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Title: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: pleaseturnonthefan on July 17, 2012, 11:58 pm
I just completed a loan transaction with Thaistick from his listing. Vendor was very professional and responsive. He returned my loan with interest on the day it was due without any problems. Thanks!
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: Skunky on August 02, 2012, 09:52 pm
Im glad to here this as im currently loaning to him. I will update the out come in a few days.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: psychedelicmind on August 02, 2012, 10:58 pm
Interested in this offer. Gonna wait for a few more positive responses!
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: Electrofermion on August 06, 2012, 09:34 pm
He pays back as promised, albeit four days late.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: TheHermes on August 15, 2012, 02:22 pm
There appeared to be some problems with the payments.

Despite the first interests came in (with full amount, inital loan was prolonged),
now he is due with the payments on 1 cycle (7 days).

Will be 2 outstanding interest payments with tommorow evening.

Communication was good at first (he tried to explain everything, announced it on his profile page),
but now he refused to read messages which were sent to him.

I hope this will end well, but i am afraid there are dark clouds coming up the horizon ...
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: Skunky on August 15, 2012, 08:37 pm
Same here, dont get down about  it. He meassaged me earlier stating that everything should be resolved in 24 hours. I to have money tied up for over 2 weeks, yesterday my head fell apart because of it. I seriously need the money badly, i have a habbit i cant afford and im taking out on my loved ones all because the payment date keeps moving forward. Its not fair on them or me.

I hope everything is sorted within 24 hours as he said.
 
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: Electrofermion on August 17, 2012, 01:37 am
I managed to make a profit out of this ponzi. I got screwed 70 BTC with Kataman, though.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=31905.30

Luckily I don't have a family that will suffer from these scammers!
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: pushkin on August 17, 2012, 08:45 am
he had to pay me a week ago, but he still don't do it
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: Skunky on August 17, 2012, 10:29 am
I have been paid. It was late by just over a week. But as he had lived up to his word. All you people who were in the same boat as me and thought you were not going to get you money back, i seriously belive you will.
I know its hard, but try to be patient, imagine the amount of grief people are giving the man lol me included. Im not his friend or anything, im just someon who got involved in this loan buisness and thought i was gonna get robbed lolol.

give him time and he WILL pay.

I hope this helps.

Skunky
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: TheHermes on August 19, 2012, 11:14 am
Didn't received any payment, 2 rates are outstanding now.

However he sent me a message on Friday, announcing that he
will arrange everything asap.

His profile page got an update as well, declaring an
estimated payout date of Monday / Tuesday evening.

I hope he didn't embezzled our money to the pirate (or stuff like that)
and hope's he will get payed back.

So I'm in standy position again .... hope there will be at least a compensation  :-\
(if things are working out)
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: binzen on August 20, 2012, 04:01 pm
I have had 2 successful loan repayments from Thaistick in the past. 1 on time and 1 which was 1 day early.

Unfortunately I now have 2 outstanding.

1 is 10 days late
1 is 5 days late

Will update if I am paid.  Very disappointing.  He has not read my last email in 2 days.

 I've just sent another message from a new account and will update if he reads it.

UPDATE:

He just sent me this message.  My account balance is still $2.61

-----

Crap - pretty sure I sent it. Will contact SR support (not doubting, just pretty sure I pressed send and it said okay.)
Total was for $1k right?

-----

UPDATE:

He just sent me this to a 2nd account I created:

--------------------

   Literally just waiting for my MTGOX to finish my deposit.

-------
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: binzen on August 26, 2012, 05:31 pm
well.. his listings have disappeared and he hasn't been online in 3 days.. I think we are done folks..
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: sargek on August 27, 2012, 06:32 am
I suck at life. I get screwed over so easily.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: johnmtl on August 27, 2012, 06:50 am
Mannnn.. I'm sorry yall got screwed.. it happens like that in ponzi scams..

I will soon be selling all kinds of products on SR.... Mostly weed  and hash tho....but i will have an investment opportunity for you guys soon..one where you wont lose any money!!!

pm me for more info

Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: grahamgreene on August 27, 2012, 10:51 am
Mannnn.. I'm sorry yall got screwed.. it happens like that in ponzi scams..

