aciddeath: thanks for the pat on the back but in part your uneducated comments are one of the reasons I am not longer interested in discussing this. If I have to go behind everyone on this thread and explain how things are realistically I will never get anything done, having wide open misinformation comments will drive away otherwise interested parties. I sell a source who himself sells the production strain of claviceps paspali which produced 1.5g LSAs/L of broth, has no ergo-peptides which cause human poisoning (only if you swallow it anyway so its s moot point) and does not produce any type of spore, spore germination is required for ergot type fungi to pierce into its host. So no paperwork no crop infections