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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: tropicbabezz on July 29, 2012, 05:09 pm
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you folks seen afghans profile? it says he got busted but his 'friends' have taken over. someone was last on 'today'
can any experienced SR heads here got any advice on this situation??
swim may have sent him a few btc directly to get a sampl of mth just 2-3 days ago and now this has happened!!
.( encryptd details sent thru pm.)!!!
if LE has taken control of his account then any orders being sent out would be control packages.
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i had also placed an order and whoever runs that account now has my address.
i gonna go crap my pants now
anyone got any advice?
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Get to crapping the law has your info now!.......That is if the a fore mentioned info is true. Could be frontier gibberish tweaker drama.
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stop worrying, i have spoken to him today, all is fine
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If cops took his account they wouldnt post anything and continue business as usual...why tip anyone off??
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i was talking to him earlier, definitely him, stop worrying
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How can you verify it was him, were you using pgp?
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His pgp key changed three times in the last 36 hours
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How would LE have access to his SR account? Surely no half competent vendor would just hand over there account with evidence of all the sales on it just like that? Like literally just giving away the evidence (or further evidence) of him selling drugs, resulting in him being put behind bars...
Or just leave the website open constantly for anyone to see on his PC if he were to have been raided. Just seems stupid to me.
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Time to move your family into the woods bro.
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then they replied saying,( a bit defensively) that how can they give me a refund if i dont want to give them my adress again....
They sent you an order? If not, that's a bullshit, and they have to give you 100% refund minus SR commission if any.
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edited.
thanks peoples;-)
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i was talking to afgan himself, not any of his friends and i actually made an order from him which arrived yesterday, he has now updated his page explaining what happened and that he is back again
order with confidence from him once again.
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Yes... Come on bedwetters! AA's sound... I've been in touch too, it's fine!
I only deal with AA himself and have done since he was first here! I've spoken with him today!!
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same here, ive been dealing with him since he started on SR and he is one of the best vendors on silk.
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cool thankyou Sara and Diskoking23.
i knew afghan had a good rep, and when i was commncting with him, he was real nice so im sure ill be able to sort out with him.
i only wish he can confirm my order via my profile name and not need my addrss again. oh well ill see wat hapens
ill have a chat with him.
;-);-)
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i can guarantee you two things.
1. he is not a scammer.
2. there isn't an LE on the planet that can impersonate him.
you asked sara how she knew it was him.... well, you've talked to him. unless he talks to you differently i can't imagine someone trying to write like him successfully.
ha. love that dude.
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AA here boys and girls
First of all a HUGE THANK YOU TO
Prof T
DK
SARA
To see the 3 of you defending me during my time of need measns so much more to me than i could ever describe in words.
I must clear up any confusion. AA was arressted for a totally seperate issue, no computers were taken no search of my property made (thank god).....
In the UK you cannot defend your family, once you throw one punch too many you become the aggressor and the punk who started the trouble was the one who called the cops..
WEll all charges have been dropped....BUT HIS NOSE IS STILL BROKEN...HAHAHA.....
To the guy who has not received his order, please pm my vendor account, I have 1 item in the resolution centre (0.4 shards) is that yours? I did my best to catch up on missing orders as soon as the pigs let me out but it is possible that 1 or 2 may have slipped through the net
IF THEY DID IT WAS NOT ON PURPOSE
I would like to especially thank Prof T for assuring peeps I AM NOT NOR NEVER WILL BE A SCAMMER
WE ON THE SAME TEAM PEOPLE
I LOVE YOU ALL
AA
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Hahaha, im glad you posted. I orderd today regardless, you aint never stitched me, quite the reverse. ....
Im quite looking forward to my pharma grade morphine :D:D:D
Stay safe and i hope the nose aint to bad !
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I'd still be skeptical. Having a number of posts on a forum doesn't make you trustworthy, or a longtime member.
If he was busted, he's getting right back into things pretty quickly, no?
I don't mean to hurt any legitimate business, but I think folks should take it slow after something like this.
Or in other words, sketchy as fuck.
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trust me now, from talking to him and messages he has sent me, its deffo him, with out doubt. Have ne fear !! AA is here hahaha+
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you guys need to chill out .. if someone got busted its encrypted and fucking AA man that dood would go down before seting up silk road, this is his comunity and he rules it .. why u think he never needed a forum name :)
hope your well m8, hit me back
peace
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I agree with that ^^^ also in the UK if a copper were to get hold of AA's account and sell things from it. The people who were sold to could not be busted because entrapment is illegal here.
The police here can not set up stings.
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lol, it is definitely AA, i have had a load more orders since then and we were talking and he knew things that we had talked about before, so if it wasnt him, then whoever it is must be able to read minds, lol
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got to love the scare mongering on here. Next thing will be he was arrested for terrorism lololol.