I will soon be selling all kinds of products on SR.... Mostly weed  and hash tho....but i will have an investment opportunity for you guys soon..one where you wont lose any money!!!

pm me for more info

This guy somehow managed to get scammed by MtGix (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=38666.msg433861#msg433861) - yes, the same MtGix that has been incessantly spamming the forums here, and the same MtGix whose site literally LOOKS like a scam site. The same MtGix whose "About Us" section has them referring to themselves as "MtGAX", which should immediately set alarm bells ringing.

I'll bet $1000 / the equivalent in Bitcoin that any money "invested" by a person who is so easily scammed out of $49 (I mean seriously, MtGix!!) will never be seen again.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: 3gr2k on August 27, 2012, 11:03 am
da hell with mtgix scam site well knowledge
thaistick bleh do not loan guys come on wtf
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: johnmtl on August 27, 2012, 03:31 pm
to each is own graham.....

No one asked you what you think about my offer.. and just because I'm new to this and lost a few bucks does not mean I am out here to scam people.

just you wait and see
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: grahamgreene on August 27, 2012, 03:57 pm
to each is own graham.....

No one asked you what you think about my offer.. and just because I'm new to this and lost a few bucks does not mean I am out here to scam people.

just you wait and see

You're right; I just felt like chiming in.  ;)
Can you point out where I said you were "out here to scam people" please? If you can't, I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth, thank you very much.

I said that anyone "investing" with someone who can so easily lose $49 of his own money will never see their money again. This is not a wild assumption.
One can logically deduce from your actions that you're quite easily led / naive, therefore susceptible to being scammed yourself. Any money that people "invest" with you would likely be put into something that looks too good to be true, just like Mt.Gix (incredibly low prices, accept virtually all payment methods etc.), and would therefore be lost. It's also psychologically easier to gamble with other's money than your own, and seeing as you so easily lost your own, I don't think I'm being entirely unreasonable here.
Add to that your lack of situational awareness (one can assume this deficiency as a result of the fact that Mt.Gix has been constantly spamming these forums and you failed to consider it a scam, and failed to notice others doing so), your lack of due diligence when sending money to an anonymous entity (you didn't even read their "About Us" page, and if you did, you didn't think it odd that a company calling itself "Mt.Gix" would refer to itself twice as "Mt.GAX"), nor did you even do a Google search which would have turned up numerous sources that decry them as scammers.

So I stand by my initial statement, and initial wager:
Quote from: grahamgreene
I'll bet $1000 / the equivalent in Bitcoin that any money "invested" by a person who is so easily scammed out of $49 (I mean seriously, MtGix!!) will never be seen again.

As you requested, I'll "wait and see", but it'll be for how many people lose their money.

- grahamgreene
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: johnmtl on August 27, 2012, 05:10 pm
listen dude... it was 4 am I was up all day and night smoking the best weed you could imagine.

I made a mistake, it happens to the best of us, no one is perfect and I promise you others have been scammed by MtGix.

Now... In regards to the offer of investment that I will be making is directly linked  to the business I have been running for years

the green smoke business

As long as there are buyers on here I can offer people a nice investment opportunity. (ROI of 15% min)

anyways.. I appreciate your thoughts and welcome your ideas but please keep in mind. NOT EVEN YOU ARE PERFECT!


Have an awesome day!




Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: grahamgreene on August 27, 2012, 06:20 pm
listen dude... it was 4 am I was up all day and night smoking the best weed you could imagine.

I made a mistake, it happens to the best of us, no one is perfect and I promise you others have been scammed by MtGix.

Now... In regards to the offer of investment that I will be making is directly linked  to the business I have been running for years

the green smoke business

As long as there are buyers on here I can offer people a nice investment opportunity. (ROI of 15% min)

anyways.. I appreciate your thoughts and welcome your ideas but please keep in mind. NOT EVEN YOU ARE PERFECT!


Have an awesome day!

