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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Lights Out on January 04, 2012, 09:48 pm
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For thousands of years China has oppressed her people along with Russia. Both of these despicable countries are scars on the face of the world.
The United States has alot to gain by taking China by force and seizing all her assets. The United States should over throw the current Chinese government and free the people. The United States should then help the people live better free lives without the fear of the communist Chinese oppressors. China's army is purely defensive while the US army is purely offensive and the most powerful army in the world. It would be no problem to take out the Chinese government. Then to pay for the cost of the war the US could require that the new Chinese government sell valuable resources to the US and her allies at 50% market price. The new Chinese government should then give 10% of the money back to the people. The people would come ahead and the important powers in the world would win.
Ultimately this describes the US oppressing communism but its for the best. We could completely forget about the recession by exploiting Chinese resources!
I luv America.
(I also luv Mexico for supplying my country with drugs) Long live the corrupt Mexican government!
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- shouldn't the chinese people decide for themselves, afterall they perpetuate what the world seems to disagree with ?!
- typical of world politics which then use it to justify war.
- deciding for others how they should live and govern themselves.
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They should be allowed to choose for themselves but the government wont allow them to..........I cant imagine a worse government then the current one they live under.
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They should be allowed to choose for themselves but the government wont allow them to..........I cant imagine a worse government then the current one they live under.
- herein lies the predicament ...
- the world isn't america.
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I think a worse problem is the recession. We have the most powerful army in the world and they are also I think as expensive as all the other armies in the world combined. We piss away tons of money on the military. I say use it. China is the best to hit because they are assholes and their country is full of resources. I would like to see us take a few colonies in Africa and take their resources because we all know the Africans are just pissing away everything they have. I know that many people in the government are against Asians while tons of people in the government feel guilty about black people. So it would be easier to convince others in the government to attack China as opposed to an African country. I mean after all we don't wanna be racist.
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What is it with US Americans thinking they own the entire planet?
Lights Out, Obama recently signed the 2012 NDAA, which has some pretty scary provisions about detaining American citizens without trial. That's pretty much Martial Law right there, and a very clear violation of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The fact that a government can even do that without people flooding the streets in protest the very next day is enough for a lot of people to call the US government a dictatorship. this will be even more true once SOPA passes. Now, imagine that the countries of the European Union and Mercosur decide to organize a joint army to invade and "free" the USA from Big Bad Barack. This is pretty much the same scenario you're proposing for China. Wouldn't you, as an American citizen, feel like your rights, your nationality and your very country are being violated by this foreign aggression? Wouldn't you think "Who the hell do these people think they are, coming into MY country to fight against MY government? Why don't they go take care of their own problems? God knows they have enough of those!"?
Besides, look at how much Iraq is worse off since your boys went down and tore Saddam a new one. The country's base infrastructure was completely destroyed in the war, poverty and homelessness skyrocketed, and government corruption is just as high as ever. The only differences from when Saddam was running the show are that it's a different ethnic group oppressing all the others, and the country as a whole is substantially poorer. Why should we assume that China wouldn't be the exact same thing?
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Wow, sounds like this guy needs to get fucked nice and hard. You have alot of bent up anger buddy. Who cares about wars and invading people.........They just built a Dairy Queen a block from my house and thats got me really excited. But China, I dont really care what they do.
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I am an American and I served many years in the military. You are making all Americans look like blood thirsty world police with only our own interests at heart. It is essential that America serve as a role model. So that others may follow if they choose. If they choose to live another way this should be allowed unless they show aggression to us or our allies. You dont sound like someone that would have the balls to shoot one of the Chinese oppressors that you speak of. Do you know what its like to have nightmares in the day time? Thats what happens after you shoot and kill someone. Even if that person raise a gun and was preparing to kill you.....after you kill them your life is never the same. My entire world changed after I killed my first man. I have watched close friends go crazy after they shot an enemy that was preparing to kill them. It takes a special kind of person to maintain his sanity after committing a murder. Ultimately it is murder and you will come to that conclusion even if the government gives you a pat on the back.
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Obvious troll is obvious.
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this isn't the politics forum shall I move it there?
:)
nomad bloodbath
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Obvious troll is obvious.
Based on the way this OP speaks I doubt this is a troll post. It seems like the OP is very serious. I get tired of people saying troll troll troll. His views are warped but that doesn't mean you get to say his post is trolling.
