About SR2 progress..

[hcnoise]

So I have been monitoring the SR2 situation weekly and one thing I noticed is that the updates are way too slow.
One month to implement the feedback system and right now the site has been closed to improve the infrastructure, WHAT?
That should be something that comes naturally if you're coding well and he already needs to improve it? So what he actually did the last month?
I don't want to be too cynical but at the moment seems like he's coding while studying how to do it from books

[Synergy]

Having an opinion is one thing, having an informed opinion is another.

I feel like I am having one of those 'need to breath' before posting moments so I will just leave it at that.

[WickedWords]

I'll handle this in your absence then Synergy - feel free to chip in when you're ready.

@OP: If you think that the only thing being worked on prior to Feedback implementation WAS Feedback then you're a moron.

The team are working on about 15 different things at once. The fact that Feedback was launched after X amount of time, does NOT mean it TOOK X amount of time to implement.

Capiche?

[StringerBell]

Having an opinion is one thing, having an informed opinion is another.

I feel like I am having one of those 'need to breath' before posting moments so I will just leave it at that.

Haha!

+1!

[ChemCat]

+1 @ WickedWords 

These things take time, these things take time to do right......that being said... I'll leave you with these parting words, Patience Grasshopper   


Hugs 


ChemCat


 

[hcnoise]

I'll handle this in your absence then Synergy - feel free to chip in when you're ready.

@OP: If you think that the only thing being worked on prior to Feedback implementation WAS Feedback then you're a moron.

The team are working on about 15 different things at once. The fact that Feedback was launched after X amount of time, does NOT mean it TOOK X amount of time to implement.

Capiche?

I'll handle this in your absence then Synergy - feel free to chip in when you're ready.

@OP: If you think that the only thing being worked on prior to Feedback implementation WAS Feedback then you're a moron.

The team are working on about 15 different things at once. The fact that Feedback was launched after X amount of time, does NOT mean it TOOK X amount of time to implement.

Capiche?

You guys should relax a bit
But if you feel to insult me, feel free to do it I'm happy to give some relief to your frustrations

@WickedWords
Can you list me what has been done in the last 30 days?
Feedbacks are the only thing I noticed when I login in the site and I have no time to read the forum, so enlighten me please

if reading about infrastructure updates after all this time make you feel safe then we have a different point of view

[Synergy]

In the last 30 days the following has been done:

> Built deep web market site from the ground up

If you think that is an easy task please refer to my previous comment re having an informed opinion.

Synergy

[hcnoise]

+1 @ WickedWords 

These things take time, these things take time to do right......that being said... I'll leave you with these parting words, Patience Grasshopper   


Hugs 


ChemCat


 

A good programmer with plenty of time can make a site like SR with all the old implementations in 2 months, you don't even to bother with graphics stuff
Here we are talking about a whole team.. I have patience but I just wondering what they have done last month... Oh right.. they are working on "15 different things at once"

[WickedWords]

You guys should relax a bit
But if you feel to insult me, feel free to do it I'm happy to give some relief to your frustrations
@WickedWords
Can you list me what has been done in the last 30 days?
Feedbacks are the only thing I noticed when I login in the site and I have no time to read the forum, so enlighten me please

I'm not trying to insult you, really I'm not. I'm just surprised that you could possibly have the viewpoint you stated. I'm not going to get into a discussion about it because I'm tired and don't have the motivation to write more than 100 words or so.

@ChemCat - cheers for the hugs, +1 back atcha

[hcnoise]

@WickedWords
My response was mostly for TheBubbleDreamer
I doubt you had that list anyway but no problem
and my viewpoint comes from almost 10 years of programming... I wonder what's yours

@Synergy
I know how much does it takes to make a site from 0, I can even add more time due to the nature of this site but this doesn't change the fact that it was pretty much the same 1 month ago
this doesn't mean I contempt the works they are doing, but don't tell me that a whole team is making the site or they are too busy because it's a bullshit you can say to who doesn't know this type of stuff

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

@hcnoise - since you wish to try and insult my staff I will highlight some of the things you have gone wrong at.

You have not accounted for the traffic this site receives. Indeed try to replicate our traffic on many other hidden services and they simply cut out and also fall victim to traffic analysis attacks. Ours is still functional and we take it offline for upgrades without leaking information. We do not simply install Tor, we have a custom compiled version to suit our needs and right now we are hitting the limits that Tor network can support.