Mistakes do indeed happen to the best of us, and I'm sure others have indeed been scammed by Mt.Gix. However, I was simply advising people to be wary of giving you any money for the purpose of "investing", whether that be in a Bitcoin Ponzi like pirateat40 recently ran or by loaning you money in order to allow you to buy weed in larger amounts and paying them back out of the profit from the saving you'd make by doing so. You would also have to do all this from a vendor's account, which you do not have.

Loaning vendors money for this purpose and others has recently shown itself to be a very bad idea, and with good reason. It involves people going out of escrow with quite significant amounts of Bitcoin, which is the number one reason people get scammed by vendors here.

I have no intention of labeling myself as perfect; we all have our flaws, I've made as many mistakes in my time in 'the business' as anyone, but I feel it's only right for others to be aware of your previous loss. I wish you the best in your travels here on the Road, but would advise you not to risk other people's money at any time, and would advise them not to put themselves into a position where they can easily lose it.

- grahamgreene
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: sargek on August 28, 2012, 03:33 am
Well he responded to my message saying it is well overdue. I know for a fact for MtGox to transfer large amounts of money to a bank it takes awhile
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: Sharp50 on August 29, 2012, 05:50 pm
Does anyone else find it odd that someone just placed a loan with ThaiStick in the last 24 hrs?  Clearly no one has been repaid in the last couple of weeks.  It doesn't make sense. 
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: TheHermes on August 31, 2012, 11:14 am
Maybe someone just ignores / isn't aware of other experiences / the forum.

Bad tongues would call it a "friend" who improves the overall rating of his loans.

After all, 3 more days of inactivity, 1 more outstanding interest payment ...
and his account is in vacation mode again.

Haha, it's an up-and-down after all .... who takes bets ?  ???
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: over_done_soup on August 31, 2012, 10:25 pm
Is this signs of a conscious, thaistick was not a scammer he ran a ponzi that unfortunately dried up quick, but that leaves more loosers than winners with regards to financial gains.

has anyone reported this to SR admin, im surprised that his vendor rights are still active after this  :o

Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: edar on September 01, 2012, 12:37 am
another day , another scheme :o
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: ThaiStick on September 06, 2012, 11:15 am
Firstly thank you TheHermes, a kind member who notified and directed me to this thread.

I understand that you may all think I'm running a Ponzi scheme and with the ROI I'm offering I can understand why. However this is far from the truth. I don't really want to go into my business model but if that's what it takes to prove I am legit then I will by all means post  & explain how my business model works. It's far from a Ponzi scheme.

Secondly - yes there have been some issue and I won't even begin to deny that. A good % of my business / repayment comes from my weed sales. I had originally started by not asking people to finalize early on my weed sales and it seemed to go okay but ALOT of the people weren't finalizing even a week after the product was delivered. Many also waited the full 17 days. This caused a lot of back log issues, me not being able to access the majority of my funds meant that I couldn't;

A) Repay the investors.
B) Buy more from my supplier in order to carry on sales.

Thirdly - a lot of people assume just because I don't log in every day that I'm a scammer. This is not true. My work schedule along with personal commitments means sometimes I have to be away from my machine - this has happened about 3 times in my whole time being a vendor. I think that's a pretty good rate. The first thing I do is update my homepage so if I ever have to rush back out and can't answer messages people are kept up to date.

Fourthly - regarding the current issue. I recently made a few large transfers that totaled to almost $20K USD. The transfer was made from an UK bank to MTGOX. It still hasn't arrived in their bank account. I've been on the phone to them for the last few weeks and I keep on getting pushed around. Firstly I was told to wait a week for it to process as they said it can take 2-5 days. By now it had already been 4 days but I was still told to wait another week. After a week or so I called them up again and they said they're looking into it and since then I haven't heard anything. I assumed a week would be enough time for them to look into the issue. I will wait one more day to see what is going on and then I will launch an investigation with my bank, needless to say $20K is a large amount. Right now my options are fairly limited but payments are NOT out of the question. I am still arrange funds (which sadly are coming out of my own pocket but I guess ce la vie.) and discussing alternate payment methods with the investors.

