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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: RxKing on October 02, 2013, 04:27 pm

Title: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: RxKing on October 02, 2013, 04:27 pm
*UPDATE 4:12 *
Here is the arrest warant
*UPDATE 4:12 *
Here is the CRIMINAL COMPLAINT

http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf




Ok. So we all knew something like this could happen and we need to be calm and think smartly.

If you have a negative shitty attitude then do not join in here. This will be the thread vendors come to and we put up the most accurate information available. Let's get organized and leave the bullshit at the door. 


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FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests owner

NEW YORK | Wed Oct 2, 2013 11:36am EDT


Oct 2 (Reuters) - U.S. law enforcement authorities raided an Internet site that served as a marketplace for illegal drugs, including heroin and cocaine, and arrested its owner, the Federal Bureau of Investigation said on Wednesday.

The FBI arrested Ross William Ulbricht, known as "Dread Pirate Roberts," in San Francisco on Tuesday, according to court filings. Federal prosecutors charged Ulbricht with one count each of narcotics trafficking conspiracy, computer hacking conspiracy and money laundering conspiracy, according to a court filing.



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Lets try ans stay in one thread...


Here are the back up URL's...None of them are up now...BUT I CAN TELL YOU WITH 100% CERTAINTY that a plan is supposed to go into place within hours. Lets see what happened.



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Ok. So we all knew something like this could happen and we need to be calm and think smartly.

If you have a negative shitty attitude then do not join in here. This will be the thread vendors come to and we put up the most accurate information available. Let's get organized and leave the bullshit at the door. 


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FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests owner

NEW YORK | Wed Oct 2, 2013 11:36am EDT


Oct 2 (Reuters) - U.S. law enforcement authorities raided an Internet site that served as a marketplace for illegal drugs, including heroin and cocaine, and arrested its owner, the Federal Bureau of Investigation said on Wednesday.

The FBI arrested Ross William Ulbricht, known as "Dread Pirate Roberts," in San Francisco on Tuesday, according to court filings. Federal prosecutors charged Ulbricht with one count each of narcotics trafficking conspiracy, computer hacking conspiracy and money laundering conspiracy, according to a court filing.



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Lets try ans stay in one thread...


Here are the back up URL's...None of them are up now...BUT I CAN TELL YOU WITH 100% CERTAINTY that a plan is supposed to go into place within hours. Lets see what happened.



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Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: beano99876 on October 02, 2013, 04:30 pm
If endemic is out there, shoot me a PM.
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: weeal on October 02, 2013, 04:33 pm
I agree maybe venders can post there e-mail here at moment
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: gordyo on October 02, 2013, 04:35 pm
Too true, think smartly...

It's time for the MODS to get together and go to the backup plan to
ensure a smooth transition. There is way too much money involved
here for there not to be a plan in place. Turn up the backup servers,
get the URL's posted, and get all the transactional logs for BTC back
online.

It should have been done already, but the initial panic has to subside
and rational thinking/actions get moving. Everyone knew this may
one day happen, and only stupidity would have no recourse to restoration.
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: laplace on October 02, 2013, 04:44 pm
Anyone have any luck on the B/U URLs yet?
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: RxKing on October 02, 2013, 04:52 pm
NONE of the back up plan has been "turned on yet"...I am not sure it will. But I think we need to remain calm and wait for more good information.

Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Ben on October 02, 2013, 04:58 pm
I suggest people make a local copy of these addresses, in case the forum is somehow seized/affected too or simply overloaded due to the SR outage and DPR's arrest.
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: cowpie34 on October 02, 2013, 04:59 pm
they can't just take EVERYONE'S coins can they?
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: railroadbill on October 02, 2013, 05:01 pm
theres nothing to get our heads together about, we have two choices of site now, pick one.
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: RxKing on October 02, 2013, 05:08 pm
We cant have people panicking and sayinig things like " they cant just take our coin can they"  Everyone knows the KING hates stupid comments and questions...but in here, do to all things considered...I will....BE THERE FUCKING SAME!!!! OF COURSE THEY CAN!!!! THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT!!  AND ANYONE THAT IS THINKING AB OUT BTC'S IN THEIR ACCOUNT IS WAISTING THERE TIME..THINK ABOUT GETTING MORE BTC SO YOU CAN BUY MORE DRUGS AND AT LEAST BE ABLE TO ENJOY THIS HORRIBLE NEWS...
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Ben on October 02, 2013, 05:12 pm
It seems they did not take all the money. Clearnet news confirms $3.6M worth of BTC (about 26000) being seized. There must be a heck of a lot more in wallets and escrow. Perhaps this was (just) DPR's own money - lets not panick yet and hope some of the backups will come online and we can see the status there.

BTC are dropping in value rapidly though (4% in the last hour, on thick volume), so even they are recoverd they may not be worth as much :(
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: A1pha on October 02, 2013, 05:24 pm
where are we going to be taking this conversation once this forum gets the plug pulled.

face reality,  our coins and drugs are gone and I personally have lost £1100 which is fuck all compared to what some have lost.


this is a sad day.
Title: UPDATES!!Calm down & get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT
Post by: RxKing on October 02, 2013, 05:27 pm
 A lot will be told when we find out about how DPR got arrested and why he had 26k coins on him and now they found those coins.  Also pretty strange the day the government shuts down they get DPR.  If this was truly a raid....then there will be a back up system where all coins in wallets will be sent to your back up addresses. 


What we need to do is not pass bad info. Like that loser that is saying it is a hoax.

Will have a lot more to learn in the next 6 hours... I am on top of it

Also I can confirm this is the NEWEST DPR...not the original :)

So lets just say we have an angel out and lets just hope he stays out...


I will start updating the OP when I get confirmation DPR is in jail and that the old DPR is out and if the switch is going to be flipped.


If you are a vendor then also please log in here too!!!


Please no one in here that is going to act stupid.
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: RxKing on October 02, 2013, 05:30 pm
 A lot will be told when we find out about how DPR got arrested and why he had 26k coins on him and now they found those coins.  Also pretty strange the day the government shuts down they get DPR.  If this was truly a raid....then there will be a back up system where all coins in wallets will be sent to your back up addresses. 


What we need to do is not pass bad info. Like that loser that is saying it is a hoax.

Will have a lot more to learn in the next 6 hours... I am on top of it

Also I can confirm this is the NEWEST DPR...not the original :)

So lets just say we have an angel out and lets just hope he stays out...
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: This_is_not_SOCA on October 02, 2013, 05:38 pm
POOL PGP KEYS
==============
Vendors and to a lesser extent buyers may have difficulty proving they are who they say they are in the event that the SR data set has been lost.
** Therefore it is vital that PGP public keys for vendors are retained and pooled. **
I have many stored and I am sure that many of you also have them stored. There is a PGP key thread in the security forum but it is 130 pages which is a lot to mirror and I'm not convinced it has that many vendors in it.

DON'T PANIC
==========
Silkroad architecture hopefully involves the use of hidden service servers that host the entry point rather than the website and database itself. I hope. If this is the case then it is possible that only the entry points are compromised rather than the web servers and the database which obviously is where the real deal is. Speculation but good security would suggest this is mandatory - I don't hold out a great deal of hope as there would be immense pressure on anyone in custody to provide access to all known servers. Hopefully SR team employ compartmentalization and two man rule for certain operations and DPR is not a god user across everything.

Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: cowpie34 on October 02, 2013, 05:42 pm
If they seized SR then they probably immediately transferred all coins to Gov wallets?
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: nassy on October 02, 2013, 05:44 pm
@RxKing, great advice
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Tiger on October 02, 2013, 05:46 pm
Has St.Exo still got that list of all vendors and contact details?

