if they don't and they get scammed...OH WELL! It is there fault. You don't have to be naive...just be smart and use SR how it is set up to be used. That's why it is here! So this does not happen!!
If everyone followed the rules there would be little to no scamming.
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--RxKing--
Your sig states "I also sell BTC. I DO NOT CHARGE A FEE and I am the fastest service on Silk Road. Less then 60 minutes for you to get your coin from me. I also cover the Western Union fees!That means if you spend $500 you get $500. All information is in listing."
So what rules are you fucking following or any Dealer out there that has this listings, which i can name a handfull. That they will sell BTC for WU.
DO you send the BITCOINS first or do you accept WU first? Which one is? Or Does this open another fucking whole in SR allowing to do that and potentially get scammed. Do we have to trust you based on your feedbaack, like i did with PP.
Or how in god's name do you do this process? I would love to fucking know.
Dont fucking talk if you do the same shit by accepting WU you fucking prick or any fucking dealer out there.
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Lol using Western Union for a $6000 order via SR? I'm sorry is someone trying write some sort of ironic joke?
If the OP did get mugged off then I'm afraid to say you bloody deserve it kid. SR's Escrow system is there for a reason and one of those reasons is that so ridiculous threads like this are started.
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Sorry but it's been said time and again by the Mods here, the Vendors and DPR him/herself - Stay in escrow, if you don't then accept the danger. And now look what has happened when the escrow system is left, the shit has hit the fan.
You can rail against my POV on this all you like poster above but if you leave the system that is designed to protect you from this what do you expect?
Also I don't work on the Road and thus I can't ban vendors from selling so you need to can that one too. If he did scam and there is enough evidence then take it to the Admin's or DPR and they will ban them most likely. So far I can just see a shit storm.
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Sorry but it's been said time and again by the Mods here, the Vendors and DPR him/herself - Stay in escrow, if you don't then accept the danger. And now look what has happened when the escrow system is left, the shit has hit the fan.
You can rail against my POV on this all you like poster above but if you leave the system that is designed to protect you from this what do you expect?
Also I don't work on the Road and thus I can't ban vendors from selling so you need to can that one too. If he did scam and there is enough evidence then take it to the Admin's or DPR and they will ban them most likely. So far I can just see a shit storm.
Motherfucker, you loled and said mark deserved to be scammed. Are you kidding me? The only joke is you. The man just lost 6k, I can't imagine how much he must be hurting. I don't care how many times whoeverthefuck has said to stay in escrow, he does not fucking deserve to be scammed you gutter trash. Shows what kind of character you have. You're an insensitive prick who likely would scam people yourself if it would benefit you.
How do you get the items you sell? Per your signature - how are you going to get your ketamine, are the Indians going to set up a SR account so you can stay in the holy escrow which you worship so? DOUBT IT. I guarantee you do not buy your shit in escrow, you buy it from China and India probably through WU. Even if you don't which I doubt, most vendors do. Therefore you and most vendors here must deserve to be scammed as well, and I hope you do. Let's also not forget the vast majority of vendors will not and do not even have the ability financially to do large transactions in escrow.
I demand you apologize to mark for your comments, that is the only way you can redeem yourself.
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LOL redeem myself? Get real kid. You can demand all you want but like your mother should have taught you, "I want doesn't get:".
And no I don't but for my main product I employ the people who make it so I am a bit above all that and Western Union actually. Then again even if this wasn't the case I most certainly wouldn't be dealing with people I didn't know I couldn't trust so really me getting scammed is actually a moot point I'm afraid. :)
You can call me all the names under the sun but it really doesn't change the fact that if boy don't stay in escrow, then boy better know. End of story and end of discussion. :)
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LOL redeem myself? Get real kid. You can demand all you want but like your mother should have taught you, "I want doesn't get:".
And no I don't but for my main product I employ the people who make it so I am a bit above all that and Western Union actually. Then again even if this wasn't the case I most certainly wouldn't be dealing with people I didn't know I couldn't trust so really me getting scammed is actually a moot point I'm afraid. :)
You can call me all the names under the sun but it really doesn't change the fact that if boy don't stay in escrow, then boy better know. End of story and end of discussion. :)
So you are the exception to the rule basically every other vendor under the sun has to follow which is sending money outside the SR system to get their RCs and ket from China and India to sell here. (Not that I believe you for a second, you would not be selling fucking neon skulls if you had that level of business going) I will be sure to let vendors know they deserve to be scammed for doing so. Whatever the case, based on review your RCs are far from pure , but you surely are are pure, 99.9999% pure unadulterated trash.
My last post for now but I don't care how stupid mark is or you think he is, the man deserves sympathy not condemnation and hate. Maybe you could actually be constructive and try to help him instead of gloating over his huge and painful loss.
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I don't sell Neon Skulls actually, that is Nomad Bloodbath so I think you need to check facts before you start whipping insults. :)
And I couldn't give a flying fuck what you believe or what you think of me. And my RCs are extremely pure actually, do a lab test on them or send them to Ecstasy Data and you'll find that out for yourself. :)
I don't have any hate for Mark, what a ridiculous statement to make. I just have no sympathy with him when he left a system that was designed to protect him then you have to accept the risk and the responsibility that comes with that. If Mark was able to spend $6000 on whatever it was then he's big enough and ugly enough to take on the risk of using insecure payment methods. This isn't the playground, you pick yourself up and brush the dirt off your soldier and if you can't then I'm afraid that's just the dog-eat-dog nature of the drug business. You can't hack that, you shouldn't get in it in the first place.
What makes me laugh is that you can't see what a complete fool you look in this conversation. It's like your a waves of hysteria breaking against rocks of pragmatism.
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LOL redeem myself? Get real kid. You can demand all you want but like your mother should have taught you, "I want doesn't get:".
And no I don't but for my main product I employ the people who make it so I am a bit above all that and Western Union actually. Then again even if this wasn't the case I most certainly wouldn't be dealing with people I didn't know I couldn't trust so really me getting scammed is actually a moot point I'm afraid. :)
You can call me all the names under the sun but it really doesn't change the fact that if boy don't stay in escrow, then boy better know. End of story and end of discussion. :)
So you are the exception to the rule basically every other vendor under the sun has to follow which is sending money outside the SR system to get their RCs and ket from China and India to sell here. (Not that I believe you for a second, you would not be selling fucking neon skulls if you had that level of business going) I will be sure to let vendors know they deserve to be scammed for doing so. Whatever the case, based on review your RCs are far from pure , but you surely are are pure, 99.9999% pure unadulterated trash.
My last post for now but I don't care how stupid mark is or you think he is, the man deserves sympathy not condemnation and hate. Maybe you could actually be constructive and try to help him instead of gloating over his huge and painful loss.
Get the dick out of your ass before you post again, kthxbai!
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Lol using Western Union for a $6000 order via SR? I'm sorry is someone trying write some sort of ironic joke?
If the OP did get mugged off then I'm afraid to say you bloody deserve it kid. SR's Escrow system is there for a reason and one of those reasons is that so ridiculous threads like this are started.
You're a fucking douche. No one deserves to get scammed for any amount of money no matter how they pay or who they buy from, you motherfucking scum. I do harbor ill will toward anyone but if a vendor has to be busted, I hope it will be you for making light of something like this. People have used WU for years with trusted vendors long before the shit road was around, scams sometimes occurred though those vendors were promptly put out of commission unlike here on SR where they are given free reign.
Fuck you and fuck SR admin for not banning this piece of shit pill poppers.
Who the motherfuck cares if this transaction was done out of escrow. The ONLY motherfucking question should be 'Is pill poppers a scammer'? Which appears to blatantly be the case(fuck you graham with you 'there's no proof he's a scammer' bullshit, he is clearly a fucking scammer you sniveling little long winded bottom bitch cunt ) If he is then he should not be allowed to vend PERIOD.
'Omgz it was out of escrow *gasp* so there's NOTHING we can do, we HAVE to allow this scammer to continue vending omgz'
If he is, then fucking ban him, but no SR only cares about getting their fees. Fuck that.
WHAT KIND OF MOTHERFUCKING WEBSITE ALLOWS SCAMMING VENDORS TO CONTINUE VENDING WITH IMPUNITY?
Lastly, god bless you mark, karma will catch up to tiny PP and all these idiot losers who question whether you were scammed, think tiny PP should be able to continue to vend because he scammed you out of escrow instead on inside escrow.
So you sound dumb as shit but I will still reply so that you can read then STFU.
First there is no proof what so ever anything happened..just an accusation. So because some takes 2 min to registrar a screen name then makes a post that he sent 6k by western union to a silk road vendor outside of silk road he should be banned? Do you get the outside of part? Do you get the part where it is just an accusation and no proof what so ever? So lets assume you now understand that( you don't) but keep cursing and motherfucking people it makes you sound so much better.
And just because people have used WU and not had problems and then the ones that did were put out of business...WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THAT!
Yes that is where SR and the fees come in. You see dummy if you use SR and the system that is in place you can't be scammed. Stay in escrow and you will be just fine. That is why SR is so awesome... if you follow the rules you will be just fine. So what Lim is saying or what I am saying since I don't speak for Lim is that if someone was dumb enough to send 6k thru WU like the OLD DAYS before sr then they deserve to get fucked...for being stupid. No one on SR wants to see someone get screwed but since this was not on SR(if it even happened at all) then fuck them.
SR and Lim are not just going to go around and ban someone. If they were they might as well start with you. You bring nothing to the table, your as sharp as a bowling ball and you have no manners.
You say if pp is a scammer is the only question and you being the judge and jury believe he is because of the OP??? Did you happen to read his feedback?
And yes if something is done off of SR and out of escrow you are out of luck. SR does not control the world. You take the chance doing something off of SR and you could be screwed.
I realize you don't understand any of this and just like to make stupid post. But just in case you get sober for a moment and read this you should understand 2 things. You are not that smart. And use SR how it is supposed to be used and you can't get scammed.
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superduperlemonscoor - you are a BOMBOCLART wasssteman.
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SR and Lim are not just going to go around and ban someone. If they were they might as well start with you. You bring nothing to the table, your as sharp as a bowling ball and you have no manners.
This made me actually laugh out loud.
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In meantime of all this argument which is not getting us anywhere. OKAY so I fucked up, so i trusted to much. Thanks for the help from the HERO members, so far the HERO members talked nothing but trash, in reality you all got scammed and dont have the balls to admit. But thats okay. It just shows the care of even your potential customer or client that would spend money. I will make my money back, by coming on here and ripping people off myself by being a seller, because to me you guys are condoning this kind of behavior.
