Silk Road forums
Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: Dread Pirate Roberts on September 04, 2013, 06:49 pm
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There isn't much to say except to acknowledge that the Tor network is having problems and access to Silk Road and the forums has been hard the past few days. We are doing our best from our end to overcome the problems and I know the Tor team is doing their best. Hopefully we'll get the network running smoothly soon. I'll keep you posted here if anything develops.
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Thank you :)
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I gotta say, I really have not had that much of an issue. I was here when it was completely down for a week+, back in the spring...This is nothing but some hiccups here and there, which I can tolerate. =) Thanks for posting DPR..~bow~
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Thanks DPR I have come to find that if I keep trying ill eventually get the sign in page and from there it usually works fine. We need anonymous to put these fuckers in check
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Thanks DPR and Team:-)
It does seem like the more hidden services are harder to access than other sites using Tor. I really have no Idea, but, I'm guessing they are being targeted by troublemakers rather than this just being random overload of the system. Or, maybe it is something about being well hidden makes the random overload affect my favorite hidden sites more badly.
Anyway, good luck with the ongoing battle!
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Thanks DPR I have come to find that if I keep trying ill eventually get the sign in page and from there it usually works fine. We need anonymous to put these fuckers in check
same here. took many tries to finally get to the login pages but since then everything has been smooth, hopefully it stays that way. thanks dpr
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Hey dpr maybe should should ask atl admins for help.
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It's taken me an hour of refreshing to get here, but now I'm here pages seem to be loading quickly enough.
No luck getting into the marketplace yet though, and it took well over 30 minutes for my torified Bitcoin-qt client to make a single connection and start downloading blocks. Again, once it had a connection the blocks came down nice and fast.
Something is amiss here!
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I was gone for a few days and just returned last night. What's happening is probably because of my absence. Sorry guys. I'm back now though so hopefully everything will return to normal soon ;)
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No luck getting into the marketplace yet though
Aaaaand as if by magic, I am now in the marketplace!
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Hey dpr maybe should should ask atl admins for help.
Hmmm... someone should check out how TOR works.
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It's been up and down faster than a whore's knickers over the past 24 hours. Very intermittent. I find brutal persistence pays off.
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Thank you DRP & Crew.
Impossible to get on SR right now where I am (even using Brute Determination), only just managed the forums...
Question: Does physical location have anything to do with access to and speed of the Tor network?
Common sense says 'no, once you are in, you are in'... But in my location it seems to always be very much slower when the majority of the population here (who may have relays set up on their home computers) may be asleep and have them turned off. (Interestingly enough my slowest time is probably the most busiest in North America)
See ya! :)
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any chance SR would fund some TOR relays? (if not already)
kinda like if eBay advertised and got more members they would invest in more server muscle
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Well looks like each and everyone of us, is going to have to set up OUR OWN RELAYS or suffer the consequences.
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I just made a thread in the security section on coordinating funds as a vendor to set up relays... figured worth getting thoughts on it first
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=210003.new#new
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I'd like to test a theory. For the people who have had no / few problems in the last couple of days, are you using bridges or regular entry guards?
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I think you can see the Tor congestion problem using "Net Map" in Tor Vidalia.
In the window under the Map, you can see the various node failures when you try to connect to SR.
Nodes like pascal3 and srvph3xat have been getting hammered. Earlier today, many nodes had uptimes of and hour or less. Now they are more like 8 hours, which looks better, but I'm still worried that so much traffic is hitting pascal3.
You may want to upgrade to Tor Bundle 2.4 Beta, which has smarter routing.
Stay safe.
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Hey dpr maybe should should ask atl admins for help.
When you can see the congestion on the tor network, I don't think its something DPR can control.
I personally would be concerned to be able to consistently access Atlantis in 30 seconds while the rest of Tor is congested, and wonder how can they can do that.
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Personally I have had zero luck logging in during the day. But then at night time around 8 or 9 pm suddenly everything loads lightning fast, both SR and the forums. Solution? Try logging in at night instead of peak hours.
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For me after peak hours...forum loads extra fast, but SR just stays on the loading screen for about a min and then says problem loading page....
Mr.Black
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Hey dpr maybe should should ask atl admins for help.