(Did he ever release the 2nd security audit?)
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: LasVegasLottos on October 02, 2013, 05:48 pm
A lot will be told when we find out about how DPR got arrested and why he had 26k coins on him and now they found those coins.  Also pretty strange the day the government shuts down they get DPR.  If this was truly a raid....then there will be a back up system where all coins in wallets will be sent to your back up addresses. 


What we need to do is not pass bad info. Like that loser that is saying it is a hoax.

Will have a lot more to learn in the next 6 hours... I am on top of it

Also I can confirm this is the NEWEST DPR...not the original :)

So lets just say we have an angel out and lets just hope he stays out...

Thanks for starting the thread bro.  RxKing is right panic and stupid theories flooding the forums is not going to do anything.  We know there's no way $3.6 million is every penny that was on SR.  DPR most likely didnt even have access to our wallets because then he could have just emptied everyone out and said fuck it long ago.  Most likely they got whatever was in his account and possibly whatever was in escrow because his account had authority over the escrow system.  Were all underestimating the original DPR because he prepared for a seizure and set the site up in various ways so that we can go on even in the event something happened to him.  DPR also had several helpers who im sure are hesitantly waiting to log on after he got arrested for their own safety.  In the meantime we should all start establishing connections with those whom we need to stay in contact with and keep this community running.   
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: motek on October 02, 2013, 05:53 pm
   READ THIS;

 It's DPR's charge form with all the details

http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf

They have all the PM's all the SR Messages.
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: RXMAN on October 02, 2013, 05:55 pm
rxking did you read the warrant info, they have been tracking his actions snce the inception of silkroad, and know it was him back when before it ever was silkroad. =[ its pretty detailed and intense. ive seen juries convict people on less information then is in there warrant. they have multiple silkroad servers, and all the messages on them,
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: sellitall99 on October 02, 2013, 05:56 pm
leo was imaging the servers since 2012, they knew every transaction.
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: USASupply on October 02, 2013, 05:58 pm
We lost 64 coins too, everybody lost alot of money, some had to be in the hundreds of thousands because of the amounts in escrow. but this is miniscule. If we get this back up and running we will all be making money again.but first things first:

We need to have a backup place for atleast the vendors and mods to communicate. if we cant communicate all is lost for good as everybody separates. The buyers will follow where the vendors go. I never claimed my bond refund and dont have roundtable access as i never needed it but an IRC channel is always an option. We should also ALL agree on a place, a mod or somebody with authority needs to post where everybody will go to. Without the whole community on the same page everything will fall apart.

If this is all true, the forums will be gone before long and we have to be able to speak on a professional level somewhere. New dpr may be gone but we are still here. We can all put in our 2 cents but in reality all anybody wants is a new place, screw the coins, screw the orders processing, we just need some other medium that will replace SR if this is how it seems, and somebody just needs to say when and where. If its not then when stay but that does not look promising.

also why does it say district court of NY on the seizure page?
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Cher on October 02, 2013, 06:06 pm
we're here guys... thanks rxking for starting this.

agreed that there is a massive need to get a new secure torified forum online. i hope somebody with relevant know how is woring on this (we would if we knew enough.
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: NW Nugz on October 02, 2013, 06:07 pm
BTC fell over $20 the last hour
Panic selling could make Btc a temporarily good value, esp if SR pops back up just fine.
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: RxKing on October 02, 2013, 06:16 pm
quote author=This_is_not_SOCA link=topic=216404.msg1581836#msg1581836 date=1380735524]
POOL PGP KEYS
==============
Vendors and to a lesser extent buyers may have difficulty proving they are who they say they are in the event that the SR data set has been lost.
** Therefore it is vital that PGP public keys for vendors are retained and pooled. **
I have many stored and I am sure that many of you also have them stored. There is a PGP key thread in the security forum but it is 130 pages which is a lot to mirror and I'm not convinced it has that many vendors in it.