As a programmer you should also be aware of the amount of flaws which can cause security problems. Just a single mishap can cost us the entire database and bitcoin which to law enforcement and hackers around the world is a huge reward and across Tor, the risk is reduced of them ever being caught. We are not some simple startup or web development company, we are the largest online black market in the world and we have knocked back thousands of attacks already not just from wannabe hackers or people with tall claims, but government agencies like the FBI, DEA, NSA and others.

The site is not the same as a month ago. If you were a vendor you would realize this as much has changed on the back end. We also have over 200 mails a day to answer per staff and keeping up with bug reports too. Many vendors have already appreciated that we listen to their requests and implement things to make life easier for them as well as improve their security.


"and my viewpoint comes from almost 10 years of programming... I wonder what's yours"
My viewpoint comes from owning the largest online black market in the world and if media attention is anything to go by, we are already bigger than the last Silk Road. You can be a programmer for 60 years but that doesn't mean you are any good at it or that you'd last a minute creating this place. I am now the most wanted man on the internet, I have every world government after me and I am holding this together with everything I have. Now that is my viewpoint, I wonder what's yours? If you want to try and lecture my staff and users at least make sure you know what you're talking about which in my proven experience here, you do not.

[jakeyblues1987]

damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. he told you

[sputnik]

Kid got served by the boss

[BuckshoT]

[Dingo Ate My Drugs]

So I have been monitoring the SR2 situation weekly and one thing I noticed is that the updates are way too slow.
One month to implement the feedback system and right now the site has been closed to improve the infrastructure, WHAT?
That should be something that comes naturally if you're coding well and he already needs to improve it? So what he actually did the last month?
I don't want to be too cynical but at the moment seems like he's coding while studying how to do it from books

We should be grateful of any website that exists primarily for it's users to buy and sell drugs.
If you think you can do better, go and create your own site and stop complaining.

We could do with additional sites, so go and create your own and tell us about it.
Meanwhile, we will continue to use what we have, which is better than nothing.
Thanks to the creators & mod's on here.

[hcnoise]

@hcnoise - since you wish to try and insult my staff I will highlight some of the things you have gone wrong at.

You have not accounted for the traffic this site receives. Indeed try to replicate our traffic on many other hidden services and they simply cut out and also fall victim to traffic analysis attacks. Ours is still functional and we take it offline for upgrades without leaking information. We do not simply install Tor, we have a custom compiled version to suit our needs and right now we are hitting the limits that Tor network can support.

As a programmer you should also be aware of the amount of flaws which can cause security problems. Just a single mishap can cost us the entire database and bitcoin which to law enforcement and hackers around the world is a huge reward and across Tor, the risk is reduced of them ever being caught. We are not some simple startup or web development company, we are the largest online black market in the world and we have knocked back thousands of attacks already not just from wannabe hackers or people with tall claims, but government agencies like the FBI, DEA, NSA and others.

The site is not the same as a month ago. If you were a vendor you would realize this as much has changed on the back end. We also have over 200 mails a day to answer per staff and keeping up with bug reports too. Many vendors have already appreciated that we listen to their requests and implement things to make life easier for them as well as improve their security.


"and my viewpoint comes from almost 10 years of programming... I wonder what's yours"
My viewpoint comes from owning the largest online black market in the world and if media attention is anything to go by, we are already bigger than the last Silk Road. You can be a programmer for 60 years but that doesn't mean you are any good at it or that you'd last a minute creating this place. I am now the most wanted man on the internet, I have every world government after me and I am holding this together with everything I have. Now that is my viewpoint, I wonder what's yours? If you want to try and lecture my staff and users at least make sure you know what you're talking about which in my proven experience here, you do not.

I didn't expect an answer from the leader, but I appreciate it

Lets make this clear I never insulted your staff, it's not my nature to insult people, especially in interner, I think there isn't anything more cowardly than that. I have criticized and maybe I have been too much provocative but that's because I care and I want to come back on SR, first as a buyer then if things goes smooth as a vendor.

I perfectly understand security issues, thats why reading about infrastructure updates just freaked me out.
I reported the updates I saw during the last month, if there is a page with new "public" features implemented I would like to have that

I admire you because you're getting involved in first person but you will have a good salary to justify that and I think you can agree with me that without your staff you couldn't even start a new SR. If I had someone with 10 years of network security experience next to me I would be much more than a competitor for SR but these are just assumptions based on what I know my abilities are.

