Quote from: Kara on December 28, 2011, 03:59 pmThe whole "ban them from doing something illegal in the first place" is a strawman. It's also suggesting that drug dealers are some sort of second class citizen that dont deserve the same protections as a normal businessman. Which is another issue entirely I suppose. It's more like ban them for trying to circumvent the protection for buyers that's already in place and is an integral part of SR, which is currently broken. It's being abused daily since it's so easy to do, taking money away from vendors (which hurts the future of SR itself) and turning off new buyers. I suggest some simple restrictions that any vendor can comply with. A vendor needs to put extra work in at first to earn trust, before asking others to trust them. This is as simple as a DCN or registered mail at the buyers expense, and floating about 1 weeks worth of revenue. By the time you're doing large volume and your escrow funds are at significant risk (BTC swing, ect) you have met the requirements to ask for OOE transactions. Just like any business, even f2f drug sales. You work to build a good name. If you try to scam like that IRL drug trade you'll get beat, robbed, or worse. Especially since it's highly likely it's the same small amount of people repeating the scams over and over.I know many many legit vendors who do not pass out DCNs unless there is an issue because there is ways that LE can do analysis upon them. Say LE places a bunch of orders under different nyms and gets the DCNs for each of these. They can then narrow the time and location down and watch surveillance on these areas at those locations and times. They can establish patterns. Vendor A goes to drop box 1 on Tuesday, box 2 on Wednesday etc... I know you guys don't think about this stuff but trust me we have people in this scene who do think of these things and yeah, its probably overkill for the moment, but eventually LE will get smart and use the traffic camera analysis and other methods to bust people, as they can pretty much automate the entire process with programs or computers. I don't think that even if you threaten to ban them it is gonna stop people from scamming. They will just stay legit for the first month then once they have gained trust scam (like many recent scams have been). Like I said there is no solution. SR is not some God who can protect the innocent users of his website. He can educate them and that obviously he has tried and tried, but if people are gonna be fucking idiots and ignore the warnings on the site then its not his fault.