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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: ManaFromHeaven on June 05, 2012, 07:38 pm
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I thought I'd just throw this out there. It would be pretty cool to sell these. I mean real auditable degrees. You'd probably have to have someone on the inside and if too many people did it, it would probably throw up a red flag but to have a degree from oh...MIT or CalTech or Yale or whatever. That would be pretty cool.
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I can't get degrees from MIT or Yale but I can get them from Oxford and Cambridge if that's of any interest.
Just having the paper is useless anyway, most good employers will phone to check so it needs to be on the university computer system too.
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Due to some confusion I'll explain it clearly here.
I now have access to a few Ivy League and lower US institutions which I was previously unaware of, through a contact. Not a large amount though, only a small select few.
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I can't get degrees from MIT or Yale but I can get them from Oxford and Cambridge if that's of any interest.
Just having the paper is useless anyway, most good employers will phone to check so it needs to be on the university computer system too.
Well yea, that's what I meant by auditable. Those are really good schools too.
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Don't suppose you can get any red brick UK unis such as Manchester or Leeds ?
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Don't suppose you can get any red brick UK unis such as Manchester or Leeds ?
No the only UK ones I can get are Oxford, Cambridge, Reading or LSE (London School of Economics).
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This is outdated information too, it's any University under the UK UCAS system.
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Whats the prices like and i guess they are not auditable ?
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Whats the prices like and i guess they are not auditable ?
They are all autidable, that's why I made the point above.
Your potential employer will be able to phone the University and ask whether you actually have that degree and they will confirm.
Prices depend on the University but for the best (Oxford & Cambridge Universities) about £750.00 / $1160 (130 Bitcoins) to the lesser ones (Reading University) about £250.00 / $390 (43 Bitcoins).
All the £750 degree's are first class, unless stated otherwise (if you actually aren't that good at something it may be a better idea to go for a 2:1 rather than a 1st!)
I'd need to know your name and what you intended to major in (which subject, I.E. "Computer Science" or "Particle Physics" etc and a few other details
Final product can be delivered in roughly 10 to 14 days.
OZ
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lol, this is wonderful!
YOUR WELCOME! :P
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+1 Impressed. Well I am in the states and would like a state side audit-able degree in IT OR technical certifications.
Can someone make either one of those happen?
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I can't get degrees from MIT or Yale but I can get them from Oxford and Cambridge if that's of any interest.
Just having the paper is useless anyway, most good employers will phone to check so it needs to be on the university computer system too.
All i can say.. is: BE CAREFUL, MAN!!
i'm graphic designer,and did "only fake" some "study identifactions"(well, Train, bus, museum for free, etc..(
I was just caught cause "a bird" began to sing..
police came with 9 guys.. in the morning 05.30, grabbed all my new Macs , harddrives, etc.. evenmy iphone.. 1 day later they were at 12 of my friends houses . all same time . 05.30h but they were all living in different cities spread over germany.. looking for these study cards... luckily found non, except 1 cause my friend was noticed as using a fake ticket on train...
Anyway.. lust back from judge this week,,
they managed to find out when i started doing these tickets..now :
its the local bus tour operators , + the Germain Railway, and + the university who "just calulated" to my opportunity as they sid.. crazy... ok, for mor than 10 years , there have been at least 12 people been , using their services regulary???? non of my friends goes to museums regular:
Museum : 10 pers. each charged a monthflatrate 46€/mo for 9 yrs:
local bus tour operator: the same, but ticket per month
Die Deutsche Bahn was nice.. they expected that all had a "Bahncard", reduced price 50%, and so they "only" charged for each of the 12 persons "potential monthly tickets"312€/mo per person for 7,5 years..., oh i forfot the University ... 10 persons calculated as per 320€ yr each,, oh my brandnew Macs will be kept because "they were potential weapons used in crine"""??? WTF???
I'm in Revisioin now, but calculate if its worth it... looks like i won't see a lot of my future money for a long long time!
SORRY, but i need to let it out ....
FUCK THE SYSTEM!!!!!
That was too much, Germany.!! PUNKROCK NEVER DIES!!!!!
just as an advice.. be carefuk man, i felt completely safe for so many years, but.., FUCKED
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I can't get degrees from MIT or Yale but I can get them from Oxford and Cambridge if that's of any interest.
Just having the paper is useless anyway, most good employers will phone to check so it needs to be on the university computer system too.
All i can say.. is: BE CAREFUL, MAN!!
i'm graphic designer,and did "only fake" some "study identifactions"(well, Train, bus, museum for free, etc..(
I was just caught cause "a bird" began to sing..
police came with 9 guys.. in the morning 05.30, grabbed all my new Macs , harddrives, etc.. evenmy iphone.. 1 day later they were at 12 of my friends houses . all same time . 05.30h but they were all living in different cities spread over germany.. looking for these study cards... luckily found non, except 1 cause my friend was noticed as using a fake ticket on train...
Anyway.. lust back from judge this week,,
they managed to find out when i started doing these tickets..now :
its the local bus tour operators , + the Germain Railway, and + the university who "just calulated" to my opportunity as they sid.. crazy... ok, for mor than 10 years , there have been at least 12 people been , using their services regulary???? non of my friends goes to museums regular:
Museum : 10 pers. each charged a monthflatrate 46€/mo for 9 yrs:
local bus tour operator: the same, but ticket per month
Die Deutsche Bahn was nice.. they expected that all had a "Bahncard", reduced price 50%, and so they "only" charged for each of the 12 persons "potential monthly tickets"312€/mo per person for 7,5 years..., oh i forfot the University ... 10 persons calculated as per 320€ yr each,, oh my brandnew Macs will be kept because "they were potential weapons used in crine"""??? WTF???
I'm in Revisioin now, but calculate if its worth it... looks like i won't see a lot of my future money for a long long time!
SORRY, but i need to let it out ....
FUCK THE SYSTEM!!!!!
That was too much, Germany.!! PUNKROCK NEVER DIES!!!!!
just as an advice.. be carefuk man, i felt completely safe for so many years, but.., FUCKED
I'm not a graphic designer who makes them, the ones I get the Universities actually issue themselves. They actually think someone got the degree and post it out themselves.
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Haha that would be nice shit!
I would like 1 to hang on the wall :P
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I can't get degrees from MIT or Yale but I can get them from Oxford and Cambridge if that's of any interest.
Just having the paper is useless anyway, most good employers will phone to check so it needs to be on the university computer system too.
So you saying you can get me on the system?
Some degree to practice psychology, counseling or something?
that would be cool. ;D
Let me know if you can make it happen.
I'm not looking for a degree as a brain surgeon or anything.v ;)
Good thread.
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yeah just an simpel degree would be very nice!
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Whats the prices like and i guess they are not auditable ?
They are all autidable, that's why I made the point above.
Your potential employer will be able to phone the University and ask whether you actually have that degree and they will confirm.
Prices depend on the University but for the best (Oxford & Cambridge Universities) about £750.00 (2723 Bitcoins) to the lesser ones (Reading University) about £250.00 (908 Bitcoins).
All degree's are first class, unless stated otherwise (if you actually aren't that good at something it may be a better idea to go for a 2:1 rather than a 1st!)
I'd need to know your name and what you intended to major in (which subject, I.E. "Computer Science" or "Particle Physics" etc.
Final product can be delivered in roughly 1 week.
OZ
Confused on the prices there, mate. £750.00 =/= 2723 Bitcoins and £250.00 =/= 908 Bitcoins, just wondering which one it is?
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Whats the prices like and i guess they are not auditable ?
They are all autidable, that's why I made the point above.
Your potential employer will be able to phone the University and ask whether you actually have that degree and they will confirm.
Prices depend on the University but for the best (Oxford & Cambridge Universities) about £750.00 (2723 Bitcoins) to the lesser ones (Reading University) about £250.00 (908 Bitcoins).
All degree's are first class, unless stated otherwise (if you actually aren't that good at something it may be a better idea to go for a 2:1 rather than a 1st!)
I'd need to know your name and what you intended to major in (which subject, I.E. "Computer Science" or "Particle Physics" etc.
Final product can be delivered in roughly 1 week.
OZ
Confused on the prices there, mate. £750.00 =/= 2723 Bitcoins and £250.00 =/= 908 Bitcoins, just wondering which one it is?
That difficult to read?
750 for oxford and cambridge
250 for reading
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Whats the prices like and i guess they are not auditable ?
They are all autidable, that's why I made the point above.
Your potential employer will be able to phone the University and ask whether you actually have that degree and they will confirm.
Prices depend on the University but for the best (Oxford & Cambridge Universities) about £750.00 (2723 Bitcoins) to the lesser ones (Reading University) about £250.00 (908 Bitcoins).
All degree's are first class, unless stated otherwise (if you actually aren't that good at something it may be a better idea to go for a 2:1 rather than a 1st!)
I'd need to know your name and what you intended to major in (which subject, I.E. "Computer Science" or "Particle Physics" etc.
Final product can be delivered in roughly 1 week.
OZ
Confused on the prices there, mate. £750.00 =/= 2723 Bitcoins and £250.00 =/= 908 Bitcoins, just wondering which one it is?
That difficult to read?
750 for oxford and cambridge
250 for reading
It is because they two completely different prices for the same thing!
£750 or £202 Oxford
£250 or £67 Reading
He obviously made a error converting btc price, I was wonder which was the correct.
That difficult to read?
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The sketchy part, if you actually plan to USE the degree to get employed in the field, would be to run into people that also went to your school or were part of the same class even where you'd have to seriously do some serious avoidance or bullshitting. It could be done, especially if enough time had passed, but you'd have to do some research and be a smooth motherfucker should that day come.
If it's a large enough university/class and less specialized and more general area of study you'd be safer. You couldn't ever become too prominent in your field either. Like you might not want to try and publish books where you list Oxford in your pedigree.
Otherwise, it'd be a cool showoff piece.
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The sketchy part, if you actually plan to USE the degree
I reckon the sketchy part is people who did no study acting as lawyers or doctors, dohohoho.
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Whats the prices like and i guess they are not auditable ?
They are all autidable, that's why I made the point above.
Your potential employer will be able to phone the University and ask whether you actually have that degree and they will confirm.
Prices depend on the University but for the best (Oxford & Cambridge Universities) about £750.00 (2723 Bitcoins) to the lesser ones (Reading University) about £250.00 (908 Bitcoins).
All degree's are first class, unless stated otherwise (if you actually aren't that good at something it may be a better idea to go for a 2:1 rather than a 1st!)
I'd need to know your name and what you intended to major in (which subject, I.E. "Computer Science" or "Particle Physics" etc.
Final product can be delivered in roughly 1 week.
OZ
Confused on the prices there, mate. £750.00 =/= 2723 Bitcoins and £250.00 =/= 908 Bitcoins, just wondering which one it is?
That difficult to read?
750 for oxford and cambridge
250 for reading
It is because they two completely different prices for the same thing!
£750 or £202 Oxford
£250 or £67 Reading
He obviously made a error converting btc price, I was wonder which was the correct.
That difficult to read?
Like I said.... 750 for oxford
250 for reading....
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Whats the prices like and i guess they are not auditable ?
They are all autidable, that's why I made the point above.
Your potential employer will be able to phone the University and ask whether you actually have that degree and they will confirm.
Prices depend on the University but for the best (Oxford & Cambridge Universities) about £750.00 (2723 Bitcoins) to the lesser ones (Reading University) about £250.00 (908 Bitcoins).
All degree's are first class, unless stated otherwise (if you actually aren't that good at something it may be a better idea to go for a 2:1 rather than a 1st!)
I'd need to know your name and what you intended to major in (which subject, I.E. "Computer Science" or "Particle Physics" etc.
Final product can be delivered in roughly 1 week.
OZ
Confused on the prices there, mate. £750.00 =/= 2723 Bitcoins and £250.00 =/= 908 Bitcoins, just wondering which one it is?
Yes the conversion was wrong. Either way I meant the GBP prices.
I've corrected it now.
So Reading University would be £250.00 / $390 (43 Bitcoins).
Oxford or Cambridge University would be £750.00 / $1160 (130 Bitcoins).
Apologies for the confusion.
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Woah! I wanted this but prices being $5-10k I wrote this off. I think I will give this a try mate. In due time, but shit, I love you, EE Degree here I come :)
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any chance of an Australia degree?
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I would be VERY interested in this, could you list them up on SR?
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I would be VERY interested in this, could you list them up on SR?
There's too many options to list, and it's not a business for me. If you read my other posts you'll see I don't exactly need the money, I'm just here to buy stuff, have fun and help people on the forums. I'm not even sure if you're allowed to sell these here. People have bought them off me before though.
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Can anybody post a review on them?
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I can't get degrees from MIT or Yale but I can get them from Oxford and Cambridge if that's of any interest.
Just having the paper is useless anyway, most good employers will phone to check so it needs to be on the university computer system too.
So you saying you can get me on the system?
Some degree to practice psychology, counseling or something?
that would be cool. ;D
Let me know if you can make it happen.
I'm not looking for a degree as a brain surgeon or anything.v ;)
Good thread.
from my experiences in university, Northern UK. if you know the timetable & location of most lectures, you can pretty much just walk into them. theres so many students entering the buildings that actually using the card you get when you register to open doors and stuff is pretty unnecessary. we used to walk in with friends who were still twisted from the previous night just to fry their minds getting lectured on statistics for social studies or the specific uses of the amygdala. Psychology was pretty funk!
the only thing is though, that seminars, tutorials and other things would be a lot more difficult to sneak into as their locations are less public than lecture theaters & most likely the person guiding the students would recognize that you weren't part of the regular tutor group. plus not being able to log onto the computer system would suck! also from my experience, its the university library that is the most difficult to access without valid student ID.
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Well I wouldnt want to actually ATTEND the university (besides I most likely couldnt even take a final and get a degree, or even turn anything in if I did that and didnt pay them)
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anyone tried this ?
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i want 1,especially if they can get in the school system
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I would be VERY interested in one of these. I am going to research what "could" have been me. Doubt the title of Jerry Junkie phd. would land me any decent errr land me in the University of Corrections. Something basic would be great. Go look up old classmates you hated and know hard timess have hit them in the face. Here I come along and rub it in lol. HEY THERE MR. POPULAR!!! I see while you were to busy living off mum and father acting better than everyone else I was out getting a degree in(...........fill in blank......). Now if you will excuse me I have to mingle(showing off some more) with the other people who thought I was just a drug addict loser and belittle them some. I got my degree to be a pharmacist and have untold knowledge of dop......err medications. And you there mr. bully jock could use a fix am I right? LOL thought so!!! Next time you are going through WD take this capsule bite down and keep it in your mouth til dissolved. Feeling different? Good Good!! Glad I could help. Give it just a minute and you won't be feeling anymore pain. Because cyanide kills fast lol
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I would go with meteorology. Give ole Jim Cantore a run for his money. I was in Biloxi,MS area when Katrina struck. Of course Jim Cantore was there so we kept yelling at him to go away lol. Wherever he is at seems to ALwAYS get hit the hardest. So we labeled him Jim the Jinx. So sure enough the place was leveled and I had a front row seat bout 2 1/2 miles inland. I could see the beach when it was over. 30 ft. storm surge was to far away. Scary as shit and heartbreaking. Not going into details but alot of death was around. Fucked me up til this day.
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Had a few people ask so thought id mention that I got one and its all cool.
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lol wish i knew about the hidden net 6 years ago before i went through 13 exams to get my final degree ..
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Would it be possible to get a spot to any good university? Or would that be harder than actually getting the degree xD?
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I would be VERY interested in this, could you list them up on SR?
There's too many options to list, and it's not a business for me. If you read my other posts you'll see I don't exactly need the money, I'm just here to buy stuff, have fun and help people on the forums. I'm not even sure if you're allowed to sell these here. People have bought them off me before though.
Hey OZL - that's really awesome of you to offer this service. I'm curious to know if you are able to produce auditable graduate degrees (from one of the four schools you listed) for someone who already has an undergrad degree...? Thanks!
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Hey OZL - that's really awesome of you to offer this service. I'm curious to know if you are able to produce auditable graduate degrees (from one of the four schools you listed) for someone who already has an undergrad degree...? Thanks!
Yes that's just as easy.
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Hey OZL - that's really awesome of you to offer this service. I'm curious to know if you are able to produce auditable graduate degrees (from one of the four schools you listed) for someone who already has an undergrad degree...? Thanks!
Yes that's just as easy.
Well you've convinced me mate. I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place atm, can't go to school or drive, but this is like a bloody godsend. I'm gonna research which major I can utilize to get an entry level job that pays well and one I can learn fairly easily and I'll get back to you. Thanks again mate :D
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hopefully i haven't missed this question, but would it be possible to get other uk uni's? or even post grad diploma's?
other query would be wouldn't there be a time limit on issuing these? as wouldn't it look suspicious the university sending out certificates months after graduation etc?
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What about University of London Overseas Degrees which are done by the LSE?
EDIT: What about the equivalent of transcripts, does this come with a record of which classes were taken/scores?
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anybody know how to clean my record from the LAW ENFORCMENT ?
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I am highly interested in this. I need a bachelors in anything from any accredited college or university in the US. A degree in communications would even work. I'm looking to teach English abroad and just need it to be verifiable by employers or whatever. Please PM with your price so we can discuss this is more detail.
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college is fo idiots
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hopefully i haven't missed this question, but would it be possible to get other uk uni's? or even post grad diploma's?
other query would be wouldn't there be a time limit on issuing these? as wouldn't it look suspicious the university sending out certificates months after graduation etc?
Yes it's now possible for to get a degree from any UK UCAS (main) University, the ones I listed were just the most popular examples and ones I get asked for most. Infact I wasn't aware until I asked my contacts that some of the others were available as I'd never been asked for them myself.
There isn't really a time limit on the degrees, since they are legitimate and fully verifiable you can simply phone the university and request a replacement certificate saying you lost your original, which isn't suspicious at all, thousands of people do this daily. Although you don't need to do this as the degree's I supply come with all the relevant documentation.
Saying that I won't be doing the degrees for a while after August this year, as I need to take a break for a while to keep my head down.
EDIT: What about the equivalent of transcripts, does this come with a record of which classes were taken/scores?
All the degrees come with the full transcripts showing every exam taken and the result, which will line up with the final degree paper. They contain the paperwork for any extra modules such as extra languages or skills you want to "have done" as well...
They are REAL degrees, you get everything including all paperwork and verifiability you would expect with any normal degree.
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Had a few people ask so thought id mention that I got one and its all cool.
so it verfied on their webpage or on the phone, and how did you get the phone number to verify it
i would be very interested in one if they turn out to be legit
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As far as prices.. Are bachelors cheaper? Im looking to get a bachelors from a school in the states for my job(not using the degree itself but for promotion...) dont care about the subject just as long as it checks out.
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so it verfied on their webpage or on the phone, and how did you get the phone number to verify it
i would be very interested in one if they turn out to be legit
Since everything is fully verifiable, I'm sure you can verify it any way you want. Website or phone. I'm sure you can find the phone number on the website too. :)
As far as prices.. Are bachelors cheaper? Im looking to get a bachelors from a school in the states for my job(not using the degree itself but for promotion...) dont care about the subject just as long as it checks out.
Doesn't look like he does US schools. Just UK.
Wish he did though. Not that a degree from a UK school is shabby in the least, just that never having been there I wouldn't want to have to bullshit anything about the place.
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Do you have a sellers account and escrow?
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As far as prices.. Are bachelors cheaper?
The prices are pretty much all the same, it's more to do with my contacts and what they charge rather than the place or type of qualification. To be honest for something that changes the course of your whole life they're pretty cheap but as I said before I don't run this as a business and I'm not looking to make money, it's just something I can get hold of.
Doesn't look like he does US schools. Just UK.
Wish he did though. Not that a degree from a UK school is shabby in the least, just that never having been there I wouldn't want to have to bullshit anything about the place.
I do US schools too. Not as many and harder to get hold of but I do them. I do a few others worldwide as well, but that's on a specific case by case basis.
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ok after reading this thread im going to bite and get one... will pm you OscarZuluLondon.... will write a review for everyone if it goes well :D
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:O Any specific U.S. Colleges?
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Whats the prices like and i guess they are not auditable ?
They are all autidable, that's why I made the point above.
Your potential employer will be able to phone the University and ask whether you actually have that degree and they will confirm.
Prices depend on the University but for the best (Oxford & Cambridge Universities) about £750.00 (210 Bitcoins) to the lesser ones (Reading University) about £250.00 (70 Bitcoins).
All degree's are first class, unless stated otherwise (if you actually aren't that good at something it may be a better idea to go for a 2:1 rather than a 1st!)
I'd need to know your name and what you intended to major in (which subject, I.E. "Computer Science" or "Particle Physics" etc.
Final product can be delivered in roughly 1 week.
OZ
Hey man are these autidable in the US, really interested in one!
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hey mate any chance of an australian degree?
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:O Any specific U.S. Colleges?
I've had a few people ask so I'll list here:
Mainly it's Ivy League Universities, so Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Cornell, Comumbia and also MIT and CIT (Cal Tech). I can get a few lower ones such as Floria University etc but that's funnily harder for me.
Hey man are these autidable in the US, really interested in one!
Yes, everything I sell is completely auditable.
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:O Any specific U.S. Colleges?
I've had a few people ask so I'll list here:
Mainly it's Ivy League Universities, so Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Cornell, Comumbia and also MIT and CIT (Cal Tech). I can get a few lower ones such as Florida University etc but that's funnily harder for me.
Wow... pricing on the U.S. universities?
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Can anyone vouch for these yet? definitely interested
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had loads of ppl messaging me for some reason, but yes like I said before I got one... I used it to get a new job
I bought two degrees from oscar... one was a normal degree and another was a masters degree, one in IT (computer science) and one in business (MBA). I already worked in IT and kinda know a lot about that stuff but was doing a bad support job and wanted to get a better managers job I had seen advertised...
it was a UK degree (Cambridge University) but I live in the US. When it arrived I phoned the Uni to check that it was real and they confirmed the years that I studied (even tho I didnt lol!!) and what I had studied. They even complimented me for doing so well on my final exams and in my class lol!! they both came with the normal certificate that was signed and stamped with the genuine seal thing and another piece of paper showing every result from every exam I did (again even tho I didnt lol!!)
my new employer actually phoned the uni to check I had done the degree, and everything was OK. I'm doing the job now and all cool...
thanks oscar ;D might be getting another one soon for friend so pm me when you here.
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i am goin to need 1 OSCAR let me know what i must do ! im in college right now !
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so what do you do when they ask you to prove you actually know what is printed on the degree? i can get a fake paper that says i know how to cook, but when they ask me to bake a cake that will be useless.
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Dang true story, i think maybe if they try to pursue something they really know , and not just hope for , some people cant afford college but can hook up an AirConditioner units like LEGO's
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so what do you do when they ask you to prove you actually know what is printed on the degree? i can get a fake paper that says i know how to cook, but when they ask me to bake a cake that will be useless.
This is obviously an issue for trade degrees, say CS or Electrical Engineering (though there are a lot of self-trained CS people who know just as much as someone with a diploma).
That being said, the vast majority of liberal arts degrees (Psychology, History, Int'l Relations) are more proof of the fact that you can work within the system and hand in your assignments on time for four years as opposed to any specialized knowledge.
Having a degree in History or Psych I can apply to a crapload of government jobs that have nothing to do with the actual knowledge you've learned in class. They are simply interested in what having a degree shows - which is the ability to stick to something for four years and a reasonable level of intelligence.
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Any chance you could get any Irish University degrees? Need one for NUI Maynooth
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I am new here and I would love to get a degree but on the first page you say
I can't get degrees from MIT or Yale but I can get them from Oxford and Cambridge if that's of any interest.
Just having the paper is useless anyway, most good employers will phone to check so it needs to be on the university computer system too.
then you say
:O Any specific U.S. Colleges?
I've had a few people ask so I'll list here:
Mainly it's Ivy League Universities, so Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Cornell, Comumbia and also MIT and CIT (Cal Tech). I can get a few lower ones such as Floria University etc but that's funnily harder for me.
Hey man are these autidable in the US, really interested in one!
Yes, everything I sell is completely auditable.
So the original poster said he wanted a degree from MIT, Yale or CIT and you said you could NOT get those, then 10 days later so can get all of them.
What changed ????
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I am new here and I would love to get a degree but on the first page you say
I can't get degrees from MIT or Yale but I can get them from Oxford and Cambridge if that's of any interest.
Just having the paper is useless anyway, most good employers will phone to check so it needs to be on the university computer system too.
then you say
:O Any specific U.S. Colleges?
I've had a few people ask so I'll list here:
Mainly it's Ivy League Universities, so Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Cornell, Comumbia and also MIT and CIT (Cal Tech). I can get a few lower ones such as Floria University etc but that's funnily harder for me.
Hey man are these autidable in the US, really interested in one!
Yes, everything I sell is completely auditable.
So the original poster said he wanted a degree from MIT, Yale or CIT and you said you could NOT get those, then 10 days later so can get all of them.
What changed ????
was wondering the same thing
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it's well known oscarzulu is a federal psyop agent
what ? lol
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no lie, go read some of his posts and be amazed at the dangerous misinformation most of them contain. here's one as an example:
personally I think Silk Road needs to set up a private bridge for us all to use which we can trust as it would be self defeating for them to allow it to be breached.... I'm getting so fed up about all the FUD written here I'm thinking about making a free one for all the Silk Road users tonight
this might seem like a good, helpful idea to new users and those who don't know the inner workings of tor. but to somebody who has knowledge of security models and knows how to unpack the technical language, it actually means "sr should be a clearnet website, and everybody that connects to it should be wiretapped by me"
just read through that thread (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=27050.0), it's full of comedy gold. here's another fun tidbit:
I've never denied I used to be a fed... I was recruited to work for them after being arrested several times.
If oscar can somehow recover from this I'll buy a degree ;D
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lol
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It's always difficult to know how much you can trust anyone on here. Past arguments on previous threads can resurface months later in tit for tat bullshit. Multiple profiles can be created to corroborate a story or accuse a person. I think there is consensus that if this could be done, then there would be huge demand for this.
However, 3 or 4 users could surface with winning testimonials but I would still be sceptical as quite frankly if I was scamming I would set up multiple handles months in advance in preparation. I am not saying for one second that this is what is being done, but why a few testimonials don;t mean anything to me. One way to test it would be to create an identity at a university under a pseudonym and call checking the credentials. A costly experiment even if people bundled their funds but if it was successful, ultimately invaluable.
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Man, I had a feeling this was too good to be true; hopefully OZ can defend himself.
Another weird thing? MojoMan's account, the guy who vouched the degree from OZ, was made shortly after this post.
Whats the prices like and i guess they are not auditable ?
They are all autidable, that's why I made the point above.
Your potential employer will be able to phone the University and ask whether you actually have that degree and they will confirm.
Prices depend on the University but for the best (Oxford & Cambridge Universities) about £750.00 (2723 Bitcoins) to the lesser ones (Reading University) about £250.00 (908 Bitcoins).
All degree's are first class, unless stated otherwise (if you actually aren't that good at something it may be a better idea to go for a 2:1 rather than a 1st!)
I'd need to know your name and what you intended to major in (which subject, I.E. "Computer Science" or "Particle Physics" etc.
Final product can be delivered in roughly 1 week.
OZ
Confused on the prices there, mate. £750.00 =/= 2723 Bitcoins and £250.00 =/= 908 Bitcoins, just wondering which one it is?
Yes the conversion was wrong. Either way I meant the GBP prices.
I've corrected it now.
So Reading University would be £250.00 GBP or 70 Bitcoins.
Oxford or Cambridge University would be £750.00 GBP or 210 Bitcoins.
Apologies for the confusion.
Mojoman continued to spam the next couple of days, disappeared from SR, and then vouched on the thread. I'd like this to be explained as well. Also, anyone give this a try, yet?
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Mojoman continued to spam the next couple of days, disappeared from SR, and then vouched on the thread. I'd like this to be explained as well. Also, anyone give this a try, yet?
Sounds sketchy.
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I also find it odd that it seems like everybody that asked him about the degrees was directed to mojoman, who gave a nice long review about it, idk about you, but if a vendor (in this case "vendor") was pointing every single interested buyer to me for reviews, I'd get pretty damn annoyed :P
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Plus, he could make HUGE bank if he offered this service on the SR website instead of advertising it willy-nilly. God damn it, I knew it was too good to be true :(
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I really, really wish that a *well-established* member of SR reviewed one of his degrees so we'd know if this guy was legit or not.
That being said nobody's coming in here saying that they got scammed, so either he's had no bites or he's legit.
Personally I might fund his seller's account myself if he agreed to sell under escrow.
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I really, really wish that a *well-established* member of SR reviewed one of his degrees so we'd know if this guy was legit or not.
Personally I might fund his seller's account myself if he agreed to sell under escrow.
I almost attempted to try it out but there's wayyy too many red flags.
That second one isn't a bad idea though; or we could do a sample group buy for one person. If it works, the one person reimburses everyone else involved and we have ourselves a great thing here; if it doesn't, we all don't lose as much.
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Yeah Caparino I was thinking of that too. It's what, 250GBP for a "lesser" school as he says? That's about 50 bitcoins. I'd definitely send 1-2 bitcoins to check out if this guy's legit.
Of course this all depends on him. If he's a scammer he'll either tell us to fuck off or encourage the plan, then take the money and run.
If someone sold actual verifiable degrees they'd probably make a goldmine here.
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Yeah Caparino I was thinking of that too. It's what, 250GBP for a "lesser" school as he says? That's about 50 bitcoins. I'd definitely send 1-2 bitcoins to check out if this guy's legit.
Of course this all depends on him. If he's a scammer he'll either tell us to fuck off or encourage the plan, then take the money and run.
If someone sold actual verifiable degrees they'd probably make a goldmine here.
Cool, let's find out what the sitch is by reading his defense. I think that'll be the final decider of this situation and this doesn't turn into another {KAT} thread
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Woahhh!! I go away for a few days to enjoy the sun we're finally having here and the whole thread turns into a shit storm lol!
Anyway I'll happily answer any of your concerns, and if anyone has any others they should say now.
I originally offered the degrees expecting 2, maybe 3 people to respond but not get hundreds of emails asking for them!! Over the years (over 6 years now) I've done about 80 in total, all for close friends and pretty spaced apart in terms of time from each other. This is why I originally said I don't do this as a business, I won't ever do this as a business, this is simply a favor for people who need it. To be honest I regret even offering them here, but I thought since I enjoyed the community and someone asked if it was possible to get hold of them I thought I'd point out that I could.
As for the prices, ranging from £250 ($385) to £750 ($1160) I didn't think very cleverly about that either. Those are the prices I charged my friends in the past, and most of the money goes to my contacts anyway, I only take a small amount. If I was here to scam people or run a business believe me I'd be charging a hell of a lot more than that. I've had some people here offer me 20K+, seriously, I can show you the screen shots. But I'm simply not interested. I'm simply doing these as a favor, I have a good job in the real world and earn plenty of money legitimately, I don't need to scam people for a pathetic £750. It's for this reason that you don't see my offer spammed all over other black market websites, such as BMR, which are full of scammers, and for the same reason you don't see me spamming in every request thread about people wanting fake qualifications saying "me me me, buy from me". I'm simply not interested. It's a favor, not a business or a scam. I don't want to attract huge amounts of attention to myself in real life or on here. I was shocked a few days ago I got a message from some guy saying "yo my friend told me about this website in class, I didn't come on here before but he said there's some guy selling degrees"... I mean WTF?!?! Are you serious? That's the last thing I need... People please… keep this quiet.
The fact that despite doing several now not one person has commented here that they have been scammed should speak for itself. MojoMan was kind enough but not everyone wants to publicly announce that they have a mooody degree, especially people who's other posts could give away who they are, or who have long transactions records and many vendors may have their addresses.
With regards to the user called "MojoMan" I thought he or she had been a user on this forum for longer than this thread about degrees has existed, but actually when I went to check I was wrong, I can see this thread was created on June 5th and Mojoman started posting on June 12th so I guess there’s no evidence I can use there.
Mojoman continued to spam the next couple of days, disappeared from SR, and then vouched on the thread. I'd like this to be explained as well. Also, anyone give this a try, yet?
I would disagree with this though. None of "MojoMan"s posts seem in any way spammy or spam like to me.
There are other users that I’ve sold degrees to who will be doing reviews soon too though, however not all of them have been here that long. As I said before from now on I’m going to start limiting the number of degrees I sell and then tapering off in mid August (only maybe doing 4 or 5 more) until the next academic year. I’ll still be able to do enrollments for people who actually want to attend lectures for a few weeks after the degree deadline but then after that you’ll have to wait for the next academic year: 2014. Please don’t write to me if you can’t even spell correctly, I’m not sure what some people expect but hell, if you can't even spell correctly then I'm not going to enroll you in Harvard Law or issue you with an Oxford bachelors degree. I have a reputation to maintain with my contacts and don’t want to burn bridges there.
Plus, he could make HUGE bank if he offered this service on the SR website instead of advertising it willy-nilly. God damn it, I knew it was too good to be true :(
I'm not interested in making "HUGE bank". I don’t need a mattress made of dollar notes. I’m not a gangster.
That second one isn't a bad idea though; or we could do a sample group buy for one person. If it works, the one person reimburses everyone else involved and we have ourselves a great thing here; if it doesn't, we all don't lose as much.
This plan sounds great, I'm more than happy to do that.
Personally I might fund his seller's account myself if he agreed to sell under escrow.
This also sounds like a good idea, and I've had a few people messaging me offering so sort a seller account, my only reservations with this idea are that firstly as I said above I don't make much profit on the degrees. From the £750 I charge I only make £50. £700 goes to my contacts. This makes it very hard to sell as you are suggesting, my only idea is that perhaps I could do what the fake ID vendors do and make two products, Degree part 1 and Degree part 2. For part 1 people finalize early and cover my contact costs, then for part 2 they finalize when the degree arrives. The only downside to this is that I would have to increase the price of the Degree's (or the whole thing is pointless, there's no point having A at £700 and B at £50), and I don't feel comfortable naming a higher price as I feel I would be profiting from you guys which I'm not willing to do. I suppose if someone was to come to me and say "I'll pay XYZ" then that would be OK, but I feel genuinely uncomfortable naming a higher price other than what my time costs.
I kind of do this already anyway, I don't necessarily need to take all the money up front, I'm happy to take a deposit and then pay the rest on arrival of the degree, or work out some other kind of plan.
If anyone else has any ideas which could work then I'd love to hear them...
Also going back to the degrees, it is NOT a case of you tell me which Uni and name then pay the money then I disappear. There's several stages to go thorough from collecting all the details, agreeing a back story for yourself and previous academic history which ties up with the degree and ensures continuity so nothing comes back to bite you and everything goes smoothly when you use it in the future, even in 50 years time. This may include having to arrange better SAT's (US) or A-Levels (UK) or IB (Europe) for you, which is included in the price. Then the next stage is actually choosing relevant subjects and even looking at each module in detail and deciding what grades to award for each one, for every little exam. Even maybe doing some fake "exam resits" in subjects you are weak at in the past. Then looking at what grade you want for the overall degree (1st, 2nd, 3rd etc). Normally within 48 hours of asking me to arrange the degree you will be able to phone the university, pretend to be an employer and ask whether you actually were awarded the degree and all the details etc. Then around 10 to 14 days after asking me to arrange then your certificate will arrive alongside other documentation. You'll even get annoying University newsletters every year saying "welcome to our alunmi club bla bla bla, do you want to donate to the University bursary fund for poor people, do you have any rich friends we can annoy?"...
no lie, go read some of his posts and be amazed at the dangerous misinformation most of them contain. here's one as an example:
Shannon why do you hate me so much? I've only ever tried to genuinely help people here. I may have once or twice been wrong, or in the dark about some small piece of information, but look at every single post I've ever made. I've done nothing but help people. I've never purposefully told someone to do something that would get them into trouble, or given someone knowingly bad advice, infact the main criticism of myself would be that I tell people to be overly paranoid and cautious.
Very convenient that you choose to omit the rest of his post. A quick look at your posting history suggests you have some score to settle with him as you are constantly bickering with him in different threads. If your going to quote people to discredit them atleast quote them fully and accurately, otherwise your only discrediting yourself. No where in that post does he suggest everyone route traffic through a bridge he controls,in fact he specifically states you shouldnt trust him or any other individual to do this.
Exactly, thank you for doing your research. People can make stuff sound however they want, this guy does have some beef with me. I remember there was one thread about encryption a while ago, and I was having a debate with the guy, and ended up getting a whole shed load of negative karma, and then a few weeks later one of the admins here was having a chat with me and showed me an article proving I was right anyway. I try to avoid those troll like threads which just descend into argument now. I’ve been doing what I do for a very long time now, and have nothing but good intentions so I think that’s all I can say. If you read some of my more personal threads you'll see I've commented about experiences I've had in real life and also whilst trying some of the things on here and that some of the things I said are pretty personal and not something that a scammer says. Whether or not anyone continues to get the degrees from me I'm still going to be here, helping people in the forums and buying stuff myself from others.
Again, as above, If anyone else has any ideas which could work then I'd love to hear them...
OZ
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i can get harvard.edu email aliases, if anybody's interested :)
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My main question would be that the original author asked for a degree from Yale, CalTech or MIT and you said you could NOT get those and then after some time you said you can get all of them.
Also another user asked for Manchester or Leeds and you said you could only get Oxford, Cambridge, Reading or LSE in the UK and again after some time you said you can get all UK universities.
Care to explain that ? Especially if you are not doing this as a business and thus you have no reason to try and get new contacts to accommodate these people wanting degrees from other universities.
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Don't suppose you can get any red brick UK unis such as Manchester or Leeds ?
No the only UK ones I can get are Oxford, Cambridge, Reading or LSE (London School of Economics).
hopefully i haven't missed this question, but would it be possible to get other uk uni's? or even post grad diploma's?
other query would be wouldn't there be a time limit on issuing these? as wouldn't it look suspicious the university sending out certificates months after graduation etc?
Yes it's possible to get a degree from any UK University, the ones I listed were just the most popular examples and ones I get asked for most.
There isn't really a time limit on the degrees, since they are legitimate and fully verifiable you can simply phone the university and request a replacement certificate saying you lost your original, which isn't suspicious at all, thousands of people do this daily. Although you don't need to do this as the degree's I supply come with all the relevant documentation.
Saying that I won't be doing the degrees for a while after August this year, as I need to take a break for a while to keep my head down.
EDIT: What about the equivalent of transcripts, does this come with a record of which classes were taken/scores?
All the degrees come with the full transcripts showing every exam taken and the result, which will line up with the final degree paper. They contain the paperwork for any extra modules such as extra languages or skills you want to "have done" as well...
They are REAL degrees, you get everything including all paperwork and verifiability you would expect with any normal degree.
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i've noticed the same thing, steelseth
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I have asked him to explain this before instead we got a reply about every other bullshit except from an answer.
