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I have found out a personal message to me has been EDITED by silkroad.
Another user sent me a personal message, this was was not encrypted.

This message has since, many days later been edited by silkroad staff.

Some information was removed from the message and been replaced with a "censor message" that this information is not allowed by silkroad.
The information is about a high ranking person from older silkroad who is now working with police to bust old DPR and other silkroad users. (The information is public information and it has been all over the media.)

Soo.. Why the fuck is silkroad accessing, reading and editing my personal messages?

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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2013, 08:05:51 pm »
DPr has stated he has access to messages, and if it is a message that can potentially hurt SR and its not encrypted, I do not see a reason he shouldnt edit it. if the conversation is that private and secretive, you should encrypt.

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Re: Silkroad staff access, read and edit my PERSONAL MESSAGES! What the fuck?!
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2013, 08:11:14 pm »
It was auto deleted. They have said that there is a system in place that does this several times. It happened to me as well, big deal! That's why you use encryption for stuff that you don't want others to see.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2013, 08:12:13 pm »
DPr has stated he has access to messages, and if it is a message that can potentially hurt SR and its not encrypted, I do not see a reason he shouldnt edit it. if the conversation is that private and secretive, you should encrypt.
This message was sent to me, so i could not encrypt it.
This information is public and it can not hurt silkroad, unless this site is a fucking honeypot run by the DEA.
Because the person doxed is a snitch who tried to blackmail DPR, now he is working with police and he probably have a lot of silkroad user information that he stole while he had access.

Silkroad is now very afraid anything is written about this person and i have only seen this link censorship in discussions regarding this specific person or case.
All information is public, it is in the media end everywhere.

The fact that DPR is so afraid of us knowing about this snitch worries me.

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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2013, 08:13:32 pm »
The amount of people complaining about features is amazing...
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2013, 08:13:54 pm »
I am the only member of staff who can access your personal messages and I have not edited any of your messages. Some items however are on the filter in which case you will see a message such as [REDACTED - xxx] where xxx is the reason for it being automatically redacted, there is no "censor message" or edited several days later as it is always done before the information is saved onto the disks. I do not ever aimlessly read through messages, they are only accessed when somebody brings it to my attention.

If you aren't happy with something in the filter then you can message me with the reasons why it shouldn't be there. But to clarify, doxxing any person is not allowed here and I have redacted addresses, ZIP codes and phone numbers.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2013, 08:15:20 pm »
I'm sorry but I don't see what the issue is discussing Nod, ChronicPain and Flush - they're all in the public record at this point.

But then, there seems like a lot of bazooka's being used instead of flyswatters, with whole systems enacted for the purpose of keeping one undesirable out.

EDIT: Oh. If people are posting addresses and phone numbers, I get it.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2013, 08:17:20 pm by PrincesSara »

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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2013, 08:19:34 pm »
I have found out a personal message to me has been EDITED by silkroad.
Another user sent me a personal message, this was was not encrypted.

This message has since, many days later been edited by silkroad staff.

Some information was removed from the message and been replaced with a "censor message" that this information is not allowed by silkroad.
The information is about a high ranking person from older silkroad who is now working with police to bust old DPR and other silkroad users. (The information is public information and it has been all over the media.)

Soo.. Why the fuck is silkroad accessing, reading and editing my personal messages?

I don't see why this is such a big issue that you need to create a thread about it, Unless objective here is spreading FUD.

You are totally free to have a pgp encrypted conversation about anyone you like censorship free and away from prying eyes.
Am I missing something???

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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2013, 08:23:37 pm »
I am the only member of staff who can access your personal messages and I have not edited any of your messages. Some items however are on the filter in which case you will see a message such as [REDACTED - xxx] where xxx is the reason for it being automatically redacted, there is no "censor message" or edited several days later as it is always done before the information is saved onto the disks. I do not ever aimlessly read through messages, they are only accessed when somebody brings it to my attention.

If you aren't happy with something in the filter then you can message me with the reasons why it shouldn't be there. But to clarify, doxxing any person is not allowed here and I have redacted addresses, ZIP codes and phone numbers.

It was edited several days later, because I did get the message from the user and accessed the link that is now gone and replaced by the censor message. "http://[REDACTED - DOXING IS NOT ALLOWED]/"

I know it, it seen it and I can provide both the link that was censored, screenshot of the censored message and thread all this started from so people can see the link is genuine.

As Ross is doxed why is this person who is almost at the same level and in the same case so secret? His information is public, he plead guilty and is now working with police.
He is a public person and his name nor what he have done is secret in any way.
Why do you want to protect him and not for example Ross and so many others who have their names written out in media and linked from this forum?
« Last Edit: November 11, 2013, 08:27:52 pm by blue »

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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2013, 08:26:53 pm »
this is great actually. for the wrong reason but great.

use PGP people.

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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2013, 08:30:41 pm »
I can provide both the link that was censored, screenshot of the censored message and thread all this started from so people can see the link is genuine.
Well? Let's see it then.
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2013, 08:35:10 pm »
These threads just keep popping up.  They all have the same theme. "SR Has no Freedom of speech", "I was deleted for speaking out against SR Admins", "SR are reading my personal messages"

These are all troll threads, trying to turn the community (which I love) against us. Does anyone truly believe DPR has the time  to go through all of your PM's?  Do you think any of us really care what you say in PM?

