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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 01:38 am

Title: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 01:38 am
Ahoy,

In the spirit of the Dread Pirate Roberts, when one leaves the next takes his place.  I am an an old member of both SR and this forum, but for security I have created a new account.  I don't think there will be time to go through the 50 post limit, so I am posting this here.  I would thank any members for re-posting around the forum.

I am in the midst of setting up a new server infrastructure and forum to take this ones place if it gets taken down.  The new forum will be modeled after this one, and also include a market place section where members can both buy and sell.

This will be securely hosted, and ever precaution is being taken to avoid the downfall of the original SR.  I will also be coding a new market from scratch, though it will take several days.

Our unity gives us strength, lets not let them take it from us.

I will have more info shortly.

Forum is now live at http://blackiiw5nozs6i5.onion

-Dread Pirate Roberts
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 02:13 am
Reserved.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ProfessorGreen on October 03, 2013, 02:14 am
interesting
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ProfessorGreen on October 03, 2013, 02:18 am
How will you get the word out?

Seems to be a lot of talk of the forums going down within the next day or two.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Mcrad on October 03, 2013, 02:21 am
How will you inform people.

I like the idea though

Much love_mcrad!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 02:22 am
Will post an onion url within the hour.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: PsychedelicSphere on October 03, 2013, 02:26 am
Sounds good, but I think you should leave DPR's name out of it.

Coin something new for yourself.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 02:30 am
Sounds good, but I think you should leave DPR's name out of it.

Coin something new for yourself.
Its in the spirit of DPR that I would take on the name.  I still deliberately distinguish myself from the original DPR.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ilovethecolour on October 03, 2013, 02:32 am
Sounds good, if your not an FBI agent

hahahaha
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: morphing123 on October 03, 2013, 02:33 am
Sounds interesting, keep us updated,

Thanks morphing
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ThisThatShit on October 03, 2013, 02:36 am
Also interesting, will be looking out for that url. Good luck!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Cailieg on October 03, 2013, 02:44 am
Good luck to you, will watch for the link.

Cheers
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: jakeyblues1987 on October 03, 2013, 02:44 am
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Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 02:54 am
I am still setting up the server, but I have the domain generated: http://blackiiw5nozs6i5.onion

Please note that it does not yet load, but it WILL be with in the next day.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ProfessorGreen on October 03, 2013, 02:59 am
Nice one mate

United we stand!

Will see you there in a day or two, big ups to you for stepping up to the plate.

If you are the F B            IIIIIII then just PM me now and we can avoid the wait. : P

Thanks!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: pinkkitty on October 03, 2013, 03:00 am
This is good news!  The fight must go on!  We cannot give up and let our rights be taken!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Mcrad on October 03, 2013, 03:08 am
Do you have a name for the site yet?

Much love_mcrad!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: NeoLex on October 03, 2013, 03:13 am
Vendors?
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 03:15 am
Do you have a name for the site yet?

Much love_mcrad!
Project: Black Flag, or just Black Flag for short.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 03:18 am
Vendors?
Will be giving free vender status to all SR venders.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: NeoLex on October 03, 2013, 03:20 am
I might be thinking of becoming a vendor  how much as I wasn't before ?
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: pinkkitty on October 03, 2013, 03:24 am
Idk if all vendors are going to want to tell you they were vendors on SR... It could put them at risk...
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Mcrad on October 03, 2013, 03:24 am
Black flag

Cool I'm excited:)

Much love_mcrad
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 03:25 am
I might be thinking of becoming a vendor  how much as I wasn't before ?
It will be free until the market grows.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: NeoLex on October 03, 2013, 03:27 am
Yes Black flag!
WE WONT GIVE UP :)
We wont back down
We will fight!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: DudeAbider on October 03, 2013, 03:32 am
Glad you're stepping up!  Stay safe and good luck!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ThisThatShit on October 03, 2013, 03:34 am
Let's get it
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ProfessorGreen on October 03, 2013, 03:49 am
nice one

will be signing myself up for sure!!

good work mettaDPR, if theres anything I can help out with feel free to let me know.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 03:50 am
StExo has uploaded a backup of the server.  I will be going through it by hand to ensure it has not been compromised, then I may implement it.

Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: youlikebarney on October 03, 2013, 03:56 am
Why is no one being skeptical? Can you not give us any proof? It seems pretty entertaining to log on and pretend you're the new DPR. Hell I'd probably do it if I had thought of it first. Can you get another Hero Member that's active right now to verify?
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: fiveotwo on October 03, 2013, 04:39 am
I'm skeptical but interested, I'll be following you closely.  I agree with the sentiment you shouldn't take over the moniker DPR, it's too soon as of yet.  As of now, I have no reason to trust your site an ounce.  In the sake of conspiracy I'm going to guess you might be StExo, who I see to be technologically knowledgeable, a businessman at heart, and heavily invested in the black market.  Plus he's the almost the definition of "an an old member of both SR and this forum"
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: bouclelan on October 03, 2013, 04:48 am
A couple senior members to endorse he is who he says he is will be good!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: polyphemusperception on October 03, 2013, 04:50 am
sub
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: FuckLE on October 03, 2013, 04:57 am
Will put coding knowledge into this if necessary.  It's so hard to trust people though.  Hell, I don't even know how to create a .onion site.  I do know though, that there is a huge gap left in place of these latest events.  And I know that supply meets demand, so someone will take the position.  Good luck, mettaDPR.  (I'm super-surprised nobody took this name, too...are you all agents?!)
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Boobonicchronic on October 03, 2013, 05:10 am
Anyone going to vouch for this guy? Really hoping this is a legit plan B! At this point it is and will simply be an idea unless you can get OLD members, trusted vets to stand behind you... otherwise you simply have a dream and you know what happened to the last guy who had a dream. Look your plan looks great but at this point we all need TRUST! LE could post 10 of these or could already have BMR in pocket waiting for everyone to migrate... point blank you need someone to say you are who you say you are!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: bouclelan on October 03, 2013, 05:54 am
One thing to consider when weighing up the chances of lE doing a honeypot site is what can they really get out of it, just records of what is sent where without names or addresses, just usernames and self declared countries. As long as pgp is used at best the information is good for helping to identify people from RL by cross referencing information.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: derpfacescenario on October 03, 2013, 06:00 am
yo fuck DPR and his dumb ass hate to say it but he did some of the most newbiest moves ever. My team and I are working on a new site currently as well. Maybe we can do something together? I was thinking we should call it high life lulz.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: OzAlpha on October 03, 2013, 06:03 am
High Life would be a pretty awesome name :P

Subbed btw.. hoping Australians have a good choice (or choices) of places to buy from after this - a place that won't be shut down, but all of those BTC's just.. gone, probably re-funding the US job cuts right now.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Boobonicchronic on October 03, 2013, 06:06 am
Nice hi-jack! Anyways back to Op. Black Flag... lets see some Sr. Members come forth!!!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: derpfacescenario on October 03, 2013, 06:08 am
yeah I got it from a daft punk song and I thought it rang the bell pretty well. Metta IBM and we can probably work something out. ;) also from that URL I figure ur a fellow anon. You an anon brahh?
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ThisThatShit on October 03, 2013, 06:22 am
" he did some of the most newbiest moves ever" LMAO!! Yea he did bro, he fucked up.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: derpfacescenario on October 03, 2013, 06:30 am
bro only 1 email I have has my name in it and my mom's made that when I was 8 hahaha I don't even use that bitch anymore and the address doesn't got my full name, I understood anonymity from a young age. -DFS
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ThisThatShit on October 03, 2013, 06:39 am
Yea I never use my real name for any email. DPR must have been on some kind of psychedelic when he made that dumb move, now look, he fucked alot of peoples money up, I lost 1300$ shit, but I'ma start using only what I need on BMR, and sheep, I'm not leaving shit in my wallet.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: derpfacescenario on October 03, 2013, 06:49 am
yeah I doubt he uses or it would of been in the report that they found drugs. -DFS
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on October 03, 2013, 06:59 am
subb'd
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: GHTrippin on October 03, 2013, 07:04 am
If someone, or some group of savvy individuals were to put together a newer, better version of the Road, with redundancies and safeguards in place that would avoid a situation like DPR and others have gotten into AND would be located in a country with no extradition (similar structure to what some of the popular torrent sites that are still around do) I'd be willing to invest coin in doing do and give any kind of support, as i'm sure others would too.