--RxKing--or any vendor that has posted and i checked that sell BTC for WU
Your sig states "I also sell BTC. I DO NOT CHARGE A FEE and I am the fastest service on Silk Road. Less then 60 minutes for you to get your coin from me. I also cover the Western Union fees!That means if you spend $500 you get $500. All information is in listing."
So what rules are you fucking following or any Dealer out there that has this listings, which i can name a handfull. That they will sell BTC for WU.
DO you send the BITCOINS first or do you accept WU first? Which one is? Or Does this open another fucking whole in SR allowing to do that and potentially get scammed. Do we have to trust you based on your feedbaack, like i did with PP.
Or how in god's name do you do this process? I would love to fucking know.
Dont fucking talk if you do the same shit by accepting WU you fucking prick or any fucking dealer out there.
I still would like a reply for the above quote
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RXKing or Vendors that have talked trash.... can i buy BTC from you? i dont see escrow for that?
saying you except wu or mg. which also claim im stupid and deserved to get scammed because i did WU. Any light on that?
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Hero member just means 500+ posts lol. ::)
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Hero member just means 500+ posts lol. ::)
Thanks for the info, learn something new everyday lol
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Lol using Western Union for a $6000 order via SR? I'm sorry is someone trying write some sort of ironic joke?
If the OP did get mugged off then I'm afraid to say you bloody deserve it kid. SR's Escrow system is there for a reason and one of those reasons is that so ridiculous threads like this are started.
You're a fucking douche. No one deserves to get scammed for any amount of money no matter how they pay or who they buy from, you motherfucking scum. I do harbor ill will toward anyone but if a vendor has to be busted, I hope it will be you for making light of something like this. People have used WU for years with trusted vendors long before the shit road was around, scams sometimes occurred though those vendors were promptly put out of commission unlike here on SR where they are given free reign.
Fuck you and fuck SR admin for not banning this piece of shit pill poppers.
Who the motherfuck cares if this transaction was done out of escrow. The ONLY motherfucking question should be 'Is pill poppers a scammer'? Which appears to blatantly be the case(fuck you graham with you 'there's no proof he's a scammer' bullshit, he is clearly a fucking scammer you sniveling little long winded bottom bitch cunt ) If he is then he should not be allowed to vend PERIOD.
'Omgz it was out of escrow *gasp* so there's NOTHING we can do, we HAVE to allow this scammer to continue vending omgz'
If he is, then fucking ban him, but no SR only cares about getting their fees. Fuck that.
WHAT KIND OF MOTHERFUCKING WEBSITE ALLOWS SCAMMING VENDORS TO CONTINUE VENDING WITH IMPUNITY?
Lastly, god bless you mark, karma will catch up to tiny PP and all these idiot losers who question whether you were scammed, think tiny PP should be able to continue to vend because he scammed you out of escrow instead on inside escrow.
So you sound dumb as shit but I will still reply so that you can read then STFU.
First there is no proof what so ever anything happened..just an accusation. So because some takes 2 min to registrar a screen name then makes a post that he sent 6k by western union to a silk road vendor outside of silk road he should be banned? Do you get the outside of part? Do you get the part where it is just an accusation and no proof what so ever? So lets assume you now understand that( you don't) but keep cursing and motherfucking people it makes you sound so much better.
And just because people have used WU and not had problems and then the ones that did were put out of business...WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THAT!
Yes that is where SR and the fees come in. You see dummy if you use SR and the system that is in place you can't be scammed. Stay in escrow and you will be just fine. That is why SR is so awesome... if you follow the rules you will be just fine. So what Lim is saying or what I am saying since I don't speak for Lim is that if someone was dumb enough to send 6k thru WU like the OLD DAYS before sr then they deserve to get fucked...for being stupid. No one on SR wants to see someone get screwed but since this was not on SR(if it even happened at all) then fuck them.
SR and Lim are not just going to go around and ban someone. If they were they might as well start with you. You bring nothing to the table, your as sharp as a bowling ball and you have no manners.
You say if pp is a scammer is the only question and you being the judge and jury believe he is because of the OP??? Did you happen to read his feedback?
And yes if something is done off of SR and out of escrow you are out of luck. SR does not control the world. You take the chance doing something off of SR and you could be screwed.
I realize you don't understand any of this and just like to make stupid post. But just in case you get sober for a moment and read this you should understand 2 things. You are not that smart. And use SR how it is supposed to be used and you can't get scammed.
Agreed. Your customers deserve to be scammed for sending you money out of escrow and #2 because you're a dumb ass.
I am not stupid, I'm frustrated with the seemingly complete lack of scruples and compassion shown by the scummy posters on this website so I lost my cool. Sue me.
I think a girl like me needs to be running the show here at SR, things would be far more efficient and scams far less frequent.
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Hero member just means 500+ posts lol. ::)
Thanks for the info, learn something new everyday lol
On a serious note, if you did get ripped off just consider it a life lesson and brush the dirt off your shoulders and move on mate. Money is just paper, you can always make more of it and start again. Takes a real man to be able to take a cheap shot and get back up again. I suggest if you were robbed you take all evidence to the Admins and SR support.
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I think a girl like me needs to be running the show here at SR, things would be far more efficient and scams far less frequent.
Aha....this explains a lot.
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I think a girl like me needs to be running the show here at SR, things would be far more efficient and scams far less frequent.
Aha....this explains a lot.
Women (better-known as whores, bitches if they're dysfunctional) are the dumb, inferior gender pieces of flesh around the vagina that don't invent or discover things, save for perhaps Original Sin and sandwiches. It has been scientifically proven that women have smaller brains than men, and as such women are to be treated like sex-objects as porn has reminded us. They exist only to fulfill four functions: cooking, cleaning, fucking, and looking after babby.
It must also be remembered the bible tells us that women are not only the inferior gender, but they are the evil, hateful gender as well. According to the Malleus Maleficarum, there are many procedures one can use to test the evilness of women, including setting them on fire and pushing them off steep cliffs; should they survive, they are witches.
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In meantime of all this argument which is not getting us anywhere. OKAY so I fucked up, so i trusted to much. Thanks for the help from the HERO members, so far the HERO members talked nothing but trash, in reality you all got scammed and dont have the balls to admit. But thats okay. It just shows the care of even your potential customer or client that would spend money. I will make my money back, by coming on here and ripping people off myself by being a seller, because to me you guys are condoning this kind of behavior.
--RxKing--or any vendor that has posted and i checked that sell BTC for WU
Your sig states "I also sell BTC. I DO NOT CHARGE A FEE and I am the fastest service on Silk Road. Less then 60 minutes for you to get your coin from me. I also cover the Western Union fees!That means if you spend $500 you get $500. All information is in listing."
So what rules are you fucking following or any Dealer out there that has this listings, which i can name a handfull. That they will sell BTC for WU.
DO you send the BITCOINS first or do you accept WU first? Which one is? Or Does this open another fucking whole in SR allowing to do that and potentially get scammed. Do we have to trust you based on your feedbaack, like i did with PP.
Or how in god's name do you do this process? I would love to fucking know.
Dont fucking talk if you do the same shit by accepting WU you fucking prick or any fucking dealer out there.
I still would like a reply for the above quote
No Hero member or any member can help you. You need to help yourself. All a hero is is a person that post 500 messages or more. That's it. I mean what do you really think we should do for you? There is nothing we can do. We are actually busy taking care of our REAL customers. Hence the feedback I/we have.
What do you mean we all got scammed??? You need to sober up.
If I were to believe you ( i don't..but I really don't care either way) then I would tell you that you are an idiot. As you know. it is not about trust. It is about being smart! You were not smart. You have provided no proof what so ever. And I am sure your the kid at school that went to the hall monitor...but what do you think ANY of us can do??
You did a deal outside of SR. you got burned. End of story.
You want sympathy..your in the wrong place. If you were smart(your not) you should only have done this deal through SR. Get a custom listing and so forth.
It's great you think you are going to get your money back by scamming on SR. Just saying it shows how lame you are and how untrue your OP really was.
As for me read my feedback. And yea thats how it works.. you read the feedback and you do a deal THROUGH SILK ROAD. Not by sending money to fucking India you idiot. Get BTC, get a custom listing, pay with BTC, finalize AFTER you get your product.
IT IS THAT FUCKING EASY YOU MORON.
So quit posting in here crying for your dumb choices. If we are even to believe you since you have shown nothing and done even less.
You do have some trolls that feel bad for you. I wonder how they feel when you say you are going to try and scam SR. Please try and scam me. YOU cant do it. The only people you will scam are idiots like yourself that are dumb enough to deal off of SR and send money to INDIA!
You belong at Topix..and take your troll friends with you.
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I think a girl like me needs to be running the show here at SR, things would be far more efficient and scams far less frequent.
Aha....this explains a lot.
Women (better-known as whores, bitches if they're dysfunctional) are the dumb, inferior gender pieces of flesh around the vagina that don't invent or discover things, save for perhaps Original Sin and sandwiches. It has been scientifically proven that women have smaller brains than men, and as such women are to be treated like sex-objects as porn has reminded us. They exist only to fulfill four functions: cooking, cleaning, fucking, and looking after babby.
It must also be remembered the bible tells us that women are not only the inferior gender, but they are the evil, hateful gender as well. According to the Malleus Maleficarum, there are many procedures one can use to test the evilness of women, including setting them on fire and pushing them off steep cliffs; should they survive, they are witches.
Why don't you tell your mother this? Have fun being forever single
I think a girl like me needs to be running the show here at SR, things would be far more efficient and scams far less frequent.
Aha....this explains a lot.
Sociopathic and misogynist, touching.
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I think a girl like me needs to be running the show here at SR, things would be far more efficient and scams far less frequent.
Aha....this explains a lot.
Women (better-known as whores, bitches if they're dysfunctional) are the dumb, inferior gender pieces of flesh around the vagina that don't invent or discover things, save for perhaps Original Sin and sandwiches. It has been scientifically proven that women have smaller brains than men, and as such women are to be treated like sex-objects as porn has reminded us. They exist only to fulfill four functions: cooking, cleaning, fucking, and looking after babby.
It must also be remembered the bible tells us that women are not only the inferior gender, but they are the evil, hateful gender as well. According to the Malleus Maleficarum, there are many procedures one can use to test the evilness of women, including setting them on fire and pushing them off steep cliffs; should they survive, they are witches.
JUST AWESOME!!!!!
+1
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Lol I wouldn't quite go that far Gaz but funny non-the-less so +1 for effort.
