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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: invisibleman_007 on November 07, 2011, 10:25 pm

Title: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: invisibleman_007 on November 07, 2011, 10:25 pm
I'm reading on the forums, how to get a dcn# without going inside usps.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=419.msg2686#msg2686

I was excited when I read this, however when I went to a usps station they told me I couldn't do this (that).  They said I actually have to either go inside to a clerk, or I could get it online @ usps.com

Is there anyone doing it the way it's mentioned in the above link?
How are sellers acquiring tracking numbers without going inside the usps?
Was the clerk just blowing smoke up my a*s?
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: envious on November 07, 2011, 10:35 pm
It may not be the proper way to do it, but it works.
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: godofall2 on November 07, 2011, 10:48 pm
i been doing it that way for some time been working fine. dont know why they will say you need to do in.
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: vanilla on November 08, 2011, 05:25 am
I do this every day and it works *flawlessly* so I dunno WTF that postal clerk was talking about. He likely doesn't either. One thing I have noticed about post office employees are that they are largely incompetent and often just plain rude. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that either he didn't know WTF he was talking about or that he told you the wrong info just to be a dick. O, post office how you have declined over the years.   :(
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: invisibleman_007 on November 08, 2011, 03:13 pm
wow, seriously :o  what a bunch of f**kers.  Well based on the above link  in the first post it describes priority and express mail, but can I assume it doesn't matter if it's first class mail too?  (as long as it's the bubble mailer and not a letter envelope)

I just need to make sure I have enough postage for the first class mail bubble mailer, (6 x 9) AND the postage for the dcn # (70 cents)?

Correct? 
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: vanilla on November 08, 2011, 04:15 pm
Yes you can use them on first class bubble mailers as well. I do this on a regular basis also. Just make sure you have enough postage. It may be worthwhile to take one of your packages to a post office and make sure you have enough postage the first time. (Will likely take about 6 regular stamps.) You could also use the online postage calculator at USPS.com or one of the automated postage machines that they have at many post office locations. Good luck!
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: invisibleman_007 on November 08, 2011, 07:19 pm
Yes you can use them on first class bubble mailers as well. I do this on a regular basis also. Just make sure you have enough postage. It may be worthwhile to take one of your packages to a post office and make sure you have enough postage the first time. (Will likely take about 6 regular stamps.)

I did this.  Came out to be 4 forever stamps. I didn't do the dcn this time, because I wanted to to know for sure how much this type of package would weigh and the actual cost of stamps.  Now that I know, I will add additional stamps for the dcn and drop it at a blue usps bin.  (you CAN drop in the blue bins?)

Thanks vanilla for your info and clearing this up! 
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: benjiboo on November 15, 2011, 04:43 pm
I made an account at the USPS website and print out my postage(It is also cheaper to do it online). I just tape them onto the package and either throw them into a street corner blue mail box or drop them off at the counter at the post office. Very convenient


Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: Variety Jones on November 15, 2011, 05:29 pm
I made an account at the USPS website and print out my postage(It is also cheaper to do it online). I just tape them onto the package and either throw them into a street corner blue mail box or drop them off at the counter at the post office. Very convenient
Dude, you mail illegal items using postage printed with a unique identifier on every parcel?

Really?
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: invisibleman_007 on November 15, 2011, 05:30 pm
I made an account at the USPS website and print out my postage(It is also cheaper to do it online). I just tape them onto the package and either throw them into a street corner blue mail box or drop them off at the counter at the post office. Very convenient

I'm not sure that's the best practice.  Having an account  directly linked to YOU or YOUR computer...  When you make an account they ask you for EVERYTHING.  Phone number, address, E V E R Y T H I N G.  Sure you could give fake information but then they'd still have your ip address.  I think using Tor to make this account makes it even worse.  I am speculating on all of this, maybe someone with more experience  can chime in on this...
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: invisibleman_007 on November 15, 2011, 05:32 pm
I made an account at the USPS website and print out my postage(It is also cheaper to do it online). I just tape them onto the package and either throw them into a street corner blue mail box or drop them off at the counter at the post office. Very convenient
Dude, you mail illegal items using postage printed with a unique identifier on every parcel?