Additionally, this is the off topic section of the forums. That leads me to believe that anything can be posted here right? I dont know forum etiquette since I usually dont use the internet for socialization purposes. This is the first website that I have used for anything resembling social purposes.
Despite this post being questionable at best its much better reading than FaceBook or Twitter posts. Talk about "trolling" or w/e. Those entire sites need to be erased.
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Godwin's Law strikes again. It's like clockwork.
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LOL what's happened here? has Team America just stormed our lovely boards here on SR?
I'll give you credit your a funny guy, China is pretty much communist by name ONLY... I suggest you stay out of political and military affairs unless you actually have knowledge r.e the subject...
another funny part of the 'argument'..."China's army is purely defensive while the US army is purely offensive and the most powerful army in the world. It would be no problem to take out the Chinese government. "
LOL go back to playing Call of Duty and munching on big macs...obvious troll..
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Let me introduce you to a lovely little group called the neo-cons
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The only way for the U.S. Economy to come out of the slump is via violence.
EndTheWhiteHouse.
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..i vote to delete this thread.
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regime change begins at home.
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I think the OP needs to forget about China and Russia and start looking at how Uncle Sam is quietly enslaving Americans.
The Internet has paradoxically supplied both the chains -and the tools to liberty ...and that's what makes living in the 21st Century so exciting!
Loving America need not include a love of the US Government (be it Democrat or Republican Tea Party or Socialist) the US Govt. machine is out of control.
The question is, how will Americans retrieve the idea and ideals of America from big government and big internet before it is lost as our fathers remembered it?
I'm not American, but like many westerners, I hail from a country that is heavily influenced, allied to, and hosts US troops on our soil. For the most part, I still prefer US world-hegemony to the alternative, and as such these realities give me a platform on which to comment upon the crossroads America is fast approaching.
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As a young American who has been to China, I think that it's ridiculous that you would want to just march into China and force them into doing what we want. It's like "we owe China a lot of money, so lets walk in and bitch slap them to justify us robbing them blind and refusing to pay them back". I don't know man, the last thing we need is another war.
Also, some people here have posted about not knowing anything about the Chinese government. When I was there, my tour guide openly talked about the shitty parts about his country, when we weren't monitored by the government. He knew which areas were monitored and which weren't ( to an extent ). Not only that, but there aren't any armed guards in my area, but in China there were plenty of people walking around with machine guns and shit. The people there are terribly poor, and are desperate for a dollar. I had beggars walk up to me and take my trash just for the hopes of recycling it. The beggars were so abundant that every time I would exit a bus, thirty or so Chinese would storm the entrance to the bus in hopes of selling something to us.
The Chinese people aren't happy with their government, and I think if America was to go to war with them, they would have a revolution. I'm not saying I know everything, but I have seen plenty of China, and the people are not happy. Many of them work 60+ hours a week for shit wages, or are jobless trying to kiss the ass of tourists to make some money.
I think America has it's problems, but in general it isn't that bad compared to other countries. I just wish more people would act on NDAA + SOPA, but no one wants to throw the first stone. I have contemplated about leaving college to start paramilitary training, but I'm not sure if the next American revolution will be violent.
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To bad America has its people enslaved itself; Capitalism.
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Dude, the reason you're on SR is because of the dictatorship called the USA.
I was born in the USA dictatorship and I now live in China.
Grew some pot plants in my front yard; my neighbors all admired the plants. :)
Cops rolled up and parked right in front of the plants, never said shit.
The Chinese have way more personal freedom than Americans.
Oh sure, they can't call the government names publicly, but if the government gets heavy handed,
they kick-up a shit storm and the government backs down.
I've seen it happen numerous times.
A Chinese friend once asked me to give him a candid appraisal of how the west views China.
I told him your bullshit version.
He laughed, almost busted a gut and said,
'Oh, they think we're North Korea!"
The Chinese have a stereotype for Americans:
they think Americans are well meaning but naive.
I think most Amerikans are sheeple;
who have bought that freedom bullshit hook line and stinker.
You have the right to remain silent.
The Chinese people don't want to be "liberated;"
they are living better than they have ever had it in the last 100 years.
In the last 100 years they have been invaded by the Japanese, Brits, French and Americans
and they eventually kicked all their asses and went back to being Chinese,
just as they have been doing for the last 4000 years.