That's probably not fair. DPR just gave an interview in Forbes Magazine. Atlantis is a startup peddling it's wares via YouTube. The traffic to SR is massive compared to any other onion website. It is a wonder we are able to log in at all. Ordinary clearnet websites crash all the time from the slightest bump in traffic. I am very impressed with everything about SR ad it's fearless staff.
My hat is off to you DPR. Long may we serve under you, liege.
Modzi
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im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
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I think you can see the Tor congestion problem using "Net Map" in Tor Vidalia.
In the window under the Map, you can see the various node failures when you try to connect to SR.
Nodes like pascal3 and srvph3xat have been getting hammered. Earlier today, many nodes had uptimes of and hour or less. Now they are more like 8 hours, which looks better, but I'm still worried that so much traffic is hitting pascal3.
You may want to upgrade to Tor Bundle 2.4 Beta, which has smarter routing.
Stay safe.
nice +1 thank you.
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Atlantis IS actually loading ALOT quicker, but I believe SR is loading slower because SOO many more people are actually trying to access it vs. Atlantis. Now don't think I am an Atlantis shill, because their site was loading faster, I actually was able to sign up for an account and look around..... I logged out and will not log in again unless SR is gets shut down. Atlantis just doesn't have anywhere close to the userbase of SR.
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im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
My god, What a pretentious douchehole. The mere fact that this site even exists in this fucking day and age is a mircale. If you think you can do any better why don't you step up son.
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im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
Not DPR's fault.
How about running a Tor Relay to help out? You can start one using Vidalia. A couple of clicks will get you setup. You can choose to just relay traffic so you're not an entry or exit node.
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im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
Not DPR's fault.
How about running a Tor Relay to help out? You can start one using Vidalia. A couple of clicks will get you setup. You can choose to just relay traffic so you're not an entry or exit node.
I'm actually in the process of setting this up on my machine. I have plenty of bandwith to spare. Just not using the TOR Bundle so I have to edit my configuration files. Based on what I've read, some bot was flooding the network by attacking relays? Am I getting that right? Probably gov's dirty work.
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im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
Guys, please IGNORE this guy. He is like the new MASTERBLASTER if anyone remembers him. He is either a troll or a Complete IDIOT.
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Tried earlier in the day about 10 times with no success. I am not a vendor, so figured I would lay off and let the people that really need to get on have a go at it. Tried now and after three tries SR came right up. Worked really fast, while doing a lot of browsing and ......um buying.
Thank you SR team!!!! you have made this last two years one of the most exciting of my life. Take it from someone who has seen the ups and downs..........these downs are much shorter and better documented. Love you all.
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im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
I started to read your post but all I could hear was "whaa whaa whaa I'm a whiny little bitch", seriously dude get a grip on yourself and stop posting retarded shit like this. You should be praising the ground DPR walks on for creating this site not whinging and whining because you can't buy your drugs absolutely right when you need too. I try not to flame people but you earned it this time.
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im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
I started to read your post but all I could hear was "whaa whaa whaa I'm a whiny little bitch", seriously dude get a grip on yourself and stop posting retarded shit like this. You should be praising the ground DPR walks on for creating this site not whinging and whining because you can't buy your drugs absolutely right when you need too. I try not to flame people but you earned it this time.
Touche! Well said. :)
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it often helps to 'Use a New Identity' -- sometimes the route you're using is just sucking. i *think* it's good practice to do this anyway at random intervals too, as it might help provide more anonymity, but perhaps someone else can confirm this with detail.
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it often helps to 'Use a New Identity' -- sometimes the route you're using is just sucking.
problem right now is, that it's hardly possible to establish a route (Tor circuit) at all. That's also why it keeps working (for up to 10 minutes) after you got to the login screen because a circuit was finally established.
On connection attempts Tor of course waits for nodes to time out before trying other ones. With using a new identity you most likely cancel that waiting time because the circuit gets closed anyway. So it might be possible that you speed things up a little by doing this. However it's also possible that you cancel an attempt that would have built a circuit successfully.
Think this is more of a placebo thing and when it works after hitting the 'new identity' button, it's more of a coincidence because that circuit would most likely have been tried next anyway.
