the-collective.ws is one of the most dead drug forums that is, unless you are only interested in shake N bake meth. bitfool: why dont you bring something intelligent to the table so I can cut you down too? Like maybe a real criticism of my methods? Or would you rather sit back and criticize the IDEA of me? When the very idea of what you are doing gets haters panties in a bunch you know you are doing something right! -Katt Williams