DON'T PANIC
==========
Silkroad architecture hopefully involves the use of hidden service servers that host the entry point rather than the website and database itself. I hope. If this is the case then it is possible that only the entry points are compromised rather than the web servers and the database which obviously is where the real deal is. Speculation but good security would suggest this is mandatory - I don't hold out a great deal of hope as there would be immense pressure on anyone in custody to provide access to all known servers. Hopefully SR team employ compartmentalization and two man rule for certain operations and DPR is not a god user across everything.
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This iS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW WORTHLESS AND SHITTY PGP IS. I Do know that the "NEW" DPR is who was arrested SO THAT means the original gangster is out and around, that of course is great news for al of us. It has yet  to be seen how they busted dpr. And when that comes out that wil give us a lot more information.
As far as the switch being thrown so that SR would kick al your outstanding balances back to you is kind of a myth. there absolutely is something like that but it would not get hit anytime son.
WE really need to wait for the arrest affidavit to come out..that will tel us so much information.

Of course my attorney is already in action to get the information of what legally went down. And as son as I get it i will post it and over time you will see that I will get accurate information out as son as it is available

Another thing to point out is at this time we all need to come together and be on each others side and be patient. Of course we know that a lot of the druggies on this site act like animals when ever anything go's wrong. These people (if you want to cal them that) just feel the need to get attention and act like ass holes.


It is important to not be stupid yourself. Do not believe them. They are never right. Yet every time some of you really god people start to panic about your $500 on there and others with other amounts and you start to waste space and your time talking about if and how you will get your coins back. No one knows anything so it would all be bullshit anyways.

Every active member on here has coins on there account. We get it. Some of you are in really bad spots and need that coin. We get it. Just for once in your life take a breath and relax and realize the sun wil rise tomorrow and the ship wil sail again. And you wil find accurate information on this page. As you always have with the KING

But to the member that started talking about pgp and that the new and the old shared it and we will not al of you pgp club members have your chance to shine. The one thing we do know for sure is he did not get arrested because of using it and he did not because of not using it.

BUT the one thing this proves is that PGP is worthless in signing of messages.as even if a message from DPR was to hit this site now.no one would be able to say for sure it is him. You would be able to confirm it is his pgp.but who cares about that.and this is a reason pgp is useless. But what is more useless is talking about that. I hate PGP. But who the fuck cares. Those guys are my brothers in this fight and my opinion about pgp is the last thing to talk about. SO no more. I only care about getting the best information forward and getting some drugs out in the mail :)

Yes the KING is mailing!
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: StExo on October 02, 2013, 06:22 pm
Has St.Exo still got that list of all vendors and contact details?

(Did he ever release the 2nd security audit?)

Yes and no. I have the lists and we're working flat out with all engines roaring right now but it isn't an easy job.

2nd audit was held back at the request of DPR.
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: wretched on October 02, 2013, 06:22 pm
There has only ever been one DPR. Unless he shared details of an early discussion that I had with him to his successors. I have had intimate discussions rather recently about the same topic, and he wasn't confused in the slightest about the situation I was discussing with him.
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: CheapestCocaine on October 02, 2013, 06:25 pm
What a way to wake up.. I want to fucking puke. I think this is connected to Atlantis, and they were given a plea bargain if they helped the gov take down SR. Sorry I dont mean to post bogus theories but whether this is true or not it wouldnt change anything so its just something i thought you might want to consider.

It's hard getting my thoughts together enough to be helpful right now, but is moving to another smaller site the answer here? I didnt have bitcoins backed up OR customers, and I am not sure what is safe to communicate on.

