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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: mike.murphy on April 01, 2012, 10:07 pm
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I talked to my source today letting him know where all this L is going. Since he's pretty confident I can move whatever amount he gives me, he's agreed to front me some sheets to help me out and get things rolling in here.
They would be 100ug fluff WoW. $550 per sheet fully within escrow. If you want to work out a deal on quantity, hit me up.
I can have them in my hands by this evening if there is interest. I don't really want to take 10k of product and not be confident I can sell it all.
Let me know people.
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Interested if you can get a trusted review first..
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I talked to my source today letting him know where all this L is going. Since he's pretty confident I can move whatever amount he gives me, he's agreed to front me some sheets to help me out and get things rolling in here.
They would be 100ug fluff WoW. $550 per sheet fully within escrow. If you want to work out a deal on quantity, hit me up.
I can have them in my hands by this evening if there is interest. I don't really want to take 10k of product and not be confident I can sell it all.
Let me know people.
Dude, they will sell.
Absolutely NO DOUBT about this :)
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Hit me up when you get a chance, preferably through SR. My account got hacked last night and I lost a good amount of BTC. Opened a new one this morning with a few peeps. I want to get this new information to you.
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they will definitely sell. theres a drought and thats a fairly reasonable price for SR. Youre domestic too, so thats a plus. and if u could do half sheets for 300, that would be great as well.
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Interested if you can get a trusted review first..
Just went through 2 sheets of the stuff by the ten strip a few weeks ago. Same batch as those, just look at my user page for reviews;)
I am grabbing them tonight and they will be up for sale by tomorrow. I will also list the halfs for $300 as requested. I think this is more than fair for me having to ship twice the packs should everyone opt for half sheets.
I will have about 20 sheets available this first run. Only when everyone has finalized and the funds have been transferred to cash can I get more. They are all on front and they must all be paid for before I can get more. Once everyone gets their stuff and finalizes there will only be a 48 hour wait for a restock. This guy always has sheets, he just now made them available to me in such a way that I can offer them here. I'm hoping this will be a good venture for us here on SR, the quality is good and they are almost always around.
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Okay my guy wants his money by Friday the 13th (odd date I know). I will run these sheets as 2 large group buys but it will all be in escrow.
All this means for you is that you must wait until 10 sheets are sold then I ship the first round, then I repeat the process for the other 10 sheets.
I am doing this because my guy only deals in ten packs and if I were to have to give him back some product I'd rather it be a round number for him. This being said, I'd anticipate the first 10 sheets to go within 3-4 days at the most, so don't expect a huge wait for your shipping. Everything is going via priority with DCN, I will provide dcn's for all buyers as well when the shipments are made.
If for some odd reason the first 10 sheets don't get sold, I'll just cancel all orders and there's no harm because I hedge my BTC so you'll get back the same amount you put in.
I have the paper in my hands now, I will be testing it tonight with a group of friends and will put up the listings when I know everything is ok.
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April fools? ???
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So 10 pack group buy at $550 USD a sheet????? I am having a wonder at how much you guys are paying IRL...
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This dude is GOLDEN :D
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April fools? ???
I'd assume not ???
So 10 pack group buy at $550 USD a sheet????? I am having a wonder at how much you guys are paying IRL...
Out of that $5500, $4750 would go back to my guy. I don't think this is an unfair commission for my work. 15.7% increase in price when SR takes 8ish and I have to pay to cash out as well. Also these are on FRONT, the price is increased from what my cash prices would be ;)
If you can do better, please bring it to the table, I will buy from you when I get my money right ;)
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murphy you've got a message from me in your SR account!
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murphy you've got a message from me in your SR account!
likewise ;)
everyone in my house is tripping balls from these tabs, all 8 people. they are the same ones I had a few weeks back it's confirmed 8)
I would put up listings now but my people are starting to question why I'm on the computer so I'll just do it tomorrow sometime;)
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April fools? ???
I'd assume not ???
So 10 pack group buy at $550 USD a sheet????? I am having a wonder at how much you guys are paying IRL...
Out of that $5500, $4750 would go back to my guy. I don't think this is an unfair commission for my work. 15.7% increase in price when SR takes 8ish and I have to pay to cash out as well. Also these are on FRONT, the price is increased from what my cash prices would be ;)
If you can do better, please bring it to the table, I will buy from you when I get my money right ;)
Hmph. fair enough.
maybe shortly soon ;)
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Pretty interested in this. PM'd you, murphy
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I would buy some if you are willing to ship to EU.
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Worldwide shipping but for international customers I require early finalization because I do not take any of the customs risk.
Listings go up tonight when I get some time.
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Hell yeah I'm definitely interested!
Just pm'd you :D
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Ill be all over this FOR SURE. I'll be back with a review. Might grab a kit for this as well.
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Ill be all over this FOR SURE. I'll be back with a review. Might grab a kit for this as well.
When I get my camera back in an hour or so I'll pop a tab in a test kit and throw up the results along with the listings :)
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Will there be an added shipping cost? I just got my bitcoins in and only have 557 USD and change. Hoping thats enough for this listing, I really want this.
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I would also be interested most likely in the second round once I gather the necessary funds 8)
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Will there be an added shipping cost? I just got my bitcoins in and only have 557 USD and change. Hoping thats enough for this listing, I really want this.
Shipping included 8) and I'll make you a custom listing if your just a few bucks short. people staying in escrow will obviously be charged SR fees, I can't avoid this, sorry guys.
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Yesssssssssssss, I saw that you were selling ten strips and was hoping you would go on to selling sheets. This makes me incredibly happy. I just have to wait fro SKYY's package to make it then I'll be able to afford it asap.
If this is successful, will you be able to continue selling sheets? and is this limited to blotter? I saw you were selling microdots and was interested in those (never had em before), but would definitely prefer 100 blotter to 100 microdots.
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If all is well with the first 20 then there will be more. Sheet only, no dots. I don't know of anyone in production of those right now.
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Hey mike I'm a vendor on here also and a hardcore deadhead never miss a furthur show. If you and your guy are in norcal maybe we can meet up because I'm pretty sure we know the same people if he's a head and I have a friend in mendo that sells grams for a good price. I normally get my sheets for $350 each and price breaks on ten packs and grams. So if your interested I go to SF all the time to visit friends and to go to the temple for the ritual Thursdays if you wanna chill and compare the WoW although I'm sure it's from the same people. Anyways glad to hear your keeping it real on the prices here, wish you the best
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Will there be an added shipping cost? I just got my bitcoins in and only have 557 USD and change. Hoping thats enough for this listing, I really want this.
Shipping included 8) and I'll make you a custom listing if your just a few bucks short. people staying in escrow will obviously be charged SR fees, I can't avoid this, sorry guys.
Its official. You are the man.
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Oh joy this sounds so great! Would defiantly jump all over this if funds were readily available especially with DCN + escrow! Mike I hope you have plenty of sheets to go around for a while!
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Hey mike I'm a vendor on here also and a hardcore deadhead never miss a furthur show. If you and your guy are in norcal maybe we can meet up because I'm pretty sure we know the same people if he's a head and I have a friend in mendo that sells grams for a good price. I normally get my sheets for $350 each and price breaks on ten packs and grams. So if your interested I go to SF all the time to visit friends and to go to the temple for the ritual Thursdays if you wanna chill and compare the WoW although I'm sure it's from the same people. Anyways glad to hear your keeping it real on the prices here, wish you the best
Bro, get at me for real. I'm not out that way >:( But I'd kill for a good IRL hookup on some Owsley rock :o I'll be out there for tour this summer hopefully so we may see each other anyhow. I'd love to even be able to buy one sheet for $350. My price on one sheet is $600 >:(
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Just placed the order Mr. Murphy. Very excited to see what you have in store. Also THANK YOU for lowering the total price to $550, you have seriously made my day/week. Finalizing early is a little scary, but I'm ready and willing.
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Listings are up, go get 'em guys. Official rules are:
Each sheet will be shipped via priority with DCN. EARLY FINALIZATION REQUIRED.
I spoke with my source again and this is the only way he feels comfortable doing this. Most sellers require this for such large listings anyhow.
I am sorry to have to do this, but this is the way I must operate to make sure my supplier will keep fronting me.
All packs will go out individually now, not like the GB as originally planned, as they are being finalized individually there is no need to wait for a certain amount to be sold.
I've also lowered the price to make it $550 including SR fees and shipping, my source negotiated a slightly cheaper price since I will be able to get him the cash quicker and I told him nobody would go for out of escrow so he wouldn't be able to let SR charge fees on top of that.
Get them while they last currently 20 available.
I popped a tab in a reagent test and that is in the picture as well.
We all know what that lovely purple color in the reagent test means;)
sheet listing:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/a2670c88e0
half sheet listing:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/bf855c903a
Get it now!!! Already 1 sheet gone, 19 more remain.
@randomly PM me if you're ok with new terms, price went down a few bones also.
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Just placed the order Mr. Murphy. Very excited to see what you have in store. Also THANK YOU for lowering the total price to $550, you have seriously made my day/week. Finalizing early is a little scary, but I'm ready and willing.
No problem, I told my supplier that's the only way we could get people to finalize early was with a bit of a discount.
I hate doing it this way, but at least I won't be owing him for product that I can't pay for which is what he wants to avoid. I'd rather not have people wanting to kill me over their money;)
DCN will be given within 48 hours of any order being placed.
Looking forward to becoming your alls go to guy.
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Just placed the order Mr. Murphy. Very excited to see what you have in store. Also THANK YOU for lowering the total price to $550, you have seriously made my day/week. Finalizing early is a little scary, but I'm ready and willing.
No problem, I told my supplier that's the only way we could get people to finalize early was with a bit of a discount.
I hate doing it this way, but at least I won't be owing him for product that I can't pay for which is what he wants to avoid. I'd rather not have people wanting to kill me over their money;)
DCN will be given within 48 hours of any order being placed.
Looking forward to becoming your alls go to guy.
Sounds good to me, man. Just don't go all "PaythePiper" on us! Haha, just joking.
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..think I'd make out better to stay around and serve you L fiends ;)
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Especially when all those around me will finally see what real fluff is like. They'll be begging me for more tabs.
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BUMP
also forgot to mention Lucy can swim across the pond. INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING!!!
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ouch man... Honestly, i gotta think about it now... I'm not really keen on FE, that was one of the main reasons i got on board. :-(
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Hey mike I'm a vendor on here also and a hardcore deadhead never miss a furthur show. If you and your guy are in norcal maybe we can meet up because I'm pretty sure we know the same people if he's a head and I have a friend in mendo that sells grams for a good price. I normally get my sheets for $350 each and price breaks on ten packs and grams. So if your interested I go to SF all the time to visit friends and to go to the temple for the ritual Thursdays if you wanna chill and compare the WoW although I'm sure it's from the same people. Anyways glad to hear your keeping it real on the prices here, wish you the best
Bro, get at me for real. I'm not out that way >:( But I'd kill for a good IRL hookup on some Owsley rock :o I'll be out there for tour this summer hopefully so we may see each other anyhow. I'd love to even be able to buy one sheet for $350. My price on one sheet is $600 >:(
yea man I'm in SF all the time since I grew up there. Normally only go for dead/furthur shows and psychedelic trance and dubstep parties now but whenever your about to go hit me up. We can meet up and hang out for a few days and party. Yea dude I'm doing a lot of east coast shows and all the ones at the beacon if your in the east coast? Hey I don't really want to step on your guys toes but maybe after you sell what you have of his I can front you some sheets to sell here on SR at lower prices than your friend so you can sell them even lower here... just a thought. Just decided I want to get some bulk because it seems like SR his low on domestic L vendors, PEACE brother!
