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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: RedDead on August 07, 2011, 09:47 pm
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I'm looking for recommendations to expand my horizons. 8)
I've learned from this forum that E will not have that much effect on me because I'm on a SSRI.
I'm looking for something that:
1. is euphoric
2. will totally fuck me up.
3. you can take alone and not risk a bad trip
Thanks in advance for the advice! :D
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What about methoxetamine? Would that work for someone on SSRIs?
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methoxetamine should work, but don't qoute me on that. I was on SSRI's for awhile, and my research lead me to believe it is really seratonigens you have to worry about either not working or causing seratonin syndrome.
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yeah theyve just stuck me on an ssri (citalopram to be precise) cant say im a big fan, sat here teeth chattering like ive had a phat line of molly but with none of the good parts, and i did read that until i get off the damn things psychs are going to be off the menu (so im feeling i shant be on them long, soon as i spot something i want to try im scrapping the pills) but until then ive been looking into what opiates and benzos will be able to do for me, although i need to be careful with the benzos, fallen foul of them once before (between 7-9 days lost) im just not exactly sure which to go with though, and at the mo supplies in uk to uk form are rather slim, im after ritalin, oxycontin and some alprazolam but not in some absurd amount, just a few of each, pharma1 has amazing prices if i wanted a lot but i really can do without having that many laying around, if theyre there ill eat them.
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From what I've read/experienced with SSRI's, in most cases they aren't worth the long term risk they have the potential to do. I was prescribed them once a long time ago, but since using benzos RESPONSIBLY I have no need for the SSRI. Maybe look into a benzo with very little recreational value? Lorazepam seems to do the trick for many.
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From what I've read/experienced with SSRI's, in most cases they aren't worth the long term risk they have the potential to do. I was prescribed them once a long time ago, but since using benzos RESPONSIBLY I have no need for the SSRI. Maybe look into a benzo with very little recreational value? Lorazepam seems to do the trick for many.
I've had the same experience, over a very long number of years. The shrinks kept saying I needed psychotropic shit and every one of them either made me feel like I was going crazy, made me sick to my stomach, or did absolutely nothing. A few properly placed benzos, or even modest amounts of opiates, and my brain is firing on all dopamine receptors and I'm having a great time every day of my life!
Unless you feel like you are getting real benefits after 2-3 weeks of taking the SSRI's, I'd junk them and just take benzos responsibly. They have a *very* long half-life, so it's easy to get a whopping tolerance. Just make sure you take off at least two days a week, then you'll probably have no problem. :) Good luck Spud! :D
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I take citalopram (SSRI) and clonzapam (benzo). The clonzapam doesn't work for me anymore but the anti depressants do. It works for me however I can't roll which sucks.
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From what I've read/experienced with SSRI's, in most cases they aren't worth the long term risk they have the potential to do. I was prescribed them once a long time ago, but since using benzos RESPONSIBLY I have no need for the SSRI. Maybe look into a benzo with very little recreational value? Lorazepam seems to do the trick for many.
i thought about that heavily during the 3 days i spent between getting the scrit and deciding if i REALLY wanted to go through with it and since feeling the effects over the last 3 days or so im not so sure i made the right move, im finding it somewhat like shrooms that you havent taken enough of, or that annoying sicky twitchy feeling before you start tripping but it stays all day, as for benzos, ive only tried diaz and clonaz, the diaz was some years ago and was good to start but ended up with a lesson learned shall we say, and the clonaz was recently and my first benzo in a few years and it was nice but not i think something i could take at work, i have to move about a lot, cant be bumping into things and such but maybe id just need to get used to them a bit or find the right one, then theres just the problem of not dipping into them unless you need them but i think could handle that part, i learned my lesson, out of interest would a short acting benzo like alprazolam be better or a long acting one like diazepam? not really too keen on going down the loraz route seems a bit stronger than others, i currently have no benzo tolerance at all and really want to avoid a mind wipe
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Loraz is actually less potent than alpraz, and longer lasting. I can take .5mg and work and learn things without any problems. Don't even feel 'messed up', really. Just not anxious anymore.
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I have had this problem pretty much my entire life. There is no point wasting your money on any substance that mainly effects you serotonin, epinephrine, or nor-epinephrine levels. That pretty much rules out coke, ecstasy, many psychedelics, etc.....
Opiates are the only answer i can rely on if i need a bit of stress relief. Other than that, I find if i know that i am going to party a certain day, I will start weaning off my meds a good 3 weeks before. Now as your doctor will tell you, that is highly not recommended due to the possibility of many bad things!
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Know someone on SSRI that takes shrooms with no issues and works fine.
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I take citalopram (SSRI) and clonzapam (benzo). The clonzapam doesn't work for me anymore but the anti depressants do. It works for me however I can't roll which sucks.