I cant read them anyway, but I have to read enough on here, I certainly dont have time to go through your PM's.

Don't fall for such a obvious troll attempt.
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2013, 08:35:18 pm »
who cares if dpr can see you messages....news flash...he can see your address too if you dont pgp it....so.........PGP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2013, 08:37:05 pm »
I would guess it the URL that one of Coachella's accounts posted claiming to "expose DPR". It was a cleanet URL that was pretty malicious. Synergy redacted all URLs he posted in that thread for good reason.
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2013, 08:37:46 pm »
who cares if dpr can see you messages....news flash...he can see your address too if you dont pgp it....so.........PGP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly jackey. If you send anything via PM that is senstive, on ANY MARKETPLACE OR FORUM, PGP it.
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2013, 08:45:54 pm »
Those who get blackmailed by vendors will be happy that at least DPR can read messages.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2013, 08:48:57 pm »
Those who get blackmailed by vendors will be happy that at least DPR can read messages.

Those who dont send senstive information clear text wont be worried. DPR in the old forums could read your PM's on the main site and on the forums.

This fact has never been hidden, and is true on all forums as far as I know. Use PGP for sensitive information.
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2013, 08:51:14 pm »
Shut up you pussy, crying I had your avatar...then you change it. Did you realize YOU don't own the copyright? or did DPR tell you top stop being so childish hmmm?

Either way I take it I'm free to have that now? Are you sure I'm not impersonating a mod? idiot.
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2013, 08:55:07 pm »
To me, censorship is never a good practice - no matter what it might currently be limited to.

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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2013, 09:01:03 pm »
Staind - Nothing was censored. We even leave the garbage that JohnTheBapist write stay on the board.
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2013, 09:13:39 pm »
Removing a dox is pretty safe and seems to be in place to protect people, even if only from themselves.
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2013, 09:14:02 pm »
Well now...

I have nothing to do either!

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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2013, 09:19:08 pm »
Well, this escalated quickly.

Hahah yes, yes it did :)
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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2013, 09:26:17 pm »
Message filtering? Awesome.

Add "Western Union" and "Paypal" to the filter list. :p

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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2013, 09:26:46 pm »
Is it just the lack of drugs? Or are there a lot of coachello shills?

Seems to be every day that someone is trying to destabilise the administration? Why would anyone want to do that? I dont see the point?  If you dont like it here, go on BMR, or SMR. They have forums too?

I think the admins are doing a great job and I dont really give a shit if they can or are reading my PM's. I would think they have better things to do. Like get me my marketplace so I can start buying again :)

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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2013, 09:29:01 pm »
and - You have just messaged me asking about your account "blue" so don't then turn out publicly and act like 2 different accounts.
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2013, 09:34:01 pm »
and - You have just messaged me asking about your account "blue" so don't then turn out publicly and act like 2 different accounts.
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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2013, 09:35:24 pm »
Solution=PGP

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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2013, 09:42:11 pm »
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2013, 09:58:08 pm »
Well instead of taking care with site maintenance which is significantly important in those crucial days the Silk road admins and DPR himself have to come down to this thread and explain to you why nobody cares about your massages and to remind your stupid ass to encrypt any  sensitive information !

You are wasting valuable admins time with these silly threads!

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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2013, 10:02:43 pm »
While i first said i thought it was silly that sr would care to set up filters surrounding peoples personal messages (and I do think that's silly, even if i don't think that doxxing is acceptable), because it will just push people off the site and maybe exchanging personal information, I also can't help but think that the whole thing could be avoided if people were using PGP. I do find it odd that a site with these libertarian ideals would go about deciding what's okay to say and what's not okay. But it should come as no surprise that the people administering the site would have the power to see what is on their site.

If i was DPR i'd go back to programming and leave this to the mod's though! :)

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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2013, 10:13:48 pm »
While i first said i thought it was silly that sr would care to set up filters surrounding peoples personal messages (and I do think that's silly, even if i don't think that doxxing is acceptable), because it will just push people off the site and maybe exchanging personal information, I also can't help but think that the whole thing could be avoided if people were using PGP. I do find it odd that a site with these libertarian ideals would go about deciding what's okay to say and what's not okay. But it should come as no surprise that the people administering the site would have the power to see what is on their site.

If i was DPR i'd go back to programming and leave this to the mod's though! :)

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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2013, 12:00:16 am »
Just encrypt anything you do not want the staff to see and move on.  If you cannot be bothered enough to encrypt than it must not be that important/personal.
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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2013, 12:01:01 am »
Can we institute an exception that if Coachella is doxxed on the site it isn't removed?

I know I'll probably get ten negative karmas for this post from each of their accounts but I don't really    don't care. Maybe I should add "policy exception for doxxing coachella" to the feature request section. These posts are a waste of time and flat out annoying.