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he gets my scammer's seal of approval :D
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Woahhh!! I go away for a few days to enjoy the sun we're finally having here and the whole thread turns into a shit storm lol!
You know, I've been following this thread and I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner. You're providing a service which a lot of people want and working out of escrow on the forums. Eventually someone would get suspicious.
That being said, having read your reply I personally think you are really trying to do the right thing. You are right when you say that these are worth much more than what you're charging for them (4 years of tuition + rent vs. 750GBP, anyone?)
I could of course be wrong, but think about it guys - either he's legit or he's had absolutely nobody take him up on the offer yet. I say this under the (IMO reasonable) assumption that if he scammed someone they would report it here.
Let's just back off a bit. I'd rather give a scammer a bit of leeway than start a wtich hunt against a guy who's honestly doing this because he likes the community. And yes, I realize I have a brand-new account here (though if you want I can show you a year-old buyer account on SR, though I never posted in the forums with it) so I'm almost tempted not to hit 'post' lest someone accuses me of being "in league with a scammer lollll!!!!11" :/
Personally I would be highly willing to pay a deposit and the rest upon receipt, the only difficulty being that I'm a virtual nobody on SR (well, I'm a seller trying to get my product supply worked out but until I get feedback I realize that I have no status) so I see no reason why *he* should trust *me*.
Any established member willing to spring for a uni degree? ;)
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Oscar, I think what everyone's pretty confused about is this. In one of your first posts you write:;
I can't get degrees from MIT or Yale
and then a page later:
Mainly it's Ivy League Universities, so Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Cornell, Comumbia and also MIT and CIT (Cal Tech).
Can you clarify that?
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Some questions have been asked.
They have not been answered yet.
If and when they are answered each one of us will decide what he will do.
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i aint got nothing to LOSE and all to WIN !
i heard once,, nothing ventured nothing gained.. i did some more research.. and sure enough there is really a team in the "Union" that actually do this on school servers and all that.... im'a get some proof.
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i aint got nothing to LOSE and all to WIN !
i heard once,, nothing ventured nothing gained.. i did some more research.. and sure enough there is really a team in the "Union" that actually do this on school servers and all that.... im'a get some proof.
Why didn't you buy it 2 months ago when he first offered them ?
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i had some dumb court case for 2 joints, and plus im in college now needing like 3 electives for like 9 scheduled hours till' i transfer for my degree, and during all dat' i had to stock up on my dank and what not' cuz i aint goin out like a punk come August when my rescheduled court is suppose to be ~ on top of all that , i found his crew and they seem legit, i just got some info, and asked if they can try gettin some new schools for the States, and he is willing to work out of escrow
the only more proof i need is a real picture of a finished product, and that is what im workin' on now...
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i had some dumb court case for 2 joints, and plus im in college now needing like 3 electives for like 9 scheduled hours till' i transfer for my degree, and during all dat' i had to stock up on my dank and what not' cuz i aint goin out like a punk come August when my rescheduled court is suppose to be ~ on top of all that , i found his crew and they seem legit, i just got some info, and asked if they can try gettin some new schools for the States, and he is willing to work out of escrow
the only more proof i need is a real picture of a finished product, and that is what im workin' on now...
Can you share that information with the rest of us ?
And I hope you are not talking about http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=4553
because that seller also claims to be a contract killer with 30 hits under his belt and will also sell you Ziplock bags for £ 8.00. LOL
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well if thats true, than damn were all fuked ,,,lol jk.
i rather have a killer on my team.. then say zombies ??
here your zombie checklist from the Center of Disease and Control
http://blogs.cdc.gov/publichealthmatters/2011/05/preparedness-101-zombie-apocalypse/
i gotta check that link for the hitman ! is that for real ?
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i just checked that link !
damn they got fake SR's everywhere now :?
is this place better ? yup.. and sure enough thats "the Union"
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BUMP ~
+1 Clove !
all i have in this world is my ball and my words...
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Just wanted to post that I am going to go ahead and take oscar up on his offer. I know I dont have very many posts here but I have good buyer stats so I will post here with a followup (Around $5k spent on the silkroad, another $2k in escrow.).I will post a followup once I'm able to confirm. For those that are curious Ive proposed to oscar that I pay 65% of the fee upfront and the last 35% after I confirm. Wish me luck that everything works out.
Good luck and please do keep us updated.
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My main question would be that the original author asked for a degree from Yale, CalTech or MIT and you said you could NOT get those and then after some time you said you can get all of them.
Also another user asked for Manchester or Leeds and you said you could only get Oxford, Cambridge, Reading or LSE in the UK and again after some time you said you can get all UK universities.
Originally I only could get them from Oxford, Cambridge the LSE or reading. These are still by far the easiest for me (along with A-Levels, SAT's, IB etc which are pretty easy too). I'd never been asked for too many other Universities before in my whole time doing this. (only Harvard and a few other niche UK ones).
However I had a huge amount of people asking for other institutions, particularly US ones, so I asked my contacts who said others are available, which I wasn't previously aware of. My contacts are based in the US and China by the way, it's just before they only supplied me with access to certain resources in the UK, where I live.
I'm sorry for being human lol. I have a couple more contacts now than when this thread first started too.
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I am in the process of ordering a trial degree in a name and address not associated with this account so if that turns up I will check with the university then leave a review.
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My main question would be that the original author asked for a degree from Yale, CalTech or MIT and you said you could NOT get those and then after some time you said you can get all of them.
Also another user asked for Manchester or Leeds and you said you could only get Oxford, Cambridge, Reading or LSE in the UK and again after some time you said you can get all UK universities.
Originally I only could get them from Oxford, Cambridge the LSE or reading. These are still by far the easiest for me (along with A-Levels, SAT's, IB etc which are pretty easy too). I'd never been asked for too many other Universities before in my whole time doing this. (only Harvard and a few other niche UK ones).
However I had a huge amount of people asking for other institutions, particularly US ones, so I asked my contacts who said others are available, which I wasn't previously aware of. My contacts are based in the US and China by the way, it's just before they only supplied me with access to certain resources in the UK, where I live.
I'm sorry for being human lol. I have a couple more contacts now than when this thread first started too.
So what are you saying ?
Are you going to do it as a business or are we bothering you by asking ?
Is there a limit of how many you will do ?
Is there a pricelist ?
Are there any that you can NOT do ?
Will you accept escrow ?
Which are the ones you will do for 250 ?
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I've just spent 4 years studying for a degree that I'm probably going to fail, not because I'm incompetent (every essay that I've turned in has easily received a 2:1 or first), but because I am absolutely useless at handing things in on time. So it's like, I've done the degree, I've studied the material, I can answer questions on it, I'm just missing the paperwork. And then I see this, and I really, really hope it's legitimate so that I can carry on with my life knowing I haven't wasted several thousand pounds and years of my life.
I don't want to be naive, but I haven't seen anything that would indicate this guy is a scammer, other than the fact that they're so ruddy cheap. Turning down 20k and only pulling 50 quid profit per job? That's a whole lotta altruism right there.
I really hope this guy is legit, and that he'll offer to do one for me. Right now, I'd even quit drugs to get the money together.
Keeping an eye on this thread :)
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Alright then everybody, I'm gonna go ahead and take hold of my group sample idea. Since there are an amazing amount of members interested in this, and hopefully I'm trusted enough by other members of the forum to write this review (As I've done scores of times before), this is what I plan to do:
I need 9 other members who want a stake in this and really want to test this out, perhaps leading to an amazing opportunity for hundreds on this website:
1. Message me saying you want in, or I'll message you since you've already posted here
2. Screenshots and conversations will be recorded for any contact/transaction I have with both OZ and you.
3. The price from the lesser universities amounts to nearly 50 BTC so we're dividing it into 10; which means each of the 9 investors will send 5 BTC to me on SR, the transactions of which will also be recorded. This way if it reveals to be a scam, then at least we only lose 5 BTC.
4. I'll keep everyone updated every step of the way, every phone conversation, anything I receive in the mail.
5. Upon my receiving the Degree, and given that it's audited, I'll release the good news to my fellow roaders and the 9 investors receive their bitcoins back.
I'm going to put the list of investors here as well, for everyone to see.
1. Caparino
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Message me if you're interested, we might have an amazing thing here!
I have already ordered and payed for one so if people trust me enough as a reliable review you could just use that?
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I really appreciate Caparino's effort and at risk of looking like a tool (since it was my suggestion to pool some BTC together to verify this offer) I think now that Tyl3rdurden has decided to make a purchase I will wait for his results. BlueClove as well.
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Actually I would much prefer to risk 5 BTC now and have 2 reviews.
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Don't let my purchase put people off caps idea on second thought, 2 reviews is way stronger than just one.
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Alright then everybody, I'm gonna go ahead and take hold of my group sample idea. Since there are an amazing amount of members interested in this, and hopefully I'm trusted enough by other members of the forum to write this review (As I've done scores of times before), this is what I plan to do:
I need 9 other members who want a stake in this and really want to test this out, perhaps leading to an amazing opportunity for hundreds on this website:
1. Message me saying you want in, or I'll message you since you've already posted here
2. Screenshots and conversations will be recorded for any contact/transaction I have with both OZ and you.
3. The price from the lesser universities amounts to nearly 50 BTC so we're dividing it into 10; which means each of the 9 investors will send 5 BTC to me on SR, the transactions of which will also be recorded. This way if it reveals to be a scam, then at least we only lose 5 BTC.
4. I'll keep everyone updated every step of the way, every phone conversation, anything I receive in the mail.
5. Upon my receiving the Degree, and given that it's audited, I'll release the good news to my fellow roaders and the 9 investors receive their bitcoins back.
I'm going to put the list of investors here as well, for everyone to see.
1. Caparino
2. Delta11
3. steelseth
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Message me if you're interested, we might have an amazing thing here!
Edit: I'll maintain my efforts to keep this post on the last page so it's viewed more.
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Actually I would much prefer to risk 5 BTC now and have 2 reviews.
Then go for it - I think it's a great idea. I just don't have the 5BTC to spend right now (I would if I could, but I'd have to make a special deposit just for it).
The more reviews the better. I'm just hoping that we're not proving to be "too much" for oscar, if he is for real then he might prefer to lie a bit low and I'd imagine he has quite a few inquiries by now.
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This is a good idea. However, due to the nature of this oscar will likely be able to do this only for only a few people. Because of this I'd rather risk 125 btc and have the opportunity to do this, rather than risk 5 btc, find out it works and only to find out too many were done and be left out of the loop. However as stated previously I will post a review after its completed.
Not to be blunt mate, but your words mean shit here. Tyler's words and hopefully mine are the only ones that'll give this venture any validation
Edit: Got two more on board! One of them is Delta11, a well respected vendor and presence on the forum. Seven more!
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Ive spent 5k and in addition I have 2k in escrow.
Wonderful proof you've provided for your transaction history, in addition to restating your previous statements. But just let me carry through this reputable review, yeah?
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This is a good idea. However, due to the nature of this oscar will likely be able to do this only for only a few people. Because of this I'd rather risk 125 btc and have the opportunity to do this, rather than risk 5 btc, find out it works and only to find out too many were done and be left out of the loop. However as stated previously I will post a review after its completed.
Not to be blunt mate, but your words mean shit here. Tyler's words are the only ones that'll give this venture any validation
Well aware of this. Read earlier in the thread and I specifically highlighted that the only credibility I had was my buyers history since ive spent 5k and in addition I have 2k in escrow. I'm well aware of my low post count and I mentioned that earlier. That is why I believe your idea is a good idea. However I'm sure some people will still find a review from me helpful and somewhat credible due to buyer stats.
My honest opinion though? I'm hoping oscar only does this for a few people and not help hundreds as you suggested in your post. Not because I dont want people to have this same opportunity, but because if he does too many it will attract attention and the process will be discovered then (and mine and everyone elses money wasted.). In fact he's already stated that he can only be doing this for a few people. However, if I thought he could do this for a bunch of people I'd be 100% willing to contribte 5 BTC and wait on it, but I dont personally believe that to be the case. I will be posting a review as a courtesy to oscar. However if individuals believe it will add no substance to the conversation thats ok. I primarily wanted to do this as a ty to oscar for the opportunity he's providing if this pans out.
I will restate though that your idea is a good idea and I reccommend other individuals follow through on it (Even if he cant do it for more people and its legit everyone will get their BTC back per yourpost.).
You are full of shit !!!
Even if Oscar doesnt want to sell more than a couple of degrees you think the people Oscar gets the degrees from would go into the trouble of compromising the computers networks of every university in the UK and the US just to sell a couple of degrees and earn a few thousand pounds.
These computer systems should be on private networks running different software. So it should be practically impossible to compromise all of them except if they had a common vulnerability or were a part of a common network.
But if there were a part of the same network then Oscar should have had access to all of them from the beginning and not only the 4 he stated at first.
Then if they all had some common vulnerability you would have to know the IP address of each network in order to exploit it, which would be impossible to know all of them, and if they were on closed networks as they should be for security reasons then you would need physical access to the network.
Also if Oscar has been doing this for 6 years then most systems should have been upgraded/replaced which makes the whole effort so much more difficult.
Do you really think someone went through all that just so he could sell you 1 degree for 750 pounds ?
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Ive spent 5k and in addition I have 2k in escrow.
Wonderful proof you've provided for your transaction history, in addition to restating your previous statements. But just let me carry through this reputable review, yeah?
Check your PM.
Sorry man, the reason I answered in the critical tone I assumed earlier is that your lack of forum presence, low post, and mostly backing Oscar in the majority of your posts makes it seem as if you're just a duplicate account Oscar made to scam other people. I've seen way too many scam threads proceed as this one is to not raise my eyebrow in suspicion.
The ancient Egyptians have a great saying, "Guilty until proven innocent" which in my preference works much better than its English counterpart.
Still, I hope if you are an actual person, oscar's degree works out for you. Best of luck man :)
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You are full of shit !!!
Even if Oscar doesnt want to sell more than a couple of degrees you think the people Oscar gets the degrees from would go into the trouble of compromising the computers networks of every university in the UK and the US just to sell a couple of degrees and earn a few thousand pounds.
These computer systems should be on private networks running different software. So it should be practically impossible to compromise all of them except if they had a common vulnerability or were a part of a common network.
But if there were a part of the same network then Oscar should have had access to all of them from the beginning and not only the 4 he stated at first.
Then if they all had some common vulnerability you would have to know the IP address of each network in order to exploit it, which would be impossible to know all of them, and if they were on closed networks as they should be for security reasons then you would need physical access to the network.
Also if Oscar has been doing this for 6 years then most systems should have been upgraded/replaced which makes the whole effort so much more difficult.
Do you really think someone went through all that just so he could sell you 1 degree for 750 pounds ?
Why would you assume the degrees are obtained by computer hacking? :o This isn't the case...
The first ones I provided to my friends are still good, still in use. These aren't some dodgy Chinese hacking shit.
i follow him around and shit on him for providing perennially dangerous and/or shitty advice
Yes you do. Lots of following. Lots!! Your karma speaks for itself Shannon.
Stop trying to discredit me, maybe get one of the degrees, and actually use the extensive IT knowledge you keep boasting about in a well paying job.
caparino, it's obvious blueclove = oscar.
BlueClove isn't me, you should see some of the essays we write to each other in PM's. Any admin can confirm this. His account has been around a lot longer than mine too.
Also I've accepted all the challenges that have been set for me in this thread, including a joint degree which everyone contributes to, or a vendor account with escrow, so the balls in your court to do more than chat shit now.
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caparino, it's obvious blueclove = oscar. blueclove references my posting history, but i delete almost all my posts a day after writing them. nobody except oscar would remember that i follow him around and shit on him for providing perennially dangerous and/or shitty advice
It's highly likely that it is, my brain's pretty convinced that it is; but my situation begets my interest in confirming the matter at hand. I'd double my pay and be able to be less dependent on my dad's financial help, not to mention others that might be helped through this. If somehow the small chance that this isn't a scam becomes the case and I missed out on it, I'd be forever pissed :-\
I've been taking a tolerance break so I don't mind sparing this week's drug money towards this confirmation
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Is there any point to be throwing accusations of who is who around at this point? This forum's on a Tor hidden service, the IPs mean jack shit, nobody can ever know who anybody is.
I swear, sometimes I think SR just likes a witch hunt a little bit too much. You guys remember that TheSocialEngineer thread? Every single person in there was convinced that the guy was Zeus and any time he would start scamming people. This scamming was supposed to start "any time now" since April and still hasn't happened. And the guys there had a lot more circumstantial evidence that you do (which is, uh, none).
It's all rumour and speculation. You will find out, literally in days, if oscar is legit once TylerDurden reports his experience.
Will -anything- productive come from unproven accusations? No. But let's just say I was oscar, and I was legit and I was seriously doing this as a favour to the community and I was being accused left and right of being a scammer, I would say "fuck this shit" and be outta here so fast I'd create minor gravitational distortions.
Honestly, if you have good info - I'd love to hear it. Until then let's wait for BlueClove and TylerDurden to report back.
(I swear to God if someone accuses ME of being Oscar I'm going to fucking lose my shit, you guys are way too paranoid)
Edit: if you're not convinced by any of my arguments and are tempted to reply "fuck off sqlinjection you fukkin n00b who are you anyway", consider this. Let's say you're ALL right, about EVERYTHING. The next seller who comes here, who DOES happen to be legit and wants to offer something to the community as a means to give back - not as a business model - he decides to see how he'd be treated. He obviously doesn't want to put himself out there if vultures will descend on his metaphorical being. What do you think that seller will decide if he sees that every single person who offers something at a good price is called a scammer without a shred of evidence? They will high-tail it out of here pretty damn fast, that's what they'll do.
So for the good of future products and services everywhere, let's be civil. Personally, I would never sell on the forum or out of escrow. I think it raises numerous red flags but I still think that if someone does it's the buyers choice and the seller shouldn't be accused of being a scam without evidence. They sure as hell shouldn't be accused of being a scam based on a couple of positive reviews and zero negative ones.
And if I turn out to be wrong and this guy IS a scam, I'll eat my words and send each and every one of you who thought so 5 yummy Onax 2mg bars for you to chill, 'kay?
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(I swear to God if someone accuses ME of being Oscar I'm going to fucking lose my shit, you guys are way too paranoid)
Hahaha, you'd be surprised!
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(I swear to God if someone accuses ME of being Oscar I'm going to fucking lose my shit, you guys are way too paranoid)
Hahaha, you'd be surprised!
I know, eh. In some threads everyone who agrees with OP is instantly accused of being his sockpuppet. I don't want this to be one of those threads.
Honestly, I appreciate what you're doing and I think we need people like you - blind naivete doesn't work on a market like this. Still, I hope we can do it with some tact in case we are unwittingly scaring away a legitimate seller.
I think I made a mistake getting started in this thread, I feel like instead of testing the shallow SR waters I just jumped head-first from the diving board into the deep-end. Still, what can I say - we agree on one thing: we both want one of those degrees and we both want to know if this guy's legit. I think you'll agree with me when I say I hope you're wrong about him :D
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It's highly likely that it is, my brain's pretty convinced that it is; but my situation begets my interest in confirming the matter at hand. I'd double my pay and be able to be less dependent on my dad's financial help, not to mention others that might be helped through this. If somehow the small chance that this isn't a scam becomes the case and I missed out on it, I'd be forever pissed :-\
I've been taking a tolerance break so I don't mind sparing this week's drug money towards this confirmation
No we aren't the same person for god's sake. You guys are all crazy, I've never seen such paranoia in my life, especially when I'm trying to do a good deed lol.
Look at the amount of messages we've exchanged, these are old, clearly not just made for show:
http://postimage.org/image/6j0smxi3r/
And look how long they are, this is one of the shorter ones:
http://postimage.org/image/pmu439uxz/
The truth has nothing to fear from scrutiny so I'm happy to play this game all day and night long.
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Still, what can I say - we agree on one thing: we both want one of those degrees and we both want to know if this guy's legit. I think you'll agree with me when I say I hope you're wrong about him :D
Why do you think I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt? There's coincidences to show that he may be a scammer, and same with the obverse, but he's neither at the moment. So lets find out shall we?
No we aren't the same person for god's sake. You guys are all crazy, I've never seen such paranoia in my life, especially when I'm trying to do a good deed lol.
It's only because SR has become a commonplace for the attempts of scamming. Our minds are shaped to put together pieces to see if you're a scammer, and most pieces fall into place but we haven't seen the actual act of scamming so I'm still in the middle on this one. Please excuse my sense of paranoia, it's served me well thus far :D
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It's highly likely that it is, my brain's pretty convinced that it is; but my situation begets my interest in confirming the matter at hand. I'd double my pay and be able to be less dependent on my dad's financial help, not to mention others that might be helped through this. If somehow the small chance that this isn't a scam becomes the case and I missed out on it, I'd be forever pissed :-\
I've been taking a tolerance break so I don't mind sparing this week's drug money towards this confirmation
No we aren't the same person for god's sake. You guys are all crazy, I've never seen such paranoia in my life, especially when I'm trying to do a good deed lol.
Look at the amount of messages we've exchanged, these are old, clearly not just made for show:
http://postimage.org/image/6j0smxi3r/
And look how long they are, this is one of the shorter ones:
http://postimage.org/image/pmu439uxz/
The truth has nothing to fear from scrutiny so I'm happy to play this game all day and night long.
You know what this means right? That you're a very smart, dedicated scammer! Eheh. Just kidding, but that's how a lot of people think. Cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias at their finest; rejecting information that doesn't fit their theories and giving too much weight to information that supports them. People interpret evidence selectively, studies have shown that disagreements become more extreme (attitude polarization) as people examine the evidence for or against an issue, even if both sides are examining the exact same evidence. Not saying anyone is doing that in this thread - you guys all seem like sensible people that I'd love to have a beer with, but it happens.
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Thanks for applying a thesaurus to and elongating my reply SQL ;)
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Haha, no worries, just adding some Psych 101 to this thread ;)
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Good News Everyone! peek and Shroomeister are in
Alright then everybody, I'm gonna go ahead and take hold of my group sample idea. Since there are an amazing amount of members interested in this, and hopefully I'm trusted enough by other members of the forum to write this review (As I've done scores of times before), this is what I plan to do:
I need 9 other members who want a stake in this and really want to test this out, perhaps leading to an amazing opportunity for hundreds on this website:
1. Message me saying you want in, or I'll message you since you've already posted here
2. Screenshots and conversations will be recorded for any contact/transaction I have with both OZ and you.
3. The price from the lesser universities amounts to nearly 50 BTC so we're dividing it into 10; which means each of the 9 investors will send 5 BTC to me on SR, the transactions of which will also be recorded. This way if it reveals to be a scam, then at least we only lose 5 BTC.
4. I'll keep everyone updated every step of the way, every phone conversation, anything I receive in the mail.
5. Upon my receiving the Degree, and given that it's audited, I'll release the good news to my fellow roaders and the 9 investors receive their bitcoins back.
I'm going to put the list of investors here as well, for everyone to see.
1. Caparino
2. Delta11
3. steelseth
4. peek
5. Shroomeister
6. Ether
7.
8.
9.
10.
Message me if you're interested, we might have an amazing thing here!
Edit: I'll maintain my efforts to keep this post on the last page so it's viewed more.
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Why would you assume the degrees are obtained by computer hacking? :o This isn't the case...
The first ones I provided to my friends are still good, still in use. These aren't some dodgy Chinese hacking shit.
My first assumption when you could only do 4 schools was that you knew someone that worked at the university.
But then you say your contacts are in the US and China and you can get any UK university.
So if not by computer hacking then how ?
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good luck you, brave souls ;)
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Paranoia is natural with things of this nature. Rather than sounding accusatory without proof for someone who at this point in time is offering a great deal, a thorough line of questioning and suspicion is needed to weed out 'potential' scammers. At times it has come across too strongly which is a shame, but an honest person has nothing to hide and oscar has answered questions up to this point as best he can without revealing too much.
A person has inside access to the database of the best universities around the world and this too without diverting much resources to it as it is a side project. We all hope it is true but if you weren't suspicious you would be a moron. Mojoman's first glowing review was something along the lines of 'yeh I got it and it was all good.' This first 'review' wasn't exactly going to assuage concerns of members. Whilst I appreciate the followup briefly described the outcome, we should all wait on tyl3r and caparino to report as it seems there is consensus on their standings.
Is the name being used a pseudonym which can be independently verified or a RL name that cannot be disclosed to anyone? As 2 purchases have already been made, we might as well wait rather than berating oscar. I myself am very interested and found discrepancies which I havn't disclosed, but felt it pointless as 2 brave guys have taken the plunge already. Waiting game.
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I really want to see how this turns out.
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I really want to see how this turns out.
Interested enough to contribute 5 BTC to our project? We only need 4 more :)
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I really want to see how this turns out.
Interested enough to contribute 5 BTC to our project? We only need 4 more :)
If I had the coin to spare man I would, broke as fuck irl right now so not really a possibility :-\. Ironically, I'm broke because I'm trying to get a degree lol ::)
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I really want to see how this turns out.
Interested enough to contribute 5 BTC to our project? We only need 4 more :)
If I had the coin to spare man I would, broke as fuck irl right now so not really a possibility :-\. Ironically, I'm broke because I'm trying to get a degree lol ::)
Lol, aren't we all. Make sure you follow the thread for any updates and reach out to any SR friends that may be willing to help the cause :D
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I really want to see how this turns out.
Interested enough to contribute 5 BTC to our project? We only need 4 more :)
If I had the coin to spare man I would, broke as fuck irl right now so not really a possibility :-\. Ironically, I'm broke because I'm trying to get a degree lol ::)
Lol, aren't we all. Make sure you follow the thread for any updates and reach out to any SR friends that may be willing to help the cause :D
Will do my man :)
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Just putting it out there for people risking 5btc for this "group buy" its kinda pointless, as oscar will only be doing this until around august 10th, as he told me in a email (takes 2 weeks to get it and hes stopping doing it apx 2 weeks after the first order....hmmm....) so you wont have a chance to really get one yourself, AND on top of that, he will definitely not be doing this for hundreds of people as he as previously stated directly on the forums, so your literately risking your 5btc (a little over $40 atm) for no return at all, besides of course the POSSIBILITY of getting your money back
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Just putting it out there for people risking 5btc for this "group buy" its kinda pointless, as oscar will only be doing this until around august 10th, as he told me in a email (takes 2 weeks to get it and hes stopping doing it apx 2 weeks after the first order....hmmm....) so you wont have a chance to really get one yourself, AND on top of that, he will definitely not be doing this for hundreds of people as he as previously stated directly on the forums, so your literately risking your 5btc (a little over $40 atm) for no return at all, besides of course the POSSIBILITY of getting your money back
Actually I am 99.99995% certain this is bullshit. I am only risking 5 BTC because I said I would, I dont actually expect to get the 5 BTC back.
In the event of Oscar stops doing it and we find out it is legit then if we know such a service exists we will find another provider. I dont think the people that went into this kind of trouble will be doing this as a hobby and rely on Oscar to sell their product.
There is already another vendor on BMR offering the same 4 universities Oscar offered at the beginning, off course the same seller says he is a hitman with 30 kills and will offer his services for 7.5K, and will also offer you Zip lock bags for 8 pounds.
It can not be a coincidence that both Oscar and this seller offer the same 4 universities. That probably means this seller is Oscar and this adds to the bullshit factor but in case Oscar is not a scammer then there is a good chance this vendor is also legit.
This attitude of hurry up until you can because in a few days you will not be able to, is what scammers use to force people and close the deal.
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Just putting it out there for people risking 5btc for this "group buy" its kinda pointless, as oscar will only be doing this until around august 10th, as he told me in a email (takes 2 weeks to get it and hes stopping doing it apx 2 weeks after the first order....hmmm....) so you wont have a chance to really get one yourself, AND on top of that, he will definitely not be doing this for hundreds of people as he as previously stated directly on the forums, so your literately risking your 5btc (a little over $40 atm) for no return at all, besides of course the POSSIBILITY of getting your money back
Actually he mentioned late august, thanks for trying to ruin what I'm attempting here or validity for oscar in the future when he resumes this process. Go die in a fire shitfuck
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Just putting it out there for people risking 5btc for this "group buy" its kinda pointless, as oscar will only be doing this until around august 10th, as he told me in a email (takes 2 weeks to get it and hes stopping doing it apx 2 weeks after the first order....hmmm....) so you wont have a chance to really get one yourself, AND on top of that, he will definitely not be doing this for hundreds of people as he as previously stated directly on the forums, so your literately risking your 5btc (a little over $40 atm) for no return at all, besides of course the POSSIBILITY of getting your money back
Okay.
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Good News Everyone! peek and Shroomeister are in
Alright then everybody, I'm gonna go ahead and take hold of my group sample idea. Since there are an amazing amount of members interested in this, and hopefully I'm trusted enough by other members of the forum to write this review (As I've done scores of times before), this is what I plan to do:
I need 9 other members who want a stake in this and really want to test this out, perhaps leading to an amazing opportunity for hundreds on this website:
1. Message me saying you want in, or I'll message you since you've already posted here
2. Screenshots and conversations will be recorded for any contact/transaction I have with both OZ and you.
3. The price from the lesser universities amounts to nearly 50 BTC so we're dividing it into 10; which means each of the 9 investors will send 5 BTC to me on SR, the transactions of which will also be recorded. This way if it reveals to be a scam, then at least we only lose 5 BTC.
4. I'll keep everyone updated every step of the way, every phone conversation, anything I receive in the mail.
5. Upon my receiving the Degree, and given that it's audited, I'll release the good news to my fellow roaders and the 9 investors receive their bitcoins back.
I'm going to put the list of investors here as well, for everyone to see.
1. Caparino
2. Delta11
3. steelseth
4. peek
5. Shroomeister
6. Ether
7.
8.
9.
10.
Message me if you're interested, we might have an amazing thing here!
Edit: I'll maintain my efforts to keep this post on the last page so it's viewed more.
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hi guys :) and ladies lol ;D ... i have been reading since i posted a few days back and a lot seems to have happened... i know i am a novice forum member but i have a large silk road transaction history, but it dont matter because you shouldnt trust anyone anyway...anyhoo as promised i would write back if anything came back from OscarZuluLondon and something did.
i got my degree and am taking photos on my iphone now. i havent completely checked it yet by phoning the uni and wont be checking it for a few days but promise i will post back here again when i do with results. but the photos are of the degree i recieved. it came faster than OscarZuluLondon said it would, but i live in the Republic of Ireland which isn't too far from the uk university (scotland) which you will see in the photos...if someone can tell me how i block out my real name from the degree photo that would be helpful please :) dont want to post my name here
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Cut small pieces of white paper to fit and place them over your name and whatever before taking the photo although I cant see what this will prove as then it could be anybody's degree ?
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Just putting it out there for people risking 5btc for this "group buy" its kinda pointless, as oscar will only be doing this until around august 10th, as he told me in a email (takes 2 weeks to get it and hes stopping doing it apx 2 weeks after the first order....hmmm....) so you wont have a chance to really get one yourself, AND on top of that, he will definitely not be doing this for hundreds of people as he as previously stated directly on the forums, so your literately risking your 5btc (a little over $40 atm) for no return at all, besides of course the POSSIBILITY of getting your money back
Actually he mentioned late august, thanks for trying to ruin what I'm attempting here or validity for oscar in the future when he resumes this process. Go die in a fire shitfuck
"It's OK, take your time, I'll keep you updated and let you know what's happening my end such as when I'm getting low on my degree quota's for this year. At current rates I estimate I'll run out about the 10th of August, at the latest.
OZ"
Thats the message he sent to me....10TH OF AUGUST, AT THE LATEST, are the exact words he used, trust me I want this to be true as much, if not MUCH more then you do, but I am still skeptical
so go fuck yourself with your god damned ego if you can fit all of that up your tight asshole and actually think about what your saying, that I'M the one trying to ruin his validity for oscar, I dont think you care about that at all, what I think you care about is you getting your fake degree for almost no risk at all, just risking 9 other peoples money that wont get shit for what their actually giving you
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Just putting it out there for people risking 5btc for this "group buy" its kinda pointless, as oscar will only be doing this until around august 10th, as he told me in a email (takes 2 weeks to get it and hes stopping doing it apx 2 weeks after the first order....hmmm....) so you wont have a chance to really get one yourself, AND on top of that, he will definitely not be doing this for hundreds of people as he as previously stated directly on the forums, so your literately risking your 5btc (a little over $40 atm) for no return at all, besides of course the POSSIBILITY of getting your money back
Actually he mentioned late august, thanks for trying to ruin what I'm attempting here or validity for oscar in the future when he resumes this process. Go die in a fire shitfuck
"It's OK, take your time, I'll keep you updated and let you know what's happening my end such as when I'm getting low on my degree quota's for this year. At current rates I estimate I'll run out about the 10th of August, at the latest.
OZ"
Thats the message he sent to me....10TH OF AUGUST, AT THE LATEST, are the exact words he used, trust me I want this to be true as much, if not MUCH more then you do, but I am still skeptical
so go fuck yourself with your god damned ego if you can fit all of that up your tight asshole and actually think about what your saying, that I'M the one trying to ruin his validity for oscar, I dont think you care about that at all, what I think you care about is you getting your fake degree for almost no risk at all, just risking 9 other peoples money that wont get shit for what their actually giving you
In Both their defense Oscar only says hes taking a break in August which implies he will be back with more at some point, proving him a decent guy now would still be worth the 5 bit coins imo. Any body could have suggested this idea Cap just happened to be organized enough to bother....
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Just putting it out there for people risking 5btc for this "group buy" its kinda pointless, as oscar will only be doing this until around august 10th, as he told me in a email (takes 2 weeks to get it and hes stopping doing it apx 2 weeks after the first order....hmmm....) so you wont have a chance to really get one yourself, AND on top of that, he will definitely not be doing this for hundreds of people as he as previously stated directly on the forums, so your literately risking your 5btc (a little over $40 atm) for no return at all, besides of course the POSSIBILITY of getting your money back
Actually he mentioned late august, thanks for trying to ruin what I'm attempting here or validity for oscar in the future when he resumes this process. Go die in a fire shitfuck
"It's OK, take your time, I'll keep you updated and let you know what's happening my end such as when I'm getting low on my degree quota's for this year. At current rates I estimate I'll run out about the 10th of August, at the latest.
OZ"
Thats the message he sent to me....10TH OF AUGUST, AT THE LATEST, are the exact words he used, trust me I want this to be true as much, if not MUCH more then you do, but I am still skeptical
so go fuck yourself with your god damned ego if you can fit all of that up your tight asshole and actually think about what your saying, that I'M the one trying to ruin his validity for oscar, I dont think you care about that at all, what I think you care about is you getting your fake degree for almost no risk at all, just risking 9 other peoples money that wont get shit for what their actually giving you
In Both their defense Oscar only says hes taking a break in August which implies he will be back with more at some point, proving him a decent guy now would still be worth the 5 bit coins imo. Any body could have suggested this idea Cap just happened to be organized enough to bother....
Yep, I asked him that too, I asked if he would restart selling them eventually because of his "yearly quota"
"Yes, I'll be taking a break for about 12 to 18 months.
OZ"
12 to 18 months because he has a yearly quota that he is going to reach by august 10th
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like I said though, I REALLY want this to be real, but I think how good of a deal it is is really blinding everybody, if it seems to good to be true then guess what...IT IS.
I'm also just making sure everybody who gives cap any btc realizes that no matter what, unless they buy it themselves fully right now, if they wait to see if cap gets his or not, they wont be able to get one, and its just a complete risk of their money with absolutely no reward, cap seems to be saying things like it would help hundreds of people, oscar has said straight up that he cant do this that many times and that he will have to stop soon, so cap needs to actually tell people the truth in what their putting their money into, or else as far as I'm concerned he is just scamming people, not saying hes going to run away with their money, but hes offering something that doesnt really exist in exchange for them to put up their own hard earned money...thats scamming
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like I said though, I REALLY want this to be real, but I think how good of a deal it is is really blinding everybody, if it seems to good to be true then guess what...IT IS.
I'm also just making sure everybody who gives cap any btc realizes that no matter what, unless they buy it themselves fully right now, if they wait to see if cap gets his or not, they wont be able to get one, and its just a complete risk of their money with absolutely no reward, cap seems to be saying things like it would help hundreds of people, oscar has said straight up that he cant do this that many times and that he will have to stop soon, so cap needs to actually tell people the truth in what their putting their money into, or else as far as I'm concerned he is just scamming people, not saying hes going to run away with their money, but hes offering something that doesnt really exist in exchange for them to put up their own hard earned money...thats scamming
I honestly dont understand what the fuck your problem is. I would pay $1000 just to find out a service like this exists, I would then pay $50000 to find out where I can get this service and by the end of the year I would have made $100000 in profit.
So shut the fuck up you little bitch.
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Then by all means random person who made an account 2 days ago and is trash talking someone who is being skeptical about a sketchy guy selling a sketchy item for way under price, go ahead and spend $1,000 to see if it exists, just dont bitch and complain on the forum when its gone
*just to add to that random person thing, every single one of your posts has been in this thread, and the first post was made 4 minutes after the creation of your account, so...that kinda adds a lot to the reliability of anything you say here
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Then by all means random person who made an account 2 days ago and is trash talking someone who is being skeptical about a sketchy guy selling a sketchy item for way under price, go ahead and spend $1,000 to see if it exists, just dont bitch and complain on the forum when its gone
*just to add to that random person thing, every single one of your posts has been in this thread, and the first post was made 4 minutes after the creation of your account, so...that kinda adds a lot to the reliability of anything you say here
You truly are a MORON.
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NO MORON is an understatement. If a MORON fucked an APE then it would be you.
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I know people who go vegas/casinos and lose 1k-5k a go. I think 5 bit coins is worth the gamble to see whether they get a degree or not. Even if they dont get one now its worth the risk for a years time when he has a quota again and if he does come through then its quite clear he only wants to help people. Im sure the people who did not get one this time around will be top of the list....
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And why is that? have I said a SINGLE thing thats not true? the only person I have trash talked is CAP, and thats just cuse hes a dick and started it himself, other then that I have only said things that have taken place or have been said, so please tell me how I am in any possible way at all being moronic? I simply give everyone the straight up facts and my personal opinion on said facts, if you have anything at all to actually add to this conversation I invite you to do so at this point in time, and if "You truly are a MORON." is the most intelligent thing you can come up with, then by all means go fuck yourself faggot, you are the scum of the earth and a drain on the worlds IQ.
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I know people who go vegas/casinos and lose 1k-5k a go. I think 5 bit coins is worth the gamble to see whether they get a degree or not. Even if they dont get one now its worth the risk for a years time when he has a quota again and if he does come through then its quite clear he only wants to help people. Im sure the people who did not get one this time around will be top of the list....
If he is reaching his yearly quota, either he has a VERY low quota, in which case he would not even be able to help those 9 people who invested but failed to get anything, that is if he does indeed come back in a years time. and if he can actually help a fair number of people that means that plenty of people have been buying them, and just not actually been posting anything at all on here, which I believe myself to be very unlikely, but it means that there would be many people, having joined at extremely random times though out the history of these forums (as opposed to 2 days ago) with various post counts and reliability to back this fine gent up as to his legitimacy.