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I'm not sure what you mean exactly but if you're talking about waiting for the site to load, you need to cancel all open requests before 'Use a New Identity' will help at all. So hit X (stop) on all browser tabs or whatever, use a new identity, then try to reload from the main site page. If it doesn't respond pretty quickly, hit STOP and repeat until it does.
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I think that, given the nature of what we do, we have to expect some intermittent downtime.
Accessing outside of north America's peak hours is working successfully for me. This morning, browsing hidden services is lightning fast in Europe, however, when the USA rise from slumber later on today it will cause a huge rise in the number of Tor users. Coupled with the more determined attacks from LE, this might impact upon the global Tor network. A bit simplistic perhaps, but that's my theory.
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Not to mention a little bit of PATIENCE. Sometimes things happen which are beyond our control. If you want to help offset the downturn in speed caused by the additional number of Tor users, set up a relay as others have said.
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whoo hoo !
i just accessed the site and forum both pretty quick, 1st time trying.
haven't been able to do this for around 4-5 days now, hopefully it's getting back on track.
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Hey dpr maybe should should ask atl admins for help.
Does Atlantis have a user forum? or a fan site? maybe you can start posting there..
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Many Tor relays already updated to version 0.2.4.17-rc (276 of >4000 so far). These relays will give Tor clients with version 0.2.4.x a higher priority. The botnet which is screwing with the Tor network uses version 0.2.3.x
So if you update to an experimental version of Tor your connections may sometimes get better. It depends on whether your entry guard has already updated their Tor version.
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/how-to-handle-millions-new-tor-clients
Step two is to get more users using the NTor circuit-level handshake, which is new in Tor 0.2.4 and offers stronger security with lower processing overhead (and thus less pain to relays). Tor 0.2.4.17-rc comes with an added twist: we prioritize NTor create cells over the old TAP create cells that 0.2.3 clients send, which a) means relays will get the cheap computations out of the way first so they're more likely to succeed, and b) means that Tor 0.2.4 users will jump the queue ahead of the botnet requests.
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I may end up posting this as a post on a new thread but how do I upgrade my verson of TOR if I'm running Tails 2.0?
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im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
I started to read your post but all I could hear was "whaa whaa whaa I'm a whiny little bitch", seriously dude get a grip on yourself and stop posting retarded shit like this. You should be praising the ground DPR walks on for creating this site not whinging and whining because you can't buy your drugs absolutely right when you need too. I try not to flame people but you earned it this time.
wow what a little bitch he is.Needs a smack in the mouth,show some fucking respect you little bitch.
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Many Tor relays already updated to version 0.2.4.17-rc (276 of >4000 so far). These relays will give Tor clients with version 0.2.4.x a higher priority. The botnet which is screwing with the Tor network uses version 0.2.3.x
Looks like it's up to 600 now. That doesn't tell the whole story, because relay selection is weighted by bandwidth, so if the top 600 relays by bandwidth were running Tor 0.2.4, then 90% of your circuits would go through those relays. I doubt that's the case though.
The problem is that the botnet is growing faster than the number of relays that are upgrading to Tor 0.2.4.
Another problem is that the botnet might upgrade to Tor 0.2.4 too.
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im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
I started to read your post but all I could hear was "whaa whaa whaa I'm a whiny little bitch", seriously dude get a grip on yourself and stop posting retarded shit like this. You should be praising the ground DPR walks on for creating this site not whinging and whining because you can't buy your drugs absolutely right when you need too. I try not to flame people but you earned it this time.
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Hey dpr maybe should should ask atl admins for help.
Does Atlantis have a user forum? or a fan site? maybe you can start posting there..
im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
I started to read your post but all I could hear was "whaa whaa whaa I'm a whiny little bitch", seriously dude get a grip on yourself and stop posting retarded shit like this. You should be praising the ground DPR walks on for creating this site not whinging and whining because you can't buy your drugs absolutely right when you need too. I try not to flame people but you earned it this time.
wow what a little bitch he is.Needs a smack in the mouth,show some fucking respect you little bitch.
The fact of the matter Silk Road is currently practically unusable as it only works in very shorts bursts, while Atlantis is blazing fast without any issues whatsoever - how is this possible? These are the theories as far as I see it:
* Atlantis has a vastly better programmed website making it process traffic a lot better. Solution: Make Silk Road work more efficiently.