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Listings are up, go get 'em guys. Official rules are:
Each sheet will be shipped via priority with DCN. EARLY FINALIZATION REQUIRED.
I spoke with my source again and this is the only way he feels comfortable doing this. Most sellers require this for such large listings anyhow.
I am sorry to have to do this, but this is the way I must operate to make sure my supplier will keep fronting me.
All packs will go out individually now, not like the GB as originally planned, as they are being finalized individually there is no need to wait for a certain amount to be sold.
I've also lowered the price to make it $550 including SR fees and shipping, my source negotiated a slightly cheaper price since I will be able to get him the cash quicker and I told him nobody would go for out of escrow so he wouldn't be able to let SR charge fees on top of that.
Get them while they last currently 20 available.
I popped a tab in a reagent test and that is in the picture as well.
We all know what that lovely purple color in the reagent test means;)
sheet listing:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/a2670c88e0
half sheet listing:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/bf855c903a
Get it now!!! Already 1 sheet gone, 19 more remain.
@randomly PM me if you're ok with new terms, price went down a few bones also.
mike couldn't agree more. Require FE for those amounts. There are more buyers here than sellers and sellers think they should be trusted more than a vendor when they're are way more scam sellers than vendors and they don't have to pay for their accounts. As long as you throw a DCN# on it you should do very well my friend!
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If i can get the coin before they sell out im in for a full sheet. i swear the sheet porn on the full sheet listing had me just about losing it.
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@randomly: i hear that, my guy is being a bitch,i'm sorry. he didn't know of escrow and when he asked why the money would take so long I explained it to him. he isn't keen on it:( buyers don't like FE, sellers who fronted product don't like escrow :(
@usdirect: i'll give these sheets to my guy back and get yours if you're spreading it cheaper :o get at me if you get some for real.
@pazure. no worry on selling out just yet, only 2.5 spoken for as of now. The finalizing early is killing me :-[
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Well I hope to receive the sheet soon so I can confirm your legitimacy on the matter. I will be sure to alert the thread when it arrives, and I'll either take a few tabs or hand some out to see how people like them. I'll keep everyone posted, as I believe I'm the first guinea pig in this purchase.
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Also, why has your rating plummeted a bit, mike? Two orders said you have cancelled on the buyers. Everything cool with the sheets? ???
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^ yeah I had to cancel 2 xanax orders becaus e I was out of stock. Locals are eating more bars than food this month;)
Sheets are all systems go still. Peace
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Strange how in your listing it states you require early finalization while here it says you use full escrow!
Seems sketchy if you ask me you only have like 28 transactions.
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Strange how in your listing it states you require early finalization while here it says you use full escrow!
Seems sketchy if you ask me you only have like 28 transactions.
Well, to be fair, he did mention that originally, but it seemed he talked to his supplier who would allow individual sheets to go out instead of the original group buy option he had if people finalized early. The number of transactions is a little worrying, but Mike.Murphy has been keeping in touch and has sent strips to other members who enjoyed his product, saying it was the quality seen in other top vendors. The truth will reveal itself later this week when my sheet arrives in the mail. You all will be the first to know. I have faith in Mike.
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When Lucy is mind skull fucking your brains out this weekend you will see.
First round of orders goes out FRIDAY!!! expect a DCN by Friday night for anyone ordering by early Friday morning. I will pack every order I can before work Friday and get them all out. I'd expect for some people to be seeing packs by Monday. Everyone was reporting 2-3 day shipping last round of orders 8)
7.5 sheets down folks. Help me sell out before Friday and I'll only have to make one drop 8) 8)
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Placed and finalized my order for a half sheet! bought a quarter sheet a few weeks back off mike, was beautiful shit and bestowed trust for mike in me. Now I just wait for more of his delicious lucy!
Thanks Mike
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Ordered a half-sheet. Really good communication by Mike, I have a good feeling about this :)
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Cant wait for the first reviews!
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Ok all you acid heads. 1/4 sheets are up by popular demand. $180 includes SR fees and shipping. 8)
go get it fuckers;)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c22a67a80e
ALSO TO CLEAR THIS UP:
SHEET=100 HITS
1/2 SHEET=50 HITS
1/4 SHEET=25 HITS
I'm trying to sell out by tomorrow so I can only make one drop for all these packs, hopefully some will jump on the 1/4 sheet listing that have been asking for them.
peace <3 Lucy
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Just placed my order. Hope this counts for the first drop! Mike, as soon as you process it I'll finalize it; just give me the go ahead man!
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This DCN can't come soooooooon enough :). Also, was the other thread in the Rumor Mill deleted? Looked for it but couldn't seem to find it. Trying my best to be patient, but I gotta be honest, I'm a little nervous/antsy. Hoping for a DCN later today and a letter in my mailbox on tuesday (my guestimated time of arrival). I also can't wait to give this thread its definitive answer on authenticity.
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This DCN can't come soooooooon enough :). Also, was the other thread in the Rumor Mill deleted? Looked for it but couldn't seem to find it. Trying my best to be patient, but I gotta be honest, I'm a little nervous/antsy. Hoping for a DCN later today and a letter in my mailbox on tuesday (my guestimated time of arrival). I also can't wait to give this thread its definitive answer on authenticity.
I didn't delete the thread but I couldn't find it the other day either...
Anyway an old bud from OVDB popped over and told me about a vunerability with giving this many DCN's at once. The DCN's are nearly sequential, if I give them to all buyers, they could just change the last digit of the DCN and be checking on other folks' packs as well. I do not feel comfortable with this. If LEO even knew which main post office my stuff gets sorted through, they could watch me and I could be fucked by the second round of orders. Also, LEO could monitor the locations of the other buyers. I'm sure you all don't want this any more than I do. I still have all DCN's in my hand right now with user names so I know who's is what. If by the 4th shipping day you haven't gotten your shipment, please PM me and I will check your DCN to see what the status is.
I didn't realize the vulnerability until he pointed this out to me, I don't know how I've been so blind my whole career.
No worries folks, they are going out as planned, I just gotta be greedy with the DCN's
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Thanks for the explanation mike! I look forward to the pack :)
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This DCN can't come soooooooon enough :). Also, was the other thread in the Rumor Mill deleted? Looked for it but couldn't seem to find it. Trying my best to be patient, but I gotta be honest, I'm a little nervous/antsy. Hoping for a DCN later today and a letter in my mailbox on tuesday (my guestimated time of arrival). I also can't wait to give this thread its definitive answer on authenticity.
I didn't delete the thread but I couldn't find it the other day either...
Anyway an old bud from OVDB popped over and told me about a vunerability with giving this many DCN's at once. The DCN's are nearly sequential, if I give them to all buyers, they could just change the last digit of the DCN and be checking on other folks' packs as well. I do not feel comfortable with this. If LEO even knew which main post office my stuff gets sorted through, they could watch me and I could be fucked by the second round of orders. Also, LEO could monitor the locations of the other buyers. I'm sure you all don't want this any more than I do. I still have all DCN's in my hand right now with user names so I know who's is what. If by the 4th shipping day you haven't gotten your shipment, please PM me and I will check your DCN to see what the status is.
I didn't realize the vulnerability until he pointed this out to me, I don't know how I've been so blind my whole career.
No worries folks, they are going out as planned, I just gotta be greedy with the DCN's
I've been watching this from the sidelines, and had my own thoughts but kept them to myself since you are a competing vendor and i didn't want it to look like i was trying to discredit someone by bringing up issues.. but now i feel it is my duty to say something
You did not even have 20 transactions under your belt here, and now you are raking in probably close to 10,000USD on early finalizations?
You made this thread advertising FULL ESCROW left and right, and now you are making people FE
You say you're going to give DCNs but now you're saying you cant give them out because its a security risk?
Pharmville was one of the top vendors here, and he was on top of his game, and he still gave out DCNs for every order. So it can't be that big of a security risk.
Saying for people to "wait 4 days" for your DCN's seems like trying to buy more time if this was a scam
I understand you were an old school person on OVDB, but that doesn't mean you should be taking in 10,000 USD in early finalizations , and going back on your word of offering full escrow and DCNs
Now there is no escrow and no DCNs
Please be careful people... Don't want to see another ForeverFamily incident.
If you are legit, and i hope you are for the sake of everyone on SR, i apologize. However you have to admit this looks VERY shady
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Tony, I feel it is my duty as a former customer of Mike to encourage you to do more research before saying things that aren't true. I COMPLETELY understand your intentions, and if the following things were not true, I'd be writing a post commending you for your actions.
Look through all of Mike's feedback on the market. You can see that all of his previous batches of L have updated feedback that confirms the arrival. Obviously, as he has stated his most recent batch has not shipped yet, so all we see is a bunch of "FE"'s. If you look closely at his feedback from his last batch, a couple people even mentioning finalizing early and that it all still arrived.
I have been a member of SR for 1 year now. Over 2 grand spent, over 30 transactions. I'm not bragging, as I'm absolutely positive that I'm not some 'super buyer' at all. However, I do have experience. I have experience with mike, from OVDB back when SR was even more scam-ridden than it is now.
I encourage everyone to research heavily before making claims that are unfounded. I've noticed that the public nature of this market encourages an outrageous amount of whistle-blowing from both vendors and buyers, as people who are not experienced in this trade (not referring to you tony) get easily spooked/worried and need reassurance that their product is coming. These people were not here for the days where you simply sent a WU to someone on the west coast and maybe a month later 100 hits of acid shows up. No communication, just mail. We should consider the fact that we can even be in contact with the main supply chain a blessing.
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This DCN can't come soooooooon enough :). Also, was the other thread in the Rumor Mill deleted? Looked for it but couldn't seem to find it. Trying my best to be patient, but I gotta be honest, I'm a little nervous/antsy. Hoping for a DCN later today and a letter in my mailbox on tuesday (my guestimated time of arrival). I also can't wait to give this thread its definitive answer on authenticity.
I didn't delete the thread but I couldn't find it the other day either...
Anyway an old bud from OVDB popped over and told me about a vunerability with giving this many DCN's at once. The DCN's are nearly sequential, if I give them to all buyers, they could just change the last digit of the DCN and be checking on other folks' packs as well. I do not feel comfortable with this. If LEO even knew which main post office my stuff gets sorted through, they could watch me and I could be fucked by the second round of orders. Also, LEO could monitor the locations of the other buyers. I'm sure you all don't want this any more than I do. I still have all DCN's in my hand right now with user names so I know who's is what. If by the 4th shipping day you haven't gotten your shipment, please PM me and I will check your DCN to see what the status is.
I didn't realize the vulnerability until he pointed this out to me, I don't know how I've been so blind my whole career.
No worries folks, they are going out as planned, I just gotta be greedy with the DCN's
I've been watching this from the sidelines, and had my own thoughts but kept them to myself since you are a competing vendor and i didn't want it to look like i was trying to discredit someone by bringing up issues.. but now i feel it is my duty to say something
You did not even have 20 transactions under your belt here, and now you are raking in probably close to 10,000USD on early finalizations?
You made this thread advertising FULL ESCROW left and right, and now you are making people FE
You say you're going to give DCNs but now you're saying you cant give them out because its a security risk?
Pharmville was one of the top vendors here, and he was on top of his game, and he still gave out DCNs for every order. So it can't be that big of a security risk.