I will not suddenly disappear, I will carry on with my weed sales so I have at least some way of bringing in the bacon and I WILL pay everyone back, principal AND interest. I am not running a ponzi scheme either, as said above if you really want to know how my business model works I'll be happy to discuss it and why I can offer a high return of interest.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: Electrofermion on September 06, 2012, 02:39 pm
ThaiStick: If your stream of income is from SR, then why do you need an exchange to repay investors?
I'm surprised SR hasn't shut down your account yet.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: ThaiStick on September 16, 2012, 11:44 am
ThaiStick: If your stream of income is from SR, then why do you need an exchange to repay investors?
I'm surprised SR hasn't shut down your account yet.

A good % of my business / repayment comes from my weed sales.

^ I said a good %. SR is a major factor income source but I also invest outside of SR too.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: sargek on September 18, 2012, 10:41 pm
ThaiStick your account no longer exists.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: ThaiStick on September 19, 2012, 12:13 am
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/e12594094f

I exist but apparently I'm being looked into. So thanks to everyone who reported me even though I'm arranging alternate methods of repayment. Silkroad was a major source of income for me. Hopefully the administrators can see that I AM trying to resolve the issue at the moment and let me carry on selling and doing business on here but if not then hopefully everyone who has replied to me can send me an alternate method of repayment. Like I said I'm not here to scam, SR has been way too good to me and I know that if I stay legit I can make a lot more money than scamming for a few hundred and then not having any trust at all.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: hysmar8 on September 21, 2012, 09:04 am
Thai Stick, when have a refund? Can you at least give a date of payment?
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: over_done_soup on September 26, 2012, 04:30 pm
Thai Stick, when have a refund? Can you at least give a date of payment?

and the cuntin loans are back?!!?

what the fuck is up with SR admin, fair enough give the guy his vending account back so he can sell drugs, but surely he should be banned form this fucking ponzi loan scam shit!

pleeese peeps be careful, i lost a lot of money on loans from other vendors, dont be a victim of this bullshit, give SR a bad name.  :-\

Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: baddieboy on September 28, 2012, 01:16 pm
It would appear his account has been pulled.

What is the situation have any of the outstanding loans been paid?
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: over_done_soup on September 28, 2012, 04:56 pm
no man, the ponzi dried up a long time ago..
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: baddieboy on September 28, 2012, 05:24 pm
Over_done_soup could you explain to me what a ponzi (I know it's a scam) is and how it operates?
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: over_done_soup on September 28, 2012, 05:37 pm
you would probably get a better explanation from google, but ill try;

eg an investment policy where the interest rates are very attractive where they claim its from trading or some other money making scheme. so lots of people invest, but unfortunately the early investors get paid from the funds of the newer investors, but in no time the funds run dry. A sucessfull ponzi can run years, most run days - low weeks.

There was a great one about 5 years ago (aprox my memory aint good) called goldenrocks run by 2 people who called them selves the polar brothers, it lasted almost 2 years and was paying 90% in 30 days!!
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: baddieboy on September 28, 2012, 06:07 pm
Thanks I am actually familiar with that con.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: ThaiStick on September 29, 2012, 03:28 pm
I've already said this isn't a ponzi scam. I'm more than happy to outline my profit margins and methods if people are that worried. Offering almost 30% wouldn't even be successful in running a ponzi. Especially with the minimum investment being $330. For a ponzi to work successfully "investors" need to be offered a very small amount IE 1.1% return including principal and a small amount. If I wanted to run a ponzi scam I would have offered way lower returns, over a shorter period of time and open to any amount.

As for the loans, I've spoken to SR support. They've outlined what I should do in order to keep my account safe - people WILL be paid back. Everyone is being dealt with individually. Also the reason it looks bad is because a lot of the people have actually received partial payments via my weed sales which as soon as it reaches x amount x amount of the loan is paid back to the investor. A lot of them haven't updated feedback sadly which makes me look like I haven't been repaying loans when in reality I'm doing everything I can to fix the issues.