And not really misogynistic either, it's just that women (for the most part) rarely can deal with the nature of the drug trade successfully because it's just too dog-eat-dog and it's nurturing. You do have exceptions to the rule of course, we have some great female vendors on here like Christy Nugs amongst others but the idea that women ruling SR would make it a less "Scam filled" is just ridiculous. The fact that a load of people have just called you out for being hysterical to my quite rational response sorta proves point-positive.
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In meantime of all this argument which is not getting us anywhere. OKAY so I fucked up, so i trusted to much. Thanks for the help from the HERO members, so far the HERO members talked nothing but trash, in reality you all got scammed and dont have the balls to admit. But thats okay. It just shows the care of even your potential customer or client that would spend money. I will make my money back, by coming on here and ripping people off myself by being a seller, because to me you guys are condoning this kind of behavior.
--RxKing--or any vendor that has posted and i checked that sell BTC for WU
Your sig states "I also sell BTC. I DO NOT CHARGE A FEE and I am the fastest service on Silk Road. Less then 60 minutes for you to get your coin from me. I also cover the Western Union fees!That means if you spend $500 you get $500. All information is in listing."
So what rules are you fucking following or any Dealer out there that has this listings, which i can name a handfull. That they will sell BTC for WU.
DO you send the BITCOINS first or do you accept WU first? Which one is? Or Does this open another fucking whole in SR allowing to do that and potentially get scammed. Do we have to trust you based on your feedbaack, like i did with PP.
Or how in god's name do you do this process? I would love to fucking know.
Dont fucking talk if you do the same shit by accepting WU you fucking prick or any fucking dealer out there.
I still would like a reply for the above quote
No Hero member or any member can help you. You need to help yourself. All a hero is is a person that post 500 messages or more. That's it. I mean what do you really think we should do for you? There is nothing we can do. We are actually busy taking care of our REAL customers. Hence the feedback I/we have.
What do you mean we all got scammed??? You need to sober up.
If I were to believe you ( i don't..but I really don't care either way) then I would tell you that you are an idiot. As you know. it is not about trust. It is about being smart! You were not smart. You have provided no proof what so ever. And I am sure your the kid at school that went to the hall monitor...but what do you think ANY of us can do??
You did a deal outside of SR. you got burned. End of story.
You want sympathy..your in the wrong place. If you were smart(your not) you should only have done this deal through SR. Get a custom listing and so forth.
It's great you think you are going to get your money back by scamming on SR. Just saying it shows how lame you are and how untrue your OP really was.
As for me read my feedback. And yea thats how it works.. you read the feedback and you do a deal THROUGH SILK ROAD. Not by sending money to fucking India you idiot. Get BTC, get a custom listing, pay with BTC, finalize AFTER you get your product.
IT IS THAT FUCKING EASY YOU MORON.
So quit posting in here crying for your dumb choices. If we are even to believe you since you have shown nothing and done even less.
You do have some trolls that feel bad for you. I wonder how they feel when you say you are going to try and scam SR. Please try and scam me. YOU cant do it. The only people you will scam are idiots like yourself that are dumb enough to deal off of SR and send money to INDIA!
You belong at Topix..and take your toll friends with you.
Most vendors won't do a $6,000 transaction through escrow, in fact there's a good chance not one ketamine vendor does. Mark may also be new and no vendor for any product would do an order like that for a newb.
So no, it;s not 'that simple.
You depend on out of escrow transactions for BTC trades, hypocrisy much? Creep.
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I'm about to add Ketamine to my listings and I will be putting anything up to 10KG in escrow. :)
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Real men don't trash women.
Anyway, Mark I hope you do fly to Spain and hunt tiny PP down. Maybe you could hire that hitman on the hidden wiki, maybe he will set up a vendor account on SR so you can pay in escrow. LOL
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I'm about to add Ketamine to my listings and I will be putting anything up to 10KG in escrow. :)
Will it be similar quality to the Mephedrone I saw people complaining about? lol.
Ok, I'm done fighting. I made my opinions clear enough, will you be shipping inside the US? I will take a free sample :D
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I'm about to add Ketamine to my listings and I will be putting anything up to 10KG in escrow. :)
Will it be similar quality to the Mephedrone I saw people complaining about? lol.
Ok, I'm done fighting. I made my opinions clear enough, will you be shipping inside the US? I will take a free sample :D
You saw what a few bad reports out of 100s of good sales. You do know people pull that as a scam tactics. You can have free samples if you wish, I don't mind to prove the point. :)
And yes I will be shipping to the U.S and world-wide.
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I think a girl like me needs to be running the show here at SR, things would be far more efficient and scams far less frequent.
Aha....this explains a lot.
Women (better-known as whores, bitches if they're dysfunctional) are the dumb, inferior gender pieces of flesh around the vagina that don't invent or discover things, save for perhaps Original Sin and sandwiches. It has been scientifically proven that women have smaller brains than men, and as such women are to be treated like sex-objects as porn has reminded us. They exist only to fulfill four functions: cooking, cleaning, fucking, and looking after babby.
It must also be remembered the bible tells us that women are not only the inferior gender, but they are the evil, hateful gender as well. According to the Malleus Maleficarum, there are many procedures one can use to test the evilness of women, including setting them on fire and pushing them off steep cliffs; should they survive, they are witches.
There is no way any man could fill the gaping cunthole that is my vagina.
Good for you. :)
Now be a good girl and go eat some chocolate and chill the fuck out, M'kay?
Real men don't trash women.
That's sexist!!! :o
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Real men don't trash women.
Anyway, Mark I hope you do fly to Spain and hunt tiny PP down. Maybe you could hire that hitman on the hidden wiki, maybe he will set up a vendor account on SR so you can pay in escrow. LOL
wow... just. wow. so much fail in this post. I don't go for all that biblical women hating shit, but you are one dumb, naive little bitch. YOU should be in charge of SR? lol
this thread has made me laugh, cringe, and almost (upon your entrance) break down crying. you know what sweetie? it's a cold, hard world out there, and drugs are illegal. there ain't no better business bureau. so maybe OP got scammed, maybe PP made a mistake, or maybe OP is 100% full of shit. at any rate, not only did he settle OOE, he didn't even use the fucking SR. he sent 6k halfway around the world in a fucking money order. a lot of bulk orders in general require FE, but that is still working within the road, though still not a wise idea.
no one here is saying scamming is ok, no one is saying people deserve to get burned. but it's the game we play. in real life, people will knock down your door and take what they want at gunpoint. at least online the violence is taken out of it, but it's the same fucking thing. SR exists for a reason. like someone else said, you kiddies might as well go back to topix.com. all these ridiculous threats and unsubstantiated accusations would be right at home there. k? now piss off
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Ah this thread has degenerated into what might be described as "An Utter Lol".
And Nosaj_thing you got's the right idea my man.
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JESUS CHRIST this is hilarious, just got this message from Superdooperlemonscooper -
What do I do to get a sample? I have never done RCs but I do not like psychedelics so nothing like nbome crap please. Do you recommend mephedrone? Or whatever, just send me what you want a review on, never done ketamine either. Or you can send me a neon skull, that was funny. If I like your stuff I guess I will go from your #1 hater to #1 customer looooool. Tell me what to do
Seriously. FUCK. MY. LIFE.
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i think she has a crush on you bru :D
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Women + SR = ???
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by coming to the forum and telling everyone you are stupid enough to send 6000 dollars to a random name western union you encourage scammers who see that people on SR are so stupid they will send $6000 to some random name western union. Ripping people off isnt acceptable but this guy just funded some scammer to scam here for along time thanks to being a retard. If people would follow the rules there would not be any scammers here because they could not make any money. So this guy is guilty just like the scammer. Next time the forums are getting spammed by some scammer you can know this guy paid for that dude to do that.
Don't support scammers and don't support the people who feed them. they both fuck up SR. The thought these people think buying illegal drugs online is 100% safe and are amazed they got scammed is just insane. You get scammed buying drugs face to face let alone online. The real scary thought is this guy was buying bulk drugs, so i assume he was going to sell them. this retard sends $6000 to some random dude western union but is smart enough to sell drugs and not get caught? Yea right. the scammer probably did him a favor and kept him from spending a few years in jail for selling drugs to an officer in uniform.
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Lol using Western Union for a $6000 order via SR? I'm sorry is someone trying write some sort of ironic joke?
If the OP did get mugged off then I'm afraid to say you bloody deserve it kid. SR's Escrow system is there for a reason and one of those reasons is that so ridiculous threads like this are started.
You're a fucking douche. No one deserves to get scammed for any amount of money no matter how they pay or who they buy from, you motherfucking scum. I rarely harbor ill will toward anyone but if a vendor has to be busted, I hope it will be you for making light of something like this, you are lower than garbage, trash, excrement. People have used WU for years with trusted vendors long before the shit road was around, scams sometimes occurred though those vendors were promptly put out of commission unlike here on SR where they are given free reign. Also in those communities people didn't gloat about people being scammed or formulate truly retarded conspiracy theories like this faggot graham claiming OP wasn't scammed even though the vendor won't address this issue in any way, publicly or privately. They worked together and protected each other from this shit as much as possible. What a fucking warped website this is full of demented creeps.
Fuck you and fuck SR admin for not banning this piece of shit pill poppers.
Who the motherfuck cares if this transaction was done out of escrow. The ONLY motherfucking question should be 'Is pill poppers a scammer'? Which appears to blatantly be the case(fuck you graham with you 'there's no proof he's a scammer' bullshit, he is clearly a fucking scammer you sniveling little long winded bottom bitch cunt ) If he is then he should not be allowed to vend PERIOD.
superduperlemonscooper, you make me feel giggly in my tummy. :-*
I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your gender direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.
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I lost my cool and apologize to everyone but graham and RxKreep and Gary Oak for my outburst. My parents taught me better than to swear so much or wish bad things on people. I just saw Mark was being bullied and picked on after he lost so much money. It made me mad that we are not coming together as a family but instead attacking this poor guy and fighting. My words did nothing to help. In the future I will try to be more inspirational and kind to get my point across and show you guys how SR could be instead of being vulgar, divisive and confrontational. I have a lot I can bring to this forum. Please forgive me, I am just a passionate person who hates to see injustice.