Saying for people to "wait 4 days" for your DCN's seems like trying to buy more time if this was a scam
I understand you were an old school person on OVDB, but that doesn't mean you should be taking in 10,000 USD in early finalizations , and going back on your word of offering full escrow and DCNs
Now there is no escrow and no DCNs
Please be careful people... Don't want to see another ForeverFamily incident.
If you are legit, and i hope you are for the sake of everyone on SR, i apologize. However you have to admit this looks VERY shady
+1, this clown didn't even sell that much on OVDB (IIRC).
He might even be LEO, I bought some BTC from him yesterday and he has been asking for my address? What you gonna send the BTC to my house Murhpy? Did you even make right on those orders that went to shit on OVDB, somebody called you out on that like a week ago. ???
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Starting look like a serial scam. Jerry Garcia (previous week), Mike Murphy (this week), then USdirectforyou (next week). Jerry has Dreamer101 who calms people, Mike has that awesome234 guy, USdirect -> ???
Mike, send me my DCN through SR PM to prove that you really have sent something (I've ordered 1/2 sheet, same username there). I'll check it and let people know here.
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Murphy owes me for something from OVDB (though hopefully for not much longer) due to a misunderstanding, so I'm definitely *not* his straight man. According to his SOS page, Murphy made good on the other order that went to shit on OVDB, leaving just me. I'll be sure to let everyone know if he comes through. He says he's sending me 25, so we'll see. I'm cautiously hopeful.
Awesome 1126 is an OVDBer who bought from damn near everyone on that board. I doubt he and Murphy are in cahoots.
I guess my point is calm down. By Tuesday-ish of next week, we should all know for sure. (Of course, me telling you to calm down is easy when I don't have any money out, so I understand if you tell me to get bent.)
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Starting look like a serial scam. Jerry Garcia (previous week), Mike Murphy (this week), then USdirectforyou (next week). Jerry has Dreamer101 who calms people, Mike has that awesome234 guy, USdirect -> ???
Mike, send me my DCN through SR PM to prove that you really have sent something (I've ordered 1/2 sheet, same username there). I'll check it and let people know here.
Wish he would do this, but he will not. Already PM'd him for my individual DCN and as a "security measure", can't send any of us the DCN. He did say he would PM me tomorrow telling me the ETA of my order, but that's all he could do. I feel like I'm in purgatory. All these changes at the last moment have made me worry way more than I should. Positive thoughts...Must remain calm...
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Tony, I feel it is my duty as a former customer of Mike to encourage you to do more research before saying things that aren't true. I COMPLETELY understand your intentions, and if the following things were not true, I'd be writing a post commending you for your actions.
Look through all of Mike's feedback on the market. You can see that all of his previous batches of L have updated feedback that confirms the arrival. Obviously, as he has stated his most recent batch has not shipped yet, so all we see is a bunch of "FE"'s. If you look closely at his feedback from his last batch, a couple people even mentioning finalizing early and that it all still arrived.
I have been a member of SR for 1 year now. Over 2 grand spent, over 30 transactions. I'm not bragging, as I'm absolutely positive that I'm not some 'super buyer' at all. However, I do have experience. I have experience with mike, from OVDB back when SR was even more scam-ridden than it is now.
I encourage everyone to research heavily before making claims that are unfounded. I've noticed that the public nature of this market encourages an outrageous amount of whistle-blowing from both vendors and buyers, as people who are not experienced in this trade (not referring to you tony) get easily spooked/worried and need reassurance that their product is coming. These people were not here for the days where you simply sent a WU to someone on the west coast and maybe a month later 100 hits of acid shows up. No communication, just mail. We should consider the fact that we can even be in contact with the main supply chain a blessing.
I was very careful to not make any accusations in my post, as i have dealt with my fair share of false whistle-blowers whenever i've had a sale as well.
Please show me where i have made false accusations or unfounded claims. Everything i have written, to my knowledge, is fact and not speculation.
Started sale claiming FULL escrow to change to requiring early finalization = fact
Offering DCNs and then not offering DCNs = fact
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I am actually LEO ;) toker, I don't think I even asked for your addy bro. I'm looking through my messages now.
@people actually involved in purchasing from me:
My shipper dropped the packs off today. He is in a very central location to most. Most people were reporting seeing packs in 2 days with the last round of orders, some were 3 8)
I'm off the forums until reviews come in. no use in wasting my time. PEACE
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Wish he would do this, but he will not. Already PM'd him for my individual DCN and as a "security measure", can't send any of us the DCN. He did say he would PM me tomorrow telling me the ETA of my order, but that's all he could do. I feel like I'm in purgatory. All these changes at the last moment have made me worry way more than I should. Positive thoughts...Must remain calm...
Right, he will not. Just got a response from him "can't take risk". So well, nothing left to do just wait till the next week.
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I am actually LEO ;) toker, I don't think I even asked for your addy bro. I'm looking through my messages now.
@people actually involved in purchasing from me:
My shipper dropped the packs off today. He is in a very central location to most. Most people were reporting seeing packs in 2 days with the last round of orders, some were 3 8)
I'm off the forums until reviews come in. no use in wasting my time. PEACE
well said homebrew :)
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Starting look like a serial scam. Jerry Garcia (previous week), Mike Murphy (this week), then USdirectforyou (next week). Jerry has Dreamer101 who calms people, Mike has that awesome234 guy, USdirect -> ???
Mike, send me my DCN through SR PM to prove that you really have sent something (I've ordered 1/2 sheet, same username there). I'll check it and let people know here.
lol dude all I got to say is look at all my feedback from 300+ transactions on orders of $350 and up to $1000 on my SR page. I never said I wouldn't work out of escrow either. But you better have perfect stats and well over a few K spent before you think I'm going to send you a sheet in escrow domestic. ALL the people who purchase orders over $350 and up I made finalize and well look what they said. Look at how many ounce early FE feed backs I have that are updated and those where all for $950 and up. I just decided to sell L because the crazy prices and I got a good hook up. That being said I see your point
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Starting look like a serial scam. Jerry Garcia (previous week), Mike Murphy (this week), then USdirectforyou (next week). Jerry has Dreamer101 who calms people, Mike has that awesome234 guy, USdirect -> ???
Mike, send me my DCN through SR PM to prove that you really have sent something (I've ordered 1/2 sheet, same username there). I'll check it and let people know here.
lol dude all I got to say is look at all my feedback from 300+ transactions on orders of $350 and up to $1000 on my SR page. I never said I wouldn't work out of escrow either. But you better have perfect stats and well over a few K spent before you think I'm going to send you a sheet in escrow domestic. ALL the people who purchase orders over $350 and up I made finalize and well look what they said. Look at how many ounce early FE feed backs I have that are updated and those where all for $950 and up. I just decided to sell L because the crazy prices and I got a good hook up. That being said I see your point
wait bro, are you THEREALUSDIRECT?? or are you a different vendor?? I am confused
will you be offering the 475 sheets in full escrow??
what are the strength/ quality of the tabs/xtal??
thx
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Starting look like a serial scam. Jerry Garcia (previous week), Mike Murphy (this week), then USdirectforyou (next week). Jerry has Dreamer101 who calms people, Mike has that awesome234 guy, USdirect -> ???
Mike, send me my DCN through SR PM to prove that you really have sent something (I've ordered 1/2 sheet, same username there). I'll check it and let people know here.
lol dude all I got to say is look at all my feedback from 300+ transactions on orders of $350 and up to $1000 on my SR page. I never said I wouldn't work out of escrow either. But you better have perfect stats and well over a few K spent before you think I'm going to send you a sheet in escrow domestic. ALL the people who purchase orders over $350 and up I made finalize and well look what they said. Look at how many ounce early FE feed backs I have that are updated and those where all for $950 and up. I just decided to sell L because the crazy prices and I got a good hook up. That being said I see your point
wait bro, are you THEREALUSDIRECT?? or are you a different vendor?? I am confused
will you be offering the 475 sheets in full escrow??
what are the strength/ quality of the tabs/xtal??
thx
Yes I'm THEREALUSdirect just different name on here. Yes I would offer $475 in escrow but like I said you better have very good stats. No refund rate, no auto finalizations, and spent well over a few K here on SR and must be domestic. They are all WoW from California. Next week I will only be selling 10 strips, quarter sheets, and half sheets at the most for 3 weeks so I can have many people try it rather than have people trying to buy me out with a bunch of sheets and when all the feed back comes in I will be offering full sheets and 10 packs with great price breaks.
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Starting look like a serial scam. Jerry Garcia (previous week), Mike Murphy (this week), then USdirectforyou (next week). Jerry has Dreamer101 who calms people, Mike has that awesome234 guy, USdirect -> ???
Mike, send me my DCN through SR PM to prove that you really have sent something (I've ordered 1/2 sheet, same username there). I'll check it and let people know here.
lol dude all I got to say is look at all my feedback from 300+ transactions on orders of $350 and up to $1000 on my SR page. I never said I wouldn't work out of escrow either. But you better have perfect stats and well over a few K spent before you think I'm going to send you a sheet in escrow domestic. ALL the people who purchase orders over $350 and up I made finalize and well look what they said. Look at how many ounce early FE feed backs I have that are updated and those where all for $950 and up. I just decided to sell L because the crazy prices and I got a good hook up. That being said I see your point
wait bro, are you THEREALUSDIRECT?? or are you a different vendor?? I am confused
will you be offering the 475 sheets in full escrow??
what are the strength/ quality of the tabs/xtal??
thx
Also the strength is standard California WoW 100ug and very very clean
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This DCN can't come soooooooon enough :). Also, was the other thread in the Rumor Mill deleted? Looked for it but couldn't seem to find it. Trying my best to be patient, but I gotta be honest, I'm a little nervous/antsy. Hoping for a DCN later today and a letter in my mailbox on tuesday (my guestimated time of arrival). I also can't wait to give this thread its definitive answer on authenticity.
I didn't delete the thread but I couldn't find it the other day either...
Anyway an old bud from OVDB popped over and told me about a vunerability with giving this many DCN's at once. The DCN's are nearly sequential, if I give them to all buyers, they could just change the last digit of the DCN and be checking on other folks' packs as well. I do not feel comfortable with this. If LEO even knew which main post office my stuff gets sorted through, they could watch me and I could be fucked by the second round of orders. Also, LEO could monitor the locations of the other buyers. I'm sure you all don't want this any more than I do. I still have all DCN's in my hand right now with user names so I know who's is what. If by the 4th shipping day you haven't gotten your shipment, please PM me and I will check your DCN to see what the status is.
I didn't realize the vulnerability until he pointed this out to me, I don't know how I've been so blind my whole career.
No worries folks, they are going out as planned, I just gotta be greedy with the DCN's
I've been watching this from the sidelines, and had my own thoughts but kept them to myself since you are a competing vendor and i didn't want it to look like i was trying to discredit someone by bringing up issues.. but now i feel it is my duty to say something
You did not even have 20 transactions under your belt here, and now you are raking in probably close to 10,000USD on early finalizations?
You made this thread advertising FULL ESCROW left and right, and now you are making people FE
You say you're going to give DCNs but now you're saying you cant give them out because its a security risk?
Pharmville was one of the top vendors here, and he was on top of his game, and he still gave out DCNs for every order. So it can't be that big of a security risk.