Long live freedom and FUCK LE and especially the useless DEA.

Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: derpfacescenario on October 03, 2013, 07:13 am
^ yeah that is the plan to have safeguards in place to run it like the real DPR that if one is gone another DPR is replaced this is actually how I thought DPR was running it so I didn't even bother to make a site to compete with SR but since it's down........  I was thinking of making it like a democracy that we can vote in the congress/house of commons but the headmasters will always stay the same for extra safety that way we can do what the people want. -DFS
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Pusci on October 03, 2013, 07:52 am
subbd
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: jacejace723 on October 03, 2013, 08:43 am
KINGOFCARDS r u there?

please give me contact info or if anyone knows how i can contact him please let me know

james723723 here, made an order n need to know if its getting sent n also need to make more orders

Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: OzAlpha on October 03, 2013, 09:34 am
If you guys ever need a helping hand I'm more than happy to do so where possible - something tells me I'm not as skilled as most of you but hey, I'll help where I can :) It's for the greater good after all, for all of us.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Phillippa Hole on October 03, 2013, 12:41 pm
Will be keeping my eye on the OP's new site. Failing that I guess I will see y'all over at Sheep Marketplace.

This isn't the last of SR, don't believe it for a second. The war on drugs is being won.....by us! Chins up  ;)
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: gman00 on October 03, 2013, 12:55 pm
subbed
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: druglizard on October 03, 2013, 01:42 pm
I am actually working on a new (tor hidden) site too. But I plan to release the full source code, for collaboration and peer-review on github (of the fully legal bitcoin marketplace software which will be used to run the server).  I started working on it some time back, but will rewrite most parts from scratch for security reasons. I have a server infrastructure where I am able to host the site.

I was active on the old sr too, and in the forum. but changed to a new username now because user data is most likely in the hands of the feds.  I will update here again (unless the 50 post rule gets removed).

Github link, detailed plan of implementation and onion address will follow soon:

EDIT: Github is up and running https://github.com/druglizard/grand-bazaar   (keep things legal there, this is just the market software, and access only over TOR)

Site will be here: http://bazaar3lm7zquskq.onion
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Cailieg on October 03, 2013, 01:59 pm
Well I will certainly be watching this one.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Gridlokk on October 03, 2013, 02:06 pm
subbed
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Ninja92 on October 03, 2013, 02:19 pm
sub
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: SativaSally on October 03, 2013, 03:06 pm
SUB
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: druglizard on October 03, 2013, 03:12 pm
Anyone interested in helping, please contribute at: https://github.com/druglizard/grand-bazaar
I am sure with some community effort we can get the site running within a few weeks, and have a better site than SR (and certainly better than Sheep and the others.)
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on October 03, 2013, 03:21 pm
subscribers!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: barslover on October 03, 2013, 03:32 pm
interesting, will forum be up before market platform or do you intend to release it all same day?
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: l00py on October 03, 2013, 03:41 pm
Don't rush on creating it, make sure all security precautions are put into place first.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: rogerjolly on October 03, 2013, 05:35 pm
At an absolute minimum, the new market will need to be designed with Kerchoff's principle in mind - even if entire server(s) and source code are seized or compromised, nothing major must be retrievable without knowing the private keys of the admin or individuals users.