You want to free a people?
Start with the USA:
restore the Bill of Rights
repeal the "Patriot Act" and NDAA
stop the war on drugs
jail Bushy and the Gang of Stooges for war crimes
jail the Wall Street scammers
jail Obummer for killing US citizens without due process
withdraw all the US forces from all over the world
close the 2000 military bases outside the US
release the 2 million people in the for profit jails,
80% are there for buying thing you buy on SR
Jesus, it morons like you that compelled me to get out of that hell hole.
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No FUCK you. I'm tired of officer America policing the world. It's embarrassing, and the entire world thinks we are school yard bullies who steal oil from third world countries with no military. We aren't freeing anyone.
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..i vote to delete this thread.
Censorship ;)
...but seriously, considering the state of the American economy, there's lot more pressing issues at home. The last thing you want to do is generate even more contempt for your country by invading yet another country under the guise of "freedom enforcers"
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...still a pointless thread...vote to delete.
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Dude, the reason you're on SR is because of the dictatorship called the USA.
I was born in the USA dictatorship and I now live in China.
Grew some pot plants in my front yard; my neighbors all admired the plants. :)
Cops rolled up and parked right in front of the plants, never said shit.
The Chinese have way more personal freedom than Americans.
Oh sure, they can't call the government names publicly, but if the government gets heavy handed,
they kick-up a shit storm and the government backs down.
I've seen it happen numerous times.
A Chinese friend once asked me to give him a candid appraisal of how the west views China.
I told him your bullshit version.
He laughed, almost busted a gut and said,
'Oh, they think we're North Korea!"
The Chinese have a stereotype for Americans:
they think Americans are well meaning but naive.
I think most Amerikans are sheeple;
who have bought that freedom bullshit hook line and stinker.
You have the right to remain silent.
The Chinese people don't want to be "liberated;"
they are living better than they have ever had it in the last 100 years.
In the last 100 years they have been invaded by the Japanese, Brits, French and Americans
and they eventually kicked all their asses and went back to being Chinese,
just as they have been doing for the last 4000 years.
You want to free a people?
Start with the USA:
restore the Bill of Rights
repeal the "Patriot Act" and NDAA
stop the war on drugs
jail Bushy and the Gang of Stooges for war crimes
jail the Wall Street scammers
jail Obummer for killing US citizens without due process
withdraw all the US forces from all over the world
close the 2000 military bases outside the US
release the 2 million people in the for profit jails,
80% are there for buying thing you buy on SR
Jesus, it morons like you that compelled me to get out of that hell hole.
Excellent post...really eye opening
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To bad America has its people enslaved itself; Capitalism.
Capitalism isn't the problem, government is.
What goes on in the United States isn't capitalism, it's fascism. For instance, if true capitalism were allowed in the U.S., there wouldn't be any need for The Silk Road, because there would be brick and mortar stores that sell any and all drugs. There would be online stores as well, but they wouldn't be black market. Drug cultivation and sale is free enterprise, and the government prohibits it. That is not capitalism.
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To bad America has its people enslaved itself; Capitalism.
Capitalism isn't the problem, government is.
What goes on in the United States isn't capitalism, it's fascism. For instance, if true capitalism were allowed in the U.S., there wouldn't be any need for The Silk Road, because there would be brick and mortar stores that sell any and all drugs. There would be online stores as well, but they wouldn't be black market. Drug cultivation and sale is free enterprise, and the government prohibits it. That is not capitalism.
All well and good, but where do you draw the line? By your reasoning, slavery is a free enterprise as well, and should be free to regulate itself.
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No, because people own themselves, and their property.
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No, because people SHOULD own themselves, and their property.
TFTFY
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I like when people say they love america. It really is silly and makes no sense in itself. Which part of america do you love? child pornography or murder? unconstitutional practices by an oppressive government, or the fact that the president is allowed to lie to the american citizens and brag about it while being cheered on? The country is so divided, it makes no sense at all to 'love' it as if its one united entity. This isnt WWF where you can love the whole organization. Our civil battles are real, and as far as us real Americans are concerned, the US government has chose to oppose us, its obvious from their daily actions, up to and including the mind warping techniques that has their citizens thinking its ok to drive tanks through foreign yards for no reason.