One of my thoughts is to invest in bitcoin when it hits rock bottom. I dont know. I am so flusterfucked right now that I cant even think of accurate words to describe it. I havent heard of Sheep but that seems like the main place to go right now.
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: RxKing on October 02, 2013, 06:29 pm
rxking did you read the warrant info, they have been tracking his actions snce the inception of silkroad, and know it was him back when before it ever was silkroad. =[ its pretty detailed and intense. ive seen juries convict people on less information then is in there warrant. they have multiple silkroad servers, and all the messages on them,

Just finished it! Do not know of course how much is true.but pretty crazy!
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Tiger on October 02, 2013, 06:30 pm
Nice one St.Exo!

When did the original SR site come online? Around oct 2011?
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: gazwel on October 02, 2013, 06:34 pm
Hard to not be gutted right now :(
Title: Re: * *AREST WARENT IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: RxKing on October 02, 2013, 06:37 pm
Not that everything is 100% true. but if it is.then DPR is NERD smart but when it comes to street smarts he watched to many movies!

http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf

Wanting someone dead when you are making millions is so stupid. On another note, PGP did not help for SHIT.
The OP has the link for you to read.it is a must
Title: Re: * *AREST WARENT IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: WatLanBoon on October 02, 2013, 06:39 pm
all these many months later and you are still a prize c**t!
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: keldog09 on October 02, 2013, 06:43 pm
Can't say I'm surprised honestly. If DPR did put that hit out he's a moron. Hit man was obviously LE. I'm suspicious of how true that part of the story is though.
Title: Re: * *AREST WARENT IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: mynameis_420 on October 02, 2013, 06:43 pm
YOU GUYS NEED TO CALM DOWN. FEDS BULL SHIT A LOT. THEY ARE CAUSING US TO PANIC BY MAKING DRP LOOK BAD. HE STARTED THIS REVOLUTION THAT I AND MANY LIKE ME SUPPORT. FUCK THE FEDS, THERE IS A BACKUP PLAN IN PLACE, WE ALL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND LET TIME DO IT'S PART. DRP WILL LIVE ON AND SO WILL SR, WE'RE TOO BIG TO BE STOPPED!
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: RxKing on October 02, 2013, 06:47 pm
I agree with you keldog09



Also it goes to show that you can sell millions of dollars of drugs online.But whatever you do..DO NOT GET INTO KIdDY PORN OR TRYING TO KILL SOMEONE.

Also the OP is updated with his ful criminal complaint!

And thanks mynamesis_420. But in this thread we are calm and we know it could be bullshit. and in fact it is favored to be mostly bullshit. I mean it is the government!
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: flwrchlds9 on October 02, 2013, 06:50 pm
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Not much BS here folks. They tracked down multiple servers. In July 2013 they were able to get a full live running image of the main SR site from a foreign server. They analyzed May-July to use for the indictment.

ForeignChemist was the prick that was extorting DPR and threatened to release names/addresses. DPR tried to have him killed. He used SR clear messages to set up the murder. They have the messages.

All transactions and PM's through July 2013 can be considered in the hands of the feds.

If you used clear text PM's for sensitive info, act accordingly.

Cleanup and don't expect the site to come back up any time soon, if at all but that is too early to tell now.
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Mr BlackHat on October 02, 2013, 06:56 pm
Is there really a backup plan in place?

Here's a BBC article to shine some extra light on what happened. Apparently DPR was arrested at a public library? :/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24373759
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Mr BlackHat on October 02, 2013, 07:01 pm
I've just read in the BBC article:

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A second document alleges that private communications recovered from the Silk Road's computer server suggested the suspect had been willing to pursue violent means to defend his interests.

Does that mean that the actual server is compromised completely ? Also, he was arrested in a public library although the Silk Road's server computer was seized at the same time?
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: gimmemoredrugs on October 02, 2013, 07:06 pm
Does anyone know the HOW's of this situation?  HOW did they track him down if TOR is anonymizing?  HOW did they get access to the servers?  HOW did they decrypt his PGP messages...and of course HOW fucked is everyone that was a part of this website?  Even if they do have our addresses or whatever they can't prove anyone actually received drugs unless the government was actually sending them out...fuck I've been feeling like this was coming for a while now...didn't get on for a couple days and then this....fuck WHAT HAPPENED?!?
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Mr BlackHat on October 02, 2013, 07:08 pm
Also read this in one of the articles;

"Authorities seized the currency by taking control of the digital "wallets" Silk Road used to store bitcoin."