In the NSA, there is a design philosophy that for every gadget X, the very first production copy gets sent straight to Kremlin.

I'm thinking that supplying a PGP key should be a mandatory piece of registration info for PMs (unless the user doesn't want access to PMs).  That way, if a user messages a vendor or another user, the message gets encrypted with their public key before being sent (preferably the user would do it themselves before it going out on the wire).  The recipient will get a bunch of ASCII gibberish that they can then decrypt to get the real message.  PITA for sure, but the fallout from SR seizure would've been FAR, FAR, FAR less if user communications weren't stored and sent in cleartext.

If you look at the affidavit, the feds would've had practically nothing on DPR except the fake IDs if the seized server image didn't spill all the beans.  That's why I'm not too keen on SM or BMR right now.  Redesigning security infrastructure like this takes weeks, if not months - and that's if you have developers well-versed in security.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 05:40 pm
interesting, will forum be up before market platform or do you intend to release it all same day?
Forum will be up first, which people can make deals on, then the market once its coded.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 07:36 pm
Forum now live at new url: http://blackiiw5nozs6i5.onion
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Cailieg on October 03, 2013, 07:42 pm
This could be interesting if the forum is secure.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Ninja92 on October 03, 2013, 07:47 pm
Do forums have to be secure at all? is it not protected under freedom of speech technically?
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 07:50 pm
Every measure is being taken for utmost security.  I physically posses the machine, and have employed full HDD encryption among other things.

Black Flag lets you make trades directly on the forum, so it functions as a market until the new Silk Road is coded.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Cailieg on October 03, 2013, 08:03 pm
Which is why I asked, I remembered you mentioning the trade section.

Thanks mettaDPR.

Cheers
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 03, 2013, 08:26 pm
Market place is ready, just need some venders to start offering products. :)
Title: pepinamil seller of cocaine
Post by: pepinamil-now on October 03, 2013, 09:04 pm
hi please
all my clients
communicate to my email
burdeodogo@gmail.com
use PGP
we can do business
This is possible
I welcome your emails
regards
peace and love
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Gridlokk on October 03, 2013, 09:07 pm
Market place is ready, just need some venders to start offering products. :)

url?
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Mcrad on October 03, 2013, 09:09 pm
Market place is ready, just need some venders to start offering products. :)

url?


i have a url to the new forum he put up

http://blackiiw5nozs6i5.onion/index.php?board=1.0

much love_mcrad!
Title: pepinamil seller of cocaine
Post by: pepinamil-now on October 03, 2013, 09:12 pm
hi please
all my clients
comunicate to my email
burdeodogo@gmail.com
use PGP
we can do business
This is possible
I welcome your emails
regards
peace and love


My PGP public is

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REMEMBER I HAVE 45 DOLLARS GRAM OF COCAINE
I could send everyone from 0.5 grams to 100 grams of 80% pure cocaine


PEACE AND LOVE


My PGP public is

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= 4rVp
----- END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK -----

REMEMBER I HAVE 45 DOLLARS GRAM OF COCAINE
I could send everyone from 0.5 grams to 100 grams of 80% pure cocaine


PEACE AND LOVE
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ASTON_marteen on October 03, 2013, 09:40 pm
Hi
Astonmarteen here.... this is truly sad and fucked up, but we must keep SR alive!!! As a five month vendor I made alot of bread but also lost a lot in this bs....

here is my key please use PGP/encryption when contacting me:

just2Mariah@anonymousspeech.com

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To all my loyal customers....get at me!
looking for vendor Jack n Hoff- please PM me....

I am astonmarteen on new/alternate forum and on black flag as well...although I suppose I'll have to change the name to do business....
but for now I want to be identified by my much loved community....
was going to move to BMR, but I think I'll pause on this until the dust settles....