Said that, peace. I didn't come here to fight. At the end of the day we all want the same thing

[Synergy]

To be fair hcnoise your comments were insulting and anyone reading your OP will see that but at least you have had the good grace to concede you were wrong even if it did take a  slap down from DPR to bring you to your senses.

[hcnoise]

So I have been monitoring the SR2 situation weekly and one thing I noticed is that the updates are way too slow.
One month to implement the feedback system and right now the site has been closed to improve the infrastructure, WHAT?
That should be something that comes naturally if you're coding well and he already needs to improve it? So what he actually did the last month?
I don't want to be too cynical but at the moment seems like he's coding while studying how to do it from books

We should be grateful of any website that exists primarily for it's users to buy and sell drugs.
If you think you can do better, go and create your own site and stop complaining.

We could do with additional sites, so go and create your own and tell us about it.
Meanwhile, we will continue to use what we have, which is better than nothing.
Thanks to the creators & mod's on here.

being grateful doesn't mean being blind
If I made this topic its because I was concern about security, if I see something I feel suspicious I report it
you are just here to fill the space and adore your leader (special mention to the guy that called me kid lol.), that's why people get scammed like its happened in Sheep.. and No i'm not saying that SR it's trying to scamming us, what I'm saying is that you should keep your mind open to every eventuality

[hcnoise]

To be fair hcnoise your comments were insulting and anyone reading your OP will see that but at least you have had the good grace to concede you were wrong even if it did take a  slap down from DPR to bring you to your senses.

Can you please mention what you think its an insult? if it's the phrase of the books I used "seems"
But could be my fault, english as you probably already noticed its not my mother language but trust me when I say that I don't like to insult

[Synergy]

To be fair hcnoise your comments were insulting and anyone reading your OP will see that but at least you have had the good grace to concede you were wrong even if it did take a  slap down from DPR to bring you to your senses.

Can you please mention what you think its an insult? if it's the phrase of the books I used "seems"
But could be my fault, english as you probably already noticed its not my mother language but trust me when I say that I don't like to insult

Ok since you ask how about this for starters...

So what he actually did the last month?
I don't want to be too cynical but at the moment seems like he's coding while studying how to do it from books

Coding from books? how more insulting do you want to be?

Anyway I have more important work to be doing that responding to this.

As you were

[Tessellated]

A good programmer with plenty of time can make a site like SR with all the old implementations in 2 months, you don't even to bother with graphics stuff
Here we are talking about a whole team.. I have patience but I just wondering what they have done last month... Oh right.. they are working on "15 different things at once"

Good programmers often do in weeks what it takes great progammers months to do.

Would you rather have a jacket that was made in an hour or one the tailor spent days on?

[hcnoise]

@Synergy
If thats an insult I wonder what fuck off is
My intention was as a provocation

@Tessellated
Great programmers already have 50% of the work already done with classes and sometimes they even have custom frameworks

[Tessellated]

@Synergy
If thats an insult I wonder what fuck off is
My intention was as a provocation

@Tessellated
Great programmers already have 50% of the work already done with classes and sometimes they even have custom frameworks

You are confusing the easy half of the job with 50% of the work.

You can tell a programmer has reached a medium level of competence when he/she starts to think tasks are easy. It takes a more accomplished programmer to see the difficulty in doing it correctly.

[jesusofrave]

The site is not the same as a month ago. If you were a vendor you would realize this as much has changed on the back end. We also have over 200 mails a day to answer per staff and keeping up with bug reports too. Many vendors have already appreciated that we listen to their requests and implement things to make life easier for them as well as improve their security.

We can confirm that there have been a number of changes over the last month that have been helpful.

There has also been evidence in many of DPRs posts within the Vendor Roundtable that they are reading through the feature request section of the roundtable. These have not yet been implemented but we have not had experience of the dev team of any other open market site acknowledging any requests at all.

This has been corroborated by the rest of the vendors involved in this discussion.

jor

[CaptainWhiteBeard]

Haha owned!

[hcnoise]

@Tessellated
You can even be a genius but you learn how to do it correctly (aka best way for your needs) with experience.
By the way i'm happy to see big vendors like you and jor

@CaptainWhiteBeard
Good one, you almost reach 500 posts
You should be proud of yours 35 posts per day

[Rocknessie]

Having an opinion is one thing, having an informed opinion is another.