Saying for people to "wait 4 days" for your DCN's seems like trying to buy more time if this was a scam
I understand you were an old school person on OVDB, but that doesn't mean you should be taking in 10,000 USD in early finalizations , and going back on your word of offering full escrow and DCNs
Now there is no escrow and no DCNs
Please be careful people... Don't want to see another ForeverFamily incident.
If you are legit, and i hope you are for the sake of everyone on SR, i apologize. However you have to admit this looks VERY shady
No offense MM but tony makes a very valid point. I really hope he is wrong but one thing that I noticed also is I quote you "If LEO even knew which main post office my stuff gets sorted through, they could watch me and I could be fucked by the second round of orders" which made it seem as you where going to ship them and wanted to ship at once all 20 sheets to minimize the risk of you getting caught but than later you post and I quote" My shipper dropped the packs off today" which makes it seem like you are now saying someone else is shipping them. It doesn't add up to me but I hope your legit because like we talked on PM I'd like to work with you. I apologize sincerely if I'm making you look bad if you're not a scammer but like tony said it seems shady and well tony called out obamagirl as a scammer and was right and saved many people money, so don't take offense to what he said cause he is just trying to look out for the buyers from getting scammed. Anyways we will know by next week and well I hope all goes good for everyone involved.
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I was very careful to not make any accusations in my post, as i have dealt with my fair share of false whistle-blowers whenever i've had a sale as well.
Please show me where i have made false accusations or unfounded claims. Everything i have written, to my knowledge, is fact and not speculation.
Started sale claiming FULL escrow to change to requiring early finalization = fact
Offering DCNs and then not offering DCNs = fact
Tony makes some really valid points- Things that certainly crossed my mind as I was watching from the sidelines... wasn't going to bring it up, just curious how it was going to pan out.
At this point I don't believe mike is necessarily a scammer, but it comes down to the fact he's pulling some sneaky/dishonest shit... He may have his reasons, but it simply should have been clear from the beginning how it was going down- Not changing the terms last minute, requiring people to finalize when he said would be in escrow and THEN withholding DCN when he promised that would be provided... Just not the way to do business.
*As an aside: Tony AND Mike (and USdirectforyou since you're jumping on the bandwagon)- FUCK EARLY FINALIZE for blotter... Just treat it like any other transaction, let people stay in escrow and the nay-sayers will have nothing to bitch about.
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I was very careful to not make any accusations in my post, as i have dealt with my fair share of false whistle-blowers whenever i've had a sale as well.
Please show me where i have made false accusations or unfounded claims. Everything i have written, to my knowledge, is fact and not speculation.
Started sale claiming FULL escrow to change to requiring early finalization = fact
Offering DCNs and then not offering DCNs = fact
Tony makes some really valid points- Things that certainly crossed my mind as I was watching from the sidelines... wasn't going to bring it up, just curious how it was going to pan out.
At this point I don't believe mike is necessarily a scammer, but it comes down to the fact he's pulling some sneaky/dishonest shit... He may have his reasons, but it simply should have been clear from the beginning how it was going down- Not changing the terms last minute, requiring people to finalize when he said would be in escrow and THEN withholding DCN when he promised that would be provided... Just not the way to do business.
*As an aside: Tony AND Mike (and USdirectforyou since you're jumping on the bandwagon)- FUCK EARLY FINALIZE for blotter... Just treat it like any other transaction, let people stay in escrow and the nay-sayers will have nothing to bitch about.
What do you mean by bandwagon? just noticing things that don't add up. I think he will come through but I think he might have made people FE early to get the money to buy it which would delay the orders. Also I never said I won't stay in escrow, but like I said you better be domestic and have damn good stats. Also it's easy for you to say fuck FE for blotter but when you have someone with under ten buys that has only spent like $300 on Sr and is trying to stay in escrow for a $475 purchase you better believe you will have to FE. Why should the vendors have to take all the risk? There is about 350+ vendors here and about 25000 buyers so there is obviously more scam buyers than vendors. I see to many buyers that feel they should be trusted more than vendors when they're are WAY more scam buyers than vendors.
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I thought about it and I'm coming to end some speculation.
First of all tony, you require FE on sheets and halfs as well, so kindly fuck off sir.
Second, I did change the terms of the sale, BUT, I made it clear to anyone that wanted in before I even put the listings up that the terms were changing. 2 days before the listings went up I made everyone aware of this, it's not like I changed the terms of the sale at the last second then threw up my listings right after that. I did this to allow people to weigh the risks before participating. I had the sheets in my hands for 3 days before I listed them on SR.
Lastly, if I was trying to scam, I would of said I had at least 100 sheets and priced them way cheaper so more people would of gotten in on it. ;)
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SCAMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!! END OF STORY
ASSHOLE JUST STOLE 2 $500 MONEY PACKS FROM ME. :'( ALSO SAID HE WAS SELLING HIS COINS AT 95% OF MTGOX RATE. WATCH OUT FOR THIS GUY.
IDK IF HE'S SCAMMING ON LUCY BUT I HOPE NOT
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Well, we know nothing for sure, until we get the first delivery reports, or the first no-delivery-after a-long-time reports.
There is nothing we could do anyway, do we?
Mike, i guess it's normal to have speculations about a vendor, if some signs might hint on a scam...
And when your tone get's rougher, the trust in you lowers...
Of course this "hurts" your reputation, but you have a chance to prove them all wrong. Until then, expect a decline in orders, this is a very natural thing for a somewhat new vendor here.
Once all the orders have been delivered, you'll get the public "trusted"-tag. And then you can resume your selling at full capacity again.
Hoping for the best.
Cheers
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Damn toker 420... thats sucks im sorry. I hope this is just a misunderstanding and he still intends to send you your bitcoins.
If not that is just downright wrong. People shouldnt be stealing other peoples hard earned money like that.
Hope all goes well
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I thought about it and I'm coming to end some speculation.
First of all tony, you require FE on sheets and halfs as well, so kindly fuck off sir.
Second, I did change the terms of the sale, BUT, I made it clear to anyone that wanted in before I even put the listings up that the terms were changing. 2 days before the listings went up I made everyone aware of this, it's not like I changed the terms of the sale at the last second then threw up my listings right after that. I did this to allow people to weigh the risks before participating. I had the sheets in my hands for 3 days before I listed them on SR.
I had the sheets in my hands for 3 days before I listed them on SR.
ALL THE MORE REASON YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID IT BEFORE YOU DID! You knew we were exchanging money, some of use well over 1k, now I've got FUCK ALL to show for my lost fees. Changing terms of transaction is not necessarily a scam move, but it's a dick move. Sorry. Yes, the aspie is actually mad.
Damn, toker... that SUCKS! If toker says this, i believe him 100%, until such time as he says it was a misunderstanding.
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I am interested.
Mike Murphy legit. Got 4 WoW from him that were bombb! Thanks!
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Toker's got some seriously bad luck here lately, I dunno why he would even use this new guy for MP/BTC exchanges.
I have to give him props though, he DID figure out the whole FamilyForever fiasco early on... even if it was a little early for someone like myself to raise any flags.
Anyhow Murphy... don't get all upset. If you're legit take care of business and people will see your actions speak louder than detractors words. And take care of Toker's BTC issue. He's a loud mutha and will try to sink you if you fuck him.
;D
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Toker's got some seriously bad luck here lately, I dunno why he would even use this new guy for MP/BTC exchanges.
I have to give him props though, he DID figure out the whole FamilyForever fiasco early on... even if it was a little early for someone like myself to raise any flags.
Anyhow Murphy... don't get all upset. If you're legit take care of business and people will see your actions speak louder than detractors words. And take care of Toker's BTC issue. He's a loud mutha and will try to sink you if you fuck him.
;D
Toker always has bad luck, been getting shit on since i was knee high to a grasshopper ;) I don't know which event you're talking about though, I've been off forums for a little bit. :-\
Murphy, you better make this shit right, I will ruin your rep and probably come find your ass if given the chance.
The FamilyForever fiasco I saw coming from day one, really just was looking out for other people's best interest. I made a lot of enemies calling that guy out even though he was fucking people in the ass hard. Since that, I decided to just keep my opinions on scammers to myself but I can't let one like this go after he just got me for a grand.
Bottom line is Murphy I will find your bitch ass, and when I do you better hope you have a grand or I'm taking it out ya ass.
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Why exchange $1000, out of escrow with someone on SR that has never made a reported transaction and all his feedback says finalize early, your not doing yourself any favors and if not ripped off by this vendor its bound to happen at some stage. Anyway hope it works out for you in this case but after reading this reading I have my doubts.
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To be fair, aren't all money exchanging transactions done out of escrow. And, when you exchanged $2000 with him less than 48 hours ago, the stage sets itself for some trust.
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To be fair to MM, When I first started a lot of people where calling me a scam because of my prices and even a mod had it out for me. The toker situation doesn't look for if he cashed it out but also toker how long ago did he cash it out? I say let just wait til next week and I hope everyone's minds are blown away by his cid
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To be fair to MM, When I first started a lot of people where calling me a scam because of my prices and even a mod had it out for me. The toker situation doesn't look for if he cashed it out but also toker how long ago did he cash it out? I say let just wait til next week and I hope everyone's minds are blown away by his cid
Agreed. I feel we are expecting a lot from a new vendor who is dealing with a large influx of orders. All I hope is that the products he guaranteed are delivered.
Maybe he has real life shit to deal with. I'm not psychic. Just don't go bonkers because he didn't answer your PM in a day. Things take time. So, I wait.
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This stealth mode stuff seems pretty shady, did he post anything about it?
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GUYS, I GOT MY BTC... along with an apology from murphy 8) He even threw in some extra for the wait.
Sorry to get you guys all stirred up that are buying his Lucy. :-[
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GUYS, I GOT MY BTC... along with an apology from murphy 8) He even threw in some extra for the wait.
Sorry to get you guys all stirred up that are buying his Lucy. :-[
See what patience can do? Anyways, I'm looking forward to my half sheet :) Anyone know if there's gonna be mail delays because of easter?
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GUYS, I GOT MY BTC... along with an apology from murphy 8) He even threw in some extra for the wait.
Sorry to get you guys all stirred up that are buying his Lucy. :-[
See what patience can do? Anyways, I'm looking forward to my half sheet :) Anyone know if there's gonna be mail delays because of easter?
My understanding is that the sorting/processing hubs of USPS are open and do operate on Sunday. If these hubs were closed today then this may be possible.
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I doubt they are closed. Postal employees right now aren't really rooting for more off days... Powers that be may figure that shutting down sundays could save em a bundle and there goes another whole round of layoffs!
And good toker. i hope everything works out for you MM.
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GUYS, I GOT MY BTC... along with an apology from murphy 8) He even threw in some extra for the wait.
Sorry to get you guys all stirred up that are buying his Lucy. :-[
awesome to hear toker and good job MM! SLBNWPWGSAWBISOI
sound like by next week people will get served and w b in shock over it, the lsd I mean can't wait to hear the reviews
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getting some lucy soon will report on quality from Mike
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I ordered 1/2 sheet, but no DCN yet. Anyone know what is the ETA for east coast??
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If you check the thread you'll see mike has stated why he didn't give out DCN's.
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I'm waiting to see updates,if any of u guys have got your order,please update here.thx :)
@ USdirect;
Please bring down that $475 / 100 pcs & ship them internationals,im sure that we can work out something. 8)
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today should be the day of arrival?! right?
I am so interested in in this fluff thing.
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today should be the day of arrival?! right?
I am so interested in in this fluff thing.
Yeap! Today and/or tomorrow. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!
