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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: capealava on August 28, 2012, 07:27 am

Title: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: capealava on August 28, 2012, 07:27 am
My currency setting is on Thai Baht. I assume because I live in Thailand. The prices are coming all wrong it is obvious. Anyone know how to change currency setting in Silk Road.
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: grahamgreene on August 28, 2012, 11:47 am
Hi capealava,

The prices shown are actually in Bitcoin, which looks similar to the Thai Baht currency symbol. Go into your account settings and select "display prices in Dollars", then click update.

The prices around the site will be shown in USD, and the prices in your cart will be shown in Bitcoin, with a USD total beside the BTC total.
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: username100 on August 28, 2012, 11:59 am
See the link in my signature.
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: grahamgreene on August 28, 2012, 12:13 pm
See the link in my signature.

This is not the problem that this person is having; they are confused as to why the Thai Baht symbol is appearing, when it is in fact the Bitcoin symbol.
There is also no real need to implement extra currencies on the Road. I live in Europe, so I just check out the latest EUR/USD rate and divide my purchase by that (e.g. €1 = $1.25). In the case of a purchase worth $100, I divide that by 1.25 and come up with the Euro cost, which would be €80. It literally takes 2 seconds to do that, and eliminates the need for multiple currencies to be listed.
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: username100 on August 28, 2012, 02:00 pm
I don't have time to divide by 5 and multiply by 4 for every god damn listing, some of them dont go in evenly it's a pain in the ass you're a pain in the ass
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: Shroomeister on August 28, 2012, 02:12 pm
Thai Baht = ฿

Bitcoin = B⃦


...same, yet different.

Bitcoin knows it looks like the Baht, but cant seem to find anything better. :\

Here is the wiki article on it.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_symbol#Currency_code
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: k1k1 on August 28, 2012, 02:15 pm
Why not let display bitcoin price and multiple with the current rate to your currency, it's a easy way :)
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: grahamgreene on August 28, 2012, 02:36 pm
I don't have time to divide by 5 and multiply by 4 for every god damn listing, some of them dont go in evenly it's a pain in the ass you're a pain in the ass

Nice mature response there to somebody who's telling you an easy way to get the cost in your own currency.
You don't have to do it "for every god damn listing", you only have to do it for the ones you're interested in. Add them to your cart, add the shipping, divide the total by your currency exchange rate and you have the exact amount it'll cost you in your currency. I have no idea why you'd by multiplying be 4?  ???
Anyway, if you can't take the 2 seconds to divide the amount shown in USD by your currency exchange rate then perhaps you need to re-organise things to give you an extra 3 - 4 minutes in your day.  ???
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: username100 on August 28, 2012, 04:05 pm
You might wanna go back to school since you don't know the difference between 1/5 and 4/5. And yes I do have to do it for every god damn listing because how else am I supposed to know which ones I'm interested in if I don't nkow the price?
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on August 28, 2012, 04:19 pm
You might wanna go back to school since you don't know the difference between 1/5 and 4/5. And yes I do have to do it for every god damn listing because how else am I supposed to know which ones I'm interested in if I don't nkow the price?
I'm with you on this one.
The argument against having extra currencies is like saying "why make are lives easier?".
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: grahamgreene on August 28, 2012, 04:45 pm
You might wanna go back to school since you don't know the difference between 1/5 and 4/5.

No need to throw insults around based on an incorrect understanding of what I'm saying, username100. It just makes you look foolish.
I'll lay it out simply, and spaced, so as it's not too taxing for you to follow.

If your currency is the Euro, for example, and you wish to see how much a product costing ฿70 is in Euro:

Your product costs ฿70 ($763.245 at $10.9035 per Bitcoin) - the part in parenthesis is shown after the total in your cart.
(If you have more than one item in the cart, you can of course just multiply the number of Bitcoin it costs by the $XX.XXXX per Bitcoin, then divide that number by your currency exchange rate; however, I fear I may be losing you here so I'll get back to the issue we were discussing.)

The current EUR/USD rate is €1  :  $1.2567 (you can check this on Google Finance any time of the day, and it will vary.)

Given that you now know the exchange rate, you divide $763.245 (the total cost of your product in USD) by 1.2567 (the current exchange rate of EUR/USD) and you get 607.340654094, or 607.34. That is the total cost, in Euro, of the product.
Just to clarify, this means that your product costs €607.34 in Euro.