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« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2013, 12:14:55 am »
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« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2013, 12:32:54 am »
Another day, another Coachella shill, or 2.
Coachella, you are so absolutely pathetic. Do you post here so you don't have to feel like you're all alone with your thoughts? Because they would inevitably turn to focus on you being an absolute failure at life. I wonder how many people in your life have told you what a worthless waste you are, either specifically said that or maybe they're always "too busy" to make time for you. But it's OK, you can always troll SR and reddit, such a worthwhile endeavor, isn't it? When you're registering yet another sock puppet account to agree with yourself, because nobody else will, do you ever pause and just think "wow, this is my life".   Or are you such a shell of a person that it doesn't occur to you anymore? No amount of trolling will ever change how foolish you look. It will never erase that day you were outed as a fraud with irrefutable proof.  That bell can't be unrung no matter how many times you bang your empty skull against it.

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« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2013, 12:40:21 am »
SILK ROAD MODS & DPR CALLED MY HOUSE AND TOLD MY KIDS THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS!!!

When is the horseshit with all this going to stop with people lol. Do some drugs and chillout. :)
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« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2013, 01:09:44 am »
SILK ROAD MODS & DPR CALLED MY HOUSE AND TOLD MY KIDS THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS!!!

When is the horseshit with all this going to stop with people lol. Do some drugs and chillout. :)

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« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2013, 01:11:42 am »
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« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2013, 03:07:50 am »
SILK ROAD MODS & DPR CALLED MY HOUSE AND TOLD MY KIDS THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS!!!

When is the horseshit with all this going to stop with people lol. Do some drugs and chillout. :)

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« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2013, 04:53:31 am »
long story short use PGP
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« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2013, 07:56:56 am »
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« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2013, 08:04:05 am »
I have found out a personal message to me has been EDITED by silkroad.
Another user sent me a personal message, this was was not encrypted.

This message has since, many days later been edited by silkroad staff.

Some information was removed from the message and been replaced with a "censor message" that this information is not allowed by silkroad.
The information is about a high ranking person from older silkroad who is now working with police to bust old DPR and other silkroad users. (The information is public information and it has been all over the media.)

Soo.. Why the fuck is silkroad accessing, reading and editing my personal messages?

I don't see why this is such a big issue that you need to create a thread about it, Unless objective here is spreading FUD.

You are totally free to have a pgp encrypted conversation about anyone you like censorship free and away from prying eyes.
Am I missing something???


I PGP anything i send... xD even if its pointless information the only person i want reading what i type is the person im typing to even if DPR thinks hes gona read them they are encrypted because I dont know who DPR is and my information is sensitive

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« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2013, 02:52:05 pm »
It's bad enough threads like this are taking up Mods and Admin time let alone taking up your own reading all this bullshit.
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« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2013, 03:07:30 pm »
I have found out a personal message to me has been EDITED by silkroad.
Another user sent me a personal message, this was was not encrypted.

This message has since, many days later been edited by silkroad staff.

Some information was removed from the message and been replaced with a "censor message" that this information is not allowed by silkroad.
The information is about a high ranking person from older silkroad who is now working with police to bust old DPR and other silkroad users. (The information is public information and it has been all over the media.)

Soo.. Why the fuck is silkroad accessing, reading and editing my personal messages?

I don't see why this is such a big issue that you need to create a thread about it, Unless objective here is spreading FUD.

You are totally free to have a pgp encrypted conversation about anyone you like censorship free and away from prying eyes.
Am I missing something???


I PGP anything i send... xD even if its pointless information the only person i want reading what i type is the person im typing to even if DPR thinks hes gona read them they are encrypted because I dont know who DPR is and my information is sensitive

Not to mention, when you don't use PGP you also put the recipient at risk and it's a disservice to them with unencrypted info is sitting in their inbox. If they list their PGP key in the forum (look in their profile...), there's a reason. Always use PGP.
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« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2013, 03:12:46 pm »
Personally, I think each forum member's PMs should be open to public viewing.  Maybe then it will be impressed upon some of the users here that you have zero expectation of privacy if you attempt to communicate without taking the steps to personally encrypt your messages.

There are various tutorials in the Security forum which explain in simple steps how to run PGP.  There's even a thread there for you to practice in.  If you can't be arsed to PGP your PMs, then I have zero sympathy for you and actually applaud any editing of your PMs, automated or not.  In this case it was the mods trying to scrub the forum of bad text which violates their rules.  Down the road it may be the feds doing doing man-in-the-middle or impersonation attacks.  We're playing by big boy rules now.
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« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2013, 07:17:14 pm »
Staind - Nothing was censored. We even leave the garbage that JohnTheBapist write stay on the board.

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« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2013, 07:47:46 pm »
Perhaps the OP may want to consider changing the title of this thread to something more accurate like "Silk Road SMF spam filter redacted a private message".

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« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2013, 08:37:53 pm »
I don't know why mods or anyone for that matter keeps responding here. The issue has been responded to by administration and that's that. If you don't like it, use PGP. You should be doing that anyway. This topic should have been closed and if anyone wanted to continue the discussion it could have been done in a new, more appropriately titled thread.

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« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2013, 12:31:03 am »
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