If you have any questions, please PM me on my profile - I hardly check into the forums. However I will check back on this thread in a few days if people really want me to outline my methods. I'm here to prove I'm NOT running a ponzi scam and that the money being loaned to me is actually being used to fund various projects where the returns are much greater, so I can afford to pay back investors a fairly good amount. It's a lot like buying stocks with me, you invest x amount and you sort of own part of the business. Even my weed sales on here is majorly / was majorly funded by the loans until my BTC buyback was investigated resulting in almost a 20k loss. Shit happens sadly - so what I'm doing now is using my own money to buy weed and sell (which I pick up in wholesale and is funded by a few IRL friends who take their cut of the profit too.) in order to keep business going.

As I've said - any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. I'll answer every single one to my best ability.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: Winta is coming on September 29, 2012, 04:23 pm
I invested with Thaistick awhile back using my buyer account.. Although he was late on repayment which wasn't cool I did get the agreed amount of interested so it all worked out OK.

I'd say he's an honest legit dude, trying his best... but may of over extended himself. He should at least advertise the time until repayment may be a week or 2 longer.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: Skunky on September 30, 2012, 02:22 pm
I agree, I to have had two loans with thai stick, of which both were for quite alot of money. He was late paying, but paid none the less. I vouch for him being an honest vendor. All i can advise all you people is to be patient. Imagine the amount of stress he has to deal with ! I know it of his own making but still, he does get around to paying and i would be prepaird to invest in him again once its all back under control.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: ThaiStick on September 30, 2012, 10:38 pm
Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate that some people here still can deal with situations like adults instead of retorting to child like behavior. Rest assured I only want to help the SR community and I am working around the clock to solve everyone's issues. I accept I made a mistake in a part of my plan which resulted in many problems, yes I should have planned for something like this to happen but it was all going so well so I didn't think much and carried on. Obviously I was wrong and I can only learn from it and make my service better.

I'll be working with a few people I know too to speed things up and get things going more professionally. Expect to see a much better service from me and my team soon.

Thank you.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: bigbanana on October 12, 2012, 12:44 am
It's been more than 2 months since I gave ThaiStick my 50 BTC.  He keeps telling me he's going to repay, offered 2 alternate means of repayment (one which I agreed too) but every time it looks like he will, there's another excuse.   DO NOT invest in this vendor. 
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: Sharp50 on October 15, 2012, 07:08 pm
It's been more than 2 months and ThaiStick has not repaid my loan.  For the last 2 months he's been giving excuses and making promises yet he never follows through.  Somehow he got his vendor account back.  Probably by making promises to SR that loans would be repaid...  Clearly ThaiStick is not an honest vendor.  Do not buy or invest with him, eventually you will get burned.

We need everyone else who has outstanding loans to come forward and let the community know.  Don't let this guy take our money, get away with it, and continue to do business on SR. 
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: pushkin on October 16, 2012, 06:44 am
he don't pay me too, he is scammer
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: ThaiStick on October 17, 2012, 05:13 pm
I love how everyone is jumping to conclusions without full proof. Have you guys got any understanding of how I have to go about obtaining almost 20k in BTC / cash / UKASH without looking suspicious? Honestly guys I'm doing the best I can atm given my failed MTGOX situation.

I've decided to just go all out on weed sales and use that money to pay people back, I was just stocking up on BTC before sending payments out so we can pay our supplier for more weed because the sad fact is if I have no weed to sell I can't make most of my profit.

A few payments were sent out today for everyone's information. I am NOT a scammer, this was NOT a ponzi scheme and I have everyone's username along with the amount they are owed and people WILL be paid back.

@pushkin, what's your username? I don't have that username on my list. Please provide me with your investors username or transaction ID / feedback left.

@Sharp50 - I have you down as $500. A payment of $100 is expected into your BTC account sometime later tomorrow as I'm only a few more FE's away from my next payment send-out and tomorrow more people should get their weed so they can FE.

@bigbanana - same with you, what's your username? I made a note of everyone who was to be repaid and yours isn't on there. Please provide me with your investors username or transaction ID / feedback left.