Power to AA's elbow !!
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got to love the scare mongering on here. Next thing will be he was arrested for terrorism lololol.
Power to AA's elbow !!
Skunky, ::) i wasnt scaremongering ...no agenda here.
it was just bad timing. i wasnt expcting that the first fucking time i send funds outside of listings for an overseas vendor, that the transaction would be interrupted by a fucken arrest.
.i admit to my paranoia at the start of it all. have modified posts accordingly.
they have been in contact past 24 hours to assure resolution.
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Skunky, ::) i wasnt scaremongering ...no agenda here.
it was just bad timing. i wasnt expcting that the first fucking time i send funds outside of listings for an overseas vendor, that the transaction would be interrupted by a fucken arrest.
.i admit to my paranoia at the start of it all. have modified posts accordingly.
they have been in contact past 24 hours to assure resolution.
Don't mean to kick up a fuss, but unless I missed the memo, sending money out of escrow even for samples isn't allowed these days.
SR deserves it's cut, whether it be $0.05 or $5000.
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Skunky, ::) i wasnt scaremongering ...no agenda here.
it was just bad timing. i wasnt expcting that the first fucking time i send funds outside of listings for an overseas vendor, that the transaction would be interrupted by a fucken arrest.
.i admit to my paranoia at the start of it all. have modified posts accordingly.
they have been in contact past 24 hours to assure resolution.
Don't mean to kick up a fuss, but unless I missed the memo, sending money out of escrow even for samples isn't allowed these days.
SR deserves it's cut, whether it be $0.05 or $5000.
i understand that and point taken. but i assure you, that only happend with AA, because id just missed his listing by a few hours , so after messaging him saying that ill happily wait until next time they restock, he replied immediately and told me if i quickly send details and funds thatd he would give me gear from his perso stash 2 help me out. so my order could be squeezed in and shipped out at the end of that day.
i didnt join SR to rip off the geniuses who set it up and run it.
looking around and hearing from vendors and buyers, ive noticed there is also always gonna be inevitable transactions outside listings between customers and vendors , especially those who have long standing relationships. transactions that in fact can assist that vendor in maintaning their business/stock turnaround/profit, which in turn feeds back into this marvelous SR organization via commision and by drawing in more customers through generous service.
as u can see, im only starting up as a buyer, so i take your point and urge others to stick to transactions through listings.
Id rather be kicking up a fuss about the fucking scumbag arrogant wannabe heavyweight vendors who ask people to FE with no intention of providing the goods. blatant,' gimme your money, there will be nothing sent, thank you, come again....'
.or those who abuse the 50% refund system by mining newbies for their cash.
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i understand that and point taken. but i assure you, that only happend with AA, because id just missed his listing by a few hours , so after messaging him saying that ill happily wait until next time they restock, he replied immediately and told me if i quickly send details and funds thatd he would give me gear from his perso stash 2 help me out. so my order could be squeezed in and shipped out at the end of that day.
i didnt join SR to rip off the geniuses who set it up and run it.
looking around and hearing from vendors and buyers, ive noticed there is also always gonna be inevitable transactions outside listings between customers and vendors , especially those who have long standing relationships. transactions that in fact can assist that vendor in maintaning their business/stock turnaround/profit, which in turn feeds back into this marvelous SR organization via commision and by drawing in more customers through generous service.
as u can see, im only starting up as a buyer, so i take your point and urge others to stick to transactions through listings.
Id rather be kicking up a fuss about the fucking scumbag arrogant wannabe heavyweight vendors who ask people to FE with no intention of providing the goods. blatant,' gimme your money, there will be nothing sent, thank you, come again....'
.or those who abuse the 50% refund system by mining newbies for their cash.
I get you, and far-be-it from me to be the morality police around here or anything, but technically a custom listing should've been set up for the sample rather than an out of escrow transaction. It's only fair.
Not entirely sure where you've been looking (perhaps at older threads when OOE was permitted), but transactions out of escrow between vendors and buyers are incredibly rare, mainly due to the fact that if a vendor conducts him/herself in that manner, their selling privileges will be revoked immediately and they'll have to start from scratch with a new vending account with 0 feedback.
A long standing relationship between a vendor and buyer doesn't need OOE, as the buyer can simply finalise early after a short time period has elapsed. These systems have all been put in place to protect the buyer after scams etc., they're not just to protect SR's cut of transactions. A vendor who needs OOE to run their business isn't managing their money correctly. SR provides a "cash advance" system, for a small fee, for vendor's who need to restock etc. based on expected payments from recent transactions.
I'd advise you (and all newer members) to read the, the Buyer's Guide (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/buyers_guide), the Seller's Guide (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/sellers_guide) AND the wiki (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php/Main_Page) in order to familiarise yourselves with the systems in place, and to learn why OOE isn't necessary.