I take exactly the same stuff. For me citalopram was a life saver.For those of us who really need it, almost like night and day.
Marijuana is fine with ssri's. Cocaine would work but not gonna make you trip or anything, subtle high. Booze and Coke\adderall is my combo of choice. I don't like psychedelics much though. Can't speak on opiates as I'm one of those rare people who doesn't get any euphoria\high from them, I only take them for pain.
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Dissociative will blow your mind. :D
MXE or Ketamine I suggest.
If it's your first time with Dissociatives I suggest Ketamine because the high is 20 minutes and MXE is 4-5 hours.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Know someone on SSRI that takes shrooms with no issues and works fine.
My girlfriend used to say this about LSD. She tripped 5-6 times and had a great time. Then she stopped taking SSRI's and tripped on the same size dose, same exact batch....
She said it was like night and day. MUCH more powerful and mind-expanding after getting off the SSRI.
I can't imagine it would be much different for mushrooms; your friend, like my girlfriend, might not know what they're missing.
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I take citalopram (SSRI) and clonzapam (benzo). The clonzapam doesn't work for me anymore but the anti depressants do. It works for me however I can't roll which sucks.
I take lexapro, (escitalopram), a patent extension / isomer of celexa. very similar but lexapro has less side effects. try switching. i also take klonopin - the reason it doesn't work anymore is
because you have built tolerance. what is your dosage? it works for me - as i have been taking it for many years but only take a dose in the morning, with my marijuana breakfast.
i try not to destroy my brain with too many hallucinogens as i've done that as a youth. (only been taking SSRI for 2yrs).
occasional DMT will blow your head off, but you HAVE to watch for risk factors involving SS (Serotonin Syndrome).
opiates and marijuana seem to be MOST potentiated by SSRI / Benzo combo for me. risky for SS as well, but opiates just honestly - open me up like a big block in a Shelby Cobra.
it took me a few weeks to get used to SSRI. that i admit was not pleasant, very trippy and confusing.
after that my life changed drastically and is great.
here are the following drugs i've done on SSRI (i've done *everything* but again only been on them for 2y).
-dmt
-shrooms
-fent
-roxi
-thc
-sizzurp (promethazine punch with crushed up roxies MMM!)
-nitrazepam powder
-flunitrazepam powder
-ketamine (blows your fucking face off - see nomad's note)
i'm still here! and i still have that one brain cell tickin after a lickin. lmao
i do not recommend doing cocaine on an SSRI.
back when i did it I was not on them.
smoke weed every day.
~B
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it took me a few weeks to get used to SSRI. that i admit was not pleasant, very trippy and confusing.
when they gave them to me i didnt get a single warning about side effects or anything, just told i was being given an "antidepressant" and the scrit was handed over, pills came in a white box with no leaflet, first day was ok, bit like very low dose shrooms, after that the shakes kicked in, bad, chattering teeth way worse than when im rolling and my legs shaking like hell, did you go through that kind of crap too? eventually i was shaking so bad i didnt take my daily dose after about 5 days as i was genuinely scared that theyd make me have a seizure or something, ive done a lot of drugs in my life and learned well when my body is telling me its had enough of something, those feelings have never failed me before so i stick by them. and youre right lexapro is the same just not in racemic formula they only include the active isomer, it was more to do with patent issues i think as their patent on the racemic ran out (i read a lot about this stuff) im not sure about different levels of side effects though.
oh and on the dmt subject if youre going to do it make sure you go the route of vapeing pure dmt, not changa or aya as its the maoi is the dangerous one to be mixing with the ssri although i believe that the dmt itself has some seretonergic action too but hopefully someone with some real biochemistry knowledge will come in and clear that up, my self taught armchair biochem is by no means anything to go by
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it took me a few weeks to get used to SSRI. that i admit was not pleasant, very trippy and confusing.
when they gave them to me i didnt get a single warning about side effects or anything, just told i was being given an "antidepressant" and the scrit was handed over, pills came in a white box with no leaflet, first day was ok, bit like very low dose shrooms, after that the shakes kicked in, bad, chattering teeth way worse than when im rolling and my legs shaking like hell, did you go through that kind of crap too? eventually i was shaking so bad i didnt take my daily dose after about 5 days as i was genuinely scared that theyd make me have a seizure or something, ive done a lot of drugs in my life and learned well when my body is telling me its had enough of something, those feelings have never failed me before so i stick by them. and youre right lexapro is the same just not in racemic formula they only include the active isomer, it was more to do with patent issues i think as their patent on the racemic ran out (i read a lot about this stuff) im not sure about different levels of side effects though.