I'm honestly not out to scam and I've only just recently got back into paying people after going through a lot of work with trying to figure out how to protect my own safety as well.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: pushkin on October 18, 2012, 07:14 am
I love how everyone is jumping to conclusions without full proof. Have you guys got any understanding of how I have to go about obtaining almost 20k in BTC / cash / UKASH without looking suspicious?
it's your problem, you have to think about it in advance, before the problem arise. don't offer, if you can't do it
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: ThaiStick on October 19, 2012, 01:40 am
I don't think I've ever denied that it wasn't my problem? I've said multiple times that it was my own fault. The loans were going great and quiet a few handful of people made money from and my business but it was just the last batch that fucked up and I've accepted multiple times that this was my fault and I should have taken more precautions.

You still haven't answered my question though, what was your username when you invested in me? I don't have pushkin on my list. Don't go around throwing accusations please, you wouldn't like it if you were a vendor and someone spread lies about you so please don't treat me the same way. Payments are being sent out as sales from weed / virtual cards increase and people FE.

SR support and I have spoken a bit and were both on an understanding that I will keep people updated. No one is getting scammed. I'm sure I speak for most of us when I say were here to act and do business like adults, not kids. Being behind this monitor does not take away from my business etiquette.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: lex on October 23, 2012, 11:37 am
I don't think I've ever denied that it wasn't my problem? I've said multiple times that it was my own fault. The loans were going great and quiet a few handful of people made money from and my business but it was just the last batch that fucked up and I've accepted multiple times that this was my fault and I should have taken more precautions.

You still haven't answered my question though, what was your username when you invested in me? I don't have pushkin on my list. Don't go around throwing accusations please, you wouldn't like it if you were a vendor and someone spread lies about you so please don't treat me the same way. Payments are being sent out as sales from weed / virtual cards increase and people FE.

SR support and I have spoken a bit and were both on an understanding that I will keep people updated. No one is getting scammed. I'm sure I speak for most of us when I say were here to act and do business like adults, not kids. Being behind this monitor does not take away from my business etiquette.

I ordered 7 grams of weed from you ThaiStick, you made me finalize early. Then you sent me 0.8 grams of weed and now no reply to messages in days. You stole from me and you probably steal off other people.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: ThaiStick on October 29, 2012, 03:59 pm
I messaged you back regarding this, I asked you if you got one jiffy bag or 7 and you said one so I've already accepted there was an order mistake along the pack up production. Message us back if you want us to send 7g or if you want a refund. SR isn't loading for us at the moment but as soon as it's up we'll act on your response.

We haven't stolen from ANYONE, so please do not accuse us of doing such a thing. Our love for this community is too much, for once we have a decent marketplace where scams are minimized and I can support my friends and family with the revenue. Just because we do not login for two days does not make us thieves. It's called having other business to take care of, do you really think we would steal for a measly 7g when we can make so much more being legit? Think about what you are saying.

If we wanted to steal, we would have done it ages ago and not stick around when the money went away. We still care about our customers and were doing the best we possibly to improve our service.

In this case, we will now re-asses packaging procedures to ensure faults such as yours do not happen again.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: bservices on November 19, 2012, 11:45 am
not having a good time with thaisticks loan service or communications. it's been nearly a month and still only part payment and poor communication.

i feel like i am beign fobbed off, "couldn't get on SR" yer no one could, but what about all the days before that when SR says you were on,? what about the "you'll have you money in 24hour" which was 14 days ago?

come on thaistick please sort this out

Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: Sharp50 on November 21, 2012, 02:55 am
Thai it's been nearly 3 months since you defaulted on my loan to you.  The last 2 months you've been promising me payment "as soon as the next batch of orders FE"  you did make 1 very small payment about a month ago, but that's it.  It seems the only way to get your attention is to post on the forums so here I am posting to let anyone who's looking for information on you that:
1.  You are a dishonest vendor.  You do not make good on your deals or your promises.  I have also seen a number of comments on this thread talking about how you either did not deliver or shorted them.
2.  You make excuses.  That about sums up all of the problem resolution skills you have.  You make excuses and expect people to believe them. 
3.  You've scammed myself and a number of other members, yet you are still selling on SR.  Buyers beware you may get some of your orders, but I can promise you will not get all of your orders.   So if you don't mind being fucked here and there go ahead and buy from this clown. 

I'm here to tell you Thai, no more excuses.  Make good on my loan or I will continue to warn potential buyers of your ways.  People there are plenty of honest & reliable vendors on SR.  Pay a little extra and use them.  In the long run Thai will cost you more money than the more expensive & reliable vendors. 