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Nothing today for me either. Honestly, I was expecting Wednesday because of all the mail delays. Has anyone received? Any updates from Mike?
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Murphy has been selling off his coins at crazily low prices. Today he emailed me and said he'd let me get the rest of his BTC at 75% of mtgox rate.
I am more than happy to buy his coins at low prices if they are being deposited into my account like they should. I do however feel obligated to let you all know that he is doing this. the only way I'd be able to sell coins at 75% mtgox rate is if they were given to me.
I'd be wary of this guy until people start seeing packages.
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thanks for posting toker. that is sketchy ass fuck
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When he started offering the sheets he said he needed FE to be able to quickly pay his source, which is why the sheets are relatively cheap.
Maybe he needs the money ASAP to pay his source?
Waiting anyway....*sigh*
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Nothing in the mail for me either. Here's to hoping for tomorrow.
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I sent mike a message on the market, he got back to me within minutes and told me not to fear, they're coming! I asked him to post here just to reassure everyone, I trust this fellow, for better or for worse.
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When he started offering the sheets he said he needed FE to be able to quickly pay his source, which is why the sheets are relatively cheap.
Maybe he needs the money ASAP to pay his source?
Waiting anyway....*sigh*
One thing that really worries me about that, selling those btc for 75% of the exchange rate, is that it completely turns his sappy story of his profit margin to shit. I remember him saying he was only going to be netting about $50.00/sheet. If he's offloading BTC for that price he's either blatantly lying about his prices, which is whatever other than that it makes him a bullshitter and is pretty pathetic, or he's milking this community right now and there are a whole lot of people about to get very very angry...
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One thing I noticed when tony called him out and toker did the same he took his listing off. When toker got his coins and seemed to redeem MM and everyone got their hopes up again about maybe coming through he put his listing back up right away.... I thought he had to sell all 20 sheets first and ship all at once.... does that mean he restocked or trying to get more people to FE to milk this place.
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Also isn't it past 4 days now for DCN#'s to be released as he said he would... has anyone pm'd him for them today?
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Also isn't it past 4 days now for DCN#'s to be released as he said he would... has anyone pm'd him for them today?
Didn't he say he isn't releasing the DCN's because they are sequential and could/would reveal addresses of customers?
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Oh shit! Looks like the walls are caving in on ya' Murphy. Did you think I'd not report to all these kind folks that you were off loading their BTC like nobody's business?
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Oh shit! Looks like the walls are caving in on ya' Murphy. Did you think I'd not report to all these kind folks that you were off loading their BTC like nobody's business?
How many times is this going to happen before we stop funding the scammers?
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Im losing faith in this place. Its too bad people do dirty things like stealing peoples money like that. :-\
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guys, the postal system was shut down on friday, for Good Friday, and on Monday, for Easter Monday. Also, in canada, mail does not move anywher eon sundays, and it moves from hub to hub on saturdays, but does not get delivered.
calm down and wait until wednesday or thursday.
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Postal service ran on both Friday and Monday.
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I smell a shitstorm a-brewin... Glad I saved my BTC for Tony.
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Postal service ran on both Friday and Monday.
yeah, but only for surface mail...
sorters blahblahblah weren't in operation...
tomorrow is the day? :)
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okay...
Postal service ran on both Friday and Monday.
yeah, but only for surface mail...
sorters blahblahblah weren't in operation...
tomorrow is the day? :)
First of all, GDF Fluff within itself is almost at the top of the LSD purity chain right under needlepoint.
Second, somehow his prices are somehow lower than other vendors' when he could just compete with them at the same price seeing how GDF Fluff is considered better than what Tony has... that's what a real businessman would do.
Third, this guy is selling all his BTC away for 75% of mt. gox value, despite his low prices. So he's getting $375/sheet at that rate, which is completely ludicrous even for bulk buys of GDF fluff
Do you really like false hope or are you just transitioning to your eventual disappointment?
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I've gotten orders from Can this week, right when expected, didn't notice any Easter delays...and didn't mm look up a couple people's DCN's for them (because apparently they couldn't be trusted with them) and if I remember correctly he told them it would be Tuesday for sure. I could understand a lot of people seeing delays, but if not ONE single person has gotten anything today I'd say those are pretty bad odds. good luck. glad I already learned to not FE on deals that seemed too good to be true or I'd be out a lot of money right now.
When Lucy is mind skull fucking your brains out this weekend you will see.
First round of orders goes out FRIDAY!!! expect a DCN by Friday night for anyone ordering by early Friday morning. I will pack every order I can before work Friday and get them all out. I'd expect for some people to be seeing packs by Monday. Everyone was reporting 2-3 day shipping last round of orders 8)
7.5 sheets down folks. Help me sell out before Friday and I'll only have to make one drop 8) 8)
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guys, the postal system was shut down on friday, for Good Friday, and on Monday, for Easter Monday. Also, in canada, mail does not move anywher eon sundays, and it moves from hub to hub on saturdays, but does not get delivered.
calm down and wait until wednesday or thursday.
no they didn't I shipped on those days and tracking showed up as processed and sorted out
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guys, the postal system was shut down on friday, for Good Friday, and on Monday, for Easter Monday. Also, in canada, mail does not move anywher eon sundays, and it moves from hub to hub on saturdays, but does not get delivered.
calm down and wait until wednesday or thursday.
This is not true.
http://about.usps.com/news/events-calendar/2012-federal-holidays.htm
• Monday, January 2 – New Year's Day (observed)
• Monday, January 16 – Martin Luther King, Jr. birthday (observed)
• Monday, February 20 – Washington's birthday (President’s Day)
• Monday, May 28 – Memorial Day
• Wednesday, July 4 – Independence Day
• Monday, September 3 – Labor Day
• Monday, October 8 – Columbus Day
• Monday, November 12 – Veterans’ Day (observed)
• Thursday, November 22 – Thanksgiving Day
• Tuesday, December 25 – Christmas Day
I talked to murphy on friday and he hadn't shipped anything at that point or was gonna ship that day. I wouldn't worry until tomorrow at least.
I got a bad feeling after reading that he is selling his coins like that, although I suppose his supplier could just be demanding money. It could go either way I guess.
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He said he didnt send them out on friday to you? I thought he had told us all (those who have bought his sheets) that he sent them out friday. This entire thing is just kind of strange to me.
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Im losing faith in this place. Its too bad people do dirty things like stealing peoples money like that. :-\
if you notice it's many that advertise family or gdf that are scammers or anything related to the grateful dead.
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It doesn't really make sense to me why a scammer would need to dump their coins quickly. Makes me think his supplier wants money.
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okay...
Postal service ran on both Friday and Monday.
yeah, but only for surface mail...
sorters blahblahblah weren't in operation...
tomorrow is the day? :)
First of all, GDF Fluff within itself is almost at the top of the LSD purity chain right under needlepoint.
Second, somehow his prices are somehow lower than other vendors' when he could just compete with them at the same price seeing how GDF Fluff is considered better than what Tony has... that's what a real businessman would do.
Third, this guy is selling all his BTC away for 75% of mt. gox value, despite his low prices. So he's getting $375/sheet at that rate, which is completely ludicrous even for bulk buys of GDF fluff
Do you really like false hope or are you just transitioning to your eventual disappointment?
dude no offense but LSD is LSD no matter whether its from California or EU. The reason it's called fluff is because a gram is really fluffy of purity stuff. GDF is a joke and take that coming from an old deadhead. GDF is nothing but young kids who never saw the dead and think they are bad asses. Old school dead heads make fun of these kids because they are usually scammer on lot and want to feel special claiming to be GDF and all the stupid rumors of you must do a thump print of raw and this and that are sooo stupid. The real people high up in the L chain don't claim family and make fun of people who say they are GDF. The only differences in crystals is that when made by which ever chemist( not family) decided to leave impurities to get a higher yield. The only real GDF is the actual band members and their road crew, nobody else!
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It doesn't really make sense to me why a scammer would need to dump their coins quickly. Makes me think his supplier wants money.
Than why did he say that he would sell the 20 sheets at once and ship at once and require FE on all, and say all where shipped out and now after toker said he got his coins and MM seemed to redeem himself and MM listed sheets again... He said he was gonna wait to sell another 20 until the feedback hit. As a competing vendor I know I look bad saying all this but hey just want people to know to wait a few days before buying anything from him. I'm really pulling for MM to be real but so many red flags. Advertising as GDF fluff, sound familiar... familyforever, jerrygarcia did the same and look at whats happening with him. Like I said the big people up in the L chain don't claim GDF it's the kids that sell their products who do
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It doesn't really make sense to me why a scammer would need to dump their coins quickly. Makes me think his supplier wants money.
Than why did he say that he would sell the 20 sheets at once and ship at once and require FE on all, and say all where shipped out and now after toker said he got his coins and MM seemed to redeem himself and MM listed sheets again... He said he was gonna wait to sell another 20 until the feedback hit. As a competing vendor I know I look bad saying all this but hey just want people to know to wait a few days before buying anything from him. I'm really pulling for MM to be real but so many red flags. Advertising as GDF fluff, sound familiar... familyforever, jerrygarcia did the same and look at whats happening with him. Like I said the big people up in the L chain don't claim GDF it's the kids that sell their products who do
i agree... i'm not vouching for him... i think all should wait, just trying to say people shouldn't panic or assume yet... he could play the entire 'i need to cash out and pay my supplier' card without actually doing it (through toker.) so this actually adds credibility to his story IMO.
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It doesn't really make sense to me why a scammer would need to dump their coins quickly. Makes me think his supplier wants money.
Than why did he say that he would sell the 20 sheets at once and ship at once and require FE on all, and say all where shipped out and now after toker said he got his coins and MM seemed to redeem himself and MM listed sheets again... He said he was gonna wait to sell another 20 until the feedback hit. As a competing vendor I know I look bad saying all this but hey just want people to know to wait a few days before buying anything from him. I'm really pulling for MM to be real but so many red flags. Advertising as GDF fluff, sound familiar... familyforever, jerrygarcia did the same and look at whats happening with him. Like I said the big people up in the L chain don't claim GDF it's the kids that sell their products who do
i agree... i'm not vouching for him... i think all should wait, just trying to say people shouldn't panic or assume yet... he could play the entire 'i need to cash out and pay my supplier' card without actually doing it (through toker.) so this actually adds credibility to his story IMO.
I agree sounds like that could be the case. And as a soon to be competing lsd vendor MM and me talked on PM about working with me because I could sell them cheaper than his supply. So for making him look bad, if he comes through for everyone I will give him an apology and a free 1/4 sheet and if he wants to still work with me I will.
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Postal service ran on both Friday and Monday.
yeah, but only for surface mail...
sorters blahblahblah weren't in operation...
tomorrow is the day? :)
Not true. Christy Nugs shipped me an ounce on Friday, got here on Monday. That's across the entire USA over Easter weekend.
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Guys, chill out a bit. I cashed out with toker420 to pay my dude. I needed the last 75BTC right away, SO I gave him a deal on those for 75% mtgox. I already picked up another 20 pack last night and I am holding it in case anything doesn't show up on these orders. I will not leave you out in the cold.
Remember when I sold my 5/10/25 strips? I did the same thing, right??
There are much easier ways to scam people, this is much work for little reward. Let me know if anything shows today people.
peace <3 Lucy
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okay...
Postal service ran on both Friday and Monday.
yeah, but only for surface mail...
sorters blahblahblah weren't in operation...
tomorrow is the day? :)
First of all, GDF Fluff within itself is almost at the top of the LSD purity chain right under needlepoint.