Let's keep this thing going!!!
Cheers
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: FreshStart on October 03, 2013, 10:44 pm
Best of luck to you sir.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: derpfacescenario on October 03, 2013, 10:50 pm
My team knows tons about http programming and what not. I am the one who brought the team together I am the idea and they are the workers if anyone willing to join send me a message with your contact details like PGP and email address(use safemail or hushmail fuck gmail) -DFS
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: redbox on October 03, 2013, 11:17 pm
Good luck to you, just be very very careful, the DEA are fucktards and will stop at nothing to find you, I freaking hate US Gov't.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ThisThatShit on October 03, 2013, 11:35 pm
Be careful about who you allow on the team, you never know who is who, and good luck again.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Evoc on October 03, 2013, 11:51 pm
Ehhhhh,

This is wrote in the registration agreement you gotta sign before registering!

 "The owners of this forum also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint or legal action arising from any situation caused by your use of this forum."



WTF???


Think i'll steer slear of this until it's got some backing of longtime SR members.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: MarcelKetman on October 04, 2013, 12:12 am
Ehhhhh,

This is wrote in the registration agreement you gotta sign before registering!

 "The owners of this forum also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint or legal action arising from any situation caused by your use of this forum."



WTF???


Think i'll steer slear of this until it's got some backing of longtime SR members.

Not sure how they could possibly reveal one's identity but WTF?!

Maybe this option is better: http://6zyze2mkwyla7jwe.onion/silkroad/backup/index.php?topic=4.0
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Evoc on October 04, 2013, 12:16 am
Ehhhhh,

This is wrote in the registration agreement you gotta sign before registering!

 "The owners of this forum also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint or legal action arising from any situation caused by your use of this forum."


Yeah I dunno what that's about but for now it's enough to halt my registration...

Not the typical terms you'd expect to see on sites like these....

Marcel, gonna shoot you a PM mate, can you send me your pgp beforehand?


WTF???


Think i'll steer slear of this until it's got some backing of longtime SR members.

Not sure how they could possibly reveal one's identity but WTF?!

Maybe this option is better: http://6zyze2mkwyla7jwe.onion/silkroad/backup/index.php?topic=4.0
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: comingdown on October 04, 2013, 12:35 am
idk how we're supposed to trust this no matter how many people vouch for him
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: derpfacescenario on October 04, 2013, 12:47 am
To all of those dumb enough to post their information on a public forum. Y'all will not be allowed on the team as you are loose ends. Sorry but don't post that type of stuff where the DEA,IRS, DOT, DOJ and homeland can easily find it. -DFS
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: marcouse on October 04, 2013, 12:50 am
If people vouch for him having the credentials to do this and to also be trust worthy, I will be behind this, until then I will watch from a distance while I decide if this is out for me or if I will continue with what new hope there is.

Marcouse.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Evoc on October 04, 2013, 12:51 am
Don't trust ANYTHING for a short while until things are a bit clearer man.

If you're gonna trust anything for buying or what not then i'd consider BMR.

As many have said, it is time tested and has withstood the war on drugs up until now but then again I wouldn't place 100% faith in anything for now. The truth about how DPR got caught may not be known to anybody but the feds for all we know and we don't know to believe what they say in the media as they may be just making it look like he fucked up so other buyers/vendors keep things rolling without knowing that feds have access to hidden sites like SR/BMR/SM.

Best to just sit back, partake in these forums and gather as much knowledge about the situation for now and hopefully in a few days our options will be more clearer.

Peace out and stay safe,
Evoc
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: deadpool on October 04, 2013, 12:56 am
how do we get our bitcoins? i got my bit address and i know my pin is there a way to transfer to another wallet from my silk road wallet? 
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 04, 2013, 01:00 am
Ehhhhh,

This is wrote in the registration agreement you gotta sign before registering!

 "The owners of this forum also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint or legal action arising from any situation caused by your use of this forum."



WTF???


Think i'll steer slear of this until it's got some backing of longtime SR members.
Sorry about that, its the default agreement for SMF.  Fixing it now.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: MarcelKetman on October 04, 2013, 01:03 am
Ehhhhh,

This is wrote in the registration agreement you gotta sign before registering!