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And why is that? have I said a SINGLE thing thats not true? the only person I have trash talked is CAP, and thats just cuse hes a dick and started it himself, other then that I have only said things that have taken place or have been said, so please tell me how I am in any possible way at all being moronic? I simply give everyone the straight up facts and my personal opinion on said facts, if you have anything at all to actually add to this conversation I invite you to do so at this point in time, and if "You truly are a MORON." is the most intelligent thing you can come up with, then by all means go fuck yourself faggot, you are the scum of the earth and a drain on the worlds IQ.
Well the obvious answer to why you are a MORON is because you dont understand why you are a MORON when its obvious to the rest of us.
Clear enough for you ? MORON.
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Please tell me what the last 4 posts you have made add to this conversation, besides spam in order to increase your post count so that you sound more legitimate to anybody who doesn't actually look up when your account was created?
Oh and by the way, its forbidden to be selling anything on these forums without possessing a vendor account, just tossing that little bit in there, not that anybody here is thinking enough to actually care
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thanks to every person who helped me... my degree OscarZuluLondon sent me is here...
http://i.imgbox.com/abf4T9CN.png
again thanks for all help
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Marxist's account is 5 days old and said "ok after reading this thread im going to bite and get one... will pm you OscarZuluLondon.... will write a review for everyone if it goes well :D" literately 2 minutes after the creation of his account, idk about anybody else here, but the first time I view anonymous forums, I would definitely not commit to dropping $1K on a completely random person within 2 minutes of actually being able to access said forums
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I'm completely all for some reviews, even from noobs, but come on, these are just WAY to obviously the same person
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I'm completely all for some reviews, even from noobs, but come on, these are just WAY to obviously the same person
Yes you are smarter than everyone else here. Nobody else though of what you are saying. Must be all that horse tranquilizer shit you have been snorting its making you smarter.
MORON
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Dont get high on your own supply, I'm not quite sure what your on exactly, but I can be sure as shit that you dont sell it because you've just tried to take it all at once, and it seems like you thought the best way to do it would be as a suppository. and I'm sorry that I can be trusted as a vendor and you cant even be trusted posting completely useless information on the forums, I'm not really sure how that's negative at all to me that I am a vendor, I think if anything that proves my legitimacy a bit more then posts like
"You truly are a MORON."
"NO MORON is an understatement. If a MORON fucked an APE then it would be you."
"Well the obvious answer to why you are a MORON is because you dont understand why you are a MORON when its obvious to the rest of us.
Clear enough for you ? MORON."
"Yes you are smarter than everyone else here. Nobody else though of what you are saying. Must be all that horse tranquilizer shit you have been snorting its making you smarter.
MORON "
I REALLY think you need to work on your vocab a bit, I will be offering more competitively priced Adderall tomorrow, might I suggest buying some for yourself and maybe a dictionary, and just go to town for a couple of days, even a thesaurus might work, but I think it'd really help if you actually knew the definitions to at least a couple of words before hitting that up.
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Until someone with a little more....well just more, then you posts here, I'm done talking to you, if you post something at least semi-intelligent I might respond, but other then that I will not even be acknowledging your existence in this thread
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Dont get high on your own supply, I'm not quite sure what your on exactly, but I can be sure as shit that you dont sell it because you've just tried to take it all at once, and it seems like you thought the best way to do it would be as a suppository. and I'm sorry that I can be trusted as a vendor and you cant even be trusted posting completely useless information on the forums, I'm not really sure how that's negative at all to me that I am a vendor, I think if anything that proves my legitimacy a bit more then posts like
"You truly are a MORON."
"NO MORON is an understatement. If a MORON fucked an APE then it would be you."
"Well the obvious answer to why you are a MORON is because you dont understand why you are a MORON when its obvious to the rest of us.
Clear enough for you ? MORON."
"Yes you are smarter than everyone else here. Nobody else though of what you are saying. Must be all that horse tranquilizer shit you have been snorting its making you smarter.
MORON "
I REALLY think you need to work on your vocab a bit, I will be offering more competitively priced Adderall tomorrow, might I suggest buying some for yourself and maybe a dictionary, and just go to town for a couple of days, even a thesaurus might work, but I think it'd really help if you actually knew the definitions to at least a couple of words before hitting that up.
Why would I call you anything else when its clear you are MORON.
Also who the fuck told you that I want to sell drugs or that I even take drugs, you MORON.
You are a fucking drug dealer that sells drugs on the fucking internet, and you make it sound like you are the head of state or a congressman. MORON
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Its getting to the stage where I would pay the bit coins just to stop the immature bickering in this thread.
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Its getting to the stage where I would pay the bit coins just to stop the immature bickering in this thread.
+1 for that, I second this.
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Instead of being critical of anything, FE COULD just have seen whether or not we could have gotten our review in. BUT NO, instead of watching us proceed when we CLEARLY know the risks involved, he has to post stuff we already know to prevent any further investments. THIS WAY, NOT ONLY DO WE NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO GET THIS TRIAL DONE, WE NEVER EVEN FIND OUT IF HE'S COMPLETELY LEGIT. YAY! Adderall? Yeah, you probably require adderall because of the dumb shit you are and your lack of understanding about its adverse long term effects.
THANKS FUCKFACE, YOU PROBABLY MIGHT'VE RUINED TEN PEOPLE'S CHANCES FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. GO. FUCK. YOURSELF. Instead of providing any easy alternatives, you've actually stifled our efforts in every aspect. I wish your parents didn't hate you so much.
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FE's a bitch, yes he is
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I hope he dies in a fire
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Or slits his wrists, either way this world becomes a slightly better place
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dang, if word could kill... 8)
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if i had coins at the minute then i would def help you out, fucking intersango, lol
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if i had coins at the minute then i would def help you out, fucking intersango, lol
You're the second person to mention that to me, damn it intersango! :'(
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Very interested. Will investors get a copy of w.e degree they request?
Wondering what if any US colleges are involved....have not read back in the thread at all...
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=32183.0
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hahahah yo Cap.. the signature fukin throwed ! lol.. in 3-d though ! lol
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hahahah yo Cap.. the signature fukin throwed ! lol.. in 3-d though ! lol
Lol what?
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the signature for all your forum thread posts.. the Dick on Dick on Dick.. with Cats on ice in 3-D lol..
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the signature for all your forum thread posts.. the Dick on Dick on Dick.. with Cats on ice in 3-D lol..
lol, noticed that too, hehehe
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Lol I don't know what throwed means but hopefully I made you laugh :)
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another word for cool, tight,or any other word like that.
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another word for cool, tight,or any other word like that.
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Ah okay, appreciate it brother :D
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Texas// it can mean like when you throwed off ! or like when you see something cool.. u can be like thats throwed.. as if it were all fucked up but in a good way.. to me if something is THROWED..,.well i mean to me, its good as indoor hydropronics ! lol
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I wished I earned karma points for good topics, oh well ::). No U.S. universities yet I take it?
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I really hope this! You guys will be looking at the next Dean of Women Studies at Skank U
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Good News Everyone! Oscar has decided to offer a lower price of 200 GBP for a standard degree. That means we only need 2 more investors of 5BTC each to reach our goal.
Yes, I know it seems sketchy but our goal is to either confirm him as legitimate or as a scammer and this'll help us do it faster.
Two more people as two our brothers have their BTC tied up with intersango/other issues. Get at me ASAP so we can get this show on the road!
1. Message me saying you want in, or I'll message you since you've already posted here
2. Screenshots and conversations will be recorded for any contact/transaction I have with both OZ and you.
3. The price from the lesser universities amounts to nearly 50 BTC so we're dividing it into 10; which means each of the 9 investors will send 5 BTC to me on SR, the transactions of which will also be recorded. This way if it reveals to be a scam, then at least we only lose 5 BTC.
4. I'll keep everyone updated every step of the way, every phone conversation, anything I receive in the mail.
5. Upon my receiving the Degree, and given that it's audited, I'll release the good news to my fellow roaders and the 9 investors receive their bitcoins back.
I'm going to put the list of investors here as well, for everyone to see.
1. Caparino
2. Delta11
3. YouWillNeverKnow
4. peek
5. hoffa
6. Ether
7. ShutupMEG
8. novakane
Message me if you're interested, we might have an amazing thing here!
Edit: I'll maintain my efforts to keep this post on the last page so it's viewed more.
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Come on guys....its only $40. Ill send some party favors to each of the final registers
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Whats the point, there's no way for a buyer to prove to anyone that its legit without revealing themself. If he wants to "show his work" then he's gonna have to do one for a trusted member and have them vouch for it.
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Whats the point, there's no way for a buyer to prove to anyone that its legit without revealing themself. If he wants to "show his work" then he's gonna have to do one for a trusted member and have them vouch for it.
And that's where I come in :)
Come on guys, just 3 more people!
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if the investment could perhaps preorder me a purchase in the event the seller stopped to lay low, I suppose I could support your cause brutha.
Or I could support the cause anyway. interested to see how this plays out
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Why doesn't the seller simply product one in a fake name we all agree upon, a combination of three names from the forum and make a degree and then someone can call the university to verify it both before and after it has been created. Then the seller has proven himself and we can all become gynecologists.
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Why doesn't the seller simply product one in a fake name we all agree upon, a combination of three names from the forum and make a degree and then someone can call the university to verify it both before and after it has been created. Then the seller has proven himself and we can all become gynecologists.
Costs money he doesn't wanna spend, apparently
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Why doesn't the seller simply product one in a fake name we all agree upon, a combination of three names from the forum and make a degree and then someone can call the university to verify it both before and after it has been created. Then the seller has proven himself and we can all become gynecologists.
Costs money he doesn't wanna spend, apparently
and Caparino has nearly sorted his plan out and its a very good idea, sorry cant help out mate, fucking intersango, lol
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I really need a degree.
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Why doesn't the seller simply product one in a fake name we all agree upon, a combination of three names from the forum and make a degree and then someone can call the university to verify it both before and after it has been created. Then the seller has proven himself and we can all become gynecologists.
Costs money he doesn't wanna spend, apparently
and Caparino has nearly sorted his plan out and its a very good idea, sorry cant help out mate, fucking intersango, lol
ONE. MORE. PERSON. :(
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Seriously though, how do you think you're going to bullshit your way into a job? A degree is just the foot in the door, unless its for a bullshit social job like HR, management, socialworker/psychologist/etc...then eventually you're going to run into the little problem of not knowing what the fuck you're doing and i'd imagine people will start to notice. On top of that alot of jobs require certs/licenses that this guy prob wont be able to get, you gonna get certified in something you know nothing about?
God i hope this guy isnt doing these for any positions like doctor or airline pilot.....
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Seriously though, how do you think you're going to bullshit your way into a job? A degree is just the foot in the door, unless its for a bullshit social job like HR, management, socialworker/psychologist/etc...then eventually you're going to run into the little problem of not knowing what the fuck you're doing and i'd imagine people will start to notice. On top of that alot of jobs require certs/licenses that this guy prob wont be able to get, you gonna get certified in something you know nothing about?
God i hope this guy isnt doing these for any positions like doctor or airline pilot.....
Some people cannot afford college. This would be for them. Getting additional training in fields is not difficult, although I do agree with the doctor comment, well mainly because you have to go to medical school for years for JUST being a doctor. However, less life-endangering fields such as IT work wouldn't be a problem. You can learn most anything from books and the internet. Shit I started looking the shit up when I was 13 and am more knowledgeable then most people I've met in the field.
Also, please keep your period out of this thread.
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Seriously though, how do you think you're going to bullshit your way into a job? A degree is just the foot in the door, unless its for a bullshit social job like HR, management, socialworker/psychologist/etc...then eventually you're going to run into the little problem of not knowing what the fuck you're doing and i'd imagine people will start to notice. On top of that alot of jobs require certs/licenses that this guy prob wont be able to get, you gonna get certified in something you know nothing about?
God i hope this guy isnt doing these for any positions like doctor or airline pilot.....
Some people cannot afford college. This would be for them. Getting additional training in fields is not difficult, although I do agree with the doctor comment, well mainly because you have to go to medical school for years for JUST being a doctor. However, less life-endangering fields such as IT work wouldn't be a problem. You can learn most anything from books and the internet. Shit I started looking the shit up when I was 13 and am more knowledgeable then most people I've met in the field.
Also, please keep your period out of this thread.
+1 Couldn't have said it better myself ;D
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This thread is interesting. Throwing a comment in here so that I can keep track. If I had 5 BTCs I'd loan them out, but I only have half a BTC in my possession right now, and no money until payday.
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Just the fact that you think that there's a "university degree" for being "an airline pilot" makes me sad.
Nobody's going to pay a grand for a degree that they can't back up with their own skills and knowledge. I expect that the vast majority of people getting these degrees are either in the liberal arts fields or self-taught computer whizzes. Next time you open your mouth just go on any gov't website and try to apply for a desk job. You'll see that they accept degrees in Philosophy, Psychology, History, Politics and so on. That's because the vast majority of people who get a lib arts degree will go to work in a field that has nothing to do with their major. When seeing a BA History degree from Oxford an employer's not going to jump up and say "gee golly boy, this chap better know ALL The important dates in history!" - they just want proof that you've been able to take challenging courses and succeed at them for three or four years. Once again, for BA degrees that little diploma is a test of intelligence and dedication, not your knowledge in a specific area.
Seriously though, how do you think you're going to bullshit your way into a job? A degree is just the foot in the door, unless its for a bullshit social job like HR, management, socialworker/psychologist/etc...then eventually you're going to run into the little problem of not knowing what the fuck you're doing and i'd imagine people will start to notice. On top of that alot of jobs require certs/licenses that this guy prob wont be able to get, you gonna get certified in something you know nothing about?
God i hope this guy isnt doing these for any positions like doctor or airline pilot.....
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I myself purchased a degree in business and economics, I know enough about the subjects to answer any layman questions I may receive in life. I however do not intend to go to goldmansachs and get a job as a banker as I would most likely get found out. Its just a fail safe and most jobs only ever use the degree as a vetting process because why would they take somebody without a degree when they can pick somebody with one.... as for becoming an airline pilot I think you will find its one of many jobs that does not require any sort of degree.
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Just the fact that you think that there's a "university degree" for being "an airline pilot" makes me sad.
Since making the offer in the forums here, you'd be surprised at some of the hilarious things people have asked me for, that's why I ended up putting the comment in a post a few pages back that if someone can't spell correctly I'm not going to enroll them in Harvard Law.
I have a certain level or reputation to maintain with my contacts and I actually care about humanity, so I'm not going to give Mr. Starbuck Mugabe a PHD in Neurosurgery.
But as you said, certain degrees such as IT or History can be useful, especially if you're just after a normal job which pays relatively well and doesn't require the skills from a degree anyway other than just to get past the interview.
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Just the fact that you think that there's a "university degree" for being "an airline pilot" makes me sad.
Nobody's going to pay a grand for a degree that they can't back up with their own skills and knowledge. I expect that the vast majority of people getting these degrees are either in the liberal arts fields or self-taught computer whizzes. Next time you open your mouth just go on any gov't website and try to apply for a desk job. You'll see that they accept degrees in Philosophy, Psychology, History, Politics and so on. That's because the vast majority of people who get a lib arts degree will go to work in a field that has nothing to do with their major. When seeing a BA History degree from Oxford an employer's not going to jump up and say "gee golly boy, this chap better know ALL The important dates in history!" - they just want proof that you've been able to take challenging courses and succeed at them for three or four years. Once again, for BA degrees that little diploma is a test of intelligence and dedication, not your knowledge in a specific area.
Seriously though, how do you think you're going to bullshit your way into a job? A degree is just the foot in the door, unless its for a bullshit social job like HR, management, socialworker/psychologist/etc...then eventually you're going to run into the little problem of not knowing what the fuck you're doing and i'd imagine people will start to notice. On top of that alot of jobs require certs/licenses that this guy prob wont be able to get, you gonna get certified in something you know nothing about?
God i hope this guy isnt doing these for any positions like doctor or airline pilot.....
bump !
exactly why i wants mine !
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To bad Sweden wasnt listen in your countrys :D
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:) im gettin mine in liberal arts,
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Get a degree in English! It's useless!
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I'd like a Phd in Art history specifically of Da Vinchi and machiavelli from the time periods of August 17th, 1515 to May 2nd, 1516...you know so I can get a job
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i digg.. but i was thinking since the arts is a big field, i can like be a mentor for kids on a wrong path..
i can do the english easier, but i aint tryna teach that shit ! or be a writer for a paper, like where the opportunities in there ?
im'a be the next .. JK rawlkings or whatever her name was haha
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:P theres no degree that can help you out there though, unless you wanted to become an editor
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and be a grumpy fuck a Jonah J. Jameson ? fuk yea !
get me SPIDER MAN ! comics sounds bomb !
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J.K. Rawlings
/facepalm ::)
So I'm still waiting on ONE person ???
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Just the fact that you think that there's a "university degree" for being "an airline pilot" makes me sad.
Since making the offer in the forums here, you'd be surprised at some of the hilarious things people have asked me for, that's why I ended up putting the comment in a post a few pages back that if someone can't spell correctly I'm not going to enroll them in Harvard Law.
I have a certain level or reputation to maintain with my contacts and I actually care about humanity, so I'm not going to give Mr. Starbuck Mugabe a PHD in Neurosurgery.
But as you said, certain degrees such as IT or History can be useful, especially if you're just after a normal job which pays relatively well and doesn't require the skills from a degree anyway other than just to get past the interview.
Cool, can you get me a degree from devry?
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I am still awaiting visual proof from oscar promised to me by thursday lunch time so if you do not hear back from me over the weekend assume I never received this. I will update if he sends.
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I am still awaiting visual proof from oscar promised to me by thursday lunch time so if you do not hear back from me over the weekend assume I never received this. I will update if he sends.
What visual proof are you expecting ? From what he told us so far the degrees come straight from the university to your address.
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Good News Everyone! noneac has stepped up to take YouWillNeverKnow's place. I'm just waiting on Tyl3rdurden's visual confirmation to move forward :)
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i'm not overly optimistic as expectations are set way too high. but i would like to thank caparino and everyone else for having the brains and balls for making this happen.
knowing for sure is better than not knowing.
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it is indeed and i for one hope this turns out to be genuine as its a great opportunity for a lot of us here to taking one step closer to bettering our lifestyle, hope it goes well for everyone involved .
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it is indeed and i for one hope this turns out to be genuine as its a great opportunity for a lot of us here to taking one step closer to bettering our lifestyle, hope it goes well for everyone involved .
Aye aye mate
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Just to keep you all updated, I'll be emailing Tyl3rdurden their visual confirmation directly, and in a couple of hours, possibly this evening. I'm literally just blurring out the other names on the database at the moment. Been really busy so stuff like this has taken a back seat, but Tyl3rdurden's degree has been ordered (completed yesterday) so they will be getting it soon anyway. Obviously I won't post it here because it contains names and other sensitive information but I'm sure Tyl3rdurden will confirm it themselves.
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Just to keep you all updated, I'll be emailing Tyl3rdurden their visual confirmation directly, and in a couple of hours, possibly this evening. I'm literally just blurring out the other names on the database at the moment. Been really busy so stuff like this has taken a back seat, but Tyl3rdurden's degree has been ordered (completed yesterday) so they will be getting it soon anyway. Obviously I won't post it here because it contains names and other sensitive information but I'm sure Tyl3rdurden will confirm it themselves.
sounds promising, i will be watching this thread very closely
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Good News Everyone! noneac has stepped up to take YouWillNeverKnow's place. I'm just waiting on Tyl3rdurden's visual confirmation to move forward :)
Every time you post 'Good News Everyone!', it plays back in my head as the professor is saying it...god dammit lol
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Good News Everyone! noneac has stepped up to take YouWillNeverKnow's place. I'm just waiting on Tyl3rdurden's visual confirmation to move forward :)
Every time you post 'Good News Everyone!', it plays back in my head as the professor is saying it...god dammit lol
It's like I do it on purpose or something... :D
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You should buy a degree in education and be a professor or a mad scientist.
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Good News Everyone! noneac has stepped up to take YouWillNeverKnow's place. I'm just waiting on Tyl3rdurden's visual confirmation to move forward :)
Every time you post 'Good News Everyone!', it plays back in my head as the professor is saying it...god dammit lol
It's like I do it on purpose or something... :D
I know you do haha, but dammit, I watch that show too much, but I can't help it :-\
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You should buy a degree in education and be a professor or a mad scientist.
That's what my REAL degree is gonna be in :D
I'm just using this opportunity to get a Comp Sci degree so I don't have to work bullshit jobs till I'm done!
Good News Everyone! noneac has stepped up to take YouWillNeverKnow's place. I'm just waiting on Tyl3rdurden's visual confirmation to move forward :)
Every time you post 'Good News Everyone!', it plays back in my head as the professor is saying it...god dammit lol
It's like I do it on purpose or something... :D
I know you do haha, but dammit, I watch that show too much, but I can't help it :-\
It's a great show! It's actually thought provoking at times yet still funny :)
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Then maybe you can build some kind of DEATH CLOCK
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You should buy a degree in education and be a professor or a mad scientist.
That's what my REAL degree is gonna be in :D
I'm just using this opportunity to get a Comp Sci degree so I don't have to work bullshit jobs till I'm done!
Good News Everyone! noneac has stepped up to take YouWillNeverKnow's place. I'm just waiting on Tyl3rdurden's visual confirmation to move forward :)
Every time you post 'Good News Everyone!', it plays back in my head as the professor is saying it...god dammit lol
It's like I do it on purpose or something... :D
I know you do haha, but dammit, I watch that show too much, but I can't help it :-\
It's a great show! It's actually thought provoking at times yet still funny :)
Agreed 100% haha, and gotta love zoidberg, WUBWUBWUBWUBWUB -crab walk- ^-^
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Bender is the best
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If this turns out to be legitimate, I can see a lot of SR users wanting to invest in a computer science related degree. Some serious money could be made here, especially if no other vendors step up. It'd also just be a great way to help out members of the community, with a price of course ;)
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I already forgot how much a regular degree costs? What is it in USD? How much for a PhD? A 4 year does not do me any good. I need power paper. I need to be referred to as Dr. Wizdom. Then I need a car...
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Oscar, sent message.
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It all depends on the university you go to. A decently priced bachelor's will cost $50k.
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Thanks but I meant what is the price for this fake degree?
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Thanks but I meant what is the price for this fake degree?
They aren't fake degree's, they are real degrees, and the prices vary depending what you want.
Anyway I'm pretty close to the limit I can do due to a huge surge in interest and I have real world work to do as well!
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Yeah they are real like Pamela Anderson's tits.
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Thanks but I meant what is the price for this fake degree?
They aren't fake degree's, they are real degrees, and the prices vary depending what you want.
Anyway I'm pretty close to the limit I can do due to a huge surge in interest and I have real world work to do as well!
Are you pretty close to giving Tyler his visual?
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Im not one to judge but I must admit I could throw together a student number and screen shot in about 20 mins tops and thats if I am un familiar with photo shot etc
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Just do your research on buyers to see if they're LEO
You don't want this blessing to fall in the wrong hands and ruin for everyone else.
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Just do your research on buyers to see if they're LEO
You don't want this blessing to fall in the wrong hands and ruin for everyone else.
although oscar may be breaking many laws as a customer your only breaking the law if you attempt to use the degree to gain a job
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Are you pretty close to giving Tyler his visual?
Yes I've sent him his visual.
although oscar may be breaking many laws as a customer your only breaking the law if you attempt to use the degree to gain a job
Exactly. It's me who takes all the risk here, as an end user you could simply claim it was a joke to put up on your wall.
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Oscar has indeed sent me visual confirmation, I have faith in him although I do have to mention that the visual confirmation does not confirm anything and can easily be created on photoshop or a similar program in a few minutes.This is not a knock at you oscar I just feel I have to mention the facts from my point of view!
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Oscar has indeed sent me visual confirmation, I have faith in him although I do have to mention that the visual confirmation does not confirm anything and can easily be created on photoshop or a similar program in a few minutes.This is not a knock at you oscar I just feel I have to mention the facts from my point of view!
That's fine.
Just to confirm the visual confirmation is purely a screenshot of the Universities SQL degree database and your requested details entered into it.
It's pretty boring really. Part of me wishes I'd never offered this service, and just offered the degrees in the 10 to 14 days delivered to door. But I suppose it's nice for people to know after 3 days or so that the details have been entered and the paperwork is on its way.
If people want an example of what the visual confirmation will look like before buying from me, they just need to ask. Obviously I blur out names because I don't want to get normal people into trouble.
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Oscar has indeed sent me visual confirmation, I have faith in him although I do have to mention that the visual confirmation does not confirm anything and can easily be created on photoshop or a similar program in a few minutes.This is not a knock at you oscar I just feel I have to mention the facts from my point of view!
That's fine.
Just to confirm the visual confirmation is purely a screenshot of the Universities SQL degree database and your requested details entered into it.
It's pretty boring really. Part of me wishes I'd never offered this service, and just offered the degrees in the 10 to 14 days delivered to door. But I suppose it's nice for people to know after 3 days or so that the details have been entered and the paperwork is on its way.
If people want an example of what the visual confirmation will look like before buying from me, they just need to ask. Obviously I blur out names because I don't want to get normal people into trouble.
I thank you very much for your service! I just feel I have to tell my fellow SR users the exact situation!
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I honestly wouldn't mind teaching at a professor level at a state college. Maybe a little psychology, theoretical physics or a hands on rape course ;)
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Maybe a little psychology, theoretical physics or a hands on rape course ;)
WTF?!?! :o
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Maybe a little psychology, theoretical physics or a hands on rape course ;)
WTF?!?! :o
I second this WTF
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You know the RAPE PREVENTION courses they offer to students if requested? That one. :p
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So. in poking my nose around darknet; checking out the competition and what not, I find:
http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=4553
hmm. I told you I want to see how this plays out.
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To be perfectly honest I think escrow will save everyone a chaotic speculation event. I have vendors account and stay in escrow ALL the time. It helps both sides. Oz gets paid when theI info checks out the very instant that records can be verified.
A joint email account with a mod/trusted member should be arranged so Oz can get legitimate confirmation from 2the parties. Funds released and everyone is happy.
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I already forgot how much a regular degree costs? What is it in USD? How much for a PhD? A 4 year does not do me any good. I need power paper. I need to be referred to as Dr. Wizdom. Then I need a car...
Come on, the guy is giving away fully-auditable degrees AT COST and you want him to pop in here just to repeat what he's said?
Ugh, I'll answer these for you but seriously, how do you expect to be believable with a degree if you're too lazy to read replies on a forum? "Yes sir Mr. Interviewer sir, I definitely have the intellectual capacity to spend years and years writing many-thousand-word research papers.. how much does this job pay again? I already forgot and am too lazy to flip through your brochure here to find out"
I already forgot how much a regular degree costs?
£250 from the lesser UK schools like Reading University.
What is it in USD?
Seriously? Type in "250gbp in usd" into Google...
How much for a PhD?
All degrees from one university are the same price, there's no difference in Bachelors/Masters/Doctorate diplomas.
A 4 year does not do me any good.
UK bachelor degrees run three years.
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To be perfectly honest I think escrow will save everyone a chaotic speculation event. I have vendors account and stay in escrow ALL the time. It helps both sides. Oz gets paid when theI info checks out the very instant that records can be verified.
A joint email account with a mod/trusted member should be arranged so Oz can get legitimate confirmation from 2the parties. Funds released and everyone is happy.
I'm an escrow fucking proselytizer, that being said Oz claims that he's selling the degrees practically at cost (just whatever his contacts at the particular uni charge him + I think he said 50 quid for his troubles) so if he's legit I don't expect him to pony up cash for a vendor account for doing the community a favour.
Finally, he's not doing this service for long - he only expected a few responses so he's a bit overwhelmed by all the interest, early in the thread he said that he's closing up shop in August and someone else said that he's taking a 12-18 month break. So if he's only going to be around for another few weeks I bet he doesn't really care about escrow, though he has posted that he's open to the idea if he doesn't have to pay for a seller's account.
Of course if he's a scammer then I'll be eating my words and it will confirm forever that EVERYONE should ALWAYS use escrow no matter WHAT.
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I don't have an interest in purchasing one of these at the moment, but I do find this very interesting.
This might have been addressed already, if so forgive me, but what would happen if the degrees are discovered to be false? How much danger would the buyer be in?
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Ok SQL Injection, you got me. I was way lazy. and I'm not even smart enough to do a SQL injection. But thanks. I could blame it on slow Tor connection fatigue but it was 90% lazy.
Here's a real question: What are the chances of someone finding out about the falseness in the future and making the degree unverifiable?
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Hi Oscar,
I am interested in a degree, probably from a US university. Can you list what schools are available, and prices? Besides name and address, what personal information would you require? Would I "complete" my degree on the date that your people enter it into the system, or can I choose a date in the past?
Thank you,
zG
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Who writes the papers for the post graduate degrees ? Or are the paper missing from the file ?
There are people that will do it for you but that will cost like $20 a page.
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Ok SQL Injection, you got me. I was way lazy. and I'm not even smart enough to do a SQL injection. But thanks. I could blame it on slow Tor connection fatigue but it was 90% lazy.
Here's a real question: What are the chances of someone finding out about the falseness in the future and making the degree unverifiable?
There's always a chance. I'm not willing to risk having a fake degree and a career based on a lie (sorry guys). I'm so close to finishing my degree I can taste it.
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In response to all the requests and everybody being unsure - I will in the next few days be opening a new vendor account and as agreed by myself and Oz, I will handle all the sales as he does the internal workings to ensure a better service. When a vendor account has been established, I will be more than happy to offer an escrow only service for those who are unsure.
Any questions - pop me a message.
How do you plan on handling disputes? Lets say a customer transmits info via pgp 14 days pass and then the cust disputess this and opens up a resolution. How will SR admins be able to confirm if the work is done? short of you giving the SR admin your pgp details so they can unencrypt the info in the order Im curious how this will be accomplished.
I think they should refund ALL the customers that are not happy and then simply delete them from the database.
The customer has not way to scum the vendor since they have the power to take their service back.
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There's always a chance. I'm not willing to risk having a fake degree and a career based on a lie (sorry guys). I'm so close to finishing my degree I can taste it.
Well how nice for your fortunate life, its opportunities, and your morality. Some people don't have those things and refuse to get worked over by the system, so opportunities such as these are literally a godsend.
Now. I'm not one of those people and am in the process of getting my degree as well. I just refuse to work a bullshit job in the meanwhile until I get my degree :D
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There's always a chance. I'm not willing to risk having a fake degree and a career based on a lie (sorry guys). I'm so close to finishing my degree I can taste it.
Well how nice for your fortunate life, its opportunities, and your morality. Some people don't have those things and refuse to get worked over by the system, so opportunities such as these are literally a godsend.
Now. I'm not one of those people and am in the process of getting my degree as well. I just refuse to work a bullshit job in the meanwhile until I get my degree :D
My philosophy is that if you can beat the system and not get caught, then you deserve it :)
I'm pretty sure that's the only way people get ahead. Unless you're the upper class of course, then you morph the system itself to your liking instead.
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this is getting boring!
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So. in poking my nose around darknet; checking out the competition and what not, I find:
http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=4553
hmm. I told you I want to see how this plays out.
Seriously. No one else found this "interesting"? seriously?
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i did, i was like can u sell bags, degrees, and hitman services ? 8) the Terminator Lives
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i did, i was like can u sell bags, degrees, and hitman services ? 8) the Terminator Lives
No wonder. No one looked because you have to be logged in to see it. Here:
Price 283.20895 BTC (http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/img/us.png) $ 2,516.00 (http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/img/gb.png) £ 1,600.00 (http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/img/europeanunion.png) € 2,043.87 Ship from United Kingdom Ship to Anywhere Stock 25 Created in 2012-07-20 19:36 UTC Last update 2012-07-28 19:28 UTC
Need a new qualification? Don't like university?
We can now offer fully-auditable degree's from any of the follow UK universities:
- Oxford
- Cambridge
- London School of Economics
- Reading University
- Several US Universities now available! Message us for more info!
All certificates are genuinely issued directly from the university of your choice in any subject that the particular university offers! You can choose what subject you want it in, what grades you want it as (First Class, Second Class, Honours etc) and even what date it was issued if you "studied" several years ago!
By calling up the university or even the UK regulators, you can have the certificate verified once you receive it to show the quality of our work. Perfect for adding a punch to your CV anywhere in the world! We even provide full attendance records for every day of lecture and exams!
If you lose your certificate - for a small charge, the original university it was issued from will replace it along with the full set of records. So even if you lose what you purchase from us, you can replace it in future indefinitely!
Stock is limited to 25 so please get in touch!
Once ordered - the final product should be delivered within 14 days!
We also now offer standalone A level results! See below:
http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=4671
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So. in poking my nose around darknet; checking out the competition and what not, I find:
http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=4553
hmm. I told you I want to see how this plays out.
Seriously. No one else found this "interesting"? seriously?
Stock is limited to 25 so please get in touch!
This isn't me by the way. Like I said weeks ago in this thread I only offer my services here. There's no way I could do 25 lol!
It's possible someone is buying them off me and then selling them on again at a profit, but I'm not aware of that. They'd have to be using a different SR account each time because I've not sold 2 to any 1 person yet, other than a normal & a masters to a few people as a set.
I can't view the link you posted, wants some kind of log in, but what are they selling them for? Need to see if I'm charging too cheap!
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Price 283.20895 BTC $ 2,516.00
Im not trying to sound accusatory here, but it sounds just like you. Even the schools offered.
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Price 283.20895 BTC $ 2,516.00
Im not trying to sound accusatory here, but it sounds just like you. Even the schools offered.
You are being accusatory.
I charge from a minimum of £250 / $390 / 42 Bitcoins ... to a MAXIMUM of £750 / $1180 / 126 Bitcoins.
Not a penny / dollar / bitcoin more.
NOT EVER.
Read my post from earlier in this forum here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=25690.msg364052#msg364052
This isn't a business. I'm not here to make profit. I'm not on ANY other websites.
From the maximum I charge, which is £750 for a Redbrick / Ivy League Uni such as Harvard or Oxford I make £50. Which after bitcoin transaction fees etc is really like £30. It's even less for lower Uni's, a joke really.
Look at all my other posts on this forum. I'm here to help people and have fun.
Even the schools offered.
Actually after reviewing your earlier post, it does sound a bit like the schools I offer, although they haven't listed any of the US ones that I do, so maybe it was someone who read this thread early on, and decided they could make some profit on what I offer?
When did they post that advert on BMR? Was it after I made my offers here? Also I advise everyone, stay away from BMR!!! STAY AWAY!!!! It's dangerous and full of scammers / idiots. I've not ever seen a single positive thing written about it here.
OZ
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OSCAR try to slave me a slot for 1, i just want to get my money in soon and wheres this proof in picture ?
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Ok SQL Injection, you got me. I was way lazy. and I'm not even smart enough to do a SQL injection. But thanks. I could blame it on slow Tor connection fatigue but it was 90% lazy.
Here's a real question: What are the chances of someone finding out about the falseness in the future and making the degree unverifiable?
No problem, dude. I was probably overly harsh, but that's because I'm an asshole in general. What you have to realize is that people are asking the same questions over and over and over in this thread and I just keep thinking "if you can't be arsed to skim some posts on the internet to find out, how are you going to be able to convince anyone that you managed to write essays and pass exams year after year?"
So yeah, pardon my abruptness, heh. And to answer your question.. I have no clue. I don't know about how Oz's people get all the information in there or what kind of records are kept. I'm hoping that the chances of being found out are "slim to none" but it's possible that if one of them kept a record of all the names s/he's entered they'll give them up in exchange for not going to jail for "fraudulent use of a computer system" or some shit.
You should be more worried about whether your LEGIT past can bit you in the ass with these. If you've been working as a pallet-loader at a warehouse in NYC from 2008-2012 and you decide to improve your life by getting a degree from Cambridge graduating in 2012, make sure that you have a good excuse if your employer ever pulls your records of employment and finds out that you've been attending full-time uni in England and working full-time in The Bronx simultaneously ;)
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You should be more worried about whether your LEGIT past can bit you in the ass with these. If you've been working as a pallet-loader at a warehouse in NYC from 2008-2012 and you decide to improve your life by getting a degree from Cambridge graduating in 2012, make sure that you have a good excuse if your employer ever pulls your records of employment and finds out that you've been attending full-time uni in England and working full-time in The Bronx simultaneously ;)
This is true, and why I won't enroll people in Harvard who can't even spell. It wont benefit them or me. I try my best to ask people what past academic stuff or work stuff they want included in their degree file, so we can come to a realistic solution, but if they lie to me and lie to themselves then there's no helping them.
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So. in poking my nose around darknet; checking out the competition and what not, I find:
http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=4553
hmm. I told you I want to see how this plays out.
Seriously. No one else found this "interesting"? seriously?
People found it interesting back in page 4 of this thread when it was first posted, not much else to say about it..
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OSCAR try to slave me a slot for 1, i just want to get my money in soon and wheres this proof in picture ?
I just read a couple of your posts, just being curious what kind of people are looking to take Oz up on his offer...
im'a probably burn it, then fuk it, i just wanted to complete a order, i feel if anything maybe it could have a purpose, cuz this was from my "supposed" baby boy that a bitch tried to play me over child support for, so for like almost 1 year i been payin' child support till' just recently i got a motion for a paternity test, and bam, found out the baby wasnt mine ! so i got some backowed payments, but i just got this lying around, and thier going to have to change the baby's last name for sure, so this will just be here
8) True Story lol. i know it seems Shady Vinny-G, its just some personal vendetta ,, hahah fuk dat bitch !
yall can fuck my bitch too, its HAPPY HOUR :)
Now be honest with me. Do you realllly think you're university material? Even FAKE university material?
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lol, my personal life and school life are completley different, hahah i made dean list two years in a row...other than that i excell in all my curriculum... but dont worry i wont go through your posts and "judge" you.. another +1for being what you think is "smart" well after the 72 hours are up.. i gave u positive karma yesterday.. now thats HONEST.
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Price 283.20895 BTC $ 2,516.00
Im not trying to sound accusatory here, but it sounds just like you. Even the schools offered.
You are being accusatory.
I charge from a minimum of £250 / $390 / 42 Bitcoins ... to a MAXIMUM of £750 / $1180 / 126 Bitcoins.
Not a penny / dollar / bitcoin more.
NOT EVER.
Read my post from earlier in this forum here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=25690.msg364052#msg364052
This isn't a business. I'm not here to make profit. I'm not on ANY other websites.
From the maximum I charge, which is £750 for a Redbrick / Ivy League Uni such as Harvard or Oxford I make £50. Which after bitcoin transaction fees etc is really like £30. It's even less for lower Uni's, a joke really.