SDLS
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I don't know why you felt like you needed to point out you were female without any real provocation. It just reminds me of those "gamer girls" who love to point out that they're a girl playing whatever video game they play. It's like whatever, go about your business. If it comes up, it comes up. No need to make it a big deal. I'm a girl too but you don't see me running around with a sign
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I don't know why you felt like you needed to point out you were female without any real provocation. It just reminds me of those "gamer girls" who love to point out that they're a girl playing whatever video game they play. It's like whatever, go about your business. If it comes up, it comes up. No need to make it a big deal. I'm a girl too but you don't see me running around with a sign
Hmm, good question. Originally I said it because I felt that we're more compassionate and SR really needs this a lot based on this thread and admins actions, as far as my sig it is just a joke :D
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Oh okay, well I'm actually not a girl. Just taking the piss. I figured someone would call me out on that based on my avatar
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I lost my cool and apologize to everyone but graham and RxKreep and Gary Oak for my outburst. My parents taught me better than to swear so much or wish bad things on people. I just saw Mark was being bullied and picked on after he lost so much money. It made me mad that we are not coming together as a family but instead attacking this poor guy and fighting. My words did nothing to help. In the future I will try to be more inspirational and kind to get my point across and show you guys how SR could be instead of being vulgar, divisive and confrontational. I have a lot I can bring to this forum. Please forgive me, I am just a passionate person who hates to see injustice.
SDLS
Even though you chose to exclude me from your apology, I accept it anyway.
I wasn't 'bullying' or 'picking on' anyone. I was simply stating the facts. Innocent until proven guilty. The OP presented absolutely no proof that they were scammed by PILL popperz. They were effectively conducting a witch-hunt which is a disgusting spectacle to witness in a freedom based community such as this. Some people here are already acting as judge, jury and executioner where PILL popperz is concerned; it's a witch-hunt, plain and simple, following the exact same warped methods and mob mentality as took place during the late 1600's / early 1700's. Instead of 'Are you a witch? How long have you been in the snare of the devil? Confess!' it's 'Are you a scammer? How long have you been scamming? Confess!' Absolutely outrageous behaviour. There is no PROOF here that an act of scamming occurred, and if it did, it has nothing to do with Silk Road and everything to do with an individual sending $6000 to someone he'd never worked with before via Western Union. Would YOU send $6000 to a person you'd never met, and have no hope of recourse with should they decide to run off with your money?! ???
The OP stated that they made an off-site transaction and further stated that they do not wish to use Silk Road for large transactions, therefore the issues arising from that off-site transaction has no place on the Silk Road forums. If he truly did get scammed by somebody, I do feel bad for him, however, the rules are in place to prevent such occurrences.
You state you're a compassionate person who hates to see injustice. Does that include the injustice of false accusations or are you highly selective in what you consider to be an injustice? If you read my past posts defending members of this community from similar accusations you'll notice that I employ logic in my arguments, and that I abhor injustice. I will stand up for any member of our community when they face a mob with no proof of a misdeed, and that includes you should you ever be on the receiving end of a mob baying for blood.
I don't know why you felt like you needed to point out you were female without any real provocation. It just reminds me of those "gamer girls" who love to point out that they're a girl playing whatever video game they play. It's like whatever, go about your business. If it comes up, it comes up. No need to make it a big deal. I'm a girl too but you don't see me running around with a sign
Hmm, good question. Originally I said it because I felt that we're more compassionate and SR really needs this a lot based on this thread and admins actions, as far as my sig it is just a joke :D
This is not an issue of 'compassion', it is an issue of common sense. This community is plenty compassionate, you can see that from our protectiveness of new users who wish to work within the rules. If one is not willing to abide by the rules here, they are free to take their business elsewhere - as the OP did. However, in doing so, they lose all right to complain to this community and demand action by the administrators of the very system they deigned not to use in the first place. It's akin to me going to book a room in a hotel but deciding to go sleep on the street instead, then suing the hotel when I wake up after having all of my personal effects stolen because I'd decided not to avail of their services. Does that make sense to you?! ???
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I lost my cool and apologize to everyone but graham and RxKreep and Gary Oak for my outburst. My parents taught me better than to swear so much or wish bad things on people. I just saw Mark was being bullied and picked on after he lost so much money. It made me mad that we are not coming together as a family but instead attacking this poor guy and fighting. My words did nothing to help. In the future I will try to be more inspirational and kind to get my point across and show you guys how SR could be instead of being vulgar, divisive and confrontational. I have a lot I can bring to this forum. Please forgive me, I am just a passionate person who hates to see injustice.
SDLS
Even though you chose to exclude me from your apology, I accept it anyway.
I wasn't 'bullying' or 'picking on' anyone. I was simply stating the facts. The OP presented absolutely no proof that they were scammed by PILL popperz. They were effectively conducting a witch-hunt which is a disgusting spectacle to witness in a freedom based community such as this. Some people here are already acting as judge, jury and executioner where PILL popperz's is concerned; it's a witch-hunt, plain and simple, following the exact same warped methods and mob mentality as took place during the late 1600's / early 1700's. Instead of 'Are you a witch? How long have you been in the snare of the devil? Confess!' it's 'Are you a scammer? How long have you been scamming? Confess!' Absolutely outrageous behaviour. There is no PROOF here that an act of scamming occurred, and if it did, it has nothing to do with Silk Road and everything to do with an individual sending $6000 to someone he'd never worked with before via Western Union. Would YOU send $6000 to a person you'd never met, and have no hope of recourse with should they decide to run off with your money?! ???
The OP stated that they made an off-site transaction and further stated that they do not wish to use Silk Road for large transactions, therefore the issues arising from that off-site transaction has no place on the Silk Road forums. If he truly did get scammed by somebody, I do feel bad for him, however, the rules are in place to prevent such occurrences.
I don't know why you felt like you needed to point out you were female without any real provocation. It just reminds me of those "gamer girls" who love to point out that they're a girl playing whatever video game they play. It's like whatever, go about your business. If it comes up, it comes up. No need to make it a big deal. I'm a girl too but you don't see me running around with a sign
Hmm, good question. Originally I said it because I felt that we're more compassionate and SR really needs this a lot based on this thread and admins actions, as far as my sig it is just a joke :D
This is not an issue of 'compassion', it is an issue of common sense. This community is plenty compassionate, you can see that from our protectiveness of new users who wish to work within the rules. If one is not willing to abide by the rules here, they are free to take their business elsewhere - as the OP did. However, in doing so, they lose all right to complain to this community and demand action by the administrators of the very system they deigned not to use in the first place. It's akin to me going to book a room in a hotel but deciding to go sleep on the street instead, then suing the hotel when I wake up after having all of my personal effects stolen because I'd decided not to avail of their services. Does that make sense to you?! ???
Ok, even though I disagree with you I now include you in my apology :D You type too much though graham, loool. What are you on? Does limitless sell it? If so I think I found what I want to choose for my free sample!! Hahaha 8)
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Ok, even though I disagree with you I now include you in my apology :D You type too much though graham, loool. What are you on? Does limitless sell it? If so I think I found what I want to choose for my free sample!! Hahaha 8)
I type as much as I have to to explain my points thoroughly.
As far as what I'm on goes, nothing I'm afraid, so I can't be of any help in that regard. I don't use recreational drugs apart from a few beers, a couple of cups of coffee, ephedrine for working out and viagra to counter-effect the ephedrine - none of which I'm using right now; although I am rather sleep deprived due to work so perhaps you should try not sleeping for 27 hours. It's wild.
- grahamgreene
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Ok, even though I disagree with you I now include you in my apology :D You type too much though graham, loool. What are you on? Does limitless sell it? If so I think I found what I want to choose for my free sample!! Hahaha 8)
I type as much as I have to to explain my points thoroughly.
As far as what I'm on goes, nothing I'm afraid, so I can't be of any help in that regard. I don't use recreational drugs apart from a few beers, a couple of cups of coffee, ephedrine for working out and viagra to counter-effect the ephedrine - none of which I'm using right now; although I am rather sleep deprived due to work so perhaps you should try not sleeping for 27 hours. It's wild.
- grahamgreene
Ha, I know I have been very regretful of some emails I have sent when tired(not to mention drunk or high!). Props on being drug free! BUT, unless you're joking, strange.... Mind if I ask why you're even here? For the boner pills? When I'm tired I get really cranky but there's nothing like being super mega tired, taking a shower, getting in PJs and comfy slippers then going to bed with a glass of warm milk or tea!
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I lost my cool and apologize to everyone but graham and RxKreep and Gary Oak for my outburst. My parents taught me better than to swear so much or wish bad things on people. I just saw Mark was being bullied and picked on after he lost so much money. It made me mad that we are not coming together as a family but instead attacking this poor guy and fighting. My words did nothing to help. In the future I will try to be more inspirational and kind to get my point across and show you guys how SR could be instead of being vulgar, divisive and confrontational. I have a lot I can bring to this forum. Please forgive me, I am just a passionate person who hates to see injustice.
SDLS
What a dumb whore. We are now at least positive your a female. They are the only ones stupid enough to make this post.You have nothing you can bring to this forum unless you are willing to write our screen names on your body and take pics as you fuck yourself with dildos and fruit.
Mark was never getting bullied. We don't come together for a buyer that didn't even make a purchase on SR and 99.99% never even happened.
You to will soon vanish. The drugs you are on will where off and you will realize what a loser you are and that you should go clean something. You are the exact type of person we do not need on here. You over reacted in your post, made no sense, we told you so at the time, you kept arguing (typical cunt) and 3 hours later you come in here and apologize for being a stupid girl and tell us you have something to offer.
The only thing you said in all of your post that made any sense was this----
"My words did NOTHING to help"
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I lost my cool and apologize to everyone but graham and RxKreep and Gary Oak for my outburst. My parents taught me better than to swear so much or wish bad things on people. I just saw Mark was being bullied and picked on after he lost so much money. It made me mad that we are not coming together as a family but instead attacking this poor guy and fighting. My words did nothing to help. In the future I will try to be more inspirational and kind to get my point across and show you guys how SR could be instead of being vulgar, divisive and confrontational. I have a lot I can bring to this forum. Please forgive me, I am just a passionate person who hates to see injustice.
SDLS
Even though you chose to exclude me from your apology, I accept it anyway.
I wasn't 'bullying' or 'picking on' anyone. I was simply stating the facts. Innocent until proven guilty. The OP presented absolutely no proof that they were scammed by PILL popperz. They were effectively conducting a witch-hunt which is a disgusting spectacle to witness in a freedom based community such as this. Some people here are already acting as judge, jury and executioner where PILL popperz is concerned; it's a witch-hunt, plain and simple, following the exact same warped methods and mob mentality as took place during the late 1600's / early 1700's. Instead of 'Are you a witch? How long have you been in the snare of the devil? Confess!' it's 'Are you a scammer? How long have you been scamming? Confess!' Absolutely outrageous behaviour. There is no PROOF here that an act of scamming occurred, and if it did, it has nothing to do with Silk Road and everything to do with an individual sending $6000 to someone he'd never worked with before via Western Union. Would YOU send $6000 to a person you'd never met, and have no hope of recourse with should they decide to run off with your money?! ???