 "The owners of this forum also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint or legal action arising from any situation caused by your use of this forum."


WTF???


Think i'll steer slear of this until it's got some backing of longtime SR members.
Sorry about that, its the default agreement for SMF.  Fixing it now.


Way to get off on the wrong foot buddy!!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Evoc on October 04, 2013, 01:07 am
Man, if this is a legit attempt to get something promising going. Don't you think there's better places for it to be advertised than these forums?

Firstly, people need assurance from some senior members that you are legit because they way it stands at the minute you could be absolutely anyone.
Supposing you are (as you say) a senior member under a new alias, I highly doubt you would be posting this info on forums which are 150% being monitored by feds.

Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: derpfacescenario on October 04, 2013, 01:14 am
^evoc is correct if you are a senior member under a new alias use your old alias and tell us that yes you are under a new alias. If not I am inclined to believe you are not one of us. -DFS
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: hexokinase on October 04, 2013, 04:04 am
I think it would be wisest if there were multiple people working on multiple versions that do NOT collaborate. Eggs in one basket, you know...

In fact, it might be wise to have coders being different people from server hosts. Obviously there are trust issues involved with staying anonymous but we're all smart people here and can figure something out. Maybe share code in an opensource format to check for bugs etc and then whoever wants to take the risk of hosting can just use the code and then has to build trust with their own website from there.

Fuck, if we had the SR code we could just duplicate it every time one goes down as long as we can get a temporary host up. It's the hosting that's risky. Obviously the FEDs have a way of locating servers with some kind of crazy NSA botnet and it might not even be feasible to run hidden services anymore. KEEP IN MIND THEY LOCATED THE SR SERVER IN JULY.

Stay safe brave programmers and internet enthusiasts. And don't make any of the n00b-tard mistakes DPR made. Read the FBI warrants (there's at least 2) and pay attention to how he fucked up (that's probably only half of his actual fuck-ups) before you even THINK about running another SR-like hidden service.

Also, might be wise to only allow small-time vendors and buyers (cap on the amounts of products) in order to make it not worth their time and build trust. DPR fell for a n00b trap of an LEO undercover offering kilos of cocaine and ended up fucking over a vendor that turned and he later tried to have killed. DON'T TRY TO BUY KILOS OF COCAINE OVER TOR BECAUSE IT'S RETARDED!

Stay safe!

Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: Boobonicchronic on October 04, 2013, 04:32 am
and so the clock keeps ticking....
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: OzAlpha on October 04, 2013, 05:14 am
Were there really no back up procedures if someone in the SR team were arrested, or just DPR himself?

Just seems very loosely organized, thought it would've been common knowledge to think "Ok IF we're compromised, the back up server elsewhere comes online".
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: rogerjolly on October 04, 2013, 05:38 am
As I said before, complacency is what got DPR.  His past rookie mistakes alone would've given the feds NOTHING.  Living in SF was not the smartest move.  He could've lived like a king in any country with no extradition agreement with US on his income.  I may not have said this before, BUT we WILL learn from this, and we WILL share the knowledge with people who truly hate USA!  When the terrorists chat with each other with NSA/CIA being none the wiser, guess what's gonna happen?  :)
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: derpfacescenario on October 04, 2013, 07:22 am
As I said before, complacency is what got DPR.  His past rookie mistakes alone would've given the feds NOTHING.
No you are completely wrong his past rookie mistakes gave the feds his full name. His gmail with his name attached to it was the downfall of SR.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: PartTimeFiend on October 04, 2013, 11:16 am
Don't believe half of what I read about the DPR arrest. Since when did the Feds tell the truth?   

Anyway, will keep an eye on this project black flag.... interesting....
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: lostnomad on October 04, 2013, 12:02 pm
Well, I believe that the technical and organizational problems with setting up a SR 2.0 (or whatewer else) can all be solved. In the best case it will be designed again, from the scratch.