Look at all my other posts on this forum. I'm here to help people and have fun.
Even the schools offered.
Actually after reviewing your earlier post, it does sound a bit like the schools I offer, although they haven't listed any of the US ones that I do, so maybe it was someone who read this thread early on, and decided they could make some profit on what I offer?
When did they post that advert on BMR? Was it after I made my offers here? Also I advise everyone, stay away from BMR!!! STAY AWAY!!!! It's dangerous and full of scammers / idiots. I've not ever seen a single positive thing written about it here.
OZ
I am BEING accusatory, but not trying to SOUND that way. I accept your defense. It just particular to me that this guy offers the EXACT same schools that you first mentioned. A lot of his wording is phrased the way you have spoken.
Surly you can not deny that this looks like you from the outside. Can you?
Yes BMR is silly. It was actually my first time ever there. I do not intend on going back or sell anything there, but I had to check it out.
Assuming you are telling the truth (which I have no reason NOT to believe you) doesn't it bother you that someone is scamming your words? It would bother me. It would (if nothing else) make me worry that people may find it and think it is me. Much like I did.
Anyway. I hope this all works out for you. My only remaining wonder is why you put so much effort and headache into a "favor" that you do not intend to turn into a business. Especially for how much? 50GBP?
I would have said "fuck all ya'll" a long time ago.
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yup.. Wordup ' Toadstool !
on another note,, wheres the upload of the image OSCAR promised ?
i need that PHD, so i can be your very own Dr.Kavorkian
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So what happens when you cheat at life and get to the end? Like if you started the game with the master sword and 9999gp, what would be the point.
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lol, i dont know, but i grew up playin master blaster,, i loved dat game shit was cool, the lil' song in da begining when da frog story comes out is classic !
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Price 283.20895 BTC $ 2,516.00
Im not trying to sound accusatory here, but it sounds just like you. Even the schools offered.
You are being accusatory.
I charge from a minimum of £250 / $390 / 42 Bitcoins ... to a MAXIMUM of £750 / $1180 / 126 Bitcoins.
Not a penny / dollar / bitcoin more.
NOT EVER.
Read my post from earlier in this forum here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=25690.msg364052#msg364052
This isn't a business. I'm not here to make profit. I'm not on ANY other websites.
From the maximum I charge, which is £750 for a Redbrick / Ivy League Uni such as Harvard or Oxford I make £50. Which after bitcoin transaction fees etc is really like £30. It's even less for lower Uni's, a joke really.
Look at all my other posts on this forum. I'm here to help people and have fun.
Even the schools offered.
Actually after reviewing your earlier post, it does sound a bit like the schools I offer, although they haven't listed any of the US ones that I do, so maybe it was someone who read this thread early on, and decided they could make some profit on what I offer?
When did they post that advert on BMR? Was it after I made my offers here? Also I advise everyone, stay away from BMR!!! STAY AWAY!!!! It's dangerous and full of scammers / idiots. I've not ever seen a single positive thing written about it here.
OZ
I am BEING accusatory, but not trying to SOUND that way. I accept your defense. It just particular to me that this guy offers the EXACT same schools that you first mentioned. A lot of his wording is phrased the way you have spoken.
Surly you can not deny that this looks like you from the outside. Can you?
Yes BMR is silly. It was actually my first time ever there. I do not intend on going back or sell anything there, but I had to check it out.
Assuming you are telling the truth (which I have no reason NOT to believe you) doesn't it bother you that someone is scamming your words? It would bother me. It would (if nothing else) make me worry that people may find it and think it is me. Much like I did.
Anyway. I hope this all works out for you. My only remaining wonder is why you put so much effort and headache into a "favor" that you do not intend to turn into a business. Especially for how much? 50GBP?
I would have said "fuck all ya'll" a long time ago.
The BMR vendor apparently closed shop and removed all his listings.
This is what I was told from him.
The Silk Road seller is my associate, we are removing them from SR very soon as
it goes against their rules. You have about 24 hours left to purchase from there
before we close shop. The reason for the higher prices is that 750/200 are
prices which do not include profit where we offered them to friends and family -
but we cannot operate on that basis for much longer and since now we are going
public about it, there is a further element of danger.
TheUnion
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There's always a chance. I'm not willing to risk having a fake degree and a career based on a lie (sorry guys). I'm so close to finishing my degree I can taste it.
Well how nice for your fortunate life, its opportunities, and your morality. Some people don't have those things and refuse to get worked over by the system, so opportunities such as these are literally a godsend.
Now. I'm not one of those people and am in the process of getting my degree as well. I just refuse to work a bullshit job in the meanwhile until I get my degree :D
There's a lot of assumptions in that comment.
Mainly I'm just worried I'd get caught with the fake degree. I'm worried about the consequences, as I don't like getting in trouble and am afraid of punishment.
I also wouldn't call myself fortunate. I'm not excited to be fucked with student loan debt in this economy.
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There's always a chance. I'm not willing to risk having a fake degree and a career based on a lie (sorry guys). I'm so close to finishing my degree I can taste it.
Well how nice for your fortunate life, its opportunities, and your morality. Some people don't have those things and refuse to get worked over by the system, so opportunities such as these are literally a godsend.
Now. I'm not one of those people and am in the process of getting my degree as well. I just refuse to work a bullshit job in the meanwhile until I get my degree :D
There's a lot of assumptions in that comment.
Mainly I'm just worried I'd get caught with the fake degree. I'm worried about the consequences, as I don't like getting in trouble and am afraid of punishment.
I also wouldn't call myself fortunate. I'm not excited to be fucked with student loan debt in this economy.
Apparently this is auditable so you don't have to worry about that. Take a chance once in a while man, and only get a degree if you're willing to acquire the skills and knowledge that satisfy the job requirements for entry level. Hell, people get ahead if they take shortcuts. I've taken many, gotten ahead. Recently though, I stopped for some reason and my life's never been harder...
Along comes oscar and I have cheat codes for life all of a sudden? Hell yeah ima eat those rare candies and level up so I can fight the elite four faster instead of having to level up against those assholes inside victory road cave.
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Forget buying fake degree's, it's risky as hell and a waste of time.
Want to know the real shortcut to getting a university degree?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33029.0
Requires very little work, and you have a great time.
It's how I got mine, and I can confirm that it works 100%. ;)
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Forget buying fake degree's, it's risky as hell and a waste of time.
Want to know the real shortcut to getting a university degree?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33029.0
Requires very little work, and you have a great time.
It's how I got mine, and I can confirm that it works 100%. ;)
Lol, tried it, didn't work, ended up in hospital over it.
You might as well just take speed.
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You can just give yourself any university degree you want at open courseware MIT site.
If you can't find the up to date lecture streams you're looking for, check the courses homepage it'll have vid links.
Especially now is a good time, because all the spring/fall courses are completed and still up online, all the compsci and electrical engineering is up even the coveted network security courses.
If you lack prereq for math then go to khanacademy and get all the math you need.
Once you have a basic undergrad understanding of the material, start showing up to free lectures at a local university near you. Where I live there are 3 universities that do this, anybody can attend for free. You meet people there and can get a job in that field just by social engineering them with your awesome self knowledge. Forget needing a degree if you can't get one.
The only thing you must absolutely have a degree to work in the field is medicine and lawyer. Can't just show up and write the bar exam, but you can use MIT to whizz through the material once you sign up to real univ. Other than that, computer science doesn't req a degree if you show up and prove what you can do.
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i am interested please let me know if you can get some.
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There's always a chance. I'm not willing to risk having a fake degree and a career based on a lie (sorry guys). I'm so close to finishing my degree I can taste it.
Well how nice for your fortunate life, its opportunities, and your morality. Some people don't have those things and refuse to get worked over by the system, so opportunities such as these are literally a godsend.
Now. I'm not one of those people and am in the process of getting my degree as well. I just refuse to work a bullshit job in the meanwhile until I get my degree :D
There's a lot of assumptions in that comment.
Mainly I'm just worried I'd get caught with the fake degree. I'm worried about the consequences, as I don't like getting in trouble and am afraid of punishment.
I also wouldn't call myself fortunate. I'm not excited to be fucked with student loan debt in this economy.
Apparently this is auditable so you don't have to worry about that. Take a chance once in a while man, and only get a degree if you're willing to acquire the skills and knowledge that satisfy the job requirements for entry level. Hell, people get ahead if they take shortcuts. I've taken many, gotten ahead. Recently though, I stopped for some reason and my life's never been harder...
Along comes oscar and I have cheat codes for life all of a sudden? Hell yeah ima eat those rare candies and level up so I can fight the elite four faster instead of having to level up against those assholes inside victory road cave.
Took a chance once, didn't wear a condom. Yeah.....
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There's always a chance. I'm not willing to risk having a fake degree and a career based on a lie (sorry guys). I'm so close to finishing my degree I can taste it.
Well how nice for your fortunate life, its opportunities, and your morality. Some people don't have those things and refuse to get worked over by the system, so opportunities such as these are literally a godsend.
Now. I'm not one of those people and am in the process of getting my degree as well. I just refuse to work a bullshit job in the meanwhile until I get my degree :D
There's a lot of assumptions in that comment.
Mainly I'm just worried I'd get caught with the fake degree. I'm worried about the consequences, as I don't like getting in trouble and am afraid of punishment.
I also wouldn't call myself fortunate. I'm not excited to be fucked with student loan debt in this economy.
Apparently this is auditable so you don't have to worry about that. Take a chance once in a while man, and only get a degree if you're willing to acquire the skills and knowledge that satisfy the job requirements for entry level. Hell, people get ahead if they take shortcuts. I've taken many, gotten ahead. Recently though, I stopped for some reason and my life's never been harder...
Along comes oscar and I have cheat codes for life all of a sudden? Hell yeah ima eat those rare candies and level up so I can fight the elite four faster instead of having to level up against those assholes inside victory road cave.
Took a chance once, didn't wear a condom. Yeah.....
Only made the other person get tested and use birth control first.
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Can you get a computer science degree from UT--University of Texas at Austin???
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Just to give everyone a quick update, I've done most people's degree's now into the system and paperwork is being arranged by my contacts.
A few people have been asking for their visual proof, I'm going back over every degree I've done and arranging that for everyone now. I'll be sending it out by PM about midnight UK time tonight or tomorrow (Tuesday) but absolutely no later. (Lots to do, taking ages!! taking time off work to do this stuff for you guys...) I wanted to get the main bulk of the actual degree work done before going back and doing screenshots etc. I also have a few questions for a couple of people regards to what they want on their transcripts, but will do that via PM too.
Also just to reiterate I will be taking last orders on Friday, that is this Friday 3rd August. I need to take some time off to relax, and focus on my normal day to day work, also my contact and I agree that it's a good time to stop before the Uni's / Colleges start winding up for the next academic year. We've done more this past few months than ever before, and want to keep things low key. I'm already personally slightly disturbed by the level of interest, as I said a few pages back, I thought this was going to be one or two people!!
I will be back to do more degrees in late 2013 or probably 2014 as promised, and will still be here on these forum's helping people with other issues as normal and enjoying the other products available ;D
Obviously for people who I'm helping to enroll, I'll still be around to continue the process with you.
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Soooo.... has anyone received proof from oscar yet?
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Nope, still waiting in spite of being told I'd have received it yesterday ???
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What I dont understand is if Tyler is in the database why doesnt he just call to confirm it.
Are you in the database Cap ?
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What I dont understand is if Tyler is in the database why doesnt he just call to confirm it.
Are you in the database Cap ?
It's only proof I've entered it, you don't phone to check until you get the paperwork or until I know it has at least been dispatched.
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What I dont understand is if Tyler is in the database why doesnt he just call to confirm it.
Are you in the database Cap ?
It's only proof I've entered it, you don't phone to check until you get the paperwork or until I know it has at least been dispatched.
I am sorry I dont get it.
If I am in the university database what difference does it make if I have the paperwork or not ?
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Actually if I ended up ordering one I wouldnt want the paperwork.
Why give anyone my address when I request the paperwork from the university directly.
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this is a bad ass thread. so uk unis available are oxford cambridge and reading?
And they are audtiable?
Hmm, prices?
Definitly amazing, going to buy this for a lil self birthday present :)
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I am sorry I dont get it.
If I am in the university database what difference does it make if I have the paperwork or not ?
Because the University scans your certificate after they've printed and puts it into the database as proof of certificate, so they know what your original looks like if they need to replace it and for other legal reasons. If you phone up and ask for a replacement, or check, and it hasn't been scanned in yet, then you're screwed. I'm not sure if EVERY university does this, but a large amount in the UK do, especially ones under the UCAS umbrella, as they like to share results etc centrally.
Actually if I ended up ordering one I wouldnt want the paperwork.
Why give anyone my address when I request the paperwork from the university directly.
A lot of people ask me for this service too, and it's something I can provide in the UK, you pretend that you lost your paperwork and reorder it yourself, however it won't work if your degree was issued in this year as I explain above. It means you don't have to give me your address and saves me some work, so I'm happy to do that too if someone wants.
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Updates:
I've sent Caparino his visual stuff now.
I think I've done most people, perhaps one or two who haven't been finished but I need to ask them a few questions before proceeding.
Apologies for any delays, I've been getting hundreds of messages and only slept a few hours each night. I look terrible so I need a rest now... I can't wait until I'm not doing any more!
If anyone needs my help, just message me.
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Updates:
I've sent Caparino his visual stuff now.
I think I've done most people, perhaps one or two who haven't been finished but I need to ask them a few questions before proceeding.
Apologies for any delays, I've been getting hundreds of messages and only slept a few hours each night. I look terrible so I need a rest now... I can't wait until I'm not doing any more!
If anyone needs my help, just message me.
The visuals are indeed with me. Though it doesn't necessarily mean this degree's a 100% legitimate yet, the course codes check out with the university I ordered from for my chosen major, so that's a very good sign.
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Updates:
I've sent Caparino his visual stuff now.
I think I've done most people, perhaps one or two who haven't been finished but I need to ask them a few questions before proceeding.
Apologies for any delays, I've been getting hundreds of messages and only slept a few hours each night. I look terrible so I need a rest now... I can't wait until I'm not doing any more!
If anyone needs my help, just message me.
Updates:
I've sent Caparino his visual stuff now.
I think I've done most people, perhaps one or two who haven't been finished but I need to ask them a few questions before proceeding.
Apologies for any delays, I've been getting hundreds of messages and only slept a few hours each night. I look terrible so I need a rest now... I can't wait until I'm not doing any more!
If anyone needs my help, just message me.
The visuals are indeed with me. Though it doesn't necessarily mean this degree's a 100% legitimate yet, the course codes check out with the university I ordered from for my chosen major, so that's a very good sign.
Thank you both for your time, a degree in the IT field would greatly benefit me so I'm hoping this is legit (not doubting it with so much effort from oscar and cap)
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There's always a chance. I'm not willing to risk having a fake degree and a career based on a lie (sorry guys). I'm so close to finishing my degree I can taste it.
Well how nice for your fortunate life, its opportunities, and your morality. Some people don't have those things and refuse to get worked over by the system, so opportunities such as these are literally a godsend.
Now. I'm not one of those people and am in the process of getting my degree as well. I just refuse to work a bullshit job in the meanwhile until I get my degree :D
There's a lot of assumptions in that comment.
Mainly I'm just worried I'd get caught with the fake degree. I'm worried about the consequences, as I don't like getting in trouble and am afraid of punishment.
I also wouldn't call myself fortunate. I'm not excited to be fucked with student loan debt in this economy.
Apparently this is auditable so you don't have to worry about that. Take a chance once in a while man, and only get a degree if you're willing to acquire the skills and knowledge that satisfy the job requirements for entry level. Hell, people get ahead if they take shortcuts. I've taken many, gotten ahead. Recently though, I stopped for some reason and my life's never been harder...
Along comes oscar and I have cheat codes for life all of a sudden? Hell yeah ima eat those rare candies and level up so I can fight the elite four faster instead of having to level up against those assholes inside victory road cave.
Took a chance once, didn't wear a condom. Yeah.....
Only made the other person get tested and use birth control first.
lol, shit's so real.
Nobody ever got rich playin by the rules, you gotta manifest your own destiny and make shit happen. It's all about taking the risks to get opportunity. Open up your mind, don't live in fear.
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Hey guys, i am updating this now for my part of the deal with oz.
I am "enrolled" now but still havent received my part of the visuals yet but still awaiting!
Hi Ether, I just messaged you. Am suffering overload with these visual confirmations, but since Caparino confirmed there's, I'm hoping that is enough.
I need to get people enrolled before the Friday deadline, then I can do the visuals with leisure.
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Alright then everybody, I'm gonna go ahead and take hold of my group sample idea. Since there are an amazing amount of members interested in this, and hopefully I'm trusted enough by other members of the forum to write this review (As I've done scores of times before), this is what I plan to do:
I need 9 other members who want a stake in this and really want to test this out, perhaps leading to an amazing opportunity for hundreds on this website:
1. Message me saying you want in, or I'll message you since you've already posted here
2. Screenshots and conversations will be recorded for any contact/transaction I have with both OZ and you.
3. The price from the lesser universities amounts to nearly 50 BTC so we're dividing it into 10; which means each of the 9 investors will send 5 BTC to me on SR, the transactions of which will also be recorded. This way if it reveals to be a scam, then at least we only lose 5 BTC.
4. I'll keep everyone updated every step of the way, every phone conversation, anything I receive in the mail.
5. Upon my receiving the Degree, and given that it's audited, I'll release the good news to my fellow roaders and the 9 investors receive their bitcoins back.
I'm going to put the list of investors here as well, for everyone to see.
1. Caparino
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Message me if you're interested, we might have an amazing thing here!
I have already ordered and payed for one so if people trust me enough as a reliable review you could just use that?
So its been 10 days since Tyler order his degree. If he cant confirm it by now then I call BULLSHIT.
Any thoughts on that Oscar ?
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So its been 10 days since Tyler order his degree. If he cant confirm it by now then I call BULLSHIT.
Any thoughts on that Oscar ?
It's not been 10 days since Tyler ordered his degree. It's been around a week since he actually paid and we started the process. He has been given the exact date he will receive his degree, infact I'm giving him his tracking number tomorrow so I'm sure he'll post it in the forum early next week. Cap will be shortly after that, (possibly up to a week after due to the fact they print them in batches and he asked me to send it to a US address).
I'm keeping him updated at every stage. If he has a problem I'm sure he's more than capable of talking to me rather than you spreading nonsense and rubbish in the forum.
If you actually bothered to read the thread you'll see I've clearly stated several times that the time to actually receive the degree takes 10 to 14 days. Now 10 days after last Wednesday 25th July would be this Saturday 4th at the earliest, and 14 days is Wednesday 8th August, so give me a break. I'm doing my best for everyone, I'm not superhuman and have a life and work outside of here.
Rather than criticize others for trying to better themselves why don't you take a chance yourself? I'm happy to talk to you about everything in detail, even offline if you like.
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July 23 Tyler says he ordred and paid for his degree. Do the math.
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Also very convenient for you to rush everyone to order only a few days before Tyler can officially say you are full of shit.
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July 23 Tyler says he ordred and paid for his degree. Do the math.
We didn't finalize arrangements and I didn't receive the funds then. Remember I have to pay my contacts and Bitcoins aren't exactly easy to work with.
Anyway you do the maths, even if it was July 23rd, you still have to wait until at least Monday 6th until you can start chatting nonsese. I chose 14 days for a reason, based on experience.
Also very convenient for you to rush everyone to order only a few days before Tyler can officially say you are full of shit.
I'm not rushing anybody, I've made it clear from the beginning I'd be stopping in August, way before I even knew Tyler existed. I've also offered and arranged to do the degree's for many people when I'm back doing them in the academic year of 2014 doing more. If people want to wait until then, that's more than fine by me.
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Rather than criticize others for trying to better themselves why don't you take a chance yourself? I'm happy to talk to you about everything in detail, even offline if you like.
Ok ill byte. Choose a chat program and PM me the details.
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Cant find a chat program ? Do you want me to choose one ?
And stop editing your posts I dont know what to reply to anymore.
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Ok ill byte. Choose a chat program and PM me the details.
OK, PM me if you have a preference, I'll get back to you when I'm done with the visuals (most likely tonight UK time).
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Ok ill byte. Choose a chat program and PM me the details.
OK, PM me if you have a preference, I'll get back to you when I'm done with the visuals (most likely tonight UK time).
OK IRC, quakenet ill be on channel #883829334. If anyone else wants to join im sure you wouldnt have a problem with that.
Ill be waiting.
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ffs give the man a chance, he has done all that he can do at the minute, the group buy was to see if this was genuine or not, so let him do his job and when finished we will all be able to see if its genuine.
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hmm true but I don't see the point in the group buy for anyone wishing to purchase one this year. If the last date is August 3rd, then there will be no confirmation of whether it is legit and it will be a gamble like before. I do however appreciate his offer for the following year as we will hopefully be in a better position. Any chance of getting the contacts on here? Whilst I understand this is a favour for you, there is serious demand here and a lot of money to be made. I accept that too many will raise red flags but on an individual basis, I am sure compromises can be reached. Especially for those of us who want modified transcripts rather than new identities.
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I gave him many chances but he doesnt answer questions that dont suit him.
Also going through the threat again from the beginning he has gone and edited his posts one month later so that they all line up with what he is say.
Thats really honest :o
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Also why choose a date ... what possible difference does a date make either than us not be able to confirm his legibility.
He could have said I will do another 10 degrees, 20 degrees, 50 degrees and thats it.
So it would be safer for him to do 200 degrees till August 3rd .. than to do 20 more degrees over 2 -3 months???
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I gave him many chances but he doesnt answer questions that dont suit him.
Also going through the threat again from the beginning he has gone and edited his posts one month later so that they all line up with what he is say.
Thats really honest :o
yeah, i understand where your coming from and i am looking to buy on as well, but i want to make sure this is 100% before i buy as i dont want scammed, but give him a chance and lets all see what happens and how this develops, we should know very soon wither this is legit or a scam
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He says he got hundreds of emails asking for a degree. And that in the last month alone he has done more degrees than ever before.
Where the fuck are these 100 (at least 100) selfish fucks that got a degree from Oscar this last month.
Why the fuck arent they here to tell me to shut the fuck up ?
If I got a legit degree for £250 or even £750, in 0 time, then I would be here 24/7 telling everyone that says a bad word about Oscar to fuck off.
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He says he got hundreds of emails asking for a degree. And that in the last month alone he has done more degrees than ever before.
Where the fuck are these 100 (at least 100) selfish fucks that got a degree from Oscar this last month.
Why the fuck arent they here to tell me to shut the fuck up ?
If I got a legit degree for £250 or even £750, in 0 time, then I would be here 24/7 telling everyone that says a bad word about Oscar to fuck off.
I'll honestly answer this. Assuming everything works out I'd assume most individuals dont want to broadcast that they did this so they dont draw attention to the method (In order to not compromise what we paid for. To be honest after thinking it over I dont want to post a review myself but I will since I promised earlier in the thread.). In addition, and I say this using myself as an example, people who post here get flamed to hell unless they are recognized in the community.
With that being said i will have indisputable confirmation in the next 1-3 days and I will followup in the thread once this has occurred. To clarify i believe I"may" see confirmation prior to tyler. If this is the case I will share this information with him and/or caparino. Once I have confirmation I will come back to this thread and if it worked say a simple "yes it worked" along with which recognized member I forwarded my indisputable confirmation to. Beyond that I wont be going into any details at all. I will not discuss what exactly the indisputable evidence is but once I have it I will share it with one of the two people I mentioned. I'm going to be asking them in PM not to divulge what I share with them, only to comment on the legititmacy. Based on what I'm going to offer I'm confident they will be fine with this as they will not argue what I'll be giving them is legitimate (Assuming I do receive the confirmation that is).
Anywho Il post back in a few days. Wish me luck that we made the right decision :). In the mean time I've PMed caparino what I'm willing to provide and i'm going to ask that if he agrees that he post back here saying so and if he thinks the indisputable proof will be in fact indisptable. Which it will be (once again assuming I receive it.)
Blueclove
We are on an anonymous forum on anonymous network.
Other than if you actually got a degree under BlueClove I dont see how it would compromise you degree or identity.
Having said that you yourself said that you still have no proof that it is legit.
Also your word means fuck all, my word means fuck all but if there were 50 of us saying he is legit then it would hold some weight.
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Are you saying to have proof this is legit or that you expect to get proof in a couple of days ?
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Are you saying to have proof this is legit or that you expect to get proof in a couple of days ?
Steelseth I'm PMing you what im offering Caparino. If you share on the forums what i'm offering however I will revoke my offer.
OK I wont share if you dont want to.
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Funny thing marxist registered on the 19th of July and on the 24th of July he already had the degree in his hands.
But any legit member has to wait 14 days to get theirs.
These things are funny that way.
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I'm just going to throw this out there with no disrespect to anyone: everyone chill the fuck out. No one knows whether or not this is legitimate. That's the point. It's a risk. Life is full of them. If you don't have the money, don't gamble. For my part, I'm gambling. So far Oz has been timely in response, professional and most important to me : CONSISTENT in his story. He doesn't change stories, prices, details - so if this is some sort of scam, which I honestly don't believe it is, it is pretty fucking elegant scam that isn't even getting that much money if you think about it.
I'm going to wait and see and update information as I get it, I hope others decide to do the same. I am newer to the list, so I will have a considerable amount of time before I have legit info one way or the other.
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so only time will tell
This, so please everyone who's questioning it just stfu and let the shit take its course.
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Here is something to think about.
His contacts are in the US and China.
The can provide degrees from any major UK university.
There is NO hacking going on.
He sends out screenshot of a database table as confirmation with your name on it. (Again no hacking involved).
So unless his contact is Rasputin, Nostradamus grandson or descended from Pythia someone please explain to me how this is done.
Last post here, shutting up now have fun.
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Here is something to think about.
His contacts are in the US and China.
The can provide degrees from any major UK university.
There is NO hacking going on.
He sends out screenshot of a database table as confirmation with your name on it. (Again no hacking involved).
So unless his contact is Rasputin, Nostradamus grandson or descended from Pythia someone please explain to me how this is done.
Last post here, shutting up now have fun.
sounds like someone has a doctorate.
from the school of hard knocks.
fistbump
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Here is something to think about.
His contacts are in the US and China.
The can provide degrees from any major UK university.
There is NO hacking going on.
He sends out screenshot of a database table as confirmation with your name on it. (Again no hacking involved).
So unless his contact is Rasputin, Nostradamus grandson or descended from Pythia someone please explain to me how this is done.
Last post here, shutting up now have fun.
I'm just going to play devils's advocate for a moment.
Assuming this is possible is it reasonable to believe a contact in China could get you into the UK university system? On first glance this seems odd since the UK is a different country. Upon further thought however you have to realize that hong kong used to be a british colony until 1997. Its reasonable to believe thay his UK contact is based out of Hong Kong due to the strong ties between the brits and Hong Kong. Using absolutely no information this is the most logical conclusion I could draw to answer your question. To be honest I think it would be more reasonable to assume that a person out of hong kong would be able to do this then a person out of London. I say this just due to the general level of corruption in that country (yes I knkw HK is different), but theres my take on how this would be possible.
With that being said I would say that we wouldnt want to know more than that, for risk of exposing methods/contacts. Thats my opinion, but I'm sure oscar will decide on his own what level of information he wants to provide. This is of course assuming this is all authentic, we'll know soon enough I suppose.
EDIT: An equally logically conclusion would be that if this were a scam the lack of a contact based in the UK is to ward off those individuals who are highly connected in the UK from being able to say: "Nonsense! If there was someone like this in the UK I would know about it or know them!" You wouldn't see someone in the USA claim this since the USA is much larger geographically and consequently a contact could be located in one of many cities, vs a hypothetically contact based in the UK would only have a handful of locations they could be based out of.
You missed my point completely.
There are two ways this can be done.
1. Someone already has access to the system.
2. Someone broke into the system.
In the case of number 1 it could be a secretary working at the graduate office of College A.
It would be reasonable to assume that this person would have physical access to the University framework.
It would also be reasonable to assume that they would be a UK residence thus eliminating the possibility of them being situated in China or HK.
Even if we assume that it is possible for a UK University employee to be located somewhere in China, it would be a logical fallacy to extrapolate that assumption to apply to all UK Universities.
Also in this case Oscar wouldn’t be offering screenshots of the SQL database, he would have been offering screenshots of whatever software the university was using to manage their student records.
In the case of number 2, someone that doesn’t have access to the system would employ means to gain privileges in said system. This could be done remotely if security measures allowed it.
But to gain unauthorized access to a computer system is the definition of hacking, which Oscar himself has denied.
I see no 3rd option.
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I was applying Ockham's razor but yes if we assume his contacts in China have 300+ contacts in UK then it could be explained.
Ofcourse this does not explain why he is sending SQL database screenshots as proof. This would suggest the system was somehow hacked.
If his contacts were College employees then he should be sending screenshots of the frontend software used to manage the SQL database.
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Also one could claim that all UK universities being part of UCAS one would simply have to compromise the UCAS database to have access to all universities and thus only needing one contact.
That would be false because UCAS is simply an admissions service and thus has no data and is responsible for no record keeping in regards to graduate records.
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I was applying Ockham's razor but yes if we assume his contacts in China have 300+ contacts in UK then it could be explained.
Ofcourse this does not explain why he is sending SQL database screenshots as proof. This would suggest the system was somehow hacked.
If his contacts were College employees then he should be sending screenshots of the frontend software used to manage the SQL database.
Dude, no offense intended, but what are you trying to do? If you don't want it, don't pay. I'm not sure who you're trying to convince. Some of us are willing to take the chance, for better or worse. Those who have decided, I don't think you're dissuading anyone and those who said they may aren't going to make up their minds until the early purchasers validate one side or the other. Those who said they're not interested, I'm positive there's other things to do then to keep repeating a lack of interest over and over again.
Either way, this constant venting isn't doing either side any good in this thread as far as I can tell.
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awaiting anxiously
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I was applying Ockham's razor but yes if we assume his contacts in China have 300+ contacts in UK then it could be explained.
Ofcourse this does not explain why he is sending SQL database screenshots as proof. This would suggest the system was somehow hacked.
If his contacts were College employees then he should be sending screenshots of the frontend software used to manage the SQL database.
Dude, no offense intended, but what are you trying to do? If you don't want it, don't pay. I'm not sure who you're trying to convince. Some of us are willing to take the chance, for better or worse. Those who have decided, I don't think you're dissuading anyone and those who said they may aren't going to make up their minds until the early purchasers validate one side or the other. Those who said they're not interested, I'm positive there's other things to do then to keep repeating a lack of interest over and over again.
Either way, this constant venting isn't doing either side any good in this thread as far as I can tell.
I dont understand why it bothers you so much that I am discussing with another member the possible outcomes of this venture.
Neither of us said he is 100% sure of our position. If you feel this conversation is of no interest to you then simply ignore us and go about your business.
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I was applying Ockham's razor but yes if we assume his contacts in China have 300+ contacts in UK then it could be explained.
Ofcourse this does not explain why he is sending SQL database screenshots as proof. This would suggest the system was somehow hacked.
If his contacts were College employees then he should be sending screenshots of the frontend software used to manage the SQL database.
Dude, no offense intended, but what are you trying to do? If you don't want it, don't pay. I'm not sure who you're trying to convince. Some of us are willing to take the chance, for better or worse. Those who have decided, I don't think you're dissuading anyone and those who said they may aren't going to make up their minds until the early purchasers validate one side or the other. Those who said they're not interested, I'm positive there's other things to do then to keep repeating a lack of interest over and over again.
Either way, this constant venting isn't doing either side any good in this thread as far as I can tell.
I dont understand why it bothers you so much that I am discussing with another member the possible outcomes of this venture.
Neither of us said he is 100% sure of our position. If you feel this conversation is of no interest to you then simply ignore us and go about your business.
I'm asking what you hope to accomplish by constantly bumping this thread with the same message over and over again? not sure how else I can phrase it so that you can understand - we get it. You don't want in on it. Great. Anything else? No? Thanks for sharing your opinion but if you don't mind, how about you let people who actually are involved and invested in this bump this thread with relevant information?
Thanks.
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I was applying Ockham's razor but yes if we assume his contacts in China have 300+ contacts in UK then it could be explained.
Ofcourse this does not explain why he is sending SQL database screenshots as proof. This would suggest the system was somehow hacked.
If his contacts were College employees then he should be sending screenshots of the frontend software used to manage the SQL database.
Dude, no offense intended, but what are you trying to do? If you don't want it, don't pay. I'm not sure who you're trying to convince. Some of us are willing to take the chance, for better or worse. Those who have decided, I don't think you're dissuading anyone and those who said they may aren't going to make up their minds until the early purchasers validate one side or the other. Those who said they're not interested, I'm positive there's other things to do then to keep repeating a lack of interest over and over again.
Either way, this constant venting isn't doing either side any good in this thread as far as I can tell.
I dont understand why it bothers you so much that I am discussing with another member the possible outcomes of this venture.
Neither of us said he is 100% sure of our position. If you feel this conversation is of no interest to you then simply ignore us and go about your business.
I'm asking what you hope to accomplish by constantly bumping this thread with the same message over and over again? not sure how else I can phrase it so that you can understand - we get it. You don't want in on it. Great. Anything else? No? Thanks for sharing your opinion but if you don't mind, how about you let people who actually are involved and invested in this bump this thread with relevant information?
Thanks.
Im I upsetting you mate ? Is what Im doing bad for business ?
Again noone is forcing you to be here. If you have anything positive to contribute to either side then do so. If not fuck off.
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I was applying Ockham's razor but yes if we assume his contacts in China have 300+ contacts in UK then it could be explained.
Ofcourse this does not explain why he is sending SQL database screenshots as proof. This would suggest the system was somehow hacked.
If his contacts were College employees then he should be sending screenshots of the frontend software used to manage the SQL database.
Dude, no offense intended, but what are you trying to do? If you don't want it, don't pay. I'm not sure who you're trying to convince. Some of us are willing to take the chance, for better or worse. Those who have decided, I don't think you're dissuading anyone and those who said they may aren't going to make up their minds until the early purchasers validate one side or the other. Those who said they're not interested, I'm positive there's other things to do then to keep repeating a lack of interest over and over again.
Either way, this constant venting isn't doing either side any good in this thread as far as I can tell.
I dont understand why it bothers you so much that I am discussing with another member the possible outcomes of this venture.
Neither of us said he is 100% sure of our position. If you feel this conversation is of no interest to you then simply ignore us and go about your business.
I'm asking what you hope to accomplish by constantly bumping this thread with the same message over and over again? not sure how else I can phrase it so that you can understand - we get it. You don't want in on it. Great. Anything else? No? Thanks for sharing your opinion but if you don't mind, how about you let people who actually are involved and invested in this bump this thread with relevant information?
Thanks.
Im I upsetting you mate ? Is what Im doing bad for business ?
Again noone is forcing you to be here. If you have anything positive to contribute to either side then do so. If not fuck off.
It's really starting to look like you're intentionally trying to offset this. Do you run some rival shop? Just curious why you continue dodging the question of what you are gaining from constantly bumping this thread with the same message, but your last response got my "Y-U-Mad-Ometer" flashing all sorts of colors.
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I was applying Ockham's razor but yes if we assume his contacts in China have 300+ contacts in UK then it could be explained.
Ofcourse this does not explain why he is sending SQL database screenshots as proof. This would suggest the system was somehow hacked.
If his contacts were College employees then he should be sending screenshots of the frontend software used to manage the SQL database.
Dude, no offense intended, but what are you trying to do? If you don't want it, don't pay. I'm not sure who you're trying to convince. Some of us are willing to take the chance, for better or worse. Those who have decided, I don't think you're dissuading anyone and those who said they may aren't going to make up their minds until the early purchasers validate one side or the other. Those who said they're not interested, I'm positive there's other things to do then to keep repeating a lack of interest over and over again.
Either way, this constant venting isn't doing either side any good in this thread as far as I can tell.
I dont understand why it bothers you so much that I am discussing with another member the possible outcomes of this venture.
Neither of us said he is 100% sure of our position. If you feel this conversation is of no interest to you then simply ignore us and go about your business.
I'm asking what you hope to accomplish by constantly bumping this thread with the same message over and over again? not sure how else I can phrase it so that you can understand - we get it. You don't want in on it. Great. Anything else? No? Thanks for sharing your opinion but if you don't mind, how about you let people who actually are involved and invested in this bump this thread with relevant information?
Thanks.
Im I upsetting you mate ? Is what Im doing bad for business ?
Again noone is forcing you to be here. If you have anything positive to contribute to either side then do so. If not fuck off.
It's really starting to look like you're intentionally trying to offset this. Do you run some rival shop? Just curious why you continue dodging the question of what you are gaining from constantly bumping this thread with the same message, but your last response got my "Y-U-Mad-Ometer" flashing all sorts of colors.
Are you braindead ?I was never talking to you. Never wanted your reply. Never repeated myself. Dont give a shit about what you say or do.
If you want to play serif you picked the wrong place, go find a little bitch and discipline her ass all you want.
NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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OK all, ignoring the above troll, to anyone else that is considering doing this: don't do it if you have any doubt. I'm not guaranteeing anything as I have received nothing yet, but I can definitely say that if Oz is scamming me, he did more work than any scammer I've ever heard of in my life. I took the gamble and I'll update the thread when I get some relevant info to share. Seems there's more than enough of us in the thread now to validate whether or not he delivers. For my part, I'm rolling the dice and holding my breath but to reiterate, he has been incredibly patient and professional with me. Doesn't say a damn thing about his legitimacy, but it helped me make my decision.
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OK all, ignoring the above troll, to anyone else that is considering doing this: don't do it if you have any doubt. I'm not guaranteeing anything as I have received nothing yet, but I can definitely say that if Oz is scamming me, he did more work than any scammer I've ever heard of in my life. I took the gamble and I'll update the thread when I get some relevant info to share. Seems there's more than enough of us in the thread now to validate whether or not he delivers. For my part, I'm rolling the dice and holding my breath but to reiterate, he has been incredibly patient and professional with me. Doesn't say a damn thing about his legitimacy, but it helped me make my decision.
I am sure that to you Oscar, it would be alot of work installing a SQL database and management software, then taking a screenshot. To anyone else not so much work.
So Oscar STOP ADVERTISING YOURSELF NO ONE IS BUYING IT.
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More work than any scammer. WOWWWWW
Ever heart of Frank Abagnale ? Look it up.
MORON
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It's perfectly obvious that none of the people defending Oscar in this thread has ever worked within a figurative mile of the British university system.
I'm afraid Oscar is simply taking advantage of the fact that people who don't have degrees and who feel that this is somehow disadvantaging them in life, by definition have a rather vague and ignorant idea about how universities and the awarding of degrees actually works.
I can tell you right now that
a) I have worked in British universities for many years
b) there is no way that what is being offered here could be possible without either world-class hacking (which would cost you a lot more than 700 bucks) or a network consisting of internal operatives at every single university at which degrees are being offered, being paid bribes which would bring the cost of the product offered here to tens of thousands.