The OP stated that they made an off-site transaction and further stated that they do not wish to use Silk Road for large transactions, therefore the issues arising from that off-site transaction has no place on the Silk Road forums. If he truly did get scammed by somebody, I do feel bad for him, however, the rules are in place to prevent such occurrences.
You state you're a compassionate person who hates to see injustice. Does that include the injustice of false accusations or are you highly selective in what you consider to be an injustice? If you read my past posts defending members of this community from similar accusations you'll notice that I employ logic in my arguments, and that I abhor injustice. I will stand up for any member of our community when they face a mob with no proof of a misdeed, and that includes you should you ever be on the receiving end of a mob baying for blood.
I don't know why you felt like you needed to point out you were female without any real provocation. It just reminds me of those "gamer girls" who love to point out that they're a girl playing whatever video game they play. It's like whatever, go about your business. If it comes up, it comes up. No need to make it a big deal. I'm a girl too but you don't see me running around with a sign
Hmm, good question. Originally I said it because I felt that we're more compassionate and SR really needs this a lot based on this thread and admins actions, as far as my sig it is just a joke :D
This is not an issue of 'compassion', it is an issue of common sense. This community is plenty compassionate, you can see that from our protectiveness of new users who wish to work within the rules. If one is not willing to abide by the rules here, they are free to take their business elsewhere - as the OP did. However, in doing so, they lose all right to complain to this community and demand action by the administrators of the very system they deigned not to use in the first place. It's akin to me going to book a room in a hotel but deciding to go sleep on the street instead, then suing the hotel when I wake up after having all of my personal effects stolen because I'd decided not to avail of their services. Does that make sense to you?! ???
PERFECT POST! +1 And I will hit you again in 36 hours it was that god :)
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I lost my cool and apologize to everyone but graham and RxKreep and Gary Oak for my outburst. My parents taught me better than to swear so much or wish bad things on people. I just saw Mark was being bullied and picked on after he lost so much money. It made me mad that we are not coming together as a family but instead attacking this poor guy and fighting. My words did nothing to help. In the future I will try to be more inspirational and kind to get my point across and show you guys how SR could be instead of being vulgar, divisive and confrontational. I have a lot I can bring to this forum. Please forgive me, I am just a passionate person who hates to see injustice.
SDLS
What a dumb whore. We are now at least positive your a female. They are the only ones stupid enough to make this post.You have nothing you can bring to this forum unless you are willing to write our screen names on your body and take pics as you fuck yourself with dildos and fruit.
Mark was never getting bullied. We don't come together for a buyer that didn't even make a purchase on SR and 99.99% never even happened.
You to will soon vanish. The drugs you are on will where off and you will realize what a loser you are and that you should go clean something. You are the exact type of person we do not need on here. You over reacted in your post, made no sense, we told you so at the time, you kept arguing (typical cunt) and 3 hours later you come in here and apologize for being a stupid girl and tell us you have something to offer.
The only thing you said in all of your post that made any sense was this----
"My words did NOTHING to help"
I should not even reply your post because I do not respect you sine you are clearly a very cruel person full of hate (the type of people I ignore and stay away from IRL). But I just wanted to say I am not on drugs and don't need them to be happy. I was just very tired earlier and came back after a nap to apologize. I'm a positive person and I know I am am asset to SR, I have helped many people here giving the BTC for free when they were short and other kind things. People like you just need to disappear from here your presence is toxic and your hate for women is disturbing to say the least. You sound like a serial killer.
I can tell you are an extremely unhappy person and as a christian I will honestly pray for you and hope you one day find the happiness that has escaped you for your whole life. Best wishes
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I lost my cool and apologize to everyone but graham and RxKreep and Gary Oak for my outburst. My parents taught me better than to swear so much or wish bad things on people. I just saw Mark was being bullied and picked on after he lost so much money. It made me mad that we are not coming together as a family but instead attacking this poor guy and fighting. My words did nothing to help. In the future I will try to be more inspirational and kind to get my point across and show you guys how SR could be instead of being vulgar, divisive and confrontational. I have a lot I can bring to this forum. Please forgive me, I am just a passionate person who hates to see injustice.
SDLS
What a dumb whore. We are now at least positive your a female. They are the only ones stupid enough to make this post.You have nothing you can bring to this forum unless you are willing to write our screen names on your body and take pics as you fuck yourself with dildos and fruit.
Mark was never getting bullied. We don't come together for a buyer that didn't even make a purchase on SR and 99.99% never even happened.
You to will soon vanish. The drugs you are on will where off and you will realize what a loser you are and that you should go clean something. You are the exact type of person we do not need on here. You over reacted in your post, made no sense, we told you so at the time, you kept arguing (typical cunt) and 3 hours later you come in here and apologize for being a stupid girl and tell us you have something to offer.
The only thing you said in all of your post that made any sense was this----
"My words did NOTHING to help"
I should not even reply your post because I do not respect you sine you are clearly a very cruel person full of hate (the type of people I ignore and stay away from IRL). But I just wanted to say I am not on drugs and don't need them to be happy. I was just very tired earlier and came back after a nap to apologize. I'm a positive person and I know I am am asset to SR, I have helped many people here giving the BTC for free when they were short and other kind things. People like you just need to disappear from here your presence is toxic and your hate for women is disturbing to say the least. You sound like a serial killer.
I can tell you are an extremely unhappy person and as a christian I will honestly pray for you and hope you one day find the happiness that has escaped you for your whole life. Best wishes
Read my feedback...People like me is why SR exist. There will ALWAYS be buyers...but there are very few willing to or have the means to vend and do it well.
And I don't hate woman at all. I love them..especially when they are blowing me, going to get me something, or doing something for me.
As you have proven woman are crazy. You are Bipolar. And don't give yourself to much credit. No one said you were happy or that you need drugs to be happy. I guess your just on a drug forum and in your own words "doing nothing". I mean who the fuck takes a nap then comes back in and says sorry I needed a nap! Don't get me wrong...naps are great...but I am going to say the same shit before and after one.
And you will soon be gone. You will not stick around. You wont even be around in 2 weeks. Yet I will be here vending to the masses and actually help make this place run. I like a clean litter free road. You are just a piece of trash that blew on to the road. You will blow away soon enough. You are more of a topix girl.
Then again I could be wrong and you might just be a superstar and a huge asset here.
Lets see if you can calm down and not continue on your stupid path on the bike trail next to the road. Just be careful, I run over slow cars and bikes. Now go buy something or loan someone that .4 BTC they are short. Because as we all know those are never scams. :o
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I lost my cool and apologize to everyone but graham and RxKreep and Gary Oak for my outburst. My parents taught me better than to swear so much or wish bad things on people. I just saw Mark was being bullied and picked on after he lost so much money. It made me mad that we are not coming together as a family but instead attacking this poor guy and fighting. My words did nothing to help. In the future I will try to be more inspirational and kind to get my point across and show you guys how SR could be instead of being vulgar, divisive and confrontational. I have a lot I can bring to this forum. Please forgive me, I am just a passionate person who hates to see injustice.
SDLS
What a dumb whore. We are now at least positive your a female. They are the only ones stupid enough to make this post.You have nothing you can bring to this forum unless you are willing to write our screen names on your body and take pics as you fuck yourself with dildos and fruit.
Mark was never getting bullied. We don't come together for a buyer that didn't even make a purchase on SR and 99.99% never even happened.
You to will soon vanish. The drugs you are on will where off and you will realize what a loser you are and that you should go clean something. You are the exact type of person we do not need on here. You over reacted in your post, made no sense, we told you so at the time, you kept arguing (typical cunt) and 3 hours later you come in here and apologize for being a stupid girl and tell us you have something to offer.
The only thing you said in all of your post that made any sense was this----
"My words did NOTHING to help"
I should not even reply your post because I do not respect you sine you are clearly a very cruel person full of hate (the type of people I ignore and stay away from IRL). But I just wanted to say I am not on drugs and don't need them to be happy. I was just very tired earlier and came back after a nap to apologize. I'm a positive person and I know I am am asset to SR, I have helped many people here giving the BTC for free when they were short and other kind things. People like you just need to disappear from here your presence is toxic and your hate for women is disturbing to say the least. You sound like a serial killer.
I can tell you are an extremely unhappy person and as a christian I will honestly pray for you and hope you one day find the happiness that has escaped you for your whole life. Best wishes
Read my feedback...People like me is why SR exist. There will ALWAYS be buyers...but there are very few willing to or have the means to vend and do it well.
And I don't hate woman at all. I love them..especially when they are blowing me, going to get me something, or doing something for me.
As you have proven woman are crazy. You are Bipolar. And don't give yourself to much credit. No one said you were happy or that you need drugs to be happy. I guess your just on a drug forum and in your own words "doing nothing". I mean who the fuck takes a nap then comes back in and says sorry I needed a nap! Don't get me wrong...naps are great...but I am going to say the same shit before and after one.
And you will soon be gone. You will not stick around. You wont even be around in 2 weeks. Yet I will be here vending to the masses and actually help make this place run. I like a clean litter free road. You are just a piece of trash that blew on to the road. You will blow away soon enough. You are more of a topix girl.
Then again I could be wrong and you might just be a superstar and a huge asset here.
Lets see if you can calm down and not continue on your stupid path on the bike trail next to the road. Just be careful, I run over slow cars and bikes. Now go buy something or loan someone that .4 BTC they are short. Because as we all know those are never scams. :o
hahaha. +1
pewpew.
6k scammed, sucks.
/thumbs
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This girl sent me a message saying how bad a person Pablo is and tons of other crazy shit. Once again Lim can't control hi bitches.
She went on and on and on and on. I told he it is just a fucking picture...Of a drug king and since I sell drugs and named myself king, I chose his picture..No shit he was not that good a guy. Then again from what I read he was pretty fucking nice. I guess it's all how you look at it.
I chose to see the good in people. Except this dummy.
As to the OP. I do not think he is being honest. And if he is and he lost 6k sending it to India he should take some joy in knowing that pays for like 50 people to eat and live for 4 years!
And I do not feel bad for him in any way other then he is to stupid to be here. And him more then anyone needs SR. He can't get hurt if he follows the rules!
Just NEVER FE. But make sure and finalize as soon as you get your package. Then it is a win win!