Second, somehow his prices are somehow lower than other vendors' when he could just compete with them at the same price seeing how GDF Fluff is considered better than what Tony has... that's what a real businessman would do.
Third, this guy is selling all his BTC away for 75% of mt. gox value, despite his low prices. So he's getting $375/sheet at that rate, which is completely ludicrous even for bulk buys of GDF fluff
Do you really like false hope or are you just transitioning to your eventual disappointment?
dude no offense but LSD is LSD no matter whether its from California or EU. The reason it's called fluff is because a gram is really fluffy of purity stuff. GDF is a joke and take that coming from an old deadhead. GDF is nothing but young kids who never saw the dead and think they are bad asses. Old school dead heads make fun of these kids because they are usually scammer on lot and want to feel special claiming to be GDF and all the stupid rumors of you must do a thump print of raw and this and that are sooo stupid. The real people high up in the L chain don't claim family and make fun of people who say they are GDF. The only differences in crystals is that when made by which ever chemist( not family) decided to leave impurities to get a higher yield. The only real GDF is the actual band members and their road crew, nobody else!
My sleepy ass included GDF next to fluff for some reason. Notice why I didn't write GDF needlepoint.
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damn i did the early finalization for these too. glad i didnt go with the full sheet, only paid for half but almost sent him another 250 OOE, thank god i didnt.
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i scam you acid time ago. $8000. emergency, health, medicine and mortgage. no excuse, had to.
this person doing same thing. avoidance measures. weekend shipping buys time. dcn risk. claim fronted product, need cash quick.
no trust. no trust
i out of need, will pay in time, he out of greed.
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i scam you acid time ago. $8000. emergency, health, medicine and mortgage. no excuse, had to.
this person doing same thing. avoidance measures. weekend shipping buys time. dcn risk. claim fronted product, need cash quick.
no trust. no trust
i out of need, will pay in time, he out of greed.
i'm sure heroin had nothing to do with it.
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i scam you acid time ago. $8000. emergency, health, medicine and mortgage. no excuse, had to.
this person doing same thing. avoidance measures. weekend shipping buys time. dcn risk. claim fronted product, need cash quick.
no trust. no trust
i out of need, will pay in time, he out of greed.
me love you long time 5 darra
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no. child congenital heart disease. morals worth nothing for my child.
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getting some in next few days... will report on it.
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sorry weird speech. avoid writeprint
i scam you acid time ago. $8000. emergency, health, medicine and mortgage. no excuse, had to.
this person doing same thing. avoidance measures. weekend shipping buys time. dcn risk. claim fronted product, need cash quick.
no trust. no trust
i out of need, will pay in time, he out of greed.
hey, bub, why don't you do it like the rest of us and flip shit? Drugs sell themselves, i mean, you exploited that fact. This isn't a nicholas cage movie, man, the ends do not justify the means. That said, if you had provided(emphasis on past tense) a BTC address i'm sure lot's of people would have donated. I always have extras when i fund my accounts.
And just exactly how do you expect to pay back? CHD is chronic, you must know that, or at least be starting to realize it if you're scamming to pay for your child's treatment. My herat goes oout to you, itt really does, and i'm all for desperate measures, but you can't take food out of the mouths of those that have just as little as you... Targeted fraud at least has less of a karmic sting in my opinion, if it's the right targets.
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sorry weird speech. avoid writeprint
i scam you acid time ago. $8000. emergency, health, medicine and mortgage. no excuse, had to.
this person doing same thing. avoidance measures. weekend shipping buys time. dcn risk. claim fronted product, need cash quick.
no trust. no trust
i out of need, will pay in time, he out of greed.
hey, bub, why don't you do it like the rest of us and flip shit? Drugs sell themselves, i mean, you exploited that fact. This isn't a nicholas cage movie, man, the ends do not justify the means. That said, if you had provided(emphasis on past tense) a BTC address i'm sure lot's of people would have donated. I always have extras when i fund my accounts.
And just exactly how do you expect to pay back? CHD is chronic, you must know that, or at least be starting to realize it if you're scamming to pay for your child's treatment. My herat goes oout to you, itt really does, and i'm all for desperate measures, but you can't take food out of the mouths of those that have just as little as you... Targeted fraud at least has less of a karmic sting in my opinion, if it's the right targets.
When done for love and survival, morals don't exist until after the fact. There's rights and major wrongs but I can understand the situation if it was absolutely dire. If it was between life and death for a loved one, fuck yeah I'd scam the shit out of everyone I could. Like it or not, you don't really know until shit hits the fan. That being said, don't ever buy sheets from me :P
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hahaha, nah,yeah, i get that completely, but there are some of us that are in simila situations and depend on this superfluous income to cope... Hence whyi said targeted fraud. I won't be a hypocrite and say i've never scammed anyone. Not online, but in real life, and very much targeted. Never flat out stolen from a person though, corporations of course, haha. But when it's a perso 1) i'dlike them to deserve it, or at least be able to absorb the blow more easily than it'dbe for me to acquire the mone elsewhere, and 2) i like them to do it willingly, AND I PREFER IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY SATISFIED WITH THE "TRANSACTION"!!!! This is actually the key charity pan handlers use. Selfish ego boost is a damn good motivator.
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hahaha, nah,yeah, i get that completely, but there are some of us that are in simila situations and depend on this superfluous income to cope... Hence whyi said targeted fraud. I won't be a hypocrite and say i've never scammed anyone. Not online, but in real life, and very much targeted. Never flat out stolen from a person though, corporations of course, haha. But when it's a perso 1) i'dlike them to deserve it, or at least be able to absorb the blow more easily than it'dbe for me to acquire the mone elsewhere, and 2) i like them to do it willingly, AND I PREFER IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY SATISFIED WITH THE "TRANSACTION"!!!! This is actually the key charity pan handlers use. Selfish ego boost is a damn good motivator.
Agreed on the corporations part. Working as a cashier for one has its perks when no one's looking ;)
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Ooh, i don't like dirty hands and all seeing eyes....
I'm more into schemes, not so much crime, literally. i'm more into the crooked deal than the outright steal, skimming off the top, not taking it all to hawk. ;-)
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Ooh, i don't like dirty hands and all seeing eyes....
I'm more into schemes, not so much crime, literally. i'm more into the crooked deal than the outright steal, skimming off the top, not taking it all to hawk. ;-)
Well I have this goal of astronomical proportions to change society at large (wish me luck) but it relies on me playing by the system as I proceed to fuck it over at the same time.
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No pack from mike still, not looking good... I sent him a message on the market.
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crucify this bitch, start reporting if you don't get packs tomorrow so nobody else gets fucked. Some noobs don't read forums like they should.
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glad i didn't drop 15 hundie on him...
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No sheet for me today, either. This is beginning to fucking suck.
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glad i didn't drop 15 hundie on him...
That would of hurt man, I'm glad I even got my BTC from the cat. Sorry if you guys get screwed, we need a SR scammer patrol to go after some of these pieces of shit.
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I already picked up another 20 pack last night and I am holding it in case anything doesn't show up on these orders. I will not leave you out in the cold.
Well Mike, would you be willing to give us our BTC back if this all goes to shit? Surely you wouldn't want to leave us out in the cold...having put so much trust and money in this entire situation...
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I already picked up another 20 pack last night and I am holding it in case anything doesn't show up on these orders. I will not leave you out in the cold.
Well Mike, would you be willing to give us our BTC back if this all goes to shit? Surely you wouldn't want to leave us out in the cold...having put so much trust and money in this entire situation...
A drug dealer is a drug dealer... words cost nothing. If packages don't arrive soon....
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Just checked all his feedback. People either haven't updated, or if they have, they've stated that they have not received their order. A month ago, his previous batch of orders were all marked with "fast shipping" and whatnot. This reeks of foul play. Message sent to the mods already. Life lesson: If it seems to good to be true, it probably fucking is. >:(
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Not going to say anything YET. But I ordered Thursday night, supposedly went out Friday PRIORITY, and it's not here as of Wednesday.
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Just a quick clarification, my post wasn't meant as an indictment... but i shit bricks within escrow, imagine out of it...
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The probability of NO ONE getting their orders from mike.murphy today after he sent it PRIORITY is astonishingly low. I'm calling shenanigans. Expensive fucking shenanigans. How is it even possible that no one received anything and its wednesday? Occam's Razor, ladies and gentleman.
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The probability of NO ONE getting their orders from mike.murphy today after he sent it PRIORITY is astonishingly low. I'm calling shenanigans. Expensive fucking shenanigans. How is it even possible that no one received anything and its wednesday? Occam's Razor, ladies and gentleman.
+1, I just moved to the right coast and I'm still getting orders from the left coast in 3 days max. how much time until the admin steps in and takes care of this guy? Don't let him keep it going as long as past scammers have, you fuckers let foreverfamily drag that shit on forever.
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Seriously. I have sent a message to the admins, as I'm sure others have. I guess we'll see what happens by weeks end. That feeling of opening your mailbox to see nothing but fucking bills is bullshit. Maybe I could have paid those bills with the investment I just tried to make, but I guess I'll be eating Kraft macaroni and cheese for the next few months as I dig myself out of the financial shit-hole that Mike.Murphy was so generous enough to put me in. Thanks dude. Lying to all of our fucking faces. The balls on this guy.
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i'm sorry to say, but you probably have most, if not all of the btc, toker :-P
obviously not your fault, and forall intents and purposes, you are the rightful owner.
there's one last shot....he wasn't actually being fronted shit and h had to cash out to buy stck?
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i'm sorry to say, but you probably have most, if not all of the btc, toker :-P
obviously not your fault, and forall intents and purposes, you are the rightful owner.
there's one last shot....he wasn't actually being fronted shit and h had to cash out to buy stck?
nope he said he need FE because his guy wanted payment and was fronted, sucks!
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i'm sorry to say, but you probably have most, if not all of the btc, toker :-P
obviously not your fault, and forall intents and purposes, you are the rightful owner.
there's one last shot....he wasn't actually being fronted shit and h had to cash out to buy stck?
I was wondering if he did dump them all on me, I literally counted 15 emails from him today when going through them.
Fucker probably has a greendot card with at least 7 or 8 g's on it right now.
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"This user has no active listings"
Fucking great. I could fucking break my own arm for putting so much goddamned trust with this guy. Someone actually went in halves with me on his sheet. Here's to hoping I don't fucking die because I didn't deliver. Thanks for making me sleep with one eye open, mike!
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Hey, at least everyone who made the mistake of trsuting this guy, wont make that mistake again!
I've been through similar massive scams in the hacking community, and you laern from it.
I really feel sorry for you guys right now, I've been watching him and his thread for a while.. it was so sketchy from teh start.
I really hope it all works out well for the buyers some how.
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If this is a scam, I don't think anyone will ever finalize early again. They should put a banner up for noobs 'don't ever finalize early'.
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with the new cash advance system, even sellers with legit cash flow issues shouldn't be haviong people FE any mores
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the fucked up thing is that i never had intentions of FE. I put $600 in with a BTC vendor using 2 moneypacks with plans on buying tony's sheet. Obviously the correct decision. When everything was set and done with my BTC transaction, I had less than what I needed for tony's sheet. Low and behold, Mike.Murphy comes along and says his sheets are $550 when i only had $558 in my SR account. I was so excited that i could still get a sheet that I jumped on it. Never do what I did. Ever. I'd rather lose money due to depreciation of BTC than my whole fucking lot of money to a scamming son of a bitch who has the balls to talk directly to us as if nothing is going on at all. Some people...