How else the fuck do you gullible morons actually imagine this is going to be done? The magical degree fairy? Sneaking into the office s of some kind of central degree-awarding body?
Well in case you're imagining that it's the second - guess what? There is no such thing. Every UK university is, BY DEFINITION, it's own, autonomous, degree-awarding institution. There used to be a class of institutions (polytechnics) that could only award degrees that were monitored and approved by a central agency, but this situation was changed 20 years ago. There SIMPLY IS NO SUCH PLACE as some office where you could sit there in front of a screen and magically award someone a degree at the institution of your choosing. You could have to have direct access to the computer records of every single university in the country to do this.
Oscar claims that he can sort you out with 'A' levels etc. To do this, he would have to have access to a completely different set of institutional records which are not linked IN ANY WAY to those of universities.
I don't know whether Oscar himself believes that this bullshit is actually true - for all I know, he's being scammed himself. But I can tell you that what is being described here is nothing short of a fairly tale, designed to lure in desperate or lazy losers.
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OK, now you're degenerating into the point of incoherent raging. I'm not Oz. anyone that saw my post of what I am offering (and if you took a second to skim those whopping 18 posts in my history) could probably tell I'm not Oz in relatively short time. I'm not responding to you til you go have a cigarette, a hit or whatever it is that brings you up to at least an 8th grade conversation level. Don't have it in me for the Internet Tough Guy today, all apologies but I honestly feel you're either jealous or you have a rival set-up. Either way, let the feels fly and once they are free, come back chilled out. Or pointlessly rage all night, I honestly care zero either way.
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OK, now you're degenerating into the point of incoherent raging. I'm not Oz. anyone that saw my post of what I am offering (and if you took a second to skim those whopping 18 posts in my history) could probably tell I'm not Oz in relatively short time. I'm not responding to you til you go have a cigarette, a hit or whatever it is that brings you up to at least an 8th grade conversation level. Don't have it in me for the Internet Tough Guy today, all apologies but I honestly feel you're either jealous or you have a rival set-up. Either way, let the feels fly and once they are free, come back chilled out. Or pointlessly rage all night, I honestly care zero either way.
Look up someone else agrees with me. Go troll on them and leave me alone.
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It's perfectly obvious that none of the people defending Oscar in this thread has ever worked within a figurative mile of the British university system.
I'm afraid Oscar is simply taking advantage of the fact that people who don't have degrees and who feel that this is somehow disadvantaging them in life, by definition have a rather vague and ignorant idea about how universities and the awarding of degrees actually works.
I can tell you right now that
a) I have worked in British universities for many years
b) there is no way that what is being offered here could be possible without either world-class hacking (which would cost you a lot more than 700 bucks) or a network consisting of internal operatives at every single university at which degrees are being offered, being paid bribes which would bring the cost of the product offered here to tens of thousands.
How else the fuck do you gullible morons actually imagine this is going to be done? The magical degree fairy? Sneaking into the office s of some kind of central degree-awarding body?
Well in case you're imagining that it's the second - guess what? There is no such thing. Every UK university is, BY DEFINITION, it's own, autonomous, degree-awarding institution. There used to be a class of institutions (polytechnics) that could only award degrees that were monitored and approved by a central agency, but this situation was changed 20 years ago. There SIMPLY IS NO SUCH PLACE as some office where you could sit there in front of a screen and magically award someone a degree at the institution of your choosing. You could have to have direct access to the computer records of every single university in the country to do this.
Oscar claims that he can sort you out with 'A' levels etc. To do this, he would have to have access to a completely different set of institutional records which are not linked IN ANY WAY to those of universities.
I don't know whether Oscar himself believes that this bullshit is actually true - for all I know, he's being scammed himself. But I can tell you that what is being described here is nothing short of a fairly tale, designed to lure in desperate or lazy losers.
And you could absolutely be 100 percent correct. Then again, if you truly had that that university experience, I personally feel you would agree the money is trivial. So why not? What do I have to lose? A night at a somewhat decent club? I think I can live with that risk. I had stated before, if you can't afford the gamble or you doubt it, don't do it.
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"money is trivia" Ahhh I get you know. Rich mummas boy has all the money in the world but too fucking stupid to get a degree even with all that money.
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"money is trivia" Ahhh I get you know. Rich mummas boy has all the money in the world but too fucking stupid to get a degree even with all that money.
Money is trivia. Exactly. I can tell you're a smart one, aren't you? lol
let the butthurt flow.jpg
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"money is trivia" Ahhh I get you know. Rich mummas boy has all the money in the world but too fucking stupid to get a degree even with all that money.
Money is trivia. Exactly. I can tell you're a smart one, aren't you? lol
let the butthurt flow.jpg
If money is trivial to you, you little bitch why dont you tell your sugar daddy to pay for the degrees of all the people Oscar has Scammed ?
MORON.
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I am not going to respond to you any more I can feel my brain getting smaller just by talking to you.
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"money is trivia" Ahhh I get you know. Rich mummas boy has all the money in the world but too fucking stupid to get a degree even with all that money.
Money is trivia. Exactly. I can tell you're a smart one, aren't you? lol
let the butthurt flow.jpg
If money is trivial to you, you little bitch why dont you tell your sugar daddy to pay for the degrees of all the people Oscar has Scammed ?
MORON.
Dude, you're raging. I'm again asking you to chill out. You are just throwing random things out and blindly warblgarbling on an anonymous forum. I don't wish you ill, just think you need to relax and take a breath. Go outside. Find God. Eat some acid. Combine all of the above but let whatever negativity you're holding go before posting to me again if you expect a response. I made my bet and now I wait. I don't care if that, for reasons I'll obviously never have explained to me, outrages you so much. I have enough to deal with in the real world than to argue on the innerwebs.
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For all those that dont want to read 3 pages back.
pulpfiction == oscarzululondon
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And now thanks to his trolling all the arguments to why this is a scum are buried under 3 pages of bullshit.
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Hey oscar i would like a degree. In the states.. Whats the tag on one?
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i need a forged black belt probably nine or tenth dan
undere $100000 BTC please
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Oscar you stood me up, thats not polite.
Anyways any thoughts, comments, emotions on this ?
It's perfectly obvious that none of the people defending Oscar in this thread has ever worked within a figurative mile of the British university system.
I'm afraid Oscar is simply taking advantage of the fact that people who don't have degrees and who feel that this is somehow disadvantaging them in life, by definition have a rather vague and ignorant idea about how universities and the awarding of degrees actually works.
I can tell you right now that
a) I have worked in British universities for many years
b) there is no way that what is being offered here could be possible without either world-class hacking (which would cost you a lot more than 700 bucks) or a network consisting of internal operatives at every single university at which degrees are being offered, being paid bribes which would bring the cost of the product offered here to tens of thousands.
How else the fuck do you gullible morons actually imagine this is going to be done? The magical degree fairy? Sneaking into the office s of some kind of central degree-awarding body?
Well in case you're imagining that it's the second - guess what? There is no such thing. Every UK university is, BY DEFINITION, it's own, autonomous, degree-awarding institution. There used to be a class of institutions (polytechnics) that could only award degrees that were monitored and approved by a central agency, but this situation was changed 20 years ago. There SIMPLY IS NO SUCH PLACE as some office where you could sit there in front of a screen and magically award someone a degree at the institution of your choosing. You could have to have direct access to the computer records of every single university in the country to do this.
Oscar claims that he can sort you out with 'A' levels etc. To do this, he would have to have access to a completely different set of institutional records which are not linked IN ANY WAY to those of universities.
I don't know whether Oscar himself believes that this bullshit is actually true - for all I know, he's being scammed himself. But I can tell you that what is being described here is nothing short of a fairly tale, designed to lure in desperate or lazy losers.
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These thoughts are what everyone is thinking. When I heard hacking wasn't involved, nearly every university was being offered, a changing time constraint and number of degrees being offered, I thought a system of coinsurance would be the best bet. I actually suggested a group buy first but didn't feel comfortable paying any money as I myself couldn't comprehend how it was possible. I don't think anyone can to be honest, but if people are willing to pay (which to me is a lot of money) to find out, then I commend their bravery. Pioneers in the Silk Road scambusters.
The ONLY proof that would be acceptable is when Cap tells us he called up X uni and they told him his degree cert. Anything else is merely a prelude to the final crescendo. This is an auditable degree, not a screenshot of a piece of paper. Anything else is merely a prelude to the final crescendo. It is a shame that no one will be able to buy a degree with proof this time round as the deadline is tomorrow. I'm glad he will be back next year though.
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Can you all please stop bumping this thread with stupidity, you're hurting my brain.
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Oscar you stood me up, thats not polite.
Anyways any thoughts, comments, emotions on this ?
It's perfectly obvious that none of the people defending Oscar in this thread has ever worked within a figurative mile of the British university system.
I'm afraid Oscar is simply taking advantage of the fact that people who don't have degrees and who feel that this is somehow disadvantaging them in life, by definition have a rather vague and ignorant idea about how universities and the awarding of degrees actually works.
I can tell you right now that
a) I have worked in British universities for many years
b) there is no way that what is being offered here could be possible without either world-class hacking (which would cost you a lot more than 700 bucks) or a network consisting of internal operatives at every single university at which degrees are being offered, being paid bribes which would bring the cost of the product offered here to tens of thousands.
How else the fuck do you gullible morons actually imagine this is going to be done? The magical degree fairy? Sneaking into the office s of some kind of central degree-awarding body?
Well in case you're imagining that it's the second - guess what? There is no such thing. Every UK university is, BY DEFINITION, it's own, autonomous, degree-awarding institution. There used to be a class of institutions (polytechnics) that could only award degrees that were monitored and approved by a central agency, but this situation was changed 20 years ago. There SIMPLY IS NO SUCH PLACE as some office where you could sit there in front of a screen and magically award someone a degree at the institution of your choosing. You could have to have direct access to the computer records of every single university in the country to do this.
Oscar claims that he can sort you out with 'A' levels etc. To do this, he would have to have access to a completely different set of institutional records which are not linked IN ANY WAY to those of universities.
I don't know whether Oscar himself believes that this bullshit is actually true - for all I know, he's being scammed himself. But I can tell you that what is being described here is nothing short of a fairly tale, designed to lure in desperate or lazy losers.
Steelseth correct me if I'm wrong but is there really anything oscar could say that would convince you this isnt fake? I have a suspicion that short of seeing completed degrees you will remain skeptical. As a result asking oscar for more info doesnt really surve a productive purpose since anythng short of seeing finished degrees is going to result in more questions and accusations. Unless you legitimately believe that oscar will be able to come up with an answer that satisfies you maybe its best if we wait and see if oscar delivers.
At this point its a waste of time for him to argue since no matter what he says only the delivered product (or undelivered) will answer your question sufficiently. To be clear theres nothing wrong with remaining skeptical until someome can prove otherwise. But its a waste of your time and his time to pretend that anything he says is going to satisfy you short of seeing a finished degree. More importantly you both probably know this already so theres little point in continuuing the discussion so we might as well sit it out and prepare to wait.
We are not being honest here are we ? I said I would stop commenting but you had to play the devil's advocate as you put it.
The really funny shit is that you are all paranoid about your ID and you have a stupid fuck circulating your names and addresses around the forum as "sample visuals".
I can say with 100% certainty that I know Cap's name and address and depending on who send me what I can piece together who is who.
And to think that i have yet to receive a screenshot from Oscar himself because for some reason he doesnt like me.
Unless anyone else wants to play the devils advocate this will be my final post here.
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Good thing i went to class 2day.. lol..
this is even worse than that vendor : KAT.. and the 2 sisters incident.. hahaha
and more money on the line.. and several people pitched in to see if its what it is...
8) Hasta La VISTA baybehhh
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Yes I am someone using a throwaway account - I'm not about to compromise my identity by using my usual nym and also revealing something about my job.
No, I am not a pseudonym for any of the other participants in this thread - this is genuinely only my second post on this topic.
In answer to the question above, if you actually read what I wrote in my first post, the question is already answered.
There are only two ways this could be done.
1) Hacking. But not just ordinary hacking. Hacking to a skill level which would ensure that you could fully bypass the security systems of hundreds of separate institutions, none of which use identical security systems. You would need a hacker with the kind of skill-level that would enable them to be able to promise you that they could, say, get you a job at Morgan Stanley, write off your mortgage, and write-in your name to the lead story on tomorrow's New York Times....so why would they be selling degrees for a few hundred dollars?
2) Co-operative insiders at universities AND at the separate institutions responsible for awarding pre-university qualification. You would need at least two of these per institution (i.e FOR EACH AND EVERY UNIVERSITY PLUS FOR EVERY INSTITUTION AWARDING PRE-UNIVERSITY QUALIFICATIONS), on average, and they would have to be placed in positions of authority which would have them earning salaries in at least the $60k+ range (I'm using dollar amounts here because I think most people reading will be American). At my university, making the changes required to university records would require a very high level of systems security access (for example, ordinary professors, even ones who are global superstars in their field, would no-way have this kind of systems access) and could never be made by just one person. At some unis it may be the case that relatively low-ranking admin staff in IT and back-offices would have the necessary access, but these individuals would still be earning at least 40+k. Any individual who got caught tampering with records would be fired immediately, prosecuted, and effectively rendered unemployable in any IT, administrative or secretarial capacity. Do you think the sums being discussed would actually be enough to pay someone to take that risk? And do you really think Oscar has access to a network of such individuals at every university in the English-speaking world?
There is no other way that this could be done. If someone else thinks there is such a way then please tell us.
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Oh and by the way - all you people who think that it is ethically just fine to fake a degree, or that you won't get found out for the lazy, self-deluding little fucks that you are if you do succeed in doing that, are just kidding yourselves. Even if you study a subject whose content has nothing to do with your job, the skills of disciplined study, extensive writing, and logical argument that you develop over the 3+ years of studying for a degree in ANY subject cannot be faked. Of course, the people who do not have those skills can easily con themselves into believing that they have them or that they are unimportant, but that doesn't make it true.
Most of the justifications I've seen in this thread amount to people saying 'Well, like, uh, I could totally have got a degree if I wanted, but had better shit to do maaaaan.' This is basically like saying 'I could most definitely have won 20 Olympic medals just like Michael Phelps, but I was just, you know, to cool for the pool...so you should totally give me a gold medal anyway.' It's a level of logic and maturity slightly below that of Bart Simpson, and proof in itself that a lot of you would seriously benefit from a university education if you had the fucking balls, humility and capacity for work just to go and get one.
And I'm not saying that getting a degree makes you a better human being or a more skilled one in all kinds of ways. Obviously it doesn't. Of course many of the best, most talented individuals live successful lives and prove themselves time and again without needing degrees. But those people don't skulk around trying to pretend they did something they didn't. If you can't be bothered to get a degree, or you really haven't been able to for reasons beyond your control, then be a grown-up and go find some way to PROVE your skills and capacities to potential employers. Using fake qualifications is just pathetic.
Silk Road is supposed to be about the honest trading of commodities whose prohibition is itself ethically unjustifiable. It's not supposed to be about facilitating fraud, as I understand it, except to the extent that this is necessary to evade immediate prosecution by those engaged in trading otherwise harmless goods. This isn't a carding site and we don't sell keys to people's houses on here. Even if Oscar was telling the truth, what he's offering here is something which is not ethically justified, but a means by which to defraud honest employers and colleagues, effectively stealing from competitors in the labour market who have honestly taken the time and trouble to get themselves degrees, as well as a means of deluding yourself catastrophically. Frankly, I don't think this thread should ever have been allowed my mods in the first place.
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Devil's advocate? Yes. Force you to reply? Absolutely not, you do this on your own volition. As I stated previously, while I don't necessarily agree with your rather aggressive posting style you have brought up some valid points worth discussing. And while I think there may is value in constructive dialogue between you and other posters on HOW Oscar might possibly hope to achieve such a feat, I think it's a waste of time for you to pretend that anything he can say will satisfy you. If however there is in fact something Oscar can do, short of delivering what he is promising, that will end your concerns then state it and maybe Oscar will be happy to oblige. But until that time comes the only real option you have is to wait like everyone else.
I am numbering this to make it easier for you all to comprehend because I just realized that most probably most of you are stoned.
1. You are a douche, because only a douche would initiate a discussion then complain when someone responds or when said douche doesn't like the comments.
2. Essentially what you did is payed a guy to advertise your personal information on the forum.
3. You now have someone with experience on the subject telling you the exact fucking same think I was telling you.
Dont you have a brain that works ? Do you need someone to tell you the magical degree fairy doesnt exist ? On an anonymous forum if I told you I have 15 years experience in telecommunications and network security, would that make any difference?
4. No hacking all 300 UK universities is not possible. Hacking 1 or 2 might be possible but you need some crazy planning, crazy resources and some crazy social engineering skills.
5. I could sit here and write 50 more points but we all know it makes no difference.
Although this seems is directed at BlueClove it is intended to include all the dilutional little boys and girls in this threat. If you feel offended in any way then yes I am talking to you.
@uniguy
Discussing morality here is not appropriate and while not an expert on drugs I would hardly call them harmless goods.
What Oscar is proposing has happened in the past, is happening now and will continue to happen in the future, just not in the form that Oscar is proposing.
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@steelseeth
I don't give a flying fuck what you think is appropriate to discuss. And calling someone a 'douche' hardly amounts to a rational argument of any kind.
Oh look - shock horror! 0 I am about to discuss morality despite the fact that you think it is not 'appropriate' (which is itself, in fact, a moral judgement, in case you hadn't noticed).
Drugs are harmless to the extent that they cannot be easily used to harm others and even if they can be, they rarely are. Harm may ensue, but it ensues to the user who is responsible for their own actions.
Even weapons are potentially 'harmless' to the extent that they can be used merely for sporting or self-defense purposes.
Forged degrees have no purpose other than to defraud others. SR generally does not permit trade in goods which have no purpose other than to defraud others. Which of these statements are you saying is not true? And if they're both true, then how the fuck is that not relevant to this discussion?
Silk Road is not an ethically neutral endeavor. It justifies itself from the very beginning on the idea that it is giving people an opportunity to trade in ways which are legally prohibited but should not be. The key term here is 'SHOULD ' not be. This implies a moral judgement from the very beginning. The constant evolution of systems to prohibit and prevent scamming is predicated from the very beginning on the idea that this is an environment within which honesty, truth-telling and integrity are highly valued. We sell drugs to each other, but we are expected to tell the truth to each other about the drugs we are selling.
My argument is that selling forged degrees is a completely different type of enterprise which contravenes some of the basic ethical principles informing the constitution of SR. If you think this is wrong then explain why. The fact that other people don't take this position, that trade in forged degrees does indeed take place, has no bearing at all on this argument.
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@steelseeth
I don't give a flying fuck what you think is appropriate to discuss. And calling someone a 'douche' hardly amounts to a rational argument of any kind.
Oh look - shock horror! 0 I am about to discuss morality despite the fact that you think it is not 'appropriate' (which is itself, in fact, a moral judgement, in case you hadn't noticed).
Drugs are harmless to the extent that they cannot be easily used to harm others and even if they can be, they rarely are. Harm may ensue, but it ensues to the user who is responsible for their own actions.
Even weapons are potentially 'harmless' to the extent that they can be used merely for sporting or self-defense purposes.
Forged degrees have no purpose other than to defraud others. SR generally does not permit trade in goods which have no purpose other than to defraud others. Which of these statements are you saying is not true? And if they're both true, then how the fuck is that not relevant to this discussion?
Silk Road is not an ethically neutral endeavor. It justifies itself from the very beginning on the idea that it is giving people an opportunity to trade in ways which are legally prohibited but should not be. The key term here is 'SHOULD ' not be. This implies a moral judgement from the very beginning. The constant evolution of systems to prohibit and prevent scamming is predicated from the very beginning on the idea that this is an environment within which honesty, truth-telling and integrity are highly valued. We sell drugs to each other, but we are expected to tell the truth to each other about the drugs we are selling.
My argument is that selling forged degrees is a completely different type of enterprise which contravenes some of the basic ethical principles informing the constitution of SR. If you think this is wrong then explain why. The fact that other people don't take this position, that trade in forged degrees does indeed take place, has no bearing at all on this argument.
Ever heard the words supercilious verbiage?
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@steelseeth
I don't give a flying fuck what you think is appropriate to discuss. And calling someone a 'douche' hardly amounts to a rational argument of any kind.
Oh look - shock horror! 0 I am about to discuss morality despite the fact that you think it is not 'appropriate' (which is itself, in fact, a moral judgement, in case you hadn't noticed).
Drugs are harmless to the extent that they cannot be easily used to harm others and even if they can be, they rarely are. Harm may ensue, but it ensues to the user who is responsible for their own actions.
Even weapons are potentially 'harmless' to the extent that they can be used merely for sporting or self-defense purposes.
Forged degrees have no purpose other than to defraud others. SR generally does not permit trade in goods which have no purpose other than to defraud others. Which of these statements are you saying is not true? And if they're both true, then how the fuck is that not relevant to this discussion?
Silk Road is not an ethically neutral endeavor. It justifies itself from the very beginning on the idea that it is giving people an opportunity to trade in ways which are legally prohibited but should not be. The key term here is 'SHOULD ' not be. This implies a moral judgement from the very beginning. The constant evolution of systems to prohibit and prevent scamming is predicated from the very beginning on the idea that this is an environment within which honesty, truth-telling and integrity are highly valued. We sell drugs to each other, but we are expected to tell the truth to each other about the drugs we are selling.
My argument is that selling forged degrees is a completely different type of enterprise which contravenes some of the basic ethical principles informing the constitution of SR. If you think this is wrong then explain why. The fact that other people don't take this position, that trade in forged degrees does indeed take place, has no bearing at all on this argument.
Ever heard the words supercilious verbiage?
Only from self-serving little cunts who don't have an argument to defend their position.
Seriously - is this how you're going to respond to people whose opinions you don't like once you get your graduate-level job with your fake degree? Because if it is, then you're quickly going to find out that the real graduates did indeed acquire some skills that you didn't, and it isn't going to end well for you...
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@steelseeth
I don't give a flying fuck what you think is appropriate to discuss. And calling someone a 'douche' hardly amounts to a rational argument of any kind.
Oh look - shock horror! 0 I am about to discuss morality despite the fact that you think it is not 'appropriate' (which is itself, in fact, a moral judgement, in case you hadn't noticed).
Drugs are harmless to the extent that they cannot be easily used to harm others and even if they can be, they rarely are. Harm may ensue, but it ensues to the user who is responsible for their own actions.
Even weapons are potentially 'harmless' to the extent that they can be used merely for sporting or self-defense purposes.
Forged degrees have no purpose other than to defraud others. SR generally does not permit trade in goods which have no purpose other than to defraud others. Which of these statements are you saying is not true? And if they're both true, then how the fuck is that not relevant to this discussion?
Silk Road is not an ethically neutral endeavor. It justifies itself from the very beginning on the idea that it is giving people an opportunity to trade in ways which are legally prohibited but should not be. The key term here is 'SHOULD ' not be. This implies a moral judgement from the very beginning. The constant evolution of systems to prohibit and prevent scamming is predicated from the very beginning on the idea that this is an environment within which honesty, truth-telling and integrity are highly valued. We sell drugs to each other, but we are expected to tell the truth to each other about the drugs we are selling.
My argument is that selling forged degrees is a completely different type of enterprise which contravenes some of the basic ethical principles informing the constitution of SR. If you think this is wrong then explain why. The fact that other people don't take this position, that trade in forged degrees does indeed take place, has no bearing at all on this argument.
Calling the douche a douche was a realization based on the douche's actions. The calling itself was not the argument, the actions of said douche were the argument.
If douche was the wrong adjective then substitute what you feel makes sense to you.
I do not wish to silence you, you can even discuss what presents Santa Claus brought you this year for all I care.
My objection to discussing morality was the fact that morality is subjective. An argument that I ofter hear about an absolute morality is "Dont do to others what you dont want done to you".
Of course most Christians would disagree and argue their morality is based on the bible. There is no end to this discussion.
I dont know enough about drugs as to make an argument about the morality of drugs vs the morality of academic fraud but I would assume that depending on ones ethnicity, culture and social background, that someone might find the one to be more acceptable than the other.
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I'm not even bothering to read this mentally unstable tirade but steel seriously, I can't wait for the summer holidays to end and you to go back to school so we can have a sensible thread again...
Steel this is for you:
http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-03-23/1237823956222.jpg
;D
On a more serious note I've got some tracking details for you Ty and Cap which I'll send privately when I get home via PM. Your degree came faster than I expected which was a pleasant surprise Cap.
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@steelseeth
I don't give a flying fuck what you think is appropriate to discuss. And calling someone a 'douche' hardly amounts to a rational argument of any kind.
Oh look - shock horror! 0 I am about to discuss morality despite the fact that you think it is not 'appropriate' (which is itself, in fact, a moral judgement, in case you hadn't noticed).
Drugs are harmless to the extent that they cannot be easily used to harm others and even if they can be, they rarely are. Harm may ensue, but it ensues to the user who is responsible for their own actions.
Even weapons are potentially 'harmless' to the extent that they can be used merely for sporting or self-defense purposes.
Forged degrees have no purpose other than to defraud others. SR generally does not permit trade in goods which have no purpose other than to defraud others. Which of these statements are you saying is not true? And if they're both true, then how the fuck is that not relevant to this discussion?
Silk Road is not an ethically neutral endeavor. It justifies itself from the very beginning on the idea that it is giving people an opportunity to trade in ways which are legally prohibited but should not be. The key term here is 'SHOULD ' not be. This implies a moral judgement from the very beginning. The constant evolution of systems to prohibit and prevent scamming is predicated from the very beginning on the idea that this is an environment within which honesty, truth-telling and integrity are highly valued. We sell drugs to each other, but we are expected to tell the truth to each other about the drugs we are selling.
My argument is that selling forged degrees is a completely different type of enterprise which contravenes some of the basic ethical principles informing the constitution of SR. If you think this is wrong then explain why. The fact that other people don't take this position, that trade in forged degrees does indeed take place, has no bearing at all on this argument.
Ever heard the words supercilious verbiage?
Only from self-serving little cunts who don't have an argument to defend their position.
Seriously - is this how you're going to respond to people whose opinions you don't like once you get your graduate-level job with your fake degree? Because if it is, then you're quickly going to find out that the real graduates did indeed acquire some skills that you didn't, and it isn't going to end well for you...
Wow uniguy, you've emulated a personality of hypocrisy and self-rationalization in face of sound arguments.
1. Everything you say is justified in the most backward explanations and counter-arguments. Fake degrees are fraud? Well if you have the knowledge to back the degree flawlessly, then why is it really fraud. Drugs are illegal, why do you support them? I, in addition to countless people that've contacted me, are proficient enough in computers to gain entry level positions for tech support; the only thing stopping us? Lack of a degree. What could be a gateway out of a low point in someones life and now being argued against by a despicable piece of shit such as yourself who feels entitled to his opinion being the only right one.
"Someone else had their life made easier? FUCK THAT SHIT, I WON'T STAND FOR IT AND AM GONNA QQ ABOUT IT IN AN ONLINE FORUM UNDER A FAKE NAME"
2. Young adults who might've spent the same amount of time gaining knowledge VIA books and online resources to actually teach themselves, instead of cramming material to learn to pass exams, albeit only temporarily, and then forget most of the material later on like most of the people I've encountered.
3. People who have been born into poverty, and are working two jobs to make just enough to support the household... how the fuck do you expect them to pay for college tuition? Oh I'm sorry, were you gonna pay for that? I didn't fucking think so.
The people who paid oscar out of escrow already know the risks of doing so. Please take your negativity out of this thread. Could Oscar turn out to be a scammer? Yes, very possibly so. Will he be proven either scammer or legit until time becomes the penultimate verdict? Nope.
So, please, stop posting in this thread and let it unfold as it inevitably will.
Hey oscar, what's the news on the degree mate?
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Seriously - is this how you're going to respond to people whose opinions you don't like once you get your graduate-level job with your fake degree? Because if it is, then you're quickly going to find out that the real graduates did indeed acquire some skills that you didn't, and it isn't going to end well for you...
You're full of shit dude. Why are you so threatened by all of this? Is it because you just got done going into 200k worth of debt and you just can't stand that you didn't have to pay that much for your shit degree? That's just sour grapes.
Doesn't sound like you've spent much time in the real world else you'd know better than that "real grads acquired skills that you didn't" garbage. Keeping a job in the real world depends solely on how well you do your job and is frequently unrelated to your field of study. Why don't you go cry to someone that gives a shit.
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Cool, oscar's sending around screenshots of "my degree in the database" with my name, address and other details. I just had a member send me a message with a warning and my details that he didn't get from oscar, BUT ANOTHER MEMBER.
Thanks oscar, not only is that high unprofessional of you; now it raises signs that you might possibly be LE. Fucking Awesome, I should just post my SSN number and Will on here too.
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Caparino what are you talking about? I've not sent those screenshots to anyone other than you. Are you sure you didn't accidentally forward a message from me to someone without seeing id added links to screenshots at the bottom?
I'm very careful, only sending people the data that relates to them, I've had requests for your screenshots, including from that idiot steel, which I refused, and I can prove that.
Your degree is a group degree anyway for everyone here and you said you'd used fake details?
Also as above post you'll have post tracking number soon.
Cool, oscar's sending around screenshots of "my degree in the database" with my name, address and other details. I just had a member send me a message with a warning and my details that he didn't get from oscar, BUT ANOTHER MEMBER.
Thanks oscar, not only is that high unprofessional of you; now it raises signs that you might possibly be LE. Fucking Awesome, I should just post my SSN number and Will on here too.
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Caparino what are you talking about? I've not sent those screenshots to anyone other than you. Are you sure you didn't accidentally forward a message from me to someone without seeing id added links to screenshots at the bottom?
I'm very careful, only sending people the data that relates to them, I've had requests for your screenshots, including from that idiot steel, which I refused, and I can prove that.
Your degree is a group degree anyway for everyone here and you said you'd used fake details?
Also as above post you'll have post tracking number soon.
Cool, oscar's sending around screenshots of "my degree in the database" with my name, address and other details. I just had a member send me a message with a warning and my details that he didn't get from oscar, BUT ANOTHER MEMBER.
Thanks oscar, not only is that high unprofessional of you; now it raises signs that you might possibly be LE. Fucking Awesome, I should just post my SSN number and Will on here too.
Fake name, not address my friend. No I haven't done such a thing at all, in fact it's one of the people on this thread that keeps provoking you to prove something so it doesn't seem at all out of the ordinary that he might receive this information indirectly, but it's source would only point back to you
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So according to what you said, I'd be able to verify the degree's validity by contacting the university at this time?
Later this evening yes. Basically I'm out at the moment and the person I live with noted that 2 degree boxes had arrived, since I ordered yours and Ty's first I assume its these two as I ordered these first. I'll check everything over, run to the post office and get them sent. Give you the tracking numbers, confirm you can call the uni and then hopefully everything is fine.
So either or both Ty and you will be confirming later.
OZ
Alright so in a mood of anger and irritability that I have to now meditate after; we'll finally find out if Oscar's legit or not within the day.
Cheers to everyone that participated.
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theres no proof it's you mate , deny everything etc tetc
but you being so upfront about it takes guts to show the rest of the forum a potential alarm bell.
again i am so thank ful for helping the SR community and we will express our gratitude in respect.
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So according to what you said, I'd be able to verify the degree's validity by contacting the university at this time?
Later this evening yes. Basically I'm out at the moment and the person I live with noted that 2 degree boxes had arrived, since I ordered yours and Ty's first I assume its these two as I ordered these first. I'll check everything over, run to the post office and get them sent. Give you the tracking numbers, confirm you can call the uni and then hopefully everything is fine.
So either or both Ty and you will be confirming later.
OZ
Alright so in a mood of anger and irritability that I have to now meditate after; we'll finally find out if Oscar's legit or not within the day.
Cheers to everyone that participated.
Cheers to you. Please don't forget to update! Will be watching out for your post.
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Can't we all put together and donate one to AAkoven? ;D That does mean he will get smarter, right?
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17:00 in the UK. Dont think confirmation will be happening today.
Would not be surprised if douchebag decides to extents to deadline over the weekend and scum a few more people.
Flame on.
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17:00 in the UK. Dont think confirmation will be happening today.
Would not be surprised if douchebag decides to extents to deadline over the weekend and scum a few more people.
Flame on.
Second.
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Ty and Cap can confirm from now. Bit late but I think the Uni is open on a Saturday anyway. Not doing any more degrees. Had enough, and going to relax for a few hours!
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Everything you say is justified in the most backward explanations and counter-arguments. Fake degrees are fraud? Well if you have the knowledge to back the degree flawlessly, then why is it really fraud. Drugs are illegal, why do you support them?
why does the legality of something matter? i'm disappointed to see such a state-centered attitude on sr :(
taking drugs isn't immoral because there is no violence, theft, or fraud committed by doing so, but by flaunting a degree that you didn't earn, you're devaluing legitimate degree-holders' degrees, which is effectively theft from society
Yep, no violence in the drug markets. None whatsoever. ::)
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pulpfiction i've actually said that before http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33585.msg383051#msg383051
i think you also know that were drug prohibition to end, all the violence associated with the trade would end with it, but defrauding society will always be wrong
I respectfully disagree. The degree isn't going to get 17 guys beheaded and left in the Mexican desert. I love drugs, don't get me wrong, but stop the pretending. You're like someone claiming to be vegetarian, bitching me out for my burger while you chomp on chicken nuggets. Stop thinking you're innocent. Hell, stop thinking innocence matters. It's all relative to perspective and my perspective: worry about myself, take care of myself and let "society" handle its own problems.
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but defrauding society will always be wrong
Holy shit well almost every politician / company executive / marketeer is going straight to hell then, I'll just go sit in a corner and study my Bible right now.
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Everything you say is justified in the most backward explanations and counter-arguments. Fake degrees are fraud? Well if you have the knowledge to back the degree flawlessly, then why is it really fraud. Drugs are illegal, why do you support them?
why does the legality of something matter? i'm disappointed to see such a state-centered attitude on sr :(
taking drugs isn't immoral because there is no violence, theft, or fraud committed by doing so, but by flaunting a degree that you didn't earn, you're devaluing legitimate degree-holders' degrees, which is effectively theft from society
Yep, no violence in the drug markets. None whatsoever. ::)
Yep, of course, no theft or fraud either...except a lot of it
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Everything you say is justified in the most backward explanations and counter-arguments. Fake degrees are fraud? Well if you have the knowledge to back the degree flawlessly, then why is it really fraud. Drugs are illegal, why do you support them?
why does the legality of something matter? i'm disappointed to see such a state-centered attitude on sr :(
taking drugs isn't immoral because there is no violence, theft, or fraud committed by doing so, but by flaunting a degree that you didn't earn, you're devaluing legitimate degree-holders' degrees, which is effectively theft from society
Who the hell is flaunting? If anything, I'm keeping it more underwraps than anyone I know. Sorry I don't share in your hobby of ego-stroking
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it was shitty word choice on my part, maybe "utilizing" would have been better
if how well you're hiding something is all you can argue though i think my point's been made
"The things I do are ok, the things everyone else does are not ok" is not exactly a good point. Just my opinion.
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Shannon has summed up the position on the rights and wrongs perfectly.
The people who are trying to argue with them, with their incoherent, immature, self-justifying rants, are only demonstrating how very wrong they are in thinking that there is no difference between them and someone who has actually completed a degree.
What you don't seem to understand is that a degree is not just reading a ton of books. You seem to think that's all it is. So you want to justify using a a fraudulent degree on the basis of that, either because you think that in the job, nobody will care if you've actually read those books OR because you claim you've already read them anyway.
Both of these arguments misunderstand what actually happens when you study for a degree, and what success in a degree actually means. A degree is not just reading a ton of books in a subject. It's learning how to study a field in a disciplined way, to make arguments coherently, on the basis of logic and evidence, to meet deadlines, etc, so that you can demonstrate your knowledge of the field AND your ability to do research and write coherently about it in a way that can be more-or-less objectively measured. This is a set of skills which take several years in a specialized environment to learn.
What I don't quite get is - if you haven't studied at university, then HOW DO YOU KNOW that you don't need to have studied at university to do whatever it is you want to do? You all seem so sure that you don't really need the 3-4 years of study to do whatever it is you think someone will pay you to do. But HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT given that you obviously don't have a clue what goes on on a university program? How do you KNOW that what you would learn at university has to do with the 'real world' given that you obviously have no clue what happens on a university course to begin with?
Anyway none of this was the main reason for me intervening in this thread. My only real reason for doing so was to say this, as I said initially, and which Oscar has COMPLETELY FAILED TO REPLY TO
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THIS IS A SCAM. WHAT OSCAR IS OFFERING IS NOT PHYSICALLY OR TECHNOLOGICALLY POSSIBLE. TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED IN UK UNIVERSITY ADMINISTRATION FOR 20 YEARS.
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You are overgeneralizing, there are thousands of situations where your assumptions would not apply.
Even in the situations you are correct about and there are thousands of those too, why not let people make their own choice and pay the consequences of those choices.
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You are overgeneralizing, there are thousands of situations where your assumptions would not apply.
Name one. A real one - not a hypothetical one based on what you *think* would happen on a university program and what you *think* would happen in some job.
Even in the situations you are correct about and there are thousands of those too, why not let people make their own choice and pay the consequences of those choices.
According to that logic - why not just sit and watch while a kid runs under a bus?
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You are overgeneralizing, there are thousands of situations where your assumptions would not apply.
Name one. A real one - not a hypothetical one based on what you *think* would happen on a university program and what you *think* would happen in some job.
Even in the situations you are correct about and there are thousands of those too, why not let people make their own choice and pay the consequences of those choices.
According to that logic - why not just sit and watch while a kid runs under a bus?
1. Government positions that require college degrees to do menial tasks.
2. I personally know 2 persons that although brilliant, cracked under the pressure and did not finish college.
3. You seem to ignore the fact that there are 2nd grade and 3rd grade colleges that you could still get a degree but not have the experience you are describing.
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I could be wrong on the number but I believe ~10% of Caltech undergrads drop out.
To be even accepted at Caltech one would have to have virtues far greater than the ones you mention for your theoretical college.
EDIT:
Also any moron here that thinks he can fake a degree from Caltech, MIT, Yale, Cambridge deserves what he gets.
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still interested by the way. looking at purpose/need. form followign function and all that jazz.
will be back.
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You are overgeneralizing, there are thousands of situations where your assumptions would not apply.
Name one. A real one - not a hypothetical one based on what you *think* would happen on a university program and what you *think* would happen in some job.
Even in the situations you are correct about and there are thousands of those too, why not let people make their own choice and pay the consequences of those choices.
According to that logic - why not just sit and watch while a kid runs under a bus?