If you're a relatively new buyer here then first of all: Welcome! I hope you have a fruitful time here on the Road. :)
But being new, you won't have had as much experience with scams and rogue vendors as some of us - the forums are littered with threads where you can read up on these, especially from before OOE transactions were outlawed.
As for the "fucking scumbag arrogant wannabe heavyweight vendors who ask people to FE with no intention of providing the goods", FE is not a necessity. If your vendor requires it, you're free to use a different vendor that doesn't. Vendors with less than 35 transactions and who have been on the site for less than a month are actually forbidden from asking for early finalisation, so the system that's been put in place for buyer protection shouldn't be tossed aside, and if it weren't, most of those types of scams could be avoided.
FE is not recommended for anybody, regardless of relationship with the vendor.
As a testament to how well the system works, I've made 38 transactions so far in the past 10 months, with a value of $8065 - I have 0 refunds, and have yet to fall victim to a scam. You have to pick and choose your vendors based on their reviews in the forums, feedback, communication, and basic gut feeling.
It's up to the buyer whether or not they want to finalise early. If they want to do so, against all advice and reason, they're free to once the vendor reaches the necessary level to ask for it. BUT it's the buyer's own fault if they lose money in doing so.
Regarding the "50% refund system", you agree to the terms set out by your vendor before you purchase the item from them; this includes agreeing to their refund policy. The SR resolution system is also in place to force a resolution should a satisfactory agreement not be forthcoming.
However, FE and OOE transactions are outside the scope of the resolution system, which again is in place to protect the buyer from the scenario mentioned above.
(Sorry if this all sounds a bit "aggro", I'm just too tired to put it more eloquently. And now, sleeeeeeep!)
- grahamgreene
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FE is not a necessity. If your vendor requires it, you're free to use a different vendor that doesn't.
i dont have a problem with concept of FE ;) when vendors require it.
ive already FE with a few vendors because they were reputable ;D
i was just ranting about the smart asses who have a solid customer base, who then choose to selectively scam people.
Regarding the "50% refund system", you agree to the terms set out by your vendor before you purchase the item from them; this includes agreeing to their refund policy.
i wasnt complaining against the vendor having that particular refund policy, i was referring to the folk who use policy, in order to make quick bucks by selectively duping a handful of new customers all over the globe, by tricking a customer into buying, then they dont send anything,
then say that if it doesnt arrive they will refund half the money..
get half the money for a product from each of those buyers. which all adds up when you do small amounts here and there to buyers with not enough rep to complain...thats all i meant.
anyway enough staunchness..such a small thing has been blown out of proportion.
Graham im on board with where you're coming from and i appreciate the welcome ;D ;D
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ive already FE with a few vendors because they were reputable ;D
Tony76 was the most reputable seller here when he pulled off THE biggest scam in SR's short history. He got away with between $100,000 and $250,000. He would've gotten away with $0 if people hadn't FE'd (from SR - his own site didn't have an escrow system.)
I guess I'm just trying to say be careful. At the end of the day essentially what you're doing when you FE is giving your money to a completely anonymous person over the internet with no recourse. Madness! Sparta!
anyway enough staunchness..such a small thing has been blown out of proportion.
Graham im on board with where you're coming from and i appreciate the welcome ;D ;D
Indeed! Hooray for late-night drivel! :P Apologies for getting a tad carried away haha.
Best of luck in your future endeavours. :)
- grahamgreene
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I agree with that ^^^ also in the UK if a copper were to get hold of AA's account and sell things from it. The people who were sold to could not be busted because entrapment is illegal here.
The police here can not set up stings.
That's not right mate. The evidence may be thrown out of court if they go too far but if they set up the sting carefully they can get away with it.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200102/ldjudgmt/jd011025/loose-1.htm
Paragraphs 19 to 29 ramble on about the difference between good work copper and abuse of power pig. Parts of 21 and 23 are key.
If the defendant already had the intent to commit a crime of the same or a similar kind, then the police did no more than give him the opportunity to fulfil his existing intent. This is unobjectionable. If the defendant was already presently disposed to commit such a crime, should opportunity arise, that is not entrapment.
Uh oh, my purchasing stats are full of existing intent.
a useful guide is to consider whether the police did no more than present the defendant with an unexceptional opportunity to commit a crime. I emphasise the word unexceptional. <blah and more blah>. Police conduct of this nature is not to be regarded as inciting or instigating crime, or luring a person into committing a crime.
In my defence m'lord I'm easily lured.
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i placed an order with AA a few days ago, and he hasn't marked it in transit or even read my PM about it... has anyone heard from AA? his vendor profile says he was last seen today...?