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i'm sorry guys... :-(
If FD ever comes through forme on my ooold GB order, i'll piece it out to scammees...
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I really hope this isn't another fucked up story of LSD scamming. People just get too eager, I guess, when they see good prices on acid. People really just need to say NO to early finalization unless the seller has truly earned it, e.g. with dozens of successful transactions and sustained excellent reviews on their thread.
Maybe SR admin can put a warning for new users on the mainpage, on the left side of the screen? "Exercise extreme caution before finalizing early!" Of course it is buyers' responsibility to read up on those from whom they wish to purchase. But, for the sake of the SR community, it might help solidify trust and reduce scamming if there was some kind of prominent link on the dangers of early finalization.
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with the new cash advance system, even sellers with legit cash flow issues shouldn't be haviong people FE any mores
thats not really fair. i for one one be paying SR another 5%. actually that system just seems like a scam waiting to happen. early FE is the only way I will ever offer bulk on SR and it seems to work fine for legit vendors like tony. it still sucks for situations like this but offering a service that makes the vendors pay another 5% on top of the rest isn't gonna make anyone stop FEing. if you look at it from a vendor standpoint we get scammed alot as well with buyer fraud, and none of us are gonna go out on a limb with an expensive order just hoping that you are gonna be legit and finalize. we fulfill our end we want our money thats how it is.
fact is nothing beats good old fashioned trust and relationship with your vendor. thats the main reason i don't have any L right now, because I am building a relationship with a new vendor and I am not gonna place all that I have in him until i know without a doubt that I will not have to worry. sorry to say but the scammers know there is plenty of 'suckers' (for lack of a better term, sorry don't mean any disrespect) on SR desperate for sheets of L and they are gonna keep playing this card forever most likely.
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I don't disagree with what you said about trust being the only answer, but in an open place like SR, trust is tough. I'm not saying sellers like you , tony, MIT, etc, who have earned the trust deserve to not have yet another fee, but Mike's ploy was that he straightened out the sketchy situation when he left OVDB (some maxvendor rant) and he was doing a one time deal to help his fallen comrade. Most people assumed he was talking about ene (it may have even been in ene's thread). but all of a sudden, he's cash poor, needs people to FE, then cashes out at a break neck deal to a known member. THAT kind of situation is worth the 5% fee, because he unloaded the FE'd coins @75% in a hurry, if he took a loan, he could have cashed out better. Also, the new members who see OVDB as his former "home" (unknown+ maybe) think he is a pimp, and trustworthy. OVDB had scammers too! I also understand that bulk is different than a 10 strip here, or a 1/4 sheet there. bulk deals should be paid in advance! but bulk deals should only happen after having done enough smaller transactions to build your own sense of trust.
on a side not, I stick to the psychedelic section mostly, but do the other sections have recurring and relentless scammers pulling the same shit week in and week out, or is it just us turned on folks who remember never getting burned on an acid buy IRL. Maybe the scammers target the LSD scene because they think we are all a bunch of tie died hippies (easy prey)... I'm starting to lose the train of thought, so I will stop this here.
wretched
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I don't disagree with what you said about trust being the only answer, but in an open place like SR, trust is tough. I'm not saying sellers like you , tony, MIT, etc, who have earned the trust deserve to not have yet another fee, but Mike's ploy was that he straightened out the sketchy situation when he left OVDB (some maxvendor rant) and he was doing a one time deal to help his fallen comrade. Most people assumed he was talking about ene (it may have even been in ene's thread). but all of a sudden, he's cash poor, needs people to FE, then cashes out at a break neck deal to a known member. THAT kind of situation is worth the 5% fee, because he unloaded the FE'd coins @75% in a hurry, if he took a loan, he could have cashed out better. Also, the new members who see OVDB as his former "home" (unknown+ maybe) think he is a pimp, and trustworthy. OVDB had scammers too! I also understand that bulk is different than a 10 strip here, or a 1/4 sheet there. bulk deals should be paid in advance! but bulk deals should only happen after having done enough smaller transactions to build your own sense of trust.
on a side not, I stick to the psychedelic section mostly, but do the other sections have recurring and relentless scammers pulling the same shit week in and week out, or is it just us turned on folks who remember never getting burned on an acid buy IRL. Maybe the scammers target the LSD scene because they think we are all a bunch of tie died hippies (easy prey)... I'm starting to lose the train of thought, so I will stop this here.
wretched
I just farted.
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Hey, at least everyone who made the mistake of trsuting this guy, wont make that mistake again!
I've been through similar massive scams in the hacking community, and you laern from it.
I really feel sorry for you guys right now, I've been watching him and his thread for a while.. it was so sketchy from teh start.
I really hope it all works out well for the buyers some how.
Agreed, I have had nothing but good come from my experience on SR so far and I see this one incident as a personal failing and take it as a well-learned lesson. SR can't stop everything bad from happening and so it is up to the individual to bring something to the table. I screwed up and I paid...I hope others learned something too if there's any good to be salvaged.
When I think about it, I actually feel bad for the people that finalized within the last 24 hours, now that's got to be lame as fuck
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should be getting a 10 strip on Friday... Sent him 22 bitcoins not in escrow...
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should be getting a 10 strip on Friday... Sent him 22 bitcoins not in escrow...
How do you know it's coming Friday?
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I don't disagree with what you said about trust being the only answer, but in an open place like SR, trust is tough. I'm not saying sellers like you , tony, MIT, etc, who have earned the trust deserve to not have yet another fee, but Mike's ploy was that he straightened out the sketchy situation when he left OVDB (some maxvendor rant) and he was doing a one time deal to help his fallen comrade. Most people assumed he was talking about ene (it may have even been in ene's thread). but all of a sudden, he's cash poor, needs people to FE, then cashes out at a break neck deal to a known member. THAT kind of situation is worth the 5% fee, because he unloaded the FE'd coins @75% in a hurry, if he took a loan, he could have cashed out better. Also, the new members who see OVDB as his former "home" (unknown+ maybe) think he is a pimp, and trustworthy. OVDB had scammers too! I also understand that bulk is different than a 10 strip here, or a 1/4 sheet there. bulk deals should be paid in advance! but bulk deals should only happen after having done enough smaller transactions to build your own sense of trust.
on a side not, I stick to the psychedelic section mostly, but do the other sections have recurring and relentless scammers pulling the same shit week in and week out, or is it just us turned on folks who remember never getting burned on an acid buy IRL. Maybe the scammers target the LSD scene because they think we are all a bunch of tie died hippies (easy prey)... I'm starting to lose the train of thought, so I will stop this here.
wretched
true never thought about it like that.. but then again i guess then SR would just be taking the brunt of the scam instead of the users, and then the loss would be passed onto the customers through fees, same as shoplifting IRL gets passed onto the customer with higher prices... i don't really think its a good idea on this cash advance thing it just makes scamming extremely easy IMO. ill leave it at that though.
yeah they target LSD because LSD sheets are high price so its easy to claim FE for something so expensive and people want it so badly since its the best drug known to mankind... there is alot of money in LSD scams, probably more than any other drug... an 8ball of most addictive drugs doesn't cost anywhere near 500$.. people are probably more cautious of other drugs since it attracts sketchy people... the sad part is they don't check the forums til AFTER they get scammed and then they realize they've been had. i think you had a message up on the listings for awhile, that probably did alot of good. we might talk to DPR about putting a message on all the listing pages about checking vendors on forums before finalizing early for anyone like that.
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I'm sorry, this if off-topic, but what does WoW mean? I'm guessing the acid-knowledge people would be in here.
Just one reply so i can let the thread not derail.
I've searched everywhere, all I read is world of warcraft stuff 0.0
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wow means white LSD on white un-perfed paper
Envious you sure know alot about scamming LSD, almost seems like you came from OVDB or soemthing, like Mike, hmmm....
i've been on SR and OVDB since the beginning of public scene.... i was a mod on OVDB and been in the private scene much longer... OVDB definitely had its fair share of scams just like SR... and so does every other decent-sized board i've ever been on... scamming is just a part of buying drugs online and you gotta teach yourself the signs if you expect not to get taken.. no one place is better than any other... people blame SR or OVDB for not doing anything to prevent it, when really both of them had their own systems in place to try to prevent it... its your own fault if you don't take advantage of their systems... a combination of the trust system and escrow system would be the ideal solution IMO..
even old school ppl get scammed sometimes and they are usually pretty good at spotting scammers... its a match of wits and some scammers are pretty smart...
anyway i get a vibe that you think i am a scammer which is pretty ridiculous... maybe you should do a search on my name first. lol
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Envious you sure know alot about scamming LSD, almost seems like you came from OVDB or soemthing, like Mike, hmmm....
that should mean Mike will deliver... otherwise make your homework, nerf.
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The probability Envious is a scammer is the same probability of us getting our LSD.
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wow means white LSD on white un-perfed paper
Envious you sure know alot about scamming LSD, almost seems like you came from OVDB or soemthing, like Mike, hmmm....
anyway i get a vibe that you think i am a scammer which is pretty ridiculous... maybe you should do a search on my name first. lol
LOLOLOLOLO, I'm still tripping balls from those sheets you scammed me on envy, you're the best scammer ever ;)
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There's no question in my mind about Envious' legitimacy. ;)
I hope you folks get your sheets from MM... but this situation looks scary to me.
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should be getting a 10 strip on Friday... Sent him 22 bitcoins not in escrow...
How do you know it's coming Friday?
ordered before from him. Did not take more than 5 days to west coast.
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Oh look, another LSD scam. Really?
:'( I really wish I had the time/resources to get what I need done to be more available to you guys and be able to do sheets and whatnot because all of this scamming targeting specifically LSD buyers/users (who seriously have the cleanest karma in general of any drug-seeking group IMO) really makes me feel awful. I remember getting burned 5+ times getting blank paper at shows and stuff years ago before I made the right connections and I know the feeling. Whahhhhh....
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Kind of pointless now, but package never showed like I knew it wouldn't. 100% confirmed scammer.
I don't disagree with what you said about trust being the only answer, but in an open place like SR, trust is tough. I'm not saying sellers like you , tony, MIT, etc, who have earned the trust deserve to not have yet another fee, but Mike's ploy was that he straightened out the sketchy situation when he left OVDB (some maxvendor rant) and he was doing a one time deal to help his fallen comrade. Most people assumed he was talking about ene (it may have even been in ene's thread). but all of a sudden, he's cash poor, needs people to FE, then cashes out at a break neck deal to a known member. THAT kind of situation is worth the 5% fee, because he unloaded the FE'd coins @75% in a hurry, if he took a loan, he could have cashed out better. Also, the new members who see OVDB as his former "home" (unknown+ maybe) think he is a pimp, and trustworthy. OVDB had scammers too! I also understand that bulk is different than a 10 strip here, or a 1/4 sheet there. bulk deals should be paid in advance! but bulk deals should only happen after having done enough smaller transactions to build your own sense of trust.
on a side not, I stick to the psychedelic section mostly, but do the other sections have recurring and relentless scammers pulling the same shit week in and week out, or is it just us turned on folks who remember never getting burned on an acid buy IRL. Maybe the scammers target the LSD scene because they think we are all a bunch of tie died hippies (easy prey)... I'm starting to lose the train of thought, so I will stop this here.
wretched
true never thought about it like that.. but then again i guess then SR would just be taking the brunt of the scam instead of the users, and then the loss would be passed onto the customers through fees, same as shoplifting IRL gets passed onto the customer with higher prices... i don't really think its a good idea on this cash advance thing it just makes scamming extremely easy IMO. ill leave it at that though.
yeah they target LSD because LSD sheets are high price so its easy to claim FE for something so expensive and people want it so badly since its the best drug known to mankind... there is alot of money in LSD scams, probably more than any other drug... an 8ball of most addictive drugs doesn't cost anywhere near 500$.. people are probably more cautious of other drugs since it attracts sketchy people... the sad part is they don't check the forums til AFTER they get scammed and then they realize they've been had. i think you had a message up on the listings for awhile, that probably did alot of good. we might talk to DPR about putting a message on all the listing pages about checking vendors on forums before finalizing early for anyone like that.