Shut up shannon
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there is no way i'd ever have the patience to type out paragraphs like that uniguy guy
fuck you caparino for trying to cheat your way through life. actually i'm not even mad at you, just disappointed that lazy shits like you who think they're entitled to everything everybody else actually works for share the same planet as the rest of us
Thats a very naive view of life.
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there is no way i'd ever have the patience to type out paragraphs like that uniguy guy
fuck you caparino for trying to cheat your way through life. actually i'm not even mad at you, just disappointed that lazy shits like you who think they're entitled to everything everybody else actually works for share the same planet as the rest of us
Thats a very naive view of life.
Jesus Christ, I actually agree with you. :o
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there is no way i'd ever have the patience to type out paragraphs like that uniguy guy
fuck you caparino for trying to cheat your way through life. actually i'm not even mad at you, just disappointed that lazy shits like you who think they're entitled to everything everybody else actually works for share the same planet as the rest of us
Thats a very naive view of life.
Jesus Christ, I actually agree with you. :o
Shit, quickly smoke another joint.
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Thats a very naive view of life.
it would be naive of me to think of me to think fraud doesn't work (when it obviously does)... but i'm curious, how's it naive to berate people for engaging in fraud?
It's even more naive to misinterpret why you're being "berated".
Anyways to stay on topic, I just beeped them from the mobile and: "Welcome to the University of Reading, the switchboard is operated Monday through Friday, 7:00am to 5:00pm."
So no proof/contact as of yet I'm afraid. If there's any alternative ways I can prove anything oscar, let me know.
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Thats a very naive view of life.
it would be naive of me to think of me to think fraud doesn't work (when it obviously does)... but i'm curious, how's it naive to berate people for engaging in fraud?
Seriously ??? You are on a drug trafficking website and you feel the need to criticize people for committing a victimless crime ?
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Thats a very naive view of life.
it would be naive of me to think of me to think fraud doesn't work (when it obviously does)... but i'm curious, how's it naive to berate people for engaging in fraud?
It's even more naive to misinterpret why you're being "berated".
Anyways to stay on topic, I just beeped them from the mobile and: "Welcome to the University of Reading, the switchboard is operated Monday through Friday, 7:00am to 5:00pm."
So no proof/contact as of yet I'm afraid. If there's any alternative ways I can prove anything oscar, let me know.
I'm still waiting on visual, watching out for your posts. Thanks for the update
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Thats a very naive view of life.
it would be naive of me to think of me to think fraud doesn't work (when it obviously does)... but i'm curious, how's it naive to berate people for engaging in fraud?
It's even more naive to misinterpret why you're being "berated".
Anyways to stay on topic, I just beeped them from the mobile and: "Welcome to the University of Reading, the switchboard is operated Monday through Friday, 7:00am to 5:00pm."
So no proof/contact as of yet I'm afraid. If there's any alternative ways I can prove anything oscar, let me know.
I'm still waiting on visual, watching out for your posts. Thanks for the update
My pleasure mate, I'm as anxious for these results as you are :D
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So Cap did you get the package yet or still waiting? How long from when you got visual did you get a tracking number?
Thanks again
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So Cap did you get the package yet or still waiting? How long from when you got visual did you get a tracking number?
Thanks again
Sendin you a PM mate :)
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Well bitching about it won't do anything, or stop us for that matter. You're welcome to chime in if this thing turns out to be a failure though, which it very well might.
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Seriously ??? You are on a drug trafficking website and you feel the need to criticizepeople for committing a victimless crime ?
i've already explained how i think it's equivalent to theft because it dilutes the value of degree-holders' legitimate degrees by introducing illegitimate additional competition for open job positions
i actually don't give a shit about credentialing of any kind, i'm an autodidact myself (didn't learn shit from my degree :P) but theft, violence, and other non-mutually voluntary behavior is what grinds my gears
Thats just false. Alot of the degree holders have committed academic themselves. In fact if you do a simple search you will find that quite a few head's of state have committed academic fraud.
There are "Colleges" that will grand you a degree simply by attending.
People have been getting degrees from the Soviet Union in History and Philosophy when in fact they were attending propaganda schools.
Additionally if this is a scum which 99.999999999999999998% it is. One could go partying in Bulgaria for 4 years and come back with a degree, it would simply cost them more.
At the end of the day no serious business will hire you just for the degree. If degree holders as so superior then they have nothing to fear.
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autodidact LOL haven't heard that in a while. In fact first time to hear it in an English conversation. Through some more Greek words, come on you can do it, it makes you look smart. LOLlllllllllllll
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autodidact LOL haven't heard that in a while. In fact first time to hear it in an English conversation. Through some more Greek words, come on you can do it, it makes you look smart. LOLlllllllllllll
I was thinking the same thing reading that lol
I still think it's legit, Oz has been great so far. Guess we'll all know soon.
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ah oz the self-admitted former federal agent who was recruited only because he got arrested for drug crimes and has a network of degree forgers working for him
oz, a true international man of mystery
i'm out don't get scammed for too much guys
There is a better chance Shannon is right than Oscar being legit.
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Well Oscar's been on the whole morning it seems, probably closely monitoring this thread and also hasn't replied to the messages I've sent him. No tracking number yet either ???
Thank you SR forum for providing when people are active :)
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Also other people are getting replies for questions they asked him regarding ordering a degree for him but he hasn't replied to my message sent almost 24 hours ago. Oscar, if I were you I'd chime in cause things are definitely looking fishier
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I'm still optimistic, for better or worse. If he was ripping anyone off, he could just disappear altogether. I trust he'll pull through for those that paid. Been burned before, been wrong before, but I'm going to hope for the best and see how it plays out. Guess we'll see soon enough. :-\
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on july 19th 09:57 PM (Thu) marxist is still interested in a college degree.
on july 24th 10:30 PM (Tue) got his degree...
So here's what happened:
After instantly chatting with marxist and going trough the process of detailing all his years/scores/attendances/points, he contacts his always-standby people in China/US...
They do a hell of a job, the univ. rushed delivery to OZL despite the weekend....
According to OZL on the 23rd, he did get "away for a few days to enjoy the sun", but no matter!
OZL promptly forwards it to marxist (who lives in another country), and Tue marxist's mailman dropped the package in his mailbox.
that's what i call customer service...
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Whats you point ? I got promised the same thing.
Yes the Uni of Michigan can be done, Computer Science BSc.
There's also Electrical Engineering if that's of any interest?
Time to arrange would be fairly quick, you'd be able to phone the uni and check things from Monday, and would re sieve the degree Friday next week, assuming you live in the US.
OZ
Yes IT i mean Computer Science. I dont want anything too flashy.
Can you get me a degree from University of Michigan ?
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I also go him to tell me who Tyler is.
Hi,
Sorry I was distracted finishing the last few.
Yes PM him that's fine, I can't of course send you the original with his name etc.
OZ
Also xxxxxx xxxxxxxx xxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx must be Tyler.
Do you mind if I PM him to confirm that it is indeed his and not some random thing you just made up ?
I already know Tyler xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx we go way back.
Here's an example for you. I can't guarantee that if you want to go ahead that I can even do the work any more though. I wasn't joking about the Friday deadline!
http://postimage.org/image/xxxxxxxxxxxx
OZ
Dont want or need to see anybodies info that just wrong and proves nothing.
Why dont you send me a screenshot of the database structure, there is no harm in that and no dick can burn you or anything like that.
Something like this http://imageshack.us/f/314/navicat8yx.jpg/.
Again sorry for being difficult but I have been selling shit on SR for a long time and that makes you paranoid. Im more worried you could be LE than the $400, hell thats just a days work fuck it.
OK, Yes I will.
OZ
Ok, so after Tyler confirms this for me, will you be willing to help with my degree ?
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Of course he already send me the original, to another account 2 days ago.
So if I was LE with tyler having over 300 sales in 2 months, what would I be doing right now ?
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my point is that it's just not possible for mailcompanies to work that fast.
+ester and cap are getting ignored
He's behind his comp. right now, he logged in/out 5 min ago.
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My point is we already knew he was a scammer and infact made the exact same argument as you a few days ago and was flamed to no end by pulpfiction.
if(pulpfiction != oscarzululondon){
pulpfiction = "Biggest retard on the forum";
}
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My point is we already knew he was a scammer and infact made the exact same argument as you a few days ago and was flamed to no end by pulpfiction.
if(pulpfiction != oscarzululondon){
pulpfiction = "Biggest retard on the forum";
}
Not biting, dick.
Still don't think he's a scammer.
I think people are freaking over nothing, but again could be wrong.
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My point is we already knew he was a scammer and infact made the exact same argument as you a few days ago and was flamed to no end by pulpfiction.
if(pulpfiction != oscarzululondon){
pulpfiction = "Biggest retard on the forum";
}
Not biting, dick.
Still don't think he's a scammer.
I think people are freaking over nothing, but again could be wrong.
SHUT THE FUCK UP OSCAR.
Even if you were real, which is proven over and over you are not. Who the fuck would risk their anonymity on a forum like this to get a degree.
YOU ARE PASSING AROUND PEOPLES REAL NAMES ON A DRUG FORUM.
If you are not Oscar (Which I very much doubt) then you are infact the biggest retard here. Will not reply to you again you retard as to not hide the evidence behind 3 pages of bullshit again.
NOW FUCK OFF TO YOUR WHORE MOTHER YOU SON OF A BITCH.
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Yawn.
I will update if anything changes on my end, not playing "internet tough guize" with seth tonight, just not into it. Esther, Cap, if you all get any updates plz hit me up.
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OZ has always dealt fairly with me. I'm waiting to hear back from him myself over some business but I feel sure that whatever the reason for not replying to messages today, he'll get back to us ASAP. Indeed it's one of the most vexing issues I find when I log in the evening after getting home from my day job only to find I've received several messages from the same person, convinced I've vanished into the ether! :-)
V.
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He has been answering me the whole day. Of course I have NOT payed for anything yet.
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not good at all
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He has been answering me the whole day. Of course I have NOT payed for anything yet.
Keep us updated k!
I'm eager to get my 2nd (&hopefully more useful) degree if this guy is not trolling.
What kind of degree are you purchasing, may I ask?
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I not buying. Havent gone braindead yet. This is what he told me about how he does it.
That is a good price. And even if this was not legit it would be worth a shot.
If you dont mind me asking how is this done. Is this done by hackers ? or is this done by inside people or something else ?
Please dont be offended I am only asking because of all the shit going on in the threat.
Hi, I understand your concern, the thread has gone crazy. Its done by people on the inside, and sometimes a little illegal stuff but not hacking. The degrees are good and won't get caught.
OZ
Now who in their right mind is willing to believe that firstly Oscar has a network of inside people in 300+ universities in the UK, plus alot of the US universities.
And secondly he can offer it for $400. He offered me a Computer Science BSc for $390 from the university of Michigan because as he puts it, its an average college.
LOL
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A good bottle of Scotch will run you more than $400.
Plus he told me I can call and confirm it on Monday.
I can order on Friday and I can confirm on Monday.
Yes the Uni of Michigan can be done, Computer Science BSc.
There's also Electrical Engineering if that's of any interest?
Time to arrange would be fairly quick, you'd be able to phone the uni and check things from Monday, and would re sieve the degree Friday next week, assuming you live in the US.
OZ
Yes IT i mean Computer Science. I dont want anything too flashy.
Can you get me a degree from University of Michigan ?
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OZ has always dealt fairly with me. I'm waiting to hear back from him myself over some business but I feel sure that whatever the reason for not replying to messages today, he'll get back to us ASAP. Indeed it's one of the most vexing issues I find when I log in the evening after getting home from my day job only to find I've received several messages from the same person, convinced I've vanished into the ether! :-)
V.
This is exactly what I'm thinking, he is busy and behind because he probably had one thousand messages (hell, four of them from me) regarding the issue. For whatever reason, I'm thinking this is not an easy process and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
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I think the key thing here is that he claims to have access to all UCAS universities (every single UK university).
I can understand bribing officials in 5, 10 even 20 universities.
Why would you even bother to bride officials in say the University of Bath or the University of Cumbria.
Who the fuck would ask you for that or even want that ?
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I think the key things here is that he claims to have access to all UCAS universities (every single UK university).
I can understand bribing officials in 5, 10 even 20 universities.
Why would you even bother to bride officials in say the University of Bath or the University of Cumbria.
Who the fuck would ask you for that or even want that ?
Just throwing out an idea, might be way off and for the record - I DONT WANT TO FUCKING KNOW - but what if the thing about the contacts isn't exactly true? What if the way he is doing this is a way that somehow violates a rule or two for this forum so he keeps the details vague? Again, just a thought. Or he put in months of effort, hundreds of posts, developed dozens of contacts so that he could take 4 or 5 people for 4 to 6 hundred USD. In my opinion, if he wanted to run a scam theres tons of better ways that would bring in a lot more money. This is just an incredible amount of bullshit to go through for what is honestly a low take, scamwise.
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Imagine these two little Chinese guys driving to the University of the Highlands and Islands in the mountains of Scotland to find some Scottish bloke to bride for a 3rd rate college.
LOL
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Imagine these two little Chinese guys driving to the University of the Highlands and Islands in the mountains of Scotland to find some Scottish bloke to bride for a 3rd rate college.
LOL
Laughed goddammit. Fucking hell.
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pulpfiction
"he wanted to run a scam theres tons of better ways that would bring in a lot more money"
I agree.
The scam could also be to gather info...
regardless who payed or not, I think it's safe to say everyone who gave their real names and/or addresses are atm praying it's _just_ a "previously-OK-guy-gone-scammer-on-the-way-out"...
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I think for a 14 year old he made a decent amount of money. 5 x $400 = $2000
As for the work he did, the whole setup is 30 minutes -1 hour tops.
His technical knowledge of computers is that of a 14 year old anyways.
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I think for a 14 year old he made a decent amount of money. 5 x $400 = $2000
As for the work he did, the whole setup is 30 minutes -1 hour tops.
His technical knowledge of computers is that of a 14 year old anyways.
>Has been replying to others all day, only the ones inquiring about new degrees
>Hasn't replied to my inquiry nor anything on the thread
Yeah, I guess we got our answer huh?
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I got my answer at "I can do all UCAS universities" and at "there is no hacking involved".
I had some hidden hope, in a "I know there is no God but I do hope am wrong" sort of way but realistically come on, all UK universities ?
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I do have his name and address though, and I also have a HK G3A4 fully automatic in the closet. ;) ;) ;)
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and you got that how?
I mean his name&address, not the...euh...dartgun :p
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In the last few days his been in a hurry and willing to accept bank wire instead of BTC.
Not a dartgun, 7.62 NATO not that AK 7.62x39 girly staff :P
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sounds more like LE than a scammer if accepting bank wire imo...
or am i missing something?
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I think he is too stupid to be LE.
LE would not distribute peoples names around the forum like this douchebag did.
Too lazy to be LE also.
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check PM
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I can't get degrees from MIT or Yale but I can get them from Oxford and Cambridge if that's of any interest.
Just having the paper is useless anyway, most good employers will phone to check so it needs to be on the university computer system too.
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Due to some confusion I'll explain it clearly here.
I now have access to a few Ivy League and lower US institutions which I was previously unaware of, through a contact. Not a large amount though, only a small select few.
Oscar you realize to sell these you need a vendor account?
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Of course he already send me the original, to another account 2 days ago.
So if I was LE with tyler having over 300 sales in 2 months, what would I be doing right now ?
hopefully this doesn't scare tyler off SR. he's a great vendor and i have a HUGE order with him right now outside of escrow :(
best of luck Tyler. I don't think this is LE.
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In the last few days his been in a hurry and willing to accept bank wire instead of BTC.
Not a dartgun, 7.62 NATO not that AK 7.62x39 girly staff :P
I'm afraid that won't do you much good, I helped OZ to set up a bank account in a false name, it can't be linked to him. The name and address in which the account was set up is real however. Please do not show up at some poor innocent man's door and blow him away! (This underpins incidentally why accepting payments in Bitcoins only is such a good idea...)
I've faith in his honesty although he has told me he's having connection problems at the moment, which would explain the delay in response. Many of my clients often complain I don't respond to queries during the day, unaware I work in a bank and can't always check messages. :-)
All the best,
V.
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Why would you give up where you work to defend Oscar ?
Also why would here respond to you and not leave a quick message on this threat?
EDIT:
He seems to be online right now.
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OZ is online atm
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Why would you give up where you work to defend Oscar ?
Also why would here respond to you and not leave a quick message on this threat?
EDIT:
He seems to be online right now.
Hi SteelSeth,
The fact I work in Finance is hardly a secret. I needed to reveal this in order to convince SR users that I would take good care of their money as part of the investment program I'm offering. I'm not defending him as much as the poor bastard in whose name his bank account is who could end up with a bullet in his brain !
V.
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how would he cash out? had a debit card on the man's name as well?
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how would he cash out? had a debit card on the man's name as well?
I'm afraid I can't go into details.
V.
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Why would you give up where you work to defend Oscar ?
Also why would here respond to you and not leave a quick message on this threat?
EDIT:
He seems to be online right now.
Hi SteelSeth,
The fact I work in Finance is hardly a secret. I needed to reveal this in order to convince SR users that I would take good care of their money as part of the investment program I'm offering. I'm not defending him as much as the poor bastard in whose name his bank account is who could end up with a bullet in his brain !
V.
Emmmm ..... ok
We know Oscars alleged fake bank account.
We know you work in a bank.
We know people mail you money for BTC.
The most probable assumption would be you set up an account in the branch you work at.
The second most probable assumption would be you set up an account to a different branch of your bank. We can then mail you $100 for BTC and get your location and then extrapolate which branch you work at.
The third less likely assumption would be you set him an account in a different bank than yours. But I find that highly unlikely and inefficient as a Polish anonymous bank account can be obtained on the internet for $100.
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V, counting on your opinion but Oz has been, again, nothing but cool with me and the only flags I'm seeing are the ones everyne in the thread throw up as they freak. I'm going to wait it out before judging, but thanks for the info it helps.
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vlad1m1r don't you feel exposed as well?
....and OZ's back offline again....
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pulpfiction == oscarzululondon
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Why would you give up where you work to defend Oscar ?
Also why would here respond to you and not leave a quick message on this threat?
EDIT:
He seems to be online right now.
Hi SteelSeth,
The fact I work in Finance is hardly a secret. I needed to reveal this in order to convince SR users that I would take good care of their money as part of the investment program I'm offering. I'm not defending him as much as the poor bastard in whose name his bank account is who could end up with a bullet in his brain !
V.
Emmmm ..... ok
We know Oscars alleged fake bank account.
We know you work in a bank.
We know people mail you money for BTC.
The most probable assumption would be you set up an account in the branch you work at.
The second most probable assumption would be you set up an account to a different branch of your bank. We can then mail you $100 for BTC and get your location and then extrapolate which branch you work at.
The third less likely assumption would be you set him an account in a different bank than yours. But I find that highly unlikely and inefficient as a Polish anonymous bank account can be obtained on the internet for $100.
Hi SteelSeth,
The man who receives the cash for my orders does have a bank account lives in a different part of Britain to me (I live in the Isle of Man), so I'm afraid you won't have any joy tracking down the bank accounts I use in this way. I really can't go into details as not only would it compromise OZ's safety but the safety of my entire operation, which still depends upon my ability to move funds anonymously through the banking network.
If you feel you've been unfairly treated, you're welcome to take it up with OZ but all I am saying is that anyone who has been provided with bank account details by him will not have any joy tracing him in this way - it's precisely for that reason that he came to me in the first place for help. I can tell you the name and address in which the account was set up was taken from the electoral register so if anyone does show up on that man's door step, he won't have the faintest idea what you're talking about! :-)
V.
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pulpfiction == oscarzululondon
seth,
I'm not sure if you're mentally handicapped, or perhaps your dad held back the hugs so you're just starved for attention and desperate for whatever attention you can find, but honestly dude, come up with something better. I've heard better from my ex, and trust me, that's pathetic. your fixation on me is starting to look homoerotic at this point.
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pulpfiction == oscarzululondon
seth,
I'm not sure if you're mentally handicapped, or perhaps your dad held back the hugs so you're just starved for attention and desperate for whatever attention you can find, but honestly dude, come up with something better. I've heard better from my ex, and trust me, that's pathetic. your fixation on me is starting to look homoerotic at this point.
Say what you want Oscar doesnt change the fact you are a scammer and a douchebag.
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so pulp what's your explanation for this?
on july 19th 09:57 PM (Thu) marxist is still interested in a college degree.
on july 24th 10:30 PM (Tue) got his degree...
So here's what happened:
After instantly chatting with marxist and going trough the process of detailing all his years/scores/attendances/points, he contacts his always-standby people in China/US...
They do a hell of a job, the univ. rushed delivery to OZL despite the weekend....
According to OZL on the 23rd, he did get "away for a few days to enjoy the sun", but no matter!
OZL promptly forwards it to marxist (who lives in another country), and Tue marxist's mailman dropped the package in his mailbox.
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vlad1m1r don't you feel exposed as well?
....and OZ's back offline again....
Thanks for your concern the short answer is no, I have developed a technique to move money anonymously through various banks without setting off any red flags with some heavy guidance from my mentor who has a intimate knowledge of AML techniques. So when I tell you that the account information with which OZ has provided you will not be suitable for blackmail/revenge purposes I'm afraid it's the truth - have I inadvertently aided a scammer to run off with our hard earned cash? I doubt it as there are easier ways to extort cash from people but time will tell.
V.
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Why would you give up where you work to defend Oscar ?
Also why would here respond to you and not leave a quick message on this threat?
EDIT:
He seems to be online right now.
Hi SteelSeth,
The fact I work in Finance is hardly a secret. I needed to reveal this in order to convince SR users that I would take good care of their money as part of the investment program I'm offering. I'm not defending him as much as the poor bastard in whose name his bank account is who could end up with a bullet in his brain !
V.
Emmmm ..... ok
We know Oscars alleged fake bank account.
We know you work in a bank.
We know people mail you money for BTC.
The most probable assumption would be you set up an account in the branch you work at.
The second most probable assumption would be you set up an account to a different branch of your bank. We can then mail you $100 for BTC and get your location and then extrapolate which branch you work at.
The third less likely assumption would be you set him an account in a different bank than yours. But I find that highly unlikely and inefficient as a Polish anonymous bank account can be obtained on the internet for $100.
Hi SteelSeth,
The man who receives the cash for my orders does have a bank account lives in a different part of Britain to me (I live in the Isle of Man), so I'm afraid you won't have any joy tracking down the bank accounts I use in this way. I really can't go into details as not only would it compromise OZ's safety but the safety of my entire operation, which still depends upon my ability to move funds anonymously through the banking network.
If you feel you've been unfairly treated, you're welcome to take it up with OZ but all I am saying is that anyone who has been provided with bank account details by him will not have any joy tracing him in this way - it's precisely for that reason that he came to me in the first place for help. I can tell you the name and address in which the account was set up was taken from the electoral register so if anyone does show up on that man's door step, he won't have the faintest idea what you're talking about! :-)
V.
Would not expect you to admit anything and I could not care less.
But I would imagine you went to all this trouble to setup an elaborate network because BTC is so illegal ( ::) ::) ::) ::) ::))
As for the poor man, you would be surprised what people admit to once you have tight grab on their balls.
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as there are easier ways to extort cash from people but time will tell.
V.
This. If he wanted to scam, with his credibility and experience he could have done so easily and for much larger amounts. He could have asked for more, knowing degrees are in. He could have sold bunk passports at 3k each. There's tons of scams that could net far more with far less effort.
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Why not give up Oscar's real information and protect this poor mans balls rather than protecting a scammer like Oscar that stole money for the members of this forum.
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as there are easier ways to extort cash from people but time will tell.
V.
This. If he wanted to scam, with his credibility and experience he could have done so easily and for much larger amounts. He could have asked for more, knowing degrees are in. He could have sold bunk passports at 3k each. There's tons of scams that could net far more with far less effort.
What was it you did exactly that was so time consuming or difficult ?
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"credibility and experience" ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? LOLLlllllllllllllllllllllllllll you crack me up Oscar ;D
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so pulp what's your explanation for this?
on july 19th 09:57 PM (Thu) marxist is still interested in a college degree.
on july 24th 10:30 PM (Tue) got his degree...
So here's what happened:
After instantly chatting with marxist and going trough the process of detailing all his years/scores/attendances/points, he contacts his always-standby people in China/US...
They do a hell of a job, the univ. rushed delivery to OZL despite the weekend....
According to OZL on the 23rd, he did get "away for a few days to enjoy the sun", but no matter!
OZL promptly forwards it to marxist (who lives in another country), and Tue marxist's mailman dropped the package in his mailbox.
Wish I had an explanation, but I'm not even sure where that happened in the thread, I missed it. All I know is, until I have a reason to freak, I am going to be fine. I'm not going to flip just because a kid on the forum decides to start screaming "Scam" and getting everyone worked up, or saying I'm Oz or whatever. I go by facts, and I have not seen any facts to decide one way or the other yet.
So aside from speculation, I'm going to back out of the thread until Durden or Cap have something to add. They're the only ones here in a position to really have an opinion at this point, everyone else is just spewing bullshit hypotheses.
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@vlad1m1r
Did he promise you a degree also ??
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Why would you give up where you work to defend Oscar ?
Also why would here respond to you and not leave a quick message on this threat?
EDIT:
He seems to be online right now.
Hi SteelSeth,
The fact I work in Finance is hardly a secret. I needed to reveal this in order to convince SR users that I would take good care of their money as part of the investment program I'm offering. I'm not defending him as much as the poor bastard in whose name his bank account is who could end up with a bullet in his brain !
V.
Emmmm ..... ok
We know Oscars alleged fake bank account.
We know you work in a bank.
We know people mail you money for BTC.
The most probable assumption would be you set up an account in the branch you work at.
The second most probable assumption would be you set up an account to a different branch of your bank. We can then mail you $100 for BTC and get your location and then extrapolate which branch you work at.
The third less likely assumption would be you set him an account in a different bank than yours. But I find that highly unlikely and inefficient as a Polish anonymous bank account can be obtained on the internet for $100.
Hi SteelSeth,
The man who receives the cash for my orders does have a bank account lives in a different part of Britain to me (I live in the Isle of Man), so I'm afraid you won't have any joy tracking down the bank accounts I use in this way. I really can't go into details as not only would it compromise OZ's safety but the safety of my entire operation, which still depends upon my ability to move funds anonymously through the banking network.
If you feel you've been unfairly treated, you're welcome to take it up with OZ but all I am saying is that anyone who has been provided with bank account details by him will not have any joy tracing him in this way - it's precisely for that reason that he came to me in the first place for help. I can tell you the name and address in which the account was set up was taken from the electoral register so if anyone does show up on that man's door step, he won't have the faintest idea what you're talking about! :-)
V.
Would not expect you to admit anything and I could not care less.
But I would imagine you went to all this trouble to setup an elaborate network because BTC is so illegal ( ::) ::) ::) ::) ::))
As for the poor man, you would be surprised what people admit to once you have tight grab on their balls.
As I mentioned in my previous post I didn't set up this elaborate network, I was taught how to adapt it to my needs by a more experienced colleague. While the Bitcoin in itself isn't illegal, buying large amounts in my own name would have raised flags at any high street bank you care to name due to the amounts moving through - I take pride in the fact that my service is one of the few ways to buy Bitcoins anonymously for this reason as I sell them for cash in the mail.
As I mention on my review thread the cash is deposited into a number of special accounts I use for this purpose in total anonymity - many people including those who work in Finance believe this to be impossible but there are a number of ways to do so if you have financial savvy and use some cunning. I would share these techniques happily with someone who wanted to set up a similar enterprise but not simply to prove a point - as I said, the name and address to which the account is registered is that of an innocent man, who may well not even have heard of Silk Road.
Those people who know me will know I have always dealt fairly and honestly with people on the forum - I don't endorse scamming but I also don't endorse harming innocent people; we may be criminals but I'd like to think we have a certain code of ethics and injuring third parties is not one of them.
I'm also not prepared to reveal OZ's real identity and location, even if he is a thief and you want to see him to get your money back. I'm sorry if this upsets anyone but it would set an appalling precedent. If you have been scammed then in future make sure you only deal with registered vendors on the forum and stay within escrow.
V.
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Why not give up Oscar's real information and protect this poor mans balls rather than protecting a scammer like Oscar that stole money for the members of this forum.
Out of the question.
V.
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Will be sending you a picture then.
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Reading through Seths posting history, I understand his problem with Oz now. Seth, tell everyone how Oz has owned you in previous threads. It's sad that you're so bitter, you had to -1 me the second you hit 100 and you have to carry out this fear-mongering and bullshit just because you were publically proven wrong. Your lack of knowledge regarding IT and security doesn't mean everyone here needs to panic.
So pathetic. I can't imagine how low I'd have to be in life to let something like a disagreement on an anonymous forum consume my life.
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...even if he is a thief and you want to see him to get your money back...
it's not the money I think some are worried about....
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Reading through Seths posting history, I understand his problem with Oz now. Seth, tell everyone how Oz has owned you in previous threads. It's sad that you're so bitter, you had to -1 me the second you hit 100 and you have to carry out this fear-mongering and bullshit just because you were publically proven wrong. Your lack of knowledge regarding IT and security doesn't mean everyone here needs to panic.
So pathetic. I can't imagine how low I'd have to be in life to let something like a disagreement on an anonymous forum consume my life.
You are a moron.
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Proof you are a moron by douchebags own admission. Also anyone knowing anything about IT will now understand you are a moron.
Hi Steelseth,
With regards to the direct thing, that's good. Please have my apologies for the trolling in the Javascript thread, although at the time I did find it hilarious. I should probably smoke less.
StExo will be my SR partner in the future, although he isn't at the moment. I have done a little bit of work for him (changing A-Level grades) but I'm not really sure what's going on with him, he want's to make a vendor account and has been saying he will for a while but he hasn't done it yet.
The idea being he will sell the degrees through the vendor account, meaning we can use escrow, and I don't have to deal with all the sales and questions because I get thousands and find that stuff incredibly boring.
He hasn't given me any customers yet though, and hasn't even made the vendor account yet so I'd say he isn't my partner yet. If he doesn't hurry up though he's going to miss the August deadline, although there's other things we can sell such as SAT's and A-Levels until 2014.
OZ
Hi Oscar, we havent exactly gotten along here but business is business so I will ask you directly.
I could have gotten a new account with no bad blood but I like being direct with people.
Is StExo your partner and will you be selling on SR ? I have no people with you and your partner's making money on the degrees infact I prefer you make money because people making money is what keeps business moving.
Thanks for your time.
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I would happily pay £250 for a degree from Reading. I got a 2:1 anyway but £250 to bump it to a first would be nice.
Are the all undergrad or can you get MA too? I suppose a mid-level uni like Reading the employer would be less likely to phone up to check your fake BA, especially if you also had a genuine MA from somewhere like Leeds.
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"Oz is having connection problems"
He's logged on and off constantly in the past 2 days. I really doubt that's happening right now.
He's even replied to constantly to people inquiring about buying a degree, but not to those who've already paid for one and are inquiring about it's progress.
Either vladimir is being naive or he's in with Oscar.
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Will be sending you a picture then.
I rather think you won't be able to persuade your mummy to lend you the train fare down there but if I read in the local papers that this man has been attacked I will offer a reward of £15,000 for information leading to the Perpetrator's arrest and conviction.
Try me, believe me I have considerably more resources at my disposal, you're just the kind of scum I've always despised, crime should be a science, not random bludgeoning of innocent people.
V.
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"Oz is having connection problems"
He's logged on and off constantly in the past 2 days. I really doubt that's happening right now.
He's even replied to constantly to people inquiring about buying a degree, but not to those who've already paid for one and are inquiring about it's progress.
Either vladimir is being naive or he's in with Oscar.
OZ's and I's business is separate to this degree program that seems to be on offer. I have urged him to register a vendor account so this is above board. OZ told me has been having connection problems, I have no reason to disbelieve him as he's dealt with me fairly in the past.
I didn't come here to take sides - only to say (for the third time now) that if he has supplied anyone with bank account information, it is in the name of a third party, a man who was selected at random from the electoral roll and whose safety it seems is being threatened.
I will make arrangements to have him watched if needs be for his own safety, I will not allow anyone to harm an innocent person even if OZ is a scammer and has taken advantage of the bank account. I don't care if I have to pay to have him followed night and day (I do know of people who offer this service), I will not allow him to be hurt just because of his name.
V.
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Wow... I just stumbled across this thread and thought I could have a discussion about buying degrees now it seems I have stumbled into some kind of den of espionage with people talking about assassinations and following people... I guess the degree discussion is over yeah?
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yo pulp.. did u put some type of morse code as your signature ?
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Will be sending you a picture then.
I rather think you won't be able to persuade your mummy to lend you the train fare down there but if I read in the local papers that this man has been attacked I will offer a reward of £15,000 for information leading to the Perpetrator's arrest and conviction.
Try me, believe me I have considerably more resources at my disposal, you're just the kind of scum I've always despised, crime should be a science, not random bludgeoning of innocent people.
V.
I dont do bullshit you little faggot. They wont find anything for you to read something in the newspaper. And bring it on bitch.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c552446360b68a1e735af86ca8d34a19.jpg
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+1 for V.
we need real heroes' .. whether we wrong or we right.
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Wow... I just stumbled across this thread and thought I could have a discussion about buying degrees now it seems I have stumbled into some kind of den of espionage with people talking about assassinations and following people... I guess the degree discussion is over yeah?
Hi dwhy,
It seems there are some people who bought degrees from OZ who have doubts that the offer is genuine. All well and good although I think they have no one but themselves to blame for not demanding he use a vendor account so they could stay in escrow. It appears in one case at least OZ accepted payment via bank transfer - I helped OZ to create a fake bank account in the name of a man who was plucked at random from the Electoral Register. Another user saw fit to threaten him if I didn't reveal OZ's real identity so I have said that as this man is an innocent third party, I will not be responsible for any harm coming to him and will arrange to have him protected if needs be.
I really have nothing to say about the degrees themselves, I'm sure we will hear from OZ himself in due course.
V.
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Wow... I just stumbled across this thread and thought I could have a discussion about buying degrees now it seems I have stumbled into some kind of den of espionage with people talking about assassinations and following people... I guess the degree discussion is over yeah?
Hi dwhy,
It seems there are some people who bought degrees from OZ who have doubts that the offer is genuine. All well and good although I think they have no one but themselves to blame for not demanding he use a vendor account so they could stay in escrow. It appears in one case at least OZ accepted payment via bank transfer - I helped OZ to create a fake bank account in the name of a man who was plucked at random from the Electoral Register. Another user saw fit to threaten him if I didn't reveal OZ's real identity so I have said that as this man is an innocent third party, I will not be responsible for any harm coming to him and will arrange to have him protected if needs be.
I really have nothing to say about the degrees themselves, I'm sure we will hear from OZ himself in due course.
V.
Why dont you refund the money Oscar stole and save us all the trouble.
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Will be sending you a picture then.
I rather think you won't be able to persuade your mummy to lend you the train fare down there but if I read in the local papers that this man has been attacked I will offer a reward of £15,000 for information leading to the Perpetrator's arrest and conviction.
Try me, believe me I have considerably more resources at my disposal, you're just the kind of scum I've always despised, crime should be a science, not random bludgeoning of innocent people.
V.
I dont do bullshit you little faggot. They wont find anything for you to read something in the newspaper. And bring it on bitch.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c552446360b68a1e735af86ca8d34a19.jpg
Oh he mad.jpg
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Will be sending you a picture then.
I rather think you won't be able to persuade your mummy to lend you the train fare down there but if I read in the local papers that this man has been attacked I will offer a reward of £15,000 for information leading to the Perpetrator's arrest and conviction.
Try me, believe me I have considerably more resources at my disposal, you're just the kind of scum I've always despised, crime should be a science, not random bludgeoning of innocent people.
V.
I dont do bullshit you little faggot. They wont find anything for you to read something in the newspaper. And bring it on bitch.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c552446360b68a1e735af86ca8d34a19.jpg
Was that piece of tat supposed to shock me? Have you ever actually fired in combat? You see, it's not just me you're up against.
I'm no bully but I will not see violence against innocent people- this is one of the advantages of SR in that it eliminates the need for drug related murders. In the unlikely event you're not just a limp wristed prick trying to act the internet tough guy I will make arrangements to have this man watched, I don't care what it costs me, you will not harm an innocent man to try and get to me. This is the essence of Terrorism and I will stop at nothing to prevent it - do you understand me?
V.
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Fucking Hell... Regardless of who has been ripped and by whom I think it is a pretty fucked and also completely unproductive thing to do to go and attack the poor sod who has had his identity stolen. What is that going to achieve for anyone? Except maybe get the person who has already lost money get a Section 18 GBH charge and a possible IPP sentence?
I think if anyone is thinking of attacking an innocent fella they need to reevaluate the situation.
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I'm sure we will hear from OZ himself in due course.
I'm sure that If he made SOME sort of statement everybody could at least stop...euh... this.
(besides 'connection issues' while logging in several times)
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Wow... I just stumbled across this thread and thought I could have a discussion about buying degrees now it seems I have stumbled into some kind of den of espionage with people talking about assassinations and following people... I guess the degree discussion is over yeah?
Hi dwhy,
It seems there are some people who bought degrees from OZ who have doubts that the offer is genuine. All well and good although I think they have no one but themselves to blame for not demanding he use a vendor account so they could stay in escrow. It appears in one case at least OZ accepted payment via bank transfer - I helped OZ to create a fake bank account in the name of a man who was plucked at random from the Electoral Register. Another user saw fit to threaten him if I didn't reveal OZ's real identity so I have said that as this man is an innocent third party, I will not be responsible for any harm coming to him and will arrange to have him protected if needs be.
I really have nothing to say about the degrees themselves, I'm sure we will hear from OZ himself in due course.
V.
Why dont you refund the money Oscar stole and save us all the trouble.
The only one in trouble here is you. You're scum who threatens innocent people and I would spend a hundred times the money you've paid for these degree certificates to keep this man safe. He has nothing to do with any of this.
V.
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Will be sending you a picture then.
I rather think you won't be able to persuade your mummy to lend you the train fare down there but if I read in the local papers that this man has been attacked I will offer a reward of £15,000 for information leading to the Perpetrator's arrest and conviction.
Try me, believe me I have considerably more resources at my disposal, you're just the kind of scum I've always despised, crime should be a science, not random bludgeoning of innocent people.
V.
I dont do bullshit you little faggot. They wont find anything for you to read something in the newspaper. And bring it on bitch.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c552446360b68a1e735af86ca8d34a19.jpg
Was that piece of tat supposed to shock me? Have you ever actually fired in combat? You see, it's not just me you're up against.
I'm no bully but I will not see violence against innocent people- this is one of the advantages of SR in that it eliminates the need for drug related murders. In the unlikely event you're not just a limp wristed prick trying to act the internet tough guy I will make arrangements to have this man watched, I don't care what it costs me, you will not harm an innocent man to try and get to me. This is the essence of Terrorism and I will stop at nothing to prevent it - do you understand me?