But the crucial point is the TRUST. How would you trust the new markets, that they are not operated by the NSA itself? NSA can set up a new market in few hours or days - they have the SR source code and the bitcoins they seized, so it would be a piece of cake for them.

Can anyone actually prove that he does not belong to the dark side? No, it can not be done. Therefore, we can not trust anyone, right?

Right. The future SR2 must be designed in a way that will allow the buyers and sellers making their trades without the market operator knowing about the trade content. Hard to do? Yes. Impossible? No.

Only the "untrusted" market operators who do not require us to trust them can be trusted. What a paradox.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ASTON_marteen on October 04, 2013, 12:35 pm
To all of those dumb enough to post their information on a public forum. Y'all will not be allowed on the team as you are loose ends. Sorry but don't post that type of stuff where the DEA,IRS, DOT, DOJ and homeland can easily find it. -DFS

Exactly what information are you talking about? A username and PGP key? How is posting that a problem EXACTLY? Please tell me...I'm curious...
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: lostnomad on October 04, 2013, 12:52 pm
I am considering a SR alternative for maybe half year, just for the introduction. And from my perspective, I would NEVER invited anyone from public forum into my team. Just because half of them will be an NSA agents. The second half may be legitimate, but still you do not know them - they may be desperate junkies, drunkers, loose lips or whatever else, what you do not want in your team.

Strictly speaking, an anonymous public forum is the last place where to look for a team members for such sensitive project. So do not hold your breath, no one will be invited - and for a good reason. Or if somebody actually will be invited, it will be a good reason to abandon such project completely as it is probably compromised from the very beginning.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: derpfacescenario on October 04, 2013, 07:40 pm
To all of those dumb enough to post their information on a public forum. Y'all will not be allowed on the team as you are loose ends. Sorry but don't post that type of stuff where the DEA,IRS, DOT, DOJ and homeland can easily find it. -DFS

Exactly what information are you talking about? A username and PGP key? How is posting that a problem EXACTLY? Please tell me...I'm curious...

Information like email because someone from any of those agencies can pose as a buyer and tail the person tell the dude makes a mistake and the he is gone. Never give out your email in such a open place.
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ASTON_marteen on October 04, 2013, 08:45 pm
Check mate...you are correct...
That is why I would NEVER do a sale/purchase through the email (anonymous of shore email account) that I have....although I would simply communicate through it if necessary....
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: matrix66 on October 04, 2013, 09:16 pm
pure rockets!!!
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: mettaDPR on October 05, 2013, 12:46 am
I can't tie my old username to the new one.  Period.

Thanks for all the offers to help, but for the time I will be the only coder.  Anyone else would be a liability.

I have around 60% of the new site coded.  It should launch sometime next week.  (As a beta, with prizes for hacking it.)  It will be launched simply as "Silk Road" which will make the DEA very very unhappy.  Also, I will most likely make the code open-source.

The site is being designed around Kerckhoffs's axiom.

Any sellers wishing to be in the beta should contact me on the new forums.  (http://blackiiw5nozs6i5.onion)

There is also a suggestion topic for the new SR.

-DPR
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: MarcelKetman on October 05, 2013, 01:06 am
I can't tie my old username to the new one.  Period.

Thanks for all the offers to help, but for the time I will be the only coder.  Anyone else would be a liability.

I have around 60% of the new site coded.  It should launch sometime next week.  (As a beta, with prizes for hacking it.)  It will be launched simply as "Silk Road" which will make the DEA very very unhappy.  Also, I will most likely make the code open-source.

The site is being designed around Kerckhoffs's axiom.

Any sellers wishing to be in the beta should contact me on the new forums.  (http://blackiiw5nozs6i5.onion)

There is also a suggestion topic for the new SR.

-DPR

I'm liking what I'm hearing...
Title: Re: Working on a new forum/market
Post by: ilovethecolour on October 05, 2013, 05:21 am
Make it happen :)