Word to the wise.  This guy will burn you.   Fact.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: bigbanana on November 21, 2012, 07:51 am
Thai it's been nearly 3 months since you defaulted on my loan to you.  The last 2 months you've been promising me payment "as soon as the next batch of orders FE"  you did make 1 very small payment about a month ago, but that's it.  It seems the only way to get your attention is to post on the forums so here I am posting to let anyone who's looking for information on you that:
1.  You are a dishonest vendor.  You do not make good on your deals or your promises.  I have also seen a number of comments on this thread talking about how you either did not deliver or shorted them.
2.  You make excuses.  That about sums up all of the problem resolution skills you have.  You make excuses and expect people to believe them. 
3.  You've scammed myself and a number of other members, yet you are still selling on SR.  Buyers beware you may get some of your orders, but I can promise you will not get all of your orders.   So if you don't mind being fucked here and there go ahead and buy from this clown. 

I'm here to tell you Thai, no more excuses.  Make good on my loan or I will continue to warn potential buyers of your ways.  People there are plenty of honest & reliable vendors on SR.  Pay a little extra and use them.  In the long run Thai will cost you more money than the more expensive & reliable vendors. 

Word to the wise.  This guy will burn you.   Fact.

Chiming in here as well.  Almost 3 months ago finalized on a loan payment of $350.   As of now I have received $50 dollars back which he gave me 2 weeks ago. 

Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: ThaiStick on November 23, 2012, 12:31 pm
@Sharp50, let me explain to you in very short terms what has happened. I've tried to be calm with everyone and understand their problems but no one seems to give a shit about the things I have to go through. The business I'm in is very easy money for the time I spend. There's a few days where I have go hard as a motherfucker with my team and get work done but it pays off in the end. The loans were very successful at the start and lasted for a good few weeks. No this was not a ponzi scam because in the beginning I only had 3 people invest in me, and I was slow to start paying them back (about 3 days delay) because people did not have the basic skills to read my listings for the weed that they NEED to finalize early. As you can see from my weed reviews, only a few packages go missing. I would rather take the cost of those missing packages then have delays on funds in escrow. The quicker my funds get released the quicker I can buy new stock and make more profit. If 2/10 packages go missing I can afford to cover it because I've already made profit from my next batch. I can always get more weed in if I have money, but if I have no money I can't buy any weed from my supplier.

Secondly, I explained this to everyone. Yes I fucked up big-time and made a mistake. I made a large transfer to MTGOX because frankly, I didn't think the currency vendors on here could handle the amount of money I was moving. MTGOX are asking for documentation which I cannot provide. I lost about $20k in total, over many deposits. I have an note of everyone who is owed money on this forum / site from my loans and the total stands about $11k. It was about about $15k last month. Why are you constantly trying to make me look like the bad guy when I've already started making payments to you? I owe you $375. I have it written down in a nice little Excel sheet. I'm not trying to rip anyone off, if I wanted to scam you guys I would have ditched this account. Made a new one from the funds I had and started selling on there and none of you would be the wiser. I wouldn't do that, because I know what it's like to be ripped out of your hard earned money and it's not nice. You constantly make it look like I'm duping people out but of course, when people get paid they don't leave feedback do they? Out of the listings, only a few people updated. As a matter of fact the first person to buy my 5BTC listing STILL hasn't updated his feedback even though I have paid him. So obviously I look like the bad guy.

I do 100 things right, make people money, having them do NOTHING. Some of my investors have made a grand in a week sitting on their chairs but you don't see the thanks from them do you? Nope, you just see the bad things people put out.

I haven't ripped ANYONE off on their weed sales either, yes there has been a few mistakes and I had a talk with my business partners. We have a separate line for everything, one person handles the bagging, one person handles the posting, one person handles the packaging and so on. Out of 100 packages, about 5 were underweight, to which we clearly offered customers a refund or a replacement where we checked the weight ourselves. At the rate we were moving things we assumed there was a genuine mistake. Also - you're going off on bad feedback? You haven't got a clue where half of those bad feedback came from. If you want, I can tell you exactly what happened in each bad feedback and why I wasn't wrong. The problem is some people on here don't understand business etiquette, my page clearly says that if there's any issues let's talk them over before you leave bad feedback. Most of the time it's just a simple error that can be rectified by a refund or resend. No need to make a damaging impression. I mean one person had the audacity to READ my message with his download links and then leave me bad feedback saying he never got his products. Where's the logic in that?

