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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: mastic on August 01, 2012, 01:29 pm

Title: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: mastic on August 01, 2012, 01:29 pm
Hello,

I will be completly honest like i always be!
Why i would start doing shit for 5gr of Hash after 110 orders without any problems !! (2000+ btc spent) and member since 14 months!

DUTCHSHOP didn't reply to my message in 48h so i decide to Finalize to see if he reacts about my message.

Now he put me on a SCAMMER list, and send several message to vendor to tell i'm scamming lol, and the very big problem is:

Dutchshop KEEPS TRACE OF ALL THE BUYER'S ADRESS SINCE THE BEGINNING!!!
This guy TOLD ME in a message that the ADRESS used to buy my LAST ORDER was the SAME ADRESS as 8 MONTHS AGO!!!!
HOW CAN HE REMEMBER THIS ADRESS after doing THOUSANDS OF SHIPMENTS !!!

THIS IS A HUGE SECURITY FLAW!!!

I have the message to prove this in my mailbox, SR please come to see this.

BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS GUY!!! Now i'm AFRAID !

I did hope i would never encounter this kind of situation :(
Title: Re: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: Hauau on August 01, 2012, 01:36 pm
DUTCHSHOP didn't reply to my message in 48h so i decide to Finalize to see if he reacts about my message.
Smart move, man! ;D

Anyway, not deleting customers addresses cannot be tolerated. Try to write to SR admins, they should definitely check it out.
Title: Re: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: mastic on August 01, 2012, 01:54 pm
All the proof has been sent to SR Admins

When i was one of his first customer i felt something strange, the packaging with chlorine seemed too much and his questions too.

Now i better understand how this guy is paranoid, keeping statistics of all the adresses.

A nightmare for me because i used 3 different adresses and this guy tell me in his last message how big the cities i used to received was and better the cities are big for having the shipment without problems. This is just incredible to give this kind of informations after months !!! big memory isn't it

This guy smokes too much i think before sending his shipments.

Never i will do business again with him, or maybe i will never ever do business with SR if i have the police in my house.

But i do this to protect SR users first.

God be with me :(
Title: Re: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: 12345 on August 01, 2012, 04:41 pm
All the proof has been sent to SR Admins

When i was one of his first customer i felt something strange, the packaging with chlorine seemed too much and his questions too.

Now i better understand how this guy is paranoid, keeping statistics of all the adresses.

A nightmare for me because i used 3 different adresses and this guy tell me in his last message how big the cities i used to received was and better the cities are big for having the shipment without problems. This is just incredible to give this kind of informations after months !!! big memory isn't it

This guy smokes too much i think before sending his shipments.

Never i will do business again with him, or maybe i will never ever do business with SR if i have the police in my house.

But i do this to protect SR users first.

God be with me :(

you sound a bit para, too, m8.

But it is not good to keep the addresses of customers. It is a "NoNO" and part of the game of anonymity ordering.
Title: Re: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: mastic on August 01, 2012, 08:22 pm
you sound a bit para, too, m8.

But it is not good to keep the addresses of customers. It is a "NoNO" and part of the game of anonymity ordering.

I have nothing about him he has 3 adresses, one of me two of friends and i should shut my mouth ?
Title: Re: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: dutchshop on August 03, 2012, 02:11 am
I reply on this message because the information in this topic or subject is that i save personal details about my customers is INVALID ,WRONG..ETC.

I remember the person here order from my in the past and i lost one of the 2 shipments to his country.One was to a big city and the other one to a small city and i remember this because the customer ask a Lott of questions about the process time ,package and other stuff so if you have a long conservation with somebody then you will remember some details (custom order what means different price or amount then the regular listed items in your head that's all.

i don't save personal information about my customers (adress...etc) "BECAUSE THIS IS A NO GO NO AREA FOR ME AND ALSO FOR OTHER VENDORS "and i remember my trusted customers by there nicknames only in my head.
And beside that if i do refunds or regular customers then yes i remember them also in my memory.
this is very simple if you communicated all the time with your customers then in the process you will remember something specifies about them.
there behavior or there way of sending messages in a pm so like i said i don't keep physic or digital information about my customers.

Hope that i explained my self in this.

Greets DS,
Title: Re: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: googleyed1 on August 03, 2012, 02:38 am
it makes no sense for a vendor to keep addresses for 8 months, we'd have a full harddrive of address :D
Title: Re: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: YouWillNeverKnow on August 03, 2012, 03:23 am
it makes no sense for a vendor to keep addresses for 8 months, we'd have a full harddrive of address :D
Lmao. Or a few servers in some people's *cough* google *cough* cases. :-D
Title: Re: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: 12345 on August 03, 2012, 10:08 am
I reply on this message because the information in this topic or subject is that i save personal details about my customers is INVALID ,WRONG..ETC.