I think money's well and truely gone..
Title: Re: Calm down and get are heads together. let this be THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Hedonisticshaman420 on October 02, 2013, 07:12 pm
What a way to wake up.. I want to fucking puke. I think this is connected to Atlantis, and they were given a plea bargain if they helped the gov take down SR. Sorry I dont mean to post bogus theories but whether this is true or not it wouldnt change anything so its just something i thought you might want to consider.

It's hard getting my thoughts together enough to be helpful right now, but is moving to another smaller site the answer here? I didnt have bitcoins backed up OR customers, and I am not sure what is safe to communicate on.

One of my thoughts is to invest in bitcoin when it hits rock bottom. I dont know. I am so flusterfucked right now that I cant even think of accurate words to describe it. I havent heard of Sheep but that seems like the main place to go right now.

We all need to stick together right now, Vendors & customers alike. We need to support each other & keep the drama to a minimal. Let the information come out as it is recieved by those who are in the know, Us clients & vendors should support the hell out of those who are bringing us this information by doing our best to keep things civil.

Cheapestcocaine, You are a stand up dude & I Will follow you where ever you decide to do business bro, So let me know when you know ! I am still ready to do my order with you @ the end of the month my man. You got my support,

Stay tight everybody stay safe & stay calm, This will get sorted & something will hopefully happen in the near future where the road pops back up & is a complete slap in the face of law enforcement as all this effort of theirs would be in vein wasted for nothing. That is our victory, So lets stay civil, Stay calm & hope that behind the scenes things are very busy right now working on getting things back up and functional in a safe way.
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Fah-Q on October 02, 2013, 07:14 pm
DPR is just small guy to the feds. He's just a facilitator. Fed's drumming up some heavy duty charges for negotiating leverage to get him to co-operate. DPR has intel the feds want, and they are going to try anything to get him to co-operate. There is a good chance he may give up the location of the backup servers.
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: MollyMarley on October 02, 2013, 07:16 pm
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Not much BS here folks. They tracked down multiple servers. In July 2013 they were able to get a full live running image of the main SR site from a foreign server. They analyzed May-July to use for the indictment.

ForeignChemist was the prick that was extorting DPR and threatened to release names/addresses. DPR tried to have him killed. He used SR clear messages to set up the murder. They have the messages.

All transactions and PM's through July 2013 can be considered in the hands of the feds.

If you used clear text PM's for sensitive info, act accordingly.

Cleanup and don't expect the site to come back up any time soon, if at all but that is too early to tell now.


So, are we safe, as long as our addresses were always encrypted? I had openly discussed plans of buying large quantities of drugs through PM's without encryption, but I never revealed sensitive info in those PMs, like addresses. I should be fine, right?

Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: NW Nugz on October 02, 2013, 07:16 pm
Also the OP is updated with his ful criminal complaint!
I looked at the OP and only see a link to a PDF. Could someone post the text. Downloading files from clearnet sites or even visiting links posted in this forum seems too risky to me. Yes, I am paranoid.
To avoid too much text in this thread, could make a new "documents" thread and just post a link to it here.
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: RxKing on October 02, 2013, 07:19 pm
http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf
Hear you go NW
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Kopitewarrior on October 02, 2013, 07:19 pm
What's the danger to small time buyers here? If I recall no buyer arrests were made when the farmers market went down and that was with paypal transactions. Is it likely that LE will actually comb the database and hunt down small time buyers (presumably if their address was unencrypted or in a PM)?