I feel like I am having one of those 'need to breath' before posting moments so I will just leave it at that.

Do not feed the trolls... including with your persona, psychic energy.

Those fuckers will drain the Qi right out of you.

[ProEvo]

Damn you just got burned!

[zaynar]

@hcnoise

--CLEARNET WARNING--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States

[Agent]

The site is not the same as a month ago. If you were a vendor you would realize this as much has changed on the back end. We also have over 200 mails a day to answer per staff and keeping up with bug reports too. Many vendors have already appreciated that we listen to their requests and implement things to make life easier for them as well as improve their security.

We can confirm that there have been a number of changes over the last month that have been helpful.

There has also been evidence in many of DPRs posts within the Vendor Roundtable that they are reading through the feature request section of the roundtable. These have not yet been implemented but we have not had experience of the dev team of any other open market site acknowledging any requests at all.

This has been corroborated by the rest of the vendors involved in this discussion.

jor

I think that is the problem hcnoise is having trouble understanding that just because all of this information that regular users do not see is not yet being put out onto the rest of the forum they will jump to conclusions that the development of SilkRoad is currently idle and just assume nothing is being done behind the scenes.

On another note, seeing DPR's response to hcnoise's post certainly made me chuckle for a while.

[Zuxitol0]

Even if DPR and co are shitty coders (which is very very unlikely) it would not be in their best interest to sit idle.

Every extra day they take to implement a feature is a significant amount of bitcoins lost from their wallet. It's not like they're sitting at home eating hamburgers because doing that would just fuck themselves.

So it is almost certain that they are doing everything they can and even if they are shitty coders insulting them will not make one tenth of a difference. Notice how all the PLEASE GIVE US SUBCAT threads haven't achieved shit? Be patient and be thankful that you can buy drugs over the internet from some of the best, most helpful, and most sincere people in existence.

-Zux

[Zuxitol0]

In other words walk the plank matey

[hcnoise]

The site is not the same as a month ago. If you were a vendor you would realize this as much has changed on the back end. We also have over 200 mails a day to answer per staff and keeping up with bug reports too. Many vendors have already appreciated that we listen to their requests and implement things to make life easier for them as well as improve their security.

We can confirm that there have been a number of changes over the last month that have been helpful.

There has also been evidence in many of DPRs posts within the Vendor Roundtable that they are reading through the feature request section of the roundtable. These have not yet been implemented but we have not had experience of the dev team of any other open market site acknowledging any requests at all.

This has been corroborated by the rest of the vendors involved in this discussion.

jor

I think that is the problem hcnoise is having trouble understanding that just because all of this information that regular users do not see is not yet being put out onto the rest of the forum they will jump to conclusions that the development of SilkRoad is currently idle and just assume nothing is being done behind the scenes.

On another note, seeing DPR's response to hcnoise's post certainly made me chuckle for a while.

you're the only one who tried to understand the reasons that led me to open this topic and I respect that

[Agent]

The site is not the same as a month ago. If you were a vendor you would realize this as much has changed on the back end. We also have over 200 mails a day to answer per staff and keeping up with bug reports too. Many vendors have already appreciated that we listen to their requests and implement things to make life easier for them as well as improve their security.

We can confirm that there have been a number of changes over the last month that have been helpful.

There has also been evidence in many of DPRs posts within the Vendor Roundtable that they are reading through the feature request section of the roundtable. These have not yet been implemented but we have not had experience of the dev team of any other open market site acknowledging any requests at all.

This has been corroborated by the rest of the vendors involved in this discussion.

jor

I think that is the problem hcnoise is having trouble understanding that just because all of this information that regular users do not see is not yet being put out onto the rest of the forum they will jump to conclusions that the development of SilkRoad is currently idle and just assume nothing is being done behind the scenes.

On another note, seeing DPR's response to hcnoise's post certainly made me chuckle for a while.

you're the only one who tried to understand the reasons that led me to open this topic and I respect that

It's understandable, you just need to ask the right questions to get the right answers and try to talk to more people around the forums or marketplace.

[12acrebrow]

Well there we have it...owned.



Now, down to the real order of business...
- Does anyone have any somewhat xenophobic sexual preferences they feel the need to share with us?

Why you call them white when you are refering to american women?

I just stick with europeans
I can't understand this american fetish for asians
no ass, no tits, with strange asymmetrical faces
hmmm no thanks

Peace, 12