If you were to multiply it by 4, as you seem to think is necessary, you'd then get €2429.36 which would indicate that your basic math skills aren't up to scratch and your time insulting people might be better spent reading up on how to divide correctly. I see you think there's a need to divide things into fifths for some reason, which there's not. You then think you need to multiply it by 4 to get four-fifths, which again puzzles me.

As for the following:
And yes I do have to do it for every god damn listing because how else am I supposed to know which ones I'm interested in if I don't nkow the price?

If you see one listing for ฿70 - having worked out how much that is in your currency - you'll have a general idea of the price of things that cost more or less than ฿70.

OR (and this might sound REALLY crazy!!) you could do what most people do and set the product prices to be shown in USD rather than Bitcoin.
Once you see a price - in Dollars - for something you're interested in, all you need to do is divide it by 1.2567 (assuming Euro is the currency you want to use) and there you have it, your price in Euro. This takes all of 2 seconds on a calculator. Most phones have one, if you can't get your hands on an actual physical calculator.

You can also safely assume that a listing which is valued at a lower dollar amount is actually cheaper than the previous listing you're comparing it to.

If you wish to apologise for insulting me simply because you failed to understand something, feel free to do so. If you don't wish to do so, that's alright too, we can still be the best of friends.  :-*

- grahamgreene
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: grahamgreene on August 28, 2012, 04:48 pm
I'm with you on this one.
The argument against having extra currencies is like saying "why make are lives easier?".

I'm not arguing against having extra currencies - it'd be great and would save me 2 seconds each time I want to get the price in my own currency. I'm simply saying that it's not in any way difficult to find out the price in your own currency. I mean it literally takes 2 seconds on a calculator.
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: username100 on August 28, 2012, 04:54 pm
my god you are stupid

1/1.25 = 4/5

dumbass

how can you write so much and say so little?
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: grahamgreene on August 28, 2012, 05:12 pm
my god you are stupid

1/1.25 = 4/5

dumbass

how can you write so much and say so little?

The price is CURRENTLY €1  :  $1.25. What happens when the price is €1  :  $1.15? Or €1  :  $1.1373?
You can then no longer just divide by 5 and multiply by 4. Which is why you need to divide by your currency exchange rate. Oh, and tailored more to your own currency, the current GBP to USD rate is £1  :  $1.5827 so you'll need to divide the USD amount that you see by that number instead.
Again, no need for insults just because you don't understand something. If you were polite about it I wouldn't have felt the desire to be so condescending.
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: username100 on August 28, 2012, 06:01 pm
Alright, whatever dude. I didn't understand.
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on August 28, 2012, 06:02 pm
I'm with you on this one.
The argument against having extra currencies is like saying "why make are lives easier?".

I'm not arguing against having extra currencies - it'd be great and would save me 2 seconds each time I want to get the price in my own currency. I'm simply saying that it's not in any way difficult to find out the price in your own currency. I mean it literally takes 2 seconds on a calculator.
No, you've misunderstood me...

I'm with you on this, I'm in agreement, there should be extra currencies. :)

The people who are arguing against you are saying "Why not just calculate it yourself?". It's like people who say "Don't use a SatNav. Just use a map", or "Don't use a calculator. Work it out in your head"! If any of that is true, then why do anything to make our lives easier.
Finding ways to make our lives easier is called progress. Otherwise we'd still be getting up off our sofas to change the channel with a button on the TV!
 
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: grahamgreene on August 28, 2012, 06:04 pm
What do I not understand? Teach me.


Are you sure it's not you that doesn't understand? I said divide by 5 and multiply by 4. You thought I said "divide by 5 or multiply by 4". From your posts you don't understand what the word and means. Maybe English isn't your first language, if so I apologise for putting you down.

I've already stated what you're not understanding:

Quote from: grahamgreene
The price is CURRENTLY €1  :  $1.25. What happens when the price is €1  :  $1.15? Or €1  :  $1.1373?
You can then no longer just divide by 5 and multiply by 4. Which is why you need to divide by your currency exchange rate. Oh, and tailored more to your own currency, the current GBP to USD rate is £1  :  $1.5827 so you'll need to divide the USD amount that you see by that number instead.

Dividing by 5 and multiplying by 4 worked only because the EUR/USD rate was €1.00 : $1.25.
However, illustrating my point, it is now €1.00 : $1.2564.

Dividing 1.2564 by 5, and multiplying it by 4 (your method) now makes every $1.25 worth €1.00512, which invalidates your method for getting the price in your own currency as the number you come up with will be off. Should the exchange rate drop back down to €1.00 : $1.18 tomorrow, your method will make every $1.25 worth €0.944, again giving you the wrong figure in your currency.