Plus, what are the feds going to do if they track a buyer down with evidence that he bought drugs if no drugs are found on site? Yeah, he may have bought some drugs a few months ago, but what do they actually have?
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: fuckingACE on October 02, 2013, 07:26 pm
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Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Stormtrooper420 on October 02, 2013, 07:30 pm
As long as everyone took the proper security measures you will be safe. DPR won't. They busted SR, thats that. Servers and all it seems. Best thing to do is move on. How can someone be such an idiot to post under their real name? Thats like Pfandlier sending packs to his business under his name, or Holly using his real name on a fake ID lol. Security guys, its kinda important
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: tree on October 02, 2013, 07:31 pm
Does anyone know the HOW's of this situation?  HOW did they track him down if TOR is anonymizing?  HOW did they get access to the servers?  HOW did they decrypt his PGP messages...and of course HOW fucked is everyone that was a part of this website?  Even if they do have our addresses or whatever they can't prove anyone actually received drugs unless the government was actually sending them out...fuck I've been feeling like this was coming for a while now...didn't get on for a couple days and then this....fuck WHAT HAPPENED?!?

It's all in the criminal complaint.. He did a lot of fuck ups which allowed the feds to gain access to the SR servers basically. Everything that was PGP encrypted is safe.

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On another note, PGP did not help for SHIT.

Actually, it did. The feds have the addresses of a lot of your customers now.

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looked at the OP and only see a link to a PDF. Could someone post the text. Downloading files from clearnet sites or even visiting links posted in this forum seems too risky to me. Yes, I am paranoid.
To avoid too much text in this thread, could make a new "documents" thread and just post a link to it here.

Go to  http://view.samurajdata.se/  to view PDFs safely on tor. Contrary to popular belief, visiting clearnet links with tor is NOT a security risk. You shouldn't use your normal browser to visit links posted on here though, always use tor.
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Mr BlackHat on October 02, 2013, 07:37 pm
I'm still offering services to my customers, using PGP also.
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Fortrees on October 02, 2013, 07:45 pm
Has anyone considered that this is an elaborate fake so DPR can make off with all the holdings? Has there been any official information released by LE? Or just the spash page on SR and then what was fed to media?

I don't know, maybe if the risk was getting too high this was a way to cash out big and walk away?
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Mr BlackHat on October 02, 2013, 07:51 pm
I am certain that it's not fake. Only because there's news articles displayed on national news websites and no doubt it will make the TV news at some point over the next few days. Would be great if someone a bit higher up could give us some kinda insight on what's going to happen next with regard to backup servers or whether we should vacate?
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: fingertothefbi on October 02, 2013, 07:57 pm
It could be fake in the media, not to long ago i saw on the mainstream news that a bomb went off in the whitehouse and president obama was injured but ok....... turned out someone hacked the whitehouse twitter account lol........ but if it was fake dpr would come on here to let us know or a mod would
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Evoc on October 02, 2013, 07:57 pm
Has anybody seen news of the bust on tv at all.... There's not a mention on any news channel I can find. Only websites.

Is that not kind of strange ???
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: CptMorgan on October 02, 2013, 07:58 pm
Really stupid question. But have you guys considered "where" this forum is hosted? Since I get error messages showing SR logo when browsing this forum... I don't want to spread no FUD it's just something I noticed.
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Baraka on October 02, 2013, 08:00 pm
What's the danger to small time buyers here? If I recall no buyer arrests were made when the farmers market went down and that was with paypal transactions. Is it likely that LE will actually comb the database and hunt down small time buyers (presumably if their address was unencrypted or in a PM)?

Who knows? Massive busts usually involve large suppliers. It's always about the supply. The government wants to restrict it to keep prices up and reduce availability. But this may be different and the government may try to send a message by trying to bust as many people as possible. That means going after low hanging fruit (people who didn't encrypt sensitive info). I don't want to scare anyone but if you did reveal sensitive info in the clear then you need to act accordingly. Not the least of which is to know your rights and how to exercise them. Especially the right to remain silent and the right against unreasonable search and seizure. And the right to have your lawyer present when questioned. Also scrub any incriminating info on your computer(s) with DBAN or by encrypting your entire hard drive with Twofish using an 80+ character password then delete your partitions. Lastly you make 100% sure that there is no incriminating physical evidence to nail you.