Oh and don't take these threads to serious.. Were just talking shit and letting the idiots have it.
In a nice way ;)
I'm done with this thread. Have fun with "her"
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Lol check this gem she just sent to me, this girl is clearly under 17 years old.
I see you changed your tune.
I don't make those skulls, for the second time that is Nomad Bloodbath who is a different Moderator.
Of course because it shows you are a good guy that you would send me a free sample after I talked crap about you! How can I hate you after that :D I still think you were way too mean to mark, but I forgive you and kind of sense you realize you were a bit out of line. Were u just joking? No sample? You can't do that to me! :'( I would love to try mephedrone or ketamine if u really will send me a sample. Both I have never tried. I will post a truthful review. So please let me know if you were just trying to break my heart by offering a sample. You will make your money back if it is good! I am a great customer and person. Are we friends now? Ok maybe you don't like me but I bet you will
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Lol check this gem she just sent to me, this girl is clearly under 17 years old.
I see you changed your tune.
I don't make those skulls, for the second time that is Nomad Bloodbath who is a different Moderator.
Of course because it shows you are a good guy that you would send me a free sample after I talked crap about you! How can I hate you after that :D I still think you were way too mean to mark, but I forgive you and kind of sense you realize you were a bit out of line. Were u just joking? No sample? You can't do that to me! :'( I would love to try mephedrone or ketamine if u really will send me a sample. Both I have never tried. I will post a truthful review. So please let me know if you were just trying to break my heart by offering a sample. You will make your money back if it is good! I am a great customer and person. Are we friends now? Ok maybe you don't like me but I bet you will
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Oh dear.. :-\
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I know.....it's just ridiculous. ::)
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;D what is going on with this thread ;D
This is some of the best reading material I have had all day. Hahahahah! Nice one Lim!
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Well so far we have someone being mugged off $6K, an under 18 girl who has too many opinions and is clearly a bit of a sample whore and a Limetless who has lost a bit more faith in life because of this sample whoredom.
All in all, it's a bit of a pickle to say the least.
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Well so far we have someone being mugged off $6K, an under 18 girl who has too many opinions and is clearly a bit of a sample whore and a Limetless who has lost a bit more faith in life because of this sample whoredom.
All in all, it's a bit of a pickle to say the least.
Do I have to read 10 pages to find out why a vendor is taking WU money, and keeping their account?
Or was OPs, just a bullshitter?
God this thing reads like crap.
10 pages, and I'm missing the point?
I see at least the vendor responded, so the answer must be no.
OPs if the answer is yes, report him to SR Support.
Jeez...... the drama :o
Spend 6k, and not have a clue.
See what drug abuse does to people?
or is it greed?
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Lol it is pretty soul destroying.
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Well so far we have someone being mugged off $6K, an under 18 girl who has too many opinions and is clearly a bit of a sample whore and a Limetless who has lost a bit more faith in life because of this sample whoredom.
All in all, it's a bit of a pickle to say the least.
Well if it's any consolation to you Lim, I am very grateful for the sample you sent me. It got mixed up in the confusion of your being busy and preparing for vacation yet you still came through, good man!
As for whiny little children, well it's humorous at least :)
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i guess not getting anywhere, here are 2 tracking numbers that was suppose to be sent to me in NY, never arrived but went to 2 different places.
below are the fucking tracking numbers i dont give a fuck whos watching, if i dont get 50% of my money back ill release the names, im fucking done.
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this is the last msg to replying to SR support team while they stated
" There's not enough for me to act yet, but I've got my eye on them.
~SR Support
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my reply to SR
This is my last msg to PILL POPPERZ,
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yo you fucking prick, the second tracking you gave which was also not mine. FUCK YOU, im putting the fucking names out there, with both tracking numbers, not only the other tracking number wont reach it, .
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Its scumbs like that ruin board like this, i asked for help, as a new person he steered me out of the way its suppose to be done. Its people like me that buy quantities like this and would have still done business through here board, yes i am to blame but now knowing i would have followed the procedure, i cant believe the admin cant help, me , i have all the proof the emails and even offered to give you my loggins.
You figure out the percentage you could have been making off me buying quantities like this couple times a month. Just because of his stupidity i'm going to release the tracking number to board and all over google, as well as the names i wired the money to India.
FIRST TRACKING NUMBER that looser gave me is ---removed---
both of these were suppose to be delivered NEW YORK.
That second tracking number will not reach 2nd destination cause im gonna notify the post office.
THANNKS FOR YOUR HELP AND I SEE HOW YOU WELCOME NEW PEOPLE.
FUCK THIS, i will release the fucking names and tracking # over and over, post gets deleted i will rewrite. I dont give a shit what anyone has to fucking say or how stupid I am or what not. So go run your fucking mouth all you want. That prick still hasnt responded. Fucking prick
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hi mods, i suggest you delete this thread and ban this asshole- this is clearly not the kind of shit needed here
hope you learned your lesson kid
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yeah seriously, fuck this markgorges guy.
if he really did get scammed, im kinda glad lol ... he's a total doofus.
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yo fuck you fred, infact before i picked PP, you offered to do business outside SR also, you mother fucker, what the fuck you talking about. Its bitches like you & PP that fuck good shit up for people. If this was done in person, i would've shot you on the spot.
talking about you fuck me to if i did WU earlier in your posts. I see PP is just another bitch, giving me some one else fucking tracking numbers, show how much he cares abour his customers giving me their tracking numbers so i sit and wait till it goes by my state. How fucking stupid can he be..
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I guess i aint the only getting fucked. Got few msg from people that he's fucking people and they are contacting SR support. Funny hows his feedback is droppiing.. yeah he aint a scammer. fucking bitch
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MORE PEOPLE ARE msging me stating similiar problems but dont want to post because they dont wanna loose out if the dickhead little bitch PP reads this shit.
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Too bad to hear these messages. I ordered from him a few weeks ago and hope it will be okay (postal delivery times vary). I haven't received the tracking number for that shipment yet, but he said to look into it by PM today.
I've previously done some business with him and that went without a hitch though, so for now i don't assume a scam, just logistical problems with growth. It would be very sad if all this went south, since the product i received before was of good quality and decent price.
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yo fuck you fred, infact before i picked PP, you offered to do business outside SR also, you mother fucker, what the fuck you talking about. Its bitches like you & PP that fuck good shit up for people. If this was done in person, i would've shot you on the spot.
talking about you fuck me to if i did WU earlier in your posts. I see PP is just another bitch, giving me some one else fucking tracking numbers, show how much he cares abour his customers giving me their tracking numbers so i sit and wait till it goes by my state. How fucking stupid can he be..
LOL ... I offered to do biz with you ? Dont think so bud. I dont sell/advertise/work on SR, so try again. I dont sell Ketamine either loser.
Wildly untrue accusations, sounds like your style. Enjoy your losses !!
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you lucky i deleted that fucking msg, i had your or someone profile by that name that was selling. fuck off this thread fucking looser that has nothing better to do.
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I think a girl like me needs to be running the show here at SR, things would be far more efficient and scams far less frequent.
Aha....this explains a lot.
Women (better-known as whores, bitches if they're dysfunctional) are the dumb, inferior gender pieces of flesh around the vagina that don't invent or discover things, save for perhaps Original Sin and sandwiches. It has been scientifically proven that women have smaller brains than men, and as such women are to be treated like sex-objects as porn has reminded us. They exist only to fulfill four functions: cooking, cleaning, fucking, and looking after babby.
It must also be remembered the bible tells us that women are not only the inferior gender, but they are the evil, hateful gender as well. According to the Malleus Maleficarum, there are many procedures one can use to test the evilness of women, including setting them on fire and pushing them off steep cliffs; should they survive, they are witches.
Fucking hilarious. My wife found it funny too :) She doesn't fit in to the whore/bitch category which is probably why she literally spat her coffee out this morning from laughing so hard at this. You sir are a God among men.
this is the last msg to replying to SR support team while they stated
" There's not enough for me to act yet, but I've got my eye on them.
~SR Support
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my reply to SR
This is my last msg to PILL POPPERZ,
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yo you fucking prick, the second tracking you gave which was also not mine. FUCK YOU, im putting the fucking names out there, with both tracking numbers, not only the other tracking number wont reach it, .
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Its scumbs like that ruin board like this, i asked for help, as a new person he steered me out of the way its suppose to be done. Its people like me that buy quantities like this and would have still done business through here board, yes i am to blame but now knowing i would have followed the procedure, i cant believe the admin cant help, me , i have all the proof the emails and even offered to give you my loggins.
You figure out the percentage you could have been making off me buying quantities like this couple times a month. Just because of his stupidity i'm going to release the tracking number to board and all over google, as well as the names i wired the money to India.
FIRST TRACKING NUMBER that looser gave me is ---removed---
both of these were suppose to be delivered NEW YORK.
That second tracking number will not reach 2nd destination cause im gonna notify the post office.
THANNKS FOR YOUR HELP AND I SEE HOW YOU WELCOME NEW PEOPLE.
FUCK THIS, i will release the fucking names and tracking # over and over, post gets deleted i will rewrite. I dont give a shit what anyone has to fucking say or how stupid I am or what not. So go run your fucking mouth all you want. That prick still hasnt responded. Fucking prick
Great plan B - all caps and abuse always seem to get me what I want. I get that your mad, but you should direct that anger at yourself. Either you did a dumb thing, which has been pointed across 11 pages now, or you're full of shit. I'm not saying which it is, because who knows? It doesn't matter though, because either way it's your fault. That's not mean, harsh, cruel, unfair, or anything else - it's the reality of the situation that you alone created. You didn't get mugged or robbed. You operated outside a system designed to protect us and your reason is "well everyone else does it". You don't hear of many people getting ripped off whilst operating inside escrow - the system works. Go outside of it, and it's like mad max out there - kill or be killed. I never ask my customers to FE or go outside escrow, it's insane.
It's not hard to predict where this is going to end. You aren't going to get your money back if the transaction happened in the first place. Or if this is made up, you aren't going to bring PP down by defaming him. What's your next move? Leak the info, I doubt PP gives a shit - he wouldn't have given you anything he didn't want out there in case he was sending to LE.
Most entertaining 11 pages i've read in a while.
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epic thread!
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For what it's worth, PP's "Weight Loss" listings are questionable. I ordered 60 pills of sibutramine but I received 50 pills of orlistat. PP told me that the shipper had fucked up and gave me a 25% refund. However, it was clear that the blister packs had been tampered with - the top of the pack (the "head") that stated the active ingredient and dosage had been cut off. The only way to know it was orlistat was because of some fine print at the bottom of the pack.