Really?

^^^  this  ^^^
Do you have a link to your seller profile?  I'd like to see if I've purchased from you.  This makes me uncomfortable tbh
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: Mister Dank on November 21, 2011, 04:22 pm
OMG, this is a retarded thread...almost as retarded as the post office worker the OP talked to.

When you go to the post office, there are a bunch of little boxes for different types of postage labels and such. The DCNs are green and white. I grab the entire stack.
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: Limitless on November 23, 2011, 09:35 pm

Oh yeah, and don't write 'Contains illegal contents' on the exterior.

why not?  :P  (jk) lol
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: orbitalics on February 12, 2012, 07:20 am

Oh yeah, and don't write 'Contains illegal contents' on the exterior.

why not?  :P  (jk) lol
lol
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: jtemp102311 on February 12, 2012, 07:36 am
I made an account at the USPS website and print out my postage(It is also cheaper to do it online). I just tape them onto the package and either throw them into a street corner blue mail box or drop them off at the counter at the post office. Very convenient
Dude, you mail illegal items using postage printed with a unique identifier on every parcel?

Really?

^^^  this  ^^^
Do you have a link to your seller profile?  I'd like to see if I've purchased from you.  This makes me uncomfortable tbh

Totally agree.. not cool.
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: masteron on February 12, 2012, 02:26 pm
I made an account at the USPS website and print out my postage(It is also cheaper to do it online). I just tape them onto the package and either throw them into a street corner blue mail box or drop them off at the counter at the post office. Very convenient
Dude, you mail illegal items using postage printed with a unique identifier on every parcel?

Really?

^^^  this  ^^^
Do you have a link to your seller profile?  I'd like to see if I've purchased from you.  This makes me uncomfortable tbh

Totally agree.. not cool.

Its actually not that big of a deal. It has both addresses to and from, because usps won't ship unless you do. So if your shipment is compromised, both parties can be seen, doesn't matter if payment can be shown for the postage. Its all under the guise of security by obscurity. Just have to rely on the primary measures- looking like all other mail, and having good packaging in case the exterior breaks or gets a hole.

There are shipments that don't get through. It could be either the seller ripped off the buyer, unlikely in SR due to the feedback system (plus good sellers!), or the fact that stuff is intercepted. Since we haven't heard of busts due to SR, we have to assume the 1/8'ths and oz's getting intercepted are just "meh" by prosecutors. I have been the recipient of officer discretion and whether or not they're going to procecute the offense.

Best thing is to not have any incriminating evidence. Forensics can scan your hd at the physical level, its just a matter of whether your case is worth it or not. Honestly, 1/8th here and there, and a z isn't making LEO go crazy at wanting to bust this. Channels thriving elsewhere are bigger targets

Its all about the packaging. Just picture a DEA team going through a sorting center and how even 2nd hand smoke touching a parcel could set off a search. Be safe guys
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: Angelology on February 12, 2012, 03:18 pm
I'm reading on the forums, how to get a dcn# without going inside usps.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=419.msg2686#msg2686

I was excited when I read this, however when I went to a usps station they told me I couldn't do this (that).  They said I actually have to either go inside to a clerk, or I could get it online @ usps.com

Is there anyone doing it the way it's mentioned in the above link?
How are sellers acquiring tracking numbers without going inside the usps?
Was the clerk just blowing smoke up my a*s?
He or she is probably new.
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: radium1911 on February 14, 2012, 06:01 am
Stop buying stamps online.

Just go in person to a post office, buy $200 or so worth of forever stamps (won't attract attention.) If you need more than that, go to a few different post offices. Dress nicely - wear at least khakis and a collared shirt so it looks like real business.

Grab a handful of green DCN stickers on the way out.
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: Laughing Man on February 14, 2012, 06:11 am
I made an account at the USPS website and print out my postage(It is also cheaper to do it online). I just tape them onto the package and either throw them into a street corner blue mail box or drop them off at the counter at the post office. Very convenient
Dude, you mail illegal items using postage printed with a unique identifier on every parcel?

Really?