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Plus, what are the feds going to do if they track a buyer down with evidence that he bought drugs if no drugs are found on site? Yeah, he may have bought some drugs a few months ago, but what do they actually have?

Exactly. Now you're thinking like LE. Kinda hard to make a case if you don't have any physical evidence. You can assume whatever you sent in the clear has been fully compromised and is now in some sort of a permanent government watchlist. That means use alternative drops and names. Obvious and common sense but apparently not nearly common sense enough given how SR was brought down.
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Radius2000 on October 02, 2013, 08:01 pm
Has anybody seen news of the bust on tv at all.... There's not a mention on any news channel I can find. Only websites.

Is that not kind of strange ???

Maybe not where you are but it's on the news in my country. Not a headline story but still getting mentioned.
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Fortrees on October 02, 2013, 08:03 pm
Media is easily manipulated. I mean, if I wanted to run off with tens of millions of your guys money I would probably write a fairly compelling press release as well.
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: angel555 on October 02, 2013, 08:09 pm
To be honest the fact that silkroad has been closed is a BIG DEAL. I mean silkroad been getting alot of mainstream attention recently.

wouldn't be suprised if it was on major news channel soon
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Kopitewarrior on October 02, 2013, 08:18 pm
What's the danger to small time buyers here? If I recall no buyer arrests were made when the farmers market went down and that was with paypal transactions. Is it likely that LE will actually comb the database and hunt down small time buyers (presumably if their address was unencrypted or in a PM)?

Who knows? Massive busts usually involve large suppliers. It's always about the supply. The government wants to restrict it to keep prices up and reduce availability. But this may be different and the government may try to send a message by trying to bust as many people as possible. That means going after low hanging fruit (people who didn't encrypt sensitive info). I don't want to scare anyone but if you did reveal sensitive info in the clear then you need to act accordingly. Not the least of which is to know your rights and how to exercise them. Especially the right to remain silent and the right against unreasonable search and seizure. And the right to have your lawyer present when questioned. Also scrub any incriminating info on your computer(s) with DBAN or by encrypting your entire hard drive with Twofish using an 80+ character password then delete your partitions. Lastly you make 100% sure that there is no incriminating physical evidence to nail you.

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Plus, what are the feds going to do if they track a buyer down with evidence that he bought drugs if no drugs are found on site? Yeah, he may have bought some drugs a few months ago, but what do they actually have?

Exactly. Now you're thinking like LE. Kinda hard to make a case if you don't have any physical evidence. You can assume whatever you sent in the clear has been fully compromised and is now in some sort of a permanent government watchlist. That means use alternative drops and names. Obvious and common sense but apparently not nearly common sense enough given how SR was brought down.

Thanks for the response. I am not US-based either so risk is reduced a small amount, but the FBI will no doubt share this information with international partners. What exactly would be incriminating evidence on my hard drive apart from Tor browser? Guessing Tor leaves behind 'footprints' on the hard drive?
Title: Re: NEW NEW NEW Criminal complaint IN THE UPDATE! THE PLACE TO DO IT IN HERE
Post by: Mr Lucy on October 02, 2013, 08:46 pm
Exactly. Have the back up planned and prepared so we can all cash out! AHAH don't let those greedy FEDs get our hard earned money.

Note: For vendors, why wasn't our coins sent to our 3 back-up wallets??? Isn't that the reason we had that thing, to avoid losing our money? :-( Surely DPR didn't work alone, where are his friends and mods?

If someone does get it up and running and activate the release coins button, that person will be rewarded GREATLY!! Life time insurance