V.
Big words. Will not post about this again. Do what you must. Swear as much as you want, threaten as much as you want.
My intentions are clear. Don't fear your theoretical army.
2 choices.
Either pay the money your friend stole or pay to have him watched 24/7.
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I'm sure we will hear from OZ himself in due course.
I'm sure that If he made SOME sort of statement everybody could at least stop...euh... this.
(besides 'connection issues' while logging in several times)
Unless you're personally invested in this, I don't think he owes you a thing. I'm not agreeing that he owes you explanations. The only people he needs to communicate with at all are those who are invested financially in this one way or another and I am still positive he will communicate.
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"Either pay the money your friend stole or pay to have him watched 24/7."
Seth, I hate to break this to you but the only people in the world who fear or dread your presence are females. No one is buying your ninja act. As I've said before, you're just pathetic. And now I'm actually feeling sorry for you a bit. You're like a retarded child with a toy laser gun that you more than likely honestly believe to be real.
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I don't think he owes you a thing.
Ya, but what about the innocent guy that OZ has exposed?
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Will be sending you a picture then.
I rather think you won't be able to persuade your mummy to lend you the train fare down there but if I read in the local papers that this man has been attacked I will offer a reward of £15,000 for information leading to the Perpetrator's arrest and conviction.
Try me, believe me I have considerably more resources at my disposal, you're just the kind of scum I've always despised, crime should be a science, not random bludgeoning of innocent people.
V.
I dont do bullshit you little faggot. They wont find anything for you to read something in the newspaper. And bring it on bitch.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c552446360b68a1e735af86ca8d34a19.jpg
Was that piece of tat supposed to shock me? Have you ever actually fired in combat? You see, it's not just me you're up against.
I'm no bully but I will not see violence against innocent people- this is one of the advantages of SR in that it eliminates the need for drug related murders. In the unlikely event you're not just a limp wristed prick trying to act the internet tough guy I will make arrangements to have this man watched, I don't care what it costs me, you will not harm an innocent man to try and get to me. This is the essence of Terrorism and I will stop at nothing to prevent it - do you understand me?
V.
Big words. Will not post about this again. Do what you must. Swear as much as you want, threaten as much as you want.
My intentions are clear. Don't fear your theoretical army.
2 choices.
Either pay the money your friend stole or pay to have him watched 24/7.
Oh, it's not my army SteelSeth, I'm not that sort of criminal. Luckily I have a few friends who don't mind getting their hands dirty.
The man in question isn't my friend, I don't know him from Adam which is rather the point. He has nothing to do with your delayed order/stupidity at being scammed.
I suppose simply offer a reward on here and on the Armory for your personal details? I see you have an account on SR in this name, have you ever had any products shipped to your own address from there?
However short of killing you in cold blood (which I'm not prepared to endorse) that information wouldn't be of much use - I'll happily pay for this man to be watched. As you say you've made your intentions clear, now I'll make mine - if any harm comes to this man, I'll see it taken out on your body ten times over. Do you really think I'm bluffing? If I have to spend my entire fortune on this, I will. It's a matter of principle, I'm not going to allow scum like you to threaten the Innocent.
V.
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I don't think he owes you a thing.
Ya, but what about the innocent guy that OZ has exposed?
I will have him watched indefinitely if needs be, I can afford it. I don't want his death on my conscience.
V.
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@vlad1m1r
I have never been threaten like this by a bank clerk. Keep it up its giving me a hardon.
I bet you are a little German bitch that sucks the bank managers cock every morning.
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Have NOT payed Oscar anything and do NOT want money for me. Bitch.
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going back to the degrees !! i think i want one :) are they still going ?? im going to look into what degree i want lol . :)
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@vlad1m1r
I have never been threaten like this by a bank clerk. Keep it up its giving me a hardon.
I bet you are a little German bitch that sucks the bank managers cock every morning.
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Have NOT payed Oscar anything and do NOT want money for me. Bitch.
Have you ever tried to operate a rifle without your right index finger or thumb Seth? I'm told it's rather difficult. Make your move, I'm going to request photographs - I want to make it clear what happens to scum who threaten innocent people. It seems to be the only way to teach you a lesson.
V.
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I don't want his death on my conscience.
I think it's more about OZ's conscience than yours to be fair (imo).
I think people are more mad/confused/aggressive/escalating etc. because some are still uncertain, or afraid if names get leaked...
that's why i say a statement of oz could be helpful. Not for me, but for this whole rather volatile thread and possible InnocentBankaccountGuy.
just my 0.0002 btc's...
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Fuck me Vlad my old fruit you are bringin out the iron fist. I always thought you were on the pacifist side of things, gotta say, I'm impressed. Boss. 8)
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WOW just wow 1st at the people who payed this guy, old timers are u fukin crazy hed have to be the no1 fake degrees guy in the world to be able to get fake oxford degrees and have links in every uni. and for $400 are u insane they would sel to rich people 100 times more for a oxford degree ,but u find some gimp on a forum and he convinces u hes got these contacts but hangs on here please
u carnt blame anyone for getting scammed here it was so obvious
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Fuck me Vlad my old fruit you are bringin out the iron fist. I always thought you were on the pacifist side of things, gotta say, I'm impressed. Boss. 8)
Thanks Lim, it's my fault this man's name is on this goon's radar and he has absolutely nothing to do with any of this, I can't let him be hurt, even if it means making an example of some hothead or dipping in to my nest egg. I'm no mafioso but I've contacted a mutual friend of ours who's happy to hire out his people on an as and when basis - the zero hours contract lives on for organised crime it seems. :-)
V.
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Fuck me Vlad my old fruit you are bringin out the iron fist. I always thought you were on the pacifist side of things, gotta say, I'm impressed. Boss. 8)
Thanks Lim, it's my fault this man's name is on this goon's radar and he has absolutely nothing to do with any of this, I can't let him be hurt, even if it means making an example of some hothead or dipping in to my nest egg. I'm no mafioso but I've contacted a mutual friend of ours who's happy to hire out his people on an as and when basis - the zero hours contract lives on for organised crime it seems. :-)
V.
You've earned my full respect. It's a rare occasion when I get to say that to someone.
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@vlad1m1r
I have never been threaten like this by a bank clerk. Keep it up its giving me a hardon.
I bet you are a little German bitch that sucks the bank managers cock every morning.
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Have NOT payed Oscar anything and do NOT want money for me. Bitch.
Have you ever tried to operate a rifle without your right index finger or thumb Seth? I'm told it's rather difficult. Make your move, I'm going to request photographs - I want to make it clear what happens to scum who threaten innocent people. It seems to be the only way to teach you a lesson.
V.
Let me see if I got this right.
Your client stole money from the people here and you came to defend him.
You used an innocent man's name to commit fraud with oscarzululondon.
You are willing to spent thousands of dollars to protect your victim but will not pay 2k - 3k of the money your client stole.
You are having a fight about who's dick is bigger on an anonymous forum with a potentially unstable man that has send you a picture with a gun and your name on it and claims to have your vistims address and will pay him a visit.
Well done to you sir. You have raised internet stupidity to a new level.
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Can someone give me what happened here in a sweet and sugary nutshell that is easily digestible at 11.51 at night?
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@vlad1m1r
I have never been threaten like this by a bank clerk. Keep it up its giving me a hardon.
I bet you are a little German bitch that sucks the bank managers cock every morning.
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Have NOT payed Oscar anything and do NOT want money for me. Bitch.
Have you ever tried to operate a rifle without your right index finger or thumb Seth? I'm told it's rather difficult. Make your move, I'm going to request photographs - I want to make it clear what happens to scum who threaten innocent people. It seems to be the only way to teach you a lesson.
V.
Let me see if I got this right.
Your client stole money from the people here and you came to defend him.
You used an innocent man's name to commit fraud with oscarzululondon.
You are willing to spent thousands of dollars to protect your victim but will not pay 2k - 3k of the money your client stole.
You are having a fight about who's dick is bigger on an anonymous forum with a potentially unstable man that has send you a picture with a gun and your name on it and claims to have your vistims address and will pay him a visit.
Well done to you sir. You have raised internet stupidity to a new level.
No, you haven't got it right, every one of the points you mentioned there are so far removed from the truth they're ridiculous. If you want to know what happened, read through the thread.
V.
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8) looks like a job for the TERMINATOR
apparently an unstoppable cyborg who is sent from the future to kill the eventual mother of a resistance leader.
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Can someone give me what happened here in a sweet and sugary nutshell that is easily digestible at 11.51 at night?
As I understand it.
Steel has Oscars address.
Vlad told him its not Oscars but an innocents man.
Steel told him he doesnt care and Vlad should give him the real address.
Then they threatened each other for 30 minutes.
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Also that gun don't even look legit, looks like something you'd buy at the Toys R Us more realistic section lol. Also, guy can't even spell blood properly, if he can't see well enough to spell a 5 letter word he probs can't see well enough to shoot someone lol.
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Can someone give me what happened here in a sweet and sugary nutshell that is easily digestible at 11.51 at night?
As I understand it.
Steel has Oscars address.
Vlad told him its not Oscars but an innocents man.
Steel told him he doesnt care and Vlad should give him the real address.
Then they threatened each other for 30 minutes.
I think my palm just went through my face. My palm and my face just melded together.
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@vlad1m1r
I have never been threaten like this by a bank clerk. Keep it up its giving me a hardon.
I bet you are a little German bitch that sucks the bank managers cock every morning.
EDIT:
Have NOT payed Oscar anything and do NOT want money for me. Bitch.
Have you ever tried to operate a rifle without your right index finger or thumb Seth? I'm told it's rather difficult. Make your move, I'm going to request photographs - I want to make it clear what happens to scum who threaten innocent people. It seems to be the only way to teach you a lesson.
V.
Let me see if I got this right.
Your client stole money from the people here and you came to defend him.
You used an innocent man's name to commit fraud with oscarzululondon.
You are willing to spent thousands of dollars to protect your victim but will not pay 2k - 3k of the money your client stole.
You are having a fight about who's dick is bigger on an anonymous forum with a potentially unstable man that has send you a picture with a gun and your name on it and claims to have your vistims address and will pay him a visit.
Well done to you sir. You have raised internet stupidity to a new level.
No, you haven't got it right, every one of the points you mentioned there are so far removed from the truth they're ridiculous. If you want to know what happened, read through the thread.
V.
Actually I think I am spot on, with the exception that we are still waiting to see if Oscar stole the money or not.
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I am curious as to why Oscar wasn't selling these via escrow. Or was he and I missed that?
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Can someone give me what happened here in a sweet and sugary nutshell that is easily digestible at 11.51 at night?
- OZ has been offering degrees for sale online from various Universities.
- Several people are concerned about their orders.
- OZ accepted payment via bank transfer for one or two such degrees.
- One user suggested tracing him via this method to threaten/injure/kill/whatever him.
- I told them this wouldn't do much good as the bank account was one I had set up for OZ in the name of a man I'd selected at random from the Electoral Roll in the area.
- The user in question threatened to harm this man if I didn't reveal OZ's identity, I refused.
- He sent me a picture of a gun with my name near it saying I'd have blood in my hands if I didn't give up OZ's real name and address.
- I said I would arrange to have the man watched and protected if necessary. From the comments I've seen here it might be a sensible precaution! If our erstwhile user makes a move on an innocent third party, I've decided to ask to have his thumb and one of his fingers removed - am still waiting on a quote for this from our mutual friend.
V.
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http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=7c0238ee86f7662fa407641a56845b98.jpg">The Image</a>
its me , V. and the rest of the crew
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- OZ has been offering degrees for sale online from various Universities.
- Several people are concerned about their orders.
- OZ accepted payment via bank transfer for one or two such degrees.
- One user suggested tracing him via this method to threaten/injure/kill/whatever him.
- I told them this wouldn't do much good as the bank account was one I had set up for OZ in the name of a man I'd selected at random from the Electoral Roll in the area.
- The user in question threatened to harm this man if I didn't reveal OZ's identity, I refused.
- He sent me a picture of a gun with my name near it saying I'd have blood in my hands if I didn't give up OZ's real name and address.
- I said I would arrange to have the man watched and protected if necessary. From the comments I've seen here it might be a sensible precaution! If our erstwhile user makes a move on an innocent third party, I've decided to ask to have his thumb and one of his fingers removed - am still waiting on a quote for this from our mutual friend.
V.
Well that escalated quickly. :o
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Oh lovely bit of late night drama.
This cunt threatening innocent people deserves to have more than a thumb and finger removed, I think.
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@vlad1m1r
I have never been threaten like this by a bank clerk. Keep it up its giving me a hardon.
I bet you are a little German bitch that sucks the bank managers cock every morning.
EDIT:
Have NOT payed Oscar anything and do NOT want money for me. Bitch.
Have you ever tried to operate a rifle without your right index finger or thumb Seth? I'm told it's rather difficult. Make your move, I'm going to request photographs - I want to make it clear what happens to scum who threaten innocent people. It seems to be the only way to teach you a lesson.
V.
Let me see if I got this right.
Your client stole money from the people here and you came to defend him.
You used an innocent man's name to commit fraud with oscarzululondon.
You are willing to spent thousands of dollars to protect your victim but will not pay 2k - 3k of the money your client stole.
You are having a fight about who's dick is bigger on an anonymous forum with a potentially unstable man that has send you a picture with a gun and your name on it and claims to have your vistims address and will pay him a visit.
Well done to you sir. You have raised internet stupidity to a new level.
No, you haven't got it right, every one of the points you mentioned there are so far removed from the truth they're ridiculous. If you want to know what happened, read through the thread.
V.
Actually I think I am spot on, with the exception that we are still waiting to see if Oscar stole the money or not.
No you're a fucking moron, if you want to go all out on this here's why:
- I didn't come to "defend" OZ, only to say he cannot be traced through the bank details he gave out.
- I did not use an innocent man's name to commit fraud with OZ. I used it so he would be able to accept payment's anonymously. There's no proof at this stage that he has acted fradulently.
- Yes, I will pay to protect an innocent man. No I will not reimburse people who have either been scammed through their own stupidity or are simply waiting on an order. (I don't even care which one is the case) I'm waiting to hear back from OZ myself on an unrelated business matter and I'm not overly concerned at this point.
- No, this isn't about who's dick is bigger, this is about protecting the innocent. I don't have an army to mobilise and freely admit I will have to draft in outside help to protect this man if necessary but I do have the resources to do so and am determined not to make him responsible for some idiot's rantings. If he does attempt to follow through on the tough guy talk I have asked to make sure that he won't be able to use a gun ever again, thus removing a threat to society.
In future to save me having to retype everything why not actually read the thread?
V.
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Right, has to be said this does sound like an utter load of bollocks to me. For starters, nobody is going to go and shoot someone for the sake of a few 100 quid, the guy who has the toy gun and Dyslexia is clearly bluffing. On the other hand I think we are missing a huge point here and that is why was Oscar selling anything without using escrow? That is not allowed here and basically because shit like this happens. Another and possibly more important question is why was Oscar taking payments via BANK TRANSFER? Sorry Oscar but you have been an utter fool on this and should damn well know better.
I have no idea if Oscar is bent or this is a misunderstanding but selling without an account and using bank transfers is certainly pinning my eyebrows quite far up my forehead. It's complete folly to do business on SR in this way and it's an infringement of the rules.
Also who is this poor fuck who apparently isn't Oscar but Dyslexic Paint-Baller has the address of? What part of this shit-sandwich is he?
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It seems some guys have been doing way too much coke lately...
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It seems some guys have been doing way too much coke lately...
+1 And I thought I was a bit too heavy on it. :-\
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Everyman's got to have a code, don't think that by threatening Vlad it'll make him break his. Oz is obviously a cretin but anybody buying oxford/cambridge (did they even ask which oxford or cambridge university because there are loads) degrees off here is only proving they are not intelligent enough to hold it in the first place.
Seth (who i think is the person doing the threatening) you said "bring it bitch", that statement alone shows that you're no gunman.
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Also that gun don't even look legit, looks like something you'd buy at the Toys R Us more realistic section lol. Also, guy can't even spell blood properly, if he can't see well enough to spell a 5 letter word he probs can't see well enough to shoot someone lol.
The gun is real. This is what the Turkish army uses. I had one for 2 years when I was in the army.
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thank you for pointing out that TURKISH gun.
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On so many levels, this is the most fascinating forum thread, ever. Late-night drama, lies, high-end forgery, threats of violence, stolen identities, thrills, excitement...
Thanks, SR, for making it possible.
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this the cool thing though.. nobody is going to get killed.. Just learn.A.Lesson
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Also who is this poor fuck who apparently isn't Oscar but Dyslexic Paint-Baller has the address of? What part of this shit-sandwich is he?
An innocent bystander, someone who's name and address I selected at random from the Electoral Roll via a Credit Reference Agency - so you see I'd bear some measure of responsibility if something happened to him. You're right of course OZ should have been using a vendor's account but there's nothing to be done now - he also shouldn't have used those bank details for these purposes but once again we find ourselves with a situation as is, rather than we'd like it to be.
I don't care who scammed or didn't scam who. The man whose bank account details may be circulating on the forum must not be harmed - I have made arrangements for this and can and will keep them in place for as long as is necessary.
If I gave anyone the wrong impression in being kind and friendly on the forums, you have my apologies. I am not a pushover and I will draft in as much muscle as is needed to enforce this.
V.
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Also that gun don't even look legit, looks like something you'd buy at the Toys R Us more realistic section lol. Also, guy can't even spell blood properly, if he can't see well enough to spell a 5 letter word he probs can't see well enough to shoot someone lol.
The gun is real. This is what the Turkish army uses. I had one for 2 years when I was in the army.
Ah really? Fair enough if it is legit then. Still though, nobody is going to go round and shoot someone for a few hundred quid, it's a bluff. Seems a big dose of common sense is needed here.
Read the second line of Shannon's post above, not a truer word spoken.
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in this thread: two internet tough guys sucking each other off
real killers move in silence
The real killers are moving in silence, I've put them there. Anyone who wants to call my bluff, please by all means try to come near this address looking for trouble, I don't really care which scumbag's fingers have to be sacrificed to send a message to the rest.
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Just pointing out the gun is real, nothing else.
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Also that gun don't even look legit, looks like something you'd buy at the Toys R Us more realistic section lol. Also, guy can't even spell blood properly, if he can't see well enough to spell a 5 letter word he probs can't see well enough to shoot someone lol.
The gun is real. This is what the Turkish army uses. I had one for 2 years when I was in the army.
Out of interest was there a spelling test to sign up? It's just I imagine the word "blood" would crop up fairly regularly in military parlance.
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8) u did good ! QuikComment.. no worries !
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lol.. i think he mean "ball" is in your court a simple metaphor. lol
we don't play in the "game" .. were referees'
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=d659c85ee5f5219239a9f551c73a4e58.jpg">The Image</a>
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Also that gun don't even look legit, looks like something you'd buy at the Toys R Us more realistic section lol. Also, guy can't even spell blood properly, if he can't see well enough to spell a 5 letter word he probs can't see well enough to shoot someone lol.
The gun is real. This is what the Turkish army uses. I had one for 2 years when I was in the army.
Ah really? Fair enough if it is legit then. Still though, nobody is going to go round and shoot someone for a few hundred quid, it's a bluff. Seems a big dose of common sense is needed here.
Read the second line of Shannon's post above, not a truer word spoken.
Again, just want to point out RE: seth getting pissy and threatening people - he has not even invested in this. He's literally completely out of it. So he wouldn't even be doing it for a few hundred quid. He'd be doing it strictly to prove a point, which is even less likely.
He's an idiot and nothing more.
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Also who is this poor fuck who apparently isn't Oscar but Dyslexic Paint-Baller has the address of? What part of this shit-sandwich is he?
An innocent bystander, someone who's name and address I selected at random from the Electoral Roll via a Credit Reference Agency - so you see I'd bear some measure of responsibility if something happened to him. You're right of course OZ should have been using a vendor's account but there's nothing to be done now - he also shouldn't have used those bank details for these purposes but once again we find ourselves with a situation as is, rather than we'd like it to be.
I don't care who scammed or didn't scam who. The man whose bank account details may be circulating on the forum must not be harmed - I have made arrangements for this and can and will keep them in place for as long as is necessary.
If I gave anyone the wrong impression in being kind and friendly on the forums, you have my apologies. I am not a pushover and I will draft in as much muscle as is needed to enforce this.
V.
Right. Slight fuck-up there Vlad but like ya said it's done now.
And Dyslexic Rambo isn't going to go round anywhere lol, he's just talking balls. Nobody is gunna murder anyone over a few 100 quid which I have said too many times now.
Where is Oscar anyway? He needs to sort his life out and clean up the trail of destruction he decided to make by thinking that general written and unwritten rules didn't apply to him.
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Also that gun don't even look legit, looks like something you'd buy at the Toys R Us more realistic section lol. Also, guy can't even spell blood properly, if he can't see well enough to spell a 5 letter word he probs can't see well enough to shoot someone lol.
The gun is real. This is what the Turkish army uses. I had one for 2 years when I was in the army.
Ah really? Fair enough if it is legit then. Still though, nobody is going to go round and shoot someone for a few hundred quid, it's a bluff. Seems a big dose of common sense is needed here.
Read the second line of Shannon's post above, not a truer word spoken.
Again, just want to point out RE: seth getting pissy and threatening people - he has not even invested in this. He's literally completely out of it. So he wouldn't even be doing it for a few hundred quid. He'd be doing it strictly to prove a point, which is even less likely.
He's an idiot and nothing more.
I'm inclined to agree with you but he may be an idiot with a gun. I can't take any chances - the only thing to do is make sure if he does show up he won't have the chance to use a gun again. I'm not inclined to melodrama but it's the only way to keep this poor man safe.
V.
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Also that gun don't even look legit, looks like something you'd buy at the Toys R Us more realistic section lol. Also, guy can't even spell blood properly, if he can't see well enough to spell a 5 letter word he probs can't see well enough to shoot someone lol.
The gun is real. This is what the Turkish army uses. I had one for 2 years when I was in the army.
Ah really? Fair enough if it is legit then. Still though, nobody is going to go round and shoot someone for a few hundred quid, it's a bluff. Seems a big dose of common sense is needed here.
Read the second line of Shannon's post above, not a truer word spoken.
Again, just want to point out RE: seth getting pissy and threatening people - he has not even invested in this. He's literally completely out of it. So he wouldn't even be doing it for a few hundred quid. He'd be doing it strictly to prove a point, which is even less likely.
He's an idiot and nothing more.
Haha if that is the case then he really is full of shit "I'm going to go shoot someone who nicked £200 off someone I never met" - yeah right. He's probably just put the kettle on and watching all this unfold and pissin himself.
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in this thread: two internet tough guys sucking each other off
real killers move in silence
The real killers are moving in silence, I've put them there. Anyone who wants to call my bluff, please by all means try to come near this address looking for trouble, I don't really care which scumbag's fingers have to be sacrificed to send a message to the rest.
V.
Why do you feel the need to prove yourself ?
Besides, if all of this internet tough guys masquerade was to be true, it wouldn't do much good to the SR...
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i think Chil' , cuz there may be a innocent man life at stake. :'(
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all i can see is that a certain person is highly honourable and has always conducted themselves like a gentlemen. its nice to have your online impression of someone backed up.
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Also that gun don't even look legit, looks like something you'd buy at the Toys R Us more realistic section lol. Also, guy can't even spell blood properly, if he can't see well enough to spell a 5 letter word he probs can't see well enough to shoot someone lol.
The gun is real. This is what the Turkish army uses. I had one for 2 years when I was in the army.
Ah really? Fair enough if it is legit then. Still though, nobody is going to go round and shoot someone for a few hundred quid, it's a bluff. Seems a big dose of common sense is needed here.
Read the second line of Shannon's post above, not a truer word spoken.
Again, just want to point out RE: seth getting pissy and threatening people - he has not even invested in this. He's literally completely out of it. So he wouldn't even be doing it for a few hundred quid. He'd be doing it strictly to prove a point, which is even less likely.
He's an idiot and nothing more.
Haha if that is the case then he really is full of shit "I'm going to go shoot someone who nicked £200 off someone I never met" - yeah right. He's probably just put the kettle on and watching all this unfold and pissin himself.
True.
But I am going to spend thousands of dollars to protect the man I stole his identity doesn't sound any better to me.
Both full of shit.
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i think Chil' , cuz there may be a innocent man life at stake. :'(
Yes, but if those hitmen Vlad supposedly hired are really going to be watching that poor man's house, he wouldn't need to tell everyone, Seth would go there and get cut right ? Hence the bluff.
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The one is pretending to be Rambo and the other the Godfather.
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Maybe Scarface vs Godfather.
Pacino vs Pacino
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lol.. maybe 8)
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SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND! And also to my ridiculous typo.....
Anyway on that note I'm off for a bath. Time to exfoliate, scrub and put on my face mark. If any of you have a vagina and are under the age of 30 with looks rated 7/10 you may feel free to join me. :P
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i think Chil' , cuz there may be a innocent man life at stake. :'(
Yes, but if those hitmen Vlad supposedly hired are really going to be watching that poor man's house, he wouldn't need to tell everyone, Seth would go there and get cut right ? Hence the bluff.
You don't appreciate the delicacy of the situation. This needs to begin and end here on SR ideally. I have no desire to be seen as some "Godfather" figure - I'm not using men who've signed some kind of blood pact, I'm hiring them. This situation is very messy so forgive me if I try and put the toothpaste back in the tube here and now rather than post photographs of some numbskull's severed fingers as a warning.
V.
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The one is pretending to be Rambo and the other the Godfather.
I'm not even a criminal in the strictest sense of the word but if I have to break the law to defend this man I will.
V.
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You should have gone for the blood-pact Vlad, adds drama to the occasion. :P
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Maybe you can make him an offer he can not refuse. ::)
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Also that gun don't even look legit, looks like something you'd buy at the Toys R Us more realistic section lol. Also, guy can't even spell blood properly, if he can't see well enough to spell a 5 letter word he probs can't see well enough to shoot someone lol.
The gun is real. This is what the Turkish army uses. I had one for 2 years when I was in the army.
Ah really? Fair enough if it is legit then. Still though, nobody is going to go round and shoot someone for a few hundred quid, it's a bluff. Seems a big dose of common sense is needed here.
Read the second line of Shannon's post above, not a truer word spoken.
Again, just want to point out RE: seth getting pissy and threatening people - he has not even invested in this. He's literally completely out of it. So he wouldn't even be doing it for a few hundred quid. He'd be doing it strictly to prove a point, which is even less likely.
He's an idiot and nothing more.
Haha if that is the case then he really is full of shit "I'm going to go shoot someone who nicked £200 off someone I never met" - yeah right. He's probably just put the kettle on and watching all this unfold and pissin himself.
True.
But I am going to spend thousands of dollars to protect the man I stole his identity doesn't sound any better to me.
Both full of shit.
I appreciate you might take issue at the idea of someone having a) half a brain and b) a conscience but I'm not responsible for your ignorance. I told you in my previous post that you were a moron, it's always pleasing to see my first impression was correct.
V.
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You should have gone for the blood-pact Vlad, adds drama to the occasion. :P
Can't you get tetanus that way? Or is that just from glass? :-)
V.
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lol.. i love SR.
you all are my real FAMILY 8)
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Maybe you can make him an offer he can not refuse. ::)
Would you consider half price bus tickets for a month an offer you could not refuse? I will make this offer for three planks of wood and a pickled egg! No refunds.
And yeah ya can Vlad but that's why you bring TCP and Dettol to the occasion. :P
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If you were not full of shit, you would have PM him and told him what needed to be said.
Not post it in the forum and look like the fool you are.
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he would of.. untill he made it a public forum comment..
hence the reason to make a LESSON 2 be LEARNED.
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This needs to begin and end here on SR ideally.
Yes, very ideally, and it needs to end now, because that's not the kind of publicity we want for SR. We don't want any murder or criminal violence being linked to SR. Whether you both are for real or not doesn't matter, just end the silliness.
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If you were not full of shit, you would have PM him and told him what needed to be said.
Not post it in the forum and look like the fool you are.
Why don't you let me decide how I allocate my own resources and send my messages and you go fuck yourself? Seriously, take an object of your choosing and stick it up your anus, you'll find it as fulfiling as trying to get one over on me, moron.
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he would of.. untill he made it a public forum comment..
hence the reason to make a LESSON 2 be LEARNED.
A lesson ? Here ? I could be Obama for all you know. 8)
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Can't we just pass over all this now,. clearly Rambo has gone to bed so all this is a non-issue.
Where is OscarZulu? People seem to be forgetting he caused this and yet it seems to be the only thing nobody is addressing.
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This needs to begin and end here on SR ideally.
Yes, very ideally, and it needs to end now, because that's not the kind of publicity we want for SR. We don't want any murder or criminal violence being linked to SR. Whether you both are for real or not doesn't matter, just end the silliness.
How it ends is not up to me but to the crackhead who threatened this man. It'll either end in him backing down and leaving him in peace or in the removal of fingers which will then be posted in here in all the gory detail a camera may provide I'm assured. I'm hoping for option 1, it would cost less for me and would be better for SR.
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Maybe Don Corleone here can tell us where he is instead of demonstrating how little brain matter he has.
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Maybe Don Corleone here can tell us where he is instead of demonstrating how little brain matter he has.
Hello again moron, did I mention you're a fucking moron? Next please!
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i knowwhat u mean.. "ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE"
wait and see .. put your glasses on.. its goin' be cool. 8)
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Maybe Don Corleone here can tell us where he is instead of demonstrating how little brain matter he has.
Hello again moron, did I mention you're a fucking moron? Next please!
V.
If wishing it would make it true your dick would be bigger.
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Can't we just pass over all this now,. clearly Rambo has gone to bed so all this is a non-issue.
Where is OscarZulu? People seem to be forgetting he caused this and yet it seems to be the only thing nobody is addressing.
I don't want his death on my conscience.
I think it's more about OZ's conscience than yours to be fair (imo).
I think people are more mad/confused/aggressive/escalating etc. because some are still uncertain, or afraid if names get leaked...
that's why i say a statement of oz could be helpful. Not for me, but for this whole rather volatile thread and possible InnocentBankaccountGuy.
just my 0.0002 btc's...
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can't we all just get along ?
except you uncool people... tryna hurt others. but down the guns and fight like a man
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Maybe Don Corleone here can tell us where he is instead of demonstrating how little brain matter he has.
Hello again moron, did I mention you're a fucking moron? Next please!
V.
If wishing it would make it true your dick would be bigger.
Seriously? You're trying to mock the size of my penis? Grow up moron.
V.
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can't we all just get along ?
except you uncool people... tryna hurt others. but down the guns and fight like a man
And replace your firearms with feather dusters and dildos! Choose your thickness according to the width of your entry point! Take 10 paces! Dildos at the ready! FIRE!
Right I'm actually off for a bath now, you girls have fun.
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Maybe Don Corleone here can tell us where he is instead of demonstrating how little brain matter he has.
Hello again moron, did I mention you're a fucking moron? Next please!
V.
If wishing it would make it true your dick would be bigger.
Seriously? You're trying to mock the size of my penis? Grow up moron.
V.
Not trying mocking. And tell your other little friend to come out and take responsibility for his actions.
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can't we all just get along ?
except you uncool people... tryna hurt others. but down the guns and fight like a man
And replace your firearms with feather dusters and dildos! Choose your thickness according to the width of your entry point! Take 10 paces! Dildos at the ready! FIRE!
Right I'm actually off for a bath now, you girls have fun.
i'll take the single ladies.. perferabbly under 35 . and not them fukin truck drivers n shit ! lol
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Maybe Don Corleone here can tell us where he is instead of demonstrating how little brain matter he has.
Hello again moron, did I mention you're a fucking moron? Next please!
V.
If wishing it would make it true your dick would be bigger.
Seriously? You're trying to mock the size of my penis? Grow up moron.
V.
Not trying mocking. And tell your other little friend to come out and take responsibility for his actions.
I said trying moron because you were trying, do you see how that works?
As for your "suggestion" get fucked, I don't take orders from you.
If you enjoy being told to go fuck yourself because you're a moron (did I mention you're a moron?) please keep commenting.
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Whats next your are going to send your imaginary hitman after me too ?
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This Thread is far too off topic.
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TRILL SHIT ! 8)
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By the looks of it vlad1m1r must have some financial interests with Oscar he doesnt want to be disturbed.
I dont buy the whole innocent guy shit.
Also the gun you retard was to show you that I am not a 14 year bitch like you.
Where I am located you couldnt scratch my balls even if I let you.
Like I said to another guy I know some people that wouldnt mind to go and collect the 3k from Oscar.
Wasnt even being that serious at the time but fuck, now Ill just have to call them to meet your hitman.
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Lets going to ahead, Just say this, Seth if you threaten the guy, you pretty much fucked shit up. Seriously, thanks alot man, fuckin asshole. Secondly Vald, you know if Oscar goes down for scamming, its going to hurt your credibility for backing him up, with all this shit. I am not saying Oscar is a scammer at all, because frankly I dont know. What I do know is Vlad you can help people out on S.R that did give money by asking oscar, whats going on, and all that jazz and then some how figure away to prove that your posting on his behalf. Really lets stop talking about who has the bigger guns here. And lets figure out a way to fix this problem.
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By the looks of it vlad1m1r must have some financial interests with Oscar he doesnt want to be disturbed.
I dont buy the whole innocent guy shit.
Also the gun you retard was to show you that I am not a 14 year bitch like you.
Where I am located you couldnt scratch my balls even if I let you.
Like I said to another guy I know some people that wouldnt mind to go and collect the 3k from Oscar.
Wasnt even being that serious at the time but fuck, now Ill just have to call them to meet your hitman.
Seriously SETH SHUT THE FUCK UP. GOD DAMN EVERYONE IS GETTING TRIED OF THIS BULLSHIT, YOU DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE TO PISS EVERYONE OFF. YOU JUST DONT KNOW WHEN TOO STOP TYPING. SERIOUSLY MAN, IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYMORE INFO ABOUT THE TOPIC NO ONE WANTS TO READ ABOUT THIS HITMAN WAR THATS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A TOPIC ABOUT THAT DO IT IN ANOTHER THREAD CALLING OUT Vlad.
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I have alot of info on the topic. What do you want to know ?
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Why aren't the people Oscar "scammed" that you represent, aren't posting themselves.
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I have not received anything yet
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I represent noone.
Cap has posted repeatedly about his disbelieve.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=14134
pulpfiction I believe is the same person as Oscar because no one can be that naive.
The others I believe are just hoping Oscar will show up.
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Why aren't the people Oscar "scammed" that you represent, aren't posting themselves.
Because there's no evidence at this point that anyone has been scammed. It's only been days. Literally. Most people haven't even had two weeks yet. And even if it were all a massive scam, I can't think of anyone that elected that kid to speak in the first place. Unlike this kid seth, I actually am invested in this and I am perfectly fine. His mom clearly reads him too many Batman comics at bedtime and now he is running around the forum with a towel safety-pinned around his neck pretending to be a superhero. Sad.
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oscar was online.. send him a messge.. and stop waitin for a sign from GOD .
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I have not received anything yet
There we go, thanks tyler. for informing vaild info on the thread.I represent noone.
Cap has posted repeatedly about his disbelieve.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=14134
pulpfiction I believe is the same person as Oscar because no one can be that naive.
The others I believe are just hoping Oscar will show up.
Yea I read threw Caps post, before I know he in disblief, but thats your whole reason for going guns ablazing.
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I have not received anything yet
Honestly this is the only opinion anyone should be following. He is literally the only one who will have the authority to judge whether or not it is a scam. Followed by at least Cap. I'm way down the line, so my opinion regarding this is far removed from his. Not even a tracking number?
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I was told he already send Tyler the tracking.
They are being posted with tracking as we speak. Need Ty to get his before Tuesday as promised.
OZ
It just occurred to me that you have 2 degree boxes at your place that have arrived today.
A photo of those 2 boxes would definitely shut everyone up.
So you want me to suggest it in the threat? I think its a great idea. ;D
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I have not received anything yet
There we go, thanks tyler. for informing vaild info on the thread.I represent noone.
Cap has posted repeatedly about his disbelieve.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=14134
pulpfiction I believe is the same person as Oscar because no one can be that naive.
The others I believe are just hoping Oscar will show up.
Yea I read threw Caps post, before I know he in disblief, but thats your whole reason for going guns ablazing.
If Oscar's partner hadn't provoked me then this shit would not have happened.
At the end of the day if Oscar is legit then what does he have to be afraid of ?
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I have no tracking number or proof beyond an image of a database that in all fairness could be photo shopped in a matter of minutes.
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I have not received anything yet
There we go, thanks tyler. for informing vaild info on the thread.I represent noone.
Cap has posted repeatedly about his disbelieve.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=14134
pulpfiction I believe is the same person as Oscar because no one can be that naive.
The others I believe are just hoping Oscar will show up.
Yea I read threw Caps post, before I know he in disblief, but thats your whole reason for going guns ablazing.
If Oscar's partner hadn't provoked me then this shit would not have happened.
At the end of the day if Oscar is legit then what does he have to be afraid of ?
Provoked? ;D
Yeah, we all need to watch out or you might "bust a cap" in our asses, right?
Jesus Christ.
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@Tyl3rdurden
Oscar has been passing around your information as sample visual confirmation, so it wouldn't hurt to be little more careful than usual.
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I have not received anything yet
There we go, thanks tyler. for informing vaild info on the thread.I represent noone.
Cap has posted repeatedly about his disbelieve.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=14134
pulpfiction I believe is the same person as Oscar because no one can be that naive.
The others I believe are just hoping Oscar will show up.
Yea I read threw Caps post, before I know he in disblief, but thats your whole reason for going guns ablazing.
If Oscar's partner hadn't provoked me then this shit would not have happened.
At the end of the day if Oscar is legit then what does he have to be afraid of ?
Provoked? ;D
Yeah, we all need to watch out or you might "bust a cap" in our asses, right?
Jesus Christ.
Only you need to worry about your ass Oscar.
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The information given to him was little more than a random name and drop off address, the fact its been passed around concerns me. This is supposed to be a community of like minded people and if it has been undermined like this its a really big blow to what we are trying to achieve !
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I have not received anything yet
There we go, thanks tyler. for informing vaild info on the thread.I represent noone.
Cap has posted repeatedly about his disbelieve.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=14134
pulpfiction I believe is the same person as Oscar because no one can be that naive.
The others I believe are just hoping Oscar will show up.
Yea I read threw Caps post, before I know he in disblief, but thats your whole reason for going guns ablazing.
If Oscar's partner hadn't provoked me then this shit would not have happened.
At the end of the day if Oscar is legit then what does he have to be afraid of ?
Provoked? ;D
Yeah, we all need to watch out or you might "bust a cap" in our asses, right?
Jesus Christ.
Only you need to worry about your ass Oscar.
Again, not Oz.