Therefore the ONLY method you can use to give you an exact figure in your own currency is by dividing the listing price by your current currency exchange rate. You cannot divide by 5 and multiply by 4 to get the rate in your currency, unless the rate is at exactly €1/£1 : $1.25.
I literally cannot make it any simpler than that.

If you can point out to me where I stated that I thought you said "divide by 5 or multiply by 4" that would be great. If you can't, I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth, thank you very much.
Either way, you can't just divide the number by 5 and multiply it by 4 as that would give you an inaccurate amount. I'm trying to help you out here, there's no need to be so ratty.
I'll use a GBP example.

Your product costs ฿70 ($759.157 at $10.8451 per Bitcoin)

The current GBP : USD exchange rate is £1 : $1.5827.

Using your method, dividing the product cost by 5 and multiplying the result by 4 = £607.3256

The ACTUAL cost of the product in GBP, found by dividing the USD amount by the GBP exchange rate = £479.6594

With your method, you overestimate the price by £127.6662
Are you STILL maintaining that your method is correct?!  :o
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on August 28, 2012, 06:13 pm
Great! One of you is better at maths than the other one! ::)
Graham if you're correct and username100 has got his maths wrong, then haven't you proved his point, that his life would be made easier if he didn't have to convert the currencies in his head! If Silk Road did it for us then there would be no human error. :)
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: grahamgreene on August 28, 2012, 06:16 pm
Alright, whatever dude. I didn't understand.

Ah, and unsurprisingly, no apology for the insults leveled at me. Meh.

Quote from: ZenAndTheArt
No, you've misunderstood me...

I'm with you on this, I'm in agreement, there should be extra currencies. :)

The people who are arguing against you are saying "Why not just calculate it yourself?". It's like people who say "Don't use a SatNav. Just use a map", or "Don't use a calculator. Work it out in your head"! If any of that is true, then why do anything to make our lives easier.
Finding ways to make our lives easier is called progress. Otherwise we'd still be getting up off our sofas to change the channel with a button on the TV!

I'm the one that's saying you can just calculate it yourself!  :P
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: grahamgreene on August 28, 2012, 06:46 pm
Great! One of you is better at maths than the other one! ::)
Graham if you're correct and username100 has got his maths wrong, then haven't you proved his point, that his life would be made easier if he didn't have to convert the currencies in his head! If Silk Road did it for us then there would be no human error. :)

It's not about one being better at maths than the other (I'm actually TERRIBLE at maths for what it's worth), it's about showing a system that one can easily use to find the price of something in their own currency, which is what I was demonstrating. It would of course be easier if we didn't have to convert the currencies ourselves, but it does take very little time using a calculator.
We're using a revolutionary site, one which enables us to buy drugs over the internet from the comfort of our own homes. We don't currently have a multiple currency option, so I provided the most simple way of finding the price in your local currency. There's obviously a reason that this hasn't been implemented yet despite the huge demand for it, as there was plenty of scope to do so during the recent site re-design. I can only assume the reason for this is because of a potential security risk, as that's the reason the BTC/USD rate was removed from the main site in the first place.

I'm all for a multiple currency option though, don't get me wrong! As for the script written by one of the new members here, if any of you are going to use that I'd advise you to look through the code very thoroughly before implementing it.
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on August 28, 2012, 06:48 pm
I'm the one that's saying you can just calculate it yourself!  :P
Woops! I mistook a post from you Graham, to be one from username100. Doh! :-[
I should get my eye's tested, or at least stop taking drugs that I bought on-line! :o
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: Shroomeister on August 28, 2012, 06:57 pm
WEll you guys have all managed one thing......to steal this OPs thread right out from under him in no time.  :o
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: grahamgreene on August 28, 2012, 07:01 pm
Woops! I mistook a post from you Graham, to be one from username100. Doh! :-[
I should get my eye's tested, or at least stop taking drugs that I bought on-line! :o

Or maybe just take MORE drugs..? It mightn't fix the problem but it'd probably be a lot more fun!  :P
Title: Re: Currenct setting Silk Road
Post by: grahamgreene on August 28, 2012, 07:03 pm
WEll you guys have all managed one thing......to steal this OPs thread right out from under him in no time.  :o

"Boy that escalated quickly. I mean that really got outta hand fast!"  :o

I did answer the OP in my first post on the thread though, so I don't feel like a total thread derailer.  :P