^^^  this  ^^^
Do you have a link to your seller profile?  I'd like to see if I've purchased from you.  This makes me uncomfortable tbh

Totally agree.. not cool.

Its actually not that big of a deal. It has both addresses to and from, because usps won't ship unless you do. So if your shipment is compromised, both parties can be seen, doesn't matter if payment can be shown for the postage. Its all under the guise of security by obscurity. Just have to rely on the primary measures- looking like all other mail, and having good packaging in case the exterior breaks or gets a hole.

There are shipments that don't get through. It could be either the seller ripped off the buyer, unlikely in SR due to the feedback system (plus good sellers!), or the fact that stuff is intercepted. Since we haven't heard of busts due to SR, we have to assume the 1/8'ths and oz's getting intercepted are just "meh" by prosecutors. I have been the recipient of officer discretion and whether or not they're going to procecute the offense.

Best thing is to not have any incriminating evidence. Forensics can scan your hd at the physical level, its just a matter of whether your case is worth it or not. Honestly, 1/8th here and there, and a z isn't making LEO go crazy at wanting to bust this. Channels thriving elsewhere are bigger targets

Its all about the packaging. Just picture a DEA team going through a sorting center and how even 2nd hand smoke touching a parcel could set off a search. Be safe guys
That is fucking retarded. If you ship via printing labels from USPS's online site each DCN/tracking could easily be linked to you no matter what you type as the return address.

And if you use full-disk encryption the feds can 'scan' your HDD at any level they want and can't get shit out of it. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, stop telling people to do unsafe things.
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: ColdFrost on February 14, 2012, 11:58 am
wow some of the things we hear around here huh?
Title: Re: usps dcn #'s you HAVE to go inside?
Post by: sourman on February 14, 2012, 12:39 pm
I made an account at the USPS website and print out my postage(It is also cheaper to do it online). I just tape them onto the package and either throw them into a street corner blue mail box or drop them off at the counter at the post office. Very convenient
Dude, you mail illegal items using postage printed with a unique identifier on every parcel?

Really?

^^^  this  ^^^
Do you have a link to your seller profile?  I'd like to see if I've purchased from you.  This makes me uncomfortable tbh

Totally agree.. not cool.

Its actually not that big of a deal. It has both addresses to and from, because usps won't ship unless you do. So if your shipment is compromised, both parties can be seen, doesn't matter if payment can be shown for the postage. Its all under the guise of security by obscurity. Just have to rely on the primary measures- looking like all other mail, and having good packaging in case the exterior breaks or gets a hole.

There are shipments that don't get through. It could be either the seller ripped off the buyer, unlikely in SR due to the feedback system (plus good sellers!), or the fact that stuff is intercepted. Since we haven't heard of busts due to SR, we have to assume the 1/8'ths and oz's getting intercepted are just "meh" by prosecutors. I have been the recipient of officer discretion and whether or not they're going to procecute the offense.

Best thing is to not have any incriminating evidence. Forensics can scan your hd at the physical level, its just a matter of whether your case is worth it or not. Honestly, 1/8th here and there, and a z isn't making LEO go crazy at wanting to bust this. Channels thriving elsewhere are bigger targets

Its all about the packaging. Just picture a DEA team going through a sorting center and how even 2nd hand smoke touching a parcel could set off a search. Be safe guys
That is fucking retarded. If you ship via printing labels from USPS's online site each DCN/tracking could easily be linked to you no matter what you type as the return address.

And if you use full-disk encryption the feds can 'scan' your HDD at any level they want and can't get shit out of it. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, stop telling people to do unsafe things.

They may not be able to "scan the HDD" to bypass full disk encryption, but they can take out your RAM and scan it for the master key. FDE helps, but only if you're ready to shut the machine down at any second. I'd store all sensitive files in a regular truecrypt container, that way you can leave the computer and simply dismount it to remove the truly sensitive stuff while also adding another passphrase for LE to crack. Make sure to keep the free space on the FDE volume clean as well.

I don't get why anyone would buy postage online to ship illegal shit through the mail. Even if you're using tor, you're still effectively creating a neat electronic trail that shows all the packages you sent, all in one place.