* Atlantis has vastly less Visitors than Silk Road in comparison and thus works better. Solution: Silk Road should acquire a lot more Servers for more Processing Power and Bandwidth.
* Atlantis is using considerably less bandwidth per User than Silk Road making it load much faster. Solution: Make Silk Road consume less Bandwidth, in other words simply better programming.
* Atlantis is not effected by this Botnet at all while Silk Road grinds to a halt. Solution: This is basically impossible which would indicate there's currently a targeted DDoS against Silk Road which for some reason hasn't been Announced, hoping it will go away on it's own.
All I can see is people sticking their sands in the sand or ridiculing those claiming Atlantis is working better when it clearly is, it is better to acknowledge that the problem exist and try and find out exactly why this is - unless there's a lot going on behind the scenes which we're not told. If this Botnet thing disappears in the coming days I'm afraid people will just forget about this whole thing when it clearly wasn't the Botnet responsible for the majority of the slowdown here on Silk Road these last few days.
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im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
I started to read your post but all I could hear was "whaa whaa whaa I'm a whiny little bitch", seriously dude get a grip on yourself and stop posting retarded shit like this. You should be praising the ground DPR walks on for creating this site not whinging and whining because you can't buy your drugs absolutely right when you need too. I try not to flame people but you earned it this time.
With all due respect DPR makes millions off this site and I don't think anyone should be told to worship him like many make out here. I'm happy the site at least exists but you should expect criticism in circumstances like this.
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im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
I started to read your post but all I could hear was "whaa whaa whaa I'm a whiny little bitch", seriously dude get a grip on yourself and stop posting retarded shit like this. You should be praising the ground DPR walks on for creating this site not whinging and whining because you can't buy your drugs absolutely right when you need too. I try not to flame people but you earned it this time.
With all due respect DPR makes millions off this site and I don't think anyone should be told to worship him like many make out here. I'm happy the site at least exists but you should expect criticism in circumstances like this.
DPR also has zero control over the botnet that is currently affecting the Tor network. Criticism is always welcomed where criticism is due however when when it is made out of complete ignorance of the facts as is the case in this instance then sorry no.
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im getting tired of this, where are buyers gonna go when SR is down constantly for days on end? either atl or the streets, either way this is no way to run a fucking business, get ur shit straight dpr#2.
I started to read your post but all I could hear was "whaa whaa whaa I'm a whiny little bitch", seriously dude get a grip on yourself and stop posting retarded shit like this. You should be praising the ground DPR walks on for creating this site not whinging and whining because you can't buy your drugs absolutely right when you need too. I try not to flame people but you earned it this time.
With all due respect DPR makes millions off this site and I don't think anyone should be told to worship him like many make out here. I'm happy the site at least exists but you should expect criticism in circumstances like this.
DPR also has zero control over the botnet that is currently affecting the Tor network. Criticism is always welcomed where criticism is due however when when it is made out of complete ignorance of the facts as is the case in this instance then sorry no.
He must have been hungry to come back for seconds of what SSBD is dishing out :)
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************NW Nugz Tips for accessing Silk Road when it is hard to get onto due to Tor Network congestion ***********
For those having trouble logging into SR, realize it may take multiple tries and expect more trouble during the USA-daytime. I have been able to get on SR regularly. No trouble vending effectively when SR is up.
The tips and tricks:
Put on your tinfoil hat :-) (Optional)
Make sure silkroad is allowed on noscript (may not really matter)
Go to a Https website (you trust) in a browser tab to make sure you have a good Tor connection.
Once it loads fully, then, pretty quickly attempt to load SR on a different tab.
Once you do so, do Not look at any other tab until SR loads. Keep you mouse cursor on the page SR is about to load on.
Keep the cursor moving on that page (apparently, if you click over to another tab or stop moving your cursor, The page gives up trying as hard to load as it assumes you are not really there anymore).
Be patient and keep trying if it does not work. I don't think clicking "try again" (on a failed connection page) works as well as hitting a link/bookmark, or, "go" or "enter" in the address bar. It is annoying to be patient, but, if you get in it is usually a lot quicker afterwards.