You can make of my experience what you will.
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Wow I literally just spent probably around 30+ minutes reading every post of these 11 pages....and I have to say I was sitting here laughing my ass off at some of the replies, good shit, thanks for the entertainment on this lonely Friday night.
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Has this scammer been banned yet? Tragic if not, looks really bad for sr
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Has this scammer been banned yet? Tragic if not, looks really bad for sr
Nah Mark is still around posting his unsubstantiated claims :(
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Has this scammer been banned yet? Tragic if not, looks really bad for sr
Nah Mark is still around posting his unsubstantiated claims :(
PPs silence is all the proof anyone needs to determine he's a scammer
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What about the fact other buyers are coming out of the woodworks with claims he's sent them the wrong shit and shorted packages.
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What about the fact other buyers are coming out of the woodworks with claims he's sent them the wrong shit and shorted packages.
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I've had nothing but a good experience with PP. I order alprazolam from him. All my orders have been under $500 a piece. I placed one $140 and I did FE for the august deal, and that came through perfectly and in the expected time.
On top of that, he's never taken longer than a day to contact me. Both his Trika and Tranax brand hit like they should. I've never been apprehensive in dealing with PP, and I was kinda surprised to see these threads popping up on the rumor mill.
Quite frankly, everyone needs to put down the pitchforks and let a SR admin handle this one. There's no knowing for sure unless someone within SR takes a look at it, and that's that. I look forward to hearing the outcome on this one either way.
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as a christian I will honestly pray for you and hope you one day find the happiness that has escaped you for your whole life. Best wishes
WTF are you doing on the most famous (and infamous) drug market in the world? It just seems so out of character for a devout Christian.
let them drink wine and partake in thy worldly pleasures: leviticus 24:76 KJV
Learn the bible before you speak.
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wish there was a popcorn eating emoticon.
jk. i feel for this dude if he didn't get his shit. hope it all works out in the end.
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SuperDuper, you're a real card
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I am new to sr but far from new to the game as far as fred the baker you told me you do western union and you told markgeorge you would have fucked him too, first off if there's enough money to be made without losers having to scam so i urge all new users of SR to withhold any purchases until the matter is resolved !! I really don't believe someone would make a case if there was not one especially over$ 6,000.00. As for those named i would be willing to take care of them msg me a name address and price. Fred i would have sliced you from ear to ear took a pic and posted it all over SR with a smile from me and a lesson to the doucehbags of who think they can screw people this site is not as annonymous as you would like to think !
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I actually had a great experience with PP. Ordered 5g of opium and it came to the East Coast of USA no problem at all. Sent me a tracking number, always answered every question I had. I naturally had my doubts buying from someone in India, but I truly had no issue at all with him. Packaging was good, too.
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It doesn't help marks situation (if there ever was one) but I have a package that is tracking just fine.
So perhaps the lesson is to keep transactions within SR..
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Damn this thread......well.....just damn.....this thread.
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What a dumb whore. We are now at least positive your a female. They are the only ones stupid enough to make this post.You have nothing you can bring to this forum unless you are willing to write our screen names on your body and take pics as you fuck yourself with dildos and fruit.
ahahhaha +1 for fruit
This thread is Golden Shower.
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That really sucks to hear, man. Just the other day, I made a deal with SR vendor UN: SRdn666 for ~3 BTC. He wanted FE (though his page mentioned optional). When I said no, deal cancelled, BTC refunded. This is nowhere near $6000, but the point stands - the escrow system is there for a reason. The internet is anonymous, and we do quite a bit to keep it that way. It's up to the sellers and vendors to use the system provided for accountability. Doing a deal outside SR, then coming to SR to complain simply won't gain my sympathy.
I wish you luck with your problem. This is an expensive lesson to learn.
I have to reply on it because one buyer told me I have bad opinion here. I don't require FE and all my customers can confirm that I have never requested for FE. Only I ask for FE when it's send to USA or Australia because it's far away and letters takes long time and I really don't want to wait up to month for my money. I canceled order because I didn't want to make deal with him. I'm vendor here so I can decide about it.
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That's absolutely suspect!!!! Why would you have someone send money then decide to cancel ! If you did cancel why was the money not sent back, there would be no thread whatsoever !!!
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Mark there is a reason PP had you WE outside the safety of SR.It is so he could fuck you proper without any retaliation from SR admin. I'm new to the online trade but I know the street . I know people that will cut your throat for a quarter of what you gave PP.All he had to do was type and take his fake id down to WU and pick up his check. sorry dude. ..live and learn
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I placed one $140 and I did FE for the august deal, and that came through perfectly and in the expected time.
I was actually wondering about these deals - I'm so tempted to go for the 300 valium October FE deal - but I never ever FE, so I'm a bit torn on what to do.
Have other people had experience with these monthly offer FE deals that PP does?
Regards,
J
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I'm just gonna put my two cents in here, not only because I should have way more posts than I actually do, but also because I ordered from PILL popperz once and, even though it had to go into the resolution stage, he accepted to extend the date 10 days AND gave me the tracking number to my order. Once it got here everything that I ordered was there and intact. I had absolutely no problems with him/them, but everyone makes mistakes once in a while. That's all I have to say.
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His orders do take some time to reach, but all I know of did eventually arrive and all correct. All about 18-25 days.
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For what it's worth, PP's "Weight Loss" listings are questionable. I ordered 60 pills of sibutramine but I received 50 pills of orlistat. PP told me that the shipper had fucked up and gave me a 25% refund. However, it was clear that the blister packs had been tampered with - the top of the pack (the "head") that stated the active ingredient and dosage had been cut off. The only way to know it was orlistat was because of some fine print at the bottom of the pack.
You can make of my experience what you will.
Did you shit yourself before or after taking the Orlistat?
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His orders do take some time to reach, but all I know of did eventually arrive and all correct. All about 18-25 days.
I placed an order about 6 weeks ago, but apparently it was sent out only 3 weeks ago, no tracking information provided either.
They may still arrive, but on a previous order i got a tracking number and it arrived in 2 weeks (to western europe). Stupidly i didn't keep an eye on things and let the order auto finalize, so its luck from here on.
Given previous good experiences and good reviews i'm not giving up on this order yet, but it is taking far longer then expected to arrive. I will post back if/when it arrives.
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thanx. i wanted to order my fucking meds from pillpopperz but now i surely wont anymore!
thank you !
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"Women (better-known as whores, bitches if they're dysfunctional) are the dumb, inferior gender pieces of flesh around the vagina that don't invent or discover things, save for perhaps Original Sin and sandwiches. It has been scientifically proven that women have smaller brains than men, and as such women are to be treated like sex-objects as porn has reminded us. They exist only to fulfill four functions: cooking, cleaning, fucking, and looking after babby."
thats so fucking funny ;D
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This thread is funny and all, but it really should be locked or deleted.
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Harold & Kumar! ;D
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"okay so here were my options
A. quickly duck sideways, dodge the claw, then take him with a spinning back kick
or
B. take the claw in the face and roll on the ground and die.
... should have gone with A."
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Harold & Kumar! ;D
LOL +1 8)
Mark to be fair - who on earth would send 6000.00 by western union to some random person to buy some drugs online?????
Sit back and ask yourself that....Or even better look in a mirror and keep asking it over and over again. You'll probably come to the conclusion you deserves to be scammed (if that is even the case), for being such a dumb ass.
No offense, but come on dude that is seriously fucking stupid :o
P.S. Regarding my earlier post about the 300 FE deal PP does. I placed the order and because of my stats being perfect PP said no need to FE, so to me that says he's a good genuine vendor - My pills don't arrive, my money's safe 8)
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So there could be a new series of The Kumars at No. 42 stating soon.
I used to like that show, shame the budget ran out.
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as a christian I will honestly pray for you and hope you one day find the happiness that has escaped you for your whole life. Best wishes
WTF are you doing on the most famous (and infamous) drug market in the world? It just seems so out of character for a devout Christian.
let them drink wine and partake in thy worldly pleasures: leviticus 24:76 KJV
Learn the bible before you speak.
that would apply to you as well my dear, there is no 76th verse in chapter 24 of the book of leviticus. lmfqpao!
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holy fuck i never even bothered to check before but that's right
lolllllllllllllllllllllll
i think we all got trolled by super
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I can vouch for pillpopperz
He sent me numerous stamp bags of NO 4 Heroin ;)
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DELETE THE THREAD, DELETE THE NAMES, ILL REPOST, ILL CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT AND KEEP POSTING TILL THESE FUCKS CONTACT ME
NAMES THE MONEY SENT TO:
SURDER KUMAR
PARDEEP KUMAR
ANIL SHARMA
DELHI, INDIA
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AND JUST IN CASE SOMEONE MISSED THESE TRACKING NUMBERS HE GAVE ME THAT
ENDED UP IN DIFFERENT STATES OF USA. HE REALLY CARES ABOUT HIS CUSTOMERS
AND THEIR IDENTITY LEMMMEEE TELL YA
EH234403052IN
EH234402556IN
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Dis fuggin' thread, ey? FUHGEDDABOUDDIT.....
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I spoke with Pillpopperz the other day.
He said you did an off Silk Road deal through his associate in Spain and therefore isnt responsible. I would agree if thats the truth.
Again, I am not sure why this stuff is being posted on the Silk Road forum. You averted fees ( and therefore protection ) by going outside the Silk Road system.
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Got my package from PP in 6 days to UK - very impressed with service.
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AND JUST IN CASE SOMEONE MISSED THESE TRACKING NUMBERS HE GAVE ME THAT
ENDED UP IN DIFFERENT STATES OF USA. HE REALLY CARES ABOUT HIS CUSTOMERS
AND THEIR IDENTITY LEMMMEEE TELL YA
EH234403052IN
EH234402556IN
Don't use Western Union and expect Silk Road to care about you or support you retard.
Man up and fucking take the loss you caused to yourself by not following the rules. He probably did it do you on purpose because you didn't follow the rules and were so stupid you dropped $6k to him by Western fucking Union and then expected the SR community which uses Escrow services to mediate it's safety to cry a tear for you.
Stop bumping this ass thread up, stop threatening to make new threads, fuck you college kid piece of shit, you fucked up, suck it up like a fucking man.
I'd seriously consider stealing a $6k western union transfer from you on a silk road transaction where we don't use western union, we use escrow for protection just for being such an inept retard who is still consistently trying to get attention from this forum about the loss you caused yourself.