I remember the person here order from my in the past and i lost one of the 2 shipments to his country.One was to a big city and the other one to a small city and i remember this because the customer ask a Lott of questions about the process time ,package and other stuff so if you have a long conservation with somebody then you will remember some details (custom order what means different price or amount then the regular listed items in your head that's all.

i don't save personal information about my customers (adress...etc) "BECAUSE THIS IS A NO GO NO AREA FOR ME AND ALSO FOR OTHER VENDORS "and i remember my trusted customers by there nicknames only in my head.
And beside that if i do refunds or regular customers then yes i remember them also in my memory.
this is very simple if you communicated all the time with your customers then in the process you will remember something specifies about them.
there behavior or there way of sending messages in a pm so like i said i don't keep physic or digital information about my customers.

Hope that i explained my self in this.

Greets DS,

1+

thanks for clearing up, sir.
Title: Re: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: Ahoyhoy on August 03, 2012, 12:06 pm
Hello,

I will be completly honest like i always be!
Why i would start doing shit for 5gr of Hash after 110 orders without any problems !! (2000+ btc spent) and member since 14 months!

DUTCHSHOP didn't reply to my message in 48h so i decide to Finalize to see if he reacts about my message.

Now he put me on a SCAMMER list, and send several message to vendor to tell i'm scamming lol, and the very big problem is:

Dutchshop KEEPS TRACE OF ALL THE BUYER'S ADRESS SINCE THE BEGINNING!!!
This guy TOLD ME in a message that the ADRESS used to buy my LAST ORDER was the SAME ADRESS as 8 MONTHS AGO!!!!
HOW CAN HE REMEMBER THIS ADRESS after doing THOUSANDS OF SHIPMENTS !!!

THIS IS A HUGE SECURITY FLAW!!!

I have the message to prove this in my mailbox, SR please come to see this.

BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS GUY!!! Now i'm AFRAID !

I did hope i would never encounter this kind of situation :(


Thanks for the heads up. +1
Title: Re: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: djrob6969 on August 05, 2012, 01:38 pm
Hello,

I will be completly honest like i always be!
Why i would start doing shit for 5gr of Hash after 110 orders without any problems !! (2000+ btc spent) and member since 14 months!

DUTCHSHOP didn't reply to my message in 48h so i decide to Finalize to see if he reacts about my message.

Now he put me on a SCAMMER list, and send several message to vendor to tell i'm scamming lol, and the very big problem is:

Dutchshop KEEPS TRACE OF ALL THE BUYER'S ADRESS SINCE THE BEGINNING!!!
This guy TOLD ME in a message that the ADRESS used to buy my LAST ORDER was the SAME ADRESS as 8 MONTHS AGO!!!!
HOW CAN HE REMEMBER THIS ADRESS after doing THOUSANDS OF SHIPMENTS !!!

THIS IS A HUGE SECURITY FLAW!!!

I have the message to prove this in my mailbox, SR please come to see this.

BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS GUY!!! Now i'm AFRAID !

I did hope i would never encounter this kind of situation :(


BULLSHIT RADAR ON

"DUTCHSHOP didn't reply to my message in 48h so i decide to Finalize to see if he reacts about my message."

HELLOOO??? Why the fuck would you FE for someone who isn't responding to your messages???

let's break this down into simple English.... I place an order - I message the vendor - 48 hours passes and I haven't heard back from vendor (maybe vendor doesn't work on weekends or is away for a day or 2) - I then think to myself... how can I get the vendors attention to make sure I get my fix right away? GOTTIT... I'll FINALIZE EARLY... 

pleazzzzze tell me you're joking?

Title: Re: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: Addy on August 05, 2012, 03:53 pm
it makes no sense for a vendor to keep addresses for 8 months, we'd have a full harddrive of address :D
Plenty of reasons for vendors to store buyers' addresses. I'm certain there are vendors that do so, and it looks like the OP's vendor might.

Utterly stupid of a vendor to admit to it, though.

Can you provide any evidence that the vendor keeps addresses, mastic? Screenshot or something?
Title: Re: DutchShop SECURITY FLAW!! DANGEROUS!!
Post by: Jump3r on August 06, 2012, 03:51 pm
finalizing for an not responding vendor (in reason that he respond)  is one of the most dump things i ever heard xD
lulz