If this is not working, even when you are patient, you can try right clicking the green onion icon to try a "New Identity".
If you get to the log in page and the captcha has letters but no numbers, reload the page until it has both.
Once you are in, stay active or you may start to get a slower and slower connection. If that happens, be patient and speeds should pick up again.
If SR gets really, really slow; look forward to getting logged out and having to re-log in. I think of that as SR (or Tor?) clearing out the bots. Afterwards things usually run fast again.
If you took my "Put on your tinfoil hat :-)" comment seriously at the beginning, you might want to keep it on. Most experts would probably tell you you can take it off now, though :-)
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The fact of the matter Silk Road is currently practically unusable as it only works in very shorts bursts, while Atlantis is blazing fast without any issues whatsoever - how is this possible? These are the theories as far as I see it:
* Atlantis has a vastly better programmed website making it process traffic a lot better. Solution: Make Silk Road work more efficiently.
* Atlantis has vastly less Visitors than Silk Road in comparison and thus works better. Solution: Silk Road should acquire a lot more Servers for more Processing Power and Bandwidth.
* Atlantis is using considerably less bandwidth per User than Silk Road making it load much faster. Solution: Make Silk Road consume less Bandwidth, in other words simply better programming.
* Atlantis is not effected by this Botnet at all while Silk Road grinds to a halt. Solution: This is basically impossible which would indicate there's currently a targeted DDoS against Silk Road which for some reason hasn't been Announced, hoping it will go away on it's own.
All I can see is people sticking their sands in the sand or ridiculing those claiming Atlantis is working better when it clearly is, it is better to acknowledge that the problem exist and try and find out exactly why this is - unless there's a lot going on behind the scenes which we're not told. If this Botnet thing disappears in the coming days I'm afraid people will just forget about this whole thing when it clearly wasn't the Botnet responsible for the majority of the slowdown here on Silk Road these last few days.
You forgot the conspiracy theories:
Atlantians are behind the Bot or DDos attacks,
LE is runnign the attacks and letting traffic through to their Atlantis "honeypot",
Atlantis is not as deeply (safely) hidden and so traffic has an easier time reaching it,
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I don't think Atlantis staff is doing this, but, did not want your list to be incomplete.
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it often helps to 'Use a New Identity' -- sometimes the route you're using is just sucking.
problem right now is, that it's hardly possible to establish a route (Tor circuit) at all. That's also why it keeps working (for up to 10 minutes) after you got to the login screen because a circuit was finally established.
On connection attempts Tor of course waits for nodes to time out before trying other ones. With using a new identity you most likely cancel that waiting time because the circuit gets closed anyway. So it might be possible that you speed things up a little by doing this. However it's also possible that you cancel an attempt that would have built a circuit successfully.
Think this is more of a placebo thing and when it works after hitting the 'new identity' button, it's more of a coincidence because that circuit would most likely have been tried next anyway.
https://metrics.torproject.org/network.html#dirbytes
Everybody hitting new identity all the time isn't helping speed up the network
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I'm sorry but this doesn't make any sense to me. If the issue is a bot attacking TOR why can i access pretty much any other hiddden service i want without any issue? I can connect and surf the forums with no trouble, I can visit various other tor services without any problems. I hate to say it but it looks to me that silkroad is being personally targeted somehow. Just my personal observation maybe someone can explain this to me.
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They could be using the botnet to attempt deanonymiziation of SR servers. It could also be that for securities sake, there are a limited number of pointers in the TOR network servicing SR. I know if you have too many it makes it easier to de-anonymize, even if services work faster.
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Its so bad today I nearly can't function to get my orders out. Also I can't seem to get torchat to connect properly all of a sudden.
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BMR seems to be down too...
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I'm sorry but this doesn't make any sense to me. If the issue is a bot attacking TOR why can i access pretty much any other hiddden service i want without any issue? I can connect and surf the forums with no trouble, I can visit various other tor services without any problems. I hate to say it but it looks to me that silkroad is being personally targeted somehow. Just my personal observation maybe someone can explain this to me.
For me it's the forums too. From that I assume it's all hidden services but these are the only 2 I use so idk.
