Quote from: Loyal1 on September 11, 2012, 01:55 amShame on you people saying that's what you get. You know that mother fucker stole his money. Even if he was stupid and trusted or went behind SR fees however small it was, does not mean it's OK to steal someones hard earned money. The road is for honest trade of items NOT FOR FUCKING EACH OTHER. You all really need to get off these sellers dicks and speak the truth would you like it if someone stole all your money. markgorge2012 did wrong but really people. To make a mockery of the road is going against what we are trying to do here ...Fucking Scammers, everyday someone is scammed here. When is enough Enough Oh and if it wasn't clear fuck you PILL poperrz (give that man back his money you bitch)The OP has no proof that PILL popperz scammed him. Read my post on page 5 in it's entirety to see why.Quote from: markgorge2012 on September 11, 2012, 02:15 amMERE ACCUSATIONS? wtf you talking about, you think ide be on here? and waste my fucking time. Fucking thieves should get fucked. Fuck if im getting fucked hard, wtf do i care if he does or anyone involved in his shit.Yes, mere accusations. You have no proof. Read my post on page 5 in it's entirety to see why. Quote from: blowdrobro on September 11, 2012, 03:37 amDamn guys, I think the guy at least deserves a reply from PP. I work out of escrow all the time (mostly CIM, never WU though), and I know the risks. Now I wouldn't expect SR to do ANYTHING because you're by-passing their system. Nevertheless, I think Mark should post here; if nothing else this will server as a cautionary tale for other users thinking of working with PP outside of escrow. The fact that PP has failed to even respond to the allegations is suspicious. Especially considering other users, including myself, have linked him this thread via SR main.PILL popperz is under no obligation to respond to these accusations. I sincerely hope your CIM transactions are taking place somewhere other than SR?PILL popperz not responding to the accusation of an out of escrow scam is not suspicious in itself; they run a very successful, entirely reputable business on Silk Road. This "markgorge2012" has no reputation, and no history here. If I were PILL popperz, I would likely neglect to respond to this person whether his claims are true or not.The issue is not a Silk Road issue; the issue is a person sending a Western Union transfer for a large amount of money to a random person with no comeback should any problems arise. It has no place on the Silk Road forums as Out Of Escrow transactions are not allowed on Silk Road, therefore nobody needs to be warned not to do Out Of Escrow transactions with any vendor. The rules are in place to protect the buyer, protect the seller, and earn Silk Road a commission. Why break those rules to save a few dollars?In the OP's case the cost of sending Western Union transfers would actually be greater than the commission charged by Silk Road. That is why this entire scenario doesn't make sense. He chose to abandon the safety of the escrow system, and pay more for the privilege of doing so?! That doesn't make any sense. ???Quote from: Methadonia on September 11, 2012, 03:59 amThe biggest problem I have with a vendor who is capable of this, is not the fact I think he'll then scam everyone who does it, is the fact the guy was reckless enough to shit where he eats. It's a stupid and short sighted person who pulls a stunt like this and expects it not to cause waves.There is no proof that any of this has taken place; in fact, there is more evidence that it didn't than it did. My post on page 5 explains all of this.- grahamgreene