I supported you the first 2-3 pages of this thread, but you've since shown your true colours as an immature little prick who just can't get over that he fucked up and needs to learn the rules before he sends someone fucking six thousand dollars.
Jeez man you should be ashamed and embarassed rather then bumping and bumping this ass thread where we are all trolling you for being an idiot who sends $6k WU. I'll sell you my home with paypal if you want?
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AND JUST IN CASE SOMEONE MISSED THESE TRACKING NUMBERS HE GAVE ME THAT
ENDED UP IN DIFFERENT STATES OF USA. HE REALLY CARES ABOUT HIS CUSTOMERS
AND THEIR IDENTITY LEMMMEEE TELL YA
EH234403052IN
EH234402556IN
....I supported you the first 2-3 pages of this thread, but you've since shown your true colours as an immature little prick who just can't get over that he fucked up and needs to learn the rules before he sends someone fucking six thousand dollars.
learning by doing ! ;)
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There is a $2,500 US Dollars maximum limit set for remittances to India due to the regulations of the Reserve Bank of India
Interesting...
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There is a $2,500 US Dollars maximum limit set for remittances to India due to the regulations of the Reserve Bank of India
Interesting...
i think this deserves a law and order sound
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DUN DUN
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There is a $2,500 US Dollars maximum limit set for remittances to India due to the regulations of the Reserve Bank of India
Interesting...
i think this deserves a law and order sound
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DUN DUN
so basically this 6k story was all bullshit or what ???
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He listed 3 names ... break it up 2/2/2 I imagine.
Fuck this guy though lol.
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He listed 3 names ... break it up 2/2/2 I imagine.
Fuck this guy though lol.
Yeah sounds about right and exactly what they've done.
Fuck me I cannot believe the pure idiocy of this Mark guy. He fucking deserved to get robbed, if someone (that I don't know) sends me $6000 Western Union they're gonna robbed. Hardly hard to work out - I wouldn't send $100 by Western Union to a stranger.
Then he comes on here expecting for SR to help him out!!!
Behind the scenes (SR) 'they' must be laughing their heads off, with regards to this complete tool.
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He listed 3 names ... break it up 2/2/2 I imagine.
Fuck this guy though lol.
Yeah sounds about right and exactly what they've done.
Fuck me I cannot believe the pure idiocy of this Mark guy. He fucking deserved to get robbed, if someone (that I don't know) sends me $6000 Western Union they're gonna robbed. Hardly hard to work out - I wouldn't send $100 by Western Union to a stranger.
Then he comes on here expecting for SR to help him out!!!
Behind the scenes (SR) 'they' must be laughing their heads off, with regards to this complete tool.
there are people that tend to trust blindlessly right away..thats the good faith
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Fuck OP's attitude and whining.
I dont agree with the scam that happened here ... but PP says the OP dealt with an associate that isnt him. The deal was also done off SR. This is so far from SR's concern. If you want action from SR, pay their escrow fees and work in their system
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to send 6K to some dude you never met- that is fucked up no matter what they told or did for you. That is something you need to see in person and then ship it yourself. Hard lesson to learn, but fuck all if posting some most likely fake names they used on a forum is going to do anything for you. Suck it up and move on.
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I received my order prom PILL popperz so there is that.
Moral of the story: Stay within the confines of the system.
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Some people we work with recive product from PP recent. took 25-30 days but all was ok and everything good.
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Man up and fucking take the loss you caused to yourself by not following the rules. He probably did it do you on purpose because you didn't follow the rules and were so stupid you dropped $6k to him by Western fucking Union and then expected the SR community which uses Escrow services to mediate it's safety to cry a tear for you.
"he probably did it on purpose"
that is the dumbest fucking thing i've seen posted here, if he "did it on purpose" then he's a scammer and a cunt, no matter who else's orders got through fine. And you're a cunt if you think it's ok suggest that like it's normal.
And OP, sorry to hear about the scam, this shit really sucks. But releasing the Indian names is pointless, I used to buy K from the same factory over there and the names changed each time. They're fake.
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Yeah it does suck and pillpoppers is a dick for it and I would not buy from him coz of this
However WU names wont help and again as youve heard a million times u did a silly thing.
Hope you have better luck in future
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this thread is still going? =/
that's a lot of money to lose.. poor Indians.
/thumbs
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Man up and fucking take the loss you caused to yourself by not following the rules. He probably did it do you on purpose because you didn't follow the rules and were so stupid you dropped $6k to him by Western fucking Union and then expected the SR community which uses Escrow services to mediate it's safety to cry a tear for you.
"he probably did it on purpose"
that is the dumbest fucking thing i've seen posted here, if he "did it on purpose" then he's a scammer and a cunt, no matter who else's orders got through fine. And you're a cunt if you think it's ok suggest that like it's normal.
And OP, sorry to hear about the scam, this shit really sucks. But releasing the Indian names is pointless, I used to buy K from the same factory over there and the names changed each time. They're fake.
Doesn't matter what pillpopperz did now, OP doesn't follow the Silk Road rules, he shouldn't come to the Silk Road forum to complain about it.
He learned a herd lesson and maybe he'll RTFM before dropping $6k down, not spamming the names of fake Indian people.
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Some people we work with recive product from PP recent. took 25-30 days but all was ok and everything good.
I ordered from PP and it took 6 days to arrive to the UK.
From all my experiences PP is a great vendor :)
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After an initial mess up i eventually received a 60% re-ship from PP in under two weeks. I have no idea what happened to the first shipment since that had no tracking at all, but the re-ship had tracking and arrived promptly. As long as he uses that shipping system i really have no doubt he is conducting honest business with people that order from him within the silkroad environment.
Honestly i cannot see what goes on outside the SR system, and i don't want to choose sides in such conflicts.
I would, however, state that PP is a reliable seller if you order his goods withing the SR system, and this whole story doesn't change his reputation on transactions conducted within the SR (escrow) system at all.
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Is this scambag tiny PP still in business?
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He is, but i don't consider him a scammer at all.
If you look at his track record -within SR-, there is no reason to assume that ordering from PP would be a risky venture at all. Perhaps some small mistakes have been made, but eventually everyone got what they ordered, a refund, or settled their differences somehow, resulting in a very positive feedback rating for PP.
I'm not interested to hear whatever may have, or have not, happened when trading outside of the SR system. This simply does not concert anyone ordering within the SR system in any way. If he scammed people that placed orders within the SR system that would reflect badly on him through feedback scores, which is not the case at the moment.
If you were scammed outside the sr environment, i'm sorry for you, but that does not affect his reliability for orders processed within the system in any way.
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i dont believe you for one reason. your account is new. you have no credibility whatsoever. pill popperz has obvious credibility. how do we know your not just another vendor who is competition of pill popperz? if you did get scammed than i am truly sorry. but dont just come here with a brand new account, no credibility and no proof. than you throw accusations out about a seemingly good vendor? sorry, me and the community dont believe you unless you have proof.
If his original post is accurate, he has been trying for several days to clear this up with Pill Popperz. Seeing as how he has not yet received a response, what exactly would you suggest he do? I've seen lots of people report scams, only to get flamed by loyal customers who are convinced that Vendor X would NEVER do such a thing. Then a few weeks later they wind up getting burned when their favorite totally honest vendor fucks them over -- only to rinse, lather and repeat. (The name "tony76" ring any bells?)
couldnt of said it better myself
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He is, but i don't consider him a scammer at all.
If you look at his track record -within SR-, there is no reason to assume that ordering from PP would be a risky venture at all. Perhaps some small mistakes have been made, but eventually everyone got what they ordered, a refund, or settled their differences somehow, resulting in a very positive feedback rating for PP.
I'm not interested to hear whatever may have, or have not, happened when trading outside of the SR system. This simply does not concert anyone ordering within the SR system in any way. If he scammed people that placed orders within the SR system that would reflect badly on him through feedback scores, which is not the case at the moment.
If you were scammed outside the sr environment, i'm sorry for you, but that does not affect his reliability for orders processed within the system in any way.
A scammer is a scammer, period
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That is a matter of perspective.
If someone always fulfills their obligations with orders placed through SR, there is no reason to caution against this seller, since ordering through the SR system is apparently safe to do.
In case they pull a scam though the SR system (like not sending shipments, sending fakes, etc), this will be outed by negative feedback pretty quickly
As I see things, this forum is related to SR, and only scams that actually happen through SR are worth discussing here.
If any SR vendor screws you outside of the system, I feel sorry for you, but I don't think this forum is the proper places to discuss it, since it is simply not relevant for people that work within the silkroad context.
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That is a matter of perspective.
If someone always fulfills their obligations with orders placed through SR, there is no reason to caution against this seller, since ordering through the SR system is apparently safe to do.
In case they pull a scam though the SR system (like not sending shipments, sending fakes, etc), this will be outed by negative feedback pretty quickly
As I see things, this forum is related to SR, and only scams that actually happen through SR are worth discussing here.
If any SR vendor screws you outside of the system, I feel sorry for you, but I don't think this forum is the proper places to discuss it, since it is simply not relevant for people that work within the silkroad context.
No it's not a matter of perspective, a scammer is a scammer. Go look at a dictionary, PP would steal your or anyone's money in an instant if he felt it wouldn't hurt his business because he's a scammer. Of course escrow ability to leave feedback deters scamming but he's still a scammer. End of convo. Peace
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^ are the buyer stats in your sig real
edit: ps +1 because i think you're funny and i'm 99% sure you are super trolling the forums.
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any news on pp?
his stats seem ok, but all the talk of scamming and low potency meds made me suspicious
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i dont believe you for one reason. your account is new. you have no credibility whatsoever. pill popperz has obvious credibility. how do we know your not just another vendor who is competition of pill popperz? if you did get scammed than i am truly sorry. but dont just come here with a brand new account, no credibility and no proof. than you throw accusations out about a seemingly good vendor? sorry, me and the community dont believe you unless you have proof.
If his original post is accurate, he has been trying for several days to clear this up with Pill Popperz. Seeing as how he has not yet received a response, what exactly would you suggest he do? I've seen lots of people report scams, only to get flamed by loyal customers who are convinced that Vendor X would NEVER do such a thing. Then a few weeks later they wind up getting burned when their favorite totally honest vendor fucks them over -- only to rinse, lather and repeat. (The name "tony76" ring any bells?)
I agree....
Op is being civil. Only one thread. Pretty accurate as to details. The WU thing should be against SR rules ;)
hehe
I won't drone on about escrow. You know my position. And ripping SR out fees is disrespectful.
Now we wait for the vendor to respond. OP has offered to delete the thread.