oh and on the dmt subject if youre going to do it make sure you go the route of vapeing pure dmt, not changa or aya as its the maoi is the dangerous one to be mixing with the ssri although i believe that the dmt itself has some seretonergic action too but hopefully someone with some real biochemistry knowledge will come in and clear that up, my self taught armchair biochem is by no means anything to go by
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armchair biochem or not -
very informative and very accurate. i was not warned of any "onset side effects" either. doctors are shitbags, we can thank them and big
pharma for doing this. i too - read a lot about it :) never done any DMT other than freebase. the changa / MAOI is dangerous for us folks.
good note to have here on the forums. i did not have chattering of the teeth or legs moving around - just pure confusion and bright colors.
my dose went from 5 to 10 to 20, slowly over the course of 3 months....and I've been on 20/day for a few years now.
do not stop taking this drug. i did it once and my day was so ruined i couldn't understand english! it's a tradeoff - but i can function better
than i ever have in my life. i suffer from so many complications it's just fucking ridiculous. ADD,MDD,GAD,OCD. yet i have my shit well
together. i would not be where i am today otherwise.
the AM regimen™
vitamins, coffee, lexapro, weed, klonopin. if there's an opiate around that's going right up the nose make it a breakfast of champions
ps.
to accurately know this drug, you must become accustomed to the feelings it produces. then you can discern what is and what is not a
side effect. The only remaining, notable effect is for me is anorgasmia....doesn't mean i cant have an orgasm, just takes me longer.
My woman loves that shit. lol!
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see no 5 10 20 for me, it was straight to the 20mg, and i weigh less than 60kg! i wasnt entirely sure but thought well sure the doc knows better than i do surely, it wasnt nice
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see no 5 10 20 for me, it was straight to the 20mg, and i weigh less than 60kg! i wasnt entirely sure but thought well sure the doc knows better than i do surely, it wasnt nice
oh wow....definitely the issue with the teeth chattering and legs. i'm a little over 74kg but i road bike and practice krav maga three times
a week. exercise enhances SRRI activity - something to think about - i find that when i'm cycling i get a much more enhance "runner's
high"
the doc is a bellend! i fired mine a while ago after getting a two year script. all set now
b
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You could always huff paint. I hear you want to go for the gold!
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You could always huff paint. I hear you want to go for the gold!
LOL
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from my experience doctors often have little awareness of the drugs they prescribe and their affects, especially not the withdrawal affects (e.g. ssri's are known to cause suicidal ideation)
benzos have many advantages, sure, but it's also really hard to wean off of them
just look at their adverse affects:
http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/
my two pennies
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Once in the clearnet: http://biopsychiatry.com/index.html Dense reading that requires a lot of back-research to understand. Also, despite the name, look at www.amphetamines.com. There is way more there than you might think at first, just from the name.
“A SSRI can be combined…with a dopaminergic such as methylphenidate”
“…noradrenaline is essential to maintaining drive, vigilance and the capacity for reward. There's a fair bit of evidence that chronically depressive people have dysfunctional and atypical noradrenergic systems…”
All highs come from increased dopamine levels. Some drugs increase production, others block reuptake, others free receptors so they're open only to dopamine. Most do a combination with one action predominating over others. You can do this without interference from the SSRI...but I'm not saying take just anything that is dopaminergic! Only saying that there are plenty of ways to get the dopamine high on a SSRI. For sure there are wrong combinations.
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Why no coke and SSRI's? There is a bluelight thread saying lexapro and calexa are ok.
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I like coke and I'm on an SSRI.
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no reason coke should be a prob at all its a dopaminergic same as benzos, its drugs that release serotonin you need to be mindful of
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Thanks for the thread! I had a really bad experience with rolls and ssri's. Kinda wish I knew this before.
Also, I'm pretty sure all highs do not come from increased dopamine levels. That sounds like an oversimplification.
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I was doing coke when I started SSRIs and it sent me into a manic state for about a month, I didn't realize anything was wrong until years later I read about it online somewhere. I don't do coke anymore, I've been smoking weed for 10 years on SSRIs with no problems.
I just quit my SSRIs about a month ago, partly because they don't seem to help me anymore and I want to try all the LSD's that are for sale on SR. I just bought some 2C-B this weekend and my mind should be flushed of all SSRIs by the time I get it in the mail.
Feb
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I hear that quitting SSRI's feels pretty good.
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^ Lol, nah nah nah. Getting off SSRI's is like any other drug. Its a bitch and you feel like shit if you don't take it during the time you should(My dad takes one every morning or he can't think at all). My dad has been on SSRI for about 2 years and he has done coke, shrooms, drinks, smokes(weed and cig), ketamine, mdma(felt really hungover next day though), mxe, nitrous, roxy, and any other drug that I and my friends get haha. all of these drugs except mdma worked and had no neg. effects :)
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I've been slowly cutting back on my prozac for a month and now I'm not taking any and it sucks. I'm hella moody, I yelled at my poor ole mum today, I'm such a rat bastard. :P I sure hope the lsd I ordered works on my poor fuzzy brain.