So I'm just asking for people to bear with me as I work through this fiasco, try to recover from a 20k loss (it's what some people make in a year, go easy on me.), and as I make repayments. If I wanted to scam you guys, I wouldn't even offer you the FULL repayment of the principle + interest. I'd just say take your $330 back and don't deal with me again, but I'm doing the right thing and making sure people get their full $500 each time. So please, stop trying to make me look like the bad guy when you don't have a clue about what really goes on. I've tried being patient with people, but understand I am a human being too. I have a family too. I have my own personal issues to deal with too. Everyone will get repaid, no matter what. I only ask the SR team to keep my vendor account open as I need the weed sales to carry on business. The only reason I'm asking it is because the weed sales RAPIDLY increase revenue. It's the quickest way for me to recover from this loss.

Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: pushkin on December 02, 2012, 09:32 am
Thaistick, you say that you want to increase your sales here, but you absent whole week and I don't see that you try to do something. How long we have to wait our money?
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: bigbanana on December 02, 2012, 12:37 pm
Thaistick, you say that you want to increase your sales here, but you absent whole week and I don't see that you try to do something. How long we have to wait our money?

Good question
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: Sharp50 on December 07, 2012, 02:51 am
Perhaps we should get organized.  It would be helpful to be able to quantify the problem.  If we know approximately how much is still owed and how much has been paid we could forecast the probability of being repaid and the approximate time frame for repayment.   How many people out there are still owed and how much are you owed. 

I have been paid $125 still owed $375
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: bigbanana on December 07, 2012, 05:20 am
Perhaps we should get organized.  It would be helpful to be able to quantify the problem.  If we know approximately how much is still owed and how much has been paid we could forecast the probability of being repaid and the approximate time frame for repayment.   How many people out there are still owed and how much are you owed. 

I have been paid $125 still owed $375

Paid $50 still owed $450
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: pushkin on December 09, 2012, 05:27 pm
He paid me only 50$, owed more than 500$
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: ThaiStick on December 16, 2012, 03:35 pm
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Thaistick, you say that you want to increase your sales here, but you absent whole week and I don't see that you try to do something. How long we have to wait our money?

Allow me to explain this situation. Now I'm not blaming any one here. I'm just being honest with my customers because I would expect honesty from them too. Sharp50 essentially pushed me into a corner. I had $100 left in my SilkRoad account to cash out and restock. Sharp50 said he would report me and make bad comments about me if I didn't pay. So to keep him off my back and to get somewhere I gave him my last $100 I had. So that means I couldn't restock my weed when I wanted to. I'm arranging new products, and a loan from a friend to see if he'll help me but to be honest I prefer to keep things in my team / group and at the moment they can't spare anything because of personal commitments.

Secondly, we were absent for a week because we were trying to liaison some new contacts so we could supply and increase sales to pay everyone back.

Thirdly, I have a whole list of people who are supposed to be paid back with the amount & BTC addresses in case the network goes down. I am more than happy to post these publicly if it's okay with the investors.

I'll be posting a bit more in a separate thread.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: kingson on December 21, 2012, 09:13 am
He hasn't paid me 4 months, he is scammer, don't trust to him, HE IS SCAMMER
PEOPLE DON'T GIVE HIM YOUR MONEY
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: hysmar8 on December 21, 2012, 10:06 am
This is not a scam! I lent him $ 75 he got 3/4 months and it has started to repay me. It pays little but it pays, is the main.
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: pushkin on December 22, 2012, 09:44 am
just look at his feedbacks he is a scammer
Title: Re: ThaiStick Loan Review
Post by: kingson on December 22, 2012, 10:17 am
There are a new option on vendor's page: "report this vendor". You can complain if he scammed you.