Also - I'm growing more and more aware that you are obsessed with my ass, dude. Thanks for clarifying. If it helps your imagination for your "alone time" tonight, I wear boxers. And before you PM me asking about it, the abs are great, my eyes are hazel and yes it's huge.
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The fact that he can not be trusted with the information doesn't mean that even if this is legit, which I very much doubt, it would be completely pointless.
If this became public what would stop LE to simply contact Oscar for some "sample visual confirmations" and collect all of our names ?
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@Tyl3rdurden
Oscar has been passing around your information as sample visual confirmation, so it wouldn't hurt to be little more careful than usual.
WTF, really?! I thought Oscar was alright but after this he's gone from "Alright guy" to "Prick". What a fuck-up.
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I've been reading this thread, sifting through all the bullshit, and I must say, given that I had planned on buying a degree from this guy, the signs don't look great.
This can all be cleared up once and for all by cap or tyler today. He has unequivocally said that once the degrees are in transit (something to do with a scan?), their details will all be in the system and they can phone up to confirm them. Whether you've received a tracking number or not Tyler, he's said in the thread that your certificate is in transit.
If I were you, I'd call up as a prospective employer, looking to check references.
I implore one or both of you to check it ASAP (you can call from 9am, I presume), so we can put an end to the 40 pages of bullshit, loud mouthing and speculation that this thread has generated.
I really hope it's legit.
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@Tyl3rdurden
Oscar has been passing around your information as sample visual confirmation, so it wouldn't hurt to be little more careful than usual.
WTF, really?! I thought Oscar was alright but after this he's gone from "Alright guy" to "Prick". What a fuck-up.
Yeah, I have about 5 different people's names as visual confirmations.
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@Tyl3rdurden
Oscar has been passing around your information as sample visual confirmation, so it wouldn't hurt to be little more careful than usual.
WTF, really?! I thought Oscar was alright but after this he's gone from "Alright guy" to "Prick". What a fuck-up.
I have no idea what is going on tbh I ordered a fake degree in a random name and address with spare bitcoins I had, I saw it as an investment as if it worked I could help out a lot of friends. To think this address or name would incriminate me in any way is naive and dumb!
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So....just putting this out there did I call this thing or what?
@tyler LOL imagine just be a completely normal very straight edged person and just one day receiving a legitimate degree in your name stating that you have been attending oxford university for the last 4 years or so..biggest WTF moment ever
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I've been reading this thread, sifting through all the bullshit, and I must say, given that I had planned on buying a degree from this guy, the signs don't look great.
This can all be cleared up once and for all by cap or tyler today. He has unequivocally said that once the degrees are in transit (something to do with a scan?), their details will all be in the system and they can phone up to confirm them. Whether you've received a tracking number or not Tyler, he's said in the thread that your certificate is in transit.
If I were you, I'd call up as a prospective employer, looking to check references.
I implore one or both of you to check it ASAP (you can call from 9am, I presume), so we can put an end to the 40 pages of bullshit, loud mouthing and speculation that this thread has generated.
I really hope it's legit.
Pfft, who needs definite proof when we can have 50 more pages of vlad1m1r and steelseth trying to figure out who's manlier and threatening each other with violence on a public board, or steelseth's accusation that pulpfiction is oscar or pulpfiction's retorts that steelseth seems to be unnecessarily obsessed with his ass or.. no, that's all I got.
Your appeals for calm and reason won't work here, there's too much juicy drama to be had.
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So....just putting this out there did I call this thing or what?
who cares, we all knew the risks
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YO FUCK YOU SQL INJECTION, IMA POST A PICTURE OF A GUN IF YOU DON'T SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND TELL ME I'M RIGHT
something like that ^
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@Tyl3rdurden
Oscar has been passing around your information as sample visual confirmation, so it wouldn't hurt to be little more careful than usual.
WTF, really?! I thought Oscar was alright but after this he's gone from "Alright guy" to "Prick". What a fuck-up.
I have no idea what is going on tbh I ordered a fake degree in a random name and address with spare bitcoins I had, I saw it as an investment as if it worked I could help out a lot of friends. To think this address or name would incriminate me in any way is naive and dumb!
Yeah but it's the principle of it, it's just a snowball of fuck-ups.
And I am manliest here....there can be only one.....something......something.....Darkside.....
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I just want to make it clear I am probably the greatest mind of all time.
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YO FUCK YOU SQL INJECTION, IMA POST A PICTURE OF A GUN IF YOU DON'T SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND TELL ME I'M RIGHT
something like that ^
THE BOOOOOLD IS ON UR HANDS THEN
Edit: lol, someone just gave you a -1 karma for making a joke. Owned.
Edit2: Oh man, he got me too. STOP GIVING PEOPLE NEGATIVE KARMA BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN TO DISAGREE WITH YOU, STEELSETH, YOU DOUCHE.
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I just want to make it clear I am probably the greatest mind of all time.
Probably not
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YO FUCK YOU SQL INJECTION, IMA POST A PICTURE OF A GUN IF YOU DON'T SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND TELL ME I'M RIGHT
something like that ^
THE BOOOOOLD IS ON UR HANDS THEN
FUCK YOU
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YO FUCK YOU SQL INJECTION, IMA POST A PICTURE OF A GUN IF YOU DON'T SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND TELL ME I'M RIGHT
something like that ^
THE BOOOOOLD IS ON UR HANDS THEN
FUCK YOU
Ahahaha
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Did I spell that right ?
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YO FUCK YOU SQL INJECTION, IMA POST A PICTURE OF A GUN IF YOU DON'T SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND TELL ME I'M RIGHT
something like that ^
THE BOOOOOLD IS ON UR HANDS THEN
FUCK YOU
<3
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I just want to make it clear I am probably the greatest mind of all time.
Probably not
It's a fact, deal with it.
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I just want to make it clear I am probably the greatest mind of all time.
Probably not
It's a fact, deal with it.
Such statements mean nothing without even any justification lol
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@Tylerdurden, are you going to phone the university tomorrow?
If you give me the name and university (it seems like that information has been floating about already), I don't mind getting up at 9 and giving them a call myself.
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I just want to make it clear I am probably the greatest mind of all time.
Probably not
It's a fact, deal with it.
Such statements mean nothing without even any justification lol
When you reach the level of greatness that I have achieved justifying just becomes redundant. Blah blah blah, I am awesome is all I'm really trying to say.
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cba to phone any unis, if the certificate comes it comes. if not wev all been ripped off but that was a chance you was willing to take? correct?
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If you used a fake name as you said, then what's the problem with giving Banango the name and uni name so s/he can verify it?
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cba to phone any unis, if the certificate comes it comes. if not wev all been ripped off but that was a chance you was willing to take? correct?
The point being is that we can find out once and for all if it was a scam in 6 hours, and for those that actually bought degrees, I'm sure they'd like to find out sooner rather than later.
And I just offered to phone up for you, but fine.
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It's a scam. For sure... I just read the first post a couple minutes ago and skipped to the back to say this... OP seems like an idiot....sure he can spell but 100% for sure nothing legit about this piece of paper you are buying.
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cba to phone any unis, if the certificate comes it comes. if not wev all been ripped off but that was a chance you was willing to take? correct?
Precisely this. I knew it was a gamble. I also still have faith that he's going to pull through on this. And if something happens that for one reason or another this doesn't happen, well, I can't win at poker to save my fucking life so this isn't that different, really.
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I have thought out phoning up and I do not have a graduation year nor do I have any grades so I will be phoning up and they will ask what year I graduated and I will not be able to say. This will then probably go to a mess of trying to find me. Calling up is pointless
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I have thought out phoning up and I do not have a graduation year nor do I have any grades so I will be phoning up and they will ask what year I graduated and I will not be able to say. This will then probably go to a mess of trying to find me. Calling up is pointless
Didn't you specify a graduation year? When I spoke to OZ he said it was easier for him to put me in for this years graduation, 2012. And if they can't find you under that they can search by name.
The reason I said to call up as a prospective employer is that it's a lot less fishy if your info comes back as not in the system. It just indicates that you lied on your CV. And my voice is a female one (I presume you're male), so it's not like they're going to assume we're the same person.
But if you don't want to play, then I just hope Caparino is going to be a bit more helpful.
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Spending a single satoshi on this crap is pointless.. You could print out something similar... and only waste some printer ink and paper
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Steelseth sent me the screenshot, you supposedly graduated with a first, Tyler.
So I'm going to phone at around 9am, I'll let you all know the results ASAP.
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Also, it's worth mentioning that for Tyler's university, their Student IDs are 9 digits long, the Student ID on this visual proof is 11 digits.
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Also, it's worth mentioning that for Tyler's university, their Student IDs are 9 digits long, the Student ID on this visual proof is 11 digits.
How do you know that ?
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Also, it's worth mentioning that for Tyler's university, their Student IDs are 9 digits long, the Student ID on this visual proof is 11 digits.
How do you know that ?
I'm a genius.
Also, I know how to use a search engine.
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Also, it's worth mentioning that for Tyler's university, their Student IDs are 9 digits long, the Student ID on this visual proof is 11 digits.
How do you know that ?
I'm a genius.
Also, I know how to use a search engine.
Are you sure you have the right college genius ?
The only reference I find for student id length is a sample in a registration form and its 8 digits long not 9.
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Also, it's worth mentioning that for Tyler's university, their Student IDs are 9 digits long, the Student ID on this visual proof is 11 digits.
How do you know that ?
I'm a genius.
Also, I know how to use a search engine.
Are you sure you have the right college genius ?
The only reference I find for student id length is a sample in a registration form and its 8 digits long not 9.
You're right, it is 8 digits, I miscounted.
And it's not hard to find an image of the student ID card.
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My google must be broken :o
Only 1 result for this uni and not too reliable.
EDIT:
Please make all cheques payable to “University of Reading” and ensure that your 8-digit
Student ID is written on the reverse of the cheque.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:K8BRbD0J8dsJ:https://www.webpay.reading.ac.uk/studentpayments/documents/FAQ.pdf+&hl=en&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjJu82w48_Kqn2c9z_G_iwqCAFQ2JDmRcBU2yczj4TZUMAlvm9WEN5fwiaZu7XklgNtMTpZvth8akKiYaFl61Q5ebd4IraF32ukRWbnHGmw_wtVDkqMqKZlxqlUo3z39urMfY8D&sig=AHIEtbRwooXzLvUQok5trb-cOMaO_pn1ng
If you are a current University of Reading student please provide your 8 digit Student ID number (leave blank if not a current student):*
http://www.reading.ac.uk/studyabroad/outgoingstudents/requestinformation/outgoingrequestinformation.aspx
I will say its official, the student ID Oscar gave is 11 digits, the actual student ID its 8 digits.
Can I call him a scammer now ?
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People are still defending Oscar thinking he will come through with the goods?
Dont be stupid people, he has taken his earnings and ran with the loot, the whole thing seemed highly suspicious from the start, i sent Oscar a message asking if he could supply university degrees for New Zealand, funnily enough he said he could.
Now how likely is it that someone has access to these kind of databases from various countries in the world and the fact that these colleges have zero relationship to eachother, meaning he would have to have inside men in several locations around the world willing to compromise the database for a mere cut of 250 quid? Hell no, it aint happening.
I know some people live in a fairytale where noone gets ripped off and university degrees are acquired with bitcoin on silk road, but things are not looking good folks.
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Now where is that moron pulpfiction to tell us all how professional and hard working Oscar is.
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I have thought out phoning up and I do not have a graduation year nor do I have any grades so I will be phoning up and they will ask what year I graduated and I will not be able to say. This will then probably go to a mess of trying to find me. Calling up is pointless
Didn't you specify a graduation year? When I spoke to OZ he said it was easier for him to put me in for this years graduation, 2012. And if they can't find you under that they can search by name.
The reason I said to call up as a prospective employer is that it's a lot less fishy if your info comes back as not in the system. It just indicates that you lied on your CV. And my voice is a female one (I presume you're male), so it's not like they're going to assume we're the same person.
But if you don't want to play, then I just hope Caparino is going to be a bit more helpful.
its not that I dont want to be help full. For starters unis cannot just give out information to people ie employers, they have to follow procedures etc secondly this is a scam any ways. I cant see a shred of evidence otherwise, anybody who gave money to oscar after I said to wait until I confirmed it was genuine I have little sympathy for but I guess you live and learn!
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Steelseth for president and possibly for Gangster No. 1 (Sorry Lim)
If SS goes though with this, it'll serve as a lesson to anyone else who thinks about scamming here again. Also, I'll match the payment on the degree to see this carried out.
The blood is definitely on your hands now Vladmir, sorry you backed a scammer bruv.
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Steelseth for president and possibly for Gangster No. 1 (Sorry Lim)
If SS goes though with this, it'll serve as a lesson to anyone else who thinks about scamming here again. Also, I'll match the payment on the degree to see this carried out.
The blood is definitely on your hands now Vladmir, sorry you backed a scammer bruv.
I don't particularly approve of vlad1m1r's actions, but I know that I'm a fucking nobody so I've mostly kept out of the shitfest that this thread has become.
That being said, I had to reply to your comment just to make sure I got this right. So correct me if I'm wrong, you're saying that you approve of steelseth attacking (and possibly killing) an INNOCENT PERSON whose name was picked at random by vlad1m1r to facilitate opening an anonymous bank account? This is your idea of teaching scammers a lesson? How in the fucking world is that going to help ANYTHING. Jesus christ there's some major-league stupid in this thread.
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to catch the real scammer ? or to make sure this is carried out ? 8)
your being sincere ?
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I dont think vlad1m1r was telling the truth.
I think he was just trying to protect his friend.
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I dont think vlad1m1r was telling the truth.
I think he was just trying to protect his friend.
Now you're fixated on V as well? Just how many of us do you sit and think about at night, seth?
Slut.
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Steelseth for president and possibly for Gangster No. 1 (Sorry Lim)
If SS goes though with this, it'll serve as a lesson to anyone else who thinks about scamming here again. Also, I'll match the payment on the degree to see this carried out.
The blood is definitely on your hands now Vladmir, sorry you backed a scammer bruv.
I don't particularly approve of vlad1m1r's actions, but I know that I'm a fucking nobody so I've mostly kept out of the shitfest that this thread has become.
That being said, I had to reply to your comment just to make sure I got this right. So correct me if I'm wrong, you're saying that you approve of steelseth attacking (and possibly killing) an INNOCENT PERSON whose name was picked at random by vlad1m1r to facilitate opening an anonymous bank account? This is your idea of teaching scammers a lesson? How in the fucking world is that going to help ANYTHING. Jesus christ there's some major-league stupid in this thread.
Shut up oscar
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Is there any point in participating in this flame war when I've already said I'd check the reference in 4 hours?
And what procedures are you referring to Tyler?
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you all better let me in on these missing bitcoins.. after they demand action ! >:(
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Steelseth for president and possibly for Gangster No. 1 (Sorry Lim)
If SS goes though with this, it'll serve as a lesson to anyone else who thinks about scamming here again. Also, I'll match the payment on the degree to see this carried out.
The blood is definitely on your hands now Vladmir, sorry you backed a scammer bruv.
This is all getting a little out of hand, people. I have no interest in these degrees either way, but having been a member for quite some time I have a degree of trust in vlad1m1r and certainly respect his views and opinions. If vlad1m1r has OscarZuluLondon's real name and address, and he divulges it to any of you, his credibility, and therefore his business will be destroyed. Indeed, those of you demanding those details are flying in the face of all that the Silk Road stands for.
For those of you that have the details of some innocent third party whose name and address were picked out at random from an electoral register, I should hope, given the general good nature of members here, that you all have a little more decency than to get that person involved in this. This whole thread is bad news for SR, and bad karma for those involved in wanting to hurt this person. This is way out of control, and to those of you who sent money out of escrow to an anonymous person on the internet promising you the world, I cannot have sympathy for you. I empathise with you, but I cannot sympathise.
I've followed this thread from the beginning; Caparino, was it not your idea for a number of people to come together to purchase a sample degree, so that in the event that this was indeed a scam, you would all only be out of pocket a small amount? That seems to be the case now. Your initial idea was excellent, and I'm sure saved a number of people money. Those of you that sent money before waiting for confirmations from either Caparino or Tyler were foolish, given the clear warning signs that were presented (closing time-frame, constantly pushing back deadlines, etc.)
So you got scammed. Accept that, and use that experience to not be so easily parted from your money in the future.
Attempting to blackmail vlad1m1r into providing a name and address for you all by threatening an innocent person is an outrage, and you should all be ashamed of yourselves. You're acting like a mob hunting for a witch, but being unable to find one, you declare another to be a witch and burn them instead in order to sate your vicious bloodlust and your skewed views of justice. What have you all become?! When you joined this community you were supporting the rights of each and every one of us to be free without the threat of judge, jury or executioner. Now you have BECOME the judge, jury and executioner.
What madness is this?!
I hope you all realise the seriousness of what you are asking, and the consequences that it would inevitably have for ALL of us were these threats to be carried out.
And if you do indeed realise that, but continue lusting for blood regardless, then none of you involved deserve the freedom that we enjoy here. You'll have it, of course, but you won't deserve it.
The blood is on the hands of those who do the deed.
'Think', before you 'do'.
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I have never had a job that asked to see my diploma. I don't have a high tech specialized degree, just a Bachelor's degree. Never in any of my 3 jobs that had a "requirement" of a 4 yr degree did they ask to see it. They probably either called the school or just took my word for it.
I would just lie on a resume and see if you get away with it. A piece of paper is not going to help if they try to verify it. HR is going to call the School directly.
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There is no point in 'V' or anyone else to be sticking up for Oscar, you have nothing to gain by proving your loyalty to Oscar but you do have alot to lose if Oscar is found to be a scammer, even if its just people being a bit weary when doing business with you due to the fact that you would try and protect a somewhat obvious scammer (At first i thought there was a chance for this to be legit but seeing as he has stopped communication right when the tracking numbers where to be given raises a red flag).
The same thing is happening with the whole bitcoinica fiasco (if you are aware of it) with respected members of the community sticking up for the number one suspect (Zhou Tong) even though the evidence is painting the man guilty.
My advice is to stay out of such drama, even if Oscar was a long term business partner to any of you, it does not mean that he would not pull off such a scam on an anonymous marketplace, stranger things have happened.
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Essentially, what grahamgreene just said.
Caparino, you agreed to it. As did I. If I got ripped, I asked for it. So did you. Violence is the knee-jerk reaction of the lowest denominator, and it has no place in a community like this, in my opinion. Not that seth would actually do anything, but generally speaking, screaming for blood is weak and beneath me. The fact that it's blood of someone not related to this situation at all, in any way, is worse.
Your personal home address is floating around this board and you're offering to pay someone to kill an innocent man.
Seriously, take a deep breath and think this through. Is that really going to fix anything for you?
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Essentially, what grahamgreene just said.
Caparino, you agreed to it. As did I. If I got ripped, I asked for it. So did you. Violence is the knee-jerk reaction of the lowest denominator, and it has no place in a community like this, in my opinion. Not that seth would actually do anything, but generally speaking, screaming for blood is weak and beneath me. The fact that it's blood of someone not related to this situation at all, in any way, is worse.
Your personal home address is floating around this board and you're offering to pay someone to kill an innocent man.
Seriously, take a deep breath and think this through. Is that really going to fix anything for you?
You sound like the type of guy who would get dealt dud gear from a street vendor and say absolutely nothing, either that or you're protecting a man who has guilty written across his forehead.
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Wait, did I miss the bit where proof that OZ is a scammer emerged? Are we doing it on the fact that the Student ID was an incorrect length?
All of these things are red flags (the biggest one in the thread for me is where Marxist claimed his degree was from Yorkshire, and posted a picture of a degree from Scotland, which was somehow missed), but the only thing that's going to confirm or disprove it is word from the University itself, of which we're going to be able to obtain in a few hours anyway.
Tyler, I assume you're referring to the fact that employers are meant to provide proof of consent to the universities, however I doubt that they'd all comply to this. I'm just going to phone up, say "Hi, I'm calling from [Business Name], I'm trying to verify the degree reference provided by a job applicant", then give them the details (name, graduation year, award, course). If they say "sorry, we don't give that information out without proof of consent", I'll thank them for their time and tell them I'll email in a scan of the consent form. Tbh, I could probably knock one up fairly easily, but yeah.
Or Caparino could check themselves.
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Essentially, what grahamgreene just said.
Caparino, you agreed to it. As did I. If I got ripped, I asked for it. So did you. Violence is the knee-jerk reaction of the lowest denominator, and it has no place in a community like this, in my opinion. Not that seth would actually do anything, but generally speaking, screaming for blood is weak and beneath me. The fact that it's blood of someone not related to this situation at all, in any way, is worse.
Your personal home address is floating around this board and you're offering to pay someone to kill an innocent man.
Seriously, take a deep breath and think this through. Is that really going to fix anything for you?
You sound like the type of guy who would get dealt dud gear from a street vendor and say absolutely nothing, either that or you're protecting a man who has guilty written across his forehead.
I'm sorry, who are you? Why do I care what you're saying, again? I'm confused.
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Wait, did I miss the bit where proof that OZ is a scammer emerged? Are we doing it on the fact that the Student ID was an incorrect length?
All of these things are red flags (the biggest one in the thread for me is where Marxist claimed his degree was from Yorkshire, and posted a picture of a degree from Scotland, which was somehow missed), but the only thing that's going to confirm or disprove it is word from the University itself, of which we're going to be able to obtain in a few hours anyway.
Tyler, I assume you're referring to the fact that employers are meant to provide proof of consent to the universities, however I doubt that they'd all comply to this. I'm just going to phone up, say "Hi, I'm calling from [Business Name], I'm trying to verify the degree reference provided by a job applicant", then give them the details (name, graduation year, award, course). If they say "sorry, we don't give that information out without proof of consent", I'll thank them for their time and tell them I'll email in a scan of the consent form. Tbh, I could probably knock one up fairly easily, but yeah.
Or Caparino could check themselves.
You are very optimistic sir but dont let optimism blind you from the facts.
Oscar hasn't replied to anyone in days, right when the tracking numbers where to be released he disappears, all transactions were done out of escrow, Oscar was replying to new business a few days ago while not answering the questions from those who had already paid for there degrees.
Now, this is not solid evidence that would fly in a court of law but lets not overlook what is actually going on here people, the man is awol, hasnt been heard from in days.
So to answer your question, there is no 'proof' that Oscar has 100% scammed anyone, but its not looking very good at all.
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Essentially, what grahamgreene just said.
Caparino, you agreed to it. As did I. If I got ripped, I asked for it. So did you. Violence is the knee-jerk reaction of the lowest denominator, and it has no place in a community like this, in my opinion. Not that seth would actually do anything, but generally speaking, screaming for blood is weak and beneath me. The fact that it's blood of someone not related to this situation at all, in any way, is worse.
Your personal home address is floating around this board and you're offering to pay someone to kill an innocent man.
Seriously, take a deep breath and think this through. Is that really going to fix anything for you?
You sound like the type of guy who would get dealt dud gear from a street vendor and say absolutely nothing, either that or you're protecting a man who has guilty written across his forehead.
I'm sorry, who are you? Why do I care what you're saying, again? I'm confused.
You care what im saying because its the truth, you should lay off those pills that are confusing you, maybe it would be a little more obvious to you that its more than likely Oscar has taken the loot and ran.
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Wait, did I miss the bit where proof that OZ is a scammer emerged? Are we doing it on the fact that the Student ID was an incorrect length?
All of these things are red flags (the biggest one in the thread for me is where Marxist claimed his degree was from Yorkshire, and posted a picture of a degree from Scotland, which was somehow missed), but the only thing that's going to confirm or disprove it is word from the University itself, of which we're going to be able to obtain in a few hours anyway.
Tyler, I assume you're referring to the fact that employers are meant to provide proof of consent to the universities, however I doubt that they'd all comply to this. I'm just going to phone up, say "Hi, I'm calling from [Business Name], I'm trying to verify the degree reference provided by a job applicant", then give them the details (name, graduation year, award, course). If they say "sorry, we don't give that information out without proof of consent", I'll thank them for their time and tell them I'll email in a scan of the consent form. Tbh, I could probably knock one up fairly easily, but yeah.
Or Caparino could check themselves.
You are very optimistic sir but dont let optimism blind you from the facts.
Oscar hasn't replied to anyone in days, right when the tracking numbers where to be released he disappears, all transactions were done out of escrow, Oscar was replying to new business a few days ago while not answering the questions from those who had already paid for there degrees.
Now, this is not solid evidence that would fly in a court of law but lets not overlook what is actually going on here people, the man is awol, hasnt been heard from in days.
So to answer your question, there is no 'proof' that Oscar has 100% scammed anyone, but its not looking very good at all.
I love it when people who have no idea what's going on, are brand new, completely disconnected and have absolutely nothing invested in a situation jump in and start handing out advice like someone asked for it.
Just amazing.
Thanks ODB. Thank you so much for giving the advice that zero people asked for.
Banango, I agree. When we have proof, I'll acquiesce. Until then, I'm still not sweating it.
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Wait, did I miss the bit where proof that OZ is a scammer emerged? Are we doing it on the fact that the Student ID was an incorrect length?
All of these things are red flags (the biggest one in the thread for me is where Marxist claimed his degree was from Yorkshire, and posted a picture of a degree from Scotland, which was somehow missed), but the only thing that's going to confirm or disprove it is word from the University itself, of which we're going to be able to obtain in a few hours anyway.
Tyler, I assume you're referring to the fact that employers are meant to provide proof of consent to the universities, however I doubt that they'd all comply to this. I'm just going to phone up, say "Hi, I'm calling from [Business Name], I'm trying to verify the degree reference provided by a job applicant", then give them the details (name, graduation year, award, course). If they say "sorry, we don't give that information out without proof of consent", I'll thank them for their time and tell them I'll email in a scan of the consent form. Tbh, I could probably knock one up fairly easily, but yeah.
Or Caparino could check themselves.
You are very optimistic sir but dont let optimism blind you from the facts.
Oscar hasn't replied to anyone in days, right when the tracking numbers where to be released he disappears, all transactions were done out of escrow, Oscar was replying to new business a few days ago while not answering the questions from those who had already paid for there degrees.
Now, this is not solid evidence that would fly in a court of law but lets not overlook what is actually going on here people, the man is awol, hasnt been heard from in days.
So to answer your question, there is no 'proof' that Oscar has 100% scammed anyone, but its not looking very good at all.
If you read my posts, I'm not being optimistic at all. It's just there have been these "red flags" since the very start of this thread, I'm just confused as to why this particular one has caused those that chose to believe him to change their minds, suddenly.
And as I'll say for the last time, I'm willing to attempt to prove this in just over 3 hours.
Do you still want me to do this? @Caparino, you can phone up and ask for a copy of academic transcript. If you're going to do that I won't bother trying to confirm tyler's.
"What is it and how do I get it?
An Academic Transcript is a record detailing all of the courses taken, grades achieved, honours awarded and degrees conferred.
Past students: Please email us at studenthelp@reading.ac.uk, or telephone 0118 378 5555 with your request. "
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Sorry to hear about this sour situation, guys. Hopefully this will resolve itself and nobody gets hurt.
On a semi-related note...
I'd be willing to sell my college degree if anyone is interested.
It's a B.S. in neuroscience - neurobiology track.
Of course, we'd have to have the same name, but that's no big deal. :)
(This is a joke, of course.)
sdesu
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Wait, did I miss the bit where proof that OZ is a scammer emerged? Are we doing it on the fact that the Student ID was an incorrect length?
All of these things are red flags (the biggest one in the thread for me is where Marxist claimed his degree was from Yorkshire, and posted a picture of a degree from Scotland, which was somehow missed), but the only thing that's going to confirm or disprove it is word from the University itself, of which we're going to be able to obtain in a few hours anyway.
Tyler, I assume you're referring to the fact that employers are meant to provide proof of consent to the universities, however I doubt that they'd all comply to this. I'm just going to phone up, say "Hi, I'm calling from [Business Name], I'm trying to verify the degree reference provided by a job applicant", then give them the details (name, graduation year, award, course). If they say "sorry, we don't give that information out without proof of consent", I'll thank them for their time and tell them I'll email in a scan of the consent form. Tbh, I could probably knock one up fairly easily, but yeah.
Or Caparino could check themselves.
You are very optimistic sir but dont let optimism blind you from the facts.
Oscar hasn't replied to anyone in days, right when the tracking numbers where to be released he disappears, all transactions were done out of escrow, Oscar was replying to new business a few days ago while not answering the questions from those who had already paid for there degrees.
Now, this is not solid evidence that would fly in a court of law but lets not overlook what is actually going on here people, the man is awol, hasnt been heard from in days.
So to answer your question, there is no 'proof' that Oscar has 100% scammed anyone, but its not looking very good at all.
I love it when people who have no idea what's going on, are brand new, completely disconnected and have absolutely nothing invested in a situation jump in and start handing out advice like someone asked for it.
Just amazing.
Thanks ODB. Thank you so much for giving the advice that zero people asked for.
Banango, I agree. When we have proof, I'll acquiesce. Until then, I'm still not sweating it.
I know exactly whats going on, infact i know whats going on as much as you know whats going on, also who says im brand new? And if in fact i am brand new you should be ashamed that someone with 'such little experience' was able to school you on the telltale signs of a scammer who has got his cash then fled the scene.
And i seem to recall you asking for the proof that Oscar was guilty then i politely explained there is no solid proof hes guilty but its more than likely he is.
Until then, don't sweat it bro, im sure this reliable man will come through for you.
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They are all autidable, that's why I made the point above.
Your potential employer will be able to phone the University and ask whether you actually have that degree and they will confirm.
Prices depend on the University but for the best (Oxford & Cambridge Universities) about £750.00 / $1160 (130 Bitcoins) to the lesser ones (Reading University) about £250.00 / $390 (43 Bitcoins).
All the £750 degree's are first class, unless stated otherwise (if you actually aren't that good at something it may be a better idea to go for a 2:1 rather than a 1st!)
The names of Oxford & Cambridge graduates are published in PRINT, so hacking some database won't make it "auditable".
For example, if you can't find someone's name in the Cambridge University Reporter you know for certain they don't have a Cambridge degree:
http://search.cam.ac.uk/reporter?
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I can get degrees. From established Universitys all over the world. They come with full transcripts. Degrees are fake of course but very good copies with student numbers. Transcripts contain watermarks and are very convincing.
However obviously if anyone was to check the student number against Allumnis then it would show up as not listed. However most universities due to privacy concerns require written/signed consent before releasing that kind of private information. The copies are very good.
also available are MA and Doctorates. You specify your grade score and graduation date. Top Universities from Australia, New Zealand, UK, USA, Canada. (other countries also but I have to check which ones from Asia, Europe and Africa).
Also available are Thinsg like Diving licences (PADI), fishing licences, Student cards. (lots of good secondary ID) and Drivers licences (though the hollograms look shite there are better suppliers out there for these).
I need to start selling. I have been lurking around for awhile and cannot open a sellers account as yet.
(I still need to learn a few things before I start : Use and safety of Bitcoins, use of Escrow in practice, the PGP public Key block (I dont understand what this is for and need to learn before I can sell) I have a variety of products of real interest. Please link me with information that I need to open up a store.
Thanks.
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Essentially, what grahamgreene just said.
Caparino, you agreed to it. As did I. If I got ripped, I asked for it. So did you. Violence is the knee-jerk reaction of the lowest denominator, and it has no place in a community like this, in my opinion. Not that seth would actually do anything, but generally speaking, screaming for blood is weak and beneath me. The fact that it's blood of someone not related to this situation at all, in any way, is worse.
Your personal home address is floating around this board and you're offering to pay someone to kill an innocent man.
Seriously, take a deep breath and think this through. Is that really going to fix anything for you?
You sound like the type of guy who would get dealt dud gear from a street vendor and say absolutely nothing, either that or you're protecting a man who has guilty written across his forehead.
i remember a freind bought weed once. he weighed it and informed the dealer the dime bag was light. they beat him senseless. the whole point of this place is that current climate has made street drugs untenable for civilised people and so this is the elegant democratizing solution. you need to stop pretending to be tough and calling more reasonable enlightened people weak.
for instance the drugs business in europe is very violence free because the business hierarchy is often more like a co-operative than like macdonalds /petrol station franchises and because of this in europe even less liberal territories seem to interfere with drug dealers less.
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Okay so i've just read and updated myself on the goings on here and I have an amazing idea, why doesn't everyone calm the FUCK down, keep their tampons in and spark up a fat one. What is the need for violence, really guys?! Over some jumped up crackhead with a unrealistic looking gun and few hundred £ and a fake uni degree? Un-fucking-believable.
WHERE is the love these days. SR is meant to be a somewhat peaceful community you bomboclarts.
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Thats awesome. If they are 'real' and 'checkable' as you state that would sure beat the years of study to get a Masters or Doctorate. thats amazing, like a study Tardis. I was even considering paying some philippines guy peanuts to do all my online study for a masters, but who needs that if I can buy a real one. If I upgraded to a MA or Prof I might deserve a higher pay grade. Does that mean when a customer buys one it will arrive direct from the university (as their address would be needed for the university records). Can you have the date of completion varied to suit your needs? or must it be recent? Are they available on SR?
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Thats awesome. If they are 'real' and 'checkable' as you state that would sure beat the years of study to get a Masters or Doctorate. thats amazing, like a study Tardis. I was even considering paying some philippines guy peanuts to do all my online study for a masters, but who needs that if I can buy a real one. If I upgraded to a MA or Prof I might deserve a higher pay grade. Does that mean when a customer buys one it will arrive direct from the university (as their address would be needed for the university records). Can you have the date of completion varied to suit your needs? or must it be recent? Are they available on SR?
excellent question. direct from uni?
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I can't believe I'm about to waste the time, but I'm going to call in for the confirmation and I'll update you guys.
Edit: Oh look! They can't find my +2 extra number Student ID in the graduation database, nor my "surname". So there it is, Oscar's a scammer. What needs to be carried out, will. Stop posting here with further defense of ethics and viewpoints.
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I can't believe I'm about to waste the time, but I'm going to call in for the confirmation and I'll update you guys.
Edit: Oh look! They can't find my +2 extra number Student ID in the graduation database, nor my "surname". So there it is, Oscar's a scammer. What needs to be carried out, will. Stop posting here with further defense of ethics and viewpoints.
+1
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Can I say it now? ........
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I've been following this. The only mystery remaining and the only thing that kept this looking even somewhat viable all that time is that there has been no confirmation of the scam until just now. It's just strange that it took him almost two months from thread creation to steal anyone's money, although it's certainly easier to believe that than this dude having a covert worldwide network at this fingertips.
I can't and don't ever expect to see a service such as this offered in a public forum. It's probably doable in a variety of ways on a smaller scale but good luck ever coming across someone legitimately willing to do this in your lifetime, especially for absolute strangers.
Good job to the guy bitching throughout the thread, it would've been far too positive otherwise. Probably stopped at least a few people from getting taken.
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Reading back on the posts I missed last night someone has clearly taken up "V for Vendetta" too seriously.
I bet you get all dressed up with the mask and cape and shit. I bet you were wearing it last night too weren't you?
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I can't believe I'm about to waste the time, but I'm going to call in for the confirmation and I'll update you guys.
Edit: Oh look! They can't find my +2 extra number Student ID in the graduation database, nor my "surname". So there it is, Oscar's a scammer. What needs to be carried out, will. Stop posting here with further defense of ethics and viewpoints.
Repeating again, violence isn't an answer. Especially when your personal details are all over this thread now and anything that happens will come right back to the guy saying "I'll pay to make it happen". Big fucking deal I'm out 600 USD. You got burned, get over it. Sitting in a pile of your own shit and crying about it won't fix anything.
Sucks though. Oz, you definitely were a letdown.
Shut up oscar
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Cap, if it makes you feel any better, we still <3 you for trying :)
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steelseth are you out of your mind?! You're putting an INNOCENT man's name and address up here. What the hell are you thinking?!?! If nothing else, this will give Silk Road incredibly bad press, not to mention potentially unthinkable implications for a completely uninvolved man.
This is outrageous.
You are a fool of the highest order. Not only have you got NO interest in this, nor have you lost any money, but you have no moral or social compass to guide your actions.
This will not end well.. For any of us.
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WOW
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Wow you all need to fucking chill with the private info, way to break the cardinal rule guys.
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steelseth are you out of your mind?! You're putting an INNOCENT man's name and address up here. What the hell are you thinking?!?! If nothing else, this will give Silk Road incredibly bad press, not to mention potentially unthinkable implications for a completely uninvolved man.
This is outrageous.
You are a fool of the highest order. Not only have you got NO interest in this, nor have you lost any money, but you have no moral or social compass to guide your actions.
This will not end well.. For any of us.
Oscar is not innocent, Vlad is not innocent, plus Vlad said he will pay for the innocent mans protection.
I see no problem.
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Vlad, is that you ? Why are you upset mate ?
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If you are going to start deleting posts, you might as well delete the whole thing.
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Oscar is not innocent, Vlad is not innocent, plus Vlad said he will pay for the innocent mans protection.
I see no problem.
No, Oscar is not innocent. It would seem he scammed a number of people despite Caparino devising a plan to limit any potential scam damage. Caparino, that was YOUR idea. It seems to have worked for those of you who put a minimal amount in. Leave it at that, perhaps, as was the intention in the beginning?
vlad1m1r is innocent, however. He conducts business with criminals, which by current laws means most of us. It is not HIS fault when that criminal commits a crime. It seems that Oscar used this man's name and address for a purpose other than the one intended by vlad1m1r. It is not right, or just, to punish an innocent for something he had no part in. Why should an innocent man NEED protection? He is INNOCENT. You don't seem to be able to see the difference between justice and thuggery.
I'm all for the actual scammer being brought to justice before his peers, but I cannot condone harming an innocent man in order to get to that person. 'Think' before you 'do', steelseth.
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Wow you all need to fucking chill with the private info, way to break the cardinal rule guys.
This, for sure.
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I have no reason to believe the address I have is not Oscar's.
Infact after Vlads reaction to me posting his work place a few minutes ago, I am pretty sure every single word he said is bullshit.
Oscar is not innocent, Vlad is not innocent, plus Vlad said he will pay for the innocent mans protection.
I see no problem.
No, Oscar is not innocent. It would seem he scammed a number of people despite Caparino devising a plan to limit any potential scam damage. Caparino, that was YOUR idea. It seems to have worked for those of you who put a minimal amount in. Leave it at that, perhaps, as was the intention in the beginning?
vlad1m1r is innocent, however. He conducts business with criminals, which by current laws means most of us. It is not HIS fault when that criminal commits a crime. It seems that Oscar used this man's name and address for a purpose other than the one intended by vlad1m1r. It is not right, or just, to punish an innocent for something he had no part in. Why should an innocent man NEED protection? He is INNOCENT. You don't seem to be able to see the difference between justice and thuggery.
I'm all for the actual scammer being brought to justice before his peers, but I cannot condone harming an innocent man in order to get to that person. 'Think' before you 'do', steelseth.