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The problem with hidden services is that, unlike with connections through Tor to the clearnet, there need to be 6 relays between you and the Silk Road server working properly. For clearnet connections you only need 3 relays to work properly. However only 1 in 10 relays have the latest version of Tor installed. So 9 of 10 relays are susceptible to getting overloaded by the botnets circuit building requests.
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Does TAILS .20 have the latest version of Tor? I suspect not but I'm not sure. If not, will it be in TAILS .20.1?
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These guys are scumbags, attacking our homes!
This is one of the down sides of working outside the law....there's no one to call for help. If this were the old west, SR, BMR, Atlantis and others would form a posse and hunt down the attackers.
Is there a way to hunt down bots in a botnet and kick their ass? Do we know which botnet is doing this? I know giant corporations like Microsoft have actually taken down botnets, but what could SR, DPR or other "concerned citizens" do to fight back?
I'm thikin' it's time to saddle up. :-)
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These guys are scumbags, attacking our homes!
This is one of the down sides of working outside the law....there's no one to call for help. If this were the old west, SR, BMR, Atlantis and others would form a posse and hunt down the attackers.
Is there a way to hunt down bots in a botnet and kick their ass? Do we know which botnet is doing this? I know giant corporations like Microsoft have actually taken down botnets, but what could SR, DPR or other "concerned citizens" do to fight back?
I'm thikin' it's time to saddle up. :-)
Really there is nothing anyone can do about this IMO. You can seize a domain, but how do you take down a hidden service? That's the entire reason they moved the botnet on to Tor, so authorities couldn't seize the domain. It's actually kind of scary considering one group has control of this many Tor nodes. We could all easily be deanonymized if they ran them as guards/exits,
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Atlantis is not as deeply (safely) hidden and so traffic has an easier time reaching it,
Atlantis just has a lot less traffic. As you say, accessing SR is worst in the USA daytime, when traffic peaks, but during USA night time it's not bad. There's no difference in how "deep" they are hidden, just the amount traffic that adds onto the botnet load to prevent you from accessing SR in the daytime.
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Really there is nothing anyone can do about this IMO. You can seize a domain, but how do you take down a hidden service? That's the entire reason they moved the botnet on to Tor, so authorities couldn't seize the domain. It's actually kind of scary considering one group has control of this many Tor nodes. We could all easily be deanonymized if they ran them as guards/exits,
Unless the botnet owner is running dozens of hidden services, it shouldn't be hard to find. Run a bunch of service directories. The C&C server would be the one receiving 500K descriptor fetches per day at a single service directory (3 million total). Also, a few people are running entry guards that are getting killed right now, again unless there are many C&C hidden services, or one has increased entry guards to like 30.
The botnet accounts for 85%of activity on the Tor network right now. The hidden service should be much easier to find than most hidden services.
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Really there is nothing anyone can do about this IMO. You can seize a domain, but how do you take down a hidden service? That's the entire reason they moved the botnet on to Tor, so authorities couldn't seize the domain. It's actually kind of scary considering one group has control of this many Tor nodes. We could all easily be deanonymized if they ran them as guards/exits,
Unless the botnet owner is running dozens of hidden services, it shouldn't be hard to find. Run a bunch of service directories. The C&C server would be the one receiving 500K descriptor fetches per day at a single service directory (3 million total). Also, a few people are running entry guards that are getting killed right now, again unless there are many C&C hidden services, or one has increased entry guards to like 30.
The botnet accounts for 85%of activity on the Tor network right now. The hidden service should be much easier to find than most hidden services.
So there is something that can be done? Are people doing this then?
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I'm sorry but this doesn't make any sense to me. If the issue is a bot attacking TOR why can i access pretty much any other hiddden service i want without any issue? I can connect and surf the forums with no trouble, I can visit various other tor services without any problems. I hate to say it but it looks to me that silkroad is being personally targeted somehow. Just my personal observation maybe someone can explain this to me.
Time to follow NW Nugz advice and break out the tin foil! wrap everything and I mean everything in foil including pets and you watch your SR connection fly at incredible speeds, try it mate you won't regret it.
Do some reading on the evolution of this botnet, it's been around for quite some time it seems and if everyone updates to the latest version of the TBB the issue will go away.