I checked the forums and there were multiple people who vouched for him in some way. Maybe not Tony but he wasn't unknown. Had good feedback when I ordered, then he gave Toker his stuff. That shit doesn't fly all the time Envious. Hell, one day you could just choose to be a dick like Murphy, I don't know.
Point is, sometimes you can't 100% blame the buyer although I accept all the consequences on my part. People knew Murphy, said they'd worked with him before, and I still got burned.
But fuck it, SR's been great so far. If FE is so dumb then why isn't it an SR rule not to FE. Tony still requires but I don't care at all because the guy is perfect. There is a TON of FE on SR and many big vendors do it and I think it's an intellectual copout to simply blame the buyer for everything.
Oh look, another LSD scam. Really?
:'( I really wish I had the time/resources to get what I need done to be more available to you guys and be able to do sheets and whatnot because all of this scamming targeting specifically LSD buyers/users (who seriously have the cleanest karma in general of any drug-seeking group IMO) really makes me feel awful. I remember getting burned 5+ times getting blank paper at shows and stuff years ago before I made the right connections and I know the feeling. Whahhhhh....
Yeah man, totally sucks but SR still has great karma in my book. Del, you're shit was absolutely fantastic stuff. Thanks for showing that the LSD area still has some good people in it.
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yea dudes, this really fucking sucks. I too seemed to have made the very poor decision of trusting him.
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damn, just read through this whole thread and it's pretty brutal. i really hope everyone gets what MM promised them. sorry you are all going through this.
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Still nothing today for you guys?
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Still nothing today for you guys?
Dood 1pm on the east coast mail can come for another 4 hours, west coasters 7 hours...
With that said I doubt it for multiple reasons :(
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keep forgetting I must be at the beginning of the route at my new spot. 8am mail=bliss for order day
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i don't blame buyers at all. in fact... i guess there is really no foolproof way to prevent it. like ive said before you can only do your best to educate yourself and let others take the plunge first... i really didn't see this one coming either but it's known to happen... the pro scammers usually do operate this way so they can maximize their profits :(
in fact murphy did play his cards pretty good... only a couple i've seen that were this well played... but now that you look back there is a couple signs that were easy to overlook: bait and switch on finalize early, and building trust with his old rep. really the only way to track his ass at this point is to get the MPs from toker and call greendot and report abuse, but that might compromise toker so i dunno. that was a slip up by him IMO. greendot is never secure.
i had a couple people asked me if i vouched for him.. im glad i said no.. i will never vouch for someone that i don't know very, very well, and even then sometimes they betray you. (tarp)
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i don't blame buyers at all. in fact... i guess there is really no foolproof way to prevent it. like ive said before you can only do your best to educate yourself and let others take the plunge first... i really didn't see this one coming either but it's known to happen... the pro scammers usually do operate this way so they can maximize their profits :(
The red flags are a fine line between nice guy and scammer. He made it sound like he was pulling for everyones best interest. The story kept changing little by little, people should have picked up the hints after the first few orders went and more excuses came up. Of course had that happend, he could have just hurried up supplied the few so that everyone else would have jumped the following week.
It's a shame all things dont always come around to everyone, he probably walked away with 8k.
Hopefully some legit good deals will be here soon, but atleast we have a few reputable vendors like yourself, tony, mitanox, and i'm sure some others that I am missing to keep it flowing 8)
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i don't blame buyers at all. in fact... i guess there is really no foolproof way to prevent it. like ive said before you can only do your best to educate yourself and let others take the plunge first... i really didn't see this one coming either but it's known to happen... the pro scammers usually do operate this way so they can maximize their profits :(
One thing that is interesting / surprising is why he decided to complete his last BTC exchange transaction with Toker. I mean, if he was planning to run, why did he bother going through with that? Needed more time somehow? But all the funds were finalized early anyways. Well, good for Toker, but puzzling nevertheless.
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Still nothing today for you guys?
Just checked this morning and nothing. Reduced rating to 1 and applied scammer label but the community, except for my dumbass, already knew that.
i don't blame buyers at all. in fact... i guess there is really no foolproof way to prevent it. like ive said before you can only do your best to educate yourself and let others take the plunge first... i really didn't see this one coming either but it's known to happen... the pro scammers usually do operate this way so they can maximize their profits :(
in fact murphy did play his cards pretty good... only a couple i've seen that were this well played... but now that you look back there is a couple signs that were easy to overlook: bait and switch on finalize early, and building trust with his old rep. really the only way to track his ass at this point is to get the MPs from toker and call greendot and report abuse, but that might compromise toker so i dunno. that was a slip up by him IMO. greendot is never secure.
i had a couple people asked me if i vouched for him.. im glad i said no.. i will never vouch for someone that i don't know very, very well, and even then sometimes they betray you. (tarp)
I absolutely agree with you man. Unfortunately, I should've read my own fucking signature a little closer. Now I will make sure they are people at your level Envious before I ever trust the L area again. Lesson learned and anger stowed. I fucked up and Murphy played me good. Won't stop me from having a good experience with legit, good people like you, Tony, Del, and Mit.
Sorry if it sounded like I was bitching at you. Just a bit bummed but strong minds require bumpy roads and I'll live another day lol
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Wow, this is extremely frustrating. So far I have spent about $750 (5 transactions, 3 of which never came assuming MM's doesn't) on SR and only have 35 hits of acid to show for it... I guess if those stats aren't good enough to not finalize early from now on then I'll wait for another vendor/listing. It's too bad that as a new buyer you have to finalize early to get anyone to sell to you, and even after you prove to be a capable buyer you are still made to finalize early.
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I'm really sorry to hear you guys got ripped. As soon as toker mentioned MM was offloading his BTC at 75 cents on the dollar, I knew the jig was up, especially if you go back far enough and read his sop story about only making $50 net a sheet (I'm no math whiz, but.............).
I have an order in for 10 sheets of my 150ug as we speak, hoping to get it up in time for 420. They won't be as cheap as MM's listing, but they will all be IN ESCROW!
I don't personally believe in Karma, more like natural consequences sow/reap. A guy pulling off what MM pulls off is going to do it to the wrong person some day, and even if it's not for much, he might find himself drinking supper from a straw just based on principal. Here's hoping greed gets him sloppy.
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I still have all DCN's in my hand right now with user names so I know who's is what. If by the 4th shipping day you haven't gotten your shipment, please PM me and I will check your DCN to see what the status is.
My shipper dropped the packs off today. He is in a very central location to most. Most people were reporting seeing packs in 2 days with the last round of orders, some were 3 8)
Magical Mike, gets DCN's before his shipper sends the orders... ???
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anyone claiming to be gdf, or have gdf laid fluff, is full of shit
rope headed puppy pullers
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anyone claiming to be gdf, or have gdf laid fluff, is full of shit
rope headed puppy pullers
^ this right here! coming from a soon to be lsd vendor from the US :) in hnds already and listing will be up tomorrow
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Oh look, another LSD scam. Really?
:'( I really wish I had the time/resources to get what I need done to be more available to you guys and be able to do sheets and whatnot because all of this scamming targeting specifically LSD buyers/users (who seriously have the cleanest karma in general of any drug-seeking group IMO) really makes me feel awful. I remember getting burned 5+ times getting blank paper at shows and stuff years ago before I made the right connections and I know the feeling. Whahhhhh....
What if you did what mike murphy promised from the beginning? A DCN confirmation group buy. Would you be able to get 10 sheets fronted for early finalization? You could even make stealth listings?
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Thinking of having a group buy for some WoW soon, though was waiting to see how this played out first. perhaps after this people won't be interested in attempting GBs so who knows.
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with a trusted vendor like del or tony or envy i would feel more comfortable
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don't forget Mitanox. I know he isn't domestic, but he's a cool cat!
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anyone claiming to be gdf, or have gdf laid fluff, is full of shit
rope headed puppy pullers
Not really true... There is a ton of WoW going around. I can't make claim to whether its GDF or not, but no one wants to cut good deals atm.
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we will see if I get my shit friday...
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i read the first and last half of this thread, and im sorry you guys got taken. That alot of cheddar.
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we will see if I get my shit friday...
No you won't.
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Yep nothing lost 22 bitcoins. Mike.Murphy was banned... was supposed to send me 10 hits for 22 bitcoins out of escrow...
Anyone else got pure DANK L?
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Yep nothing lost 22 bitcoins. Mike.Murphy was banned... was supposed to send me 10 hits for 22 bitcoins out of escrow...
Anyone else got pure DANK L?
No offense to mentally handicapped people, but are you fucking retarded?
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Well there goes my hope for that half sheet :( Life goes on, doesn't it?
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Well there goes my hope for that half sheet :( Life goes on, doesn't it?
It most definitely does. Too bad it has to go on with the knowledge that some scamming half-man is bathing in your/our money. Keeping a positive attitude is key though. You never know who's out there watching your back.
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never got it!!! Checking out the quality of blotter sold on SR but he ripped me off.
Selling clean crystal blotter sheets for 450$ USD.
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never got it!!!
Didn't you recently post that you were going to be selling sheets soon? I dunno...something doesn't seem right...
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i must say this makes me incredibly sad for all of those who got taken. i remember when this thread first started... i remember when he posted up his 10 strips as well. apparently that went A.Ok. typical bait & switch that i almost saw coming. i was curious when he first listed his sheets and asked if he would be interested in sending me a sample as i wanted to have a comparison to his wow to what i've been getting. he said nope he couldn't do it even though i offered to pay a very decent amount for a dose and shipping charges.
i've sent out a few tabs of some older L that i've gotten and from what im told the folks enjoyed it (there is a thread here). i was pretty stand offish as far as selling what i can get here but after seeing so many people getting burned i almost feel obligated to help out. im still considering it. i'd like to gather a few samples (already working on it) of the L that floats around these parts already to compare quality. i'll also not want to be putting other vendors out if my prices are able to be lower. so i have a bit to consider. but im now leaning towards bringing in sheets of wow (or mostly wow, sometimes there are little designs or logos) and i won't be asking for anyone to fe either. while this could go badly for me... the moment i'm screwed over i'll just pull any listings.
can't promise i'll be selling here, but after seeing this shit go down im leaning towards it :) sorry for everyone who was screwed by this douche
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April fools? ???
Wow. I'm so sorry for all these people who got taken here. Literally a bunch of April Fools. I started with the first page and later skipped to the end to see everyone get taken. People were falling over themselves for this deal that really wasn't that good. There is a lot of L our there right now and the prices on sr should be much lower. IRL 350-400 is normal. 250-300 is common.
I goes to show you how fast one of these scams can go down if buyers are not careful.
Happy four twenty!