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I won't say a word LOL
But i will Grab NW and make them gimme a Hug :P
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...... and if everyone updates to the latest version of the TBB the issue will go away.
The stable TBB bundle is still the same realease as the old version...2.3.25-12, people need to look for the 2.4.17-beta -1 version, just to clarify.
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Thanks for the Hug offer, But, you might mess up my Tinfoil outfit. How about a raincheck? Once my giant MBBs arrive, I can make a durable aluminized poncho and slacks and be Huggable again :-)
I was kidding about the tinfoil hat in my tips for accessing SR when congestion is a problem. The staying on one tab and moving the mouse tips really work for me though. I have not tried the tinfoiling everything strategy. If that works, I think samesamebutdifferent deserves the credit for that tip :-)
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It has been rough these past few weeks. But what did help for me was a fresh install of tor and just hitting the " new identity" button whenever it starts to slow and it speeds right back up.
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Time to follow NW Nugz advice and break out the tin foil! wrap everything and I mean everything in foil including pets and you watch your SR connection fly at incredible speeds, try it mate you won't regret it.
Do some reading on the evolution of this botnet, it's been around for quite some time it seems and if everyone updates to the latest version of the TBB the issue will go away.
The conspiracy has been while the botnet was in full force multiple other darknet sites like Atlantis were "working" ( although considerably slower ) while Silk Road effectively was not, no point in arguing that point further it seems as the official line appears to be Silk Road handled this just as well as other sites which was just not the case.
Personally I'll just guess it was the amount of traffic this time, which Silk Road has proved again and again they're not very good at handling in large amounts. The TOR network gets the blame as always but I'm suspecting it's some other factor at play here as well...
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Time to follow NW Nugz advice and break out the tin foil! wrap everything and I mean everything in foil including pets and you watch your SR connection fly at incredible speeds, try it mate you won't regret it.
Do some reading on the evolution of this botnet, it's been around for quite some time it seems and if everyone updates to the latest version of the TBB the issue will go away.
The conspiracy has been while the botnet was in full force multiple other darknet sites like Atlantis were "working" ( although considerably slower ) while Silk Road effectively was not, no point in arguing that point further it seems as the official line appears to be Silk Road handled this just as well as other sites which was just not the case.
Personally I'll just guess it was the amount of traffic this time, which Silk Road has proved again and again they're not very good at handling in large amounts. The TOR network gets the blame as always but I'm suspecting it's some other factor at play here as well...
If this was true why are the tor devs talking about the tor network running slow etc if you claim its a SR problem?
I had been having troubles with all onion sites until i updated tor now all including SR work fine, so please explain your theory
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If this was true why are the tor devs talking about the tor network running slow etc if you claim its a SR problem?
I had been having troubles with all onion sites until i updated tor now all including SR work fine, so please explain your theory
I don't understand what you mean with "If this was true", I've never denied the botnet slowed all things on the TOR network down to a crawl. However the difference has been while most sites have been loading extremely slowly they have been working consistently at almost all times, it has just been a question of how long loading time. Silk Road on the other hand has been erratic during this whole ordeal and working at best roughly 10-20 % of the time, to then say Silk Road is performing exactly as well as all other sites is not something that should have to be explained as a theory. This is not some event that transpired many years ago, it's been happening the last week or so and there's also plenty of Information of Silk Road not being able to handle large traffic loads on previous occasions ( curiously Atlantis didn't have any problems during these periods either ).
Also I don't see saying things are running fine now is even remotely relevant, that is obviously because the problem to a large extent has been fixed by Relays updating their Client or simply using the new Experimental Version. My point in the end is Silk Road seems to have highly ineffective coding and it's not apparent until there's stress of some sort, ie. high load from many visitors or this botnet as example. Now Atlantis could be explained away previously with they didn't have the same amount of traffic as Silk Road, which was and still is true. However with this botnet problem that point doesn't stand any longer on it's own as it's absurd to claim some sites take more of a beating than others, and I have seen no admission Silk Road had any other problems than the botnet itself ( for example a DDoS attack from an unknown entity ). Can't have the cake and eat it too.
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wouldnt vpns do the trick?